From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 0:37:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173B337B6D8 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 00:37:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20255; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 17:07:03 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 17:07:03 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Art Neilson, WH7N" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000702170703.A18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200007020237.e622bY510740@lerami.lerctr.org> <20000702120324.S18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200007020237.e622bY510740@lerami.lerctr.org> <20000702122418.W18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3.0.6.32.20000701200540.00bab680@pilikia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000701200540.00bab680@pilikia.net> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [moved to -questions] People on -questions: this is the tail end of a thread that went through -stable and ended up without a satisfactory resolution. As I observed there, it might have been more successful on -questions, but Larry has returned the system now, so all we have is a post-mortem. On Saturday, 1 July 2000 at 20:05:40 -1000, Art Neilson, WH7N wrote: > At 12:24 PM 7/2/00 +0930, you wrote: >> >> [ stuff deleted .. ] >> >> Your prerogative. I'm not trying to make black white or any such >> thing, but it seems that you haven't been very thorough in your >> analysis. That in itself isn't an issue, but under the circumstances >> I can't see why you blame one component over another. Lots of people >> are running all kinds of AMD processors, the same speed, slower and >> faster, and most of them work fine. > > Right, I've been running FreeBSD for a couple of years on a Tyan Titan > motherboard with a 200Mhz AMD K6-2 with absolutely zero problems. > I installed 2.2.8 on it originally and now am running 3.5-STABLE. > It's rock solid with FreeBSD and I love it. I don't think there was a K6-2 at 200 MHz. You're probably talking about the original K6. I had one at 233 MHz, which was pushing it for the K6 (it generated about twice the heat of the 200 MHz part), and after putting an appropriate cooling on it, I had no trouble. I wonder if similar considerations apply to the K6-2/550. Anyway, I replaced that with a K6-2 333 MHz, which is still running and has given no problems whatsoever, and I'm writing this on a machine with a K7/750 (Athlon), which seems to have tickled a bug (now worked around) in the APM code, but I haven't had any real problems with it. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 1:56:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D597937BB76 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 01:56:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 30901 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jul 2000 08:56:19 -0000 Received: from pc19f5ad2.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (193.159.90.210) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 2 Jul 2000 08:56:19 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07800 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 10:51:43 +0200 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 10:51:43 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xe in 4.0-S Message-ID: <20000702105143.J5945@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000626195936.G232@parish> <20000626205828.I232@parish> <200006270636.AAA32183@harmony.village.org> <20000627195346.O9883@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000627195346.O9883@speedy.gsinet>; from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 07:53:46PM +0200 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 19:53 +0200, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > > Is there still some work done on the xe driver? I have a > Toshiba satellite (very early model 210cs) which works fine > with a 3x589e and the ep driver. But a Xircom "Power Series > CreditCard Ethernet Adapter" (PS-CE2-10) constantly has > problems detecting and *keeping* the media connection. > > [ ... ] > > Which info can I provide besides 'uname -a' and /v/l/m at > initialization and failure time to surround and kill the > problem? OK, so I sat down and collected some more concrete data. Due to my lack of a "shopping list" this is what I can come up with. Feel free to tell me when something's missing. Sorry for the verbiage, but I already tried to trim it down to the necessary volume. What I get from all of this is: Established connections work flawlessly, I can shove hundreds of MB through them. The feature making ftp this prone to these stallings and errors seems to be that new connections are opened all the time. This fits together with what I experience: DNS lookups, initiating ssh sessions or 'cd /usr/src; make update' are painfully slow and always trigger these artificial pauses. But why do pings work so fine? At the moment the machine is somewhat degraded to a remote terminal and local reference (manpages, handbook) and serves me to get familiar with FreeBSD. Networking is not one of its strengths and development capabilities are a little limited due to space and computing power constraints. :( Maybe when I get a networked file system to work it could reveal its real potential. :) I'm glad and willing to help with whatever is necessary to catch and kill the cause of this problem. Although cvsupping and building a world is a matter of some ten hours on this machine, please tell me what I can do to research this problem -- I can trigger the situation quite easily here. And it's just that I'm new to BSD, but I have some general UNIX knowledge. So I could do quite a few things here when being guided or directed. :> ----- `script` output, edited for brevity ----------------------- Script started on Sun Jul 2 08:20:26 2000 stein# : boot -cv stein# dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Mon Jun 12 21:18:47 CEST 2000 root@stein.gsinet:/usr/src/sys/compile/STEIN Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 119996641 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193148 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method CPU: Pentium/P54C (120.00-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping = 12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x0029f000 - 0x00ff7fff, 13996032 bytes (3417 pages) config> di sio1 config> q FreeBSD Kernel Configuration Utility - Version 1.2 Type "help" for help or "visual" to go to the visual configuration interface (requires MGA/VGA display or serial terminal capable of displaying ANSI graphics). config> ls Device port irq drq iomem iosize unit flags enab fdc0 0x3f0 6 2 0 0 0 0 Yes fd0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes ata0 0x1f0 14 0 0 0 0 0 Yes atkbdc0 0x60 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes atkbd0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 Yes psm0 0 12 0 0 0 0 0 Yes vga0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes sc0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0x80 Yes npx0 0xf0 13 0 0 0 0 0 Yes apm0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes pcic0 0x3e0 10 0 d0000 0 0 0 Yes pcic1 0x3e2 11 0 d4000 0 1 0 No sio0 0x3f8 4 0 0 0 0 0x10 Yes sio1 0x2f8 3 0 0 0 1 0 No sio2 0x3e8 5 0 0 0 2 0 No sio3 0x2e8 9 0 0 0 3 0 No config> q avail memory = 13967360 (13640K bytes) [ ... snip ... snap ... ] apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 [ ... snip ... snap ... ] sc0: fb0, kbd0, terminal emulator: sc (syscons terminal) pcic0: at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 10 on isa0 pcic0: management irq 10 pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 pcic1: not probed (disabled) sio0: irq maps: 0x41 0x51 0x41 0x41 [ ... snip ... snap ... ] ad0s1: type 0x6, start 63, end = 266111, size 266049 : OK pccard: card inserted, slot 1 ad0s2: type 0xa5, start 266112, end = 2653055, size 2386944 : OK start_init: trying /sbin/init xe0: xe: Probing xe0: Got version string (0x15) xe0: Got card ID (0x20) xe0: Card is Ethernet only xe0: Got MAC address (0x22) xe0: Checking for weird CE2 string xe0 at port 0x310-0x317 iomem 0xd0000-0xd0fff irq 9 slot 1 on pccard1 xe0: attach pcic: I/O win 0 flags 17 310-31f xe0: Xircom CE2, bonding version 0x40 xe0: Ethernet address 00:80:c7:c0:77:d7 xe0: BPF listener attached bpf: xe0 attached xe0: media_status xe0: media_change xe0: setmedia xe0: disable_intr xe0: soft_reset xe0: silicon revision = 0 xe0: disable_intr xe0: Selecting 10baseT xe0: Setting LEDs xe0: init xe0: enable_intr xe0: init xe0: enable_intr splash: image decoder found: logo_saver xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card xe0: stop xe0: disable_intr xe0: hard_reset xe0: setmedia xe0: disable_intr xe0: soft_reset xe0: silicon revision = 1 xe0: disable_intr xe0: Selecting 10baseT xe0: Setting LEDs xe0: init xe0: enable_intr xe0: init xe0: enable_intr stein# pccardc dumpcis Code 136 not found Code 136 not found code Unknown ignored Code 137 not found Code 137 not found code Unknown ignored Configuration data for card in slot 1 Tuple #1, code = 0x1 (Common memory descriptor), length = 2 000: 00 ff Common memory device information: Device number 1, type No device, WPS = OFF Speed = No speed, Memory block size = reserved, 32 units Tuple #2, code = 0x17 (Attribute memory descriptor), length = 2 000: 00 ff Attribute memory device information: Device number 1, type No device, WPS = OFF Speed = No speed, Memory block size = reserved, 32 units Tuple #3, code = 0x15 (Version 1 info), length = 79 000: 03 00 58 69 72 63 6f 6d 00 43 72 65 64 69 74 43 010: 61 72 64 20 31 30 42 61 73 65 2d 54 00 50 53 2d 020: 43 45 32 2d 31 30 00 32 2e 31 30 00 00 00 00 00 030: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 040: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff Version = 3.0, Manuf = [Xircom], card vers = [CreditCard 10Base-T] Addit. info = [PS-CE2-10],[2.10] Tuple #4, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 8 000: c0 77 d7 00 00 00 00 00 Tuple #5, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 8 000: 04 06 00 80 c7 c0 77 d7 Tuple #6, code = 0x20 (Manufacturer ID), length = 5 000: 05 01 0b 01 41 PCMCIA ID = 0x105, OEM ID = 0x10b Tuple #7, code = 0x44 (Card init date), length = 4 000: 69 5d 05 23 Tuple #8, code = 0x1a (Configuration map), length = 5 000: 01 01 00 08 03 Reg len = 2, config register addr = 0x800, last config = 0x1 Registers: XX------ Tuple #9, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 22 000: c1 c1 bd 0f 55 45 55 36 e0 17 17 e4 60 00 00 07 010: 70 bc 8e 10 00 20 Config index = 0x1(default) Interface byte = 0xc1 (I/O) +RDY/-BSY active, wait signal supported Vcc pwr: Nominal operating supply voltage: 5 x 1V Minimum operating supply voltage: 4 x 1V Maximum operating supply voltage: 5 x 1V Continuous supply current: 3 x 100mA Wait scale Speed = 1.2 x 10 ms RDY/BSY scale Speed = 1.2 x 10 ms Card decodes 4 address lines, full 8/16 Bit I/O I/O address # 1: block start = 0x0 block length = 0x8 IRQ modes: Level, Pulse IRQs: 2 3 4 5 7 9 10 11 15 Memory space length = 0x10 Max twin cards = 0 Misc attr: (Power down supported) Tuple #10, code = 0x21 (Functional ID), length = 2 000: 06 00 Network/LAN adapter Tuple #11, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 8 000: 04 06 00 80 c7 c0 77 d7 Network node ID: 00 80 c7 c0 77 d7 Tuple #12, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 2 000: 01 02 Network technology: Ethernet Tuple #13, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 5 000: 02 80 96 98 00 Network speed: 10 Mb/sec Tuple #14, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 2 000: 03 00 Network media: Undefined Tuple #15, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 2 000: 03 00 Network media: Undefined Tuple #16, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 2 000: 03 00 Network media: Undefined Tuple #17, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 2 000: 05 00 Network connector: open connector standard Tuple #18, code = 0xff (Terminator), length = 0 2 slots found stein# ifconfig -a lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 xe0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.11.33 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.11.255 ether 00:80:c7:c0:77:d7 media: 10baseT/UTP supported media: autoselect 10base2/BNC 10baseT/UTP stein# netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.11.129 UGSc 0 0 xe0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 192.168.11 link#4 UC 0 0 xe0 => 192.168.11.129 0:60:97:b0:c9:d1 UHLW 1 0 xe0 1190 stein# traceroute -n 192.168.11.129 traceroute to 192.168.11.129 (192.168.11.129), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 192.168.11.129 1.386 ms 0.974 ms 0.960 ms stein# ping -n -c 100 192.168.11.129 PING 192.168.11.129 (192.168.11.129): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.168.11.129: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.697 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.11.129: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.647 ms [ ... snip ... snap ... everything's smooth ... ] 64 bytes from 192.168.11.129: icmp_seq=98 ttl=64 time=0.645 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.11.129: icmp_seq=99 ttl=64 time=0.664 ms --- 192.168.11.129 ping statistics --- 100 packets transmitted, 100 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.632/0.653/0.873/0.025 ms stein# : starting heavy network use on a different console stein# : doing ssh -> screen -> ls -RAlF / stein# netstat -w 1 input (Total) output packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls 32 0 15236 7 0 378 0 31 0 14706 6 0 324 0 21 0 11554 5 0 270 0 28 0 12540 5 0 270 0 13 0 7398 4 0 216 0 42 0 23600 9 0 486 0 29 0 14094 5 0 270 0 20 0 9528 5 0 270 0 12 0 5688 5 0 270 0 3 0 1190 2 0 108 0 28 0 13076 7 0 378 0 30 0 14108 7 0 378 0 27 0 13158 4 0 216 0 23 0 9310 4 0 216 0 4 0 1976 1 0 54 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 33 0 19962 8 0 432 0 19 0 5042 3 0 162 0 23 0 6318 4 0 216 0 input (Total) output packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls 13 0 3978 5 0 270 0 9 0 2640 2 0 108 0 ^C stein# : BUT ftp commands open, ls, get are stalling stein# : transfer rates range from some 700KB/s via 300/400, 70, stein# : down to 4KB/s (due to the timeouts and reneg) stein# : ssh - screen - find ~/Mail -type f -print0 | xargs --null cat stein# date Sun Jul 2 09:03:05 CEST 2000 stein# date Sun Jul 2 09:21:33 CEST 2000 stein# : 'du -s ~/Mail' gives 98KB, which results in 90KB/s stein# : surely due to expensive terminal writes and scrolling stein# : I didn't see stalls in this stein# : stein# : now for ftp again (different console) ... stein# date Sun Jul 2 09:24:20 CEST 2000 stein# date Sun Jul 2 09:31:09 CEST 2000 stein# : transferred 11800KB, giving some 20KB/s with stein# : prompt off and mget * stein# grep xe0 /var/log/messages | grep 'Jul 2' [ this is kernel load time ] Jul 2 08:19:36 stein /kernel: xe0: xe: Probing Jul 2 08:19:36 stein /kernel: xe0: Got version string (0x15) Jul 2 08:19:37 stein /kernel: xe0: Got card ID (0x20) Jul 2 08:19:37 stein /kernel: xe0: Card is Ethernet only Jul 2 08:19:37 stein /kernel: xe0: Got MAC address (0x22) Jul 2 08:19:37 stein /kernel: xe0: Checking for weird CE2 string Jul 2 08:19:37 stein /kernel: xe0 at port 0x310-0x317 iomem 0xd0000-0xd0fff irq 9 slot 1 on pccard1 Jul 2 08:19:37 stein /kernel: xe0: attach Jul 2 08:19:37 stein /kernel: xe0: Xircom CE2, bonding version 0x40 Jul 2 08:19:37 stein /kernel: xe0: Ethernet address 00:80:c7:c0:77:d7 Jul 2 08:19:37 stein /kernel: xe0: BPF listener attached Jul 2 08:19:37 stein /kernel: bpf: xe0 attached Jul 2 08:19:37 stein pccard:xe0: Xircom CreditCard Ethernet inserted Jul 2 08:19:37 stein /kernel: xe0: media_status Jul 2 08:19:38 stein /kernel: xe0: media_change Jul 2 08:19:38 stein /kernel: xe0: setmedia Jul 2 08:19:38 stein /kernel: xe0: disable_intr Jul 2 08:19:38 stein /kernel: xe0: soft_reset Jul 2 08:19:38 stein /kernel: xe0: silicon revision = 0 Jul 2 08:19:38 stein /kernel: xe0: disable_intr Jul 2 08:19:38 stein /kernel: xe0: Selecting 10baseT Jul 2 08:19:38 stein /kernel: xe0: Setting LEDs Jul 2 08:19:39 stein /kernel: xe0: init Jul 2 08:19:39 stein /kernel: xe0: enable_intr Jul 2 08:19:39 stein /kernel: xe0: init Jul 2 08:19:39 stein /kernel: xe0: enable_intr Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: stop Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: disable_intr Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: hard_reset Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: setmedia Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: disable_intr Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: soft_reset Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: silicon revision = 1 Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: disable_intr Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: Selecting 10baseT Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: Setting LEDs Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: init Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: enable_intr Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: init Jul 2 08:19:44 stein /kernel: xe0: enable_intr [ this is an ifconfig -a ] Jul 2 08:27:09 stein /kernel: xe0: media_status [ this is first time ftp session (not explicitely listed above) ] Jul 2 08:30:26 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card Jul 2 08:30:27 stein /kernel: xe0: stop Jul 2 08:30:27 stein /kernel: xe0: disable_intr [ ... see above, always the same cycle ... ] Jul 2 08:30:27 stein /kernel: xe0: init Jul 2 08:30:27 stein /kernel: xe0: enable_intr [ inside ssh - screen I can do whatever I want to! ] [ this is vmstat -i time ] Jul 2 08:46:09 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 08:46:33 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] [ this is another ftp session with 'mget *' ] Jul 2 08:51:56 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 08:52:46 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 08:53:38 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 08:54:18 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 08:55:50 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 08:56:20 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 08:56:40 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 08:57:02 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 08:57:23 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 08:57:51 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 08:58:06 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 08:58:49 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 08:59:17 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 08:59:33 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] [ here I do 'cat $SOME_100_MB_MAIL' w/o problems ] [ and this is ftp again (7 files, some cd and ls) ] Jul 2 09:23:52 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:24:27 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:26:09 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:26:37 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:26:58 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:27:30 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:27:55 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:28:15 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:28:22 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:28:46 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:29:09 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:29:16 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:29:40 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:30:05 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:30:29 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:30:55 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] Jul 2 09:31:16 stein /kernel: xe0: watchdog timeout; resetting card [ ... ] stein# date Sun Jul 2 09:32:21 CEST 2000 stein# exit Script done on Sun Jul 2 09:32:37 2000 ----- `script` output, edited for brevity ----------------------- Oops, I recognize I forgot some things: ----- grep pccard /etc/rc.conf ---------------------------------- /etc/rc.conf:pccard_enable="YES" /etc/rc.conf:pccard_conf="/etc/pccard.conf" /etc/rc.conf:pccard_ifconfig="inet 192.168.11.33 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 10baseT/UTP" ----- grep pccard /etc/rc.conf ---------------------------------- ----- cat /etc/pccard.conf -------------------------------------- # ----- /etc/pccard.conf ---------------------------------------- # copied over from the sample # io 0x310-0x360 irq 9 10 11 15 memory 0xd4000 96k # ----- card descriptions --------------------------------------- # Xircom CreditCard Ethernet 10/100 card "Xircom" "CreditCard 10Base-T" # config 0x1 "xe0" ? config auto "xe0" ? insert logger -t pccard:$device -s Xircom CreditCard Ethernet inserted insert /etc/pccard_ether $device remove logger -t pccard:$device -s Xircom CreditCard Ethernet removed remove /etc/pccard_ether $device delete # ----- E O F --------------------------------------------------- ----- cat /etc/pccard.conf -------------------------------------- virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 4:27:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nottingham.ac.uk (pat.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFE637BBD9 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 04:27:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from psyrawt@nottingham.ac.uk) Received: from gotham.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk ([128.243.40.48] helo=unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk) by nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 138hsq-0001UH-00; Sun, 02 Jul 2000 12:25:57 +0100 Received: from granby ([128.243.40.43] helo=granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk) by unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #2) id 138huF-0004x3-00; Sun, 02 Jul 2000 12:27:23 +0100 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:27:18 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Tulloch X-Sender: psyrawt@granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk To: Ray Kohler Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh and librsaintl In-Reply-To: <20000701191857.A11837@rjk191.rh.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG didn't seem to help any :/ but noticable make depend didn't seem to output anything, I'm suspecting it probably should have output something. anyone have any clues? Cheers Andrew On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Ray Kohler wrote: > On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 11:52:14PM +0100, Andrew Tulloch wrote: > > I just installed freebsd 4.0 on a machine followed by cvsup'ing the > > sources and international secure collection. a make world later and ssh > > (of course) didn't work, reading the instructions with the error I go to > > install librsaintl. However it faisl with the following erroe: > > > > rsa_err.c:77: `RSA_F_RSA_NULL' undeclared here (not in a function) > > rsa_err.c:77: initializer element is not constant > > rsa_err.c:77: (near initialization for `RSA_str_functs[8].error') > > rsa_err.c:115: `RSA_R_INVALID_MESSAGE_LENGTH' undeclared here (not in a > > function) > > rsa_err.c:115: initializer element is not constant > > rsa_err.c:115: (near initialization for `RSA_str_reasons[16].error') > > rsa_err.c:124: `RSA_R_RSA_OPERATIONS_NOT_SUPPORTED' undeclared here (not > > in a function) > > rsa_err.c:124: initializer element is not constant > > rsa_err.c:124: (near initialization for `RSA_str_reasons[25].error') > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/librsaintl. > > I'd appreciate any help, cheers > > You need to do 'make depend' here before make. > > -- > Ray Kohler > FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve > Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a > just man is also a prison. > -- Henry David Thoreau > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 5: 9:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wit401310.student.utwente.nl (wit401310.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C641B37BD1E for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 05:09:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dalroi@wit401310.student.utwente.nl) Received: from wit401310.student.utwente.nl (localhost.student.utwente.nl [127.0.0.1]) by wit401310.student.utwente.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BA71E7E for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 14:09:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 14:09:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Alban Hertroys Subject: man nice(1) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20000702120917.D5BA71E7E@wit401310.student.utwente.nl> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it just me or is the man page for nice in error? It says I have to specify a nice value of (+)20 as "nice -20" and a nice value of -20 as "nice --20". running "nice -20" results in a nice value of -20, though, while "nice --20" says: nice: Badly formed number. Eventually it turned out I had to do "nice +20" ... The man page of renice does state the nice value parameters correctly, which causes a confusing difference between the two commands. This is with a somewhat older 4.0-STABLE. I found this when trying a buildworld "nicely", as my system hottens up a tiny bit to much somewhere (probably my pci viper550 with bad fan) causing spontaneous reboots after a couple of hours. -- Alban Hertroys http://wit401310.student.utwente.nl - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I think, therefore I drink. - Lazarus - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 5:12:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 214.norrgarden.se (214.norrgarden.se [195.100.133.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587CA37BD28; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 05:11:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cj@214.norrgarden.se) Received: from 214.norrgarden.se (cj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 214.norrgarden.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA57456; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 14:11:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cj@214.norrgarden.se) Message-Id: <200007021211.OAA57456@214.norrgarden.se> Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 14:11:45 +0200 (CEST) From: cj@vallcom.net Reply-To: cj@vallcom.net Subject: Problems with XMMS/PCM To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Im using a recent build of 4.0 STABLE, soundblaster 128 PCI card using the following driver: -- FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jun 30 2000 14:10:05 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x6200 irq 11 (1p/1r channels duplex) Perhaps some recent change in pcm is the cause of the problems im experiencing with XMMS? I have tried using the latest port aswell as older versions of XMMS and the problem remains. There's only silence when playing an MP3 aswell as the time progress meter is moving fast forward. Has anyone else experienced this? * Carl Johan Madestrand * * Lord_CJ on IRC * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 7:19:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AF137BBD7 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 07:19:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA28230; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 07:19:16 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda28228; Sun Jul 2 07:19:14 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA04553; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 07:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdSZ4551; Sun Jul 2 07:18:59 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.2/8.9.1) id e62EIww00785; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 07:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007021418.e62EIww00785@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdXIM779; Sun Jul 2 07:18:09 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: Alban Hertroys Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: man nice(1) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 02 Jul 2000 14:09:16 +0200." <20000702120917.D5BA71E7E@wit401310.student.utwente.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 07:18:09 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000702120917.D5BA71E7E@wit401310.student.utwente.nl>, Alban Hertr oys writes: > Is it just me or is the man page for nice in error? > > It says I have to specify a nice value of (+)20 as "nice -20" and a nice > value of -20 as "nice --20". > > running "nice -20" results in a nice value of -20, though, > while "nice --20" says: > nice: Badly formed number. > > Eventually it turned out I had to do "nice +20" ... > The man page of renice does state the nice value parameters correctly, > which causes a confusing difference between the two commands. I see you're a csh user. C Shell has a builtin nice which is incompatible with /usr/bin/nice which is used by the Bourne shell and any of its descendants. The csh nice builtin is documented in the csh(1) man page: nice nice +number nice command nice +number command The first form sets the scheduling priority for this shell to 4. The second form sets the priority to the given number. The final two forms run command at priority 4 and number respectively. The greater the number, the less cpu the process will get. The super-user may specify negative priority by using `nice -number ...'. Command is always executed in a sub-shell, and the restrictions placed on commands in simple if statements apply. If you wish to use the Bourne nice command under csh, you must specify the full path name. Why are Bourne and C Shell nice commands not the same? Well the developers of csh so many years ago chose a different syntax. Should they be the same? To make them the same would break compatibility with all other UNIX systems. If you want to make them the same, put the following in your .cshrc: alias nice /usr/bin/nice > > > This is with a somewhat older 4.0-STABLE. > I found this when trying a buildworld "nicely", as my system hottens up > a tiny bit to much somewhere (probably my pci viper550 with bad fan) > causing spontaneous reboots after a couple of hours. I don't see how the nice command would solve this. It just assigns a different priority to a command and its children causing them to be selected for execution more or less frequently in relationship to other processes running on the system. If you have no higher priority work on the machine, a lower nice value will not make any difference in execution time or the amount of heat produced by your CPU. Replacing the bad fan or reducing your CPU's clock rate will help. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 7:33:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from weeble.dyndns.org (ubppp249-66.dialin.buffalo.edu [128.205.249.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1C837BBD7 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 07:33:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjm2@earthling.net) Received: from shithead (shithead.weeble.dyndns.org [10.0.0.2]) by weeble.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA18909; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 10:33:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjm2@earthling.net) From: "C J Michaels" To: "Alban Hertroys" , Subject: RE: man nice(1) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 10:33:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFE410.BDA24040" Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20000702120917.D5BA71E7E@wit401310.student.utwente.nl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFE410.BDA24040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What shell are you running? Because I know for a fact that tcsh has a build-in nice command with a different syntax than /usr/bin/nice. And the man page is for /usr/bin/nice. Just type "which nice" to determine whether your nice is an internal shell command or an external binary. -- Chris -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Alban Hertroys Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 8:09 AM To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: man nice(1) Is it just me or is the man page for nice in error? It says I have to specify a nice value of (+)20 as "nice -20" and a nice value of -20 as "nice --20". running "nice -20" results in a nice value of -20, though, while "nice --20" says: nice: Badly formed number. Eventually it turned out I had to do "nice +20" ... The man page of renice does state the nice value parameters correctly, which causes a confusing difference between the two commands. This is with a somewhat older 4.0-STABLE. 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Received: from lafontaine.cybercable.fr (lafontaine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC43437BCFA for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 07:44:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@gits.dyndns.org) Received: (qmail 7063699 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2000 14:44:09 -0000 Received: from r224m65.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([195.132.224.65]) (envelope-sender ) by lafontaine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Jul 2000 14:44:09 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA87620; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:44:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root) Posted-Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:44:07 +0200 (CEST) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl and 'make buildworld' for FreeBSD 4.0-Stable References: <20000628153227.A14806@io.com> Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C From: Cyrille Lefevre Date: 02 Jul 2000 16:44:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: Matthew Cerha's message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:32:27 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 69 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Canyonlands" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Cerha writes: > I'm trying to update my 4.0-Release to Stable. I've installed and cvsup'd > the latest sources (as of this morning). However, during the 'make > buildworld' process, the compile craps out while making Perl. I searched the > lists and saw some similar problems posted in 1999, but I never found > a resolution. Any help would be greatly appreciated? Here's a snippet of > problem: > > Writing Makefile for DynaLoader > Warning: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/Config.pm may be out of date > with /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.sh > cd /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl && make lib/Config.pm > `lib/Config.pm' is up to date. > Warning: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.h out of date with /usr/o > bj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.sh > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > Makefile out-of-date with respect to /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/ > Config.pm /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.h > Cleaning current config before rebuilding Makefile... > make -f Makefile.old clean > /dev/null 2>&1 || /bin/sh -c true > perl "-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib" "-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr. > bin/perl/perl/lib" Makefile.PL "INSTALLDIRS=perl" "PERL_SRC=/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu > /usr.bin/perl/perl" "INSTALLMAN3DIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/perl/man3" " > PERL=perl" "FULLPERL=perl" "DEFINE=-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include" "LINKTYP > E=static" "LIBS=-lperl -lm" > Writing Makefile for DynaLoader > ==> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <== > ==> Please rerun the make command. <== > false > *** Error code 1 about 2 weeks ago, I had this problem too, but from stable-to-stable. the only difference w/ before was a make clean. since works was on perl at that time, I guessed the maintainer saw that and corrected that. finally, not. I apology to not say anithing about that. for instance, you can try the following things to bootstrap perl linkage : # cd /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl # rm */config.h */writemain # cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl # for i in *perl; do cd $PWD/$i; make config.h; done then check your config.h files to see something like : #if 42 == 1 using : # cd /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl # for i in *perl; do sed -n '1499p' $i/config.h; done buggy config.h made by buildworld looks like this : #if == 1 I tried to understand why make buildworld != cd perl; make w/o success at all. if that not help on buidworld, try go back to the perl tree and build perl from here before to build the world. # cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl # make Cyrille. -- home:mailto:clefevre@no-spam.citeweb.net Supprimer "no-spam." pour me repondre. work:mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@no-spam.edf.fr Remove "no-spam." to answer me back. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 7:45:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from camus.cybercable.fr (camus.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A05837BCFE for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 07:45:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@gits.dyndns.org) Received: (qmail 6996047 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2000 14:45:41 -0000 Received: from r224m65.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([195.132.224.65]) (envelope-sender ) by camus.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Jul 2000 14:45:41 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA87629; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:45:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root) From: Cyrille Lefevre Posted-Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:45:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200007021445.QAA87629@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: Perl and 'make buildworld' for FreeBSD 4.0-Stable (fwd) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:45:40 +0200 (CEST) Cc: mcerha@io.com, clefevre@citeweb.net Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net Organization: ACME X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL77 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Forwarded message from Cyrille Lefevre ----- From nobody Sun Jul 2 16:44:06 2000 Sender: root@pc166.gits.fr To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl and 'make buildworld' for FreeBSD 4.0-Stable References: <20000628153227.A14806@io.com> Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C From: Cyrille Lefevre Date: 02 Jul 2000 16:44:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: Matthew Cerha's message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:32:27 -0500" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Canyonlands" Lines: 69 Xref: pc166.gits.fr sent-mail:75 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 75 Sun Jul 2 16:44:06 2000 Content-Length: 2762 Matthew Cerha writes: > I'm trying to update my 4.0-Release to Stable. I've installed and cvsup'd > the latest sources (as of this morning). However, during the 'make > buildworld' process, the compile craps out while making Perl. I searched the > lists and saw some similar problems posted in 1999, but I never found > a resolution. Any help would be greatly appreciated? Here's a snippet of > problem: > > Writing Makefile for DynaLoader > Warning: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/Config.pm may be out of date > with /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.sh > cd /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl && make lib/Config.pm > `lib/Config.pm' is up to date. > Warning: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.h out of date with /usr/o > bj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.sh > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > Makefile out-of-date with respect to /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/ > Config.pm /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.h > Cleaning current config before rebuilding Makefile... > make -f Makefile.old clean > /dev/null 2>&1 || /bin/sh -c true > perl "-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib" "-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr. > bin/perl/perl/lib" Makefile.PL "INSTALLDIRS=perl" "PERL_SRC=/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu > /usr.bin/perl/perl" "INSTALLMAN3DIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/perl/man3" " > PERL=perl" "FULLPERL=perl" "DEFINE=-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include" "LINKTYP > E=static" "LIBS=-lperl -lm" > Writing Makefile for DynaLoader > ==> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <== > ==> Please rerun the make command. <== > false > *** Error code 1 about 2 weeks ago, I had this problem too, but from stable-to-stable. the only difference w/ before was a make clean. since works was on perl at that time, I guessed the maintainer saw that and corrected that. finally, not. I apology to not say anithing about that. for instance, you can try the following things to bootstrap perl linkage : # cd /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl # rm */config.h */writemain # cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl # for i in *perl; do cd $PWD/$i; make config.h; done then check your config.h files to see something like : #if 42 == 1 using : # cd /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl # for i in *perl; do sed -n '1499p' $i/config.h; done buggy config.h made by buildworld looks like this : #if == 1 I tried to understand why make buildworld != cd perl; make w/o success at all. if that not help on buidworld, try go back to the perl tree and build perl from here before to build the world. # cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl # make Cyrille. -- home:mailto:clefevre@no-spam.citeweb.net Supprimer "no-spam." pour me repondre. work:mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@no-spam.edf.fr Remove "no-spam." to answer me back. ----- End of forwarded message from Cyrille Lefevre ----- Cordiallement, Regards, Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre 12, Rue de Bizerte 75017 Paris tel/fax: +33 (0)1 45 22 83 85 home: mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net work: mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@edf.fr icq: mailto:17089123@pager.icq.com http://wwp.icq.com/17089123 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 8:29:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B58637BD5C for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 08:29:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p10-dn03kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.232.224.139]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id AAA28106; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:29:16 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <395F5FF4.B2FA7753@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 00:29:56 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Knowles Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , Jens A Nilsson Subject: Re: regcomp(3) acting weird? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad Knowles wrote: > > sps->sps_reg_errno = regcomp(&sps->sps_reg, sps->sps_name, cflags); > if (sps->sps_reg_errno != 0) { This is where you should place some helpful printfs, but your problem isn't here. For one thing... > free(sps); > return NULL; Notice how it frees sps and returns NULL in case of error, so one would never be able to retrieve the error anyway. For another thing, > However, spegla dies while trying to parse it: > > $ /usr/local/bin/spegla -f /usr/local/etc/spegla/interplay.conf > spegla: sps_init: Undefined error: 0 ^ > The section of spegla.c that is calling this routine is: > > /* ARGSUSED */ > static void > add_param_sps(int option, const char *arg, struct cl_sps_que **q) > { > struct sp_skip *sps; > > option = 0; /* quiet gcc */ > if (*q == NULL && ((*q = cl_sps_init()) == NULL)) > e_err(1, "cl_sps_init"); > if ((sps = sps_init(arg)) == NULL) > e_err(1, "sps_init"); ^^^^^^^^^^ > if (sps_error(sps)) > e_errx(1, "sps_init: %s", sps_strerror(sps)); ^ > (void) cl_sps_push(*q, sps); > } See how the error seems not to be a result of sps_init(), but of sps_error(). Could you please post sps_error() and struct sp_sip definition? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.great.underground.bsdconpiracy.org _DES: The Book of Bruce has only one sentence in it, and it says "the actual directives of my cult are left as an exercise for the reader. Good luck." jkh: does it really include the 'good luck' part? EE: OK, I made that part up. EE: I figured it should sound a bit more cheery than how Bruce initially dictated it to me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 8:39:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (mail1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B5937B575; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 08:39:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noway@nohow.demon.co.uk) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 138lqV-0006rE-00; Sun, 02 Jul 2000 16:39:47 +0100 Received: from modem-136.california.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.56.136] helo=nohow.demon.co.uk) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 138lqU-0002ux-00; Sun, 02 Jul 2000 16:39:47 +0100 Received: from localhost (noway@localhost) by nohow.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11107; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 15:43:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from noway@nohow.demon.co.uk) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 15:43:42 +0100 (BST) From: Jose Marques To: cj@vallcom.net Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with XMMS/PCM In-Reply-To: <200007021211.OAA57456@214.norrgarden.se> Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2 Jul 2000 cj@vallcom.net wrote: > There's only silence when playing an MP3 aswell as the time progress > meter is moving fast forward. Has anyone else experienced this? Yes (with a CS423x-PCI soundcard - as reported by dmesg). XMMS 1.0 worked fine but after I deinstalled it and installed the latest XMMS 1.2 the effect you mention started happening. I mostly use x11amp so I didn't look into the problem. -- Jose Marques To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 9:47:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [209.67.240.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DCF37BDB4; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 09:47:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@rentul.net) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA2AA3D32; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53EF5BC2; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:47:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Lutner X-Sender: sean@lowrider.lewman.org To: cj@vallcom.net Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with XMMS/PCM In-Reply-To: <200007021211.OAA57456@214.norrgarden.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have the same setup. 4.0-STABLE (from 4 days ago) and the latest xmms from ports. On Sun, 2 Jul 2000 cj@vallcom.net wrote: > Hi > > Im using a recent build of 4.0 STABLE, soundblaster 128 PCI card using > the following driver: > > -- FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jun 30 2000 14:10:05 > Installed devices: > pcm0: at io 0x6200 irq 11 (1p/1r channels duplex) > > Perhaps some recent change in pcm is the cause of the problems im > experiencing with XMMS? > I have tried using the latest port aswell as older versions of XMMS and > the problem remains. > There's only silence when playing an MP3 aswell as the time progress > meter is moving fast forward. Has anyone else experienced this? > > * Carl Johan Madestrand * > * Lord_CJ on IRC * > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 10:26:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76FC37BDD2 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 10:26:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1EE137F36; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 13:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA59410; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 13:26:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14687.31567.786744.239851@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 13:26:39 -0400 (EDT) To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: sean@rentul.net (Sean Lutner), noway@nohow.demon.co.uk, dgilbert@velocet.ca, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: <200007011939.MAA14540@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <200007011939.MAA14540@freeway.dcfinc.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Chad" == Chad R Larson writes: Chad> And, I should also point out, if I wanted to pay for emergency Chad> support on my FreeBSD systems, I can. Well... I certainly would have been willing to pay for emergency support, but the only support I have heard to be available is BSDI. However, in email conversations with myself, they have as much as said that they're only wanting to support installation or configuration problems, not kernel bugs. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 10:47: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from m08.alpha-net.ne.jp (m08.alpha-net.ne.jp [210.229.64.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5C037BDE4; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 10:46:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k5@cheerful.com) Received: from kyoto-tc012-p129.alpha-net.ne.jp (kyoto-tc012-p129.alpha-net.ne.jp [210.237.118.163]) by m08.alpha-net.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id CAA17181; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 02:44:25 +0900 (JST) Received: from souffle.bogus-local.net (souffle.bogus-local.net [192.168.1.1]) by kyoto-tc012-p129.alpha-net.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329A03D04; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 02:46:37 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 02:46:36 +0900 Message-ID: <867lb44e83.wl@cheerful.com> From: FUJISHIMA Satsuki To: cj@vallcom.net Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with XMMS/PCM In-Reply-To: In your message of "Sun, 2 Jul 2000 14:11:45 +0200 (CEST)" <200007021211.OAA57456@214.norrgarden.se> References: <200007021211.OAA57456@214.norrgarden.se> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) Emacs/20.7 (i386--freebsd) MULE/4.1 (AOI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Sun, 2 Jul 2000 14:11:45 +0200 (CEST), cj@vallcom.net wrote: > There's only silence when playing an MP3 aswell as the time progress > meter is moving fast forward. Has anyone else experienced this? http://www.xmms.org/faq.html#r9 -- FUJISHIMA Satsuki To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 11:49:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailout1-1.nyroc.rr.com (mailout1-0.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1277137B55E for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:49:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dheller1@rochester.rr.com) Received: from rochester.rr.com (d185fc297.rochester.rr.com [24.95.194.151]) by mailout1-1.nyroc.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20543 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 14:48:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <395F8EC1.9E49BCB3@rochester.rr.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 14:49:37 -0400 From: David Heller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 References: <200007020221.e622Lu110181@lerami.lerctr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Larry Rosenman wrote: > > I can't (the AMD K6-2 is back at the computer store), as > I said, that computer now has an Intel P-III 600E in it :-). > > The tech's at IMS did say that AMD did admit to "some problem" with > the K6-2's, so I'm not sure that an earlier FreeBSD will help... > > LER > > [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > > hmm.... > > > > how easy is it to install an earlier 3.x ? (3.0-RELEASE --> 3.2-RELEASE) > > it would be interesting to see if that fixes the problem > > > > unfortunately - i dont have any spare HD's to stick it on - or i would try > > it > > > > i tell you what - this was *REALLY* getting me bugged - i thought i had > > fried the CPU / MB somehow... > > > > G. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Larry Rosenman" > > To: "Greg Work" > > Cc: "Larry Rosenman" ; > > Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 11:19 AM > > Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 > > > > > > > Yup, you're hitting the same ones, and the reason this box > > > is now Intel P-III 600E, Shuttle AV61 MB, 128MB ram (same stick > > > I've been using). > > > > > > I think AMD has an issue in the K6-2 series. > > > > > > I give up. > > > > > > Larry > > > [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > > > > > > > Hey ya Larry > > > > > > > > Just a quick question - *exactly* what was the symptoms of your problem? > > > > > > > > ive just turned a K6-2 300 into a BSD box, and make world fails with > > SIG's > > > > 10, 11 and 12 randomly. I know its not the memory - i have been > > thrashing > > > > that memory for 12 mths now - never skipped a beat. The CPU / > > Motherboard / > > > > Memory used to run BSD in the 2.2.8 - 3.2 days no problems. Now - no > > luck > > > > :( - i get random panics, SIG 10's to 12's and core dumps - > > unfortunately - > > > > i have no idea how to debug them :( > > > > > > > > > > > > FYI - System specs > > > > > > > > AMD K6-2 300 MHz > > > > Jetway 542-B Motherboard (AT) > > > > 64 meg PC-100 > > > > Intel i740 video card > > > > 4.3 gig Maxtor HDD (IDE) > > > > Generic NIC > > > > > > > > G. > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------- > > > > Greg Work > > > > Email: Greg@FatCanary.com.au > > > > -------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Larry Rosenman" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:41 PM > > > > Subject: AMD K6-2 / 550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I'm back... > > > > > Put the AMD K6-2/550 on a ATX board (Shuttle HOT-597), and the > > 128MB > > > > memory. > > > > > > > > > > This power supply supposedly has enough beef to run the K6. > > > > > > > > > > Still have a problem with make world. > > > > > > > > > > HOWEVER, here is the strange part, if I turn SOFTUPDATES on, we can > > make > > > > worlds all day long > > > > > with out an error. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone got a good explanation for this? > > > > > > > > > > Also, the SCSI controller is a AHA-2940, with 1.11 firmware, if that > > makes > > > > a difference. > > > > > > > > > > Larry > > > > > -- > > > > > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > > > > > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org > > > > > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > > > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org > > > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > -- > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message I don't know if this applies but I have a k6-2 400mhz that was getting signal 11's frequently during compiling or cpu extensive functions. And simply adding heat sink compound between cpu and fan solved it. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 13:18:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mordred.cs.ucla.edu (Mordred.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.192.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2D237BE52 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 13:18:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottm@cs.ucla.edu) Received: (from scottm@localhost) by mordred.cs.ucla.edu (8.9.3/UCLACS-5.0) id NAA21335 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 13:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 13:19:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Michel Message-Id: <200007022019.NAA21335@mordred.cs.ucla.edu> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: manifest? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a manifest of what files should be in a 4.x system, excluding ports, so that one can clean up after an upgrade, e.g. delete shared libs that used to belong to older versions of FreeBSD? I know that ports will link older files, but they can always be rebuilt. -scooter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 13:25:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC0537B70B for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 13:25:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CEF137F36 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA74889; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:25:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14687.42282.873585.2561@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:25:14 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a PIII/450 with a venerable Adaptec 2940UW and a Quantum 9G SCSI disk. Recenly, I was generating many crash dumps and was using a serial console (so I was watching them). I came to a point in my debugging where I needed another PCI slot, so I removed the 2940 and loaded an IDE drive with the same build of FreeBSD. I then noticed that the IDE would crashdump somewhere around 10 times faster than the SCSI disk. Why? Can the SCSI speed be improved? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 14:22:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.utfors.se (mail.utfors.se [195.58.103.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6642537B559; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 14:22:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from watchman@ludd.luth.se) Received: from ludd.luth.se (md469245c.utfors.se [212.105.36.92]) by mail.utfors.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA23381; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:21:43 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <395FCF17.C4D835C6@ludd.luth.se> Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 23:24:07 +0000 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Organization: Acne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cj@vallcom.net Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with XMMS/PCM References: <200007021211.OAA57456@214.norrgarden.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! cj@vallcom.net wrote: > There's only silence when playing an MP3 aswell as the time progress > meter is moving fast forward. Has anyone else experienced this? Have you checked the directory where you started xmms from? Chances are that you now have *big* WAV-files there. ;-) What happens is that when xmms can't find an output device, it starts using the "disk writer" device for output, in effect writing a WAV file from the decompressed mp3. During this, the progress meter moves very fast. This happens to me when I forget to enable the device. Make sure you have enabled the pcm in the kernel and also built the devices. After reboot you should find interesting stuff in either dmesg, or by running CAT on /dev/sndstat. For me it looks like: dmesg: sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5 pcm0: on sbc0 unknown0: at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0 unknown1: at port 0x620-0x623 on isa0 sndstat: Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x220 irq 5 drq 1:5 (1p/1r channels duplex) Good luck! -- Cheers! Joachim - Alltid i harmonisk svängning --- FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight --- Joachim Strömbergson ASIC SoC designer, nice to CUTE animals Phone: +46(0)31 - 27 98 47 Web: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~watchman --------------- Spamfodder: regeringen@regeringen.se --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 14:54:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C45437B703 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 14:54:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.136]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 14:55:33 -0700 Message-ID: <395FB9EA.E3115939@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 14:53:46 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) References: <14687.42282.873585.2561@trooper.velocet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Gilbert wrote: > > I have a PIII/450 with a venerable Adaptec 2940UW and a Quantum 9G > SCSI disk. > > Recenly, I was generating many crash dumps and was using a serial > console (so I was watching them). I came to a point in my debugging > where I needed another PCI slot, so I removed the 2940 and loaded an > IDE drive with the same build of FreeBSD. > > I then noticed that the IDE would crashdump somewhere around 10 times > faster than the SCSI disk. > > Why? Can the SCSI speed be improved? It depends on what 2940 and what IDE drive you are talking about. I have a Maxtor UDMA66 that is 20MB/s faster in some situations than my 2940uw with an older IBM drive probably comparable to your Quantum. The IBM benchmark peaks at 8MB/s and has a smaller cache. The random performance of the IBM is many times the Maxtor (10x at least); however, on sequential read/writes the Maxtor really shines. I think that a dump would be comparable to my sequential write situation. It was explained to me that the scsi can schedule random read/writes and the IDE can't. A server needs random read/writes and uses the scsi to its benefit. One of these new lvd controllers and drives (80+MB/s min) would do wonders to your performance during the dump. Kent > > Dave. > > -- > ============================================================================ > |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | > |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | > |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | > =========================================================GLO================ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 15:14:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FBA37B78B for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 15:14:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikegoe@earthlink.net) Received: from localhost (1Cust148.tnt2.montgomery.al.da.uu.net [63.27.156.148]) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA26308 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 15:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007022214.PAA26308@goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net> From: "Michael G." To: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 17:10:01 Reply-To: "Michael G." X-Mailer: Emerald Mail (Evaluation) 1.30 running on FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE Java 1.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: subscribe Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 16:15:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wit401310.student.utwente.nl (wit401310.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42A737B72E for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:15:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dalroi@wit401310.student.utwente.nl) Received: from wit401310.student.utwente.nl (localhost.student.utwente.nl [127.0.0.1]) by wit401310.student.utwente.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23DD1F60; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 01:15:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 01:15:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Alban Hertroys Subject: Re: man nice(1) To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200007021418.e62EIww00785@cwsys.cwsent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20000702231548.B23DD1F60@wit401310.student.utwente.nl> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2 Jul, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > In message <20000702120917.D5BA71E7E@wit401310.student.utwente.nl>, > Alban Hertroys writes: > I see you're a csh user. C Shell has a builtin nice which is > incompatible with /usr/bin/nice which is used by the Bourne shell and > any of its descendants. tcsh, to be exact. I mentioned this problem to a couple of friends this evening, and was pointed to this fact already. Sorry to waste your time with that. >> This is with a somewhat older 4.0-STABLE. >> I found this when trying a buildworld "nicely", as my system hottens up >> a tiny bit to much somewhere (probably my pci viper550 with bad fan) >> causing spontaneous reboots after a couple of hours. > > I don't see how the nice command would solve this. It just assigns a > different priority to a command and its children causing them to be > selected for execution more or less frequently in relationship to other > processes running on the system. If you have no higher priority work > on the machine, a lower nice value will not make any difference in > execution time or the amount of heat produced by your CPU. Replacing > the bad fan or reducing your CPU's clock rate will help. It did help, though, as my average load went from about 2 to 1. A sustained load of 2 for a couple of hours seems to be a problem for my system (which is due for replacement anyway), but a load of one is not a problem as long as my room temperature is around 20 degrees. It may also have helped that I didn't run X during today's buildworld (which succeeded) if the problem is related to my viper550. I realize this is not an optimal situation, but there is no real solution to it until I pinpoint the heat source. I also realize that nice values will only marginally help achieving what I want. I have been toying with the idea to send a kill -STOP to the group leader process every hour or so, and sent a kill -CONT a quarter of an hour later to let things cool down again. This is a bit trickier to achieve, though, as it involves timing when the heat rices too much (depending on the environment temperature) and 'requires' checking the availability of the targetted process to not be spammed by your own cron daemon (This is an old ASUS Pentium T2P4-board without lm chips). -- Alban Hertroys http://wit401310.student.utwente.nl - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The difference between your legs and your bicycle is that when they are in bad shape it is unwise to give your bicycle more training. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 16:39:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4720937B606; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:39:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23715; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:38:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17922; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:38:50 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200007022338.JAA17922@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: John Hay Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, green@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: International Crypto/ssh broked yet again by deletion of rsa_eay.c,v In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 30 Jun 2000 11:42:22 +0200. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 09:38:50 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Just add src-crypto-rsa to your cvsup file. Look in >/usr/src/share/examples/cvsup/secure* to see how. I'm already using cvs-all and cvs-crypto (via update.sh from the cvsup-mirror port). The problem is that sometime between CVSup update begins at 2000-06-26 07:44:17 UTC and CVSup update begins at 2000-06-29 06:43:09 UTC someone repo-deleted rsa_eay.c (not cvs deleted, not moved into Attic, but deleted the whole ,v file). Presumably, this was part of the following commit to ssh.c: ------ revision 1.8 date: 2000/06/27 21:17:25; author: green; state: Exp; lines: +4 -1 MFF: So /this/ is what has made OpenSSH's SSHv2 support never work right! In some cases, limits did not get set to the proper class, but instead always to "default", because not all passwd copies were done to completion. ---------------------------- But secure/lib/Makefile still uses rsa_eay.c (the existence of which triggers the compilation and installation of librsaINTL). This deletion causes librsaINTL to be silently ignored, hence new installations in non-US locations cannot get working SSH and other crypto. Existing installations with existing librsaINTL libraries will probably continue to work for a time, until the library code changes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 17:22: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8EF37B6EA for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 17:22:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: from earth.causticlabs.com (oca-p1-17.hitter.net [207.192.76.17]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F49D9B1C for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:22:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@earth.causticlabs.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RELENG_3 Copyright Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-931503311-962583724=:946" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-931503311-962583724=:946 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII still says: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD shouldn't this be: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 FreeBSD ? ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --0-931503311-962583724=:946 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="copyright.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="copyright.diff" SW5kZXg6IGNvcHlyaWdodC5oDQo9PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09DQpS Q1MgZmlsZTogL2hvbWUvbmN2cy9zcmMvc3lzL3N5cy9jb3B5cmlnaHQuaCx2 DQpyZXRyaWV2aW5nIHJldmlzaW9uIDEuNS4yLjINCmRpZmYgLXUgLXIxLjUu Mi4yIGNvcHlyaWdodC5oDQotLS0gY29weXJpZ2h0LmgJMTk5OS8wOC8yOSAx NjozMjoxMwkxLjUuMi4yDQorKysgY29weXJpZ2h0LmgJMjAwMC8wNy8wMyAw MDoxNDozNw0KQEAgLTMwLDcgKzMwLDcgQEANCiAgIA0KIC8qIEZyZWVCU0Qg Ki8NCiAjZGVmaW5lIENPUFlSSUdIVF9GcmVlQlNEIFwNCi0JIkNvcHlyaWdo dCAoYykgMTk5Mi0xOTk5IEZyZWVCU0QgSW5jLlxuIg0KKwkiQ29weXJpZ2h0 IChjKSAxOTkyLTIwMDAgRnJlZUJTRCBJbmMuXG4iDQogDQogLyogQmVya2Vs ZXkgKi8NCiAjZGVmaW5lIENPUFlSSUdIVF9VQ0IgXA0K --0-931503311-962583724=:946-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 17:34:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F09237B800 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 17:34:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA96292; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:33:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:33:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Cc: jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com, FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: RELENG_3 Copyright In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote: >still says: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD > >shouldn't this be: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 FreeBSD ? It looks like RELENG_3_* still has src/sys/sys/copyright.h,v1.5.2.2 when the branch needs to be updated to v1.10. That's a 30 second CVS operation if someone doesn't mind. This is bad, that means that RELENG_3_5_0_RELEASE was rolled without an updated copyright message. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 17:42:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E29D37BD7F for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 17:42:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B840137F49; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:42:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA97472; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:42:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14687.57741.726207.302060@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:42:53 -0400 (EDT) To: Kent Stewart Cc: David Gilbert , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) In-Reply-To: <395FB9EA.E3115939@3-cities.com> References: <14687.42282.873585.2561@trooper.velocet.net> <395FB9EA.E3115939@3-cities.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Kent" == Kent Stewart writes: >> I then noticed that the IDE would crashdump somewhere around 10 >> times faster than the SCSI disk. >> >> Why? Can the SCSI speed be improved? Kent> It depends on what 2940 and what IDE drive you are talking Kent> about. I have a Maxtor UDMA66 that is 20MB/s faster in some I don't think this explains it at all. It would appear that the SCSI driver is running in some "extra safe" mode, or something. It has 512M to write sequentually to a partition... and the counting on the screen, we're looking at 2 to 3 seconds-per-megabyte (on a drive that delivers write performance of about 10M/s in normal operation). Maybe what I should have said that the ratio of regular operation to dump performance of the ide driver is about 1:1 while it's 10:1 for the SCSI driver... why is this? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 18:51:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBAC37BF07 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 18:51:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.109]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 18:52:59 -0700 Message-ID: <395FF18D.6B47A620@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 18:51:09 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) References: <14687.42282.873585.2561@trooper.velocet.net> <395FB9EA.E3115939@3-cities.com> <14687.57741.726207.302060@trooper.velocet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Gilbert wrote: > > >>>>> "Kent" == Kent Stewart writes: > > >> I then noticed that the IDE would crashdump somewhere around 10 > >> times faster than the SCSI disk. > >> > >> Why? Can the SCSI speed be improved? > > Kent> It depends on what 2940 and what IDE drive you are talking > Kent> about. I have a Maxtor UDMA66 that is 20MB/s faster in some > > I don't think this explains it at all. It would appear that the SCSI > driver is running in some "extra safe" mode, or something. It has > 512M to write sequentually to a partition... and the counting on the > screen, we're looking at 2 to 3 seconds-per-megabyte (on a drive that > delivers write performance of about 10M/s in normal operation). > > Maybe what I should have said that the ratio of regular operation to > dump performance of the ide driver is about 1:1 while it's 10:1 for > the SCSI driver... why is this? I don't have any idea up front. One thing comes to mind and that is does your Quantum come up with "tagged queuing enabled". My IBM has that disabled or more precisely never enabled, which makes it slower and safer. My dmesg shows the drive as da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) da0: 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C) My DCAS drive has tagged queuing disabled at the driver level. You can find out by looking for your drive in /usr/src/sys/cam/cam_xpt.c Beyond that I don't have any idea. People have always told me scsi was faster but I think that is like everything else in computing. There is a time and a place where it may not be. Some of the IBM lvd's were rated at 20MB/s continuous. The rate between the card and the drive was claimed to be much faster. Once you fill the cache you are down to the continuous rate. You will probably have to visit Quantum to find out what your drive is rated at. All of the rates on the Scsi 160's are higher yet. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 20:19:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD3037BF27 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:19:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA18920; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:18:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007030318.UAA18920@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] In-Reply-To: from Alexander Nazarenko at "Jul 2, 0 08:39:47 am" To: sasha@deimos.ldc.net (Alexander Nazarenko) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:18:52 -0700 (MST) Cc: marki@paradise.net.nz, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Alexander Nazarenko wrote: > I think you have ftpd with identd support on local machine, and there > is no identd running on it and kernel compilled with "dropping" rst > packets. Try to turn on identd. Anyone know off the top of their heads the timeout for ident, and for a DNS lookup? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 20:41:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wilson.acpub.duke.edu (wilson.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B3437BECD for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:41:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu (bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu [152.16.67.15]) by wilson.acpub.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Duke-5.0.0) with ESMTP id XAA05848; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:41:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sto@localhost) by bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA27551; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:41:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sto) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:41:18 -0400 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: marki@paradise.net.nz, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] Message-ID: <20000702234118.N65450@stat.Duke.EDU> Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" References: <200007030318.UAA18920@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007030318.UAA18920@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 08:18:52PM -0700 X-Organization: House of Schmutzli X-Kitties: Bitty Maya CJ Keisha Jacob X-Hound: Bob X-OS-OF-Choice: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chad R. Larson stated: : As I recall, Alexander Nazarenko wrote: : > I think you have ftpd with identd support on local machine, and there : > is no identd running on it and kernel compilled with "dropping" rst : > packets. Try to turn on identd. : : Anyone know off the top of their heads the timeout for ident, and : for a DNS lookup? The more I think about this problem, it might prove useful to enable the log-in-vain feature and then maybe we can see if it is a problem with something expecting an identd or similar. Adding log_in_vain="YES" to /etc/rc.conf will keep it across reboots, and running sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.log_in_vain=1 sysctl -w net.inet.udp.log_in_vain=1 will enable it. This is also useful for watching port scans :) Also, another thing that will cause a goodly hang is if you have enabled the blackhole feature on either tcp or udp. Hope any/some of this is helpful. S -- 1--------01---------01--------01--------01--------01--------01--------0 Sean O'Connell sean@stat.Duke.EDU To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 20:42:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF3537BF7D for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:42:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA19070; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:42:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007030342.UAA19070@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: <14687.31567.786744.239851@trooper.velocet.net> from David Gilbert at "Jul 2, 0 01:26:39 pm" To: dgilbert@velocet.ca (David Gilbert) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:42:01 -0700 (MST) Cc: sean@rentul.net, noway@nohow.demon.co.uk, dgilbert@velocet.ca, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > >>>>> "Chad" == Chad R Larson writes: > Chad> And, I should also point out, if I wanted to pay for emergency > Chad> support on my FreeBSD systems, I can. > > Well... I certainly would have been willing to pay for emergency > support, but the only support I have heard to be available is BSDI. > However, in email conversations with myself, they have as much as said > that they're only wanting to support installation or configuration > problems, not kernel bugs. Up until May, you had an additional option through the BSD Mall. And I'm sure there are individual consultants that you can hire. But BSDi offers a host of services, starting at e-mail support with next day response for an annual $500, or phone support with 4 hour response for an annual $750. Seems cheap to me if you've got revenue-generating systems in production. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 20:44:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037D437BF50 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:44:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA19117; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:44:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007030344.UAA19117@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) In-Reply-To: <14687.42282.873585.2561@trooper.velocet.net> from David Gilbert at "Jul 2, 0 04:25:14 pm" To: dgilbert@velocet.ca (David Gilbert) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:44:32 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > I have a PIII/450 with a venerable Adaptec 2940UW and a Quantum 9G > SCSI disk. Oh, man. You're making me feel old. A 2940UW is "venerable"? What's that make my 1540C? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 21: 7:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (www.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7720437B544 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 21:07:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eugen@svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: from svzserv.kemerovo.su (kost.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.82]) by www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25449 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:07:33 +0800 (KRAST) (envelope-from eugen@svzserv.kemerovo.su) Message-ID: <396011BC.FF5BC047@svzserv.kemerovo.su> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 12:08:28 +0800 From: Eugene Grosbein Organization: SVZServ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ipfw add 1000 allow log tcp from any to any 21 gid test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I try to implement access limits to my FTP site for some GID. I use recent FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE, standard ftpd and ipfw. /etc/ftpchroot has a record: @test For some reason, I cannot use non-standard ftp servers like ProFTPd etc. Filtering ftp control connection seems to be enough. But it does not work. When I use rule 'allow log tcp from any to any 21 gid test', it does not match packets. It does, however, when I omit 'gid test'. I make ftp connection from another machine as user test, then 'ps -o rgid,command|grep ftpd' says: 2077 1003 ftpd: my.work.station: test: LIST\r\n (ftpd) It's all right, user test has uid 2077, it's primary group is test(gid 1003). But why packets does not match? Eugene Grosbein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 21:24:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4189537B6DE for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 21:24:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1335A137F4D; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:24:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA16538; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:24:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14688.5490.654644.236764@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:24:18 -0400 (EDT) To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: dgilbert@velocet.ca (David Gilbert), sean@rentul.net, noway@nohow.demon.co.uk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: <200007030342.UAA19070@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <14687.31567.786744.239851@trooper.velocet.net> <200007030342.UAA19070@freeway.dcfinc.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Chad" == Chad R Larson writes: Chad> Up until May, you had an additional option through the BSD Mall. Chad> And I'm sure there are individual consultants that you can hire. Chad> But BSDi offers a host of services, starting at e-mail support Chad> with next day response for an annual $500, or phone support with Chad> 4 hour response for an annual $750. Chad> Seems cheap to me if you've got revenue-generating systems in Chad> production. Right, but I'm saying that it's not what I need. It is a good thing and I am happy to see FreeBSD support coming online, but it wouldn't help me one bit here. Their support page will tell you (and my email conversations with them confirm) that they're going to support you installing and configuring BSD. They'll help you with sendmail and named configurations/problems, etc. This is a long way from kernel bugs. I would like to have a resource that I could pay to find kernel bugs that are biting me. I've solved the last two kernel bugs myself (which was fun in a way), but I'd happily pay money for help in this regard. We need a "guns for hire" page. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 21:25:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E34137B5E6 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 21:25:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F88137F35; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA16626; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:25:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14688.5561.678362.660789@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:25:29 -0400 (EDT) To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: dgilbert@velocet.ca (David Gilbert), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) In-Reply-To: <200007030344.UAA19117@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <14687.42282.873585.2561@trooper.velocet.net> <200007030344.UAA19117@freeway.dcfinc.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Chad" == Chad R Larson writes: Chad> As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: >> I have a PIII/450 with a venerable Adaptec 2940UW and a Quantum 9G >> SCSI disk. Chad> Oh, man. You're making me feel old. A 2940UW is "venerable"? Chad> What's that make my 1540C? Well... it is (as I understand) discontinued product. Several of our new servers have 29160's in them simply 'cause that's all we could get. (although FreeBSD doesn't appear to accept 160 mode yet) DAve. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 21:37:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (www.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C8537B5E6 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 21:37:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eugen@svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: from svzserv.kemerovo.su (kost.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.82]) by www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA31569 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:37:48 +0800 (KRAST) (envelope-from eugen@svzserv.kemerovo.su) Message-ID: <396018D2.DDA4EE38@svzserv.kemerovo.su> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 12:38:42 +0800 From: Eugene Grosbein Organization: SVZServ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ipfw add 1000 allow log tcp from any to any 21 gid test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > 'ps -o rgid,command|grep ftpd' says: > 2077 1003 ftpd: my.work.station: test: LIST\r\n (ftpd) Sorry, command line was: ps -o uid,rgid,command|grep ftpd Eugene Grosbein. P.S. ftpd is compiled with INTERNAL_LS and ~test/etc does not exists. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 22:55:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B0437B797 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 22:55:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA19894; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:55:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:55:24 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: David Gilbert Cc: Kent Stewart , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) Message-ID: <20000702235524.A19820@panzer.kdm.org> References: <14687.42282.873585.2561@trooper.velocet.net> <395FB9EA.E3115939@3-cities.com> <14687.57741.726207.302060@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <14687.57741.726207.302060@trooper.velocet.net>; from dgilbert@velocet.ca on Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 08:42:53PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 20:42:53 -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > >>>>> "Kent" == Kent Stewart writes: > > >> I then noticed that the IDE would crashdump somewhere around 10 > >> times faster than the SCSI disk. > >> > >> Why? Can the SCSI speed be improved? > > Kent> It depends on what 2940 and what IDE drive you are talking > Kent> about. I have a Maxtor UDMA66 that is 20MB/s faster in some > > I don't think this explains it at all. It would appear that the SCSI > driver is running in some "extra safe" mode, or something. It has > 512M to write sequentually to a partition... and the counting on the > screen, we're looking at 2 to 3 seconds-per-megabyte (on a drive that > delivers write performance of about 10M/s in normal operation). > > Maybe what I should have said that the ratio of regular operation to > dump performance of the ide driver is about 1:1 while it's 10:1 for > the SCSI driver... why is this? When the da(4) driver does a dump, it uses the CAM transport layer's polled completion/action facility, xpt_polled_action(). It looks like there is a substantial delay (1ms) in that routine between poll intervals. If you'd like it to go faster, you'll most likely have to ask Justin about it. (i.e., I didn't write it.) Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 23:44: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FBE37B5F5; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:44:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA21420; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:44:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:44:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Andrew Tulloch Cc: Ray Kohler , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh and librsaintl In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, Andrew Tulloch wrote: > didn't seem to help any :/ > but noticable make depend didn't seem to output anything, I'm suspecting > it probably should have output something. make depend doesnt do anything for ports. > anyone have any clues? The port is broken, someone needs to fix it. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 23:57:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from michaelvince.com (CPE-144-132-49-2.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.49.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BA2737B5B8 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:57:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from enews@michaelvince.com) Received: (qmail 594 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2000 06:45:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO purple) (192.168.1.34) by 192.168.1.33 with SMTP; 3 Jul 2000 06:45:42 -0000 Message-ID: <002101bfe4ba$28e4da80$2201a8c0@vic.bigpond.net.au> From: "Michael" To: Subject: kerberos lookups Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:44:38 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I upgraded to 4 stable I also upgraded the etc dir. Now when I ssh into the upgraded machine it always does some kind of weird kerberos DNS lookups I dont run a kerberos server and I just dont want it to try and lookup any more because I cant login until its finished trying to find one. I also noticed that if the dns server is down I cant login at all! any one know what the config is to kill this? I looked all over the place and found some files but nothing I did makes it go away. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 2 23:58:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E4637B881; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:58:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA23204; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:58:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:58:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Andrew Tulloch Cc: Ray Kohler , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh and librsaintl In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > anyone have any clues? > > The port is broken, someone needs to fix it. Actually, having said that it doesnt seem as if the port is broken, at least for me (well, there were two dumb typos in the MASTER_SITES which were my fault, but they won't stop it from building). Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 0: 3:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3D1F37B7D0 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:03:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 3 Jul 2000 08:02:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 08:01:53 +0100 From: David Malone To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: David Gilbert , Kent Stewart , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) Message-ID: <20000703080153.A79804@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <14687.42282.873585.2561@trooper.velocet.net> <395FB9EA.E3115939@3-cities.com> <14687.57741.726207.302060@trooper.velocet.net> <20000702235524.A19820@panzer.kdm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <20000702235524.A19820@panzer.kdm.org>; from ken@kdm.org on Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 11:55:24PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 11:55:24PM -0600, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > When the da(4) driver does a dump, it uses the CAM transport layer's polled > completion/action facility, xpt_polled_action(). > > It looks like there is a substantial delay (1ms) in that routine between > poll intervals. > > If you'd like it to go faster, you'll most likely have to ask Justin about > it. (i.e., I didn't write it.) I asked Justin about this about a year ago. We have a machine with 1GB of ram, which was dieing with NFS panics and taking about 20/30 minutes to dump. It's nothing to do with the delay (I tried reducing it and it went at exactly the same speed). Some drives just don't like been driven in whatever polled mode is used - I don't actually think I've seen any SCSI drives that dump quickly (including various Quantum and Seagate disks) and , but Justin said that he had some which did. I thought about changing the da dump code to write in 64k or bigger chunks to avoid the problem, but never got around to it. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 0:12:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from demos.su (mx.demos.su [194.87.0.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4A737BE16 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:12:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from azher@sinbin.demos.su) Received: from sinbin.demos.su ([194.87.5.31] verified) by demos.su (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 7417863 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 11:13:32 +0400 Received: by sinbin.demos.su id LAA62089; (8.6.12/D) Mon, 3 Jul 2000 11:11:54 +0400 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:58:32 +0400 From: Anatoly Zherdev To: bag@demos.su Subject: NFS Message-ID: <20000524115832.A77539@sinbin.demos.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG á ÎÅ ÐÏÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ ÌÉ ÎÁÍ ÎÁ ÔÁÞËÁÈ ËÌÉÅÎÔÁÈ: -b If an initial attempt to contact the server fails, fork off a child to keep trying the mount in the background. Useful for fstab(5), where the filesystem mount is not critical to multiuser operation. ðÒÁ×ÄÁ ÔÁÍ ÞÅÇÏ ÔÏ ÐÒÏ ÍÕÌØÔÉÀÚÅÒ ÇÏ×ÏÒÉÔÓÑ, ÎÏ ÍÎÅ ËÁÖÅÔÓÑ, ÞÔÏ ÅÓÌÉ ËÌÉÅÎÔÁ × ÂÁÇÒÁÕÎÄ × ÓÌÕÞÁÅ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÍ ÏÔÐÒÁ×ÑÔ ÓÔÒÁÛÎÏÇÏ × ÜÔÏÍ ÎÉ ÞÅÇÏ ÎÅ ÂÕÄÅÔ, ÚÁÔÏ ÔÁÞËÉ ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÚÁÎÉÍÁÀÔÓÑ ÐÒÏÂÒÏÓËÏÊ ËÌÉÅÎÔÏ× É ÐÏÞÔÏÊ (SB) ÂÕÄÕÔ ÓËÏÒÅÅ ×ÓÅÇÏ ÖÉÔØ. /* Zherdev Anatoly, Demos Online. */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 0:23:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC31A37C04B; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:23:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA27343; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:23:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:23:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Gregory Bond Cc: John Hay , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, green@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: International Crypto/ssh broked yet again by deletion of rsa_eay.c,v In-Reply-To: <200007022338.JAA17922@lightning.itga.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Gregory Bond wrote: > >Just add src-crypto-rsa to your cvsup file. Look in > >/usr/src/share/examples/cvsup/secure* to see how. > > I'm already using cvs-all and cvs-crypto (via update.sh from the cvsup-mirror > port). src-crypto-rsa isn't included in either of the above. This change was part of an attempt to unify the freefall and internat crypto repositories, but it had some downsides (namely that it caused the change to apply to all mirrors everywhere, not just those in the US, and so caused international people to experience a sudden loss of rsa_eay.c). This will probably be fixed shortly in some form or another - it's not clear we'll be sticking with a separate src-crypto-rsa collection to hold RSA. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 0:46: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B98037C02B; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:45:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26028; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:45:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11758; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:45:34 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200007030745.RAA11758@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: Kris Kennaway Cc: John Hay , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: International Crypto/ssh broked yet again by deletion of rsa_eay.c,v In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 03 Jul 2000 00:23:31 -0700. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 17:45:34 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I'm already using cvs-all and cvs-crypto (via update.sh from the cvsup-mirr > or > > port). > > src-crypto-rsa isn't included in either of the above. Aarrgghhh!! A _major_ change to the way people need to track -STABLE and not a single message to the -stable list about it!!???!!??? Can someone tell us when this is resolved (one way or the other) and the cvsup-mirror port is updated? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 0:48:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smople.thehub.com.au (smople.thehub.com.au [203.143.240.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893B037BFF1; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:48:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mckay@thehub.com.au) Received: from dungeon.home (bne67.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.67]) by smople.thehub.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA09482; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:48:26 +1000 (EST) Received: from dungeon.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dungeon.home (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13446; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:49:56 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from mckay) Message-Id: <200007030749.RAA13446@dungeon.home> To: Alan Edmonds Cc: mckay@thehub.com.au, Bill Paul , Chris Wasser , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strangeness with 4.0-S Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 17:49:56 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alan Edmonds wrote: >Bill Paul wrote: >> (I'm starting to regret putting them in there in the first place. Here >> I was thinking I was being nice to people by letting them know what the >> driver is doing, and everybody panics the moment they see them.) > >Maybe prefix the warning with "info" or "warning" and/or some >message like "Don't panic!" Also, would it help to see >"increasing TX threshold to %d" in the message? I appreciate Bill's intent here to inform the public, and I usually code the same way. But I've come to the conclusion that it just scares people, and isn't beneficial after the shake out in -current. Still, I have an alternative suggestion to just ripping out the messages. I believe the most useful option would be to make the default to always store and forward, and allow an option (config file option, or some ifconfig command, sysctl, or some such) to enable the start-before-you've-got-the-data method. I don't think any normal user would see the speed difference. No one would see those messages soon after every boot. And best of all, we wouldn't see the connection hang for several seconds each time that message rolled by. It annoyed me so much I hacked my copy to not do any fancy stuff, and just go store and forward. I still get 10MB/s ftp between boxes. I think it's a clear winner. Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 0:57:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEAE37B80A for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:57:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marki@paradise.net.nz) Received: from evileye (203-79-95-76.apx0.paradise.net.nz [203.79.95.76]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e637uxE14358; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:56:59 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <006a01bfe4c4$40db4ca0$0101a8c0@rf.org> From: "Mark Ibell" To: "Sean O'Connell" , "Chad R. Larson" Cc: References: <200007030318.UAA18920@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20000702234118.N65450@stat.Duke.EDU> Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:56:18 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I appreciate all the help folks but in the end restarting 'named' on our broken RH Linux box fixed the problem immediately. Still interesting that nslookup and the like worked though. Cheers, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean O'Connell To: Chad R. Larson Cc: ; Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] > Chad R. Larson stated: > : As I recall, Alexander Nazarenko wrote: > : > I think you have ftpd with identd support on local machine, and there > : > is no identd running on it and kernel compilled with "dropping" rst > : > packets. Try to turn on identd. > : > : Anyone know off the top of their heads the timeout for ident, and > : for a DNS lookup? > > The more I think about this problem, it might prove useful to > enable the log-in-vain feature and then maybe we can see if it > is a problem with something expecting an identd or similar. > > Adding > > log_in_vain="YES" > > to /etc/rc.conf will keep it across reboots, and running > > sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.log_in_vain=1 > sysctl -w net.inet.udp.log_in_vain=1 > > will enable it. This is also useful for watching port scans :) > > Also, another thing that will cause a goodly hang is if you have > enabled the blackhole feature on either tcp or udp. > > Hope any/some of this is helpful. > S > -- > 1--------01---------01--------01--------01--------01--------01--------0 > Sean O'Connell sean@stat.Duke.EDU > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 1:24:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD34537B52E for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 01:24:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id KAA02495; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 10:22:44 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 2380; Mon Jul 3 10:21:43 2000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 10:23:05 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kazutaka YOKOTA , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, support@synaptics.com Subject: FreeBSD-4.0S/psmintr out of sync/Synaptics Touchpad References: <200006090141.KAA27612@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Kazu (and others) I managed to spend some more time on the problems I have with my touchpad this weekend, and can report some progress. I'll summarise the problem, some technical background, and what I have found out so far. The background: after using the touchpad under FreeBSD-4.0 Stable (with either X or with moused) for a short period of time, it would go berserk, and the mouse cursor would jump all over the screen, plus it would seem like random mouse clicks were being issued. There would also be lots of "out of sync" log messages. Synchronisation would sometimes be recovered, but not very easily. Technical background: The touchpad is manufactured by Synaptics, and very good documentation is available from their website. According to them, the touchpad by default should be in "relative mode", in which it is claimed to be 100% PS/2 mouse compatible. It also has an "absolute mode", which is what the MS-Windows driver uses. Absolute mode uses 6-byte packets, while relative mode uses 3-byte packets. Absolute mode is of no further relevance here so I won't discuss it further. The 3-byte PS/2 packet format consists of a status byte, followed by an X-delta byte and Y-delta byte. The status byte has the format: X-overflow Y-overflow X-sign Y-sign Reserved Button3 Button2 Button1 The X and Y sign bits are used together with the two 8-bit deltas to represent the relative motion of the mouse as 9-bit 2's complement numbers. The X and Y overflow bits get set when the displacement overflows the 9-bit range. This very rarely happens, and so for all practical purposes, these bits can be assumed to be zero. The 3 bits representing button presses are set when the respective button is being held down; in the case of the touchpad there are only two buttons and so the Button3 bit is always zero. The Reserved bit is set to 1 for the Synaptics touchpad; in practice this can be used for "legacy multiplexing" of multiple PS/2 devices. Such multiplexing is handled by the keyboard controller. Because of this, the value of the Reserved bit should usually be treated as "unknown". The PS/2 protocol does not frame these 3-byte packets, which is why synchronisation is the biggest single problem in implementing PS/2 drivers. Synchronisation is usually done by examing the first byte read, and trying to ensure that it is in fact a status byte - typically by checking that the overflow bits are not set. This is not a very reliable check, however - it can *eliminate* some non-status bytes as being considered as candidate status bytes, but certainly not all. Early experiments: An earlier experiment of mine involved changing the sync check for the touchpad. I found that on my Compaq Presario 1600 laptop, I could reliably check the Reserved byte (it is always 1); also, I can use the Button3 bit (it is always zero). So I used a synchronisation mask of 0xCC, to test the overflow, reserved and button3 bits. The default in the psm driver is just to check the overflow bits. This helped somewhat, but did not solve the problem. In the course of doing this, I noticed that when the driver discarded a byte because it did not appear to be a status byte, the value was typically zero. I then modified the code to discard zero bytes silently, rather than logging "out-of-sync". Of course, this didn't affect the reliability, it just reduced the noise in the logs. Recent experiments: I removed the code to silently drop zero bytes. I changed the sync check from the usual one in the psm driver, which is: if ((last_sync_value & sync_mask) != (new_sync_value & sync_mask)) { drop new_sync_value; log sync problem; continue; } to the following: if ((new_sync_value & 0xCC) != 0x80)... This may not have made any real difference, but it did allow me to know that I would not try to test against a *bad* last_sync_value. I also changed the code so that after a few hundred sync problems, the driver would start logging all the bytes it read from the mouse. Things were terrible, and I almost immediately started getting all the bytes logged. I then experimented by moving my finger to the right (i.e. significant positive X delta, minimal Y-delta), to the left (significant negative X, minimal Y), up, and down. This allowed me to see something very interesting: after the status byte came the zero byte, followed by the X byte and then the Y byte. So the packet size, as seen by the psm driver, is actually 4-bytes, not 3. I don't know whether this is due to some weird bug in the touchpad, or due to some weird bug in the keyboard controller code. I then kludged the driver code to read 4-byte packets, to check that the first byte matched my sync check above, and that the second byte was zero, and if so, I copy the third byte value to the second byte, and the fourth byte to the third. It's ugly, but this has almost entirely eliminated the out-of-sync messages. Furthermore, when the mouse does lose sync, it now recovers almost immediately. So I think I have solved my problem in practice, but I don't know why the driver is seeing this extra zero byte, and why I am having to do this ugly kludge. In fact, I am thinking of kludging things more, to try to eliminate the remaining sync problems, by restricting the acceptable packets to those with fairly small deltas. Something like: Accept iff ((X-sign==0 && X-delta<0x20) || (X-sign==1 && X-delta>0xD0)) and similarly for Y (treating the deltas as unsigned values in these tests). regards Graham -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 1:26:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from public.bta.net.cn (public.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A352237BE1C for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 01:26:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: from netrinsics.com ([202.108.133.65]) by public.bta.net.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09063 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:22:51 +0800 (GMT) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA96160 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:27:15 +0800 (+0800) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:27:15 +0800 (+0800) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <200007030827.QAA96160@netrinsics.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: International Crypto/ssh broked yet again by deletion of rsa_eay.c,v In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >This will probably be fixed shortly in some form or another - it's not >clear we'll be sticking with a separate src-crypto-rsa collection to hold >RSA. Take your time. I'd prefer not to deal with one set of breakage once you guys figure out a new plan, and then another set of breakage a few months later after the patent expires and the new plan becomes obsolete. Better just to do the breakage all at once. Either way, though, some sort of adequage heads up and survival manual posted on -stable would be helpful. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 1:37:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from org.chem.msu.su (org.chem.msu.su [158.250.32.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBC637B80A for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 01:37:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kostik@org.chem.msu.su) Received: from org.chem.msu.su. (org.chem.msu.su. [158.250.32.94]) by org.chem.msu.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA39609; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:36:02 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:36:02 +0400 (MSD) From: kostik To: Kent Stewart Cc: David Gilbert , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) In-Reply-To: <395FF18D.6B47A620@3-cities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: > > >>>>> "Kent" == Kent Stewart writes: > > > > >> I then noticed that the IDE would crashdump somewhere around 10 > > >> times faster than the SCSI disk. > > >> > > >> Why? Can the SCSI speed be improved? > > > > Kent> It depends on what 2940 and what IDE drive you are talking > > Kent> about. I have a Maxtor UDMA66 that is 20MB/s faster in some > > > > I don't think this explains it at all. It would appear that the SCSI > > driver is running in some "extra safe" mode, or something. It has > > 512M to write sequentually to a partition... and the counting on the > > screen, we're looking at 2 to 3 seconds-per-megabyte (on a drive that > > delivers write performance of about 10M/s in normal operation). > > > > Maybe what I should have said that the ratio of regular operation to > > dump performance of the ide driver is about 1:1 while it's 10:1 for > > the SCSI driver... why is this? > > I don't have any idea up front. One thing comes to mind and that is > does your Quantum come up with "tagged queuing enabled". My IBM has i have the same hdd, ibm dcas-34330W. it is very interesting that "tagged queuing" was enabled for scsi driver while i was working with freebsd-3.0-release and became disabled (or isn't recognised) when i upgrade to freebsd-4.0-release. > that disabled or more precisely never enabled, which makes it slower > and safer. My dmesg shows the drive as > > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) > da0: 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C) > can you explain me this "safeness" please ? WBR, Konstantin Yu. Pasichnichenko E-mail : kostik@org.chem.msu.su FIDO : 2:5020/118.82@fidonet.org p.s. sorry my bad english. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 1:47:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sohara.dyndns.org (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.13.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFAE37BE8D for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 01:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@sohara.dyndns.org) Received: (from steve@localhost) by sohara.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07073; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:55:01 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from steve) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200007020417.e624HFe14937@lerami.lerctr.org> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 09:55:01 +0100 (IST) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, A possibility (only). I have two AMD K6-2 boxes currently both of which work fine. BUT on one of them if I use the loader then I get crashes, unrecoverable disc errors and all sorts of nasty things. Booting straight into the kernel is fine, I can run forever under heavy load. On the other machine I have no problems at all with or without loader. See if not using the loader makes any difference, if so there may be something trackable. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 3: 6:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90F9337B8C0; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 03:06:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 3 Jul 2000 11:05:50 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 11:05:47 +0100 From: David Malone To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Gregory Bond , John Hay , stable@FreeBSD.org, green@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: International Crypto/ssh broked yet again by deletion of rsa_eay.c,v Message-ID: <20000703110547.A81759@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200007022338.JAA17922@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 12:23:31AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 12:23:31AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > src-crypto-rsa isn't included in either of the above. This change was part > of an attempt to unify the freefall and internat crypto repositories, but > it had some downsides (namely that it caused the change to apply to all > mirrors everywhere, not just those in the US, and so caused international > people to experience a sudden loss of rsa_eay.c). I think some people running the mirrors weren't alerted to this. We were cvsupping the secure stuff from cvsup.uk.freebsd.org, and after updating our local config we didn't seem to get a copy of this file. Using the same config file, but cvsupping from cvsup.internat.freebsd.org worked fine. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 5:43:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.uninet.ee (ns.uninet.ee [194.204.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CE737B566; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 05:43:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mauri@inspiral.net) Received: from puu.mbp.ee (parnu-isdn-26.uninet.ee [194.204.43.90]) by ns.uninet.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2AD32580C; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:42:56 +0200 (EET) From: "Lauri Laupmaa" Organization: Inspiral.Net To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:42:14 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: samba and recent 4.0-STABLE problems Cc: ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3960A646.2463.8E530C@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi After making new kernel/world at june 29 I' having problems with samba, nmbd is hanging, domain logons don't work, strange errors. last kernel/system was from may 27 sources and everything worked brilliant. Any ideas? _____ Lauri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 5:43:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from teapot25.domain0.bigpond.com (teapot25.domain0.bigpond.com [139.134.5.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FC9A37C07D for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 05:43:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Greg@fatcanary.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by teapot25.domain0.bigpond.com (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ya398812 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:44:04 +1000 Received: from WYBH-T-005-p-89-157.tmns.net.au ([203.54.89.157]) by mail0.bigpond.com (Claudes-Silly-MailRouter V2.8a 13/24299); 03 Jul 2000 22:44:03 Received: from thefridge (the-fridge.gwork.org.au [192.168.0.2]) by the-toaster.gwork.org.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA00560; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:22:41 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from Greg@FatCanary.com.au) Message-ID: <003e01bfe4ec$2e813e20$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Reply-To: "Greg Work" From: "Greg Work" To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , References: Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:12:42 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey Steve... do you mean loader as in BootEasy (or whatever it is called) or just prior to the "twirling baton" stage? if the latter - how can you bypass it? Cheers G. -------------------------------------- Greg Work Email: Greg@FatCanary.com.au -------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 > Hi, > > A possibility (only). I have two AMD K6-2 boxes currently both of which > work fine. BUT on one of them if I use the loader then I get crashes, > unrecoverable disc errors and all sorts of nasty things. Booting straight into > the kernel is fine, I can run forever under heavy load. On the other machine I > have no problems at all with or without loader. > > See if not using the loader makes any difference, if so there may be > something trackable. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 5:45:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from teapot25.domain0.bigpond.com (teapot25.domain0.bigpond.com [139.134.5.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1427137B835 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 05:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Greg@fatcanary.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by teapot25.domain0.bigpond.com (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ca398868 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:46:19 +1000 Received: from WYBH-T-005-p-89-157.tmns.net.au ([203.54.89.157]) by mail0.bigpond.com (Claudes-Australian-MailRouter V2.8a 13/24841); 03 Jul 2000 22:46:18 Received: from thefridge (the-fridge.gwork.org.au [192.168.0.2]) by the-toaster.gwork.org.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA00566; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:24:56 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from Greg@FatCanary.com.au) Message-ID: <004401bfe4ec$7ef0fa80$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Reply-To: "Greg Work" From: "Greg Work" To: "David Heller" , References: <200007020221.e622Lu110181@lerami.lerctr.org> <395F8EC1.9E49BCB3@rochester.rr.com> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:14:57 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I don't know if this applies but I have a k6-2 400mhz that was getting > signal 11's frequently during compiling or cpu extensive functions. And > simply adding heat sink compound between cpu and fan solved it. > > Dave That easy huh?? hmm...i may have to see if i can scam some thermal grease. (i will bury my head in the sand for a while if this turns out to be the solution :) - im currently using the frag tape that came attached to the bottom of the heatsink ) G. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 6:13: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [212.74.0.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C1C37BC85; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 06:12:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16650; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:12:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 0374D12724; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:14:40 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:14:40 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Nik Clayton Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Conspectus] -stable, week ending 5th June 2000 Message-ID: <20000703141440.H29903@pavilion.net> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Nik Clayton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000617140741.A6749@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000617140741.A6749@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 02:07:41PM +0100 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are we going to see any more of these Nik? Joe ;) On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 02:07:41PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > [ Posting on behalf of Salvo Bartolotta, who did all the hard work. See > http://www.FreeBSD.org/conspectus/index.html for more information. To > contribute, contact doc@FreeBSD.org -- N ] > > FreeBSD-stable Conspectus, week ending 5th June 2000 > > Dates # Posts Subject > May 31 - June 01 3 3.5 Release date > May 30 - May 30 1 Announce: -stable commit lists > June 01 - June 01 1 HEADS UP: Data corruption bug in Vinum > found and fixed > June 01 - June 01 2 smbfs for FreeBSD 3.4 > June 03 - June 05 5 PCCARD support > June 04 - June 05 2 3dfx driver > June 02 - June 04 5 3.4-STABLE -> 4.0-RELEASE upgrade: > unable to mount root partition > June 02 - June 02 2 Reboots on Alpha System running 4.0 Stable > June 05 - June 05 1 Spontaneous reboot with STABLE SMP kernel > May 30 - June 01 18 GENERIC 4.0 kernel compile fails on in_cksum.c > May 30 - June 05 3 Make world fails on latest 2.2.8... > June 05- June 05 1 FATAL FS Mount bug in -STABLE and -RELEASE > May 31 - May 31 1 Finally....A solution, It would appear > May 30 - May 31 6 -jn and -STABLE world > May 29 - May 30 9 4.0-stable, OpenSSH v1 & v2 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > May 31 - June 01 (3 posts): 3.5 Release date > > On May 31, 2000, [Jordan K. Hubbard] announced to the -stable community a > possible date for the release of FreeBSD-3.5: June 20. > > On the same day, [James Housley] reminded the -stable forum that CTM did > not still work as it should: > > I have a PR that I think should be resolved before the release: http:// > www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18058 > > Description: > > src/usr.sbin/ctm/ctm/ctm_input.c limits files to 10Meg (10485760). > cvs-cur.6200xEmpty.gz has a file, src/sys/dev/isp/asm_pci.h,v that is > greather than 11Meg, actually 11913588 bytes. > > [Vivek Khera], replying to Jordan's letter, remarked: > > I was just investigating the NIS server on 3.4-STABLE, and noticed that > the docs claim that TCP wrappers are not compiled in by default since > they are not shipped with FreeBSD... However, that is no longer the > case. > > Can we get this security updgrade included in the next release? All > that seems to be necessary is to define YP_WRAPPER in the Makefile and > link to the libwrap that is part of the system now. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > May 30 - May 30 (1 posts): Announce: -stable commit lists > > On May 30, 2000, [David Miller] made this proclamation: > > I've setup freebsd-stable-3 and freebsd-stable-4 majordomo lists at > sparks.net. These use procmail to filter the RELENG_[3|4] messages out > of cvs-all, so one can easily tell which commits affect them. > > Anyone could use procmail to filter the list himself, but I thought > this was more convenient, especially for those not set up with > procmail. > > To subscribe, send an email to freebsd-stable-[3|4]-request@sparks.net. > Digest versions are setup as well. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > June 01 - June 01 (1 posts): HEADS UP: Data corruption bug in Vinum found > and fixed > > On June 1, 2000, [Greg Lehey] promulgated the following important result: > > I've just discovered (and fixed) a serious data corruption bug in > Vinum. Under certain circumstances, serious data corruption can result: > > 1. You are using RAID-4 or RAID-5 plexes. > 2. One of these plexes (not the first plex in the system, whether a > RAID-[45] plex or not) develops parity problems. > 3. You correct these errors with the 'rebuildparity' command. > > Under these circumstances, the corrected blocks will probably be > written to the wrong subdisk. The original parity errors will remain. > > The fix is in 4-STABLE and 5-CURRENT (revisions 1.22.2.1 and 1.29, > respectively). I don't think that 3-STABLE currently supports the > rebuildparity command, but I shall check and MFC if necessary. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > June 01 - June 01 (2 posts): smbfs for FreeBSD 3.4 > > On June 1, 2000, [Boris Popov] broadcast some good news: > > Native smbfs for FreeBSD now supports version 3.4 of this OS (it may > also run on 3.2 or 3.3, but definitely 'll crash on 3.1). > > Please note, that FreeBSD 3.4 doesn't contain src/sys/crypto directory > which is required if you want to use encrypted passwords. You have to > pull this directory from either FreeBSD 4.0 or -current (collection > src-sys-crypto). > > The tarball is available at ftp://ftp.butya.kz/pub/smbfs/smbfs.tar.gz > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > June 03 - June 05 (5 posts): PCCARD support > > On June 3, 2000, [Archie Cobbs] sent a new entry for pccard.conf (PreMax > PE-200 Ethernet card) as well as his woes in upgrading his laptop to > -STABLE. > > [Warner Losh] replied that he would add that entry to pccard.conf, and that > he would also document a few minor points; the next day [Mitsuru Iwasaki] > MFC'ed the relevant code -- as had been agreed -- but ahead of schedule. > > As an aside, Archie was able to solve all of his problems thanks to the > suggestions from the mailing lists. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > June 04 - June 05 (2 posts): 3dfx driver > > On June 4, 2000, [Coleman Kane] made this announcement: > > I have finished the 3dfx driver for FreeBSD finally. What should I do > with it now, the tarball would be a little big to stick on the list I > assume. It is basically a device driver that can be compiled as a kld > or static kernel driver, and another module that is loaded after the > linux module to facilitate the linux ioctl interface (which requires > drivers to register their own ioctls for linux). Anyway, is there > someone in charge of taking care of this sort of thing, or some > testers? > > The software is found at http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~cokane/. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > June 02 - June 04 (5 posts): 3.4-STABLE -> 4.0-RELEASE upgrade: unable to > mount root partition > > [Bharat Mediratta] met with some difficulties while trying to upgrade from > 3.4-S to 4.0-R. The cause turned out to be "bad 144". > > He was told that bad 144 tables were no longer supported under 4.0 - as is > well-known - and that there were no tools to deal with them on his updated > machine. After searching the 'Net, Bharat, thanks to [David Babler]'s > indications, came to the following conclusions: > > When I installed FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE on my machine there was no > indication that bad144 (bad sector forwarding) was not a good idea. > Support for bad144 went away in 4.0, so if you are using it in 3.4 this > will get in the way of upgrading. After you reinstall the kernel and > reboot it will not let you remounte your root partition and will give > you an error message like this: > wd0: bad sector table not supported > wd0s1: bad sector table not supported > > So here are some common questions and answers: > > Q: How do I tell if my drive has bad144 on it, BEFORE I try to upgrade > to FreeBSD 4.0 and have it fail on me? > > A: Use the disklabel utility. 'disklabel -r wd0' (replace wd0 with your > drive device) will give you the contents of your disk label. For > example: > # /dev/rwd0c: > type: ESDI > disk: wd0s1 > label: > flags: badsect <--- NOTE! > bytes/sector: 512 > sectors/track: 63 > > Q: How do I remove bad144? > > A: The easiest way to do this is to use disklabel. You can dump the > current label out to disk and then reload it, or you can just edit it > in place with 'disklabel -e -r wd0'. All you have to do is remove > 'badsect' from the flags line and you're all set. This won't affect any > of your data. bad144 is probably still taking up some space on your > disk but it is no longer in effect. > > Bharat has also sent the following PR: docs/19010: bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 > is undocumented; fix is undocumented. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > June 02 - June 02 (2 posts): Reboots on Alpha System running 4.0 Stable > > After updating a Digital AlphaServer 400 4/233 from 4.0-R to 4.0-S, > [Sparhawk] saw some reboots: fatal kernel trap, memory management fault > (trap entry=0x02). An opennap napster server had been running on the > machine. > > [Kevin M. Dultzo] had the same experience on a PC164 500MHz running > (underclocked) at 466MHz > > The problem is currently under investigation. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > June 05 - June 05 (1 posts): Spontaneous reboot with STABLE SMP kernel > > [Fritz Heinrichmeyer] encountered other spontaneous reboots on his SMP > server. He promised that he would send a detailed PR as soon as he found > the time. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > May 30 - June 01 (18 posts): GENERIC 4.0 kernel compile fails on in_cksum.c > > [Bharat Meditatta] could not upgrade from 3.4-S to 4.0-S because the kernel > build had died with an in_cksum.c-related error code 1. > > He was advised to proceed in two steps -- 4.0-R, 4.0-S -- in order to avoid > any potential problems. However, [Warner Losh] pointed out that the -STABLE > update path (3.4-S --> 4.0-S) would still be considered as safe unless > there was actual evidence against it. Other people as well as Warner had in > fact succeeded in performing the above-mentioned upgrading operation a few > days before -- [Guido van Rooij] had done that even from 3.1 albeit this > required a suitable (but not difficult) sequence of actions. In the end, > Warner agreed to slightly modify the UPDATING file so that it would contain > a more reliable method. > > As is (should be) well-known, the UPDATING file to be considered is the new > one downloaded via e.g. cvsup. > > Here is Warner's upgrading scheme outlined in his own words: > > make buildworld > > cd /usr/src/sys/modules > make install > cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod > make install > [1] > reboot > > Rather than the current order, since I know that this works. It also > puts the system in an inconsistant state for a shorter period of time > since the modules are installed just after the kernel, rather than > before the build of the kernel starts. > > Comments? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > May 30 - June 05 (3 posts): Make world fails on latest 2.2.8... > > The problem should have been solved by now. The cause was one of [Josef > Karthauser]'s; commits; which change was withdrawn by [Kris Kenneway]. > > Actually, Josef had not yet received the relevant letters (email problems); > he was going to analyze the whole matter in the next few days. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > June 05 - June 05 (1 posts): FATAL FS Mount bug in -STABLE and -RELEASE > > On June 5, 2000, [Troy Arie Cobb] reported that -STABLE and -RELEASE were > affected by a dangerous NFS bug: > > I've found a fatal filesystem mount bug in both 4.0-STABLE and > 4.0-RELEASE, tested on the 20000604 snapshot of 4.0. > > With both the GENERIC kernel and a custom kernel, the system hangs > tight when more than about 256 filesystems are mounted. I've tested > this with loopback NFS mounts, remote NFS mounts, and local NULL > mounts. The machine freezes, responds to pings and changing of virtual > console, but accepts no input. No errors are written to /var/log or > console. A hard reset is the only way out, CTRL-ALT-DEL doesn't work. > > The next day, he added that the bug did not concern 3.4-STABLE. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > May 31 - May 31 (1 posts): Finally....A solution, It would appear > > [Larry Rosenman] had found a number of errors while making the world in the > previous few days; on which errors he had reported in several other > threads. Eventually, the trouble turned out to be due to bad hardware. > > After such an experience, it seems that his vendor is going to utilize > FreeBSD & "make world" in order to test hardware reliability ... > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > May 30 - May 31 (6 posts): -jn and -STABLE world > > The question was asked whether the -jn option could be reliably employed to > make installworld. It seems that it is not the case. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > May 29 - May 30 (9 posts): 4.0-stable, OpenSSH v1 & v2 > > [Kenneth W. Cochran] asked whether/when OpennSSH v2 would go into -STABLE, > and what exactly he should do in order to enable v2 and to turn off v1. > > [Kris Kennaway] answered that OpenSSH v2 would soon be integrated into > -STABLE; he also confirmed that the right way to disable OpenSSH v1 is to > uncomment the NO_OPENSSH line in /etc/make.conf; finally, he stated that > the corresponding port would disappear as soon as they ceased supporting > FreeBSD 3.x in ports. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > * The present Conspectus expresses my strictly personal understanding of > what occurred on the FreeBSD-stable mailing list during the specified > week. > > * I may have made errors and/or mistakes as well as typos. If you feel > that this is indeed the case, and/or that I have omitted some > significant thread or part of a thread, feel free to contact me via > email. Constructive criticism is more than welcome. > > > Salvo Bartolotta > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 6:15:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C1237C0BB; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 06:15:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com ([204.32.31.35]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28643; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:14:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 80012E6AC0; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 06:14:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: kris@FreeBSD.org Cc: psyrawt@nottingham.ac.uk, ray@rjk191.rh.psu.edu, stable@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: (message from Kris Kennaway on Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:58:30 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: ssh and librsaintl References: Message-Id: <20000703131449.80012E6AC0@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 06:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This port is still broken, at least for me using internat code and cvsup as of yesterday. I have not been able to get it to work for a long time... netcom1# make ===> Extracting for librsaintl-1.1 >> Checksum OK for librsaintl/rsa_eay.c. >> Checksum OK for librsaintl/rsa_err.c. >> Checksum OK for librsaintl/rsa_intlstubs.c. >> Checksum OK for librsaintl/cryptlib.h. ===> Patching for librsaintl-1.1 ===> Configuring for librsaintl-1.1 ===> Building for librsaintl-1.1 Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports/security/librsaintl/work cc -march=k6 -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA -DL_ENDIAN -DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -c rsa_err.c -o rsa_err.o rsa_err.c:77: `RSA_F_RSA_NULL' undeclared here (not in a function) rsa_err.c:77: initializer element is not constant rsa_err.c:77: (near initialization for `RSA_str_functs[8].error') rsa_err.c:115: `RSA_R_INVALID_MESSAGE_LENGTH' undeclared here (not in a function) rsa_err.c:115: initializer element is not constant rsa_err.c:115: (near initialization for `RSA_str_reasons[16].error') rsa_err.c:124: `RSA_R_RSA_OPERATIONS_NOT_SUPPORTED' undeclared here (not in a function) rsa_err.c:124: initializer element is not constant rsa_err.c:124: (near initialization for `RSA_str_reasons[25].error') *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/librsaintl/work. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/librsaintl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/librsaintl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/librsaintl. netcom1# X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:58:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway Cc: Ray Kohler , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-RULES: lists On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > anyone have any clues? > > The port is broken, someone needs to fix it. Actually, having said that it doesnt seem as if the port is broken, at least for me (well, there were two dumb typos in the MASTER_SITES which were my fault, but they won't stop it from building). Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 8: 1:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (csmd2.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De [141.44.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6DD37B5E0; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 08:01:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesse@mail.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De) Received: from knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (jesse@knecht [141.44.21.3]) by csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25802; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:01:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from jesse@localhost) by knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id RAA11803; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:00:38 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de: jesse set sender to jesse@cs.uni-magdeburg.de using -f To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Nik Clayton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Conspectus] -stable, week ending 5th June 2000 References: <20000617140741.A6749@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000703141440.H29903@pavilion.net> From: Roland Jesse In-Reply-To: Josef Karthauser's message of "Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:14:40 +0100" Date: 03 Jul 2000 17:00:38 +0200 Message-ID: <0v4s676yy1.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Lines: 5 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Josef Karthauser writes: > Are we going to see any more of these Nik? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 8:18:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [212.74.0.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E15F37B55D; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 08:18:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA79155; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:18:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 0D92612724; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:20:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:20:32 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Roland Jesse Cc: Nik Clayton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Conspectus] -stable, week ending 5th June 2000 Message-ID: <20000703162031.N29903@pavilion.net> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Roland Jesse , Nik Clayton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000617140741.A6749@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000703141440.H29903@pavilion.net> <0v4s676yy1.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <0v4s676yy1.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de>; from jesse@mail.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De on Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 05:00:38PM +0200 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 05:00:38PM +0200, Roland Jesse wrote: > Josef Karthauser writes: > > > Are we going to see any more of these Nik? > > Yes I know - the last one was for the week ending the 5th June. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 8:39:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375A937B84F for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 08:39:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E018E8D4 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 11:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02478; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 11:39:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14688.46019.59832.34577@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 11:39:47 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: man nice(1) In-Reply-To: <200007021418.e62EIww00785@cwsys.cwsent.com> References: <20000702120917.D5BA71E7E@wit401310.student.utwente.nl> <200007021418.e62EIww00785@cwsys.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "CS" == Cy Schubert <- ITSD Open Systems Group > writes: CS> I see you're a csh user. C Shell has a builtin nice which is CS> incompatible with /usr/bin/nice which is used by the Bourne shell and CS> any of its descendants. It might be good then to document the nice command as possibly being impelemented in the shell, and to check you shell's man page also. Similarly for the "test" program. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 9: 4:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAEA37B900 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:04:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20389; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:04:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA33496; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:04:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007031604.JAA33496@vashon.polstra.com> To: dgilbert@velocet.ca Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: <14688.5490.654644.236764@trooper.velocet.net> References: <14687.31567.786744.239851@trooper.velocet.net> <200007030342.UAA19070@freeway.dcfinc.com> <14688.5490.654644.236764@trooper.velocet.net> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <14688.5490.654644.236764@trooper.velocet.net>, David Gilbert wrote: > I would like to have a resource that I could pay to find kernel bugs > that are biting me. I've solved the last two kernel bugs myself > (which was fun in a way), but I'd happily pay money for help in this > regard. > > We need a "guns for hire" page. We have one: http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consulting_bycat.html John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 9: 9: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A861337B8A5 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20414; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA33531; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:08:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007031608.JAA33531@vashon.polstra.com> To: khera@kciLink.com Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man nice(1) In-Reply-To: <14688.46019.59832.34577@onceler.kcilink.com> References: <20000702120917.D5BA71E7E@wit401310.student.utwente.nl> <200007021418.e62EIww00785@cwsys.cwsent.com> <14688.46019.59832.34577@onceler.kcilink.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <14688.46019.59832.34577@onceler.kcilink.com>, Vivek Khera wrote: > It might be good then to document the nice command as possibly being > impelemented in the shell, and to check you shell's man page also. RTFM nice(1): Some shells may provide a builtin nice command which is similar or iden- tical to this utility. Consult the builtin(1) manual page. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 9:19:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from marble.fbcc.com (ns2.fbcc.com [216.54.252.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E508437B8A5 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:19:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: (qmail 29800 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2000 16:21:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bluto.jimking.net) (216.54.255.8) by ns2.fbcc.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2000 16:21:58 -0000 Received: from marble (marble.lgc.com [134.132.228.8]) by bluto.jimking.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA83206; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 11:19:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Message-ID: <037601bfe50a$79086450$08e48486@marble> From: "Jim King" To: "Greg Work" , "David Heller" , References: <200007020221.e622Lu110181@lerami.lerctr.org> <395F8EC1.9E49BCB3@rochester.rr.com> <004401bfe4ec$7ef0fa80$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 11:19:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Work wrote: > > I don't know if this applies but I have a k6-2 400mhz that was getting > > signal 11's frequently during compiling or cpu extensive functions. And > > simply adding heat sink compound between cpu and fan solved it. > > > > Dave > > > That easy huh?? > > hmm...i may have to see if i can scam some thermal grease. > > (i will bury my head in the sand for a while if this turns out to be the > solution :) - im currently using the frag tape that came attached to the > bottom of the heatsink ) Thermal paste is much more efficient than frag tape. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 10:53:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516D037B70E for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 10:53:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3394A137F35 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:53:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA87590; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:53:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14688.54024.380354.862233@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:53:12 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Stable crystal 4237 stops working. X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today's CVSup kernel says pcm0: at port 0x534-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1,0 on isa0 about my sound card. It worked with a cvsup a little more than a month ago, but now when I hit "play" on xmms, it "fastforwards" through all the mp3s with no sound output. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 10:58: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [209.67.240.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6054A37B934 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 10:58:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@rentul.net) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F94D3D32; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC425BC2; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:58:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Lutner X-Sender: sean@lowrider.lewman.org To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stable crystal 4237 stops working. In-Reply-To: <14688.54024.380354.862233@trooper.velocet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think there was a discussion only a day ago about this same thing. I think... http://www.xmms.org/faq.html#r9 fixed it. On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, David Gilbert wrote: > Today's CVSup kernel says > > pcm0: at port 0x534-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1,0 on isa0 > > about my sound card. It worked with a cvsup a little more than a > month ago, but now when I hit "play" on xmms, it "fastforwards" > through all the mp3s with no sound output. > > Dave. > > -- > ============================================================================ > |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | > |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | > |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | > =========================================================GLO================ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 11: 3: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from golf.dax.net (golf.dax.net [193.216.69.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BF537B795 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raw@c2i.net) Received: from localhost.my.domain (mp-217-203-37.daxnet.no [193.217.203.37]) by golf.dax.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02753; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:02:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from raw@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00493; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:02:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from raw) From: "Raymond A. Wiker" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14688.54605.204875.760860@localhost.my.domain> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:02:53 +0200 (CEST) To: "Greg Work" Cc: "David Heller" , Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: <004401bfe4ec$7ef0fa80$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> References: <200007020221.e622Lu110181@lerami.lerctr.org> <395F8EC1.9E49BCB3@rochester.rr.com> <004401bfe4ec$7ef0fa80$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Work writes: > > I don't know if this applies but I have a k6-2 400mhz that was getting > > signal 11's frequently during compiling or cpu extensive functions. And > > simply adding heat sink compound between cpu and fan solved it. > > > > Dave > > > That easy huh?? > > hmm...i may have to see if i can scam some thermal grease. > > (i will bury my head in the sand for a while if this turns out to be the > solution :) - im currently using the frag tape that came attached to the > bottom of the heatsink ) Another possibility may be that your PSU is unable to deliver enough current at one of the supply voltages - maybe you should try moving the the whole caboodle to a different case? //Raymond. -- Raymond Wiker To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 11:58:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C99337BBF9 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 11:58:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@freebsddiary.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA12279 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 06:58:31 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 06:58:30 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: sshd/RSAPrivateDecrypt problems after make world Reply-To: dan@freebsddiary.org Message-ID: <39618B16.6026.9D45CB7@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I installed FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE on a box. Then I did a cvsup, which included the secure-cvs collection. Then I did a make world, install, kernel, merge, and rebooted. All seems find except sshd doesn't accept incoming connections. The following is from /var/log/messages: Jul 3 21:50:06 p100 sshd[171]: ** RSAPrivateDecrypt: Unable to find an RSAREF shared library (librsaref.so). Install the /usr/ports/security/rsaref port or package and run this program again. See the OpenSSL chapter in the FreeBSD Handbook, located at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/openssl.html, for more information. Jul 3 21:50:06 p100 sshd[171]: fatal: rsa_private_decrypt() failed. I find this confusing as I've followed this install procedure before and not had a problem with sshd such as the above. Has something recently changed with sshd and I've missed it? Checked the archives indicates that the consensus is that I should install the RSAREF port. Odd, I never had to do that before. So has something changed? Could I have messed up during the merge? cheers. # more /etc/make.conf USA_RESIDENT=NO # uname -a FreeBSD p100.foobar.invalid 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Mon Jul 3 21:28:47 NZST 2000 root@p100.foobar.invalid:/usr/src/sys/compile/P100 i386 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 12:11:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pciway.com (d83b4646.dsl.flashcom.net [216.59.70.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2F437B5C0 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:11:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from loren@pciway.com) Received: from localhost (loren@localhost) by pciway.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03754 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:12:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from loren@pciway.com) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:12:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Loren Koss To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problem building the world.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am currently running 3.4-RELEASE and just CVS'd the 4.x-STABLE branch. Doing a make buildworld results in the following error: Mon Jul 03 2000 12:06pm root:/usr/src>make buildworld Makefile:112: *** missing separator. Stop. Can someone help me? Thanks Do I need a newer version of make? Thanks Loren Koss To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 12:17:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3106.mail.yahoo.com (web3106.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.191]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD1BF37B902 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:17:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000703194350.16611.qmail@web3106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [150.159.224.8] by web3106.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 12:43:50 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:43:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: sshd/RSAPrivateDecrypt problems after make world To: dan@freebsddiary.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I thought I read in the RELEASE-4.0-UPDATE file that it will build with OpenSSH support by default, which could interfere with an existing SSH installation. You have to specifically make with NO_OPENSSH (I can't remember the variable exactly) turned on. -Richard --- Dan Langille wrote: > I installed FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE on a box. Then I did a cvsup, which > included the secure-cvs collection. Then I did a make world, install, > kernel, merge, and rebooted. All seems find except sshd doesn't > accept incoming connections. The following is from /var/log/messages: > > Jul 3 21:50:06 p100 sshd[171]: ** RSAPrivateDecrypt: Unable to find an > RSAREF shared library (librsaref.so). Install the > /usr/ports/security/rsaref port or package and run this program again. > See the OpenSSL chapter in the FreeBSD Handbook, located at > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/openssl.html, for more information. > Jul 3 21:50:06 p100 sshd[171]: fatal: rsa_private_decrypt() failed. > > I find this confusing as I've followed this install procedure before and not > had a problem with sshd such as the above. Has something recently > changed with sshd and I've missed it? Checked the archives indicates > that the consensus is that I should install the RSAREF port. Odd, I > never had to do that before. So has something changed? Could I have > messed up during the merge? > > cheers. > > # more /etc/make.conf > USA_RESIDENT=NO > > # uname -a > FreeBSD p100.foobar.invalid 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: > Mon Jul 3 21:28:47 NZST 2000 > root@p100.foobar.invalid:/usr/src/sys/compile/P100 i386 > -- > Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited > FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 12:19:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0A2837B584 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:19:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 30597 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jul 2000 19:19:17 -0000 Received: from pc19f6077.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (193.159.96.119) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 3 Jul 2000 19:19:17 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10161 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:38:34 +0200 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:38:34 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) Message-ID: <20000703193834.Q5945@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <14687.42282.873585.2561@trooper.velocet.net> <200007030344.UAA19117@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200007030344.UAA19117@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 08:44:32PM -0700 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 20:44 -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > > I have a PIII/450 with a venerable Adaptec 2940UW and a > > Quantum 9G SCSI disk. > > Oh, man. You're making me feel old. A 2940UW is "venerable"? > What's that make my 1540C? I didn't watch the start of the thread, but are _you_ the one complaining about the duration of SCSI operations? And is this controller installed in a machine with PCI slots? If so, I'm very tempted to scream out loud "Aha!". If not, never mind. :) The Problem with aha1542 (ISA busmaster capable controller) in PCI boards is that it is located "at the end" of a long chain to memory. Chances are, busmastering will not work at all behind the PCI to ISA bridge since all the PCI devices have higher priority and the ISA gadget never gets any access granted or at least always too late. You're better off with a PCI controller. Another thing bubbles up: When adaptec switched from 1542B to 1542C people moaned about "nothing works any longer". But it just was that suddenly sloppy (cheap) cable caused problems when it worked before due to the "better" signal form of the new electronics (sorry, I lack better words, but the signal was "sharpened" in the new model which definitely is an improvement). It's just that now fell back what the user did wrong before. This is much like hardware failing under UNIX when it has been working for years under DoS. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 12:23:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A571B37BA5D for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:23:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (user-38lc8tb.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.35.171]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27253; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:23:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Loren Koss Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem building the world.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Loren Koss wrote: > I am currently running 3.4-RELEASE and just CVS'd the 4.x-STABLE branch. > Doing a make buildworld results in the following error: > > Mon Jul 03 2000 12:06pm root:/usr/src>make buildworld > Makefile:112: *** missing separator. Stop. Follow the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING very carefully. There are many opportunities to shoot your self in the foot. Good luck, -- Jim Weeks -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 12:25:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pciway.com (d83b4646.dsl.flashcom.net [216.59.70.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDD637BD21 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:25:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from loren@pciway.com) Received: from localhost (loren@localhost) by pciway.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03824; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:26:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from loren@pciway.com) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:26:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Loren Koss To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem building the world.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am.. I've upgraded before.. I'm not worried about it.. Problem is, it seems my make or gmake, for that matter isn't working properly. What am I doing wrong. This is step 1! (or 2 after a backup :) ).. Loreny On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Loren Koss wrote: > > > I am currently running 3.4-RELEASE and just CVS'd the 4.x-STABLE branch. > > Doing a make buildworld results in the following error: > > > > Mon Jul 03 2000 12:06pm root:/usr/src>make buildworld > > Makefile:112: *** missing separator. Stop. > > Follow the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING very carefully. There are > many opportunities to shoot your self in the foot. > > Good luck, > > -- > Jim Weeks > -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 12:26:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92D437C21C for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:26:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@freebsddiary.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12422; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 07:26:40 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Richard Stanaford Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 07:26:39 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: sshd/RSAPrivateDecrypt problems after make world Reply-To: dan@freebsddiary.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <396191AF.27604.9EE22D6@localhost> In-reply-to: <20000703194350.16611.qmail@web3106.mail.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG All previous installs I've done have come up with OpenSSH. And so has this: # telnet 192.168.0.100 22 Trying 192.168.0.100... Connected to p100.foobar.invalid Escape character is '^]'. SSH-1.99-OpenSSH-2.1 etc... What existing SSH installation are you referring to? This was a fresh install of 4.0-R, which didn't have SSH (AFAIK) as it was a minimal install. thanks. On 3 Jul 2000, at 12:43, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > I thought I read in the RELEASE-4.0-UPDATE file that it will build with OpenSSH > support by default, which could interfere with an existing SSH installation. > You have to specifically make with NO_OPENSSH (I can't remember the variable > exactly) turned on. > > -Richard > > > > > > --- Dan Langille wrote: > > I installed FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE on a box. Then I did a cvsup, which > > included the secure-cvs collection. Then I did a make world, install, > > kernel, merge, and rebooted. All seems find except sshd doesn't > > accept incoming connections. The following is from /var/log/messages: > > > > Jul 3 21:50:06 p100 sshd[171]: ** RSAPrivateDecrypt: Unable to find an > > RSAREF shared library (librsaref.so). Install the > > /usr/ports/security/rsaref port or package and run this program again. > > See the OpenSSL chapter in the FreeBSD Handbook, located at > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/openssl.html, for more information. > > Jul 3 21:50:06 p100 sshd[171]: fatal: rsa_private_decrypt() failed. > > > > I find this confusing as I've followed this install procedure before and not > > had a problem with sshd such as the above. Has something recently > > changed with sshd and I've missed it? Checked the archives indicates > > that the consensus is that I should install the RSAREF port. Odd, I > > never had to do that before. So has something changed? Could I have > > messed up during the merge? > > > > cheers. > > > > # more /etc/make.conf > > USA_RESIDENT=NO > > > > # uname -a > > FreeBSD p100.foobar.invalid 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: > > Mon Jul 3 21:28:47 NZST 2000 > > root@p100.foobar.invalid:/usr/src/sys/compile/P100 i386 > > -- > > Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited > > FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 12:37:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE52937B551 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:37:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 73A359B1C; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:37:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64638BA0C; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:37:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:37:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: Loren Koss Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem building the world.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Loren Koss wrote: > I am currently running 3.4-RELEASE and just CVS'd the 4.x-STABLE branch. > Doing a make buildworld results in the following error: > > Mon Jul 03 2000 12:06pm root:/usr/src>make buildworld > Makefile:112: *** missing separator. Stop. > > Can someone help me? Thanks Do I need a newer version of make? > Actually it looks as though your make(1) is GNU make(1) instead of the native BSD make(1). ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 12:52:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBBC37B551 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:52:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (user-38lc8tb.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.35.171]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04959; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:52:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Loren Koss Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem building the world.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Loren Koss wrote: > > > I am currently running 3.4-RELEASE and just CVS'd the 4.x-STABLE branch. > > > Doing a make buildworld results in the following error: Whoa, wait a minute. I didn't catch that you were moving from 3.4-RELEASE the first time. If my memory serves me correctly there has been discussion of this before, and the answer was to build 3.X-STABLE first. If I am wrong someone please correct me. I belive this can be found in archives -- Jim Weeks -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 13: 2: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pciway.com (d83b4646.dsl.flashcom.net [216.59.70.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B7137C1BD for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:01:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from loren@pciway.com) Received: from localhost (loren@localhost) by pciway.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13689; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:02:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from loren@pciway.com) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:02:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Loren Koss To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem building the world.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I searched the archive regarding moving from 3.4-RELEASE to 4.x-STABLE and saw that someone in January was going to try it, but i didn't see a followup on it. Nor, did I see anyone say that it was a problem. Oh, btw, i actually have 3.3-RELEASE.. I got the buildworld to start. It turns out you cant use gmake.. So, I moved all my references back to make and its building as we speak.. Loren On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Loren Koss wrote: > > > I am currently running 3.4-RELEASE and just CVS'd the 4.x-STABLE branch. > > Doing a make buildworld results in the following error: > > > > Mon Jul 03 2000 12:06pm root:/usr/src>make buildworld > > Makefile:112: *** missing separator. Stop. > > Follow the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING very carefully. There are > many opportunities to shoot your self in the foot. > > Good luck, > > -- > Jim Weeks > -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 13:13:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2247837C053 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:13:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@freebsddiary.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12643; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 08:13:12 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: "Sean O'Connell" Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 08:13:10 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: sshd/RSAPrivateDecrypt problems after make world Reply-To: dan@freebsddiary.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <39619C96.21703.A18BFA5@localhost> In-reply-to: <20000703153758.J5352@stat.Duke.EDU> References: <396191AF.27604.9EE22D6@localhost>; from dan@freebsddiary.org on Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 07:26:39AM +1200 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I first got crypto from cvsup.nz.freebsd.org which is a mirror of cvsup.internat.freebsd.org. Then I tried internat directly. Thanks for those archive references. It appears to still be broken. As for src-crypto-rsa, it appears that /usr/share/examples/cvsup/secure- supfile needs to include that collection. I just added it to my supfile, resupped, and starting the build world again. Is any action being taken to resolve this issue? It's going to catch out a lot of people. On 3 Jul 2000, at 15:37, Sean O'Connell wrote: > Dan Langille stated: > : All previous installs I've done have come up with OpenSSH. And so has > : this: > : > : > : # telnet 192.168.0.100 22 > : Trying 192.168.0.100... > : Connected to p100.foobar.invalid > : Escape character is '^]'. > : SSH-1.99-OpenSSH-2.1 > : > : etc... > : > : What existing SSH installation are you referring to? This was a fresh > : install of 4.0-R, which didn't have SSH (AFAIK) as it was a minimal > : install. > : > : thanks. > > Dan- > > Where did you snag you cvs-crypto from? You want to do this from > a mirror of internat.freebsd.org. Also, there may be a need to snag > a src-crypto-rsa distro to get the rsa support. > > check out > > 1) problem > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=85833+0+current/freebsd-stable > > 2) fix (description) > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=127987+0+current/freebsd-stable > > 3) reaction > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=130069+0+current/freebsd-stable > > S > -- > 1--------01---------01--------01--------01--------01--------01--------0 > Sean O'Connell sean@stat.Duke.EDU > -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 13:17:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BF537B587 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:17:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (user-38lc8tb.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.35.171]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02900; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:17:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Loren Koss Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem building the world.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Loren Koss wrote: > I searched the archive regarding moving from 3.4-RELEASE to 4.x-STABLE and > saw that someone in January was going to try it, but i didn't see a > followup on it. Nor, did I see anyone say that it was a problem. Oh, > btw, i actually have 3.3-RELEASE.. I got the buildworld to start. It > turns out you cant use gmake.. So, I moved all my references back to make > and its building as we speak.. > > Loren Yes, I found that thread as well. Now that you mention it I seem to remember a problem with gmake. Any way, I am glad that you have it building. -- Jim Weeks -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 13:20:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3825237B587 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:20:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05154; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:20:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:20:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Dan Langille Cc: "Sean O'Connell" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sshd/RSAPrivateDecrypt problems after make world In-Reply-To: <39619C96.21703.A18BFA5@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Dan Langille wrote: >I first got crypto from cvsup.nz.freebsd.org which is a mirror of >cvsup.internat.freebsd.org. Then I tried internat directly. > >Thanks for those archive references. It appears to still be broken. > >As for src-crypto-rsa, it appears that /usr/share/examples/cvsup/secure- >supfile needs to include that collection. I just added it to my supfile, >resupped, and starting the build world again. > >Is any action being taken to resolve this issue? It's going to catch out >a lot of people. I just keep counting the days until September 20 when this whole crypto patent nightmare can die a quiet death and we can all spend more time doing things more useful than worrying about two crypto repositories. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 14: 0:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A123937C053; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA46113; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:00:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Harding Cc: psyrawt@nottingham.ac.uk, ray@rjk191.rh.psu.edu, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ssh and librsaintl In-Reply-To: <20000703131449.80012E6AC0@netcom1.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Mike Harding wrote: > This port is still broken, at least for me using internat code and > cvsup as of yesterday. I have not been able to get it to work for a > long time... All of these things it can't find are defined in /usr/include/openssl/rsa.h which should be picked up by the #include in that file. Can you send me that header file so I can verify it? Do you have any other stray rsa.h files around the place which may be confusing it? Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 14:10:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C4C837B84A for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:10:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reader@newsguy.com) Received: (qmail 17074 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2000 21:10:37 -0000 Received: from adsl-117-113.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.117.113) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 3 Jul 2000 21:10:37 -0000 Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18166; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:10:33 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fstab mount options From: Harry Putnam Date: 03 Jul 2000 14:10:32 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 6 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there no possibility of allowing users to mount filesystems, other than sudo or similar? `man fstab' `man mount' seems to indicate no `user' mount options. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 14:21:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from racine.cybercable.fr (racine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8F3337BFD1 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:21:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenrion@cybercable.fr) Received: (qmail 4617119 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2000 21:21:35 -0000 Received: from r121m199.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO cybercable.fr) ([195.132.121.199]) (envelope-sender ) by racine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Jul 2000 21:21:35 -0000 Message-ID: <396104A3.A89E07F@cybercable.fr> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 23:24:52 +0200 From: Maxime Henrion X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: XFree-4 installation on -STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I just wanted to install the Xfree86-4 port on my -STABLE system but can i just do make , make install as i'm already running XFree86 3.3.6 ? IMO, i should delete the old XFree before, but it's not a port. I chose installing it during the installation of FreeBSD. So, should i delete XFre86 3.3.6 and if so, how could i do ? I've not seen any docs on the handbook on that topic. Thanks for your help ! - Maxime Henrion To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 14:23:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33C237C1AD for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:23:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C1FE896 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05613; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:23:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14689.1084.894512.504331@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:23:08 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fstab mount options In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "HP" == Harry Putnam writes: HP> Is there no possibility of allowing users to mount filesystems, other HP> than sudo or similar? HP> `man fstab' `man mount' seems to indicate no `user' mount options. Correct. FreeBSD doesn't do it like linux does it. You need to turn on a sysctl to allow user mounts, then adjust file permissions to allow specific file systems to be mounted by the user. For example, from my Xstartup script (run by kdm): # allow CD-ROM and ZIP drive user-mounting. for i in /dev/*acd0* /cdrom /dev/*da0* /zip do chmod 0755 $i chown $USER $i done and Xreset when I log out: for i in /dev/*acd0* /cdrom /dev/*da0* /zip do chmod 0755 $i chown root $i done and from /etc/sysctl.conf: # allow users to mount CD-ROM and ZIP drives if they have permissions on # the devices. vfs.usermount=1 Now I can type "mount /cdrom" as a myself after logging on the graphical screen. If you don't login via KDM or XDM, you can do similar things in /etc/fbtab to set the file permissions for the console user. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 14:36:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A8037B619 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:36:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@earthlink.net) Received: from dialin-client.earthlink.net (pool1042.cvx20-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.254.22]) by merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02874; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by dialin-client.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00986; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:34:52 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Harry Putnam Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fstab mount options Message-ID: <20000703143451.G433@dialin-client.earthlink.net> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from reader@newsguy.com on Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 02:10:32PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 02:10:32PM -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > > Is there no possibility of allowing users to mount filesystems, other > than sudo or similar? Yes and no. No, there is no builtin capability to allow non-root users to use mount(8). Yes, there are other ways than sudo. Personally, I think a very short, very securely written, setuid, wrapper program to call mount would make sense. > `man fstab' `man mount' seems to indicate no `user' mount options. Well, 'mount_msdos' has a 'user' option but it means something else. If you want mortal users to mount MSDOS floppies, tho', you may want to use it. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 14:52:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nottingham.ac.uk (pat.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7D837B6E7 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:52:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from psyrawt@nottingham.ac.uk) Received: from legalex.demon.co.uk ([212.229.180.134] helo=nottingham.ac.uk) by nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 139E75-0002oy-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 22:50:48 +0100 Message-ID: <39610A64.CA0E931B@nottingham.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 22:49:24 +0100 From: User Andrew X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ssh and librsaintl Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------21B68444BCEC2B2882B33034" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------21B68444BCEC2B2882B33034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here we go, although things seemed to have changed slightly on my system. I added src-crypto-rsa to my secure supfile and cvsup'd from internat. A make world later and ssh is again working, which solved my problem. Now back to /usr/ports/security/librsaintl, it now seems to pick up the files it requrires from my local system, but now moans about checksum when I try to make. Finally now if I make NO_CHECKSUM=yes it builds fine. I've attached /usr/include/openssl/rsa.h as requested, although it just looks like the md5 checksums for the port need updating now. Andrew --------------21B68444BCEC2B2882B33034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="rsa.h" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="rsa.h" /* crypto/rsa/rsa.h */ /* $FreeBSD: src/crypto/openssl/crypto/rsa/rsa.h,v 1.2.4.1 2000/03/13 23:24:54 kris Exp $ */ /* Copyright (C) 1995-1998 Eric Young (eay@cryptsoft.com) * All rights reserved. * * This package is an SSL implementation written * by Eric Young (eay@cryptsoft.com). * The implementation was written so as to conform with Netscapes SSL. * * This library is free for commercial and non-commercial use as long as * the following conditions are aheared to. The following conditions * apply to all code found in this distribution, be it the RC4, RSA, * lhash, DES, etc., code; not just the SSL code. The SSL documentation * included with this distribution is covered by the same copyright terms * except that the holder is Tim Hudson (tjh@cryptsoft.com). * * Copyright remains Eric Young's, and as such any Copyright notices in * the code are not to be removed. * If this package is used in a product, Eric Young should be given attribution * as the author of the parts of the library used. * This can be in the form of a textual message at program startup or * in documentation (online or textual) provided with the package. * * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions * are met: * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the copyright * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the * documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software * must display the following acknowledgement: * "This product includes cryptographic software written by * Eric Young (eay@cryptsoft.com)" * The word 'cryptographic' can be left out if the rouines from the library * being used are not cryptographic related :-). * 4. If you include any Windows specific code (or a derivative thereof) from * the apps directory (application code) you must include an acknowledgement: * "This product includes software written by Tim Hudson (tjh@cryptsoft.com)" * * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY ERIC YOUNG ``AS IS'' AND * ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE * IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE * ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE * FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL * DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS * OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) * HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT * LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF * SUCH DAMAGE. * * The licence and distribution terms for any publically available version or * derivative of this code cannot be changed. i.e. this code cannot simply be * copied and put under another distribution licence * [including the GNU Public Licence.] */ #ifndef HEADER_RSA_H #define HEADER_RSA_H #ifdef __cplusplus extern "C" { #endif #include #include #ifdef NO_RSA #error RSA is disabled. #endif typedef struct rsa_st RSA; typedef struct rsa_meth_st { const char *name; int (*rsa_pub_enc)(int flen,unsigned char *from,unsigned char *to, RSA *rsa,int padding); int (*rsa_pub_dec)(int flen,unsigned char *from,unsigned char *to, RSA *rsa,int padding); int (*rsa_priv_enc)(int flen,unsigned char *from,unsigned char *to, RSA *rsa,int padding); int (*rsa_priv_dec)(int flen,unsigned char *from,unsigned char *to, RSA *rsa,int padding); int (*rsa_mod_exp)(BIGNUM *r0,BIGNUM *I,RSA *rsa); /* Can be null */ int (*bn_mod_exp)(BIGNUM *r, BIGNUM *a, const BIGNUM *p, const BIGNUM *m, BN_CTX *ctx, BN_MONT_CTX *m_ctx); /* Can be null */ int (*init)(RSA *rsa); /* called at new */ int (*finish)(RSA *rsa); /* called at free */ int flags; /* RSA_METHOD_FLAG_* things */ char *app_data; /* may be needed! */ } RSA_METHOD; struct rsa_st { /* The first parameter is used to pickup errors where * this is passed instead of aEVP_PKEY, it is set to 0 */ int pad; int version; RSA_METHOD *meth; BIGNUM *n; BIGNUM *e; BIGNUM *d; BIGNUM *p; BIGNUM *q; BIGNUM *dmp1; BIGNUM *dmq1; BIGNUM *iqmp; /* be careful using this if the RSA structure is shared */ CRYPTO_EX_DATA ex_data; int references; int flags; /* Used to cache montgomery values */ BN_MONT_CTX *_method_mod_n; BN_MONT_CTX *_method_mod_p; BN_MONT_CTX *_method_mod_q; /* all BIGNUM values are actually in the following data, if it is not * NULL */ char *bignum_data; BN_BLINDING *blinding; }; #define RSA_3 0x3L #define RSA_F4 0x10001L #define RSA_METHOD_FLAG_NO_CHECK 0x01 /* don't check pub/private match */ #define RSA_FLAG_CACHE_PUBLIC 0x02 #define RSA_FLAG_CACHE_PRIVATE 0x04 #define RSA_FLAG_BLINDING 0x08 #define RSA_FLAG_THREAD_SAFE 0x10 /* This flag means the private key operations will be handled by rsa_mod_exp * and that they do not depend on the private key components being present: * for example a key stored in external hardware. Without this flag bn_mod_exp * gets called when private key components are absent. */ #define RSA_FLAG_EXT_PKEY 0x20 #define RSA_PKCS1_PADDING 1 #define RSA_SSLV23_PADDING 2 #define RSA_NO_PADDING 3 #define RSA_PKCS1_OAEP_PADDING 4 #define RSA_set_app_data(s,arg) RSA_set_ex_data(s,0,(char *)arg) #define RSA_get_app_data(s) RSA_get_ex_data(s,0) RSA * RSA_new(void); RSA * RSA_new_method(RSA_METHOD *method); int RSA_size(RSA *); RSA * RSA_generate_key(int bits, unsigned long e,void (*callback)(int,int,void *),void *cb_arg); int RSA_check_key(RSA *); /* next 4 return -1 on error */ int RSA_public_encrypt(int flen, unsigned char *from, unsigned char *to, RSA *rsa,int padding); int RSA_private_encrypt(int flen, unsigned char *from, unsigned char *to, RSA *rsa,int padding); int RSA_public_decrypt(int flen, unsigned char *from, unsigned char *to, RSA *rsa,int padding); int RSA_private_decrypt(int flen, unsigned char *from, unsigned char *to, RSA *rsa,int padding); void RSA_free (RSA *r); int RSA_flags(RSA *r); void RSA_set_default_method(RSA_METHOD *meth); RSA_METHOD *RSA_get_default_method(void); RSA_METHOD *RSA_get_method(RSA *rsa); RSA_METHOD *RSA_set_method(RSA *rsa, RSA_METHOD *meth); /* This function needs the memory locking malloc callbacks to be installed */ int RSA_memory_lock(RSA *r); /* these are the actual SSLeay RSA functions */ RSA_METHOD *RSA_PKCS1(void); void ERR_load_RSA_strings(void ); RSA * d2i_RSAPublicKey(RSA **a, unsigned char **pp, long length); int i2d_RSAPublicKey(RSA *a, unsigned char **pp); RSA * d2i_RSAPrivateKey(RSA **a, unsigned char **pp, long length); int i2d_RSAPrivateKey(RSA *a, unsigned char **pp); #ifndef NO_FP_API int RSA_print_fp(FILE *fp, RSA *r,int offset); #endif #ifdef HEADER_BIO_H int RSA_print(BIO *bp, RSA *r,int offset); #endif int i2d_Netscape_RSA(RSA *a, unsigned char **pp, int (*cb)()); RSA *d2i_Netscape_RSA(RSA **a, unsigned char **pp, long length, int (*cb)()); /* Naughty internal function required elsewhere, to handle a MS structure * that is the same as the netscape one :-) */ RSA *d2i_Netscape_RSA_2(RSA **a, unsigned char **pp, long length, int (*cb)()); /* The following 2 functions sign and verify a X509_SIG ASN1 object * inside PKCS#1 padded RSA encryption */ int RSA_sign(int type, unsigned char *m, unsigned int m_len, unsigned char *sigret, unsigned int *siglen, RSA *rsa); int RSA_verify(int type, unsigned char *m, unsigned int m_len, unsigned char *sigbuf, unsigned int siglen, RSA *rsa); /* The following 2 function sign and verify a ASN1_OCTET_STRING * object inside PKCS#1 padded RSA encryption */ int RSA_sign_ASN1_OCTET_STRING(int type, unsigned char *m, unsigned int m_len, unsigned char *sigret, unsigned int *siglen, RSA *rsa); int RSA_verify_ASN1_OCTET_STRING(int type, unsigned char *m, unsigned int m_len, unsigned char *sigbuf, unsigned int siglen, RSA *rsa); int RSA_blinding_on(RSA *rsa, BN_CTX *ctx); void RSA_blinding_off(RSA *rsa); int RSA_padding_add_PKCS1_type_1(unsigned char *to,int tlen, unsigned char *f,int fl); int RSA_padding_check_PKCS1_type_1(unsigned char *to,int tlen, unsigned char *f,int fl,int rsa_len); int RSA_padding_add_PKCS1_type_2(unsigned char *to,int tlen, unsigned char *f,int fl); int RSA_padding_check_PKCS1_type_2(unsigned char *to,int tlen, unsigned char *f,int fl,int rsa_len); int RSA_padding_add_PKCS1_OAEP(unsigned char *to,int tlen, unsigned char *f,int fl,unsigned char *p, int pl); int RSA_padding_check_PKCS1_OAEP(unsigned char *to,int tlen, unsigned char *f,int fl,int rsa_len, unsigned char *p,int pl); int RSA_padding_add_SSLv23(unsigned char *to,int tlen, unsigned char *f,int fl); int RSA_padding_check_SSLv23(unsigned char *to,int tlen, unsigned char *f,int fl,int rsa_len); int RSA_padding_add_none(unsigned char *to,int tlen, unsigned char *f,int fl); int RSA_padding_check_none(unsigned char *to,int tlen, unsigned char *f,int fl,int rsa_len); int RSA_get_ex_new_index(long argl, char *argp, int (*new_func)(), int (*dup_func)(), void (*free_func)()); int RSA_set_ex_data(RSA *r,int idx,char *arg); char *RSA_get_ex_data(RSA *r, int idx); int RSA_libversion(); /* BEGIN ERROR CODES */ /* The following lines are auto generated by the script mkerr.pl. Any changes * made after this point may be overwritten when the script is next run. */ /* Error codes for the RSA functions. */ /* Function codes. */ #define RSA_F_MEMORY_LOCK 100 #define RSA_F_RSA_CHECK_KEY 123 #define RSA_F_RSA_EAY_PRIVATE_DECRYPT 101 #define RSA_F_RSA_EAY_PRIVATE_ENCRYPT 102 #define RSA_F_RSA_EAY_PUBLIC_DECRYPT 103 #define RSA_F_RSA_EAY_PUBLIC_ENCRYPT 104 #define RSA_F_RSA_GENERATE_KEY 105 #define RSA_F_RSA_NEW_METHOD 106 #define RSA_F_RSA_PADDING_ADD_NONE 107 #define RSA_F_RSA_PADDING_ADD_PKCS1_OAEP 121 #define RSA_F_RSA_PADDING_ADD_PKCS1_TYPE_1 108 #define RSA_F_RSA_PADDING_ADD_PKCS1_TYPE_2 109 #define RSA_F_RSA_PADDING_ADD_SSLV23 110 #define RSA_F_RSA_PADDING_CHECK_NONE 111 #define RSA_F_RSA_PADDING_CHECK_PKCS1_OAEP 122 #define RSA_F_RSA_PADDING_CHECK_PKCS1_TYPE_1 112 #define RSA_F_RSA_PADDING_CHECK_PKCS1_TYPE_2 113 #define RSA_F_RSA_PADDING_CHECK_SSLV23 114 #define RSA_F_RSA_PRINT 115 #define RSA_F_RSA_PRINT_FP 116 #define RSA_F_RSA_SIGN 117 #define RSA_F_RSA_SIGN_ASN1_OCTET_STRING 118 #define RSA_F_RSA_VERIFY 119 #define RSA_F_RSA_VERIFY_ASN1_OCTET_STRING 120 /* Reason codes. */ #define RSA_R_ALGORITHM_MISMATCH 100 #define RSA_R_BAD_E_VALUE 101 #define RSA_R_BAD_FIXED_HEADER_DECRYPT 102 #define RSA_R_BAD_PAD_BYTE_COUNT 103 #define RSA_R_BAD_SIGNATURE 104 #define RSA_R_BLOCK_TYPE_IS_NOT_01 106 #define RSA_R_BLOCK_TYPE_IS_NOT_02 107 #define RSA_R_DATA_GREATER_THAN_MOD_LEN 108 #define RSA_R_DATA_TOO_LARGE 109 #define RSA_R_DATA_TOO_LARGE_FOR_KEY_SIZE 110 #define RSA_R_DATA_TOO_SMALL 111 #define RSA_R_DATA_TOO_SMALL_FOR_KEY_SIZE 122 #define RSA_R_D_E_NOT_CONGRUENT_TO_1 123 #define RSA_R_DIGEST_TOO_BIG_FOR_RSA_KEY 112 #define RSA_R_DMP1_NOT_CONGRUENT_TO_D 124 #define RSA_R_DMQ1_NOT_CONGRUENT_TO_D 125 #define RSA_R_IQMP_NOT_INVERSE_OF_Q 126 #define RSA_R_KEY_SIZE_TOO_SMALL 120 #define RSA_R_NULL_BEFORE_BLOCK_MISSING 113 #define RSA_R_N_DOES_NOT_EQUAL_P_Q 127 #define RSA_R_OAEP_DECODING_ERROR 121 #define RSA_R_PADDING_CHECK_FAILED 114 #define RSA_R_P_NOT_PRIME 128 #define RSA_R_Q_NOT_PRIME 129 #define RSA_R_SSLV3_ROLLBACK_ATTACK 115 #define RSA_R_THE_ASN1_OBJECT_IDENTIFIER_IS_NOT_KNOWN_FOR_THIS_MD 116 #define RSA_R_UNKNOWN_ALGORITHM_TYPE 117 #define RSA_R_UNKNOWN_PADDING_TYPE 118 #define RSA_R_WRONG_SIGNATURE_LENGTH 119 #define RSALIB_OPENSSL 1 #define RSALIB_RSAREF 2 #ifdef __cplusplus } #endif #endif --------------21B68444BCEC2B2882B33034-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 14:52:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642F137B6CE; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:52:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA51746; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:52:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:52:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Loren Koss Cc: Jim Weeks , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem building the world.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Loren Koss wrote: > I searched the archive regarding moving from 3.4-RELEASE to 4.x-STABLE and > saw that someone in January was going to try it, but i didn't see a > followup on it. Nor, did I see anyone say that it was a problem. Oh, > btw, i actually have 3.3-RELEASE.. I got the buildworld to start. It > turns out you cant use gmake.. So, I moved all my references back to make > and its building as we speak.. As you have learned, make and gmake are different beasts. Just part of the GNU/Microsoft "embrace and extend" philosophy. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 14:55:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2386637B721; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:55:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA51997; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:55:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:55:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Dan Langille Cc: "Sean O'Connell" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd/RSAPrivateDecrypt problems after make world In-Reply-To: <39619C96.21703.A18BFA5@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Dan Langille wrote: > I first got crypto from cvsup.nz.freebsd.org which is a mirror of > cvsup.internat.freebsd.org. Then I tried internat directly. > > Thanks for those archive references. It appears to still be broken. > > As for src-crypto-rsa, it appears that /usr/share/examples/cvsup/secure- > supfile needs to include that collection. I just added it to my supfile, > resupped, and starting the build world again. > > Is any action being taken to resolve this issue? It's going to catch out > a lot of people. Yes, I'm hoping Peter will fix it soon. I don't know why he didn't revert the change once he realised it was not the correct way :-( Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 14:57:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A36137C12A; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:57:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA52166; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:57:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:57:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Maxime Henrion Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree-4 installation on -STABLE In-Reply-To: <396104A3.A89E07F@cybercable.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Maxime Henrion wrote: > Hi, > > I just wanted to install the Xfree86-4 port on my -STABLE system but > can i just do make , make install as i'm already running XFree86 3.3.6 ? > IMO, i should delete the old XFree before, but it's not a port. I chose > installing it during the installation of FreeBSD. > So, should i delete XFre86 3.3.6 and if so, how could i do ? I've > not seen any docs on the handbook on that topic. pkg_delete(1) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 14:58:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A8C37C057; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:58:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA52309; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:58:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:58:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: User Andrew Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh and librsaintl In-Reply-To: <39610A64.CA0E931B@nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, User Andrew wrote: > Here we go, although things seemed to have changed slightly on my > system. I added src-crypto-rsa to my secure supfile and cvsup'd from > internat. A make world later and ssh is again working, which solved my > problem. Now back to /usr/ports/security/librsaintl, it now seems to > pick up the files it requrires from my local system, but now moans about > checksum when I try to make. Finally now if I make NO_CHECKSUM=yes it > builds fine. I've attached /usr/include/openssl/rsa.h as requested, > although it just looks like the md5 checksums for the port need updating > now. Umm, if you are building from source then you don't need librsaintl, which also builds the same thing. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 15:10:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3104.mail.yahoo.com (web3104.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC2ED37B51C for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:10:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000703221045.10705.qmail@web3104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [150.159.224.8] by web3104.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 15:10:45 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:10:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: Problem building the world.. To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well... I'm trying it from RELEASE-3.0. It's building now... uh.. on a 486/DX4/100 with 16MB of RAM... AIEEE! I'll let you know in a day or so. *snicker* -Richard --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Loren Koss wrote: > > > I searched the archive regarding moving from 3.4-RELEASE to 4.x-STABLE and > > saw that someone in January was going to try it, but i didn't see a > > followup on it. Nor, did I see anyone say that it was a problem. Oh, > > btw, i actually have 3.3-RELEASE.. I got the buildworld to start. It > > turns out you cant use gmake.. So, I moved all my references back to make > > and its building as we speak.. > > As you have learned, make and gmake are different beasts. Just part of the > GNU/Microsoft "embrace and extend" philosophy. > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 15:12:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apoq.skynet.be (apoq.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AC237C04A for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:12:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by apoq.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A453D1F664; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:12:14 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <14689.1084.894512.504331@onceler.kcilink.com> References: <14689.1084.894512.504331@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:07:32 +0200 To: Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: fstab mount options Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 5:23 PM -0400 2000/7/3, Vivek Khera wrote: > # allow CD-ROM and ZIP drive user-mounting. > for i in /dev/*acd0* /cdrom /dev/*da0* /zip > do > chmod 0755 $i > chown $USER $i > done So, if you happen to have any regular fixed disks that are /dev/*da0* (e.g., the ones that /, /usr, /var, etc... are on), you will allow unprivileged users to mount them, presumably unmount them, and otherwise muck about with them however they want?!? Moof! I hope that this is on a machine that is effectively single-user (i.e., just you), and not one that allows anyone else to ever log in.... -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 15:14: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C2B37C1EE for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:14:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21987; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:13:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007032213.PAA21987@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Problem building the world.. In-Reply-To: <20000703221045.10705.qmail@web3104.mail.yahoo.com> from Richard Stanaford at "Jul 3, 0 03:10:45 pm" To: rsstan@yahoo.com (Richard Stanaford) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:13:56 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Richard Stanaford wrote: > Well... I'm trying it from RELEASE-3.0. It's building now... uh.. > on a 486/DX4/100 with 16MB of RAM... AIEEE! I'll let you know in a > day or so. > *snicker* Won't take quite that long. My DX/50 does it in about 20 hours. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 15:14:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3106.mail.yahoo.com (web3106.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.191]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0164A37C12A for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000703224125.968.qmail@web3106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [150.159.224.8] by web3106.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 15:41:25 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:41:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: XFree-4 installation on -STABLE To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just wanna throw some caution out there. Make sure there is support for your card before abandoning 3.3.6. I decided to RTFM before grabbing the 4.0 binaries only to find out that most of the legacy stuff.. S3 and so on hasn't been ported yet. It's a day to day thing, so the update said, but driver support is still pretty spartan and in favor of the newer 3D cards. -Richard --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Maxime Henrion wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I just wanted to install the Xfree86-4 port on my -STABLE system but > > can i just do make , make install as i'm already running XFree86 3.3.6 ? > > IMO, i should delete the old XFree before, but it's not a port. I chose > > installing it during the installation of FreeBSD. > > So, should i delete XFre86 3.3.6 and if so, how could i do ? I've > > not seen any docs on the handbook on that topic. > > pkg_delete(1) > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 15:18: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3106.mail.yahoo.com (web3106.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.191]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 573FA37B64B for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:17:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000703224443.1230.qmail@web3106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [150.159.224.8] by web3106.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 15:44:43 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:44:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: Problem building the world.. To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What amazes me is that it hasn't died with Sig 11's yet. Wow. And I don't think I have a single component in the box that's less than four years old. I'm thinking about putting a Chevy emblem on it.. you know.. Like a Rock or something.. LOL. Tough lil' box. -Richard --- "Chad R. Larson" wrote: > As I recall, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > Well... I'm trying it from RELEASE-3.0. It's building now... uh.. > > on a 486/DX4/100 with 16MB of RAM... AIEEE! I'll let you know in a > > day or so. > > *snicker* > > Won't take quite that long. My DX/50 does it in about 20 hours. > > -crl > -- > Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? > chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 15:27: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hardy.mskcc.org (msk-130-20.mskcc.org [140.163.130.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF4437B5FC for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from heath@hardy.mskcc.org) Received: (from heath@localhost) by hardy.mskcc.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA13922; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:26:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:26:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Simon Heath Message-Id: <200007032226.SAA13922@hardy.mskcc.org> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Subject: Poor NFS performance with 4.0-stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On moving from 4.0-release to 4.0-stable I'm getting a big slow down in file transfers over NFS. Previously it was taking about 8s to transfer a 64Mb file (100baseTX), so about 8Mb/sec. Now it's closer to 20k/sec... This is when accessing both NFS servers running FreeBSD 4.0-release and Solaris 8. Access speeds when the 4.0-stable machine is running as a server are also very slow. Access speeds between the other machines is at the 8Mb/sec level. Any suggestions as to what I should be looking at? The nic card is an Intel EtherExpress Pro, and there do not appear to be any relevant error messages in /var/log/messages or dmesg. Any suggestions gratefully received! Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 15:31:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D818F37B639 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:31:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dg@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11735; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007032220.PAA11735@implode.root.com> To: Simon Heath Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Poor NFS performance with 4.0-stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 03 Jul 2000 18:26:58 EDT." <200007032226.SAA13922@hardy.mskcc.org> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 15:20:13 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >On moving from 4.0-release to 4.0-stable I'm getting a big slow down in file >transfers over NFS. Previously it was taking about 8s to transfer a 64Mb >file (100baseTX), so about 8Mb/sec. Now it's closer to 20k/sec... This is >when accessing both NFS servers running FreeBSD 4.0-release and Solaris 8. >Access speeds when the 4.0-stable machine is running as a server are also >very slow. Access speeds between the other machines is at the 8Mb/sec >level. Any suggestions as to what I should be looking at? The nic card is >an Intel EtherExpress Pro, and there do not appear to be any relevant error >messages in /var/log/messages or dmesg. Any suggestions gratefully >received! Are any of the machines connected to a switch? Is the duplex detected correctly on all of the ports involved? -DG David Greenman Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Manufacturer of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com Pave the road of life with opportunities. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 15:35:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hardy.mskcc.org (msk-130-20.mskcc.org [140.163.130.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B961D37BEF2 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from heath@hardy.mskcc.org) Received: (from heath@localhost) by hardy.mskcc.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA13976; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:35:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Simon Heath Message-Id: <200007032235.SAA13976@hardy.mskcc.org> To: dg@root.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, heath@hardy.mskcc.org Subject: Re: Poor NFS performance with 4.0-stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>On moving from 4.0-release to 4.0-stable I'm getting a big slow down in file >>transfers over NFS. Previously it was taking about 8s to transfer a 64Mb >>file (100baseTX), so about 8Mb/sec. Now it's closer to 20k/sec... This is >>when accessing both NFS servers running FreeBSD 4.0-release and Solaris 8. >>Access speeds when the 4.0-stable machine is running as a server are also >>very slow. Access speeds between the other machines is at the 8Mb/sec >>level. Any suggestions as to what I should be looking at? The nic card is >>an Intel EtherExpress Pro, and there do not appear to be any relevant error >>messages in /var/log/messages or dmesg. Any suggestions gratefully >>received! > > Are any of the machines connected to a switch? Is the duplex detected >correctly on all of the ports involved? > Not sure - all machines are on the same subnet and connected to the same 'box'. ifconfig -a on the 'bad' machine shows media: autoselect (100baseTX) status: active which is the same that I'm getting on the other FreeBSD machines (running 4.0-release). Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 15:41:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hardy.mskcc.org (msk-130-20.mskcc.org [140.163.130.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4418637C16A for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:41:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from heath@hardy.mskcc.org) Received: (from heath@localhost) by hardy.mskcc.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA14003; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:40:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:40:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Simon Heath Message-Id: <200007032240.SAA14003@hardy.mskcc.org> To: dg@root.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, heath@hardy.mskcc.org Subject: Re: Poor NFS performance with 4.0-stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Are any of the machines connected to a switch? Is the duplex detected >correctly on all of the ports involved? > Ah OK - I forced it to full-duplex using ifconfig and it works fine - poerformance back up to previous levels. Thanks for the pointer; I should have checked that first, but because it had been working before I didn't think about it. Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 15:41:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3101.mail.yahoo.com (web3101.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B54B37C057 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:41:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000703224116.21315.qmail@web3101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [150.159.224.8] by web3101.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 15:41:16 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:41:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Resuming a failed build... To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I know the Handbook makes mention of using... cd /usr/src make -DNOCLEAN all when trying to resume an interrupted build. Is that still an acceptable method of building the world without having to deal with having the /usr/obj tree cleaned? This recent talk of "study hardware" reminded me to ask.. Thanks, -Richard __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 15:45:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80B937B50C for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:45:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA90982; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:45:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3961179A.6226118B@gorean.org> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 15:45:46 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0702 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Heath Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Poor NFS performance with 4.0-stable References: <200007032226.SAA13922@hardy.mskcc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Simon Heath wrote: > > Hi, > > On moving from 4.0-release to 4.0-stable I'm getting a big slow down in file > transfers over NFS. Previously it was taking about 8s to transfer a 64Mb > file (100baseTX), so about 8Mb/sec. Now it's closer to 20k/sec... This sounds like a nic configuration problem. Have you checked via ifconfig -a that your nic's on both sides are in their proper configuration? My guess is that the side that you upgraded has slipped into an improper setting somewhere. Good luck, Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 16: 5: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55BA37C0EB for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:04:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E243D137FC9 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:04:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14499; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:04:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) Message-ID: <14689.7192.751191.459635@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:04:56 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Gilbert To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: tracking down a number-of-interface problem. X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm still trying to track down a number-of-interface problem where having 20 interfaces will eventually crash the machine (with enough traffic going through) and 16 interfaces won't. I note that AF_MAX is 33 (as is PF_MAX) and AF_MAX is used to size several structures are sized to AF_MAX. Now... with 20 interfaces in my machine the message from "option BRIDGE" says that this generates 30 interfaces (I assume that this includes other automatically generated interfaces). Would generating more than 33 interfaces total bogify some structures allocated with AF_MAX? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 16:10:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front001.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A5337C0E3 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:10:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.7.99] (HELO foo) by front001.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 12601947; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 19:10:39 -0400 Message-ID: <002a01bfe543$e8426c60$0400a8c0@uhring.com> From: "David Uhring" To: "Richard Stanaford" , References: <20000703224125.968.qmail@web3106.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: XFree-4 installation on -STABLE Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:10:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Stanaford" To: Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 5:41 PM Subject: Re: XFree-4 installation on -STABLE > > I just wanna throw some caution out there. Make sure there is support for your > card before abandoning 3.3.6. I decided to RTFM before grabbing the 4.0 > binaries only to find out that most of the legacy stuff.. S3 and so on hasn't > been ported yet. It's a day to day thing, so the update said, but driver > support is still pretty spartan and in favor of the newer 3D cards. > > -Richard > > > > > --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Maxime Henrion wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I just wanted to install the Xfree86-4 port on my -STABLE system but > > > can i just do make , make install as i'm already running XFree86 3.3.6 ? > > > IMO, i should delete the old XFree before, but it's not a port. I chose > > > installing it during the installation of FreeBSD. > > > So, should i delete XFre86 3.3.6 and if so, how could i do ? I've > > > not seen any docs on the handbook on that topic. > > > > pkg_delete(1) > > > > Kris > > > > -- > > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > Hi all: I'm new to this forum and to trying to use -STABLE. I have implemented XFree86-4.0 on OpenBSD-2.7 Beta successfully. I simply overlaid the existing 3.3.6 installation with the new tarballs using XFree's installer. Their config programs fail to work. I have a Linux-Mandrake-7.1 install using their version of XFree86-4.0. Added some modelines to it (Mandrakes XF86Config didn't have any), put it into /etc and executed startx. I've presently lost the config file but will shortly rebuild it. If anyone is interested, I'll be glad to post it. My video card is an ATI Rage Pro, but the config file should be adaptable to any of the supported cards. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 16:21:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3105.mail.yahoo.com (web3105.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BEDD737B597 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:21:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000703232119.17091.qmail@web3105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [150.159.224.8] by web3105.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 16:21:19 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:21:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: XFree-4 installation on -STABLE To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to XFree86's webpages.. www.xfree86.org ... 4.0-RELEASE's design is fundamentally different from 3.3.x. You would probably do well to uninstall XFree86, saving your configs for reference, and then try 4.0 again. If I understand what I read last night, 4.0 was not intended to be an upgrade from 3.3.6. I think version 4.0.1 is going up on the servers now too, but I didn't see it on the mirror I was at last night. Check the news page for updates. -Richard --- David Uhring wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Stanaford" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 5:41 PM > Subject: Re: XFree-4 installation on -STABLE > > > > > > I just wanna throw some caution out there. Make sure there is support for > your > > card before abandoning 3.3.6. I decided to RTFM before grabbing the 4.0 > > binaries only to find out that most of the legacy stuff.. S3 and so on > hasn't > > been ported yet. It's a day to day thing, so the update said, but driver > > support is still pretty spartan and in favor of the newer 3D cards. > > > > -Richard > > > > > > > > > > --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Maxime Henrion wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I just wanted to install the Xfree86-4 port on my -STABLE system > but > > > > can i just do make , make install as i'm already running XFree86 3.3.6 > ? > > > > IMO, i should delete the old XFree before, but it's not a port. I > chose > > > > installing it during the installation of FreeBSD. > > > > So, should i delete XFre86 3.3.6 and if so, how could i do ? I've > > > > not seen any docs on the handbook on that topic. > > > > > > pkg_delete(1) > > > > > > Kris > > > > > > -- > > > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > > > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > > Hi all: > > I'm new to this forum and to trying to use -STABLE. I have implemented > XFree86-4.0 on OpenBSD-2.7 Beta successfully. I simply overlaid the > existing 3.3.6 installation with the new tarballs using XFree's installer. > Their config programs fail to work. I have a Linux-Mandrake-7.1 install > using their version of XFree86-4.0. Added some modelines to it (Mandrakes > XF86Config didn't have any), put it into /etc and executed startx. I've > presently lost the config file but will shortly rebuild it. If anyone is > interested, I'll be glad to post it. My video card is an ATI Rage Pro, but > the config file should be adaptable to any of the supported cards. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 16:24:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragonstar.dhs.org (dsl-028-a.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.161.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D591437B73C for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:24:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (jonsmith@localhost) by dragonstar.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01188; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:24:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:24:44 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Smith To: Richard Stanaford Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree-4 installation on -STABLE In-Reply-To: <20000703232119.17091.qmail@web3105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It "will" work to install "over" an existing copy.... I did that... Just remember that 4.0 doesn't have all the same pieces as 3.3.x, so you might have this or that hanging around that doesn't belong (AND WON'T WORK), j. -- Close your eyes. Now forget what you see. What do you feel? -- My heart. -- Come here. -- Your heart. -- See? We're exactly the same. Jon Smith -- Senior Math Major @ Purdue On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > According to XFree86's webpages.. www.xfree86.org ... 4.0-RELEASE's design is > fundamentally different from 3.3.x. You would probably do well to uninstall > XFree86, saving your configs for reference, and then try 4.0 again. > > If I understand what I read last night, 4.0 was not intended to be an upgrade > from 3.3.6. > > I think version 4.0.1 is going up on the servers now too, but I didn't see it > on the mirror I was at last night. Check the news page for updates. > > -Richard > > > > > > --- David Uhring wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Stanaford" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 5:41 PM > > Subject: Re: XFree-4 installation on -STABLE > > > > > > > > > > I just wanna throw some caution out there. Make sure there is support for > > your > > > card before abandoning 3.3.6. I decided to RTFM before grabbing the 4.0 > > > binaries only to find out that most of the legacy stuff.. S3 and so on > > hasn't > > > been ported yet. It's a day to day thing, so the update said, but driver > > > support is still pretty spartan and in favor of the newer 3D cards. > > > > > > -Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Maxime Henrion wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to install the Xfree86-4 port on my -STABLE system > > but > > > > > can i just do make , make install as i'm already running XFree86 3.3.6 > > ? > > > > > IMO, i should delete the old XFree before, but it's not a port. I > > chose > > > > > installing it during the installation of FreeBSD. > > > > > So, should i delete XFre86 3.3.6 and if so, how could i do ? I've > > > > > not seen any docs on the handbook on that topic. > > > > > > > > pkg_delete(1) > > > > > > > > Kris > > > > > > > > -- > > > > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > > > > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > > > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > > > > Hi all: > > > > I'm new to this forum and to trying to use -STABLE. I have implemented > > XFree86-4.0 on OpenBSD-2.7 Beta successfully. I simply overlaid the > > existing 3.3.6 installation with the new tarballs using XFree's installer. > > Their config programs fail to work. I have a Linux-Mandrake-7.1 install > > using their version of XFree86-4.0. Added some modelines to it (Mandrakes > > XF86Config didn't have any), put it into /etc and executed startx. I've > > presently lost the config file but will shortly rebuild it. If anyone is > > interested, I'll be glad to post it. My video card is an ATI Rage Pro, but > > the config file should be adaptable to any of the supported cards. > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 16:34:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C00137BA1A for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:34:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@earthlink.net) Received: from dialin-client.earthlink.net (pool0708.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.194.198]) by eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00869; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by dialin-client.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00320; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:30:45 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Brad Knowles Cc: Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fstab mount options Message-ID: <20000703163045.A248@dialin-client.earthlink.net> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <14689.1084.894512.504331@onceler.kcilink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from blk@skynet.be on Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 12:07:32AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 12:07:32AM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 5:23 PM -0400 2000/7/3, Vivek Khera wrote: > > > # allow CD-ROM and ZIP drive user-mounting. > > for i in /dev/*acd0* /cdrom /dev/*da0* /zip > > do > > chmod 0755 $i > > chown $USER $i > > done > > So, if you happen to have any regular fixed disks that are > /dev/*da0* (e.g., the ones that /, /usr, /var, etc... are on), you > will allow unprivileged users to mount them, presumably unmount them, > and otherwise muck about with them however they want?!? Moof! > > > I hope that this is on a machine that is effectively single-user > (i.e., just you), and not one that allows anyone else to ever log > in.... From the comment, I would say he has a SCSI Zip drive. The same line could apply to Jaz, an ancient Bernoull, or the like. The risk I see is does this method let users mount with setuid? -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 16:41: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 072A937BA40 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:40:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reader@newsguy.com) Received: (qmail 26150 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2000 23:40:57 -0000 Received: from adsl-117-113.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.117.113) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 3 Jul 2000 23:40:57 -0000 Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA18543; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:40:54 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fstab mount options References: <14689.1084.894512.504331@onceler.kcilink.com> From: Harry Putnam In-Reply-To: Vivek Khera's message of "Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:23:08 -0400 (EDT)" Date: 03 Jul 2000 16:40:36 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 31 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vivek Khera writes: > >>>>> "HP" == Harry Putnam writes: [...] > You need to turn on a sysctl to allow user mounts, then adjust file > permissions to allow specific file systems to be mounted by the user. > For example, from my Xstartup script (run by kdm): > [...] All the responses seem to deal with removable devices. A private poster pointed out that this question is asked repeated and is in the FAQ at: http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/admin.html#AEN2551 So I guess I've stepped into a FAQ, but this also deals with removable media. Its not clear if `sysctl' can be used on disk devices too. I didn't mention it in my original post but I mainly wanted to allow users to mount a dos partition. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 16:42: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9572C37C1B0 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:41:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA82026 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:33:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:33:29 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: [Conspectus] -stable, week ending 12th June 2000 Message-ID: <20000704003329.A81853@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ Posting on behalf of Salvo Bartolotta, who did all the hard work. See http://www.FreeBSD.org/conspectus/index.html for more information. To contribute, contact doc@FreeBSD.org -- N ] FreeBSD-stable Conspectus, week ending 12th June 2000 Dates # Posts Subject June 06 - 07 June 2 HEADS UP: More important Vinum information June 09 - June 09 1 HEADS UP: OpenSSH 2.1.0 merge June 08 - June 08 1 "sbsize" path for testing!! June 08 - June 08 1 [PATCH] psmintr out of sync.. June 08 - June 08 1 PS/2 mouse driver updates - can someone commit these? June 07 - June 07 2 4.0-STABLE crashes ...(SMP?) June 07 - June 10 9 Inetd problems June 08 - June 09 9 APC Back-UPS Pro June 11 - June 12 5 Re: AHA 1542 CP Configuration problems June 09 - June 09 2 linprocfs June 06 - June 07 3 ABIT BE6-II(hpt366) & ata in -stable June 07- June 07 5 Passive mode for FTP --------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 06 - June 07 (2 posts): HEADS UP: More important Vinum information No sooner had [Greg Lehey] fixed a Vinum bug than he found out another. The next day, he added that his /src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumrevive.c commit (to -CURRENT) would probably solve the problem -- he was still testing. On June 7, 2000, Greg announced that he had just merged with 4.0-STABLE the fixes for the RAID-5 revive corruption bug. He strongly recommended 4.0-STABLE and 5-CURRENT users to update as soon as possible, and, until then, not to attempt anything on RAID-5 plexes that had lost (or would lose) a subdisk. Finally, he promised that he would very soon commit a large MFC to 3-STABLE so that the matter might be settled for that branch as well. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 09 - June 09 (1 posts): HEADS UP: OpenSSH 2.1.0 merge On June 9, 2000, [Kris Kennaway] proclaimed that he had merged with -stable the OpenSSH 2.1.0 code from -current. He also provided the following information: The major new feature of OpenSSH 2.x is support for the SSH2 protocol and DSA keys, freeing it from the dependency on RSAREF for USA people. It interoperates well with the ssh2 port and other SSH2 clients/servers - see http://www.openssh.com for more interop details. Another new feature is support for OPIE passwords in SSH1 mode. Missing from OpenSSH 2.1.0 is support for OPIE and Kerberos in SSH2 mode, which will be hopefully added later. For more information on how to use OpenSSH 2.1, see the manpages, the file /usr/src/crypto/openssh/README.openssh2 and www.openssh.com. Server DSA key generation is automatic the next time you boot with sshd_enable=YES in rc.conf, or you can do it by hand (see the above README). Owing to some syntax errors, the OpenSSH MFC caused a temporary breach of -STABLE; the difficulty, however, was soon overcome. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 08 - June 08 (1 posts): "sbsize" path for testing!! On June 8, 2000, [Brian Fundakowski Feldman] made the following announcement: Per request of users and the security officer, I've backported the changes from 4.0/5.0 which allow administrative control over the socket resources a user can allocate. I need testers to get this done before 3.5-RELEASE, as my crash-box is -CURRENT. I think I have caught all of the problematic parts of the code and merged things correctly, so I do not _expect_ anything to go wrong. The big problem is that people are using the DoS (indeed, it has just been reposted on BugTraq for some unknown reason), and something must be done to prevent a user from crashing the system like that. Changing the limit is as easy as modifying /etc/login.conf, and a default value should be in place. I don't know what the default value should be, so I invite estimates on how much socket buffer space a user really needs. The patch, which will necessitate both a make world and new kernel/ modules build, is located at: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~green/ sbsize_etc.RELENG_3.patch. In addition to the sbsize change, there's a relatively minor change to struct socket which does break binary compatibility of kernel modules if they use that member (so_cred). Anything groveling in the kernel memory, like pidentd, would need to be recompiled/modified, but pidentd itself (now uses the proper interface to get the data it needs. So, anyone who can, test it out and report back. I need to get this done within the week or so :) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 08 - June 08 (1 posts): [PATCH] psmintr out of sync.. On June 8, 2000, [Kazutaka Yokota] posted a patch for the psm driver. The "diff" in question, as Kazutaka pointed out, was not intended for the "psmintr out of sync" issue; furthermore, it needed testing; finally, it had been designed with more general goals in mind. Incidentally, [Peter Radcliffe], in a letter of his, described another approach to the psmintr out of sync problem: My workaround for this, for the moment, is to use the serial adaptor that came with the mouse and use it on the first serial port. Works fine, but somewhat annoying to lose a serial port ... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 08 - June 08 (1 posts): PS/2 mouse driver updates - can someone commit these? [Graham Wheeler] modified the psm driver to supply support for the Synaptics touch pads, and posted his patches on June 8, 2000. He noticed that, in some respects, his code seemed to behave even better than Synaptics' driver. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 07 - June 07 (2 posts): 4.0-STABLE crashes ...(SMP?) On June 7, 2000, [Jesper Skriver] wrote that his -STABLE SMP system -- sources as of June 2 -- had been crashing regularly. He said that he had kernel crash dumps, too. I have been reading about SMP crashes in the -stable forum for several weeks ; at the moment, I do not know about results or solutions, though. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 07 - June 10 (9 posts): Inetd problems [Vladimir Egorin] had been recording a number of inetd coredumps for the previous few weeks, and requested the -stable forum to help. It turned out that the coredumps were due to underscore characters in remote hostnames. Vladimir submitted a bug report as well as patches. Next, he asked: BTW, should the '_' character be considered a valid character for a hostname? I think rfc1034 only gives recommendations, but doesn't insist on them. It would make sense for gethostbyname() to return results for such hosts. In our case, we inetd was receiving connections to the smtp port, and and we were losing mail from this particular host (mail_dxb.zu.ac.ae). [Chad Larson] replied: I can't quote you references right now, but we came to the conclusion that the '_' character was invalid in host names. We had similar problems delivering reports to customer's networked printers that contained underscores in their names. We eventually got the customer to change the '_' to '-'. [Peter Radcliffe] stated: "_" is not a valid character in a name in the IN zone of DNS but is not invalid in DNS, strictly. Valid characters in the IN zone are [0-9a-zA-Z-]. bind used to allow _ in names by default, so pople used them. More recent versions of bind disallow this in primary zones by default (but you can turn it off in case you arn't serving IN zones) but to only warn about it in secondary zones. It's going to take a long time to get rid of all the entries containing "_" out there, so expect to have to deal with it :/ [Cy Schubert] remarked: The standard was changed about 5 years ago. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 08 - June 09 (9 posts): APC Back-UPS Pro While running an APC Back-UPS Pro with upsd in the default configuration, [Andrew Tulloch] saw messages such as: upsd[355]: apc_tune: negative repsonse: N upsd[355]: apc_tune: negative repsonse: ^M upsd[355]: apc_tune: negative repsonse: ^M upsd[355]: apc_tune: negative repsonse: N upsd[355]: apc_tune: negative repsonse: NO upsd[355]: apc_tune: negative repsonse: NO [Doug White] answered: That looks like either the UPS or upsd getting confused as to where to expect responses. Check your config and make sure you aren't adding extra spaces. I woudn't discount that the APC is doing wierd serial things -- it always seemed flakey to me when I was working on upsd. upsd hasn't been touched in years so it's possible it still has bugs :) On a related note, [Dan Larsson] wrote: I had similar troubles on a Smart-UPS using the port /usr/ports/ sysutils/nut The problem however seemed to reside in the source used when building the port After doing a 'manual' build of the very latest source the problem was fixed. [Nate Williams], replying to Andres's letter, commented: You can safely ignore this. I've got a system that sees these and has been running for almost 3 years w/out any problems, and actually has had do the 'UPS' shutdown thing once or twice, plus it's lived through thousands of brownouts and power failures. The following day, the discussion focused on the security aspect in an environment composed of multiple machines running off one ups. Doug White put forward this remark: The problem with this is doing it securely. You can have one monitor machine but having some automated way of telling the others to shutdown that can't be tricked is a tough problem. ssh with a null-passphrase RSA key is about as close as you can get, but that doesn't keep root on one machine from telling the others to shutdown, but that may not be a problem in your environment :) [Shawn Barnhart] rejoined: It seems like it would be safer for a client machine to poll the UPS-monitoring server for power status vs. having the monitoring server alert its clients to do something like shut down. On the more sophisticated end you could do it as an SNMP trap, or you could just write the UPS status to a file on the monitoring box and the clients could fetch the status periodically and make their own decisions about what to do when the power went off. [Matthew Dodd] concluded the conversation by observing: Isn't this what 'NUT' is for? http://www.exploits.org/nut/ /usr/ports/sysutils/nut The next day, [Donald Fast], reminded Shawn that one could also use the multi-computer option, which can be found at this address, and then each machine could decide on its own. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 11 - June 12 (5 posts): Re: AHA 1542 CP Configuration problems [Jim Manley] had trouble with the configuration of his AHA1542CP SCSI adapter. [Brian Somers] sent him a patch, and told him that disabling the PnP probe should make the patch (and the adapter) work. [Warner Losh] was also informed (cc'ed) of that. Brian hypothesized that the difficulties, which seemed to arise under special circumstances, were due to some other PnP entry inducing a probe that the AHA found intrusive. He promised that he would investigate as soon as he found time. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 09 - June 09 (2 posts): linprocfs [Jonathan Perkin] was able to build the latest linprocfs commits, but he found an error related to textvp_fullpath (not defined). [David Malone] replied that someone had already sent a PR, that the question had been assigned to DES, and that the function textvp_fullpath simply needed to be MFCed. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 06 - June 07 (3 posts): ABIT BE6-II(hpt366) & ata in -stable [Andrey Lavrentyev] experienced a dreadful plight in trying to make his board function. Subsequently, he got rid of his woes: I resolved my problem (see subj), was test some ata/66 disks & controllers... Summary: this problems in hardware combinations various udma controllers and disks vendors, but this wasn't shock for me, i was very surprise after disk tests: disks run in pio-mode faster than in dma. :) PS. sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,...,pio, resolved udma problems. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 07 - June 07 (5 posts): Passive mode for FTP On June 7, 2000, [Stephen Montgomery-Smith] was wondering how to properly configure ftp (passive mode) so that it might correctly operate behind a firewall. At first, he thought that passive mode was broken, but, in an ensuing letter, he made it clear that it was not the case: Suppose I do: ftp ftp.freebsd.org and log on as anonymous. When I type ls I get the messages 500 'EPSV': command not understood. 500 'LPSV': command not understood. Passive mode refused. This worked in earler versions of FreeBSD 4.0, even when I had a firewall. [James Housley] suggested: This is from /etc/login.conf: default:\ :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ :welcome=/etc/motd:\ :setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K,FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=NO:\ I changed FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES to NO and all was right in the world Don't forget cap_mkdb. [Charles Sprickman] went on to say: If you pull the IPV6 stuff out of your kernel, ftp seems to work fine, I assume it must "ifdef" the problematic parts of the ftp program out. I have a number of machines running -stable and have no problems, but I also always comment out the v6 stuff. cap_mkdb is to be run like so whenever you've changed login.conf: "cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf". You will have to log out (all the way to the login prompt if you're at the console) and log back in for changes to take effect. A reboot should not be necessary. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- * The present Conspectus expresses my strictly personal understanding of what occurred on the FreeBSD-stable mailing list during the specified week. * I may have made errors and/or mistakes as well as typos. If you feel that this is indeed the case, and/or that I have omitted some significant thread or part of a thread, feel free to contact me via email. Constructive criticism is more than welcome. Salvo Bartolotta To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 17:30:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front002.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA7937C23D for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.7.99] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front002.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 12309064 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 20:29:14 -0400 From: David Uhring To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree-4 installation on -STABLE Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:23:30 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-=_nWlrBbmQBhCDarzOwKkYHIDdqSCD" References: <396104A3.A89E07F@cybercable.fr> In-Reply-To: <396104A3.A89E07F@cybercable.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00070319300800.00719@dave.uhring.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Boundary-=_nWlrBbmQBhCDarzOwKkYHIDdqSCD Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, Maxime Henrion wrote: > Hi, > > I just wanted to install the Xfree86-4 port on my -STABLE system but > can i just do make , make install as i'm already running XFree86 3.3.6 ? > IMO, i should delete the old XFree before, but it's not a port. I chose > installing it during the installation of FreeBSD. > So, should i delete XFre86 3.3.6 and if so, how could i do ? I've > not seen any docs on the handbook on that topic. > > Thanks for your help ! > > - Maxime Henrion > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Since there seems to be some interest, I rebooted to Linux and found the config file that worked with OpenBSD and XFree86-4.0. I'm patiently awaiting the binaries. When 4.0 was released in binary form, FreeBSD's was the first posted. Maybe we'll get lucky again. I'll include the file is this post and attach it so than anyone can save it. It surely will be necessary to edit it; it was set up for OpenBSD. Good luck with it. Dave # File generated by XFdrake. # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging #NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. #DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. #DontZoom # This allows the server to start up even if the # mouse device can't be opened/initialised. AllowMouseOpenFail EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Keyboard section # ********************************************************************** Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "Keyboard" Option "AutoRepeat" "250 30" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" # Option "Emulate3Buttons" # Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50" # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # Option "ChordMiddle" EndSection Section "Module" # This loads the DBE extension module. Load "dbe" Load "glx" # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. SubSection "extmod" Option "omit xfree86-dga" EndSubSection # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules Load "type1" Load "freetype" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic|Non-Interlaced SVGA, 1024x768 at 60 Hz, 800x600 at 72 Hz" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown" # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 31.5-70 # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 55-90 # 800x600 @ 100 Hz, 64.02 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 69.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 -HSync -VSync # 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823 # 1152x864 @ 70 Hz, 62.4 kHz hsync Modeline "1152x864" 92 1152 1208 1368 1474 864 865 875 895 # 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054 EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** Section "Device" Identifier "Generic VGA" Driver "vga" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "ATI Mach64" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Driver "ati" VideoRam 8192 # Clock lines # Uncomment following option if you see a big white block # instead of the cursor! #Option "sw_cursor" Option "power_saver" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** Section "Screen" Identifier "screen1" Device "ATI Mach64" Monitor "Generic|Non-Interlaced SVGA, 1024x768 at 60 Hz, 800x600 at 72 Hz" DefaultColorDepth 16 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "layout1" Screen "screen1" InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection --Boundary-=_nWlrBbmQBhCDarzOwKkYHIDdqSCD Content-Type: text/english; name="XF86Config.4.obsd" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="XF86Config.4.obsd" # File generated by XFdrake. # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging #NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. #DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. #DontZoom # This allows the server to start up even if the # mouse device can't be opened/initialised. AllowMouseOpenFail EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Keyboard section # ********************************************************************** Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "Keyboard" Option "AutoRepeat" "250 30" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" # Option "Emulate3Buttons" # Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50" # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # Option "ChordMiddle" EndSection Section "Module" # This loads the DBE extension module. Load "dbe" Load "glx" # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. SubSection "extmod" Option "omit xfree86-dga" EndSubSection # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules Load "type1" Load "freetype" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic|Non-Interlaced SVGA, 1024x768 at 60 Hz, 800x600 at 72 Hz" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown" # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 31.5-70 # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 55-90 # 800x600 @ 100 Hz, 64.02 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 69.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 -HSync -VSync # 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823 # 1152x864 @ 70 Hz, 62.4 kHz hsync Modeline "1152x864" 92 1152 1208 1368 1474 864 865 875 895 # 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054 EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** Section "Device" Identifier "Generic VGA" Driver "vga" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "ATI Mach64" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Driver "ati" VideoRam 8192 # Clock lines # Uncomment following option if you see a big white block # instead of the cursor! #Option "sw_cursor" Option "power_saver" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** Section "Screen" Identifier "screen1" Device "ATI Mach64" Monitor "Generic|Non-Interlaced SVGA, 1024x768 at 60 Hz, 800x600 at 72 Hz" DefaultColorDepth 16 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "layout1" Screen "screen1" InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection --Boundary-=_nWlrBbmQBhCDarzOwKkYHIDdqSCD-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 18: 6:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC3B37B73C; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29139; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:06:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03268; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:06:02 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200007040106.LAA03268@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: David Malone Cc: Kris Kennaway , John Hay , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: International Crypto/ssh broked yet again by deletion of rsa_eay.c,v In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 03 Jul 2000 11:05:47 +0100. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 11:06:02 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just done another cvsup and it looks like rsa_eay.c has been added back to the cvs-crypto collection. It looks like it's all fixed; I'm running a buildworld so I should have a definitive answer sometime this afternoon. Thanks all. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 18:56:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (mg136-135.ricochet.net [204.179.136.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AF037C1DB for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00532; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:58:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007040158.SAA00532@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 02 Jul 2000 16:25:14 EDT." <14687.42282.873585.2561@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 18:58:13 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have a PIII/450 with a venerable Adaptec 2940UW and a Quantum 9G > SCSI disk. > > Recenly, I was generating many crash dumps and was using a serial > console (so I was watching them). I came to a point in my debugging > where I needed another PCI slot, so I removed the 2940 and loaded an > IDE drive with the same build of FreeBSD. > > I then noticed that the IDE would crashdump somewhere around 10 times > faster than the SCSI disk. > > Why? Can the SCSI speed be improved? IDE disks typically default to write-cache enabled (the drive returns the command as complete as soon as it's given to the drive), while SCSI disks default to write-cache disabled (the drive doesn't return the command as complete until it's hit the media). In the dump context, this means that with a SCSI disk you spend a lot of time waiting for this back-and-forth handshaking, which you don't get with IDE disks. If you have the WCE bit set on the drive in question, it will go faster. The fact that SCSI commands are more expensive than IDE commands is also significant given that dump I/O is performed one page at a time. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 19:33:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.kpi.com.au (www.kpi.com.au [203.39.132.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EF137C358 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:33:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johnsa@kpi.com.au) Received: from kpi.com.au (ws03.kpi.com.au [203.39.132.216]) by www.kpi.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA34010; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 12:33:12 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from johnsa@kpi.com.au) Message-ID: <39614D4F.D4DD6469@kpi.com.au> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 12:34:55 +1000 From: Andrew Johns Organization: KPI Logistics Pty. Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dan O'Connor" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: securing the boot process (again?!?) References: <017c01bfe541$98611f40$0200000a@danco> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dan O'Connor wrote: > > >I have been trying to secure (a bit) the boot process of a 4.0-STABLE > >machine that is located in a public place. > > > >I need to use the floppy disk, but if I disable it from the BIOS I get > >no access to it under FreeBSD. So I set the boot sequence to "C only" > >but if I press space while the initial hyphen is displayed i get a > >prompt with no password being requested. (Note I have set a password > >in /boot/loader.conf, and set the console to "insecure" in /etc/ttys) > > > >The problem is I can boot any kernel or loader, including a kernel off > >the floppy drive [just type fd(0,a)/evilkernel at the prompt]. From > >there to a setuid(12345) that yields uid=0 (patched kernel, remember?) > >is just a small step. Any ideas for further improvement of the boot > >process security? > > Doesn't your computer have a BIOS password? These are typically invoked > *before* the BIOS tries to boot off any disk... Unfortunately BIOS passwords can be disabled on the motherboard in a matter of minutes (for most motherboards that I know of). Even Dell laptops (don't know about their desktops/servers) have a master password that Dell will give you if you call them, provided you give them some details first. Regards ---------------------\=-_ _-=/ Andrew Johns BSc. \ \==/ / Principal Consultant \ / KPI Logistics Pty Ltd \ / mailto:johnsa@kpi.com.au \ +/ http://www.kpi.com.au \/ How do I set this laser printer to stun? My favourite boot labels: F1 Real OS -> http://www.FreeBSD.org F2 Pretend OS -> http://www.microsoft.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 20:23:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530E137BAA2 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:23:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43284137F14 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA36878; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:23:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14689.22689.894466.908666@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:23:13 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been told that the MTU of 1500 bytes is hardcoded into the 10Mb ethernet standard. Fine. But a number of devices seem to allow for MTUs > 1500 on 100Mb ethernet... and several people have told me that the standard allows for packets bigger than 1500 bytes. Specifically, this seems to be the case to allow VLAN trunking with larger than 1496 MTUs which is the cause of much frustration among some of my DSL users. However, it appears impossible to set an MTU larger than 1500 on a FreeBSD ethernet interface. Is this hard to change? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 20:39:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cs.waikato.ac.nz (taupo.cs.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.248.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C59837B5E7 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:39:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joerg@cs.waikato.ac.nz) Received: (from joerg@localhost) by cs.waikato.ac.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA61875; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:39:14 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from joerg) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:39:14 +1200 From: Joerg Micheel To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? Message-ID: <20000704153914.C60136@cs.waikato.ac.nz> References: <14689.22689.894466.908666@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <14689.22689.894466.908666@trooper.velocet.net>; from dgilbert@velocet.ca on Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 11:23:13PM -0400 Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand Project: WAND - Waikato Applied Network Dynamics, DAG Operating-System: ... powered by FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 11:23:13PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > But a number of devices seem to allow for MTUs > 1500 on 100Mb > ethernet... and several people have told me that the standard allows > for packets bigger than 1500 bytes. The limit is 1536. That is hex 0x600, a value of importance if using 802.x networks. A value below 0x600 indicates the length of an additional header in the EtherType field. If this value is above 0x600 it indicates a certain protocol (such as 0x800 for IP, 0x806 for IP ARP). I would not twiddle with the settings, the extra gain is very low and you'll face all sorts of compatibility issues with devices not supporting it. Joerg -- Joerg B. Micheel Email: Waikato Applied Network Dynamics Phone: +64 7 8384794 The University of Waikato, CompScience Fax: +64 7 8585095 Private Bag 3105 Pager: +64 868 38222 Hamilton, New Zealand Plan: TINE and the DAG's To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 20:43:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mostgraveconcern.com (mostgraveconcern.com [216.82.145.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE6237BAD0 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:43:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@mostgraveconcern.com) Received: from danco (danco.mostgraveconcern.com [10.0.0.2]) by mostgraveconcern.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA39405; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:43:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@mostgraveconcern.com) Message-ID: <0d8b01bfe56a$0c01c580$0200000a@danco> Reply-To: "Dan O'Connor" From: "Dan O'Connor" To: "Andrew Johns" Cc: Subject: Re: securing the boot process (again?!?) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:43:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Doesn't your computer have a BIOS password? These are typically invoked >> *before* the BIOS tries to boot off any disk... > >Unfortunately BIOS passwords can be disabled on the motherboard in a matter >of minutes (for most motherboards that I know of). Even Dell laptops (don't >know about their desktops/servers) have a master password that Dell will give >you if you call them, provided you give them some details first. Looks like there's not really much you can do if you can't physically secure the machine. Even all the other tricks, boot only from hard drive, setting the delay to '0', are pointless if someone can get inside the hardware case, change jumpers, get into the BIOS and turn on boot from floppy and then boot from a floppy. On the other hand, if someone has the opportunity to do all that, they might as well just steal the whole box... Moral of the story: either secure the machine in a location where malicious users can't get to it or take the consequences. --Dan -- Dan O'Connor On Matters of Most Grave Concern http://www.mostgraveconcern.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 20:44:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7693537BAD0 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:44:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D89137FBC; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA38684; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:43:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14689.23903.87264.511506@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:43:27 -0400 (EDT) To: Joerg Micheel Cc: David Gilbert , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? In-Reply-To: <20000704153914.C60136@cs.waikato.ac.nz> References: <14689.22689.894466.908666@trooper.velocet.net> <20000704153914.C60136@cs.waikato.ac.nz> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Joerg" == Joerg Micheel writes: Joerg> On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 11:23:13PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: >> But a number of devices seem to allow for MTUs > 1500 on 100Mb >> ethernet... and several people have told me that the standard >> allows for packets bigger than 1500 bytes. Joerg> The limit is 1536. That is hex 0x600, a value of importance if Joerg> using 802.x networks. A value below 0x600 indicates the length Joerg> of an additional header in the EtherType field. If this value Joerg> is above 0x600 it indicates a certain protocol (such as 0x800 Joerg> for IP, 0x806 for IP ARP). Joerg> I would not twiddle with the settings, the extra gain is very Joerg> low and you'll face all sorts of compatibility issues with Joerg> devices not supporting it. Well... all I'm looking for is the ability to set 1504 on the etnernet device so that 1500 byte packets will pass on the VLANs. But at least the "dc" driver ignores MTUs larger than 1500. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 20:53:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0585E37BD08 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:53:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA03131; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:53:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200007040353.XAA03131@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: David Gilbert Cc: Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? References: <14689.22689.894466.908666@trooper.velocet.net> <20000704153914.C60136@cs.waikato.ac.nz> <14689.23903.87264.511506@trooper.velocet.net> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 03 Jul 2000 23:43:27 EDT." <14689.23903.87264.511506@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 23:53:20 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >>>>> "Joerg" == Joerg Micheel writes: > > Joerg> On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 11:23:13PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > >> But a number of devices seem to allow for MTUs > 1500 on 100Mb > >> ethernet... and several people have told me that the standard > >> allows for packets bigger than 1500 bytes. > > Joerg> The limit is 1536. That is hex 0x600, a value of importance if > Joerg> using 802.x networks. A value below 0x600 indicates the length > Joerg> of an additional header in the EtherType field. If this value > Joerg> is above 0x600 it indicates a certain protocol (such as 0x800 > Joerg> for IP, 0x806 for IP ARP). > > Joerg> I would not twiddle with the settings, the extra gain is very > Joerg> low and you'll face all sorts of compatibility issues with > Joerg> devices not supporting it. > > Well... all I'm looking for is the ability to set 1504 on the etnernet > device so that 1500 byte packets will pass on the VLANs. But at least > the "dc" driver ignores MTUs larger than 1500. There's some confusion here, because the MTU is typically associated with a protocol stack like IP and refers to the largest sized (IP in this case) packet that can be sent on the network interface. In the case of Ethernet interfaces that support and use VLAN tags, the MTU is still 1500 bytes, regardless of the fact that the frame size is a few bytes longer to accomodate the VLAN tag information. So, this has no effect on the Ethernet type field (or 802.3 length fields) since the higher level protocol packet size is unchanged. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 21:37:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831E437BA98 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:37:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFB4137FD2; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:37:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA43810; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:37:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14689.27160.907313.347624@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:37:44 -0400 (EDT) To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: David Gilbert , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? In-Reply-To: <200007040353.XAA03131@whizzo.transsys.com> References: <14689.22689.894466.908666@trooper.velocet.net> <20000704153914.C60136@cs.waikato.ac.nz> <14689.23903.87264.511506@trooper.velocet.net> <200007040353.XAA03131@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Louis" == Louis A Mamakos writes: Louis> There's some confusion here, because the MTU is typically Louis> associated with a protocol stack like IP and refers to the Louis> largest sized (IP in this case) packet that can be sent on the Louis> network interface. In the case of Ethernet interfaces that Louis> support and use VLAN tags, the MTU is still 1500 bytes, Louis> regardless of the fact that the frame size is a few bytes Louis> longer to accomodate the VLAN tag information. Louis> So, this has no effect on the Ethernet type field (or 802.3 Louis> length fields) since the higher level protocol packet size is Louis> unchanged. Why, then, are the vlan MTUs hardwired at 1496? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 22: 3:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B9B37B519; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:03:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA24047; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:03:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA35597; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:03:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007040503.WAA35597@vashon.polstra.com> To: kris@freebsd.org Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd/RSAPrivateDecrypt problems after make world In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Dan Langille wrote: > > As for src-crypto-rsa, it appears that /usr/share/examples/cvsup/secure- > > supfile needs to include that collection. I just added it to my supfile, > > resupped, and starting the build world again. > > > > Is any action being taken to resolve this issue? It's going to catch out > > a lot of people. > > Yes, I'm hoping Peter will fix it soon. I don't know why he didn't revert > the change once he realised it was not the correct way :-( It has been fixed now. The file in question is back in its original collection, and the src-crypto-rsa collection is gone. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 22: 8:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FDC37BB0A for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:08:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA59763; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 01:08:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200007040508.BAA59763@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: David Gilbert Cc: Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? References: <14689.22689.894466.908666@trooper.velocet.net> <20000704153914.C60136@cs.waikato.ac.nz> <14689.23903.87264.511506@trooper.velocet.net> <200007040353.XAA03131@whizzo.transsys.com> <14689.27160.907313.347624@trooper.velocet.net> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Jul 2000 00:37:44 EDT." <14689.27160.907313.347624@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 01:08:36 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >>>>> "Louis" == Louis A Mamakos writes: > > Louis> There's some confusion here, because the MTU is typically > Louis> associated with a protocol stack like IP and refers to the > Louis> largest sized (IP in this case) packet that can be sent on the > Louis> network interface. In the case of Ethernet interfaces that > Louis> support and use VLAN tags, the MTU is still 1500 bytes, > Louis> regardless of the fact that the frame size is a few bytes > Louis> longer to accomodate the VLAN tag information. > > Louis> So, this has no effect on the Ethernet type field (or 802.3 > Louis> length fields) since the higher level protocol packet size is > Louis> unchanged. > > Why, then, are the vlan MTUs hardwired at 1496? You got me. Perhaps the code is busted. Perhaps the code is trying to accomodate ethernet NICs that cannot send or receive larger than "normal" ethernet frames. (e.g., those with VLAN tags or priority labels). I just know that on networks that I've built and used with Ethernet switches which use VLAN tagging, I've had no problems transporting 1500 byte MTU IP packets inside of ethernet frames. If the NIC card in the FreeBSD host can't send the larger frames to accomodate the VLAN tags, then it's broken. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 23:15: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.comnet.bg (ns.comnet.bg [212.5.158.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD95F37B778 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:14:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Hristo@BGINFO.NET) Received: from BGINFO.NET (rojen.comnet.bg [212.5.158.12]) by ns.comnet.bg (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e646Gs921788 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 09:16:55 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <3961801D.C6793366@BGINFO.NET> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 09:11:41 +0300 From: Hristo Grigorov X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i586) X-Accept-Language: bg, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: stale FS getpages Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F7B4CA3642A7B704B4B7CAA1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F7B4CA3642A7B704B4B7CAA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is what I found in my kernel log file... May someone tell me in few words what does it mean and is it dangerous ? The system is 4.0-STABLE Mon Jun 19 13:23:02 EEST 2000 > vnode_pager: *** WARNING *** stale FS getpages > No strategy for buffer at 0xc69f0d50 > : 0xce8ff000: type VREG, usecount 4, writecount 0, refcount 0, flags (VOBJBUF) > tag VT_PROCFS, type 7, pid 8685, mode 180, flags 0 > : 0xce8ff000: type VREG, usecount 4, writecount 0, refcount 0, flags (VOBJBUF) > tag VT_PROCFS, type 7, pid 8685, mode 180, flags 0 > vnode_pager_getpages: I/O read error > vm_fault: pager read error, pid 8685 (midc) > pid 8685 (midc), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) --------------F7B4CA3642A7B704B4B7CAA1 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=koi8-r; name="Hristo.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Hristo Grigorov Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Hristo.vcf" begin:vcard n:Grigorov;Hristo tel;home:+359 56 685051 tel;work:+359 56 840644 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;Slaveikov 16-3-2;Burgas;;8000;BULGARIA version:2.1 email;internet:Hristo@BGINFO.NET title: note;quoted-printable:Occupation info might not be valid=0D=0Aalready! x-mozilla-cpt:;-15040 fn:Hristo Grigorov end:vcard --------------F7B4CA3642A7B704B4B7CAA1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 23:56:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pciway.com (d83b4646.dsl.flashcom.net [216.59.70.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF9537BFE8 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:56:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from loren@pciway.com) Received: from localhost (loren@localhost) by pciway.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA43699 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:59:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from loren@pciway.com) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:59:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Loren Koss To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: making modules.. In-Reply-To: <3961801D.C6793366@BGINFO.NET> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I used CVSUP to get the source.. I'm follwing the 3.x to 4.0 upgrade file. After building the new kernel, it says to build the modules. Well, it looks like the CVSUP didn't grab the modules. In each of the directories under .../modules is just a Makefile. So.. It fails. What did I do wrong?? Thanks Loren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 0:11:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B09A37B775 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:11:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.100]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:12:57 -0700 Message-ID: <39618E01.A0841734@3-cities.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 00:10:57 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loren Koss Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making modules.. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Loren Koss wrote: > > I used CVSUP to get the source.. I'm follwing the 3.x to 4.0 upgrade > file. After building the new kernel, it says to build the modules. Well, > it looks like the CVSUP didn't grab the modules. In each of the > directories under .../modules is just a Makefile. So.. It fails. What > did I do wrong?? That is all I have under my .../modules. Did you do a "make install" from .../modules? Kent > > Thanks > Loren > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 0:20:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sohara.dyndns.org (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.13.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A81D37C161 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:20:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@sohara.dyndns.org) Received: (from steve@localhost) by sohara.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00249; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 08:27:09 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from steve) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <003e01bfe4ec$2e813e20$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 08:27:09 +0100 (IST) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Greg Work Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 03-Jul-00 Greg Work wrote: > Hey Steve... > > do you mean loader as in BootEasy (or whatever it is called) or just prior > to the "twirling baton" stage? The latter, just after the Boot: prompt. The easy way is to put one line with /kernel in /boot.config (new file probably). Make sure you're kernel works without help from /boot/kernel.conf, as that file is loaded by loader. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 0:38:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smople.thehub.com.au (smople.thehub.com.au [203.143.240.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2E637B56E for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:38:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mckay@thehub.com.au) Received: from dungeon.home (bne45.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.45]) by smople.thehub.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA42275; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 17:38:34 +1000 (EST) Received: from dungeon.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dungeon.home (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16962; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 17:40:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from mckay) Message-Id: <200007040740.RAA16962@dungeon.home> To: Andreas Persson Cc: mckay@thehub.com.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: microuptime() going backwards Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 17:40:15 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andreas Persson wrote: >On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 08:21:18PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: >>I explained this to you at Usenix, actually. It has nothing to do with >>APM, it has to do with the selection of clocks available with/without APM >>compiled into the kernel - there is probably either a bug in the TSC >>hardware on this CPU, or (more likely) a bug in the timecounter code >>(since people see this on !APM systems already). > >Setting the sysctl kern.timecounter.method to 1 seems to have solved this >on one of my 4.0-RELEASE boxes. No microuptime() messages for almost 3 >weeks now. This didn't help me. I have an Athlon 700 on an EPOX 7KXA. I had apm compiled in but disabled. The microuptime messages made work impossible. I tried kern.timecounter.method=1 but the problem continued as long as kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254. When I removed apm totally, FreeBSD started using the CPU's TSC register (ie kern.timecounter.hardware=TSC) and my problems went away. Broken (chipset emulated) 8254 hardware? Or broken time code? I don't know yet. Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 1:35:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F5D37B5A5 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 01:35:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FDF18192; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:34:07 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000703163045.A248@dialin-client.earthlink.net> References: <14689.1084.894512.504331@onceler.kcilink.com> <20000703163045.A248@dialin-client.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 09:54:32 +0200 To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: fstab mount options Cc: Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 4:30 PM -0700 2000/7/3, Crist J. Clark wrote: > From the comment, I would say he has a SCSI Zip drive. The same line > could apply to Jaz, an ancient Bernoull, or the like. > > The risk I see is does this method let users mount with setuid? Right, but if he had any other SCSI disks on the system (such as the disk with /, /usr, /var, etc...), wouldn't this also allow them to be mounted & unmounted as desired by the user? Certainly if you're talking about your own laptop or dedicated desktop machine, the rules can be relaxed somewhat. However, in general this just seems to be a particularly unsafe practice. That is, unless I've missed something fundamental? -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 1:36:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A08937B6D5; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 01:36:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F2A1823B; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:34:12 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200007040503.WAA35597@vashon.polstra.com> References: <200007040503.WAA35597@vashon.polstra.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:02:17 +0200 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kris@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: sshd/RSAPrivateDecrypt problems after make world Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:03 PM -0700 2000/7/3, John Polstra wrote: > It has been fixed now. The file in question is back in its original > collection, and the src-crypto-rsa collection is gone. On a related question -- I've got a 4.0-STABLE machine that I recently cvsup'ed (completed as of Jun 28 17:30). However, I have this sneaking suspicion I actually cvsup'ed with "cvs tag=." for the crypto code (although I'm quite certain I used RELENG_4 for the base source), and wound up with the CURRENT crypto as opposed to the then-STABLE crypto. So far, I haven't noticed any big problems with this machine (ssh still works, etc...), but I'm wondering how I might be able to tell if there has been damage that I haven't yet been able to detect, and if I do need to downgrade the crypto source to the now-STABLE versions, just how I'd go about doing that. Thanks! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 1:38: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr2.ruhr.de [141.39.224.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FFB237B5A5 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 01:37:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 81104 invoked by alias); 4 Jul 2000 08:38:56 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA39462 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:14:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ue) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:14:00 +0200 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fstab mount options Message-ID: <20000704001400.Z4112@nathan.ruhr.de> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000703143451.G433@dialin-client.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000703143451.G433@dialin-client.earthlink.net>; from cristjc@earthlink.net on Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 02:34:52PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, > If you want mortal users to mount MSDOS floppies, tho', you may want to give /usr/ports/emulators/mtools a try :-) It also works for MSDOS ZIP disks. /s/Udo -- Abandon the search for Truth; settle for a good fantasy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 1:38: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FEB37B99E; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 01:38:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA50793; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 01:38:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 01:38:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Brad Knowles Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sshd/RSAPrivateDecrypt problems after make world In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 10:03 PM -0700 2000/7/3, John Polstra wrote: > > > It has been fixed now. The file in question is back in its original > > collection, and the src-crypto-rsa collection is gone. > > On a related question -- I've got a 4.0-STABLE machine that I > recently cvsup'ed (completed as of Jun 28 17:30). However, I have > this sneaking suspicion I actually cvsup'ed with "cvs tag=." for the > crypto code (although I'm quite certain I used RELENG_4 for the base > source), and wound up with the CURRENT crypto as opposed to the > then-STABLE crypto. Just cvsup it back to RELENG_4. The -current crypto code will probably work fine (the only difference I think is the newer version of OpenSSL which I havent MFC'ed because one or two people were having weird non-reproducable (by me) bugs), but that may change at any moment :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 2: 3:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1139C37B5E2 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 02:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 4 Jul 2000 10:03:05 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:03:05 +0100 From: David Malone To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: Brad Knowles , Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fstab mount options Message-ID: <20000704100305.A10201@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <14689.1084.894512.504331@onceler.kcilink.com> <20000703163045.A248@dialin-client.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <20000703163045.A248@dialin-client.earthlink.net>; from cristjc@earthlink.net on Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 04:30:45PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 04:30:45PM -0700, Crist J. Clark wrote: > The risk I see is does this method let users mount with setuid? Not by the looks of things - you can also only mount on directories owned by yourself. It's enforced in the mount syscall. temp1# sysctl -w vfs.usermount=1 vfs.usermount: 0 -> 1 temp1# suspend Suspended > mount vn0 /mnt mount: Operation not permitted > mkdir blah > mount vn0 blah > mount | fgrep blah vn0 on /usr/home/dwmalone/blah (ufs, local, nodev, nosuid, mounted by dwmalone, writes: sync 2 async 0, reads: sync 14 async 0) > umount blah > fg su temp1# sysctl -w vfs.usermount=0 David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 2: 7:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net (kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B0537B50D for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 02:07:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@earthlink.net) Received: from dialin-client.earthlink.net (pool0104.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.192.104]) by kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24187; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 02:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by dialin-client.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA01322; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 02:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 02:05:00 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Scott Michel Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: manifest? Message-ID: <20000704020500.E679@dialin-client.earthlink.net> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <200007022019.NAA21335@mordred.cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200007022019.NAA21335@mordred.cs.ucla.edu>; from scottm@cs.ucla.edu on Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 01:19:00PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 01:19:00PM -0700, Scott Michel wrote: > Is there a manifest of what files should be in a 4.x system, excluding ports, > so that one can clean up after an upgrade, e.g. delete shared libs that used > to belong to older versions of FreeBSD? > > I know that ports will link older files, but they can always be rebuilt. I think this would be a problem when people customize their make world via /etc/make.conf. It will look like there are a lot of files missing. If you are worried about old libs hanging around, they only really live in one place, # ls -lt /usr/lib/*.so* Should give you the info you need to delete the files (there are not that many) that might have changed. Watch out for broken symlinks too. What I found a little more worrisome on a 3.x to 4.0 upgrade was that some things moved from /usr/sbin to /sbin. There were two executables hanging about. Immediately after the make world, you can look at all of the old files left by doing something like, # find / -type d -mtime +1 -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 2: 8:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFF0637B587 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 02:08:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 4 Jul 2000 10:08:45 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:08:45 +0100 From: David Malone To: Brad Knowles Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fstab mount options Message-ID: <20000704100845.B10201@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <14689.1084.894512.504331@onceler.kcilink.com> <20000703163045.A248@dialin-client.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: ; from blk@skynet.be on Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 09:54:32AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 09:54:32AM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: > > From the comment, I would say he has a SCSI Zip drive. The same line > > could apply to Jaz, an ancient Bernoull, or the like. > Right, but if he had any other SCSI disks on the system (such as > the disk with /, /usr, /var, etc...), wouldn't this also allow them > to be mounted & unmounted as desired by the user? His script only chmoded da0 - which possibly contains /, /usr or /var but if you're doing this you probably know not to chmod da0 world r/w. > Certainly if you're talking about your own laptop or dedicated > desktop machine, the rules can be relaxed somewhat. However, in > general this just seems to be a particularly unsafe practice. That > is, unless I've missed something fundamental? Yep - you shouldn't be able to use the rest of the SCSI disks unless you chmod them too - I guess it should be roughly as safe as chmoding floppy drives to allow people to mount them. Mind you, it people can mount filesystems they can probably panic the machine by corrupting the filesystem before it's mounted and then using it. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 2:10:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rizla.energy.it (rizla.energy.it [212.51.128.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D09337B63B for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 02:10:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from demanzano@playstos.com) Received: from sunshine (s59.mi.energy.it [212.51.129.122]) by rizla.energy.it (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA04649; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:08:03 +0200 Message-Id: <200007040908.LAA04649@rizla.energy.it> From: "Alessandro de Manzano" To: "Chad R. Larson" , "Sean O'Connell" Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" , "marki@paradise.net.nz" Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 11:12:48 +0200 Reply-To: "Alessandro de Manzano" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195) In-Reply-To: <20000702234118.N65450@stat.Duke.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:41:18 -0400, Sean O'Connell wrote: >Adding > >log_in_vain="YES" very interesting ! >sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.log_in_vain=1 >sysctl -w net.inet.udp.log_in_vain=1 > >will enable it. This is also useful for watching port scans :) does you know with which LOG facility this reports are logged ? (just to configure syslog.conf to use another log file) thanks! Alessandro de Manzano Playstos - TIMA S.p.A. Corso Sempione 63 20149 Milano, Italy tel.: +39-023314153 fax: +39-02315678 email: demanzano@playstos.com http://www.playstos.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 2:13:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orange.csi.cam.ac.uk (orange.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D834937B5E2 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 02:13:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sa264@cam.ac.uk) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost ident=root) by orange.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 139OlK-0001Aj-00; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 10:13:02 +0100 To: blk@skynet.be Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, khera@kciLink.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: sa264@cam.ac.uk Subject: Re: fstab mount options In-Reply-To: References: <20000703163045.A248@dialin-client.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000704101301U.sa264@cam.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 10:13:01 +0100 From: AMAKAWA Shuhei X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Certainly if you're talking about your own laptop or dedicated > desktop machine, the rules can be relaxed somewhat. However, in > general this just seems to be a particularly unsafe practice. That > is, unless I've missed something fundamental? Try amd(8). It doesn't require setuid. -- Shuhei To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 2:25: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21FB37B607; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 02:24:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C826C18060; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:24:48 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:24:06 +0200 To: Kris Kennaway From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: sshd/RSAPrivateDecrypt problems after make world Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 1:38 AM -0700 2000/7/4, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Just cvsup it back to RELENG_4. The -current crypto code will probably > work fine (the only difference I think is the newer version of > OpenSSL which I havent MFC'ed because one or two people were having weird > non-reproducable (by me) bugs), but that may change at any moment :-) Cool. Thanks for the very speedy answer! This now gives me time to actually do the full update, make buildworld, make installworld, and to build and install a new kernel -- all in the same day! ;-) -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 3:27:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ldc.ro (ldc-gw.pub.ro [192.129.3.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A841237B71D for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 03:27:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from razor@ldc.ro) Received: (qmail 13311 invoked by uid 666); 4 Jul 2000 10:27:21 -0000 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:27:21 +0300 From: Alex Popa To: Dan O'Connor Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: securing the boot process (again?!?) Message-ID: <20000704132721.A13263@ldc.ro> References: <0d8b01bfe56a$0c01c580$0200000a@danco> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <0d8b01bfe56a$0c01c580$0200000a@danco>; from dan@mostgraveconcern.com on Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 08:43:38PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 08:43:38PM -0700, Dan O'Connor wrote: > >> Doesn't your computer have a BIOS password? These are typically invoked > >> *before* the BIOS tries to boot off any disk... > > > >Unfortunately BIOS passwords can be disabled on the motherboard in a matter > >of minutes (for most motherboards that I know of). Even Dell laptops > (don't > >know about their desktops/servers) have a master password that Dell will > give > >you if you call them, provided you give them some details first. > > Looks like there's not really much you can do if you can't physically secure > the machine. > > Even all the other tricks, boot only from hard drive, setting the delay to > '0', are pointless if someone can get inside the hardware case, change > jumpers, get into the BIOS and turn on boot from floppy and then boot from a > floppy. On the other hand, if someone has the opportunity to do all that, > they might as well just steal the whole box... > > Moral of the story: either secure the machine in a location where malicious > users can't get to it or take the consequences. > Okay, my mistake: by "public access machine" I meant users have access to the fromt panel of the PC (so they can use the floppy drive) and a keyboard and monitor, but *NOT* the inside of the case (the case is sort of buried in a wall). And the problem I had was (apart from booting an evil kernel installed on /tmp) that by setting the floppy drive to "none" in the BIOS the kernel (4.0-STABLE) canot use floppies after booting. I do have a BIOS password, and of what I've heard there is no other way of bypassing it except for the jumpers on the motherboard (impossible, see above). ------------+------------------------------------------ Alex Popa, |There never was a good war or a bad peace razor@ldc.ro| -- B. Franklin ------------+------------------------------------------ "It took the computing power of three C-64s to fly to the Moon. It takes a 486 to run Windows 95. Something is wrong here." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 3:48:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from frigga.circle.net (morrigu.circle.net [209.95.64.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0948037B540; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 03:48:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tcobb@staff.circle.net) Received: by FRIGGA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <31V1XCK8>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 06:48:12 -0400 Message-ID: From: Troy Arie Cobb To: 'Alex Popa' , Dan O'Connor Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: securing the boot process (again?!?) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 06:48:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There are small locks you can buy which fit into a floppy drive and secure it with a key. If your users don't need to put floppies in on a regular basis (but perhaps YOU do occasionally), then this can be a good choice to avoid booting the evil-floppy-kernel. -Troy Cobb Circle Net, Inc. http://www.circle.net 1-800-321-2237 x308 > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex Popa [mailto:razor@ldc.ro] > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 6:27 AM > To: Dan O'Connor > Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: securing the boot process (again?!?) > > > On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 08:43:38PM -0700, Dan O'Connor wrote: > > >> Doesn't your computer have a BIOS password? These are > typically invoked > > >> *before* the BIOS tries to boot off any disk... > > > > > >Unfortunately BIOS passwords can be disabled on the > motherboard in a matter > > >of minutes (for most motherboards that I know of). Even > Dell laptops > > (don't > > >know about their desktops/servers) have a master > password that Dell will > > give > > >you if you call them, provided you give them some details first. > > > > Looks like there's not really much you can do if you > can't physically secure > > the machine. > > > > Even all the other tricks, boot only from hard drive, > setting the delay to > > '0', are pointless if someone can get inside the hardware > case, change > > jumpers, get into the BIOS and turn on boot from floppy > and then boot from a > > floppy. On the other hand, if someone has the opportunity > to do all that, > > they might as well just steal the whole box... > > > > Moral of the story: either secure the machine in a > location where malicious > > users can't get to it or take the consequences. > > > Okay, my mistake: by "public access machine" I meant users > have access > to the fromt panel of the PC (so they can use the floppy > drive) and a > keyboard and monitor, but *NOT* the inside of the case (the case is > sort of buried in a wall). And the problem I had was > (apart from booting > an evil kernel installed on /tmp) that by setting the > floppy drive to > "none" in the BIOS the kernel (4.0-STABLE) canot use floppies after > booting. > > I do have a BIOS password, and of what I've heard there is no other > way of bypassing it except for the jumpers on the motherboard > (impossible, see above). > > ------------+------------------------------------------ > Alex Popa, |There never was a good war or a bad peace > razor@ldc.ro| -- B. Franklin > ------------+------------------------------------------ > "It took the computing power of three C-64s to fly to the Moon. > It takes a 486 to run Windows 95. Something is wrong here." > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 3:52:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.polytechnic.edu.na (mail.polytechnic.edu.na [196.31.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B3237B761 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 03:52:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@polytechnic.edu.na) Received: from ns1.horizon.na ([196.31.225.199] helo=polytechnic.edu.na) by mail.polytechnic.edu.na with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 139SAF-000439-00; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 10:50:59 -0200 Message-ID: <3961C18F.E8753501@polytechnic.edu.na> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 11:50:55 +0100 From: Tim Priebe Reply-To: tim@iafrica.com.na X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: David Gilbert , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? References: <14689.22689.894466.908666@trooper.velocet.net> <20000704153914.C60136@cs.waikato.ac.nz> <14689.23903.87264.511506@trooper.velocet.net> <200007040353.XAA03131@whizzo.transsys.com> <14689.27160.907313.347624@trooper.velocet.net> <200007040508.BAA59763@whizzo.transsys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Louis A. Mamakos" wrote: > > > >>>>> "Louis" == Louis A Mamakos writes: > > > > Louis> There's some confusion here, because the MTU is typically > > Louis> associated with a protocol stack like IP and refers to the > > Louis> largest sized (IP in this case) packet that can be sent on the > > Louis> network interface. In the case of Ethernet interfaces that > > Louis> support and use VLAN tags, the MTU is still 1500 bytes, > > Louis> regardless of the fact that the frame size is a few bytes > > Louis> longer to accomodate the VLAN tag information. > > > > Louis> So, this has no effect on the Ethernet type field (or 802.3 > > Louis> length fields) since the higher level protocol packet size is > > Louis> unchanged. > > > > Why, then, are the vlan MTUs hardwired at 1496? > > You got me. Perhaps the code is busted. Perhaps the code is trying > to accomodate ethernet NICs that cannot send or receive larger > than "normal" ethernet frames. (e.g., those with VLAN tags or > priority labels). > > I just know that on networks that I've built and used with Ethernet > switches which use VLAN tagging, I've had no problems transporting > 1500 byte MTU IP packets inside of ethernet frames. If the NIC card > in the FreeBSD host can't send the larger frames to accomodate the > VLAN tags, then it's broken. From the days I was last getting this to work ~3.2-RELEASE, the real problem is not an MTU of 1496 (unless it is a router), but an MRU of 1496. From what I rembember fixing it to send the extra 4 bytes was not that difficult. I eventually fixed my firewall, to mostly function with a MTU and MRU of 1500 on the vlan interfaces, but at the cost that it would spontaniously reboot if you tried to establish a tcp connection. This has not been a real problem for me, but has been for some others that report the same behaviour, and wanted to use it in a web server. I think it is probably time to have a policy decision, that we are willing support the 802.1Q and 802.1p frames on equipment that is able to send and recieve the extra 4 bytes per frame. Then a framework can be developed to support this with out too much additional overhead in the drivers. I am willing to put some time in to this. For clarification, I am not suggesting that we need to look at prioritisation of packets, based on 802.1p, at this time, just stop discarding them if they are "too big". Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 4: 1:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-51.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6774C37B761 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 04:01:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA02369; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 04:08:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007041108.EAA02369@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: David Gilbert , Kent Stewart , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 02 Jul 2000 23:55:24 MDT." <20000702235524.A19820@panzer.kdm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:08:47 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > When the da(4) driver does a dump, it uses the CAM transport layer's polled > completion/action facility, xpt_polled_action(). > > It looks like there is a substantial delay (1ms) in that routine between > poll intervals. That would still allow 4MB/sec (1 page per I/O) - I think there's more to it than just that. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the taks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 4:15:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lafontaine.cybercable.fr (lafontaine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9AF4237B550 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 04:15:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenrion@cybercable.fr) Received: (qmail 8099361 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2000 11:15:48 -0000 Received: from r121m199.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO cybercable.fr) ([195.132.121.199]) (envelope-sender ) by lafontaine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Jul 2000 11:15:48 -0000 Message-ID: <3961C82C.70E257D7@cybercable.fr> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 13:19:08 +0200 From: Maxime Henrion X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: mouse problems with XFree 4.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've build and i'm now running XFree86 4.0.1 on my -STABLE system. But i have a problem : when i switch to a console and i go back to X, my mouse doesnt work anymore. I'm using /dev/sysmouse in my XF86Config and this was working great with XFree 3.3.6. Is this problem known, and what can i do to fix it ? Any help will be greatly appreciated. - Maxime Henrion To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 4:19:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [213.188.21.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13B137B78E for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 04:19:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Received: from localhost (localhost.flipp.net [127.0.0.1]) by freenix.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA48747 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:19:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:19:24 +0200 (CEST) From: "Morten A. Middelthon" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: BIND 8.2.3-T5B in RELENG_4 source Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From the sources I cvsup'ed last night I got BIND 8.2.3-T5B in src/contrib/bind, which is a beta version, and not recommended for production use by ISC. Is this a mistake or is there some special reason for it being there? -- Morten A. Middelthon Freenix Norge http://www.freenix.no/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 5:15:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-51.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8C437B98D for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 05:15:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02795; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 05:22:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007041222.FAA02795@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 03 Jul 2000 19:38:34 +0200." <20000703193834.Q5945@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 05:22:36 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > The Problem with aha1542 (ISA busmaster capable controller) in > PCI boards is that it is located "at the end" of a long chain to > memory. Chances are, busmastering will not work at all behind > the PCI to ISA bridge since all the PCI devices have higher > priority and the ISA gadget never gets any access granted or at > least always too late. You're better off with a PCI controller. This is Just Not True. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the taks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 5:29:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645DA37B82D; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 05:29:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from se@freebsd.org) Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 139RpV-0003Au-00; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 14:29:33 +0200 Received: from a6b2a.pppool.de ([213.6.107.42] helo=StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #3) id 139RpU-0004IP-00; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 14:29:32 +0200 Received: by StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 200) id 14859D41; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 14:01:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 14:01:31 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Stephen McKay Cc: Alan Edmonds , Bill Paul , Chris Wasser , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Stefan Esser Subject: Re: Strangeness with 4.0-S Message-ID: <20000704140131.A1734@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: Stefan Esser References: <200007030749.RAA13446@dungeon.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007030749.RAA13446@dungeon.home>; from mckay@thehub.com.au on Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 05:49:56PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-07-03 17:49 +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: > I appreciate Bill's intent here to inform the public, and I usually code > the same way. But I've come to the conclusion that it just scares people, > and isn't beneficial after the shake out in -current. True! > Still, I have an alternative suggestion to just ripping out the messages. > I believe the most useful option would be to make the default to always > store and forward, and allow an option (config file option, or some ifconfig > command, sysctl, or some such) to enable the start-before-you've-got-the-data > method. Why is that preferential to just ripping out the message ??? Each buffer underrun will cause an Ethernet packet to require retransmission. Nobody will ever notice, except if he puts a sniffer on the wire and triggers on packets with CRC errors. > I don't think any normal user would see the speed difference. No one would > see those messages soon after every boot. And best of all, we wouldn't see > the connection hang for several seconds each time that message rolled by. > It annoyed me so much I hacked my copy to not do any fancy stuff, and just > go store and forward. I still get 10MB/s ftp between boxes. You increase latencies without good reason. This is not much of a problem with TCP, but UDP/RPC/NFS may suffer. You better just suppress the messages and let the system find a setting, which will not lead to underruns ... It is just not necessary to disable the optimization, since it will cost a few retransmissions (and the driver will know that the frame was not successfully sent and can retry immediately with the modified buffer setting). Regards, STefan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 6: 7:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axolotl.ic.gc.ca (axolotl.ic.gc.ca [198.103.246.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F3E37B8B0 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 06:07:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antonio@axolotl.ic.gc.ca) Received: from localhost (antonio@localhost) by axolotl.ic.gc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id JAA46642; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 09:07:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from antonio@axolotl.ic.gc.ca) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 09:07:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Antonio Bemfica To: Maxime Henrion Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mouse problems with XFree 4.0.1 In-Reply-To: <3961C82C.70E257D7@cybercable.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I also had problems with the mouse. Setting Option "Protocol" "Auto" in the "InputDevice" section solved it. Also, could not use the XFree86 -configure method to configure X. Had to resort to /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config which produced a proper conf file - I merged old settings by hand. Antonio On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Maxime Henrion wrote: > Hi, > > I've build and i'm now running XFree86 4.0.1 on my > -STABLE system. But i have a problem : when i switch to a console and i > go back to X, my mouse doesnt work anymore. I'm using /dev/sysmouse in > my XF86Config and this was working great with XFree 3.3.6. Is this > problem known, and what can i do to fix it ? > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > - Maxime Henrion > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 6:32:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragonstar.dhs.org (dsl-028-a.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.161.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D02637B747 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 06:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (jonsmith@localhost) by dragonstar.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02707; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 08:32:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 08:32:08 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Smith To: David Malone Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, Brad Knowles , Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fstab mount options In-Reply-To: <20000704100305.A10201@walton.maths.tcd.ie> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One way around that (with XDM) is to chown /console/* to the user when chowning the device and remove execute perms on /console so that the devices would be /console/cdrom, /console/floppy, etc. :) Then you can get, say, amd to do the tricks of mounting it. j. -- Close your eyes. Now forget what you see. What do you feel? -- My heart. -- Come here. -- Your heart. -- See? We're exactly the same. Jon Smith -- Senior Math Major @ Purdue On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, David Malone wrote: > On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 04:30:45PM -0700, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > The risk I see is does this method let users mount with setuid? > > Not by the looks of things - you can also only mount on directories > owned by yourself. It's enforced in the mount syscall. > > temp1# sysctl -w vfs.usermount=1 > vfs.usermount: 0 -> 1 > temp1# suspend > Suspended > > mount vn0 /mnt > mount: Operation not permitted > > mkdir blah > > mount vn0 blah > > mount | fgrep blah > vn0 on /usr/home/dwmalone/blah (ufs, local, nodev, nosuid, mounted by dwmalone, writes: sync 2 async 0, reads: sync 14 async 0) > > umount blah > > fg > su > temp1# sysctl -w vfs.usermount=0 > > David. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 6:53:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.3.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E019C37B59F for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 06:53:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from areilly@nsw.bigpond.net.au) Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (CPE-144-132-171-71.nsw.bigpond.net.au [144.132.171.71]) by sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA26374 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:07:59 +1000 (EST) Received: (qmail 794 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Jul 2000 12:07:57 -0000 From: "Andrew Reilly" Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:07:57 +1000 To: brian@Awfulhak.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: John Polstra , cananian@alumni.princeton.edu Subject: PPP in pptpclient, specifically EAP authentication Message-ID: <20000704220757.A99956@gurney.reilly.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've just discovered that ppp on my recent FreeBSD-stable system (FreeBSD gurney.reilly.home 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Tue Jul 4 14:30:20 EST 2000 root@gurney.reilly.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GURNEY i386), when used with the pptpclient port (aka pptp-linux-1.0.2), won't authenticate to a Windows 2000 server running Microsoft's VPN. A little poking through the ppp logs shows that it doesn't like AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc227 (unknown). A bit of web digging shows that that is the so-called Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) defined in RFC 2284, and described at: http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/eap.htm a) Does anyone have this implemented for our PPP, and is looking for someone to test patches? b) Does anyone know of any way to force said Windows 2000 system to authenticate using something like CHAP or MS-CHAP, that our PPP _does_ understand? Thaks in advance, -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 7: 9:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smople.thehub.com.au (smople.thehub.com.au [203.143.240.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0381C37B5A2; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 07:09:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mckay@thehub.com.au) Received: from dungeon.home (bne52.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.52]) by smople.thehub.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA65725; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:09:21 +1000 (EST) Received: from dungeon.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dungeon.home (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18590; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:11:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from mckay) Message-Id: <200007041411.AAA18590@dungeon.home> To: Stefan Esser Cc: Stephen McKay , Alan Edmonds , Bill Paul , Chris Wasser , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strangeness with 4.0-S References: <200007030749.RAA13446@dungeon.home> <20000704140131.A1734@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20000704140131.A1734@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> from Stefan Esser at "Tue, 04 Jul 2000 14:01:31 +0200" Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 00:11:08 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 4th July 2000, Stefan Esser wrote: >It is just not necessary to disable the optimization, since it >will cost a few retransmissions (and the driver will know that >the frame was not successfully sent and can retry immediately >with the modified buffer setting). On my systems (multiple affected by this sort of thing) I get a long and annoying pause as the card resets and renegotiates speed and half/full duplex with the switch. It is very noticeable and quite frankly not acceptable. I had to hack out all the clever auto fallback because otherwise I would have thrown my computer out the window. That's why I think that setting the default ever-so-slightly slower, but without big hiccups, is better than the current situation. Of course, add a "maximum performance" switch if you want, but no regular user will find fault with a default of store and forward. Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 8:17: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lafontaine.cybercable.fr (lafontaine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9DC737B990 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 08:17:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenrion@cybercable.fr) Received: (qmail 8143792 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2000 15:16:56 -0000 Received: from r121m199.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO cybercable.fr) ([195.132.121.199]) (envelope-sender ) by lafontaine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Jul 2000 15:16:56 -0000 Message-ID: <396200B0.FC0C2FAC@cybercable.fr> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 17:20:17 +0200 From: Maxime Henrion X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Bemfica , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mouse problems with XFree 4.0.1 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My Protocol is already set to Auto and I generated my XF86Config file with xf86config too, but this doesn't solve my problem. Any other ideas ? - Maxime Henrion Antonio Bemfica wrote: > I also had problems with the mouse. Setting > > Option "Protocol" "Auto" > > in the "InputDevice" section solved it. Also, could not use the > > XFree86 -configure > > method to configure X. Had to resort to /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config which > produced a proper conf file - I merged old settings by hand. > > Antonio > > On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Maxime Henrion wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I've build and i'm now running XFree86 4.0.1 on my > > -STABLE system. But i have a problem : when i switch to a console and i > > go back to X, my mouse doesnt work anymore. I'm using /dev/sysmouse in > > my XF86Config and this was working great with XFree 3.3.6. Is this > > problem known, and what can i do to fix it ? > > > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > > > - Maxime Henrion > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 9:39:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.hei.net (catfish.hei.net [209.222.163.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D2A37B585; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 09:39:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@hei.net) Received: from trout (trout.hei.net [209.222.163.131]) by salmon.hei.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA04937; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 09:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001c01bfe5d2$1ad012c0$83a3ded1@hei.net> From: "John Hengstler" To: , , Subject: Lucent Winmodem Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 09:08:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I know that winmodems ARE NOT supported in the general stream. However is there someone somewhere working on code that they need a tester to go with it? I noticed on the Linux lists that there is some workarounds for Lucent Winmodems (which is what I have) If there isn't please let me know so I can be a little more patient. Thanks. John Hengstler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 9:45:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.server.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B44337B585 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 09:45:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.90.105]) by mta01-svc.server.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000704164532.IVJP381.mta01-svc.server.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 17:45:32 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01961; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 17:45:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 17:45:13 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Vivek Khera Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man nice(1) Message-ID: <20000704174512.E233@parish> References: <20000702120917.D5BA71E7E@wit401310.student.utwente.nl> <200007021418.e62EIww00785@cwsys.cwsent.com> <14688.46019.59832.34577@onceler.kcilink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14688.46019.59832.34577@onceler.kcilink.com>; from khera@kciLink.com on Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 11:39:47AM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 11:39:47AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "CS" == Cy Schubert <- ITSD Open Systems Group > writes: > > CS> I see you're a csh user. C Shell has a builtin nice which is > CS> incompatible with /usr/bin/nice which is used by the Bourne shell and > CS> any of its descendants. > > It might be good then to document the nice command as possibly being > impelemented in the shell, and to check you shell's man page also. > Similarly for the "test" program. > ``man builtin'' gives a long list of commands and whether they are external and/or internal to sh(1) and csh(1): [snip] Command External csh sh alias No Yes Yes alloc No Yes No bg No Yes Yes break No Yes No breaksw No Yes No [snip] > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. > Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 > GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 10: 4:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web111.yahoomail.com (web111.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7A4837B656 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:04:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karldoblinger@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 16478 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jul 2000 17:04:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20000704170416.16477.qmail@web111.yahoomail.com> Received: from [208.61.124.120] by web111.yahoomail.com; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 10:04:16 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:04:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Karl Doblinger Subject: subscribe To: stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 10:32: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from racine.cybercable.fr (racine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 750F637B66B for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:31:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenrion@cybercable.fr) Received: (qmail 5041113 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2000 17:29:44 -0000 Received: from r121m199.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO cybercable.fr) ([195.132.121.199]) (envelope-sender ) by racine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Jul 2000 17:29:44 -0000 Message-ID: <39621FCD.1AE2FCF9@cybercable.fr> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 19:33:01 +0200 From: Maxime Henrion X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: the_hermit665@hotmail.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why isnt there a ext2fs.ko ? References: <20000704171635.51800.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know that, and i use statically compiled modules. It's not the point. Cosmic 665 wrote: > Statically Compiled modules are much better then the lkd's. Get used to it > :P > > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > I was wondering why the kernel module for ext2fs doesnt exist. I > > > > think this will be very useful because a lot of linux users come to > > > > FreeBSD and want to mount their existing linux partitions, and they > >have > > > > to recompile their kernel. This isn't a hard task, but it's a bit > > > > disappointing for new users. > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=14217 > > > > > > But it doesn't seem to compile with FreeBSD-current anymore. Give me a > > > day or so and I will update it work with a newer FreeBSD. On this > >topic, > > > how would anyone feel about importing NetBSD's GPL-clean ext2fs source? > > > >If noone beats me to it, I'll look at it after I've committed the > >couple of things in my commit queue. > > > > > > > >Adrian > > > >-- > >Adrian Chadd Build a man a fire, and he's warm for the > > rest of the evening. Set a man on fire and > > he's warm for the rest of his life. > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 11:15: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0101C37B527 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:15:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 139XDq-0005Pu-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 14:15:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 14:15:01 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fstab mount options Message-ID: <20000704141501.B20079@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000703143451.G433@dialin-client.earthlink.net> <20000704001400.Z4112@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000704001400.Z4112@nathan.ruhr.de>; from ue@nathan.ruhr.de on Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 12:14:00AM +0200 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Udo Erdelhoff probably said: > give /usr/ports/emulators/mtools a try :-) It also works for MSDOS ZIP disks. While mtools is very useful in a lot of circumstances, and I use it a fair bit, it's not as versatile as actually mounting the disk. As far as I'm aware mtools cannot make a disk seem like it's mounted or act directly on the disk's contents (with the possible exception of renaming). When I'm looking through a 1gb jaz disk for a file containing something, being able to see the names of files and copy them to another disk isn't very useful. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 11:39: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D0337BADF; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:38:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27760; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:38:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 11:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: Crypto changes coming soon Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This announcement is primarily for FreeBSD committers, CVSup users, and mirror sites. Mark Murray will soon post a companion announcement for CTM users. As a consequence of recent relaxation in US export restrictions for cryptography software, the FreeBSD project has obtained the necessary permissions to export the crypto portions of its source tree. This is a welcome development, to say the least, and we are now ready to take advantage of it. In a nutshell, our plan is to fold the crypto files into the "src-all" and "cvs-all" collections and eliminate the "cvs-crypto" collection entirely. Just to make this is perfectly clear, we will eliminate the _collection_ only -- not the files it contains. Those files will simply become a part of "src-all" and "cvs-all". These existing crypto sub-collections: src-crypto src-eBones src-secure src-sys-crypto will remain valid and unchanged, except that they will become sub-collections of "src-all" instead of the soon-to-be-defunct "cvs-all" collection. As part of this process, the crypto files on internat.FreeBSD.org will be synchronized with the now-unrestricted files on freefall. After this step there will no longer be any differences between the files on the two machines, and internat will become just another mirror site like all the others. Neither mirror sites nor CVSup users need to do anything special to prepare for this. In fact, I strongly advise all of you to leave your supfiles unchanged until the dust has settled. When we eliminate the "cvs-crypto" collection, you will start seeing warnings from CVSup saying that collection doesn't exist. These warnings will be harmless and can safely be ignored. By that time the files which formerly belonged to "cvs-crypto" will be owned by "src-all" and "cvs-all". They won't be deleted or changed. Here is how we plan to proceed: 1. Impose an enforced freeze on all of the crypto files. 2. Synch up internat with freefall. 3. Absorb the crypto files into the "src-all" and "cvs-all" collections, and eliminate the "cvs-crypto" collection. At the same time, temporarily orphan "src-crypto", "src-eBones", "src-secure", and "src-sys-crypto" so that they are no longer treated as sub-collections of "cvs-all". This latter step will have no visible effect, except that it will temporarily suppress cvsupd's mirror mode optimization for the orphaned collections. Mirror sites may see a slight increase in load because of that, but it will last only a day or two. I don't expect the increased load to be significant, because the crypto collections are relatively small. 4. Wait 24-48 hours to make sure these changes have propagated to the mirrors. 5. Reparent "src-crypto", "src-eBones", "src-secure", and "src-sys-crypto" so that they are considered to be sub-collections of "src-all". This will cause the mirror mode optimizations to kick in again. 6. Lift the freeze. After the freeze has been lifted and the dust has settled, you may remove "cvs-crypto" from your supfiles if you wish. There is no urgency surrounding that; you'll merely get harmless warnings from your CVSup updates until you do. Finally, we will: 7. Update the cvsup-mirror port, sample supfiles, and other documentation. We planned this transition as carefully as we could, and we are confident that it will go smoothly. Should a few unforseen glitches arise, please remain calm and rest assured that we perpetrators are safe and sound in a well-concealed underground bunker where you will never find us. Your friendly source-meisters, John Polstra, Peter Wemm, and Mark Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 11:51:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D4937B59B; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:51:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA23345; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:30:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03323; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:37:36 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:37:36 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Josef Karthauser , Nik Clayton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Conspectus] -stable, week ending 5th June 2000 Message-ID: <20000704103736.A3265@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000617140741.A6749@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000703141440.H29903@pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000703141440.H29903@pavilion.net>; from joe@pavilion.net on Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 02:14:40PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 02:14:40PM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: > Are we going to see any more of these Nik? I sent out the one for the 12th a few hours ago. I've been somewhat busy over the past 10 days or so (but you knew that anyway :-) ). Hopefully, Salvo will be doing these after the next one or two, so they don't have to rely on my schedule. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 11:55:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78A937B59B; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:55:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27911; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:55:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA36569; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:55:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007041855.LAA36569@vashon.polstra.com> To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Crypto changes coming soon In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oops, Alan Edmonds pointed out a typo in my announcement: > src-crypto > src-eBones > src-secure > src-sys-crypto > > will remain valid and unchanged, except that they will become > sub-collections of "src-all" instead of the soon-to-be-defunct > "cvs-all" collection. ^^^^^^^ should say "cvs-crypto" Thanks, Alan! John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 12:19:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1990937B585 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 12:19:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 8553 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jul 2000 19:19:28 -0000 Received: from p3e9e7a54.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.158.122.84) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 4 Jul 2000 19:19:28 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12191 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:16:30 +0200 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:16:30 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) Message-ID: <20000704191630.U5945@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000703193834.Q5945@speedy.gsinet> <200007041222.FAA02795@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200007041222.FAA02795@mass.osd.bsdi.com>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 05:22:36AM -0700 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 05:22 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > The Problem with aha1542 (ISA busmaster capable controller) > > in PCI boards is that it is located "at the end" of a long > > chain to memory. Chances are, busmastering will not work at > > all behind the PCI to ISA bridge since all the PCI devices > > have higher priority and the ISA gadget never gets any access > > granted or at least always too late. You're better off with > > a PCI controller. > > This is Just Not True. Can you please tell me more about it? I'm not sure of the priority thing I mention above, but the fact that ISA busmaster devices and PCI boards somewhat collide or counter operate (sorry, lacking better words once more) is what I got from serious papers here. How direct is the access method an ISA controller has to the memory when sitting behind a bridge? I would be glad to believe a 1542B/C in a PCI machine is A Good Thing(TM). :) virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 13: 7:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D8B37B9EF for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:07:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id NAA22400; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:06:34 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda22398; Tue Jul 4 13:06:24 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA17620; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdQ17618; Tue Jul 4 13:06:19 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.2/8.9.1) id e64K6JI08875; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007042006.e64K6JI08875@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdmx8869; Tue Jul 4 13:05:40 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: dg@root.com Cc: Simon Heath , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Poor NFS performance with 4.0-stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 03 Jul 2000 15:20:13 PDT." <200007032220.PAA11735@implode.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 13:05:40 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200007032220.PAA11735@implode.root.com>, David Greenman writes: > >On moving from 4.0-release to 4.0-stable I'm getting a big slow down in file > >transfers over NFS. Previously it was taking about 8s to transfer a 64Mb > >file (100baseTX), so about 8Mb/sec. Now it's closer to 20k/sec... This is > >when accessing both NFS servers running FreeBSD 4.0-release and Solaris 8. > >Access speeds when the 4.0-stable machine is running as a server are also > >very slow. Access speeds between the other machines is at the 8Mb/sec > >level. Any suggestions as to what I should be looking at? The nic card is > >an Intel EtherExpress Pro, and there do not appear to be any relevant error > >messages in /var/log/messages or dmesg. Any suggestions gratefully > >received! > > Are any of the machines connected to a switch? Is the duplex detected > correctly on all of the ports involved? Just had this happen to me two weekends ago. The switch "suddenly" didn't configure duplex or speed properly after a seemingly (at the time) unrelated network problem and my Legato backups went from 6 MB/s to 112 KB/s. I agree, check the switch first. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 13:15:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B896037B669 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:15:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA48268; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:15:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: Larry Rosenman Cc: Greg Lehey , Greg Work , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 01 Jul 2000 21:37:33 CDT." <200007020237.e622bY510740@lerami.lerctr.org> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 13:15:37 -0700 Message-ID: <48265.962741737@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Let's put it this way, I've posted a NUMBER of items to the -stable list > over the last 2-4 weeks as I've fought this one. I can't get a > CPU/BIOS/MB with a K6-2/550 on it to SUCCESSFULLY/RELIABLY make world. Well, it's certainly a hardware problem of some sort since we have literally dozens of K6-2 systems here - we built a cluster of them for package building and have a bunch of them also serving in various FreeBSD desktop roles. They all work flawlessly, from FreeBSD 3.x all the way up to 5.0-current. Where the hardware problem is with your system is, of course, almost impossible to diagnose remotely but rest assured that it is NOT a software issue. I'm also not saying that you implied such was the case, I just wanted to state such publically and for the record. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 13:21:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8451E37B765 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:21:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000703) id e64KLCj05745; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:21:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007042021.e64KLCj05745@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: <48265.962741737@localhost> "from Jordan K. Hubbard at Jul 4, 2000 01:15:37 pm" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:21:12 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Larry Rosenman , Greg Lehey , Greg Work , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Let's put it this way, I've posted a NUMBER of items to the -stable list > > over the last 2-4 weeks as I've fought this one. I can't get a > > CPU/BIOS/MB with a K6-2/550 on it to SUCCESSFULLY/RELIABLY make world. > > Well, it's certainly a hardware problem of some sort since we have > literally dozens of K6-2 systems here - we built a cluster of them for > package building and have a bunch of them also serving in various > FreeBSD desktop roles. They all work flawlessly, from FreeBSD 3.x all > the way up to 5.0-current. Where the hardware problem is with your > system is, of course, almost impossible to diagnose remotely but rest > assured that it is NOT a software issue. I'm also not saying that you > implied such was the case, I just wanted to state such publically and > for the record. I understand that, Jordan. I was hoping to get it fixed, but couldn't get the combo's THAT I HAD AVAILABLE to work. I wasn't implying that it was a S/W problem, just an interaction of hardware. I would have loved to get it working, BUT, ran out of patience. the system now has a P-III 600E in it, and runs flawlessly (little slower on SETI units, but...). Larry Rosenman > > - Jordan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 13:40:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B6337BB2F for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:40:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Received: from localhost (lplist@localhost) by q.closedsrc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA87504; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:40:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:40:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Larry Rosenman , Greg Lehey , Greg Work , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: <48265.962741737@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A couple of things that might cause poor performance on an AMD K6-2 system could be the cache located on the motherboard (either fake or painfully slow cache chips), old BIOS revision/firmware version, bad or non-matching memory, or just plain poor chipset. A couple of things to try is, if possible, is to flash your BIOS to the latest revision and make sure that your are using PC100 memory. You might want to try to disable the L2 cache that's on the motherboard to see if it helps with stability or not. If that increases stability, then the cache chips on your motherboard are bad. // Linh Pham // // Proud supporter of FreeBSD and OpenBSD // FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org // OpenBSD - http://www.openbsd.org /* "Oregon, n.: Eighty billion gallons of water with no place to go on Saturday night." */ On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Let's put it this way, I've posted a NUMBER of items to the -stable list > > over the last 2-4 weeks as I've fought this one. I can't get a > > CPU/BIOS/MB with a K6-2/550 on it to SUCCESSFULLY/RELIABLY make world. > > Well, it's certainly a hardware problem of some sort since we have > literally dozens of K6-2 systems here - we built a cluster of them for > package building and have a bunch of them also serving in various > FreeBSD desktop roles. They all work flawlessly, from FreeBSD 3.x all > the way up to 5.0-current. Where the hardware problem is with your > system is, of course, almost impossible to diagnose remotely but rest > assured that it is NOT a software issue. I'm also not saying that you > implied such was the case, I just wanted to state such publically and > for the record. > > - Jordan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 13:51:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [212.74.0.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FA237BA17; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA88662; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:51:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 482A81155E; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:30:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:30:30 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Nik Clayton Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Conspectus] -stable, week ending 5th June 2000 Message-ID: <20000704213030.B26614@pavilion.net> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Nik Clayton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000617140741.A6749@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000703141440.H29903@pavilion.net> <20000704103736.A3265@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000704103736.A3265@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 10:37:36AM +0000 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 10:37:36AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 02:14:40PM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > Are we going to see any more of these Nik? > > I sent out the one for the 12th a few hours ago. I've been somewhat busy > over the past 10 days or so (but you knew that anyway :-) ). Hopefully, > Salvo will be doing these after the next one or two, so they don't have to > rely on my schedule. :) I wasn't having a go - promise! I just hoped that it hadn't fizzled out so quickly :) I'm glad that it hasn't. It would be so nice to have this for each list, but the map time must be fairly high :(. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 14:12:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unicorn.blackhats.org (unicorn.blackhats.org [194.109.83.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CEA37BB3E for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 14:12:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unicorn@blackhats.org) Received: by unicorn.blackhats.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 2377912C2D; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 23:09:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 23:09:42 +0200 From: The Unicorn To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: APM, Sound and vmware on VAIO Z505HS issues Message-ID: <20000704230941.I27780@unicorn.blackhats.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i X-Files: The Truth Is Out There! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Guys (F/M), I have a Sony VAIO (PCG-Z505HS) running FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE. Have apm0 defined in the kernel and both apm_enable and apmd_enable set to YES in the rc.conf file. The system shuts-down perfectly using shutdown -p now, and also the zzz command will suspend the machine. However when I try to resume the system by pressing "any" key it will start the fan, disk and screen again, but everything else seems dead (including the keyboard). So the only way to "continue" working is to do a hard shutdown and reboot (and the necessary fscks)... Also the Yamaha soundcard is not recognised/supported (a shame since I would really like to have some means of playing music on this system). Does the 5.0-CURRENT driver actually work? And if so will it be backported any time soon? Since OSS seems to be reluctant to support FreeBSD 4.x, this seems to be my only hope... Last but not least a question on VMWare. I do have a windows 98 partition on this system as well and would really want to use this partition to boot windows inside a vmware window, but the raw drive is not supported. Has anyone here a similar configuration working, and if zo can you send me a small description on what I should do/configure to make this work on my system as well? aTdHvAaNnKcSe, Unicorn. -- ======= _ __,;;;/ TimeWaster ================================================ ,;( )_, )~\| A Truly Wise Man Never Plays PGP: 64 07 5D 4C 3F 81 22 73 ;; // `--; Leapfrog With A Unicorn... 52 9D 87 08 51 AA 35 F0 ==='= ;\ = | ==== Youth is Not a Time in Life, It is a State of Mind! ======= Echelon Teasers: NSA CIA FBI Mossad BVD MI5 Cocaine Cuba Revolution Espionage To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 15: 4: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B757037B664 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:03:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25510 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:03:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007042203.PAA25510@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: VIA chip set To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:03:46 -0700 (MST) Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There might not be enough time for this, but: The local Fry's Electronics is having a 4th of July one day sale. Featured is a 700MHz AMD Athlon barebones system, including Boxed AMD K7 CPU mid tower ATX case with 300w power supply and, most important, an installed motherboard VIA KX133 chipset 1 AGP slot 5 PCI slots 1 ISA slot 56K modem 10/100 Ethernet Audio 3 DIMM slots for PC-133 memory One per customer, $399. Today only. Can anyone report results with the Athlon and the KX133 chipset? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 15:19:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hdroam.ssd.loral.com (249.201.6.64.reflexcom.com [64.6.201.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E34637B938 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:19:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hdiwan@hdroam.ssd.loral.com) Received: (from hdiwan@localhost) by hdroam (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00544 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 19:16:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hdiwan) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 19:16:23 -0700 From: Hasan Diwan To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Neomagic 256 Message-ID: <20000702191623.A529@hdroam.reflexnet.net> Reply-To: hdiwan@pobox.com References: <200007022338.JAA17922@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007022338.JAA17922@lightning.itga.com.au>; from gnb@itga.com.au on Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 09:38:50AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With today's STABLE distribution, I am having difficulty wrt getting my Neomagic Sound chipset working on my laptop. It worked in CURRENT as of 29-Jun. I don't know what's wrong. Help! Contact me if you need more info. Thanks! -- Hasan Diwan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 15:27:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-51.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B867937B7D1 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:27:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05944; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:34:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007042234.PAA05944@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VIA chip set In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Jul 2000 15:03:46 PDT." <200007042203.PAA25510@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 15:34:47 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > One per customer, $399. Today only. > > Can anyone report results with the Athlon and the KX133 chipset? "works good" -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 16: 8:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDC237B75B for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA36647 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:11:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:11:08 +1000 From: Jonathan Michaels To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fstab mount options Message-ID: <20000705091107.A36569@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Reply-To: jon@welearn.com.au Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000703143451.G433@dialin-client.earthlink.net> <20000704001400.Z4112@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000704001400.Z4112@nathan.ruhr.de>; from Udo Erdelhoff on Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 12:14:00AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 12:14:00AM +0200, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > If you want mortal users to mount MSDOS floppies, tho', you may want to > > give /usr/ports/emulators/mtools a try :-) It also works for MSDOS ZIP disks. this may not work, as expected. i tried a few years ago (on freebsd v2.2.5-release and v2.2.7-release) to use mtools to do some stuff with floopies and it failed in a truely bizare manner .. sorry i cannot remember, neither do i have a floopy (that i can mangle - from memory) to test the how it failed mode. maybe mtools has changed, maybe the underlaying mechanisms in freebsd have changed, all i ca remember is that if you needed to do stuff with floopies via mtools you need to be root to be assured of a reliable result. just another data point regards jonathan -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 16:18:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC9B37B952 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:18:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Received: from localhost (lplist@localhost) by q.closedsrc.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e64NIEs01842; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:18:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:18:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIA chip set In-Reply-To: <200007042203.PAA25510@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know if the boxed AMD processors that they are including the new Thunderbird varieties? // Linh Pham // // Proud supporter of FreeBSD and OpenBSD // FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org // OpenBSD - http://www.openbsd.org /* "Oregon, n.: Eighty billion gallons of water with no place to go on Saturday night." */ On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > There might not be enough time for this, but: > > The local Fry's Electronics is having a 4th of July one day sale. > Featured is a 700MHz AMD Athlon barebones system, including > > Boxed AMD K7 CPU > mid tower ATX case with 300w power supply > and, most important, an installed motherboard > VIA KX133 chipset > 1 AGP slot > 5 PCI slots > 1 ISA slot > 56K modem > 10/100 Ethernet > Audio > 3 DIMM slots for PC-133 memory > > One per customer, $399. Today only. > > Can anyone report results with the Athlon and the KX133 chipset? > > -crl > -- > Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? > chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 16:25:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19C437B7EF for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:25:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e64NPCn20451; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007042325.e64NPCn20451@ptavv.es.net> To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: David Gilbert , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Jul 2000 01:08:36 EDT." <200007040508.BAA59763@whizzo.transsys.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 16:25:12 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Louis A. Mamakos" > Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 01:08:36 -0400 > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > >>>>> "Louis" == Louis A Mamakos writes: > > > > Louis> There's some confusion here, because the MTU is typically > > Louis> associated with a protocol stack like IP and refers to the > > Louis> largest sized (IP in this case) packet that can be sent on the > > Louis> network interface. In the case of Ethernet interfaces that > > Louis> support and use VLAN tags, the MTU is still 1500 bytes, > > Louis> regardless of the fact that the frame size is a few bytes > > Louis> longer to accomodate the VLAN tag information. > > > > Louis> So, this has no effect on the Ethernet type field (or 802.3 > > Louis> length fields) since the higher level protocol packet size is > > Louis> unchanged. > > > > Why, then, are the vlan MTUs hardwired at 1496? > > You got me. Perhaps the code is busted. Perhaps the code is trying > to accomodate ethernet NICs that cannot send or receive larger > than "normal" ethernet frames. (e.g., those with VLAN tags or > priority labels). > > I just know that on networks that I've built and used with Ethernet > switches which use VLAN tagging, I've had no problems transporting > 1500 byte MTU IP packets inside of ethernet frames. If the NIC card > in the FreeBSD host can't send the larger frames to accomodate the > VLAN tags, then it's broken. Louis has it exactly right. 802.3 was modified a couple of years ago to allow for a maximum frame size of 1522 octets, up from the original 1518. This was to allow the VLAN information to fit in the frame. Since the terminating switch/router should be removing this information, the end system (and MTU) should be unaffected, but many nets seem to not fully support the longer frames in their infrastructure and probably lots of Internet routers don't either. This is often a hardware issue, so the only fixes available are to upgrade all hardware to support the added octets or to reduce the MTU so that the frame size does not exceed 1518. In an enterprise, the upgrade is feasible, but in the Internet backbone, if you are not extremely lucky to have all VLAN supporting equipment along the path, the packet is fragmented or dropped. And there is a LOT of equipment out there that does not support VLANs. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 17:36:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (drugs.dv.isc.org [130.155.191.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30AE37B569 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 17:36:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marka@nominum.com) Received: from nominum.com (localhost.dv.isc.org [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20344; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 23:47:17 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@nominum.com) Message-Id: <200007041347.XAA20344@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: "Morten A. Middelthon" Cc: stable@freebsd.org From: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com Subject: Re: BIND 8.2.3-T5B in RELENG_4 source In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Jul 2000 13:19:24 +0200." Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 23:47:17 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > From the sources I cvsup'ed last night I got BIND 8.2.3-T5B in > src/contrib/bind, which is a beta version, and not recommended for > production use by ISC. Is this a mistake or is there some special reason > for it being there? If I was picking between BIND 8.2.2 and BIND 8.2.3-T5B to run I would choose BIND 8.2.3-T5B (ignoring the Windows port). At this stage there is only one pending bug fix that is related to changes post BIND 8.2.2-P5 and that one requires invalid answers to be sent from a master server. All the remaining bug fixes address issues that are in BIND 8.2.2-P5 and earlier. That being said I prefer to not see beta release make it into OS bases as those betas tend to hang around longer on more machines as a result. As someone who's job is to support/develop BIND there were some beta releases that I wish I could just erase from every machine on the planet. Mark -- Mark Andrews, Nominum Inc. 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 17:39:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zaphon.llamas.net (zaphon.llamas.net [207.203.36.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7E0D37B578 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 17:39:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grumple@zaphon.llamas.net) Received: (qmail 23775 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jul 2000 00:39:41 -0000 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 17:39:41 -0700 From: Greg Rumple To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: problems building world? Message-ID: <20000704173941.I5163@zaphon.llamas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0us X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just cvsup'd one of my 3.4-STABLE boxes today, and can no longer make world. I had to remove cvs-crypto from my supfile as well. Here is a small snip of the error I am encountering. cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c In file included from /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c:40: /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.h:54: roken.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c:41: getarg.h: No such file or directory Plus make is core dumping out as well. It takes 2 or 3 tries to get it that far. I'm not really ready to make the jump to 4.0 yet on these boxes (in case anyone was curious why I am still on 3.x).. -- Greg Rumple grumple@zaphon.llamas.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 18: 5:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AE037B952; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:05:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA32793; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:05:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:05:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Greg Rumple Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: KerberosIV in 3.x (Re: problems building world?) In-Reply-To: <20000704173941.I5163@zaphon.llamas.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Greg Rumple wrote: > I just cvsup'd one of my 3.4-STABLE boxes today, and can no longer make > world. I had to remove cvs-crypto from my supfile as well. Here is a > small snip of the error I am encountering. There was a major KerberosIV update that went in earlier today - if you don't require Kerberos, then just don't set "MAKE_KERBEROS4" in /etc/make.conf. Assar Westerlund will hopefully be addressing this shortly: sorry for the temporary breakage, folks, but it is a necessary update for security reasons. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 18: 7:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46C137B705 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:07:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (1Cust203.tnt9.chattanooga.tn.da.uu.net [63.39.120.203]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07685; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:07:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Richard Stanaford Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem building the world.. In-Reply-To: <20000703224443.1230.qmail@web3106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If we are into mine is bigger than yours, I have a 486DX66 with 20mb of ram that is my home (gateway/file server/cvs server) and does 120 or so crons that entail (curl downloads/perl processing of the files downloaded/upload files again) daily. Buildworlds take about a day and a half, but it continues to do all its chores while building with out complaining EVER!! DOUBLE (;-)) -- Jim Weeks -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > > > What amazes me is that it hasn't died with Sig 11's yet. Wow. And I don't > think I have a single component in the box that's less than four years old. > > I'm thinking about putting a Chevy emblem on it.. you know.. Like a Rock or > something.. LOL. Tough lil' box. > > -Richard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 18:18:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3106.mail.yahoo.com (web3106.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.191]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E4D137BBC6 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:18:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000705014612.16437.qmail@web3106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.141.203.127] by web3106.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 18:46:12 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:46:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: LC_TIME and STABLE... To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I have been searching the mailing list archives for the last two hours and I haven't found a clear solution to this problem.... While performing 'make installworld' on 4.0-STABLE I get the following... pid 4543 (sh), uid 0: exited on signal 12 (core dumped) "/usr/src/Makefile", line 101: warning: "LC_TIME=C date" returned non-zero status This is after performing the following steps.. cd /usr/src make buildworld cd /usr/src/sys/modules make install cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod make install reboot cd /usr/src cd gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info make install cd ../../../.. I tried the suggestion of 'make -k installworld' but that yeilds.. pid 4544 (sh), uid 0: exited on signal 12 (core dumped) "/usr/src/Makefile", line 101: warning: "LC_TIME=C date" returned non-zero status ***Signal 12 (continuing) 'installworld' not remade because of errors. If someone has the idea of editing the Makefile in /usr/src, there is a problem. Vi and Ee cannot open the dumb terminal and Pico complains about an incomplete termcap entry. So, unless there are other ideas out there, the Makefile cannot be edited in the current system state. /usr/src/UPDATES yeiled no info that I could find. Any ideas? Thanks, -rs __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 18:21:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3102.mail.yahoo.com (web3102.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 17B9837B952 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:21:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000705012124.24968.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.141.203.127] by web3102.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 18:21:24 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:21:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: ADDENDUM : LC_TIME and STABLE.. To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I forgot to mention guys.. I have not yet built and installed a 4.0-STABLE kernel yet. The kernel is still 3.0-RELEASE. Thanks, -rs __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 18:31:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA09A37B50F for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:31:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@gauss.cup.hp.com) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel1.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B859219; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gauss.cup.hp.com (gauss.cup.hp.com [15.28.97.152]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id SAA20716; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:31:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Marcel Moolenaar To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIA chip set In-Reply-To: <200007042203.PAA25510@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > There might not be enough time for this, but: You still have 2 hours... > Featured is a 700MHz AMD Athlon barebones system, including > > Boxed AMD K7 CPU > mid tower ATX case with 300w power supply > and, most important, an installed motherboard > VIA KX133 chipset > 1 AGP slot > 5 PCI slots > 1 ISA slot > 56K modem > 10/100 Ethernet > Audio > 3 DIMM slots for PC-133 memory > > One per customer, $399. Today only. Damn. I just bought this same configuration, only with a 750 Athlon friday... > Can anyone report results with the Athlon and the KX133 chipset? Works great for me. I do see a kernel panic when I leave my Logitech joystick plugged in the USB port, but that's on 5-current. -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 18:35:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E805637B5DF; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:35:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA36267; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:35:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:35:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Richard Stanaford Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ADDENDUM : LC_TIME and STABLE.. In-Reply-To: <20000705012124.24968.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Richard Stanaford wrote: > I forgot to mention guys.. > > I have not yet built and installed a 4.0-STABLE kernel yet. The kernel is > still 3.0-RELEASE. Well then, you didn't follow directions (you DID know of /usr/src/UPDATING, right? :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 18:36:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from assaris.sics.se (assaris.sics.se [193.10.66.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2839D37B50F; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:36:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from assar@assaris.sics.se) Received: (from assar@localhost) by assaris.sics.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA17175; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 03:36:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from assar) To: Greg Rumple , Kris Kennaway Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problems building world? (fwd) References: From: Assar Westerlund Date: 05 Jul 2000 03:36:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: Kris Kennaway's message of "Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:02:58 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: <5lpuotwe6s.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070098 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.98) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I just cvsup'd one of my 3.4-STABLE boxes today, and can no longer make > world. I had to remove cvs-crypto from my supfile as well. Here is a > small snip of the error I am encountering. > > cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c > In file included from /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c:40: > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.h:54: roken.h: No such file or directory > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c:41: getarg.h: No such file or directory This is probably my fault. I've just comitted the missing files (getarg.h and getarg.c) in contrib/com_err to RELENG-3 plus removed all the mentions of from the files there. > Plus make is core dumping out as well. It takes 2 or 3 tries to get it > that far. make should (of course) not dump core. When does it do that and can you get a core? /assar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 18:47:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400FE37B952 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:47:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A67A137F08; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA62207; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:47:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14690.37799.546582.824877@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:47:19 -0400 (EDT) To: "Kevin Oberman" Cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , David Gilbert , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? In-Reply-To: <200007042325.e64NPCn20451@ptavv.es.net> References: <200007040508.BAA59763@whizzo.transsys.com> <200007042325.e64NPCn20451@ptavv.es.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Oberman writes: Kevin> Louis has it exactly right. 802.3 was modified a couple of Kevin> years ago to allow for a maximum frame size of 1522 octets, up Kevin> from the original 1518. This was to allow the VLAN information Kevin> to fit in the frame. Kevin> Since the terminating switch/router should be removing this Kevin> information, the end system (and MTU) should be unaffected, but Kevin> many nets seem to not fully support the longer frames in their Kevin> infrastructure and probably lots of Internet routers don't Kevin> either. This is often a hardware issue, so the only fixes Kevin> available are to upgrade all hardware to support the added Kevin> octets or to reduce the MTU so that the frame size does not Kevin> exceed 1518. Kevin> In an enterprise, the upgrade is feasible, but in the Internet Kevin> backbone, if you are not extremely lucky to have all VLAN Kevin> supporting equipment along the path, the packet is fragmented Kevin> or dropped. And there is a LOT of equipment out there that does Kevin> not support VLANs. In this case, the BSD box is meant to be the terminator of the VLAN trunks. In this case, Linux (to use the awful L word) forwards 1500 byte packets into the VLANs. I just want my FreeBSD router to do the same. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 18:51: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9741537B952; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:51:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA37758; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:51:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:51:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Assar Westerlund Cc: Greg Rumple , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problems building world? (fwd) In-Reply-To: <5lpuotwe6s.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 5 Jul 2000, Assar Westerlund wrote: > > Plus make is core dumping out as well. It takes 2 or 3 tries to get it > > that far. > > make should (of course) not dump core. When does it do that and can > you get a core? If these coredumps are happening at "random" points in the build (i.e. different points each time), magic 8-ball says chances are good you have a hardware problem. Check CPU cooling, replace RAM, etc. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 18:59: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3103.mail.yahoo.com (web3103.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF0A937B952 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:58:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000705015858.16743.qmail@web3103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.141.200.178] by web3103.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 18:58:58 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:58:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: ADDENDUM : LC_TIME and STABLE.. To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sigh.. grr. I did read the file, but missed that little stipulation. I guess it's too little too late now... 'make depend' for the kernel failed.. sh died with SIG 12. I rebooted the box and I can't even enter single user mode now. I get another SIG 12 when I try to enter /bin/sh for the shell. Then I'm asked to enter the path again. No shell.. no access. Any ideas or should I scrap the install, wipe the disk, and start clean? Thanks, -rs --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > > I forgot to mention guys.. > > > > I have not yet built and installed a 4.0-STABLE kernel yet. The kernel is > > still 3.0-RELEASE. > > Well then, you didn't follow directions (you DID know of > /usr/src/UPDATING, right? :-) > > Kris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 19: 5:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8933337BC27; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:05:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Received: from localhost (lplist@localhost) by q.closedsrc.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e6525LS20950; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:05:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:05:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Richard Stanaford Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ADDENDUM : LC_TIME and STABLE.. In-Reply-To: <20000705015858.16743.qmail@web3103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are you able to boot into kernel.old or the generic kernel on / ? You should be able to go into the config (by pressing any key other than ENTER right after it loads the kernel) and unload kernel and load kernel.old or the generic kernel. // Linh Pham // // Proud supporter of FreeBSD and OpenBSD // FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org // OpenBSD - http://www.openbsd.org /* "Oregon, n.: Eighty billion gallons of water with no place to go on Saturday night." */ On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > Sigh.. grr. I did read the file, but missed that little stipulation. I guess > it's too little too late now... > > 'make depend' for the kernel failed.. sh died with SIG 12. > > I rebooted the box and I can't even enter single user mode now. I get another > SIG 12 when I try to enter /bin/sh for the shell. Then I'm asked to enter the > path again. No shell.. no access. > > Any ideas or should I scrap the install, wipe the disk, and start clean? > > Thanks, > -rs > > > > > > --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > > > > I forgot to mention guys.. > > > > > > I have not yet built and installed a 4.0-STABLE kernel yet. The kernel is > > > still 3.0-RELEASE. > > > > Well then, you didn't follow directions (you DID know of > > /usr/src/UPDATING, right? :-) > > > > Kris > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 19: 6:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571E737BD0D; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:06:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Received: from localhost (lplist@localhost) by q.closedsrc.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e6526KV20954; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:06:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Assar Westerlund , Greg Rumple , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems building world? (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It could also be bad cache or memory... // Linh Pham // // Proud supporter of FreeBSD and OpenBSD // FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org // OpenBSD - http://www.openbsd.org /* "Oregon, n.: Eighty billion gallons of water with no place to go on Saturday night." */ On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On 5 Jul 2000, Assar Westerlund wrote: > > > > Plus make is core dumping out as well. It takes 2 or 3 tries to get it > > > that far. > > > > make should (of course) not dump core. When does it do that and can > > you get a core? > > If these coredumps are happening at "random" points in the build (i.e. > different points each time), magic 8-ball says chances are good you have a > hardware problem. Check CPU cooling, replace RAM, etc. > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 19:14:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5758C37B77E for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:14:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.2/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id VAA40330; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:29:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <200007050229.VAA40330@aurora.sol.net> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: <48265.962741737_localhost@ns.sol.net> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Jul 4, 2000 8:17:50 pm" To: jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:29:37 -0500 (CDT) Cc: ler@lerctr.org, grog@lemis.com, Greg@fatcanary.com.au, stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Let's put it this way, I've posted a NUMBER of items to the -stable list > > over the last 2-4 weeks as I've fought this one. I can't get a > > CPU/BIOS/MB with a K6-2/550 on it to SUCCESSFULLY/RELIABLY make world. > > Well, it's certainly a hardware problem of some sort since we have > literally dozens of K6-2 systems here - we built a cluster of them for > package building and have a bunch of them also serving in various > FreeBSD desktop roles. They all work flawlessly, from FreeBSD 3.x all > the way up to 5.0-current. Where the hardware problem is with your > system is, of course, almost impossible to diagnose remotely but rest > assured that it is NOT a software issue. I'm also not saying that you > implied such was the case, I just wanted to state such publically and > for the record. Ditto. I'm slowly but surely dumping all my Intel Pentium stuff, plus most of my 486 or older stuff :-) I've been using the ASUS P/I-P55T2P4, the venerable Triton II overclocker's board, which I've got a plethora of, and some P5A's. My baseline systems are now K6/233's, ranging up to K6-III-400's (which still seem to be faster than their K6-2 higher speed counterparts). Only using Intel for the SMP stuff now. And on my laptop :-( -- ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 19:46:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.rdc3.on.home.com (mail2.rdc3.on.home.com [24.2.9.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D50137B52C for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:46:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pnmurphy@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.42.55.28]) by mail2.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000705024654.KDOF1114.mail2.rdc3.on.home.com@home.com>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:46:54 -0700 Message-ID: <3962A197.62560B50@home.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 22:46:47 -0400 From: Paul Murphy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Greco Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , ler@lerctr.org, grog@lemis.com, Greg@fatcanary.com.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 References: <200007050229.VAA40330@aurora.sol.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe Greco wrote: > > Ditto. I'm slowly but surely dumping all my Intel Pentium stuff, plus most > of my 486 or older stuff :-) I've been using the ASUS P/I-P55T2P4, the > venerable Triton II overclocker's board, which I've got a plethora of, and > some P5A's. My baseline systems are now K6/233's, ranging up to > K6-III-400's (which still seem to be faster than their K6-2 higher speed > counterparts). Only using Intel for the SMP stuff now. And on my laptop Is there a particular reason for going with the AMD's over Intel? When buying computers I have always stayed with the Intel CPU's because I thought it was similar to Soundblaster vs. others: all the others say they are "Soundblaster compatible" so why not buy the real thing? [forgive me if this sounds naive but it has been a while since I have bought a NEW computer] -- Paul Murphy http://members.home.com/pnmurphy/ Home Lat: 43° 33' 29" N, Lon: 79° 39' 03" W Work Lat: 43° 25' 30" N, Lon: 79° 42' 34" W To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 19:51:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181F137B52C; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:51:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA43928; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:51:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:51:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Linh Pham Cc: Richard Stanaford , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ADDENDUM : LC_TIME and STABLE.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > Are you able to boot into kernel.old or the generic kernel on / ? The problem is that he now has a /bin/sh which can't run under 3.x because it depends on 4.0 system calls. You should be able to repair the damage with a 4.0 repair floppy, by booting from a 4.0 kernel, but it may just be easier for you to reinstall from scratch. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 20:10:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zaphon.llamas.net (zaphon.llamas.net [207.203.36.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E35B37B571 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:10:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grumple@zaphon.llamas.net) Received: (qmail 25667 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jul 2000 03:10:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:10:35 -0700 From: Greg Rumple To: Assar Westerlund Cc: Kris Kennaway , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problems building world? (fwd) Message-ID: <20000704201035.L5163@zaphon.llamas.net> References: <5lpuotwe6s.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0us In-Reply-To: <5lpuotwe6s.fsf@assaris.sics.se>; from assar@sics.se on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 03:36:42AM +0200 X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Assar Westerlund (assar@sics.se) [000705 01:36]: > > I just cvsup'd one of my 3.4-STABLE boxes today, and can no longer make > > world. I had to remove cvs-crypto from my supfile as well. Here is a > > small snip of the error I am encountering. > > > > cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c > > In file included from /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c:40: > > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.h:54: roken.h: No such file or directory > > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c:41: getarg.h: No such file or directory > > This is probably my fault. I've just comitted the missing files > (getarg.h and getarg.c) in contrib/com_err to RELENG-3 plus removed > all the mentions of from the files there. Yeah these fixes go a long way towards fixing it, but there is still tons of problems. For one I had to comment out all the RCSID calls, and than there are two undefined symbols (set_progname and print_version). > > > Plus make is core dumping out as well. It takes 2 or 3 tries to get it > > that far. > > make should (of course) not dump core. When does it do that and can > you get a core? I'm trying to reproduce this now. It core dumps, but with two lines of debug info from make above it (about chunk free and something else, unfortunately I didn't log this). > > /assar -- Greg Rumple grumple@zaphon.llamas.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 20:48: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zaphon.llamas.net (zaphon.llamas.net [207.203.36.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DCEE237BB35 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:48:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grumple@zaphon.llamas.net) Received: (qmail 26009 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jul 2000 03:48:01 -0000 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:48:01 -0700 From: Greg Rumple To: Assar Westerlund Cc: Kris Kennaway , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problems building world? (fwd) Message-ID: <20000704204801.P5163@zaphon.llamas.net> References: <5lpuotwe6s.fsf@assaris.sics.se> <20000704201035.L5163@zaphon.llamas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0us In-Reply-To: <20000704201035.L5163@zaphon.llamas.net>; from grumple@zaphon.llamas.net on Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 08:10:35PM -0700 X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Greg Rumple (grumple@zaphon.llamas.net) [000705 03:11]: > * Assar Westerlund (assar@sics.se) [000705 01:36]: > > > I just cvsup'd one of my 3.4-STABLE boxes today, and can no longer make > > > world. I had to remove cvs-crypto from my supfile as well. Here is a > > > small snip of the error I am encountering. > > > > > > cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c > > > In file included from /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c:40: > > > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.h:54: roken.h: No such file or directory > > > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c:41: getarg.h: No such file or directory > > > > This is probably my fault. I've just comitted the missing files > > (getarg.h and getarg.c) in contrib/com_err to RELENG-3 plus removed > > all the mentions of from the files there. > > Yeah these fixes go a long way towards fixing it, but there is still > tons of problems. For one I had to comment out all the RCSID calls, and > than there are two undefined symbols (set_progname and print_version). > > > > > > Plus make is core dumping out as well. It takes 2 or 3 tries to get it > > > that far. > > > > make should (of course) not dump core. When does it do that and can > > you get a core? > > I'm trying to reproduce this now. It core dumps, but with two lines of > debug info from make above it (about chunk free and something else, > unfortunately I didn't log this). Got it, here is the error I keep seeing (at different places).. make in free(): warning: modified (chunk-) pointer. Segmentation fault - core dumped *** Error code 139 > > > > > /assar > > -- > Greg Rumple > grumple@zaphon.llamas.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Greg Rumple grumple@zaphon.llamas.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 20:54:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D30337B68E for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:54:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA98154; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:21:57 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:21:57 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Paul Murphy Cc: Joe Greco , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , ler@lerctr.org, Greg@fatcanary.com.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000705132157.I97425@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200007050229.VAA40330@aurora.sol.net> <3962A197.62560B50@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <3962A197.62560B50@home.com> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 4 July 2000 at 22:46:47 -0400, Paul Murphy wrote: > Joe Greco wrote: >> >> Ditto. I'm slowly but surely dumping all my Intel Pentium stuff, plus most >> of my 486 or older stuff :-) I've been using the ASUS P/I-P55T2P4, the >> venerable Triton II overclocker's board, which I've got a plethora of, and >> some P5A's. My baseline systems are now K6/233's, ranging up to >> K6-III-400's (which still seem to be faster than their K6-2 higher speed >> counterparts). Only using Intel for the SMP stuff now. And on my laptop > > Is there a particular reason for going with the AMD's over Intel? When > buying computers I have always stayed with the Intel CPU's because I > thought it was similar to Soundblaster vs. others: all the others say > they are "Soundblaster compatible" so why not buy the real thing? An obvious reason is the bang to buck ratio. AMD CPUs are cheaper for a given performance, often very much so. I note also an article in c't issue 13/2000, which suggests that Intel is currently in big trouble delivering high-performance processor hardware, whereas AMD seems to be doing pretty well. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 20:55:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F5737B555; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:55:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA53849; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:55:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:55:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Greg Rumple Cc: Assar Westerlund , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problems building world? (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20000704204801.P5163@zaphon.llamas.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Greg Rumple wrote: > * Greg Rumple (grumple@zaphon.llamas.net) [000705 03:11]: > > * Assar Westerlund (assar@sics.se) [000705 01:36]: > > > > I just cvsup'd one of my 3.4-STABLE boxes today, and can no longer make > > > > world. I had to remove cvs-crypto from my supfile as well. Here is a > > > > small snip of the error I am encountering. > > > > > > > > cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c > > > > In file included from /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c:40: > > > > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.h:54: roken.h: No such file or directory > > > > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/compile_et.c:41: getarg.h: No such file or directory > > > > > > This is probably my fault. I've just comitted the missing files > > > (getarg.h and getarg.c) in contrib/com_err to RELENG-3 plus removed > > > all the mentions of from the files there. > > > > Yeah these fixes go a long way towards fixing it, but there is still > > tons of problems. For one I had to comment out all the RCSID calls, and > > than there are two undefined symbols (set_progname and print_version). > > > > > > > > > Plus make is core dumping out as well. It takes 2 or 3 tries to get it > > > > that far. > > > > > > make should (of course) not dump core. When does it do that and can > > > you get a core? > > > > I'm trying to reproduce this now. It core dumps, but with two lines of > > debug info from make above it (about chunk free and something else, > > unfortunately I didn't log this). > > Got it, here is the error I keep seeing (at different places).. > > make in free(): warning: modified (chunk-) pointer. > Segmentation fault - core dumped > *** Error code 139 Well, that just looks weird. Try rebuilding your make after verifying the sources are up-to-date. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 21:19:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5BA37B560 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:19:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.2/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id XAA49189; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 23:35:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <200007050435.XAA49189@aurora.sol.net> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: <3962A197.62560B50@home.com> from Paul Murphy at "Jul 4, 2000 10:46:47 pm" To: pnmurphy@home.com (Paul Murphy) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 23:35:37 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com, ler@lerctr.org, grog@lemis.com, Greg@fatcanary.com.au, stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Joe Greco wrote: > > Ditto. I'm slowly but surely dumping all my Intel Pentium stuff, plus most > > of my 486 or older stuff :-) I've been using the ASUS P/I-P55T2P4, the > > venerable Triton II overclocker's board, which I've got a plethora of, and > > some P5A's. My baseline systems are now K6/233's, ranging up to > > K6-III-400's (which still seem to be faster than their K6-2 higher speed > > counterparts). Only using Intel for the SMP stuff now. And on my laptop > > Is there a particular reason for going with the AMD's over Intel? When > buying computers I have always stayed with the Intel CPU's because I > thought it was similar to Soundblaster vs. others: all the others say > they are "Soundblaster compatible" so why not buy the real thing? > > [forgive me if this sounds naive but it has been a while since I have > bought a NEW computer] Because sometimes, somebody else does it better, faster, and more compatible. And they do it cheaper, on top of it. Intel didn't make anything faster than a 386/33. AMD put out a 386/40 and got it on boards that sold for $99 - that's $50 less than the Intel and board. My Intel 386's had a tendency to be very full of many chips and hence seemed to run very warm and occasionally crash. My AMD 386's worked for years - some boards were hardly more than enough PCB to hold the slots and RAM. I recently decomm'd a 2.0R box that had idly been running in the corner for half a decade or something like that. CPU? AMD 386/40. Intel made a bastard selection of 486's. They stopped at the 486/100, and I never did see one that ran stable enough to do a buildworld, at least not when they were still selling them (seen a few since). The ones I had did have an annoying tendency to run _hot_, and you could melt both the fan and the socket if the fan seized up, which they tended to do because they ran so damn hot. AMD made reliable CPU's like the 486DX2/80, a 100, a 133, and a 160... unfortunately the 160 required a faster system clock, so I topped out at 133. But the 133 came in three variants, the ADW, a "standard" unit which needed a fan/heatsink, the ADY, a unit which needed only a heatsink, and the ADZ, a unit which could run without fan or heatsink. Later experience shows the ADW doesn't need the fan, actually. And all of them were cheaper than the Intel counterparts. Meanwhile, Intel was off doing the Pentium thing, and AMD was kicking Intel's low-end-Pentium @$$ with their high-end 486's. Especially when put on a good board like an ASUS PCI/I-SP3G, the AMD CPU's excelled. The 133 was billed as "P75 equivalentish", but actually ran better than many early P90's I saw, mainly due to crappy chipsets on the Pentium boards. And don't forget that Intel took a beating with the FPU bug. Sure, I'll take a CPU that can't do floating math correctly, and pay more. Sure. How many P60's, P75's, and P90's did they grind into powder, I wonder? So then AMD started losing, for a while. And I'm embarrassed to admit that when the SP3G was discontinued, I actually started buying Intel CPU's, since I could not find another good 486 board, and the AMD parts were getting hard to find. But we all hated the early Pentium chipsets, and everything up to the Triton I stank. AMD was still working on the K5, but it just wasn't viable for reasons that escape me (maybe high price, maybe not available soon enough, and I also am notorious for doing swap-and-trades). In the meantime, Intel raced along and finally outted the Pentium Pro, and things were looking sour for AMD. Except the PPro didn't take off, and Intel fell behind - again - as AMD went to town putting out faster and faster K5's and then K6's. Then Intel gets clobbered with the F00F thing. Definite justification to eradicate all those old damn Intel Pentium CPU's. So AMD is putting out this wide range of K6's, all the way from K6/200's to K6-III-400's, all of which work with existing boards, and do not exhibit the monopolistic arrogance of Intel's Slot 1/2. In the meantime, AMD was actually developing new architectures, as was Intel, and it became more of a head-to-head race to see who could develop the better CPU. So? Here, for me, today, I find myself in a dream world. For many/most of the tasks I would want to assign a machine to, I don't really need any mondo mega super server. A good 486 would probably do... a 486 web server can saturate a T1, after all. So, I've got this plethora of ASUS P/I-P55T2P4's, and a good supply of various AMD CPU's, and so I'm building servers for pretty much any task. Why? Because I can. :-) The stuff is cheaper than Intel, is backwards-compatible with legacy boards, and yet is modern enough to offer some real horsepower. And AMD is creaming Intel with the K7/Athlon. AMD has historically been _very_ good to me. The price is less, the performance is as good as (or better), and they have historically done more to maintain compatibility with older technology. Why support a company like Intel, who has repeatedly pulled stunts like Slot 1/2 in order to maintain a "motherboard monopoly"? The only things I'll grant w.r.t. Intel CPU is that they do SMP, and that I have not had many serious problems with their CPU's since about the P200 days. Intel finally figured out how to make CPU's - a trick AMD mastered years back. Yeah, so I'm an AMD fan. Sue me. :-) -- ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 22:12:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown2-2-178.adsl.one.net [216.23.15.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72E437B6FC for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:12:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA07563; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:05:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:05:51 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: Paul Murphy Cc: Joe Greco , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , ler@lerctr.org, grog@lemis.com, Greg@fatcanary.com.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000705010551.A7490@cokane.yi.org> References: <200007050229.VAA40330@aurora.sol.net> <3962A197.62560B50@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3962A197.62560B50@home.com>; from pnmurphy@home.com on Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 10:47:59PM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Paul Murphy had the audacity to say: > Joe Greco wrote: > > > > Ditto. I'm slowly but surely dumping all my Intel Pentium stuff, plus most > > of my 486 or older stuff :-) I've been using the ASUS P/I-P55T2P4, the > > venerable Triton II overclocker's board, which I've got a plethora of, and > > some P5A's. My baseline systems are now K6/233's, ranging up to > > K6-III-400's (which still seem to be faster than their K6-2 higher speed > > counterparts). Only using Intel for the SMP stuff now. And on my laptop > The cpu's are a little different. The difference being that the Cyrstal 4324 is definately not anywhere near as good quality as a Sounblaster AWE32. The AMD chips, for the price are better performers than the Intel CPUs. You also don't want to compare speed for speed performance, try upgradeability and price comparisons. Maybe a K6-2 266 is almost as fast as a P55C-233MMZ for non-optimized FPU math, the P55C is about 2x the price in cost. If you buy a K6-2 400 (still cheaper than a P55C 233 and even a PII-300, yet kick both asses) you are getting better performance for a cheaper price. If you compare the PII-400 vs. the K6-2 400, of course the PII-400 will win, but they are about $130. The K6-2 400 is only $40-$50 and dropping. Just wait until you can get a nice Socket A board for your server with an early Duron 600 for $70 for the CPU and $100 for the mobo. Beat that with intel chips? I don't think so. On top of that, the Duron's will be SMP-able in the near future with the AMD770. > Is there a particular reason for going with the AMD's over Intel? When > buying computers I have always stayed with the Intel CPU's because I > thought it was similar to Soundblaster vs. others: all the others say > they are "Soundblaster compatible" so why not buy the real thing? > > [forgive me if this sounds naive but it has been a while since I have > bought a NEW computer] > -- > Paul Murphy > http://members.home.com/pnmurphy/ > Home Lat: 43° 33' 29" N, Lon: 79° 39' 03" W > Work Lat: 43° 25' 30" N, Lon: 79° 42' 34" W > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 22:22:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from public.bta.net.cn (public.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A147937BC15 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:22:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: from netrinsics.com (bt-219-091.bta.net.cn [202.106.219.91]) by public.bta.net.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18012 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:18:45 +0800 (GMT) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01621; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:23:01 +0800 (+0800) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:23:01 +0800 (+0800) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <200007050523.NAA01621@netrinsics.com> To: jdp@polstra.com Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Crypto changes coming soon In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What about the USA_RESIDENT settings? I know for a fact (don't ask) that if you cvsup your sources from freefall, those sources will try to install the bogus rsaref code, even if your USA_RESIDENT is set to "NO" in /etc/make.conf, whereas the right thing happens if you use USA_RESIDENT=NO when building from internat sources. Is this all going to be sorted out before the repository merge? -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 22:24:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3102.mail.yahoo.com (web3102.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88EC737BC15 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:24:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000705052442.11355.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.141.200.127] by web3102.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 22:24:42 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:24:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: ADDENDUM : LC_TIME and STABLE.. To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Aye.. I'm reinstalling now. By letting the machine reboot, I lost control of the box and the situation became untenable. Since I am reduced now to the floppy route, I will start anew rather than try to completely asses what damage has been wrought. You live, you learn. Fortunately this is a more of a toy for me and hardly in a production environment. 4.0-RELEASE is getting laid down now... I can CVSUP overnight (8 hour download over a 56K connection) and then go STABLE from there. Thanks all for the help, -rs --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > > > Are you able to boot into kernel.old or the generic kernel on / ? > > The problem is that he now has a /bin/sh which can't run under 3.x because > it depends on 4.0 system calls. > > You should be able to repair the damage with a 4.0 repair floppy, by > booting from a 4.0 kernel, but it may just be easier for you to reinstall > from scratch. > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 22:53:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from assaris.sics.se (assaris.sics.se [193.10.66.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD2737B71B; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:53:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from assar@assaris.sics.se) Received: (from assar@localhost) by assaris.sics.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA17481; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:53:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from assar) To: Greg Rumple Cc: Kris Kennaway , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problems building world? (fwd) References: <5lpuotwe6s.fsf@assaris.sics.se> <20000704201035.L5163@zaphon.llamas.net> From: Assar Westerlund Date: 05 Jul 2000 07:53:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: Greg Rumple's message of "Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:10:35 -0700" Message-ID: <5llmzhw2ak.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070098 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.98) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Rumple writes: > > This is probably my fault. I've just comitted the missing files > > (getarg.h and getarg.c) in contrib/com_err to RELENG-3 plus removed > > all the mentions of from the files there. > > Yeah these fixes go a long way towards fixing it, but there is still > tons of problems. For one I had to comment out all the RCSID calls, and > than there are two undefined symbols (set_progname and print_version). Sorry, I don't know how I screwed up the merge from current of com_err, but now I've comitted fixes for all the RCSID (and the calls) and my `buildworld' has gotten past com_err. /assar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 22:53:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from io.dreamscape.com (io.dreamscape.com [206.64.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2ABD37B71B for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:53:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from krentel@dreamscape.com) Received: from dreamscape.com (sA16-p48.dreamscape.com [209.217.195.175]) by io.dreamscape.com (8.9.3/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA17285 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:52:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Dreamscape-Track-A: sA16-p48.dreamscape.com [209.217.195.175] X-Dreamscape-Track-B: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:52:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from krentel@localhost) by dreamscape.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA02246 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:53:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from krentel) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:53:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark W. Krentel" Message-Id: <200007050553.BAA02246@dreamscape.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.1 disks Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it decided yet what will be on the 4.1 disks? Is there room for the distfiles, and is it still 4 disks? I was really hoping that the distfiles could be included. For me, that's one of the main reasons for getting the disks. If the sizes are getting out of hand, you might consider going to two sets of disks. A basic set could include the installation, live file system and packages, mainly for people who don't use a lot of source code. Then a developers set could include the distfiles and CVS repository. Perhaps the Power Pak is what I'm calling the developers set. That's fine, but then I'd like to see the Power Pak be released at the same time as the regular set. --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 23:17:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from njord.bart.nl (njord.bart.nl [194.158.170.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0479337B6E1 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 23:17:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (lucifer.is.an.elder.of.the.ninth-circle.org [195.38.216.226]) by njord.bart.nl (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e656HUw55251; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:17:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA68431; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:17:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:17:23 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com Cc: "Morten A. Middelthon" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 8.2.3-T5B in RELENG_4 source Message-ID: <20000705081722.R35215@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <200007041347.XAA20344@drugs.dv.isc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007041347.XAA20344@drugs.dv.isc.org>; from Mark.Andrews@nominum.com on Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 11:47:17PM +1000 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20000705 04:01], Mark.Andrews@nominum.com (Mark.Andrews@nominum.com) wrote: > >> From the sources I cvsup'ed last night I got BIND 8.2.3-T5B in >> src/contrib/bind, which is a beta version, and not recommended for >> production use by ISC. Is this a mistake or is there some special reason >> for it being there? > > If I was picking between BIND 8.2.2 and BIND 8.2.3-T5B to > run I would choose BIND 8.2.3-T5B (ignoring the Windows > port). At this stage there is only one pending bug fix > that is related to changes post BIND 8.2.2-P5 and that one > requires invalid answers to be sent from a master server. > All the remaining bug fixes address issues that are in BIND > 8.2.2-P5 and earlier. *nod* > That being said I prefer to not see beta release make it > into OS bases as those betas tend to hang around longer on > more machines as a result. I can agree with the sentiment Mark. However, I personally experienced quite a few of the bugs in 8.2.2-p5 a few times. And seeing that 8.2.3 solved these encouraged me to get it in -CURRENT. However since 8.2.3-t5b has been rockstable for me for quite some time now and fixes quite a few bugs which are present in 8.2.2-p5, this was a motivator for me to give Paul Saab a yes on the Merge From CURRENT. It is not my intention to start spreading early beta's with the system. I feel that the t5b release is sufficiently close to the actual release that it doesn't hurt the overal picture of DNS nameserving on a global scale. And do try to stay on top of things like this. ;) > As someone who's job is to support/develop BIND there were > some beta releases that I wish I could just erase from > every machine on the planet. I can imagine that. And apologies if you feel a bit unnerving about this. But fortunately our release model allows for easy replacement of older BIND versions. People tracking STABLE and CURRENT will automatically recompile BIND when they `make world'. And I'll make sure sufficient HEADS-UP will be posted on the mailinglists. -- Jeroen Ruigrok vd Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl|freebsd.org] Documentation nutter/C-rated Coder BSD: Technical excellence at its best The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Als men blijft geloven kan de zwaarste steen niet zinken... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 23:52:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br (bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br [143.106.51.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B4837BE69 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 23:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from atabraga@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br) Received: by bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 012C119C0; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 03:52:07 -0300 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <14690.56083.871132.718345@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 03:52:03 -0300 (EST) From: Ataualpa Albert Carmo Braga To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.3.1 Reply-To: atabraga@iqm.unicamp.br X-URL: http://www.iqm.unicamp.br Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Only more one information about performance. I works at Unicamp university (Brazil), with computational chemistry, and a professor make some real tests (energy and optimize calculations, for example) and got better results for a AMD 700 (Athlon) than with a Pentium 3 850. Than, I think so, the Intel's imperium maybe is close to the end. Ata. > on Wednesday, 5 Jul 2000 01:05:51, Coleman Kane wrote: > > Paul Murphy had the audacity to say: > > > Joe Greco wrote: > > > > > > > > Ditto. I'm slowly but surely dumping all my Intel Pentium stuff, plus most > > > > of my 486 or older stuff :-) I've been using the ASUS P/I-P55T2P4, the > > > > venerable Triton II overclocker's board, which I've got a plethora of, and > > > > some P5A's. My baseline systems are now K6/233's, ranging up to > > > > K6-III-400's (which still seem to be faster than their K6-2 higher speed > > > > counterparts). Only using Intel for the SMP stuff now. And on my laptop > > > > > > > The cpu's are a little different. The difference being that the Cyrstal > > 4324 is definately not anywhere near as good quality as a Sounblaster > > AWE32. The AMD chips, for the price are better performers than the Intel > > CPUs. You also don't want to compare speed for speed performance, try > > upgradeability and price comparisons. Maybe a K6-2 266 is almost as fast > > as a P55C-233MMZ for non-optimized FPU math, the P55C is about 2x the > > price in cost. If you buy a K6-2 400 (still cheaper than a P55C 233 and > > even a PII-300, yet kick both asses) you are getting better performance > > for a cheaper price. If you compare the PII-400 vs. the K6-2 400, of > > course the PII-400 will win, but they are about $130. The K6-2 400 is > > only $40-$50 and dropping. Just wait until you can get a nice Socket A > > board for your server with an early Duron 600 for $70 for the CPU and > > $100 for the mobo. Beat that with intel chips? I don't think so. On > > top of that, the Duron's will be SMP-able in the near future with the > > AMD770. > > > > > Is there a particular reason for going with the AMD's over Intel? When > > > buying computers I have always stayed with the Intel CPU's because I > > > thought it was similar to Soundblaster vs. others: all the others say > > > they are "Soundblaster compatible" so why not buy the real thing? > > > > > > [forgive me if this sounds naive but it has been a while since I have > > > bought a NEW computer] > > > -- > > > Paul Murphy > > > http://members.home.com/pnmurphy/ > > > Home Lat: 43° 33' 29" N, Lon: 79° 39' 03" W > > > Work Lat: 43° 25' 30" N, Lon: 79° 42' 34" W > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > -- > > Coleman Kane > > President, > > UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 0: 7:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from postoffice.aims.com.au (advanc2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.119.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2948D37B7B3 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:07:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@aims.com.au) Received: from postoffice.aims.com.au (nts-ts1.aims.private [192.168.10.2]) by postoffice.aims.com.au with ESMTP id RAA08844 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:07:31 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from chris@aims.com.au) Received: from ntsts1 by aims.com.au with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.0.R) for ; Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:07:34 +1000 Reply-To: From: "Chris Knight" To: Subject: RE: 4.1 disks Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:07:33 +1000 Message-ID: <002001bfe64f$b11484a0$020aa8c0@aims.private> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <200007050553.BAA02246@dreamscape.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Return-Path: chris@aims.com.au X-MDRcpt-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Howdy, I'd have to agree here. I went to install the CVS repository, only to find that the last disk set containing this was 3.1. I then had to grab 18 months of repository updates - about 450MB worth. While I didn't mind that, I'm sure that the cvsup servers and their maintainers would have an easier time of it if the repository was available on CD at the same time a release is made. It saves people time, money and bandwidth. Also, distfiles should be made available. Not necessarily with the release, but at least on a release supplement set. It would also be possible to make the next release a 6 CD set by using the fold-out trays for the front and back cover. This shouldn't add too much to the packaging costs of a CD set. I know this has been discussed before, but it would be nice to know what is planned for subsequent releases. Regards, Chris Knight Systems Administrator AIMS Independent Computer Professionals Tel: +61 3 6334 6664 Fax: +61 3 6331 7032 Mob: +61 419 528 795 Web: http://www.aims.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mark W. Krentel > Sent: Wednesday, 5 July 2000 15:53 > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: 4.1 disks > > > Is it decided yet what will be on the 4.1 disks? Is there room for > the distfiles, and is it still 4 disks? > > I was really hoping that the distfiles could be included. For me, > that's one of the main reasons for getting the disks. If the sizes > are getting out of hand, you might consider going to two sets of > disks. A basic set could include the installation, live file system > and packages, mainly for people who don't use a lot of source code. > Then a developers set could include the distfiles and CVS repository. > > Perhaps the Power Pak is what I'm calling the developers set. That's > fine, but then I'd like to see the Power Pak be released at the same > time as the regular set. > > --Mark > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 0: 9: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spmler1.mail.eds.com (spmler1.mail.eds.com [194.128.225.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BC537B7B7 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:08:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from christer.moller@eds.com) Received: from nnse.eds.com (nnse.eds.com [205.191.69.78]) by spmler1.mail.eds.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04232 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:17:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from nnse.eds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nnse.eds.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03346 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:08:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from gbspm001.exemhub.exch.eds.com ([207.37.51.199]) by nnse.eds.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03342 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:08:34 +0100 (BST) Received: by GBSPM001 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:08:30 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Moller, Christer B" To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Problem with cvs-cur.6450 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:08:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have tried to get CTM package cvs-cur.6450.gz from different sites around the world, but it doesn't matter where I get it from, I'm still fail putting it in. ctm reports the following: nnsb# ctm -v -v CTM-delta/cvs-cur.6450.gz Working on Fatal error. (/usr/src/usr.sbin/ctm/ctm/ctm_input.c:81) CTM-delta/cvs-cur.6450.gz Fatal error: Bytecount too large. ctm: exit(65) nnsb# Anyone know what the problem is? Regards, B. Christer Moller EDS Sweden AB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 0:10:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.binep.ac.ru (ns.binep.ac.ru [193.233.37.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5737137B7B3; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:10:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goshik@binep.ac.ru) Received: from serv2.binep.ac.ru (serv2 [193.233.44.77]) by ns.binep.ac.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA78118; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:10:55 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from goshik@binep.ac.ru) Reply-To: "Igor B. Bykhalo" From: "Igor B. Bykhalo" To: "-questions@FreeBSD" Cc: "-stable@FreeBSD" Subject: Compilation errors: "Could not find a spill register" - any ideas? Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:05:53 +0300 Message-ID: <01bfe657$d7feb380$0000e9c1@serv2.binep.ac.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0913.2206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0913.2200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After yesterday's CVSup at 13:00 MSK I made a buildworld and installworld of 4.0-STABLE (not an upgrade from 3.x). These completed successfully, but then strange things happened (2 attempts to build kernel and 1 to compile sysinstall): -----8<-------- In /usr/src #make buildkernel -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding kernel(s) -------------------------------------------------------------- ===> BOLT mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/sys cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin config -r -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BOLT BOLT Removing old directory /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BOLT: Done. Don't forget to do a ``make depend'' Kernel build directory is /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BOLT cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BOLT; MAKESRCPATH=/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx make -f usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/Makefile; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503 DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin MACHINE=i386 KERNEL=BOLT make depend; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503 DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/ i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin MACHINE=i386 KERNEL=BOLT make all Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BOLT yacc -d /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_gram.y mv y.tab.c aicasm_gram.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/include -I. -c aicasm_gram.c /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_gram.y: In function `process_bitmask': /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_gram.y:1019: Could not find a spill register (insn 87 85 89 (set (mem/s:QI (plus:SI (reg:SI 0 %eax) (const_int 4 [0x4])) 0) (subreg:QI (reg/v:SI 5 %edi) 0)) 58 {movqi+1} (insn_list 85 (nil)) (expr_list:REG_DEAD (reg:SI 0 %eax) (nil))) cpp: output pipe has been closed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BOLT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. -----8<-------- In /sys/compile/BOLT after config -r BOLT: #make depend [completes fine] #make cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -W inline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include pt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../i386/i386/locore.s cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -f format-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include pt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 device_if.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -f format-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include pt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 bus_if.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -f format-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include pt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../dev/ed/if_ed_pci.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -f format-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include pt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ppbus_if.c cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -f format-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include pt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../dev/ppbus/lpt.c ../../dev/ppbus/lpt.c: In function `lpt_port_test': ../../dev/ppbus/lpt.c:260: Could not find a spill register (insn 12 8 13 (set (reg/v:QI 25) (mem:QI (plus:SI (reg:SI 6 %ebp) (const_int 16 [0x10])) 0)) 58 {movqi+1} (nil) (nil)) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/BOLT. -----8<-------- In /usr/src/release/sysinstall: #make Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/release/sysinstall cc -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../gnu/lib/libdialog -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/ ../../sys -c anonFTP.c anonFTP.c: In function `configAnonFTP': anonFTP.c:314: Could not find a spill register (insn 107 106 108 (parallel[ (set (reg:SI 2 %ecx) (unspec:SI[ (mem:BLK (reg:SI 5 %edi) 0) (const_int 0 [0x0]) (const_int 1 [0x1]) ] 0)) (clobber (reg:SI 5 %edi)) ] ) 411 {strlensi+1} (insn_list 106 (nil)) (expr_list:REG_UNUSED (reg:SI 5 %edi) (nil))) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release/sysinstall. -----8<-------- I've never seen this error before... Anyone can shed the light on what's going on there? Thanks, Igor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 0:32:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snoopy.brwn.org (intgw1.brwn.org [196.28.127.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CA437B52C for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:31:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from willem@snoopy.brwn.org) Received: by snoopy.brwn.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B3A0D1D95; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:31:46 +0200 (SAST) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:31:46 +0200 From: Willem Brown To: Chris Knight Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 disks Message-ID: <20000705093146.A24297@snoopy.brwn.org> References: <200007050553.BAA02246@dreamscape.com> <002001bfe64f$b11484a0$020aa8c0@aims.private> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <002001bfe64f$b11484a0$020aa8c0@aims.private>; from chris@aims.com.au on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 05:07:33PM +1000 X-Public-Key: http://willem.brwn.org/pubkey.txt X-Chat-Server: http://chat.brwn.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Walnut Creek Inc. sells The Toolkit which contains these things you are looking for. http://www.cdrom.com/titles/freebsd/bsdtool.phtml Regards Willem Brown On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 05:07:33PM +1000, Chris Knight wrote: > Howdy, > > I'd have to agree here. I went to install the CVS repository, only to find > that the last disk set containing this was 3.1. I then had to grab 18 months > of repository updates - about 450MB worth. While I didn't mind that, I'm > sure that the cvsup servers and their maintainers would have an easier time > of it if the repository was available on CD at the same time a release is > made. It saves people time, money and bandwidth. > > Also, distfiles should be made available. Not necessarily with the release, > but at least on a release supplement set. It would also be possible to make > the next release a 6 CD set by using the fold-out trays for the front and > back cover. This shouldn't add too much to the packaging costs of a CD set. > > I know this has been discussed before, but it would be nice to know what is > planned for subsequent releases. > > Regards, > Chris Knight > Systems Administrator > AIMS Independent Computer Professionals > Tel: +61 3 6334 6664 Fax: +61 3 6331 7032 Mob: +61 419 528 795 > Web: http://www.aims.com.au > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mark W. Krentel > > Sent: Wednesday, 5 July 2000 15:53 > > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: 4.1 disks > > > > > > Is it decided yet what will be on the 4.1 disks? Is there room for > > the distfiles, and is it still 4 disks? > > > > I was really hoping that the distfiles could be included. For me, > > that's one of the main reasons for getting the disks. If the sizes > > are getting out of hand, you might consider going to two sets of > > disks. A basic set could include the installation, live file system > > and packages, mainly for people who don't use a lot of source code. > > Then a developers set could include the distfiles and CVS repository. > > > > Perhaps the Power Pak is what I'm calling the developers set. That's > > fine, but then I'd like to see the Power Pak be released at the same > > time as the regular set. > > > > --Mark > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- /* =============================================================== */ /* Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD. The choice is yours. */ /* =============================================================== */ Respect is a rational process -- McCoy, "The Galileo Seven", stardate 2822.3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 0:48:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94F237B745 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:48:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id JAA29932; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:47:23 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 29844; Wed Jul 5 09:46:42 2000 Message-ID: <4f463cfed0be2648d60e440d5cf2af66@cequrux.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 09:48:16 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kazutaka YOKOTA , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, support@synaptics.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD-4.0S/psmintr out of sync/Synaptics Touchpad References: <200006090141.KAA27612@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Following up on my previous report, I've experienced more weirdness. The story so far: Standard PS/2 devices should generate three byte packets, consisting of a status byte, and X delta, and a Y delta. I've had lots of problems with my Synaptics touchpad on a Compaq Presario 1600 laptop running FreeBSD 4.0-S. At an earlier stage I found that I frequently got zero bytes in between the three byte packets. I adjusted the driver to skip these if present and had better success, but by no means complete success. This weekend I did a lot of experimentation and logging, and found I was getting zero bytes between the sync byte and the X displacement byte. It seemed weird to me that this was inconsistent with what I had before, but again I adjusted the driver for it, and things were working better than ever. Last night I used the zzz command to put the laptop into sleep mode. When I woke it up the touchpad wasn't working - and for the first time, it seemed to be because it was generating three byet packets correctly! So I took my patches out of the driver, rebuilt the kernel, and rebooted. Instead of working, the situation reverted to the initial problem of having zero bytes between the packets! So, I have *again* patched the driver (this is getting really tedious now). The patches are fairly minimal, but consist of: * using a synchronisation check of ((status & 0xCC) == 0x80), instead of the driver's default ((status&mask) == (laststatus&mask)). My check is much more reliable for the touchpad. * silently dropping zero bytes if they occur when we are expecting a status byte to prevent the logs from rapidly filling up with loads of synchronisation problem log messages. Since rebooting with these changes last night, I have had no further problems, but I expect it is just a matter of time before things go haywire again. The real question is: why is the driver reading these zero bytes? And why is the presence and position in the data stream of these zero bytes inconsistent? I have seen three behaviours: sync X Y (what should be happening, but hardly ever does; my current patches can deal with this) 0 sync X Y (the most common; my current patches deal with this) sync 0 X Y (what I saw on the weekend; my patches no longer deal with this) The struggle continues... gram -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 1:48:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC4437B712 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:48:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA07933; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:47:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3962F608.7BF9FBD2@gorean.org> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 01:47:04 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0702 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chris@aims.com.au Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 disks References: <002001bfe64f$b11484a0$020aa8c0@aims.private> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris Knight wrote: > > Howdy, > > I'd have to agree here. I went to install the CVS repository, only to find > that the last disk set containing this was 3.1. I then had to grab 18 months > of repository updates - about 450MB worth. The snapshot CD's have the repo on them. I imagine that once 4.1-RELEASE gets out the door they will get back on a more regular schedule. Y'all will probably get more traction by sending your requests to BSDi. The more people they hear from the better they can guage what the people buying the CD's really want included. Good luck, Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 1:48:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fling.sanbi.ac.za (fling.sanbi.ac.za [196.38.142.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A81937B712 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:48:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pvh@egenetics.com) Received: from pvh (helo=localhost) by fling.sanbi.ac.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #4) id 139kqj-0007TA-00; Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:48:05 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:48:05 +0200 (SAST) From: Peter van Heusden X-Sender: pvh@fling.sanbi.ac.za To: Maxime Henrion Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mouse problems with XFree 4.0.1 In-Reply-To: <396200B0.FC0C2FAC@cybercable.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Maxime Henrion wrote: > My Protocol is already set to Auto and I generated my XF86Config file with > xf86config too, but this doesn't solve my problem. > > Any other ideas ? Sorry, no ideas, but I get the same behaviour here with 4.0.1. I'm running a recent (about 1 week old) 4-STABLE, and my mouse is a MS Intellimouse Explorer, with moused running (i.e. SysMouse protocol). I've tried running without moused (i.e. USB mouse protocol), but the result is the same - when I go back into X after having been in a virtual console, the mouse is frozen (rest of X seems to work, though). I guess this is what the bleeding edge is about... Peter -- Peter van Heusden pvh@egenetics.com Electric Genetics To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 1:52: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.theinternet.com.au (zeus.theinternet.com.au [203.34.176.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC3F37B716 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:51:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akm@mail.theinternet.com.au) Received: (from akm@localhost) by mail.theinternet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00896; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:49:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from akm) From: Andrew Kenneth Milton Message-Id: <200007050849.SAA00896@mail.theinternet.com.au> Subject: Re: 4.1 disks In-Reply-To: <3962F608.7BF9FBD2@gorean.org> from Doug Barton at "Jul 5, 2000 01:47:04 am" To: Doug Barton Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:49:37 +1000 (EST) Cc: chris@aims.com.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG +----[ Doug Barton ]--------------------------------------------- | Chris Knight wrote: | > | > Howdy, | > | > I'd have to agree here. I went to install the CVS repository, only to find | > that the last disk set containing this was 3.1. I then had to grab 18 months | > of repository updates - about 450MB worth. | | The snapshot CD's have the repo on them. I imagine that once | 4.1-RELEASE gets out the door they will get back on a more regular | schedule. FreeBSD Toolkit CDs have them as well, so if you subscribe to that you also get CVS trees. -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 | Carpe Daemon PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068 |akm@theinternet.com.au| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 1:52: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105AA37B712; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA07954; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:52:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3962F731.5E0600A7@gorean.org> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 01:52:01 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0702 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Greg Rumple , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: KerberosIV in 3.x (Re: problems building world?) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Greg Rumple wrote: > > > I just cvsup'd one of my 3.4-STABLE boxes today, and can no longer make > > world. I had to remove cvs-crypto from my supfile as well. Here is a > > small snip of the error I am encountering. > > There was a major KerberosIV update that went in earlier today - if you > don't require Kerberos, then just don't set "MAKE_KERBEROS4" in > /etc/make.conf. > > Assar Westerlund will hopefully be addressing this shortly: sorry for the > temporary breakage, folks, but it is a necessary update for security > reasons. With due respect to Assar, this is the kind of breakage that just cannot happen in a -Stable branch. You could almost get away with this in 4.0 right now, but once 4.1-RELEASE goes out the door we will be severely damaging our claims of stability and production-readiness with these kinds of mistakes. The argument that the commit was necessary for security implies that _greater_ care be taken to insure that the changes work. No angry words or recriminations are needed, just more caution in the future. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 1:52:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80C437B745; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:52:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA10480; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:52:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:52:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200007050852.BAA10480@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Cc: jkoshy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Upgrading from 3-STABLE to 4-STABLE from sources Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_6442233800" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_6442233800 Content-Type: text/plain Oops, `make world' doesn't work as an upgrade mechanism from 3-STABLE to 4-STABLE :(. Here is a possible way to upgrade via sources which should avoid the pitfalls that I encountered. 1. First, bring your 3-STABLE system uptodate, if it already isn't so. # cd /usr/src # cvs -q update -PAd -rRELENG_3 # make world # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf # config YOURKERNEL # cp YOURKERNEL /root # a backup # cd ../../compile/YOURKERNEL # make depend all install # reboot 2. Checkout a 4-STABLE source tree # mv /usr/src /usr/src-3X # (optional) # cd /usr && cvs -q checkout -rRELENG_4 src 3. Do a `buildworld' # script /var/tmp/make-buildworld make -DNOPERL buildworld 4. BEFORE the `installworld' step, you need to do a few things :(. 4a. Install a new version of `install-info' # cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo # make install `install-info' in 4-STABLE has a --defsection option that is used in a number of places. 4b. Install a new version of `config'. This is needed for the next steps. # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/config # make install 4c. Apply the patch included in this mail. This patch is needed because the 4-STABLE kernel sources rely on a feature not present in 3-STABLE's GCC. # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/i386 # patch < in_cksum_patch 4d. Build and install a new kernel # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf # cp GENERIC YOURKERNEL # vi YOURKERNEL # edit to suit # config -r YOURKERNEL # cd ../../compile/YOURKERNEL # make depend all install 4e. Save the contents of /bin to /bin.3X, just in case # mkdir /bin.3X # cp /bin/* /bin.3X 5. Reboot with the new 4.0 kernel. You need the new kernel because the 4.0 versions of /bin/sh and other essential utilities use the new sigaction system call (syscall #342) that is not present in a 3-STABLE kernel. 6. Complete the installworld. This should now hopefully complete. # cd /usr/src # script /var/tmp/make-installworld make -DNOPERL installworld 7. Run `mergemaster' and upgrade "/etc", etc. 8. Revert the change to /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/in_cksum.c. From now on, the regular `make world' procedure should be sufficient to keep uptodate. Regards, Koshy --==_Exmh_6442233800 Content-Type: text/plain ; name="in_cksum_patch" Content-Description: in_cksum_patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="in_cksum_patch" Index: in_cksum.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/in_cksum.c,v retrieving revision 1.17.2.2 diff -u -r1.17.2.2 in_cksum.c --- in_cksum.c 2000/05/25 02:15:07 1.17.2.2 +++ in_cksum.c 2000/07/08 21:33:43 @@ -235,7 +235,7 @@ } if (len) - printf("%s: out of data by %d\n", __func__, len); + printf("cksum: out of data by %d\n", len); if (mlen == -1) { /* The last mbuf has odd # of bytes. Follow the standard (the odd byte is shifted left by 8 bits) */ @@ -423,7 +423,7 @@ } if (len) - printf("%s: out of data by %d\n", __func__, len); + printf("cksum: out of data by %d\n", len); if (mlen == -1) { /* The last mbuf has odd # of bytes. Follow the standard (the odd byte is shifted left by 8 bits) */ --==_Exmh_6442233800-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 1:55:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D83E37B716 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:55:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA07975; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:55:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3962F803.EA630208@gorean.org> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 01:55:31 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0702 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com, "Morten A. Middelthon" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 8.2.3-T5B in RELENG_4 source References: <200007041347.XAA20344@drugs.dv.isc.org> <20000705081722.R35215@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > However since > 8.2.3-t5b has been rockstable for me for quite some time now and fixes > quite a few bugs which are present in 8.2.2-p5, this was a motivator for > me to give Paul Saab a yes on the Merge From CURRENT. FWIW, I do most of my work with DNS, and I support this change. Assuming that the gold version of 8.2.3 is out before 4.1-RELEASE, I'd like to see that included if at all possible, but more stability and less bugs is always a good goal. :) Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 2:18:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5768C37B510; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 02:18:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e659IaW33101; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:18:36 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200007050918.e659IaW33101@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Upgrading from 3-STABLE to 4-STABLE from sources In-Reply-To: <200007050852.BAA10480@freefall.freebsd.org> from "jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG" at "Jul 5, 2000 01:52:05 am" To: jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:18:36 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Oops, `make world' doesn't work as an upgrade mechanism from > 3-STABLE to 4-STABLE :(. > > Here is a possible way to upgrade via sources which should avoid the > pitfalls that I encountered. > Have you tried the way that is described in /usr/src/UPDATING? It did work for me a few weeks back. I don't know if it has been broken after that. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 2:40:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E961C37B7BC; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 02:40:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA21265; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 02:40:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 02:40:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Doug Barton Cc: Greg Rumple , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: KerberosIV in 3.x (Re: problems building world?) In-Reply-To: <3962F731.5E0600A7@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Greg Rumple wrote: > > > > > I just cvsup'd one of my 3.4-STABLE boxes today, and can no longer make > > > world. I had to remove cvs-crypto from my supfile as well. Here is a > > > small snip of the error I am encountering. > > > > There was a major KerberosIV update that went in earlier today - if you > > don't require Kerberos, then just don't set "MAKE_KERBEROS4" in > > /etc/make.conf. > > > > Assar Westerlund will hopefully be addressing this shortly: sorry for the > > temporary breakage, folks, but it is a necessary update for security > > reasons. > > With due respect to Assar, this is the kind of breakage that just > cannot happen in a -Stable branch. You could almost get away with this > in 4.0 right now, but once 4.1-RELEASE goes out the door we will be > severely damaging our claims of stability and production-readiness with > these kinds of mistakes. > > The argument that the commit was necessary for security implies that > _greater_ care be taken to insure that the changes work. No angry words > or recriminations are needed, just more caution in the future. Assar's commit was wholly authorized by the security-officers, including the possibility of breakage. It was important we get this in ASAP, for reasons which will soon become clear. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 3:12:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBC937BC8D; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 03:12:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA25776; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 03:12:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 03:12:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200007051012.DAA25776@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Hay Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Upgrading from 3-STABLE to 4-STABLE from sources In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 05 Jul 2000 11:18:36 +0200." <200007050918.e659IaW33101@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jh> Have you tried the way that is described in /usr/src/UPDATING? It did jh> work for me a few weeks back. I don't know if it has been broken after jh> that. I hadn't realized that /usr/src/UPDATING was useful on the 4-STABLE branch. It isn't very useful on 3-STABLE. No, I didn't follow the procedure in /usr/src/UPDATING. I did a `make world' and then had to rescue the system. The procedure in /usr/src/UPDATING seems more comprehensive, and also somewhat more terse that what I had posted. If the `make installworld' step there uses the newly built GCC (v2.95.2) then it should work correctly. The use of `__func__', the troublesome GCCism, brought into the 4-STABLE branch of "src/sys/i386/i386/in_cksum.c" on 2000/05/05. Was your upgrade done after this date? Koshy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 3:12:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0820637BC15 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 03:12:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA56014; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:11:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:11:57 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Doug Barton Cc: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com, "Morten A. Middelthon" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND 8.2.3-T5B in RELENG_4 source Message-ID: <20000705121157.D6579@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <200007041347.XAA20344@drugs.dv.isc.org> <20000705081722.R35215@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <3962F803.EA630208@gorean.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3962F803.EA630208@gorean.org>; from DougB@gorean.org on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 01:55:31AM -0700 Organisation: VIA Net.Works The Netherlands Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20000705 11:00], Doug Barton (DougB@gorean.org) wrote: >Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > >> However since >> 8.2.3-t5b has been rockstable for me for quite some time now and fixes >> quite a few bugs which are present in 8.2.2-p5, this was a motivator for >> me to give Paul Saab a yes on the Merge From CURRENT. > > FWIW, I do most of my work with DNS, and I support this change. >Assuming that the gold version of 8.2.3 is out before 4.1-RELEASE, I'd >like to see that included if at all possible, but more stability and >less bugs is always a good goal. :) I was on purpose holding back on the MFC since I thought that 8.2.3 would be going gold pretty soon. Unfortunately its the NT build process which is holding the release back from being cut. From what I understand anyways. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA Net.Works The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.via-net-works.nl Give me the strength to be who I was, and forgive me for who I am... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 3:15:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEB237B8CD for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 03:15:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net. [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA51629; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:15:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <39630AAE.3F891D1C@thehousleys.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 06:15:10 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Moller, Christer B" Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Problem with cvs-cur.6450 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Moller, Christer B" wrote: > > Hello, > > I have tried to get CTM package cvs-cur.6450.gz from different sites around > the world, but it doesn't matter where I get it from, I'm still fail putting > it in. ctm reports the following: > > nnsb# ctm -v -v CTM-delta/cvs-cur.6450.gz > Working on > Fatal error. (/usr/src/usr.sbin/ctm/ctm/ctm_input.c:81) > CTM-delta/cvs-cur.6450.gz Fatal error: Bytecount too large. > ctm: exit(65) > nnsb# > > Anyone know what the problem is? > You will have to hand apply the patch in the following PR. Then a later cvs-cur will fix the code. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18058 Jim -- microsoft: "where do you want to go today?" linux: "where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "are you guys coming, or what?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 3:21:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from public.bta.net.cn (public.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F086C37B8CD for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 03:21:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: from netrinsics.com ([202.108.133.65]) by public.bta.net.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14041 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:17:41 +0800 (GMT) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03101 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:22:12 +0800 (+0800) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:22:12 +0800 (+0800) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <200007051022.SAA03101@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: 4.1 disks In-Reply-To: <002001bfe64f$b11484a0$020aa8c0@aims.private> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Chris Knight" writes: >I'd have to agree here. I went to install the CVS repository, only to find >that the last disk set containing this was 3.1. I then had to grab 18 months >of repository updates - about 450MB worth. Me too. >While I didn't mind that, I'm >sure that the cvsup servers and their maintainers would have an easier time >of it if the repository was available on CD at the same time a release is >made. It saves people time, money and bandwidth. Ditto. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 3:39:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CE237B847; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 03:39:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e65Ad6g34872; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:39:06 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200007051039.e65Ad6g34872@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Upgrading from 3-STABLE to 4-STABLE from sources In-Reply-To: <200007051012.DAA25776@freefall.freebsd.org> from "jkoshy@FreeBSD.org" at "Jul 5, 2000 03:12:17 am" To: jkoshy@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:39:05 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > jh> Have you tried the way that is described in /usr/src/UPDATING? It did > jh> work for me a few weeks back. I don't know if it has been broken after > jh> that. > > I hadn't realized that /usr/src/UPDATING was useful on the 4-STABLE branch. > It isn't very useful on 3-STABLE. I used the version in 4-STABLE as reference during the upgrade. > > No, I didn't follow the procedure in /usr/src/UPDATING. I did a `make > world' and then had to rescue the system. > > The procedure in /usr/src/UPDATING seems more comprehensive, and also > somewhat more terse that what I had posted. If the `make installworld' > step there uses the newly built GCC (v2.95.2) then it should work correctly. > > The use of `__func__', the troublesome GCCism, brought into the 4-STABLE > branch of "src/sys/i386/i386/in_cksum.c" on 2000/05/05. Was your upgrade > done after this date? No, but I suspect that part at least should still work, because the "make buildkernel KERNEL=" target in /usr/src/Makefile and friends use the newly built compiler to build the kernel, so it should succeed. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 4:14:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from noc.nextra.sk (noc.nextra.sk [195.168.1.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31E137B8C7; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 04:14:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from plk@noc.nextra.sk) Received: (from plk@localhost) by noc.nextra.sk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20798; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:14:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from plk) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:14:18 +0200 From: Bohus Plucinsky To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: lsof 4.50 don't work on 4.0-20000602-STABLE Message-ID: <20000705131418.L20883@in.nextra.sk> Reply-To: plk@in.nextra.sk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Organization: NEXTRA, Bratislava, SLOVAKIA X-NCC-RegID: sk.nextra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I installed lsof 4.50 on FreeBSD 4.0-20000602-STABLE from the "ports". lsof version information: revision: 4.50 -- find the latest revision at: ftp://vic.cc.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof constructed: Wed Jul 5 10:36:43 CEST 2000 constructed by and on: plk@in.nextra.sk compiler: cc compiler version: 2.95.2 19991024 (release) compiler flags: -pipe -DFREEBSDV=400 -DHASFDESCFS=1 -DHASFDLINK -DHASPROCFS -DHAS9660FS -DHASIPv6 -DLSOF_VSTR="4.0-20000602-STABLE" -I/usr/include -I/usr/src/sys -O -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS loader flags: -L./lib -llsof -lkvm system info: FreeBSD xxxx.xxx.sk 4.0-20000602-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-20000602-STABLE #8: Sun Jun 11 22:51:54 CEST 2000 root@xxx.xxx.sk:/usr/src/sys/compile/QWAK i386 The compilation was OK, but the informations, which I get from lsof are strange. This is output from the command lsof. (It has been run from the root account) 103 [qwak: /root] # lsof lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 lsof: no pwd entry for UID 5 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME (unknown) 8816 5 cwd VDIR 116,196616 512 238080 /root (unknown) 8816 5 rtd VDIR 116,196616 1024 2 / (unknown) 8816 5 txt VREG 116,196616 111465 225540 /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof/work/lsof_4.50/lsof (unknown) 8816 5 txt VREG 116,196616 71976 55658 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 (unknown) 8816 5 txt VREG 116,196616 18036 198487 /usr/lib/libkvm.so.2 (unknown) 8816 5 txt VREG 116,196616 533972 198626 /usr/lib/libc.so.4 (unknown) 8816 5 0 no more information (unknown) 8816 5 1 no more information (unknown) 8816 5 2 no more information (unknown) 8816 5 3 no more information (unknown) 8816 5 4 no more information When I run it with parameters e.g lsof -u root I get no output. Can somebody help me, where is a problem? Regards, Bohus Plucinsky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 5: 6:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc-johan.vuurwerk.nl (kesteren.vuurwerk.nl [194.178.232.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B859637B85E for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 05:06:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johan@pc-johan.vuurwerk.nl) Received: (from johan@localhost) by pc-johan.vuurwerk.nl (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e65C4nR25782 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:04:49 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:04:48 +0200 From: Johan Mulder To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lsof 4.50 don't work on 4.0-20000602-STABLE Message-ID: <20000705140448.A25721@vuurwerk.nl> References: <20000705131418.L20883@in.nextra.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000705131418.L20883@in.nextra.sk>; from plk@in.nextra.sk on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 01:14:18PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 01:14:18PM +0200, Bohus Plucinsky wrote: > Hi, > > I installed lsof 4.50 on FreeBSD 4.0-20000602-STABLE from the "ports". > lsof version information: *snip* > The compilation was OK, but the informations, which I get from lsof are > strange. This is output from the command lsof. (It has been run from the root > account) *snip* > When I run it with parameters e.g lsof -u root I get no output. > Can somebody help me, where is a problem? I had that same problem too. It worked before I installed and ran a new world. After the recompilation of lsof it worked again ;) So that's probably the solution. -- Johan "RTFM" Mulder Vuurwerk System Administration To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 5:38: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E3337B59B for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 05:37:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lai-ca4b-08.ix.netcom.com [209.110.245.8]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10685 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:37:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 05979E6EF7; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 05:37:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <14690.56083.871132.718345@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br> (message from Ataualpa Albert Carmo Braga on Wed, 5 Jul 2000 03:52:03 -0300 (EST)) Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 References: <14690.56083.871132.718345@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br> Message-Id: <20000705123740.05979E6EF7@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 05:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, but does AMD have disco-dancing clean-room technicians and animated sock monkeys? Does AMD "improve your internet experience" with "brighter colors?" Sorry about the OT, but these ads have bugged me for years. :) - Mike H. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 03:52:03 -0300 (EST) From: Ataualpa Albert Carmo Braga Reply-To: atabraga@iqm.unicamp.br X-URL: http://www.iqm.unicamp.br Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-RULES: lists Only more one information about performance. I works at Unicamp university (Brazil), with computational chemistry, and a professor make some real tests (energy and optimize calculations, for example) and got better results for a AMD 700 (Athlon) than with a Pentium 3 850. Than, I think so, the Intel's imperium maybe is close to the end. Ata. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 5:49: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.polytechnic.edu.na (mail.polytechnic.edu.na [196.31.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7A637B791 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 05:48:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@polytechnic.edu.na) Received: from ns1.horizon.na ([196.31.225.199] helo=polytechnic.edu.na) by mail.polytechnic.edu.na with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 139qRt-0005M7-00; Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:46:49 -0200 Message-ID: <39632E3D.1E1258A@polytechnic.edu.na> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 13:46:53 +0100 From: Tim Priebe Reply-To: tim@iafrica.com.na X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Gilbert Cc: Kevin Oberman , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? References: <200007040508.BAA59763@whizzo.transsys.com> <200007042325.e64NPCn20451@ptavv.es.net> <14690.37799.546582.824877@trooper.velocet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Gilbert wrote: > > >>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Oberman writes: > > Kevin> Louis has it exactly right. 802.3 was modified a couple of > Kevin> years ago to allow for a maximum frame size of 1522 octets, up > Kevin> from the original 1518. This was to allow the VLAN information > Kevin> to fit in the frame. Exactly, my point also we must update our code to conform to the new standard. > Kevin> Since the terminating switch/router should be removing this > Kevin> information, the end system (and MTU) should be unaffected, but > Kevin> many nets seem to not fully support the longer frames in their > Kevin> infrastructure and probably lots of Internet routers don't > Kevin> either. This is often a hardware issue, so the only fixes > Kevin> available are to upgrade all hardware to support the added > Kevin> octets or to reduce the MTU so that the frame size does not > Kevin> exceed 1518. I am not sure that this is the case entirely the additional 4 bytes were for both VLAN and priority information. The priority information would often be sent by the host, and should probably also be recieved by it, so that it has the possibility of using the priority information for local prioratisation. And beyond this I have many applications where a host will be on multiple LANs. > Kevin> In an enterprise, the upgrade is feasible, but in the Internet > Kevin> backbone, if you are not extremely lucky to have all VLAN > Kevin> supporting equipment along the path, the packet is fragmented > Kevin> or dropped. And there is a LOT of equipment out there that does > Kevin> not support VLANs. I think this is a bit confused. The VLAN tags are for the LAN. They are for switching, not routing. That information should not be sent by the routers. The equivilant on a routed IP packet is the network part of the IP address. VLANs are logically separate LANs, which share the same physical network equipment. The point of the VLAN tag is so that multiple VLANs can use the same connection, and the equipment at both ends will be able to switch individual frames to the appropriate ports for that VLAN. FreeBSD since 3.0 mostly supports VLANs, but some NICs do not. For those NICs that are able to support the new standard, we should allow it, and not force them not to. I am right now getting ready to by new NICs that support VLANs nativly, to get around the software problem. > In this case, the BSD box is meant to be the terminator of the VLAN > trunks. In this case, Linux (to use the awful L word) forwards 1500 > byte packets into the VLANs. I just want my FreeBSD router to do the > same. I suppose I had best not show this to my boss, the VLAN support in FreeBSD, which was not available in Linux, was the only reason he let me install FreeBSD. I suppose if the new NICs do not solve the problems, I will have no choice. Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 5:51:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825BD37BF0E for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 05:51:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A4218080; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:51:27 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000705121157.D6579@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <200007041347.XAA20344@drugs.dv.isc.org> <20000705081722.R35215@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <3962F803.EA630208@gorean.org> <20000705121157.D6579@lucifer.bart.nl> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:38:03 +0200 To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven , Doug Barton From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: BIND 8.2.3-T5B in RELENG_4 source Cc: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com, "Morten A. Middelthon" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:11 PM +0200 2000/7/5, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > I was on purpose holding back on the MFC since I thought that 8.2.3 > would be going gold pretty soon. Unfortunately its the NT build process > which is holding the release back from being cut. From what I > understand anyways. It currently looks like this problem should be solved in just a few days. There are some header files which were missing for NT that need to be regenerated, and then they can at least get it compiling again. Once they do that, they can squash the last couple of remaining bugs for NT. Alternatively, if necessary, they will release 8.2.3 without waiting for NT, and release 8.2.4 once the NT stuff is ready to go. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 6:21: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BEE37BE4B for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:21:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EAD0137F0F; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22961; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:20:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14691.13877.728401.523160@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:20:53 -0400 (EDT) To: tim@iafrica.com.na Cc: David Gilbert , Kevin Oberman , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? In-Reply-To: <39632E3D.1E1258A@polytechnic.edu.na> References: <200007040508.BAA59763@whizzo.transsys.com> <200007042325.e64NPCn20451@ptavv.es.net> <14690.37799.546582.824877@trooper.velocet.net> <39632E3D.1E1258A@polytechnic.edu.na> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Priebe writes: Tim> David Gilbert wrote: >> >>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Oberman writes: >> Kevin> Louis has it exactly right. 802.3 was modified a couple of Kevin> years ago to allow for a maximum frame size of 1522 octets, up Kevin> from the original 1518. This was to allow the VLAN information Kevin> to fit in the frame. Tim> Exactly, my point also we must update our code to conform to the Tim> new standard. This is all I'm looking for, really. When you configure vlan support in FreeBSD, all the interfaces come up with 1496 byte MTUs. I suppose I don't really care what the IP MTU of the ethernet port is --- I just want a 1500 byte MTU on the vlan. I'm even willing to buy new ethernet ports (although the Intel 21143-based 4 port cards have worked well in the past for me). The problem is that chaging the MTU on windoze based boxes (my customers) is problematic. Even changing the MTU on some BSD network interfaces is not easy. I suppose this means that my MRU is low, too... But the problem here is also that path MTU discovery is somewhat broken on the internet and this low-MTU service is a pain for customers. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 7:23:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31BF37BEBF for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:23:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23028; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:21:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:21:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Ataualpa Albert Carmo Braga Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: <14690.56083.871132.718345@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Ataualpa Albert Carmo Braga wrote: > > Only more one information about performance. I works at Unicamp > university (Brazil), with computational chemistry, and a professor > make some real tests (energy and optimize calculations, for example) > and got better results for a AMD 700 (Athlon) than with a Pentium 3 > 850. Than, I think so, the Intel's imperium maybe is close to the end. You should see the amazing stuff UKY has done with Athlon's on their KLAT2 cluster. They optimized ScaLAPAK to utilize the 3DNow! SIMD Within A Register enhancement and obtained these results: Rmax=64.459 GFLOPS with Nmax=40,960 (N=40,960, Blocking factor 64, 8x8 grid; LU time 709.98s, sol time 0.78s; residual is 0.000000) Approximate N1/2 is 32.296 GFLOPS with N=13,824 (Blocking factor 64, 8x8 grid; LU time 54.30s, sol time 0.24s; residual is 0.000000) Theoretical peak is 179.2 GFLOPS (we'll never see that!) Machine configuration: 64 Athlon 700MHz with 128MB PC100 CAS2 SDRAM on FIC SD11 motherboards (boot floppy, no hard disk); Flat Neighborhood network implemented using 256 Smartlink 100Mb/s NICs and 9 32-way switches; RedHat Linux 6.0 with 2.2.14 kernel; LAM MPI 6.3.3b1 (with Flat Neighborhood patch); Egcs 2.91.66, G77 0.5.24-19981002, and our 3DNow! SWAR support (http://aggregate.org/SWAR/); ScaLAPACK 1.6; BLACS 1.1; ATLAS 3.0beta (with our 3DNow! code inserted by hand) Pretty amazing stuff. You can find more info on that cluster at: http://aggregate.org/KLAT2/ Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 7:46:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gateway.mindmaker.com (gateway.mindmaker.com [209.66.98.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC4337BF54; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:46:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbeck@mindmaker.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by gateway.mindmaker.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id HAA16333; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.int.mindmaker.com(192.168.10.10) by gateway.mindmaker.com via smap (V2.0) id xma016329; Wed, 5 Jul 00 07:45:57 -0700 Received: from mindmaker.com (auth.int.mindmaker.com [192.168.10.15]) by mail.int.mindmaker.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA48826; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39634A28.D42E781F@mindmaker.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 07:46:00 -0700 From: Bernhard Beck X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: John Hay , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading from 3-STABLE to 4-STABLE from sources References: <200007051012.DAA25776@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just updated a system from 3.4-STABLE to 4.0-STABLE from Saturday (July 1st). It worked almost perfectly following the description in /usr/src/UPDATING. make installworld bombed out once when calling install-info the first time due to a missing libc.so.4. Manually copying libc.so.4 from /usr/obj/... to /usr/lib got this working. I'm not sure, though, if I did something wrong in the earlier steps or if the info install step missed to copy libc.so.4. Bernhard jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > > jh> Have you tried the way that is described in /usr/src/UPDATING? It did > jh> work for me a few weeks back. I don't know if it has been broken after > jh> that. > > I hadn't realized that /usr/src/UPDATING was useful on the 4-STABLE branch. > It isn't very useful on 3-STABLE. > > No, I didn't follow the procedure in /usr/src/UPDATING. I did a `make > world' and then had to rescue the system. > > The procedure in /usr/src/UPDATING seems more comprehensive, and also > somewhat more terse that what I had posted. If the `make installworld' > step there uses the newly built GCC (v2.95.2) then it should work correctly. > > The use of `__func__', the troublesome GCCism, brought into the 4-STABLE > branch of "src/sys/i386/i386/in_cksum.c" on 2000/05/05. Was your upgrade > done after this date? > > Koshy > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 7:46:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skaarup.org (skaarup.org [130.228.230.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5023537B9F6 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:46:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasmus@gal.dk) Received: from localhost (skaarup@localhost) by skaarup.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA86896 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:46:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rasmus@gal.dk) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:46:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Rasmus Skaarup X-Sender: skaarup@skaarup.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make world fail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, When I try do do a make world with a brand new cvsupped source tree, the following happens: ** snip snip ** ===> libfetch compile_et /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.et cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -Wall -pedantic -DNDEBUG -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c -o fetch.o In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: fetch_err.h:6: com_right.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: fetch_err.h:8: warning: `struct et_list' declared inside parameter list fetch_err.h:8: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, fetch_err.h:8: warning: which is probably not what you want. *** Error code 1 Stop. ** snip snip ** I'm running 3.5-STABLE.. trying to install the latest 3.5-STABLE sources. Best regards Rasmus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 7:48:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dcnv.com (mail.dcnv.com [216.33.117.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EED37B9F6 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:48:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Received: from digitalconvergence.com (dallas [207.158.100.67]) by mail.dcnv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16117 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:47:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Message-ID: <39634AC0.555AC66C@digitalconvergence.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 09:48:32 -0500 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is anyone using pxeboot from 4.0-STABLE with the latest Intel PXE ROM (3.0.03)? I'm getting a register dump when it's loading the kernel. Thanks, -- Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology DigitalConvergence.:Com aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com Phone: +1-214-292-6040 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 8: 9:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown2-2-178.adsl.one.net [216.23.15.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC5537BF1E for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:09:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10145; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:16:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:16:29 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: Ataualpa Albert Carmo Braga Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000705111629.A10084@cokane.yi.org> References: <14690.56083.871132.718345@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14690.56083.871132.718345@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br>; from atabraga@iqm.unicamp.br on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 02:54:11AM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, I was simply referring to the k6-2 line. Of course the Athlon is better in performance and price. The guys at AMD ar no dummies, they know how to build a processor. The K7 team was made up of a good deal of Ex-digital engineers (no doubt disgruntled at Intel). I have been a rather loyal AMD customer for years, ever since I realized that my X5-133 could clock to 160Mhz with no problem and beat the socks off of a friend's P-120... I also had an AMD Am486DX2-66 that performed well in both Integer and FPU situations. I had a short run with an Intel P55C-166Mhz during the time when AMD's K5s were in short supply. The K6-2 was a godsend. Ataualpa Albert Carmo Braga had the audacity to say: > > Only more one information about performance. I works at Unicamp > university (Brazil), with computational chemistry, and a professor > make some real tests (energy and optimize calculations, for example) > and got better results for a AMD 700 (Athlon) than with a Pentium 3 > 850. Than, I think so, the Intel's imperium maybe is close to the end. > > Ata. > > > on Wednesday, 5 Jul 2000 01:05:51, Coleman Kane wrote: > > > Paul Murphy had the audacity to say: > > > > Joe Greco wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ditto. I'm slowly but surely dumping all my Intel Pentium stuff, plus most > > > > > of my 486 or older stuff :-) I've been using the ASUS P/I-P55T2P4, the > > > > > venerable Triton II overclocker's board, which I've got a plethora of, and > > > > > some P5A's. My baseline systems are now K6/233's, ranging up to > > > > > K6-III-400's (which still seem to be faster than their K6-2 higher speed > > > > > counterparts). Only using Intel for the SMP stuff now. And on my laptop > > > > > > > > > > The cpu's are a little different. The difference being that the Cyrstal > > > 4324 is definately not anywhere near as good quality as a Sounblaster > > > AWE32. The AMD chips, for the price are better performers than the Intel > > > CPUs. You also don't want to compare speed for speed performance, try > > > upgradeability and price comparisons. Maybe a K6-2 266 is almost as fast > > > as a P55C-233MMZ for non-optimized FPU math, the P55C is about 2x the > > > price in cost. If you buy a K6-2 400 (still cheaper than a P55C 233 and > > > even a PII-300, yet kick both asses) you are getting better performance > > > for a cheaper price. If you compare the PII-400 vs. the K6-2 400, of > > > course the PII-400 will win, but they are about $130. The K6-2 400 is > > > only $40-$50 and dropping. Just wait until you can get a nice Socket A > > > board for your server with an early Duron 600 for $70 for the CPU and > > > $100 for the mobo. Beat that with intel chips? I don't think so. On > > > top of that, the Duron's will be SMP-able in the near future with the > > > AMD770. > > > > > > > Is there a particular reason for going with the AMD's over Intel? When > > > > buying computers I have always stayed with the Intel CPU's because I > > > > thought it was similar to Soundblaster vs. others: all the others say > > > > they are "Soundblaster compatible" so why not buy the real thing? > > > > > > > > [forgive me if this sounds naive but it has been a while since I have > > > > bought a NEW computer] > > > > -- > > > > Paul Murphy > > > > http://members.home.com/pnmurphy/ > > > > Home Lat: 43° 33' 29" N, Lon: 79° 39' 03" W > > > > Work Lat: 43° 25' 30" N, Lon: 79° 42' 34" W > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Coleman Kane > > > President, > > > UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 8:17:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67A637BF26 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:16:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA77416; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:16:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200007051516.RAA77416@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? In-Reply-To: <14691.13877.728401.523160@trooper.velocet.net> from David Gilbert at "Jul 5, 2000 09:20:53 am" To: David Gilbert Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:16:41 +0200 (CEST) Cc: tim@iafrica.com.na, Kevin Oberman , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Kevin> Louis has it exactly right. 802.3 was modified a couple of > Kevin> years ago to allow for a maximum frame size of 1522 octets, up > Kevin> from the original 1518. This was to allow the VLAN information > Kevin> to fit in the frame. just curious, what do we do when we have multiple encapsulation ? (i.e. is this allowed ?) cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) Mobile +39-347-0373137 -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 9:13:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D46637B9E2 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:13:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28179; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:13:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007051613.JAA28179@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: 4.1 disks In-Reply-To: <200007050553.BAA02246@dreamscape.com> from "Mark W. Krentel" at "Jul 5, 0 01:53:18 am" To: krentel@dreamscape.com (Mark W. Krentel) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:13:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Mark W. Krentel wrote: > I was really hoping that the distfiles could be included. For me, > that's one of the main reasons for getting the disks. If the sizes > are getting out of hand, you might consider going to two sets of > disks. The last time this discussion went by, I suggested a split of the CD sets. I wanted the release set to be the install image, a live filesystem emergency holographic repair disk, and the repository. Then, a seperate set of disks, optional to buy or subscribe to but released at exactly the same time as the system should be the complete ports collection =with= all the distfiles that are allowed to be stomped onto a CD, and a shell script that would fetch the rest. The idea being to allow someone to snapshot the ports collection at the time of the release, so that future bit rot (umm... enhancments) in ports wouldn't affect the owner of the release. This is not maybe quite so important for dot releases, but I'd love to have a buildable ports collection for my 2.2.8-RELEASE systems, and for the 3.5-RELEASE boxen as well. My $1/50. I'd pay. BSDi/WC? Want another product? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 9:43:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D3B37B5B2 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:43:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2D7180E0 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:43:06 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:41:55 +0200 To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List From: Brad Knowles Subject: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE buildworld dies on fetch? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, I just cvsup'ed RELENG_3 on this machine earlier today (after taking out my symlinks for the soft updates stuff and re-cvsup'ing, due to the changes in code location resulting from the license changes), and during a "make buildworld", I got the following failure: ===> libfetch compile_et /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.et cc -O -pipe -I. -Wall -pedantic -DNDEBUG -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c / usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c -o fetch.o *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. I know that there were changes a few days ago to fetch in -CURRENT, but these wouldn't have affected 3.4-STABLE, would they? Does anyone have any advice on what I should to to fix this problem? Thanks! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 9:58: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.polytechnic.edu.na (mail.polytechnic.edu.na [196.31.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC50637B516 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:57:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@polytechnic.edu.na) Received: from ns1.horizon.na ([196.31.225.199] helo=polytechnic.edu.na) by mail.polytechnic.edu.na with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 139uLd-0006EO-00; Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:56:37 -0200 Message-ID: <396368C9.C3C5A50F@polytechnic.edu.na> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:56:41 +0100 From: Tim Priebe Reply-To: tim@iafrica.com.na X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: David Gilbert , tim@iafrica.com.na, Kevin Oberman , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? References: <200007051516.RAA77416@info.iet.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > Kevin> Louis has it exactly right. 802.3 was modified a couple of > > Kevin> years ago to allow for a maximum frame size of 1522 octets, up > > Kevin> from the original 1518. This was to allow the VLAN information > > Kevin> to fit in the frame. > > just curious, what do we do when we have multiple encapsulation ? > (i.e. is this allowed ?) > > cheers > luigi I am not sure what you mean. If you mean "VLAN encapsulation", then it is a misunderstanding. The standard Ethernet frame is not encapsulated. The Ethernet header is modified. The extra 4 Bytes are not at the begining of the frame. The frame is identical to one with prioratization, 12 of the bits indicate the VLAN, and 4 the prority. So there is only one VLAN value, and one priority value possible per frame. Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 10: 4:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A8C37B621 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:04:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CCDB21C64; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:04:21 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Alan Edmonds Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable Message-ID: <20000705130421.M4034@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <39634AC0.555AC66C@digitalconvergence.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <39634AC0.555AC66C@digitalconvergence.com>; from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 09:48:32AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 09:48:32AM -0500, Alan Edmonds wrote: > Is anyone using pxeboot from 4.0-STABLE with the latest Intel PXE ROM > (3.0.03)? I'm getting a register dump when it's loading the kernel. Speaking only as someone who saw what the people who wrote this used to debug it, you're going to actually have to give us the register dump if you expect anything to happen. Yes. This might actually mean transcribing it by hand, unfortunatly. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CHIMES e-mail: billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 11: 4:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from forrie.net (forrie.net [64.20.73.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FE337B9C6 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:04:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.forrie.com (dhcp-north-71-168.navipath.net [64.20.71.168]) by forrie.net with id e65I4Vx70401 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000705135947.00bf65e0@64.20.73.233> X-Sender: forrie@64.20.73.233 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 14:01:08 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Forrest Aldrich Subject: Stable 4.0 buildworld crash Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Looks like something is broken (just CVSup'd): cc -fpic -DPIC -nostdinc -O -pipe -DIEEE_drem -DNON_ANSI_RW_MODES -DNON_UNIX_STDIO -DPe dantic -I/usr/src/lib/libf2c/../../usr.bin/f2c -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /u sr/src/lib/libf2c/../libI77/xwsne.c -o xwsne.So building shared library libf2c.so.2 ===> libfetch compile_et /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.et cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -Wall -pedantic -DNDEBUG -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include - c /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c -o fetch.o In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: fetch_err.h:6: com_right.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: fetch_err.h:8: warning: `struct et_list' declared inside parameter list fetch_err.h:8: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, fetch_err.h:8: warning: which is probably not what you want. *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 11:21:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from support.intercom.com (notns2.intercomonline.com [207.51.37.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1687737B509 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:21:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (ppp126.max01.intercom.com [206.98.165.126]) by support.intercom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18241 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:20:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA22152; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:19:13 -0400 Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA47142; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:19:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <200007051819.OAA47142@misha.privatelabs.com> Subject: ServerWorks ServerSet III LE chipset? To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jonathan@privatelabs.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We are wondering if we should expect any problems with the chipset in subject? How about the Adaptec 7892 SCSI? TIA, -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 11:21:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dcnv.com (mail.dcnv.com [216.33.117.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE1937B509 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:21:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Received: from digitalconvergence.com (dallas [207.158.100.67]) by mail.dcnv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28504; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:20:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Message-ID: <39637CAE.A9FFCD03@digitalconvergence.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 13:21:34 -0500 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Fumerola Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable References: <39634AC0.555AC66C@digitalconvergence.com> <20000705130421.M4034@jade.chc-chimes.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here goes: / int=00000006 err=00000000 efl=00010216 eip=00010216 eax=00000000 ebx=0fc08510 ecx=0002c4a0 edx=190d0000 esi=0002e984 edi=000224a0 ebp=180ae850 esp=00003420 cs=002b ds=0033 es=0033 fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033 cs:eip: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff:ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ss:esp: 10 83 f8 ff 75 1a 83 fa:ff 75 15 83 c4 f4 68 40 System halted This happens after transfering about 64kb from the nfs server. I ran tcpdump on the nfs server and watched the nfs read packets. Is there a disassembler available for FreeBSD? Bill Fumerola wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 09:48:32AM -0500, Alan Edmonds wrote: > > > Is anyone using pxeboot from 4.0-STABLE with the latest Intel PXE ROM > > (3.0.03)? I'm getting a register dump when it's loading the kernel. > > Speaking only as someone who saw what the people who wrote this used > to debug it, you're going to actually have to give us the register > dump if you expect anything to happen. > > Yes. This might actually mean transcribing it by hand, unfortunatly. > > -- > Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CHIMES > e-mail: billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org -- Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology DigitalConvergence.:Com aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com Phone: +1-214-292-6040 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 11:28:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-51.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CC137C54A for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:28:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12067; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007051835.LAA12067@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: stable@freebsd.org, jonathan@privatelabs.com Subject: Re: ServerWorks ServerSet III LE chipset? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Jul 2000 14:19:44 EDT." <200007051819.OAA47142@misha.privatelabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 11:35:18 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > We are wondering if we should expect any problems with the chipset > in subject? You will need 4-stable to run correctly on this chipset in SMP mode, 4.0-release has problems with APIC initialisation. > How about the Adaptec 7892 SCSI? Should be fine. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 11:44: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from straynet.com (voyager.straynet.com [208.185.24.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0794B37BFE3 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:44:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@straynet.com) Received: (qmail 61815 invoked by uid 1013); 5 Jul 2000 18:43:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jul 2000 18:43:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:43:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Prosser X-Sender: xyst@voyager.straynet.com Reply-To: Greg Prosser To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stable 4.0 buildworld crash In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000705135947.00bf65e0@64.20.73.233> Message-ID: X-Sysadmin-Nolife: True X-BOFH: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG *nods slowly* Same behaviour in just-cvsup'd RELENG_3, same error to the letter also. I'm running through my stable-stupfile agsin, hoping someones commited an update and not told us about it. Hence, this isn't specific to 4.0. Er, this is the second time in two days I've attempted to pull down 3.5-S sources and buildworld, and the second time it's failed, what's going on here? /gp .... .. . ... . . . . . g r e g @ s t r a y n e t . c o m .-----.----.-----.-----. senior administrator, straynet online | _ | _| -__| _ | head network administrator, wen dot net |___ |__| |_____|___ | staff consultant, micro web company |_____| |_____| icq: 10405504 / aol im: xysters On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Forrest Aldrich wrote: ;; Looks like something is broken (just CVSup'd): ;; ;; cc -fpic -DPIC -nostdinc -O -pipe -DIEEE_drem -DNON_ANSI_RW_MODES -DNON_UNIX_STDIO -DPe ;; dantic -I/usr/src/lib/libf2c/../../usr.bin/f2c -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /u ;; sr/src/lib/libf2c/../libI77/xwsne.c -o xwsne.So ;; building shared library libf2c.so.2 ;; ===> libfetch ;; compile_et /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.et ;; cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -Wall -pedantic -DNDEBUG -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include - ;; c /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c -o fetch.o ;; In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, ;; from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: ;; fetch_err.h:6: com_right.h: No such file or directory ;; In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, ;; from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: ;; fetch_err.h:8: warning: `struct et_list' declared inside parameter list ;; fetch_err.h:8: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, ;; fetch_err.h:8: warning: which is probably not what you want. ;; *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 11:54: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A252C37BB78 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:54:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from feta.isds.duke.edu (feta.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.76]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03538 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:54:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sto@localhost) by feta.isds.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20724 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:54:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sto) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:53:39 -0400 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: FreeBSD stable Subject: Couple of trivial PR's before 4.1 Message-ID: <20000705145339.F20167@stat.Duke.EDU> Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi- Any chance that a few of the silly little PNP ID patches for various OEM version of sound cards could be included before the 4.1 RELEASE: PR kern/18767 (also sent as kern/18714 due to a goof by me) PR misc/19564 I think there may have been others. Also, any chance of an MFC of /sys/dev/audio/* Thanks, S ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 11:58:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CCF37BFDC for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:58:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@freebsddiary.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26887 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 06:58:18 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 06:58:16 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: make world fails : file exists Reply-To: dan@freebsddiary.org Message-ID: <39642E08.21453.DD904@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In my continuing 4-day saga to get 4.0-stable compiled, I encountered the following error during make world: cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl - I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 - I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o toke.o mkdir: build: File exists *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 12:14:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6BF37B509 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e65JEDd36876; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:14:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Alan Edmonds Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable In-Reply-To: <39634AC0.555AC66C@digitalconvergence.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Alan Edmonds wrote: > > Is anyone using pxeboot from 4.0-STABLE with the latest Intel PXE ROM > (3.0.03)? I'm getting a register dump when it's loading the kernel. Where did you get this version? The new machines we have are all 0.X or 2.X, but no 3.X. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 12:17:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6945437B9E2 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.111]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:18:57 -0700 Message-ID: <396389D7.4676378B@3-cities.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:17:43 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dan@freebsddiary.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world fails : file exists References: <39642E08.21453.DD904@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dan Langille wrote: > > In my continuing 4-day saga to get 4.0-stable compiled, I encountered > the following error during make world: > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl - > I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 - > I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o toke.o > mkdir: build: File exists > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. Hi Dan, Did you remove the files from /usr/obj/*? I've done 3 cvsups and builds in the last two days on 3 different machines and haven't had any problems. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 12:21:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.unixathome.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F9237BAA4 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:21:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@freebsddiary.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by mail.unixathome.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27202; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:21:37 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Kent Stewart Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:21:35 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: make world fails : file exists Reply-To: dan@freebsddiary.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3964337F.8996.2333AB@localhost> In-reply-to: <396389D7.4676378B@3-cities.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 5 Jul 2000, at 12:17, Kent Stewart wrote: > Dan Langille wrote: > > > > In my continuing 4-day saga to get 4.0-stable compiled, I encountered the > > following error during make world: > > > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl - > > I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 - > > I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o > > toke.o mkdir: build: File exists *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > Hi Dan, > > Did you remove the files from /usr/obj/*? > > I've done 3 cvsups and builds in the last two days on 3 different > machines and haven't had any problems. Yep. I did this: chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/; rm -rf /usr/obj/*; rm -rf /usr/tmp/*; -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports well, it was the place for ports. But because of a stuff up, it's http://freshports.freebsddiary.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 12:28: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1406E37B712 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:27:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.111]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:29:36 -0700 Message-ID: <39638C57.B601B64@3-cities.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:28:23 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dan@freebsddiary.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world fails : file exists References: <3964337F.8996.2333AB@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dan Langille wrote: > > On 5 Jul 2000, at 12:17, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Dan Langille wrote: > > > > > > In my continuing 4-day saga to get 4.0-stable compiled, I encountered the > > > following error during make world: > > > > > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl - > > > I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 - > > > I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > > > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o > > > toke.o mkdir: build: File exists *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > Did you remove the files from /usr/obj/*? > > > > I've done 3 cvsups and builds in the last two days on 3 different > > machines and haven't had any problems. > > Yep. I did this: > > chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/; > rm -rf /usr/obj/*; > rm -rf /usr/tmp/*; That takes care of original files with permission problems. I don't do make world's. I read where that was a good way to ruin your universe and started doing buildworlds, creating and installing the kernel, rebooting to single user mode to do the installworld. The way it was explained to me was that left you with your original world via /kernel.old in case something happened. Since I'm not having any problems and don't have any ideas at this point, are your just updating your 4.0-Stable or are you moving from 4.0R to 4.0S? Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 12:31:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mrout1.yahoo.com (mrout1.yahoo.com [208.48.125.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1679737B740; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:31:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ps@yahoo-inc.com) Received: from yogurt.yahoo.com (root@yogurt.yahoo.com [205.216.162.186]) by mrout1.yahoo.com (8.10.0/8.10.0/y.out) with ESMTP id e65JVOn74618; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ps@localhost) by yogurt.yahoo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09106; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:30:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ps) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:30:45 -0700 From: Paul Saab To: Alan Edmonds Cc: stable@freebsd.org, ps@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable Message-ID: <20000705123045.A9063@yahoo-inc.com> Reply-To: ps@freebsd.org References: <39634AC0.555AC66C@digitalconvergence.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <39634AC0.555AC66C@digitalconvergence.com>; from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 09:48:32AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You need to tell me a bit more information.. I know for a fact that build 079 bootroms on the Intel Etherexpress cards (fxp) have no known issues. There are bugs in their older roms which corrupt the stack and cause our loader to trigger a fault. I need to know the card you are using, the Intel build version (07X). Build 079 is the latest build from Intel and it is the only PXE 2.0 rom that I know of which has no known bugs. Anything newer than 079, I have not tested myself.. paul Alan Edmonds (aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) wrote: > > Is anyone using pxeboot from 4.0-STABLE with the latest Intel PXE ROM > (3.0.03)? I'm getting a register dump when it's loading the kernel. > > Thanks, > -- > Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology > DigitalConvergence.:Com > aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com > Phone: +1-214-292-6040 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 12:52:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dcnv.com (mail.dcnv.com [216.33.117.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBB237B824 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:52:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Received: from digitalconvergence.com (dallas [207.158.100.67]) by mail.dcnv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA33723; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:51:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Message-ID: <39639204.F130147D@digitalconvergence.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 14:52:36 -0500 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug White Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry. Too many versions. It's PXE-2.0 build 078 but Intel Boot Agent 3.0.03. Doug White wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Alan Edmonds wrote: > > > > > Is anyone using pxeboot from 4.0-STABLE with the latest Intel PXE ROM > > (3.0.03)? I'm getting a register dump when it's loading the kernel. > > Where did you get this version? The new machines we have are all 0.X or > 2.X, but no 3.X. > > Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve > dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org -- Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology DigitalConvergence.:Com aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com Phone: +1-214-292-6040 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 12:53:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.unixathome.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB2637BF86 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:53:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@freebsddiary.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by mail.unixathome.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27368; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:53:36 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Kent Stewart Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:53:36 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: make world fails : file exists Reply-To: dan@freebsddiary.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <39643B00.949.4080B0@localhost> In-reply-to: <39638C57.B601B64@3-cities.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 5 Jul 2000, at 12:28, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Dan Langille wrote: > > > > On 5 Jul 2000, at 12:17, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > Dan Langille wrote: > > > > > > > > In my continuing 4-day saga to get 4.0-stable compiled, I encountered > > > > the following error during make world: > > > > > > > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl - > > > > I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 - > > > > I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > > > > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o > > > > toke.o mkdir: build: File exists *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > > > Did you remove the files from /usr/obj/*? > > > > > > I've done 3 cvsups and builds in the last two days on 3 different > > > machines and haven't had any problems. > > > > Yep. I did this: > > > > chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/; > > rm -rf /usr/obj/*; > > rm -rf /usr/tmp/*; > > That takes care of original files with permission problems. I don't do make > world's. I read where that was a good way to ruin your universe and started > doing buildworlds, creating and installing the kernel, rebooting to single > user mode to do the installworld. The way it was explained to me was that > left you with your original world via /kernel.old in case something > happened. > > Since I'm not having any problems and don't have any ideas at this > point, are your just updating your 4.0-Stable or are you moving from > 4.0R to 4.0S? My third attempt to go from 4.0R to 4.0S. -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports well, it was the place for ports. But because of a stuff up, it's http://freshports.freebsddiary.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 12:54:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF5A37BE9C for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:54:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000705195407.QKSE26299.relay02@chello.nl>; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:54:07 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA01086; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:54:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:54:09 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIA chip set Message-ID: <20000705215409.A743@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200007042203.PAA25510@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007042203.PAA25510@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 03:03:46PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 03:03:46PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > There might not be enough time for this, but: > > The local Fry's Electronics is having a 4th of July one day sale. > Featured is a 700MHz AMD Athlon barebones system, including > > Boxed AMD K7 CPU > mid tower ATX case with 300w power supply > and, most important, an installed motherboard > VIA KX133 chipset > 1 AGP slot > 5 PCI slots > 1 ISA slot > 56K modem > 10/100 Ethernet > Audio > 3 DIMM slots for PC-133 memory > > One per customer, $399. Today only. > > Can anyone report results with the Athlon and the KX133 chipset? Yes, works fine on my Abit KA7. But what MB is this offer? [US$400 wow...] -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 13:12:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF1A37BDBD for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:12:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000705201342.YHVK28214.relay01@chello.nl>; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:13:42 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01896; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:12:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:12:33 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Mike Harding Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000705221233.C1649@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <14690.56083.871132.718345@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br> <20000705123740.05979E6EF7@netcom1.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000705123740.05979E6EF7@netcom1.netcom.com>; from mvh@ix.netcom.com on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 05:37:40AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 05:37:40AM -0700, Mike Harding wrote: > > Yeah, but does AMD have disco-dancing clean-room technicians and I've you like that animation you should hunt for the animation Apple put on their web for some PowerMac promo. The same technicians but now literally smoked by the PPC chip ;-) > Sorry about the OT, but these ads have bugged me for years. :) -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 13:42:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0693037BCC2 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:42:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289BCE8D5 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00605; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:06:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14691.16600.959145.736995@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:06:16 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fstab mount options In-Reply-To: References: <14689.1084.894512.504331@onceler.kcilink.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "BK" == Brad Knowles writes: BK> So, if you happen to have any regular fixed disks that are BK> /dev/*da0* (e.g., the ones that /, /usr, /var, etc... are on), you BK> will allow unprivileged users to mount them, presumably unmount them, BK> and otherwise muck about with them however they want?!? Moof! If da0 is your zip drive, then you can rest assured that it does not contain /, /usr, or /var. Those are either gonna be higher-numbered da devices (doubtful) or IDE devices. But yes, this is a personal workstation and the ownerships are only done at graphical console login. Obviously on a shared server you don't want users doing any mounting/unmounting of any devices. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 13:42:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1313937BEDD for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:42:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23050E8D6 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00557; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:00:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14691.16237.960670.977766@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:00:13 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree-4 installation on -STABLE In-Reply-To: References: <396104A3.A89E07F@cybercable.fr> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "KK" == Kris Kennaway writes: >> So, should i delete XFre86 3.3.6 and if so, how could i do ? I've >> not seen any docs on the handbook on that topic. KK> pkg_delete(1) Yes, but when you install FreeBSD 3.x, XFree86 is not installed as a package on which you can run pkg_delete. At least it was not when I did my initial install of FreeBSD 3.3. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 13:42:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127FB37BE9C for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:42:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB397E8D7; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00654; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:12:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14691.16978.528777.960458@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:12:34 -0400 (EDT) To: Harry Putnam Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fstab mount options In-Reply-To: References: <14689.1084.894512.504331@onceler.kcilink.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "HP" == Harry Putnam writes: HP> So I guess I've stepped into a FAQ, but this also deals with removable HP> media. Its not clear if `sysctl' can be used on disk devices too. I HP> didn't mention it in my original post but I mainly wanted to allow HP> users to mount a dos partition. The system doesn't care if /dev/da0c for example, is removable or not when the mount or umount commands are issued. All it knows is to use the driver specified for /dev/da0c. The drive might care if it is removable media, but the system pretty much doesn't care. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 14: 3:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from enigma.whacky.net (enigma.whacky.net [194.109.204.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15F237C424 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:03:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephanb@whacky.net) Received: (from stephanb@localhost) by enigma.whacky.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA52202 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:03:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stephanb) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:29:52 +0200 From: Stephan van Beerschoten To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ipsec/4.0-STABLE Message-ID: <20000705222952.A51824@enigma.whacky.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Currently I am having a secure tunnel from my host to a friend's. We used to have /usr/ports/net/pipsecd installed for this link, which was working perfectly. But now I have remotely upgraded my machine from 3.x to 4.0-STABLE and I have included IPSEC options in the kernel. My friends config hasn't changed, he is still using pipsecd. Can I communicate through kernel/ipsec with his userland pipsecd? if so, how? I have tried getting setkey to work with several parameters, and even trying to 'copy' settings from ${wwwserver}/handbook/ipsec.html but with no efffect. Anyone ? -- Stephan van Beerschoten stephanb@whacky.net PGP fingerprint: 4557 9761 B212 FB4C 778D 3529 C42A 2D27 "This email was brought to you by your local pop server" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 14: 5: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAC937C0FC for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:04:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26334 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:47:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:47:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: building 4.0-stable on 5-current Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is building 4.0-stable on 5-current supported? If so, whats the proper procedure supposed to be, other than cvsup the sources and make buildworld (as a first step)? If its not supposed to work, or is just plain broken for a while, ill try a sysinstall "upgrade" to 4-s bins. buildworld is bombing for me in cc1plus. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 14:17:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077C437BF0F for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:17:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bjf@gw.apt.samurai.com) Received: from gw.apt.samurai.com (HSE-Toronto-ppp132676.sympatico.ca [64.228.75.239]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02919 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by gw.apt.samurai.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F3F9E73; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:17:19 -0400 From: bjf To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: /etc/defaults/rc.conf Message-ID: <20000705171719.A90791@samurai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Howdy, I cvsup'ed to RELENG_4 last night on a couple-month-old 3.4-STABLE machine, built and installed everything as per instructions, including mergemaster'ing. When I was done, /etc/defaults/rc.conf doesn't read in /etc/rc.conf settings any more, which is rather a huge pain in the ass (especially not setting defaultrouter). The difference in parsing /etc/rc.conf seems to be this: ===== end of /etc/defaults/rc.conf from 4.0-RELEASE: [...] ############################################################## ### Allow local configuration override at the very end here ## ############################################################## # # for i in ${rc_conf_files}; do if [ -f $i ]; then . $i fi done ===== ===== end of /etc/defaults/rc.conf from 4.0-STABLE ############################################################## ### Define source_rc_confs, the mechanism used by /etc/rc.* ## ### scripts to source rc_conf_files overrides safely. ## ############################################################## if [ -z "${source_rc_confs_defined}" ]; then source_rc_confs_defined=yes source_rc_confs ( ) { local i sourced_files for i in ${rc_conf_files}; do case ${sourced_files} in *:$i:*) ;; *) sourced_files="${sourced_files}:$i:" if [ -r $i ]; then . $i fi ;; esac done } fi ===== The latter doesn't seem to actually work for some reason when called from /etc/rc. Any ideas if I've missed something or if this is a legitimate bug? Thanks, Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competency Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 14:20:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.hei.net (catfish.hei.net [209.222.163.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5492137B53E for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:20:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@atbd.com) Received: from laptop (04-178.021.popsite.net [192.216.196.178]) by salmon.hei.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA12091; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:20:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "John A. Hengstler" To: "Adam" Cc: Subject: RE: building 4.0-stable on 5-current Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:19:24 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the same problem about a month ago, and did the following steps to get to 4.0-stable from 5.0-current: 1. change tag to RELENG_4 and cvsup in 5.0 2. Did a minimal 4.0-release sysinstall from CD (NO SOURCE) 3. rebooted using 4.0-generic... 4. make world, and rebuilt kernel, rebooted 5. Did a final cvsup to make sure source was up to date. Whether this is the right way or not, it worked for me! Good luck ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- John A. Hengstler Inventory Control Manager The America Group Inc. Corporate Offices 9700 NE 126th Avenue Suite 1000 Vancouver Washington 98682 USA (360) 816-0142 http://www.atbd.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Adam Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 1:48 PM To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: building 4.0-stable on 5-current Is building 4.0-stable on 5-current supported? If so, whats the proper procedure supposed to be, other than cvsup the sources and make buildworld (as a first step)? If its not supposed to work, or is just plain broken for a while, ill try a sysinstall "upgrade" to 4-s bins. buildworld is bombing for me in cc1plus. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 14:34: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rjk191.rh.psu.edu (RJK191.rh.psu.edu [128.118.194.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E24237B621 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:33:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ray@rjk191.rh.psu.edu) Received: (from ray@localhost) by rjk191.rh.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00246 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:33:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ray) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:33:53 -0400 From: Ray Kohler To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: building 4.0-stable on 5-current Message-ID: <20000705173353.A235@rjk191.rh.psu.edu> Reply-To: rjk191@psu.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from john@atbd.com on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 02:19:24PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 1:48 PM To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: building 4.0-stable on 5-current > Is building 4.0-stable on 5-current supported? If so, whats the proper > procedure supposed to be, other than cvsup the sources and make buildworld > (as a first step)? > > If its not supposed to work, or is just plain broken for a while, ill try > a sysinstall "upgrade" to 4-s bins. buildworld is bombing for me in > cc1plus. Go to /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils and do make all install clean. You need to downgrade binutils this way before you can downgrade gcc. -- Ray Kohler FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve Justice always prevails ... three times out of seven! -- Michael J. Wagner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 15:11:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C2337B642; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:11:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29251; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:11:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007052211.PAA29251@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: VIA chip set In-Reply-To: <20000705215409.A743@freebie.wbnet> from Wilko Bulte at "Jul 5, 0 09:54:09 pm" To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:11:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 03:03:46PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: >> There might not be enough time for this, but: >> >> The local Fry's Electronics is having a 4th of July one day sale. >> Featured is a 700MHz AMD Athlon barebones system, including >> >> Boxed AMD K7 CPU >> mid tower ATX case with 300w power supply >> and, most important, an installed motherboard >> VIA KX133 chipset >> 1 AGP slot >> 5 PCI slots >> 1 ISA slot >> 56K modem >> 10/100 Ethernet >> Audio >> 3 DIMM slots for PC-133 memory >> >> One per customer, $399. Today only. >> >> Can anyone report results with the Athlon and the KX133 chipset? > > Yes, works fine on my Abit KA7. But what MB is this offer? Unknown. I copied everything in the ad, and the guy on the phone didn't know. Today there's a barebones that's even more bare (no ethernet, modem or audio). AMD Athlon 650MHz boxed CPU AMD approved power supply and case. FIC SD11 motherboard installed floppy drive One per customer at $279. This might be a better choice if you're concerned about getting a supported sound or ethernet card. I'd add in the 13GB Ultra DMA/66 hard drive for $85... Anyone veto the FIC MoBo? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 15:18:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7A337B6EA; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:18:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Received: from localhost (lplist@localhost) by q.closedsrc.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e65MHuT69109; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:17:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:17:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIA chip set In-Reply-To: <200007052211.PAA29251@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Anyone veto the FIC MoBo? I thought that the FIC SD11 motherboard couldn't support some of the GeForce 256 video cards because it couldn't supply enough power to the AGP slot. Too bad they do not offer one with a Tyan or an Abit motherboard :( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 15:43:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front001.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F6137B86F; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:43:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.7.99] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front001.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 12716427; Wed, 05 Jul 2000 18:43:50 -0400 From: David Uhring To: chad@DCFinc.com, "Chad R. Larson" , wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIA chip set Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:40:46 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200007052211.PAA29251@freeway.dcfinc.com> In-Reply-To: <200007052211.PAA29251@freeway.dcfinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00070517434901.00755@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 03:03:46PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > >> There might not be enough time for this, but: > >> > >> The local Fry's Electronics is having a 4th of July one day sale. > >> Featured is a 700MHz AMD Athlon barebones system, including > >> > >> Boxed AMD K7 CPU > >> mid tower ATX case with 300w power supply > >> and, most important, an installed motherboard > >> VIA KX133 chipset > >> 1 AGP slot > >> 5 PCI slots > >> 1 ISA slot > >> 56K modem > >> 10/100 Ethernet > >> Audio > >> 3 DIMM slots for PC-133 memory > >> > >> One per customer, $399. Today only. > >> > >> Can anyone report results with the Athlon and the KX133 chipset? > > > > Yes, works fine on my Abit KA7. But what MB is this offer? > > Unknown. I copied everything in the ad, and the guy on the phone didn't > know. > > Today there's a barebones that's even more bare (no ethernet, modem or > audio). > > AMD Athlon 650MHz boxed CPU > AMD approved power supply and case. > FIC SD11 motherboard installed > floppy drive > > One per customer at $279. > > This might be a better choice if you're concerned about getting a > supported sound or ethernet card. I'd add in the 13GB Ultra DMA/66 > hard drive for $85... > > Anyone veto the FIC MoBo? > > -crl > -- > Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? > chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message I don't know about Athlon FIC mobos, but FIC Super7 mobos will not allow you to use 3dfx Voodoo3/3000. I tried the 3dfx card in PA-2013 and VA-503A and finally bought an EFA MATX mobo to use in my son's Win98SE machine. He is an avid Q3A player. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 16:48:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4E137B641 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:48:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (dialup314.brussels2.skynet.be [195.238.24.58]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80593180C4; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 01:48:36 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <39638C57.B601B64@3-cities.com> References: <3964337F.8996.2333AB@localhost> <39638C57.B601B64@3-cities.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 01:28:56 +0200 To: Kent Stewart , dan@freebsddiary.org From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: make world fails : file exists Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:28 PM -0700 2000/7/5, Kent Stewart wrote: > That takes care of original files with permission problems. I don't do > make world's. I read where that was a good way to ruin your universe > and started doing buildworlds, creating and installing the kernel, > rebooting to single user mode to do the installworld. The way it was > explained to me was that left you with your original world via > /kernel.old in case something happened. Hmm. Don't you have to make the kernel with different options, if you haven't done an installworld yet? Otherwise, how do you get it to recognize the new libraries and other objects that have been built with the new sources, but haven't been installed yet? Also, if an installworld dies in the middle, you'll have an old kernel that may be partially compatible with some parts, and a new kernel that will be partially compatible with some parts, but either way you may have significant breakage. Has anyone figured out what the odds of this are, and compared the potential against doing a buildworld/installworld first and then following that by re-making and installing the new kernel? Thanks! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 17: 1:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [12.9.219.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D077037B7AB for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:01:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Received: from HARLIE.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [12.9.219.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e6601Hb01187; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:01:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Linh Pham Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIA chip set In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > Does anyone know if the boxed AMD processors that they are including the > new Thunderbird varieties? Almost definitely not, since the Thunderbird motherboards are a very scarce commodity at the moment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 17:31:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fnal.gov (heffalump.fnal.gov [131.225.9.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A1B37BBBB for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:31:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tez@nova.fnal.gov) Received: from nova.fnal.gov ([131.225.18.207]) by smtp.fnal.gov (PMDF V6.0-24 #44770) with ESMTP id <0FX900F852S226@smtp.fnal.gov> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:31:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (tez@localhost) by nova.fnal.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA04090; Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:31:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:31:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Zingelman Subject: Re: make world fails : file exists In-reply-to: <39642E08.21453.DD904@localhost> To: Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Tim Zingelman Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You might want to shutdown to single user and fsck the disks... I had a 4.0-R system that was doing random things to my disk until I upgraded my system BIOS. I ended up with files that should be directories as plain files or symlinks and visa-versa... After I got a clean fsck, then I had to go through and delete the messed up files before an installworld would finish... though the buildworld worked fine... I've also seen the following in a recent message here (though it was regarding a 3.x->4.x build): make -DNOPERL buildworld - Tim On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Dan Langille wrote: > In my continuing 4-day saga to get 4.0-stable compiled, I encountered > the following error during make world: > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl - > I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 - > I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o toke.o > mkdir: build: File exists > *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 17:42:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dcnv.com (mail.dcnv.com [216.33.117.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE8037BC68; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:42:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Received: from digitalconvergence.com (dallas [207.158.100.67]) by mail.dcnv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA46931; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:41:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Message-ID: <3963D601.46A51C0A@digitalconvergence.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:42:41 -0500 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Saab Cc: John Baldwin , Bill Fumerola , ps@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [jhb@FreeBSD.org: Re: [aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable]] References: <20000705170516.L4034@jade.chc-chimes.com> <3963A776.8AB99AC7@digitalconvergence.com> <3963B7D7.1DC5F5C5@FreeBSD.org> <3963D07D.4D13B9B9@digitalconvergence.com> <20000705172602.A26402@elvis.mu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Paul Saab wrote: > > Alan Edmonds (aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) wrote: > > Good (maybe) news. > > > > WIth Paul Saab's help, I loaded a new version of the PXE ROM > > code into the adapter. I loaded PXE 2.0 build 082. > > > > It now successfully loads the kernel. Here's the new > > problem. After the kernel loads, I get > > > > pxe_netif: probe failed 0x60 > > netboot: couldn't probe pxenet0 > > Ok.. This was fixed in -current, but I forgot to MFC it.. :P Maybe. I'm using picobsd if that matters. > > Then kernel then initializes, but fails to mount the root fs. > > You need to specify where the root filesystem is in your loader.rc > set vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/da0s1a" Another oopsy on my part. I took out the load -t mfs_root fs.PICOBSD in the loader.rc file. I put it back in and it works! I still get the probe failure, but it works! I'm going to copy this to stable for the archives. Thanks for the help. -- Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology DigitalConvergence.:Com aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com Phone: +1-214-292-6040 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 17:44:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF11237BF45; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:44:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E91B11C64; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:44:41 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Alan Edmonds Cc: Paul Saab , John Baldwin , ps@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [jhb@FreeBSD.org: Re: [aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable]] Message-ID: <20000705204441.T4034@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <20000705170516.L4034@jade.chc-chimes.com> <3963A776.8AB99AC7@digitalconvergence.com> <3963B7D7.1DC5F5C5@FreeBSD.org> <3963D07D.4D13B9B9@digitalconvergence.com> <20000705172602.A26402@elvis.mu.org> <3963D601.46A51C0A@digitalconvergence.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3963D601.46A51C0A@digitalconvergence.com>; from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 07:42:41PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 07:42:41PM -0500, Alan Edmonds wrote: > > You need to specify where the root filesystem is in your loader.rc > > set vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/da0s1a" > > Another oopsy on my part. I took out the > > load -t mfs_root fs.PICOBSD > > in the loader.rc file. I put it back in and > it works! I still get the probe failure, > but it works! Yeah, I can't comment on the PXE probe failure stuff, but putting that line back in will give the loader the hint it needs. Glad you got this resolved. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CHIMES e-mail: billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 18: 4: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFF637B56B; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DFEF12B21D; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:03:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:03:51 -0700 From: Paul Saab To: Alan Edmonds Cc: John Baldwin , Bill Fumerola , ps@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [jhb@FreeBSD.org: Re: [aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable]] Message-ID: <20000705180351.A26935@elvis.mu.org> References: <20000705170516.L4034@jade.chc-chimes.com> <3963A776.8AB99AC7@digitalconvergence.com> <3963B7D7.1DC5F5C5@FreeBSD.org> <3963D07D.4D13B9B9@digitalconvergence.com> <20000705172602.A26402@elvis.mu.org> <3963D601.46A51C0A@digitalconvergence.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3963D601.46A51C0A@digitalconvergence.com>; from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 07:42:41PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alan Edmonds (aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) wrote: > > > Then kernel then initializes, but fails to mount the root fs. > > > > You need to specify where the root filesystem is in your loader.rc > > set vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/da0s1a" > > Another oopsy on my part. I took out the > > load -t mfs_root fs.PICOBSD > > in the loader.rc file. I put it back in and > it works! I still get the probe failure, > but it works! > > I'm going to copy this to stable for the archives. For mfs root, you need to do set vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/md0c" -- Paul Saab Technical Yahoo paul@mu.org - ps@yahoo-inc.com - ps@freebsd.org Do You .. uhh .. Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 18: 6:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D738337B6AB; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:06:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4911B2B21D; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:06:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:06:21 -0700 From: Paul Saab To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Alan Edmonds , John Baldwin , ps@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [jhb@FreeBSD.org: Re: [aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable]] Message-ID: <20000705180621.B26935@elvis.mu.org> References: <20000705170516.L4034@jade.chc-chimes.com> <3963A776.8AB99AC7@digitalconvergence.com> <3963B7D7.1DC5F5C5@FreeBSD.org> <3963D07D.4D13B9B9@digitalconvergence.com> <20000705172602.A26402@elvis.mu.org> <3963D601.46A51C0A@digitalconvergence.com> <20000705204441.T4034@jade.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000705204441.T4034@jade.chc-chimes.com>; from billf@chimesnet.com on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 08:44:41PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Fumerola (billf@chimesnet.com) wrote: > Yeah, I can't comment on the PXE probe failure stuff, but putting that > line back in will give the loader the hint it needs. Basically, I was unloading the PXE stack too early on in the process. -- Paul Saab Technical Yahoo paul@mu.org - ps@yahoo-inc.com - ps@freebsd.org Do You .. uhh .. Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 18:20:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05A937B6EA for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:20:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA20265; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:20:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-65.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.65) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma020223; Wed Jul 5 20:20:00 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000705201259.00b9db70@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 20:19:20 -0500 To: bjf , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf In-Reply-To: <20000705171719.A90791@samurai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:17 PM 7/5/00 -0400, bjf wrote: >Howdy, > >I cvsup'ed to RELENG_4 last night on a couple-month-old 3.4-STABLE machine, >built and installed everything as per instructions, including mergemaster'ing. >When I was done, /etc/defaults/rc.conf doesn't read in /etc/rc.conf >settings any more, which is rather a huge pain in the ass (especially not >setting defaultrouter). You did make sure to update all the rc. files right? If you updated /etc/defaults/rc.conf without /etc/rc, this will happen. At least it did when I did a partial merge before rebuilding my 4.0-S and forgot about the rc* commits. No complaints seen for either 3 or 4 for these commits. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 18:34:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD6137B6EA for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:34:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA20341; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:34:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-65.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.65) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma020339; Wed Jul 5 20:34:17 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000705202256.00ba04d0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 20:33:24 -0500 To: Mike Harding , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: <20000705123740.05979E6EF7@netcom1.netcom.com> References: <14690.56083.871132.718345@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br> <14690.56083.871132.718345@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:37 AM 7/5/00 -0700, Mike Harding wrote: >Yeah, but does AMD have disco-dancing clean-room technicians and >animated sock monkeys? Does AMD "improve your internet experience" >with "brighter colors?" The past 2 years Intel has been terrible with the BS it pushes on the mostly ignorant consumer. Have been rooting for AMD since the K7/Athalon was in design. Intel's recent problems and refusal of supporting PC133 and DDRSDRAM to push (or should I say ram) RAMBUS on everyone.. No need to rant, but AMD has come a long way. My next personal system will be a dual AMD. The capability is due later this year. With their greatly improved production capacity Intel best look out, since they will then be able to start in on the mid-range server market. They only question then is SMP support for AMD system. >Sorry about the OT, but these ads have bugged me for years. :) Intel's policies have PO'd me for ages now, so pardon my OT rant. Intel Inside^H^H^H^H^H^HElsewhere. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 19:20:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9755337B6A8 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:20:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 8680 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jul 2000 02:20:07 -0000 Received: from p3ee0b3b7.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.224.179.183) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 6 Jul 2000 02:20:07 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA14509 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:16:33 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:16:33 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable Message-ID: <20000705221633.E5945@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <39634AC0.555AC66C@digitalconvergence.com> <20000705130421.M4034@jade.chc-chimes.com> <39637CAE.A9FFCD03@digitalconvergence.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <39637CAE.A9FFCD03@digitalconvergence.com>; from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 01:21:34PM -0500 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 13:21 -0500, Alan Edmonds wrote: > > [ ... CPU register dump ... ] > > Is there a disassembler available for FreeBSD? objdump could be your friend, look out for the -d switch virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 19:33:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A497737BFE3 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:33:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.62]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:35:25 -0700 Message-ID: <3963F021.5571C925@3-cities.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:34:09 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Knowles Cc: dan@freebsddiary.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world fails : file exists References: <3964337F.8996.2333AB@localhost> <39638C57.B601B64@3-cities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad Knowles wrote: > > At 12:28 PM -0700 2000/7/5, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > That takes care of original files with permission problems. I don't do > > make world's. I read where that was a good way to ruin your universe > > and started doing buildworlds, creating and installing the kernel, > > rebooting to single user mode to do the installworld. The way it was > > explained to me was that left you with your original world via > > /kernel.old in case something happened. > > Hmm. Don't you have to make the kernel with different options, > if you haven't done an installworld yet? Otherwise, how do you get > it to recognize the new libraries and other objects that have been > built with the new sources, but haven't been installed yet? In the early days of 4.0 this was the suggested mode. Later, comments were made that it didn't matter which way you did it. What I have found is that doing a 2nd config, make depend, and make after the installworld always generates a message that everything is up todate. The sources are still where the cvsup left them and the config took them from there. You just don't have modules that agree with the new kernel until you do the installworld. > > Also, if an installworld dies in the middle, you'll have an old > kernel that may be partially compatible with some parts, and a new > kernel that will be partially compatible with some parts, but either > way you may have significant breakage. I've had numerous buildworld's fail but never the installworld. I have also had a number of kernel errors but they weren't related to the world. I just like the idea of having a matched set before I start the installs. Kent > > Has anyone figured out what the odds of this are, and compared > the potential against doing a buildworld/installworld first and then > following that by re-making and installing the new kernel? > > Thanks! > > -- > These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy > ====================================================================== > Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV > Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 > Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels > http://www.skynet.be || Belgium -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 22:17: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E4737C177 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:16:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20413; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:16:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA47998; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:16:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007060516.XAA47998@harmony.village.org> To: "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" Subject: Re: Follow-up: XirCom Realport Cardbus Modem/Ethernet PC card Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:13:55 EDT." References: Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 23:16:25 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" writes: : Hi, folks... just following up to check on the status of support in : 4.0-STABLE for the ethernet portion of a XirCom Realport Cardbus : Modem/Ethernet PC card. Has the support managed to work its way in yet? Nope. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 22:18: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F407A37B859 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:18:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20426 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:18:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA48025 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:17:40 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007060517.XAA48025@harmony.village.org> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Follow-up: XirCom Realport Cardbus Modem/Ethernet PC card In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:42:01 EDT." <20000629154201.E4517@pir.net> References: <20000629154201.E4517@pir.net> <20000629141646.D4517@pir.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 23:17:40 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000629154201.E4517@pir.net> Peter Radcliffe writes: : As soon as the good people who are working on the code get it finished. It will be a matter of months. Unfortunately, work and side consulting has been keeping me too busy to do work on cardbus/newcard. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 22:47:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033B637B754; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:47:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20525; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:47:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA48229; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:46:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007060546.XAA48229@harmony.village.org> To: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: KerberosIV in 3.x (Re: problems building world?) Cc: Doug Barton , Greg Rumple , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Jul 2000 02:40:05 PDT." References: Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 23:46:44 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In message Kris Kennaway writes: : Assar's commit was wholly authorized by the security-officers, including : the possibility of breakage. It was important we get this in ASAP, for : reasons which will soon become clear. Yes. I completely endorsed the commit, tested it personally, and did a light review of the patches. I knew it was a big change, but Kerberos IV was so holey that I went ahead and authorized it. Warner -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAwUBOWQdQlUuHi5z0oilAQE7jAP/Z7eg+iYyzVkrrarMwm6sK9o4UG8gnhtg kLBoQvep5ZW83yLaYruZzG7QflSs2Sy9sRjvV4VvsgY2XaxPjyHGiMBhbPdWEbgE zmOivEBhtXtJKoI5D2OuEuES2gS2RNsv4cY6MSmrNwnI1yXO2pqG/l2nFmW8pmLD lE5EhucZzGE= =fm3Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 22:48:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4530237B8FA; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:48:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20535; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:48:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA48249; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:48:31 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007060548.XAA48249@harmony.village.org> To: jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading from 3-STABLE to 4-STABLE from sources Cc: John Hay , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Jul 2000 03:12:17 PDT." <200007051012.DAA25776@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200007051012.DAA25776@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 23:48:31 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200007051012.DAA25776@freefall.freebsd.org> jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG writes: : I hadn't realized that /usr/src/UPDATING was useful on the 4-STABLE branch. : It isn't very useful on 3-STABLE. I'm trying to keep up with this. : No, I didn't follow the procedure in /usr/src/UPDATING. I did a `make : world' and then had to rescue the system. : : The procedure in /usr/src/UPDATING seems more comprehensive, and also : somewhat more terse that what I had posted. If the `make installworld' : step there uses the newly built GCC (v2.95.2) then it should work correctly. : : The use of `__func__', the troublesome GCCism, brought into the 4-STABLE : branch of "src/sys/i386/i386/in_cksum.c" on 2000/05/05. Was your upgrade : done after this date? I've not hit this when I've done upgrading by the book. I have hit when I tried to build the kernel without doing make buildkernel Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 22:54:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD2A37B754 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:54:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20551; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:54:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA48279; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:54:26 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007060554.XAA48279@harmony.village.org> To: Adam Subject: Re: building 4.0-stable on 5-current Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:47:51 EDT." References: Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 23:54:26 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Adam writes: : Is building 4.0-stable on 5-current supported? If so, whats the proper : procedure supposed to be, other than cvsup the sources and make buildworld : (as a first step)? make buildworld has worked for me. I've been building 5.0 on -stable and 4.x stable on -current on and off for a while now. Should work for you. That's one of the big things that the cross tools targets bought us. Oh, make sure that you follow the proceedure in UPDATING exactly for kernels, or you will have lots of problems. There are problems INSTALLING a 4.x-stable on a 5.0-current system. I tried once, hit problems and punted. I don't recall what they were, but I think it was major library numbers at a start and others I didn't want to deal with. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 23:12:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EB837B719 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:12:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@freebsddiary.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA30510; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:11:57 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Tim Zingelman Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:11:56 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: make world fails : file exists Reply-To: dan@freebsddiary.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3964CBEC.26402.276CD54@localhost> References: <39642E08.21453.DD904@localhost> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 5 Jul 2000, at 19:31, Tim Zingelman wrote: > You might want to shutdown to single user and fsck the disks... I had a > 4.0-R system that was doing random things to my disk until I upgraded my > system BIOS. I ended up with files that should be directories as plain > files or symlinks and visa-versa... After I got a clean fsck, then I had > to go through and delete the messed up files before an installworld would > finish... though the buildworld worked fine... > > I've also seen the following in a recent message here (though it was > regarding a 3.x->4.x build): make -DNOPERL buildworld > > - Tim > > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Dan Langille wrote: > > > In my continuing 4-day saga to get 4.0-stable compiled, I encountered the > > following error during make world: > > > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl - > > I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 - > > I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o > > toke.o mkdir: build: File exists *** Error code 1 After a shutdown to single user mode, I did a make clean, and then a make world. The above error repeated. I did an fsck /dev/da0 and everything was fine. I'm about to do my fifth cvsup in five days. And also send another message to the client explaining why their server is delayed. I love PCs. -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports well, it was the place for ports. But because of a stuff up, it's http://freshports.freebsddiary.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 23:39:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED0A37C15D for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:39:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA82096; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:40:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200007060640.IAA82096@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? In-Reply-To: <396368C9.C3C5A50F@polytechnic.edu.na> from Tim Priebe at "Jul 5, 2000 05:56:41 pm" To: tim@iafrica.com.na Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:40:15 +0200 (CEST) Cc: David Gilbert , Kevin Oberman , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > just curious, what do we do when we have multiple encapsulation ? > > (i.e. is this allowed ?) ... > I am not sure what you mean. If you mean "VLAN encapsulation", then it > is a misunderstanding. The standard Ethernet frame is not encapsulated. ok think of the following: I have a st machine which goes through a VLAN bridge out to a trunk interface, which in turn goes into a VLAN bridge which does trunkinking again ... basically you might end up with frames being encapsulated multiple times (and decapsulated on the reverse path). Now i wonder if this is allowed by the vlan spec and also how does a vlan bridge behaves when it sees a vlan-tagged frame on a non-trunk port. I do know how my FreeBSD-based vlan bridge behaves -- it does multiple encaps, but then if a packet becomes too large it is silently dropped by the interface. cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) Mobile +39-347-0373137 -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 23:54:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.binep.ac.ru (ns.binep.ac.ru [193.233.37.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CAD337B5ED for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:54:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goshik@binep.ac.ru) Received: from serv2.binep.ac.ru (serv2 [193.233.44.77]) by ns.binep.ac.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA81726; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:54:26 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from goshik@binep.ac.ru) Reply-To: "Igor B. Bykhalo" From: "Igor B. Bykhalo" To: Cc: Subject: Re: make world fails : file exists Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:49:49 +0300 Message-ID: <01bfe71e$c2a08c80$0000e9c1@serv2.binep.ac.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0913.2206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0913.2200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dan, > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Dan Langille wrote: > > > In my continuing 4-day saga to get 4.0-stable compiled, I encountered the > > following error during make world: > > > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl - > > I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 - > > I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o > > toke.o mkdir: build: File exists *** Error code 1 > > After a shutdown to single user mode, I did a make clean, and then a > make world. The above error repeated. > > I did an fsck /dev/da0 and everything was fine. I'm about to do my fifth > cvsup in five days. And also send another message to the client > explaining why their server is delayed. I had this mystery a month ago. I say mystery, because after 4th or 5th CVSup I decided to ran ntpdate to correct the machine's time, it was corrected for about 30 seconds, and guess what I get? Next buildworld went flawlessly! @#$!!!! Dunno what helped - CVSup or ntpdate... > > > > I love PCs. Yea... > -- > Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited Good luck, Igor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 5 23:59:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21A337C173 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:59:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01372; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 02:59:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 02:59:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: rjk191@psu.edu Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: building 4.0-stable on 5-current In-Reply-To: <20000705173353.A235@rjk191.rh.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Is building 4.0-stable on 5-current supported? If so, whats the proper >> procedure supposed to be, other than cvsup the sources and make buildworld >> (as a first step)? >> >> If its not supposed to work, or is just plain broken for a while, ill try >> a sysinstall "upgrade" to 4-s bins. buildworld is bombing for me in >> cc1plus. > >Go to /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils and do make all install clean. >You need to downgrade binutils this way before you can downgrade >gcc. > >-- >Ray Kohler Thanks, that worked. I did a buildworld and made a kernel after that and installed both and everything seems to be working nicely now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 0:36:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057A937B659 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:36:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@freebsddiary.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA31056; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:35:57 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: "Igor B. Bykhalo" Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:35:55 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: make world fails : file exists Reply-To: dan@freebsddiary.org Cc: Message-ID: <3964DF9B.5211.2C3B2F0@localhost> In-reply-to: <01bfe71e$c2a08c80$0000e9c1@serv2.binep.ac.ru> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 6 Jul 2000, at 10:49, Igor B. Bykhalo wrote: > Dan, > > > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > > In my continuing 4-day saga to get 4.0-stable compiled, I encountered > > > the following error during make world: > > > > > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl - > > > I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 - > > > I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > > > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o > > > toke.o mkdir: build: File exists *** Error code 1 > > > > After a shutdown to single user mode, I did a make clean, and then a make > > world. The above error repeated. > > > > I did an fsck /dev/da0 and everything was fine. I'm about to do my fifth > > cvsup in five days. And also send another message to the client > > explaining why their server is delayed. > > > I had this mystery a month ago. I say mystery, because > after 4th or 5th CVSup I decided to ran ntpdate to correct > the machine's time, it was corrected for about 30 seconds, > and guess what I get? Next buildworld went flawlessly! @#$!!!! > Dunno what helped - CVSup or ntpdate... Hmmm, I had just finished my cvsup before your email arrived. I checked the time on the troublesome box. It was out by about 30-45 seconds compared to my cvsup server. We'll know in about 12 hours (it's a P100).... -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports well, it was the place for ports. But because of a stuff up, it's http://freshports.freebsddiary.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 0:54:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFDC37B898; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:54:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs10.alcatel.fr (mailhub2.alcatel.fr [155.132.188.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id JAA16951; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:53:50 +0200 From: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Received: from frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr (frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.251.32]) by aifhs10.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with SMTP id JAA00320; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:51:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id C1256914.002B5C8F ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:53:37 +0200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALCATEL To: ps@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:53:26 +0200 Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, is there a remote chance getting PXE to work with a 3COM 3C905 NIC (this is what I have on the motherboard of some of my PCs) ? TfH Paul Saab on 05/07/2000 21:30:45 Please respond to ps@FreeBSD.ORG To: Alan Edmonds cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG(bcc: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL) Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable You need to tell me a bit more information.. I know for a fact that build 079 bootroms on the Intel Etherexpress cards (fxp) have no known issues. There are bugs in their older roms which corrupt the stack and cause our loader to trigger a fault. I need to know the card you are using, the Intel build version (07X). Build 079 is the latest build from Intel and it is the only PXE 2.0 rom that I know of which has no known bugs. Anything newer than 079, I have not tested myself.. paul Alan Edmonds (aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) wrote: > > Is anyone using pxeboot from 4.0-STABLE with the latest Intel PXE ROM > (3.0.03)? I'm getting a register dump when it's loading the kernel. > > Thanks, > -- > Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology > DigitalConvergence.:Com > aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com > Phone: +1-214-292-6040 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 0:57: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813E737B898; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DA0C42B209; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 02:56:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:56:51 -0700 From: Paul Saab To: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Cc: ps@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable Message-ID: <20000706005651.A33597@elvis.mu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 09:53:26AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If it supports PXE, then pxeboot will work. paul Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr (Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) wrote: > > > Hello, > > is there a remote chance getting PXE to work with a 3COM 3C905 NIC (this is what I have > on the motherboard of some of my PCs) ? > > TfH > > > > > > Paul Saab on 05/07/2000 21:30:45 > > Please respond to ps@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > To: Alan Edmonds > > cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG(bcc: Thierry > HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL) > > > > Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable > > > > > > > You need to tell me a bit more information.. I know for a fact that > build 079 bootroms on the Intel Etherexpress cards (fxp) have no known > issues. There are bugs in their older roms which corrupt the stack and > cause our loader to trigger a fault. > > I need to know the card you are using, the Intel build version (07X). > Build 079 is the latest build from Intel and it is the only PXE 2.0 rom > that I know of which has no known bugs. > > Anything newer than 079, I have not tested myself.. > > paul > > Alan Edmonds (aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) wrote: > > > > Is anyone using pxeboot from 4.0-STABLE with the latest Intel PXE ROM > > (3.0.03)? I'm getting a register dump when it's loading the kernel. > > > > Thanks, > > -- > > Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology > > DigitalConvergence.:Com > > aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com > > Phone: +1-214-292-6040 > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > -- Paul Saab Technical Yahoo paul@mu.org - ps@yahoo-inc.com - ps@freebsd.org Do You .. uhh .. Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 1: 9:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from minubian.houabg.com (minubian.houabg.com [206.109.247.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9E037C12C for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 01:09:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dchapman@houabg.com) Received: from houcbs2.houabg.com (mailhost.houabg.com [206.109.247.20]) by minubian.houabg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA06871 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 04:11:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dchapman@houabg.com) Received: from 216-118-21-147.pdq.net by houcbs2.houabg.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id 3DC8AR7A; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 03:13:37 -0500 Message-ID: <06cc01bfe720$ee648cc0$931576d8@inethouston.net> X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: , "Igor B. Bykhalo" Cc: References: <3964DF9B.5211.2C3B2F0@localhost> Subject: Re: make world fails : file exists Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 03:05:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4029.2901 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4029.2901 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently had a problem with make world failing, specifically on the part where it compiles tcpdump in /usr/src/contrib/tcpdump. I tried cvsuping for 3 days and that didn't fix it. I had to rm -r /usr/src and recvsup to fix it, it may be a totally different problem, I don't know. That clock is 7 minutes off though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Langille" To: "Igor B. Bykhalo" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 2:35 AM Subject: Re: make world fails : file exists > On 6 Jul 2000, at 10:49, Igor B. Bykhalo wrote: > > > Dan, > > > > > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > > > > In my continuing 4-day saga to get 4.0-stable compiled, I encountered > > > > the following error during make world: > > > > > > > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl - > > > > I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 - > > > > I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > > > > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o > > > > toke.o mkdir: build: File exists *** Error code 1 > > > > > > After a shutdown to single user mode, I did a make clean, and then a make > > > world. The above error repeated. > > > > > > I did an fsck /dev/da0 and everything was fine. I'm about to do my fifth > > > cvsup in five days. And also send another message to the client > > > explaining why their server is delayed. > > > > > > I had this mystery a month ago. I say mystery, because > > after 4th or 5th CVSup I decided to ran ntpdate to correct > > the machine's time, it was corrected for about 30 seconds, > > and guess what I get? Next buildworld went flawlessly! @#$!!!! > > Dunno what helped - CVSup or ntpdate... > > Hmmm, I had just finished my cvsup before your email arrived. I > checked the time on the troublesome box. It was out by about 30-45 > seconds compared to my cvsup server. We'll know in about 12 hours > (it's a P100).... > -- > Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited > FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports > well, it was the place for ports. But because of a stuff > up, it's http://freshports.freebsddiary.org/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 1:20:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56AD37B7F0 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 01:19:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id KAA19213; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:17:06 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 19210; Thu Jul 6 10:16:50 2000 Message-ID: <252f164763d80f7d24a27596529b8450@cequrux.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:18:31 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Kazutaka YOKOTA , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-4.0S/psmintr out of sync/Synaptics Touchpad References: <41892.962825101@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------715AA62B84C7D3D2EAB84DD8" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------715AA62B84C7D3D2EAB84DD8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As Jordan as reported a similar problem (or the same problem) with a regular Logitech mouse in -current, I thought it would be worth posting my current patches. Yesterday I once again had the behaviour of the past weekend, so I now have added a flag to indicate the type of sync problem currently being experienced so that the driver can adapt on the fly. It's still not perfect, but its quite close now (I think the occasional aberattions I see occur at points where the mode variable gets toggled). Because this is starting to get messy, I have attached both a patch and the first 120 lines of my version of the psmintr routine. regards gram -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 --------------715AA62B84C7D3D2EAB84DD8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="psm.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="psm.patch" *** psm.c.orig Tue Jun 6 22:01:56 2000 --- psm.c Thu Jul 6 09:58:39 2000 *************** *** 59,64 **** --- 59,67 ---- * - 5 March 1997. Defined driver configuration flags (PSM_CONFIG_XXX). * Improved sync check logic. * Vendor specific support routines. + * + * Synaptics Touchpad support added by Graham Wheeler + * - June 2000 */ #include "opt_psm.h" *************** *** 259,264 **** --- 262,268 ---- static probefunc_t enable_4dplus; static probefunc_t enable_mmanplus; static probefunc_t enable_versapad; + static probefunc_t enable_synaptics; static int tame_mouse __P((struct psm_softc *, mousestatus_t *, unsigned char *)); static struct { *************** *** 283,288 **** --- 287,294 ---- 0x08, MOUSE_4D_PACKETSIZE, enable_4dmouse, }, { MOUSE_MODEL_4DPLUS, /* A4 Tech 4D+ Mouse */ 0xc8, MOUSE_4DPLUS_PACKETSIZE, enable_4dplus, }, + { MOUSE_MODEL_SYNAPTICS, /* Synaptics touchpad */ + 0xc8, MOUSE_PS2_PACKETSIZE*/, enable_synaptics, }, { MOUSE_MODEL_INTELLI, /* Microsoft IntelliMouse */ 0x08, MOUSE_PS2INTELLI_PACKETSIZE, enable_msintelli, }, { MOUSE_MODEL_GLIDEPOINT, /* ALPS GlidePoint */ *************** *** 294,300 **** { MOUSE_MODEL_GENERIC, 0xc0, MOUSE_PS2_PACKETSIZE, NULL, }, }; ! #define GENERIC_MOUSE_ENTRY 7 /* device driver declarateion */ static device_method_t psm_methods[] = { --- 300,306 ---- { MOUSE_MODEL_GENERIC, 0xc0, MOUSE_PS2_PACKETSIZE, NULL, }, }; ! #define GENERIC_MOUSE_ENTRY 11 /* device driver declarateion */ static device_method_t psm_methods[] = { *************** *** 560,565 **** --- 566,572 ---- { MOUSE_MODEL_EXPLORER, "IntelliMouse Explorer" }, { MOUSE_MODEL_4D, "4D Mouse" }, { MOUSE_MODEL_4DPLUS, "4D+ Mouse" }, + { MOUSE_MODEL_SYNAPTICS, "Synaptics PS/2 Touchpad in Relative Mode" }, { MOUSE_MODEL_GENERIC, "Generic PS/2 mouse" }, { MOUSE_MODEL_UNKNOWN, NULL }, }; *************** *** 1867,1872 **** --- 1874,1881 ---- MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN }; + static int syncerrs = 0; + static int synaptics_sync_hack_mode = 0; register struct psm_softc *sc = arg; mousestatus_t ms; int x, y, z; *************** *** 1881,1902 **** if ((sc->state & PSM_OPEN) == 0) continue; /* * Check sync bits. We check for overflow bits and the bit 3 * for most mice. True, the code doesn't work if overflow * condition occurs. But we expect it rarely happens... */ ! if ((sc->inputbytes == 0) ! && ((c & sc->mode.syncmask[0]) != sc->mode.syncmask[1])) { ! log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: out of sync (%04x != %04x).\n", c & sc->mode.syncmask[0], sc->mode.syncmask[1]); ! continue; } sc->ipacket[sc->inputbytes++] = c; ! if (sc->inputbytes < sc->mode.packetsize) continue; #if 0 log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x\n", sc->ipacket[0], sc->ipacket[1], sc->ipacket[2], --- 1890,1960 ---- if ((sc->state & PSM_OPEN) == 0) continue; + if (syncerrs>0) + { + log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: read %04x (mode %d).\n", c, synaptics_sync_hack_mode); + if (--syncerrs == 0) + log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: stopping logging reads\n");; + } + if (c==0 && sc->inputbytes == 0 && + sc->hw.model == MOUSE_MODEL_SYNAPTICS) + { + if (synaptics_sync_hack_mode) + { + synaptics_sync_hack_mode = 0; + log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: synaptics_sync_hack_mode 1->0\n"); + syncerrs = 10; /* log the next ten reads */ + } + continue; + } + /* * Check sync bits. We check for overflow bits and the bit 3 * for most mice. True, the code doesn't work if overflow * condition occurs. But we expect it rarely happens... */ ! ! ! if (sc->inputbytes == 0) ! { ! if (sc->hw.model == MOUSE_MODEL_SYNAPTICS) ! { ! if ((c&0xCC)!=0x08) ! { ! if (synaptics_sync_hack_mode ==0) ! { ! synaptics_sync_hack_mode = 1; ! log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: synaptics_sync_hack_mode 0->1\n"); ! syncerrs = 10; /* log next ten reads */ ! } ! log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: %04x out of sync.\n", c); ! continue; ! } ! } ! else if (((c & sc->mode.syncmask[0]) != sc->mode.syncmask[1])) { ! log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: out of sync (%04x != %04x).\n", c & sc->mode.syncmask[0], sc->mode.syncmask[1]); ! continue; ! } } sc->ipacket[sc->inputbytes++] = c; ! ! /* If synaptics_sync_hack_mode is one, we read an extra byte */ ! ! if (sc->inputbytes < (sc->mode.packetsize+synaptics_sync_hack_mode)) continue; + if (synaptics_sync_hack_mode == 1) + { + if (sc->ipacket[1]==0) + { + /* Drop the byte after the status byte from the packet */ + sc->ipacket[1] = sc->ipacket[2]; + sc->ipacket[2] = sc->ipacket[3]; + } + } + #if 0 log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x\n", sc->ipacket[0], sc->ipacket[1], sc->ipacket[2], *************** *** 2180,2185 **** --- 2238,2244 ---- } break; + case MOUSE_MODEL_SYNAPTICS: /* nothing special yet */ case MOUSE_MODEL_GENERIC: default: break; *************** *** 2642,2647 **** --- 2701,2763 ---- sc->config |= PSM_CONFIG_HOOKRESUME | PSM_CONFIG_INITAFTERSUSPEND; return TRUE; /* PS/2 absolute mode */ + } + + static int + synaptics_extended_command(KBDC kbdc, unsigned cmd, int data[3]) + { + set_mouse_resolution(kbdc, (cmd>>6)&0x3); + set_mouse_resolution(kbdc, (cmd>>4)&0x3); + set_mouse_resolution(kbdc, (cmd>>2)&0x3); + set_mouse_resolution(kbdc, (cmd>>0)&0x3); + return (get_mouse_status(kbdc, data, 0, 3) == 3) ? 0 : -1; + } + + static int + enable_synaptics(struct psm_softc *sc) + { + KBDC kbdc = sc->kbdc; + int data[3], minor = 0, major = 0; + + if (synaptics_extended_command(kbdc, 0, data) < 0) + return FALSE; + if (data[1] != 0x47) + return FALSE; + #if PSM_DEBUG >= 1 + major = data[2]&0xf; + minor = data[0]; + if (synaptics_extended_command(kbdc, 3, data) == 0) + { + static char *synaptic_pads[] = { + 0, + "TM41xx134 Standard", + "TM41xxx156 Mini", + "TM41xx180 Super", + 0, + 0, + 0, + "Flexible", + "TM41xx220 Ultra-Thin", + "TM41xx230 Wide", + 0, + "TM41xx240 Stamp", + "TM41xx140 Submini", + "TBD Multiswitch", + 0, + "TM41xx301 Advanced Technology", + "TM41xx221 Ultra-Thin" + }; + char *model = "(Unknown)"; + int m = data[0] & 0x3F; + if (m >= 0 && m <= 16 && synaptic_pads[m]) + model = synaptic_pads[m]; + printf("psm: Synaptics %s Touchpad v%d.%d\n", model, major, minor); + } + #else + (void)major; + (void)minor; + #endif + return TRUE; } static int --------------715AA62B84C7D3D2EAB84DD8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="psmintr" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="psmintr" static void psmintr(void *arg) { /* * the table to turn PS/2 mouse button bits (MOUSE_PS2_BUTTON?DOWN) * into `mousestatus' button bits (MOUSE_BUTTON?DOWN). */ static int butmap[8] = { 0, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON2DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON2DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON2DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON2DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN }; static int butmap_versapad[8] = { 0, MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, 0, MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN }; static int syncerrs = 0; static int synaptics_sync_hack_mode = 0; register struct psm_softc *sc = arg; mousestatus_t ms; int x, y, z; int c; int l; int x0, y0; /* read until there is nothing to read */ while((c = read_aux_data_no_wait(sc->kbdc)) != -1) { /* discard the byte if the device is not open */ if ((sc->state & PSM_OPEN) == 0) continue; if (syncerrs>0) { log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: read %04x (mode %d).\n", c, synaptics_sync_hack_mode); if (--syncerrs == 0) log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: stopping logging reads\n");; } if (c==0 && sc->inputbytes == 0 && sc->hw.model == MOUSE_MODEL_SYNAPTICS) { if (synaptics_sync_hack_mode) { synaptics_sync_hack_mode = 0; log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: synaptics_sync_hack_mode 1->0\n"); syncerrs = 10; /* log the next ten reads */ } continue; } /* * Check sync bits. We check for overflow bits and the bit 3 * for most mice. True, the code doesn't work if overflow * condition occurs. But we expect it rarely happens... */ if (sc->inputbytes == 0) { if (sc->hw.model == MOUSE_MODEL_SYNAPTICS) { if ((c&0xCC)!=0x08) { if (synaptics_sync_hack_mode ==0) { synaptics_sync_hack_mode = 1; log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: synaptics_sync_hack_mode 0->1\n"); syncerrs = 10; /* log next ten reads */ } log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: %04x out of sync.\n", c); continue; } } else if (((c & sc->mode.syncmask[0]) != sc->mode.syncmask[1])) { log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: out of sync (%04x != %04x).\n", c & sc->mode.syncmask[0], sc->mode.syncmask[1]); continue; } } sc->ipacket[sc->inputbytes++] = c; /* If synaptics_sync_hack_mode is one, we read an extra byte */ if (sc->inputbytes < (sc->mode.packetsize+synaptics_sync_hack_mode)) continue; if (synaptics_sync_hack_mode == 1) { if (sc->ipacket[1]==0) { /* Drop the byte after the status byte from the packet */ sc->ipacket[1] = sc->ipacket[2]; sc->ipacket[2] = sc->ipacket[3]; } } #if 0 log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x\n", sc->ipacket[0], sc->ipacket[1], sc->ipacket[2], sc->ipacket[3], sc->ipacket[4], sc->ipacket[5]); #endif c = sc->ipacket[0]; /* * A kludge for Kensington device! * The MSB of the horizontal count appears to be stored in * a strange place. --------------715AA62B84C7D3D2EAB84DD8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 1:31: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C8F37C245 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 01:31:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA49979; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 01:31:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: "Mark W. Krentel" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 disks In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Jul 2000 01:53:18 EDT." <200007050553.BAA02246@dreamscape.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 01:31:53 -0700 Message-ID: <49976.962872313@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is it decided yet what will be on the 4.1 disks? Is there room for > the distfiles, and is it still 4 disks? Sadly, there is no room for the distfiles anymore since even the packages, which are the #1 user requested items, are overflowing the 4 CDs. I may be able to fight and win a battle to go to 6 CDs, but that will only catch us up with packages and "various extra bits" again. Meanwhile, the distfiles have bloated up to around 3GB and only the FreeBSD toolkit can possibly accomodate even a good selection of them, so that's what we're doing now. If you want distfiles, buy the toolkit. If you want basic release bits and packages to go with them, buy the mainstream releases. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 1:34:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E443437B811 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 01:34:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA50037; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 01:35:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: chris@aims.com.au Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 disks In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:07:33 +1000." <002001bfe64f$b11484a0$020aa8c0@aims.private> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 01:35:01 -0700 Message-ID: <50034.962872501@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'd have to agree here. I went to install the CVS repository, only to find > that the last disk set containing this was 3.1. I then had to grab 18 months It's on the 3.5 CD set and will be on the 4.1 CD set. I'm doing the CVS repository bits again, albeit compressed (but better available than not). - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 2:21: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from carlton.innotts.co.uk (carlton.innotts.co.uk [212.56.32.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E537E37B7CE for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 02:20:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robmel@innotts.co.uk) Received: from muffin.highwire.local (pool-1-p7.innotts.co.uk [212.56.33.7]) by carlton.innotts.co.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e669Kfx07997; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:20:44 +0100 Received: from [172.16.17.20] (robsmac.highwire.local [172.16.17.20]) by muffin.highwire.local (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA45782; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:20:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from robmel@innotts.co.uk) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: robmel@wrcmail (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200007042203.PAA25510@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <200007042203.PAA25510@freeway.dcfinc.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:21:12 +0100 To: chad@DCFinc.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Robin Melville Subject: Re: VIA chip set Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 3:03 pm -0700 4/7/00, Chad R. Larson wrote: >There might not be enough time for this, but: > >The local Fry's Electronics is having a 4th of July one day sale. >Featured is a 700MHz AMD Athlon barebones system, including > > Boxed AMD K7 CPU > mid tower ATX case with 300w power supply > and, most important, an installed motherboard >[...] One per customer, $399. Today only. > This makes me curse. I just had a quote for the same MB/chip/128Mb memory only, unboxed, for UKP 525 -- that's $850 0f anybody's money. Time for US prices to come to Europe in my humble opinion... All the best. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin Melville, Information manager Addiction & Forensic Information Service Nottingham Healthcare NHS Tust Tel: +44 (0)115 952 9478 Fax: +44 (0)115 952 9421 email: robmel@nadt.org.uk Pages: http://www.nadt.org.uk/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 2:29:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-193-112-57.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.112.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E55737B7CE for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 02:29:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01043; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 02:36:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007060936.CAA01043@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dump takes ages on SCSI. (several times faster on IDE) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Jul 2000 19:16:30 +0200." <20000704191630.U5945@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 02:36:33 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 05:22 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > The Problem with aha1542 (ISA busmaster capable controller) > > > in PCI boards is that it is located "at the end" of a long > > > chain to memory. Chances are, busmastering will not work at > > > all behind the PCI to ISA bridge since all the PCI devices > > > have higher priority and the ISA gadget never gets any access > > > granted or at least always too late. You're better off with > > > a PCI controller. > > > > This is Just Not True. > > Can you please tell me more about it? I'm not sure of the > priority thing I mention above, but the fact that ISA busmaster > devices and PCI boards somewhat collide or counter operate > (sorry, lacking better words once more) is what I got from > serious papers here. Even this isn't the case. The critical issue is simply that the ISA busmaster has to operate correctly in the presence of other masters. The ISA bridge is responsible for translating the master operations from the ISA bus to the PCI bus. In your previous statement, you allude to "priority" wrt. PCI busmaster DMA - there is no such thing. As far as a busmaster device like the 1542 is concerned, there is no such thing as "too late" for DMA to/from memory. > How direct is the access method an ISA > controller has to the memory when sitting behind a bridge? I > would be glad to believe a 1542B/C in a PCI machine is A Good > Thing(TM). :) It's not a "good thing" - it's a slow controller behind two bridges, and it's not going to perform _well_, but modulo broken hardware it _will_ work correctly. You're quite correct when you say that you're better off with a PCI controller, however. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 3: 8: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from demos.su (mx.demos.su [194.87.0.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22C637B96A for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 03:08:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from katty@sinbin.demos.su) Received: from sinbin.demos.su ([194.87.5.31] verified) by demos.su (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 7537283 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:08:50 +0400 Received: by sinbin.demos.su id OAA71795; (8.6.12/D) Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:07:29 +0400 Received: by sinbin.demos.su id RAA12265; (8.6.12/D) Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:35:09 +0400 Message-Id: <200006261335.RAA12265@sinbin.demos.su> Subject: new nfs client problems with 4.0-S To: hackers@freebsd.ru Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:35:08 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alex G. Bulushev" Organization: Demos Internet X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG New problems with 4.0-S nfsv3 client (this problems not exist with 3.4-S) If file have write only permisson we can't append it properly, with read+write permissons all ok, this is serious error ... For demonstartion we use nfsserver and nfsclient mounted via nfsv3/udp: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 23 14:11:48 MSD 2000 /etc/exports: /mnt/test -maproot=0:0 nfsclient /etc/fstab: nfsserver:/mnt/test /mnt/test nfs rw,nfsv3,mntudp,intr,rdirplus > df Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted n /dev/da0s1a 2781278 1484240 1074536 58% / procfs 8 8 0 100% /proc nfsserver:/mnt/test 52227808 43258416 4791168 90% /mnt/test > For demonstration we create user: test > id uid=10101(test) gid=10101(test) groups=10101(test) > cd > pwd /usr/home/test > ls -al total 4 drwx------ 2 test wheel 512 Jun 26 16:47 . drwxr-xr-x 10 root wheel 512 Jun 26 14:55 .. lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24 Jun 26 16:25 nfs_link -> /mnt/test -----w---- 1 root test 0 Jun 26 16:46 nonfs_file > file: ~test/nonfs_file created on local filesystem, and file: ~test/nfs_link/nfs_file created on nfs when we append file on nfs we append succesfully only first record, and next records not apended : > cd ~test/nfs_link/ > ls -al total 16 drwx------ 2 test test 512 Jun 26 16:50 . dr-xr-xr-x 10 root olsites 512 Jun 26 16:30 .. -----w---- 1 root test 0 Jun 26 16:44 nfs_file > echo 000 >> nfs_file > ls -al total 24 drwx------ 2 test test 512 Jun 26 16:50 . dr-xr-xr-x 10 root olsites 512 Jun 26 16:30 .. -----w---- 1 root test 4 Jun 26 16:59 nfs_file > echo 111 >> nfs_file > ls -al total 24 drwx------ 2 test test 512 Jun 26 16:50 . dr-xr-xr-x 10 root olsites 512 Jun 26 16:30 .. -----w---- 1 root test 8 Jun 26 16:59 nfs_file > echo 222 >> nfs_file > ls -al total 24 drwx------ 2 test test 512 Jun 26 16:50 . dr-xr-xr-x 10 root olsites 512 Jun 26 16:30 .. -----w---- 1 root test 8 Jun 26 16:59 nfs_file > echo 333 >> nfs_file > ls -al total 24 drwx------ 2 test test 512 Jun 26 16:50 . dr-xr-xr-x 10 root olsites 512 Jun 26 16:30 .. -----w---- 1 root test 8 Jun 26 16:59 nfs_file > file contain only first record: # cat ~test/nfs_link/nfs_file 000 # and after reading we see new file size! > ls -al total 24 drwx------ 2 test test 512 Jun 26 16:50 . dr-xr-xr-x 10 root olsites 512 Jun 26 16:30 .. -----w---- 1 root test 4 Jun 26 16:59 nfs_file > with rw permissions no problems exists: > ls -al total 16 drwx------ 2 test test 512 Jun 26 16:50 . dr-xr-xr-x 10 root olsites 512 Jun 26 16:30 .. ----rw---- 1 root test 0 Jun 26 17:24 nfs_file > > echo 000 >> nfs_file > ls -al total 24 drwx------ 2 test test 512 Jun 26 16:50 . dr-xr-xr-x 10 root olsites 512 Jun 26 16:30 .. ----rw---- 1 root test 4 Jun 26 17:25 nfs_file > echo 111 >> nfs_file > ls -al total 24 drwx------ 2 test test 512 Jun 26 16:50 . dr-xr-xr-x 10 root olsites 512 Jun 26 16:30 .. ----rw---- 1 root test 8 Jun 26 17:25 nfs_file > echo 222 >> nfs_file > ls -al total 24 drwx------ 2 test test 512 Jun 26 16:50 . dr-xr-xr-x 10 root olsites 512 Jun 26 16:30 .. ----rw---- 1 root test 12 Jun 26 17:25 nfs_file > echo 333 >> nfs_file > ls -al total 24 drwx------ 2 test test 512 Jun 26 16:50 . dr-xr-xr-x 10 root olsites 512 Jun 26 16:30 .. ----rw---- 1 root test 16 Jun 26 17:26 nfs_file > # cat ~test/nfs_link/nfs_file 000 111 222 333 # without nfs no problems exists: > echo 000 >> nonfs_file > ls -al total 6 drwx------ 2 test wheel 512 Jun 26 16:47 . drwxr-xr-x 10 root wheel 512 Jun 26 14:55 .. lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24 Jun 26 16:25 nfs_link -> /mnt/pub/root/roots/tet -----w---- 1 root test 4 Jun 26 16:51 nonfs_file > echo 111 >> nonfs_file > ls -al total 6 drwx------ 2 test wheel 512 Jun 26 16:47 . drwxr-xr-x 10 root wheel 512 Jun 26 14:55 .. lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24 Jun 26 16:25 nfs_link -> /mnt/pub/root/roots/tet -----w---- 1 root test 8 Jun 26 16:51 nonfs_file > echo 222 >> nonfs_file > ls -al total 6 drwx------ 2 test wheel 512 Jun 26 16:47 . drwxr-xr-x 10 root wheel 512 Jun 26 14:55 .. lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24 Jun 26 16:25 nfs_link -> /mnt/pub/root/roots/tet -----w---- 1 root test 12 Jun 26 16:51 nonfs_file > # cat ~test/nonfs_file 000 111 222 # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 4: 7:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.vnet.net (smtp2.vnet.net [166.82.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3359E37C24D for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 04:07:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e66B7II08470; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:07:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27716; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:07:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id HAA52316; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:07:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:07:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <200007061107.HAA52316@lakes.dignus.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: 3.5 CD set (was: Re: 4.1 disks) Cc: jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com In-Reply-To: <50034.962872501@localhost> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > I'd have to agree here. I went to install the CVS repository, only to find > > that the last disk set containing this was 3.1. I then had to grab 18 months > > It's on the 3.5 CD set and will be on the 4.1 CD set. I'm doing the > CVS repository bits again, albeit compressed (but better available > than not). > > - Jordan > I didn't know there was going to be a 3.5 CD set. If I understand things - subscribers will *not* automatically receive this CD set... can the 3.5 CD set be ordered from Walnut Creek, err... um... BSDI? - Dave Rivers - -- rivers@dignus.com Work: (919) 676-0847 Get your mainframe (370) `C' compiler at http://www.dignus.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 4:24: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cip1.melaten.rwth-aachen.de (cip1.melaten.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.92.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2C037B9A9; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 04:23:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tg@melaten.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from cip12.melaten.rwth-aachen.de (cip12.melaten.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.92.12]) by cip1.melaten.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28506; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:27:13 +0200 Received: (from tg@localhost) by cip12.melaten.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA39907; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:36:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tg@melaten.rwth-aachen.de) X-Authentication-Warning: cip12.melaten.rwth-aachen.de: tg set sender to tg@melaten.rwth-aachen.de using -f To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now From: Thomas Gellekum Date: 06 Jul 2000 13:36:50 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0805 (Gnus v5.8.5) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Moin, sorry for the late notice, I forgot to mail this yesterday. /etc/rc.shutdown in -current has been changed to call the scripts in ${local_startup} with the `stop' option. This allows packages like databases to call their own shutdown methods and clean up after themselves. All the ports have been changed accordingly. If you still have old startup scripts lying around in /usr/{local,X11R6}/etc/rc.d you should upgrade these ASAP. Basically, the new scripts look like this: ,---- | case "$1" in | start) | # startup code here | ;; | stop) | # shutdown code here | ;; | *) | echo "Usage: `basename $0` {start|stop}" >&2 | exit 64 | ;; | esac | exit 0 `---- -stable users: I intend to merge and activate this change shortly before the code freeze for the 4.1 release, which is July 20th, if I'm not mistaken. tg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 5:37: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.polytechnic.edu.na (mail.polytechnic.edu.na [196.31.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4B137B6EF for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 05:36:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@polytechnic.edu.na) Received: from ns1.horizon.na ([196.31.225.199] helo=polytechnic.edu.na) by mail.polytechnic.edu.na with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 13ACjc-0002hE-00; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 12:34:36 -0200 Message-ID: <39647CE2.C1D11DD5@polytechnic.edu.na> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 13:34:42 +0100 From: Tim Priebe Reply-To: tim@iafrica.com.na X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: tim@iafrica.com.na, David Gilbert , Kevin Oberman , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? References: <200007060640.IAA82096@info.iet.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > > just curious, what do we do when we have multiple encapsulation ? > > > (i.e. is this allowed ?) > .. > > I am not sure what you mean. If you mean "VLAN encapsulation", then it > > is a misunderstanding. The standard Ethernet frame is not encapsulated. > > ok think of the following: I have a st machine which goes through > a VLAN bridge out to a trunk interface, which in turn goes into > a VLAN bridge which does trunkinking again ... basically you might > end up with frames being encapsulated multiple times (and decapsulated > on the reverse path). Now i wonder if this is allowed by the vlan spec An Ethernet frame with vlan tagging does _not_ have an extra header etc, that encapsulates the the original frame. When a Frame that was not tagged is tagged by a bridge, the original header is removed, the information from the original header is used to create a new header, with the vlan tag. The new header and the data from the original frame are used to create a new frame. When a tagged packet must be sent out ports that are not tagged for that vlan, the reverse process occures. The tagged header is removed, and replaced with a new one. Obviously new CRC values are generated each time the header is replaced. If the the frame has a vlan tag, and is to be sent out an interface that it needs to be tagged on, then it does not need any modification, as stated it is already has the vlan tag. If the switch does some thing strange, like using different vlan tag values for the same vlan on different interfaces, then it would have to change the tag value, and recalculate the CRC. This is too complex a solution, when the standard specifies that you can have 4095 vlans (if my memory serves me correctly). > and also how does a vlan bridge behaves when it sees a vlan-tagged > frame on a non-trunk port. This probably depends on the switch. The 3Com 1100 and 3300 can be set to learn what vlans can be sent out a port based on the vlans it sees coming in through that port. > I do know how my FreeBSD-based > vlan bridge behaves -- it does multiple encaps, but then if a > packet becomes too large it is silently dropped by the interface. If it encapsulates the the original frame including the original headers in a new ethernet frame, then it is doing it wrong, and can not be expected to interoperate with a bridge that does it right. Your frames will be able to pass through a standard bridge, but it will not be able to restore the original frame that your system has encapsulated. Everything I say above presuposes we are talking about 802.1Q, and not some vendor specific vlan implementation. Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 5:42:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8B337C2D8 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 05:42:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA76891 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:42:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:42:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Cant build 3.5-stable? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to build 3.5-stable on a 3.4-stable system of about two months old. /usr/src/UPDATING is empty. Can anyone throw a clue or patch my way? cc -fpic -DPIC -nostdinc -O -pipe -DIEEE_drem -DNON_ANSI_RW_MODES -DNON_UNIX_STDIO -DPedantic -I/usr/src/lib/libf2c/../../usr.bin/f2c -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libf2c/../libI77/xwsne.c -o xwsne.So building shared library libf2c.so.2 ===> libfetch compile_et /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.et cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -Wall -pedantic -DNDEBUG -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c -o fetch.o In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: fetch_err.h:6: com_right.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: fetch_err.h:8: warning: `struct et_list' declared inside parameter list fetch_err.h:8: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, fetch_err.h:8: warning: which is probably not what you want. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. exit Script done, output file is bw2.log turtle.looksharp.net:/usr/src# cvsup -g /root/stable-supfile Connected to cvsup5.FreeBSD.org Updating collection src-all/cvs Finished successfully turtle.looksharp.net:/usr/src# Its not old headers in /usr/include.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 5:47:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE96C37B6EF for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 05:47:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A562137F05; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:47:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA51047; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:47:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14692.32743.852986.408436@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:47:35 -0400 (EDT) To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: tim@iafrica.com.na, David Gilbert , Kevin Oberman , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? In-Reply-To: <200007060640.IAA82096@info.iet.unipi.it> References: <396368C9.C3C5A50F@polytechnic.edu.na> <200007060640.IAA82096@info.iet.unipi.it> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Luigi" == Luigi Rizzo writes: Luigi> ok think of the following: I have a st machine which goes Luigi> through a VLAN bridge out to a trunk interface, which in turn Luigi> goes into a VLAN bridge which does trunkinking again Luigi> ... basically you might end up with frames being encapsulated Luigi> multiple times (and decapsulated on the reverse path). Now i Luigi> wonder if this is allowed by the vlan spec and also how does a Luigi> vlan bridge behaves when it sees a vlan-tagged frame on a Luigi> non-trunk port. I do know how my FreeBSD-based vlan bridge Luigi> behaves -- it does multiple encaps, but then if a packet Luigi> becomes too large it is silently dropped by the interface. Naw... that's not how you'd configure it. Lets say we have this: ---------- ---------- ---------- --------- | A |--------| B |--------| C |---------| D | ---------- ---------- ---------- --------- Now... if a packet leaves A on vlan 57, it will arrive at B marked with vlan 57. If the BC link is the "same" trunk, the packet might continue on vlan 57. Now if the CD link is a different "trunk" (and this is just an organizational issue), then the packet might be rewritten to have vlan 225 on it --- and would make that leg of the journey with vlan 225. to reverse the path, D would send a packet on vlan 225 to C, which would rewrite the packet to have vlan 57 and it would pass through B unchanged to A. Basically, I suppose you could "encapsulate" a vlan packet, but in practice, you don't. In practice the vlan tags are shared only between a pair of devices ... although you can administratively make them the same over several segments (but you don't have to). As a side issue, what's really cool in the netgraph scheme of things is that if ethernet interfaces are netgraph nodes, then it makes sense that hooks on the ethernet interfaces are vlan interfaces (among other hooks). This means, for instance, that if you attach a net"graph" to the ethernet nodes vlan-233 hook, packets will flow in and out vlan-233 on that link. This also means that your FreeBSD box could perform the function of a vlan switch by simply attaching the vlan-57 hook of one interface to the vlan-225 of another, the FreeBSD box would perform like box C above. (This, of course, leads to the ideal extension that I have expoused before where jail(8) gets a netgraph node rather than an IP address as it's network interface. The possibilites simply explode ... not the least of which being able to encapsulate the jail(8)'s traffic in a vlan and/or having multiple addresses (or even multiple protocols) available in the vlan). In short, vlan tags are not like GRE (which might be the confusion) ... they are simply part of the ethernet header. Can anyone tell me what cards do and what cards don't support larger packets ... or is it largely our interface code that's dropping "long" frames? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 5:52:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com [155.208.254.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770BE37B61D for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 05:51:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com) Received: from hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (hpcpbla.bri.hp.com [15.144.112.65]) by bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346FBF223; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:51:56 +0200 (METDST) Received: from sse0691.bri.hp.com (sse0691.bri.hp.com [15.144.0.53]) by hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id NAA26288; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:51:53 +0100 (BST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by sse0691.bri.hp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02086; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:54:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:54:12 +0100 From: Steve Roome To: Robin Melville Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VIA chip set Message-ID: <20000706135412.B1802@moose.bri.hp.com> References: <200007042203.PAA25510@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from robmel@innotts.co.uk on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 10:21:12AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 10:21:12AM +0100, Robin Melville wrote: > At 3:03 pm -0700 4/7/00, Chad R. Larson wrote: > >There might not be enough time for this, but: > > > >The local Fry's Electronics is having a 4th of July one day sale. > >Featured is a 700MHz AMD Athlon barebones system, including > > > > Boxed AMD K7 CPU > > mid tower ATX case with 300w power supply > > and, most important, an installed motherboard > >[...] One per customer, $399. Today only. > > > > This makes me curse. I just had a quote for the same MB/chip/128Mb > memory only, unboxed, for UKP 525 -- that's $850 0f anybody's money. > Time for US prices to come to Europe in my humble opinion... > > All the best. Picking up any old magainze [insight] I see (not incl. VAT) : K7-700 : £119 Mobo : £111 [an equivalentish motherboard (they don't do FIC SD11's =( )] case/psu : £50 [only a 250W PSU ?!] TOTAL : £280 including VAT takes this up to £330... At current exchange rates this is $498... straight out of a plainish magazine, the UK price is only $96 more than Fry's offer. Not really worth complaining about is it ? And to be fair, I bought my case for £40 with a 300W PSU in it, so I've no idea why these ppl (Insight) charge a tenner more for less ? [Memory can be bought from anywhere (crucial.com/uk) for £93. or about £100 with VAT, but I don't see memory listed on that deal above.] Anyway, this isn't very FreeBSD related, so I'll happily that the the FIC SD11 I've got has been running fine with FreeBSD-4.0 lately. I would recommend flashing to a newer BIOS though, as otherwise the SD11's freeze up on >32GB IDE drives. Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 6:36:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apoq.skynet.be (apoq.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C87D37BC10 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 06:36:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by apoq.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4D51F381; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:36:11 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:30:56 +0200 To: Adam , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 8:42 AM -0400 2000/7/6, Adam wrote: > I am trying to build 3.5-stable on a 3.4-stable system of about two > months old. /usr/src/UPDATING is empty. Can anyone throw a clue or patch > my way? You're running into the same "fetch" problem that I reported on Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:41:55 +0200. I still haven't heard anything, either. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 7: 2:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skaarup.org (skaarup.org [130.228.230.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E8837B57F for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:02:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasmus@gal.dk) Received: from localhost (skaarup@localhost) by skaarup.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA75824; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:02:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rasmus@gal.dk) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:02:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Rasmus Skaarup X-Sender: skaarup@skaarup.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: Brad Knowles , Adam Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > At 8:42 AM -0400 2000/7/6, Adam wrote: > > > I am trying to build 3.5-stable on a 3.4-stable system of about two > > months old. /usr/src/UPDATING is empty. Can anyone throw a clue or > > patch my way? > > You're running into the same "fetch" problem that I reported on > Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:41:55 +0200. I still haven't heard anything, > either. Neither have I. Best regards Rasmus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 7:31:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law-f228.hotmail.com [209.185.130.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78B7A37B6FF for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:31:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randywaterhouse@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 28487 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jul 2000 14:31:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20000706143120.28486.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.4.254.203 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 07:31:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [24.4.254.203] From: "Randy Waterhouse" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Can't build PICOBSD under 4.0-STABLE Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:31:20 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I updated from 4.0-RELEASE to 4.0-STABLE yesterday and can no longer build the "net" configuration of PICOBSD: PicoBSD build -- Current parameters: 1. Type: net 2. MFS size: 2200 kB 3. Language: en 4. Site-info: -> We'll use the sources living in /usr/src -> I hope you have checked the ../net/PICOBSD config file... -> Preparing kernel... kernel: 50.8% -- replaced with kernel.gz -> Preparing MFS filesystem... Warning: 3792 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rvn0c: 4400 sectors in 2 cylinders of 1 tracks, 4096 sectors 2.1MB in 1 cyl groups (16 c/g, 32.00MB/g, 576 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 32 -> Populating MFS tree... -> Making and installing crunch1... crunchgen: ./crunch1.conf: more: warning: could not find any .o files crunchgen: ./crunch1.conf: more: error: no objpaths specified or calculated crunchgen: ./crunch1.conf: more: ignoring program because of errors Run "make -f crunch1.mk objs exe" to build crunched binary. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release/picobsd/net/crunch1. --> Error 1 code crunch Error while building ../net/crunch1... -> Aborting ./stage1 Does anyone have any suggestions? RW ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 7:44:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.veriohosting.com (gatekeeper.veriohosting.com [192.41.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C2837C3A8 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:44:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fred@veriohosting.com) Received: by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:44:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown(192.168.1.7) by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma011213; Thu, 6 Jul 00 08:44:10 -0600 Received: from vespa.orem.iserver.com (vespa.orem.iserver.com [192.168.1.144]) by orca.orem.veriohosting.com [Verio Web Hosting, Inc. 801.437.0200] (8.8.8) id IAA21083; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:44:04 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:51:32 -0600 (MDT) From: Fred Clift X-Sender: fred@vespa.orem.iserver.com To: "Dan O'Connor" Cc: Andrew Johns , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: securing the boot process (again?!?) In-Reply-To: <0d8b01bfe56a$0c01c580$0200000a@danco> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Dan O'Connor wrote: > >> Doesn't your computer have a BIOS password? These are typically invoked > >> *before* the BIOS tries to boot off any disk... > > > Looks like there's not really much you can do if you can't physically secure > the machine. > > Even all the other tricks, boot only from hard drive, setting the delay to > '0', are pointless if someone can get inside the hardware case, change > jumpers, get into the BIOS and turn on boot from floppy and then boot from a > floppy. On the other hand, if someone has the opportunity to do all that, > they might as well just steal the whole box... > What would be cool is a crypted filesystem that requires an activation key at boot time by a real person, a smart card, etc at the boot loader. Then, your data would be somewhat secure from even soemone who could boot a floppy. The boot loader would come up and ask you for the crypt-key for the filesystem and you'd have to enter it somehow before anything could boot at all. Of course, the first thing I'd do to subvert this is to boot my own floppy and install a trojaned logging bootloader that then callse the real one or emulates the real one. I come back later and now have the filesystem crypt-key. This also has the side-defect of making a person with knowlege of the key, or with the right smart-card or whatever to be present at each boot. My box however has been up for weeks now so, shrug. This might be useful for someone very paranoid about the FBI breaking down their door and getting access to their data. Note that I'm _NOT_ one of those people -- sigh I dont even run a real OS at home -- yes there are some valid reasons, but dont start a discussion about it and make me defend what I consider crappy software. Fred -- Fred Clift - fred@veriohosting.com -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 8: 3:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FE937C383 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:03:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA51255; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com Subject: Re: 3.5 CD set (was: Re: 4.1 disks) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Jul 2000 07:07:16 EDT." <200007061107.HAA52316@lakes.dignus.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 08:03:54 -0700 Message-ID: <51252.962895834@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I didn't know there was going to be a 3.5 CD set. I announced it here several times. :) > If I understand things - subscribers will *not* automatically receive > this CD set... can the 3.5 CD set be ordered from Walnut Creek, > err... um... BSDI? Correct. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 8: 7:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.polytechnic.edu.na (mail.polytechnic.edu.na [196.31.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DD937B538 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:06:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@polytechnic.edu.na) Received: from ns1.horizon.na ([196.31.225.199] helo=polytechnic.edu.na) by mail.polytechnic.edu.na with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 13AF4W-0001Ri-00; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:04:20 -0200 Message-ID: <39649FFA.639EB883@polytechnic.edu.na> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 16:04:26 +0100 From: Tim Priebe Reply-To: tim@iafrica.com.na X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Gilbert Cc: Luigi Rizzo , tim@iafrica.com.na, Kevin Oberman , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? References: <396368C9.C3C5A50F@polytechnic.edu.na> <200007060640.IAA82096@info.iet.unipi.it> <14692.32743.852986.408436@trooper.velocet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Gilbert wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what cards do and what cards don't support larger > packets ... or is it largely our interface code that's dropping "long" > frames? I am routing 1500 byte IP packets between vlans on xl interfaces after modifying the driver. It is the only card I have tried. At the time I was not able to attach a vlan interface to a fxp device at that time, so I did not try on it. Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 8:14:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lorax.ubergeeks.com (lorax.ubergeeks.com [209.145.74.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C466637B9B0 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:14:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@ubergeeks.com) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by lorax.ubergeeks.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21271; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:13:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from adrian@ubergeeks.com) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:13:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Adrian Filipi-Martin Reply-To: Adrian Filipi-Martin To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: "Mark W. Krentel" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 disks In-Reply-To: <49976.962872313@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Is it decided yet what will be on the 4.1 disks? Is there room for > > the distfiles, and is it still 4 disks? > > Sadly, there is no room for the distfiles anymore since even the > packages, which are the #1 user requested items, are overflowing the 4 > CDs. I may be able to fight and win a battle to go to 6 CDs, but > that will only catch us up with packages and "various extra bits" > again. Meanwhile, the distfiles have bloated up to around 3GB > and only the FreeBSD toolkit can possibly accomodate even a good > selection of them, so that's what we're doing now. If you want > distfiles, buy the toolkit. If you want basic release bits and > packages to go with them, buy the mainstream releases. > > - Jordan I don't know if growing the CD set to 6 CD's will really make more people happier. Maybe splitting the packages and distfiles into a add-on set similar to the toolkit would work better. Then 2 or 6 CD sets could be made available with the ports/package CD's updated more frequently if necessary. From my perspective, i.e. from a well connected network, only the first two CD's are useful. The first thing I do is set up cvsup and bring down the latest ports. I'd be just as happy buying a 2 CD set, even if the price was the same or only marginally lower. i.e. It is actually worth something to me to not get the extra CD's. (I'm a closet Green Party member. ;-) Adrian -- [ adrian@ubergeeks.com -- Ubergeeks Consulting -- http://www.ubergeeks.com/ ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 8:23:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBA837B9B0; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:23:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA29020; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:23:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:23:10 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Thomas Gellekum Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now Message-ID: <20000706102309.D20588@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.4i In-Reply-To: ; from "Thomas Gellekum" on Thu Jul 6 13:36:50 GMT 2000 X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Jul 06), Thomas Gellekum said: > sorry for the late notice, I forgot to mail this yesterday. > > /etc/rc.shutdown in -current has been changed to call the scripts in > ${local_startup} with the `stop' option. This allows packages like > databases to call their own shutdown methods and clean up after > themselves. All the ports have been changed accordingly. If you still > have old startup scripts lying around in /usr/{local,X11R6}/etc/rc.d > you should upgrade these ASAP. Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) j/k -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 8:29:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47AF437BAAA for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:29:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA85343; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:29:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200007061529.RAA85343@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? In-Reply-To: <14692.32743.852986.408436@trooper.velocet.net> from David Gilbert at "Jul 6, 2000 08:47:35 am" To: David Gilbert Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:29:14 +0200 (CEST) Cc: tim@iafrica.com.na, Kevin Oberman , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Naw... that's not how you'd configure it. Lets say we have this: > > ---------- ---------- ---------- --------- > | A |--------| B |--------| C |---------| D | > ---------- ---------- ---------- --------- > > Now... if a packet leaves A on vlan 57, it will arrive at B marked > with vlan 57. If the BC link is the "same" trunk, the packet might > continue on vlan 57. Now if the CD link is a different "trunk" (and > this is just an organizational issue), then the packet might be > rewritten to have vlan 225 on it --- and would make that leg of the > journey with vlan 225. hmm... my understanding was (but i might be wrong) that _normally_ end hosts do not tag packets, the tag insertion/removal (this is what i meant by encapsulation/decapsulation in my previous email) is done by the VLAN bridge when such packets go through a trunk interface (i.e. the link connected to that interface supports traffic for multiple independent VLANs). My point is that you don't know what happens to the traffic on that link -- your network admin could decide to further aggregate such traffic by forwarding it into a "normal" port of another VLAN bridge, which then does the tagging again. Agreed, this is not how you'd configure it, but as you say > ........................ The possibilites simply explode ... not the > In short, vlan tags are not like GRE (which might be the confusion) > ... they are simply part of the ethernet header. not fully sure about that. How could you possibly prevent a frame from being untagged multiple times if the frame has an appropriate bit pattern ? cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) Mobile +39-347-0373137 -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 8:30:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown2-2-178.adsl.one.net [216.23.15.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5CD37BCD1 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:30:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17434; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:38:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:38:18 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: Mike Harding , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000706113818.A17417@cokane.yi.org> References: <14690.56083.871132.718345@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br> <14690.56083.871132.718345@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br> <20000705123740.05979E6EF7@netcom1.netcom.com> <4.3.2.20000705202256.00ba04d0@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000705202256.00ba04d0@207.227.119.2>; from jeff-ml@mountin.net on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 09:35:57PM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG But I thought the P!!! really did make the internet come alive. :) Jeffrey J. Mountin had the audacity to say: > At 05:37 AM 7/5/00 -0700, Mike Harding wrote: > > >Yeah, but does AMD have disco-dancing clean-room technicians and > >animated sock monkeys? Does AMD "improve your internet experience" > >with "brighter colors?" > > The past 2 years Intel has been terrible with the BS it pushes on the > mostly ignorant consumer. Have been rooting for AMD since the K7/Athalon > was in design. Intel's recent problems and refusal of supporting PC133 and > DDRSDRAM to push (or should I say ram) RAMBUS on everyone.. No need to > rant, but AMD has come a long way. My next personal system will be a dual > AMD. The capability is due later this year. With their greatly improved > production capacity Intel best look out, since they will then be able to > start in on the mid-range server market. > > They only question then is SMP support for AMD system. > > >Sorry about the OT, but these ads have bugged me for years. :) > > Intel's policies have PO'd me for ages now, so pardon my OT rant. > > Intel Inside^H^H^H^H^H^HElsewhere. > > > Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net > Systems/Network Administrator > FreeBSD - the power to serve > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 8:32:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magpage.com (trinity.magpage.com [216.155.0.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325FA37C484 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:32:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfrazier@magpage.com) Received: from magpage.com (poomba.magpage.com [216.155.24.136]) by magpage.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12532 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:32:03 GMT Message-ID: <3964A770.7A607253@magpage.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 11:36:16 -0400 From: Daniel Frazier Organization: Magpage Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Adam wrote: > > I am trying to build 3.5-stable on a 3.4-stable system of about two > months old. /usr/src/UPDATING is empty. Can anyone throw a clue or patch > my way? > Sorry Adam, can't help you. CVSupped last night. make buildworld is dying for me at exactly the same point. I hope this gets fixed soon. ===> libfetch compile_et /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.et cc -O -pipe -I. -Wall -pedantic -DNDEBUG -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c -o fetch.o In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: fetch_err.h:6: com_right.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: fetch_err.h:8: warning: `struct et_list' declared inside parameter list fetch_err.h:8: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, fetch_err.h:8: warning: which is probably not what you want. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Frazier Tel: 302-239-5900 Ext. 231 System Administrator Fax: 302-239-3909 MAGPAGE, We Power the Internet WWW: http://www.magpage.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 8:36:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (csmd2.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De [141.44.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0928B37B536 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:36:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesse@mail.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De) Received: from knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (jesse@knecht [141.44.21.3]) by csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29352 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:36:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from jesse@localhost) by knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id RAA19787; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:36:11 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de: jesse set sender to jesse@cs.uni-magdeburg.de using -f To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now References: From: Roland Jesse In-Reply-To: Thomas Gellekum's message of "06 Jul 2000 13:36:50 +0200" Date: 06 Jul 2000 17:36:11 +0200 Message-ID: <0vlmzf46fo.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas Gellekum writes: > | exit 64 Is this return code 64 on intention or would everything else besides 0 be ok too? Roland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 8:37:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C3337C3DC for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:37:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA85384; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:37:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200007061537.RAA85384@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? In-Reply-To: <39647CE2.C1D11DD5@polytechnic.edu.na> from Tim Priebe at "Jul 6, 2000 01:34:42 pm" To: tim@iafrica.com.na Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:37:29 +0200 (CEST) Cc: David Gilbert , Kevin Oberman , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > An Ethernet frame with vlan tagging does _not_ have an extra header etc, however you see it, it's the original bits plus some extra bits! > When a tagged packet must be sent out ports that are not tagged for that > vlan, the reverse process occures. The tagged header is removed, and > replaced with a new one. Obviously new CRC values are generated each i am not sure about this one: my understandinbg reading the spec (18months ago) was that tagged packets only go out on trunk interfaces (unmodified) or on interfaces tagged for that VLAN (this time they are untagged). > If the switch does some thing strange, like using different vlan tag > values for the same vlan on different interfaces, then it would have to > change the tag value, and recalculate the CRC. This is too complex a Why are you so worried by the CRC, which is compuited on the fly by the interface as bits are sent on the wire ? > > I do know how my FreeBSD-based > > vlan bridge behaves -- it does multiple encaps, but then if a > > packet becomes too large it is silently dropped by the interface. > > If it encapsulates the the original frame including the original headers > in a new ethernet frame, then it is doing it wrong, and can not be > expected to interoperate with a bridge that does it right. Your frames sorry i used the wrong terminology -- i said "encapsulate/decapsulate" but meant "tag/untag" -- and it did interoperate with a real VLAN bridge (802.1Q) cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) Mobile +39-347-0373137 -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 8:42:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dcnv.com (mail.dcnv.com [216.33.117.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105C337C3D0; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:42:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Received: from digitalconvergence.com (dallas [207.158.100.67]) by mail.dcnv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA73627; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:41:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Message-ID: <3964A8E5.D7F4B8E4@digitalconvergence.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:42:29 -0500 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Saab Cc: Bill Fumerola , John Baldwin , ps@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable (continued) References: <20000705170516.L4034@jade.chc-chimes.com> <3963A776.8AB99AC7@digitalconvergence.com> <3963B7D7.1DC5F5C5@FreeBSD.org> <3963D07D.4D13B9B9@digitalconvergence.com> <20000705172602.A26402@elvis.mu.org> <3963D601.46A51C0A@digitalconvergence.com> <20000705204441.T4034@jade.chc-chimes.com> <20000705180621.B26935@elvis.mu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I did find one other problem in the pxe stuff. I'm using ISC's dhcpd to manage the network. The pxe client is having trouble with the option root-path "/client/root" statement. DHCPD sends it to the pxe client fine (tcpdump), but pxeboot prints root path * (actually a diamond - control D char) On the nfs server, I see a failed attempt to mount "/*" (where * is a diamond - control D). So, there appears to be some kind of problem passing parameters between the various boot stages. If you don't specify a root-path in the dhcpd.conf, everything's fine. It's not a show stopper, but it should be investigated/fixed. What can I do to help find the problem? Thanks, -- Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology DigitalConvergence.:Com aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com Phone: +1-214-292-6040 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 8:48:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3DD37C41E; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:47:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Received: from localhost (lplist@localhost) by q.closedsrc.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e66FlIt74978; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:47:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:47:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Dan Nelson Cc: Thomas Gellekum , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-Reply-To: <20000706102309.D20588@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In the last episode (Jul 06), Thomas Gellekum said: > > sorry for the late notice, I forgot to mail this yesterday. > > > > /etc/rc.shutdown in -current has been changed to call the scripts in > > ${local_startup} with the `stop' option. This allows packages like > > databases to call their own shutdown methods and clean up after > > themselves. All the ports have been changed accordingly. If you still > > have old startup scripts lying around in /usr/{local,X11R6}/etc/rc.d > > you should upgrade these ASAP. > > Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) > > j/k I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in that direction. > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@emsphone.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 8:49:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.clarkson.edu (mail.clarkson.edu [128.153.4.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B98C37C4A3 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:49:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tuinstra@clarkson.edu) Received: (qmail 10087 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jul 2000 15:49:14 -0000 Received: from sc-1-18-1.sc.clarkson.edu (HELO clarkson.edu) (128.153.23.148) by mail.clarkson.edu with SMTP; 6 Jul 2000 15:49:14 -0000 Message-ID: <3964AA7A.7D632BC3@clarkson.edu> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 11:49:14 -0400 From: Dwight Tuinstra X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: VIA chip set References: <200007052211.PAA29251@freeway.dcfinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Chad R. Larson" wrote: > > Anyone veto the FIC MoBo? > I can't comment on the SD11 motherboard, but I can tell you I've had trouble with the FIC PA-2013. It generates hardware errors (10 and 11) when attempting to make world while using default (or even conservative) BIOS settings. The power supply was from PC Power & Cooling, so no problem there. The only way I could get through an entire buildworld was to turn off every go-fast option I could in the BIOS, including the L2 cache. I was able to get away with turning back on the RAM banking, but that was it. Feh. I won't be buying any more FICs if I can help it. On a second PA-2013 I bought, I can turn on a few more go-fast options, but it's still mighty conservative. --Dwight Tuinstra tuinstra@clarkson.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 8:59:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCD637C40F for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:59:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simond@bumper.jellybaby.net) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA14438; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:59:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from simond) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:59:14 +0100 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: Dwight Tuinstra Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIA chip set Message-ID: <20000706165913.B74206@irrelevant.org> References: <200007052211.PAA29251@freeway.dcfinc.com> <3964AA7A.7D632BC3@clarkson.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3964AA7A.7D632BC3@clarkson.edu>; from tuinstra@clarkson.edu on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:49:14AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:49:14AM -0400, Dwight Tuinstra wrote: > "Chad R. Larson" wrote: > > > > Anyone veto the FIC MoBo? > > > > I can't comment on the SD11 motherboard, but I can > tell you I've had trouble with the FIC PA-2013. It > generates hardware errors (10 and 11) when attempting > to make world while using default (or even conservative) > BIOS settings. The power supply was from PC Power & > Cooling, so no problem there. The only way I could get > through an entire buildworld was to turn off every > go-fast option I could in the BIOS, including the L2 > cache. I was able to get away with turning back on the > RAM banking, but that was it. Feh. I won't be buying > any more FICs if I can help it. > > On a second PA-2013 I bought, I can turn on a few more > go-fast options, but it's still mighty conservative. Sorry to disagree, but I have exactly the same motherboard and the only problems I've had with it were windows related, mainly the bios detecting a UDMA/66 drive on it's IDE channels which causes windows to hang on startup and which was fixed by a bios update, and also I had random crashes under windows when the mem speeds were set to turbo, I turned it down and even Windows is now happy, no crashes from FreeBSD at all (apart from me not being able to get 4.0-RELEASE to install on the ATA66 drive which was prob due to the bios problem too. -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:14:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3322D37C410 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:13:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA78566; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:13:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:13:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Daniel Frazier Cc: des@flood.ping.uio.no, FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? In-Reply-To: <3964A770.7A607253@magpage.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Daniel Frazier wrote: >Adam wrote: >> >> I am trying to build 3.5-stable on a 3.4-stable system of about two >> months old. /usr/src/UPDATING is empty. Can anyone throw a clue or patch >> my way? >> > >Sorry Adam, can't help you. CVSupped last night. make buildworld is dying >for me at exactly the same point. I hope this gets fixed soon. > >===> libfetch >compile_et /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.et fetch_err.et has been removed from RELENG_4 as the result of an MFC done by Dag-Erling Smorgrav. In order to fix the build one must, at this point maintain the obsolete libfetch code in RELENG_3. It's probably smarter just to merge down the diffs from RELENG_4 or HEAD to RELENG_3. Perhaps Dag can do this and fix the RELENG_3 build for those of you trying to keep systems on that track. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:16:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2066637C4B5; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:16:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (dscheidt@shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA98325; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:16:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:16:05 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt To: Linh Pham Cc: Dan Nelson , Thomas Gellekum , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: :> :> Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) :> :> j/k : :I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in :that direction. HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be because I have boxes that take almost an hour to boot.... David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:23:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AD037C47A; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:23:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Received: from localhost (lplist@localhost) by q.closedsrc.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e66GMZD75109; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:22:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:22:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: David Scheidt Cc: Dan Nelson , Thomas Gellekum , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, David Scheidt wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > > :> > :> Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) > :> > :> j/k > : > :I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in > :that direction. > > > HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be > because I have boxes that take almost an hour to boot.... An hour to boot? Boy... the only time I ever saw a machine take an hour to boot (which does not include the POST/memory check/BIOS screen) was a 486SX/33 with 24MB of RAM running Windows NT 3.51 SP3. Of course it was running off of a 5 1/4" 400MB SCSI hard drive too! > > > David > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:26:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDBE37C71C for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:26:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e66GQAP32133; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:26:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Alan Edmonds Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable In-Reply-To: <39639204.F130147D@digitalconvergence.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Alan Edmonds wrote: > Sorry. Too many versions. It's PXE-2.0 build 078 but > Intel Boot Agent 3.0.03. That makes more sense :) I know that 076 and 079 work. There's an updater on the main support page for the Intel EtherExpress/Pro 100 cards that brings it up to 076, and I've used pxeboot successfully on every system I've run the updater on. It doesn't help that Intel ship{s,ped} a broken PXE on the cards :( Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:28:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magpage.com (trinity.magpage.com [216.155.0.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B586937C4DC for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:28:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfrazier@magpage.com) Received: from magpage.com (poomba.magpage.com [216.155.24.136]) by magpage.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02130; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:28:24 GMT Message-ID: <3964B4A5.BC47E3E@magpage.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 12:32:37 -0400 From: Daniel Frazier Organization: Magpage Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Brandon D. Valentine" wrote: > > fetch_err.et has been removed from RELENG_4 as the result of an MFC done > by Dag-Erling Smorgrav. In order to fix the build one must, at this > point maintain the obsolete libfetch code in RELENG_3. It's probably > smarter just to merge down the diffs from RELENG_4 or HEAD to RELENG_3. > Perhaps Dag can do this and fix the RELENG_3 build for those of you > trying to keep systems on that track. > > Brandon D. Valentine Brandon, Thanks for the response. I had been waiting for 4.1-RELEASE to upgrade, but if I bit the bullet and used this as an excuse to upgrade this box to RELENG_4 are you saying that I shouldn't see this error? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Frazier Tel: 302-239-5900 Ext. 231 System Administrator Fax: 302-239-3909 MAGPAGE, We Power the Internet WWW: http://www.magpage.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:32: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com [155.208.254.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D6637C475 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:32:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com) Received: from hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (hpcpbla.bri.hp.com [15.144.112.65]) by bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABAEECCA; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:31:58 +0200 (METDST) Received: from sse0691.bri.hp.com (sse0691.bri.hp.com [15.144.0.53]) by hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id RAA15515; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:31:57 +0100 (BST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by sse0691.bri.hp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03649; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:34:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:34:14 +0100 From: Steve Roome To: David Scheidt Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now Message-ID: <20000706173414.D1802@moose.bri.hp.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from dscheidt@enteract.com on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:16:05AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:16:05AM -0500, David Scheidt wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > > :> > :> Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) > :> > :> j/k > : > :I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in > :that direction. > > > HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be > because I have boxes that take almost an hour to boot.... It's a general SYSVism I think, but on the whole I find it to be a pain, most of the things that happen at startup (on my HP-UX boxes) could happen in the background, but because someone has made them all sequential, so that they can all put ok's or not ok's on the screen it means that after the 15 odd minutes of hardware testing that these machines do on bootup I then have to wait another 10 minutes until it's really started, and the same again when I want to shutdown. The problem with that of course, is that I end up just calling reboot, rather than bothering to wait for the shutdown - which is probably not what should be encouraged. I'd hate to see FreeBSD go the same way, it's nice to have the information available, but having a lot of sequential startup/shutdown scripts is a pain - and when say SNMP (early starter/stopper) hangs, the box won't boot or shutdown until someone kills off that process, which might involve a walk to the machine room. It's a pain, and seems to be just there to look nice. (IMHO) Unless someone wants to do the same sort of system, but one that runs in parallel - that I'd like. Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:34:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7801437C475; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:34:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 08BAB9B1C; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:34:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1565BA0C; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:34:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:34:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: David Scheidt Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, David Scheidt wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > > :> > :> Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) > :> > :> j/k > : > :I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in > :that direction. > > > HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be > because I have boxes that take almost an hour to boot.... > Many Linux distributions do this too. It seems about as useful as a car's idiot light(s)... IMO, I would prefer to see useful information during boot than that eye-candy. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:35:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from botbay.net (botbay.net [151.197.159.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7F837B792; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wcampbel@botbay.net) Received: from localhost (wcampbel@localhost) by botbay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20182; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:34:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wcampbel@botbay.net) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:34:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Walter Campbell To: Linh Pham Cc: David Scheidt , Dan Nelson , Thomas Gellekum , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be > > because I have boxes that take almost an hour to boot.... > > An hour to boot? Boy... the only time I ever saw a machine take an hour to > boot (which does not include the POST/memory check/BIOS screen) was a > 486SX/33 with 24MB of RAM running Windows NT 3.51 SP3. Of course it was > running off of a 5 1/4" 400MB SCSI hard drive too! Try a Solaris 2.6 machine fsck'ing an array of 14 9.1 giggers Longest I've ever seen a BSD box boot was about 10-15 minutes though, including fsck'ing 4 drives To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:35:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE2A37C7C1 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:35:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA78775; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:35:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:35:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Daniel Frazier Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? In-Reply-To: <3964B4A5.BC47E3E@magpage.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Daniel Frazier wrote: >Brandon, > >Thanks for the response. I had been waiting for 4.1-RELEASE to upgrade, but >if I bit the bullet and used this as an excuse to upgrade this box to >RELENG_4 are you saying that I shouldn't see this error? That is correct. RELENG_4 and its derivates, 4.0-RELEASE/STABLE and the soon to be 4.1-RELEASE/STABLE, do not presently suffer from this build problem in libfetch. An upgrade would be a good idea anyway as I believe you will have a more pleasant FreeBSD experience with RELENG_4. If you decide to source update please be sure to read /usr/src/UPDATING after you cvsup and before you begin the build process. There are some tricky things waiting in the jump over the major version number. Nothing that should give you any trouble if you follow Warner's excellent instructions. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:39: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.polytechnic.edu.na (mail.polytechnic.edu.na [196.31.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0618837C45B for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:38:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@polytechnic.edu.na) Received: from ns1.horizon.na ([196.31.225.199] helo=polytechnic.edu.na) by mail.polytechnic.edu.na with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 13AGYG-0002kK-00; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 16:39:08 -0200 Message-ID: <3964B634.DE74694B@polytechnic.edu.na> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 17:39:16 +0100 From: Tim Priebe Reply-To: tim@iafrica.com.na X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: tim@iafrica.com.na, David Gilbert , Kevin Oberman , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Joerg Micheel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet MTUs > 1500? References: <200007061537.RAA85384@info.iet.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > An Ethernet frame with vlan tagging does _not_ have an extra header etc, > > however you see it, it's the original bits plus some extra bits! > > > When a tagged packet must be sent out ports that are not tagged for that > > vlan, the reverse process occures. The tagged header is removed, and > > replaced with a new one. Obviously new CRC values are generated each > > i am not sure about this one: my understandinbg reading the > spec (18months ago) was that tagged packets only go out on trunk > interfaces (unmodified) or on interfaces tagged for that VLAN (this > time they are untagged). Sorry I was not clear, the tagged header is replaced with an untagged one. > > If the switch does some thing strange, like using different vlan tag > > values for the same vlan on different interfaces, then it would have to > > change the tag value, and recalculate the CRC. This is too complex a > > Why are you so worried by the CRC, which is compuited on the fly > by the interface as bits are sent on the wire ? I almost said nothing about the CRC, but since the confusion seemed to be around encapsulation, which normally takes an entire packet or frame, and encapsulates it in a new packet or frame, that is typically - new header - original packet or frame - new CRC -, therefor I mentioned it. > > > I do know how my FreeBSD-based > > > vlan bridge behaves -- it does multiple encaps, but then if a > > > packet becomes too large it is silently dropped by the interface. > > > > If it encapsulates the the original frame including the original headers > > in a new ethernet frame, then it is doing it wrong, and can not be > > expected to interoperate with a bridge that does it right. Your frames > > sorry i used the wrong terminology -- i said "encapsulate/decapsulate" but > meant "tag/untag" -- and it did interoperate with a real VLAN bridge (802.1Q) I did not mean to be argumentative, only that it be clear that we are only talking about 4 extra bytes, and that it would be in conformance to the standards, which someone seemed to disagree with on a previous such thrread on a FreeBSD list. It is important to me that this works properly, but my employer will insist that we move to Linux, if I have to patch the system after every upgrade. Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:42:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741E737C4E4 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:42:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e66GfwI75501; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:41:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Randy Waterhouse Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build PICOBSD under 4.0-STABLE In-Reply-To: <20000706143120.28486.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Randy Waterhouse wrote: > -> Making and installing crunch1... > crunchgen: ./crunch1.conf: more: warning: could not find any .o files > crunchgen: ./crunch1.conf: more: error: no objpaths specified or calculated > crunchgen: ./crunch1.conf: more: ignoring program because of errors > Run "make -f crunch1.mk objs exe" to build crunched binary. Looks like the MFC monster is at work again. More is gone on 4.X -- change it to 'less' or remove it from picobsd/net/crunch1/crunch.conf. There's a running discussion on -small about rescuing the old more into tinyware. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:44: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C422537C4E4; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:44:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e66Ghtd80482; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:43:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Alan Edmonds Cc: Bill Fumerola , John Baldwin , ps@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable (continued) In-Reply-To: <3964A8E5.D7F4B8E4@digitalconvergence.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Alan Edmonds wrote: > I did find one other problem in the pxe stuff. > I'm using ISC's dhcpd to manage the network. > The pxe client is having trouble with the > option root-path "/client/root" statement. > DHCPD sends it to the pxe client fine (tcpdump), > but pxeboot prints > > root path * (actually a diamond - control D char) What version of dhcpd are you using? I have 1.0 and 2.0 variants about and they work fine. Post the section of your dhcpd.conf with the boot options and we'll peek at that. And what ethernet card are you using, btw? Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:53:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F11037B780; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:53:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA78979; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:53:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:53:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Cc: David Scheidt , Dan Nelson , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote: >Many Linux distributions do this too. It seems about as useful as a car's >idiot light(s)... IMO, I would prefer to see useful information during >boot than that eye-candy. I'd prefer to buy a box of blinkenlights to put in a spare 5.25" bay and let the dmesg on boot reflect only what I need to know as an admin when the box comes up. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:57:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dcnv.com (mail.dcnv.com [216.33.117.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8420E37BC22; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:57:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Received: from digitalconvergence.com (dallas [207.158.100.67]) by mail.dcnv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA77913; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:53:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Message-ID: <3964B9AF.4CB89178@digitalconvergence.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 11:54:07 -0500 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug White Cc: Bill Fumerola , John Baldwin , ps@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable (continued) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here's the entire dhcpd config file. option domain-name "test.dcnv.com"; option routers 10.25.1.1; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; option broadcast-address 10.25.1.255; option domain-name-servers 10.25.1.1; server-name "test.dcnv.com"; server-identifier 10.25.1.1; default-lease-time 1200; max-lease-time 1200; next-server 10.25.1.1; #option root-path "/tftpboot"; option tftp-server-name "10.25.1.1"; subnet 10.25.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { filename "pxeboot"; next-server 10.25.1.1; # option root-path "/tftpboot"; range 10.25.1.100 10.25.1.199; option option-130 "10.25.1.1"; option option-131 "script"; } The dhcp and file server is 10.25.1.1. I currently have the root-path option commented out since it doesn't work :-( I had tried putting in the root-path in both the global options and in the specific subnet options. The two options are for a specific application. Those are being passed corerctly; the dhclient-enter-hook script saves the environment in a file so I can see what's being passed in. That part works. It's the pxe dhcp part that's having problems. dhcpd reports itself as: Internet Software Consortium DHCP Server V3.0b1pl13 Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 The Internet Software Consortium. All rights reserved. Please contribute if you find this software useful. For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html Listening on BPF/fxp1/00:50:8b:d3:0b:ba/10.25.1.0 Sending on BPF/fxp1/00:50:8b:d3:0b:ba/10.25.1.0 Sending on Socket/fallback/fallback-net I'm using the Intel Pro 100+ Management Adapter (part number 721383) and it's using the fxp driver. -- Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology DigitalConvergence.:Com aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com Phone: +1-214-292-6040 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 10:15:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragonstar.dhs.org (dsl-028-a.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.161.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3AD37BBEF; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:15:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (jonsmith@localhost) by dragonstar.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA85524; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:14:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:14:54 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Smith To: Dan Nelson Cc: Thomas Gellekum , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-Reply-To: <20000706102309.D20588@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quickie question: By implementing the 'start' and 'stop' in the local scripts, how much should one _expect_ their systems bootup and slow down times to take? I'm hearing whines of being to linux like, to sysv'ish and some likely valid complaints on startup/shutdown time. I, for one, like the functionality, and thought it kinda already worked that way (or maybe I _made_ it work that way on my machines, cn't remember). I would like solid facts, rather than a religious/exagerated discussion. To my (limited) understanding of this subject, it's not going to make hour long boot-ups. It may increase shutdown time to do things, but, sometimes you need to properly shut things down. If that were not the case, one could flip the power switch instead of typing shutdown.............. -- Close your eyes. Now forget what you see. What do you feel? -- My heart. -- Come here. -- Your heart. -- See? We're exactly the same. Jon Smith -- Senior Math Major @ Purdue On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Jul 06), Thomas Gellekum said: > > sorry for the late notice, I forgot to mail this yesterday. > > > > /etc/rc.shutdown in -current has been changed to call the scripts in > > ${local_startup} with the `stop' option. This allows packages like > > databases to call their own shutdown methods and clean up after > > themselves. All the ports have been changed accordingly. If you still > > have old startup scripts lying around in /usr/{local,X11R6}/etc/rc.d > > you should upgrade these ASAP. > > Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) > > j/k > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@emsphone.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 10:25:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsa-1-as01-7-a14.gd.uol.com.br (bsa-1-as01-7-a14.gd.uol.com.br [200.197.118.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5BA37C255 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:25:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lioux@uol.com.br) Received: (qmail 830 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Jul 2000 01:23:16 -0000 From: "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:22:54 -0300 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: /etc/defaults/make.conf addition? Message-ID: <20000705222254.A766@Fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Is this kind of make variable acceptable for defaults/make.conf addition? I am not sure if this is the sort of thing suitable for defaults inclusion. Maybe this is just a long shot. If this is not acceptable, where in the documentation can I add a line saying this exists? Just a fair question. By the way, leapseconds support is an important matter, UTC is 22 seconds off "real time" (UT1) without it. Ahead or behind is just a matter of perspective, all things being relative. :) If you are reading this and you don't know what I am talking about, check: /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/Makefile /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/leapseconds http://cr.yp.to/proto/utctai.html Regards, Mario Ferreira --- /etc/defaults/make.conf Sun Jun 11 02:25:37 2000 +++ make.conf Wed Jul 5 22:10:08 2000 @@ -26,6 +26,9 @@ # #CXXFLAGS+= -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized # +# Add leapseconds support to each timezone file, e.g., when making world +#LEAPSECONDS= true +# # Avoid compiling profiled libraries #NOPROFILE= true # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 10:28:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law-f136.hotmail.com [209.185.131.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EAE5A37BC22 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:28:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randywaterhouse@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 92770 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jul 2000 17:28:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20000706172809.92769.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.4.254.202 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:28:08 PDT X-Originating-IP: [24.4.254.202] From: "Randy Waterhouse" To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build PICOBSD under 4.0-STABLE Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 17:28:08 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug White wrote: >Looks like the MFC monster is at work again. > >More is gone on 4.X -- change it to 'less' or remove it from >picobsd/net/crunch1/crunch.conf. > >There's a running discussion on -small about rescuing the old more into >tinyware. > >Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve >dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org Thanks, that (and a private reply from someone else) got me past that problem (I changed more to less), but now it's failing with: cc -static -o crunch1 crunch1.o sh.lo test.lo echo.lo hostname.lo ln.lo login.lo getty.lo stty.lo inetd.lo telnetd.lo w.lo msg.lo kget.lo reboot.lo init.lo ifconfig.lo df.lo sps.lo ns.lo vm.lo cat.lo cp.lo rm.lo mknod.lo chmod.lo chown.lo mkdir.lo ls.lo syslogd.lo sysctl.lo route.lo pwd_mkdb.lo dev_mkdb.lo mount.lo mount_msdos.lo umount.lo kill.lo mount_std.lo natd.lo pwd.lo ppp.lo telnet.lo less.lo passwd.lo date.lo mount_cd9660.lo mount_nfs.lo ping.lo traceroute.lo routed.lo ipfw.lo minigzip.lo -lncurses -lmytinfo -lipx -lz -lpcap -lalias -lwrap -ledit -lutil -lmd -lcrypt -lmp -lgmp -lm -lkvm -lgnuregex -ltelnet -lradius login.lo: In function `auth_pam': login.lo(.text+0x1154): undefined reference to `pam_start' login.lo(.text+0x116c): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' login.lo(.text+0x1187): undefined reference to `pam_set_item' login.lo(.text+0x119f): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' login.lo(.text+0x11c3): undefined reference to `pam_set_item' login.lo(.text+0x11db): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' login.lo(.text+0x1201): undefined reference to `pam_authenticate' login.lo(.text+0x1239): undefined reference to `pam_get_item' login.lo(.text+0x127f): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' login.lo(.text+0x12ab): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' login.lo(.text+0x12cc): undefined reference to `pam_end' login.lo(.text+0x12e4): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' login.lo(.data+0xa0): undefined reference to `misc_conv' inetd.lo: In function `ipsecsetup': inetd.lo(.text+0x1d88): undefined reference to `ipsec_set_policy' inetd.lo(.text+0x1d9d): undefined reference to `ipsec_get_policylen' inetd.lo(.text+0x1e1c): undefined reference to `ipsec_set_policy' inetd.lo(.text+0x1e31): undefined reference to `ipsec_get_policylen' inetd.lo: In function `getconfigent': inetd.lo(.text+0x21e9): undefined reference to `ipsec_get_policylen' ppp.lo: In function `MakeKey': ppp.lo(.text+0xfe): undefined reference to `des_set_odd_parity' ppp.lo: In function `DesEncrypt': ppp.lo(.text+0x142): undefined reference to `des_set_key' ppp.lo(.text+0x14f): undefined reference to `des_ecb_encrypt' ppp.lo: In function `ID0NgMkSockNode': ppp.lo(.text+0x16a86): undefined reference to `NgMkSockNode' ppp.lo(.data+0x680): undefined reference to `ether_Create' ppp.lo(.data+0x684): undefined reference to `ether_iov2device' ppp.lo(.data+0x688): undefined reference to `ether_DeviceSize' telnet.lo: In function `setpolicy': telnet.lo(.text+0x22ab): undefined reference to `ipsec_set_policy' telnet.lo(.text+0x22bc): undefined reference to `ipsec_strerror' telnet.lo(.text+0x22ff): undefined reference to `ipsec_get_policylen' passwd.lo: In function `local_passwd': passwd.lo(.text+0x3dd): undefined reference to `local_password' passwd.lo: In function `main': passwd.lo(.text+0x4d6): undefined reference to `yp_domain' passwd.lo(.text+0x4dc): undefined reference to `yp_server' passwd.lo(.text+0x4e5): undefined reference to `yp_server' passwd.lo(.text+0x4f6): undefined reference to `yp_server' passwd.lo(.text+0x4fe): undefined reference to `force_old' passwd.lo(.text+0x562): undefined reference to `use_yp' passwd.lo(.text+0x57f): undefined reference to `yp_passwd' passwd.lo(.text+0x5cc): undefined reference to `yp_in_pw_file' passwd.lo(.text+0x5e4): undefined reference to `yp_passwd' passwd.lo: In function `pw_error': passwd.lo(.text+0xf50): undefined reference to `_use_yp' ping.lo: In function `main': ping.lo(.text+0x915): undefined reference to `ipsec_set_policy' ping.lo(.text+0x926): undefined reference to `ipsec_strerror' ping.lo(.text+0x93c): undefined reference to `ipsec_get_policylen' ping.lo(.text+0x99e): undefined reference to `ipsec_set_policy' ping.lo(.text+0x9af): undefined reference to `ipsec_strerror' ping.lo(.text+0x9c4): undefined reference to `ipsec_get_policylen' traceroute.lo: In function `main': traceroute.lo(.text+0x798): undefined reference to `ipsec_strerror' traceroute.lo(.text+0x7c5): undefined reference to `ipsec_strerror' traceroute.lo(.text+0x96c): undefined reference to `ipsec_strerror' traceroute.lo(.text+0x999): undefined reference to `ipsec_strerror' traceroute.lo: In function `setpolicy': traceroute.lo(.text+0xe55): undefined reference to `ipsec_set_policy' traceroute.lo(.text+0xe6a): undefined reference to `ipsec_get_policylen' traceroute.lo(.text+0xe90): undefined reference to `ipsec_strerror' *** Error code 1 Am I missing a crypto library or something? RW ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 10:34:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tomts2-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts2.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F2137C280 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:34:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bjf@gw.apt.samurai.com) Received: from gw.apt.samurai.com ([64.228.65.238]) by tomts2-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000706173409.DBGM8045.tomts2-srv.bellnexxia.net@gw.apt.samurai.com>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:34:09 -0400 Received: by gw.apt.samurai.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D460953; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:34:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:34:08 -0400 From: bjf To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf Message-ID: <20000706133408.A412@samurai.com> References: <20000705171719.A90791@samurai.com> <4.3.2.20000705201259.00b9db70@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000705201259.00b9db70@207.227.119.2>; from jeff-ml@mountin.net on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 08:19:20PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 08:19:20PM -0500, "Jeffrey J. Mountin" wrote: > You did make sure to update all the rc. files right? I did, as part of mergemaster'ing. FreeBSD 4.0-R (another box): # $FreeBSD: src/etc/rc,v 1.212 2000/02/28 19:54:06 markm Exp $ FreeBSD 4.0-S (the box in question): # $FreeBSD: src/etc/rc,v 1.212.2.4 2000/06/27 09:43:30 asmodai Exp $ Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competency Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 10:55: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from forrie.net (forrie.net [64.20.73.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A8737C169 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:54:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.forrie.com (dhcp-north-71-168.navipath.net [64.20.71.168]) by forrie.net with id e66Hspx57624 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000706135041.00bff100@64.20.73.233> X-Sender: forrie@64.20.73.233 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 13:51:29 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Forrest Aldrich Subject: 4.0 Stable Compile Failure Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This still appears to be broken. I've done a "make clean" in /usr/src just to be certain, and this is still generating an error: ===> libfetch compile_et /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.et cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -Wall -pedantic -DNDEBUG -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c -o fetch.o In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: fetch_err.h:6: com_right.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: fetch_err.h:8: warning: `struct et_list' declared inside parameter list fetch_err.h:8: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, fetch_err.h:8: warning: which is probably not what you want. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Is this going to be fixed, or is there another problem? _F To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 10:56:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apoq.skynet.be (apoq.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA1037C1F3 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:56:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by apoq.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506DC1F32A; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:56:49 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:25:58 +0200 To: "Brandon D. Valentine" , Daniel Frazier From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:35 PM -0400 2000/7/6, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > That is correct. RELENG_4 and its derivates, 4.0-RELEASE/STABLE and the > soon to be 4.1-RELEASE/STABLE, do not presently suffer from this build > problem in libfetch. An upgrade would be a good idea anyway as I > believe you will have a more pleasant FreeBSD experience with RELENG_4. Unfortunately, there are those of us running production boxes on FreeBSD 3.x-STABLE, and we cannot afford to upgrade these machines directly to 4.0-STABLE. I'm working on trying to buy a replacement machine, but it's not going to be here tomorrow, or this month. So, I need a real fix for this problem under 3.x-STABLE. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 11:13: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5775D37B74D for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:12:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA79893; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:12:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:12:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Brad Knowles Cc: Daniel Frazier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > Unfortunately, there are those of us running production boxes on >FreeBSD 3.x-STABLE, and we cannot afford to upgrade these machines >directly to 4.0-STABLE. I'm working on trying to buy a replacement >machine, but it's not going to be here tomorrow, or this month. So, >I need a real fix for this problem under 3.x-STABLE. Precisely why I brought it to the attention of the maintainer, Dag-Erling Smorgrav. It's his code. If it's not fixed by the time I get home I will do the necessary diffing, bring my RELENG_3 system up to 3.5-STABLE and post a tarball of patches for you guys and ask that they are committed. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 11:25: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB0537C0EF; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:25:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000706182601.NZZC28214.relay01@chello.nl>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:26:01 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00351; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:24:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:24:52 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: "Chris D. Faulhaber" , David Scheidt , Dan Nelson , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now Message-ID: <20000706202452.B285@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from bandix@looksharp.net on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 12:53:09PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 12:53:09PM -0400, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote: > > >Many Linux distributions do this too. It seems about as useful as a car's > >idiot light(s)... IMO, I would prefer to see useful information during > >boot than that eye-candy. > > I'd prefer to buy a box of blinkenlights to put in a spare 5.25" bay and > let the dmesg on boot reflect only what I need to know as an admin when > the box comes up. We had that once. It's called a PDP/11 -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 11:33: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uran.kharkiv.net (uran.kharkiv.net [194.44.156.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2615E37B557; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:32:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vvc@kharkiv.net) Received: from hut.kharkiv.net (hut.kharkiv.net [194.44.156.99]) by uran.kharkiv.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/uran) with ESMTP id VAA36396; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:32:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from vvc@kharkiv.net) Received: from localhost (vvc@localhost) by hut.kharkiv.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e66IWh000350; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:32:46 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:32:43 +0300 (EEST) From: "Vadym V. Chepkov" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: cvs-crypto Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! What had happend whis cvsup.internat.freebsd.org? CVSup update begins at 2000-07-06 03:26:00 Updating from cvsup.internat.freebsd.org Connected to cvsup.internat.freebsd.org Server message: Unknown collection "cvs-crypto" Skipping collection cvs-crypto/cvs Finished successfully Vadym Chepkov, Kharkiv State Polytechnic University To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 11:43:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69C237B98E; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:43:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.84.237]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000706184345.BIOH16423.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:43:45 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01639; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:43:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:43:42 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: "Vadym V. Chepkov" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs-crypto Message-ID: <20000706194341.I233@parish> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from vvc@kharkiv.net on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 09:32:43PM +0300 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 09:32:43PM +0300, Vadym V. Chepkov wrote: > Hello! > > What had happend whis cvsup.internat.freebsd.org? > > CVSup update begins at 2000-07-06 03:26:00 > Updating from cvsup.internat.freebsd.org > Connected to cvsup.internat.freebsd.org > Server message: Unknown collection "cvs-crypto" > Skipping collection cvs-crypto/cvs > Finished successfully > cvs-crypto is now part of src-all since the US Govt. decided that the rest of the world could be trusted with strong encryption. [no comment] This was posted on -stable a couple of days ago: -------- begin included message-------- This announcement is primarily for FreeBSD committers, CVSup users, and mirror sites. Mark Murray will soon post a companion announcement for CTM users. As a consequence of recent relaxation in US export restrictions for cryptography software, the FreeBSD project has obtained the necessary permissions to export the crypto portions of its source tree. This is a welcome development, to say the least, and we are now ready to take advantage of it. In a nutshell, our plan is to fold the crypto files into the "src-all" and "cvs-all" collections and eliminate the "cvs-crypto" collection entirely. Just to make this is perfectly clear, we will eliminate the _collection_ only -- not the files it contains. Those files will simply become a part of "src-all" and "cvs-all". These existing crypto sub-collections: src-crypto src-eBones src-secure src-sys-crypto will remain valid and unchanged, except that they will become sub-collections of "src-all" instead of the soon-to-be-defunct "cvs-all" collection. As part of this process, the crypto files on internat.FreeBSD.org will be synchronized with the now-unrestricted files on freefall. After this step there will no longer be any differences between the files on the two machines, and internat will become just another mirror site like all the others. Neither mirror sites nor CVSup users need to do anything special to prepare for this. In fact, I strongly advise all of you to leave your supfiles unchanged until the dust has settled. When we eliminate the "cvs-crypto" collection, you will start seeing warnings from CVSup saying that collection doesn't exist. These warnings will be harmless and can safely be ignored. By that time the files which formerly belonged to "cvs-crypto" will be owned by "src-all" and "cvs-all". They won't be deleted or changed. Here is how we plan to proceed: 1. Impose an enforced freeze on all of the crypto files. 2. Synch up internat with freefall. 3. Absorb the crypto files into the "src-all" and "cvs-all" collections, and eliminate the "cvs-crypto" collection. At the same time, temporarily orphan "src-crypto", "src-eBones", "src-secure", and "src-sys-crypto" so that they are no longer treated as sub-collections of "cvs-all". This latter step will have no visible effect, except that it will temporarily suppress cvsupd's mirror mode optimization for the orphaned collections. Mirror sites may see a slight increase in load because of that, but it will last only a day or two. I don't expect the increased load to be significant, because the crypto collections are relatively small. 4. Wait 24-48 hours to make sure these changes have propagated to the mirrors. 5. Reparent "src-crypto", "src-eBones", "src-secure", and "src-sys-crypto" so that they are considered to be sub-collections of "src-all". This will cause the mirror mode optimizations to kick in again. 6. Lift the freeze. After the freeze has been lifted and the dust has settled, you may remove "cvs-crypto" from your supfiles if you wish. There is no urgency surrounding that; you'll merely get harmless warnings from your CVSup updates until you do. Finally, we will: 7. Update the cvsup-mirror port, sample supfiles, and other documentation. We planned this transition as carefully as we could, and we are confident that it will go smoothly. Should a few unforseen glitches arise, please remain calm and rest assured that we perpetrators are safe and sound in a well-concealed underground bunker where you will never find us. Your friendly source-meisters, John Polstra, Peter Wemm, and Mark Murray ------ end included message --------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > Vadym Chepkov, > Kharkiv State Polytechnic University > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 11:57:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.post.kek.jp (mail4.post.kek.jp [130.87.41.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0047637BAA3 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:57:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yosimoto@post.kek.jp) Received: from mail1.post.kek.jp (root@mail1.post.kek.jp [130.87.41.18]) by mail4.post.kek.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7WpostKEK:04/29/00) with ESMTP id DAA29854 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 03:57:09 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from yosimoto@post.kek.jp) Received: from darwin.kek.jp (darwin.kek.jp [130.87.85.49]) by mail1.post.kek.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7WpostKEK:05/01/00) with ESMTP id DAA17896 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 03:57:09 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from yosimoto@post.kek.jp) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: yosimoto@pop.post.kek.jp X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2-Jb5-7.100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 03:57:09 +0900 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO Subject: Re: cvs-crypto Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 21:32 +0300 07/06/2000, Vadym V. Chepkov wrote: > Hello! > > What had happend whis cvsup.internat.freebsd.org? see ---------------------------------------------------------- Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO KEK, High Energy Accelerator Research Organization Accelerator Laboratory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 12:43:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wind.imbris.com (wind.imbris.com [216.18.130.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B311237B61A for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rickm@imbris.com) Received: from wind.imbris.com (wind.imbris.com [216.18.130.7]) by wind.imbris.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA73350 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:41:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:41:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick McGee To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: mylex BT958 card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG An issue has come up with the driver for the Mylex (buslogics) BT-958 card and 4.0 free-bsd release. BT0 encountered busy mailbox with 190 out of 192 commands active. DA1:bt0:0:1:0 ccb 0xcfbcc 180 timeout Which can lead to lockup or reboot of the system. After contacting Mylex, Mylex believes this error under heavy load is being caused by the driver and not the card. The problem is consistant with mylex firmware 5.06I and 5.07B. This problem shows up with drives catanated, using ccd. Has anyone seen this problem? If so do we have a fix. Please respond to my email addres for I am not on this list. BTW, where would everyone like the CCD commands and fixes posted? I'd like to thank everyone who helped with CCD. The pages for CCD on Freebsd's website are in serious need of updating and several commands and steps are missing. Rick rickm@imbris.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 13:17:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B541B37B98A for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:17:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA89838 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:17:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:17:47 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ** HEADS UP ** builds will be broken for a few hours Message-ID: <20000706131747.A89815@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am about to import 5-CURRENT Binutils. Kernel builds will be broken with the new Binutils, during the time it takes me to MFC the /sys/ changes that will be needed. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 13:20:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4B037B945 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:20:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA89848; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:19:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:19:51 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Adam Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: building 4.0-stable on 5-current Message-ID: <20000706131951.B89815@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from bsdx@looksharp.net on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 04:47:51PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 04:47:51PM -0400, Adam wrote: > Is building 4.0-stable on 5-current supported? Offically "no". However it usually builds. At the moment it should be doable, but it wasn't for a ?two? months. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 13:22:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4720337BB2B for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:22:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA35022; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:21:56 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: langille.org To: "Igor B. Bykhalo" Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:21:55 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: make world fails : file exists Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: Message-ID: <39659323.10073.581390D@localhost> In-reply-to: <3964DF9B.5211.2C3B2F0@localhost> References: <01bfe71e$c2a08c80$0000e9c1@serv2.binep.ac.ru> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 6 Jul 2000, at 19:35, Dan Langille wrote: > On 6 Jul 2000, at 10:49, Igor B. Bykhalo wrote: > > > Dan, > > > > > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > > > > In my continuing 4-day saga to get 4.0-stable compiled, I encountered > > > > the following error during make world: > > > > > > > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl - > > > > I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 - > > > > I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > > > > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o > > > > toke.o mkdir: build: File exists *** Error code 1 > > > > > > After a shutdown to single user mode, I did a make clean, and then a > > > make world. The above error repeated. > > > > > > I did an fsck /dev/da0 and everything was fine. I'm about to do my > > > fifth > > > cvsup in five days. And also send another message to the client > > > explaining why their server is delayed. > > > > > > I had this mystery a month ago. I say mystery, because > > after 4th or 5th CVSup I decided to ran ntpdate to correct > > the machine's time, it was corrected for about 30 seconds, > > and guess what I get? Next buildworld went flawlessly! @#$!!!! > > Dunno what helped - CVSup or ntpdate... > > Hmmm, I had just finished my cvsup before your email arrived. I > checked the time on the troublesome box. It was out by about 30-45 > seconds compared to my cvsup server. We'll know in about 12 hours > (it's a P100).... Well success! It built! And sshd works! It appears that the out-of-sync time caused the problem. But then it might have been the latest cvsup. I have no idea. But it's one more thing to add to the list of things to check if make world fails. Thanks for the help folks. -- Dan Langille [I'm looking for more work] The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.freebsddiary.org/ FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 13:52:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front001.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB76D37B643 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:52:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO foo) by front001.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 12785777; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 16:52:27 -0400 From: David Uhring To: Forrest Aldrich , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0 Stable Compile Failure Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:52:31 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.50] Content-Type: text/plain References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000706135041.00bff100@64.20.73.233> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000706135041.00bff100@64.20.73.233> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00070620523100.08450@foo> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > This still appears to be broken. I've done a "make clean" in /usr/src > just to be certain, and this is still generating an error: > > ===> libfetch > compile_et /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.et > cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -Wall -pedantic -DNDEBUG > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c -o > fetch.o In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, > from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: > fetch_err.h:6: com_right.h: No such file or directory > In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, > from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: > fetch_err.h:8: warning: `struct et_list' declared inside parameter list > fetch_err.h:8: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, > fetch_err.h:8: warning: which is probably not what you want. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > > Is this going to be fixed, or is there another problem? > > > > _F Suggest you look at the file with an editor like kwrite which will color the text by syntax. I've several times found ???.c files that had one character converted to something else, either in TCP/IP transmission or tar -zxpf from the CD or maybe the file is corrupted in the repository. For instance, one time, make reported a missing endif; it was caused by a /* xxxxxxx */ showing up as /* xxxxxxx j/. Last night when I tried a make buildworld again, make reported a syntax error before '(' in line 121 of /usr/src/lib/libc/regex/regcomp.c. Where a space should have been was an extraneous '('. Changed it to a space and made buildworld just fine. Dave > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 13:55:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front001.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CD037B970 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:55:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO foo) by front001.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 12786076; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 16:55:33 -0400 From: David Uhring To: Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs-crypto Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:55:37 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.50] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00070620553701.08450@foo> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO wrote: > At 21:32 +0300 07/06/2000, Vadym V. Chepkov wrote: > > Hello! > > > > What had happend whis cvsup.internat.freebsd.org? > > see > l e> > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO > KEK, High Energy Accelerator Research Organization > Accelerator Laboratory > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Re: your URL "The specified message cannot be accessed" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 13:57: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF9737B9BE for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA90003; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:56:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:56:32 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Harry Putnam Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fstab mount options Message-ID: <20000706135631.C89815@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from reader@newsguy.com on Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 02:10:32PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 02:10:32PM -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > Is there no possibility of allowing users to mount filesystems, other > than sudo or similar? Very easy to use the ``super'' port to write scripts to allow this. Things like ``mount-zip'' are just as easy as `mount /zip'. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 13:57:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F30337B81B for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:57:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA90014; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:57:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:57:38 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Richard Stanaford Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Resuming a failed build... Message-ID: <20000706135737.D89815@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20000703224116.21315.qmail@web3101.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000703224116.21315.qmail@web3101.mail.yahoo.com>; from rsstan@yahoo.com on Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 03:41:16PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 03:41:16PM -0700, Richard Stanaford wrote: > I know the Handbook makes mention of using... > > cd /usr/src > make -DNOCLEAN all > > when trying to resume an interrupted build. Is that still an > acceptable method of building the world without having to deal with > having the /usr/obj tree cleaned? Yes, but it should be ``make -DNOCLEAN '' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 14:10: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6384437B728 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:10:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.122]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:11:45 -0700 Message-ID: <3964F5BE.A20B9C96@3-cities.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:10:22 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Uhring Cc: Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs-crypto References: <00070620553701.08450@foo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Uhring wrote: > > On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO wrote: > > At 21:32 +0300 07/06/2000, Vadym V. Chepkov wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > > > What had happend whis cvsup.internat.freebsd.org? > > > > see > > >l e> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO > > KEK, High Energy Accelerator Research Organization > > Accelerator Laboratory > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > Re: your URL > > "The specified message cannot be accessed" That is because the "le" was folded. If you add the "le" to the link it works. Kent > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 14:16:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706D637B77D; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:16:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0B7B02B23E; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:16:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:16:44 -0700 From: Paul Saab To: Alan Edmonds Cc: Doug White , Bill Fumerola , John Baldwin , ps@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable (continued) Message-ID: <20000706141644.A43875@elvis.mu.org> References: <3964B9AF.4CB89178@digitalconvergence.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3964B9AF.4CB89178@digitalconvergence.com>; from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:54:07AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG option dhcp-max-message-size 2048; Add that and see if it fixes the problem. Alan Edmonds (aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) wrote: > Here's the entire dhcpd config file. > > option domain-name "test.dcnv.com"; > option routers 10.25.1.1; > option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; > option broadcast-address 10.25.1.255; > option domain-name-servers 10.25.1.1; > server-name "test.dcnv.com"; > server-identifier 10.25.1.1; > default-lease-time 1200; > max-lease-time 1200; > next-server 10.25.1.1; > #option root-path "/tftpboot"; > option tftp-server-name "10.25.1.1"; > > subnet 10.25.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { > filename "pxeboot"; > next-server 10.25.1.1; > # option root-path "/tftpboot"; > range 10.25.1.100 10.25.1.199; > option option-130 "10.25.1.1"; > option option-131 "script"; > } > > The dhcp and file server is 10.25.1.1. I currently have the > root-path option commented out since it doesn't work :-( > I had tried putting in the root-path in both the global options > and in the specific subnet options. The two options are for > a specific application. Those are being passed corerctly; the > dhclient-enter-hook script saves the environment in a file so > I can see what's being passed in. That part works. It's the > pxe dhcp part that's having problems. > > dhcpd reports itself as: > > Internet Software Consortium DHCP Server V3.0b1pl13 > Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 The Internet Software Consortium. > All rights reserved. > > Please contribute if you find this software useful. > For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html > > Listening on BPF/fxp1/00:50:8b:d3:0b:ba/10.25.1.0 > Sending on BPF/fxp1/00:50:8b:d3:0b:ba/10.25.1.0 > Sending on Socket/fallback/fallback-net > > > > I'm using the Intel Pro 100+ Management Adapter (part number 721383) > and it's using the fxp driver. > > -- > Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology > DigitalConvergence.:Com > aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com > Phone: +1-214-292-6040 -- Paul Saab Technical Yahoo paul@mu.org - ps@yahoo-inc.com - ps@freebsd.org Do You .. uhh .. Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 14:19: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA4737B84E; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:19:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA73664; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:19:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:19:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Vivek Khera Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree-4 installation on -STABLE In-Reply-To: <14691.16237.960670.977766@onceler.kcilink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > Yes, but when you install FreeBSD 3.x, XFree86 is not installed as a > package on which you can run pkg_delete. At least it was not when I > did my initial install of FreeBSD 3.3. I believe this is now fixed. Otherwise, you'll have to just use your good friend rm(1) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 14:21:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3101.mail.yahoo.com (web3101.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7C4237B728 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:21:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000706212121.17947.qmail@web3101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [150.159.224.8] by web3101.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:21:21 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:21:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: 4.1 disks To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Perhaps this is a dumb question.. but what is the possibility of putting the RELEASES, distfiles and all, on DVD? *shrug* Ge gentle.. ;-) -Richard --- "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > Is it decided yet what will be on the 4.1 disks? Is there room for > > the distfiles, and is it still 4 disks? > > Sadly, there is no room for the distfiles anymore since even the > packages, which are the #1 user requested items, are overflowing the 4 > CDs. I may be able to fight and win a battle to go to 6 CDs, but > that will only catch us up with packages and "various extra bits" > again. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 14:22: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E55337B8BC; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:22:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA74152; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:22:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:22:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Warner Losh Cc: Adam , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: building 4.0-stable on 5-current In-Reply-To: <200007060554.XAA48279@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > make buildworld has worked for me. I've been building 5.0 on -stable > and 4.x stable on -current on and off for a while now. Should work > for you. That's one of the big things that the cross tools targets Building 4.0 on 5.0 has been broken for a while, since one of obrien's round of binutils imports, I think. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 14:27:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF38A37B798; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA75270; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:27:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:27:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Brad Knowles Cc: "Brandon D. Valentine" , Daniel Frazier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > Unfortunately, there are those of us running production boxes on > FreeBSD 3.x-STABLE, and we cannot afford to upgrade these machines > directly to 4.0-STABLE. I'm working on trying to buy a replacement > machine, but it's not going to be here tomorrow, or this month. So, > I need a real fix for this problem under 3.x-STABLE. "Don't try and upgrade until it's fixed" :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 14:29:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dcnv.com (mail.dcnv.com [216.33.117.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F363437B7C9; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:29:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Received: from digitalconvergence.com (dallas [207.158.100.67]) by mail.dcnv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA95171; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:28:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Message-ID: <3964FA35.F60BFC9A@digitalconvergence.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 16:29:25 -0500 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Saab Cc: Doug White , Bill Fumerola , John Baldwin , ps@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable (continued) References: <3964B9AF.4CB89178@digitalconvergence.com> <20000706141644.A43875@elvis.mu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Paul Saab wrote: > > option dhcp-max-message-size 2048; > > Add that and see if it fixes the problem. Sure enough, that did it. Thanks a million. -- Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology DigitalConvergence.:Com aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com Phone: +1-214-292-6040 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 14:34:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C3637BCFF for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:34:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000706213448.BLRV26299.relay02@chello.nl>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:34:48 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA00819; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:34:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:34:47 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Richard Stanaford Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 disks Message-ID: <20000706233447.B795@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000706212121.17947.qmail@web3101.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000706212121.17947.qmail@web3101.mail.yahoo.com>; from rsstan@yahoo.com on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 02:21:21PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 02:21:21PM -0700, Richard Stanaford wrote: jkh has been working this for some time, but AFAIK there is not yet a sensible mass production for a reasonable price for DVD. So it has not been done yet. > Perhaps this is a dumb question.. but what is the possibility of putting the > RELEASES, distfiles and all, on DVD? *shrug* > > Ge gentle.. ;-) > > -Richard > > > > > --- "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > Is it decided yet what will be on the 4.1 disks? Is there room for > > > the distfiles, and is it still 4 disks? > > > > Sadly, there is no room for the distfiles anymore since even the > > packages, which are the #1 user requested items, are overflowing the 4 > > CDs. I may be able to fight and win a battle to go to 6 CDs, but > > that will only catch us up with packages and "various extra bits" > > again. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ---end quoted text--- -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 14:36:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3104.mail.yahoo.com (web3104.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F89437B798 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:36:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000706213630.16205.qmail@web3104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [150.159.224.8] by web3104.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:36:30 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:36:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How bout a booting a SparcStation running Solaris 2.6 off a 1x CDROM? When it finally got done, I had to sit and remind myself what was wrong with it. -Richard --- Walter Campbell wrote: > > > HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be > > > because I have boxes that take almost an hour to boot.... > > > > An hour to boot? Boy... the only time I ever saw a machine take an hour to > > boot (which does not include the POST/memory check/BIOS screen) was a > > 486SX/33 with 24MB of RAM running Windows NT 3.51 SP3. Of course it was > > running off of a 5 1/4" 400MB SCSI hard drive too! > > Try a Solaris 2.6 machine fsck'ing an array of 14 9.1 giggers > > Longest I've ever seen a BSD box boot was about 10-15 minutes though, > including fsck'ing 4 drives > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 14:39: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9799F37B7FA; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:38:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24430; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:38:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA54117; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:38:32 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007062138.PAA54117@harmony.village.org> To: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: building 4.0-stable on 5-current Cc: Adam , stable@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:22:00 PDT." References: Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:38:32 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Kris Kennaway writes: : On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Warner Losh wrote: : : > make buildworld has worked for me. I've been building 5.0 on -stable : > and 4.x stable on -current on and off for a while now. Should work : > for you. That's one of the big things that the cross tools targets : : Building 4.0 on 5.0 has been broken for a while, since one of obrien's : round of binutils imports, I think. Hmmm, I'll have to test this again because I'm almost positive that I've done this on binutils. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 15: 3:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3102.mail.yahoo.com (web3102.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE98B37B691 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:03:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000706220308.29650.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [150.159.224.8] by web3102.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:03:08 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:03:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: Resuming a failed build... To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I see what you are saying... I thought I tried 'make -DNOCLEAN buildworld' and it ate /usr/obj anyway. Then again... I may have entered ... 'make buldworld -DNOCLEAN' which doesn't mean anything... doh! -Richard --- David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 03:41:16PM -0700, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > I know the Handbook makes mention of using... > > > > cd /usr/src > > make -DNOCLEAN all > > > > when trying to resume an interrupted build. Is that still an > > acceptable method of building the world without having to deal with > > having the /usr/obj tree cleaned? > > Yes, but it should be > ``make -DNOCLEAN '' > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 15:13:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from karon.dynas.se (karon.dynas.se [192.71.43.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D075E37B58A for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:13:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikko@dynas.se) Received: (qmail 24533 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2000 22:13:22 -0000 Received: from spirit.sto.dynas.se (HELO spirit.dynas.se) (172.16.1.10) by karon.sto.dynas.se with SMTP; 6 Jul 2000 22:13:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 16667 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2000 22:13:28 -0000 Received: from m2.dynas.se (172.16.1.168) by spirit.dynas.se with SMTP; 6 Jul 2000 22:13:28 -0000 Received: (from mikko@localhost) by m2.dynas.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA26263; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:18:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mikko) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:18:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikko Tyolajarvi Message-Id: <200007062218.AAA26263@m2.dynas.se> To: jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now Newsgroups: local.freebsd-stable References: <20000706102309.D20588@dan.emsphone.com> X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.6 (NOV) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathan Smith wrote: >By implementing the 'start' and 'stop' in the local scripts, how much >should one _expect_ their systems bootup and slow down times to take? If the start/stop arguments are coded in a backwards compatible fashion, there should be no difference. For startup, I can see no reason why there should be any difference at all [1]. As for shutdown, ports that have been fine so far without doing anything at shutdown should just ignore the "stop" arg, IMHO. Only processes that really need a clean shutdown should do anything when given the "stop" argument. $.02, /Mikko 1) Ok, make that "hardly any difference" -- the rc scripts will be a few lines longer and contain an extra conditional of some sort, so they might be slightly slower ... :) -- Mikko Työläjärvi_______________________________________mikko@rsasecurity.com RSA Security To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 15:39:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragonstar.dhs.org (dsl-028-a.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.161.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE9837B866 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:39:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (jonsmith@localhost) by dragonstar.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA86012; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:39:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:39:08 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Smith To: Mikko Tyolajarvi Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-Reply-To: <200007062218.AAA26263@m2.dynas.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Then what's the problem? -- Close your eyes. Now forget what you see. What do you feel? -- My heart. -- Come here. -- Your heart. -- See? We're exactly the same. =09Jon Smith -- Senior Math Major @ Purdue On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Mikko Tyolajarvi wrote: > Jonathan Smith wrote: >=20 > >By implementing the 'start' and 'stop' in the local scripts, how much > >should one _expect_ their systems bootup and slow down times to take? >=20 > If the start/stop arguments are coded in a backwards compatible > fashion, there should be no difference. For startup, I can see no > reason why there should be any difference at all [1]. >=20 > As for shutdown, ports that have been fine so far without doing > anything at shutdown should just ignore the "stop" arg, IMHO. Only > processes that really need a clean shutdown should do anything when > given the "stop" argument. >=20 > =09 $.02, > =09 /Mikko >=20 > 1) Ok, make that "hardly any difference" -- the rc scripts will be > a few lines longer and contain an extra conditional of some sort, so > they might be slightly slower ... :) > --=20 > Mikko Ty=F6l=E4j=E4rvi_______________________________________mikko@rsase= curity.com > RSA Security >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 16: 1:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E595337BAC4; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:01:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AE01817F; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 01:01:28 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:20:47 +0200 To: Kris Kennaway From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? Cc: "Brandon D. Valentine" , Daniel Frazier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2:27 PM -0700 2000/7/6, Kris Kennaway wrote: > "Don't try and upgrade until it's fixed" :-) "Fair enough. Please tell me, to the microsecond, when you're going to have it fixed." ;-) -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 16: 6:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAA637B866; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA94837; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:06:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:06:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Brad Knowles Cc: "Brandon D. Valentine" , Daniel Frazier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 2:27 PM -0700 2000/7/6, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > "Don't try and upgrade until it's fixed" :-) > > "Fair enough. Please tell me, to the microsecond, when you're > going to have it fixed." ;-) "Keep monitoring this channel" :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 16: 7:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3620537B8D1 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:07:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13AJVu-000CLA-00; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 22:48:54 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13AJVt-0007Up-00; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 22:48:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:48:53 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Roland Jesse Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now Message-ID: <20000706224853.C13648@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <0vlmzf46fo.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lCAWRPmW1mITcIfM" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <0vlmzf46fo.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --lCAWRPmW1mITcIfM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roland Jesse wrote: > Thomas Gellekum writes: >=20 >> | exit 64 >=20 > Is this return code 64 on intention or would everything else besides 0 > be ok too? Anything !0 would probably be ok, but the reason for 64 can be found in : #define EX_USAGE 64 /* command line usage error */ This seems to fit here. :-) --=20 Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D --lCAWRPmW1mITcIfM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: PfvSpz3q4xxAf+kmgfcoht0exdYeM++i iQCVAwUBOWT+xCsPVtiZOS99AQFqDQQAhZotD2wkd5KT4lnrbj1Trx2aU00rqFGp P59cXdrurT4XQWRZMv5Iq/Z/DDoVBX732xb8TQaK04b/GQhqyxxh1E4ZWK+wvuVb minrSZztXkSdou+VaXI3RGA4IO9Qp7JeBpdQaxEjKrfbtUc2hlbAsmfbotunn1CI thOF2x3r42k= =SvZw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lCAWRPmW1mITcIfM-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 16: 8: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEA637BA24; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA26833; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:08:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:08:01 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Richard Stanaford , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 disks Message-ID: <20000706170801.A26780@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20000706212121.17947.qmail@web3101.mail.yahoo.com> <20000706233447.B795@freebie.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000706233447.B795@freebie.wbnet>; from wkb@chello.nl on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:34:47PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 23:34:47 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 02:21:21PM -0700, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > jkh has been working this for some time, but AFAIK there is not yet a > sensible mass production for a reasonable price for DVD. So it has not > been done yet. > > > Perhaps this is a dumb question.. but what is the possibility of putting the > > RELEASES, distfiles and all, on DVD? *shrug* > > > > Ge gentle.. ;-) > > > > -Richard Actually, in talking to Bob Bruce at Usenix, he said that they hadn't seen enough demand for a DVD version of FreeBSD to justify doing a DVD pressing. It didn't sound like it was a cost issue, but rather a demand issue. I'm sure if they could determine that there is enough demand for a DVD version, they would do it. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 16:24: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3102.mail.yahoo.com (web3102.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB5BF37B9C0 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:23:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000706232352.7387.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [150.159.224.8] by web3102.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 16:23:52 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:23:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: 4.1 disks To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- "Kenneth D. Merry" wrote: Aye.. makes sense. Despite the additional storage gained my DVD, I have not seen the influx of DVD titles like we've been promised... in terms of the general PC end user and not specifically the Unix community. In fact, the only thing I've used my DVD drive for is pumping a movie out to the TV. If it were not for the backward compatability to CDROM... I would think I'd screwed myself. I'll certainly buy a copy when we finally get the FreeBSD core, source, ports, and distfiles on DVD. To think, having all of that on one disk at my fingertips. It'd be really nice in a server farm application. Put the DVD drive on an NFS filesystem and you'd be set as long as you didn't need bleeding edge changes and updates. I'll certainly a DVD application when the means to pursue it becomes more realistic. -Richard > Actually, in talking to Bob Bruce at Usenix, he said that they hadn't > seen enough demand for a DVD version of FreeBSD to justify doing a DVD > pressing. > > It didn't sound like it was a cost issue, but rather a demand issue. > > I'm sure if they could determine that there is enough demand for a DVD > version, they would do it. > > Ken > -- > Kenneth Merry > ken@kdm.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 16:43:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE5A37B7EB for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:43:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e66NhUw86044; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:43:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Randy Waterhouse Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build PICOBSD under 4.0-STABLE In-Reply-To: <20000706172809.92769.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Randy Waterhouse wrote: > Thanks, that (and a private reply from someone else) got me past that > problem (I changed more to less), but now it's failing with: Summary of errors: > login.lo: In function `auth_pam': > login.lo(.text+0x1154): undefined reference to `pam_start' > login.lo(.text+0x116c): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' > inetd.lo(.text+0x1d88): undefined reference to `ipsec_set_policy' > ppp.lo: In function `MakeKey': > ppp.lo(.text+0xfe): undefined reference to `des_set_odd_parity' > ppp.lo(.text+0x16a86): undefined reference to `NgMkSockNode' > ppp.lo(.data+0x680): undefined reference to `ether_Create' > ppp.lo(.data+0x684): undefined reference to `ether_iov2device' > ppp.lo(.data+0x688): undefined reference to `ether_DeviceSize' > passwd.lo(.text+0x4d6): undefined reference to `yp_domain' This looks like your compile didn't add in the proper options to exclude PAM, netgraph, and YP. Try 'make clean' from /usr/src and try again. You have to be *really* careful when building PicoBSD on systems where you've been building world as the objects will overlap. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 17: 0:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9541337BAC0 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:00:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA53124; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:00:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: Brad Knowles , Daniel Frazier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:12:41 EDT." Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 17:00:57 -0700 Message-ID: <53121.962928057@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Either that or we'll just revert Dag's changes. He's not allowed to break 3.5-stable. - Jordan > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > > > Unfortunately, there are those of us running production boxes on > >FreeBSD 3.x-STABLE, and we cannot afford to upgrade these machines > >directly to 4.0-STABLE. I'm working on trying to buy a replacement > >machine, but it's not going to be here tomorrow, or this month. So, > >I need a real fix for this problem under 3.x-STABLE. > > Precisely why I brought it to the attention of the maintainer, > Dag-Erling Smorgrav. It's his code. If it's not fixed by the time I > get home I will do the necessary diffing, bring my RELENG_3 system up to > 3.5-STABLE and post a tarball of patches for you guys and ask that they > are committed. > > Brandon D. Valentine > -- > bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu > "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 17:10: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DDC37BAC7 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA53206; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: Richard Stanaford Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 disks In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:21:21 PDT." <20000706212121.17947.qmail@web3101.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 17:10:43 -0700 Message-ID: <53203.962928643@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I can't get DVDs mastered with long filenames (either Rockridge or Joliet). The replication software at the duplicators chokes on it. I've tried 4 times and failed 4 times, through no fault of my own, and the replication houses now refuse to even consider trying again. Both parties know that the replication software is broken for DVDs in this respect and neither party knows how to get it fixed. :-( - Jordan > Perhaps this is a dumb question.. but what is the possibility of putting the > RELEASES, distfiles and all, on DVD? *shrug* > > Ge gentle.. ;-) > > -Richard > > > > > --- "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > Is it decided yet what will be on the 4.1 disks? Is there room for > > > the distfiles, and is it still 4 disks? > > > > Sadly, there is no room for the distfiles anymore since even the > > packages, which are the #1 user requested items, are overflowing the 4 > > CDs. I may be able to fight and win a battle to go to 6 CDs, but > > that will only catch us up with packages and "various extra bits" > > again. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 17:10:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (zoom1-182.telepath.com [216.14.1.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E63937BAC7 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:10:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 37235 invoked by uid 100); 7 Jul 2000 00:09:39 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14693.8131.369629.705232@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:09:39 -0500 (CDT) To: Jonathan Smith Cc: Dan Nelson , Thomas Gellekum , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-Reply-To: References: <20000706102309.D20588@dan.emsphone.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathan Smith writes: > I, for one, like the functionality, and thought it kinda already worked > that way (or maybe I _made_ it work that way on my machines, cn't > remember). I would like solid facts, rather than a religious/exagerated > discussion. I agree. I first ran into this on solaris. I *like* being able to shut down subsystems in a consistent manner. This makes every bit as much sense as having "make deinstall" work in the ports tree. Cc: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG, Richard Stanaford , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 disks In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Jul 2000 17:08:01 MDT." <20000706170801.A26780@panzer.kdm.org> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 17:13:22 -0700 Message-ID: <53232.962928802@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bob clearly has forgotten all the problems we had in trying to do this at all. - Jordan > On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 23:34:47 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 02:21:21PM -0700, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > > > jkh has been working this for some time, but AFAIK there is not yet a > > sensible mass production for a reasonable price for DVD. So it has not > > been done yet. > > > > > Perhaps this is a dumb question.. but what is the possibility of putting the > > > RELEASES, distfiles and all, on DVD? *shrug* > > > > > > Ge gentle.. ;-) > > > > > > -Richard > > Actually, in talking to Bob Bruce at Usenix, he said that they hadn't > seen enough demand for a DVD version of FreeBSD to justify doing a DVD > pressing. > > It didn't sound like it was a cost issue, but rather a demand issue. > > I'm sure if they could determine that there is enough demand for a DVD > version, they would do it. > > Ken > -- > Kenneth Merry > ken@kdm.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 17:29:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from silby.com (cb34181-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.14.173.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0151537BABE for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:29:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from silby@silby.com) Received: (qmail 56868 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Jul 2000 00:29:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 00:29:16 -0000 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:29:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Silbersack To: Doug Barton Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable?] In-Reply-To: <3964B7E8.CC0E2E99@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The problem seems to stem from a corrupt /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.h If I manually delete it and make from the libfetch directory, it seems to be created properly. So, I have two lingering questions: 1. Did the tools used to create the file change? As far as I can tell, libfetch itself did _not_ change from 3.4 to 3.5. 2. Why isn't the file auto-cleaned? On the other hand, I haven't run a full buildworld yet, so it could be something else in the build process casuing the problem. Details after it finishes. Mike "Silby" Silbersack On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > Reports about this are getting more frequent, FYI. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? > Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 11:36:16 -0400 > From: Daniel Frazier > Organization: Magpage Internet Services > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > References: > > > Adam wrote: > > > > I am trying to build 3.5-stable on a 3.4-stable system of about two > > months old. /usr/src/UPDATING is empty. Can anyone throw a clue or patch > > my way? > > > > Sorry Adam, can't help you. CVSupped last night. make buildworld is > dying > for me at exactly the same point. I hope this gets fixed soon. > > ===> libfetch > compile_et /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.et > cc -O -pipe -I. -Wall -pedantic -DNDEBUG > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c > /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c -o fetch.o > In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, > from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: > fetch_err.h:6: com_right.h: No such file or directory > In file included from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.h:34, > from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c:39: > fetch_err.h:8: warning: `struct et_list' declared inside parameter list > fetch_err.h:8: warning: its scope is only this definition or > declaration, > fetch_err.h:8: warning: which is probably not what you want. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Daniel Frazier Tel: 302-239-5900 Ext. 231 > System Administrator Fax: 302-239-3909 > MAGPAGE, We Power the Internet WWW: http://www.magpage.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 17:32:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3101.mail.yahoo.com (web3101.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD53237BADC for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:32:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000707003241.7255.qmail@web3101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [150.159.224.8] by web3101.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 17:32:41 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:32:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: 4.1 disks To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > I can't get DVDs mastered with long filenames (either Rockridge or > Joliet). The replication software at the duplicators chokes on it. > I've tried 4 times and failed 4 times, through no fault of my own, and > the replication houses now refuse to even consider trying again. Both > parties know that the replication software is broken for DVDs in this > respect and neither party knows how to get it fixed. :-( > > - Jordan Oh man.. I didn't know it was *that* bad.. 8-) And here I thought long filename conflicts were a thing of that past. ... "Just when you thought it was safe to go back in to the water..." Something will get figured out. It always has in the past. I've always appreciated the effort of you, Jordan, and everyone else in keeping this project going. I have scarcely found myself able to contribute due to either a lack of coding ability, or time, or both... I find that regrettable and I am working to change that. I am looking forward to the time when I can honestly say that I'm more than a user of FreeBSD... I'm a contributer as well. -Richard __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 17:45:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lafontaine.cybercable.fr (lafontaine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8268C37BADC for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@gits.dyndns.org) Received: (qmail 9628850 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2000 00:45:44 -0000 Received: from r224m65.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([195.132.224.65]) (envelope-sender ) by lafontaine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Jul 2000 00:45:44 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24303; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 02:45:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root) Posted-Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 02:45:43 +0200 (CEST) To: Jonathan Smith Cc: Dan Nelson , Thomas Gellekum , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now References: Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C From: Cyrille Lefevre Date: 07 Jul 2000 02:45:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: Jonathan Smith's message of "Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:14:54 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Canyonlands" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathan Smith writes: > Quickie question: [snip] > To my (limited) understanding of this subject, it's not going to make hour > long boot-ups. It may increase shutdown time to do things, but, sometimes > you need to properly shut things down. If that were not the case, one > could flip the power switch instead of typing shutdown.............. what about reimplementing a fast{boot|halt} which don't runs thoses scripts a shutdown and don't runs fsck at bootup ? Cyrille. -- home:mailto:clefevre@no-spam.citeweb.net Supprimer "no-spam." pour me repondre. work:mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@no-spam.edf.fr Remove "no-spam." to answer me back. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 18: 7: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from camus.cybercable.fr (camus.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7643537BB30 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:06:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@gits.dyndns.org) Received: (qmail 9518001 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2000 01:06:51 -0000 Received: from r224m65.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([195.132.224.65]) (envelope-sender ) by camus.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Jul 2000 01:06:51 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA24361; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 03:06:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root) Posted-Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 03:06:50 +0200 (CEST) To: Steve Roome Cc: David Scheidt , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now References: <20000706173414.D1802@moose.bri.hp.com> Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C From: Cyrille Lefevre Date: 07 Jul 2000 03:06:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: Steve Roome's message of "Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:34:14 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 71 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Canyonlands" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve Roome writes: > On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:16:05AM -0500, David Scheidt wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > > > > :> > > :> Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) > > :> > > :> j/k > > : > > :I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in > > :that direction. > > > > > > HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be > > because I have boxes that take almost an hour to boot.... > > It's a general SYSVism I think, but on the whole I find it to be a > pain, most of the things that happen at startup (on my HP-UX boxes) > could happen in the background, but because someone has made them all > sequential, so that they can all put ok's or not ok's on the screen it it's the general SYSV way to run scripts sequentially, not HP-UX ones. > means that after the 15 odd minutes of hardware testing that these > machines do on bootup I then have to wait another 10 minutes until > it's really started, and the same again when I want to shutdown. > > The problem with that of course, is that I end up just calling reboot, > rather than bothering to wait for the shutdown - which is probably not > what should be encouraged. on a client machine, right. but on a server running some sort of databases... > I'd hate to see FreeBSD go the same way, it's nice to have the > information available, but having a lot of sequential startup/shutdown > scripts is a pain - and when say SNMP (early starter/stopper) hangs, > the box won't boot or shutdown until someone kills off that process, > which might involve a walk to the machine room. well, too much informations, kills informations. I'd like the way HP-UX goes. just a summary and if an error occur, look at /var/adm/rc.log for error messages. I've even implemented this under FreeBSD :) > It's a pain, and seems to be just there to look nice. (IMHO) > > Unless someone wants to do the same sort of system, but one that runs > in parallel - that I'd like. at work, I run SYSV based OSes (HP-UX, Solaris, IRIX). from my point of view, the bests startup scripts are HP-UX ones located in /etc^H^H^Hsbin/init.d and configuration files located in /etc/rc.config.d. I'd like the idea to stop/restart a service just by doing /sbin/init.d/nis.server stop/start. I although like the way to number them in /etc/rc?.d, so they start in the order you want. just like BSD /etc/rc files. but if you need to restart some services, you don't have to egrep it in /etc/rc* to find the right command and arguments like I need to do under BSD systems. it's a pain to do something like ps -ef|awk '/yp/&&!/awk/{print $1}|xargs kill if a process is missing, just do /sbin/init.d/nis.server start and it restart the missing process. no need to stop all of them to have the right way like needed under Solaris. yes, under HP-UX, a service isn't started if it's already running. PS : of course, I'm talking about HP-UX 10.x, not HP-UX 9.x which make uses of /etc/rc files like BSD does :) Cyrille. -- home:mailto:clefevre@no-spam.citeweb.net Supprimer "no-spam." pour me repondre. work:mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@no-spam.edf.fr Remove "no-spam." to answer me back. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 18:20:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FE137BB30 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:20:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA31832; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:20:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:20:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt052n3e.san.rr.com To: bjf Cc: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf In-Reply-To: <20000706133408.A412@samurai.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, bjf wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 08:19:20PM -0500, "Jeffrey J. Mountin" wrote: > > You did make sure to update all the rc. files right? > > I did, as part of mergemaster'ing. You have to update _all_ of the /etc/rc* files to the latest versions, since many of them (including rc.firewall) use the method of sourcing the rc.conf files that is now included in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. If you have old rc files that depend on /etc/defaults/rc.conf doing the recursive sourcing itself, you're out of luck. If you didn't install the latest versions of the files because you have custom hacks in them that you don't want to overwrite, please take a look at the man page for sdiff, which is what mergemaster uses to do the merging of old and new files. I believe that you will find it's easy to blend the old and new files together once you try it a time or two. Good luck, Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 18:29:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragonstar.dhs.org (dsl-028-a.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.161.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A160C37BB45 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:29:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (jonsmith@localhost) by dragonstar.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA86380; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:27:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:27:57 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Smith To: clefevre@citeweb.net Cc: Steve Roome , David Scheidt , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Personally, I've always LOVED simply setting options for the system in rc.conf and make.conf.... They are all listed, and I just change the ones I want. I hate haveing to look through LOTS of files for this that or the other config option. At the same time, I agree, it's a pain to go 'grep'n around rc.* to figure out how to bring something up. Having some startup script _I_ can run is a nice thing TM. I see _a_ soloution to the whole thing, but I let my two cents float or sink.... j. -- Close your eyes. Now forget what you see. What do you feel? -- My heart. -- Come here. -- Your heart. -- See? We're exactly the same. Jon Smith -- Senior Math Major @ Purdue On 7 Jul 2000, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > Steve Roome writes: > > > On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:16:05AM -0500, David Scheidt wrote: > > > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > > > > > > :> > > > :> Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) > > > :> > > > :> j/k > > > : > > > :I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in > > > :that direction. > > > > > > > > > HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be > > > because I have boxes that take almost an hour to boot.... > > > > It's a general SYSVism I think, but on the whole I find it to be a > > pain, most of the things that happen at startup (on my HP-UX boxes) > > could happen in the background, but because someone has made them all > > sequential, so that they can all put ok's or not ok's on the screen it > > it's the general SYSV way to run scripts sequentially, not HP-UX ones. > > > means that after the 15 odd minutes of hardware testing that these > > machines do on bootup I then have to wait another 10 minutes until > > it's really started, and the same again when I want to shutdown. > > > > The problem with that of course, is that I end up just calling reboot, > > rather than bothering to wait for the shutdown - which is probably not > > what should be encouraged. > > on a client machine, right. but on a server running some sort of databases... > > > I'd hate to see FreeBSD go the same way, it's nice to have the > > information available, but having a lot of sequential startup/shutdown > > scripts is a pain - and when say SNMP (early starter/stopper) hangs, > > the box won't boot or shutdown until someone kills off that process, > > which might involve a walk to the machine room. > > well, too much informations, kills informations. I'd like the way HP-UX > goes. just a summary and if an error occur, look at /var/adm/rc.log > for error messages. I've even implemented this under FreeBSD :) > > > It's a pain, and seems to be just there to look nice. (IMHO) > > > > Unless someone wants to do the same sort of system, but one that runs > > in parallel - that I'd like. > > at work, I run SYSV based OSes (HP-UX, Solaris, IRIX). from my point of view, > the bests startup scripts are HP-UX ones located in /etc^H^H^Hsbin/init.d > and configuration files located in /etc/rc.config.d. I'd like the idea to > stop/restart a service just by doing /sbin/init.d/nis.server stop/start. > I although like the way to number them in /etc/rc?.d, so they start in the > order you want. just like BSD /etc/rc files. but if you need to restart > some services, you don't have to egrep it in /etc/rc* to find the right > command and arguments like I need to do under BSD systems. > > it's a pain to do something like ps -ef|awk '/yp/&&!/awk/{print $1}|xargs kill > if a process is missing, just do /sbin/init.d/nis.server start and it restart > the missing process. no need to stop all of them to have the right way like > needed under Solaris. yes, under HP-UX, a service isn't started if it's already > running. > > PS : of course, I'm talking about HP-UX 10.x, not HP-UX 9.x which make uses > of /etc/rc files like BSD does :) > > Cyrille. > -- > home:mailto:clefevre@no-spam.citeweb.net Supprimer "no-spam." pour me repondre. > work:mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@no-spam.edf.fr Remove "no-spam." to answer me back. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 18:46: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from silby.com (cb34181-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.14.173.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E021037BBF0 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:45:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from silby@silby.com) Received: (qmail 43891 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Jul 2000 01:45:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 01:45:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:45:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Silbersack To: Doug Barton Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable?] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, the problem seems to stem from the fact that if I do a buildworld, I get the following: achilles# vi /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.h /* Generated from /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.et */ #ifndef __fetch_err_h__ #define __fetch_err_h__ #include void initialize_ftch_error_table_r(struct et_list **); void initialize_ftch_error_table(void); #define init_ftch_err_tbl initialize_ftch_error_table typedef enum ftch_error_number{ ERROR_TABLE_BASE_ftch = -2098765312, ftch_err_base = -2098765312, FETCH_ABORT = -2098765312, FETCH_AUTH = -2098765311, FETCH_DOWN = -2098765310, FETCH_EXISTS = -2098765309, FETCH_FULL = -2098765308, FETCH_INFO = -2098765307, FETCH_MEMORY = -2098765306, (etc) You may note that this differs greatly from what you get if you just go into /usr/src/lib/libfetch and make clean ; make. Anyone with a better knowledge of the buildworld process have any ideas? Mike "Silby" Silbersack On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Mike Silbersack wrote: > The problem seems to stem from a corrupt > /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.h > > If I manually delete it and make from the libfetch directory, it seems > to be created properly. > > So, I have two lingering questions: > > 1. Did the tools used to create the file change? As far as I can tell, > libfetch itself did _not_ change from 3.4 to 3.5. > > 2. Why isn't the file auto-cleaned? > > On the other hand, I haven't run a full buildworld yet, so it could be > something else in the build process casuing the problem. Details after it > finishes. > > Mike "Silby" Silbersack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 18:56:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC3837BCEA; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:56:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id SAA32179; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:54:27 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda32177; Thu Jul 6 18:54:13 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA45352; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdJ45350; Thu Jul 6 18:54:02 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.2/8.9.1) id e671s0I72958; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007070154.e671s0I72958@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdg72954; Thu Jul 6 18:53:49 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: Walter Campbell Cc: Linh Pham , David Scheidt , Dan Nelson , Thomas Gellekum , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Jul 2000 12:34:56 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 18:53:49 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Walter Campbe ll writes: > > > HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be > > > because I have boxes that take almost an hour to boot.... > > > > An hour to boot? Boy... the only time I ever saw a machine take an hour to > > boot (which does not include the POST/memory check/BIOS screen) was a > > 486SX/33 with 24MB of RAM running Windows NT 3.51 SP3. Of course it was > > running off of a 5 1/4" 400MB SCSI hard drive too! > > Try a Solaris 2.6 machine fsck'ing an array of 14 9.1 giggers An Alpha my team manages with 1 TB of images on UFS takes 4 hours to fsck. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 19:12:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law-f3.hotmail.com [209.185.131.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5368037BFF9 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:12:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randywaterhouse@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 48164 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2000 02:12:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20000707021216.48163.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.4.254.202 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 19:12:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [24.4.254.202] From: "Randy Waterhouse" To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build PICOBSD under 4.0-STABLE Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 02:12:16 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug White wrote: >Summary of errors: > > > login.lo: In function `auth_pam': > > login.lo(.text+0x1154): undefined reference to `pam_start' > > login.lo(.text+0x116c): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' > > inetd.lo(.text+0x1d88): undefined reference to `ipsec_set_policy' > > ppp.lo: In function `MakeKey': > > ppp.lo(.text+0xfe): undefined reference to `des_set_odd_parity' > > ppp.lo(.text+0x16a86): undefined reference to `NgMkSockNode' > > ppp.lo(.data+0x680): undefined reference to `ether_Create' > > ppp.lo(.data+0x684): undefined reference to `ether_iov2device' > > ppp.lo(.data+0x688): undefined reference to `ether_DeviceSize' > > passwd.lo(.text+0x4d6): undefined reference to `yp_domain' > >This looks like your compile didn't add in the proper options to exclude >PAM, netgraph, and YP. Try 'make clean' from /usr/src and try again. > >You have to be *really* careful when building PicoBSD on systems where >you've been building world as the objects will overlap. > >Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve >dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org Ah, that's the clue stick I needed to be hit with. Doing an rm -r * from /usr/obj and rebuilding PicoBSD solved my remaining problems. I'm sure the overlap problem is documented somewhere but I failed to see it (or it didn't sink in) when I started all of this. Thanks. RW ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 19:13: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3105.mail.yahoo.com (web3105.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA98637BE41 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:12:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000707021251.8333.qmail@web3105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [150.159.224.8] by web3105.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 19:12:51 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:12:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > An Alpha my team manages with 1 TB of images on UFS takes 4 hours to > fsck. > Now that's a bit of thrashing, eh? Jordan, or anyone else who might know.. How long does it take "our" beast (ftp.freebsd.org) to bring up 400+ GB of RAID? -Richard __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 19:16: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from silby.com (cb34181-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.14.173.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61B0A37C085 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from silby@silby.com) Received: (qmail 44099 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Jul 2000 02:15:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 02:15:51 -0000 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:15:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Silbersack To: Doug Barton Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, kris@freebsd.org, markm@freebsd.org, assar@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable?] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, the problem seems to be that the new version of compile_et which was MFC'd is creating broken header files, it just happens that libfetch is the first part of the buildworld that hits it. According to cvs: 1.2.2.2 Tue Jul 4 15:15:12 2000 UTC by assar Branch: RELENG_3 Diffs to 1.2.2.1 FILE REMOVED merge differences from -current and build this from ../../contrib/com_err Reviewed by: kris, markm Go to work, guys! Mike "Silby" Silbersack On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Mike Silbersack wrote: > Ok, the problem seems to stem from the fact that if I do a buildworld, I > get the following: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 19:20:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D03A37BA35 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:20:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 32384 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2000 02:20:32 -0000 Received: from p3ee0b31e.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.224.179.30) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 02:20:32 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA16994 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:36:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:36:40 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable (continued) Message-ID: <20000706223640.J5945@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3964B9AF.4CB89178@digitalconvergence.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3964B9AF.4CB89178@digitalconvergence.com>; from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:54:07AM -0500 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:54 -0500, Alan Edmonds wrote: > Here's the entire dhcpd config file. > > option domain-name "test.dcnv.com"; > option routers 10.25.1.1; > option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; > option broadcast-address 10.25.1.255; > option domain-name-servers 10.25.1.1; > server-name "test.dcnv.com"; > server-identifier 10.25.1.1; > default-lease-time 1200; > max-lease-time 1200; > next-server 10.25.1.1; > #option root-path "/tftpboot"; > option tftp-server-name "10.25.1.1"; > > subnet 10.25.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { > filename "pxeboot"; I'm not sure (never booted diskless stations from the net), but are relative pathnames OK? Did you try to put in the fully qualified name? > next-server 10.25.1.1; > # option root-path "/tftpboot"; > range 10.25.1.100 10.25.1.199; > option option-130 "10.25.1.1"; > option option-131 "script"; > } > [ ... ] > > dhcpd reports itself as: > > Internet Software Consortium DHCP Server V3.0b1pl13 > Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 The Internet Software Consortium. > All rights reserved. > > Please contribute if you find this software useful. > For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html > > Listening on BPF/fxp1/00:50:8b:d3:0b:ba/10.25.1.0 > Sending on BPF/fxp1/00:50:8b:d3:0b:ba/10.25.1.0 > Sending on Socket/fallback/fallback-net I would expect the daemon to listen on and to send to a "real" address (i.e. 10.25.1.1) instead of the network address. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 19:20:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56D6437C49D for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:20:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 32398 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2000 02:20:33 -0000 Received: from p3ee0b31e.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.224.179.30) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 02:20:33 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA16991 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:30:57 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:30:57 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now Message-ID: <20000706223057.I5945@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000706102309.D20588@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 12:14:54PM -0500 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 12:14 -0500, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > Quickie question: > > By implementing the 'start' and 'stop' in the local scripts, > how much should one _expect_ their systems bootup and slow down > times to take? Not at all, IMO. Or at least not in a measurable way. I don't see the (significant) difference in burdon between an if clause sequence in an /etc/rc.* and a loop over /usr/local/etc/rc.d/*.sh files. Both places can start daemons in foreground or background. I even don't see the slowdown factor in 'echo "$ESC_SEQ_FOR_OK"' versus 'echo -n "$SERVICE_NAME"'. But I do understand the difference in that the latter is wasting screen space and shoves off the screen what one might want to have read. But this thread's direction was just a joke a few people felt like jumping in for no real point. Regarding the 'stop' sequence I feel this to be no pain either. What's the difference between simply TERMing all processes and shutting down a service by a script knowing the daemon and environment better than kill? Right -- the latter has more chances to work cleanly. And BTW for most cases the stop case could be just as short. But the shutdown sequence can be obeyed. And how many scripts are lingering in the local startup dirs? What's the time penalty we're talking about here? Seconds? > I, for one, like the functionality, and thought it kinda > already worked that way (or maybe I _made_ it work that way on > my machines, cn't remember). I would like solid facts, rather > than a religious/exagerated discussion. I don't like thinking back of when I wanted to NFS export buildworld results to installworld on a different machine: How do I start an NFS server and client service? And how do I stop it afterwards? Start /stand/sysinstall, enable the service, reboot, work some minutes, disable the service in sysinstall, reboot, continue? Of course I could crawl along the rc scripts and grab together all the single commands (and I did). But it's error prone. A simple '/etc/rc.d/nfsserver start' could have done ... And for another aspect: Do you always know how to start, stop, restart, reload, examine, rotate trigger, do whatever to any service your machine's running? Think of ndc and RunCache and apachectl and friends -- they're all "masqueraded" versions of this very mechanism: how to deliver a somewhat unified interface to the admin for managing services leaving more time and resources for the real work. I cannot see where this is evil. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 19:52:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AEA37BC37; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:52:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01192; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:51:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:51:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Walter Campbell , Linh Pham , David Scheidt , Dan Nelson , Thomas Gellekum , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-Reply-To: <200007070154.e671s0I72958@cwsys.cwsent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: >An Alpha my team manages with 1 TB of images on UFS takes 4 hours to >fsck. Sounds like a good enough reason to me to port the newer NetBSD LFS code to FreeBSD. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 20: 7: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from satan.dyn.reject.org (user209-140-175-91.netcarrier.net [209.140.175.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08E1837BC80 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lint@satan.reject.org) Received: (qmail 32591 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2000 03:06:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cerberus) (lint@192.168.1.2) by 192.168.1.1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 03:06:53 -0000 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:06:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Lint^^ X-Sender: lint@cerberus To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RELENG_4 buildworld fails in binutils/libbfd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG buildworld failing right here: ===> libbfd sed -e s/NN/32/g /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/elfxx-target.h > elf32-target.h sed -f /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/targmatch.sed /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/config.bfd > targmatch.h make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. *** Error code 1 ** snip ** source cvs'd at approx. 02:30 GMT on 07Jul2000 ideas/RTFM pointers appreciated. Lint^^ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 20:20:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A072A37BC80 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:20:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.24]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:22:26 -0700 Message-ID: <39654C9D.4D0D3F95@3-cities.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 20:21:01 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lint^^ Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 buildworld fails in binutils/libbfd References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lint^^ wrote: > > buildworld failing right here: > > ===> libbfd > sed -e s/NN/32/g > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/elfxx-target.h > > elf32-target.h > sed -f > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/targmatch.sed > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/config.bfd > > targmatch.h > make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. > *** Error code 1 > > ** snip ** > > source cvs'd at approx. 02:30 GMT on 07Jul2000 > > ideas/RTFM pointers appreciated. You must have missed the **HEADS UP** that they were breaking Stable while they MFC /binutils from 5-current to 4.1. Some of those modules were changed and that might be what is causing your problem. It has been an hour since the massive changes stopped. You might try cvsup'ing again and see what happens. Kent > > Lint^^ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 20:22:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93DB37BC80 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:22:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@gordian.com) X-bait: aablmeh@gordian.com,mmblmeh@gordian.com,zzblmeh@gordian.com Received: from delphi.gordian.com (delphi.gordian.com [192.73.220.125]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18485 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gordian.com (zelda [24.0.211.45]) by delphi.gordian.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA20491 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39654D02.B2896FEA@gordian.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 20:22:42 -0700 From: Steve Khoo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.x stable make world failure: dwarf1.c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It fails with the following message. ===> libbfd sed -e s/NN/32/g /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binuti ls/bfd/elfxx-target.h > elf32-target.h sed -f /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/tar gmatch.sed /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd /config.bfd > targmatch.h make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop *** Error code 2 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 20:25:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D036437B563 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:25:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01434; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:25:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:25:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Brad Knowles , Daniel Frazier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? In-Reply-To: <53121.962928057@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >Either that or we'll just revert Dag's changes. He's not allowed >to break 3.5-stable. I just caught up on my freebsd email, I came home to your friendly neighborhood power outage. I'll spare you the rant about the local power company. I had just begun the 3.5-STABLE buildworld and was coming to the same conclusion that Mike Silbersack posted wrt to compile_et. It's not Dag's problem but rather an MFC done by assar on the 4th of July to the compile_et code which is breaking the build. If you or someone else listening could revert that then the build should stabilize once again. I've just locally reverted that change and am starting a build again and will report my results. Apologies to Dag for blaming his code. From the error messages posted that appeared to be the problem. I wasn't near a RELENG_3 box at the time to test that theory. =) Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 20:36:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from assaris.sics.se (assaris.sics.se [193.10.66.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E2337B5F6; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from assar@assaris.sics.se) Received: (from assar@localhost) by assaris.sics.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA59616; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 05:36:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from assar) To: Mike Silbersack Cc: Doug Barton , hackers@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, kris@freebsd.org, markm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable?] References: From: Assar Westerlund Date: 07 Jul 2000 05:36:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: Mike Silbersack's message of "Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:15:51 -0500 (CDT)" Message-ID: <5lem561ui8.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070098 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.98) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Silbersack writes: > Ok, the problem seems to be that the new version of compile_et which was > MFC'd is creating broken header files, it just happens that libfetch is > the first part of the buildworld that hits it. Please try the following patch. It will get comitted when my buildworld has completed (successfully). /assar Index: src/lib/libcom_err/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libcom_err/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.8.2.2 diff -u -w -u -w -r1.8.2.2 Makefile --- src/lib/libcom_err/Makefile 2000/07/04 15:13:05 1.8.2.2 +++ src/lib/libcom_err/Makefile 2000/07/07 03:35:57 @@ -9,6 +9,12 @@ SUBDIR= doc +beforeinstall: + ${INSTALL} -C -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 444 \ + ${COM_ERRDIR}/com_err.h ${DESTDIR}/usr/include + ${INSTALL} -C -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 444 \ + ${COM_ERRDIR}/com_right.h ${DESTDIR}/usr/include + .include .PATH: ${COM_ERRDIR} To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 21: 5:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75AE37BC17; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:05:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA59435; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:05:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:05:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Brad Knowles , Daniel Frazier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > Apologies to Dag for blaming his code. From the error messages posted ITYM Dag-Erling :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 21:17:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D5B37B695; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:17:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA47190; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:17:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:17:05 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Warner Losh , Adam , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: building 4.0-stable on 5-current Message-ID: <20000706211705.A47154@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <200007060554.XAA48279@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 02:22:00PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 02:22:00PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Building 4.0 on 5.0 has been broken for a while, since one of obrien's > round of binutils imports, I think. Not any more. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 21:18:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DA337BC61 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:18:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA50419; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:22:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:22:14 +1000 From: Jonathan Michaels To: Adrian Filipi-Martin Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Mark W. Krentel" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 disks Message-ID: <20000707142209.A50268@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Reply-To: jon@welearn.com.au Mail-Followup-To: Adrian Filipi-Martin , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Mark W. Krentel" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <49976.962872313@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Adrian Filipi-Martin on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:13:03AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG adrian, On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:13:03AM -0400, Adrian Filipi-Martin wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > Is it decided yet what will be on the 4.1 disks? Is there room for > > > the distfiles, and is it still 4 disks? > > > > Sadly, there is no room for the distfiles anymore since even the > > packages, which are the #1 user requested items, are overflowing the 4 > > CDs. I may be able to fight and win a battle to go to 6 CDs, but > > that will only catch us up with packages and "various extra bits" > > again. Meanwhile, the distfiles have bloated up to around 3GB > > and only the FreeBSD toolkit can possibly accomodate even a good > > selection of them, so that's what we're doing now. If you want > > distfiles, buy the toolkit. If you want basic release bits and > > packages to go with them, buy the mainstream releases. > > > > - Jordan > > I don't know if growing the CD set to 6 CD's will really make more > people happier. Maybe splitting the packages and distfiles into a add-on > set similar to the toolkit would work better. Then 2 or 6 CD sets could be > made available with the ports/package CD's updated more frequently if > necessary. actually this is the sanest idea so far, adrian. all we really need is the livefs media for checking and fixing and the installation disk (umm cdrom) with a minimal prebuilt packages (tools plus some of the big distributions sendmail bind mysql postgresql x11 vi (ok and emacs too) stuff that will get a network up and running and a sysadmin functional on a day to day basis. > From my perspective, i.e. from a well connected network, only the > first two CD's are useful. The first thing I do is set up cvsup and bring > down the latest ports. then as a seperate deal build a complete packages distribution and a complete sources distribution that would contain the cvs stuff (repositry? and so on). these packages/sources cdrom sets could be built regularly say ever 4 mths or even 6 mthly so that people could get a recent cd set and then grab a reasonable sized chunk of stuff to build thier own repositries. > I'd be just as happy buying a 2 CD set, even if the price was the > same or only marginally lower. i.e. It is actually worth something to me > to not get the extra CD's. (I'm a closet Green Party member. ;-) i'd tentatively agree in principle but would have to see how it gets implemented and as usuall finally flows out to the farest parts of teh empire here in austrlaia where it takes some 6, 8 weeks plus to get anyting -- unless one is prepared to spring for dhl, that is. to me it looks like its time to seriously think about what a freebsd cdrom distribution is, what it contains and just what its purpose in life is going to be. with lost of people enjoying adsl and stuff like that, the need for cds as 'bulk network transport media' is going to dwindle. but, thier is always going to be parts of teh world that cannot get cheap or reliab;le xdsl and a malable cdrom based freebsd distribution would be a real boon. one could subscribe to the "basic operating kit", say two cds as i outlined above and then choose wither a subscription to the "freebsd packages distrribution" - a binaries only build of the whole packages tree with all teh mods, odds and sods that make these beasties work with thhier related 'freebsd operating kit'. then one could purchase as required or if one were a developer take out a subscription to a "freebsd sources distribution" cdrom set, this would have complete repositry (compressed or otherwise) cramed ont several cds (or one dvd-rom, but as people are just getting a cdrom on every desktop the dvd would be say a luxoury item still). i believe that this sort of hierachical aproach would have some beneifits in teh long tern and could be made to work witht he vagarities of teh so called commercial market place that freebsd is being draged into (maybe kicking and screaming) slowly inexorably. this as always is just my take on the confuing world i find myself in. regards jonathan -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 21:21:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FB537B695 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:21:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA47223; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:20:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:20:56 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Kent Stewart Cc: Lint^^ , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 buildworld fails in binutils/libbfd Message-ID: <20000706212056.B47154@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <39654C9D.4D0D3F95@3-cities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <39654C9D.4D0D3F95@3-cities.com>; from kstewart@3-cities.com on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 08:21:01PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 08:21:01PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > You must have missed the **HEADS UP** that they were breaking Stable > while they MFC /binutils from 5-current to 4.1. Some of those modules > were changed and that might be what is causing your problem. It has > been an hour since the massive changes stopped. I got some dinner, and my changes have gotten back to me via CVSup. So now I'm doing a virgin buildworld to see if anything got missed. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 21:21:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4580E37B695; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:21:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01790; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:21:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:21:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Kris Kennaway Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Brad Knowles , Daniel Frazier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > >> Apologies to Dag for blaming his code. From the error messages posted > >ITYM Dag-Erling :-) My first few messages in the thread used his full name, however the message from Jordan I was replying to happened to contain it abbreviated and ad vericundium it found its way into my message. =) Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 21:25:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8540C37BCE9; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:25:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.24]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:27:24 -0700 Message-ID: <39655BD6.85A91DC0@3-cities.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 21:25:58 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: Lint^^ , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 buildworld fails in binutils/libbfd References: <39654C9D.4D0D3F95@3-cities.com> <20000706212056.B47154@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 08:21:01PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > You must have missed the **HEADS UP** that they were breaking Stable > > while they MFC /binutils from 5-current to 4.1. Some of those modules > > were changed and that might be what is causing your problem. It has > > been an hour since the massive changes stopped. > > I got some dinner, and my changes have gotten back to me via CVSup. > So now I'm doing a virgin buildworld to see if anything got missed. > The dwarf1.c problem is still there. Kent > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 21:26:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from satan.dyn.reject.org (user209-140-175-91.netcarrier.net [209.140.175.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F8A337BD12 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:26:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lint@satan.reject.org) Received: (qmail 8124 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2000 04:26:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cerberus) (lint@192.168.1.2) by 192.168.1.1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 04:26:43 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:26:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Lint^^ X-Sender: lint@cerberus To: David O'Brien Cc: Kent Stewart , Lint^^ , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 buildworld fails in binutils/libbfd In-Reply-To: <20000706212056.B47154@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG excellent. thanks for the updates... sorry about my ignorance of current events. might i ask to be CC'd the result of your buildworld? Lint^^ On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 08:21:01PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > You must have missed the **HEADS UP** that they were breaking Stable > > while they MFC /binutils from 5-current to 4.1. Some of those modules > > were changed and that might be what is causing your problem. It has > > been an hour since the massive changes stopped. > > I got some dinner, and my changes have gotten back to me via CVSup. > So now I'm doing a virgin buildworld to see if anything got missed. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 21:57: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from assaris.sics.se (assaris.sics.se [193.10.66.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A43C37B6AA; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:56:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from assar@assaris.sics.se) Received: (from assar@localhost) by assaris.sics.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA59736; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 06:56:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from assar) To: Mike Silbersack Cc: Doug Barton , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kris@FreeBSD.ORG, markm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable?] References: <5lem561ui8.fsf@assaris.sics.se> From: Assar Westerlund Date: 07 Jul 2000 06:56:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: Assar Westerlund's message of "07 Jul 2000 05:36:47 +0200" Message-ID: <5lituizgfb.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070098 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.98) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wrote: > Please try the following patch. It will get comitted when my > buildworld has completed (successfully). And my buildworld suceeded so the patch has been comitted as version 1.8.2.3 /assar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 22: 6:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBF137BD62; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:06:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02186; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 01:05:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 01:05:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Assar Westerlund Cc: Mike Silbersack , Doug Barton , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kris@FreeBSD.ORG, markm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable?] In-Reply-To: <5lituizgfb.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 Jul 2000, Assar Westerlund wrote: >I wrote: >> Please try the following patch. It will get comitted when my >> buildworld has completed (successfully). > >And my buildworld suceeded so the patch has been comitted as version >1.8.2.3 Thanks for taking care of it so quickly Assar. My buildworld has also gotten past the point it died before with that Makefile patch. Looks good. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 22: 7:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from silby.com (cb34181-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.14.173.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B7F237BA58 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:07:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from silby@silby.com) Received: (qmail 25207 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Jul 2000 05:07:15 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 05:07:15 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:07:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Silbersack To: Assar Westerlund Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable?] In-Reply-To: <5lituizgfb.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 Jul 2000, Assar Westerlund wrote: > I wrote: > > Please try the following patch. It will get comitted when my > > buildworld has completed (successfully). > > And my buildworld suceeded so the patch has been comitted as version > 1.8.2.3 > > /assar Thanks for the quick fix. LET THE BUILDING BEGIN! Mike "Silby" Silbersack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 22: 8:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net (kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F49437BF0E for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:08:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@earthlink.net) Received: from dialin-client.earthlink.net (pool1000.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.195.235]) by kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23346; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by dialin-client.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA00820; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:02:30 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Jonathan Smith Cc: Mikko Tyolajarvi , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now Message-ID: <20000706220229.B682@dialin-client.earthlink.net> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <200007062218.AAA26263@m2.dynas.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 05:39:08PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 05:39:08PM -0500, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > Then what's the problem? I think everyone is loosing sight what the "heads up" is really about. The problem is going to be that the files in /usr/local/etc/rc.d now must _pay attention_ to the argument sent to them. Right now, many scripts in there do a startup procedure when called. (period) This will need to be fixed. There _will_ be some pain. What would end up slowing you down as shutdown is when an old sshd.sh takes a few seconds to _start_ another sshd process. ;) > On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Mikko Tyolajarvi wrote: > > > Jonathan Smith wrote: > > > > >By implementing the 'start' and 'stop' in the local scripts, how much > > >should one _expect_ their systems bootup and slow down times to take? > > > > If the start/stop arguments are coded in a backwards compatible > > fashion, there should be no difference. For startup, I can see no > > reason why there should be any difference at all [1]. > > > > As for shutdown, ports that have been fine so far without doing > > anything at shutdown should just ignore the "stop" arg, IMHO. Only > > processes that really need a clean shutdown should do anything when > > given the "stop" argument. > > > > $.02, > > /Mikko > > > > 1) Ok, make that "hardly any difference" -- the rc scripts will be > > a few lines longer and contain an extra conditional of some sort, so > > they might be slightly slower ... :) > > -- > > Mikko Työläjärvi_______________________________________mikko@rsasecurity.com > > RSA Security > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 22:52:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sacrifice.ebo.net (cx939768-a.mcity1.la.home.com [24.14.133.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B547837B8D4 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:52:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ebenson@ebo.net) Received: from localhost (ebenson@localhost) by sacrifice.ebo.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA00599 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:52:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:52:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Eddie Benson X-Sender: ebenson@localhost To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 22:56:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kant.nihilist.org (kant.nihilist.org [64.6.194.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC93937BCB4; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:56:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tcole@nietzsche.nihilist.org) Received: from nietzsche.nihilist.org (nietzsche.nihilist.org [192.168.1.5]) by kant.nihilist.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e675uex31478; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tcole@localhost) by nietzsche.nihilist.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04075; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:56:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tcole) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:56:33 -0700 From: Travis Cole To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Walter Campbell , Linh Pham , David Scheidt , Dan Nelson , Thomas Gellekum , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now Message-ID: <20000706225633.A3939@nihilist.org> References: <200007070154.e671s0I72958@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007070154.e671s0I72958@cwsys.cwsent.com>; from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 06:53:49PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 06:53:49PM -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > In message , > Walter Campbe > ll writes: > > > > HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be > > > > because I have boxes that take almost an hour to boot.... > > > > > > An hour to boot? Boy... the only time I ever saw a machine take an hour to > > > boot (which does not include the POST/memory check/BIOS screen) was a > > > 486SX/33 with 24MB of RAM running Windows NT 3.51 SP3. Of course it was > > > running off of a 5 1/4" 400MB SCSI hard drive too! > > > > Try a Solaris 2.6 machine fsck'ing an array of 14 9.1 giggers > > An Alpha my team manages with 1 TB of images on UFS takes 4 hours to > fsck. At work I've watched some of our BSD/OS 4.0.1 servers go down hard while qmail had its queue totaly backed up. And when the ufs (running softupdates) 500MB /var got to fsck'ing it could take over 8 hours. (and yes, we know something was not right there, the problem has since been solved for the most part) Not fun. -- --Travis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 23:15: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC84E37B882 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:15:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA47847; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:14:56 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Bill Fumerola Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern imgact_elf.c src/sys/sys imgact_elf.h src/sys/i386/linux linux_sysvec.c Message-ID: <20000706231455.D47491@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <200007062226.PAA87109@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000706192818.W4034@jade.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000706192818.W4034@jade.chc-chimes.com>; from billf@chimesnet.com on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 07:28:18PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 07:28:18PM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 03:26:41PM -0700, David E. O'Brien wrote: > > > Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_4) > > sys/kern imgact_elf.c > > sys/sys imgact_elf.h > > sys/i386/linux linux_sysvec.c > > Log: > > MFC: Change our ELF binary branding to match the SCO (as USL) method in > > the latest SVR4 ELF spec. > > Are people going to have to do the brandelf magic to all their binaries > like we had to do in -current.. or is this a different change? Nope. I re-wrote my changes to imgact_elf.c. If anybody has any *new* problems running Linux binaries, PLEASE let me know. (and provide full error messages) Newly built FreeBSD binaries and those branded with brandelf(1) will get the new-style branding. But we can identify the old branding as well as on 3.x systems now. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 0:59: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [213.188.21.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F2F37B5F6 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:59:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Received: from localhost (localhost.flipp.net [127.0.0.1]) by freenix.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25314; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:58:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:58:28 +0200 (CEST) From: "Morten A. Middelthon" To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Cc: Doug Barton , Mark.Andrews@nominum.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND 8.2.3-T5B in RELENG_4 source In-Reply-To: <20000705121157.D6579@lucifer.bart.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > -On [20000705 11:00], Doug Barton (DougB@gorean.org) wrote: > >Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > > >> However since > >> 8.2.3-t5b has been rockstable for me for quite some time now and fixes > >> quite a few bugs which are present in 8.2.2-p5, this was a motivator for > >> me to give Paul Saab a yes on the Merge From CURRENT. > > > > FWIW, I do most of my work with DNS, and I support this change. > >Assuming that the gold version of 8.2.3 is out before 4.1-RELEASE, I'd > >like to see that included if at all possible, but more stability and > >less bugs is always a good goal. :) > > I was on purpose holding back on the MFC since I thought that 8.2.3 > would be going gold pretty soon. Unfortunately its the NT build process > which is holding the release back from being cut. From what I > understand anyways. Still, I think you should announce somewhere that beta software is being integrated into 4.0-STABLE, or that you are considering it. I don't know if there are any serious bugs in 8.2.3, but on ISC's pages they say "This is prerelease code and is not intended for production use". I can't find any posting on the -stable mailinglist mentioning anything like this. This might not be a serious problem, but to me it was very puzzling when I found out beta software which ISC discourages for production use was committed to 4.0. -- Morten A. Middelthon Freenix Norge http://www.freenix.no/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 1:44: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wysoft.tzo.com (c481444-a.bremtn1.wa.home.com [24.12.235.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935AA37B8E4 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 01:43:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wysoft@wysoft.tzo.com) Received: from localhost (wysoft@localhost) by wysoft.tzo.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e678hdO09492; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 01:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 01:43:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Wyman To: Brad Knowles Cc: "Brandon D. Valentine" , Daniel Frazier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Unfortunately, there are those of us running production boxes on > FreeBSD 3.x-STABLE, and we cannot afford to upgrade these machines > directly to 4.0-STABLE. I'm working on trying to buy a replacement > machine, but it's not going to be here tomorrow, or this month. So, > I need a real fix for this problem under 3.x-STABLE. This is too true. Though it is a bit of work, some of us still do need to keep up to date while still keeping in RELENG_3 until upgrades to RELENG_4 can become appropriate. Unfortunately, for some of us this will be longer than others :) Hell, there are many still keeping in the RELENG_2 tree. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 1:46:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE89C37BA00 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 01:45:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id KAA04481; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:45:31 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 4479; Fri Jul 7 10:45:21 2000 Message-ID: <24c7bf729bd71b904dba8ca2d38e3205@cequrux.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:47:08 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, bind-suggest@isc.org Subject: Any chance of changing struct member names in nameser.h? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I send a similar request to the KAME group a while back but got no response. Recent versions of BIND have changed the name of one of the structure members in nameser.h to be "class". Unless this is a conspiracy by C programmers to ruin the lives of C++ programmers, I can't see any good reason for this choice. The consequence, for me at least, is that I have to apply a number of patches to the FreeBSD sources before I can build a release that includes our firewall software (which is all written in C++). I'm not sure who I have to beg/cajole/beat up/give beer to to get this changed, but it really should be. gram -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 2: 9:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E06637B6F7 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 02:09:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id LAA06333 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:09:02 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 6328; Fri Jul 7 11:08:33 2000 Message-ID: <18a82ff8d91179d356d8037283bdd5d8@cequrux.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:10:21 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any chance of changing struct member names in nameser.h? References: <24c7bf729bd71b904dba8ca2d38e3205@cequrux.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Graham Wheeler wrote: > > Hi all > > I send a similar request to the KAME group a while back but got no > response. > > Recent versions of BIND have changed the name of one of the structure > members in nameser.h to be "class". Actually, I was wronng - the nameser.h in contrib/bind is fine. But the one in include/arpa/nameser.h is not, so this *is* specific to FreeBSD/KAME... gram -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 2:10:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50AA37BF8D for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 02:10:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA48471 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 02:10:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 02:10:34 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** builds will be broken for a few hours Message-ID: <20000707021033.A48407@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000706131747.A89815@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000706131747.A89815@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 01:17:47PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 01:17:47PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > I am about to import 5-CURRENT Binutils. Kernel builds will be broken > with the new Binutils, during the time it takes me to MFC the /sys/ > changes that will be needed. I declare all my Binutils and /sys changes done and the RELENG_4 world buildable. enjoy! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 2:46:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.abacus.co.uk (mailgate.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D5237B5F6 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 02:46:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antony@abacus.co.uk) Received: from abacus.co.uk (IDENT:antony@pcantony.bl.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.111]) by mailgate.abacus.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20867 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:06:22 +0100 Message-ID: <3965985E.D2E8C560@abacus.co.uk> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 09:44:14 +0100 From: Antony T Curtis Organization: Abacus Polar PLC (UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.4.0-test1-ac21 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New hardware support? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there any idea when FreeBSD will support some of the lates hardware - namely, the i810 chipset? Currently - I have to run Linux 2.4 with XFree86 4 in order to use this box but I would prefer to be able to use FreeBSD... -- ANTONY T CURTIS Tel: +44 (1635) 36222 Abacus Polar Holdings Ltd Fax: +44 (1635) 38670 Your fortune : This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 4:56:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu10.smtp.email.msn.com [207.46.181.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A0E37B973 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 04:56:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmays@email.msn.com) Received: from KenMays - 198.211.231.186 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 04:55:04 -0700 Message-ID: <001501bfe809$bac537e0$bae7d3c6@KenMays> From: "kmays" To: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" , "Linh Pham" Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , References: Subject: Re: VIA chip set Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:51:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The AMD Thunderbird boards are not as commonly found as the other boards but they are out. The Thunderbirds were reported to have some problems so it is possible that this could be a holdup. As far as I know, FIC has the boards available (the AZ11 and AZ31). Check out: http://www.fic.com.tw/motherboards/az11/az11_intro.htm http://www.fic.com.tw/motherboards/az31/az31_intro.htm Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: "Linh Pham" Cc: "Chad R. Larson" ; Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 8:01 PM Subject: Re: VIA chip set > On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > > > Does anyone know if the boxed AMD processors that they are including the > > new Thunderbird varieties? > > Almost definitely not, since the Thunderbird motherboards are a very > scarce commodity at the moment. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 5:38:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from marble.fbcc.com (ns2.fbcc.com [216.54.252.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF88637B67C for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 05:38:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: (qmail 28288 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2000 12:41:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bluto.jimking.net) (216.54.255.8) by ns2.fbcc.com with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 12:41:17 -0000 Received: from marble (marble.lgc.com [134.132.228.8]) by bluto.jimking.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA73398; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:38:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Message-ID: <00ce01bfe810$36da2510$08e48486@marble> From: "Jim King" To: "Graham Wheeler" , References: <24c7bf729bd71b904dba8ca2d38e3205@cequrux.com> <18a82ff8d91179d356d8037283bdd5d8@cequrux.com> Subject: Re: Any chance of changing struct member names in nameser.h? Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:38:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Graham Wheeler wrote: > Graham Wheeler wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > I send a similar request to the KAME group a while back but got no > > response. > > > > Recent versions of BIND have changed the name of one of the structure > > members in nameser.h to be "class". > > Actually, I was wronng - the nameser.h in contrib/bind is fine. But the > one in include/arpa/nameser.h is not, so this *is* specific to > FreeBSD/KAME... imho, the right way to handle this is in your source, using an 'extern "C"' directive to tell the compiler that it's including a C header and not a C++ header. e.g. extern "C" { #include } If the #include directive is in another header file that might be used in both C and C++ programs you'd probably want to put some '#ifdef __cplusplus' around the extern's. See section 9.2.4 in Stroustrup 3rd edition for a good example. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 5:50:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luke.immure.com (luke.immure.com [207.8.42.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C500F37BF9B for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 05:50:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@luke.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.immure.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA45878; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:50:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:50:15 -0500 From: Bob Willcox To: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" Cc: Linh Pham , "Chad R. Larson" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIA chip set Message-ID: <20000707075015.A45531@luke.immure.com> Reply-To: Bob Willcox References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from ejs@bfd.com on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 05:01:16PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 05:01:16PM -0700, Eric J. Schwertfeger wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > > > Does anyone know if the boxed AMD processors that they are including the > > new Thunderbird varieties? > > Almost definitely not, since the Thunderbird motherboards are a very > scarce commodity at the moment. What has changed with the Thunderbird motherboards? I am currently running two 700MHz thunderbirds. One on an MSI K7 Pro (AMD 750 chipset) and the other on an Abit KA7 (Via KX133 chipset) without any apparent problems on either (other than the microuptime problem on the KA7, which I originally saw with a non-thunderbird Athlon). What symptoms are others seeing? Thanks, Bob -- Bob Willcox Man usually avoids attributing cleverness to somebody else -- bob@immure.com unless it is an enemy. Austin, TX -- A. Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 6: 8:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3148D37B9A4 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 06:08:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (v-ger [158.227.6.179]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20602; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:07:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01123; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:48:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Message-ID: <3965D1B0.2E9DE117@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:48:48 +0200 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del Pais Vasco - Dpto. de Electricidad y Electronica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: es-ES, es, en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree-4 installation on -STABLE References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > > > Yes, but when you install FreeBSD 3.x, XFree86 is not installed as a > > package on which you can run pkg_delete. At least it was not when I > > did my initial install of FreeBSD 3.3. > > I believe this is now fixed. Otherwise, you'll have to just use your good > friend rm(1) > A good starting point is the PLISTs of x11/XFree86 and x11/XFree86-contrib. Taking a copy of these files to generate a shell script which removes all XFree86's files and directories is very easy. -- JMA ****** Jose M. Alcaide // jose@we.lc.ehu.es // jmas@FreeBSD.org ****** ** "Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers" -- Leonard Brandwein ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 6:12:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797A337BB76 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 06:12:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id PAA26637; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:11:29 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 26633; Fri Jul 7 15:11:02 2000 Message-ID: <3ab0baefb12d7472b9def36580f56874@cequrux.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 15:12:51 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim King Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any chance of changing struct member names in nameser.h? References: <24c7bf729bd71b904dba8ca2d38e3205@cequrux.com> <18a82ff8d91179d356d8037283bdd5d8@cequrux.com> <00ce01bfe810$36da2510$08e48486@marble> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jim King wrote: > > Graham Wheeler wrote: > > > Graham Wheeler wrote: > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > I send a similar request to the KAME group a while back but got no > > > response. > > > > > > Recent versions of BIND have changed the name of one of the structure > > > members in nameser.h to be "class". > > > > Actually, I was wronng - the nameser.h in contrib/bind is fine. But the > > one in include/arpa/nameser.h is not, so this *is* specific to > > FreeBSD/KAME... > > imho, the right way to handle this is in your source, using an 'extern "C"' > directive to tell the compiler that it's including a C header and not a C++ > header. e.g. > > extern "C" { > #include > } > > If the #include directive is in another header file that might be used in > both C and C++ programs you'd probably want to put some '#ifdef __cplusplus' > around the extern's. See section 9.2.4 in Stroustrup 3rd edition for a good > example. Great idea, except I thought of that long ago and it doesn't work. gram -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 6:19: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magpage.com (trinity.magpage.com [216.155.0.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B720937BC2C for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 06:18:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfrazier@magpage.com) Received: from magpage.com (poomba.magpage.com [216.155.24.136]) by magpage.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03391; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:18:49 GMT Message-ID: <3965D9B0.816850BE@magpage.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 09:22:56 -0400 From: Daniel Frazier Organization: Magpage Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Uhring Cc: Forrest Aldrich , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0 Stable Compile Failure References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000706135041.00bff100@64.20.73.233> <00070620523100.08450@foo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Uhring wrote: > > Suggest you look at the file with an editor like kwrite which will color the > text by syntax. I've several times found ???.c files that had one character > converted to something else, either in TCP/IP transmission or tar -zxpf from > the CD or maybe the file is corrupted in the repository. For instance, one > time, make reported a missing endif; it was caused by a /* xxxxxxx */ showing > up as /* xxxxxxx j/. Last night when I tried a make buildworld again, make > reported a syntax error before '(' in line 121 of > /usr/src/lib/libc/regex/regcomp.c. Where a space should have been was an > extraneous '('. Changed it to a space and made buildworld just fine. > > Dave Dave, FYI--a while back i was seeing the same symptoms, random characters being "wrong", and when I asked this list about it they called it "bit-swapping" and suspected bad memory. Seeing as how I had recently installed some more RAM I tried taking it back out and voila!!!, I could build again! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Frazier Tel: 302-239-5900 Ext. 231 System Administrator Fax: 302-239-3909 MAGPAGE, We Power the Internet WWW: http://www.magpage.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 6:20:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.vnet.net (smtp2.vnet.net [166.82.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB41437BD79 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 06:20:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e67DK7Z28356; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:20:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA30573; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:20:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id JAA86645; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:20:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:20:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <200007071320.JAA86645@lakes.dignus.com> To: gram@cequrux.com, king@sstar.com Subject: Re: Any chance of changing struct member names in nameser.h? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3ab0baefb12d7472b9def36580f56874@cequrux.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Actually, I was wronng - the nameser.h in contrib/bind is fine. But the > > > one in include/arpa/nameser.h is not, so this *is* specific to > > > FreeBSD/KAME... > > > > imho, the right way to handle this is in your source, using an 'extern "C"' > > directive to tell the compiler that it's including a C header and not a C++ > > header. e.g. > > > > extern "C" { > > #include > > } > > > > If the #include directive is in another header file that might be used in > > both C and C++ programs you'd probably want to put some '#ifdef __cplusplus' > > around the extern's. See section 9.2.4 in Stroustrup 3rd edition for a good > > example. > > Great idea, except I thought of that long ago and it doesn't work. > > gram Nope - it wouldn't. extern "C" doesn't mean "The following source is C code" what it means is that any external linkage generated will use C linkage conventions. For most C++ implementations, this means "don't mangle function names". The source within an `extern "C"' block has to be parsable by the C++ parser... it's still C++. For example, you can't say: extern "PASCAL" { ... pascal source ... } and expect that to work... That's my understanding of how this works, anyway... - Dave R. - -- rivers@dignus.com Work: (919) 676-0847 Get your mainframe (370) `C' compiler at http://www.dignus.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 6:30: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freecris.bmm.it (freecris.biella.alpcom.it [194.243.65.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8906037C2BC for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 06:29:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deana@bmm.it) Received: from bmm.it (cris@freecris.bmm.it [194.243.65.18]) by freecris.bmm.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00509; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:28:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from deana@bmm.it) Message-ID: <3965DAEB.85FE79BC@bmm.it> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 15:28:11 +0200 From: Cristiano Deana Organization: * * X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: it, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bjf Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf References: <20000705171719.A90791@samurai.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG bjf wrote: > > Howdy, > > I cvsup'ed to RELENG_4 last night on a couple-month-old 3.4-STABLE machine, > built and installed everything as per instructions, including mergemaster'ing. > When I was done, /etc/defaults/rc.conf doesn't read in /etc/rc.conf > settings any more, which is rather a huge pain in the ass (especially not > setting defaultrouter). The same for me. :( The problem was i didn't upgrade my rc.firewall file. It has some little differences that make your rc.conf not able to finish is procedure. Merged my rc.firewall, updated for my machine,... anc that's all right. Hope the same for you. Cris. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 6:31:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4735C37BE70 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 06:31:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id PAA28317; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:30:38 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 28235; Fri Jul 7 15:29:57 2000 Message-ID: <8fca3bbaa2f8337473c9f0334a4a5dff@cequrux.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 15:31:46 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any chance of changing struct member names in nameser.h? References: <200007071320.JAA86645@lakes.dignus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > extern "C" doesn't mean > > "The following source is C code" > > what it means is that any external linkage generated will use C > linkage conventions. For most C++ implementations, this means > "don't mangle function names". > > The source within an `extern "C"' block has to be parsable by > the C++ parser... it's still C++. > > For example, you can't say: > > extern "PASCAL" { > ... pascal source ... > } > > and expect that to work... > > That's my understanding of how this works, anyway... And your understanding is quite correct. I tried the extern "C" approach when I first hit this problem, just to see if I would get lucky and that it would allow names that are C++ reserved words, but of course it made no difference. -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 6:34:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mce-mo2.mceco.com (mceco.com [207.238.187.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F8D37BFCE for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 06:34:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ROwczarski@MCECo.com) Received: by MCE-MO2 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:34:28 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Owczarski, Rene" To: 'Rick McGee' Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: mylex BT958 card Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:34:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick McGee [mailto:rickm@imbris.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 3:42 PM > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: mylex BT958 card > > > An issue has come up with the driver for the Mylex (buslogics) BT-958 > card and 4.0 free-bsd release. > > BT0 encountered busy mailbox with 190 out of 192 commands active. > DA1:bt0:0:1:0 ccb 0xcfbcc 180 timeout > Which can lead to lockup or reboot of the system. > > After contacting Mylex, Mylex believes this error under heavy load is > being caused by the driver and not the card. > > The problem is consistant with mylex firmware 5.06I and 5.07B. > This problem shows up with drives catanated, using ccd. > > Has anyone seen this problem? If so do we have a fix. > Please respond to my email addres for I am not on this list. > > BTW, where would everyone like the CCD commands and fixes posted? > I'd like to thank everyone who helped with CCD. The pages for CCD on > Freebsd's website are in serious need of updating and several > commands and > steps are missing. > > > Rick > rickm@imbris.com > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > I had problems with my BT-958D(the same as the 958 except it's differential) as well, and after trial and error with FreeBSD, the problem was with the FW/Bios. The version you have currently seems to have some errors in it. The problem can be fixed by pulling the J1 jumper, to clear the card, and flashing a previous bios onto it. I currently run version 4.96F/5.06I, and I haven't had any problems since then. Here is a link on mylex, to the different versions of the FW/Bios that they carry for the bt-958/bt-958d. http://www7.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/mylex/solution?11=980518-0001&130=089547928 6&14=3&2715=&15=0&2716=&57=search&58=&2900=pmgIKmAExZ&25=6&3=bt%2d958%20bios Hope this helps, -Rene Owczarski System Administrator Motor City Electric To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 6:35: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from danablue.vision.auc.dk (danablue.vision.auc.dk [130.225.49.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C67237BF7C for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 06:34:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from madsp@miba.auc.dk) Received: from control.auc.dk (loke.miba.auc.dk [130.225.49.77]) by danablue.vision.auc.dk (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e67DYkw29778; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:34:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by control.auc.dk (8.9.1b+Sun) id PAA00538; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:34:40 +0200 (MEST) To: Antony T Curtis Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New hardware support? References: <3965985E.D2E8C560@abacus.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Mads Hugo Pedersen Date: 07 Jul 2000 15:34:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: Antony T Curtis's message of "Fri, 07 Jul 2000 09:44:14 +0100" Message-ID: <4w31z166p3s.fsf@loke.miba.auc.dk> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Antony" == Antony T Curtis writes: Antony> Is there any idea when FreeBSD will support some of the lates Antony> hardware - namely, the i810 chipset? I have just upgraded to XFree86 4.0.1 on my 4.0S, and it should have support for your i810 chipset. /M@ds -- If speed kills, Windows users may live forever... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 6:55:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.abacus.co.uk (mailgate.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878C337B9A4 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 06:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antony@abacus.co.uk) Received: from abacus.co.uk (IDENT:antony@pcantony.bl.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.111]) by mailgate.abacus.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06465 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:14:27 +0100 Message-ID: <3965D281.5ACDE0F@abacus.co.uk> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 13:52:17 +0100 From: Antony T Curtis Organization: Abacus Polar PLC (UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.4.0-test1-ac21 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New hardware support? References: <3965985E.D2E8C560@abacus.co.uk> <4w31z166p3s.fsf@loke.miba.auc.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mads Hugo Pedersen wrote: > > >>>>> "Antony" == Antony T Curtis writes: > > Antony> Is there any idea when FreeBSD will support some of the lates > Antony> hardware - namely, the i810 chipset? > > I have just upgraded to XFree86 4.0.1 on my 4.0S, and it should have > support for your i810 chipset. On Linux, it requires a kernel module (agpgart.o) to work and a recent linux kernel (I'm having to use 2.40-test) Does FreeBSD have an equivilent and can someone confirm that i810 does work on FreeBSD? -- ANTONY T CURTIS Tel: +44 (1635) 36222 Abacus Polar Holdings Ltd Fax: +44 (1635) 38670 Your fortune : If people drank ink instead of Schlitz, they'd be better off.  -- Edward E. Hippensteel  [What brand of ink? Ed.] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 7:19:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from marble.fbcc.com (ns2.fbcc.com [216.54.252.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BDC337B604 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:19:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: (qmail 13270 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2000 14:21:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bluto.jimking.net) (216.54.255.8) by ns2.fbcc.com with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 14:21:52 -0000 Received: from jking (jking.lgc.com [134.132.75.164]) by bluto.jimking.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA74017; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:19:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Message-ID: <003d01bfe81e$553eb8a0$a44b8486@jking> From: "Jim King" To: "Thomas David Rivers" , Cc: References: <200007071320.JAA86645@lakes.dignus.com> Subject: Re: Any chance of changing struct member names in nameser.h? Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:19:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > > > Actually, I was wronng - the nameser.h in contrib/bind is fine. But the > > > > one in include/arpa/nameser.h is not, so this *is* specific to > > > > FreeBSD/KAME... > > > > > > imho, the right way to handle this is in your source, using an 'extern "C"' > > > directive to tell the compiler that it's including a C header and not a C++ > > > header. e.g. > > > > > > extern "C" { > > > #include > > > } > > > > > > If the #include directive is in another header file that might be used in > > > both C and C++ programs you'd probably want to put some '#ifdef __cplusplus' > > > around the extern's. See section 9.2.4 in Stroustrup 3rd edition for a good > > > example. > > > > Great idea, except I thought of that long ago and it doesn't work. > > > > gram > > Nope - it wouldn't. > > extern "C" doesn't mean > > "The following source is C code" > > what it means is that any external linkage generated will use C > linkage conventions. For most C++ implementations, this means > "don't mangle function names". > > The source within an `extern "C"' block has to be parsable by > the C++ parser... it's still C++. > > For example, you can't say: > > extern "PASCAL" { > ... pascal source ... > } > > and expect that to work... > > > That's my understanding of how this works, anyway... You're right, my bad. Son of a gun, I've used 'extern "C"' for gobs of stuff but I guess I never ran into C header files that had C++ reserved words. In that case, although it's considerably more work I'd take a look at writing some C wrappers around the offending stuff. You could write the wrappers such that they'd compile with the offending include file, and be callable from C++. Sounds tedious and time consuming, but it might be quicker than waiting for someone to fix the headers in question. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 7:26:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from motgate2.mot.com (motgate2.mot.com [136.182.1.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E7D37BDA6 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:26:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from G2657C@aecs.mot.com) Received: [from pobox3.mot.com ([10.64.251.242]) by motgate2.mot.com (motgate2 2.1) with ESMTP id HAA01426 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:26:38 -0700 (MST)] Received: [from iessexm01.northbrook.aieg.mot.com (iessexm01.northbrook.aieg.mot.com [155.1.155.41]) by pobox3.mot.com (MOT-pobox3 2.0) with ESMTP id HAA26232 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:26:34 -0700 (MST)] Received: by iessexm01.northbrook.aieg.mot.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:26:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: Maududi Mansoor-G2657C To: "'stable@FreeBSD.org'" Cc: "'MAUDUDI@JUNO.COM'" Subject: FREEBSDFREE CD-ROM Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:26:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG PLEASE SEND ME FREE BSDFREE CD-ROM AND RELATED DOCUMENTATION SO, I CAN LOOK AT AND HOW EFFECTED AND GOOD THANKS MANSOOR, CONSULTANT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 7:32:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CD337C3B2 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:31:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id QAA03543; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:30:38 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 3455; Fri Jul 7 16:30:02 2000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 16:31:51 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim King Cc: Thomas David Rivers , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any chance of changing struct member names in nameser.h? References: <200007071320.JAA86645@lakes.dignus.com> <003d01bfe81e$553eb8a0$a44b8486@jking> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jim King wrote: > > In that case, although it's considerably more work I'd take a look at > writing some C wrappers around the offending stuff. You could write the > wrappers such that they'd compile with the offending include file, and be > callable from C++. Sounds tedious and time consuming, but it might be > quicker than waiting for someone to fix the headers in question. Yes, I could do that - I have done that already for curses.h. But I still think it sucks badly that there is a variable named 'class', and I still think it should be changed. -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 7:36:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wat-border.sentex.ca (waterloo-hespler.sentex.ca [199.212.135.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D566137BC92 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:36:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by wat-border.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA66277; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:36:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA22380; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:36:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000707102802.037f9100@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:32:16 -0400 To: Maududi Mansoor-G2657C , "'stable@FreeBSD.org'" From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: FREEBSDFREE CD-ROM Cc: MAUDUDI@JUNO.COM In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, You might do well to look at http://www.freebsd.org to understand where to post questions like this. The mailing list stable@freebsd.org is not the correct place to post such a question. Start at that website, and have a look through http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/index.html which has all the documentation. Also when you type all in upper case, it is taken as if you are yelling at someone and is considered rude. ---Mike At 09:26 AM 7/7/00 -0500, Maududi Mansoor-G2657C wrote: >PLEASE SEND ME FREE BSDFREE CD-ROM AND RELATED DOCUMENTATION >SO, I CAN LOOK AT AND HOW EFFECTED AND GOOD >THANKS >MANSOOR, CONSULTANT > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 7:39:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from raditex.se (gandalf.raditex.se [192.5.36.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C3437C212 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:39:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaj@raditex.se) Received: (from kaj@localhost) by raditex.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA37435; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:39:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kaj@raditex.se) X-Authentication-Warning: frodo.sickla.raditex.se: kaj set sender to kaj@raditex.se using -f To: "Jim King" Cc: "Thomas David Rivers" , , Subject: Re: Any chance of changing struct member names in nameser.h? References: <200007071320.JAA86645@lakes.dignus.com> <003d01bfe81e$553eb8a0$a44b8486@jking> From: Rasmus Kaj Cc: Rasmus Kaj Organization: Raditex AB - http://Raditex.se/ X-Face: M9cR~WYav<"fu%MaslX0`43PAYY?uIsM8[#E(0\Xuy9rj>4gE\h3jm.7DD?]R8*^7T\o&vT U@[53Dwkuup4[0@gw#~kyu>`unH?kVj9CJa02(h>Ki\+i=%rn%sDf^KC.!?IHkKjMAbkd\jgmphp^' d|Q;OeXEAhq?ybGqOs1CHb6TJT42'C`Krnk61//AOfXtNjj/t'`5>Vw0QX!dKfOL$.f+S"LIuwR<;I Z0Qnnx(F^F]o@*V%TUtEV'1Z[TkOl^FFV9Z~A[b19%}uP*,huCU Date: 07 Jul 2000 16:39:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Jim King"'s message of "Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:19:10 -0500" Message-ID: <847layqa2e.fsf@frodo.sickla.raditex.se> Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0806 (Gnus v5.8.6) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "JK" == Jim King writes: >> > > extern "C" { >> > > #include >> > > } JK> You're right, my bad. Son of a gun, I've used 'extern "C"' for gobs of JK> stuff but I guess I never ran into C header files that had C++ reserved JK> words. JK> In that case, although it's considerably more work I'd take a look at JK> writing some C wrappers around the offending stuff. You could write the JK> wrappers such that they'd compile with the offending include file, and be JK> callable from C++. Sounds tedious and time consuming, but it might be JK> quicker than waiting for someone to fix the headers in question. Here's something that *might* work: extern "C" { // For function definitions #define class c_class #include #undef class } After this, you just use the struct as usual, but call the class field c_class in your source. The name shouldn't matter, since it's just an offset in the struct anyway ... Of course, it woulde be better to have the bad header fixed, but as Jim says, that probably will take some time ... If the bad header uses any other words that is reserved in C++, they can be handled in the same way ... -- Rasmus Kaj -------------------- rasmus@kaj.se - http://Raditex.se/~kaj/ \ Pro is to con as progress is to Congress \------------------------------------------------- http://Raditex.se/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 7:47:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from weeble.dyndns.org (ubppp233-67.dialin.buffalo.edu [128.205.233.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A4337B5E4 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:47:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjm2@earthling.net) Received: from shithead (shithead.weeble.dyndns.org [10.0.0.2]) by weeble.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA16382 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:47:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjm2@earthling.net) From: "C J Michaels" To: "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:47:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFE800.A6F0B4A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFE800.A6F0B4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I cvsupped today and tried to buildworld. I received the following error: ===> doc ===> libiberty ===> libbfd sed -e s/NN/32/g /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/elf xx-target.h > elf32-target.h sed -f /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/tar gmatch.sed /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/con fig.bfd > targmatch.h make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. 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Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:49:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id QAA05133; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:48:51 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 5125; Fri Jul 7 16:48:45 2000 Message-ID: <844a7ab6971c798006f5dfcd027dba02@cequrux.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 16:50:34 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rasmus Kaj Cc: Jim King , Thomas David Rivers , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any chance of changing struct member names in nameser.h? References: <200007071320.JAA86645@lakes.dignus.com> <003d01bfe81e$553eb8a0$a44b8486@jking> <847layqa2e.fsf@frodo.sickla.raditex.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rasmus Kaj wrote: > > Here's something that *might* work: > > extern "C" { // For function definitions > #define class c_class > #include > #undef class > } Yes, that will work. Good idea! gram -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 7:56:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [12.9.219.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4514737BDE5 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:56:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Received: from HARLIE.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [12.9.219.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e67EuOb22330; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:56:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Bob Willcox Cc: Linh Pham , "Chad R. Larson" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIA chip set In-Reply-To: <20000707075015.A45531@luke.immure.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Bob Willcox wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 05:01:16PM -0700, Eric J. Schwertfeger wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know if the boxed AMD processors that they are including the > > > new Thunderbird varieties? > > > > Almost definitely not, since the Thunderbird motherboards are a very > > scarce commodity at the moment. > > What has changed with the Thunderbird motherboards? They've gone back to a socket instead of a slot-A. Of course, it's socket-A, which is different than anything that has come before it, so no preexisting motherboards will work. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 7:57:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF27E37C597 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:57:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e67EtkU14564; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:55:46 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Graham Wheeler Cc: Jim King , Thomas David Rivers , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any chance of changing struct member names in nameser.h? Message-ID: <20000707075545.E25571@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <200007071320.JAA86645@lakes.dignus.com> <003d01bfe81e$553eb8a0$a44b8486@jking> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from gram@cequrux.com on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 04:31:51PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Graham Wheeler [000707 07:46] wrote: > Jim King wrote: > > > > In that case, although it's considerably more work I'd take a look at > > writing some C wrappers around the offending stuff. You could write the > > wrappers such that they'd compile with the offending include file, and be > > callable from C++. Sounds tedious and time consuming, but it might be > > quicker than waiting for someone to fix the headers in question. > > Yes, I could do that - I have done that already for curses.h. But I > still think it sucks badly that there is a variable named 'class', and I > still think it should be changed. A really kludgy workaround would be to make a strictly C module for handling that header, then link your C++ to it. I do agree that it sucks though. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 8: 2:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luke.immure.com (luke.immure.com [207.8.42.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C373337BFF3 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:02:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@luke.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.immure.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA48107; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:02:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:02:03 -0500 From: Bob Willcox To: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" Cc: Bob Willcox , Linh Pham , "Chad R. Larson" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIA chip set Message-ID: <20000707100203.A48036@luke.immure.com> Reply-To: Bob Willcox References: <20000707075015.A45531@luke.immure.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from ejs@bfd.com on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 07:56:24AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 07:56:24AM -0700, Eric J. Schwertfeger wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Bob Willcox wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 05:01:16PM -0700, Eric J. Schwertfeger wrote: > > > On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > > > > > > > Does anyone know if the boxed AMD processors that they are including the > > > > new Thunderbird varieties? > > > > > > Almost definitely not, since the Thunderbird motherboards are a very > > > scarce commodity at the moment. > > > > What has changed with the Thunderbird motherboards? > > They've gone back to a socket instead of a slot-A. Of course, it's > socket-A, which is different than anything that has come before it, so > no preexisting motherboards will work. Ahh, that change. All of my Athlon MBs and CPUs (including thunderbird) are slot-A. I haven't even seen any socket-A MBs or CPUs yet. FWI, Slot-A thunderbird CPUs are available in the OEM channels (which is what I have), and they work just fine (for me) in Slot-A MBs. Bob -- Bob Willcox Man usually avoids attributing cleverness to somebody else -- bob@immure.com unless it is an enemy. Austin, TX -- A. Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 8:57:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from satan.dyn.reject.org (user209-140-175-91.netcarrier.net [209.140.175.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CB0837C095 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:57:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lint@satan.reject.org) Received: (qmail 1184 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2000 15:57:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cerberus) (lint@192.168.1.2) by 192.168.1.1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 15:57:00 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:56:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Lint^^ X-Sender: lint@cerberus To: C J Michaels Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG this should be fixed now... as per: >On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 01:17:47PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: >> I am about to import 5-CURRENT Binutils. Kernel builds will be broken >> with the new Binutils, during the time it takes me to MFC the /sys/ >> changes that will be needed. > > >I declare all my Binutils and /sys changes done and the RELENG_4 world >buildable. > >enjoy! > Lint^^ On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, C J Michaels wrote: > I cvsupped today and tried to buildworld. I received the following error: > > ===> doc > ===> libiberty > ===> libbfd > sed -e s/NN/32/g > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/elf > xx-target.h > elf32-target.h > sed -f > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/tar > gmatch.sed > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/con > fig.bfd > targmatch.h > make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. > *** Error code 1 > > > uname -a : > FreeBSD cartman.weeble.dyndns.org 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Fri > Jun 30 23:57:09 EDT 2000 > root@cartman.weeble.dyndns.org:/home/src/sys/compile/CARTMAN i386 > > -- > Chris > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 9: 8: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fingers.noc.uunet.co.za (fingers.noc.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9477637C1BF for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:07:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robh@fingers.noc.uunet.co.za) Received: from robh (helo=localhost) by fingers.noc.uunet.co.za with local-smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13AaeZ-000Amb-00; Fri, 07 Jul 2000 18:06:59 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:06:58 +0200 (SAST) From: fingers X-Sender: robh@fingers.noc.uunet.co.za To: Maududi Mansoor-G2657C Cc: "'stable@FreeBSD.org'" , "'MAUDUDI@JUNO.COM'" Subject: Re: FREEBSDFREE CD-ROM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Your cd is on it's way :) Please check your postbox daily :) *duck* /me On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Maududi Mansoor-G2657C wrote: > PLEASE SEND ME FREE BSDFREE CD-ROM AND RELATED DOCUMENTATION > SO, I CAN LOOK AT AND HOW EFFECTED AND GOOD > THANKS > MANSOOR, CONSULTANT > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 9:18:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5888237BC42 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:18:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e67GIUn23866 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007071618.e67GIUn23866@ptavv.es.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Parts of sendmail seem to be missing Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 09:18:30 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have not run sendmail on my systems as I receive mail elsewhere and felt that it was mostly a potential pain in the neck. As a result, I had 'sendmail_enable="NO"' in my rc.conf. For various reasons (including the fact that my system is now behind a firewall) I decided to start running sendmail and deleted that line from my rc.conf. I then CVSUPed (7/6 @ 18:00 UTC), rebuilt my system and tried to set up sendmail. Everything looked fine with the appropriate files in /etc/mail, but when I tried to invoke sendmail it get: sendmail: execing /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail: No such file or directory I get about the same error using mail(1). Any idea what is missing here? The /usr/libexec/sendmail directory exists, but is empty. /usr/src/libexec does not contain a sendmail directory at all. The man pages for sendmail are 2 years old and make no reference to any file in libexec. Any clue as to what I'm missing? R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 9:26:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (bwegner-host153.dsl.visi.com [208.42.49.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9148337C51F for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:26:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: from bone.nectar.com (bone.nectar.com [10.0.1.105]) by gw.nectar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B57B9B35; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:26:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bone.nectar.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E1C391DCD; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:26:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:26:02 -0500 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Graham Wheeler , Jim King , Thomas David Rivers , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any chance of changing struct member names in nameser.h? Message-ID: <20000707112602.A39538@bone.nectar.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" , Alfred Perlstein , Graham Wheeler , Jim King , Thomas David Rivers , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200007071320.JAA86645@lakes.dignus.com> <003d01bfe81e$553eb8a0$a44b8486@jking> <20000707075545.E25571@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000707075545.E25571@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 07:55:46AM -0700 X-Url: http://www.nectar.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 07:55:46AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > Yes, I could do that - I have done that already for curses.h. But I > > still think it sucks badly that there is a variable named 'class', and I > > still think it should be changed. > > A really kludgy workaround would be to make a strictly C module for > handling that header, then link your C++ to it. > > I do agree that it sucks though. I wasn't watching this thread closely, so excuse me if I'm stating the obvious. BIND 8 calls the member `ns_class', not `class'. FreeBSD 4.x and later do the same. Revision 1.13 of src/arpa/nameser.h maybe should have been MFC'd to the 3.x branch almost a year ago. See PR 11670. -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 9:48:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BD237BCD3 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:48:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13AbIn-0005Qi-00 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 07 Jul 2000 12:48:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:48:32 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pxeboot problems with 4.0-stable (continued) Message-ID: <20000707124832.A19840@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3964B9AF.4CB89178@digitalconvergence.com> <20000706223640.J5945@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000706223640.J5945@speedy.gsinet>; from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 10:36:40PM +0200 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gerhard Sittig probably said: > > Listening on BPF/fxp1/00:50:8b:d3:0b:ba/10.25.1.0 > > Sending on BPF/fxp1/00:50:8b:d3:0b:ba/10.25.1.0 > > Sending on Socket/fallback/fallback-net > > I would expect the daemon to listen on and to send to a "real" > address (i.e. 10.25.1.1) instead of the network address. No, dhcp listens on interfaces and also lists the networks assosicated with those interfaces. If you read that line, it's listening on fxp1 via BPF which has that ethernet address and that network associated with it. Startup messages like that are perfectly normal. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 10: 3:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tricord.system.pl (tricord.system.pl [195.205.185.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2624037C1A3 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:03:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from saper@tricord.system.pl) Received: (from saper@localhost) by tricord.system.pl (SYSTEM Internet) id TAA18199; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:03:16 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:03:15 +0200 From: Marcin Cieslak To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now Message-ID: <20000707190315.A15083@tricord.system.pl> Mail-Followup-To: Gerhard Sittig , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000706102309.D20588@dan.emsphone.com> <20000706223057.I5945@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000706223057.I5945@speedy.gsinet>; from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 10:30:57PM +0200 Organization: SYSTEM Internet Provider - http://www.system.pl/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gerhard Sittig (Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) napisa³(a): > Regarding the 'stop' sequence I feel this to be no pain either. > What's the difference between simply TERMing all processes and > shutting down a service by a script knowing the daemon and > environment better than kill? There is always one more way to do it(TM). IBM ported to AIX something resembling good ol' mainframes and it's called System Resource Controller. Most daemons are linked with special SRC library (they did it even with sendmail) which allows some communication with a daemon: the simplest form is the signal communication (plain kill(2)), but more sophisticated control is achieved with the use of pipes - SRC controller queries the process (or "subsystem" in IBM lingo) if it's running and active. One just uses "startsrc -s sendmail" or "stopsrc -s sendmail" to kick it up or down. SRC may remember which command-line arguments are to be supplied to command - in sendmail's case be it "-bd -q1h". What's even more funny, they went even deeper to support inetd, where inetd services, called "subservers", may be interactively started/stopped using "start/stopsrc -t tftp" syntax. It even comments out the relevant /etc/inetd.conf line! Of course "lssrc" command shows the current status of all subservers/subsystems showing even PID's. However, personally I prefer the usual FreeBSD rc.conf way.... -- << Marcin Cieslak // saper@system.pl >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- SYSTEM Internet Provider http://www.system.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 10:16:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C3437C043 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:16:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e67HG1M18318; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:16:01 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" , Graham Wheeler , Jim King , Thomas David Rivers , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any chance of changing struct member names in nameser.h? Message-ID: <20000707101601.N25571@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <200007071320.JAA86645@lakes.dignus.com> <003d01bfe81e$553eb8a0$a44b8486@jking> <20000707075545.E25571@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000707112602.A39538@bone.nectar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000707112602.A39538@bone.nectar.com>; from n@nectar.com on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 11:26:02AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Jacques A. Vidrine [000707 09:26] wrote: > On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 07:55:46AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > Yes, I could do that - I have done that already for curses.h. But I > > > still think it sucks badly that there is a variable named 'class', and I > > > still think it should be changed. > > > > A really kludgy workaround would be to make a strictly C module for > > handling that header, then link your C++ to it. > > > > I do agree that it sucks though. > > I wasn't watching this thread closely, so excuse me if I'm stating > the obvious. > > BIND 8 calls the member `ns_class', not `class'. > > FreeBSD 4.x and later do the same. > > Revision 1.13 of src/arpa/nameser.h maybe should have been MFC'd > to the 3.x branch almost a year ago. See PR 11670. I'm doing a buildworld right now under 3.x to test, I should have it committed asap. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 10:23:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from firebat.Bushong.NET (c128625-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.5.196.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A697437C15A for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:22:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbushong@firebat.Bushong.NET) Received: (from dbushong@localhost) by firebat.Bushong.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA53172 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:21:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbushong) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:21:59 -0700 From: David Bushong To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: wfd(4), wd(4), wst(4) Message-ID: <20000707102159.D64491@bushong.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-Floating-Sheep-Port: 0xbaa Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Before I go look silly filing a PR (or, heaven forfend, search the open PRs myself), anyone know of a good reason, off hand, why the manpages for ad, afd, and ast are still using the old 'w' names? --David Bushong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 10:31: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FEE37BCC9 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:30:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA01161 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:32:37 -0400 Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA53402 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:31:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <200007071631.MAA53402@misha.privatelabs.com> Subject: a good PCI video card To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:31:36 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With the recent advancements of the XFree86 and 3DFx support in FreeBSD, what are the recommendations for a PCI video card (no AGP slots in this box) for a dual PII-300 with gobs of RAM running 4.x? Thanks! -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 11:23:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [213.212.29.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4704737C531 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:23:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@tyfon.net) Received: from intranet.tyfon.net (intranet.tyfon.net [192.168.1.10]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E4B1C7B6; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 20:22:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 20:22:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Dan Larsson To: Kevin Oberman Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Parts of sendmail seem to be missing In-Reply-To: <200007071618.e67GIUn23866@ptavv.es.net> Message-ID: Organization: Tyfon Svenska AB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Kevin Oberman wrote: | get: sendmail: execing /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail: No such file or | directory Sounds like a mailwrapper configuration issue: man 5 mailer.conf man 8 mailwrapper | Any clue as to what I'm missing? Check you /etc/make.conf for an uncommented 'NO_SENDMAIL=true' line. If you find it uncommented this is probably the reason it's missing in your file system. | Regards Dan Larsson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 11:32:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747BD37BACD for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:32:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.226]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:50:22 -0700 Message-ID: <396617EE.1F39A43E@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:48:30 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Bushong Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wfd(4), wd(4), wst(4) References: <20000707102159.D64491@bushong.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Bushong wrote: > > Before I go look silly filing a PR (or, heaven forfend, search the open PRs > myself), anyone know of a good reason, off hand, why the manpages for > ad, afd, and ast are still using the old 'w' names? I think the wd style controller is still there for awhile. I thought you were supposed to use "man ata" for the new devices. Kent > > --David Bushong > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 11:32:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA67637B9FB for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:32:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.226]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:59:07 -0700 Message-ID: <396619FD.40AB2D1A@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:57:17 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antony T Curtis Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New hardware support? References: <3965985E.D2E8C560@abacus.co.uk> <4w31z166p3s.fsf@loke.miba.auc.dk> <3965D281.5ACDE0F@abacus.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Antony T Curtis wrote: > > Mads Hugo Pedersen wrote: > > > > >>>>> "Antony" == Antony T Curtis writes: > > > > Antony> Is there any idea when FreeBSD will support some of the lates > > Antony> hardware - namely, the i810 chipset? > > > > I have just upgraded to XFree86 4.0.1 on my 4.0S, and it should have > > support for your i810 chipset. > > On Linux, it requires a kernel module (agpgart.o) to work and a recent > linux kernel (I'm having to use 2.40-test) > > Does FreeBSD have an equivilent and can someone confirm that i810 does > work on FreeBSD? > There was some recent mail about that. Do an archive search on "Subject: Re: intel chipset810" in -questions. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 11:33: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59C537BACD; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:32:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.226]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:32:27 -0700 Message-ID: <396613BC.2965C45B@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:30:36 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** builds will be broken for a few hours References: <20000706131747.A89815@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000707021033.A48407@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 01:17:47PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > I am about to import 5-CURRENT Binutils. Kernel builds will be broken > > with the new Binutils, during the time it takes me to MFC the /sys/ > > changes that will be needed. > > I declare all my Binutils and /sys changes done and the RELENG_4 world > buildable. After that last set of mods, I can do a buildworld but now I get cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KER NEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../i386/i386/bio scall.s /tmp/ccb26172.s: Assembler messages: /tmp/ccb26172.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction /tmp/ccb26172.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/OPAL. When I try to build my kernel. Does the installworld have to be done before the kernel make. I usually buildworld, make and install the kernel, then boot to single user and do the installworld. Kent > > enjoy! > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 11:33: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6767737BF1F for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:32:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.226]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:28:05 -0700 Message-ID: <396612B5.2905C028@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:26:13 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lint^^ Cc: C J Michaels , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lint^^ wrote: > > this should be fixed now... as per: > > >On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 01:17:47PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > >> I am about to import 5-CURRENT Binutils. Kernel builds will be broken > >> with the new Binutils, during the time it takes me to MFC the /sys/ > >> changes that will be needed. > > > > > >I declare all my Binutils and /sys changes done and the RELENG_4 world > >buildable. > > > >enjoy! I can do a buildworld now but it dies making the new kernel with cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KER NEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../i386/i386/bio scall.s /tmp/ccb26172.s: Assembler messages: /tmp/ccb26172.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction /tmp/ccb26172.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/OPAL. Kent > > > > Lint^^ > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, C J Michaels wrote: > > > I cvsupped today and tried to buildworld. I received the following error: > > > > ===> doc > > ===> libiberty > > ===> libbfd > > sed -e s/NN/32/g > > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/elf > > xx-target.h > elf32-target.h > > sed -f > > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/tar > > gmatch.sed > > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/con > > fig.bfd > targmatch.h > > make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop > > *** Error code 2 > > > > Stop in /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > uname -a : > > FreeBSD cartman.weeble.dyndns.org 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Fri > > Jun 30 23:57:09 EDT 2000 > > root@cartman.weeble.dyndns.org:/home/src/sys/compile/CARTMAN i386 > > > > -- > > Chris > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 11:37:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C4C37BEB8 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:37:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e67Ibbn26577; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007071837.e67Ibbn26577@ptavv.es.net> To: Dan Larsson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Parts of sendmail seem to be missing In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Jul 2000 20:22:46 +0200." Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:37:37 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Don, Thanks! You are one of several who pointed out my oversite. I fixed rc.conf but forgot about make.conf. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 20:22:46 +0200 (CEST) > From: Dan Larsson > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > | get: sendmail: execing /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail: No such file or > | directory > > Sounds like a mailwrapper configuration issue: > man 5 mailer.conf > man 8 mailwrapper > > | Any clue as to what I'm missing? > > Check you /etc/make.conf for an uncommented 'NO_SENDMAIL=true' line. > If you find it uncommented this is probably the reason it's missing > in your file system. > > | > > Regards > Dan Larsson > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 11:41:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from satan.dyn.reject.org (user209-140-175-91.netcarrier.net [209.140.175.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A328537C499 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:39:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lint@satan.reject.org) Received: (qmail 26514 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2000 18:38:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cerberus) (lint@192.168.1.2) by 192.168.1.1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 18:38:52 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:38:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Lint^^ X-Sender: lint@cerberus To: Kent Stewart Cc: C J Michaels , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop In-Reply-To: <396612B5.2905C028@3-cities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG are you certain you're not tracking -CURRENT ? i just finished a buildworld on 4.0-STABLE after obrien's changes... everything builds fine, including SMP kernel... the kernel doesn't BOOT, however, but i have a suspicion that this has to do with my SMP settings (specifically NINTR)... i've seen some threads here regarding 4.0-RELEASE not working in SMP mode with the AIC-7899 SCSI controller, but that this issue had been resolved with -STABLE... can anyone confirm this? by the way the reason i have to guess at these kernel issues is that i'm unable to make it to the lab where the machine in question is housed... on monday i will be able to go in and have a look at it... Lint^^ On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Lint^^ wrote: > > > > this should be fixed now... as per: > > > > >On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 01:17:47PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > >> I am about to import 5-CURRENT Binutils. Kernel builds will be broken > > >> with the new Binutils, during the time it takes me to MFC the /sys/ > > >> changes that will be needed. > > > > > > > > >I declare all my Binutils and /sys changes done and the RELENG_4 world > > >buildable. > > > > > >enjoy! > > I can do a buildworld now but it dies making the new kernel with > > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls > -Wnested-externs > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline > -Wcast-qual > -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. > -I../../../include -D_KER > NEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 > ../../i386/i386/bio > scall.s > /tmp/ccb26172.s: Assembler messages: > /tmp/ccb26172.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > instruction > /tmp/ccb26172.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > instruction > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/OPAL. > > Kent > > > > > > > > Lint^^ > > > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, C J Michaels wrote: > > > > > I cvsupped today and tried to buildworld. I received the following error: > > > > > > ===> doc > > > ===> libiberty > > > ===> libbfd > > > sed -e s/NN/32/g > > > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/elf > > > xx-target.h > elf32-target.h > > > sed -f > > > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/tar > > > gmatch.sed > > > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/con > > > fig.bfd > targmatch.h > > > make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop > > > *** Error code 2 > > > > > > Stop in /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > uname -a : > > > FreeBSD cartman.weeble.dyndns.org 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Fri > > > Jun 30 23:57:09 EDT 2000 > > > root@cartman.weeble.dyndns.org:/home/src/sys/compile/CARTMAN i386 > > > > > > -- > > > Chris > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 11:49:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CA437BE07 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:49:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.222]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:51:25 -0700 Message-ID: <39662642.E78ACB03@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:49:38 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lint^^ Cc: C J Michaels , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lint^^ wrote: > > are you certain you're not tracking -CURRENT ? Yes, I don't have any aliases to track current and I don't run cvsup except from the aliases. I have one called gupstable that uses 4.x-stable... and runs it in the gui mode. This is the one I have been using on the system. Now, the make depend did a lot of strange stuff compared to what 4.0-Stable normally does. It wouldn't surprise me if the config did a 5-current depend. Kent > > i just finished a buildworld on 4.0-STABLE after obrien's > changes... everything builds fine, including SMP kernel... the kernel > doesn't BOOT, however, but i have a suspicion that this has to do with my > SMP settings (specifically NINTR)... i've seen some threads here regarding > 4.0-RELEASE not working in SMP mode with the AIC-7899 SCSI controller, but > that this issue had been resolved with -STABLE... can anyone confirm this? > > by the way the reason i have to guess at these kernel issues is that i'm > unable to make it to the lab where the machine in question is housed... on > monday i will be able to go in and have a look at it... > > Lint^^ > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > > > Lint^^ wrote: > > > > > > this should be fixed now... as per: > > > > > > >On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 01:17:47PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > >> I am about to import 5-CURRENT Binutils. Kernel builds will be broken > > > >> with the new Binutils, during the time it takes me to MFC the /sys/ > > > >> changes that will be needed. > > > > > > > > > > > >I declare all my Binutils and /sys changes done and the RELENG_4 world > > > >buildable. > > > > > > > >enjoy! > > > > I can do a buildworld now but it dies making the new kernel with > > > > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls > > -Wnested-externs > > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline > > -Wcast-qual > > -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. > > -I../../../include -D_KER > > NEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 > > ../../i386/i386/bio > > scall.s > > /tmp/ccb26172.s: Assembler messages: > > /tmp/ccb26172.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > > instruction > > /tmp/ccb26172.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > > instruction > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/OPAL. > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > > > > Lint^^ > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, C J Michaels wrote: > > > > > > > I cvsupped today and tried to buildworld. I received the following error: > > > > > > > > ===> doc > > > > ===> libiberty > > > > ===> libbfd > > > > sed -e s/NN/32/g > > > > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/elf > > > > xx-target.h > elf32-target.h > > > > sed -f > > > > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/tar > > > > gmatch.sed > > > > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/con > > > > fig.bfd > targmatch.h > > > > make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop > > > > *** Error code 2 > > > > > > > > Stop in /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > uname -a : > > > > FreeBSD cartman.weeble.dyndns.org 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Fri > > > > Jun 30 23:57:09 EDT 2000 > > > > root@cartman.weeble.dyndns.org:/home/src/sys/compile/CARTMAN i386 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html > > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > > > Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg > > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 11:53:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from satan.dyn.reject.org (user209-140-175-91.netcarrier.net [209.140.175.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F29B337BE43 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:53:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lint@satan.reject.org) Received: (qmail 16149 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2000 18:53:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cerberus) (lint@192.168.1.2) by 192.168.1.1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 18:53:18 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:53:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Lint^^ X-Sender: lint@cerberus To: Kent Stewart Cc: C J Michaels , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop In-Reply-To: <39662642.E78ACB03@3-cities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG yes that would certainly cause problems. unfortunately i'm not enough of a guru to be able to offer any better advice than ``try repulling the sources'' ... Lint^^ On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Lint^^ wrote: > > > > are you certain you're not tracking -CURRENT ? > > Yes, I don't have any aliases to track current and I don't run cvsup > except from the aliases. I have one called gupstable that uses > 4.x-stable... and runs it in the gui mode. This is the one I have been > using on the system. > > Now, the make depend did a lot of strange stuff compared to what > 4.0-Stable normally does. It wouldn't surprise me if the config did a > 5-current depend. > > Kent > > > > > i just finished a buildworld on 4.0-STABLE after obrien's > > changes... everything builds fine, including SMP kernel... the kernel > > doesn't BOOT, however, but i have a suspicion that this has to do with my > > SMP settings (specifically NINTR)... i've seen some threads here regarding > > 4.0-RELEASE not working in SMP mode with the AIC-7899 SCSI controller, but > > that this issue had been resolved with -STABLE... can anyone confirm this? > > > > by the way the reason i have to guess at these kernel issues is that i'm > > unable to make it to the lab where the machine in question is housed... on > > monday i will be able to go in and have a look at it... > > > > Lint^^ > > > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Lint^^ wrote: > > > > > > > > this should be fixed now... as per: > > > > > > > > >On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 01:17:47PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > > >> I am about to import 5-CURRENT Binutils. Kernel builds will be broken > > > > >> with the new Binutils, during the time it takes me to MFC the /sys/ > > > > >> changes that will be needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I declare all my Binutils and /sys changes done and the RELENG_4 world > > > > >buildable. > > > > > > > > > >enjoy! > > > > > > I can do a buildworld now but it dies making the new kernel with > > > > > > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls > > > -Wnested-externs > > > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline > > > -Wcast-qual > > > -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. > > > -I../../../include -D_KER > > > NEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 > > > ../../i386/i386/bio > > > scall.s > > > /tmp/ccb26172.s: Assembler messages: > > > /tmp/ccb26172.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > > > instruction > > > /tmp/ccb26172.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > > > instruction > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/OPAL. > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lint^^ > > > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, C J Michaels wrote: > > > > > > > > > I cvsupped today and tried to buildworld. I received the following error: > > > > > > > > > > ===> doc > > > > > ===> libiberty > > > > > ===> libbfd > > > > > sed -e s/NN/32/g > > > > > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/elf > > > > > xx-target.h > elf32-target.h > > > > > sed -f > > > > > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/tar > > > > > gmatch.sed > > > > > /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/con > > > > > fig.bfd > targmatch.h > > > > > make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop > > > > > *** Error code 2 > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uname -a : > > > > > FreeBSD cartman.weeble.dyndns.org 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Fri > > > > > Jun 30 23:57:09 EDT 2000 > > > > > root@cartman.weeble.dyndns.org:/home/src/sys/compile/CARTMAN i386 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > > Kent Stewart > > > Richland, WA > > > > > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html > > > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > > > > > Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. > > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg > > > > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 13: 3:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from njord.bart.nl (njord.bart.nl [194.158.170.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE7937C004 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:03:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (daemon.ninth-circle.org [195.38.216.226]) by njord.bart.nl (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e67K36X75969; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:03:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA81241; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:03:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:03:06 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Doug Barton Cc: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com, "Morten A. Middelthon" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 8.2.3-T5B in RELENG_4 source Message-ID: <20000707220306.F35215@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <200007041347.XAA20344@drugs.dv.isc.org> <20000705081722.R35215@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <3962F803.EA630208@gorean.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3962F803.EA630208@gorean.org>; from DougB@gorean.org on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 01:55:31AM -0700 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20000705 12:01], Doug Barton (DougB@gorean.org) wrote: >Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > >> However since >> 8.2.3-t5b has been rockstable for me for quite some time now and fixes >> quite a few bugs which are present in 8.2.2-p5, this was a motivator for >> me to give Paul Saab a yes on the Merge From CURRENT. > > FWIW, I do most of my work with DNS, and I support this change. >Assuming that the gold version of 8.2.3 is out before 4.1-RELEASE, I'd >like to see that included if at all possible, but more stability and >less bugs is always a good goal. :) Thanks. I held back on purpose of the MFC for a long time since I felt better MFC'ing the released 8.2.3. However looking through the code and the bugs it fixed with regard to 8.2.2-p5 I felt that this was a genuine candidate for MFC'ing. I am against early beta MFC'ing, but this one is (one of) the last release candidates before the release and solves problem I experienced myself as well as reported to me by others. I understand Mark's sentiment and will remember even more clearly with the next import(s). Last thing I want is to make his work even harder, that is certainly not my desire. If we manage to get 8.2.3 released before 4.1 goes RELEASE I will most certainly make sure it gets MFC'd just to complete the story. -- Jeroen Ruigrok vd Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl|freebsd.org] Documentation nutter/C-rated Coder BSD: Technical excellence at its best The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project En nu komt de zon, de zon komt op... En ik rij er recht op af... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 13: 5:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F80E37C508 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:05:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA39683; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:05:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:05:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt052n3e.san.rr.com To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com, "Morten A. Middelthon" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 8.2.3-T5B in RELENG_4 source In-Reply-To: <20000707220306.F35215@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > -On [20000705 12:01], Doug Barton (DougB@gorean.org) wrote: > >Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > > >> However since > >> 8.2.3-t5b has been rockstable for me for quite some time now and fixes > >> quite a few bugs which are present in 8.2.2-p5, this was a motivator for > >> me to give Paul Saab a yes on the Merge From CURRENT. > > > > FWIW, I do most of my work with DNS, and I support this change. > >Assuming that the gold version of 8.2.3 is out before 4.1-RELEASE, I'd > >like to see that included if at all possible, but more stability and > >less bugs is always a good goal. :) > > Thanks. Glad I could help. :) Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 13:36:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB18337BA21 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:36:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA30208; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:36:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA64508; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:36:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007072036.OAA64508@harmony.village.org> To: Kent Stewart Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop Cc: Lint^^ , C J Michaels , FreeBSD Stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:26:13 PDT." <396612B5.2905C028@3-cities.com> References: <396612B5.2905C028@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:36:20 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <396612B5.2905C028@3-cities.com> Kent Stewart writes: : I can do a buildworld now but it dies making the new kernel with : : cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls : -Wnested-externs : -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline : -Wcast-qual : -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. : -I../../../include -D_KER : NEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 : ../../i386/i386/bio : scall.s : /tmp/ccb26172.s: Assembler messages: : /tmp/ccb26172.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 : instruction : /tmp/ccb26172.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 : instruction : *** Error code 1 : : Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/OPAL. How are you building the new kernel? If it isn't with make buildkernel KERNEL=OPAL, it isn't supported :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 13:38:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F012537C28F for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:38:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06810; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:37:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007072037.NAA06810@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: FREEBSDFREE CD-ROM In-Reply-To: from fingers at "Jul 7, 0 06:06:58 pm" To: fingers@fingers.co.za (fingers) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:37:54 -0700 (MST) Cc: G2657C@aecs.mot.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, MAUDUDI@JUNO.COM Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, fingers wrote: > Hi > > Your cd is on it's way :) > > Please check your postbox daily :) > > *duck* > I admit this posting rubbed me the wrong way, showing evidence of someone who had not read the list any time at all. But... He also shows signs that English is not his first language. Sarcasm will probably be lost. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 13:47:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0442B37BE3A for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:47:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larse@ISI.EDU) Received: from isi.edu (hbo.isi.edu [128.9.160.75]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10706; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <396641E1.7A6A8F74@isi.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 13:47:29 -0700 From: Lars Eggert Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter van Heusden Cc: Maxime Henrion , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mouse problems with XFree 4.0.1 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter van Heusden wrote: > Sorry, no ideas, but I get the same behaviour here with 4.0.1. I'm running > a recent (about 1 week old) 4-STABLE, and my mouse is a MS Intellimouse > Explorer, with moused running (i.e. SysMouse protocol). I've tried running > without moused (i.e. USB mouse protocol), but the result is the same - > when I go back into X after having been in a virtual console, the mouse > is frozen (rest of X seems to work, though). Another "me too". This is with a Logitech MouseMan PS/2, running moused, and X protocol set to "Auto". Mouse frozen after coming back from console, restarting X makes it work. -- Lars Eggert Information Sciences Institute http://www.isi.edu/~larse/ University of Southern California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 13:50:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B776A37BDC8 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:50:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.222]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:52:36 -0700 Message-ID: <396642A8.34BC2CFD@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 13:50:48 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: Lint^^ , C J Michaels , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop References: <396612B5.2905C028@3-cities.com> <200007072036.OAA64508@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <396612B5.2905C028@3-cities.com> Kent Stewart writes: > : I can do a buildworld now but it dies making the new kernel with > : > : cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls > : -Wnested-externs > : -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline > : -Wcast-qual > : -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. > : -I../../../include -D_KER > : NEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 > : ../../i386/i386/bio > : scall.s > : /tmp/ccb26172.s: Assembler messages: > : /tmp/ccb26172.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > : instruction > : /tmp/ccb26172.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > : instruction > : *** Error code 1 > : > : Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/OPAL. > > How are you building the new kernel? If it isn't with make > buildkernel KERNEL=OPAL, it isn't supported :-) In making a 4.0-Stable kernel, is the KERNEL case sensitive? I don't have email on my test machine and started the buildkernel using kernel=OPAL. I assume that I also have to do an installkernel when it finishes. Also, does it matter when the installworld occurs. In the past, I got started installing the kernel and booting to single user mode to install the world. Kent > > Warner -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 14: 3:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB6037B864 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:03:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06948; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:02:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007072102.OAA06948@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop In-Reply-To: <200007072036.OAA64508@harmony.village.org> from Warner Losh at "Jul 7, 0 02:36:20 pm" To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:02:48 -0700 (MST) Cc: kstewart@3-cities.com, lint@satan.dyn.reject.org, cjm2@earthling.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Warner Losh wrote: > How are you building the new kernel? If it isn't with make > buildkernel KERNEL=OPAL, it isn't supported :-) Is this buildkernel target for upgrades only, or is it now the standard practice? If it is now the way to build kernels, is there a brief explanation of what it does differently than the old "cd to the compile directory and type make" method? > Warner -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 14: 4:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0360137BE7C for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:04:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e67L4Bn25532; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007072104.e67L4Bn25532@ptavv.es.net> To: Warner Losh Cc: Kent Stewart , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:36:20 MDT." <200007072036.OAA64508@harmony.village.org> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:04:11 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:36:20 -0600 > From: Warner Losh > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > In message <396612B5.2905C028@3-cities.com> Kent Stewart writes: > : I can do a buildworld now but it dies making the new kernel with > : > : [kernel build error deleted] > > How are you building the new kernel? If it isn't with make > buildkernel KERNEL=OPAL, it isn't supported :-) Warner, Does this only apply after a buildworld? I assumed that I could safely "config KERNEL; cd ../../compile/KERNEL; make depend; make; make install" any time I was simply modifying my kernel--as I always do when the xe driver gets re-installed and starts spewing out informational debug messages. (I always forget to doe this and I would love to see the distribution changed to NOT define XE_DEBUG!) R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 14: 4:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from satan.dyn.reject.org (user209-140-175-91.netcarrier.net [209.140.175.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CF4137BF78 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:04:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lint@satan.dyn.reject.org) Received: (qmail 13085 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Jul 2000 21:04:34 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:04:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Lint^^ To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: Warner Losh , kstewart@3-cities.com, lint@satan.dyn.reject.org, cjm2@earthling.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop In-Reply-To: <200007072102.OAA06948@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG the old standard method is working fine for me... i would also like to know if one method is `better' than the other, as i have no problem sticking with the old method... Lint^^ On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, Warner Losh wrote: > > How are you building the new kernel? If it isn't with make > > buildkernel KERNEL=OPAL, it isn't supported :-) > > Is this buildkernel target for upgrades only, or is it now the > standard practice? > > If it is now the way to build kernels, is there a brief explanation > of what it does differently than the old "cd to the compile > directory and type make" method? > > > Warner > > -crl > -- > Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? > chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 14:12:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6312B37BE47 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.222]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:14:03 -0700 Message-ID: <396647B0.747E66AF@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:12:16 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Warner Losh , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop References: <200007072104.e67L4Bn25532@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:36:20 -0600 > > From: Warner Losh > > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > In message <396612B5.2905C028@3-cities.com> Kent Stewart writes: > > : I can do a buildworld now but it dies making the new kernel with > > : > > : [kernel build error deleted] > > > > How are you building the new kernel? If it isn't with make > > buildkernel KERNEL=OPAL, it isn't supported :-) > > Warner, > > Does this only apply after a buildworld? I assumed that I could safely > "config KERNEL; cd ../../compile/KERNEL; make depend; make; make > install" any time I was simply modifying my kernel--as I always do > when the xe driver gets re-installed and starts spewing out > informational debug messages. (I always forget to doe this and I would > love to see the distribution changed to NOT define XE_DEBUG!) You have to remember that this all occurred after the massive changes to /binutils from yesterday. This is, I think, a starter step towards 4.1. I'm redoing the buildkernel because installkernel didn't work and I did the kernel=OPAL mistype. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 14:13:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D059537BE3E for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:13:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000707211321.CWAU15213.relay02@chello.nl>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:13:21 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA06551; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:13:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:13:21 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Kent Stewart Cc: Lint^^ , C J Michaels , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop Message-ID: <20000707231321.A6537@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <396612B5.2905C028@3-cities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <396612B5.2905C028@3-cities.com>; from kstewart@3-cities.com on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 10:26:13AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 10:26:13AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Lint^^ wrote: > > > > this should be fixed now... as per: > > > > >On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 01:17:47PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > >> I am about to import 5-CURRENT Binutils. Kernel builds will be broken > > >> with the new Binutils, during the time it takes me to MFC the /sys/ > > >> changes that will be needed. > > > > > > > > >I declare all my Binutils and /sys changes done and the RELENG_4 world > > >buildable. > > > > > >enjoy! > > I can do a buildworld now but it dies making the new kernel with > > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls > -Wnested-externs > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline > -Wcast-qual > -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. > -I../../../include -D_KER > NEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 > ../../i386/i386/bio > scall.s > /tmp/ccb26172.s: Assembler messages: > /tmp/ccb26172.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > instruction > /tmp/ccb26172.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > instruction > *** Error code 1 Can confirm this one (cvsup 2 hours ago or so): freebie#make cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../i386/i386/bioscall.s /tmp/ccsR6533.s: Assembler messages: /tmp/ccsR6533.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction /tmp/ccsR6533.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/FREEBIE. freebie# -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 14:22:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DE137BE5F for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:22:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Received: from localhost (lplist@localhost) by q.closedsrc.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e67LLKG78979; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:21:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:21:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a good PCI video card In-Reply-To: <200007071631.MAA53402@misha.privatelabs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Something like a 3Dfx Voodoo3 2000 or 3000 PCI video card would be more than enough for X. // Linh Pham // // Proud supporter of FreeBSD and OpenBSD // FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org // OpenBSD - http://www.openbsd.org /* "Oregon, n.: Eighty billion gallons of water with no place to go on Saturday night." */ On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > With the recent advancements of the XFree86 and 3DFx support in FreeBSD, > what are the recommendations for a PCI video card (no AGP slots in this > box) for a dual PII-300 with gobs of RAM running 4.x? Thanks! > > -mi > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 14:39:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA9137BE56; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:39:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 0BC909B1C; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6711BA11; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:39:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Kent Stewart , Lint^^ , C J Michaels , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop In-Reply-To: <20000707231321.A6537@freebie.wbnet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 10:26:13AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > > Lint^^ wrote: > > > > > > this should be fixed now... as per: > > > > > > >On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 01:17:47PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > >> I am about to import 5-CURRENT Binutils. Kernel builds will be broken > > > >> with the new Binutils, during the time it takes me to MFC the /sys/ > > > >> changes that will be needed. > > > > > > > > > > > >I declare all my Binutils and /sys changes done and the RELENG_4 world > > > >buildable. > > > > > > > >enjoy! > > > > I can do a buildworld now but it dies making the new kernel with > > > > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls > > -Wnested-externs > > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline > > -Wcast-qual > > -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. > > -I../../../include -D_KER > > NEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 > > ../../i386/i386/bio > > scall.s > > /tmp/ccb26172.s: Assembler messages: > > /tmp/ccb26172.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > > instruction > > /tmp/ccb26172.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > > instruction > > *** Error code 1 > > Can confirm this one (cvsup 2 hours ago or so): > Is this before or after an installworld (i.e. old or new binutils)? ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 14:46:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5939737C29C; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:46:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000707214729.DQYO8575.relay01@chello.nl>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:47:29 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA44678; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:46:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:46:24 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Cc: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG, Kent Stewart , Lint^^ , C J Michaels , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop Message-ID: <20000707234623.A38270@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000707231321.A6537@freebie.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from jedgar@fxp.org on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 05:39:21PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 05:39:21PM -0400, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 10:26:13AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lint^^ wrote: > > > > > > > > this should be fixed now... as per: > > > > > > > > >On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 01:17:47PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > > >> I am about to import 5-CURRENT Binutils. Kernel builds will be broken > > > > >> with the new Binutils, during the time it takes me to MFC the /sys/ > > > > >> changes that will be needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I declare all my Binutils and /sys changes done and the RELENG_4 world > > > > >buildable. > > > > > > > > > >enjoy! > > > > > > I can do a buildworld now but it dies making the new kernel with > > > > > > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls > > > -Wnested-externs > > > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline > > > -Wcast-qual > > > -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. > > > -I../../../include -D_KER > > > NEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 > > > ../../i386/i386/bio > > > scall.s > > > /tmp/ccb26172.s: Assembler messages: > > > /tmp/ccb26172.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > > > instruction > > > /tmp/ccb26172.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > > > instruction > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Can confirm this one (cvsup 2 hours ago or so): > > > > Is this before or after an installworld (i.e. old or new binutils)? Before. Buildworld is running as we speak/type. Will take about an hour on this box. -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 14:50:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8B237BFE6; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:50:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.222]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:51:54 -0700 Message-ID: <3966508E.3C5CD71F@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:50:06 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lint^^ Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , Warner Losh , lint@satan.dyn.reject.org, cjm2@earthling.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lint^^ wrote: > > the old standard method is working fine for me... i would also like to > know if one method is `better' than the other, as i have no problem > sticking with the old method... I have a new version of 4.0-Stable running. The buildkernel/installkernel sequence worked. Thinking of it as a crosscompile made sense since I hadn't done a installworld before configing and making the kernel. My sequence was 1 make buildworld configing and trying to make a kernel didn't work here. 2 make buildkernel KERNEL=OPAL 3 make installkernel KERNEL=OPAL 4 reboot to single user mode with /OPAL -s 4a saved /kernel and moved /OPAL to /kernel and all of the chflags. 5 make installworld 6 mergemaster 7 cd /dev and did a ./MAKEDEV all just in case :) 8 reboot I don't know if some of these steps were overkill but they worked. There are obvious cd's missing. Kent > > Lint^^ > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > > As I recall, Warner Losh wrote: > > > How are you building the new kernel? If it isn't with make > > > buildkernel KERNEL=OPAL, it isn't supported :-) > > > > Is this buildkernel target for upgrades only, or is it now the > > standard practice? > > > > If it is now the way to build kernels, is there a brief explanation > > of what it does differently than the old "cd to the compile > > directory and type make" method? > > > > > Warner > > > > -crl > > -- > > Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? > > chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net > > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 15: 0:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6443E37BE98 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:59:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e67LxPn14907; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007072159.e67LxPn14907@ptavv.es.net> To: Lint^^ Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , Warner Losh , kstewart@3-cities.com, cjm2@earthling.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Jul 2000 17:04:34 EDT." Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:59:25 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:04:34 -0400 (EDT) > From: Lint^^ > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > the old standard method is working fine for me... i would also like to > know if one method is `better' than the other, as i have no problem > sticking with the old method... As I understand things, the idea is that the "old" method of explicitly issuing a config command and then doing makes in the compile directory should work fine EXCEPT after a buildworld. The reason is that that method builds the kernel using the currently installed files, not the new objects just built. The kernel, even if it builds, is going to be out of sync with the system as soon as you "make installworld". OTOH, "make buildkernel KERNEL=name" and "make installkernel KERNEL=name" in /usr/src will build the kernel from the newly built, but not yet installed objects and the sources in the source tree. This means that you are booting the new kernel "single user" to install the new system and everything stays in sync. 1. Does that make sense? 2. Is it correct? R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 15: 2:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA9237B6A7; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:02:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@cup.hp.com) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel1.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD85BC3; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cup.hp.com (gauss.cup.hp.com [15.28.97.152]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id PAA09121; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39665347.CD235E8E@cup.hp.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 15:01:43 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kent Stewart Cc: Lint^^ , "Chad R. Larson" , Warner Losh , lint@satan.dyn.reject.org, cjm2@earthling.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop References: <3966508E.3C5CD71F@3-cities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent Stewart wrote: > > My sequence was > > 1 make buildworld > configing and trying to make a kernel didn't work here. > 2 make buildkernel KERNEL=OPAL > 3 make installkernel KERNEL=OPAL > 4 reboot to single user mode with /OPAL -s > 4a saved /kernel and moved /OPAL to /kernel and all of the chflags. > 5 make installworld > 6 mergemaster > 7 cd /dev and did a ./MAKEDEV all just in case :) > 8 reboot > > I don't know if some of these steps were overkill but they worked. > There are obvious cd's missing. This is exactly what you need to do right now. In the near future we won't require steps 3 and 4/4a anymore and thus have a single pass source upgrade... -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 15:12:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D1537C6A9 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:12:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.222]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:13:45 -0700 Message-ID: <3966556D.237B67DC@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 15:10:53 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Lint^^ , "Chad R. Larson" , Warner Losh , cjm2@earthling.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop References: <200007072159.e67LxPn14907@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:04:34 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Lint^^ > > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > the old standard method is working fine for me... i would also like to > > know if one method is `better' than the other, as i have no problem > > sticking with the old method... > > As I understand things, the idea is that the "old" method of > explicitly issuing a config command and then doing makes in the > compile directory should work fine EXCEPT after a buildworld. The > reason is that that method builds the kernel using the currently > installed files, not the new objects just built. The kernel, even if > it builds, is going to be out of sync with the system as soon as you > "make installworld". > > OTOH, "make buildkernel KERNEL=name" and "make installkernel KERNEL=name" > in /usr/src will build the kernel from the newly built, but not yet > installed objects and the sources in the source tree. This means that > you are booting the new kernel "single user" to install the new system > and everything stays in sync. > > 1. Does that make sense? > 2. Is it correct? It worked for me on the current 4.0-Stable. I have real problems committing to a new world before I test the /kernel and the buildkernel/installkernel lets me do that. I just have to get used to typing all of the extra text :). Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 15:14:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1B237BD1E for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:14:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from feta.isds.duke.edu (feta.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.76]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19760 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sto@localhost) by feta.isds.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA40030 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:14:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sto) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:14:28 -0400 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop Message-ID: <20000707181428.S39112@stat.Duke.EDU> Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" References: <3966508E.3C5CD71F@3-cities.com> <39665347.CD235E8E@cup.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <39665347.CD235E8E@cup.hp.com>; from marcel@cup.hp.com on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 03:01:43PM -0700 X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marcel Moolenaar stated: : Kent Stewart wrote: : > : > My sequence was : > : > 1 make buildworld : > configing and trying to make a kernel didn't work here. : > 2 make buildkernel KERNEL=OPAL : > 3 make installkernel KERNEL=OPAL : > 4 reboot to single user mode with /OPAL -s : > 4a saved /kernel and moved /OPAL to /kernel and all of the chflags. : > 5 make installworld : > 6 mergemaster : > 7 cd /dev and did a ./MAKEDEV all just in case :) : > 8 reboot : > : > I don't know if some of these steps were overkill but they worked. : > There are obvious cd's missing. : : This is exactly what you need to do right now. In the near future we : won't require steps 3 and 4/4a anymore and thus have a single pass : source upgrade... Folks- Let me get this straight... I have always done the following---not that this is the "right" way to do this, but it has worked pretty well for me in the past. 1) make buildworld 2) make installworld 3) cd /sys/ARCH/conf 4) config -r KERNEL 5) cd /sys/compile/KERNEL 6) make depend && make 7) make install 8) reboot Is this no longer "the way" to do it? Admittedly if your kernel build is hosed your world/kernel are out of sync, but at least, you are always building kernel with config and compiler of the same cvsup. Also, let me add to this little missive. My way works too :) I just successfully upgraded through the binutils MFC. While on this same thread, please someone tell me that when I build GENERIC, it isn't going to build all the bloody modules again ... I build a lot of different kernels, and it takes a _while_ to build even a pretty trivial kernel on a PII 233 these days :( S ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 15:27:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B78737B59C; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:27:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.222]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:29:06 -0700 Message-ID: <39665944.A63EE973@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 15:27:16 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: Lint^^ , "Chad R. Larson" , Warner Losh , lint@satan.dyn.reject.org, cjm2@earthling.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop References: <3966508E.3C5CD71F@3-cities.com> <39665347.CD235E8E@cup.hp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > My sequence was > > > > 1 make buildworld > > configing and trying to make a kernel didn't work here. > > 2 make buildkernel KERNEL=OPAL > > 3 make installkernel KERNEL=OPAL > > 4 reboot to single user mode with /OPAL -s > > 4a saved /kernel and moved /OPAL to /kernel and all of the chflags. > > 5 make installworld > > 6 mergemaster > > 7 cd /dev and did a ./MAKEDEV all just in case :) > > 8 reboot > > > > I don't know if some of these steps were overkill but they worked. > > There are obvious cd's missing. > > This is exactly what you need to do right now. In the near future we > won't require steps 3 and 4/4a anymore and thus have a single pass > source upgrade... I believe in mostly automated tasks. I just like to see what is going on and have a backdoor when something fails. This sequence gives me that feeling of comfort. You aren't committed until everything builds. I'm trying one of my real work computers now. The buildworld takes awhile. Now that I'm running using the new 7/7 source, I have to say this was a large cvsup. The funny part was that I didn't know whether to partially setup my new DSL connection or finish the install. The install won because it was a current problem and if I have a DSL problem, I can't get any help until Monday. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 15:52:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A111937BC3A for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10767; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:51:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:51:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Marcin Cieslak Cc: Gerhard Sittig , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-Reply-To: <20000707190315.A15083@tricord.system.pl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Marcin Cieslak wrote: >One just uses "startsrc -s sendmail" or "stopsrc -s sendmail" to kick >it up or down. SRC may remember which command-line arguments are to be >supplied to command - in sendmail's case be it "-bd -q1h". > >What's even more funny, they went even deeper to support >inetd, where inetd services, called "subservers", may be >interactively started/stopped using "start/stopsrc -t tftp" syntax. >It even comments out the relevant /etc/inetd.conf line! > >Of course "lssrc" command shows the current status of all >subservers/subsystems showing even PID's. > >However, personally I prefer the usual FreeBSD rc.conf way.... One could leave the current init system alone and write a set of perl scripts to read a configuration file and start and stop daemons according to what the config file says. Essentially exhibiting the behavior of your start/stopsrc commands but using simple perl parsing and exec'ing. You could probably even do it in Bourne shell if you were very clean about it, but I would prefer to parse the conf file in perl myself. This would be a much better idea than SYSV-afying our init. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 15:55:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8E237BF9B for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:55:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@cup.hp.com) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel3.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD7F11B4; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cup.hp.com (gauss.cup.hp.com [15.28.97.152]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id PAA11541; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39665FC6.8AE50F62@cup.hp.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 15:55:02 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: Warner Losh , kstewart@3-cities.com, lint@satan.dyn.reject.org, cjm2@earthling.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop References: <200007072102.OAA06948@freeway.dcfinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Chad R. Larson" wrote: > > > How are you building the new kernel? If it isn't with make > > buildkernel KERNEL=OPAL, it isn't supported :-) > > Is this buildkernel target for upgrades only, or is it now the > standard practice? I added it primarily to handle upgrades and cross-builds. Since it abstracts most of the (possible) hairy details and inter-dependencies of building a kernel by hand, I can understand that from a support point of view this is now actually the recommended way for regular users to build a kernel. > If it is now the way to build kernels, is there a brief explanation > of what it does differently than the old "cd to the compile > directory and type make" method? I haven't kept track of all the changes, so the best explanation is probably the makefile itself (/usr/src/Makefile.inc1). At this time I'll very likely misinform :-) -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 16: 9:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c1870039.telekabel.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69EC537C354 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:09:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA28395 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:09:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <39666373.CF27AA36@nisser.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 01:10:43 +0200 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: eboa - engineering buro Office Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DHCP problem with 4.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently installed a 4.0 system for a client. Hooked up to the Net by way of a cable modem. At the time with static IP adresses. Unfortunately due to circumstances the client needed a new modem and got forcefed one that works with DHCP. Unfortunately in that it has been about three years since I last did something with DHCP and that was on a Slackware Linux system. I installed it more or less correctly based on the manpages. At first manually overriding the routes. Of course after "dhclient -D ed0" had done its thing. At that point I saw the modem lights light up when I pinged the gateway, even though I got no replies. So I decided to bite the bullet, used /stand/sysinstall to reconfigere rc.conf, reset the box and see what happenned. Nothing much, as it turned out. In fact the modem light didn't even light up as before. Though I could detect no significant difference in either the ifconfig or the routing tables. Decided to return to the office and study what docs I could find. Unfortunately, most of it is for 2.x or 3.x. Like the otherwise excellent http://freebsd.simplenet.com/dhcp.html. Checked the FAQ, did a scan though the days crop of maillist messages as well as a search though the lists. All to no avail. So I hit the list with my query: What's wrong. In the hope that some kind soul will provide insight or even answers. Here are some specs. But first, checking the dhcp.html doc I phoned the client and let him do a grep through both LINT and his kernel config. There were no occurences of 'bpfilter' in either. Even though four devices were present. Which, of course, leads me to doubt the applicability of dhcp.html to RELENG_4 (Don't know the exact version and can't look it up since its connection is unoperable :). Next, the specs as written down (boy, do I miss that connection :). netstat -rn: Destination Gateway Flags Netif ----------------- ------------- ----- ------ default 213.93.21.193 UGSc ed0 213.93.21.192/26 link#2 UC ed0 => 213.93.21.193 link#2 UHLW ed0 => ifconfig ed0: ed0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 213.93.21.199 netmask 0xfffffffc broadcast 213.93.21.255 ether ... as per /stand/sysinstall: ifconfig_ed0="inet netmask 255.255.255.0" defaultrouter="213.90.21.193" hostname="intraction.org" to activate (interactively): dhclient -D ed0 Since I've learned that defaultrouter should be set to "NO". Needless to say the lease looks fine as does the output of dhclient. What does not work fine is the end result. Does anyone know what step(s) I'm missing? Roelof -- Dog's place @ http://cairni.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 16:18:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F0237B781 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:18:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18172; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:17:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA42847; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:17:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007072317.QAA42847@vashon.polstra.com> To: duhring@charter.net Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0 Stable Compile Failure In-Reply-To: <00070620523100.08450@foo> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000706135041.00bff100@64.20.73.233> <00070620523100.08450@foo> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <00070620523100.08450@foo>, David Uhring wrote: > Suggest you look at the file with an editor like kwrite which > will color the text by syntax. I've several times found ???.c > files that had one character converted to something else, either > in TCP/IP transmission or tar -zxpf from the CD or maybe the file > is corrupted in the repository. For instance, one time, make > reported a missing endif; it was caused by a /* xxxxxxx */ showing > up as /* xxxxxxx j/. Last night when I tried a make buildworld > again, make reported a syntax error before '(' in line 121 of > /usr/src/lib/libc/regex/regcomp.c. Where a space should have been > was an extraneous '('. Changed it to a space and made buildworld > just fine. You've got hardware problems. "*" and "j" are identical except for 1 bit. That's a classic sign of bad RAM or cache. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 16:18:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5659037B781; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:18:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA61722; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:18:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:18:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Jeff Wyman Cc: Brad Knowles , "Brandon D. Valentine" , Daniel Frazier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Jeff Wyman wrote: > This is too true. Though it is a bit of work, some of us still do need to > keep up to date while still keeping in RELENG_3 until upgrades to RELENG_4 > can become appropriate. Unfortunately, for some of us this will be longer > than others :) Let me say this again: this was necessary and temporary breakage in RELENG_3 which is actively being addressed (has already been addressed - except possibly for the MAKE_KERBEROS4=1 case, which I'm still waiting for confirmation on). While it might be annoying for the first few people who bump into the problem before it becomes publically known (to my mind, if you try and do a buildworld when there's a mailbox full of people saying "can't build 3.5-stable?" you're not exactly making full use of the available information at your fingertips :-), for the rest of you it's hardly going to be the end of your business if you can't build 3.5-stable for one or two days. So now that we've got this all sorted out, if anyone is still having 3.5 build problems then please let me and Assar know about them..thanks. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 16:35:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [209.67.240.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B8937BDB4; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:35:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@rentul.net) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D12A3D34; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF5C5BC4; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:36:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Lutner X-Sender: sean@lowrider.lewman.org To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Kent Stewart , Lint^^ , C J Michaels , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop In-Reply-To: <20000707231321.A6537@freebie.wbnet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 10:26:13AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > > Lint^^ wrote: > > > > > > this should be fixed now... as per: > > > > > > >On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 01:17:47PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > >> I am about to import 5-CURRENT Binutils. Kernel builds will be broken > > > >> with the new Binutils, during the time it takes me to MFC the /sys/ > > > >> changes that will be needed. > > > > > > > > > > > >I declare all my Binutils and /sys changes done and the RELENG_4 world > > > >buildable. > > > > > > > >enjoy! > > > > I can do a buildworld now but it dies making the new kernel with > > > > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls > > -Wnested-externs > > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline > > -Wcast-qual > > -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. > > -I../../../include -D_KER > > NEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 > > ../../i386/i386/bio > > scall.s > > /tmp/ccb26172.s: Assembler messages: > > /tmp/ccb26172.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > > instruction > > /tmp/ccb26172.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > > instruction > > *** Error code 1 > > Can confirm this one (cvsup 2 hours ago or so): > > freebie#make > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls > -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith > -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. > -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../i386/i386/bioscall.s > /tmp/ccsR6533.s: Assembler messages: > /tmp/ccsR6533.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > instruction > /tmp/ccsR6533.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > instruction > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/FREEBIE. > freebie# I unfortuneately don't have the output these guys have, but I saw the same thing while doing a buildworld today. I was going from 4.0-RELEASE to 4.0-STABLE. I got the same error message. > > > -- > Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" > wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 16:42:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front002.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2997F37BD6B; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:42:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front002.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 12595486; Fri, 07 Jul 2000 19:41:44 -0400 From: David Uhring To: stable@freebsd.org, John Polstra , duhring@charter.net Subject: Re: 4.0 Stable Compile Failure Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:39:58 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: stable@freebsd.org References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000706135041.00bff100@64.20.73.233> <00070620523100.08450@foo> <200007072317.QAA42847@vashon.polstra.com> In-Reply-To: <200007072317.QAA42847@vashon.polstra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00070718423800.00819@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 07 Jul 2000, John Polstra wrote: > In article <00070620523100.08450@foo>, David Uhring > wrote: > > > Suggest you look at the file with an editor like kwrite which > > will color the text by syntax. I've several times found ???.c > > files that had one character converted to something else, either > > in TCP/IP transmission or tar -zxpf from the CD or maybe the file > > is corrupted in the repository. For instance, one time, make > > reported a missing endif; it was caused by a /* xxxxxxx */ showing > > up as /* xxxxxxx j/. Last night when I tried a make buildworld > > again, make reported a syntax error before '(' in line 121 of > > /usr/src/lib/libc/regex/regcomp.c. Where a space should have been > > was an extraneous '('. Changed it to a space and made buildworld > > just fine. > > You've got hardware problems. "*" and "j" are identical except for > 1 bit. That's a classic sign of bad RAM or cache. > > John > -- > John Polstra jdp@polstra.com > John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA > "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa It's been so many years since I did any assembly language programming, I forgot most of ASCII. Thanks for pointing this out. I'll shut the box down and boot up memtest-86 and let it run for a while. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 17:19:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5819537B73D for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:19:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13AiKp-0000Du-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 07 Jul 2000 20:19:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 20:19:06 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now Message-ID: <20000707201906.B28025@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000707190315.A15083@tricord.system.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from bandix@looksharp.net on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 06:51:01PM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Brandon D. Valentine" probably said: > One could leave the current init system alone and write a set of perl > scripts to read a configuration file and start and stop daemons > according to what the config file says. Requiring perl for start/stop ? Can I just say; EWWW ! Personally I like the SYSV style start/stop in general and it can be done perfectly cleanly in sh. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 17:30:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22DD37BCDE for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:30:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03901; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:30:11 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Roelof Osinga Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DHCP problem with 4.0 Message-ID: <20000707173011.A3544@orion.ac.hmc.edu> References: <39666373.CF27AA36@nisser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: <39666373.CF27AA36@nisser.com>; from roelof@nisser.com on Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 01:10:43AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 01:10:43AM +0200, Roelof Osinga wrote: > I recently installed a 4.0 system for a client. Hooked up to the > Net by way of a cable modem. At the time with static IP adresses. > Unfortunately due to circumstances the client needed a new modem > and got forcefed one that works with DHCP. Unfortunately in that > it has been about three years since I last did something with > DHCP and that was on a Slackware Linux system. > > I installed it more or less correctly based on the manpages. At > first manually overriding the routes. Of course after "dhclient > -D ed0" had done its thing. At that point I saw the modem lights > light up when I pinged the gateway, even though I got no replies. > > So I decided to bite the bullet, used /stand/sysinstall to > reconfigere rc.conf, reset the box and see what happenned. Nothing > much, as it turned out. In fact the modem light didn't even light > up as before. Though I could detect no significant difference in > either the ifconfig or the routing tables. > > Decided to return to the office and study what docs I could find. > Unfortunately, most of it is for 2.x or 3.x. Like the otherwise > excellent http://freebsd.simplenet.com/dhcp.html. Checked the FAQ, > did a scan though the days crop of maillist messages as well as a > search though the lists. All to no avail. That URL is only applicable to 2.x and earlier 3.x releases. DHCP support is now standard in FreeBSD. You must have the following entry in your kernel config file (under 4.0): pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter To configure the system to use DHCP just edit the ifconfig line in your /etc/rc.conf to look like: ifconfig_ed0="DHCP" Don't set any other network related things in the config file unless you're DHCP server is misconfigured and doesn't tell you about them. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 18:10:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABFC37B6A2 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:10:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA47293; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:09:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:09:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt052n3e.san.rr.com To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: Jonathan Smith , Mikko Tyolajarvi , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-Reply-To: <20000706220229.B682@dialin-client.earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Crist J. Clark wrote: > On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 05:39:08PM -0500, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > > > Then what's the problem? > > I think everyone is loosing sight what the "heads up" is really > about. The problem is going to be that the files in > /usr/local/etc/rc.d now must _pay attention_ to the argument sent to > them. Right now, many scripts in there do a startup procedure when > called. (period) This will need to be fixed. There _will_ be some > pain. And what some of us are saying is that the pain is not a requirement to make this feature work. There are ways to accomplish the goal that this proposal wants to accomplish without all of the "pain" that suddenly changing everything around will engender. Please don't get me wrong here, I fully support the sysv style start/stop/status parms for rc scripts. In fact, I have grander plans than the ones proposed here for the startup scripts in /etc. However, if we give this plan some more thought we can definitely come up with a solution that does what we need/want it to do without throwing everything into a tizzy first. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 19:37:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D066937B6A2 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:37:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA86686; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:37:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:37:30 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Kent Stewart Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** builds will be broken for a few hours Message-ID: <20000707193730.B86552@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000706131747.A89815@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000707021033.A48407@dragon.nuxi.com> <396613BC.2965C45B@3-cities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <396613BC.2965C45B@3-cities.com>; from kstewart@3-cities.com on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 10:30:36AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 10:30:36AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > After that last set of mods, I can do a buildworld but now I get > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls ... > /tmp/ccb26172.s: Assembler messages: > /tmp/ccb26172.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > instruction > /tmp/ccb26172.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > instruction > *** Error code 1 ... > When I try to build my kernel. Does the installworld have to be done > before the kernel make. Yes in this case. Either that or use the ``make buildkernel'' target w/in /usr/src. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 19:40:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hecky.it.northwestern.edu (hecky.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCE937BC3A for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:40:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djkanter@northwestern.edu) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by hecky.it.northwestern.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA09417 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:40:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (coconut-37-028057.nuts.nwu.edu [165.124.28.57]) by hecky.acns.nwu.edu via smap (V2.0) id xma009345; Fri, 7 Jul 00 21:39:55 -0500 Received: (from david@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05252 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:38:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:38:41 -0500 From: "David J. Kanter" To: FreeBSD stable Subject: UPDATING is confusing me Message-ID: <20000707213841.A5215@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Organization: Northwestern University X-Operating-System: FreeBSD localhost.localdomain 3.5-STABLE FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The latest RELENG_4 UPDATING (version 1.73.2.6) file is confusing me because I don't know how much of the historical information applies to someone like me, who wants to upgrade from 3.5-Stable to 4.0-Stable. Perhaps I don't understand the concept of UPDATING (it's always been a blank file during my upgrades): Why is there months-old historical information that is necessary for me to follow, even though my sources (albeit 3.5) are very current? Here's an example: The note for 19991218 has sendmail.cf moved to /etc/mail, but my system works perfectly fine with sendmail.cf in /etc. And another: The note for 19991210 has the wd driver replaced with the ata driver, but my machine works fine with the wd driver. My system started with an install from the 3.4-Release CD-ROM a few months ago, then went to 3.4-Stable and then 3.5-Stable via source upgrades. How far back do I need to go in the historical information? Is this historical information taken from when 4.X was -current, and that's why the dates don't match up for me, who was tracking 3.X? -- David Kanter djkanter@northwestern.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 20:37:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F9A37B6B0 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 20:37:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA12978; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:37:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:37:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: "David J. Kanter" Cc: FreeBSD stable Subject: Re: UPDATING is confusing me In-Reply-To: <20000707213841.A5215@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, David J. Kanter wrote: >The latest RELENG_4 UPDATING (version 1.73.2.6) file is confusing me because >I don't know how much of the historical information applies to someone like >me, who wants to upgrade from 3.5-Stable to 4.0-Stable. Perhaps I don't >understand the concept of UPDATING (it's always been a blank file during my >upgrades): Why is there months-old historical information that is necessary >for me to follow, even though my sources (albeit 3.5) are very current? > >Here's an example: The note for 19991218 has sendmail.cf moved to /etc/mail, >but my system works perfectly fine with sendmail.cf in /etc. > >And another: The note for 19991210 has the wd driver replaced with the ata >driver, but my machine works fine with the wd driver. > >My system started with an install from the 3.4-Release CD-ROM a few months >ago, then went to 3.4-Stable and then 3.5-Stable via source upgrades. > >How far back do I need to go in the historical information? Is this >historical information taken from when 4.X was -current, and that's why the >dates don't match up for me, who was tracking 3.X? >-- >David Kanter >djkanter@northwestern.edu I cant speak for the rest of the file, but the two items you have mentioned are definitely still relevant for a 3.anything to a 4.anything upgrade. The wd driver is no longer preferred and config will complain (but allow you to use it) if you wish to keep using it over the new and more advanced ad driver. The ad driver was written from scratch and (usually) handles newer disks better and faster. Also, if you do not move the sendmail.cf into /etc/mail, 4.x's sendmail will not use it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 21: 3:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F9637B880; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:03:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.188]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:04:46 -0700 Message-ID: <3966A7F0.CB76EB3F@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 21:02:56 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** builds will be broken for a few hours References: <20000706131747.A89815@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000707021033.A48407@dragon.nuxi.com> <396613BC.2965C45B@3-cities.com> <20000707193730.B86552@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 10:30:36AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > After that last set of mods, I can do a buildworld but now I get > > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls > ... > > /tmp/ccb26172.s: Assembler messages: > > /tmp/ccb26172.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > > instruction > > /tmp/ccb26172.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > > instruction > > *** Error code 1 > ... > > When I try to build my kernel. Does the installworld have to be done > > before the kernel make. > > Yes in this case. Either that or use the ``make buildkernel'' target > w/in /usr/src. Warner explained about that mid-afternoon and I have since installed your changes on two machines using the "make buildkernel" sequence. The third system is going to wait until my DSL circuit is running. The cvsup won't take nearly as long :). Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 21:23:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (fedde.littleton.co.us [216.17.174.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9B737B9DB for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:23:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cfedde@fedde.littleton.co.us) Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fedde.littleton.co.us (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e684NIj82330 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:23:19 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007080423.e684NIj82330@fedde.littleton.co.us> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Fedde Subject: Compiler error durring make buildworld Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 22:23:18 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having a problem with make buildworld The error shows up as follows: cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/home/usr.src/i386/usr/include -c /home/usr.src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/hostfile.c -o hostfile.o cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 10 *** Error code 1 uname -a shows FreeBSD fedde.littleton.co.us 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #13: Mon May 1 22:36:13 MDT 2000 root@fedde.littleton.co.us:/home/usr.src/sys/compile/FEDDE i386 and cc --version 2.95.2 I've removed and cvsup'ed /usr/src so I believe that I have the latest greates RELENG_4 but the problem persists (failing at a different location occasionaly. Does anyone know what is happening? Can anyone clue me in? thanks chris -- Chris Fedde 303 773 9134 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 21:25:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zaphon.llamas.net (zaphon.llamas.net [207.203.36.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ADD4037B880 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:25:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grumple@zaphon.llamas.net) Received: (qmail 22555 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jul 2000 04:25:14 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:25:14 -0700 From: Greg Rumple To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.0-STABLE question (aka, now I did it) Message-ID: <20000707212514.W630@zaphon.llamas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0us X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well after seeing all the discussion on using make buildkernel KERNEL=BLAH I decided I would try it too. :-) Just to see what it does. Lo and behold, it builds my kernel. I than even did a make installkernel KERNEL=BLAH (which actually installs my kernel as /BLAH instead of /kernel). I even managed to boot it, and my system comes up to the point of loading the linux kernel module for linux binary compatibility and than it reboots. This went on for like 4 hours before I walked back in to see what was going on. So it appears that there is something quite different here than just doing a standard kernel install, it also rebuilds and installs all the kernel modules. So is the linux.ko kernel module really broken? Greg -- Greg Rumple grumple@zaphon.llamas.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 21:32:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B2D37B542 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:32:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e684WkO05142; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:32:46 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Greg Rumple Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE question (aka, now I did it) Message-ID: <20000707213246.V25571@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20000707212514.W630@zaphon.llamas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000707212514.W630@zaphon.llamas.net>; from grumple@zaphon.llamas.net on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 09:25:14PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Greg Rumple [000707 21:27] wrote: > Well after seeing all the discussion on using make buildkernel > KERNEL=BLAH I decided I would try it too. :-) Just to see what it > does. Lo and behold, it builds my kernel. I than even did a make > installkernel KERNEL=BLAH (which actually installs my kernel as /BLAH > instead of /kernel). I even managed to boot it, and my system comes up > to the point of loading the linux kernel module for linux binary > compatibility and than it reboots. This went on for like 4 hours before > I walked back in to see what was going on. So it appears that there is > something quite different here than just doing a standard kernel > install, it also rebuilds and installs all the kernel modules. > > So is the linux.ko kernel module really broken? Are you sure you're actually booting your new kernel? It would seem that unless you modified the files in /boot to load your new kernel that you're old one would run and try to load the newer linux module and then blow up. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 21:35:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0BB37B542 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:35:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.xtalwind.net [127.0.0.1]) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e684ZLb94560 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:35:20 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Is SMP broken in 4.0-STABLE? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Source CVSup update begins at 2000/07/07 19:31:53 EDT After making world and kernel, both make buildkernel and the old fashioned way, both SMP kernels freeze during boot. Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Fri Jul 7 23:07:37 EDT 2000 root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/SECOND Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193140 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 199424874 Hz CPU: Pentium Pro (199.42-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x616 Stepping = 6 Features=0xfbff real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 127635456 (124644K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 Freezes at this point. Below is dmesg from the previous kernel, which of course doesn't work now with the new modules. Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Tue Jul 4 15:43:46 EDT 2000 root@second.local.lan:/usr/src/sys/compile/SECOND Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193141 Hz CPU: Pentium Pro (199.42-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x616 Stepping = 6 Features=0xfbff real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 127557632 (124568K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel.good" at 0xc02bd000. module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (vesa, c0205400, 0) error 6 Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ahc0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xffa9f000-0xffa9ffff irq 16 at device 9.0 on pci0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs pci0: at 10.0 irq 16 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ed0 at port 0x300-0x31f iomem 0xd8000 irq 11 on isa0 ed0: address 00:00:b4:66:38:16, type NE2000 (16 bit) sb0 at port 0x220 irq 10 drq 1 on isa0 snd0: sb0: driver is using old-style compatability shims ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! ad0: 1549MB [3148/16/63] at ata0-master using WDMA2 Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 1010MB (2069860 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1010C) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) da1: 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C) da3 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da3: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da3: 4340MB (8888543 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 21:36:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7DC37BABB for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:36:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000703) id e684aBt06569; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:36:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007080436.e684aBt06569@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE question (aka, now I did it) In-Reply-To: <20000707213246.V25571@fw.wintelcom.net> "from Alfred Perlstein at Jul 7, 2000 09:32:46 pm" To: Alfred Perlstein Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:36:11 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Greg Rumple , stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had this too, had to REALLY boot the new kernel. Check the dmesg log... Larry > * Greg Rumple [000707 21:27] wrote: > > Well after seeing all the discussion on using make buildkernel > > KERNEL=BLAH I decided I would try it too. :-) Just to see what it > > does. Lo and behold, it builds my kernel. I than even did a make > > installkernel KERNEL=BLAH (which actually installs my kernel as /BLAH > > instead of /kernel). I even managed to boot it, and my system comes up > > to the point of loading the linux kernel module for linux binary > > compatibility and than it reboots. This went on for like 4 hours before > > I walked back in to see what was going on. So it appears that there is > > something quite different here than just doing a standard kernel > > install, it also rebuilds and installs all the kernel modules. > > > > So is the linux.ko kernel module really broken? > > Are you sure you're actually booting your new kernel? It would seem > that unless you modified the files in /boot to load your new kernel > that you're old one would run and try to load the newer linux module > and then blow up. > > -Alfred > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 21:45:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A10F37B542 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:45:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@earthlink.net) Received: from dialin-client.earthlink.net (pool1038.cvx20-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.254.18]) by merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01929; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by dialin-client.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00769; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:43:00 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Kevin Oberman Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Parts of sendmail seem to be missing Message-ID: <20000707214300.B416@dialin-client.earthlink.net> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <200007071618.e67GIUn23866@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200007071618.e67GIUn23866@ptavv.es.net>; from oberman@es.net on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 09:18:30AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 09:18:30AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > I have not run sendmail on my systems as I receive mail elsewhere and > felt that it was mostly a potential pain in the neck. As a result, I > had 'sendmail_enable="NO"' in my rc.conf. > > For various reasons (including the fact that my system is now behind a > firewall) I decided to start running sendmail and deleted that line > from my rc.conf. I then CVSUPed (7/6 @ 18:00 UTC), rebuilt my system > and tried to set up sendmail. Everything looked fine with the > appropriate files in /etc/mail, but when I tried to invoke sendmail it > get: sendmail: execing /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail: No such file or > directory > > I get about the same error using mail(1). > > Any idea what is missing here? The /usr/libexec/sendmail directory > exists, but is empty. /usr/src/libexec does not contain a sendmail > directory at all. The man pages for sendmail are 2 years old and make > no reference to any file in libexec. > > Any clue as to what I'm missing? The sendmail source is in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail. Do you have a, NO_SENDMAIL= true In your /etc/make.conf? -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 21:58:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from manatee.mammalia.org (manatee.mammalia.org [216.231.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA6A37B9DB for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:58:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjoseph@mammalia.org) Received: by manatee.mammalia.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 059A111CE08; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:58:52 -0700 From: R Joseph Wright To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE question (aka, now I did it) Message-ID: <20000707215852.A11695@manatee.mammalia.org> References: <20000707212514.W630@zaphon.llamas.net> <20000707213246.V25571@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000707213246.V25571@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 09:32:46PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 09:32:46PM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Greg Rumple [000707 21:27] wrote: > > Well after seeing all the discussion on using make buildkernel > > KERNEL=BLAH I decided I would try it too. :-) Just to see what it > > does. Lo and behold, it builds my kernel. I than even did a make > > installkernel KERNEL=BLAH (which actually installs my kernel as /BLAH > > instead of /kernel). I even managed to boot it, and my system comes up > > to the point of loading the linux kernel module for linux binary > > compatibility and than it reboots. This went on for like 4 hours before > > I walked back in to see what was going on. So it appears that there is > > something quite different here than just doing a standard kernel > > install, it also rebuilds and installs all the kernel modules. > > > > So is the linux.ko kernel module really broken? > > Are you sure you're actually booting your new kernel? It would seem > that unless you modified the files in /boot to load your new kernel > that you're old one would run and try to load the newer linux module > and then blow up. Why would you have to modify the files in /boot? Last time I did it, doing installkernel KERNEL=BLAH would only put BLAH in the / directory. You still have to do # chflags noschg kernel BLAH # mv kernel kernel.old # mv BLAH kernel # chflags schg kernel* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 22:22:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wysoft.tzo.com (c481444-a.bremtn1.wa.home.com [24.12.235.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EF337BB74; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:22:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wysoft@wysoft.tzo.com) Received: from localhost (wysoft@localhost) by wysoft.tzo.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e685M8K10983; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:22:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Wyman To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Brad Knowles , "Brandon D. Valentine" , Daniel Frazier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > So now that we've got this all sorted out, if anyone is still having 3.5 > build problems then please let me and Assar know about them..thanks. My rant was just in response to Brad's pointing out of the "better off upgrading to 4.0" (or similar) suggestion that had appeared now and then. I certainly didn't want to make anyone feel bad for breaking RELENG_3 in the course of development. *pat on the back* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 22:35:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B82837B70B; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA05681; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:35:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Jeff Wyman Cc: Brad Knowles , "Brandon D. Valentine" , Daniel Frazier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Jeff Wyman wrote: > > So now that we've got this all sorted out, if anyone is still having 3.5 > > build problems then please let me and Assar know about them..thanks. > > My rant was just in response to Brad's pointing out of the "better off > upgrading to 4.0" (or similar) suggestion that had appeared now and > then. I certainly didn't want to make anyone feel bad for breaking > RELENG_3 in the course of development. *pat on the back* Oh, apologies then :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 22:43:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spider.forumone.com (spider.forumone.com [207.32.101.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E388B37BAF2 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:43:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jo@spider.forumone.com) Received: by spider.forumone.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id DD9F917B76E; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spider.forumone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA25C50089 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:43:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Joakim Ryden To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: machine.h Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I cvsuped RELENG_4 earlier today and went to build the sources and got: ===> sys/modules/syscons/fire make: don't know how to make machine/random.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Any ideas on what I might be missing? (my lutheran upbringing says it's my fault ;) Jo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 23: 5:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF61537B572 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:05:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA31915; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:05:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA67171; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:05:40 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007080605.AAA67171@harmony.village.org> To: chad@DCFinc.com Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop Cc: kstewart@3-cities.com, lint@satan.dyn.reject.org, cjm2@earthling.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:02:48 PDT." <200007072102.OAA06948@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <200007072102.OAA06948@freeway.dcfinc.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 00:05:40 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200007072102.OAA06948@freeway.dcfinc.com> "Chad R. Larson" writes: : As I recall, Warner Losh wrote: : > How are you building the new kernel? If it isn't with make : > buildkernel KERNEL=OPAL, it isn't supported :-) : : Is this buildkernel target for upgrades only, or is it now the : standard practice? It is needed only for upgrading. It is needed because you must build the new kernel with the correct tools. Since people usually do the buildworld thing, the rule of thumb is that if you do a buildworld that you need to do a buildkernel as well. As always, extra knowledge will allow ou to get away with the old way. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 23: 6:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D34937B854 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:06:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08414; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:06:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007080606.XAA08414@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now In-Reply-To: from "Brandon D. Valentine" at "Jul 7, 0 06:51:01 pm" To: bandix@looksharp.net (Brandon D. Valentine) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:06:23 -0700 (MST) Cc: saper@system.pl, Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > You could probably even do it in Bourne shell if you were very clean > about it, but I would prefer to parse the conf file in perl myself. > This would be a much better idea than SYSV-afying our init. As we seem to be going to hash this to death, allow me to point out the SysV "run states" can be quite useful. For example, we failover our production OLTP servers to their warm standby machines by typing "init 4". Not too much an operator can get wrong there. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 23: 6:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6949537B854 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:06:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA31921; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:06:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA67184; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:06:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007080606.AAA67184@harmony.village.org> To: "Kevin Oberman" Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop Cc: Kent Stewart , FreeBSD Stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:04:11 PDT." <200007072104.e67L4Bn25532@ptavv.es.net> References: <200007072104.e67L4Bn25532@ptavv.es.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 00:06:38 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200007072104.e67L4Bn25532@ptavv.es.net> "Kevin Oberman" writes: : Does this only apply after a buildworld? I assumed that I could safely : "config KERNEL; cd ../../compile/KERNEL; make depend; make; make : install" any time I was simply modifying my kernel--as I always do : when the xe driver gets re-installed and starts spewing out : informational debug messages. (I always forget to doe this and I would : love to see the distribution changed to NOT define XE_DEBUG!) Yes. You assume correctly. Send me patches for the XE_DEBUG and I'll see about getting them in. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 23:16:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zaphon.llamas.net (zaphon.llamas.net [207.203.36.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0217737B854 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:16:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grumple@zaphon.llamas.net) Received: (qmail 24263 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jul 2000 06:16:52 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:16:52 -0700 From: Greg Rumple To: R Joseph Wright Cc: Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE question (aka, now I did it) Message-ID: <20000707231652.B630@zaphon.llamas.net> References: <20000707212514.W630@zaphon.llamas.net> <20000707213246.V25571@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000707215852.A11695@manatee.mammalia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0us In-Reply-To: <20000707215852.A11695@manatee.mammalia.org>; from rjoseph@mammalia.org on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 09:58:52PM -0700 X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * R Joseph Wright (rjoseph@mammalia.org) [000708 04:59]: > On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 09:32:46PM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > * Greg Rumple [000707 21:27] wrote: > > > Well after seeing all the discussion on using make buildkernel > > > KERNEL=BLAH I decided I would try it too. :-) Just to see what it > > > does. Lo and behold, it builds my kernel. I than even did a make > > > installkernel KERNEL=BLAH (which actually installs my kernel as /BLAH > > > instead of /kernel). I even managed to boot it, and my system comes up > > > to the point of loading the linux kernel module for linux binary > > > compatibility and than it reboots. This went on for like 4 hours before > > > I walked back in to see what was going on. So it appears that there is > > > something quite different here than just doing a standard kernel > > > install, it also rebuilds and installs all the kernel modules. > > > > > > So is the linux.ko kernel module really broken? > > > > Are you sure you're actually booting your new kernel? It would seem > > that unless you modified the files in /boot to load your new kernel > > that you're old one would run and try to load the newer linux module > > and then blow up. > > Why would you have to modify the files in /boot? > Last time I did it, doing installkernel KERNEL=BLAH would only put BLAH > in the / directory. You still have to do > # chflags noschg kernel BLAH > # mv kernel kernel.old > # mv BLAH kernel > # chflags schg kernel* Actually this is kind of what I did, and this did not work. I had to truly boot BLAH for the kernel modules to work. WEIRD.. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Greg Rumple grumple@zaphon.llamas.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 23:18:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2538F37B854 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:18:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA12039; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 15:48:41 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 15:48:41 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Chris Fedde Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compiler error durring make buildworld Message-ID: <20000708154841.E11249@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200007080423.e684NIj82330@fedde.littleton.co.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <200007080423.e684NIj82330@fedde.littleton.co.us> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 7 July 2000 at 22:23:18 -0600, Chris Fedde wrote: > I'm having a problem with make buildworld > The error shows up as follows: > > cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/home/usr.src/i386/usr/include -c > /home/usr.src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/hostfile.c -o > hostfile.o > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 10 > *** Error code 1 > > uname -a shows > > FreeBSD fedde.littleton.co.us 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #13: Mon May 1 > 22:36:13 MDT 2000 > root@fedde.littleton.co.us:/home/usr.src/sys/compile/FEDDE i386 > > and cc --version > 2.95.2 > > I've removed and cvsup'ed /usr/src so I believe that I have the latest > greates RELENG_4 but the problem persists (failing at a different location > occasionaly. The "different location" is what I would expect. > Does anyone know what is happening? Can anyone clue me in? Sounds like hardware problems. Don't ask me why, but bad memory in particular can cause this to happen. That's why it happens in different locations. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 7 23:22:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0B337B7FC for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:22:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e686MCY07633; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:22:12 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Greg Rumple Cc: R Joseph Wright , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE question (aka, now I did it) Message-ID: <20000707232212.X25571@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20000707212514.W630@zaphon.llamas.net> <20000707213246.V25571@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000707215852.A11695@manatee.mammalia.org> <20000707231652.B630@zaphon.llamas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000707231652.B630@zaphon.llamas.net>; from grumple@zaphon.llamas.net on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 11:16:52PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Greg Rumple [000707 23:16] wrote: > * R Joseph Wright (rjoseph@mammalia.org) [000708 04:59]: > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 09:32:46PM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > * Greg Rumple [000707 21:27] wrote: > > > > Well after seeing all the discussion on using make buildkernel > > > > KERNEL=BLAH I decided I would try it too. :-) Just to see what it > > > > does. Lo and behold, it builds my kernel. I than even did a make > > > > installkernel KERNEL=BLAH (which actually installs my kernel as /BLAH > > > > instead of /kernel). I even managed to boot it, and my system comes up > > > > to the point of loading the linux kernel module for linux binary > > > > compatibility and than it reboots. This went on for like 4 hours before > > > > I walked back in to see what was going on. So it appears that there is > > > > something quite different here than just doing a standard kernel > > > > install, it also rebuilds and installs all the kernel modules. > > > > > > > > So is the linux.ko kernel module really broken? > > > > > > Are you sure you're actually booting your new kernel? It would seem > > > that unless you modified the files in /boot to load your new kernel > > > that you're old one would run and try to load the newer linux module > > > and then blow up. > > > > Why would you have to modify the files in /boot? > > Last time I did it, doing installkernel KERNEL=BLAH would only put BLAH > > in the / directory. You still have to do > > # chflags noschg kernel BLAH > > # mv kernel kernel.old > > # mv BLAH kernel > > # chflags schg kernel* > > Actually this is kind of what I did, and this did not work. I had to > truly boot BLAH for the kernel modules to work. WEIRD.. Not 'weird', this is to be expected, the bootloader is looking for a file called /kernel, you have to tell it to look for some other name. Just be glad you don't have to recompile your bootloader each time you upgrade your kernel... :) -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 1: 3:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7ECC37B70C for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:02:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA64162; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:44:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: Daniel Frazier , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 08 Jul 2000 09:44:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Brandon D. Valentine"'s message of "Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:13:09 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Brandon D. Valentine" writes: > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Daniel Frazier wrote: > >Adam wrote: > > > I am trying to build 3.5-stable on a 3.4-stable system of about two > > > months old. /usr/src/UPDATING is empty. Can anyone throw a clue or patch > > > my way? > >Sorry Adam, can't help you. CVSupped last night. make buildworld is dying > >for me at exactly the same point. I hope this gets fixed soon. > > > >===> libfetch > >compile_et /usr/src/lib/libfetch/fetch_err.et > > fetch_err.et has been removed from RELENG_4 [...] What are you guys trying to do, exactly? Are you sure your tree is clean? fetch_err.et was never removed from RELENG_3, so if you're having trouble building RELENG_3 you've probably got a mixed tree. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 1:17:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (a13c249.neo.rr.com [204.210.212.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E335737B7C6 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:17:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@argos.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e688GjI27256 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 04:16:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 04:16:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Nowlin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RocketPort driver message Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After upgrading a 3.4-S machine to 4.0-S, I noticed the following: WARNING: driver rp should register devices with make_dev() (dev_t = "#rp/0x10088") I remade /dev/ttyR* and /dev/cuaR*, and am still getting this message. The ports seem to work OK, but I'm just curious. Is this some kind of compatibility quirk, or is something actually broken? /dev entries look like: rimmer:/usr4/mike$ ls -l /dev/ttyR0 /dev/cuaR0 crw------- 1 uucp dialer 81, 0x00010080 Jul 8 02:29 /dev/cuaR0 crw------- 1 root wheel 81, 0x00010000 Jul 8 02:29 /dev/ttyR0 rimmer:/usr4/mike$ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Understated/funny man-page sentence of the current time period: From route(4) on FreeBSD-3.4, DESCRIPTION section: "FreeBSD provides some packet routing facilities." ...duh....... Mike Nowlin, N8NVW mike@argos.org http://www.viewsnet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 1:24:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA6337B797; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:24:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA23580; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:24:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:24:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: "Brandon D. Valentine" , Daniel Frazier , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Cant build 3.5-stable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 8 Jul 2000, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > What are you guys trying to do, exactly? Are you sure your tree is > clean? fetch_err.et was never removed from RELENG_3, so if you're > having trouble building RELENG_3 you've probably got a mixed tree. This problem is fixed (it was KerberosIV fallout) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 1:26:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF5D37BA7C; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:26:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA23724; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:26:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:26:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Greg Rumple , R Joseph Wright , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE question (aka, now I did it) In-Reply-To: <20000707232212.X25571@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > Actually this is kind of what I did, and this did not work. I had to > > truly boot BLAH for the kernel modules to work. WEIRD.. > > Not 'weird', this is to be expected, the bootloader is looking for > a file called /kernel, you have to tell it to look for some other > name. Hmm, isn't this fixed in -current so that it installs the kernel as /kernel as expected? Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 5: 6:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2ainfo.it (ppp03.2ainfo.it [195.31.142.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8468637B6C5 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 05:06:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from filippo@2ainfo.it) Received: (from filippo@localhost) by 2ainfo.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA92988 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 14:09:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from filippo) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 14:08:47 +0200 From: Filippo Moretti To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mouse problems with XFree 4.0.1 Message-ID: <20000708140847.A89598@2ainfo.it> References: <396641E1.7A6A8F74@isi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <396641E1.7A6A8F74@isi.edu>; from larse@ISI.EDU on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 01:47:29PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 01:47:29PM -0700, Lars Eggert wrote: > Peter van Heusden wrote: > > Sorry, no ideas, but I get the same behaviour here with 4.0.1. I'm running > > a recent (about 1 week old) 4-STABLE, and my mouse is a MS Intellimouse > > Explorer, with moused running (i.e. SysMouse protocol). I've tried running > > without moused (i.e. USB mouse protocol), but the result is the same - > > when I go back into X after having been in a virtual console, the mouse > > is frozen (rest of X seems to work, though). > > Another "me too". This is with a Logitech MouseMan PS/2, running moused, > and X protocol set to "Auto". a same here,I wonder wether it is a problem with stable or XFree86-4.0.1 XFree86-4.0 was working properly sincerely Filippo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 5:39: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.agava.net.ru (2.oivt.mipt.ru [193.125.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4AB37BD09 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 05:39:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@agava.com) Received: from hellbell.domain (hellbell.domain [192.168.1.12]) by relay2.agava.net.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671065DB8 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 12:39:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:39:01 +0400 (MSD) From: Alexey Zakirov X-Sender: frank@hellbell.domain To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: kernel doesn't boot on smp after last cvsup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hail! I have L440GX+ with two PIII-550. After last cvsup from cvsup.internat.freebsd.org (about 15:30 8 Jul) my machine doesn't boot. Machine reboots during kernel load after APIC operations: ================================================== Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jul 8 16:12:34 MSD 2000 frank@reality.agava.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/REALITY Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (547.18-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 Features=0x387fbff real memory = 805240832 (786368K bytes) avail memory = 779747328 (761472K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 ================================================== Kernel from last week cvsup works just fine with same kernel config. Is there any suggestions or comments? P.S. my kernel config: ================================================== machine "i386" cpu "I686_CPU" ident REALITY maxusers 256 options NMBCLUSTERS=16384 options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options MFS #Memory Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options QUOTA #enable disk quotas options INET #Internet communications protocols options IPSEC #IP security options IPSEC_ESP #IP security (crypto; define w/ IPSEC) options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable transparent proxy support options IPDIVERT #divert sockets options IPSTEALTH #support for stealth forwarding options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN options TCP_RESTRICT_RST #restrict emission of TCP RST options ICMP_BANDLIM options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options SHMALL=8192 options SHMMAX="(SHMMAXPGS*PAGE_SIZE+1)" options SHMMAXPGS=8192 options SHMMIN=2 options SHMMNI=256 options SHMSEG=128 options P1003_1B options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L device isa device pci device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX flags 0x0 irq 13 device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 flags 0x0 irq 3 device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device vga0 at isa? device sc0 at isa? device smbus # Bus support, required for smb below. device intpm device smb device iicbus device iicbb device iicsmb device scbus # base SCSI code device da # SCSI direct access devices (aka disks) device pass # CAM passthrough driver device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO options SCSI_DELAY=3000 # Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device pty 64 # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device vn 4 pseudo-device bpf 4 #Berkeley packet filter pseudo-device gif 4 #IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device ccd 8 #Concatenated disk driver ================================================== *** WBR, Alexey Zakirov (frank@agava.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 5:52: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E35A37B9F8 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 05:52:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reader@newsguy.com) Received: (qmail 28239 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2000 12:52:05 -0000 Received: from adsl-117-113.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.117.113) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 8 Jul 2000 12:52:05 -0000 Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA28601; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 05:52:02 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sendmail queues but not sending From: Harry Putnam Date: 08 Jul 2000 03:29:41 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 27 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not sure if this is strictly 4.0 related but since the location of sendmail.cf was `secretly' : ) moved to /etc/mail I thought it might be. I've redone a *.mc file in accord with the information at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/admin.html#UUCPMAIL To relay through my ISP and masquerade the domain of my ISP mail machine. This all seem to be working OK, but the part of restarting sendmail isn't really explained and being from a linux background I'm not sure of how this is done. Calling `kill -HUP on /var/run/sendmail.pid|awk 'NR == 1' seems to do it. But then sending a messages and watching `tail -f /var/log/all.log' I see the messages is queued but not sent. It sets in que but doesn't get sent out. The stock flag set in /etc/defaults/rc.conf is `/usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q30m' Which looks like it tells sendmail to check the queue ever 30 minutes. Seems kind of lengthy, but is there a better way to have mail sent immediately than changing that flag to `-q1s' (check queue ever second)? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 6:41:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7A837B8B8 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:41:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: from earth.causticlabs.com (unknown [207.192.76.206]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB279B1C for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:41:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@earth.causticlabs.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RELENG_4 modules Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Modules appear to be installed both during installworld and when installing a new kernel. Was module-building with the kernel meant to be MFC'd? If so, shouldn't we disable building/installing during the world build/install? ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 6:44:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from reticent.troll.no (reticent.troll.no [195.0.254.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2AC837BC46 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:44:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bhughes@trolltech.com) Received: (qmail 3873 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Jul 2000 13:44:17 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jul 2000 13:44:17 -0000 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 15:44:17 +0200 (CEST) From: "Bradley T. Hughes" X-Sender: bhughes@reticent.troll.no To: Alexey Zakirov Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel doesn't boot on smp after last cvsup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Alexey Zakirov wrote: > Hail! > > I have L440GX+ with two PIII-550. After last cvsup from > cvsup.internat.freebsd.org (about 15:30 8 Jul) my machine doesn't boot. > Machine reboots during kernel load after APIC operations: > ================================================== > Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jul 8 16:12:34 MSD 2000 > frank@reality.agava.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/REALITY > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (547.18-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 > Features=0x387fbff > real memory = 805240832 (786368K bytes) > avail memory = 779747328 (761472K bytes) > Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 > IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 > ================================================== > > Kernel from last week cvsup works just fine with same kernel config. > > Is there any suggestions or comments? I also have this problem, using the same kernel config with sources checkout 08.Juli 11.00 CEST i440BX ASUS P2B w/ 2 P3 650's -- Bradley T. Hughes Waldemar Thranes gt. 98B N-0175 Oslo, Norway Office: +47 21 60 48 92 Mobile: +47 92 01 97 81 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 6:45: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07F137B53A for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:44:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: from earth.causticlabs.com (unknown [207.192.76.206]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF279B1C; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:45:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@earth.causticlabs.com To: Alexey Zakirov Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel doesn't boot on smp after last cvsup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Alexey Zakirov wrote: > Hail! > > I have L440GX+ with two PIII-550. After last cvsup from > cvsup.internat.freebsd.org (about 15:30 8 Jul) my machine doesn't boot. > Machine reboots during kernel load after APIC operations: Me Too with a Dual P-166 here. Even with DDB in the kernel, the system immediately reboots after APIC ops... ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 7: 4:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.inwind.it (relay2.inwind.it [212.141.53.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2839237B8B8 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:04:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@inwind.it) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (212.141.79.78) by relay2.inwind.it; 8 Jul 2000 16:03:52 +0200 From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 15:04:34 GMT Message-ID: <20000708.15043400@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: Re: RELENG_4 modules To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: SuperCalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 7/8/00, 2:41:57 PM, "Chris D. Faulhaber" wrote=20 regarding RELENG_4 modules: > Modules appear to be installed both during installworld and when > installing a new kernel. Was module-building with the kernel meant to= =20 be > MFC'd? If so, shouldn't we disable building/installing during the=20 world > build/install? > ----- > Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org > -------------------------------------------------------- > FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org Dear Chris Faulhaber, once upon a time, er, a few weeks ago, there was a thread dealing with=20 these specific issues (you may wish to look for "panic in the=20 morning", or something like that). In order to prevent the out of sync problem, the mechanism that has=20 very recently been MFC-ed to -STABLE was then implemented. HTH a tiny bit, Salvo =20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 7: 6:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162EB37BE3D for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:06:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 23C889B1C; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14886BA11; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:06:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@pawn.primelocation.net To: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 modules In-Reply-To: <20000708.15043400@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > On 7/8/00, 2:41:57 PM, "Chris D. Faulhaber" wrote > regarding RELENG_4 modules: > > > Modules appear to be installed both during installworld and when > > installing a new kernel. Was module-building with the kernel meant to > be > > MFC'd? If so, shouldn't we disable building/installing during the > world > > build/install? > > Dear Chris Faulhaber, > > once upon a time, er, a few weeks ago, there was a thread dealing with > these specific issues (you may wish to look for "panic in the > morning", or something like that). > > In order to prevent the out of sync problem, the mechanism that has > very recently been MFC-ed to -STABLE was then implemented. > I understand the purpose behind it. The problem now is that modules are built/installed twice, during world *and* kernel. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 7:21:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.inwind.it (relay2.inwind.it [212.141.53.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0AF37B566 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@inwind.it) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (212.141.79.78) by relay2.inwind.it; 8 Jul 2000 16:21:43 +0200 From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 15:22:27 GMT Message-ID: <20000708.15222700@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: Re: RELENG_4 modules To: jedgar@fxp.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000708.15043400@bartequi.ottodomain.org> References: <20000708.15043400@bartequi.ottodomain.org> X-Mailer: SuperCalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Dear Chris Faulhaber, > once upon a time, er, a few weeks ago, there was a thread dealing with= > these specific issues (you may wish to look for "panic in the > morning", or something like that). > In order to prevent the out of sync problem, the mechanism that has > very recently been MFC-ed to -STABLE was then implemented. > HTH a tiny bit, > Salvo Mea (maxima) culpa. I forgot to specify that the thread in question ("panic in the=20 norning", then "stale modules") developed in -current. Best regards, Salvo =20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 7:22:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82AE37B606 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:22:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 812C59B1C; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:22:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76016BA11 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:22:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:22:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 modules In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The following appears to not have been MFC'd ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org Index: etc/defaults/make.conf =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/etc/defaults/make.conf,v retrieving revision 1.97.2.7 diff -u -r1.97.2.7 make.conf --- etc/defaults/make.conf 2000/07/05 00:05:59 1.97.2.7 +++ etc/defaults/make.conf 2000/07/08 14:19:40 @@ -47,6 +47,7 @@ #NO_FORTRAN= true # do not build g77 and related libraries #NO_LPR= true # do not build lpr and related programs #NO_MAILWRAPPER=true # do not build the mailwrapper(8) MTA selector +#NO_MODULES= true # do not build modules with the kernel #NO_OBJC= true # do not build Objective C support #NO_OPENSSH= true # do not build OpenSSH #NO_OPENSSL= true # do not build OpenSSL (implies NO_OPENSSH) @@ -61,6 +62,8 @@ #NOSECURE= true # do not build crypto code in secure/ subdir #NOSHARE= true # do not go into the share subdir # +# To build sys/modules when building the world (our old way of doing things) +#MODULES_WITH_WORLD=true # do not build modules when building kernel # # Controls for building various OPTIONAL parts of the crypto system. # Patents are involved - you must not use these unless you either have Index: sys/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.20 diff -u -r1.20 Makefile --- sys/Makefile 1999/11/14 13:54:38 1.20 +++ sys/Makefile 2000/07/08 14:19:41 @@ -12,7 +12,9 @@ .endif # KLD modules build for both a.out and ELF +.if defined(MODULES_WITH_WORLD) SUBDIR+=modules +.endif HTAGSFLAGS+= -at `awk -F= '/^RELEASE *=/{release=$2}; END {print "FreeBSD", release, "kernel"}' < conf/newvers.sh` To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 7:40: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.inwind.it (relay2.inwind.it [212.141.53.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6D237B5B7 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@inwind.it) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (212.141.79.78) by relay2.inwind.it; 8 Jul 2000 16:39:40 +0200 From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 15:40:24 GMT Message-ID: <20000708.15402400@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: Re: RELENG_4 modules To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: SuperCalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The following appears to not have been MFC'd > ----- > Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org > -------------------------------------------------------- > FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org > Index: etc/defaults/make.conf > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/etc/defaults/make.conf,v > retrieving revision 1.97.2.7 > diff -u -r1.97.2.7 make.conf > --- etc/defaults/make.conf 2000/07/05 00:05:59 1.97.2.7 > +++ etc/defaults/make.conf 2000/07/08 14:19:40 By the way, I am going to make world, and test the new mechanism for=20 -STABLE in the following ... minutes. I remember reading about a command/instruction to *disable* the=20 modules build, I can't recall right now (I'm on 4-STABLE as of several=20 weeks ago). I have never used it, though: building kernel + modules=20 takes less than 10 minutes on my system. Best regards, Salvo=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 8:44: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F0337B5DE for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 08:44:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA08870; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:44:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <00ba01bfe8f3$58dc6900$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: , "Harry Putnam" References: Subject: Re: Sendmail queues but not sending Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:44:04 -0500 Organization: West Bend Internet X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4029.2901 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4029.2901 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Harry Putnam" > `/usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q30m' Which looks like it tells sendmail to > check the queue ever 30 minutes. Seems kind of lengthy, but is there > a better way to have mail sent immediately than changing that flag to > `-q1s' (check queue ever second)? > Just run '/usr/sbin/sendmail -q' and that will immediately flush the queue. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 9:30:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E92437B909 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:30:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19598; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 12:30:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 12:30:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: "Scot W. Hetzel" Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Sendmail queues but not sending In-Reply-To: <00ba01bfe8f3$58dc6900$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Scot W. Hetzel wrote: >From: "Harry Putnam" >> `/usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q30m' Which looks like it tells sendmail to >> check the queue ever 30 minutes. Seems kind of lengthy, but is there >> a better way to have mail sent immediately than changing that flag to >> `-q1s' (check queue ever second)? >> >Just run '/usr/sbin/sendmail -q' and that will immediately flush the queue. Operation and configuration of sendmail is an issue for freebsd-questions and has no direct relationship to the freebsd-stable charter. I am sure if you repost to freebsd-questions, Mr. Hetzel, that you will have more success getting this answered. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 9:39:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E6B37B566 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:39:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA09373; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 11:39:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <014501bfe8fb$16e4ec40$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: "FreeBSD-STABLE" References: Subject: Re: Sendmail queues but not sending Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 11:39:30 -0500 Organization: West Bend Internet X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4029.2901 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4029.2901 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Brandon D. Valentine" > On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Scot W. Hetzel wrote: > > >From: "Harry Putnam" > >> `/usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q30m' Which looks like it tells sendmail to > >> check the queue ever 30 minutes. Seems kind of lengthy, but is there > >> a better way to have mail sent immediately than changing that flag to > >> `-q1s' (check queue ever second)? > >> > >Just run '/usr/sbin/sendmail -q' and that will immediately flush the queue. > > Operation and configuration of sendmail is an issue for > freebsd-questions and has no direct relationship to the freebsd-stable > charter. I am sure if you repost to freebsd-questions, Mr. Hetzel, that > you will have more success getting this answered. > I know that freebsd-questions was a more appropriate list, but forgot to include it in my reply to Harry Putnam. Who asked the question on how to immediately flush his sendmail queue. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 9:49:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E5137BFEE for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:48:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19752; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 12:48:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 12:48:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: "Scot W. Hetzel" Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Sendmail queues but not sending In-Reply-To: <014501bfe8fb$16e4ec40$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Scot W. Hetzel wrote: >I know that freebsd-questions was a more appropriate list, but forgot to include it in my reply to Harry Putnam. Who asked the >question on how to immediately flush his sendmail queue. Sorry, in that case my reply would have been better directed at Mr. Putnam. =) Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 9:53: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com [207.46.181.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B7F37C1B3 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bonk1138@msn.com) Received: from lando - 63.15.0.107 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:52:33 -0700 From: "James Johnson" To: Subject: SMP Busted? Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:51:21 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just updated and rebuilt world/kernel. My machine is now rebooting over and over. Do we have an issue with SMP in -STABLE now? I did this two days ago w/o problems. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 9:58:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bezeqint.net (mail-a.bezeqint.net [192.115.106.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C443137C056 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:58:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nimrodme@bezeqint.net) Received: from bezeqint.net ([212.179.173.98]) by mail.bezeqint.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0FXE009AE1ROB8@mail.bezeqint.net> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:57:25 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 19:55:08 +0300 From: Nimrod Mesika Subject: Re: SMP Busted? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: nimrodm@email.com Message-id: <39675CEC.BE15E450@bezeqint.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James Johnson wrote: > > I just updated and rebuilt world/kernel. My machine is now rebooting over > and over. Do we have an issue with SMP in -STABLE now? Obviously we do... Reboots immediately on my BP6 just after initializing APIC... Only cure I have found is to disable SMP and APIC_IO for now. -- Nimrod. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 10:44:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zipcode.corp.home.net (zipcode.corp.home.net [24.0.26.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5627A37C3C0; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manek@nwserv.com) Received: from after (shiva-user21.corp.home.net [24.0.8.151]) by zipcode.corp.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA09243; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:44:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: , Subject: Editing stable-supfile Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:44:03 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Someone with proper privileges should edit /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile and remove the crypto tags from it. Since they are no longer needed, and may confuse novice users. Sameer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 10:52: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7DF037BC13 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:51:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reader@newsguy.com) Received: (qmail 1308 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2000 17:51:57 -0000 Received: from adsl-117-113.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.117.113) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 8 Jul 2000 17:51:57 -0000 Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA30097; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:51:54 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail queues but not sending References: From: Harry Putnam In-Reply-To: "Brandon D. Valentine"'s message of "Sat, 8 Jul 2000 12:48:30 -0400 (EDT)" Date: 08 Jul 2000 10:03:30 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 16 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Brandon D. Valentine" writes: > Sorry, in that case my reply would have been better directed at Mr. > Putnam. =) Mr. Putnam says, " point taken" about the proper list. And thanks posters for the info. It turned out to be the introduction of a flag `0 DeliveryMode=deffered' That is contained in the FreeBSD.org help pages at: http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/admin.html Under the question: Q: How do I set up mail with a dialup connection to the 'net? Its part of the example *.mc file. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 11:22:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isrv3.isc.org (isrv3.isc.org [204.152.184.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1F237B88C for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 11:22:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vixie@mibh.net) Received: from redpaul.mibh.net (redpaul.mibh.net [204.152.187.70]) by isrv3.isc.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) via ESMTP id LAA05995; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 11:22:39 -0700 (PDT) env-from (vixie@mibh.net) Received: from redpaul.mibh.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by redpaul.mibh.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) via ESMTP id LAA12838; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 11:22:37 -0700 (PDT) env-from (vixie@mibh.net) Message-Id: <200007081822.LAA12838@redpaul.mibh.net> To: Graham Wheeler Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, bind-bugs@isc.org Subject: Re: [BIND-BUGS #993] Any chance of changing struct member names in nameser.h? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:47:08 +0200." <24c7bf729bd71b904dba8ca2d38e3205@cequrux.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 11:22:37 -0700 From: Paul A Vixie Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG nameser.h (which is now nameser_compat.h in bind8) is a compatibility interface. there is code in the world which depends on these structure member names. my recommendation is to change your application to use the names in bind8's nameser.h, and avoid the names defined in nameser_compat.h. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 13: 0:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A69137B532 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:00:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: by lunatic.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 05F7A15543; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:00:49 -0700 From: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Unification of CVSUP servers Message-ID: <20000708130049.A74152@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 4.0-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (54% of Full) X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane2-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 12:59PM up 2 days, 18:53, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With internat becoming part of the main stream with the rest of the CVSUP servers and the crypto mode is there still going to be a nedd for the USA_RESIDENT variable in /etc/make.conf. TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So whom ELSE do I add to my list of total jerks? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 13: 7:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3102.mail.yahoo.com (web3102.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BEF637B799 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:07:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000708200726.29818.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.141.203.244] by web3102.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 13:07:26 PDT Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:07:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: RELENG_4 buildworld fails in binutils/libbfd To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Kent Stewart wrote: > You must have missed the **HEADS UP** that they were breaking Stable > while they MFC /binutils from 5-current to 4.1. > > Kent I'm sorry guys.. but MFC?? I've seen that term used repeatedly but have no idea what it means.. Thanks, -Richard __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 13:11:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB3937BEE1 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:11:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net. [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11905; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:11:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <39678AF2.2FA77AB3@thehousleys.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 16:11:30 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Stanaford Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 buildworld fails in binutils/libbfd References: <20000708200726.29818.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Richard Stanaford wrote: > > --- Kent Stewart wrote: > > > You must have missed the **HEADS UP** that they were breaking Stable > > while they MFC /binutils from 5-current to 4.1. > > > > Kent > > I'm sorry guys.. but MFC?? I've seen that term used repeatedly but have no > idea what it means.. > Merge From Current. Somewhere there is a page on www.FreeBSD.org with this and other abbreviation, but I can't find it now. Jim -- Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 13:15:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cx587235-a.chnd1.az.home.com (cx587235-a.chnd1.az.home.com [24.11.88.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64BA37B532 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:15:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jjreynold@home.com) Received: from whale.home-net (whale [192.168.1.2]) by cx587235-a.chnd1.az.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA54755; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:15:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jjreynold@home.com) Received: (from jjreynold@localhost) by whale.home-net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23116; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:15:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jjreynold@home.com) From: John Reynolds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14695.35795.462198.432825@whale.home-net> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:15:15 -0700 (MST) To: nimrodm@email.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP Busted? In-Reply-To: <39675CEC.BE15E450@bezeqint.net> References: <39675CEC.BE15E450@bezeqint.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under Emacs 20.6.1 Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Saturday, July 8, Nimrod Mesika wrote: ] > > Obviously we do... > Reboots immediately on my BP6 just after initializing APIC... > > Only cure I have found is to disable SMP and APIC_IO for now. Hmmmm. Good thing I haven't installed world and built a new kernel within the last few days .... on my BP6 things seem to be OK (except for 'random' lockups I've seen with massive disk I/O to ad4 during "-j16" buildworlds) as far as SMP goes. My uname output sez that I built and am running a kernel from Jul 5th if that helps people track down what has gone haywire FreeBSD dolphin 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 5 00:23:20 MST 2000 root@dolphin:/usr/src/sys/compile/DOLPHIN i386 -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= John Reynolds Chandler Capabilities Engineering, CDS, Intel Corporation jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com My opinions are mine, not Intel's. Running jjreynold@home.com FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE. FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://members.home.com/jjreynold/ Come join us!!! @ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 13:36:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bezeqint.net (mail-a.bezeqint.net [192.115.106.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F2337B9ED for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:36:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nimrodme@bezeqint.net) Received: from bezeqint.net ([212.179.166.241]) by mail.bezeqint.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0FXE00C1WBVATW@mail.bezeqint.net> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:35:35 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 23:33:18 +0300 From: Nimrod Mesika Subject: Re: SMP Busted? To: John Reynolds , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: nimrodm@email.com Message-id: <3967900E.3268C8F4@bezeqint.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <39675CEC.BE15E450@bezeqint.net> <14695.35795.462198.432825@whale.home-net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Reynolds wrote: > last few days .... on my BP6 things seem to be OK (except for 'random' lockups > I've seen with massive disk I/O to ad4 during "-j16" buildworlds) as far as SMP I've had these random lockups myself on this BP6 board. Seems like bad hardware but very difficult to explain to the Windows-oriented salesmen... They'll tell you try Windows and when it crashes go complain to MS :) > goes. My uname output sez that I built and am running a kernel from Jul 5th if > that helps people track down what has gone haywire > > FreeBSD dolphin 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 5 00:23:20 MST 2000 root@dolphin:/usr/src/sys/compile/DOLPHIN i386 I'm pretty sure the patches entered by David O'Brien on 7/7/2000 are the one to blame (I know he patched exception.s, apic_vector.s and maybe more). How does one use cvs to retrieve only those patches? I can't seem to be able to get the diffs between two different dates on RELENG_4, only on -current... David, if you're reading this... look at this example: This is from exception.s: IDTVEC(fpu) #if NNPX > 0 /* * Handle like an interrupt (except for accounting) so that we can * call npx_intr to clear the error. It would be better to handle * npx interrupts as traps. Nested interrupts would probably have * to be converted to ASTs. */ pushl $0 /* dummy error code */ pushl $0 /* dummy trap type */ pushal pushl %ds pushl %es /* now stack frame is a trap frame */ pushl %fs mov $KDSEL,%ax mov %ax,%ds mov %ax,%es MOVL_KPSEL_EAX mov %ax,%fs FAKE_MCOUNT(13*4(%esp)) And that's the code generated, as disassembled by gdb: (gdb) disassemble Xfpu Dump of assembler code for function Xfpu: 0xc020933c : push $0x0 0xc020933e : push $0x0 0xc0209340 : pusha 0xc0209341 : push %ds 0xc0209342 : push %es 0xc0209343 : push %fs 0xc0209345 : mov $0x10,%ax 0xc0209349 : mov %eax,%ds 0xc020934b : mov %eax,%es 0xc020934d : mov $0x18,%eax 0xc0209352 : mov %eax,%fs 0xc0209354 : lock incl 0xc02be6a4 0xc020935b : call 0xc0215e54 0xc0209360 : mov 0xc029551c,%eax 0xc0209365 : push %eax 0xc0209366 : push $0x0 0xc0209368 : call 0xc0224ab0 0xc020936d : incb 0xc0294e2c 0xc0209373 : jmp 0xc020d440 End of assembler dump. Does it make sense? (All these auto long/word selection seems fishy...) My 386 assembly needs serious refreshing I guess. -- Nimrod. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 14: 1:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [208.42.49.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB5A37BDB6 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 14:01:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: by gw.nectar.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EF0C19B37; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:01:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:01:42 -0500 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unification of CVSUP servers Message-ID: <20000708160142.B46112@spawn.nectar.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" , Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000708130049.A74152@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000708130049.A74152@lunatic.oneinsane.net>; from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net on Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 01:00:49PM -0700 X-Url: http://www.nectar.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 01:00:49PM -0700, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > With internat becoming part of the main stream with the rest of the > CVSUP servers and the crypto mode is there still going to be a nedd for > the USA_RESIDENT variable in /etc/make.conf. Yes, there are still patent issues, at least. -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 14:21:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDFDF37B7FE; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 14:21:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from se@freebsd.org) Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13B22c-0005tY-00; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 23:21:38 +0200 Received: from a6498.pppool.de ([213.6.100.152] helo=StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #3) id 13B22b-000061-00; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 23:21:38 +0200 Received: by StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 200) id C6DEBD7D; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:20:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:20:19 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Linh Pham , Richard Stanaford , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Stefan Esser Subject: Re: ADDENDUM : LC_TIME and STABLE.. Message-ID: <20000708222019.C2104@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: Stefan Esser References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 07:51:14PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-07-04 19:51 -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > > > Are you able to boot into kernel.old or the generic kernel on / ? > > The problem is that he now has a /bin/sh which can't run under 3.x because > it depends on 4.0 system calls. CSH can be used to recover from that situation, since it does not require any new system calls. Just enter "/bin/csh" when prompted for a single user shell. (Don't ask why I can guarantee that recovery is possible this way ;-) Regards, STefan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 14:21:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD45637B7FE; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 14:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from se@freebsd.org) Received: from [62.104.201.2] (helo=mx1.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13B22c-00060U-00; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 23:21:38 +0200 Received: from a6498.pppool.de ([213.6.100.152] helo=StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org) by mx1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13B22a-0004Sr-00; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 23:21:36 +0200 Received: by StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 200) id B20D8D55; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:13:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:13:41 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Stephen McKay Cc: Alan Edmonds , Bill Paul , Chris Wasser , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Stefan Esser Subject: Re: Strangeness with 4.0-S Message-ID: <20000708221341.B2104@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: Stefan Esser References: <200007030749.RAA13446@dungeon.home> <20000704140131.A1734@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> <200007041411.AAA18590@dungeon.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007041411.AAA18590@dungeon.home>; from mckay@thehub.com.au on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 12:11:08AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-07-05 00:11 +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: > On Tuesday, 4th July 2000, Stefan Esser wrote: > > >It is just not necessary to disable the optimization, since it > >will cost a few retransmissions (and the driver will know that > >the frame was not successfully sent and can retry immediately > >with the modified buffer setting). > > On my systems (multiple affected by this sort of thing) I get a long > and annoying pause as the card resets and renegotiates speed and half/full > duplex with the switch. It is very noticeable and quite frankly not > acceptable. I had to hack out all the clever auto fallback because > otherwise I would have thrown my computer out the window. Oh, there are renegotiations after each overrun ??? They should not be required at all. The Ethernet chip probably supports writing a new prefetch limit into the register while fully active ... I have looked at a number of Ethernet controller data sheets. There never was a warning that the chip must be quiescent when the "early send" limit is modified. > That's why I think that setting the default ever-so-slightly slower, but > without big hiccups, is better than the current situation. Of course, add > a "maximum performance" switch if you want, but no regular user will find > fault with a default of store and forward. Well, I'd rather have the driver changed to not require a re-negotiation of the transmission parameters. But as long as this is not the case, store-and-forward will at least hide that there is a problem ;-) Regards, STefan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 14:22: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEB937B7FE; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 14:22:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from se@freebsd.org) Received: from [194.97.50.135] (helo=mx2.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13B22o-000624-00; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 23:21:50 +0200 Received: from a6498.pppool.de ([213.6.100.152] helo=StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org) by mx2.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #3) id 13B22o-0001o6-00; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 23:21:50 +0200 Received: by StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 200) id 14CCED70; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:01:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:01:48 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Doug White Cc: Remy Nonnenmacher , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Stefan Esser Subject: Re: Fixing PCI device locations Message-ID: <20000708220148.A2104@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: Stefan Esser References: <200006261436.QAA10618@luxren2.boostworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 09:18:38AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-06-26 09:18 -0700, Doug White wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Remy Nonnenmacher wrote: > > I recently upgraded a server from 3.4 to 4-stable and was hurted by the > > PCI device scanning not done in the same order on the two versions. > > > > Mainly, the server have 6 SCSI busses over 3 devices and two PCI > > busses. (da0 on 3.4 ended up on da52 under 4-stable) > > > > While provisions are made for fixing SCSI controlers to busses (ieg: ahc > > to scbus) and disks to scbuses, is there a way to fix SCSI controlers > > to PCI locations ? > > > > (something like "device ahc0 on pci0.11.1") > > Not at this time, but it may appear at some time in the future, given an > enterprising individual. A great many people, including embedded systems > builders, would be thankful for such a feature. I had plans to improve the support for wired PCI devices that was in 3.0, but have not looked at the problem after the newbus modifications. There is one problem, which needs to be understood, but its not that hard ;-) The PCI probe reports bus numbers as assigned by the PCI BIOS. If we want to specify locations of wired devices, we should NOT use the bus number they are reported on, or bad things will happen, if some new PCI bridge is installed and all the buses are suddenly renumbered ... We need a way to assign "labels" to PCI buses. This may be best done like this: device pcibus1 at pci 0.10.0 device pcibus2 at pci 1.4.0 device ahc0 at pci 2.0.0 Keep in mind, that there may be a PCI bridge at 0.9.0, which already got bus number 1 assigned by the BIOS. For that reason, we now have two PCI number schemes: The bus numbers as programmed into the PCI chip-set and bridges, and our "logical" bus numbers, which are only used for reference in order to bind device driver instances to devices that are physically connected to some PCI slot (possibly via multiple bridges). The above lines should be interpreted to mean: device pcibus X at pci 0.10.0 device pcibus Y at pci X.4.0 device ahc0 at pci Y.0.0 and X and Y can come out as 3 and 5 respectively, for example (and would be reported in the boot log accordingly). This will confuse people that want to add a device on yet another PCI bus, since numbers in the config and numbers reported will always diverge, whenever a PCI bridge is added. But in order to assign fixed unit numbers to cards in certain slots, this would be better than nothing. And there just should be comments, that remind you that the intermediate bus numbers are only "labeled", not "wired". But the device is attached under a predetermined name, and that is what counts ;-) ( The situation is not that different from wired SCSI devices, just that a SCSI bus does not have the concept of a bus number, and we can thus choose scbus (unit) numbers without the risk of confusion. PCI buses have numbers assigned by the BIOS, long before we get a chance to state our preferences ;-) Anybody got a better concept ? Regards, STefan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 14:22:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A9437C0DD; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 14:22:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from se@freebsd.org) Received: from [62.104.201.2] (helo=mx1.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13B22j-0005uJ-00; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 23:21:45 +0200 Received: from a6498.pppool.de ([213.6.100.152] helo=StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org) by mx1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13B22i-0004TC-00; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 23:21:44 +0200 Received: by StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 200) id 6C674D86; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:54:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:54:53 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Paul Murphy Cc: Joe Greco , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , ler@lerctr.org, grog@lemis.com, Greg@fatcanary.com.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Stefan Esser Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000708225453.E2104@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: Stefan Esser References: <200007050229.VAA40330@aurora.sol.net> <3962A197.62560B50@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3962A197.62560B50@home.com>; from pnmurphy@home.com on Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 10:46:47PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-07-04 22:46 -0400, Paul Murphy wrote: > Is there a particular reason for going with the AMD's over Intel? When > buying computers I have always stayed with the Intel CPU's because I > thought it was similar to Soundblaster vs. others: all the others say > they are "Soundblaster compatible" so why not buy the real thing? Perhaps because the Soundblaster may have been the first to use some (low level) programming interface, but may not be the best hardware. I always avoided Creative products, since they just didn't seem as good as other companies offerings (except for products developed by companies they bought and rebranded, like Ensoniq PCI sound-cards). But with regard to using the AMD K6 in preference to Intel chips: There was a time when Intel considered details about their processors a trade secret, and it was not possibly to write a free compiler for the Pentium, that knew how to make good use of the second pipeline. There were very complex interdependencies. It often sped up a loop considerably, if a few NOPs were inserted at the right places, which is counterintutive, to say the least ;-) That is the reason, that the AMD K5 performed so much better under FreeBSD than the Pentium it was rated against. The K5 had an execution engine much like that later introduced by Intel in the PentiumPro (i.e. what every current i586 and up compatible chip except for VIA/Cyrix/IDT does: pre-process the i86 instructions into RISC instructions for multiple independent execution units). For that reason, the K5 did not depend on such specific optimizations as the Pentium to keep its pipeline going. With the (in)famous Appendix H being withheld from the GCC programmers, the Pentium only reached some 70% to 80% of its nominal performance ... If reliability (i.e. 7x24, year after year) is your primary goal, then choose whatever seems to be well supported and proven. But for a home system or non-critical workstation, I'd use what provides the best value for the money. And that has often been an AMD processor in a motherboard that had been declared obsolete by Intel years ago ;-) (In fact, I know a number of people running a K6-3 in their five year old Triton based mainboards. They easily beat my non-overclocked 300MHz Celeron A). Regards, STefan PS: Anybody seen any indications, that the K6-2+ or K6-3+ may become available as an upgrade processor ? Its low power consumption should make it ideal for old mainboards with an linear regulators. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 14:43:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D5B37B602; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 14:43:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.2/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id RAA27572; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:00:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <200007082200.RAA27572@aurora.sol.net> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: <20000708225453.E2104@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> from Stefan Esser at "Jul 8, 2000 10:54:53 pm" To: se@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:00:36 -0500 (CDT) Cc: pnmurphy@home.com, jgreco@ns.sol.net, jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com, ler@lerctr.org, grog@lemis.com, Greg@fatcanary.com.au, stable@freebsd.org, se@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > That is the reason, that the AMD K5 performed so much better under > FreeBSD than the Pentium it was rated against. The K5 had an execution > engine much like that later introduced by Intel in the PentiumPro (i.e. > what every current i586 and up compatible chip except for VIA/Cyrix/IDT > does: pre-process the i86 instructions into RISC instructions for multiple > independent execution units). For that reason, the K5 did not depend on > such specific optimizations as the Pentium to keep its pipeline going. I never really saw that much of a win, but then I never played with the K5 that much. I hit the AMD stuff just as the K6/200 and 233 were coming into the world. > With the (in)famous Appendix H being withheld from the GCC programmers, > the Pentium only reached some 70% to 80% of its nominal performance ... (mutters: "At incorrectly computing floating point...") > If reliability (i.e. 7x24, year after year) is your primary goal, then > choose whatever seems to be well supported and proven. But for a home > system or non-critical workstation, I'd use what provides the best value > for the money. And that has often been an AMD processor in a motherboard > that had been declared obsolete by Intel years ago ;-) Hell, for a critical system, I'll go AMD any day. I just got back to my desk, having just upgraded a system to a K6-III-400... :-) My old ASUS SP3G AMD 486DX5/133 ran for about five years without any problems, which has pretty much become the standard against which I judge other systems. Talk about your basic 7x24 reliability, it had a 500+ day uptime more than once in its life (one was over 700). How many systems can claim that? > (In fact, I know a number of people running a K6-3 in their five year > old Triton based mainboards. They easily beat my non-overclocked 300MHz > Celeron A). Triton? Maybe Triton-II. I'm not sure if they would work in a Triton, since most Triton boards didn't have the regulators. But you can stick one in a T-II board like a Rev. 3.0 or 3.1 ASUS P/I-P55T2P4 with nothing other than one extra jumper. And they pound my other systems, short of something like a BX PIII-550, into the ground. > PS: Anybody seen any indications, that the K6-2+ or K6-3+ may become > available as an upgrade processor ? Its low power consumption > should make it ideal for old mainboards with an linear regulators. I don't know, but I believe AMD is probably going to discontinue the Socket/Super-Socket-7 stuff in the near future. Damn shame, but on the other hand, it's about time. I'm not sure what implications that may have for the plus (mobile) versions. Presumably they run cooler than their non-plus parts... Me, I'm just reaping the benefits of all the advances in hardware. I can now afford to sit here and purchase recycled hardware, like Pentium grade stuff that nobody wants anymore, get it for a song, and turn around and turn it into Real Equipment. -- ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 15:35:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scooby.lineone.net (doggy.lineone.net [194.75.152.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D83937B594 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 15:35:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from war-zone@uk2.net) Received: from galaxy (host213-1-2-57.host.btclick.com [213.1.2.57]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA04606 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:34:46 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <00e201bfe92c$f397ade0$390201d5@galaxy> From: "Stone" To: Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:36:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcel Moolenaar" To: "Kent Stewart" Cc: "Lint^^" ; "Chad R. Larson" ; "Warner Losh" ; ; ; ; Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 11:01 PM Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop > Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > My sequence was > > > > 1 make buildworld > > configing and trying to make a kernel didn't work here. > > 2 make buildkernel KERNEL=OPAL > > 3 make installkernel KERNEL=OPAL > > 4 reboot to single user mode with /OPAL -s > > 4a saved /kernel and moved /OPAL to /kernel and all of the chflags. > > 5 make installworld > > 6 me> This is exactly what you need to do right now. In the near future we > won't require steps 3 and 4/4a anymore and thus have a single pass > source upgrade... > By this do you mean having to reboot into single user mode to do a make installworld will become a thing of the past? That will be a godsend for me (my fbsd server is colocated) :) Bye Chris Hearn - chris-hearn@lineone.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 15:41:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035F737B60B; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 15:36:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA66846; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 00:35:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) To: Troy Arie Cobb Cc: "'Alex Popa'" , "Dan O'Connor" , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: securing the boot process (again?!?) References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 09 Jul 2000 00:35:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: Troy Arie Cobb's message of "Tue, 4 Jul 2000 06:48:12 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Troy Arie Cobb writes: > There are small locks you can buy which fit into a floppy drive > and secure it with a key. If your users don't need to put floppies > in on a regular basis (but perhaps YOU do occasionally), then > this can be a good choice to avoid booting the evil-floppy-kernel. RTFDL (Remove The Floppy Drive, Luke) DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 15:49:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046A137B594 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 15:48:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22242 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 18:48:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 18:48:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP Busted? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, James Johnson wrote: >I just updated and rebuilt world/kernel. My machine is now rebooting over >and over. Do we have an issue with SMP in -STABLE now? > >I did this two days ago w/o problems. I'm reporting a "me too" for someone else who is too wussy to report problems for himself. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 16: 3:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BE537B594 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:03:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13844; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:03:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007082303.QAA13844@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop In-Reply-To: <00e201bfe92c$f397ade0$390201d5@galaxy> from Stone at "Jul 8, 0 11:36:23 pm" To: war-zone@uk2.net (Stone) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:03:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Stone wrote: > By this do you mean having to reboot into single user mode to do a > make installworld will become a thing of the past? > > That will be a godsend for me (my fbsd server is colocated) :) My server is co-located as well. I admit it isn't terribly loaded, but I've never had a problem doing an installworld while it is in multi-user. In fact, sometimes I launch a "make world" timed to finish around 2am, and haven't been bit yet. Of course, YMMV. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 16:15:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from botbay.net (botbay.net [151.197.159.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553E337B64B for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:15:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wcampbel@botbay.net) Received: from localhost (wcampbel@localhost) by botbay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA34725; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:15:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wcampbel@botbay.net) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:15:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Walter Campbell To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: Stone , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop In-Reply-To: <200007082303.QAA13844@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > As I recall, Stone wrote: > > By this do you mean having to reboot into single user mode to do a > > make installworld will become a thing of the past? > > > > That will be a godsend for me (my fbsd server is colocated) :) > > My server is co-located as well. I admit it isn't terribly loaded, > but I've never had a problem doing an installworld while it is in > multi-user. In fact, sometimes I launch a "make world" timed to > finish around 2am, and haven't been bit yet. > As is mine. In about 6 or 7 make buildworld/installworld's, not a single problem. Moderate load, not too many people logged in, and I ran it on a relatively light day. I also ran world's on my work's Squid cache which got a decent load, no problems with that either Kudos to the FreeBSD coders To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 16:25:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from netmint.com (netmint.com [207.106.21.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF3937B721; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:25:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@netmint.com) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by netmint.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07445; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:22:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:22:23 -0400 (EDT) From: NetMint Support To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Troy Arie Cobb , "'Alex Popa'" , "Dan O'Connor" , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: securing the boot process (again?!?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >RTFDL (Remove The Floppy Drive, Luke) > >DES >-- >Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no By the same token: RTCDL (Remove The CD-ROM Drive, Luke) DBFODL (Disable Boot-From-Other-Devices, Luke) DNBvEL (Disable Network Boot via Ethernet, Luke) RESPL (Remove External SCSI Port, Luke) Same applies to keyboard, mouse, USB and other ports. The case should then be a metal safe box with an ethernet port, stored in a "cold room" to prevent overheating and access through ventialation holes... Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 16:37:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE9B37B758 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:37:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA26282; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:37:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:37:01 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 modules Message-ID: <20000708163701.C26222@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from jedgar@fxp.org on Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 09:41:57AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 09:41:57AM -0400, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote: > Modules appear to be installed both during installworld and when > installing a new kernel. Was module-building with the kernel meant to be > MFC'd? yes, and it was. The bit that disabled building with world was intentionally not committed yet. > If so, shouldn't we disable building/installing during the world > build/install? It will be this weekend. I wanted an overlap peroid to make sure we didn't get into a state where modules weren't installed at all. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 16:38:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203CE37B721 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:38:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA26292; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:38:06 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Cc: Salvo Bartolotta , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 modules Message-ID: <20000708163806.D26222@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000708.15043400@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from jedgar@fxp.org on Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 10:06:36AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 10:06:36AM -0400, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote: > I understand the purpose behind it. The problem now is that modules are > built/installed twice, during world *and* kernel. It is a transitionary thing. I want to be causious in -stable and doing it twice is better than not at all. ;-) -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 16:40:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C928237B8A9 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:40:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA26305; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:40:01 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: "Chris D. Faulhaber" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 modules Message-ID: <20000708164001.E26222@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000708.15402400@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000708.15402400@bartequi.ottodomain.org>; from bartequi@inwind.it on Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 03:40:24PM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 03:40:24PM +0000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: > I remember reading about a command/instruction to *disable* the > modules build, If either "MODULES_WITH_WORLD" or "NO_MODULES" is defined, modules will not be built with the kernel. After I MFC the bits, modules will only be built with the world if "MODULES_WITH_WORLD" is defined. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 16:49:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E2037B54E for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:49:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA26360; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:49:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:49:29 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: nimrodm@email.com Cc: John Reynolds , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP Busted? Message-ID: <20000708164928.F26222@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <39675CEC.BE15E450@bezeqint.net> <14695.35795.462198.432825@whale.home-net> <3967900E.3268C8F4@bezeqint.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3967900E.3268C8F4@bezeqint.net>; from nimrodme@bezeqint.net on Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 11:33:18PM +0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 11:33:18PM +0300, Nimrod Mesika wrote: > I'm pretty sure the patches entered by David O'Brien on 7/7/2000 are the > one to blame (I know he patched exception.s, apic_vector.s and maybe > more). How does one use cvs to retrieve only those patches? I can't seem > to be able to get the diffs between two different dates on RELENG_4, > only on -current... I committed a MFC for mpboot.s. Please make sure you have rev 1.13.2.1 and let me know if it fixes your problem. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 16:55:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1240037B639; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:55:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id D2EFC9B1C; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40A3BA11; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:55:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: David O'Brien Cc: nimrodm@email.com, John Reynolds , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP Busted? In-Reply-To: <20000708164928.F26222@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 11:33:18PM +0300, Nimrod Mesika wrote: > > I'm pretty sure the patches entered by David O'Brien on 7/7/2000 are the > > one to blame (I know he patched exception.s, apic_vector.s and maybe > > more). How does one use cvs to retrieve only those patches? I can't seem > > to be able to get the diffs between two different dates on RELENG_4, > > only on -current... > > I committed a MFC for mpboot.s. Please make sure you have rev 1.13.2.1 > and let me know if it fixes your problem. > That seems to have done the trick. Thanks! ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 16:57:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vicosa.dpi.ufv.br (vicosa.dpi.ufv.br [200.17.74.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1621737BB02 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:57:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kernel@tdnet.com.br) Received: from tdnet.com.br (port10.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.110]) by vicosa.dpi.ufv.br (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id UAA23298 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 20:56:41 -0200 (GRNLNDDT) Message-ID: <39679589.F88C4B05@tdnet.com.br> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 20:56:41 +0000 From: Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: compiling 4Stable error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While making 4.0Stable kernel, i get this: cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../i386/i386/bioscall.s /tmp/ccQQ1846.s: Assembler messages: /tmp/ccQQ1846.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction /tmp/ccQQ1846.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/ETOSHA. Does anybody have ever got such a error ? How can i correct it? Thanks a lot for your time and cooperation! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 17: 1:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604BF37BCB9; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:01:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA68622; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:01:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:01:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unification of CVSUP servers In-Reply-To: <20000708130049.A74152@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > With internat becoming part of the main stream with the rest of the > CVSUP servers and the crypto mode is there still going to be a nedd for > the USA_RESIDENT variable in /etc/make.conf. Yes: we still have the RSA patent to worry about for a few more months. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 17: 4:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3102.mail.yahoo.com (web3102.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7794037B9B3 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:04:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000709000409.13386.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.141.200.155] by web3102.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 17:04:09 PDT Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:04:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Synching my src... To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey all, If I remember correctly I saw a HEADS UP regarding STABLE being broken for a while until something was fixed. I have, therefore, been holding off grabbing the latest STABLE sources until the all clear was given. Is there an ETA or am I unclear with what is going on? Thanks! -Richard __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 17: 7:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0B337C0CC for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:06:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000703) id e6906Y321906; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:06:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007090006.e6906Y321906@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: Synching my src... In-Reply-To: <20000709000409.13386.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com> "from Richard Stanaford at Jul 8, 2000 05:04:09 pm" To: Richard Stanaford Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:06:34 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UNKNOWN-8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Seems to be ok now... LER > > Hey all, > > If I remember correctly I saw a HEADS UP regarding STABLE being broken for a > while until something was fixed. I have, therefore, been holding off grabbing > the latest STABLE sources until the all clear was given. > > Is there an ETA or am I unclear with what is going on? > > Thanks! > -Richard > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 17:12:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.flashcom.net (3ff83059.dsl.flashcom.net [63.248.48.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E26137B72D for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:12:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cgaff@mail.flashcom.net) Received: (from cgaff@localhost) by mail.flashcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05180; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:07:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cgaff) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:07:57 -0500 From: "Corey G." To: Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: compiling 4Stable error Message-ID: <20000708190757.A5160@flashcom.net> References: <39679589.F88C4B05@tdnet.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <39679589.F88C4B05@tdnet.com.br>; from kernel@tdnet.com.br on Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 08:56:41PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the identical error to the tee yesterday. It was resolved by doing a make installworld and make buildworld. After this, it compiled fine. Corey On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 08:56:41PM +0000, Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios wrote: > While making 4.0Stable kernel, i get this: > > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls > -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes > -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi > -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include > opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 > ./../i386/i386/bioscall.s > /tmp/ccQQ1846.s: Assembler messages: > /tmp/ccQQ1846.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > instruction > /tmp/ccQQ1846.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > instruction > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/ETOSHA. > > > Does anybody have ever got such a error ? > How can i correct it? > > Thanks a lot for your time and cooperation! > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ---end quoted text--- -- Best Regards, Corey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 17:45:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu09.email.msn.com [207.46.181.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC96E37B517; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:44:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bonk1138@msn.com) Received: from lando - 63.15.0.107 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:44:33 -0700 From: "James Johnson" To: , Cc: "John Reynolds" , Subject: RE: SMP Busted? Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:43:21 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20000708164928.F26222@dragon.nuxi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG using mpboot.s 1.13.2.1 has fixed the problem. Thanks David. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David O'Brien Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 4:49 PM To: nimrodm@email.com Cc: John Reynolds; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP Busted? On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 11:33:18PM +0300, Nimrod Mesika wrote: > I'm pretty sure the patches entered by David O'Brien on 7/7/2000 are the > one to blame (I know he patched exception.s, apic_vector.s and maybe > more). How does one use cvs to retrieve only those patches? I can't seem > to be able to get the diffs between two different dates on RELENG_4, > only on -current... I committed a MFC for mpboot.s. Please make sure you have rev 1.13.2.1 and let me know if it fixes your problem. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 18:30:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36CB37BD46 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 18:30:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA26701; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 18:30:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 18:30:28 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Richard Stanaford Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synching my src... Message-ID: <20000708183027.G26222@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20000709000409.13386.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000709000409.13386.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com>; from rsstan@yahoo.com on Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 05:04:09PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 05:04:09PM -0700, Richard Stanaford wrote: > If I remember correctly I saw a HEADS UP regarding STABLE being broken for a > while until something was fixed. I have, therefore, been holding off grabbing > the latest STABLE sources until the all clear was given. You did remember correctly, but you seem to have missed the "all's OK" message that went out 2 days ago. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 19:40:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88E637B517 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:40:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@cup.hp.com) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel3.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C3FB8E; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cup.hp.com (p1000180.nsr.hp.com [15.109.0.180]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id TAA19518; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3967E618.4ECC086E@cup.hp.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 19:40:24 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stone Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make dwarf1.c. Stop References: <00e201bfe92c$f397ade0$390201d5@galaxy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stone wrote: > > > won't require steps 3 and 4/4a anymore and thus have a single pass > > source upgrade... > > > > By this do you mean having to reboot into single user mode to do a make > installworld will become a thing of the past? No. I meant that you won't need to install a new kernel and reboot before you can do an installworld during upgrades. You don't really need to be in single user mode to do an installworld anyway. You might hit upon a conflict though, so it's not recommended... -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 19:58:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zinc.singnet.com.sg (smtp3.singnet.com.sg [165.21.7.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4F137B56A for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:58:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from twchan@singnet.com.sg) Received: from geros.twnet.org (hs0741.singnet.com.sg [165.21.199.32]) by zinc.singnet.com.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17796 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:58:28 +0800 (SGT) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:57:03 +0800 (SGT) From: Chan Tur Wei X-Sender: twchan@zargrok To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: stable make buildworld broke? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, make buildworld breaks on my latest cvsup. Reason: file system full :) With the crypto sources in, it has become near impossible to build all the sources with my current disk slice/partitioning. Is there any where to resize the partitions without losing data? Regards -T.W.Chan- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 20:46:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3103.mail.yahoo.com (web3103.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59D9737B6EB for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 20:46:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000709034629.17975.qmail@web3103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.141.203.252] by web3103.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 20:46:29 PDT Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 20:46:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: Synching my src... To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- David O'Brien wrote: > On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 05:04:09PM -0700, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > If I remember correctly I saw a HEADS UP regarding STABLE being broken for > a > > while until something was fixed. I have, therefore, been holding off > grabbing > > the latest STABLE sources until the all clear was given. > > You did remember correctly, but you seem to have missed the "all's OK" > message that went out 2 days ago. Aye.. I did miss it. But something I did not miss was a message that was sent out by someone yesterday referring to the "breakage" in the present tense... as in things were still "broken." Ambiguity is not a good thing. I will probably need to pull most of the src tree in order to go STABLE from 4.0-RELEASE and that is a seven hour download across a 56K dialup connection... a significant investment of time. So you can understand my caution. Thank you for the responses, -Richard __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 21:10:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front001.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A8337BFF8 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front001.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 12940884; Sun, 09 Jul 2000 00:10:22 -0400 From: David Uhring To: Chan Tur Wei , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stable make buildworld broke? Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:08:44 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00070823101400.01002@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 08 Jul 2000, Chan Tur Wei wrote: > Hi, > > make buildworld breaks on my latest cvsup. Reason: file system full > :) With the crypto sources in, it has become near impossible to build > all the sources with my current disk slice/partitioning. Is there any > where to resize the partitions without losing data? > > > Regards > > -T.W.Chan- > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Do you have space on other partitions? If you do, you can sym-link some of the /usr/src space or perhaps /usr/obj to one of the other partitions. dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 21:44:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wysoft.tzo.com (c481444-a.bremtn1.wa.home.com [24.12.235.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896A837C0A0 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:44:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wysoft@wysoft.tzo.com) Received: from localhost (wysoft@localhost) by wysoft.tzo.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e694iXt14455; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:44:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Wyman To: nimrodm@email.com Cc: John Reynolds , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP Busted? In-Reply-To: <3967900E.3268C8F4@bezeqint.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Nimrod Mesika wrote: > I've had these random lockups myself on this BP6 board. Seems like bad > hardware but very difficult to explain to the Windows-oriented > salesmen... They'll tell you try Windows and when it crashes go complain > to MS :) As for bad hardware, we've had reports of this behavior from users of Pentium Pro and Pentium classic SMP systems. Not that it couldn't be a problem though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 21:48:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wysoft.tzo.com (c481444-a.bremtn1.wa.home.com [24.12.235.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F65737BFD8 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:48:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wysoft@wysoft.tzo.com) Received: from localhost (wysoft@localhost) by wysoft.tzo.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e694mip14469; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:48:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Wyman To: nimrodm@email.com Cc: John Reynolds , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP Busted? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Jeff Wyman wrote: > > > On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Nimrod Mesika wrote: > > > I've had these random lockups myself on this BP6 board. Seems like bad > > hardware but very difficult to explain to the Windows-oriented > > salesmen... They'll tell you try Windows and when it crashes go complain > > to MS :) > > As for bad hardware, we've had reports of this behavior from users of > Pentium Pro and Pentium classic SMP systems. Not that it couldn't be a > problem though. Whoops, in the process of checking 159 new messages from -stable, I sent this message too soon before seeing the MFC reply. I need to start replying _afterwards_ It's ok to admit my mistakes... Right? :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 22: 0: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC7037B5E7; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:59:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA93740; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:59:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:59:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Richard Stanaford Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synching my src... In-Reply-To: <20000709034629.17975.qmail@web3103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Richard Stanaford wrote: > I will probably need to pull most of the src tree in order to go > STABLE from 4.0-RELEASE and that is a seven hour download across a 56K > dialup connection... a significant investment of time. So you can > understand my caution. Well, suppose you pick a bad date to grab the sources. After your 7 hour initial investment, it becomes a 5 minute additional investment to update to a later date where it's fixed :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 22:13:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Post-Office.UH.EDU (Post-Office.UH.EDU [129.7.1.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B00437B6F5 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:13:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zdenko@CS.UH.EDU) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) id <0FXE00M01ZUMH1@Post-Office.UH.EDU> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 00:13:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from CS.UH.EDU (zeus.cs.uh.edu [129.7.192.1]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) with SMTP id <0FXE00M05ZULIJ@Post-Office.UH.EDU> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 09 Jul 2000 00:13:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from heracles.CS.UH.EDU by CS.UH.EDU (COSC/UH-zeus) id AA04807; Sun, 09 Jul 2000 00:12:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: by heracles.CS.UH.EDU (4.1/UH-heracles) id AA11134; Sun, 09 Jul 2000 00:11:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 00:12:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Zdenko Tomasic Subject: sym: scsi parity errors for cdrom To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: zdenko@CS.UH.EDU Message-id: <10007090512.AA04807@CS.UH.EDU> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I see unrecovered SCSI parity errors under both 3.4- and 4.0 FBSD. I checked cables, connectors and terminations and all seem to be okay. There are other devices on this scsi bus but only cdrom shows errors. It looks like my UltraPlex PX 32CS is at fault. Audio works fine (even while as scsi errors abound). Can anyone interpret the following errors codes from sym driver? tnx. Jul 8 20:21:27 localhost /kernel: sym0: SCSI parity error detected: SCR1=1 DBC=11000000 SBCL=29 Jul 8 20:21:27 localhost /kernel: sym0: SCSI parity error detected: SCR1=1 DBC=11000000 SBCL=29 Jul 8 20:21:27 localhost /kernel: sym0: unexpected disconnect Jul 8 20:21:27 localhost /kernel: sym0: unexpected disconnect Jul 8 20:21:27 localhost /kernel: (pass0:sym0:0:0:0): unrecovered SCSI parity error. Jul 8 20:21:27 localhost /kernel: (pass0:sym0:0:0:0): unrecovered SCSI parity error. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 22:31:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5B937B6EB for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:31:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.2/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id AAA60599 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 00:48:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <200007090548.AAA60599@aurora.sol.net> Subject: 4.*-stable sysinstall ... custom dist problems To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 00:48:35 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having sysinstall problems. I used to be able to do this, and I can't seem to anymore. I was wondering if anyone could verify my theory. For a long time, I've rolled custom distributions and .tar.gz'd them, put them into bin.aa, did a cksum and patched bin.inf, and simply used sysinstall to pop them onto a system. I seem to be unable to get this to work, now, under 4.0. It's worse because I'm trying to do it on a laptop, and every iteration of try-something-else takes quite a bit of typing to set up (plus forgotten things that scrap a given boot). I thought it was just my laptop, until I decided to see if it would go and install a standard load - and it did. Pieces = 1 cksum.aa = 1770647625 465713122 is what I'm trying to load. I experimented a bit and it seems to me that maybe there's about a 300K chunk size limit now, which really sucks because splitting that distro up with split ends up with "too many pieces". Is there, in fact, a chunk size limit now? Obviously I can work around this, but it's inconvenient and unfortunate if so. :-/ Thanks for any hints, -- ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 23: 2:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spider.forumone.com (spider.forumone.com [207.32.101.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3C737C0CD for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:02:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jo@spider.forumone.com) Received: by spider.forumone.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8D07E17B76E; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 02:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spider.forumone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853335008D for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 02:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 02:03:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Joakim Ryden To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Still breaking for me Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've cvsupped a few times this week now and the buildworld keeps breaking at the same place so I'm assuming I'm doing _something_ wrong but I really have no clue what's going on. Anyone? I'll be more than happy to provide any information needed. Where it breaks: -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fade/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -c setdef1.c ld -Bshareable -o fade_saver.ko setdef0.o fade_saver.kld setdef1.o ===> sys/modules/syscons/fire *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons. *** Error code 1 Regards, Jo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 23:18:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E4337BA98 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:18:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix, from userid 1850) id 0A1A8E4A8C; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 01:17:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F3FE0C1C; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 01:17:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 01:17:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeremy Shaffner To: ml@seeberg.dk Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fresh 4.0-STABLE install possible?? In-Reply-To: <200006021230.OAA20098@www.menzor.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 2 Jun 100 ml@seeberg.dk wrote: > Ehh, just a few months ago it was possible to download 4.0-STABLE snapshots > from current.freebsd.org. But not anymore 4.0 is no longer -CURRENT. Snapshots are on releng4.freebsd.org. --- Jeremy Shaffner System & Network Administrator JORSM Internet jer@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com/~jer/pgp.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 8 23:37:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3101.mail.yahoo.com (web3101.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DFB037B549 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000709063707.28722.qmail@web3101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.141.200.79] by web3101.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 23:37:07 PDT Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:37:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: Synching my src... To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > > I will probably need to pull most of the src tree in order to go > > STABLE from 4.0-RELEASE and that is a seven hour download across a 56K > > dialup connection... a significant investment of time. So you can > > understand my caution. > > Well, suppose you pick a bad date to grab the sources. After your 7 hour > initial investment, it becomes a 5 minute additional investment to update > to a later date where it's fixed :-) > > Kris :-P You're right my friend. Heh. I overlooked the fact that a tree sync need not be an all or nothing venture. I'm grabbing them now. -Richard __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! 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