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I upgraded 4.0 -> 4.1 today via make world.

I just noticed a message that ipfw core dumped:

Jul 30 02:06:42 soup /kernel: pid 21706 (ipfw), uid 0: exited on \
        signal 11 (core dumped)

Do I remember correctly that signal 11 is usually hardware-related?
FWIW, I couldn't find the core file.  Where would it get written?
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Arcady Genkin <antipode@thpoon.com> writes:

> I upgraded 4.0 -> 4.1 today via make world.
> 
> I just noticed a message that ipfw core dumped:
> 
> Jul 30 02:06:42 soup /kernel: pid 21706 (ipfw), uid 0: exited on \
>         signal 11 (core dumped)
> 
> Do I remember correctly that signal 11 is usually hardware-related?
> FWIW, I couldn't find the core file.  Where would it get written?

Sorry to follow up to myself, but I just received email from cron with
security check output, and have a coredump in there too:

,----
| checking for passwordless accounts:
| Segmentation fault - core dumped
`----

What's going on?
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Jul 30  0:29: 0 2000
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Hi there,

Does anyone know if there are plans to support PPPoE outta the box? (without
recompiling the kernel)  I'm not sure how many people are affected by this,
but not being able to do a PPPoE install from the boot disks is a bugger.

- Will



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On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 05:57:16PM -0700, Philippe Le Berre wrote:
> Did I miss something 
> with Perl when doing make buildworld & make installworld?
---end quoted text---

Isn't there something in UPGRADING.TXT about recompiling Perl modules when
going from 3 to 4?
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On 30 Jul 2000, at 11:10, andrew@ugh.net.au wrote:

> Are you using an HTTP proxy? Have you tried the -b and/or -t options? I get
> similar errors (and always have) if I don't use -b.

I hate it when I have to retract something. A simple test worked with the 
4.0-stable fetch under 4.1-stable, but more complex tasks fail:

Receiving /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs2/Makefile.1fetch: www.freebsd.org: 
Inappropriate ioctl for device
/home/dan/walkports/fetch-cvs-file.sh : Download failure
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Jul 30  6: 4:42 2000
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At Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:12:39 -0700,
Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com> wrote:
> > Is it worth doing a (non-CD) 4.1.5 release the day after the patent expires?
> 
> Why?  It's not as if the RSA code is bundled with the system, and to
> get it into such a state would probably take more than a day. :-)

Does this mean snapshot on releng4.FreeBSD.org will have int'l version
of RSA code (compiled librsa) after September?

# current.jp.FreeBSD.org has snapshots which is build with
# USA_RESIDENT=NO.  So we (outside US) can install "RSA ready" system
# via ftp...


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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Jul 30  6:26:34 2000
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Greetings, 

    I had posted to this list during the 4.1-RC phase about OpenSSH
    v2.1 vs. v2.1.1p4 and my UnixWare box. 

    I finally got around to checking the config files, and with identical
    config files, both work just fine. 

    Here are the diffs, and the .old file breaks, but the other one works. 


--- ssh_config.old	Sun Jul 23 19:30:33 2000
+++ ssh_config	Sun Jul 30 08:22:19 2000
@@ -1,8 +1,6 @@
 # This is ssh client systemwide configuration file.  This file provides 
 # defaults for users, and the values can be changed in per-user configuration
 # files or on the command line.
-#
-# $FreeBSD: src/crypto/openssh/ssh_config,v 1.2.2.1 2000/06/09 07:10:21 kris Exp $
 
 # Configuration data is parsed as follows:
 #  1. command line options
@@ -14,20 +12,20 @@
 
 # Site-wide defaults for various options
 
- Host *
-   ForwardAgent yes
-   ForwardX11 yes
+# Host *
+#   ForwardAgent yes
+#   ForwardX11 yes
 #   RhostsAuthentication yes
-   RhostsRSAAuthentication yes
-   RSAAuthentication yes
-   PasswordAuthentication yes
+#   RhostsRSAAuthentication yes
+#   RSAAuthentication yes
+#   PasswordAuthentication yes
 #   FallBackToRsh yes
 #   UseRsh no
 #   BatchMode no
 #   CheckHostIP yes
-   StrictHostKeyChecking no
-   IdentityFile ~/.ssh/identity
-   Port 22
-   Protocol 2,1
-   Cipher blowfish
-   EscapeChar ~
+#   StrictHostKeyChecking no
+#   IdentityFile ~/.ssh/identity
+#   Port 22
+#   Protocol 2,1
+#   Cipher blowfish
+#   EscapeChar ~
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Jul 30  7:35:39 2000
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At 6:26 PM -0700 7/29/00, Tom wrote:
>On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Philippe Le Berre wrote:
>
>...
>>  DBD::Mysql <<Can't load mysql.so ... can't find libmysql.so.9...>>
>>  oops.  I have tried to delete & re-install the Mysql perl modules but
>...
>
>   If you get an error that a shared library can't be loaded, you should
>verify if you have it.  libmysqlclient.so.X is included with MySQL.  If
>you have it, you should see why the dynamic linker can't find it.
>Probably because the path to the library is no longer looked at by
>ldconfig during bootup (see /etc/rc.conf).  A quick fix is:
>
>   ldconfig -m <full-path-to-library-directory>

That was it, thanks!

-philippe


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[CC'ed to phk since he commited the warning message to
 sys/kern/kern_conf.c so he probably knows about this :-) ]

When playing around with 4.1-STABLE, I get these
messages during boot:

fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
fd1: <1200-KB 5.25" drive> on fdc0 drive 1
WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s cdevsw[]
WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s bmaj

There have been other people reporting the same on the
mailinglists but nobody was able to explain them...

Any hints?

	-Andre


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In message <20000730191653.A74599@curry.mchp.siemens.de>, Andre Albsmeier writes:
>[CC'ed to phk since he commited the warning message to
> sys/kern/kern_conf.c so he probably knows about this :-) ]
>
>When playing around with 4.1-STABLE, I get these
>messages during boot:
>
>fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
>fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
>fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
>fd1: <1200-KB 5.25" drive> on fdc0 drive 1
>WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s cdevsw[]
>WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s bmaj
>
>There have been other people reporting the same on the
>mailinglists but nobody was able to explain them...

They are non-fatal warnings that the cdevsw registration happens
twice in the fd driver.

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I cvsup'ed yesterday (29/7/2000) rebuilt world and kernel and now it
seems like IPFW refuses to add new rules:

#ipfw list
65535 allow ip from any to any
## Dynamic rules:
00000 0 0 (T 0, # 0) ty 0 ip, 0.0.0.0 0 <-> 0.0.0.0 0


#ipfw add 50 deny ip from any to any
00050 deny ip from any to any
ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument

#dmesg
...
DUMMYNET initialized (000608)
IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based
forwarding enabled, default to accept, unlimited logging
...


Anyone else experiencing the same problem?

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Can you post your config file?  I tried to mimic the parts from dmesg you
pasted with kernel options in my kernel from approx 2am 29th EST but I
dont get the error or the part about Dynamic rules.  

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Nimrod Mesika wrote:

>I cvsup'ed yesterday (29/7/2000) rebuilt world and kernel and now it
>seems like IPFW refuses to add new rules:
>
>#ipfw list
>65535 allow ip from any to any
>## Dynamic rules:
>00000 0 0 (T 0, # 0) ty 0 ip, 0.0.0.0 0 <-> 0.0.0.0 0
>
>
>#ipfw add 50 deny ip from any to any
>00050 deny ip from any to any
>ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument
>
>#dmesg
>...
>DUMMYNET initialized (000608)
>IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based
>forwarding enabled, default to accept, unlimited logging
>...
>
>
>Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
>
>-- 
>Nimrod.
>http://www.geocities.com/rodd_27
>
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On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:51:03PM -0400, Adam wrote:
> Can you post your config file?  I tried to mimic the parts from
> dmesg you pasted with kernel options in my kernel from approx 2am
> 29th EST but I dont get the error or the part about Dynamic rules.  

Well, I can send you the whole file but what seems relevant
is the following:

options         IPFIREWALL
options         IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options         IPFIREWALL_FORWARD
options         IPDIVERT
options         TCPDEBUG
options         SOFTUPDATES
options         DUMMYNET


DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT was added after the error was discovered (can't
connect to the net as the default was deny all).

I also tried compiling without IPFIREWALL_FORWARD (this was my
latest addition just after I cvsup'ed). Same results.


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I have been having some trouble with telnet on a specific machine
since a make-world a week ago. I've traced the problem to something
specifically to do with the "secure" version of telnet, which is the
one that ends up getting installed.

If I go up into the object tree to check the "regular" telnet out,

  [101:~] cd /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet
  [102:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet] ./telnet nsmail
  Trying 1.2.3.4...
  Connected to nsmail.myorg.org
  Escape character is '^]'.

  login: 

But if I go to secure telnet,

  [103:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet] cd ../../secure/usr.bin/telnet
  [104:/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr.bin/telnet] ./telnet nsmail
  nsmail: No address associated with hostname

It seems like the host lookup is broken. Note that those commands
really were run back-to-back. The fact that one works and that all
other commands do not seem to have trouble with host lookups makes me
think the problem is with the secure telnet.

Any ideas what to do? I did rebuild the secure telnet, no joy. Didn't
do a complete make-world, not without some hope it might help.
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Hi, in 4.1-stable today with a build from the 29th I
noticed that invoking less as more doesnt emulate the function of the b
key as more would have.  It just beeps whereas more would go back a
page.  I realize I could use pageup for this but it just suprised me and
wanted to bring it up incase someone felt it was worth
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Hi All,

I have a FreeBSD Stable 3.4 system running with Bind 8.2.2 and Ipfilter
3.3.16. I want to Cvsup this system, but I don't want to compile the
"contrib stuff". What do I have to do to contol what is being build? Is it
possible to say this program is build and that not? I just want the minimal
nessesary to upgrade. Al the programs or servers run on a system I compile
myself from a downloaded tar file.

Many thanx in advance.


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On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Info wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I have a FreeBSD Stable 3.4 system running with Bind 8.2.2 and Ipfilter
> 3.3.16. I want to Cvsup this system, but I don't want to compile the
> "contrib stuff". What do I have to do to contol what is being build? Is it
> possible to say this program is build and that not? I just want the minimal
> nessesary to upgrade. Al the programs or servers run on a system I compile
> myself from a downloaded tar file.
> 

See /etc/make.conf (3.x) or /etc/defaults/make.conf (4.x, 5.x).  NO_BIND
can be set to not build bind.  There are no hooks (yet) to not build
ipfilter, though patches are accepted :)

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> Hi, in 4.1-stable today with a build from the 29th I
> noticed that invoking less as more doesnt emulate the function of the b
> key as more would have.  It just beeps whereas more would go back a
> page.  I realize I could use pageup for this but it just suprised me and
> wanted to bring it up incase someone felt it was worth
> correcting.  Thanks.  

It works just fine for me.

Blaz Zupan,  Medinet d.o.o, Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia
E-mail: blaz@amis.net, Tel: +386-2-320-6320, Fax: +386-2-320-6325



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[This mail was resent due to delivery problems. If you have received it twice, please ignore.]

I have been having some trouble with telnet on a specific machine
since a make-world a week ago. I've traced the problem to something
specifically to do with the "secure" version of telnet, which is the
one that ends up getting installed.

If I go up into the object tree to check the "regular" telnet out,

  [101:~] cd /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet
  [102:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet] ./telnet nsmail
  Trying 1.2.3.4...
  Connected to nsmail.myorg.org
  Escape character is '^]'.

  login: 

But if I go to secure telnet,

  [103:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet] cd ../../secure/usr.bin/telnet
  [104:/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr.bin/telnet] ./telnet nsmail
  nsmail: No address associated with hostname

It seems like the host lookup is broken. Note that those commands
really were run back-to-back. The fact that one works and that all
other commands do not seem to have trouble with host lookups makes me
think the problem is with the secure telnet.

Any ideas what to do? I did rebuild the secure telnet, no joy. Didn't
do a complete make-world, not without some hope it might help.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.com



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On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Nimrod Mesika wrote:

>On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:51:03PM -0400, Adam wrote:
>> Can you post your config file?  I tried to mimic the parts from
>> dmesg you pasted with kernel options in my kernel from approx 2am
>> 29th EST but I dont get the error or the part about Dynamic rules.  
>
>Well, I can send you the whole file but what seems relevant
>is the following:
>
>options         IPFIREWALL
>options         IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
>options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
>options         IPFIREWALL_FORWARD
>options         IPDIVERT
>options         TCPDEBUG
>options         SOFTUPDATES
>options         DUMMYNET
>
>
>DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT was added after the error was discovered (can't
>connect to the net as the default was deny all).
>
>I also tried compiling without IPFIREWALL_FORWARD (this was my
>latest addition just after I cvsup'ed). Same results.

No idea, it works for me.  I still dont know how you are getting the
## Dynamic rules:
00000 0 0 (T 0, # 0) ty 0 ip, 0.0.0.0 0 <-> 0.0.0.0 0
 
part either.  Perhaps try cvsupping and building the kernel and the ipfw
bin by hand?  When I cvsupped just now, most of the changes were in
src/sys so it probably wouldnt need a full buildworld if you wanted to
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Blaz Zupan wrote:

>> Hi, in 4.1-stable today with a build from the 29th I
>> noticed that invoking less as more doesnt emulate the function of the b
>> key as more would have.  It just beeps whereas more would go back a
>> page.  I realize I could use pageup for this but it just suprised me and
>> wanted to bring it up incase someone felt it was worth
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>
>It works just fine for me.

Bleh. Me too now. I have no explanation. 
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On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:16:44AM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> Arcady Genkin <antipode@thpoon.com> writes:
> 
> > I upgraded 4.0 -> 4.1 today via make world.
> > 
> > I just noticed a message that ipfw core dumped:
> > 
> > Jul 30 02:06:42 soup /kernel: pid 21706 (ipfw), uid 0: exited on \
> >         signal 11 (core dumped)
> > 
> > Do I remember correctly that signal 11 is usually hardware-related?
> > FWIW, I couldn't find the core file.  Where would it get written?
> 
> Sorry to follow up to myself, but I just received email from cron with
> security check output, and have a coredump in there too:
> 
> ,----
> | checking for passwordless accounts:
> | Segmentation fault - core dumped
> `----
> 
> What's going on?

Kernel and userland out of sync?
-- 
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I have been having some trouble with telnet on a specific machine
since a make-world a week ago. I've traced the problem to something
specifically to do with the "secure" version of telnet, which is the
one that ends up getting installed.

If I go up into the object tree to check the "regular" telnet out,

  [101:~] cd /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet
  [102:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet] ./telnet nsmail
  Trying 1.2.3.4...
  Connected to nsmail.myorg.org
  Escape character is '^]'.

  login: 

But if I go to secure telnet,

  [103:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/telnet] cd ../../secure/usr.bin/telnet
  [104:/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr.bin/telnet] ./telnet nsmail
  nsmail: No address associated with hostname

It seems like the host lookup is broken. Note that those commands
really were run back-to-back. The fact that one works and that all
other commands do not seem to have trouble with host lookups makes me
think the problem is with the secure telnet.

Any ideas what to do? I did rebuild the secure telnet, no joy. Didn't
do a complete make-world, not without some hope it might help.
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Mike wrote:

> Jul 29 17:26:09 gateway sshd[1239]: ** RSAPrivateDecrypt: Unable to find an 
> RSAREF shared library (librsaref.so). Install the 
> /usr/ports/security/rsaref port or package and run this program again. See 
> the OpenSSL chapter in the FreeBSD Handbook, located at 
> http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/openssl.html, for more information.
> Jul 29 17:26:09 gateway sshd[1239]: fatal: rsa_private_decrypt() failed


From the above URL:

8.8.4. Binary Installations

If your FreeBSD installation was a binary installation (e.g., installed
from the Walnut Creek CDROM, or from a snapshot downloaded from
ftp.FreeBSD.org) and you selected to install the crypto collection, then
the sysinstall utility will automatically select the correct version to
install during the installation process. If the international version was
selected but could not be installed during sysinstall (e.g. you have not
configured network access, and the version must be downloaded from a FTP
site) then you can add the international RSA library after installation as
a package.

The librsaintl package contains the RSA code for International (non-USA)
users. This is not legal for use in the USA, but international users
should use this version because the RSA implementation is faster and more
flexible. It is available from ftp.internat.FreeBSD.org and does not
require RSAREF.


---

In fact I think Jordan never wrote the code to select the international
crypto distribution, but the second paragraph is correct.

Kris

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On 30 Jul 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:

> I upgraded 4.0 -> 4.1 today via make world.
> 
> I just noticed a message that ipfw core dumped:

This sometimes happens if your ipfw(8) binary is out of sync with the
kernel it's running on. You did rebuild the kernel with the same sources
(not e.g. after doing a cvsup in the middle), of course?

Kris

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On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Crist J. Clark wrote:

> Any ideas what to do? I did rebuild the secure telnet, no joy. Didn't
> do a complete make-world, not without some hope it might help.

Are you sure you updatecd your secure and crypto sources? This was a bug
in the old version of telnet which was brought to light by the KAME
upgrade prior to 4.1-R, and which is now believed fixed.

Kris

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On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Jun Kuriyama wrote:

> At Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:12:39 -0700,
> Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com> wrote:
> > > Is it worth doing a (non-CD) 4.1.5 release the day after the patent expires?
> > 
> > Why?  It's not as if the RSA code is bundled with the system, and to
> > get it into such a state would probably take more than a day. :-)
> 
> Does this mean snapshot on releng4.FreeBSD.org will have int'l version
> of RSA code (compiled librsa) after September?

Yes.

Kris

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On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:16:44AM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> Arcady Genkin <antipode@thpoon.com> writes:
> 
> > I upgraded 4.0 -> 4.1 today via make world.
> > 
> > I just noticed a message that ipfw core dumped:
> > 
> > Jul 30 02:06:42 soup /kernel: pid 21706 (ipfw), uid 0: exited on \
> >         signal 11 (core dumped)
> > 
> > Do I remember correctly that signal 11 is usually hardware-related?
> > FWIW, I couldn't find the core file.  Where would it get written?
> 
> Sorry to follow up to myself, but I just received email from cron with
> security check output, and have a coredump in there too:
> 
> ,----
> | checking for passwordless accounts:
> | Segmentation fault - core dumped
> `----
> 
> What's going on?

Kernel and userland out of sync?
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> In fact I think Jordan never wrote the code to select the international
> crypto distribution, but the second paragraph is correct.

Well, I did write it, it just didn't work. :-) Once I figured out that
there was no easy way around the "interactive package problem" (which
rsaref is), I nuked the code from sysinstall and left it as an add-on.

- Jordan


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On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 stephen@math.missouri.edu wrote:

> In /etc/defaults/make.conf it says
> 
> #NO_OPENSSH=    true    # do not build OpenSSH
> #NO_OPENSSL=    true    # do not build OpenSSL (implies NO_OPENSSH)
> 
> So I put in /etc/make.conf
> NO_OPENSSL
> and got a compile error.  Adding
> NO_OPENSSH
> cleared up the problem.

Fixed - thanks!

Kris

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Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org> writes:

> > I upgraded 4.0 -> 4.1 today via make world.
> > 
> > I just noticed a message that ipfw core dumped:
> 
> This sometimes happens if your ipfw(8) binary is out of sync with the
> kernel it's running on. You did rebuild the kernel with the same sources
> (not e.g. after doing a cvsup in the middle), of course?

Yeah, I did everything as the doctor prescribed (make buildworld, make
buildkernel, installkernel, installworld). ;^)

However, I just recompiled everything in /sbin just in case, and
recompiled my kernel.  Before I isolated the command from
/etc/security which caused the core dump; all works fine now.

Thank you for your replies!
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> > In fact I think Jordan never wrote the code to select the international
> > crypto distribution, but the second paragraph is correct.
> 
> Well, I did write it, it just didn't work. :-) Once I figured out that
> there was no easy way around the "interactive package problem" (which
> rsaref is), I nuked the code from sysinstall and left it as an add-on.

I'm talking about the code which would repoint the installer at an
international site if doing a net-install and choosing crypto, and
USA_RESIDENT selected as NO.

Kris

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> I'm talking about the code which would repoint the installer at an
> international site if doing a net-install and choosing crypto, and
> USA_RESIDENT selected as NO.

Ah, no.  I believe that was your project. :-)

- Jordan


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On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> > I'm talking about the code which would repoint the installer at an
> > international site if doing a net-install and choosing crypto, and
> > USA_RESIDENT selected as NO.
> 
> Ah, no.  I believe that was your project. :-)

Hey, I documented the feature..you mean that's not enough? :-)

Kris

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William Wong wrote:
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> Hi there,
> 
> Does anyone know if there are plans to support PPPoE outta the box? (without
> recompiling the kernel)  I'm not sure how many people are affected by this,
> but not being able to do a PPPoE install from the boot disks is a bugger.
> 

Here's a HOWTO for PPPoe

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FreeBSD PPPoE HOWTO

FreeBSD Requirements for PPPoE

Be sure that you have a version of userppp that supports PPPoE. Please note
that userppp is included in FreeBSD. It is not add-on software. Recent
FreeBSD releases should be fine.

Any -CURRENT, -STABLE and -RELEASE versions of FreeBSD should be able to
support PPPoE. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT and 3.3-STABLE releases have been tested
and found to work.

Configuring FreeBSD Kernel for PPPoE

In order to support PPPoE, three lines must be added at the end of the
FreeBSD kernel file. Beginners with no idea how to compile a kernel, please
read the following carefully. For more experienced users who know how to
compile a kernel, just see step 3 below and add the three lines to your
kernel.

  1. First you must change to the kernel configuration directory:

     cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf

  2. In the kernel configuration directory, use your favorite text editor
     and edit the kernel file. For example, if you use emacs, you would
     type:

     vi KERNEL

  3. Go to the end of the kernel file and add the following three lines:

     options NETGRAPH
     options NETGRAPH_PPPOE
     options NETGRAPH_SOCKET

  4. After adding these three lines, save the modified kernel file.

  5. Type this command to set the kernel configuration:

     config KERNEL

  6. Now you must change to the kernel setup directory:

     cd ../../compile/KERNEL

  7. In the kernel setup directory, type the following three commands:

     make depend
     make
     make install

Your kernel is now ready for PPPoE!

Configuring FreeBSD /etc/ppp/ppp.conf File

To edit the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file, just use your favorite text editor.
Replace any existing file content with the lines below. Be sure the "set
device PPPoE:---" line is correct for your network interface card. (We used
ed1 for the NIC in this example.) Change the authname and authkey to your
sympatico user id (b1xxxxxx) and your password.

     # /etc/ppp/ppp.conf

     default:
     set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command
     nat enable yes
     nat same_ports yes
     nat use_sockets yes
     set redial 15 28800
     set reconnect 15 28800

     pppoe:
     set device PPPoE:ed1:
     set mru 1492
     set mtu 1492
     set speed sync
     enable lqr
     set lqrperiod 5
     set cd 5
     set dial
     set login
     set timeout 0
     set authname b1xxxxxx@sympatico.ca
     set authkey yourpassword
     set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0
     add default HISADDR
     enable dns

     # end of ppp configuration

Configuring FreeBSD /etc/rc.conf  File

The /etc/rc.conf file should be set up as follows for the ethernet interface
that goes to your DSL modem. (Again, this example uses ed1 for the NIC.)

     # /etc/rc.conf

     network_interfaces="auto"   #Set network interfaces automatically
     ifconfig_ed1="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 -arp up"
     ppp_enable="YES"             #This enables PPP on startup
     (recommended)
     ppp_mode="background"
     ppp_profile="pppoe"

     #end of  /etc/rc.conf

Rebooting the System

After you have compiled the kernel to support PPPoE and have edited the
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf and /etc/rc.conf files with the right configuration, you
can reboot your system. If you enabled ppp in the /etc/rc.conf as
recommended, you should be connected and can now enjoy surfing the net on
FreeBSD using PPPoE.

Starting PPP Manually

If you did not enable ppp to automatically connect on startup in the
/etc/rc.conf file, you can use this command to connect to the Internet
manually:

     ppp -background pppoe



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On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:07:46PM +0200, Info wrote:
> I have a FreeBSD Stable 3.4 system running with Bind 8.2.2 and Ipfilter
> 3.3.16. I want to Cvsup this system, but I don't want to compile the
> "contrib stuff". What do I have to do to contol what is being build? 

Have a look at /etc/defaults/make.conf and copy the lines you want like

NO_BIND=       true

to /etc/make.conf

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On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 06:29:46PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote:

> > This sometimes happens if your ipfw(8) binary is out of sync with the
> > kernel it's running on. You did rebuild the kernel with the same sources
> > (not e.g. after doing a cvsup in the middle), of course?
> 
> Yeah, I did everything as the doctor prescribed (make buildworld, make
> buildkernel, installkernel, installworld). ;^)
> 
> However, I just recompiled everything in /sbin just in case, and
> recompiled my kernel.  Before I isolated the command from
> /etc/security which caused the core dump; all works fine now.

That means that you really didn't have a ipfw(8) that was in sync
with your ipfw(4) in your kernel.

here's what I'm 99% sure happened:

make installworld KERNEL=FOO installs /FOO and not /kernel like
everyone who has ever used FreeBSD expects it to. you booted your
old /kernel, even though /FOO was right there ready to be used.

you probably just recompiled the kernel in place (like we traditionally
used to) and then did a make install which (as POLA would tell us)
installs /kernel.

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On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 11:21:58AM -0700, R Joseph Wright wrote:
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> > Colours are always a personal preference.  No answer is right for everyone.
> > Read the manual page for ls and define your own colours in your environment.
> > 
> Absolutely.  That's why I said (hopefully in good humor) the *default* colors
> are horrid.  However, you can change the defaults all you want, but you still 
> will not get bright color like you get with gnuls.

Read the ls man page - it shows how to redefine the colours used for
different things.  I'm sure that you can conjour a config that makes
it behave like gnuls.

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Ted,

I believe that William was requesting a method to do a net install of
FreeBSD with PPPoE.

So, having been stuck at one point in this same situation (i live in
Toronto, Canada, and the xDSL provided by Bell Sympatico uses PPPoE) i
re-post the question:

Is there any possibility of PPPoE being an **installation** option. If PPPoE
is your only connection option to install FreeBSD, a post-install How-To
won't really help much. :-(

If it's a matter of demand, there's several thousand DSL subscribers in
Canada who are stuck with PPPoE... i'm sure several would love to avoid
having to buy the FreeBSD CD. I'd be willing to ask them all to submit their
email addresses for a group request if it would grease the wheels. Heck, i'm
sure some of them would even volunteer to help out! I know i would lend
whatever resources i could. :-)

Regards,
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William Wong wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> Does anyone know if there are plans to support PPPoE outta the box?
(without
> recompiling the kernel)  I'm not sure how many people are affected by
this,
> but not being able to do a PPPoE install from the boot disks is a bugger.
>

Here's a HOWTO for PPPoe

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Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote:
> 
> Ted,
> 
> I believe that William was requesting a method to do a net install of
> FreeBSD with PPPoE.
> 
> So, having been stuck at one point in this same situation (i live in
> Toronto, Canada, and the xDSL provided by Bell Sympatico uses PPPoE) i
> re-post the question:
> 
> Is there any possibility of PPPoE being an **installation** option. If PPPoE
> is your only connection option to install FreeBSD, a post-install How-To
> won't really help much. :-(
> 
> If it's a matter of demand, there's several thousand DSL subscribers in
> Canada who are stuck with PPPoE...

Just FYI, Bell Atlantic (I guess they're now called Verizon) is deploying
the same junk.  I mean, PPPoE is *so* wasteful, with THIRTY extra bytes
of overhead per frame (10 bytes of LLC/SNAP header, 14 bytes of Ethernet
header, plus 6 bytes of PPPoE header), compared to direct PPP over ATM.
So our northern friends are not alone in this situation...

Gary


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>>>>> In <87aef2hoxn.fsf@nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp> 
>>>>>	nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp (NAKAJI Hiroyuki) wrote:

Sean> Are you building with -DNOCLEANDIR?

nakaji> Ah, yes. I deleted -DNOCLEANDIR from my buildworld script and am
nakaji> rebuilding world.

Thanks to Matsushita-san.

My repository copy was broken, I don't know why, so that my cvsupped
/usr/src tree is also corrupted.

I recvsupped repository from cvsup4.jp.freebsd.org and recvsupped
/usr/src from localhost (it takes about 2 days).

Now I cannot see the error I had seen.
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> Just FYI, Bell Atlantic (I guess they're now called Verizon) is deploying
> the same junk.  I mean, PPPoE is *so* wasteful, with THIRTY extra bytes
> of overhead per frame (10 bytes of LLC/SNAP header, 14 bytes of Ethernet
> header, plus 6 bytes of PPPoE header), compared to direct PPP over ATM.
> So our northern friends are not alone in this situation...

	My own experience with PPPoE and HellAtlantic Infospeed is
absolutely horrid. It is no coincidence that BA is ranked at the
absolute bottom in the national ratings on www.dslreports.com. Stay
away if at all possible -- you truly don't get what you don't pay for...
We are switching away from BA as fast as we can.


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I was upgrading 4.-RELEASE to a CVSup'd 4.1 that I sucked down
on Friday last week, and I fillowed the
instructions in the UPDATE file, but I think I made a mistake
rebuilding the devices, as when I reboot I'm getting the
error 

can't fsck /dev/ad0s2a

From the shell, I can cd into /dev and see that all the ads0's are
there except ad0s2a.  My /etc/fstab has that as /, so it's kinda
odd that I can boot it at all? When I try and MAKEDEV /dev/ad0s2a
it complains that it's a read-only filesystem.

Can anyone make a suggestion for how I can get it back up?

thanks

Carl



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* carl@bl.echidna.id.au <carl@bl.echidna.id.au> [000730 18:18] wrote:
> 
> 
> I was upgrading 4.-RELEASE to a CVSup'd 4.1 that I sucked down
> on Friday last week, and I fillowed the
> instructions in the UPDATE file, but I think I made a mistake
> rebuilding the devices, as when I reboot I'm getting the
> error 
> 
> can't fsck /dev/ad0s2a
> 
> >From the shell, I can cd into /dev and see that all the ads0's are
> there except ad0s2a.  My /etc/fstab has that as /, so it's kinda
> odd that I can boot it at all? When I try and MAKEDEV /dev/ad0s2a
> it complains that it's a read-only filesystem.
> 
> Can anyone make a suggestion for how I can get it back up?

Mount an mfs and create the device node there. :)

-Alfred


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Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote:
> 
> Ted,
> 
> I believe that William was requesting a method to do a net install of
> FreeBSD with PPPoE.
Yeah I know. I emailed him earlier. I posted the FAQ in case anyone was
having trouble with PPPoe. It would be nice to have the option on the
install floppies. All the DSL users are left in the cold. It's starting
to become as popular as Cable. At least in my area.

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> >From the shell, I can cd into /dev and see that all the ads0's are
> there except ad0s2a.  My /etc/fstab has that as /, so it's kinda
> odd that I can boot it at all? When I try and MAKEDEV /dev/ad0s2a
> it complains that it's a read-only filesystem.
> 
> Can anyone make a suggestion for how I can get it back up?

mount -f /




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Dan Ts'o wrote:
> 
> > Just FYI, Bell Atlantic (I guess they're now called Verizon) is deploying
> > the same junk.  I mean, PPPoE is *so* wasteful, with THIRTY extra bytes
> > of overhead per frame (10 bytes of LLC/SNAP header, 14 bytes of Ethernet
> > header, plus 6 bytes of PPPoE header), compared to direct PPP over ATM.
> > So our northern friends are not alone in this situation...
> 
>         My own experience with PPPoE and HellAtlantic Infospeed is
> absolutely horrid. It is no coincidence that BA is ranked at the
> absolute bottom in the national ratings on www.dslreports.com. Stay
> away if at all possible -- you truly don't get what you don't pay for...
> We are switching away from BA as fast as we can.
> 

They have SNET/SBC in my area. According to them it uses DHCP
not PPPoe.(Yet their faq says PPPoe?) I ordered it for the 14th
out of curiosity. See how it stands up to cable. Anyone have experience
with SNET DSL? I ordered it with NTPLEX.net as my ISP. You can chose
your own ISP.

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Ted Sikora wrote:
> 
> Dan Ts'o wrote:
> >
> > > Just FYI, Bell Atlantic (I guess they're now called Verizon) is deploying
> > > the same junk.  I mean, PPPoE is *so* wasteful, with THIRTY extra bytes
> > > of overhead per frame (10 bytes of LLC/SNAP header, 14 bytes of Ethernet
> > > header, plus 6 bytes of PPPoE header), compared to direct PPP over ATM.
> > > So our northern friends are not alone in this situation...
> >
> >         My own experience with PPPoE and HellAtlantic Infospeed is
> > absolutely horrid. It is no coincidence that BA is ranked at the
> > absolute bottom in the national ratings on www.dslreports.com. Stay
> > away if at all possible -- you truly don't get what you don't pay for...
> > We are switching away from BA as fast as we can.
> >
> 
> They have SNET/SBC in my area. According to them it uses DHCP
> not PPPoe.(Yet their faq says PPPoe?) I ordered it for the 14th
> out of curiosity. See how it stands up to cable. Anyone have experience
> with SNET DSL? I ordered it with NTPLEX.net as my ISP. You can chose
> your own ISP.
> 
I just checked dslreports.com not very encouraging. Not very many happy
people. I guess I'll find out for myself. Recently my cable service
reduced the bandwidth. Now upstreams average 16k and downstream 400k.
There has to be something better. Several users on my node (all
BSD/Linux users) have been enjoying our own little private network with
speeds up to 900k both ways.(600k average) Now it's terrible. They now
limited the internal network to 33k between users. Compared to before
it's like putting us on dialups.
 
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Hello, 
I have installed FreeBSD 4.0 two weeks ago (and CVSuped to 4.1) 
I have some questions about running FoxPro for SCO on FreeBSD.
I can run it on Linux (with some problems on glibc system, for example it 
does not work on console but works in xterm)
But I can't run it in FreeBSD (no /usr/lib/terminfo). After I had symlinked 
/usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/terminfo foxpro starts but exits with message
"Too many open files :-(
I don't REALLY need foxpro (but I think it will be very fine to port some 
legacy DOS apps to terminal/server environment :-) )

I'm new to FreeBSD, but I'm using Linux since 1995

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Jul 30 23: 1:26 2000
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I am just a little puzzled on the best method for upgrading FreeBSD.
For this question I would be most concerned with the latest methods such
as an upgrade from 4.0 to 4.1.

Would I be correct in saying that burning a CD and using sysinstall
would be the correct procedure?  I remember seeing a warning somewhere
that mentioned sysinstall must be upgraded first before using this
method.  I may have read it wrong but it sounded this way.  If this is
true I am unable to find the exact procedure for doing this.  I believe
it's upgraded when /usr/src is upgraded but I am not entirely sure.

Would it be necessary to first cvsup src and rebuild world or should I
just use sysinstall to do the upgrade and later upgrade /usr/src?

I successfully upgraded using the following steps although they may be
somewhat incorrect.

1. did a cvsup of src-all
2. did a make buildworld
3. did a make installworld
4. followed the procedures in the handbook for upgrading /etc and such
5. rebuilt the kernel and rebooted
6. used sysinstall to upgrade the rest of the system

If using sysinstall does not upgrade sources will compiling a new kernel
still grab the correct source during the compile?  

Does this look correct?  The handbook does not describe this method in
such detail. 


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Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S?

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> Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S?

I went from 3.5S to 4.1-RC3 no problems using the recipe in UPDATING.




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I've changed the default value of FallBackToRsh from 'yes' to 'no' in the
ssh_config file - the meaning is pretty obvious: the SSH client won't try
and connect via rsh if it can't connect via SSH. It's pretty silly default
behaviour since most people who are running SSH probably aren't running
rsh (or shouldn't be) and I don't expect it to bother anyone since you can
just turn it back on if you're one of the few who likes it.

Kris

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Mon Jul 31  1: 5:42 2000
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How come these exact procedures are not included in /usr/src/UPDATING
after upgrading to 4.1?  For example, the only mention of "mergemaster"
is when upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 stable.   I do not see any mention of
the exact procedures below in my newly created /usr/src/UPDATING file
after a cvsup to 4.1.


Thanks,
Corey


On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 11:32:24PM -0500, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote:
> At 08:49 PM 7/9/00 -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> >Subject basically says it all. "make buildkernel KERNEL=<whatever>" and
> >"make installkernel KERNEL=<whatever>" (or set KERNEL in /etc/make.conf or
> >the environment, where KERNEL is the name of the kernel to build (GENERIC,
> >etc)) are what you should always be using to build your kernels, unless
> >you know what you're doing.
> >
> >This will automagically use the correct build tools for the job, and will
> >solve problems like the one a lot of people are seeing since the binutils
> >upgrade.
> >
> >Summary of Officially Sanctioned Update Procedure:
> >
> >make buildworld
> >make buildkernel
> >make installkernel
> >shutdown (drop into single-user mode)
> >make installworld
> >mergemaster
> 
> cd /dev
> sh MAKEDEV
> 
> Or is this the reason for the NO_MAKEDEV in make.conf.
> 
> >reboot
> >
> >Depart from the above procedure at your own risk. Thankyou :-)
> 
> Oh goody!  ;)
> 
> 
> Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net
> Systems/Network Administrator
> FreeBSD - the power to serve
> 
> 
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>> > I'm talking about the code which would repoint the installer at an
>> > international site if doing a net-install and choosing crypto, and
>> > USA_RESIDENT selected as NO.
>> 
>> Ah, no.  I believe that was your project. :-)
>
>Hey, I documented the feature..you mean that's not enough? :-)

So basically if you install FreeBSD 4.1 RELEASE from the binary installation (like the one mirrored in Australia), and you want crypto you have to be a US resident. Otherwise you have to install the RsaIntl package afterwards?

Surely this can't be right...

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On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mike wrote:

> So basically if you install FreeBSD 4.1 RELEASE from the binary
> installation (like the one mirrored in Australia), and you want crypto
> you have to be a US resident. Otherwise you have to install the
> RsaIntl package afterwards?

No, you'll just get crypto with a half-neutered RSA implementation. If
your mirror site mirrored crypto from one of the non-US sites then all
would be good.

Kris

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hi guys,
i just installed fresh install 4.0 and tried upgrading to 4.1-stable
while i was doing make world i got this error:

===> games/ppt
"/usr/src/games/ppt/Makefile", line 1: Need an operator
"/usr/src/games/ppt/Makefile", line 4: Need an operator
"/usr/src/games/ppt/Makefile", line 5: Need an operator
"/usr/src/games/ppt/Makefile", line 6: Need an operator
"/usr/src/games/ppt/Makefile", line 7: Need an operator
make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src/games.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.

hope someone can help me :)

thanks,



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Installing the US crypto distribution also seems to give DES passwords
rather than MD5. Utilities like 'sha1' seem to be missing as well.

The only real option (at least for international users) seems to be to do a
'make world' with USA_RESIDENT=NO.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To: Mike <mike@perlguru.com>
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Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users


> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mike wrote:
>
> > So basically if you install FreeBSD 4.1 RELEASE from the binary
> > installation (like the one mirrored in Australia), and you want crypto
> > you have to be a US resident. Otherwise you have to install the
> > RsaIntl package afterwards?
>
> No, you'll just get crypto with a half-neutered RSA implementation. If
> your mirror site mirrored crypto from one of the non-US sites then all
> would be good.
>
> Kris
>
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"Corey G." wrote:
> 
> I am just a little puzzled on the best method for upgrading FreeBSD.
> For this question I would be most concerned with the latest methods such
> as an upgrade from 4.0 to 4.1.
> 
> Would I be correct in saying that burning a CD and using sysinstall
> would be the correct procedure?  I remember seeing a warning somewhere
> that mentioned sysinstall must be upgraded first before using this
> method.  I may have read it wrong but it sounded this way.  If this is
> true I am unable to find the exact procedure for doing this.  I believe
> it's upgraded when /usr/src is upgraded but I am not entirely sure.
> 
> Would it be necessary to first cvsup src and rebuild world or should I
> just use sysinstall to do the upgrade and later upgrade /usr/src?
> 
> I successfully upgraded using the following steps although they may be
> somewhat incorrect.
> 
> 1. did a cvsup of src-all
> 2. did a make buildworld
> 3. did a make installworld
> 4. followed the procedures in the handbook for upgrading /etc and such
> 5. rebuilt the kernel and rebooted
> 6. used sysinstall to upgrade the rest of the system
> 
> If using sysinstall does not upgrade sources will compiling a new kernel
> still grab the correct source during the compile?
> 
> Does this look correct?  The handbook does not describe this method in
> such detail?

Read /usr/src/UPDATING completely. A reciepe is given there. Some steps
are missing, thus:

- CVSup
- make buildworld
- make isntallworld
- make buildkernel GENERIC
=> single user
- make installkernel GENERIC
- chflags noschg kernel.GENERIC
- copy old /kernel.GENERIC to /kernel.GENERIC.old
- copy new GENERIC to /kernel.GENERIC
- chflags schg kernel.GENERIC
- mergemaster
=> reboot

Pay attention to which kernel is installed where!
HTH
-Christoph Sold


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From: Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To: Mark Ibell <marki@paradise.net.nz>
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Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mark Ibell wrote:

> Installing the US crypto distribution also seems to give DES passwords
> rather than MD5.

Yes. This is being worked on.

> Utilities like 'sha1' seem to be missing as well.

This doesn't exist :-)

> The only real option (at least for international users) seems to be to do a
> 'make world' with USA_RESIDENT=NO.

Or read what I already said (or what is documented) and install the
librsaintl port/package.

Kris

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"Corey G." wrote:
> 
> How come these exact procedures are not included in /usr/src/UPDATING
> after upgrading to 4.1?  For example, the only mention of "mergemaster"
> is when upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 stable.   I do not see any mention of
> the exact procedures below in my newly created /usr/src/UPDATING file
> after a cvsup to 4.1.

Read up in the archives. There was a heated discussion about two weeks
ago.
In short: someone warned, but the current users thought the warning in
UDATING to be enough. Since too many people have been bitten by this,
they erred.

Just my .02 Euro
-Christoph Sold


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----- Original Message -----
From: Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To: Mark Ibell <marki@paradise.net.nz>
Cc: <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users


> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mark Ibell wrote:
>
> > Installing the US crypto distribution also seems to give DES passwords
> > rather than MD5.
>
> Yes. This is being worked on.
>
> > Utilities like 'sha1' seem to be missing as well.
>
> This doesn't exist :-)

I must have seen it on OpenBSD then - sorry.

>
> > The only real option (at least for international users) seems to be to
do a
> > 'make world' with USA_RESIDENT=NO.
>
> Or read what I already said (or what is documented) and install the
> librsaintl port/package.

The only problem with that is that the package is apparently not available -
I've checked both ftp.freebsd.org & ftp.internat.freebsd.org. Also, the port
complains about OpenSSL or something not being installed, which it won't be
if you don't install CRYPTO as per the export warning. Is the librsaintl
port by any chance intended for use with distributions downloaded from
ftp.internat.freebsd.org?

Mark



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In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007310053570.70721-100000@freefall.freebsd.org>, Kri
s Kennaway wrote:
} I've changed the default value of FallBackToRsh from 'yes' to 'no' in the
} ssh_config file - the meaning is pretty obvious: the SSH client won't try
} and connect via rsh if it can't connect via SSH. It's pretty silly default
} behaviour since most people who are running SSH probably aren't running
} rsh (or shouldn't be) and I don't expect it to bother anyone since you can
} just turn it back on if you're one of the few who likes it.

I suppose the people who run it that way that you would consider to be 
"legitimate" would be folks in a mixed shop who have a mix of ssh-enabled 
and non-ssh-enabled machines (to avoid argument, perhaps the latter are
out of the control of the admin of the former).  Remember that ssh is 
meant to be a drop-in replacement for rsh, so in the circumstance described
above, this change may violate POLA.  Besides, if the target machine is 
not running rshd, what is the harm in falling back to it if rsh doesn't work?
This smells like a feel-good change that will actually inconvenience some
folks, which doesn't really buy anything.

-- 
   Jon Hamilton  
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In our last episode,  <20000731163500.A35564@xocah.dhs.org>,
the lovely and talented H S YOON

HSY> Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S?  -- no
HSY> signature

It cannot be done by following the instructions in UPDATING
exactly to the letter.  Evidently, those who succeed know
some special interpretation of the instructions which, so
far, none of them have been willing to share with the rest
of us.


-- 
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Lars Eighner wrote:
> 
> In our last episode,  <20000731163500.A35564@xocah.dhs.org>,
> the lovely and talented H S YOON
> 
> HSY> Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S?  -- no
> HSY> signature
> 
> It cannot be done by following the instructions in UPDATING
> exactly to the letter.  Evidently, those who succeed know
> some special interpretation of the instructions which, so
> far, none of them have been willing to share with the rest
> of us.

If this is the case, go to 4.0R. from there to 4.1-S. That's just a
suggestion I have not tried it.

Between 4.0 and 4.1 the tool chain has changed, thus watch out, and read
the Stable archives. (A lengthy thread "HEADS UP")

HTH
-Christoph Sold


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I've sent it before to current@freebsd.org, however, maybe it is
suitable to send to _stable_@freebsd.org... sorry if you have seen before.

I've also putted packages/security/librsaintl-1.1.tgz for everybody
who is already installed 4.1-RELEASE and wanna install librsaINTL via
packages.

Actually, you can also install librsaintl via *ports*; however,
checksum is broken for 4-stable (files/md5 is maybe for -current), so
you should simply ignore them.

But anyway, where is the *official* place for librsaintl-1.1 package?

-- -
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Subject: FYI: Full 4.1-RELEASE distribution with RSA_RESIDENT=NO
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:37:44 +0900
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I've sent before that current.jp.FreeBSD.org provides 4.0-RELEASE
distribution with international CVS repository (at that time).

Now we are in the post 4.1-RELEASE age. It should be changed.

***

If you are NOT an US resident, and try to use FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE
which was built with 'RSA_RESIDENT=NO' (librsaINTL are already
included in crypto distribution), try:

<URL:ftp://current.jp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.1-RELEASE/>

This release is build at current.jp.FreeBSD.org, not a mirror of the
one at ftp.internat.FreeBSD.org. If something goes wrong, please email to me.

P.S.: current.jp.FreeBSD.org serves daily FreeBSD snapshots with
RSA_RESIDENT=NO, which is *not* available at current.freebsd.org. If
you have also interested, check /pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386 directory.

-- -
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Today H . S . YOON wrote:

> Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S?

A buildworld of 4.1-RELEASE on a 3.5-RELEASE box worked for me.
I haven't installed it yet.

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What facility does ipfw log to when logging is enabled?  I can't seem
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Jon Hamilton wrote:
> 
> I suppose the people who run it that way that you would consider to be
> "legitimate" would be folks in a mixed shop who have a mix of ssh-enabled
> and non-ssh-enabled machines (to avoid argument, perhaps the latter are
> out of the control of the admin of the former).  Remember that ssh is
> meant to be a drop-in replacement for rsh, so in the circumstance described
> above, this change may violate POLA.  Besides, if the target machine is
> not running rshd, what is the harm in falling back to it if rsh doesn't work?
> This smells like a feel-good change that will actually inconvenience some
> folks, which doesn't really buy anything.

We do have rsh, it's still there. Ssh is _SECURE_ shell. It having a
default which is not secure is against POLA. At the very least, this
change makes it more difficult for people to intercept an ssh tunnel.

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H . S . YOON:
>Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S?

Yep. Smoothly and according to /usr/src/UPDATING - with one exception: I
had to manually copy the freshly-built libc.so.4 into /usr/lib before a
"make installworld" would work. There seems to be a minor dependency on
the new 4.1's libc in one program - don't remember exactly which.


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Hi,

It looks like it is using the security and info facilities. That is,
if I'm looking at the correct source code.

/usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw.c

Best Regards
Willem Brown

On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 10:04:43AM -0500, Shawn Barnhart wrote:
> What facility does ipfw log to when logging is enabled?  I can't seem
> find that info in the handbook or the ipfw manpages.  I'd like to log
> ipfw messages to a seperate file.
> 
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On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 06:40:06AM -0500, Jon Hamilton wrote:

> I suppose the people who run it that way that you would consider to be 
> "legitimate" would be folks in a mixed shop who have a mix of ssh-enabled 
> and non-ssh-enabled machines (to avoid argument, perhaps the latter are
> out of the control of the admin of the former).  Remember that ssh is 
> meant to be a drop-in replacement for rsh, so in the circumstance described
> above, this change may violate POLA.  Besides, if the target machine is 
> not running rshd, what is the harm in falling back to it if rsh doesn't work?
> This smells like a feel-good change that will actually inconvenience some
> folks, which doesn't really buy anything.

When I type ssh I expect that when everything is said and done that I have
a secure channel to the machine.

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		H . S . YOON:
		>Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S?

		Yep. Smoothly and according to /usr/src/UPDATING - with one
exception: I
		had to manually copy the freshly-built libc.so.4 into
/usr/lib before a
		"make installworld" would work. There seems to be a minor
dependency on
		the new 4.1's libc in one program - don't remember exactly
which.

I agree.  I just updated 2 machines last night.  A Pentium from 3.5-Stable
and a PIII from 3.4-Stable.  I had the make installworld problem on both,
but UPDATING expected the exact problem I had and suggested using ldconfig,
then redoing installworld.

The only other snag I hit (on both systems) was on the "make install" step
for /usr/src/sys/modules.  I hit a problem many others had on the -stable
mailing list.  I haven't seen an "official" answer on the list yet.  What I
did was just skipped this step until I was done with everything else.  Then
running 4.1-Stable in multiuser mode, I simply went into
/usr/src/sys/modules, did make, then make install.

MikeC

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		H . S . YOON:
		>Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S?

		Yep. Smoothly and according to /usr/src/UPDATING - with one
exception: I
		had to manually copy the freshly-built libc.so.4 into
/usr/lib before a
		"make installworld" would work. There seems to be a minor
dependency on
		the new 4.1's libc in one program - don't remember exactly
which.

		


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:I have an NFS server which I updated to RELENG_4 (as of Jul 13th) from
:4.0-current (as of Jul 13th 1999).  Since the upgrade, it has locked
:up 3 times; it had been up for 180+ days prior to the upgrade.
:
:The machine serves a large (64GB) volume stripped across 4 ATA drives
:with CCD mounted with soft updates.  When it locks up, it is getting
:beaten upon by a compute farm of 50+ Solaris boxes running NFS over
:TCP (via 100Mb ethernet).
:
:When it locks, most procs are waiting in biofre, and the nfsd's are
:wating on inode.  I've been unable to get a dump, the most I have
:is ps from ddb. (appended below).  Its somewhat interesting that 
:3 of the nfsds are waiting on the same inode
:
:Stopped at      siointr1+0xb1:  jmp     siointr1+0x1a0
:db> ps
:  pid   proc     addr    uid  ppid  pgrp  flag stat wmesg   wchan   cmd
:  494 d28fb2a0 d292a000    0   120   120 002004  3  biofre c02aa6d8 amd
:  493 d0ad9c20 d2869000    0   373   492 004006  3  biofre c02aa6d8 grep
:  473 d0ad7380 d28df000 1597   320   473 004006  3  biofre c02aa6d8 netdump_server
:  460 d28fbe00 d28fc000 1597   458   460 004086  3   ttyin c1729630 tcsh
:  458 d0ad76c0 d28c8000    0   205   205 000084  3  select c02be9ec sshd1
:  394 d28fb440 d290f000    1     1   394 000104  3  biofre c02aa6d8 portmap
:  373 d0ad6ea0 d28eb000    0   285   373 2004086  3  opause d28eb108 tcsh
:  320 d0ad7040 d28e4000 1597   317   320 2004086  3  opause d28e4108 tcsh
:  317 d0ad71e0 d28e9000    0   205   205 000084  3  select c02be9ec sshd1
:  285 d0ad7520 d28db000 1387   283   285 2004086  3  opause d28db108 tcsh
:  283 d0ad7860 d28c4000    0   205   205 000084  3  select c02be9ec sshd1
:  260 d0ad7a00 d28bf000 1387   259   260 004106  3  biofre c02aa6d8 systat
:  259 d0ad83c0 d2899000 1387   233   259 004186  3  select c02be9ec xterm
:  233 d0ada440 d284e000 1387   230   233 004006  3   inode c16f8000 tcsh
:  230 d0ad8220 d289d000    0   205   205 000004  3  biofre c02aa6d8 sshd1
:  223 d0ada5e0 d284b000    0     1   223 004006  3  biofre c02aa6d8 getty
:  218 d0ad7ba0 d28bd000    0     1   218 000084  3  sbwait d0668acc zhm
:  205 d0ad7d40 d28b1000    0     1   205 000084  3  select c02be9ec sshd1
:  147 d0ad8080 d28a1000    0     1   147 2000184  3   pause d28a1108 sendmail
:  144 d0ad7ee0 d28a4000    0     1   144 000084  3  nanslp c02aa580 cron
:  142 d0ad9a80 d286c000    0     1   142 000084  3  select c02be9ec inetd
:  120 d0ad8be0 d2889000    0     1   120 000084  3  select c02be9ec amd
:  115 d0ad8560 d2895000    0     1   110 000084  3  nfsidl c02c0d4c nfsiod
:  114 d0ad8700 d2892000    0     1   110 000084  3  nfsidl c02c0d48 nfsiod
:  113 d0ad88a0 d288f000    0     1   110 000084  3  nfsidl c02c0d44 nfsiod
:  112 d0ad8a40 d288c000    0     1   110 000084  3  nfsidl c02c0d40 nfsiod
:  108 d0ad8d80 d2886000    0     1   108 000084  3  select c02be9ec rpc.statd
:  105 d0ad8f20 d2882000    0   100   100 000004  3   inode c16c3400 nfsd
:  104 d0ad90c0 d287f000    0   100   100 000004  3   inode c16c3400 nfsd
:  103 d0ad9260 d287c000    0   100   100 000004  3   inode c16c3400 nfsd
:  102 d0ad9400 d2878000    0   100   100 000004  3  biofre c02aa6d8 nfsd
:  100 d0ad95a0 d2875000    0     1   100 000084  3  accept d06663f6 nfsd
:   98 d0ad9740 d2872000    0     1    98 000084  3  select c02be9ec mountd
:   92 d0ad98e0 d286f000    0     1    92 000084  3  select c02be9ec ypbind
:   87 d0ad9dc0 d2866000    0     1    87 000084  3  select c02be9ec ntpd
:   80 d0ad9f60 d285c000    0     1    80 000084  3  select c02be9ec syslogd
:   33 d0ada100 d2858000    0     1    33 2000084  3   pause d2858108 adjkerntz
:   25 d0ada2a0 d2855000    0     1    25 000084  3  mfsidl d0ad3d00 mount_mfs
:    5 d0ada780 d0ae7000    0     0     0 000204  3  biofre c02aa6d8 syncer
:    4 d0ada920 d0ae5000    0     0     0 100204  3  psleep c02aa6a8 bufdaemon
:    3 d0adaac0 d0ae3000    0     0     0 000204  3  psleep c02b5fa0 vmdaemon
:    2 d0adac60 d0ae1000    0     0     0 100204  3  psleep c029c8b8 pagedaemon
:    1 d0adae00 d0adf000    0     0     1 004284  3    wait d0adae00 init
:    0 c02bdd80 c0322000    0     0     0 000204  3   sched c02bdd80 swapper
:
:
:About 30 seconds before this lockup, I was looking at how much buf
:space is available:
:
:#sysctl -a | grep buf
:kern.ipc.maxsockbuf: 262144
:kern.ipc.sockbuf_waste_factor: 8
:kern.ipc.mbuf_wait: 32
:kern.ipc.nmbufs: 10240
:vfs.nfs.bufpackets: 0
:vfs.numdirtybuffers: 18
:vfs.hidirtybuffers: 796
:vfs.numfreebuffers: 3083
:vfs.lofreebuffers: 177
:vfs.hifreebuffers: 354
:vfs.runningbufspace: 32768
:vfs.maxbufspace: 50872320
:vfs.hibufspace: 50216960
:vfs.lobufspace: 50151424
:vfs.bufspace: 50151424
:vfs.maxmallocbufspace: 2510848
:vfs.bufmallocspace: 4096
:vfs.getnewbufcalls: 512584
:vfs.getnewbufrestarts: 0
:vfs.bufdefragcnt: 0
:vfs.buffreekvacnt: 0
:vfs.bufreusecnt: 3061
:vfs.reassignbufcalls: 426411
:vfs.reassignbufloops: 0
:vfs.reassignbufsortgood: 144583
:vfs.reassignbufsortbad: 4776
:vfs.reassignbufmethod: 1
:vfs.aio.max_buf_aio: 16
:vfs.aio.num_buf_aio: 0
:debug.bpf_bufsize: 4096
:debug.bpf_maxbufsize: 524288
:machdep.msgbuf: 
:machdep.msgbuf_clear: 0
:
:
:I have appended my config file & boot messages.
:
:Thanks for any help you can give,
:
:Drew
:
:------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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:FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 13 12:11:33 EDT 2000
:    gallatin@grits.cs.duke.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/NFSSERVER
:Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
:Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 451024727 Hz
:CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (451.02-MHz 686-class CPU)
:  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x652  Stepping = 2
:  Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
:real memory  = 402640896 (393204K bytes)
:avail memory = 388145152 (379048K bytes)
:Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc030f000.
:ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers
:Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
:npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
:npx0: INT 16 interface
:pcib0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
:pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
:pcib1: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
:pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
:isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 4.0 on pci0
:isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
:atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 on pci0
:ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
:pci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> at 4.2
:chip1: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> port 0xe800-0xe80f at device 4.3 on pci0
:atapci1: <Promise ATA33 controller> port 0xa800-0xa81f,0xb004-0xb007,0xb400-0xb407,0xb804-0xb807,0xd000-0xd007 irq 12 at device 9.0 on pci0
:ata2: at 0xd000 on atapci1
:ata3: at 0xb400 on atapci1
:fxp0: <Intel Pro 10/100B/100+ Ethernet> port 0xa400-0xa41f mem 0xe2000000-0xe20fffff,0xe3000000-0xe3000fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0
:fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:e7:95:bb
:atapci2: <Promise ATA33 controller> port 0x8800-0x881f,0x9004-0x9007,0x9400-0x9407,0x9804-0x9807,0xa000-0xa007 irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0
:ata4: at 0xa000 on atapci2
:ata5: at 0x9400 on atapci2
:fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
:fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
:fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
:atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
:sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
:sio0: type 16550A, console
:sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
:sio1: type 16550A
:ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
:ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
:ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold
:ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
:lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
:lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
:plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
:ad0: 4892MB <QUANTUM FIREBALL EX5.1A> [10602/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
:ad1: 16479MB <Maxtor 91728D8> [33483/16/63] at ata2-master using UDMA33
:ad2: 16479MB <Maxtor 91728D8> [33483/16/63] at ata3-master using UDMA33
:ad3: 16479MB <Maxtor 91728D8> [33483/16/63] at ata4-master using UDMA33
:ad4: 16479MB <Maxtor 91728D8> [33483/16/63] at ata5-master using UDMA33
:Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
:WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
:
:
:## NFSSERVER
:machine		i386
:cpu		I686_CPU
:ident		NFSSERVER
:maxusers	128
:
:#makeoptions	DEBUG=-g		#Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
:
:options 	INET			#InterNETworking
:options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
:options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
:options 	SOFTUPDATES		#Enable FFS soft updates support
:options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
:options 	NFS			#Network Filesystem
:options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
:options 	CD9660			#ISO 9660 Filesystem
:options 	CD9660_ROOT		#CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
:options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
:options 	COMPAT_43		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
:options 	SCSI_DELAY=1500	#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
:options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
:options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
:options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
:options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) support
:options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
:options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
:options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores
:options 	P1003_1B		#Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
:options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
:options		ICMP_BANDLIM		#Rate limit bad replies
:options 	KBD_INSTALL_CDEV	# install a CDEV entry in /dev
:
:# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
:#options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
:#options 	APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O
:# Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown):
:#options 	NCPU=2			# number of CPUs
:#options 	NBUS=4			# number of busses
:#options 	NAPIC=1			# number of IO APICs
:#options 	NINTR=24		# number of INTs
:
:device		isa
:device		pci
:
:# Floppy drives
:device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
:device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
:
:# ATA and ATAPI devices
:device		ata0	at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
:device		ata1	at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
:device		ata
:device		atadisk			# ATA disk drives
:device		atapicd			# ATAPI CDROM drives
:
:
:# SCSI Controllers
:#device		ahb		# EISA AHA1742 family
:device		ahc		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
:#device		amd		# AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
:#device		dpt		# DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
:#device		isp		# Qlogic family
:#device		ncr		# NCR/Symbios Logic
:device		sym		# NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
:options		SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
:				# Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when 
:				# both sym and ncr are configured
:
:#device		adv0	at isa?
:#device		adw
:#device		bt0	at isa?
:#device		aha0	at isa?
:#device		aic0	at isa?
:
:# SCSI peripherals
:device		scbus		# SCSI bus (required)
:device		da		# Direct Access (disks)
:device		sa		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
:device		cd		# CD
:device		pass		# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
:
:# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
:device		atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD
:device		atkbd0	at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
:device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12
:
:device		vga0	at isa?
:
:# splash screen/screen saver
:pseudo-device	splash
:
:# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
:device		sc0	at isa? flags 0x100
:
:# Floating point support - do not disable.
:device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
:
:# Serial (COM) ports
:device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
:device		sio1	at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
:
:# Parallel port
:device		ppc0	at isa? irq 7
:device		ppbus		# Parallel port bus (required)
:device		lpt		# Printer
:device		plip		# TCP/IP over parallel
:device		ppi		# Parallel port interface device
:device		vpo		# Requires scbus and da
:
:
:# PCI Ethernet NICs.
:device		de		# DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
:device		fxp		# Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
:
:# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
:pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
:pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
:pseudo-device	pty		# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
:
:# The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
:# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
:pseudo-device	bpf		#Berkeley packet filter
:
:pseudo-device	ccd	4	#Concatenated disk driver
:
:# Size of the kernel message buffer.  Should be N * pagesize.
:options 	MSGBUF_SIZE=40960
:
:#
:# Enable the kernel debugger.
:#
:options 	DDB
:
:#
:# Don't drop into DDB for a panic. Intended for unattended operation
:# where you may want to drop to DDB from the console, but still want
:# the machine to recover from a panic
:#
:options 	DDB_UNATTENDED
:
:# Options for serial drivers that support consoles (only for sio now):
:options 	BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER	#a BREAK on a comconsole goes to
:					#DDB, if available.


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On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 04:34:51PM -0400, Adam wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Nimrod Mesika wrote:
> 
> No idea, it works for me.  I still dont know how you are getting
> the ## Dynamic rules: 00000 0 0 (T 0, # 0) ty 0 ip, 0.0.0.0 0 <->
> 0.0.0.0 0
>  
> part either.  Perhaps try cvsupping and building the kernel and
> the ipfw bin by hand?  When I cvsupped just now, most of the
> changes were in src/sys so it probably wouldnt need a full
> buildworld if you wanted to update the rest manually.
> 

Re-cvsupp'ed and remade world and kernel. Everything seems to be
find now. Guess I was somehow out of sync.

Thanks for your effort.

-- 
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Yeah, you're right. /usr/src/UPDATING's instructions do not work on me.

I'd like to follow the next steps derived from '/usr/src/UPDATING'.
This is my scenario but it did not gave me a successful result.

( CVSuped to RELENG_4  and 'CFLAGS= -O -pipe', 'USA_RESIDENT=NO' in 
/etc/make.conf )

1. cd /usr/src

2. make buildworld

3. make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL ; make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL

4. cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make install 

5. cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod ; make install

6. cp /usr/src/etc/MAKEDEV /dev ; sh MAKEDEV all ; change wd -> ad

7. reboot ( to single user )

8. cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info ; make install

9. cd /usr/src ; make installworld
( ld-elf.so warning? ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc and repeat 
installworld )

10. mergemaster

11. reboot


Buildworld was successful with no error. But 'make installkernel' fail and 
'make install in /usr/src/sys/modules' fail, too.

Whe installkernel,

"
xocah# make installkernel KERNEL=XOCAH
cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XOCAH;  MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj  COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin  LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib  OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec  PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503 MACHINE=i386 KERNEL=XOCAH  make install
cd: can't cd to /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XOCAH
*** Error code 2

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
"


When install module,

"
xocah# make install
===> accf_data
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555   accf_data.ko /modules
install: accf_data.ko: No such file or directory
*** Error code 71

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
"
( Maybe ko means Korean, for i'm live in Korea. )

And I don't know what I should do.


Thus spake Lars Eighner (eighner@io.com) :::::

: In our last episode,  <20000731163500.A35564@xocah.dhs.org>,
: the lovely and talented H S YOON
: 
: HSY> Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S?  -- no
: HSY> signature
: 
: It cannot be done by following the instructions in UPDATING
: exactly to the letter.  Evidently, those who succeed know
: some special interpretation of the instructions which, so
: far, none of them have been willing to share with the rest
: of us.
: 
: 
: -- 
:   Lars Eighner           eighner@io.com           http://www.io.com/~eighner/
:                     Save the whales! Collect the whole set!
: 
: 
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    I'm total agreement, this is a great change.  ssh has no business
    falling back to (attempt) an unsecure connection.

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Is there any reason why ATAPI CD driver patch to read VCD &c from
http://people.freebsd.org/~luoqi/ is not in stable?

I've applied it to my 4.1RC2 system without problems (couple of
trivial mods were necessary).  Now I can play VCD's with MTV.  The
only problem is that the sound comes out with regular quiet clicks
(more frequent if I set sound quality in MTV higher).  Mpeg video
streams grabbed with vcdread.c (available from the same page) also
have these clicks.  OTOH, playing mp3's is ok, so I don't think this
is a problem with the sound card driver (SB Live).

Thanks.

SY, Uwe
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uwe@ptc.spbu.ru                         |       Zu Grunde kommen
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In message <20000731112753.C5021@jade.chc-chimes.com>, Bill Fumerola wrote:

} When I type ssh I expect that when everything is said and done that I have
} a secure channel to the machine.

       FallBackToRsh
              Specifies that if connecting via ssh fails due to a
              connection  refused error (there is no sshd listen-
              ing on the remote host), rsh  should  automatically
              be used instead (after a suitable warning about the
              session being unencrypted).

It does complain, but having said that:

That feature is not really intended for users who type ``ssh'', it's 
meant for users who REPLACED RSH WITH SSH and who still need to interoperate
with machines which don't have ssh running.  The more I think about it, the
more I feel that the change to the default is reasonable; enough time has
probably passed since ssh came on the scene that such cases are probably
in the minority by now.  I guess I never really objected, but was rather
pointing out who might be affected.  Sorry for the needless traffic.

-- 
   Jon Hamilton  
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"H . S . YOON" <tsoi@xocah.dhs.org> writes:

> Buildworld was successful with no error. But 'make installkernel' fail and 
> 'make install in /usr/src/sys/modules' fail, too.
> 
> Whe installkernel,
> 
> "
> xocah# make installkernel KERNEL=XOCAH
> cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XOCAH;  MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj  COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin  LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib  OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec  PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503 MACHINE=i386 KERNEL=XOCAH  make install
> cd: can't cd to /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XOCAH
> *** Error code 2

This looks remarkably like you forgot the "make buildkernel" step.
You mentioned that step in your cookbook at the front of your message,
but it's not described here; and since that's the part which should
create the missing directory, I think that's the part you forgot.

There were some bogosities in the cookbook (notably building the new
devices in the /usr/src tree, where they won't help at all), but
that's further along than you had gotten so far.

Good luck.


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Can anyone else repeat this ?

newmail% fetch http://www.microsoft.com/default.htm
Receiving default.htm (15957 bytes): 100%
15957 bytes transferred in 0.3 seconds (46.87 kBps)
newmail% fetch http://www.netscape.com/index.html
Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0%
44914 bytes transferred in 1.1 seconds (38.51 kBps)
fetch: index.html appears to be truncated: 44914/4294967295 bytes
newmail%

 From an older RC1 box, (4.1-RC FreeBSD 4.1-RC #0: Fri Jul 14) all is fine.

Works with microsoft and a few other locations, but gives this truncated 
error with other sites. So far, I have only seen it via http and not ftp. I 
started seeing for a few days.

This is a direct connection, no proxies.

	---Mike
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On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 09:38:10PM +0400, Valeriy E. Ushakov wrote:
> Is there any reason why ATAPI CD driver patch to read VCD &c from
> http://people.freebsd.org/~luoqi/ is not in stable?
It is cursed. I've asked EXACTLY that questions about the time of 3.0-RELEASE.

Alex.


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On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 23:13:49 +0400, Alex Povolotsky wrote:

> > Is there any reason why ATAPI CD driver patch to read VCD &c from
> > http://people.freebsd.org/~luoqi/ is not in stable?
> 
> It is cursed. I've asked EXACTLY that questions about the time of
> 3.0-RELEASE.

Luoqi suggested this patch on hackers@ on 28 Jan 1999 and Soren
Schmidt promised to to "take a close look at those :)".  Just wonder,
what level of magnification is he at by now.

;-)

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On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Chris BeHanna wrote:

>     I don't remember if it was this list on which I saw this
> discussion, or if it was hackers.  Anyway, I looked at xfree86.org
> today, and noticed that there is accelerated support for ATI Mach64
> and for NVIDIA TNT2 and GeForce256 boards, as well as many others.
> 
>     Is there some reason why this isn't "good enough," or do we
> really need actual drivers for these boards to get at their
> extra-nifty features (e.g., hardware backface culling, fog, bump maps,
> etc.)?

That acceleration usually refers to 2D acceleration -- rectangle drawing
and so forth.  

XFree86 4.X adds support for DRI, a direct-to-hardware interface for
accessing the 3D hardware on the card.

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There was a thread on this subject a couple of weeks ago but did not
address this issue.

On my Compaq 1200XL, shutdown -p seems to work, except immediately after
shutdown the HD spins back up.  The only way to get it turned off at this
point is to pull the battery.

Does anyone have a suggestion on where to start looking for a solution?

Thanks,

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On 31 Jul 2000, at 14:57, Mike Tancsa wrote:


> Can anyone else repeat this ?

Yup. This is on a build of sources from approx 10:00 GMT 23-07-2000.

[rich@kenny ~/scratch]uname -a
FreeBSD kenny.kill-9.org.uk 4.1-RC FreeBSD 4.1-RC #3: Sun Jul 23 
23:41:11 BST 20
00     root@kenny.kill-9.org.uk:/usr/src/sys/compile/KENNY  i386
[rich@kenny ~/scratch]fetch http://www.microsoft.com/index.htm
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[rich@kenny ~/scratch]

Rich

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hi guys,
i was doing upgrading a machine from 4.0-release to 4.0-stable
anyway, while i was doing make world ... the machine went offline. i'm not
sure why, it's either of the power, or maybe the owner rebooted the machine.
i just called the isp and they said on the prompt it says boot: i guess and
there's a msg that says no kernel and no nsf. can someone tell me how can i
get the machine back online?
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Rich Wood wrote:
...
: Yup. This is on a build of sources from approx 10:00 GMT 23-07-2000.

Same here. Since I needed fetch to work with a certain URL that was not
working I did a cvs co of RELENG_3's fetch, which fixed it. Though I would
like to see what exactly is causing this problem.

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On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mark Ibell wrote:

> The only problem with that is that the package is apparently not available -
> I've checked both ftp.freebsd.org & ftp.internat.freebsd.org. Also, the port
> complains about OpenSSL or something not being installed, which it won't be
> if you don't install CRYPTO as per the export warning. Is the librsaintl
> port by any chance intended for use with distributions downloaded from
> ftp.internat.freebsd.org?

You have to install it over the top of the crypto dist - i.e. install
crypto from sysinstall, which will give you everything else plus a
half-neutered RSA implementation suitable for non-commercial US use. Then
install the package which adds a real RSA implementation that can't be
used in the US, and which will be used in preference to the other.

I have no idea where the package lives, either..I never could find out
from the internat boys where they installed it :-)

Kris

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In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007311557050.587-100000@veager.siteplus.net>, Jim We
eks wrote:
} There was a thread on this subject a couple of weeks ago but did not
} address this issue.
} 
} On my Compaq 1200XL, shutdown -p seems to work, except immediately after
} shutdown the HD spins back up.  The only way to get it turned off at this
} point is to pull the battery.
} 
} Does anyone have a suggestion on where to start looking for a solution?

Works fine for me on my 1200xl; I have the following in my kernel config:
device          apm0    at nexus? flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management

and
[542] hamilton@laptop hamilton$ grep -i apm /etc/rc.conf
apm_enable="YES"

(note, I do not run apmd).  If that combination fails for you, feel free to
contact me off-list and we can compare BIOS settings etc.  I use shutdown -p
all the time, and it has always worked for me on this machine, ranging from
4.0-STABLE to various iterations of -current, so I think it ought to be 
workable for you too.  Right now, I'm running -stable from July 29 and it's
fine there.

If you have a working sound config for this machine, I'd love to trade for
that, too :)

BTW, even with this symptom, you shouldn't have to pull the battery.  Hold
down the power button for 3-4 seconds and the machine should power down, though
I realize that's not ideal by a long shot.

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On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 21:38:10 +0400, Valeriy E. Ushakov wrote:

> only problem is that the sound comes out with regular quiet clicks
> (more frequent if I set sound quality in MTV higher).  Mpeg video
> streams grabbed with vcdread.c (available from the same page) also
> have these clicks.

*blush*, I've got MTV controls messed and had sound accidentally set
to left-only.

SY, Uwe
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Mon Jul 31 17: 4:39 2000
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Jon Hamilton wrote:
 
> Works fine for me on my 1200xl; I have the following in my kernel config:
> device          apm0    at nexus? flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management
> 
> and
 /etc/rc.conf
> apm_enable="YES"
 
> If you have a working sound config for this machine, I'd love to trade for
> that, too :)
> 
> BTW, even with this symptom, you shouldn't have to pull the battery.  Hold
> down the power button for 3-4 seconds and the machine should power down, though
> I realize that's not ideal by a long shot.

Thanks to Jon and Harold,

I didn't know about holding the button down.  I will use this for now and
recompile the kernel later.

Since I use this machine mainly to ssh my servers and check mail
while out of town, I haven't even tried to get sound working.  I'll bet
Graham Wheeler has though.

Graham, are you out there?

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Hi Folks;
I am trying to make installworld and I get error:

cd /; rm -f /sys; ln -s /usr/src/sys sys
rm: /sys: Operation not permited

Error ...

I did:  chflags -R noschg /sys
and I still get the error also I am running at kern_securelevel=-1 
to do the make installworld.


Any help apprecited


Dan


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At 04:27 PM 7/31/2000 -0400, Matt Heckaman wrote:
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>On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Rich Wood wrote:
>...
>: Yup. This is on a build of sources from approx 10:00 GMT 23-07-2000.
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>Same here. Since I needed fetch to work with a certain URL that was not
>working I did a cvs co of RELENG_3's fetch, which fixed it. Though I would
>like to see what exactly is causing this problem.

I sent a PR.  I cc'd the maintainer of the code the previous thread on this 
topic as well.

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On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 11:23:32PM +0400, Valeriy E. Ushakov wrote:
> > > Is there any reason why ATAPI CD driver patch to read VCD &c from
> > > http://people.freebsd.org/~luoqi/ is not in stable?
> > It is cursed. I've asked EXACTLY that questions about the time of
> > 3.0-RELEASE.
> Luoqi suggested this patch on hackers@ on 28 Jan 1999 and Soren
> Schmidt promised to to "take a close look at those :)".  Just wonder,
> what level of magnification is he at by now.
He must be inside, enjoying some good film ;-)

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Hello freebsd-stable!

  Are there any limits for size/quantity of partitions at freebsd
slice?

Best regards,
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>   Are there any limits for size/quantity of partitions at freebsd
> slice?

4 slices per disk, 8 partitions per slice (by convention, partition "c" covers 
the whole disk so usually only 7 usable partitions).

AFAIK FreeBSD cannot use the so-called "extended partitions" (i.e. 
slices-within-slices).

If this is too restrictive for your purposes, use vinum to chop up a large 
partition into lots of little ones.




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Hello Gregory,
Tuesday, August 01, 2000, 11:25:28 AM, you wrote:

>>   Are there any limits for size/quantity of partitions at freebsd
>> slice?

GB> 4 slices per disk, 8 partitions per slice (by convention, partition "c" covers 
GB> the whole disk so usually only 7 usable partitions).

GB> AFAIK FreeBSD cannot use the so-called "extended partitions" (i.e. 
GB> slices-within-slices).

GB> If this is too restrictive for your purposes, use vinum to chop up a large 
GB> partition into lots of little ones.

I'm tried create new partition on slice with >5Gb free space and failed.
Partition with 4096Mb was created successfully. Now i have 5
partitions on this slice and can't create new for rest 1+ Gb :(
Slice (as i can remember) is more than 8Gb, HDD is IBM SCSI 18Gb.

Best regards,
 Sergey                           mailto:lw@pd.chel.ru
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Gregory Bond wrote:

> >     4) As time progresses, cvs up from my local mirror, build and
> >        install.  BUT, prior to doing that, tag my local copy
> >        (e.g., "WORKS_7-26-2000").  The idea here is that if someone
> >        does a hasty commit, and I suffer for it, I can easily get
> >        back to where I was.
>
> Except that (IIUC) next time you cvsup-d the repository, your local tag would
> be deleted.

    I suppose I could tag -b "WORKS" the first time, cvs update -r "WORKS" to
switch to my new branch, then tag the branch and merge out from my local
repository's "mainline" whenever I resync it.

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Ted Sikora wrote:

> Recently my cable service
> reduced the bandwidth. Now upstreams average 16k and downstream 400k.
> There has to be something better. Several users on my node (all
> BSD/Linux users) have been enjoying our own little private network with
> speeds up to 900k both ways.(600k average) Now it's terrible. They now
> limited the internal network to 33k between users. Compared to before
> it's like putting us on dialups.

    When you signed on, didn't you agree to pay  per month for a given
service level?  If I understand you correctly, @home has now changed the terms
of the agreement.

    We need competition for cable service in a big, big way.  :-(

    I don't have the option for DSL where I live (yet), and my cable "ISP" (I
have to put that in quotes, because they couldn't find their bungholes with
both hands and a roadmap) guarantees 1500K down and 500K up for what I'm
paying, BUT they block all the ports below 1024.  :-(

    I can hack around that, given a friendly site outside their firewall who's
willing to divert packets for me, but it's still a PITA.

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Doug Barton wrote:

>         Signals 10 and 11 are almost always hardware.

    Not in my experience.  Signal 11 is usually the result of attempting to
dereference a NULL pointer.  Signal 10 is usually the result of attempting to
dereference a pointer that contains a garbage address.

    At least, that's been my experience.  YMMV.

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----- Original Message -----
From: net admin <admin@pacex.net>
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Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 11:27 AM
Subject: make installworld fails to rm: /sys (not permited)


> Hi Folks;
> I am trying to make installworld and I get error:
>
> cd /; rm -f /sys; ln -s /usr/src/sys sys
> rm: /sys: Operation not permited
>
> Error ...
>
> I did:  chflags -R noschg /sys
> and I still get the error also I am running at kern_securelevel=-1
> to do the make installworld.

Symbolic links do not have 'flags' so there is no reason why rm -f  /sys (as
root) should fail.

Is /sys still is a symbolic link on your system?



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"Sergey A. Ivanov" wrote:

> Hello Gregory,
> Tuesday, August 01, 2000, 11:25:28 AM, you wrote:
>
> >>   Are there any limits for size/quantity of partitions at freebsd
> >> slice?
>
> GB> 4 slices per disk, 8 partitions per slice (by convention, partition "c" covers
> GB> the whole disk so usually only 7 usable partitions).
>
> GB> AFAIK FreeBSD cannot use the so-called "extended partitions" (i.e.
> GB> slices-within-slices).

    As I wrote to Gregory, the "AFAIK" part isn't true.  You
*can* create and use partitions in the "extended partition".  I have two of them
mounted right now.  :-)

> I'm tried create new partition on slice with >5Gb free space and failed.
> Partition with 4096Mb was created successfully. Now i have 5
> partitions on this slice and can't create new for rest 1+ Gb :(
> Slice (as i can remember) is more than 8Gb, HDD is IBM SCSI 18Gb.

    I don't know why this didn't work for you.  Right now, My

/usr is 17.7GB, and /export is 16.7GB.  There are 5GB free

on the disk in an unused FAT partition, just in case I need to

install "another" OS.

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Given this example IPs:

My Home PC: 193.68.31.27 /dynamic IP from ISP, dial-up/
My Server: 193.68.22.2

I can telnet /and pop3 server is ok, popper/

Now, with this:

My Home PC: 212.50.35.2 /dynamic IP from another ISP, dial-up/
My Server: 193.68.22.2 

I CAN NOT telnet /pop3 server connection refused  as well/

Why that ? /etc/hosts.allow 's first line is

ALL : ALL : allow

I have root privileges on my server! Actualy, this is my server plugged in the first ISP's LAN.

please give some help!
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>
>In that case it should log failure using the auth service...Try creating
>the file /var/log/auth.log and adding a line into /etc/syslog.conf:
>

Actualy, I don't have 'login failers'. I just can't connect! "Connection refused", not login failer! I do not get login prompt at all! I even do not get any message from telnet-client! Just 'connection refused'. Currently I use ssh to log-in. I did what you suggest in /etc/syslog.conf. ssh logins are logged now, etc. But nothing else! 


>
>On your server use the host command. Type "host <your IP>" where <your IP>
...

'host' is ok in both directions (host <name> and host <ip> gives the same name/IP). Can I assume resolving is ok ?


If i could force things to be logged somehow :-) I can send my /etc/syslog.conf if it will be of help ?
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In list.freebsd-stable Mark Ibell <marki@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
 > The only real option (at least for international users) seems to be to do a
 > 'make world' with USA_RESIDENT=NO.

Or install from one of the international servers that build
the releases themselves with USA_RESIDENT=NO, including:

   current.jp.freebsd.org
   ftp7.de.freebsd.org

On ftp7.de there's also a "barebone" ISO image of 4.1-R
that has been built the same way.  It contains just the
base system, sources and XFree86, but no optional packages,
so it is much smaller than the ISO on ftp.freebsd.org.
There's also a Live Filesystem / "Fixit" CD ISO image.

Regards
   Oliver

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Please provide revision numbers or checkout dates for working /
non-working versions.

If at all possible, rebuild libfetch with DEBUG defined (see
instructions below) and mail me the output of failed transfers.

# cd /usr/src/lib/libfetch && \
    make cleandir && \
    make obj && \
    make depend && \
    make -DDEBUG && \
    make install

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On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:

: Please provide revision numbers or checkout dates for working /
: non-working versions.

Revision of usr.bin/fetch/fetch.c = 1.10.2.6 2000/07/06
Revision of lib/libfetch/fetch.c  = 1.10.2.4 2000/07/21

: If at all possible, rebuild libfetch with DEBUG defined (see
: instructions below) and mail me the output of failed transfers.

Here's the output on my 4.1-STABLE machine:

> fetch http://quote.yahoo.com/d\?f=snl1d1t1c1p2va2bapomwerr1dyj1\&s=DJI
scheme:   [http]
user:     []
password: []
host:     [quote.yahoo.com]
port:     [0]
document: [/d?f=snl1d1t1c1p2va2bapomwerr1dyj1&s=DJI]
- ---> quote.yahoo.com:80
>>> GET /d?f=snl1d1t1c1p2va2bapomwerr1dyj1&s=DJI HTTP/1.1
>>> Host: quote.yahoo.com
>>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0
>>> Connection: close
>>> 
<<< HTTP/1.0 200 OK
<<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 11:23:22 GMT
<<< Cache-Control: private
<<< Connection: close
<<< Content-Type: application/octet-stream
<<< 
offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: -1
Receiving d?f=snl1d1t1c1p2va2bapomwerr1dyj1&s=DJI (4294967295 bytes): 0%
116 bytes transferred in 0.0 seconds (70.72 kBps)
fetch: d?f=snl1d1t1c1p2va2bapomwerr1dyj1&s=DJI appears to be
truncated: 116/4294967295 bytes
 
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I hope that helps :)

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I succeeded!

My step is like this..

1. CVSuped to RELENG_4  && 'CFLAGS= -O -pipe' 'USA_RESIDENT=NO' 
in /etc/make.conf ( i'm not an American )

2. cd /usr/src ; make buildworld

3. cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf ; cp GENERIC MYKERNEL && configure MYKERNEL ;
   cd /usr/src ; make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL ; 
   make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL

4. cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make install --> failed but i skipped this step

5. cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod ; make install ; make install

6. cp /usr/src/etc/MAKEDEV /dev ; sh MAKEDEV all ; ( MAKEDEV your own slice. see your own /etc/fstab ) ; change 'wd' to 'ad' in /etc/fstab 

7. reboot to single user ( boot -s ) ; 
   mount your partition with rw ( ex. /, /usr, /var, /home, etc. ) 

8. cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info ; make install

9. cd /usr/src ; make installworld
( if happen any ld-elf.so warning, do 'ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc' 
and 'make installworld' again. )

10. mergemaster

11. reboot( to nomal booting ) 


This is the steps are described in /usr/src/UPDAING. -_-;
Thanx for all who have given his hands to me. 

Best regards,
Tsoi.


Thus spake Cambria, Mike (mcambria@lucent.com) :::::

: I agree.  I just updated 2 machines last night.  A Pentium from 3.5-Stable
: and a PIII from 3.4-Stable.  I had the make installworld problem on both,
: but UPDATING expected the exact problem I had and suggested using ldconfig,
: then redoing installworld.
: 
: The only other snag I hit (on both systems) was on the "make install" step
: for /usr/src/sys/modules.  I hit a problem many others had on the -stable
: mailing list.  I haven't seen an "official" answer on the list yet.  What I
: did was just skipped this step until I was done with everything else.  Then
: running 4.1-Stable in multiuser mode, I simply went into
: /usr/src/sys/modules, did make, then make install.
: 
: MikeC
: 
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Matt Heckaman <matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET> writes:
> I hope that helps :)

Yes. The estimated size is wrong due to an incorrect typecast, so
fetch(1) complains that it doesn't match the actual size. The received
file is almost certainly complete and correct.

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On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
...
: Yes. The estimated size is wrong due to an incorrect typecast, so
: fetch(1) complains that it doesn't match the actual size. The received
: file is almost certainly complete and correct.

*nods* It still breaks wmstock though, it never sees itself as getting the
complete file and errors out, and keeps on trying making temporary files
that it never knows are correct :) Thank you for the quick diagnoses
though, it's appreciated.

: DES
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Subject: Re: is fetch broken?
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At 01:04 PM 8/1/00 +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
>Please provide revision numbers or checkout dates for working /
>non-working versions.

working
$FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/fetch/http.c,v 1.31 2000/03/08 13:02:10 cracauer Exp $
 From July 14th

non working
$FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/fetch/fetch.c,v 1.10.2.6 2000/07/26 07:56:16 des Exp $
July 28th


>If at all possible, rebuild libfetch with DEBUG defined (see
>instructions below) and mail me the output of failed transfers.

newmail# fetch http://www.netscape.com/index.html
scheme:   [http]
user:     []
password: []
host:     [www.netscape.com]
port:     [0]
document: [/index.html]
---> www.netscape.com:80
 >>> GET /index.html HTTP/1.1
 >>> Host: www.netscape.com
 >>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0
 >>> Connection: close
 >>>
<<< HTTP/1.1 200 OK
<<< Server: Netscape-Enterprise/4.1
<<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:28:19 GMT
<<< Set-Cookie: 
UIDC=207.245.238.163:0965136499:466110;domain=.netscape.com;path=/;expires=31-Dec-2010 
23:59:59 GMT
<<< Content-type: text/html
<<< Connection: close
<<<
offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: -1
Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0%
45088 bytes transferred in 0.8 seconds (53.11 kBps)
fetch: index.html appears to be truncated: 45088/4294967295 bytes

newmail# fetch http://www.sentex.net/index.html
scheme:   [http]
user:     []
password: []
host:     [www.sentex.net]
port:     [0]
document: [/index.html]
---> www.sentex.net:80
 >>> GET /index.html HTTP/1.1
 >>> Host: www.sentex.net
 >>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0
 >>> Connection: close
 >>>
<<< HTTP/1.1 200 OK
<<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:28:30 GMT
<<< Server: Apache/1.3.9 (Unix)
<<< Connection: close
<<< Transfer-Encoding: chunked
<<< Content-Type: text/html
<<<
offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: -1
Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0%<<< cff
_http_fillbuf(): new chunk: 3327 (3327)
<<< 0
_http_fillbuf(): end of last chunk
Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0%
3327 bytes transferred in 0.1 seconds (34.10 kBps)
fetch: index.html appears to be truncated: 3327/4294967295 bytes
newmail#

and one that works for some reason

newmail#  fetch http://www.microsoft.com/default.htm
scheme:   [http]
user:     []
password: []
host:     [www.microsoft.com]
port:     [0]
document: [/default.htm]
---> www.microsoft.com:80
 >>> GET /default.htm HTTP/1.1
 >>> Host: www.microsoft.com
 >>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0
 >>> Connection: close
 >>>
<<< HTTP/1.1 200 OK
<<< Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
<<< Connection: close
<<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:28:50 GMT
<<< Content-Type: text/html
<<< Accept-Ranges: bytes
<<< Last-Modified: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:09:33 GMT
last modified: [2000-07-31 18:09:33]
<<< ETag: "f4cbbb7a1afbbf1:87e"
<<< Content-Length: 15957
content length: [15957]
<<<
offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: 15957
Receiving default.htm (15957 bytes): 100%
15957 bytes transferred in 0.3 seconds (48.24 kBps)


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It appears to me that fetch doesn't handle answers well if there isn't a
content-length given by the server.

On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Mike Tancsa wrote:

> At 01:04 PM 8/1/00 +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> >Please provide revision numbers or checkout dates for working /
> >non-working versions.
> 
> working
> $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/fetch/http.c,v 1.31 2000/03/08 13:02:10 cracauer Exp $
>  From July 14th
> 
> non working
> $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/fetch/fetch.c,v 1.10.2.6 2000/07/26 07:56:16 des Exp $
> July 28th
> 
> 
> >If at all possible, rebuild libfetch with DEBUG defined (see
> >instructions below) and mail me the output of failed transfers.
> 
> newmail# fetch http://www.netscape.com/index.html
> scheme:   [http]
> user:     []
> password: []
> host:     [www.netscape.com]
> port:     [0]
> document: [/index.html]
> ---> www.netscape.com:80
>  >>> GET /index.html HTTP/1.1
>  >>> Host: www.netscape.com
>  >>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0
>  >>> Connection: close
>  >>>
> <<< HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> <<< Server: Netscape-Enterprise/4.1
> <<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:28:19 GMT
> <<< Set-Cookie: 
> UIDC=207.245.238.163:0965136499:466110;domain=.netscape.com;path=/;expires=31-Dec-2010 
> 23:59:59 GMT
> <<< Content-type: text/html
> <<< Connection: close
> <<<
> offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: -1
> Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0%
> 45088 bytes transferred in 0.8 seconds (53.11 kBps)
> fetch: index.html appears to be truncated: 45088/4294967295 bytes
> 
> newmail# fetch http://www.sentex.net/index.html
> scheme:   [http]
> user:     []
> password: []
> host:     [www.sentex.net]
> port:     [0]
> document: [/index.html]
> ---> www.sentex.net:80
>  >>> GET /index.html HTTP/1.1
>  >>> Host: www.sentex.net
>  >>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0
>  >>> Connection: close
>  >>>
> <<< HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> <<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:28:30 GMT
> <<< Server: Apache/1.3.9 (Unix)
> <<< Connection: close
> <<< Transfer-Encoding: chunked
> <<< Content-Type: text/html
> <<<
> offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: -1
> Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0%<<< cff
> _http_fillbuf(): new chunk: 3327 (3327)
> <<< 0
> _http_fillbuf(): end of last chunk
> Receiving index.html (4294967295 bytes): 0%
> 3327 bytes transferred in 0.1 seconds (34.10 kBps)
> fetch: index.html appears to be truncated: 3327/4294967295 bytes
> newmail#
> 
> and one that works for some reason
> 
> newmail#  fetch http://www.microsoft.com/default.htm
> scheme:   [http]
> user:     []
> password: []
> host:     [www.microsoft.com]
> port:     [0]
> document: [/default.htm]
> ---> www.microsoft.com:80
>  >>> GET /default.htm HTTP/1.1
>  >>> Host: www.microsoft.com
>  >>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0
>  >>> Connection: close
>  >>>
> <<< HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> <<< Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
> <<< Connection: close
> <<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:28:50 GMT
> <<< Content-Type: text/html
> <<< Accept-Ranges: bytes
> <<< Last-Modified: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:09:33 GMT
> last modified: [2000-07-31 18:09:33]
> <<< ETag: "f4cbbb7a1afbbf1:87e"
> <<< Content-Length: 15957
> content length: [15957]
> <<<
> offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: 15957
> Receiving default.htm (15957 bytes): 100%
> 15957 bytes transferred in 0.3 seconds (48.24 kBps)
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Mike Tancsa,                                      tel +1 519 651 3400
> Sentex Communications                             mike@sentex.net
> Cambridge, Ontario Canada                         www.sentex.net
> 
> 
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Hi all - I have been waiting for the base sendmail in
freebsd, now 8.9.3 to be updated to the latest one
which is 8.11.0. Anyone have any appox. dates for
this?
If its still a distant project, how would we recommend
upgrading sendmail? That is downloading the source and
compiling, but FreeBSD has mailwrapper and all those
utilities which I think I would break? Any help would
be appreciated.

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>Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:10:32 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Holtor <holtor@yahoo.com>
>Subject: sendmail 8.11.0
>To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG
>Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG

>Hi all - I have been waiting for the base sendmail in
>freebsd, now 8.9.3 to be updated to the latest one
>which is 8.11.0. Anyone have any appox. dates for
>this?
>If its still a distant project, how would we recommend
>upgrading sendmail? That is downloading the source and
>compiling, but FreeBSD has mailwrapper and all those
>utilities which I think I would break? Any help would
>be appreciated.

sendmail 8.11.0 builds & installs on FreeBSD just fine.

Sunday last, I upgraded the home laptop from 4.1-S that was about 4 days
old to -STABLE as of that day.  I had specified both "NO_MAILWRAPPER"
and "NO_SENDMAIL" as true.  It had been running a beta release of
sendmail 8.11; I installed 8.11.0.  Granted, as a laptop, it doesn't get
the same kind of use that a lot of other sendmail installations get, but
it works as expected.  (It doesn't even seem to totaly freak that it's
running on a DHCP client....)

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On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:10:32 -0700 (PDT)  Holtor wrote:
 +------------------
 | Hi all - I have been waiting for the base sendmail in
 | freebsd, now 8.9.3 to be updated to the latest one
 | which is 8.11.0. Anyone have any appox. dates for
 | this?
 | If its still a distant project, how would we recommend
 | upgrading sendmail? That is downloading the source and
 | compiling, but FreeBSD has mailwrapper and all those
 | utilities which I think I would break? Any help would
 | be appreciated.
 | 
 | Holt
 +------------------

I just download sendmail, compile it, install it, and start it up.
The existing /etc/rc.conf mechinism continues to work well.  I find
the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem.  It is similar
to the whole /usr/local/etc/rc.d scheme where we are adding a
layer of indirection when there is no need for one.

chris

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Hi again - I recently did a fresh install of freebsd
4.0 and upgraded it to the latest 4.1 right away. I
started
up the sshd thats built in (/usr/sbin/sshd) and it
worked
right from there. If memory serves me correctly I
would
normally have to install rsaref from ports wouldn't I?
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As a sendmail user, you might find it bizarre.  As a postfix user, I
don't.  Not everyone uses/likes sendmail.

- Mike H.

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   On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:10:32 -0700 (PDT)  Holtor wrote:
    +------------------
    | Hi all - I have been waiting for the base sendmail in
    | freebsd, now 8.9.3 to be updated to the latest one
    | which is 8.11.0. Anyone have any appox. dates for
    | this?
    | If its still a distant project, how would we recommend
    | upgrading sendmail? That is downloading the source and
    | compiling, but FreeBSD has mailwrapper and all those
    | utilities which I think I would break? Any help would
    | be appreciated.
    | 
    | Holt
    +------------------

   I just download sendmail, compile it, install it, and start it up.
   The existing /etc/rc.conf mechinism continues to work well.  I find
   the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem.  It is similar
   to the whole /usr/local/etc/rc.d scheme where we are adding a
   layer of indirection when there is no need for one.

   chris

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On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:38:56AM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote:
> I find
> the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem.  It is similar
> to the whole /usr/local/etc/rc.d scheme where we are adding a
> layer of indirection when there is no need for one.

On the contrary - I find it a complete godsend.  It makes replacing the
standard sendmail with a port/package and absolute breeze.  It's far
nicer than having each port hack around in /usr/sbin for no good reason.

-Dom


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Sorry, mistype.. just *one* 'make install' in my step 5.

"5. cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod ; make install"


Thus spake H . S . YOON (tsoi@xocah.dhs.org) :::::

: 5. cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod ; make install ; make install

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Hi,

Like you, I also initially skipped the following marked lines from /usr/src/UPDATING:

         make buildkernel KERNEL=<YOUR_KERNEL_HERE>
         make installkernel  KERNEL=<YOUR_KERNEL_HERE>
         # Verify that the new kernel works, it will be installed as
         # /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
         chflags noschg /kernel              <---
         chflags noschg /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE    <---
         mv /kernel /kernel.old              <---
         mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel        <---
         chflags schg /kernel                <---

"make installkernel" simply copies the built kernel into /MYKERNEL, and so those marked lines above are needed to (a) zap the old kernel away (actually, just renamed as /kernel.old) and then (b) copy the new kernel in.

If you didn't do those steps, you'll simply be running the OLD kernel which in most cases will be the GENERIC or worse yet, your old 3.x kernel.


Hope this helps,

   -T.W.Chan-

At 09:04 PM 8/1/00 +0900, H . S . YOON wrote:
>I succeeded!
>
>My step is like this..
>
>1. CVSuped to RELENG_4  && 'CFLAGS= -O -pipe' 'USA_RESIDENT=NO' 
>in /etc/make.conf ( i'm not an American )
>
>2. cd /usr/src ; make buildworld
>
>3. cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf ; cp GENERIC MYKERNEL && configure MYKERNEL ;
>    cd /usr/src ; make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL ; 
>    make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
>
>4. cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make install --> failed but i skipped this step
>
>5. cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod ; make install ; make install
>
>6. cp /usr/src/etc/MAKEDEV /dev ; sh MAKEDEV all ; ( MAKEDEV your own slice. see your own /etc/fstab ) ; change 'wd' to 'ad' in /etc/fstab 
>
>7. reboot to single user ( boot -s ) ; 
>    mount your partition with rw ( ex. /, /usr, /var, /home, etc. ) 
>
>8. cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info ; make install
>
>9. cd /usr/src ; make installworld
>( if happen any ld-elf.so warning, do 'ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc' 
>and 'make installworld' again. )
>
>10. mergemaster
>
>11. reboot( to nomal booting ) 
>
>
>This is the steps are described in /usr/src/UPDAING. -_-;
>Thanx for all who have given his hands to me. 
>
>Best regards,
>Tsoi.
>
>
>Thus spake Cambria, Mike (mcambria@lucent.com) :::::
>
>: I agree.  I just updated 2 machines last night.  A Pentium from 3.5-Stable
>: and a PIII from 3.4-Stable.  I had the make installworld problem on both,
>: but UPDATING expected the exact problem I had and suggested using ldconfig,
>: then redoing installworld.
>: 
>: The only other snag I hit (on both systems) was on the "make install" step
>: for /usr/src/sys/modules.  I hit a problem many others had on the -stable
>: mailing list.  I haven't seen an "official" answer on the list yet.  What I
>: did was just skipped this step until I was done with everything else.  Then
>: running 4.1-Stable in multiuser mode, I simply went into
>: /usr/src/sys/modules, did make, then make install.
>: 
>: MikeC
>: 
>: Michael C. Cambria              AVAYA Communication
>:                                     Formerly Lucent Technologies Enterprise
>: Networks Group 
>:    Voice: (978) 287 - 2807      300 Baker Avenue
>:      Fax: (978) 287 - 2810      Concord, Massachusetts 01742
>: Internet: mcambria@avaya.com <mailto:mcambria@avaya.com> 
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i have a sound blaster live value and when i compiled in 'device pcm' in the
kernel i get this error message about a thousand times (or whenver i play
sound)

pcm0: pci error

here is my dmesg, keep in mind that i can still actually play sound, but
this message is very annoying.

Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #1: Mon Jul 31 08:52:37 PDT 2000
    root@sprite.abac.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/SPRITE
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 551252232 Hz
CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (551.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x665  Stepping = 5

Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,
PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
real memory  = 134217728 (131072K bytes)
avail memory = 127148032 (124168K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0357000.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pcib1: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on
pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 11
at device 7.2 on pci0
usb0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhub0: port 1 power on failed, IOERROR
uhub0: port 2 power on failed, IOERROR
ums0: Microsoft Microsoft IntelliMouse\M-. Explorer, rev 1.10/1.03, addr 2,
iclass 3/1
ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir.
chip1: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> port 0x5000-0x500f at
device 7.3 on pci0
ed0: <NE2000 PCI Ethernet (RealTek 8029)> port 0xe400-0xe41f irq 5 at device
11.0 on pci0
ed0: address 52:54:00:e2:26:3d, type NE2000 (16 bit)
pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> port 0xe800-0xe81f irq 12 at device 13.0 on pci0
bktr0: <BrookTree 878> mem 0xd7000000-0xd7000fff irq 10 at device 15.0 on
pci0
bktr0: Hauppauge Model 61001 A2M
Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips NTSC tuner.
pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x109e, dev=0x0878) at 15.1 irq 10
pci0: <NVidia Riva TNT graphics accelerator> at 17.0 irq 11
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
sio2: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio3: configured irq 9 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ata0-master: DMA limitted to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable
ad0: 19541MB <Maxtor 92041U4> [39703/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
ad1: 6194MB <SAMSUNG VG36483A> [13424/15/63] at ata0-slave using UDMA33
acd0: DVD-ROM <Pioneer DVD-ROM ATAPIModel DVD-115 0111> at ata1-master using
PIO4
acd1: CD-R <CD-R CDU928E> at ata1-slave using PIO4
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a
cd9660: RockRidge Extension
pcm0: pci error
pcm0: pci error
pcm0: pci error
pcm0: pci error
pcm0: pci error
pcm0: pci error
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On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Chan Tur Wei wrote:
...
: "make installkernel" simply copies the built kernel into /MYKERNEL,
: and so those marked lines above are needed to (a) zap the old kernel
: away (actually, just renamed as /kernel.old) and then (b) copy the new
: kernel in.
: 
: If you didn't do those steps, you'll simply be running the OLD kernel
: which in most cases will be the GENERIC or worse yet, your old 3.x
: kernel.

Or...

edit /boot/load.conf

- - kernel="/kernel"
+ kernel="/MYKERNEL"

I'm tempted to write a 'make replacekernel' target that does things like
that automated, would definately help out :)

: Hope this helps,
: 
:    -T.W.Chan-

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> On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Chan Tur Wei wrote:
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> : "make installkernel" simply copies the built kernel into /MYKERNEL,
> : and so those marked lines above are needed to (a) zap the old kernel
> : away (actually, just renamed as /kernel.old) and then (b) copy the new
> : kernel in.
> : 
> : If you didn't do those steps, you'll simply be running the OLD kernel
> : which in most cases will be the GENERIC or worse yet, your old 3.x
> : kernel.
> 
> Or...
> 
> edit /boot/load.conf
> 
> - - kernel="/kernel"
> + kernel="/MYKERNEL"
> 
> I'm tempted to write a 'make replacekernel' target that does things like
> that automated, would definately help out :)

It should just be a case of adding it to /boot/loader.conf as it will
overwrite the default in /boot/defaults/loader.conf.

This should probably be done as part of "installkernel".

-Dom


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or just add

makeoptions     KERNEL=kernel

to your config file and the kernel will go to the standard place.

Chris

> On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:42:48AM -0400, Matt Heckaman wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Chan Tur Wei wrote:
> > ...
> > : "make installkernel" simply copies the built kernel into /MYKERNEL,
> > : and so those marked lines above are needed to (a) zap the old kernel
> > : away (actually, just renamed as /kernel.old) and then (b) copy the new
> > : kernel in.
> > : 
> > : If you didn't do those steps, you'll simply be running the OLD kernel
> > : which in most cases will be the GENERIC or worse yet, your old 3.x
> > : kernel.
> > 
> > Or...
> > 
> > edit /boot/load.conf
> > 
> > - - kernel="/kernel"
> > + kernel="/MYKERNEL"
> > 
> > I'm tempted to write a 'make replacekernel' target that does things like
> > that automated, would definately help out :)
> 
> It should just be a case of adding it to /boot/loader.conf as it will
> overwrite the default in /boot/defaults/loader.conf.
> 
> This should probably be done as part of "installkernel".
> 
> -Dom
> 
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On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Holtor wrote:

> Hi again - I recently did a fresh install of freebsd
> 4.0 and upgraded it to the latest 4.1 right away. I
> started
> up the sshd thats built in (/usr/sbin/sshd) and it
> worked
> right from there. If memory serves me correctly I
> would
> normally have to install rsaref from ports wouldn't I?

    Not if you're using DSA...

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On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 12:33:09PM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Holtor wrote:
> > Hi again - I recently did a fresh install of freebsd 4.0 and
> > upgraded it to the latest 4.1 right away. I started up the sshd
> > thats built in (/usr/sbin/sshd) and it worked right from there. If
> > memory serves me correctly I would normally have to install rsaref
> > from ports wouldn't I?
>
>     Not if you're using DSA...

Does ssh-agent support DSA yet?  I looked, but I couldn't quite get it
to work...

-Dom


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I am trying to install the the stable version of the OS and I continue to
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Check out http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/.  It will help you determine what
is acutally causing the error.

Erick Mechler
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At Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 06:45:52PM -0400, Chris BeHanna said this:
:: Doug Barton wrote:
:: 
:: >         Signals 10 and 11 are almost always hardware.
:: 
::     Not in my experience.  Signal 11 is usually the result of attempting to
:: dereference a NULL pointer.  Signal 10 is usually the result of attempting to
:: dereference a pointer that contains a garbage address.
:: 
::     At least, that's been my experience.  YMMV.
:: 
:: Regards,
:: Chris BeHanna
:: behanna@zbzoom.net
:: 
:: 
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On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 plamendp@bgstore.com wrote:

> Given this example IPs:
> 
> My Home PC: 193.68.31.27 /dynamic IP from ISP, dial-up/
> My Server: 193.68.22.2
> 
> I can telnet /and pop3 server is ok, popper/
> 
> Now, with this:
> 
> My Home PC: 212.50.35.2 /dynamic IP from another ISP, dial-up/
> My Server: 193.68.22.2 
> 
> I CAN NOT telnet /pop3 server connection refused  as well/
> 
> Why that ? /etc/hosts.allow 's first line is
> 
> ALL : ALL : allow
> 
> I have root privileges on my server! Actualy, this is my server plugged in the first ISP's LAN.

    Do you have a firewall enabled on your server?  If so, do you have
a rule there that restricts access, allowing only 193.68.0.0/16?

    Finally, does your ISP block privileged ports?

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On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Dominic Mitchell wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 12:33:09PM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote:
> > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Holtor wrote:
> > > Hi again - I recently did a fresh install of freebsd 4.0 and
> > > upgraded it to the latest 4.1 right away. I started up the sshd
> > > thats built in (/usr/sbin/sshd) and it worked right from there. If
> > > memory serves me correctly I would normally have to install rsaref
> > > from ports wouldn't I?
> >
> >     Not if you're using DSA...
> 
> Does ssh-agent support DSA yet?  I looked, but I couldn't quite get it
> to work...

    I didn't use ssh-agent, but sshd and ssh-keygen certainly do, as
does just plain old ssh.

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Chris BeHanna wrote:

> Ted Sikora wrote:
>
> > Recently my cable service
> > reduced the bandwidth. Now upstreams average 16k and downstream 400k.
> > There has to be something better. Several users on my node (all
> > BSD/Linux users) have been enjoying our own little private network with
> > speeds up to 900k both ways.(600k average) Now it's terrible. They now
> > limited the internal network to 33k between users. Compared to before
> > it's like putting us on dialups.
>
>     When you signed on, didn't you agree to pay  per month for a given
> service level?  If I understand you correctly, @home has now changed the terms
> of the agreement.
>
>     We need competition for cable service in a big, big way.  :-(

Big time. For instance I had a line problem. -.39 line strength. Anything below
-.32 should not work. But mine(Lan City modem) kept working. They refused to
send a linetech because it was still working.

>
>
>     I don't have the option for DSL where I live (yet), and my cable "ISP" (I
> have to put that in quotes, because they couldn't find their bungholes with
> both hands and a roadmap) guarantees 1500K down and 500K up for what I'm
> paying, BUT they block all the ports below 1024.  :-(

That really sucks. That I couldn't  live with. I guess I better count my
blessings.

>
>
>     I can hack around that, given a friendly site outside their firewall who's
> willing to divert packets for me, but it's still a PITA.
>
> Regards,
> Chris BeHanna
> behanna@zbzoom.net
>
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On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Mark Thornton wrote:

> I am trying to install the the stable version of the OS and I continue to
> get the message "can't CD to '4.0-STABLE'... on this server".
> 
> It is obvious that I don't get it, and the docs don't cover how to install
> release vs. stable vs. current. I downloaded the floppies from the

The docs cover how to install a release.
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html

Stable and current are advanced topics. You don't install them in any way
resembling the installation of a released version.

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cutting-edge.html

> 4.0-STABLE version on releng4.freebsd.org, what else was I supposed to do?
> Where are the concise docs on this procedure?

Somehow you found out about stable and current. Could you please tell me
where you found out about them? It seems folks have been trying to
_install_ stable and current as if they were releases.  I am wondering if
something on the website is misleading or if people are just guessing.

Thank you,
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Kevin wrote:
> 
> i have a sound blaster live value and when i compiled in 'device pcm' in the
> kernel i get this error message about a thousand times (or whenver i play
> sound)
> 
> pcm0: pci error
> 
> here is my dmesg, keep in mind that i can still actually play sound, but
> this message is very annoying.

Many others -- including myself -- are experiencing the same problem.. 
Are you hearing the crackling also?
I'm not aware of any fix for this though.

	-mike


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On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:57:35 +0100  Dominic Mitchell wrote:
 +------------------
 | On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:38:56AM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote:
 | > I find
 | > the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem.  It is similar
 | > to the whole /usr/local/etc/rc.d scheme where we are adding a
 | > layer of indirection when there is no need for one.
 | 
 | On the contrary - I find it a complete godsend.  It makes replacing the
 | standard sendmail with a port/package and absolute breeze.  It's far
 | nicer than having each port hack around in /usr/sbin for no good reason.
 | 
 | -Dom
 +------------------

My point is that there is a perfectly good mechinism in existance to allow
switching between MTA.  The rc.conf mechinism works well and is consistant
for all other components of the system.  In this one case we add a layer of
indirection below rc.conf.
Why not simply use something like

    mta_enable="YES"
    mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail
or
    mta_ena
    mta=/usr/sbin/qmail

and the appropriate frag in /etc/rc to work with this
I find the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem ;-)

chris
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holtor> Hi all - I have been waiting for the base sendmail in
holtor> freebsd, now 8.9.3 to be updated to the latest one
holtor> which is 8.11.0. Anyone have any appox. dates for
holtor> this?

I'll be doing this as soon as I return from IETF.  I didn't wanto to do my
first commit to FreeBSD while I was away.


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In message <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> "Corey G." writes:
: How come these exact procedures are not included in /usr/src/UPDATING
: after upgrading to 4.1?  For example, the only mention of "mergemaster"
: is when upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 stable.   I do not see any mention of
: the exact procedures below in my newly created /usr/src/UPDATING file
: after a cvsup to 4.1.

Because I'm lazy and no body has sent me anything to put there. 

Warner


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On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Christoph Sold wrote:

> Read up in the archives. There was a heated discussion about two weeks
> ago. In short: someone warned, but the current users thought the
> warning in UDATING to be enough. Since too many people have been
> bitten by this, they erred.

Submit something better instead of complaining :-P

Kris

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Sorry, i forgot that steps you mentioned to write here, but actually i did.

Thanks for indication.

Thus spake Chan Tur Wei (twchan@singnet.com.sg) :::::

: Hi,
: 
: Like you, I also initially skipped the following marked lines from /usr/src/UPDATING:
: 
:          make buildkernel KERNEL=<YOUR_KERNEL_HERE>
:          make installkernel  KERNEL=<YOUR_KERNEL_HERE>
:          # Verify that the new kernel works, it will be installed as
:          # /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
:          chflags noschg /kernel              <---
:          chflags noschg /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE    <---
:          mv /kernel /kernel.old              <---
:          mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel        <---
:          chflags schg /kernel                <---
: 
: "make installkernel" simply copies the built kernel into /MYKERNEL, and so those marked lines above are needed to (a) zap the old kernel away (actually, just renamed as /kernel.old) and then (b) copy the new kernel in.
: 
: If you didn't do those steps, you'll simply be running the OLD kernel which in most cases will be the GENERIC or worse yet, your old 3.x kernel.
: 
: 
: Hope this helps,
: 
:    -T.W.Chan-
: 
: At 09:04 PM 8/1/00 +0900, H . S . YOON wrote:
: >I succeeded!
: >
: >My step is like this..
: >
: >1. CVSuped to RELENG_4  && 'CFLAGS= -O -pipe' 'USA_RESIDENT=NO' 
: >in /etc/make.conf ( i'm not an American )
: >
: >2. cd /usr/src ; make buildworld
: >
: >3. cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf ; cp GENERIC MYKERNEL && configure MYKERNEL ;
: >    cd /usr/src ; make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL ; 
: >    make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
: >
: >4. cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make install --> failed but i skipped this step
: >
: >5. cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod ; make install ; make install
: >
: >6. cp /usr/src/etc/MAKEDEV /dev ; sh MAKEDEV all ; ( MAKEDEV your own slice. see your own /etc/fstab ) ; change 'wd' to 'ad' in /etc/fstab 
: >
: >7. reboot to single user ( boot -s ) ; 
: >    mount your partition with rw ( ex. /, /usr, /var, /home, etc. ) 
: >
: >8. cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info ; make install
: >
: >9. cd /usr/src ; make installworld
: >( if happen any ld-elf.so warning, do 'ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc' 
: >and 'make installworld' again. )
: >
: >10. mergemaster
: >
: >11. reboot( to nomal booting ) 
: >
: >
: >This is the steps are described in /usr/src/UPDAING. -_-;
: >Thanx for all who have given his hands to me. 
: >
: >Best regards,
: >Tsoi.
: >
: >
: >Thus spake Cambria, Mike (mcambria@lucent.com) :::::
: >
: >: I agree.  I just updated 2 machines last night.  A Pentium from 3.5-Stable
: >: and a PIII from 3.4-Stable.  I had the make installworld problem on both,
: >: but UPDATING expected the exact problem I had and suggested using ldconfig,
: >: then redoing installworld.
: >: 
: >: The only other snag I hit (on both systems) was on the "make install" step
: >: for /usr/src/sys/modules.  I hit a problem many others had on the -stable
: >: mailing list.  I haven't seen an "official" answer on the list yet.  What I
: >: did was just skipped this step until I was done with everything else.  Then
: >: running 4.1-Stable in multiuser mode, I simply went into
: >: /usr/src/sys/modules, did make, then make install.
: >: 
: >: MikeC
: >: 
: >: Michael C. Cambria              AVAYA Communication
: >:                                     Formerly Lucent Technologies Enterprise
: >: Networks Group 
: >:    Voice: (978) 287 - 2807      300 Baker Avenue
: >:      Fax: (978) 287 - 2810      Concord, Massachusetts 01742
: >: Internet: mcambria@avaya.com <mailto:mcambria@avaya.com> 
: >
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hi there,
I just installed FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. Well, I got this new thing that's
called IPv6 older versions of FreeBSD never asked me that before. Anyway I
said YES and hope that's not gonna casue me any trouble. 'cause i have no
idea what ipv6 is. can someone tell me if it's gonna cause me any problem?
'cause i'm shipping my box to NY tomorrow morning.

I have the following lines in /etc/rc.conf

ipv6-enable="YES"
usbd_enable="YES"

I've never seen them and just wanted to make sure that they won't cause any
trouble.

Thanks,

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On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 05:40:21PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote:

[...]
> ipv6-enable="YES"
> usbd_enable="YES"
> 
> I've never seen them and just wanted to make sure that they won't cause any
> trouble.

If you're not going to use it, the best thing to do is to disable it.
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If memory serves me right, "Nader Turki" wrote:

> I just installed FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. Well, I got this new thing that's
> called IPv6 older versions of FreeBSD never asked me that before. Anyway I
> said YES and hope that's not gonna casue me any trouble. 'cause i have no
> idea what ipv6 is. can someone tell me if it's gonna cause me any problem?
> 'cause i'm shipping my box to NY tomorrow morning.

IPv6 is the next version of the Internet Protocol (otherwise known as
IP, or IPv4).  If you don't know what it is, you probably aren't going
to be using it for anything, so I'd suggest turning off the applicable
line in /etc/rc.conf.

Is is going to cause you any problems if you leave it on?  Probably 
not, but why have a feature turned on that you won't (in all 
likelihood) be needing?  Especially since you're shipping it off to a 
remote location (presuming that New York is not where you are).

> I have the following lines in /etc/rc.conf
> 
> ipv6-enable="YES"
> usbd_enable="YES"

I wasn't sure if you were asking about this or not, but for more
information on usbd, "man usbd".  It's a part of the suppport for the 
Universal Serial Bus.

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I just encountered a user who was getting an error when trying to compile
a new kernel.  This as during the config step.  The error was:

config: line 238: syntax error

Line 238 was:

device         pcm             # SB16 PCI

which was the last line in the file.  I then suggested then they add a
CRLF to the end of the file (so that the last line was an empy
line).  config then ran successfully.

Is this a known problem?  If so, I'll add a note to the handbook so
newbies don't get caught out like that.  It caused this person (and no
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Todays commit to sys/pci/if_dc.c produces this error:



cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions
-ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include  -D_KERNEL 
-include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  ../../pci/if_dc.c
../../pci/if_dc.c: In function `dc_setcfg':
../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared
 (first use in this function)
../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.)
*** Error code 1


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Hello Warner,

Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> In message <20000731030044.A17511@flashcom.net> "Corey G." writes:
> : How come these exact procedures are not included in /usr/src/UPDATING
> : after upgrading to 4.1?  For example, the only mention of "mergemaster"
> : is when upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 stable.   I do not see any mention of
> : the exact procedures below in my newly created /usr/src/UPDATING file
> : after a cvsup to 4.1.
> 
> Because I'm lazy and no body has sent me anything to put there.

So I try to jump in :-)

What about the following in /usr/src/UPDATING :


---Begin Suggestion---

COMMON ITEMS:

        To build a kernel
        -----------------
        cd /usr/src
        # If you have not already done so, please buildworld here
        # You will also want to update your kernel config file.
	# For IBM-PC compatible systems <arch> is "i386":
	cd /usr/src/sys/<arch>/conf
        # Usually people tend to start with GENERIC from 4.0 and hack
from there.
	cp GENERIC YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
	# Using your favourite editor: Throw out things of <YOUR_KERNEL_HERE>,
	# you don't need and merge in the appropriate lines from LINT.
	cd /usr/src
        make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
        make installkernel  KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
        # Verify that the new kernel works, it will be installed as
        # /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
        chflags noschg /kernel
        chflags noschg /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
        mv /kernel /kernel.old
        mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel
        chflags schg /kernel 
	# In order to make the new kernel work, you have to reboot.
	# Don't do this now, if you're in the middle of a
buildworld/installworld
	# after upgrading your system via CVS. See below for CVS.
	reboot


        To rebuild disk /dev entries
        ----------------------------
[snip]
        Except when it doesn't work :-)



        To update your system via CVS (tracking the STABLE-branch)
        ----------------------------------------------------------
        # Follow the instructions on
http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#cvs
	# or in /usr/share/doc/handbook/synching.html
	# to download the newest files via CVS
	cd /usr/src
        make buildworld
        # Follow directions to build/install a kernel
	# from above, but DON'T REBOOT NOW
        shutdown now
        <in single user>
        cd /usr/src
        make installworld
        mergemaster
        reboot
       
<multi-user>                                                           


---End Suggestion

And I think there is one line in  "To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable",
which isn't correct (don't know exactly, as I never did this). Watch the
line marked with -->   <-- :

        To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable
        --------------------------------
        <see notes below>                               [3]
        cd /usr/src
        <see notes below>                               [2]
        make buildworld
        <follow directions to build/install a kernel>
        cd /usr/src/sys/modules
        make install
        cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod
        make install
        <follow rebuild disk /dev entries above>        [1]
-->     reboot   <--
        <in single user>
        cd /usr/src
        cd gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info
        make install
        cd ../../../..
        make installworld                               [5]
        mergemaster                                     [4]
        reboot
       
<multi-user>                                                          


This line should be "shutdown now", isn't it? Any further suggestions to
make life of Warner easier?

Ciao
Siegbert


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on Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Bryan Liesner babbled ..

;; 
;; Todays commit to sys/pci/if_dc.c produces this error:
;; 
;; 
;; 
;; cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes
;; -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions
;; -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include  -D_KERNEL 
;; -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  ../../pci/if_dc.c
;; ../../pci/if_dc.c: In function `dc_setcfg':
;; ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared
;;  (first use in this function)
;; ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
;; ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.)
;; *** Error code 1

*nods slowly*

Just installed 4.1-REL, and just cvsup'd to -stable, I figured it was a
kernel program on my part, I guess not.

This error appears to be related to the 'dc' interface, from what I can
tell .. (the other if_*.c files I see compiled have to do with
corresponding ethernet cards .. I could be wrong, in fact I bet I am,
considering it's compiled even if 'dc' is not in my config file.

My make for the kernel dies on the following..

Could someone send me a personal message when this is resolved?

===> dc
cc -O -pipe  -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs
-Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline
-Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I-  -I. -I@
-I@/../include  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -c
/usr/src/sys/modules/dc/../../pci/if_dc.c
/usr/src/sys/modules/dc/../../pci/if_dc.c: In function `dc_setcfg':
/usr/src/sys/modules/dc/../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN'
undeclared (first use in this function)
/usr/src/sys/modules/dc/../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared
identifier is reported only once
/usr/src/sys/modules/dc/../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it
appears in.)
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/dc.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/AHSATAN.
home# 

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I got the following messages from a 4.0-RC machine today while playing 
with find on a vinum (RAID-5) partition with about 10 copies of the
results of the "make release" tree:

Aug  2 02:02:21 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 0 of
object 0xc2a01000 size 4096 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de)
Aug  2 02:02:21 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 0 of
object 0xc2a01000 size 4096 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de)
Aug  2 02:03:38 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 9 of
object 0xc315a000 size 8192 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de)
Aug  2 02:03:38 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 9 of
object 0xc315a000 size 8192 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de)

... and that doesn't sound very good.  Soft updates is on, in this
case.

One thing I've noticed is that I often have to "rebuildparity" on the
system.  I had a busy tar process running when I halted the system
last ... and it's come up with a disk that fails vinum checkparity.

Dave.

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Greg Prosser wrote:
> on Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Bryan Liesner babbled ..
> ;; Todays commit to sys/pci/if_dc.c produces this error:
> ;; ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared
> 
> *nods slowly*
> 
> Just installed 4.1-REL, and just cvsup'd to -stable, I figured it was a
> kernel program on my part, I guess not.

FWIW, same breakage here, cvsupped a few minutes ago from cvsup3.au.
Oddly, I do not have a "device dc" line in my kernel conf.
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Please don't wrap log messages.

On Tuesday,  1 August 2000 at 23:32:36 -0400, David Gilbert wrote:
> I got the following messages from a 4.0-RC machine today while playing
> with find on a vinum (RAID-5) partition with about 10 copies of the
> results of the "make release" tree:
>
> Aug  2 02:02:21 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 0 of object 0xc2a01000 size 4096 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de)
> Aug  2 02:02:21 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 0 of object 0xc2a01000 size 4096 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de)
> Aug  2 02:03:38 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 9 of object 0xc315a000 size 8192 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de)
> Aug  2 02:03:38 news /kernel: Data modified on freelist: word 9 of object 0xc315a000 size 8192 previous type devbuf (0x0 != 0xdeadc0de)
>
> ... and that doesn't sound very good.

No, indeed.

> Soft updates is on, in this case.

There's nothing in the message which shows where this problem is
occurring.  We'd really need a dump.

> One thing I've noticed is that I often have to "rebuildparity" on
> the system.  I had a busy tar process running when I halted the
> system last ... and it's come up with a disk that fails vinum
> checkparity.

Yes, there was a problem there.  Upgrade to 4.1.

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On 1 Aug 2000, at 13:04, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:

> Please provide revision numbers or checkout dates for working /
> non-working versions.

My previous message was for non-working version.  If I take the fetch 
binary from my 4.0-stable box and put it on my 4.1-stable box, it works. 
 Here's what's on my 4.0-stable box:

* $FreeBSD: src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c,v 1.10.2.4 2000/07/21 11:20:00 des 
Exp $
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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Phil Homewood wrote:

> Greg Prosser wrote:
> > on Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Bryan Liesner babbled ..
> > ;; Todays commit to sys/pci/if_dc.c produces this error:
> > ;; ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared
> > 
> > *nods slowly*
> > 
> > Just installed 4.1-REL, and just cvsup'd to -stable, I figured it was a
> > kernel program on my part, I guess not.
> 
> FWIW, same breakage here, cvsupped a few minutes ago from cvsup3.au.
> Oddly, I do not have a "device dc" line in my kernel conf.

Modules are built regardless of the contents of your kernel config
file..thats kind of the whole point in fact, so you can add support for 
a new device without having to recompile :-)

Kris

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I want to create a NOIPF option for make.conf similar in nature for 
NOBIND.  Can someone point me as to where to look for the use of the 
NOBIND option?  I tried this, then figured I should ask:

[root@ducky:/usr/src] # grep NOBIND Makefile
[root@ducky:/usr/src] # 

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Thanks des, hope this helps.

On 1 Aug 2000, at 13:04, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:

> Please provide revision numbers or checkout dates for working /
> non-working versions.

* $FreeBSD: src/lib/libfetch/fetch.c,v 1.10.2.4 2000/07/21 11:20:00 des Exp $

> If at all possible, rebuild libfetch with DEBUG defined (see
> instructions below) and mail me the output of failed transfers.
> 
> # cd /usr/src/lib/libfetch && \
>     make cleandir && \
>     make obj && \
>     make depend && \
>     make -DDEBUG && \
>     make install


# fetch http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-wm/icewm-
i18n/pkg/DESCR?rev=1.2
scheme:   [http]
user:     []
password: []
host:     [www.FreeBSD.org]
port:     [0]
document: [/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-wm/icewm-
i18n/pkg/DESCR?rev=1.2]
---> www.FreeBSD.org:80
>>> GET /cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-wm/icewm-
i18n/pkg/DESCR?rev=1.2 HTTP/1.1
>>> Host: www.FreeBSD.org
>>> User-Agent: fetch libfetch/2.0
>>> Connection: close
>>> 
<<< HTTP/1.0 200 OK
<<< Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 19:34:11 GMT
<<< Server: Apache/1.3.x (Unix)
<<< Xonnection: close
<<< Content-Type: text/plain
<<< 
offset: 0, length: -1, size: -1, clength: -1
Receiving DESCR?rev=1.2 (4294967295 bytes): 0%
258 bytes transferred in 0.0 seconds (122.84 kBps)
fetch: DESCR?rev=1.2 appears to be truncated: 258/4294967295 bytes
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On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 02:03:57PM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:57:35 +0100  Dominic Mitchell wrote:
>  +------------------
>  | On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:38:56AM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote:
>  | > I find
>  | > the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem.  It is similar
>  | > to the whole /usr/local/etc/rc.d scheme where we are adding a
>  | > layer of indirection when there is no need for one.
>  | 
>  | On the contrary - I find it a complete godsend.  It makes replacing the
>  | standard sendmail with a port/package and absolute breeze.  It's far
>  | nicer than having each port hack around in /usr/sbin for no good reason.
>  | 
>  | -Dom
>  +------------------
> 
> My point is that there is a perfectly good mechinism in existance to allow
> switching between MTA.  The rc.conf mechinism works well and is consistant
> for all other components of the system.  In this one case we add a layer of
> indirection below rc.conf.
> Why not simply use something like
> 
>     mta_enable="YES"
>     mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail
> or
>     mta_ena
>     mta=/usr/sbin/qmail
> 
> and the appropriate frag in /etc/rc to work with this
> I find the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem ;-)

But that will only affect the MTA listening for relays. It will not
change what executable a program trying to send mail on the local
machine will exec to send mail... Unless now everything that sends
mail has to source rc.conf first. Yuck.
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    I wrote the following in response to an off-list question from a
new FreeBSD-er who wanted to know how to track STABLE.  I thought it
might be of more general use, so I'm forwarding it here.  Apologies to
those of you who already know this stuff.

    I wouldn't be the slightest bit heartbroken if someone stole from
it and compiled it into more formal documentation.  :-)


Q: What is CVSup and how does it work?  How do I run it?


Background
----------

    First of all "CVS" is a source code control system that allows
files to be stored in versions.  What it does is store a base
revision, and then it stores the changes that are needed to alter the
file to the next revision (and the next, and the next, and so on to
the most recent, or "head" revision).  CVS can operate both on local
files and on files shared over a network.

    Like any decent source code control system, CVS allows certain
revisions to be given symbolic names, or "tags".  An entire source
tree can be given the same tag, and whatever the head revision of each
file was at the instant the tag was laid down is given the same tag.
Thus, the tagged revisions make up a "snapshot" of the source tree at
the instant the tree was tagged.

    Also, like any decent source code control system, CVS allows
developers to branch off from the main line of development to develop
different versions of a product more or less independently.  Changes
on the mainline and on the branches can be merged back and forth as
needed (e.g., when someone fixes something critical on the 5.0 branch,
they back-propagate the fix to the branches for previous versions).
The current active branches are 4.0-STABLE (identified by the CVS tag
RELENG_4) and 5.0-CURRENT (the mainline).

    In FreeBSD-land, snapshots form the releases (3.4-RELEASE,
3.5-RELEASE, and so on).  To make a release, a given branch is given a
tag, and the tagged branch becomes the release.  For example, to make
4.0-RELEASE, the 4.0-STABLE branch was tagged with the label
"RELENG_4_0_0_RELEASE".  To make 4.1-RELEASE, the 4.0-STABLE branch
was tagged branch with the label "RELENG_4_1_1_RELEASE".  At that
instant, 4.0-STABLE became 4.1-STABLE, with 4.1-RELEASE being the
point of transition.

    To recap, a tag is a symbolic name for a version of a file, and
several files can share the same tag, forming a snapshot in time of
those files' revisions.  Files can be active on branches, as well, so
that changes in one branch don't break things in the other(s) (e.g.,
experimental stuff in 5.0-CURRENT doesn't break 4.0-STABLE because
they're on separate branches).

    Here's a picture with a few representative events:


---X--------------X----------------------------> HEAD (5.0-CURRENT)
    \              \
     \              ---X-------------------X---> RELENG_4 (4.1-STABLE)
   ^  \           ^    ^                   ^                     
   |   \--------X-+----+----------------X RELENG_3 (3.5-RELEASE)  
   |            ^ |    |                ^  |
   |            | |    |                |  |
   |            | |    |                |  Snapshot that
Version 3.x     | |  Snapshot that      |  became
branch created  | |  became             |  4.1-RELEASE. At
                | |  4.0-RELEASE        |  this moment, 4.0-STABLE
                | |                     |  became 4.1-STABLE.
                | |                     |
                | |                  Snapshot
                | Version 4.x        that became
                | branch created     3.5-RELEASE.
                |                    This was the
            Snapshot                 terminal release
            that became              for the 3.x branch,
            3.4-RELEASE              which is now retired.

    Notice that development continues after a release.  A release is
supposed to represent a very stable point during development, during
which extra care was taken to make sure that the operating system
didn't have any experimental code in it, and that as much stuff as
possible was working.

    The ongoing development in the STABLE branch represents bug fixes
and well-tested enhancements and additions to the operating system.
The ongoing development in the CURRENT branch represents bleeding edge
development of new stuff that doesn't always work.

    Don't worry if this is confusing at first.  It takes a little
while to get used to the notion of a source code control system and
the idea of different branches of development, and it takes a couple
of hours of RTFM to master CVS.  Fortunately, you don't have to master
it to use CVSup; it's sufficient just to understand the concepts.

    CVS is implemented in the "cvs" command suite.  Full documentation
(and a FAQ) is located at http://www.loria.fr/~molli/cvs-index.html .

CVSup
-----

    "CVSup" is a protocol that FreeBSD uses for batch distribution of
changed files.  The files are organized into packages.  Whereas CVS
can update individual files, CVSup can only update collections of
files.  Within each package, CVSup only updates the files that are
out-of-date.

    CVSup's activity is controlled by two configuration files:  a
"supfile" that tells CVSup what packages to update (and to what
revision tags to update them), and a "refuse" file to tell CVSup not
to update certain files within packages.

    The CVSup protocol is implemented in the command "cvsup".

    I hope that's been a helpful introduction.  For more details, you
really need to refer to the handbook, in particular, Section 18:
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cutting-edge.html .  The specific
instructions to get you started (including a template supfile) are
there.  Be sure to read the comments in the supfile!

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On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Dan Langille wrote:

> I want to create a NOIPF option for make.conf similar in nature for 
> NOBIND.  Can someone point me as to where to look for the use of the 
> NOBIND option?  I tried this, then figured I should ask:
> 
> [root@ducky:/usr/src] # grep NOBIND Makefile

grep -r NO_BIND /usr/src

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Hello,
    I have two questions that I need to get a good answer on.  I recently
purchased a SIIG AP-40 UltraWide SCSI controller.  It has the initio chipset
and I was wondering if it is compatible with Freebsd, and if so what device
do I have to enable in the kernel config?  Also I want to know if I do a
make world on a 4.0-STABLE system will it automatically be 4.1-STABLE if i
do a CVSUP every day?

Thanks.

-Robert



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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Robert Augustine wrote:

>     I have two questions that I need to get a good answer on.  I recently
> purchased a SIIG AP-40 UltraWide SCSI controller.  It has the initio chipset
> and I was wondering if it is compatible with Freebsd, and if so what device
> do I have to enable in the kernel config?

I don't see anything in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT or
http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/index.html.  You may try contacting
some of the individuals mentioned on that page or post to freebsd-scsi.

> Also I want to know if I do a make world on a 4.0-STABLE system will it
> automatically be 4.1-STABLE if i do a CVSUP every day?

Under 4.0-STABLE, if you cvsup using 
/usr/share/examples/cvsup/4.x-stable-supfile you will end up with
4.1-STABLE (or just 'stable').

-mrh



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Siegbert Baude <siegbert.baude@gmx.de> writes:

> ---Begin Suggestion---

Not bad, but:

>         # Verify that the new kernel works, it will be installed as
>         # /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
>         chflags noschg /kernel
>         chflags noschg /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
>         mv /kernel /kernel.old
>         mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel
>         chflags schg /kernel 

I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an
appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf:

        # Make sure that the new kernel gets booted the next time
        # you reboot by putting the following line in
        # /boot/loader.conf:
        kernel="/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE"

Or (and that's what I like more and do) in the section where one
modifies her kernel config file:

        # Make sure that the kernel gets installed as /kernel and
        # therefore gets loaded at boot time. Put a "kernel" entry
        # in your kernel config file, like this:
        makeoptions     KERNEL=kernel

Just my 0.42 Euro-Cent.

        Roland


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On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 plamendp@bgstore.com wrote:

> Actualy, I don't have 'login failers'. I just can't
> connect! "Connection refused", not login failer! I do not get login
> prompt at all!

Correct...  However, per inetd(8), wrapped services log failed attempts
using the auth syslog facility.

> 'host' is ok in both directions (host <name> and host <ip> gives the
> same name/IP). Can I assume resolving is ok ?

You did this from your server, not your home system, correct?  Just
checking, since inetd will obviouslly be using the DNS of your server to
see if a given host is allowed.  Do you have the same problem if you
comment out the PARANOID line in /etc/hosts.allow?

	#ALL : PARANOID : RFC931 20 : deny

What's a traceroute look like from the disallowed connection to the
server, and from the server to your disallowed IP?

> If i could force things to be logged somehow :-) I can send my
> /etc/syslog.conf if it will be of help ?

Hmm, I understand your pain...  I just attempted to make sshd log failed
attempts and...  I must be overlooking something really simple, because
it's not working.

I looked at inetd(8) and sshd(8).

I have the following in /etc/ssh/sshd_config by default:

	SyslogFacility AUTH
	LogLevel INFO

So I created the following in /etc/syslog.conf (Yes, those are tabs):

	auth.*                                  /var/log/auth.log

In sshd_config I even tried bumping LogLevel up to VERBOSE.  I touched
/var/log/auth.log and it is writeable by syslogd.

I then removed an allow rule for one of my boxes, ssh'd in, and got denied
without anything being logged to auth.log.  Sshd is standalone...  So
logging behavior relating to inetd shouldn't matter, but I noticed mention
of daemon.* being used by inetd so tried logging those too...  Still
nothing.

Hmm.

-mrh



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At 02 Aug 2000 09:58:04 +0200, Roland Jesse wrote:
> Siegbert Baude <siegbert.baude@gmx.de> writes:
> 
> > ---Begin Suggestion---
> 
> Not bad, but:
> 
> >         # Verify that the new kernel works, it will be installed as
> >         # /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
> >         chflags noschg /kernel
> >         chflags noschg /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
> >         mv /kernel /kernel.old
> >         mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel
> >         chflags schg /kernel 
> 
> I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an
> appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf:
> 
>         # Make sure that the new kernel gets booted the next time
>         # you reboot by putting the following line in
>         # /boot/loader.conf:
>         kernel="/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE"
> 
> Or (and that's what I like more and do) in the section where one
> modifies her kernel config file:
> 
>         # Make sure that the kernel gets installed as /kernel and
>         # therefore gets loaded at boot time. Put a "kernel" entry
>         # in your kernel config file, like this:
>         makeoptions     KERNEL=kernel

This has been taken care of in current but in a slightly different way.
When using the build/installkernel targets the built / installed kernel
is named 'kernel'
Hence, when these changes are MFC:ed this part is not needed at all in 
UPDATING.

I think it is better to MFC than adding this :-)

/Johan K



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On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 09:16:46PM -0700, Crist J . Clark wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 02:03:57PM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote:
> > My point is that there is a perfectly good mechinism in existance to allow
> > switching between MTA.  The rc.conf mechinism works well and is consistant
> > for all other components of the system.  In this one case we add a layer of
> > indirection below rc.conf.
> > Why not simply use something like
> > 
> >     mta_enable="YES"
> >     mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail
> > or
> >     mta_ena
> >     mta=/usr/sbin/qmail
> > 
> > and the appropriate frag in /etc/rc to work with this
> > I find the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem ;-)
> 
> But that will only affect the MTA listening for relays. It will not
> change what executable a program trying to send mail on the local
> machine will exec to send mail... Unless now everything that sends
> mail has to source rc.conf first. Yuck.

Precisely.  Like it or not, /usr/sbin/sendmail has become an interface
to sending mail and is *not* exclusive to sendmail.

-Dom (Paid up member of the Sendmail Must Die club)


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On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:47:33PM -0400, Coleman Kane wrote:
> Still, this is no excuse for changing the port without asking the
> maintainer Obviously, something's amiss.

I compiled it yesterday on my 4.1-STABLE at home, and it would fail
with some really obscure messages. After a bit of looking around, I
realized some files in /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla or thereabouts where
only readable by root - silly that, they seem to be related to the
GUI, chmod go+rx fixed it. As it is, the port should only run by root.
Not a major problem with the port then.

For those of you that built mozilla M16, DO try /usr/ports/www/galeon.

HTH,

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Hi,

I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all, doc-all and ports-all).

I went to /usr/src/release and tried to "make release". It asked me to provide CVSROOT variable. And oops.. I am confused ... :-) 

Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ?

Any documentation regarding "make release" procedure ?

10x.

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On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 01:34:00PM +0100, plamendp@bgstore.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all,
> doc-all and ports-all).
>
> I went to /usr/src/release and tried to "make release". It asked me to
> provide CVSROOT variable. And oops.. I am confused ... :-)
>
> Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ?

You need to download the the cvs collections, not the "checked-out"
collections for make release to work.

> Any documentation regarding "make release" procedure ?

% less /usr/src/release/Makefile

:-)

-Dom


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From: Roland Jesse <jesse@mail.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De>
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Johan Karlsson <k@numeri.campus.luth.se> writes:

> This has been taken care of in current but in a slightly different way.
> When using the build/installkernel targets the built / installed kernel
> is named 'kernel'
> Hence, when these changes are MFC:ed this part is not needed at all in 
> UPDATING.
> 
> I think it is better to MFC than adding this :-)

Good news. I would appreciate if that is going to be announced here
and not silently done.

        Roland


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Matt Heckaman <matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET> writes:
> *nods* It still breaks wmstock though, it never sees itself as getting the
> complete file and errors out, and keeps on trying making temporary files
> that it never knows are correct :) Thank you for the quick diagnoses
> though, it's appreciated.

Quick fix (I think):

Index: http.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libfetch/http.c,v
retrieving revision 1.34
diff -u -r1.34 http.c
--- http.c	2000/07/25 11:45:38	1.34
+++ http.c	2000/08/02 11:17:09
@@ -770,8 +770,7 @@
     struct url *url, *new;
     int chunked, need_auth, noredirect, proxy, verbose;
     int code, fd, i, n;
-    off_t offset;
-    size_t clength, length, size;
+    off_t offset, clength, length, size;
     time_t mtime;
     char *p;
     FILE *f;

Now, the question is why gcc didn't warn me about this...

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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Dominic Mitchell wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 01:34:00PM +0100, plamendp@bgstore.com wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all,
> > doc-all and ports-all).
> >
> > I went to /usr/src/release and tried to "make release". It asked me to
> > provide CVSROOT variable. And oops.. I am confused ... :-)
> >
> > Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ?
> 
> You need to download the the cvs collections, not the "checked-out"
> collections for make release to work.
> 
> > Any documentation regarding "make release" procedure ?
> 
> % less /usr/src/release/Makefile

    SLOW DOWN!

    "make release" will make the iso images (right?)

    What he wants, I suspect, is to cd to /usr/src and follow the
instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING.

Regards,
Chris BeHanna
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On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:23:13AM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote:

>     SLOW DOWN!
> 
>     "make release" will make the iso images (right?)

	no, make release make only ftp,cd-version of install tree, no image

> 
>     What he wants, I suspect, is to cd to /usr/src and follow the
> instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING.

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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 plamendp@bgstore.com wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all, doc-all and ports-all).
> 
> I went to /usr/src/release and tried to "make release". It asked me to provide CVSROOT variable. And oops.. I am confused ... :-) 
> 
> Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ?
> 
> Any documentation regarding "make release" procedure ?
> 

http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/hackers.html#CUSTREL

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Hi,
> I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all, doc-all and ports-all).
You should fetch cvs collection.

Btw, I missed to find, that "make buildworld" is mandatory before make
release (It failed in several places, if I didn't build the
world). Therefore, during make release world is recompiled at least two
times. Is it a normal operation?

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On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:42:50AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> > I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all,
> > doc-all and ports-all).
...
> > Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ?
> 
> You need to download the the cvs collections, not the "checked-out"
> collections for make release to work.

You could also set CVSROOT to the anoncvs.freebsd.org service.  This
would be slower, but save you disk space.

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On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 02:03:57PM +0200, Domas Mituzas wrote:
> Btw, I missed to find, that "make buildworld" is mandatory before make
> release (It failed in several places, if I didn't build the
> world). Therefore, during make release world is recompiled at least two
> times. Is it a normal operation?

Yes, this is normal.  

However, today's buildworld is more resilent having better build-tools,
etc.. targets than when release/Makefile was first written.  Maybe this
need could be removed.  But this hasn't happened yet.
 
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In list.freebsd-stable Dan Langille <dan@langille.org> wrote:
 > config: line 238: syntax error
 > [...]
 > which was the last line in the file.  I then suggested then they add a
 > CRLF to the end of the file (so that the last line was an empy
 > line).  config then ran successfully.

Do you mean that the last line was not terminated by a
newline character?  In that case it was not a valid unix
textfile, and you'll get undefined behaviour.  This can't
happen when you use a unix text editor such as vi, which
always terminates the last line with a newline character.

If you mean that there really needed to be an empty line
after the last line (i.e. the last two characters in the
file had to be newlines), then I cannot reproduce the
problem here on a 4.1 box.  Even the last line in GENERIC
isn't empty, and it's working fine.  (If it wasn't, I'd
call this a bug in config.)

Regards
   Oliver

PS:  By the way, the newline is not "CRLF".  This is not
DOS.  ;-)

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In list.freebsd-stable Alexandr A Listopad <laa@laa.zp.ua> wrote:
 > On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:23:13AM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote:
 > >     SLOW DOWN!
 > > 
 > >     "make release" will make the iso images (right?)
 > 
 > 	no, make release make only ftp,cd-version of install tree, no image

Well, it will make the CD-ROM trees, and you can simply
use /usr/share/examples/worm/makecdfs.sh then to make
the images.  No problem at all.  I've done it a thousand
times.

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I did 'make buildworld' and 'make installwordl' before trying 'make
release'. :-)

However, now I realize that making a release is too hard for me :-( My
idea was to cvsup all src-es, make the world and, if everything is fine, 
to make a (spare) install CD with kind of MY-FREEBSD-SNAP :-).


Well, I'll keep trying ... I have enough disk space, resources and time to
try :-)

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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Domas Mituzas wrote:

> Btw, I missed to find, that "make buildworld" is mandatory before make
> release (It failed in several places, if I didn't build the
> world). Therefore, during make release world is recompiled at least two
> times. Is it a normal operation?
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Hello keep getting this error when i tried to do make buildworld or make
 world
 I'd read teh /usr/src/UPDATING but can't seem to figure out what is the
 problems with this
 anyone can point me to the right direction on fixing this problems

 Im currently runing 4.0 R.  Did a cvsup on the src and all the ports right
b
 4 i tried make buildworld.  I check and clean out /usr/obj before i did
make
 buildworld.  So /usr/obj is clean.  I goal is to upgrade to 4.0 STABLE and
 build a kernel after.

 I'd been at this make buildworld for bout the 10 times now.  One problems
 after next. This really got me.

I'd also tried to cd /usr/src/ make clean then make update
cvsup again. And make build world  I got the same error msg again

 Thx much


 /usr.bin/perl/perl -DSDBM -DDUFF pair.c
 cc -c -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl
 -DVERSION=\"0.10\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"0.10\" -DPIC -fpic
 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl -DSDBM -DDUFF hash.c
 Segmentation fault - core dumped
 *** Error code 139

 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/ext/SDBM_File/sdbm.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/ext/SDBM_File.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src/gnu.
 *** Error code 1
 Stop in /usr/src.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src.




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In list.freebsd-stable Domas Mituzas <midom@dammit.lt> wrote:
 > Btw, I missed to find, that "make buildworld" is mandatory before make
 > release (It failed in several places, if I didn't build the
 > world). Therefore, during make release world is recompiled at least two
 > times. Is it a normal operation?

Yes.  The second time, the world is built with the new
world inside the chroot tree.  This makes sure that you
get reproducible results, no matter what OS version is
running outside the chroot (as long as it can compile
the sources at all).

Regards
   Oliver

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On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:00:18AM -0500, Sean Kelly wrote:
> and productive, but I have one problem.  We have many HP/UX machines, and
> I am constantly connecting to them.  I can't find a terminal type on
> HP/UX that matches the FreeBSD console exactly.  'ansi' appears to be close,

Run ``screen'' (pkg_add -r screen) on the FreeBSD console.  Then set your
TERM=vt100 and connect to the HP-UX box.  Make sure TERM=vt100 there.
All should work fine.

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From all of this 'make a RELEASE' threath I realize the following:

1. I cvsup-ed all the sources

2. I made the world succesfully - i feel fine, i have a -STABLE FreeBSD,
working just as expected, I am happy with my STABLE FreeBSD :-) etc..

3. However I can not have it on a CD, just to have it on a safe place ?

Just imagine: some big crash and I have to start again from my last
FreeBSD Release (currently 4.0-R on a CDROM I purchased from
www.cdrom.com) step by step toward 'current' -STABLE ...


Well, well, FreeBSD Core & Developer Team :-) I know, things like that
happens and ... well, friend, yes, 'start again'... but... any workaround
?


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> the images.  No problem at all.  I've done it a thousand
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> 
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On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 05:44:10AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:00:18AM -0500, Sean Kelly wrote:
> > and productive, but I have one problem.  We have many HP/UX machines, and
> > I am constantly connecting to them.  I can't find a terminal type on
> > HP/UX that matches the FreeBSD console exactly.  'ansi' appears to be close,
> 
> Run ``screen'' (pkg_add -r screen) on the FreeBSD console.  Then set your
> TERM=vt100 and connect to the HP-UX box.  Make sure TERM=vt100 there.
> All should work fine.

An alternative is to take a copy of the cons25 entries from
/usr/share/misc/termcap and use captoinfo(1) on the HP-UX box to
translate from termcap to terminfo.  Then use tic(1) to compile them
(you may need to be root at this point - or set TERMINFO to point
somewhere you have write access to).

After that, HPUX should recognise the FreeBSD console type, "cons25".

A final alternative might be to recompile your kernel with pcvt instead
of syscons.  That'll give you a vt220 by default.  But I'm not sure how
well supported that is these days (probably fine; I just haven't heard
of anyone using it in a while).

-Dom


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         I have been trying to buildworld for about a week now.  I was 
getting a file exists error during libperl compile but after makeing clean 
and deleting the /usr/obj I now get this

********************************************************
sh config_h.sh
Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions)
rm -f .depend
mkdep -f .depend -a    -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perl.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perly.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/op.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/dump.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/util.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/mg.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/byterun.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/hv.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/av.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/run.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_hot.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/sv.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/scope.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_ctl.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_sys.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/doop.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/doio.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regexec.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/taint.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/deb.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/universal.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/globals.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perlio.c
cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl; make _EXTRADEPEND
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perl.c -o perl.o
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c -o gv.o
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o toke.o
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
********************************************************



Sorry if that was too much.  Personally I am fairly new at this but I have 
had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything.  If you need a 
full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply.  Can you please 
advise as to what can fix this.

Thanks,
Don


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<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>I have
been trying to buildworld for about a week now.&nbsp; I was getting a
file exists error during libperl compile but after makeing clean and
deleting the /usr/obj I now get this<br>
<br>
********************************************************<br>
<font face=3D"Courier New, Courier">sh config_h.sh<br>
Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions)<br>
rm -f .depend<br>
mkdep -f .depend -a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include&nbsp;
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perl.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perly.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/op.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/dump.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/util.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/mg.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/byterun.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/hv.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/av.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/run.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_hot.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/sv.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/scope.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_ctl.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_sys.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/doop.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/doio.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regexec.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/taint.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/deb.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/universal.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/globals.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perlio.c<br>
cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl; make _EXTRADEPEND<br>
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perl.c -o
perl.o<br>
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c -o
gv.o<br>
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o
toke.o<br>
*** Error code 1<br>
<br>
Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl.<br>
*** Error code 1<br>
<br>
Stop in /usr/src.<br>
*** Error code 1<br>
<br>
Stop in /usr/src.<br>
*** Error code 1<br>
<br>
Stop in /usr/src.<br>
</font>********************************************************<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Sorry if that was too much.&nbsp; Personally I am fairly new at this but
I have had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything.&nbsp; If
you need a full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply.&nbsp;
Can you please advise as to what can fix this.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Don<br>
<br>
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I am having this problem, when I have time to do it again, I rm'd perl5 and
am reCVSuping and then I will try again, I will try to post my results if it
succeeds.

Jonathan Fosburgh
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Communications and Computer Services
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>          I have been trying to buildworld for about a week now.  I was
> getting a file exists error during libperl compile but after makeing clean
> and deleting the /usr/obj I now get this
>
> ********************************************************
> sh config_h.sh
> Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions)
> rm -f .depend
> mkdep -f .depend -a    -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl
> -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5
> -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perl.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perly.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/op.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/dump.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/util.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/mg.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/byterun.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/hv.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/av.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/run.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_hot.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/sv.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/scope.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_ctl.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/pp_sys.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/doop.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/doio.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regexec.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/taint.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/deb.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/universal.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/globals.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perlio.c
> cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl; make _EXTRADEPEND
> cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl
> -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5
> -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perl.c -o
perl.o
> cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl
> -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5
> -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c -o gv.o
> cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl
> -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5
> -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o
toke.o
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src.
> ********************************************************
>
>
>
> Sorry if that was too much.  Personally I am fairly new at this but I have
> had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything.  If you need a
> full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply.  Can you please
> advise as to what can fix this.
>
> Thanks,
> Don
>
>



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obrien> However, today's buildworld is more resilent having better
obrien> build-tools, etc.. targets than when release/Makefile was
obrien> first written.  Maybe this need could be removed.  But this
obrien> hasn't happened yet.

If I understand the facts of src/release/Makefile correctly, 

- First 'make installworld' under /usr/src is for "creating a chroot
  environment for further release engineering." Maybe it can be
  supercedesed by copying existing environment or just extracting
  'bin' distribution. But there is no tool for this.

- Second 'make buildworld' inside a chroot environment is the actual
  build procedure. Obviously, it cannot remove :-)

- Second 'make installworld' inside a chroot environment is for
  "creating an environment for further _actual_ release procedures."
  Even though we have much much better procedures for build-tools,
  _actual_ release procedures (release.[1-9], doc.?, cdrom.?, and
  ftp.? target in src/release/Makefile) does not consider about
  that. If these procedures requires newer version of toolchain, it
  should be a release-breaker.

As a result, 

1) we can remove first 'make buildworld/installworld'
	- if there is an another way to build a chroot environment
	  (e.g., copy distributions, use existing environment), or
	- if we have a tool to create a chroot environment from
	  existing environment (maybe it also helps jail(8) users).

2) we can remove second 'make installworld'
	- if all tools used in actual release procedure depend on
	  the ones which are build by previous 'make buildworld'.

Maybe 1) is easy, 2) is a little bit difficult to do...

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On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 14:03 -0600, Chris Fedde wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:57:35 +0100  Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> 
> > On the contrary - I find it a complete godsend.  It makes
> > replacing the standard sendmail with a port/package and
> > absolute breeze.  It's far nicer than having each port hack
> > around in /usr/sbin for no good reason.
> 
> My point is that there is a perfectly good mechinism in
> existance to allow switching between MTA.  The rc.conf
> mechinism works well and is consistant for all other components
> of the system.  In this one case we add a layer of indirection
> below rc.conf.

MUAs don't know about rc.conf. :)

> Why not simply use something like
> 
>     mta_enable="YES"
>     mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail
> or
>     mta_ena
>     mta=/usr/sbin/qmail
> 
> and the appropriate frag in /etc/rc to work with this

That's just starting the SMTP daemon.  What about sending local /
remote mail using the usual "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -t" command
line?

What has been said before:  Try to use something different from
sendmail and suddenly you will see what mailwrapper is good for!
Or try to use a different sendmail from what comes with the base
system (like from ports or "self produced and bottled") while
still updating your base.

I would even dare to say NO_MAILWRAPPER(sp?) shouldn't be there
and there should be /etc/mail/mailer.conf only instead of
NO_SENDMAIL, but that's for traditional reasons I guess.
Installing your mailer _anywhere_ and using mailer.conf as the
only resource to tell which one to use would be the easiest and
most flexible solution IMO for _everybody_ -- or did I miss
something?  Where is this mechanism still not enough?  I can't
think of a situation.


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As -multimedia doesn't seem to be the best place for this, I will
retry here.

After switching from the historically way of building my kernel to
buildkernel, my sound support is gone.

As I have a card with an Aureal chip, I always uncomment the aureal.c
line in /sys/conf/files after updating /usr/src using cvsup.

The card is recognized. 'cat /dev/sndstat' says:

--- snip ---
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jul 31 2000 17:48:27
Installed devices:
pcm0: <Aureal Vortex 8820> at memory 0xde800000 irq 10 (1p/0r channels duplex)
--- snip ---

The point is:

--- snip ---
% mpg123 whatever.mp3 
High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3.
Version 0.59r (1999/Jun/15). Written and copyrights by Michael Hipp.
Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more!
THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Can't open /dev/dsp!
--- snip ---

The usual 'cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV all; sh MAKEDEV snd0' is done.

Any hints are welcome and appreciated.

        Roland


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In list.freebsd-stable Plamen Petkov <plamendp@plamen.bgstore.com> wrote:
 > From all of this 'make a RELEASE' threath I realize the following:
 > 
 > 1. I cvsup-ed all the sources

If you intend to "make release", then that's not enough.
You need the full CVS repository, not just a checked-out
source tree.

On the other hand, you could hack the release Makefile to
just copy /usr/src instead of checking it out from the
repository (obviously, this only works if yout /usr/src is
exactly the same version as the release that you're going
to make, but this is usually the case).  I've done that
before.  It also speeds up the "make release" quite a bit.

 > 3. However I can not have it on a CD, just to have it on a safe place ?
 > 
 > Just imagine: some big crash and I have to start again from my last
 > FreeBSD Release (currently 4.0-R on a CDROM I purchased from
 > www.cdrom.com) step by step toward 'current' -STABLE ...

It is just one step.
Install from your 4.0-R CD (soon to be 4.1-R, I guess),
then CVSup -stable, make world, done.

Apart from that:  You do have a backup, don't you?
So in case of a serious crash, you can just restore from
your backup.  That's what backups are good for.  ;-)

Regards
   Oliver

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On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 03:18:26AM -0400, Robert Augustine wrote:
> Hello,
>     I have two questions that I need to get a good answer on.  I recently
> purchased a SIIG AP-40 UltraWide SCSI controller.  It has the initio chipset
> and I was wondering if it is compatible with Freebsd, and if so what device
> do I have to enable in the kernel config? 

Take a look at http://innominate.org/~tgr/projects/FreeBSD/iha/

HTH 

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A few months ago there were a lot of messages about disk corruption
when using DMA with some (?) VIA ATA chipsets.  Is this fixed in 4.1?

-- Richard



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Hey guys,

	I've been using freebsd for a while now but
	i'm having problems with Raid card. I got a
	AcceleRAID 250 runing under FreeBSD 4.1. I
	called mylex and them told me to make my
	drives "Hot Swap in real time" i have to install
	the GAM program. But they don't provide it.

	Do your guys know any replacement to it ?

	Thank you

	Thiago Modelli
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I wrote:

> As I have a card with an Aureal chip, I always uncomment the aureal.c
> line in /sys/conf/files after updating /usr/src using cvsup.

The problem can be solved using the Areal driver from
<http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~matey/au88x0/>.

Thanks to Mike Murphree who pointed that out.

        Roland


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Hello,
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_output.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_subr.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_timer.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_usrreq.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/netinet/udp_usrreq.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_bio.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_node.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_nqlease.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_serv.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_socket.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_srvcache.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_subs.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_syscalls.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_vfsops.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_vnops.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c
/usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c: In function `dc_setcfg':
/usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared (first use in this function)
/usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
/usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.)
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ffnonwpboxes.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.

Cvsup started at 15:06 GMT didn't help as well. UT_NAMESIZE
and MAXLOGNAME are patched to be 31 and 32 chars long but this never
caused any problems so far. The config file was changed to include
options    EXT2FS
but reinstalling the backup of it I did before this change didn't change
anything.




Best regards,
 Gabriel




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From owner-freebsd-stable  Wed Aug  2  8:47:52 2000
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>>>>> "CF" == Chris Fedde <chris@fedde.littleton.co.us> writes:

CF> Why not simply use something like

CF>     mta_enable="YES"
CF>     mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail
CF> or
CF>     mta_ena
CF>     mta=/usr/sbin/qmail

SO what happens when your MUA invokes /usr/sbin/sendmail directly to
send a message and you're running qmail?

You *have* to replace the /usr/sbin/sendmail file with something
appropriate for your MTA of choice.


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As I recall, Chris BeHanna wrote:
> First of all "CVS" is a source code control system that allows files
> to be stored in versions.  What it does is store a base revision, and
> then it stores the changes that are needed to alter the file to the
> next revision (and the next, and the next, and so on to the most
> recent, or "head" revision).

Minor nit.  While SCCS keeps a base and then deltas to it, RCS and
CVS keep the most current version and the changes that created it.

The idea is that the most frequent checkout is for the latest version,
so that should be the easiest to do.  SCCS can take a while to run when
checking out, say, version 1.975.54.

	-crl
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On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:47:47AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote:
> 
> You *have* to replace the /usr/sbin/sendmail file with something
> appropriate for your MTA of choice.
> 
> 
	No you don't.  /usr/sbin/sendmail is now mailwrapper.

	I have been running qmail with mailiwrapper quite successfully
for almost as long as it existed in stable.  If you don't want the
sendmail bits lying around add NO_SENDMAIL=YES to make.conf.  Wether or not
the sendmail bits exist on your installation you edit /etc/mail/mailer.conf.

e.g.
sendmail	/var/qmail/bin/sendmail
send-mail	/var/qmail/bin/sendmail
mailq		/var/qmail/bin/qmail-qstat
newaliases	/usr/bin/false

I don't like the sendmail bits around, but I like the mailwrapper.  You can
have 6 different MTAs around and flip them around for the entire system
with these tuneable knobs.
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Hi,

I'm trying to go from 4.0-RELEASE to 4-STABLE (RELENG_4). cvsup went
fine, however I'm getting an internal compiler error while compiling
openssl:

make buildworld
...
[after quite some time of happily compiling]
...
cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA
-I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto
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-DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/e_xcbc_d.c
-o e_xcbc_d.So
cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA
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 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN
-DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/encode.c
-o encode.So
cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA
-I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto
 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN
-DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp_enc.c
-o evp_enc.So
cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA
-I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto
 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN
-DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp_err.c
-o evp_err.So
cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA
-I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto
 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN
-DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp_key.c
-o evp_key.So
cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA
-I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto
 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN
-DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp_lib.c
-o evp_lib.So
cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA
-I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto
 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN
-DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp_pbe.c
-o evp_pbe.So
cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA
-I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto
 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto -DL_ENDIAN
-DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp_pkey.c
-o evp_pkey.So
cc: Internal compiler error: program cpp got fatal signal 9
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.

Any ideas what may go wrong here? Did I miss something?

Thanks,
Bernhard


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KMD> 	No you don't.  /usr/sbin/sendmail is now mailwrapper.


You must have missed the whole discussion.  The person to whom I
responded said that /usr/sbin/sendmail should be just that: sendmail
not some wrapper.

My point is that you have to replace /usr/sbin/sendmail with something
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In message <398789CD.2DADAB33@gmx.de> Siegbert Baude writes:
: And I think there is one line in  "To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable",
: which isn't correct (don't know exactly, as I never did this). Watch the
: line marked with -->   <-- :
: 
:         To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable
:         --------------------------------
:         <see notes below>                               [3]
:         cd /usr/src
:         <see notes below>                               [2]
:         make buildworld
:         <follow directions to build/install a kernel>
:         cd /usr/src/sys/modules
:         make install
:         cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod
:         make install
:         <follow rebuild disk /dev entries above>        [1]
: -->     reboot   <--
:         <in single user>
:         cd /usr/src
:         cd gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info
:         make install
:         cd ../../../..
:         make installworld                               [5]
:         mergemaster                                     [4]
:         reboot
:        
: <multi-user>                                                          
: 
: 
: This line should be "shutdown now", isn't it? Any further suggestions to
: make life of Warner easier?

No.  It should be "reboot" since that's the simplest thing.  "shutdown
now" doesn't cause the machine to reboot, but merely causes the
processor to halt.  It is the same thing as "halt," unless you have
users on the machine, in which case they will get a nice message
before the machine dies....

I'll take a look the rest of what you sent.

Warner


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In message <0vd7jsf62b.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Roland Jesse writes:
: I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an
: appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf:

Actually, make installkernel was fixed so that you don't need to do
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In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008020041340.15796-100000@snafu.adept.org> Mike Hoskins writes:
: You did this from your server, not your home system, correct?  Just
: checking, since inetd will obviouslly be using the DNS of your server to
: see if a given host is allowed.  Do you have the same problem if you
: comment out the PARANOID line in /etc/hosts.allow?
: 
: 	#ALL : PARANOID : RFC931 20 : deny
: 
: What's a traceroute look like from the disallowed connection to the
: server, and from the server to your disallowed IP?

Yes.  This PARANOID option is really quite silly since RFC 931 is
useless outside of your own administrative domain and off dubious
value inside it.  Best to leave it commented out.

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A correction.....The error is still
mkdir: build: File exists
This is while compiling libperl.
When I looked at the file that I redirected the buildworld to it didn't show.
As a note I am running an stock install of freebsd 4.0 Release.  I cvsup'd 
several times (once before each buildworld)

At 08:59 AM 8/2/00 -0400, you wrote:
>         I have been trying to buildworld for about a week now.  I was 
> getting a file exists error during libperl compile but after makeing 
> clean and deleting the /usr/obj I now get this
>
>********************************************************
>
>cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl 
>-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 
>-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c 
>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c -o gv.o
>cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl 
>-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 
>-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c 
>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o toke.o
>*** Error code 1
>
>Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl.
>*** Error code 1
>
>Stop in /usr/src.
>*** Error code 1
>
>Stop in /usr/src.
>*** Error code 1
>
>Stop in /usr/src.
>********************************************************
>
>
>
>Sorry if that was too much.  Personally I am fairly new at this but I have 
>had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything.  If you need a 
>full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply.  Can you please 
>advise as to what can fix this.
>
>Thanks,
>Don

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A correction.....The error is still<br>
mkdir: build: File
exists<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><br>
This is while compiling libperl.<br>
When I looked at the file that I redirected the buildworld to it didn't
show.&nbsp; <br>
As a note I am running an stock install of freebsd 4.0 Release.&nbsp; I
cvsup'd several times (once before each buildworld)<br>
<br>
At 08:59 AM 8/2/00 -0400, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>I
have been trying to buildworld for about a week now.&nbsp; I was getting
a file exists error during libperl compile but after makeing clean and
deleting the /usr/obj I now get this<br>
<br>
********************************************************<br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier"><br>
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c -o
gv.o<br>
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o
toke.o<br>
*** Error code 1<br>
<br>
Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl.<br>
*** Error code 1<br>
<br>
Stop in /usr/src.<br>
*** Error code 1<br>
<br>
Stop in /usr/src.<br>
*** Error code 1<br>
<br>
Stop in /usr/src.<br>
</font>********************************************************<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Sorry if that was too much.&nbsp; Personally I am fairly new at this but
I have had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything.&nbsp; If
you need a full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply.&nbsp;
Can you please advise as to what can fix this.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Don<br>
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[ On Wednesday, August 2, Warner Losh wrote: ]
> : I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an
> : appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf:
> 
> Actually, make installkernel was fixed so that you don't need to do
> this.
> 

It was? Did I miss a "HEADS UP" somewhere along the line? I knew that this was
the behavior in -current and it was going to be "MFC"ed ``at some point'' but
when did it occur?

Seems like this would screw people like me who edited their /boot/loader.conf
file unless we change it back to look for /kernel.

Thanks for the notice ... I'll make sure to look at stuff and edit
/boot/loader.conf appropriately before I type "reboot" the next time :)

-Jr

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This happened for me also.
It is due to the date/time of the system set incorrectly.=20
Check you system date/time and correct it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Zombie [SMTP:zombie@isni.net]
> Sent:	Wednesday, August 02, 2000 1:48 PM
> To:	freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> Subject:	Re: BuildWorld Fails....Please Advise
>=20
> A correction.....The error is still
> mkdir: build: File exists=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> This is while compiling libperl.
> When I looked at the file that I redirected the buildworld to it =
didn't
> show.=A0=20
> As a note I am running an stock install of freebsd 4.0 Release.=A0 I =
cvsup'd
> several times (once before each buildworld)
>=20
> At 08:59 AM 8/2/00 -0400, you wrote:
>=20
>=20
> 	=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0I have been trying to buildworld for about a =
week now.=A0 I
> was getting a file exists error during libperl compile but after =
makeing
> clean and deleting the /usr/obj I now get this
> =09
> 	********************************************************
> =09
> 	cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl
> -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5
> -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c -o =
gv.o
> 	cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl
> -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5
> -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o
> toke.o
> 	*** Error code 1
> =09
> 	Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl.
> 	*** Error code 1
> =09
> 	Stop in /usr/src.
> 	*** Error code 1
> =09
> 	Stop in /usr/src.
> 	*** Error code 1
> =09
> 	Stop in /usr/src.
> 	********************************************************
> =09
> =09
> =09
> 	Sorry if that was too much.=A0 Personally I am fairly new at this =
but
> I have had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything.=A0 If =
you
> need a full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply.=A0 Can =
you
> please advise as to what can fix this.
> =09
> 	Thanks,
> 	Don
> =09
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I realize this may be slightly off-topic, but for the life of me, I
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At 05:38 PM 8/2/00 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
>/usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared (first use in 
>this function)
>/usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported 
>only once
>/usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.)
>*** Error code 1
>Cvsup started at 15:06 GMT didn't help as well. UT_NAMESIZE
>and MAXLOGNAME are patched to be 31 and 32 chars long but this never
>caused any problems so far. The config file was changed to include
>options    EXT2FS
>but reinstalling the backup of it I did before this change didn't change
>anything.

The fix has been committed by wpaul 2000/08/02 09:32:15 PDT

I was able to build without issue after the correction.

         ---Mike
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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
> :         <follow rebuild disk /dev entries above>        [1]
> : -->     reboot   <--
> :         <in single user>
[...]
> : This line should be "shutdown now", isn't it? Any further suggestions to
> : make life of Warner easier?
> 
> No.  It should be "reboot" since that's the simplest thing.  "shutdown
> now" doesn't cause the machine to reboot, but merely causes the
> processor to halt.  It is the same thing as "halt," unless you have
> users on the machine, in which case they will get a nice message
> before the machine dies....

Um, not in my experience.  Shutdown now shuts you down to single
user mode without rebooting, it does *not* do a halt.

I thought the 'reboot' was so that you were sure the new kernel
*would* boot before you did the installworld.  Even if the modules
changed you can back out of the installkernel relatively easily,
but it's a lot harder to back out of the installworld.

--RDM



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Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_output.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_subr.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_timer.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_usrreq.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/netinet/udp_usrreq.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_bio.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_node.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_nqlease.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_serv.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_socket.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_srvcache.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_subs.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_syscalls.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_vfsops.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_vnops.c
> cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c
> /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c: In function `dc_setcfg':
> /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared (first use in this function)
> /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.)
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ffnonwpboxes.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> 
> Cvsup started at 15:06 GMT didn't help as well. UT_NAMESIZE
> and MAXLOGNAME are patched to be 31 and 32 chars long but this never
> caused any problems so far. The config file was changed to include
> options    EXT2FS
> but reinstalling the backup of it I did before this change didn't change
> anything.
> 
> Best regards,
>  Gabriel

Fresh cvsup, same exact problem.

-Brandon


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Bryan Liesner wrote:
> 
> Todays commit to sys/pci/if_dc.c produces this error:
> 
> cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes
> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions
> -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include  -D_KERNEL
> -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  ../../pci/if_dc.c
> ../../pci/if_dc.c: In function `dc_setcfg':
> ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: `DC_WDOG_CTLWREN' undeclared
>  (first use in this function)
> ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.)
> *** Error code 1

Same problem, fresh cvsup.

-Brandon


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In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008021356270.26800-100000@twirl.bitdance.com> "R. David Murray" writes:
: On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
: > :         <follow rebuild disk /dev entries above>        [1]
: > : -->     reboot   <--
: > :         <in single user>
: [...]
: > : This line should be "shutdown now", isn't it? Any further suggestions to
: > : make life of Warner easier?
: > 
: > No.  It should be "reboot" since that's the simplest thing.  "shutdown
: > now" doesn't cause the machine to reboot, but merely causes the
: > processor to halt.  It is the same thing as "halt," unless you have
: > users on the machine, in which case they will get a nice message
: > before the machine dies....
: 
: Um, not in my experience.  Shutdown now shuts you down to single
: user mode without rebooting, it does *not* do a halt.

No.  shutdown now takes you all the way down to "hit any key to
reboot"  *AND* you want to reboot.

: I thought the 'reboot' was so that you were sure the new kernel
: *would* boot before you did the installworld.  Even if the modules
: changed you can back out of the installkernel relatively easily,
: but it's a lot harder to back out of the installworld.

Yes.  You want the new kernel before you reboot.  And the new
kernel makefiles install the modules.  The reboot is to run the new
kernel so that the binaries build will run.  I'm not 100% sure if this
is still required or not, given some of marcel's recent cross building
changes.

Warner





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At 02:05 PM 8/2/00 -0400, Brandon Fosdick wrote:
> > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.)
> > *** Error code 1
>
>Same problem, fresh cvsup.

What version do you have of if_dcreg.h ? It should be

  * $FreeBSD: src/sys/pci/if_dcreg.h,v 1.4.2.4 2000/08/02 16:32:13 wpaul Exp $

With this version I was able to build without the above error.

         ---Mike
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Warner Losh wrote:
> :
> : Um, not in my experience.  Shutdown now shuts you down to single
> : user mode without rebooting, it does *not* do a halt.
> 
> No.  shutdown now takes you all the way down to "hit any key to
> reboot"  *AND* you want to reboot.
> 

I thought that was 
shutdown -h now

I find that when I do shutdown now, it just gets me into single
user mode.

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On Wed 2000-08-02 (12:11), Warner Losh wrote:
> No.  shutdown now takes you all the way down to "hit any key to
> reboot"  *AND* you want to reboot.

'shutdown now' puts you (or at least me on my machines) into single user
mode.  'shutdown -h now' halts you, and 'shutdown -r now' reboots you.

> Yes.  You want the new kernel before you reboot.  And the new
> kernel makefiles install the modules.  The reboot is to run the new
> kernel so that the binaries build will run.  I'm not 100% sure if this
> is still required or not, given some of marcel's recent cross building
> changes.

Marcel's changes mean that you the tools you use to install the world
are ones that you can run with the old kernel.  However, once they're
installed, you may not be able to run the new binaries with the old
kernel.  In all, you "should" boot the kernel, and you "might" get away
with not doing it, but "you're on your own" if you mess up.

Neil
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And Warner Losh spoke:
> In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008021356270.26800-100000@twirl.bitdance.com> "R. David Murray" writes:
> : On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
> : > :         <follow rebuild disk /dev entries above>        [1]
> : > : -->     reboot   <--
> : > :         <in single user>
> : [...]
> : > : This line should be "shutdown now", isn't it? Any further suggestions to
> : > : make life of Warner easier?
> : > 
> : > No.  It should be "reboot" since that's the simplest thing.  "shutdown
> : > now" doesn't cause the machine to reboot, but merely causes the
> : > processor to halt.  It is the same thing as "halt," unless you have
> : > users on the machine, in which case they will get a nice message
> : > before the machine dies....
> : 
> : Um, not in my experience.  Shutdown now shuts you down to single
> : user mode without rebooting, it does *not* do a halt.
> 
> No.  shutdown now takes you all the way down to "hit any key to
> reboot"  *AND* you want to reboot.
 
That's wrong.  'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode.  'shutdown -r now'
will make it reboot.


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In message <20000802112415.A753@mammalia.org> R Joseph Wright writes:
: That's wrong.  'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode.  'shutdown -r now'
: will make it reboot.

That's changed since the last time I did shutdown then :-).  Of
course, that was 5 years ago or so...

In any event, reboot is right here because you want the new kernel.

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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Warner Losh wrote:

>No.  shutdown now takes you all the way down to "hit any key to
>reboot"  *AND* you want to reboot.

Umm, try it Warner.  Type "shutdown now" at a root prompt and you will
get:
Enter name of shell or hit return for /bin/sh:

The way you get "hit any key to reboot" is "shutdown -h now", the
semantical equivalent of "halt".

This is all of course moot since the reboot command does indeed belong
in updating for other reasons.

Brandon D. Valentine
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Mike Tancsa wrote:
> 
> At 02:05 PM 8/2/00 -0400, Brandon Fosdick wrote:
> > > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> > > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.)
> > > *** Error code 1
> >
> >Same problem, fresh cvsup.
> 
> What version do you have of if_dcreg.h ? It should be
> 
>   * $FreeBSD: src/sys/pci/if_dcreg.h,v 1.4.2.4 2000/08/02 16:32:13 wpaul Exp $
> 
> With this version I was able to build without the above error.

Fresher cvsup, now it works. :)

Thanks
-Brandon


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Plamen Petkov wrote:
> 
> >From all of this 'make a RELEASE' threath I realize the following:
> 
> 1. I cvsup-ed all the sources
> 
> 2. I made the world succesfully - i feel fine, i have a -STABLE FreeBSD,
> working just as expected, I am happy with my STABLE FreeBSD :-) etc..
> 
> 3. However I can not have it on a CD, just to have it on a safe place ?
> 
> Just imagine: some big crash and I have to start again from my last
> FreeBSD Release (currently 4.0-R on a CDROM I purchased from
> www.cdrom.com) step by step toward 'current' -STABLE ...

One thing to note is that there are daily snapshots available for FTP
installs from releng4.freebsd.org.
 
> Well, well, FreeBSD Core & Developer Team :-) I know, things like that
> happens and ... well, friend, yes, 'start again'... but... any workaround
> ?

You can build your own releases if you want to, but be forewarned that it
can easily take several hours, and require a good chunk of disk space.
You will need to cvsup the actual CVS repo, not just the checked-out source.
Also, read the comments at the top of the release Makefile.

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> : > :         <follow rebuild disk /dev entries above>        [1]
> : > : -->     reboot   <--
> : > :         <in single user>
> : [...]
> : > : This line should be "shutdown now", isn't it? Any further suggestions to
> : > : make life of Warner easier?
> : > 
> : > No.  It should be "reboot" since that's the simplest thing.  "shutdown
> : > now" doesn't cause the machine to reboot, but merely causes the
> : > processor to halt.  It is the same thing as "halt," unless you have
> : > users on the machine, in which case they will get a nice message
> : > before the machine dies....
> : 
> : Um, not in my experience.  Shutdown now shuts you down to single
> : user mode without rebooting, it does *not* do a halt.
> 
> No.  shutdown now takes you all the way down to "hit any key to
> reboot"  *AND* you want to reboot.

Warner, I think you are confused.  'shutdown now' takes you to single
user mode.  'halt' will take you to the above prompt.


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> : That's wrong.  'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode.  'shutdown -r now'
> : will make it reboot.
> 
> That's changed since the last time I did shutdown then :-).  Of
> course, that was 5 years ago or so...

It's been that way since 4.3BSD, at least.  Not sure which OS you were
using at the time, since it's been the same since 386BSD days. :)




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Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote:
> 
> obrien> However, today's buildworld is more resilent having better
> obrien> build-tools, etc.. targets than when release/Makefile was
> obrien> first written.  Maybe this need could be removed.  But this
> obrien> hasn't happened yet.
> 
> If I understand the facts of src/release/Makefile correctly, 
> 
> - First 'make installworld' under /usr/src is for "creating a chroot
>   environment for further release engineering." Maybe it can be
>   supercedesed by copying existing environment or just extracting
>   'bin' distribution. But there is no tool for this.

Yes, and just doing a make installworld is the easiest way to do this.

> - Second 'make buildworld' inside a chroot environment is the actual
>   build procedure. Obviously, it cannot remove :-)
> 
> - Second 'make installworld' inside a chroot environment is for
>   "creating an environment for further _actual_ release procedures."
>   Even though we have much much better procedures for build-tools,
>   _actual_ release procedures (release.[1-9], doc.?, cdrom.?, and
>   ftp.? target in src/release/Makefile) does not consider about
>   that. If these procedures requires newer version of toolchain, it
>   should be a release-breaker.

Well, it is similar to the reason we have build-tools, etc. in the
world.  We want to make sure that we have tools that match the release
Makefile we are using.  Also, it is a good test, since we need to make
sure that the sources can do an actual installworld before we ship them
out to people. :)

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Hmmm, show this to your linux buddies <g> 
http://www.rewls.nu/takeittux.jpg





Jason Kasper <j_dot_kasper@usa.net>
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        Subject:        Irda support

I realize this may be slightly off-topic, but for the life of me, I
can't find any reference anywhere
(google/altavista/deja.com/freebsd.org/etc.) that would indicate that
anybody is even looking at irda support for freebsd.  Are there any
plans to support irda in the freebsd kernel in the upcoming time-frame?

Far be it from me to encourage holy wars, but it gets tiring hearing the
linux-user crowd chortling over their kernel's ability to do irda when
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In message <200008021855.MAA23200@nomad.yogotech.com> Nate Williams writes:
: Warner, I think you are confused.  'shutdown now' takes you to single
: user mode.  'halt' will take you to the above prompt.

I was confused between shutdown now and shutdown -h now.

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In message <200008021856.MAA23214@nomad.yogotech.com> Nate Williams writes:
: > : That's wrong.  'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode.  'shutdown -r now'
: > : will make it reboot.
: > 
: > That's changed since the last time I did shutdown then :-).  Of
: > course, that was 5 years ago or so...
: 
: It's been that way since 4.3BSD, at least.  Not sure which OS you were
: using at the time, since it's been the same since 386BSD days. :)

SunOS (well, Solbourne's OS/MP), I think.  Of course, I might have
always typed -h and just spaced it.

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On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 17:40 -0400, Nader Turki wrote:
> 
> I just installed FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. Well, I got this new
> thing that's called IPv6 older versions of FreeBSD never asked
> me that before. Anyway I said YES and hope that's not gonna
> casue me any trouble. 'cause i have no idea what ipv6 is.

If you're curious about it try something like "man -k ipv6".  If
you don't know what _that_ means try "man man".  And get used to
make use of the locally available info, it will serve you faster
than waiting for others to hold your hands.  (You should already
know about this when using FreeBSD for a longer time.


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Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
> 
> Marcel's changes mean that you the tools you use to install the world
> are ones that you can run with the old kernel.  However, once they're
> installed, you may not be able to run the new binaries with the old
> kernel.  In all, you "should" boot the kernel, and you "might" get away
> with not doing it, but "you're on your own" if you mess up.

This is correct. The change allows us to have a single 'upgrade' target
that builds the world, builds the kernel, installs the kernel, installs
the world, perform various other upgrades and finally end with a reboot
(not necessarily in this exact order, although ending with a reboot
seems kind of mandatory :-)

The advantage of the change is also that it allows installworld to be
run with -j > 1. We now simply never run what we install and thus avoid
race conditions...

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> In message <200008021856.MAA23214@nomad.yogotech.com> Nate Williams writes:
> : > : That's wrong.  'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode.  'shutdow
> n -r now'
> : > : will make it reboot.
> : > 
> : > That's changed since the last time I did shutdown then :-).  Of
> : > course, that was 5 years ago or so...
> : 
> : It's been that way since 4.3BSD, at least.  Not sure which OS you were
> : using at the time, since it's been the same since 386BSD days. :)
> 
> SunOS (well, Solbourne's OS/MP), I think.  Of course, I might have
> always typed -h and just spaced it.

	SunOS had -h.  Shutdown has behaved basically the same since
	I started working w/ BSD systems in 1983 (BSD 4.2).

	Mark
> 
> Warner
> 
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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, [gill] wrote:

> check ps -ax to make sure the daemon is up

They are (syslogd and sshd).

> run the daemon  /usr/local/sbin/sshd -d and watch the debug info
> run the client ssh -v for verbose

I'll try this and play around a little more tonight.

> are you running 4.0-RELEASE, 4.1-RELEASE, or -STABLE?  

Stable.

Oh, and for anyone else who wonders (already received a few helpful emails
;), yes I did HUP the daemons after making configuration changes.

Thanks.

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On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:49:12AM -0700, John Reynolds~ wrote:
> 
> [ On Wednesday, August 2, Warner Losh wrote: ]
> > : I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an
> > : appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf:
> > 
> > Actually, make installkernel was fixed so that you don't need to do
> > this.
> > 
> 
> It was? Did I miss a "HEADS UP" somewhere along the line? I knew that this was
> the behavior in -current and it was going to be "MFC"ed ``at some point'' but
> when did it occur?
> 
> Seems like this would screw people like me who edited their /boot/loader.conf
> file unless we change it back to look for /kernel.
> 
> Thanks for the notice ... I'll make sure to look at stuff and edit
> /boot/loader.conf appropriately before I type "reboot" the next time :)
> 

If you add

makeoptions	KERNEL=kernel		#Build kernel "foo" and install "/foo"

to your kernel config file it will install it as /kernel without this
change; and back up your old one as /kernel.old. I would expect this
line in the config file will be harmless (albeit redundant) when the
change is MFC'd so you won't have to edit /boot/loader.conf.

HTH
 
> -Jr
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hi there,
i recently tried to install an 4.1-REL (2 Floppies) on an dual i386 SCSI
HD 1/2 gig RAM over FTP and chose the expert mode or whatever it is called
again in the Installation-Menu. However everything went just fine, but
after a reboot the bootloader just couldn't find a kernel to boot. I
repeated the procedure 2 more times thereafter but the result remained the
same, is there something i should know about installing via FTP ? :-))
or perhaps something has changed on the installation disks ?

oh fun facts:
annoyed by that unexpected denial of service i chose to install OpenBSD
instead and , believe it or not, just came to the point to check its dmesg
just to realize that it doesnt support SMP yet :(( :))

yours kinda sincerely,
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> : comment out the PARANOID line in /etc/hosts.allow?
> : 	#ALL : PARANOID : RFC931 20 : deny
> Yes.  This PARANOID option is really quite silly since RFC 931 is
> useless outside of your own administrative domain and off dubious
> value inside it.  Best to leave it commented out.
> Warner

The RFC931 part may be silly, but the PARANOID part keeps out any ip
address that does not reverse DNS to a name.  We find that useful.

  - Tim



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Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:49:12AM -0700, John Reynolds~ wrote:
> >
> > [ On Wednesday, August 2, Warner Losh wrote: ]
> > > : I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an
> > > : appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf:
> > >
> > > Actually, make installkernel was fixed so that you don't need to do
> > > this.
> > >
> >
> > It was? Did I miss a "HEADS UP" somewhere along the line? I knew that this was
> > the behavior in -current and it was going to be "MFC"ed ``at some point'' but
> > when did it occur?
> >
> > Seems like this would screw people like me who edited their /boot/loader.conf
> > file unless we change it back to look for /kernel.
> >
> > Thanks for the notice ... I'll make sure to look at stuff and edit
> > /boot/loader.conf appropriately before I type "reboot" the next time :)
> >
> 
> If you add
> 
> makeoptions     KERNEL=kernel           #Build kernel "foo" and install "/foo"
> 
> to your kernel config file it will install it as /kernel without this
> change; and back up your old one as /kernel.old. I would expect this
> line in the config file will be harmless (albeit redundant) when the
> change is MFC'd so you won't have to edit /boot/loader.conf.

I have to make a point here and that is I like the current
arrangement. I would much rather have installkernel make a file called
MYKERNEL than have it make all kernel's as "kernel". I think that as
we follow Stable or Current, we need to create a GENERIC that goes
along with them. When you don't have a clue, boot GENERIC. It may not
solve anything but it is a data point. I don't like having all of my
kernels called kernel because of this. I would much rather mv RUBY to
kernel than mv kernel to kernel.GENERIC or GENERIC and
re-installkernel for RUBY. I follow upgrades with my general setup and
only at significant places do I create a GENERIC. I have a shell
script that moves RUBY, for example, to kernel and I don't touch
GENERIC.

Kent

> 
> HTH
> 
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In message <Pine.GSO.4.21.0008021727560.16851-100000@nova.fnal.gov> Tim Zingelman writes:
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: > : 	#ALL : PARANOID : RFC931 20 : deny
: The RFC931 part may be silly, but the PARANOID part keeps out any ip
: address that does not reverse DNS to a name.  We find that useful.

Ah.  You are right.  I'd forgotten about that.

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> =

> Hey guys,
> =

> 	I've been using freebsd for a while now but
> 	i'm having problems with Raid card. I got a
> 	AcceleRAID 250 runing under FreeBSD 4.1. I
> 	called mylex and them told me to make my
> 	drives "Hot Swap in real time" i have to install
> 	the GAM program. But they don't provide it.

This isn't strictly correct.

If you have a managed enclosure, hot-swap and automatic rebuild is =

managed entirely by the adapter.

If you have a 'dumb' enclosure, use the mlxcontrol(8) utility to perform =

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I have been using it now and it seems the problems have been fixed.

Richard Tobin had the audacity to say:
> 
> A few months ago there were a lot of messages about disk corruption
> when using DMA with some (?) VIA ATA chipsets.  Is this fixed in 4.1?
> 
> -- Richard
> 
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For example, the qmail package also creates a sendmail binary.

Dominic Mitchell had the audacity to say:
> On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 09:16:46PM -0700, Crist J . Clark wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 02:03:57PM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote:
> > > My point is that there is a perfectly good mechinism in existance to allow
> > > switching between MTA.  The rc.conf mechinism works well and is consistant
> > > for all other components of the system.  In this one case we add a layer of
> > > indirection below rc.conf.
> > > Why not simply use something like
> > > 
> > >     mta_enable="YES"
> > >     mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail
> > > or
> > >     mta_ena
> > >     mta=/usr/sbin/qmail
> > > 
> > > and the appropriate frag in /etc/rc to work with this
> > > I find the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem ;-)
> > 
> > But that will only affect the MTA listening for relays. It will not
> > change what executable a program trying to send mail on the local
> > machine will exec to send mail... Unless now everything that sends
> > mail has to source rc.conf first. Yuck.
> 
> Precisely.  Like it or not, /usr/sbin/sendmail has become an interface
> to sending mail and is *not* exclusive to sendmail.
> 
> -Dom (Paid up member of the Sendmail Must Die club)
> 
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I have been installling GTK on a variety of machines
and I have run across a dependancy which was skipped
on the port of gnomecc(gnome control panel).  The
libpixmap.so library is required for some themes which
gtk uses but libpixmap.so is part of the gtk-engines
port, which is not a dependancy.  The lack of that
library causes buttons/option boxes/check boxes to not
change along with the theme. This has happened
numerous times to me. This happened on
5.0-current-?????? (the cd archive from may i believe)
4.0-release, and 4.1-release.  If i'm an idiot, wrong,
or right.  Let know if any of you can confirm this.

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I was encouraged to track the stable group.  Im running cvsup right now on 
my box (that was pretty easy), so what is the general consensus on 
upgrading 4.1R to 4.1S.  This is my first time.  Thanks.

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Most of the folks on this list would (I hope) point you to the
documentation that describes how to track -STABLE.  You'll find this in
the FreeBSD Handbook at http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook.

Be sure to follow the discussions on this list, and since you're just
staring, review some of the more recently archived messages.

Remember that people have a tendancy to help those that help themselves
(as much as possible).

Cheers,
Bryan

On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Bigwillie wrote:

> I was encouraged to track the stable group.  Im running cvsup right now on 
> my box (that was pretty easy), so what is the general consensus on 
> upgrading 4.1R to 4.1S.  This is my first time.  Thanks.
> 
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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Mike Tancsa wrote:

>At 02:05 PM 8/2/00 -0400, Brandon Fosdick wrote:
>> > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
>> > ../../pci/if_dc.c:1224: for each function it appears in.)
>> > *** Error code 1
>>
>>Same problem, fresh cvsup.
>
>What version do you have of if_dcreg.h ? It should be
>
>  * $FreeBSD: src/sys/pci/if_dcreg.h,v 1.4.2.4 2000/08/02 16:32:13 wpaul Exp $
>
>With this version I was able to build without the above error.

Well, yesterday, 8/1/2000, if_dc.c was committed without if_dcreg.h,
committed on 8/2/2000. 

They should have been committed together, and I'm sure it was just an
oversight. 



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On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> "H . S . YOON" <tsoi@xocah.dhs.org> writes:
> 
> > Buildworld was successful with no error. But 'make installkernel' fail and 
> > 'make install in /usr/src/sys/modules' fail, too.
> > 
> > Whe installkernel,
> > 
> > "
> > xocah# make installkernel KERNEL=XOCAH
> > cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XOCAH;  MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj  COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin  LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib  OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec  PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503 MACHINE=i386 KERNEL=XOCAH  make install
> > cd: can't cd to /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XOCAH
> > *** Error code 2
> 
> This looks remarkably like you forgot the "make buildkernel" step.
> You mentioned that step in your cookbook at the front of your message,
> but it's not described here; and since that's the part which should
> create the missing directory, I think that's the part you forgot.


yeah, but the other one:

# make install
===> accf_data
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555    accf_data.ko /modules
install: accf_data.ko: No such file or directory
*** Error code 71

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.

which I also get in the modules "make install".  Because I followed the
instructions step by step, I never get past this.  This is like my seventh
try with my third cvsup...

any thoughts on what that might be?  it isn't forgetting "make buildkernel",
or anything in updating, I've traced the steps over and over..

Is this error looking familiar to anyone?  Can anybody point out what this 
error might mean ( aside from missing files... there are clearly missing files,
but following updating isn't building them either... )?

> 
> There were some bogosities in the cookbook (notably building the new
> devices in the /usr/src tree, where they won't help at all), but
> that's further along than you had gotten so far.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Tim Zingelman wrote:

> The RFC931 part may be silly, but the PARANOID part keeps out any ip

RFC931 isn't always silly. _You_ may not be able to trust the results but
the site you complain to may be glad of the info if they know they can
trust their ident server.

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[I've cc'd the person who, if I'm seeing correctly, has most recently
 changed this part of Makefile.inc1 in -CURRENT.  Since this keeps
 coming up here, and we need -CURRENT to DTRT so we can then get a
 MFC to make us happy here in -STABLE]

> > > [ mv /kernel /kernel.old && mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel ]
> > > > Actually, make installkernel was fixed so that you don't need to do
> > > > this. [ONLY fixed in -CURRENT NOT in -STABLE]

> > makeoptions     KERNEL=kernel           #Build kernel "foo" and install "/foo"
> > to your kernel config file it will install it as /kernel without this
> > change; and back up your old one as /kernel.old. I would expect this

> I have to make a point here and that is I like the current
> arrangement. I would much rather have installkernel make a file called
> MYKERNEL than have it make all kernel's as "kernel"....

Historically the generic kernel has been named /kernel.GENERIC, not
/GENERIC.  If you add 'makeoptions     KERNEL=kernel.GENERIC' to the
GENERIC config file, and 'makeoptions     KERNEL=kernel' to your custom
kernel config file, you get "close" to an answer...

IMHO the 'right thing' to do is something like this:

 Allow KERNEL to specify a list of config files (so one can define
 KERNEL="MYCUSTOM GENERIC" for instance).

 Have the 'make buildkernel' target build the first one in the list with
 KERNEL=kernel, and all the others with KERNEL=kernel.NAME.  (in my above
 example, MYCUSTOM would get built as kernel and GENERIC would get built
 as kernel.GENERIC.

 Have the 'make installkernel' target install the first one in the KERNEL
 list with KERNEL=kernel, and all the others with KERNEL=kernel.NAME.
 (again my example would install MYCUSTOM in /kernel and GENERIC in
 /kernel.GENERIC.

It would be nice if in this whole process the modules only got built once,
and the pre-existing /kernel got preserved as /kernel.old.  Though I think
that all works ok already.

Here is a patch against Makefile.inc1 from -STABLE, but IT DOES NOT WORK!!  
Can someone explain to me what I'm doing wrong?  make says:

"/usr/src/Makefile.inc1", line 1: Malformed conditional (CUSTOM == ${INSTALLKERNEL})

That's a 'make buildkernel' with 'KERNEL=CUSTOM GENERIC' in /etc/make.conf

Thanks,

  - Tim

Index: Makefile.inc1
===================================================================
RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/Makefile.inc1,v
retrieving revision 1.141.2.4
diff -c -r1.141.2.4 Makefile.inc1
*** Makefile.inc1	2000/06/17 03:43:06	1.141.2.4
--- Makefile.inc1	2000/08/03 01:00:06
***************
*** 330,337 ****
  # Which kernels to build and/or install is specified by setting
  # KERNEL. If not defined a GENERIC kernel is built/installed.
  # Only the existing (depending MACHINE) config files are used
! # for building kernels and only the first of these is designated
! # as the one being installed.
  #
  # Note that we have to use MACHINE instead of MACHINE_ARCH when
  # we're in kernel-land. Since only MACHINE_ARCH is (expected) to
--- 330,339 ----
  # Which kernels to build and/or install is specified by setting
  # KERNEL. If not defined a GENERIC kernel is built/installed.
  # Only the existing (depending MACHINE) config files are used
! # for building kernels.  The first is installed as /kernel, the
! # remaining are installed as /kernel.NAME.  So setting
! # KERNEL= CUSTOM GENERIC will result in your CUSTOM kernel installed
! # as /kernel and GENERIC installed as /kernel.GENERIC
  #
  # Note that we have to use MACHINE instead of MACHINE_ARCH when
  # we're in kernel-land. Since only MACHINE_ARCH is (expected) to
***************
*** 361,367 ****
  .if exists(${KRNLCONFDIR}/${_kernel})
  BUILDKERNELS+=	${_kernel}
  .if empty(INSTALLKERNEL)
! INSTALLKERNEL= ${_kernel}
  .endif
  .endif
  .endfor
--- 363,369 ----
  .if exists(${KRNLCONFDIR}/${_kernel})
  BUILDKERNELS+=	${_kernel}
  .if empty(INSTALLKERNEL)
! INSTALLKERNEL=	${_kernel}
  .endif
  .endif
  .endfor
***************
*** 377,383 ****
  	@echo ">>> Rebuilding kernel(s)"
  	@echo "--------------------------------------------------------------"
  .for _kernel in ${BUILDKERNELS}
! 	@echo "===> ${_kernel}"
  	mkdir -p ${KRNLOBJDIR}
  	cd ${KRNLCONFDIR}; \
  		PATH=${TMPPATH} \
--- 379,390 ----
  	@echo ">>> Rebuilding kernel(s)"
  	@echo "--------------------------------------------------------------"
  .for _kernel in ${BUILDKERNELS}
! .if ${_kernel} == ${INSTALLKERNEL}
! KERNELNAME=	kernel
! .else
! KERNELNAME=	kernel.${_kernel}
! .endif
! 	@echo "===> ${KERNELNAME}"
  	mkdir -p ${KRNLOBJDIR}
  	cd ${KRNLCONFDIR}; \
  		PATH=${TMPPATH} \
***************
*** 385,405 ****
  	cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${_kernel}; \
  		MAKESRCPATH=${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx \
  		    ${MAKE} -f ${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx/Makefile; \
! 		${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${_kernel} \
  		    ${MAKE} depend; \
! 		${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${_kernel} ${MAKE} all
  .endfor
  
  #
  # installkernel
  #
! # Install the kernel defined by INSTALLKERNEL
  #
  installkernel:
  	cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${INSTALLKERNEL}; \
! 		${IMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${INSTALLKERNEL} \
  		    ${MAKE} install
! 
  #
  # update
  #
--- 392,420 ----
  	cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${_kernel}; \
  		MAKESRCPATH=${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx \
  		    ${MAKE} -f ${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx/Makefile; \
! 		${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${KERNELNAME} \
  		    ${MAKE} depend; \
! 		${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${KERNELNAME} ${MAKE} all
  .endfor
  
  #
  # installkernel
  #
! # Install the kernel defined by INSTALLKERNEL as /kernel,
! # Install all others as kernel.NAME
  #
  installkernel:
+ .for _kernel in ${BUILDKERNELS}
+ .if ${_kernel} == ${INSTALLKERNEL}
+ KERNELNAME=	kernel
+ .else
+ KERNELNAME=	kernel.${_kernel}
+ .endif
+ 	@echo "===> ${KERNELNAME}"
  	cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${INSTALLKERNEL}; \
! 		${IMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${KERNELNAME} \
  		    ${MAKE} install
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  # update
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Well according to /usr/src/UPDATING I should be using the build kernel 
method.  That is where Im at right now, hopefully all stages should go 
through smoothly.  Ill report how things go.

At 08:41 PM 8/2/00 , you wrote:

>Most of the folks on this list would (I hope) point you to the
>documentation that describes how to track -STABLE.  You'll find this in
>the FreeBSD Handbook at http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook.
>
>Be sure to follow the discussions on this list, and since you're just
>staring, review some of the more recently archived messages.
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>Remember that people have a tendancy to help those that help themselves
>(as much as possible).
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>Cheers,
>Bryan
>
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> > I was encouraged to track the stable group.  Im running cvsup right now on
> > my box (that was pretty easy), so what is the general consensus on
> > upgrading 4.1R to 4.1S.  This is my first time.  Thanks.
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On 02-Aug-00 Jason Kasper wrote:
>  I realize this may be slightly off-topic, but for the life of me, I
>  can't find any reference anywhere
>  (google/altavista/deja.com/freebsd.org/etc.) that would indicate that
>  anybody is even looking at irda support for freebsd.  Are there any
>  plans to support irda in the freebsd kernel in the upcoming time-frame?

A guy called Benno Rice working on IrDA at the moment..

Last I talked to him he said he is going to get the code to a point where it
can do an IrCOMM connection and then release the source code..

>  Far be it from me to encourage holy wars, but it gets tiring hearing the
>  linux-user crowd chortling over their kernel's ability to do irda when
>  mine can't.  

<shrugs> There are plenty of things FreeBSD does better :)

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such an attention-getting subject, i should write for weekly world news.

check out these two entries from /etc/master.passwd :

gill:0BI5r7TYic5NI:1001:1001::0:0:gill:/home/gill:/bin/tcsh
nill:$1$ZdxdtsZc$gayCmDvdyPyNknWKTOCQL.:1002:1002::0:0:nill:/home/nill:/bin/tcsh

they have the same password, but second encrypted one is totally
different.  the uid 1001 was created yesterday immediately after the
4.1-RELEASE install.  the uid 1002 was created after the following steps
were taken.  is there some change in the hash used for passwords between
4.1-R and 4.1-S?

I figured this out when I first couldn't get into my box at _all_ and on
subsequent attempts couldn't su root and/or login via telnet/ssh.

I have done this now three times with great precision:

step 1) install 4.1-RELEASE via FTP with floppies imaged 7/30
	-minimal install with: bin, basic crypto, manpages, base /usr/src,
	/usr/src/sys
step 2) install cvsup-bin & screen from ports
	-CVSup client, GUI version Software version: REL_16_1
	-Screen version 3.09.05 (FAU) 1-Sep-99
step 3) copy my 4x-STABLE supfile and Makefile into /root/cvs/
	-http://www.freebsddiary.org/samples/makefile.for.build.world
	-http://www.topsecret.net/gill/INDIAN_4.0-STABLE-supfile
	note here:  i've declined kerberos*, games, and take cvs-crypto
step 4) make update, make build, make install, make kernel
	note here: i got the same problem as described in
	http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/x/152/50/4130003/
	and i am currently starting again with make update as I noticed
	http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/x/152/25/4130959/ said it was
	fixed.

any light shed on this is most appreciated!

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> I realize this may be slightly off-topic, but for the life of me, I
> can't find any reference anywhere
> (google/altavista/deja.com/freebsd.org/etc.) that would indicate that
> anybody is even looking at irda support for freebsd.  Are there any
> plans to support irda in the freebsd kernel in the upcoming time-frame?

There's really never been much interest in it, to be honest.  If it's
something that's interesting to you, I suggest doing a reference
implementation and seeing if you can get anyone else fired up about
it.  I have to wonder what the linux-user crowd is so busy chortling
about, myself.  I've never had the slightest use for IRDA - maybe
if they built laptops with IRDA ports on each side so that you could
actually share data with the laptop next to you on the plane...

- Jordan


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I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem.
Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I remember some of
the early marketing hype there with people swapping IR business cards - I
don't think I've ever seen anyone do that and I don't think I could figure
out how in any reasonable amount of time with mine - it'd be quicker to
scribble on a napkin.

Same with my laptop, it was configured as com2 and as far as I was concerned
just taking up IRQ space - I turned it off when I put FBSD on there.
Doesn't mean you should play with it, but what are you going to *use* it
for?

Hank

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jordan K. Hubbard
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:59 PM
> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
> Cc: Jason Kasper
> Subject: Re: Irda support
>
>
> > I realize this may be slightly off-topic, but for the life of me, I
> > can't find any reference anywhere
> > (google/altavista/deja.com/freebsd.org/etc.) that would indicate that
> > anybody is even looking at irda support for freebsd.  Are there any
> > plans to support irda in the freebsd kernel in the upcoming time-frame?
>
> There's really never been much interest in it, to be honest.  If it's
> something that's interesting to you, I suggest doing a reference
> implementation and seeing if you can get anyone else fired up about
> it.  I have to wonder what the linux-user crowd is so busy chortling
> about, myself.  I've never had the slightest use for IRDA - maybe
> if they built laptops with IRDA ports on each side so that you could
> actually share data with the laptop next to you on the plane...
>
> - Jordan
>
>
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> i recently tried to install an 4.1-REL (2 Floppies) on an dual i386 SCSI

A dual i386 box?  This would be the first time I'd heard of anything
like that.  Is it some homebrew horror?

> HD 1/2 gig RAM over FTP and chose the expert mode or whatever it is called
> again in the Installation-Menu. However everything went just fine, but

Do you have multiple SCSI drives installed?  Did you install to the first
drive or to another drive?  It's impossible to diagnose your problem
without knowing more, and your hardware already sounds weird.

- Jordan


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On 03-Aug-00 Henry F. Marquardt wrote:
>  I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem.
>  Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I remember some of
>  the early marketing hype there with people swapping IR business cards - I
>  don't think I've ever seen anyone do that and I don't think I could figure
>  out how in any reasonable amount of time with mine - it'd be quicker to
>  scribble on a napkin.

Or give them a real business card..

Still, hotsync'ing via IR is neat :)

Also, IR to a mobile is nice for making data calls..

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Is there any documentation on the correct syntax or other related magic
to use when doing an rdump between two FreeBSD machines?  The manpage
for rdump is the same as for dump, but the details about rdumping are
left out of it.  I've dug on the web site, the handbook, the book, asked
my wife to no avail.  Can anyone loan me a clue as to what hidden BSD
trick I'm missing?

I've tried:

dumphost# dump foo:/file/system /dev/nrsa0

..but nothing seems to happen, and yes, I've got dumphost in foo's
/etc/hosts.equiv.

I have a feeling its got something to do with root on dumphost accessing
foo and some security concern that keeps it from happening, but I can't
figure it out.

Even better, is there a recipe for doing it with ssh?  Would love that.
But I'd like to know how to do it the simple (if insecure) way, too.

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On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:42:54PM -0400, Gill wrote:
> 
> such an attention-getting subject, i should write for weekly world news.

You're a moron and I didn't even read the e-mail past this line.

How's that for an attention-getting subject.

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> dumphost# dump foo:/file/system /dev/nrsa0

No it works the other way - rdump dumps local filesystems to remote tapes.  
You need
	foo# rdump /file/system dumphost:/dev/nrsa0
and foo must be in dumphost's ~root/.rhosts file.



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On 03-Aug-00 Shawn Barnhart wrote:
>  Even better, is there a recipe for doing it with ssh?  Would love that.
>  But I'd like to know how to do it the simple (if insecure) way, too.

Try..
ssh -enone root@remote.host.to.dump "dump -0af - /" | dd of=/dev/nrsa0 bs=16k

Or
dump -0af - | ssh -enone root@remote.host.with.tape "dd of=/dev/nrsa0 bs=16k"

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Bond" <gnb@itga.com.au>
To: "Shawn Barnhart" <swb@grasslake.net>

| > dumphost# dump foo:/file/system /dev/nrsa0
|
| No it works the other way - rdump dumps local filesystems to remote
tapes.
| You need
| foo# rdump /file/system dumphost:/dev/nrsa0
| and foo must be in dumphost's ~root/.rhosts file.

Thanks, although that's less useful than I thought it might be.  How
might you know that the tape drive isn't being used locally?

Why was it implemented that way?  Does this date back from the days of
starch-shirted PFYs doing the backup interactively?  It seems like it'd
be simpler to have dumphost grab the other host's filesystem remotely.




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> Why was it implemented that way?  

Because dump needs to seek() all over the raw disk device, but only writes to
the tape sequentially.




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i apologize.  perhaps after three full installs with careful detailing of
the steps and continually getting locked out of every account on the
system i too had lost my sense of humor.  fine, but read three lines down
(into the crypted passwords cut from the /etc/master.passwd) and you would
have picked up the wry and clever pun.

Thank you to the helpful and quick replies, especially the one that picked
up on my knuckleheadedness  ... not setting USA_RESIDENT="YES".  Thanks,
John.

again, my apologies if i have offended anyone.  I will stay more on-topic
in the future.

--gill

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Don't forget to do something in the unlikely event that KERNEL=old

Tim Zingelman had the audacity to say:
> [I've cc'd the person who, if I'm seeing correctly, has most recently
>  changed this part of Makefile.inc1 in -CURRENT.  Since this keeps
>  coming up here, and we need -CURRENT to DTRT so we can then get a
>  MFC to make us happy here in -STABLE]
> 
> > > > [ mv /kernel /kernel.old && mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel ]
> > > > > Actually, make installkernel was fixed so that you don't need to do
> > > > > this. [ONLY fixed in -CURRENT NOT in -STABLE]
> 
> > > makeoptions     KERNEL=kernel           #Build kernel "foo" and install "/foo"
> > > to your kernel config file it will install it as /kernel without this
> > > change; and back up your old one as /kernel.old. I would expect this
> 
> > I have to make a point here and that is I like the current
> > arrangement. I would much rather have installkernel make a file called
> > MYKERNEL than have it make all kernel's as "kernel"....
> 
> Historically the generic kernel has been named /kernel.GENERIC, not
> /GENERIC.  If you add 'makeoptions     KERNEL=kernel.GENERIC' to the
> GENERIC config file, and 'makeoptions     KERNEL=kernel' to your custom
> kernel config file, you get "close" to an answer...
> 
> IMHO the 'right thing' to do is something like this:
> 
>  Allow KERNEL to specify a list of config files (so one can define
>  KERNEL="MYCUSTOM GENERIC" for instance).
> 
>  Have the 'make buildkernel' target build the first one in the list with
>  KERNEL=kernel, and all the others with KERNEL=kernel.NAME.  (in my above
>  example, MYCUSTOM would get built as kernel and GENERIC would get built
>  as kernel.GENERIC.
> 
>  Have the 'make installkernel' target install the first one in the KERNEL
>  list with KERNEL=kernel, and all the others with KERNEL=kernel.NAME.
>  (again my example would install MYCUSTOM in /kernel and GENERIC in
>  /kernel.GENERIC.
> 
> It would be nice if in this whole process the modules only got built once,
> and the pre-existing /kernel got preserved as /kernel.old.  Though I think
> that all works ok already.
> 
> Here is a patch against Makefile.inc1 from -STABLE, but IT DOES NOT WORK!!  
> Can someone explain to me what I'm doing wrong?  make says:
> 
> "/usr/src/Makefile.inc1", line 1: Malformed conditional (CUSTOM == ${INSTALLKERNEL})
> 
> That's a 'make buildkernel' with 'KERNEL=CUSTOM GENERIC' in /etc/make.conf
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>   - Tim
> 
> Index: Makefile.inc1
> ===================================================================
> RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/Makefile.inc1,v
> retrieving revision 1.141.2.4
> diff -c -r1.141.2.4 Makefile.inc1
> *** Makefile.inc1	2000/06/17 03:43:06	1.141.2.4
> --- Makefile.inc1	2000/08/03 01:00:06
> ***************
> *** 330,337 ****
>   # Which kernels to build and/or install is specified by setting
>   # KERNEL. If not defined a GENERIC kernel is built/installed.
>   # Only the existing (depending MACHINE) config files are used
> ! # for building kernels and only the first of these is designated
> ! # as the one being installed.
>   #
>   # Note that we have to use MACHINE instead of MACHINE_ARCH when
>   # we're in kernel-land. Since only MACHINE_ARCH is (expected) to
> --- 330,339 ----
>   # Which kernels to build and/or install is specified by setting
>   # KERNEL. If not defined a GENERIC kernel is built/installed.
>   # Only the existing (depending MACHINE) config files are used
> ! # for building kernels.  The first is installed as /kernel, the
> ! # remaining are installed as /kernel.NAME.  So setting
> ! # KERNEL= CUSTOM GENERIC will result in your CUSTOM kernel installed
> ! # as /kernel and GENERIC installed as /kernel.GENERIC
>   #
>   # Note that we have to use MACHINE instead of MACHINE_ARCH when
>   # we're in kernel-land. Since only MACHINE_ARCH is (expected) to
> ***************
> *** 361,367 ****
>   .if exists(${KRNLCONFDIR}/${_kernel})
>   BUILDKERNELS+=	${_kernel}
>   .if empty(INSTALLKERNEL)
> ! INSTALLKERNEL= ${_kernel}
>   .endif
>   .endif
>   .endfor
> --- 363,369 ----
>   .if exists(${KRNLCONFDIR}/${_kernel})
>   BUILDKERNELS+=	${_kernel}
>   .if empty(INSTALLKERNEL)
> ! INSTALLKERNEL=	${_kernel}
>   .endif
>   .endif
>   .endfor
> ***************
> *** 377,383 ****
>   	@echo ">>> Rebuilding kernel(s)"
>   	@echo "--------------------------------------------------------------"
>   .for _kernel in ${BUILDKERNELS}
> ! 	@echo "===> ${_kernel}"
>   	mkdir -p ${KRNLOBJDIR}
>   	cd ${KRNLCONFDIR}; \
>   		PATH=${TMPPATH} \
> --- 379,390 ----
>   	@echo ">>> Rebuilding kernel(s)"
>   	@echo "--------------------------------------------------------------"
>   .for _kernel in ${BUILDKERNELS}
> ! .if ${_kernel} == ${INSTALLKERNEL}
> ! KERNELNAME=	kernel
> ! .else
> ! KERNELNAME=	kernel.${_kernel}
> ! .endif
> ! 	@echo "===> ${KERNELNAME}"
>   	mkdir -p ${KRNLOBJDIR}
>   	cd ${KRNLCONFDIR}; \
>   		PATH=${TMPPATH} \
> ***************
> *** 385,405 ****
>   	cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${_kernel}; \
>   		MAKESRCPATH=${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx \
>   		    ${MAKE} -f ${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx/Makefile; \
> ! 		${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${_kernel} \
>   		    ${MAKE} depend; \
> ! 		${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${_kernel} ${MAKE} all
>   .endfor
>   
>   #
>   # installkernel
>   #
> ! # Install the kernel defined by INSTALLKERNEL
>   #
>   installkernel:
>   	cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${INSTALLKERNEL}; \
> ! 		${IMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${INSTALLKERNEL} \
>   		    ${MAKE} install
> ! 
>   #
>   # update
>   #
> --- 392,420 ----
>   	cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${_kernel}; \
>   		MAKESRCPATH=${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx \
>   		    ${MAKE} -f ${KRNLSRCDIR}/dev/aic7xxx/Makefile; \
> ! 		${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${KERNELNAME} \
>   		    ${MAKE} depend; \
> ! 		${WMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${KERNELNAME} ${MAKE} all
>   .endfor
>   
>   #
>   # installkernel
>   #
> ! # Install the kernel defined by INSTALLKERNEL as /kernel,
> ! # Install all others as kernel.NAME
>   #
>   installkernel:
> + .for _kernel in ${BUILDKERNELS}
> + .if ${_kernel} == ${INSTALLKERNEL}
> + KERNELNAME=	kernel
> + .else
> + KERNELNAME=	kernel.${_kernel}
> + .endif
> + 	@echo "===> ${KERNELNAME}"
>   	cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${INSTALLKERNEL}; \
> ! 		${IMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${KERNELNAME} \
>   		    ${MAKE} install
> ! .endfor
>   #
>   # update
>   #
> 
> 
> 
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In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008031058360.65977-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> andrew@ugh.net.au writes:
: 
: 
: On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Tim Zingelman wrote:
: 
: > The RFC931 part may be silly, but the PARANOID part keeps out any ip
: 
: RFC931 isn't always silly. _You_ may not be able to trust the results but
: the site you complain to may be glad of the info if they know they can
: trust their ident server.

Assuming that the response wasn't forged, that an intruder didn't
tamper with the authd on the remote site or that the logs on the local 
site weren't altered, then yes, I suppose that you might be able to
get some utility out of it. :-)

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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Gill wrote:

> such an attention-getting subject, i should write for weekly world news.

I concur. You are a moron. I did get a little bit deeper into your
message, however.

To answer your question.

Add three users all with the same password. You will see that the shadow
password is different for all three. (If memory serves) There is something
in that whole crypto deal called salt. (If memory serves) The details are
up to you.

Perhaps when you wrote that you thought you were being clever. I doubt
any list in BSD land would enjoy that humor. -stable stays pretty serious.
Please refrain from such cleverness in the future.

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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Bigwillie wrote:

> Well according to /usr/src/UPDATING I should be using the build kernel 
> method.  That is where Im at right now, hopefully all stages should go 
> through smoothly.  Ill report how things go.

That is good. But puhlease read in the handbook about making world and all
that good stuff. UPDATING is a "up to the minute" (sic) document. You
still need everything in the handbook.

Notably, buildkernel does nat upgrade the entire system. From you message,
I would guess you are missing some BIG steps.

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In message <Pine.SOL.3.96.1000802223043.12470C-100000@utah>, "Jason C. Wells" w
rote:
} On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Gill wrote:
} 
} > such an attention-getting subject, i should write for weekly world news.
} 
} I concur. You are a moron. I did get a little bit deeper into your
} message, however.
} 
} To answer your question.
} 
} Add three users all with the same password. You will see that the shadow
} password is different for all three. (If memory serves) There is something
} in that whole crypto deal called salt. (If memory serves) The details are
} up to you.

I think what he was trying to express was that one password was a DES
password, and the other was an MD5 one.

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>gill:0BI5r7TYic5NI:1001:1001::0:0:gill:/home/gill:/bin/tcsh
>nill:$1$ZdxdtsZc$gayCmDvdyPyNknWKTOCQL.:1002:1002::0:0:nill:/home/nill:/bin
/tcsh


Since you seem to have gotten several flames over your subject line, I won't
be hard on you (oops, pun intended)

Look like the first password might be DES. The second one is definitely MD5
(note the $1$).

Perhaps the DES stuff didn't get included when you did your upgrade. I'd
start investigating there...

--Dan

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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> > i recently tried to install an 4.1-REL (2 Floppies) on an dual i386 SCSI
> 
> A dual i386 box?  This would be the first time I'd heard of anything
> like that.  Is it some homebrew horror?
sorry, think i were a little distorted :)
no its a nice:
double Intel Pentium III ("GenuineIntel" 686-class, 512KB L2 cache) 451
MHz on an intel mainboard if i overlook that correctly.

> > HD 1/2 gig RAM over FTP and chose the expert mode or whatever it is called
> > again in the Installation-Menu. However everything went just fine, but
> 
> Do you have multiple SCSI drives installed?  Did you install to the first
> drive or to another drive?  It's impossible to diagnose your problem
> without knowing more, and your hardware already sounds weird.

no its the first and one and only scsi disk drive here we go:
ncr0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 "Symbios Logic 53c875" rev 0x26: ultra wide
scsi, irq 11
sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <IBM, DNES-309170W, SA30> SCSI3 0/direct
fixed
sd0: 8748MB, 11474 cyl, 5 head, 312 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 17916240 sec total
isa0 at pcib0

we habe two of those:
fxp0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 "Intel 82557" rev 0x08: irq 12, address
00:90:27:7
8:58:64

and real mem  = 536444928 (523872K) ECC that is i think.

no weird hardware, promise :)

ciao,
	Stefan

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At Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:08:44 CDT, Tim Zingelman wrote:
> [I've cc'd the person who, if I'm seeing correctly, has most recently
>  changed this part of Makefile.inc1 in -CURRENT.  Since this keeps
>  coming up here, and we need -CURRENT to DTRT so we can then get a
>  MFC to make us happy here in -STABLE]
> 
>  Have the 'make buildkernel' target build the first one in the list with
>  KERNEL=kernel, and all the others with KERNEL=kernel.NAME.  (in my above
>  example, MYCUSTOM would get built as kernel and GENERIC would get built
>  as kernel.GENERIC.
> 
>  Have the 'make installkernel' target install the first one in the KERNEL
>  list with KERNEL=kernel, and all the others with KERNEL=kernel.NAME.
>  (again my example would install MYCUSTOM in /kernel and GENERIC in
>  /kernel.GENERIC.


This has been discussed in -current or -arch
see PR 17698 for a patch
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17698

The outcome of the discussion was that multiple kernels are not 
supported today but a new kernel/module scheme has been proposed
and it will hopefully make life easier in the regard.

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I'm "using" IPNAT (not natd) to do IP mapping and port rediction, but it doesn't
seem to be working.  This same configuration used to work, but somewhere since
I last tried to use it (somewhere back in 4.0-STABLE), it has quit working:

FreeBSD edgemaster.zombie.org 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Wed Aug  2 17:23:12 CDT 2000     root@edgemaster.zombie.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/EDGEMASTER  i386

(31) root@edgemaster:~$ ipnat -l
List of active MAP/Redirect filters:
map xl0 192.68.0.0/16  -> 24.7.36.238/32
rdr xl0 24.7.36.238/32 port 51210 -> 192.168.0.2 port 51210 tcp
rdr xl0 24.7.36.238/32 port 51201 -> 192.168.0.2 port 51201 udp
rdr xl0 24.7.36.238/32 port 51200 -> 192.168.0.2 port 51200 udp
rdr xl0 24.7.36.238/32 port 6970 -> 192.168.0.2 port 6970 udp
rdr xl0 24.7.36.238/32 port 6972 -> 192.168.0.2 port 6972 udp
rdr xl0 24.7.36.238/32 port 6974 -> 192.168.0.2 port 6974 udp
(32) root@edgemaster:~$ ifconfig ep0
ep0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 192.168.255.255
        ether 00:10:5a:23:7f:41
        media: 10baseT/UTP
        supported media: 10baseT/UTP
(33) root@edgemaster:~$ ifconfig xl0
xl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        inet 24.7.36.238 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 24.7.36.255
        ether 00:10:5a:c6:b4:e4
        media: 10baseT/UTP (10baseT/UTP <half-duplex>)
        supported media: 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP <half-duplex> 10baseT/UTP

ep0 leads to my laptop which is 192.168.0.2.  xl0 leads to the Internet.
Either I"m stupidly missing something very important, or IPNAT is busted.
The connection between the laptop and desktop works, because IPs are resolving
and I can ping the desktop.  Any and all help on this subect would be much
appreciated.

Thanks in advance

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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Jason C. Wells wrote:

> Add three users all with the same password. You will see that the shadow
> password is different for all three. (If memory serves) There is something
> in that whole crypto deal called salt. (If memory serves) The details are
> up to you.

I didn't read his initial post, and if I had...  I likely wouldn't waste
the time that's going into this message on him, but...

"The algorithm that crypt() uses is based on the Data Encryption Standard
(DES)...

The UNIX crypt() function takes the user's password as the encryption key
and uses it to encrypt a 64-bit block of zeros.  The resulting 64-bit
black of cipher text is then encrypted again with the user's password; the
process is repeated a total of 25 times.  The finaly 64 bits are unpakced
into a string of 11 printable characters that are stored in the
/etc/passwd file.

...The DES salt is a 12-bit number, between 0 and 4095, which slightly
changes the result of the DES function.  Each of the 4096 different salts
makes a password encrypt a different way.

When you change your password, the /bin/passwd program selects a salt
based on the time of day.  The salt is converted into a two-character
string and is stored in the /etc/passwd file along with the encrypted
'password'.  In this manner, when you type your password at login time,
the same salt is used again.  UNIX stores the salt as the first two
characters of the encrypted password."

			--"Practical UNIX & Internet Security"
			  Simson Garfinkel and Gene Spafford
			  O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
			  http://www.ora.com

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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Dan O'Connor wrote:

> Look like the first password might be DES. The second one is definitely MD5
> (note the $1$).

Ahh, that's what he was asking.  Yes, DES passwords won't have non
alphanumeric characters in them (I. e. '$').

> Perhaps the DES stuff didn't get included when you did your upgrade. I'd
> start investigating there...

ls /usr/lib/*des* is a good way to check...

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From: Bigwillie <mvanberk@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: New
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Well after 4 hours trying to upgrade, I believe I failed a step or two 
somewhere,  I tried to make installkernel and I got an error stating that a 
folder didnt exist, (dont remember the correct error), so I just did a 
install world, updated /etc, /dev and /stand/sysinstall.  Im trying it 
again, following instructions given by www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd 
.  Ill see in the morning, Im tired.
this thing takes forever on my machine......
Talk to you all soon.


At 01:41 AM 8/3/00 , you wrote:
>On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Bigwillie wrote:
>
> > Well according to /usr/src/UPDATING I should be using the build kernel
> > method.  That is where Im at right now, hopefully all stages should go
> > through smoothly.  Ill report how things go.
>
>That is good. But puhlease read in the handbook about making world and all
>that good stuff. UPDATING is a "up to the minute" (sic) document. You
>still need everything in the handbook.
>
>Notably, buildkernel does nat upgrade the entire system. From you message,
>I would guess you are missing some BIG steps.
>
>Thank you,
>Jason C. Wells
>


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Hi all

I'm using mylex AcceleRAID 150 and works fine.
But I don't know how I will know the status of
each HDD,such as "online","hot spare","NG" etc.

I think `mlxcontrol status' can do this.
but only show following...

# mlxcontrol status mlxd0
mlxcontrol: couldn't get controller/drive for /dev/mlxd0
mlxd0: online
#

Any help would be appreciated.

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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Warner Losh wrote:

> tamper with the authd on the remote site or that the logs on the local 
> site weren't altered, then yes, I suppose that you might be able to

Thats why its up to the remote site to trust it...you are just passing it
on to help them identify the individual ITRW. Hopefully they know if they
have been exploited or not by then...

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Hi guys,
I just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1 and wanna upgrade to FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE.
Anyway, I did that few times with 3.x and 4.0.
I used to cvsup then just cd /usr/src; make world.
then recompile my kernel:
cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
/usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL
cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL
make depend; make; make install

And It worked for me all the time, I was checking thew handbook and saw
something new which is:
# cd /usr/src
# make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
# make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL

Do I have to use that way or the old way will work just fine.

Thanks,

Nader

P.S. someone told me that cvs-crypto is a part of src-all now, is that true?
so i don't need to have cvs-crypto on my supfile anymore if i'm using
scr-all ????



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From owner-freebsd-stable  Thu Aug  3  0:54:12 2000
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What I did:

1. cvsup-ed all sources, just check out, not whole cvs repository
2. make buildworld && make installworld, testing, fine
3. hacking /usr/src/release/Makefile, where, instead of 'cvs'-ing srcs, I
just 'cp' them in $CHROOTDIR/src
4. make release
5. about mm... 6 hours and everything is ok, done successfully
6. now i will make a CD(s) and will be happy :-)

Well, this is a bit away from the 'standard' release/snap making
procedure, but as i said in my prev messages - I do this for me only, to
have MY snapshot on a bootable CD, just in case. The price is reasonable -
a night of my life :-)


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On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 at 03:15:40 -0400, Nader Turki wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1 and wanna upgrade to FreeBSD
> 4.1-STABLE.  Anyway, I did that few times with 3.x and 4.0.  I used to
> cvsup then just cd /usr/src; make world.
> then recompile my kernel:
> cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
> /usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL
> cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL
> make depend; make; make install
> 
> And It worked for me all the time, I was checking thew handbook and
> saw something new which is:
> # cd /usr/src
> # make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
> # make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
> 
> Do I have to use that way or the old way will work just fine.

The new way is preferred.  If you use the old way, chances are, it will
work fine (it has here), but there are no promises.  YMMV.

If you cvsup the source, you should get the changes added to the tree
tonight that install the kernel as /kernel instead of /MYKERNEL (see
/usr/src/UPDATING for more info on the procedure if you don't get the
latest changes).  Otherwise, you can add the following line to your
kernel config file to get it to install as /kernel:

   makeoptions	KERNEL=kernel

> P.S. someone told me that cvs-crypto is a part of src-all now, is
> that true?

Yes.

> so i don't need to have cvs-crypto on my supfile anymore if i'm using
> scr-all ????

Correct.

- jim

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Hi out there,

I newly installed 4.1-RELEASE.

As I run /usr/local/src/i4b/overinstall.sh, it stops while trying to patch
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/files.i386
I had a short look around and found out that files.i386 is located under
/usr/src/sys/conf/ and not under /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/.
I tried to 1) modify overinstall.sh 2) move files.i386 onto
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/, but on both cases while building a new kernel 'make depend' also
fails (with something like "Don't know how to make i4b_usr_sti.c).

I think that there already exists a patch for overinstall.sh (and
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Can someone help me?

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So the way it works is:
- cvsup
- cd /usr/src
- make world
- make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
- make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
- reboot

is that it?

Thanks,

Nader


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jim Mock <jim@jmock.com>
To: Nader Turki <nturki@adelphia.net>
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> On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 at 03:15:40 -0400, Nader Turki wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > I just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1 and wanna upgrade to FreeBSD
> > 4.1-STABLE.  Anyway, I did that few times with 3.x and 4.0.  I used to
> > cvsup then just cd /usr/src; make world.
> > then recompile my kernel:
> > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
> > /usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL
> > cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL
> > make depend; make; make install
> > 
> > And It worked for me all the time, I was checking thew handbook and
> > saw something new which is:
> > # cd /usr/src
> > # make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
> > # make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
> > 
> > Do I have to use that way or the old way will work just fine.
> 
> The new way is preferred.  If you use the old way, chances are, it will
> work fine (it has here), but there are no promises.  YMMV.
> 
> If you cvsup the source, you should get the changes added to the tree
> tonight that install the kernel as /kernel instead of /MYKERNEL (see
> /usr/src/UPDATING for more info on the procedure if you don't get the
> latest changes).  Otherwise, you can add the following line to your
> kernel config file to get it to install as /kernel:
> 
>    makeoptions KERNEL=kernel
> 
> > P.S. someone told me that cvs-crypto is a part of src-all now, is
> > that true?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > so i don't need to have cvs-crypto on my supfile anymore if i'm using
> > scr-all ????
> 
> Correct.
> 
> - jim
> 
> -- 
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I was wondering if there where any pages on how to setup vinum for RAID5
that are aimed at less experienced FBSD users?  the man page appears to have
anything it just assumes knowledge of a lot of things that I have delt with
yet.

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Hello,

I have this card working using 4.1-STABLE. The only problem that I am seeing
is the speed of the drive is being reported as 3.3 MB/sec. I know there were
some problems with the DC390U2W that have been fixed, something to do with
the NVRAM if I remember correctly. What I am wondering is if there is a fix
that I can apply, or a workaround that will get the drive running at Ultra2
speeds.

Thanks in advance,

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In list.freebsd-stable Plamen Petkov <plamendp@plamen.bgstore.com> wrote:
 > 3. hacking /usr/src/release/Makefile, where, instead of 'cvs'-ing srcs, I
 > just 'cp' them in $CHROOTDIR/src

Using tar (or star from the ports) is probably better
than cp.

 > Well, this is a bit away from the 'standard' release/snap making
 > procedure, but as i said in my prev messages - I do this for me only, to
 > have MY snapshot on a bootable CD, just in case. The price is reasonable -
 > a night of my life :-)

And what is the advantage over simply making a backup
of your disk?

Regards
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In list.freebsd-stable Daniel O'Connor <doconnor@gsoft.com.au> wrote:
 > Or give them a real business card..
 > 
 > Still, hotsync'ing via IR is neat :)

If I'm not mistaken, the IR feature of the Palm (at least
the Palm III) isn't even Irda, but some proprietary stuff.

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On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:25:46PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> In list.freebsd-stable Daniel O'Connor <doconnor@gsoft.com.au> wrote:
>  > Or give them a real business card..
>  > 
>  > Still, hotsync'ing via IR is neat :)
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, the IR feature of the Palm (at least
> the Palm III) isn't even Irda, but some proprietary stuff.

It can be both, OS3.3 and higher support transparent IrCOMM use and IR hotsync
with PCs via IrCOMM

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On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:25:46PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> In list.freebsd-stable Daniel O'Connor <doconnor@gsoft.com.au> wrote:
>  > Or give them a real business card..
>  > 
>  > Still, hotsync'ing via IR is neat :)
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, the IR feature of the Palm (at least
> the Palm III) isn't even Irda, but some proprietary stuff.

The Palms actually have proper IrDA.  The Nokia 7110 and 8810 have full
IrDA support as well, as do some of the higher Ericsson's.  The Nokia
6110 and 6150 have IR, but it's not IrDA.  A lot of those phones aren't
available in the US though, IIRC.

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Absolutely hotsync'ing via IR is neat.  I carry my Palm (like the
card-carrying geek-member that I am) everywhere I go.  But I'll be
darned if I want to have to carry my hotsync cradle everywhere that I
take my laptop.  Bottom line, it is much more convenient to grab
something off the net and install it via IR in 5 seconds than have to
wait until I get home and then remember to do it before I leave the
house....  Anyhoo, I've not gotten what I'm assuming is at least 2
previous messages in this thread, but it looks like IR is not on
anybody's priority list for the FBSD kernel?

* Daniel O'Connor <doconnor@gsoft.com.au> [000803 13:46]:
> 
> On 03-Aug-00 Henry F. Marquardt wrote:
> >  I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem.
> >  Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I remember some of
> >  the early marketing hype there with people swapping IR business cards - I
> >  don't think I've ever seen anyone do that and I don't think I could figure
> >  out how in any reasonable amount of time with mine - it'd be quicker to
> >  scribble on a napkin.
> 
> Or give them a real business card..
> 
> Still, hotsync'ing via IR is neat :)
> 
> Also, IR to a mobile is nice for making data calls..
> 
> ---
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> for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
> "The nice thing about standards is that there
> are so many of them to choose from."
>   -- Andrew Tanenbaum
> 
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On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 09:00:40AM -0500, Jason Kasper wrote:
> Absolutely hotsync'ing via IR is neat.  I carry my Palm (like the
> card-carrying geek-member that I am) everywhere I go.  But I'll be
> darned if I want to have to carry my hotsync cradle everywhere that I
> take my laptop.  Bottom line, it is much more convenient to grab
> something off the net and install it via IR in 5 seconds than have to
> wait until I get home and then remember to do it before I leave the
> house....  Anyhoo, I've not gotten what I'm assuming is at least 2
> previous messages in this thread, but it looks like IR is not on
> anybody's priority list for the FBSD kernel?

Well it's on mine, but I'm a way off yet.  I hope to make some significant
progress this weekend, which may or may not result in a vaguely functional
IrLAP netgraph node.  Then I need to write an IrLMP node, a TinyTP node and
an IrCOMM node.  Then you'll be able to HotSync, assuming your laptop's IR
port shows up as a serial device. =)

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On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:21:24PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote:

>  > have MY snapshot on a bootable CD, just in case. The price is
>  > reasonable - a night of my life :-)
> 
> And what is the advantage over simply making a backup
> of your disk?

If I have such a CD, I can it auto install on several machines, without
further investigation. This is much less time consuming than a cloneing
from a backup.

Just my 0.02 euro.

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I also ran into the same problem. I couldn't login to my box after upgrading

from 4.0-S to 4.1-R

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Gill [SMTP:jamgill@UU.NET]
> Sent:	Wednesday, August 02, 2000 10:43 PM
> To:	freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> Subject:	closet homoeroticism in -STABLE?!?
> 
> 
> such an attention-getting subject, i should write for weekly world news.
> 
> check out these two entries from /etc/master.passwd :
> 
> gill:0BI5r7TYic5NI:1001:1001::0:0:gill:/home/gill:/bin/tcsh
> nill:$1$ZdxdtsZc$gayCmDvdyPyNknWKTOCQL.:1002:1002::0:0:nill:/home/nill:/bi
> n/tcsh
> 
> they have the same password, but second encrypted one is totally
> different.  the uid 1001 was created yesterday immediately after the
> 4.1-RELEASE install.  the uid 1002 was created after the following steps
> were taken.  is there some change in the hash used for passwords between
> 4.1-R and 4.1-S?
> 
> I figured this out when I first couldn't get into my box at _all_ and on
> subsequent attempts couldn't su root and/or login via telnet/ssh.
> 
> I have done this now three times with great precision:
> 
> step 1) install 4.1-RELEASE via FTP with floppies imaged 7/30
> 	-minimal install with: bin, basic crypto, manpages, base /usr/src,
> 	/usr/src/sys
> step 2) install cvsup-bin & screen from ports
> 	-CVSup client, GUI version Software version: REL_16_1
> 	-Screen version 3.09.05 (FAU) 1-Sep-99
> step 3) copy my 4x-STABLE supfile and Makefile into /root/cvs/
> 	-http://www.freebsddiary.org/samples/makefile.for.build.world
> 	-http://www.topsecret.net/gill/INDIAN_4.0-STABLE-supfile
> 	note here:  i've declined kerberos*, games, and take cvs-crypto
> step 4) make update, make build, make install, make kernel
> 	note here: i got the same problem as described in
> 	http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/x/152/50/4130003/
> 	and i am currently starting again with make update as I noticed
> 	http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/x/152/25/4130959/ said it was
> 	fixed.
> 
> any light shed on this is most appreciated!
> 
> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> --gill  | Tatu Ylonen, SSH 1.2.12 README:  "Beware that the most effective
>         | way for someone to decrypt your data may be with a rubber hose."
> 
> 
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This week we've moved all of our 3.5-STABLE boxes to 4.1-STABLE. As others
already determined, the steps in /usr/src/UPDATING are not sufficient for a
successful and smooth upgrade. While we upgraded machine after machine this
week, we had to adjust and enhance our upgrade procedure many times. Now that
all of our machines were successfully upgraded, I want to share our
experiences with you by forwarding you our last version of the procedure.

I'm sure some steps can be simplified or perhaps even left out, but I did not
care very much about optimizations or speedups. For us it was just important
that the upgrade worked correctly. And that's the case with the above steps.
I hope this procedure can help you a little bit in upgrading your boxes, too.

Yours,
                                       Ralf S. Engelschall
                                       rse@engelschall.com
                                       www.engelschall.com

Upgrading from FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE to FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE
Ralf S. Engelschall <rse@engelschall.com>, August 2000
=======================================================

o  boot the old FreeBSD 3.x in multi-user mode

o  provide a particular build environment
   $ vi /etc/make.conf
   NOPERL=true         # else Perl would fail to build under 3.x initially
   NOPROFILE=true      # to speed up building
   MAKE_RSAINTL=YES    # for non-US
   USA_RESIDENT=NO     # dito.
   CFLAGS=-O -pipe     # standard optimization
   COPTFLAGS=-O -pipe  # dito.
   COMPAT1X=yes        # install compatibility libraries
   COMPAT20=yes        # dito.
   COMPAT21=yes        # dito.
   COMPAT22=yes        # dito.
   COMPAT3X=yes        # dito.

o  provide boot-strapping run-time environment
   $ mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc
   $ ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc

o  build the world initially (still under FreeBSD 3.x run-time)
   $ cd /usr/obj
   $ chflags -R noschg *
   $ rm -rf *
   $ cd /usr/src
   $ make buildworld

o  build and install new GENERIC kernel+modules
   $ make buildkernel KERNEL=GENERIC
   $ make installkernel KERNEL=GENERIC
   $ chflags noschg /kernel.GENERIC /GENERIC
   $ mv /kernel.GENERIC /kernel.GENERIC.3
   $ mv /GENERIC /kernel.GENERIC
   $ chflags schg /kernel.GENERIC

o  upgrade FOO kernel config from 3.x to 4.x
   $ vi /sys/i386/conf/FOO
   - remove "config kernel ...", "bio", "tty", "net", "conflicts"
   - remove unnecessary quotations
   - remove "pnp" device
   - remove "acd0" device
   - remove obsolete options (check output of "config FOO")
   - replace some "xxx0" with "xxx" (compare LINT for details)
   - replace "controller" & "disk" with "device"
   - replace "wdc0" with "ata0" plus more "ata*" from GENERIC
   - replace "bpfilter" with "bpf"
   - replace "isa?" with "atkbdc?" for "atkbd0" and "psm0" device
 
o  build and install new FOO kernel+modules
   $ make buildkernel KERNEL=FOO
   $ make installkernel KERNEL=FOO
   $ chflags noschg /kernel /FOO
   $ mv /kernel /kernel.3
   $ mv /FOO /kernel
   $ chflags schg /kernel

o  upgrade devices
   $ cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod && make install
   $ cp /usr/src/etc/MAKEDEV* /dev
   $ cd /dev 
   $ sh MAKEDEV all
   - make sure really all devices for disks exists:
     for N in the list of disks
       sh MAKEDEV N                   # eg ad0
       for M in the list of slices
           sh MAKEDEV NsMa            # eg ad0s1a
   - edit /etc/fstab and replace "wd0" with "ad0"

o  upgrade boot blocks and loader
   $ cd /sys/boot && make install

o  boot FreeBSD 4.x kernel (still with 3.x user-land) in single-user mode
   $ shutdown -r now
   > boot -s
   $ mount -a

o  install the world
   $ cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info 
   $ make install
   $ ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc
   $ cd /usr/src
   $ make installworld
   $ cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall && make all install

o  upgrade /etc
   $ cp -rp /etc /etc.old
   $ mergemaster -v -s

o  final adjustments for new FreeBSD 4.x user-land
   $ touch /var/log/security
   $ touch /var/log/cron
   $ rm /var/cron/log*

o  switch to new shipped OpenSSH [OPTIONAL!]
   $ ssh-keygen -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
   $ ssh-keygen -d -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
   $ vi /etc/rc.conf
   sshd_enable="YES"
   $ pkg_delete ssh-1.2.27

o  boot FreeBSD 4.x kernel and user-land in multi-user mode
   $ shutdown -r now

o  rebuild some criticial programs to avoid spurious segfaults
   under the forthcoming final "buildworld/installworld" step
   $ vi /etc/make.conf
   #NOPERL=true
   $ cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl 
   $ (cd libperl && make all install)
   $ (cd perl && make all install)
   $ make clean all install
   $ cd /usr/src/usr.bin/lex && make clean all install
   $ cd /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc && make clean all install
   $ cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/as && make clean all install
   $ cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc && make clean all install
   $ cd /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc && make clean all install

o  build and install the world finally from scratch (under FreeBSD 4.x run-time)
   $ cd /usr/obj
   $ chflags -R noschg *
   $ rm -rf *
   $ cd /usr/src
   $ make buildworld
   $ make installworld

o  rebuild the kernel with the final tools
   $ cd /sys/i386/conf
   $ config FOO
   $ cd /sys/compile/FOO
   $ make depend all
   $ make install

o  reboot to switch to the final FreeBSD 4.x system
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Dear FreeBSD world,

i have the following problem and i hope you know an answer for it:

I run 4.1-stable (from 2-8 from ftp.nl.freebsd.org)

i get this error:

www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error
scsi0: fatal drive I/O error
vinum: drive scsi0 is down
vinum: mail.p0.s0 is crashed
vinum: mail.p0 is faulty
vinum: mail is down
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status =3D=3D 0x5b, scsi status=
 =3D=3D 0x0
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack
www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error
scsi0: fatal drive I/O error
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack
www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error
scsi0: fatal drive I/O error
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack
www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error
scsi0: fatal drive I/O error
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack
www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error
scsi0: fatal drive I/O error
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack
www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error
scsi0: fatal drive I/O error
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack
www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error
scsi0: fatal drive I/O error
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack
www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error
scsi0: fatal drive I/O error
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack

If anyone knows where this comes from and/or how to fix this i would be gra=
tefull.. I'm a very faithfull FreeBSD user and have never had real big trou=
bles with FreeBSD till 4.x, maybe it's just an hardware error, but the scsi=
 bios tests en checkit tests run without much problems..


my dmesg is:

Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Thu Aug  3 12:55:07 GMT 2000
    root@www2.equilibrate.net:/www/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WWW2
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (602.19-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin =3D "GenuineIntel"  Id =3D 0x683  Stepping =3D 3
  Features=3D0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,=
CMOV,PA
T,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,XMM>
real memory  =3D 536854528 (524272K bytes)
config> q
avail memory =3D 519086080 (506920K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc031c000.
Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc031c09c.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pcib2: <VIA 82C598MVP (Apollo MVP3) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device 1.0 on =
pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib2
pci1: <ATI Mach64-GB graphics accelerator> at 0.0 irq 11
isab0: <VIA 82C596B PCI-ISA bridge> at device 4.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <VIA 82C596B ATA66 controller> port 0xb800-0xb80f at device 4.1 on=
 pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
pci0: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> at 4.2 irq 12
ahc0: <Adaptec 2940 Ultra2 SCSI adapter> port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xe1000000-=
0xe10
00fff irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0
ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=3D7, 16/255 SCBs
xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xa800-0xa87f mem 0xe0800000-0=
xe080
007f irq 12 at device 13.0 on pci0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:da:df:3c:05
miibus0: <MII bus> on xl0
xlphy0: <3Com internal media interface> on miibus0
xlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
pcib1: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci2: <PCI bus> on pcib1
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0: <System console> on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x200>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ad0: 12407MB <Maxtor 91301U3> [25209/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA66
acd0: CDROM <CD-ROM 48X/TKU> at ata1-master using PIO4
Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <SEAGATE ST318436LW 0005> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing En=
abled
da0: 17522MB (35885168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2233C)
vinum: loaded
vinum: reading configuration from /dev/da0s1e

Kind Regards,
Jascha Hoogenraad

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Try these
1) Man pages of vinum(8) and vinum(4)
2) http://www.lemis.com/vinum

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Keith Kemp [SMTP:kkemp@nwcr.net]
> Sent:	Thursday, August 03, 2000 7:46 AM
> To:	freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject:	Vinum
> 
> I was wondering if there where any pages on how to setup vinum for RAID5
> that are aimed at less experienced FBSD users?  the man page appears to
> have
> anything it just assumes knowledge of a lot of things that I have delt
> with
> yet.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Keith Kemp
> 
> 
> 
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On  2 Aug, Henry F. Marquardt wrote:
= I  agree, this  is a  'lost'  technology, a  solution in  search of  a
= problem. Even the  palm crowd doesn't use  it much that I've  seen - I
= remember some of  the early marketing hype there  with people swapping
= IR business cards - I don't think  I've ever seen anyone do that and I
= don't think  I could figure out  how in any reasonable  amount of time
= with mine - it'd be quicker to scribble on a napkin.

Right -- and then you end up  with dozens of those napkins piling up. Or
not you  -- your company's business  people, who will then  force YOU to
support their Windoz machines, because  Windoz does have support for the
IR and the software that makes use of it...

	-mi (who sees his client's executives exchange data with
	     their Palm Pilots over IR quite often and efficient)



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In list.freebsd-stable Nora Etukudo <nora@sappho-net.de> wrote:
 > On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:21:24PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote:
 > >  > have MY snapshot on a bootable CD, just in case. The price is
 > >  > reasonable - a night of my life :-)
 > > 
 > > And what is the advantage over simply making a backup
 > > of your disk?
 > 
 > If I have such a CD, I can it auto install on several machines, without
 > further investigation. This is much less time consuming than a cloneing
 > from a backup.

Yes, I know that.

But Plamen Petkov wrote that he just needed a crash recovery
for a single box.  In that case, making a full release and
putting it on CD-R is a complete waste of time, IMO.
You have to make regular backups anyway, except if you don't
care about your data at all (and then you can just re-install
from your latest release CD-ROM and start over from there).

Regards
   Oliver

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That's true, as well as I said " just in case " :-). I find CD a much
safer media than a Hard Disk backup, except tapes. Also, I can give it to
my friends to popularize my lovely FreeBSD. Actualy, if go further this
way, sure, I can list at least 10 good reasons to have a CD with
MY-stable-snapshot, i mean , instalable.

Currently I have a server running 3.4R, pluged in my ISP's LAN. I will
leave it with this 3.4R until I have a good, tested, and fine working
installable CD with My-stable-snapshot. Then, I wll go and "Upgrade" my
3.4R server. Otherwise, I have to get this 3.4R machine at home,
cvsup sources again, make installworld again etc.

I hope you get the point ? 
 

-----------------------------------
Plamen D. Petkov  (ICQ 2214327 [pdp])
plamendp@bgstore.com
FBiS First Bulgarian Internet Store
http://auction.bgstore.com
http://www.bgstore.com
-----------------------------------
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Nora Etukudo wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 02:21:24PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> 
> >  > have MY snapshot on a bootable CD, just in case. The price is
> >  > reasonable - a night of my life :-)
> > 
> > And what is the advantage over simply making a backup
> > of your disk?
> 
> If I have such a CD, I can it auto install on several machines, without
> further investigation. This is much less time consuming than a cloneing
> from a backup.
> 



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I never said that, but, I do backups every week, as everybody do, right
? :-)

Well, 10x for advises and opinions, folks! :-)

-----------------------------------
Plamen D. Petkov  (ICQ 2214327 [pdp])
plamendp@bgstore.com
FBiS First Bulgarian Internet Store
http://auction.bgstore.com
http://www.bgstore.com
-----------------------------------
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Oliver Fromme wrote:

> But Plamen Petkov wrote that he just needed a crash recovery
> for a single box.  In that case, making a full release and
> putting it on CD-R is a complete waste of time, IMO.
> You have to make regular backups anyway, except if you don't
> care about your data at all (and then you can just re-install
> from your latest release CD-ROM and start over from there).
> 



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	Personally, having ~20 years experience building and installing
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	This allows multiple kernels to be installed in a standardised
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	Replacing /kernel (/unix, /vmunix etc.) should be a explicit
	manual step.

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I cvsup'ed @ 22:00 EST on 2 August (from 4.1RC #12). I then went to /usr/src
and issued a make world. When I checked this morning, I noticed that the
process completed in just under two hours, successfully. I just want to say,
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Hello, 

I have just moved one Realtek 8029 based card from my Linux server into FBSD 
server. Now I don't know which driver I need enable :-(
I have found in Handbook that it is supported (PCI NE2000), but I can't 
find which device I need :-(((

FreeBSD demon.rainbow 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Mon Jul 31 10:50:32 MSD

I hope that somebody can can give fast help.

Sorry for not so good English.

PS.
I'm new to FreeBSD.

-- 
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You want to ask this question on the questions@freebsd.org list.  The 
stable list has to do with issues specific to tracking the stable 
branch.  As to your question, it should work with

device ed1

in your config file

         ---Mike


At 07:07 PM 8/3/00 +0400, Igor Roboul wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I have just moved one Realtek 8029 based card from my Linux server into FBSD
>server. Now I don't know which driver I need enable :-(
>I have found in Handbook that it is supported (PCI NE2000), but I can't
>find which device I need :-(((
>
>FreeBSD demon.rainbow 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Mon Jul 31 
>10:50:32 MSD
>
>I hope that somebody can can give fast help.
>
>Sorry for not so good English.
>
>PS.
>I'm new to FreeBSD.
>
>--
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>http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=304744
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I have FreeBSD 3.5-Stable running.
Am preparing a new hard disk with FreeBSD 4.1-Stable to replace it.

To move the user account information (passwords, User IDs, Initial Group ID)
I plan to move these files:

   /etc/passwd
   /etc/master.passwd
   /etc/pwd.db
   /etc/spwd.db

I will boot the 3.5 system, mount the 4.1 hard drive root at /mnt/oroot
and "cp /etc/passwd /mnt/oroot/etc/passwd".  With this I hope to avoid
any peculiar "file locking" of these files once the 4.1 system is running.

Two questions:
  1) Are these (4) files sufficient or are other files needed?
     (I realize that /etc/group is also important)

  2) Can these files simply be moved from a 3.5 system to a 4.1 system,
     or is there a change of file format?

I read the online handbook, and the section regarding users did not
describe this situation.  Also perused the man pages.

Marty Cawthon
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On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Igor Roboul wrote:

> Hello, 
> 
> I have just moved one Realtek 8029 based card from my Linux server into FBSD 
> server. Now I don't know which driver I need enable :-(
> I have found in Handbook that it is supported (PCI NE2000), but I can't 
> find which device I need :-(((
> 
> FreeBSD demon.rainbow 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Mon Jul 31 10:50:32 MSD
> 
> I hope that somebody can can give fast help.
> 

/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC and /sys/i386/conf/LINT are your friends.  Simply
search for RealTek and you should find what you are looking for.

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At 03:13 PM 8/3/00 +0000, Marty Cawthon wrote:
>I have FreeBSD 3.5-Stable running.
>Am preparing a new hard disk with FreeBSD 4.1-Stable to replace it.
>
>To move the user account information (passwords, User IDs, Initial Group ID)
>I plan to move these files:

Just copy over /etc/groups and /etc/master.passwd, and on the new system, 
vipw and then save the file. (or pwd_mkdb)

I will boot the 3.5 system, mount the 4.1 hard drive root at /mnt/oroot
>and "cp /etc/passwd /mnt/oroot/etc/passwd".  With this I hope to avoid
>any peculiar "file locking" of these files once the 4.1 system is running.

Also, make sure that the uids under 100 are sane and that any added on your 
4.x machine are still there when you merge your files in.

         ---Mike
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In message <20000803151326W.mrc@ChipChat.ne.jp>, Marty Cawthon writes:
>I will boot the 3.5 system, mount the 4.1 hard drive root at /mnt/oroot
>and "cp /etc/passwd /mnt/oroot/etc/passwd".  With this I hope to avoid

I doubt that you want to do that..
# cp /mnt/orooot/etc/passwd /etc/passwd
Unless you want the new password file on your 3.5 box :)

>any peculiar "file locking" of these files once the 4.1 system is running.
>
>Two questions:
>  1) Are these (4) files sufficient or are other files needed?
>     (I realize that /etc/group is also important)

Yeah, the group file has some significant importance :)
Depending on what your 3.5 server was doing you may want to compare
/etc/inetd.conf and other such files, like your ppp config files if 
you use ppp, etc etc Plus any config files for ports that may have build 
and use on your old system.  (check /usr/local/etc) 
I am assuming that /home is on a separate hd or at least a separate slice so that
it can be mounted when you switch to the 4.1 hd.  I am also assuming that 
these are in the same machine..? I don't think that was clear. 

>
>  2) Can these files simply be moved from a 3.5 system to a 4.1 system,
>     or is there a change of file format?

The password and group file haven't change formats.  There may be new groups
or different group names with the same gids that you may want to 
look into.  Read the docs on updating with make world (after the actual make, 
it explains stuff about how to sync the appropriate system config files. This 
may or may not apply, but its worth checking out if you havent already.)

>
>I read the online handbook, and the section regarding users did not
>describe this situation.  Also perused the man pages.
>
>Marty Cawthon
>ChipChat
>
>
Good luck!

Live Large,

Jared Chenkin
<chenkinj@bxcience.edu>
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On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Nader Turki wrote:

> So the way it works is:
> - cvsup
> - cd /usr/src

    shutdown now

> - make world
> - make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
> - make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
> - reboot
> 
> is that it?

    You should go to single-user mode if you're going to make world
(see above).

Regards,
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You should add
device ed
to your kernel config file.

Jonathan Fosburgh
Open Systems
Communications and Computer Services
UT MD Anderson Cancer Center
Houston, TX 77030
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From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" <jedgar@fxp.org>
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Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Realtek 8029


> On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Igor Roboul wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have just moved one Realtek 8029 based card from my Linux server into
FBSD
> > server. Now I don't know which driver I need enable :-(
> > I have found in Handbook that it is supported (PCI NE2000), but I can't
> > find which device I need :-(((
> >
> > FreeBSD demon.rainbow 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Mon Jul 31
10:50:32 MSD
> >
> > I hope that somebody can can give fast help.
> >
>
> /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC and /sys/i386/conf/LINT are your friends.  Simply
> search for RealTek and you should find what you are looking for.
>
> -----
> Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org
> --------------------------------------------------------
> FreeBSD: The Power To Serve   -   http://www.FreeBSD.org
>
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Hello Mark,

Thursday, August 03, 2000, 4:48:22 PM, you wrote:


>         Personally, having ~20 years experience building and installing
>         kernels.  I would prefer kernels to be installed as
>         kernel.<FOO> where <FOO> is replaced by the config file name.
>         This allows multiple kernels to be installed in a standardised
>         manner.

>         Replacing /kernel (/unix, /vmunix etc.) should be a explicit
>         manual step.

If you use make builkernel / installkernel (the recommended procedure
for updating. As I'm too lazy to have different scripts for almost
the same job, I use it all the time ;-) to do the job, the kernel
will end up as /<configname>.



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In message <20000803231034.K3777@netizen.com.au> Benno Rice writes:
: Well it's on mine, but I'm a way off yet.  I hope to make some significant
: progress this weekend, which may or may not result in a vaguely functional
: IrLAP netgraph node.  Then I need to write an IrLMP node, a TinyTP node and
: an IrCOMM node.  Then you'll be able to HotSync, assuming your laptop's IR
: port shows up as a serial device. =)

Personally, I'd love to be able to use the IRda port since it is
faster than the serial port on my WinCE machines.  However, I have
less than zero time for this.  Buying an ethernet card fixed this
problem (which really was a problem on how to get netbsd boot images
to the wince machine, but I digress).

Even if we have irda support in the kernel, hotsync takes an
additional protocol layer, kinda like FTP but not really.  It is the
same as having IP but no ftpd I guess is what I'm trying to say.
Microsoft doesn't document the hotsync protocol at all :-(.

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Hello Chris,

Thursday, August 03, 2000, 5:30:25 PM, you wrote:

>     You should go to single-user mode if you're going to make world
> (see above).

I even do make installworld (from 4-S to 4-S, wouldn't risk it
when changing a major release but 4.1 to 4-S shouldn't be a big
difference at the moment) while running normal and never encountered
any problems. So why should I switch to single user mode (which is
pretty unsexy for production 24x7 servers anyway...)?



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On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Vinesh Christopher wrote:

> I also ran into the same problem. I couldn't login to my box after upgrading
> from 4.0-S to 4.1-R
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Gill [SMTP:jamgill@UU.NET]
> > Sent:	Wednesday, August 02, 2000 10:43 PM
> > To:	freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> > Subject:	closet homoeroticism in -STABLE?!?
> > 
> > 
> > such an attention-getting subject, i should write for weekly world news.
> > check out these two entries from /etc/master.passwd :
> > 
> > gill:0BI5r7TYic5NI:1001:1001::0:0:gill:/home/gill:/bin/tcsh
> > nill:$1$ZdxdtsZc$gayCmDvdyPyNknWKTOCQL.:1002:1002::0:0:nill:/home/nill:/bi
> > n/tcsh
> > 
> > they have the same password, but second encrypted one is totally
> > different.  the uid 1001 was created yesterday immediately after the
> > 4.1-RELEASE install.  the uid 1002 was created after the following steps
> > were taken.  is there some change in the hash used for passwords between
> > 4.1-R and 4.1-S?

    The installation gives you the option of using the traditional
UNIX encryption or MD5.  I gather you used the latter on your upgrade.

    Worst case, boot from floppy, get into the fixit shell, and fixit.

--
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On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:

> Hello Chris,
> 
> Thursday, August 03, 2000, 5:30:25 PM, you wrote:
> 
> >     You should go to single-user mode if you're going to make world
> > (see above).
> 
> I even do make installworld (from 4-S to 4-S, wouldn't risk it
> when changing a major release but 4.1 to 4-S shouldn't be a big
> difference at the moment) while running normal and never encountered
> any problems. So why should I switch to single user mode (which is
> pretty unsexy for production 24x7 servers anyway...)?

    /usr/src/UPDATING recommends it because you're going to be
changing executables and libraries out from under currently-running
daemons.  This could cause failures in spectacular fashion for any
executables that dynamically load libraries that may have changed
since the time the daemon was started.

    If you want to minimize the downtime, do "make buildworld" in
multi-user mode instead, then drop to single-user mode and do "make
installworld" and reboot.

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Hello Chris,

Thursday, August 03, 2000, 6:03:54 PM, you wrote:
>     /usr/src/UPDATING recommends it because you're going to be
> changing executables and libraries out from under currently-running
> daemons.  This could cause failures in spectacular fashion for any
> executables that dynamically load libraries that may have changed
> since the time the daemon was started.

One problem persists: How should I drop to singleuser mode on
colocated servers? Pretty hard to do without driving to them.

Perhaps some script could do the job, where would I have to place
it in order to get them executed when single user mode is entered (one
just shouldn't forget the exit at the end ;-)?



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 Gabriel




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On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:20:25PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:

> One problem persists: How should I drop to singleuser mode on
> colocated servers? Pretty hard to do without driving to them.

Serial consoles and OOB access make the world go 'round.

What? You don't have OOB access? I bet the next time you drive
out there you will set it up.. :->

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"Henry F. Marquardt" wrote:
> 
> I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem.
> Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I remember some of
> the early marketing hype there with people swapping IR business cards - I
> don't think I've ever seen anyone do that and I don't think I could figure
> out how in any reasonable amount of time with mine - it'd be quicker to
> scribble on a napkin.
> 
> Same with my laptop, it was configured as com2 and as far as I was concerned
> just taking up IRQ space - I turned it off when I put FBSD on there.
> Doesn't mean you should play with it, but what are you going to *use* it
> for?
> 
> Hank
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
"Henry F. Marquardt" wrote:
 
> I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem.

I certainly do not agree with you on that.

> Doesn't mean you should play with it, but what are you going to *use* it
> for?

It is quite popular in great parts of Europe for linking up mobile
phones for making data calls and other features. The fact that IrCOMM
was taken out of Windows 2000 has upset quite a few people here.


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Hello Bill,

Thursday, August 03, 2000, 7:03:04 PM, you wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:20:25PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
>> One problem persists: How should I drop to singleuser mode on
>> colocated servers? Pretty hard to do without driving to them.
> Serial consoles and OOB access make the world go 'round.

Sorry, but what's OOB? I think it should be possible to cross connect
each two boxes with null modem cables (dunno if there's another word
for them in English) in order to get serial access, am I right?
(will try it as soon as I can get hands on cables -> tomorrow ;-)

If they weren't for Intel CPUs (we're an AMD shop since
ever ;-), I'd get some of those new Intel mainboards which even feed
the BIOS output to you...

But OTOH, at the moment, it'd take approx. 45 min to get to the servers
using public transport system, some minutes less but with the risk of
traffic jams if by car or, perhaps the best solution if weather allows
it, motorbike: Switzerland's small.




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On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 07:29:35PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:

> >> One problem persists: How should I drop to singleuser mode on
> >> colocated servers? Pretty hard to do without driving to them.
> > Serial consoles and OOB access make the world go 'round.
> 
> Sorry, but what's OOB? I think it should be possible to cross connect
> each two boxes with null modem cables (dunno if there's another word
> for them in English) in order to get serial access, am I right?
> (will try it as soon as I can get hands on cables -> tomorrow ;-)

Out of band. Serial cables cross connects, modems, a NOC monkey at
the terminal, remote consoles, etc.

> But OTOH, at the moment, it'd take approx. 45 min to get to the servers
> using public transport system, some minutes less but with the risk of
> traffic jams if by car or, perhaps the best solution if weather allows
> it, motorbike: Switzerland's small.

Yep. In rush hour it takes me 45min of crappy traffic, no traffic I can
make it in 15min. We use a cisco 2511 with lots of serial cables, but
we have more then 2 machines.

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Hello Bill,

> Out of band. Serial cables cross connects, modems, a NOC monkey at
> the terminal, remote consoles, etc.


Duuh. Better don't allow the NOC monkeys to even touch your racks...


> Yep. In rush hour it takes me 45min of crappy traffic, no traffic I can
> make it in 15min. We use a cisco 2511 with lots of serial cables, but
> we have more then 2 machines.

We've got several more. I meant that you could build pairs of two
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Gabriel Ambuehl <gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch> probably said:
> We've got several more. I meant that you could build pairs of two
> machines which are cross connected. It's more likely that the Cisco
> stuff fails than two FreeBSD servers in our experience...

That isn't my experience.  I've been using lots of 2511s for consoles,
at various work places and at home, for about 5 years. Never had one
fail.

The only moving part in a 2511 is a fan. Lots and lots of moving parts
in a PC. I know which one I trust more.

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Hello Peter,

Thursday, August 03, 2000, 7:57:25 PM, you wrote:
> That isn't my experience.  I've been using lots of 2511s for consoles,
> at various work places and at home, for about 5 years. Never had one
> fail.
> The only moving part in a 2511 is a fan. Lots and lots of moving parts
> in a PC. I know which one I trust more.

I'm not speaking about crashes here but merely software bugs. One
of our clients had massive problems because Cisco was too slow with
their bugfixes (can't comment much more on that issue, wasn't my case).
Since then, our routing whiz is avoiding Cisco.




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> Have a look at Eddie, www.eddieware.org. OpenSource sponsored by Ericsson.
> An Intelligent HTTP Gateway which provides site based
> Load Balancing,
> Reliability, 
> Scalability, and 
> Quality of Service. 


Eddie's feature list looks pretty impressive but what happens if the
load balancing box itself crashes?


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Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
> 
> Unless the server is under high load, cvsupping and make world while
> "at work" did never cause any problems here. You just have to make
> sure that you cvsup to a level that you know of that it's working.
> 

Bingo! That's the point: I have to know "that it's workin". And that's
not enough; I NEED to know it's working fine, stable, etc... I.e., it
mUST be tested! I can not afford to test on a machine working in the
real world. Too risky for me, and frankly speaking, I am not such an
expert as I wish to be :-))

Anyway, 10x for the advise, besides, it was the first option I thought
of. 10x again :-)


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Hello Plamen,

Thursday, August 03, 2000, 8:29:49 PM, you wrote:

> Bingo! That's the point: I have to know "that it's workin". And that's
> not enough; I NEED to know it's working fine, stable, etc... I.e., it
> mUST be tested!

Hmm I don't think there's much difference between a build of the same
source done on different machines.

> Anyway, 10x for the advise, besides, it was the first option I thought
> of. 10x again :-)

We do it all the time and never had problems. But we've got some
'safety belts' for ermegency cases.

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In message <Pine.WNT.4.21.0008031201560.356-100000@armani.yourfit.com> Chris BeHanna writes:
:     If you want to minimize the downtime, do "make buildworld" in
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This is the "safe" way of doing things.  One can often get away with
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night).  However, it is wisest to reboot after that so that things
like sendmail isn't "cross threaded" with one version running for the
daemons and another running for outgoing mail.  One can often get away
with it, but it isn't supported.

Basically there are lots of potential problems that are eliminated by
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hi,

don't know if this is helpfull, but i had to add the
following two lines to
/usr/src/release/sysinstall/devices.c and recompile
sysinstall, so it will recognize the idad disks for
fdisk/disklabel operations.

    { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK,         "idad%d",      
"Compaq SMART RAID adapter",    29, 65538, 8, 16, 'b' 
 },
    { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK,         "ridad%d",     
"Compaq SMART RAID adapter",    109, 65538, 8, 16, 'c'
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seems odd, as at some point i think i read that 4.1
installation supports the smart raid devices out of
the box (i.e. both in kernel and sysinstall)...

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I've got Compaq DL360s with the Integrated Smart
RAID adapters and support was added to 4.0-STABLE
on June 2nd.  I was able to use the June 2nd
snapshot of 4.0-STABLE and it installed fine.

Have you run the configuration utility and created
the RAID volume?


Barak Enat wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> don't know if this is helpfull, but i had to add the
> following two lines to
> /usr/src/release/sysinstall/devices.c and recompile
> sysinstall, so it will recognize the idad disks for
> fdisk/disklabel operations.
> 
>     { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK,         "idad%d",
> "Compaq SMART RAID adapter",    29, 65538, 8, 16, 'b'
>  },
>     { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK,         "ridad%d",
> "Compaq SMART RAID adapter",    109, 65538, 8, 16, 'c'
>  },
> 
> seems odd, as at some point i think i read that 4.1
> installation supports the smart raid devices out of
> the box (i.e. both in kernel and sysinstall)...
> 
> barak
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Hi,

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 08:22:44PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
> > Have a look at Eddie, www.eddieware.org. OpenSource sponsored by Ericsson.
> > An Intelligent HTTP Gateway which provides site based
> > Load Balancing,
> > Reliability, 
> > Scalability, and 
> > Quality of Service. 
> 
> 
> Eddie's feature list looks pretty impressive but what happens if the
> load balancing box itself crashes?

Good point. I've never used it myself so I don't know how you would set
it up so you don't have a single point of failure for the whole site.

Making an uneducated guess I recon you would still need some sort of backup
for it in case it goes down.

> 
> 
> Best regards,
>  Gabriel
> 
> 

Best Regards
Willem Brown

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Hello Willem,

Thursday, August 03, 2000, 9:59:25 PM, you wrote:
>> Eddie's feature list looks pretty impressive but what happens if the
>> load balancing box itself crashes?
> Good point. I've never used it myself so I don't know how you would set
> it up so you don't have a single point of failure for the whole site.
> Making an uneducated guess I recon you would still need some sort of backup
> for it in case it goes down.


I've got some ideas how one could handle it quite cheaply. If I ever
get some time and four spare boxes (two for load balancing, two
behind), I'll try it ;-)




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I am attempting to cvsup over a dial-up connection. I get the following e=
rror
message:
> Praetorian# cvsup stable-supfile=20
> Cannot get IP address of my own host -- is its hostname correct?
I know I can't be the first to encounter this problem. How can I correct =
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I am attempting to cvsup over a dial-up connection. I get the following e=
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> Cannot get IP address of my own host -- is its hostname correct?
I know I can't be the first to encounter this problem. How can I correct =
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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Henry F. Marquardt wrote:

>I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem.
>Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I remember some of
>the early marketing hype there with people swapping IR business cards - I
>don't think I've ever seen anyone do that and I don't think I could figure
>out how in any reasonable amount of time with mine - it'd be quicker to
>scribble on a napkin.

The only cool use I've seen for it yet is the ability to control a
furby with your palmtop.  It's really quite amusing to send someone into
a room with a furby they don't know you're controlling.  I wouldn't mind
the ability to do this from my FreeBSD laptop.  I can't find any serious
use for IrDA though.

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Hello all...

I built a router about six months back and it has been

working pretty good except that sometimes I will lose 
connectivity to the subnet on one of the ports (ep2). 


I lost connectivity again today and tried to figure
out what
was going wrong.  I don't know how to tell if it is
caused 
by hardware or my configuration.

                               10Mb      100Mb
                              +---------------+
              10.44.17.062/27=|ep0 FreeBSD    |
              10.44.17.126/27=|ep1 Router 
xl0|=10.44.25.250/30
              10.44.17.222/27=|ep2            |
                              +---------------+
me@FBSD_Router1$ uname -a
FreeBSD FBSD_Router1 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #2:
Fri Mar 17 11
:42:33 EST 2000    
me@FBSD_Router1:/usr/src/sys/compile/Router1-4  i386
me@FBSD_Router1$


     network_interfaces="xl0 ep2 ep1 ep0 lo0"
     ifconfig_xl0="inet  10.44.25.250    netmask
255.255.255.252"
     ifconfig_ep2="inet  10.44.17.222    netmask
255.255.255.224"
     ifconfig_ep1="inet  10.44.17.126    netmask
255.255.255.224"
     ifconfig_ep0="inet  10.44.17.62     netmask
255.255.255.224"
     defaultrouter="10.44.25.249"

After logging into the router from the ep1 subnet I
tried to ping
out to all the subnets.  The results are listed below:


me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.38
PING 10.44.17.38 (10.44.17.38): 56 data bytes         
       VIA ep0
64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128
time=1.114 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128
time=0.645 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128
time=0.594 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128
time=0.596 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128
time=0.617 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128
time=0.611 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=6 ttl=128
time=0.613 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=7 ttl=128
time=0.608 ms

me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.105
PING 10.44.17.105 (10.44.17.105): 56 data bytes       
       VIA ep1
64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128
time=0.722 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128
time=0.600 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128
time=0.587 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128
time=0.610 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128
time=0.578 ms

me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.200                    
       VIA ep2
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: sendto: No buffer space available   (Apparently
this is the problem.)
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: sendto: No buffer space available

me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.12.150
PING 10.44.12.150 (10.44.12.150): 56 data bytes       
       VIA xl0
64 bytes from 10.44.12.150: icmp_seq=0 ttl=254
time=1.629 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.12.150: icmp_seq=1 ttl=254
time=1.754 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.12.150: icmp_seq=2 ttl=254
time=1.665 ms

I had found in the past that if I down the adapter ep2
and brought
it back up again the communications would resume so
that is what 
the shellscript "updown2" does.

me@FBSD_Router1$ su root -c updown2
Password:
ep2: flags=8c02<BROADCAST,OACTIVE,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST>
mtu 1500
        inet 10.44.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast
10.44.17.223
        inet 10.54.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast
10.54.17.223
        ether 00:a0:24:23:70:cc
ep2:
flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu
1500
        inet 10.44.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast
10.44.17.223
        inet 10.54.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast
10.54.17.223
        ether 00:a0:24:23:70:cc

Once I bring the adapter down and back up again it
apparently 
functions fine (for a while at least. See below.) 
What should I 
do now??
Replace the adapter? 
Make some configuration change for that adapter in my
Kernel? 
Update to v3.5?  (The last time I cvsup'ed was prior
to the 
router going online for real work.)
Or... What other config file do you want to see?



me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.200
PING 10.44.17.200 (10.44.17.200): 56 data bytes       
       VIA ep2
64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128
time=0.641 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128
time=0.588 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128
time=0.568 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128
time=0.591 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128
time=0.575 ms
64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128
time=0.566 ms
^C
--- 10.44.17.200 ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 0% packet
loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev =
0.566/0.588/0.641/0.025 ms
me@FBSD_Router1$


=====
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Hello, 

I ran into a similar problem with install of 4.1 Release on a Compaq Smart 
Array 431. It seems there where patches to the ida driver to recognize 
controllers that probe as DEC/Compaq ....

There was a fix for it sometime AFTER 4.1 release. I didn't try your 
method, but instead built floppies and did an ftp install from the 
7/31/2000 stable snapshot. That worked just fine.

Btw -- thanks to all the folks that responded to my query on this problem 
last week :)

Bill




Barak Enat <barak_enat@yahoo.com>
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08/03/2000 01:59 PM

 
        To:     freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
        cc: 
        Subject:        sysinstall and compaq smart raid disks (idad)

hi,

don't know if this is helpfull, but i had to add the
following two lines to
/usr/src/release/sysinstall/devices.c and recompile
sysinstall, so it will recognize the idad disks for
fdisk/disklabel operations.

    { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK,         "idad%d", 
"Compaq SMART RAID adapter",    29, 65538, 8, 16, 'b' 
 },
    { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK,         "ridad%d", 
"Compaq SMART RAID adapter",    109, 65538, 8, 16, 'c'
 },

seems odd, as at some point i think i read that 4.1
installation supports the smart raid devices out of
the box (i.e. both in kernel and sysinstall)...

barak



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Subject: Re: Cached versus non cached disk I/O
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[catching up on some old mail]

On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 04:12:36PM -0500, Paul Coyne wrote:
>Is a mkdir cached?

It depends...  The following table lists the possible UFS mount modes,
together with their caching behaviour, in descending order of FS
integrity:

  mode        data   metadata
softupdates  async*   async*
sync          sync     sync
`normal'     async     sync
async        async    async

Where sync means write-though caching and async means write-back
caching.  async* means that write-back caching is used, but the
write ordering is controlled to ensure FS consistency on disk.

mkdir(2) and symlink(2) entail metadata updates, so they are
cached for both softupdates and async mounts.

>Does a mkdir call from an NFS client wait for a positive response from
>an NFS server prior to handling the next request?

Again, this depends...  By default, NFSv2 is fully synchronous - the
client will wait until the server has committed the change to disk.
NFSv3 allows some asynchronous operations, though I'm uncertain of
the details.  The defaults can be over-ridden by a sysctl.

On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 09:06:31PM -0700, Tom wrote:
>  It
>should be obvious that write-buffering metadata can cause problems, even
>with softupdates, though softupdates is clearly better than async.

Not quite.  softupdates is actually more robust than a normal FS
mount (and far more robust than async).  The softupdates code
controls the ordering of both data and metadata writes to ensure
that the FS on disk is always internally consistent.  With a
normal mount, the metadata is mostly internally consistent, but
is not necessarily consistent with the data.

Peter


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On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Peter Jeremy wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 09:06:31PM -0700, Tom wrote:
> >  It
> >should be obvious that write-buffering metadata can cause problems, even
> >with softupdates, though softupdates is clearly better than async.
> 
> Not quite.  softupdates is actually more robust than a normal FS
> mount (and far more robust than async).  The softupdates code
> controls the ordering of both data and metadata writes to ensure
> that the FS on disk is always internally consistent.  With a
> normal mount, the metadata is mostly internally consistent, but
> is not necessarily consistent with the data.

  Not likely.  I personally pushed softupdates over the edge before (see
archives).  In my case, the amount of unwritten metadata filled up all
kernel space.  The filesystem was recoverable, but fsck filled up
lost+found several times (that should be considered a fsck bug that wasn't
possible to expose without softupdates). It was rather messy.

> Peter


Tom
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On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:22:44 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl <gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch> said:


Gabriel> Eddie's feature list looks pretty impressive but what happens
Gabriel> if the load balancing box itself crashes?

Is anyone aware of a freely available VRRP implementation? I looked
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Robert L. Bostic wrote:

> I am attempting to cvsup over a dial-up connection. I get the following error
> message:
>> Praetorian# cvsup stable-supfile 
>> Cannot get IP address of my own host -- is its hostname correct?
> I know I can't be the first to encounter this problem. How can I correct this?

Well, I don't know how the message could be made any clearer...
You need an entry for your hostname (as reported by `hostname`) in
/etc/hosts or in DNS, e.g.

127.0.0.1	my.hostname.example.com localhost

or something.

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Nader Turki wrote:
> 
> hi guys,
> i was doing upgrading a machine from 4.0-release to 4.0-stable
> anyway, while i was doing make world ... the machine went offline. i'm not
> sure why, it's either of the power, or maybe the owner rebooted the machine.
> i just called the isp and they said on the prompt it says boot: i guess and
> there's a msg that says no kernel and no nsf. can someone tell me how can i
> get the machine back online?

Prepare boot floppies (incl. fixit floppy), optionally take with you CD
with FreeBSD and go to client...

Maybe good fsck will help you, maybe you'll have to backup configuration
files and reinstall OS.

IMO you can face following problems on site:
	- damaged file system;
	- corrupted/absent kernel;
	- problem with boot loader.

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On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:16:56AM +0100, Ben Smithurst wrote:
> Robert L. Bostic wrote:
> 
> > I am attempting to cvsup over a dial-up connection. I get the
> > following error message:
> >> Praetorian# cvsup stable-supfile Cannot get IP address of my own
> >> host -- is its hostname correct?
> > I know I can't be the first to encounter this problem. How can I
> > correct this?
> 
> Well, I don't know how the message could be made any clearer...  You
> need an entry for your hostname (as reported by `hostname`) in
> /etc/hosts or in DNS, e.g.
> 
> 127.0.0.1	my.hostname.example.com localhost
> 
> or something.

I thought the correct way was to have something like

ifconfig_lo0_alias0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffffff"

in /etc/rc.conf

and a hosts file like

127.0.0.1               localhost.turnip.org.uk localhost
10.0.0.1                mashed.turnip.org.uk mashed

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As I recall, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> If I'm not mistaken, the IR feature of the Palm (at least
> the Palm III) isn't even Irda, but some proprietary stuff.

Later versions of PalmOS (3.3 and above, IIRC) changed to IrDA.

So, you can print to those HP printers, use your Nokia cell phone as
a modem, etc.

	-crl
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> Hi all
> 
> I'm using mylex AcceleRAID 150 and works fine.
> But I don't know how I will know the status of
> each HDD,such as "online","hot spare","NG" etc.
> 
> I think `mlxcontrol status' can do this.
> but only show following...
> 
> # mlxcontrol status mlxd0
> mlxcontrol: couldn't get controller/drive for /dev/mlxd0
> mlxd0: online
> #
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.

Check that you have created /dev/mlx0 as well as the nodes for /dev/mlxd0.

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On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 09:35:37AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <20000803231034.K3777@netizen.com.au> Benno Rice writes:
> : Well it's on mine, but I'm a way off yet.  I hope to make some significant
> : progress this weekend, which may or may not result in a vaguely functional
> : IrLAP netgraph node.  Then I need to write an IrLMP node, a TinyTP node and
> : an IrCOMM node.  Then you'll be able to HotSync, assuming your laptop's IR
> : port shows up as a serial device. =)
> 
> Personally, I'd love to be able to use the IRda port since it is
> faster than the serial port on my WinCE machines.  However, I have
> less than zero time for this.  Buying an ethernet card fixed this
> problem (which really was a problem on how to get netbsd boot images
> to the wince machine, but I digress).

Heh. =)
 
> Even if we have irda support in the kernel, hotsync takes an
> additional protocol layer, kinda like FTP but not really.  It is the
> same as having IP but no ftpd I guess is what I'm trying to say.
> Microsoft doesn't document the hotsync protocol at all :-(.

/usr/ports/palm has a lot of stuff that implements the HotSync protocol.
My intention was for IrCOMM connections to show up as a tty-like device,
which means that you just point one of those at /dev/ttyi0 or somesuch. =)

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well, the complete story is:
1. i had 3.4 on the compaq which had the old ida driver (stealing the wd
name).
2. i followed the UPDATING procedure to move to 4.1 - with no problem (just
had to change the fstab to use the new idad device name).
3. later on i added couple of disks and used the ACU to create another
logical drive (idad1)
4. i tried to use /stand/sysinstall to fdisk/disklabel it, but it did not
recognize any of the idad devices, so i went ahead and fixed sysinstall.
maybe the sysinstall under /stand is different from the one on the
installation media??!
have you used sysinstall on your system?

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> I've got Compaq DL360s with the Integrated Smart
> RAID adapters and support was added to 4.0-STABLE
> on June 2nd.  I was able to use the June 2nd
> snapshot of 4.0-STABLE and it installed fine.
>
> Have you run the configuration utility and created
> the RAID volume?
>
>
> Barak Enat wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > don't know if this is helpfull, but i had to add the
> > following two lines to
> > /usr/src/release/sysinstall/devices.c and recompile
> > sysinstall, so it will recognize the idad disks for
> > fdisk/disklabel operations.
> >
> >     { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK,         "idad%d",
> > "Compaq SMART RAID adapter",    29, 65538, 8, 16, 'b'
> >  },
> >     { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK,         "ridad%d",
> > "Compaq SMART RAID adapter",    109, 65538, 8, 16, 'c'
> >  },
> >
> > seems odd, as at some point i think i read that 4.1
> > installation supports the smart raid devices out of
> > the box (i.e. both in kernel and sysinstall)...
> >
> > barak
> >
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[I've been reading via the archive, let's see if I can post without
subscribing to the actual list...]

First - Benno, you might want to look at
http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/driver-info.phtml?ID=4 and see if Martin
is doing anything with his IRDA driver project.  Maybe it will save you some
work, though offhand your two approaches sound different to me.

Second - is it worth having?  I think the answer to that is if the FreeBSD
folks want tech types - those folks already running FreeBSD on servers - to be
able to use F as a replacement for W, then support for things like IRDA are
good to have.

Third - thanks to all of the contributors for all of the great work.  I've
been running FreeBSD since around 1995, currently on two servers and a laptop,
and it's great.  Recent (4.x) work lets me use it as a nearly complete
replacement for Win9x, what with the linux emulation, vmware port, ICA client
port, Star Office and so on.

                                \scott



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On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 09:51:09AM +0800, Scott Hazen Mueller wrote:
> [I've been reading via the archive, let's see if I can post without
> subscribing to the actual list...]
> 
> First - Benno, you might want to look at
> http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/driver-info.phtml?ID=4 and see if Martin
> is doing anything with his IRDA driver project.  Maybe it will save you some
> work, though offhand your two approaches sound different to me.

I saw that a while back, although I haven't got in contact yet. (Mea culpa)
 
> Second - is it worth having?  I think the answer to that is if the FreeBSD
> folks want tech types - those folks already running FreeBSD on servers - to be
> able to use F as a replacement for W, then support for things like IRDA are
> good to have.

I think it's a nice thing to have.  I'm writing it because I'd like to be
able to communicate with my Palm, but I could also see possibilities in
other areas.
 
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In message <20000804104607.A3266@netizen.com.au> Benno Rice writes:
: /usr/ports/palm has a lot of stuff that implements the HotSync protocol.
: My intention was for IrCOMM connections to show up as a tty-like device,
: which means that you just point one of those at /dev/ttyi0 or somesuch. =)

Ah.  The HotSync protocol yes (that being the protocol for Palm).  I
misspoke and should have said the ActiveSync protocol from MS isn't
documented. 

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On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 08:25:18PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <20000804104607.A3266@netizen.com.au> Benno Rice writes:
> : /usr/ports/palm has a lot of stuff that implements the HotSync protocol.
> : My intention was for IrCOMM connections to show up as a tty-like device,
> : which means that you just point one of those at /dev/ttyi0 or somesuch. =)
> 
> Ah.  The HotSync protocol yes (that being the protocol for Palm).  I
> misspoke and should have said the ActiveSync protocol from MS isn't
> documented. 

Ah.  Yes.  Funny, that. =)

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Hello,
 I am using an MD-based /tmp.  This defaults to 20000 sectors, or 10
megs.  According to LINT and to md(4), I can change this by compiling

options         MD_NSECT=300000

into my kernel for a 150-meg /tmp.  But I have done so, and it seems to
make no difference.  I must be missing something.

% uname -a
FreeBSD narcissus.net 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Thu Aug  3
16:58:39 EDT 2000     ben@narcissus.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NARCISSUS
i386
% grep -i md NARCISSUS
options         MD_NSECT=300000
pseudo-device   md

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Hi Mike and Thomas,

Thanks for your advice.

I could get each drive status.(like following..)

I think it is very cool! Thanks Mike.

#mlxcontrol status -v mlxd0
mlxd0: critical [consistency check: 33827328/35831808, 5% complete]

# mlxcontrol config mlx0
# Controller <INSERT DETAILS HERE>
#
# Physical devices connected:
# disk0000  (online)
#    'IBM     ' 'DNES-309170Y    ' 'SA30' 8748MB  fast20 wide sync tag-enabled
# disk0001  (write-only)
#    'IBM     ' 'DNES-309170Y    ' 'SA30' 8748MB  fast20 wide sync tag-enabled
# disk0002  (dead)
#    <IDENTIFY FAILED> 8748MB  wide

:snip:


At 00/08/04 09:20, Mike Smith wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I'm using mylex AcceleRAID 150 and works fine.
> > But I don't know how I will know the status of
> > each HDD,such as "online","hot spare","NG" etc.

> Check that you have created /dev/mlx0 as well as the nodes for /dev/mlxd0.
> 

At 00/08/04 01:51, thomas@hentschel.net wrote:

> cd /dev && ./MAKEDEV mlxd0 (or mlx0 ? -- sorry, forgot :)
> 
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Ben Hacker Jr wrote:
> 
> Hello all...
> 
> I built a router about six months back and it has been
> 
> working pretty good except that sometimes I will lose
> connectivity to the subnet on one of the ports (ep2).
> 
> I lost connectivity again today and tried to figure
> out what
> was going wrong.  I don't know how to tell if it is
> caused
> by hardware or my configuration.

Same problem with "ep" drivers:
- 4x3com579(EISA) in i486DX50
- 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD
- cured "ifconfig down/up"
I suppose a ethernet problems
Problems disapear when I disconnect new station with unnamed network
card

> 
>                                10Mb      100Mb
>                               +---------------+
>               10.44.17.062/27=|ep0 FreeBSD    |
>               10.44.17.126/27=|ep1 Router
> xl0|=10.44.25.250/30
>               10.44.17.222/27=|ep2            |
>                               +---------------+
> me@FBSD_Router1$ uname -a
> FreeBSD FBSD_Router1 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #2:
> Fri Mar 17 11
> :42:33 EST 2000
> me@FBSD_Router1:/usr/src/sys/compile/Router1-4  i386
> me@FBSD_Router1$
> 
>      network_interfaces="xl0 ep2 ep1 ep0 lo0"
>      ifconfig_xl0="inet  10.44.25.250    netmask
> 255.255.255.252"
>      ifconfig_ep2="inet  10.44.17.222    netmask
> 255.255.255.224"
>      ifconfig_ep1="inet  10.44.17.126    netmask
> 255.255.255.224"
>      ifconfig_ep0="inet  10.44.17.62     netmask
> 255.255.255.224"
>      defaultrouter="10.44.25.249"
> 
> After logging into the router from the ep1 subnet I
> tried to ping
> out to all the subnets.  The results are listed below:
> 
> me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.38
> PING 10.44.17.38 (10.44.17.38): 56 data bytes
>        VIA ep0
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128
> time=1.114 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128
> time=0.645 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128
> time=0.594 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128
> time=0.596 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128
> time=0.617 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128
> time=0.611 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=6 ttl=128
> time=0.613 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.38: icmp_seq=7 ttl=128
> time=0.608 ms
> 
> me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.105
> PING 10.44.17.105 (10.44.17.105): 56 data bytes
>        VIA ep1
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128
> time=0.722 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128
> time=0.600 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128
> time=0.587 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128
> time=0.610 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.105: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128
> time=0.578 ms
> 
> me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.200
>        VIA ep2
> ping: sendto: No buffer space available
> ping: sendto: No buffer space available
> ping: sendto: No buffer space available
> ping: sendto: No buffer space available   (Apparently
> this is the problem.)
> ping: sendto: No buffer space available
> ping: sendto: No buffer space available
> ping: sendto: No buffer space available
> 
> me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.12.150
> PING 10.44.12.150 (10.44.12.150): 56 data bytes
>        VIA xl0
> 64 bytes from 10.44.12.150: icmp_seq=0 ttl=254
> time=1.629 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.12.150: icmp_seq=1 ttl=254
> time=1.754 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.12.150: icmp_seq=2 ttl=254
> time=1.665 ms
> 
> I had found in the past that if I down the adapter ep2
> and brought
> it back up again the communications would resume so
> that is what
> the shellscript "updown2" does.
> 
> me@FBSD_Router1$ su root -c updown2
> Password:
> ep2: flags=8c02<BROADCAST,OACTIVE,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST>
> mtu 1500
>         inet 10.44.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast
> 10.44.17.223
>         inet 10.54.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast
> 10.54.17.223
>         ether 00:a0:24:23:70:cc
> ep2:
> flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu
> 1500
>         inet 10.44.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast
> 10.44.17.223
>         inet 10.54.17.222 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast
> 10.54.17.223
>         ether 00:a0:24:23:70:cc
> 
> Once I bring the adapter down and back up again it
> apparently
> functions fine (for a while at least. See below.)
> What should I
> do now??
> Replace the adapter?
> Make some configuration change for that adapter in my
> Kernel?
> Update to v3.5?  (The last time I cvsup'ed was prior
> to the
> router going online for real work.)
> Or... What other config file do you want to see?
> 
> me@FBSD_Router1$ ping 10.44.17.200
> PING 10.44.17.200 (10.44.17.200): 56 data bytes
>        VIA ep2
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128
> time=0.641 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128
> time=0.588 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128
> time=0.568 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128
> time=0.591 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128
> time=0.575 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.44.17.200: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128
> time=0.566 ms
> ^C
> --- 10.44.17.200 ping statistics ---
> 6 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 0% packet
> loss
> round-trip min/avg/max/stddev =
> 0.566/0.588/0.641/0.025 ms
> me@FBSD_Router1$
> 
> =====
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 	I just updated my XFree from 4.0 to 4.0.1 in order
to check PR ports/20360 concerning rxvt and I noticed a
strange behavior.
	If I change to a text console (alt-f[1-9]) while
using X; when I do get back, the mouse is unavailable though
I can use it in my text ttyv[0-7]. I have to shutdown the
X session and restart it to get the mouse back.
	Everything was fine till I "updated" my X from
4.0 to 4.0.1. That is the only change, last nights
for that matter.
	I am running a 4.1 STABLE as of 01/08/2000
(last tuesday) with X 4.0.1, KDE 1.1.2 and moused
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	Anyone has seen this too?

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Are there plans (or is there currently) to do OpenBSD style
bridge0 interfaces to allow bridging to be integrated easier 
into diffrent utilities?

Currently I use IPFilter but have no way to work with bridged 
packets.

I won't want to switch to IPFW as it does not have all the 
filter and nat rules that I need.

It would be nice if bridging and diverting were done via bridge#
and divert# interfaces.. but I assume that is not something that
is easy to fix?

Not trying to flame, but should I consider using OpenBSD instead
if my needs are IPFilter and bridging?

Thanks!

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On 2000-Aug-03 15:20:02 -0700, Tom <tom@uniserve.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Peter Jeremy wrote:
>> Not quite.  softupdates is actually more robust than a normal FS
>> mount (and far more robust than async).

>  Not likely.  I personally pushed softupdates over the edge before (see
>archives).  In my case, the amount of unwritten metadata filled up all
>kernel space.  The filesystem was recoverable, but fsck filled up
>lost+found several times (that should be considered a fsck bug that wasn't
>possible to expose without softupdates). It was rather messy.

That definitely is (or was) a bug in softupdates - it's not supposed
to behave that way.

I presume you're referring to the postmark test you were running last
December on 3.4-STABLE.  Looking at the CVS logs, the core softupdates
code would have been 1.34.2.3, which is now nearly a year old.  Have
you tried repeating your tests on a more version of softupdates
(5-CURRENT or 4-STABLE)?  It looks like Kirk doesn't MFC many of the
changes he makes in -CURRENT, but there were are a lot of softupdates
fixes in 4-STABLE compared to 3-STABLE.  (From what I can see, there
has only been one real bugfix in -CURRENT since 4-STABLE branched -
that related to a panic if user quotas were exceeded).

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On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:38:08AM +0100, Jonathan Vaughan wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:16:56AM +0100, Ben Smithurst wrote:
> > Robert L. Bostic wrote:
> > 
> > > I am attempting to cvsup over a dial-up connection. I get the
> > > following error message:
> > >> Praetorian# cvsup stable-supfile Cannot get IP address of my own
> > >> host -- is its hostname correct?
> > > I know I can't be the first to encounter this problem. How can I
> > > correct this?
> > 
> > Well, I don't know how the message could be made any clearer...  You
> > need an entry for your hostname (as reported by `hostname`) in
> > /etc/hosts or in DNS, e.g.
> > 
> > 127.0.0.1	my.hostname.example.com localhost
> > 
> > or something.
> 
> I thought the correct way was to have something like
> 
> ifconfig_lo0_alias0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffffff"

This is not the correct way. This is a Bad Idea. Don't give the
loopback any address but 127.0.0.1.

> and a hosts file like
> 
> 127.0.0.1               localhost.turnip.org.uk localhost
> 10.0.0.1                mashed.turnip.org.uk mashed

This is fine, but remember that 'hosts' has to appear in /etc/host.conf
for the /etc/hosts file to be referenced.
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On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:04 -0400, Nader Turki wrote:
> So the way it works is:
> - cvsup
> - cd /usr/src
> - make world
> - make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
> - make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
> - reboot
> 
> is that it?

Not quite (it may work, but I wouldn't do it this way).  "make
world" will include buildworld as well as installworld.  So the
later steps run with an old kernel and a new world.  Minimize
this window of inconsistency by rearrangement:

update sources
make buildworld
make buildkernel
make installkernel
make installworld
mergemaster(!)

BTW  the list archive is full with these threads.  Especially
since the "HEADS UP!" for the binutils upgrade and the therefor
suggested buildkernel procedure.  You can find a whole lot of
proven rulesets for updating there.


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At Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:39:21 -0300, "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" wrote:
>  	I just updated my XFree from 4.0 to 4.0.1 in order
> to check PR ports/20360 concerning rxvt and I noticed a
> strange behavior.
> 	If I change to a text console (alt-f[1-9]) while
> using X; when I do get back, the mouse is unavailable though
> I can use it in my text ttyv[0-7]. I have to shutdown the
> X session and restart it to get the mouse back.
> 	Everything was fine till I "updated" my X from
> 4.0 to 4.0.1. That is the only change, last nights
> for that matter.
> 	I am running a 4.1 STABLE as of 01/08/2000
> (last tuesday) with X 4.0.1, KDE 1.1.2 and moused
> with no mouse flags. My "mouse" is a Logitech
> TrackMan Marble FX.
> 	Anyone has seen this too?

Yes and the solution was to change the mouse protocol in the XF86Config file
from 'auto' to 'Mousesystems'.

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "Mousesystems"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/mouse"
EndSection

This was disscused in -current a few day ago.

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I've had a lot of requests for something to be done about this, and I've 
finally gotten a few minutes to make it happen.

The fix for this has been committed to -stable, and there's a kit for
4.1-RELEASE users wanting to install on these adapters at 
http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/mylex/mlx2_patchkit.tar.gz

Note that this has only been lightly tested; the changes don't affect 
other adapters, but I don't have one of these adapters to test with 
directly (all my v2.x adapters have memory windows).  I have two success 
reports already though, and I'd like to hear a few more.

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On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:18:12PM -0500, Henry F. Marquardt wrote:
> I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem.
> Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I remember some of
> the early marketing hype there with people swapping IR business cards - I
> don't think I've ever seen anyone do that 

Do it all the time.

> and I don't think I could figure
> out how in any reasonable amount of time with mine - it'd be quicker to
> scribble on a napkin.

Being able to sync my Palm pilot with my Vaio using IR would be *very* nice.
One less set of cables to have to carry around with me.

> Same with my laptop, it was configured as com2 and as far as I was concerned
> just taking up IRQ space - I turned it off when I put FBSD on there.
> Doesn't mean you should play with it, but what are you going to *use* it
> for?

There are a bunch of mobile phones out here with built in modems.  Point 
the phone at the computer and suddenly (in Windows) you've got a modem
attached to COM2 (or whatever) -- again, without needing the additional
cabling.  This is a good thing.

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On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:24:36PM -0700, Crist J . Clark wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:38:08AM +0100, Jonathan Vaughan wrote:
> > I thought the correct way was to have something like
> > 
> > ifconfig_lo0_alias0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffffff"
> 
> This is not the correct way. This is a Bad Idea. Don't give the
> loopback any address but 127.0.0.1.

That just being an alias for the loopbaak device.  I also have
ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1".

Trawling through the mailing list archives, this was advised as what
should be done.  in linux I would set up a dummy interface for the IP
address.

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			-- Andrew.

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, jack wrote:

> Today H . S . YOON wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S?
> 
> A buildworld of 4.1-RELEASE on a 3.5-RELEASE box worked for me.
> I haven't installed it yet.

Buildworld (sources approx. 4.1-RC2, system - 3.5-STABLE) worked for me
too, but when I made installworld it fails with Signal 12 in the middle of
process. Subsequent runs of make installworld cause immediate failure
with message obout LC_CTIME!=... (sorry, don't remember details). I'm sure
this is not a hardware issue because it happens on two different boxes
(not overclocked)

P.S. I know about src/UPDATING ;-).

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I had a similar experience with 3.4-s to 4.x-s, however, mine was simply
cause by me not reading /usr/src/UPDATING, after reading that I had no
problems...

(although I actually recovered that machine without reinstalling after
using /stand/sysinstall as my shell, when nothing else would load
anymore, then following the instructions correctly got it all back)

Andrew

On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Andrew L. Neporada wrote:

> 
> 
> 			-- Andrew.
> 
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, jack wrote:
> 
> > Today H . S . YOON wrote:
> > 
> > > Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S?
> > 
> > A buildworld of 4.1-RELEASE on a 3.5-RELEASE box worked for me.
> > I haven't installed it yet.
> 
> Buildworld (sources approx. 4.1-RC2, system - 3.5-STABLE) worked for me
> too, but when I made installworld it fails with Signal 12 in the middle of
> process. Subsequent runs of make installworld cause immediate failure
> with message obout LC_CTIME!=... (sorry, don't remember details). I'm sure
> this is not a hardware issue because it happens on two different boxes
> (not overclocked)
> 
> P.S. I know about src/UPDATING ;-).
> 
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Hi,

You just have to fall in love with open source software. :) I used freshmeat.net
to look for VRRP and found this site.

http://w3.arobas.net/~jetienne/vrrpd/index.html

It seems to only run on Linux for the moment. It is a userspace app so maybe
getting it to work on something else might not be too difficult. 

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:40:06PM -0400, Chris Shenton wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:22:44 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl <gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch> said:
> 
> 
> Gabriel> Eddie's feature list looks pretty impressive but what happens
> Gabriel> if the load balancing box itself crashes?
> 
> Is anyone aware of a freely available VRRP implementation? I looked
> about 6 months ago and didn't see anything. Seems like it would be
> handy for balancers as well as firewalls.

Best Regards
Willem Brown

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On  3 Aug, Ben Hacker Jr wrote:
= Hello all...
= 
= I built a router about six months back and it has been
= 
= working pretty good except that sometimes I will lose 
= connectivity to the subnet on one of the ports (ep2). 

When I was  getting this crap from the ep-driver  (about daily) I
put  in a  cron job  to ``ifconfig  ep2 down;  sleep 1;  ifconfig
ep1''. Nobody appears to care enough for the driver to fix it :-(

	-mi




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I used the sysinstall from the June 2nd snapshot.  The DL360
can't boot the freebsd CD so I created the two floppy set
to install with.  I did use the sysinstall on the floppies.

The dmesg identifies the device as:

ida0: <NCR/Compaq Integrated Array Controller> port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xc4000000-0xc4ffffff,0xc5000000-0xc5ffffff irq 3 at device 1.0 on pci0
ida0: drives=1 firm_rev=1.40

sysinstall detected this device just fine.....

Barak Enat wrote:
> 
> well, the complete story is:
> 1. i had 3.4 on the compaq which had the old ida driver (stealing the wd
> name).
> 2. i followed the UPDATING procedure to move to 4.1 - with no problem (just
> had to change the fstab to use the new idad device name).
> 3. later on i added couple of disks and used the ACU to create another
> logical drive (idad1)
> 4. i tried to use /stand/sysinstall to fdisk/disklabel it, but it did not
> recognize any of the idad devices, so i went ahead and fixed sysinstall.
> maybe the sysinstall under /stand is different from the one on the
> installation media??!
> have you used sysinstall on your system?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Edmonds" <aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com>
> To: "Barak Enat" <barak_enat@yahoo.com>
> Cc: <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 10:45 PM
> Subject: Re: sysinstall and compaq smart raid disks (idad)
> 
> > I've got Compaq DL360s with the Integrated Smart
> > RAID adapters and support was added to 4.0-STABLE
> > on June 2nd.  I was able to use the June 2nd
> > snapshot of 4.0-STABLE and it installed fine.
> >
> > Have you run the configuration utility and created
> > the RAID volume?
> >
> >
> > Barak Enat wrote:
> > >
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > don't know if this is helpfull, but i had to add the
> > > following two lines to
> > > /usr/src/release/sysinstall/devices.c and recompile
> > > sysinstall, so it will recognize the idad disks for
> > > fdisk/disklabel operations.
> > >
> > >     { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK,         "idad%d",
> > > "Compaq SMART RAID adapter",    29, 65538, 8, 16, 'b'
> > >  },
> > >     { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK,         "ridad%d",
> > > "Compaq SMART RAID adapter",    109, 65538, 8, 16, 'c'
> > >  },
> > >
> > > seems odd, as at some point i think i read that 4.1
> > > installation supports the smart raid devices out of
> > > the box (i.e. both in kernel and sysinstall)...
> > >
> > > barak
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I thank you for the advise.  That fixed the problem. Seems it was somewhere 
around a million or so seconds off....figures.  But again...Thank you

Thanks,
Don

At 02:00 PM 8/2/00 -0400, Vinesh Christopher wrote:
>This happened for me also.
>It is due to the date/time of the system set incorrectly.
>Check you system date/time and correct it.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Zombie [SMTP:zombie@isni.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 1:48 PM
> > To:   freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> > Subject:      Re: BuildWorld Fails....Please Advise
> >
> > A correction.....The error is still
> > mkdir: build: File exists
> > This is while compiling libperl.
> > When I looked at the file that I redirected the buildworld to it didn't
> > show.
> > As a note I am running an stock install of freebsd 4.0 Release.  I cvsup'd
> > several times (once before each buildworld)
> >
> > At 08:59 AM 8/2/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >               I have been trying to buildworld for about a week now.  I
> > was getting a file exists error during libperl compile but after makeing
> > clean and deleting the /usr/obj I now get this
> >
>
> >
> >
> >       Sorry if that was too much.  Personally I am fairly new at this but
> > I have had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything.  If you
> > need a full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply.  Can you
> > please advise as to what can fix this.
> >
> >       Thanks,
> >       Don
> >
> >



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    (Definitely not for the easily-offended!)

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On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Alexander wrote:

> Ben Hacker Jr wrote:
> > 
> > Hello all...
> > 
> > I built a router about six months back and it has been
> > 
> > working pretty good except that sometimes I will lose
> > connectivity to the subnet on one of the ports (ep2).
> > 
> > I lost connectivity again today and tried to figure
> > out what
> > was going wrong.  I don't know how to tell if it is
> > caused
> > by hardware or my configuration.
> 
> Same problem with "ep" drivers:
> - 4x3com579(EISA) in i486DX50
> - 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD
> - cured "ifconfig down/up"
> I suppose a ethernet problems
> Problems disapear when I disconnect new station with unnamed network
> card

    Do these problems happen during thunderstorms, perchance?

    One of my coworkers recently turned me on to the fact that the
ethernet standard requires that the NICs, and all components of the
network, be properly grounded (no, not just to the box chassis) to be
reliable.  Of course, no one really does this, and most of the time
you can get away without it, but sometimes you can't.

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My fix to this was to rm rf contrib/perl, CVSup, and build again, and this
time it worked.

Jonathan Fosburgh
Open Systems
Communications and Computer Services
UT MD Anderson Cancer Center
Houston, TX 77030
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> I thank you for the advise.  That fixed the problem. Seems it was
somewhere
> around a million or so seconds off....figures.  But again...Thank you
>
> Thanks,
> Don
>
> At 02:00 PM 8/2/00 -0400, Vinesh Christopher wrote:
> >This happened for me also.
> >It is due to the date/time of the system set incorrectly.
> >Check you system date/time and correct it.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Zombie [SMTP:zombie@isni.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 1:48 PM
> > > To:   freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> > > Subject:      Re: BuildWorld Fails....Please Advise
> > >
> > > A correction.....The error is still
> > > mkdir: build: File exists
> > > This is while compiling libperl.
> > > When I looked at the file that I redirected the buildworld to it
didn't
> > > show.
> > > As a note I am running an stock install of freebsd 4.0 Release.  I
cvsup'd
> > > several times (once before each buildworld)
> > >
> > > At 08:59 AM 8/2/00 -0400, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >               I have been trying to buildworld for about a week now.
I
> > > was getting a file exists error during libperl compile but after
makeing
> > > clean and deleting the /usr/obj I now get this
> > >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >       Sorry if that was too much.  Personally I am fairly new at this
but
> > > I have had the help of my sys-admin and we can't find anything.  If
you
> > > need a full transcript of the buildworld I am able to supply.  Can you
> > > please advise as to what can fix this.
> > >
> > >       Thanks,
> > >       Don
> > >
> > >
>
>
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On  4 Aug, Chris BeHanna wrote:
=     (Definitely not for the easily-offended!)
= 
=     http://www.zbzoom.net/~behanna/takeittux.jpg
= 
=     :-)

This is the second  time this stupid picture is popping  up on this list
alone.  Some  other  misguided  yet  BSD-liking fellow  sent  it  to  me
personally about  two weeks ago  as well. I  think, this shames  the BSD
camp and should  be frowned upon and/or flamed to  net.death. Cutely (if
you find rape to be cute) offensive  pictures are NOT why *BSD is better
-- just like no  amount of cute penguins  should affect one's opinion of
Linux.

	-mi (I guess, I'm easily offended, who would expect?..)




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On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Crist J . Clark wrote:

> > I thought the correct way was to have something like
> > 
> > ifconfig_lo0_alias0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffffff"
> 
> This is not the correct way. This is a Bad Idea. Don't give the
> loopback any address but 127.0.0.1.

  That is an alias address by the way.  Assigning alias addresses to lo0
is perfectly ok thing to do.

> > and a hosts file like
> > 
> > 127.0.0.1               localhost.turnip.org.uk localhost
> > 10.0.0.1                mashed.turnip.org.uk mashed
> 
> This is fine, but remember that 'hosts' has to appear in /etc/host.conf
> for the /etc/hosts file to be referenced.
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.com
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> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 06:34:18 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Chris BeHanna <behanna@zbzoom.net>
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> 
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Alexander wrote:
> 
> > Ben Hacker Jr wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello all...
> > > 
> > > I built a router about six months back and it has been
> > > 
> > > working pretty good except that sometimes I will lose
> > > connectivity to the subnet on one of the ports (ep2).
> > > 
> > > I lost connectivity again today and tried to figure
> > > out what
> > > was going wrong.  I don't know how to tell if it is
> > > caused
> > > by hardware or my configuration.
> > 
> > Same problem with "ep" drivers:
> > - 4x3com579(EISA) in i486DX50
> > - 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD
> > - cured "ifconfig down/up"
> > I suppose a ethernet problems
> > Problems disapear when I disconnect new station with unnamed network
> > card
> 
>     Do these problems happen during thunderstorms, perchance?
> 
>     One of my coworkers recently turned me on to the fact that the
> ethernet standard requires that the NICs, and all components of the
> network, be properly grounded (no, not just to the box chassis) to be
> reliable.  Of course, no one really does this, and most of the time
> you can get away without it, but sometimes you can't.

Could provide a citation for this. I can't find this anywhere in my
copy of 802.3. Of course, it's a rather thick document and I could
have missed something, but grounding is something that Ethernet was
deliberately designed to NOT require.

The spec does call for medium grounding for 10Base5 and allows for it
(but does not require it) for 10Base2, but that's about it. There is
full electrical isolation and transformer coupling of most signals
including DC-to-DC converters for power supplies just to make SURE
that the external parts of the system (MAU and medium) are floating
with respect to one another. (The medium grounding requirement for
10Base5 are safety related and result from the possibility that the
terminating equipment on these rather long runs might be connected to
different power systems.)

The only references to 'earthing' I could find refer to chassis ground
and all of the grounding requirements are in parts of the spec not
relevant to twisted-pair networks.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
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mi@aldan.algebra.com probably said:
> This is the second  time this stupid picture is popping  up on this list
> alone.  Some  other  misguided  yet  BSD-liking fellow  sent  it  to  me
> personally about  two weeks ago  as well. I  think, this shames  the BSD
> camp and should  be frowned upon and/or flamed to  net.death. Cutely (if

On another front, it also breaks the copyright agreement Kirk McK. has
on the image of the beastie. Not a good idea.

P.

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On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote:

> On  4 Aug, Chris BeHanna wrote:
> =     (Definitely not for the easily-offended!)
> = 
> =     http://www.zbzoom.net/~behanna/takeittux.jpg
> = 
> =     :-)
> 
> This is the second  time this stupid picture is popping  up on this list
> alone.  Some  other  misguided  yet  BSD-liking fellow  sent  it  to  me
> personally about  two weeks ago  as well. I  think, this shames  the BSD
> camp and should  be frowned upon and/or flamed to  net.death. Cutely (if
> you find rape to be cute) offensive  pictures are NOT why *BSD is better
> -- just like no  amount of cute penguins  should affect one's opinion of
> Linux.

Personally, I found the picture to be amusing.  However, I have a
different problem:  I follow this list in order to be able to track
-STABLE effectively.  The list has gone through some major jumps in terms
of volume lately, and I generally have to deal with about 50-100 emails a
day from other sources.  I'm not unique in this situation, I'm sure.

So I hate to be the one to ask this (especially since I'm neither the
list-owner nor a developer), but can we please stay on-topic here?  
freebsd-chat exists for this sort of thing.

-- 
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Fri Aug  4  9:43: 2 2000
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well,

i read discussion about topic and i have question
if is possible to do this:

i have one big server, so can i add one small 
and cross-connect them with serial cables
and then drive big server (in single mode)
from small server (to which i'll be connected
with ssh) ??? is it possible ?

give me some points, please, i have never tried it.

thank you

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On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 milan@centrum.cz wrote:

> well,
> 
> i read discussion about topic and i have question
> if is possible to do this:
> 
> i have one big server, so can i add one small 
> and cross-connect them with serial cables
> and then drive big server (in single mode)
> from small server (to which i'll be connected
> with ssh) ??? is it possible ?
> 
> give me some points, please, i have never tried it.
> 

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/serialcomms.html
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/term.html

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Fri Aug  4  9:50:29 2000
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On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote:

> mi@aldan.algebra.com probably said:
> > This is the second  time this stupid picture is popping  up on this list
> > alone.  Some  other  misguided  yet  BSD-liking fellow  sent  it  to  me
> > personally about  two weeks ago  as well. I  think, this shames  the BSD
> > camp and should  be frowned upon and/or flamed to  net.death. Cutely (if
> 
> On another front, it also breaks the copyright agreement Kirk McK. has
> on the image of the beastie. Not a good idea.

    Well, no, it doesn't.  Parody is protected speech.

    Whether or not it tickles your funnybone is another (personal)
matter.

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On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote:

> mi@aldan.algebra.com probably said:
> > This is the second  time this stupid picture is popping  up on this list
> > alone.  Some  other  misguided  yet  BSD-liking fellow  sent  it  to  me
> > personally about  two weeks ago  as well. I  think, this shames  the BSD
> > camp and should  be frowned upon and/or flamed to  net.death. Cutely (if
> 
> On another front, it also breaks the copyright agreement Kirk McK. has
> on the image of the beastie. Not a good idea.

    Well, no, it doesn't.  Parody is protected speech.

    Whether or not it tickles your funnybone is another (personal)
matter.

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Sorry I wasn't in a position to test this earlier, but the evidence
at hand indicates that the 1024-byte boot0 (as of 4.1-R); boot0.s
1.14.2.2) is failing for the machines we have been deploying for the last
couple of weeks for our engineers.  (I had deployed all of them so far
running 4.0-R; I was testing 4.1-S, since it had been working OK for me
on a couple of laptops, and apparently for a couple of these machines,
as well.)

The machines are IBM Intellistation M Pro Type 6868 with 128 MB RAM;
the failure was found on a dual-CPU (P3) 733MHz box.

To verify the failure, I loaded 4.1-R from a local mirror of the release
(from freebsd.org), specifying that the FreeBSD bootmanager should be
installed (in order to be able to select between either of a couple of
boot partitions).

An attempt to boot the resulting system results in an apparent "hang"
(with the status code in the upper right-hand corner of the screen
reading "7F", if the "Power On Status" option is selected at the BIOS
level).  There is no "menu" of boot partitions to select, and the hang
appears to require a power-cycle to break.

I was able to "un-break" the system (after doing the above) by booting
from the 4.1-R floppies, selecting "Fixit", assigning an IP address to
the box via ifconfig, using FTP to copy a 512-byte boot0 from another
machine's /boot/boot0, then

	fdisk -B -b ./boot0 ad0

("./boot0" being the copy of boot0 I had brought over via FTP.)


A subsequent re-boot brought up the familiar boot0 partition-selection
menu (and selecting F2, for the FreeBSD partition, booted normally).


I have motivation to assist in debugging the problem (some 20+ more
machines to load).  :-}  (I have a circumvention available -- involving
forcing the use of the old boot0 -- but this isn't a long-term option,
by any means.)

Please note:  this can create a "silent failure" of a rather insidious
kind:  One might start with a 4.0 system (and thus, the 512-byte boot0),
and through various upgrades, be running 4.1-S or even 5.x-C, and all
will be Just Fine... until the new boot0 is actually written to sector
0, at which point, you're in a singularly awkward position at next
reboot.

So:  how can I help fix this?

Thanks,
david
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Chris BeHanna <behanna@zbzoom.net> probably said:
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote:
> > On another front, it also breaks the copyright agreement Kirk McK. has
> > on the image of the beastie. Not a good idea.
> 
>     Well, no, it doesn't.  Parody is protected speech.

That doesn't look like parody to me, it looks like the abuse of a
copyrighted image.

It's not parodying the beastie, it's using it in a given situation.
Kirk specificly lists this type of abuse in his copyright page;

  http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html

>     Whether or not it tickles your funnybone is another (personal)
> matter.

and an irrelevant one.

Oh, and please fix your mail program so it either uses the To: or the
reply-to: and not both. Your reply to me went to the list twice.

P.

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In article <00080315210102.01468@Praetorian>, Robert L. Bostic
<robert42@swbell.net> wrote:

> I am attempting to cvsup over a dial-up connection. I get the
> following error message:
>
> > Praetorian# cvsup stable-supfile Cannot get IP address of my own
> > host -- is its hostname correct?
>
> I know I can't be the first to encounter this problem. How can I
> correct this?

It means that the hostname which you gave your system (i.e.,
the output of the "hostname" command) doesn't have a valid DNS
entry.  You can find more information in the CVSup FAQ, which is
at <http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/faq.html>.  See
question 30 (currently it's 30, anyway) "The CVSup client dies with a
segmentation violation when I try to use the GUI."  (Yes, I know the
question doesn't sound like it applies, but it's basically the same
problem.)

One easy way to work around this problem is to turn off the GUI with
the "-g" option.  The next release of CVSup (hopefully available
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> >     Do these problems happen during thunderstorms, perchance?
> > 
> >     One of my coworkers recently turned me on to the fact that the
> > ethernet standard requires that the NICs, and all components of the
> > network, be properly grounded (no, not just to the box chassis) to be
> > reliable.  Of course, no one really does this, and most of the time
> > you can get away without it, but sometimes you can't.
> 
> Could provide a citation for this. I can't find this anywhere in my
> copy of 802.3. Of course, it's a rather thick document and I could
> have missed something, but grounding is something that Ethernet was
> deliberately designed to NOT require.

I don't think you'll find this in 802.3, but perhaps in TIA-565
or TIA-606.  The unused pairs in CAT-5 cables should be AC grounded
to telco/chassis ground to minimize crosstalk, RFI/EMI and EMP reception/
transmission.  If you look on most NIC cards you'll see that the
unused pairs are hook through 47pF (or there about) to ground.

> The spec does call for medium grounding for 10Base5 and allows for it
> (but does not require it) for 10Base2, but that's about it.

Anyone running Coax of any real length is a fool not to have it
properly gounded.  Without the ground it is one big antenna, and
in a lightning storm the EMP wave can induce 100's to 1000's of
volts on a long piece of ungrounded coax, especially something
as large as 10Base5.


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As I recall, Nik Clayton wrote:
> There are a bunch of mobile phones out here with built in modems.  Point 
> the phone at the computer and suddenly (in Windows) you've got a modem
> attached to COM2 (or whatever) -- again, without needing the additional
> cabling.  This is a good thing.

Of course, this is also the promise of Bluetooth, but with
spread-spectrum wireless instead of infared.

	-crl
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Did anyone experience problems with MP3 playback on SB Live card? I
hear annoying little peaks every second or so when I play MP3 using
amp or xmms on 4.1-STABLE and 5.0-CURRENT.

% cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Aug  3 2000 12:44:30
Installed devices:
pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> at io 0xd000 irq 9 (4p/3r channels duplex)

[The irq is *not* shared]

Moreover, I get these messages every time I start MP3 playback:

pcm0: dodgy irq: 1000000
pcm0: pci error

Can I somehow debug this problem. Is it hardware related? (the card
works just fine under Linux and Windows).

Thanks for any help.
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Mike Smith wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> >
> > I'm using mylex AcceleRAID 150 and works fine.
> > But I don't know how I will know the status of
> > each HDD,such as "online","hot spare","NG" etc.
> >
> > I think `mlxcontrol status' can do this.
> > but only show following...
> >
> > # mlxcontrol status mlxd0
> > mlxcontrol: couldn't get controller/drive for /dev/mlxd0
> > mlxd0: online
> > #
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Check that you have created /dev/mlx0 as well as the nodes for /dev/mlxd0.


Anything on the horizon for checking the status of an Ami Megaraid?

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Slawek Zak wrote:
> 
> Did anyone experience problems with MP3 playback on SB Live card? I
> hear annoying little peaks every second or so when I play MP3 using
> amp or xmms on 4.1-STABLE and 5.0-CURRENT.
> 
> % cat /dev/sndstat
> FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Aug  3 2000 12:44:30
> Installed devices:
> pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> at io 0xd000 irq 9 (4p/3r channels duplex)
> 
> [The irq is *not* shared]
> 
> Moreover, I get these messages every time I start MP3 playback:
> 
> pcm0: dodgy irq: 1000000
> pcm0: pci error
> 
> Can I somehow debug this problem. Is it hardware related? (the card
> works just fine under Linux and Windows).

This is a known problem, and has just cropped up with 4.1-RC at some
point..
I'm not aware of any fixes though (how recent is your stable? mine is
about
a week old so I'm not sure if anything has been done to date.)

	-mike


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"B. K. Minazzi" wrote:

> Anything on the horizon for checking the status of an Ami Megaraid?

Last time I asked (a few days ago) the required reference material was
unavailable. I understand Mike Smith is basically just waiting for AMI
to give him what he needs to implement such utils. 
	
	-mike


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Mike Muir <mmuir@es.co.nz> writes:

> This is a known problem, and has just cropped up with 4.1-RC at some
> point..  I'm not aware of any fixes though (how recent is your
> stable? mine is about a week old so I'm not sure if anything has
> been done to date.)

Mine is 2 days old. Good to hear it's a known problem. Thanks.
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On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 11:29:01PM +0000, B. K. Minazzi wrote:

> Anything on the horizon for checking the status of an Ami Megaraid?

From what I understand, AMI isn't playing nicely with documentation
to do that.

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In article <20000803154902.A470@equilibrate.net>,
Jascha Hoogenraad  <jascha@equilibrate.net> wrote:
> 
> www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error
> scsi0: fatal drive I/O error
> vinum: drive scsi0 is down
> vinum: mail.p0.s0 is crashed
> vinum: mail.p0 is faulty
> vinum: mail is down
> (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status =3D=3D 0x5b, scsi status=
>  =3D=3D 0x0
> (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack
> www.p0.s0: fatal write I/O error
> scsi0: fatal drive I/O error
[...]
> da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> da0: <SEAGATE ST318436LW 0005> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
> da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing En=
> abled
> da0: 17522MB (35885168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2233C)

I am not _sure_ this is your problem, but I think it probably is.
Some models of Seagate drives have a known firmware bug which causes
these symptoms.  You should try to get a firmware upgrade from Seagate
technical support.  Meanwhile, you can work around the problem by
disabling the write cache on the drive.  Use "camcontrol modepage ..."
to do that (see the man page for details).  The page you want to edit
is page 8, and it's the "WCE" flag that you want to turn off.

Caveat: Don't mistake me for a SCSI expert.  I got this info from
Justin Gibbs and it worked for me.

John
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Hello,
    I am receiving these errors when I try to do a 'make depend' inside the
/usr/src/sys/compile/TSUNAMI directory.  I have made sure to remove the
directory and do a new 'config TSUNAMI' from the
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/TSUNAMI directory.  Here is an output of my errors.

After a somewhat successful make depend it hangs on the below agp_if.c.

===> accf_data
@ -> /usr/src/sys
machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include
rm -f .depend
mkdep -f
.depend -a   -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/
usr/include  /usr/src/sys/modules/accf_data/../../netinet/accf_data.c
===> accf_http
@ -> /usr/src/sys
machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include
rm -f .depend
mkdep -f
.depend -a   -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/
usr/include  /usr/src/sys/modules/accf_http/../../netinet/accf_http.c
===> agp
@ -> /usr/src/sys
machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include
make: don't know how to make agp_if.c. Stop
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/TSUNAMI.
tsunami:/usr/src/sys/compile/TSUNAMI#

Any help would be greatly appreciated as well as different ways to fix this
without destroying my current installation.

Thanks Again.

PS: I have tried without avail to get my Initio ultrawide scsi controller
working with FreeBSD. It seems all the diff's are for 3.4, does anyone have
any ideas about when this chipset might be supported?  It looks like all the
framework is out there and would be merely a testing issue to get it working
in stable.  I would love to volunteer and see if someone can kludge up a
working diff.

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Robert Augustine wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>     I am receiving these errors when I try to do a 'make depend' inside the
> /usr/src/sys/compile/TSUNAMI directory.  I have made sure to remove the
> directory and do a new 'config TSUNAMI' from the
> /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/TSUNAMI directory.  Here is an output of my errors.
> 
> After a somewhat successful make depend it hangs on the below agp_if.c.

Did you read /usr/src/UPDATING before you began all of this. You can't
do a config and make depend unless you have done a "make world".
Otherwise, you have to follow the 

Make buildkernel KERNEL=TSUNAMI methodology.

Good Luck,

Kent

> 
> ===> accf_data
> @ -> /usr/src/sys
> machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include
> rm -f .depend
> mkdep -f
> .depend -a   -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/
> usr/include  /usr/src/sys/modules/accf_data/../../netinet/accf_data.c
> ===> accf_http
> @ -> /usr/src/sys
> machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include
> rm -f .depend
> mkdep -f
> .depend -a   -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/
> usr/include  /usr/src/sys/modules/accf_http/../../netinet/accf_http.c
> ===> agp
> @ -> /usr/src/sys
> machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include
> make: don't know how to make agp_if.c. Stop
> *** Error code 2
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/TSUNAMI.
> tsunami:/usr/src/sys/compile/TSUNAMI#
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated as well as different ways to fix this
> without destroying my current installation.
> 
> Thanks Again.
> 
> PS: I have tried without avail to get my Initio ultrawide scsi controller
> working with FreeBSD. It seems all the diff's are for 3.4, does anyone have
> any ideas about when this chipset might be supported?  It looks like all the
> framework is out there and would be merely a testing issue to get it working
> in stable.  I would love to volunteer and see if someone can kludge up a
> working diff.
> 
> Robert Augustine.
> 
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I am experiencing infrequent, spontaneous panics of a 4.0-STABLE
machine.  The reboots occur while the system is under light load.

When the panic occurs the following output is generated by a kernel
trap.  I have witnessed this on three occasions.  On the most recent
I bolted to the server and hit PAUSE to preserve the output long
enough to copy it verbatim.


ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
ata0: resetting devices .. done
ad0: timeout waiting for DRQad-106100774: soft error ECC corrected
ad-106100774: timeout waiting for DRQdevstat_end_transaction: HELP!!
busy count for (?CA1062206520 is < 0 (-1061721857)!

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address   = 0x60
fault code              = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer     = 0x8:0xc0173e8c
stack pointer           = 0x10:0xc0290aec
frame pointer           = 0x10:0xc0290b1c
code segment            = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
                        = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags        = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process         = Idle
interrupt mask          = bio
trap number             = 12
panic: page fault

syncing disks...


At this point the machine boots, fsck runs to clean up the disks and
the machine runs normally.  On each occasion the output began with:
`ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting'.  This makes me think the
problem is not related to faulty memory, but possibly a bad IDE disk
or a kernel bug.  Other than this problem the machine runs perfectly.

uname -a:

FreeBSD const. 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jul  1 21:46:49 MDT
2000
  allenc@pragma.:/usr/src/sys/compile/CONST  i386

My most recent STABLE update was performed to obtain fixes for the
TCP/IP ICMP bugs reported recently.

dmesg output:

Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jul  1 21:46:49 MDT 2000
    allenc@pragma.:/usr/src/sys/compile/CONST
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: AMD Am5x86 Write-Back (486-class CPU)
  Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x4f4  Stepping = 4
  Features=0x1<FPU>
real memory  = 67108864 (65536K bytes)
config> di psm0
config> en ed0
config> po ed0 0x300
config> ir ed0 11
config> iom ed0 0xd8000
config> f ed0 0
config> q
avail memory = 61964288 (60512K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0326000.
Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc032609c.
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <SiS 85c496> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pci0: <S3 ViRGE DX/GX graphics accelerator> at 11.0 irq 10
dc0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0x6000-0x60ff mem
0xf4000000-0xf40000ff irq 12 at device 13.0 on pci0
dc0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:54:e6:b9
miibus0: <MII bus> on dc0
ukphy0: <Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface> on miibus0
ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
ncr0: <ncr 53c810a fast10 scsi> port 0x6100-0x61ff mem
0xf4001000-0xf40010ff irq 12 at device 15.0 on pci0
ncr0: driver is using old-style compatability shims
isa0: <ISA bus> on motherboard
fdc0: <NEC 765 or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0
ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on
isa0
sc0: <System console> on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP
Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0:
ppbus0: <Hewlett-Packard HP LaserJet 2100 Series> PJL,MLC,PCL,PCLXL
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
ed0 at port 0x300-0x31f iomem 0xd8000 irq 11 drq 0 on isa0
ed0: address 00:80:29:67:e0:a3, type NE2000 (16 bit) 
IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding
disabled, default to deny, logging disabled
DUMMYNET initialized (000608)
ncp_load: [210-213]
IP Filter: initialized.  Default = pass all, Logging = disabled
IP Filter: v3.3.8
ad0: 6149MB <WDC AC26400B> [13328/15/63] at ata0-master using BIOSPIO
(null): MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done
ata1-master: no status, reselecting device
(null): read data overrun 29/1
(null): MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done
ata1-master: no status, reselecting device
(null): read data overrun 29/0
acd0: CDROM <CD-ROM CDR-S1> at ata1-master using BIOSPIO
Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
sa0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0
sa0: <HP T4000s 1.10> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
sa0: 3.300MB/s transfers
cd0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
cd0: <PLEXTOR CD-R   PX-W8220T 1.01> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device 
cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8)
cd0: cd present [320584 x 2048 byte records]
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a

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Hello,
    Thanks for all the emails concerning my issue.  It seems that after a
quick cvsup, and make world, then config <kernel file>, make depend, and
make my system is running perfect.  All compilation went fine without
errors.  I know wait on a new 61 gig drive and a scheduled reboot to see how
well this actually worked.  On a different note I was going to enable
softupdates however I can't remember where the readme file was with the
'tunefs' instructions to enable them.  Also does anyone have experience with
IDE drives and using soft updates, and on what file systems(ie. mounts) it
works the best.

Thanks Again.

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Chad R. Larson wrote:
>As I recall, Nik Clayton wrote:
>> There are a bunch of mobile phones out here with built in modems.  Point 
>> the phone at the computer and suddenly (in Windows) you've got a modem
>> attached to COM2 (or whatever) -- again, without needing the additional
>> cabling.  This is a good thing.

>Of course, this is also the promise of Bluetooth, but with
>spread-spectrum wireless instead of infared.

Bluetooth only gives you 1Mbps, IRDA will do up to 4Mbps. I have found
it to be more reliable than IRDA though, and obviously it works over
greater distances.

The phone manufacturers must have finalized their GPRS phone designs by
now. Since Bluetooth won't be usable in time, it would make sense for
them to continue to include IRDA.

In addition, you can't just hack together your own Bluetooth stack
and use it, you need to get it approved which is *very* expensive.
This is going to make it hard to produce a usable Open Source stack,
since the approval is for the stack/board/antenna combination.

I would say that there is still a window of 18-24 months where IRDA
support will be useful. After that, I would expect the UTMS phones to
become Bluetooth only.

Robert Swindells


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On Sat, 05 Aug 2000, Allen Campbell wrote:
> I am experiencing infrequent, spontaneous panics of a 4.0-STABLE
> machine.  The reboots occur while the system is under light load.
> 
> When the panic occurs the following output is generated by a kernel
> trap.  I have witnessed this on three occasions.  On the most recent
> I bolted to the server and hit PAUSE to preserve the output long
> enough to copy it verbatim.
> 
> 
> ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
> ata0: resetting devices .. done
> ad0: timeout waiting for DRQad-106100774: soft error ECC corrected
> ad-106100774: timeout waiting for DRQdevstat_end_transaction: HELP!!
> busy count for (?CA1062206520 is < 0 (-1061721857)!
> 
> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
> fault virtual address   = 0x60
> fault code              = supervisor read, page not present
> instruction pointer     = 0x8:0xc0173e8c
> stack pointer           = 0x10:0xc0290aec
> frame pointer           = 0x10:0xc0290b1c
> code segment            = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
>                         = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
> processor eflags        = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
> current process         = Idle
> interrupt mask          = bio
> trap number             = 12
> panic: page fault
> 
> syncing disks...
> 
> 
> At this point the machine boots, fsck runs to clean up the disks and
> the machine runs normally.  On each occasion the output began with:
> `ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting'.  This makes me think the
> problem is not related to faulty memory, but possibly a bad IDE disk
> or a kernel bug.  Other than this problem the machine runs perfectly.
> 
> uname -a:
> 
> FreeBSD const. 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jul  1 21:46:49 MDT
> 2000
>   allenc@pragma.:/usr/src/sys/compile/CONST  i386
> 
> My most recent STABLE update was performed to obtain fixes for the
> TCP/IP ICMP bugs reported recently.
> 
> dmesg output:
> 
------- snip ----------

My system suffered from the same problem, but on more recent cvsupdates the
problem disappeared.  Now running 4.1-STABLE as of 31 July.  Suggest you
upgrade.

Dave


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On Friday,  4 August 2000 at 11:59:24 +1000, Benno Rice wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 09:51:09AM +0800, Scott Hazen Mueller wrote:
>> [I've been reading via the archive, let's see if I can post without
>> subscribing to the actual list...]
>>
>> First - Benno, you might want to look at
>> http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/driver-info.phtml?ID=4 and see if Martin
>> is doing anything with his IRDA driver project.  Maybe it will save you some
>> work, though offhand your two approaches sound different to me.
>
> I saw that a while back, although I haven't got in contact yet. (Mea culpa)
>
>> Second - is it worth having?  I think the answer to that is if the FreeBSD
>> folks want tech types - those folks already running FreeBSD on servers - to be
>> able to use F as a replacement for W, then support for things like IRDA are
>> good to have.
>
> I think it's a nice thing to have.  I'm writing it because I'd like to be
> able to communicate with my Palm, but I could also see possibilities in
> other areas.

Let me know when you have something to test.

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On Thursday,  3 August 2000 at 23:59:30 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:18:12PM -0500, Henry F. Marquardt wrote:
>> I agree, this is a 'lost' technology, a solution in search of a problem.
>> Even the palm crowd doesn't use it much that I've seen - I remember some of
>> the early marketing hype there with people swapping IR business cards - I
>> don't think I've ever seen anyone do that
>
> Do it all the time.

Not only you.  Many people I know, myself included, do this.

>> and I don't think I could figure out how in any reasonable amount
>> of time with mine - it'd be quicker to scribble on a napkin.
>
> Being able to sync my Palm pilot with my Vaio using IR would be *very* nice.
> One less set of cables to have to carry around with me.

Agreed, modulo laptop model.

>> Same with my laptop, it was configured as com2 and as far as I was
>> concerned just taking up IRQ space - I turned it off when I put
>> FBSD on there.  Doesn't mean you should play with it, but what are
>> you going to *use* it for?
>
> There are a bunch of mobile phones out here with built in modems.
> Point the phone at the computer and suddenly (in Windows) you've got
> a modem attached to COM2 (or whatever) -- again, without needing the
> additional cabling.  This is a good thing.

Again, agreed.  My mobile phone has this facility, and it's the *only*
way I can use the modem.  I understand that Linux supports this
functionality, and for me it's enough reason to install Linux on the
box.

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I cvsupped last night, and this morning made world and built and installed a
new kernel.  The box runs for 10-20 minutes and then dies horribly with
"kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled" all over the console.  I don't
think it's hardware - it ran 4.0-stable for 45 days before I updated this
morning.  Anbody else notice anything wrong with -stable recently?

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On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 02:03:07PM +0400, Andrew L. Neporada wrote:
> 			-- Andrew.
> 
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, jack wrote:
> 
> > Today H . S . YOON wrote:
> > 
> > > Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S?
> > 
> > A buildworld of 4.1-RELEASE on a 3.5-RELEASE box worked for me.
> > I haven't installed it yet.
> 
> Buildworld (sources approx. 4.1-RC2, system - 3.5-STABLE) worked for me
> too, but when I made installworld it fails with Signal 12 in the middle of
> process. Subsequent runs of make installworld cause immediate failure
> with message obout LC_CTIME!=... (sorry, don't remember details). I'm sure
> this is not a hardware issue because it happens on two different boxes
> (not overclocked)

This happened to me, too, in the midst of a hot upgrade of a
production server. It happens because the newly built shell
makes a system call that your 3.x kernel lacks. (Signal 12 is
unimplemented system call.)

I thought I was going to have to upgrade from CD, but after a little
thought, I was able to work around this because I *also* had the 3.x
sources in /usr/src3 (I was feeling paranoid, and I'm glad). I went
into /usr/src3/bin/sh and did a make install -- that restored a good
shell. Then it went back to my 4.1 sources and did a make
installkernel, did the rest of the steps to install the new kernel as
/kernel, and rebooted single-user.

I was then able to make installworld.

If you do not have the 3.x sources available, you will probably have
to boot from a CD and do an upgrade install of 4.0 or 4.1-RELEASE,
then re-cvsup, rebuild your world and kernel, and install your kernel
before doing your installworld.

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"Sergey A. Ivanov" <lw@pd.chel.ru> writes:

>   Are there any limits for size/quantity of partitions at freebsd
> slice?

yes, 8 slices. OpenBSD allow 16 slices. don't know about NetBSD.

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hi there,
i just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. I enabled ssh and installed
rsaref but i can't ssh to the box. It time outs.
I did the same with 4.0 and it worked fine.
you think upgrading to -STABLE will fix it?
Thanks,
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Works like a charm here. Are you trying to ssh as root? if so, did you edit sshd_config to allow that? check 
/var/log/messages to see what the problem is. it will usually log something.

-Simon

On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:39:04 -0400, Nader Turki wrote:

>hi there,
>i just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. I enabled ssh and installed
>rsaref but i can't ssh to the box. It time outs.
>I did the same with 4.0 and it worked fine.
>you think upgrading to -STABLE will fix it?
>Thanks,
>Nader
>
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Forgot to ask you if you created ssh keys that reside in /etc/ssh

-Simon

On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 13:45:26 -0400, Simon wrote:

>Works like a charm here. Are you trying to ssh as root? if so, did you edit sshd_config to allow that? check 
>/var/log/messages to see what the problem is. it will usually log something.
>
>-Simon
>
>On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:39:04 -0400, Nader Turki wrote:
>
>>hi there,
>>i just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. I enabled ssh and installed
>>rsaref but i can't ssh to the box. It time outs.
>>I did the same with 4.0 and it worked fine.
>>you think upgrading to -STABLE will fix it?
>>Thanks,
>>Nader
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Greetings!

I noticed that when audio device is opened in read-write mode, then at
first its working well, but when device is closed and re-opened, audio
driver quits working and those messages apperas on console window:

[1] markko@leida:~$ cat </dev/audio > /dev/audio
# it works, nice echoes and everything :-)
^C
# and now it started ..
overrun, dumping 2048 bytes
overrun, dumping 2048 bytes
overrun, dumping 2048 bytes
# and so on ... it keeps going until reboot. Fortunately, rest of the
machine is working well..


Is this known behavior, did i misconfigured something, is there known
workaround or fix?



Some info about machine:

[2] markko@leida:~$ cat /dev/sndstat 
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jul 30 2000 16:13:25
Installed devices:
pcm0: <Yamaha OPL-SAx> at io 0x530 irq 5 drq 0:1 (1p/1r channels duplex)

From kernel config:
...
device          pcm
device          joy
...

From dmesg:
...
FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Sat Aug  5 19:04:03 EET 2000
...
pcm0: <Yamaha OPL-SAx> at port 0x220-0x22f,0x530-0x537,0x388-0x38b,\
0x330-0x331,0x370-0x371 irq 5 drq 0,1 on isa0
joy0: <Generic PnP Joystick> at port 0x201 on isa0


--
Markko




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On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Fred Condo wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 02:03:07PM +0400, Andrew L. Neporada wrote:
> > 			-- Andrew.
> > 
> > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, jack wrote:
> > 
> > > Today H . S . YOON wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Does anyone succeed on making world from 3.5S to 4.1S?
> > > 
> > > A buildworld of 4.1-RELEASE on a 3.5-RELEASE box worked for me.
> > > I haven't installed it yet.
> > 
> > Buildworld (sources approx. 4.1-RC2, system - 3.5-STABLE) worked for me
> > too, but when I made installworld it fails with Signal 12 in the middle of
> > process. Subsequent runs of make installworld cause immediate failure
> > with message obout LC_CTIME!=... (sorry, don't remember details). I'm sure
> > this is not a hardware issue because it happens on two different boxes
> > (not overclocked)
> 
> This happened to me, too, in the midst of a hot upgrade of a
> production server. It happens because the newly built shell
> makes a system call that your 3.x kernel lacks. (Signal 12 is
> unimplemented system call.)
> 
> I thought I was going to have to upgrade from CD, but after a little
> thought, I was able to work around this because I *also* had the 3.x
> sources in /usr/src3 (I was feeling paranoid, and I'm glad). I went
> into /usr/src3/bin/sh and did a make install -- that restored a good
> shell. Then it went back to my 4.1 sources and did a make
> installkernel, did the rest of the steps to install the new kernel as
> /kernel, and rebooted single-user.

Hmm, I did not have 3.x sources, so I thought I was going
to do a binary upgrade from CD. Fortunately, I succeded in booting with
new (4.x) kernel in single user mode. I have installed it *before* doing
installworld (as recommended in UPDATING). After that I successfully made
installworld.

P.S. Thanks anyway for your advise.

> 
> I was then able to make installworld.
> 
> If you do not have the 3.x sources available, you will probably have
> to boot from a CD and do an upgrade install of 4.0 or 4.1-RELEASE,
> then re-cvsup, rebuild your world and kernel, and install your kernel
> before doing your installworld.
> 
> -- 
> Fred Condo + fred@condo.chico.ca.us
> This above all -- to thine own self be true. -- Wm. Shakespeare
> 
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If your libcrypt is linked to scrypt, you have MD5, else you have DES.
* Mike Hoskins <mike@adept.org> [000802 23:36]:
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> 
> ls /usr/lib/*des* is a good way to check...

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>i just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. I enabled ssh and installed
>rsaref but i can't ssh to the box. It time outs.

Take a look at http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/sheet.cgi?ssh and see
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Is it possible to manual insert a swap-file on a sytem already set-up and
running? This is of course assuming you have the necessary disk space.

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On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 01:39:04PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote:
> i just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. I enabled ssh and installed
> rsaref but i can't ssh to the box. It time outs.

Sounds like a misconfiguration. First check that you can ping the
box, then check you can telnet to port 22 and then use "ssh -v"
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On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 03:01:38PM -0500, Robert L. Bostic wrote:
> Is it possible to manual insert a swap-file on a sytem already set-up and
> running? This is of course assuming you have the necessary disk space.

See the examples in the vnconfig man page.

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Hi everyone.

I'm trying my first update, from 4.0-Release to 4.1-Stable, so I'm
carefully following the steps in the handbook. So, checking
/etc/make.conf, I saw it is almost empty, it only has:

USA_RESIDENT=NO

what, BTW, it is not true. So my question is: where can I find the
options to configure the file? (and if a good samaritan can send me a
copy of the file so I can copy it, would be great). I'm afraid to miss
some important build flags.

Just another question: do I need to remake the devices? I have not seen
any comment about it on the list, just in the handbook.

Thanks,
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I just wrote my refuse file.  I read refuse.README in
/usr/src/share/examples/cvsup, and it implies that the default sup
directory is /usr/sup.  On my pretty much standard installation (with
CVSup's base directory /usr) I didn't have that directory.  When I
created it and put my refuse file there, id didn't work.

Later I found that I have a sup directory under
/usr/local/etc/cvsup/.  Putting my refuse file there worked just fine.

Is that a bug in the README file or is something not standard on my
system?
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On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 02:10:09PM +0000, Dylan Hoffman wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone.
> 
> I'm trying my first update, from 4.0-Release to 4.1-Stable, so I'm
> carefully following the steps in the handbook. So, checking
> /etc/make.conf, I saw it is almost empty,

/etc/defaults/make.conf is what you are looking for. As with
/etc/defaults/rc.conf, don't edit that file, copy the relevant lines
to /etc/make/conf and edit them there (/etc/make.conf doesn't get
touched when you build the world).

> it only has:
> 
> USA_RESIDENT=NO
> 
> what, BTW, it is not true.

I think that is a *safe* default related to the US govt export
restrictions and the RSA patent. If you are a US resident you should
change this (yes, I know the export restrictions have been lifted, but
the RSA patent doesn't expire 'til later this year).

> So my question is: where can I find the
> options to configure the file? (and if a good samaritan can send me a
> copy of the file so I can copy it, would be great). I'm afraid to miss
> some important build flags.
> 
> Just another question: do I need to remake the devices? I have not seen
> any comment about it on the list, just in the handbook.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dylan
> 
> 
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On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 05:36:41PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> I just wrote my refuse file.  I read refuse.README in
> /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup, and it implies that the default sup
> directory is /usr/sup.  On my pretty much standard installation (with
> CVSup's base directory /usr) I didn't have that directory.  When I
> created it and put my refuse file there, id didn't work.
> 
> Later I found that I have a sup directory under
> /usr/local/etc/cvsup/.  Putting my refuse file there worked just fine.
> 
> Is that a bug in the README file or is something not standard on my
> system?

It depends. If you look at the manpage for cvsup you will see that
there are 3 valid locations for refuse files. Where you put it
determines the paths you need to add for the entries.

I put mine in /usr/sup. This is global so you can put everything in
the one file, but putting it in /usr/sup means that you have to path
everything relative to base (i.e. /usr). As an example, here is mine
which stops cvsup getting non-English docs and ports and all but doc PRs:

doc/de* doc/es* doc/fr* doc/ja* doc/nl* doc/ru* doc/zh*
www/es* www/fr* www/ja* www/nl* www/ru* www/zh*
ports/chinese ports/german ports/japanese ports/korean ports/russian
ports/vietnamese
gnats/[a-ce-z]*

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On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 10:58:49PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> /etc/defaults/make.conf is what you are looking for. As with
> /etc/defaults/rc.conf, don't edit that file, copy the relevant lines
> to /etc/make/conf and edit them there (/etc/make.conf doesn't get
          ^^^^^^^^^

Sorry, typo. That should, of course, be /etc/make.conf


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Mark Ovens <marko@freebsd.org> writes:

> It depends. If you look at the manpage for cvsup you will see that
> there are 3 valid locations for refuse files. Where you put it
> determines the paths you need to add for the entries.

Mea culpa!  I had "*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup".  Sorry to have
bothered you.
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On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 05:12:29PM +0200, Cyrille Lefevre wrote:
> "Sergey A. Ivanov" <lw@pd.chel.ru> writes:
> 
> >   Are there any limits for size/quantity of partitions at freebsd
> > slice?
> 
> yes, 8 slices. OpenBSD allow 16 slices. don't know about NetBSD.

ITYM, 8 partitions per slice with 7 usable (the 'c'-parition should
not be used for filesystem or swap).
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Hi,

After updgrading to 4.1 (via cvsup, buildworld, buildkernel, and so forth), it
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On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Crist J . Clark wrote:

>On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 05:12:29PM +0200, Cyrille Lefevre wrote:
>> "Sergey A. Ivanov" <lw@pd.chel.ru> writes:
>> 
>> >   Are there any limits for size/quantity of partitions at freebsd
>> > slice?
>> 
>> yes, 8 slices. OpenBSD allow 16 slices. don't know about NetBSD.
>
>ITYM, 8 partitions per slice with 7 usable (the 'c'-parition should
>not be used for filesystem or swap).

That is correct, and to answer the above question, NetBSD also uses 8
partitions per slice with the c partition being reserved.  As far as I
can tell one of the primary reasons for sticking with this scheme is
that some platforms have firmware which look for information in 4.2BSD
style partition schemes.

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Markko Merzin wrote:
> 
> Greetings!
> 
> I noticed that when audio device is opened in read-write mode, then at
> first its working well, but when device is closed and re-opened, audio
> driver quits working and those messages apperas on console window:
> 
> [1] markko@leida:~$ cat </dev/audio > /dev/audio
> # it works, nice echoes and everything :-)
> ^C
> # and now it started ..
> overrun, dumping 2048 bytes
> overrun, dumping 2048 bytes
> overrun, dumping 2048 bytes

All I can say is that I tried this and recieved the exact same reaction.

dmesg: 
pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 18 at device 11.0 on
pci0

[ogre] [/] # cat /dev/sndstat 
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jul 28 2000 15:59:59
Installed devices:
pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> at io 0xc800 irq 18 (4p/3r channels duplex)

	-mike


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Subject: Re: ssh
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nader Turki" <nturki@adelphia.net>

| i just installed fresh FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. I enabled ssh and
installed
| rsaref but i can't ssh to the box. It time outs.
| I did the same with 4.0 and it worked fine.
| you think upgrading to -STABLE will fix it?

Do you have your DNS resolver set up properly?  I run into this kind of
lag when logging in via telnet and my DNS info is wrong (usually a dead
link to an outside DNS server).  It gets hung up trying to do a lookup
on my IP address.  EVentually I get a prompt once it gives up on the
failed lookup.

Try putting the machine you're coming from into the ssh server's hosts
file.




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