From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 1:11:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C743E37B422 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 01:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.211.149]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 3 Sep 2000 01:10:11 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA46045; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 01:11:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 01:11:11 -0700 From: "Crist J . Clark" To: David Uhring Cc: thomas@noproblem.net, chad@DCFinc.com, JDBitters@cs.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1-STABLE BOOT SLICE PROBLEM Message-ID: <20000903011111.F62475@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <000c01c01546$f334ed40$0101a8c0@noproblem.net> <00090221070200.18474@dave> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <00090221070200.18474@dave>; from duhring@charter.net on Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 08:49:55PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 08:49:55PM -0500, David Uhring wrote: [snip] > See the Handbook, Section 2.4.2, where Microsoft "partitions" are discussed. > Even though the BIOS - read Microsoft - partitions are limited to 4 primary > partitions, BSD's and Solaris's "slice" tables do not reside in the MBR, but > rather in the first sector of the partition on which BSD or Solaris resides. > Partitions are configured with fdisk and slices are configured with disklabel. No, that's backwards. From the section of the handbook you refer, FIPS allows you to split an existing MS-DOS partition into two pieces, preserving the original partition and allowing you to install onto the second free piece... Afterwards, you can reboot and install FreeBSD on the new free slice. ^^^^^ Also, from dfisk(8) BUGS . . Throughout this man page, the term `partition' is used where it should actually be `slice', in order to conform with the terms used elsewhere. > You should see what Linux 2.4.0-test7 reports as the geometry of my primary HD. > Until I got rid of Solaris and used its space for FreeBSD and OpenBSD, I had > 32 /dev/hda*. Yes, it is confusing that FreeBSD uses 's' to designate > partitions. Get used to it. Easy to remeber 's' for 'slice.' I just find the 1-4 rather than 0-3 numbering incongruent. ;) -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 1:24:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D981737B42C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 01:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.211.149]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 3 Sep 2000 01:23:27 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA46147; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 01:24:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 01:24:28 -0700 From: "Crist J . Clark" To: Nate Williams Cc: Allen Campbell , Ian Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad 16550A maybe? Message-ID: <20000903012428.G62475@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <39B19295.3D66E41@verinet.com> <200009030158.TAA01926@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200009030158.TAA01926@nomad.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 07:58:26PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 07:58:26PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote: [snip] > The only modifications were to continually upgrade the software such as > BIND and SENDMAIL where remote root exploits were possible, but > otherwise it's a stock FreeBSD 2.2.8 system. (No X, of course.) I assume you mean it is a FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE. There are some security fixes that were never backported to 2.2.8. I hope you don't have /proc mounted for example. If it's 2.2.8-RELEASE there are more things to be fixed. If security is a concern on this platform, the fact that security fixes have not been and will no longer be backported is something to consider. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 2:54:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.polytechnic.edu.na (mail.polytechnic.edu.na [196.31.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6282637B423 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 02:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.horizon.na ([196.31.225.199] helo=polytechnic.edu.na) by mail.polytechnic.edu.na with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 13VZJ9-0003OM-00; Sun, 03 Sep 2000 10:55:35 -0200 Message-ID: <39B21FAB.FCA3C0CA@polytechnic.edu.na> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 11:53:47 +0200 From: Tim Priebe Reply-To: tim@iafrica.com.na X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thomas@noproblem.net Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, cjclark@alum.mit.edu, JDBitters@cs.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1-STABLE BOOT SLICE PROBLEM References: <000c01c01546$f334ed40$0101a8c0@noproblem.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas Beauchamp wrote: > > Hi! > > My understanding is: > > a 'slice', in FreeBSD lingo is a 'Microsoft's partition', of which you can > only have FOUR (past the MBR and partition table). > FreeBSD partitions exist on a Microsoft slice, and you can have up to 8 > FreeBSD partitions per slice. > So a 'dangerously dedicated disk', having nothing to do with Microsoft, has > essentially no slice, just partitions. Am I right? > > But I find it confusing that FreeBSD uses the 's' of slice in its naming > terminology : '/dev/da0s1a' for instance, whilst other versions of BSD omit > the 'slice information' and would call the root file system '/dev/da0a' > instead. I understand that FreeBSD support this terminology too > ('compatibility slice naming'), but it's all confusing for me: when > Microsoft 'partitions' are not there AT ALL (as it is the case in a > 'dangerously dedicated disk'), why then use the term 'slice'? Actually you can have multiple slices on a dangerously dedicated disk. Try the following: do a dangerously dedicated install onto a small disk. then do a dd to copy the small disk to a bigger one. boot off the new disk and run sysinstall. Go into Fdisk, you will see that there is free space. Create a new slice, and then lable it, and create a file system. Worked fine for me when I tested it to see what would happen. Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 6:23:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bart.callnet0800.com (bart.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CD137B424 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 06:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.4unet.co.uk [212.67.128.143] by bart.callnet0800.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A155EE9E0078; Sun, 03 Sep 2000 14:25:41 +0100 Received: from James [212.67.147.121] by smtp.4unet.co.uk (SMTPD32-5.05) id A0ADAA101F6; Sun, 03 Sep 2000 14:22:53 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Thomas Beauchamp" To: Cc: , , , Subject: RE: 4.1-STABLE BOOT SLICE PROBLEM Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:22:48 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01c015aa$0df5a580$0101a8c0@noproblem.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <39B21FAB.FCA3C0CA@polytechnic.edu.na> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----Original Message----- From: tim@www.noproblem.net [mailto:tim@www.noproblem.net]On Behalf Of Tim Priebe Sent: 03 September 2000 10:54 To: thomas@noproblem.net Cc: chad@DCFinc.com; cjclark@alum.mit.edu; JDBitters@cs.com; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1-STABLE BOOT SLICE PROBLEM It works! ^_^ Thomas Beauchamp wrote: > > Hi! > > My understanding is: > > a 'slice', in FreeBSD lingo is a 'Microsoft's partition', of which you can > only have FOUR (past the MBR and partition table). > FreeBSD partitions exist on a Microsoft slice, and you can have up to 8 > FreeBSD partitions per slice. > So a 'dangerously dedicated disk', having nothing to do with Microsoft, has > essentially no slice, just partitions. Am I right? > > But I find it confusing that FreeBSD uses the 's' of slice in its naming > terminology : '/dev/da0s1a' for instance, whilst other versions of BSD omit > the 'slice information' and would call the root file system '/dev/da0a' > instead. I understand that FreeBSD support this terminology too > ('compatibility slice naming'), but it's all confusing for me: when > Microsoft 'partitions' are not there AT ALL (as it is the case in a > 'dangerously dedicated disk'), why then use the term 'slice'? Actually you can have multiple slices on a dangerously dedicated disk. Try the following: do a dangerously dedicated install onto a small disk. then do a dd to copy the small disk to a bigger one. boot off the new disk and run sysinstall. Go into Fdisk, you will see that there is free space. Create a new slice, and then lable it, and create a file system. Worked fine for me when I tested it to see what would happen. Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 7:45:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [208.42.49.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C575A37B43C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 07:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hamlet.nectar.com (hamlet.nectar.com [10.0.1.102]) by gw.nectar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDDA1925F; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 09:45:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nectar@localhost) by hamlet.nectar.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02644; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 09:45:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nectar@spawn.nectar.com) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 09:45:18 -0500 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: Devin Butterfield Cc: kmays , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops Message-ID: <20000903094518.A2627@hamlet.nectar.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" , Devin Butterfield , kmays , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <019c01c014fe$4279c860$8a42163f@KenMays> <39B19161.F6939E33@db.wireless.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39B19161.F6939E33@db.wireless.net>; from dbutter@db.wireless.net on Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 04:46:41PM -0700 X-Url: http://www.nectar.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 04:46:41PM -0700, Devin Butterfield wrote: > I have 4.1-STABLE running fine on my Sony Z505SX. X works fine at > 1024x768, and sound works with only a small hack. APM also works great. What's the hack? (I also run 4.1-STABLE on Sony Z505SX: sound ``just works'') -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / jvidrine@verio.net / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 10:16:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A11B37B423 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 10:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16120; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 11:15:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03829; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 11:15:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 11:15:49 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009031715.LAA03829@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: Nate Williams , Allen Campbell , Ian Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad 16550A maybe? In-Reply-To: <20000903012428.G62475@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> References: <39B19295.3D66E41@verinet.com> <200009030158.TAA01926@nomad.yogotech.com> <20000903012428.G62475@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > The only modifications were to continually upgrade the software such as > > BIND and SENDMAIL where remote root exploits were possible, but > > otherwise it's a stock FreeBSD 2.2.8 system. (No X, of course.) > > I assume you mean it is a FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE. Right. > There are some > security fixes that were never backported to 2.2.8. True, but none of them involve remote root exploits, only local root exploits. (The TCP/IP stack ones I acctually backported). > I hope you don't have /proc mounted for example. If it's 2.2.8-RELEASE > there are more things to be fixed. If security is a concern on this > platform, the fact that security fixes have not been and will no > longer be backported is something to consider. Given it's not a machine that can be logged into (except by the sys-admin), it's really not a concern. *IF* the box had usable local accounts, then it would be a concern. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 12:36:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254A537B424 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e83JaFU25795; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009031936.e83JaFU25795@ptavv.es.net> To: "kmays" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Sep 2000 12:53:00 EDT." <019c01c014fe$4279c860$8a42163f@KenMays> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 12:36:15 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ken, I run 4.1-Stable on my 600E with no problems. But your mileage may vary depending on the PCCARD devices you need. 4.1 does not support CardBus (32 bit) PCMCIA cards. It works well with my Xircom RealPort card and my Adaptec SCSI card. If you have not run FreeBSD on a laptop, read up on the pccard stuff. Look at /etc/defaults/pccard.conf and the man pages on pccardd and pccardc. You may have a glitch or two, but, once you get the configuration right, it should be fine. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 13:14:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05FC37B424 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (1Cust133.tnt1.chattanooga.tn.da.uu.net [63.26.81.133]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19830 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:13:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops In-Reply-To: <200009031936.e83JaFU25795@ptavv.es.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Kevin Oberman wrote: > I run 4.1-Stable on my 600E with no problems. But your mileage may vary > depending on the PCCARD devices you need. 4.1 does not support CardBus > (32 bit) PCMCIA cards. It works well with my Xircom RealPort card and > my Adaptec SCSI card. I might mention a few gotchas. As Kevin stated, read the pccardd docs. However you go about installing the system, snapshot or release, after you makeworld be sure to rebuild pccardd. Also read LINT on adding apm support. Otherwise you will run into things like shutdown -p not working. Pay particular attention to configuring /etc/rc.conf correctly. You will also need the kernel option options PCIC_RESUME_RESET # reset after resume in order for insert and remove to be recognized. These are just a few things that I had to sort out. Hope this helps. On another front, I have been running stable on my laptop for quite a while. Since I am usually connected to the net through a network card this is not a big problem, but my modem card is not supported. It is however in PAO. Is there an easy way of adding support for the card in Stable. I would state the make and model of the card but I don't have it handy. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 13:29:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B25837B43F; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30646137F0B; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA98464; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:29:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14770.46223.728194.598919@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:29:03 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: 4.1-RELEASE resumes, 4.1-STABLE hangs. X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where do I start looking for this: With 4.1-RELEASE, my fujitsu E6150 notebook correctly suspends and resumes... and with 4.1-CURRENT (sup'd yesterday) it doesn't --- it hangs on the resume. I've even up and down graded several times to verify the behaviour. (I'm not even sure where the suspend/resume code lives ... so I could use some pointers ... but I'm also looking for something that changed recently.) I have also verified that with 4.1-RELEASE (where suspend/resume work) that removing my CDROM (booting fresh with my cdrom removed --- I can replace it with an extra battery) will cause suspend/resume not to work. Please be clear about this: with the laptop in the off state, I remove the cdrom, and replace it with "nothing" or a battery and then boot... and while booted without the cdrom drive, suspend/resume hangs on resume. It hangs on resume even if I use the zzz command. When the laptop resumes, I see it reset ata0 and ata1 (normally). Ata1 doesn't probe when I boot without the cdrom installed (this seems common to desktops, even) ... so I'm wondering if some code is blindly resetting both ata channels and hanging on the non-existent one. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 13:33: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from campbell.cwx.net (Campbell.cwx.net [216.17.176.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A110137B43C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from verinet.com (pragma. [192.168.1.2]) by campbell.cwx.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA45803; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:33:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Message-ID: <39B2B57E.43DC656F@verinet.com> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 14:33:02 -0600 From: Allen Campbell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad 16550A maybe? References: <200009030108.SAA08680@freeway.dcfinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Chad R. Larson" wrote: > > As I recall, Allen Campbell wrote: > > I would kill for a kernel option that makes patching unnecessary but > > the attitude, as expressed above, that anything faster than a 386SX25 > > can not possibly be too slow seems to preclude this. I believe there > > is a shortage of under powered hardware among the developers. Maybe > > that is a good thing. :) > > I don't think so. One of the sources for hardware to run FreeBSD on > in the corporate world is the machines that are too slow to run the > current M$ offerings. We've got a bunch of 486 machines doing > perfectly good work as nameservers, time servers, mail forwarders, > etc. It's a =good= thing that FreeBSD uses a small hardware > footprint. > > Worst case I've encountered (and it was more for the sport than > utility) was a Compaq 386/20 laptop with an 80meg hard drive and > 8meg of RAM. I loaded 2.1.7 on it over a laplink cable connecting > the parallel port to a running bigger system. Worked fine. > > I'm not saying FreeBSD shouldn't run on bigger iron, just that it's > good it doesn't need to. It is evidence of good design that the system will scale down to low end hardware and function acceptably. My 486 is responsible for ipfw, natd, ppp, smtp, pop, nfs, samba, ntp, dns, lpd, ssh and probably a few others I'm not remembering right now. My point was that I'd hate to see anyone with the talent to do kernel development suffer with such hardware. Although it is 4.0-STABLE, I don't build world on this box. It would take more days than I could afford. -- Allen Campbell | Lurking at the bottom of the allenc@verinet.com | gravity well, getting old. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 13:45:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prydn.tacni.net (207-55-167-225.dhc.net [207.55.167.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11AE437B422 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 48148 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Sep 2000 20:44:52 -0000 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:44:52 -0500 From: Erich Zigler To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops Message-ID: <20000903154452.B48055@superhero.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erich Zigler , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200009031936.e83JaFU25795@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jim@siteplus.net on Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 04:13:18PM -0400 X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy. X-Shane: Hi Shane! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 04:13:18PM -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > in order for insert and remove to be recognized. These are just a few > things that I had to sort out. Hope this helps. I'd like to throw my two cents in here. MIHIRA Yoshiro on the freebsd-mobile mailing list (where this thread should probably be.) Posted a patch that will make it so the IBM ThinkPad 600E could use 3V PCMCIA cards. Here is the patch. I have no idea if it has been officially submitted or committed yet, but it works fine for me and I have had no problems. I offer no warranty, and neither does the patch author.. --- pcic.c.org Wed Aug 23 00:02:32 2000 +++ pcic.c Wed Aug 23 00:02:55 2000 @@ -609,6 +609,7 @@ case PCIC_RF5C396: case PCIC_VLSI: case PCIC_IBM_KING: + case PCIC_I82365: switch(slt->pwr.vpp) { default: return(EINVAL); -- Erich Zigler Sr. System Administrator "He asked if i wanted it tested. I said no, I wanted them to sprinkle pixie dust on it and make it work again." -Randy Bush To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 13:53:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.inwind.it (relay1.inwind.it [212.141.53.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C421637B42C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (212.141.78.214) by relay1.inwind.it (5.1.046) id 39AFDC9900046783 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 22:53:20 +0200 From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 21:53:21 GMT Message-ID: <20000903.21532100@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: Re: bad 16550A maybe? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: SuperCalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Best regards, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 14: 0:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E6B37B43C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18898; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:00:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.11.0/8.8.3) with ESMTP id e83L07G06687; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:00:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009032100.e83L07G06687@billy-club.village.org> To: Jim Weeks Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Sep 2000 16:13:18 EDT." References: Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 15:00:07 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Jim Weeks writes: : On another front, I have been running stable on my laptop for quite a : while. Since I am usually connected to the net through a network card : this is not a big problem, but my modem card is not supported. It is : however in PAO. Is there an easy way of adding support for the card in : Stable. I would state the make and model of the card but I don't have it : handy. It should be supported. What, specifically, does it need from PAO that isn't already in -current/-stable? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 14: 3:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0720737B422 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18915; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:03:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.11.0/8.8.3) with ESMTP id e83L31G06700; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:03:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009032103.e83L31G06700@billy-club.village.org> To: Erich Zigler Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Sep 2000 15:44:52 CDT." <20000903154452.B48055@superhero.org> References: <20000903154452.B48055@superhero.org> <200009031936.e83JaFU25795@ptavv.es.net> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 15:03:01 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000903154452.B48055@superhero.org> Erich Zigler writes: : I'd like to throw my two cents in here. MIHIRA Yoshiro on the freebsd-mobile : mailing list (where this thread should probably be.) Posted a patch that : will make it so the IBM ThinkPad 600E could use 3V PCMCIA cards. Here is the : patch. I have no idea if it has been officially submitted or committed yet, : but it works fine for me and I have had no problems. I offer no warranty, : and neither does the patch author.. I think that this patch will work on all 82365's. Looking at the code and some old datasheets (but not an original 82365 one, which I can't find, feel free to mail me one) I think this will work. Even on bridges that don't support 3.3V. Well, it will "fail" there by not setting the voltage to 3.3V, but it will "Fail" by setting the voltage to 0 if I read the data sheets right. Since these older chips don't support 3.3V, this is the best that can be expected. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 14: 4:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from campbell.cwx.net (Campbell.cwx.net [216.17.176.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0A137B423 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from verinet.com (pragma. [192.168.1.2]) by campbell.cwx.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA46022 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:04:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Message-ID: <39B2BCD8.CCFF9655@verinet.com> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 15:04:24 -0600 From: Allen Campbell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad 16550A maybe? References: <39B19295.3D66E41@verinet.com> <200009030158.TAA01926@nomad.yogotech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nate Williams wrote: > > > > > Maybe. silo overflows happen because the machine is too slow to > > > > service the interrupt before the buffer overflows (but unless it is a > > > > 386SX25 you should have enough CPU power). It can also be caused by > > > > baud rate mismatches, but that's fairly rare and unusual (you usually > > > > get framing errors from a 16550A in this case). This can also be > > > > caused by other hardware misbehaving and blocking interrupts. > > > > > > I ran a 386SX16 under DOS 5 / DESQView (~10 tasks in 6Mb) using David > > > Nugent's BNU FOSSIL driver as a Fidonet mailer/BBS for almost 9 years, > > > hardly ever seeing 16550A overflows at 14 byte thresholds, albeit 14.4k. > > > > You actually run a 386SX25? I have a 486/133 that has always > > experienced intense SILO overflows (yes, it is a true 16550, bought > > specifically to address this,) under FreeBSD. > > Which version of FreeBSD? I've been running (well, I quit the company, > but the box is still up) a 486/66 with 4 16550A's running full-blast @ > 115K on the modems with nary a problem. 4.0-STABLE at the moment. The problem began somewhere in the 3.X series. Prior to 3.X, I never saw a SILO overflow from this machine. > The box is a firewall, DNS, email, and modem server for a small office, > and is working great. > > The only modifications were to continually upgrade the software such as > BIND and SENDMAIL where remote root exploits were possible, but > otherwise it's a stock FreeBSD 2.2.8 system. (No X, of course.) > > > I suspect the problem is exasperated by PIO mode IDE and an ISA > > NE2000. Anyhow, the threshold most definitely MUST be lowered when > > communicating at >50Kbps with my USR modem. > > We're running the same setup (PIO IDE and a NE2000), and I've ran all 4 > modems (2 USR Sportsters and 2 USR V.Everythings) full-blast one day to > see how well it would handle it. Not once did it even hiccup or lose > packets. Try loading the IDE drive and the NE2000 at the same time. I don't see SILO overflows while the box is simply driving the serial port, but let some other host on my network make the NFS exported drives busy while the modem is working and the SILO overflows erupt. Nate, I don't know what to say to this except you only need to search -questions or usenet to find countless examples of the same problem with the same symptoms being reported. These people have no agenda other than fixing the problem. Perhaps the PIC/chipset implementation makes this less cut and dry and, in your case, you got lucky. Maybe it's the early version of FreeBSD you are running. Sun spots perhaps? I don't know. > > I would kill for a kernel option that makes patching unnecessary but > > the attitude, as expressed above, that anything faster than a 386SX25 > > can not possibly be too slow seems to preclude this. > > I'm with Rod Grimes in stating that something happened in later releases > of FreeBSD that makes this difficult or impossible. Huh? Jim King posted the patch that does the trick earlier in this thread. I know for fact this works. I've been applying something similar to sio.c since 3.1-RELEASE. It basically makes a one line change that lowers the 16550A threshold to 8 bytes. How is it difficult or impossible to accommodate this with an #ifdef based on a kernel option, i.e. option 16550_LOW_THRESHOLD... ? And here it is again: --- sio.c.orig Wed Aug 16 09:29:34 2000 +++ sio.c Fri Sep 1 14:53:47 2000 @@ -2345,7 +2345,7 @@ * latencies are larger. */ com->fifo_image = t->c_ospeed <= 4800 - ? FIFO_ENABLE : FIFO_ENABLE | FIFO_RX_HIGH; + ? FIFO_ENABLE : FIFO_ENABLE | FIFO_RX_MEDH; #ifdef COM_ESP /* * The Hayes ESP card needs the fifo DMA mode bit set -- Allen Campbell | Lurking at the bottom of the allenc@verinet.com | gravity well, getting old. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 15: 1:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1A937B423 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (1Cust133.tnt1.chattanooga.tn.da.uu.net [63.26.81.133]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16000; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 18:00:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops In-Reply-To: <200009032100.e83L07G06687@billy-club.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > > It should be supported. What, specifically, does it need from PAO > that isn't already in -current/-stable? Sorry I didn't furnish this information the first time. It is a TDK DF3000. I realize it is an old card, but it still works good, and it is about as fast as any Hotel/Motel telephone line will allow any way. I assume that built in PCI modems are still not supported either? Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 15: 5:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB7937B422 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19049; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:05:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.11.0/8.8.3) with ESMTP id e83M5DG06889; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:05:13 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009032205.e83M5DG06889@billy-club.village.org> To: Jim Weeks Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Sep 2000 18:00:16 EDT." References: Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 16:05:13 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Jim Weeks writes: : On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: : > : > It should be supported. What, specifically, does it need from PAO : > that isn't already in -current/-stable? : : Sorry I didn't furnish this information the first time. It is a TDK : DF3000. I realize it is an old card, but it still works good, and it is : about as fast as any Hotel/Motel telephone line will allow any way. ok. Does the pccardd say no card in database for this card? Or does it give some other error? : I assume that built in PCI modems are still not supported either? They likely never will. Each one of them is a huge effort to support because each codec is different and a real PITA. Some controller based modems do work well (I have two in service right now), but these are the exception, not the rule. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 15:13:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA63837B422 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (1Cust133.tnt1.chattanooga.tn.da.uu.net [63.26.81.133]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03957; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 18:12:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops In-Reply-To: <200009032205.e83M5DG06889@billy-club.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > ok. Does the pccardd say no card in database for this card? Or does > it give some other error? No card in database. No other errors. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 15:14:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F164A37B424 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19095; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:14:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.11.0/8.8.3) with ESMTP id e83MEqG07002; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:14:52 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009032214.e83MEqG07002@billy-club.village.org> To: Jim Weeks Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Sep 2000 18:12:16 EDT." References: Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 16:14:52 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Jim Weeks writes: : On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: : : > ok. Does the pccardd say no card in database for this card? Or does : > it give some other error? : : No card in database. No other errors. OK. Can you do a pccardc dumpcis and send it to me? It should be relatively easy to get an entry that you can test and I can integrate back into the card database. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 15:29:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBE937B42C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:29:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19181; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:29:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.11.0/8.8.3) with ESMTP id e83MT9G07093; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:29:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009032229.e83MT9G07093@billy-club.village.org> To: Jim Weeks Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Sep 2000 18:20:41 EDT." References: Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 16:29:09 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [[ Added stable back to the list, since this should go into the archives ]] In message Jim Weeks writes: : Configuration data for card in slot 0 First thing we need to do is get the mfg names. We look for the so called "Version 1 info" tuple which has this information. Ah, here we find it. : Tuple #2, code = 0x15 (Version 1 info), length = 46 : 000: 05 00 54 44 4b 00 44 46 33 30 30 30 20 44 61 74 : 010: 61 2f 46 61 78 20 4d 6f 64 65 6d 00 54 44 4b 20 : 020: 53 79 73 74 65 6d 73 00 56 30 2e 30 00 ff : Version = 5.0, Manuf = [TDK], card vers = [DF3000 Data/Fax Modem] : Addit. info = [TDK Systems],[V0.0] This tells me that we should start with an entry that looks like: card "TDK" "DF3000 Data/Fax Modem" config auto "sio" ? which should get you about 90% of the way there. If this doesn't work, then we need to tweak the config line to not use auto. To do that, you need to find the config entries for the CIS. These are in the "Configuration Entry" (type 0x1b). : Tuple #14, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 20 : 000: e0 41 9d 78 3d 86 46 26 4c e7 5f aa 60 f8 03 07 : 010: 30 bc 86 28 : Config index = 0x20(default) : Interface byte = 0x41 (I/O) +RDY/-BSY active : Vcc pwr: : Continuous supply current: 3.5 x 10mA : Max current average over 1 second: 1 x 100mA, ext = 0x46 : Max current average over 10 ms: 2 x 100mA : Power down supply current: 4.5 x 1mA : RDY/BSY scale Speed = 5.0 x 10 ms, scaled by 10 : Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only : I/O address # 1: block start = 0x3f8 block length = 0x8 : IRQ modes: Level : IRQs: 2 3 4 5 7 9 10 15 : Max twin cards = 0 : Misc attr: (Audio-BVD2) (Power down supported) : Tuple #15, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 : 000: 21 08 aa 60 f8 02 07 : Config index = 0x21 : Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only : I/O address # 1: block start = 0x2f8 block length = 0x8 : Tuple #16, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 : 000: 22 08 aa 60 e8 03 07 : Config index = 0x22 : Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only : I/O address # 1: block start = 0x3e8 block length = 0x8 : Tuple #17, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 : 000: 23 08 aa 60 e8 02 07 : Config index = 0x23 : Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only : I/O address # 1: block start = 0x2e8 block length = 0x8 : Tuple #18, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 3 : 000: 30 08 23 : Config index = 0x30 : Card decodes 3 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only OK. This tells me that this is a fairly standard modem card. They seem to like to have config 0x2N map to what FreeBSD calles sioN (or COM(N+1) in the DOS world). This means that you need to take into account which COM ports are used in your laptop, and then pick the next higher number: config 0x23 "sio" ? would likely be the right line. This card is different than most cards in that it can also decode any address that you give it, which means that config 0x30 "sio" ? might give you a better chance of having it work. In general I always try to give the "auto" entry a chance, then look for an entry that has one window mappable anywhere, then go for the specific entry if all else fails. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 16:32: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from db.wireless.net (adsl-gte-la-216-86-194-70.mminternet.com [216.86.194.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA32C37B423 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from db.wireless.net (dbm.wireless.net [192.168.0.2]) by db.wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA67668; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:19:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbutter@db.wireless.net) Message-ID: <39B2DF59.FA36BC24@db.wireless.net> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 16:31:37 -0700 From: Devin Butterfield X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" Cc: kmays , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops References: <019c01c014fe$4279c860$8a42163f@KenMays> <39B19161.F6939E33@db.wireless.net> <20000903094518.A2627@hamlet.nectar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jacques A. Vidrine" wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 04:46:41PM -0700, Devin Butterfield wrote: > > I have 4.1-STABLE running fine on my Sony Z505SX. X works fine at > > 1024x768, and sound works with only a small hack. APM also works great. > > What's the hack? > > (I also run 4.1-STABLE on Sony Z505SX: sound ``just works'') Hmmm...perhaps there was a fix recently (I have not made world for several weeks). Nevertheless the fix/hack was to uncomment chn_dmaupdate() from /sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c. Here is a snip from the original un-modded code: [...] at line 231 b->rp = chn_getptr(c); b->fp = (b->rp + b->bufsize / 4) % b->bufsize; b->rl = b->bufsize / 4; b->fl = b->bufsize - b->rl; b->underflow = 0; } else { /* chn_dmaupdate(c); */ } } With this line commented (as I and a number of other people reported in a thread on this list) attempting to play a sound file would cause the channel to lock up saying something like "pcm0: play interrupt timeout" and then only a reboot would unlock it. -- Regards, Devin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 18:47: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB62C37B43C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 18:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e841kvV17050 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:46:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 21:41:38 -0400 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Subject: RAID Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am putting together a new POP3 server and am looking at various RAID solutions. I have a couple of boxes deployed using 3ware IDE controllers as well as a Mylex DAC960 and a MegaRAID 428. For RAID0, the 3ware cards seem to perform quite well (I am using them for USENET and proxy servers). But for the POP3, I need something with a little more performance than I seem to get with the 3ware, Mylex and MegaRAID cards. (The 3ware is *REALLY* slow in RAID1, dont know about RAID 10). Has anyone tried the new Adaptec 2100S cards ? I dont want to shell out $500 bucks if they are not that much better than the DAC960s. What about vinum ? Is anyone using it in a production machine ? Is it reliable and ready for prime time ? I want to do either RAID5 or 10 in order to get speed and reliability. Thanks, ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 20: 7:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zipcode.corp.home.net (zipcode.corp.home.net [24.0.26.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308F737B424 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover (dialup-24-0-25-109.corp.home.net [24.0.25.109]) by zipcode.corp.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA12538 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:07:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: Subject: affordable wireless Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:07:38 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone have any suggestions on how to have 802.11 wireless for home users? Naturally it should be supported by FreeBSD. Configuruation can be done on any pc os though. My only affordable solution so far is to use the Apple AirPort base station, and wavelan pcmcia cards, but I don't know if they can co-exist, and the AirPort needs a Macintosh to configure. My idea of affordable for this is less then $500, the lucent wavelan solution works out to about $900 startup, that's a little out of my budget. Sameer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 20:20: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D7837B424 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13Vmnb-0004Az-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2000 23:19:55 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:19:55 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: affordable wireless Message-ID: <20000903231954.D10041@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu on Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 08:07:38PM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Sameer R. Manek" probably said: > My only affordable solution so far is to use the Apple AirPort base station, > and wavelan pcmcia cards, but I don't know if they can co-exist, and the > AirPort needs a Macintosh to configure. Not true. Java configuration; http://edge.mcs.drexel.edu/GICL/people/sevy/airport/ SNMP MIB; ftp://ucd-snmp.ucdavis.edu/contrib/wavelan-mib-0.1-1.tar.gz > My idea of affordable for this is less then $500, the lucent wavelan > solution works out to about $900 startup, that's a little out of my > budget. The newish lucent RG-1000 is under $400 with a silver card, around $320 without, and officially PC configurable. Personally I use a $100 486 laptop as a router, but will buy either an airport or an RG-1000 to get bridging and BSS (non-ad-hoc) which means powersave mode on the laptop clients which gives real battery life. You can put a gold card (and sell the internal silver) and put a range extender in an airport, if you're willing to lose the warrenty. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 20:24:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cgi.sstar.com (cgi.sstar.com [209.205.176.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5490F37B423 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluto.jimking.net (bluto.jimking.net [216.54.255.8]) by cgi.sstar.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16504; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 22:24:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Received: from marble (marble.lgc.com [134.132.228.4]) by bluto.jimking.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA99979; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 22:24:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Message-ID: <02b401c0161f$a2bb1220$04e48486@marble> From: "Jim King" To: "Sameer R. Manek" , References: Subject: Re: affordable wireless Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 22:24:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to have 802.11 wireless for home > users? Naturally it should be supported by FreeBSD. Configuruation can be > done on any pc os though. > > My only affordable solution so far is to use the Apple AirPort base station, > and wavelan pcmcia cards, but I don't know if they can co-exist, and the > AirPort needs a Macintosh to configure. My idea of affordable for this is > less then $500, the lucent wavelan solution works out to about $900 startup, > that's a little out of my budget. Check out the stuff at www.buffalotech.com. Their plain base station is $279, and is supposed to be compatible with anything that uses 802.11b, so hopefully it would work with the Lucent cards (about $190 each?). I haven't used their stuff or read any reviews on it, I just ran across one of their ads today. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 20:27:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606EE37B424 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (1Cust133.tnt1.chattanooga.tn.da.uu.net [63.26.81.133]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13351; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:25:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Warner Losh Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops In-Reply-To: <200009032229.e83MT9G07093@billy-club.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks Warner, I really feel guilty that this was so easy. The auto config worked first time. # TDK PCMCIA DF3000 Data/Fax modem card "TDK" "DF3000 Data/Fax Modem" config auto "sio" ? -- Jim Weeks On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > [[ Added stable back to the list, since this should go into the > archives ]] > > In message Jim Weeks writes: > : Configuration data for card in slot 0 > > First thing we need to do is get the mfg names. We look for the so > called "Version 1 info" tuple which has this information. Ah, here we > find it. > > : Tuple #2, code = 0x15 (Version 1 info), length = 46 > : 000: 05 00 54 44 4b 00 44 46 33 30 30 30 20 44 61 74 > : 010: 61 2f 46 61 78 20 4d 6f 64 65 6d 00 54 44 4b 20 > : 020: 53 79 73 74 65 6d 73 00 56 30 2e 30 00 ff > : Version = 5.0, Manuf = [TDK], card vers = [DF3000 Data/Fax Modem] > : Addit. info = [TDK Systems],[V0.0] > > This tells me that we should start with an entry that looks like: > > card "TDK" "DF3000 Data/Fax Modem" > config auto "sio" ? > > which should get you about 90% of the way there. If this doesn't > work, then we need to tweak the config line to not use auto. To do > that, you need to find the config entries for the CIS. These are in > the "Configuration Entry" (type 0x1b). > > : Tuple #14, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 20 > : 000: e0 41 9d 78 3d 86 46 26 4c e7 5f aa 60 f8 03 07 > : 010: 30 bc 86 28 > : Config index = 0x20(default) > : Interface byte = 0x41 (I/O) +RDY/-BSY active > : Vcc pwr: > : Continuous supply current: 3.5 x 10mA > : Max current average over 1 second: 1 x 100mA, ext = 0x46 > : Max current average over 10 ms: 2 x 100mA > : Power down supply current: 4.5 x 1mA > : RDY/BSY scale Speed = 5.0 x 10 ms, scaled by 10 > : Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only > : I/O address # 1: block start = 0x3f8 block length = 0x8 > : IRQ modes: Level > : IRQs: 2 3 4 5 7 9 10 15 > : Max twin cards = 0 > : Misc attr: (Audio-BVD2) (Power down supported) > : Tuple #15, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 > : 000: 21 08 aa 60 f8 02 07 > : Config index = 0x21 > : Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only > : I/O address # 1: block start = 0x2f8 block length = 0x8 > : Tuple #16, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 > : 000: 22 08 aa 60 e8 03 07 > : Config index = 0x22 > : Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only > : I/O address # 1: block start = 0x3e8 block length = 0x8 > : Tuple #17, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 > : 000: 23 08 aa 60 e8 02 07 > : Config index = 0x23 > : Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only > : I/O address # 1: block start = 0x2e8 block length = 0x8 > : Tuple #18, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 3 > : 000: 30 08 23 > : Config index = 0x30 > : Card decodes 3 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only > > OK. This tells me that this is a fairly standard modem card. They > seem to like to have config 0x2N map to what FreeBSD calles sioN (or > COM(N+1) in the DOS world). This means that you need to take into > account which COM ports are used in your laptop, and then pick the > next higher number: > > config 0x23 "sio" ? > > would likely be the right line. This card is different than most > cards in that it can also decode any address that you give it, which > means that > > config 0x30 "sio" ? > > might give you a better chance of having it work. In general I always > try to give the "auto" entry a chance, then look for an entry that has > one window mappable anywhere, then go for the specific entry if all > else fails. > > Warner > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 20:42: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAC737B423 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (1Cust133.tnt1.chattanooga.tn.da.uu.net [63.26.81.133]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26894; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:41:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Warner Losh Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One other note. This is a Compaq Presario 1200XL and only has the one serial port. I commented out sio1,sio2, and sio3 in kernel config and made a new kernel. This shifted the modem into sio1. I haven't configured PPP yet but I have no problem controlling the modem and dialing out with minicom. Thanks again, -- Jim Weeks On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > Thanks Warner, > > I really feel guilty that this was so easy. The auto config worked first > time. > > # TDK PCMCIA DF3000 Data/Fax modem > card "TDK" "DF3000 Data/Fax Modem" > config auto "sio" ? > > -- > Jim Weeks > > > On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > > > [[ Added stable back to the list, since this should go into the > > archives ]] > > > > In message Jim Weeks writes: > > : Configuration data for card in slot 0 > > > > First thing we need to do is get the mfg names. We look for the so > > called "Version 1 info" tuple which has this information. Ah, here we > > find it. > > > > : Tuple #2, code = 0x15 (Version 1 info), length = 46 > > : 000: 05 00 54 44 4b 00 44 46 33 30 30 30 20 44 61 74 > > : 010: 61 2f 46 61 78 20 4d 6f 64 65 6d 00 54 44 4b 20 > > : 020: 53 79 73 74 65 6d 73 00 56 30 2e 30 00 ff > > : Version = 5.0, Manuf = [TDK], card vers = [DF3000 Data/Fax Modem] > > : Addit. info = [TDK Systems],[V0.0] > > > > This tells me that we should start with an entry that looks like: > > > > card "TDK" "DF3000 Data/Fax Modem" > > config auto "sio" ? > > > > which should get you about 90% of the way there. If this doesn't > > work, then we need to tweak the config line to not use auto. To do > > that, you need to find the config entries for the CIS. These are in > > the "Configuration Entry" (type 0x1b). > > > > : Tuple #14, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 20 > > : 000: e0 41 9d 78 3d 86 46 26 4c e7 5f aa 60 f8 03 07 > > : 010: 30 bc 86 28 > > : Config index = 0x20(default) > > : Interface byte = 0x41 (I/O) +RDY/-BSY active > > : Vcc pwr: > > : Continuous supply current: 3.5 x 10mA > > : Max current average over 1 second: 1 x 100mA, ext = 0x46 > > : Max current average over 10 ms: 2 x 100mA > > : Power down supply current: 4.5 x 1mA > > : RDY/BSY scale Speed = 5.0 x 10 ms, scaled by 10 > > : Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only > > : I/O address # 1: block start = 0x3f8 block length = 0x8 > > : IRQ modes: Level > > : IRQs: 2 3 4 5 7 9 10 15 > > : Max twin cards = 0 > > : Misc attr: (Audio-BVD2) (Power down supported) > > : Tuple #15, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 > > : 000: 21 08 aa 60 f8 02 07 > > : Config index = 0x21 > > : Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only > > : I/O address # 1: block start = 0x2f8 block length = 0x8 > > : Tuple #16, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 > > : 000: 22 08 aa 60 e8 03 07 > > : Config index = 0x22 > > : Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only > > : I/O address # 1: block start = 0x3e8 block length = 0x8 > > : Tuple #17, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 > > : 000: 23 08 aa 60 e8 02 07 > > : Config index = 0x23 > > : Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only > > : I/O address # 1: block start = 0x2e8 block length = 0x8 > > : Tuple #18, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 3 > > : 000: 30 08 23 > > : Config index = 0x30 > > : Card decodes 3 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only > > > > OK. This tells me that this is a fairly standard modem card. They > > seem to like to have config 0x2N map to what FreeBSD calles sioN (or > > COM(N+1) in the DOS world). This means that you need to take into > > account which COM ports are used in your laptop, and then pick the > > next higher number: > > > > config 0x23 "sio" ? > > > > would likely be the right line. This card is different than most > > cards in that it can also decode any address that you give it, which > > means that > > > > config 0x30 "sio" ? > > > > might give you a better chance of having it work. In general I always > > try to give the "auto" entry a chance, then look for an entry that has > > one window mappable anywhere, then go for the specific entry if all > > else fails. > > > > Warner > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 20:53: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8514F37B423 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.11.1.Beta0/8.11.1.Beta0) id e843qwR83742; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:52:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14771.7322.795796.343503@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:52:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ipf vs IPv6 X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.2 (beta35) "Nike" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was considering switching from ipfw to ipf and wanted to give ipf a try. I've run into a road block. According to the ipfstat man page: ... SYNOPSIS ipfstat [ -6aAfghIinosv ] [ -d ] ... -6 Display filter lists for IPv6, if available. ... However when attempted: # ipfstat -6 Usage: ipfstat [-aAfhIinosv] [-d ] I see that if ipfstat were compiled with USE_INET6, it might work. This leads to the question, has the ipfilter code been compiled without IPv6 support on purpose (i.e., it doesn't work under FreeBSD yet so enabling it would cause problems) or would it be safe to turn on? Does the ipf kernel support include IPv6 (assuming the kernel has it)? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 21:40: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dna.tsolab.org (dna.rockefeller.edu [129.85.40.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5807B37B423 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dna.tsolab.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e844avI17647; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 00:36:57 -0400 From: "Dan Ts'o" Message-Id: <200009040436.e844avI17647@dna.tsolab.org> Subject: Re: affordable wireless To: manek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Sameer R. Manek) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 00:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Sameer R. Manek" at Sep 3, 0 08:07:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to have 802.11 wireless for home > users? Naturally it should be supported by FreeBSD. Configuruation can be > done on any pc os though. > > My only affordable solution so far is to use the Apple AirPort base station, > and wavelan pcmcia cards, but I don't know if they can co-exist, and the > AirPort needs a Macintosh to configure. My idea of affordable for this is > less then $500, the lucent wavelan solution works out to about $900 startup, > that's a little out of my budget. > I have pretty much done all of the above and it works fine. To wit: 1) it is not true that you need a MAC to configure the Airport, there are at least two to three alternatives, including a Jave configurator and a Windows program, Freebase. I have used both. You can find out about it all at www.macwindows.com. 2) The Airport really is a great product, combining a 56K modem, 10baseT port, router, NAT, DHCP and wireless for $300. It works very well and is flexible enough to do just about any combination you can think of. 3) Lucent Wavelan cards (Silver) interoperate great with the Airport. To run them on a "desktop" (Windows or FreeBSD), you will want the Lucent PC card to ISA adapter (I didn't try the PCI versiom having heard more config problems with it). It works fine with FreeBSD 4.0. I also did not try FreeBSD on a laptop with Wavelan. The Airport is $300. The Wavelan Silvers are $160. The ISA adapter is $60. So it is pretty affordable... Also neat are the Farallon Homeline products, particularly the Ethernet to Homeline adapter. With them, you can run Ethernet compatible networking across the phone lines in your house. I have the Airport connected to a Homeline adapter and a DSL line feeding another Homeline unit several rooms away. In a big house, you can use this to extend the wireless range without running cables anywhere. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 21:49:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hitpro.hitachi.co.jp (hitpro.hitachi.co.jp [133.145.224.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4929637B423 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bisdgw.bisd.hitachi.co.jp by hitpro.hitachi.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-hitpro) id NAA02131; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:49:09 +0900 (JST) Received: from plum.ssr.bisd.hitachi.co.jp by bisdgw.bisd.hitachi.co.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-bisdgw) with ESMTP id NAA06573; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:49:09 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp) Received: from localhost (IDENT:5dC8BJ2WryxtNqRmehMetct8KPtThTeVvIAvrghgBr78E0lBJvbYdAs1eahXiJzK@localhost [::1]) by plum.ssr.bisd.hitachi.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0/plum) with ESMTP/inet6 id e844n8707039; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:49:08 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp) Message-Id: <200009040449.e844n8707039@plum.ssr.bisd.hitachi.co.jp> To: gshapiro@gshapiro.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipf vs IPv6 From: Hajimu UMEMOTO In-Reply-To: <14771.7322.795796.343503@horsey.gshapiro.net> References: <14771.7322.795796.343503@horsey.gshapiro.net> X-Mailer: xcite1.20> Mew version 1.94.2 on Emacs 20.6 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) X-PGP-Fingerprint: D3 3D D3 54 88 13 DE 22 3F 31 C4 4D A1 08 84 7B X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp.asc X-URL: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 13:49:07 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000414(IM141) Lines: 17 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:52:58 -0700 (PDT) >>>>> gshapiro@gshapiro.net (Gregory Neil Shapiro) said: gshapiro> I see that if ipfstat were compiled with USE_INET6, it might work. This gshapiro> leads to the question, has the ipfilter code been compiled without IPv6 gshapiro> support on purpose (i.e., it doesn't work under FreeBSD yet so enabling it gshapiro> would cause problems) or would it be safe to turn on? Does the ipf kernel gshapiro> support include IPv6 (assuming the kernel has it)? 5-CURRENT seems to have ipfilter hook in sys/netinet6. I have no idea if it works. Is someone tried it? These hooks are not MFC'd to 4.1-STABLE, yet. -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Business Solution System Development Div., Hitachi Ltd. E-Mail: ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp ume@mahoroba.org ume@FreeBSD.org URL: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 21:51:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from campbell.cwx.net (Campbell.cwx.net [216.17.176.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E20C37B422 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from verinet.com (pragma. [192.168.1.2]) by campbell.cwx.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA48652; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 22:51:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Message-ID: <39B32A57.4F7C2F50@verinet.com> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 22:51:35 -0600 From: Allen Campbell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nate Williams Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad 16550A maybe? References: <39B19295.3D66E41@verinet.com> <200009030158.TAA01926@nomad.yogotech.com> <39B2BC5E.9E28EEA9@verinet.com> <200009040131.TAA11889@nomad.yogotech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nate Williams wrote: > > It's not a problem with older releases, so it's something that has been > 'pessimized' in later releases. Rather than working around the problem > and penalizing hardware, we should figure out what the problem is and > fix it. I have the hardware and the time. If anyone cares to try, they can have an account via ssh on this machine and perform the testing. Just say the word. -- Allen Campbell | Lurking at the bottom of the allenc@verinet.com | gravity well, getting old. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 3 22: 8: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE5A37B423 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 22:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e844uNP12678; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com( 207.76.205.64) by whistle.com via smap (V2.0) id xma012676; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:55:57 -0700 Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA93396; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:55:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:55:57 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200009040455.VAA93396@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, manek@ecst.csuchico.edu Subject: Re: affordable wireless In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From: "Sameer R. Manek" >Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:07:38 -0700 >Does anyone have any suggestions on how to have 802.11 wireless for home >users? Naturally it should be supported by FreeBSD. Configuruation can be >done on any pc os though. >My only affordable solution so far is to use the Apple AirPort base station, >and wavelan pcmcia cards, but I don't know if they can co-exist, and the >AirPort needs a Macintosh to configure. My idea of affordable for this is >less then $500, the lucent wavelan solution works out to about $900 startup, >that's a little out of my budget. I'm typing this note while I'm at home (no matter where the xterm process is running, it's being displayed on a laptop at home); the laptop in question is connected via a Cisco/Aironet card, and the access point is an Apple Airport. Weaknesses so far are configuring the Airport (it was configured for me, by someone who has access to the requisite software) and the lack (from what I hear) of 129-bit encryption support. The Aironet cards were US$167 each from pcwonders.com. Hope that's of some use, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator Desk: 650/577-7158 TIE: 8/499-7158 Cell: 650/759-0823 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 1:27:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moon.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813B837B424 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 01:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by moon.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01803; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:25:37 +0200 To: Allen Campbell Subject: Re: bad 16550A maybe? Message-ID: <968055937.39b35c819711e@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 10:25:37 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <39B19295.3D66E41@verinet.com> <200009030158.TAA01926@nomad.yogotech.com> <39B2BCD8.CCFF9655@verinet.com> In-Reply-To: <39B2BCD8.CCFF9655@verinet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r;q=1.0;iso-8859-1;q=0.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Just want to throw couple of bits to the thread, having exactly the same problem when syncing my pilot with ThinkPad 600E, adding flag 0x8 to the sio driver solved the problem (I think it did). This flag allows sooner recovery from lost interrupts. I read the code of sio.c but I cannot tell why this flag helps, in my opinion it's not related. Perhaps a coincidence.. But I agree that the trigger should be at least given as flag to the driver, or, if possible via the sysctl interface. Just my 0.02 $ Quoting Allen Campbell : > Nate Williams wrote: > > > > > > > Maybe. silo overflows happen because the machine is too slow > to > > > > > service the interrupt before the buffer overflows (but unless > it is a > > > > > 386SX25 you should have enough CPU power). It can also be > caused by > > > > > baud rate mismatches, but that's fairly rare and unusual (you > usually > > > > > get framing errors from a 16550A in this case). This can also > be > > > > > caused by other hardware misbehaving and blocking interrupts. > > > > > > > > I ran a 386SX16 under DOS 5 / DESQView (~10 tasks in 6Mb) using > David > > > > Nugent's BNU FOSSIL driver as a Fidonet mailer/BBS for almost 9 > years, > > > > hardly ever seeing 16550A overflows at 14 byte thresholds, albeit > 14.4k. > > > > > > You actually run a 386SX25? I have a 486/133 that has always > > > experienced intense SILO overflows (yes, it is a true 16550, bought > > > specifically to address this,) under FreeBSD. > > > > Which version of FreeBSD? I've been running (well, I quit the > company, > > but the box is still up) a 486/66 with 4 16550A's running full-blast @ > > 115K on the modems with nary a problem. > > 4.0-STABLE at the moment. The problem began somewhere in the 3.X > series. Prior to 3.X, I never saw a SILO overflow from this machine. > > > The box is a firewall, DNS, email, and modem server for a small > office, > > and is working great. > > > > The only modifications were to continually upgrade the software such > as > > BIND and SENDMAIL where remote root exploits were possible, but > > otherwise it's a stock FreeBSD 2.2.8 system. (No X, of course.) > > > > > I suspect the problem is exasperated by PIO mode IDE and an ISA > > > NE2000. Anyhow, the threshold most definitely MUST be lowered when > > > communicating at >50Kbps with my USR modem. > > > > We're running the same setup (PIO IDE and a NE2000), and I've ran all > 4 > > modems (2 USR Sportsters and 2 USR V.Everythings) full-blast one day > to > > see how well it would handle it. Not once did it even hiccup or lose > > packets. > > Try loading the IDE drive and the NE2000 at the same time. I don't see > SILO overflows while the box is simply driving the serial port, but let > some other host on my network make the NFS exported drives busy while > the modem is working and the SILO overflows erupt. > > Nate, I don't know what to say to this except you only need to search > -questions or usenet to find countless examples of the same problem with > the same symptoms being reported. These people have no agenda other > than fixing the problem. Perhaps the PIC/chipset implementation makes > this less cut and dry and, in your case, you got lucky. Maybe it's the > early version of FreeBSD you are running. Sun spots perhaps? I don't > know. > > > > I would kill for a kernel option that makes patching unnecessary but > > > the attitude, as expressed above, that anything faster than a > 386SX25 > > > can not possibly be too slow seems to preclude this. > > > > I'm with Rod Grimes in stating that something happened in later > releases > > of FreeBSD that makes this difficult or impossible. > > Huh? > > Jim King posted the patch that does the trick earlier in this thread. I > know for fact this works. I've been applying something similar to sio.c > since 3.1-RELEASE. It basically makes a one line change that lowers the > 16550A threshold to 8 bytes. How is it difficult or impossible to > accommodate this with an #ifdef based on a kernel option, i.e. option > 16550_LOW_THRESHOLD... ? > > And here it is again: > > --- sio.c.orig Wed Aug 16 09:29:34 2000 > +++ sio.c Fri Sep 1 14:53:47 2000 > @@ -2345,7 +2345,7 @@ > * latencies are larger. > */ > com->fifo_image = t->c_ospeed <= 4800 > - ? FIFO_ENABLE : FIFO_ENABLE | > FIFO_RX_HIGH; > + ? FIFO_ENABLE : FIFO_ENABLE | > FIFO_RX_MEDH; > #ifdef COM_ESP > /* > * The Hayes ESP card needs the fifo DMA mode bit set > > -- > Allen Campbell | Lurking at the bottom of the > allenc@verinet.com | gravity well, getting old. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 3:57:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oden.exmandato.se (oden.exmandato.se [192.71.33.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B8337B42C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 03:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from servicefactory.se (root@oden.exmandato.se [192.71.33.1]) by oden.exmandato.se (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25288; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:57:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <39B38006.71AB09FC@servicefactory.se> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 12:57:10 +0200 From: Jonas Bulow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kmays Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops References: <019c01c014fe$4279c860$8a42163f@KenMays> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kmays wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Has anyone sat down and tested loading FreeBSD v4.1 > on IBM Thinkpads and other laptops?? I was looking into > installing it on some of my older laptops and wondered what are the trails > and errors in doing this. I have used FreeBSD 3.x on IBM TP 770 and 570 and 600X. I have used FreeBSD 4.x on 600X. You usually get some hints by looking at Linux how-to:s for laptops, especially configuring XFree86. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 6:35: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com [155.208.254.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83EF37B42C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 06:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (hpcpbla.bri.hp.com [15.144.112.65]) by bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC8E15CEB; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:34:40 +0200 (METDST) Received: from sse0691.bri.hp.com (sse0691.bri.hp.com [15.144.0.53]) by hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id OAA27340; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:34:38 +0100 (BST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by sse0691.bri.hp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12946; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:37:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:37:36 +0100 From: Steve Roome To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GCC bug with 4.1-stable Message-ID: <20000904143736.A12903@moose.bri.hp.com> References: <20000831133004.B90719@moose.bri.hp.com> <200008312111.OAA29206@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200008312111.OAA29206@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 02:11:18PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 02:11:18PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, Steve Roome wrote: > > Yes, the actual problem seems to be "-mno-move -mcpu=pentiumpro", even > > with -O0 this will crash. [which gcc explaining it has crashed, not > > just some random sig11 that some git is going to argue is RAM > > related!] > > Have you launched this at the GCC folks? Yup. IIRC, it's optimization/496 (can't check at the moment though) > > The other problem is slightly odd : > > > > gcc -mno-ieee-fp -march=pentiumpro -c particlesys.c -o particlesys.o > > gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 > > *** Error code 1 > > Signal 11 is a segmentation violation. Usually dereferencing an > uninitialized, null or trashed pointer. Yup, it's only seeming to happen with -mno-ieee-fp and pentiumpro options. So I guess there really is something screwy there. I'll file a pr for this. Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 6:51:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moon.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E4B37B423 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 06:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by moon.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02239 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:50:17 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: rpc.lockd Message-ID: <968075417.39b3a89963cd1@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 15:50:17 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r;q=1.0;iso-8859-1;q=0.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, The rpc.lockd(8) is marked as broken in /etc/defaults/rc.conf in 4.1-R My question is - how bad is it broken? I'm asking this question because in our current setup consider the following situation: clients->[smb]->linux2.2.16(with local raid and nfs)->[nfs]->FreeBSD4.1-R Before the FreeBSD there was quantum-snap server which had limited nfs2 protocol, and didn't allow chown/chgrp and links, thus it had to be replaced. Now, many windows clients cannot open their files, they click on it but get all kinds of weird errors (I cannot post them since I'm not there at the moment, and microsoft error messages are hard to remember. It *looks* like a locking problem to me, but I didn't investigate it yet. Did anyone experience this phenomena? Meanwhile I added "-2" to flags to mountd, and waiting for people there to test it. Is there some known issues with FreeBSD nfs vs. Linux nfs? P.S. it's isn't suitable to install samba on the freebsd machine in our situation, though I can bet that it would have worked much better. --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 7:18:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCEAF37B423 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 07:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22788; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:16:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200009041416.KAA22788@world.std.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: SBLive w/ECC RAM, 4.1-stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello -stable: What is the status of SBLive support in systems with ECC RAM? IIRC, this is still in -current and has not yet been MFCed. (?) If this is indeed the case, when is a "reasonably anticipated" date for -stable to receive this support? Is this something I might be able to help test? If this *has* been MFCed, when *did* SBLive/ECC support become available in FreeBSD? (example: 4.0-{R,S}, 4.1-{R-s} as of some date) OS is RELENG_4, last updated via cvsup Friday, 1 September 2000. Driver (that I'm aware of & have now) is: * $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pci/emu10k1.c,v 1.6.2.2 2000/08/20 00:43:55 cg Exp $ Where is the best place to find information about installing & operating this soundcard in FreeBSD? (examples: kernel config & device/MAKEDEV names/instructions, features, etc.) Documentation and/or FAQ pointers most welcome. Many thanks, -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 8:40:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.runapplications.com (www.runapplications.com [196.3.153.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C8537B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.runapplications.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.runapplications.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 420F178245; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 10:38:03 -0500 (EST) From: cyber@colis.com Reply-To: gsmith@colis.com To: Mike Tancsa , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RAID Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 10:31:06 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have vinum running on a free mail server in a Raid 5 configuration, It is a lot faster than low end hardware raid solutions. The machine has 2 cpus (Abit dual celeron motherboard) so Raid 5 calculation is not a problem. Hope this helps. On Sun, 03 Sep 2000, Mike Tancsa wrote: > I am putting together a new POP3 server and am looking at various RAID > solutions. I have a couple of boxes deployed using 3ware IDE controllers > as well as a Mylex DAC960 and a MegaRAID 428. For RAID0, the 3ware cards > seem to perform quite well (I am using them for USENET and proxy > servers). But for the POP3, I need something with a little more > performance than I seem to get with the 3ware, Mylex and MegaRAID cards. > (The 3ware is *REALLY* slow in RAID1, dont know about RAID 10). Has anyone > tried the new Adaptec 2100S cards ? I dont want to shell out $500 bucks if > they are not that much better than the DAC960s. What about vinum ? Is > anyone using it in a production machine ? Is it reliable and ready for > prime time ? I want to do either RAID5 or 10 in order to get speed and > reliability. > > Thanks, > > ---Mike > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 > Network Administration, mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 9: 8:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2CD37B424 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e84G7wV18490; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:07:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 12:02:41 -0400 To: gsmith@colis.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: RAID In-Reply-To: <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> References: <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:31 AM 9/3/2000 -0500, cyber@colis.com wrote: >I have vinum running on a free mail server in a Raid 5 configuration, It is a >lot faster than low end hardware raid solutions. The machine has 2 cpus (Abit >dual celeron motherboard) so Raid 5 calculation is not a problem. >Hope this helps. Thanks! Have you had any drives go bad in production ? Was vinum able to work around it no problem ? Any caveats ? Thanks, ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 9: 8:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB5F37B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e84G8p904193 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:08:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (root@niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id SAA01440 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:08:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from (talon@localhost) by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id SAA05165 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:08:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:08:51 +0200 From: Michel TALON To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: some problems with 4.1 stable Message-ID: <20000904180850.A5141@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have just made world from cvsup done last friday. All went fine but from 3 hours of compilation on a Pentium 300 with 256Megs (when doing 3.* it was not much than 1 hour). The machine works except some problems. First i wanted to use sysinstall to format a new disk. It ends out with no disks found. Thinking a new sysinstall was needed i tried to recompile it. But no luck! cc -Os -march=pentiumpro -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../gnu/lib/libdialog -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../sys -c kget.c kget.c:40: machine/uc_device.h: No such file or directory kget.c: In function `kget': kget.c:83: sizeof applied to an incomplete type kget.c:85: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type kget.c:86: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type kget.c: .... Other problem, the USB ports don't work any more (they worked with 4.0 stable). I get uhub0: port 2 power on failed, IOERROR messages. Incidentally, i have installed 4.1 RELEASE on a new machine at home. It has an Abit mobo with Duron and Via chipset. Here usb don't work either. This problem has been reported for via chipsets, but this machine here is pure intel. Moreover smbus etc. does not seem to work, as reported by lmmon. lmmon IOCTL: Device not configured I have never seen this working. Of course lmmon -i works. Finally, i have a very long timeout at boot, probing the ata disks. This i have observed since 4.0. I had only an atapi cdrom on the primary channel, and had a long pause at boot. It disappeared when i added an ata disk on the primary and put the cdrom on the secondary. But now with 4.1 Stable, the pause is still here. Nevertheless things come out fine, and both disk and cdrom work OK. For reference, here is the complete dmesg. Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Mon Sep 4 15:22:26 CEST 2000 talon@niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NIOBE Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (300.68-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x634 Stepping = 4 Features=0x80f9ff real memory = 268435456 (262144K bytes) avail memory = 257818624 (251776K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0378000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 9 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 11 at device 4.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub0: port 1 power on failed, IOERROR uhub0: port 2 power on failed, IOERROR intpm0: port 0xe800-0xe80f irq 9 at device 4.3 on pci0 intpm0: I/O mapped e800 intpm0: intr IRQ 9 enabled revision 0 smbus0: on intsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 intpm0: PM I/O mapped e400 xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xd000-0xd07f mem 0xe1000000-0xe100007f irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:3b:ae:03 miibus0: on xl0 xlphy0: <3Com internal media interface> on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto sym0: <875> port 0xb800-0xb8ff mem 0xe0000000-0xe0000fff,0xe0800000-0xe08000ff irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 sym0: Tekram NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, SE, parity checking fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 joy0 at port 0x201 on isa0 sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,3 on isa0 sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 3 pcm0: on sbc0 joy1: at port 0x200 on isa0 ad0: 1222MB [2484/16/63] at ata0-master using WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using PIO3 Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (probe5:sym0:0:5:0): phase change 6-7 6@0fcf4f8c resid=4. Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 3090MB (6328861 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 393C) -- Michel TALON To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 9:19:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.runapplications.com (www.runapplications.com [196.3.153.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A1A37B424 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.runapplications.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.runapplications.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B31BF78245; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 11:17:13 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Smith Reply-To: cyber@colis.com To: Mike Tancsa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 11:13:56 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00090311171301.06153@www.runapplications.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have not had any drives go bad in production so I have not gotten a chance to try the recovery options (not that I want it to happen). I have no caveats so far. On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 10:31 AM 9/3/2000 -0500, cyber@colis.com wrote: > >I have vinum running on a free mail server in a Raid 5 configuration, It is a > >lot faster than low end hardware raid solutions. The machine has 2 cpus (Abit > >dual celeron motherboard) so Raid 5 calculation is not a problem. > >Hope this helps. > > Thanks! Have you had any drives go bad in production ? Was vinum able to > work around it no problem ? Any caveats ? > > Thanks, > > ---Mike > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 > Network Administration, mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 11:36:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from brainy.ilsmart.com (brainy.ilsmart.com [206.175.69.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEC437B43F for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from svr03.ilsmart.com (ilsinet.go-ils.com [206.175.69.228]) by brainy.ilsmart.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e84IaT559412; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:36:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from NT2NOTES.ilsmart.com ([209.154.176.3]) by svr03.ilsmart.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.2c (Intl)) with ESMTP id 2000090413370399:8838 ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:37:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Compaq Smart Array 431 support To: "Jim C. Nasby" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a (Intl) 23 November 1999 Message-ID: From: bgoering@ilsmart.com Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:34:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NT2NOTES/ILS(Release 5.0.2c (Intl)|2 February 2000) at 09/04/2000 01:42:02 PM, Itemize by SMTP Server on ILSINET/ILS(Release 5.0.2c (Intl)|2 February 2000) at 09/04/2000 01:37:04 PM, Serialize by Router on ILSINET/ILS(Release 5.0.2c (Intl)|2 February 2000) at 09/04/2000 01:37:05 PM, Serialize complete at 09/04/2000 01:37:05 PM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jim, Yes, I am using this controller. One note...it did NOT get recognized by the 4.1 release CD, the ida driver was fixed shortly after release to recognize this card. I ended up doing a ftp install from a stable snapshot. Bill "Jim C. Nasby" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sent by: cc: owner-freebsd-stable@F Subject: Compaq Smart Array 431 support reeBSD.ORG 09/03/2000 12:28 AM Is anyone using this controller on 4-STABLE? It's not listed as supported hardware on http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install-hw.html. This will be a production box, so I'd rather stay away from -CURRENT, as well as any beta drivers. -- Jim C. Nasby (aka Decibel!) /^\ jim@nasby.net /___\ Freelance lighting designer and database developer / | \ Member: Triangle Fraternity, Sports Car Club of America /___|___\ Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828 Get paid to surf!! http://www.enteract.com/~nasby/alladvantage.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 12:13:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from linum.cofc.edu (linum.cofc.edu [153.9.35.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5287537B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from astrand@localhost) by linum.cofc.edu (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e84JDSK00483; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:13:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from astrand) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mounting ATAPI cdroms References: <20000904180850.A5141@lpthe.jussieu.fr> From: Allan Strand Date: 04 Sep 2000 15:13:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: Michel TALON's message of "Mon, 04 Sep 2000 18:08:51 +0200" Message-ID: <86snrgug13.fsf@linum.cofc.edu> Lines: 16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have the problems with mounting ATAPI CDROMs been resolved in the stable branch? I did a fresh cvsup last night (9/3/00), made world and a new kernel this morning, and I am still unable to mount my CDRW drive. Potentially this is a problem with my hardware, although the drive is able to write CDROMs and play music CDs. If mounting CDROMS is working for everyone else, then I'll suspect my hardware. a. -- Allan Strand, Biology http://linum.cofc.edu College of Charleston Ph. (843) 953-8085 Charleston, SC 29424 Fax (843) 953-5453 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 12:51:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF67C37B423 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e84Jp5U29707; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009041951.e84Jp5U29707@ptavv.es.net> To: Michel TALON Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: some problems with 4.1 stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Sep 2000 18:08:51 +0200." <20000904180850.A5141@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 12:51:05 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:08:51 +0200 > From: Michel TALON > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > I have just made world from cvsup done last friday. All went fine > but from 3 hours of compilation on a Pentium 300 with 256Megs > (when doing 3.* it was not much than 1 hour). The machine works except some > problems. > > First i wanted to use sysinstall to format a new disk. It ends out with > no disks found. Thinking a new sysinstall was needed i tried to recompile it. > But no luck! > > cc -Os -march=pentiumpro -pipe -Wall > -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../gnu/lib/libdialog > -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../sys -c > kget.c > kget.c:40: machine/uc_device.h: No such file or directory > kget.c: In function `kget': > kget.c:83: sizeof applied to an incomplete type > kget.c:85: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > kget.c:86: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > kget.c: .... You do need to rebuild sysinstall. To do so, go to /usr/src/release/sysinstall and "make all install". Builds fine on all of my systems, but you are using somewhat different compile options. I use: "cc -O -pipe -Wall". I can't see why the -march option should cause these errors, though. I would be more suspicious of -Os. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 13:26:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (veldy-host201.dsl.visi.com [208.42.48.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBF837B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by veldy.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EFB2771; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:27:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AB56D for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:27:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:27:32 -0500 (CDT) From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: blankcd broken? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a Hewlett Packard CD-Writer Plus 9100 internal ATAPI burner. I also have the VIA 82C686 chipset (ATA66). I get the following error when I try to blank a CD(RW), 8x/4x media. # burncd -f /dev/acd1c -s 4 blank blanking CD, please wait.. burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCBLANK): Input/output error The console also report the following: acd1: BLANK_CMD - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=27 ascq=00 error=04 The relevent dmesg output is: atapci0: port 0x1460-0x146f at device 7.1 on pci0 acd1: CD-RW at ata1-slave using UDMA33 I have tried other pieces of media to no avail. All work fine with the same hardware on Linux using cdrecord and Windows 9x and 2000 using Easy CD-Creator. Thanks in advance, Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 13:43: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41B937B424 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07463; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 13:42:55 -0700 Message-ID: <39B4094F.AE80D7C2@urx.com> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 13:42:55 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Dynacom Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan Strand Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mounting ATAPI cdroms References: <20000904180850.A5141@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <86snrgug13.fsf@linum.cofc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Allan Strand wrote: > > Have the problems with mounting ATAPI CDROMs been resolved in the > stable branch? > > I did a fresh cvsup last night (9/3/00), made world and a new kernel > this morning, and I am still unable to mount my CDRW drive. > Potentially this is a problem with my hardware, although the drive is > able to write CDROMs and play music CDs. If mounting CDROMS is > working for everyone else, then I'll suspect my hardware. From http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/ata/atapi-cd.c it was fixed on 25 August 2000. The mounting error made it look like an audio cd was being mounted. The messages were > : > : RRIP without PX field? > : > : Aug 25 03:59:15 jade /kernel: RRIP without PX field? > : > : Aug 25 03:59:15 jade /kernel: RRIP without PX field? If you are still seeing these, then you didn't install your kernel :). Kent > > a. > > -- > Allan Strand, Biology http://linum.cofc.edu > College of Charleston Ph. (843) 953-8085 > Charleston, SC 29424 Fax (843) 953-5453 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 14:13:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cornell.edu (cornell.edu [132.236.56.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B84E37B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sideshow-mel (dhcp-120.csuglab.cornell.edu [132.236.227.120]) by cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA04177 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:13:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20000904171350.00de3900@postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu> X-Sender: nop1@postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) -- [Cornell Modified] Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 17:13:50 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Nikita Proskourine Subject: problems with make world (Sunday) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I am a newbie to FreeBSD development, so please bear with me. I am currently using FreeBSD-4.0 RELEASE. I did a fresh cvsup (using RELENG_4 tag, that would get me a stable branch, right?) and "make world" on Sunday and the build failed somewhere in objc contribs for gcc. I made logs of the build and will send them later today. In the meantime, I was wondering if this is a known problem and whether there are workarounds for this. Nikita. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 14:28:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4842237B423 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07622; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 14:28:09 -0700 Message-ID: <39B413E9.8BDC7910@urx.com> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 14:28:09 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikita Proskourine Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with make world (Sunday) References: <3.0.3.32.20000904171350.00de3900@postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nikita Proskourine wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am a newbie to FreeBSD development, so please bear with me. I am > currently using FreeBSD-4.0 RELEASE. I did a fresh cvsup (using RELENG_4 > tag, that would get me a stable branch, right?) and "make world" on Sunday > and the build failed somewhere in objc contribs for gcc. > > I made logs of the build and will send them later today. In the meantime, I > was wondering if this is a known problem and whether there are workarounds > for this. You didn't read /usr/src/UPDATING. It tells you that you can try a "make world" but if it fails don't complain until you have tried the buildworld, build[install}kernel, installworld sequence. A lot changed between 4.0 and 4.1. For example, a kernel build using the config is not supported after a cvsup. It may work but there can be changes that the buildkernel mode will process. Your kernel config file can be different. You need to compare what you have against GENERIC. It has been 4 or 5 days since I did a cvsup and all of the builds and installs. Kent > > Nikita. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 14:43:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C1E37B422; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA67519; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:43:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Steve Roome Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GCC bug with 4.1-stable In-Reply-To: <20000904143736.A12903@moose.bri.hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Steve Roome wrote: > Yup, it's only seeming to happen with -mno-ieee-fp and pentiumpro > options. So I guess there really is something screwy there. > > I'll file a pr for this. I don't think there's much point in filing a FreeBSD PR because no-one here is likely to dive in and fix the bug in gcc. Much better to take it up with the gcc developers directly. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 15: 3:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD63337B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp26130024.columbus.rr.com [24.26.130.24]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07206 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:02:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39B41D85.E9693EED@columbus.rr.com> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 18:09:09 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with make world (Sunday) References: <3.0.3.32.20000904171350.00de3900@postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu> <39B413E9.8BDC7910@urx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What I've seen in the UPDATING file seems to refer to 3.X upgraded to 4.X As far as I can tell there is no special documented procedure for updating within the 4.X line. Should be able to do everything in the ordinary way. I've done it that way on the current system. Along those same lines ... I'm having trouble with one of my 4.0 servers trying to update it to 4.1 and getting all kinds of weird errors in doing the kernel. Just re-cvsuped and trying again. I cvsuped on Sunday as well. I think maybe something in the system was broken. -Bill Kent Stewart wrote: > You didn't read /usr/src/UPDATING. It tells you that you can try a > "make world" but if it fails don't complain until you have tried the > buildworld, build[install}kernel, installworld sequence. A lot changed > between 4.0 and 4.1. For example, a kernel build using the config is > not supported after a cvsup. It may work but there can be changes that > the buildkernel mode will process. Your kernel config file can be > different. You need to compare what you have against GENERIC. > > It has been 4 or 5 days since I did a cvsup and all of the builds and > installs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 15:14:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC2437B43E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23254; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:14:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA26436; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:13:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009042213.QAA26436@harmony.village.org> To: Bill Moran Subject: Re: problems with make world (Sunday) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Sep 2000 18:09:09 EDT." <39B41D85.E9693EED@columbus.rr.com> References: <39B41D85.E9693EED@columbus.rr.com> <3.0.3.32.20000904171350.00de3900@postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu> <39B413E9.8BDC7910@urx.com> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 16:13:51 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <39B41D85.E9693EED@columbus.rr.com> Bill Moran writes: : As far as I can tell there is no special documented procedure for : updating within the 4.X line. Should be able to do everything in the : ordinary way. I've done it that way on the current system. From UPDATING: To update from 4.0-RELEASE or later to the most current 4.x-STABLE ---------- ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 15:54:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from travelers.mail.cornell.edu (travelers.mail.cornell.edu [132.236.56.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1105037B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from travelers.mail.cornell.edu (travelers.mail.cornell.edu [132.236.56.13]) by travelers.mail.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA18934 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:54:22 -0400 (EDT) From: nop1@cornell.edu Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:54:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: nop1@travelers.mail.cornell.edu To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problems with make world (Sunday) In-Reply-To: <20000904151701.B28288@sendmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi again, I did another cvsup (several, in fact) before posting my first message. I also tried "make buildworld" several times after the first build failed. Of course, I removed obj directory in a manner similar to what was suggested by some of you each time. I am using a very simple script that automates the build from freebsddiary.org Yes, it is the build that fails, not the install. If I remember correctly, the build does not even finish building all the stuff in the tools stage (but proceeds for a long time with no errors). I guess you'll have to wait until I am done with my work for the day and get back to the (non-networked) machine on which I have the build logs and post excerpts from them. My only guess at this point is that I managed to not have some C/C++ libraries installed... Well, FreeBSD 4.0 install from the CD set is quite buggy, given that there are 4 CDs and some of the packages/distributions on the first CD are dependent on packages on other CDs and fail to install from the /stand/sysinstall, not even prompting you for the other CD. So that could have happened. I am still hunting down various components across CDs and adding them with pkg_add. -j4 should only affect number of simultaneous processes. Since I have a dual-processor machine, I may try -j8. Thanks for assuring me that the branch is not broken. I was about to ditch FreeBSD with disgust thinking that "these losers even have their stable branch broken...". Just kidding! Nikita. On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Erick Mechler wrote: > Try doing this: > > 1. do another cvsup to make sure that you got everything (and yes, using > RELENG_4 will give you the latest -STABLE in the 4.x branch). > 2. cd /usr/src > 3. make -j4 buildworld > 4. iff no errors, do make -j4 installworld > > You shouldn't have any problems with this, since I just did a sup this > morning and the world built fine. > > BTW, I would highly recommend not using "make world", since this does the > build and install all at once. If things go wrong during the build, you > won't have a chance to fix them before the world is installed. By > splitting them up with buildworld and installworld, you give yourself the > chance to fix buildworld problems before you install them. > > Also note that to upgrade your kernel (which you have to do every time > you do an installworld), continue on as such: > > 5. cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > 6. cp GENERIC > 7. Edit to your liking (be sure to check out > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT which has all the possible config options. > 8. cd /usr/src/ > 9. make -j4 buildkernel > 10. iff no errors, make -j4 installkernel > > The notes say to drop to single user before you do installworlds, but I > haven't had any problems doing them in multiuser mode (besides, I don't > have a console on my BSD machine, so single user is pretty difficult). > > Good luck, and let me know if you have any problems. > > Regards, > Erick > > At Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:13:50PM -0400, Nikita Proskourine said this: > :: Hi all, > :: > :: I am a newbie to FreeBSD development, so please bear with me. I am > :: currently using FreeBSD-4.0 RELEASE. I did a fresh cvsup (using RELENG_4 > :: tag, that would get me a stable branch, right?) and "make world" on Sunday > :: and the build failed somewhere in objc contribs for gcc. > :: > :: I made logs of the build and will send them later today. In the meantime, I > :: was wondering if this is a known problem and whether there are workarounds > :: for this. > :: > :: Nikita. > :: > :: > :: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > :: with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 15:59:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D9037B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp26130024.columbus.rr.com [24.26.130.24]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13590 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39B42A92.32773080@columbus.rr.com> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 19:04:50 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with make world (Sunday) References: <39B41D85.E9693EED@columbus.rr.com> <3.0.3.32.20000904171350.00de3900@postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu> <39B413E9.8BDC7910@urx.com> <200009042213.QAA26436@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oops ... my mistake. A bit further down in the file there ... Warner Losh wrote:  > >From UPDATING: > > To update from 4.0-RELEASE or later to the most current > 4.x-STABLE > ---------- > ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 16:18:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A4B37B423 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06491; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.9.3/8.7.3) id QAA58662; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:18:14 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: nop1@cornell.edu Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problems with make world (Sunday) Message-ID: <20000904161814.A58272@tao.thought.org> References: <20000904151701.B28288@sendmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from nop1@cornell.edu on Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 06:54:22PM -0400 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 06:54:22PM -0400, nop1@cornell.edu wrote: > Hi again, > > I did another cvsup (several, in fact) before posting my first message. I > also tried "make buildworld" several times after the first build failed. > Of course, I removed obj directory in a manner similar to what was > suggested by some of you each time. I am using a very simple script that > automates the build from freebsddiary.org > > Yes, it is the build that fails, not the install. If I remember correctly, > the build does not even finish building all the stuff in the tools stage > (but proceeds for a long time with no errors). I guess you'll have to wait > until I am done with my work for the day and get back to the > (non-networked) machine on which I have the build logs and post excerpts > from them. > > My only guess at this point is that I managed to not have some C/C++ > libraries installed... Well, FreeBSD 4.0 install from the CD set is quite > buggy, given that there are 4 CDs and some of the packages/distributions > on the first CD are dependent on packages on other CDs and fail to install > from the /stand/sysinstall, not even prompting you for the other CD. So > that could have happened. I am still hunting down various components > across CDs and adding them with pkg_add. > > -j4 should only affect number of simultaneous processes. Since I have a > dual-processor machine, I may try -j8. > > Thanks for assuring me that the branch is not broken. I was about to ditch > FreeBSD with disgust thinking that "these losers even have their stable > branch broken...". Just kidding! > For the record, I just cvsup'ed this morning Monday, 04sep00) and buildworld hangs here: ===> objdump cc -O -pipe -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../libbfd/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../libbinutils -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/binutils -DBFD_VERSION=\"2.10.0\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/binutils/objdump.c cc -O -pipe -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../libbfd/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../libbinutils -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/binutils -DBFD_VERSION=\"2.10.0\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/binutils/prdbg.c cc -O -pipe -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../libbfd/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../libbinutils -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/binutils -DBFD_VERSION=\"2.10.0\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -o objdump objdump.o prdbg.o ../libbinutils/libbinutils.a ../libopcodes/libopcodes.a ../libbfd/libbfd.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a(choose-temp.o): In function `make_temp_file': choose-temp.o(.text+0x264): undefined reference to `mkstemps' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 My /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 is patched to include chmod, &c.. but maybe this snippet will lend a clue. I'm finally nearing the point where I'll have time to actually _finish_ my up-rev.... but now it's up to the build wizards to puzzle out this bug. gary -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 16:26:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987EC37B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp26130024.columbus.rr.com [24.26.130.24]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17128 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:25:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39B430E4.DA0D6B66@columbus.rr.com> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 19:31:48 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with make world (Sunday) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Personally, I'm having nothing but grief! This is one of those odd times when I figured ... "I never have any trouble upgrading via cvsup ... I'll just do it now" (on a production machine) Well ... step one is to smack myself for being stupid, step two is to get this machine working correctly again, step 3 is to never EVER do anything this stupid again. If anyone is curious, or has any ideas what's wrong ... here are the symptoms: 1. I cvsupped to current 4.1-STABLE from 4.0-STABLE(June 3) 2. make buildworld 3. Attempted to compile a kernel ... lots-o-errors cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf;/usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL All manner of complaints of errors in the kernel config file 4. Tried to do cd /usr/src;make buildkernel error: no such target (Here's where frustration and lack of sleep bred superior stupidity) 5. make installworld (I have no idea what I was thinking at this point ...) Of course ... now I can't do a ps, or top or anything like that ... the machine is still responding and doing its job (as a web server) So I'm super lucky on that point. Anyway, I tried recreating new config file from GENERIC, but I'm looking at GENERIC and it's dated March 1??? What's that about. I'm going to cvsdown to 4.0-STABLE and try to rebuild world - we'll see what happens ... -Bill nop1@cornell.edu wrote: > > Hi again, > > I did another cvsup (several, in fact) before posting my first message. I > also tried "make buildworld" several times after the first build failed. > Of course, I removed obj directory in a manner similar to what was > suggested by some of you each time. I am using a very simple script that > automates the build from freebsddiary.org > > Yes, it is the build that fails, not the install. If I remember correctly, > the build does not even finish building all the stuff in the tools stage > (but proceeds for a long time with no errors). I guess you'll have to wait > until I am done with my work for the day and get back to the > (non-networked) machine on which I have the build logs and post excerpts > from them. > > My only guess at this point is that I managed to not have some C/C++ > libraries installed... Well, FreeBSD 4.0 install from the CD set is quite > buggy, given that there are 4 CDs and some of the packages/distributions > on the first CD are dependent on packages on other CDs and fail to install > from the /stand/sysinstall, not even prompting you for the other CD. So > that could have happened. I am still hunting down various components > across CDs and adding them with pkg_add. > > -j4 should only affect number of simultaneous processes. Since I have a > dual-processor machine, I may try -j8. > > Thanks for assuring me that the branch is not broken. I was about to ditch > FreeBSD with disgust thinking that "these losers even have their stable > branch broken...". Just kidding! > > Nikita. > > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Erick Mechler wrote: > > > Try doing this: > > > > 1. do another cvsup to make sure that you got everything (and yes, using > > RELENG_4 will give you the latest -STABLE in the 4.x branch). > > 2. cd /usr/src > > 3. make -j4 buildworld > > 4. iff no errors, do make -j4 installworld > > > > You shouldn't have any problems with this, since I just did a sup this > > morning and the world built fine. > > > > BTW, I would highly recommend not using "make world", since this does the > > build and install all at once. If things go wrong during the build, you > > won't have a chance to fix them before the world is installed. By > > splitting them up with buildworld and installworld, you give yourself the > > chance to fix buildworld problems before you install them. > > > > Also note that to upgrade your kernel (which you have to do every time > > you do an installworld), continue on as such: > > > > 5. cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > > 6. cp GENERIC > > 7. Edit to your liking (be sure to check out > > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT which has all the possible config options. > > 8. cd /usr/src/ > > 9. make -j4 buildkernel > > 10. iff no errors, make -j4 installkernel > > > > The notes say to drop to single user before you do installworlds, but I > > haven't had any problems doing them in multiuser mode (besides, I don't > > have a console on my BSD machine, so single user is pretty difficult). > > > > Good luck, and let me know if you have any problems. > > > > Regards, > > Erick > > > > At Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:13:50PM -0400, Nikita Proskourine said this: > > :: Hi all, > > :: > > :: I am a newbie to FreeBSD development, so please bear with me. I am > > :: currently using FreeBSD-4.0 RELEASE. I did a fresh cvsup (using RELENG_4 > > :: tag, that would get me a stable branch, right?) and "make world" on Sunday > > :: and the build failed somewhere in objc contribs for gcc. > > :: > > :: I made logs of the build and will send them later today. In the meantime, I > > :: was wondering if this is a known problem and whether there are workarounds > > :: for this. > > :: > > :: Nikita. > > :: > > :: > > :: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > :: with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 16:32:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isris.pair.com (isris.pair.com [209.68.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDE337B423 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rooneg@localhost) by isris.pair.com (8.9.1/8.6.12) id TAA21624; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:32:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20000904193212.C6568@electricjellyfish.net> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:32:12 -0400 From: Garrett Rooney To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with make world (Sunday) Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <39B430E4.DA0D6B66@columbus.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <39B430E4.DA0D6B66@columbus.rr.com>; from Bill Moran on Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 07:31:48PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 07:31:48PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > 1. I cvsupped to current 4.1-STABLE from 4.0-STABLE(June 3) > 2. make buildworld > 3. Attempted to compile a kernel ... lots-o-errors > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf;/usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL > All manner of complaints of errors in the kernel config file > 4. Tried to do cd /usr/src;make buildkernel > error: no such target did you try 'make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL'? -- garrett rooney my pid is inigo montoya. rooneg@electricjellyfish.net you kill -9 my parent process. http://electricjellyfish.net/ prepare to vi. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 16:49:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDA037B43E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp26130024.columbus.rr.com [24.26.130.24]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20205; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:48:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39B43636.24775CBE@columbus.rr.com> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 19:54:30 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Rooney Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with make world (Sunday) References: <39B430E4.DA0D6B66@columbus.rr.com> <20000904193212.C6568@electricjellyfish.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Garrett Rooney wrote: > > 4. Tried to do cd /usr/src;make buildkernel > > error: no such target > > did you try 'make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL'? No, no ... it complainded that buildkernel was not a valid target- not that MYKERNEL was not a valid target. I tried both what show here and what you suggested. (I abbreviated some things in this email for simplicity) One way or the other - something is seriously hosed. I've now got a GENERIC file that looks like it belongs to 3.X (it has references to wd0, wd1) I'll post more once I've done the CVSdown to 4.0-STABLE. -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 17: 0:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278C837B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp26130024.columbus.rr.com [24.26.130.24]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21902 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 20:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39B438F8.D8871578@columbus.rr.com> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 20:06:16 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Rising to new levels of stupidity: was Re: problems with make world (Sunday) References: <39B430E4.DA0D6B66@columbus.rr.com> <20000904193212.C6568@electricjellyfish.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well ... in my case, all my problems were cause by lack of intelligence/care/whatever. It turns out that I had an old supfile, and when I checked through it I somehow missed the most obvious problem - that I was tagged for RELENG_3 instead of RELENG_4. So, if anyone was mystified as to why I was having so much trouble, quit wondering, it's my own stupidity. -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 17:33:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C6637B424 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08047; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 17:33:25 -0700 Message-ID: <39B43F55.EE554F13@urx.com> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 17:33:25 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Dynacom Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Rising to new levels of stupidity: was Re: problems with make world (Sunday) References: <39B430E4.DA0D6B66@columbus.rr.com> <20000904193212.C6568@electricjellyfish.net> <39B438F8.D8871578@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Moran wrote: > > Well ... in my case, all my problems were cause by lack of > intelligence/care/whatever. It was just Murphy giving you a humble moment. > > It turns out that I had an old supfile, and when I checked through it I > somehow missed the most obvious problem - that I was tagged for RELENG_3 > instead of RELENG_4. I thought that could be a problem when they introduced 4.x-stable-supfile. Did you build ok or did you just find the cvsup error? Kent > > So, if anyone was mystified as to why I was having so much trouble, quit > wondering, it's my own stupidity. > > -Bill > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 17:40: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F8137B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix, from userid 100) id EE370E881; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 20:39:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14772.16607.870040.12214@kci.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 20:39:59 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: Re: affordable wireless In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "SRM" == Sameer R Manek writes: SRM> My only affordable solution so far is to use the Apple AirPort SRM> base station, and wavelan pcmcia cards, but I don't know if they SRM> can co-exist, and the AirPort needs a Macintosh to configure. My SRM> idea of affordable for this is less then $500, the lucent wavelan SRM> solution works out to about $900 startup, The AirPort base station contians within it a "silver" wavelan PCMCIA card. The regular wavelan cards you buy work well with it. I happen to have a Mac around to configure it, but I understand that the Karlbridge software for Windoze will configure it as well (except for some features such as the modem dialout). I currently have linux on my laptop and it works well with the wavelan. I suspect the wavelan driver for FreeBSD works just as well. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 17:47:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A1037B42C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e850krZ55689; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:16:53 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:16:53 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Tancsa Cc: gsmith@colis.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Vinum (was: RAID) Message-ID: <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net>; from mike@sentex.net on Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:02:41PM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 4 September 2000 at 12:02:41 -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 10:31 AM 9/3/2000 -0500, cyber@colis.com wrote: >> I have vinum running on a free mail server in a Raid 5 configuration, It is a >> lot faster than low end hardware raid solutions. The machine has 2 cpus (Abit >> dual celeron motherboard) so Raid 5 calculation is not a problem. >> Hope this helps. > > Thanks! Have you had any drives go bad in production ? Was vinum able to > work around it no problem ? Vinum should handle (not "work around") failed drives. Replacing them can be a little baroque. See http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/replacing-drive.html for more details. > Any caveats ? None that I can think of. It's a good idea to read the documentation before you start. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 17:52:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1183E37B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e850qHV28689; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 20:52:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 20:47:02 -0400 To: Greg Lehey From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:16 AM 9/5/2000 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >Vinum should handle (not "work around") failed drives. Replacing them >can be a little baroque. See >http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/replacing-drive.html for more details. > > > Any caveats ? > >None that I can think of. It's a good idea to read the documentation >before you start. Thanks! I have a test system I will play with for a while before deploying. BTW, is vinum in theory and practice as stable on ata drives as on SCSI ? ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 17:55:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EC937B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e850tEK68071; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:25:14 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:25:14 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Tancsa Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Message-ID: <20000905102514.D49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net>; from mike@sentex.net on Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:47:02PM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 4 September 2000 at 20:47:02 -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 10:16 AM 9/5/2000 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> Vinum should handle (not "work around") failed drives. Replacing them >> can be a little baroque. See >> http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/replacing-drive.html for more details. >> >>> Any caveats ? >> >> None that I can think of. It's a good idea to read the documentation >> before you start. > > Thanks! I have a test system I will play with for a while before > deploying. Good idea. Let me know if you have any problems. > BTW, is vinum in theory and practice as stable on ata drives as on > SCSI ? Yes. Make sure you don't have more than one drive per controller, or performance will suffer. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 18: 0:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42D637B423 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8510PV28708; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:00:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000904205235.0337b050@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 20:55:10 -0400 To: Greg Lehey From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000905102514.D49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:25 AM 9/5/2000 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > BTW, is vinum in theory and practice as stable on ata drives as on > > SCSI ? > >Yes. Make sure you don't have more than one drive per controller, or >performance will suffer. I ordered 2 surplus ATA66 controllers for $35CDN on Friday. To start with 3 drives in RAID 5 I guess... Hmmm, actually if one drive in theory is slower (ata 33) will that cause me problems ? ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 18:44:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00CD37B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e851iJv44537; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:14:19 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:14:19 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Tancsa Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Message-ID: <20000905111419.H49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <20000905102514.D49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904205235.0337b050@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000904205235.0337b050@mail.sentex.net>; from mike@sentex.net on Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:55:10PM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 4 September 2000 at 20:55:10 -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 10:25 AM 9/5/2000 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >>> BTW, is vinum in theory and practice as stable on ata drives as on >>> SCSI ? >> >> Yes. Make sure you don't have more than one drive per controller, or >> performance will suffer. > > I ordered 2 surplus ATA66 controllers for $35CDN on Friday. To start with > 3 drives in RAID 5 I guess... Hmmm, actually if one drive in theory is > slower (ata 33) will that cause me problems ? Well, it will limit performance, but that's all. You'll still get marginally better performance from an ATA 33 and an ATA 66 than you would from two ATA 33s. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 18:48:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lynx.aba.net.au (lynx.esec.com.au [203.21.84.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4F5A37B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20061 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2000 01:48:51 -0000 Received: from swun.esec.com.au (HELO eSec.com.au) (203.21.85.207) by lynx.esec.com.au with SMTP; 5 Sep 2000 01:48:51 -0000 Message-ID: <39B452D0.4F05A73F@eSec.com.au> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 12:56:32 +1100 From: Sam Wun Organization: eSec X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ftp from client freeze my FreeBSD server box. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------A9306665120F05F0AB33000A" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------A9306665120F05F0AB33000A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was trying to ftp from a client machine in to my FreeBSD box, it hangs the FreeBSD box very badly. Ctl-Alt-Del won't work, I can't type most of the keys on the keyboard except for the Alt-Fx for switching to the other login shell, but won't be able to type a character either. Press reset button is the only way out. The whole box is freeze after all. Does anyone know where I can find a patch for fixing this problem? Thanks Sam. --------------A9306665120F05F0AB33000A Content-Type: text/html; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 
I was trying to ftp from a client machine in to my FreeBSD box, it hangs
the FreeBSD box very badly.
Ctl-Alt-Del won't work, I can't type most of the keys on the keyboard
except for the Alt-Fx for switching
to the other login shell, but won't be able to type a character either.
Press reset button is the only way out.
The whole box is freeze after all.

Does anyone know where I can find a patch for fixing this problem?

Thanks
Sam.
  --------------A9306665120F05F0AB33000A-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 18:53:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fpsn.net (mail.fpsn.net [63.224.69.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9F137B422 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sharky (adsl-151-202-97-95.bellatlantic.net [151.202.97.95]) by mail.fpsn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA71028; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:53:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Message-Id: <200009050153.TAA71028@mail.fpsn.net> From: "Simon" To: "Sam Wun" , "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 21:56:26 -0400 Reply-To: "Simon" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195) In-Reply-To: <39B452D0.4F05A73F@eSec.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4963552=_=_=_" Subject: Re: ftp from client freeze my FreeBSD server box. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4963552=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds like unstable FreeBSD box. Have you tried stress testing this machine? If ftpd can make it hang so can other programs. -Simon --Original Message Text--- From: Sam Wun Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 12:56:32 +1100 I was trying to ftp from a client machine in to my FreeBSD box, it hangs the FreeBSD box very badly. Ctl-Alt-Del won't work, I can't type most of the keys on the keyboard except for the Alt-Fx for switching to the other login shell, but won't be able to type a character either. Press reset button is the only way out. The whole box is freeze after all. Does anyone know where I can find a patch for fixing this problem? Thanks Sam. --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4963552=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds like unstable FreeBSD box. Have you tried stress testing this machine? If ftpd can make it hang so can other programs.

-Simon

--Original Message Text---
From: Sam Wun
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 12:56:32 +1100


I was trying to ftp from a client machine in to my FreeBSD box, it hangs
the FreeBSD box very badly.
Ctl-Alt-Del won't work, I can't type most of the keys on the keyboard
except for the Alt-Fx for switching
to the other login shell, but won't be able to type a character either.
Press reset button is the only way out.
The whole box is freeze after all.

Does anyone know where I can find a patch for fixing this problem?

Thanks
Sam.

--_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4963552=_=_=_-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 18:56:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2904C37B43E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08294; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 18:56:15 -0700 Message-ID: <39B452BF.2B952FBD@urx.com> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 18:56:15 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Dynacom Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sam Wun Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp from client freeze my FreeBSD server box. References: <39B452D0.4F05A73F@eSec.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sam Wun wrote: > > I was trying to ftp from a client machine in to my FreeBSD box, it hangs > the FreeBSD box very badly. > Ctl-Alt-Del won't work, I can't type most of the keys on the keyboard > except for the Alt-Fx for switching > to the other login shell, but won't be able to type a character either. > Press reset button is the only way out. > The whole box is freeze after all. > > Does anyone know where I can find a patch for fixing this problem? There was a change added to the uipc_socket2.c in 4.1-stable that would hang the machine on ip activity. The easy way is to recvsup and build the system. There are too many changes to just cvsup and remake the kernel. Kent > > Thanks > Sam. > > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 19: 7:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gem.lightlink.com (gem.lightlink.com [205.232.34.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5025A37B43E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cornell.edu (isdn1-5.lightlink.com [205.232.34.70]) by gem.lightlink.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28272 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:07:02 -0400 Message-ID: <39B41CF0.7C171563@cornell.edu> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 22:06:40 +0000 From: Nikita Proskourine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: close to solving problems with "make buildworld" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok guys, Here is the relevant snippet, the end of the log I made: ===> cc1obj sed -e "/^ifc$/,/^end ifc$/d" -e "/^ifobjc$/d" -e "/^end ifobjc$/d" /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/c-parse.in > objc-parse.y yacc -d -o objc-parse.c objc-parse.y yacc: 72 shift/reduce conflicts ln -sf objc-parse.h c-parse.h mv objc-parse.y objc-parse.y.out rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc -I. -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include objc-parse.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/c-decl.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/c-lex.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:1: unterminated character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:2606: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:2786: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:2908: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:2931: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:2989: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3003: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3004: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3018: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3128: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3138: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3181: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3208: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3219: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3235: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3241: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3245: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3268: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3294: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3314: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3334: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3335: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3349: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3361: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3369: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3461: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3539: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3558: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3679: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3734: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3739: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3740: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3744: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3752: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3755: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3791: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3794: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3822: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3832: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3837: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3868: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3869: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3885: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3887: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3889: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3891: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3893: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3903: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3916: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3920: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3928: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3931: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3943: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3946: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3953: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3968: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:3998: unterminated string or character constant /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.c:2593: unterminated `#if' conditional mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I should have done this right away, but only now I looked at objc-act.c file. Guess what... it got corrupted somehow, the beginning contains garbage characters (and file is huge). I'll delete it and cvsup and try again. Will let you know what happened. Nikita. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 19:19:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front001.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C268137B42C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.217.6.97] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front001.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with ESMTP id 18025786; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 22:19:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.uhring.com [127.0.0.1]) by dave.uhring.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00354; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:19:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:19:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Uhring X-Sender: duhring@dave.uhring.com To: Kent Stewart Cc: Sam Wun , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp from client freeze my FreeBSD server box. In-Reply-To: <39B452BF.2B952FBD@urx.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the same thing happen with a system which was cvsupped from a fresh 4.1-R source install on 29 Aug 00, late afternoon US/CDT. I had to re-install 4.1-R to get a STABLE system. Dave On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Sam Wun wrote: > > > > I was trying to ftp from a client machine in to my FreeBSD box, it hangs > > the FreeBSD box very badly. > > Ctl-Alt-Del won't work, I can't type most of the keys on the keyboard > > except for the Alt-Fx for switching > > to the other login shell, but won't be able to type a character either. > > Press reset button is the only way out. > > The whole box is freeze after all. > > > > Does anyone know where I can find a patch for fixing this problem? > > There was a change added to the uipc_socket2.c in 4.1-stable that > would hang the machine on ip activity. The easy way is to recvsup and > build the system. There are too many changes to just cvsup and remake > the kernel. > > Kent > > > > > Thanks > > Sam. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 19:21:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front002.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094DD37B424 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.217.6.97] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front002.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with ESMTP id 17954303; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 22:20:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.uhring.com [127.0.0.1]) by dave.uhring.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00361; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:21:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:21:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Uhring X-Sender: duhring@dave.uhring.com To: Simon Cc: Sam Wun , "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: ftp from client freeze my FreeBSD server box. In-Reply-To: <200009050153.TAA71028@mail.fpsn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Perhaps you can tell us of a better stress test on a system than make buildworld. The source was fscked on 29 Aug 00 and my system had the same problem. Dave On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Simon wrote: > Sounds like unstable FreeBSD box. Have you tried stress testing this machine? If ftpd can make it hang so can other > programs. > > -Simon > > --Original Message Text--- > From: Sam Wun > Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 12:56:32 +1100 > > > I was trying to ftp from a client machine in to my FreeBSD box, it hangs > the FreeBSD box very badly. > Ctl-Alt-Del won't work, I can't type most of the keys on the keyboard > except for the Alt-Fx for switching > to the other login shell, but won't be able to type a character either. > Press reset button is the only way out. > The whole box is freeze after all. > > Does anyone know where I can find a patch for fixing this problem? > > Thanks > Sam. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 19:40:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fpsn.net (mail.fpsn.net [63.224.69.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4D837B43E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sharky (adsl-151-202-97-95.bellatlantic.net [151.202.97.95]) by mail.fpsn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA71260; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 20:40:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Message-Id: <200009050240.UAA71260@mail.fpsn.net> From: "Simon" To: "Dave Uhring" Cc: "Sam Wun" , "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 22:43:15 -0400 Reply-To: "Simon" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ftp from client freeze my FreeBSD server box. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had old HD firmware which would cause panics under certain cirumstances and yet buildworld wouldn't fail. I stress test using iozone (from ports),memtest (from ports),ab (from apache), and sql-benchmark set from MySQL. I leave it all running for about 3-5 days. I think it's a much brutal bashing than buildworld. -Simon On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:21:40 -0500 (CDT), Dave Uhring wrote: >Perhaps you can tell us of a better stress test on a system than make >buildworld. The source was fscked on 29 Aug 00 and my system had the same >problem. > >Dave > > >On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Simon wrote: > >> Sounds like unstable FreeBSD box. Have you tried stress testing this machine? If ftpd can make it hang so can other >> programs. >> >> -Simon >> >> --Original Message Text--- >> From: Sam Wun >> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 12:56:32 +1100 >> >> >> I was trying to ftp from a client machine in to my FreeBSD box, it hangs >> the FreeBSD box very badly. >> Ctl-Alt-Del won't work, I can't type most of the keys on the keyboard >> except for the Alt-Fx for switching >> to the other login shell, but won't be able to type a character either. >> Press reset button is the only way out. >> The whole box is freeze after all. >> >> Does anyone know where I can find a patch for fixing this problem? >> >> Thanks >> Sam. >> >> >> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 19:44:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8E637B43E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08409; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 19:44:13 -0700 Message-ID: <39B45DFD.C999BB1A@urx.com> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 19:44:13 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Dynacom Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Uhring Cc: Sam Wun , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp from client freeze my FreeBSD server box. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dave Uhring wrote: > > I had the same thing happen with a system which was cvsupped from a fresh > 4.1-R source install on 29 Aug 00, late afternoon US/CDT. I had to > re-install 4.1-R to get a STABLE system. It took me a minute to find it. The module /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket2.c was updated and fixed on 31 August. This got rid of the ip activity hang. Kent > > Dave > > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > > > Sam Wun wrote: > > > > > > I was trying to ftp from a client machine in to my FreeBSD box, it hangs > > > the FreeBSD box very badly. > > > Ctl-Alt-Del won't work, I can't type most of the keys on the keyboard > > > except for the Alt-Fx for switching > > > to the other login shell, but won't be able to type a character either. > > > Press reset button is the only way out. > > > The whole box is freeze after all. > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can find a patch for fixing this problem? > > > > There was a change added to the uipc_socket2.c in 4.1-stable that > > would hang the machine on ip activity. The easy way is to recvsup and > > build the system. There are too many changes to just cvsup and remake > > the kernel. > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > Sam. > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 20:23:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lynx.aba.net.au (lynx.esec.com.au [203.21.84.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8113237B42C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 20:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26333 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2000 03:23:15 -0000 Received: from swun.esec.com.au (HELO eSec.com.au) (203.21.85.207) by lynx.esec.com.au with SMTP; 5 Sep 2000 03:23:15 -0000 Message-ID: <39B468F0.A502805F@eSec.com.au> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 14:30:56 +1100 From: Sam Wun Organization: eSec X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp from client freeze my FreeBSD server box. References: <39B45DFD.C999BB1A@urx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for all the reply. I will re-cvsup the 4.x-stable supfile tonight. Thanks Sam. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 20:27:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4954E37B423 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 20:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA08526; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 20:27:31 -0700 Message-ID: <39B46824.9DCC80ED@urx.com> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 20:27:32 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Dynacom Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sam Wun Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp from client freeze my FreeBSD server box. References: <39B45DFD.C999BB1A@urx.com> <39B468F0.A502805F@eSec.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sam Wun wrote: > > Thanks for all the reply. I will re-cvsup the 4.x-stable supfile tonight. You could visit http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket2.c?r1=1.55.2.6 and get the diff to 1.55.2.5 that made 2.6. This will show the code that fixed uipc_socket2.c and then, all you would have to do is make a new kernel. Kent > > Thanks > Sam. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 21:11:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from camelot.bitart.com (BITart-45.BITart.com [206.103.221.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1703237B43F for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26417 invoked by uid 101); 4 Sep 2000 03:11:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20000904031125.26416.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Gerd Knops Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 22:11:25 -0500 To: "Sameer R. Manek" Subject: Re: affordable wireless Cc: Reply-To: gerti-freebsd-s@BITart.com References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sameer R. Manek wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to have 802.11 wireless for > home users? Naturally it should be supported by FreeBSD. > Configuruation can be done on any pc os though. > > My only affordable solution so far is to use the Apple AirPort base > station, and wavelan pcmcia cards, but I don't know if they can > co-exist, and the AirPort needs a Macintosh to configure. My idea of > affordable for this is less then $500, the lucent wavelan solution > works out to about $900 startup, that's a little out of my budget. > Have not tried it myself, but several EMails in th past indicate you do not need an AirPort. Just use a PCI/PCMCIA adapter with a wavelan card in your server (supposed to work with FreeBSD) and a wavelan in the laptop. Search the archives. Gerd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 21:29: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zaphon.llamas.net (zaphon.llamas.net [207.203.36.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF1C037B42C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6166 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Sep 2000 04:28:59 -0000 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:28:59 -0700 From: Greg Rumple To: gerti-freebsd-s@BITart.com Cc: "Sameer R. Manek" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: affordable wireless Message-ID: <20000904212859.H2956@zaphon.llamas.net> References: <20000904031125.26416.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000904031125.26416.qmail@camelot.bitart.com>; from gerti@bitart.com on Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:11:25PM -0500 X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Gerd Knops (gerti@bitart.com) [000905 04:12]: > Sameer R. Manek wrote: > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to have 802.11 wireless for > > home users? Naturally it should be supported by FreeBSD. > > Configuruation can be done on any pc os though. > > > > My only affordable solution so far is to use the Apple AirPort base > > station, and wavelan pcmcia cards, but I don't know if they can > > co-exist, and the AirPort needs a Macintosh to configure. My idea of > > affordable for this is less then $500, the lucent wavelan solution > > works out to about $900 startup, that's a little out of my budget. > > > Have not tried it myself, but several EMails in th past indicate you > do not need an AirPort. This is fine as long as you only wanna use one card, this is what they refer to as running in AD-HOC mode. Cost wise, there is very little difference between this and buying a apple airport base station (which I am typing this e-mail through right now from my laptop running FreeBSD 4.1). Since a card will run you 160-190 and a ISA pcmcia bridge will cost you 60-90 dollars, and a PCI pcmcia bridge is even more. The airport is only 299 dollars. > Just use a PCI/PCMCIA adapter with a wavelan card in your server > (supposed to work with FreeBSD) and a wavelan in the laptop. -- Greg Rumple grumple@zaphon.llamas.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 4 23:20:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vbook.express.ru (vbook.express.ru [212.24.37.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE4737B422; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 23:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from vova@localhost) by vbook.express.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA06839; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:37:30 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from vova) From: "Vladimir B. Grebenschikov" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14772.34457.593951.569974@vbook.express.ru> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:37:29 +0400 (MSD) To: Devin Butterfield Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops In-Reply-To: <39B19161.F6939E33@db.wireless.net> References: <019c01c014fe$4279c860$8a42163f@KenMays> <39B19161.F6939E33@db.wireless.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Devin Butterfield writes: Hi Devin > > Has anyone sat down and tested loading FreeBSD v4.1 > > on IBM Thinkpads and other laptops?? I was looking into > > installing it on some of my older laptops and wondered what are the trails > > and errors in doing this. > > > > I have 4.1-STABLE running fine on Sony Z505SX. X works fine at > 1024x768, and sound works with only a small hack. What hack you mean ? I have exactly same VAIO and sound for me works without any hacks, may be I am missing anything ? So I've done 'make world' for 4.1-STABLE a couple of days ago. But on 4.1-R all works fine too. > APM also works great. I have one small problem with APM, sometimes (not always) when resuming after sleep something not good with system timers - ascpu don't show any load, systat in vmstat mode says 'The alternate system clock has died!' After awaken from hybirnation all works fine. > Regards, Devin. -- TSB Russian Express, Moscow Vladimir B. Grebenschikov, vova@express.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 0:21: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from areca.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-4.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F7637B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 00:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from villosa.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.122) by areca.wanadoo.fr; 5 Sep 2000 09:10:40 +0200 Received: from hautmedoc.dockes.com (164.138.228.194) by villosa.wanadoo.fr; 5 Sep 2000 09:10:29 +0200 Received: (from dockes@localhost) by hautmedoc.dockes.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA60426; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:20:33 +0200 (MEST) From: Jean-Francois Dockes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14772.40625.548392.199486@hautmedoc.dockes.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:20:17 +0200 (MEST) To: Gary Kline Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with make world (Sunday) In-Reply-To: <20000904161814.A58272@tao.thought.org> References: <20000904161814.A58272@tao.thought.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary Kline writes: > For the record, I just cvsup'ed this morning Monday, 04sep00) and > buildworld hangs here: > > ===> objdump > ... > cc -O -pipe -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../libbfd/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../libbinutils -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/binutils -DBFD_VERSION=\"2.10.0\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -o objdump objdump.o prdbg.o ../libbinutils/libbinutils.a ../libopcodes/libopcodes.a ../libbfd/libbfd.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a > ../libiberty/libiberty.a(choose-temp.o): In function `make_temp_file': > choose-temp.o(.text+0x264): undefined reference to `mkstemps' > *** Error code 1 I don't know if this applies to your case, but I had this error while trying a direct upgrade from 3.2-release to 4-stable. It appears that mkstemps() came in later than 3.2. I guess that a cvsup/buildworld to 3-stable would be the correct way to solve this issue, but I just ar'd the appropriate 4.x libc file into libiberty (cough, cough), in case it would save me one more cvsup and it did do it... I then remade world under 4-stable to clean things up. -- Jean-Francois Dockes jean-francois.dockes@wanadoo.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 0:43: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wedgev.com (cm57-70.liwest.at [212.33.57.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DC237B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 00:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wedge by smtp.wedgev.com with local (Exim 3.13 #1 (FreeBSD)) id 13WDNk-00006h-00 for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2000 09:43:00 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:43:00 +0200 From: Bernhard Valenti To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1 STABLE broken since today! Message-ID: <20000905094300.B344@cipher.home.at> Reply-To: Bernhard Valenti References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de on Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 10:52:34PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG just wanted to ask when do you issue a HEADS UP ? this really broke stable and there hasnt been a HEADS UP. i'm subscribed to stable but i think it has to much traffic so i thought about only getting the mails with HEADS UP in the subject... but now figuring i would have missed this mails i doubt that this was a good idea. regards, bernhard valenti To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 1:19:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lynx.aba.net.au (lynx.esec.com.au [203.21.84.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DA1237B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 01:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2328 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2000 08:19:37 -0000 Received: from melb-dialin08.esec.com.au (HELO yahoo.com) (203.25.253.72) by lynx.esec.com.au with SMTP; 5 Sep 2000 08:19:37 -0000 Message-ID: <39B4AD55.53A99609@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 19:22:45 +1100 From: Q Organization: eSec Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernhard Valenti Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1 STABLE broken since today! References: <20000905094300.B344@cipher.home.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG what actually broken up? Bernhard Valenti wrote: > just wanted to ask when do you issue a HEADS UP ? > this really broke stable and there hasnt been a HEADS UP. > i'm subscribed to stable but i think it has to much traffic so i thought about only getting the mails with HEADS UP in the subject... but now figuring i would have missed this mails i doubt that this was a good idea. > > regards, > bernhard valenti > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 2: 0:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from barmetta.skmdc.net (barmetta.skmdc.net [209.21.47.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5331A37B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 02:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by barmetta.skmdc.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e84HVTw97138; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:31:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bryan) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:31:29 -0700 From: "bryan d. o'connor" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: affordable wireless Message-ID: <20000904103129.X1276@barmetta.com> References: <200009040455.VAA93396@pau-amma.whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200009040455.VAA93396@pau-amma.whistle.com>; from dhw@whistle.com on Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 09:55:57PM -0700 X-X: super karate monkey death car Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | Weaknesses so far are configuring the Airport (it was configured for me, | by someone who has access to the requisite software) and the lack (from | what I hear) of 129-bit encryption support. for 128-bit support, someone has upgraded the card inside their airport to the lucent gold model. check out: http://www.msrl.com/airport-gold/ ...bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 2: 8:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D7C37B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 02:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09274; Tue, 05 Sep 2000 02:08:03 -0700 Message-ID: <39B4B7F4.8D2C20AE@urx.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 02:08:04 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Dynacom Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Q Cc: Bernhard Valenti , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 STABLE broken since today! References: <20000905094300.B344@cipher.home.at> <39B4AD55.53A99609@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I rebuilt my userland and kernel 6 hours ago and nothing was broken then. This message thread goes back to 30 August. Kent Kent Q wrote: > > what actually broken up? > > Bernhard Valenti wrote: > > > just wanted to ask when do you issue a HEADS UP ? > > this really broke stable and there hasnt been a HEADS UP. > > i'm subscribed to stable but i think it has to much traffic so i thought about only getting the mails with HEADS UP in the subject... but now figuring i would have missed this mails i doubt that this was a good idea. > > > > regards, > > bernhard valenti > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 2:49:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960AE37B423 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 02:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295712CE6F; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:44:07 +0200 (EET) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 205374CFB; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:51:26 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:51:26 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Greg Lehey , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Message-ID: <20000905115126.A14470@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net>; from mike@sentex.net on Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:47:02PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:47:02PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > Thanks! I have a test system I will play with for a while before > deploying. BTW, is vinum in theory and practice as stable on ata drives as > on SCSI ? I spent a week lately trying out vinum with five ATA disks. The mobo had ATA-100 capability, so two drives did run at ATA-100, the other ones at ATA-66 (two Promise controllers). I pushed the RAID-5 quite hard with continous parallel buildworld, two-days running postmark and bonnie++, all at the same time. Had no problems, it seems really solid now. The disks were IBM DTLA type, 15G. -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 3: 2:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neo.skynet.be (neo.skynet.be [195.238.2.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D2E37B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 03:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by neo.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FE26E9B; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:01:57 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <14772.16607.870040.12214@kci.kciLink.com> References: <14772.16607.870040.12214@kci.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:45:40 +0200 To: Vivek Khera , From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: affordable wireless Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 8:39 PM -0400 2000/9/4, Vivek Khera wrote: > The AirPort base station contians within it a "silver" wavelan PCMCIA > card. The regular wavelan cards you buy work well with it. I'm using this solution myself. In fact, I replaced the WaveLAN card in the AirPort with a WaveLAN Gold (so that I can do 128-bit encryption), and kept the WaveLAN Silver as backup. > I happen to have a Mac around to configure it, but I understand that > the Karlbridge software for Windoze will configure it as well (except > for some features such as the modem dialout). I downloaded the Karlbridge software and installed it on my wife's PC laptop, and tried to use it to configure the AirPort. I could not get this to work properly, so for the moment we're actually running without encryption (the Karlbridge software is supposedly able to allow you to change how the password is stored, because Apple uses a hash of the password on the AirPort and in the Mac client, but everyone else in the world uses the raw password itself). I do have some problems with the AirPort getting wonky and the Mac software at the same time. Usually rebooting the AirPort does the trick, but sometimes I have to reboot them both. I'm hoping that when I switch to using the AirPort as a wireless bridge to my Ethernet/ISDN router, I won't have these kinds of problems any more. Other than that, everything else works like a charm. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 5: 9: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [208.42.49.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A00A37B424; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 05:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hamlet.nectar.com (hamlet.nectar.com [10.0.1.102]) by gw.nectar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273D61925A; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 07:08:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nectar@localhost) by hamlet.nectar.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA74979; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 07:08:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nectar@spawn.nectar.com) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 07:08:56 -0500 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: "Vladimir B. Grebenschikov" Cc: Devin Butterfield , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Sony Z505SX and suspend (was Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops) Message-ID: <20000905070856.B74933@hamlet.nectar.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" , "Vladimir B. Grebenschikov" , Devin Butterfield , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <019c01c014fe$4279c860$8a42163f@KenMays> <39B19161.F6939E33@db.wireless.net> <14772.34457.593951.569974@vbook.express.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <14772.34457.593951.569974@vbook.express.ru>; from vova@express.ru on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:37:29AM +0400 X-Url: http://www.nectar.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:37:29AM +0400, Vladimir B. Grebenschikov wrote: > > APM also works great. Oh, this reminds me of an odd problem I encounter only sometimes when using `shutdown -p'. The operating system halts and the VAIO shuts down /almost/. One of the little LEDs stays on and the fan is still going. I have to unplug power & battery to actually power off. The next time I boot, fsck finds the file systems clean, which is good and indicates to me that we get through the operating system shutdown. It doesn't always happen. -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / jvidrine@verio.net / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 5:31:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from process.dhs.org (u56n134.hfx.eastlink.ca [24.222.56.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B201737B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 05:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dest@localhost) by process.dhs.org (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e85CYCg93558 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:34:12 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from dest) From: Dest Reply-To: dest@syd.eastlink.ca To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:34:09 -0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.90] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00090509340900.93557@process.dhs.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 5:52:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rhea.worldonline.nl (rhea.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2554E37B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 05:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intramail.worldonline.nl. (intramail.worldonline.nl [194.151.129.159]) by rhea.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7319A36B18 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:52:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from maikel@localhost) by intramail.worldonline.nl. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id OAA73105 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:50:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from maikel) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:50:35 +0200 From: Maikel Verheijen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ESS Maestro 2E Message-ID: <20000905145035.M69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1hVIwB4NpNcOOTEe" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --1hVIwB4NpNcOOTEe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all! Is the ESS Maestro 2E audio controller supported by FreeBSD 4.1? I have one in my laptop, but it seems unsupported. TIA, Maikel Verheijen --1hVIwB4NpNcOOTEe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: f/3F2K+GgeSAfO7FgbA6gOQWIWyefyjX iQA/AwUBObTsGqmWNQ7RrPkAEQIcPQCfSb0/poXtFy4pawwIMrZ7Pij6IhQAn0fd eB4IuPGpBGMJjV8TAehZ2mwa =BCB8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1hVIwB4NpNcOOTEe-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 6: 8: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B4437B43F for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 06:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e85D7oE25460; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000905090105.053a13f0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 09:02:44 -0400 To: vallo@matti.ee From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Cc: Greg Lehey , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000905115126.A14470@myhakas.matti.ee> References: <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:51 AM 9/5/00 +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote: >I spent a week lately trying out vinum with five ATA disks. The mobo had >ATA-100 capability, so two drives did run at ATA-100, the other ones at >ATA-66 (two Promise controllers). I pushed the RAID-5 quite hard with >continous parallel buildworld, two-days running postmark and bonnie++, >all at the same time. Had no problems, it seems really solid now. The >disks were IBM DTLA type, 15G. Thanks! Thats comforting to hear. I have been somewhat disappointed with entry and medium level hardware RAID products in terms of price/performance. Given the price penalty of SCSI today, the promise of vinum is looking more and more attractive. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 6:15:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtpproxy1.mitre.org (mb-20-100.mitre.org [129.83.20.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634C137B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 06:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy1.mitre.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10513 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailsrv2.mitre.org (mailsrv2.mitre.org [129.83.221.17]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07166 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:12:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mitre.org ([128.29.145.140]) by mailsrv2.mitre.org (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with ESMTP id G0F0TO00.UD2; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:15:24 -0400 Message-ID: <39B4F1EE.D75B397D@mitre.org> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 09:15:26 -0400 From: "Andresen,Jason R." Organization: The MITRE Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-20000509M (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: Andrey Lakhno , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: recent ports on 2.2.8-R References: <200009030056.RAA08612@freeway.dcfinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Chad R. Larson" wrote: > Finally, you could CVSup "ports-all" with a date that matches the > release of 2.2.8. In other words, not the current tree, but as it > existed then. You'll need "tag=." and "date=1998.12.31.00.00.00" (or > something close to that) in your cvsupfile. That will get you a set of > ports that will almost certainly build. But you'll miss newly added > ports and bug fixes. Plus many of the ports will not compile simply because they point to older versions of the source code that the authors did not keep on their ftp site. You're almost certainly better off keeping your ports tree current and handbuilding anything that doesn't work with the port. -- _ _ _ ___ ____ ___ ______________________________________ / \/ \ | ||_ _|| _ \|___| | Jason Andresen -- jandrese@mitre.org / /\/\ \ | | | | | |/ /|_|_ | Views expressed may not reflect those /_/ \_\|_| |_| |_|\_\|___| | of the Mitre Corporation. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 6:19:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cosa.uk-legal.net (cosa.uk-legal.net [212.240.216.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBE537B423 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 06:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by cosa.uk-legal.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E648F11289; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:19:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cosa.uk-legal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DAC1A for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:19:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:19:25 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Tulloch To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ATA-100 Support Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've noticed some mentions of ATA-100 support, does nayone know if the promise ATA-100 controller onboard the Asus A7V mobo is supported in -stable? Thanks Andrew Andrew Tulloch - Systems Administrator - Legalex Ltd andrew@cosa.uk-legal.net FreeBSD: The Power To Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 7:13:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isris.pair.com (isris.pair.com [209.68.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04A037B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 07:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rooneg@localhost) by isris.pair.com (8.9.1/8.6.12) id KAA25756; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:13:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20000905101302.C27189@electricjellyfish.net> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:13:02 -0400 From: Garrett Rooney To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS Maestro 2E Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000905145035.M69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <20000905145035.M69666@intramail.worldonline.nl>; from Maikel Verheijen on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 02:50:35PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 02:50:35PM +0200, Maikel Verheijen wrote: > Hi all! > > Is the ESS Maestro 2E audio controller supported by FreeBSD 4.1? > > I have one in my laptop, but it seems unsupported. sort of. there's a driver out there, that some people have had success with, but i don't believe it's been committed yet. check the archives of freebsd-mobile for more details. -- garrett rooney my pid is inigo montoya. rooneg@electricjellyfish.net you kill -9 my parent process. http://electricjellyfish.net/ prepare to vi. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 7:16:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B4537B42C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 07:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e85EGDE46181; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:16:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000905100949.038ccf00@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 10:11:07 -0400 To: Andrew Tulloch , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: ATA-100 Support In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:19 PM 9/5/00 +0100, Andrew Tulloch wrote: >I've noticed some mentions of ATA-100 support, does nayone know if the >promise ATA-100 controller onboard the Asus A7V mobo is supported in >-stable? Looking at the sources, it seems to be there. newmail% grep -i promise * ata-all.c: return "Promise ATA33 controller"; ata-all.c: return "Promise ATA66 controller"; ata-all.c: return "Promise ATA100 controller"; ata-all.c: /* Promise and HighPoint controllers support busmastering DMA */ ata-all.c: case 0x4d38105a: /* Promise 66's need their clock changed */ ata-all.c: case 0x4d30105a: /* Promise 100's too */ ata-all.c: case 0x4d33105a: /* Promise's need burst mode to be turned on */ ata-all.c: case 0x4d33105a: /* Promise 33's */ ata-all.c: case 0x4d38105a: /* Promise 66's */ ata-all.c: case 0x4d30105a: /* Promise 100's */ ---Mike >Thanks >Andrew > >Andrew Tulloch - Systems Administrator - Legalex Ltd > andrew@cosa.uk-legal.net > FreeBSD: The Power To Serve... > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 7:23:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pandora.worldonline.nl (pandora.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385D637B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 07:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intramail.worldonline.nl. (intramail.worldonline.nl [194.151.129.159]) by pandora.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1374C36B01; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:24:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from maikel@localhost) by intramail.worldonline.nl. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id QAA73781; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:21:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from maikel) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:21:58 +0200 From: Maikel Verheijen To: Garrett Rooney Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS Maestro 2E Message-ID: <20000905162158.T69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> References: <20000905145035.M69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> <20000905101302.C27189@electricjellyfish.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OowMmFE4aK71mEhh" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000905101302.C27189@electricjellyfish.net>; from rooneg@electricjellyfish.net on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:13:02AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --OowMmFE4aK71mEhh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:13:02AM -0400, Garrett Rooney wrote: > sort of. there's a driver out there, that some people have had success > with, but i don't believe it's been committed yet. check the archives > of freebsd-mobile for more details. Sean O'Connell sent me a link (Which he CC'd to the list :), from which I could build a working kernel module.=20 I Used the 20000731.tar.gz file, because the 20000817.tar.gz wouldn't compile. I'll try to get that thing working, but I won't put to much effort in that, because someone already is developing this thing :) Thanks for all the reactions :) > garrett rooney my pid is inigo montoya. > rooneg@electricjellyfish.net you kill -9 my parent process. > http://electricjellyfish.net/ prepare to vi. Kind regards, Maikel Verheijen. --OowMmFE4aK71mEhh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: GwXuUDJOgg4aMxNnRF4ZMgR4Gm2q68Cv iQA/AwUBObUBhamWNQ7RrPkAEQKvPQCgp11YPtJcDxFlk47yahszYcq4808AoJut mjjk1apupcVbFufzmrjBExbq =dIvA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OowMmFE4aK71mEhh-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 7:34:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9DF37B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 07:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9704E881; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:34:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e85EYkD33062; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:34:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14773.1158.657375.297666@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:34:46 -0400 (EDT) To: Brad Knowles Cc: Subject: Re: affordable wireless In-Reply-To: References: <14772.16607.870040.12214@kci.kciLink.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 11) "Carlsbad Caverns" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "BK" == Brad Knowles writes: BK> able to allow you to change how the password is stored, because Apple BK> uses a hash of the password on the AirPort and in the Mac client, but BK> everyone else in the world uses the raw password itself). I discovered this too. Most annoying, as I can't do encryption between my airport and my laptop, nor can I set a password to restrict others from accessing it. Luckily I live in the middle of nowhere and nobody else could use it unless they were sitting on my property ;-) BK> when I switch to using the AirPort as a wireless bridge to my BK> Ethernet/ISDN router, I won't have these kinds of problems any more. I use it as a bridge to my wired ISDN router, and let the Airport do the DHCP for all clients as well. Works like a charm and has never needed to be rebooted since March when I got it. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 7:46: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pandora.worldonline.nl (pandora.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5B937B423 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 07:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intramail.worldonline.nl. (intramail.worldonline.nl [194.151.129.159]) by pandora.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF50736C12 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:47:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from maikel@localhost) by intramail.worldonline.nl. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id QAA74078 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:44:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from maikel) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:44:14 +0200 From: Maikel Verheijen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ESS Maestro 2E Message-ID: <20000905164414.Y69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> References: <20000905145035.M69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> <20000905101302.C27189@electricjellyfish.net> <20000905162158.T69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gu8wNMO+QVC0jLZM" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000905162158.T69666@intramail.worldonline.nl>; from maikel@worldonline.nl on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:21:58PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --gu8wNMO+QVC0jLZM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:21:58PM +0200, Maikel Verheijen wrote: > Sean O'Connell sent me a link (Which he CC'd to the list :), from which I > could build a working kernel module.=20 Kinda lame to reply on your own mail, however I am mistaken about Sean mailing to the list. The link he sent me was: http://access.cent.saitama-u.ac.jp/~taku/freebsd/maestro/ from where I found the files I mentioned. Maikel Verheijen. --gu8wNMO+QVC0jLZM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: 1L4syNkBge3kN1mj20A/at3wnqa61oW9 iQA/AwUBObUGvamWNQ7RrPkAEQJd5ACgo3/Uuzyfr8Ymc9OJphKd+icTIhEAnR/d oMQ/79v9rkLYD3aALtdxDGjq =zW/D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gu8wNMO+QVC0jLZM-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 8:26:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from envy.vuurwerk.nl (envy.vuurwerk.nl [194.178.232.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F89237B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22797 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2000 15:26:30 -0000 Received: from kesteren.vuurwerk.nl (HELO daemon.vuurwerk.nl) (194.178.232.59) by envy.vuurwerk.nl with SMTP; 5 Sep 2000 15:26:30 -0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 61463 invoked by uid 11109); Tue, 05 Sep 2000 15:26:30 -0000 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:26:30 +0200 From: Peter van Dijk To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 STABLE broken since today! Message-ID: <20000905172630.J61120@vuurwerk.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Peter van Dijk , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000905094300.B344@cipher.home.at> <39B4AD55.53A99609@yahoo.com> <39B4B7F4.8D2C20AE@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39B4B7F4.8D2C20AE@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 02:08:04AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 02:08:04AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > I rebuilt my userland and kernel 6 hours ago and nothing was broken > then. This message thread goes back to 30 August. It was indeed fixed. Nobody posted a HEADS UP. Greetz, Peter. -- [ircoper] petervd@vuurwerk.nl - Peter van Dijk / Hardbeat [student] Undernet:#groningen/wallops | IRCnet:/#alliance [developer] _____________ [disbeliever - the world is backwards] (__VuurWerk__(--*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 8:28: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D725337B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp26130024.columbus.rr.com [24.26.130.24]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13183 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39B51228.432143CE@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 11:32:57 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Stop error in make world Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just cvsupped yesterday, I've tried to `make buildworld' 3 times. The only time I didn't seem to get a stop error is when I did `make -k buildworld' However, immediately after doing that I did a `make buildworld' and got this error again. **** Error snippit ***** cc -c -I/usr/obj/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl -DVERSION=\"0.10\" -DXS_VERSION=\"0.10\" -DPIC -fpic -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl -DSDBM -DDUF hash.c Segmentation fault - core dumped *** Error code 139 Stop. *** Error code 1 .... Then those two lines repeat 8 times. I know this system has problems ... Any hints as to where I need to focus to get them fixed? If I did the `make -k buildworld' and then `make installworld', could that possibly set the stage for a successful `make buildworld' ??? Egad! (For those of you who aren't familiar with this thread ... this is a production machine and I comitted a cardinal sin by not being careful enough during a cvs upgrade ... I'm on the verge of being in deep sh*t!) TIA to anyone with any advice whatsoever. -Bill -- FreeBSD ('BSD'): No battles to the death are recalled. It is a small Daemon wearing sneakers. It is normally found on Internet servers and powerful desktops, and moves very quickly. A kill of this poweful creature is enough to tick off any sysadmin. It is highly magical, having the power to serve. It resists DoS and SYN flood attacks. Nothing is known about its attack. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 8:32: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from db.wireless.net (adsl-gte-la-216-86-194-70.mminternet.com [216.86.194.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B615F37B422; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from db.wireless.net (dbm.wireless.net [192.168.0.2]) by db.wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA81457; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:19:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbutter@db.wireless.net) Message-ID: <39B511DE.342167CA@db.wireless.net> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 08:31:42 -0700 From: Devin Butterfield X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" Cc: "Vladimir B. Grebenschikov" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony Z505SX and suspend (was Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops) References: <019c01c014fe$4279c860$8a42163f@KenMays> <39B19161.F6939E33@db.wireless.net> <14772.34457.593951.569974@vbook.express.ru> <20000905070856.B74933@hamlet.nectar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jacques A. Vidrine" wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:37:29AM +0400, Vladimir B. Grebenschikov wrote: > > > APM also works great. > > Oh, this reminds me of an odd problem I encounter only sometimes when > using `shutdown -p'. The operating system halts and the VAIO shuts down > /almost/. One of the little LEDs stays on and the fan is still going. > I have to unplug power & battery to actually power off. The next time I > boot, fsck finds the file systems clean, which is good and indicates > to me that we get through the operating system shutdown. > > It doesn't always happen. > Yes, I have had this happen to me a number of times...actually if I say "reboot" it will sometimes do this. No idea... -- Regards, Devin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 8:51:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DFC37B43E for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17820; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.9.3/8.7.3) id IAA23784; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:51:11 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Jean-Francois Dockes Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with make world (Sunday) Message-ID: <20000905085111.A83919@tao.thought.org> References: <20000904161814.A58272@tao.thought.org> <14772.40625.548392.199486@hautmedoc.dockes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14772.40625.548392.199486@hautmedoc.dockes.com>; from jean-francois.dockes@wanadoo.fr on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:20:17AM +0200 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:20:17AM +0200, Jean-Francois Dockes wrote: > Gary Kline writes: > > For the record, I just cvsup'ed this morning Monday, 04sep00) and > > buildworld hangs here: > > > > ===> objdump > > ... > > cc -O -pipe -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../libbfd/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../libbinutils -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/binutils -DBFD_VERSION=\"2.10.0\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -o objdump objdump.o prdbg.o ../libbinutils/libbinutils.a ../libopcodes/libopcodes.a ../libbfd/libbfd.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a > > ../libiberty/libiberty.a(choose-temp.o): In function `make_temp_file': > > choose-temp.o(.text+0x264): undefined reference to `mkstemps' > > *** Error code 1 > > I don't know if this applies to your case, but I had this error while > trying a direct upgrade from 3.2-release to 4-stable. It appears that > mkstemps() came in later than 3.2. I guess that a cvsup/buildworld to 3-stable > would be the correct way to solve this issue, but I just ar'd the > appropriate 4.x libc file into libiberty (cough, cough), in case it would > save me one more cvsup and it did do it... I then remade world under > 4-stable to clean things up. I should have grep'd my ~/Mail files earlier. On 20 August the same mkstemps snafu hit me. The fix was (and is) to add mkstemps.c to the SRCS list in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libiberty/Makefile. The libiberty/Makefile still needs patching and the patch still needs a cvs commit. ...Anybody?? gary > -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 9: 3:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.runapplications.com (www.runapplications.com [196.3.153.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AA637B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.runapplications.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.runapplications.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 801FC7866A for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:01:24 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Smith Reply-To: cyber@colis.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: cant make buildkernel Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:51:40 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00090411012300.60663@www.runapplications.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been tracking stable for a while without incident but since the last 2 weeks, after a cvsup and a make buildworld, make buildkernel fails with " make: dont know how to make /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c. Stop " Any ideas as to why this happens ? my last cvsup was yesterday. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 9:11:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4F137B423 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e85GBFU16170; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009051611.e85GBFU16170@ptavv.es.net> To: Vivek Khera Cc: Brad Knowles , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: affordable wireless In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Sep 2000 10:34:46 EDT." <14773.1158.657375.297666@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 09:11:15 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Even at 128 bits, WEP encryption is, at best, rather weak. The right answer is to use strong encryption for everything. OpenSSH is now a standard part of FreeBSD. Use it and stop sending clear passwords over the net. Then you don't care about the security of the link, only the end nodes. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 9:12: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from msgbas1tx.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1tx.cos.agilent.com [192.6.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389BE37B440 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1tx.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5A3158 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:12:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDAE9E for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:12:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id JAA25260 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009051612.JAA25260@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: affordable wireless Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 03 Sep 2000 20:07:38 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 09:12:01 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Sameer R. Manek" wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to have 802.11 wireless for home > users? Naturally it should be supported by FreeBSD. Configuruation can be > done on any pc os though. > > My only affordable solution so far is to use the Apple AirPort base station, > and wavelan pcmcia cards, but I don't know if they can co-exist, and the > AirPort needs a Macintosh to configure. My idea of affordable for this is > less then $500, the lucent wavelan solution works out to about $900 startup, > that's a little out of my budget. Just to let everyone know: I should be getting a TechWorks (Buffalo) AirStation in the next couple of days, and I'll be adding it to my FreeBSD Wireless documentation. A co-worker got one, and we played with it briefly; it doesn't look too bad. It's an actual base station (does not work in ad-hoc mode). I don't know if it supports NAT/DHCP though, although bridging appears to work fine. Other comments: * Configuration is done via a web browser (bleah). * Only supports 40-bit encryption. Don't know if it's like the AirPort when it comes to the 128-bit encryption upgrade, though. * Keys can be entered as hex (yes!). * The $279 model doesn't have a modem. With a modem, it's $299 (the same as the AirPort). * It works fine with my Lucent Orinoco (WaveLan) gold card (we didn't try enabling encryption, though). -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 9:19:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from buchanan-181-249.stures.iastate.edu (buchanan-181-249.stures.iastate.edu [129.186.181.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D6737B423 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kparz@localhost) by buchanan-181-249.stures.iastate.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e85GK9P07294 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:20:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kparz) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:20:09 -0500 From: Krzysztof Parzyszek To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Cvsup mirrors Message-ID: <20000905112009.B7168@buchanan-181-249.stures.iastate> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have recently noticed that cvsup*.freebsd.org can happen to have different contents. In particular I cvsupped all from (AFAIR) cvsup3 and it deleted rsa_eay.c. Repeated (in about 5 minutes) cvsup from cvsup5 checked the file out again. Which cvsup server is the most accurate? Anyway, rsa_eay.c is a part of librsaINTL.a. How is it possible that it wasn't in the repository? -- , The power . Any sufficiently advan- dP to serve 7b Krzysztof Parzyszek .----> ced bug is indistingui- (8b ____ d8) --------------------+----> shable from a feature. `88bo8FBSD8od88' hektor@iname.com `----> -- Rich Kulawiec To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 9:24:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from msgbas1tx.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1tx.cos.agilent.com [192.6.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA9137B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andom1.an.hp.com (andom1.an.hp.com [15.4.128.104]) by msgbas1tx.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A2D2EC for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:24:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by andom1.an.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CDD294 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id JAA26722 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009051624.JAA26722@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: affordable wireless Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 05 Sep 2000 09:11:15 PDT." <200009051611.e85GBFU16170@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 09:24:22 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Kevin Oberman" wrote: > Even at 128 bits, WEP encryption is, at best, rather weak. The right > answer is to use strong encryption for everything. > > OpenSSH is now a standard part of FreeBSD. Use it and stop sending > clear passwords over the net. Then you don't care about the security > of the link, only the end nodes. Very true. If people want to know why, see: http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-net/2000/02/04/0001.html -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 9:29:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wedgev.com (cm57-70.liwest.at [212.33.57.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217E437B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wedge by smtp.wedgev.com with local (Exim 3.13 #1 (FreeBSD)) id 13WLbM-0002EK-00; Tue, 05 Sep 2000 18:29:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:29:36 +0200 From: Bernhard Valenti To: Peter van Dijk Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 STABLE broken since today! Message-ID: <20000905182935.A8555@cipher.home.at> Reply-To: Bernhard Valenti References: <20000905094300.B344@cipher.home.at> <39B4AD55.53A99609@yahoo.com> <39B4B7F4.8D2C20AE@urx.com> <20000905172630.J61120@vuurwerk.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000905172630.J61120@vuurwerk.nl>; from petervd@vuurwerk.nl on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:26:30PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It was indeed fixed. Nobody posted a HEADS UP. i know thats it has been fixed... i was wondering why there wasnt a HEADS UP when the problem was discovered. sometimes its not clear wether there is a problem or not... i mean there are almost daily mails that buildworld or whatever is broken, and most of the time its just the admin doing something wrong. there should be a official statement when something major is really broken, even if it has been fixed there should be a offical "fixed" notify mail. Bernhard Valenti To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 9:30:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0987337B449 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D03E8D1 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e85GUGQ34004; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:30:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14773.8087.865109.666565@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:30:15 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: affordable wireless In-Reply-To: <200009051611.e85GBFU16170@ptavv.es.net> References: <14773.1158.657375.297666@onceler.kciLink.com> <200009051611.e85GBFU16170@ptavv.es.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 11) "Carlsbad Caverns" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "KO" == Kevin Oberman writes: KO> OpenSSH is now a standard part of FreeBSD. Use it and stop sending KO> clear passwords over the net. Then you don't care about the security KO> of the link, only the end nodes. But without encryption, anyone can talk to your base station. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 9:36:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26D737B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.31 2000/08/22 00:15:13 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id JAA29648; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:36:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id JAA19741; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:36:21 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id MAA05639; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:36:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14773.8453.377683.31801@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:36:21 -0700 (MST) To: Bill Moran Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Stop error in make world In-Reply-To: <39B51228.432143CE@columbus.rr.com> References: <39B51228.432143CE@columbus.rr.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Tuesday, September 5, Bill Moran wrote: ] > Just cvsupped yesterday, I've tried to `make buildworld' 3 times. The > only time I didn't seem to get a stop error is when I did `make -k > buildworld' However, immediately after doing that I did a `make > buildworld' and got this error again. > > I know this system has problems ... Any hints as to where I need to > focus to get them fixed? > If I did the `make -k buildworld' and then `make installworld', could > that possibly set the stage for a successful `make buildworld' ??? > > Egad! > > (For those of you who aren't familiar with this thread ... this is a > production machine and I comitted a cardinal sin by not being careful > enough during a cvs upgrade ... I'm on the verge of being in deep sh*t!) Well, I just cvsup'ed 1 hour ago and built world. No problems. That segfault you got when building perl looks really odd. Other people have said that segfaults during buildworld are generally hardware problems. Most likely memory. Any chance of you swapping out the memory in the machine? Anyway, just reporting "no errors" here with a fresh tree. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 9:41:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apoq.skynet.be (apoq.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D2A37B423 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by apoq.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAB898BF; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:41:35 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200009051611.e85GBFU16170@ptavv.es.net> References: <200009051611.e85GBFU16170@ptavv.es.net> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:32:12 +0200 To: "Kevin Oberman" , Vivek Khera From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: affordable wireless Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 9:11 AM -0700 2000/9/5, Kevin Oberman wrote: > Even at 128 bits, WEP encryption is, at best, rather weak. The right > answer is to use strong encryption for everything. If I'm not mistaken, this is actually using Triple DES at 128 bits, so this is still decently strong. The problem is that the normal WEP key is only 40 bits long, which we know can be cracked in a matter of only a few seconds. > OpenSSH is now a standard part of FreeBSD. Use it and stop sending > clear passwords over the net. Then you don't care about the security > of the link, only the end nodes. OpenSSH is good, and I certainly use it (and other ssh products) where possible. However, it is not a panacea, it cannot be used everywhere, and if you can enable additional encryption at the link level, then you should certainly do that. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 9:42:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtpproxy1.mitre.org (mb-20-100.mitre.org [129.83.20.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA75E37B423 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy1.mitre.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22362 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailsrv2.mitre.org (mailsrv2.mitre.org [129.83.221.17]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18912 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mitre.org ([128.29.145.140]) by mailsrv2.mitre.org (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with ESMTP id G0FAF200.VK9; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:42:38 -0400 Message-ID: <39B52280.7FF1BA82@mitre.org> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 12:42:40 -0400 From: "Andresen,Jason R." Organization: The MITRE Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-20000509M (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cyber@colis.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cant make buildkernel References: <00090411012300.60663@www.runapplications.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary Smith wrote: > > I have been tracking stable for a while without incident but since the last 2 > weeks, after a cvsup and a make buildworld, make buildkernel fails with " make: > dont know how to make /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c. Stop " > > Any ideas as to why this happens ? my last cvsup was yesterday. > The softupdates code was merged with current (the licence issues were resolved I guess), so when you cvsupped the system copied the updated ffs_softdep.c on your existing symlink, then deleted the target the symlink pointed to, leaving you with a dangling symlink. Delete those symlinks (ffs_softdep.c and softdep.h IIRC) and try cvsupping again. -- _ _ _ ___ ____ ___ ______________________________________ / \/ \ | ||_ _|| _ \|___| | Jason Andresen -- jandrese@mitre.org / /\/\ \ | | | | | |/ /|_|_ | Views expressed may not reflect those /_/ \_\|_| |_| |_|\_\|___| | of the Mitre Corporation. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 9:48:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0200B37B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp26130024.columbus.rr.com [24.26.130.24]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24115 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:47:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39B524F6.3D384748@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 12:53:10 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Stop error in make world References: <39B51228.432143CE@columbus.rr.com> <14773.8453.377683.31801@hip186.ch.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Reynolds~ wrote: > Well, I just cvsup'ed 1 hour ago and built world. No problems. That segfault > you got when building perl looks really odd. Other people have said that > segfaults during buildworld are generally hardware problems. Most likely > memory. I'd be surprised ... considering I did a successful `make world' about a month ago with no problems, and I've done many compilations (Apache, MySQL, php, ssh) on this machine with no problems prior to this. Still, it's a possibility, things do wear out/break/etc. > Any chance of you swapping out the memory in the machine? That's pretty much a last resort ... my goal is to fix this without having to drive 3.5 hours to the location where it exists. If nothing else works, I'll do that. > Anyway, just reporting "no errors" here with a fresh tree. Well, that's good news, it means I've botched something. I think the mistake is that I accidentally got a 3.X-STABLE tree over top the 4.X tree and the version of perl from 3.X (whatever version that is) isn't up to doing some of the chores that are required for a 4.X make world. My plan of attack at this point is: make -k buildworld make installworld make buildworld If at that point I have no errors, I'm home free to rebuild a current kernel and make installworld again. If I'm still having trouble. I'm going to try cvsdowning to 4.0-STABLE (which is what the machine was before this all started) and see if I can get it working. If that doesn't work and I can still get ssh access to the machine, I'll get really desperate and try getting a 3.5.1 machine on here. If that doesn't work, I'm driving 3.5 hours to do a clean installation (please no) If anyone has any better attack plans, I'm interested to hear them. Thanks for all the help so far. -Bill -- FreeBSD ('BSD'): No battles to the death are recalled. It is a small Daemon wearing sneakers. It is normally found on Internet servers and powerful desktops, and moves very quickly. A kill of this poweful creature is enough to tick off any sysadmin. It is highly magical, having the power to serve. It resists DoS and SYN flood attacks. Nothing is known about its attack. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 9:59:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.runapplications.com (www.runapplications.com [196.3.153.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AB137B42C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.runapplications.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.runapplications.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BDCC47866A; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:57:02 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Smith Reply-To: cyber@colis.com To: "Andresen,Jason R." Subject: Re: cant make buildkernel Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:55:26 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <00090411012300.60663@www.runapplications.com> <39B52280.7FF1BA82@mitre.org> In-Reply-To: <39B52280.7FF1BA82@mitre.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00090411570202.60663@www.runapplications.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks, I think that should work On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Andresen,Jason R. wrote: > Gary Smith wrote: > > > > I have been tracking stable for a while without incident but since the last 2 > > weeks, after a cvsup and a make buildworld, make buildkernel fails with " make: > > dont know how to make /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c. Stop " > > > > Any ideas as to why this happens ? my last cvsup was yesterday. > > > > The softupdates code was merged with current (the licence issues were > resolved I guess), so when you cvsupped the system copied the updated > ffs_softdep.c on your existing symlink, then deleted the target the > symlink pointed to, leaving you with a dangling symlink. > > Delete those symlinks (ffs_softdep.c and softdep.h IIRC) and try > cvsupping again. > > -- > _ _ _ ___ ____ ___ ______________________________________ > / \/ \ | ||_ _|| _ \|___| | Jason Andresen -- jandrese@mitre.org > / /\/\ \ | | | | | |/ /|_|_ | Views expressed may not reflect those > /_/ \_\|_| |_| |_|\_\|___| | of the Mitre Corporation. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 10: 9:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D5737B423 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10406; Tue, 05 Sep 2000 10:09:06 -0700 Message-ID: <39B528B2.31207BE5@urx.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 10:09:06 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Dynacom Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Stop error in make world References: <39B51228.432143CE@columbus.rr.com> <14773.8453.377683.31801@hip186.ch.intel.com> <39B524F6.3D384748@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Moran wrote: > > John Reynolds~ wrote: > > > Well, I just cvsup'ed 1 hour ago and built world. No problems. That segfault > > you got when building perl looks really odd. Other people have said that > > segfaults during buildworld are generally hardware problems. Most likely > > memory. > > I'd be surprised ... considering I did a successful `make world' about a > month ago with no problems, and I've done many compilations (Apache, > MySQL, php, ssh) on this machine with no problems prior to this. Still, > it's a possibility, things do wear out/break/etc. > > > Any chance of you swapping out the memory in the machine? > > That's pretty much a last resort ... my goal is to fix this without > having to drive 3.5 hours to the location where it exists. If nothing > else works, I'll do that. > > > Anyway, just reporting "no errors" here with a fresh tree. > > Well, that's good news, it means I've botched something. I think the > mistake is that I accidentally got a 3.X-STABLE tree over top the 4.X > tree and the version of perl from 3.X (whatever version that is) isn't > up to doing some of the chores that are required for a 4.X make world. > My plan of attack at this point is: > make -k buildworld > make installworld > make buildworld I think if you really loaded a 3.5 tree on top, you will need to follow the cvsup upgrade path for 3.5 to 4.1 in /usr/src/UPDATING. You could also upgrade the binaries to 4.1-R and then rebuild userland and the kernel. There were such massive changes to /etc and all of the /binutils. I thought my "i" key was going to wear out running mergemaster :). Kent > > If at that point I have no errors, I'm home free to rebuild a current > kernel and make installworld again. > > If I'm still having trouble. I'm going to try cvsdowning to 4.0-STABLE > (which is what the machine was before this all started) and see if I can > get it working. > If that doesn't work and I can still get ssh access to the machine, I'll > get really desperate and try getting a 3.5.1 machine on here. > If that doesn't work, I'm driving 3.5 hours to do a clean installation > (please no) > > If anyone has any better attack plans, I'm interested to hear them. > > Thanks for all the help so far. > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 10:14:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FA237B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199BAE881 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e85HEh534410; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:14:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14773.10754.936013.155187@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:14:42 -0400 (EDT) To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Stop error in make world In-Reply-To: <39B524F6.3D384748@columbus.rr.com> References: <39B51228.432143CE@columbus.rr.com> <14773.8453.377683.31801@hip186.ch.intel.com> <39B524F6.3D384748@columbus.rr.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 11) "Carlsbad Caverns" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "BM" == Bill Moran writes: BM> I'd be surprised ... considering I did a successful `make world' about a BM> month ago with no problems, and I've done many compilations (Apache, BM> MySQL, php, ssh) on this machine with no problems prior to this. Still, BM> it's a possibility, things do wear out/break/etc. I had a machine with a CPU fan that stopped spinning. When doing a buildworld with anything else cpu-intensive running, it would do all sorts of flaky things, including segfaults. If the only thing running was buildworld, it would succeed. If I add in a cpu-intensive program, like the distributed.net client program, it would consistently fail at random points. I just put in a new fan and am testing out a buildworld with other things running as well. But this is most likely a hardware issue you're observing. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 10:34:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E034437B42C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e85HYBU18656; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009051734.e85HYBU18656@ptavv.es.net> To: Brad Knowles Cc: Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: affordable wireless In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Sep 2000 18:32:12 +0200." Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 10:34:11 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad, We can agree that the 40 bit stuff is not worth the trouble. My 128 bit Lucent card says "128-bit RC-4 encryption". Last I heard, RC-4 was not considered a "safe" algorithm. Also, in any multi-user environment, the secret must be too public. (I believe that when I know something, it's secure. When I tell someone, it's secret. When someone else is told, it's public.) Using an encrypted link is fine, but I worry that people will believe far too much in its security. (Especially when they see "128-bit".) If I'm wrong and it is 3DES, never mind! But still use ssh whenever possible. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 11: 5: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6FC37B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00083; Tue, 05 Sep 2000 11:04:59 -0700 Message-ID: <39B535CC.C48F7826@urx.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 11:05:00 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Dynacom Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Krzysztof Parzyszek Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cvsup mirrors References: <20000905112009.B7168@buchanan-181-249.stures.iastate> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Krzysztof Parzyszek wrote: > > Hi, > > I have recently noticed that cvsup*.freebsd.org can happen to have > different contents. In particular I cvsupped all from (AFAIR) cvsup3 and > it deleted rsa_eay.c. Repeated (in about 5 minutes) cvsup from cvsup5 > checked the file out again. > > Which cvsup server is the most accurate? > Anyway, rsa_eay.c is a part of librsaINTL.a. How is it possible > that it wasn't in the repository? These appear to all be mirrors and mirrors are updated in their own time. I don't think it matters which one you use as long as you stick with one. If you are looking for a fix from cvs-all, capture the changes to a log file and look for it. Switch sites and you could be using a site that the cron job hasn't fired up and updated its source yet. Someone asked at one point in the past (it would be in the archives about the time 4.1 was at rc1) and IIRC the report was something like they all run once an hour. They didn't comment on what time during the hour were the cron jobs running. The last time I checked my /ncvs was around 1+GB and that is a lot of code to check up on. If there were a lot of mirrors around the world, you could even schedule update times to even out usage. You wouldn't want 40 or 50 sites checking cvs at the same time. I was thinking of doing my own release and set my server up to have a mirror. It hasn't been updated for awhile and du of ncvs shows 788630 ncvs/src 1014951 ncvs Kent > > -- > , The power . Any sufficiently advan- > dP to serve 7b Krzysztof Parzyszek .----> ced bug is indistingui- > (8b ____ d8) --------------------+----> shable from a feature. > `88bo8FBSD8od88' hektor@iname.com `----> -- Rich Kulawiec > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 11: 9:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD1F37B423; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA29426; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:09:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:09:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Kent Stewart Cc: Krzysztof Parzyszek , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cvsup mirrors In-Reply-To: <39B535CC.C48F7826@urx.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Krzysztof Parzyszek wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have recently noticed that cvsup*.freebsd.org can happen to have > > different contents. In particular I cvsupped all from (AFAIR) cvsup3 and > > it deleted rsa_eay.c. Repeated (in about 5 minutes) cvsup from cvsup5 > > checked the file out again. > > > > Which cvsup server is the most accurate? > > Anyway, rsa_eay.c is a part of librsaINTL.a. How is it possible > > that it wasn't in the repository? cvsup3 doesnt contain rsa_eay.c because of potential legal implications since it's hosted at MIT, which has ties to the RSA patent. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 11:20: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639E337B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e85IK0W39213; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:20:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Randall Hopper Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question on catching SIGFPE In-Reply-To: <20000902135131.A18991@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Randall Hopper wrote: > I'm teaching Python to catch SIGFPE, and currently I have this: > > #elif defined(__FreeBSD__) > #include > fpresetsticky( FP_X_INV | FP_X_DZ | FP_X_OFL ); > fpsetmask( FP_X_INV | FP_X_DZ | FP_X_OFL ); > signal(SIGFPE, handler); > > which executes on initialization and every time one of these 3 FP exceptions > is caught in "handler". > > It works fine for the first FP exception (handler is called and the above > code reexecutes). But for subsequent exceptions, handler is "not" called. > > Apparently I'm not doing something I should be. What is it? fpresetsticky() Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 11:20:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2E837B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e85IKtq44153; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:20:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Randall Hopper Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question on catching SIGFPE In-Reply-To: <20000902135131.A18991@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Randall Hopper wrote: > Apparently I'm not doing something I should be. What is it? Also see the CAVEAT on the fpsetmask(2) man page. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 11:23:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEF537B43F for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e85IN5L48142; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:23:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: simond@irrelevant.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with installing 4.1-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <20000902204907.A5182@irrelevant.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 2 Sep 2000 simond@irrelevant.org wrote: > Hiya, is there any reason why "flags 0x1" got added to the atkbd0 line > somewhere between 4.0 and 4.1? I'm asking as when I was trying to install > 4.1-RELEASE it wasn't recognising the keyboard, installing with 4.0-RELEASE > worked, after which I tried cvsuping to 4.1-STABLE which still didn't work. I believe this is to facilitate USB keyboards. From the atkbd man page: bit 0 (FAIL_IF_NO_KBD) By default the atkbd driver will install even if a keyboard is not actually connected to the system. This option prevents the driver from being installed in this situation. If the atkbd driver loads it will become the default keyboard even if a USB keyboard is present. If your keyboard controller is busted then you can try removing the flag. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 11:28: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE4B37B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e85IS0Z56437; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:28:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Vivek Khera Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: affordable wireless In-Reply-To: <14773.8087.865109.666565@onceler.kciLink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "KO" == Kevin Oberman writes: > > KO> OpenSSH is now a standard part of FreeBSD. Use it and stop sending > KO> clear passwords over the net. Then you don't care about the security > KO> of the link, only the end nodes. > > But without encryption, anyone can talk to your base station. Um, no; at least with the AirPort you can set a list of card MACs that have access to the base station. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 11:55:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [208.164.68.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8487837B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03225; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:55:10 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:54:38 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Jim Weeks Cc: Warner Losh , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > It should be supported. What, specifically, does it need from PAO > > that isn't already in -current/-stable? > > Sorry I didn't furnish this information the first time. It is a TDK > DF3000. I realize it is an old card, but it still works good, and it is > about as fast as any Hotel/Motel telephone line will allow any way. > > I assume that built in PCI modems are still not supported either? Speaking about cards, anyone know if the 3Com 3CCFEM656B 10/100 LAN + 56k Combo modem card will work? I know it's cardbus. I just have a 770Z sitting here doing nothing with 14gig HDD/320mB RAM since I got a new A20P =) Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 12:20:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F8D37B42C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp26130024.columbus.rr.com [24.26.130.24]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15695 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:19:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39B5489A.F30675A7@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 15:25:14 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Stop error in make world References: <39B51228.432143CE@columbus.rr.com> <14773.8453.377683.31801@hip186.ch.intel.com> <39B524F6.3D384748@columbus.rr.com> <39B528B2.31207BE5@urx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good news ... make -k buildworld completed make installworld got a good way through but hit stop errors The `ps' command started working again With my fingers crossed, I started make buildworld It just finished with no errors!!! (boy am I relieved!) I'm now doing the installworld ... I've already had some good signs, `ps' started working again after the first `installworld' so this is looking very hopeful! I guess the overall lesson is that upgrading a system should always be taken very seriously, no matter how easy the `make world' target makes it seem! Thanks to all who gave suggestions over the past day. -Bill Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Anyway, just reporting "no errors" here with a fresh tree. > > > > Well, that's good news, it means I've botched something. I think the > > mistake is that I accidentally got a 3.X-STABLE tree over top the 4.X > > tree and the version of perl from 3.X (whatever version that is) isn't > > up to doing some of the chores that are required for a 4.X make world. > > My plan of attack at this point is: > > make -k buildworld > > make installworld > > make buildworld > > I think if you really loaded a 3.5 tree on top, you will need to > follow the cvsup upgrade path for 3.5 to 4.1 in /usr/src/UPDATING. > > You could also upgrade the binaries to 4.1-R and then rebuild userland > and the kernel. There were such massive changes to /etc and all of the > /binutils. I thought my "i" key was going to wear out running > mergemaster :). > > Kent > > > > > If at that point I have no errors, I'm home free to rebuild a current > > kernel and make installworld again. > > > > If I'm still having trouble. I'm going to try cvsdowning to 4.0-STABLE > > (which is what the machine was before this all started) and see if I can > > get it working. > > If that doesn't work and I can still get ssh access to the machine, I'll > > get really desperate and try getting a 3.5.1 machine on here. > > If that doesn't work, I'm driving 3.5 hours to do a clean installation > > (please no) > > > > If anyone has any better attack plans, I'm interested to hear them. > > > > Thanks for all the help so far. -- FreeBSD ('BSD'): No battles to the death are recalled. It is a small Daemon wearing sneakers. It is normally found on Internet servers and powerful desktops, and moves very quickly. A kill of this poweful creature is enough to tick off any sysadmin. It is highly magical, having the power to serve. It resists DoS and SYN flood attacks. Nothing is known about its attack. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 12:55:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cylant.com (generic.cylant.com [208.205.160.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9983737B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cylant.com (littleblue [208.205.160.34]) by mail.cylant.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05014 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:55:00 -0700 Message-ID: <39B54F90.98479552@cylant.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 12:54:56 -0700 From: "Jesse C. McConnell" Organization: Cylant Technology, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.1-STABLE nlist issue? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a dual P-Pro 200 system and have issues with running a program like 'top'.. I get 'nlist: failed'. I updated on Saturday and built a new kernel, but same problem. So both the generic kernel and mine don't work. Any ideas? Jesse -- Jesse C. McConnell Cylant Technology, LLC jesse@cylant.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 13: 4:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BF137B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e85K4LF43472; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000905155345.03e76100@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 15:59:14 -0400 To: "Jesse C. McConnell" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: 4.1-STABLE nlist issue? In-Reply-To: <39B54F90.98479552@cylant.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:54 PM 9/5/00 -0700, Jesse C. McConnell wrote: >I have a dual P-Pro 200 system and have issues with running a >program like 'top'.. > >I get 'nlist: failed'. > >I updated on Saturday and built a new kernel, but same problem. So both >the generic kernel and mine don't work. > >Any ideas? Are you using an old version of /boot/loader or booting in any non standard way ? go to http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml Enter in *freebsd* in the forum, and nlist for the keywords. There was a discussion about it a few weeks back. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 13:26:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw1.riteaid.com (fw1.riteaid.com [204.28.140.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B69137B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fw1.riteaid.com; id QAA25231; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(10.1.3.133) by fw1.riteaid.com via smap (4.1) id xma025201; Tue, 5 Sep 00 16:25:44 -0400 Received: from halcyon.net (qmailr@[172.16.32.145]) by mail.corp.riteaid.com (8.7.3 Version 1.1 Build 562/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00184 for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2000 16:20:38 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Received: (qmail 59526 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Sep 2000 21:19:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:19:38 -0500 From: Jason Kasper To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: recent weirdness in cc1plus? Message-ID: <20000905161937.C58235@judea.firstblind.net> Reply-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there. I just cvsup'd two nights ago and am experiencing weirdness in regards to cc1plus. I'm not sure if it is related to a recent change in cc1plus, or the phase of the moon, or my having eaten chili for dinner last night, but if anybody can help me with this, I'd appreciate it. The problem that I'm having has only reared its ugly in head while I'm trying to compile kdelibs-20000829A via ports. I guess the sheer size of this monster is what could be triggering the symptoms, but I digress. I'm running FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE and as I said above, I just cvsup'd two nights ago (Sep 3 20:54 EST). I am using a Compaq Armada 7800 laptop with a Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (300.01-M Hz 686-class CPU), 64 megs of RAM, and 128 megs of swap space. (gideon@judea:~) /usr/libexec/cc1plus -version (03:46P/538/ttyp9) GNU C++ version 2.95.2 19991024 (release) (i386-unknown-freebsd) compiled by GNU C version 2.95.2 19991024 (release). options passed: options enabled: -fpeephole -ffunction-cse -fkeep-static-consts -freg-struct-return -fexceptions -fsjlj-exceptions -fcommon -fgnu-linker -fargument-alias -fident -m80387 -mhard-float -mno-soft-float -mieee-fp -mfp-ret-in-387 -mno-fancy-math-387 -mschedule-prologue -mcpu=i386 -march=pentium What happens is that cc1plus goes merrily along, trying to compile its way through kdelibs-20000829A and does so with nary a complaint until it hits here: Making all in mcopidl gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs2/work/kdelibs-20000829A/arts/mcopidl' c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../dcop -I../../kdecore -I../../kdeui -I/usr/X11R6/include/qt2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I./../mcop -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -pipe -O -march=pentiumpro -mpentiumpro -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized -frtti -c mcopidl.cc At this point, top shows: PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 59072 root 47 0 38632K 37788K RUN 0:26 65.61% 56.30% cc1plus After about a half a minute of compiling, it appears that cc1plus goes into a tailspin and starts steadily chewing up memory. It doubles its SIZE and the RES memory shown below will continue growing until it eats up all of my swap space and the box grinds to a halt until I kill it off. I also get a gazillion of the dreaded "/kernel: swap_pager: out of swap space" and "/kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed" messages. PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 59072 root -22 0 86088K 14624K swread 0:30 15.82% 15.43% cc1plus Now, I tried to solve the problem by lowering the memory parameters in /etc/login.conf for default and then re-running 'cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf', as shown below.... default:\ :cputime=unlimited:\ :datasize=unlimited:\ :stacksize=unlimited:\ :memorylocked=40M:\ :memoryuse=40M:\ :memoryuse-cur=40M:\ :filesize=unlimited:\ :coredumpsize=unlimited:\ :openfiles=unlimited:\ :maxproc=unlimited:\ :sbsize=unlimited:\ :priority=0:\ :ignoretime@:\ :umask=022: Apparently, this had no effect, as when I logged out and back in again and tried the whole thing again, I still get a mutating cc1plus that kills my box. So I guess my questions are: 1) Has anybody ever seen this type of anti-social behavior before? 2) What am I doing wrong in my /etc/login.conf such that this anti-social behavior is not stopped before it's allowed to use up all of my swap space and generally do no-so-nice things to my machine? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated--not so much because I want to run kde2, but I'd really like to prevent this sort of thing from happening--no matter what tries to cause it. Thanks very much.... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jason Kasper (vanRijn) Systems Engineer bash$ :(){ :|:&};: VORFA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 13:27:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC5237B423 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=root) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13WMmX-000GPZ-00; Tue, 05 Sep 2000 18:45:13 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01536; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:45:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:45:12 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Krzysztof Parzyszek Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cvsup mirrors Message-ID: <20000905184512.F72445@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <20000905112009.B7168@buchanan-181-249.stures.iastate> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000905112009.B7168@buchanan-181-249.stures.iastate> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Krzysztof Parzyszek wrote: > I have recently noticed that cvsup*.freebsd.org can happen to have > different contents. In particular I cvsupped all from (AFAIR) cvsup3 and > it deleted rsa_eay.c. Repeated (in about 5 minutes) cvsup from cvsup5 > checked the file out again. So don't do that. The servers only cvsup from the master repository once per hour, so if you cvsup more frequently than that from different servers you *will* see problems. If you must cvsup more often than that, use the same server each time. > Which cvsup server is the most accurate? None of them are. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 13:33:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ns2.warpnet.ro [194.153.243.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781C837B424; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02738; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:48:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:48:29 +0300 (EEST) From: Adrian Penisoara To: ache@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: conf/21065: 4.1-STABLE cons25w termcap entry screwed In-Reply-To: <200009051659.JAA15410@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Tue, 5 Sep 2000 ache@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: 4.1-STABLE cons25w termcap entry screwed > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: ache > State-Changed-When: Tue Sep 5 09:57:02 PDT 2000 > State-Changed-Why: > Apparently you not log in from the same kernel's console as you report. Yes. Does that mean that all non 4.1-STABLE machines are left in the cold when it comes to log into a 4.1-STABLE system from them ?!? Is updating /usr/share/misc/termcap to the version in the -stable tree sufficient to make things work between 3.x and -stable machines ? This should have been _at least_ documented if not brought into attention with a HEADS UP meessage on the appropiate lists... Ady (@warpnet.ro) > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21065 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 13:37:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bunyip.flash.net (bunyip.flash.net [209.30.2.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4182837B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdbox.SAMBA (208-194-215-98.flash.net [208.194.215.98]) by bunyip.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07150; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:37:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <39B55AFA.167EB0E7@access1.net> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 16:46:20 -0400 From: Courtney Thomas X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) References: <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000904205235.0337b050@mail.sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings ! I appreciate being in your debt for knowing...... 1-where'd you get the controllers ? 2-is vinum the only software needed, i.e. no drivers, etc ...? Gratefully, Courtney <----------------End of Msg--------------- Mike Tancsa wrote: > > At 10:25 AM 9/5/2000 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > BTW, is vinum in theory and practice as stable on ata drives as on > > > SCSI ? > > > >Yes. Make sure you don't have more than one drive per controller, or > >performance will suffer. > > I ordered 2 surplus ATA66 controllers for $35CDN on Friday. To start with > 3 drives in RAID 5 I guess... Hmmm, actually if one drive in theory is > slower (ata 33) will that cause me problems ? > > ---Mike > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 > Network Administration, mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 13:45: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D4D37B43E for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27733; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:44:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA63130; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:44:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009052044.OAA63130@harmony.village.org> To: cyber@colis.com Subject: Re: cant make buildkernel Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Sep 2000 10:51:40 CDT." <00090411012300.60663@www.runapplications.com> References: <00090411012300.60663@www.runapplications.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 14:44:11 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <00090411012300.60663@www.runapplications.com> Gary Smith writes: : I have been tracking stable for a while without incident but since the last 2 : weeks, after a cvsup and a make buildworld, make buildkernel fails with " make: : dont know how to make /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c. Stop " : : Any ideas as to why this happens ? my last cvsup was yesterday. A while ago this changed from a link to real file. Maybe that's biting you? See UPDATING for details. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 13:47:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AEB37B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27755; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:47:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA63169; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:47:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009052047.OAA63169@harmony.village.org> To: "Kevin Oberman" Subject: Re: affordable wireless Cc: Vivek Khera , Brad Knowles , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Sep 2000 09:11:15 PDT." <200009051611.e85GBFU16170@ptavv.es.net> References: <200009051611.e85GBFU16170@ptavv.es.net> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 14:47:08 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200009051611.e85GBFU16170@ptavv.es.net> "Kevin Oberman" writes: : Even at 128 bits, WEP encryption is, at best, rather weak. The right : answer is to use strong encryption for everything. : : OpenSSH is now a standard part of FreeBSD. Use it and stop sending : clear passwords over the net. Then you don't care about the security : of the link, only the end nodes. People can still do limited traffic analysis of encrypted TCP connections. I believe that this analysis is harder with the WEP encryption, but might be mistaken. Also, the WEP encryption is done in hardware so it doesn't steal cycles. Maybe this isn't an issue on most modern hardware, but it might be. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 13:50:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949ED37B43F for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e85Kno072408; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 00:49:50 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 00:49:49 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Adrian Penisoara Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: conf/21065: 4.1-STABLE cons25w termcap entry screwed Message-ID: <20000906004948.B72273@nagual.pp.ru> References: <200009051659.JAA15410@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ady@warpnet.ro on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:48:29PM +0300 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:48:29PM +0300, Adrian Penisoara wrote: > > Apparently you not log in from the same kernel's console as you report. > > Yes. Does that mean that all non 4.1-STABLE machines are left in the > cold when it comes to log into a 4.1-STABLE system from them ?!? Is > updating /usr/share/misc/termcap to the version in the -stable tree > sufficient to make things work between 3.x and -stable machines ? It is impossible to fix termcap bugs AND stays compatible in the same time, since compatible variant IS buggy. There is workaround exists - for older clients put old termcap copy into ~/.termcap. > This should have been _at least_ documented if not brought into attention > with a HEADS UP meessage on the appropiate lists... Some sort of warning was in the related commit messages. Putting it into src/UPDATING is good idea too, but my English is not good enough for that. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 13:51: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E80237B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27815; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:50:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:50:32 -0500 From: Tim Tsai To: Mike Tancsa Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Message-ID: <20000905155032.A27690@futuresouth.com> References: <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <20000905115126.A14470@myhakas.matti.ee> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905090105.053a13f0@marble.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000905090105.053a13f0@marble.sentex.ca>; from mike@sentex.net on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:02:44AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Thanks! Thats comforting to hear. I have been somewhat disappointed with > entry and medium level hardware RAID products in terms of > price/performance. Have you tried the new DPT driver yet? Just curious. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 13:52:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8963D37B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27789; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:52:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA63224; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:51:52 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009052051.OAA63224@harmony.village.org> To: Vincent Poy Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops Cc: Jim Weeks , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Sep 2000 08:54:38 -1000." References: Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 14:51:52 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Vincent Poy writes: : Speaking about cards, anyone know if the 3Com 3CCFEM656B 10/100 : LAN + 56k Combo modem card will work? I know it's cardbus. I just have a : 770Z sitting here doing nothing with 14gig HDD/320mB RAM since I got a new Cardbus means it won't for a little while yet. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 14: 2: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844EE37B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e85L1sF59985; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:01:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000905165313.037652c0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 16:56:46 -0400 To: Tim Tsai From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000905155032.A27690@futuresouth.com> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000905090105.053a13f0@marble.sentex.ca> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <20000905115126.A14470@myhakas.matti.ee> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905090105.053a13f0@marble.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03:50 PM 9/5/00 -0500, Tim Tsai wrote: > > Thanks! Thats comforting to hear. I have been somewhat disappointed with > > entry and medium level hardware RAID products in terms of > > price/performance. > > Have you tried the new DPT driver yet? Just curious. I have used and tried the following DAC960 PB,PL Megaraid 466, 1428 3ware 2 and 4 port UDMA 33 series cards Just about to test and compare the same Atlas IV drives (QUANTUM ATLAS IV 9 WLS 0B0B) usings a 2940U2 (aic7890/91) with vinum. I will post the results with the same three SCSI drives in the various adaptors in RAID5 (3 drive config) when done. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 14:19:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vega.uli.it (vega.uli.it [62.212.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0551A37B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from olgeni.uli.it (olgeni.uli.it [62.212.0.22]) by vega.uli.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC8C3B021 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:19:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:19:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Jimmy Olgeni X-Sender: olgeni@olgeni.localdomain.net To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: recent weirdness in cc1plus? In-Reply-To: <20000905161937.C58235@judea.firstblind.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, > So I guess my questions are: > 1) Has anybody ever seen this type of anti-social behavior before? I compiled kdelibs2 a few times and never noticed that. I have 256MBs of swap partitions (128MB each). Compilation has been slow at times and swap has been accessed, but I was running other large processes and the port build completed every time without eating all the memory. I'm running 4.1-STABLE of about one week ago. bye, Jimmy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 14:23:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from camelot.bitart.com (BITart-45.BITart.com [206.103.221.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B69737B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1951 invoked by uid 101); 5 Sep 2000 21:23:30 -0000 Message-ID: <20000905212330.1950.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Gerd Knops Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:23:29 -0500 To: Andrew Tulloch Subject: Re: ATA-100 Support Cc: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: gerti-freebsds@BITart.com References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew Tulloch wrote: > I've noticed some mentions of ATA-100 support, does nayone know if > the promise ATA-100 controller onboard the Asus A7V mobo is supported > in -stable? > No, it is not, for a patch see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=20834 Gerd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 14:25: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from camelot.bitart.com (BITart-45.BITart.com [206.103.221.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BEE4637B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1959 invoked by uid 101); 5 Sep 2000 21:25:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20000905212510.1958.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000905100949.038ccf00@marble.sentex.ca> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Gerd Knops Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:25:10 -0500 To: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: ATA-100 Support Cc: Andrew Tulloch , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: gerti-freebsds@BITart.com References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000905100949.038ccf00@marble.sentex.ca> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 02:19 PM 9/5/00 +0100, Andrew Tulloch wrote: > >I've noticed some mentions of ATA-100 support, does nayone know if > >the promise ATA-100 controller onboard the Asus A7V mobo is > >supported in -stable? > > Looking at the sources, it seems to be there. > > newmail% grep -i promise * > ata-all.c: return "Promise ATA33 controller"; > ata-all.c: return "Promise ATA66 controller"; > ata-all.c: return "Promise ATA100 controller"; > ata-all.c: /* Promise and HighPoint controllers support > busmastering DMA */ > ata-all.c: case 0x4d38105a: /* Promise 66's need their clock changed > */ ata-all.c: case 0x4d30105a: /* Promise 100's too */ > ata-all.c: case 0x4d33105a: /* Promise's need burst mode to be turned > on */ ata-all.c: case 0x4d33105a: /* Promise 33's */ > ata-all.c: case 0x4d38105a: /* Promise 66's */ > ata-all.c: case 0x4d30105a: /* Promise 100's */ > > It looks that way, but it isn't. The onboard Promise ATA100 chipset uses a different ID than the (supported) stand-alone board. See my patch at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=20834 Gerd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 15: 7:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D99D37B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from owp.csus.edu ([130.86.77.19]) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA38469; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:07:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Message-ID: <39B56DB0.44529118@owp.csus.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 15:03:28 -0700 From: Joseph Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maikel Verheijen Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS Maestro 2E References: <20000905145035.M69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Maikel Verheijen wrote: > > Hi all! > > Is the ESS Maestro 2E audio controller supported by FreeBSD 4.1? > > I have one in my laptop, but it seems unsupported. You don't mention which notebook this is for. I've got a Dell Inspiton 7500 with this sound card in it. I know others have pointed you to the drivers for this, but that driver doesn't enable the internal speakers on the 7500. Someone else came up with a patch to the driver that others have already pointed you to. I put up copies of the driver and the patch on my site. Driver : http://www.randomnetworks.com/files/maestro-r4-20000725.tar.gz Patch for internal speakers on Dell Inspiron 7500 : http://www.randomnetworks.com/files/mstr2_spk.patch2 -- Joseph Scott joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu The Office Of Water Programs - CSU Sacramento To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 15:19:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189D637B42C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e85MIxA73369; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 02:18:59 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 02:18:54 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Adrian Penisoara Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: conf/21065: 4.1-STABLE cons25w termcap entry screwed Message-ID: <20000906021852.A73301@nagual.pp.ru> References: <200009051659.JAA15410@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000906004948.B72273@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000906004948.B72273@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 12:49:49AM +0400 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 12:49:49AM +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:48:29PM +0300, Adrian Penisoara wrote: > > > Apparently you not log in from the same kernel's console as you report. > > > > Yes. Does that mean that all non 4.1-STABLE machines are left in the > > cold when it comes to log into a 4.1-STABLE system from them ?!? Is > > updating /usr/share/misc/termcap to the version in the -stable tree > > sufficient to make things work between 3.x and -stable machines ? > > It is impossible to fix termcap bugs AND stays compatible in the same > time, since compatible variant IS buggy. There is workaround exists - for > older clients put old termcap copy into ~/.termcap. Alternative workaround which comes to mind first is renaming termcap entry, but among other problems it cause the same problem reversed and worse, i.e. with loging from new releases to old ones for which renamed entry simple not exist. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 16:19: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3170837B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e85NIZc48773; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:48:35 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:48:35 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Tim Tsai , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Message-ID: <20000906084835.B21113@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <20000905115126.A14470@myhakas.matti.ee> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905090105.053a13f0@marble.sentex.ca> <20000905155032.A27690@futuresouth.com> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905165313.037652c0@marble.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000905165313.037652c0@marble.sentex.ca>; from mike@sentex.net on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:56:46PM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 5 September 2000 at 16:56:46 -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 03:50 PM 9/5/00 -0500, Tim Tsai wrote: >>> Thanks! Thats comforting to hear. I have been somewhat disappointed with >>> entry and medium level hardware RAID products in terms of >>> price/performance. >> >> Have you tried the new DPT driver yet? Just curious. > > I have used and tried the following > DAC960 PB,PL > Megaraid 466, 1428 > 3ware 2 and 4 port UDMA 33 series cards > > Just about to test and compare the same Atlas IV drives (QUANTUM ATLAS IV 9 > WLS 0B0B) usings a 2940U2 (aic7890/91) with vinum. I will post the results > with the same three SCSI drives in the various adaptors in RAID5 (3 drive > config) when done. Please make sure to use rawio in the tests. Other things, such as bonnie and dd, give better looking results, but they're not very related to what happens in practice. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 16:19:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E8237B423 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e85NJJg49240; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:49:19 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:49:19 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Courtney Thomas Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Message-ID: <20000906084919.C21113@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000904205235.0337b050@mail.sentex.net> <39B55AFA.167EB0E7@access1.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <39B55AFA.167EB0E7@access1.net>; from ccthomas@access1.net on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:46:20PM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 5 September 2000 at 16:46:20 -0400, Courtney Thomas wrote: > Mike Tancsa wrote: >> >> At 10:25 AM 9/5/2000 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >>>> BTW, is vinum in theory and practice as stable on ata drives as on >>>> SCSI ? >>> >>> Yes. Make sure you don't have more than one drive per controller, or >>> performance will suffer. >> >> I ordered 2 surplus ATA66 controllers for $35CDN on Friday. To start with >> 3 drives in RAID 5 I guess... Hmmm, actually if one drive in theory is >> slower (ata 33) will that cause me problems ? > > I appreciate being in your debt for knowing...... > > 1-where'd you get the controllers ? > > 2-is vinum the only software needed, i.e. no drivers, etc ...? You'll still need the disk drivers. But they're standard. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 16:25:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230B737B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03602; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:39:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200009052339.QAA03602@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Greg Lehey Cc: Mike Tancsa , Tim Tsai , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Sep 2000 08:48:35 +0930." <20000906084835.B21113@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 16:39:48 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Just about to test and compare the same Atlas IV drives (QUANTUM ATLAS IV 9 > > WLS 0B0B) usings a 2940U2 (aic7890/91) with vinum. I will post the results > > with the same three SCSI drives in the various adaptors in RAID5 (3 drive > > config) when done. > > Please make sure to use rawio in the tests. Other things, such as > bonnie and dd, give better looking results, but they're not very > related to what happens in practice. Rawio is largely a seek-time tester, and not particularly representative of real-world I/O loads either. To get a feel for how a controller interacts with the buffer cache, you need to present the load via the filesystem. I typically use a large number of bonnie processes (20 or so) working with large datasets (1-10GB) and then ignore their output and instead monitor the controller's throughput using devstat. Other filesystem load generators are probably worth considering as well, since bonnie's I/O patterns are not very imaginiative. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 16:25:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7D937B423 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e85NPRF52919; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:55:27 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:55:27 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Vallo Kallaste Cc: Mike Tancsa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Message-ID: <20000906085527.D21113@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <20000905115126.A14470@myhakas.matti.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000905115126.A14470@myhakas.matti.ee>; from vallo@matti.ee on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:51:26AM +0200 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 5 September 2000 at 11:51:26 +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:47:02PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > >> Thanks! I have a test system I will play with for a while before >> deploying. BTW, is vinum in theory and practice as stable on ata drives as >> on SCSI ? > > I spent a week lately trying out vinum with five ATA disks. The mobo had > ATA-100 capability, so two drives did run at ATA-100, the other ones at > ATA-66 (two Promise controllers). I pushed the RAID-5 quite hard with > continous parallel buildworld, two-days running postmark and bonnie++, > all at the same time. Had no problems, it seems really solid now. The > disks were IBM DTLA type, 15G. FWIW, the German magazine recently published a comparison of 331 disk drives (issue 16/00). The top performing IDE drive was the IBM DTLA 307030 (30 GB), with a weighted result of 20.7 MB/s. Only one SCSI drive exceeded this value. I don't see a 15 GB DTLA drive in the list, the smallest is 19 GB, but it only did 13.9 MB/s. Note that the benchmark is probably flawed: the tests found an average positioning time of 11.0 ms for the DTLA 307030, compared to as low as 7.2 ms for SCSI drives (IBM DDYS). If these times seem slow to you, c't measures positioning time differently from the manufacturers: they measure the average over the whole disk, while manufacturers measure the average over the first 504 MB (!). Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 16:39: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9779E37B43E for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e85Nd0V30486; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 19:39:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000905193014.033fd820@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 19:33:49 -0400 To: Courtney Thomas , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) In-Reply-To: <39B55AFA.167EB0E7@access1.net> References: <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000904205235.0337b050@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:46 PM 9/5/2000 -0400, Courtney Thomas wrote: >Greetings ! > >I appreciate being in your debt for knowing...... > >1-where'd you get the controllers ? http://www.us.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10023443&loc=101 has it listed for $22 USD. >2-is vinum the only software needed, i.e. no drivers, etc ...? vinum is software raid... So apart from the ata driver support (see man ata), no, you dont really need anything else.... ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 17: 7:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP3.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B0237B423 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu (UNIX11.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.15.15]) by smtp3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA20804 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:07:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregory C Schohn To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: fdisk won't work on new hard drives can't get Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi - I've recently purchased 2 different 18GB scsi drives (a barracuda & a cheetah, but the layout of the disks are identical). For the past month, I've not been able to get partitions laid on them that FreeBSD is willing to notice correctly (w/ disklabel & fdisk). I've tried a lot of different things. Originally I tried writing the partition information w/ sysinstall - that didn't work, then I tried fdisk w/ -u (& -i -u) & that didn't work. Each time that I wrote the values out - the light would flicker on the disk, but the partition table wasn't changed (presumably some other sector was changed). I've upgraded my machine a couple of times (& I'm going to be doing it once more now) & replaced /dev/MAKEDEV & the affiliated disks (da1 & da2) - yet I still can't get this to work... Here's the output from fdisk on the drives (I had successfully partitioned them under solaris86 which is why the solaris partitions are there). fdisk: invalid fdisk partition table found ******* Working on device /dev/da2 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=2181 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=2181 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 130,(Linux swap or Solaris x86) start 5136, size 5125728 (2502 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 34/ head 81; end: cyl 311/ sector 18/ head 97 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 6,(Primary 'big' DOS (> 32MB)) start 5128816, size 30414368 (14850 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 311/ sector 19/ head 97; end: cyl 164/ sector 18/ head 166 The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 1, size 35037764 (17108 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ sector 2/ head 0; note - I didn't put the 4th partition on - it continues to tell me that that parition exists - even though solaris (when I ran the installer) knew of only the first 2. Also - when I step through the sysinstall utility & try to make slices after I lay the partitions, it tells me that the devices aren't configured. It seems like my devices are hosed, but they've been rebuilt. when I try running disklabel on one of these disks disklabel: ioctl DIOCGDINFO: Invalid argument & device not configured when I try it on the slices. If anybody has any idea how I can fix this - please let me know - I've been searching the mailing lists & web for a LONG time. Also - please be sure to reply to me, as I'm not back on the stable mailing list yet (I will be when my machine is back up & from the upgrades). thanks, Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 17:12:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F6B37B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA38525; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:12:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200009060012.RAA38525@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: fdisk won't work on new hard drives can't get In-Reply-To: from Gregory C Schohn at "Sep 5, 2000 08:07:23 pm" To: Gregory C Schohn Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory C Schohn wrote: > hi - I've recently purchased 2 different 18GB scsi drives (a barracuda & a > cheetah, but the layout of the disks are identical). For the past month, > I've not been able to get partitions laid on them that FreeBSD is willing > to notice correctly (w/ disklabel & fdisk). First of all, make sure you have the latest fdisk. There were some bugs in it that have since been fixed. Secondly, what are you trying to accomplish exactly? If you are trying to blow away the existing mbr and start from scratch, try 'fdisk -I '. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 17:40:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zaphon.llamas.net (zaphon.llamas.net [207.203.36.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AA2337B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16236 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Sep 2000 00:40:45 -0000 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:40:44 -0700 From: Greg Rumple To: Brad Knowles Cc: Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: affordable wireless Message-ID: <20000905174044.C15222@zaphon.llamas.net> References: <14772.16607.870040.12214@kci.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from blk@skynet.be on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:45:40AM +0200 X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Brad Knowles (blk@skynet.be) [000905 10:02]: > At 8:39 PM -0400 2000/9/4, Vivek Khera wrote: > > > The AirPort base station contians within it a "silver" wavelan PCMCIA > > card. The regular wavelan cards you buy work well with it. > > I'm using this solution myself. In fact, I replaced the WaveLAN > card in the AirPort with a WaveLAN Gold (so that I can do 128-bit > encryption), and kept the WaveLAN Silver as backup. > > > I happen to have a Mac around to configure it, but I understand that > > the Karlbridge software for Windoze will configure it as well (except > > for some features such as the modem dialout). > > I downloaded the Karlbridge software and installed it on my > wife's PC laptop, and tried to use it to configure the AirPort. I > could not get this to work properly, so for the moment we're actually > running without encryption (the Karlbridge software is supposedly > able to allow you to change how the password is stored, because Apple > uses a hash of the password on the AirPort and in the Mac client, but > everyone else in the world uses the raw password itself). Use the java based configurator on this web site to configure it with. I have used this tool under FreeBSD just fine. http://edge.mcs.drexel.edu/GICL/people/sevy/airport/ I think I am using the linux-jdk for it, but it works none the less, and allows you to configure your base station from any OS. I have my basestation in bridging mode, and have yet to have a single problem with it (it's got an uptime of about 70 days right now). Greg -- Greg Rumple grumple@zaphon.llamas.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 18:45:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (CDR27-115.accesscable.net [24.138.27.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1808937B422; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA36525; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:44:36 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:44:34 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Getting the most out of SMP ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a machine (dmesg included below) that has two PIII-450s in her, 512Meg of RAM, etc, etc ... and I'm wondering if there is somethign that I should be setting that to improve performance ... Looking in LINT that are options that I'm not sure if/how I should be setting ... and searching through the mailing archives or web site don't appear to be bringing up anything .. for instance: =============== # Options for the VM subsystem. options PQ_CACHESIZE=512 # color for 512k/16k cache # Deprecated options supported for backwards compatibility. #options PQ_NOOPT # No coloring #options PQ_LARGECACHE # color for 512k/16k cache #options PQ_HUGECACHE # color for 1024k/16k cache #options PQ_MEDIUMCACHE # color for 256k/16k cache #options PQ_NORMALCACHE # color for 64k/16k cache =============== I have these two set cause they "sound good" ... but without really understandign the implications: # CPU_DISABLE_5X86_LSSER disables load store serialize (i.e. enables # reorder). This option should not be used if you use memory mapped # I/O device(s). # # CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU enables faster FPU exception handler. Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 19 15:12:46 EDT 2000 root@pgsql.tht.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/pgsql Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (451.03-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 536858624 (524276K bytes) avail memory = 519450624 (507276K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 16 -> irq 11 IOAPIC #0 intpin 17 -> irq 10 IOAPIC #0 intpin 19 -> irq 12 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0289000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 4.1 pci0: at 4.2 irq 12 Timecounter "PIIX" frequency 3579545 Hz chip1: port 0xe800-0xe80f at device 4.3 on pci0 ahc0: port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xe1800000-0xe180 0fff irq 12 at device 6.0 on pci0 ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs fxp0: port 0xa800-0xa83f mem 0xe0800000-0xe08fffff,0x e1000000-0xe1000fff irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:83:4b:9e fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 17431MB (35700480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2222C) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 20: 8:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A0737B423; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13WVZf-000Equ-00; Tue, 05 Sep 2000 20:08:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:08:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting the most out of SMP ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > # Options for the VM subsystem. > options PQ_CACHESIZE=512 # color for 512k/16k cache Page colouring isn't all that useful. The AUTO_EOI_* options can squeeze a bit more performance out of system. If your motherboard doesn't support EOI, your system will rapidly (< 5 minutes) lock up though. Stripping unnecessary drivers can help if you are short on RAM, but this can only save a few hundred K at most. Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 20:13:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cytherianage.net (cb801971-a.rchstr1.mn.home.com [24.17.34.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9BF37B42C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rtdean@localhost) by cytherianage.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e863C8010338; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:12:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:12:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Ryan T. Dean" To: Warner Losh Cc: cyber@colis.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cant make buildkernel In-Reply-To: <200009052044.OAA63130@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <00090411012300.60663@www.runapplications.com> Gary Smith writes: > : I have been tracking stable for a while without incident but since the last 2 > : weeks, after a cvsup and a make buildworld, make buildkernel fails with " make: > : dont know how to make /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c. Stop " > : > : Any ideas as to why this happens ? my last cvsup was yesterday. > > A while ago this changed from a link to real file. Maybe that's > biting you? See UPDATING for details. It was changed from a link to a real file, and it is in UPDATING. Soft updates went to the standard 2 clause BSD license, and thus the change. To fix it, cd /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs rm softdep.h ffs_softdep.c and then cvsup again. Cheers! -Ryan T. Dean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 20:42:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freemail.aecinfo.com (host-45.toronto.bricsnet.com [209.146.217.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C0837B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itdept (cr592943-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.32.78]) by freemail.aecinfo.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA02243 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:49:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mitayai@bricsnet.com) Reply-To: From: "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" To: "FreeBSD-Stable" Subject: mail relaying question Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:42:23 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hello, all! i have a question about the default freebsd-stable 4.1 mail relaying configuration with Sendmail 8.9.3. all users on my network and in my domain are getting "relaying denied" errors when trying to send mail outside of our domain via our mail server... i tried modifying /etc/mail/access with our domain name and network, refreshed the database, and even restarted sendmail to no avail. Then i tried specifying *every* IP and hostname with "OK". Still no luck. Am i missing something? Any help or advice would be appreciated... -Mit --- Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe mitayai@bricsnet.com Director of Internet Technology Bricsnet - http://www.bricsnet.com Click to add my contact info to your organizer: http://my.infotriever.com/mitayai To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 20:44:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C727437B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.11.1.Beta0/8.11.1.Beta0) id e863ipu24462; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:44:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14773.48563.216457.138105@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:44:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Cc: "FreeBSD-Stable" Subject: Re: mail relaying question In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.2 (beta35) "Nike" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mitayai> all users on my network and in my domain are getting "relaying mitayai> denied" errors when trying to send mail outside of our domain via mitayai> our mail server... i tried modifying /etc/mail/access with our mitayai> domain name and network, refreshed the database, and even mitayai> restarted sendmail to no avail. Then i tried specifying *every* IP mitayai> and hostname with "OK". Still no luck. Am i missing something? You want to use "RELAY", not "OK", to allow relaying. Alternatively, list the domain (assuming your client machine have PTR records setup properly) or IP addresses in /etc/mail/relay-domains and restart sendmail. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 20:45:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC4B37B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e863j6V30822; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:45:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000905233850.00b13120@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 23:39:56 -0400 To: , "FreeBSD-Stable" From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: mail relaying question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:42 PM 9/5/2000 -0400, Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: >hello, all! > >i have a question about the default freebsd-stable 4.1 mail relaying >configuration with Sendmail 8.9.3. > >all users on my network and in my domain are getting "relaying denied" >errors when trying to send mail outside of our domain via our mail server... >i tried modifying /etc/mail/access with our domain name and network, >refreshed the database, and even restarted sendmail to no avail. Then i >tried specifying *every* IP and hostname with "OK". Still no luck. Am i >missing something? I thought OK should work, but try RELAY next to their IP address or block. Then do a make in /etc/mail/ to rebuild the .db files. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 21:14:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freemail.aecinfo.com (host-45.toronto.bricsnet.com [209.146.217.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA2437B423; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 21:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itdept (cr592943-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.32.78]) by freemail.aecinfo.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA02338; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 00:21:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mitayai@bricsnet.com) Reply-To: From: "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" To: "Gregory Neil Shapiro" Cc: "FreeBSD-Stable" Subject: RE: mail relaying question Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 00:14:47 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <14773.48563.216457.138105@horsey.gshapiro.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Putting the C-Class in /etc/mail/relay-domains and restarting sendmail worked. Thanks! -Mit -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Neil Shapiro [mailto:gshapiro@FreeBSD.ORG] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 11:45 PM To: mitayai@bricsnet.com Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: mail relaying question mitayai> all users on my network and in my domain are getting "relaying mitayai> denied" errors when trying to send mail outside of our domain via mitayai> our mail server... i tried modifying /etc/mail/access with our mitayai> domain name and network, refreshed the database, and even mitayai> restarted sendmail to no avail. Then i tried specifying *every* IP mitayai> and hostname with "OK". Still no luck. Am i missing something? You want to use "RELAY", not "OK", to allow relaying. Alternatively, list the domain (assuming your client machine have PTR records setup properly) or IP addresses in /etc/mail/relay-domains and restart sendmail. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 21:34:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBF437B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 21:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e864YGV30891; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 00:34:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000906000615.03226880@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 00:29:06 -0400 To: Greg Lehey From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000906084835.B21113@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000905165313.037652c0@marble.sentex.ca> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <20000905115126.A14470@myhakas.matti.ee> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905090105.053a13f0@marble.sentex.ca> <20000905155032.A27690@futuresouth.com> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905165313.037652c0@marble.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:48 AM 9/6/2000 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >Please make sure to use rawio in the tests. Other things, such as >bonnie and dd, give better looking results, but they're not very >related to what happens in practice. I will certainly take a look at it. However, for now, I have been using a number of bonnie processes simultaneously. The box I am building is going to be just a pop3 server. So at any given time, a number of popper processes running scanning through a users mailbox to see how many messages they have seems to be well enough approximated by a number of disk intensive processes like bonnie at once. As for testing, so far so good. Actually, I was quite taken aback by some of the results. It really does seem a lot faster, certainly from the limited testing I have done. In one, test where I blast email at the box as fast as I can from two outside hosts, it took half the time deliver mail to 13,000 user mail boxes as compared to the time it took on the 428 MegaRAID controller in a 3 disk striped config with the same physical drives involved. The other neat thing I have found so far, was that on a 256MB machine, comparing the amr, mlx, da, ad to the vinum drive, the vinum tests gave me the best even distribution of multiple processes blasting on the disk. Running 15 bonnie -s 100 at once, all the drivers except vinum tended to favor the first and second process in terms of performance. vinum gave very uniform results across all the processes which I guess if I saw 20 popper processes start up, all accessing big mail boxes, I would want each to get equal disk access! The only problem I have run into so far is creating a 3 disk RAID5 array. Is this not possible ? It *seems* to take the command OK (raid5 -v /dev/da0e /dev/da1e /dev/da2e), but newfs gives newmail# newfs -v /dev/vinum/vinum0 newfs: /dev/vinum/vinum0: Input/output error on a STABLE box from 2 days ago. Am I better off in the end going with 4 drives in a RAID 10 config instead ? ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 22:28:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [208.164.68.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C7D37B422 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10392; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 19:28:44 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 19:28:44 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Warner Losh Cc: Jim Weeks , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops In-Reply-To: <200009052051.OAA63224@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message Vincent Poy writes: > : Speaking about cards, anyone know if the 3Com 3CCFEM656B 10/100 > : LAN + 56k Combo modem card will work? I know it's cardbus. I just have a > : 770Z sitting here doing nothing with 14gig HDD/320mB RAM since I got a new > > Cardbus means it won't for a little while yet. Oh well... I just thought 3Com and Intel cards were somehow supported.... I'm not in a hurry anyways... Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 23:16:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uosis.mif.vu.lt (uosis.mif.vu.lt [193.219.42.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18E8637B424 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 39299 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Sep 2000 06:16:01 -0000 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:16:01 +0200 From: Rolandas Naujikas To: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to update -STABLE from remote location ? Message-ID: <20000906081601.A39240@uosis.mif.vu.lt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: VU MIF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all I'm administrator of a server with FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE. Before some time I found than it is not possible replace executable and shared libraries when are used for execution ("Text file busy" error message). So how can I update my -STABLE from remote location ? I'm thinking abount alternate disk partitions for /usr, /var and /, so I would be able to update into alternate location, and switch rootdev to updated location. How I can switch to boot from different partition ? P.S. I'm sorry for my language. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 23:26:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ns2.warpnet.ro [194.153.243.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D632E37B423; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16666; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:40:47 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:40:46 +0300 (EEST) From: Adrian Penisoara To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: imp@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: conf/21065: 4.1-STABLE cons25w termcap entry screwed In-Reply-To: <20000906004948.B72273@nagual.pp.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:48:29PM +0300, Adrian Penisoara wrote: > > > Apparently you not log in from the same kernel's console as you report. > > > > Yes. Does that mean that all non 4.1-STABLE machines are left in the > > cold when it comes to log into a 4.1-STABLE system from them ?!? Is > > updating /usr/share/misc/termcap to the version in the -stable tree > > sufficient to make things work between 3.x and -stable machines ? > > It is impossible to fix termcap bugs AND stays compatible in the same > time, since compatible variant IS buggy. There is workaround exists - for > older clients put old termcap copy into ~/.termcap. Fixing old machines will break themselves :-) so we have an infinite loop... Maybe there should be implemented a versioning system for the termcap entries :) (now wouldn't that be cool). > > > This should have been _at least_ documented if not brought into attention > > with a HEADS UP meessage on the appropiate lists... > > Some sort of warning was in the related commit messages. Putting it into > src/UPDATING is good idea too, but my English is not good enough for that. Well, I spotted the UPDATING meister, it's imp (sorry, no complete name); CC'ed to him (hint: the problem described in the PR is manifesting _only_ when connecting from a "older" machine's console to a "new" system). Ady (@freebsd.ady.ro) > > -- > Andrey A. Chernov > > http://ache.pp.ru/ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 5 23:45:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pandora.worldonline.nl (pandora.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAC437B423 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intramail.worldonline.nl. (intramail.worldonline.nl [194.151.129.159]) by pandora.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC93236C22; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:47:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from maikel@localhost) by intramail.worldonline.nl. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id IAA76975; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:44:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from maikel) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:44:00 +0200 From: Maikel Verheijen To: Joseph Scott Cc: Maikel Verheijen , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS Maestro 2E Message-ID: <20000906084400.H69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> References: <20000905145035.M69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> <39B56DB0.44529118@owp.csus.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LNKrWK8T5LDJo+fl" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <39B56DB0.44529118@owp.csus.edu>; from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 03:03:28PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --LNKrWK8T5LDJo+fl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 03:03:28PM -0700, Joseph Scott wrote: > You don't mention which notebook this is for. I've got a Dell > Inspiton 7500 with this sound card in it. I know others have pointed > you to the drivers for this, but that driver doesn't enable the > internal speakers on the 7500. Someone else came up with a patch to > the driver that others have already pointed you to. I put up copies > of the driver and the patch on my site. Sorry, I have a Dell Latitude CP/X. > Driver : > http://www.randomnetworks.com/files/maestro-r4-20000725.tar.gz > Patch for internal speakers on Dell Inspiron 7500 : > http://www.randomnetworks.com/files/mstr2_spk.patch2 Thanx for your effort, but the driver worked without the patch... :) > Joseph Scott > joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu > The Office Of Water Programs - CSU Sacramento Kind regards,=20 Maikel Verheijen. --LNKrWK8T5LDJo+fl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: mI0BpdP4EvP1u5dt6cuDLRX+F8QAxarw iQA/AwUBObXnr6mWNQ7RrPkAEQJJDwCggVAxICvN5MPZZimibJpkYd7va9wAn1kh VZfIyv+/KZq92v9jNPdB+dZd =Am6N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LNKrWK8T5LDJo+fl-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 1:44:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.asdg.ru (ns.asdg.ru [212.164.69.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F5A37B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 01:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alex ([212.164.69.25]) by ns.asdg.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA47498 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:44:50 +0700 (NOVST) (envelope-from alex@asdg.ru) Message-ID: <001501c017e7$73bb1aa0$1945a4d4@asdg.ru> From: "Alex Markov" To: Subject: Cannot make buildworld on i815 mobo... :-( Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:46:49 +0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Fidolook Express 2.000 for MS OE5 Organization: Fidolook Express 2.000 www.fidolook.da.ru Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, All! First of all - excuse my English, i don't use it for many years, so it may looks a little awkward... ;-) Last month i bought new PC, with Asus CUSL2 mobo (i815 chipset). Installing 4.1-RELEASE and compiling of custom kernel went, as usually, without any problem. After that all my attempts to make buildworld fail at line: --------------------------------------------------------------- ===> gnu/usr.bin/as updating targ-cpu.h Fatal trap 1: privileged instruction fault while in kernel mode current process = 73652 (cp) Syncing disks... --------------------------------------------------------------- The /usr/src on my PC mounting through NFS from another server (P-233 at 430TX chipset), where this sources compiled just fine. Before sending PR i wanna understand: is it hardware problem with new (and, maybe, unsupported) Intel chipset, or just some kind of my stupidity? Thanks in advance. WBR, Alex Markov. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 2:11:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A902F37B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 02:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e869BP941134 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:11:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (root@niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id LAA00854 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:11:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from (talon@localhost) by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id LAA09490 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:11:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:11:24 +0200 From: Michel TALON To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fdisk won't work on new hard drives can't get Message-ID: <20000906111124.A9444@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from gcs@andrew.cmu.edu on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 08:07:23PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 08:07:23PM -0400, Gregory C Schohn wrote: > hi - I've recently purchased 2 different 18GB scsi drives (a barracuda & a > cheetah, but the layout of the disks are identical). For the past month, > I've not been able to get partitions laid on them that FreeBSD is willing > to notice correctly (w/ disklabel & fdisk). > > I've tried a lot of different things. Originally I tried writing the > partition information w/ sysinstall - that didn't work, then I tried fdisk > w/ -u (& -i -u) & that didn't work. Each time that I wrote the values out > - the light would flicker on the disk, but the partition table wasn't > changed (presumably some other sector was changed). > > I've upgraded my machine a couple of times (& I'm going to be doing it > once more now) & replaced /dev/MAKEDEV & the affiliated disks (da1 & da2) > - yet I still can't get this to work... > > Here's the output from fdisk on the drives (I had successfully partitioned > them under solaris86 which is why the solaris partitions are there). > fdisk: invalid fdisk partition table found > ******* Working on device /dev/da2 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=2181 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=2181 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) > > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > sysid 130,(Linux swap or Solaris x86) > start 5136, size 5125728 (2502 Meg), flag 0 > beg: cyl 0/ sector 34/ head 81; > end: cyl 311/ sector 18/ head 97 > The data for partition 2 is: > sysid 6,(Primary 'big' DOS (> 32MB)) > start 5128816, size 30414368 (14850 Meg), flag 0 > beg: cyl 311/ sector 19/ head 97; > end: cyl 164/ sector 18/ head 166 > The data for partition 3 is: > The data for partition 4 is: > sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 1, size 35037764 (17108 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 0/ sector 2/ head 0; > > note - I didn't put the 4th partition on - it continues to tell me > that that parition exists - even though solaris (when I ran the installer) > knew of only the first 2. > > Also - when I step through the sysinstall utility & try to make slices > after I lay the partitions, it tells me that the devices aren't > configured. > > It seems like my devices are hosed, but they've been rebuilt. > > when I try running disklabel on one of these disks > disklabel: ioctl DIOCGDINFO: Invalid argument > & device not configured when I try it on the slices. > I have a similar experience, with a 20 Gigs Western Digital Ultra 66 drive. I have installed FreeBSD, Linux and Win98 on it, and have seen a problem with fdisk. Note that it is FreeBSD 4.1-Release, so a recent fdisk. Linux is on first slice, 2 Gigs. FreeBSD is on second slice 2.5 Gigs. I wanted to allocate the rest to Win98. Problem Win98 refused to install on the partition fdisked and newfs_msdos. So i used Dos fdisk to delete the third partition and recreate it, then Dos format /s c: to format it. Then Win98 install went out fine (i had to disable ATA 66 in the BIOS before running Dos programs otherwise nothing worked. I then installed drivers coming with the Abit mobo, and reenabled ATA 66). Rebooting to FreeBSD i discovered that the Dos slice began at cylinder 1024 and ended at last cylinder. There was a 2 Gig hole from the end of FreeBSD slice to the beginning of Dos slice. Why Dos fdisk did that, i don't know. It is not a very verbose program! But more important, while sector numbers were fine, the cylinder indications were completely bogus. They say the slice is beginning cylinder 1023 and ending cylinder 1023. I can see above similar bogus cylinder informations. I have tried to use fdisk -u to restore correct numbers, but to no avail. At best one gets starting cylinder 0, ending cylinder = number of cylinders remaining. So i changed nothing. Since apparently only sector numbers are relevant, this caused no problem. However the problem came when i installed Linux, namely Mandrake 7.1. I have been much impressed by the very nice installer. The Ultra 66 mode was properly recognized and install went out fine and quick. I asked to put lilo on the Linux partition and rebooted to find that F2 did not fire up Linux. Using the Mandrake cdrom in rescue mode and doing mount /dev/hda2 /mnt lilo -r /mnt i discovered the problem. There was a Windows label in lilo.conf and since cylinder numbers were botched, lilo aborted. Erasing it and rerunning lilo installed the boot sector on /dev/hda2 and allowed linux access. Moral, it would be fine to fix the fdisk problems in FreeBSD. Moreover this program is horrendous to use, and the documentation is close to 0. As far as disklabel is concerned, it is of the same vein. One has to compute a lot of entries from what fdisk reports, write an entry in /etc/disktab and run disklabel -r -w before having something reasonable. The label auto does not work, at least on my ata drive. This could be easily automated. Manually it took me two hours to figure out, in order to reuse an old disk. -- Michel TALON To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 2:37: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7A837B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 02:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA28853; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:36:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from simond) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:36:49 +0100 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: Doug White Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with installing 4.1-RELEASE Message-ID: <20000906103649.C27237@irrelevant.org> References: <20000902204907.A5182@irrelevant.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:23:05AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:23:05AM -0700, Doug White wrote: > On Sat, 2 Sep 2000 simond@irrelevant.org wrote: > > > Hiya, is there any reason why "flags 0x1" got added to the atkbd0 line > > somewhere between 4.0 and 4.1? I'm asking as when I was trying to install > > 4.1-RELEASE it wasn't recognising the keyboard, installing with 4.0-RELEASE > > worked, after which I tried cvsuping to 4.1-STABLE which still didn't work. > > I believe this is to facilitate USB keyboards. From the atkbd man page: > > bit 0 (FAIL_IF_NO_KBD) > By default the atkbd driver will install even if a keyboard is > not actually connected to the system. This option prevents the > driver from being installed in this situation. > > If the atkbd driver loads it will become the default keyboard even if a > USB keyboard is present. > > If your keyboard controller is busted then you can try removing the flag. Yeah, that's what I ended up doing, by installing 4.0 and going to 4.1S without the flag, it works, but it doesn't seem ideal to cause the installation CD to hang on some keyboard controllers (the Via Apollo Pro on the Asus A7V in my case). -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 3: 0:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx7.port.ru (mx7.port.ru [194.67.23.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492F537B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 03:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [212.96.98.35] (helo=[212.96.98.35]) by mx7.port.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #3) id 13Wbzw-0000WR-00; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 14:00:05 +0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:00:28 +0400 (MSD) From: Jaroshenko Serge X-Sender: jaroshenko@freebsd.merlin.ru To: Alex Markov Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cannot make buildworld on i815 mobo... :-( In-Reply-To: <001501c017e7$73bb1aa0$1945a4d4@asdg.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On my motherboard, Gigabyte 6OMM7E chip i815E, work just fine! But in my case /usr/src locate on local hard disk. This chipset FreeBSD support (both i815 and i815E - ICH, ICH1, ICH2) very well! May be I say stupidity: Make a try to replace /usr/src on local hard disk .... Sorry for bad english. Serge On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Alex Markov wrote: > Hi, All! > > First of all - excuse my English, i don't use it for > many years, so it may looks a little awkward... ;-) > > Last month i bought new PC, with Asus CUSL2 mobo (i815 chipset). > Installing 4.1-RELEASE and compiling of custom kernel went, as > usually, without any problem. After that all my attempts to make > buildworld fail at line: > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > ===> gnu/usr.bin/as > updating targ-cpu.h > > Fatal trap 1: privileged instruction fault while in kernel mode > > current process = 73652 (cp) > > > Syncing disks... > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > The /usr/src on my PC mounting through NFS from another server > (P-233 at 430TX chipset), where this sources compiled just fine. > > Before sending PR i wanna understand: is it hardware problem with > new (and, maybe, unsupported) Intel chipset, or just some kind of > my stupidity? > > Thanks in advance. > > WBR, Alex Markov. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 3:16:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E0737B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 03:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA52459; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 03:16:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200009061016.DAA52459@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: fdisk won't work on new hard drives can't get In-Reply-To: <20000906111124.A9444@lpthe.jussieu.fr> from Michel TALON at "Sep 6, 2000 11:11:24 am" To: Michel TALON Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 03:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michel TALON wrote: > I have a similar experience, with a 20 Gigs Western Digital Ultra 66 drive. > I have installed FreeBSD, Linux and Win98 on it, and have seen a problem with > fdisk. Note that it is FreeBSD 4.1-Release, so a recent fdisk. There is a subtle bug in fdisk causing it to misalign the end of the first slice which is fixed in -stable, but I don't think that affects you. > Linux is on first slice, 2 Gigs. FreeBSD is on second slice 2.5 Gigs. I wanted > to allocate the rest to Win98. Problem Win98 refused to install on the > partition fdisked and newfs_msdos. So i used Dos fdisk to delete the third > partition and recreate it, then Dos format /s c: to format it. Then Win98 > install went out fine (i had to disable ATA 66 in the BIOS before running Dos > programs otherwise nothing worked. I then installed drivers coming with the > Abit mobo, and reenabled ATA 66). Some fdisk output after the BSD fdisk run and the DOS fdisk run would be helpful as the differences could be seen then. > Rebooting to FreeBSD i discovered that the Dos slice > began at cylinder 1024 and ended at last cylinder. There was a 2 Gig hole from > the end of FreeBSD slice to the beginning of Dos slice. Why Dos fdisk did > that, i don't know. It is not a very verbose program! But more important, > while sector numbers were fine, the cylinder indications were completely > bogus. They say the slice is beginning cylinder 1023 and ending cylinder 1023. > I can see above similar bogus cylinder informations. I have tried to use fdisk > -u to restore correct numbers, but to no avail. At best one gets starting > cylinder 0, ending cylinder = number of cylinders remaining. So i changed > nothing. Since apparently only sector numbers are relevant, this caused no > problem. No. This is the defined way for indicating that a slice starts and ends beyond cylinder 1024. The MBR format does not have enough bits to indicate cylinders above 1024. Period. Thus, it uses the special values you saw as magic values to indicate that only the starting block and length are correct. Which you would have observed if you had read the entire screen. For example: sysid 12,(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT, LBA) start 63, size 2096577 (1023 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; end: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 15 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 2096640, size 17914176 (8747 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 255; end: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 15 Note that the start and size entries are perfectly valid. > However the problem came when i installed Linux, namely Mandrake 7.1. I have > been much impressed by the very nice installer. The Ultra 66 mode was properly > recognized and install went out fine and quick. I asked to put lilo on the > Linux partition and rebooted to find that F2 did not fire up Linux. Using the > Mandrake cdrom in rescue mode and doing > mount /dev/hda2 /mnt > lilo -r /mnt > i discovered the problem. There was a Windows label in lilo.conf and since > cylinder numbers were botched, lilo aborted. Erasing it and rerunning lilo > installed the boot sector on /dev/hda2 and allowed linux access. Try telling lilo to use lba32 and see if that can get it to work. FreeBSD automatically detects if it needs to use LBA when booting, but LILO doesn't do this yet. > Moral, it would be fine to fix the fdisk problems in FreeBSD. Moreover this > program is horrendous to use, and the documentation is close to 0. > As far as disklabel is concerned, it is of the same vein. One has to compute > a lot of entries from what fdisk reports, write an entry in /etc/disktab > and run disklabel -r -w before having something reasonable. The > label auto does not work, at least on my ata drive. This could be easily > automated. Manually it took me two hours to figure out, in order to reuse an > old disk. fdisk is not great, but there is a manpage. disklabel is broken in that it can't create new disklabels on a fresh slice. I find that the easiest way to do this is actually to use sysinstall's label editor, since it does get it right. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 3:25:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0668C37B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 03:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA22206 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:25:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-101.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.101) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma022204; Wed Sep 6 05:25:07 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000906044214.00b81920@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 05:22:42 -0500 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: NO_TCSH issue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmmm... If you build with this option and remove /bin/(t)csh, buildworld will die when /usr/bin/vgrind is called like so: ===> share/doc/papers/kernmalloc touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/papers/kernmalloc; soelim kernmalloc.t) > kernmalloc.ms vgrind -f < /usr/src/share/doc/papers/kernmalloc/appendix.t > appendix.ms vgrind: not found *** Error code 127 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error Tried manually and found > head -1 /usr/bin/vgrind #!/bin/csh -f No problem, just put a bandage on my foot and don't bother the doctor. However, I thought all shell scripts were supposed to be Bourne. This is the only exception I could find. IMO, it makes sense to remove things that are not being built, but if something depends on them, doesn't that violate POLA? Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 3:39:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF0E37B424 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 03:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27CD181AD; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:39:25 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000906000615.03226880@mail.sentex.net> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000905165313.037652c0@marble.sentex.ca> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <20000905115126.A14470@myhakas.matti.ee> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905090105.053a13f0@marble.sentex.ca> <20000905155032.A27690@futuresouth.com> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905165313.037652c0@marble.sentex.ca> <4.2.2.20000906000615.03226880@mail.sentex.net> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:04:57 +0200 To: Mike Tancsa , Greg Lehey From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:29 AM -0400 2000/9/6, Mike Tancsa wrote: > I will certainly take a look at it. However, for now, I have been > using a number of bonnie processes simultaneously. The box I am > building is going to be just a pop3 server. So at any given time, a > number of popper processes running scanning through a users mailbox > to see how many messages they have seems to be well enough > approximated by a number of disk intensive processes like bonnie at once. For simulating the performance of mail-related disk subsystems, so far I have been pretty happy with what I've been doing with postmark. See my postmark benchmarking page at . And now that the SmartRAID V/VI drivers are available for FreeBSD 4.2, I will be repeating my previous vinum/SmartRAID/rawio benchmarks (see ) to see how things have changed. On our POP3 mail systems, we're seeing average message sizes around 70KB, so I will be doing further bonnie++ 1.00b (see ) tests averaging about that, of course using multiple processes in parallel, and making sure that I move at least multiple GB of data per test to try and make sure that we eliminate as much buffer cache effect as we can. I'm also going to be testing Sun Solaris UFS against UFS Logging (both DiskSuite trans meta devices as well as using the "logging" keyword in the mount options) against Veritas VxVM and VxFS, and in single disk, mirrored pairs, striped pairs, mirrored+striped pairs (four disks), and four pure striped disks. > The only problem I have run into so far is creating a 3 disk RAID5 > array. Is this not possible ? While possible (three disks is the minimum number required to make a RAID-5 volume), it wastes 1/3 your disk space, it is very costly in terms of I/O, and generally is not that great of an idea. > Am I better off in the end going with 4 drives in a RAID 10 config instead ? If that is possible, in my experience you will find that it will perform much, much better, and it should be more reliable. Myself, I'd be inclined to throw in a fifth disk as a hot spare, and run the remaining four in RAID 0+1 mode (of course, if at all possible you want to stripe the mirrors and not mirror the stripes, since if you do the former and you lose a disk, then only that submirror is degraded and the stripe is fine, while if you do the latter, then the entire stripe is degraded which then causes the mirror to be degraded too). -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 4:51:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from srcso.globis.ru (globis.ru [212.248.80.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E4337B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 04:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raduga.dyndns.org (raduga.sochi.net [212.248.82.76]) by srcso.globis.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12118 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:08:47 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from igor@raduga.dyndns.org) Received: (from igor@localhost) by raduga.dyndns.org (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e86BpYD02341 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:51:34 +0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:51:34 +0400 From: Igor Roboul To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue Message-ID: <20000906155134.B2108@linux.rainbow> Reply-To: igorr@crosswinds.net Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <4.3.2.20000906044214.00b81920@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000906044214.00b81920@207.227.119.2>; from jeff-ml@mountin.net on Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 05:22:42AM -0500 X-Operating-System: Linux linux.rainbow 2.2.14-plus-SMP X-Best-Window-Manager: Window Maker (www.windowmaker.org) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 05:22:42AM -0500, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > However, I thought all shell scripts were supposed to be Bourne. This is Why? Most of my personal scripts are for csh. Just because I like it. And csh is default shell for root. And having csh is RIGHT THING in BSD. -- Igor Roboul, Unix System Administrator & Programmer @ sanatorium "Raduga", Sochi, Russia http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=304744 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 5: 8:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C94737B424 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13Wdzw-0006iv-00; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 14:08:12 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:08:12 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue Message-ID: <20000906140812.A25738@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <4.3.2.20000906044214.00b81920@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000906044214.00b81920@207.227.119.2>; from jeff-ml@mountin.net on Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 05:22:42AM -0500 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed 2000-09-06 (05:22), Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > If you build with this option and remove /bin/(t)csh, buildworld will die > when /usr/bin/vgrind is called like so: Well, this is obvious. You can't remove /bin/sh either. > However, I thought all shell scripts were supposed to be Bourne. This is > the only exception I could find. IMO, it makes sense to remove things that > are not being built, but if something depends on them, doesn't that violate > POLA? "POLA" entails having /bin/csh that is csh-compatible. NO_TCSH is for people who don't want to build and install new versions of csh. It doesn't mean that you can run the system without it, and definitely doesn't mean that you can remove it and expect things to build. NOPERL is another example. Try build your kernel without /usr/bin/perl. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 5:34: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f297.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1DB37B42C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:34:01 -0700 Received: from 168.88.19.2 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 12:34:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [168.88.19.2] From: "Alan Bindemann" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 08:34:01 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2000 12:34:01.0518 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC54CCE0:01C017FE] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to get XFree86 4.0.1 working on a box with an Intel i810 video chipset using FreeBSD 4.1 Release 0 (Using the ISO image). I know I need to rebuild my kernel with the 'device agp' line added to the config file. (This hasn't helped, startx still bombs). My question is this: Do I need to use 4.1-STABLE source code in the kernel build? Thanks Much, Alan Bindemann _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 5:42:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (ppp194.max-01.intercom.com [198.143.0.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F138C37B446 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA27054; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:01:10 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA64027; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:39:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200009061239.IAA64027@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:39:46 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Courtney Thomas , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000905193014.033fd820@mail.sentex.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Buy.com has spammed me twice in the recent months -- out of the blue, spamvertising some of their UK specials (although I live in US). Apparently, they bought my address in some giant spam-list... One should, probably, take his/her money elsewhere... -mi On 5 Sep, Mike Tancsa wrote: = At 04:46 PM 9/5/2000 -0400, Courtney Thomas wrote: = >Greetings ! = > = >I appreciate being in your debt for knowing...... = > = >1-where'd you get the controllers ? = = = http://www.us.buy.com/retail/prod.... = for $22 USD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 5:44:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lafontaine.cybercable.fr (lafontaine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EDF337B42C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7517513 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2000 12:44:14 -0000 Received: from r121m50.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO qualys.com) ([195.132.121.50]) (envelope-sender ) by lafontaine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Sep 2000 12:44:14 -0000 Message-ID: <39B63CAB.5B4328FB@qualys.com> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 14:46:35 +0200 From: Maxime Henrion X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Bindemann , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Did you done the MAKEDEV agpgart ? MAKEDEV is a shell script in /dev directory that will make the useful /dev files (like /dev/agpgart). You don't need to use -STABLE as far as I know. Maxime Henrion Alan Bindemann wrote: > I am trying to get XFree86 4.0.1 working on a box with an Intel i810 video > chipset using FreeBSD 4.1 Release 0 (Using the ISO image). I know I need to > rebuild my kernel with the 'device agp' line added to the config file. (This > hasn't helped, startx still bombs). > > My question is this: Do I need to use 4.1-STABLE source code in the kernel > build? > > Thanks Much, > Alan Bindemann > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 5:52:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP3.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CC637B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu (UNIX11.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.15.15]) by smtp3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA05239 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:52:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:52:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregory C Schohn To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fdisk won't work on new hard drives can't get Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to partition the disks with ideally a small dos partition that I may need for some other OS down the road and a large FreeBSD one. However, I haven't had ANY success with fdisk or disklabel. I'm using an fdisk that was last edited August 27th. I have altogether 4 scsi disks connected to the machine right now. Its only the 18GB ones that are messed up (I have 2 4GB ones that look & act fine). I trussed the fdisk runs on each, & its making the same calls on each, so all that I can figure is that the devices aren't doing the correct consistent things... Oh, I tried using fdisk -I & here's what I got > fdisk -I /dev/da1 ******* Working on device /dev/da1 ******* fdisk: invalid fdisk partition table found :( thanks alot, Greg On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > Gregory C Schohn wrote: > > hi - I've recently purchased 2 different 18GB scsi drives (a barracuda & a > > cheetah, but the layout of the disks are identical). For the past month, > > I've not been able to get partitions laid on them that FreeBSD is willing > > to notice correctly (w/ disklabel & fdisk). > > First of all, make sure you have the latest fdisk. There were some bugs > in it that have since been fixed. Secondly, what are you trying to > accomplish exactly? If you are trying to blow away the existing mbr > and start from scratch, try 'fdisk -I '. > > -- > > John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 6:18:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f243.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11BF37B42C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:18:12 -0700 Received: from 168.88.19.2 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 13:18:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [168.88.19.2] From: "Alan Bindemann" To: mux@qualys.com, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 09:18:12 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2000 13:18:12.0850 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8A5F520:01C01804] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, /dev/agpgart exists. I also upgraded my ports collection to include /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/patches/patch-i810. The contents of XFree86.0.log are shown below: XFree86 Version 4.0.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400) Release Date: 1 July 2000 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386 [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed Sep 6 09:11:52 2000 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown. (==) ServerLayout "Simple Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "KDS" (**) | |-->Device "i810" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1" (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (WW) Option "XkbCompat" requires an string value (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc101" (**) XKB: model: "pc101" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) XKB: layout: "us" (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (WW) checkDevMem: failed to open /dev/mem (Operation not permitted) linear framebuffer access unavailable (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 Fatal server error: xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log". I can send/post additional info if it will help. Thanks for your help, Alan Bindemann >Hi, > >Did you done the MAKEDEV agpgart ? MAKEDEV is a shell script in /dev >directory >that will make the useful /dev files (like /dev/agpgart). >You don't need to use -STABLE as far as I know. > >Maxime Henrion > >Alan Bindemann wrote: > > > I am trying to get XFree86 4.0.1 working on a box with an Intel i810 >video > > chipset using FreeBSD 4.1 Release 0 (Using the ISO image). I know I >need to > > rebuild my kernel with the 'device agp' line added to the config file. >(This > > hasn't helped, startx still bombs). > > > > My question is this: Do I need to use 4.1-STABLE source code in the >kernel > > build? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 7: 7:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rjk191.rh.psu.edu (RJK191.rh.psu.edu [128.118.207.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4FD37B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ray@localhost) by rjk191.rh.psu.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e86E7l702293 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:07:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ray) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:07:47 -0400 From: Ray Kohler To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue Message-ID: <20000906100747.A2116@rjk191.rh.psu.edu> Reply-To: rjk191@psu.edu References: <4.3.2.20000906044214.00b81920@207.227.119.2> <20000906155134.B2108@linux.rainbow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000906155134.B2108@linux.rainbow>; from igor@raduga.dyndns.org on Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 03:51:34PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 03:51:34PM +0400, Igor Roboul wrote: > On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 05:22:42AM -0500, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > > However, I thought all shell scripts were supposed to be Bourne. This is > Why? Most of my personal scripts are for csh. Just because I like it. > And csh is default shell for root. And having csh is RIGHT THING in BSD. I think the issue here is not whether csh is right, but that setting a legitimate, documented option and taking it to its logical conclusion breaks world. I also seem to remember that when tcsh was MFC'd, someone checked out the tree for any leftover csh scripts and said it was clean. I'd say vfgrind ought to be rewritten in Bourne, just to keep everything consistant. (Of course, since the current trend is to rewrite all our scripts in C anyway, this may soon become moot. -- Ray Kohler FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve Computers will not be perfected until they can compute how much more than the estimate the job will cost. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 7:15:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2093537B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13Wfyb-00079C-00; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 16:14:57 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:14:57 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: rjk191@psu.edu Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue Message-ID: <20000906161457.A27426@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <4.3.2.20000906044214.00b81920@207.227.119.2> <20000906155134.B2108@linux.rainbow> <20000906100747.A2116@rjk191.rh.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000906100747.A2116@rjk191.rh.psu.edu>; from ray@rjk191.rh.psu.edu on Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 10:07:47AM -0400 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed 2000-09-06 (10:07), Ray Kohler wrote: > I think the issue here is not whether csh is right, but that setting > a legitimate, documented option and taking it to its logical > conclusion breaks world. The only logical conclusion of NO_TCSH is that you /bin/csh will not be overwritten. Anything beyond that is not logical. > I also seem to remember that when tcsh was > MFC'd, someone checked out the tree for any leftover csh scripts and > said it was clean. tcsh is fully csh-compatible. In fact, our csh was an early version of tcsh. > (Of course, since the current > trend is to rewrite all our scripts in C anyway, this may soon > become moot. The only scripts I've noted being rewritten recently are killall and which, both with good reason. There are still plenty of scripts left on the system, and I doubt anyone particularly wants to rewrite them in C. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 7:27:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1408237B424 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e868tx905271; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:55:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:55:59 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Darryl Okahata Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: affordable wireless Message-ID: <20000906095559.A5238@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200009051612.JAA25260@mina.soco.agilent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200009051612.JAA25260@mina.soco.agilent.com>; from darrylo@soco.agilent.com on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:12:01AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:12:01AM -0700, Darryl Okahata wrote: > Just to let everyone know: I should be getting a TechWorks > (Buffalo) AirStation in the next couple of days, and I'll be adding it > to my FreeBSD Wireless documentation. What FreeBSD Wireless documentation? Fancy wandering over to the doc project (doc@freebsd.org) to talk about this in more detail, and to see what we can do to get this on to the website (or in the Handbook)? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 7:27:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from groenquist.com (cx636606-b.santab1.ca.home.com [24.15.127.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0317837B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by groenquist.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e86ERca02661; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:27:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@groenquist.com) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Groener To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: "profiling timer expired" on new kernel builds in 4.1-R and 4.1-S In-Reply-To: <20000906100747.A2116@rjk191.rh.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have recently begun to receive "profiling timer expired" errors at boot time (specifically at /etc/rc initialization) on any new kernel I build. This includes stock GENERIC kernel builds. I have synced up the OS with very recent (within 24 hours) builworld's and installworld's apparently without problems. However, the only way to boot is with /kernel.GENERIC, since all of my kernel compiles report the above profiling errors. I searched the archives for errors of this type but did not find anything relevant. To the best of my knowledge, this behavior began in mid-August, and I have wrestled with it ever since (close to 10 reinstalls to try different ideas). My questions: Could this be hardware related? No changes recently but still who knows?... If I build a new GENERIC kernel after a fresh install of 4.1-R, the kernel works. Only after syncing up /usr/src with cvsup to -stable do I incur the wrath of profiling errors. Should I not sync up anymore? Thanks in advance, -matt ------------ Matt Groener qad, inc. matt@groenquist.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 8:19:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.runapplications.com (www.runapplications.com [196.3.153.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4409937B424 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.runapplications.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.runapplications.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A6F17876C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:17:05 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Smith Reply-To: cyber@colis.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cant make buildkernel Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:14:34 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00090510170203.60663@www.runapplications.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for all the assistance, make buildkernel now works !!! On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Ryan T. Dean wrote: > On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > > > In message <00090411012300.60663@www.runapplications.com> Gary Smith writes: > > : I have been tracking stable for a while without incident but since the last 2 > > : weeks, after a cvsup and a make buildworld, make buildkernel fails with " make: > > : dont know how to make /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c. Stop " > > : > > : Any ideas as to why this happens ? my last cvsup was yesterday. > > > > A while ago this changed from a link to real file. Maybe that's > > biting you? See UPDATING for details. > > It was changed from a link to a real file, and it is in UPDATING. Soft > updates went to the standard 2 clause BSD license, and thus the > change. To fix it, > > cd /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs > rm softdep.h ffs_softdep.c > > and then cvsup again. Cheers! > > -Ryan T. Dean > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 9: 8:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.6.9.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757B537B422; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andom1.an.hp.com (andom1.an.hp.com [15.4.128.104]) by msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE3A297; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:08:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by andom1.an.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7350F1941; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id JAA18715; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009061608.JAA18715@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: affordable wireless Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 06 Sep 2000 09:55:59 BST." <20000906095559.A5238@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 09:08:40 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:12:01AM -0700, Darryl Okahata wrote: > > Just to let everyone know: I should be getting a TechWorks > > (Buffalo) AirStation in the next couple of days, and I'll be adding it > > to my FreeBSD Wireless documentation. > > What FreeBSD Wireless documentation? Fancy wandering over to the doc > project (doc@freebsd.org) to talk about this in more detail, and to see > what we can do to get this on to the website (or in the Handbook)? It's an unofficial document, which was largely posted to freebsd-mobile. You can get a copy from: ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/darrylo/freebsd/wavelan Although it's a "work-in-progress", it's currently suffering from bit-rot, having not been updated in a month or two. If I ever finished it, I was planning on submitting it to daemonnews. It's currently plain text; I thought about converting it to docbook, but I don't know if I have the time. Comments? -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 9:21:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D65E37B422; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13Whww-0004Pl-00 ; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 12:21:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:21:22 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20000906122122.A16295@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In light of RSA being put into the public domain a little early, can we have full, real, RSA in -stable soon ? :) http://www.rsasecurity.com/news/pr/000906-1.html P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 10: 1:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489EB37B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e86H1H067060; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:01:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000906125441.03667100@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 12:56:04 -0400 To: Greg Lehey From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000906000615.03226880@mail.sentex.net> References: <20000906084835.B21113@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905165313.037652c0@marble.sentex.ca> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000903213318.074039f0@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <20000905115126.A14470@myhakas.matti.ee> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905090105.053a13f0@marble.sentex.ca> <20000905155032.A27690@futuresouth.com> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905165313.037652c0@marble.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:29 AM 9/6/00 -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: >The only problem I have run into so far is creating a 3 disk RAID5 >array. Is this not possible ? OK, I see where I went wrong. I missed the part about needing to init a RAID5 array. I say my RTFMs 30times! ;-) ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 10: 3:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AEC37B43F for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA1AE8B4 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:03:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e86H3E539541; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:03:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14774.30930.120103.685216@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:03:14 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: running lyris for linux makes many zombies X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 11) "Carlsbad Caverns" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On a FreeBSD 4.1-S cvsup'd yesterday, I'm running Lyris 4.0 for linux (with the security patches installed). I had been running this on a RedHat 6.0 system quite well, but I'd rather rid myself of that system ;-) Anyhow, I'm getting *lots* of zombie processes being left around after processing a few messages, and the number keeps growing. This did not happen on the "real" linux system. Is there some knob I can turn on in the linux compatibility system to get the zombies to be reaped properly? I have COMPAT_LINUX defined in my kernel so the linux compat is statically linked into the kernel. Thanks. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 10:16:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB8037B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e86HGdV53075; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:16:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Gregory C Schohn Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fdisk won't work on new hard drives can't get In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Gregory C Schohn wrote: > I am trying to partition the disks with ideally a small dos partition > that I may need for some other OS down the road and a large FreeBSD one. > However, I haven't had ANY success with fdisk or disklabel. > > I'm using an fdisk that was last edited August 27th. I have altogether 4 > scsi disks connected to the machine right now. Its only the 18GB ones > that are messed up (I have 2 4GB ones that look & act fine). I trussed > the fdisk runs on each, & its making the same calls on each, so all that I > can figure is that the devices aren't doing the correct consistent > things... > > Oh, I tried using fdisk -I & here's what I got > > fdisk -I /dev/da1 > ******* Working on device /dev/da1 ******* > fdisk: invalid fdisk partition table found That's OK; -I just installed a new partition table with slice 1 as an entire FreeBSD slice. Run 'fdisk da1' and see that a new freebsd slice is there. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 10:23:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EB137B422; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e86HNlF70906; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:23:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Rolandas Naujikas Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to update -STABLE from remote location ? In-Reply-To: <20000906081601.A39240@uosis.mif.vu.lt> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Rolandas Naujikas wrote: > I'm administrator of a server with FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE. > Before some time I found than it is not possible replace executable > and shared libraries when are used for execution ("Text file busy" error > message). So how can I update my -STABLE from remote location ? You shouldn't, unless you have a serial console, and even then it's quite dangerous. When doing installworld you should shutdown to single-user mode to prevent any conflicts or damage. > I'm thinking abount alternate disk partitions for /usr, /var and /, so I > would be able to update into alternate location, and switch rootdev to > updated location. How I can switch to boot from different partition ? Playing with boot options from remote really gives me the willies. Also upgrading production systems is a good way to screw things up. > P.S. I'm sorry for my language. You weren't swearing, if that's what you were apologizing for. :) Your English is fine -- be proud. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 10:26:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C11B37B42C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e86HPuG79619; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:25:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: simond@irrelevant.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with installing 4.1-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <20000906103649.C27237@irrelevant.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 simond@irrelevant.org wrote: > > If the atkbd driver loads it will become the default keyboard even if a > > USB keyboard is present. > > > > If your keyboard controller is busted then you can try removing the flag. > > Yeah, that's what I ended up doing, by installing 4.0 and going to 4.1S > without the flag, it works, but it doesn't seem ideal to cause the installation > CD to hang on some keyboard controllers (the Via Apollo Pro on the Asus A7V > in my case). Odd, sounds like a bug in either the mobo or the driver. Try booting with -v and see if an error shows up during the atkbdc probe. Also make sure 'legacy usb keyboard' mode is disabled in the bios setup. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 10:27:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1977837B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e86HRem85050; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:27:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Alex Markov Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cannot make buildworld on i815 mobo... :-( In-Reply-To: <001501c017e7$73bb1aa0$1945a4d4@asdg.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Alex Markov wrote: > > Fatal trap 1: privileged instruction fault while in kernel mode > > current process = 73652 (cp) > By the way, this is completely useless. NEVER EVER leave out information on a kernel trap or panic. The info that looks like junk to you is vitally important to us developers. Please repost your report and don't skip anything. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 10:33:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEF437B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e86HXJQ99414; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:33:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Alan Bindemann Cc: mux@qualys.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Alan Bindemann wrote: > Yes, /dev/agpgart exists. I also upgraded my ports collection to include > /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/patches/patch-i810. The contents of XFree86.0.log > are shown below: Hm ... > XFree86 Version 4.0.1 / X Window System Don't expect to get lots of help for this; XFree86 4 is very, very beta and has lots of nasty bugs. Use At Your Own Risk and Your Mileage May Vary. I suggest using 3.3.6 for production use. > (WW) checkDevMem: failed to open /dev/mem (Operation not permitted) > linear framebuffer access unavailable > > Fatal server error: > xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O I would also suggest running X as root so it can access these required devices. That or make the X server suid root. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 10:34:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D12937B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e86HYIW03405; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:34:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: running lyris for linux makes many zombies In-Reply-To: <14774.30930.120103.685216@onceler.kciLink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > On a FreeBSD 4.1-S cvsup'd yesterday, I'm running Lyris 4.0 for linux > (with the security patches installed). I had been running this on a > RedHat 6.0 system quite well, but I'd rather rid myself of that system > ;-) > > Anyhow, I'm getting *lots* of zombie processes being left around after > processing a few messages, and the number keeps growing. This did not > happen on the "real" linux system. This is a bug in Lyris. Annoy them. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 10:36:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Astrovan.cstone.net (astrovan.cstone.net [209.145.64.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0A837B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cstone.net ([209.145.93.143]) by Astrovan.cstone.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59789U13500L1350S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:28:27 -0400 Message-ID: <39B680AB.2EC75D1A@cstone.net> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 13:36:43 -0400 From: Sean Michael Whipkey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Apache after 3.4 -> 4.1 upgrade Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I iupgraded to FreeBSD 4.1 from 3.4 and it worked beautifully - except for a couple of little things. It took me forever to get it to boot the network on startup. I eventually ended up having to add the network setup to /etc/defaults/rc.conf to get it to work. Odd. Also, now when I try to start/test Apache, I get this: : seanmike@torg; sudo /usr/local/apache_1.3.12/bin/apachectl configtest Syntax error on line 242 of /usr/local/apache_1.3.12/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/local/apache_1.3.12/libexec/libperl.so into server: /usr/lib/libperl.so.3: Undefined symbol "setresuid" Any ideas? SeanMike -- SeanMike Whipkey - Damnit. Where's my witty repartee? "Ow! Ow! Ow! I had to go after mutants, didn't I? I couldn't just attack Napster, nooooo. I had to attack freaks that know kung fu." - http://ter.air0day.com/xmen.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 10:51: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862A137B423; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA31097; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:50:16 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda31095; Wed Sep 6 10:50:01 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA64901; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdC64899; Wed Sep 6 10:49:37 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) id e86HnaA75611; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009061749.e86HnaA75611@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdJ75603; Wed Sep 6 10:48:58 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: Doug White Cc: Rolandas Naujikas , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to update -STABLE from remote location ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Sep 2000 10:23:47 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 10:48:58 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Doug White writes: > On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Rolandas Naujikas wrote: > > > I'm administrator of a server with FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE. > > Before some time I found than it is not possible replace executable > > and shared libraries when are used for execution ("Text file busy" error > > message). So how can I update my -STABLE from remote location ? > > You shouldn't, unless you have a serial console, and even then it's > quite dangerous. When doing installworld you should shutdown to > single-user mode to prevent any conflicts or damage. My team does this with remote Sun systems attached to a serial console via a FreeBSD system running conserver, as it saves a helijet trip to the mainland. We have plans to upgrade the FreeBSD console server remotely. Currently we've only upgraded our less critical FreeBSD systems remotely, a trip by elevator away. With careful planning it can be done. > > > I'm thinking abount alternate disk partitions for /usr, /var and /, so I > > would be able to update into alternate location, and switch rootdev to > > updated location. How I can switch to boot from different partition ? > > Playing with boot options from remote really gives me the willies. Also > upgrading production systems is a good way to screw things up. I've done this with Solaris, Tru64-UNIX, and FreeBSD. It's an idea I brought over from the MVS (IBM Mainframe) world, where at our shop we call it the FOOBAR Roll. The steps we take (I'll miss some minor steps for brevity) are, 1. Copy the system to a disk mounted as /foobar. 2. Modify /foobar/etc/fstab to reflect new device names for /, /usr, etc. Also modify boot parameters. 3. chroot /foobar /bin/sh 4. cd /usr/src 5. make buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel, boot, installworld. So far so good. There is no guarantee that this will work as FreeBSD evolves, but it works for now and it saves a 30 minute helicopter trip to Vancouver. If the system in Vancouver is hosed as a result of this, we can live without it for a short while until we can schedule a trip. > > > P.S. I'm sorry for my language. > > You weren't swearing, if that's what you were apologizing for. :) Your > English is fine -- be proud. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 10:57:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E9A37B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA31111; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:57:16 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda31109; Wed Sep 6 10:57:04 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA64942; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpde64938; Wed Sep 6 10:56:37 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) id e86Huaa75647; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009061756.e86Huaa75647@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdP75641; Wed Sep 6 10:55:39 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: running lyris for linux makes many zombies In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Sep 2000 13:03:14 EDT." <14774.30930.120103.685216@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 10:55:39 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <14774.30930.120103.685216@onceler.kciLink.com>, Vivek Khera writes: > On a FreeBSD 4.1-S cvsup'd yesterday, I'm running Lyris 4.0 for linux > (with the security patches installed). I had been running this on a > RedHat 6.0 system quite well, but I'd rather rid myself of that system > ;-) > > Anyhow, I'm getting *lots* of zombie processes being left around after > processing a few messages, and the number keeps growing. This did not > happen on the "real" linux system. > > Is there some knob I can turn on in the linux compatibility system to > get the zombies to be reaped properly? I have COMPAT_LINUX defined in > my kernel so the linux compat is statically linked into the kernel. Lyris is failing to issue a wait(2) call to obtain the exit status of children that have terminated. The kernel will keep a a process table entry for the terminated child until the exit status has been fetched by its parent. My guess the reason Linux doesn't have any zombies is that the Linux init(8) is getting involved to fetch the status and clean up after the application. This is not standard UNIX. What FreeBSD is doing, e.g. nothing as it's an application issue, is the correct thing to do. IIRC, there are some differences between SYSV and BSD in this regard, though I cannot remember the details and I don't have Stevens' book here to reference. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 11: 3:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D4937B43E for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e86I2nV16529; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:02:49 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Vivek Khera , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: running lyris for linux makes many zombies Message-ID: <20000906110249.H18862@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <14774.30930.120103.685216@onceler.kciLink.com> <200009061756.e86Huaa75647@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200009061756.e86Huaa75647@cwsys.cwsent.com>; from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca on Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 10:55:39AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group [000906 10:57] wrote: > In message <14774.30930.120103.685216@onceler.kciLink.com>, Vivek Khera > writes: > > On a FreeBSD 4.1-S cvsup'd yesterday, I'm running Lyris 4.0 for linux > > (with the security patches installed). I had been running this on a > > RedHat 6.0 system quite well, but I'd rather rid myself of that system > > ;-) > > > > Anyhow, I'm getting *lots* of zombie processes being left around after > > processing a few messages, and the number keeps growing. This did not > > happen on the "real" linux system. > > > > Is there some knob I can turn on in the linux compatibility system to > > get the zombies to be reaped properly? I have COMPAT_LINUX defined in > > my kernel so the linux compat is statically linked into the kernel. > > Lyris is failing to issue a wait(2) call to obtain the exit status of > children that have terminated. The kernel will keep a a process table > entry for the terminated child until the exit status has been fetched > by its parent. > > My guess the reason Linux doesn't have any zombies is that the Linux > init(8) is getting involved to fetch the status and clean up after the > application. This is not standard UNIX. What FreeBSD is doing, e.g. > nothing as it's an application issue, is the correct thing to do. > > IIRC, there are some differences between SYSV and BSD in this regard, > though I cannot remember the details and I don't have Stevens' book > here to reference. This is true, however the Linux activator should be doing the right thing and emulating linux's perhaps broken behavior. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 11:23:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f123.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253AE37B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:23:53 -0700 Received: from 168.88.19.2 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:23:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [168.88.19.2] From: "Alan Bindemann" To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: mux@qualys.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 14:23:53 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2000 18:23:53.0067 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C44FBB0:01C0182F] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From: Doug White >Don't expect to get lots of help for this; XFree86 4 is very, very beta >and has lots of nasty bugs. [snip] > >I suggest using 3.3.6 for production use. I was under the impression that the i810 chipset was not supported under 3.3.6. Am I mistaken? If so, do I need to rebuild 3.3.6 with some patches for i810 support? > > Fatal server error: > > xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O > >I would also suggest running X as root so it can access these required >devices. That or make the X server suid root. I was running as root when I got the Fatal server error. Thanks for your help. Alan Bindemann _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 11:30:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5275B37B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kernighan.demon.co.uk ([194.222.151.76] helo=homebrew.kernighan.demon.co.uk) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13Wjxz-000815-0U; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:30:35 +0100 Received: from localhost (njh@localhost) by homebrew.kernighan.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00851; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:30:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from njh@kernighan.demon.co.uk) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:30:04 +0100 (BST) From: Neil Hoggarth To: Matt Groener Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "profiling timer expired" on new kernel builds in 4.1-R and 4.1-S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Matt Groener wrote: > I have recently begun to receive "profiling timer expired" errors at boot > time (specifically at /etc/rc initialization) on any new kernel I > build. Data point: I've also seen this, with a 4-STABLE source tree cvsuped on 23rd August. The affected machine is a AMD K6-2/333 based desktop system. I'd done a binary upgrade from 3.4-RELEASE to 4.1-RELEASE and then cvsupped and compiled STABLE. When things then went horribly wrong I assumed that I'd messed something up during the upgrade, blew everything away, and went for a fresh install of 4.1-RELEASE. I'm running this okay, with a GENERIC kernel, and haven't had a chance to try building a custom kernel or sync up to STABLE again yet. I run 4-STABLE built from the *same* 23rd August source tree on a Sony Vaio 505SN (with a 400MHz Mobile Pentium II) and I haven't seen a problem there. Could the problem be something perculier to the K6? What sort of hardware are you running, Matt? Regards, Neil Hoggarth. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 11:34:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D12037B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7502EE881 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:34:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e86IYn040163; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:34:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14774.36425.131176.125597@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:34:49 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: running lyris for linux makes many zombies In-Reply-To: References: <14774.30930.120103.685216@onceler.kciLink.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 11) "Carlsbad Caverns" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "DW" == Doug White writes: DW> On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: >> Anyhow, I'm getting *lots* of zombie processes being left around after >> processing a few messages, and the number keeps growing. This did not >> happen on the "real" linux system. DW> This is a bug in Lyris. Annoy them. Any more specific evidence? Are they not calling wait() on the children? I had this problem of zombies on the linux box with an earlier beta of lyris 4.0, but the production release of lyris was not exhibiting this behavior. I do believe they are properly reaping processes... but I have to run ktrace on it to see, I suppose. Or do you already have such evidence that they're not calling wait() like they should? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 11:55:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BACDA37B424 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF5AE881 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e86Itmx40346; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:55:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14774.37683.981012.4555@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:55:47 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: running lyris for linux makes many zombies In-Reply-To: <200009061756.e86Huaa75647@cwsys.cwsent.com> References: <14774.30930.120103.685216@onceler.kciLink.com> <200009061756.e86Huaa75647@cwsys.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 11) "Carlsbad Caverns" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "CS" == Cy Schubert <- ITSD Open Systems Group > writes: CS> In message <14774.30930.120103.685216@onceler.kciLink.com>, Vivek Khera CS> writes: >> Anyhow, I'm getting *lots* of zombie processes being left around after >> processing a few messages, and the number keeps growing. This did not >> happen on the "real" linux system. CS> Lyris is failing to issue a wait(2) call to obtain the exit status of CS> children that have terminated. The kernel will keep a a process table CS> entry for the terminated child until the exit status has been fetched CS> by its parent. Lyris seems to run using linux threads, not forked processes. Is it still necessary to wait() on threads? I did a ktrace on lyris, but see no evidence of any calls to fork(2) or wait(2). What would I look for to see evidence that it is indeed using threads as I've been led to believe? The lyris 4.0 betas exhibited the zombie problem on linux itself, as well, but the 4.0 release does not. Any clues as to how to track down what really is failing in lyris so I can get them to fix it properly, rather than just making conjectures on what might be wrong with it? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 11:56:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gifw.genroco.com (genroco.com [205.254.195.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B000437B43F for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gi2.genroco.com (gi2.genroco.com [192.133.120.3]) by gifw.genroco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18593; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:56:12 -0500 Received: from scot.genroco.com (scot.genroco.com [192.133.120.125]) by gi2.genroco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA22375; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:56:12 -0500 Message-ID: <005401c01834$20800240$7d7885c0@genroco.com> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Sean Michael Whipkey" , References: <39B680AB.2EC75D1A@cstone.net> Subject: Re: Apache after 3.4 -> 4.1 upgrade Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:56:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Sean Michael Whipkey" > I iupgraded to FreeBSD 4.1 from 3.4 and it worked beautifully - except > for a couple of little things. > > It took me forever to get it to boot the network on startup. I > eventually ended up having to add the network setup to > /etc/defaults/rc.conf to get it to work. Odd. > You need to put these into /etc/rc.conf. Most likely, you missed the step to run mergemaster before rebooting the system, and that is why it couldn't read your /etc/rc.conf file to set up the network. Run mergemaster, and make sure the rc.* files gets installed. > Also, now when I try to start/test Apache, I get this: > > : seanmike@torg; sudo /usr/local/apache_1.3.12/bin/apachectl configtest > Syntax error on line 242 of /usr/local/apache_1.3.12/conf/httpd.conf: > Cannot load /usr/local/apache_1.3.12/libexec/libperl.so into server: > /usr/lib/libperl.so.3: Undefined symbol "setresuid" > > Any ideas? > You may need to either re-compile the apache server or install the COMPAT3X libraries. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 12:59:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from eizel.com (vs-01.usbwell.com [208.205.224.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4FE37B424 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gcs@localhost) by eizel.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA17771; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:38:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:38:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gregory C. Schohn" To: John Baldwin Cc: Gregory C Schohn , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fdisk won't work on new hard drives can't get In-Reply-To: <200009060012.RAA38525@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to partition the disks with ideally a small dos partition that I may need for some other OS down the road and a large FreeBSD one. However, I haven't had ANY success with fdisk or disklabel. I'm using an fdisk that was last edited August 27th. I have altogether 4 scsi disks connected to the machine right now. Its only the 18GB ones that are messed up (I have 2 4GB ones that look & act fine). I trussed the fdisk runs on each, & its making the same calls on each, so all that I can figure is that the devices aren't doing the correct consistent things... Oh, I tried using fdisk -I & here's what I got > fdisk -I /dev/da1 ******* Working on device /dev/da1 ******* fdisk: invalid fdisk partition table found :( thanks alot, Greg On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > Gregory C Schohn wrote: > > hi - I've recently purchased 2 different 18GB scsi drives (a barracuda & a > > cheetah, but the layout of the disks are identical). For the past month, > > I've not been able to get partitions laid on them that FreeBSD is willing > > to notice correctly (w/ disklabel & fdisk). > > First of all, make sure you have the latest fdisk. There were some bugs > in it that have since been fixed. Secondly, what are you trying to > accomplish exactly? If you are trying to blow away the existing mbr > and start from scratch, try 'fdisk -I '. > > -- > > John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 12:59:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from eizel.com (vs-01.usbwell.com [208.205.224.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F163D37B42C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gcs@localhost) by eizel.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05643 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:38:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:38:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gregory C. Schohn" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fdisk won't work on new hard drives can't get Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi - I've recently purchased 2 different 18GB scsi drives (a barracuda & a cheetah, but the layout of the disks are identical). For the past month, I've not been able to get partitions laid on them that FreeBSD is willing to notice correctly (w/ disklabel & fdisk). I've tried a lot of different things. Originally I tried writing the partition information w/ sysinstall - that didn't work, then I tried fdisk w/ -u (& -i -u) & that didn't work. Each time that I wrote the values out - the light would flicker on the disk, but the partition table wasn't changed (presumably some other sector was changed). I've upgraded my machine a couple of times (& I'm going to be doing it once more now) & replaced /dev/MAKEDEV & the affiliated disks (da1 & da2) - yet I still can't get this to work... Here's the output from fdisk on the drives (I had successfully partitioned them under solaris86 which is why the solaris partitions are there). fdisk: invalid fdisk partition table found ******* Working on device /dev/da2 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=2181 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=2181 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 130,(Linux swap or Solaris x86) start 5136, size 5125728 (2502 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 34/ head 81; end: cyl 311/ sector 18/ head 97 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 6,(Primary 'big' DOS (> 32MB)) start 5128816, size 30414368 (14850 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 311/ sector 19/ head 97; end: cyl 164/ sector 18/ head 166 The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 1, size 35037764 (17108 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ sector 2/ head 0; note - I didn't put the 4th partition on - it continues to tell me that that parition exists - even though solaris (when I ran the installer) knew of only the first 2. Also - when I step through the sysinstall utility & try to make slices after I lay the partitions, it tells me that the devices aren't configured. It seems like my devices are hosed, but they've been rebuilt. when I try running disklabel on one of these disks disklabel: ioctl DIOCGDINFO: Invalid argument & device not configured when I try it on the slices. If anybody has any idea how I can fix this - please let me know - I've been searching the mailing lists & web for a LONG time. Also - please be sure to reply to me, as I'm not back on the stable mailing list yet (I will be when my machine is back up & from the upgrades). thanks, Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 13:21:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [208.42.49.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6246137B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hamlet.nectar.com (hamlet.nectar.com [10.0.1.102]) by gw.nectar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97A01925A for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:21:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nectar@localhost) by hamlet.nectar.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA45678 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:21:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nectar@spawn.nectar.com) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:21:14 -0500 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: TESTERS WANTED: nsswitch Message-ID: <20000906152114.B26152@hamlet.nectar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Url: http://www.nectar.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I just committed nsswitch to -CURRENT (see below). I would like to have nsswitch in -STABLE in time for 4.2. If that is going to happen, I'll need some more responses from those running -STABLE with these patches. You can find patches at http://www.nectar.com/freebsd/nsswitch. Please be sure to grab both the patch file and shar file for your release. Dynamically loadable `nss modules' and a sample LDAP module will also be available in a couple of weeks. Thanks! -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / jvidrine@verio.net / nectar@FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message from "Jacques A. Vidrine" ----- Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:14:31 -0500 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: nsswitch meets current HEADS UP: nsswitch meets current Hello, I have just commited nsswitch support to FreeBSD-current. The code is based on NetBSD 1.4.2's nsswitch and I attempted to keep the implementations as close as possible. By creating an /etc/nsswitch.conf file, you can configure FreeBSD so that various databases such as passwd and group can be looked up using flat files, NIS, or Hesiod. To summarize, = Hesiod has been added to libc (see hesiod(3)). = A library routine for parsing nsswitch.conf and invoking callback functions as specified has been added to libc (see nsdispatch(3)). = The following C library functions have been modified to use nsdispatch: . getgrent, getgrnam, getgrgid . getpwent, getpwnam, getpwuid . getusershell . getaddrinfo . gethostbyname, gethostbyname2, gethostbyaddr . getnetbyname, getnetbyaddr . getipnodebyname, getipnodebyaddr, getnodebyname, getnodebyaddr As a side effect, by Hajimu UMEMOTO 's suggestion (thanks!), the default for the resolver is now files, then dns. This is different than the traditional default of dns, then files. HOWEVER, note that since November 1998 we have installed a default host.conf that causes lookup to be files, then dns anyway. = host.conf has been removed from src/etc. rc.network has been modified to warn that host.conf is no longer used at boot time. In addition, if there is a host.conf but no nsswitch.conf, the latter is created at boot time from the former. See also hesiod.conf(5) and nsswitch.conf(5). Thanks to Luke Mewburn for writing this freely distributable name-service switch implementation for the NetBSD Project. Thanks to those who sent in reports/suggestions/patches! Note that patches adding this support to 4.1-RELEASE and 4.1-STABLE are available at http://www.nectar.com/freebsd/nsswitch, as well as the patches that have been committed to -CURRENT. -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / jvidrine@verio.net / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message ----- End forwarded message ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 13:30:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cube.gelatinous.com (cube.gelatinous.com [207.82.194.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D093537B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26948 invoked by uid 1005); 6 Sep 2000 20:30:54 -0000 Date: 6 Sep 2000 20:30:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20000906203054.26947.qmail@cube.gelatinous.com> From: danh@gelatinous.com To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: VPN? IPSEC? KAME? CIA? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So what VPN solution are all the cool kids using in FreeBSD these days? I have a network, I use a FreeBSD box as my router, and I want to allow Windows and FreeBSD machines out there in the world with dynamic ips to become part of a VPN. I have downloaded the KAME RELEASE version source but I notice it hasn't been updated since May of last year. What are people using who in my particular situation? It sounds like a common thing other people would want to do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 13:37: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from karon.dynas.se (karon.dynas.se [192.71.43.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32E2537B42C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 65050 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2000 20:36:56 -0000 Received: from spirit.sto.dynas.se (HELO spirit.dynas.se) (172.16.1.10) by karon.sto.dynas.se with SMTP; 6 Sep 2000 20:36:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 3574 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2000 20:36:59 -0000 Received: from explorer.rsa.com (10.81.217.59) by spirit.dynas.se with SMTP; 6 Sep 2000 20:36:59 -0000 Received: (from mikko@localhost) by explorer.rsa.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19883; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:36:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikko) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:36:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Mikko Tyolajarvi Message-Id: <200009062036.NAA19883@explorer.rsa.com> To: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running lyris for linux makes many zombies Newsgroups: local.freebsd-stable References: Your message of "Wed, 06 Sep 2000 13:03:14 EDT." <14774.30930.120103.685216@onceler.kciLink.com> <200009061756.e86Huaa75647@cwsys.cwsent.com> X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.6 (NOV) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In local.freebsd-stable you write: >In message <14774.30930.120103.685216@onceler.kciLink.com>, Vivek Khera >writes: >> On a FreeBSD 4.1-S cvsup'd yesterday, I'm running Lyris 4.0 for linux >> (with the security patches installed). I had been running this on a >> RedHat 6.0 system quite well, but I'd rather rid myself of that system >> ;-) >> >> Anyhow, I'm getting *lots* of zombie processes being left around after >> processing a few messages, and the number keeps growing. This did not >> happen on the "real" linux system. >> >> Is there some knob I can turn on in the linux compatibility system to >> get the zombies to be reaped properly? I have COMPAT_LINUX defined in >> my kernel so the linux compat is statically linked into the kernel. >Lyris is failing to issue a wait(2) call to obtain the exit status of >children that have terminated. The kernel will keep a a process table >entry for the terminated child until the exit status has been fetched >by its parent. >My guess the reason Linux doesn't have any zombies is that the Linux >init(8) is getting involved to fetch the status and clean up after the >application. This is not standard UNIX. What FreeBSD is doing, e.g. >nothing as it's an application issue, is the correct thing to do. >IIRC, there are some differences between SYSV and BSD in this regard, >though I cannot remember the details and I don't have Stevens' book >here to reference. On SYSV (and Linux) doing "signal(SIGCHLD, SIG_IGN)" is sufficient to get rid of zombies. On BSD, you have to use sigaction() with the SA_NOCLDWAIT flag to get the same result. (Two minutes later) Yes, the following Q&D program does not leave a zombie child on linux. But when the linux-compiled binary is run under the linuxulator, it does leave a zombie. I.e. linuxulator bug. #include int main() { int pid; signal(SIGCHLD, SIG_IGN); if ((pid = (int)fork()) == 0) { exit(0); } printf("Child is %d, go look for it!\n", pid); sleep(30); } The same source compiled under FreeBSD also leaves a zombie, but that is an entirely different matter (it is supposed to). $.02, /Mikko -- Mikko Työläjärvi_______________________________________mikko@rsasecurity.com RSA Security To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 13:44:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BB637B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA25785; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:44:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-78.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.78) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma025781; Wed Sep 6 15:44:04 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000906150106.00b77ee0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 15:41:38 -0500 To: Neil Blakey-Milner From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000906140812.A25738@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <4.3.2.20000906044214.00b81920@207.227.119.2> <4.3.2.20000906044214.00b81920@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:08 PM 9/6/00 +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: >On Wed 2000-09-06 (05:22), Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > > If you build with this option and remove /bin/(t)csh, buildworld will die > > when /usr/bin/vgrind is called like so: > >Well, this is obvious. You can't remove /bin/sh either. True, but there isn't a NO_SH option either and we all should know that it is required on many a system. At least one shell *is* needed. >"POLA" entails having /bin/csh that is csh-compatible. NO_TCSH is for >people who don't want to build and install new versions of csh. It >doesn't mean that you can run the system without it, and definitely >doesn't mean that you can remove it and expect things to build. I recall the csh/tcsh debate, but with NO_TCSH csh and the hardlink to tcsh neither are updated. My logic says that if they are not updated, then why keep them around. >NOPERL is another example. Try build your kernel without /usr/bin/perl. I disagree, as this is a poor example. This option, and others, are used more by those that wish to have an up-to-date version. Further, I could argue then it should be part of the build tools, if it is required. And yes, I do know that perl is needed somewhere on the system or many things will go BOOM. My question stems more from having a (eventually) truly modular system, which is why I question having a csh script. For those that don't use csh other than one time upon install, it is just another file not being used. Let's not get into another "which shell" debate, otherwise I'll have to request that ksh be in the base system. With a NO_KSH option for those that don't wish it. I would not ask that all scripts then use ksh. ;) It boils down to if it required, then why bother having NO_? option for it. Other options are somewhat dubious, as they are needed for various 3rd party software, but at least the system can be build without them. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 13:48:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gifw.genroco.com (genroco.com [205.254.195.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84C037B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gi2.genroco.com (gi2.genroco.com [192.133.120.3]) by gifw.genroco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19074; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:48:46 -0500 Received: from scot.genroco.com (scot.genroco.com [192.133.120.125]) by gi2.genroco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA22163; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:48:46 -0500 Message-ID: <00a801c01843$da0351e0$7d7885c0@genroco.com> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: , References: <20000906203054.26947.qmail@cube.gelatinous.com> Subject: Re: VPN? IPSEC? KAME? CIA? Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:48:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: > I have downloaded the KAME RELEASE version source > but I notice it hasn't been updated since May of > last year. > At the time FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE was released, the KAME could was updated to the latest version. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 13:53:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gifw.genroco.com (genroco.com [205.254.195.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B50837B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gi2.genroco.com (gi2.genroco.com [192.133.120.3]) by gifw.genroco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19093; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:53:07 -0500 Received: from scot.genroco.com (scot.genroco.com [192.133.120.125]) by gi2.genroco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA26631; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:53:07 -0500 Message-ID: <00be01c01844$759dea20$7d7885c0@genroco.com> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Scot W. Hetzel" , , References: <20000906203054.26947.qmail@cube.gelatinous.com> <00a801c01843$da0351e0$7d7885c0@genroco.com> Subject: Re: VPN? IPSEC? KAME? CIA? Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:53:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Scot W. Hetzel" > From: > > I have downloaded the KAME RELEASE version source > > but I notice it hasn't been updated since May of > > last year. > > > At the time FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE was released, the KAME could was updated to > the latest version. > That should read KAME code or IPv6 code (KAME). Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 14:21:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front001.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB38237B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.217.6.97] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front001.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with ESMTP id 18256747; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 17:21:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.uhring.com [127.0.0.1]) by dave.uhring.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06035; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:20:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:20:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Uhring X-Sender: duhring@dave.uhring.com To: Gregory C Schohn Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fdisk won't work on new hard drives can't get In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have had excellent success in partitioning IDE drives using the Linux fdisk found on the install CD's of Mandrake-6.0 and 6.1, not the later versions. Try booting one of these CD's and start an install. Either reset or 3-finger warm boot after completing the fdisk. As I say, this has worked well with IDE drives. YMMV. Good luck with it. Dave On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Gregory C Schohn wrote: > I am trying to partition the disks with ideally a small dos partition > that I may need for some other OS down the road and a large FreeBSD one. > However, I haven't had ANY success with fdisk or disklabel. > > I'm using an fdisk that was last edited August 27th. I have altogether 4 > scsi disks connected to the machine right now. Its only the 18GB ones > that are messed up (I have 2 4GB ones that look & act fine). I trussed > the fdisk runs on each, & its making the same calls on each, so all that I > can figure is that the devices aren't doing the correct consistent > things... > > Oh, I tried using fdisk -I & here's what I got > > fdisk -I /dev/da1 > ******* Working on device /dev/da1 ******* > fdisk: invalid fdisk partition table found > > :( > > thanks alot, > Greg > > On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > > > Gregory C Schohn wrote: > > > hi - I've recently purchased 2 different 18GB scsi drives (a barracuda & a > > > cheetah, but the layout of the disks are identical). For the past month, > > > I've not been able to get partitions laid on them that FreeBSD is willing > > > to notice correctly (w/ disklabel & fdisk). > > > > First of all, make sure you have the latest fdisk. There were some bugs > > in it that have since been fixed. Secondly, what are you trying to > > accomplish exactly? If you are trying to blow away the existing mbr > > and start from scratch, try 'fdisk -I '. > > > > -- > > > > John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > > PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc > > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 14:31:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3082737B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13Wmmm-0008VX-00; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 23:31:12 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:31:12 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue Message-ID: <20000906233112.B32184@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <4.3.2.20000906044214.00b81920@207.227.119.2> <4.3.2.20000906044214.00b81920@207.227.119.2> <20000906140812.A25738@mithrandr.moria.org> <4.3.2.20000906150106.00b77ee0@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000906150106.00b77ee0@207.227.119.2>; from jeff-ml@mountin.net on Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 03:41:38PM -0500 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed 2000-09-06 (15:41), Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > True, but there isn't a NO_SH option either and we all should know that it > is required on many a system. At least one shell *is* needed. To provide a "BSD system", you need to have csh around. > >"POLA" entails having /bin/csh that is csh-compatible. NO_TCSH is for > >people who don't want to build and install new versions of csh. It > >doesn't mean that you can run the system without it, and definitely > >doesn't mean that you can remove it and expect things to build. > > I recall the csh/tcsh debate, but with NO_TCSH csh and the hardlink to tcsh > neither are updated. My logic says that if they are not updated, then why > keep them around. > > >NOPERL is another example. Try build your kernel without /usr/bin/perl. > > I disagree, as this is a poor example. This option, and others, are used > more by those that wish to have an up-to-date version. Further, I could > argue then it should be part of the build tools, if it is required. And > yes, I do know that perl is needed somewhere on the system or many things > will go BOOM. The existence of NO_TCSH is mostly for the same reason as the existence of perl - "We have our own copy, don't overwrite it." That's why NO_SENDMAIL existed too. You can't have a "functional" system without /usr/sbin/sendmail of _some_ variety, but you could replace sendmail with exim, postfix, or qmail, or a later version of sendmail, and you don't want that clobbered. It's almost exactly the same example. There is a 44bsd-csh port for people who want old csh, and those people don't want tcsh clobbering it. > My question stems more from having a (eventually) truly modular system, > which is why I question having a csh script. For those that don't use csh > other than one time upon install, it is just another file not being > used. Let's not get into another "which shell" debate, otherwise I'll have > to request that ksh be in the base system. With a NO_KSH option for those > that don't wish it. I would not ask that all scripts then use ksh. ;) I can see where you're coming from, but you aren't allowed to complain if you remove something that is there and something doesn't work. If I removed perl (because I hate it with a passion and think python rocks the world (this is an example)), and my kernel compile or ports builds break, I couldn't complain either. > It boils down to if it required, then why bother having NO_? option for > it. Other options are somewhat dubious, as they are needed for various 3rd > party software, but at least the system can be build without them. I'm not against the rewrite in 'sh' if it is a function-for-function replacement. I do however think you're taking leaps in your argument for not having /bin/csh at all. I can think of a number of scripts from ports that will break. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 14:38: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C8637B424 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4C2E881; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e86Lbv841813; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:37:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14774.47413.520585.194330@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:37:57 -0400 (EDT) To: Mikko Tyolajarvi Cc: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running lyris for linux makes many zombies Newsgroups: local.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <200009062036.NAA19883@explorer.rsa.com> References: <14774.30930.120103.685216@onceler.kciLink.com> <200009061756.e86Huaa75647@cwsys.cwsent.com> <200009062036.NAA19883@explorer.rsa.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 11) "Carlsbad Caverns" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "MT" == Mikko Tyolajarvi writes: MT> On SYSV (and Linux) doing "signal(SIGCHLD, SIG_IGN)" is sufficient to MT> get rid of zombies. On BSD, you have to use sigaction() with the MT> SA_NOCLDWAIT flag to get the same result. MT> (Two minutes later) MT> Yes, the following Q&D program does not leave a zombie child on linux. MT> But when the linux-compiled binary is run under the linuxulator, it MT> does leave a zombie. MT> I.e. linuxulator bug. Could some kind of wrapper program be written to make children disappear like this and then exec lyris? I suspect not since grandchildren don't signal up to the grandparent, but I'm not that familiar with signal handling. Any kind of fix would be appreciated. Right now I'm restarting the process every 6 hours to keep zombies limited in number. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 14:38:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8875437B507; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA70710; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:38:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:38:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: danh@gelatinous.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VPN? IPSEC? KAME? CIA? In-Reply-To: <20000906203054.26947.qmail@cube.gelatinous.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 6 Sep 2000 danh@gelatinous.com wrote: > So what VPN solution are all the cool kids using > in FreeBSD these days? FreeBSD 4.1 or later contains full ipsec code, including the KAME IKE daemon (racoon, in ports). FreeBSD 4.0 also contained ipsec but racoon didnt work with it, meaning you had to manually key security associations and in practise it was somewhat difficult to interoperate with some other ipsec platforms. > I have downloaded the KAME RELEASE version source > but I notice it hasn't been updated since May of > last year. The snapshots are a more appropriate thing to use, but I dont think you need them. There aren't very many changes to ipsec made there, except for racoon which is also updated in the ports collection. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 14:41:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wgate.com (mail.wgate.com [38.219.83.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F10237B42C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jesup.eng.tvol.net ([10.32.2.26]) by mail.wgate.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id QPF4TZKS; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:41:15 -0400 Reply-To: Randell Jesup To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: bbauman@wgate.com (Bruce Bauman) Subject: GDB 4.18 and shared libraries (Mozilla) From: Randell Jesup Date: 06 Sep 2000 17:41:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: Gregory C Schohn's message of "Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:52:27 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.43/Emacs 20.6 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I (and some coworkers) are having problems with GDB under 4.1-stable and shared libraries (particularily in Mozilla). Ever since upgrading from 3.3 or 3.4-stable to 4.1-stable, GDB gives bogus line numbers/addresses for references in shared libraries, doesn't show arguments, can't display auto variables, etc. For functions in the main executable, line numbers are right and arguments print. All the shared libraries were totally rebuilt after upgrading (from scratch). Debug information seems to be present in the libraries as linked, including line number info, but it's very hard to determine if it's correct from the output of 'nm'. Any ideas? Note: this is not the Mozilla port from /usr/ports; I'm tracking the source tree. My .mozconfig: # sh # Build configuration script # # See http://www.mozilla.org/build/unix.html for build instructions. # ac_add_options --disable-pedantic ac_add_options --with-pthreads ac_add_options --enable-xterm-updates ac_add_options --enable-debug Options from the M17 port in /usr/ports: --disable-cpp-rtti \ --disable-debug \ --disable-idltool \ --disable-md \ --disable-pedantic \ --disable-xterm-updates \ --enable-cpp-exceptions \ --enable-double-buffer \ --enable-editor \ --enable-mailnews \ --enable-mathml \ --enable-optimize \ --enable-pics \ --enable-tests \ --enable-toolkit=gtk \ --enable-x11-shm \ --with-pthreads \ --with-jpeg=${LOCALBASE} \ --with-png=${LOCALBASE} I believe cpp-rtti defaults to off, cpp-exceptions defaults to on, toolkit defaults to gtk, and most of the others are irrelevant to this. -- Randell Jesup, Worldgate Communications, ex-Scala, ex-Amiga OS team ('88-94) rjesup@wgate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 15:48: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from karon.dynas.se (karon.dynas.se [192.71.43.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50E8437B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 66313 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2000 22:48:00 -0000 Received: from spirit.sto.dynas.se (HELO spirit.dynas.se) (172.16.1.10) by karon.sto.dynas.se with SMTP; 6 Sep 2000 22:48:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 10059 invoked by uid 1125); 6 Sep 2000 22:48:04 -0000 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:47:57 -0700 (PDT) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mikko_Ty=F6l=E4j=E4rvi?= X-Sender: mikko@dynas.se To: Vivek Khera Cc: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running lyris for linux makes many zombies In-Reply-To: <14774.47413.520585.194330@onceler.kciLink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: mikko@dynas.se X-MIME-Autoconverted: to 8bit by snemail 0.35 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "MT" == Mikko Tyolajarvi writes: > > MT> On SYSV (and Linux) doing "signal(SIGCHLD, SIG_IGN)" is sufficient to > MT> get rid of zombies. On BSD, you have to use sigaction() with the > MT> SA_NOCLDWAIT flag to get the same result. > > MT> (Two minutes later) > > MT> Yes, the following Q&D program does not leave a zombie child on linux. > MT> But when the linux-compiled binary is run under the linuxulator, it > MT> does leave a zombie. > > MT> I.e. linuxulator bug. > > Could some kind of wrapper program be written to make children > disappear like this and then exec lyris? I suspect not since > grandchildren don't signal up to the grandparent, but I'm not that > familiar with signal handling. > > Any kind of fix would be appreciated. Right now I'm restarting the > process every 6 hours to keep zombies limited in number. Umm... you did say "any" so here we go: --- sys/i386/linux/linux_signal.c.org Wed Sep 6 14:52:15 2000 +++ sys/i386/linux/linux_signal.c Wed Sep 6 15:37:39 2000 @@ -139,6 +139,8 @@ if (linux_nsa != NULL) { nsa = stackgap_alloc(&sg, sizeof(struct sigaction)); linux_to_bsd_sigaction(linux_nsa, nsa); + if (linux_sig == LINUX_SIGCHLD && nsa->sa_handler == SIG_IGN) + nsa->sa_flags |= SA_NOCLDWAIT; } else nsa = NULL; The above patch does seem to get rid of zombies for a linux process that has done a signal(SIGCHLD, SIG_IGN). However, it has not been thorougly tested, it is likely not correct (for example, what about the return data when converting in the other direction?), it may well cause problems for all other linux programs, crash your machine, give your cat influenza, or worse. Use at your own risk (patch, build linux.ko, kldunload, kldload) NOT a certified FreeBSD kernel hacker, /Mikko Mikko Työläjärvi_______________________________________mikko@rsasecurity.com RSA Security To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 17:34:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C442237B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22665; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:34:34 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19470; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:34:33 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200009070034.LAA19470@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: danh@gelatinous.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VPN? IPSEC? KAME? CIA? In-reply-to: Your message of 06 Sep 2000 20:30:54 -0000. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 11:34:33 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > So what VPN solution are all the cool kids using > in FreeBSD these days? See http://www.itga.com.au/~gnb/vpn/ for my continuing efforts to solve this problem. I'm using ppp-over-ssh for FreeBSD-to-FreeBSD VPN. Work on a secure Windows PPTP-to-FreeBSD solution is progressing (slowly! Brian - Where's the MPPE patches for ppp? :) I also have some Windows IPsec clients I need to test with the new KAME/racoon in 4.1. All will be documented in the above page when I get it done. Greg. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 17:50: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C77937B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (136bus30.tampabay.rr.com [24.94.136.30]) by smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19598; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: werdna@mail.mucow.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200009070034.LAA19470@lightning.itga.com.au> References: <200009070034.LAA19470@lightning.itga.com.au> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:49:21 -0400 To: Gregory Bond From: "Andrew C. Greenberg" Subject: Re: VPN? IPSEC? KAME? CIA? Cc: danh@gelatinous.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:34 AM +1100 9/7/00, Gregory Bond wrote: > > So what VPN solution are all the cool kids using >> in FreeBSD these days? > >See http://www.itga.com.au/~gnb/vpn/ for my continuing efforts to solve this >problem. I'm using ppp-over-ssh for FreeBSD-to-FreeBSD VPN. > >Work on a secure Windows PPTP-to-FreeBSD solution is progressing (slowly! >Brian - Where's the MPPE patches for ppp? :) Try mpd-netgraph in the ports collection for PPTP services. This seemed to work just fine in my limited experiments. For earlier releases of FreeBSD that do not support netgraph, perhaps the PoPToP/Slirp combo described below will suffice: http://www.serc.nl/people/vogt/vpn -- Andrew C. Greenberg acg@netwolves.com V.P. Eng., R&D, 813.885.2779 (office) NetWolves Corporation 813.885.2380 (facsimile) www.netwolves.com Please use werdna@mucow.com instead of werdna@gate.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 17:57:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC92437B423; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e870vet14679; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:27:40 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:27:40 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith Cc: Mike Tancsa , Tim Tsai , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Message-ID: <20000907102740.B7718@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20000906084835.B21113@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200009052339.QAA03602@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200009052339.QAA03602@mass.osd.bsdi.com>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:39:48PM -0700 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 5 September 2000 at 16:39:48 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: >>> Just about to test and compare the same Atlas IV drives (QUANTUM ATLAS IV 9 >>> WLS 0B0B) usings a 2940U2 (aic7890/91) with vinum. I will post the results >>> with the same three SCSI drives in the various adaptors in RAID5 (3 drive >>> config) when done. >> >> Please make sure to use rawio in the tests. Other things, such as >> bonnie and dd, give better looking results, but they're not very >> related to what happens in practice. > > Rawio is largely a seek-time tester, Correct. That's the biggest issue in disk I/O. > and not particularly representative of real-world I/O loads either. It's reasonably close. It could always be better, of course, and as discussed I'm planning to write code to snapshot real-life disk activity. In the meantime, I think the current version is relatively accurate. What specific problems do you see? > To get a feel for how a controller interacts with the buffer cache, > you need to present the load via the filesystem. No, you just need to present the same kind of load. > I typically use a large number of bonnie processes (20 or so) > working with large datasets (1-10GB) and then ignore their output > and instead monitor the controller's throughput using devstat. > Other filesystem load generators are probably worth considering as > well, since bonnie's I/O patterns are not very imaginiative. Nor are they particularly representative of real-world I/O loads :-) In addition, monitoring devstat output requires a lot of interpretation. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 18: 3:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF6E37B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e8713DE18409; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:33:13 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:33:13 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Tancsa Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Message-ID: <20000907103313.C7718@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <20000905115126.A14470@myhakas.matti.ee> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905090105.053a13f0@marble.sentex.ca> <20000905155032.A27690@futuresouth.com> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905165313.037652c0@marble.sentex.ca> <20000906084835.B21113@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000906000615.03226880@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000906000615.03226880@mail.sentex.net>; from mike@sentex.net on Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 12:29:06AM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday, 6 September 2000 at 0:29:06 -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 08:48 AM 9/6/2000 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >> Please make sure to use rawio in the tests. Other things, such as >> bonnie and dd, give better looking results, but they're not very >> related to what happens in practice. > I will certainly take a look at it. However, for now, I have been > using a number of bonnie processes simultaneously. The box I am > building is going to be just a pop3 server. So at any given time, a > number of popper processes running scanning through a users mailbox > to see how many messages they have seems to be well enough > approximated by a number of disk intensive processes like bonnie at > once. I'd really like to see the output of rawio, simply because it's more repeatable from one platform to another. > As for testing, so far so good. Actually, I was quite taken aback > by some of the results. It really does seem a lot faster, certainly > from the limited testing I have done. In one, test where I blast > email at the box as fast as I can from two outside hosts, it took > half the time deliver mail to 13,000 user mail boxes as compared to > the time it took on the 428 MegaRAID controller in a 3 disk striped > config with the same physical drives involved. You're saying Vinum is faster? > The other neat thing I have found so far, was that on a 256MB > machine, comparing the amr, mlx, da, ad to the vinum drive, the > vinum tests gave me the best even distribution of multiple processes > blasting on the disk. Running 15 bonnie -s 100 at once, all the > drivers except vinum tended to favor the first and second process in > terms of performance. vinum gave very uniform results across all the > processes which I guess if I saw 20 popper processes start up, all > accessing big mail boxes, I would want each to get equal disk > access! Hmm. I wonder if this is a coincidence. I don't think it's a plus for Vinum, anyway. I suspect that somewhere in the system we have a problem with process balancing. It's very obvious initializing Vinum subdisks, where the elapsed time for performing identical operations in parallel can vary by a factor of 2:1. > The only problem I have run into so far is creating a 3 disk RAID5 > array. Is this not possible ? Sure. > It *seems* to take the command OK (raid5 -v /dev/da0e /dev/da1e /dev/da2e), > but newfs gives > newmail# newfs -v /dev/vinum/vinum0 > newfs: /dev/vinum/vinum0: Input/output error > on a STABLE box from 2 days ago. Take a look at http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/how-to-debug.html and send me the info I ask for there. > Am I better off in the end going with 4 drives in a RAID 10 config > instead ? That depends very much on what you want to do. RAID 10 will be faster, of course. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 18:11:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A23137B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e871BS024106; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:41:28 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:41:28 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Maikel Verheijen Cc: Joseph Scott , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS Maestro 2E Message-ID: <20000907104128.D7718@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20000905145035.M69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> <39B56DB0.44529118@owp.csus.edu> <20000906084400.H69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000906084400.H69666@intramail.worldonline.nl>; from maikel@worldonline.nl on Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 08:44:00AM +0200 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday, 6 September 2000 at 8:44:00 +0200, Maikel Verheijen wrote: > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 03:03:28PM -0700, Joseph Scott wrote: >> You don't mention which notebook this is for. I've got a Dell >> Inspiton 7500 with this sound card in it. I know others have pointed >> you to the drivers for this, but that driver doesn't enable the >> internal speakers on the 7500. Someone else came up with a patch to >> the driver that others have already pointed you to. I put up copies >> of the driver and the patch on my site. > Sorry, > > I have a Dell Latitude CP/X. > >> Driver : >> http://www.randomnetworks.com/files/maestro-r4-20000725.tar.gz >> Patch for internal speakers on Dell Inspiron 7500 : >> http://www.randomnetworks.com/files/mstr2_spk.patch2 > Thanx for your effort, but the driver worked without the patch... :) FWIW, the Maestro driver has just been committed to -CURRENT. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 18:45:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.3.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD6337B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (CPE-144-132-245-92.nsw.bigpond.net.au [144.132.245.92]) by sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA17424 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:45:03 +1100 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74173 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Sep 2000 01:45:02 -0000 From: "Andrew Reilly" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:45:02 +1100 To: Gregory Bond Cc: danh@gelatinous.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VPN? IPSEC? KAME? CIA? Message-ID: <20000907124502.A74081@gurney.reilly.home> References: <200009070034.LAA19470@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200009070034.LAA19470@lightning.itga.com.au>; from gnb@itga.com.au on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 11:34:33AM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 11:34:33AM +1100, Gregory Bond wrote: > > So what VPN solution are all the cool kids using > > in FreeBSD these days? > > See http://www.itga.com.au/~gnb/vpn/ for my continuing efforts to solve this > problem. I'm using ppp-over-ssh for FreeBSD-to-FreeBSD VPN. > > Work on a secure Windows PPTP-to-FreeBSD solution is progressing (slowly! > Brian - Where's the MPPE patches for ppp? :) > > I also have some Windows IPsec clients I need to test with the new KAME/racoon > in 4.1. All will be documented in the above page when I get it done. My FreeBSD VPN requirements are mostly as a client, rather than as a server. I'm finding that mpd-netgraph is pretty good for connecting to a Windows2000 box, after a small patch was applied to coerce it to authenticate with MS-CHAP instead of MD5-CHAP. I plan to try out the IPSec stuff eventually, but for now, this is OK. -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 18:56:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from groenquist.com (cx636606-b.santab1.ca.home.com [24.15.127.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12FD37B42C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by groenquist.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e871usn03965; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:56:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@groenquist.com) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:56:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Groener To: Neil Hoggarth Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "profiling timer expired" on new kernel builds in 4.1-R and 4.1-S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I run 4-STABLE built from the *same* 23rd August source tree on a Sony > Vaio 505SN (with a 400MHz Mobile Pentium II) and I haven't seen a problem > there. Could the problem be something perculier to the K6? What sort of > hardware are you running, Matt? > I'm running a Dell Dimension P-II 400MHz, 384MB RAM, 18GB SCSI on a Qlogic card. The RAM is relatively new, though predates the problems by several months. Cheers, -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 19: 6: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97BB37B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8725fV32554; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:05:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000906212120.03316380@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 22:00:34 -0400 To: Greg Lehey From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Vinum (was: RAID) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000907103313.C7718@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4.2.2.20000906000615.03226880@mail.sentex.net> <00090310375700.05988@www.runapplications.com> <4.2.2.20000904120154.07455bd0@mail.sentex.net> <20000905101653.A49732@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000904204407.033e2920@mail.sentex.net> <20000905115126.A14470@myhakas.matti.ee> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905090105.053a13f0@marble.sentex.ca> <20000905155032.A27690@futuresouth.com> <4.3.2.7.0.20000905165313.037652c0@marble.sentex.ca> <20000906084835.B21113@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000906000615.03226880@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:33 AM 9/7/2000 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >I'd really like to see the output of rawio, simply because it's more >repeatable from one platform to another. I will give it a try. > > As for testing, so far so good. Actually, I was quite taken aback > > by some of the results. It really does seem a lot faster, certainly > > from the limited testing I have done. In one, test where I blast > > email at the box as fast as I can from two outside hosts, it took > > half the time deliver mail to 13,000 user mail boxes as compared to > > the time it took on the 428 MegaRAID controller in a 3 disk striped > > config with the same physical drives involved. > >You're saying Vinum is faster? Yes vinum was faster in the mail test. I think the big hit has been the issue of RAID5 on 3 disks. For testing, I put my scratch disks (5 1 gig seagates I got at surplus) and got the following results 1gig segate on an ahc -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 400 4684 20.0 4342 5.8 2225 4.0 4466 28.0 4635 3.4 140.6 1.1 5 stripe segate (vinum) -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 400 21745 91.5 21862 31.0 3749 8.5 9325 59.3 11582 13.1 348.5 3.8 1000 21484 91.2 20910 29.0 3796 8.3 9429 59.7 11417 12.6 186.7 2.4 raid5 400 1446 6.2 1427 1.9 1191 2.1 6597 41.6 6942 5.4 372.3 3.2 raid10 400 9012 39.1 8692 12.1 3434 6.4 7971 50.3 8209 6.4 377.2 3.0 1gig on amr428 -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU raid5 400 10204 43.4 10015 13.8 3106 5.3 7594 47.6 8142 6.1 218.1 1.6 1000 10447 44.5 10593 14.6 3370 5.8 7628 48.0 8200 6.1 105.3 0.9 What I find interesting is the raid5 on 5 disks (SEAGATE ST31055W 40.000MB/s (old 5400 rpm slow pokes, good for RAID5 'wreckin/testin')) I see better read write performance, than on one disk. But, when only using 3 drives in a RAID 5, I see really crappy performance (which I realize now is expected). So, when I was looking at da0 (ATLAS IV 80.000MB/s SCSI-3 device) -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 400 20072 84.3 19866 26.7 7477 13.6 14591 91.6 19343 14.9 288.2 2.3 1000 19247 81.6 18716 25.3 7913 17.8 14787 93.4 19310 21.4 146.4 1.8 and looked at the drives in the amr in a 3 drive RAID5 -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 400 8984 38.5 8881 12.6 4189 7.2 9420 59.1 9797 7.4 409.5 3.1 1000 9275 39.6 9186 12.6 4341 7.5 9840 61.9 10229 7.7 203.7 1.8 the figures looked disappointing to say the least. I imagine, I would see a fairly big improvement in the amr if I had 2 more of these drives to test with.... Which in the end, is what I will probably go with. RAID5+ 1 hot spare. > > The other neat thing I have found so far, was that on a 256MB > > machine, comparing the amr, mlx, da, ad to the vinum drive, the > > vinum tests gave me the best even distribution of multiple processes > > blasting on the disk. Running 15 bonnie -s 100 at once, all the > >Hmm. I wonder if this is a coincidence. I don't think it's a plus >for Vinum, anyway. I suspect that somewhere in the system we have a >problem with process balancing. It's very obvious initializing Vinum >subdisks, where the elapsed time for performing identical operations >in parallel can vary by a factor of 2:1. The list is rather large, but these particular results can be found at http://www.simianscience.com/multi.txt Some of them are way out of whack. If I have time at the office tomorrow morning, I will get the tests re-run with raw-io. BTW, One quick test I just did from the equipment as is, ad7: 19595MB [39813/16/63] at ata3-master using UDMA66 on a promise ata66 vs da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) Random read Sequential read Random write Sequential write ID K/sec /sec K/sec /sec K/sec /sec K/sec /sec ad7e 1573.7 98 1348.4 82 1804.0 112 2845.7 174 da0e 1889.2 117 1935.6 118 1611.4 99 1736.5 106 ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 19:12:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4842537B617 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA52753; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:11:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:11:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000906150106.00b77ee0@207.227.119.2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 5 Sep 2000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: >At 02:08 PM 9/6/00 +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: >>On Wed 2000-09-06 (05:22), Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: >> > If you build with this option and remove /bin/(t)csh, buildworld will die >> > when /usr/bin/vgrind is called like so: >> >>Well, this is obvious. You can't remove /bin/sh either. > >True, but there isn't a NO_SH option either and we all should know that it >is required on many a system. At least one shell *is* needed. You folks are misinterpreting the intent of the NO_TCSH option. The idea is that if I wanted to I could install the csh port with a PREFIX of / and ask the world process to not quash my change. You *are* required to have a version of csh on your system. This just gives you the power to change which version that is. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 20:14:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E34437B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11109; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:14:18 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200009070314.UAA11109@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: VPN? IPSEC? KAME? CIA? In-Reply-To: <200009070034.LAA19470@lightning.itga.com.au> from Gregory Bond at "Sep 7, 0 11:34:33 am" To: gnb@itga.com.au (Gregory Bond) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:14:17 -0700 (MST) Cc: danh@gelatinous.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Gregory Bond wrote: >> So what VPN solution are all the cool kids using >> in FreeBSD these days? > > See http://www.itga.com.au/~gnb/vpn/ for my continuing efforts to solve this > problem. I'm using ppp-over-ssh for FreeBSD-to-FreeBSD VPN. My company has implemented Microsoft RAS servers that are willing to speak PPTP tunnels. Is there a port or configuration that will support that from a FreeBSD client? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 21:27: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E10637B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from star1.sirius.com ([207.44.191.2]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA96776 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009070426.VAA96776@mail1.sirius.com> From: eps@sirius.com (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Neil Blakey-Milner] >tcsh is fully csh-compatible. No, it isn't. And not including a 44bsd-csh package on 4.1-RELEASE's CD #1 (note that 44bsd-more is there) was downright malicious. -=EPS=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 21:46:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F65037B42C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA53841; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:46:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:46:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: Gregory Bond , danh@gelatinous.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VPN? IPSEC? KAME? CIA? In-Reply-To: <200009070314.UAA11109@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: >My company has implemented Microsoft RAS servers that are willing to >speak PPTP tunnels. Is there a port or configuration that will >support that from a FreeBSD client? ports/net/pptpclient Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 23:18:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C1337B423 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA51751; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:14:30 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:14:30 +0700 (NSS) From: Max Khon To: Randell Jesup Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Bruce Bauman Subject: Re: GDB 4.18 and shared libraries (Mozilla) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, there! On 6 Sep 2000, Randell Jesup wrote: > I (and some coworkers) are having problems with GDB under > 4.1-stable and shared libraries (particularily in Mozilla). Ever since > upgrading from 3.3 or 3.4-stable to 4.1-stable, GDB gives bogus line > numbers/addresses for references in shared libraries, doesn't show > arguments, can't display auto variables, etc. For functions in the > main executable, line numbers are right and arguments print. > > All the shared libraries were totally rebuilt after upgrading > (from scratch). > > Debug information seems to be present in the libraries as linked, > including line number info, but it's very hard to determine if it's > correct from the output of 'nm'. > > Any ideas? ld is broken. apply attached patch, rebuild everything in src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils and relink libraries. the patch is taken from binutils cvs (elf32-i386.c 1.8 -> 1.9) there is open PR for this (20373) but I cannot submit a followup for some reason. /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 6 23:33:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55B537B422 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e876X5p20233; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:33:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Alan Bindemann Cc: mux@qualys.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Alan Bindemann wrote: > >From: Doug White > >Don't expect to get lots of help for this; XFree86 4 is very, very beta > >and has lots of nasty bugs. [snip] > > > >I suggest using 3.3.6 for production use. > > I was under the impression that the i810 chipset was not supported under > 3.3.6. Am I mistaken? If so, do I need to rebuild 3.3.6 with some patches > for i810 support? I stay away from such broken hardware. As X 4 is beta, don't expect any help from this list for it. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 1:23:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1DA37B97E; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 01:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA77720; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 01:23:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 01:23:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Eric P. Scott" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue In-Reply-To: <200009070426.VAA96776@mail1.sirius.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Eric P. Scott wrote: > [Neil Blakey-Milner] > >tcsh is fully csh-compatible. > > No, it isn't. And not including a 44bsd-csh package on > 4.1-RELEASE's CD #1 (note that 44bsd-more is there) was downright > malicious. Yes, we did it to deliberately screw with your life. :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 1:23:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.abacus.co.uk (mailgate.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1420537B97F for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 01:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abacus.co.uk (pcantony.bl.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.111]) by mailgate.abacus.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00724; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:53:49 +0100 Message-ID: <39B7504E.7FA136F9@abacus.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 09:22:38 +0100 From: Antony T Curtis Organization: Abacus Polar PLC (UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-20000828-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Bindemann Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, mux@qualys.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alan Bindemann wrote: > > >From: Doug White > >Don't expect to get lots of help for this; XFree86 4 is very, very beta > >and has lots of nasty bugs. [snip] > > > >I suggest using 3.3.6 for production use. > > I was under the impression that the i810 chipset was not supported under > 3.3.6. Am I mistaken? If so, do I need to rebuild 3.3.6 with some patches > for i810 support? AFAIK, the i810 is only supported under 4.0.1 with FreeBSD 4.1 It's working here :o) -- ANTONY T CURTIS Tel: +44 (1635) 36222 Abacus Polar Holdings Ltd Fax: +44 (1635) 38670 > Arbitrary systems, pl.n.: >  Systems about which nothing general can be said, save "nothing > general can be said." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 1:26: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF18B37B97E for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 01:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA78065 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 01:26:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 01:26:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: stable@Freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: RSA liberated Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The native OpenSSL implementation of RSA has been activated by default in -stable, meaning rsaref and librsaUSA are no longer required, and new installs will be able to make use of openssh in ssh1 mode by default. Basically, the situation for US people has caught up with what international folk have enjoyed for many months. Further cleanups will be taking place over the next few days. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 1:30:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45E237B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 01:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e878UK960078 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:30:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id KAA20275 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:30:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00462 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:51:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michel) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:51:41 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? Message-ID: <20000907095140.D373@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 11:33:05PM -0700, Doug White wrote: > On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Alan Bindemann wrote: > > > >From: Doug White > > >Don't expect to get lots of help for this; XFree86 4 is very, very beta > > >and has lots of nasty bugs. [snip] > > > > > >I suggest using 3.3.6 for production use. > > > > I was under the impression that the i810 chipset was not supported under > > 3.3.6. Am I mistaken? If so, do I need to rebuild 3.3.6 with some patches > > for i810 support? > > I stay away from such broken hardware. > > As X 4 is beta, don't expect any help from this list for it. > Perhaps X 4 is beta, but X 3 does not work or work poorly on some video cards which are amongst the best on the market (GeForce). So a shift to 4.01 will soon to be considered. Do you think people will only buy Matrox G 400 because it is very well supported by X 3? To speak for my case, i have received mail that GeForce works with X 3 but my own works very poorly, if at all. I am obliged to go to 4.01 and install nVidia drivers under Linux. Corresponding drivers for freebsd are said to be in preparation. -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 4: 4:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E7D37B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 04:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e87B4J998004 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:04:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id NAA22783 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:04:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00280 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:01:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michel) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:01:52 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: floppy drive Message-ID: <20000907130152.A259@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have just discovered a strange problem on my new PC. The mother board is an Abit KT7 hosting a Duron with Via chipset. I can triple boot FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE (stock GENERIC kernel) Linux and Win98. Problem: under freebsd i cannot run fdformat fd0. Immediately bad crc errors appear, only some sectors come out with V. Of course i have tried with several floppies and two floppy drives, one of them working very well in another machine. Much stranger: with the same floppy and floppy drive and machine, formatting works perfectly OK with Linux and Win98. To add to the bizarre, once i have a good fdformatted floppy (under linux) i can perfectly read and write to it under freebsd. dd if=/dev/fd0 of= /tmp/flop works and is quite fast. dd if=/tmp/flop of=/dev/fd0 also works. Floppy drives are Sony, and it is the first time i see that on a freebsd machine. -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 4:49:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gem.lightlink.com (gem.lightlink.com [205.232.34.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2CC37B63C for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 04:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cornell.edu (isdn1-13.lightlink.com [205.232.34.78]) by gem.lightlink.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA32615 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:46:00 -0400 Message-ID: <39B747A2.E5B74CF6@cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 07:45:38 +0000 From: Nikita Proskourine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: problems with make buildworld still... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys, Following the advice of several people here, I experimented with the source tree included on my CDs of FreeBSD. I have CDs for FreeBSD 4.0 release, so I installed all the source packages and gave it a try. I thought that I better make sure that I can build that (they wouldn't include a non-buildable tree on a CD, would they?) before I cvsup, first to 4.0 stable, then to 4.1 stable. I had a number of disappointments: 1) At least 1 file so far I identified as corrupted right after install from CD (contrib/gdb/gdb/jv-exp.y). After the build failed, I successfully searched the log for the cause of the error and fetched the file from ftp. 2) I ran the build again. This time the build stopped with a much less informative error. Here is the relevant part of the log: ===> usr.bin/killall cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/fdwrite; make _EXTRADEPEND ===> sys/modules/ugen echo fdwrite: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend ===> usr.bin/ktrace ===> usr.sbin/gifconfig @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /usr/src/usr.bin/ktrace/ktrace.c /usr/src/usr.bin/ktrace/subr.c touch opt_usb.h perl @/kern/makedevops.pl -h @/kern/bus_if.m perl @/kern/makedevops.pl -h @/kern/device_if.m rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /usr/src/usr.sbin/gifconfig/gifconfig.c perl @/kern/vnode_if.pl -h @/kern/vnode_if.src cd /usr/src/usr.bin/ktrace; make _EXTRADEPEND echo ktrace: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/gifconfig; make _EXTRADEPEND rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/ugen/../../dev/usb/ugen.c echo gifconfig: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend ===> usr.bin/kzip rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /usr/src/usr.bin/kzip/kzip.c ===> usr.sbin/ifmcstat ===> sys/modules/uhid mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 cd /usr/src/usr.bin/kzip; make _EXTRADEPEND 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error rm -f .depend ... Error code 2 continues to propagate at this point. 3) Could it be that there are bugs in FreeBSD 4.0 release that cause corruption of files in the filesystem on a dual-processor machine? I am getting many copies of the following message: ad2: WRITE command timeout - resetting ata1: resetting devices .. done 3) At this point I'm stuck, not knowing whether it's worth to cvsup and hope it fixes build errors or whether it will only make matters worse. -- ___ ___ [ Unix is very Friendly ... || cs / __ __ __ /__/__ ... just pickier about || ling /--/_//_ /_ / \ /_ /\ who it makes friends with. ] || ai / /\ /_ /_ /__/__//_/ Nikita Proskourine / Cornell University To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 4:59:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cytherianage.net (cb801971-a.rchstr1.mn.home.com [24.17.34.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDF137B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 04:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rtdean@localhost) by cytherianage.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e87BwUc20898; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:58:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:58:30 -0500 (CDT) From: "Ryan T. Dean" To: Nikita Proskourine Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with make buildworld still... In-Reply-To: <39B747A2.E5B74CF6@cornell.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Nikita Proskourine wrote: > Hi guys, > > Following the advice of several people here, I experimented with the > source tree included on my CDs of FreeBSD. I have CDs for FreeBSD 4.0 > release, so I installed all the source packages and gave it a try. I > thought that I better make sure that I can build that (they wouldn't > include a non-buildable tree on a CD, would they?) before I cvsup, first > to 4.0 stable, then to 4.1 stable. > > I had a number of disappointments: > 1) At least 1 file so far I identified as corrupted right after install > from CD (contrib/gdb/gdb/jv-exp.y). After the build failed, I > successfully searched the log for the cause of the error and fetched the > file from ftp. You should cvsup to 4.1-STABLE. From 4.0-RELEASE, you will download/ checkout 14.5 megs of new files and will download 75 megs or so of patches, but, trust me, its work it. > 2) I ran the build again. This time the build stopped with a much less > informative error. Here is the relevant part of the log: > > ===> usr.bin/killall > cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/fdwrite; make _EXTRADEPEND > ===> sys/modules/ugen > echo fdwrite: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend > ===> usr.bin/ktrace > ===> usr.sbin/gifconfig > @ -> /usr/src/sys > machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include > /usr/src/usr.bin/ktrace/ktrace.c /usr/src/usr.bin/ktrace/subr.c > touch opt_usb.h > perl @/kern/makedevops.pl -h @/kern/bus_if.m > perl @/kern/makedevops.pl -h @/kern/device_if.m > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include > /usr/src/usr.sbin/gifconfig/gifconfig.c > perl @/kern/vnode_if.pl -h @/kern/vnode_if.src > cd /usr/src/usr.bin/ktrace; make _EXTRADEPEND > echo ktrace: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend > cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/gifconfig; make _EXTRADEPEND > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ > -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include > /usr/src/sys/modules/ugen/../../dev/usb/ugen.c > echo gifconfig: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend > ===> usr.bin/kzip > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include > /usr/src/usr.bin/kzip/kzip.c > ===> usr.sbin/ifmcstat > ===> sys/modules/uhid > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > cd /usr/src/usr.bin/kzip; make _EXTRADEPEND > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > rm -f .depend > > ... > Error code 2 continues to propagate at this point. Don't know what to tell you here, I guess try a cvsup, but it may be related to the errors below (which I have more information on). > 3) Could it be that there are bugs in FreeBSD 4.0 release that cause > corruption of files in the filesystem on a dual-processor machine? I am > getting many copies of the following message: > > ad2: WRITE command timeout - resetting > ata1: resetting devices .. done Not bugs with the release, I had the same problem on my dual pPro 200 when I first installed. As it was, it was a bad device in the IDE chain, which was sending ghost messages, and kept powering up and down (IDE floppy drive). I ended up rearraging all of my devices, and disabling everything I didn't need (down to hard drive, sometimes CD-Rom at the moment). > 3) At this point I'm stuck, not knowing whether it's worth to cvsup and > hope it fixes build errors or whether it will only make matters worse. Well, the cvsup for the latest bugfixes alone is worth it. I guess I don't know why you are making buildworld and installworld right after installing without updating anything (what you said makes it sound like you completed the install, then cd /usr/src and started building for the hell of it). If you cvsup, you WILL have to buildworld and installworld. Oh, before you cvsup to 4.1-STABLE, cd into the /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs directory and delete the two symlinks (softdeps.c and ufs_softdeps.h, I believe). Between 4.0-RELEASE and 4.1-STABLE they got changed from symlinks to real files, its the one thing cvsup doesn't do on its own, and you'll have to do it if you want the build to succeed. Cheers! -Ryan T. Dean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 5: 7:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cytherianage.net (cb801971-a.rchstr1.mn.home.com [24.17.34.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB6B37B423 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 05:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rtdean@localhost) by cytherianage.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e87C6Q320921; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:06:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:06:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "Ryan T. Dean" To: Nikita Proskourine Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with make buildworld still... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Ryan T. Dean wrote: > On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Nikita Proskourine wrote: > > > I had a number of disappointments: > > 1) At least 1 file so far I identified as corrupted right after install > > from CD (contrib/gdb/gdb/jv-exp.y). After the build failed, I > > successfully searched the log for the cause of the error and fetched the > > file from ftp. > > You should cvsup to 4.1-STABLE. From 4.0-RELEASE, you will > download/ checkout 14.5 megs of new files and will download 75 megs or so > of patches, but, trust me, its work it. > > > 2) I ran the build again. This time the build stopped with a much less > > informative error. Here is the relevant part of the log: > > ... > > Error code 2 continues to propagate at this point. > > Don't know what to tell you here, I guess try a cvsup, but it may > be related to the errors below (which I have more information on). > > > 3) Could it be that there are bugs in FreeBSD 4.0 release that cause > > corruption of files in the filesystem on a dual-processor machine? I am > > getting many copies of the following message: > > > > ad2: WRITE command timeout - resetting > > ata1: resetting devices .. done > > Not bugs with the release, I had the same problem on my dual pPro > 200 when I first installed. As it was, it was a bad device in the IDE > chain, which was sending ghost messages, and kept powering up and down > (IDE floppy drive). I ended up rearraging all of my devices, and > disabling everything I didn't need (down to hard drive, sometimes CD-Rom > at the moment). This is why I should never write eMail right before I go to bed, I end up forgetting things. Problems 1 and 2 are indicative of some sort of hardware errors as mentioned in three, and the ata controller resetting because of device timeouts. Strip the machine down to what it needs to run, and run hard drive diagnostics on the hard drive. If you can stand to lose all the data on the drive, do write/ read 0 testing to it. If not, there are lesser tests which may work, but won't test the drive as fully as a write/ read 0. But write errors when installing (and read errors on the fly) are most likely the cause of the "at least one corrupted file", and perhaps with the compile time errors as well (missing files, corrupted files, etc.). Oh, and if its still failing, change the IDE cables as well; I know it sounds strange, but I've had bad IDE cables as well. Cheers! (and heres hoping I don't remember something else in 2 mins or so) -Ryan T. Dean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 5:29:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from betka.statistics.sk (betka.statistics.sk [195.168.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0514437B423 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 05:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by betka.statistics.sk; (8.8.8/1.3/10May95) id OAA08653; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:31:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Message-Id: <39B78A4D.7491C2BB@statistics.sk> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 14:30:06 +0200 From: Milan Rettka X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 7:10:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5042737B423 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13X2NS-000AnZ-00; Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:10:06 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:10:06 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: "Eric P. Scott" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue Message-ID: <20000907161006.A41231@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200009070426.VAA96776@mail1.sirius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200009070426.VAA96776@mail1.sirius.com>; from eps@sirius.com on Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 09:26:52PM -0700 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed 2000-09-06 (21:26), Eric P. Scott wrote: > [Neil Blakey-Milner] > >tcsh is fully csh-compatible. > > No, it isn't. And not including a 44bsd-csh package on > 4.1-RELEASE's CD #1 (note that 44bsd-more is there) was downright > malicious. How is it not? (with regards to scripts) Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 7:29:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.136.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2587837B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frizzantino.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (frizzantino.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.133.65]) by gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (8.9.1/8.9.1/TechFak/pk+ro20000427) with SMTP id QAA25208; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:29:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Schonefeld Received: by frizzantino.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (SMI-8.6/pk970604A) id QAA14824; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:29:45 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:29:44 +0200 To: Greg Lehey , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ESS Maestro 2E Message-ID: <20000907162944.A14805@frizzantino.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> References: <20000905145035.M69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> <39B56DB0.44529118@owp.csus.edu> <20000906084400.H69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> <20000907104128.D7718@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000907104128.D7718@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 10:41:28AM +0930 X-Zen: Oooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! Eines schoenen Tages schrieb Greg Lehey: > On Wednesday, 6 September 2000 at 8:44:00 +0200, Maikel Verheijen wrote: > >> Driver : > >> http://www.randomnetworks.com/files/maestro-r4-20000725.tar.gz > >> Patch for internal speakers on Dell Inspiron 7500 : > >> http://www.randomnetworks.com/files/mstr2_spk.patch2 > > Thanx for your effort, but the driver worked without the patch... :) > > FWIW, the Maestro driver has just been committed to -CURRENT. Great. Any chance to see it -STABLE anytime soon? BTW .. using it on a Gericom Overdose II without any problmes so far :) Good work, guys! Cheers, Oliver -- -------------------------------------------------------- And remember: "To Infinity And Far Beyond ... Somehow?!" email: oschonef@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de olli@psychopathen.org -------------------------------------------------------- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me in your ~/.signature to help me spread! <- Save this lifeform ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 7:44: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f77.hotmail.com [216.32.181.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3188A37B424 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:43:53 -0700 Received: from 155.45.157.98 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 07 Sep 2000 14:43:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [155.45.157.98] From: "Kenneth Mays" To: gerti-freebsds@BITart.com, mike@sentex.net Cc: andrew@cosa.uk-legal.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATA-100 Support Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 10:43:52 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Sep 2000 14:43:53.0012 (UTC) FILETIME=[0AD62F40:01C018DA] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You may also want to research this file. -Ken ftp://ftp.promise.com/Controllers/IDE/Ultra100/U100D160B19R.zip >From: Gerd Knops >Reply-To: gerti-freebsds@BITart.com >To: Mike Tancsa >CC: Andrew Tulloch , stable@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: ATA-100 Support >Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:25:10 -0500 > >Mike Tancsa wrote: > > At 02:19 PM 9/5/00 +0100, Andrew Tulloch wrote: > > >I've noticed some mentions of ATA-100 support, does nayone know if > > >the promise ATA-100 controller onboard the Asus A7V mobo is > > >supported in -stable? > > > > Looking at the sources, it seems to be there. > > > > newmail% grep -i promise * > > ata-all.c: return "Promise ATA33 controller"; > > ata-all.c: return "Promise ATA66 controller"; > > ata-all.c: return "Promise ATA100 controller"; > > ata-all.c: /* Promise and HighPoint controllers support > > busmastering DMA */ > > ata-all.c: case 0x4d38105a: /* Promise 66's need their clock changed > > */ ata-all.c: case 0x4d30105a: /* Promise 100's too */ > > ata-all.c: case 0x4d33105a: /* Promise's need burst mode to be turned > > on */ ata-all.c: case 0x4d33105a: /* Promise 33's */ > > ata-all.c: case 0x4d38105a: /* Promise 66's */ > > ata-all.c: case 0x4d30105a: /* Promise 100's */ > > > > >It looks that way, but it isn't. The onboard Promise ATA100 chipset >uses a different ID than the (supported) stand-alone board. See my >patch at > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=20834 > >Gerd > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 8:28:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4468537B423; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scottj@localhost) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09303; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:28:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Scott X-Sender: scottj@pebkac.owp.csus.edu To: Kris Kennaway Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > The native OpenSSL implementation of RSA has been activated by default in > -stable, meaning rsaref and librsaUSA are no longer required, and new > installs will be able to make use of openssh in ssh1 mode by default. What does this mean to folks who are tracking -stable? After my next cvsup and make world this will be built and won't need rsaref anymore? > Basically, the situation for US people has caught up with what > international folk have enjoyed for many months. > > Further cleanups will be taking place over the next few days. > > Kris --- Joseph Scott joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu The Office Of Water Programs - CSU Sacramento To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 8:30:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E92737B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA33459; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:29:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: eps@sirius.com (Eric P. Scott) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue In-Reply-To: Message from eps@sirius.com (Eric P. Scott) of "Wed, 06 Sep 2000 21:26:52 PDT." <200009070426.VAA96776@mail1.sirius.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 08:29:58 -0700 Message-ID: <33455.968340598@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > No, it isn't. And not including a 44bsd-csh package on > 4.1-RELEASE's CD #1 (note that 44bsd-more is there) was downright > malicious. Hyperbole will get you nowhere. Perhaps you could try to exhibit some actual signs of intelligence for the audience instead and let us know HOW it's not compatible with csh. Then perhaps someone could rectify those issues and we could actually get somewhere rather than waving our arms around and shouting. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 8:32:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D682737B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000907153133.DFGX12879.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@math.missouri.edu> for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:31:33 -0700 Message-ID: <39B7B503.8C67DF1B@math.missouri.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 10:32:19 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS Maestro 2E References: <20000905145035.M69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> <39B56DB0.44529118@owp.csus.edu> <20000906084400.H69666@intramail.worldonline.nl> <20000907104128.D7718@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20000907162944.A14805@frizzantino.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oliver Schonefeld wrote: > > Hello! > > Eines schoenen Tages schrieb Greg Lehey: > > On Wednesday, 6 September 2000 at 8:44:00 +0200, Maikel Verheijen wrote: > > >> Driver : > > >> http://www.randomnetworks.com/files/maestro-r4-20000725.tar.gz > > >> Patch for internal speakers on Dell Inspiron 7500 : > > >> http://www.randomnetworks.com/files/mstr2_spk.patch2 I really liked the patch - made all the difference for me. I hope that the patch is also available in STABLE when it is sent there - at least as an option, as the sound did not work properly for me before the patch. Thanks, Stephen -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 9:12:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B547237B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA33770; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:11:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: Michel Talon Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? In-Reply-To: Message from Michel Talon of "Thu, 07 Sep 2000 09:51:41 +0200." <20000907095140.D373@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 09:11:47 -0700 Message-ID: <33766.968343107@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Perhaps X 4 is beta, but X 3 does not work or work poorly on some video cards > which are amongst the best on the market (GeForce). So a shift to 4.01 will Hmmm. Tell that to my GeForce card - it appears to work just great with 3.3.6 and has for some time now. :) I also don't think that "a shift to 4.01" would be advisable for anyone, no matter what card they have. As others have already eloquently stated, XFree86 4.x is extremely BETA right now and does not even support the full set of cards which 3.3.6 does. It should be considered a developer's release only, and by "developer" I mean "XFree86 developer", e.g. someone suitably skilled in hacking on X servers and capable of assisting the XFree86 project in polishing it up for more general consumption. > To speak for my case, i have received mail that GeForce works with X 3 but my > own works very poorly, if at all. I am obliged to go to 4.01 and install You really should try it for yourself rather than believing the mail you receive since "very poorly" does not describe my own experience at all. 3.3.6 works just fine with all my current graphics cards (Voodoo3, GeForce, G400). - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 9:16:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A55237B440 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e87GGme26259; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:16:47 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: Michel Talon , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? Message-ID: <20000907091647.A18862@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <33766.968343107@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <33766.968343107@winston.osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 09:11:47AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Jordan Hubbard [000907 09:12] wrote: > > Perhaps X 4 is beta, but X 3 does not work or work poorly on some video cards > > which are amongst the best on the market (GeForce). So a shift to 4.01 will > > Hmmm. Tell that to my GeForce card - it appears to work just great > with 3.3.6 and has for some time now. :) > > I also don't think that "a shift to 4.01" would be advisable for > anyone, no matter what card they have. As others have already > eloquently stated, XFree86 4.x is extremely BETA right now and does > not even support the full set of cards which 3.3.6 does. It should be > considered a developer's release only, and by "developer" I mean > "XFree86 developer", e.g. someone suitably skilled in hacking on X > servers and capable of assisting the XFree86 project in polishing it > up for more general consumption. I don't think that's fair, 4.0.1 sometimes works pretty well for me, I have the dual head stuff setup and it's awesome. It doesn't work at all on my laptop however. I'd say that if you want to upgrade, do a complete backup of your existing X11 directory and if you can't get 4.0.1 working in 20-40 minutes then it's time to save yourself the fustration and go back to 3.3.6. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 9:24:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sonetechcorp.com (064-031-065-031.inaddr.vitts.com [64.31.65.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBAA37B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sonetechcorp.com by mail.sonetechcorp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA54173; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:26:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from pw@mail.sonetechcorp.com) Message-Id: <200009071626.MAA54173@mail.sonetechcorp.com> To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 07 Sep 2000 09:11:47 PDT." <33766.968343107@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 12:26:11 -0400 From: Paul Werkowski Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | | You really should try it for yourself rather than believing the mail | you receive since "very poorly" does not describe my own experience at | all. 3.3.6 works just fine with all my current graphics cards | (Voodoo3, GeForce, G400). | | - Jordan Hmm, but I have here a "GeForce 2 GTS 32MB DDR" that is totally unrecognized by both FreeBSD 4.1 and RedHat Linux. So that must be different than your GeForce, right? Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 9:40:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7272537B423 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA34082; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Michel Talon , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? In-Reply-To: Message from Alfred Perlstein of "Thu, 07 Sep 2000 09:16:47 PDT." <20000907091647.A18862@fw.wintelcom.net> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 09:40:14 -0700 Message-ID: <34078.968344814@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I don't think that's fair, 4.0.1 sometimes works pretty well for > me .. "sometimes works pretty well" is hardly the most ringing endorsement I've ever heard and my original point still stands. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 9:42:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB7A37B423 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA34102; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:42:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: Paul Werkowski Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? In-Reply-To: Message from Paul Werkowski of "Thu, 07 Sep 2000 12:26:11 EDT." <200009071626.MAA54173@mail.sonetechcorp.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 09:42:04 -0700 Message-ID: <34099.968344924@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hmm, but I have here a "GeForce 2 GTS 32MB DDR" that is totally > unrecognized by both FreeBSD 4.1 and RedHat Linux. So that > must be different than your GeForce, right? Might be - I have one of the earlier GeForce 256 cards. Have you tried declaring it as a TNT card? I know that seems wacky, but it worked for me. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 9:45:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.com (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4699E37B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dwcjr (dwcjr.inethouston.com [216.118.21.147]) by leviathan.inethouston.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CD32177E1B; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:46:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <024801c018eb$28c5b280$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "Paul Werkowski" , "Jordan Hubbard" Cc: References: <34099.968344924@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:46:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a Geforce 256 DDR 32MB and it worked for me too. What was really wierd is that a voodoo3 driver worked for me too. I forgot to change my driver when I got a new video card, maybe it was just a fluke. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Hubbard" To: "Paul Werkowski" Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? > > Hmm, but I have here a "GeForce 2 GTS 32MB DDR" that is totally > > unrecognized by both FreeBSD 4.1 and RedHat Linux. So that > > must be different than your GeForce, right? > > Might be - I have one of the earlier GeForce 256 cards. Have you > tried declaring it as a TNT card? I know that seems wacky, but > it worked for me. > > - Jordan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 10:15:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D9B37B423 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kernighan.demon.co.uk ([194.222.151.76] helo=homebrew.kernighan.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13X5HE-000KSd-0C; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:15:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (njh@localhost) by homebrew.kernighan.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00452; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 18:15:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from njh@kernighan.demon.co.uk) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 18:15:13 +0100 (BST) From: Neil Hoggarth To: Matt Groener Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "profiling timer expired" on new kernel builds in 4.1-R and 4.1-S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Matt Groener wrote: > I'm running a Dell Dimension P-II 400MHz, 384MB RAM, 18GB SCSI on a > Qlogic card. Aha! I have a Qlogic ISP1040 SCSI card. I think we have a suspect ... Regards, Neil Hoggarth. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 10:39:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25EF37B423; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA75477; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:39:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:39:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Joseph Scott Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Joseph Scott wrote: > > The native OpenSSL implementation of RSA has been activated by default in > > -stable, meaning rsaref and librsaUSA are no longer required, and new > > installs will be able to make use of openssh in ssh1 mode by default. > > What does this mean to folks who are tracking -stable? After my > next cvsup and make world this will be built and won't need rsaref > anymore? Correct! Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 10:46:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front7.grolier.fr (front7.grolier.fr [194.158.96.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B56837B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sniper.domtek.fr (nas4-221.vzy.club-internet.fr [195.36.175.221]) by front7.grolier.fr (8.9.3/No_Relay+No_Spam_MGC990224) with SMTP id TAA17742 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:46:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Matthieu Pasini To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Perl Doesn't like XFree-4.0.1 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 21:07:28 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00090521085201.35453@sniper.domtek.fr> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm having a problem since i installed Xfree-4.0.1 from the ports. XFree 4 is very good working, but perl is complaining . I have the following message when i do "whereis"( i have seen this error in Eterm which must be using Perl and whereis is using Perl) : >bash-2.03$ perl >perl: warning: Setting locale failed. >perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > LC_ALL = (unset), > LC_CTYPE = "en_US", > LANG = (unset) > are supported and installed on your system. >perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). I did'nt made a make world since the 22 August : >FreeBSD sniper.domtek.fr 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #10: Tue Aug 22 >16:14:36 CEST 2000 root@sniper.domtek.fr:/usr/src/sys/compile/SNIPER i386 Does someone have an idea ? Regards Matthieu Pasini To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 11: 4:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05DC37B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 69F8DA8AE; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 05:04:16 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D2B544B; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 04:04:16 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 04:04:16 +1000 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: Matthieu Pasini Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Perl Doesn't like XFree-4.0.1 In-Reply-To: <00090521085201.35453@sniper.domtek.fr> Message-ID: X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Matthieu Pasini wrote: > >perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > >perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > > LC_ALL = (unset), > > LC_CTYPE = "en_US", > > LANG = (unset) > > are supported and installed on your system. > >perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). man perllocale. A quick fix would be: setenv LC_ALL "C" for csh I would guess but the man page gives you more details. Try also http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/using-localization.html Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 11:13:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtpproxy1.mitre.org (mb-20-100.mitre.org [129.83.20.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24B337B42C for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy1.mitre.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22630 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:05:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailsrv2.mitre.org (mailsrv2.mitre.org [129.83.221.17]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07768 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mitre.org ([128.29.145.140]) by mailsrv2.mitre.org (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with ESMTP id G0J3KT00.IB7; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:05:17 -0400 Message-ID: <39B7D8E0.A5AE4466@mitre.org> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 14:05:20 -0400 From: "Andresen,Jason R." Organization: The MITRE Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-20000509M (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthieu Pasini Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl Doesn't like XFree-4.0.1 References: <00090521085201.35453@sniper.domtek.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthieu Pasini wrote: > > Hello, > I'm having a problem since i installed Xfree-4.0.1 from the ports. > XFree 4 is very good working, but perl is complaining . > I have the following message when i do "whereis"( i have > seen this error in Eterm which must be using Perl and whereis is using Perl) : > > >bash-2.03$ perl > >perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > >perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > > LC_ALL = (unset), > > LC_CTYPE = "en_US", > > LANG = (unset) > > are supported and installed on your system. > >perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). > > I did'nt made a make world since the 22 August : > > >FreeBSD sniper.domtek.fr 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #10: Tue Aug 22 > >16:14:36 CEST 2000 root@sniper.domtek.fr:/usr/src/sys/compile/SNIPER i386 > > Does someone have an idea ? Perl doesn't like your locale settings, I don't know why XFree4 would change these, it may just be a coinincidence. Try settings these environment variables in your profile: export LANG="en_US.ISO_8859-1" export LC_ALL="en_US.ISO_8859-1" export LC_CTYPE="en_US.ISO_8859-1" Assuming of course that you are an American English speaker. (and based upon your language setting above). -- _ _ _ ___ ____ ___ ______________________________________ / \/ \ | ||_ _|| _ \|___| | Jason Andresen -- jandrese@mitre.org / /\/\ \ | | | | | |/ /|_|_ | Views expressed may not reflect those /_/ \_\|_| |_| |_|\_\|___| | of the Mitre Corporation. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 11:46:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cgi.sstar.com (cgi.sstar.com [209.205.176.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0314D37B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jking (jking.lgc.com [134.132.75.164]) by cgi.sstar.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA22206; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:46:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Message-ID: <003401c018fb$f4835700$a44b8486@jking> From: "Jim King" To: "Jordan Hubbard" , "Paul Werkowski" Cc: References: <200009071626.MAA54173@mail.sonetechcorp.com> Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:46:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Paul Werkowski wrote: > | > | You really should try it for yourself rather than believing the mail > | you receive since "very poorly" does not describe my own experience at > | all. 3.3.6 works just fine with all my current graphics cards > | (Voodoo3, GeForce, G400). > | > | - Jordan > > Hmm, but I have here a "GeForce 2 GTS 32MB DDR" that is totally > unrecognized by both FreeBSD 4.1 and RedHat Linux. So that > must be different than your GeForce, right? Yes, the "GeForce2 GTS" and "GeForce 256" are different chips. There's also an even newer "GeForce2 Ultra". The GeForce 256 works fine with XFree86 3.3.6 and 4.0.1. The GeForce2 is a different story: After much research I decided that it *might* be possible to get this card working with 4.0.1 if you use some binary-only Linux drivers from Nvidia; with 3.3.6 it looks completely hopeless. At that point I threw the TNT2 card back in the PC and put the GeForce2 back in the Win2000 PC I borrowed it from. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 12:20:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B5D37B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imap.gv.tsc.tdk.com (imap.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.198]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22543 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:20:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by imap.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA37502 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:20:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Don.Lewis@tsc.tdk.com) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA03522 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:20:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <200009071920.MAA03522@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HEADS UP: make world needed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just committed a change to 4-stable that added variables to the ucred and pcred structures. This affects libkvm and its users like ps and top. When you next cvsup, you'll need to rebuild and install both world and your kernel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 12:26:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C939E37B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp26130024.columbus.rr.com [24.26.130.24]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02361 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39B7ED1A.3A173041@columbus.rr.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 15:31:38 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > What does this mean to folks who are tracking -stable? After my > > next cvsup and make world this will be built and won't need rsaref > > anymore? > > Correct! Isn't Monday 11 Sept the "official" expiration of the patent? -- FreeBSD ('BSD'): No battles to the death are recalled. It is a small Daemon wearing sneakers. It is normally found on Internet servers and powerful desktops, and moves very quickly. A kill of this poweful creature is enough to tick off any sysadmin. It is highly magical, having the power to serve. It resists DoS and SYN flood attacks. Nothing is known about its attack. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 12:34:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B314237B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13X7RV-0005W7-00 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 07 Sep 2000 15:34:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:34:37 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated Message-ID: <20000907153437.D17741@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <39B7ED1A.3A173041@columbus.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <39B7ED1A.3A173041@columbus.rr.com>; from wmoran@columbus.rr.com on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 03:31:38PM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Moran probably said: > Isn't Monday 11 Sept the "official" expiration of the patent? No. September 20th or 21st (depending on who you ask and if you're talking about the last day it's valid or the first day of it's expiry. This is now irrelivent. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 12:50:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jaka.isd.state.in.us (jaka.isd.state.in.us [199.8.63.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948A837B50C for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaka.isd.state.in.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jaka.isd.state.in.us (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA01734 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:50:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200009071950.OAA01734@jaka.isd.state.in.us> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Odd Load average problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 14:50:01 -0500 From: "Kevin T. Likes" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm running 4.1-S as of August 23, and ever since I updated to 4 I've been having a strange problem with load averages. The machine I'm on is a small workstation that is usually very quiet (mosly used as an x-terminal and e-mail destination). At least three times, I have had load averages suddenly jump to over 1 and stay there. This is very unusual for this machine. The only time I get load averages that high normally is a buildworld/installworld. top shows one running process (itself) and that the machine is 90+% idle. The only way to fix things seems to be to reboot the machine. The load average profile after the jump looks just like normal, except everything is +1 from there. I haven't been able to figure out how to reproduce the problem. Any suggestions on how I could troubleshoot this the next time it happens are extremely welcome. --ktl p.s. Here's dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Thu Aug 24 09:34:57 EST 2000 root@jaka.isd.state.in.us:/usr2/obj/usr/src/sys/JAKA Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 132955562 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.96-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping = 12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 83886080 (81920K bytes) avail memory = 78524416 (76684K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc030b000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 8.0 de0: port 0xfc80-0xfcff mem 0xfffbfc00-0xfffbfc7f irq 11 at device 17.0 on pci0 de0: SMC 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 de0: address 00:00:c0:e5:6f:e6 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5 pcm0: on sbc0 unknown0: at port 0x100 on isa0 unknown1: at port 0x108 on isa0 unknown2: at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0 de0: enabling 10baseT port ad0: 1549MB [3148/16/63] at ata0-master using WDMA2 ad1: 504MB [1024/16/63] at ata0-slave using WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a pid 4673 (conftest), uid 106: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 12:56:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FB737B43E for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp26130024.columbus.rr.com [24.26.130.24]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06518 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39B7F42D.7BA8BDB9@columbus.rr.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:01:49 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Odd Load average problem References: <200009071950.OAA01734@jaka.isd.state.in.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Kevin T. Likes" wrote: > > I'm running 4.1-S as of August 23, and ever since I updated to 4 I've been > having > a strange problem with load averages. The machine I'm on is a small > workstation > that is usually very quiet (mosly used as an x-terminal and e-mail > destination). > At least three times, I have had load averages suddenly jump to over 1 and stay > there. This is very unusual for this machine. The only time I get load > averages > that high normally is a buildworld/installworld. top shows one running process > (itself) and that the machine is 90+% idle. The only way to fix things seems > to > be to reboot the machine. The load average profile after the jump looks just > like normal, except everything is +1 from there. I haven't been able to figure > out how to reproduce the problem. > > Any suggestions on how I could troubleshoot this the next time it happens are > extremely welcome. I don't have a solution/suggestion. But I can say that I've seen this as well. Only once or twice, and it seemed to have no negative effect on the machine - it was just an unusually high load average (in my case, all three of them were 1.00 on a machine that was doing hardly anything - and they stayed at exactly 1.00 for some hours) -- FreeBSD ('BSD'): No battles to the death are recalled. It is a small Daemon wearing sneakers. It is normally found on Internet servers and powerful desktops, and moves very quickly. A kill of this poweful creature is enough to tick off any sysadmin. It is highly magical, having the power to serve. It resists DoS and SYN flood attacks. Nothing is known about its attack. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 12:57:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AA937B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp26130024.columbus.rr.com [24.26.130.24]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06582 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39B7F450.DB4D306F@columbus.rr.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:02:24 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated References: <39B7ED1A.3A173041@columbus.rr.com> <20000907153437.D17741@pir.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > Bill Moran probably said: > > Isn't Monday 11 Sept the "official" expiration of the patent? > > No. September 20th or 21st (depending on who you ask and if you're > talking about the last day it's valid or the first day of it's > expiry. > > This is now irrelivent. How is this irrelivent? -- FreeBSD ('BSD'): No battles to the death are recalled. It is a small Daemon wearing sneakers. It is normally found on Internet servers and powerful desktops, and moves very quickly. A kill of this poweful creature is enough to tick off any sysadmin. It is highly magical, having the power to serve. It resists DoS and SYN flood attacks. Nothing is known about its attack. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 12:57:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A2B37B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796FBE8B4; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e87JvZb45497; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:57:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14775.62255.806691.613714@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:57:35 -0400 (EDT) To: mikko@dynas.se Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running lyris for linux makes many zombies In-Reply-To: References: <14774.47413.520585.194330@onceler.kciLink.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 11) "Carlsbad Caverns" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "m" == mikko writes: >> Any kind of fix would be appreciated. Right now I'm restarting the >> process every 6 hours to keep zombies limited in number. [ ... snip ... ] m> The above patch does seem to get rid of zombies for a linux process m> that has done a signal(SIGCHLD, SIG_IGN). Unfortunately, it seems lyris doesn't call signal(SIGCHLD, SIG_IGN). I'm still getting zombies out of it... grrr. It uses linux kernel threads, and that seems to be where the issue is. On linux, I'm guessing those threads don't need to be reaped by wait(), but in the linuxalator under FreeBSD, they do. Perhaps I need to attack the linux kernel thread implementation... Any other ideas out there? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 13: 2:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from manatee.mammalia.org (manatee.mammalia.org [216.231.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C936837B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by manatee.mammalia.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 39E2F11CFF4; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:02:25 -0700 From: R Joseph Wright To: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated Message-ID: <20000907130225.A21037@mammalia.org> References: <39B7ED1A.3A173041@columbus.rr.com> <20000907153437.D17741@pir.net> <39B7F450.DB4D306F@columbus.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <39B7F450.DB4D306F@columbus.rr.com>; from wmoran@columbus.rr.com on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 04:02:24PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG And Bill Moran spoke: > Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > > > Bill Moran probably said: > > > Isn't Monday 11 Sept the "official" expiration of the patent? > > > > No. September 20th or 21st (depending on who you ask and if you're > > talking about the last day it's valid or the first day of it's > > expiry. > > > > This is now irrelivent. > > How is this irrelivent? Because they just released it into the public domain yesterday. Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 13: 5: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784B537B423 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13X7uo-0005gj-00 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:04:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:04:54 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Odd Load average problem Message-ID: <20000907160454.E17741@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200009071950.OAA01734@jaka.isd.state.in.us> <39B7F42D.7BA8BDB9@columbus.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <39B7F42D.7BA8BDB9@columbus.rr.com>; from wmoran@columbus.rr.com on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 04:01:49PM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Moran probably said: > I don't have a solution/suggestion. But I can say that I've seen this as > well. Only once or twice, and it seemed to have no negative effect on > the machine - it was just an unusually high load average (in my case, > all three of them were 1.00 on a machine that was doing hardly anything > - and they stayed at exactly 1.00 for some hours) I see this on my laptop occasionally. Usually a suspend/resume will clear it back down but I've never had time to work out what process was actually claiming to be stuck in the run queue. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 13: 5:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1321737B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13X7vj-0005h1-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:05:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:05:50 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated Message-ID: <20000907160550.F17741@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable References: <39B7ED1A.3A173041@columbus.rr.com> <20000907153437.D17741@pir.net> <39B7F450.DB4D306F@columbus.rr.com> <20000907130225.A21037@mammalia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000907130225.A21037@mammalia.org>; from rjoseph@mammalia.org on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 01:02:25PM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG R Joseph Wright probably said: > And Bill Moran spoke: > > How is this irrelivent? > > Because they just released it into the public domain yesterday. as has been said on this list, oh, 3 or 4 times now. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 13:27:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B6A37B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp26130024.columbus.rr.com [24.26.130.24]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11199 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39B7FB51.CE9A75E7@columbus.rr.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:32:17 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated References: <39B7ED1A.3A173041@columbus.rr.com> <20000907153437.D17741@pir.net> <39B7F450.DB4D306F@columbus.rr.com> <20000907130225.A21037@mammalia.org> <20000907160550.F17741@pir.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > R Joseph Wright probably said: > > And Bill Moran spoke: > > > How is this irrelivent? > > > > Because they just released it into the public domain yesterday. > > as has been said on this list, oh, 3 or 4 times now. I'll be damned. Interesting PR move on the part of RSA ... I'll have to say that I never expected that. Smart of them. Thanks for the info. And I apologize if I don't read every single one of the hundred or so messages that come through this list every day. I hope I haven't offended anyone. -- FreeBSD ('BSD'): No battles to the death are recalled. It is a small Daemon wearing sneakers. It is normally found on Internet servers and powerful desktops, and moves very quickly. A kill of this poweful creature is enough to tick off any sysadmin. It is highly magical, having the power to serve. It resists DoS and SYN flood attacks. Nothing is known about its attack. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 13:36:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B1337B423 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e87Kak921408 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:36:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id WAA01105 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:36:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00582 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 18:41:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michel) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 18:41:18 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which release of 4.1 supports i810 with XFree86 4.0.1? Message-ID: <20000907184118.A560@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <33766.968343107@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <33766.968343107@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 09:11:47AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > Perhaps X 4 is beta, but X 3 does not work or work poorly on some video cards > > which are amongst the best on the market (GeForce). So a shift to 4.01 will > You are amongst the people for whom the GeForce works well. Fine. Unfortunately my own one does work poorly. It is a GeForce 256 (as recognized by the SVGA driver) and on FreeBSD the screen rapidly becomes corrupted. Since i can dual boot linux, i can see that here this corruption problem does not occur, for whatever reason i don't know, but i cannot get a greater resolution than 1024 x 768 (above screen remains black) which is poor on a 17" Iyama screen. > Hmmm. Tell that to my GeForce card - it appears to work just great > with 3.3.6 and has for some time now. :) > > I also don't think that "a shift to 4.01" would be advisable for > anyone, no matter what card they have. As others have already > eloquently stated, XFree86 4.x is extremely BETA right now and does > not even support the full set of cards which 3.3.6 does. It should be > considered a developer's release only, and by "developer" I mean > "XFree86 developer", e.g. someone suitably skilled in hacking on X > servers and capable of assisting the XFree86 project in polishing it > up for more general consumption. > I can confirm what you say. I have spent my afternoon compiling X 4.01 i have run X -configure (which recognizes the same chip) and X and all that happens is that X coredumps and leaves me without terminal. Same replacing the nv_drv driver with the binary nvidia driver. I have carefully applied everything in the README's including compilation of nvidia linux kernel module and making of devices. During the compilation i have seen a lot of -DUSE_MMX floating around which makes me wonder wether this is appropriate on an AMD processor. I will look more carefully at the Makefiles. > > To speak for my case, i have received mail that GeForce works with X 3 but my > > own works very poorly, if at all. I am obliged to go to 4.01 and install > > You really should try it for yourself rather than believing the mail > you receive since "very poorly" The mails said that the GeForce worked fine on FreeBSD and this is why i bought one. At present i am reduced to run my freebsd box on terminal mode. Hope i will find some issue to that. Note that this is not the only problem with that machine. The floppy drive is able to read and write fine, but fdformat does not work under freebsd. The formatting works under Linux and Win98. Go figure! > does not describe my own experience at > all. 3.3.6 works just fine with all my current graphics cards > (Voodoo3, GeForce, G400). > > - Jordan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 13:41:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A79F37B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.0) with SMTP id GAA22087; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 06:41:07 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 06:41:06 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Bill Moran Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Odd Load average problem In-Reply-To: <39B7F42D.7BA8BDB9@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Bill Moran wrote: > "Kevin T. Likes" wrote: [..] > > (itself) and that the machine is 90+% idle. The only way to fix things seems > > to > > be to reboot the machine. The load average profile after the jump looks just > > like normal, except everything is +1 from there. I haven't been able to figure > > out how to reproduce the problem. > > > > Any suggestions on how I could troubleshoot this the next time it happens are > > extremely welcome. > > I don't have a solution/suggestion. But I can say that I've seen this as > well. Only once or twice, and it seemed to have no negative effect on > the machine - it was just an unusually high load average (in my case, > all three of them were 1.00 on a machine that was doing hardly anything > - and they stayed at exactly 1.00 for some hours) For what it's worth, I've noticed this occasionally over a couple of years on a 2.2.6 box; same, seems like 1.00 has been added to the load average, lasts for hours, goes away. Thought it'd be fixed ages ago :) Cheers, Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 13:45:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A05937B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83356E881 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e87KjVk45603; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:45:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14775.65131.298732.839601@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:45:31 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Odd Load average problem In-Reply-To: References: <39B7F42D.7BA8BDB9@columbus.rr.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 11) "Carlsbad Caverns" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "IS" == Ian Smith writes: IS> For what it's worth, I've noticed this occasionally over a couple of IS> years on a 2.2.6 box; same, seems like 1.00 has been added to the load IS> average, lasts for hours, goes away. Thought it'd be fixed ages ago :) There was a big discussion about this on the bsdi-users mailing list a year or so ago. The gist of the problem was that on x86 architecture, you don't have enough timers to measure the system without affecting the system. Something about needing to make the resolution of the measuring timer be relatively prime to the scheduling timer. Thus, it is possible for the two logical timers to get in sync and artifically increase the load. Usually running some CPU intensive job breaks the synchronization. This is from memory, so may be slightly inaccurate, and may not apply to FreeBSD, though I suspect it does considering the issue was with the hardware capabilities. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 13:55: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F414C37B423 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.0) with SMTP id GAA22268; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 06:54:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 06:54:52 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Odd Load average problem In-Reply-To: <14775.65131.298732.839601@onceler.kciLink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "IS" == Ian Smith writes: > > IS> For what it's worth, I've noticed this occasionally over a couple of > IS> years on a 2.2.6 box; same, seems like 1.00 has been added to the load > IS> average, lasts for hours, goes away. Thought it'd be fixed ages ago :) > > There was a big discussion about this on the bsdi-users mailing list a > year or so ago. The gist of the problem was that on x86 architecture, > you don't have enough timers to measure the system without affecting > the system. Something about needing to make the resolution of the > measuring timer be relatively prime to the scheduling timer. Thus, it > is possible for the two logical timers to get in sync and artifically > increase the load. Usually running some CPU intensive job breaks the > synchronization. Guess that makes some sort of sense. Oddly maybe, I most often noticed this after running top just after an /etc/daily /etc/security run, one of the few times of day that the l.a. ever gets past 1 around here .. > This is from memory, so may be slightly inaccurate, and may not apply > to FreeBSD, though I suspect it does considering the issue was with > the hardware capabilities. A mystery it remains. Not one I've been too stressed about, but still. Thanks, Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 14: 2:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from io.cts.com (io.cts.com [198.68.174.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0321537B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto (voyager.cts.com [198.68.174.38]) by io.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA03843 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:02:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdavis@cts.com) From: "Morgan Davis" To: Subject: RE: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:02:48 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200009031936.e83JaFU25795@ptavv.es.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does this confirm that you cannot boot 4.1R installation floppies on a laptop and do a network installation using a 3Com 3C589D? I have not been able to do this at all with 4.x, but had no problems with 3.x. Under 4.x, there is no ethernet device detected (no zp or whatever it is called now). Any suggestions, other than installing from CD or PLIP? --Morgan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kevin Oberman > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 12:36 PM > To: kmays > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops > > > Ken, > > I run 4.1-Stable on my 600E with no problems. But your mileage may vary > depending on the PCCARD devices you need. 4.1 does not support CardBus > (32 bit) PCMCIA cards. It works well with my Xircom RealPort card and > my Adaptec SCSI card. > > If you have not run FreeBSD on a laptop, read up on the pccard > stuff. Look at /etc/defaults/pccard.conf and the man pages on pccardd > and pccardc. You may have a glitch or two, but, once you get the > configuration right, it should be fine. > > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer > Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) > Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) > E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 14: 5:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999CD37B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e87L5SU09667 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009072105.e87L5SU09667@ptavv.es.net> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Disk label problems Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 14:05:28 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For one partition on my disks I get the following error when I try to use dd(1): kernel: dscheck(#ad/0x20010): fixlabel: raw partition size > slice size kernel: fixlabel: raw partition offset != slice offset I also get a message that the output is read-only. (It is an unmounted partition, /dev/ad2s1a.) I can newfs the partition and mount it, though. I have looked at sources for this message, but have not been able to find it so far. Can anyone give me a pointer as to just what it means? Is it ad0, or ad2? The raw partition size is only 100 MB and the slice size is 13 GB. This is the a partition, so should be at the start of the slice. I can do the same operation to all other partitions on the disk with no problems. This is the third time I've asked about this, but I now have eliminated most other possibilities, so the question is simplified and I'm just hoping that it will ring a bell with someone. I'm starting to get desperate. Thanks, R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 15:52:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.kscable.com (fe4.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43A737B424 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([24.166.141.189]) by mail4.kscable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:52:27 -0500 To: redbishop@linuxfan.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl Doesn't like XFree-4.0.1 In-Reply-To: <00090521085201.35453@sniper.domtek.fr> References: <00090521085201.35453@sniper.domtek.fr> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.2 on XEmacs 21.1 (Channel Islands) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000907181039Y.rklosh@rkl.org> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 18:10:39 -0500 From: Ryan Losh X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 27 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Matthieu Pasini Subject: Perl Doesn't like XFree-4.0.1 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 21:07:28 +0200 Message-ID: <00090521085201.35453@sniper.domtek.fr> redbishop> >bash-2.03$ perl redbishop> >perl: warning: Setting locale failed. redbishop> >perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: redbishop> > LC_ALL = (unset), redbishop> > LC_CTYPE = "en_US", redbishop> > LANG = (unset) redbishop> > are supported and installed on your system. redbishop> >perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). redbishop> I've had this same question on my system. You didn't, by chance, install GNOME, and are using gnome-session? I've noticed that behavior with perl, killall, elm-ME+, in a gnome-terminal, but not when run from the console. I just figured that the LC_CTYPE was being exported by gnome-session somewhere, and was a bug in GNOME. I've looked at the startx script, and it's not being set in there...If you unset LC_CTYPE, the error messages go away... Any other ideas? Ryan rklosh@rkl.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 16: 2:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2D637B424 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13XAgN-0006ap-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 07 Sep 2000 19:02:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:02:10 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD v4.1R on laptops Message-ID: <20000907190210.G17741@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200009031936.e83JaFU25795@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mdavis@cts.com on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 02:02:48PM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Morgan Davis probably said: > Does this confirm that you cannot boot 4.1R installation floppies on a > laptop and do a network installation using a 3Com 3C589D? I have not been > able to do this at all with 4.x, but had no problems with 3.x. Under 4.x, > there is no ethernet device detected (no zp or whatever it is called now). I've installed 4.0-R via a 3c589C with no problems. I assume 4.1-R would also have no problems. You use the ep driver, and do a pcmcia install. Works fine, but you have to get your pcmcia controller and irqs for the cards done correctly and install with pcmcia. PAO is no longer required for this to work well. -mobile would be a better place to ask about this. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 19: 7:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E64237B43E for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA40368; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:07:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id UAA49324; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:07:37 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009080207.UAA49324@harmony.village.org> To: Ryan Losh Subject: Re: Perl Doesn't like XFree-4.0.1 Cc: redbishop@linuxfan.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Sep 2000 18:10:39 CDT." <20000907181039Y.rklosh@rkl.org> References: <20000907181039Y.rklosh@rkl.org> <00090521085201.35453@sniper.domtek.fr> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:07:36 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000907181039Y.rklosh@rkl.org> Ryan Losh writes: : I've had this same question on my system. You didn't, by chance, : install GNOME, and are using gnome-session? I've noticed that : behavior with perl, killall, elm-ME+, in a gnome-terminal, but not : when run from the console. I just figured that the LC_CTYPE was being : exported by gnome-session somewhere, and was a bug in GNOME. I've : looked at the startx script, and it's not being set in there...If you : unset LC_CTYPE, the error messages go away... : : Any other ideas? There are two or three likely sources for the LC_CTYPE. First, it could be the X server. To see if this is the case, use the following .xinitrc: #!/bin/sh xterm and then do a printenv. I kinda doubt it as I don't see this on my systems here, but I use XFree86 3.3.6. Second, it could be coming gnome-terminal. You can test this out by changing the above script in the obvious way. Do a printenv as well. This likely is where the problem came from. I don't use kde, gnome, or anything more complex than twm + xterm or qvwm + xterm. In any event the make system likely should cope. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 19:15:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ip-216-23-52-182.adsl.one.net [216.23.52.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BCF37B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e882NDe10051; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:23:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:23:13 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: David Bushong Cc: Thomas Koper , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86 4 and DRI with voodoo3 Message-ID: <20000907222313.A10019@cokane.yi.org> References: <200009021426.e82EQru00794@tomsbase> <20000902115817.R19901@bushong.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000902115817.R19901@bushong.net>; from david@bushong.net on Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 02:58:45PM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Two possibilities: 1) You are not loading the tdfx.ko that can be built from the XFree86 source tree. 2) You are running in a resolution that your card does not support for GL. I have a Matrox G200 that works in FreeBSD for DRI. David Bushong had the audacity to say: > Alas, from: http://dri.sourceforge.net/DRIuserguide.html : > > * With XFree86 4.0 and the Direct Rendering Interface (DRI), hardware > * accelerated 3D graphics can be considered a standard feature on Linux > * workstations. Support for other operating systems, such as FreeBSD, is > * underway. > > Each DRI driver, AFAICT, needs its own accompanying kernel module, and the > FreeBSD kernel modules just don't exist yet. Sigh. I'll keep running 3.3.6 > with Utah-GLX for now... > > --David Bushong > > > On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 02:26:52PM +0000, Thomas Koper wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to use DRI with XFree 4 and the voodoo3 agp card, but as > > as I start x windows I get the message that DRI is disabled: > > ... > > (II) TDFX(0): initializing int10 > > (==) TDFX(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear > > (II) TDFX(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 > > (II) TDFX(0): VESA Bios detected > > (II) TDFX(0): VESA VBE DDC supported > > (==) TDFX(0): Write-combining range (0xec000000,0x2000000) was already clear > > (==) TDFX(0): Write-combining range (0xe0000000,0x2000000) > > (==) TDFX(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear > > (II) TDFX(0): Textures Memory 10.99 MB > > II) TDFX(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) > > Screen to screen bit blits > > Solid filled rectangles > > 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles > > Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion > > Solid Lines > > Dashed Lines > > Offscreen Pixmaps > > Driver provided NonTEGlyphRenderer replacement > > Setting up tile and stipple cache: > > 8 128x128 slots > > (==) TDFX(0): Backing store disabled > > (==) TDFX(0): Silken mouse enabled > > (II) TDFX(0): direct rendering disabled > > (**) Mouse1: Protocol: "Auto" > > (**) Mouse1: Core Pointer > > (==) Mouse1: Buttons: > > ... > > > > Why does it say "(II) TDFX(0): direct rendering disabled" ? > > I compiled XFree86-4 from the ports and it starts up fine, I confiured > > it to load the GLX and DRI modules, like it says in the installation > > guide. Do I have to install anything else beside this? I just started with an > > fresh 4.1S Box. Could someone help me to get this to work?? > > > > Regards Thomas Koper > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://www.free-os.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 19:38:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [63.109.230.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F3C37B43F for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20D3B3D31; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF475C02; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:39:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Lutner X-Sender: sean@lowrider.lewman.org To: Warner Losh Cc: Ryan Losh , redbishop@linuxfan.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl Doesn't like XFree-4.0.1 In-Reply-To: <200009080207.UAA49324@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just as a "me too" I've been seeing this under 4.1-STABLE, with X 3.3.6 using Eterm. On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20000907181039Y.rklosh@rkl.org> Ryan Losh writes: > : I've had this same question on my system. You didn't, by chance, > : install GNOME, and are using gnome-session? I've noticed that > : behavior with perl, killall, elm-ME+, in a gnome-terminal, but not > : when run from the console. I just figured that the LC_CTYPE was being > : exported by gnome-session somewhere, and was a bug in GNOME. I've > : looked at the startx script, and it's not being set in there...If you > : unset LC_CTYPE, the error messages go away... > : > : Any other ideas? > > There are two or three likely sources for the LC_CTYPE. First, it > could be the X server. To see if this is the case, use the following > .xinitrc: > #!/bin/sh > xterm > and then do a printenv. I kinda doubt it as I don't see this on my > systems here, but I use XFree86 3.3.6. > > Second, it could be coming gnome-terminal. You can test this out by > changing the above script in the obvious way. Do a printenv as well. > This likely is where the problem came from. I don't use kde, gnome, > or anything more complex than twm + xterm or qvwm + xterm. > > In any event the make system likely should cope. > > Warner > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 19:55: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCA237B424 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from star1.sirius.com ([207.44.191.2]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA52210; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009080254.TAA52210@mail1.sirius.com> From: eps@sirius.com (Eric P. Scott) Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >How is it not? (with regards to scripts) I use sh for nearly all "serious" shell scripts; I only do the most trivial things as csh scripts, so I doubt I would notice any subtle incompatibilities. csh is my interactive shell of choice, and tcsh is just different enough to cause serious transition shock. What's wrong with small, simple, and functional? Why do I need 609K of feature bloat when a 279K executable does everything I want? Consider also that we're talking about the default shell for root here; the most conservative choice minimizes the possibility of unpleasant surprises. If I'm called in to perform disaster recovery on someone else's server--or worse, asked to perform telephone support--the last thing I want to trip over is some junior sysadmin wannabe's customized .tcshrc that screws up everything even more. What individuals choose as defaults for their personal accounts is their business. I don't see a problem with having sh, ksh, zsh, bash, csh, tcsh, _whatever_ available. But I stand by my opinion that replacing csh with tcsh in 4.1-RELEASE was the single most ill-conceived action taken by the committers. I expect to continue recommending 3.5.1-RELEASE for all new installations where it's hardware-compatible. (Why, oh why, wasn't Adaptec 29160 support back-ported?) -=EPS=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 19:57:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D9F37B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C2E161C71; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:57:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:57:23 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: "Eric P. Scott" Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue Message-ID: <20000907225723.U33771@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <200009080254.TAA52210@mail1.sirius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200009080254.TAA52210@mail1.sirius.com>; from eps@sirius.com on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 07:54:17PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 07:54:17PM -0700, Eric P. Scott wrote: > What individuals choose as defaults for their personal accounts > is their business. I don't see a problem with having sh, ksh, > zsh, bash, csh, tcsh, _whatever_ available. But I stand by my > opinion that replacing csh with tcsh in 4.1-RELEASE was the > single most ill-conceived action taken by the committers. I'd argue that allowing posts from your domain is currently holding that position. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 20:11:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (207-44-235-154.CodeGen.COM [207.44.235.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053B137B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (parag@localhost.parag.codegen.com [127.0.0.1]) by pinhead.parag.codegen.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26239; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:10:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) To: Ian Smith Cc: Vivek Khera , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Odd Load average problem In-Reply-To: Message from Ian Smith of "Fri, 08 Sep 2000 06:54:52 +1000." Organization: CodeGen, Inc. X-Image-URL: http://www.codegen.com/images/CG-logo-only.gif X-URL: http://www.codegen.com X-Face: =O'Kj74icvU|oS*<7gS/8'\Pbpm}okVj*@UC!IgkmZQAO!W[|iBiMs*|)n*`X ]pW%m>Oz_mK^Gdazsr.Z0/JsFS1uF8gBVIoChGwOy{EK=<6g?aHE`[\S]C]T0Wm Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:10:53 -0700 Message-ID: <26235.968382653@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> From: Parag Patel Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For what it's worth, I see this occasionally on my laptop. It seems to be amd and/or some NFS activity that kicks up the load-average to 1. It comes back down after a while so I haven't cared to get any further into it. As usual, I Could Be Wrong. -- Parag Patel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 20:30:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from firebat.bushong.net (c128625-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.176.225.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D876F37B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbushong@localhost) by firebat.bushong.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA66630; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:30:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbushong) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:30:24 -0700 From: David Bushong To: Coleman Kane Cc: Thomas Koper , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86 4 and DRI with voodoo3 Message-ID: <20000907203024.C29359@bushong.net> References: <200009021426.e82EQru00794@tomsbase> <20000902115817.R19901@bushong.net> <20000907222313.A10019@cokane.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000907222313.A10019@cokane.yi.org>; from cokane@one.net on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 10:23:13PM -0400 X-Floating-Sheep-Port: 0xbaa Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wow! I loved being proved wrong. So do you need a kernel module for that to work? Just agpart? Any documentation you looked at for this? --David Bushong On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 10:23:13PM -0400, Coleman Kane wrote: > Two possibilities: > 1) You are not loading the tdfx.ko that can be built from the XFree86 source > tree. > 2) You are running in a resolution that your card does not support for GL. > > I have a Matrox G200 that works in FreeBSD for DRI. > > David Bushong had the audacity to say: > > Alas, from: http://dri.sourceforge.net/DRIuserguide.html : > > > > * With XFree86 4.0 and the Direct Rendering Interface (DRI), hardware > > * accelerated 3D graphics can be considered a standard feature on Linux > > * workstations. Support for other operating systems, such as FreeBSD, is > > * underway. > > > > Each DRI driver, AFAICT, needs its own accompanying kernel module, and the > > FreeBSD kernel modules just don't exist yet. Sigh. I'll keep running 3.3.6 > > with Utah-GLX for now... > > > > --David Bushong > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 02:26:52PM +0000, Thomas Koper wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I'm trying to use DRI with XFree 4 and the voodoo3 agp card, but as > > > as I start x windows I get the message that DRI is disabled: > > > ... > > > (II) TDFX(0): initializing int10 > > > (==) TDFX(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear > > > (II) TDFX(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 > > > (II) TDFX(0): VESA Bios detected > > > (II) TDFX(0): VESA VBE DDC supported > > > (==) TDFX(0): Write-combining range (0xec000000,0x2000000) was already clear > > > (==) TDFX(0): Write-combining range (0xe0000000,0x2000000) > > > (==) TDFX(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear > > > (II) TDFX(0): Textures Memory 10.99 MB > > > II) TDFX(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) > > > Screen to screen bit blits > > > Solid filled rectangles > > > 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles > > > Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion > > > Solid Lines > > > Dashed Lines > > > Offscreen Pixmaps > > > Driver provided NonTEGlyphRenderer replacement > > > Setting up tile and stipple cache: > > > 8 128x128 slots > > > (==) TDFX(0): Backing store disabled > > > (==) TDFX(0): Silken mouse enabled > > > (II) TDFX(0): direct rendering disabled > > > (**) Mouse1: Protocol: "Auto" > > > (**) Mouse1: Core Pointer > > > (==) Mouse1: Buttons: > > > ... > > > > > > Why does it say "(II) TDFX(0): direct rendering disabled" ? > > > I compiled XFree86-4 from the ports and it starts up fine, I confiured > > > it to load the GLX and DRI modules, like it says in the installation > > > guide. Do I have to install anything else beside this? I just started with an > > > fresh 4.1S Box. Could someone help me to get this to work?? > > > > > > Regards Thomas Koper > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > Coleman Kane > President, > UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://www.free-os.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 20:46:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from groenquist.com (cx636606-b.santab1.ca.home.com [24.15.127.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6646737B424 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by groenquist.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e883k9w01792; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@groenquist.com) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:46:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Groener To: Neil Hoggarth Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "profiling timer expired" on new kernel builds in 4.1-R and 4.1-S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I'm running a Dell Dimension P-II 400MHz, 384MB RAM, 18GB SCSI on a > > Qlogic card. > > Aha! I have a Qlogic ISP1040 SCSI card. I think we have a suspect ... > I use a Qlogic 1040B (FW-SE). Can anyone on the distribution lend a light to a link between the profiling errors and Qlogic (or isp device) cards? Realize I am guessing, but it's something to go on... -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 21:39:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.kscable.com (fe4.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C706137B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([24.166.141.189]) by mail4.kscable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:39:31 -0500 To: imp@village.org Cc: redbishop@linuxfan.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl Doesn't like XFree-4.0.1 In-Reply-To: <200009080207.UAA49324@harmony.village.org> References: <20000907181039Y.rklosh@rkl.org> <00090521085201.35453@sniper.domtek.fr> <200009080207.UAA49324@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.2 on XEmacs 21.1 (Channel Islands) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000907235745S.rklosh@rkl.org> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 23:57:45 -0500 From: Ryan Losh X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 37 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG imp> could be the X server. To see if this is the case, use the following imp> .xinitrc: imp> #!/bin/sh imp> xterm imp> and then do a printenv. I kinda doubt it as I don't see this on my imp> systems here, but I use XFree86 3.3.6. imp> Yes, I don't see it (LC_CTYPE) either... imp> Second, it could be coming gnome-terminal. You can test this out by imp> changing the above script in the obvious way. Do a printenv as well. imp> This likely is where the problem came from. I don't use kde, gnome, imp> or anything more complex than twm + xterm or qvwm + xterm. imp> I tested that (.xinitrc with *ONLY* a gnome-terminal), and again, I don't see the LC_CTYPE var getting set. I took it one step further: I did a startx with the following .xinitrc: #!/bin/sh ktrace gnome-session I looked for "en_US" in *EVERY* file that gets opened during a startx, and I discovered that "LC_CTYPE" and "en_US" are *HARDCODED* into the libgnomeui.so.4 file/shared library. I would say without reservation that "THIS is where the LC_CTYPE is being set." Therefore, I need to read the FreeBSD handbook and see how one goes about reporting a bug in the ports (gnomelibs-1.2.4, to be exact). I am not an expert, but I don't think that hardcoding this value in a shared library is "The Right Way To Get The Job Done (TM)" Ryan rklosh@rkl.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 21:47:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BED737B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA41008; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:47:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA52458; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:47:04 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009080447.WAA52458@harmony.village.org> To: Ryan Losh Subject: Re: Perl Doesn't like XFree-4.0.1 Cc: redbishop@linuxfan.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Sep 2000 23:57:45 CDT." <20000907235745S.rklosh@rkl.org> References: <20000907235745S.rklosh@rkl.org> <20000907181039Y.rklosh@rkl.org> <00090521085201.35453@sniper.domtek.fr> <200009080207.UAA49324@harmony.village.org> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 22:47:04 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000907235745S.rklosh@rkl.org> Ryan Losh writes: : that "THIS is where the LC_CTYPE is being set." Therefore, I need to : read the FreeBSD handbook and see how one goes about reporting a bug : in the ports (gnomelibs-1.2.4, to be exact). I am not an expert, but Short answer: cd /usr/ports/*/gnomelibs mail -s "Bug report" `make -V MAINTAINER` Longer answer involves submitting a PR, but I usually like to send mail to the maintainer first. : I don't think that hardcoding this value in a shared library is "The : Right Way To Get The Job Done (TM)" You are 100% correct about that. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 21:56:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8F7D37B423 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19447 invoked by uid 0); 8 Sep 2000 04:56:22 -0000 Received: from p3ee2160d.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.226.22.13) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 8 Sep 2000 04:56:22 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15943; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 06:46:25 +0200 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 06:46:25 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: mtree problem - readlink(2) or chdir(2) failure? Message-ID: <20000908064625.P252@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG May I attract your attention towards the bin/21017 PR (see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21017 for more details) about how mtree(1) fails to compare a file system against a database? I'm stuck in narrowing down what causes the problem and I wouldn't want to be the responsible developer trying to fix this bug with the little and confuse info provided so far. :) It's not that I didn't try to work things out. It's just that I fail to see what's going wrong ... :( Is anybody else using mtree in a similar way? Is somebody else experiencing this failure? Does anybody even know what conditions would "help" to cause the failure (this would be the best thing that could happen)? I apologize for crossposting to multiple lists, but I'm trying to reach the appropriate audience with the will to eliminate this bug. Please don't burden the lists and reply via PM instead, I will summarize and use the gained knowledge to help and solve the problem, of course. Or feel free to f'up to the PR directly when you think the info will be of general interest. This will keep the details in the audit trail and won't bother uninterested list members. Thank you for reading this and considering what would aid in solving the problem. Have a nice day! virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 7 23:46:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84D837B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from NOOR (unknown [156.27.243.27]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D0B91C99F; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:46:47 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "Matt Groener" , "Neil Hoggarth" Cc: Subject: RE: "profiling timer expired" on new kernel builds in 4.1-R and4.1-S Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:43:31 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I mostly always see this error message (Profiling timer expired) when I try to dump a large MySQL database with the mysqldump comamnd. I have no clue how to fix this, and I would greatly appreciate any hint on this subject. Thanks, Noor -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Matt Groener Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 5:46 AM To: Neil Hoggarth Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "profiling timer expired" on new kernel builds in 4.1-R and4.1-S > > I'm running a Dell Dimension P-II 400MHz, 384MB RAM, 18GB SCSI on a > > Qlogic card. > > Aha! I have a Qlogic ISP1040 SCSI card. I think we have a suspect ... > I use a Qlogic 1040B (FW-SE). Can anyone on the distribution lend a light to a link between the profiling errors and Qlogic (or isp device) cards? Realize I am guessing, but it's something to go on... -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 0:42:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67EA37B423 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 00:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.211.149]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Fri, 8 Sep 2000 00:41:15 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA23879; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 00:42:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 00:42:18 -0700 From: "Crist J . Clark" To: "Eric P. Scott" Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue Message-ID: <20000908004218.L69158@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <200009080254.TAA52210@mail1.sirius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200009080254.TAA52210@mail1.sirius.com>; from eps@sirius.com on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 07:54:17PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 07:54:17PM -0700, Eric P. Scott wrote: [snip] > What individuals choose as defaults for their personal accounts > is their business. I don't see a problem with having sh, ksh, > zsh, bash, csh, tcsh, _whatever_ available. But I stand by my > opinion that replacing csh with tcsh in 4.1-RELEASE was the > single most ill-conceived action taken by the committers. How many times does it have to be said? The old "csh" in pre-4.0 FreeBSD was actually a stripped down implementation of tcsh. The old "csh" in FreeBSD was not replaced with tcsh. Rather, the old reduced-feature tcsh in pre-4.0 FreeBSD was restored to a fully functional tcsh. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 2: 2:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cosa.uk-legal.net (cosa.uk-legal.net [212.240.216.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6010637B423 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 02:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by cosa.uk-legal.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9212A11289; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:02:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cosa.uk-legal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A3C1A; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:02:51 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:02:51 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Tulloch To: Sean Lutner Cc: Warner Losh , Ryan Losh , redbishop@linuxfan.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl Doesn't like XFree-4.0.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'll add another "me too" to seeing this problem, but definitely only under GNOME. It seemed to occur in any shell window, gnome terminal and eterm. I wasn't particularly fond of it anyhow and switched to KDE, which doesn't seem to have this problem at all. The only thing that changed between my config for gnome and kde was the exec gnome-session to exec startkde in .xsession. This was all logging in using xdm. Finally, I've seen this problem in both XFree 4.0.1 and 3.3.6. So I assume its something gnome doing. Hope this helps... Andrew Tulloch - Systems Administrator - Legalex Ltd andrew@cosa.uk-legal.net FreeBSD: The Power To Serve... On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Sean Lutner wrote: > Just as a "me too" I've been seeing this under 4.1-STABLE, with X 3.3.6 > using Eterm. > > > On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > > > In message <20000907181039Y.rklosh@rkl.org> Ryan Losh writes: > > : I've had this same question on my system. You didn't, by chance, > > : install GNOME, and are using gnome-session? I've noticed that > > : behavior with perl, killall, elm-ME+, in a gnome-terminal, but not > > : when run from the console. I just figured that the LC_CTYPE was being > > : exported by gnome-session somewhere, and was a bug in GNOME. I've > > : looked at the startx script, and it's not being set in there...If you > > : unset LC_CTYPE, the error messages go away... > > : > > : Any other ideas? > > > > There are two or three likely sources for the LC_CTYPE. First, it > > could be the X server. To see if this is the case, use the following > > .xinitrc: > > #!/bin/sh > > xterm > > and then do a printenv. I kinda doubt it as I don't see this on my > > systems here, but I use XFree86 3.3.6. > > > > Second, it could be coming gnome-terminal. You can test this out by > > changing the above script in the obvious way. Do a printenv as well. > > This likely is where the problem came from. I don't use kde, gnome, > > or anything more complex than twm + xterm or qvwm + xterm. > > > > In any event the make system likely should cope. > > > > Warner > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 2:15:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from euripides.enigma.ie (euripides.enigma.ie [194.106.143.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA49B37B422 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 02:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10055 invoked by uid 1009); 8 Sep 2000 09:15:47 -0000 From: "Nick Hilliard" Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:15:47 +0100 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache after 3.4 -> 4.1 upgrade Message-ID: <20000908101547.D9836@euripides.enigma.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Also, now when I try to start/test Apache, I get this: > > : seanmike@torg; sudo /usr/local/apache_1.3.12/bin/apachectl configtest > Syntax error on line 242 of /usr/local/apache_1.3.12/conf/httpd.conf: > Cannot load /usr/local/apache_1.3.12/libexec/libperl.so into server: > /usr/lib/libperl.so.3: Undefined symbol "setresuid" Looks like you need to recompile or re-install the apache port for 4.1. Nick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 2:16: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860F937B422 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 02:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13XKGI-000Dgq-00; Fri, 08 Sep 2000 11:15:54 +0200 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:15:54 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: "Eric P. Scott" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue Message-ID: <20000908111554.A52410@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200009080254.TAA52210@mail1.sirius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200009080254.TAA52210@mail1.sirius.com>; from eps@sirius.com on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 07:54:17PM -0700 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu 2000-09-07 (19:54), Eric P. Scott wrote: > csh is my interactive shell of choice, and tcsh is just different > enough to cause serious transition shock. What exact transition problems have you experienced? I'm sure if you actually contributed a list of changes, I can generate a csh.cshrc for all the old-timers who want it to work "exactly the way it always did". I could change the source so it acted the way you want, and yet we can provide an excellent UI to users of FreeBSD for only 300k! > What's wrong with small, simple, and functional? Nothing. That's one of the reasons 44bsd-csh was kept. > Why do I need 609K of feature bloat when a 279K executable does > everything I want? Everything _you_ want. Heck, I could do without all those aliases. Let's remove alias support from csh in FreeBSD! I don't even use csh, let's remove it totally! > Consider also that we're talking about the default shell for root > here; the most conservative choice minimizes the possibility of > unpleasant surprises. If I'm called in to perform disaster > recovery on someone else's server--or worse, asked to perform > telephone support--the last thing I want to trip over is some > junior sysadmin wannabe's customized .tcshrc that screws up > everything even more. And how does this differ from some junior sysadmin wannabe's customized .cshrc? If he's a junior sysadmin wannabe, you're going to have to tell him to type 'csh' anyway. Now just tell him to type 'csh -f', and it won't do any 'l33t K-r4d ~/.tcshrc reading. > But I stand by my opinion that replacing csh with tcsh in 4.1-RELEASE > was the single most ill-conceived action taken by the committers. Well. Firstly, this wasn't an action taken in a void by the evil committers who do everything behind the backs of the users. This was brought up on 6 April on a public forum, and the concensus was that it was worthwhile. Now, yet again, if you have a problem with the way things work when csh is invoked as 'csh', then report it, and don't bring it up arbitrarily on a mailing list. If you report it, we can fix it. It can function again the way you like. If you don't report it, then you don't get to complain. > I expect to continue recommending 3.5.1-RELEASE for all new > installations where it's hardware-compatible. (Why, oh why, > wasn't Adaptec 29160 support back-ported?) That's your decision. If you think the 300k hit is too big, and you can't be bothered to use the 44bsd-csh package, and you don't appreciate the fact we now have a _maintained_ csh-compatible csh with a UI that non-guru's can use, and you can't take the time to actually report your problems to the proper forums at all, and you're willing to live without numerous improvements and optimizations that have and will occur in the future _just_ because you can't be bothered putting in the effort to get it fixed, then that's what you think. Not much I can do about it, really. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 6:43: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from liam.london.sparza.com (liam.london.sparza.com [212.135.72.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B45F37B505 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 06:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hagop.london.sparza.com ([212.135.72.28]) by liam.london.sparza.com with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #3) id 13XOR8-0007V5-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2000 14:43:22 +0100 Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by hagop.london.sparza.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19038 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:42:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scot@london.sparza.com) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:42:53 +0100 (BST) From: Scot Elliott To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: NetGraph and transparent proxying Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I wasnt to implement a transparent proxy using Cisco's WWCP and Squid. The only docs I can find reckon I should patch the 4.x kernel - but a) this stopy my kernel compiling now and b) there seems to be some GRE capability in the Netgraph stuff. Does anyone know if I can get away with not using the patch and doing the same thing with the Netgraph system?.. Thanks Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 6:48:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quack.kfu.com (quack.kfu.com [205.178.90.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE98A37B422 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 06:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from morpheus.kfu.com (morpheus.kfu.com [205.178.90.230]) by quack.kfu.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14008; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 06:48:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from quack.kfu.com by morpheus.kfu.com with ESMTP (8.9.3//ident-1.0) id GAA42834; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 06:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39B8EE2B.9744AFE9@quack.kfu.com> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 06:48:27 -0700 From: Nick Sayer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , Gregory Bond , danh@gelatinous.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VPN? IPSEC? KAME? CIA? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Brandon D. Valentine" wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > >My company has implemented Microsoft RAS servers that are willing to > >speak PPTP tunnels. Is there a port or configuration that will > >support that from a FreeBSD client? > > ports/net/pptpclient Speaking as the fellow who contributed poptop, I am on the verge of marking it FORBIDDEN in favor of mpd-netgraph, since the latter can do the MPPE encryption, and I don't believe either of the other two can. I suspect this is the same for pptpclient as well. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 7: 5: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com (gadolinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6296537B422 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host62-6-66-155.btinternet.com ([62.6.66.155] helo=btinternet.com) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 13XOlu-0000Xp-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2000 15:04:51 +0100 Message-ID: <39B8EA14.D76BFDD2@btinternet.com> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 14:31:00 +0100 From: John Toon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: SHMSEG and general shared memory settings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Could I suggest that the generic kernel be changed from having a SHMSEG=9 (as in LINT) to something higher? This setting is totally useless if you're planning on running XFre86-4.0 with something like GNOME; you simply run out of shared memory segments, and consequently many programs just won't start up, issuing "X error of failed request". The SHMSEG setting is also one of the "undocumented" options in LINT, so consequently it was hard work trying to solve the problem. I have since compiled my custom kernel with SHMSEG=1024, and everything works beautifully. -- "I'm entirely unaccountable for any moments of sanity contained herein." :s/Windows/UNIX John Toon | j.a.toon@btinternet.com | "Sonnilon" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 7:37:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B578237B446 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA06175; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:37:52 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda06173; Fri Sep 8 07:37:33 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA03220; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdKm3218; Fri Sep 8 07:37:07 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) id e88Eb7t03189; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009081437.e88Eb7t03189@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdcM3183; Fri Sep 8 07:36:41 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: John Toon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SHMSEG and general shared memory settings In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Sep 2000 14:31:00 BST." <39B8EA14.D76BFDD2@btinternet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 07:36:41 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <39B8EA14.D76BFDD2@btinternet.com>, John Toon writes: > Hi, > > Could I suggest that the generic kernel be changed from having a > SHMSEG=9 (as in LINT) to something higher? > > This setting is totally useless if you're planning on running XFre86-4.0 > with something like GNOME; you simply run out of shared memory segments, > and consequently many programs just won't start up, issuing "X error of > failed request". The SHMSEG setting is also one of the "undocumented" > options in LINT, so consequently it was hard work trying to solve the > problem. > > I have since compiled my custom kernel with SHMSEG=1024, and everything > works beautifully. Should not parameters like this be in loader.conf? This would negate the need to build a new kernel when changing SYSV parameters. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 7:40:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from giganda.komkon.org (giganda.komkon.org [209.125.17.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EA337B422 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from str@localhost) by giganda.komkon.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA34920 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:40:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from str) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:40:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Igor Roshchin Message-Id: <200009081440.KAA34920@giganda.komkon.org> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: "high load" on a almost idle system. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I have a host running 4.0-RELEASE I've noticed that suddenly the load became more than 1, and it is sustained at that level for long time. I killed and restarted all processes that could've been producing the load. Now, I don't see any processes that could be the reason for such a load, (I am using "top" and "ps"), nor I see any unaccounted processes in /proc. host: [10:16] [140] ~#w 10:17AM up 63 days, 16:16, 1 user, load averages: 1.24, 1.34, 1.16 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT str p0 anotherhost Thu09AM - w There are just one or two connections to sendmail or/and pop3 server as shown by netstat, but those are short-term connections. Q.: 1. Is there any bug in 4.0 that could be responsible for indicating such relatively high load (in the absense of "active" processes") ? The ps and systat -vmstat outputs are below. systat -vmstat does not show much activity. Also: 2. Although it doesn't look like the host is compromized, but if it was, how can I check for "hidden" processes (assuming that the kernel was not changed (if hiding is possible in this case), and otherwise) ? Thanks, Igor PS. Please, Cc: to me your responses. systat -vmstat output: 1 users Load 1.18 1.11 1.09 Fri Sep 8 10:29 Mem:KB REAL VIRTUAL VN PAGER SWAP PAGER Tot Share Tot Share Free in out in out Act 4892 992 7012 1144 35560 count All 90384 1360 2488568 1672 pages zfod Interrupts Proc:r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt cow 231 total 6 10 1 26 231 5 1 15804 wire ata0 irq14 14792 act ahc0 irq9 0.3%Sys 3.0%Intr 0.0%User 0.0%Nice 96.7%Idl 59788 inact 3 xl0 irq11 | | | | | | | | | | cache fdc0 irq6 ++ 35560 free atkbd0 irq daefr sio0 irq4 Namei Name-cache Dir-cache prcfr sio1 irq3 Calls hits % hits % react 100 clk irq0 pdwak 128 rtc irq8 pdpgs Disks ad0 da0 da1 fd0 pass0 pass1 md0 intrn KB/t 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 6430 buf tps 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 dirtybuf MB/s 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 8403 desiredvnodes % busy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5483 numvnodes host: [10:13] [131] ~#ps -ajxww USER PID PPID PGID SESS JOBC STAT TT TIME COMMAND root 0 0 0 340a00 0 DLs ?? 0:09.61 (swapper) root 1 0 1 a18740 0 ILs ?? 0:08.85 /sbin/init -- root 2 0 0 340a00 0 DL ?? 0:22.66 (pagedaemon) root 3 0 0 340a00 0 DL ?? 0:00.00 (vmdaemon) root 4 0 0 340a00 0 DL ?? 0:18.40 (bufdaemon) root 5 0 0 340a00 0 DL ?? 53:58.13 (syncer) root 33 1 33 a57e40 0 Is ?? 0:00.00 adjkerntz -i daemon 127 1 127 a75d00 0 Is ?? 0:00.05 /usr/sbin/portmap root 147 1 147 a75240 0 Ss ?? 6:06.07 inetd -wW root 149 1 149 a75640 0 Is ?? 1:15.27 cron root 152 1 152 a75540 0 Is ?? 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/lpd -l root 2055 1 2055 a874c0 0 Is ?? 0:24.49 /usr/sbin/sshd root 10158 2055 2055 a874c0 0 S ?? 0:03.94 sshd: str@ttyp0 (sshd) root 15400 1 15400 c2dd40 0 Ss ?? 4:24.74 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25 (sendmail) root 19697 1 19697 c2dc80 0 Ss ?? 0:03.57 /usr/sbin/named root 19715 1 19715 a70040 0 S; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cstone.net ([209.145.93.143]) by Astrovan.cstone.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59789U13500L1350S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:40:40 -0400 Message-ID: <39B8FC4C.8B4DE1B4@cstone.net> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 10:48:44 -0400 From: Sean Michael Whipkey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nick Hilliard Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache after 3.4 -> 4.1 upgrade References: <20000908101547.D9836@euripides.enigma.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nick Hilliard wrote: > > > Also, now when I try to start/test Apache, I get this: > > > > : seanmike@torg; sudo /usr/local/apache_1.3.12/bin/apachectl configtest > > Syntax error on line 242 of /usr/local/apache_1.3.12/conf/httpd.conf: > > Cannot load /usr/local/apache_1.3.12/libexec/libperl.so into server: > > /usr/lib/libperl.so.3: Undefined symbol "setresuid" > > Looks like you need to recompile or re-install the apache port for 4.1. That is what it looks like. I have to say that sucks, though. We use a rather involved version of Apache for a web server, and part of the reason why I was upgrading the kernel instead of just reinstalling and restoring was so that I wouldn't have to recompoile packages such as Apache. :-( It's only mod_perl that isn't working, it seems. Of course, it's either work on that or work on Act!, so you can guess which I'll be hacking on. :-) SeanMike -- SeanMike Whipkey - Damnit. Where's my witty repartee? "Ow! Ow! Ow! I had to go after mutants, didn't I? I couldn't just attack Napster, nooooo. I had to attack freaks that know kung fu." - http://ter.air0day.com/xmen.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 7:51:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACEA37B42C for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net. [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA42087; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:51:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <39B8FCE0.A1C65570@thehousleys.net> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 10:51:12 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SHMSEG and general shared memory settings References: <200009081437.e88Eb7t03189@cwsys.cwsent.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms28CD0BE7A5A52F2011B4B57E" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms28CD0BE7A5A52F2011B4B57E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > In message <39B8EA14.D76BFDD2@btinternet.com>, John Toon writes: > > Hi, > > > > Could I suggest that the generic kernel be changed from having a > > SHMSEG=9 (as in LINT) to something higher? > > > > This setting is totally useless if you're planning on running XFre86-4.0 > > with something like GNOME; you simply run out of shared memory segments, > > and consequently many programs just won't start up, issuing "X error of > > failed request". The SHMSEG setting is also one of the "undocumented" > > options in LINT, so consequently it was hard work trying to solve the > > problem. > > > > I have since compiled my custom kernel with SHMSEG=1024, and everything > > works beautifully. > Where is there docs on each of these? After sequence of errors ports/misc/amanda24 won't flush failed dumps due to shmget error. 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Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id IAA06280; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:11:53 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda06278; Fri Sep 8 08:11:49 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA03444; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpduJ3442; Fri Sep 8 08:11:07 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) id e88FB7q03337; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009081511.e88FB7q03337@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdAb3331; Fri Sep 8 08:10:33 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: James Housley Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SHMSEG and general shared memory settings In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Sep 2000 10:51:12 EDT." <39B8FCE0.A1C65570@thehousleys.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 08:10:33 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <39B8FCE0.A1C65570@thehousleys.net>, James Housley writes: > This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. > > --------------ms28CD0BE7A5A52F2011B4B57E > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > > In message <39B8EA14.D76BFDD2@btinternet.com>, John Toon writes: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Could I suggest that the generic kernel be changed from having a > > > SHMSEG=9 (as in LINT) to something higher? > > > > > > This setting is totally useless if you're planning on running XFre86-4.0 > > > with something like GNOME; you simply run out of shared memory segments, > > > and consequently many programs just won't start up, issuing "X error of > > > failed request". The SHMSEG setting is also one of the "undocumented" > > > options in LINT, so consequently it was hard work trying to solve the > > > problem. > > > > > > I have since compiled my custom kernel with SHMSEG=1024, and everything > > > works beautifully. > > > Where is there docs on each of these? After sequence of errors > ports/misc/amanda24 won't flush failed dumps due to shmget error. I haven't seen any FreeBSD doc about any SYSV parameters. Personally, I use the O'Rielly performance and tuning book, though working in an Oracle ghetto does help understand the parameters. Sun has some good papers describing them as well. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 8:19: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jaka.isd.state.in.us (jaka.isd.state.in.us [199.8.63.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DD237B423 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaka.isd.state.in.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jaka.isd.state.in.us (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA52468 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:19:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200009081519.KAA52468@jaka.isd.state.in.us> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: version updates with no changes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 10:19:05 -0500 From: "Kevin T. Likes" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been noticing this lately, but I don't know how long this has been going on. I've been trying to figure out how to get /etc/periodic/daily/100.clean-disks to work. I was getting ready to send in a problem report, but before I did I cvsupped to see if there was a newer version of the file which may have fixed my problem. Sure enough, the cvsup had a newer version of the file (minor revision changed from 1.3.2.1 to 1.3.2.2). I looked at the file, and didn't see any obvious changes, so I tried diff. The only difference in the file was the version number line. No whitespace, no variable names, nothing else, just the version number and date. The last couple of updates I have done, when using mergemaster to fix my /etc directory, I have noted a number of similar cases each time. Is there some reason for these version numbers to change even if the files haven't? That seems to only create extra work for admins doing updates. (Not to mention annoying them when they are running mergemaster. :-) ) --Kevin T. Likes p.s. If it makes a difference, I'm tracking RELENG_4. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 8:23:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (ppp207.max-01.intercom.com [198.143.0.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A0037B443 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA31872; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:42:38 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17520; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:23:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200009081523.LAA17520@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:23:27 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: SHMSEG and general shared memory settings To: James Housley Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <39B8FCE0.A1C65570@thehousleys.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG = Where is there docs on each of these? After sequence of errors = ports/misc/amanda24 won't flush failed dumps due to shmget error. NO!! Increasing this will just postpone the errors -- amanda does leak shared memory in the error-cases and until it is fixed, you need to use `ipcs' to list and `ipcrm' to remove the resources allocated by the `amanda' (or `operator') user. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 9: 3:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC96237B424; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17391; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:59:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200009081559.LAA17391@world.std.com> To: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello -stable: Now that we have the "native" RSA implementation/library in the main source tree, what procedure(s) do we (tracking -stable/RELENG_4) need to do to install this properly? I guess what I'm asking is how do we deal with the "previous" port-installed RSAREF? As a "sample answer," should we do something like going to /usr/ports/.../rsaref & doing a "make deinstall" before installing the new world? Thanks, -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 9: 6: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FE537B423 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13XQf9-0000lB-00; Fri, 08 Sep 2000 09:05:59 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:05:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: John Toon Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SHMSEG and general shared memory settings In-Reply-To: <39B8EA14.D76BFDD2@btinternet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, John Toon wrote: > Could I suggest that the generic kernel be changed from having a > SHMSEG=9 (as in LINT) to something higher? ... > failed request". The SHMSEG setting is also one of the "undocumented" > options in LINT, so consequently it was hard work trying to solve the It is is configurable via sysctl now, so there is no need to compile it into the kernel. Those options will likely be removed from LINT in the future. Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 9:20: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A497537B43E for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (v-ger [158.227.6.179]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA15894; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 18:19:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04903; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 18:11:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Message-ID: <39B90F99.7AC3EAC7@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 18:11:05 +0200 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del Pais Vasco - Dpto. de Electricidad y Electronica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: es-ES, es, en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: John Toon , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SHMSEG and general shared memory settings References: <200009081437.e88Eb7t03189@cwsys.cwsent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > In message <39B8EA14.D76BFDD2@btinternet.com>, John Toon writes: > > > > Could I suggest that the generic kernel be changed from having a > > SHMSEG=9 (as in LINT) to something higher? > > > > This setting is totally useless if you're planning on running XFre86-4.0 > > with something like GNOME; you simply run out of shared memory segments, > > and consequently many programs just won't start up, issuing "X error of > > failed request". The SHMSEG setting is also one of the "undocumented" > > options in LINT, so consequently it was hard work trying to solve the > > problem. > > > > I have since compiled my custom kernel with SHMSEG=1024, and everything > > works beautifully. > > Should not parameters like this be in loader.conf? This would negate > the need to build a new kernel when changing SYSV parameters. > There are some sysctl tunables for SHM. I have these changed in /etc/sysctl.conf (I am using XFree86 4.0.1, Gnome 1.2 and Sawfish 0.30.3 with no problems): kern.ipc.shmseg=128 kern.ipc.shmall=2048 kern.ipc.shmmax=8388608 Cheers, -- JMA ****** Jose M. Alcaide // jose@we.lc.ehu.es // jmas@FreeBSD.org ****** ** "Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers" -- Leonard Brandwein ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 10: 8:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB51437B422 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA377876; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:08:16 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200009080254.TAA52210@mail1.sirius.com> References: <200009080254.TAA52210@mail1.sirius.com> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:09:54 -0400 To: eps@sirius.com (Eric P. Scott) From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: NO_TCSH issue Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:54 PM -0700 9/7/00, Eric P. Scott wrote: >But I stand by my >opinion that replacing csh with tcsh in 4.1-RELEASE was the >single most ill-conceived action taken by the committers. My opinion is that the new tcsh is fine. Other opinions have also been tabulated. Your opinion is noted, but will not carry the day, because it is still only one person's opinion and the overall votes are against you. Perhaps the csh/tcsh move IS the worst action taken on the way to release 4.1, but if so then the people behind the 4.1 release should be mighty pleased that the WORST thing they did was still a good thing. Just MO. >I expect to continue recommending 3.5.1-RELEASE for all new >installations where it's hardware-compatible. (Why, oh why, >wasn't Adaptec 29160 support back-ported?) There are a lot of improvements in the newer releases, even for hardware that is supported by 3.5.1. At this point, I wouldn't run anything less than 4.1, unless constrained by some resource (memory, disk space, whatever). You have the source from 3.5.1. If this csh/tcsh change is the ONLY reason you are not recommending 4.1, then I would think your customers would be better off with 4.1 plus the old version version of csh. There is no one who is going to force you or your customers to run this new csh/tcsh if you do not want to run it. ps: is this the same EPS from NeXTSTEP/RBrowser days? --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 10:25:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960CB37B42C for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (root@scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id KAA05811 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phoenix (res-2567.usc.edu [128.125.247.54]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with SMTP id KAA02278 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:25:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Khairuddin Ghani" To: Subject: full /var, but minimal content. Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:24:54 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. There seems to be a problem with a machine of mine running 4.0-RELEASE. /var seems to be completely full, but du(1) only shows around 1% of it being used. Here's df(1) output: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 992239 24384 888476 3% / /dev/ad0s1f 992239 4620 908240 1% /tmp /dev/ad0s1g 5706541 964351 4285667 18% /usr /dev/ad0s1e 992239 932335 -19475 102% /var procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc Here's du(1) output on /var: 0B ./account 1.0K ./at/jobs 2.0K ./at/spool 3.0K ./at 14K ./backups 1.0K ./crash 3.0K ./cron/tabs 4.0K ./cron 4.0K ./db/pkg/tcsh-6.09.00 4.0K ./db/pkg/pine-4.21 3.0K ./db/pkg/mm-1.0.12 4.0K ./db/pkg/bash-2.03 42K ./db/pkg/apache+mod_ssl-1.3.12+2.6.2 3.0K ./db/pkg/rsaref-2.0 3.0K ./db/pkg/pidentd-2.8.5 4.0K ./db/pkg/libtool-1.3.3 6.0K ./db/pkg/mysql-client-3.22.32 13K ./db/pkg/mysql-server-3.22.32 18K ./db/pkg/qmail-1.03 3.0K ./db/pkg/procmail-3.14 3.0K ./db/pkg/gmake-3.78.1 84K ./db/pkg/emacs-19.34b 4.0K ./db/pkg/p5-Data-ShowTable-3.3 3.0K ./db/pkg/p5-Net-Daemon-0.29 3.0K ./db/pkg/p5-PlRPC-0.2012 7.0K ./db/pkg/p5-DBI-1.13 4.0K ./db/pkg/p5-Mysql-modules-1.2210 234K ./db/pkg 65K ./db/mysql/mysql 66K ./db/mysql/test 12K ./db/mysql/hronline 84K ./db/mysql 929K ./db 5.1M ./log 1.8M ./mail 1.0K ./msgs 7.9M ./preserve 0B ./run/emacs/lock 1.0K ./run/emacs 67K ./run/sqwebmail 68K ./run 8.0M ./rwho 0B ./spool/lock 1.0K ./spool/lpd 16K ./spool/mqueue 19K ./spool/opielocks 0B ./spool/output/lpd 1.0K ./spool/output 0B ./spool/uucp/.Preserve 1.0K ./spool/uucp/.Sequence 2.0K ./spool/uucp/.Status 3.0K ./spool/uucp/.Temp 4.0K ./spool/uucp/.Xqtdir 5.0K ./spool/uucp 28K ./spool/uucppublic 29K ./spool/apache 30K ./spool 6.0K ./tmp/vi.recover 7.0K ./tmp 18K ./yp 43K ./games/hackdir/save 44K ./games/hackdir 0B ./games/larn 14K ./games/phantasia 61K ./games 130K ./qmail/doc 62K ./qmail/configure 5.0K ./qmail/control/backup 12K ./qmail/control 8.0K ./qmail/users 579K ./qmail/bin 11K ./qmail/boot 0B ./qmail/alias 0B ./qmail/queue/pid 1.0K ./qmail/queue/intd 2.0K ./qmail/queue/todo 3.0K ./qmail/queue/bounce 0B ./qmail/queue/mess/0 1.0K ./qmail/queue/mess/1 2.0K ./qmail/queue/mess/2 3.0K ./qmail/queue/mess/3 4.0K ./qmail/queue/mess/4 5.0K ./qmail/queue/mess/5 6.0K ./qmail/queue/mess/6 7.0K ./qmail/queue/mess/7 8.0K ./qmail/queue/mess/8 9.0K ./qmail/queue/mess/9 10.0K ./qmail/queue/mess/10 11K ./qmail/queue/mess/11 12K ./qmail/queue/mess/12 1.0K ./qmail/queue/mess/13 1.0K ./qmail/queue/mess/14 17K ./qmail/queue/mess/15 18K ./qmail/queue/mess/16 19K ./qmail/queue/mess/17 20K ./qmail/queue/mess/18 21K ./qmail/queue/mess/19 22K ./qmail/queue/mess/20 23K ./qmail/queue/mess/21 24K ./qmail/queue/mess/22 25K ./qmail/queue/mess 0B ./qmail/queue/info/0 1.0K ./qmail/queue/info/1 2.0K ./qmail/queue/info/2 3.0K ./qmail/queue/info/3 4.0K ./qmail/queue/info/4 5.0K ./qmail/queue/info/5 6.0K ./qmail/queue/info/6 7.0K ./qmail/queue/info/7 8.0K ./qmail/queue/info/8 9.0K ./qmail/queue/info/9 10.0K ./qmail/queue/info/10 11K ./qmail/queue/info/11 12K ./qmail/queue/info/12 1.0K ./qmail/queue/info/13 1.0K ./qmail/queue/info/14 17K ./qmail/queue/info/15 18K ./qmail/queue/info/16 19K ./qmail/queue/info/17 20K ./qmail/queue/info/18 21K ./qmail/queue/info/19 22K ./qmail/queue/info/20 23K ./qmail/queue/info/21 24K ./qmail/queue/info/22 25K ./qmail/queue/info 0B ./qmail/queue/local/0 1.0K ./qmail/queue/local/1 2.0K ./qmail/queue/local/2 3.0K ./qmail/queue/local/3 4.0K ./qmail/queue/local/4 5.0K ./qmail/queue/local/5 6.0K ./qmail/queue/local/6 7.0K ./qmail/queue/local/7 8.0K ./qmail/queue/local/8 9.0K ./qmail/queue/local/9 10.0K ./qmail/queue/local/10 11K ./qmail/queue/local/11 12K ./qmail/queue/local/12 13K ./qmail/queue/local/13 14K ./qmail/queue/local/14 15K ./qmail/queue/local/15 16K ./qmail/queue/local/16 17K ./qmail/queue/local/17 18K ./qmail/queue/local/18 19K ./qmail/queue/local/19 20K ./qmail/queue/local/20 21K ./qmail/queue/local/21 22K ./qmail/queue/local/22 23K ./qmail/queue/local 0B ./qmail/queue/remote/0 1.0K ./qmail/queue/remote/1 2.0K ./qmail/queue/remote/2 3.0K ./qmail/queue/remote/3 4.0K ./qmail/queue/remote/4 5.0K ./qmail/queue/remote/5 6.0K ./qmail/queue/remote/6 7.0K ./qmail/queue/remote/7 8.0K ./qmail/queue/remote/8 9.0K ./qmail/queue/remote/9 10.0K ./qmail/queue/remote/10 11K ./qmail/queue/remote/11 12K ./qmail/queue/remote/12 1.0K ./qmail/queue/remote/13 1.0K ./qmail/queue/remote/14 17K ./qmail/queue/remote/15 18K ./qmail/queue/remote/16 19K ./qmail/queue/remote/17 20K ./qmail/queue/remote/18 21K ./qmail/queue/remote/19 22K ./qmail/queue/remote/20 23K ./qmail/queue/remote/21 24K ./qmail/queue/remote/22 25K ./qmail/queue/remote 1.0K ./qmail/queue/lock 108K ./qmail/queue 12K ./qmail/man/man1 21K ./qmail/man/man5 4.0K ./qmail/man/man7 33K ./qmail/man/man8 74K ./qmail/man 994K ./qmail 9.1M . 9.1M total Hope someone can help. Thanks all. :) Best regards, Khairuddin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 10:30:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB1037B440 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (root@scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id KAA13301 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phoenix (res-2567.usc.edu [128.125.247.54]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with SMTP id KAA07089 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:30:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Khairuddin Ghani" To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: FW: full /var, but minimal content. (pls ignore) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:30:12 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ah, my bad. wrong list. -_- : -----Original Message----- : From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG : [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Khairuddin Ghani : Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:25 AM : To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG : Subject: full /var, but minimal content. : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 10:33:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (ZSEA.zp.ua [212.8.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA2637B505 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from laa@localhost) by mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02396; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 20:31:03 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 20:31:03 +0300 From: "Alexandr A. Listopad" To: Khairuddin Ghani Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: full /var, but minimal content. Message-ID: <20000908203103.C2178@laa.zp.ua> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from abdulgha@usc.edu on Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:24:54AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:24:54AM -0700, Khairuddin Ghani wrote: > Hello. > > There seems to be a problem with a machine of mine running 4.0-RELEASE. /var > seems to be completely full, but du(1) only shows around 1% of it being used. > > Here's df(1) output: > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a 992239 24384 888476 3% / > /dev/ad0s1f 992239 4620 908240 1% /tmp > /dev/ad0s1g 5706541 964351 4285667 18% /usr > /dev/ad0s1e 992239 932335 -19475 102% /var > procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc > > Here's du(1) output on /var: what about ``du -sk /var'' ? ;-) > 0B ./account > 1.0K ./at/jobs [skip ~200 lines] > 25K ./qmail/queue/remote > 1.0K ./qmail/queue/lock > 108K ./qmail/queue > 12K ./qmail/man/man1 > 21K ./qmail/man/man5 > 4.0K ./qmail/man/man7 > 33K ./qmail/man/man8 > 74K ./qmail/man > 994K ./qmail > 9.1M . > 9.1M total this total is for /var/* files, not for all dirs recursively! > > Hope someone can help. Thanks all. :) > > Best regards, Khairuddin. -- Laa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 10:54:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DC537B505 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp26130024.columbus.rr.com [24.26.130.24]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03502; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:53:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39B928EE.1EEE0729@columbus.rr.com> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 13:59:10 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Khairuddin Ghani Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: full /var, but minimal content. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Khairuddin Ghani wrote: > > Hello. > > There seems to be a problem with a machine of mine running 4.0-RELEASE. /var > seems to be completely full, but du(1) only shows around 1% of it being used. > > Here's df(1) output: > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a 992239 24384 888476 3% / > /dev/ad0s1f 992239 4620 908240 1% /tmp > /dev/ad0s1g 5706541 964351 4285667 18% /usr > /dev/ad0s1e 992239 932335 -19475 102% /var > procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc > > Here's du(1) output on /var: > 0B ./account > 9.1M . > 9.1M total > > Hope someone can help. Thanks all. :) I remember a conversation about this problem earlier and the solution was that used space wasn't truely reclaimed until all open descripters to it were closed (or something like that ...) Try kill -HUP ing the daemons that are logging to that drive and/or creating files on it. -Bill -- FreeBSD ('BSD'): No battles to the death are recalled. It is a small Daemon wearing sneakers. It is normally found on Internet servers and powerful desktops, and moves very quickly. A kill of this poweful creature is enough to tick off any sysadmin. It is highly magical, having the power to serve. It resists DoS and SYN flood attacks. Nothing is known about its attack. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 11:24:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.6.9.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B85737B422 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andom1.an.hp.com (andom1.an.hp.com [15.4.128.104]) by msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819553DF; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 12:24:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by andom1.an.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36914B5; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id LAA20660; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009081824.LAA20660@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Bill Moran Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: full /var, but minimal content. Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 08 Sep 2000 13:59:10 EDT." <39B928EE.1EEE0729@columbus.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 11:24:08 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Moran wrote: > > There seems to be a problem with a machine of mine running 4.0-RELEASE. /va > r > > seems to be completely full, but du(1) only shows around 1% of it being use > d. > > I remember a conversation about this problem earlier and the solution > was that used space wasn't truely reclaimed until all open descripters > to it were closed (or something like that ...) In addition, you'll get results like the above if you run du(1) as non-root, if some directories aren't accessible by the user as which you run du(1). -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 13: 3:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11D437B509; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA37359; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:03:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:03:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated In-Reply-To: <200009081559.LAA17391@world.std.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > Hello -stable: > > Now that we have the "native" RSA implementation/library in > the main source tree, what procedure(s) do we (tracking > -stable/RELENG_4) need to do to install this properly? I > guess what I'm asking is how do we deal with the "previous" > port-installed RSAREF? 'make world' > As a "sample answer," should we do something like going to > /usr/ports/.../rsaref & doing a "make deinstall" before > installing the new world? You can if you like, but it won't be used for anything any more, so you can remove at your leisure. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 13:31:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1701837B424; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA42543; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:31:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Kevin T. Likes" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: version updates with no changes In-Reply-To: <200009081519.KAA52468@jaka.isd.state.in.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Kevin T. Likes wrote: > I've been trying to figure out how to get > /etc/periodic/daily/100.clean-disks to work. I was getting ready to > send in a problem report, but before I did I cvsupped to see if there > was a newer version of the file which may have fixed my problem. Sure > enough, the cvsup had a newer version of the file (minor revision > changed from 1.3.2.1 to 1.3.2.2). I looked at the file, and didn't > see any obvious changes, so I tried diff. The only difference in the > file was the version number line. No whitespace, no variable names, > nothing else, just the version number and date. Index: 100.clean-disks =================================================================== RCS file: /usr2/ncvs//src/etc/periodic/daily/100.clean-disks,v retrieving revision 1.3.2.1 retrieving revision 1.3.2.2 diff -u -r1.3.2.1 -r1.3.2.2 --- 100.clean-disks 2000/08/08 18:05:35 1.3.2.1 +++ 100.clean-disks 2000/08/25 18:52:36 1.3.2.2 @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ #!/bin/sh # -# $FreeBSD: src/etc/periodic/daily/100.clean-disks,v 1.3.2.1 2000/08/08 18:05:35 brian Exp $ +# $FreeBSD: src/etc/periodic/daily/100.clean-disks,v 1.3.2.2 2000/08/25 18:52:36 brian Exp $ # # Remove garbage files more than $daily_clean_disks_days days old # @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ case "$daily_clean_disks_enable" in [Yy][Ee][Ss]) - if [ -n "$daily_clean_disks_days" -a -n "$daily_clean_disk_files" ] + if [ -n "$daily_clean_disks_days" -a -n "$daily_clean_disks_files" ] then echo "" echo "Removing old temporary files:" Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 13:41:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C4037B509 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA35971 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 03:40:48 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 03:40:47 +0700 (NSS) From: Max Khon To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: remote 3.5 -> 4.1 source upgrade Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, there! today I have successfully upgraded one 3.5-STABLE server to 4.1-STABLE: 1) make buildworld 2) make buildkernel KERNEL=GENERIC 3) make installkernel KERNEL=GENERIC 4) reboot (yes, system will go into multy-user) do not forget to disable ipfw before reboot if you use it 5) install install-info by hand (don't know whether this is really needed, anyway you can install it by hand if installworld will fail later) 6) make installworld 7) MAKEDEV, mergemaster, edit /etc/fstab, whatever, the last reboot as you can see this is much simpler than the procedure described in /usr/src/UPDATING /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 13:42:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jaka.isd.state.in.us (jaka.isd.state.in.us [199.8.63.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3F537B440; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaka.isd.state.in.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jaka.isd.state.in.us (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA66786; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:42:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200009082042.PAA66786@jaka.isd.state.in.us> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: version updates with no changes In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 08 Sep 2000 13:31:33 MST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 15:42:19 -0500 From: "Kevin T. Likes" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Hits head with hand] Oops. I forgot I'd sent in that problem report, and had put in the change manually. Okay, bad example. :-) But that's only on this one file. The last couple of times I've run mergemaster, I've seen files come up where the only change was the revision id. Of course, the real reason is probably someone checking it in without a fix they thought they'd put in (understandable as a small percentage). Bound to happen. By the way, has anyone gotten this script to actually delete files? I've been trying to debug why it won't work on my system, and the best I can figure out is that 1) it excludes everything (at lease the find2perl version does an lstat and excludes all files with any dev number) and 2) it wants files to match all patterns in a list instead of just one. But I'm probably missing something really simple. (Given the spelling mistake which would prevent it from running, I wonder if everyone is just leaving it off by default.) --Kevin T. Likes In message , Kri s Kennaway writes: >On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Kevin T. Likes wrote: > >> I've been trying to figure out how to get >> /etc/periodic/daily/100.clean-disks to work. I was getting ready to >> send in a problem report, but before I did I cvsupped to see if there >> was a newer version of the file which may have fixed my problem. Sure >> enough, the cvsup had a newer version of the file (minor revision >> changed from 1.3.2.1 to 1.3.2.2). I looked at the file, and didn't >> see any obvious changes, so I tried diff. The only difference in the >> file was the version number line. No whitespace, no variable names, >> nothing else, just the version number and date. > >Index: 100.clean-disks >=================================================================== >RCS file: /usr2/ncvs//src/etc/periodic/daily/100.clean-disks,v >retrieving revision 1.3.2.1 >retrieving revision 1.3.2.2 >diff -u -r1.3.2.1 -r1.3.2.2 >--- 100.clean-disks 2000/08/08 18:05:35 1.3.2.1 >+++ 100.clean-disks 2000/08/25 18:52:36 1.3.2.2 >@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ > #!/bin/sh > # >-# $FreeBSD: src/etc/periodic/daily/100.clean-disks,v 1.3.2.1 2000/08/08 >18:05:35 brian Exp $ >+# $FreeBSD: src/etc/periodic/daily/100.clean-disks,v 1.3.2.2 2000/08/25 >18:52:36 brian Exp $ > # > # Remove garbage files more than $daily_clean_disks_days days old > # >@@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ > > case "$daily_clean_disks_enable" in > [Yy][Ee][Ss]) >- if [ -n "$daily_clean_disks_days" -a -n "$daily_clean_disk_files" ] >+ if [ -n "$daily_clean_disks_days" -a -n "$daily_clean_disks_files" ] > then > echo "" > echo "Removing old temporary files:" > >Kris > >-- >In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 13:56:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BDD37B505; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA46622; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:56:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:56:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Kevin T. Likes" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: version updates with no changes In-Reply-To: <200009082042.PAA66786@jaka.isd.state.in.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Kevin T. Likes wrote: > But that's only on this one file. The last couple of times I've run > mergemaster, > I've seen files come up where the only change was the revision id. Of course, > the > real reason is probably someone checking it in without a fix they thought > they'd > put in (understandable as a small percentage). Bound to happen. What you might be seeing is someone committing a fix, then backing it out again. If you go from x to x+2 you see no apparent change but if you had updated to x+1 first you would have. Don't worry about it, CVS usually (well, sometimes) knows what it's doing :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 15:21:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from timingpdc.timing.com (timingpdc.timing.com [206.168.13.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471AD37B50C for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmidas.timing.com ([206.168.13.217]) by timingpdc.timing.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 103-49575U100L2S100) with ESMTP id AAA822; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 16:26:16 -0600 Received: (from jhein@localhost) by xmidas.timing.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15071; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 16:20:39 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: xmidas.timing.com: jhein set sender to jhein@xmidas using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14777.26166.970965.944640@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 16:20:38 -0600 (MDT) From: "John E. Hein" To: mi@aldan.algebra.com Cc: James Housley , Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SHMSEG and general shared memory settings In-Reply-To: <200009081523.LAA17520@misha.privatelabs.com> References: <39B8FCE0.A1C65570@thehousleys.net> <200009081523.LAA17520@misha.privatelabs.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.4.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote at 11:23 -0400 on Sep 8: > = Where is there docs on each of these? After sequence of errors > = ports/misc/amanda24 won't flush failed dumps due to shmget error. > > NO!! Increasing this will just postpone the errors -- amanda does leak > shared memory in the error-cases and until it is fixed, you need to use > `ipcs' to list and `ipcrm' to remove the resources allocated by the > `amanda' (or `operator') user. Fixed in amanda-2.4.2 (available via cvs from sourceforge)... Revision 1.47.2.12 Wed Jul 19 00:17:38 2000 UTC (7 weeks, 2 days ago) by jrjackson Branch: amanda-242-branch Changes since 1.47.2.11: +3 -1 lines Diff to previous 1.47.2.11 to branchpoint 1.47 next main 1.48 Detach and destroy shared memory areas on an error condition. Found by Patrik Andersin . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 15:43:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tomsbase.homeip.net (p3EE20E84.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.226.14.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A425337B424 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by tomsbase.homeip.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e890elS20927; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 00:40:47 GMT From: Thomas Koper Message-Id: <200009090040.e890elS20927@tomsbase.homeip.net> Subject: Re: XFree86 4 and DRI with voodoo3 To: cokane@one.net (Coleman Kane) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 00:40:46 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20000907222313.A10019@cokane.yi.org> from "Coleman Kane" at Sep 07, 2000 10:23:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Two possibilities: > 1) You are not loading the tdfx.ko that can be built from the XFree86 source > tree. How do I do that? I tried to built it manualy but I'm not sure if I'm doing this right, because the build fails. What i did: I extracted the src files, and went to the directory ./programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm/kernel/tdfx typed in make. And thats it I'm not that expert with compiling something, so I'm quite sure that I'm doing something wrong. > 2) You are running in a resolution that your card does not support for GL. I'm running in 1024x768 with 16bit color depth. This should be supported, or? > I have a Matrox G200 that works in FreeBSD for DRI. Did you have to do something else from doing a make install in the ports? Because that was what I did. regards Thomas Koper To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 18:57: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from manatee.mammalia.org (manatee.mammalia.org [216.231.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB3337B424 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 18:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by manatee.mammalia.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 725BC11CF2E; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 18:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 18:56:58 -0700 From: R Joseph Wright To: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated Message-ID: <20000908185658.A6051@mammalia.org> References: <200009081559.LAA17391@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.org on Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 01:03:37PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG And Kris Kennaway spoke: > On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > > > Hello -stable: > > > > Now that we have the "native" RSA implementation/library in > > the main source tree, what procedure(s) do we (tracking > > -stable/RELENG_4) need to do to install this properly? I > > guess what I'm asking is how do we deal with the "previous" > > port-installed RSAREF? > > 'make world' > > > As a "sample answer," should we do something like going to > > /usr/ports/.../rsaref & doing a "make deinstall" before > > installing the new world? > > You can if you like, but it won't be used for anything any more, so you > can remove at your leisure. > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe Will USA_RESIDENT continue to be used? Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 19: 2:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D604837B43E; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 19:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA86532; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 19:02:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 19:02:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: R Joseph Wright Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated In-Reply-To: <20000908185658.A6051@mammalia.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote: > Will USA_RESIDENT continue to be used? Possibly in ports, but theres no need for it in the src tree. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 8 20:38:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.catseye.net (dsl-64-34-131-193.telocity.com [64.34.131.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8929F37B50C for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 20:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13911 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Sep 2000 03:38:45 -0000 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 22:38:45 -0500 From: Timothy Legant To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl Doesn't like XFree-4.0.1 Message-ID: <20000908223845.A13879@skitty.catseye.net> Reply-To: Timothy Legant Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000907181039Y.rklosh@rkl.org> <00090521085201.35453@sniper.domtek.fr> <200009080207.UAA49324@harmony.village.org> <20000907235745S.rklosh@rkl.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000907235745S.rklosh@rkl.org>; from rklosh@rkl.org on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 11:57:45PM -0500 X-Editor: Vim (http://www.vim.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 11:57:45PM -0500, Ryan Losh wrote: [snip...] > I tested that (.xinitrc with *ONLY* a gnome-terminal), and again, I > don't see the LC_CTYPE var getting set. > > I took it one step further: I did a startx with the following > .xinitrc: > > #!/bin/sh > ktrace gnome-session > > I looked for "en_US" in *EVERY* file that gets opened during a startx, > and I discovered that "LC_CTYPE" and "en_US" are *HARDCODED* into the > libgnomeui.so.4 file/shared library. I would say without reservation > that "THIS is where the LC_CTYPE is being set." Therefore, I need to > read the FreeBSD handbook and see how one goes about reporting a bug > in the ports (gnomelibs-1.2.4, to be exact). I am not an expert, but > I don't think that hardcoding this value in a shared library is "The > Right Way To Get The Job Done (TM)" I haven't looked at the GNOME source, so I can't speak to whether they're hard-coding anything or not. However, whatever they're doing, they seem to do *only* if you haven't explicitly set the i18n stuff in your environment. I had the same problem - practically every app running under GNOME/XFree86 4.0.1/FreeBSD 4.1-S hollered about the locale. I finally found the i18n section in the handbook (where else!), read it carefully and opted for the preferred method of setting these variables, through the login class. I created an "american" class in /etc/login.conf (there is an example "russian" class) and set my users' class (in master.passwd, using vipw) to "american" (no quotes). I haven't seen the error message since. My "american" class looks like this: # # American Users Accounts. Setup proper environment variables # american:American English Users:\ :charset=ISO-8859-1:\ :lang=en_US.ISO_8859-1:\ :tc=default: Note that, according to the handbook and bolstered by my experience, all you need to set are the "charset" and "lang" variables. > Ryan > rklosh@rkl.org Hope this is of some help. Tim -- Timothy H. Legant thl@catseye.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 0: 1:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F3137B505; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 00:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13Xeal-0005kD-00; Sat, 09 Sep 2000 06:58:23 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e896xGf00656; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 08:59:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 08:59:16 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Kris Kennaway Cc: R Joseph Wright , freebsd-stable Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated Message-ID: <20000909085916.B542@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20000908185658.A6051@mammalia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@freebsd.org on Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 07:02:25PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 07:02:25PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote: > > > Will USA_RESIDENT continue to be used? > > Possibly in ports, but theres no need for it in the src tree. make buildworld whines when it is not set. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@freebsd.org Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 1:26:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE04437B449; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 01:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA32084; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 01:25:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 01:25:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Wilko Bulte Cc: R Joseph Wright , freebsd-stable Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated In-Reply-To: <20000909085916.B542@freebie.demon.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 07:02:25PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote: > > > > > Will USA_RESIDENT continue to be used? > > > > Possibly in ports, but theres no need for it in the src tree. > > make buildworld whines when it is not set. Yeah, because it hasn't been removed yet :) Peter just did it in -current. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 3: 5:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F324E37B443; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 03:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13XhTy-000Iip-00; Sat, 09 Sep 2000 10:03:34 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e89A4RM01287; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:04:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:04:27 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Kris Kennaway Cc: R Joseph Wright , freebsd-stable Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated Message-ID: <20000909120427.A1273@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20000909085916.B542@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@freebsd.org on Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 01:25:53AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 01:25:53AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 07:02:25PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote: > > > > > > > Will USA_RESIDENT continue to be used? > > > > > > Possibly in ports, but theres no need for it in the src tree. > > > > make buildworld whines when it is not set. > > Yeah, because it hasn't been removed yet :) Peter just did it in -current. I just noticed the commit message come in. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@freebsd.org Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 6:54:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from toja.obywatel.pl (toja.obywatel.pl [195.117.244.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BCA37B423 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 06:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reality (pa21.gdansk.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl [213.76.24.21]) by toja.obywatel.pl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA29396 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 15:54:26 +0200 Message-ID: <01b001c01a65$8935d700$15184cd5@check> From: "q2w2" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 15:53:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 7:47:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from brain.stagecraft.cx (carlma.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.12.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF87237B423; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [203.37.99.25] (25.stagecraft.cx [203.37.99.25]) by brain.stagecraft.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA49343; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 00:47:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@stagecraft.cx) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 01:47:28 +1000 From: Carl Makin Subject: i810 graphics card locks up 4.1-RELEASE box. To: hardware@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Authenticated: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm trying to get XFree86 v4.0.1 to talk to an i810 graphics chipset on a Gigabyte motherboard. I've compiled the agp module statically into the kernel and installed Xfree86 4.0.1 from the latest XFree86-4 port. This is on a FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE box, but I'm sending this message to -stable as the agp module doesn't seem to have changed since -RELEASE came out. When I run X or startx, X seems to start ok, I see the normal X startup stuff flash pass the screen and then the screen goes blank and the box locks up. Can't telnet to it (but can ping it). I have dmesg output, XFree86.0.log output and the XF86Config file if anyone would like to see them. Any suggestions as to what the problem is or what my next debugging step would be? (I suspect that would be trying gdb :(. If so what should I look for?) Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 9: 0:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sparenix.metronet.com (sparenix.metronet.com [207.170.106.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4108537B42C for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 09:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28546 invoked by uid 7770); 9 Sep 2000 16:02:40 -0000 Received: from fcn105-5.tmi.net (HELO darkstar.metronet.com) (207.170.105.5) by sparenix.metronet.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2000 16:02:40 -0000 From: Jim Manley Reply-To: jmanley@metronet.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with make buildworld Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:55:31 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00090910591500.20675@darkstar.metronet.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been running 4.1-stable for a couple of months now and not had any problems. I recently cvsup'd and now I've got a problem with make buildw= orld. When I run it, everything rocks along fine until I get into /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. Things go haywire here..... cc -O -pipe -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/= i386 -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libb= fd/../l ibbfd/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/bin= utils/i nclude -DDEFAULT_VECTOR=3Dbfd_elf32_i386_vec -DHAVE_bfd_elf32_i386_vec -I= /usr/src/ gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd -DBFD_VERSIO= N=3D\"2.1 0.0\" -DSELECT_ARCHITECTURES=3D" &bfd_i386_arch" -DSELECT_VECS=3D" &bfd_e= lf32_i386_v ec" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/= libbfd/ =2E./../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/format.c -o format.o cc: Internal compiler error: program cpp got fatal signal 11 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. =20 Any ideas what's gone wrong and how to go about fixing it? Regard, Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 9:30:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.solexine.fr (mail.solexine.fr [195.114.74.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADFB37B424 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 09:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mothra (mothra.solexine.fr [195.114.74.245]) by mail.solexine.fr (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 150-63470U200L2S100V35) with ESMTP id fr; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:30:10 +0200 From: "David TOUITOU" Organization: Solexine To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:30:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: VPN? IPSEC? KAME? CIA? Cc: Gregory Bond Message-ID: <39BA81CA.6427.735EB1@localhost> In-reply-to: <200009070034.LAA19470@lightning.itga.com.au> References: Your message of 06 Sep 2000 20:30:54 -0000. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 Sep 2000, at 11:34, Gregory Bond wrote: > > So what VPN solution are all the cool kids using > > in FreeBSD these days? > > See http://www.itga.com.au/~gnb/vpn/ for my continuing efforts to solve this > problem. I'm using ppp-over-ssh for FreeBSD-to-FreeBSD VPN. > > Work on a secure Windows PPTP-to-FreeBSD solution is progressing (slowly! > Brian - Where's the MPPE patches for ppp? :) Have you check PoPToP solution ? http://www.moretonbay.com/vpn/pptp.html I'm thinking of running such a box to allow Windows clients (95, 98, NT, 2k) to log on my network. Under OpenBSD actually. Regards, David. -- ...................................................................... David Touitou http://dites-le.com SysAdmin and co Solexine To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 10:40:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21D737B424 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e89HeFV39927; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 13:40:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000909133932.0398af08@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 13:40:14 -0400 To: "David TOUITOU" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: VPN? IPSEC? KAME? CIA? Cc: Gregory Bond In-Reply-To: <39BA81CA.6427.735EB1@localhost> References: <200009070034.LAA19470@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 06:30 PM 9/9/2000 +0200, David TOUITOU wrote: >On 7 Sep 2000, at 11:34, Gregory Bond wrote: > > > > So what VPN solution are all the cool kids using > > > in FreeBSD these days? > > > > See http://www.itga.com.au/~gnb/vpn/ for my continuing efforts to solve > this > > problem. I'm using ppp-over-ssh for FreeBSD-to-FreeBSD VPN. > > > > Work on a secure Windows PPTP-to-FreeBSD solution is progressing (slowly! > > Brian - Where's the MPPE patches for ppp? :) > >Have you check PoPToP solution ? >http://www.moretonbay.com/vpn/pptp.html PoPToP on FreeBSD does not support data encryption. You need to look at the netgraph mpp port for that. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 12:13:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f173.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD72837B424 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:13:47 -0700 Received: from 216.154.60.38 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 09 Sep 2000 19:13:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.154.60.38] From: "Albert Fields" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: pnp(4) no longer allowed by userconfig, pnp0 missing Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 12:13:47 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Sep 2000 19:13:47.0721 (UTC) FILETIME=[14762B90:01C01A92] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've been searching all the mailing lists and have seen many people asking my question, but no responses to it. (From what I can see.) The question is this: What happened to the pnp support in user config in 4.0? The man page pnp(4) is still there, although inaccurate, and from what I've looked though in the past two days, support for pnp configuration at boot seems to have disappeared. What's going on? I have hesitated to bring myself up past 4.0-STABLE (don't feel like messing around much and need stability on this machine), but I am seriously considering it if I need to, to add PnP support. If I went to -current, would PnP be restored? When I added the entry 'controller pnp0' as suggested by the pnp(4) manpage to my kernel config (which seemed strange to me because it was called controller), config said that 'controller' was depreciated and to use device. When I added the entry 'device pnp0', config told me it couldn't find the device pnp. So where has it gone? As far as I can see this is a large inconvenience for a number of people, so can someone please advice what can be done to configure PnP devices from /boot/kernel.conf or by other means at boot? Is there a substitute or other command that can be used in it's place? Was it depreciated? If so, by what? Why was this removed? Etc... etc... Usually this wouldn't be a concern, because I would just let it set itself, and forget it. (Plug'n Pray) However, I am running low on IRQs and need to move some things around; I want to give IRQs to devices that are coming up with 'can't assign resources'... Otherwise I can't get all the devices working due to stupidity in hardware. Some are on-board devices on the ISA side. I was considering to just go out and buy better hardware, but I don't want to give up since, IMHO, I think in most cases the software should be made to run on hardware, not the converse. (Plus, I wanted to get this specific hardware running.) It is a tight fit getting all the peripherals working, but it will fit if I can get the PnP side working. Thanks for helping me, and others who have this same problem, Albert Fields _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 12:35:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hub.lovett.com (hub.lovett.com [216.60.121.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F395137B423 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cobra.lovett.com ([10.0.0.3]) by hub.lovett.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13XqP1-000Ceu-00; Sat, 09 Sep 2000 14:35:03 -0500 Received: (from ade@localhost) by cobra.lovett.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e89JZ2u04140; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 14:35:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ade) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 14:35:02 -0500 From: Ade Lovett To: Timothy Legant Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl Doesn't like XFree-4.0.1 Message-ID: <20000909143502.B2269@FreeBSD.org> References: <20000907181039Y.rklosh@rkl.org> <00090521085201.35453@sniper.domtek.fr> <200009080207.UAA49324@harmony.village.org> <20000907235745S.rklosh@rkl.org> <20000908223845.A13879@skitty.catseye.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000908223845.A13879@skitty.catseye.net>; from thl@catseye.net on Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:38:45PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 10:38:45PM -0500, Timothy Legant wrote: > I haven't looked at the GNOME source, so I can't speak to whether > they're hard-coding anything or not. However, whatever they're doing, > they seem to do *only* if you haven't explicitly set the i18n stuff in > your environment. I'm looking in to the gnomelibs source right now.. please bear with me for a few days, since RealJob[tm] is pretty hectic right now. In the meantime, the "fix" is to add the following to your shell startup files, season to taste for locale and shell: setenv LC_ALL en_US.ISO_8859-1 setenv LC_CTYPE en_US.ISO_8859-1 setenv LANG en_US.ISO_8859-1 -aDe [Mr. FreeBSD-GNOME] -- Ade Lovett, Austin, TX. ade@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 12:43: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from db.wireless.net (adsl-gte-la-216-86-194-70.mminternet.com [216.86.194.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DA937B422; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from db.wireless.net (dbm.wireless.net [192.168.0.2]) by db.wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12100; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:30:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbutter@db.wireless.net) Message-ID: <39BA92BF.D0632472@db.wireless.net> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 12:42:55 -0700 From: Devin Butterfield X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, buaas@wireless.net Subject: Panics from trying to open dev after kldunload Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I'm working on a device driver for FreeBSD for a VoIP telephony card and I stumbled upon a serious problem. If I "kldunload" my driver and subsequently try to open the device, the kernel panics. I found that the vn device suffers from this same bug. For example: Before kldload vn: [root@dbm]# echo -n>/dev/vn0 su: /dev/vn0: Device not configured [root@dbm]# This of course is the expected behavior. We then can do this... [root@dbm]# kldload vn [root@dbm]# echo -n>/dev/vn0 [root@dbm]# Again, expected behavior... But if we then do this... [root@dbm]# kldunload vn [root@dbm]# echo -n>/dev/vn0 we get an instant panic. It seems that there is already a pr open for this (kern/18270) which includes a patch to correctly cleanup after "kldunload". Is this the correct fix for this...why hasn't this been committed?? -- Regards, Devin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 13:18: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isris.pair.com (isris.pair.com [209.68.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402BE37B422 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 13:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rooneg@localhost) by isris.pair.com (8.9.1/8.6.12) id QAA23949; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 16:17:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20000909161757.A25021@electricjellyfish.net> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 16:17:57 -0400 From: Garrett Rooney To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with make buildworld Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <00090910591500.20675@darkstar.metronet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <00090910591500.20675@darkstar.metronet.com>; from Jim Manley on Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 10:55:31AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 10:55:31AM -0500, Jim Manley wrote: > ../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/format.c -o format.o > cc: Internal compiler error: program cpp got fatal signal 11 > *** Error code 1 signal 11 often indicates hardware problems... have you recently added any new ram? it could be bad. even if you haven't added any new ram, try swapping it with known good ram. also check to cooling on the machine. overheating occasionally gets you weird results like this. is the error reproducable? does it always stop in the same place? if not, then it's most likely hardware. -- garrett rooney my pid is inigo montoya. rooneg@electricjellyfish.net you kill -9 my parent process. http://electricjellyfish.net/ prepare to vi. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 15:13: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from brain.stagecraft.cx (carlma.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.12.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA7737B422 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 15:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [203.37.99.25] (25.stagecraft.cx [203.37.99.25]) by brain.stagecraft.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA49923; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 08:12:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@stagecraft.cx) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:12:25 +1000 From: Carl Makin Subject: Re: i810 graphics card locks up 4.1-RELEASE box. To: "Sean O'Connell" , stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20000909155151.A5587@stat.Duke.EDU> Message-ID: X-Authenticated: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 15:51:51 -0400 sean@stat.Duke.EDU (Sean O'Connell) wrote: >Carl Makin stated: >: I'm trying to get XFree86 v4.0.1 to talk to an i810 graphics chipset on a >: Gigabyte motherboard. I've compiled the agp module statically into the >This is the appropo list (that or -questions ... I guess). I think >that someone wrote up a "how-to" and posted it to either daemonnews >(http://www.daemonnews.org) or freebsddiary (http://www.freebsddiary.org). I've been watching freebsddiary for that article and it hasn't appeared yet. Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 16:15: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7CE37B42C; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 16:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05211; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:14:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200009092314.TAA05211@world.std.com> To: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello -stable: Just In Case Someone Needs To Know, cvsup3 seems to not have the file "rsa_eay.c" (required for "native" OpenSSL). I tried a test cvsup run from cvsup5 & got that file. I would speculate that this relates to cvsup3 being physically hosted at MIT(?) It therefore appears to me that if you track -stable from cvsup3, you will *not* (as of the date/time of this message) get "native" OpenSSL libraries & will still need RSAREF. Is this merely some kind of oversight or is this By Design? Thanks, -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 16:19:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C411537B422; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 16:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA44967; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 16:19:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 16:19:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Garrett Wollman Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated In-Reply-To: <200009092314.TAA05211@world.std.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > Just In Case Someone Needs To Know, cvsup3 seems to not > have the file "rsa_eay.c" (required for "native" OpenSSL). > I tried a test cvsup run from cvsup5 & got that file. I > would speculate that this relates to cvsup3 being > physically hosted at MIT(?) Correct. "Don't do that" :) I'm not sure if the file will be added after the 21st or if there are lingering concerns - I hope it will, because that will make it extremely annoying for us otherwise. In particular, I don't intend to continue supporting rsaref, so this would make cvsup3 somewhat useless as a mirror if it doesnt carry the file. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 17: 8:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.volant.org (phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD0937B423; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 17:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org ([205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #8) id 13Xufm-0005kl-00; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 17:08:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA17162; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 17:08:34 -0700 (PDT) From: patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 17:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Kenneth W Cochran , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, Garrett Wollman In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 9-Sep-00 at 16:20, Kris Kennaway (kris@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > > > Just In Case Someone Needs To Know, cvsup3 seems to not > > have the file "rsa_eay.c" (required for "native" OpenSSL). > > I tried a test cvsup run from cvsup5 & got that file. I > > would speculate that this relates to cvsup3 being > > physically hosted at MIT(?) > > Correct. "Don't do that" :) > > I'm not sure if the file will be added after the 21st or if there are > lingering concerns - I hope it will, because that will make it extremely > annoying for us otherwise. In particular, I don't intend to continue > supporting rsaref, so this would make cvsup3 somewhat useless as a mirror > if it doesnt carry the file. Is that the only mirror that is in that situation, or are there others that we need to beware of? -Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 17:11:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B9037B42C; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 17:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA52467; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 17:11:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 17:11:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG Cc: Kenneth W Cochran , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, Garrett Wollman Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG wrote: > Is that the only mirror that is in that situation, or are there > others that we need to beware of? It's the only one I know of.. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 18: 2:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-1.catskill.net (ns.catskill.net [205.232.250.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C964037B422 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catskill.net (70.m68.one.catskill.net [209.177.41.70]) by mail-1.catskill.net (8.11.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e8A12ZB24569 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 21:02:35 -0400 Message-ID: <39BADE50.1B8C952B@catskill.net> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 21:05:21 -0400 From: "eric k. wolven" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 18:37: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.wkgroup.com (ns2.wkgroup.com [24.48.62.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04BF937B423 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from syswiz.com (pm2port20.coudersport.pcidu.com [208.11.230.82]) by ns2.wkgroup.com (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA08856 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 21:41:09 -0400 Message-ID: <39BAE51D.A376443A@syswiz.com> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 21:34:21 -0400 From: Jerry Stachowski Organization: System Wizards X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD InterTECH (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscription Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 19: 1:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819C937B42C; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA19191; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 22:00:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 22:00:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200009100200.WAA19191@world.std.com> To: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On a related note, is there some way to check and/or verify whether we're using "native" OpenSSL vs RSAREF, for example, afer a {build,install}world? -kc >Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 17:11:09 -0700 (PDT) >From: Kris Kennaway >To: patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG >Cc: Kenneth W Cochran , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, > Garrett Wollman >Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated >In-Reply-To: >Message-ID: > >On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG wrote: > >> Is that the only mirror that is in that situation, or are there >> others that we need to beware of? > >It's the only one I know of.. > >Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 19:35: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49C137B423 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 23E63A8AE; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:35:12 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C91D544B; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:35:12 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:35:12 +1000 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: Albert Fields Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pnp(4) no longer allowed by userconfig, pnp0 missing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Albert Fields wrote: > device. When I added the entry 'device pnp0', config told me it couldn't > find the device pnp. So where has it gone? From memory it is now built in...you no longer need to specify it in your config file...but I can't find where that is documented. > so can someone please advice what can be done to configure PnP devices from > /boot/kernel.conf or by other means at boot? Is there a substitute or other Have you tried booting with -c and using the pnp command? I'm just guessing here. If it has been incorporated perhaps you could let freebsd-docs know as there are references to controller pnp0 not just in the man page but the FAQ and possibly elsewhere. Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 19:38:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from savior.rootprompt.net (mail.rootprompt.net [208.53.161.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 902FB37B422 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1698 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2000 02:38:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jove) (192.168.1.2) by mail.rootprompt.net with SMTP; 10 Sep 2000 02:38:40 -0000 From: "Robert Banniza" To: Subject: ssh -1.2.30 won't compile... Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 21:39:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200009100200.WAA19191@world.std.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This may be a little off topic but I would like to know if anyone has tried to compile ssh-1.2.30 from a tarball (outside of ports). I tried compiling this on 4.1-Release tonight and I'm getting errors. I have not CVSUP'ed ports to see if it is now coming with some higher version than 1.2.27. Anyway, here are the errors I'm getting (this looks like a sshd.c code problem but nonetheless): ######################################################################### gcc -pipe -c -I. -I./gmp-2.0.2-ssh-2 -I./zlib-1.0.4 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DHOST _KEY_FILE=\"/etc/ssh_host_key\" -DHOST_CONFIG_FILE=\"/etc/ssh_config\" -DSER VER_CONFIG_FILE=\"/etc/sshd_config\" -DSSH_PROGRAM=\"/usr/local/bin/ssh1\" - DETCDIR=\"/etc\" -DPIDDIR=\"/var/run\" -DSSH_BINDIR=\"/usr/local/bin\" -DTIS _MAP_FILE=\"/etc/sshd_tis.map\" -g -O2 -I/usr/X11R6/include sshd.c sshd.c: In function `do_authenticated': sshd.c:2972: syntax error before `<' sshd.c:3032: break statement not within loop or switch sshd.c:3034: case label not within a switch statement sshd.c:3078: break statement not within loop or switch sshd.c:3088: case label not within a switch statement sshd.c:3105: break statement not within loop or switch sshd.c:3107: case label not within a switch statement sshd.c:3122: break statement not within loop or switch sshd.c:3125: case label not within a switch statement sshd.c:3140: case label not within a switch statement sshd.c:3162: default label not within a switch statement sshd.c:3131: label `do_forced_command' used but not defined sshd.c:2862: label `fail' used but not defined sshd.c: At top level: sshd.c:3171: syntax error before `14' sshd.c:3171: conflicting types for `packet_start' packet.h:109: previous declaration of `packet_start' sshd.c:3171: warning: data definition has no type or storage class sshd.c:3172: conflicting types for `packet_send' packet.h:125: previous declaration of `packet_send' sshd.c:3172: warning: data definition has no type or storage class sshd.c:3173: conflicting types for `packet_write_wait' packet.h:191: previous declaration of `packet_write_wait' sshd.c:3173: warning: data definition has no type or storage class sshd.c:3176: syntax error before `if' *** Error code 1 ######################################################################### This was a generic tarball that I was trying to install using: ./configure make To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 20: 1:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18E237B424; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 20:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA69139; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 20:01:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 20:01:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RSA liberated In-Reply-To: <200009100200.WAA19191@world.std.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > On a related note, is there some way to check and/or verify > whether we're using "native" OpenSSL vs RSAREF, for > example, afer a {build,install}world? If you have /usr/lib/librsaINTL.so you are using native, it you only have librsaUSA then you're using rsaref. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 9 22:33:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.naisp.net (mail.naisp.net [216.129.152.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE9537B422 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 22:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blais (dialup013-m0.naisp.net [216.129.155.13]) by mail.naisp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA19450 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 01:33:37 -0400 Message-ID: <025c01c01ae8$625beba0$0d9b81d8@blais> From: "Blais Klucznik" To: Subject: Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 01:26:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe stable@FreeBSD marbla@naisp.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message