From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 0:20: 6 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 00:20:03 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D57037B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from NOOR (unknown [156.27.243.27]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BD82612C6F1; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:17:52 +0200 (IST) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "Tom" , "Rick Jansen" Cc: Subject: RE: MySQLd not using both CPUs Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:19:58 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, If you start multiple mysqld's, will each one process occupy same memory as its friend? Or is it that first process uses a certain amount of memory, and then each instance uses a portion of the system memory and shares the other with the main process? Noor -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 7:22 AM To: Rick Jansen Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MySQLd not using both CPUs On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Rick Jansen wrote: ... > it says the machine is around 49% idle! This leads me to conclude that MySQL > is jusing just one processor. What can i do about this? It's an awful waste > of such a nice P3 733.. ... With the current FreeBSD architecture, since there is only one process, it can only run one CPU at a time. You can run multiple mysqld's to circumvent this. This is warmly recommended for other reasons. There is a new startup script included with the newer version of MySQL designed to start lots of mysqlds (mainly for vhosting). Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 0:20:11 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 00:20:06 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD38037B401 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from NOOR (unknown [156.27.243.27]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1510C12C7BC; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:17:58 +0200 (IST) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "David Schwartz" , "Tom" , "Rick Jansen" Cc: Subject: RE: MySQLd not using both CPUs Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:20:03 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Why should I use LinuxThreads to make use of more than one CPU? I mean, how come that FreeBSD's threads library doesn't support this, and will it ever? (maybe it's in development even now...) Noor -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Schwartz Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 8:49 AM To: Tom; Rick Jansen Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: MySQLd not using both CPUs On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Rick Jansen wrote: > With the current FreeBSD architecture, since there is only one process, > it can only run one CPU at a time. > > You can run multiple mysqld's to circumvent this. This is warmly > recommended for other reasons. There is a new startup script included > with the newer version of MySQL designed to start lots of mysqlds (mainly > for vhosting). You should be able to compile MySQL under FreeBSD using the LinuxThreads port. That would allow it to take advantage of multiple CPUs. I haven't personally done this, but there shouldn't be anything to prevent this from working. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 0:23: 1 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 00:22:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FA537B400; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from newsguy.com (p23-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.24]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id RAA21674; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:22:54 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3A333CE4.5B9FDA92@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:20:52 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCIOCGETCONF/PCIOCREAD requires write permission? References: <200012080707.AAA12102@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20001208115004.B81619@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 12:07:49AM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > I thought the space staked out by the *BSD gang was approximately > > this: > > NetBSD - the least amount of platform-specific code possible; run > > on most anything > > OpenBSD - pro-active security, bullet-proof from attacks > > FreeBSD - best performing on the Intel PC platform > > s/the Intel PC/server/ The Alpha has very good I/O bandwidth and 64-bit > address space. Thus it fits our niche. You also mentioned Sparc, but > really should have said sparc64(pci based). > > hopefully embeded soon too. Yep, "server" is much more to the point. And not simply best performing, but we also strive to be user-friendly. The bottomline is that we, of the BSDs, do *not* have a focus. We want to support good servers and good desktops and good notebooks, we want to provide performance and user friendlyness. We do not care about being ported to every hardware platform under sun, and we do not go out of our way to provide security. Thus, NetBSD and OpenBSD have the edge on us on these respects, but we gain by providing a better overall enviroment on the platforms we support. The problem is that you can't one-line that. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.great.underground.bsdconpiracy.org "The bronze landed last, which canceled that method of impartial choice." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 0:26:11 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 00:26:09 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (unknown [209.10.218.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C6437B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:26:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from whenever ([216.152.68.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:25:01 -0800 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Noor Dawod" Cc: Subject: RE: MySQLd not using both CPUs Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:26:06 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Why should I use LinuxThreads to make use of more than one CPU? I mean, > how come that FreeBSD's threads library doesn't support this, and will > it ever? (maybe it's in development even now...) > > Noor The FreeBSD port of LinuxThreads _is_ a FreeBSD thread library. It's not emulation or anything, it's a threads library for FreeBSD native code. The pthreads implementation included with FreeBSD (libc_r) is really just not useful for high-performance or high-reliability applications. In my experience, it works very well for bad code and very badly for good code. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 0:35:56 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 00:35:53 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D2037B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:35:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from NOOR (unknown [156.27.243.27]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FDB412C6F1; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:33:46 +0200 (IST) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "David Schwartz" Cc: Subject: RE: MySQLd not using both CPUs Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:35:52 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi And from your experience, can the LinuxThreads take place of the pthreads library in all aspects? Will all programs support it, that is, like it does with pthreads? I am asking because I also use mysqld, and if you say that LinuxThreads is better, then I'd start using it and check if it indeed utilizes the system better than pthreads.... If you have any other tips about mysqld and LinuxThreads, please share it (even off the list.) Thanks Noor -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Schwartz Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 10:26 AM To: Noor Dawod Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: MySQLd not using both CPUs > Why should I use LinuxThreads to make use of more than one CPU? I mean, > how come that FreeBSD's threads library doesn't support this, and will > it ever? (maybe it's in development even now...) > > Noor The FreeBSD port of LinuxThreads _is_ a FreeBSD thread library. It's not emulation or anything, it's a threads library for FreeBSD native code. The pthreads implementation included with FreeBSD (libc_r) is really just not useful for high-performance or high-reliability applications. In my experience, it works very well for bad code and very badly for good code. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 0:54: 4 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 00:54:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (unknown [209.10.218.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061DC37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from whenever ([216.152.68.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:52:55 -0800 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Noor Dawod" Cc: Subject: RE: MySQLd not using both CPUs Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:54:01 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > And from your experience, can the LinuxThreads take place of the > pthreads library in all aspects? Yes. > Will all programs support it, that is, > like it does with pthreads? Almost. LinuxThreads has a few places where it's not fully POSIX compliant. IMO, the libc_r pthreads implementation is worse in this respect, but the incompatabilities are different. However, it should be possible without too much difficulty to get any program that works with LinuxThreads on Linux to do so on FreeBSD. The hard part may be getting the program to recognize that it's on FreeBSD (and thus may need certain FreeBSD-specific tweaks) but is using LinuxThreads (and should therefore be ready for true multithreading and workaround LinuxThreads-specific issues). > I am asking because I also use mysqld, and > if you say that LinuxThreads is better, then I'd start using it and > check if it indeed utilizes the system better than pthreads.... It should definitely work better for the following reasons: 1) A single process can run on more than one CPU. 2) Multiple I/O operations can be pending. The whole process won't be stuck waiting a file to be read. 3) The program will be less vulnerable to ambush, say due to page faults with a busy disk queue. However, there is at least one caveat -- each thread will show as a process in tools like 'ps', which can be disconcerting. You may also need to raise the limit on the number of processes you can have, because to the kernel, each thread is a process. > If you have any other tips about mysqld and LinuxThreads, please share > it (even off the list.) My recollection is that MySQLd works perfectly with LinuxThreads on Linux. There should be no reason it should be any different on FreeBSD. The trick will be getting the configuration right. Be sure to read the 'README.FreeBSD' file included with the LinuxThreads port. Also, make sure you have the latest kernel build from the 4-STABLE branch. There were lots of file descriptor sharing issues. In fact, I fear there may still be a few. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 1: 2: 4 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 01:02:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173F537B400; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 01:02:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBA91ss62134; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 02:01:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA27464; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 02:01:54 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200012100901.CAA27464@harmony.village.org> To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Subject: Re: PCIOCGETCONF/PCIOCREAD requires write permission? Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Chad R. Larson" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:20:52 +0900." <3A333CE4.5B9FDA92@newsguy.com> References: <3A333CE4.5B9FDA92@newsguy.com> <200012080707.AAA12102@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20001208115004.B81619@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 02:01:53 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: imp@harmony.village.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3A333CE4.5B9FDA92@newsguy.com> "Daniel C. Sobral" writes: : ported to every hardware platform under sun, and we do not go out of our : way to provide security. Thus, NetBSD and OpenBSD have the edge on us on What? I don't see how you can say that about security... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 1:39:59 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 01:39:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2489537B401; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 01:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from newsguy.com (p23-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.24]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id SAA03992; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:39:49 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3A334EEB.5833CE81@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:37:47 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Chad R. Larson" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCIOCGETCONF/PCIOCREAD requires write permission? References: <3A333CE4.5B9FDA92@newsguy.com> <200012080707.AAA12102@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20001208115004.B81619@dragon.nuxi.com> <200012100901.CAA27464@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <3A333CE4.5B9FDA92@newsguy.com> "Daniel C. Sobral" writes: > : ported to every hardware platform under sun, and we do not go out of our > : way to provide security. Thus, NetBSD and OpenBSD have the edge on us on > > What? I don't see how you can say that about security... We don't go *out* of our way. And just because OpenBSD has an *edge*, that doesn't mean said edge is all that big. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.great.underground.bsdconpiracy.org "The bronze landed last, which canceled that method of impartial choice." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 2:19:16 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 02:19:14 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0DD37B400; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 02:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA48822; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:19:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Sender: des@ofug.org X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: rsowders@usgs.gov Cc: Kal Torak , FreeBSD-stable , owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh port broken? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 10 Dec 2000 11:19:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: rsowders@usgs.gov's message of "Sat, 9 Dec 2000 22:54:54 -0800" Message-ID: Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG rsowders@usgs.gov writes: > If you want ssh there is no reason to install the > port, it is part of the OS now. You just need to > enable it in the /etc/rc.conf file. Copy the > ssh_enable=yes line from the /etc/defualts/rc.conf > into the /etc/rc.conf and reboot. /etc/defaults/rc.conf is always read before /etc/rc.conf, so there's no point in listing anything in /etc/rc.conf unless it overrides the default setting. In recent FreeBSD releases, ssh is enabled by default. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 2:22: 6 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 02:22:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A339A37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 02:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA48840; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:21:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Sender: des@ofug.org X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Tom Cc: Rick Jansen , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MySQLd not using both CPUs References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 10 Dec 2000 11:21:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: Tom's message of "Sat, 9 Dec 2000 21:22:27 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tom writes: > With the current FreeBSD architecture, since there is only one process, > it can only run one CPU at a time. ...unless you have linuxthreads installed and build MySQL with linuxthreads support (if at all possible). Don't ask me how, I haven't tried. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 2:31:44 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 02:31:42 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from krycek.zoominternet.net (krycek.zoominternet.net [63.67.120.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36CBE37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 02:31:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29918 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2000 10:27:57 -0000 Received: from lcl12.cvzoom.net (HELO cvzoom.net) (208.226.155.12) by krycek.zoominternet.net with SMTP; 10 Dec 2000 10:27:57 -0000 Sender: dmmiller@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3A335B8C.512F8D71@cvzoom.net> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 05:31:40 -0500 From: Donn Miller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: rsowders@usgs.gov, Kal Torak , FreeBSD-stable , owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh port broken? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > n recent FreeBSD releases, sshd is enabled by default. This is not good. All services should be disabled out of the box. IMO, there should be a prompt on install asking the installer if (s)he would like sshd enabled. Also, portmap, inetd, and sendmail should be set to "NO", unless the user specifically asks for it (at least in /etc/defaults/rc.conf anyways). Of course, almost all server admins would want at least one of these running. I think ALL network services should be disabled, and leave it up to the sysadmin to enable what he needs after the install has been complete. Just my 2 cts (although no one asked me). When I re-installed 4.2, I noticed sshd was enabled by default. I definitely didn't want sshd running. Although it's possible to disable these daemons post-install, I think *additive* rather than *subtractive* configuring of network daemons is the safest bet. I'm going to draw some flames in this one, for sure. - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 2:36: 1 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 02:35:58 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6D737B400; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 02:35:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA48888; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:35:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Sender: des@ofug.org X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Donn Miller Cc: rsowders@usgs.gov, Kal Torak , FreeBSD-stable , owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh port broken? References: <3A335B8C.512F8D71@cvzoom.net> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 10 Dec 2000 11:35:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: Donn Miller's message of "Sun, 10 Dec 2000 05:31:40 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Donn Miller writes: > Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > In recent FreeBSD releases, sshd is enabled by default. > This is not good. Turns out I was wrong - it's prbably enabled in /etc/rc.conf by sysinstall. des@des ~% grep '="YES"' /usr/src/etc/defaults/rc.conf tcp_keepalive="YES" # Enable stale TCP connection timeout (or NO). ppp_nat="YES" # Use PPP's internal network address translation or NO. syslogd_enable="YES" # Run syslog daemon (or NO). rpc_statd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.statd if nfs_server (or NO). prefixcmd_enable="YES" # Use prefix command to assign router prefix. rtadvd_enable="YES" # Set to YES to enable an IPv6 router ipv6_ipv4mapping="YES" # Leave empty to disable IPv4 mapped IPv6 addr cron_enable="YES" # Run the periodic job daemon. check_quotas="YES" # Check quotas on startup (or NO). update_motd="YES" # update version info in /etc/motd (or NO) unaligned_print="YES" # print unaligned access warnings on the alpha (or NO). DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 5:17:23 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 05:17:21 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55EA37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 05:17:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA49416; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:17:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Sender: des@ofug.org X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: "Noor Dawod" Cc: "David Schwartz" , "Tom" , "Rick Jansen" , Subject: Re: MySQLd not using both CPUs References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 10 Dec 2000 14:17:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Noor Dawod"'s message of "Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:20:03 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Noor Dawod" writes: > Why should I use LinuxThreads to make use of more than one CPU? I mean, > how come that FreeBSD's threads library doesn't support this, and will > it ever? (maybe it's in development even now...) http://people.freebsd.org/~jasone/kse/ DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 6:15:51 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 06:15:50 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79A6137B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 06:15:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10825 invoked by uid 0); 10 Dec 2000 14:15:47 -0000 Received: from p3ee21603.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.226.22.3) by mail.gmx.net (mail03) with SMTP; 10 Dec 2000 14:15:47 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22273 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:33:48 +0100 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:33:48 +0100 From: Gerhard Sittig To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: ssh port broken? Message-ID: <20001210093348.F27042@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-stable References: <3A32C7D7.68C5815C@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3A32C7D7.68C5815C@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:01:27AM +1100 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:01 +1100, Kal Torak wrote: > > When I recently tried to make the ssh port on 4.2 Stable, it > breaks when checking for xauth... You did check your config files, didn't you? Newer ssh programs default to *not* forward X sessions. This has been discussed lately a hundred times. You should have noticed when running mergemaster or when eyeballing the newly installed config for needed customization. :) virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 7:23:42 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 07:23:40 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www3.infolink.com.br (www3.infolink.com.br [200.255.108.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1725637B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from diala11 (unverified [200.255.108.11]) by www3.infolink.com.br (Vircom SMTPRS 4.2.181) with SMTP id for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:23:38 -0300 Message-ID: <002301c062bd$2aeb0440$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> From: "Antonio Carlos Pina" To: References: <00dd01c05e2e$e42a0700$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:23:36 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4029.2901 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4029.2901 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, > > I believe (sorry if I'm wrong) that you can't use DUMMYNET with IPFILTER, > > only with IPFW. > > You're wrong. Thank you for your reply. Could you elaborate a bit ? I've seen while browsing a mail list archives (I think it was in false.net) that IPFILTER could not work with Dummynet. > > Besides that, I've seen a lot of people saying that IPFILTER is better than > > IPFW (faster, more powerful, etc) > > Don't know if it's faster, but IPFilter is definitely way more powerful. Could you tell us why ? A lot of people here (including me) would like to know about ipfilter... Best Regards, Antonio Carlos Pina apina@infolink.com.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 7:41:39 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 07:41:37 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cac.net (mail.cac.net [209.44.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BF837B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 07:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from morpehus (02-167.008.popsite.net [209.69.195.167]) by mail.cac.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA05265 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:50:05 -0500 Message-ID: <004201c062c0$591adef0$0300a8c0@net> From: "Jason" To: Subject: CVSUp to 4.0-stable buildworld fails Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:46:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup'd (using cvsup.freebsd.org) at 9:00 a.m. EST this morning (12/10), I didn't get any errors and when I run make buildworld I get the following error. install: /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/symhacks.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Thanks in advance for the help. -Jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 8:24:21 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 08:24:18 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cac.net (mail.cac.net [209.44.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCB737B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 08:24:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from morpehus (02-167.008.popsite.net [209.69.195.167]) by mail.cac.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA11715 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:32:46 -0500 Message-ID: <005201c062c6$4ff3ac70$0300a8c0@net> From: "Jason" To: Subject: Re: CVSUp to 4.0-stable buildworld fails Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:29:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This can be disregarded, I apologize for bothering you all. The problem was misconfiguration on my end. -Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason" To: Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 10:46 AM Subject: CVSUp to 4.0-stable buildworld fails > I cvsup'd (using cvsup.freebsd.org) at 9:00 a.m. EST this morning > (12/10), I didn't get any errors and when I run make buildworld I get the > following error. > > > install: > /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/symhacks.h: No > such file or directory > *** Error code 71 > > Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > Thanks in advance for the help. > > -Jason > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 8:30:33 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 08:30:26 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mmap.nyct.net (mmap.nyct.net [216.44.109.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F7F37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 08:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by mmap.nyct.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6415CFAB5; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:29:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:29:21 -0500 To: David Schwartz Cc: Noor Dawod , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MySQLd not using both CPUs Message-ID: <20001210112921.A5531@mmap.nyct.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from davids@webmaster.com on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 12:54:01AM -0800 From: mbac@mmap.nyct.net (Michael Bacarella) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 12:54:01AM -0800, David Schwartz wrote: > 2) Multiple I/O operations can be pending. The whole process won't be stuck > waiting a file to be read. In my experience, that doesn't happen. What does instead happen is that an operation that would block is instead delayed and sched_yield() is called. In cases where nothing can be done (waiting for 10 read()s to complete and all would block, for example), you go into a busy wait loop. > However, there is at least one caveat -- each thread will show as a process > in tools like 'ps', which can be disconcerting. You may also need to raise > the limit on the number of processes you can have, because to the kernel, > each thread is a process. > My recollection is that MySQLd works perfectly with LinuxThreads on Linu > There should be no reason it should be any different on FreeBSD. The trick > will be getting the configuration right. Be sure to read the > 'README.FreeBSD' file included with the LinuxThreads port. I think the whole 1 thread to 1 process scheme that LinuxThreads uses would be much slower under FreeBSD. Unless some magic has been put in to special case this scheme in the scheduler... you'll probably see better performance running LinuxThreads with Linux. -- Michael Bacarella ;finger address for public key GPG Key Fingerprint: B4E4 82F5 BCAC AB83 E6F7 B5AA 933E 2A75 79A4 A9C1 Technical Staff / New York Connect Net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 9:10:58 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 09:10:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C2C37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:10:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1098) id C22182B26E; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:10:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:10:51 -0600 From: Bill Fumerola To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20001210111051.F86825@elvis.mu.org> References: <00dd01c05e2e$e42a0700$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net>; from rguyom@pobox.com on Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 11:22:47AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-FEARSOME-20001103 i386 Sender: billf@elvis.mu.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 11:22:47AM +0100, Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 06:15:02PM -0200, Antonio Carlos Pina wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I believe (sorry if I'm wrong) that you can't use DUMMYNET with IPFILTER, > > only with IPFW. > > You're wrong. Actually, _you're_ wrong. DUMMYNET is very ipfw specific. -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - fumerola@yahoo-inc.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 9:25:51 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 09:25:48 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7FE37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:25:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 145AEH-00091M-00; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:25:41 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:25:39 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Noor Dawod Cc: Rick Jansen , stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: MySQLd not using both CPUs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Noor Dawod wrote: > Hi, > > If you start multiple mysqld's, will each one process occupy same memory > as its friend? Or is it that first process uses a certain amount of > memory, and then each instance uses a portion of the system memory and > shares the other with the main process? > > Noor Program code is shared automatically as with any process. This thread belongs on -questions... Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 9:28:25 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 09:28:23 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FBA37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:28:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 145AGn-00093c-00; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:28:17 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:28:14 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Noor Dawod Cc: David Schwartz , Rick Jansen , stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: MySQLd not using both CPUs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Noor Dawod wrote: > Hi, > > Why should I use LinuxThreads to make use of more than one CPU? I mean, > how come that FreeBSD's threads library doesn't support this, and will > it ever? (maybe it's in development even now...) > > Noor LinuxThreads mimics the way Linux handles threads. On Linux, each thread is a psuedo-process (each thread is visible with "ps" too). This isn't the list for dicussion of threading models. See freebsd-questions and the archives. Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 9:32:31 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 09:32:30 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E0C37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 145AKl-000993-00; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:32:23 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:32:21 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Michael Bacarella Cc: David Schwartz , Noor Dawod , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MySQLd not using both CPUs In-Reply-To: <20001210112921.A5531@mmap.nyct.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Michael Bacarella wrote: ... > to special case this scheme in the scheduler... you'll probably see > better performance running LinuxThreads with Linux. I doubt that. The design of LinuxThreads is flawed, but those flaws are present in both the FreeBSD and Linux implementations. > -- > Michael Bacarella ;finger address for public key > GPG Key Fingerprint: B4E4 82F5 BCAC AB83 E6F7 B5AA 933E 2A75 79A4 A9C1 > Technical Staff / New York Connect Net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 9:36:43 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 09:36:40 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426E937B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:36:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1098) id D04DC2B27B; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:36:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:36:39 -0600 From: Bill Fumerola To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: ssh port broken? Message-ID: <20001210113639.G86825@elvis.mu.org> References: <3A335B8C.512F8D71@cvzoom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from des@ofug.org on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:35:50AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-FEARSOME-20001103 i386 Sender: billf@elvis.mu.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:35:50AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Donn Miller writes: > > Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > > In recent FreeBSD releases, sshd is enabled by default. > > This is not good. > > Turns out I was wrong - it's prbably enabled in /etc/rc.conf by > sysinstall. Yep. Eivind made this change (turn things off in defaults/rc.conf, but enable them from sysinstall). -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - fumerola@yahoo-inc.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 10:29:58 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 10:29:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from InterJet.dellroad.org (adsl-63-194-81-26.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.194.81.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430E937B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:29:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from curve.dellroad.org (curve.dellroad.org [10.1.1.30]) by InterJet.dellroad.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA94855; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:29:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from archie@localhost) by curve.dellroad.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eBAITso33172; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:29:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200012101829.eBAITso33172@curve.dellroad.org> Subject: Re: Softupdates? In-Reply-To: "from Nat Lanza at Dec 8, 2000 11:16:38 pm" To: Nat Lanza Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:29:53 -0800 (PST) Cc: Warner Losh , "Steven D. Smith" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nat Lanza writes: > > Briefly, they are a way of combining writes to disk so that fewer > > writes happen for meta data. > > There's also the "and ordering writes so that the disk is left in a > consistent state after each write, preventing filesystem damage in a > crash without the slowdown associated with a synchronous filesystem" > part, which I think is really most important. Maybe there should be a softupdates man page. No I'm not volunteering :-) -Archie __________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Packet Design * http://www.packetdesign.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 11:31:56 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 11:31:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.cluster.oleane.net (smtp4.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E01437B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:31:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (dyn-1-1-025.Orl.dialup.oleane.fr [195.25.26.25]) by smtp4.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id eBAJVmK75596 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:31:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DE535244; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 19:46:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 19:46:48 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20001210194648.B22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> References: <00dd01c05e2e$e42a0700$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <20001210111051.F86825@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001210111051.F86825@elvis.mu.org>; from billf@mu.org on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:10:51AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:10:51AM -0600, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 11:22:47AM +0100, Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 06:15:02PM -0200, Antonio Carlos Pina wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I believe (sorry if I'm wrong) that you can't use DUMMYNET with IPFILTER, > > > only with IPFW. > > > > You're wrong. > > Actually, _you're_ wrong. DUMMYNET is very ipfw specific. Check the mail archives. You can use both firewall packages at the same time. If you want to use IPFilter, then simply add it to the kernel config, along with IPFIREWALL (ipfw) and DUMMYNET : options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options DUMMYNET options IPFILTER options IPFILTER_LOG -- Rémi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 11:31:57 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 11:31:53 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.cluster.oleane.net (smtp2.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24BF37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:31:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (dyn-1-1-025.Orl.dialup.oleane.fr [195.25.26.25]) by smtp2.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id eBAJVmO64289 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:31:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 293CA400; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:28:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:28:17 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20001210202817.C22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> References: <00dd01c05e2e$e42a0700$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <002301c062bd$2aeb0440$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002301c062bd$2aeb0440$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br>; from apina@infolink.com.br on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 01:23:36PM -0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 01:23:36PM -0200, Antonio Carlos Pina wrote: > Hello, > > > > Besides that, I've seen a lot of people saying that IPFILTER is better > than > > > IPFW (faster, more powerful, etc) > > > > Don't know if it's faster, but IPFilter is definitely way more powerful. > > Could you tell us why ? Can you do statefull filtering of TCP, UDP and ICMP streams with ipfw ? (this includes icmp errors and fragmented packets [ADSL anyone ? ...]). Does the TCP state filtering engine in ipfw actually checks sequence numbers and window sizes ? Is there something like "block return-icmp-as-dest (port-unr) ..." in ipfw ? Is there a concept similiar to the head/group thing in ipfw ? Can you save/restore to/from disk filter and NAT state entries ? Can you redirect traffic to many internal boxes with a round-robin mechanism ? And last but not least, can you use the same rule set on a Solaris box, on {Free,Open,Net}BSD, on BSDi, on HPUX etc... > A lot of people here (including me) would like to know about > ipfilter... Check the ipfilter web site and the ipfilter how-to. -- Rémi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 11:54:21 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 11:54:19 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C4C37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:54:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from gorean.org (Studded@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA37363; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:54:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Sender: doug@dt051n37.san.rr.com Message-ID: <3A33DF62.2D833A72@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:54:10 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: void Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: doc bug in pw.conf? References: <20001207224757.A16183@firedrake.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG void wrote: > > I ran "pw useradd -D" to create pw.conf, and found this in it: > > # Space separated list of available shells (without paths) > shells = "sh","csh","tcsh" > > That doesn't look like a space-separated list to me, but anyway it > works. First, this isn't suitable for -stable, it really belongs on -questions. Second, you're much more likely to get a response by filing a PR on this subject. Yes, it does indeed look like a bug. Thanks, Doug -- So what I want to know is, where does the RED brick road go? Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 12:19:23 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 12:19:20 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ADB6437B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:19:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17971 invoked by uid 0); 10 Dec 2000 20:19:18 -0000 Received: from p3ee2167b.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.226.22.123) by mail.gmx.net (mail08) with SMTP; 10 Dec 2000 20:19:18 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23061 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:16:31 +0100 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:16:31 +0100 From: Gerhard Sittig To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: ssh port broken? Message-ID: <20001210181631.G27042@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-stable References: <3A32C7D7.68C5815C@quake.com.au> <20001210093348.F27042@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20001210093348.F27042@speedy.gsinet>; from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 09:33:48AM +0100 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 09:33 +0100, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:01 +1100, Kal Torak wrote: > > > > When I recently tried to make the ssh port on 4.2 Stable, it > > breaks when checking for xauth... > > You did check your config files, didn't you? > > Newer ssh programs default to *not* forward X sessions. This > has been discussed lately a hundred times. You should have > noticed when running mergemaster or when eyeballing the newly > installed config for needed customization. :) Ummm, I just realized that I must have misread the original question. Just ignore my complaint ... For a lame excuse: I've been fooled by the fact that it's not intuitive to use the ssh _port_ in today's FreeBSD systems. One could assume the ssh programs to exist in binary form already after successful installation. :-] virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 12:21:13 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 12:21:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAE037B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:21:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from symmetric.net (216-80-54-139.d.enteract.com [216.80.54.139]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA93241 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:21:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from presence@symmetric.net) Message-ID: <3A33E5C3.2897B417@symmetric.net> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:21:23 -0600 From: "Ken \\" Escape Meta Alt Control Shift\ " Kanno" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: MFS sizes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am not able to create MFS ramdisks larger than about 500MB. This seems to be because I nor mkfs are able to malloc more than 520185 k of RAM. I've tried 768 and 1024MB of RAM in my machine as well as swap sized of 256 and 1024MB. is there a reason for this limit or a workaround? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 12:27:48 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 12:27:44 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FF637B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:27:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id eBAKRWn04120; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:27:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:27:32 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Ken Escape Meta Alt Control Shift Kanno Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MFS sizes Message-ID: <20001210122732.K16205@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <3A33E5C3.2897B417@symmetric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A33E5C3.2897B417@symmetric.net>; from presence@symmetric.net on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 02:21:23PM -0600 Sender: bright@fw.wintelcom.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Ken " Escape Meta Alt Control Shift Kanno [001210 12:21] wrote: > I am not able to create MFS ramdisks larger than about 500MB. This seems to be > because I nor mkfs are able to malloc more than 520185 k of RAM. I've tried 768 > and 1024MB of RAM in my machine as well as swap sized of 256 and 1024MB. > > is there a reason for this limit or a workaround? You need to increase MAXDSIZ in your kernel as the MFS is allocated inside a process's address space. Why do you need such a large ram disk? -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 13:18:55 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 13:18:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5505037B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:18:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 145Drs-000HoU-00; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:18:48 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:18:45 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Ken Escape Meta Alt Control Shift Kanno , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MFS sizes In-Reply-To: <20001210122732.K16205@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Ken " Escape Meta Alt Control Shift Kanno [001210 12:21] wrote: > > I am not able to create MFS ramdisks larger than about 500MB. This seems to be > > because I nor mkfs are able to malloc more than 520185 k of RAM. I've tried 768 > > and 1024MB of RAM in my machine as well as swap sized of 256 and 1024MB. > > > > is there a reason for this limit or a workaround? > > You need to increase MAXDSIZ in your kernel as the MFS is allocated inside > a process's address space. BTW, You can just use ulimit or login.conf settings instead. The days of recompiling the kernel for every change are nearly over. Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 13:51:14 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 13:51:12 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spitfire.velocet.net (spitfire.velocet.net [209.167.225.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE1937B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from magus (anime.ca [204.138.55.45]) by spitfire.velocet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6347D19A11B; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:51:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003101c062f3$4a9eccf0$0300a8c0@magus> From: "William Wong" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= , References: <00dd01c05e2e$e42a0700$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <20001210111051.F86825@elvis.mu.org> <20001210194648.B22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:51:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rémi Guyomarch" To: Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 1:46 PM Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:10:51AM -0600, Bill Fumerola wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 11:22:47AM +0100, Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 06:15:02PM -0200, Antonio Carlos Pina wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I believe (sorry if I'm wrong) that you can't use DUMMYNET with IPFILTER, > > > > only with IPFW. > > > > > > You're wrong. > > > > Actually, _you're_ wrong. DUMMYNET is very ipfw specific. > > Check the mail archives. You can use both firewall packages at the > same time. If you want to use IPFilter, then simply add it to the > kernel config, along with IPFIREWALL (ipfw) and DUMMYNET : > > options IPFIREWALL > options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT > options DUMMYNET > options IPFILTER > options IPFILTER_LOG If it is possible to use both packages at the same time, which gets processed first? - Will To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 14:15:16 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 14:15:14 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8E737B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:15:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id eBAMFAa06957; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:15:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:15:10 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Tom Cc: Ken Escape Meta Alt Control Shift Kanno , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MFS sizes Message-ID: <20001210141509.O16205@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20001210122732.K16205@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tom@uniserve.com on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 01:18:45PM -0800 Sender: bright@fw.wintelcom.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Tom [001210 13:18] wrote: > On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > * Ken " Escape Meta Alt Control Shift Kanno [001210 12:21] wrote: > > > I am not able to create MFS ramdisks larger than about 500MB. This seems to be > > > because I nor mkfs are able to malloc more than 520185 k of RAM. I've tried 768 > > > and 1024MB of RAM in my machine as well as swap sized of 256 and 1024MB. > > > > > > is there a reason for this limit or a workaround? > > > > You need to increase MAXDSIZ in your kernel as the MFS is allocated inside > > a process's address space. > > BTW, You can just use ulimit or login.conf settings instead. The days > of recompiling the kernel for every change are nearly over. That's incorrect. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 14:23:17 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 14:23:15 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genesis.k.pl (genesis.korbank.pl [195.117.162.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BC637B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ns88@localhost) by genesis.k.pl (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBAMM4b97500; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:22:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ns88) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:22:04 +0100 From: Tomasz Paszkowski To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20001210232204.A1972@genesis.k.pl> References: <00dd01c05e2e$e42a0700$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <002301c062bd$2aeb0440$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001210202817.C22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001210202817.C22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net>; from rguyom@pobox.com on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:28:17PM +0100 Sender: ns88@genesis.k.pl Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:28:17PM +0100, Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > Can you redirect traffic to many internal boxes with a round-robin > mechanism ? man natd -- _ _ _ _ _ / \ | | / / / \ / \ --- Tomasz Paszkowski ------------------------------ | |\ \| | \ \ |/ \||/ \| === IPv4://3575244866 === IPNg://3ffe:8010:59::2 === /_/ \__/ /_/ \_/ \_/ ---------------------------- ( 2B | ~ 2B ) == FF --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 14:37:59 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 14:37:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.cluster.oleane.net (smtp1.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A55837B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (dyn-1-1-001.Orl.dialup.oleane.fr [195.25.26.1]) by smtp1.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id eBAMbrl71516 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:37:54 +0100 (CET) Received: by diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9BA6D244; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:33:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:33:59 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20001210233359.E22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> References: <00dd01c05e2e$e42a0700$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <20001210111051.F86825@elvis.mu.org> <20001210194648.B22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <003101c062f3$4a9eccf0$0300a8c0@magus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <003101c062f3$4a9eccf0$0300a8c0@magus>; from willwong@anime.ca on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 04:51:02PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 04:51:02PM -0500, William Wong wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rémi Guyomarch" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 1:46 PM > Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? ... > > You can use both firewall packages at the > > same time. If you want to use IPFilter, then simply add it to the > > kernel config, along with IPFIREWALL (ipfw) and DUMMYNET : > > > > options IPFIREWALL > > options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT > > options DUMMYNET > > options IPFILTER > > options IPFILTER_LOG > > If it is possible to use both packages at the same time, which gets > processed first? Reading the source (sys/netinet/ip_{input,output}.c), I think ipfilter get the packet first, then ipfw + dummynet. -- Rémi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 14:39:10 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 14:39:08 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0606537B400; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:39:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.211.149]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:37:27 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eBAMcvj16898; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:38:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:38:57 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Donn Miller Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , rsowders@usgs.gov, Kal Torak , FreeBSD-stable , owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh port broken? Message-ID: <20001210143857.O96105@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <3A335B8C.512F8D71@cvzoom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3A335B8C.512F8D71@cvzoom.net>; from dmmiller@cvzoom.net on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 05:31:40AM -0500 Sender: cjc@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 05:31:40AM -0500, Donn Miller wrote: > Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > > n recent FreeBSD releases, sshd is enabled by default. > > This is not good. All services should be disabled out of the box. [snip] Oh, has it been a month already? Time for this thread to start on -stable, -current, -security, or -questions again? When you can convince everyone to turn off telnet and ftp by default (via inetd), _then_ start complaining about ssh. In the monthly rehashes of this thread, it is very clear that those who make the decisions about such things are not going to be changing this any time soon. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 15: 3:14 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 15:03:12 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (unknown [216.152.64.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3CA37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:03:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from whenever ([216.152.68.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:02:05 -0800 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Michael Bacarella" Cc: "Noor Dawod" , Subject: RE: MySQLd not using both CPUs Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:03:11 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <20001210112921.A5531@mmap.nyct.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry to continue this thread, but I think this last point is of sufficient general interest. I'll shut up now. ;) > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 12:54:01AM -0800, David Schwartz wrote: > I think the whole 1 thread to 1 process scheme that LinuxThreads > uses would > be much slower under FreeBSD. Unless some magic has been put in > to special case this scheme in the scheduler... you'll probably see > better performance running LinuxThreads with Linux. > > -- > Michael Bacarella This is why I say that LinuxThreads is better for _good_ code and libc_r is better for _poor_ code. Good code does not create more running threads than there are processes to run them on. Bad code creates tons of senseless threads, which libc_r schedules just fine and the kernel does not. If you create a thread to keep a CPU busy, then there should be a CPU to run that thread on. If you create a thread to pend a disk I/O operation, then that thread should be blocked waiting for the I/O to complete. So long as you only create threads for a legitimate reason, you will not cripple the scheduler. If you assume 2 CPUs and perhaps one can usefully pend 6 I/O operations, you're talking about 8 threads. Add another few threads so you can have one to wait for signals, one to fire timers, one to talk to a library that might not be thread safe, and you have perhaps 12 threads. If that hurts FreeBSD's scheduler, then FreeBSD is badly broken. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 15: 7:57 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 15:07:54 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.cluster.oleane.net (smtp2.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10ADC37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (dyn-1-1-015.Orl.dialup.oleane.fr [195.25.26.15]) by smtp2.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id eBAN7jO46474 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:07:46 +0100 (CET) Received: by diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8016E27D; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:05:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:05:51 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20001211000551.F22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> References: <00dd01c05e2e$e42a0700$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <002301c062bd$2aeb0440$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001210202817.C22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <20001210232204.A1972@genesis.k.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001210232204.A1972@genesis.k.pl>; from ns88@k.pl on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:22:04PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:22:04PM +0100, Tomasz Paszkowski wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:28:17PM +0100, Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > > Can you redirect traffic to many internal boxes with a round-robin > > mechanism ? > > man natd You got me on that one ;-) Ok, so I add another one : does ipfw support IPv6 stateful filtering ? Yes, ipfw can filter IPv6 packets, but : - reading the source, it seems to me that ip6fw doesn't have his IPv4 counterpart's stateful additions. - the source is not in the same file, which imply that the two filters might not have the same behaviour / possibilities. - if any, where are those differences documented ? And yes, the ipfilter shipped in fbsd-4.2 isn't configured to filter IPv6. I don't know exactly why, but the patch is in ipfilter's 3.4.14 distribution. -- Rémi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 17: 1:33 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 17:01:28 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from homer.softweyr.com (bsdconspiracy.net [208.187.122.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A7937B400; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:01:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=softweyr.com ident=Fools trust ident!) by homer.softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 145HOi-0000C8-00; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:04:56 -0700 Sender: wes@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3A342838.2345F03@softweyr.com> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:04:56 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Chad R. Larson" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCIOCGETCONF/PCIOCREAD requires write permission? References: <200012080707.AAA12102@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20001208115004.B81619@dragon.nuxi.com> <3A333CE4.5B9FDA92@newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > > David O'Brien wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 12:07:49AM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > > I thought the space staked out by the *BSD gang was approximately > > > this: > > > NetBSD - the least amount of platform-specific code possible; run > > > on most anything > > > OpenBSD - pro-active security, bullet-proof from attacks > > > FreeBSD - best performing on the Intel PC platform > > > > s/the Intel PC/server/ The Alpha has very good I/O bandwidth and 64-bit > > address space. Thus it fits our niche. You also mentioned Sparc, but > > really should have said sparc64(pci based). > > > > hopefully embeded soon too. > > Yep, "server" is much more to the point. And not simply best performing, > but we also strive to be user-friendly. > > The bottomline is that we, of the BSDs, do *not* have a focus. We want > to support good servers and good desktops and good notebooks, we want to > provide performance and user friendlyness. We do not care about being > ported to every hardware platform under sun, and we do not go out of our > way to provide security. Thus, NetBSD and OpenBSD have the edge on us on > these respects, but we gain by providing a better overall enviroment on > the platforms we support. The problem is that you can't one-line that. BSD for the masses. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 17: 8: 1 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 17:07:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from homer.softweyr.com (bsdconspiracy.net [208.187.122.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A468737B400; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:07:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=softweyr.com ident=Fools trust ident!) by homer.softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 145HUn-0000CG-00; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:11:13 -0700 Sender: wes@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3A3429B0.A389F032@softweyr.com> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:11:12 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Warner Losh , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Chad R. Larson" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCIOCGETCONF/PCIOCREAD requires write permission? References: <3A333CE4.5B9FDA92@newsguy.com> <200012080707.AAA12102@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20001208115004.B81619@dragon.nuxi.com> <200012100901.CAA27464@harmony.village.org> <3A334EEB.5833CE81@newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > > Warner Losh wrote: > > > > In message <3A333CE4.5B9FDA92@newsguy.com> "Daniel C. Sobral" writes: > > : ported to every hardware platform under sun, and we do not go out of our > > : way to provide security. Thus, NetBSD and OpenBSD have the edge on us on > > > > What? I don't see how you can say that about security... > > We don't go *out* of our way. And just because OpenBSD has an *edge*, > that doesn't mean said edge is all that big. FreeBSD balances security concerns with usability, whereas OpenBSD goes for the "security" choice every time. This makes one of the systems more secure without user tuning, the other more functional without user tuning. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 17:45:41 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 17:45:38 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4DE37B404 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:45:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1098) id E8B922B2B1; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 19:45:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 19:45:32 -0600 From: Bill Fumerola To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20001210194532.H86825@elvis.mu.org> References: <00dd01c05e2e$e42a0700$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <20001210111051.F86825@elvis.mu.org> <20001210194648.B22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001210194648.B22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net>; from rguyom@pobox.com on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 07:46:48PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-FEARSOME-20001103 i386 Sender: billf@elvis.mu.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 07:46:48PM +0100, Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > > Actually, _you're_ wrong. DUMMYNET is very ipfw specific. > > Check the mail archives. You can use both firewall packages at the > same time. If you want to use IPFilter, then simply add it to the > kernel config, along with IPFIREWALL (ipfw) and DUMMYNET : > > options IPFIREWALL > options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT > options DUMMYNET > options IPFILTER > options IPFILTER_LOG I'm very familiar with ipfw's workings, thanks. The fact remains that DUMMYNET works with IPFIREWALL only. IPFILTER works in unison with IPFIREWALL(aka ipfw), but you can't use DUMMYNET pipes with IPFILTER rules.. -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - fumerola@yahoo-inc.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 17:47:53 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 17:47:50 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cortez.sitemajic.net (unknown [208.153.40.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E7D37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:47:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from apache@localhost) by cortez.sitemajic.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBB1sZk32118; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:54:35 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: kernel/ scsi + disk error messages Message-ID: <976499675.3a3433dbc4c07@www.sitemajic.net> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:54:35 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Jesseman Cc: chris@sitemajic.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 204.38.56.104 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where can I find more about these error messages (they are happening more frequently now)? /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 2 21 67 e9 0 0 2 0 /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Deferred Error: ABORTED COMMAND info:2215abf asc:8,1 /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Logical unit communication time-out field replaceable unit: 1 I asked questions@ and searched web for similar strings- no luck. Any suggestions are very much appreciated! Thank you, Chris Jesseman --more--> 4.1 -STABLE system from dmesg (at boot) ahc0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xffaff000- 0xffafffff irq 10 at device 20.0 on pci0 ahc0: aic7892 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ------ Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 17522MB (35885168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2233C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 17:58:50 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 17:58:48 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A774A37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:58:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16608 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:58:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08709; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:58:26 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200012110158.MAA08709@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with video-CDs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:58:26 +1100 Sender: gnb@itga.com.au Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We have tried to read a couple of video-CDs in FreeBSD, but we can't. The same disks are readable on Solaris, and on the very same hardware under Linux and NT, but neither 3.5 nor 4-Stable can read them. Can't mount them or even DD the raw device. Attempting to DD them returns the following error on the console in 4-Stable acd0: READ_BIG - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=64 ascq=00 error=04 and dd gets EIO. On 3.5 dd gets EIO but no console message. Is this a known problem? Worthy of a PR? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 18: 2:19 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 18:02:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCDF37B402 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:02:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1098) id A42762B2B1; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:02:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:02:04 -0600 From: Bill Fumerola To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20001210200204.I86825@elvis.mu.org> References: <00dd01c05e2e$e42a0700$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <002301c062bd$2aeb0440$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001210202817.C22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001210202817.C22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net>; from rguyom@pobox.com on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:28:17PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-FEARSOME-20001103 i386 Sender: billf@elvis.mu.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:28:17PM +0100, Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > Can you do statefull filtering of TCP, UDP and ICMP streams with ipfw > ? (this includes icmp errors and fragmented packets [ADSL anyone ? ...]). I'm not sure about the ICMP part, but the tcp and udp work. > Does the TCP state filtering engine in ipfw actually checks sequence > numbers and window sizes ? No, but that would be trivial to implement(at least window sizes). > Is there something like "block return-icmp-as-dest (port-unr) ..." in > ipfw ? man ipfw > Is there a concept similiar to the head/group thing in ipfw ? After some research in ipf(5) as to what "the head/group thing" was, it seems you could produce the same type of functionality with: (rules are intentionally stupid and shouldn't be used) 300 skipto 1000 tcp from any to any 400 skipto 2000 udp from any to any 500 skipto 3000 icmp from any to any [...] 1000 deny tcp from badguy to goodguy 1010 deny tcp from any to any tcpseq 0 tcpoptions !mss 1999 allow ip from any to any 2001 pass udp from nameserver to me 2500 deny udp from badmrudpflooder to me 2999 allow ip from any to any 3000 allow icmp from me to any 3050 deny icmp from any to any 3999 allow ip from any to any #not needed [...] 65535 allow ip from any to any The only thing different from ipf/ipfw is that ipf seems to use its own namespace for such things, while ipfw abuses rule numbering. > Can you save/restore to/from disk filter and NAT state entries ? for filters: man vi for state entries: no > Can you redirect traffic to many internal boxes with a round-robin > mechanism ? man natd -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - fumerola@yahoo-inc.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 19:36:43 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 19:36:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mercure.IRO.UMontreal.CA (mercure.IRO.UMontreal.CA [132.204.24.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3D737B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 19:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from phobos.IRO.UMontreal.CA (IDENT:root@phobos.IRO.UMontreal.CA [132.204.20.20]) by mercure.IRO.UMontreal.CA (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBB3aIm08845; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:36:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (beaupran@localhost) by phobos.IRO.UMontreal.CA (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBB3aGg08856; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:36:16 -0500 Full-Name: Antoine Beaupre Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:36:16 -0500 (EST) From: Antoine Beaupre To: Steve Coltrin Cc: Andre DDAdmin , "'stable@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: pcm0: problem In-Reply-To: <200012080814.eB88E4G28898@code.omcl.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That sounds like an interrupt conflict to me. A. On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Steve Coltrin wrote: > >if I use my mouse to copy and paste stuff, I get sound distortion. > >the faster I move the mouse, the more distortion. > > That's crosstalk in the hardware, and I've _always_ gotten that. > > -spc > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Si l'image donne l'illusion de savoir C'est que l'adage pretend que pour croire, L'important ne serait que de voir Lofofora To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 22:32: 6 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 22:32:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.cluster.oleane.net (smtp1.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86CF37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (dyn-1-1-020.Orl.dialup.oleane.fr [195.25.26.20]) by smtp1.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id eBB6Vwd91552 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:31:59 +0100 (CET) Received: by diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 63F903EE; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:27:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:27:01 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20001211072701.I22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> References: <00dd01c05e2e$e42a0700$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <20001210111051.F86825@elvis.mu.org> <20001210194648.B22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <20001210194532.H86825@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001210194532.H86825@elvis.mu.org>; from billf@mu.org on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 07:45:32PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 07:45:32PM -0600, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 07:46:48PM +0100, Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > > > > Actually, _you're_ wrong. DUMMYNET is very ipfw specific. > > > > Check the mail archives. You can use both firewall packages at the > > same time. If you want to use IPFilter, then simply add it to the > > kernel config, along with IPFIREWALL (ipfw) and DUMMYNET : > > > > options IPFIREWALL > > options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT > > options DUMMYNET > > options IPFILTER > > options IPFILTER_LOG > > I'm very familiar with ipfw's workings, thanks. The fact remains > that DUMMYNET works with IPFIREWALL only. IPFILTER works in unison > with IPFIREWALL(aka ipfw), but you can't use DUMMYNET pipes with > IPFILTER rules.. Yes, you're right. But the (user-level) fact is, you can use ipf and dummynet on the same machine without troubles (beside the fact that packets rejected / dropped by ipf won't be seen by dummynet). -- Rémi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 22:32: 8 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 22:32:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.cluster.oleane.net (smtp1.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6B237B401 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (dyn-1-1-020.Orl.dialup.oleane.fr [195.25.26.20]) by smtp1.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id eBB6Vwd91551 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:31:59 +0100 (CET) Received: by diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E3E0027D; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:22:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:22:44 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20001211072244.H22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> References: <00dd01c05e2e$e42a0700$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <002301c062bd$2aeb0440$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001210202817.C22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <20001210200204.I86825@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001210200204.I86825@elvis.mu.org>; from billf@mu.org on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:02:04PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:02:04PM -0600, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:28:17PM +0100, Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > > > Is there something like "block return-icmp-as-dest (port-unr) ..." in > > ipfw ? > > man ipfw It's not clear to me that wether ipfw returns an icmp with src == the firewall's ip or with src == the previous packet's destination ip. Ipf allow you to choose between return-icmp and return-icmp-as-dest. > > Is there a concept similiar to the head/group thing in ipfw ? > > After some research in ipf(5) as to what "the head/group thing" was, > it seems you could produce the same type of functionality with: [...the skipto keyword...] > > The only thing different from ipf/ipfw is that ipf seems to use > its own namespace for such things, while ipfw abuses rule numbering. Yes, ipfw abuses rule numbering. Things will get a bit complex with ipfw if you want to emulate something like that : block in proto proto tcp from any to any head 10 block in proto proto udp from any to any head 20 block in proto proto icmp from any to any head 30 [...group 10...] [...group 20...] [...group 30...] [...some other rules...] Without 'quick' in 'head' rules, ipf will process the entiere group 10 rules, and will continue with the next, non-group rule (the first rule in [...some other rules...]). Yes, you can achieve the same thing with 'skipto' but at some point you will start to have troubles managing rules numbering... > > Can you save/restore to/from disk filter and NAT state entries ? > > for filters: > man vi Do you mean you can export dynamic rules with ipfw, write them to a file and reload them later ? > for state entries: > no > > > Can you redirect traffic to many internal boxes with a round-robin > > mechanism ? > > man natd Yes, I browsed natd(8) a bit too fast. -- Rémi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 10 22:41: 6 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 22:41:03 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c008.sfo.cp.net (c008-h007.c008.sfo.cp.net [209.228.14.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 330AA37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:41:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (cpmta 19267 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2000 22:41:02 -0800 Date: 10 Dec 2000 22:41:02 -0800 Message-ID: <20001211064102.19266.cpmta@c008.sfo.cp.net> X-Sent: 11 Dec 2000 06:41:02 GMT Received: from [164.164.56.2] by mail.123india.com with HTTP; 10 Dec 2000 22:41:02 PST Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org From: gbnaidu@123india.com X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.8.1.2 Subject: Upgrading from Ver 4.0 to ver 4.1 STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I need some help regarding the upgradation. Currently my system is running FreeBSD ver 4.0 installed using CD. Now I would like to upgrade it to ver 4.1 STABLE. I am planning to synchronize my local source tree with ver4.1 sources. Iam using cvsup for this. Here is my supfile: ---------- start of supfile -------- *default host=cvsup2.FreeBSD.org *default prefix=/usr/src *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress src-all tag=RELENG_4_1_0_RELEASE ----------- End of supfile ----------- I am trying to sync only the /usr/src directory. Can I use a separate directory for sources rather than the standard /usr/src and upgrade my system? I need a clarification whether this will overwrite the existing source files of ver 4.0. I think it overwrites. If it overwrites, and later if I come across any problem in compilation of Version 4.1, what is the best way to get back to version 4.0? I am planning to take a backup of the current 4.0 /usr/src files and then overwrite them using cvsup with version 4.1 files. what I am doing is correct? Doing make world is enough to build the new vresion 4.1? Thanks in Advance --gb ______________________________________________________ 123India.com - India's Premier Portal Get your Free Email Account at http://www.123india.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 3:24:42 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 03:24:34 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5C737B69B for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:24:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from plab.ku.dk (plab.ku.dk [130.225.105.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FCE6E3037 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 02:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by plab.ku.dk (8.11.0/8.9.3) id eBBAP6C86235 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org.AVP; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:25:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from postmaster@plab.ku.dk) Received: from raven.plab.ku.dk (raven.plab.ku.dk [130.225.105.67]) by plab.ku.dk (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBBAP5686227 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:25:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from postmaster@plab.ku.dk) In-Reply-To: Nora Etukudo's message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2000 12:27:47 +0100" Subject: Re: crypt() default behavior Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <3A2F9680.A16C609D@triplan.com> <20001208122747.A29665@mail.nxe.de> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Dmitry Karasik X-Comment-To: Nora Etukudo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Lines: 19 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 11 Dec 2000 11:25:07 +0100 X-Mailer: Mail::Mailer[v1.18] Net::SMTP[v2.13] Message-Id: Sender: postmaster@plab.ku.dk Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Nora! On 08 Dec 00 at 12:27, "Nora" (Nora Etukudo) wrote: Nora> DES and MD5 encrypted passwords. Since several years I have the Nora> following a.o. in my post installation script: Nora> .... echo "Linke die MD5-Crypto Bibliotheken ...." ( cd /usr/lib Nora> rm -f libcrypt.a; ln -s libscrypt.a libcrypt.a rm -f libcrypt.so; Thanks a lot, that's the way I like it :) By the way, where can I read more on the topic? Like, why different outputs of perl -le 'print crypt(q(jopa), q(salt))' -- Sincerely, Dmitry --- www.karasik.eu.org --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 3:27: 1 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 03:26:58 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C3037B6FA for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from prserv.net (out1.prserv.net [32.97.166.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8906E2F86 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from attglobal.net ([129.37.172.73]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <2000121109233120102fqi6ne>; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:23:31 +0000 Message-ID: <3A349D42.2397C841@attglobal.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 04:24:20 -0500 From: youlgok@attglobal.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: /dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, All: After completely installing 4.2-stable-20001208, I re-built a custom kernel in order to use parallel port zip drive; however, it just hang when I try to use /dev as instructed in http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/hardware.html#ZIP-SUPPORT and linked page. After that even the shutdown and /stand/sysinstall hang. The zip drive worked well with 3.3-R as it was made by following the same instruction on the web pages. PS. How come 4.2-stable does not have the latest X Window version? While I was trying install a package, it complained the X is too old. I have no idea what went wrong with. Any help would be grateful. Thanks. Have a good new week all. -Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 3:27:49 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 03:27:44 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FD037B772 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from moon.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483EB6E3029 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 02:22:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by moon.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05473; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:06:50 +0200 To: Milan Salajka Subject: Re: mysql: a lot of lost connections... Message-ID: <976529210.3a34a73ad6ecf@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:06:50 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <045901c05f9b$e0303840$dc0014ac@hide.vol.cz> <021301c05fa3$fe3d1da0$6d1663cf@icarz.com> <008901c05fa8$22997280$dc0014ac@hide.vol.cz> In-Reply-To: <008901c05fa8$22997280$dc0014ac@hide.vol.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Milan Salajka : > > Milan, 4.1.1 Release has different thread bugs, at least for me > > MySQL crashed randomly about once per week. > > 4.2-STABLE doesn't work, latest release (4.2) doesn't work, > previous release (4.1.1) has bugs too... uff, what is the > recommended FREEBSD version for MYSQL ? LINUX ? > many people use APACHE, PHP & MYSQL trio on > FreeBSD, but it seems, that RELENG_4 isn't good choice. > > my 'upgrades': 4.2-stable -> 4.2-release -> 4.1.1-release > when it will end ? ;o))) > > Milan I think that for now the best available solution is to run 4.2-STABLE with the incompatible changes (Max pointed at them) backed out. This way you get the pthread fixes which are in 4.2 (and *are* important - our project didn't work well without it, I mean, at all). I may get flamed, but I like Solaris :) (Its threads are better than any other thread implementation I've seen - that's my opinion anyway). --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 3:27:57 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 03:27:51 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B01637B7A4 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:24:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from moon.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27A66E303A for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 02:27:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by moon.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05476; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:12:06 +0200 To: Tom Subject: Re: mysql: a lot of lost connections... Message-ID: <976529526.3a34a876690f1@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:12:06 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Tom : > On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Milan Salajka wrote: > > > > Milan, 4.1.1 Release has different thread bugs, at least for me > > > MySQL crashed randomly about once per week. > > > > 4.2-STABLE doesn't work, latest release (4.2) doesn't work, > > previous release (4.1.1) has bugs too... uff, what is the > > recommended FREEBSD version for MYSQL ? LINUX ? > > many people use APACHE, PHP & MYSQL trio on > > FreeBSD, but it seems, that RELENG_4 isn't good choice. > > > > my 'upgrades': 4.2-stable -> 4.2-release -> 4.1.1-release > > when it will end ? ;o))) > > > > Milan > > As has been mentioned on this list, you can use 4.2-STABLE, but you > must > change the compiler. > > 4.2-RELEASE has a known mutex bug that was discussed on this list and > fixed about two days after the release. Since this was a well-known > bug, > why on earth did you even bother with 4.2-RELEASE? Today I've checked the ERRATA _again_, still no signs of this bug. We're hopefully not trying to hide bugs like some other *BSD folks tend to do sometimes? New users ask in -questions or -stable and receive and answer - oh, yeah, sure, it's known bug. But "known" to who? It's not in the ERRATA, how one's suppose to know it? Can someone add it to errata? Should I create a PR for that purpose? --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 3:30:30 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 03:30:25 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from westhost15.westhost.net (westhost15.westhost.net [216.71.84.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46B637B402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from beast (h0020af68b314.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.189.27]) by westhost15.westhost.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA22676 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 05:33:03 -0600 From: "Paul A. Howes" To: Subject: RE: Upgrading from Ver 4.0 to ver 4.1 STABLE Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 06:28:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20001211064102.19266.cpmta@c008.sfo.cp.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG GB- The tags with "RELEASE" in the name are just that--names created when the release version was cut to CD. The "STABLE" version is the head of the 4.x branch, obtained with the tag, "RELENG_4". Your CVSup file should look something like: *default host=cvsup2.freebsd.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress src-all tag=RELENG_4 doc-all tag=. ports-all tag=. The documentation archive and ports collection are only found on "CURRENT", which is the head of the tree. Always use "tag=." for these two collections. All of this information is in the FreeBSD handbook in Appendix A, "Obtaining FreeBSD". The URL is: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cvsup.html -- Paul A. Howes pahowes@fair-ware.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of gbnaidu@123india.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 1:41 AM To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Upgrading from Ver 4.0 to ver 4.1 STABLE Hi, I need some help regarding the upgradation. Currently my system is running FreeBSD ver 4.0 installed using CD. Now I would like to upgrade it to ver 4.1 STABLE. I am planning to synchronize my local source tree with ver4.1 sources. Iam using cvsup for this. Here is my supfile: ---------- start of supfile -------- *default host=cvsup2.FreeBSD.org *default prefix=/usr/src *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress src-all tag=RELENG_4_1_0_RELEASE ----------- End of supfile ----------- I am trying to sync only the /usr/src directory. Can I use a separate directory for sources rather than the standard /usr/src and upgrade my system? I need a clarification whether this will overwrite the existing source files of ver 4.0. I think it overwrites. If it overwrites, and later if I come across any problem in compilation of Version 4.1, what is the best way to get back to version 4.0? I am planning to take a backup of the current 4.0 /usr/src files and then overwrite them using cvsup with version 4.1 files. what I am doing is correct? Doing make world is enough to build the new vresion 4.1? Thanks in Advance --gb ______________________________________________________ 123India.com - India's Premier Portal Get your Free Email Account at http://www.123india.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 3:36:59 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 03:36:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nevermind.kiev.ua (unknown [212.109.53.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB33037B404 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:36:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from never@localhost) by nevermind.kiev.ua (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBBBacq07541; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:36:38 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from never) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:36:37 +0200 From: Nevermind To: ian j hart Cc: "stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Need some additional help (Re: Building ISO image) Message-ID: <20001211133637.C657@nevermind.kiev.ua> References: <20001123130309.B1019@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20001124004748.A1492@canyon.demon.nl> <20001208171436.C1051@nevermind.kiev.ua> <3A32D095.5F4AC4F7@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A32D095.5F4AC4F7@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk>; from ianjhart@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 12:38:45AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, ian j hart! On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 12:38:45AM +0000, you wrote: > Nevermind wrote: > > [snip old thread] > > > I just wanted to ask what ports is needed when building NOPORTS=no? > > NOPORTS=no doesn't do what you think. example: > > .if defined(NOPORTS) && !defined(NODOC) > > You probably want > #NOPORTS= yes > ^ > | > comment > > > > > Is there any list for me, that I can check and decide if I have needed > > distfiles? I'm asking because we are paying for our internet connection by > > traffic and I don't want that my machine will fetch a lot of distfiles. > > The makefile is tortuous to say the least. IIRC you get the ports tree > skeleton plus the readmes are built. You also get a copy of all the > files in DOCDISTFILES. This can be quite large . No files are > fetched. What you can do is change DOCDISTFILES to point to an empty > directory. [nyam-nyam] > Last time I tried this (pre 4.2R) something was broken, so I did without > DOC or PORTS. > Thanx a lot, it works the way you said. -- Alexandr P. Kovalenko http://nevermind.kiev.ua/ NEVE-RIPE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 3:58:46 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 03:58:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6E437B6DD; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBD76E2FC4; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:48:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBB9n3P89563; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:49:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:49:03 +0100 (CET) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: kernel option NBUF, what does ist means? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs. For non kernel developer the additional options in LINT for kernel configuration are little secrets and it is said, that some of them could 'tweak' a standard kernel to be more powerful when getting tweaked and the system it runs on is to be a server (I read some articles about Linux vs. FreeBSD in a German magazine and it has been mentioned that tweaking makes FreeBSD faster for serving purposes). One of the secret parameters seems to be NBUFS. it is set to 512 in LINT, I set it to 4096 this time to see whats going on. Can anyone offer me a hint on this parameter? For servers which are accessed as SAMBA and Webservers, what parameters are worth to be watched and set? What parameters (those are not explained) are useful for machines which should act as number crunchers? Thanks in advance, Oliver - MfG O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver-Abteilung des IPA IT Netz- und Systembetreuung Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 D-55099 Mainz BRD/Germany Tel: +496131/3924662 Tel: +496131/3924152 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 4: 2:27 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 04:02:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF9C37B404 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 04:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024A06E2DB3 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:45:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 145Ncw-0004EI-00; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:44:02 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:43:55 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: gbnaidu@123india.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Upgrading from Ver 4.0 to ver 4.1 STABLE In-Reply-To: <20001211064102.19266.cpmta@c008.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10 Dec 2000 gbnaidu@123india.com wrote: > Hi, > > I need some help regarding the upgradation. Currently my system is > running FreeBSD ver 4.0 installed using CD. Now I would like to > upgrade it to ver 4.1 STABLE. > > I am planning to synchronize my local source tree with ver4.1 sources. > Iam using cvsup for this. Here is my supfile: ---------- start of If you've never done this before, use /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile and just chnge the Cvsup server. The file you've supplied here probably won't do what you want. ... > I am trying to sync only the /usr/src directory. That is all cvsup ever does. > Can I use a separate directory for sources rather than the standard > /usr/src and upgrade my system? ... I suppose it is possible, but using cvsup on existing tree is much faster, as only changed files are downloaded. If you have a problem with the "buildworld" step, there is no reason to try to go back to the 4.0-RELEASE source code, since you are already running 4.0-RELEASE you don't need to compile it. Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 4: 9: 2 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 04:08:56 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA02C37B6A9; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 04:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5326E2E9B; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA54241; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:02:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Sender: des@ofug.org X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Wes Peters Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Chad R. Larson" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCIOCGETCONF/PCIOCREAD requires write permission? References: <200012080707.AAA12102@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20001208115004.B81619@dragon.nuxi.com> <3A333CE4.5B9FDA92@newsguy.com> <3A342838.2345F03@softweyr.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 11 Dec 2000 10:02:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: Wes Peters's message of "Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:04:56 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wes Peters writes: > BSD for the masses. "BSD on every desk and in every home" DES (ducks, runs) -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 4: 9:26 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 04:09:20 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E28537B6F0 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 04:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8876E2EDD for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:09:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA54255; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:07:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Sender: des@ofug.org X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Antoine Beaupre Cc: Steve Coltrin , Andre DDAdmin , "'stable@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: pcm0: problem References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 11 Dec 2000 10:07:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: Antoine Beaupre's message of "Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:36:16 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Antoine Beaupre writes: > That sounds like an interrupt conflict to me. Not necessarily. Could be just cheap hardware. I used to have a box where you could detect harddisk activity by listening to the output of the (on-board) audio codec. The sound wouldn't skip or loop or anything you'd expect from an IRQ conflict; you'd just hear a thin but very noticeable high-pitched warble, even when there wasn't any sound playing. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 6:12:17 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 06:12:15 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9D137B402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 06:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id eBBECDs71554 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:12:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.11.1/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id eBBECBm11774 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:12:12 +0100 (MET) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02919 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:12:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michel) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:12:11 +0100 From: Michel Talon To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: /dev and //port Message-ID: <20001211151211.B2877@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Stable References: <3A349D42.2397C841@attglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <3A349D42.2397C841@attglobal.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 04:24:20AM -0500, youlgok@attglobal.net wrote: > Hi, All: > > After completely installing 4.2-stable-20001208, I re-built a custom > kernel in order to use parallel port zip drive; however, it just hang > when I try to use /dev as instructed in There is no need to rebuild anything to use // port Zip drive. Just kldload vpo (assuming you have plugged the zip and powered it--check with dmesg that it has been probed) After that you mount it. For example if it is dos formatted in slice 4 (the standard way) mount -t msdos /dev/da0s4 /mnt -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 6:52:46 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 06:52:44 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from katmai.coolfire.com (katmai.coolfire.com [216.2.206.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E20837B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 06:52:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from itsdept ([216.2.206.138]) by katmai.coolfire.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA15610 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:52:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jose@coolfire.com) From: "Jose Novoa" To: Subject: please add my e-mail to the following suscriptions Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:52:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all thanks, Jose Novoa Coolfire Interactive Lead Technologist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 7:24:32 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 07:24:29 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.salford.ac.uk (pan.salford.ac.uk [146.87.255.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBD0A37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24060 invoked by alias); 11 Dec 2000 15:24:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24054 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2000 15:24:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO plato.salford.ac.uk) (146.87.255.76) by pan.salford.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Dec 2000 15:24:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 36285 invoked by uid 141); 11 Dec 2000 15:24:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Dec 2000 15:24:21 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:24:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Powell To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Different gcc optimisations cause IP packet CRC problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On a PIII 600E, compiling a week old 4.2S kernel with the following options: -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -mpentium -march=pentium -pipe Cause the kernel to produce TCP CRC errors when talking to certain IP addresses. It generally seemed to get the 2nd octet of the CRC out by one i.e. 0xb9f7 became 0xbaf7 etc. I originally did this, because I was using this fastish machine to remake world for another P166 machine. I forgot to change it back and accidentally recompiled it's own kernel with the above settings. This problem was fixed by simply changing the gcc optimisation to the correct CPU type: -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -mpentiumpro -march=pentiumpro -pipe However, shouldn't the PIII be backwards compatible with any Pentium code? Or are there some incorrect assumptions made in the CRC generation code? Cheers. BTW Where in the source is the CRC generated? Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - The University of Salford Academic Information Services, Clifford Whitworth Building, Salford University, Manchester, M5 4WT, UK. Tel: +44 161 295 5936 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 7:32:49 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 07:32:46 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E25B37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from HP2500B (veldy.net [64.1.117.28]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B5A318C13; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:32:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00af01c06387$1ecb5230$9c29680a@tgt.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Mark Powell" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Different gcc optimisations cause IP packet CRC problems Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:29:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I generally don't compile the kernel with any optimizations except "-O -pipe". I never have a problem - and I don't have any performance differences that have been noticable. Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Powell" To: Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:24 AM Subject: Different gcc optimisations cause IP packet CRC problems > Hi, > On a PIII 600E, compiling a week old 4.2S kernel with the following > options: > > -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -mpentium -march=pentium -pipe > > Cause the kernel to produce TCP CRC errors when talking to certain IP > addresses. It generally seemed to get the 2nd octet of the CRC out by one > i.e. 0xb9f7 became 0xbaf7 etc. > I originally did this, because I was using this fastish machine to > remake world for another P166 machine. I forgot to change it back and > accidentally recompiled it's own kernel with the above settings. > This problem was fixed by simply changing the gcc optimisation to the > correct CPU type: > > -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -mpentiumpro -march=pentiumpro -pipe > > However, shouldn't the PIII be backwards compatible with any Pentium code? > Or are there some incorrect assumptions made in the CRC generation code? > Cheers. > > BTW Where in the source is the CRC generated? > > Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - The University of Salford > Academic Information Services, Clifford Whitworth Building, > Salford University, Manchester, M5 4WT, UK. > Tel: +44 161 295 5936 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 7:34:24 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 07:34:22 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.salford.ac.uk (pan.salford.ac.uk [146.87.255.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E612237B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30462 invoked by alias); 11 Dec 2000 15:34:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 30449 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2000 15:34:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO plato.salford.ac.uk) (146.87.255.76) by pan.salford.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Dec 2000 15:34:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 36306 invoked by uid 141); 11 Dec 2000 15:34:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Dec 2000 15:34:19 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:34:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Powell To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Different gcc optimisations cause IP packet CRC problems In-Reply-To: <00af01c06387$1ecb5230$9c29680a@tgt.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > I generally don't compile the kernel with any optimizations except > "-O -pipe". I never have a problem - and I don't have any performance > differences that have been noticable. Well okay. But this isn't supposed to happen. Is it? Cheers. Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - The University of Salford Academic Information Services, Clifford Whitworth Building, Salford University, Manchester, M5 4WT, UK. Tel: +44 161 295 5936 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 7:36:40 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 07:36:38 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E597437B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:36:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 509CC13613; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:36:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:36:38 -0500 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Mark Powell Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Different gcc optimisations cause IP packet CRC problems Message-ID: <20001211103638.A21163@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Mark Powell , "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <00af01c06387$1ecb5230$9c29680a@tgt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 03:34:19PM +0000 Sender: cdf.lists@fxp.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 03:34:19PM +0000, Mark Powell wrote: > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > > I generally don't compile the kernel with any optimizations except > > "-O -pipe". I never have a problem - and I don't have any performance > > differences that have been noticable. > > Well okay. But this isn't supposed to happen. Is it? No, but you may want to review the mailing list archives since GCC optimization problems have been rehash many times (see also the notes in /etc/defaults/make.conf WRT optimization). -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 7:45: 6 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 07:45:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.salford.ac.uk (pan.salford.ac.uk [146.87.255.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A49F537B402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:45:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 37234 invoked by alias); 11 Dec 2000 15:45:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 37217 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2000 15:45:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO plato.salford.ac.uk) (146.87.255.76) by pan.salford.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Dec 2000 15:45:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 36350 invoked by uid 141); 11 Dec 2000 15:45:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Dec 2000 15:45:02 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:45:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Powell To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Different gcc optimisations cause IP packet CRC problems In-Reply-To: <20001211103638.A21163@peitho.fxp.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Chris Faulhaber wrote: > No, but you may want to review the mailing list archives since GCC > optimization problems have been rehash many times (see also the notes > in /etc/defaults/make.conf WRT optimization). I hadn't seen those comments. I didn't think gcc could be *that* broken. Cheers. Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - The University of Salford Academic Information Services, Clifford Whitworth Building, Salford University, Manchester, M5 4WT, UK. Tel: +44 161 295 5936 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 7:48:46 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 07:48:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFCE37B402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [208.184.13.195]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A14DC98C for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:48:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [208.184.13.196]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E0C2E443 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:48:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBBFmZW47764; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:48:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14900.63315.37162.936895@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:48:35 -0500 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: MySQLd not using both CPUs In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "DS" == David Schwartz writes: >> And from your experience, can the LinuxThreads take place of the >> pthreads library in all aspects? DS> Yes. My question is do you still need to link libc_r to get thread-safe versions of all the other functions or are they all thread-safe in standard libc already? The pthread man page says this: The current FreeBSD POSIX thread implementation is built in the library libc_r which contains both thread-safe libc functions and the thread functions. This library replaces libc for threaded applications. This implies to me that standard libc is not thread safe, which could be a problem in this case. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 8:14: 5 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 08:14:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-relay.power.net.uk (mail-relay.power.net.uk [195.60.31.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291A837B402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from power.net.uk (alasdair.power.net.uk [195.60.1.22]) by mail-relay.power.net.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA25169 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:13:46 GMT Message-ID: <3A34FDA2.21890F82@power.net.uk> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:15:30 +0000 From: Alasdair Ramsay X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 8:14: 6 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 08:14:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B843337B404 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [208.184.13.195]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A00C9A5 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:14:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [208.184.13.196]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B1F2E443 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:14:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBBGE1k53911; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:14:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14900.64841.223431.518230@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:14:01 -0500 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MFS sizes In-Reply-To: <3A33E5C3.2897B417@symmetric.net> References: <3A33E5C3.2897B417@symmetric.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "KK" == Ken \\" Escape Meta Alt Control "Shift " " Kanno writes: KK> I am not able to create MFS ramdisks larger than about 500MB. This KK> seems to be because I nor mkfs are able to malloc more than 520185 KK> k of RAM. I've tried 768 and 1024MB of RAM in my machine as well KK> as swap sized of 256 and 1024MB. KK> is there a reason for this limit or a workaround? The keyword here is "limit". Type it on your shell command line and see what it says. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 8:32:39 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 08:32:37 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bor.ellacoya.com (216-064-109-139.inaddr.vitts.com [216.64.109.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C4A37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from bor.ellacoya.com (bucca.ellacoya.com [192.168.254.43]) by bor.ellacoya.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id YQW7SQ68; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:26:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:31:41 -0500 From: Michael Remski To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: shutdown -r and reboot Message-ID: <20001211113141.A880@bucca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.0.0 Content-Length: 1249 Lines: 33 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wondering if anyone else is seeing this: Fresh install from 4.2 release ISO image everything installs ok, custom kernel: Basically GENERIC with ide stripped out (all SCSI system) boots and runs fine, usually in X linux emulation loaded at boot time type in either "shutdown -r now" or "reboot" and we get the normal messages upto and including the "Uptime:", then the machine hangs. If you boot -s, then both commands work, I put a couple of printfs in kern_shutdown.c and kern_module.c if linux is loaded at boottime, it seems to hang. if linux is NOT loaded at boottime, it seems ok (actually reboots) if linux is loaded at boottime, but manually unloaded (kldunload -n linux.ko), it hangs. hard reset button, the machine reboots fine, no fsck or anything indicating a problem shutting down. if the linux module is loaded at boottime, it never seems to get back to anything in kern_shutdown.c after the "EVOKE_HANDLER(shutdown_post_sync...)" ASUS P5-B, amd k63, adaptec 2930 and buslogic 948, no IDE devices at all, pci SCSI cards and video, isa SMC elite 16 ethernet (ed driver). Suggestions or clues on where to look next are welcome. m -- "To keep in silence our designs, my friends would think I was a nut" Peter Gabriel, Solsbury Hill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 8:45:41 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 08:45:39 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shark.harmonic.co.il (jupiter.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA0A37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (roman@localhost) by shark.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA30578; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:45:19 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:45:19 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: Lauri Laupmaa Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail, rbl & orbs In-Reply-To: <3A2F5FA2.27452.2D8C83@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Lauri Laupmaa wrote: > On 6 Dec 2000, at 16:58, Jason Neumann wrote: > > > You asked for it and you're getting it! Please follow these instructions > > carefully. I am assuming you are running 4.2-STABLE. If you are running > > an earlier version of FreeBSD the cf file may be in /etc rather than > > /etc/mail. > > Many thanks to You and other helpful people! > RBL is working now... just wondering if ORBS is a subset of RBL ? No it's not. It's different, proactive scanning system, some people like it (I do), some people (those who're listed) hate it. It works fine for us for about 80% of mails, but 20% of mails are legitimate. I don't know how to do it with sendmail, but using exim you can define to put X-RBL warning instead of reject, so I use procmail later and check rbl folder sometimes. If you'd like to discuss it any further, lets move it to -questions. --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 8:47:23 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 08:47:21 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED7637B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [208.184.13.195]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACC5C9A5 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:47:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [208.184.13.196]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495CA2E451 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:47:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBBGlKW75683; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:47:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14901.1304.92728.869342@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:47:20 -0500 To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: /dev In-Reply-To: <3A349D42.2397C841@attglobal.net> References: <3A349D42.2397C841@attglobal.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "y" == youlgok writes: y> Hi, All: y> After completely installing 4.2-stable-20001208, I re-built a custom y> kernel in order to use parallel port zip drive; however, it just hang y> when I try to use /dev as instructed in y> http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/hardware.html#ZIP-SUPPORT and linked page. It works just fine here. Please describe in detail what you did step by step so we can see what went wrong. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 8:59:24 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 08:59:22 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F8437B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:59:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [208.184.13.195]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F69C9A5 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:59:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [208.184.13.196]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B522E443 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:59:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBBGxLQ80871; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:59:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14901.2025.523740.943160@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:59:21 -0500 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with video-CDs In-Reply-To: <200012110158.MAA08709@lightning.itga.com.au> References: <200012110158.MAA08709@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "GB" == Gregory Bond writes: GB> Attempting to DD them returns the following error on the console GB> in 4-Stable GB> acd0: READ_BIG - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=64 ascq=00 error=04 GB> and dd gets EIO. On 3.5 dd gets EIO but no console message. GB> Is this a known problem? Worthy of a PR? If it is known (and I think it is) you should find some mention of it in the mailing list archives. I'm pretty sure there was a discussion of this from earlier this year on this list. Check the archives. Someone even posted a hack to make it work. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 9:10:26 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 09:10:23 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9025637B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [208.184.13.195]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC868C9A5; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:10:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [208.184.13.196]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502A72E443; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:10:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBBHAK289141; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:10:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14901.2684.134589.244906@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:10:20 -0500 To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: Lauri Laupmaa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail, rbl & orbs In-Reply-To: References: <3A2F5FA2.27452.2D8C83@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "RS" == Roman Shterenzon writes: RS> On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Lauri Laupmaa wrote: >> RBL is working now... just wondering if ORBS is a subset of RBL ? RS> No it's not. It's different, proactive scanning system, some people like RS> it (I do), some people (those who're listed) hate it. RS> It works fine for us for about 80% of mails, but 20% of mails are RS> legitimate. Totally off topic here, but ORBS is just plain useless if you get any quantity of mail. I used to use it, but not any longer. There are way too many false positives for "ligitimate" email. For example, my IP office addresses are in ORBS, but I don't nor have I ever run an open relay. The addresses are in there because my building supplies IP addresses to me from their ISP, who gets connectivity through Above.net, and ORBS is having a pissing match with Above.net. So I have to route all my mail through a backup server at my co-lo facility to ensure no rejections. Of course, this is better discussed at places dedicated to SPAM discussions. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 9:18:24 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 09:18:21 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sekrit.office.oceanwave.com (laslo.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.174.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA8D37B400; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:18:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from arr@localhost) by sekrit.office.oceanwave.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBBHIJB23802; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:18:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <14901.3163.583160.950770@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:18:19 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: To: ports@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: acroread4 X-Mailer: VM 6.63 under Emacs 20.6.1 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5B F5 08 B3 6B 11 72 BD 19 29 1B 98 D2 94 77 D8 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've had this problem ever since 4.1, I believe, and nothing I've seen on the mailing lists or in the bug database seems to address it. I'm currently running 4.2-STABLE (and cvsuped ports) as of 12/10/2000. I've wiped out /compat/linux and done a make install in /usr/ports/printing/acroread4 so that it installs the linux_base stuff from scratch. When I attempt to run acroread4 /usr/local/Acrobat4/Reader/License.pdf, acroread starts, the splash screen comes up, and the acrobat window appears for a fraction of a second and then bombs with the following: Exited with error code: 0x400e0009. If I start acroread4 without specifying a file to read, it does fine. Once I try to open an existing file, though, it exits with the above mentioned error. It doesn't appear to be a branding issue (no error about libraries not being found), and it doesn't say it's an FPE, so what's the issue here? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 9:23:10 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 09:23:07 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6643137B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:23:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 145WfG-0004xr-00; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:23:02 -0800 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:23:00 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mysql: a lot of lost connections... In-Reply-To: <976529526.3a34a876690f1@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Roman Shterenzon wrote: ... > We're hopefully not trying to hide bugs like some other *BSD folks tend to do > sometimes? > New users ask in -questions or -stable and receive and answer - oh, yeah, > sure, it's known bug. But "known" to who? It's not in the ERRATA, how one's > suppose to know it? ... Since all of these problems were already discussed on -stable, everyone on -stable should already know. Everything in -stable is now in the archive. Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 10:44:52 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 10:44:50 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (mx1.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D2037B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:44:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (sams [134.2.12.50]) by mx1.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93F44A7 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:44:44 +0100 (MET) Received: (from sperber@localhost) by informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA02231; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:44:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sperber) Sender: sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: acroread4 References: <14901.3163.583160.950770@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> From: sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) Date: 11 Dec 2000 19:44:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: 's message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:18:19 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.2 (Pan) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "arr" == arr writes: arr> I've had this problem ever since 4.1, I believe, and nothing I've seen arr> on the mailing lists or in the bug database seems to address it. arr> I'm currently running 4.2-STABLE (and cvsuped ports) as of 12/10/2000. arr> I've wiped out /compat/linux and done a make install in arr> /usr/ports/printing/acroread4 so that it installs the linux_base stuff arr> from scratch. arr> When I attempt to run acroread4 /usr/local/Acrobat4/Reader/License.pdf, arr> acroread starts, the splash screen comes up, and the acrobat window arr> appears for a fraction of a second and then bombs with the following: arr> Exited with error code: 0x400e0009. I see just this with *certain* pdf files across *all* architectures, including AIX, Solaris, and Windows. What I see is definitely a bug in Acrobat. -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 11:11:42 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 11:11:38 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF12C37B404 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:11:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 145YMK-0004dd-00; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:11:36 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eBBJBNW01677; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:11:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:11:23 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread4 Message-ID: <20001211201122.A1655@freebie.demon.nl> References: <14901.3163.583160.950770@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 07:44:43PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 07:44:43PM +0100, Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor] wrote: > >>>>> "arr" == arr writes: > > arr> I've had this problem ever since 4.1, I believe, and nothing I've seen > arr> on the mailing lists or in the bug database seems to address it. > > arr> I'm currently running 4.2-STABLE (and cvsuped ports) as of 12/10/2000. > arr> I've wiped out /compat/linux and done a make install in > arr> /usr/ports/printing/acroread4 so that it installs the linux_base stuff > arr> from scratch. > > arr> When I attempt to run acroread4 /usr/local/Acrobat4/Reader/License.pdf, > arr> acroread starts, the splash screen comes up, and the acrobat window > arr> appears for a fraction of a second and then bombs with the following: > > arr> Exited with error code: 0x400e0009. > > I see just this with *certain* pdf files across *all* architectures, > including AIX, Solaris, and Windows. What I see is definitely a bug > in Acrobat. Acrobat4 is a looser.. Have you seen how much memory it consumes, given the right .PDF file and a bit of PgUp/PgDown? -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 11:13: 3 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 11:12:59 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997D137B400; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:12:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15637; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:08:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012111908.LAA15637@implode.root.com> To: "O. Hartmann" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel option NBUF, what does ist means? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:49:03 +0100." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:08:57 -0800 Sender: dg@implode.root.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Dear Sirs. >For non kernel developer the additional options in LINT for kernel >configuration are little secrets and it is said, that some of them >could 'tweak' a standard kernel to be more powerful when getting >tweaked and the system it runs on is to be a server (I read some >articles about Linux vs. FreeBSD in a German magazine and it has been >mentioned that tweaking makes FreeBSD faster for serving purposes). > >One of the secret parameters seems to be NBUFS. it is set to 512 in >LINT, I set it to 4096 this time to see whats going on. Can anyone >offer me a hint on this parameter? Yes, you should not define it in your kernel config so that the system will properly auto-tune it to the best value based on your physical memory size. In fact most of the parameters found in LINT are that way - they are there to document that they exist, not to ecourage people to specify them. -DG David Greenman Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org President, TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com Pave the road of life with opportunities. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 11:14:50 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 11:14:47 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0FF37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:14:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (Ipittythefoolthattrustsident@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA58812; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:14:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBBJEZj98180; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:14:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:14:35 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mark Powell Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Different gcc optimisations cause IP packet CRC problems Message-ID: <20001211111434.A98131@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <20001211103638.A21163@peitho.fxp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 03:45:02PM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: obrien@NUXI.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 03:45:02PM +0000, Mark Powell wrote: > > No, but you may want to review the mailing list archives since GCC > > optimization problems have been rehash many times (see also the notes > > in /etc/defaults/make.conf WRT optimization). > > I hadn't seen those comments. I didn't think gcc could be *that* broken. Compiling a kernel is *very* demanding on a C compiler. Linux still uses 2.7.2.3 for their kernel compiler (someone correct me if this is not still the case). Optimization is a hard science. I don't think anybody has ever guarenteed 100% correct code with -O2. But if you can provide a test case showing the optimizer bug, the GCC developers will fix it. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 11:17:54 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 11:17:51 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EBF37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:17:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (Ipittythefoolthattrustsident@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA58823; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:17:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBBJHms98222; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:17:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:17:47 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: Tom , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mysql: a lot of lost connections... Message-ID: <20001211111747.B98131@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <976529526.3a34a876690f1@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <976529526.3a34a876690f1@webmail.harmonic.co.il>; from roman@harmonic.co.il on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 12:12:06PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: obrien@NUXI.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 12:12:06PM +0200, Roman Shterenzon wrote: > > As has been mentioned on this list, you can use 4.2-STABLE, but you > > must change the compiler. > > > > 4.2-RELEASE has a known mutex bug that was discussed on this list and > > fixed about two days after the release. Since this was a well-known > > bug, > > why on earth did you even bother with 4.2-RELEASE? > > Today I've checked the ERRATA _again_, still no signs of this bug. > We're hopefully not trying to hide bugs like some other *BSD folks tend > to do sometimes? You seem to have missed my emails saying that Jason Evans and I cannot reproduce this (the need for changing the compiler), and my call asking those that can to help. I see not a single person has been willing to spend the time doing this. It is not in the Errata because we don't know what to put in there since there hasn't been an in-depth analysis of the problem. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 11:20:16 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 11:20:14 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C822137B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (Ipittythefoolthattrustsident@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA58846; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:20:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBBJKCI98250; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:20:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:20:11 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: youlgok@attglobal.net Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: /dev Message-ID: <20001211112011.C98131@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <3A349D42.2397C841@attglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A349D42.2397C841@attglobal.net>; from youlgok@attglobal.net on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 04:24:20AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: obrien@NUXI.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 04:24:20AM -0500, youlgok@attglobal.net wrote: > PS. How come 4.2-stable does not have the latest X Window version? > While I was trying install a package, it complained the X is too old. Exact error message? How did you install X? Where did you get the package (vs. port) come from? What is the name of the package. > I have no idea what went wrong with. Any help would be grateful. Details would be greatful. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 11:27: 7 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 11:27:05 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moya.hans.org (e165253.upc-e.chello.nl [213.93.165.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7316837B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:27:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by moya.hans.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 08B483642A; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:26:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:26:50 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread4 Message-ID: <20001211202650.A77310@moya.hans.org> References: <14901.3163.583160.950770@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> <20001211201122.A1655@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001211201122.A1655@freebie.demon.nl>; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 08:11:23PM +0100 From: H.Lambermont@chello.nl (H) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wilko Bulte wrote: > Acrobat4 is a looser.. Have you seen how much memory it consumes, > given the right .PDF file and a bit of PgUp/PgDown? Do you know a better alternative ? My acroread4 turns purple all the time :-( which makes the text unreadable. Hans -- http://hans.mypage.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 11:30:37 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 11:30:33 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE0337B402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:30:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA25506; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:30:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:30:24 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: H Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: acroread4 In-Reply-To: <20001211202650.A77310@moya.hans.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, H wrote: > > Acrobat4 is a looser.. Have you seen how much memory it consumes, > > given the right .PDF file and a bit of PgUp/PgDown? > > Do you know a better alternative ? My acroread4 turns purple all the > time :-( which makes the text unreadable. May I suggest you take a look at gv in /usr/ports/print/gv? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestřl | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.5-S & Pine 4.21 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 11:50:33 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 11:50:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cube.gelatinous.com (unknown [207.82.194.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2ACC037B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 74139 invoked by uid 1005); 11 Dec 2000 19:50:28 -0000 Date: 11 Dec 2000 19:50:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20001211195028.74138.qmail@cube.gelatinous.com> From: danh@gelatinous.com To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: softupdates and "/" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates on my / partition? thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 11:52:15 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 11:52:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hamberg.it.uu.se (hamberg.it.uu.se [130.238.9.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA05C37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ertr1013@localhost) by hamberg.it.uu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA15975 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:52:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:52:07 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: Different gcc optimisations cause IP packet CRC problems Message-ID: <20001211205207.A15479@student.uu.se> References: <20001211103638.A21163@peitho.fxp.org> <20001211111434.A98131@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001211111434.A98131@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@freebsd.org on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 11:14:35AM -0800 Sender: ertr1013@csd.uu.se Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 11:14:35AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 03:45:02PM +0000, Mark Powell wrote: > > > No, but you may want to review the mailing list archives since GCC > > > optimization problems have been rehash many times (see also the notes > > > in /etc/defaults/make.conf WRT optimization). > > > > I hadn't seen those comments. I didn't think gcc could be *that* broken. > > Compiling a kernel is *very* demanding on a C compiler. Linux still uses > 2.7.2.3 for their kernel compiler (someone correct me if this is not > still the case). Optimization is a hard science. I don't think anybody AFAIK Linux doesn't need 2.7.2.3 anymore. The reason they needed it for kernel compiling for quite some time was , IIRC, that they had some bad code which happened to work with 2.7.2.3 but didn't work with a later, more strict, version of gcc. > has ever guarenteed 100% correct code with -O2. But if you > can provide a test case showing the optimizer bug, the GCC developers > will fix it. > -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 11:53:31 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 11:53:29 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Socrates.i-pi.com (Socrates.i-pi.com [198.49.217.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7F537B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ingham@localhost) by Socrates.i-pi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBBJqAb69368 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:52:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ingham) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:52:10 -0700 From: Kenneth Ingham To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: panic: vm_pageout_flush page 0xc0a0a8fc index 0/1: partially dirty page Message-ID: <20001211125210.A69244@Socrates.i-pi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: ingham@Socrates.i-pi.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am running a 4.2-STABLE with a kernel form a cvsup late last night. When I try to do work in a coda filesystem, it dies with the message in the subject line. uname -a: FreeBSD Clarke.i-pi.com 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #1: Mon Dec 11 10:14:42 MST 2000 ingham@Clarke.i-pi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/CLARKE i386 I have crash dumps enabled, and I can make the kernel and vmcore files available. This problem was introduced sometime between Nov 13, 2000 (a good kernel built here) and Dec 8, 2000 (first bad kernel). Kenneth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 11:55:20 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 11:55:17 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cube.gelatinous.com (unknown [207.82.194.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D66737B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:55:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 74378 invoked by uid 1005); 11 Dec 2000 19:52:28 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:52:28 -0800 From: Dan Holliman To: Cliff Sarginson Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting 4.2 Message-ID: <20001211115228.A74082@gelatinous.com> References: <00121008151802.01488@buffy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00121008151802.01488@buffy>; from cliff@raggedclown.net on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:15:18AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:15:18AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > Hello, > I have installed 4.2 from CD. > Try as I might I could not install it as bootable. > I tried various permutations of installation. > I dedicated the whole hard disk of the PC I was trying > it on to BSD. > But I got zip when I booted. > So I installed a minimal linux installation, > then BSD and using Lilo, lo and behold it booted ! I am no help but I had the exact same problem. I spent hours agonizing over boot blocks and experimenting with grub to try to get freebsd 4.2 to boot from the disk drive of a PC (I blamed my weird HP Vectra BIOS at the time), then I installed Linux just so I could use LILO, and I was able to boot into freebsd finally. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 11:55:24 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 11:55:22 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f260.hotmail.com [216.32.180.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CBA37B699 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:55:22 -0800 Received: from 64.240.243.103 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:55:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.240.243.103] From: "Kenneth Mays" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: About GCC 2.95.2 -O2 bug Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:55:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2000 19:55:22.0011 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B975EB0:01C063AC] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey, I remember seeing something in the GCC snapshots that the optimization bug was fixed. You should test with GCC 2.95.2 with a clean environment and document exactly your setup and procedures for testing the bug. There are the daily snapshots like GCC 2.97 which you can test to see if they fix your problem but those are NOT OFFICIAL and buggy in their own right. Wait till GCC 3.0 for double checking or contact obrien@freebsd.org who I think is the tester for GCC. Hope that helps. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 12:16:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 12:16:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C59537B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id eBBKGZ311214; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:16:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:16:35 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: danh@gelatinous.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" Message-ID: <20001211121635.F16205@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20001211195028.74138.qmail@cube.gelatinous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001211195028.74138.qmail@cube.gelatinous.com>; from danh@gelatinous.com on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 07:50:28PM -0000 Sender: bright@fw.wintelcom.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * danh@gelatinous.com [001211 11:50] wrote: > Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates > on my / partition? Yes and no. Yes because the delayed deletion "feature" of softupdates may cause you to run out of space on / when doing installworld unless / is pretty large. I use ~120 MB to get around this, but I may not need that much. No because if your /tmp is in / then tempfile creation and deletion will be signifigantly faster which can really speed up applications especially stupid ones that use lockfiles in /tmp. I recommend using softupdates on / as long as you have enough space, 120-150 megs, with disk speeds these days fsck'ing ~120MB doesn't take that long. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 12:23:38 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 12:23:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A959C37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:23:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eBBKNSk94297; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:23:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:23:28 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200012112023.eBBKNSk94297@earth.backplane.com> To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: danh@gelatinous.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" References: <20001211195028.74138.qmail@cube.gelatinous.com> <20001211121635.F16205@fw.wintelcom.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Yes and no. : :Yes because the delayed deletion "feature" of softupdates may cause :you to run out of space on / when doing installworld unless / is :pretty large. I use ~120 MB to get around this, but I may not need :that much. : :No because if your /tmp is in / then tempfile creation and deletion :will be signifigantly faster which can really speed up applications :especially stupid ones that use lockfiles in /tmp. : :I recommend using softupdates on / as long as you have enough space, :120-150 megs, with disk speeds these days fsck'ing ~120MB doesn't :take that long. : :-- :-Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] I'll second that recommendation. I always configure 128MB root paritions precisely so things like 'make installworld' don't run a softupdates-enabled root out of space. And, besides, this way I can keep a bunch of kernels sitting in / rather then just one or two. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 12:25:12 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 12:25:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C98937B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:25:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1098) id 7BD9E2B290; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:25:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:25:05 -0600 From: Bill Fumerola To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail, rbl & orbs Message-ID: <20001211142505.Q86825@elvis.mu.org> References: <3A2F5FA2.27452.2D8C83@localhost> <14901.2684.134589.244906@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <14901.2684.134589.244906@onceler.kciLink.com>; from khera@kciLink.com on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 12:10:20PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-FEARSOME-20001103 i386 Sender: billf@elvis.mu.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 12:10:20PM -0500, Vivek Khera wrote: > For example, my IP office addresses are in ORBS, but I don't nor have > I ever run an open relay. The addresses are in there because my > building supplies IP addresses to me from their ISP, who gets > connectivity through Above.net, and ORBS is having a pissing match > with Above.net. So I have to route all my mail through a backup > server at my co-lo facility to ensure no rejections. This is one of many reasons that ORBS is a piece of shit[1]. See the nanog mail archives[2] for large discussions regarding MAPS v. ORBS. -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - fumerola@yahoo-inc.com / billf@FreeBSD.org 1. Before ORBS decides to have another tantrum and block Yahoo because of the above statement, I'm not speaking for Yahoo, just for myself. 2. http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 12:27: 3 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 12:27:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B48037B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eBBKQif94365; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:26:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:26:44 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200012112026.eBBKQif94365@earth.backplane.com> To: Kenneth Ingham Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic: vm_pageout_flush page 0xc0a0a8fc index 0/1: partially dirty page References: <20001211125210.A69244@Socrates.i-pi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :I am running a 4.2-STABLE with a kernel form a cvsup late last night. :When I try to do work in a coda filesystem, it dies with the message in :the subject line. I committed the fix to current yesterday and, it being sufficiently trivial and you being the second person to complain, I'll MFC it to -stable right now. You should be able to cvsup it in an hour or two. Basically, the KASSERT causing the panic was put in a little too early. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 12:34: 8 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 12:34:06 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shark.harmonic.co.il (jupiter.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F6937B400; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (roman@localhost) by shark.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03055; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:29:01 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:29:01 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: "David O'Brien" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mysql: a lot of lost connections... In-Reply-To: <20001211111747.B98131@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 12:12:06PM +0200, Roman Shterenzon wrote: > > > As has been mentioned on this list, you can use 4.2-STABLE, but you > > > must change the compiler. > > > > > > 4.2-RELEASE has a known mutex bug that was discussed on this list and > > > fixed about two days after the release. Since this was a well-known > > > bug, > > > why on earth did you even bother with 4.2-RELEASE? > > > > Today I've checked the ERRATA _again_, still no signs of this bug. > > We're hopefully not trying to hide bugs like some other *BSD folks tend > > to do sometimes? > > You seem to have missed my emails saying that Jason Evans and I cannot > reproduce this (the need for changing the compiler), and my call asking > those that can to help. I see not a single person has been willing to > spend the time doing this. > > It is not in the Errata because we don't know what to put in there since > there hasn't been an in-depth analysis of the problem. David, I was talking about the libc_r (i.e. "mutex bug") bug and not the one discussed in this thread - you were fooled by the subject, sorry for not changing it. I think that the pthread bug deserves its place in the ERRATA.TXT --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 12:44:31 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 12:44:29 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thummy.com (cx467325-a.irvn1.occa.home.com [24.21.105.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FD037B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 46999 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2000 20:40:35 -0000 Received: from softdnserror (HELO rruiz) (208.50.67.66) by cx467325-a.irvn1.occa.home.com with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 11 Dec 2000 20:40:35 -0000 Message-ID: <01a801c063b3$20565b00$1f09a8c0@electekgroup.com> From: "Rudy Ruiz" To: Subject: XFree 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:44:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently built X 4.0.1 and quite a few applications. I have installed this package on another machine which work great. When I attempt to pkg_add my other applications the dependency check fails because the apps are looking for X 3.3.6. Is there a work around of some sort or am I just doing something wrong? Thanks -- rudy-at-thummy-dot-com www.thummy.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 12:47:43 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 12:47:39 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-nl1.origin-it.com (gw-nl1.origin-it.com [193.79.128.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7E937B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:47:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.de.origin-it.com (localhost.origin-it.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl1.origin-it.com with ESMTP id VAA07740; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:47:31 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-de1.origin-it.com(172.16.188.53) by gw-nl1.origin-it.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma007738; Mon, 11 Dec 00 21:47:31 +0100 Received: from mailhub.de.origin-it.com (mailhub.de.origin-it.com [172.16.189.20]) by mail.de.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id VAA18426; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:47:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (galaxy.de.cp.philips.com [130.143.166.29]) by mailhub.de.origin-it.com (8.11.1/8.11.1/hmo23oct00) with ESMTP id eBBKlSH08050; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:47:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/hmo14aug98) id VAA20173; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:47:28 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200012112047.VAA20173@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Subject: Re: shutdown -r and reboot In-Reply-To: <20001211113141.A880@bucca> from Michael Remski at "Dec 11, 2000 11:31:41 am" To: mremski@ellacoya.com (Michael Remski) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:47:27 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org From: Helge Oldach X-Address: Atos Origin, Billstrasse 80, D-20539 Hamburg, Germany X-Phone: +49 40 7886 464, Fax: +49 40 7886 235, Mobile: +49 172 4515513 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Remski: >Wondering if anyone else is seeing this: >Fresh install from 4.2 release ISO image >everything installs ok, >custom kernel: Basically GENERIC with ide stripped out (all SCSI system) >boots and runs fine, usually in X >linux emulation loaded at boot time >type in either "shutdown -r now" or "reboot" >and we get the normal messages upto and including the "Uptime:", >then the machine hangs. >If you boot -s, then both commands work, This has been standard behaviour for me on the selection of HP Vectras I have used (currently an XA - P166) since The Early Days (aka FreeBSD 2.0.5). Well, I have seen a little improvement last weekend that may give a hint: I got annoyed by the problems with the pcn driver (which doesn't work very well with the XA's built-in PCI NIC - only the "100" port works on a 10 Mbps hub, and only if it's *not* connected to the hub during boot-up) and decided to revert to the good old lnc driver for an experiment. Indeed the lnc driver worked fine ("using old-style compatability shims"), however the machine consistently got hung doring "reboot" or "shutdown -r". Just as you described. Yes, it even got hung after a "boot -s" and manually ifconfig'ing the NIC. It's definitely related to just the lnc driver; this was the only kernel change I made. I reverted to the pcn driver and things are fine again. The machine reboots as expected, however I still need manual intervention to disconnect it from the hub during device probe. BTW, you need to set the "long PCI device reset" option in the BIOS to force the NIC out of the 32-bit mode used by the pcn driver. Otherwise you'll get another hang-up as the device doesn't revert to 16-bit mode automatically. Unfortunately the BIOS wants the device in 16-bit mode or it gets a hickup. >I put a couple of printfs in kern_shutdown.c and kern_module.c >if linux is loaded at boottime, it seems to hang. >if linux is NOT loaded at boottime, it seems ok (actually reboots) >if linux is loaded at boottime, but manually unloaded (kldunload -n >linux.ko), >it hangs. >hard reset button, the machine reboots fine, no fsck or anything indicating No linux module at all in my case. I think starting X11 once was sufficient to disallow reboot. Helge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 12:54: 1 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 12:53:59 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shark.harmonic.co.il (jupiter.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F68837B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:53:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (roman@localhost) by shark.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03624; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:48:49 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:48:49 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: Rudy Ruiz Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree 4.0.1 In-Reply-To: <01a801c063b3$20565b00$1f09a8c0@electekgroup.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Rudy Ruiz wrote: > I recently built X 4.0.1 and quite a few applications. I have installed this > package on another machine which work great. When I attempt to pkg_add my > other applications the dependency check fails because the apps are looking > for X 3.3.6. Is there a work around of some sort or am I just doing > something wrong? You can try adding XFREE86_VERSION=4 to /etc/make.conf which may help you a bit. --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 12:59:29 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 12:59:27 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC53A37B402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:59:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id PAA12661; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:59:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:59:00 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Eischen To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mysql: a lot of lost connections... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Roman Shterenzon wrote: > David, I was talking about the libc_r (i.e. "mutex bug") bug and not the > one discussed in this thread - you were fooled by the subject, sorry for > not changing it. > I think that the pthread bug deserves its place in the ERRATA.TXT One note about the bug: If you are using POSIX mutexes (which don't provide hideous recursive mutexes as SUSv2 does), then you should only be bit by this bug under two circumstances: 1) the program is flawed and attempts to recursively lock a non-recursive mutex without expecting this possibility; 2) the program attempts to recursively lock a non-recursive mutex and expects a proper error message to be returned -- Dan Eischen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 13: 7: 0 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 13:06:58 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sekrit.office.oceanwave.com (laslo.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.174.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A899037B402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from arr@localhost) by sekrit.office.oceanwave.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBBL6u424057; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:06:56 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14901.16879.363150.562332@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:06:55 -0500 (EST) From: To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: acroread4 X-Mailer: VM 6.63 under Emacs 20.6.1 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5B F5 08 B3 6B 11 72 BD 19 29 1B 98 D2 94 77 D8 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG arr> Exited with error code: 0x400e0009. sperber> I see just this with *certain* pdf files across *all* architectures, sperber> including AIX, Solaris, and Windows. What I see is definitely a bug sperber> in Acrobat. I can read the same pdfs just fine on my solaris 7 box with acroread 4.0. It MAY be a version thing, but it's not generically "acrobat reader" across all verions and platforms. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 13:16:56 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 13:16:54 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genius.tao.org.uk (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D4937B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by genius.tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 78EA99B02; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:16:57 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:16:57 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with video-CDs Message-ID: <20001211211657.C7287@bsdi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Vivek Khera , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200012110158.MAA08709@lightning.itga.com.au> <14901.2025.523740.943160@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <14901.2025.523740.943160@onceler.kciLink.com>; from khera@kciLink.com on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 11:59:21AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 11:59:21AM -0500, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "GB" == Gregory Bond writes: > > GB> Attempting to DD them returns the following error on the console > GB> in 4-Stable > GB> acd0: READ_BIG - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=64 ascq=00 error=04 > > GB> and dd gets EIO. On 3.5 dd gets EIO but no console message. > > GB> Is this a known problem? Worthy of a PR? > > If it is known (and I think it is) you should find some mention of it > in the mailing list archives. I'm pretty sure there was a discussion > of this from earlier this year on this list. Check the archives. > Someone even posted a hack to make it work. If it's only a "hack" maybe someone can fix it up for committing. Joe -- Josef Karthauser [joe@FreeBSD.org, joe@tao.org.uk] ......... FreeBSD: The power to change the world ........ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 13:20:51 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 13:20:48 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F5A37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 145aNK-00090c-00; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:20:46 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eBBLKU502442; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:20:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:20:30 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: H Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread4 Message-ID: <20001211222030.A2277@freebie.demon.nl> References: <14901.3163.583160.950770@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> <20001211201122.A1655@freebie.demon.nl> <20001211202650.A77310@moya.hans.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001211202650.A77310@moya.hans.org>; from H.Lambermont@chello.nl on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 08:26:50PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 08:26:50PM +0100, H wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > Acrobat4 is a looser.. Have you seen how much memory it consumes, > > given the right .PDF file and a bit of PgUp/PgDown? > > Do you know a better alternative ? My acroread4 turns purple all the > time :-( which makes the text unreadable. Eh, oh. Yes, it does that too ;-) I tend to use xpdf -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 13:25:10 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 13:25:07 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nordier.com (c3-dbn-108.dial-up.net [196.33.200.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED2937B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:25:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by nordier.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBBLPm600592; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:25:48 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from rnordier) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <200012112125.eBBLPm600592@nordier.com> Subject: Re: Booting 4.2 To: danh@gelatinous.com (Dan Holliman), cliff@raggedclown.net (Cliff Sarginson) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:25:47 +0200 (SAST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20001211115228.A74082@gelatinous.com> from "Dan Holliman" at Dec 11, 2000 11:52:28 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dan Holliman wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:15:18AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > > I have installed 4.2 from CD. > > Try as I might I could not install it as bootable. > > I tried various permutations of installation. > > I dedicated the whole hard disk of the PC I was trying > > it on to BSD. > > But I got zip when I booted. > > So I installed a minimal linux installation, > > then BSD and using Lilo, lo and behold it booted ! > > I am no help but I had the exact same problem. > I spent hours agonizing over boot blocks and experimenting > with grub to try to get freebsd 4.2 to boot from the disk > drive of a PC (I blamed my weird HP Vectra BIOS at the time), > then I installed Linux just so I could use LILO, and > I was able to boot into freebsd finally. I'd be happy to work with anyone who is having problems with the i386 bootstraps. You'll both have to go into more detail, though, before this kind of report is actually useful. (All I can gather, for now, is that nothing you tried worked, except LILO....) -- Robert Nordier rnordier@nordier.com rnordier@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 13:25:16 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 13:25:12 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f262.hotmail.com [216.32.180.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D65B37B402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:25:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:25:11 -0800 Received: from 64.240.243.103 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:25:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.240.243.103] From: "Kenneth Mays" To: arr@oceanwave.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread4 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:25:10 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2000 21:25:11.0106 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7BE0220:01C063B8] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As long as you have v4.05c (windows) or v4.05 (UNIX-clones) you should be alright in most areas. I use this toold and GView v3.4x and they are fine for most viewing issues. -Ken >From: >To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >Subject: acroread4 >Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:06:55 -0500 (EST) > >arr> Exited with error code: 0x400e0009. > >sperber> I see just this with *certain* pdf files across *all* >architectures, >sperber> including AIX, Solaris, and Windows. What I see is definitely a >bug >sperber> in Acrobat. > >I can read the same pdfs just fine on my solaris 7 box with acroread 4.0. >It >MAY be a version thing, but it's not generically "acrobat reader" across >all >verions and platforms. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 13:51:50 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 13:51:44 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (unknown [216.152.64.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B9837B402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from whenever ([216.152.68.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:50:31 -0800 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Vivek Khera" , Subject: RE: MySQLd not using both CPUs Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:51:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <14900.63315.37162.936895@onceler.kciLink.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > My question is do you still need to link libc_r to get thread-safe > versions of all the other functions or are they all thread-safe in > standard libc already? The pthread man page says this: You *can't* use libc_r with the LinuxThreads port. It provides a different type of threading than the LinuxThreads port does. However, LinuxThreads does build a gcc_r library to provide reentrant versions of critical internal functions and the llthreads library contains reentrant versions of crtical library functions. > The current FreeBSD POSIX thread implementation is built in > the library > libc_r which contains both thread-safe libc functions and the thread > functions. This library replaces libc for threaded applications. > > This implies to me that standard libc is not thread safe, which could > be a problem in this case. The LinuxThreads port makes sure that vital functions (like malloc) are thread-safe. I have yet encountered only two cases where either the function wasn't replaced or there wasn't a corresponding thread-safe function. Those were 'ctime' and 'asctime' (the port attempts to replace them with thread-safe versions, but I couldn't get the replacements to work properly). Fortunately, no multithreaded program I've had to deal with has used either of them, and if they did, I could work around it by wrapping the functions in a mutex until the results were copied to thread-local storage. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 13:52:57 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 13:52:50 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prserv.net (out1.prserv.net [32.97.166.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80D837B402; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from attglobal.net ([129.37.172.24]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <2000121121524620102ri453e>; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:52:46 +0000 Message-ID: <3A354CE0.650837D1@attglobal.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:53:36 -0500 From: youlgok@attglobal.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: /dev References: <3A349D42.2397C841@attglobal.net> <20001211112011.C98131@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks David O'Brien: X was installed while the FBSD-4.2-stable-20001208 was installing. It was XFree86-3.3.6. And a few packages, a couple of Japanese and Korean languages enabled xterms and X fonts, complain that the required X is not 3.3.6_5 and stopped pkg_add. Anyway, something went to wrong last night and I re-install whole system along with XFree86-4.0.1_10 from package (/stand/sysinstall). I didn't log that particular error message. It was simple. It's much like what I stated above. Now I need to configure the new X Window and make it run. :-| Thanks -Paul David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 04:24:20AM -0500, youlgok@attglobal.net wrote: > > PS. How come 4.2-stable does not have the latest X Window version? > > While I was trying install a package, it complained the X is too old. > > Exact error message? How did you install X? Where did you get the > package (vs. port) come from? What is the name of the package. > > > I have no idea what went wrong with. Any help would be grateful. > > Details would be greatful. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 04:24:20AM -0500, youlgok@attglobal.net wrote: > > PS. How come 4.2-stable does not have the latest X Window version? > > While I was trying install a package, it complained the X is too old. > > Exact error message? How did you install X? Where did you get the > package (vs. port) come from? What is the name of the package. > > > I have no idea what went wrong with. Any help would be grateful. > > Details would be greatful. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 13:52:58 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 13:52:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prserv.net (out1.prserv.net [32.97.166.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80D837B402; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from attglobal.net ([129.37.172.24]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <2000121121524620102ri453e>; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:52:46 +0000 Message-ID: <3A354CE0.650837D1@attglobal.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:53:36 -0500 From: youlgok@attglobal.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: /dev References: <3A349D42.2397C841@attglobal.net> <20001211112011.C98131@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks David O'Brien: X was installed while the FBSD-4.2-stable-20001208 was installing. It was XFree86-3.3.6. And a few packages, a couple of Japanese and Korean languages enabled xterms and X fonts, complain that the required X is not 3.3.6_5 and stopped pkg_add. Anyway, something went to wrong last night and I re-install whole system along with XFree86-4.0.1_10 from package (/stand/sysinstall). I didn't log that particular error message. It was simple. It's much like what I stated above. Now I need to configure the new X Window and make it run. :-| Thanks -Paul David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 04:24:20AM -0500, youlgok@attglobal.net wrote: > > PS. How come 4.2-stable does not have the latest X Window version? > > While I was trying install a package, it complained the X is too old. > > Exact error message? How did you install X? Where did you get the > package (vs. port) come from? What is the name of the package. > > > I have no idea what went wrong with. Any help would be grateful. > > Details would be greatful. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 04:24:20AM -0500, youlgok@attglobal.net wrote: > > PS. How come 4.2-stable does not have the latest X Window version? > > While I was trying install a package, it complained the X is too old. > > Exact error message? How did you install X? Where did you get the > package (vs. port) come from? What is the name of the package. > > > I have no idea what went wrong with. Any help would be grateful. > > Details would be greatful. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 14:49:16 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 14:49:13 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D7337B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:49:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.77.116] (helo=buffy.raggedclown) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 145bks-0004pL-00; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:49:10 +0000 Received: (from cliff@localhost) by buffy.raggedclown (8.10.2/8.10.2) id eBBMAej02121; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:10:40 +0100 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:10:40 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: Dan Holliman Cc: Cliff Sarginson , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting 4.2 Message-ID: <20001211231040.A1544@buffy.local> References: <00121008151802.01488@buffy> <20001211115228.A74082@gelatinous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001211115228.A74082@gelatinous.com>; from danh@gelatinous.com on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 11:52:28AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 11:52:28AM -0800, Dan Holliman wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:15:18AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > > Hello, > > I have installed 4.2 from CD. > > Try as I might I could not install it as bootable. > > I tried various permutations of installation. > > I dedicated the whole hard disk of the PC I was trying > > it on to BSD. > > But I got zip when I booted. > > So I installed a minimal linux installation, > > then BSD and using Lilo, lo and behold it booted ! > > I am no help but I had the exact same problem. > I spent hours agonizing over boot blocks and experimenting > with grub to try to get freebsd 4.2 to boot from the disk > drive of a PC (I blamed my weird HP Vectra BIOS at the time), > then I installed Linux just so I could use LILO, and > I was able to boot into freebsd finally. > Well, yours is the only reply I have had to this problem. I posted it on "stable" since that seemed to me to be appropriate. Maybe I will repost it on questions; maybe I misunderstand what the purpose of the stable list is, fundamental installation problems like this surely belong there ?? I am not so happy that I have to install one whole OS in order to boot another one ! Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 14:58:29 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 14:58:26 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wondermutt.net (host75-157.student.udel.edu [128.175.75.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DF737B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:58:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from morgaine.udel.edu (morgaine.wondermutt.net [192.168.1.2]) by wondermutt.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBBMwh414444; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:58:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from papalia@udel.edu) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001211175524.00ae0810@mail.udel.edu> X-Sender: papalia@mail.udel.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:58:04 -0500 To: Cliff Sarginson , Dan Holliman From: John Subject: Re: Booting 4.2 Cc: Cliff Sarginson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20001211231040.A1544@buffy.local> References: <20001211115228.A74082@gelatinous.com> <00121008151802.01488@buffy> <20001211115228.A74082@gelatinous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Hello, > > > I have installed 4.2 from CD. > > > Try as I might I could not install it as bootable. > > > I tried various permutations of installation. > > > I dedicated the whole hard disk of the PC I was trying it on to BSD. > > > But I got zip when I booted. > > > So I installed a minimal linux installation, then BSD and using Lilo, > lo and behold it booted ! > > > I am no help but I had the exact same problem. > > I spent hours agonizing over boot blocks and experimenting > > with grub to try to get freebsd 4.2 to boot from the disk > > drive of a PC (I blamed my weird HP Vectra BIOS at the time), > > then I installed Linux just so I could use LILO, and > > I was able to boot into freebsd finally. > > >Well, yours is the only reply I have had to this problem. >I posted it on "stable" since that seemed to me to be >appropriate. Maybe I will repost it on questions; maybe >I misunderstand what the purpose of the stable list is, >fundamental installation problems like this surely >belong there ?? > >I am not so happy that I have to install one whole OS in >order to boot another one ! On one end of this, someone else posted earlier today that they'd be willing to help if provided more details... hopefully you saw that message. On the other end, you don't have to install Linux just to get a boot manager. Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/multi-os/ch2.html and you'll see a nice list of boot managers. Booteasy, OS-BS and OS-BSBeta can all be gotten from FreeBSD (FTP site). And the best part is they're EXTREMELY small files, too. As for why a boot manager is needed at all, I defer to the other gent who offered the help. --john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 16:52:31 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 16:52:27 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from homer.softweyr.com (mail.dobox.com [208.187.122.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DD337B402; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:52:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=softweyr.com ident=Fools trust ident!) by homer.softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 145a2w-0000D7-00; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:59:42 -0700 Sender: wes@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3A35403E.F8808F73@softweyr.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:59:42 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Chad R. Larson" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCIOCGETCONF/PCIOCREAD requires write permission? References: <200012080707.AAA12102@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20001208115004.B81619@dragon.nuxi.com> <3A333CE4.5B9FDA92@newsguy.com> <3A342838.2345F03@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Wes Peters writes: > > BSD for the masses. > > "BSD on every desk and in every home" > > DES (ducks, runs) You can run, but wherever you go, there'll be a BSD system waiting for you. At least that's MY goal. ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 18:15:11 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 18:15:09 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hurlame.pdl.cs.cmu.edu (HURLAME.PDL.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.189.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5C037B402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from magus@localhost) by hurlame.pdl.cs.cmu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBC2F5a44526; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:15:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from magus) Sender: magus@hurlame.pdl.cs.cmu.edu To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: Mark Powell Subject: Re: Different gcc optimisations cause IP packet CRC problems References: <20001211103638.A21163@peitho.fxp.org> <20001211111434.A98131@dragon.nuxi.com> From: Nat Lanza Date: 11 Dec 2000 21:15:03 -0500 In-Reply-To: "David O'Brien"'s message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:14:35 -0800" Message-ID: Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Channel Islands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "David O'Brien" writes: > Compiling a kernel is *very* demanding on a C compiler. Linux still uses > 2.7.2.3 for their kernel compiler (someone correct me if this is not > still the case). I think they're currently recommending egcs 2.91.. There's some angsting about whether or not they should try to support 2.7.2.3 anymore. --nat -- nat lanza --------------------- research programmer, parallel data lab, cmu scs magus@cs.cmu.edu -------------------------------- http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~magus/ there are no whole truths; all truths are half-truths -- alfred north whitehead To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 18:18:58 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 18:18:56 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from linux.ssc.nsu.ru (linux.ssc.nsu.ru [193.124.219.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2B2B37B402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4127 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2000 02:18:44 -0000 Received: from inet.ssc.nsu.ru (62.76.110.12) by hub.freebsd.org with SMTP; 12 Dec 2000 02:18:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (danfe@localhost) by inet.ssc.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23582; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:18:05 +0600 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:18:05 +0600 (NOVT) From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: How come accounting limits of login.conf still doesn't work?! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! There've been a nasty situation for quite a long time already with various accounting limits of login.conf... How come that all kewl features, such as sessionlimits, idletimes, etc all are documented in man login.conf(5), but never seemed to work? It's 4.2 already, and it still doesn't make any difference? What is the problem with all these things? I've been waiting long enough, hoping that it'll get fixed one day or another, but right now I'm feeling quite desperate to start doing all the hacking myself! [Well, maybe I've drunk up too much beer tonight... Oh boy, I was feeling very frustrated] Could anyone competent enough give any decent commentary with respect to this subject? Any information would be greatly appreciated. I didn't mean to be annoying. Thanks. -- With all due respect and love and devotion to FreeBSD, DAN Fe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 18:30:25 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 18:30:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pathlink.net (ns2.pathlink.com [209.155.233.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148BD37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from dvl-1 (dvl-1.pathlink.com [209.155.56.211]) by pathlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA32402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:30:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kachun@pathlink.com) Message-Id: <200012120230.SAA32402@pathlink.net> X-Sender: kachun@linda.pathlink.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:30:11 -0800 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Kachun Lee Subject: Extreme high load with 12/7 4-releng Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I upgraded 2 of our servers from 4-releng around 4.1.1-release to one that cvsup on Dec 7. Before the upgrade, the systems were running at load around 2. After the upgrade, the load went to over 40 just after few hours of usage. Here was some data from top... ----- last pid: 26893; load averages: 36.05, 40.55, 47.01 up 0+04:29:07 18:14:54 513 processes: 9 running, 503 sleeping, 1 zombie CPU states: 21.3% user, 0.7% nice, 30.0% system, 10.7% interrupt, 37.3% idle Mem: 196M Active, 204M Inact, 83M Wired, 17M Cache, 61M Buf, 1152K Free Swap: 600M Total, 17M Used, 583M Free, 2% Inuse, 232K Out ----- The one thing I noticed was the system started swaping constantly, even though the Swap Used did not go up. Also, the system still had 204M Inact. No Swap Used before the upgrade. I did some search on the mail lists and saw a long thread in hacker related to vm_paging, but I could not find any conlusion to that thread. I did not see any MFC, other than a vm issue that needed to turn on by sysctl, that looked might be related. Any insight to this problem? Best regards To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 18:57:26 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 18:57:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9A537B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:57:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eBC2vC798971; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:57:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:57:12 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200012120257.eBC2vC798971@earth.backplane.com> To: Kachun Lee Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extreme high load with 12/7 4-releng References: <200012120230.SAA32402@pathlink.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :I upgraded 2 of our servers from 4-releng around 4.1.1-release to one that :cvsup on Dec 7. Before the upgrade, the systems were running at load around :2. After the upgrade, the load went to over 40 just after few hours of :usage. Here was some data from top... 513 processes? What are you running on the machine? 'ps axl' By the feel of it I'm guessing a news machine, in which case it could simply be catching up on the feed. -Matt :----- :last pid: 26893; load averages: 36.05, 40.55, 47.01 up 0+04:29:07 :18:14:54 :513 processes: 9 running, 503 sleeping, 1 zombie :CPU states: 21.3% user, 0.7% nice, 30.0% system, 10.7% interrupt, 37.3% idle :Mem: 196M Active, 204M Inact, 83M Wired, 17M Cache, 61M Buf, 1152K Free :Swap: 600M Total, 17M Used, 583M Free, 2% Inuse, 232K Out :----- : :The one thing I noticed was the system started swaping constantly, even :though the Swap Used did not go up. Also, the system still had 204M Inact. :No Swap Used before the upgrade. : :I did some search on the mail lists and saw a long thread in hacker related :to vm_paging, but I could not find any conlusion to that thread. I did not :see any MFC, other than a vm issue that needed to turn on by sysctl, that :looked might be related. Any insight to this problem? : :Best regards To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 20:37: 6 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 20:37:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FDC37B404 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:37:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23979; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:36:54 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05653; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:36:52 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200012120436.PAA05653@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with video-CDs In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:59:21 -0500. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:36:52 +1100 Sender: gnb@itga.com.au Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > GB> acd0: READ_BIG - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=64 ascq=00 error=04 > If it is known (and I think it is) you should find some mention of it > in the mailing list archives. The only likely hits I saw searching the mailists were talking about DVD players, and this is just a plain ol' CD. And as I mentioned, all the other OS' I tried could read the (iso9660 part of) the same disk just fine without any new-fangled css-auth stuff. Greg. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 21:17:42 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 21:17:39 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF3437B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 145hoU-000Ew2-00; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:17:18 -0800 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:17:12 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Matt Dillon Cc: Kachun Lee , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extreme high load with 12/7 4-releng In-Reply-To: <200012120257.eBC2vC798971@earth.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Matt Dillon wrote: > > :I upgraded 2 of our servers from 4-releng around 4.1.1-release to one that > :cvsup on Dec 7. Before the upgrade, the systems were running at load around > :2. After the upgrade, the load went to over 40 just after few hours of > :usage. Here was some data from top... > > 513 processes? What are you running on the machine? 'ps axl' > > By the feel of it I'm guessing a news machine, in which case it could > simply be catching up on the feed. 513 processes is not hard to do on a web server. Especially if you run a separate instance for each virtual host. > -Matt Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 21:22:39 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 21:22:36 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flux.ptc.spbu.ru (flux.ptc.spbu.ru [195.19.225.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D28E37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from snark.ptc.spbu.ru (snark.ptc.spbu.ru [195.19.225.131]) by flux.ptc.spbu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3/cf-1.0.rbl) with ESMTP id IAA54731 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:22:23 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from uwe@localhost) by snark.ptc.spbu.ru (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id IAA19503 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:22:22 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:22:22 +0300 From: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with video-CDs Message-ID: <20001212082222.A19475@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200012110158.MAA08709@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.3i In-Reply-To: <200012110158.MAA08709@lightning.itga.com.au>; from "Gregory Bond" on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 12:58:26 Sender: uwe@snark.ptc.spbu.ru Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 12:58:26 +1100, Gregory Bond wrote: > acd0: READ_BIG - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=64 ascq=00 error=04 > > and dd gets EIO. On 3.5 dd gets EIO but no console message. > > Is this a known problem? Yes. In /sys/dev/ata/atapi-cd.c in acd_start change flags to ATAPI_READ_CD from 0x10 (data only) to 0xf8 (whole sector): --- atapi-cd.c-dist Tue Dec 12 08:11:15 2000 +++ atapi-cd.c-new Tue Dec 12 08:12:08 2000 @@ -1165,7 +1165,7 @@ ccb[0] = ATAPI_READ_BIG; else { ccb[0] = ATAPI_READ_CD; - ccb[9] = 0x10; + ccb[9] = 0xf8; } } else After this you can write a C program that does something along the lines of: struct vcdsector { u_char sync[12]; u_char header[4]; u_char subheader[8]; u_char data[2324]; u_char spare[4]; }; struct vcdsector sec; int bs = sizeof(struct vcdsector); /* read toc */ ioctl(fd, CDRIOCSETBLOCKSIZE, &bs); /* sic! CD_R_IO, */ /* lseek to track start */ for (...) { read(fd, &sec, bs); fwrite(sec.data, 2324, 1, outfile); } Driver author knows about this and, as far as I understand, has this fixed in his development sources. SY, Uwe -- uwe@ptc.spbu.ru | Zu Grunde kommen http://www.ptc.spbu.ru/~uwe/ | Ist zu Grunde gehen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 21:31:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 21:31:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.zuhause.org (zuhause.org [205.215.217.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCFC37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:31:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.zuhause.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6B1DF7C5D; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:31:42 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Albrecht MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14901.47166.328015.411385@celery.zuhause.org> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:31:42 -0600 (CST) To: H.Lambermont@chello.nl (H) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread4 In-Reply-To: <20001211202650.A77310@moya.hans.org> References: <14901.3163.583160.950770@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> <20001211201122.A1655@freebie.demon.nl> <20001211202650.A77310@moya.hans.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: bruce@zuhause.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG H writes: > Do you know a better alternative ? My acroread4 turns purple all the > time :-( which makes the text unreadable. IIRC, acroread has problems if X is running at bpp 24, but works fine at other color depths. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 22:47:26 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 22:47:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.rdc2.bc.home.com (mail1.rdc2.bc.home.com [24.2.10.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3A437B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:47:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from CR260816A ([24.115.34.85]) by mail1.rdc2.bc.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20001212064719.RLYD6583.mail1.rdc2.bc.home.com@CR260816A> for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:47:19 -0800 Message-ID: <000a01c06407$6a70cd20$55227318@rchmd1.bc.wave.home.com> Reply-To: "Rajpaul Grewal" From: "Rajpaul Grewal" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:47:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C063C4.5BDFB020" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Rajpaul Grewal" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C063C4.5BDFB020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C063C4.5BDFB020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C063C4.5BDFB020-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 22:56:52 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 22:56:50 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from karon.dynas.se (karon.dynas.se [192.71.43.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F81237B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:56:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 72584 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2000 06:56:43 -0000 Received: from spirit.sto.dynas.se (HELO spirit.dynas.se) (172.16.1.10) by karon.sto.dynas.se with SMTP; 12 Dec 2000 06:56:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 13847 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2000 06:56:46 -0000 Received: from explorer.rsa.com (10.81.217.59) by spirit.dynas.se with SMTP; 12 Dec 2000 06:56:46 -0000 Received: (from mikko@localhost) by explorer.rsa.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBC6udG41533; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:56:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikko) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:56:39 -0800 (PST) From: Mikko Tyolajarvi Message-Id: <200012120656.eBC6udG41533@explorer.rsa.com> To: gnb@itga.com.au Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with video-CDs Newsgroups: local.freebsd.stable References: Your message of Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:59:21 -0500. <200012120436.PAA05653@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.6 (NOV) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In local.freebsd.stable you write: >> GB> acd0: READ_BIG - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=64 ascq=00 error=04 >> If it is known (and I think it is) you should find some mention of it >> in the mailing list archives. >The only likely hits I saw searching the mailists were talking about DVD >players, and this is just a plain ol' CD. And as I mentioned, all the other >OS' I tried could read the (iso9660 part of) the same disk just fine without >any new-fangled css-auth stuff. A search for "VCD" should have pointed you to some patches at . I don't know if they will work, but it might be worth a try. $.02, /Mikko -- Mikko Työläjärvi_______________________________________mikko@rsasecurity.com RSA Security To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 22:57:50 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 22:57:48 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta-1.gci.net (mta-1.gci.net [208.138.130.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D054637B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mmp-1.gci.net ([208.138.130.80]) by mta-1.gci.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G5G0O801.KW8 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:57:44 -0900 Received: from gci.net ([24.237.7.9]) by mmp-1.gci.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G5G0O900.Y54 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:57:45 -0900 Sender: moebius@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3A35CC6B.6FD2958D@gci.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:57:47 -0900 From: Jason Neumann Organization: LAN Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable Subject: bad BIOS service directory! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I was just about to upgrade a machine from 3.4-R to 3.5-Stable. While performing a cvs up of ports and stable source the machine took a dump and rebooted. I noticed the above message while the kernel was loading. Does anyone know what, 'bad BIOS service directory!" means? Thank you. JasonN Alaska To reply, please remove NOSPAM from my address. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 23:13:34 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 23:13:29 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sunny.pacific.net.sg (sunny.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEC337B400; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:13:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pop1.pacific.net.sg (pop1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.85]) by sunny.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id eBC7DPo27163; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:13:25 +0800 (SGT) Received: from sleipnir (mcns46.docsis24.singa.pore.net [202.156.24.46]) by pop1.pacific.net.sg with SMTP id PAA25861; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:13:24 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <000d01c0640b$211c6220$2e189cca@sleipnir> From: "James Lim" To: "Alexey Dokuchaev" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: How come accounting limits of login.conf still doesn't work?! Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:14:11 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, Perhaps you would like to give an example of ur login.conf here and give us a brief description of the problem? James Lim Technical Support Executive Pacific Internet Limited 89 Science Park Drive #02-05/06 The Rutherford Singapore 118261 Finger evilfry@sg.freebsd.org for PGP key. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexey Dokuchaev" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 10:18 AM Subject: How come accounting limits of login.conf still doesn't work?! > Hello! > > There've been a nasty situation for quite a long time already with > various accounting limits of login.conf... > > How come that all kewl features, such as sessionlimits, idletimes, etc all > are documented in man login.conf(5), but never seemed to work? It's 4.2 > already, and it still doesn't make any difference? > > What is the problem with all these things? I've been waiting long enough, > hoping that it'll get fixed one day or another, but right now I'm feeling > quite desperate to start doing all the hacking myself! [Well, maybe I've > drunk up too much beer tonight... Oh boy, I was feeling very frustrated] > > Could anyone competent enough give any decent commentary with respect to > this subject? Any information would be greatly appreciated. I didn't > mean to be annoying. Thanks. > > > -- > With all due respect and love and devotion to FreeBSD, > DAN Fe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 11 23:13:44 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 23:13:42 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF5437B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 145jcx-0006gC-00; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 07:13:32 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eBC7DKi04951; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:13:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:13:20 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Bruce Albrecht Cc: H , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread4 Message-ID: <20001212081320.B4706@freebie.demon.nl> References: <14901.3163.583160.950770@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> <20001211201122.A1655@freebie.demon.nl> <20001211202650.A77310@moya.hans.org> <14901.47166.328015.411385@celery.zuhause.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <14901.47166.328015.411385@celery.zuhause.org>; from bruce@zuhause.mn.org on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 11:31:42PM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 11:31:42PM -0600, Bruce Albrecht wrote: > H writes: > > Do you know a better alternative ? My acroread4 turns purple all the > > time :-( which makes the text unreadable. > > IIRC, acroread has problems if X is running at bpp 24, but works fine > at other color depths. Width: 1280 Height: 1024 Depth: 16 Visual Class: TrueColor So maybe 8 will work, but 16 is also broken. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 1: 8:37 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 01:08:31 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prserv.net (out4.prserv.net [32.97.166.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769E237B400; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:08:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from attglobal.net ([129.37.171.128]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2000121209082920402f5o41e>; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:08:30 +0000 Message-ID: <3A35EB3F.AE078B0A@attglobal.net> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 04:09:20 -0500 From: youlgok@attglobal.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Configuring XFree86? References: <3A34C755.C6D8E396@attglobal.net> <20001211190238.E93406@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: This is my current situation: To configure XFree86-4.0.1_10, I use XFree86 -configure and it says: >... >XFree86 detected your mouse at device /dev/mouse. Please check your config if the mouse is still not operational, as >by default XFree86 tried to autodetect the protocol. > >Your XF86Config file is /root/XF86Config.new > >To test the server, run 'XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new' As I remember the mouse is at /dev/sysmouse. I ran /stand/sysinstall, and it hangs at the first page where it says it probes all devices and it takes for a while... After all this, even shutdown -r now doesn't work anymore. It hangs at syncing disks... done Uptime: 11m37s What went wrong? And X recognizes FBSD as 4.2-Beta. Mine is 4.2-stable-20001208. Any help would be grateful. Thanks. -Paul Odhiambo Washington wrote: > * youlgok@attglobal.net [20001211 15:26]: writing on the subject 'Configuring XFree86?' > =>Hi, All: > => > =>How to configure X Window for the first time? I installed > =>XFree86-4.0.1_10 for the first time on FBSD-4.2-stable-20001208 with no > =>previous version of X Window installed. /stand/sysinstall doesn't > =>recognize XFree86 has been installed. I installed XFree86-4.0.1_10 by > =>package on /stand/sysinstall. > > You just login and type xf86config and answer the questions. > > -Wash > > -- > Odhiambo Washington Inter-Connect Ltd., > wash@iconnect.co.ke 5th Flr Furaha Plaza > Tel: 254 11 222604 Nkrumah Rd., > Fax: 254 11 222636 PO Box 83613 MOMBASA, KE. > > Real programmers are those that can sleep in front of terminals... with their > eyes opened. -ricS > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 1:13:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 01:13:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.salford.ac.uk (pan.salford.ac.uk [146.87.255.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D27C337B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 92195 invoked by alias); 12 Dec 2000 09:05:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 92189 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2000 09:05:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO plato.salford.ac.uk) (146.87.255.76) by pan.salford.ac.uk with SMTP; 12 Dec 2000 09:05:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 37865 invoked by uid 141); 12 Dec 2000 09:05:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Dec 2000 09:05:47 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:05:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Powell To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About GCC 2.95.2 -O2 bug Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <913bgg$j34$1@mimas.salford.ac.uk>, Kenneth Mays wrote: >Hey, > >I remember seeing something in the GCC snapshots that the optimization bug >was fixed. You should test with GCC 2.95.2 with a clean environment and >document exactly your setup and procedures for testing the bug. It was a clean environment. I would provide some help in finding the bug. However, I don't know where the CRC is ever generated in the src and my x86 assembler isn't great either. Done little assembler since my 68000 days :( Cheers. Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - The University of Salford Academic Information Services, Clifford Whitworth Building, Salford University, Manchester, M5 4WT, UK. Tel: +44 161 295 5936 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 1:44:48 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 01:44:44 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366CB37B400; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:44:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA30152; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:43:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:43:44 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: FreeBSD questions , FreeBSD stable Subject: Re: How come accounting limits of login.conf still doesn't work?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > How come that all kewl features, such as sessionlimits, idletimes, etc all > are documented in man login.conf(5), but never seemed to work? It's 4.2 > already, and it still doesn't make any difference? One thought springs to mind, did you run cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf after editing the /etc/login.conf file? Also, I have noticed that the out-of-the-box version of the /etc/login.conf file has some ridiculous values for the default class, most of the values are set to unlimited! I had to use the /etc/login.conf file from an old 2.2.8 system as a template when setting up some more sane values for the /etc/login.conf file for a 3.5-STABLE system. HTH. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestřl | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.5-S & Pine 4.21 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 2:28: 3 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 02:27:59 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.abacus.co.uk (mailgate.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5FE37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 02:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from abacus.co.uk (pcantony.bl.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.111]) by mailgate.abacus.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29270; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:25:14 GMT Sender: antony@mailgate.abacus.co.uk Message-ID: <3A35FD8C.AE17D589@abacus.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:27:24 +0000 From: Antony T Curtis Organization: Abacus Polar PLC (UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi?= Guyomarch Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? References: <00dd01c05e2e$e42a0700$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <002301c062bd$2aeb0440$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001210202817.C22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <20001210200204.I86825@elvis.mu.org> <20001211072244.H22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > Without 'quick' in 'head' rules, ipf will process the entiere group 10 > rules, and will continue with the next, non-group rule (the first rule > in [...some other rules...]). > Yes, you can achieve the same thing with 'skipto' but at some point > you will start to have troubles managing rules numbering... I wrote a perl script to "validate" my rules before I apply them (and toast a box which could be miles away and inaccessible). Part of the functionality of the script is that I can assign labels and it would manage the rule numbering - allows me to make some exceedingly flexible rules using skipto :) -- ANTONY T CURTIS Tel: +44 (1635) 36222 Abacus Polar Holdings Ltd Fax: +44 (1635) 38670 > Practical people would be more practical if they would take a little > more time for dreaming. >  -- J. P. McEvoy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 3:49:53 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 03:49:51 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prserv.net (out4.prserv.net [32.97.166.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE58F37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 03:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from attglobal.net ([129.37.167.96]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2000121211494420400gusuhe>; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:49:44 +0000 Message-ID: <3A361104.80043176@attglobal.net> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 06:50:34 -0500 From: youlgok@attglobal.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: 4.2-stable and XFree86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, All: I just installed 4.2-stable-20001211 along with Xfree86. Which XFree86 version comes with 4.2-stable? Mine is Xfree86-3.3.6 (it's about two years old version and it recognizes the box as FBSD-3.3-Release i386 (ELF)) and some of packages can't be installed because of dependency compatibility. Some of the packages look for X-4.0.x and some of them look for X-3.3.6_5. How should I resolve this? -Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 3:59:40 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 03:59:37 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-2.sjc.telocity.net (mail-2.sjc.telocity.net [216.227.56.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A9237B402 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 03:59:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoso (dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com [216.227.91.85]) by mail-2.sjc.telocity.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA00998; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 03:56:53 -0800 (PST) From: "Otter" To: , "FreeBSD-Stable" Subject: RE: 4.2-stable and XFree86 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 07:02:07 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3A361104.80043176@attglobal.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Some have said that 3.3.36 is more stable and secure. That's why it's packaged with the CD. Personally, I prefer 4 since it runs lighter on my old laptop. Since I run it behind the firewall, and all the machines here are trusted, it's not a big concern for me. But that's my choice. You need to make yours. As someone pointed out recently, if you run v4, you can add a line in the /etc/make.conf XFREE86_VERSION=4 to satisfy the apps looking for the xf86 installation. -Otter }-----Original Message----- }From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG }[mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of }youlgok@attglobal.net }Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:51 AM }To: FreeBSD-Stable }Subject: 4.2-stable and XFree86 } } }Hi, All: } }I just installed 4.2-stable-20001211 along with Xfree86. }Which XFree86 }version comes with 4.2-stable? Mine is Xfree86-3.3.6 (it's about two }years old version and it recognizes the box as FBSD-3.3-Release i386 }(ELF)) and some of packages can't be installed because of dependency }compatibility. Some of the packages look for X-4.0.x and }some of them }look for X-3.3.6_5. How should I resolve this? } } }-Paul } } } }To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org }with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 4:16: 3 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 04:16:00 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prserv.net (out2.prserv.net [32.97.166.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3CC37B402 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 04:15:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from attglobal.net ([129.37.169.10]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2000121212155720201fcchoe>; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:15:58 +0000 Message-ID: <3A36172E.73CBD764@attglobal.net> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 07:16:48 -0500 From: youlgok@attglobal.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Otter Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: 4.2-stable and XFree86 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Otter: Thanks for your reply. That's what I though. Now I just wonder that revision _0 (the default installation with 4.2-stable) is more secure and stable than the latest revision (currently _6)? If I want to upgrade the XFree86-3.3.6_6 from 3.3.6_0, can I do that by using package or should I follow the method explained at www.xfree86.org? If I upgrade by package, then would it be easy to configure the X or I don't have to do it at all? Thanks a lot again. -Paul Otter wrote: > Some have said that 3.3.36 is more stable and secure. That's why it's > packaged with the CD. Personally, I prefer 4 since it runs lighter on > my old laptop. Since I run it behind the firewall, and all the > machines here are trusted, it's not a big concern for me. But that's > my choice. You need to make yours. As someone pointed out recently, if > you run v4, you can add a line in the /etc/make.conf XFREE86_VERSION=4 > to satisfy the apps looking for the xf86 installation. > -Otter > > }-----Original Message----- > }From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > }[mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > }youlgok@attglobal.net > }Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:51 AM > }To: FreeBSD-Stable > }Subject: 4.2-stable and XFree86 > } > } > }Hi, All: > } > }I just installed 4.2-stable-20001211 along with Xfree86. > }Which XFree86 > }version comes with 4.2-stable? Mine is Xfree86-3.3.6 (it's about two > }years old version and it recognizes the box as FBSD-3.3-Release i386 > }(ELF)) and some of packages can't be installed because of dependency > }compatibility. Some of the packages look for X-4.0.x and > }some of them > }look for X-3.3.6_5. How should I resolve this? > } > } > }-Paul > } > } > } > }To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > }with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 4:38: 5 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 04:38:00 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9AA37B402; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 04:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA35339; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:41:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200012121241.NAA35339@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: HPT370 RAID - booting In-Reply-To: from "[Ivan Debn_r]" at "Nov 8, 2000 05:15:09 pm" To: debnar@o-c.sk ([Ivan Debn_r]) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:41:16 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems [Ivan Debn_r] wrote: [Charset iso-8859-2 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > I'm just looking at the disk partitions, and the first 63 sectors are by > default marked as unused. So is it really nescessary to have the ofset in > the ar driver for HPT? This has been changed in both -current and -stable, so use DD disks with care (ie skip the first 10 secs) > Correct me if I'm wrong, but in RAID1 it is essential to be able to take one > of the drives and boot from it almost as if it was singe simple disk. Yes, and ? that works just fine... > How does the driver handles situation when there is one of the mirror drives > broken or missing ? Not at all, you have to use the BIOS to either switch off the RAID or setup a new fresh disks or whatever you want to do. If a RAID array is broken somehow, the driver wont attach it (a safety mesure so you wont blow up the remaining disks).. > Is it possible to query the driver to check, if the drives are OK from the > userland ? No. However I have an atacontrol thingie on the bench but its not ready yet, with that you will be able to control the RAIDs and other ATA related stuff... -Sřren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 4:46:51 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 04:46:42 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (unknown [24.192.3.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC1137B698 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 04:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (CPE-144-132-181-87.nsw.bigpond.net.au [144.132.181.87]) by sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA09896 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:46:35 +1100 (EDT) Message-Id: <200012121246.XAA09896@sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au> Received: (qmail 933 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2000 12:46:34 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO gurney.reilly.home) (andrew@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Dec 2000 12:46:34 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:46:33 +1100 (EST) From: Andrew Reilly Subject: ATAPI CDROM not detected after Nov 5 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: andrew@areilly.bpc-users.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I know no-one else has kicked up a rumpus about this, so I assume that this is a problem with my configuration. I have a FreeBSD box that I track -STABLE with. I don't use my CD-ROM much, but recently discovered that it isn't working. In fact, checking dmesg showed that it isn't being detected. I haven't changed my configuration or my hardware. Any clues? Relevant evidence, exhibit 1: /var/log/messages from Nov 5: Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989 , 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA #0: Sun Nov 5 10:15:56 EST 200 0 Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: root@gurney.reilly.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GUR NEY Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (499.1 5-MHz 686-class CPU) Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x672 Stepping = 2 Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: Features=0x387f9ff Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: avail memory = 126799872 (123828K bytes) Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03c0000. Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: npx0: on motherboard Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: pcib0: on motherboard Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: pci0: on pcib0 Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: pci1: on pcib1 Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: isab0: at devi ce 7.0 on pci0 Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: isa0: on isab0 Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: atapci0: port 0xf 000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 [...] Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: ad0: 6149MB [13328/15/ 63] at ata0-master UDMA33 Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: ad1: 6149MB [13328/15/ 63] at ata0-slave UDMA33 Nov 5 12:35:41 gurney /kernel: acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using UDMA33 Time passes, /var/log/messages from Nov 14: Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989 , 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA #0: Mon Nov 13 14:15:20 EST 200 0 Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: root@gurney.reilly.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GUR NEY Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (499.1 5-MHz 686-class CPU) Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x672 Stepping = 2 Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: Features=0x387f9ff Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: avail memory = 126799872 (123828K bytes) Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03c0000. Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: npx0: on motherboard Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: pcib0: on motherboard Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: pci0: on pcib0 Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: pci1: on pcib1 Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: isab0: at devi ce 7.0 on pci0 Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: isa0: on isab0 Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: atapci0: port 0xf 000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 [...] Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: ad0: 6149MB [13328/15/ 63] at ata0-master UDMA33 Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: ad1: 6149MB [13328/15/ 63] at ata0-slave UDMA33 Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a [note absence of acd0] The config file GURNEY still contains: # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices Hmm. Looking at that, perhaps I don't need the ATA_STATIC_ID option, and the associated wires. I'll give that a try now. Lastly: I noticed that at boot time, my BIOS claimed to see my CD-ROM drive. Unfortunately, I don't run this system dual-boot, so I can't readily check to see if another OS can see it. For what it's worth, the cables seem to be intact, the power is connected, and the eject button moves the cup-holder in and out. Any suggestions? Any more information that I can provide, or tests that I can perform? -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 4:50:51 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 04:50:48 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD17337B400; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 04:50:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA38704; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:54:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200012121254.NAA38704@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: ATAPI CDROM not detected after Nov 5 In-Reply-To: <200012121246.XAA09898@sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au> from Andrew Reilly at "Dec 12, 2000 11:46:33 pm" To: areilly@bigpond.net.au (Andrew Reilly) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:54:01 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, sos@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Andrew Reilly wrote: > > Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA #0: Sun Nov 5 10:15:56 EST 200 > Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA #0: Mon Nov 13 14:15:20 EST 200 Uhm, seems to me that this is the same source being built or what ?? Upgrade to at least 4.2-RELEASE... -Sřren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 4:53:42 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 04:53:40 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cleopatra.aha.ru (cleopatra.zenon.net [195.2.64.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615FA37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 04:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.2.69.76] (HELO zenon.net) by cleopatra.aha.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4b6) with ESMTP id 173590; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:53:37 +0300 Sender: mdh@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3A361FD1.FACF1153@zenon.net> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:53:37 +0300 From: Andrey Podkolzin Organization: Zenon N.S.P. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Wong Cc: =?koi8-r?Q?R=E9mi?= Guyomarch , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER? References: <00dd01c05e2e$e42a0700$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> <20001209112247.A22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <20001210111051.F86825@elvis.mu.org> <20001210194648.B22773@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <003101c062f3$4a9eccf0$0300a8c0@magus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG William Wong wrote: > If it is possible to use both packages at the same time, which gets > processed first? IPFIREWALL -- Andrey Podkolzin, Zenon N.S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 5:18:31 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 05:18:23 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (unknown [24.192.3.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4284937B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 05:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (CPE-144-132-181-87.nsw.bigpond.net.au [144.132.181.87]) by sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA12531 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:18:17 +1100 (EDT) Message-Id: <200012121318.AAA12531@sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au> Received: (qmail 727 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2000 13:18:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO gurney.reilly.home) (andrew@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Dec 2000 13:18:16 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:18:15 +1100 (EST) From: Andrew Reilly Subject: Re: ATAPI CDROM not detected after Nov 5 To: sos@freebsd.dk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <200012121254.NAA38704@freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: andrew@areilly.bpc-users.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Soren, Thanks for the quick response. On 12 Dec, Soren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Andrew Reilly wrote: >> >> Nov 5 12:35:40 gurney /kernel: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA #0: Sun Nov 5 10:15:56 EST 200 > > >> Nov 14 14:39:32 gurney /kernel: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA #0: Mon Nov 13 14:15:20 EST 200 > > Uhm, seems to me that this is the same source being built or what ?? They might have been, but I don't usually re-boot unless I've done an upgrade. Maybe I just built twice while the source was at BETA#0 stage? In any case: > Upgrade to at least 4.2-RELEASE... This has indeed caused the CD to be found again. Not quite a perfect test, because I did make the change to the config to un-wire the controllers and disks. Fortunately that doesn't seem to have messed up the disk mounting or booting. For what it's worth, the equivelant bits of log are: Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989 , 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Tue Dec 12 23:56:32 EST 2 000 Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: root@gurney.reilly.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GUR NEY Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (499.1 5-MHz 686-class CPU) Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x672 Stepping = 2 Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: Features=0x387f9ff Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: avail memory = 126795776 (123824K bytes) Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03c1000. Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: npx0: on motherboard Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: pcib0: on motherboard Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: pci0: on pcib0 Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: pci1: on pcib1 Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: isab0: at devi ce 7.0 on pci0 Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: isa0: on isab0 Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: atapci0: port 0xf 000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 [...] Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: ad0: 6149MB [13328/15/ 63] at ata0-master UDMA33 Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: ad1: 6149MB [13328/15/ 63] at ata0-slave UDMA33 Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using UDMA33 Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Dec 13 00:06:18 gurney /kernel: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a Thanks again, and sorry for the disturbance, -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 5:35:17 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 05:35:16 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from newport.piter.net (unknown [195.131.87.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D292B37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 05:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cyril@localhost) by newport.piter.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA86409; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:37:58 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from cyril) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:37:58 +0300 (MSK) From: "Cyril A. Vechera" Message-Id: <200012121337.QAA86409@newport.piter.net> To: bright@wintelcom.net, danh@gelatinous.com Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20001211121635.F16205@fw.wintelcom.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * danh@gelatinous.com [001211 11:50] wrote: > Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates > on my / partition? The total pure way is to mount / read-only with softupdating other file systems. Cyril. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 6:31:14 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 06:31:12 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moon.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3521B37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 06:31:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by moon.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06814; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:28:07 +0200 To: Mark Powell Subject: Re: Different gcc optimisations cause IP packet CRC problems Message-ID: <976631287.3a3635f76b812@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:28:07 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Mark Powell : > Hi, > On a PIII 600E, compiling a week old 4.2S kernel with the following > options: > > -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -mpentium -march=pentium -pipe -O2 may be buggy. I used -O -march=pentiumpro without any troubles. It's a known fact that higher optimizations can cause trouble (search mailing list) --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 6:50:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 06:50:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from css-1.cs.iastate.edu (css-1.cs.iastate.edu [129.186.3.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA95337B400; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 06:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from popeye.cs.iastate.edu (ghelmer@popeye.cs.iastate.edu [129.186.3.4]) by css-1.cs.iastate.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA07272; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:50:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (ghelmer@localhost) by popeye.cs.iastate.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA17599; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:50:38 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: popeye.cs.iastate.edu: ghelmer owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:50:37 -0600 (CST) From: Guy Helmer To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How come accounting limits of login.conf still doesn't work?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > There've been a nasty situation for quite a long time already with > various accounting limits of login.conf... > > How come that all kewl features, such as sessionlimits, idletimes, etc all > are documented in man login.conf(5), but never seemed to work? It's 4.2 > already, and it still doesn't make any difference? The problem is that no process hangs around after a login to enforce these limits. I have some dusty code that enforces time limits that I've been thinking about improving (to handle all the "kewl" features you mention) and bringing into (or invoking from) login(1). It would mean an extra process hanging around for each login, but processes are cheap :-) Guy Guy Helmer, Ph.D. Sr. Software Engineer, Palisade Systems --- ghelmer@palisadesys.com Research Assistant, Dept. of Computer Science --- ghelmer@cs.iastate.edu http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~ghelmer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 7:27:41 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 07:27:39 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F20437B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 07:27:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [208.184.13.195]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C03C9A5 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:27:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [208.184.13.196]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2907D2E451 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:27:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBCFRcs79919; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:27:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14902.17385.764596.248804@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:27:37 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread4 In-Reply-To: <20001212081320.B4706@freebie.demon.nl> References: <14901.3163.583160.950770@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> <20001211201122.A1655@freebie.demon.nl> <20001211202650.A77310@moya.hans.org> <14901.47166.328015.411385@celery.zuhause.org> <20001212081320.B4706@freebie.demon.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "WB" == Wilko Bulte writes: WB> On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 11:31:42PM -0600, Bruce Albrecht wrote: >> >> IIRC, acroread has problems if X is running at bpp 24, but works fine >> at other color depths. WB> Width: 1280 WB> Height: 1024 WB> Depth: 16 WB> Visual Class: TrueColor WB> So maybe 8 will work, but 16 is also broken. I don't think it is broken. I never have any problems reading PDF files with acroread4, nor any purple-izing of the display. number of visuals: 1 default visual id: 0x20 visual: visual id: 0x20 class: TrueColor depth: 24 planes available colormap entries: 256 per subfield I installed acroread 4.05 from ports. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 7:37:31 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 07:37:29 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f178.hotmail.com [216.32.181.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283AB37B404 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 07:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 07:37:29 -0800 Received: from 64.240.243.103 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:37:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.240.243.103] From: "Kenneth Mays" To: khera@kciLink.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread4 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:37:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2000 15:37:29.0044 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F65B940:01C06451] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Usually this is a driver issue. I use Acrobat in many display modes and I haven't run across this problem unless my video driver was flaky. Check the knowledge base of Acobe for Acrobat reader v4.0-4.05c for issues relating on both Win/UNIX systems and see if it hasn't been reported elsewhere. Ken >From: Vivek Khera >To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: acroread4 >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:27:37 -0500 > > >>>>> "WB" == Wilko Bulte writes: > >WB> On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 11:31:42PM -0600, Bruce Albrecht wrote: > >> > >> IIRC, acroread has problems if X is running at bpp 24, but works fine > >> at other color depths. > >WB> Width: 1280 >WB> Height: 1024 >WB> Depth: 16 >WB> Visual Class: TrueColor > >WB> So maybe 8 will work, but 16 is also broken. > >I don't think it is broken. I never have any problems reading PDF >files with acroread4, nor any purple-izing of the display. > > number of visuals: 1 > default visual id: 0x20 > visual: > visual id: 0x20 > class: TrueColor > depth: 24 planes > available colormap entries: 256 per subfield > > >I installed acroread 4.05 from ports. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 7:55:34 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 07:55:29 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.magpage.com (trinity.magpage.com [216.155.0.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B69137B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 07:55:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from magpage.com (poomba.magpage.com [216.155.24.136]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBCFtM428338; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:55:22 -0500 Sender: dfrazier@magpage.com Message-ID: <3A364A69.F1AE07AF@magpage.com> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:55:21 -0500 From: Daniel Frazier Organization: Magpage Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: youlgok@attglobal.net Cc: Otter , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: 4.2-stable and XFree86 References: <3A36172E.73CBD764@attglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Use the ports, Luke... :) cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86 make pkg_delete -f XFree86-3.3.6_0 make install then run xf86config(or XF86Setup) unless you've got a good XF86Config already. compiling this sucker takes a while though, so be prepared to wait... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Frazier Tel: 302-239-5900 Ext. 231 System Administrator Fax: 302-239-3909 MAGPAGE, We Power the Internet WWW: http://www.magpage.com/ youlgok@attglobal.net wrote: > > Hi, Otter: > > Thanks for your reply. That's what I though. Now I just wonder that > revision _0 (the default installation with 4.2-stable) is more secure and > stable than the latest revision (currently _6)? > > If I want to upgrade the XFree86-3.3.6_6 from 3.3.6_0, can I do that by > using package or should I follow the method explained at www.xfree86.org? > If I upgrade by package, then would it be easy to configure the X or I > don't have to do it at all? > > Thanks a lot again. > > -Paul > > Otter wrote: > > > Some have said that 3.3.36 is more stable and secure. That's why it's > > packaged with the CD. Personally, I prefer 4 since it runs lighter on > > my old laptop. Since I run it behind the firewall, and all the > > machines here are trusted, it's not a big concern for me. But that's > > my choice. You need to make yours. As someone pointed out recently, if > > you run v4, you can add a line in the /etc/make.conf XFREE86_VERSION=4 > > to satisfy the apps looking for the xf86 installation. > > -Otter > > > > }-----Original Message----- > > }From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > }[mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > > }youlgok@attglobal.net > > }Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:51 AM > > }To: FreeBSD-Stable > > }Subject: 4.2-stable and XFree86 > > } > > } > > }Hi, All: > > } > > }I just installed 4.2-stable-20001211 along with Xfree86. > > }Which XFree86 > > }version comes with 4.2-stable? Mine is Xfree86-3.3.6 (it's about two > > }years old version and it recognizes the box as FBSD-3.3-Release i386 > > }(ELF)) and some of packages can't be installed because of dependency > > }compatibility. Some of the packages look for X-4.0.x and > > }some of them > > }look for X-3.3.6_5. How should I resolve this? > > } > > } > > }-Paul > > } > > } > > } > > }To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > }with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 9:35:17 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 09:35:15 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017D537B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00763 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:35:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eBCHZDj48175; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:35:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:35:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012121735.eBCHZDj48175@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Subject: Re: Different gcc optimisations cause IP packet CRC problems In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: jdp@wall.polstra.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Mark Powell wrote: > I hadn't seen those comments. I didn't think gcc could be *that* > broken. Cheers. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I have serious doubts it's really a gcc bug. I think the problem is most likely that the constraint specifications are incorrect in some of our "asm" statements. BSD/OS uses -O2 to build kernels, and it works fine for several versions of GCC including 2.95.2 (if I remember the version number correctly). And their kernel isn't all that different from ours. A systematic review of all our "asm" statments would probably find some bugs which, when fixed, would allow us to use -O2 for building kernels. No, I'm not volunteering. :-) John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 10: 1:53 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 10:01:48 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pathlink.net (ns2.pathlink.com [209.155.233.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6607737B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from dvl-1 (dvl-1.pathlink.com [209.155.56.211]) by pathlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA42878; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:01:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kachun@pathlink.com) Message-Id: <200012121801.KAA42878@pathlink.net> X-Sender: kachun@linda.pathlink.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:01:41 -0800 To: Matt Dillon From: Kachun Lee Subject: Re: Extreme high load with 12/7 4-releng Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200012120257.eBC2vC798971@earth.backplane.com> References: <200012120230.SAA32402@pathlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 06:57 PM 12/11/00 -0800, you wrote: > >:I upgraded 2 of our servers from 4-releng around 4.1.1-release to one that >:cvsup on Dec 7. Before the upgrade, the systems were running at load around >:2. After the upgrade, the load went to over 40 just after few hours of >:usage. Here was some data from top... > > 513 processes? What are you running on the machine? 'ps axl' > > By the feel of it I'm guessing a news machine, in which case it could > simply be catching up on the feed. > > -Matt Yep, they are news (nntp) frontends, but no feed stuff. They run a custom nntpd that access the spool by NFS. They have been running that way for several years and the last rev to the nntpd was at least 6 months old. This was the top from a server still running 4.1.1-releng (just before 4.2-release): -------- last pid: 73544; load averages: 1.52, 2.07, 2.24 up 1+20:15:10 20:43:28 574 processes: 7 running, 567 sleeping CPU states: 19.5% user, 0.4% nice, 22.9% system, 9.9% interrupt, 47.3% idle Mem: 286M Active, 92M Inact, 107M Wired, 15M Cache, 61M Buf, 996K Free Swap: 600M Total, 600M Free ------- I saw there was a big different in Inact and no swap used. >:----- >:last pid: 26893; load averages: 36.05, 40.55, 47.01 up 0+04:29:07 >:18:14:54 >:513 processes: 9 running, 503 sleeping, 1 zombie >:CPU states: 21.3% user, 0.7% nice, 30.0% system, 10.7% interrupt, 37.3% idle >:Mem: 196M Active, 204M Inact, 83M Wired, 17M Cache, 61M Buf, 1152K Free >:Swap: 600M Total, 17M Used, 583M Free, 2% Inuse, 232K Out Here was a pxl from one of the servers... thanks for helping UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 0 0 0 0 -18 0 0 0 sched DLs ?? 0:00.74 (swapper) 0 1 0 0 10 0 528 204 wait ILs ?? 0:00.65 /sbin/init - 0 2 0 0 -18 0 0 0 psleep DL ?? 5:18.74 (pagedaemon 0 3 0 0 18 0 0 0 psleep DL ?? 0:00.00 (vmdaemon) 0 4 0 0 -18 0 0 0 psleep DL ?? 5:36.70 (bufdaemon) 0 5 0 0 -6 0 0 0 biord DL ?? 16:50.85 (syncer) 0 25 1 0 10 0 524932 17064 mfsidl SLs ?? 0:02.37 mfs /dev/ad 0 0 32 1 21 18 0 208 64 pause Is ?? 0:00.00 adjkerntz -i 0 141 1 0 2 0 904 536 select Ss ?? 2:02.97 syslogd -s 0 144 1 0 2 0 1224 512 select Ss ?? 0:04.64 timed 1 146 1 0 2 0 928 528 select Is ?? 0:00.31 /usr/sbin/po 0 151 1 0 2 0 552 308 select Is ?? 0:00.33 mountd -r 0 153 1 0 2 0 360 140 accept Is ?? 0:00.00 nfsd: master 0 155 153 0 2 0 352 132 nfsd S ?? 1:01.77 nfsd: server 0 156 153 0 2 0 352 132 nfsd I ?? 0:00.81 nfsd: server 0 157 153 0 2 0 352 132 nfsd I ?? 0:00.06 nfsd: server 0 158 153 0 2 0 352 132 nfsd I ?? 0:00.01 nfsd: server 0 161 1 93 2 0 263056 488 select Is ?? 0:00.00 rpc.statd 0 165 1 7 10 0 208 28 nfsidl S ?? 33:53.24 nfsiod -n 8 0 166 1 1 10 0 208 28 nfsidl S ?? 25:32.08 nfsiod -n 8 0 167 1 0 10 0 208 28 nfsidl S ?? 13:27.34 nfsiod -n 8 0 168 1 0 10 0 208 28 nfsidl S ?? 8:34.35 nfsiod -n 8 0 169 1 0 10 0 208 28 nfsidl S ?? 4:50.07 nfsiod -n 8 0 170 1 1 10 0 208 28 nfsidl S ?? 3:03.59 nfsiod -n 8 0 171 1 0 10 0 208 28 nfsidl S ?? 1:53.19 nfsiod -n 8 0 172 1 0 10 0 208 28 nfsidl S ?? 1:19.36 nfsiod -n 8 0 177 1 0 2 0 1172 796 select Ss ?? 15:33.84 amd 1 181 1 0 2 0 876 504 sbwait Ss ?? 0:21.87 rwhod 0 196 1 0 2 0 1036 624 select Is ?? 0:03.52 inetd -wW 0 198 1 0 10 0 960 612 nanslp Is ?? 0:02.82 cron 0 204 1 0 2 0 1536 1048 select Is ?? 0:01.03 sendmail: ac 0 275 1 0 2 0 1372 900 select Ss ?? 0:07.28 /usr/local/e 7003 336 1 0 2 -10 1656 784 accept S: >:The one thing I noticed was the system started swaping constantly, even >:though the Swap Used did not go up. Also, the system still had 204M Inact. >:No Swap Used before the upgrade. >: >:I did some search on the mail lists and saw a long thread in hacker related >:to vm_paging, but I could not find any conlusion to that thread. I did not >:see any MFC, other than a vm issue that needed to turn on by sysctl, that >:looked might be related. Any insight to this problem? >: >:Best regards > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 10:13:39 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 10:13:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE47937B402; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBCID6s74809; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:13:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA31156; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:13:06 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200012121813.LAA31156@harmony.village.org> To: Andrew Reilly Subject: Re: ATAPI CDROM not detected after Nov 5 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:46:33 +1100." <200012121246.XAA09896@sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au> References: <200012121246.XAA09896@sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:13:06 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: imp@harmony.village.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200012121246.XAA09896@sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au> Andrew Reilly writes: : I know no-one else has kicked up a rumpus about this, so I assume : that this is a problem with my configuration. I have a FreeBSD : box that I track -STABLE with. I don't use my CD-ROM much, but : recently discovered that it isn't working. In fact, checking : dmesg showed that it isn't being detected. I haven't changed my : configuration or my hardware. Any clues? I had this same problem with the same date. Dec 11 works for me. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 11: 7:18 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 11:07:16 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from browning.pennasoft.com (acs-24-154-28-99.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A2837B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by browning.pennasoft.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBCJ9xi00523 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:09:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:09:59 -0500 (EST) From: Chris BeHanna Sender: behanna@zbzoom.net Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: acroread4 In-Reply-To: <14901.47166.328015.411385@celery.zuhause.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Bruce Albrecht wrote: > H writes: > > Do you know a better alternative ? My acroread4 turns purple all the > > time :-( which makes the text unreadable. > > IIRC, acroread has problems if X is running at bpp 24, but works fine > at other color depths. FWIW, I'm running XFree86 4.0.1_10 at 24 bpp on ATI hardware, and acroread 4.05 works just fine (as do gv and xpdf, although the font rendering is dramatically different between acroread and its open source counterparts). I'm a KDE 1.1.2 user, FYI. FYI, my .xserverrc: exec /usr/X11R6/bin/X -depth 24 -pixmap32 -fbbpp 32 :0 The "-pixmap32" flag allows application pixmaps to work correctly. I found that using a 32-bit framebuffer also helped some problems I was having, but I have forgotten what those problems were. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net Remove "bogus" before responding. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 12: 5:36 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 12:05:33 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.businessnet.de (mail.businessnet.de [194.173.93.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F66637B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:05:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from HAL9000.Space2001.Net (217.0.203.196) by mail.businessnet.de with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.30.03 AS-0098307) for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:05:09 +0100 Received: from athlon700 (Athlon700.Space2001.Net [10.0.0.111]) by HAL9000.Space2001.Net (8.11.1/FreeBSD 4.2) with SMTP id eBCK4vo83129 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:04:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004501c06476$cd98b6f0$6f00000a@athlon700> From: "Peter H." To: Subject: make installworld: "opnames.h: No such file or directory" Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:04:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Reply-To: HotShot@BusinessNet.de Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i have ugraded my system from 4.0->4.1->4.2. since 4.2-release i always get this error when "make installworld" : ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 perl /usr/bin /usr/bin/perl5 -> /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/perl5.00503 -> /usr/bin/perl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/suidperl install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 511 suidperl /usr/bin /usr/bin/sperl5 -> /usr/bin/suidperl /usr/bin/sperl5.00503 -> /usr/bin/suidperl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/library install: opnames.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. a fresh cvsup from the 4.2-stable source from zero doesn't solve this problem. (bad) workaround : deleting "library" in "SUBDIR" from "/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/Makefile". what goes wrong? -- thanks, Peter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 12:26:13 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 12:26:09 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klentaq.com (klentaq1.emergingtech.org [199.217.151.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24B337B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:26:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from stabilizer@localhost) by klentaq.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA11172 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:37:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stabilizer) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:37:44 -0600 From: Wayne M Barnes To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: [stabilizer@klentaq.com: Re: make installworld: "opnames.h: No such file or directory"] Message-ID: <20001212143744.B11133@klentaq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Forwarded message from Wayne M Barnes ----- Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:35:59 -0600 From: Wayne M Barnes To: "Peter H." Subject: Re: make installworld: "opnames.h: No such file or directory" User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <004501c06476$cd98b6f0$6f00000a@athlon700>; from HotShot@BusinessNet.de on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 09:04:56PM +0100 I have had similar problems from 4.0->4.1->4.2 I cannot make world unless I set NOPERL in make.conf. Even then, the kernel build stops when it can't find linux_file.c. I find linux_file.c "misfiled" somewhere else and copy it to where the make expects, it, and then the kernel build stops in /sys/modules/, saying it don't know how to make machine/random.h I'm stuck there. There is no makefile in ../machine, or near random.h. A fresh cvsup does not help. My DSL has been down lately, so I have not been able to try it today. My problems occurred about 2 days ago. The kernel configuration file that I am using worked fine at 4.0 and 4.1 - Wayne stabilizer@klentaq.com On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 09:04:56PM +0100, Peter H. wrote: > i have ugraded my system from 4.0->4.1->4.2. > since 4.2-release i always get this error when > "make installworld" : > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 perl /usr/bin > /usr/bin/perl5 -> /usr/bin/perl > /usr/bin/perl5.00503 -> /usr/bin/perl > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/suidperl > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 511 suidperl /usr/bin > /usr/bin/sperl5 -> /usr/bin/suidperl > /usr/bin/sperl5.00503 -> /usr/bin/suidperl > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/library > install: opnames.h: No such file or directory > *** Error code 71 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > a fresh cvsup from the 4.2-stable source from zero doesn't > solve this problem. (bad) workaround : deleting "library" in > "SUBDIR" from "/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/Makefile". > > what goes wrong? > > -- > thanks, > Peter. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq.com ----- End forwarded message ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 12:39:48 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 12:39:44 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.i-sphere.com (www.i-sphere.com [207.126.121.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372BB37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fasty@localhost) by www.i-sphere.com (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eBCKdaI10184; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:39:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fasty) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:39:36 -0800 From: faSty To: Wayne M Barnes Cc: fasty@i-sphere.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [stabilizer@klentaq.com: Re: make installworld: "opnames.h: No such file or directory"] Message-ID: <20001212123936.D8952@i-sphere.com> Reply-To: fasty@i-sphere.com References: <20001212143744.B11133@klentaq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001212143744.B11133@klentaq.com>; from stabilizer@klentaq.com on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 02:37:44PM -0600 Sender: fasty@www.i-sphere.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had that similar problem with perl failure during make world. One guy told me make sure set correct time/date and I ran rdate -s tick.ucla.edu then make clean && make world.. It went charm and successful. PS. this really odd strange relate with time/date affect make world -trev On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 02:37:44PM -0600, Wayne M Barnes wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Wayne M Barnes ----- > > Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:35:59 -0600 > From: Wayne M Barnes > To: "Peter H." > Subject: Re: make installworld: "opnames.h: No such file or directory" > User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i > In-Reply-To: <004501c06476$cd98b6f0$6f00000a@athlon700>; from HotShot@BusinessNet.de on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 09:04:56PM +0100 > > I have had similar problems from 4.0->4.1->4.2 > > I cannot make world unless I set NOPERL in make.conf. > > Even then, the kernel build stops when it can't find > linux_file.c. I find linux_file.c "misfiled" somewhere else > and copy it to where the make expects, it, and then > the kernel build stops in /sys/modules/, saying it don't know > how to make machine/random.h > > I'm stuck there. There is no makefile in ../machine, or near > random.h. > > A fresh cvsup does not help. > > My DSL has been down lately, so I have not been able to > try it today. My problems occurred about 2 days ago. > The kernel configuration file that I am using worked fine > at 4.0 and 4.1 > > - Wayne stabilizer@klentaq.com > > On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 09:04:56PM +0100, Peter H. wrote: > > i have ugraded my system from 4.0->4.1->4.2. > > since 4.2-release i always get this error when > > "make installworld" : > > > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 perl /usr/bin > > /usr/bin/perl5 -> /usr/bin/perl > > /usr/bin/perl5.00503 -> /usr/bin/perl > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/suidperl > > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 511 suidperl /usr/bin > > /usr/bin/sperl5 -> /usr/bin/suidperl > > /usr/bin/sperl5.00503 -> /usr/bin/suidperl > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/library > > install: opnames.h: No such file or directory > > *** Error code 71 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > a fresh cvsup from the 4.2-stable source from zero doesn't > > solve this problem. (bad) workaround : deleting "library" in > > "SUBDIR" from "/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/Makefile". > > > > what goes wrong? > > > > -- > > thanks, > > Peter. > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq.com > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 12:42:34 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 12:42:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE50737B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21812; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:40:17 +1100 (EDT) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37641) with ESMTP id <01JXNC38KV2OE7Y5F5@cim.alcatel.com.au>; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:40:02 +1100 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eBCKeA684301; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:40:10 +1100 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:40:08 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: acroread4 In-reply-to: <20001211222030.A2277@freebie.demon.nl>; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:20:30PM +0100 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-followup-to: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20001213074008.T69646@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <14901.3163.583160.950770@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> <20001211201122.A1655@freebie.demon.nl> <20001211202650.A77310@moya.hans.org> <20001211222030.A2277@freebie.demon.nl> Sender: jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-Dec-11 22:20:30 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: >Eh, oh. Yes, it does that too ;-) I tend to use xpdf xpdf doesn't have very good support for non-standard fonts (given a character in an embedded font, it seems to display the equivalent character position from one of the standard fonts). Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 12:46:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 12:46:42 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D4E37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eBCKkUc52350; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:46:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:46:30 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200012122046.eBCKkUc52350@earth.backplane.com> To: Kachun Lee Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Extreme high load with 12/7 4-releng References: <200012120230.SAA32402@pathlink.net> <200012121801.KAA42878@pathlink.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Yep, they are news (nntp) frontends, but no feed stuff. They run a custom :nntpd that access the spool by NFS. They have been running that way for :several years and the last rev to the nntpd was at least 6 months old. This :was the top from a server still running 4.1.1-releng (just before :4.2-release): : :-------- :last pid: 73544; load averages: 1.52, 2.07, 2.24 up 1+20:15:10 :20:43:28 :574 processes: 7 running, 567 sleeping :CPU states: 19.5% user, 0.4% nice, 22.9% system, 9.9% interrupt, 47.3% idle :Mem: 286M Active, 92M Inact, 107M Wired, 15M Cache, 61M Buf, 996K Free :Swap: 600M Total, 600M Free :------- : :I saw there was a big different in Inact and no swap used. : :>:----- :>:last pid: 26893; load averages: 36.05, 40.55, 47.01 up 0+04:29:07 :>:18:14:54 :>:513 processes: 9 running, 503 sleeping, 1 zombie :>:CPU states: 21.3% user, 0.7% nice, 30.0% system, 10.7% interrupt, 37.3% :idle :>:Mem: 196M Active, 204M Inact, 83M Wired, 17M Cache, 61M Buf, 1152K Free :>:Swap: 600M Total, 17M Used, 583M Free, 2% Inuse, 232K Out : :Here was a pxl from one of the servers... thanks for helping : : UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND : 0 0 0 0 -18 0 0 0 sched DLs ?? 0:00.74 (swapper) :... Hmm. It all looks normal, even the swap useage. Except for the load average. Is the machine less responsive then normal? It could just be the way the load average is being computed. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 12:58:48 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 12:58:46 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA95037B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23005; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:58:36 +1100 (EDT) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37645) with ESMTP id <01JXNCQ03RMOEAFHEV@cim.alcatel.com.au>; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:58:24 +1100 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eBCKwTG84374; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:58:29 +1100 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:58:28 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Different gcc optimisations cause IP packet CRC problems In-reply-to: ; from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 03:24:21PM +0000 To: Mark Powell Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-followup-to: Mark Powell , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20001213075828.U69646@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: Sender: jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-Dec-11 15:24:21 +0000, Mark Powell wrote: >-O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -mpentium -march=pentium -pipe > >Cause the kernel to produce TCP CRC errors when talking to certain IP >addresses. As various other people have noted, any optimisation above '-O' is not supported. (Also the checksum is a ones-complement sum, not a CRC). That said, if you can produce test-cases which demonstrate incorrect code generation, the gcc developers would love to hear from you. If you are interested in following this though, you could try compiling in_cksum.c, tcp_output.c and tcp_subr.c (all in /sys/netinet) to assembler (-S) with both sets of options and checking for functional differences in the code generated (-g would make this easier, but can affect the code, so the problem may not appear). >BTW Where in the source is the CRC generated? The are several versions of it. There is a general routine in_cksum() in /sys/netinet/in_cksum.c. There are also a number of special-case inlines in or /sys/i386/include/in_cksum.h. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 13:38:34 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 13:38:30 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pathlink.net (ns2.pathlink.com [209.155.233.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332C137B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:38:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from dvl-1 (dvl-1.pathlink.com [209.155.56.211]) by pathlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA69074; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:38:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kachun@pathlink.com) Message-Id: <200012122138.NAA69074@pathlink.net> X-Sender: kachun@linda.pathlink.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:38:18 -0800 To: Matt Dillon From: Kachun Lee Subject: Re: Extreme high load with 12/7 4-releng Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200012122046.eBCKkUc52350@earth.backplane.com> References: <200012120230.SAA32402@pathlink.net> <200012121801.KAA42878@pathlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:46 PM 12/12/00 -0800, you wrote: > >:Yep, they are news (nntp) frontends, but no feed stuff. They run a custom >:nntpd that access the spool by NFS. They have been running that way for >:several years and the last rev to the nntpd was at least 6 months old. This >:was the top from a server still running 4.1.1-releng (just before >:4.2-release): >: >:-------- >:last pid: 73544; load averages: 1.52, 2.07, 2.24 up 1+20:15:10 >:20:43:28 >:574 processes: 7 running, 567 sleeping >:CPU states: 19.5% user, 0.4% nice, 22.9% system, 9.9% interrupt, 47.3% idle >:Mem: 286M Active, 92M Inact, 107M Wired, 15M Cache, 61M Buf, 996K Free >:Swap: 600M Total, 600M Free >:------- >: >:I saw there was a big different in Inact and no swap used. >: >:>:----- >:>:last pid: 26893; load averages: 36.05, 40.55, 47.01 up 0+04:29:07 >:>:18:14:54 >:>:513 processes: 9 running, 503 sleeping, 1 zombie >:>:CPU states: 21.3% user, 0.7% nice, 30.0% system, 10.7% interrupt, 37.3% >:idle >:>:Mem: 196M Active, 204M Inact, 83M Wired, 17M Cache, 61M Buf, 1152K Free >:>:Swap: 600M Total, 17M Used, 583M Free, 2% Inuse, 232K Out >: >:Here was a pxl from one of the servers... thanks for helping >: >: UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND >: 0 0 0 0 -18 0 0 0 sched DLs ?? 0:00.74 (swapper) >:... > > Hmm. It all looks normal, even the swap useage. Except for the > load average. Is the machine less responsive then normal? It could > just be the way the load average is being computed. > > -Matt Sorry to say, the system performance degraded with the high load. In telnet, it felt like a system with load of 40. With the 'working' FreeBSD, the servers would still performance better (load >10) with twice the connections. I still suspect that it was related to the server start to swap heavily even with 200+M of Inact memory? The strange part was the swap Used stayed relatively low (>20M), but, with top, the swap In and Out changed every refresh. Regards Best regards To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 14:31:27 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 14:31:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B7337B402 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eBCMVE353411; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:31:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:31:14 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200012122231.eBCMVE353411@earth.backplane.com> To: Kachun Lee Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Extreme high load with 12/7 4-releng References: <200012120230.SAA32402@pathlink.net> <200012121801.KAA42878@pathlink.net> <200012122138.NAA69074@pathlink.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Sorry to say, the system performance degraded with the high load. In :telnet, it felt like a system with load of 40. With the 'working' FreeBSD, :the servers would still performance better (load >10) with twice the :connections. I still suspect that it was related to the server start to :swap heavily even with 200+M of Inact memory? The strange part was the swap :Used stayed relatively low (>20M), but, with top, the swap In and Out :changed every refresh. : :Regards : :Best regards That is very odd. Very very odd. Do a 'systat -vm 1' and let it run a while... observe the pagein and pageout statis in the upper right for 'VN PAGER' and 'SWAP PAGER' and tell me what you see. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 14:46:40 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 14:46:38 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D79437B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eBCMkb953654; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:46:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:46:37 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200012122246.eBCMkb953654@earth.backplane.com> To: Kachun Lee , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extreme high load with 12/7 4-releng References: <200012120230.SAA32402@pathlink.net> <200012121801.KAA42878@pathlink.net> <200012122138.NAA69074@pathlink.net> <200012122231.eBCMVE353411@earth.backplane.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ::Sorry to say, the system performance degraded with the high load. In ::telnet, it felt like a system with load of 40. With the 'working' FreeBSD, ::the servers would still performance better (load >10) with twice the ::connections. I still suspect that it was related to the server start to ::swap heavily even with 200+M of Inact memory? The strange part was the swap ::Used stayed relatively low (>20M), but, with top, the swap In and Out ::changed every refresh. :: ::Regards :: ::Best regards : : That is very odd. Very very odd. Do a 'systat -vm 1' and let it run : a while... observe the pagein and pageout statis in the upper right : for 'VN PAGER' and 'SWAP PAGER' and tell me what you see. : : -Matt I think I have an idea as to what might be wrong. I'm going to experiment a bit over the next few days to try to solve the problem. I think my low-memory patch might have blown the pageout algorithm. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 15:17:49 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 15:17:40 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fwall.in.markiza.sk (fwall.in.markiza.sk [195.168.51.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FE537B400; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:17:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from oryon (oryon.in.markiza.sk [192.168.213.3] (may be forged)) by fwall.in.markiza.sk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id eBCNHhS62066; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:17:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vladislav.konecny@web.markiza.sk) From: "Vladislav Konecny" To: Cc: Subject: Intel STL2 in SC5000, segfaulted mysqld Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:17:05 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0649A.062E1B40" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <200012122231.eBCMVE353411@earth.backplane.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0649A.062E1B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I have big problem with MySQL 3.22.32 running on box with Intel STL2 motherboard with 2xP3/600 and 256MB RAM. This is standardly installed box with latest cvsup (12-12-2000) of stable branch 4.2-STABLE. Kernel is compiled with SMP and APIC_IO (as you can see in attachment). I start the mysql with safe_mysqld run script, and after 5-6 minutes daemon quits with message: Dec 13 00:10:07 db /kernel: pid 237 (mysqld), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) ...and restart daemon from the script. Any idea to fix this? Vladislav Konecny technical director ------------------ www.markiza.sk, a.s. =m= 0903/268 523 =@= oryon@web.markiza.sk ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0649A.062E1B40 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="db" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="db" machine i386=0A= cpu I686_CPU=0A= ident db=0A= maxusers 32=0A= =0A= #makeoptions DEBUG=3D-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols=0A= =0A= options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation=0A= options INET #InterNETworking=0A= options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem=0A= options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]=0A= options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support=0A= options MFS #Memory Filesystem=0A= options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device=0A= options NFS #Network Filesystem=0A= options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem=0A= options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem=0A= options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required=0A= options PROCFS #Process filesystem=0A= options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]=0A= options SCSI_DELAY=3D10000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI=0A= options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor=0A= options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support=0A= options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory=0A= options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues=0A= options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores=0A= options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions=0A= options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING=0A= options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies=0A= options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev=0A= =0A= options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel=0A= options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O=0A= =0A= device isa=0A= device pci=0A= =0A= # Floppy drives=0A= device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2=0A= device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0=0A= =0A= # ATA and ATAPI devices=0A= device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14=0A= device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15=0A= device ata=0A= device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives=0A= options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering=0A= #options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices=0A= =0A= # SCSI Controllers=0A= device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices=0A= =0A= # SCSI peripherals=0A= device scbus # SCSI bus (required)=0A= device da # Direct Access (disks)=0A= device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)=0A= =0A= # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse=0A= device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD=0A= device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1=0A= device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12=0A= =0A= device vga0 at isa?=0A= =0A= # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console=0A= device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100=0A= =0A= # Floating point support - do not disable.=0A= device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13=0A= =0A= device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)=0A= =0A= # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.=0A= pseudo-device loop # Network loopback=0A= pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support=0A= pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel.=0A= pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)=0A= pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter=0A= =0A= options IPFIREWALL=0A= options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE=0A= options TCP_RESTRICT_RST=0A= options ACCEPT_FILTER_DATA=0A= options MAXMEM=3D"(256*1024)"=0A= ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0649A.062E1B40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 15:34:23 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 15:34:18 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EF037B400; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 145yvq-000G66-00; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:34:02 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:33:58 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Vladislav Konecny Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel STL2 in SC5000, segfaulted mysqld In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Vladislav Konecny wrote: > Hello all, > > I have big problem with MySQL 3.22.32 running on box with Intel STL2 > motherboard with 2xP3/600 and 256MB RAM. This is standardly installed box > with latest cvsup (12-12-2000) of stable branch 4.2-STABLE. Kernel is > compiled with SMP and APIC_IO (as you can see in attachment). > I start the mysql with safe_mysqld run script, and after 5-6 minutes daemon > quits with message: > > Dec 13 00:10:07 db /kernel: pid 237 (mysqld), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > (core dumped) > > ...and restart daemon from the script. > > Any idea to fix this? See archives of freebsd-stable for a patch. It was posted about a week ago. It apparently fixes the problem, but apparently introduces a new compatibility problem with older binaries, so it has not be committed yet. Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 16:44:35 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 16:44:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DC037B402 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01686; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:12:59 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200012121337.QAA86409@newport.piter.net> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:12:59 +1030 (CST) Sender: doconnor@gsoft.com.au From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "Cyril A. Vechera" Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, danh@gelatinous.com, bright@wintelcom.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-Dec-00 Cyril A. Vechera wrote: > * danh@gelatinous.com [001211 11:50] wrote: > > Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates > > on my / partition? > > The total pure way is to mount / read-only with softupdating other > file systems. One of the easiest ways is to edit /etc/rc and add the appropriate tunefs commands before the file systems are mounted.. Works well :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 18: 9: 5 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 18:09:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FED937B402 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eBD290M79194; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:09:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:09:00 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200012130209.eBD290M79194@earth.backplane.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Kachun Lee Subject: Re: Extreme high load with 12/7 4-releng References: <200012120230.SAA32402@pathlink.net> <200012121801.KAA42878@pathlink.net> <200012122138.NAA69074@pathlink.net> <200012122231.eBCMVE353411@earth.backplane.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I've found a bunch of problems. I'm not sure exactly which one Kachun is hitting, but I think it's likely he's hitting one of them. * I removed --page_shortage in the 'pageout daemon flushing dirty page' case. I shouldn't have. This can cause the pageout daemon to free up way too many clean pages. * The pageout daemon skips pages for vnodes it can't lock. BIG mistake. This results in completely non-optimal paging operation. It turns out that if the pageout daemon is woken up from a vm_fault, which is quite common, it is highly likely that the vm_fault will be holding a vnode lock and be in the middle of an I/O when the pageout daemon runs, causing the pageout daemon to ignore the vnode the vm_fault is sitting on. If you have a lot of processes doing I/O, a lot of vnodes get ignored. The lock-skipping code was originally in to prevent the pageout daemon from deadlocking in a low-memory situation, and to prevent it from locking up on dead NFS nodes. However, with the low-memory deadlock fixes I recently committed, I think we may be able to safely lock the vnode in the pageout daemon now. * The pageout daemon reorders pages it had to 'skip'. The main culprit is when it decides it can't lock the vnode. The reordering for this case only occurs for dirty pages which results in fragmentation of the queue ordering. Additionally it gives dirty pages 'triple priority'... they get moved to the end of the inactive queue, and they also get moved to the end of the inactive queue when they are successfully cleaned. This causes originally dirty pages to stick around much too long. I'm not certain why Kachun isn't having a problem with 4.1.1, because most of these problems are at least a year old. But I can see how recent low-memory handling changes might have exasperated the existing problems. The --page_shortage issue in particular really hoses the inactive scan when maxlaunder is not sufficient to clean the dirty pages. To give you an idea on the difference in performance, running a program on my test box to iterate through a huge (3xMain-memory) file via mmap, alternately touching 8K and accessing 8K, resulted in long system stalls and a pidly pageout rate of maybe 2MB/sec. To disk. When I made the pageout daemon block in the vnode lock rather then skip the vnode, fixed --page_shortage, got rid of the inactive queue reordering, and got rid of the artificial maxlaunder limitation, the paging rate went up to 24 MB/sec and the system no longer stalled. No stalling whatsoever. The system ran like clockwork despite having no free memory. I am going to make patch sets available for -current and -stable later tonight for testing. The changes are straightforward but serious so it could be up to two weeks before they get into -stable. I intend to commit them to -current later this week, maybe thursday. Some serious review is needed to ensure that the vnode locking change in the pagedaemon does not screw it up when you have things like dead NFS nodes floating around. The patches actually remove a whole lot of code.. the result is smaller then the original :-). that's always nice! I found another serious issue related to the update daemon's synchronization when combined with pages dirtied via mmap() (when mmap is used normally, without MAP_NOSYNC). We really need the incremental syncing feature but unless someone else wants to do it it may be a while before I can get to it. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 18: 9:20 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 18:09:16 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8954B37B6A3 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:09:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eBD29CF10491; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:09:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:09:12 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: "F. Heinrichmeyer" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Progress with adsm client under freebsd In-Reply-To: <3A2CB1A6.9231B62C@fernuni-hagen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, F. Heinrichmeyer wrote: > The directories that need backup are only in /usr/local and /usr/home. > There is no conflict with path-munging, or does adsm only see > /compat/linux? As long as there isn't a /compat/linux/usr/{local,home} you should be ok. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 18:59:25 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 18:59:23 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E395E37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA29573; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:59:02 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) Received: from newton.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.18) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma029542; Wed, 13 Dec 00 13:58:42 +1100 Received: from localhost (carl@localhost) by newton.aipo.gov.au (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBD2wfr04034; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:58:41 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: newton.aipo.gov.au: carl owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:58:41 +1100 (EST) From: Carl Makin X-Sender: carl@newton.aipo.gov.au To: Doug White Cc: "F. Heinrichmeyer" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Progress with adsm client under freebsd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Doug White wrote: > As long as there isn't a /compat/linux/usr/{local,home} you should be ok. Have you tried nullfs with it yet Doug? I can't decide from the source whether the 4.x nullfs code is badly broken or not. Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 21:54:56 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 21:54:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from InterJet.dellroad.org (adsl-63-194-81-26.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.194.81.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB1837B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from curve.dellroad.org (curve.dellroad.org [10.1.1.30]) by InterJet.dellroad.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA13439 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from archie@localhost) by curve.dellroad.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eBD5spr43566 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:54:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200012130554.eBD5spr43566@curve.dellroad.org> Subject: boot blocks question To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:54:51 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a laptop with 4.1 installed on it and am going to install a fresh version of 4.2 release. The laptop didn't have the floppy disk plugged in at the time, so I thought I'd "cheat" and save having to go find it by doing this: $ dd if=boot.flp of=/dev/ad0s1 $ reboot I have no idea whether this is supposed to work or not. In any case, it didn't. It gets as far as loading /boot/loader and fails. So, (purely out of curiousity) why didn't this work? -Archie __________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Packet Design * http://www.packetdesign.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 21:58:47 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 21:58:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFCF37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:58:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.211.149]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:57:09 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eBD5wg928836; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:58:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:58:41 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: "Cyril A. Vechera" , danh@gelatinous.com, bright@wintelcom.net Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" Message-ID: <20001212215841.G96105@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <200012121337.QAA86409@newport.piter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from doconnor@gsoft.com.au on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:12:59AM +1030 Sender: cjc@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:12:59AM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On 12-Dec-00 Cyril A. Vechera wrote: > > * danh@gelatinous.com [001211 11:50] wrote: > > > Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates > > > on my / partition? > > > > The total pure way is to mount / read-only with softupdating other > > file systems. > > One of the easiest ways is to edit /etc/rc and add the appropriate tunefs commands > before the file systems are mounted.. > > Works well :) Hmm? You don't need to add anything to /etc/rc for softupdates. Once you enable softupdates on a partition, it survives reboots. Or am I missing something? And this is -questions thread, not -stable. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 22:21:31 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 22:21:27 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4004637B400; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:21:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eBD6LPa80568; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:21:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:21:25 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200012130621.eBD6LPa80568@earth.backplane.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Kachun Lee , Paul Saab Subject: Patches available (was Re: Extreme high load with 12/7 4-releng) References: <200012120230.SAA32402@pathlink.net> <200012121801.KAA42878@pathlink.net> <200012122138.NAA69074@pathlink.net> <200012122231.eBCMVE353411@earth.backplane.com> <200012130209.eBD290M79194@earth.backplane.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have made a patchset available for both -current and -stable on my site: http://apollo.backplane.com/FreeBSD4/ This patchset contains debugging code for the pageout daemon which can be turned on with: sysctl -w vm.debug_pageout_stats=1 The debugging code prints a line to dmesg and /var/log/messages each time the pageout daemon runs a scan, and tells you how many clean pages, dirty pages, and skipped pages were scanned, as well as the calculated page deficit for the invalid queue scan and the active queue scan. This output would be invaluable to me coming from people who still have major performance problems on heavily loaded machines. I would appreciate wide testing, especially by anyone running heavily loaded -stable boxes. I am especially interested in how this patchset performs on news boxes. Pleae keep in mind that -current is unstable at the moment and that the instability has nothing to do with this or other VM/low-memory related patchsets. (Paul, I'm cc'ing you to see if you could run those heavy-load tests with this patchset. My tests showed a remarkable improvement in response times). -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 22:57:23 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 22:57:20 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from linux.ssc.nsu.ru (linux.ssc.nsu.ru [193.124.219.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E70937B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 885 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2000 06:56:43 -0000 Received: from inet.ssc.nsu.ru (62.76.110.12) by hub.freebsd.org with SMTP; 13 Dec 2000 06:56:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (danfe@localhost) by inet.ssc.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03433; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:56:20 +0600 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:56:19 +0600 (NOVT) From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Cc: FreeBSD questions , FreeBSD stable Subject: Re: How come accounting limits of login.conf still doesn't work?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, [ISO-8859-1] Trond Endrestřl wrote: > On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > How come that all kewl features, such as sessionlimits, idletimes, etc all > > are documented in man login.conf(5), but never seemed to work? It's 4.2 > > already, and it still doesn't make any difference? > > One thought springs to mind, did you run > > cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf Yup, I've done this, of course. Well, technically, most of the limits (which do not involve hanging of special process to handle idletimes) work when logging in from console only. This is not quite what I need, since most of the users on my box would have ssh access only. Under linux, I used to configure PAM settings, and they applied to the user session, independent from the authentication method. Actually, PAM support in FreeBSD still seems pretty weak to me. The whole idea seems kinda, uhm... impractical, should I say? I am in no way trying to criticize the developers, I simply want those limits to be easily and uniformally configurable, and work not when logging from the console only but with ssh as well. Maybe I'm doing/getting anything wrong? Thank you. -- Yours, DAN Fe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 23:24:15 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 23:24:14 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nordier.com (c2-dbn-101.dial-up.net [196.34.155.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436A437B402 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by nordier.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBD7PDw00450; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:25:13 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from rnordier) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <200012130725.eBD7PDw00450@nordier.com> Subject: Re: boot blocks question To: archie@dellroad.org (Archie Cobbs) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:25:11 +0200 (SAST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200012130554.eBD5spr43566@curve.dellroad.org> from "Archie Cobbs" at Dec 12, 2000 09:54:51 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Archie Cobbs wrote: > I have a laptop with 4.1 installed on it and am going to install > a fresh version of 4.2 release. The laptop didn't have the floppy > disk plugged in at the time, so I thought I'd "cheat" and save having > to go find it by doing this: > > $ dd if=boot.flp of=/dev/ad0s1 > $ reboot > > I have no idea whether this is supposed to work or not. In any > case, it didn't. It gets as far as loading /boot/loader and fails. > > So, (purely out of curiousity) why didn't this work? It should work; works here, though I used an older boot.flp. -- Robert Nordier rnordier@nordier.com rnordier@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 23:49:16 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 23:49:14 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 235D937B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:49:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 45312 invoked by uid 1142); 13 Dec 2000 07:49:13 -0000 Date: 12 Dec 2000 23:49:13 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:49:01 -0800 From: Jason Evans To: Max Khon Cc: stable@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysql segfaults; is the culprit libstdc++, pthread, regex ...? Message-ID: <20001212234901.P2312@canonware.com> References: <20001206230307.A83605@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 01:44:48PM +0600 Sender: jasone@magnesium.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 01:44:48PM +0600, Max Khon wrote: > Were ACE tests and libACE.so relinked or Jason tried to run tests built > before make installworld? > what about PR/23252? AFAIR jdp had reproduced problems described in this > PR (test program segfaults) I built the ACE tests from scratch, then ran them on systems that already had -current and -stable on them. Jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 12 23:53:52 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 23:53:51 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E45F37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:53:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (Ipittythefoolthattrustsident@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA68423; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:53:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBD7rjG74071; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:53:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:53:44 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matt Dillon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extreme high load with 12/7 4-releng Message-ID: <20001212235344.A73861@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200012120230.SAA32402@pathlink.net> <200012121801.KAA42878@pathlink.net> <200012122138.NAA69074@pathlink.net> <200012122231.eBCMVE353411@earth.backplane.com> <200012130209.eBD290M79194@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200012130209.eBD290M79194@earth.backplane.com>; from dillon@earth.backplane.com on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 06:09:00PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: obrien@NUXI.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 06:09:00PM -0800, Matt Dillon wrote: > To give you an idea on the difference in performance, running a program > on my test box to iterate through a huge (3xMain-memory) file via mmap, > alternately touching 8K and accessing 8K, resulted in long system stalls > and a pidly pageout rate of maybe 2MB/sec. To disk. Would you be willing to post your test for people to play with if they care to? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 0: 7:12 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 00:07:10 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5FF37B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:07:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from asterix.xs4all.nl (asterix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.11]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01280 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:07:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from hm55.xs4all.nl (uucp@localhost) by asterix.xs4all.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id JAA13814 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:07:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from mt267 ([172.20.3.26]) by mail.hmth.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA08219 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:49:34 +0100 Message-Id: <200012130749.IAA08219@mail.hmth.nl> X-Sender: jeroenh@mail.hmth.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:46:54 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jeroen Heijungs Subject: hardware Dell or BSDi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, We are going to buy our first 1U 19" rack server (pizzacarton size), and probably there will be more in the future, they have to run FreeBSD 4.1-stable. Normally we buy all our hardware at Dell, they also have this kind of servers, for instance the PowerApp Web 100, we have also seen this kind of servers form BSDi.com, they have FreeBSD preinstalled, and say they are completely optimized. But they are considerably more expensive. Can anyone tell me more about both these servers, how good is the BSDi machine (and the organization), does FreeBSD install on the Dell and so on? tia Jeroen Heijungs Het Muziektheater Amsterdam, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 0:14:59 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 00:14:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6089637B400; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:14:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eBD8EvD81021; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:14:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:14:57 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200012130814.eBD8EvD81021@earth.backplane.com> To: "David O'Brien" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extreme high load with 12/7 4-releng References: <200012120230.SAA32402@pathlink.net> <200012121801.KAA42878@pathlink.net> <200012122138.NAA69074@pathlink.net> <200012122231.eBCMVE353411@earth.backplane.com> <200012130209.eBD290M79194@earth.backplane.com> <20001212235344.A73861@dragon.nuxi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 06:09:00PM -0800, Matt Dillon wrote: :> To give you an idea on the difference in performance, running a program :> on my test box to iterate through a huge (3xMain-memory) file via mmap, :> alternately touching 8K and accessing 8K, resulted in long system stalls :> and a pidly pageout rate of maybe 2MB/sec. To disk. : :Would you be willing to post your test for people to play with if they :care to? Sure. I put my linear pageout daemon tester on my site: http://apollo.backplane.com/FreeBSD4/ It isn't very sophisticated. I need to get Paul's permission to put the filesystem thrasher / low-memory test Yahoo was using up. That test is a great deal more sophisticated. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 0:20:59 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 00:20:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AA037B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:20:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eBD8KLK81066; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:20:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:20:21 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200012130820.eBD8KLK81066@earth.backplane.com> To: Jeroen Heijungs Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hardware Dell or BSDi References: <200012130749.IAA08219@mail.hmth.nl> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Hello all, : :We are going to buy our first 1U 19" rack server (pizzacarton size), and :probably there will be more in the future, they have to run FreeBSD :4.1-stable. : :Normally we buy all our hardware at Dell, they also have this kind of :servers, for instance the PowerApp Web 100, we have also seen this kind of :servers form BSDi.com, they have FreeBSD preinstalled, and say they are :completely optimized. But they are considerably more expensive. : :Can anyone tell me more about both these servers, how good is the BSDi :machine (and the organization), does FreeBSD install on the Dell and so on? : :tia :Jeroen Heijungs :Het Muziektheater :Amsterdam, The Netherlands I don't know about the BSDi box, but we have a bunch of 2U VALINUX boxes and a few 2U Dell 2450's. Both work quite well. We decided to go with 2U because the 1U boxes wouldn't fit four 70GB scsi HD's, or at least, not in a manner that I'd be comfortable with :-). I think the VALINUX boxes have an edge over the DELLs in price.... a very significant edge when you load high-end hardware into them. I've noticed that DELL charges a ridiculous premium when you order their boxes in big disk and/or memory configurations. However, the DELLs use higher quality construction. Unless you intend to load a rack completely full of machines and have the cooling to match, 1U probably isn't worth the effort. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 0:33:29 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 00:33:27 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DC237B400; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:30:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBD8TBZ67824; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:29:12 +0600 (NS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:29:10 +0600 (NS) From: Max Khon To: Jason Evans Cc: stable@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysql segfaults; is the culprit libstdc++, pthread, regex ...? In-Reply-To: <20001212234901.P2312@canonware.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, there! On 12 Dec 2000, Jason Evans wrote: > > Were ACE tests and libACE.so relinked or Jason tried to run tests built > > before make installworld? > > what about PR/23252? AFAIR jdp had reproduced problems described in this > > PR (test program segfaults) > > I built the ACE tests from scratch, then ran them on systems that already > had -current and -stable on them. what about libACE.so? /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 1: 5:33 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 01:05:31 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9EBA37B402 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:05:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 47685 invoked by uid 1142); 13 Dec 2000 09:05:30 -0000 Date: 13 Dec 2000 01:05:30 -0800 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:05:19 -0800 From: Jason Evans To: Max Khon Cc: stable@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysql segfaults; is the culprit libstdc++, pthread, regex ...? Message-ID: <20001213010519.Q2312@canonware.com> References: <20001212234901.P2312@canonware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 02:29:10PM +0600 Sender: jasone@magnesium.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 02:29:10PM +0600, Max Khon wrote: > > I built the ACE tests from scratch, then ran them on systems that already > > had -current and -stable on them. > > what about libACE.so? Okay, in order to avoid any further uncertainty, here's a more detailed outline of what I did. 1) Updated two machines; one to -current, one to -stable. 2) For each machine in step 1: a) Unpacked the ACE distribution. b) Built ACE (did not install). c) Built the ACE tests. d) Ran the ACE tests. So, steps a-d were all done one right after the other. This means that everything was built using the same compiler toolchain. If this doesn't clear it up, I'll send you a copy of the scripts that I use to build and run the ACE tests. =) Jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 1:21: 2 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 01:20:59 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu (beoclu-01.phy.GaSoU.edu [141.165.40.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29AED37B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:20:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19601 invoked by uid 503); 13 Dec 2000 09:20:45 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 04:20:45 -0500 From: Scott Dodson To: Daniel O'Connor Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" Message-ID: <20001213042045.A19591@beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu> References: <200012121337.QAA86409@newport.piter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from doconnor@gsoft.com.au on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:12:59AM +1030 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:12:59AM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On 12-Dec-00 Cyril A. Vechera wrote: > > * danh@gelatinous.com [001211 11:50] wrote: > > > Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates > > > on my / partition? > > > > The total pure way is to mount / read-only with softupdating other > > file systems. > > One of the easiest ways is to edit /etc/rc and add the appropriate tunefs commands > before the file systems are mounted.. > > Works well :) Those settings are/should be saved. I've never had those settings chagne without my intervention. -- scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 2:30:35 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 02:30:33 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw2.dnepr.net (CoreGW2-TBone.dnepr.net [195.24.156.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68FC37B698 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 02:30:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dnepr.net (dnepr.net [195.24.156.98]) by gw2.dnepr.net (8.8.8/8.6.18/01) with ESMTP id MAA15483 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:29:22 +0200 (EET) Received: (from land@localhost) by dnepr.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18825 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:29:16 +0200 (EET) X-POP3-RCPT: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:29:16 +0200 From: Andrey Lakhno To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: kernel panics Message-ID: <20001213122916.A15772@dnepr.net> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I have FreeBSD 4.x-STABLE box. Hardware configuration: motherboard Intel D815EEA (i815 chipset) with integrated Intel EtherExpress Pro/100+, CPU Celeron 500MHz, RAM 128Mb, HDD IDE Seagate Baracuda ST320420A. It randomly crashes. Kernel panics with following diagnostics: Fatal trap 10: trace trap while in kernel mode instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc01e198e stack pointer = 0x10:0xc02188fc frame pointer = 0x10:0x0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = none trap number = 10 panic: trace trap syncing disks... Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x30 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0197ab0 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc0218750 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc0218754 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle nterrupt mask = bio trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 9m52s Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Rebooting... -- Best regards, Andrey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 2:59:22 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 02:59:20 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFDB37B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 02:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id eBDApMU16293; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 02:51:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 02:51:22 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Andrey Lakhno Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel panics Message-ID: <20001213025122.C16205@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20001213122916.A15772@dnepr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001213122916.A15772@dnepr.net>; from land@dnepr.net on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 12:29:16PM +0200 Sender: bright@fw.wintelcom.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Andrey Lakhno [001213 02:31] wrote: > Hi ! > > I have FreeBSD 4.x-STABLE box. > Hardware configuration: motherboard Intel D815EEA (i815 chipset) with > integrated Intel EtherExpress Pro/100+, CPU Celeron 500MHz, RAM 128Mb, > HDD IDE Seagate Baracuda ST320420A. > > It randomly crashes. Kernel panics with following diagnostics: [snip] Please see: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kerneldebug.html -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 3:53: 1 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 03:53:00 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from newport.piter.net (unknown [195.131.87.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B0537B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 03:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cyril@localhost) by newport.piter.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA95968; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:55:37 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from cyril) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:55:37 +0300 (MSK) From: "Cyril A. Vechera" Message-Id: <200012131155.OAA95968@newport.piter.net> To: cyril@newport.piter.net, doconnor@gsoft.com.au Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" Cc: danh@gelatinous.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On 12-Dec-00 Cyril A. Vechera wrote: > > * danh@gelatinous.com [001211 11:50] wrote: > > > Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates > > > on my / partition? > > > > The total pure way is to mount / read-only with softupdating other > > file systems. > > One of the easiest ways is to edit /etc/rc and add the appropriate tunefs commands > before the file systems are mounted.. > > Works well :) Sorry, broken language. I meant that on server only safe way is mounting / read-only to keep out of unrecoverable file system errors and do not allow usual writes at all (mount -u -w / when it needed). Hold static compiled sshd somewhere in /sbin so we can login in after any crash (we assume, that read-only / is not affected) and do repairs. Cyril. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 6: 5:54 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 06:05:51 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crotchety.newsbastards.org (netcop.newsbastards.org [193.162.153.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAC637B400; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from news@localhost) by crotchety.newsbastards.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBDE50G03431; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:05:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from newsmeower@free-pr0n.netscum.dk) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:05:00 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200012131405.eBDE50G03431@crotchety.newsbastards.org> X-Authentication-Warning: crotchety.newsbastards.org: news set sender to newsmeower@free-pr0n.netscum.dk using -f Reply-To: freebsd-hacker@netscum.dk To: Matt Dillon From: News Account In-Reply-To: <200012130621.eBD6LPa80568@earth.backplane.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patches available (was Re: Extreme high load with 12/7 4-releng) References: <200012120230.SAA32402@pathlink.net> <200012121801.KAA42878@pathlink.net> <200012122138.NAA69074@pathlink.net> <200012122231.eBCMVE353411@earth.backplane.com> <200012130209.eBD290M79194@earth.backplane.com> <200012130621.eBD6LPa80568@earth.backplane.com> Sender: newsmeower@free-pr0n.netscum.dk Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have made a patchset available for both -current and -stable on my site: > http://apollo.backplane.com/FreeBSD4/ > sysctl -w vm.debug_pageout_stats=1 > The debugging code prints a line to dmesg and /var/log/messages each > time the pageout daemon runs a scan, and tells you how many clean pages, [...] > This output would be invaluable to me coming from people who still have > major performance problems on heavily loaded machines. > > I would appreciate wide testing, especially by anyone running heavily > loaded -stable boxes. I am especially interested in how this patchset > performs on news boxes. Okay, I'm gathering data as we speak, but, would you still want to see this data from a news box, if I had *not* been noticing major performance problems, just to have some numbers to drool over? Regardless, I'll keep running the patchset on this lightly-loaded news box (-stable) which seems to be pretty responsive... thanks! barry bouwsma, lame-duck newsmangler at tele danmark internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 6:22:59 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 06:22:44 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from arka.ids.bielsko.pl (arka.ids.bielsko.pl [195.117.233.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E968137B69B for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:21:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by arka.ids.bielsko.pl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05683 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:19:19 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:19:19 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200012131419.PAA05683@arka.ids.bielsko.pl> Subject: New European Promotional Contest From: office@euroleader.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070C33C436192682FC31B74B" Sender: lider@arka.ids.bielsko.pl Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------070C33C436192682FC31B74B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Sirs, We are very pleased to welcome you and present a new economic initiative for producers from all European countries - both western and eastern. 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iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1976A37B400; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:33:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBDFWGQ91279; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:32:26 +0600 (NS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:32:15 +0600 (NS) From: Max Khon To: Jason Evans Cc: stable@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysql segfaults; is the culprit libstdc++, pthread, regex ...? In-Reply-To: <20001213010519.Q2312@canonware.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, there! On 13 Dec 2000, Jason Evans wrote: > > > I built the ACE tests from scratch, then ran them on systems that already > > > had -current and -stable on them. > > > > what about libACE.so? > > Okay, in order to avoid any further uncertainty, here's a more detailed > outline of what I did. > > 1) Updated two machines; one to -current, one to -stable. > > 2) For each machine in step 1: > > a) Unpacked the ACE distribution. > > b) Built ACE (did not install). > > c) Built the ACE tests. > > d) Ran the ACE tests. > > So, steps a-d were all done one right after the other. This means that > everything was built using the same compiler toolchain. > > If this doesn't clear it up, I'll send you a copy of the scripts that I use > to build and run the ACE tests. =) can you build ACE with exceptions=1 in include/makeinclude/platform_macros.GNU? Reactor_Exceptions_Test will fail but other tests should work. and what about PR/23252? thanks, /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 8: 6:14 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 08:06:13 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www01s03.dcz.bekaert.com (relay.bekaert.com [194.41.105.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722DF37B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:06:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by www01s03.dcz.bekaert.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:05:58 +0100 Message-ID: <497C3D8E4D74D411814600B0D03D68C601494D@grd01s60.dcz.bekaert.com> From: Vanwaesberghe Werner To: "'stable@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: subscibe Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:05:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 8:14: 7 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 08:14:06 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www01s03.dcz.bekaert.com (relay.bekaert.com [194.41.105.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5382337B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:14:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by www01s03.dcz.bekaert.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:14:04 +0100 Message-ID: <497C3D8E4D74D411814600B0D03D68C601494E@grd01s60.dcz.bekaert.com> From: Vanwaesberghe Werner To: "'stable@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:14:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 8:51:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 08:51:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF46E37B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [208.184.13.195]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2566C9A5 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:51:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [208.184.13.196]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43ABE2E443 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:51:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBDGpfQ38233; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:51:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14903.43293.114817.244539@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:51:41 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hardware Dell or BSDi In-Reply-To: <200012130749.IAA08219@mail.hmth.nl> References: <200012130749.IAA08219@mail.hmth.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "JH" == Jeroen Heijungs writes: JH> Can anyone tell me more about both these servers, how good is the BSDi JH> machine (and the organization), does FreeBSD install on the Dell and so on? In general, FreeBSD installs fine on Dell servers. I have not personally tried on one of their 1U boxes, however. My luck with BSDi boxes (formerly Telenet Systems) has been generally good. I did have my bad luck with a couple of desktop systems, and one server box that refuses to run anything except linux in a stable manner (I tried WinNT 4.0, BSD/OS 4.x, and FreeBSD 3.x on it before I gave up.) Most boxes I bought from them have been rock solid. Lately, however, I buy from Dell. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 9: 9: 4 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 09:09:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077C237B402 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 146FOl-0003KZ-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:08:59 +0000 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA72550 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:08:58 GMT (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:08:58 +0000 From: Rasputin To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: AMD OK? Message-ID: <20001213170858.A72534@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Might seem a stupid question, but are there any problems with 500Mhz AMD chips and FreeBSD? STR a thread regarding 'make worlds' having problems with these chips, but maybe I misread ? I need to check before I write to Satan^W Santa. Thanks. -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 9: 9:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 09:09:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20A637B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:09:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.173.248.152] (helo=chain.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 146FPR-0000Eu-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:09:41 +0000 Received: from chain.demon.nl (alcatraz.chain.loc [192.168.0.4]) by chain.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBDH0rv14610 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:00:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sven@chain.demon.nl) Sender: sven@chain.demon.nl Message-ID: <3A37AB1F.AA6BE6DD@chain.demon.nl> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:00:15 +0100 From: Sven Hazejager Organization: CHAIN Software Technology B.V. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; IRIX64 6.5 IP28) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Upgrading 4.1.1-RELEASE to -STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've installed a new FreeBSD box with a 4.1.1-RELEASE CD I had lying around. I've installed all the sources with the intent to CVSup them and upgrade to -STABLE. CVSup completed with no errors (it finished just a couple of hours ago), but when I try to do a "make buildworld" under /usr/src, after a couple of screen fulls of info (ie., 10 seconds or so), the build hangs at a "lex" command under "colldef" or something (sorry, I'm not at the box; had to go in a hurry...). By hanging I mean that nothing happened in over an hour of time and that the "lex" process was consistently at 99% CPU usage. I noticed that lex tried to create a file called "scan.c" somewhere under /usr/obj; that file remained at a size of 49k. I also tried to recompile just the lex binary by going to /usr/src/usr.bin/lex (usr.sbin perhaps?), and make also hung at some lex command. Any suggestions, or is the current source broken? Do I need to install a new lex binary, which I can get from a -STABLE box which I upgraded last week? Thanks, Sven To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 9:16:41 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 09:16:40 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from combindweb.com (unknown [212.214.136.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D44E37B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:16:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:14:32 +0100 Message-Id: <200012131814.AA61210668@combindweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "johan.andersson" Reply-To: To: Subject: Installation... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I have a big problem installing FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE The problem is: I have a Raid-card (Adaptec 7896), but the freebsd-installation say that it can not find any disk. How do I fix this? The mashine is going to be a webserver, and I need it up and running now... Thanks // Johan Andersson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 9:21:43 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 09:21:34 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gdmckee.local (gdm.demon.co.uk [193.237.88.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50B637B404 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (helo=p300) by gdmckee.local with smtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 146FZy-0003L5-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:20:34 +0000 Message-ID: <002301c06528$f36120e0$0500a8c0@gdmckee.local> From: "G D McKee" To: "Stable FreeBSD" Subject: Kernel RECompile Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:20:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C06528.F33F8F20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C06528.F33F8F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tried to recompile my kernel. make depend and make worked but it fails = on make install. Has anyone any ideas on how to fix my problem. I have initially recomiled and it was working fine. I have added IPFW = support into the kernel and tried the procedure and it failed at the = same place. I this tried a make clean and then the instructions = straight out of the box. configed the kernel file, and then the three = make commands. kursk# make install chflags noschg /kernel chflags: /kernel: Operation not permitted *** Error code 1 (ignored) mv /kernel /kernel.old mv: rename /kernel to /kernel.old: Operation not permitted *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/GDMCKEE. kursk#=20 I am running 4.2 - the ISO with KDE fixed. kursk# uname -a FreeBSD kursk.gdmckee.local 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Dec = 7 18:22:31 GMT 2000 = root@kursk.gdmckee.local:/usr/src/sys/compile/GDMCKEE i386 kursk#=20 Gordon McKee ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C06528.F33F8F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi
 
Tried to recompile my kernel.  = make depend and=20 make worked but it fails on make install.  Has anyone any ideas on = how to=20 fix my problem.
 
I have initially recomiled and it was = working=20 fine.  I have added IPFW support into the kernel and tried the = procedure=20 and it failed at the same place.  I this tried a make clean and = then the=20 instructions straight out of the box. configed the kernel file, and then = the=20 three make commands.
 
 
kursk# make install
chflags noschg=20 /kernel
chflags: /kernel: Operation not permitted
*** Error code 1 = (ignored)
mv /kernel /kernel.old
mv: rename /kernel to = /kernel.old:=20 Operation not permitted
*** Error code 1
 
Stop in = /usr/src/sys/compile/GDMCKEE.
kursk#=20
 
I am running 4.2 - the ISO with KDE=20 fixed.
 
kursk# uname -a
FreeBSD = kursk.gdmckee.local=20 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Dec  7 18:22:31 GMT=20 2000     roo= t@kursk.gdmckee.local:/usr/src/sys/compile/GDMCKEE =20 i386
kursk#
 
Gordon=20 McKee
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C06528.F33F8F20-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 9:32:42 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 09:32:39 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C8837B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:32:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [208.184.13.195]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596FCC9C4 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [208.184.13.196]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013612E451 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBDHWbF60962; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:32:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14903.45749.905741.791976@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:32:37 -0500 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD OK? In-Reply-To: <20001213170858.A72534@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20001213170858.A72534@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "R" == Rasputin writes: R> STR a thread regarding 'make worlds' having problems with these chips, R> but maybe I misread ? I have CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (334.09-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x58c Stepping = 12 Features=0x8021bf AMD Features=0x80000800 which works just fine. The CPU fan on it was broken when I first started playing with it on FreeBSD, and this caused flakyness in buildworld and other CPU intensive actions like running the distributed.net client. However, replacing the fan fixed it up to run perfectly fine. It has been rock stable since it was put into production three months ago (other than a power plug pull ;-). -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 9:39:40 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 09:39:36 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A3637B402 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:39:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.173.248.152] (helo=chain.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 146FsL-0001Rf-00; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:39:34 +0000 Received: from chain.demon.nl (alcatraz.chain.loc [192.168.0.4]) by chain.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBDHV6v14672; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:31:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sven@chain.demon.nl) Sender: sven@chain.demon.nl Message-ID: <3A37B234.E60F26B3@chain.demon.nl> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:30:28 +0100 From: Sven Hazejager Organization: CHAIN Software Technology B.V. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; IRIX64 6.5 IP28) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: johan.andersson@combindweb.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation... References: <200012131814.AA61210668@combindweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, You need to get a customized kernel up and running, which supports your RAID card AND supports the MFS root option. Then create the two installation floppies, kern.flp and mfsroot.flp. Replace the kernel.gz on the installation floppy with the one you created. Then install FreeBSD, using the floppies to boot. After installing, FreeBSD will fail to boot because it has installed a new kernel without support for your RAID card ;-). Simply boot from floppies, with the rootdev option at the boot loader set to your hard disk. And then copy the kernel from the floppy to /. I've done this just yesterday with a 3Ware RAID controller. Search deja.com for extra information. Good luck, Sven "johan.andersson" wrote: > > Hello! > I have a big problem installing FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE > The problem is: > I have a Raid-card (Adaptec 7896), but the freebsd-installation say that it can not find any disk. > > How do I fix this? > The mashine is going to be a webserver, and I need it up and running now... > > Thanks > // Johan Andersson > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- You know, if there's one thing I've learned from being in the army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a major: got pooh-poohed; made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh -- he pooh-poohed it. Fatal error, because it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers, who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment -- morale totally destroyed ... by pooh-pooh! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 9:42:19 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 09:42:17 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2F837B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:40:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBDHbaZ95534; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:37:36 +0600 (NS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:37:35 +0600 (NS) From: Max Khon To: Rasputin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD OK? In-Reply-To: <20001213170858.A72534@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, there! On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Rasputin wrote: > Might seem a stupid question, but are there > any problems with 500Mhz AMD chips and FreeBSD? > > STR a thread regarding 'make worlds' having problems with these chips, > but maybe I misread ? > > I need to check before I write to Satan^W Santa. I have Athlon 500 (Slot-A) + ASUS K7M. no problems so far /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 9:44:40 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 09:44:38 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.com (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1874637B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from dwcjr (DWCJR.inethouston.net [216.118.21.147]) by leviathan.inethouston.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14B7177EA3 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:47:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <011c01c0652c$d0a1b980$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: References: Subject: Re: AMD OK? Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:47:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a thunderbird 1100(socket) with no problems at all, but I don't know if you were referring to a 500mhz problem or AMD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Khon" To: "Rasputin" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:37 AM Subject: Re: AMD OK? > hi, there! > > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Rasputin wrote: > > > Might seem a stupid question, but are there > > any problems with 500Mhz AMD chips and FreeBSD? > > > > STR a thread regarding 'make worlds' having problems with these chips, > > but maybe I misread ? > > > > I need to check before I write to Satan^W Santa. > > I have Athlon 500 (Slot-A) + ASUS K7M. no problems so far > > /fjoe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 9:47:21 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 09:47:18 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from combindweb.com (unknown [212.214.136.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554B937B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:47:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:45:02 +0100 Message-Id: <200012131845.AA74776716@combindweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "johan.andersson" Reply-To: To: Sven Hazejager Cc: Subject: Re: Installation... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! Hmm... It is like this: I have no other FreeBSD-mashine here, so would you like to create the disks that is needed and mail them to me or something? The raid-card I use is a Adaptec 7896. I tryed to scroll and look how the installation booted, and it found adaptec 7896/7-cards, but they dont seem to work... Thanks... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Hi, You need to get a customized kernel up and running, which supports your RAID card AND supports the MFS root option. Then create the two installation floppies, kern.flp and mfsroot.flp. Replace the kernel.gz on the installation floppy with the one you created. Then install FreeBSD, using the floppies to boot. After installing, FreeBSD will fail to boot because it has installed a new kernel without support for your RAID card ;-). Simply boot from floppies, with the rootdev option at the boot loader set to your hard disk. And then copy the kernel from the floppy to /. I've done this just yesterday with a 3Ware RAID controller. Search deja.com for extra information. Good luck, Sven "johan.andersson" wrote: > > Hello! > I have a big problem installing FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE > The problem is: > I have a Raid-card (Adaptec 7896), but the freebsd-installation say that it can not find any disk. > > How do I fix this? > The mashine is going to be a webserver, and I need it up and running now... > > Thanks > // Johan Andersson > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- You know, if there's one thing I've learned from being in the army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a major: got pooh-poohed; made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh -- he pooh-poohed it. Fatal error, because it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers, who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment -- morale totally destroyed ... by pooh-pooh! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 9:56:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 09:56:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C7237B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:56:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (presence@shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA47745; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:56:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from presence@churchofinformationwarfare.org) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:56:17 -0600 (CST) From: Reverend K Kanno X-Sender: presence@shell-1.enteract.com To: G D McKee Cc: Stable FreeBSD Subject: Re: Kernel RECompile In-Reply-To: <002301c06528$f36120e0$0500a8c0@gdmckee.local> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are you running your machine with a securelevel of 2 or 3? Check your /etc/rc.conf. Comment out those lines, reboot and you will then be able to update your kernel. On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, G D McKee wrote: > Hi > > Tried to recompile my kernel. make depend and make worked but it fails on make install. Has anyone any ideas on how to fix my problem. > > I have initially recomiled and it was working fine. I have added IPFW support into the kernel and tried the procedure and it failed at the same place. I this tried a make clean and then the instructions straight out of the box. configed the kernel file, and then the three make commands. > > > kursk# make install > chflags noschg /kernel > chflags: /kernel: Operation not permitted > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > mv /kernel /kernel.old > mv: rename /kernel to /kernel.old: Operation not permitted > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/GDMCKEE. > kursk# > > I am running 4.2 - the ISO with KDE fixed. > > kursk# uname -a > FreeBSD kursk.gdmckee.local 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Dec 7 18:22:31 GMT 2000 root@kursk.gdmckee.local:/usr/src/sys/compile/GDMCKEE i386 > kursk# > > Gordon McKee > ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== The Exploding Fruit Challenge! Rev. K. Kanno www.energybeam.com blowup-fruit@energybeam.com ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 10: 1:28 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 10:01:26 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D80537B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA67627; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:01:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Sender: des@ofug.org X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: "G D McKee" Cc: "Stable FreeBSD" Subject: Re: Kernel RECompile References: <002301c06528$f36120e0$0500a8c0@gdmckee.local> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 13 Dec 2000 19:01:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: "G D McKee"'s message of "Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:20:12 -0000" Message-ID: Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 1) your system is running at a non-zero securelevel. 2) you don't need to compile ipfw into the kernel, you can just add 'ipfw_load="YES"' to /boot/loader.conf. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 10: 3:52 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 10:03:50 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from combindweb.com (unknown [212.214.136.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B36437B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:03:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:01:41 +0100 Message-Id: <200012131901.AA65208364@combindweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "johan.andersson" Reply-To: To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: Subject: Re: Installation... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Near as I can tell the Adaptec 7896/7 chips are just ultra2 scsi > controllers. Hmm... you can have right there. The thing is that: I dont realy know The webserver is a noname, built in a rack. I just phoned the person that built the mashine, and he said something about AMI Express or something. Do you know if this card works? If not... then I have to install w2k =( I DONT WANT WINDOWS ON MY WEBSERVER! *hehe* >What kind of machine is this? Do you know what the model of RAID card it is? Is this a Dell? Are you sure this isn't a PERC xxx ? S -- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 10: 6: 5 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 10:06:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alydar.infoteam.com (alydar.infoteam.com [207.246.83.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0E737B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:05:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by alydar.infoteam.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 510CB6E73E; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:05:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:05:52 -0500 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hardware Dell or BSDi Message-ID: <20001213130552.B4622@infoteam.com> Mail-Followup-To: Kenn Martin , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200012130749.IAA08219@mail.hmth.nl> <14903.43293.114817.244539@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <14903.43293.114817.244539@onceler.kciLink.com>; from khera@kciLink.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:51:41AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:51:41AM -0500, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "JH" == Jeroen Heijungs writes: > > JH> Can anyone tell me more about both these servers, how good is the BSDi > JH> machine (and the organization), does FreeBSD install on the Dell and so on? > > In general, FreeBSD installs fine on Dell servers. I have not > personally tried on one of their 1U boxes, however. We have 4.2-STABLE running fine on a number of the Dell 1U boxes. Installations went very smoothly. Kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 10: 8: 3 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 10:08:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC7637B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:08:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id eBDI7xD26513; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:07:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:07:59 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Kenn Martin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hardware Dell or BSDi Message-ID: <20001213100759.E16205@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <200012130749.IAA08219@mail.hmth.nl> <14903.43293.114817.244539@onceler.kciLink.com> <20001213130552.B4622@infoteam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001213130552.B4622@infoteam.com>; from kmartin@infoteam.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:05:52PM -0500 Sender: bright@fw.wintelcom.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Kenn Martin [001213 10:06] wrote: > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:51:41AM -0500, Vivek Khera wrote: > > >>>>> "JH" == Jeroen Heijungs writes: > > > > JH> Can anyone tell me more about both these servers, how good is the BSDi > > JH> machine (and the organization), does FreeBSD install on the Dell and so on? > > > > In general, FreeBSD installs fine on Dell servers. I have not > > personally tried on one of their 1U boxes, however. > > We have 4.2-STABLE running fine on a number of the Dell 1U boxes. > Installations went very smoothly. We bought a 2u raid box from BSDi. It works great and the best part was not having to worry for a second that there would be some issue with FreeBSD running on it. Second best part is the price is pretty reasonable. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 10:17:42 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 10:17:39 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bach.Graphics.Cornell.EDU (bach.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0B737B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from graphics.cornell.edu (barn.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.210]) by bach.Graphics.Cornell.EDU (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03524 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:17:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hurf@graphics.cornell.edu) Message-ID: <3A37BC7E.319FE29D@graphics.cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:14:22 -0500 From: Hurf Sheldon Organization: Program of Computer Graphics, Cornell University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.2 stable SCSI errors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Folks, We are getting "Queuing a BDR SCB" errors and then related problems trying to access a DLT tape library via `amlabel` or `chio` (which `amlabel` uses). It seems to be related to wait-states as acessing the first 6 slots never causes an error - slots 7+ do - the library seems to take longer to seat the cartridges as it homes each time before shopping for a cartridge. The drive works fine on an HPUX system. We've gone into the SCSI card and reset the tranfer rate to 10mb/s. I looked for some notes re: this and the only reference I found was re: dual CPU interrpts; we are using a dual PII system. As I write this a single cpu kernal is being built that we will try. Should we try a single cpu motherboard system or? System description: System 4.2 stable (cvsup 12/10/00) Dual 266mhz PII, PB2-D ASUS MB, Adaptec 3940 card Overland 4000 DLT tape library thanks, hurf -- Hurf Sheldon, Dir. Research Systems email: hurf@graphics.cornell.edu Program of Computer Graphics voice:607 255 6713 fax:607 255 0806 580 Rhodes Hall, Cornell University http://www.graphics.cornell.edu/~hurf/ Ithaca, N.Y. 14853 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 10:21:19 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 10:21:17 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amsmta04-svc.chello.nl (mail-out.chello.nl [213.46.240.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E1B37B402 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from chello.nl ([212.187.13.238]) by amsmta04-svc.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 832340a6ecc0544b7f0f53eeb27ba332) with ESMTP id <20001213182240.BCUG12531.amsmta04-svc@chello.nl> for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:22:40 +0100 Sender: dehartog@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3A37BE1B.8B94C595@chello.nl> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:21:15 +0100 From: Hans de Hartog Organization: rootsr X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; NetBSD 1.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: nl, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: apach_ssl+php(+ipv6), howto? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I want apache with ssl, php (and if possible, ipv6). If I install apache+mod_ssl and after that mod_php, a (re?)install of vanilla apache is done. Do I have to worry about that? If I also want apache_ipv6, can someone please tell me which packages to install (and in what sequence). Thanks for your insight, Hans de Hartog To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 10:28: 6 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 10:28:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EA137B400; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:28:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eBDIQaX84247; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:26:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:26:36 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200012131826.eBDIQaX84247@earth.backplane.com> To: News Account Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patches available (was Re: Extreme high load with 12/7 4-releng) References: <200012120230.SAA32402@pathlink.net> <200012121801.KAA42878@pathlink.net> <200012122138.NAA69074@pathlink.net> <200012122231.eBCMVE353411@earth.backplane.com> <200012130209.eBD290M79194@earth.backplane.com> <200012130621.eBD6LPa80568@earth.backplane.com> <200012131405.eBDE50G03431@crotchety.newsbastards.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :> I have made a patchset available for both -current and -stable on my site: :> http://apollo.backplane.com/FreeBSD4/ :> sysctl -w vm.debug_pageout_stats=1 :> The debugging code prints a line to dmesg and /var/log/messages each :> time the pageout daemon runs a scan, and tells you how many clean pages, :[...] :> This output would be invaluable to me coming from people who still have :> major performance problems on heavily loaded machines. :> :> I would appreciate wide testing, especially by anyone running heavily :> loaded -stable boxes. I am especially interested in how this patchset :> performs on news boxes. : :Okay, I'm gathering data as we speak, but, would you still want to see :this data from a news box, if I had *not* been noticing major performance :problems, just to have some numbers to drool over? : :Regardless, I'll keep running the patchset on this lightly-loaded news :box (-stable) which seems to be pretty responsive... : :thanks! :barry bouwsma, lame-duck newsmangler at tele danmark internet Well, sure! Ego-stuffing is what we programmers live for :-) What I would be most interested in on your particular system is how this patchset performs with your madvise() hack removed and comparing that with your original numbers (prior to when you add the madvise()). -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 10:32: 6 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 10:32:03 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 82ED737B404 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:32:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 64114 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2000 18:29:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO telehouse.ch) ([195.134.128.53]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Dec 2000 18:29:51 -0000 Message-ID: <3A37C07A.8950B7CF@telehouse.ch> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:31:22 +0100 From: Andre Oppermann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hackers@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: su root hangs when logged in via SSH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got a strange problem on two of my FreeBSD machines (4.1R and 4.2-STABLE 20001207). Whenever I try to su to root it (su) just hangs and does not execute the login. Also when supplying the wrong password after emitting the message it will just hang and I have to kill it with ^C. Su'ing to another normal user works. Also su'ing to root works when logged in via telnet. On -current all this works fine. Does this ring any bells? -- Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 11:50:17 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 11:50:16 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.360.com (unknown [63.226.206.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97CE37B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from seaexch1.us.360.com (seaexch1.us.360.com [172.16.1.15]) by mail.360.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA31037 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:45:44 -0800 Received: by seaexch1.us.360.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:48:20 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Pierce To: "'freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:48:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 11:59:13 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 11:59:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nevermind.kiev.ua (unknown [212.109.53.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5128337B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from never@localhost) by nevermind.kiev.ua (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBDJwwA33954; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:58:58 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from never) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:58:58 +0200 From: Nevermind To: Hans de Hartog Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apach_ssl+php(+ipv6), howto? Message-ID: <20001213215857.I13031@nevermind.kiev.ua> References: <3A37BE1B.8B94C595@chello.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A37BE1B.8B94C595@chello.nl>; from j.dehartog@chello.nl on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 07:21:15PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Hans de Hartog! On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 07:21:15PM +0100, you wrote: > I want apache with ssl, php (and if possible, ipv6). > If I install apache+mod_ssl and after that mod_php, > a (re?)install of vanilla apache is done. Do I have > to worry about that? If I also want apache_ipv6, > can someone please tell me which packages to install > (and in what sequence). That's the way I've done it Server Version: Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) PHP/4.0.3pl1 mod_ssl/2.6.6 OpenSSL/0.9.5a rus/PL29.7 First I've installed apache with mod_ssl. (I've used diffrent prefix, not standard one) then I've copied apxs to the place, mod_php4 wants it to be. (just look in mod_php4's Makefile. then make configure in mod_php4 then cd to work dir, ./configure width different prefix and make install there (not in ports's tree dir) (Sorry, I maybe need more coffee and I wanna sleep and home, so if my posting won't understood I'll try again tomorrow :>> ) -- Alexandr P. Kovalenko http://nevermind.kiev.ua/ NEVE-RIPE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 12:32:13 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 12:32:08 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A238E37B402 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:29:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id VAA14241; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:29:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 146IWL-0001nk-00 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:29:01 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:29:01 +0100 From: Szilveszter Adam To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apach_ssl+php(+ipv6), howto? Message-ID: <20001213212901.D5928@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: Szilveszter Adam , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3A37BE1B.8B94C595@chello.nl> <20001213215857.I13031@nevermind.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001213215857.I13031@nevermind.kiev.ua>; from never@nevermind.kiev.ua on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 09:58:58PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 09:58:58PM +0200, Nevermind wrote: > Hello, Hans de Hartog! > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 07:21:15PM +0100, you wrote: > > > I want apache with ssl, php (and if possible, ipv6). > > If I install apache+mod_ssl and after that mod_php, > > a (re?)install of vanilla apache is done. Do I have > > to worry about that? If I also want apache_ipv6, > > can someone please tell me which packages to install > > (and in what sequence). > That's the way I've done it > > Server Version: Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) PHP/4.0.3pl1 mod_ssl/2.6.6 OpenSSL/0.9.5a rus/PL29.7 Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) mod_python/2.6.3 Python /2.0 AuthMySQL/2.20 mod_perl/1.24 PHP/4.0.3pl1 PHP/3.0.17 mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.6 (sorry the above is long...) I did it this way: First installed apache13+modssl, but with a minor tweak: Because of mod_perl and perl(1) being configured to handle large files, I added the appropriate parameters to the Makefile (mod_perl will complain in the configuration phase otherwise) and then simply installed mod_php3, mod_php4, mod_perl and mod_python and mod_auth_mysql (I think in that order) from ports *without doing anything special at all*. and it seemed to work. I have not tried ipv6 though. However, if you already installed apache+modssl before from ports, you should take care that the name of the binary and also the docs location etc has changed, you need to update that in the config file. -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 12:47:51 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 12:47:47 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94CB37B400; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:47:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBDKlgh06036; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:47:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.0.1.4.1.20001213153948.01fc9df0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.1 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:41:18 -0500 To: Andre Oppermann , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: su root hangs when logged in via SSH Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3A37C07A.8950B7CF@telehouse.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, I had a similar problem to this in the past where syslogd was kind of hung, and the su was blocking waiting for I guess syslog to return. If you can login as root on the console, kill syslogd, restart it and see if su works once again. ---Mike At 07:31 PM 12/13/00 +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: >I've got a strange problem on two of my FreeBSD machines (4.1R and >4.2-STABLE 20001207). > >Whenever I try to su to root it (su) just hangs and does not execute >the login. Also when supplying the wrong password after emitting the >message it will just hang and I have to kill it with ^C. > >Su'ing to another normal user works. Also su'ing to root works when >logged in via telnet. > >On -current all this works fine. > >Does this ring any bells? > >-- >Andre > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 13: 8:12 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 13:08:07 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468CC37B402 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:08:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.9.2/8.8.7) with UUCP id VAA24618; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:06:14 GMT (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.2] (eccles [194.32.164.2]) by seagoon.gid.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA69462; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:03:56 GMT (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20001213170858.A72534@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:03:54 +0000 To: Rasputin From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: AMD OK? Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, At 17:08 +0000 13/12/00, Rasputin wrote: >Might seem a stupid question, but are there >any problems with 500Mhz AMD chips and FreeBSD? > >STR a thread regarding 'make worlds' having problems with these chips, >but maybe I misread ? Works fine here: %head /var/run/dmesg.boot Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Sun Dec 10 22:16:36 GMT 2000 rb@hal.gid.co.uk:/source/STABLE/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (501.14-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x58c Stepping = 12 Features=0x8021bf AMD Features=0x80000800 % -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 13:16:40 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 13:16:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD08637B404 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 67824 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2000 21:14:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO telehouse.ch) ([195.134.128.53]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Dec 2000 21:14:23 -0000 Message-ID: <3A37E70C.3A935224@telehouse.ch> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:15:56 +0100 From: Andre Oppermann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Tancsa Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su root hangs when logged in via SSH References: <5.0.1.4.1.20001213153948.01fc9df0@marble.sentex.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Tancsa wrote: > > Yeah, I had a similar problem to this in the past where syslogd was kind of > hung, and the su was blocking waiting for I guess syslog to return. If you > can login as root on the console, kill syslogd, restart it and see if su > works once again. Nope, it does not work again. But after a couple of seconds after restarting syslogd I've got this messages on the console: "syslogd: timed out waiting for child" Another note, syslogd does not go with a normal kill, it needs a kill -9 to make it into heaven. Could this be related to having a serial console? -- Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 13:24:22 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 13:24:19 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9799B37B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBDLOGZ12402; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:24:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.0.1.4.1.20001213161636.01fec1b0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.1 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:17:51 -0500 To: Andre Oppermann From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: su root hangs when logged in via SSH Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3A37E70C.3A935224@telehouse.ch> References: <5.0.1.4.1.20001213153948.01fc9df0@marble.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:15 PM 12/13/00 +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: >Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > > Yeah, I had a similar problem to this in the past where syslogd was kind of > > hung, and the su was blocking waiting for I guess syslog to return. If you > > can login as root on the console, kill syslogd, restart it and see if su > > works once again. > >Nope, it does not work again. But after a couple of seconds after >restarting syslogd I've got this messages on the console: > "syslogd: timed out waiting for child" > >Another note, syslogd does not go with a normal kill, it needs a kill -9 >to make it into heaven. > >Could this be related to having a serial console? Possibly, or its trying to write something in /etc/syslog.conf thats causing it to hang. This might be totally unrelated to your problem at hand, but I did run into something like this before with the same symptons. Take a look at /etc/syslog.conf and make sure its not trying to send output where it cannot. ---Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 13:54: 5 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 13:53:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B2237B6A0; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBDLrn576602; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:53:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200012132153.eBDLrn576602@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Andre Oppermann Cc: Mike Tancsa , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: su root hangs when logged in via SSH References: <5.0.1.4.1.20001213153948.01fc9df0@marble.sentex.ca> <3A37E70C.3A935224@telehouse.ch> In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:15:56 +0100." <3A37E70C.3A935224@telehouse.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:53:49 -0500 Sender: louie@TransSys.COM Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > > Yeah, I had a similar problem to this in the past where syslogd was kind of > > hung, and the su was blocking waiting for I guess syslog to return. If you > > can login as root on the console, kill syslogd, restart it and see if su > > works once again. > > Nope, it does not work again. But after a couple of seconds after > restarting syslogd I've got this messages on the console: > "syslogd: timed out waiting for child" > > Another note, syslogd does not go with a normal kill, it needs a kill -9 > to make it into heaven. > > Could this be related to having a serial console? This sounds very familiar to me. I had a problem like this in the past, and it was a case of syslog blocking trying to write to /dev/console and blocking. The comconsole port starts a getty on /dev/console, which might be surprising if you also had one running on ttyd0. I don't recall the details, but I think that the serial console is definately related to your problem. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 14:50:13 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 14:50:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cswnet.com (mail.cswnet.com [209.136.192.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF4137B699 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:50:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssaos2 (ssaos2.csw.net [209.136.201.13]) by mail.cswnet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E0EC5D319 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:49:56 -0600 (CST) From: lambert@cswnet.com Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:58:32 -0600 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problems booting 486/66 after 3.1 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.10a c10 Message-Id: <20001213224956.7E0EC5D319@mail.cswnet.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I have a Micronics 486 VLB motherboard (unknown exact model) that doesn't like FreeBSD beyond 3.x. 3.1-RELEASE works fine on this motherboard but 4.x versions reboot immediately following the display of the Copyright notices and FreeBSD version line. I have been trying to upgrade this installation since 4.0-RELEASE. I just haven't had time to determine exactly which release blows up until today. I believe that getting 3.5.1-RELEASE boot -v output will require several hours / days to download and install. By that time I will probably not have time to work on it again. I could do a 3.4 install if you need it. What other data do I need to gather? I have an ed0 interface at 0x300 but I can't convince 3.1 to use the kernel.config file to enable it automagically from either / or /boot/. boot -v with 3.1-RELEASE: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Feb 15 11:08:08 GMT 1999 jkh@usw3.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Calibrating clock(s) ... i8254 clock: 1192914 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: i486 DX2 (486-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x435 Stepping=5 Features=0x3 real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x0034d000 - 0x01ffdfff, 30085120 bytes (7345 pages) avail memory = 29503488 (28812K bytes) Other BIOS signatures found: ACPI: 00000000 $PnP: 00000000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0340000. Math emulator present pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0xffffffff pci_open(2): mode 2 enable port (0x0cf8) is 0xff Probing for devices on the ISA bus: atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0045 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) kbdc: RESET_KBD return code:00fa kbdc: RESET_KBD status:00aa sc0 on isa sc0: fb0 kbd0 sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 fe0 not found at 0x300 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x10000, flags:0x3d0000 psm0: current command byte:0045 kbdc: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 psm0: failed to reset the aux device. psm0 not found sio0: irq maps: 0x1 0x11 0x1 0x1 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1: irq maps: 0x1 0x9 0x1 0x1 sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2: disabled, not probed. sio3: disabled, not probed. fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 3098MB (6346368 sectors), 6296 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wd0: ATA INQUIRE valid = 0007, dmamword = 0407, apio = 0003, udma = 0007 wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordy acd0: drive speed 689KB/sec, 256KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0: timeout getting status mcd0 not found at 0x300 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 ppc: parallel port found at 0x378 PC873xx probe at 0x2e got unknown ID 0x0 ppc0: SMC registers CR1=0xb6 CR4=0x2 ECP SPP ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: SMC FDC37C665GT chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/15 bytes threshold nlpt0: on ppbus 0 nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip: irq 7 plip0: on ppbus 0 ie0: unknown board_id: 8 ie0 not found at 0x300 ep0 not found at 0x300 ex0 not found le0 not found at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 ze0 not found at 0x300 zp0 not found at 0x300 cs0: trying to reset the chip. cs0 not found at 0x300 adv0 not found at 0x330 bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff bt0 not found at 0x134 aha0: status reg test failed ff aha0: status reg test failed ff aha0: status reg test failed ff aha0: status reg test failed ff aha0: status reg test failed ff aha0: status reg test failed ff aha0 not found at 0x134 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa fb0: vga0, vga, type:VGA (5), flags:0x7007f fb0: port:0x3b0-0x3df, crtc:0x3d4, mem:0xa0000 0x20000 fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24 fb0: window:0xf00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0x0 size:0k VGA parameters upon power-up 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 07 80 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0: disabled, not probed. imasks: bio c008c040, tty c007009a, net c007009a BIOS Geometries: 0:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 1:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 2:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 3:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 4:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 5:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 6:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 7:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 0 accounted for Device configuration finished. new masks: bio c008c040, tty c007009a, net c007009a Considering MFS root f/s. No MFS image available as root f/s. Considering FFS root f/s. changing root device to wd0s1a wd0s1: type 0xa5, start 63, end = 6345863, size 6345801 : OK -- Scott Lambert lambert@cswnet.com Systems and Security Administrator CSW Net, Inc. ================================================================ Written: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 03:58 PM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 15: 9:42 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 15:09:37 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C849C37B404 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:09:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 69699 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2000 23:07:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO telehouse.ch) ([195.134.128.53]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Dec 2000 23:07:25 -0000 Message-ID: <3A380189.9B95A212@telehouse.ch> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:08:57 +0100 From: Andre Oppermann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: Mike Tancsa , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su root hangs when logged in via SSH References: <5.0.1.4.1.20001213153948.01fc9df0@marble.sentex.ca> <3A37E70C.3A935224@telehouse.ch> <200012132153.eBDLrn576602@whizzo.transsys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Louis A. Mamakos" wrote: > > > Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, I had a similar problem to this in the past where syslogd was kind of > > > hung, and the su was blocking waiting for I guess syslog to return. If you > > > can login as root on the console, kill syslogd, restart it and see if su > > > works once again. > > > > Nope, it does not work again. But after a couple of seconds after > > restarting syslogd I've got this messages on the console: > > "syslogd: timed out waiting for child" > > > > Another note, syslogd does not go with a normal kill, it needs a kill -9 > > to make it into heaven. > > > > Could this be related to having a serial console? > > This sounds very familiar to me. I had a problem like this in the > past, and it was a case of syslog blocking trying to write to /dev/console > and blocking. The comconsole port starts a getty on /dev/console, which > might be surprising if you also had one running on ttyd0. > > I don't recall the details, but I think that the serial console is > definately related to your problem. Yep, that seems to be the problem. As soon as I remove the getty it works. Interestingly enough syslogd doesn't matter at all, running or not it will not work as long as getty is active. Is there any work-around known? -- Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 15:31: 3 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 15:30:59 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466A437B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:30:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA58901; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:30:20 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) Received: from newton.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.18) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma058892; Thu, 14 Dec 00 10:29:56 +1100 Received: from localhost (carl@localhost) by newton.aipo.gov.au (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBDNTub07907; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:29:56 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: newton.aipo.gov.au: carl owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:29:56 +1100 (EST) From: Carl Makin X-Sender: carl@newton.aipo.gov.au To: Jeroen Heijungs Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hardware Dell or BSDi In-Reply-To: <200012130749.IAA08219@mail.hmth.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Jeroen Heijungs wrote: > machine (and the organization), does FreeBSD install on the Dell and so on? We're running 3.x and 4.x on a number of Dell machines with no problems. We're also running Dell Perc2/SC (AMI Megaraid OEM) cards on 4.x machines with nary a hiccup. Perc2/QC and Perc3 support is coming! :) Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 16:26:19 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 16:26:14 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gdmckee.local (gdm.demon.co.uk [193.237.88.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1598737B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (helo=p300) by gdmckee.local with smtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 146MCy-00005K-00; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:25:16 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c06564$539b5e40$0500a8c0@gdmckee.local> From: "G D McKee" To: "Reverend K Kanno" Cc: "Stable FreeBSD" References: Subject: Re: Kernel RECompile Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:25:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Thanks that fixed all my problems. It would have taken my hours to figure that one out. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reverend K Kanno" To: "G D McKee" Cc: "Stable FreeBSD" Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 5:56 PM Subject: Re: Kernel RECompile > Are you running your machine with a securelevel of 2 or 3? Check your > /etc/rc.conf. Comment out those lines, reboot and you will then be able to > update your kernel. > > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, G D McKee wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Tried to recompile my kernel. make depend and make worked but it fails on make install. Has anyone any ideas on how to fix my problem. > > > > I have initially recomiled and it was working fine. I have added IPFW support into the kernel and tried the procedure and it failed at the same place. I this tried a make clean and then the instructions straight out of the box. configed the kernel file, and then the three make commands. > > > > > > kursk# make install > > chflags noschg /kernel > > chflags: /kernel: Operation not permitted > > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > > mv /kernel /kernel.old > > mv: rename /kernel to /kernel.old: Operation not permitted > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/GDMCKEE. > > kursk# > > > > I am running 4.2 - the ISO with KDE fixed. > > > > kursk# uname -a > > FreeBSD kursk.gdmckee.local 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Dec 7 18:22:31 GMT 2000 root@kursk.gdmckee.local:/usr/src/sys/compile/GDMCKEE i386 > > kursk# > > > > Gordon McKee > > > > ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== > The Exploding Fruit Challenge! Rev. K. Kanno > > www.energybeam.com blowup-fruit@energybeam.com > ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 18:13:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 18:13:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (dhcp242.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E6537B699 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBE2Neu01603; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:23:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200012140223.eBE2Neu01603@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: johan.andersson@combindweb.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:01:41 +0100." <200012131901.AA65208364@combindweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:23:40 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Near as I can tell the Adaptec 7896/7 chips are just ultra2 scsi > > controllers. > > Hmm... you can have right there. > The thing is that: I dont realy know > The webserver is a noname, built in a rack. > > I just phoned the person that built the mashine, and he said something about AMI Express or something. Well, if he said something about AMI express, maybe you need to go find out something about "AMI Express". > Do you know if this card works? Yes. Some hints: - Configure the RAID controller. - Install FreeBSD 4.2 or later. - If you have problems, remember that the quality of answer you get is going to be largely determined by the quality of the information that you provide. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 20:28: 2 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 20:27:58 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp [202.32.8.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3E337B698 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:27:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.193]) by TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W00121312) with ESMTP id NAA28939 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:27:56 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsv.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.190]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id NAA25783 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:27:54 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailgw.pcc1.fc.nec.co.jp (mailgw.pcc1.fc.nec.co.jp [10.33.50.50]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-MAILSV-NEC) with ESMTP id NAA17059 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:27:47 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsv1.pcc1.fc.nec.co.jp (IDENT:root@fcpcc150002.pcc1.fc.nec.co.jp [10.33.50.2]) by mailgw.pcc1.fc.nec.co.jp (8.9.3/iCR_NEC_Solutions+00100500) with ESMTP id NAA26003 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:27:45 +0900 Received: from fcpc137216 (fcpcc137216.pcc1.fc.nec.co.jp [10.33.37.216]) by mailsv1.pcc1.fc.nec.co.jp (8.10.1+3.3W/3.7W-NEC/1PCC-000131) with SMTP id eBE4PM116664 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:25:22 +0900 Message-ID: <000501c06586$74ecc170$d825210a@fcpc137216> From: "MATSUNAGA shigeharu" To: Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:29:25 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 22: 7:28 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 22:07:27 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from linux.ssc.nsu.ru (linux.ssc.nsu.ru [193.124.219.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A023E37B699 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:06:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3104 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2000 06:06:12 -0000 Received: from inet.ssc.nsu.ru (62.76.110.12) by hub.freebsd.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 2000 06:06:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (danfe@localhost) by inet.ssc.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA30281; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:05:47 +0600 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:05:47 +0600 (NOVT) From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: andrew@ugh.net.au Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How come accounting limits of login.conf still doesn't work?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! > > How come that all kewl features, such as sessionlimits, idletimes, etc all > > are documented in man login.conf(5), but never seemed to work? It's 4.2 > > Things like idletime would probably require a daemon to be running. I > started to write one a while ago. If you are intereste dI can look it > out...and maybe even finish it. That would be great!.. Still, it seems kinda weird that several quite important features are documented, but do not produce even a bit of functionality. Are there any good chances that (your?) daemon would be ever included in main source tree? -- WBR, DAN Fe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 22:58:30 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 22:58:28 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from linux.ssc.nsu.ru (linux.ssc.nsu.ru [193.124.219.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 064CD37B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:57:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3188 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2000 06:57:22 -0000 Received: from inet.ssc.nsu.ru (62.76.110.12) by hub.freebsd.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 2000 06:57:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (danfe@localhost) by inet.ssc.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA30889; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:55:52 +0600 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:55:52 +0600 (NOVT) From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Guy Helmer Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How come accounting limits of login.conf still doesn't work?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Guy Helmer wrote: > On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > There've been a nasty situation for quite a long time already with > > various accounting limits of login.conf... > > > > How come that all kewl features, such as sessionlimits, idletimes, etc all > > are documented in man login.conf(5), but never seemed to work? It's 4.2 > > already, and it still doesn't make any difference? > > The problem is that no process hangs around after a login to enforce these > limits. > > I have some dusty code that enforces time limits that I've been thinking > about improving (to handle all the "kewl" features you mention) and > bringing into (or invoking from) login(1). It would mean an extra process > hanging around for each login, but processes are cheap :-) So, is your code in usable stage and available as a patch? Do you have any plans committing into main source tree? Thanks. -- With all due respect, DAN Fe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 23:15:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 23:15:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [192.109.159.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0FA37B400; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by picalon.gun.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA04202; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:15:25 +0100 (MET) >Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBE76Mk11577; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:06:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:06:22 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Ilya Martynov , gad@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: apsfilter-current@apsfilter.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: printer spooldirs wrong owner ?? (was Re: Fixes for apsfilter-current-09.12.2000 (printing via smbclient) ) Message-ID: <20001214080622.A11433@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from m_ilya@agava.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:35:51PM +0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:35:51PM +0300, Ilya Martynov wrote: > P.S. I forgot about another problem I meet while setting up printing. SETUP > creates smbclient.conf that is not readble by lpd. For me it was created as: > > -rw------- 1 root daemon 156 Dec 12 16:41 smbclient.conf > > to make printing work I had to chmod g+r on it. I think this is an inconsistency in FreeBSD ... The filterscript (forked by llpd) runs under permissions daemon.wheel, but the spooldirs in FreeBSD by default are created with permissions root.daemon. I think this could easily be fixed, if you would chown -R dameon.wheel /var/spool/lpd and during apsfilter SETUP you should take care that ownwer and group are now setup right to match daemon.wheel. [ Cc'd to freebsd-stable ] What do the lpd maintaining authorities in FreeBSD say ? Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm Powered by FreeBSD SMP Songs from our band >>64Bits<<............http://www.apsfilter.org/64bits.html My homepage................................ http://people.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas Please note: Apsfilter got a NEW HOME................http://www.apsfilter.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 23:27:55 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 23:27:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D0037B400; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from fernuni-hagen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBE7S9r45739; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:28:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de) Sender: jfh@jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de Message-ID: <3A387689.7F70EFBD@fernuni-hagen.de> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:28:09 +0100 From: "F. Heinrichmeyer" Organization: FernUni in Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: de, en, de-DE MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable , freebsd-multimedia Subject: esound and cmi8830 problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, at home i have a motherboard with cmi8830 sound chip. This chip is detected and useable with freebsd 4.2 release. I paused half a year in using freebsd. Meanwhile sound configuration AND network card detection seems to have outrun linux! Sound works i.e with xamp. But esound (tested selfcompiled and from the release cdrom) beeps endlessly when started. dmesg says the card has irq 5 and drq 0 on isa 0. There is no pnp device in the kernel btw. Should there be one? -- Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://www-es.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 13 23:38:44 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 23:38:38 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spammie.svbug.com (unknown [198.79.110.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C15737B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:38:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from spammie.svbug.com (localhost.mozie.org [127.0.0.1]) by spammie.svbug.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06091; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:37:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jessem@spammie.svbug.com) Message-Id: <200012140737.XAA06091@spammie.svbug.com> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:37:34 -0800 (PST) From: opentrax@email.com Reply-To: opentrax@email.com Subject: Re: Problems booting 486/66 after 3.1 To: lambert@cswnet.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20001213224956.7E0EC5D319@mail.cswnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: jessem@spammie.svbug.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you filed a PR? If not, it is at http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html I've been having problems with 486s also. Please file a PR, so one day someone might work on it. On 13 Dec, lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > Hi > > I have a Micronics 486 VLB motherboard (unknown exact model) that doesn't > like FreeBSD beyond 3.x. 3.1-RELEASE works fine on this motherboard but > 4.x versions reboot immediately following the display of the Copyright > notices and FreeBSD version line. > > I have been trying to upgrade this installation since 4.0-RELEASE. I just > haven't had time to determine exactly which release blows up until today. > I believe that getting 3.5.1-RELEASE boot -v output will require several > hours / days to download and install. By that time I will probably not > have time to work on it again. I could do a 3.4 install if you need it. > > What other data do I need to gather? > > I have an ed0 interface at 0x300 but I can't convince 3.1 to use the > kernel.config file to enable it automagically from either / or /boot/. > > boot -v with 3.1-RELEASE: > > Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. > Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 > FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Feb 15 11:08:08 GMT 1999 > jkh@usw3.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC > Calibrating clock(s) ... i8254 clock: 1192914 Hz > CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > CPU: i486 DX2 (486-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x435 Stepping=5 > Features=0x3 > real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) > Physical memory chunk(s): > 0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) > 0x0034d000 - 0x01ffdfff, 30085120 bytes (7345 pages) > avail memory = 29503488 (28812K bytes) > Other BIOS signatures found: > ACPI: 00000000 > $PnP: 00000000 > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0340000. > Math emulator present > pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0xffffffff > pci_open(2): mode 2 enable port (0x0cf8) is 0xff > Probing for devices on the ISA bus: > atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0045 > atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) > kbdc: RESET_KBD return code:00fa > kbdc: RESET_KBD status:00aa > sc0 on isa > sc0: fb0 kbd0 > sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> > ed0 not found at 0x280 > fe0 not found at 0x300 > atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard > atkbd0 irq 1 on isa > kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x10000, flags:0x3d0000 > psm0: current command byte:0045 > kbdc: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 > kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe > kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe > kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe > kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 > kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 > psm0: failed to reset the aux device. > psm0 not found > sio0: irq maps: 0x1 0x11 0x1 0x1 > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa > sio0: type 16550A > sio1: irq maps: 0x1 0x9 0x1 0x1 > sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa > sio1: type 16550A > sio2: disabled, not probed. > sio3: disabled, not probed. > fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): > wd0: 3098MB (6346368 sectors), 6296 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wd0: ATA INQUIRE valid = 0007, dmamword = 0407, apio = 0003, udma = 0007 > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa > wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordy > acd0: drive speed 689KB/sec, 256KB cache > acd0: supported read types: CD-DA > acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels > acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray > acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked > wt0 not found at 0x300 > mcd0: timeout getting status > mcd0 not found at 0x300 > matcdc0 not found at 0x230 > scd0 not found at 0x230 > ppc: parallel port found at 0x378 > PC873xx probe at 0x2e got unknown ID 0x0 > ppc0: SMC registers CR1=0xb6 CR4=0x2 ECP SPP > ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa > ppc0: SMC FDC37C665GT chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode > ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/15 bytes threshold > nlpt0: on ppbus 0 > nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ppi0: on ppbus 0 > plip: irq 7 > plip0: on ppbus 0 > ie0: unknown board_id: 8 > ie0 not found at 0x300 > ep0 not found at 0x300 > ex0 not found > le0 not found at 0x300 > lnc0 not found at 0x280 > ze0 not found at 0x300 > zp0 not found at 0x300 > cs0: trying to reset the chip. > cs0 not found at 0x300 > adv0 not found at 0x330 > bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff > bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff > bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff > bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff > bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff > bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff > bt0 not found at 0x134 > aha0: status reg test failed ff > aha0: status reg test failed ff > aha0: status reg test failed ff > aha0: status reg test failed ff > aha0: status reg test failed ff > aha0: status reg test failed ff > aha0 not found at 0x134 > vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa > fb0: vga0, vga, type:VGA (5), flags:0x7007f > fb0: port:0x3b0-0x3df, crtc:0x3d4, mem:0xa0000 0x20000 > fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24 > fb0: window:0xf00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0x0 size:0k > VGA parameters upon power-up > 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 > bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 07 80 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 > b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c > 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff > VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24 > 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 > bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 > b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c > 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff > EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24 > 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 > bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 > b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c > 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff > npx0 on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > apm0: disabled, not probed. > imasks: bio c008c040, tty c007009a, net c007009a > BIOS Geometries: > 0:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors > 1:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors > 2:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors > 3:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors > 4:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors > 5:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors > 6:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors > 7:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors > 0 accounted for > Device configuration finished. > new masks: bio c008c040, tty c007009a, net c007009a > Considering MFS root f/s. > No MFS image available as root f/s. > Considering FFS root f/s. > changing root device to wd0s1a > wd0s1: type 0xa5, start 63, end = 6345863, size 6345801 : OK > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 0:28:44 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 00:28:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [213.188.21.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765A137B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from morten@localhost) by freenix.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01198; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:28:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from morten) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:28:28 +0100 From: "Morten A . Middelthon" To: Jeroen Heijungs Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hardware Dell or BSDi Message-ID: <20001214092827.A466@freenix.no> References: <200012130749.IAA08219@mail.hmth.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200012130749.IAA08219@mail.hmth.nl>; from Jeroen.Heijungs@Het-Muziektheater.nl on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 08:46:54AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-Warning: So cunning you could brush your teeth with it. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 08:46:54AM +0100, Jeroen Heijungs wrote: > Hello all, > > We are going to buy our first 1U 19" rack server (pizzacarton size), and > probably there will be more in the future, they have to run FreeBSD > 4.1-stable. > > Normally we buy all our hardware at Dell, they also have this kind of > servers, for instance the PowerApp Web 100, we have also seen this kind of > servers form BSDi.com, they have FreeBSD preinstalled, and say they are > completely optimized. But they are considerably more expensive. > > Can anyone tell me more about both these servers, how good is the BSDi > machine (and the organization), does FreeBSD install on the Dell and so on? I've bought two 1U boxes from BSDi and am so far very pleased with them. They are very noisy, but who cares about? :) At least they've got a couple of additional cooling-fans, which is quite nice. The only thing I'd like to comment about them is that BSDi SO INCREDIBLY FSCKING slow to deliver the boxes to us... we're still waiting for three more servers I ordered ages ago. I live in Norway, so the orders are handled by the Swedish office, so if you live in the States you may not have the same problems. Since they can deliver 1U boxes with everything from Celeron CPUs and IDE disks to dual PIII with SCSI disks they can be used for alot different tasks. -- Morten A. Middelthon Freenix Norge http://www.freenix.no/ -- "For every complex question, there is a simple answer-- and it's wrong." -- H.L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 1: 9: 6 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 01:09:03 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [213.188.21.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DD537B404 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from morten@localhost) by freenix.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01370 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:08:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from morten) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:08:59 +0100 From: "Morten A . Middelthon" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Vinum or hardware fault? Message-ID: <20001214100859.C466@freenix.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-Warning: So cunning you could brush your teeth with it. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using vinum to set up a striped plex with three 9GB scsi disks: da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device I'm not using soft-updates here. The SCSI controller is integrated on an Asus P2B-DS mainboard: ahc0: port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xe1000000-0xe1000fff irq 10 at device 6.0 on pci0 aic7890/91: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs da0 and da1 are not using vinum. Other than that the box has got two Pentium III 500MHz CPUs, 512MB of ram and is running FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE. The vinum plex had been running for a week or two, and the activity was reasonably low. But then my server froze and I got these error-messages: Dec 12 12:35:05 enterprise /kernel: ahc0:A:4: parity error detected in Message-in phase. SEQADDR(0x171) SCSIRATE(0x0) (several of these) Dec 12 12:35:05 enterprise /kernel: ahc0: Unexpected busfree in Message-out phase Dec 12 12:35:05 enterprise /kernel: SEQADDR == 0x170 To me this looks like there's something wrong the fifth and last disk (ahc0:A:4). I had to reboot the box, but upon reboot fsck didn't complain about anything out of the ordinary, and I was able remount the vinum plex. Can anyone tell me if this is vinum's or the hardware's fault? -- Morten A. Middelthon Freenix Norge http://www.freenix.no/ -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, 'cuz, like, you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 1:15:10 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 01:15:08 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genius.tao.org.uk (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D73737B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by genius.tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id C97229B38; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:15:17 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:15:17 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: "Morten A . Middelthon" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum or hardware fault? Message-ID: <20001214091517.E4186@bsdi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , "Morten A . Middelthon" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001214100859.C466@freenix.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001214100859.C466@freenix.no>; from morten@freenix.no on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 10:08:59AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 10:08:59AM +0100, Morten A . Middelthon wrote: > > > Dec 12 12:35:05 enterprise /kernel: ahc0:A:4: parity error detected in Message-in phase. SEQADDR(0x171) SCSIRATE(0x0) > (several of these) > Dec 12 12:35:05 enterprise /kernel: ahc0: Unexpected busfree in Message-out phase > Dec 12 12:35:05 enterprise /kernel: SEQADDR == 0x170 > > To me this looks like there's something wrong the fifth and last disk (ahc0:A:4). > I had to reboot the box, but upon reboot fsck didn't > complain about anything out of the ordinary, and I was able remount the vinum > plex. Can anyone tell me if this is vinum's or the hardware's fault? As ahc is complaining I can't see how it could be vinum (which sits on top of ahc, not below). How old is the disk? Joe -- Josef Karthauser [joe@FreeBSD.org, joe@tao.org.uk] ......... FreeBSD: The power to change the world ........ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 1:17:22 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 01:17:19 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [213.188.21.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840BD37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:17:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from morten@localhost) by freenix.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01434; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:17:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from morten) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:17:16 +0100 From: "Morten A . Middelthon" To: Josef Karthauser , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum or hardware fault? Message-ID: <20001214101716.D466@freenix.no> References: <20001214100859.C466@freenix.no> <20001214091517.E4186@bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001214091517.E4186@bsdi.com>; from joe@tao.org.uk on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 09:15:17AM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-Warning: So cunning you could brush your teeth with it. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 09:15:17AM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > As ahc is complaining I can't see how it could be vinum (which sits > on top of ahc, not below). > > How old is the disk? About 1 year old. -- Morten A. Middelthon Freenix Norge http://www.freenix.no/ -- If you cannot convince them, confuse them. -- Harry S Truman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 1:22:47 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 01:22:46 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genius.tao.org.uk (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE7B37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by genius.tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 605F59B38; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:23:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:23:01 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: "Morten A . Middelthon" Cc: Josef Karthauser , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum or hardware fault? Message-ID: <20001214092301.H4186@bsdi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , "Morten A . Middelthon" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001214100859.C466@freenix.no> <20001214091517.E4186@bsdi.com> <20001214101716.D466@freenix.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001214101716.D466@freenix.no>; from morten@freenix.no on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 10:17:16AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 10:17:16AM +0100, Morten A . Middelthon wrote: > On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 09:15:17AM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > As ahc is complaining I can't see how it could be vinum (which sits > > on top of ahc, not below). > > > > How old is the disk? > > About 1 year old. You may be in luck if it's still under warranty. Joe -- Josef Karthauser [joe@FreeBSD.org, joe@tao.org.uk] ......... FreeBSD: The power to change the world ........ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 1:41:54 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 01:41:51 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B5537B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 676CB6AB68; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:11:47 +1030 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:11:47 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: "Morten A . Middelthon" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum or hardware fault? Message-ID: <20001214201147.K84354@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20001214100859.C466@freenix.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001214100859.C466@freenix.no>; from morten@freenix.no on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 10:08:59AM +0100 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 14 December 2000 at 10:08:59 +0100, Morten A . Middelthon wrote: > > I'm using vinum to set up a striped plex with three 9GB scsi disks: > > da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > > I'm not using soft-updates here. > > The SCSI controller is integrated on an Asus P2B-DS mainboard: > > ahc0: port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem > 0xe1000000-0xe1000fff irq 10 at device 6.0 on pci0 > aic7890/91: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs > > da0 and da1 are not using vinum. > > Other than that the box has got two Pentium III 500MHz CPUs, 512MB of ram and > is running FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE. > > The vinum plex had been running for a week or two, and the activity was > reasonably low. But then my server froze and I got these error-messages: > > Dec 12 12:35:05 enterprise /kernel: ahc0:A:4: parity error detected in Message-in phase. SEQADDR(0x171) SCSIRATE(0x0) > (several of these) > Dec 12 12:35:05 enterprise /kernel: ahc0: Unexpected busfree in Message-out phase > Dec 12 12:35:05 enterprise /kernel: SEQADDR == 0x170 > > To me this looks like there's something wrong the fifth and last disk (ahc0:A:4). > I had to reboot the box, but upon reboot fsck didn't > complain about anything out of the ordinary, and I was able remount the vinum > plex. Can anyone tell me if this is vinum's or the hardware's fault? This is certainly a hardware fault. Software can't generate parity errors on the SCSI bus. The question is what component has failed; it could be just about anything on the bus, including the cable and the terminators. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 2:48:56 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 02:48:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493EF37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 02:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from sexta.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.16.13] ident=danny) by cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 146VwF-00043D-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:48:39 +0200 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-0.24 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make install Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:48:39 +0200 From: Danny Braniss Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i just tried to install a newly compiled kernel by: cd /sys/compile/LAA make NOMAN=1 DESTDIR=/home/root install and it tried to install some programs in /usr/... (joy, linux, etc) since /home/root only has the / (no /usr), is there some magic to prevent make to install these? danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 3: 4:21 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 03:04:18 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apotheosis.org.za (apotheosis.org.za [137.158.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B5137B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:04:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:59:37 +0200 From: Matthew West To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: andrew@ugh.net.au, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How come accounting limits of login.conf still doesn't work?! Message-ID: <20001214125937.A94432@apotheosis.org.za> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from "Alexey Dokuchaev" on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 12:05:47PM Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 12:05:47PM +0600, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > Things like idletime would probably require a daemon to be > > running. I started to write one a while ago. If you are intereste > > dI can look it out...and maybe even finish it. > That would be great!.. Still, it seems kinda weird that several > quite important features are documented, but do not produce even a > bit of functionality. Are there any good chances that (your?) > daemon would be ever included in main source tree? Although it's not in the main source tree, have you taken a look at "idled"? Port: idled-1.16_1 Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/idled Info: A daemon that logs out idle users and those users hogging resources Maint: andrew@ugh.net.au Index: sysutils B-deps: R-deps: -- mwest@uct.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 3:17:55 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 03:17:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [213.188.21.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC67437B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:17:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from morten@localhost) by freenix.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02064; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:17:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from morten) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:17:35 +0100 From: "Morten A . Middelthon" To: Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum or hardware fault? Message-ID: <20001214121735.E466@freenix.no> References: <20001214100859.C466@freenix.no> <20001214201147.K84354@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001214201147.K84354@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 08:11:47PM +1030 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-Warning: So cunning you could brush your teeth with it. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 08:11:47PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > > This is certainly a hardware fault. Software can't generate parity > errors on the SCSI bus. The question is what component has failed; it > could be just about anything on the bus, including the cable and the > terminators. I've changed the cable and checked the termination, so now I'll just run it through some testing and see if the error reoccurs. -- Morten A. Middelthon Freenix Norge http://www.freenix.no/ -- File names are infinite in length where infinity is set to 255 characters. -- Peter Collinson, "The Unix File System" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 6:26:53 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 06:26:42 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.alcove.fr (smtp.alcove.fr [212.155.209.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CC337B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:26:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from wiliam.alcove-int ([10.16.110.19]) by smtp.alcove.fr with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 146ZLB-0005Ri-00 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:26:37 +0100 Received: from nsouch by wiliam.alcove-int with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 146ZLA-0004Vl-00 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:26:36 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:26:35 +0100 From: Nicolas Souchu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Parallel ZIP patch for better mode detection Message-ID: <20001214152635.B16808@wiliam.alcove-int> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alc=F4ve=2C_http:=2F=2Fwww=2Ealcove=2Efr?= Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Here is a patch against -stable /sys/dev/ppbus for better ZIP/ZIP+ mode detection. I've tested ZIP, but don't have any ZIP+ :( Could some of you approve vpo and imm drivers for me? Nicholas PS: I'm not subscribed to the -stable list :( -- Nicolas.Souchu@alcove.fr Alcôve - Open Source Software Engineer - http://www.alcove.fr --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vpo-stable.diffs" Index: immio.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/ppbus/immio.c,v retrieving revision 1.10.2.1 diff -r1.10.2.1 immio.c 376,377c376,377 < /* we already have the bus, just connect */ < imm_connect(vpo, PPB_DONTWAIT, &error, 0); --- > vpo->vpo_mode_found = VP0_MODE_UNDEFINED; > error = 1; 378a379,384 > /* try to enter EPP mode since vpoio failure put the bus in NIBBLE */ > if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_EPP) != -1) { > imm_connect(vpo, PPB_DONTWAIT, &error, 0); > } > > /* if connection failed try PS/2 then NIBBLE modes */ 380,383c386,403 < if (bootverbose) < printf("imm%d: can't connect to the drive\n", < vpo->vpo_unit); < goto error; --- > if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_PS2) != -1) { > imm_connect(vpo, PPB_DONTWAIT, &error, 0); > } > if (error) { > if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_NIBBLE) != -1) { > imm_connect(vpo, PPB_DONTWAIT, &error, 0); > if (error) > goto error; > vpo->vpo_mode_found = VP0_MODE_NIBBLE; > } else { > printf("imm%d: NIBBLE mode unavailable!\n", vpo->vpo_unit); > goto error; > } > } else { > vpo->vpo_mode_found = VP0_MODE_PS2; > } > } else { > vpo->vpo_mode_found = VP0_MODE_EPP; 558d577 < int epp; 580,589c599,606 < /* enter NIBBLE mode to configure submsq */ < if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_NIBBLE) != -1) { < < ppb_MS_GET_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, vpo->vpo_nibble_inbyte_msq); < ppb_MS_PUT_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, spp_outbyte_submicroseq); < } < < /* enter PS2 mode to configure submsq */ < if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_PS2) != -1) { < --- > /* ppbus automatically restore the last mode entered during detection */ > switch (vpo->vpo_mode_found) { > case VP0_MODE_EPP: > ppb_MS_GET_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, epp17_instr); > ppb_MS_PUT_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, epp17_outstr); > printf("imm%d: EPP mode\n", vpo->vpo_unit); > break; > case VP0_MODE_PS2: 592,624d608 < } < < epp = ppb_get_epp_protocol(ppbus); < < /* enter EPP mode to configure submsq */ < if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_EPP) != -1) { < < switch (epp) { < case EPP_1_9: < case EPP_1_7: < ppb_MS_GET_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, epp17_instr); < ppb_MS_PUT_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, epp17_outstr); < break; < default: < panic("%s: unknown EPP protocol (0x%x)", __FUNCTION__, < epp); < } < } < < /* try to enter EPP or PS/2 mode, NIBBLE otherwise */ < if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_EPP) != -1) { < switch (epp) { < case EPP_1_9: < printf("imm%d: EPP 1.9 mode\n", vpo->vpo_unit); < break; < case EPP_1_7: < printf("imm%d: EPP 1.7 mode\n", vpo->vpo_unit); < break; < default: < panic("%s: unknown EPP protocol (0x%x)", __FUNCTION__, < epp); < } < } else if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_PS2) != -1) 626,627c610,613 < < else if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_NIBBLE) != -1) --- > break; > case VP0_MODE_NIBBLE: > ppb_MS_GET_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, vpo->vpo_nibble_inbyte_msq); > ppb_MS_PUT_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, spp_outbyte_submicroseq); 629,637c615,617 < < else { < printf("imm%d: can't enter NIBBLE, PS2 or EPP mode\n", < vpo->vpo_unit); < < ppb_release_bus(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev); < < free(vpo->vpo_nibble_inbyte_msq, M_DEVBUF); < return (ENXIO); --- > break; > default: > panic("imm: unknown mode %d", vpo->vpo_mode_found); Index: vpoio.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/ppbus/vpoio.c,v retrieving revision 1.10.2.1 diff -r1.10.2.1 vpoio.c 2a3 > * Copyright (c) 2000 Alcove - Nicolas Souchu 366a368 > /* Force disconnection */ 369c371,374 < if (PPB_IN_EPP_MODE(ppbus)) --- > /* Try to enter EPP mode, then connect to the drive in EPP mode */ > if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_EPP) != -1) { > /* call manually the microseq instead of using the appropriate function > * since we already requested the ppbus */ 371,375c376 < else < ppb_MS_microseq(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, connect_spp_microseq, &ret); < < ppb_MS_microseq(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, in_disk_mode, &ret); < if (!ret) { --- > } 377,379c378,386 < /* try spp mode (maybe twice or because previous mode was PS2) < * NIBBLE mode will be restored on next transfers if detection < * succeed --- > /* If EPP mode switch failed or ZIP connection in EPP mode failed, > * try to connect in NIBBLE mode */ > if (!vpoio_in_disk_mode(vpo)) { > > /* The interface must be at least PS/2 or NIBBLE capable. > * There is no way to know if the ZIP will work with > * PS/2 mode since PS/2 and SPP both use the same connect > * sequence. One must supress PS/2 with boot flags if > * PS/2 mode fails (see ppc(4)). 381,382c388,395 < ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_NIBBLE); < ppb_MS_microseq(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, connect_spp_microseq, &ret); --- > if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_PS2) != -1) { > vpo->vpo_mode_found = VP0_MODE_PS2; > } else { > if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_NIBBLE) == -1) > goto error; > > vpo->vpo_mode_found = VP0_MODE_NIBBLE; > } 384,385c397,400 < ppb_MS_microseq(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, in_disk_mode, &ret); < if (!ret) { --- > /* Can't know if the interface is capable of PS/2 yet */ > ppb_MS_microseq(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, connect_spp_microseq, &ret); > if (!vpoio_in_disk_mode(vpo)) { > vpo->vpo_mode_found = VP0_MODE_UNDEFINED; 394a410,411 > } else { > vpo->vpo_mode_found = VP0_MODE_EPP; 404,406c421 < < ppb_MS_microseq(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, in_disk_mode, &ret); < if (ret) { --- > if (vpoio_in_disk_mode(vpo)) { 433,454d447 < #if 0 < /* XXX EPP 1.9 not implemented with microsequences */ < else { < < ppb_reset_epp_timeout(ppbus); < ppb_wctr(ppbus, H_AUTO | H_SELIN | H_INIT | H_STROBE); < < if (((long) buffer | size) & 0x03) < ppb_outsb_epp(ppbus, < buffer, size); < else < ppb_outsl_epp(ppbus, < buffer, size/4); < < if ((ppb_rstr(ppbus) & TIMEOUT)) { < error = VP0_EPPDATA_TIMEOUT; < goto error; < } < < ppb_wctr(ppbus, H_AUTO | H_nSELIN | H_INIT | H_STROBE); < } < #endif 472,495d464 < #if 0 < /* XXX EPP 1.9 not implemented with microsequences */ < else { < < ppb_reset_epp_timeout(ppbus); < ppb_wctr(ppbus, PCD | < H_AUTO | H_SELIN | H_INIT | H_STROBE); < < if (((long) buffer | size) & 0x03) < ppb_insb_epp(ppbus, < buffer, size); < else < ppb_insl_epp(ppbus, < buffer, size/4); < < if ((ppb_rstr(ppbus) & TIMEOUT)) { < error = VP0_EPPDATA_TIMEOUT; < goto error; < } < < ppb_wctr(ppbus, PCD | < H_AUTO | H_nSELIN | H_INIT | H_STROBE); < } < #endif 618c587 < int epp; --- > int error = 0; 635,646c604,605 < ppb_request_bus(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, PPB_WAIT); < < /* enter NIBBLE mode to configure submsq */ < if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_NIBBLE) != -1) { < < ppb_MS_GET_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, vpo->vpo_nibble_inbyte_msq); < < ppb_MS_PUT_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, spp_outbyte_submicroseq); < } < < /* enter PS2 mode to configure submsq */ < if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_PS2) != -1) { --- > if ((error = ppb_request_bus(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, PPB_WAIT))) > goto error; 647a607,614 > /* ppbus sets automatically the last mode entered during detection */ > switch (vpo->vpo_mode_found) { > case VP0_MODE_EPP: > ppb_MS_GET_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, epp17_instr_body); > ppb_MS_PUT_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, epp17_outstr_body); > printf("vpo%d: EPP mode\n", vpo->vpo_unit); > break; > case VP0_MODE_PS2: 649d615 < 651,685d616 < } < < epp = ppb_get_epp_protocol(ppbus); < < /* enter EPP mode to configure submsq */ < if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_EPP) != -1) { < < switch (epp) { < case EPP_1_9: < /* XXX EPP 1.9 support should be improved */ < case EPP_1_7: < ppb_MS_GET_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, epp17_instr_body); < < ppb_MS_PUT_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, epp17_outstr_body); < break; < default: < panic("%s: unknown EPP protocol (0x%x)", __FUNCTION__, < epp); < } < } < < /* try to enter EPP or PS/2 mode, NIBBLE otherwise */ < if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_EPP) != -1) { < switch (epp) { < case EPP_1_9: < printf("vpo%d: EPP 1.9 mode\n", vpo->vpo_unit); < break; < case EPP_1_7: < printf("vpo%d: EPP 1.7 mode\n", vpo->vpo_unit); < break; < default: < panic("%s: unknown EPP protocol (0x%x)", __FUNCTION__, < epp); < } < } else if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_PS2) != -1) 687,688c618,621 < < else if (ppb_set_mode(ppbus, PPB_NIBBLE) != -1) --- > break; > case VP0_MODE_NIBBLE: > ppb_MS_GET_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, vpo->vpo_nibble_inbyte_msq); > ppb_MS_PUT_init(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev, spp_outbyte_submicroseq); 690,698c623,625 < < else { < printf("vpo%d: can't enter NIBBLE, PS2 or EPP mode\n", < vpo->vpo_unit); < < ppb_release_bus(ppbus, vpo->vpo_dev); < < free(vpo->vpo_nibble_inbyte_msq, M_DEVBUF); < return (ENXIO); --- > break; > default: > panic("vpo: unknown mode %d", vpo->vpo_mode_found); 703c630,631 < return (0); --- > error: > return (error); Index: vpoio.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/ppbus/vpoio.h,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -r1.4 vpoio.h 61a62,67 > /* Mode found during initialisation */ > #define VP0_MODE_UNDEFINED 0x0 > #define VP0_MODE_NIBBLE 0x1 > #define VP0_MODE_PS2 0x2 > #define VP0_MODE_EPP 0x3 > 63a70 > int vpo_mode_found; /* Mode found during init */ --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 7:36:22 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 07:36:17 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from css-1.cs.iastate.edu (css-1.cs.iastate.edu [129.186.3.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FA137B400; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:36:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from popeye.cs.iastate.edu (ghelmer@popeye.cs.iastate.edu [129.186.3.4]) by css-1.cs.iastate.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA10447; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:36:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (ghelmer@localhost) by popeye.cs.iastate.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA29898; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:36:14 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: popeye.cs.iastate.edu: ghelmer owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:36:14 -0600 (CST) From: Guy Helmer To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How come accounting limits of login.conf still doesn't work?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Guy Helmer wrote: > > > On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > > > There've been a nasty situation for quite a long time already with > > > various accounting limits of login.conf... > > > > > > How come that all kewl features, such as sessionlimits, idletimes, etc all > > > are documented in man login.conf(5), but never seemed to work? It's 4.2 > > > already, and it still doesn't make any difference? > > > > The problem is that no process hangs around after a login to enforce these > > limits. > > > > I have some dusty code that enforces time limits that I've been thinking > > about improving (to handle all the "kewl" features you mention) and > > bringing into (or invoking from) login(1). It would mean an extra process > > hanging around for each login, but processes are cheap :-) > > So, is your code in usable stage and available as a patch? Do you have > any plans committing into main source tree? Sorry, it is not available yet. My code was part of a dialup server that limited time online (I was a BOFH in a previous life :-). I'll have to unearth the code from an old CD and figure out how to generalize it for login.conf(5) limits. I'm thinking of making the code into a PAM module so that it would work with access methods that don't invoke login(1) (e.g., sshd). Guy Guy Helmer, Ph.D. Sr. Software Engineer, Palisade Systems --- ghelmer@palisadesys.com Research Assistant, Dept. of Computer Science --- ghelmer@cs.iastate.edu http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~ghelmer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 9: 7:35 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 09:07:33 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsdhome.dyndns.org (unknown [24.25.2.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27FF37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:07:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from vger.bsdhome.com (vger [192.168.220.2]) by bsdhome.dyndns.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBEH7Et13406; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:07:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bsd@bsdhome.com) Received: (from bsd@localhost) by vger.bsdhome.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBEH74q70986; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:07:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bsd) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:07:04 -0500 From: Brian Dean To: Andrey Lakhno Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel panics Message-ID: <20001214120704.A70810@vger.bsdhome.com> References: <20001213122916.A15772@dnepr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001213122916.A15772@dnepr.net>; from land@dnepr.net on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 12:29:16PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 12:29:16PM +0200, Andrey Lakhno wrote: > > I have FreeBSD 4.x-STABLE box. > Hardware configuration: motherboard Intel D815EEA (i815 chipset) with > integrated Intel EtherExpress Pro/100+, CPU Celeron 500MHz, RAM 128Mb, > HDD IDE Seagate Baracuda ST320420A. > > It randomly crashes. Kernel panics with following diagnostics: > > Fatal trap 10: trace trap while in kernel mode When was the last time you've updated your sources and rebuilt? What is the version of the following files: /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c What is the output of uname -a? Thanks, -Brian -- Brian Dean bsd@FreeBSD.org bsd@bsdhome.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 9:26:28 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 09:26:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.state.me.us (mailhub.state.me.us [141.114.122.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C9237B402 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:26:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from katahdin.bmv.state.me.us by mailhub.state.me.us with ESMTP for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:57:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (darren@localhost) by katahdin.bmv.state.me.us (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id MAA35032 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:04:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:04:59 -0500 (EST) From: Darren Henderson To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: securelevel and /etc/rc in 4.2S In-Reply-To: <20001214152635.B16808@wiliam.alcove-int> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darren@katahdin.bmv.state.me.us Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have some (probably misplaced) confussion with the order things are handled in... /etc/rc executes /etc/rc.sysctrl (which pulls in /etc/sysctl.conf), there is a comment that says that we want to set the sysctl variables as soon as we can" which makes sense. Quite a bit later, at the end of /etc/rc, we check to see if kern_securelevel_enable has been enabled and if kern_securelevel -ge 0 then set it accordingly. /etc/defaults/rc.conf sets kern_securelevel_enabled to "NO" and kern_securelevel to -1. man init tells us that if securelevel is initially non-zero its left alone otherwise it is raised to 1 before going multiuser. As I recall, after an install an /etc/rc.conf is present that sets kern_securelevel_enabled to "YES" and kern_securelevel to 1. Now my confussion... Shouldn't rc.sysctl be using the rc.conf kern_securelevel* settings instead of waiting to set those at the end of rc? I think I can see where there might be some conflicts if someone wants to run at 3 (unable to set firewall rules etc) as the network configuration takes place after rc.sysctl. But that could be accomedated in rc.sysctl (if 3 wanted then don't set or set to 2) and rc.firewall (if 3 wanted set it after the rules have been read). Also, wouldn't it make more sense for /etc/defaults/rc.conf to at least set "YES" and 0? ________________________________________________________________________ Darren Henderson darren@bmv.state.me.us darren.henderson@state.me.us To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 9:43:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 09:43:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE66237B400; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:43:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 14 Dec 2000 17:43:39 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:43:36 +0000 From: David Malone To: Andre Oppermann Cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Mike Tancsa , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su root hangs when logged in via SSH Message-ID: <20001214174336.A54984@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <5.0.1.4.1.20001213153948.01fc9df0@marble.sentex.ca> <3A37E70C.3A935224@telehouse.ch> <200012132153.eBDLrn576602@whizzo.transsys.com> <3A380189.9B95A212@telehouse.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A380189.9B95A212@telehouse.ch>; from oppermann@telehouse.ch on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 12:08:57AM +0100 Sender: dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think there is a PR in the database, assigned to me, relating to this. I guess I could go through syslogd and try to make all the IO non-blocking, but I'm not sure how easy that would be. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 10:23: 1 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 10:22:59 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (ftp.golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A1337B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AH9370.63.d1acf55c) with ESMTP id vfisaaaa for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 05:29:38 +1100 Message-ID: <3A390FFF.CD3370E6@quake.com.au> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 05:22:55 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: new kernel build method? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hiyas, Just hoping I can get something clarified.. I saw in a post to this list a few days back about how were not *supposed* to compile kernels using the old method in the latest stable, at least I think it was this list... But what is the old method? Is the old method doing: cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf /usr/bin/config KERNEL-NAME cd ../../compile/KERNEL-NAME make dep make make install Are we meant to be doing it from /usr/src using: make buildkernel KERNEL=KERNEL-NAME make installkernel KERNEL=KERNEL-NAME Or a totally different way, that post has got me totally confused now :( I thought that was just for upgrading since the new world hadn't installed yet using the other way wouldn't work... Thanks... Kal. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 10:29:44 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 10:29:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.tdb.uu.se (mail2.tdb.uu.se [130.238.18.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EAE37B402 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from rackarberget.uu.se (rackarberget.it.uu.se [130.238.18.38]) by mail2.tdb.uu.se (8.8.8/8.8.8/STUD_1.1) with ESMTP id TAA04261 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:29:20 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ertr1013@localhost) by rackarberget.uu.se (8.9.1b+Sun/8.8.8/STUD_NULL_1.1) id TAA15415 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:28:29 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:28:29 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: new kernel build method? Message-ID: <20001214192829.A15271@student.uu.se> References: <3A390FFF.CD3370E6@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A390FFF.CD3370E6@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 05:22:55AM +1100 Sender: ertr1013@mail2.tdb.uu.se Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 05:22:55AM +1100, Kal Torak wrote: > Hiyas, > > Just hoping I can get something clarified.. > I saw in a post to this list a few days back about how were not > *supposed* to compile kernels using the old method in the latest > stable, at least I think it was this list... > > But what is the old method? Is the old method doing: > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > /usr/bin/config KERNEL-NAME > cd ../../compile/KERNEL-NAME > make dep > make > make install > Yes, that is the "old" method. (Except it is "make depend" not "make dep".) > Are we meant to be doing it from /usr/src using: > make buildkernel KERNEL=KERNEL-NAME > make installkernel KERNEL=KERNEL-NAME > Yes, but note that this only works if you have done a "make buildworld" first. > Or a totally different way, that post has got me totally confused > now :( > I thought that was just for upgrading since the new world hadn't > installed yet using the other way wouldn't work... > The "old" version should still work fine if the source you are building from is the same as the world you are currently running was built with. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 10:32:37 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 10:32:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FF037B402 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:32:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.33 2000/11/21 19:27:27 smothers Exp $) with ESMTP id SAA13405; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:36:03 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.11 2000/12/08 18:51:21 jdecello Exp $) with ESMTP id LAA29241; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:32:24 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id NAA25544; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:32:25 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14905.4664.402238.506143@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:32:24 -0700 (MST) To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: new kernel build method? In-Reply-To: <3A390FFF.CD3370E6@quake.com.au> References: <3A390FFF.CD3370E6@quake.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Friday, December 15, Kal Torak wrote: ] > Hiyas, > > Are we meant to be doing it from /usr/src using: > make buildkernel KERNEL=KERNEL-NAME > make installkernel KERNEL=KERNEL-NAME I think the jist of the posts would boil down to the following: 1) Use the buildkernel/installkernel targets (after doing a buildworld) if you regularly CVSup and build/install the world. These targets are supposed to work-around problems when the installed tool chain would have problems compiling newer sources (say binutils changes or other things people would be quick to point out). In instances where the "old way" would fail, these targets will succeed. 2) -IFF- you Know What You're Doing(tm), then you can get away with doing it the "old way" providing that your sources have not changed. For instance, just weeks ago I got some EtherExpress cards in. I edited my kernel config to add the 'fxp' driver and recompile a kernel the "old way" with no problems. But, I hadn't CVSup'ed or installed world on that machine for months. I'd stick with the new targets to deal with kernels. If you use the "old method" just make sure you use the targets before asking for help on the lists, as the new targets are the only "supported" (notice the quotes) methods. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 10:59:57 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 10:59:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from eye.micron.net (unknown [204.229.122.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9823F37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:59:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from 10.224.0.220 ([10.224.0.220]) by eye.micron.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with SMTP id G5KNFO00.V1L; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:59:48 -0700 Received: from loverso.southborough.ma.us (1Cust53.tnt1.framingham.ma.da.uu.net [63.24.211.53]) by with SMTP (MailShield v1.5); Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:59:47 -0700 Received: from loverso.southborough.ma.us (localhost.loverso.southborough.ma.us [127.0.0.1]) by loverso.southborough.ma.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA47483; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:59:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from loverso@loverso.southborough.ma.us) Message-Id: <200012141859.NAA47483@loverso.southborough.ma.us> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Erik Trulsson Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: new kernel build method? In-reply-to: Message from Erik Trulsson <20001214192829.A15271@student.uu.se> . X-Face: "UZ!}1W2N?eJdN(`1%|/OOPqJ).Idk?UyvWw'W-%`Gto8^IkEm>.g1O$[.;~}8E=Ire0|lO .o>:NlJS1@vO9bVmswRoq3j DdX9YGSeJ5a(mfX[1u>Z63G5_^+'8LVqjqvn X-Url: http://surf.to/loverso Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:59:44 -0500 From: John Robert LoVerso X-SMTP-HELO: loverso.southborough.ma.us X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: john@loverso.southborough.ma.us X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 1Cust53.tnt1.framingham.ma.da.uu.net [63.24.211.53] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > make buildkernel KERNEL=KERNEL-NAME > > make installkernel KERNEL=KERNEL-NAME > Yes, but note that this only works if you have done a "make buildworld" first. This kludge allows you to buildkernel without a buildworld. It is most definitely not something someone should have if they with to build releases, however. --- Makefile.inc1.orig Wed Oct 4 10:44:52 2000 +++ Makefile.inc1 Tue Oct 3 13:27:39 2000 @@ -170 +170 @@ - OBJFORMAT_PATH=${WORLDTMP}/usr/libexec \ + OBJFORMAT_PATH=${WORLDTMP}/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec \ John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 11:35:34 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 11:35:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com (sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com [192.215.234.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 039F737B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:35:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29456 invoked by uid 1078); 14 Dec 2000 19:35:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Dec 2000 19:35:41 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:35:41 -0800 (PST) From: Gordon Tetlow X-Sender: gordont@sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com To: Darren Henderson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: securelevel and /etc/rc in 4.2S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Darren Henderson wrote: [snip] > Now my confussion... > > Shouldn't rc.sysctl be using the rc.conf kern_securelevel* settings instead > of waiting to set those at the end of rc? I think I can see where there > might be some conflicts if someone wants to run at 3 (unable to set firewall > rules etc) as the network configuration takes place after rc.sysctl. But > that could be accomedated in rc.sysctl (if 3 wanted then don't set or set to > 2) and rc.firewall (if 3 wanted set it after the rules have been read). I think the idea is that everything in /etc/rc* has free reign over the box (as it should) to configure everything and once the bootup is complete, we lock everything down tight. > Also, wouldn't it make more sense for /etc/defaults/rc.conf to at least set > "YES" and 0? Unless I'm missing something, "YES" and 0 is the same as "NO" and -1. -gordon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 12: 5: 9 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 12:05:07 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A4A37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [208.184.13.195]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1366C9CA for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:05:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [208.184.13.196]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7AF2E454 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:05:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBEK56V36939; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:05:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14905.10226.153592.553949@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:05:06 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: securelevel and /etc/rc in 4.2S In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "GT" == Gordon Tetlow writes: GT> Unless I'm missing something, "YES" and 0 is the same as "NO" and -1. except the next time you go single user and back to multi-user, you'll get securelevel 1 with the former, and remain at -1 with the latter. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 12: 8: 6 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 12:08:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.state.me.us (mailhub.state.me.us [141.114.122.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A0E37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from katahdin.bmv.state.me.us by mailhub.state.me.us with ESMTP; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:00:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (darren@localhost) by katahdin.bmv.state.me.us (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id PAA20162; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:07:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:07:25 -0500 (EST) From: Darren Henderson To: Gordon Tetlow Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: securelevel and /etc/rc in 4.2S In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darren@katahdin.bmv.state.me.us Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > > Also, wouldn't it make more sense for /etc/defaults/rc.conf to at least set > > "YES" and 0? > > Unless I'm missing something, "YES" and 0 is the same as "NO" and -1. > If I rely on the values in /etc/defaults/rc.conf ("NO" and -1) and boot one of the machines and then check sysctl it reports -1. I had assumed it would come up and go to level 0 at least in that case as you mention but in my installations it doesnt seem to be true. Part of what prompted me to write. Perhpas my installations are atypical for some reason or the value reported by sysctl is incorrect. An out of the blocks instillation should go to 0 or 1 I would think and if someone wants to run lower or higher they should do it by choice. I haven't looked but I'm assuming the values in /etc/rc.conf after the install are coming about as a result of the security prompt that occurs during the install, which is fine. Rereading man init I see that we dont go to multiuser until after rc completes so the placement question is rather moot. I'm unclear on init's statement regarding raising from 0 to 1 however, that must take place after rc finishes. Which rather implies to me that to run at 0 you have to do it after init completes (since it will raise 0 to 1, -1 won't be raised to 0 and you cant go from 1+ back to 0). This brings me back to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. Just seems like it would be a lot more reasonable to have the relevant values set to "YES" and 0 given the observed behavior with "NO" and -1 (ie running at -1). ________________________________________________________________________ Darren Henderson darren@bmv.state.me.us darren.henderson@state.me.us To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 12:12:22 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 12:12:19 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C7237B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:12:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [208.184.13.195]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C672C9CA; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:12:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [208.184.13.196]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BD52E443; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:12:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBEKCB225632; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:12:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14905.10651.337010.841105@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:12:11 -0500 To: Darren Henderson Cc: Gordon Tetlow , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: securelevel and /etc/rc in 4.2S In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "DH" == Darren Henderson writes: DH> I'm unclear on init's statement regarding raising from 0 to 1 DH> however, that must take place after rc finishes. Which rather DH> implies to me that to run at We had a big discussion about the man page a while back... It actually makes sense and describes the implementation correctly now. DH> This brings me back to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. Just seems like it DH> would be a lot more reasonable to have the relevant values set to DH> "YES" and 0 given the observed behavior with "NO" and -1 (ie DH> running at -1). But if you're running at securelevel >0, you cannot load kernel modules. This breaks stuff unless you pre-compile every feature you ever use into your kernel, or pre-load them at boot time. This is for things like vnconfig, etc., that load modules on demand. Personally, I run some machines at securelevel 2, and others at -1 just because of this. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 12:29:23 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 12:29:21 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556A937B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:29:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by lunatic.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7B27315551; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:29:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:29:19 -0800 From: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Buildworld Server Message-ID: <20001214122919.A52513@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 4.1.1-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waning Gibbous (84% of Full) X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: 3F11 DB43 F080 C037 96F0 F8D3 5BD2 652B 171C 86DB X-Uptime: 12:27PM up 46 days, 14:42, 1 user, load averages: 0.13, 0.11, 0.40 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Looking for the proper procedures for seting up and using a central server to buildowrld on and then to use as the server I use to installworld from on my other Slower machines. I have the NFS setup correctly it is just the order from where to start once the exports is done to the client machine. TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You mean Virtual Memory has to actually exist? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 12:32:48 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 12:32:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F158937B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:32:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [208.184.13.195]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB92C9CA; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [208.184.13.196]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7882E451; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:32:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBEKWhC25578; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:32:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14905.11883.609177.594611@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:32:43 -0500 To: Ron Rosson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld Server In-Reply-To: <20001214122919.A52513@lunatic.oneinsane.net> References: <20001214122919.A52513@lunatic.oneinsane.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "R" == Rosson writes: R> I have the NFS setup correctly it is just the order from where to start R> once the exports is done to the client machine. on the server, run make buildkernel KERNEL=whatever for the clients. on the client machine, either boot to single user and run /etc/netstart or shutdown to single user. now mount /usr/src from the remote box. mount /usr/obj from the remote box. cd /usr/src make installworld make installkernel KERNEL=whatever mergemaster reboot that should do it. make sure your boxes are connected on a fast link (ie ethernet) or your installworld will take forever ;-) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 13:10:30 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 13:10:25 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E6737B699 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBELAJs87763; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:10:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA50431; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:10:18 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200012142110.OAA50431@harmony.village.org> To: Kal Torak Subject: Re: new kernel build method? Cc: FreeBSD-stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Dec 2000 05:22:55 +1100." <3A390FFF.CD3370E6@quake.com.au> References: <3A390FFF.CD3370E6@quake.com.au> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:10:18 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: imp@harmony.village.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3A390FFF.CD3370E6@quake.com.au> Kal Torak writes: : But what is the old method? Is the old method doing: : cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf : /usr/bin/config KERNEL-NAME : cd ../../compile/KERNEL-NAME : make dep : make : make install : : Are we meant to be doing it from /usr/src using: : make buildkernel KERNEL=KERNEL-NAME : make installkernel KERNEL=KERNEL-NAME If you are upgrading from one version of FreeBSD to another (even on the same branch), you should be useing the new method. If you are building and rebuilding the kernel alot on the same version, then the old way is a little faster. The new method is guaranteed to work in the face of binutil/gcc changes, while the old way won't necessarily work in the face of these things things. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 14:24:42 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 14:24:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de [160.45.34.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB6B37B404 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [160.45.33.83]) by axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA28002 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:24:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thimm@localhost) by oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id XAA26581 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:24:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from pua.physik.fu-berlin.de (IDENT:root@thimm.dialup.fu-berlin.de [160.45.217.207]) by axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA28091; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:12:05 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thimm@localhost) by pua.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eBEM7v114182; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:07:57 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:07:56 +0100 From: Axel Thimm To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, "David E. Cross" , vladimir-bsd-current@math.uic.edu, Brad Knowles , Andrew Gallatin , Roman Shterenzon , "Scot W. Hetzel" , Greg Lewis , cam , Erik Trulsson , Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , Jaap Akkerhuis , Stephen Montgomery-Smith , Coleman Kane , Jeff Fisher , ragnar@sysabend.org, Doug@gorean.org, dillon@backplane.com, Andrew Gordon , andrew@ugh.net.au, Carsten Urbach , Tobias Burnus , Wolfram Klaus Subject: rpc.lockd and true NFS locks? Message-ID: <20001214230756.A13794@pua.domain> Reply-To: Axel Thimm , Carsten Urbach Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Lines: 117 Sender: thimm@oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear all, rpc.lockd in FreeBSD suffers from a pubic server's lazyness --- It says it's done the job, but never did anything besides talking... Searching through the lists gives different stories. Some say that NFS locking isn't really necessary, but what about locking critical situations like delivering mail over NFS to FreeBSD homes? Procmail & fcntl made our computing department especially unhappy, and we are wondering whether we can keep our migration strategy (moving our homes to backuped FreeBSD boxes). Some of the following quoted mails (consider this mail as a review, if you like) give hope that some people were working on this (without obviously having commited anything, as one can check in cvsweb). Is this true? Has anyone any server side patches for FreeBSD? Is he/she looking for guinea pigs? Anything is better than the current situation. Our users are running away from our otherwise very comfortable FreeBSD homes. :( On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 02:07:54PM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: > [...] > Besides, file locking becomes impossible in -STABLE once you've > mounted it with NFS (we don't have a working lockd, although work in this > area is progressing in -CURRENT), and NFS writes generally suck when > compared to local writes. > [...] On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 08:07:40PM -0400, David E. Cross wrote: > I apologize profusely for the delay of this, but lockd-0.2 is out. > The URL is: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd/FreeBSD/lockd-0.2.tar.gz > [...] > 5) this does not add the code to FreeBSD's kernel to request the NFS locks > (that is a job for people more skilled than I ;) > [...] On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 12:23:14AM -0400, David E. Cross wrote: > [...] > http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd/FreeBSD/lockd-0.2a.tar.gz > [...] On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 08:44:33PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > This might be a bit touchy, but I'm rather curious -- how will the BSDI > merger affect your lockd work? It seems like your work on lockd > (esp. client side & statd interoperation issues) could be speeded up if you > had access to the BSDI sources.. On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 12:38:51PM +0200, Roman Shterenzon wrote: > Quoting Andrew Gordon : > > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Roman Shterenzon wrote: > > > The rpc.lockd(8) is marked as broken in /etc/defaults/rc.conf in 4.1-R > > > My question is - how bad is it broken? > > The rpc.lockd in 4.x simply answers "Yes" to all locking requests, and > > does not maintain any state. This means that if your programs actually > > need locking, running rpc.lockd will cause problems (file corruption etc). > > > > On the other hand, if your programs don't need locking and are just making > > the locking calls for the hell of it, rpc.lockd will allow these programs > > to run rather than just hanging up. > > > > There was talk a few months ago about someone having implemented NFS > > locking properly, but I haven't heard any more since - check the mailing > > list archives. > > > > [I wrote the existing 'hack' implementation]. On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 09:28:36AM -0500, Scot W. Hetzel wrote: > From: "Roman Shterenzon" > > On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: > > > [...] Someone (from something.edu, perhaps rpi.edu) posted a URL to one > > > of the lists of a working but untested rpc.lockd. [...] I believe that Andrew means "David E. Cross" , but his citation some lines above show that he hadn't worked in that direction. > I kind of remember reading about it on the current mailing list. > Current-Users: Has a working rpc.lockd been imported into CURRENT. If it > has, is there a possibility of getting it MFC'd to STABLE. On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 11:02:25AM +0930, Greg Lewis wrote: > Look through the freebsd-hackers archive. There was an rpc.lockd > implementation announced there looking for testers about a month or so > before the 4.0 release. The person who wrote it is David Cross who is now a > FreeBSD committer I believe. > > Thats my recollection anyway. Unfortunately I haven't seen any recent > followups. At the time it was deemed too close to the 4.0 release. If you > do test it maybe you can prod David with the results and get it committed to > -current. On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 05:45:21PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 02:53:47PM +0100, cam wrote: > > I have to use rpc.lockd on my NFS server (FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE) and I've > > notice that it is broken with this line in /etc/defaults/rc.conf: > > 113: rpc_lockd_enable="NO" # Run NFS rpc.lockd (*broken!*) if nfs_server. > > You can't have looked that hard. This question did come up earlier this > year on -questions and it wasn't difficult to find the answer searching > through the list-archives. > > Anyway, the answer is that lockd is just a dummy implementation. When the > client requests a lock rpc.lockd will just say "A lock? Sure, here you have > one." without actually locking anything. > > The only reason for running this is when you have semi-broken clients > (usually DOS/Windows based) that insist on getting a lock even though they > don't really need it. Then lockd will make them work. This is not true, any true networked system might try to modify the same file, think of mail delivery agents and Mail readers. > ( I seem to remember somebody saying that there was work in progress > writing a fully functional lockd. Has anything materialized on that > front? (A quick check doesn't show anything in the repository.)) Thanks, Axel. -- Axel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 15:13:25 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 15:13:23 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42B237B400; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA121002; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:13:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20001214080622.A11433@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <20001214080622.A11433@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:13:01 -0500 To: Andreas Klemm , Ilya Martynov , gad@FreeBSD.ORG From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: printer spooldirs wrong owner ?? (was Re: Fixes for apsfilter-current-09.12.2000 (printing via smbclient) ) Cc: apsfilter-current@apsfilter.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Garrett Wollman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 8:06 AM +0100 12/14/00, Andreas Klemm wrote: >On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:35:51PM +0300, Ilya Martynov wrote: > > P.S. I forgot about another problem I meet while setting up > > printing. SETUP creates smbclient.conf that is not readble > > by lpd. For me it was created as: > > >> -rw------- 1 root daemon 156 Dec 12 16:41 smbclient.conf >> >> to make printing work I had to chmod g+r on it. > >I think this is an inconsistency in FreeBSD ... > >The filterscript (forked by llpd) runs under permissions >daemon.wheel, but the spooldirs in FreeBSD by default are >created with permissions root.daemon. > >I think this could easily be fixed, if you would > chown -R dameon.wheel /var/spool/lpd >and during apsfilter SETUP you should take care that owner >and group are now setup right to match daemon.wheel. > >[ Cc'd to freebsd-stable ] > >What do the lpd maintaining authorities in FreeBSD say ? I haven't thought about permissions enough to say I have a strong opinion on it, but my gut-level feeling is that the spool directories are created with the right owner+group (ie, root+daemon). What I don't understand here is what that has to do with smbclient.conf. Which is to say, I don't do any samba work, so I am not familiar with what creates that file, or why that file is root:daemon and permitted 600. If the reported problem is solved by changing the permission bits to 640, then why go with an alternate solution which chown's and chgrp's the entire directory? I don't know what Garrett thinks about the permissions, but I think I need to learn a little more before I have a good idea of what is the best way to solve this situation. (also I must apologize for being so quiet lately, but we have two new plotters here which are not working right, and I've been putting a lot of hours on those trying to isolate just exactly what is causing them to die... It has been very frustrating) -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 15:20:56 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 15:20:53 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from westhost15.westhost.net (westhost15.westhost.net [216.71.84.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9462937B402 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:20:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from beast (h0020af68b314.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.189.27]) by westhost15.westhost.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA15367 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:23:21 -0600 From: "Paul A. Howes" To: Subject: RE: Buildworld Server Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:19:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <14905.11883.609177.594611@onceler.kciLink.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have done this many times, and this is the correct way of handling a build-server. However, I'd like to clarify a couple of things: I like to permanently export the file systems used during builds. I just feel that it's easier this way. On the server, edit your /etc/exports file and add the following lines: /usr/src -alldirs -maproot=0 * /usr/obj -alldirs -maproot=0 * /usr/ports -alldirs -maproot=0 * You will need to restart the nfs server daemon after making this change, so the file systems are exported. The "-alldirs" options exports everything from the specified point, down, in the tree. The "-maproot=0" option allows you to mount the filesystems on the remote box as root, which makes installworld run more smoothly. The "*" specifies which hosts can connect, which in this case is all of them. If you want to limit it, just list out the IP addresses or hostnames of the clients you expect to connect with. The "/usr/ports" file system is only needed if you plan to rebuild ports this way. I do it all the time, and it makes life so much easier. On the client system(s) you will need to nfs-mount these file systems. You can either go to the command line and type: mount -t nfs server:/usr/src /usr/src mount -t nfs server:/usr/obj /usr/obj mount -t nfs server:/usr/ports /usr/ports ...or to do it permanently, edit /etc/fstab and add the following three lines: server:/usr/src /usr/src nfs rw 0 2 server:/usr/obj /usr/obj nfs rw 0 2 server:/usr/ports /usr/ports nfs rw 0 2 Now, on the server you can do: make buildworld make buildkernel KERNEL=client And on the client do: make installkernel make installworld mergemaster reboot I hope this helps! -- Paul A. Howes pahowes@fair-ware.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Vivek Khera Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 3:33 PM To: Ron Rosson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Buildworld Server >>>>> "R" == Rosson writes: R> I have the NFS setup correctly it is just the order from where to start R> once the exports is done to the client machine. on the server, run make buildkernel KERNEL=whatever for the clients. on the client machine, either boot to single user and run /etc/netstart or shutdown to single user. now mount /usr/src from the remote box. mount /usr/obj from the remote box. cd /usr/src make installworld make installkernel KERNEL=whatever mergemaster reboot that should do it. make sure your boxes are connected on a fast link (ie ethernet) or your installworld will take forever ;-) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 15:27:46 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 15:27:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (lsmls02.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A79337B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:27:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mediaone.net (we-24-130-94-77.we.mediaone.net [24.130.94.77]) by lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA09048 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:27:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A39566D.C585776C@mediaone.net> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:23:25 -0800 From: Eric M Logan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: STABLE Subject: problems w/ make world... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm currently using FreeBSD 4.2 and I cvsup'ed the latest sources this morning. Everytime I try doing a make buildworld && make installworld (in single user mode and regular), the whole thing crashes out w/ signal 11 errors. Any ideas why this might be? And before anyone suggests hardware problems let me say this. I've been able to make world many times before w/o and w/ problems. Sometimes I can make world w/o any errors what so ever. Other times, I have to try making the world several times until it completes successfully. I've also tried swapping out ram, drives, nics, motherboards and even CPUs so I really don't think it's that. Having said that, if anyone could suggest a solution, thanks in advance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 16:17:37 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 16:17:34 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D8B37B6B7 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:17:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by lunatic.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3D8AD15551; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:17:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:17:33 -0800 From: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: PPP not deleting ip's Message-ID: <20001214161733.A57811@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 4.1.1-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waning Gibbous (83% of Full) X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: 3F11 DB43 F080 C037 96F0 F8D3 5BD2 652B 171C 86DB X-Uptime: 4:10PM up 46 days, 18:25, 1 user, load averages: 1.00, 1.01, 1.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a FreeBSD box running 4.1-R running as a Gateway machine for a small LAN. It is using ijppp for the connection and all is working well.. I got to looking at it and noticed that everytime it disconnects it does not delete the IP address it was assigned to before. So when it connects the next time and gets a different IP it just adds it to tun0. Here is my config.. default: allow user * set server +3000 myadminpass set speed 115200 set timeout 600 set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\ dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" n2-mppp: # This is for multilink modem connection set device /dev/cuaa0 /dev/cuaa1 set phone 1111111 set authname myauthname set authkey myauthkey set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR enable dns set mrru 1500 clone 1,2 link * set mode auto Did I miss anything.. TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ An interesting statistic: 95.1%. That's about everyone. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 16:42:52 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 16:42:50 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wysoft.tzo.com (c481444-a.bremtn1.wa.home.com [24.12.235.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1DC37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wysoft@localhost) by wysoft.tzo.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBF0VeQ28702 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:31:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wysoft@wysoft.tzo.com) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:31:40 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Wyman To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: unsubscribe freebsd-stable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 17:56:18 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 17:56:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from knock.econ.vt.edu (knock.econ.vt.edu [128.173.172.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E7337B402 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rdmurphy@localhost) by knock.econ.vt.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBF1u2x00397; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:56:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rdmurphy) From: "Russell D. Murphy Jr." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14905.31282.523466.649499@knock.econ.vt.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:56:02 -0500 (EST) To: Stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Fatal trap 12? X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: rdmurphy@vt.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My machine has locked up solid and rebooted a few times lately; the most recent time I managed to get this from the console (copied by hand - I believe it's accurate, but no guarantees): ============================================================ (some information probably scrolled off the screen) QOUTFIFO entries: Sequencer Free SCB List: Pending list: (several lines of numbers) Kernel Free SCB list: 66 64 63 62 61 60 panic: for safety syncing disks. . . Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x30 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc01efafe stack pointer = 0x10:0xc029e2a4 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc029e2a8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor flags = interupt enabled, resume IOPL=0 current process = idle interupt mask = net bio cam trap number = 12 panic: page fault uptime: 5m11s (pause for -perhaps- 1 or 2 minutes) (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status==0x34, scsi status=0x0 (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): SYNCHRONIZE CACHE. CDB: 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): error code 1 ============================================================ Can anyone translate? Is one of my disks failing? If so, which one? The lockups do appear correlated with heavy disk activity. Below, I've included the current /var/run/dmesg.boot and kernel configuration files. These crashes have left no trace (that I can find) in any of the log files. I'm running Stable from last Friday: FreeBSD knock.econ.vt.edu 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Fri Dec 8 07:42:12 EST 2000 root@knock.econ.vt.edu:/disk1/obj/usr/src/sys/KNOCK i386 The machine is a Dell with an Adaptec 2940, one Quantum Viking hard drive, and one Fujitsu (external drive in Sun packaging) hard drive. Thanks for any light you can shed on this -- and guidance you can offer. Russ ============================================================ Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Fri Dec 8 07:42:12 EST 2000 root@knock.econ.vt.edu:/disk1/obj/usr/src/sys/KNOCK Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 397930877 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193133 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method Timecounter "TSC" frequency 397949138 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (397.95-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 268435456 (262144K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009ffff, 651264 bytes (159 pages) 0x0037a000 - 0x0fff7fff, 264757248 bytes (64638 pages) avail memory = 257970176 (251924K bytes) bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00ffe80 bios32: Entry = 0xffe90 (c00ffe90) Rev = 0 Len = 1 pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xcaee pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00fe2d0 pnpbios: Entry = f0000:e2f4 Rev = 1.0 Other BIOS signatures found: ACPI: 000fdf50 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0354000. VESA: information block 56 45 53 41 00 02 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 00 22 00 00 01 40 00 00 01 0b 01 00 01 21 01 00 01 2a 01 00 01 00 01 01 01 10 01 11 01 12 01 03 01 13 01 14 01 15 01 05 01 16 01 17 01 18 01 07 01 19 01 VESA: 3 mode(s) found VESA: v2.0, 4096k memory, flags:0x0, mode table:0xc02f8462 (1000022) VESA: ATI MACH64 VESA: ATI Technologies Inc. MACH64GT 01.00 Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80010014 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=71908086) npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x00000000 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=71908086) pcib0: on motherboard found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7190, revid=0x03 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base f4000000, size 26 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7191, revid=0x03 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=1 secondarybus=1 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7110, revid=0x02 class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7111, revid=0x01 class=01-01-80, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000ffa0, size 4 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7112, revid=0x01 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=d, irq=14 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000dce0, size 5 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7113, revid=0x02 class=06-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[90]: type 1, range 32, base 00000850, size 4 found-> vendor=0x12eb, dev=0x0001, revid=0x02 class=04-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=11 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base ff000000, size 17 map[14]: type 3, range 32, base 0000dcd8, size 3 map[18]: type 3, range 32, base 0000dcc8, size 3 found-> vendor=0x9004, dev=0x7895, revid=0x03 class=01-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=10 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 0000d800, size 8 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base ff021000, size 12 found-> vendor=0x9004, dev=0x7895, revid=0x03 class=01-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=b, irq=14 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 0000d400, size 8 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base ff020000, size 12 found-> vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0024, revid=0x03 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=2 secondarybus=2 found-> vendor=0x10b7, dev=0x9055, revid=0x24 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=14 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 0000dc00, size 7 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base ff022000, size 7 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 found-> vendor=0x1002, dev=0x4742, revid=0x5c class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=9 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base fd000000, size 24 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 0000ec00, size 8 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base fcfff000, size 12 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: (vendor=0x1002, dev=0x4742) at 0.0 irq 9 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0xffa0 ata0: mask=00 status0=ff status1=ff ata0: probe allocation failed ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0xffa8 ata1: mask=03 status0=50 status1=00 ata1: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata1-master: ATAPI probe a=14 b=eb ata1-slave: ATAPI probe a=14 b=eb ata1: mask=03 status0=00 status1=00 ata1: devices=0c ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7112) at 7.2 irq 14 chip1: port 0x850-0x85f at device 7.3 on pci0 pci0: (vendor=0x12eb, dev=0x0001) at 13.0 irq 11 ahc0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xff021000-0xff021fff irq 10 at device 14.0 on pci0 ahc0: Reading SEEPROM...done. ahc0: internal 50 cable not present, internal 68 cable is present ahc0: external cable not present ahc0: BIOS eeprom is present ahc0: High byte termination Enabled ahc0: Low byte termination Enabled ahc0: Downloading Sequencer Program... 425 instructions downloaded aic7895: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0xd400-0xd4ff mem 0xff020000-0xff020fff irq 14 at device 14.1 on pci0 ahc1: Reading SEEPROM...done. ahc1: internal 50 cable not present, internal 68 cable not present ahc1: external cable not present ahc1: BIOS eeprom is present ahc1: Low byte termination Enabled ahc1: Downloading Sequencer Program... 416 instructions downloaded aic7895: Single Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs pcib2: at device 15.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xdc00-0xdc7f mem 0xff022000-0xff02207f irq 14 at device 17.0 on pci0 using shared irq14. xl0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:4f:54:5a:9a xl0: media options word: a xl0: found MII/AUTO miibus0: on xl0 xlphy0: <3Com internal media interface> on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto bpf: xl0 attached ata-: ata0 exists, using next available unit number ata-: ata1 exists, using next available unit number Trying Read_Port at 203 CSC0000: start dependant CSC0000: adding dma mask 0xa CSC0000: adding dma mask 0xb CSC0000: adding irq mask 0x2a0 CSC0000: adding io range 0x534-0x60b, size=0x4, align=0xd4 CSC0000: adding io range 0x388-0x38b, size=0x4, align=0x8 CSC0000: adding io range 0x220-0x24f, size=0x10, align=0x20 CSC0000: start dependant CSC0000: adding dma mask 0xb CSC0000: adding irq mask 0x9aa0 CSC0000: adding io range 0x534-0xfff, size=0x4, align=0x4 CSC0000: adding io range 0x388-0x3f3, size=0x4, align=0x8 CSC0000: adding io range 0x220-0x26f, size=0x10, align=0x10 CSC0000: end dependant CSC000f: start dependant CSC000f: adding io range 0x3a0-0x3ff, size=0x8, align=0x8 CSC000f: end dependant CSC0010: adding io range 0xf00-0xfef, size=0x8, align=0x8 CSC0003: start dependant CSC0003: adding io range 0x330-0x3f1, size=0x2, align=0x8 CSC0003: end dependant isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ata2: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0x0000 ata2: mask=00 status0=ff status1=ff ata2: probe allocation failed ata2 failed to probe at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata3 failed to probe at port 0x170 irq 15 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0065 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) kbdc: RESET_KBD return code:00fa kbdc: RESET_KBD status:00aa kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x0, flags:0x3d0000 psm0: current command byte:0065 kbdc: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fa kbdc: RESET_AUX status:00aa kbdc: RESET_AUX ID:0000 psm: status 00 02 64 psm: status b1 03 c8 psm: status b1 03 c8 psm: status b1 03 c8 psm: data 08 00 00 psm: status 00 00 3c psm: status 00 02 64 psm: data 08 00 00 psm: status 00 02 64 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0-00, 3 buttons psm0: config:00000000, flags:00000000, packet size:3 psm0: syncmask:c0, syncbits:00 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 fb0: vga0, vga, type:VGA (5), flags:0x700ff fb0: port:0x3c0-0x3df, crtc:0x3d4, mem:0xa0000 0x20000 fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24 fb0: window:0xc00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0 size:32k VGA parameters upon power-up 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 07 80 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sc0: fb0, kbd0, terminal emulator: sc (syscons terminal) sio0: irq maps: 0x61 0x71 0x61 0x61 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: parallel port found at 0x378 ppc0: using extended I/O port range ppc0: ECP SPP ECP+EPP SPP ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP/NIBBLE_ID/ECP_ID/Extensibility Link Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: ppbus0: PRINTER MLC,PCL,PJL lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ed0 at port 0x300-0x31f iomem 0xd8000-0xd9fff irq 3 on isa0 bpf: ed0 attached ed0: address 02:60:8c:a7:51:55, type 3c503 (16 bit) mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530 mss_detect, busy still set (0xff) pcm0 failed to probe at port 0x530-0x537 irq 10 drq 1 on isa0 isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices pcm1: at port 0x534-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1,0 on isa0 pcm: setmap 50000, ff00; 0xcb7cc000 -> 50000 pcm: setmap 60000, ff00; 0xcb7dc000 -> 60000 unknown: failed to probe at port 0x3a0-0x3a7 on isa0 unknown: failed to probe at port 0xf00-0xf07 on isa0 unknown: failed to probe at port 0x330-0x331 on isa0 BIOS Geometries: 0:03fefe3f 0..1022=1023 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, 1..63=63 sectors 1:0101fe3f 0..257=258 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, 1..63=63 sectors 0 accounted for Device configuration finished. bpf: lo0 attached IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default ata1-master: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=2 dmaflag=1 ata1-master: success setting PIO4 on generic chip acd0: CDROM drive at ata1 as master acd0: read 2928KB/s (6890KB/s), 128KB buffer, PIO4 acd0: Reads: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked ata1-slave: piomode=0 dmamode=-1 udmamode=-1 dmaflag=0 ata1-slave: success setting PIO0 on generic chip Creating DISK afd0 afd0: rewriteable drive at ata1 as slave afd0: 96MB (196608 sectors), 96 cyls, 64 heads, 32 S/T, 512 B/S afd0: 4096KB/s, transfer limit 64 blks, PIO0 afd0: Medium: Unknown media (0x0) Waiting 8 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (noperiph:ahc0:0:-1:-1): SCSI bus reset delivered. 0 SCBs aborted. (noperiph:ahc1:0:-1:-1): SCSI bus reset delivered. 0 SCBs aborted. (ahc1:A:4:0): Sending SDTR period c, offset f (ahc1:A:4:0): Received SDTR period c, offset f Filtered to period c, offset f ahc1: target 4 synchronous at 20.0MHz, offset = 0xf (ahc0:A:0:0): Sending WDTR 1 (ahc0:A:0:0): Received WDTR 1 filtered to 1 ahc0: target 0 using 16bit transfers (ahc0:A:0:0): Sending SDTR period c, offset 8 (ahc0:A:0:0): Received SDTR period c, offset 8 Filtered to period c, offset 8 ahc0: target 0 synchronous at 20.0MHz, offset = 0x8 Creating DISK da0 Creating DISK da1 pass0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 pass0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device pass0: Serial Number 199905010124 pass0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled pass1 at ahc1 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 pass1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device pass1: Serial Number 00506803 pass1: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: Serial Number 199905010124 da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8709MB (17836668 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1110C) da1 at ahc1 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: Serial Number 00506803 da1: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 2029MB (4157201 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 258C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s2a da0s1: type 0xc, start 63, end = 1767149, size 1767087 : OK da0s2: type 0xa5, start 1767150, end = 1927799, size 160650 : OK da0s3: type 0xa5, start 1927800, end = 17832149, size 15904350 : OK WARNING: / was not properly dismounted start_init: trying /sbin/init da1s1: type 0x6, start 63, end = 1012094, size 1012032 : OK da1s2: type 0xa5, start 1012095, end = 4144769, size 3132675 : OK (ahc1:A:4:0): Sending SDTR period c, offset f (ahc1:A:4:0): Received SDTR period c, offset f Filtered to period c, offset f da1s1: type 0x6, start 63, end = 1012094, size 1012032 : OK da1s2: type 0xa5, start 1012095, end = 4144769, size 3132675 : OK (ahc1:A:4:0): Sending SDTR period c, offset f (ahc1:A:4:0): Received SDTR period c, offset f Filtered to period c, offset f da1s1: type 0x6, start 63, end = 1012094, size 1012032 : OK da1s2: type 0xa5, start 1012095, end = 4144769, size 3132675 : OK ============================================================ ============================================================ # KNOCK - RDM office Dell GX1+ # Russ Murphy # $Revision: 1.7 $ # $Date: 2000/06/01 14:53:57 $ machine i386 cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU options CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU ident KNOCK maxusers 64 options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE makeoptions CONF_CFLAGS=-fno-builtin options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=8000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor # config kernel root on da0 device isa device eisa device pci device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk device atapicd device atapifd options ATA_STATIC_ID # options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. device ahc device scbus device da device sa device pass # device cd # atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver options VESA pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 # device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 tty irq 3 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus device lpt # device plip # device vpo # ethernet card device miibus device xl # 2nd ethernet card for laptop device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 3 iomem 0xd8000 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory and message queues. options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. Be # aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this # option. The number of devices determines the maximum number of # simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable. pseudo-device bpf options ICMP_BANDLIM options SOFTUPDATES # IPFIREWALL enables support for IP firewall construction, in # conjunction with the `ipfw' program. IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE sends # logged packets to the system logger. IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT # limits the number of times a matching entry can be logged. # # WARNING: IPFIREWALL defaults to a policy of deny ip from any to any # and if you do not add other rules during startup to allow access, # YOU WILL LOCK YOURSELF OUT. It is suggested that you set firewall=open # in /etc/rc.conf when first enabling this feature, then refining the # firewall rules in /etc/rc.firewall after you've tested that the new kernel # feature works properly. # # IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT causes the default rule (at boot) to # allow everything. Use with care, if a cracker can crash your # firewall machine, they can get to your protected machines. However, # if you are using it as an as-needed filter for specific problems as # they arise, then this may be for you. Changing the default to 'allow' # means that you won't get stuck if the kernel and /sbin/ipfw binary get # out of sync. # # IPDIVERT enables the divert IP sockets, used by ``ipfw divert'' # # IPFILTER enables Darren Reed's ipfilter package. # IPFILTER_LOG enables ipfilter's logging. # IPFILTER_LKM enables LKM support for an ipfilter module (untested). # options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about # dropped packets options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable transparent proxy support options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 #limit verbosity options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default options IPDIVERT #divert sockets # options TCP_RESTRICT_RST # sound device pcm0 at isa? port ? irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 # support Wine: # Allow user-mode programs to manipulate their local descriptor tables. # This option is required for the WINE Windows(tm) emulator, and is # not used by anything else (that we know of). # options USER_LDT #allow user-level control of i386 ldt options P1003_1B options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L ============================================================ -- Russell D. Murphy Department of Economics Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University 3034 Pamplin Hall Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0316 (540) 231-4537 rdmurphy@vt.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 19:46: 5 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 19:46:03 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.clones.com (unknown [216.70.178.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FAC37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:46:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (gross@localhost) by mail.clones.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08758; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:46:47 -0800 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:46:47 -0800 (PST) From: Glendon Gross To: Warner Losh Cc: Greg Lehey , Sam Zamarripa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated) In-Reply-To: <200011200036.RAA16154@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please correct me if I am wrong, but this discussion seems to revolve around a problem that results from nonstandard BIOS routines. On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20001120105211.O58333@echunga.lemis.com> Greg Lehey writes: > : > No it isn't bogus. You can't boot off a DD disk on some machines > : > because the MBR is too bogus for the BIOS to cope with. > : > : So you put a Microsoft partition table on the boot disk. That doesn't > : mean you need it on the other disks. > > On some systems, this works. On others it doesn't. Some systems > throw a rod when they see the bogus partition table, even if it isn't > on the primary disk. > > : > The problem with DD is that we put a bogus MBR onto the disk. All > : > that is necessary to fix it would be to put a non-bgous MBR onto the > : > disk. > : > : Right, for those cases where it's needed. More specifically, we need > : to now how non-bogus it needs to be. > > It must describe most/all of the disk. It must allow the BIOS to > figure out the geometry so that the boot loader could read the disk > (note, I say could because it might not be the primary disk, and a > bogus partition could cause the BIOS to lose its brain). > > I think, and I haven't checked this out yet, that we could make the > partition end c/h/s rounded to the end of the cylinder nearest the > real end of the disk. > > Warner > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 20: 3:28 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 20:03:26 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tucheng.generalresources.com (a1.tucheng.generalresources.com [211.21.4.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8173B37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from w40.tucheng.generalresources.com (w40.tucheng.generalresources.com [192.168.1.40]) by mail.tucheng.generalresources.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBF43Rm66656; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:03:27 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from hsw@acm.org) Received: from w40.tucheng.generalresources.co (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by w40.tucheng.generalresources.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBF43Lg50229; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:03:22 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from hsw@acm.org) Message-Id: <200012150403.eBF43Lg50229@w40.tucheng.generalresources.com> To: rdmurphy@vt.edu Cc: Stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Christopher Hall From: Christopher Hall Subject: Re: Fatal trap 12? In-Reply-To: Message from "Russell D. Murphy Jr." of "Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:56:02 EST." <14905.31282.523466.649499@knock.econ.vt.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:03:21 +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <14905.31282.523466.649499@knock.econ.vt.edu>, "Russell D. Murphy Jr." writes: > >My machine has locked up solid and rebooted a few times lately; the >most recent time I managed to get this from the console (copied by >hand - I believe it's accurate, but no guarantees): > .....cut > >The machine is a Dell with an Adaptec 2940, one Quantum Viking hard >drive, and one Fujitsu (external drive in Sun packaging) hard drive. > >Thanks for any light you can shed on this -- and guidance you can offer. > >Russ I had similar experiences last week, lockups, the computer had rebooted overnight and lots of "SCB list:" messages in /var/log/messages. My set up is: ahc0: aic7880: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs Internal: at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,da1) at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (pass2,cd0) External: (separate boxes) at scbus0 target 3 lun 0 (pass3,da2) at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 (pass4,da3) The Fujitsu M2952S external box was disconnected on 2000-12-12 and no crashes since. on 2000-12-14 a PR: "kern/23536: HDD HITACHI DK32 broken tagged queueing" which on first glance has lots of similar looking SCB List numbers and wondered if that was related. Just seems curious that you also have Quantum and Fujitsu and have a similar crash to me. Until now I thought that the drive had failed. Maybe its worth turning off tagged queueing and trying again. --- Christopher Hall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 20:52:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 20:52:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD2437B402 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13709; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:52:26 +1100 (EDT) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37645) with ESMTP id <01JXQLU6BQQOEAG0T1@cim.alcatel.com.au>; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:52:13 +1100 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eBF4qKF82943; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:52:20 +1100 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:52:20 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Problems booting 486/66 after 3.1 In-reply-to: <20001213224956.7E0EC5D319@mail.cswnet.com> To: lambert@cswnet.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-followup-to: lambert@cswnet.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20001215155220.J83523@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <20001213224956.7E0EC5D319@mail.cswnet.com> <200012140737.XAA06091@spammie.svbug.com> Sender: jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 13 Dec, lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > I have a Micronics 486 VLB motherboard (unknown exact model) that doesn't > like FreeBSD beyond 3.x. 3.1-RELEASE works fine on this motherboard but > 4.x versions reboot immediately following the display of the Copyright > notices and FreeBSD version line. My 486 isn't having any problems with -current, and I know I did run 4.x on it - but I can't remember exactly when. I presume you have correctly upgraded the bootblocks and /boot/loader. Does "boot -v" give any additional details? Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 20:55:10 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 20:55:09 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D2337B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBF4t5s90051; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:55:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA66220; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:55:05 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200012150455.VAA66220@harmony.village.org> To: Glendon Gross Subject: Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated) Cc: Greg Lehey , Sam Zamarripa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:46:47 PST." References: Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:55:05 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: imp@harmony.village.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Glendon Gross writes: : Please correct me if I am wrong, but this discussion seems to revolve : around a problem that results from nonstandard BIOS routines. Not so much non-standard bios routines, but rather from BIOSes that know too much about what Should Be There and reacting Badly when that isn't the case. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 21:14:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 21:14:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.clones.com (unknown [216.70.178.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFBB37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:14:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (gross@localhost) by mail.clones.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09254; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:15:45 -0800 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:15:44 -0800 (PST) From: Glendon Gross To: Warner Losh Cc: Greg Lehey , Sam Zamarripa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated) In-Reply-To: <200012150455.VAA66220@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does that mean that such BIOS's are proprietary in the sense that they don't recognize the dedicated format? On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message Glendon Gross writes: > : Please correct me if I am wrong, but this discussion seems to revolve > : around a problem that results from nonstandard BIOS routines. > > Not so much non-standard bios routines, but rather from BIOSes that > know too much about what Should Be There and reacting Badly when that > isn't the case. > > Warner > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 22:26:36 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 22:26:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8EF37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:26:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBF6QXs90426; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:26:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA66763; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:26:32 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200012150626.XAA66763@harmony.village.org> To: Glendon Gross Subject: Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated) Cc: Greg Lehey , Sam Zamarripa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:15:44 PST." References: Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:26:32 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: imp@harmony.village.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Glendon Gross writes: : Does that mean that such BIOS's are proprietary in the sense that they : don't recognize the dedicated format? One could say that, however the fake disk label for dedicated disks is a problem. The BIOS shouldn't know about partitions, but many do. There's a older Dell machine at work that I'm fighting over this issue right now :-(. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 22:35:20 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 22:35:16 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C616B37B402 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lannilis.le-berre.com (pal3narpl01a.corp.hp.com [15.112.21.50]) by palrel1.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7213C1F71 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:35:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20001214223812.00b88200@212.129.1.43> X-Sender: philippe.le.berre/le-berre.com@212.129.1.43 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:43:44 -0800 To: freebsd-Stable@freebsd.org From: Philippe Le Berre Subject: Failure in buildworld in cse.c Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Looks like a glitch in stable ? From fresh cvsup, break in builworld : known-freebsd\" -DIN_GCC -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/g cc/convert.c -o convert.o cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc _int/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DTARGET_NAME=\"i386-un known-freebsd\" -DIN_GCC -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/g cc/cse.c -o cse.o /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/cse.c: In function `simplify_binary_operation': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/cse.c:4485: internal error--unrecognizable insn: (insn 192 188 194 (barrier/v:BLK 536870955 0 138208568) -1 (nil) (nil)) cpp: output pipe has been closed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. -------------------------- dmesg ----------------------- Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 26 00:46:59 GMT 2000 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (598.01-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x387fbff real memory = 1073741824 (1048576K bytes) avail memory = 1041694720 (1017280K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0416000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at 1.0 irq 11 fxp0: port 0xd400-0xd43f mem 0xfe900000-0xfe9fffff,0xfeafe000-0xfeafefff irq 9 at device 4.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:e0:81:01:3f:51 fxp1: port 0xd000-0xd03f mem 0xfe700000-0xfe7fffff,0xfeafd000-0xfeafdfff irq 5 at device 5.0 on pci0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:e0:81:01:3f:52 isab0: at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0xfeafc000-0xfeafcfff irq 10 at device 15.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (unknown) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib1: on motherboard pci1: on pcib1 sym0: <1010-33> port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem 0xfebd8000-0xfebd9fff,0xfebe0000-0xfebe03ff irq 7 at device 6.0 on pci1 sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-80, LVD, parity checking sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym0: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS. sym1: <1010-33> port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfebf0000-0xfebf1fff,0xfebf8000-0xfebf83ff irq 10 at device 6.1 on pci1 sym1: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-80, LVD, parity checking sym1: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym1: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym1: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS. fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: parallel port not found. acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. (noperiph:sym1:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 62, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 23: 7:29 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 23:07:19 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [192.109.159.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C194137B400; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by picalon.gun.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA08669; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:01:29 +0100 (MET) >Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBF6sLi13418; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:54:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:54:21 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: Andreas Klemm , Ilya Martynov , gad@FreeBSD.ORG, apsfilter-current@apsfilter.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Garrett Wollman Subject: Re: printer spooldirs wrong owner ?? (was Re: Fixes for apsfilter-current-09.12.2000 (printing via smbclient) ) Message-ID: <20001215075421.A13293@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <20001214080622.A11433@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from drosih@rpi.edu on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 06:13:01PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 06:13:01PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 8:06 AM +0100 12/14/00, Andreas Klemm wrote: > >On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:35:51PM +0300, Ilya Martynov wrote: > > > P.S. I forgot about another problem I meet while setting up > > > printing. SETUP creates smbclient.conf that is not readble > > > by lpd. For me it was created as: > > > > >> -rw------- 1 root daemon 156 Dec 12 16:41 smbclient.conf > >> > >> to make printing work I had to chmod g+r on it. > > > >I think this is an inconsistency in FreeBSD ... > > > >The filterscript (forked by llpd) runs under permissions > >daemon.wheel, but the spooldirs in FreeBSD by default are > >created with permissions root.daemon. > > > >I think this could easily be fixed, if you would > > chown -R dameon.wheel /var/spool/lpd > >and during apsfilter SETUP you should take care that owner > >and group are now setup right to match daemon.wheel. > > > >[ Cc'd to freebsd-stable ] > > > >What do the lpd maintaining authorities in FreeBSD say ? > > I haven't thought about permissions enough to say I have a > strong opinion on it, but my gut-level feeling is that the > spool directories are created with the right owner+group > (ie, root+daemon). I inserted an echo "bla" > /tmp/xxxx into apsfilter (lineprinter input filter). The permissions of the resulting file were daemon.wheel and not root.daemon like the spooldirs have as default. When printing to a Windows remote printer using smbclient we need to store Windows logins and passwords into the smbclient.conf file. Therefore we wanted best protection for the file. So we let the file owned by root and only readable by root. Well, apsfilter is unable to read smbclient.conf, since lpd lets the if run under daemon UID ... So I thought, the permissions of the spooldirs are a bit misleading or maybe wrong. The question is, if lpd runs locally under UID "daemon". Why do the spooldirs not belong to the same UID ??? I had no idea in the past, how apsfilters SETUP script could check, under which permissions lpd runs, to create spooldirs with proper permissions. Therefore I use UID and GID of /var/spool/lpd, if present. And this UID and GID value is also used for the smbclient.conf file. Well, and this fails ... What irritates me a bit is, that ps -l tells me, that lpd runs with UID 0 = root. But in fact the :if: runs as daemon.wheel. So for me the confusion is now ... a) why is it not safe to choose UID and GID of spooldirs in the hope to get proper permissions for protecting files needed at runtime of input filters ? b) To followup a) are lpd's spooldirs wrong in lpd ? If not, why not ? Thanks for helping me improving apsfilter (or BSD) ! Best regards Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm Powered by FreeBSD SMP Songs from our band >>64Bits<<............http://www.apsfilter.org/64bits.html My homepage................................ http://people.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas Please note: Apsfilter got a NEW HOME................http://www.apsfilter.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 23:27:28 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 23:27:26 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (a13b063.neo.rr.com [204.210.197.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEF037B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eBF7KeH08211; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 02:20:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 02:20:40 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Nowlin To: Glendon Gross Cc: Warner Losh , Greg Lehey , Sam Zamarripa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Does that mean that such BIOS's are proprietary in the sense that they > don't recognize the dedicated format? There are times when the politically-correct of the world use the term "proprietary" when they actually mean "dumb" or "really badly designed". But yes, that's what it means... :) mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 23:28:47 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 23:28:46 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF9B37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:28:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85B8E6AB68; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:58:42 +1030 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:58:42 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Nowlin Cc: Glendon Gross , Warner Losh , Sam Zamarripa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated) Message-ID: <20001215175842.B91832@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mike@argos.org on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 02:20:40AM -0500 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 15 December 2000 at 2:20:40 -0500, Mike Nowlin wrote: > >> Does that mean that such BIOS's are proprietary in the sense that they >> don't recognize the dedicated format? > > There are times when the politically-correct of the world use the term > "proprietary" when they actually mean "dumb" or "really badly > designed". But yes, that's what it means... :) To be fair, the dedicated fake partition table format is a hack. It's too difficult to figure out what the real geometry is, so it invents one which should "do the job". Some BIOSes check the table and find it wanting. It's a grey area. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 14 23:34: 7 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 23:34:05 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE8237B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:34:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from sexta.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.16.13] ident=danny) by cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 146pNT-0007jM-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:34:03 +0200 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-0.24 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make install KERNEL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:34:03 +0200 From: Danny Braniss Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG why are userland programs installed when installing a kernel? danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 0: 8:26 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 00:08:23 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw2.dnepr.net (CoreGW2-TBone.dnepr.net [195.24.156.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC7237B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from dnepr.net (dnepr.net [195.24.156.98]) by gw2.dnepr.net (8.8.8/8.6.18/01) with ESMTP id KAA25191 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:07:55 +0200 (EET) Received: (from land@localhost) by dnepr.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08808 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:07:45 +0200 (EET) X-POP3-RCPT: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:07:43 +0200 From: Andrey Lakhno To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel panics Message-ID: <20001215100740.A29967@dnepr.net> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001213122916.A15772@dnepr.net> <20001214120704.A70810@vger.bsdhome.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001214120704.A70810@vger.bsdhome.com>; from bsd@bsdhome.com on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 12:07:04 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Brian! On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Brian Dean wrote: > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 12:29:16PM +0200, Andrey Lakhno wrote: > > > > I have FreeBSD 4.x-STABLE box. > > Hardware configuration: motherboard Intel D815EEA (i815 chipset) with > > integrated Intel EtherExpress Pro/100+, CPU Celeron 500MHz, RAM 128Mb, > > HDD IDE Seagate Baracuda ST320420A. > > > > It randomly crashes. Kernel panics with following diagnostics: > > > > Fatal trap 10: trace trap while in kernel mode > > When was the last time you've updated your sources and rebuilt? What > is the version of the following files: Last time it was 12.12.2000. But yesterday I rollbacked to RELENG_4_2_0_RELESE. It still panics. > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c * $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c,v 1.147.2.3 2000/08/16 05:35:34 ps Exp $ * $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c,v 1.385.2.9 2000/10/27 09:07:22 ps Exp $ > What is the output of uname -a? FreeBSD host.domain 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #3: Thu Dec 14 10:57:42 EET 2000 root@host.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/KERN i386 There is strange messages in my logs: /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout last message repeated 4 times /kernel: fxp0: device timeout -- Best regards, Andrey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 0: 8:40 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 00:08:38 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF6737B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoraida.reyes.somos.net (zoraida.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.15]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA83760; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:03:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:12:13 -0500 (EST) From: Francisco Reyes To: Vivek Khera Cc: Ron Rosson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Buildworld Server In-Reply-To: <14905.11883.609177.594611@onceler.kciLink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > on the server, run make buildkernel KERNEL=whatever for the clients. Do I have to do a "make installkernel" on each client before doing the next "make buildkernel KERNEL=whatever"? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 1: 3:13 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 01:03:12 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA70037B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 01:03:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 146qlh-0001rG-00; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:03:09 +0000 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Cliff Sarginson Subject: 4.2 Not booting problem Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:03:09 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@btvs.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 192.250.24.58 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello .. I posted this problem a while back, and someone did offer to help, but I "lost" the mail he sent me. to repeat the problem (reported by at least 2 others in questions-) I installed 4.2 on my test machine. A Tulip P90. 48MB Ram, 2Gig disk. Installation went smoothly. But, when re-booting, nothing appeared on the screen. I tried it a few times, with and without "dangerously dedicated disk" giving the whole disk to BSD etc. I have used this machine many times for test installations of linux and freebsd 4.0 systems without any problems. My final solution was to installa small linux system on it, then install BSD and use Lilo. This worked fine. Clues ? Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 1: 9:52 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 01:09:49 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scully.zoominternet.net (scully.zoominternet.net [63.67.120.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B713137B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 01:09:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13044 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2000 09:09:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO donnmill) (24.154.34.186) by scully.zoominternet.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 2000 09:09:36 -0000 Message-ID: <000501c06676$c57495a0$ba229a18@zbzoom.net> From: "Donn Miller" To: , "Cliff Sarginson" References: Subject: Re: 4.2 Not booting problem Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 04:09:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Sarginson" To: Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 4:03 AM Subject: 4.2 Not booting problem > I installed 4.2 on my test machine. > A Tulip P90. 48MB Ram, 2Gig disk. > Installation went smoothly. > But, when re-booting, nothing appeared on the screen. Did it say "invalid partition table"? > My final solution was to installa small linux system on it, then > install BSD and use Lilo. This worked fine. Sounds like you forgot to set the root partition "active". - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 1:17: 4 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 01:17:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADC437B402 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 01:17:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 146qz6-0002LS-00; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:17:00 +0000 To: "Donn Miller" , , "Cliff Sarginson" From: Cliff Sarginson Subject: Re: 4.2 Not booting problem Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:17:00 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@btvs.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 192.250.24.58 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cliff Sarginson" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 4:03 AM > Subject: 4.2 Not booting problem > > > I installed 4.2 on my test machine. > > A Tulip P90. 48MB Ram, 2Gig disk. > > Installation went smoothly. > > But, when re-booting, nothing appeared on the screen. > > Did it say "invalid partition table"? No .. with "non dangerous" it said nothing, with dangerous it just said "Read error" > > > My final solution was to installa small linux system on it, then > > install BSD and use Lilo. This worked fine. > > Sounds like you forgot to set the root partition "active". Have I mistakenly assumed that if I tell BSD to use the whole disk, and to install it's boot apparatus, it will also set the root as bootable ? I certainly didn;t have to do that with 4.0.. > - Donn > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 1:33:43 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 01:33:40 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6349737B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 01:33:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BB3BE134AA; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:30:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:30:11 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Warner Losh Cc: Kal Torak , FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: new kernel build method? Message-ID: <20001215103011.B58274@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <3A390FFF.CD3370E6@quake.com.au> <200012142110.OAA50431@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200012142110.OAA50431@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 02:10:18PM -0700 Sender: stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 02:10:18PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <3A390FFF.CD3370E6@quake.com.au> Kal Torak writes: > : But what is the old method? Is the old method doing: > : cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > : /usr/bin/config KERNEL-NAME > : cd ../../compile/KERNEL-NAME > : make dep ^^^ as someone already said, this should be 'make depend' > : make > : make install This is indeed the old method. > : > : Are we meant to be doing it from /usr/src using: > : make buildkernel KERNEL=KERNEL-NAME > : make installkernel KERNEL=KERNEL-NAME This is the "Officially Sanctioned Update Procedure". > If you are upgrading from one version of FreeBSD to another (even on > the same branch), you should be useing the new method. If you are > building and rebuilding the kernel alot on the same version, then the > old way is a little faster. Plus, using the old way you can get rid of /usr/obj, which is a bonus for machines with small disks like firewalls. Yes, it should have enough disk, but it *is* taking up space, and it is a bit weird to have essentially *2* base systems installed on one box, just to be able to build a kernel. I like the new build/installkernel targets, and I use them on the machines I reinstall every month or so, but I do think there are more reasons for using the old method than people realize. I actually read through the threads on -stable from last july again, following the original HEADS UP from Kris Kennaway. In Message-ID , Kris says regarding make buildkernel, "Get into the habit of using it for every kernel build you do." I realize people can shoot themselves in the foot the old way, like in the instance of a binutils/gcc change, but how often does that happen? But then again, I don't have to "support" lots of people so why am I whining :) --Stijn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 1:35:41 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 01:35:38 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6991C37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 01:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02605; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 01:35:28 -0800 Message-ID: <3A39E5E0.5C039C29@urx.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 01:35:28 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philippe Le Berre Cc: freebsd-Stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Failure in buildworld in cse.c References: <5.0.2.1.0.20001214223812.00b88200@212.129.1.43> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Philippe Le Berre wrote: > > Hi, > > Looks like a glitch in stable ? From fresh cvsup, break in builworld : I went through that section very quickly on my AMD Athlon-900 and didn't have any errors. I would cvsup and try again. Since you are really trying to update your system, you might find you have to remove your /usr/obj or make cleandir your /usr/src's. What mine looked like was cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/ usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_i nt/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DTARGET_NAME=\"i386-unkno wn-freebsd\" -DIN_GCC -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/c se.c -o cse.o cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/ usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_i nt/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DTARGET_NAME=\"i386-unkno wn-freebsd\" -DIN_GCC -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/d bxout.c -o dbxout.o Kent > > known-freebsd\" -DIN_GCC -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/g > cc/convert.c -o convert.o > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H > -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc > _int/../../../../contrib/gcc > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/config > -DTARGET_NAME=\"i386-un > known-freebsd\" -DIN_GCC -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/g > cc/cse.c -o cse.o > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/cse.c: In function > `simplify_binary_operation': > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/cse.c:4485: internal > error--unrecognizable insn: > (insn 192 188 194 (barrier/v:BLK 536870955 0 138208568) -1 (nil) > (nil)) -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 2:56: 4 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 02:56:03 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E3CF37B698 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 02:56:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 15 Dec 2000 10:56:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:56:01 +0000 From: David Malone To: Danny Braniss Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make install KERNEL Message-ID: <20001215105601.A73368@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from danny@cs.huji.ac.il on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 09:34:03AM +0200 Sender: dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 09:34:03AM +0200, Danny Braniss wrote: > why are userland programs installed when installing a kernel? What directory are you in, and what command are you typing? If you are in /usr/src you should be typing something like "make installkernel" - with no space. If you are in /usr/src/sys/compile/NAME then you should be typing "make install". David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 3:19:17 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 03:19:15 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5454937B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:19:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sexta.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.16.13] ident=danny) by cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 146stJ-0004Ch-00; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:19:09 +0200 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-0.24 To: David Malone Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make install KERNEL In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:56:01 +0000 . Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:19:09 +0200 From: Danny Braniss Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20001215105601.A73368@walton.maths.tcd.ie>you write: }On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 09:34:03AM +0200, Danny Braniss wrote: }> why are userland programs installed when installing a kernel? } }What directory are you in, and what command are you typing? If you }are in /usr/src you should be typing something like "make installkernel" }- with no space. If you are in /usr/src/sys/compile/NAME then you }should be typing "make install". } } David. ok, i think i have to re-phrase the question :-) The kernel gets installed, but some shell scripts from /usr/src/sys/modules get installed in usr/bin or usr/sbin. why? i can answer some of my own question thus: they are related to kernel loadable modules, so there is some connection. but so are many other programs and they do not get installed when installing a new kernel. in my case, i was installing to a nfs-root partition, with no usr, so to get the install working, i ran make -k, and then had to check if the errors where ignorable. danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 3:25:14 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 03:25:12 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.abacus.co.uk (mailgate.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C91437B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:25:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from abacus.co.uk (pcantony.bl.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.111]) by mailgate.abacus.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA31274; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:22:41 GMT Sender: antony@mailgate.abacus.co.uk Message-ID: <3A39FF87.9A34EE73@abacus.co.uk> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:24:55 +0000 From: Antony T Curtis Organization: Abacus Polar PLC (UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ron Rosson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP not deleting ip's References: <20001214161733.A57811@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > > I have a FreeBSD box running 4.1-R running as a Gateway machine for a > small LAN. It is using ijppp for the connection and all is working > well.. I got to looking at it and noticed that everytime it disconnects > it does not delete the IP address it was assigned to before. So when it > connects the next time and gets a different IP it just adds it to tun0. I expereinced the same problems... I ended up simply killing and restarting ppp. I guess that a solution would be for the ppp program to close and reopen the tunX device when a connection is lost... I haven't examined it's sources to be sure. -- ANTONY T CURTIS Tel: +44 (1635) 36222 Abacus Polar Holdings Ltd Fax: +44 (1635) 38670 > Winter is the season in which people try to keep the house as warm as > it was in the summer, when they complained about the heat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 3:25:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 03:25:42 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from weirdo.netcraft.com (weirdo.netcraft.com [195.92.95.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD6F37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sketchy@localhost) by weirdo.netcraft.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBFBP4j14622 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:25:04 GMT (envelope-from sketchy) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:25:04 +0000 From: Jonathan Perkin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: SLIP bug / Softupdates Disk Corruption Message-ID: <20001215112504.F45819@netcraft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 4.2-RELEASE Sender: sketchy@weirdo.netcraft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is someone taking a look at this? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23379 It's now completely hosed my /var partition twice with softupdate errors, with only a long time spent using clri(8) before fsck can do it's thing - and even after that I'm only left with like 5/6 files. With SLIP being such a core service, and with it causing bugs in softupdates, I'd have thought it would be worth a few eyes glancing over it :) Cheers, Jon. -- Jonathan Perkin +44 (0)1225 867914 Netcraft Ltd, Bradford on Avon, UK - http://www.netcraft.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 3:38:26 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 03:38:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D4E237B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 15 Dec 2000 11:38:23 +0000 (GMT) To: Danny Braniss Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make install KERNEL In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:19:09 +0200." X-Request-Do: Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:38:23 +0000 From: David Malone Message-ID: <200012151138.aa47932@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The kernel gets installed, but some shell scripts from > /usr/src/sys/modules get installed in usr/bin or usr/sbin. > why? They are sort of historical, because the module loading system used not understand dependancies. In -current they have been removed. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 3:42:21 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 03:42:20 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.zsgp.gascom.ru (unknown [217.17.162.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DED37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:42:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from igor@localhost) by mail.zsgp.gascom.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08313; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:44:16 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from igor) From: "Igor I. Ushatinsky" Message-Id: <200012151144.QAA08313@mail.zsgp.gascom.ru> Subject: Re: PPP not deleting ip's In-Reply-To: <3A39FF87.9A34EE73@abacus.co.uk> from Antony T Curtis at "Dec 15, 2000 11:24:55 am" To: antony@abacus.co.uk (Antony T Curtis) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:44:16 +0500 (ES) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: "Igor I. Ushatinsky" Organization: Zapsibgazprom X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > > > > I have a FreeBSD box running 4.1-R running as a Gateway machine for a > > small LAN. It is using ijppp for the connection and all is working > > well.. I got to looking at it and noticed that everytime it disconnects > > it does not delete the IP address it was assigned to before. So when it > > connects the next time and gets a different IP it just adds it to tun0. > > I expereinced the same problems... I ended up simply killing and > restarting ppp. Try to add following lines to /etc/ppp/ppp.linkdown: your-entry: delete MYADDR (where 'your-entry' is the same as in ppp.conf) /Igor. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 6:36: 3 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 06:36:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A840037B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 06:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [208.184.13.195]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FB3C9BC for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:35:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [208.184.13.196]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842BB2E443 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:35:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBFEZxL92801; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:35:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14906.11343.57460.895050@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:35:59 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Buildworld Server In-Reply-To: References: <14905.11883.609177.594611@onceler.kciLink.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "PAH" == Paul A Howes writes: PAH> I have done this many times, and this is the correct way of handling a PAH> build-server. However, I'd like to clarify a couple of things: PAH> I like to permanently export the file systems used during builds. I just PAH> feel that it's easier this way. On the server, edit your /etc/exports file PAH> and add the following lines: PAH> /usr/src -alldirs -maproot=0 * PAH> /usr/obj -alldirs -maproot=0 * PAH> /usr/ports -alldirs -maproot=0 * The "-alldirs" is totally unnecessary for your example. You only attempt to mount the specified mount point, not some arbitrary interior directory. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 6:38:16 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 06:38:14 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B861C37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 06:38:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [208.184.13.195]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F70C9BC for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:38:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [208.184.13.196]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB612E443 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:38:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBFEcDW00596; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:38:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14906.11477.636007.663856@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:38:13 -0500 To: STABLE Subject: Re: problems w/ make world... In-Reply-To: <3A39566D.C585776C@mediaone.net> References: <3A39566D.C585776C@mediaone.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "EML" == Eric M Logan writes: EML> the world several times until it completes successfully. I've also EML> tried swapping out ram, drives, nics, motherboards and even CPUs so I EML> really don't think it's that. Having said that, if anyone could suggest EML> a solution, thanks in advance. Did you swap the drive controllers and even the case? Yes, the case. Also, try the CPU fan. You may have a corrupted existing system, too. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 7:17:56 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 07:17:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from runaway.2sun.ru (runaway.2sun.ru [212.158.172.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3397337B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11599 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Dec 2000 15:17:59 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:17:59 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky To: Mikko Tyolajarvi Cc: gnb@itga.com.au, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with video-CDs Message-ID: <20001215181759.B11528@runaway.2sun.ru> References: <200012120436.PAA05653@lightning.itga.com.au> <200012120656.eBC6udG41533@explorer.rsa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200012120656.eBC6udG41533@explorer.rsa.com>; from mikko@dynas.se on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:56:39PM -0800 Sender: tarkhil@runaway.2sun.ru Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:56:39PM -0800, Mikko Tyolajarvi wrote: > A search for "VCD" should have pointed you to some patches at > . I don't know if they will > work, but it might be worth a try. It should be "applied" manually as of 4.X, but than it works. Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 7:39:19 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 07:39:09 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2F237B402 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:39:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.45.2]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49155137FDA for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:39:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23756; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:39:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14906.15130.501013.641325@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:39:06 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: FORE ATM card conflicts? X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got a FORE ATM card (OC-3) and I added the appropriate options to my kernel config file (included below). I've also included the boot messages that I get without the FORE ATM card. When I boot with the FORE ATM card in the machine and support for it enabled in the kernel, it wedges hard right when the kernel says "mounting root from /dev/da0s1a" ... and the disk never ends up dirty, so it's not getting beyond that. Does the FORE card have troubles sharing interupts (there is a lot of cards in this machine)? # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.6 2000/06/22 06:03:12 peter Exp $ machine i386 #cpu I386_CPU #cpu I486_CPU #cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident GENERIC maxusers 128 makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem #options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device #options NFS #Network Filesystem #options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required #options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem #options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem #options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=2000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=4 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # ATA and ATAPI devices #device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 #device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 #device ata #device atadisk # ATA disk drives #device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives #device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives #options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering #options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices # SCSI Controllers #device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T)) #device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options! #device isp # Qlogic family #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic #device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) #options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40 # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when # both sym and ncr are configured #device adv0 at isa? #device adw #device bt0 at isa? #device aha0 at isa? #device aic0 at isa? # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # RAID controllers #device ida # Compaq Smart RAID #device amr # AMI MegaRAID #device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 #device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) #device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #device card #device pcic0 at isa? irq 10 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 #device pcic1 at isa? irq 11 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. #device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') #device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. device miibus # MII bus support device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes #device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) #device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device wb # Winbond W89C840F #device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device ex #device ep # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code. #device wi # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify # those paremeters here. #device an # The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c. #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0 #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 #device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support #device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface #device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface #device usb # USB Bus (required) #device ugen # Generic #device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" #device ukbd # Keyboard #device ulpt # Printer #device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da #device ums # Mouse # USB Ethernet, requires mii #device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet #device cue # CATC USB ethernet #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # Include this file in kernel #options IPSEC #IP security #options IPSEC_ESP #IP security (crypto; define w/ IPSEC) #options IPSEC_IPV6FWD #IP security tunnel for IPv6 #options NETGRAPH #netgraph(4) system #options NETGRAPH_ASYNC #options NETGRAPH_BPF #options NETGRAPH_CISCO #options NETGRAPH_ECHO #options NETGRAPH_FRAME_RELAY #options NETGRAPH_HOLE #options NETGRAPH_IFACE #options NETGRAPH_KSOCKET #options NETGRAPH_LMI #options NETGRAPH_MPPC_ENCRYPTION #options NETGRAPH_PPP #options NETGRAPH_PPPOE #options NETGRAPH_PPTPGRE #options NETGRAPH_RFC1490 #options NETGRAPH_SOCKET #options NETGRAPH_TEE #options NETGRAPH_TTY #options NETGRAPH_UI #options NETGRAPH_VJC options MROUTING # Multicast routing options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about # dropped packets options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable transparent proxy support options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=1000 #limit verbosity options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default options IPV6FIREWALL #firewall for IPv6 options IPV6FIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPV6FIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=1000 options IPV6FIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPDIVERT #divert sockets options IPSTEALTH #support for stealth forwarding options DUMMYNET options BRIDGE #options CONSPEED=38400 #options DDB #options GDB_REMOTE_CHAT #options INVARIANT_SUPPORT #options INVARIANTS options ATM_CORE #core ATM protocol family options ATM_IP #IP over ATM support options ATM_SIGPVC #SIGPVC signalling manager #options ATM_SPANS #SPANS signalling manager #options ATM_UNI #UNI signalling manager #device hea #Efficient ENI-155p ATM PCI device hfa #FORE PCA-200E ATM PCI Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #19: Fri Dec 15 10:25:04 EST 2000 root@hadrian2.velocet.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/HADRIAN Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 750032792 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (750.03-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x622 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0400000 real memory = 134201344 (131056K bytes) avail memory = 127504384 (124516K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02fa000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib2: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib2 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 4.1 pci0: at 4.2 irq 12 pci0: at 4.3 irq 12 fxp0: port 0xa400-0xa43f mem 0xe1000000-0xe10fffff,0xe1800000-0xe1800fff irq 12 at device 9.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:4c:bd:b3 fxp1: port 0xa000-0xa03f mem 0xe0000000-0xe00fffff,0xe0800000-0xe0800fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:4c:bc:f3 ahc0: port 0x9800-0x98ff mem 0xdf800000-0xdf800fff irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 aic7880: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs fxp2: port 0x9400-0x943f mem 0xde800000-0xde8fffff,0xdf000000-0xdf000fff irq 12 at device 13.0 on pci0 fxp2: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:4c:bd:b0 pcib1: on motherboard pci2: on pcib1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 DUMMYNET initialized (000608) IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, logging limited to 1000 packets/entry IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, logging limited to 1000 packets/entry by default BRIDGE 990810, have 12 interfaces -- index 1 type 6 phy 0 addrl 6 addr 00.d0.b7.4c.bd.b3 -- index 2 type 6 phy 0 addrl 6 addr 00.d0.b7.4c.bc.f3 -- index 3 type 6 phy 0 addrl 6 addr 00.d0.b7.4c.bd.b0 Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) arp: 204.138.45.2 moved from 00:80:c8:f8:7b:cf to 00:80:c8:f8:7b:ce on fxp0 uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 12 at device 4.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 12 at device 4.3 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 7:44:36 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 07:44:31 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay1.adelphia.net (smtprelay1.adelphia.net [64.8.25.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3E437B404; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:44:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from adelphia.net ([24.50.186.158]) by smtprelay1.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G5M8TQ00.M3P; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:39:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3A3A3B9E.102199A4@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:41:18 -0500 From: Nader Turki X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Unable to transfer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I just got the FreeBSD 4.2-R ISO for the 2nd time from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.2-install.iso While installing the XFree86 Distribution I get few errors that says: Unable to transfer the PC98-Servers/X9480 distribution from acd0c. Do you want to try to retrive again? Yes No I get the same message with thr following: PC98-Servers/ PC98-Servers/ PC98-Servers/ PC98-Servers/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 7:47: 9 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 07:47:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay1.adelphia.net (smtprelay1.adelphia.net [64.8.25.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2098C37B400; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:47:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from adelphia.net ([24.50.186.158]) by smtprelay1.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G5M93K00.741; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:45:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3A3A3D00.F2FFFC17@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:47:12 -0500 From: Nader Turki X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Sorry! Unable to transfer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I just got the FreeBSD 4.2-R ISO for the 2nd time from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.2-install.iso While installing the XFree86 Distribution I get few errors that says: Unable to transfer the PC98-Servers/X9480 distribution from acd0c. Do you want to try to retrive again? Yes No I get the same message with thr following: PC98-Servers/X9EGC PC98-Servers/X9GAq PC98-Servers/X9GAN PC98-Servers/X9LPIw PC98-Servers/X9MGA PC98-Servers/X9NKV PC98-Servers/X9NS3 PC98-Servers/X9SPW PC98-Servers/X9SVG PC98-Servers/X9TGU PC98-Servers/X9WEP PC98-Servers/X9WS PC98-Servers/X9WSN and: Xlk98 X9set I just installed FreeBSD 4.1.1-R and didn't get those errors. I'm sure it's not from my CDROM. I mean is that somethin' normal? should i just ignore those files? Thank you, -Nader To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 8: 1:28 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 08:01:23 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8F437B698 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:01:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id eBFG1Js65751 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:01:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.11.1/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id eBFG1Hm14300 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:01:18 +0100 (MET) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04204 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:01:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michel) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:01:17 +0100 From: Michel Talon To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2 Not booting problem Message-ID: <20001215170117.A4182@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000501c06676$c57495a0$ba229a18@zbzoom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <000501c06676$c57495a0$ba229a18@zbzoom.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 04:09:46AM -0500, Donn Miller wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cliff Sarginson" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 4:03 AM > Subject: 4.2 Not booting problem > > > I installed 4.2 on my test machine. > > A Tulip P90. 48MB Ram, 2Gig disk. > > Installation went smoothly. > > But, when re-booting, nothing appeared on the screen. > > Did it say "invalid partition table"? > > > My final solution was to installa small linux system on it, then > > install BSD and use Lilo. This worked fine. > > Sounds like you forgot to set the root partition "active". I cannot see that this has any importance on the booting problem. On my laptop i have set the Windows partition to be always active, to make the BIOS happy, (it is an option of boot0cfg) but booteasy is able to boot either Windows or FreeBSD without any problem. Of course it may be a particular Bios bug, such as on the Thinkpads, but less severe since lilo is able to make the machine work. -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 8: 8:56 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 08:08:53 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bach.Graphics.Cornell.EDU (bach.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E05337B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:08:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from graphics.cornell.edu (barn.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.210]) by bach.Graphics.Cornell.EDU (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA29281 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:08:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hurf@graphics.cornell.edu) Message-ID: <3A3A414A.AD289029@graphics.cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:05:30 -0500 From: Hurf Sheldon Organization: Program of Computer Graphics, Cornell University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2 stable SCSI errors References: <3A37BC7E.319FE29D@graphics.cornell.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Folks, We are having these errors with another type of drive as well - it seems to be related to trying to read the tape after a move operation. Using a single CPU kernel did not affect the problem... (ch0:ahc0:0:0:1): MOVE MEDIUM. CDB: a5 20 0 0 0 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 (ch0:ahc0:0:0:1): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:3b,d (ch0:ahc0:0:0:1): Medium destination element full ch: warning: could not map element source address 0d to a valid element type (sa0:ahc0:0:0:0): tape is now frozen- use an OFFLINE, REWIND or MTEOM command t o clear this state. (sa0:ahc0:0:0:0): tape is now frozen- use an OFFLINE, REWIND or MTEOM command t o clear this state. (sa0:ahc0:0:0:0): tape is now frozen- use an OFFLINE, REWIND or MTEOM command t o clear this state. ch: warning: could not map element source address 0d to a valid element type (sa0:ahc0:0:0:0): tape is now frozen- use an OFFLINE, REWIND or MTEOM command t o clear this state. (sa0:ahc0:0:0:0): 32768-byte tape record bigger than suplied buffer ch: warning: could not map element source address 0d to a valid element type . System description: System 4.2 stable (cvsup 12/10/00) (4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #3:) Dual 266mhz PII, PB2-D ASUS MB, Adaptec 2930CU card Overland 4000 DLT tape library (LXS4115) or HP SURESTORE 1200 DDS2 . Any insights to a solution would be appreciated. thanks, hurf Hurf Sheldon wrote: > > Hi Folks, > We are getting "Queuing a BDR SCB" errors and then related > problems trying to access a DLT tape library via `amlabel` > or `chio` (which `amlabel` uses). It seems to be > related to wait-states as acessing the first 6 slots never > causes an error - slots 7+ do - the library seems to take longer > to seat the cartridges as it homes each time before shopping > for a cartridge. The drive works fine on an HPUX system. > We've gone into the SCSI card and reset the tranfer rate to 10mb/s. > I looked for some notes re: this and the only reference I found > was re: dual CPU interrpts; we are using a dual PII system. As > I write this a single cpu kernal is being built that we will > try. Should we try a single cpu motherboard system or? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 8:11: 4 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 08:11:00 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gate.trident-uk.co.uk (mail.trident-uk.co.uk [195.166.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1146F37B400; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:10:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [194.207.93.139] by gate.trident-uk.co.uk for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org id QAA07238; Fri Dec 15 16:08:04 2000 Organization: Psi-Domain Ltd. Subject: ESS Sound Driver Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:10:09 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00121516132000.04421@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Jamie Heckford Reply-To: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Could anyone offer any guidance on getting the following sound card to work? It is in a Samsung GT8700 laptop - and I am using FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE. Windows identifies the card as an ESS Maestro PCI Audio (WDM) - IRQ 5 I have tried the sbc and pcm sound drivers - but with no joy. Here is some info at boot if it is of any help: pci0: (vendor=0x125d, dev=0x199a) at 12.0 pci0: (vendor=0x11c1, dev=0x0444) at 13.1 Thanks in advance for your help -- Jamie Heckford Chief Network Engineer Psi-Domain - Innovative Linux Solutions. Ask Us How. ===================================== email: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk web: http://www.psi-domain.co.uk/ tel: +44 (0)1737 789 246 fax: +44 (0)1737 789 245 mobile: +44 (0)7779 646 529 ===================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 8:36:14 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 08:36:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mothra.ecs.csus.edu (unknown [130.86.76.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCF737B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:36:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mothra.ecs.csus.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBFI2dX58419; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:02:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joseph@randomnetworks.com) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:02:39 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Scott X-Sender: scottj@mothra.ecs.csus.edu To: Jim Weeks Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2 Beta hang on warm boot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: # I had a simular situation on an old 486. I wish I had kept all the # output, but as best I can remember the problem stemmed from ed0 not being # able to clear shared memory on reboot. I did keep this line. # # ed0: failed to clear shared memory at d8000 - check configuration # # Of course you are not getting this far during reboot. Maybe someone with # more knowledge can pick up the ball here. # # Possibly, configuring ed0 in the kernel rather than in /boot/kernel.conf # would solve the problem. A couple people had pointed me in that direction. Although I'd used the card in the past, I went ahead and pulled it out. After doing that it worked fine. Even though I never got the "failed to clear shared memory" error, the nic seemed to have been the problem. *********************************************************** * Joseph Scott The Office Of Water Programs * * joseph@randomnetworks.com joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu * *********************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 8:41:57 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 08:41:53 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968AC37B69D for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:41:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id eBFGfps78886 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:41:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.11.1/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id eBFGfnm14597 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:41:49 +0100 (MET) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04281 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:41:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michel) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:41:50 +0100 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS Sound Driver Message-ID: <20001215174150.A4266@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <00121516132000.04421@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <00121516132000.04421@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 04:10:09PM +0000, Jamie Heckford wrote: > Hi, > > Could anyone offer any guidance on getting the following sound card to work? > > It is in a Samsung GT8700 laptop - and I am using FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE. > > Windows identifies the card as an ESS Maestro PCI Audio (WDM) - IRQ 5 > I have seen recently a HP laptop with a maestro 3 audio card. I have been able to run the sound card only with the Alsa drivers under Linux. Apparently the FreeBSD drivers are able to run only the maestro 2 and 2E. -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 8:47:35 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 08:47:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D6037B402 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:47:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06553; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:47:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [162.62.64.10]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19749; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:41:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com (btcexc01 [162.62.147.10]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24996; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:47:22 -0700 (MST) Received: by btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:47:22 -0700 Message-ID: <78784D0E83CDD411BB580000D11ABE920C88B6@btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com> From: "Long, Scott" To: "'Michel Talon'" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ESS Sound Driver Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:47:16 -0700 Return-Receipt-To: "Long, Scott" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Myself and Darrell Anderson are working on a driver. Check out http://people.freebsd.org/~scottl/maestro3 for mine or http://www.cs.duke.edu/~anderson/freebsd/maestro3xxx for his. The PCI id mentioned by the original poster (0x199a125d) is supported by this driver, though I haven't tested it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Michel Talon [mailto:michel@lpthe.jussieu.fr] > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:42 AM > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: ESS Sound Driver > > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 04:10:09PM +0000, Jamie Heckford wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Could anyone offer any guidance on getting the following > sound card to work? > > > > It is in a Samsung GT8700 laptop - and I am using FreeBSD > 4.2-RELEASE. > > > > Windows identifies the card as an ESS Maestro PCI Audio > (WDM) - IRQ 5 > > > I have seen recently a HP laptop with a maestro 3 audio > card. I have been > able to run the sound card only with the Alsa drivers under Linux. > Apparently the FreeBSD drivers are able to run only the > maestro 2 and 2E. > > -- > Michel Talon > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 8:53:57 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 08:53:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unix.megared.net.mx (megamail.megared.com.mx [200.52.207.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262F937B400; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (lcroker@localhost) by unix.megared.net.mx (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBFGrrc51704; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:53:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lcroker@unix.megared.net.mx) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:53:52 -0600 (CST) From: Lu!s Croker To: Jamie Heckford Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS Sound Driver In-Reply-To: <00121516132000.04421@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi... I have that output in the dmesg too... I have a sound card ESS Allegro 1930S and I haven't can configure it.... I have tried whith every drivers ein the kernel... If you know later, please tell me.. On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Jamie Heckford wrote: > Hi, > > Could anyone offer any guidance on getting the following sound card to work? > > It is in a Samsung GT8700 laptop - and I am using FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE. > > Windows identifies the card as an ESS Maestro PCI Audio (WDM) - IRQ 5 > > I have tried the sbc and pcm sound drivers - but with no joy. > > Here is some info at boot if it is of any help: > > pci0: (vendor=0x125d, dev=0x199a) at 12.0 > pci0: (vendor=0x11c1, dev=0x0444) at 13.1 > > Thanks in advance for your help > > -- > Jamie Heckford > Chief Network Engineer > Psi-Domain - Innovative Linux Solutions. Ask Us How. > > ===================================== > email: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk > web: http://www.psi-domain.co.uk/ > > tel: +44 (0)1737 789 246 > fax: +44 (0)1737 789 245 > mobile: +44 (0)7779 646 529 > ===================================== > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 8:54:37 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 08:54:34 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unix.megared.net.mx (megamail.megared.com.mx [200.52.207.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00E837B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (lcroker@localhost) by unix.megared.net.mx (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBFGscF52369; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:54:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lcroker@unix.megared.net.mx) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:54:38 -0600 (CST) From: Lu!s Croker To: Michel Talon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS Sound Driver In-Reply-To: <20001215174150.A4266@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Exactly.. ALSA or OpenSound Dirver... This is Commercial !! On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Michel Talon wrote: > On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 04:10:09PM +0000, Jamie Heckford wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Could anyone offer any guidance on getting the following sound card to work? > > > > It is in a Samsung GT8700 laptop - and I am using FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE. > > > > Windows identifies the card as an ESS Maestro PCI Audio (WDM) - IRQ 5 > > > I have seen recently a HP laptop with a maestro 3 audio card. I have been > able to run the sound card only with the Alsa drivers under Linux. > Apparently the FreeBSD drivers are able to run only the maestro 2 and 2E. > > -- > Michel Talon > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 9: 6:39 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 09:06:30 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CFD37B402 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id JAA21300; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:06:27 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda21298; Fri Dec 15 09:06:08 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eBFH62W00641; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:06:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdSKA621; Fri Dec 15 09:05:01 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eBFFlsv01640; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:47:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012151547.eBFFlsv01640@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdcl1633; Fri Dec 15 07:47:39 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: Dennis Glatting Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk problem under RELENG_4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Dec 2000 17:33:01 PST." <3A2EE8CD.18E817BB@software-munitions.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:47:39 -0800 Sender: cy@uumail.gov.bc.ca Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My server at home just started spitting out similar messages two days ago, after a power cycle. Other than a simple power cycle what had changed? No software changes had been implemented for two weeks and no hardware changes in over a year. Could the power cycle have damaged the 2940 or the affected disk? Possibly, however I power cycle this machine once a month. A recent earthquake may have loosened the cable, though I suspect not. Switching from automatic termination to low/low (in my case I only use the 50 pin internal bus) solved the problem. I'm almost betting that a change in humidity may be the culprit. To test this theory I'll set termination back to automatic this spring. Interesting to note that in my case it too was a Quantum drive. Search the -scsi archives. I read a comment that Quantum drives have a firmware bug that causes this. As upgrading firmware is riskier than changing a 2940 option, take a look at your termination option first. Also make Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC In message <3A2EE8CD.18E817BB@software-munitions.com>, Dennis Glatting writes: > > It could be my hardware but this problem started shortly after I > cvsupd against RELENG_4 a few weeks ago. I re-cvsupd a few days ago > but the problem persists. It could be my hardware, but FYI. > > dmesg output follows error. > > > > > Dec 6 17:12:54 btw /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): SCB 0xf - timed out in > Message-in phase, > SEQADDR == 0x10f > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: STACK == 0xdd, 0x5c, 0x15e, 0x174 > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: SXFRCTL0 == 0x80 > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: SCB count = 255 > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: QINFIFO entries: 22 80 68 7 104 69 65 99 > 21 55 27 92 17 1 18 > 39 95 8 97 36 46 54 100 31 98 59 23 84 4 41 28 26 94 44 10 3 0 5 102 > 81 83 20 19 63 13 101 > 2 9 29 91 37 64 108 14 25 6 109 67 66 49 57 119 30 52 48 106 16 > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: Waiting Queue entries: > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: Disconnected Queue entries: > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: QOUTFIFO entries: > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: Sequencer Free SCB List: 21 30 5 12 11 2 > 4 28 3 1 29 14 9 19 8 > 18 23 27 25 16 22 10 31 24 20 17 15 6 26 7 13 > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: Pending list: 16 106 48 52 30 119 57 49 > 66 67 109 6 25 14 108 > 64 37 91 29 9 2 101 13 63 19 20 83 81 102 5 0 3 10 44 94 26 28 41 4 84 > 23 59 98 31 100 54 > 46 36 97 8 95 39 18 1 17 92 27 55 21 99 65 69 104 7 68 80 22 15 > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: Kernel Free SCB list: 12 33 42 93 96 85 > 43 11 90 107 24 105 50 > 34 82 51 45 103 58 47 35 32 86 53 250 251 252 253 254 240 241 242 243 > 244 245 246 247 248 > 249 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 220 221 222 223 224 225 > 226 227 228 229 210 211 > 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 > 209 190 191 192 193 194 > 195 196 197 198 199 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 170 171 > 172 173 174 175 176 177 > 178 179 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 150 151 152 153 154 > 155 156 157 158 159 140 > 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 > 138 139 120 121 122 123 > 124 125 126 127 128 129 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 56 40 62 > 61 60 79 78 77 76 75 > 74 73 72 71 70 89 88 87 > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: sg[0] - Addr 0x8115000 : Length 4096 > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: sg[1] - Addr 0x68f6000 : Length 4096 > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): BDR message in message > buffer > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): SCB 0xf - timed out in > Message-in phase, > SEQADDR == 0x169 > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: STACK == 0x5c, 0x15e, 0x174, 0x2e > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: SXFRCTL0 == 0x80 > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: SCB count = 255 > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: QINFIFO entries: 22 80 68 7 104 69 65 99 > 21 55 27 92 17 1 18 > 39 95 8 97 36 46 54 100 31 98 59 23 84 4 41 28 26 94 44 10 3 0 5 102 > 81 83 20 19 63 13 101 > 2 9 29 91 37 64 108 14 25 6 109 67 66 49 57 119 30 52 48 106 16 > Dec 6 17:12:58 btw /kernel: Waiting Queue entries: > Dec 6 17:12:59 btw /kernel: Disconnected Queue entries: > Dec 6 17:12:59 btw /kernel: QOUTFIFO entries: > Dec 6 17:12:59 btw /kernel: Sequencer Free SCB List: 21 30 5 12 11 2 > 4 28 3 1 29 14 9 19 8 > 18 23 27 25 16 22 10 31 24 20 17 15 6 26 7 13 > Dec 6 17:12:59 btw /kernel: Pending list: 16 106 48 52 30 119 57 49 > 66 67 109 6 25 14 108 > 64 37 91 29 9 2 101 13 63 19 20 83 81 102 5 0 3 10 44 94 26 28 41 4 84 > 23 59 98 31 100 54 > 46 36 97 8 95 39 18 1 17 92 27 55 21 99 65 69 104 7 68 80 22 15 > Dec 6 17:12:59 btw /kernel: Kernel Free SCB list: 12 33 42 93 96 85 > 43 11 90 107 24 105 50 > 34 82 51 45 103 58 47 35 32 86 53 250 251 252 253 254 240 241 242 243 > 244 245 246 247 248 > 249 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 220 221 222 223 224 225 > 226 227 228 229 210 211 > 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 > 209 190 191 192 193 194 > 195 196 197 198 199 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 170 171 > 172 173 174 175 176 177 > 178 179 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 150 151 152 153 154 > 155 156 157 158 159 140 > 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 > 138 139 120 121 122 123 > 124 125 126 127 128 129 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 56 40 62 > 61 60 79 78 77 76 75 > 74 73 72 71 70 89 88 87 > Dec 6 17:12:59 btw /kernel: sg[0] - Addr 0x8115000 : Length 4096 > Dec 6 17:12:59 btw /kernel: sg[1] - Addr 0x68f6000 : Length 4096 > Dec 6 17:12:59 btw /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): no longer in timeout, > status = 34b > Dec 6 17:12:59 btw /kernel: ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 68 SCBs > aborted > > > > > > > > Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, > 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > reserved. > FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #22: Fri Dec 1 23:47:14 PST 2000 > root@btw:/usr/src/sys/compile/BTW > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (448.06-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 > > Features=0x183f9ff AT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR> > real memory = 268435456 (262144K bytes) > avail memory = 256126976 (250124K bytes) > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc044b000. > Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled > md0: Malloc disk > npx0: on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > pcib0: on motherboard > pci0: on pcib0 > pcib1: at device 1.0 on > pci0 > pci1: on pcib1 > pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 > isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci0: at device 7.1 on pci0 > atapci0: Busmastering DMA not supported > uhci0: port 0x1ca0-0x1cbf > irq 9 at device 7.2 on > pci0 > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > chip1: port 0x7000-0x700f > at device 7.3 on pci0 > xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x1cc0-0x1cff irq 11 at > device 13.0 on pci0 > xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:08:b0:3d:a6 > miibus0: on xl0 > nsphy0: on miibus0 > nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > ahc0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem > 0xf4000000-0xf4000fff > irq 10 at device 14.0 on pci0 > aic7899: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs > ahc1: port 0x1400-0x14ff mem > 0xf4001000-0xf4001fff > irq 15 at device 14.1 on pci0 > aic7899: Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs > xl1: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x1c00-0x1c7f mem > 0xf4003000-0xf400307f irq 15 > at device 15.0 on pci0 > xl1: Ethernet address: 00:50:04:d2:9f:c6 > miibus1: on xl1 > ukphy0: on miibus1 > ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > ahc2: port 0x1800-0x18ff mem > 0xf4002000-0xf4002fff irq 9 > at device 16.0 on pci0 > aic7880: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs > fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on > isa0 > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 > atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 > atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 > psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on > isa0 > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 > sio0: type 16550A > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 > ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode > ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold > lpt0: on ppbus0 > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ppi0: on ppbus0 > IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding > enabled, default to > deny, logging limited to 512 packets/entry by default > IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. > IP Filter: v3.4.8 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = enabled > Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle > sa0 at ahc2 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 > sa0: Removable Sequential Access > SCSI-CCS device > sa0: 3.300MB/s transfers > da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > da0: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged > Queueing Enabled > da0: 8759MB (17938986 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) > da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > da1: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged > Queueing Enabled > da1: 8759MB (17938986 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) > da2 at ahc1 bus 0 target 12 lun 0 > da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da2: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged > Queueing Enabled > da2: 8669MB (17755614 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1105C) > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a > da4 at ahc2 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 > da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da4: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da4: 2777MB (5688447 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 354C) > da3 at ahc2 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da3: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da3: 2777MB (5688447 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 354C) > vinum: loaded > vinum: reading configuration from /dev/da4s1e > vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da3s1e > xl0: promiscuous mode enabled > cd0 at ahc2 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device > cd0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15) > cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not > present > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 9:58:53 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 09:58:51 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB3D37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id eBFHwns96969 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:58:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.11.1/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id eBFHwlm15603 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:58:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04451 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:58:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michel) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:58:48 +0100 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS Sound Driver Message-ID: <20001215185848.C4414@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001215174150.A4266@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 10:54:38AM -0600, Lu!s Croker wrote: > > Exactly.. ALSA or OpenSound Dirver... This is Commercial !! > At least Alsa is non commercial. I have found source code on the net, downloaded, compiled it and made it work. I have not seen any indication of commercial license. -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 10:27:20 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 10:27:19 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web9103.mail.yahoo.com (web9103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.128.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AD0637B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:27:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20001215182719.53675.qmail@web9103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.16.37.82] by web9103.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:27:19 PST Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:27:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Qiu To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG auth 7022552d subscribe freebsd-stable \ ray_qiu@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 10:40:41 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 10:40:37 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web9106.mail.yahoo.com (web9106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.128.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62BDA37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:40:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20001215184037.21723.qmail@web9106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.16.37.82] by web9106.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:40:37 PST Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:40:37 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Qiu Subject: kernel message To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, First, sorry for the last e-mail. I clicked the wrong link. :) I got one problem here. I am using the 4.2-Stable. The dmesg output always saying "no such service". But no other error was found. How can I know what service the kernel is referring to? I included the "OPTIONS DIAGNOSTIC" in the kernel config but it didn't help. Any help is appreciated! The dmesg output is here: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Wed Dec 13 15:45:35 PST 2000 root@qiu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/QIU Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 800033910 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (800.03-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x622 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0400000 real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) avail memory = 127627264 (124636K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02e7000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib2: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib2 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xc000-0xc00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 7.2 irq 12 pci0: at 7.3 irq 12 pcm0: port 0xd400-0xd403,0xd000-0xd003,0xcc00-0xccff irq 5 at device 7.5 on pci0 dc0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xd8009000-0xd80090ff irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci0 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:d4:2b:6c miibus0: on dc0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto dc1: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xd8008000-0xd80080ff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 dc1: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:d4:16:40 miibus1: on dc1 ukphy1: on miibus1 ukphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pcm1: mem 0xd8000000-0xd8007fff irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci0 pci0: at 11.0 irq 12 pcib1: on motherboard pci2: on pcib1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A IP Filter: v3.4.8 initialized. Default = block all, Logging = enabled ad0: 19541MB [39703/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66 acd0: DVD-ROM at ata1-slave using UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a module_register: module netgraph already exists! linker_file_sysinit "netgraph.ko" failed to register! 17 no such service no such service no such service no such service no such service no such service no such service no such service no such service no such service . . . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 10:55:22 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 10:55:21 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.netset.com (zeus.netset.com [64.40.192.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7853537B402 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from diamond (kaygee.users.netset.com [64.40.199.178]) by zeus.netset.com (8.10.2/8.10.2-zeus) with SMTP id eBFItHm16114 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:55:17 -0500 Message-ID: <00ab01c066c9$fc3ba1c0$0445a8c0@private.solutionsforyou.com> Reply-To: "Kartic Krishnamurthy" From: "Kartic Krishnamurthy" To: Subject: Staying Stable Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:05:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have questions about "staying stable". 1. What is the recommended frequency of cvsuping the source tree to stay stable with freebsd? 2. Right now I am at 4.2 Stable (from 4.0R). When freebsd reaches, say 5.1 Stable, what steps need I take to stay stable with the latest (5.1) stable? Can I just keep cvsuping and hope to be stable with the latest version? I understand that one can stay stable with 3-Stable or 4-Stable without having upgrade to the next higher version. (please correct me if I am wrong). Also if this also the wrong "attitude" let me know :-) Thanks, --Kartic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 11: 6:49 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 11:06:48 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rattler.gsfc.nasa.gov (rattler-f.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.245.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC1237B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:06:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from rattler.gsfc.nasa.gov (desolation.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.167.98]) by rattler.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11182 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:06:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A3A6A71.FB4E06A3@rattler.gsfc.nasa.gov> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:01:05 -0500 From: Linh Duong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-questions To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 11: 8:56 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 11:08:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ssabsd.csw.net (ssabsd.csw.net [209.136.201.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5084537B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:08:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by ssabsd.csw.net (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 6E5F613; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:08:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:08:51 -0600 From: Scott Lambert To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: /etc/periodic.conf daily_status_mailq_shorten="YES" broken? Message-ID: <20001215130851.A44717@ssabsd.csw.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: lambert@ssabsd.csw.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I'm not seeing any output from /etc/periodic/daily/440.status-mailq (v. 1.4.2.2) when I try to use the short form output by specifying daily_status_mailq_shorten="YES" in /etc/periodic.conf Maybe I'm not holding my mouth right. It wouldn't be the first time. Anyway, I "fixed" it to give me some actual output and to be configurable for how many messages to a unique addresses are required before it will output that line. This is probably the wrong fix, but it's the best I know how to do. Diffs are attached. -- Scott Lambert lambert@cswnet.com --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="440.status-mailq.diff" *** 440.status-mailq.orig Fri Dec 15 10:36:47 2000 --- 440.status-mailq Fri Dec 15 10:41:50 2000 *************** *** 34,40 **** sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | ! awk '$1 > 1 {print $1, $2}');; *) mailq;; esac | tee /dev/stderr | fgrep -v 'mqueue is empty' | wc -l) --- 34,41 ---- sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | ! awk "\$1 > $daily_mailq_shorten_min {print \$1, \$2}"); ! echo "$rc";; *) mailq;; esac | tee /dev/stderr | fgrep -v 'mqueue is empty' | wc -l) --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="periodic.conf.diff" *** periodic.conf.dist Fri Dec 15 12:47:52 2000 --- periodic.conf Fri Dec 15 12:49:45 2000 *************** *** 106,111 **** --- 106,114 ---- # 440.status-mailq daily_status_mailq_enable="YES" # Check mail status daily_status_mailq_shorten="NO" # Shorten output + daily_mailq_shorten_min=1 # Number of uniq addrs + # in output must be > + # this number # 450.status-security daily_status_security_enable="YES" # Security check --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 11:18:26 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 11:18:23 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from marius.org (marius.org [216.88.115.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F27537B402 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from marius@localhost) by marius.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eBFJIG191888; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:18:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:18:16 -0600 From: Marius Strom To: Kartic Krishnamurthy Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying Stable Message-ID: <20001215131816.A86117@marius.org> Mail-Followup-To: Kartic Krishnamurthy , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <00ab01c066c9$fc3ba1c0$0445a8c0@private.solutionsforyou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00ab01c066c9$fc3ba1c0$0445a8c0@private.solutionsforyou.com>; from kaygee@netset.com on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 02:05:25PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As far as a frequency of "staying stable", there's not really a set deal. Depends on how much downtime you can afford due to reboots, I figure. When 5.x is released, you'll have to modify your /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile to reflect RELENG_5 instead of RELENG_4. On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 02:05:25PM -0500, Kartic Krishnamurthy wrote: > Hello, > > I have questions about "staying stable". > > 1. What is the recommended frequency of cvsuping the source tree to stay > stable with freebsd? > > 2. Right now I am at 4.2 Stable (from 4.0R). When freebsd reaches, say 5.1 > Stable, what steps need I take to stay stable with the latest (5.1) stable? > Can I just keep cvsuping and hope to be stable with the latest version? I > understand that one can stay stable with 3-Stable or 4-Stable without having > upgrade to the next higher version. (please correct me if I am wrong). Also > if this also the wrong "attitude" let me know :-) > > Thanks, > --Kartic > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Marius Strom Professional Geek/Unix System Administrator URL: http://www.marius.org http://www.marius.org/marius.pgp 0x55DE53E4 "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a mini-van full of DLT tapes traveling down the highway at 65 miles per hour..." -Andrew Tanenbaum, "Computer Networks" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 11:19:45 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 11:19:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cswnet.com (mail.cswnet.com [209.136.192.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177EE37B402 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssaos2 (ssaos2.csw.net [209.136.201.13]) by mail.cswnet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FEA95D067 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:19:42 -0600 (CST) From: lambert@cswnet.com Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:19:39 -0600 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20001215155220.J83523@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Subject: Re: Problems booting 486/66 after 3.1 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.10a c10 Message-Id: <20001215191942.0FEA95D067@mail.cswnet.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In <20001215155220.J83523@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au>, on 12/15/2000 at 03:52 PM, Peter Jeremy said: >On 13 Dec, lambert@cswnet.com wrote: >> I have a Micronics 486 VLB motherboard (unknown exact model) that doesn't >> like FreeBSD beyond 3.x. 3.1-RELEASE works fine on this motherboard but >> 4.x versions reboot immediately following the display of the Copyright >> notices and FreeBSD version line. >My 486 isn't having any problems with -current, and I know I did run 4.x >on it - but I can't remember exactly when. >I presume you have correctly upgraded the bootblocks and /boot/loader. >Does "boot -v" give any additional details? Currently, I am just trying to boot the 4.x install floppies. Boot -v doesn't seem to provide any more output. -- Scott Lambert lambert@cswnet.com Systems and Security Administrator CSW Net, Inc. ================================================================ Written: Friday, December 15, 2000 - 01:17 PM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 11:41:41 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 11:41:37 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from arachna.worldonline.es (arachna.worldonline.es [212.7.33.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0197A37B69F for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:41:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (pc252.worldonline.es [212.7.35.252]) by arachna.worldonline.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B78FE9FB for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 20:41:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from wol38.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct (IDENT:jesusr@wol38.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct [10.34.0.38]) by belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBFJf3B29123 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 20:41:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jesusr@worldonline.es) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 20:41:27 +0100 (CET) From: Jesus Rodriguez X-Sender: jesusr@wol38.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Trap 12/Squid/Fbsd 4.1.1 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Please, could some one give me a description of this fatal trap: ? Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address=0x14 fault code =supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer =0x8:0xc01392eb stack pointer=0x10:0xd5177a38 frame pointer=0x10:0xd5177aa0 code segment=base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b =DPL 0,pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 Processor eflags=interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=0 current process=199(squid) interrupt mask= trap number =12 panic:page fault syncing disk ....................... P.S. FreeBSD 4.1.1 + Squid + cvsupd Thanks in advance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 12:16:13 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 12:16:07 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12BEE37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:16:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12726 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 2000 20:16:05 -0000 Received: from p3ee21663.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.226.22.99) by mail.gmx.net (mail07) with SMTP; 15 Dec 2000 20:16:05 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12061 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:29:04 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:29:04 +0100 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP not deleting ip's Message-ID: <20001215192904.L253@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20001214161733.A57811@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20001214161733.A57811@lunatic.oneinsane.net>; from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 04:17:33PM -0800 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 16:17 -0800, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > > I have a FreeBSD box running 4.1-R running as a Gateway machine > for a small LAN. It is using ijppp for the connection and all > is working well.. I got to looking at it and noticed that > everytime it disconnects it does not delete the IP address it > was assigned to before. So when it connects the next time and > gets a different IP it just adds it to tun0. Look at "man 8 ppp" and search for "iface clear". I have - "iface clear" plus some "!bg echo '...' > /dev/speaker" in ppp.linkup and - "set ifaddr 'as in ppp.conf'" and "iface clear" plus some noise in ppp.linkdown This will keep the one and only currently active IP on the interface and flush the obsolete ones. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 12:21:18 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 12:21:16 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890A237B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:21:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00476; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:20:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:20:29 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trap 12/Squid/Fbsd 4.1.1 Message-ID: <20001215152029.A456@blackhelicopters.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from jesusr@worldonline.es on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 08:41:27PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, This really isn't enough information for us to determine the problem. You need to configure a debugging kernel. Please check the Handbook for exact details. It might look intimidating, but it's not that hard. ==ml On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 08:41:27PM +0100, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > Hello, > > Please, could some one give me a description of this fatal trap: ? > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual address=0x14 > fault code =supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer =0x8:0xc01392eb > stack pointer=0x10:0xd5177a38 > frame pointer=0x10:0xd5177aa0 > code segment=base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > =DPL 0,pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > Processor eflags=interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=0 > current process=199(squid) > interrupt mask= > trap number =12 > panic:page fault > > syncing disk ....................... > > > P.S. FreeBSD 4.1.1 + Squid + cvsupd > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 13:14:19 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 13:14:17 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsdhome.dyndns.org (unknown [24.25.2.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B2A37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:14:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from vger.bsdhome.com (vger [192.168.220.2]) by bsdhome.dyndns.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBFLE4t17196; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:14:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bsd@bsdhome.com) Received: (from bsd@localhost) by vger.bsdhome.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBFLE2177504; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:14:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bsd) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:14:02 -0500 From: Brian Dean To: Andrey Lakhno Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel panics Message-ID: <20001215161402.A77447@vger.bsdhome.com> References: <20001213122916.A15772@dnepr.net> <20001214120704.A70810@vger.bsdhome.com> <20001215100740.A29967@dnepr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001215100740.A29967@dnepr.net>; from land@dnepr.net on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 10:07:43AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 10:07:43AM +0200, Andrey Lakhno wrote: > FreeBSD host.domain 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #3: Thu Dec 14 10:57:42 EET 2000 root@host.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/KERN i386 Ok, thanks. We still need the info that Alfred asked you about. For that, please see: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kerneldebug.html If you can get us a crash dump, that would be great. A traceback would be helpful, but a crash dump would be even better. Thanks, -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 13:33: 4 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 13:33:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gye.impsat.net.ec (gye.impsat.net.ec [200.31.30.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8CE37B6A1 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ghbg.gye.impsat.net.ec (dialgye240.impsat.net.ec [200.31.31.45]) by gye.impsat.net.ec (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA23049 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:29:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005801c066de$6378ae00$2d1f1fc8@gye.impsat.net.ec> From: "Shadow man" To: Subject: newbie questions BSD Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:30:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01C066B4.66F5B8E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C066B4.66F5B8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable why freeBSD IS so powerful and free ? what are the freeBSD colection ports ? freeBSD can manage winmodems ? freeBSD can play DVD ? 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why freeBSD IS so powerful and free = ?
 
what are the freeBSD colection ports = ?
 
freeBSD can manage winmodems = ?
 
freeBSD can play DVD ?
 
Regards
Alan
------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C066B4.66F5B8E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 13:52:49 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 13:52:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DA437B404 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:52:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (Switch-2.1.0/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id eBFLpuA62103; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:51:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:51:55 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Shadow man Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newbie questions BSD In-Reply-To: <005801c066de$6378ae00$2d1f1fc8@gye.impsat.net.ec> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Shadow man wrote: > why freeBSD IS so powerful and free ? Because lots of cool people volunteer their spare time to make it that way. > what are the freeBSD colection ports ? See: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ > freeBSD can manage winmodems ? Theoritically, it's possible, but winmodems require special drivers, and to my knowledge, none of those have been written for FreeBSD yet. > freeBSD can play DVD ? Don't know, I have a dedicated DVD player for that... Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 14: 6:46 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 14:06:44 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A828937B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:06:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBFM6gs93615; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:06:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA71740; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:06:41 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200012152206.PAA71740@harmony.village.org> To: Danny Braniss Subject: Re: make install KERNEL Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:34:03 +0200." References: Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:06:41 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: imp@harmony.village.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Danny Braniss writes: : why are userland programs installed when installing a kernel? It is a bug that's been fixed in -current. For now they are just some man pages and simple shell scripts. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 14:28: 9 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 14:28:08 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.libero.it (smtp3.libero.it [193.70.192.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50C337B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:28:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from MoonSpell.NewLuxor (151.33.119.193) by smtp3.libero.it; 15 Dec 2000 23:28:06 +0100 Received: from localhost (flag@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MoonSpell.NewLuxor (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBFIb5502192; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:37:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from flag@libero.it) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:37:05 +0100 (CET) From: flag X-Sender: flag@localhost To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: danh@gelatinous.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" In-Reply-To: <20001211121635.F16205@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * danh@gelatinous.com [001211 11:50] wrote: > > Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates > > on my / partition? > > Yes and no. uhhhm....anyway i'm unable to set softupdates on / cause tunefs needs a umounted partition and / is always mounted... how have you done it? thanks Paolo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 14:28:16 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 14:28:12 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.libero.it (smtp3.libero.it [193.70.192.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B856237B404 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:28:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from MoonSpell.NewLuxor (151.33.119.193) by smtp3.libero.it; 15 Dec 2000 23:28:09 +0100 Received: from localhost (flag@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MoonSpell.NewLuxor (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBFIjN502203; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:45:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from flag@libero.it) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:45:23 +0100 (CET) From: flag X-Sender: flag@localhost To: Nicolas Souchu Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Parallel ZIP patch for better mode detection In-Reply-To: <20001214152635.B16808@wiliam.alcove-int> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Nicolas Souchu wrote: > Hi, > > Here is a patch against -stable /sys/dev/ppbus for better ZIP/ZIP+ > mode detection. I've tested ZIP, but don't have any ZIP+ :( > > Could some of you approve vpo and imm drivers for me? Can I gain any speed-boost installing this patch? The big problem with the parallel zip is that, while you are transferring data from/to the zip, the copy process get the 100% of the cpu and the system stay unusable until the end of the zip operation...very sad...=( Paolo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 14:32:15 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 14:32:13 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4474F37B402 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id eBFMW7q26562; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:32:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:32:07 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: flag Cc: danh@gelatinous.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" Message-ID: <20001215143207.I19572@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20001211121635.F16205@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from flag@libero.it on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 07:37:05PM +0100 Sender: bright@fw.wintelcom.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * flag [001215 14:28] wrote: > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > * danh@gelatinous.com [001211 11:50] wrote: > > > Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates > > > on my / partition? > > > > Yes and no. > > uhhhm....anyway i'm unable to set softupdates on / cause tunefs needs a > umounted partition and / is always mounted... > > how have you done it? 1) boot into single user mode -or- 2) add the command to tunefs to /etc/rc before the switch to multiuser mode. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 14:38:53 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 14:38:50 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482EF37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:38:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (presence@shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA31984; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:38:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from presence@churchofinformationwarfare.org) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:38:41 -0600 (CST) From: Reverend K Kanno X-Sender: presence@shell-3.enteract.com To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: flag , danh@gelatinous.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" In-Reply-To: <20001215143207.I19572@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * flag [001215 14:28] wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > > * danh@gelatinous.com [001211 11:50] wrote: > > > > Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates > > > > on my / partition? > > > > > > Yes and no. > > > > uhhhm....anyway i'm unable to set softupdates on / cause tunefs needs a > > umounted partition and / is always mounted... > > > > how have you done it? I booted single and did a umount -a and then mount -o ro /dev/d0as1a (or whatever your root slice is) / and was then able to run tunefs ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== The Exploding Fruit Challenge! Rev. K. Kanno www.energybeam.com blowup-fruit@energybeam.com ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 14:42: 2 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 14:41:59 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tesla.salk.edu (tesla.salk.edu [198.202.70.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6721B37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:41:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from merckx.salk.edu (merckx.salk.edu [198.202.70.90]) by tesla.salk.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eBFMflw02008; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:41:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:41:44 -0800 (PST) From: Jorge Aldana To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: flag , , Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" In-Reply-To: <20001215143207.I19572@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So to keep Softupdates active on all boot ups, you have to re-execute "tunefs -n enable /" or "tunefs -n enable /usr"? Otherwise its not active on the partition? Jorge On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * flag [001215 14:28] wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > > * danh@gelatinous.com [001211 11:50] wrote: > > > > Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates > > > > on my / partition? > > > > > > Yes and no. > > > > uhhhm....anyway i'm unable to set softupdates on / cause tunefs needs a > > umounted partition and / is always mounted... > > > > how have you done it? > > 1) boot into single user mode > -or- > 2) add the command to tunefs to /etc/rc before the switch to multiuser mode. > > -- > -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] > "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 14:47:44 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 14:47:42 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5ED37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:47:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eBFMlg727583; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:47:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:47:42 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200012152247.eBFMlg727583@earth.backplane.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New performance patch available for testing on stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The URL: http://apollo.backplane.com/FreeBSD4/ This patch reworks the pageout daemon and the buf_daemon. It is based on my previous patch but hopefully has the kinks worked out. The patch is for -stable only, I will have a -current patch tonight. The main change is to the buf_daemon. I ripped out the dynamic speedup / slowdown code because it just wasn't working. I replaced it with code to track the amount of I/O in-progress in order to be able to limit the flush rate based on that. I also ripped out the non-working hysteresis for waking up the buf_daemon and put in real hysteresis, and I ripped out the artificial limitations on the number of buffers that could be flushed per wakeup (just like I ripped out the maxlaunder limitation in the pageout daemon in the last patch), and instead flush until the low water mark is reached, using the runningbufspace (bytes in transit to the I/O device) to limit the flush rate. In my testing, these changes lead to much, much smoother operation in heavily loaded situations and also appears to improve the write rate: 4.2-STABLE: (dd'ing to a CCD stripe of two SCSI drives) serv02:/data1# dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=32k count=49152 49152+0 records in 49152+0 records out 1610612736 bytes transferred in 34.506011 secs (46676295 bytes/sec) 4.2-STABLE + patches: (dd'ing to a CCD stripe of two SCSI drives) serv01:/data1# dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=32k count=49152 49152+0 records in 49152+0 records out 1610612736 bytes transferred in 27.995698 secs (57530722 bytes/sec) The current patchset will pageout a little more then 4.2-RELEASE, but hopefully to the benefit of the system rather then the detriment. This is because I ripped out the two-pass inactive queue scan in the pageout daemon that was skipping dirty pages in the first pass (giving them too much priority) and replaced it with a one-pass scan. I am slowly making my way to per-(disk)-device I/O pipelining. At the moment the pipelining is system-wide. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 14:48:55 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 14:48:53 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E5E37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:48:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eBFMmkn27602; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:48:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:48:46 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200012152248.eBFMmkn27602@earth.backplane.com> To: Jorge Aldana Cc: Alfred Perlstein , flag , , Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :So to keep Softupdates active on all boot ups, you have to re-execute :"tunefs -n enable /" or "tunefs -n enable /usr"? Otherwise its not active :on the partition? : :Jorge Once you turn softupdates on with tunefs, it's on for good. Of course, your kernel has to be compiled with the SOFTUPDATES option to actually run softupdates. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 15:18: 3 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 15:18:00 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4FC37B69C for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:18:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBFNHgE33101; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:17:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:18:00 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: flag Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, danh@gelatinous.com, Alfred Perlstein Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 15-Dec-00 flag wrote: > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > >> * danh@gelatinous.com [001211 11:50] wrote: >> > Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates >> > on my / partition? >> >> Yes and no. > > uhhhm....anyway i'm unable to set softupdates on / cause tunefs needs a > umounted partition and / is always mounted... Umm, if / is mounted read-only you can tunefs it. i.e., in single user mode after boot, or drop to single user and use 'mount -o ro -u /' then do the tunefs. However, it doesn't buy you much on /, and there is still some risk with it, so I'd not recommend it for /. > how have you done it? > > thanks > > Paolo -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 16:21:39 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 16:21:37 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dycom.net (unknown [63.226.241.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBDF37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:21:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mars.ninja.cx (cust33.max2.seattle-k56.aa.net [205.199.142.33]) by mail.dycom.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id FAA30689; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 05:10:41 -0800 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:21:30 -0800 (PST) From: Kevin Downey X-Sender: kevin@mars.ninja.cx To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" In-Reply-To: <20001215143207.I19572@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * flag [001215 14:28] wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > > * danh@gelatinous.com [001211 11:50] wrote: > > > > Hi, is there anything wrong with enabling softupdates > > > > on my / partition? > > > > > > Yes and no. > > > > uhhhm....anyway i'm unable to set softupdates on / cause tunefs needs a > > umounted partition and / is always mounted... > > > > how have you done it? > > 1) boot into single user mode > -or- > 2) add the command to tunefs to /etc/rc before the switch to multiuser mode. > I set / to read only and was able to run tunefs on it -Kevin Downey Q: Why do ducks have flat feet? A: To stamp out forest fires. Q: Why do elephants have flat feet? A: To stamp out flaming ducks. :(){ :|:&};: http://kevin.is.a.zombie.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 18:23: 1 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 18:22:58 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.clones.com (unknown [216.70.178.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C25E37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:22:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (gross@localhost) by mail.clones.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11748; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:18:21 -0800 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:18:21 -0800 (PST) From: Glendon Gross To: Greg Lehey Cc: Mike Nowlin , Warner Losh , Sam Zamarripa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated) In-Reply-To: <20001215175842.B91832@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there anyone interested in rewriting that "fake" partition table, or is that requirement satisfied by the non-dedicated format? I actually like sysinstall, now that I am used to it, but it would be aesthetically more pleasing to be able to use the dedicated format. I am curious if there could be some improvement to that "fake" partition table so it would boot from any BIOS, even if it means we have to write some "proprietary" signatures there. Is it possible to modify it so it will trick the BIOS's that are currently failing to boot? On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 15 December 2000 at 2:20:40 -0500, Mike Nowlin wrote: > > > >> Does that mean that such BIOS's are proprietary in the sense that they > >> don't recognize the dedicated format? > > > > There are times when the politically-correct of the world use the term > > "proprietary" when they actually mean "dumb" or "really badly > > designed". But yes, that's what it means... :) > > To be fair, the dedicated fake partition table format is a hack. It's > too difficult to figure out what the real geometry is, so it invents > one which should "do the job". Some BIOSes check the table and find > it wanting. It's a grey area. > > Greg > -- > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 18:23:28 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 18:23:26 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www3.infolink.com.br (www3.infolink.com.br [200.255.108.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6E237B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from diala11 (unverified [200.255.108.11]) by www3.infolink.com.br (Vircom SMTPRS 4.2.181) with SMTP id for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:23:18 -0300 Message-ID: <002601c06707$280f0980$0b6cffc8@infolink.com.br> From: "Antonio Carlos Pina" To: Subject: Bridge + Firewall + Dummynet (all Working) + ... routing ???? Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:23:19 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4029.2901 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4029.2901 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I would like to know if anybody here did tried that before: I have a Bridge+Firewall+Dummynet box working wonderfully (4.2-Stable) between one of our networks and a CISCO router (a default gateway) to Internet. We have chosen the Bridge model because using the transparent bridge we didn't even change all "default gateway" in all boxes inside our Network. Is there any way (perhaps using Divert and Natd ?) to implement some basic static routes in this bridge ? The reason is I nowadays we have many IP classes and I feel it is a shame that one packet must go through the bridge to reach the Router, than come back through the bridge again to be delivered to an Access Server, for instance. The way I know to achieve that is changing the bridge's IP address and disabling the bridge code (assigning another IP address to the Router), but before I go this way, I'm trying to keep just one hop to get out of my Network ;-) Best Regards, Antonio Carlos Pina To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 18:39:31 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 18:39:27 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.clones.com (unknown [216.70.178.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C850C37B400; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (gross@localhost) by mail.clones.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11830; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:40:38 -0800 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:40:38 -0800 (PST) From: Glendon Gross To: Nader Turki Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry! Unable to transfer In-Reply-To: <3A3A3D00.F2FFFC17@adelphia.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got the same errors. On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Nader Turki wrote: > Hello all, > I just got the FreeBSD 4.2-R ISO for the 2nd time from > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.2-install.iso > > While installing the XFree86 Distribution I get few errors that says: > > Unable to transfer the PC98-Servers/X9480 distribution from acd0c. > Do you want to try to retrive again? > Yes No > > I get the same message with thr following: > PC98-Servers/X9EGC > PC98-Servers/X9GAq > PC98-Servers/X9GAN > PC98-Servers/X9LPIw > PC98-Servers/X9MGA > PC98-Servers/X9NKV > PC98-Servers/X9NS3 > PC98-Servers/X9SPW > PC98-Servers/X9SVG > PC98-Servers/X9TGU > PC98-Servers/X9WEP > PC98-Servers/X9WS > PC98-Servers/X9WSN > > and: > > Xlk98 > X9set > > I just installed FreeBSD 4.1.1-R and didn't get those errors. I'm sure > it's not from my CDROM. > I mean is that somethin' normal? should i just ignore those files? > > Thank you, > > -Nader > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 19:29:59 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 19:29:56 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9856737B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:29:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA87023; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 04:29:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Sender: des@ofug.org X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: "Kartic Krishnamurthy" Cc: Subject: Re: Staying Stable References: <00ab01c066c9$fc3ba1c0$0445a8c0@private.solutionsforyou.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Dec 2000 04:29:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Kartic Krishnamurthy"'s message of "Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:05:25 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Kartic Krishnamurthy" writes: > 1. What is the recommended frequency of cvsuping the source tree to stay > stable with freebsd? If your machine is a production server: whenever we fix a bug that you know is or might affect your system, and the consequences of that bug are worse than the downtime necessary for upgrading. If it's just your home playbox: whenever you're bored and have nothing better to do. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 19:31:17 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 19:31:15 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D85237B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA87037; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 04:31:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Sender: des@ofug.org X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trap 12/Squid/Fbsd 4.1.1 References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Dec 2000 04:31:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: Jesus Rodriguez's message of "Fri, 15 Dec 2000 20:41:27 +0100 (CET)" Message-ID: Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jesus Rodriguez writes: > Please, could some one give me a description of this fatal trap: ? Please refer to section 13.13 of the FAQ. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 19:38:21 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 19:38:19 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EB537B400; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA87064; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 04:38:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Sender: des@ofug.org X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: John Baldwin Cc: flag , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, danh@gelatinous.com, Alfred Perlstein Subject: Re: softupdates and "/" References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Dec 2000 04:38:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: John Baldwin's message of "Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:18:00 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin writes: > Umm, if / is mounted read-only you can tunefs it. i.e., in single user mode > after boot, or drop to single user and use 'mount -o ro -u /' then do the > tunefs. However, it doesn't buy you much on /, and there is still some risk > with it, so I'd not recommend it for /. On the contrary - if you have a fairly standard setup with /tmp on the root partition, you will benefit a lot from enabling softupdates on it. As to the risks, nowadays I'd say the odds of the softupdates code exhibiting a noticeable bug are about the same (or less) as those of a physical drive failure. YMMV. 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------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C06759.11165380-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Dec 15 23:28:56 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 23:28:53 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-nl1.origin-it.com (gw-nl1.origin-it.com [193.79.128.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C3637B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:28:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.de.origin-it.com (localhost.origin-it.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl1.origin-it.com with ESMTP id IAA21556; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:27:16 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-de1.origin-it.com(172.16.188.53) by gw-nl1.origin-it.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma021554; Sat, 16 Dec 00 08:27:16 +0100 Received: from mailhub.de.origin-it.com (mailhub.de.origin-it.com [172.16.189.20]) by mail.de.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id IAA03790; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:27:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (galaxy.de.cp.philips.com [130.143.166.29]) by mailhub.de.origin-it.com (8.11.1/8.11.1/hmo23oct00) with ESMTP id eBG7RAH38574; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:27:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/hmo14aug98) id IAA28032; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:27:08 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200012160727.IAA28032@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Subject: Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated) In-Reply-To: from Glendon Gross at "Dec 15, 2000 6:18:21 pm" To: gross@clones.com (Glendon Gross) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:27:08 +0100 (MET) Cc: grog@lemis.com, mike@argos.org, imp@village.org, samz@oz.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Helge Oldach X-Address: Atos Origin, Billstrasse 80, D-20539 Hamburg, Germany X-Phone: +49 40 7886 464, Fax: +49 40 7886 235, Mobile: +49 172 4515513 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Glendon Gross: >Is there anyone interested in rewriting that "fake" partition table, Please look at the thread with the same topic three weeks ago. I stated that it wouldn't be possible because there is a fundamental disagreement: BIOS standard demands that the first *sector* always remains reserved. However DD mode only reserves the first *block* and starts with the actual contents at the second block. This (intentionally) violates BIOS standards. Though many BIOSsen will happily accept it, some will get picky and refuse to boot a DD disk due to standards violation. If you would leave the first *sector* reserved with DD mode, you are basically left with the layout of non-DD mode, so this is pointless. >or is that requirement satisfied by the non-dedicated format? Exactly. Non-DD follows the BIOS standards, so it will serve you fine, at the "expense" of losing some few kB of disk space. >it >would be aesthetically more pleasing to be able to use the >dedicated format. Fully agree. However there are things in the BIOS architecture that don't care about aesthetics. After all, this is the PC world. Helge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 1:20:16 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 01:20:10 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B26537B400; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 147DVc-0006AZ-00; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 09:20:04 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBG9K2T07746; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:20:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:20:02 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Glendon Gross Cc: Nader Turki , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorry! Unable to transfer Message-ID: <20001216102002.A7361@freebie.demon.nl> References: <3A3A3D00.F2FFFC17@adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from gross@clones.com on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 06:40:38PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 06:40:38PM -0800, Glendon Gross wrote: I guess the PC98 servers are not on the first cdrom but on one of the other 3. PC98 is only used to drive some Japanese standard for PCs so just don't bother I'd say. W/ > > I got the same errors. > > On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Nader Turki wrote: > > > Hello all, > > I just got the FreeBSD 4.2-R ISO for the 2nd time from > > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.2-install.iso > > > > While installing the XFree86 Distribution I get few errors that says: > > > > Unable to transfer the PC98-Servers/X9480 distribution from acd0c. > > Do you want to try to retrive again? > > Yes No > > > > I get the same message with thr following: > > PC98-Servers/X9EGC > > PC98-Servers/X9GAq > > PC98-Servers/X9GAN > > PC98-Servers/X9LPIw > > PC98-Servers/X9MGA > > PC98-Servers/X9NKV > > PC98-Servers/X9NS3 > > PC98-Servers/X9SPW > > PC98-Servers/X9SVG > > PC98-Servers/X9TGU > > PC98-Servers/X9WEP > > PC98-Servers/X9WS > > PC98-Servers/X9WSN > > > > and: > > > > Xlk98 > > X9set > > > > I just installed FreeBSD 4.1.1-R and didn't get those errors. I'm sure > > it's not from my CDROM. > > I mean is that somethin' normal? should i just ignore those files? > > > > Thank you, > > > > -Nader > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 5:26:43 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 05:26:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from brave.vnet (IP1A0755.aic.mesh.ad.jp [202.247.45.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D3D37B402 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 05:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brave.vnet (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBGDP4c00923; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:25:09 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from daichi@ongs.gr.jp) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:25:04 +0900 (JST) From: Daichi GOTO To: Alex Povolotsky Subject: Re: Problem with video-CDs Cc: gnb@itga.com.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Mikko Tyolajarvi In-Reply-to: <20001215181759.B11528@runaway.2sun.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJGYkOhsoQiAxLjAwMA==?= Organization: =?iso-2022-jp?B?T05HUyAbJEIzK0gvSXQbKEI=?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <84786045.976973104779.JavaMail.daichi@localhost> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:56:39PM -0800, Mikko Tyolajarvi wrote: > > A search for "VCD" should have pointed you to some patches at > > . I don't know if they will > > work, but it might be worth a try. > > It should be "applied" manually as of 4.X, but than it works. > > Alex. Yeah, me too. That works fine. Daichi T.GOTO(ONGS) http://www.ongs.net/daichi, daichi@ongs.gr.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 8:14:12 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 08:14:09 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A0337B402 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:14:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA88954; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:14:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Sender: des@ofug.org X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Helge Oldach Cc: gross@clones.com (Glendon Gross), grog@lemis.com, mike@argos.org, imp@village.org, samz@oz.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated) References: <200012160727.IAA28032@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Dec 2000 17:14:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: Helge Oldach's message of "Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:27:08 +0100 (MET)" Message-ID: Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Helge Oldach writes: > BIOS standard demands that the first *sector* always remains reserved. > However DD mode only reserves the first *block* and starts with the > actual contents at the second block. This (intentionally) violates BIOS > standards. Though many BIOSsen will happily accept it, some will get > picky and refuse to boot a DD disk due to standards violation. I think you're confusing terms here. What the Unix world calls a block is a disk sector. What you are calling a sector is either a track or a cylinder (I can't read your mind from here, you're too far away). DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 9:10:11 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 09:10:09 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moon.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0B037B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 09:10:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by moon.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10678 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:07:57 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: mozilla and 4.2-RELEASE Message-ID: <976986477.3a3ba16db730c@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:07:57 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Yesterday I installed vanilla 4.2 (the second revision of iso image) on a new computer, and then, after updating the ports tree I did: cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla; make install several hours later it finished and installed the mozilla package. Running it produces a segmentation fault, running mozilla-bin even creates a core file. I looked at it, and seems that perhaps the stack was mutilated, since I didn't see anything unusual there (I can post it later, if anyone is interested). Now, at home I'm running mozilla which I've compiled under 4.1-STABLE and I'm runnning 4.2-RELEASE, so, since no patches to mozilla port were added since then, I guess that it's something wrong either with the compiler or linker (or both). Like I said, I run old binary under 4.2-RELEASE, and it works ok, so the run-time environment is ok (libc_r, etc.). Did anyone notice this misbehavior? Does it have something to do with the "mysql coredumps" thread we've seen here? Should I try the patch obrien posted? Ideas? P.S. The only other difference is that at home I use XFree86-4 and there it was XFree86-3.3.6 which came with the distribution, however, the failure was in the mozilla internal function(s), so I doubt that it's relevant. --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 9:21:23 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 09:21:20 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moon.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DDF37B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 09:21:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by moon.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10681; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:19:11 +0200 To: Jamie Heckford Subject: Re: ESS Sound Driver Message-ID: <976987151.3a3ba40f6df3b@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:19:11 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <00121516132000.04421@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <00121516132000.04421@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Jamie Heckford : > Hi, > > Could anyone offer any guidance on getting the following sound card to > work? > > It is in a Samsung GT8700 laptop - and I am using FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE. > > Windows identifies the card as an ESS Maestro PCI Audio (WDM) - IRQ 5 > > I have tried the sbc and pcm sound drivers - but with no joy. > > Here is some info at boot if it is of any help: > > pci0: (vendor=0x125d, dev=0x199a) at 12.0 > pci0: (vendor=0x11c1, dev=0x0444) at 13.1 > > Thanks in advance for your help try those two lines: options PNPBIOS device pcm And, btw, theese two don't look like sound card for the best of my knowledge. --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 9:53:52 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 09:53:51 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3325237B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 09:53:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA89258; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:53:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Sender: des@ofug.org X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: Jamie Heckford , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS Sound Driver References: <00121516132000.04421@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk> <976987151.3a3ba40f6df3b@webmail.harmonic.co.il> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Dec 2000 18:53:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: Roman Shterenzon's message of "Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:19:11 +0200 (IST)" Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roman Shterenzon writes: > Quoting Jamie Heckford : > > pci0: (vendor=0x125d, dev=0x199a) at 12.0 > > pci0: (vendor=0x11c1, dev=0x0444) at 13.1 > [...] > And, btw, theese two don't look like sound card for the best of my knowledge. The first device is indeed a sound card - an ESS Maestro 3 - while the second is an AT&T WinModem. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 10:54:42 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 10:54:40 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155E237B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBGIn7E60231; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:49:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eBGImGx62537; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:48:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200012160727.IAA28032@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:48:16 -0800 (PST) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: Helge Oldach Subject: Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, samz@oz.net, imp@village.org, mike@argos.org, grog@lemis.com, (Glendon Gross) Sender: jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 16-Dec-00 Helge Oldach wrote: > Glendon Gross: >>Is there anyone interested in rewriting that "fake" partition table, > > Please look at the thread with the same topic three weeks ago. > > I stated that it wouldn't be possible because there is a fundamental > disagreement: > > BIOS standard demands that the first *sector* always remains reserved. > However DD mode only reserves the first *block* and starts with the > actual contents at the second block. This (intentionally) violates BIOS > standards. Though many BIOSsen will happily accept it, some will get > picky and refuse to boot a DD disk due to standards violation. > > If you would leave the first *sector* reserved with DD mode, you are > basically left with the layout of non-DD mode, so this is pointless. s/sector/track/g, s/block/sector/g -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.Baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 11:55:17 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 11:55:15 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.0.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B1937B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:55:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.0.227]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E08C8E9D for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from stanb@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.8.8/8.7.1/PanixN1.0) id OAA01320 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:55:14 -0500 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200012161955.OAA01320@panix2.panix.com> Subject: Can't boot off of hard disk To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Stable List) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:55:14 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to set up 4 almost identical HP Vectras for FreeBSD 4.2 STABLE to use at work. 3 of them ar P75's and all is well with them. The 4th is a PP90 (VL5/90) with a much later BIOS. I started out with 4 brand new Quantam 20G drives. The P75's BISO only sees these as ~8G, but all seems to work fine in FreeBSD. I set these up, as I normally do in "Dangerously dedicated" boot. mode. The P90 has many more BISO choices about the hard disk, and I have played with many combinations of them. I have also tried useing a 4G disk on it, I have also tried installing and creating a good bootable4 disk on one of the other machines, then installing it in the P90. None of the above has resulted in a system that will boot off of the hard disk. Folowing some advice from teh Questiosn list, I tried re-installing from floppy/ftp 4.1, choosing to install BootEasy. After the isntall was complet, but before rebooting, I did the following: 1. ftp /boot/boot0 from a working 3.4 machine 2. boot0cfg -B -b /tmp/boot0 (that's wehre I ftp'd it to). The result of this is a machien that boots to the "F1 FreeBBSD" prompt, which is further than I was getting before, but at that point, pressing F! or return, only results in an angry beep from the machine. I have been fighting this one machine off and on for over 2 weeks now, and this is begining to look pretty bad for FreebSD to the powers that be at work. BTW the 4G disk had NT on it originally, and the machine booted hapily from it. Can anyone make some sugestions as to other things to try to make this machien work? Booting off a floppy is not really an aceptable long term solution for this, since it will be a production critical machine. Thanks for any help, in reliving my frustration which curenlty == MAX!! -- Stan Brown stanb@panix.com 843-745-3154 Charleston SC -- "Be careful not to step in the Microsoft." -- John Denker To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 12: 0:38 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 12:00:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-nl1.origin-it.com (gw-nl1.origin-it.com [193.79.128.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBE737B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:00:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.de.origin-it.com (localhost.origin-it.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl1.origin-it.com with ESMTP id VAA29466; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:00:33 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-de1.origin-it.com(172.16.188.53) by gw-nl1.origin-it.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma029464; Sat, 16 Dec 00 21:00:33 +0100 Received: from mailhub.de.origin-it.com (mailhub.de.origin-it.com [172.16.189.20]) by mail.de.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id VAA13312; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:00:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (galaxy.de.cp.philips.com [130.143.166.29]) by mailhub.de.origin-it.com (8.11.1/8.11.1/hmo23oct00) with ESMTP id eBGK0VH45762; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:00:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/hmo14aug98) id VAA01549; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:00:30 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200012162000.VAA01549@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Subject: Re: Can't boot off of hard disk In-Reply-To: <200012161955.OAA01320@panix2.panix.com> from "stanb@panix.com" at "Dec 16, 2000 2:55:14 pm" To: stanb@panix.com Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:00:30 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Helge Oldach X-Address: Atos Origin, Billstrasse 80, D-20539 Hamburg, Germany X-Phone: +49 40 7886 464, Fax: +49 40 7886 235, Mobile: +49 172 4515513 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG stanb@panix.com: >I am trying to set up 4 almost identical HP Vectras for FreeBSD 4.2 STABLE >to use at work. 3 of them ar P75's and all is well with them. The 4th is a >PP90 (VL5/90) with a much later BIOS. > >I started out with 4 brand new Quantam 20G drives. The P75's BISO only sees >these as ~8G, but all seems to work fine in FreeBSD. I set these up, as I >normally do in "Dangerously dedicated" boot. mode. > >The P90 has many more BISO choices about the hard disk, and I have played >with many combinations of them. I have also tried useing a 4G disk on it, >I have also tried installing and creating a good bootable4 disk on one of >the other machines, then installing it in the P90. > >None of the above has resulted in a system that will boot off of the hard >disk. While we're at it again in another thread... Did you try non-DD mode? What error message do you get when booting? Helge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 12: 8:50 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 12:08:46 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web9102.mail.yahoo.com (unknown [216.136.128.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D30537B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:08:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20001216200842.43502.qmail@web9102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.148.243.5] by web9102.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:08:39 PST Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:08:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Qiu Subject: Re: mozilla and 4.2-RELEASE To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes. I had the exact same problem with the XFree86 4.0. Ray --- Roman Shterenzon wrote: > Hi, > Yesterday I installed vanilla 4.2 (the second > revision of iso image) on a new > computer, and then, after updating the ports tree I > did: > cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla; make install > several hours later it finished and installed the > mozilla package. > Running it produces a segmentation fault, running > mozilla-bin even creates > a core file. I looked at it, and seems that perhaps > the stack was mutilated, > since I didn't see anything unusual there (I can > post it later, if anyone is > interested). > Now, at home I'm running mozilla which I've compiled > under 4.1-STABLE and I'm > runnning 4.2-RELEASE, so, since no patches to > mozilla port were added since > then, I guess that it's something wrong either with > the compiler or linker (or > both). Like I said, I run old binary under > 4.2-RELEASE, and it works ok, so > the run-time environment is ok (libc_r, etc.). > Did anyone notice this misbehavior? Does it have > something to do with the "mysql > coredumps" thread we've seen here? Should I try the > patch obrien posted? > Ideas? > P.S. The only other difference is that at home I use > XFree86-4 and there it was > XFree86-3.3.6 which came with the distribution, > however, the failure was in the > mozilla internal function(s), so I doubt that it's > relevant. > > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and > Consultant > [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: > +972-9-9522361 ] > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 12:14:26 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 12:14:23 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moon.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C216D37B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:14:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by moon.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10768; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:12:12 +0200 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Subject: Re: ESS Sound Driver Message-ID: <976997532.3a3bcc9c0c466@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:12:12 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <00121516132000.04421@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk> <976987151.3a3ba40f6df3b@webmail.harmonic.co.il> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Dag-Erling Smorgrav : > Roman Shterenzon writes: > > Quoting Jamie Heckford : > > > pci0: (vendor=0x125d, dev=0x199a) at 12.0 > > > pci0: (vendor=0x11c1, dev=0x0444) at 13.1 > > [...] > > And, btw, theese two don't look like sound card for the best of my > knowledge. > > The first device is indeed a sound card - an ESS Maestro 3 - while the > second is an AT&T WinModem. Is there a database for all vendor IDs? --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 12:19:20 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 12:19:17 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moon.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC7437B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:19:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by moon.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10774; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:17:09 +0200 To: Ray Qiu Subject: Re: mozilla and 4.2-RELEASE Message-ID: <976997829.3a3bcdc57a271@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:17:09 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20001216200842.43502.qmail@web9102.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20001216200842.43502.qmail@web9102.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Ray Qiu : > Yes. I had the exact same problem with the XFree86 > 4.0. The problem exists in the vanilla FreeBSD 4.2 with XFree86-3.3.6 and doesn't exist in the binary built under 4.1-STABLE (not even 4.1.1-STABLE) at home, where I've XFree86-4 (which was also built under 4.1-STABLE) > --- Roman Shterenzon wrote: > > Hi, > > Yesterday I installed vanilla 4.2 (the second > > revision of iso image) on a new > > computer, and then, after updating the ports tree I > > did: > > cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla; make install > > several hours later it finished and installed the > > mozilla package. > > Running it produces a segmentation fault, running > > mozilla-bin even creates > > a core file. I looked at it, and seems that perhaps > > the stack was mutilated, > > since I didn't see anything unusual there (I can > > post it later, if anyone is > > interested). > > Now, at home I'm running mozilla which I've compiled > > under 4.1-STABLE and I'm > > runnning 4.2-RELEASE, so, since no patches to > > mozilla port were added since > > then, I guess that it's something wrong either with > > the compiler or linker (or > > both). Like I said, I run old binary under > > 4.2-RELEASE, and it works ok, so > > the run-time environment is ok (libc_r, etc.). > > Did anyone notice this misbehavior? Does it have > > something to do with the "mysql > > coredumps" thread we've seen here? Should I try the > > patch obrien posted? > > Ideas? > > P.S. The only other difference is that at home I use > > XFree86-4 and there it was > > XFree86-3.3.6 which came with the distribution, > > however, the failure was in the > > mozilla internal function(s), so I doubt that it's > > relevant. > > > > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and > > Consultant > > [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: > > +972-9-9522361 ] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the > message > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 12:50:31 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 12:50:29 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58DB37B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA89862; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:50:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Sender: des@ofug.org X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ESS Sound Driver References: <00121516132000.04421@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk> <976987151.3a3ba40f6df3b@webmail.harmonic.co.il> <976997532.3a3bcc9c0c466@webmail.harmonic.co.il> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Dec 2000 21:50:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: Roman Shterenzon's message of "Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:12:12 +0200 (IST)" Message-ID: Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roman Shterenzon writes: > Is there a database for all vendor IDs? Yes: /usr/share/misc/pci_vendors in -CURRENT ('pciconf -lv' uses it to identify devices), which comes from . DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 13: 0:32 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 13:00:30 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mbc.sphere.ne.jp (mbc.sphere.ne.jp [203.138.71.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAE837B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ntokyo235019.allnet.ne.jp [210.191.235.19]) by mbc.sphere.ne.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with ESMTP id GAA15615; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 06:00:21 +0900 (JST) To: roman@harmonic.co.il Cc: ray_qiu@yahoo.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mozilla and 4.2-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <976997829.3a3bcdc57a271@webmail.harmonic.co.il> References: <20001216200842.43502.qmail@web9102.mail.yahoo.com> <976997829.3a3bcdc57a271@webmail.harmonic.co.il> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.2 on XEmacs 21.1 (Channel Islands) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20001217060401L.aizu@jaist.ac.jp> Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 06:04:01 +0900 From: Hiroyuki Aizu X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 22 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. From: Roman Shterenzon Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:17:09 +0200 (IST) > Quoting Ray Qiu : > > > Yes. I had the exact same problem with the XFree86 > > 4.0. > > The problem exists in the vanilla FreeBSD 4.2 with XFree86-3.3.6 > and doesn't exist in the binary built under 4.1-STABLE (not even 4.1.1-STABLE) > at home, where I've XFree86-4 (which was also built under 4.1-STABLE) I guess, it was caused by linked library at compile time. # POSE(Palm OS Emulator) which was built on 4.2-RELEASE has same problem :-< Read follow mail archives and try the patch. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=598321+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/freebsd-stable/20001210.freebsd-stable ---- Hiroyuki Aizu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 16:34: 6 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 16:34:05 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from po.monkeybrains.net (rudy-1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.58.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE5F37B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:34:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pollo ([192.168.1.121]) by po.monkeybrains.net (8.11.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eBH0XAu86040 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:33:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rudybulk@monkeybrains.net) Message-ID: <000a01c067c2$5716c400$7901a8c0@monkeybrains.net> From: "Rudy" To: Subject: 'make installworld' trouble with lib/libc_r Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:40:45 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup'd today. And did a make world. Buring the install portion, the make failed. I can recreate the error by doing the following > cd /usr/src/lib/libc_r > make install install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libc_r.a /usr/lib install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libc_r_p.a /usr/lib install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 -fschg libc_r.so.4 /usr/lib /usr/libexec/elf/strip: /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4: File format not recognized *** Error code 70 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libc_r. Why does the 'strip' command fail? Is this something with my machine, or are others experiencing this? Rudy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 17: 7: 2 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 17:07:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell2.mdc.net (shell2.mdc.net [64.31.64.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF7A37B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:07:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (kai@localhost) by shell2.mdc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA81510 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:12:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kai@mdc.net) X-Authentication-Warning: shell2.mdc.net: kai owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:12:48 -0500 (EST) From: Kai Wu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 17: 7:42 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 17:07:40 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-28.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441B437B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBH1HkQ02122; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:17:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200012170117.eBH1HkQ02122@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: Jamie Heckford , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS Sound Driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:19:11 +0200." <976987151.3a3ba40f6df3b@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:17:46 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Windows identifies the card as an ESS Maestro PCI Audio (WDM) - IRQ 5 ... > > pci0: (vendor=0x125d, dev=0x199a) at 12.0 This is the ESS device. > try those two lines: > options PNPBIOS This only helps for ISA sound devices. > device pcm I don't think that pcm supports the above device yet. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 17:11:58 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 17:11:56 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from po.monkeybrains.net (rudy-1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.58.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786CB37B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:11:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pollo ([192.168.1.121]) by po.monkeybrains.net (8.11.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eBH1Axu15339 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:11:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rudybulk@monkeybrains.net) Message-ID: <005201c067c7$9fba1860$7901a8c0@monkeybrains.net> From: "Rudy" To: References: <000a01c067c2$5716c400$7901a8c0@monkeybrains.net> Subject: Re: 'make installworld' trouble with lib/libc_r Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:21:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I redid 'make world' and now it works... Ignore this non-problem. Thanks! RUdy ----- Original Message ----- From: Rudy To: Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 4:40 PM Subject: 'make installworld' trouble with lib/libc_r To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 18:23:57 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 18:23:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103BF37B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:23:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from shootthemlater.demon.co.uk ([194.222.93.84] helo=cerebus.parse.net) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 147TUP-000EPQ-0B; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 02:23:53 +0000 Received: from wbra0013.cognos.com ([10.0.0.3] helo=acm.org) by cerebus.parse.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 147SUg-000C11-00; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:20:06 +0000 Message-ID: <3A3C148B.9B08542D@acm.org> Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:19:07 +0000 From: David Goddard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Spontaneous rebooting problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, In the course of one week, we have had three FreeBSD stable boxes just reboot on us and I'm trying to work out what's going wrong. The reboots were at different times of day with machines at different physical locations, so I don't believe power outages were involved (although we're looking into any causes along those lines). I guess there may be a degree of concidence involved, but I really would like to see if there's any common factor here. The messages log show nothing before the reboot: [...] Dec 16 03:59:00 cassium /kernel: ipfw: Entry 306 cleared. Dec 16 04:20:02 cassium /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Dec 16 04:20:02 cassium /kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993,1994 [...] Dec 16 04:20:02 cassium /kernel: WARNING: / was not properly dismounted One of the machines was built from 4.2 stable sources cvsupped Nov 23 at about 18:00 GMT, the others are similar. I don't believe any of the machines were particularly heavily loaded at the time. At least one of them had no (legitimately) logged on users. Any clues to what happened or pointers to how I can look into this further myself are greatly appreciated... Thanks, Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Dec 16 19:20:51 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 19:20:49 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from subnet.sub.net (subnet.sub.net [212.227.14.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F49B37B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lyxys.ka.sub.org (uucp@localhost) by subnet.sub.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/1.2subnet-linux) with bsmtp id EAA00202; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 04:20:44 +0100 Received: from localhost (1095 bytes) by lyxys.ka.sub.org via sendmail with P:stdio/R:smart_host/T:inet_uusmtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 04:19:43 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Aug-23) Message-Id: From: wolfgang@lyxys.ka.sub.org (Wolfgang Zenker) Subject: Re: Can't boot off of hard disk In-Reply-To: <200012161955.OAA01320@panix2.panix.com> "from stanb@panix.com at Dec 16, 2000 02:55:14 pm" To: stanb@panix.com Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 04:19:43 +0100 (CET) Cc: FreeBSD Stable List X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL77 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, > I am trying to set up 4 almost identical HP Vectras for FreeBSD 4.2 STABLE > to use at work. 3 of them ar P75's and all is well with them. The 4th is a > PP90 (VL5/90) with a much later BIOS. > I started out with 4 brand new Quantam 20G drives. The P75's BISO only sees > these as ~8G, but all seems to work fine in FreeBSD. I set these up, as I > normally do in "Dangerously dedicated" boot. mode. I have a Vectra XU 5/90C here, it does not boot if you use "Dangerously dedicated" mode but works without problem if you use a "compatible" setup. So i suggest you try this option. Wolfgang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message