From owner-freebsd-www Sun Mar 5 9:36:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106A137BAD3; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 09:36:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA89889; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:36:33 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:36:33 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org, phantom@freebsd.org, ru@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SGML->HTML: entities translation is broken for non-Latin1 charsets Message-ID: <20000305203633.A89852@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20000304134300.A24194@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000304134300.A24194@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Sat, Mar 04, 2000 at 01:43:01PM +0300 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexey Zelkin just inform me that   preserved in FAQ (good news!), so it seems there is some option exist to change this behaviour. Please try to find it or Russian pages looks very ugly in the browsers who have strict KOI8-R implementation like MSIE or lynx. On Sat, Mar 04, 2000 at 01:43:01PM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > Looking at www.freebsd.org I found that sgml->html procedure replace > things like   © etc. with their Latin1 8bit hardcoded values :-( > > Please fix it ASAP, non-Latin1 pages are very broken otherwise. F.e. both > © and   have different 8bit codes in KOI8-R than in Latin1. > > Right way is to not translate &...; entities from sgml source at all and > leave them in place. Browser always know better substitution for them. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Sun Mar 5 14: 7: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from holly.calldei.com (adsl-208-191-146-189.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [208.191.146.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5401537BB32; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 14:06:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.calldei.com) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.calldei.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04420; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 16:08:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 16:08:00 -0600 From: Chris Costello To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG, phantom@FreeBSD.ORG, ru@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SGML->HTML: entities translation is broken for non-Latin1 charsets Message-ID: <20000305160800.E97199@holly.calldei.com> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <20000304134300.A24194@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i In-Reply-To: <20000304134300.A24194@nagual.pp.ru> X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, March 04, 2000, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > Right way is to not translate &...; entities from sgml source at all and > leave them in place. Browser always know better substitution for them. No, you'd have to have a list of some sort of the HTML standard entities and use them when translating to HTML from SGML. There are other SGML entities that begin with &...; such as &rel.current; which can't be preserved into HTML. Then there's the issue of other various formats like TeX and RTF. Will we handle those the same too? Or will this just be an HTML issue? Anyone have the same Latin1/non-Latin1 issues with other formats? -- |Chris Costello |It wasn't as easy to get programs right as we had thought. - Wilkes, 1949 `-------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Sun Mar 5 14:17:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B7737B881; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 14:17:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA90802; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 01:17:13 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 01:17:12 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Chris Costello Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG, phantom@FreeBSD.ORG, ru@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SGML->HTML: entities translation is broken for non-Latin1 charsets Message-ID: <20000306011712.A90731@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20000304134300.A24194@nagual.pp.ru> <20000305160800.E97199@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000305160800.E97199@holly.calldei.com>; from chris@calldei.com on Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 04:08:00PM -0600 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 04:08:00PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > On Saturday, March 04, 2000, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > Right way is to not translate &...; entities from sgml source at all and > > leave them in place. Browser always know better substitution for them. > > No, you'd have to have a list of some sort of the HTML > standard entities and use them when translating to HTML from > SGML. There are other SGML entities that begin with &...; such > as &rel.current; which can't be preserved into HTML. Then > there's the issue of other various formats like TeX and RTF. > Will we handle those the same too? Or will this just be an HTML > issue? Yes, I agree to have a list of HTML standard entities which will be not converted in sgml->html procedure. Other formats must use its own symbolic names or hardcoded values not from latin1 but from native tables in this case. But for HTML better variant is to keep all symbolic HTML entities untouched. If adding all of them will be hard, we need to add at least all entities above ASCII and not latin1 letters (like   and © are). -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Sun Mar 5 15:44:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from holly.calldei.com (adsl-208-191-146-189.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [208.191.146.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0188737B94D; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:44:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.calldei.com) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.calldei.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04581; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 17:46:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 17:46:00 -0600 From: Chris Costello To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG, phantom@FreeBSD.ORG, ru@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SGML->HTML: entities translation is broken for non-Latin1 charsets Message-ID: <20000305174600.F97199@holly.calldei.com> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <20000304134300.A24194@nagual.pp.ru> <20000305160800.E97199@holly.calldei.com> <20000306011712.A90731@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i In-Reply-To: <20000306011712.A90731@nagual.pp.ru> X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, March 06, 2000, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > Yes, I agree to have a list of HTML standard entities which will be not > converted in sgml->html procedure. Other formats must use its own symbolic > names or hardcoded values not from latin1 but from native tables in this > case. But for HTML better variant is to keep all symbolic HTML entities > untouched. If adding all of them will be hard, we need to add at least all > entities above ASCII and not latin1 letters (like   and © are). Somewhere in the HTML DTD all the HTML standard entities are defined. All we need to do is get that list and have them translated, or give them special handling. -- |Chris Costello |Swap read error. You lose your mind. `------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Mon Mar 6 0:56:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90D537BCA7; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 00:55:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA10267; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 02:14:56 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 02:14:55 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: doc@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org, phantom@freebsd.org, ru@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SGML->HTML: entities translation is broken for non-Latin1 charsets Message-ID: <20000306021454.A87062@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000304134300.A24194@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000304134300.A24194@nagual.pp.ru>; from Andrey A. Chernov on Sat, Mar 04, 2000 at 01:43:02PM +0300 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Mar 04, 2000 at 01:43:02PM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > Looking at www.freebsd.org I found that sgml->html procedure replace > things like   © etc. with their Latin1 8bit hardcoded values :-( This is done by sgmlnorm. Last time this issue came up I didn't have a good fix for it either. . . Last time this came up, I spoke to the OpenJade maintainers, and got a reply back from Matthias Clasen who said; > sgmlnorm is not designed to do what you request. which might be true, but doesn't really help us. I've done some more digging, and I can at least point people in the right direction. I don't have the necessary skills to fix this, but perhaps the following will lead someone in the right direction. First off, sgmlnorm is part of Jade, and it's written in C++, which complicates things mightily. I'm no C++ programmer, so I'm extrapolating from my C and Perl knowledge here. . . If you look in jade/style/sdata.h, you'll see an array that lists entity numbers to entity names. This is the root cause of the problem, and a typical line from that file is { 0x00A9, "copy" }, which is why "©" becomes "\a9" when a file is processed by sgmlnorm. This file is used in jade/style/Interpreter.cxx to build an array of structs, in this piece of code; -- void Interpreter::installSdata() { // This comes from uni2sgml.txt on ftp://unicode.org. // It is marked there as obsolete, so it probably ought to be checked. // The definitions of apos and quot have been fixed for consistency with XML. static struct { Char c; const char *name; } entities[] = { #include "sdata.h" }; for (size_t i = 0; i < SIZEOF(entities); i++) sdataEntityNameTable_.insert(makeStringC(entities[i].name), entities[i].c); } -- I assume that's building a lookup table, to map entity names to their corresponding character codes. The only other place sdataEntityNameTable is used is in the Interpreter::sdataMap method. That function is passed the entity name, and a reference to a character to output, and alters the reference as necessary, based upon the sdataEntityNameTable map. The logic seems to be: 1. If the entity name is in sdataEntityNameTable then lookup its replacement (e.g., "\a9") and return. 2. If it's not there, call convertUnicodeCharName() on it. This is also defined in Interpreter.cxx, and is a simple switch(). 3. If that step failed, return defaultChar, which seems to 0xfffd. Most of the time, step (1) is going to succeed. As you can see, this code is designed to convert entity names to their numeric references (actually, to C++ chars), and a quick glance at the surrounding and calling code shows that the assumption that the reference passed to sdataMap is a single character is deeply embedded. Changing it will probably touch quite a lot of code. Working backwards, the single character (Char c_) is defined in the SdataNode class (a subclass of EntityRefNode) in spgrove/GroveBuilder.cxx. The single character is private to the class, and can only be accessed through the SdateNode::charChunk method. A quick grep through the source tree shows lots of calls to charChunk() :-( After that, I get a bit lost. I haven't got the tools here to hold a full class hierarchy in my head. . . But that's a start, if anyone wants to do some digging. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Mon Mar 6 2:15:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793F437BCFE; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 02:15:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA92836; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:15:02 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:14:58 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org, phantom@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SGML->HTML: entities translation is broken for non-Latin1 charsets Message-ID: <20000306131457.B92757@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20000304134300.A24194@nagual.pp.ru> <20000306021454.A87062@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000306021454.A87062@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 02:14:55AM +0000 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 02:14:55AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > This is done by sgmlnorm. Last time this issue came up I didn't have a > good fix for it either. . . It seems that Hiroki Sato give us good workaround, so source patching is not needed for HTMLs processing. > If you look in jade/style/sdata.h, you'll see an array that lists entity > numbers to entity names. This is the root cause of the problem, and a > typical line from that file is > > { 0x00A9, "copy" }, > > which is why "©" becomes "\a9" when a file is processed by sgmlnorm. This can cause problems with converting to non-HTML formats (TeX, etc.), but not so urgent as www pages so can be discussed with Jade maintainers later. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Mon Mar 6 10:45:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from ms50.url.com.tw (c31.h203149207.is.net.tw [203.149.207.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53E6737B6D7 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:45:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abcrom@ms50.url.com.tw) From: www.seedbor.com@FreeBSD.ORG To: abcrom@ms50.url.com.tw Subject: ¤@«h¯º¸Ü MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=BIG5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20000306184518.53E6737B6D7@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:45:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.seedbor.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Tue Mar 7 13:57:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mail.commerce.com (hillary.commerce.com [198.70.62.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969C637BEB4 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:57:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from geoff@commerce.com) Received: from mephesto (mephesto.commerce.com [10.70.57.16]) by mail.commerce.com (8.8.7/8.8.7/GCL-2.6p) with SMTP id OAA22792 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:57:26 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003072157.OAA22792@mail.commerce.com> From: "Geoffrey Lassner" To: Subject: FYI Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:57:26 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On the web page: http://www.freebsd.org/news/press.html Under the March 2000 section: FreeBSD for the SVR4/Linux Administrator is a link to: http://www.samag.com/current/feature.shtml I think it probably should point to this http://www.samag.com/archive/0903/feature.shtml Thanks, Geoffrey Lassner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Wed Mar 8 0:24:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDC237B6D0; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:24:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07100; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:24:42 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:24:41 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: doc@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Subject: www is not updated Message-ID: <20000308112441.A7084@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20000305203633.A89852@nagual.pp.ru> <200003051959.EAA00142@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000305230729.A90274@nagual.pp.ru> <200003052105.GAA05635@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000306003545.A90564@nagual.pp.ru> <20000305151810.A200@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000305151810.A200@scorpion.crimea.ua>; from phantom@cris.net on Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 03:18:10PM +0300 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 03:18:10PM +0300, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > report me any problems with russian web pages (keep in mind -- www server tree > is rebuilding each 24 hours) I see it not rebuilded much more than 24h. What happens? -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Wed Mar 8 2: 8:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55A437B5D5; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 02:08:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id MAA03054; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:18:49 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id BAA08513; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:44:41 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:44:41 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: wosch@FreeBSD.org Cc: "Andrey A. Chernov" , www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: www is not updated Message-ID: <20000308014441.A8495@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <20000305203633.A89852@nagual.pp.ru> <200003051959.EAA00142@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000305230729.A90274@nagual.pp.ru> <200003052105.GAA05635@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000306003545.A90564@nagual.pp.ru> <20000305151810.A200@scorpion.crimea.ua> <20000308112441.A7084@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <20000308112441.A7084@nagual.pp.ru> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 11:24:41AM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > report me any problems with russian web pages (keep in mind -- www server tree > > is rebuilding each 24 hours) > > I see it not rebuilded much more than 24h. What happens? Wolfram ? What's going on ? Web tree on hub is not rebuilding at least three days ... -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Thu Mar 9 13: 7: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from s1.seam.bigmirror.com (s1-snat.seam.bigmirror.com [209.221.148.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C81F37B828 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 13:06:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hostmaster@bigmirror.com) Received: from bigmirror.com (mulder.f5.com [205.229.151.150]) by s1.seam.bigmirror.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4858860E01; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:30:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38C590CF.E1716440@bigmirror.com> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:29:19 -0800 From: Bigmirror Hostmaster Organization: bigmirror.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@freebsd.org Subject: New cvsup and web site mirror Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have been running a CVSUP and Freebsd.org web site mirror for a while and would like to make them public. We currently have a single POP in Seattle, WA; but will be setting up additional POP's in Spokane, WA and, probably, Washington, DC soon. All of our POP's will be accessible using site and server load balancing products from our sponsor: F5 Networks. If you add DNS entries in the freebsd.org domain, please make them CNAME's to our DNS service, so the site load balancing works correctly. The website can be found at: freebsd.bigmirror.com and the CVSUP server at: cvsup.bigmirror.com Please let me know when they are listed. Thanks. JMH -- John Hall hostmaster@bigmirror.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Thu Mar 9 17: 1:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CED37B8C6; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:00:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id DAA13031; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:10:21 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id NAA24315; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 13:04:47 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 13:04:47 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: hostmaster@bigmirror.com Cc: www@FreeBSD.org, jdp@FreeBSD.org, hostmaster@FreeBSD.org Subject: [hostmaster@bigmirror.com: New cvsup and web site mirror] Message-ID: <20000309130447.A24224@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, I am forwarding your request to John Polstra (he's responsible for CVSUP mirrors) and to hostmaster (he's responsible for *.FreeBSD.org domain hostnames allocation). ps: I'll add note about your web and cvsup mirror as soon as they approved and you'll get wwwX.FreeBSD.org name. ----- Forwarded message from Bigmirror Hostmaster ----- Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:29:19 -0800 From: Bigmirror Hostmaster To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New cvsup and web site mirror We have been running a CVSUP and Freebsd.org web site mirror for a while and would like to make them public. We currently have a single POP in Seattle, WA; but will be setting up additional POP's in Spokane, WA and, probably, Washington, DC soon. All of our POP's will be accessible using site and server load balancing products from our sponsor: F5 Networks. If you add DNS entries in the freebsd.org domain, please make them CNAME's to our DNS service, so the site load balancing works correctly. The website can be found at: freebsd.bigmirror.com and the CVSUP server at: cvsup.bigmirror.com Please let me know when they are listed. Thanks. JMH -- John Hall hostmaster@bigmirror.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Sat Mar 11 16:51:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from lysimachus.hosting.swbell.net (lysimachus.hosting.swbell.net [216.100.98.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62E137BC74 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:51:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willy@imimic.com) Received: from imimic.com (adsl-208-191-169-53.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [208.191.169.53]) by lysimachus.hosting.swbell.net id TAA22627; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:51:06 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.7] Message-ID: <38CAEAB8.D2055134@imimic.com> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:54:16 -0600 From: Willy Zwaenepoel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.org Subject: entry for FreeBSD commercial hardware vendors list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7D0F5CD43160141B4BB9EE70" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7D0F5CD43160141B4BB9EE70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Could you please enter the following entry in the FreeBSD commercial hardware vendors list? Thanks, Willy. --------------7D0F5CD43160141B4BB9EE70 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="ourbsd.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ourbsd.html" iMimic Networking, Inc. offers the DataReactor family of Web cache appliances. The DataReactor family leads the caching industry in price-performance, from an agressively priced entry-level caching appliance to a high-end caching appliance at mid-level prices. The FreeBSD-based DataReactor Core software includes management features such as SNMP monitoring support, Common Logfile Format logging, and Web-based or console-based configuration. Please send mail to info@imimic.com for more information. --------------7D0F5CD43160141B4BB9EE70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="our-bsd.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="our-bsd.txt" iMimic Networking, Inc. offers the DataReactor family of Web cache appliances. The DataReactor family leads the caching industry in price-performance, from an agressively priced entry-level caching appliance to a high-end caching appliance at mid-level prices. The FreeBSD-based DataReactor Core software includes management features such as SNMP monitoring support, Common Logfile Format logging, and Web-based or console-based configuration. Please send mail to info@imimic.com for more information. --------------7D0F5CD43160141B4BB9EE70-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message