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Date:      Sun, 2 Dec 2001 02:23:22 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
Cc:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Enabling Softupdates in default install on -CURRENT
Message-ID:  <200112021023.fB2ANMi91290@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1011201232300.4004I-100000@fledge.watson.org> <p05101007b82f63a0b813@[128.113.24.47]>

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:At 11:27 PM -0500 12/1/01, Robert Watson wrote:
:>I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't time to switch sysinstall to start
:>configuring softupdates "by default" for file systems at install-time.
:>We currently allow it to be selected, but don't enable it by default.
:>I would propose it be turned on by default for all non-root file
:>systems, or some other similar rule (file systems <64MB, ..).
:
:I expect it would be best to have it default 'off' for /, because the
:user can get into strange-seeming failures when installing a new kernel.
:I do like the idea of it being on for most other filesystems.
:
:I don't have much of an opinion as to whether it should also default
:to off for other "small" file systems.

    I agree.  / is still a problem - I have softupdates enabled on
    my 128M / partitions and if I 'make install' a kernel twice in
    a row the filesystem runs out of space and the second install
    fails.  But that's the only time I've ever managed to run a
    softupdates filesystem out of space.  If we incorporated a couple
    of 'sync's (like eight of them) at the beginning of a kernel or
    world install target it would probably be safe enough.

						-Matt


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