From owner-freebsd-atm Wed Nov 7 5:13:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from iscserv7.nepustil.net (NS.Nepustil.NET [193.96.243.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B1A37B417 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:13:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from fht-esslingen.de (ISCPC7.Nepustil.NET [193.96.243.37]) by iscserv7.nepustil.net (Sendmail) with ESMTP id C553379EAD for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:12:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3BE933A5.B461E875@fht-esslingen.de> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 14:14:13 +0100 From: "Prof. Dr.-Ing. Ulrich Nepustil" Reply-To: ulrich.nepustil@fht-esslingen.de Organization: FHT Esslingen / Standort =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6pppingen?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Subject: PCA-200E-LE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Is the "LE" variant from the Fore System ATM PC-adapters supported by FreeBSD ? Best regards U.Nepustil To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Fri Nov 9 7:28:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com (mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.68.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2904E37B434 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 07:28:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com (mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.2.12]) by mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09934; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:27:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from sol.eng.fore.com (sol.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.155.73]) by mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01748; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:27:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambada (lambada [169.144.87.62]) by sol.eng.fore.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29888; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:27:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:27:43 -0500 (EST) From: Jacob Ritorto X-Sender: jritorto@lambada To: "Prof. Dr.-Ing. Ulrich Nepustil" Cc: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCA-200E-LE In-Reply-To: <3BEB859D.3C746B9A@fht-esslingen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, don't take this as gospel, but I'd guess that the le is not supported in FreeBSD. This is a wild guess based on the fact that the le card relies on the underlying operating system to do most of the work i.e. sar stuff, etc. it's *much* less intelligent than a pca200e, hence the "Low End" designation. I too am interested in using le cards in a FreeBSD system simply because I have access to hundreds of them; however, given the politics I've seen here recently, I would *definitely* recommend the pca200e if you want continued support and/or if you want a proper ATM adaptor that doesn't shluff off the extra work onto your cpu. BTW, FORE/Marconi has recently made the Solaris ForeThought Adaptor code available via community source, so if you know someone who's willing to work on porting it from the Solaris base to FreeBSD, that would be sweet. Check this out: Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:22:13 -0400 Subject: Access to Community Source.... The FOREThought Partners Program has been made obsolete by the Community Source Program. The history of this is: * Many years ago, FORE was trying to get application vendors to create unique, ATM-based applications so that they could sell more ATM networking, particularly to the desktop; * To promote this, they signed up as many people as possible as 'FOREThought Partners" * In most cases, this was not managed nor did it do very well. This is because it was approached, by many, as a technical-only situation and not a good business approach * FORE/Marconi continued to support the program over the past 2-3 years for current members * However, we have not accepted/renewed applications to this program The challenge was to create an easy-to-use program that would require a minimum of support. This would let Marconi get benefits from what was out there, yet not have to invest in something which did not have a large market share. Also, there was a movement to 'open source licensing'. So, to meet the needs of: * Providing a way to get detailed technical support * Allowing users access to source code * Letting users create works based on Marconi source The Community Source program was created. This is available to the Community Source Web (CSW) at the link: www.marconi.com-->Login-->CSWLogin http://www.marconi.com/html/login/cswlogin.htm Anybody may sign up for Community Source. The license is a 'click through' process. Once a user joins Community Source, they may take Marconi's base drivers - Solaris reference - and modify them. We plan to put other drivers out there as soon as they are 'cleaned' and moved into what we call "Common Driver Architecture". If plans continue, we should have a LINUX driver late this year and an NT driver early next year followed by 9x. Under the terms of Community Source, users may: * Take Marconi source code * Modify it to their own purposes * Distribute *BINARY* or *OBJECT of Marconi or their own code * Return copies of modified code to the Marconi library to share with others * (Or, choose not to return the source code to the community, but they may NOT distribute it!) We have set up a Bulletin Board System (BBS) for questions in this area. Hope this helps. --jake On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Prof. Dr.-Ing. Ulrich Nepustil wrote: > hi, > > Jacob Ritorto wrote: > > > hi, > > Has anyone answered this query of yours? > > no. Do you have any information ? I want to build a box > preferably with FreeBSD but it could also be a Linux variant. > I heard that the "normal" PCA-200E are supported by both, > Linux and FreeBSD. Have you any information which sollution > is the best ? > Thanks in advance. > U.Nepustil > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Fri Nov 9 7:49: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from esply02.cnt.com (mailhost.cnt.com [139.93.128.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB2137B430 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 07:48:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by esply02.cnt.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4R3P0RQW>; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:48:36 -0600 Message-ID: <67DB78CE91D7D41190A100508BFDF5E051F01A@esply03.cnt.com> From: Joe Thomas To: 'Jacob Ritorto' , "Prof. Dr.-Ing. Ulrich Nepustil" Cc: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Subject: RE: PCA-200E-LE Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:52:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually, the LE will work with FreeBSD if you use the nicstar driver written by Mark Tinguely [mailto:tinguley@web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu]. Pickup ftp://ftp.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/pub/freebsd/atm/nicstar.tgz -Joe Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Ritorto [mailto:jritorto@fore.com] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:28 AM To: Prof. Dr.-Ing. Ulrich Nepustil Cc: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCA-200E-LE Well, don't take this as gospel, but I'd guess that the le is not supported in FreeBSD. This is a wild guess based on the fact that the le card relies on the underlying operating system to do most of the work i.e. sar stuff, etc. it's *much* less intelligent than a pca200e, hence the "Low End" designation. I too am interested in using le cards in a FreeBSD system simply because I have access to hundreds of them; however, given the politics I've seen here recently, I would *definitely* recommend the pca200e if you want continued support and/or if you want a proper ATM adaptor that doesn't shluff off the extra work onto your cpu. BTW, FORE/Marconi has recently made the Solaris ForeThought Adaptor code available via community source, so if you know someone who's willing to work on porting it from the Solaris base to FreeBSD, that would be sweet. Check this out: Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:22:13 -0400 Subject: Access to Community Source.... The FOREThought Partners Program has been made obsolete by the Community Source Program. The history of this is: * Many years ago, FORE was trying to get application vendors to create unique, ATM-based applications so that they could sell more ATM networking, particularly to the desktop; * To promote this, they signed up as many people as possible as 'FOREThought Partners" * In most cases, this was not managed nor did it do very well. This is because it was approached, by many, as a technical-only situation and not a good business approach * FORE/Marconi continued to support the program over the past 2-3 years for current members * However, we have not accepted/renewed applications to this program The challenge was to create an easy-to-use program that would require a minimum of support. This would let Marconi get benefits from what was out there, yet not have to invest in something which did not have a large market share. Also, there was a movement to 'open source licensing'. So, to meet the needs of: * Providing a way to get detailed technical support * Allowing users access to source code * Letting users create works based on Marconi source The Community Source program was created. This is available to the Community Source Web (CSW) at the link: www.marconi.com-->Login-->CSWLogin http://www.marconi.com/html/login/cswlogin.htm Anybody may sign up for Community Source. The license is a 'click through' process. Once a user joins Community Source, they may take Marconi's base drivers - Solaris reference - and modify them. We plan to put other drivers out there as soon as they are 'cleaned' and moved into what we call "Common Driver Architecture". If plans continue, we should have a LINUX driver late this year and an NT driver early next year followed by 9x. Under the terms of Community Source, users may: * Take Marconi source code * Modify it to their own purposes * Distribute *BINARY* or *OBJECT of Marconi or their own code * Return copies of modified code to the Marconi library to share with others * (Or, choose not to return the source code to the community, but they may NOT distribute it!) We have set up a Bulletin Board System (BBS) for questions in this area. Hope this helps. --jake On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Prof. Dr.-Ing. Ulrich Nepustil wrote: > hi, > > Jacob Ritorto wrote: > > > hi, > > Has anyone answered this query of yours? > > no. Do you have any information ? I want to build a box > preferably with FreeBSD but it could also be a Linux variant. > I heard that the "normal" PCA-200E are supported by both, > Linux and FreeBSD. Have you any information which sollution > is the best ? > Thanks in advance. > U.Nepustil > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Fri Nov 9 8: 5:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu (web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu [134.129.125.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B0037B42A for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:05:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA9G5jO09938; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:05:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tinguely) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:05:45 -0600 (CST) From: mark tinguely Message-Id: <200111091605.fA9G5jO09938@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> To: joe_thomas@cnt.com, jritorto@fore.com, ulrich.nepustil@fht-esslingen.de Subject: RE: PCA-200E-LE Cc: freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <67DB78CE91D7D41190A100508BFDF5E051F01A@esply03.cnt.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I forgot the CC the list when I replied, as stated there is my driver and a driver by Richard Hodges at: http://www.hodges.org/rh/code/if_idt.c.gz --mark tinguely To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message