Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 06:02:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Shalayeff <mickey@lucifier.net> To: June Carey <carey_june@hotmail.com> Cc: bugs@openbsd.org, bugs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD-2.9 random devices Message-ID: <200109231002.f8NA2Qhp010383@lucifier.net> In-Reply-To: <F28IlZ5cNww5jGpJtaO000031c8@hotmail.com> from June Carey at "Sep 22, 2001 06:52:16 pm"
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Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from June Carey: > Hi. re > In the OpenBSD-2.9 random(4) manual pages, it says: "The entropy > pool is converted into output data using MD5"; /dev/srandom, > /dev/urandom. > > I believe the implementation of these devices were "taken" from FreeBSD, > hence the Cc:. no, it was not. > I suggest that the MD5 algorithm is removed and replaced with what I call > the "XOR-fold-technique". As I'm sure you know, the one-time-pad cipher > consists of a key-stream synchronously XOR'd with a data-stream. > > The "XOR-fold-technique" is the same thing, but applied to only one stream. > For example, if you have a (secret) 16-byte quantity, you half it in size > (8-bytes) and XOR one half with the other. The product is as secure as the > one-time-pad cipher, i.e. it is a perfect one-way "hash". and it does both at the moment, md5 and, then, fold it it in half. > The replacement of MD5 with "XOR-fold" has the following advantages: > > (1) Guaranteed one-way function; MD5 is at best supposition. > (2) Massive performance increase. > (3) The algorithm automatically scales to the input size, whereas MD5 > produces a constant sized output (128-bits from memory ?) > > > Disadvantages: > > None ? yeah, right. and now think which qualities output hash function should have and what your approach has? cu -- paranoic mickey (my employers have changed but, the name has remained) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message
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