From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Dec 9 0:44:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.thpoon.com (CPE0080c8f2c614.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.42.106.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBC0F37B416 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 00:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5861 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2001 08:44:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tea.thpoon.com) (qmailr@192.168.1.2) by 192.168.1.1 with SMTP; 9 Dec 2001 08:44:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 5671 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Dec 2001 08:44:33 -0000 To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: Subject: Re: A breath of fresh air.. References: <0112071641320B.01380@stinky.akitanet.co.uk> <000b01c17f42$c23ab140$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C110351.4748B559@duth.gr> <005001c17f6c$e60c0ef0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: Arcady Genkin X-Face: 0=A/O5-+sE[Tf%X>rYr?Y5LD4,:^'jaJ!4jC&UR*ZrrK2>^`g22Qeb]!:d;}2YJ|Hq"LHdF OX`jWX|AT-WVFQ(TPhFVak)0nt$aEdlOq=1~D,:\z5QlVOrZ2(H,mKg=Xr|'VlHA="r Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 09 Dec 2001 03:44:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: <005001c17f6c$e60c0ef0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: <874rn06avi.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Academic Rigor) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Anthony Atkielski" writes: > I just recognize that UNIX is not a desktop OS, at least not > compared to Windows. I'm amazed that so many people try so hard to > prove otherwise. The only possible motivation I can think of for > this is that a lot of people who feel this way use UNIX (and > especially Linux, the most primitive and overhyped version of UNIX) > only because they hate Microsoft, and will go to any extreme, expend > any effort, and suffer any inconvenience just so that they can have > something that looks just like Windows but lacks the Microsoft > brand. You might be surprised, but, for one, I'd hate to have a desktop that looks like Windows. I want to start with a clean desktop, and then add only those few shortcuts, which I need most. I want to have non-buggy support for multiple desktops. I want to get rid of the task bar, which is not needed with multiple desktops. I want to have my own choice of clock/calendar application. I want to have my cdparanoia-based CD-ripper. I want my own choice of ICQ client. I want to be able to strip any window of all window decorations (title bar, resize bar, borders, etc.), and configure such window to not take focus; and I want that these settings be saved for a particular application between sessions. I want not to suffer brain damage if I want to repartition my hard drive, or migrate the entire installation to a new hard drive. I want to be able to securely connect to my workstation from work, in a terminal to avoid transfers of graphical information over slow network. These are just a few requirements of mine, specific to workstation use, which AFAIK Windows is unable to deliver. They make Unix a lot more adequate WS for me. Please don't generalize. Windows just doesn't make it for me. I doubt it ever will, given how little progress in terms of GUI configurability I am seeing between the versions. Basically, as far as I can see, it's the same old crap, only with new spiffy icons (pardon my choice of words). -- Arcady Genkin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message