From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 1:19:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E849937B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:19:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA13671; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:19:42 +1100 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:19:31 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: John Baldwin Cc: The Hermit Hacker , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Problem with sio in -current ... possible cause of hangs? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > On 03-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > If I plug my cable from /dev/ttyd0 -> /dev/ttyd1 on the same > > machine, run getty on /dev/ttyd1 and use kermit to connect to /dev/cuaa0, > > I get no response back, which is why I'm wondering about sio ... > > Try turning clocal off on the host and port you are running kermit on. Even Or just use /dev/cuaa*. > then, I still have yet to get getty to work at all, it's always stuck in > 'siodcd'. I've noticed via debugging output that the DCD change bit does raise > for a read, but that teh DCD status bit stays at zero the entire time. The This seems to indicate a cabling problem. DCD and DCD change shouldn't change for a read; they should only change when "carrier" changes. > sio driver seems to ignore the change bit and only read the status bit, so it > thinks DCD is never raised and hangs forever on open. Note that I can get a Very short transients in DCD would be missed by the driver. The DCD change bit is for not missing transients, but in normal modem applications missing transients is probably a feature. Anyway, it's not clear what state change should occur in the driver if the DCD state hasn't changed when the driver looks at it. > getty fine on a serial console, just not on a /dev/ttydX that's not also the > serial console. :( I've had this problem since before PRE_SMPNG however. Certainly a hardware problem :-). Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 5: 2:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta03.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B2937B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 05:02:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au ([203.28.1.220]) by mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP id <20010304130251.URTK2527.mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au@camtech.net.au>; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:02:51 +1100 Message-ID: <3AA23DD5.38CD01D6@camtech.net.au> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:36:29 +1030 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with sio in -current ... possible cause of hangs? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > Morning all ... > > I'm trying to get my serial console to work on my desktop, and > appear to be failing miserably at even just getting it to accept a 'getty' > serial connection, let alone serial console ... It's not that hard as long as you stick to certain essentials: 1) Dont try to run at any speed other than 9600 unless your prepared to read the archives and maintain things bwteen builds. 2) Dont use the serial port for anything else, no getty, no mouse (if you dont have enough com ports because you have a serial modem and a serial mouse you should just get yourself a cheap PS/2 mouse). 3) Maybe add the following line to your kernel options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER # A BREAK on a comconsole goes to DDB 4) Then just create /boot.conf containing just "-h" without the double quotes. Then you can easily turn it off by renaming that file. And yes there is no problem connecting it to another box and running something like minicom to use the console. Oh, you might want the grounds connected pin1 -> pin1 but make sure the earth connections on your power outlets work or you'll get what I had once where my whole computer room (computers on a string of powerboards) was trying to earth itself through the signal ground to my wyse50 in the lounge room!!!! I didn't realise until I blew one of the serial ports on my old P90. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 9:35: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from moby.geekhouse.net (moby.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A2837B723 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:34:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp152.geekhouse.net [192.168.1.152]) by moby.geekhouse.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f24HZf182939; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:35:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 09:34:33 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Bruce Evans Subject: RE: Problem with sio in -current ... possible cause of hangs? Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, The Hermit Hacker Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 04-Mar-01 Bruce Evans wrote: > On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > >> On 03-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: >> > If I plug my cable from /dev/ttyd0 -> /dev/ttyd1 on the same >> > machine, run getty on /dev/ttyd1 and use kermit to connect to /dev/cuaa0, >> > I get no response back, which is why I'm wondering about sio ... >> >> Try turning clocal off on the host and port you are running kermit on. Even > > Or just use /dev/cuaa*. Erm, well, that is what I use, but clocal defaults to off on those I think. >> then, I still have yet to get getty to work at all, it's always stuck in >> 'siodcd'. I've noticed via debugging output that the DCD change bit does >> raise >> for a read, but that teh DCD status bit stays at zero the entire time. The > > This seems to indicate a cabling problem. DCD and DCD change shouldn't > change for a read; they should only change when "carrier" changes. I meant 'read' as in a read of the status register containing the DCD. >> sio driver seems to ignore the change bit and only read the status bit, so >> it >> thinks DCD is never raised and hangs forever on open. Note that I can get a > > Very short transients in DCD would be missed by the driver. The DCD change > bit is for not missing transients, but in normal modem applications missing > transients is probably a feature. Anyway, it's not clear what state change > should occur in the driver if the DCD state hasn't changed when the driver > looks at it. > >> getty fine on a serial console, just not on a /dev/ttydX that's not also the >> serial console. :( I've had this problem since before PRE_SMPNG however. > > Certainly a hardware problem :-). Well, it seems to be now as serial console in the loader doesn't even work. The odd thing is that the same exact cables in the same exact setup worked on the SMPng tree a week before PRE_SMPNG because I used it for remote gdb and serial console. About a week before the commit I started getting the siodcd hangs and haven't been able to shake them ever since. :( > Bruce -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 9:35: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from moby.geekhouse.net (moby.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CA337B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:34:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp152.geekhouse.net [192.168.1.152]) by moby.geekhouse.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f24HZd182935; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:35:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 09:34:30 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: The Hermit Hacker Subject: RE: Using serial console to debug system hangs ... Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > >> >> On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: >> > >> > Wow, that was painful ... after 2 hrs, I got as far as: >> >> Yeah, it spews out a lot of crap. :-/ You prolly want to use a 115200 >> serial >> console if at all possible. Should've mentioned that earlier.. > > Okay, reading NOTES, it says that 9600 is the default ... does that mean I > should be able to attach at 115200 and it should auto-upgrade, or do I > have to recompile kernel iwth CONSPEED=115200 for this? Either recompile or use the loader tunable 'machdep.conspeed' I think. However, you'll probably want the bootstrap to work on teh serial console as well, in which case you need to set the speed in make.conf (see /etc/defaults/make.conf) and recompile and reinstall boot2 and the loader. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 9:48:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (SHW39-29.accesscable.net [24.138.39.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3104137B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:48:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f24HmWp85532; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:48:32 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:48:32 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: John Baldwin Cc: Subject: RE: Using serial console to debug system hangs ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > > > >> > >> On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > >> > > >> > Wow, that was painful ... after 2 hrs, I got as far as: > >> > >> Yeah, it spews out a lot of crap. :-/ You prolly want to use a 115200 > >> serial > >> console if at all possible. Should've mentioned that earlier.. > > > > Okay, reading NOTES, it says that 9600 is the default ... does that mean I > > should be able to attach at 115200 and it should auto-upgrade, or do I > > have to recompile kernel iwth CONSPEED=115200 for this? > > Either recompile or use the loader tunable 'machdep.conspeed' I think. > However, you'll probably want the bootstrap to work on teh serial console as > well, in which case you need to set the speed in make.conf (see > /etc/defaults/make.conf) and recompile and reinstall boot2 and the loader. Okay, now you are going beyond my experiences :( First, I changed CONSPEED to 115200, but sysctl is still registering 9600: thelab# sysctl machdep.conspeed machdep.conspeed: 9600 manually doing 'sysctl -w machdep.conspeed=115200' appears to work though ... But, after modifying my make.conf, what do I have to recompile? Are we just talking a rebuild and install of the kernel itself? I'm going to try that ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 10:16:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pozo.com (pozo.com [216.101.162.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26B337B719; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:16:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from null@pozo.com) Received: from dual.pozo.com (dual.pozo.com [216.101.162.51]) by pozo.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f24IGXJ06101; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:16:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from null@pozo.com) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010304101245.00a6bbb0@pozo.com> X-Sender: null@pozo.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:16:33 -0800 To: The Hermit Hacker , John Baldwin From: Manfred Antar Subject: RE: Using serial console to debug system hangs ... Cc: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:48 PM 3/4/2001 -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: >On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > >> >> On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: >> > On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, John Baldwin wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Wow, that was painful ... after 2 hrs, I got as far as: >> >> >> >> Yeah, it spews out a lot of crap. :-/ You prolly want to use a 115200 >> >> serial >> >> console if at all possible. Should've mentioned that earlier.. >> > >> > Okay, reading NOTES, it says that 9600 is the default ... does that mean I >> > should be able to attach at 115200 and it should auto-upgrade, or do I >> > have to recompile kernel iwth CONSPEED=115200 for this? >> >> Either recompile or use the loader tunable 'machdep.conspeed' I think. >> However, you'll probably want the bootstrap to work on teh serial console as >> well, in which case you need to set the speed in make.conf (see >> /etc/defaults/make.conf) and recompile and reinstall boot2 and the loader. > >Okay, now you are going beyond my experiences :( > >First, I changed CONSPEED to 115200, but sysctl is still registering 9600: > >thelab# sysctl machdep.conspeed >machdep.conspeed: 9600 > >manually doing 'sysctl -w machdep.conspeed=115200' appears to work though >... > >But, after modifying my make.conf, what do I have to recompile? Are we >just talking a rebuild and install of the kernel itself? I'm going to try >that ... > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message You have to recompile the boot stuff also, after changing the line in make.conf: # The default serial console speed is 9600. Set the speed to a larger value # for better interactive response. # BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED= 57600 Then cd /sys/boot ; make depend all install. I forget if you then need to relabel the disk or not. ie : disklabel -B da0 ================================== || null@pozo.com || || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 11: 1:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A3C37B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:01:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA31432 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:01:19 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:01:17 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: current@freebsd.org Subject: well! That root didn't work! Let's try another! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This happened to me yesterday, and, haha, I didn't notice until I started to see RSA stuff not working: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0a no such device 'ad' setrootbyname failed ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp Root mount failed: 6 Mounting root from ufs:da0a da0: invalid primary partition table: no magic WARNING: clock lost 358 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! My FreeBSD-alpha PC164 lost it's IDE disk for 4.2 somehow- which I'd just loaded the 4.2 kernel from- so it decided to run off of da0 instead, which was -current. Truly a startling turn of events. Shouldn't one stop and ask if the root one asked for isn't available? -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 11:12:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hda.hda.com (host65.hda.com [63.104.68.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8404037B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:12:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dufault@hda.hda.com) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f24JCYq46536 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:12:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dufault) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <200103041912.f24JCYq46536@hda.hda.com> Subject: Posix feature tests update To: current@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:11:58 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Critique, please. I'm building a large body of code with the following cc options: > -D_POSIX_VERSION=199506L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199506L and one of my own: > -D_P1003_1G_VISIBLE together with locally hacked up headers. Here's how I'm hacking. This could go into current if no one objects. 1. In "sys/_posix.h" the test macro _BSD_TRADITIONAL is defined if neither _POSIX_SOURCE nor _POSIX_C_SOURCE are defined. In most system headers, those items currently bracketed by > #ifndef _POSIX_SOURCE instead are bracketed by > #ifdef _BSD_TRADITIONAL 2. What I'd previously put in sys/_posix.h as > #define _P1003_1B_VISIBLE is replaced by > #define _P1003_1_199309 The notion is that prior to a draft being finalized it is fine to select it with _P1003_1B_VISIBLE (or _P1003_1G_VISIBLE) since you don't know the final _POSIX_VERSION and it should be viewed with suspicion, but once it is finalized it should be replaced by the _POSIX_VERSION numeric id. 3. I'd get rid of the verbose and unclear: #define _P1003_1B_VISIBLE_HISTORICALLY and replace it with the inline (that is, repeated in the headers) test > #if defined(_BSD_TRADITIONAL) || defined(_P1003_1_199309) 4. Everything added in the 1995 P1003.1 is bracketed by > #ifdef _P1003_1_199506 or > #if defined(_BSD_TRADITIONAL) || defined(_P1003_1_199506) as appropriate, i.e. if brand new it gets the first test, if pre-existing it gets the second. 5. Those items from the draft Posix 1003.1-G are bracketed by _P1003_1G_VISIBLE optionally or'd with _BSD_TRADITIONAL, as needed. -- It is useful to specify the Posix version, but right now the lack of networking support makes it only marginally useful. Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime development, Machine control, HD Associates, Inc. Fail-Safe systems, Agency approval To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 11:18:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (SHW39-29.accesscable.net [24.138.39.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0C937B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:18:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f24JIdk25212 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:18:40 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:18:39 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Subject: More on system hangs ... IRQ related? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Morning ... I'm having a bugger of a time getting anywhere with the KTR stuff, for, as soon as I enable it, the system slows down so badly that I can't get into X to hang it ... Figure that I'd try killing off *everything* not required (named, ethernet interfaces, etc), so that there was less happening, I started up X ... wouldn't hang. Rebooted the machine, so that everything was running 'as per normal', and started X ... dead in no time. Looking at the IRQs that my machine is running with, according to dmesg, I notice a few 'overlaps', and wonder if that could be the cause? > dmesg | grep irq IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 19 -> irq 2 IOAPIC #0 intpin 18 -> irq 10 IOAPIC #0 intpin 17 -> irq 11 IOAPIC #0 intpin 16 -> irq 12 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ahc0: port 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xf0200000-0xf0200fff irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0 pcm0: port 0xd000-0xd03f irq 2 at device 17.0 on pci0 atapci1: port 0xdc00-0xdcff,0xd800-0xd803,0xd400-0xd407 irq 10 at device 19.0 on pci0 atapci2: port 0xe800-0xe8ff,0xe400-0xe403,0xe000-0xe007 irq 10 at device 19.1 on pci0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 fxp0: port 0xc400-0xc43f mem 0xf0100000-0xf01fffff,0xf0201000-0xf0201fff irq 2 at device 9.0 on pci0 fxp1: port 0xc800-0xc83f mem 0xf0000000-0xf00fffff,0xf0202000-0xf0202fff irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 My sound card overlaps with fxp0, and fxp1 overlaps with the HighPoint controller ... Grasping at straws here ... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 11:19:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (SHW39-29.accesscable.net [24.138.39.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F9E37B719; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:19:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f24JJiR25232; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:19:44 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:19:44 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Manfred Antar Cc: John Baldwin , Subject: RE: Using serial console to debug system hangs ... In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010304101245.00a6bbb0@pozo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Manfred Antar wrote: > You have to recompile the boot stuff also, after changing the line in make.conf: > # The default serial console speed is 9600. Set the speed to a larger value > # for better interactive response. > # > BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED= 57600 > > Then cd /sys/boot ; make depend all install. > I forget if you then need to relabel the disk or not. > ie : > disklabel -B da0 this worked great, thanks ...disklabel wasn't required, it appears ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 11:21:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (SHW39-29.accesscable.net [24.138.39.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1632D37B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:21:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f24JLbE25239; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:21:37 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:21:37 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: John Baldwin Cc: Subject: RE: Using serial console to debug system hangs ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > > Wow, that was painful ... after 2 hrs, I got as far as: > > Yeah, it spews out a lot of crap. :-/ You prolly want to use a 115200 serial > console if at all possible. Should've mentioned that earlier.. Okay, I'm up to 115200, still a lot of crap ;) Any lower mask I can set things at to get enough info, without so much flowing up the screen? I can understand why she's so unresponsive, just wondering if there is a way of reducing the amount of debugging without losing too much ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 11:23:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from roaming.cacheboy.net (roaming.cacheboy.net [203.56.168.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD6A37B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:23:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adrian@roaming.cacheboy.net) Received: (from adrian@localhost) by roaming.cacheboy.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f24JOYd02748; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:24:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from adrian) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:24:34 +0100 From: Adrian Chadd To: John Baldwin Cc: Edwin Culp , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mount: /dev/ad0s1e: File name too long Message-ID: <20010304202434.A2728@roaming.cacheboy.net> References: <983566112.3aa0072037e2a@Mail.MexComUSA.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 01:01:42PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 02, 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 02-Mar-01 Edwin Culp wrote: > > I just found something new in current. When I rebooted with todays current, > > it > > put me into single user with the following message: > > > > mount: /dev/ad0s1e: File name too long > > > > The problem seems to be the directory that I have been mounting it under for > > a > > couple of years. /var/ftp/release If I make it shorter like, /mnt. it > > works > > fine. > > > > Not a big deal, easy to work around and I haven't made a release since the > > begining of February :-). > > Blame Adrian Chadd (adrian@FreeBSD.org) :) Apparently the limit he's enforcing > on mount names is rather short... :) You know, I would have picked this one up if my current machine had long mount paths. :-) My apologies for this and procfs/alpha breakages. For those who asked, I'll MFC this to -stable once its settled down a little. There are a few other bits I need to do that have been pointed out to me before I'm happy with the change. Adrian -- Adrian Chadd "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you have to support for a lifetime." -- rec.humor.funny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 11:52:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C6837B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:52:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA43591; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:52:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:52:35 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200103041952.OAA43591@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Peter Dufault Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Posix feature tests update In-Reply-To: <200103041912.f24JCYq46536@hda.hda.com> References: <200103041912.f24JCYq46536@hda.hda.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > Critique, please. I have almost completely finished this work. Please join the freebsd-standards@bostonradio.org mailing-list, where the patches were posted several months ago, and where hopefully more discussion can still take place. I have not had time recently to update the patches but will hopefully be able to do so soon. (I'm in the process of buying a home and my non-work time for most of this quarter has been taken up by this process.) -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 12:53:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hda.hda.com (host65.hda.com [63.104.68.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4872E37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:53:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dufault@hda.hda.com) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f24Kpjd46871; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:51:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dufault) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <200103042051.f24Kpjd46871@hda.hda.com> Subject: Re: Posix feature tests update In-Reply-To: <200103041952.OAA43591@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> from Garrett Wollman at "Mar 4, 2001 02:52:35 pm" To: Garrett Wollman Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:51:45 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > < said: > > > Critique, please. > > I have almost completely finished this work. Please join the > freebsd-standards@bostonradio.org mailing-list, where the patches were > posted several months ago, and where hopefully more discussion can > still take place. Good, I shall do so. Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime development, Machine control, HD Associates, Inc. Fail-Safe systems, Agency approval To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 13:12: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC08237B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:12:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f24LDpj02261; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:13:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200103042113.f24LDpj02261@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: well! That root didn't work! Let's try another! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:01:17 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:13:51 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > This happened to me yesterday, and, haha, I didn't notice until I started to > see RSA stuff not working: > > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0a > no such device 'ad' > setrootbyname failed > ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp > Root mount failed: 6 > Mounting root from ufs:da0a > da0: invalid primary partition table: no magic > WARNING: clock lost 358 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! > > > My FreeBSD-alpha PC164 lost it's IDE disk for 4.2 somehow- which I'd just > loaded the 4.2 kernel from- so it decided to run off of da0 instead, which was > -current. Truly a startling turn of events. Shouldn't one stop and ask if the > root one asked for isn't available? There are two schools of thought here. One says "you should try very hard to find a root device", the other says "you should boot only from the exactly correct root device and complain otherwise". I took the first approach because its advocates shouted more loudly than those of the second. Would a louder warning message be enough of a compromised? -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 13:13:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A87837B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:13:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA31918; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:13:42 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:13:36 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Mike Smith Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: well! That root didn't work! Let's try another! In-Reply-To: <200103042113.f24LDpj02261@mass.dis.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > This happened to me yesterday, and, haha, I didn't notice until I started to > > see RSA stuff not working: > > > > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > > Enabled > > da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0a > > no such device 'ad' > > setrootbyname failed > > ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp > > Root mount failed: 6 > > Mounting root from ufs:da0a > > da0: invalid primary partition table: no magic > > WARNING: clock lost 358 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! > > > > > > My FreeBSD-alpha PC164 lost it's IDE disk for 4.2 somehow- which I'd just > > loaded the 4.2 kernel from- so it decided to run off of da0 instead, which was > > -current. Truly a startling turn of events. Shouldn't one stop and ask if the > > root one asked for isn't available? > > There are two schools of thought here. One says "you should try very > hard to find a root device", the other says "you should boot only from > the exactly correct root device and complain otherwise". I took the > first approach because its advocates shouted more loudly than those of > the second. > > Would a louder warning message be enough of a compromised? Actually, no. I think very strongly that you shouldn't always look that hard automatically- you should look hard to find reasonable choices (you could say, da2, 7 and 9 have what *appear* to be filesystems I can use)- but you shouldn't just launch onto them- vital customer data corruption can result. This might also be the source of the 'going nowhere without my init' install failures that so plague alphas? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 13:24:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from moby.geekhouse.net (moby.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093B537B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:24:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp152.geekhouse.net [192.168.1.152]) by moby.geekhouse.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f24LPA183719; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:25:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:24:01 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: The Hermit Hacker Subject: RE: Using serial console to debug system hangs ... Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > >> >> On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: >> > >> > Wow, that was painful ... after 2 hrs, I got as far as: >> >> Yeah, it spews out a lot of crap. :-/ You prolly want to use a 115200 >> serial >> console if at all possible. Should've mentioned that earlier.. > > Okay, I'm up to 115200, still a lot of crap ;) Any lower mask I can set > things at to get enough info, without so much flowing up the screen? I > can understand why she's so unresponsive, just wondering if there is a way > of reducing the amount of debugging without losing too much ... Well. Currnetly what 0x1200 logs is KTR_PROC and KTR_INTR, so it logs all incoming threaded interrupts as well as context switches, etc. If the machine hagns, it is very helpful to know if a) we are still getting interrupts at all (such as clock interrupts, which I can tell beecause the softclock swi thread get scheduled to execute.) and b) what processes were doing what when the machien hung. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 13:24:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from moby.geekhouse.net (moby.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE54437B71B for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:24:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp152.geekhouse.net [192.168.1.152]) by moby.geekhouse.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f24LP8183711; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:25:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:23:59 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: The Hermit Hacker Subject: RE: Using serial console to debug system hangs ... Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Manfred Antar Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Manfred Antar wrote: > >> You have to recompile the boot stuff also, after changing the line in >> make.conf: >> # The default serial console speed is 9600. Set the speed to a larger value >> # for better interactive response. >> # >> BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED= 57600 >> >> Then cd /sys/boot ; make depend all install. >> I forget if you then need to relabel the disk or not. >> ie : >> disklabel -B da0 > > this worked great, thanks ...disklabel wasn't required, it appears ... It is to update boot2. However, you don't have to do that if you don't want. You can just boot on a normal console then break into the loader and type 'set console=comconsole' to switch over to the serial console. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 13:52:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from charger.oldcity.dca.net (charger.oldcity.dca.net [207.245.82.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4AC37B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:52:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@wact.net) Received: from wact.net (216-158-43-107.wlm.dca.net [216.158.43.107]) by charger.oldcity.dca.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/DCANET) with ESMTP id QAA25996 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:52:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3AA2B8E6.45CA2146@wact.net> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 16:51:34 -0500 From: Tom Uffner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en, es, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: 5.0-20010304-CURRENT panics during boot on Sony Vaio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG all of the snapshots since the 24th have exhibited this same or very similar behavior. when booting from the kern & mfsroot floppies i get: . . . unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources pccard: card inserted, slot 0 kernel trap 9 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while it kernel mode instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc02e3858 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc78c8f50 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc78c8f64 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 19 (irq9: uhci0) trap number = 9 panic: general protection fault i only get this on my vaio (PCG-XG9); several other pc's i tried these boot floppies on boot and run sysinstall just fine. none of my other test boxes have USB though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 14:17:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABC737B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:17:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jazepeda@pacbell.net) Received: from zippy.pacbell.net ([207.214.149.235]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G9P00H6L1WYZR@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:17:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by zippy.pacbell.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6A0EA17FE; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:17:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:17:16 -0800 From: Alex Zepeda Subject: Re: More on system hangs ... IRQ related? In-reply-to: ; from scrappy@hub.org on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 03:18:39PM -0400 To: current@freebsd.org Message-id: <20010304141716.A704@zippy.mybox.zip> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 03:18:39PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > My sound card overlaps with fxp0, and fxp1 overlaps with the > HighPoint controller ... > > Grasping at straws here ... Ditch the HPT366, it's crap and will cause system instabilities with "fast" hard drives. I'm not sure what you have attached to it, but I've had problems with {either,both} an IBM ATA100 HDD and a Western Digital ATA66 drive attached. Apparently the ATA100 counterpart from HighPoint isn't so bad. - alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 14:23:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from moby.geekhouse.net (moby.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8140837B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:23:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp152.geekhouse.net [192.168.1.152]) by moby.geekhouse.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f24MOC183911; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:24:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:23:02 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: The Hermit Hacker Subject: RE: More on system hangs ... IRQ related? Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > Morning ... What exactly hangs the machine, just starting X? Can you get it to hang doing, say, a buildworld? -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 14:47:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (SHW39-29.accesscable.net [24.138.39.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AD737B71A; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:47:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f24MlSb54356; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:47:28 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:47:09 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: John Baldwin Cc: Subject: RE: More on system hangs ... IRQ related? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > > Morning ... > > What exactly hangs the machine, just starting X? Can you get it to > hang doing, say, a buildworld? Its alot harder to hang on a buildworld ... and not consistent, nor near as fast. startx will kill it each and every time based on a 'normal boot' ... the reason I was curious about the IRQs is that if I 'disabled' everything on the machine (ifconfig down the two ethernets), it appeared that X would actually keep running, where normally it would hang very quickly ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 15: 3:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E6737B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:03:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jazepeda@pacbell.net) Received: from zippy.pacbell.net ([207.214.149.235]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G9P001KM3WJD6@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:00:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by zippy.pacbell.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2BBD0181A; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:00:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:00:15 -0800 From: Alex Zepeda Subject: Re: More on system hangs ... IRQ related? In-reply-to: ; from scrappy@hub.org on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 06:47:09PM -0400 To: current@freebsd.org Message-id: <20010304150015.B1429@zippy.mybox.zip> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 06:47:09PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Its alot harder to hang on a buildworld ... and not consistent, nor near > as fast. startx will kill it each and every time based on a 'normal boot' > ... the reason I was curious about the IRQs is that if I 'disabled' > everything on the machine (ifconfig down the two ethernets), it appeared > that X would actually keep running, where normally it would hang very > quickly ... Have you tried your system without the highpoint? Or with no drives attached to it? There *are* known problems with this controller. - alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 15:11:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (SHW39-29.accesscable.net [24.138.39.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBABD37B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:11:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f24NBJK54508; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:11:23 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:11:19 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Alex Zepeda Cc: Subject: Re: More on system hangs ... IRQ related? In-Reply-To: <20010304141716.A704@zippy.mybox.zip> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Alex Zepeda wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 03:18:39PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > My sound card overlaps with fxp0, and fxp1 overlaps with the > > HighPoint controller ... > > > > Grasping at straws here ... > > Ditch the HPT366, it's crap and will cause system instabilities with > "fast" hard drives. I'm not sure what you have attached to it, but I've > had problems with {either,both} an IBM ATA100 HDD and a Western Digital > ATA66 drive attached. Apparently the ATA100 counterpart from HighPoint > isn't so bad. Okay, everything in my box is SCSI, so I'm not suspecting the HPT... its more the pcm & fxp that I'm thinking ... how does the OS handle having both devices hit simultaneously on the same IRQ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 15:11:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from moby.geekhouse.net (moby.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B7E37B71C for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:11:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp152.geekhouse.net [192.168.1.152]) by moby.geekhouse.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f24NCH184084; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:12:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3AA2B8E6.45CA2146@wact.net> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:11:07 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Tom Uffner Subject: RE: 5.0-20010304-CURRENT panics during boot on Sony Vaio Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 04-Mar-01 Tom Uffner wrote: > all of the snapshots since the 24th have exhibited this same or > very similar behavior. Does it happen for snapshots before the 24th? -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 15:18:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33AB37B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:18:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f24NJpj03499; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:19:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200103042319.f24NJpj03499@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: well! That root didn't work! Let's try another! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:13:36 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:19:51 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > There are two schools of thought here. One says "you should try very > > hard to find a root device", the other says "you should boot only from > > the exactly correct root device and complain otherwise". I took the > > first approach because its advocates shouted more loudly than those of > > the second. > > > > Would a louder warning message be enough of a compromised? > > Actually, no. I think very strongly that you shouldn't always look that hard > automatically- you should look hard to find reasonable choices (you could say, > da2, 7 and 9 have what *appear* to be filesystems I can use)- but you > shouldn't just launch onto them- vital customer data corruption can result. It doesn't even try that hard; on the Alpha, we try the entry from /etc/fstab, and if that fails, we try da0. The only less-aggressive option is to not try da0. > This might also be the source of the 'going nowhere without my init' install > failures that so plague alphas? No, these are caused by sysinstall (probably libdisk) exiting without a useful diagnostic. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 15:21:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from moby.geekhouse.net (moby.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0B537B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:21:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp152.geekhouse.net [192.168.1.152]) by moby.geekhouse.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f24NLl184131; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:21:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:20:37 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: The Hermit Hacker Subject: Re: More on system hangs ... IRQ related? Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, Alex Zepeda Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Alex Zepeda wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 03:18:39PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: >> >> > My sound card overlaps with fxp0, and fxp1 overlaps with the >> > HighPoint controller ... >> > >> > Grasping at straws here ... >> >> Ditch the HPT366, it's crap and will cause system instabilities with >> "fast" hard drives. I'm not sure what you have attached to it, but I've >> had problems with {either,both} an IBM ATA100 HDD and a Western Digital >> ATA66 drive attached. Apparently the ATA100 counterpart from HighPoint >> isn't so bad. > > Okay, everything in my box is SCSI, so I'm not suspecting the HPT... its > more the pcm & fxp that I'm thinking ... > > how does the OS handle having both devices hit simultaneously on the same > IRQ? The IRQ fires and is masked. We then run both handlers, one after the other, and when they have finished re-enable the IRQ. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 16:49:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDE337B719; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:49:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f250n1d28449; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:49:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200103050049.f250n1d28449@harmony.village.org> To: Manfred Antar Subject: Re: Using serial console to debug system hangs ... Cc: The Hermit Hacker , John Baldwin , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:16:33 PST." <5.0.2.1.2.20010304101245.00a6bbb0@pozo.com> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010304101245.00a6bbb0@pozo.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 17:49:01 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <5.0.2.1.2.20010304101245.00a6bbb0@pozo.com> Manfred Antar writes: : Then cd /sys/boot ; make depend all install. : I forget if you then need to relabel the disk or not. : ie : : disklabel -B da0 I've noticed in the past that FreeBSD uss the com speed of the boot blocks. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 17:18: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from charger.oldcity.dca.net (charger.oldcity.dca.net [207.245.82.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB89A37B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:18:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@wact.net) Received: from wact.net (216-158-43-107.wlm.dca.net [216.158.43.107]) by charger.oldcity.dca.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/DCANET) with ESMTP id UAA14503; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:17:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3AA2E917.48752E2A@wact.net> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:17:11 -0500 From: Tom Uffner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en, es, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0-20010304-CURRENT panics during boot on Sony Vaio References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin wrote: > > On 04-Mar-01 Tom Uffner wrote: > > all of the snapshots since the 24th have exhibited this same or > > very similar behavior. > > Does it happen for snapshots before the 24th? > no, it does not, at least not for the 5.0-20010210-CURRENT snap. it boots from the floppies and once installed, from the disk. oh well, so much for the idea that it would be easier to get past the libc change by installing a snapshot... Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-20010210-CURRENT #0: Sat Feb 10 16:04:54 GMT 2001 root@usw2.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 496311413 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (496.31-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x681 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) avail memory = 125415424 (122476K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0506000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled WARNING: Driver mistake: destroy_dev on 154/0 Using $PIR table, 8 entries at 0xc00fdf40 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfc90-0xfc9f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xfca0-0xfcbf irq 9 at dev ice 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at 7.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at 8.0 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0xfc8c-0xfc8f,0xfcc0-0xfcff mem 0xfedf8000-0x fedfffff irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0 pci0: at 10.0 (no driver attached) pcic-pci0: at device 12.0 on pci0 pcic-pci1: at device 12.1 on pci0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 pcic0: at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 on isa0 pcic0: Polling mode pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 pmtimer0 on isa0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sn0: ioaddr is 0x300 sn0: test1 failed vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources pccard: card inserted, slot 0 ata1-slave: ata_command: timeout waiting for intr ata1-slave: identify failed ad0: 17301MB [35152/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: DVD-ROM at ata1-master using PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted lp0: IPv6 not supported ed1 at port 0x300-0x31f irq 3 slot 0 on pccard0 ed1: address 00:e0:98:70:10:ee, type Linksys (16 bit) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 18:14:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.butya.kz (butya-gw.butya.kz [212.154.129.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A4237B719; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:14:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bp@butya.kz) Received: by relay.butya.kz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 43E5C28959; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:14:45 +0600 (ALMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.butya.kz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DC928928; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:14:45 +0600 (ALMT) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:14:45 +0600 (ALMT) From: Boris Popov To: Adrian Chadd Cc: John Baldwin , Edwin Culp , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mount: /dev/ad0s1e: File name too long In-Reply-To: <20010304202434.A2728@roaming.cacheboy.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > Blame Adrian Chadd (adrian@FreeBSD.org) :) Apparently the limit he's enforcing > > on mount names is rather short... :) > > For those who asked, I'll MFC this to -stable once its settled down > a little. There are a few other bits I need to do that have been pointed > out to me before I'm happy with the change. I'm unsure if this necessary (and valid) because these things make incompatible changes in API. Lets keep at least -stable consistent :) P.S. Even minor MFC of kobj gave me a huge heap of mail... -- Boris Popov http://www.butya.kz/~bp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 18:28:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B03D37B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:28:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from amyfoub@videotron.ca) Received: from guillaume ([24.200.37.38]) by VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9PDIG01.38O; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:27:52 -0500 Message-ID: <001e01c0a51b$9a1bd830$0a0110ac@guillaume> From: "Guillaume" To: Cc: Subject: Error making kernel Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:25:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I upgraded to the lastest -CURRENT (CVSup/make buildworld/make installworld) yesterday and now I have a problem to compile my kernel. When I do a make I get this error: .... .... ===> fdesc ===> fxp ===> if_disc ===> if_ef ===> if_ppp ===> if_sl make: don't know how to make machine/lock.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/BSD. ---------------------------------------------------- My kernel config: machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident BSD maxusers 32 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options NTFS options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options DEVFS #Device Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering #options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc 1 # At keyboard controller device atkbd # at keyboard device psm # psm mouse device vga # VGA screen # splash screen/screen saver device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc 1 # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx # Power management support (see NOTES for more options) device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # Audio support device pcm # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. device miibus # MII bus support device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. device random # Entropy device device loop # Network loopback device ether # Ethernet support device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif 2 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling #device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 options IPDIVERT options MROUTING options IPFILTER options DUMMYNET options BRIDGE options QUOTA Guillaume amyfoub@videotron.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 19:11:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from moby.geekhouse.net (moby.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BE137B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:11:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp152.geekhouse.net [192.168.1.152]) by moby.geekhouse.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f253CC184920; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:12:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3AA2E917.48752E2A@wact.net> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 19:11:01 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Tom Uffner Subject: Re: 5.0-20010304-CURRENT panics during boot on Sony Vaio Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 05-Mar-01 Tom Uffner wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: >> >> On 04-Mar-01 Tom Uffner wrote: >> > all of the snapshots since the 24th have exhibited this same or >> > very similar behavior. >> >> Does it happen for snapshots before the 24th? >> > no, it does not, at least not for the 5.0-20010210-CURRENT snap. > it boots from the floppies and once installed, from the disk. > > oh well, so much for the idea that it would be easier to get past > the libc change by installing a snapshot... Can you try cvsupping the src/sys tree one day at a time to see what day the kernel starts breaking for you? -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 19:25:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDE937B719; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:25:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f253PLS67663; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:25:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:25:20 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Mike Smith , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: well! That root didn't work! Let's try another! Message-ID: <20010304192520.B58979@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <200103042113.f24LDpj02261@mass.dis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 01:13:36PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 01:13:36PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > This might also be the source of the 'going nowhere without my init' install > failures that so plague alphas? No it is libdisk doing *err()* calls!! A library should *NOT* be exiting on its own. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 19:42:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (SHW39-29.accesscable.net [24.138.39.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B77637B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:42:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f253gML56444; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:42:26 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:42:22 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: John Baldwin Cc: , Alex Zepeda Subject: Re: More on system hangs ... IRQ related? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Alex Zepeda wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 03:18:39PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > >> > >> > My sound card overlaps with fxp0, and fxp1 overlaps with the > >> > HighPoint controller ... > >> > > >> > Grasping at straws here ... > >> > >> Ditch the HPT366, it's crap and will cause system instabilities with > >> "fast" hard drives. I'm not sure what you have attached to it, but I've > >> had problems with {either,both} an IBM ATA100 HDD and a Western Digital > >> ATA66 drive attached. Apparently the ATA100 counterpart from HighPoint > >> isn't so bad. > > > > Okay, everything in my box is SCSI, so I'm not suspecting the HPT... its > > more the pcm & fxp that I'm thinking ... > > > > how does the OS handle having both devices hit simultaneously on the same > > IRQ? > > The IRQ fires and is masked. We then run both handlers, one after the other, > and when they have finished re-enable the IRQ. Okay, are there any known problems with the SB128 cards? Figuring that it couldn't hurt to remove it, I did ... so far, X hasn't hung ... not conclusive yet, am going to let it run over night, with KDE2 compiling in the background, and see if its still runnin in the morning ... if it is, will try putting the SB128 back in and seeing if it once more causes it to hang ... But, so far, so good *cross fingers* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 21:35: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pozo.com (pozo.com [216.101.162.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A204A37B719; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:35:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from null@pozo.com) Received: from dual.pozo.com (dual.pozo.com [216.101.162.51]) by pozo.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f255YvZ03436; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:34:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from null@pozo.com) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010304212422.00ab31c0@pozo.com> X-Sender: null@pozo.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:34:56 -0800 To: Warner Losh From: Manfred Antar Subject: Re: Using serial console to debug system hangs ... Cc: The Hermit Hacker , John Baldwin , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200103050049.f250n1d28449@harmony.village.org> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010304101245.00a6bbb0@pozo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:49 PM 3/4/2001 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: >In message <5.0.2.1.2.20010304101245.00a6bbb0@pozo.com> Manfred Antar writes: >: Then cd /sys/boot ; make depend all install. >: I forget if you then need to relabel the disk or not. >: ie : >: disklabel -B da0 > >I've noticed in the past that FreeBSD uss the com speed of the boot >blocks. > >Warner Yes I thought so. There is a web page some where that tell's exactly how to set this up. I just found it: http://www.freebsd.org:80/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html Manfred ================================== || null@pozo.com || || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 21:44:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from atlrel2.hp.com (atlrel2.hp.com [156.153.255.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC1A37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:44:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from srrao@india.hp.com) Received: from redsea.india.hp.com (redsea.india.hp.com [15.76.97.3]) by atlrel2.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9B6ED7 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:44:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from india.hp.com (ebnt9772.india.hp.com [15.76.97.72]) by redsea.india.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.3 SMKit7.02) id LAA05793 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:16:34 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <3AA327AA.123762BC@india.hp.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:14:10 +0530 From: Srinivasa Rao X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 21:57:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E3637B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:57:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from srrao@india.hp.com) Received: from redsea.india.hp.com (redsea.india.hp.com [15.76.97.3]) by palrel3.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE1C180 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:57:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from india.hp.com (ebnt9772.india.hp.com [15.76.97.72]) by redsea.india.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.3 SMKit7.02) id LAA06332 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:29:48 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <3AA32AC4.9219B481@india.hp.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:27:24 +0530 From: Srinivasa Rao X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe freebsd-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 22:30:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (draco.over-yonder.net [198.78.58.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BC337B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:30:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gh@over-yonder.net) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 1012) id A6EE462D08; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:30:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:30:49 -0600 From: GH To: Srinivasa Rao Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (no subject) Message-ID: <20010305003049.A8326@over-yonder.net> References: <3AA32AC4.9219B481@india.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA32AC4.9219B481@india.hp.com>; from srrao@india.hp.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 11:27:24AM +0530 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 11:27:24AM +0530, some SMTP stream spewed forth: > unsubscribe freebsd-current You need to send messages like this to majordomo@freebsd.org By the way, we tell you this at the bottom of every mail from the list. ;-) dan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 22:41:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A4E37B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:41:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f256ecm76676; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:40:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:40:37 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: More on system hangs ... IRQ related? Message-ID: <20010304224037.B76607@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: current@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from scrappy@hub.org on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:42:22PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:42:22PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Okay, are there any known problems with the SB128 cards? Figuring that it > couldn't hurt to remove it, I did ... so far, X hasn't hung ... not Hum... interesting. I also have a PCI SB128 card and one hang when I was using mpg123 and then started a newfs. The SB128's IRQ isn't shared with anything else. But I was also having much hangs on heavy disk traffic. http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/intr2.patch has fixed my problems so far. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 23: 1:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (draco.over-yonder.net [198.78.58.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181E737B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:01:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gh@over-yonder.net) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 1012) id D709262D08; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:01:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:01:23 -0600 From: GH To: current@FreeBSD.org Cc: The Hermit Hacker Subject: Re: More on system hangs ... IRQ related? Message-ID: <20010305010123.B8428@over-yonder.net> References: <20010304224037.B76607@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010304224037.B76607@dragon.nuxi.com>; from TrimYourCc@NUXI.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 10:40:37PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 10:40:37PM -0800, some SMTP stream spewed forth: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:42:22PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > Okay, are there any known problems with the SB128 cards? Figuring that it > > couldn't hurt to remove it, I did ... so far, X hasn't hung ... not > > Hum... interesting. I also have a PCI SB128 card and one hang when I was > using mpg123 and then started a newfs. The SB128's IRQ isn't shared with > anything else. But I was also having much hangs on heavy disk traffic. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/intr2.patch has fixed my problems so far. This seems to be my luck: -- The file http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/intr2.patch does not exist at this server. -- Where can I otherwise get this patch? Does anybody know if/how this affects the SoundBlaster Live!? I have seen XFree86-4 crashes frequently, but only while using the soundcard (specifically, while using xmms). I suspected the X server, originally, because I am running HEAD CVS, but it is seeming more and more like something related to the soundcard could be the culprit. Basically, the machine locks solid and requires a hard reboot. I have no crash dumps, or any log entries, just a big fat hard lock. It usually crashes if I am playing audio (mp3's) and doing something like a buildworld or a make World of XFree86. Thanks for anything, dan > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 4 23:24:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3D937B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:24:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA10091; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:24:33 +1100 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:24:25 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Boris Popov Cc: Adrian Chadd , John Baldwin , Edwin Culp , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mount: /dev/ad0s1e: File name too long In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Boris Popov wrote: > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > > > Blame Adrian Chadd (adrian@FreeBSD.org) :) Apparently the limit he's enforcing > > > on mount names is rather short... :) > > > > For those who asked, I'll MFC this to -stable once its settled down > > a little. There are a few other bits I need to do that have been pointed > > out to me before I'm happy with the change. > > I'm unsure if this necessary (and valid) because these things make > incompatible changes in API. Lets keep at least -stable consistent :) I think I prefer the old behaviour. The names preserved by the kernel can't possibly remain valid until unmount in all cases. Examples: - pathnames relative to the current directory work. These only remain valid if the process that does the mount also does the unmount (and doesn't chdir). - the pathnames may involve symlinks that go away or change before unmount. The fix for this is: don't do that. This is also a reaonable fix for long pathnames -- don't use them unless you really have to. Long names even mess up the most common uses of the preserved names -- displaying them in df, mount, etc. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 0:34:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (smtp.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748DB37B718; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:34:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (root@vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.112]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f258Xqq32570; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:33:54 +0200 Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f258XqN77814; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:33:52 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3AA34F6E.7CEAE74@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:33:51 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Uffner Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 5.0-20010304-CURRENT panics during boot on Sony Vaio References: <3AA2B8E6.45CA2146@wact.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tom Uffner wrote: > all of the snapshots since the 24th have exhibited this same or > very similar behavior. > > when booting from the kern & mfsroot floppies i get: > > . > . > . > unknown: can't assign resources > unknown: can't assign resources > unknown: can't assign resources > unknown: can't assign resources > pccard: card inserted, slot 0 > kernel trap 9 with interrupts disabled > > Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while it kernel mode > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc02e3858 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xc78c8f50 > frame pointer = 0x10:0xc78c8f64 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 19 (irq9: uhci0) > trap number = 9 > panic: general protection fault Looks like another `ltr %si' panic. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 0:38:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bbnmg1.net.external.hp.com (bbnmg1.net.external.hp.com [192.6.76.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDAA37B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:38:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelc@tmbbobmc.bbn.hp.com) Received: from hpbbn.bbn.hp.com (hpbbn.bbn.hp.com [15.138.8.14]) by bbnmg1.net.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212BB270 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:37:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from tmbbobmc.bbn.hp.com (tmbbobmc.bbn.hp.com [15.136.123.54]) by hpbbn.bbn.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit6.0.6) with ESMTP id JAA22367 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:38:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (michaelc@localhost) by tmbbobmc.bbn.hp.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f258cGH01308 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:38:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelc@tmbbobmc.bbn.hp.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:38:15 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Class Reply-To: To: Subject: USB-Devices working on 5.0-current? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, on the weekend I was trying to play with two USB-devices on my FBSD-5.0-current (cvsupped 3.2.2001) without success. The first device is a HP DeskJet 990-Printer that is recognized by the ulpt-driver. (Unfortunately I am here at work and do not have the dmesg-output at my hands, if needed I can deliver that tonight from home). When I try to send something to /dev/ulpt0, it hangs in the open for about 5 minutes and thats it. But usbdevs shows the device! The other device I tried was a Kodak DC4800-Camera. It is not displayed by usbdevs at all. (I know it is not supported, but there is a linux-java-program that supports it, that I hoped to port to FBSD). So my question right now is, has anyone USB-devices running on a 5.0-current SMP-system these days? I just wanted to make sure that I am not digging in already know problems. TIA Michael P.S. the system I am using is a SMP-System 2x350Mhz-PII on an Intel BX-Board (Gigabyte) using UHCI for USB. ___________________________________________________________________________ Michael Class E-Mail: michael_class@hp.com E-Business Solution Division ___________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 4:39:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (mobile.acadiau.ca [131.162.137.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D224C37B71A; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 04:39:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f25CMhA61162; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:22:44 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:22:43 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: John Baldwin Cc: , Alex Zepeda Subject: Re: More on system hangs ... IRQ related? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > > On 04-Mar-01 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Alex Zepeda wrote: > > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 03:18:39PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > >> > > >> > My sound card overlaps with fxp0, and fxp1 overlaps with the > > >> > HighPoint controller ... > > >> > > > >> > Grasping at straws here ... > > >> > > >> Ditch the HPT366, it's crap and will cause system instabilities with > > >> "fast" hard drives. I'm not sure what you have attached to it, but I've > > >> had problems with {either,both} an IBM ATA100 HDD and a Western Digital > > >> ATA66 drive attached. Apparently the ATA100 counterpart from HighPoint > > >> isn't so bad. > > > > > > Okay, everything in my box is SCSI, so I'm not suspecting the HPT... its > > > more the pcm & fxp that I'm thinking ... > > > > > > how does the OS handle having both devices hit simultaneously on the same > > > IRQ? > > > > The IRQ fires and is masked. We then run both handlers, one after the other, > > and when they have finished re-enable the IRQ. > > Okay, are there any known problems with the SB128 cards? Figuring that it > couldn't hurt to remove it, I did ... so far, X hasn't hung ... not > conclusive yet, am going to let it run over night, with KDE2 compiling in > the background, and see if its still runnin in the morning ... if it is, > will try putting the SB128 back in and seeing if it once more causes it to > hang ... > > But, so far, so good *cross fingers* Of course, as everyone knew (and I wished against unsuccessfully), it still hung :( Ah well, will re-tackle it when I get back from SF, even if it means leaving it overnight ... One question ... yesterday, when I did leave it running, and came back to my computer, my xterm that I had kermit running in was full of "binary data" ... you know, the hieroglyphics? I just started up a new xterm/kermit to reset it, but if it hangs in that state, I'm definitely not going to have anything to show anyone ... is there any reason why there are binary codes (if I want it scroll, I can see the occasional 'diamond' popping up on the screen, and hear the occasional bell) in that output, and any way of suppressing them? Thanks ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 5: 6:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC3237B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:06:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f25D6O690687; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:06:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:06:24 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: GH Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: More on system hangs ... IRQ related? Message-ID: <20010305050623.A85547@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <20010304224037.B76607@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010305010123.B8428@over-yonder.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010305010123.B8428@over-yonder.net>; from grasshacker@over-yonder.net on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:01:23AM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:01:23AM -0600, GH wrote: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/intr2.patch has fixed my problems so far. > > This seems to be my luck: > -- > The file > > http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/intr2.patch > > does not exist at this server. > -- > > Where can I otherwise get this patch? John has committed it now. So you should be getting it soon in your usual way. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 8: 5: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from moby.geekhouse.net (moby.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0617A37B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:05:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp152.geekhouse.net [192.168.1.152]) by moby.geekhouse.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25G5o187830; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:05:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010305010123.B8428@over-yonder.net> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:04:36 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: GH Subject: Re: More on system hangs ... IRQ related? Cc: The Hermit Hacker , current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 05-Mar-01 GH wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 10:40:37PM -0800, some SMTP stream spewed forth: >> On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:42:22PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: >> > Okay, are there any known problems with the SB128 cards? Figuring that it >> > couldn't hurt to remove it, I did ... so far, X hasn't hung ... not >> >> Hum... interesting. I also have a PCI SB128 card and one hang when I was >> using mpg123 and then started a newfs. The SB128's IRQ isn't shared with >> anything else. But I was also having much hangs on heavy disk traffic. >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/intr2.patch has fixed my problems so far. > > This seems to be my luck: > -- > The file > > http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/intr2.patch > > does not exist at this server. > -- It's ~jhb/patches/intr2.patch, but it has been committed, so just cvusp. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 9:12: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE5137B718; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:11:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f25HBpd58569; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:11:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200103051711.f25HBpd58569@harmony.village.org> To: "Guillaume" Subject: Re: Error making kernel Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:25:53 EST." <001e01c0a51b$9a1bd830$0a0110ac@guillaume> References: <001e01c0a51b$9a1bd830$0a0110ac@guillaume> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:11:51 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <001e01c0a51b$9a1bd830$0a0110ac@guillaume> "Guillaume" writes: : ===> if_sl : make: don't know how to make machine/lock.h. Stop First, run make depend. If that doesn't fix your problem, then cd src/sys/modules and do a find . -name .depend -delete. Stale copies of .depend wind up in there was well. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 11:41:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC3037B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:41:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from kargl@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f25JhhK01196 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:43:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kargl) From: "Steven G. Kargl" Message-Id: <200103051943.f25JhhK01196@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: top, MAXMEM, sysctl, and missing memory? To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:43:43 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've recently upgraded a system to 384 MB of memory, which the system detects during boot. Dmesg reports real memory = 402587648 (393152K bytes) avail memory = 387903488 (378812K bytes) with or without 'options MAXMEM "(384*1024)"' and "sysctl -a | grep hw" reports hw.physmem: 399212544 hw.usermem: 368316416 hw.pagesize: 4096 hw.availpages: 97298 However, if I fire up top(1), she reports Mem: 5390K Active, 5322K Inact, 7627K Wired, 13K Cache, 48M Buf, 76M Free Simply addition of the numbers from top(1) comes to about 141 MB. Looking at top(1) sourcesi shows that she uses the following syctl variables: vm.stats.vm.v_active_count: 5169 vm.stats.vm.v_inactive_count: 5116 vm.stats.vm.v_wire_count: 7550 vm.stats.vm.v_cache_count: 24 vm.stats.vm.v_free_count: 77901 and the total page_count is vm.stats.vm.v_page_count: 95760 which nearly agrees with hw.availpages. It appears that the recent changes to top(1) to use sysctl may have gotten the page size, but I haven't determined where to fix her. So, is the system using all 384 MB of memory or is there another kernel config option to set besides MAXMEM. -- Steve http://troutmask.apl.washington.edu/~kargl/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 11:52:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mgate04.so-net.ne.jp (mgate04.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244CB37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:52:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ipfw@ya3.so-net.ne.jp) Received: from mail.ya3.so-net.ne.jp (mspool11.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.248.11]) by mgate04.so-net.ne.jp (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta9/3.6W01022711) with ESMTP id EAA05645; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 04:52:48 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (pd5ceab.kngwnt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.213.206.171]) by mail.ya3.so-net.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W01022316) with ESMTP id EAA06399; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 04:52:47 +0900 (JST) To: kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top, MAXMEM, sysctl, and missing memory? From: Yoshihiro Koya In-Reply-To: <200103051943.f25JhhK01196@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <200103051943.f25JhhK01196@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010306045849A.ipfw@ya3.so-net.ne.jp> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 04:58:49 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 37 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, From: "Steven G. Kargl" Subject: top, MAXMEM, sysctl, and missing memory? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:43:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <200103051943.f25JhhK01196@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> > However, if I fire up top(1), she reports > > Mem: 5390K Active, 5322K Inact, 7627K Wired, 13K Cache, 48M Buf, 76M Free > > Simply addition of the numbers from top(1) comes to about 141 MB. > Looking at top(1) sourcesi shows that she uses the following > syctl variables: > vm.stats.vm.v_active_count: 5169 > vm.stats.vm.v_inactive_count: 5116 > vm.stats.vm.v_wire_count: 7550 > vm.stats.vm.v_cache_count: 24 > vm.stats.vm.v_free_count: 77901 > and the total page_count is > vm.stats.vm.v_page_count: 95760 > which nearly agrees with hw.availpages. > > It appears that the recent changes to top(1) to use sysctl > may have gotten the page size, but I haven't determined > where to fix her. > > So, is the system using all 384 MB of memory or is there > another kernel config option to set besides MAXMEM. I also have same problem. The top command does not translate the value of page size into KB value maybe. Please see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25545 But, I am not sure that it is a complete solution. koya To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 12: 6:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FA737B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:06:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f25K8lK09600; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:08:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) From: Steve Kargl Message-Id: <200103052008.f25K8lK09600@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: top, MAXMEM, sysctl, and missing memory? In-Reply-To: <20010306045849A.ipfw@ya3.so-net.ne.jp> "from Yoshihiro Koya at Mar 6, 2001 04:58:49 am" To: Yoshihiro Koya Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:08:46 -0800 (PST) Cc: kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yoshihiro Koya wrote: > > > > > So, is the system using all 384 MB of memory or is there > > another kernel config option to set besides MAXMEM. > > I also have same problem. The top command does not translate > the value of page size into KB value maybe. > Please see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25545 > > But, I am not sure that it is a complete solution. > I think this is the correct solution. -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 15:28: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from f19.egroups.com (f19.egroups.com [64.211.240.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6170337B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:28:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from notify-return-current=freebsd.org@yahoogroups.com) X-eGroups-Return: notify-return-current=freebsd.org@yahoogroups.com Received: from [10.1.2.207] by f19.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2001 23:28:01 -0000 Date: 5 Mar 2001 23:26:25 -0000 Message-ID: <983834785.2196.31105.je@yahoogroups.com> From: HipHopProductions moderator Reply-To: confirm-invite-ae1ZS3r=hciWICFbu=jJ0XBk=fU-current=freebsd.org@yahoogroups.com To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Invitation to join the HipHopProductions group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, You've been invited to join the HipHopProductions group, an email group hosted by Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 15:51:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mw.egroups.com (mw.egroups.com [208.50.144.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C14E637B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:51:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from notify-return-current=freebsd.org@yahoogroups.com) X-eGroups-Return: notify-return-current=freebsd.org@yahoogroups.com Received: from [10.1.10.96] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2001 23:51:50 -0000 Date: 5 Mar 2001 23:51:49 -0000 Message-ID: <983836309.96.81922.s5@yahoogroups.com> From: HipHopProductions Moderator To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Welcome to HipHopProductions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Welcome to Hip Hop Promotions eGroup. 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 16:36: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from racine.cybercable.fr (racine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD69E37B71C for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:36:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from clefevre@poboxes.com) Received: (qmail 2769674 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 00:35:58 -0000 Received: from d165.dhcp212-231.cybercable.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.231.165]) (envelope-sender ) by racine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Mar 2001 00:35:58 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f260Zs411417; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:35:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from clefevre@poboxes.com) To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Peter Dufault , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Posix feature tests update References: <200103041912.f24JCYq46536@hda.hda.com> <200103041952.OAA43591@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C In-Reply-To: Garrett Wollman's message of "Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:52:35 -0500 (EST)" From: Cyrille Lefevre Reply-To: clefevre@poboxes.com Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 06 Mar 2001 01:35:50 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Channel Islands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Garrett Wollman writes: > I have almost completely finished this work. Please join the > freebsd-standards@bostonradio.org mailing-list, where the patches were > posted several months ago, and where hopefully more discussion can > still take place. I have not had time recently to update the patches please, how to subscribe to this mailing list ? where are the archives ? thanks in advance. Cyrille. -- home: mailto:clefevre@poboxes.com UNIX is user-friendly; it's just particular work: mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@edf.fr about who it chooses to be friends with. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 17: 6:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BAA37B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:06:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f2618wf00606 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:08:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) From: Steve Kargl Message-Id: <200103060108.f2618wf00606@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: tape device names and devfs To: FreeBSD Current Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:08:58 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What are the names of the tape devices under devfs? troutmask:root[201] dump 3 /var DUMP: Date of this level 3 dump: Mon Mar 5 17:02:02 2001 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: Tue Feb 27 07:01:08 2001 DUMP: Dumping /dev/da0s1e (/var) to /dev/rsa0 DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 7211 tape blocks on 0.19 tape(s). DUMP: Cannot open output "/dev/rsa0". DUMP: Do you want to retry the open?: ("yes" or "no") no DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted. Should dump(8) use /dev/sa0 for the rewind device and /dev/nsa0 for no rewind device? Should /etc/rc.devfs create symlinks from rsa0 and nrsa0 for backwards compatibility? -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 22:30:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35FE37B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:30:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA06512; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:30:54 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:30:51 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Steve Kargl Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: tape device names and devfs In-Reply-To: <200103060108.f2618wf00606@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Steve Kargl wrote: > What are the names of the tape devices under devfs? > > troutmask:root[201] dump 3 /var > DUMP: Date of this level 3 dump: Mon Mar 5 17:02:02 2001 > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: Tue Feb 27 07:01:08 2001 > DUMP: Dumping /dev/da0s1e (/var) to /dev/rsa0 > DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] > DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] > DUMP: estimated 7211 tape blocks on 0.19 tape(s). > DUMP: Cannot open output "/dev/rsa0". > DUMP: Do you want to retry the open?: ("yes" or "no") no > DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted. > > Should dump(8) use /dev/sa0 for the rewind device and > /dev/nsa0 for no rewind device? Should /etc/rc.devfs > create symlinks from rsa0 and nrsa0 for backwards compatibility? Can you give a hint as to which release you're trying this with? Does rc.devfs mean anything at all with -current's devfs? I just changed the sa driver to create the correct aliases. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 5 23: 7: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868C137B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:06:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f2679OZ04542; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:09:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) From: Steve Kargl Message-Id: <200103060709.f2679OZ04542@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: tape device names and devfs In-Reply-To: "from Matthew Jacob at Mar 5, 2001 10:30:51 pm" To: mjacob@feral.com Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:09:24 -0800 (PST) Cc: FreeBSD Current X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Jacob wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > What are the names of the tape devices under devfs? > > > > Should dump(8) use /dev/sa0 for the rewind device and > > /dev/nsa0 for no rewind device? Should /etc/rc.devfs > > create symlinks from rsa0 and nrsa0 for backwards compatibility? > > > Can you give a hint as to which release you're trying this with? FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #2: Mon Mar 5 10:40:22 PST 2001 kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TROUTMASK > > Does rc.devfs mean anything at all with -current's devfs? I just changed the > sa driver to create the correct aliases. > Yes, I use it to set permissions on cd0 and cd0c during boot. I could add "ln -sf /dev/nsa0 /dev/nrsa0" for backwards compatibility. dump.8 and dump(8) both refer explicitly to nsa0 and nrsa0 whereas sa0 and nsa0 are the actual device names in -current. -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 0: 8: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from updraft.jp.freebsd.org (updraft.jp.FreeBSD.ORG [210.157.158.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1548737B719; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:08:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by updraft.jp.freebsd.org (8.11.3+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet id f2687t216570; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:07:56 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Cc: kris@freebsd.org X-Face: '*aj"d@ijeQ:/X}]oM5c5Uz{ZZZk90WPt>a^y4$cGQp8:!H\W=hSM;PuNiidkc]/%,;6VGu e+`&APmz|P;F~OL/QK%;P2vU>\j4X.8@i%j6[%DTs_3J,Fff0)*oHg$A.cDm&jc#pD24WK@{,"Ef!0 P\):.2}8jo-BiZ?X&t$V X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.2 (Poseidon) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 41 From: Makoto MATSUSHITA To: current@freebsd.org Subject: secure/lib/libcrypto: "make -jX buildworld" fix Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:07:40 +0900 Message-Id: <20010306170740Z.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've found that current libcrypto/Makefile is not parallel make(1) unfriendly, since it creates a temporary file to as(1). Followings are sample session log with "make buildworld -j2": perl -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/des/asm:/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/perlasm /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/des/asm/des-586.pl elf 386 > des-586.pl.s ; as des-586.pl.s -o des-586.o perl -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/des/asm:/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/perlasm /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/des/asm/des-586.pl elf 386 > des-586.pl.s ; as des-586.pl.s -o des-586.po perl -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/des/asm:/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/perlasm /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/des/asm/des-586.pl elf 386 > des-586.pl.s ; as des-586.pl.s -o des-586.So des-586.pl.s: Assembler messages: des-586.pl.s:1: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `,'. *** Error code 1 If there is no mean to create *.pl.s, how about using a pipe to pass an assembler code to as(1) ? Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.35 diff -u -r1.35 Makefile --- Makefile 2001/03/04 23:14:50 1.35 +++ Makefile 2001/03/06 07:52:59 @@ -384,12 +384,12 @@ .SUFFIXES: .po .pl .SUFFIXES: .So .pl .pl.o: - perl -I${PERLPATH} $(.ALLSRC) elf ${CPUTYPE:Mi386:S/i//} > $(.PREFIX).pl.s ; ${AS} ${AFLAGS} $(.PREFIX).pl.s -o $(.TARGET) + perl -I${PERLPATH} $(.ALLSRC) elf ${CPUTYPE:Mi386:S/i//} | ${AS} ${AFLAGS} - -o $(.TARGET) .pl.po: - perl -I${PERLPATH} $(.ALLSRC) elf ${CPUTYPE:Mi386:S/i//} > $(.PREFIX).pl.s ; ${AS} ${AFLAGS} $(.PREFIX).pl.s -o $(.TARGET) + perl -I${PERLPATH} $(.ALLSRC) elf ${CPUTYPE:Mi386:S/i//} | ${AS} ${AFLAGS} - -o $(.TARGET) .pl.So: - perl -I${PERLPATH} $(.ALLSRC) elf ${CPUTYPE:Mi386:S/i//} > $(.PREFIX).pl.s ; ${AS} ${AFLAGS} $(.PREFIX).pl.s -o $(.TARGET) + perl -I${PERLPATH} $(.ALLSRC) elf ${CPUTYPE:Mi386:S/i//} | ${AS} ${AFLAGS} - -o $(.TARGET) .endif -- - Makoto `MAR' MATSUSHITA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 0:18:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D8C37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:18:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmlb@dmlb.org) Received: from dmlb.org ([62.253.135.104]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20010306081809.ZTTQ281.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@dmlb.org> for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:18:09 +0000 Received: from dmlb by dmlb.org with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 14aCfZ-0000yk-00 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 08:18:09 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 08:18:09 -0000 (GMT) From: Duncan Barclay To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: if_ed, mii and no PCI? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Just got round to rebuilding a -current kernel on a Libretto 50 with no PCI bus. make depend in sys/compile/WANDERER dies on: In file included from ../../dev/mii/dcphy.c:67: ../../dev/pci/pcivar.h:156: pci_if.h: No such file or directory Do I really need to add PCI... Duncan --- ________________________________________________________________________ Duncan Barclay | God smiles upon the little children, dmlb@dmlb.org | the alcoholics, and the permanently stoned. dmlb@freebsd.org| Steven King To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 0:59:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C910637B718; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:59:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DFB0D66ED4; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:59:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:59:33 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Makoto MATSUSHITA Cc: current@freebsd.org, kris@freebsd.org Subject: Re: secure/lib/libcrypto: "make -jX buildworld" fix Message-ID: <20010306005933.A92634@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010306170740Z.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010306170740Z.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org>; from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:07:40PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:07:40PM +0900, Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote: > If there is no mean to create *.pl.s, how about using a pipe to pass > an assembler code to as(1) ? Sounds reasonable: I'll take a look. Kris --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pKb1Wry0BWjoQKURAhRAAJoCktdBzX7j/9zRz8CvZtRfO+TRXACeLSOR kTIKkIeaHIQ8ttu0J7VbMIQ= =bpLP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 1:35: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513CA37B777 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:34:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f258Bhc90748; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:11:43 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:11:43 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: **HEADS UP** essential setlocale(3) fix Message-ID: <20010305101143.A59427@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Andrey A. Chernov" , current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200103021245.f22CjrQ34193@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010302145210.A6392@sunbay.com> <20010302154227.A7883@sunbay.com> <20010302180024.A65538@nagual.pp.ru> <20010302180554.A23604@sunbay.com> <20010302205853.A67808@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010302205853.A67808@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 08:58:54PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 08:58:54PM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 18:05:54 +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 06:00:25PM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 15:42:27 +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > I am not checking src/ to see what other fixes are required. > > > > The typical fix will be "LC_TIME=C date" -> "LC_ALL=C date", > > > > probably preserving the "LC_TIME=C" setting so that the > > > > upgrade path from the old system isn't broken. > > > > > > I don't think it worth to preserve LC_TIME=C, those parts are not critical > > > > > Hmm, some parts are critical. For example, sys/conf/newvers.sh. > > And what critical happens in worst scenario? > Nothing critical, ``uname -v'' outputs date in LC_TIME locale :-) Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 3: 1: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from euripides.enigma.ie (euripides.enigma.ie [194.106.143.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2438037B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 03:01:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nick@netability.ie) Received: (qmail 30770 invoked by uid 1009); 6 Mar 2001 11:01:02 -0000 From: "Nick Hilliard" Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:01:02 +0000 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: typo in /usr/src/sys/sys/sx.h Message-ID: <20010306110102.B30611@euripides.enigma.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There's a small typo in /usr/src/sys/sys/sx.h which causes kernel builds to break unless INVARIANTS is defined. Patch below against version 1.2 of the file. Nick --- /usr/src/sys/sys/sx.h.orig Tue Mar 6 10:57:31 2001 +++ /usr/src/sys/sys/sx.h Tue Mar 6 10:57:38 2001 @@ -78,7 +78,7 @@ #else /* INVARIANTS */ #define SX_ASSERT_SLOCKED(sx) -#define SX_ASSERT_XLOCKER(sx) +#define SX_ASSERT_XLOCKED(sx) #endif /* INVARIANTS */ #endif /* _KERNEL */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 3:19: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (pop3.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E365E37B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 03:18:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (root@vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.112]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f26BICi17189; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:18:12 +0200 Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f26BIKI85031; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:18:20 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3AA4C772.881BE468@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:18:10 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Duncan Barclay Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: if_ed, mii and no PCI? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Duncan Barclay wrote: > Hi > > Just got round to rebuilding a -current kernel on a Libretto 50 with no PCI bus. > make depend in sys/compile/WANDERER dies on: > In file included from ../../dev/mii/dcphy.c:67: > ../../dev/pci/pcivar.h:156: pci_if.h: No such file or directory > > Do I really need to add PCI... It is sideefect of the following commit (yes, I agree with you that mandatory device pci it is bogus and IMO should be fixed). -Maxim imp 2001/03/03 00:31:37 PST Modified files: sys/modules/ed Makefile sys/dev/ed if_ed.c if_ed_pccard.c if_ed_pci.c if_edreg.h if_edvar.h sys/i386/conf GENERIC NEWCARD Log: Add support for Dlink DL10022 to the ed driver. This is a mii part bolted to a ne-2000 chip. This is necessary for the NetGear FA-410TX and other cards. This also requires you add mii to your kernel if you have an ed driver configured. This code will result in a couple of timeout messages for ed on the impacted cards. Additional work will be needed, but this does work right now, and many people need these cards. Submitted by: Ian Dowse Revision Changes Path 1.5 +2 -2 src/sys/modules/ed/Makefile 1.200 +145 -1 src/sys/dev/ed/if_ed.c 1.29 +95 -1 src/sys/dev/ed/if_ed_pccard.c 1.28 +2 -1 src/sys/dev/ed/if_ed_pci.c 1.30 +30 -1 src/sys/dev/ed/if_edreg.h 1.12 +10 -1 src/sys/dev/ed/if_edvar.h 1.303 +2 -1 src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC 1.40 +19 -10 src/sys/i386/conf/NEWCARD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 4:11:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0592A37B718; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 04:11:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mobile.wemm.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f26CBVh63148; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 04:11:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <200103061211.f26CBVh63148@mobile.wemm.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: Duncan Barclay , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_ed, mii and no PCI? In-Reply-To: <3AA4C772.881BE468@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 04:11:31 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Duncan Barclay wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Just got round to rebuilding a -current kernel on a Libretto 50 with no PCI bus. > > make depend in sys/compile/WANDERER dies on: > > In file included from ../../dev/mii/dcphy.c:67: > > ../../dev/pci/pcivar.h:156: pci_if.h: No such file or directory > > > > Do I really need to add PCI... > > It is sideefect of the following commit (yes, I agree with you that mandatory device > pci it is bogus and IMO should be fixed). Fixed: Checking in files; /home/ncvs/src/sys/conf/files,v <-- files new revision: 1.493; previous revision: 1.492 > -Maxim > > imp 2001/03/03 00:31:37 PST > > Modified files: > sys/modules/ed Makefile > sys/dev/ed if_ed.c if_ed_pccard.c if_ed_pci.c > if_edreg.h if_edvar.h > sys/i386/conf GENERIC NEWCARD > Log: > Add support for Dlink DL10022 to the ed driver. This is a mii part > bolted to a ne-2000 chip. This is necessary for the NetGear FA-410TX > and other cards. > > This also requires you add mii to your kernel if you have an ed driver > configured. > > This code will result in a couple of timeout messages for ed on the > impacted cards. Additional work will be needed, but this does work > right now, and many people need these cards. > > Submitted by: Ian Dowse > > Revision Changes Path > 1.5 +2 -2 src/sys/modules/ed/Makefile > 1.200 +145 -1 src/sys/dev/ed/if_ed.c > 1.29 +95 -1 src/sys/dev/ed/if_ed_pccard.c > 1.28 +2 -1 src/sys/dev/ed/if_ed_pci.c > 1.30 +30 -1 src/sys/dev/ed/if_edreg.h > 1.12 +10 -1 src/sys/dev/ed/if_edvar.h > 1.303 +2 -1 src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC > 1.40 +19 -10 src/sys/i386/conf/NEWCARD > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 4:15: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE2537B719; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 04:14:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA16433; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:14:44 +1100 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:14:31 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Makoto MATSUSHITA Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, kris@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: secure/lib/libcrypto: "make -jX buildworld" fix In-Reply-To: <20010306170740Z.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote: > I've found that current libcrypto/Makefile is not parallel make(1) > unfriendly, since it creates a temporary file to as(1). Followings are > sample session log with "make buildworld -j2": > ... > If there is no mean to create *.pl.s, how about using a pipe to pass > an assembler code to as(1) ? Pipes aren't so good. They discard errors from all stages except the last. > Index: Makefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/Makefile,v > retrieving revision 1.35 > diff -u -r1.35 Makefile > --- Makefile 2001/03/04 23:14:50 1.35 > +++ Makefile 2001/03/06 07:52:59 > @@ -384,12 +384,12 @@ > .SUFFIXES: .po .pl > .SUFFIXES: .So .pl > .pl.o: > - perl -I${PERLPATH} $(.ALLSRC) elf ${CPUTYPE:Mi386:S/i//} > $(.PREFIX).pl.s ; ${AS} ${AFLAGS} $(.PREFIX).pl.s -o $(.TARGET) > + perl -I${PERLPATH} $(.ALLSRC) elf ${CPUTYPE:Mi386:S/i//} | ${AS} ${AFLAGS} - -o $(.TARGET) > > .pl.po: > - perl -I${PERLPATH} $(.ALLSRC) elf ${CPUTYPE:Mi386:S/i//} > $(.PREFIX).pl.s ; ${AS} ${AFLAGS} $(.PREFIX).pl.s -o $(.TARGET) > + perl -I${PERLPATH} $(.ALLSRC) elf ${CPUTYPE:Mi386:S/i//} | ${AS} ${AFLAGS} - -o $(.TARGET) > > .pl.So: > - perl -I${PERLPATH} $(.ALLSRC) elf ${CPUTYPE:Mi386:S/i//} > $(.PREFIX).pl.s ; ${AS} ${AFLAGS} $(.PREFIX).pl.s -o $(.TARGET) > + perl -I${PERLPATH} $(.ALLSRC) elf ${CPUTYPE:Mi386:S/i//} | ${AS} ${AFLAGS} - -o $(.TARGET) > .endif > These lines have about 5 other bugs each. Fixing some of these would make the problem with parallel makes go away. Note that the rules are identical. They say to create 3 identical .s files with the same name (but only 1 copy will be created in the non-parallel case) and 3 identical object files with different names. It would be better to have only a .pl.S rule to create the assembler file and use the standard .S.{o,po,So} rules to compile it to object files. This would fix using slightly wrong rules for building the object files. The rule for building the .po files is actually completely wrong (it is missing -DPROF ...), but this currently makes no difference since the assembler files don't support profiling either. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 4:17:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (smtp.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272B537B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 04:17:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (root@vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.112]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f26CGjp18902; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:16:55 +0200 Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f26CGoI85272; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:16:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3AA4D528.39516B2D@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 14:16:41 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Wemm Cc: Duncan Barclay , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: if_ed, mii and no PCI? References: <200103061211.f26CBVh63148@mobile.wemm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Wemm wrote: > Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > Duncan Barclay wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > Just got round to rebuilding a -current kernel on a Libretto 50 with no PCI bus. > > > make depend in sys/compile/WANDERER dies on: > > > In file included from ../../dev/mii/dcphy.c:67: > > > ../../dev/pci/pcivar.h:156: pci_if.h: No such file or directory > > > > > > Do I really need to add PCI... > > > > It is sideefect of the following commit (yes, I agree with you that mandatory device > > pci it is bogus and IMO should be fixed). > > Fixed: > Checking in files; > /home/ncvs/src/sys/conf/files,v <-- files > new revision: 1.493; previous revision: 1.492 Thank you! -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 6: 6: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (pop3.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF2C37B719; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 06:05:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (root@vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.112]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f26DQQp20517; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:26:39 +0200 Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f26DQZI33765; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:26:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 15:26:24 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: markm@FreeBSD.org Cc: des@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Can't build 5-current world on 4-stable box (perl doesn't bootstrap properly) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I reported it about a month ago, but the problem still persists. 5-current buildworld can't be performed on reasonably recent 4-stable system, hence source upgrade path from -stable to -current is broken. Please fix. cc -pipe -O -I/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -DPERL_CORE -I/shares/UF/obj/usr/current/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perly.c -o perly.o building static perl library ranlib libperl.a sh /usr/current/src/tools/install.sh -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libperl.a /shares/UF/obj/usr/current/src/i386/usr/libcd /usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl; make obj; make depend; make all; make install /shares/UF/obj/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl created for /usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl make: don't know how to make opnames.h. Stop *** Error code 2 1 error $ uname -a FreeBSD vic.sabbo.net 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #37: Wed Feb 21 11:59:36 EET 2001 root@vic.sabbo.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/VEGA i386 (system built from the sources cvsuped on 21 Feb 2001). -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 7:31:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542D237B71B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:31:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 14aJR6-0006Vz-01; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:31:40 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f26F93d12824 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:09:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: tape device names and devfs Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <982uie$cer$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <200103060709.f2679OZ04542@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve Kargl wrote: > dump.8 and dump(8) both refer explicitly to nsa0 and nrsa0 whereas > sa0 and nsa0 are the actual device names in -current. Then this should be fixed. The non-'r' device names have been standard in -CURRENT for quite some time. MAKEDEV only creates 'r'-names for backwards compatibility. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 8:24:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (smtp.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C140B37B71A; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:23:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (root@vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.112]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f26GNYM25389; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:23:37 +0200 Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f26GNhG50898; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:23:43 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3AA50F01.6560C34A@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 18:23:29 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: igorr@crosswinds.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, phk@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Correct size of kinfo_proc References: <20010228161009.B14235@linux.rainbow> <3A9CF680.563D9F2B@FreeBSD.org> <200103010440.f214e1d45348@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20010228161009.B14235@linux.rainbow> Igor Robul writes: > : On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 03:00:48PM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > : > Hi Poul, > : > > : > In revision 1.31 of src/sys/sys/user.h you have added new ki_layout field to > : > kinfo_proc structure, but forgot to increase KINFO_PROC_SIZE from 644 to 648. > : > Please correct. > : Why don't use sizeof() insead of hardcoding numbers? > > Because KINFO_PROC_SIZE is part of the ABI. Changes to its size are > always wrong, in that they break the ABI. The checks are there to > tell us when the ABI has been broken. Well, we are now well informed about this, could we just fix sys/sys/user.h to match relity (credit goes to phk for broking it and ignoring my posts completely)? max@notebook$ dmesg | grep WARNING WARNING: size of kinfo_proc (648) should be 644!!! max@notebook$ uname -a FreeBSD notebook 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #2: Tue Mar 6 15:34:23 EET 2001 root@notebook:/usr/src/sys/compile/NOTEBOOK i386 -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 8:27:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (flutter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BE337B718; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:27:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f26GRbB09379; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:27:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: Warner Losh , igorr@crosswinds.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Correct size of kinfo_proc In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 18:23:29 +0200." <3AA50F01.6560C34A@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:27:37 +0100 Message-ID: <9377.983896057@critter> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3AA50F01.6560C34A@FreeBSD.org>, Maxim Sobolev writes: >Warner Losh wrote: > >> In message <20010228161009.B14235@linux.rainbow> Igor Robul writes: >> : On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 03:00:48PM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: >> : > Hi Poul, >> : > >> : > In revision 1.31 of src/sys/sys/user.h you have added new ki_layout field to >> : > kinfo_proc structure, but forgot to increase KINFO_PROC_SIZE from 644 to 648. >> : > Please correct. >> : Why don't use sizeof() insead of hardcoding numbers? >> >> Because KINFO_PROC_SIZE is part of the ABI. Changes to its size are >> always wrong, in that they break the ABI. The checks are there to >> tell us when the ABI has been broken. > >Well, we are now well informed about this, could we just fix sys/sys/user.h to match >relity (credit goes to phk for broking it and ignoring my posts completely)? I've been kind of waiting for -current to actually work again. I hate commiting to -current when it's börked. Yes, fix it in for now, or better, do the right thing with version numbers. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 8:38:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D6F37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:38:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f26GfJe09146; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:41:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) From: Steve Kargl Message-Id: <200103061641.f26GfJe09146@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: tape device names and devfs In-Reply-To: <982uie$cer$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> "from Christian Weisgerber at Mar 6, 2001 03:09:02 pm" To: Christian Weisgerber Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:41:19 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Steve Kargl wrote: > > > dump.8 and dump(8) both refer explicitly to nsa0 and nrsa0 whereas ^^^^ whoops rsa0 > > sa0 and nsa0 are the actual device names in -current. > > Then this should be fixed. But, what is the correct fix? Add symlink magic to rc.devfs? Change dump(8)? > The non-'r' device names have been standard in -CURRENT for quite > some time. MAKEDEV only creates 'r'-names for backwards compatibility. MAKEDEV's behavior satisfies POLA by creating the symlinks. If symlinks aren't created in rc.devfs, then how many (custom) scripts will this break? -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 9: 2:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (blizzard.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CA537B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:02:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (root@vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.112]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f26H1IM26474; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:01:26 +0200 Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f26H1RG50988; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:01:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3AA517D8.3AE21660@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:01:13 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Warner Losh , igorr@crosswinds.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Correct size of kinfo_proc References: <9377.983896057@critter> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <3AA50F01.6560C34A@FreeBSD.org>, Maxim Sobolev writes: > >Warner Losh wrote: > > > >> In message <20010228161009.B14235@linux.rainbow> Igor Robul writes: > >> : On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 03:00:48PM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > >> : > Hi Poul, > >> : > > >> : > In revision 1.31 of src/sys/sys/user.h you have added new ki_layout field to > >> : > kinfo_proc structure, but forgot to increase KINFO_PROC_SIZE from 644 to 648. > >> : > Please correct. > >> : Why don't use sizeof() insead of hardcoding numbers? > >> > >> Because KINFO_PROC_SIZE is part of the ABI. Changes to its size are > >> always wrong, in that they break the ABI. The checks are there to > >> tell us when the ABI has been broken. > > > >Well, we are now well informed about this, could we just fix sys/sys/user.h to match > >relity (credit goes to phk for broking it and ignoring my posts completely)? > > I've been kind of waiting for -current to actually work again. I hate > commiting to -current when it's bÆrked. > > Yes, fix it in for now, or better, do the right thing > with version numbers. Ah ok if so, I though that you just forgot about it. I think it would be wise for me to avoid hacking this part, especially considering that the only harm from this is warning message at bootup. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 10:38:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (ns.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02AE37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:38:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (root@vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.112]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f26IbgM28577 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:37:44 +0200 Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f26IbpG51445 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:37:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3AA52E6F.F660E94B@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:37:35 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Current Subject: make(1) benchmarks [WAS: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ar Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/as Makefile.inc0 ...] References: <200102271125.f1RBPig49632@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010227150929.B72398@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010228102308.K767@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> <200102281651.f1SGp8d41759@harmony.village.org> <20010228123542.N767@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Will Andrews wrote: > [ cc's trimmed, moved to -current ] > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 09:51:08AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > So long as it is not forced unconditionally to be static. > > I agree. > > > b) I've not seen the numbers for this. If it is only 1% faster, it > > doesn't make sense, even though it sounds good on paper. > > I will perform careful benchmarks and publish results. Can people wait > until that is done before moving forward please? Give me until Saturday. Any updates? My quick test involving running pkg_version on a system with 92 installed ports, which is very make-intensive operation if ports have origin recorded, as pkg_version(1) runs `make -V' for each port, shown that statically-compiled make is about 15% faster than dynamically-compiled. Sound like a reasonable speed gain for 100k binary size increase. What do people think? -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 10:50: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from acampi.inet.it (acampi.inet.it [213.92.4.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26FAD37B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:50:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrea@webcom.it) Received: (qmail 83097 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 19:48:39 -0000 Received: from brian.inet.it (HELO webcom.it) (213.92.4.195) by acampi.inet.it with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 19:48:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 17732 invoked by uid 1000); 6 Mar 2001 18:44:45 -0000 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:44:45 +0100 From: Andrea Campi To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: make(1) benchmarks [WAS: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ar Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/as Makefile.inc0 ...] Message-ID: <20010306194444.A2520@webcom.it> References: <200102271125.f1RBPig49632@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010227150929.B72398@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010228102308.K767@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> <200102281651.f1SGp8d41759@harmony.village.org> <20010228123542.N767@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> <3AA52E6F.F660E94B@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA52E6F.F660E94B@FreeBSD.org>; from sobomax@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:37:35PM +0200 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Any updates? My quick test involving running pkg_version on a system with 92 > installed ports, which is very make-intensive operation if ports have origin > recorded, as pkg_version(1) runs `make -V' for each port, shown that > statically-compiled make is about 15% faster than dynamically-compiled. Sound like a > reasonable speed gain for 100k binary size increase. What do people think? IFF it's only 100k difference, methink it's a no brainer. A static make is a good thing, if it's so good performancewise that I say go for it. pkg_version is quite intensive, that's for sure! Bye, Andrea -- The dark ages were caused by the Y1K problem. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 11:37:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A472137B718; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:37:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f26JZ3p57441; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:35:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:35:03 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200103061935.f26JZ3p57441@earth.backplane.com> To: Andrea Campi Cc: Maxim Sobolev , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: make(1) benchmarks [WAS: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ar Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/as Makefile.inc0 ...] References: <200102271125.f1RBPig49632@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010227150929.B72398@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010228102308.K767@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> <200102281651.f1SGp8d41759@harmony.village.org> <20010228123542.N767@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> <3AA52E6F.F660E94B@FreeBSD.org> <20010306194444.A2520@webcom.it> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> Any updates? My quick test involving running pkg_version on a system with 92 :> installed ports, which is very make-intensive operation if ports have origin :> recorded, as pkg_version(1) runs `make -V' for each port, shown that :> statically-compiled make is about 15% faster than dynamically-compiled. Sound like a :> reasonable speed gain for 100k binary size increase. What do people think? : :IFF it's only 100k difference, methink it's a no brainer. A static make is a :good thing, if it's so good performancewise that I say go for it. pkg_version :is quite intensive, that's for sure! : :Bye, : Andrea 'make' is one of those programs that fork/exec's lots of copies of itself, even when used without -j parallelization. Try doing a 'make' in virtually any ports directory, ^Z it, then do a ps and you will see what I mean. Static binaries will not only start up much more quickly then dynamic binaries, they actually eat *less* memory if you are running a whole bunch of them independantly (independantly exec'd). Make fits this description to a T. Normally I would argue against making things static, I definitely do *NOT* agree with the 'system recovery' reasoning for making 'make' static. But I do agree that static is much better with regard to all the fork/exec'ing make does. I think making 'make' static is a very good idea. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 13: 6: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AC337B71A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:06:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 14aOeh-0004nY-00; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:06:03 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f26KgQs27819 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:42:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: tape device names and devfs Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <983i3i$r3m$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <982uie$cer$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <200103061641.f26GfJe09146@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve Kargl wrote: > > > dump.8 and dump(8) both refer explicitly to rsa0 and nrsa0 whereas > > > sa0 and nsa0 are the actual device names in -current. > > > > Then this should be fixed. > > But, what is the correct fix? Add symlink magic to rc.devfs? > Change dump(8)? Yes, dump(8) and restore(8) need to be updated. I'll submit a PR. > MAKEDEV's behavior satisfies POLA by creating the symlinks. If > symlinks aren't created in rc.devfs, then how many (custom) > scripts will this break? I haven't heard any screaming yet. Besides, this is -CURRENT. devfs has also abandoned symlinks for 'r' disk devices. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 13: 6:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailfilter.igr.nl (mailfilter.igr.nl [193.78.222.223]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD6837B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:06:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jvanhennik@easy.nl) Received: from easy.nl ([212.241.42.239]) by mailfilter.igr.nl (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id nl for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:04:37 +0100 Message-ID: <3AA55086.9EE24EA7@easy.nl> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 22:03:02 +0100 From: Jaap van Hennik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (OS/2; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 13:15:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B9937B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:15:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f26LI3G11355; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:18:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) From: Steve Kargl Message-Id: <200103062118.f26LI3G11355@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: tape device names and devfs In-Reply-To: <983i3i$r3m$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> "from Christian Weisgerber at Mar 6, 2001 08:42:26 pm" To: Christian Weisgerber Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:18:03 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Steve Kargl wrote: > > I haven't heard any screaming yet. Besides, this is -CURRENT. > devfs has also abandoned symlinks for 'r' disk devices. > The "r" in tape device names has traditionally meant "r"ewind. The "r" in disk names (such as rda0) meant a "r"aw device. Raw devices (or block devices) were removed from current. The rewind and non-rewind tape device names were changed under devfs from rsa0 and nrsa0 to sa0 and nsa0, (which IMHO violates POLA). I suspect we'll hear scream when 5.0 is released and early adopters start to have their backup scripts die. -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 13:33: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (grouter.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBBF37B71A; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:32:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (root@gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f26LWmR55566; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:32:50 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <200103062132.f26LWmR55566@gratis.grondar.za> To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can't build 5-current world on 4-stable box (perl doesn't bootstrap properly) References: <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> ; from Maxim Sobolev "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 15:26:24 +0200." Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:33:41 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I reported it about a month ago, but the problem still persists. 5-current > buildworld can't be performed on reasonably recent 4-stable system, hence > source upgrade path from -stable to -current is broken. Please fix. I just did this on 4-STABLE with no problems at all. M -- Mark Murray Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 14: 9:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A18F37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:09:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20679; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:09:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200103062209.OAA20679@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: tape device names and devfs In-Reply-To: <200103062118.f26LI3G11355@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> from Steve Kargl at "Mar 6, 2001 01:18:03 pm" To: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu (Steve Kargl) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:09:34 -0800 (PST) Cc: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > Steve Kargl wrote: > > > > I haven't heard any screaming yet. Besides, this is -CURRENT. > > devfs has also abandoned symlinks for 'r' disk devices. > > > > The "r" in tape device names has traditionally meant "r"ewind. > The "r" in disk names (such as rda0) meant a "r"aw device. That is incorrect. r is raw in both cases. n is used to designate non-rewind devices. Please read mtio(4) and sa(4). non-raw tape devices don't make since... they aren't random block addressable devices. > Raw devices (or block devices) were removed from current. The > rewind and non-rewind tape device names were changed under > devfs from rsa0 and nrsa0 to sa0 and nsa0, (which IMHO > violates POLA). > > I suspect we'll hear scream when 5.0 is released and early > adopters start to have their backup scripts die. > > -- > Steve > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 14:38:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ohm.physics.purdue.edu (ohm.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC4337B719; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:38:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) Received: (from will@localhost) by ohm.physics.purdue.edu (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f26MeFp40060; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:40:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: ohm.physics.purdue.edu: will set sender to will@physics.purdue.edu using -f Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:40:15 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: make(1) benchmarks [WAS: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ar Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/as Makefile.inc0 ...] Message-ID: <20010306174015.V31975@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews Mail-Followup-To: Will Andrews , Maxim Sobolev , FreeBSD Current References: <200102271125.f1RBPig49632@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010227150929.B72398@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010228102308.K767@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> <200102281651.f1SGp8d41759@harmony.village.org> <20010228123542.N767@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> <3AA52E6F.F660E94B@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="30GLzS1nLAWfoGxm" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA52E6F.F660E94B@FreeBSD.org>; from sobomax@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:37:35PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --30GLzS1nLAWfoGxm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:37:35PM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Any updates? My quick test involving running pkg_version on a system with= 92 > installed ports, which is very make-intensive operation if ports have ori= gin > recorded, as pkg_version(1) runs `make -V' for each port, shown that > statically-compiled make is about 15% faster than dynamically-compiled. S= ound like a > reasonable speed gain for 100k binary size increase. What do people think? Err, sorry, I forgot to do it on the weekend, and have no time right now. Next weekend I will (but someone probably needs to remind me). --=20 wca --30GLzS1nLAWfoGxm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pWdPF47idPgWcsURAm9aAKCDE+nKMwNDuo3tjbNTaBzXPzYNVACeMlD6 WOOnU142z2cJ5hiUozftzm4= =ttlN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --30GLzS1nLAWfoGxm-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 15:31:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7A537B71A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:31:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 14aQvP-0002wf-00; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:31:27 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f26N1Wu41672 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:01:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: tape device names and devfs Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:01:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <983q8c$18lv$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <983i3i$r3m$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <200103062118.f26LI3G11355@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve Kargl wrote: > The "r" in tape device names has traditionally meant "r"ewind. No. We've been over this before. If you check the old 4.xBSD releases, the 'r' clearly means "raw device". Once upon a time there were tape block devices. > The rewind and non-rewind tape device names were changed under > devfs from rsa0 and nrsa0 to sa0 and nsa0, (which IMHO > violates POLA). They were changed in MAKEDEV long before that. MAKEDEV also provides 'r' names for compatibility. devfs simply did away with those compat links. For all kinds of devices, not only the tape drives. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 15:58:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC01B37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:58:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f26NwBr20231; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:58:11 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:58:11 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tape device names and devfs Message-ID: <20010306155811.A17828@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <983i3i$r3m$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <200103062118.f26LI3G11355@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <983q8c$18lv$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <983q8c$18lv$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de>; from naddy@mips.inka.de on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:01:32PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:01:32PM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > The rewind and non-rewind tape device names were changed under > > devfs from rsa0 and nrsa0 to sa0 and nsa0, (which IMHO > > violates POLA). >=20 > They were changed in MAKEDEV long before that. MAKEDEV also provides > 'r' names for compatibility. devfs simply did away with those > compat links. For all kinds of devices, not only the tape drives. MAKEDEV has made sa, etc devices with rsa, etc links in -STABLE for almost ten months now (as you know since you submitted the changes :-). What we really need to do is get all the utilities and docs updated in -STABLE ASAP in hopes of getting a few releases with the right names everywhere under our belt. That should at least help reduce the number of complaints come 5.0-RELEASE time. Obviously, nothing is going to stop them, but preemptive doc and utility updates including ports should go a long way. A preemptive FAQ like "where did /dev/rsa, /dev/nsa, and /dev/esa go?" would probably also be in order. Remember we've got at least six months and by many estimates a whole year to get people to recognize the fact that this change occured. Now's the time to start since we know it is going to confuse people. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pXmSXY6L6fI4GtQRArjjAKClltdzZxZzsG5ovDzAvTdfvoXsNQCdGHNR Ix8ojdO3hmh2PiPwg90YwSg= =sTYr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 17:10:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from evil.blunt.yi.org (ip-216-23-55-190.adsl.one.net [216.23.55.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C26837B71A; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:10:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cokane@evil.blunt.yi.org) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.blunt.yi.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f271NY854868; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:23:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:23:33 -0500 From: Coleman Kane To: Mark Murray Cc: Maxim Sobolev , current@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can't build 5-current world on 4-stable box (perl doesn't bootstrap properly) Message-ID: <20010306202333.A54846@cokane.yi.org> References: <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> <200103062132.f26LWmR55566@gratis.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200103062132.f26LWmR55566@gratis.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:33:41PM +0200 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Make sure you delete /usr/obj, I just did this too. Sometimes /usr/obj mess= es stuff up, also make sure that make.conf and all don't have any conflicting options set. Usually, I don't use things like -O2 optimizations for new mak= es. Make sure that isn't in your CFLAGS, also it would be a help to see the err= or message you get. Mark Murray had the audacity to say: >=20 > > I reported it about a month ago, but the problem still persists. 5-curr= ent > > buildworld can't be performed on reasonably recent 4-stable system, hen= ce > > source upgrade path from -stable to -current is broken. Please fix. >=20 > I just did this on 4-STABLE with no problems at all. >=20 > M > --=20 > Mark Murray > Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pY2VERViMObJ880RAaAiAJ0X2Y5UrmgDCsBs8lcEPlrhkkeWWgCgwCce GbxMNkSvZ4GQ1yADHeUwIUg= =oYk6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 17:13:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935A337B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:13:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f271DPu15159 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org.AVP; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:13:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f271DOt15153 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:13:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f271DGj04006 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:13:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:13:16 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Is my USB programmer broken? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got a USB programmer for my Flashram for my Garmin GPS. It doesn't work, and causes blue screen under windows... Is this the proof for it is broken? Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #6: Tue Mar 6 19:17:59 CET 2001 uhci0: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 9 at device 4.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered usbd_new_device: addr=2, getting first desc failed uhub_explore: usb_new_device failed, error=IOERROR uhub0: device problem, disabling port 1 It can't be because FreeBSD doesn't know the USB programmer; it doesn't know my USB webcam either, and it still shows up as ugen with manufacturer name at boot. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 18: 4: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mls.gtonet.net (mls.gtonet.net [216.112.90.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130FC37B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:03:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oldfart@gtonet.net) Received: from pld (pld.gtonet.net [216.112.90.200]) by mls.gtonet.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f2723wm37151 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:03:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oldfart@gtonet.net) Reply-To: From: "oldfart@gtonet" To: Subject: faster worlds... Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:03:57 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20010306202333.A54846@cokane.yi.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I read something (somewhere) about speeding up buildworlds with a ramdisk mounted to /usr/obj *IF* you have a lot of RAM but I cant seem to find it anymore. Any help? What are you guys doing to speed up your worlds? Are people still passing -j# option to make or is that old school now? Passing -j4 to my dual p3-500 didn't speed up buildworld at all but it speed up the kernel build/install plenty. Unfortunately it broke the installworld so I just did the installworld without the -j4 and it was fine. C'mon guys, spit out the tips-n-tricks :) OF To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 18: 6:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0367937B728 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:06:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sales@northstar-systems.com) Received: from smtp.ntlworld.com ([62.252.240.206]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010307020613.DEDU283.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@smtp.ntlworld.com> for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:06:13 +0000 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org From: sales@northstar-systems.com Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:03:30 +0000 Subject: Save Money X-Mailer: smtp.ntlworld.com Message-Id: <20010307020613.DEDU283.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@smtp.ntlworld.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Do you want to save money and have the fastest most modern internet presence available? 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NorthStar Crew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 18:18:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (draco.over-yonder.net [198.78.58.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3048037B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:18:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gh@over-yonder.net) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 1012) id 9386D62D06; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:18:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:18:53 -0600 From: GH To: "oldfart@gtonet" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: faster worlds... Message-ID: <20010306201853.D14771@over-yonder.net> References: <20010306202333.A54846@cokane.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from oldfart@gtonet.net on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 06:03:57PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 06:03:57PM -0800, some SMTP stream spewed forth: > I read something (somewhere) about speeding up buildworlds with a ramdisk > mounted to /usr/obj *IF* you have a lot of RAM but I cant seem to find it > anymore. Any help? What are you guys doing to speed up your worlds? Are I suppose you could do so. I have no experience with that, though. Ram just recently became relatively cheap. ;-) `du -d0 -c /usr/obj` 316617 /usr/obj 316617 total > people still passing -j# option to make or is that old school now? > Passing -j4 to my dual p3-500 didn't speed up buildworld at all but it speed > up the kernel build/install plenty. Unfortunately it broke the installworld > so I just did the installworld without the -j4 and it was fine. C'mon guys, > spit out the tips-n-tricks :) I still pass the -j option, usually a -j4 for a single-proc Athlon 700 with 256MB ram. I have not actually checked to see if it sped stuff up. ;-) Parallelizing installworld's is probably not going to work (as you have seen), and I think that it is even suggested *not* to. Heck, I even ran a -j64 once: 1229962.595u 3178499.752s 7:19:05.10 16733.5% 0+0k 52750+382894io 3616pf+477w That slowed things down a whole bunch, seven hours. I run a make -j4 buildworld/installword of -current on what has become a daily basis. It is probably not a good idea to do so blindly without tracking the lists. dan > OF > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 19: 4:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA3937B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:04:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2734aA61188 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:04:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200103070259.f272xt371041@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:04:23 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: HEADSUP: Kernel b0rked for a little while.. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 07-Mar-01 John Baldwin wrote: > jhb 2001/03/06 18:59:54 PST > > Modified files: > sys/kern kern_sig.c > Log: > - Proc locking. Most of signal handling is now MP safe and doesn't require > Giant. The only exception is the CANSIGNAL() macro. Unlocking the proc > lock around sendsig() in trapsignal() is also questionable. Note that > the functions sigexit(), psignal(), and issignal() must be called with > the proc lock of the process in question held. postsig() and > trapsignal() should not be called with the proc lock held, but they > also do not require Giant anymore either. > - Remove spl's that are now no longer needed as they are fully replaced. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.110 +163 -71 src/sys/kern/kern_sig.c Until I finish committing all the changes to lock the process when calling psignal() and sigexit(), a kernel with INVARIANTS will panic. I'll send another message when I'm done. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 6 20:20:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAFC37B719; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:20:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f274K3A63442; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:19:51 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: John Baldwin Subject: RE: HEADSUP: Kernel b0rked for a little while.. Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 07-Mar-01 John Baldwin wrote: > > On 07-Mar-01 John Baldwin wrote: >> jhb 2001/03/06 18:59:54 PST >> >> Modified files: >> sys/kern kern_sig.c >> Log: >> - Proc locking. Most of signal handling is now MP safe and doesn't >> require >> Giant. The only exception is the CANSIGNAL() macro. Unlocking the proc >> lock around sendsig() in trapsignal() is also questionable. Note that >> the functions sigexit(), psignal(), and issignal() must be called with >> the proc lock of the process in question held. postsig() and >> trapsignal() should not be called with the proc lock held, but they >> also do not require Giant anymore either. >> - Remove spl's that are now no longer needed as they are fully replaced. >> >> Revision Changes Path >> 1.110 +163 -71 src/sys/kern/kern_sig.c > > Until I finish committing all the changes to lock the process when calling > psignal() and sigexit(), a kernel with INVARIANTS will panic. I'll send > another message when I'm done. Ok, it should work again. I'll be making one or two more commits in a bit, but the kernel as it stands now should work fine. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 0:33:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (ns.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF4F37B71D; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:33:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (root@vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.112]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f278XRa11976; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:33:28 +0200 Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f278XRG53599; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:33:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3AA5F24F.C4317E83@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:33:20 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can't build 5-current world on 4-stable box (perl doesn't bootstrap properly) References: <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> <200103062132.f26LWmR55566@gratis.grondar.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Murray wrote: > > I reported it about a month ago, but the problem still persists. 5-current > > buildworld can't be performed on reasonably recent 4-stable system, hence > > source upgrade path from -stable to -current is broken. Please fix. > > I just did this on 4-STABLE with no problems at all. Well, then I suspect that it incorrectly works with my non-standard OBJDIR and/or non-standard sources location (/usr/current/src). I'll investigate further and let you know then. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 0:36:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (blizzard.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D66337B718; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:36:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (root@vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.112]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f278Zka12017; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:35:46 +0200 Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f278ZmG53618; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:35:48 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3AA5F2DD.DF00FAF1@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:35:41 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dougb@FreeBSD.org, markm@FreeBSD.org Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: harvest_interrupt=YES slows down machine Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------9BFAC65313FE71A36897DDAB" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9BFAC65313FE71A36897DDAB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just installed new world, rebuild kernel, ran mergemaster and after reboot discovered that the system slowed down 4-5 times. Turning harvest_interrupt=NO in /etc/rc.conf solved the problem. The system in question is Toshiba Satellite Pro 445 notebook, see dmesg and kernel config attached with this message. Please investigate and fix what is necessary. In the meantime I would suggest turning harvest_interrupt=NO in default rc.conf, as it may hurt others as well. Thanks! -Maxim --------------9BFAC65313FE71A36897DDAB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r; name="dmesg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmesg" Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #2: Tue Mar 6 15:34:23 EET 2001 root@notebook:/usr/src/sys/compile/NOTEBOOK Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193125 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (132.63-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33685504 (32896K bytes) avail memory = 29618176 (28924K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0321000. Preloaded elf module "snd_pcm.ko" at 0xc032109c. Preloaded elf module "snd_mss.ko" at 0xc032113c. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug WARNING: size of kinfo_proc (648) should be 644!!! VESA: v2.0, 2048k memory, flags:0x0, mode table:0xc02af420 (1000040) VESA: CHIPS 6x554 Super VGA apm0: on motherboard apm0: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface isa0: on motherboard ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 pcic0: at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 on isa0 pcic0: Polling mode pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 pcm0: at port 0x530-0x537,0x370-0x371 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0xc110 on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 flags 0x1 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in NIBBLE mode plip0: on ppbus0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources ad0: 1376MB [2796/16/63] at ata0-master BIOSPIO acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using BIOSPIO Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a pccard: card inserted, slot 0 pccard: card inserted, slot 1 ed0 at port 0x240-0x25f irq 3 slot 0 on pccard0 ed0: address 00:80:c8:88:86:b1, type NE2000 (16 bit) sio1 at port 0x2e8-0x2ef irq 10 slot 1 on pccard1 sio1: type 16550A --------------9BFAC65313FE71A36897DDAB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r; name="NOTEBOOK" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="NOTEBOOK" machine i386 cpu I586_CPU # Coz we don't need stuff for I386, I486 and I686 ident GENERIC maxusers 10 #options INVARIANTS #options INVARIANT_SUPPORT #options MUTEX_DEBUG #options WITNESS #options WITNESS_DDB #options DDB #options KTR #options KTR_EXTEND #options KTR_COMPILE=KTR_LOCK #options KTR_MASK=KTR_LOCK #options KTRACE options FFS options NFS options MSDOSFS options INET #InterNETworking options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options NSWAPDEV=1 options CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION options CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION #options USER_LDT options P1003_1B options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L device random device isa #device pcm device fdc device ata device atadisk device atapicd device atkbdc 1 device atkbd device psm #options PSM_HOOKAPM device vga device sc 1 options VESA options SC_PIXEL_MODE #options SC_NO_SYSMOUSE options SC_TWOBUTTON_MOUSE options SC_HISTORY_SIZE=1024 device npx device sio device apm device pmtimer device card device pcic device ed # I hate this !!!!! device miibus # options PCIC_RESUME_RESET options POWERFAIL_NMI # Zip Stuff - comment out if not needed #device vpo0 #device scbus0 at vpo0 #device da0 device ppc device ppbus device plip options PPC_PROBE_CHIPSET # Various Pseudo-Devices device loop device ether device pty #device splash #device bpf options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options SHMSEG=100 --------------9BFAC65313FE71A36897DDAB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 0:49:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gidgate.gid.co.uk (gid.co.uk [194.32.164.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C1337B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:49:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rb@gidgate.gid.co.uk) Received: (from rb@localhost) by gidgate.gid.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA77993; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:49:48 GMT (envelope-from rb) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010307084343.00b64bb0@gid.co.uk> X-Sender: rbmail@gid.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:49:45 +0000 To: current@freebsd.org From: Bob Bishop Subject: Can't boot recent kernels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've been unable to boot any kernel (including GENERIC) built in the past week or so. The machine restarts immediately the kernel is entered, no console output whatsoever after the loader. Older kernels are fine. Have I missed some important change, and/or how do I go about debugging this? -- Bob Bishop +44 (0)118 977 4017 rb@gid.co.uk fax +44 (0)118 989 4254 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 1:22:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4802137B71B; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:22:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA29875; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:22:18 +1100 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:22:09 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Maxim Sobolev , Warner Losh , igorr@crosswinds.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Correct size of kinfo_proc In-Reply-To: <9377.983896057@critter> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <3AA50F01.6560C34A@FreeBSD.org>, Maxim Sobolev writes: > >Well, we are now well informed about this, could we just fix sys/sys/use= r.h to match > >relity (credit goes to phk for broking it and ignoring my posts complete= ly)? >=20 > I've been kind of waiting for -current to actually work again. I hate > commiting to -current when it's b=F6rked. >=20 > Yes, fix it in for now, or better, do the right thing ^^^^^ wrong > with version numbers. Version numbers would be essentially a regression to the way of doing things before Kirk's changes. The size of the struct used to work almost perfectly as a version number in practice, because changes almost always bloat things. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 1:41:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (grouter.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0639837B719; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:41:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (root@gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f279fFR58696; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:41:18 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <200103070941.f279fFR58696@gratis.grondar.za> To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: dougb@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: harvest_interrupt=YES slows down machine References: <3AA5F2DD.DF00FAF1@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <3AA5F2DD.DF00FAF1@FreeBSD.org> ; from Maxim Sobolev "Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:35:41 +0200." Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 11:42:08 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Just installed new world, rebuild kernel, ran mergemaster and after > reboot discovered that the system slowed down 4-5 times. Turning > harvest_interrupt=NO in /etc/rc.conf solved the problem. The system in > question is Toshiba Satellite Pro 445 notebook, see dmesg and kernel > config attached with this message. > > Please investigate and fix what is necessary. In the meantime I would > suggest turning harvest_interrupt=NO in default rc.conf, as it may > hurt others as well. Apart from a ridiculously low maxusers (you have 10, I recommend 128), I'm not sure what the problem is. Please set maxusers to 128, and time a make world with interrupt harvesting on, and again with it off. M -- Mark Murray Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 1:50:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178CA37B720 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:50:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA32012; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:50:32 +1100 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:50:23 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tape device names and devfs In-Reply-To: <982uie$cer$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Steve Kargl wrote: > > > dump.8 and dump(8) both refer explicitly to nsa0 and nrsa0 whereas > > sa0 and nsa0 are the actual device names in -current. The dump sources also refer to only the 'r' devices (_PATH_DEFTAPE is still "/dev/rsa0"). > Then this should be fixed. > The non-'r' device names have been standard in -CURRENT for quite > some time. MAKEDEV only creates 'r'-names for backwards compatibility. The backwards compatibility cruft should have been removed in -current long ago. I removed all 'r' devices from my /dev about a year ago but haven't changed this in MAKEDEV. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 3:36: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C1B37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:35:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p19-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.84]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id UAA20377; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:35:50 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3AA61C64.65033A2E@newsguy.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:32:52 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Kargl Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tape device names and devfs References: <200103062118.f26LI3G11355@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve Kargl wrote: > > The "r" in tape device names has traditionally meant "r"ewind. Nope. When this was discussed a while ago we got some authoritative information to the effect that "r" has always meant raw for tapes too. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.obscure.bsdconspiracy.net Possession is 9/10 of the law. Except for Domain Names. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 4:46:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (grouter.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EF637B718; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 04:46:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (root@gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27Ck6R59376; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:46:09 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <200103071246.f27Ck6R59376@gratis.grondar.za> To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: dougb@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: harvest_interrupt=YES slows down machine References: <3AA60C69.8FEBB8A3@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <3AA60C69.8FEBB8A3@FreeBSD.org> ; from Maxim Sobolev "Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:24:43 +0200." Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:46:59 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Apart from a ridiculously low maxusers (you have 10, I recommend 128), > > I'm not sure what the problem is. > > I do not see why it is "ridiculously low". Even GENERIC recommends 32, while > this is a small system intended to be used by only one person, so I do not see > any problem with it. I never had any `out of descriptors' or `can't fork' > during my routine operations on this box (2.5 years). Ok - then please leave it at 32. > > Please set maxusers to 128, and time a make world with interrupt > > harvesting on, and again with it off. > > I do not see what it will buy you. Could you please just believe my > opinion based on the boot time? After all, even when this box unslowed > make world takes 4-5 hours to complete, so with this slowdown it would > take about 20-30, which I certainly can't tolerate without sufficient > reason. If you want me to help you, please help me get good info. It's very important to me _know_ wether this is a boot slowdown or a generic - assertions are not good enough, I need hard facts. My own laptop (A Toshiba Libretto 110CT) does a make world in about 8 hours (and it always has). Interrupt harvesting has not made a noticable difference (I have not been keeping records, but an overnight build has not yet progressed into my breakfast). M -- Mark Murray Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 5:43:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FADF37B718; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:43:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA14338; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:42:48 +1100 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:42:39 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Mark Murray Cc: Maxim Sobolev , dougb@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: harvest_interrupt=YES slows down machine In-Reply-To: <200103071246.f27Ck6R59376@gratis.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Mark Murray wrote: > > > Apart from a ridiculously low maxusers (you have 10, I recommend 128), > > > I'm not sure what the problem is. > > > > I do not see why it is "ridiculously low". Even GENERIC recommends 32, while > > this is a small system intended to be used by only one person, so I do not see > > any problem with it. I never had any `out of descriptors' or `can't fork' > > during my routine operations on this box (2.5 years). > > Ok - then please leave it at 32. I use 10 with no problems. > If you want me to help you, please help me get good info. > > It's very important to me _know_ wether this is a boot slowdown or > a generic - assertions are not good enough, I need hard facts. > > My own laptop (A Toshiba Libretto 110CT) does a make world in > about 8 hours (and it always has). Interrupt harvesting has not > made a noticable difference (I have not been keeping records, but > an overnight build has not yet progressed into my breakfast). Just do something that causes a lot of interrupts that go through the random harvester. E.g.: dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/null causes 7750 interrupts/sec here (on a Celeron 366 overclocked to 522). The random task takes 100% of the available cpu cycles. This slows down cpu-bound processes by a factor of about 3.5. With a block size of 64k instead of the default of 512, this causes only 300 interrupts/sec. The random task takes a measly 27% of the cpu to process these. It can apparently only handle about 10 interrupts/second with a reasonable overhead (1%). Interrupt harvesting doesn't make much difference to makeworld because makeworld is cpu-bound. I estimate it to be about 2% here (20 interrupts per second for disk i/o to local disks. It would be a lot more for nfs). Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 6:38:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (grouter.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAEB37B71A; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:38:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (root@gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27EbmR59707; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:37:51 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <200103071437.f27EbmR59707@gratis.grondar.za> To: Bruce Evans Cc: Maxim Sobolev , dougb@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: harvest_interrupt=YES slows down machine References: In-Reply-To: ; from Bruce Evans "Thu, 08 Mar 2001 00:42:39 +1100." Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 16:38:40 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Just do something that causes a lot of interrupts that go through the > random harvester. E.g.: > > dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/null > > causes 7750 interrupts/sec here (on a Celeron 366 overclocked to > 522). The random task takes 100% of the available cpu cycles. This > slows down cpu-bound processes by a factor of about 3.5. With a block > size of 64k instead of the default of 512, this causes only 300 > interrupts/sec. The random task takes a measly 27% of the cpu to > process these. It can apparently only handle about 10 interrupts/second > with a reasonable overhead (1%). OK. Try tweaking the "Computational intensity factor" ;-) by dropping the kern.random.yarrow.bins: # sysctl -w kern.random.yarrow.bins=2 And let me know how well that works. M -- Mark Murray Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 7:11:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from slave3.aa.net (slave3.aa.net [204.157.220.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF98237B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:11:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Meph@Aeon-AL.Com) Received: from Ra-Hoor.Aeon-AL.Com (host48.207-55-126.aadsl.com [207.55.126.48]) by slave3.aa.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13806 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:11:21 -0800 X-Intended-For: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:12:51 -0800 (PST) From: Meph Istopheles Reply-To: Meph Istopheles To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 9:33:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994A337B718; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:33:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f27HWou70340; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:32:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:32:50 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200103071732.f27HWou70340@earth.backplane.com> To: Mark Murray Cc: Bruce Evans , Maxim Sobolev , dougb@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: harvest_interrupt=YES slows down machine References: <200103071437.f27EbmR59707@gratis.grondar.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> causes 7750 interrupts/sec here (on a Celeron 366 overclocked to :> 522). The random task takes 100% of the available cpu cycles. This :> slows down cpu-bound processes by a factor of about 3.5. With a block :> size of 64k instead of the default of 512, this causes only 300 :> interrupts/sec. The random task takes a measly 27% of the cpu to :> process these. It can apparently only handle about 10 interrupts/second :> with a reasonable overhead (1%). : :OK. Try tweaking the "Computational intensity factor" ;-) by dropping :the kern.random.yarrow.bins: : :# sysctl -w kern.random.yarrow.bins=2 : :And let me know how well that works. : :M :-- :Mark Murray I think it would be a much better idea to cap the number of interrupts per second the reseeder accepts. e.g. have a sysctl to set the max and default it to something reasonable, like 200. The seeder would thus only run 200 times a second even if A person were getting 7750 interrupts/sec. Frankly, once we have a good random seed it would only take about 10 interrupts a second to keep the random number generator in good shape, and possibly even less. Overkill is not necessary. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 9:38:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C9B37B71A; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:38:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27HcBd09727; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:38:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200103071738.f27HcBd09727@harmony.village.org> To: Maxim Sobolev Subject: Re: Can't build 5-current world on 4-stable box (perl doesn't bootstrap properly) Cc: markm@FreeBSD.ORG, des@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 15:26:24 +0200." <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> References: <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:38:11 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> Maxim Sobolev writes: : I reported it about a month ago, but the problem still persists. 5-current : buildworld can't be performed on reasonably recent 4-stable system, hence : source upgrade path from -stable to -current is broken. Please fix. I have the same box that you have (more or less) and I have no problems building my -current sources. Maybe some more details are required before it can be fixed. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 10:25:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1D637B71B for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:25:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13900; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:25:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Reproducable panic From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 07 Mar 2001 19:25:41 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 170 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At some point in the past 24 hours, someone broke the kernel so I can no longer run linux-opera: root@des /var/crash# gdb -k GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd". (kgdb) source ~des/kgdb (kgdb) kernel 5 IdlePTD 4034560 initial pcb at 326020 panicstr: from debugger panic messages: --- panic: cpu_switch: not SRUN panic: from debugger Uptime: 7m24s dumping to dev ad0b, offset 131104 dump ata0: resetting devices .. done 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 --- #0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:478 478 if (dumping++) { (kgdb) where #0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:478 #1 0xc019131b in boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:321 #2 0xc01916e5 in panic (fmt=0xc02940b4 "from debugger") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:571 #3 0xc011f1d5 in db_panic (addr=-1071226260, have_addr=0, count=-1, modif=0xd06ffc34 "") at ../../ddb/db_command.c:433 #4 0xc011f175 in db_command (last_cmdp=0xc02cd880, cmd_table=0xc02cd6e0, aux_cmd_tablep=0xc0310cdc) at ../../ddb/db_command.c:333 #5 0xc011f23a in db_command_loop () at ../../ddb/db_command.c:455 #6 0xc0121403 in db_trap (type=3, code=0) at ../../ddb/db_trap.c:71 #7 0xc0265ffe in kdb_trap (type=3, code=0, regs=0xd06ffd34) at ../../i386/i386/db_interface.c:164 #8 0xc0274a3b in trap (frame={tf_fs = 24, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -798482176, tf_esi = 256, tf_ebp = -797966976, tf_isp = -797967008, tf_ebx = 2, tf_edx = 1017, tf_ecx = 1021, tf_eax = 18, tf_trapno = 3, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1071226260, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 70, tf_esp = -1070857153, tf_ss = -1070967837}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:608 #9 0xc026626c in Debugger (msg=0xc02a53e3 "panic") at machine/cpufunc.h:60 #10 0xc01916dc in panic (fmt=0xc0272cdd "cpu_switch: not SRUN") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:569 #11 0xc0272cdd in sw0_2 () #12 0xc019b3d8 in msleep (ident=0xc0356158, mtx=0xd0682100, priority=344, wmesg=0xc02a7fd8 "poll", timo=201) at ../../kern/kern_synch.c:459 #13 0xc01b00f3 in poll (p=0xd0681fe0, uap=0xd06fff80) at ../../kern/sys_generic.c:927 #14 0xc0276510 in syscall (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = 142872464, tf_esi = 2000, tf_ebp = 142872424, tf_isp = -797966380, tf_ebx = 142872464, tf_edx = 2000, tf_ecx = 1, tf_eax = 168, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 678761248, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 647, tf_esp = 142872400, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1184 #15 0xc026690d in syscall_with_err_pushed () #16 0x285cac35 in ?? () (kgdb) p *(struct proc *)0xd0681fe0 $1 = {p_procq = {tqe_next = 0xd0681980, tqe_prev = 0xd0680aa0}, p_slpq = { tqe_next = 0x0, tqe_prev = 0xd0682a88}, p_list = {le_next = 0xd0681980, le_prev = 0xd0680ab0}, p_cred = 0xc2479f60, p_fd = 0xc245bc00, p_stats = 0xd06feb74, p_limit = 0xc2476700, p_upages_obj = 0xd06f1900, p_procsig = 0xc2437140, p_flag = 0, p_sflag = 9, p_intr_nesting_level = 0, p_stat = 3, p_pid = 448, p_hash = {le_next = 0x0, le_prev = 0xc090db00}, p_pglist = {le_next = 0xd0680aa0, le_prev = 0xd06819cc}, p_pptr = 0xd0681980, p_sibling = {le_next = 0x0, le_prev = 0xd06819e0}, p_children = {lh_first = 0xd0680aa0}, p_oppid = 0, p_dupfd = 0, p_vmspace = 0xcaab3180, p_estcpu = 58, p_cpticks = 1, p_pctcpu = 0, p_slpcallout = {c_links = {sle = {sle_next = 0x0}, tqe = {tqe_next = 0x0, tqe_prev = 0xc5ecea80}}, c_time = 44652, c_arg = 0xd0681fe0, c_func = 0xc019c88c , c_flags = 14}, p_wchan = 0xc0356158, p_wmesg = 0xc02a7fd8 "poll", p_swtime = 0, p_slptime = 0, p_itcallout = { c_links = {sle = {sle_next = 0x0}, tqe = {tqe_next = 0x0, tqe_prev = 0x0}}, c_time = 0, c_arg = 0x0, c_func = 0, c_flags = 0}, p_realtimer = {it_interval = {tv_sec = 0, tv_usec = 0}, it_value = { tv_sec = 0, tv_usec = 0}}, p_runtime = 1099, p_uu = 0, p_su = 0, p_iu = 0, p_uticks = 0, p_sticks = 1, p_iticks = 0, p_traceflag = 0, p_tracep = 0x0, p_siglist = {__bits = {0, 0, 0, 0}}, p_textvp = 0xd06e3f80, p_mtx = {mtx_lock = 4, mtx_recurse = 0, mtx_saveintr = 0, mtx_flags = 0, mtx_description = 0xc02a2074 "process lock", mtx_blocked = { tqh_first = 0x0, tqh_last = 0xd0682114}, mtx_contested = {le_next = 0x0, le_prev = 0x0}, mtx_next = 0xd0680bc0, mtx_prev = 0xd074a33c, mtx_debug = 0xc24702c0}, p_lock = 0 '\000', p_oncpu = 255 'ÿ', p_lastcpu = 0 '\000', p_rqindex = 46 '.', p_locks = 0, p_stops = 0, p_stype = 0, p_step = 0 '\000', p_pfsflags = 0 '\000', p_pad3 = "\000", p_retval = {0, 2000}, p_sigiolst = {slh_first = 0x0}, p_sigparent = 0, p_oldsigmask = {__bits = {0, 0, 0, 0}}, p_sig = 0, p_code = 0, p_klist = { slh_first = 0x0}, p_heldmtx = {lh_first = 0x0}, p_blocked = 0x0, p_mtxname = 0x0, p_contested = {lh_first = 0x0}, p_sigmask = {__bits = { 4026463919, 4294967294, 0, 0}}, p_sigstk = {ss_sp = 0x0, ss_size = 0, ss_flags = 4}, p_magic = -1091568946, p_pri = {pri_class = 3 '\003', pri_level = 88 'X', pri_native = 160 ' ', pri_user = 187 '»'}, p_nice = 0 '\000', p_comm = "opera\000ent\000\000\000\000\000\000\000", p_pgrp = 0xc22a29e0, p_sysent = 0xc030f4c0, p_args = 0xc2457f00, p_addr = 0xd06fe000, p_md = {md_regs = 0xd06fffa8}, p_xstat = 0, p_acflag = 1, p_ru = 0x0, p_aioinfo = 0x0, p_peers = 0xd0680aa0, p_leader = 0xd0681980, p_asleep = {as_priority = 0, as_timo = 0}, p_emuldata = 0x0, p_ithd = 0x0} (kgdb) up #1 0xc019131b in boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:321 321 dumpsys(); (kgdb) up #2 0xc01916e5 in panic (fmt=0xc02940b4 "from debugger") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:571 571 boot(bootopt); (kgdb) up #3 0xc011f1d5 in db_panic (addr=-1071226260, have_addr=0, count=-1, modif=0xd06ffc34 "") at ../../ddb/db_command.c:433 433 panic("from debugger"); (kgdb) up #4 0xc011f175 in db_command (last_cmdp=0xc02cd880, cmd_table=0xc02cd6e0, aux_cmd_tablep=0xc0310cdc) at ../../ddb/db_command.c:333 333 (*cmd->fcn)(addr, have_addr, count, modif); (kgdb) up #5 0xc011f23a in db_command_loop () at ../../ddb/db_command.c:455 455 db_command(&db_last_command, db_command_table, (kgdb) up #6 0xc0121403 in db_trap (type=3, code=0) at ../../ddb/db_trap.c:71 71 db_command_loop(); (kgdb) up #7 0xc0265ffe in kdb_trap (type=3, code=0, regs=0xd06ffd34) at ../../i386/i386/db_interface.c:164 164 db_trap(type, code); (kgdb) up #8 0xc0274a3b in trap (frame={tf_fs = 24, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -798482176, tf_esi = 256, tf_ebp = -797966976, tf_isp = -797967008, tf_ebx = 2, tf_edx = 1017, tf_ecx = 1021, tf_eax = 18, tf_trapno = 3, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1071226260, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 70, tf_esp = -1070857153, tf_ss = -1070967837}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:608 608 if (kdb_trap (type, 0, &frame)) (kgdb) up #9 0xc026626c in Debugger (msg=0xc02a53e3 "panic") at machine/cpufunc.h:60 60 __asm __volatile("int $3"); (kgdb) up #10 0xc01916dc in panic (fmt=0xc0272cdd "cpu_switch: not SRUN") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:569 569 Debugger ("panic"); (kgdb) up #11 0xc0272cdd in sw0_2 () (kgdb) up #12 0xc019b3d8 in msleep (ident=0xc0356158, mtx=0xd0682100, priority=344, wmesg=0xc02a7fd8 "poll", timo=201) at ../../kern/kern_synch.c:459 459 mi_switch(); (kgdb) up #13 0xc01b00f3 in poll (p=0xd0681fe0, uap=0xd06fff80) at ../../kern/sys_generic.c:927 927 error = msleep((caddr_t)&selwait, &p->p_mtx, PSOCK | PCATCH, "poll", (kgdb) up #14 0xc0276510 in syscall (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = 142872464, tf_esi = 2000, tf_ebp = 142872424, tf_isp = -797966380, tf_ebx = 142872464, tf_edx = 2000, tf_ecx = 1, tf_eax = 168, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 678761248, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 647, tf_esp = 142872400, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1184 1184 error = (*callp->sy_call)(p, args); (kgdb) up #15 0xc026690d in syscall_with_err_pushed () (kgdb) up #16 0x285cac35 in ?? () DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 10:41:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (grouter.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260E837B71A; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:41:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (root@gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27IetR60520; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:40:57 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <200103071840.f27IetR60520@gratis.grondar.za> To: Matt Dillon Cc: Bruce Evans , Maxim Sobolev , dougb@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: harvest_interrupt=YES slows down machine References: <200103071732.f27HWou70340@earth.backplane.com> In-Reply-To: <200103071732.f27HWou70340@earth.backplane.com> ; from Matt Dillon "Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:32:50 PST." Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:41:49 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I think it would be a much better idea to cap the number of interrupts > per second the reseeder accepts. e.g. have a sysctl to set the > max and default it to something reasonable, like 200. The seeder would > thus only run 200 times a second even if A person were getting > 7750 interrupts/sec. Frankly, once we have a good random seed it would > only take about 10 interrupts a second to keep the random number > generator in good shape, and possibly even less. Overkill is not > necessary. This effectively happens. The harvest ring is a limited length, and any overflows are discarded. M -- Mark Murray Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 10:43:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from acampi.inet.it (acampi.inet.it [213.92.4.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A08737B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:43:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrea@webcom.it) Received: (qmail 89930 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2001 19:42:12 -0000 Received: from brian.inet.it (HELO webcom.it) (213.92.4.195) by acampi.inet.it with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 19:42:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 1957 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Mar 2001 18:40:23 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:40:22 +0100 From: Andrea Campi To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reproducable panic Message-ID: <20010307194022.A570@webcom.it> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from des@ofug.org on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 07:25:41PM +0100 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 07:25:41PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > At some point in the past 24 hours, someone broke the kernel so I can > no longer run linux-opera: Same here with another Linux binary (Tivoli Storage Manager client). -- I believe the technical term is "Oops!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 11:10:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD3337B71A; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:10:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f27J9tp71792; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:09:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:09:55 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200103071909.f27J9tp71792@earth.backplane.com> To: Mark Murray Cc: Bruce Evans , Maxim Sobolev , dougb@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: harvest_interrupt=YES slows down machine References: <200103071732.f27HWou70340@earth.backplane.com> <200103071840.f27IetR60520@gratis.grondar.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> I think it would be a much better idea to cap the number of interrupts :> per second the reseeder accepts. e.g. have a sysctl to set the :> max and default it to something reasonable, like 200. The seeder would :> thus only run 200 times a second even if A person were getting :> 7750 interrupts/sec. Frankly, once we have a good random seed it would :> only take about 10 interrupts a second to keep the random number :> generator in good shape, and possibly even less. Overkill is not :> necessary. : :This effectively happens. : :The harvest ring is a limited length, and any overflows are discarded. : :M The harvest ring is *HUGE* -- the ring is 1024 entries. Obviously it does not have a problem keeping up with a high interrupt rate. Also, my read of the thread that eats the data off that ring is that the thread pulls everything off the ring in a tight loop, which means that the ring will effectively be empty most of the time no matter how much data gets stuffed into it. So the 'limited length', even a small limited length, does not effectively limit the amount of work being done by the interrupt code. You need to do two things: 1) Reduce the ring size to something reasonable. 1024 is massive overkill. 32 would be just fine. 2) Add a mandatory tsleep in random_kthread() for EACH entry scanned from the harvest ring. Something reasonable like 1/10 second (similar to what you do if the harvest ring is empty. Or may you could pull off 5 entries at a time and then sleep. Right now you run it in a tight loop until the ring is completely empty. A 1/10 second sleep and a ring limit of 32 still gives you an effective 320 seeds per second. Still overkill, but at least not the massive overkill that its doing now. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 11:27: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (grouter.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2802037B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:26:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (root@gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27JQbR60731; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:26:40 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <200103071926.f27JQbR60731@gratis.grondar.za> To: Matt Dillon Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: harvest_interrupt=YES slows down machine References: <200103071909.f27J9tp71792@earth.backplane.com> In-Reply-To: <200103071909.f27J9tp71792@earth.backplane.com> ; from Matt Dillon "Wed, 07 Mar 2001 11:09:55 PST." Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 21:27:31 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > 1) Reduce the ring size to something reasonable. 1024 is massive > overkill. 32 would be just fine. I'll play with this. > 2) Add a mandatory tsleep in random_kthread() for EACH entry scanned > from the harvest ring. Something reasonable like 1/10 second (similar > to what you do if the harvest ring is empty. Or may you could pull > off 5 entries at a time and then sleep. Right now you run it in a > tight loop until the ring is completely empty. Hmm. Sounds doable. I'll play. > A 1/10 second sleep and a ring limit of 32 still gives you an effective > 320 seeds per second. Still overkill, but at least not the massive > overkill that its doing now. Event != seed. I'll juggle numbers and see if I can come up with any tweakables (sysctl's) that could give users more control here. Thanks! M -- Mark Murray Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 13:11: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9240737B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:11:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f27LASA92557; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:10:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:10:12 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Subject: RE: Reproducable panic Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 07-Mar-01 Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > At some point in the past 24 hours, someone broke the kernel so I can > no longer run linux-opera: > > root@des /var/crash# gdb -k > GNU gdb 4.18 > Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd". > (kgdb) source ~des/kgdb > (kgdb) kernel 5 > IdlePTD 4034560 > initial pcb at 326020 > panicstr: from debugger > panic messages: > --- > panic: cpu_switch: not SRUN > panic: from debugger > Uptime: 7m24s > > dumping to dev ad0b, offset 131104 > dump ata0: resetting devices .. done > 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 > 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 > 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 > 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 > 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 > 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 > 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 > 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 > 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 > --- >#0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:478 > 478 if (dumping++) { > (kgdb) where >#0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:478 >#1 0xc019131b in boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:321 >#2 0xc01916e5 in panic (fmt=0xc02940b4 "from debugger") > at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:571 >#3 0xc011f1d5 in db_panic (addr=-1071226260, have_addr=0, count=-1, > modif=0xd06ffc34 "") at ../../ddb/db_command.c:433 >#4 0xc011f175 in db_command (last_cmdp=0xc02cd880, cmd_table=0xc02cd6e0, > aux_cmd_tablep=0xc0310cdc) at ../../ddb/db_command.c:333 >#5 0xc011f23a in db_command_loop () at ../../ddb/db_command.c:455 >#6 0xc0121403 in db_trap (type=3, code=0) at ../../ddb/db_trap.c:71 >#7 0xc0265ffe in kdb_trap (type=3, code=0, regs=0xd06ffd34) > at ../../i386/i386/db_interface.c:164 >#8 0xc0274a3b in trap (frame={tf_fs = 24, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, > tf_edi = -798482176, tf_esi = 256, tf_ebp = -797966976, > tf_isp = -797967008, tf_ebx = 2, tf_edx = 1017, tf_ecx = 1021, > tf_eax = 18, tf_trapno = 3, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1071226260, tf_cs = > 8, > tf_eflags = 70, tf_esp = -1070857153, tf_ss = -1070967837}) > at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:608 >#9 0xc026626c in Debugger (msg=0xc02a53e3 "panic") at machine/cpufunc.h:60 >#10 0xc01916dc in panic (fmt=0xc0272cdd "cpu_switch: not SRUN") > at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:569 >#11 0xc0272cdd in sw0_2 () >#12 0xc019b3d8 in msleep (ident=0xc0356158, mtx=0xd0682100, priority=344, > wmesg=0xc02a7fd8 "poll", timo=201) at ../../kern/kern_synch.c:459 >#13 0xc01b00f3 in poll (p=0xd0681fe0, uap=0xd06fff80) > at ../../kern/sys_generic.c:927 >#14 0xc0276510 in syscall (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, > tf_edi = 142872464, tf_esi = 2000, tf_ebp = 142872424, > tf_isp = -797966380, tf_ebx = 142872464, tf_edx = 2000, tf_ecx = 1, > tf_eax = 168, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 678761248, > tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 647, tf_esp = 142872400, tf_ss = 47}) > at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1184 >#15 0xc026690d in syscall_with_err_pushed () >#16 0x285cac35 in ?? () > (kgdb) p *(struct proc *)0xd0681fe0 Wrong process. This is the process that we just put to sleep. The panic is complaining about the new process we just chose to run. I'll try and add in an appropriate KASSERT() to the runqueue code to actually check this before we get into cpu_switch and print out what process we are switching to, what its p_stat is, etc. This may be my fault in the recent change to linux_machdep.c. Hmmm, nope: mtx_lock_spin(&sched_lock); p2->p_stat = SRUN; setrunqueue(p2); mtx_unlock_spin(&sched_lock); It should be fine. :( (The change was to linux_clone()). -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 13:21:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mamba.cids.org.za (mamba.cids.org.za [146.64.58.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886FA37B71C for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:21:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pallenby@mamba.cids.org.za) Received: (from pallenby@localhost) by mamba.cids.org.za (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f27LLAh11411 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:21:10 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from pallenby) From: Paul Allenby Message-Id: <200103072121.f27LLAh11411@mamba.cids.org.za> Subject: kernel build failure To: current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:21:10 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all From sources cvsup'd about an hour ago, "make depend" complains: ../../dev/ed/if_ed_pccard.c:58: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory and fails. This is after deleting the old kernel build dir. Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 13:34:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from jbloom.jbloom.org (reyim.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.251.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E4137B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:34:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bloom@acm.org) Received: from acm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jbloom.jbloom.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f27LXY033176; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:33:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bloom@acm.org) Message-ID: <3AA6A92D.AC9DAFA6@acm.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 16:33:33 -0500 From: Jim Bloom Reply-To: bloom@acm.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Allenby Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel build failure References: <200103072121.f27LLAh11411@mamba.cids.org.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did you add "device miibus" to you kernel configuration? Jim Bloom bloom@acm.org Paul Allenby wrote: > > Hi all > > >From sources cvsup'd about an hour ago, "make depend" complains: > > ../../dev/ed/if_ed_pccard.c:58: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory > > and fails. This is after deleting the old kernel build dir. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 14: 5: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB54637B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:05:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f27M4TN76099; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:04:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:04:29 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200103072204.f27M4TN76099@earth.backplane.com> To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: harvest_interrupt=YES slows down machine References: <200103071909.f27J9tp71792@earth.backplane.com> <200103071926.f27JQbR60731@gratis.grondar.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Hmm. Sounds doable. I'll play. : :> A 1/10 second sleep and a ring limit of 32 still gives you an effective :> 320 seeds per second. Still overkill, but at least not the massive :> overkill that its doing now. : :Event != seed. I'll juggle numbers and see if I can come up with any :tweakables (sysctl's) that could give users more control here. : :Thanks! : :M :-- :Mark Murray That would be cool, thanks! 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--0-1057467587-984003941=:65237-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 14:49:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EBF37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:49:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23902; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:49:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:49:05 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: Leif Neland Cc: Subject: Re: Is my USB programmer broken? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Leif Neland wrote: > I've got a USB programmer for my Flashram for my Garmin GPS. > > It doesn't work, and causes blue screen under windows... > > Is this the proof for it is broken? > > Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #6: Tue Mar 6 19:17:59 CET 2001 > uhci0: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 9 at device 4.2 on pci0 > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > usbd_new_device: addr=2, getting first desc failed > uhub_explore: usb_new_device failed, error=IOERROR > uhub0: device problem, disabling port 1 > > It can't be because FreeBSD doesn't know the USB programmer; it > doesn't know my USB webcam either, and it still shows up as ugen > with manufacturer name at boot. I run -STABLE, and was pondering over a problem I've been having with a USB device when I saw your problem. Could you try something? After you get that error above, move the device to the another USB port. I can manage to panic my system by doing that, except I'm doing it with a USB gamepad. I'm curious if it'll do the same for you. The way that I've come about that error is different from how you got there, though. I have a problem where any time I access my IDE hard drive (where Windows is -- FreeBSD is on SCSI disks), the USB gamepad I have plugged in goes nuts and FreeBSD eventually shuts the USB port off. I know it isn't a FreeBSD-specific problem, because exactly the same "nuttyness" happens when I'm in Windows. The problem with FreeBSD is, after FreeBSD has disabled the USB port, if I remove the device and then plug it back in the same port, I get the same error you've posted above. I can plug/unplug forever and still get that error, as long as I'm using the same USB port. But as soon as I plug it into the the other USB port on the root hub (my only "hub"), the system panics. Nick? :-) I'd have a crashdump for Nick or someone else to look at already, but I found out the hard way that the amr(4) driver doesn't take crashdumps. I then tried using a SCSI ZIP drive for the crashdump after labeling it and pointing dumpon(8) at it, which worked fine, until I tried to actually get the crashdump off of the drive after the crash. dumpon(8) won't accept the device (/dev/da0s1b in this case) so that I can use savecore to get the dump back off of it, but it accepted it to put it on it! Anyone know why that is happening? I don't remember the exact error dumpon was giving me at this time, sorry. I'll get it tonight if this doesn't ring a bell for someone. :-) -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For IA32 and Alpha architectures. IA64, PPC, and ARM under development. http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 15:33:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from forrie.net (forrie.net [216.67.14.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126A537B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:33:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from boom.forrie.com (forrie.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.132.133]) by forrie.net with id f27NXX371160 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:33:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010307183231.01b4fc40@216.67.14.69> X-Sender: forrie@216.67.14.69 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:33:09 -0500 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Forrest Aldrich Subject: MFC of Perl 5.6? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I searched the archives, and found this question asked, but no responses. I wonder when (if) Perl 5.6 will be MFC'd to 4.x. Thanks, _F To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 16:59:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ohm.physics.purdue.edu (ohm.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA5937B718; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:59:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) Received: (from will@localhost) by ohm.physics.purdue.edu (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f2811Oi45835; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:01:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: ohm.physics.purdue.edu: will set sender to will@physics.purdue.edu using -f Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:01:24 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Thomas Moestl Cc: FreeBSD Current , Jordan Hubbard Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/make suff.c Message-ID: <20010307200124.A45561@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews Mail-Followup-To: Will Andrews , Thomas Moestl , FreeBSD Current , Jordan Hubbard References: <200103080055.f280t9A82021@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103080055.f280t9A82021@freefall.freebsd.org>; from tmm@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 04:55:08PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 04:55:08PM -0800, Thomas Moestl wrote: > Log: > Fix two bugs in null suffix handling. Both occured only after the suffix > list was cleared. > Rules with null suffixes would not be rebuilt when the suffixes were > added again. > Adding null suffix rules would fail when a rule for the same source was > declared before the suffix list was cleared. > =20 > PR: 23328, 24102 > Reviewed by: will > Approved by: rwatson Thanks. Remember to MFC this after 4.3-RELEASE, unless jkh objects to MFC'ing it now? --=20 wca --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6ptnkF47idPgWcsURAuvoAJ0SNQNLSOimEbgFjJtN+30pSV6CBgCfWkJ9 xhhrKuYfgIE6XbQ324a1xK4= =yobk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 17: 8:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from web12810.mail.yahoo.com (web12810.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35A5137B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:08:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swliucn@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010308010831.41254.qmail@web12810.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.98.16.1] by web12810.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 17:08:31 PST Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:08:31 -0800 (PST) From: Liu Siwei Subject: httpd dump on freebsd-current To: current@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I use freebsd-current(src-cur.4750.gz),I make world, install new kernel, all thing are right. but i compile my php-4.0.4p1 and apache-1.3.17(static module), when i run /usr/local/www/bin/apachectl start, it die! httpd dump a core file! why? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 17:36:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA8D37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:36:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f281aIe94465 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:36:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f281aIC94433; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:36:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f281a2j18690; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:36:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:36:02 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: Chris Dillon Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is my USB programmer broken? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I run -STABLE, and was pondering over a problem I've been having with > a USB device when I saw your problem. Could you try something? > After you get that error above, move the device to the another USB > port. I can manage to panic my system by doing that, except I'm doing > it with a USB gamepad. I'm curious if it'll do the same for you. > I typed a longer letter, which pine ate... The short version is: No, I could not get a panic when I plugged it into the other port. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 17:58:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fw.mccons.net (adsl-65-64-105-41.dsl.kscymo.swbell.net [65.64.105.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA43A37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:58:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mccons.maxbaud.net) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by fw.mccons.net (8.11.1/8.11.2) with SMTP id f281we536620 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:58:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from root@mccons.maxbaud.net) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:58:40 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane X-Sender: root@fw.mccons.net To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Email being rejected In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am using the standard freebsd.mc created during a buildworld. I have started noticing that I am missing/rejecting a lot of emails from places like: yahoogroups.com. It is a valid domain name, and I can't imagine why I would not want to get their emails (well, actually I can, but that is beside the point :). It appears that the problem is that they do not have a machine named "yahoogroups.com". I have been looking in the sendmail config stuff, and I have not yet figured out what rule I would need to change, but I need it fixed soon, customers are complaining. I think what needs to be done is add a rule that says (if it is a TLD, go ahead and accept it). And, yes, I realize that means I will get a lot of emails from places like: akjasdkfhaskhdf.com, but a "whois" lookup would be WAY TOO SLOW. - brian +-----------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ He rides a cycle of mighty days, and \ Wm Brian and Lori McCane represents the last great schizm among\ McCane Consulting the gods. Evil though he obviously is, \ root@bmccane.maxbaud.net he is a mighty figure, this father of \ http://bmccane.maxbaud.net/ my spirit, and I respect him as the sons \ http://www.sellit-here.com/ of old did the fathers of their bodies. \ http://recall.maxbaud.net/ Roger Zelazny - "Lord of Light" \ http://www.maxbaud.net/ +-------------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 18:14:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7353F37B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:14:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f282EEU61484; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:14:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:14:14 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Forrest Aldrich Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MFC of Perl 5.6? Message-ID: <20010307181413.A61445@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010307183231.01b4fc40@216.67.14.69> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010307183231.01b4fc40@216.67.14.69>; from forrie@forrie.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 06:33:09PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 06:33:09PM -0500, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > I searched the archives, and found this question asked, but no responses. > I wonder when (if) Perl 5.6 will be MFC'd to 4.x. ^^^^^^ Uh, _*WHY*_ are you sending this to freebsd-current rather than freebsd-stable where it is applicable??? BTW, you need to do a much better search. The reason is there are known bugs and issues in Perl 5.6.0, and it is expected 5.6.1 will be MFCed when it comes out. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 18:49:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A66937B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:49:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.0.Beta3/8.12.0.Beta3) id f282nht1069664; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:49:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <15014.62278.946401.639910@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:49:42 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Wm Brian McCane Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Email being rejected In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.2 (beta42) "Poseidon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG root> I am using the standard freebsd.mc created during a buildworld. I root> have started noticing that I am missing/rejecting a lot of emails root> from places like: yahoogroups.com. It would be helpful to show the actual log message so we can determine wh= y it is being rejected. If it is something like: Mar 7 18:45:51 horsey sendmail[69643]: f282jdlg069643: ruleset=3Dcheck_m= ail, arg1=3D, relay=3Dgshapiro@yahoogroups.com = [10.0.1.1], reject=3D501 5.1.8 ... Domain of se= nder address gshapiro@yahoogroups.com does not exist Then at the time the mail came in, yahoogroups.com was not resolvable. Y= ou can check with: nslookup -q=3DAAAA yahoogroups.com. nslookup -q=3DA yahoogroups.com. nslookup -q=3DMX yahoogroups.com. root> I have been looking in the sendmail config stuff, and I have not ye= t root> figured out what rule I would need to change, but I need it fixed root> soon, customers are complaining. I think what needs to be done is root> add a rule that says (if it is a TLD, go ahead and accept it). And= , root> yes, I realize that means I will get a lot of emails from places root> like: akjasdkfhaskhdf.com, but a "whois" lookup would be WAY TOO root> SLOW. =46rom /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README: FEATURE(accept_unresolvable_domains) Normally, MAIL FROM: commands in the SMTP session will be refused if the host part of the argument to MAIL FROM: cannot be located in the host name service (e.g., an A or MX record in DNS). If you are inside a firewall that has only a limited view of the Internet host name space, this could cause problems. In this case you probably want to use this feature to accept all domains on input, even if they are unresolvable. =2E.. An ``access'' database can be created to accept or reject mail from selected domains. For example, you may choose to reject all mail originating from known spammers. To enable such a database, use FEATURE(`access_db') =2E.. OK Accept mail even if other rules in the running ruleset would reject it, for example, if the domain name is unresolvable. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 19:34:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F08C37B719; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:34:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f283XpH23781; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:33:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: will@physics.purdue.edu Cc: tmm@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org, jkh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/make suff.c In-Reply-To: <20010307200124.A45561@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> References: <200103080055.f280t9A82021@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010307200124.A45561@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010307193351X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 19:33:51 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't object - they're obvious bug fixes. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 19:46:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2931237B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:46:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wendenstrasse@t-online.de) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.com by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14arNl-0003g3-00; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 04:46:29 +0100 Received: from spamspam.ak47.hfbk.uni-hamburg.de (520053260940-0001@[217.0.66.223]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14arNX-2KX7nEC; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 04:46:15 +0100 Message-ID: <3AA70086.D9FDE3CE@spamspam.ak47.hfbk.uni-hamburg.de> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 04:46:14 +0100 From: wendenstrasse@t-online.de (3lO) Reply-To: tilo@ak47.hfbk.uni-hamburg.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 520053260940-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freensd-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 7 19:46:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE82537B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:46:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wendenstrasse@t-online.de) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.com by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14arO0-0003g3-00; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 04:46:44 +0100 Received: from spamspam.ak47.hfbk.uni-hamburg.de (520053260940-0001@[217.0.66.223]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14arNt-2L4Oi8C; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 04:46:37 +0100 Message-ID: <3AA7009D.DF66A9BB@spamspam.ak47.hfbk.uni-hamburg.de> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 04:46:37 +0100 From: wendenstrasse@t-online.de (3lO) Reply-To: tilo@ak47.hfbk.uni-hamburg.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 520053260940-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 0:57: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fw.mccons.net (adsl-65-64-105-41.dsl.kscymo.swbell.net [65.64.105.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A69337B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:56:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mccons.maxbaud.net) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by fw.mccons.net (8.11.1/8.11.2) with SMTP id f288usK54865; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:56:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from root@mccons.maxbaud.net) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:56:53 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane X-Sender: root@fw.mccons.net To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Email being rejected In-Reply-To: <15014.62278.946401.639910@horsey.gshapiro.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > root> I am using the standard freebsd.mc created during a buildworld. I > root> have started noticing that I am missing/rejecting a lot of emails > root> from places like: yahoogroups.com. > > It would be helpful to show the actual log message so we can determine why > it is being rejected. If it is something like: > > Mar 7 18:45:51 horsey sendmail[69643]: f282jdlg069643: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=, relay=gshapiro@yahoogroups.com [10.0.1.1], reject=501 5.1.8 ... Domain of sender address gshapiro@yahoogroups.com does not exist Yes, that is it. I actually started noticing the problem in my email for the daily (nightly) run. I went to look in the maillog, however, and that is the essence of the error (I think the PID might have been different ;). > Then at the time the mail came in, yahoogroups.com was not resolvable. You > can check with: > > nslookup -q=AAAA yahoogroups.com. > nslookup -q=A yahoogroups.com. > nslookup -q=MX yahoogroups.com. I did this and it does resolve for that one, but it doesn't for an ISP that one of my clients is trying to receive an email from. I emailed the owner of the ISP who promptly informed me that you should never setup an IP for your domain name, just for things like the www..org ;). However, the MX does (and has all along) resolved for his domain. I thought sendmail would do the DNS lookup/RDNS double-check thing for the MX machine instead of the origination machine, which was why I was so confused. > root> I have been looking in the sendmail config stuff, and I have not yet > root> figured out what rule I would need to change, but I need it fixed > root> soon, customers are complaining. I think what needs to be done is > root> add a rule that says (if it is a TLD, go ahead and accept it). And, > root> yes, I realize that means I will get a lot of emails from places > root> like: akjasdkfhaskhdf.com, but a "whois" lookup would be WAY TOO > root> SLOW. > > >From /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README: > > FEATURE(accept_unresolvable_domains) > Normally, MAIL FROM: commands in the SMTP session will be > refused if the host part of the argument to MAIL FROM: > cannot be located in the host name service (e.g., an A or > MX record in DNS). If you are inside a firewall that has > only a limited view of the Internet host name space, this > could cause problems. In this case you probably want to > use this feature to accept all domains on input, even if > they are unresolvable. Saw this, and didn't like the sound of it one darn bit. I am on a AT&T T1, which has been extremely reliable, and have never (that I know of) had problems resolving names unless the other persons bind or connection to the net is shakey. > ... > An ``access'' database can be created to accept or reject mail from > selected domains. For example, you may choose to reject all mail > originating from known spammers. To enable such a database, use > > FEATURE(`access_db') > ... > OK Accept mail even if other rules in the > running ruleset would reject it, for example, > if the domain name is unresolvable. Okay, just call me stupid :). I use this feature already to allow relays from/to my various domain names, reject email from spammers, etc. I can even control it directly from webmin instead of looking at all those strange rules in the .cf file. thanks, - brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 2:20:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8085037B71B for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:20:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f28AKmI71053; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:20:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:20:47 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Bruce Evans Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tape device names and devfs Message-ID: <20010308022047.A71017@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <982uie$cer$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from bde@zeta.org.au on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 08:50:23PM +1100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 08:50:23PM +1100, Bruce Evans wrote: > > > dump.8 and dump(8) both refer explicitly to nsa0 and nrsa0 whereas > > > sa0 and nsa0 are the actual device names in -current. > > The dump sources also refer to only the 'r' devices (_PATH_DEFTAPE > is still "/dev/rsa0"). Fixed. :-) -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 4:30:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from acampi.inet.it (acampi.inet.it [213.92.4.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FDEB37B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 04:30:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrea@webcom.it) Received: (qmail 94586 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2001 13:28:57 -0000 Received: from brian.inet.it (HELO webcom.it) (213.92.4.195) by acampi.inet.it with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 13:28:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 663 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Mar 2001 12:27:14 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:27:14 +0100 From: Andrea Campi To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Panic mounting msdos fs Message-ID: <20010308132714.A569@webcom.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Yesterday -current: # mount /msdos Acquring duplicate lock of same type: "lockmgr interlock" 1st @ ../../kern/kern_lock.c:239 2nd @ ../../kern/kern_lock.c:239 Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc015c3f5 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc7821ce4 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc7821cf0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 489 (mount_msdos) kernel: type 12 trap, code=0 Stopped at witness_exit+0x23d: movl %eax,0(%edx) db> I am attaching output of a few "show" commands from debug... -- Weird enough for government work. --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="panic.cap" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable trace witness_exit(c780634c,0,c024085a,f1,c780634c,1,c024085a,f1) at witness_exit= +0x23d lockmgr(c780637c,1010002,c780634c,c77a3980,c7821d70) at lockmgr+0xf5 vop_stdlock(c7821d60) at vop_stdlock+0x1f vn_lock(c78062e0,10002,c77a3980,c780634c,c0e8fb80) at vn_lock+0x186 vget(c78062e0,10002,c77a3980,c0df1400,4) at vget+0x109 msdosfs_hashget(c0da7600,0,1fffffff,c7806760,4) at msdosfs_hashget+0x11b deget(c0ea7000,0,1fffffff,c7821e1c,17d) at deget+0x41 msdosfs_root(c0df1400,c7821e4c) at msdosfs_root+0x20 vfs_mount(c77a3980,c0d7db40,c0e8fc00,0,bfbff8e8) at vfs_mount+0xc40 mount(c77a3980,c7821f80,bfbffd94,bfbffcc0,0) at mount+0x6a syscall(2f,2f,2f,0,bfbffcc0) at syscall+0x6b1 syscall_with_err_pushed() at syscall_with_err_pushed+0x1b db> show mu=08 =08=08 =08registers cs 0x8 ds 0x10 es 0x10 fs 0x18 ss 0x10 eax 0xc02ade20 Giant ecx 0xc0e7f040 edx 0 ebx 0xc780634c esp 0xc7821ce4 ebp 0xc7821cf0 esi 0 edi 0xc0294ed8 w_data+0x1518 eip 0xc015c3f5 witness_exit+0x23d efl 0x10282 witness_exit+0x23d: movl %eax,0(%edx) db> show mutexes "lockmgr interlock" (0xc05a8ef0) locked at ../../kern/kern_lock.c:239 "Giant" (0xc02ade20) locked at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1169 db> who=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08show witness Sleep mutexes: 0 rman head -- last acquired @ ../../kern/subr_rman.c:107 0 sf_bufs list lock -- last acquired @ ../../kern/uipc_syscalls.c:1437 0 vm86pcb lock -- last acquired @ ../../i386/i386/vm86.c:579 0 Giant -- last acquired @ ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1169 1 mbuf free list lock -- last acquired @ ../../kern/uipc_mbuf.c:591 1 vnode pollinfo -- last acquired @ ../../kern/vfs_subr.c:2761 1 vm object_list -- last acquired @ ../../vm/vm_object.c:456 1 ip_inq -- last acquired @ ../../netinet/ip_input.c:817 1 arp_inq -- last acquired @ ../../netinet/if_ether.c:446 1 eventhandler -- last acquired @ ../../kern/subr_eventhandler.c:76 3 lockmgr interlock -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_lock.c:239 5 process lock -- last acquired @ ../../i386/i386/trap.c:880 6 ucred -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_prot.c:1177 6 uidinfo hash -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:765 7 malloc -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:317 7 uidinfo struct -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:782 4 lockmgr -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_lock.c:505 5 process lock -- last acquired @ ../../i386/i386/trap.c:880 6 ucred -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_prot.c:1177 6 uidinfo hash -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:765 7 malloc -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:317 7 uidinfo struct -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:782 1 zone subsystem -- last acquired @ ../../vm/vm_zone.c:422 3 lockmgr interlock -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_lock.c:239 5 process lock -- last acquired @ ../../i386/i386/trap.c:880 6 ucred -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_prot.c:1177 6 uidinfo hash -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:765 7 malloc -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:317 7 uidinfo struct -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:782 3 zone -- last acquired @ ../../vm/vm_zone.c:366 4 lockmgr -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_lock.c:505 5 process lock -- last acquired @ ../../i386/i386/trap.c:880 6 ucred -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_prot.c:1177 6 uidinfo hash -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:765 7 malloc -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:317 7 uidinfo struct -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:782 1 bpf interface lock -- last acquired @ ../../net/bpf.c:1070 2 bpf1 -- last acquired @ ../../net/bpf.c:1074 2 bpf0 -- last acquired @ ../../net/bpf.c:1074 3 lockmgr interlock -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_lock.c:239 5 process lock -- last acquired @ ../../i386/i386/trap.c:880 6 ucred -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_prot.c:1177 6 uidinfo hash -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:765 7 malloc -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:317 7 uidinfo struct -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:782 1 ifsvgt -- last acquired @ ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1128 1 ep -- last acquired @ ../../dev/ep/if_ep.c:480 1 mcluster free list lock -- last acquired @ ../../kern/uipc_mbuf.c:591 1 m_ext counter free list lock -- last acquired @ ../../kern/uipc_mbuf.c:5= 91 1 ufs ihash -- last acquired @ ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_ihash.c:133 2 vnode interlock -- last acquired @ ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:375 3 lockmgr interlock -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_lock.c:239 5 process lock -- last acquired @ ../../i386/i386/trap.c:880 6 ucred -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_prot.c:1177 6 uidinfo hash -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:765 7 malloc -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:317 7 uidinfo struct -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:782 3 spechash -- last acquired @ ../../kern/vfs_subr.c:2003 3 mntvnode -- last acquired @ ../../kern/vfs_subr.c:650 3 vnode_free_list -- last acquired @ ../../kern/vfs_subr.c:2674 3 zone -- last acquired @ ../../vm/vm_zone.c:366 4 lockmgr -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_lock.c:505 5 process lock -- last acquired @ ../../i386/i386/trap.c:880 6 ucred -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_prot.c:1177 6 uidinfo hash -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:765 7 malloc -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:317 7 uidinfo struct -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:782 1 mntid -- last acquired @ ../../kern/vfs_subr.c:426 2 mountlist -- last acquired @ ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:379 3 lockmgr interlock -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_lock.c:239 5 process lock -- last acquired @ ../../i386/i386/trap.c:880 6 ucred -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_prot.c:1177 6 uidinfo hash -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:765 7 malloc -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:317 7 uidinfo struct -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:782 1 pccbb1 -- last acquired @ ../../dev/pccbb/pccbb.c:632 2 rman -- last acquired @ ../../kern/subr_rman.c:420 7 malloc -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:317 2 bpf global lock -- last acquired @ ../../net/bpf.c:921 3 zone -- last acquired @ ../../vm/vm_zone.c:366 4 lockmgr -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_lock.c:505 5 process lock -- last acquired @ ../../i386/i386/trap.c:880 6 ucred -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_prot.c:1177 6 uidinfo hash -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:765 7 malloc -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:317 7 uidinfo struct -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:782 1 pccbb0 -- last acquired @ ../../dev/pccbb/pccbb.c:632 7 malloc -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:317 1 random reseed -- last acquired @ ../../dev/random/yarrow.c:272 1 fork list -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_sx.c:138 1 buftime lock -- last acquired @ ../../sys/buf.h:255 3 lockmgr interlock -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_lock.c:239 5 process lock -- last acquired @ ../../i386/i386/trap.c:880 6 ucred -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_prot.c:1177 6 uidinfo hash -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:765 7 malloc -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:317 7 uidinfo struct -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:782 1 proctree -- last acquired @ order list:0 2 allproc -- last acquired @ order list:0 5 process lock -- last acquired @ ../../i386/i386/trap.c:880 6 ucred -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_prot.c:1177 6 uidinfo hash -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:765 7 malloc -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:317 7 uidinfo struct -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_resource.c:782 Spin mutexes: 1 sio -- last acquired @ ../../isa/sio.c:1825 5 ithread table lock -- last acquired @ ../../i386/isa/intr_machdep.c:= 576 6 ithread list lock -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_intr.c:249 7 sched lock -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_clock.c:350 8 clk -- last acquired @ ../../i386/isa/clock.c:1192 9 callout -- last acquired @ ../../kern/kern_clock.c:203 Mutexes which were never acquired: msdosfs dehash lo db>=20 --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 7:38:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (ns.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA8E37B71B; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:38:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from max@vic.sabbo.net) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (root@vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.112]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f28FcD216660; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:38:15 +0200 Received: (from max@localhost) by vic.sabbo.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f28FcFA27526; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:38:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) From: Maxim Sobolev Message-Id: <200103081538.f28FcFA27526@vic.sabbo.net> Subject: Perl bootstraping issues (updated) To: markm@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:36:54 +0200 (EET) Cc: current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, As I reported earlier, starting from about a months ago I'm having strange problems with building 5-current world on 4-stable system. As long as nobody confirmed this problem in the similar setups I investigated further and found that problem is due to my non-standard directory layout. Usually I keep my -current and -stable sources on a 4-stable box shared over nfs and my directories layout is as following: /usr/src <- 4-stable sources /usr/current/src <- 5-current sources When I renamed /usr/src into /usr/src4 and /usr/current/src into /usr/src the 5-current buildworld went without any problems, then I renamed /usr/src back into /usr/current/src and tried again and buildworld failed with the following errors: building static perl library ranlib libperl.a sh /usr/current/src/tools/install.sh -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libperl.a /sha res/UF/obj/usr/current/src/i386/usr/lib cd /usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl; make obj; make depend; make al l; make install /shares/UF/obj/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl created for /usr/curren t/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl make: don't know how to make miniperlmain.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Of course before doing builds I cleared both OBJDIR and my source tree (the latter using utility that clears all leftovers based on cvsup's checkout file). Thus, it is clear than something goes wrong in the perl bootstrap process. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 9:31:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wgate.com (mail.wgate.com [38.219.83.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676D637B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:31:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rjesup@wgate.com) Received: from jesup.eng.tvol.net ([10.32.2.26]) by mail.wgate.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GN5Y4AJ8; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:31:10 -0500 Reply-To: Randell Jesup To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: well! That root didn't work! Let's try another! From: Randell Jesup Date: 08 Mar 2001 12:31:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: Matthew Jacob's message of "Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:13:36 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Jacob writes: >> > My FreeBSD-alpha PC164 lost it's IDE disk for 4.2 somehow- which I'd >> > just loaded the 4.2 kernel from- so it decided to run off of da0 >> > instead, which was -current. Truly a startling turn of >> > events. Shouldn't one stop and ask if the root one asked for isn't >> > available? >> >> There are two schools of thought here. One says "you should try very >> hard to find a root device", the other says "you should boot only from >> the exactly correct root device and complain otherwise". I took the >> first approach because its advocates shouted more loudly than those of >> the second. >> Would a louder warning message be enough of a compromised? > >Actually, no. I think very strongly that you shouldn't always look that hard >automatically- you should look hard to find reasonable choices (you could say, >da2, 7 and 9 have what *appear* to be filesystems I can use)- but you >shouldn't just launch onto them- vital customer data corruption can result. As suggested, if the correct root device can't be found, the boot _should_ offer you a choice of running off others that appear to be bootable. Also, I certainly can see instances where someone would want to have it take an alternate partition to run off of - it could be an alternate boot behavior programmed into the boot block code at label time. Note: I don't know exactly what we do now; I'm just taking the above comments as fact. -- Randell Jesup, Worldgate Communications, ex-Scala, ex-Amiga OS team ('88-94) rjesup@wgate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 9:38:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BE737B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:38:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f28HdqY01512; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:39:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200103081739.f28HdqY01512@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Randell Jesup Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: well! That root didn't work! Let's try another! In-reply-to: Your message of "08 Mar 2001 12:31:10 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 09:39:52 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > As suggested, if the correct root device can't be found, the boot > _should_ offer you a choice of running off others that appear to be > bootable. The "appear to be bootable" criterion is almost impossible (and unsafe to attempt) to determine. Also, I certainly can see instances where someone would want to > have it take an alternate partition to run off of - it could be an > alternate boot behavior programmed into the boot block code at label time. > Note: I don't know exactly what we do now; I'm just taking the above > comments as fact. The current arrangement provides almost maximal flexibility; I find it odd that rather than determining the facts for yourself, you base your comments on an inaccurate reading of a not-very-accurate posting. 8) -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 10: 0:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from moby.geekhouse.net (moby.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02FB37B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:00:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp152.geekhouse.net [192.168.1.152]) by moby.geekhouse.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f28Hwk103678; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:58:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010308132714.A569@webcom.it> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 09:57:10 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Andrea Campi Subject: RE: Panic mounting msdos fs Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 08-Mar-01 Andrea Campi wrote: > Yesterday -current: > ># mount /msdos > > Acquring duplicate lock of same type: "lockmgr interlock" > 1st @ ../../kern/kern_lock.c:239 > 2nd @ ../../kern/kern_lock.c:239 > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual address = 0x0 > fault code = supervisor write, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc015c3f5 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xc7821ce4 > frame pointer = 0x10:0xc7821cf0 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 489 (mount_msdos) > kernel: type 12 trap, code=0 > Stopped at witness_exit+0x23d: movl %eax,0(%edx) > db> (kgdb) l *(witness_exit+0x23d) 0xc0200e41 is in witness_exit (../../kern/kern_mutex.c:1303). 1300 if ((flags & MTX_NOSWITCH) == 0 && !mtx_legal2block() && !cold) 1301 panic("switchable mtx_unlock() of %s when not legal @ %s:%d", 1302 m->mtx_description, file, line); 1303 LIST_REMOVE(m, mtx_held); 1304 m->mtx_held.le_prev = NULL; 1305 } Hmmmm. It dereferenced NULL in the LIST_REMOVE(). Did you get a dump by any chance? -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 11: 3:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wgate.com (mail.wgate.com [38.219.83.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C022E37B71A for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:03:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rjesup@wgate.com) Received: from jesup.eng.tvol.net ([10.32.2.26]) by mail.wgate.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GN5Y4A0S; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:03:45 -0500 Reply-To: Randell Jesup To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mount: /dev/ad0s1e: File name too long From: Randell Jesup Date: 08 Mar 2001 14:03:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: Bruce Evans's message of "Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:24:25 +1100 (EST)" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bruce Evans writes: >I think I prefer the old behaviour. The names preserved by the kernel >can't possibly remain valid until unmount in all cases. Examples: >- pathnames relative to the current directory work. These only remain > valid if the process that does the mount also does the unmount (and > doesn't chdir). >- the pathnames may involve symlinks that go away or change before > unmount. >The fix for this is: don't do that. This is also a reaonable fix for >long pathnames -- don't use them unless you really have to. Long >names even mess up the most common uses of the preserved names -- >displaying them in df, mount, etc. And what if you have to use them (or want to)? If df/mount/etc have bugs, let's fix those (not that I think they're significant). -- Randell Jesup, Worldgate Communications, ex-Scala, ex-Amiga OS team ('88-94) rjesup@wgate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 13: 5:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9739837B71B for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:05:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from kargl@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f28L8Jq37501 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:08:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kargl) From: "Steven G. Kargl" Message-Id: <200103082108.f28L8Jq37501@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: linux module or linux_devtools problem? To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:08:19 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The Portland Group's linux Fortran compiler used to work without a problem, but something has changed that I haven't track down. The script(1) log below suggests two possibilities: (1) the translation of linux syscalls to FreeBSD syscalls isn't working; or (2) the linux ld command (see log) needs some additional options. Any suggestions? -- Steve http://troutmask.apl.washington.edu/~kargl/ Script started on Thu Mar 8 12:57:59 2001 /usr/pgi/linux86/bin/pgftn shell.f -x 124 0x1400 -x 122 0x40 -x 119 0x10000\ -x 123 0x1000 -x 119 0x800000 -x 127 4 -x 124 1 -astype 0 -stdinc /usr/pgi/\ linux86/include:/compat/linux/usr/include:/compat/linux/usr/lib/gcc-lib/\ i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.91.66//include -opt 1 -x 80 0x300 -y 80 0x1000\ -asm /var/tmp/pgf7737423aaa PGFTN/x86 Linux/x86 Rel 1.7-6.3: compilation successful pgf77: /usr/pgi/linux86/bin/pgftn completed with exit code 0 /compat/linux/usr/bin/as -o shell.o /var/tmp/pgf7737423aaa pgf77: /compat/linux/usr/bin/as completed with exit code 0 Unlinking /var/tmp/pgf7737423aaa Linking: /compat/linux/usr/bin/ld -m elf_i386 -dynamic-linker /compat/linux/lib/\ ld-linux.so.2 -o shell /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/crt1.o /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/\ crti.o /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/pgfmain.o -L/usr/pgi/linux86/lib -L/compat/\ linux/lib -L/compat/linux/usr/lib -L/compat/linux/usr/lib/gcc-lib/\ i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.91.66/ shell.o -lpgftnrtl -lm -lpgc -lgcc -lc\ -lgcc /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/crtn.o /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/crt1.o: In function `_start': /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x40): undefined reference to `__setfpucw' /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x48): undefined reference to `__libc_init' /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/libpgftnrtl.a(stdinit.o): In function `__stat': stdinit.o(.text+0x2c): undefined reference to `_xstat' /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/libpgftnrtl.a(stdinit.o): In function `stat': stdinit.o(.text+0x5c): undefined reference to `_xstat' /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/libpgftnrtl.a(stdinit.o): In function `__lstat': stdinit.o(.text+0x8c): undefined reference to `_lxstat' /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/libpgftnrtl.a(stdinit.o): In function `lstat': stdinit.o(.text+0xbc): undefined reference to `_lxstat' /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/libpgftnrtl.a(stdinit.o): In function `__fstat': stdinit.o(.text+0xec): undefined reference to `_fxstat' /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/libpgftnrtl.a(stdinit.o): In function `fstat': stdinit.o(.text+0x11c): undefined reference to `_fxstat' /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/libpgftnrtl.a(stdinit.o): In function `__mknod': stdinit.o(.text+0x156): undefined reference to `_xmknod' /usr/pgi/linux86/lib/libpgftnrtl.a(stdinit.o): In function `mknod': stdinit.o(.text+0x196): undefined reference to `_xmknod' pgf77: /compat/linux/usr/bin/ld completed with exit code 1 Unlinking Unlinking Unlinking /var/tmp/pgf7737423aaa Unlinking shell Script done on Thu Mar 8 12:58:01 2001 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 14: 1:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0EC37B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:01:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19249 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:01:42 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:01:39 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I did a buildworld/installworld on an alpha yesterday, and now I'm left with: start_init: trying /sbin/init Entropy harvesting: interrupts ethernet. And this is even with booting from an older kernel. Umm... anyone gotta clue on this one? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 14:19:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gauntlet.telerama.com (gauntlet.telerama.com [205.201.1.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C7737B71B for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:19:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@telerama.com) Received: from gauntlet.telerama.com (ncrawler@gauntlet.telerama.com [205.201.1.214]) by gauntlet.telerama.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f28MJNJ02531 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:19:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:19:23 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: To: Subject: problems with sound in 5.0-20010126-CURRENT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having a small problem with sound output not sounding quite right under FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT. The sound mostly works. I can play MP3s using mpg123/x11amp/xmms... The problem is that when I start moving the mouse around a lot, the sound distorts and the kernel occasionally spits out a message like: Mar 8 16:07:17 choplifter /boot/kernel/kernel: pcm1: hwptr went backwards 536 - > 444 Here's the uname output and contents of /dev/sndstat (the sound card is built-in to the motherboard, one of the CS423x chips): FreeBSD choplifter.telerama.com 5.0-20010126-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-20010126-CURRENT #1: Mon Feb 12 17:40:59 EST 2001 ncrawler@choplifter.telerama.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/CHOPLIFTER i386 % cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Feb 2 2001 12:08:32 Installed devices: pcm1: at io 0x534 irq 5 drq 1:0 (1p/1r channels duplex) The machine is a Pentium II 333MHz, and I never had any problems with the sound distorting while playing MP3s in X-windows when I was running 4.2-STABLE. Also, I used to run KDE, now I use fvwm2, and the machine is not loaded down at all... (The CPU is mainly idle when the sound distorts.) Like I mentioned earlier, I really only hear the sound distort when the mouse is moved quickly. I can actually *compile* ports and as long as I don't move the mouse, the sound is fine as far as I've noticed... The kernel messages only appear every few minutes. There were about 30-40 of them in /var/log/messages, usually occuring once or twice every few minutes. Anyone have any suggestions on what might be causing this problem? Like I said, it was fine under 4.2-STABLE. All of the hardware is exactly the same as it was then... -Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 17:22:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A8037B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:22:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA20744; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:22:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: current@freebsd.org Subject: New & improved panic! From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 09 Mar 2001 02:22:27 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kernel: type 12 trap, code=0 Stopped at 0: kernel: type 12 trap, code=0 db> trace kernel: type 12 trap, code=0 db> panic panic: from debugger Debugger("panic") Stopped at 0:kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc02660f0 stack pointer = 0x10:0xcaec2dd4 frame pointer = 0x10:0xcaec2dd8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 14 (random) kernel: type 12 trap, code=0 db> panic: from debugger Uptime: 17m48s dumping to dev ad0b, offset 131104 dump ata0: resetting devices .. done 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 succeeded Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Rebooting... DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 17:53:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F34437B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:53:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA20856; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:53:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Cc: Subject: Re: problems with sound in 5.0-20010126-CURRENT References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 09 Mar 2001 02:53:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: 's message of "Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:19:23 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG writes: > The sound mostly works. I can play MP3s using mpg123/x11amp/xmms... > The problem is that when I start moving the mouse around a lot, the > sound distorts and the kernel occasionally spits out a message like: > > Mar 8 16:07:17 choplifter /boot/kernel/kernel: pcm1: hwptr went > backwards 536 - > 444 This has been a known problem for several months now. Please do not run -CURRENT unless you follow the freebsd-current mailing list closely. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 17:57:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB0D37B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:57:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA20893; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:57:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New & improved panic! References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 09 Mar 2001 02:57:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav's message of "09 Mar 2001 02:22:27 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 54 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > db> trace > kernel: type 12 trap, code=0 Blah. Here's what gdb says: (kgdb) where #0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:478 #1 0xc019131b in boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:321 #2 0xc01916e5 in panic (fmt=0xc02940b4 "from debugger") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:571 #3 0xc011f1d5 in db_panic (addr=0, have_addr=0, count=1, modif=0xcaec2dd8 "") at ../../ddb/db_command.c:433 #4 0xc011f175 in db_command (last_cmdp=0xc02cd880, cmd_table=0xc02cd6e0, aux_cmd_tablep=0xc0310cdc) at ../../ddb/db_command.c:333 #5 0xc011f23a in db_command_loop () at ../../ddb/db_command.c:455 #6 0xc0121403 in db_trap (type=12, code=0) at ../../ddb/db_trap.c:71 #7 0xc0265ffe in kdb_trap (type=12, code=0, regs=0xcaec2f28) at ../../i386/i386/db_interface.c:164 #8 0xc0275700 in trap_fatal (frame=0xcaec2f28, eva=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:982 #9 0xc0275475 in trap_pfault (frame=0xcaec2f28, usermode=0, eva=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:901 #10 0xc0274504 in trap (frame={tf_fs = 24, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -890491044, tf_isp = -890491052, tf_ebx = 32, tf_edx = -1070513800, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = -1071185861, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = 0, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66194, tf_esp = -1072401776, tf_ss = -894758432}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:448 #11 0x0 in ?? () (kgdb) up 10 #10 0xc0274504 in trap (frame={tf_fs = 24, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -890491044, tf_isp = -890491052, tf_ebx = 32, tf_edx = -1070513800, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = -1071185861, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = 0, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66194, tf_esp = -1072401776, tf_ss = -894758432}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:448 448 (void) trap_pfault(&frame, FALSE, eva); (kgdb) p/x frame.tf_esp $1 = 0xc0147290 (kgdb) l *0xc0147290 0xc0147290 is in random_kthread (../../dev/random/yarrow.c:97). 92 mtx_lock(&Giant); 93 printf("OWNERSHIP Giant == %d sched_lock == %d\n", 94 mtx_owned(&Giant), mtx_owned(&sched_lock)); 95 mtx_unlock(&Giant); 96 #endif 97 98 for (pl = 0; pl < 2; pl++) 99 yarrow_hash_init(&random_state.pool[pl].hash, NULL, 0); 100 101 for (;;) { DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 19:49:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gauntlet.telerama.com (gauntlet.telerama.com [205.201.1.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEE037B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:49:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ncrawler@telerama.com) Received: from gauntlet.telerama.com (ncrawler@gauntlet.telerama.com [205.201.1.214]) by gauntlet.telerama.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f293nVJ12130 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:49:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:49:31 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Tracy To: Subject: Re: problems with sound in 5.0-20010126-CURRENT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Mar 8 16:07:17 choplifter /boot/kernel/kernel: pcm1: hwptr went > > backwards 536 - > 444 > > This has been a known problem for several months now. Please do not > run -CURRENT unless you follow the freebsd-current mailing list > closely. Sorry -- I forgot to mention that I did search the archives and found some other people mentioning this problem. I saw a couple of resolutions, which I haven't tried yet, but I'm going to give them a try when I have time. I hadn't found anyone reporting problems specifically regarding the Crystal Semiconductors sound chips, so I figured I'd post my problem to the list. Maybe I'll just switch back to -STABLE for now... -Chris > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 8 22:18:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9020137B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:18:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA20746; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:18:26 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:18:23 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Steve Kargl Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: tape device names and devfs In-Reply-To: <200103060709.f2679OZ04542@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Steve Kargl wrote: > Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > > > What are the names of the tape devices under devfs? > > > > > > Should dump(8) use /dev/sa0 for the rewind device and > > > /dev/nsa0 for no rewind device? Should /etc/rc.devfs > > > create symlinks from rsa0 and nrsa0 for backwards compatibility? > > > > > > Can you give a hint as to which release you're trying this with? > > FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #2: Mon Mar 5 10:40:22 PST 2001 > kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TROUTMASK > > > > Does rc.devfs mean anything at all with -current's devfs? I just changed the > > sa driver to create the correct aliases. > > > > Yes, I use it to set permissions on cd0 and cd0c during boot. > I could add "ln -sf /dev/nsa0 /dev/nrsa0" for backwards > compatibility. > > dump.8 and dump(8) both refer explicitly to nsa0 and nrsa0 whereas > sa0 and nsa0 are the actual device names in -current. Hrmm.. Didn't somebody just fix this? At any rate, by all means add whatever you think appropriate to rc.devfs. If you think the sa driver should create an alias for backward compatibility do so or let know. Frankly- I think given that this is 5.0 that 'compatibility' is not needed. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 0: 3:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C094637B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:03:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2980pA50964; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:00:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010308132714.A569@webcom.it> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 00:00:32 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Andrea Campi Subject: RE: Panic mounting msdos fs Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 08-Mar-01 Andrea Campi wrote: > Yesterday -current: It seems modules are broken with witness right now. Before you were ok as long as you didn't unload the darn things, now they seem to be toast altogether, so you will want to use a static kernel for now until this is fixed. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 1:27:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (grouter.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD9637B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 01:27:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (root@gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f299R5f69644; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:27:11 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <200103090927.f299R5f69644@gratis.grondar.za> To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it... References: In-Reply-To: ; from Matthew Jacob "Thu, 08 Mar 2001 14:01:39 PST." Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:28:00 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I did a buildworld/installworld on an alpha yesterday, and now I'm left with: > > start_init: trying /sbin/init > Entropy harvesting: interrupts ethernet. > > > And this is even with booting from an older kernel. Umm... anyone gotta clue > on this one? You have your entropy device set to block on boot? M -- Mark Murray Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 1:31: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (grouter.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF8A37B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 01:30:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (root@gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f299UZf69661; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:30:38 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <200103090930.f299UZf69661@gratis.grondar.za> To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New & improved panic! References: In-Reply-To: ; from Dag-Erling Smorgrav "09 Mar 2001 02:57:43 +0100." Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:31:30 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > 0xc0147290 is in random_kthread (../../dev/random/yarrow.c:97). > 92 mtx_lock(&Giant); > 93 printf("OWNERSHIP Giant == %d sched_lock == %d\n", > 94 mtx_owned(&Giant), mtx_owned(&sched_lock)); > 95 mtx_unlock(&Giant); > 96 #endif > 97 > 98 for (pl = 0; pl < 2; pl++) > 99 yarrow_hash_init(&random_state.pool[pl].hash, NULL, 0); > 100 > 101 for (;;) { Is DEBUG defined? M -- Mark Murray Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 1:52: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from acampi.inet.it (acampi.inet.it [213.92.4.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F6E537B71A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 01:51:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrea@webcom.it) Received: (qmail 4614 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2001 10:51:03 -0000 Received: from brian.inet.it (HELO webcom.it) (213.92.4.195) by acampi.inet.it with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 10:51:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 4003 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Mar 2001 09:48:33 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:48:33 +0100 From: Andrea Campi To: John Baldwin Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Panic mounting msdos fs Message-ID: <20010309104832.A841@webcom.it> References: <20010308132714.A569@webcom.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 12:00:32AM -0800 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi John, didn't have time to reply to your previous email (I was sleeping ;-)) before getting this. Do you still need the dump? > On 08-Mar-01 Andrea Campi wrote: > > Yesterday -current: > > It seems modules are broken with witness right now. Before you were ok as long > as you didn't unload the darn things, now they seem to be toast altogether, so > you will want to use a static kernel for now until this is fixed. Doesn't it warrant a very big HEADSUP? Anyway, I'll compile in everything I routinely use, ok. Thanks. Bye, Andrea -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh, wait a minute, he already does. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 2:20:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B7137B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:20:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f29AHvA54160; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:17:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010309104832.A841@webcom.it> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 02:17:40 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Andrea Campi Subject: Re: Panic mounting msdos fs Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-Mar-01 Andrea Campi wrote: > Hi John, > > didn't have time to reply to your previous email (I was sleeping ;-)) before > getting this. Do you still need the dump? No, jlemon and I figured it out on irc. I'm not sure why it's broken yet. >> On 08-Mar-01 Andrea Campi wrote: >> > Yesterday -current: >> >> It seems modules are broken with witness right now. Before you were ok as >> long >> as you didn't unload the darn things, now they seem to be toast altogether, >> so >> you will want to use a static kernel for now until this is fixed. > > Doesn't it warrant a very big HEADSUP? Probably, they've already been partially broken, though the partial brokenness that I know how to fix will be fixed hopefully before too long. I'm not sure yet why sticking a mutex in a kld causes us to walk off a NULL pointer. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 5:48: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ho.egroups.com (ho.egroups.com [64.211.240.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 578D437B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:48:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ) Received: from [10.1.4.55] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2001 13:47:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 34889 invoked by uid 7800); 9 Mar 2001 13:47:54 -0000 Date: 9 Mar 2001 13:47:54 -0000 Message-ID: <984145674.24.34888.l9@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org From: Yahoo!Groups Subject: Unable to process your message Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="i1yY7dKdksgv7CweifkZkVTl2MWu6DKZk0ldnQ7" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --i1yY7dKdksgv7CweifkZkVTl2MWu6DKZk0ldnQ7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are unable to process the message from to . 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For further assistance, please email support@yahoogroups.com or visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups --i1yY7dKdksgv7CweifkZkVTl2MWu6DKZk0ldnQ7 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: (qmail 34870 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2001 13:47:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Mar 2001 13:47:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mrout2.yahoo.com) (208.48.125.152) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 14:48:58 -0000 Received: from daintree.yahoo.com (daintree.yahoo.com [205.216.162.172]) by mrout2.yahoo.com (8.11.1/8.11.1/y.out) with ESMTP id f29DlrQ34188 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:47:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from peter@localhost) by daintree.yahoo.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f29Dlru94638 for HipHopProductions-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:47:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from current@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:47:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103091347.f29Dlru94638@daintree.yahoo.com> X-Authentication-Warning: daintree.yahoo.com: peter set sender to current@freebsd.org using -f From: current@freebsd.org To: HipHopProductions-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Subject: DIE!! DIE!! --i1yY7dKdksgv7CweifkZkVTl2MWu6DKZk0ldnQ7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 9:21: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.targetnet.com (smtp.targetnet.com [205.150.0.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB4737B719; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:20:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@targetnet.com) Received: from james by smtp.targetnet.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14bQZL-000Far-00; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 12:20:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:20:47 -0500 From: James FitzGibbon To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: PR bin/25110 - pthreads signal handling problem Message-ID: <20010309122047.A34827@targetnet.com> Reply-To: jfitz@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: James FitzGibbon , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm wondering if anyone has the time or inclination to take a look at a fix for PR bin/25110. We're having problems using a freshly-built 4.2-stable box (technically 4.3 rc at this point), and the bug is still present. I'm not sure how many people would see this problem (we see it because we have to compile Apache 1.x with the -pthread switch due to add-on modules that are threaded). Under 4.1-stable, everything was fine. At some point between 4.1-stable and 4.2-release, something changed, but my hunt through the CVS repository hasn't revealed anything obvious. In any case, it's a repeatable bug (the PR includes a code sample) and unless looked at, it will be a bug in 4.3-release. If there's any clarification needed, please let me know. TIA. -- j. James FitzGibbon james@targetnet.com Targetnet.com Inc. Voice/Fax +1 416 306-0466/0452 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 9:32:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFCA37B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:32:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22620; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:32:32 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:32:29 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it... In-Reply-To: <200103090927.f299R5f69644@gratis.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I changed nothing from whatever the default is. It seems like a bit of POLA to freeze now. But I'll check this - if I can get that machine up again :-)... > > I did a buildworld/installworld on an alpha yesterday, and now I'm left with: > > > > start_init: trying /sbin/init > > Entropy harvesting: interrupts ethernet. > > > > > > And this is even with booting from an older kernel. Umm... anyone gotta clue > > on this one? > > You have your entropy device set to block on boot? > > M > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 9:40:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0023E37B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:40:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 37AFD66BC4; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:40:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:40:34 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Mark Murray , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it... Message-ID: <20010309094033.A8136@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <200103090927.f299R5f69644@gratis.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 09:32:29AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 09:32:29AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: >=20 > I changed nothing from whatever the default is. It seems like a bit of PO= LA to > freeze now.=20 >=20 > But I'll check this - if I can get that machine up again :-)... Press ^T when it freezes and see if it's just blocked in rndslp or truly fr= ozen. Kris --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6qRWRWry0BWjoQKURArYrAKDTKLQ/flvDxvpSisU92hsL98I7iACffjLE 7dzAwV6Q3QpXYFErmpWbuBY= =H2Fw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 9:42: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (grouter.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C9237B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:41:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (root@gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29Hfbf71430; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:41:40 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <200103091741.f29Hfbf71430@gratis.grondar.za> To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it... References: In-Reply-To: ; from Matthew Jacob "Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:32:29 PST." Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 19:42:33 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I changed nothing from whatever the default is. It seems like a bit of POLA to > freeze now. > > But I'll check this - if I can get that machine up again :-)... OK - if this is the entropy driver, then typing about 2 lines of shit will unlock it. Please put some echo's into the rc scripts to tie down where this is happening. M -- Mark Murray Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 9:43:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EBB37B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:43:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22720; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:43:41 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:43:38 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Kris Kennaway Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it... In-Reply-To: <20010309094033.A8136@mollari.cthul.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 09:32:29AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > I changed nothing from whatever the default is. It seems like a bit of POLA to > > freeze now. > > > > But I'll check this - if I can get that machine up again :-)... > > Press ^T when it freezes and see if it's just blocked in rndslp or truly frozen. Not being a csh/tcsh user, I of course didn't think of that! Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 9:46: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E58637B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:46:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22728; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:44:39 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:44:36 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it... In-Reply-To: <200103091741.f29Hfbf71430@gratis.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Mark Murray wrote: > > I changed nothing from whatever the default is. It seems like a bit of POLA to > > freeze now. > > > > But I'll check this - if I can get that machine up again :-)... > > OK - if this is the entropy driver, then typing about 2 lines of shit > will unlock it. I did try the typing trick... but that didn't help..... lemme power this sucker on (it's the big 4100- I keep it off unless I'm working on it specifically- it sucks down lots of power and we're still supposedly in 'conserve' mode in California...) > > Please put some echo's into the rc scripts to tie down where this is > happening. > > M > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 10: 0:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5447E37B719; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:00:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id NAA20426; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:00:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:00:09 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Eischen To: James FitzGibbon Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PR bin/25110 - pthreads signal handling problem In-Reply-To: <20010309122047.A34827@targetnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, James FitzGibbon wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone has the time or inclination to take a look at a fix > for PR bin/25110. We're having problems using a freshly-built 4.2-stable > box (technically 4.3 rc at this point), and the bug is still present. > > I'm not sure how many people would see this problem (we see it because we > have to compile Apache 1.x with the -pthread switch due to add-on modules > that are threaded). Under 4.1-stable, everything was fine. At some point > between 4.1-stable and 4.2-release, something changed, but my hunt through > the CVS repository hasn't revealed anything obvious. > > In any case, it's a repeatable bug (the PR includes a code sample) and > unless looked at, it will be a bug in 4.3-release. > > If there's any clarification needed, please let me know. You can try the included patch. -- Dan Eischen Index: uthread_fork.c =================================================================== RCS file: /opt/FreeBSD/cvs/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_fork.c,v retrieving revision 1.21 diff -u -r1.21 uthread_fork.c --- uthread_fork.c 2001/01/24 13:03:33 1.21 +++ uthread_fork.c 2001/03/09 17:53:37 @@ -32,6 +32,7 @@ * $FreeBSD: src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_fork.c,v 1.21 2001/01/24 13:03:33 deischen Exp $ */ #include +#include #include #include #include @@ -110,7 +111,16 @@ else if (_pq_init(&_readyq) != 0) { /* Abort this application: */ PANIC("Cannot initialize priority ready queue."); - } else { + } else if ((_thread_sigstack.ss_sp == NULL) && + ((_thread_sigstack.ss_sp = malloc(SIGSTKSZ)) == NULL)) + PANIC("Unable to allocate alternate signal stack"); + else { + /* Install the alternate signal stack: */ + _thread_sigstack.ss_size = SIGSTKSZ; + _thread_sigstack.ss_flags = 0; + if (__sys_sigaltstack(&_thread_sigstack, NULL) != 0) + PANIC("Unable to install alternate signal stack"); + /* * Enter a loop to remove all threads other than * the running thread from the thread list: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 10:19:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from aes.thinksec.com (aes.thinksec.com [193.212.248.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE74D37B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:19:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@thinksec.com) Received: (from des@localhost) by aes.thinksec.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f29IJQ149651; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:19:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@thinksec.com) X-Authentication-Warning: aes.thinksec.com: des set sender to des@thinksec.com using -f X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New & improved panic! References: <200103090930.f299UZf69661@gratis.grondar.za> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 09 Mar 2001 19:19:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: Mark Murray's message of "Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:31:30 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Murray writes: > Is DEBUG defined? Nope. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@thinksec.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 10:27:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCEC37B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:27:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22931; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:27:02 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:26:59 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it... In-Reply-To: <200103091741.f29Hfbf71430@gratis.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Mark Murray wrote: > > I changed nothing from whatever the default is. It seems like a bit of POLA to > > freeze now. > > > > But I'll check this - if I can get that machine up again :-)... > > OK - if this is the entropy driver, then typing about 2 lines of shit > will unlock it. Neither ^T or typing does anything. I'll have to do some surgery from another boot disk to find out what's what. Uk. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 10:41: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C9637B718; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:40:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22988; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:40:48 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:40:45 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Mark Murray , Kris Kennaway Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I commented out all of the Entropy stuff at the front of rc and I was able to finish booting again. I'll do another buildworld/installworld and buildkernel/installkernel to see whether the problem re-appears. I'll leave the 'set -x' in my rc when I retest. I noticed the (re)appearance of a line which had caused problems in the past (the 'ps' generation foo). I'd really appreciate if the following would occur: 1. The entropy stuff gets it's own rc file. There's a lot of it. 2. You make it an option we can turn off sourcing it from rc. Also- we should really consider whether or not the breakage that has happened three or four times now is telling us something. This attempt to reseed entropy seems to be riskier than not having the entropy reseeded at all! :-) If this entropy stuff is all that important, maybe we should consider having this done entirely within the kernel as part of the config state tree (and not as a kmod or an option) so that a simple non-blocking sysctl early in RC can get you what you want. That is, by the time you call /sbin/init, you have gathered enough entropy. Or if you cannot do so (which I would imagine could actually be a true statement as all I/O results are *generally* pretty predictable until you turn on networking), can you do it *after* the system is almost all the way up? I guess I'm saying I don't want to have to get hung up like this any more. Please. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 13:33:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD9937B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:33:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f29LXTA74395; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:33:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 13:33:19 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Matthew Jacob Subject: Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it... Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-Mar-01 Matthew Jacob wrote: > On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Mark Murray wrote: > >> > I changed nothing from whatever the default is. It seems like a bit of >> > POLA to >> > freeze now. >> > >> > But I'll check this - if I can get that machine up again :-)... >> >> OK - if this is the entropy driver, then typing about 2 lines of shit >> will unlock it. > > Neither ^T or typing does anything. I'll have to do some surgery from another > boot disk to find out what's what. Uk. Erm, just so you know. The 4100 here at WC doesn't even make it past the SCSI probe due to interrupt issues. If it's running really up to date current, try changing sys/alpha/include/mutex.h to define mtx_intr_enable() to nothing, which will hackishly run ithreads with a raised IPL and might solve the problem if its an interrupt storm you are seeing. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 9 13:40: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E469937B719; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:39:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23660; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:40:01 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:39:58 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: John Baldwin Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, Mark Murray Subject: Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 09-Mar-01 Matthew Jacob wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Mark Murray wrote: > > > >> > I changed nothing from whatever the default is. It seems like a bit of > >> > POLA to > >> > freeze now. > >> > > >> > But I'll check this - if I can get that machine up again :-)... > >> > >> OK - if this is the entropy driver, then typing about 2 lines of shit > >> will unlock it. > > > > Neither ^T or typing does anything. I'll have to do some surgery from another > > boot disk to find out what's what. Uk. > > Erm, just so you know. The 4100 here at WC doesn't even make it past the SCSI > probe due to interrupt issues. If it's running really up to date current, > try changing sys/alpha/include/mutex.h to define mtx_intr_enable() to nothing, > which will hackishly run ithreads with a raised IPL and might solve the problem > if its an interrupt storm you are seeing. Hmm. Well, it *was* working a couple of days ago :-).... -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 1:20: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.targetnet.com (smtp.targetnet.com [205.150.0.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE51937B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:19:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@targetnet.com) Received: from james by smtp.targetnet.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14bfXT-000Ehl-00 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 04:19:51 -0500 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 04:19:51 -0500 From: James FitzGibbon To: current@freebsd.org Subject: sysinstall option for softupdates Message-ID: <20010310041951.G62392@targetnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Targetnet.com Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are there any issues/plans to let users enable softupdates from inside of sysinstall ? Softupdates are already enabled in the GENERIC kernel, but to turn them on you have to run tunefs with the filesystem unmounted. Too often I find myself doing an onsite install then doing all my customization remotely only to realize that I've forgotten to enable softupdates. My machines all run in securelevel 3, so the only fix I've come up with is to horribly twist the purpose of the rc.diskless scripts, as they are the only 'hooks' I've found in /etc/rc that can be executed before the r/w mounts take place. It works, but damn is it ugly. If this is a good idea[tm], this could go either in the label editor (probably more trouble than it's worth, as there is no code in sysinstall to manipulate superblocks.) There is also the issue of cramping in the label editor screen. What might make more sense is to have this on the Configuration menu, and provide a dialog-driven interface to executing tunefs. There might be issues surrounding the dismount/remount sequence that would be required here. A more extensible option would be to add a facility to /etc/rc to execute user scripts from a directory on the root partition upon boot. This technique could then be applied to other purposes, such as this hack I use for installing a new kernel on a remote box running at securelevel 3: -- START -- #!/bin/sh # cd /sys/compile/MYKERNEL if [ -x kernel ] then /usr/bin/make install /bin/rm /etc/rc.local /sbin/reboot fi --- END --- I install this script as /etc/rc.local.kerninst and hardlink it to /etc/rc.local in lieu of running 'make installkernel' or 'make install' (if I'm using the old kernel build method.) This isn't all that clean because it requires two reboots for a kernel install, and the reboot happens after everything has been brought up (but just before kern.securelevel gets bumped.) Again, it works but it's ugly. Having a facility for running these 'early' config scripts, optimally with a way of deleting them or flagging them as having been run already would be of great help. Thoughts ? -- j. James FitzGibbon james@targetnet.com Targetnet.com Inc. Voice/Fax +1 416 306-0466/0452 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 7: 4:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9329037B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 07:04:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f2AF43B90794 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org.AVP; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:04:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f2AF43m90554 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:04:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2AF3pj54376 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:03:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:03:51 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: libg2c missing? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got two machines, called say master and slave. Master got the sources, and I do a cvsup and make world almost every night. Occationally (once a month or so, when current is in a not too bad shape) I mount master:/usr/src and master:/usr/obj on slave, and do an installworld. Now it fails in gnu/lib/libg2c: install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libg2c.a /usr/lib install: libg2c.a: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 The typescript for make world on master doesn't mention libg2c. I've got libg2c.a dated feb 8 and libg2c.so.1 dated feb 4 on master, while the other libs are from tonights buildworld. I copied /usr/lib/libg2c* from master to slave, but that didn't do any difference. So the question is: Why will this buildworld, which can installworld on master, not installworld on slave, which is not that much older? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 10: 5:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from quake.spiderirod.kom.pl (quake.spiderirod.kom.pl [212.182.117.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A53537B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:05:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spider@quake.spiderirod.kom.pl) Received: from localhost (spider@localhost) by quake.spiderirod.kom.pl (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2AI8QS04711 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:08:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from spider@quake.spiderirod.kom.pl) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:08:25 +0100 (CET) From: Spider Wielki To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Errata Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG PLIS ERRATA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 10: 9:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8890D37B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:09:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26850 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:09:44 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:09:41 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: current@freebsd.org Subject: update on the Grim Reaper... In-Reply-To: <200103101345.f2ADjSX19132@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I found all of the knobs that turn off harvesting, and with those off, my alpha 4100 boots again w/o hanging. So- there are knobs (but nothing in UPDATING warned me to turn them off in order to boot again). I still think this should be in a separate rc file, but no matter. The item that causes the alpha to hang on boot is interrupt harvesting. Has anyone else running non-ia32 run into problems? -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 10:25:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cs.utep.edu (mail.cs.utep.edu [129.108.5.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482A837B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:25:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from janb@cs.utep.edu) Received: from gecko (gecko [129.108.5.51]) by cs.utep.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2AIPpu04113 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:25:51 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:25:53 -0700 (MST) From: X-Sender: To: Subject: SSLeay refuses to build. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to make the port p5-Net-SSLeay-1.05 (as a dependency for webmin). The make stops and askes for the location of OpenSSL. A 'where openssl' results in '/usr/bin/openssl'. The SSLeay build will not accept /usr/bin, /usr/bin/, or /usr/bin/openssl . It always reponds with : "Could not find OpenSSL in /usr/bin" or whatever other Directory I type. Can someone please shed some light on the issue? Thanks, JAn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 10:51:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C121F37B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:51:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f2AIpE610130; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:51:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:51:14 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: janb@cs.utep.edu Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SSLeay refuses to build. Message-ID: <20010310105114.D18351@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from janb@cs.utep.edu on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 11:25:53AM -0700 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * janb@cs.utep.edu [010310 10:26] wrote: > I am trying to make the port p5-Net-SSLeay-1.05 (as a dependency for > webmin). The make stops and askes for the location of OpenSSL. A 'where > openssl' results in '/usr/bin/openssl'. The SSLeay build will not accept > /usr/bin, /usr/bin/, or /usr/bin/openssl . It always reponds with : > "Could not find OpenSSL in /usr/bin" or whatever other Directory I type. > Can someone please shed some light on the issue? Did you try '/usr' ? :) -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 11:52:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB55037B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:52:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2AJpsH64223; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:51:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: james@targetnet.com Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates In-Reply-To: <20010310041951.G62392@targetnet.com> References: <20010310041951.G62392@targetnet.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010310115154M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:51:54 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 20 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: James FitzGibbon Subject: sysinstall option for softupdates Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 04:19:51 -0500 > Are there any issues/plans to let users enable softupdates from inside of > sysinstall ? No "plans", but it's certainly something which could be done. > If this is a good idea[tm], this could go either in the label editor I think this is really the only place to do it, just to ease confusion. You also wouldn't need to put superblock-frobbing code into sysinstall, just bundle tunefs into the mfsroot. Hmmmm. OK, you intrigued me enough by this that I just went ahead and did it in -current. :) Let me know what you think, come tomorrow's snapshot. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 11:54:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C58637B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:54:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2AJsZ311964 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:54:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:54:35 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to process your message In-Reply-To: <984145674.24.34888.l9@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: X-All-Your-Base: are belong to us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 9 Mar 2001, Yahoo!Groups wrote: > We are unable to process the message from > to . I used my "contacts" to "fix" this list. Don't worry about it. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 13:54:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.targetnet.com (smtp.targetnet.com [205.150.0.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA8A37B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:54:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@targetnet.com) Received: from james by smtp.targetnet.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14brIw-000Jss-00; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:53:38 -0500 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:53:38 -0500 From: James FitzGibbon To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates Message-ID: <20010310165338.B75132@targetnet.com> References: <20010310041951.G62392@targetnet.com> <20010310115154M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010310115154M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 11:51:54AM -0800 Organization: Targetnet.com Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Jordan Hubbard (jkh@osd.bsdi.com) [010310 14:52]: > Hmmmm. OK, you intrigued me enough by this that I just went ahead and > did it in -current. :) Let me know what you think, come tomorrow's > snapshot. And that, in a nutshell, is why I love FreeBSD.... I've got a box that is in desperate need of an upgrade from 3.x.. I'll give it a shot tommorrow and report back. Thanks. -- j. James FitzGibbon james@targetnet.com Targetnet.com Inc. Voice/Fax +1 416 306-0466/0452 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 15:39:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cs.utep.edu (mail.cs.utep.edu [129.108.5.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DEAA37B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:39:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from janb@cs.utep.edu) Received: from gecko (gecko [129.108.5.51]) by cs.utep.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2ANdCu05123; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:39:12 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:39:14 -0700 (MST) From: X-Sender: To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Subject: Re: SSLeay refuses to build. In-Reply-To: <20010310105114.D18351@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No. I will try this right now. I still fail to see why the port would not find the thing. A simple 'where' statement does the trick... I any case, thanks for the help JAn On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * janb@cs.utep.edu [010310 10:26] wrote: > > I am trying to make the port p5-Net-SSLeay-1.05 (as a dependency for > > webmin). The make stops and askes for the location of OpenSSL. A 'where > > openssl' results in '/usr/bin/openssl'. The SSLeay build will not accept > > /usr/bin, /usr/bin/, or /usr/bin/openssl . It always reponds with : > > "Could not find OpenSSL in /usr/bin" or whatever other Directory I type. > > Can someone please shed some light on the issue? > > Did you try '/usr' ? :) > > -- > -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 15:44: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C3037B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:43:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f2ANhq518426; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:43:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:43:52 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates Message-ID: <20010310154352.C18227@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010310041951.G62392@targetnet.com> <20010310115154M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010310115154M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 11:51:54AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 11:51:54AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > I think this is really the only place to do it, just to ease > confusion. You also wouldn't need to put superblock-frobbing code > into sysinstall, just bundle tunefs into the mfsroot. Why not add the softupdates option to newfs? Since newfs contains every tunefs option other than softupdates, I consider it a bug that newfs didn't gain that functionality when it was added to tunefs. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 16: 0:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05CC37B718; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:00:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFCD3E09; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:00:13 -0800 (PST) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Jordan Hubbard , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates In-Reply-To: <20010310154352.C18227@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on "Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:43:52 -0800" Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:00:13 -0800 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010311000013.6EFCD3E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "David O'Brien" writes: > Why not add the softupdates option to newfs? Since newfs contains every > tunefs option other than softupdates, I consider it a bug that newfs > didn't gain that functionality when it was added to tunefs. I wrote a patch to do this some time back. Stefan Esser pointed out that this would be made redundant when (if?) softupdates is turned into a mount option. According to him, mckusick agreed with his point of view on this matter. You can find his e-mail to -audit about this here: http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=0+0+archive/2001/freebsd-audit/20010218.freebsd-audit You can find my patch to newfs at http://www.unixfreak.org/~dima/home/newfs-softdep.diff. I suppose it may be a worthwhile addition until se's patch goes in. Regards Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 16: 0:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2718637B71D for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:00:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f2B00VX18749; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:00:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:00:30 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it... Message-ID: <20010310160030.D18227@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 01:39:58PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 01:39:58PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Erm, just so you know. The 4100 here at WC doesn't even make it past > > the SCSI probe due to interrupt issues. > > Hmm. Well, it *was* working a couple of days ago :-).... Uh, actually _your_ 4100 is the only I've ever known to work on post-SMPng. The WC 4100 has *never* worked on post SMPng. I don't believe I've heard that DFR's runs SMPng either. I guess I should get a `dd' of your system disk, or get you a console on the WC box. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 16: 5: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECE237B718; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:05:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28131; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:05:07 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:05:04 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "David O'Brien" Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it... In-Reply-To: <20010310160030.D18227@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 01:39:58PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > Erm, just so you know. The 4100 here at WC doesn't even make it past > > > the SCSI probe due to interrupt issues. > > > > Hmm. Well, it *was* working a couple of days ago :-).... > > Uh, actually _your_ 4100 is the only I've ever known to work on > post-SMPng. The WC 4100 has *never* worked on post SMPng. I don't > believe I've heard that DFR's runs SMPng either. That's strange. After each time I've gotten this working again (and it now works on the 4100 here *AND* the ones at NASA/Ames) I've sent mail saying "Try yours again" to you! I thougt you *were* working again. > I guess I should get a `dd' of your system disk, or get you a console on > the WC box. Well, since I have *two* working systems- one of which is a four hose configuration, I don't know quite what to say... :-).... I should just bring one of my disks by..... urrmm.. Actually, one system has a DDS tape drive so I'll dd you a root disk image- it'll be da2 so you'll have to shove disks ahead of it or DTRT. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 16:45: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5271637B73E for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:44:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA32286; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:44:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: update on the Grim Reaper... References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 11 Mar 2001 01:44:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: Matthew Jacob's message of "Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:09:41 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Jacob writes: > The item that causes the alpha to hang on boot is interrupt harvesting. Has > anyone else running non-ia32 run into problems? If you're running the "old" harvesting code (pre-Rijndael, i.e. older than about a day or so), it's seriously broken - it doesn't really harvest entropy at all, and I suspect it of smashing the stack. Try again with the new code. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 16:48:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14B137B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:48:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28285; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:48:33 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:48:30 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: update on the Grim Reaper... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11 Mar 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Matthew Jacob writes: > > The item that causes the alpha to hang on boot is interrupt harvesting. Has > > anyone else running non-ia32 run into problems? > > If you're running the "old" harvesting code (pre-Rijndael, i.e. older > than about a day or so), it's seriously broken - it doesn't really > harvest entropy at all, and I suspect it of smashing the stack. Try > again with the new code. I might just have missed this window- with cvsup, who knows..... I'll try again. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 17:12:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E374037B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:12:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28368 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:12:45 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:12:42 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: current@freebsd.org Subject: how's vinum these days with DEVFS? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (top of tree within the last day or so): Things seem *almost* okay, but: nellie.feral.com > root vinum vinum -> stripe -v /dev/da3a /dev/da4a /dev/da5a /dev/da6a /dev/da7a /dev/da8a /dev/da9a /dev/da10a /dev/da11a /dev/da12a drive vinumdrive0 device /dev/da3a drive vinumdrive1 device /dev/da4a drive vinumdrive2 device /dev/da5a drive vinumdrive3 device /dev/da6a drive vinumdrive4 device /dev/da7a drive vinumdrive5 device /dev/da8a drive vinumdrive6 device /dev/da9a drive vinumdrive7 device /dev/da10a drive vinumdrive8 device /dev/da11a drive vinumdrive9 device /dev/da12a volume vinum0 plex name vinum0.p0 org striped 256k sd name vinum0.p0.s0 drive vinumdrive0 size 17663964b sd name vinum0.p0.s1 drive vinumdrive1 size 17663964b sd name vinum0.p0.s2 drive vinumdrive2 size 17663964b sd name vinum0.p0.s3 drive vinumdrive3 size 17663964b sd name vinum0.p0.s4 drive vinumdrive4 size 17663964b sd name vinum0.p0.s5 drive vinumdrive5 size 17663964b sd name vinum0.p0.s6 drive vinumdrive6 size 17663964b sd name vinum0.p0.s7 drive vinumdrive7 size 17663964b sd name vinum0.p0.s8 drive vinumdrive8 size 17663964b sd name vinum0.p0.s9 drive vinumdrive9 size 17663964b Can't get config for plex 0: Invalid argument and at the console: WARNING: Driver mistake: repeat make_dev("vinum/control") Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: drive vinumdrive0 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: drive vinumdrive1 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: drive vinumdrive2 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: drive vinumdrive3 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: drive vinumdrive4 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: drive vinumdrive5 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: drive vinumdrive6 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: drive vinumdrive7 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: drive vinumdrive8 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: drive vinumdrive9 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: removing 4760 blocks of partial stripe at the end of vinum0.p0 Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: vinum0.p0.s0 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: vinum0.p0.s1 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: vinum0.p0.s2 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: vinum0.p0.s3 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: vinum0.p0.s4 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: vinum0.p0.s5 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: vinum0.p0.s6 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: vinum0.p0.s7 is up Mar 10 17:09:56 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: vinum0.p0.s8 is up Mar 10 17:09:57 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: vinum0.p0.s9 is up Mar 10 17:09:57 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: vinum0.p0 is up Mar 10 17:09:57 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinum: vinum0 is up Mar 10 17:09:57 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinumioctl: invalid ioctl from process 682 (vinum): c1384644 But things seem to actually kind of work..... *shudder* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 17:21:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D5637B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:21:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5D476A90D; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:51:47 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:51:47 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Matthew Jacob Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS? Message-ID: <20010311115147.L57126@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:12:42PM -0800 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, 10 March 2001 at 17:12:42 -0800, Matt Jacob wrote: > (top of tree within the last day or so): > > Things seem *almost* okay, but: > > nellie.feral.com > root vinum > vinum -> stripe -v /dev/da3a /dev/da4a /dev/da5a /dev/da6a /dev/da7a /dev/da8a > /dev/da9a /dev/da10a /dev/da11a /dev/da12a > drive vinumdrive0 device /dev/da3a > > Can't get config for plex 0: Invalid argument > > and at the console: > > WARNING: Driver mistake: repeat make_dev("vinum/control") Hmm. > Mar 10 17:09:57 nellie /boot/kernel/kernel: vinumioctl: invalid ioctl from process 682 (vinum): c1384644 This looks like a mismatch between the plex size in the userland and kernel code. Did you rebuild vinum(8)? Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 18:48: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAE837B71A; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:48:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2B2lCH65870; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:47:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates In-Reply-To: <20010310154352.C18227@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20010310041951.G62392@targetnet.com> <20010310115154M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010310154352.C18227@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010310184712H.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:47:12 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 11 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:43:52 -0800 > Why not add the softupdates option to newfs? Since newfs contains every > tunefs option other than softupdates, I consider it a bug that newfs > didn't gain that functionality when it was added to tunefs. I've no objection, but that's a bigger bikeshed. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 21: 6:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16CF37B719; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:06:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from mobile.wemm.org (mobile.wemm.org [10.0.0.5]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2B56Lp25717; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:06:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mobile.wemm.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2B56Kh24437; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:06:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <200103110506.f2B56Kh24437@mobile.wemm.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates In-Reply-To: <20010310184712H.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:06:20 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan Hubbard wrote: > From: "David O'Brien" > Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:43:52 -0800 > > > Why not add the softupdates option to newfs? Since newfs contains every > > tunefs option other than softupdates, I consider it a bug that newfs > > didn't gain that functionality when it was added to tunefs. > > I've no objection, but that's a bigger bikeshed. :) Kirk has given a thumbs up to change the tunefs option to a mount option.. There are patches around that already do this and have been "blessed" by Kirk. I seem to recall Paul Saab has a set for both -current and -stable. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 21:21: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361B937B718; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:21:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f2B5KuT06335; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:20:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:20:56 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Peter Wemm Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates Message-ID: <20010310212056.A6292@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010310184712H.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <200103110506.f2B56Kh24437@mobile.wemm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103110506.f2B56Kh24437@mobile.wemm.org>; from peter@netplex.com.au on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:20PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:20PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > I seem to recall Paul Saab has a set for both -current and -stable. Someone else also just posted a URL to a set of patches. Is Paul going to commit his, or can I take this on and commit the ones posted? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 21:51:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1277537B736; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:51:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from spike.unixfreak.org (spike [192.168.2.4]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C173E1F; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:51:46 -0800 (PST) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Peter Wemm , current@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates In-Reply-To: <20010310212056.A6292@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on "Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:20:56 -0800" Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:51:46 -0800 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010311055146.97C173E1F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "David O'Brien" writes: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:20PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > > I seem to recall Paul Saab has a set for both -current and -stable. > > Someone else also just posted a URL to a set of patches. > Is Paul going to commit his, or can I take this on and commit the ones > posted? Are you talking about se's patches to make softdep a mount option, or my newfs patch to optionally enable softdep during newfs? The former isn't something you can just drop in. You'd have to decide if softdep should be the default. If softdep is made the default, then those who don't use it for a reason have to add "nosoftdep" to the appropriate lines in /etc/fstab. If softdep isn't made the default, then those who do use softdep have to add "softdep" to the appropriate lines to /etc/fstab. Either way, it isn't something that can silently (i.e., without a heads up or something like that) go in. AFAIK there's no problem with the latter (my newfs patch) except that it will be made obsolete when the former goes in. Regards Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 22:11:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D42237B719; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:11:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from mobile.wemm.org (mobile.wemm.org [10.0.0.5]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2B6BOp25979; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:11:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mobile.wemm.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2B6BNh25090; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:11:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <200103110611.f2B6BNh25090@mobile.wemm.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates In-Reply-To: <20010311055146.97C173E1F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:11:23 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dima Dorfman wrote: > "David O'Brien" writes: > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:20PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > I seem to recall Paul Saab has a set for both -current and -stable. > > > > Someone else also just posted a URL to a set of patches. > > Is Paul going to commit his, or can I take this on and commit the ones > > posted? > > Are you talking about se's patches to make softdep a mount option, or > my newfs patch to optionally enable softdep during newfs? The former > isn't something you can just drop in. You'd have to decide if softdep > should be the default. If softdep is made the default, then those who > don't use it for a reason have to add "nosoftdep" to the appropriate > lines in /etc/fstab. If softdep isn't made the default, then those > who do use softdep have to add "softdep" to the appropriate lines to > /etc/fstab. Either way, it isn't something that can silently (i.e., > without a heads up or something like that) go in. AFAIK there's no > problem with the latter (my newfs patch) except that it will be made > obsolete when the former goes in. The version of the patch for -current uses the softdep mount option only. If you remove the mount option, you dont get softupdates. Paul tweaked it to be backwards compatable for -stable so that it didn't require people to update their fstab. You can still use the softdep option in the mount flag to enable softupdates, but existing file systems would remain in softdep mode if they had been activated by tunefs in the past. IMHO, that caters for POLA enough that we can use it. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 22:32:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C46637B719; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:32:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBA13E09; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:32:23 -0800 (PST) To: Peter Wemm Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates In-Reply-To: <200103110611.f2B6BNh25090@mobile.wemm.org>; from peter@netplex.com.au on "Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:11:23 -0800" Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:32:23 -0800 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010311063223.CBBA13E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Wemm writes: > The version of the patch for -current uses the softdep mount option only. > If you remove the mount option, you dont get softupdates. In this case, it might be better to just turn it on by default and let those who don't want it somewhere use "nosoftdep"; this is what mckusick originally agreed to. Here's his e-mail on the subject: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=404219+417718+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/freebsd-arch/20000702.freebsd-arch Otherwise, the backwards-compatible stuff for -stable sounds good. Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 22:48:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail-100baset.rpi.edu [128.113.26.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CC237B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:48:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA102930; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:48:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010310115154M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> References: <20010310041951.G62392@targetnet.com> <20010310115154M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:48:41 -0500 To: Jordan Hubbard , james@targetnet.com From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:51 AM -0800 3/10/01, Jordan Hubbard wrote: >Hmmmm. OK, you intrigued me enough by this that I just went >ahead and did it in -current. :) Let me know what you think, >come tomorrow's snapshot. Ooo. Might this be MFC-able before 4.3 goes out the door? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 10 22:57:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228D637B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:57:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f2B6vlR13789; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:57:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:57:43 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Dima Dorfman Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates Message-ID: <20010310225742.A13760@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010310212056.A6292@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010311055146.97C173E1F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010311055146.97C173E1F@bazooka.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:51:46PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:51:46PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Are you talking about se's patches to make softdep a mount option, yes > The former isn't something you can just drop in. You'd have to decide > if softdep should be the default. It defaults to what tunefs sets it to -- POLA. > If softdep isn't made the default, then those who do use softdep have > to add "softdep" to the appropriate lines to /etc/fstab. From my understanding of the last discussion on this, both methods can live side-by-side -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message