From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 1:42:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.de (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C19037B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:42:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Stefan.Carstens@t-online.de) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1590o0-0006ul-05; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:42:44 +0200 Received: from carstensbox (520075190812-0001@[217.85.164.10]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1590nz-0cpkESC; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:42:43 +0200 Message-ID: <001001c0f189$5c5baf60$0100a8c0@carstensbox> From: Stefan.Carstens@t-online.de (Stefan Carstens) To: Subject: Create bootable CD Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:43:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F19A.1F9E2790" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Sender: 520075190812-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F19A.1F9E2790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, there. I've downloaded the latest snapshot from FreeBSD-current and I'd like to install it now, to do some tests. The boot-floppies work fine, but I would like to create a bootable CD, because I have some mashines to install on. Would be nice if someone could point me into the right direction. Thanks in advance, Stefan Carstens ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F19A.1F9E2790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, there.
I've downloaded the latest snapshot = from=20 FreeBSD-current
and I'd like to install it now, to do = some=20 tests.
The boot-floppies work fine, but I = would like to=20 create a
bootable CD, because I have some = mashines to=20 install on.
Would be nice if someone could point me = into the=20 right
direction.
Thanks in advance,
Stefan = Carstens
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F19A.1F9E2790-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 1:50:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.franken.de (elvis.franken.de [193.175.24.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D0337B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:50:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tanis@gaspode.franken.de) Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1590v7-0005PD-00; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:50:06 +0200 Received: from gaspode.franken.de (lengfeld.core.main.franken.de [193.141.110.4]) by karnickel.franken.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5A8lUb89103; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:47:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tanis@gaspode.franken.de) Received: (from tanis@localhost) by gaspode.franken.de (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5A8lTA01202; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:47:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tanis) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:47:29 +0200 From: German Tischler To: Stefan Carstens Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Create bootable CD Message-ID: <20010610104729.A1160@gaspode.franken.de> References: <001001c0f189$5c5baf60$0100a8c0@carstensbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5-current-20010403i In-Reply-To: <001001c0f189$5c5baf60$0100a8c0@carstensbox>; from Stefan.Carstens@t-online.de on Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 10:43:02AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 10:43:02AM +0200, Stefan Carstens wrote: > Hi, there. > I've downloaded the latest snapshot from FreeBSD-current > and I'd like to install it now, to do some tests. > The boot-floppies work fine, but I would like to create a > bootable CD, because I have some mashines to install on. > Would be nice if someone could point me into the right > direction. Use the "-b" option of mkisofs. --gt --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: UX9DSMN43+ZxJ/mO3/PoSg2PcRdmgxCY iQEVAwUBOyM0IL7hO6NLB/FvAQGkfwf9G7LKWZBZ+f5ZXOJHU3fuoI/4hsdvqjr7 QJPLIiLRuE62Asi/DmH6R9iFRhvqasv/ca4zIxTLKm36KbJzrO2U1KywgN2V60kn qcYwFW90cSQNlLN1n2O0u/Ns9/zmhGKSHP1FInHw6bmzGuNh84glbP/kJ9M0gPUi 0VkS9hw3AxPIhMBcE06vPtSQowrA78D/xvX2XjiaGDZ4DVL4dyuCyHN0a/0XRP0t Q8UXjvYaoqSyu6cQiR4BMIfBAc3XcZKtdpyp6P65lmRAfWmEqZj1InKa04jyctxI ln+Zr4ib9zu2YyQzNiqa8pDTj3/yMgLjLlY7whJhUruapN/7bq61HQ== =kgSP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 5:14:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98FA37B403; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 05:14:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id PFM07863; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:14:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5ABrNR00795; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:53:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:53:22 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Bruce Evans Cc: Maxim Sobolev , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Terminal line discipline is broken [sorta] Message-ID: <20010610145322.A461@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <3B1E4979.F7D02680@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from bde@zeta.org.au on Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 12:04:10PM +1000 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 12:04:10, bde (Bruce Evans) wrote about "Re: Terminal line discipline is broken [sorta]": > This may be a bug in tcsh. Do you really think that shell should not modify signal handling policy which he obtained as legacy from login? And application which resets them to appropriate position is buggy? > > It is very strange, but control keys [^C,^Z etc] no longer work (nop) > > in the /bin/sh and bash2 after today's build/installworld. I see this > > misbehaviour on two machines. > PAM now blocks keyboard signals when reading the password, and usually > forgets to unblock them. I use the workaround of backing out the broken > code (rev.1.4 of /usr/src/contrib/libpam/libpam_misc/misc_conv.c). > > Even more strange that /bin/tcsh doesn't > > have this problem. My ktracing of bash (2.04) shows that it isn't really set procmask to own values, but uses legacy value. Maybe I'm wrong, but this seems that sh & bash are buggy, not tcsh. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 5:32:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F22437B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 05:32:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1594OH-0003pB-00; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:32:25 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5ABOfL01275; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:24:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:24:41 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: German Tischler Cc: Stefan Carstens , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Create bootable CD Message-ID: <20010610132441.C1205@freebie.demon.nl> References: <001001c0f189$5c5baf60$0100a8c0@carstensbox> <20010610104729.A1160@gaspode.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010610104729.A1160@gaspode.franken.de>; from tanis@gaspode.franken.de on Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 10:47:29AM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 10:47:29AM +0200, German Tischler wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 10:43:02AM +0200, Stefan Carstens wrote: > > Hi, there. > > I've downloaded the latest snapshot from FreeBSD-current > > and I'd like to install it now, to do some tests. > > The boot-floppies work fine, but I would like to create a > > bootable CD, because I have some mashines to install on. > > Would be nice if someone could point me into the right > > direction. > > Use the "-b" option of mkisofs. And see: /usr/share/examples/worm/makecdfs.sh -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/[alpha,x86] http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 5:39: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.dialup.ru (hermes.dialup.ru [194.87.16.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E32E37B407 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 05:38:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@hermes.dialup.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by hermes.dialup.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5ACcse01177 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:38:54 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:38:53 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization Message-ID: <20010610163853.A1166@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As discussed recently in i18n, we rename our locale names to make them X11, other *BSD and number of commercial Unices compatible. During the transition commit period some locales or programms may not sense locale, but after all things will be done, old names becomes aliases to new names and will work as before. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 6:24: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from EnContacto.Net (adsl-63-205-16-205.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.205.16.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A905437B401; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 06:24:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by EnContacto.Net (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5ADNta60460; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 06:23:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) From: Edwin Culp Received: from 63.205.16.202 ( [63.205.16.202]) as user eculp@encontacto.net by Mail.SavvyWorld.Net with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 06:23:51 -0700 Message-ID: <992179431.3b2374e7ab8a8@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 06:23:51 -0700 To: Warner Losh Cc: Brian Somers , Julian Elischer , Mike Smith , Seth Kingsley , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCCARD and -current References: <200106091315.f59DFPW15949@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <200106100140.f5A1egl17676@billy-club.village.org> In-Reply-To: <200106100140.f5A1egl17676@billy-club.village.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.7-cvs X-Originating-IP: 63.205.16.202 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I also had to add options from NEWCARD to my kern cofiguration file. That is why I couldn't get it to work with my GENERIC based configuration. I haven't seen that documented, but it worked for me after 3 days of suffering. ed Quoting Warner Losh : > In message <200106091315.f59DFPW15949@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Brian Somers > writes: > : With a ? instead of the 9 on the config line, I got an irq resource > : allocation failure. Go figure ! > > Add -I to pccardd_flags. > > warner > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn. --Alvin Toffler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 7: 3:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.de (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFDA37B407 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:03:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Stefan.Carstens@t-online.de) Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1595oe-0003rD-01; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:03:44 +0200 Received: from carstensbox (520075190812-0001@[217.85.175.120]) by fwd04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1595oO-0hnRxYC; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:03:28 +0200 Message-ID: <002101c0f1b6$2b69f4c0$0100a8c0@carstensbox> From: Stefan.Carstens@t-online.de (Stefan Carstens) To: "FreeBSD Current" Subject: Mirror ? Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:03:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C0F1C6.EE6DDD50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Sender: 520075190812-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C0F1C6.EE6DDD50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are there mirrors of current.freebsd.org available ? ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C0F1C6.EE6DDD50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Are there mirrors of = current.freebsd.org available=20 ?
 
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C0F1C6.EE6DDD50-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 8:37:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from kalaid.f2f.com.ua (kalaid.f2f.com.ua [62.149.0.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9296D37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:37:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.uic-in.net (root@[212.35.189.4]) by kalaid.f2f.com.ua (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5AFco181464; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:38:50 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from notebook.vega.com (das0-l16.uic-in.net [212.35.189.143]) by mail.uic-in.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5AFavo33433; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:37:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:37:04 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <200106101537.f5AFavo33433@mail.uic-in.net> To: ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.org From: Maxim Sobolev Subject: Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization X-Mailer: Pygmy (v0.5.9) In-Reply-To: <20010610163853.A1166@nagual.pp.ru> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:38:53 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > As discussed recently in i18n, we rename our locale names to make them > X11, other *BSD and number of commercial Unices compatible. > > During the transition commit period some locales or programms may not > sense locale, but after all things will be done, old names becomes aliases > to new names and will work as before. Please post a HEADS UP when you are done, so we all be notified that the world is in the safe state again. Thank you! -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 9:36:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90FA37B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:36:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5AGZgf30742; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:35:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:35:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic: ufs_extattr_uepm_destroy: not initialized In-Reply-To: <200106092219.f59MJNI85937@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Joerg Wunsch wrote: > Joerg Wunsch wrote: > > > It /only/ happens after a "mount -a", not after just mounting /tmp > > only. No idea why, the only `obscure' filesystems i've got are procfs > > and portalfs. > > portalfs indeed seems to be the culprit for leaving an unreferenced file > in /tmp. However, the panic for forcibly umounting /tmp then clearly > belongs to the extattr code. Removed the option from my config again (i > just wanted to give ACLs a try only anyway), and now i'm living without > that panic again. Thomas Moestl recently committed some fixes to the EA code, and may have a couple more in the pipeline that address these problems. Out of curiosity, does your /tmp actually have EA's started on it, or is it just the kernel option? Are you using MFS or ext2fs at all? (I've only recently started recovering from moving, so I'm fairly behind on -CURRENT e-mail) Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 11:43:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B4337B401; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:43:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5AIhE649430; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:43:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.11.2/8.8.3) with ESMTP id f5AIkSl21015; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:46:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200106101846.f5AIkSl21015@billy-club.village.org> To: Edwin Culp Subject: Re: PCCARD and -current Cc: Brian Somers , Julian Elischer , Mike Smith , Seth Kingsley , current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jun 2001 06:23:51 PDT." <992179431.3b2374e7ab8a8@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> References: <992179431.3b2374e7ab8a8@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> <200106091315.f59DFPW15949@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <200106100140.f5A1egl17676@billy-club.village.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:46:28 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <992179431.3b2374e7ab8a8@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> Edwin Culp writes: : I also had to add options from NEWCARD to my kern cofiguration file. : That is why I couldn't get it to work with my GENERIC based configuration. : I haven't seen that documented, but it worked for me after 3 days of : suffering. You shouldn't have had to do that. which ones were they, and are you still running pccard (classic) aka OLDCARD? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 12:10:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F4437B405 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5AJ8uO16414; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: Stefan.Carstens@t-online.de Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mirror ? In-Reply-To: <002101c0f1b6$2b69f4c0$0100a8c0@carstensbox> References: <002101c0f1b6$2b69f4c0$0100a8c0@carstensbox> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010610120856E.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:08:56 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 10 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not to my knowledge, though anyone is free to create one. - Jordan From: Stefan.Carstens@t-online.de (Stefan Carstens) Subject: Mirror ? Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:03:47 +0200 > Are there mirrors of current.freebsd.org available ? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 12:11:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ada.eu.org (marvin.enst.fr [137.194.161.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A114737B403; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:11:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@inf.enst.fr) Received: by ada.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 7AD8F1907F; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:11:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by trillian.rfc1149.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D7FE8BEA7; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:10:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Draft-From: ("mail.list.freebsd.current" 20) To: Warner Losh Cc: Edwin Culp , Brian Somers , Julian Elischer , Mike Smith , Seth Kingsley , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCCARD and -current References: <992179431.3b2374e7ab8a8@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> <200106091315.f59DFPW15949@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <200106100140.f5A1egl17676@billy-club.village.org> <200106101846.f5AIkSl21015@billy-club.village.org> Date: 10 Jun 2001 21:10:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200106101846.f5AIkSl21015@billy-club.village.org> (Warner Losh's message of "Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:46:28 -0600") Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.1 (Channel Islands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Samuel Tardieu Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications Reply-To: Samuel Tardieu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-WWW: http://www.rfc1149.net/sam X-Mail-Processing: Sam's procmail tools X-ICQ: 21547599 X-Sam-Laptop: yes Message-Id: <2001-06-10-21-10-52+trackit+sam@inf.enst.fr> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Warner" == Warner Losh writes: Warner> You shouldn't have had to do that. which ones were they, and Warner> are you still running pccard (classic) aka OLDCARD? Warner, I think that a short HOWTO-UPGRADE would benefit to everyone. For example, should I: - keep my old kernel settings (using the glue compatibility layer) or use the new one? (copied from NEWCARD) - make sure that my hints file matches the interrupt of my pcic device? (9 in my case, shared with all the other PCI stuff) - should I still be running pccardd if I choose the new settings? (pccardd reports that no PCCARD can be found in my case) - should I force the IRQ? (if I do that, while keeping the old settings (as pccardd won't start with the new ones albeit it's a new pccardd), then I get a panic using "-I -i 9") Thanks. Sam -- Samuel Tardieu -- sam@inf.enst.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 12:23: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from EnContacto.Net (adsl-63-205-16-205.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.205.16.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C8F37B401; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:22:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by EnContacto.Net (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5AJMgW01876; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:22:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) From: Edwin Culp Received: from 63.205.16.202 ( [63.205.16.202]) as user eculp@encontacto.net by Mail.SavvyWorld.Net with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:22:42 -0700 Message-ID: <992200962.3b23c9023f769@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:22:42 -0700 To: Warner Losh Cc: Brian Somers , Julian Elischer , Mike Smith , Seth Kingsley , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCCARD and -current References: <992179431.3b2374e7ab8a8@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> <200106091315.f59DFPW15949@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <200106100140.f5A1egl17676@billy-club.village.org> <200106101846.f5AIkSl21015@billy-club.village.org> In-Reply-To: <200106101846.f5AIkSl21015@billy-club.village.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.7-cvs X-Originating-IP: 63.205.16.202 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The kernel configuration that I couldn't get to work was basically GENERIC with SCSI, USB commented out and IPFW added. The one that works is the NEWCARD with almost identical but with the following differences only, I think. #device card # pccard bus #device pcic # pcmcia bridge device pccard device cardbus device pccbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge and the -I -i 10 in my case. Generic still has card and pcic and doesn't have pccard, cardbus and pccbb. Those changes seem to have made my old k-6 laptop a very happy camper.:-) The only problem was it took me three days to find a combination that worked. This helps maintain the level of excitement generated by current, that has abounded recently:-) Thanks for the months of work on the integration fo cardbus into current. ed Quoting Warner Losh : > In message <992179431.3b2374e7ab8a8@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> Edwin Culp writes: > : I also had to add options from NEWCARD to my kern cofiguration file. > : That is why I couldn't get it to work with my GENERIC based > configuration. > : I haven't seen that documented, but it worked for me after 3 days of > : suffering. > > You shouldn't have had to do that. which ones were they, and are you > still running pccard (classic) aka OLDCARD? > > Warner > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn. --Alvin Toffler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 12:24:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ada.eu.org (marvin.enst.fr [137.194.161.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE8837B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:24:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@inf.enst.fr) Received: by ada.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 8871F1907F; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:24:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: by trillian.rfc1149.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4A903BEA7; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:23:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:23:24 +0200 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Lockups related to handle_written_filepage Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i From: Samuel Tardieu Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications Reply-To: Samuel Tardieu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-WWW: http://www.rfc1149.net/sam X-Mail-Processing: Sam's procmail tools X-ICQ: 21547599 X-Sam-Laptop: yes Message-Id: <2001-06-10-21-23-25+trackit+sam@inf.enst.fr> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got several lockups with the message: (everything copied by hand, errors come from me) handle_written_filepage active page dep A ddb backtrace gives: scgetc() at scgetc+0x41e sckbdevent() at sckbdevent+0x1c5 atkbd_intr() at atkbd_intr+0x22 atkbd_isa_intr() at atkbd_isa_intr+0x18 ithread_loop() at ithread_loop+0x19f fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x50 fork_exit_trampoline() at fork_exit_trampoline+0x18 (or whas that fork_trampoline()? can't remember) The symptom is that the disk seems to be locked up. I get a shell for a moment, but cannot do anything with the disk. This is with yesterday morning's -CURRENT on my VAIO PCG-Z600NE. Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 14:38:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA6637B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:38:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id XAA19927 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:38:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5ALawu94200; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:36:58 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from j) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:36:58 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200106102136.f5ALawu94200@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: knews 1.0b.1 Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Organization: Private BSD site, Dresden X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E References: <20010610163853.A1166@nagual.pp.ru> <200106101537.f5AFavo33433@mail.uic-in.net> From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Subject: Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization X-Original-Newsgroups: local.freebsd.current To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Please post a HEADS UP when you are done, so we all be > notified that the world is in the safe state again. And, please also post a list of old vs. new names. Not all of us follow the i18n list. Anyway, nice to see that we're going to be compatible to the rest of the world! -- cheers, J"org .-.-. --... ...-- -.. . DL8DTL http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 15: 6: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5C337B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:05:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5AM5qB01481; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:05:53 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:05:49 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization Message-ID: <20010611020547.A1379@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010610163853.A1166@nagual.pp.ru> <200106101537.f5AFavo33433@mail.uic-in.net> <200106102136.f5ALawu94200@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106102136.f5ALawu94200@uriah.heep.sax.de>; from j@uriah.heep.sax.de on Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 11:36:58PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 23:36:58 +0200, Joerg Wunsch wrote: > And, please also post a list of old vs. new names. Not all of us > follow the i18n list. *.ASCII -> *.US-ASCII *.ISO_* -> *.ISO* ja_JP.EUC -> ja_JP.eucJP ko_KR.EUC -> ko_KR.eucKR zh_CN.EUC -> zh_CN.eucCN -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 15:45:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F1537B407; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5AMjXB01963; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:45:34 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:45:29 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: HEADS UP: world is safe (locale names reorganization) Message-ID: <20010611024527.A1874@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010610163853.A1166@nagual.pp.ru> <200106101537.f5AFavo33433@mail.uic-in.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106101537.f5AFavo33433@mail.uic-in.net>; from sobomax@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 06:37:04PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 18:37:04 +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Please post a HEADS UP when you are done, so we all be > notified that the world is in the safe state again. World is safe again, but some renaming work is pending waiting for additional CVS copies will be made. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 16:13:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D0D37B405 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:13:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5AND5V60475; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:13:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200106102313.f5AND5V60475@harmony.village.org> To: Samuel Tardieu Subject: Re: PCCARD and -current Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "10 Jun 2001 21:10:52 +0200." <2001-06-10-21-10-52+trackit+sam@inf.enst.fr> References: <2001-06-10-21-10-52+trackit+sam@inf.enst.fr> <992179431.3b2374e7ab8a8@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> <200106091315.f59DFPW15949@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <200106100140.f5A1egl17676@billy-club.village.org> <200106101846.f5AIkSl21015@billy-club.village.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:13:05 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <2001-06-10-21-10-52+trackit+sam@inf.enst.fr> Samuel Tardieu writes: : I think that a short HOWTO-UPGRADE would benefit to everyone. For The entry in UPDATING should do that. If it is unclear, let me know and I'll update it. : example, should I: : : - keep my old kernel settings (using the glue compatibility layer) : or use the new one? (copied from NEWCARD) Keep old kernel settings, do not use new ones. : - make sure that my hints file matches the interrupt of my pcic : device? (9 in my case, shared with all the other PCI stuff) Hints adjustment is not necessary. Hints are only used for ISA attachment. : - should I still be running pccardd if I choose the new settings? : (pccardd reports that no PCCARD can be found in my case) Use pccardd. If it is reporting no pccard slots found, then either your cardbus bridge isn't being recognized or you are running newcard. : - should I force the IRQ? (if I do that, while keeping the old : settings (as pccardd won't start with the new ones albeit it's a : new pccardd), then I get a panic using "-I -i 9") You shouldn't be getting a panic. If you are seeing a panic, make sure that you have a new pccardd and have rebuilt the kernel. If you get a panic, please report a traceback. In summary: o Use the same config file you used before. o Update pccardd o Add "-I -i 9" to pccardd_flags (if your pcic's irq is 9). o rebuild and reinstall the kernel. o reboot. Send your panics to me. :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 16:18: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58AD37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:18:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5ANGdV60504; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:16:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200106102316.f5ANGdV60504@harmony.village.org> To: Edwin Culp Subject: Re: PCCARD and -current Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:22:42 PDT." <992200962.3b23c9023f769@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> References: <992200962.3b23c9023f769@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> <992179431.3b2374e7ab8a8@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> <200106091315.f59DFPW15949@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <200106100140.f5A1egl17676@billy-club.village.org> <200106101846.f5AIkSl21015@billy-club.village.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:16:39 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <992200962.3b23c9023f769@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> Edwin Culp writes: : The kernel configuration that I couldn't get to work was basically GENERIC with : SCSI, USB commented out and IPFW added. The one that works is the NEWCARD with : almost identical but with the following differences only, I think. : : #device card # pccard bus : #device pcic # pcmcia bridge : device pccard : device cardbus : device pccbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge : : and the -I -i 10 in my case. : : Generic still has card and pcic and doesn't have pccard, cardbus and pccbb. : Those changes seem to have made my old k-6 laptop a very happy camper.:-) : : The only problem was it took me three days to find a combination that worked. : This helps maintain the level of excitement generated by current, that has : abounded recently:-) : : Thanks for the months of work on the integration fo cardbus into current. If you have device pccard rather than card in your kernel, you are running NEWCARD. Also, do you have one slot or two? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 16:56:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.dialup.ru (hermes.dialup.ru [194.87.16.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A59137B403; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:56:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@hermes.dialup.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by hermes.dialup.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5ANuoM20760; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:56:50 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:56:50 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: current@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc Message-ID: <20010611035650.A20707@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please don't commit anything in the areas of subj. until I finish rename to new locale names there. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 17: 9:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A52B37B405 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:09:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA07496; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:09:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: current@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: linprocfs converted to pseudofs From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 11 Jun 2001 02:09:09 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've converted linprocfs to use the pseudofs framework. Unfortunately this means that proc/pid/cmdline and proc/pid/mem are currently disabled as they rely on code from procfs, which hasn't been converted yet. I'll try to remedy this as soon as possible. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 17:18:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from EnContacto.Net (adsl-63-205-16-205.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.205.16.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE7A37B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:18:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by EnContacto.Net (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5B0I9Y03782; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:18:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) From: Edwin Culp Received: from 63.205.16.202 ( [63.205.16.202]) as user eculp@encontacto.net by Mail.SavvyWorld.Net with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:18:09 -0700 Message-ID: <992218689.3b240e41bb987@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:18:09 -0700 To: Warner Losh Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCCARD and -current References: <992200962.3b23c9023f769@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> <992179431.3b2374e7ab8a8@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> <200106091315.f59DFPW15949@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <200106100140.f5A1egl17676@billy-club.village.org> <200106101846.f5AIkSl21015@billy-club.village.org> <200106102316.f5ANGdV60504@harmony.village.org> In-Reply-To: <200106102316.f5ANGdV60504@harmony.village.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.7-cvs X-Originating-IP: 63.205.16.202 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Warner Losh : > > > If you have device pccard rather than card in your kernel, you are > running NEWCARD. I know but I couldn't get it to run with pccardd. I'm going to try again tomorrow although it has been working great:-) > > Also, do you have one slot or two? I have two but am just using one right now although I often use two. Thanks, ed > > Warner > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn. --Alvin Toffler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 19: 7:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D88537B405; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:07:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5B27Qk04547; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:07:26 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:07:25 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc Message-ID: <20010611060725.A4531@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010611035650.A20707@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611035650.A20707@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:56:50AM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:56:50 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > Please don't commit anything in the areas of subj. until I finish rename > to new locale names there. Done. Feel free to commit. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 19:20:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6E737B407 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (kuriyama@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5B2K4f10638 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:20:05 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:20:02 +0900 Message-ID: <7m7kyjoizx.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: "FreeBSD Current" Subject: Re: Mirror ? In-Reply-To: <002101c0f1b6$2b69f4c0$0100a8c0@carstensbox> References: <002101c0f1b6$2b69f4c0$0100a8c0@carstensbox> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:03:57 +0000 (UTC), Stefan Carstens wrote: > Are there mirrors of current.freebsd.org available ? We creates original daily snapshot on current.jp.FreeBSD.org. This is not same as current.FreeBSD.org because timing of CVSup may be different and we don't know what procedures are used on current.FreeBSD.org. If you have an opinion about this service, please mail to buildadm@jp.FreeBSD.org -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 22:27:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE1E37B405; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:27:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5B5RVM26857; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:27:31 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:27:30 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: world is safe (locale names reorganization) Message-ID: <20010611092730.A25488@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010610163853.A1166@nagual.pp.ru> <200106101537.f5AFavo33433@mail.uic-in.net> <20010611024527.A1874@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611024527.A1874@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 02:45:29AM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 02:45:29 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 18:37:04 +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > Please post a HEADS UP when you are done, so we all be > > notified that the world is in the safe state again. > > World is safe again, but some renaming work is pending waiting for > additional CVS copies will be made. Now all planned things are finished. I hope I not miss anything. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 23:15:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp [202.247.6.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE3137B407 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:15:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mihara@prd.fc.nec.co.jp) Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.193]) by TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.3/3.7W01041220) with ESMTP id f5B6Fd014923 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:15:39 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsv4.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.190]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.3/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id f5B6FX811322 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:15:33 +0900 (JST) Received: from athena.prd.fc.nec.co.jp (athena.prd.fc.nec.co.jp [10.32.193.1]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.3/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id f5B6FU308424 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:15:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.prd.fc.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by athena.prd.fc.nec.co.jp (8.11.2/3.7W-00052414) with ESMTP id f5B6FTl34911 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:15:29 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:15:29 +0900 Message-ID: <86zobfbkzi.wl@localhost.prd.fc.nec.co.jp> From: Osamu MIHARA To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: world broken by ipfilter move In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) WEMI/1.13.7 (Shimada) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386-unknown-freebsd4.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by WEMI 1.13.7 - "Shimada") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:06:08 +1000 (EST), Bruce Evans wrote: > Everything thet uses the ipfilter headers is similarly broken. > > This is because I use SHARED=symlinks, and src/include/Makefile doesn't > install the ipfilter headers in this case. Nor could it, since installing > them would spam the source tree. Is this problem fixed? The related problem seem to be caused in stable branch. -- Osamu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 23:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB2637B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id IAA24301; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:49:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5B6PP096808; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:25:25 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from j) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:25:25 +0200 From: Joerg Wunsch To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization Message-ID: <20010611082525.F94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch References: <20010610163853.A1166@nagual.pp.ru> <200106101537.f5AFavo33433@mail.uic-in.net> <200106102136.f5ALawu94200@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611020547.A1379@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010611020547.A1379@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 02:05:49AM +0400 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > And, please also post a list of old vs. new names. Not all of us > > follow the i18n list. > > *.ASCII -> *.US-ASCII > *.ISO_* -> *.ISO* > ja_JP.EUC -> ja_JP.eucJP > ko_KR.EUC -> ko_KR.eucKR > zh_CN.EUC -> zh_CN.eucCN Thanks. I wish there would also be `shortcut names', any other system i've been working with for example provides a locale named `de_DE' so you don't have to type `de_DE.ISO8859-1' all day. FreeBSD is the only (known to me) exception. (Before anybody's arguing, i don't care whether it defaults to 8859-1 or 8859-15, both are basically the same, and the EUR symbol is IMHO nonsense anyway.) -- cheers, J"org .-.-. --... ...-- -.. . DL8DTL http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 10 23:50:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F92337B407; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:50:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id IAA24316; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:50:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5B6Sjj96829; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:28:45 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from j) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:28:45 +0200 From: Joerg Wunsch To: Robert Watson Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic: ufs_extattr_uepm_destroy: not initialized Message-ID: <20010611082845.G94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch References: <200106092219.f59MJNI85937@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from rwatson@freebsd.org on Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 12:35:41PM -0400 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Robert Watson wrote: > Thomas Moestl recently committed some fixes to the EA code, and may > have a couple more in the pipeline that address these problems. I've seen the commits, however, since my system was grossly unstable, i by now took out the EA options again. I'll see whether i can reproduce that with my test machine. > Out of curiosity, does your /tmp actually have EA's started on it, > or is it just the kernel option? I've got UFS_EXTATTR_AUTOSTART in the config. > Are you using MFS or ext2fs at all? Neither of them. > (I've only recently started recovering from moving, so I'm fairly > behind on -CURRENT e-mail) I could think of it, after reading you're "I'm moving, marrying, ..." mail. ;-) -- cheers, J"org .-.-. --... ...-- -.. . DL8DTL http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 5: 1:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E8637B44B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:01:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5BC1BZ34358; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:01:11 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:01:09 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization Message-ID: <20010611160108.A34164@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010610163853.A1166@nagual.pp.ru> <200106101537.f5AFavo33433@mail.uic-in.net> <200106102136.f5ALawu94200@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611020547.A1379@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611082525.F94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611082525.F94133@uriah.heep.sax.de>; from j@uriah.heep.sax.de on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 08:25:25AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 08:25:25 +0200, Joerg Wunsch wrote: > As Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > > > And, please also post a list of old vs. new names. Not all of us > > > follow the i18n list. > > > > *.ASCII -> *.US-ASCII > > *.ISO_* -> *.ISO* > > ja_JP.EUC -> ja_JP.eucJP > > ko_KR.EUC -> ko_KR.eucKR > > zh_CN.EUC -> zh_CN.eucCN > > Thanks. I wish there would also be `shortcut names', any other system > i've been working with for example provides a locale named `de_DE' so > you don't have to type `de_DE.ISO8859-1' all day. FreeBSD is the only > (known to me) exception. (Before anybody's arguing, i don't care Short locale names dramatically increase program efforts to guess locale in each program which tries to deal with it directly, since suppose that program have the same default assumption (from where?) for missing information. If you need to type them - better make shell variables with short names. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 5: 5:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6965A37B410; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:04:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5BC4gD37628; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:04:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Nik Clayton To: "Andrey A. Chernov" , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:04:42 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20010611035650.A20707@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611060725.A4531@nagual.pp.ru> In-Reply-To: <20010611060725.A4531@nagual.pp.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061113044201.36820@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 11 June 2001 3:07 am, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:56:50 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > Please don't commit anything in the areas of subj. until I finish > > rename to new locale names there. > > Done. Feel free to commit. Please don't. While I appreciate the sentiment behind your recent commits to doc/, the last time we did a rename like this there was a lengthy discussion prior to the changes, and we did them by repo-copy. You haven't arranged for any repo copies to be done, effectively doubling the size of the doc/ repo, and there was no discussion of this on doc/. Unfortunately, I'm offline for pretty much the next 36 hours or so (speaking at Linux User Group meetings) so I'm not going to be around. Until then, I've frozen the doc/ tree -- this is to prevent any further commits to the new structure, until we can (I'm assuming) back out your changes, and do them by repo-copy. Sorry for the inconvenience this causes. N - -- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjsks9oACgkQk6gHZCw343XS7ACbBnH0qaUpEdBTPgyZFN86ysvS n3cAn1yPrEgKI0Pf5U0y6hbd5cVPGBDw =3kPM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 5:12:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B10C37B40B; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:12:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5BCCOY34556; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:12:25 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:12:22 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Nik Clayton Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) Message-ID: <20010611161221.C34164@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010611035650.A20707@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611060725.A4531@nagual.pp.ru> <01061113044201.36820@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01061113044201.36820@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 01:04:42PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 13:04:42 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > While I appreciate the sentiment behind your recent commits to doc/, the > last time we did a rename like this there was a lengthy discussion prior to > the changes, and we did them by repo-copy. 1) Lengthy discussion already happens in -i18n 2) Repo-copy was done by Peter. > You haven't arranged for any repo copies to be done, effectively doubling > the size of the doc/ repo, and there was no discussion of this on doc/. 1) No. Repo-copy happens. Changes in the new files are made because hardcoded ISO_ path in them. 2) This subject is not related to doc/ area control excepting doc/ must follow as soon as possible to minimize overal efforts to handle and maintain names in transition period. > Until then, I've frozen the doc/ tree -- this is to prevent any further > commits to the new structure, until we can (I'm assuming) back out your > changes, and do them by repo-copy. 1) I already finish my changes here and post a note about it. 2) They already done as repo-copy. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 5:32:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED0337B407 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:30:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5BCUTM60905 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:30:29 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from jhay) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200106111230.f5BCUTM60905@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> Subject: TI-1225 and -current OLDCARD problem To: current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:30:29 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have tried the new OLDCARD code in -current on a desktop with an Orinoco/ Lucent PCI Cardbus bridge (TI PCI-1225) and a Lucent 802.11 card. I found that the kernel would hang almost at the end of the boot process with the last message "pccard: card inserted, slot 1". But those cards only have slot 0, so on a whim I hacked pccard/pcic_pci.c to only probe/attach the first function on the card and not the second one and I have a working system. My very crude hack looks like this: --- /sys/pccard/pcic_pci.c.org Sat Jun 9 14:16:16 2001 +++ /sys/pccard/pcic_pci.c Mon Jun 11 10:12:36 2001 @@ -354,6 +354,7 @@ struct pcic_pci_table *itm; struct resource *res; int rid; + int func; device_id = pci_get_devid(dev); desc = NULL; @@ -373,6 +374,12 @@ if (desc == NULL) return (ENXIO); device_set_desc(dev, desc); + + func = pci_get_function(dev); + if(func == 1) { + printf("Leave second slot alone\n"); + return (ENXIO); + } /* * Take us out of power down mode. One thing that I noticed is that with a verbose boot with the original code (attached at the end of my email), is that slot 0 give "stat is 4c" while the phantom slot 1 gives "stat is c". Maybe that can be used to detect that it is a phantom slot or maybe a timeout can be implemented? I do know that when the machine is hanging at the end of the boot, I can still break into the debugger, so the machine is totally gone. I guess it is just sitting in some kind of loop waiting for something from the phantom slot. One question, why do I see 2 "card inserted" messages for each slot? Even with my hacked up version I see 2 "pccard: card inserted, slot 0" messages from the kernel. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel] in 9 seconds... Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. ok boot -v SMAP type=01 base=00000000 00000000 len=00000000 000a0000 SMAP type=02 base=00000000 000f0000 len=00000000 00010000 SMAP type=01 base=00000000 00100000 len=00000000 07efc000 SMAP type=03 base=00000000 07ffc000 len=00000000 00003000 SMAP type=04 base=00000000 07fff000 len=00000000 00001000 SMAP type=02 base=00000000 ffff0000 len=00000000 00010000 Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Jun 9 19:49:22 SAST 2001 jhay@d-5-71.icomtek.csir.co.za:/usr/src/sys/compile/PCIPCMCIA Setting adv 0 at to isa (string) Setting aha 0 at to isa (string) Setting aic 0 at to isa (string) Setting apm 0 at to nexus (string) Setting apm 0 disabled to 1 (int) Setting apm 0 flags to 32 (int) Setting ata 0 at to isa (string) Setting ata 0 irq to 14 (int) Setting ata 0 port to 496 (int) Setting ata 1 at to isa (string) Setting ata 1 irq to 15 (int) Setting ata 1 port to 368 (int) Setting atkbd 0 at to atkbdc (string) Setting atkbd 0 flags to 1 (int) Setting atkbd 0 irq to 1 (int) Setting atkbdc 0 at to isa (string) Setting atkbdc 0 port to 96 (int) Setting bt 0 at to isa (string) Setting cs 0 at to isa (string) Setting cs 0 port to 768 (int) Setting ed 0 at to isa (string) Setting ed 0 irq to 10 (int) Setting ed 0 maddr to 884736 (int) Setting ed 0 port to 640 (int) Setting fd 0 at to fdc0 (string) Setting fd 0 drive to 0 (int) Setting fd 1 at to fdc0 (string) Setting fd 1 drive to 1 (int) Setting fdc 0 at to isa (string) Setting fdc 0 drq to 2 (int) Setting fdc 0 irq to 6 (int) Setting fdc 0 port to 1008 (int) Setting fe 0 at to isa (string) Setting fe 0 port to 768 (int) Setting ie 0 at to isa (string) Setting ie 0 irq to 10 (int) Setting ie 0 maddr to 851968 (int) Setting ie 0 port to 768 (int) Setting le 0 at to isa (string) Setting le 0 irq to 5 (int) Setting le 0 maddr to 851968 (int) Setting le 0 port to 768 (int) Setting lnc 0 at to isa (string) Setting lnc 0 drq to 0 (int) Setting lnc 0 irq to 10 (int) Setting lnc 0 port to 640 (int) Setting npx 0 at to nexus (string) Setting npx 0 irq to 13 (int) Setting npx 0 port to 240 (int) Setting pcic 0 at to isa (string) Setting pcic 0 disabled to 1 (int) Setting pcic 0 irq to 10 (int) Setting pcic 0 maddr to 851968 (int) Setting pcic 0 port to 992 (int) Setting pcic 1 at to isa (string) Setting pcic 1 disabled to 1 (int) Setting pcic 1 irq to 11 (int) Setting pcic 1 maddr to 868352 (int) Setting pcic 1 port to 994 (int) Setting pmtimer 0 at to isa (string) Setting ppc 0 at to isa (string) Setting ppc 0 irq to 7 (int) Setting psm 0 at to atkbdc (string) Setting psm 0 irq to 12 (int) Setting sc 0 at to isa (string) Setting sc 0 flags to 256 (int) Setting sio 0 at to isa (string) Setting sio 0 flags to 16 (int) Setting sio 0 irq to 4 (int) Setting sio 0 port to 1016 (int) Setting sio 1 at to isa (string) Setting sio 1 irq to 3 (int) Setting sio 1 port to 760 (int) Setting sio 2 at to isa (string) Setting sio 2 disabled to 1 (int) Setting sio 2 irq to 5 (int) Setting sio 2 port to 1000 (int) Setting sio 3 at to isa (string) Setting sio 3 disabled to 1 (int) Setting sio 3 irq to 9 (int) Setting sio 3 port to 744 (int) Setting sn 0 at to isa (string) Setting sn 0 irq to 10 (int) Setting sn 0 port to 768 (int) Setting vga 0 at to isa (string) Setting vt 0 at to isa (string) Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 664924976 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193102 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method Timecounter "TSC" frequency 664972605 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (664.97-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x683 Stepping = 3 Features=0x387f9ff real memory = 134201344 (131056K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009ffff, 651264 bytes (159 pages) 0x00414000 - 0x07ff3fff, 129892352 bytes (31712 pages) avail memory = 126623744 (123656K bytes) bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00f92a0 bios32: Entry = 0xf0690 (c00f0690) Rev = 0 Len = 1 pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xf0000+0x890 pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00fc260 pnpbios: Entry = f0000:c290 Rev = 1.0 pnpbios: OEM ID cd041 Other BIOS signatures found: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03ee000. null: random: mem: Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled Using $PIR table, 8 entries at 0xc00f0e60 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: physical bus=0 map[10]: type 3, range 32, base e4000000, size 26, enabled found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x0605, revid=0x81 bus=0, slot=0, func=0 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x8605, revid=0x00 bus=0, slot=1, func=0 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x0686, revid=0x22 bus=0, slot=4, func=0 class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 0000d800, size 4, enabled found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x0571, revid=0x10 bus=0, slot=4, func=1 class=01-01-8a, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 0000d400, size 5, enabled found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3038, revid=0x10 bus=0, slot=4, func=2 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 intpin=d, irq=12 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 0000d000, size 5, enabled found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3038, revid=0x10 bus=0, slot=4, func=3 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 intpin=d, irq=12 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3057, revid=0x30 bus=0, slot=4, func=4 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 0000b800, size 8, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base d5800000, size 12, enabled found-> vendor=0x9004, dev=0x5078, revid=0x03 bus=0, slot=13, func=0 class=01-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 intpin=a, irq=11 powerspec 1 supports D0 D3 current D0 found-> vendor=0x104c, dev=0xac1c, revid=0x01 bus=0, slot=15, func=0 class=06-07-00, hdrtype=0x02, mfdev=1 intpin=a, irq=10 powerspec 1 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 found-> vendor=0x104c, dev=0xac1c, revid=0x01 bus=0, slot=15, func=1 class=06-07-00, hdrtype=0x02, mfdev=1 intpin=a, irq=10 powerspec 1 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 0000b400, size 6, enabled found-> vendor=0x1274, dev=0x5880, revid=0x02 bus=0, slot=16, func=0 class=04-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 intpin=a, irq=12 powerspec 1 supports D0 D2 D3 current D3 map[10]: type 3, range 32, base d7000000, size 12, enabled map[14]: type 4, range 32, base 0000b000, size 5, enabled map[18]: type 1, range 32, base d5000000, size 20, enabled found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x1229, revid=0x02 bus=0, slot=17, func=0 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 intpin=a, irq=11 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pcib1: secondary bus 1 pcib1: subordinate bus 1 pcib1: I/O decode 0xe000-0xdfff pcib1: memory decode 0xd6000000-0xd6efffff pcib1: prefetched decode 0xd7f00000-0xe3ffffff pci1: physical bus=1 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base d6000000, size 19, enabled map[14]: type 3, range 32, base d8000000, size 27, enabled found-> vendor=0x5333, dev=0x8a22, revid=0x04 bus=1, slot=0, func=0 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 intpin=a, irq=11 powerspec 1 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 on pci0 ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0xd800 ata0: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata0-master: ATAPI probe 00 00 ata0-slave: ATAPI probe 00 00 ata0: mask=03 stat0=50 stat1=00 ata0-master: ATA probe 01 a5 ata0: devices=01 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0xd808 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 12 at device 4.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 12 at device 4.3 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ahc0: port 0xb800-0xb8ff mem 0xd5800000-0xd5800fff irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0 ahc0: No SEEPROM available. ahc0: Host Adapter Bios disabled. Using default SCSI device parameters ahc0: Downloading Sequencer Program... 443 instructions downloaded aic7850: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 3/255 SCBs pcic0: irq 10 at device 15.0 on pci0 pcic0: PCI Memory allocated: 0x44000000 pcic0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [pwr save][pci only] pccard0: on pcic0 stat is 4c pcic1: irq 10 at device 15.1 on pci0 pcic1: PCI Memory allocated: 0x44001000 pcic1: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [pwr save][pci only] pccard1: on pcic1 stat is c pci0: at 16.0 (no driver attached) fxp0: port 0xb000-0xb01f mem 0xd5000000-0xd50fffff,0xd7000000-0xd7000fff irq 11 at device 17.0 on pci0 fxp0: using memory space register mapping fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:42:7a:98 fxp0: PCI IDs: 8086 1229 8086 0001 0002 fxp0: Chip Type: 1 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto bpf: fxp0 attached ata-: ata0 already exists, using ata2 instead ata-: ata1 already exists, using ata3 instead pcic-: pcic0 already exists, using pcic2 instead pcic-: pcic1 already exists, using pcic3 instead Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 pnpbios: 15 devices, largest 114 bytes PNP0401: adding dma mask 0x8 PNP0401: adding irq mask 0x80 PNP0401: adding io range 0x378-0x37f, size=0x8, align=0 PNP0401: adding io range 0x778-0x77f, size=0x8, align=0 PNP0401: end config pnpbios: handle 1 device ID PNP0401 (0104d041) PNP0501: adding irq mask 0x10 PNP0501: adding io range 0x3f8-0x3ff, size=0x8, align=0 PNP0501: end config pnpbios: handle 2 device ID PNP0501 (0105d041) PNP0501: adding irq mask 0x8 PNP0501: adding io range 0x2f8-0x2ff, size=0x8, align=0 PNP0501: end config pnpbios: handle 3 device ID PNP0501 (0105d041) PNP0700: adding irq mask 0x40 PNP0700: adding dma mask 0x4 PNP0700: adding io range 0x3f2-0x3f5, size=0x4, align=0 PNP0700: end config pnpbios: handle 4 device ID PNP0700 (0007d041) PNPb02f: adding io range 0x200-0x207, size=0x8, align=0 PNPb02f: end config pnpbios: handle 5 device ID PNPb02f (2fb0d041) PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0-0x9ffff, size=0xa0000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0x100000-0x7ffffff, size=0x7f00000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0xe8000-0xeffff, size=0x8000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0xf0000-0xf3fff, size=0x4000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0xf4000-0xf7fff, size=0x4000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0xf8000-0xfffff, size=0x8000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0xcf000-0xcffff, size=0x1000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0xfffe0000-0xffffffff, size=0x20000 PNP0c01: end config pnpbios: handle 9 device ID PNP0c01 (010cd041) PNP0000: adding irq mask 0x4 PNP0000: adding io range 0x20-0x21, size=0x2, align=0 PNP0000: adding io range 0xa0-0xa1, size=0x2, align=0 PNP0000: adding io range 0x4d0-0x4d1, size=0x2, align=0 PNP0000: end config pnpbios: handle 10 device ID PNP0000 (0000d041) PNP0100: adding irq mask 0x1 PNP0100: adding io range 0x40-0x43, size=0x4, align=0 PNP0100: end config pnpbios: handle 11 device ID PNP0100 (0001d041) PNP0b00: adding irq mask 0x100 PNP0b00: adding io range 0x70-0x75, size=0x6, align=0 PNP0b00: end config pnpbios: handle 12 device ID PNP0b00 (000bd041) PNP0303: adding irq mask 0x2 PNP0303: adding io range 0x60-0x60, size=0x1, align=0 PNP0303: adding io range 0x64-0x64, size=0x1, align=0 PNP0303: end config pnpbios: handle 13 device ID PNP0303 (0303d041) PNP0c04: adding irq mask 0x2000 PNP0c04: adding io range 0xf0-0xf0, size=0x1, align=0 PNP0c04: end config pnpbios: handle 14 device ID PNP0c04 (040cd041) PNP0200: adding dma mask 0x10 PNP0200: adding io range 0-0xf, size=0x10, align=0 PNP0200: adding io range 0x80-0x90, size=0x11, align=0 PNP0200: adding io range 0x94-0x9f, size=0xc, align=0 PNP0200: adding io range 0xc0-0xde, size=0x1f, align=0 PNP0200: end config pnpbios: handle 15 device ID PNP0200 (0002d041) PNP0800: adding io range 0x61-0x61, size=0x1, align=0x1 PNP0800: end config pnpbios: handle 16 device ID PNP0800 (0008d041) PNP0a03: adding io range 0xcf8-0xcff, size=0x8, align=0 PNP0a03: end config pnpbios: handle 17 device ID PNP0a03 (030ad041) PNP0c02: adding io range 0xe400-0xe47f, size=0x80, align=0 PNP0c02: adding io range 0xe800-0xe83f, size=0x40, align=0 PNP0c02: end config pnpbios: handle 18 device ID PNP0c02 (020cd041) sc-: sc0 already exists, using sc1 instead vga-: vga0 already exists, using vga1 instead isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices orm0: Will you please update me with any changes to the above software.

Regards


David Jordan --part1_ea.16b7506d.28562f4a_boundary-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 7:28: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1D337B405; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:27:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5BEReG36280; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:27:40 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:27:38 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Motoyuki Konno Cc: Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) Message-ID: <20010611182737.A36154@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010611035650.A20707@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611060725.A4531@nagual.pp.ru> <01061113044201.36820@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010611161221.C34164@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111337.f5BDbCE30451@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106111337.f5BDbCE30451@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org>; from motoyuki@bsdclub.org on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:37:12PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 22:37:12 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote: > > Please take care of 4-stable system. For that reason currently I don't touch information about i18n names in localization chapter - a patch needed there notifying that names are different for FreeBSD 5.x - I plan to produce it later and send here for review. I commit to Japanese man.1 page change which applies to -current only, I think it should be backed out if there are -stable manpages, not -current one. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 7:35: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47EE37B407 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:34:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7772010F414; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:34:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:34:59 -0500 From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: Djordan60932429@aol.com Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.1 Message-ID: <20010611093459.D30997@leviathan.inethouston.net> Reply-To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Mail-Followup-To: Djordan60932429@aol.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:27:22AM -0400, Djordan60932429@aol.com wrote: > Will you please update me with any changes to the above software. > This is the wrong list, but you can obtain those changes by looking in /usr/src/UPDATING -- David W. Chapman Jr. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 8:51:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mk.bsdclub.org (adsl2003.ea.rim.or.jp [202.247.148.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5C137B401; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:51:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from motoyuki@mk.bsdclub.org) Received: from sakura.mk.bsdclub.org (sakura.mk.bsdclub.org [3ffe:505:2022:0:2a0:c9ff:fe20:9aff]) by mail.mk.bsdclub.org (8.11.3+3.4W/3.7W/smtpfeed 1.12) with ESMTP/inet6 id f5BFpWL80329; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:51:32 +0900 (JST) Received: from sakura.mk.bsdclub.org (localhost.mk.bsdclub.org [127.0.0.1]) by sakura.mk.bsdclub.org (8.11.3/3.7W) with ESMTP/inet id f5BFpWE30649; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:51:32 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200106111551.f5BFpWE30649@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: Motoyuki Konno , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) From: Motoyuki Konno X-Mailer: mh-e on Mule 2.3 / Emacs 19.34.1 References: <20010611035650.A20707@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611060725.A4531@nagual.pp.ru> <01061113044201.36820@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010611161221.C34164@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111337.f5BDbCE30451@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611175041.A35687@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:51:32 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 22:37:12 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote: > > > 1) Lengthy discussion already happens in -i18n > > > 2) Repo-copy was done by Peter. > > > > We discussed in -i18n ML, but you said NOTHING about doc/ tree. > > Renaming is a technical question not related to doc. Having both old and > new names mix leads to chaos. Of couce, locale renaming is technical question. I agree with this. But, there's a non-technical problems too. It seems that you've skipped some important procedure. o tell Nik about the change. Nik is responsible for doc/ tree. o discussion about "when" we do repo-copy. To minimize the side effect of the change, prior announcement (at least, to doc@FreeBSD.org) and discussion are very important. o discussion about the need of renaming doc/ and src/ is different. Renaming under doc/ is not "must". > > For this moment, 4-stable system does not support the new locale > > name (ISO8859 etc.). So, your repo-copy and commits broke > > "make release" on 4-stable system. > > No. Nothing planned to be broken on 4-stable as result of my commit. > Apparently you did not test it. If I miss something - tell me exact bug > description. For example, see the definition of "DOC_LANG" in src/release/Makefile. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Motoyuki Konno motoyuki@bsdclub.org (Home) motoyuki@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Project) http://www.freebsd.org/~motoyuki/ (WWW) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 9:16: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0601437B401; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:15:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5BGFWn38295; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:15:33 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:15:32 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Motoyuki Konno Cc: Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) Message-ID: <20010611201531.A38114@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010611035650.A20707@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611060725.A4531@nagual.pp.ru> <01061113044201.36820@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010611161221.C34164@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111337.f5BDbCE30451@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611175041.A35687@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111551.f5BFpWE30649@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106111551.f5BFpWE30649@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org>; from motoyuki@bsdclub.org on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:51:32AM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 00:51:32 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote: > > o tell Nik about the change. > > Nik is responsible for doc/ tree. > > o discussion about "when" we do repo-copy. > > To minimize the side effect of the change, prior announcement > (at least, to doc@FreeBSD.org) and discussion are very important. 1) I post HEADS UP to -doc several hours before the change happens - no one object. 2) Peter does repo-copy as I ask. I have wrong assumption that he coordinates with Nik at this subj. > doc/ and src/ is different. Renaming under doc/ is not "must". All changes of such nature are not "must" - there are always hackarounds exists. The reason for them is to minimize constant efforts and possible confusion. > For example, see the definition of "DOC_LANG" in src/release/Makefile. Did you actually look there? I already fix it for -current and plan to MFC, but stuck in current misunderstanding we discuss. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 9:45:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9535937B409; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:45:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f5BGjN901589; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5BGjNA08546; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:45:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106111645.f5BGjNA08546@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4+ 06/08/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: Motoyuki Konno , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) In-Reply-To: <20010611201531.A38114@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010611035650.A20707@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611060725.A4531@nagual.pp.ru> <01061113044201.36820@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010611161221.C34164@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111337.f5BDbCE30451@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611175041.A35687@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111551.f5BFpWE30649@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611201531.A38114@nagual.pp.ru> Comments: In-reply-to "Andrey A. Chernov" message dated "Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:15:32 +0400." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-192768850P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:45:23 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-192768850P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 00:51:32 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote: > > > > o tell Nik about the change. > > > > Nik is responsible for doc/ tree. > > > > o discussion about "when" we do repo-copy. > > > > To minimize the side effect of the change, prior announcement > > (at least, to doc@FreeBSD.org) and discussion are very important. > > 1) I post HEADS UP to -doc several hours before the change happens - no > one object. Let's see. You sent a heads-up to -CURRENT for /usr/src/release/doc and /usr/doc at "Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:56:50 +0400". This was the first hint that I would have had that you were going to touch RELNOTESng at all. The commit that renamed RELNOTESng happened about "2001/06/10 18:48:17 PDT". This was, er, let's see, about *two hours* later?!? No wonder no one objected...I bet you were already finished before most people read your heads-up message! Did you realistically think that a two-hour advance notice on a weekend was sufficient? > 2) Peter does repo-copy as I ask. I have wrong assumption that he > coordinates with Nik at this subj. > > > doc/ and src/ is different. Renaming under doc/ is not "must". > > All changes of such nature are not "must" - there are always hackarounds > exists. The reason for them is to minimize constant efforts and > possible confusion. There would have been less confusion if your heads-up had actually been sent with enough advance warning that people would have actually *read* it. > > For example, see the definition of "DOC_LANG" in src/release/Makefile. > > Did you actually look there? I already fix it for -current and plan to > MFC, but stuck in current misunderstanding we discuss. You broke the overnight snapshot build of RELNOTESng for RELENG_4 (jkh just sent me the build failure report). But I see now that you've just MFC-ed something to src/release/Makefile...hope this fixes it. For the record, I'd just like to state my extreme annoyance at this lack of notification. I don't think I'm being overly demanding. It'd have been good enough for me personally if, say, two days ago, you'd sent a message to -doc saying "we're going to re-do some of the I18N stuff, go read -i18n for details". Bruce. PS. And perhaps someone can tell me if these changes are going to get MFC-ed and if so, how RELNOTESng is going to get handled. Remember, it's branched, unlike doc/. --==_Exmh_-192768850P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7JPWj2MoxcVugUsMRAocNAKCLHU+U4qBnQ04H+T98beUpBSWsCgCgo7t1 CMgZOs7Bm81m/gHUh3thh1o= =sFaw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-192768850P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 10:20:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28ADA37B405; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:19:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5BHJsR39208; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:19:54 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:19:53 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Motoyuki Konno , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) Message-ID: <20010611211953.A39062@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010611035650.A20707@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611060725.A4531@nagual.pp.ru> <01061113044201.36820@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010611161221.C34164@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111337.f5BDbCE30451@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611175041.A35687@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111551.f5BFpWE30649@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611201531.A38114@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111645.f5BGjNA08546@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106111645.f5BGjNA08546@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:45:23AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:45:23 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > PDT". This was, er, let's see, about *two hours* later?!? >=20 > No wonder no one objected...I bet you were already finished before most= =20 > people read your heads-up message! Did you realistically think that a=20 > two-hour advance notice on a weekend was sufficient? > There would have been less confusion if your heads-up had actually been= =20 > sent with enough advance warning that people would have actually *read*= =20 > it. I agree, but just imagine that I have assumption that Peter already resolve this issue with Nick (since he do repo copy) and you'll find=20 a reason to not be extra-cautious. > You broke the overnight snapshot build of RELNOTESng for RELENG_4 (jkh=20 > just sent me the build failure report). But I see now that you've just= =20 > MFC-ed something to src/release/Makefile...hope this fixes it. Immediate MFC is against our policy, isn't?=20 Tell me if there any problems appearse. > PS. And perhaps someone can tell me if these changes are going to get=20 > MFC-ed and if so, how RELNOTESng is going to get handled. Remember,=20 > it's branched, unlike doc/. src locale rename changes not be MFC-ed, they are for 5.x branch only. Since RELNOTES branched I left to RELNOTES poeople to decide if they want to follow new names policy or not. --=20 Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBOyT9ueJgpPLZnQjrAQF6vgP9G3whocZdyyadjn586DH5Izau3vvjaQZ2 sCJGOqjVFNqyKkxS40FYSL4uWBgXHhLUxA+rbwNFQxo9rTzDqVh6swEl/X7f1Rga mlh+DGd/g8Hq4fEZoXmT4M0iNnLAw7TQELKJaRlAdmJM1ZbvSqVcAoka+xPbjYsu SjTrndNJ3lE= =YVGI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 10:24:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE35837B401; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:24:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5BHO5g39306; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:24:05 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:24:05 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Motoyuki Konno , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) Message-ID: <20010611212405.B39062@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010611035650.A20707@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611060725.A4531@nagual.pp.ru> <01061113044201.36820@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010611161221.C34164@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111337.f5BDbCE30451@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611175041.A35687@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111551.f5BFpWE30649@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611201531.A38114@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111645.f5BGjNA08546@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010611211953.A39062@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5/uDoXvLw7AC5HRs" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611211953.A39062@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:19:53PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --5/uDoXvLw7AC5HRs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 21:19:53 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > Since RELNOTES branched I left to RELNOTES people to decide if they > want to follow new names policy or not. I mean, for -stable. --=20 Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ --5/uDoXvLw7AC5HRs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBOyT+teJgpPLZnQjrAQGrowQAxnc4VnV2c1luHBB+1VdsDcZr2g0znmW8 utyFwV4x2BF1TVXDRAgf+dNS66L+jOue6IQQ7ykHJteCSm7lrgAQDsvA1DZ4x3EI 7XBSfYbF/oHUiCY+0eVvG8Hc8lr/8Gd1ENFLbKz0knLPfdHks9F2I5MrJJYfxy8l Zs82wtQX56I= =PWxh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5/uDoXvLw7AC5HRs-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 11:26:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CC737B408 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:26:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f5BIQSi45624 for current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:26:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:26:28 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: ** HEADS UP **: -nostdinc -Wfoo ==> -DNO_WERROR is temporarily the default for `buildworld' Message-ID: <20010611212628.A37954@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! -DNO_WERROR (which effectively disables the -Werror) is temporarily the default for `buildworld' because restored -nostdinc bit affects the gcc(1) warning produced for /usr/include headers. (See Makefile.inc1,v 1.203.) For example, if run with -nostdinc, bin/chmod bombs with the following: : Warning: Object directory not changed from original /home/ru/1/chmod : cc -O -pipe -nostdinc -I/usr/include -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wno-uninitialized -Werror -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -c chmod.c : cc1: warnings being treated as errors : In file included from chmod.c:53: : /usr/include/fts.h:48: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype : *** Error code 1 : : Stop in /home/ru/1/chmod. While this is definitely a problem in fts.h, which is fixed with the attached patch, it is unclear why this warning is hidden after the -nostdinc. PLEASE DON'T FIX THE HEADERS UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHY THIS IS HIDDEN AFTER -nostdinc. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 11:35:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01A137B40C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:35:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f5BIZhk50527 for current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:35:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:35:43 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP **: -nostdinc -Wfoo ==> -DNO_WERROR is temporarily the default for `buildworld' Message-ID: <20010611213543.A50405@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.org References: <20010611212628.A37954@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611212628.A37954@sunbay.com>; from ru@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:26:28PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:26:28PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: [...] > While this is definitely a problem in fts.h, which is fixed with the > attached patch, it is unclear why this warning is hidden after the > -nostdinc. > For those interested, here's the missing patch. -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=p Index: include/fts.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/include/fts.h,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -p -r1.3 fts.h --- include/fts.h 1997/05/07 19:59:58 1.3 +++ include/fts.h 2001/06/11 18:20:14 @@ -45,7 +45,8 @@ typedef struct { int fts_rfd; /* fd for root */ int fts_pathlen; /* sizeof(path) */ int fts_nitems; /* elements in the sort array */ - int (*fts_compar)(); /* compare function */ + int (*fts_compar) /* compare function */ + __P((const struct _ftsent **, const struct _ftsent **)); #define FTS_COMFOLLOW 0x001 /* follow command line symlinks */ #define FTS_LOGICAL 0x002 /* logical walk */ Index: lib/libc/gen/fts.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libc/gen/fts.c,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -u -p -r1.18 fts.c --- lib/libc/gen/fts.c 2001/06/01 21:53:50 1.18 +++ lib/libc/gen/fts.c 2001/06/11 18:20:17 @@ -936,7 +936,8 @@ fts_sort(sp, head, nitems) } for (ap = sp->fts_array, p = head; p; p = p->fts_link) *ap++ = p; - qsort((void *)sp->fts_array, nitems, sizeof(FTSENT *), sp->fts_compar); + qsort((void *)sp->fts_array, nitems, sizeof(FTSENT *), + (int (*) __P((const void *, const void *)))sp->fts_compar); for (head = *(ap = sp->fts_array); --nitems; ++ap) ap[0]->fts_link = ap[1]; ap[0]->fts_link = NULL; --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 11:43: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com [171.70.157.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B14E37B403; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:42:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f5BIf4F12443; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5BIgRB13547; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:42:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106111842.f5BIgRB13547@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4+ 06/08/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Motoyuki Konno , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) In-Reply-To: <20010611211953.A39062@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010611035650.A20707@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611060725.A4531@nagual.pp.ru> <01061113044201.36820@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010611161221.C34164@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111337.f5BDbCE30451@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611175041.A35687@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111551.f5BFpWE30649@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611201531.A38114@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111645.f5BGjNA08546@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010611211953.A39062@nagual.pp.ru> Comments: In-reply-to "Andrey A. Chernov" message dated "Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:19:53 +0400." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-48180898P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:42:27 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-48180898P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > > There would have been less confusion if your heads-up had actually been= > =20 > > sent with enough advance warning that people would have actually *read*= > =20 > > it. > > I agree, but just imagine that I have assumption that Peter already > resolve this issue with Nick (since he do repo copy) and you'll find=20 > a reason to not be extra-cautious. Grrrrr...no, I wouldn't find a reason to not be "extra-cautious". But I'm probably not going to convince you of that. > > You broke the overnight snapshot build of RELNOTESng for RELENG_4 (jkh=20 > > just sent me the build failure report). But I see now that you've just= > =20 > > MFC-ed something to src/release/Makefile...hope this fixes it. > > Immediate MFC is against our policy, isn't?=20 So is immediate breakage. > Tell me if there any problems appearse. RELNOTESng is broken for RELENG_4. I would have warned you about the possibility of this, if you'd bothered to ask first. > > PS. And perhaps someone can tell me if these changes are going to get=20 > > MFC-ed and if so, how RELNOTESng is going to get handled. Remember,=20 > > it's branched, unlike doc/. > > src locale rename changes not be MFC-ed, they are for 5.x branch only. > Since RELNOTES branched I left to RELNOTES poeople to decide if they > want to follow new names policy or not. (Bruce starts wondering why he bothered to get a haircut this weekend, because he's starting to pull his hair out now. In chunks.) Arrrrgh. Look, Andrey, *I'm* the person who designed RELNOTESng, and this is the first *I've* heard of it! :-( I'd go on, but I'm remembering a (good) rule about not fighting with other committers in public. I'll invoke this on myself now. It looks like the easiest way out of this will be to follow your new names policy on the RELENG_4 branch (at least for doc/ and src/release/ doc/). This will involve a repo-copy at the least, but I've never seen a repo-copy done for files on a branch. Please *don't* do this. Let *me* first do some *testing* first, and then ask for the repo-copy myself when I'm satisfied that it will work. Also before doing this I want to find out if nik wants to take any other actions for doc/, in case there are changes that might need to be coordinated. Bruce. --==_Exmh_-48180898P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7JRET2MoxcVugUsMRAkGNAKDWXi1HJ8bhMph8xPWd/mtm1CBicACgiAbk 9MLt5Jc4m1mwKY63eJuCoV8= =aX4+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-48180898P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 12: 2:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACC437B40A; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:02:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5BJ2Ej47671; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:02:14 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:02:13 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Motoyuki Konno , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) Message-ID: <20010611230213.A47504@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010611060725.A4531@nagual.pp.ru> <01061113044201.36820@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010611161221.C34164@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111337.f5BDbCE30451@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611175041.A35687@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111551.f5BFpWE30649@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611201531.A38114@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111645.f5BGjNA08546@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010611211953.A39062@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111842.f5BIgRB13547@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106111842.f5BIgRB13547@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:42:27AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:42:27 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > >=20 > > Immediate MFC is against our policy, isn't?=3D20 >=20 > So is immediate breakage. Yes, but fixed. It seems that people forget that every big change means some period to settle down. > RELNOTESng is broken for RELENG_4. I would have warned you about the=20 > possibility of this, if you'd bothered to ask first. How exactly it is broken? I didn't touch a bit of RELNOTES on -stable. > It looks like the easiest way out of this will be to follow your new > names policy on the RELENG_4 branch (at least for doc/ and src/release/ > doc/). This will involve a repo-copy at the least, but I've never seen > a repo-copy done for files on a branch. Please *don't* do this. Let I not understand well what you try to say exactly. The things flow was: 1) Repo-copy for src/release/doc was done by Peter. 2) I apply corresponding rename to -current branch. 3) I have no opinion is it must be done in -stable too or not. Personally I not plan to touch those bits in -stable in any case, so they remain as is and can't be broken as you say unless I miss some technical details you not explain. --=20 Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBOyUVteJgpPLZnQjrAQEADQP/fkfZeVKE3O1G/jAxo0QAah0lbYIIunz9 Ly+cNstcZu3PT8MQVNQqAu+vLgJjRpkulEZ25252Drto9nOyxffVIxHOa2X4Ae55 tV/LlEq/nldr3Mou+4/ch+leULXisbe9/Q8buLERJ3jwkus60joiN+knkA0Jz9IC kw0y7zCFrQI= =Fwj5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 12:21:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32CE37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:21:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id VAA05777; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:21:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5BJKGi99068; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:20:16 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from j) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:20:16 +0200 From: Joerg Wunsch To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization Message-ID: <20010611212016.K94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch References: <20010610163853.A1166@nagual.pp.ru> <200106101537.f5AFavo33433@mail.uic-in.net> <200106102136.f5ALawu94200@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611020547.A1379@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611082525.F94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611160108.A34164@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010611160108.A34164@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 04:01:09PM +0400 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Andrey A. Chernov wrote: >> Thanks. I wish there would also be `shortcut names', any other >> system i've been working with for example provides a locale named >> `de_DE' so you don't have to type `de_DE.ISO8859-1' all day. >> FreeBSD is the only (known to me) exception. (Before anybody's >> arguing, i don't care > Short locale names dramatically increase program efforts to guess > locale in each program which tries to deal with it directly, since > suppose that program have the same default assumption (from where?) > for missing information. Sorry, i can't follow you. Which program is trying to guess local names, and how could i get a problem by providing a user-friendly alias name (i. e., a symlink)? And, why do all the other Unices don't have a problem with it? > If you need to type them - better make shell variables with > short names. Sorry, even /remembering/ the long name is a nuisance for the users, and i always have a hard time explaining them why they have to type thoseoverlylonglocalenames just on FreeBSD only -- or rather, i can't explain them. Not when seeing that all the other Unices don't require it. -- cheers, J"org .-.-. --... ...-- -.. . DL8DTL http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 12:34:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BE437B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5BJYQl48186; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:34:26 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:34:25 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization Message-ID: <20010611233423.A48057@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010610163853.A1166@nagual.pp.ru> <200106101537.f5AFavo33433@mail.uic-in.net> <200106102136.f5ALawu94200@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611020547.A1379@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611082525.F94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611160108.A34164@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611212016.K94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611212016.K94133@uriah.heep.sax.de>; from j@uriah.heep.sax.de on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:20:16PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 21:20:16 +0200, Joerg Wunsch wrote: > > locale in each program which tries to deal with it directly, since > > suppose that program have the same default assumption (from where?) > > for missing information. > > Sorry, i can't follow you. Which program is trying to guess local > names, and how could i get a problem by providing a user-friendly > alias name (i. e., a symlink)? And, why do all the other Unices > don't have a problem with it? This is not locale data problem so can't be resolved via symlink. This is locale name problem. With partial locale name given program can't sense some info from missing parts of it, i.e. can't determine codeset and territory in worst case. All Unices have problem with it since it is standard relaxation provided historycally. Recent standartization efforts attempts to compensate such bad practice, f.e. nl_langinfo(CODESET) allows you to get codeset now, but nothing yet allows you to get territory of shortest locale name. Old programs are not aware about nl_langinfo(CODESET) and attempts to get all info from env. variable value. In case there is short form, programs make various assumptions which are different and often not right. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 12:52:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F7B37B410 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5BJqOf48500; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:52:24 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:52:23 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization Message-ID: <20010611235223.A48405@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010610163853.A1166@nagual.pp.ru> <200106101537.f5AFavo33433@mail.uic-in.net> <200106102136.f5ALawu94200@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611020547.A1379@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611082525.F94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611160108.A34164@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611212016.K94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611233423.A48057@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611233423.A48057@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:34:25PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 23:34:25 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > All Unices have problem with it since it is standard relaxation provided > historycally. Recent standartization efforts attempts to compensate such > bad practice, f.e. nl_langinfo(CODESET) allows you to get codeset now, but > nothing yet allows you to get territory of shortest locale name. Old > programs are not aware about nl_langinfo(CODESET) and attempts to get all > info from env. variable value. In case there is short form, programs make > various assumptions which are different and often not right. I.e. theoretically right now we can reduce locale names to two components (language and territory) since we have in -current (but not in -stable) nl_langinfo(CODESET), but not to one component (language) since there is no standard function to get territory. But then we need to rewrite all old programs which parse LANG directly to use nl_langinfo(CODESET). -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 13: 1: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (SHW12-37.accesscable.net [24.71.155.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF34C37B408; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:00:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5BK0lc55562; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:00:47 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:00:47 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Cc: Subject: swap_pager / SCB time outs? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just upgraded my server to newest kernel, did a 'make -j16 buildworld' and an installworld with no problems, and then started building newest kde ... woke up to this all over my screen ... console was locked, ctl-alt-esc made no difference, had to cold-boot to get the system back up again ... Jun 11 06:48:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefomplete. Interrupts may not be functioning. Jun 11 06:48:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefomplete. Interrupts may not be functioning. Jun 11 07:02:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 73496, size: 4096 Jun 11 07:02:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 73496, size: 4096 Jun 11 07:06:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: ahc0: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. Jun 11 07:06:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: ahc0: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. Jun 11 07:10:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 27920, size: 4096 Jun 11 07:10:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 27920, size: 4096 Jun 11 07:15:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 27920, size: 4096 Jun 11 07:15:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 27920, size: 4096 Jun 11 07:22:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: ahc0: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. Jun 11 07:22:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: ahc0: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. Jun 11 07:33:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 27920, size: 4096 Jun 11 07:33:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 27920, size: 4096 Jun 11 07:42:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 83504, size: 4096 Jun 11 07:42:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 83504, size: 4096 Jun 11 07:45:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 83504, size: 4096 Jun 11 07:45:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 83504, size: 4096 Jun 11 07:51:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: ahc0: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. Jun 11 07:51:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: ahc0: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. Jun 11 07:55:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 84760, size: 8192 Jun 11 07:55:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 84760, size: 8192 Jun 11 08:03:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 84760, size: 8192 Jun 11 08:03:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: da1s1b, blkno: 84760, size: 8192 Jun 11 08:11:20 thelab /boot/kernel/kernel: ahc0: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 13:18:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF01737B407; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:18:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Received: from scsiguy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f5BKI2U67209; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:18:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200106112018.f5BKI2U67209@aslan.scsiguy.com> To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: swap_pager / SCB time outs? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:00:47 -0300." Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:18:02 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >Just upgraded my server to newest kernel, did a 'make -j16 buildworld' and >an installworld with no problems, and then started building newest kde ... >woke up to this all over my screen ... The aic7xxx driver is seeing repeated timeouts but everytime it goes to check on a transaction, the transaction is already complete. This usually indicates (as the driver mentions) a problem with interrupts. Perhaps one of the SMPng guys may know why this is happening. At this point, I don't believe that it is an aic7xxx specific bug. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 13:35:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25AC037B403; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:35:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f5BKZe915163; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5BKZdU17583; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:35:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106112035.f5BKZdU17583@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4+ 06/08/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Motoyuki Konno , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) In-Reply-To: <20010611230213.A47504@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010611060725.A4531@nagual.pp.ru> <01061113044201.36820@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010611161221.C34164@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111337.f5BDbCE30451@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611175041.A35687@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111551.f5BFpWE30649@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611201531.A38114@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111645.f5BGjNA08546@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010611211953.A39062@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111842.f5BIgRB13547@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010611230213.A47504@nagual.pp.ru> Comments: In-reply-to "Andrey A. Chernov" message dated "Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:02:13 +0400." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_93530558P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:35:39 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_93530558P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:42:27 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > >=20 > > > Immediate MFC is against our policy, isn't?=3D20 > >=20 > > So is immediate breakage. > > Yes, but fixed. It's still broken. > It seems that people forget that every big change means > some period to settle down. I personally haven't forgotten that. But it seems that people forget that big changes require some advance notice (and testing), to reduce the amount of settling down that is required. As I mentioned in my last message, I would have gladly explained the potential problem to you, if you'd posted a heads-up message with a little advance notice. > > RELNOTESng is broken for RELENG_4. I would have warned you about the=20 > > possibility of this, if you'd bothered to ask first. > > How exactly it is broken? I didn't touch a bit of RELNOTES on -stable. RELNOTESng depends on part of the doc/ tree. Note that doc/ is not branched, but src/release/doc/ is. When you moved parts of the doc/ tree around in -CURRENT, you caused doc/ on -CURRENT to become inconsistent with src/ on 4-STABLE. This broke RELNOTESng on 4-STABLE. What I am saying is that it appears to me that src/release/doc/ on RELENG_4 needs to be changed to reflect the new naming scheme. It is broken now, and will not build, because of inconsistencies in naming language codes between src/ in 4-STABLE and doc/ in -CURRENT. > 3) I have no opinion is it must be done in -stable too or not. Personally > I not plan to touch those bits in -stable in any case, so they remain as > is and can't be broken as you say unless I miss some technical details you > not explain. It's broken. You missed some details. I've tried to explain it as best I can in email. As you can see by the attached output, there is a definite breakage here. Please *don't* try to fix it. Please let *me* figure out a fix and do some testing, as well as coordination with nik and the repo-meisters. Thank you. Bruce. ----- intruder:doc% make DOC_PREFIX=/usr/doc ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1 ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/relnotes ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/relnotes/alpha /usr/local/bin/openjade -ioutput.html -ioutput.html.images -V nochunks -V openja de -c /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/doc/share/sgml/catalo g -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgm l/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/openjade/catalog -c /usr/users/bmah/F reeBSD/RELENG_4/release/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../share/sgml/ catalog -d /usr/users/bmah/FreeBSD/RELENG_4/release/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/relnote s/alpha/../../../en_US.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/release.dsl -t sgml /usr/users/bmah /FreeBSD/RELENG_4/release/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/relnotes/alpha/article.sgml > art icle.html || (rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/openjade:E: cannot open "/usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/cat alog" (No such file or directory) [ad nauseum] --==_Exmh_93530558P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7JSua2MoxcVugUsMRAmA3AKDEOXS+WJgHv5Z/TN2SUsQC/iyQNwCeJk9b giUQlI+luGtXHqqTjKmCcT4= =oa6a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_93530558P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 14:18:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC70537B401; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:18:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5BLIAw49875; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:18:11 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:18:08 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Motoyuki Konno , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) Message-ID: <20010612011807.A49698@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010611161221.C34164@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111337.f5BDbCE30451@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611175041.A35687@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111551.f5BFpWE30649@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611201531.A38114@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111645.f5BGjNA08546@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010611211953.A39062@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111842.f5BIgRB13547@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010611230213.A47504@nagual.pp.ru> <200106112035.f5BKZdU17583@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106112035.f5BKZdU17583@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 01:35:39PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 13:35:39 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: >=20 > RELNOTESng depends on part of the doc/ tree. Note that doc/ is not=20 I understand now. That info you can provide from the beginning to minimize messages exchange. I am open to discuss how to fix it. My suggestions are: MFC RELNOTESng from -current or Fix RELNOTESng affected pathes to new scheme without MFCing or=20 Copy needed parts locally to RELNOTESng to eliminate possibility of this situation in future. or Backing out my doc/ changes. (YES!!! I realy tired of amount of complaints given on this technically simple issue from doc/ people. Nobody can be 100% accurate. Very minor things polishing will be far more good for project than all that "procedure" questions talks. We are all adults. Don't teach other how to behave. If doc/ people prefer to have control and power in favor of technical consistensy, let it be so.) --=20 Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBOyU1j+JgpPLZnQjrAQGpeQP/QdwDE7oBMBj97lIJuUGBy/UqsGPR9Xc7 A7izbEplHuEi7wCErIxo0moKUPTgLAuo3xh6T0wHRjJ8VYRx3gfJ9jL25VldI/wk dFQ0iHfr7/6parD8sDF9tMVFAwQE4ACK8+2Bnl712Zt5aijK14J1K8Pr2oEfsTfN ZUCMF8RWigo= =dtvD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 14:27: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BF737B401; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:26:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5BLQpX50026; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:26:51 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:26:50 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: current@freebsd.org, brian@freebsd.org Subject: PPP modem dial is completely broken Message-ID: <20010612012649.C49698@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With new PPP I can't dial to my provider anymore. Two variants: 1) PPP says "Clearing choked output queue" and connection stuck forever with carrier on. Nothing else happens. 2) PPP says "Too many IPCP NAKs sent - abandoning negotiation" and drop carrier forever without further redialing. About months old PPP works fine with the same config. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 14:34:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0747737B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:34:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5BLYEl50142 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:34:15 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:34:12 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: msdosfs can't mount Extended partition. Any ideas? Message-ID: <20010612013412.D49698@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just found that msdosfs can't mount legal Extended partition because required info is few blocks later in that case, not immediately as for Primary partition. Is it known problem, or I am first who notice that? Does anybody have some fix for that? -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 14:40: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A436737B401; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f5BLe4910064; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5BLdwB18592; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:39:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106112139.f5BLdwB18592@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4+ 06/08/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Motoyuki Konno , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) In-Reply-To: <20010612011807.A49698@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010611161221.C34164@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111337.f5BDbCE30451@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611175041.A35687@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111551.f5BFpWE30649@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611201531.A38114@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111645.f5BGjNA08546@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010611211953.A39062@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111842.f5BIgRB13547@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010611230213.A47504@nagual.pp.ru> <200106112035.f5BKZdU17583@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010612011807.A49698@nagual.pp.ru> Comments: In-reply-to "Andrey A. Chernov" message dated "Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:18:08 +0400." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_169985180P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:39:58 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_169985180P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm going to respond to exactly one line of your email: > Fix RELNOTESng affected pathes to new scheme without MFCing This is the solution I am favoring, pending some discussion with nik. Please let me deal with it. Thanks. I am deliberately *not* responding to the remainder of this message, because my doing so would most likely not lead to a productive outcome. Bruce. --==_Exmh_169985180P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7JTqu2MoxcVugUsMRAkD7AKD3YpIs3NewGgnc2h7u0sULroLj4ACfZTy+ YphzDozD7R7eJppeZNsqz9o= =2seF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_169985180P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 15:56:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5189637B403; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:56:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5BMu2295366; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:56:02 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010612011807.A49698@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010611161221.C34164@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111337.f5BDbCE30451@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611175041.A35687@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111551.f5BFpWE30649@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20010611201531.A38114@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111645.f5BGjNA08546@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010611211953.A39062@nagual.pp.ru> <200106111842.f5BIgRB13547@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010611230213.A47504@nagual.pp.ru> <200106112035.f5BKZdU17583@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010612011807.A49698@nagual.pp.ru> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:56:00 -0400 To: "Andrey A. Chernov" , "Bruce A. Mah" From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) Cc: Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 1:18 AM +0400 6/12/01, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: >I understand now. That info you can provide from the beginning >to minimize messages exchange. I am open to discuss how to fix it. I think it is probably best to let Bruce Mah figure out why it has broken, and let him provide the best "immediate fix" for that problem. This is not a good time to start on some larger debate. Just let them fix it. >My suggestions are: > [...] >or > Backing out my doc/ changes. > (YES!!! I realy tired of amount of complaints given on > this technically simple issue from doc/ people. Nobody > can be 100% accurate. People are probably particularly sensitive to this change because it broke freebsd-stable. I realize you were not expecting any affect at all in freebsd-stable, but this area of the system is apparently set up in a way where it is not easy to make changes to "just freebsd-current" without some side-effects for freebsd- stable. Even if the change you MEANT to make is "technically simple", it is just a major hassle if freebsd-stable is broken. The fact that you didn't MEAN to break stable does not actually help anyone. As long as stable remains broken, then they still can not get on with their own work, and they will still be upset with you. It is not that everyone hates the specific change you were making, it is that everyone hates it when freebsd-stable can not be built. (SOME people may not like the specific change, but EVERYONE hates it when freebsd-stable is busted...) It also did not calm people down when you did not understand that they were complaining about freebsd-stable. The more you replied about freebsd-current, the more anxious and upset everyone will become. My hope is that Bruce (or Nik, or someone...) can also come up with a longer-term fix such that changes to RELNOTESng on freebsd-current will not break system builds on freebsd-stable. Since I am pretty useless when it comes to documentation (I am a systems-programmer after all :-), I'll let them worry about the details. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 16:33:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C277737B403; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:33:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5BNX6M74817; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:33:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B880390F; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:33:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Motoyuki Konno , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) In-Reply-To: <20010611211953.A39062@nagual.pp.ru> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:33:06 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010611233306.9B880390F@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:45:23 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > PDT". This was, er, let's see, about *two hours* later?!? > >=20 > > No wonder no one objected...I bet you were already finished before most= > =20 > > people read your heads-up message! Did you realistically think that a=20 > > two-hour advance notice on a weekend was sufficient? > > > There would have been less confusion if your heads-up had actually been= > =20 > > sent with enough advance warning that people would have actually *read*= > =20 > > it. > > I agree, but just imagine that I have assumption that Peter already > resolve this issue with Nick (since he do repo copy) and you'll find=20 > a reason to not be extra-cautious. I did the repo copy based on the information I had.. ie: you told me that this had all been discussed and I was left with the distinct impression that this was all settled. If you recall one of my emails on the subject, I asked you to make sure that the switchover in the doc/ tree was coordinated with nik. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 16:45:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2630537B409; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:45:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5BNjcw51935; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:45:38 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:45:36 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Peter Wemm Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Motoyuki Konno , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) Message-ID: <20010612034535.A51868@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010611211953.A39062@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611233306.9B880390F@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611233306.9B880390F@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@wemm.org on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 04:33:06PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 16:33:06 -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > I did the repo copy based on the information I had.. ie: you told me that > this had all been discussed and I was left with the distinct impression I say there that names change was discussed in i18n > that this was all settled. If you recall one of my emails on the subject, > I asked you to make sure that the switchover in the doc/ tree was > coordinated with nik. You say something like "needs to be coordinated with Nik" quoted with "Done" follows, which I treat like you coordinate this with Nik. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 17: 5:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B0037B405; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94513E0B; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:19 -0700 (PDT) To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, bmah@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) In-Reply-To: <20010611175041.A35687@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on "Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:50:43 +0400" Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:19 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010612000519.E94513E0B@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm picking a random message out of the thread to reply to, and as much as I hate contributing to a flame-war, this issue has not yet been mentioned. All the bickering about this not being discussed aside, fixing the relnotes isn't going to be the end of the story: the web site is broken. Well, sort of. It builds fine, but not in the right place. The URLs for the doc part of the web site correspond directly to the directories in the repository. E.g., we have URLs like this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/ With this change, the above turned into: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/ (The first URL still exists because the contents of the web site is never actually wiped; normally, it's just installed over.) This breaks *a lot* of links. Not only within the web site, but external links as well. This is, quite franky, unacceptable. Using symbolic links or HTTP redirects to remedy this is unsatisfying. We've had this discussion before, and symlinks are *evil* on web sites (just ask wosch), and HTTP redirects simply don't work for mirrors. At this point, I'd just like to hear what kind of solution you have for the above problem. We already changed most of the URLs some months ago; I don't think anybody wants to do it again. Regards, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org P.S. Some time ago, I heard someone say that any proposed change that creates work for or causes grief for a group of people should be communicated to that group of people *prior* to being enacted. (This isn't an official rule; I saw this on one of the lists.) This cosmetic (yes, I think removing an underscore is more cosmetic than it is technical) change certainly causes work for (e.g., bmah fixing relnotes) and grief for (just look at this thread) some people. It is akin to the /modules -> /boot/kernel switch; it's probably a good thing, but it affects so many people that one shouldn't simply do it on a whim. P.P.S. I apologize in advance if this e-mail offended anybody; that was certainly not my intention. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 17:21:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mk.bsdclub.org (adsl2073.ea.rim.or.jp [202.247.148.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0051437B403; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from motoyuki@mk.bsdclub.org) Received: from sakura.mk.bsdclub.org (sakura.mk.bsdclub.org [3ffe:505:2022:0:2a0:c9ff:fe20:9aff]) by mail.mk.bsdclub.org (8.11.3+3.4W/3.7W/smtpfeed 1.12) with ESMTP/inet6 id f5C0L8L05461; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:21:08 +0900 (JST) Received: from sakura.mk.bsdclub.org (localhost.mk.bsdclub.org [127.0.0.1]) by sakura.mk.bsdclub.org (8.11.3/3.7W) with ESMTP/inet id f5C0L8E31588; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:21:08 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200106120021.f5C0L8E31588@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: Peter Wemm , "Bruce A. Mah" , Motoyuki Konno , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) From: Motoyuki Konno X-Mailer: mh-e on Mule 2.3 / Emacs 19.34.1 References: <20010611211953.A39062@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611233306.9B880390F@overcee.netplex.com.au> <20010612034535.A51868@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:21:07 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 16:33:06 -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > > I did the repo copy based on the information I had.. ie: you told me that > > this had all been discussed and I was left with the distinct impression > > I say there that names change was discussed in i18n doc/ changes was not discussed in i18n at all. I think doc/ repo-copy is too early yet. 5-current still supports old (*.ISO_8859*) locale names. Most of FreeBSD users use -stable branch, which supports ONLY old locale names. On the other hand, doc/ uses new locale name. -stable users will be confused with this situation. So, we have to do at first is to decide whether or not to MFC the locale renaming to 4-stable (and 3-stable). repo-copy should be after MFC. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Motoyuki Konno motoyuki@bsdclub.org (Home) motoyuki@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Project) http://www.freebsd.org/~motoyuki/ (WWW) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 18:16:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACFB37B405; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:16:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27670; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:45:58 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010612012649.C49698@nagual.pp.ru> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:45:58 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Subject: RE: PPP modem dial is completely broken Cc: brian@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11-Jun-2001 Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > With new PPP I can't dial to my provider anymore. Two variants: > > 1) PPP says "Clearing choked output queue" and connection stuck forever > with carrier on. Nothing else happens. > > 2) PPP says "Too many IPCP NAKs sent - abandoning negotiation" and drop > carrier forever without further redialing. > > About months old PPP works fine with the same config. Is it a 'normal' modem, or a USB one? (Not that I have a solution either way, but the usb modem code is still a bit dodgy IMHO :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 19:47:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mugwump.hstn.tensor.pgs.com (mugwump.hstn.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.92.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E4B37B405 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:47:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shocking@hstn.tensor.pgs.com) Received: from hstn.tensor.pgs.com (shocking@localhost) by mugwump.hstn.tensor.pgs.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5C2kt114894 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:46:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200106120246.f5C2kt114894@mugwump.hstn.tensor.pgs.com> X-Authentication-Warning: mugwump.hstn.tensor.pgs.com: shocking owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3 01/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: What's happened to the generation of CTM? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:46:55 -0500 From: Steve Hocking Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I see that cvs-cur stuff hasn't been generated since the beginning of May - are there any planes to restart it? It was convenient having a local copy of the CVS repository on disk. Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of PGS Tensor. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 20:21:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragonstar.dhs.org (cc862238-a.nwhub1.in.home.com [24.22.251.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A38B37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:21:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (jonsmith@localhost) by dragonstar.dhs.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5C3L5l00648 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:21:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:21:05 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Smith To: current@freebsd.org Subject: UDMA interfering with install Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Unfortunately, the UDMA chipset on my ASUS P5A doesn't work well with Western Vegetable drives.... So, I need to forcibly sysctl it into pio mode. Is there *any* way to do this from sysinstall on the 5.0-200105250-CURRENT (or later snap on current.freebsd.org) floppy bootup? Thanks.... j. -- When you get the choice to sit it out or dance, I hope you dance -- I Hope You Dance, Lee Ann Womack Jon C.: [Microsoft] pops up all over the place Jon S.: Like a Virus -- From an online discussion one night Jon Smith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 20:32:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779A137B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:32:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17363; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:31:48 +1000 (EST) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37645) with ESMTP id <01K4OJ3X9US0VNYQ5L@cim.alcatel.com.au>; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:31:50 +1000 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5C3Vic99052; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:31:44 +1000 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:31:43 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: What's happened to the generation of CTM? In-reply-to: <200106120246.f5C2kt114894@mugwump.hstn.tensor.pgs.com>; from shocking@hstn.tensor.pgs.com on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:46:55PM -0500 To: Steve Hocking Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: Steve Hocking , current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20010612133143.T95583@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <200106120246.f5C2kt114894@mugwump.hstn.tensor.pgs.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-Jun-11 21:46:55 -0500, Steve Hocking wrote: >I see that cvs-cur stuff hasn't been generated since the beginning of May - cvs-cur _is_ being generated[1], it just not being mirrored on ftp.freebsd.org at present. When I asked Jordan about it after his "ftp.freebsd.org is back" announcement, he indicated that CTM is one of the still-outstanding problems. [1] Well, it died last weekend, but hopefully that will be restored shortly. Petre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 21:15:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mk.bsdclub.org (adsl2073.ea.rim.or.jp [202.247.148.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD8A37B403; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:15:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from motoyuki@mk.bsdclub.org) Received: from sakura.mk.bsdclub.org (sakura.mk.bsdclub.org [3ffe:505:2022:0:2a0:c9ff:fe20:9aff]) by mail.mk.bsdclub.org (8.11.3+3.4W/3.7W/smtpfeed 1.12) with ESMTP/inet6 id f5C4FFL15692; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:15:15 +0900 (JST) Received: from sakura.mk.bsdclub.org (localhost.mk.bsdclub.org [127.0.0.1]) by sakura.mk.bsdclub.org (8.11.3/3.7W) with ESMTP/inet id f5C4FFE31990; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:15:15 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200106120415.f5C4FFE31990@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> To: Dima Dorfman Cc: "Andrey A. Chernov" , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc) From: Motoyuki Konno X-Mailer: mh-e on Mule 2.3 / Emacs 19.34.1 References: <20010612000519.E94513E0B@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:15:15 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dima Dorfman wrote: > (The first URL still exists because the contents of the web site is > never actually wiped; normally, it's just installed over.) This > breaks *a lot* of links. Not only within the web site, but external > links as well. This is, quite franky, unacceptable. Using symbolic > links or HTTP redirects to remedy this is unsatisfying. We've had > this discussion before, and symlinks are *evil* on web sites (just ask > wosch), and HTTP redirects simply don't work for mirrors. > > At this point, I'd just like to hear what kind of solution you have > for the above problem. We already changed most of the URLs some > months ago; I don't think anybody wants to do it again. Hmm. I think we'd better back out the repo-copy and changes as soon as possible. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Motoyuki Konno motoyuki@bsdclub.org (Home) motoyuki@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Project) http://www.freebsd.org/~motoyuki/ (WWW) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 22:28: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B7837B409 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:27:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA24001; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:27:39 +1000 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:25:27 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: msdosfs can't mount Extended partition. Any ideas? In-Reply-To: <20010612013412.D49698@nagual.pp.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > I just found that msdosfs can't mount legal Extended partition because > required info is few blocks later in that case, not immediately as for > Primary partition. Is it known problem, or I am first who notice > that? Does anybody have some fix for that? Extended partititons aren't mountable (even under DOS/Windows), since they are just containers for logical drives (and further extended partitions). Just mount the logical drive (slice) that you want. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 22:50:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B9837B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:50:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id HAA14190; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:50:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5C5Wva02805; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:32:57 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from j) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:32:57 +0200 From: Joerg Wunsch To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization Message-ID: <20010612073257.B2752@uriah.heep.sax.de> Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch References: <20010610163853.A1166@nagual.pp.ru> <200106101537.f5AFavo33433@mail.uic-in.net> <200106102136.f5ALawu94200@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611020547.A1379@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611082525.F94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611160108.A34164@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611212016.K94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611233423.A48057@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611235223.A48405@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010611235223.A48405@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:52:23PM +0400 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > I.e. theoretically right now we can reduce locale names to two > components (language and territory) since we have in -current (but > not in -stable) nl_langinfo(CODESET), but not to one component > (language) since there is no standard function to get territory. I thought of two components, like ru_RU, en_US, or de_DE. AFAICT, that's the common practice i've seen in the other Unices. > But then we need to rewrite all old programs which parse LANG > directly to use nl_langinfo(CODESET). I didn't know that programs parse the name of the locale directly, i always thought they just use the contents of files pointed to by this name (under /usr/share/locale/), i. e. the actual local name would be opaque to the application. Do you have an example of a program parsing the name? I can't imagine right now who does it and why... Apart from that, those old applications would fall over the locale name change anyway (e. g. they expect "de_DE.ISO_8859-1" but find "de_DE.ISO8859-1" which they are not prepared to handle), so that's really a good reason to introduce the lang_TERRITORY shorthands by the same time (i'm speaking of -current only!). -- cheers, J"org .-.-. --... ...-- -.. . DL8DTL http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 22:51: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4218237B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:50:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5C5oXP85193; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:50:33 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from jhay) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200106120550.f5C5oXP85193@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: UDMA interfering with install In-Reply-To: from Jonathan Smith at "Jun 11, 2001 10:21:05 pm" To: jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:50:33 +0200 (SAT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Unfortunately, the UDMA chipset on my ASUS P5A doesn't work well with > Western Vegetable drives.... So, I need to forcibly sysctl it into pio > mode. Is there *any* way to do this from sysinstall on the > 5.0-200105250-CURRENT (or later snap on current.freebsd.org) floppy > bootup? Well I don't know of a way to do it in sysinstall, but here is the way I did it a few days ago: Boot your machine with the install floppies and when it gives the message: Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. press any other key to get to the loader prompt. Then type: set hw.ata.ata_dma=0 boot Then just go through the normal installation procedure. When you are finished with the installation and the machine reboots, break at the loader prompt again and do the same thing. After that login and add the next line to /boot/loader.conf hw.ata.ata_dma=0 Now you should be set. :-) John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 22:57:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragonstar.dhs.org (cc862238-a.nwhub1.in.home.com [24.22.251.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B7237B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (jonsmith@localhost) by dragonstar.dhs.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5C5vUM00904; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:57:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:57:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Smith To: John Hay Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UDMA interfering with install In-Reply-To: <200106120550.f5C5oXP85193@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That's good enough. :) Thanks.... Maybe _that_ will keep that ata code from over-riding the bios to disable dma (or maybe the bios just wasn't doing it's job right ;) j. -- When you get the choice to sit it out or dance, I hope you dance -- I Hope You Dance, Lee Ann Womack Jon C.: [Microsoft] pops up all over the place Jon S.: Like a Virus -- From an online discussion one night Jon Smith On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, John Hay wrote: > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:50:33 +0200 (SAT) > From: John Hay > To: Jonathan Smith > Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: UDMA interfering with install > > > > > Unfortunately, the UDMA chipset on my ASUS P5A doesn't work well with > > Western Vegetable drives.... So, I need to forcibly sysctl it into pio > > mode. Is there *any* way to do this from sysinstall on the > > 5.0-200105250-CURRENT (or later snap on current.freebsd.org) floppy > > bootup? > > Well I don't know of a way to do it in sysinstall, but here is the way > I did it a few days ago: > > Boot your machine with the install floppies and when it gives the message: > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > > press any other key to get to the loader prompt. Then type: > > set hw.ata.ata_dma=0 > boot > > Then just go through the normal installation procedure. When you are > finished with the installation and the machine reboots, break at the > loader prompt again and do the same thing. After that login and add > the next line to /boot/loader.conf > > hw.ata.ata_dma=0 > > Now you should be set. :-) > > John > -- > John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 12 1: 3:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1EE37B409; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:03:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5C837Y56254; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:03:07 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:03:07 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: brian@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP modem dial is completely broken Message-ID: <20010612120307.A56159@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010612012649.C49698@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from doconnor@gsoft.com.au on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:45:58AM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:45:58 +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On 11-Jun-2001 Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > With new PPP I can't dial to my provider anymore. Two variants: > > > > 1) PPP says "Clearing choked output queue" and connection stuck forever > > with carrier on. Nothing else happens. > > > > 2) PPP says "Too many IPCP NAKs sent - abandoning negotiation" and drop > > carrier forever without further redialing. > > > > About months old PPP works fine with the same config. > > Is it a 'normal' modem, or a USB one? Normal one external modem. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 12 1: 8:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD2137B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:08:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5C88ML56281; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:08:22 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:08:22 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Bruce Evans Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: msdosfs can't mount Extended partition. Any ideas? Message-ID: <20010612120822.B56159@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010612013412.D49698@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from bde@zeta.org.au on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 03:25:27PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 15:25:27 +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > > I just found that msdosfs can't mount legal Extended partition because > > required info is few blocks later in that case, not immediately as for > > Primary partition. Is it known problem, or I am first who notice > > that? Does anybody have some fix for that? > > Extended partititons aren't mountable (even under DOS/Windows), since they > are just containers for logical drives (and further extended partitions). > Just mount the logical drive (slice) that you want. Where is such slice then? I have ad0s1 for FreeBSD, ad0s2 for Primary and ad0s3 for Extended container of logical drive. Real fat32 code started in ad0s3 a bit later, but I don't have a device name to mount it (or I miss something). -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 12 1:47:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sol.serv.u-szeged.hu (sol.serv.u-szeged.hu [160.114.51.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54D037B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:47:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.serv.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id KAA18358; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:47:47 +0200 (MEST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 159jpv-00064N-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:47:43 +0200 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:47:43 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: msdosfs can't mount Extended partition. Any ideas? Message-ID: <20010612104743.A18309@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: Szilveszter Adam , current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010612013412.D49698@nagual.pp.ru> <20010612120822.B56159@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010612120822.B56159@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:08:22PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Ache, On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:08:22PM +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 15:25:27 +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > > > > I just found that msdosfs can't mount legal Extended partition because > > > required info is few blocks later in that case, not immediately as for > > > Primary partition. Is it known problem, or I am first who notice > > > that? Does anybody have some fix for that? > > > > Extended partititons aren't mountable (even under DOS/Windows), since they > > are just containers for logical drives (and further extended partitions). > > Just mount the logical drive (slice) that you want. > > Where is such slice then? I have ad0s1 for FreeBSD, ad0s2 for Primary and > ad0s3 for Extended container of logical drive. Real fat32 code started in > ad0s3 a bit later, but I don't have a device name to mount it (or I miss > something). Well, hm this is even in the FAQ: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#MOUNT-DOS (Question 7.8: How do I mount a secondary DOS partition?) In your situation I would try ad0s5 and onwards. If you do not have the device node under /dev, so create it:-) (No worries I have also forgotten how to do such mounts on occasion before:-) -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 12 2: 1:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF6C37B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5C916l56970; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:01:07 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:01:02 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Szilveszter Adam Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: msdosfs can't mount Extended partition. Any ideas? Message-ID: <20010612130101.A56905@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010612013412.D49698@nagual.pp.ru> <20010612120822.B56159@nagual.pp.ru> <20010612104743.A18309@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010612104743.A18309@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>; from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:47:43AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:47:43 +0200, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > > In your situation I would try ad0s5 and onwards. If you do not have the > device node under /dev, so create it:-) (No worries I have also forgotten > how to do such mounts on occasion before:-) Thanks, it works. I was confused by 'devfs' this time which not show ad0s5 slice under /dev until it is actualy mounted. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 12 2: 5: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sol.serv.u-szeged.hu (sol.serv.u-szeged.hu [160.114.51.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0BE37B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:05:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.serv.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id LAA20848; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:05:05 +0200 (MEST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 159k6i-0006D3-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:05:04 +0200 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:05:04 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: msdosfs can't mount Extended partition. Any ideas? Message-ID: <20010612110504.B18309@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: Szilveszter Adam , current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010612013412.D49698@nagual.pp.ru> <20010612120822.B56159@nagual.pp.ru> <20010612104743.A18309@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20010612130101.A56905@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010612130101.A56905@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 01:01:02PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 01:01:02PM +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:47:43 +0200, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > > > > In your situation I would try ad0s5 and onwards. If you do not have the > > device node under /dev, so create it:-) (No worries I have also forgotten > > how to do such mounts on occasion before:-) > > Thanks, it works. I was confused by 'devfs' this time which not show ad0s5 > slice under /dev until it is actualy mounted. Yes, devfs really takes some getting used to in the beginning, at least it has for me:-) -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 12 2:15:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCC537B409 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:15:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5C9FTM76521 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:15:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB05390F; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:15:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Peter Jeremy Cc: Steve Hocking , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What's happened to the generation of CTM? In-Reply-To: <20010612133143.T95583@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:15:29 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010612091529.4AB05390F@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2001-Jun-11 21:46:55 -0500, Steve Hocking w rote: > >I see that cvs-cur stuff hasn't been generated since the beginning of May - > > cvs-cur _is_ being generated[1], it just not being mirrored on > ftp.freebsd.org at present. When I asked Jordan about it after > his "ftp.freebsd.org is back" announcement, he indicated that > CTM is one of the still-outstanding problems. > > [1] Well, it died last weekend, but hopefully that will be restored > shortly. Well, the person to talk to about that right now is me since I've got the care/feeding hat for ftp-master on at the moment. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 12 2:36:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C4937B405; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:36:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5C9ZXA57261; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:35:33 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:35:32 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization Message-ID: <20010612133532.B56905@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010610163853.A1166@nagual.pp.ru> <200106101537.f5AFavo33433@mail.uic-in.net> <200106102136.f5ALawu94200@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611020547.A1379@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611082525.F94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611160108.A34164@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611212016.K94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611233423.A48057@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611235223.A48405@nagual.pp.ru> <20010612073257.B2752@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010612073257.B2752@uriah.heep.sax.de>; from j@uriah.heep.sax.de on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 07:32:57AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 07:32:57 +0200, Joerg Wunsch wrote: > I thought of two components, like ru_RU, en_US, or de_DE. AFAICT, > that's the common practice i've seen in the other Unices. Lets swith to i18n list, I Cc: here first time to notice -current readers. > > But then we need to rewrite all old programs which parse LANG > > directly to use nl_langinfo(CODESET). > > I didn't know that programs parse the name of the locale directly, i > always thought they just use the contents of files pointed to by this > name (under /usr/share/locale/), i. e. the actual local name would be > opaque to the application. > Do you have an example of a program parsing the name? I can't imagine > right now who does it and why... I can't remember much of them at this moment, but here are few examples: Look at libreadline code in contrib f.e. Current readline version not apply locale name parsing if setlocale() present, but old one do it. Readline use it to determine that codeset is 8bit, I saw other usages too. Moreover, all perl scripts parsing LANG are automatically affected (i.e. can't get codeset) because there is no nl_langinfo() in perl5 at all. Example: catman (our) Moreover, all shell scripts parsing LANG are affected, the same. Example: neqn, nroff (3rd party) Since there is no internal nl_langinfo() in shell/perl, external binary utility must be used to pick codeset, commonly it is: locale charmap call. We don't have this utility, so I object to short names until it will be present (maybe in reduced to charmap arg only form, as call to nl_langinfo(CODESET)). > Apart from that, those old applications would fall over the locale > name change anyway (e. g. they expect "de_DE.ISO_8859-1" but find > "de_DE.ISO8859-1" which they are not prepared to handle), so that's > really a good reason to introduce the lang_TERRITORY shorthands by the > same time (i'm speaking of -current only!). Most of parsing code compact codeset first, i.e. remove all "_" and "-" characters from codeset, lowercase it, then compare. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 12 2:40:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119EB37B405 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:40:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5C9eJM76583 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE66390F for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: hints implementation repairs in -current! Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:40:19 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010612094019.7FE66390F@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The potential for breakage is there, but I've tested just about everything I can think of for now. Ideally there should not be any user visible differences. In a nutshell: - several poorly thought out API's for doing some stuff that cam etc needed has been removed with extreme prejudice (resource_locate() and resource_query_*() etc) and replaced with resource_find_*() which are a lot cleaner and more flexible. Use of these was quite minimal fortunately. - the backing databases are now the raw string tables. This means we can get access to the hints well before malloc() is running. - resource_get_*() is unchanged, but the implementation is a LOT better, for example, if you ask for the value of "hint.foo.0.bar=1" as a string, you will get a string "1" instead of an EINVAL. If you ask for it as an integer you will get the integer 1. This eliminates the evil heuristics to try and guess what was a string and what was an integer. - resource_set_*() is currently broken. For now, use 'set' and 'show' at the command line to change device wiring instead of userconfig. Note that you can override static fallback hints. This needs a working setenv() for the kernel, should anybody feel energetic. - because of resource_set_(), this means that old style 'sensitive' isa drivers cannot set their 'sensitive' flag. This affects: "rdp" What could go wrong? I have had a couple of infinite loops that were caused by mistakes during the API conversion, that I have since fixed. I dont believe there are any more. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 12 3: 6:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16FC37B407 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:06:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA23328; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:06:14 +1000 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:04:02 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: msdosfs can't mount Extended partition. Any ideas? In-Reply-To: <20010612120822.B56159@nagual.pp.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 15:25:27 +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > > > > I just found that msdosfs can't mount legal Extended partition because > > > required info is few blocks later in that case, not immediately as for > > > Primary partition. Is it known problem, or I am first who notice > > > that? Does anybody have some fix for that? > > > > Extended partititons aren't mountable (even under DOS/Windows), since they > > are just containers for logical drives (and further extended partitions). > > Just mount the logical drive (slice) that you want. > > Where is such slice then? I have ad0s1 for FreeBSD, ad0s2 for Primary and > ad0s3 for Extended container of logical drive. Real fat32 code started in > ad0s3 a bit later, but I don't have a device name to mount it (or I miss > something). Logical drives within extended partitions start at slice 5. These slices are not created by default by MAKEDEV. devfs should create them in -current. I'm not sure if it creates them before they are looked at using stat() or open(). Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 12 3: 7:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1070237B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:07:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (kuriyama@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5CA7nf48764 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:07:49 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:07:44 +0900 Message-ID: <7mg0d6m2of.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Current Subject: handle_written_filepage: active pagedep User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I updated my notebook today and I got some messages on my console. handle_written_filepage: active pagedep handle_written_filepage: active pagedep handle_written_filepage: active pagedep ... Can I ignore these messages? Or something wrong in sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c? -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 12 3:14:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DCB37B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:14:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5CAEHG57673; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:14:17 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:14:16 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: Current Subject: Re: handle_written_filepage: active pagedep Message-ID: <20010612141415.A57652@nagual.pp.ru> References: <7mg0d6m2of.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <7mg0d6m2of.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 07:07:44PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 19:07:44 +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > I updated my notebook today and I got some messages on my console. > > handle_written_filepage: active pagedep > handle_written_filepage: active pagedep > handle_written_filepage: active pagedep > ... I can confirm that I saw them too with recent kernel -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 12 4: 4:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425AB37B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:04:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (kuriyama@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5CB4kf49602; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:04:48 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:04:41 +0900 Message-ID: <7mae3em01i.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Current Cc: Kirk McKusick Subject: Re: handle_written_filepage: active pagedep In-Reply-To: <7mg0d6m2of.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> References: <7mg0d6m2of.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got panic with recently updated box. Brief trackback is here: panic() deallocate_dependencies() softdep_setup_freeblocks() ffs_truncate() handle_workitem_remove() softdep_setup_remove() ufs_dirremove() ufs_rmdir() ufs_vnoperate() rmdir() syscall() syscall_with_err_pushed() -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 12 4:29:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ada.eu.org (marvin.enst.fr [137.194.161.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B0137B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:29:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@inf.enst.fr) Received: by ada.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id DD3FC190A1; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:29:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by trillian.rfc1149.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AEBE7BBAE; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:28:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Draft-From: ("mail.list.freebsd.current" 35) To: Warner Losh Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCCARD and -current References: <2001-06-10-21-10-52+trackit+sam@inf.enst.fr> <992179431.3b2374e7ab8a8@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> <200106091315.f59DFPW15949@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <200106100140.f5A1egl17676@billy-club.village.org> <200106101846.f5AIkSl21015@billy-club.village.org> <200106102313.f5AND5V60475@harmony.village.org> Date: 12 Jun 2001 13:28:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200106102313.f5AND5V60475@harmony.village.org> (Warner Losh's message of "Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:13:05 -0600") Lines: 103 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.1 (Channel Islands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" From: Samuel Tardieu Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications Reply-To: Samuel Tardieu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-WWW: http://www.rfc1149.net/sam X-Mail-Processing: Sam's procmail tools X-ICQ: 21547599 X-Sam-Laptop: yes Message-Id: <2001-06-12-13-28-55+trackit+sam@inf.enst.fr> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==-=-= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> "Warner" =3D=3D Warner Losh writes: Warner> In summary: Warner> o Use the same config file you used before. Warner> o Update pccardd Warner> o Add "-I -i 9" to pccardd_flags (if your pcic's irq is 9). Warner> o rebuild and reinstall the kernel. Warner> o reboot. Send your panics to me. :-) I just did that. I got a panic, which I could not save (I cannot panic From=20ddb, it just doesn't work). ddb reports the faulty process as being ddb, and it relates to "trap 12 being called ..." (I don't remember the exact message unfortunately, I should find a null cable and use gdb). Here is my latest dmesg in case you see something wrong. The pcic irq is 9 here, right? Sam =2D-=20 Samuel Tardieu -- sam@inf.enst.fr --=-=-= Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #8: Tue Jun 12 11:40:44 CEST 2001 root@trillian.enst.fr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TRILLIAN Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (645.20-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x683 Stepping =3D 3 Features=3D0x383f9ff real memory =3D 134152192 (131008K bytes) avail memory =3D 126197760 (123240K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0437000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled Using $PIR table, 7 entries at 0xc00fdf50 apm0: on motherboard apm0: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboa= rd pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfcb0-0xfcbf at device 7.1 on= pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xfc60-0xfc7f at devi= ce 7.2 on pci0 pci_cfgintr_unique: hard-routed to irq 9 pci_cfgintr: 0:7 INTD routed to irq 9 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ums0: Logitech USB Mouse, rev 1.10/4.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. pci0: at 7.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at 8.0 (no driver attached) pcm0: mem 0xfecf0000-0xfecf7fff irq 9 at device 9.0= on pci0 pci0: at 10.0 (no driver attached) fxp0: port 0xfcc0-0xfcff mem 0xfed00000-0= xfedfffff,0xfecff000-0xfecfffff irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 08:00:46:0c:b4:c7 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci_cfgintr_unique: hard-routed to irq 9 pci_cfgintr: 0:12 INTA routed to irq 9 pcic0: irq 9 at device 12.0 on pci0 pcic0: PCI Memory allocated: 0x44000000 pccard0: on pcic0 pci0: at 13.0 (no driver attached) orm0:
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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 13 22:37:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tokyogw.iij.ad.jp (tokyogw.iij.ad.jp [202.232.15.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CA737B408 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:37:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shigeru@iij.ad.jp) Received: by tokyogw.iij.ad.jp; id OAA16606; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:37:33 +0900 (JST) From: Received: from mercury.iij.ad.jp(192.168.4.89) by tokyogw.iij.ad.jp via smap (V4.2) id xma016531; Thu, 14 Jun 01 14:37:27 +0900 Received: from localhost (shigeru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.iij.ad.jp (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02593; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:37:21 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:37:15 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010614.143715.110847928.shigeru@iij.ad.jp> To: imp@harmony.village.org Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCCARD and -current In-Reply-To: <200106102313.f5AND5V60475@harmony.village.org> References: <200106100140.f5A1egl17676@billy-club.village.org> <200106101846.f5AIkSl21015@billy-club.village.org> <200106102313.f5AND5V60475@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b102 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="--Next_Part(Thu_Jun_14_14:37:15_2001_123)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----Next_Part(Thu_Jun_14_14:37:15_2001_123)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I make a short patch to sharing IRQ between a PCIC and a PC Card when using PCI IRQ routing. #Does this patch help you? ------- YAMAMOTO Shigeru Internet Initiative Japan Inc. Network Engineering Div. ----Next_Part(Thu_Jun_14_14:37:15_2001_123)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="pcic.diff" Index: pcic.c =================================================================== RCS file: /share/cvsup/FreeBSD/current/usr/src/sys/pccard/pcic.c,v retrieving revision 1.141 diff -u -r1.141 pcic.c --- pcic.c 2001/06/04 03:29:06 1.141 +++ pcic.c 2001/06/13 04:18:17 @@ -805,8 +805,13 @@ /* * If we're routing via pci, we can share. */ - if (sc->func_route == pci_parallel && type == SYS_RES_IRQ) + if (sc->func_route == pci_parallel && type == SYS_RES_IRQ) { flags |= RF_SHAREABLE; + if (sc->irqres) { + start = rman_get_start(sc->irqres); + end = rman_get_start(sc->irqres); + } + } return (bus_generic_alloc_resource(dev, child, type, rid, start, end, count, flags)); Index: pcic_pci.c =================================================================== RCS file: /share/cvsup/FreeBSD/current/usr/src/sys/pccard/pcic_pci.c,v retrieving revision 1.48 diff -u -r1.48 pcic_pci.c --- pcic_pci.c 2001/06/09 07:34:17 1.48 +++ pcic_pci.c 2001/06/13 04:26:52 @@ -446,9 +446,10 @@ sc->flags = PCIC_PD_POWER; num6729++; } else { + device_printf(dev, "MEMORY mapped device!\n"); sc->memrid = CB_PCI_SOCKET_BASE; sc->memres = bus_alloc_resource(dev, SYS_RES_MEMORY, - &sc->memrid, 0, ~0, 1, RF_ACTIVE); + &sc->memrid, 0, ~0, 0x1000, RF_ACTIVE); if (sc->memres == NULL && pcic_pci_get_memory(dev) != 0) return (ENOMEM); sp->getb = pcic_pci_getb2; ----Next_Part(Thu_Jun_14_14:37:15_2001_123)---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 13 22:49:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4DA37B43E for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:49:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5E5nGV10876; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:49:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200106140549.f5E5nGV10876@harmony.village.org> To: shigeru@iij.ad.jp Subject: Re: PCCARD and -current Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:37:15 +0900." <20010614.143715.110847928.shigeru@iij.ad.jp> References: <20010614.143715.110847928.shigeru@iij.ad.jp> <200106100140.f5A1egl17676@billy-club.village.org> <200106101846.f5AIkSl21015@billy-club.village.org> <200106102313.f5AND5V60475@harmony.village.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:49:16 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20010614.143715.110847928.shigeru@iij.ad.jp> shigeru@iij.ad.jp writes: : I make a short patch to sharing IRQ between a PCIC and a PC Card when using : PCI IRQ routing. : #Does this patch help you? Yes. It does. Thank you! Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 13 23: 0:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E8A37B401 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:00:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5E60FV10994; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:00:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200106140600.f5E60FV10994@harmony.village.org> To: Bruce Evans Subject: Re: msdosfs can't mount Extended partition. Any ideas? Cc: Szilveszter Adam , current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:05:37 +1000." References: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:00:15 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Bruce Evans writes: : The first "ls" should create about 8000 new tun devices by first accessing : them via stat(2), but there is some garbage collection, so the second "ls" : may show that some of the devices have magically unappeared. I just want to see the disk slices that are availabe. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 13 23:26:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net (johnson.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2CF37B405 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:26:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.247.142.175.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.247.142.175]) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA32048; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B28590F.E8930BB7@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:26:23 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Smith Cc: John Hay , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UDMA interfering with install References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathan Smith wrote: > > That's good enough. :) Thanks.... > > Maybe _that_ will keep that ata code from over-riding > the bios to disable dma (or maybe the bios just wasn't > doing it's job right ;) This won't work. Someone was having the same problem the other day, and I suggested the same soloution, but after probe, the damn driver enabled UDMA at attach time anyway. So we removed it from the kernel config... and the damn thing enabled it again. I don't know if the #ifdef was intended to only guard in the boot case, but it doesn't help, because there are several missign guards around the code, if that's the case, and at least four places in the code ignore the tuning variable, as well, if it isn't commented out of the kernel at build time (thus disabling one of the places). Look for the #ifdef, and then look for the function call to do the enable, and the problem will be obvious. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 13 23:49:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (fw-rl0.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48B637B401 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:49:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5E6mpN55647; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:48:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <200106140648.f5E6mpN55647@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: UDMA interfering with install In-Reply-To: <3B28590F.E8930BB7@mindspring.com> "from Terry Lambert at Jun 13, 2001 11:26:23 pm" To: tlambert2@mindspring.com Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:48:05 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Jonathan Smith , John Hay , current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Terry Lambert wrote: > Jonathan Smith wrote: > > > > That's good enough. :) Thanks.... > > > > Maybe _that_ will keep that ata code from over-riding > > the bios to disable dma (or maybe the bios just wasn't > > doing it's job right ;) > > This won't work. > > Someone was having the same problem the other day, and > I suggested the same soloution, but after probe, the > damn driver enabled UDMA at attach time anyway. Just set hw.ata.ata_dma="0" in /boot/loader.conf and it will not enabled DMA.. > So we removed it from the kernel config... and the damn > thing enabled it again. There is nothing in the config file that affects DMA... > I don't know if the #ifdef was intended to only guard > in the boot case, but it doesn't help, because there > are several missign guards around the code, if that's > the case, and at least four places in the code ignore > the tuning variable, as well, if it isn't commented > out of the kernel at build time (thus disabling one of > the places). > > Look for the #ifdef, and then look for the function > call to do the enable, and the problem will be obvious. You lost me here, what version of FreeBSD are we talking about ? I thought it was 4.3 but that doesn't contain any ifdef's about DMA at all.... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 13 23:50:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6379C37B405 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:49:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5E6mhZ52549; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:48:43 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from jhay) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200106140648.f5E6mhZ52549@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: UDMA interfering with install In-Reply-To: <3B28590F.E8930BB7@mindspring.com> from Terry Lambert at "Jun 13, 2001 11:26:23 pm" To: tlambert2@mindspring.com Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:48:43 +0200 (SAT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > That's good enough. :) Thanks.... > > > > Maybe _that_ will keep that ata code from over-riding > > the bios to disable dma (or maybe the bios just wasn't > > doing it's job right ;) > > > This won't work. What do you mean with this? The procedure that I described (barring typos) do work here and was used here to install and run FreeBSD on a silly A+ motherboard. Without disabling the DMA the install would fail and even if I installed with DMA disabled, but rebooted afterwards with DMA enabled, it would corrupt the filesystem to an almost unusable state. > > Someone was having the same problem the other day, and > I suggested the same soloution, but after probe, the > damn driver enabled UDMA at attach time anyway. > > So we removed it from the kernel config... and the damn > thing enabled it again. > > I don't know if the #ifdef was intended to only guard > in the boot case, but it doesn't help, because there > are several missign guards around the code, if that's > the case, and at least four places in the code ignore > the tuning variable, as well, if it isn't commented > out of the kernel at build time (thus disabling one of > the places). > > Look for the #ifdef, and then look for the function > call to do the enable, and the problem will be obvious. I'm not sure where the #ifdef comes into play. I didn't even recompile anything, so whatever #ifdef can be whatever it likes to be. Jun 5 18:42:51 d-5-71 /boot/kernel/kernel: ad0: 4104MB [8896/15/63] at ata0-master PIO4 John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 1: 3:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB2237B40A; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:02:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.247.142.175.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.247.142.175]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA30648; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 04:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B286FC1.5C112A5C@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:03:13 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bosko Milekic Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New SMP Mbuf Allocator (PATCH and TESTING request) References: <20010613010744.A4083@technokratis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bosko Milekic wrote: > I plan to commit the new bits within the next week. > However, as is usually the case with commits of this magnitude, > I'd like a few more tests to be run by a few more people. > I've been testing the allocator myself (in several different > ways, mainly resource exhaustion simulations) for the past > couple of weeks and have been able to catch and fix a couple > of bugs. > Also, jake, jlemon, and Silby (Mike Silbersack) have > provided me with some reviews, all of which have been integrated > into the latest version of the patch (below). A general comment, and then a comment on the patch: I would like to see this code be optional, until such time as benchmarks have proven it to be better than the existing code, or have proben it to be worse. Diking out the existing code, and forcing it to be diked out by making unnecessary function name changes seems to me to be a problem. Overall, I like the idea of moving towards a Dynix allocator type model to support many processors (not just 4) well, but I'm leery of many of the changes, particularly in light of the claim that "It has been established that we do not benefit from different locks for different objects, so we use the same lock, regardless of object type". On to the specific comments... I have addressed them in patch order, so that they can be read side-by-side: -- The "npg" calculation has always been incorrect for large memory systems with non-sparse physical maps, and now it is much worse. I commented on this before in -arch. Consider the case of a machine with 4G of physical memory. -- Is the policy two line or 4 line license, these days? -- The MBALLOC_CPU stuff should be more dynamic; it appears that the real number of CPUs is known at the time the allocations take place. -- I think you should spin, and only block if you don't get the spin lock after several attempts. The Solaris tradeoff in this regard is 10 attempts. Direct blocking on the cv seems a little wasteful. -- I'm not sure why you mutex the per-CPU containers? Aren't they, by definition, per-CPU, and therefore immune from contention? -- You realize that there is a dependency on MAXFILES, right? Specifically, there is an mbuf allocated per open socket for the tcptmpl (even though it only needs 60 bytes). --- If you fix the tcptmpl allocation, a couple of additional issues arise: 1) Since the allocations are in page-units, you will end up with a lot of waste. 2) Allocation in page units will make it hard to give 60 byte allocations back to the system. 3) The allocator is not really general enough for this (or for things like TIME_WAIT zombie structs, etc.). 4) Yeah, this sort of also implies that mbuf cluster headers come from a seperate pool, instead of being 256 bytes as well... -- Why do you lock around things in mb_init()? It's never called twice, let alone reentrantly... the code will be done before an AP is allowed to run. Alpha has this same restriction, from what I can see from the code. -- Dropping the lock in mb_pop_cont() seems wrong; I guess you are avoiding sleeping with the lock held? I don't think you need to worry (per-CPU, again), unless you later attempt lazy repopulation; it seems to me that the lock that should be held is a global lock, to prevent reentrancy on the global memory pool, and the malloc() code does that. Perhaps I'm missing something here. -- The ability to specify a "how" that implies an unwillingness to block implies interrupt allocation; yet you can't support this, since you do not preallocate a kernel map (ala the zone allocator). The zone allocator is actually very misleading, in that some of it's code never has the values it implies that it might have; in particular, there are functions which are passed parameters which can't really be variant, as implied by the use of per zone variables as arguments. -- Ah. I see why all the locks: mb_alloc_wait attempts to be a primitive reclaimer. You would do much better with a per-CPU high-watermark reclaim at free(), I think, instead of doing this. Really, you are in a starvation condition because of your load, and not because someone is "hogging already free mbufs", I think. This is probably premature optimization. -- In the starvation case during a free, I don't think you really care, except perhaps to adjust the high/low watermarks. An interesting issue here is that the average TCP window size will end up being 16k, which comes out to 4 1-page buckets (2, on Alpha), where you end up with multiple buckets and many mbufs (64) per, so freeing isn't really an option, if you are sending lots of data (serving content). It would be different for a desktop system, since the receive interrupt might come to any idle CPU. -- I like the cleanup via the use of local macros. -- I think the m_getclr -> m_get_clrd change is gratuitous. -- I like the "only" comment claifications. -- I dislike the bloating of one line comments into three lines, with the first and last blank. -- You could resolve the statistics problems by keeping them on a per-CPU basis, and then agregating them under a general system lock, when necessary (when they were requested). -- Most of the header definition changes for function declarations are gratuitous. -- Don't really care about netstat stuff... -- -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 1: 6:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B6337B405 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:06:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5E8GrJ07892; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:16:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200106140816.f5E8GrJ07892@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Warner Losh Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: msdosfs can't mount Extended partition. Any ideas? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:00:15 MDT." <200106140600.f5E60FV10994@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:16:53 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In message Bruce Evans writes: > : The first "ls" should create about 8000 new tun devices by first accessing > : them via stat(2), but there is some garbage collection, so the second "ls" > : may show that some of the devices have magically unappeared. > > I just want to see the disk slices that are availabe. Define 'available'? If there are two slices, and they overlap, which one should be visible? Or both, with exclusion based on whichever is opened first? There are a lot of nasty corner cases here. 8( -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 1:10:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF0C37B40C; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:10:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5E8ALV12267; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:10:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200106140810.f5E8ALV12267@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: msdosfs can't mount Extended partition. Any ideas? Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:16:53 PDT." <200106140816.f5E8GrJ07892@mass.dis.org> References: <200106140816.f5E8GrJ07892@mass.dis.org> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:10:21 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200106140816.f5E8GrJ07892@mass.dis.org> Mike Smith writes: : Define 'available'? If there are two slices, and they overlap, which one : should be visible? Or both, with exclusion based on whichever is opened : first? All slices that the system considers to be valid. Ditto partitions on *BSD slices that we recognize as such. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 2:11:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gnome01.sovam.com (gnome01.sovam.com [194.67.1.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527A237B403; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:11:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from avn@any.ru) Received: from ts11-a245.dial.sovam.com ([195.239.68.245]:1796 "EHLO srv2.any" ident: "TIMEDOUT" whoson: "-unregistered-" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by gnome01.sovam.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:02:39 +0400 Received: from localhost (avn@localhost) by srv2.any (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5E93JJ00773; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:03:19 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from avn@any.ru) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:03:19 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey V. Neyman" X-X-Sender: To: =?koi8-r?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Cc: , Subject: Re: Supported ATAPI cdr/cdrw drives In-Reply-To: <200105281403.f4SE34Q26818@freebsd.dk> Message-ID: <20010614121619.H570-100000@srv2.any> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good day! On Mon, 28 May 2001, Søren Schmidt wrote: >As promised I've made up a list of reports I've received so far go to >http://freebsd.dk/ and follow the link. > >I also have a patch for the Yamaha's (yamaha-cdr.p1) which also >can be found via the above URL. Let me know if that make things >work... yamaha-cdr.p1 is mode 0600, there is yamaha-cdr.p2, but it does not apply cleanly (FreeBSD srv2.any 4.3-STABLE, cvsupped about 7-8 Jun). I tried to apply it manually, and everything was ok. The disk was written and closed successfully. Thank you. When MFC'ing, close my PR 25960 :) -- -----------------------------------------------+--------------------------- Is that not what living is for? | Regards, Alexey V. Neyman | mailto: avn@any.ru --------------------------------( Pkunk, SC2 )-+--------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 2:22:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342B437B405 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:22:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.247.142.175.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.247.142.175]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06801; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 05:21:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B28821F.9BF665C6@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:21:35 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Schmidt Cc: Jonathan Smith , John Hay , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UDMA interfering with install References: <200106140648.f5E6mpN55647@freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "S=F8ren Schmidt" wrote: > > > Maybe _that_ will keep that ata code from over-riding > > > the bios to disable dma (or maybe the bios just wasn't > > > doing it's job right ;) > > > > This won't work. > > > > Someone was having the same problem the other day, and > > I suggested the same soloution, but after probe, the > > damn driver enabled UDMA at attach time anyway. > = > Just set hw.ata.ata_dma=3D"0" in /boot/loader.conf and it > will not enabled DMA.. > = > > So we removed it from the kernel config... and the damn > > thing enabled it again. > = > There is nothing in the config file that affects DMA... This was a 4.3 system -- things seem to have changed in the source tree since then. In 4.3, it's not possible to disable DMA, because it gets reenabled in many places (atapi.c, etc.). This was off-topic for -current, unless the original poster was running 4.3-RELEASE or a RELENG_4_3_0_RELEASE... Sorry for the confusion. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 2:30:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (fw-rl0.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD4137B407 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5E9ThW87356; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:29:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <200106140929.f5E9ThW87356@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: UDMA interfering with install In-Reply-To: <3B28821F.9BF665C6@mindspring.com> "from Terry Lambert at Jun 14, 2001 02:21:35 am" To: tlambert2@mindspring.com Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:29:43 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Jonathan Smith , John Hay , current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Terry Lambert wrote: > "Søren Schmidt" wrote: > > > This won't work. > > > > > > Someone was having the same problem the other day, and > > > I suggested the same soloution, but after probe, the > > > damn driver enabled UDMA at attach time anyway. > > > > Just set hw.ata.ata_dma="0" in /boot/loader.conf and it > > will not enabled DMA.. > > > > > So we removed it from the kernel config... and the damn > > > thing enabled it again. > > > > There is nothing in the config file that affects DMA... > > This was a 4.3 system -- things seem to have changed in > the source tree since then. Nope. > In 4.3, it's not possible to disable DMA, because it gets > reenabled in many places (atapi.c, etc.). there is no atapi.c... > This was off-topic for -current, unless the original > poster was running 4.3-RELEASE or a RELENG_4_3_0_RELEASE... > > Sorry for the confusion. I think you are confused :) -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 2:37:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA39F37B40C for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:37:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.247.142.175.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.247.142.175]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07420; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 05:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B2885EB.B256AA6E@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:37:47 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: S?ren Schmidt Cc: Jonathan Smith , John Hay , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UDMA interfering with install References: <200106140929.f5E9ThW87356@freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG S?ren Schmidt wrote: > > This was a 4.3 system -- things seem to have changed in > > the source tree since then. > > Nope. > > > In 4.3, it's not possible to disable DMA, because it gets > > reenabled in many places (atapi.c, etc.). > > there is no atapi.c... > > > This was off-topic for -current, unless the original > > poster was running 4.3-RELEASE or a RELENG_4_3_0_RELEASE... > > > > Sorry for the confusion. > > I think you are confused :) I expected you might say this... 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Habibulin" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS v4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The only BSD-related NFSv4 work I know about is at: http://www.citi.umich.edu/projects/nfsv4/download/ The amount of BSD-related information on the CITI NFSv4 page has gradually diminished over time (that is, originally they proudly stated ports to Linux and OpenBSD, and now they proudly state a port to Linux and, by the way, here's an OpenBSD-related link). That said, I haven't been following the work, so don't know much about it, or if there is other relevant work elsewhere. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Ilmar S. Habibulin wrote: > > Do somebody works on it? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 10: 6:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from technokratis.com (modemcable052.174-202-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca [24.202.174.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7052437B405; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:06:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmilekic@technokratis.com) Received: (from bmilekic@localhost) by technokratis.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5EH6sr24050; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:06:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmilekic) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:06:54 -0400 From: Bosko Milekic To: Terry Lambert Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New SMP Mbuf Allocator (PATCH and TESTING request) Message-ID: <20010614130654.A23642@technokratis.com> References: <20010613010744.A4083@technokratis.com> <3B286FC1.5C112A5C@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B286FC1.5C112A5C@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 01:03:13AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Terry, On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 01:03:13AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > A general comment, and then a comment on the patch: > > I would like to see this code be optional, until such time > as benchmarks have proven it to be better than the existing > code, or have proben it to be worse. Diking out the existing > code, and forcing it to be diked out by making unnecessary > function name changes seems to me to be a problem. This is going to be a very difficult thing to do. Hear me out. :-) The present code has been designed without any SMP in mind and without any concept of allowing for the possibility to have pages that were once wired-down and put to use by the mbuf subsystem to being freed when no longer used so that memory could be reclaimed. The new code attempts to offer both, but as with almost anything, sacrifices must be made. I'm hesitant to accept your `benchmark this' offer merely because it's difficult to accurately quantify overall performance while it will be easy for the benchmark to detect that the new code is in some ways slower than the old (because of additional complexity) and therefore rule: old allocator > new allocator, which is false given the ignorance of most benchmarks. I'll try my best to circle some of the Pros and Cons of each allocation technique and try to give you an overall picture of the tradeoffs and gains made. - The old allocator has one lock to protect all the free lists. As the number of CPUs grows, so does contention and, consequently, the mbuf allocator may become a significant bottleneck when several threads are servicing net-related requests. The new allocator has a lock per CPU thus allowing for more than one CPU to allocate mbufs and clusters at any one time, ultimately splitting contention in most cases. Additionally, the old allocator, in an SMP system, will likely have the lock (and list structure, etc.) ping-ponging from data cache to data cache whereas the new allocator, because of the separate lists and locks will minimize this effect. - The old allocator fragments memory and can never reclaim it and never easily determine if all the objects in one given page of data are free therefore if we were to ever decide that yes, it's now time to have the allocator free some pages back to the map, we won't be able to easily implement it (if at all). The new allocator has the "framework" for this type of thing so that if users continue requesting (as many have already done) to have FreeBSD free up resources it allocates for mbufs and clusters, we should be able to relatively easily implement freeing from a kproc, for example, and only do it, for example, when X number of bytes is in the pool but when only Y bytes are in use (where Y <<<< X). (Why from a kproc? Because freeing back to the map is relatively expensive for a thread that wants to merely free up an mbuf or cluster - this I *have* determined from previous profiling - results are probably archived somewhere on the lists). - The old allocator's macros MGET, MCLGET, MFREE, etc. could get away with making an allocation without performing a single function call. A function call was done only by those using the function equivalents m_get(), m_gethdr(), etc. The new allocator performs one function call in the common case for allocation. I don't foresee this to be a real problem - if it's any argument at all: NetBSD && OpenBSD have both been doing this for quite a long time (one function call per allocation) and in fact so have we before this allocator was introduced to replace calls to malloc() _and_ also as a result, the new allocator has shrunk those macros to effectively nothing in terms of size thus improving overall performance (less code cache pollution) whereas the old allocator has, needless to say, pretty large macros. - The common case of allocation and freeing in the new allocator is larger (although realistically, not significantly) than the common case for the old allocator. This is due to the added complexity in the new allocator and is expected. The increase in size of the common case is basically from `insignificant' to `insignificant + insignificant' when taking into account the fact that CPU speed is increasing incredibly quickly. Keep in mind that although it may take longer to execute the common case in the new allocator, the fact that there is less contention in the same common case may make it faster, overall. - The old allocator has all mbufs and clusters mixed in the same heap and there is no concept of `producer' and `consumer' in that although one thread may allocate an mbuf and write to it, and another thread may only free the mbuf, the second thread will, if the first thread is on another CPU, that CPU's data cache entries for the given mbuf because during freeing, the thread will write to the mbuf. Since in the new allocator mbufs are not written to when being freed and since they are always returned to the list from which they were obtained, cache invalidation is once again minimized. In conclusion, it is obvious that for strictly UP systems, the present allocator may turn out to be faster. But, if you look at it that way, then the mbuf allocator _BEFORE_ the whole SMPng thing started was EVEN better for UP systems (no lock code, etc.) On the other hand, the elimination of huge macros may even help improve overall performance even for UP systems. In the SMP case, the new allocator scales much much better. Both of these statements are obvious from the above points/comparisons. I hope this makes it clear that depending on the benchmark, we may see completely different results. Keep in mind though that the new allocator also offers the possibility of freeing back to the map, a significant advantage over the old one, especially for servers with exceptionally high network loads (for example, an IRC server may consume a lot of memory for mbufs and clusters at one point, only then to drop to normal amounts later again. However, the fact that the pages are never freed and are wired-down means that the system may start swapping simply due to wastage on the mbuf and cluster free lists). > Overall, I like the idea of moving towards a Dynix allocator > type model to support many processors (not just 4) well, but > I'm leery of many of the changes, particularly in light of > the claim that "It has been established that we do not benefit > from different locks for different objects, so we use the same > lock, regardless of object type". Well, if you'll note that not long ago, there used to be three different locks: one for mbufs, one for clusters, and one for counters. However, with three separate locks and the fact that callers often do: "get mbuf -> get counter -> get cluster" often resulted in one CPU doing: "cache first lock -> cache second lock -> cache third lock" and then another would have to invalidate the first CPUs cache three times (as opposed to only once with one lock). As a result, ping-ponging from CPU to CPU to CPU etc. often occured. With one lock, this is minimized. In the new allocator, having separate locks is not really useful since we have one lock per CPU anyway so that comment is not really an attempt at optimization but just a statement of the obvious. > On to the specific comments... I have addressed them in patch > order, so that they can be read side-by-side: > > -- > > The "npg" calculation has always been incorrect for large > memory systems with non-sparse physical maps, and now it > is much worse. I commented on this before in -arch. > > Consider the case of a machine with 4G of physical memory. Can you please clarify? > -- > > Is the policy two line or 4 line license, these days? > > -- I don't know. How is this important? > The MBALLOC_CPU stuff should be more dynamic; it appears > that the real number of CPUs is known at the time the > allocations take place. > > -- Yes, but some structures (notably statistics and the list manager structures) are statically allocated (the stats are exported via sysctl and need this) and so we need to know how many CPUs there are before compilation. It doesn't really matter if we don't, though, because then we'll just end up allocating slightly more than we need (we use MAXCPU in the default case) and we'll be on with it. Note that this does *not* mean that we'll also end up setting up MAXCPU CPU lists, as that setup is done at runtime when we know really how many CPUs we have. > I think you should spin, and only block if you don't get > the spin lock after several attempts. The Solaris tradeoff > in this regard is 10 attempts. Direct blocking on the cv > seems a little wasteful. In the common case, I shouldn't have to even block. These are per-CPU locks and blocking only happens when a different CPU is freeing an mbuf to a first CPUs list. I don't think I'm doing anything wrong with using the standard locking primitives provided by the OS. Spinlocks disable local interrupts and that seems more wasteful than blocking. I could be wrong, but these things are easy to change. > I'm not sure why you mutex the per-CPU containers? Aren't > they, by definition, per-CPU, and therefore immune from > contention? I mutex them for two reasons: 1- A thread on another CPU may be freeing to the first CPU if the mbuf it is freeing originated from the first CPU (this is a characteristic of the allocator model). 2- Preemption. > -- > > You realize that there is a dependency on MAXFILES, right? > > Specifically, there is an mbuf allocated per open socket > for the tcptmpl (even though it only needs 60 bytes). > > --- > > If you fix the tcptmpl allocation, a couple of additional > issues arise: > > 1) Since the allocations are in page-units, you will > end up with a lot of waste. > > 2) Allocation in page units will make it hard to give > 60 byte allocations back to the system. > > 3) The allocator is not really general enough for this > (or for things like TIME_WAIT zombie structs, etc.). > > 4) Yeah, this sort of also implies that mbuf cluster > headers come from a seperate pool, instead of being > 256 bytes as well... Huh? I haven't changed anything in terms of the sizes of allocations. The allocator only allocates mbufs and clusters, which are of fixed size in order to ease allocations of the same object in page units (it's much faster and simpler). I realize that some wastage occurs but that's just a fact of BSD (and has been forever). The new allocator doesn't make it worse. > -- > > Why do you lock around things in mb_init()? It's never > called twice, let alone reentrantly... the code will be > done before an AP is allowed to run. Alpha has this same > restriction, from what I can see from the code. > > -- Simply because mb_pop_cont() expects it and because it's a consistent thing to do with respect to the internal interface. > Dropping the lock in mb_pop_cont() seems wrong; I guess > you are avoiding sleeping with the lock held? > > I don't think you need to worry (per-CPU, again), unless > you later attempt lazy repopulation; it seems to me that > the lock that should be held is a global lock, to prevent > reentrancy on the global memory pool, and the malloc() > code does that. > > Perhaps I'm missing something here. Yeah. There have been some discussions as to why this is presently necessary. In the future, it may not be required. But, basically, right now, we can have Giant -> mbuf_related_lock and, if I don't drop the lock, then also mbuf_related_lock -> Giant, which would be a lock order reversal. > -- > > The ability to specify a "how" that implies an unwillingness > to block implies interrupt allocation; yet you can't support > this, since you do not preallocate a kernel map (ala the zone > allocator). The zone allocator is actually very misleading, > in that some of it's code never has the values it implies that > it might have; in particular, there are functions which are > passed parameters which can't really be variant, as implied by > the use of per zone variables as arguments. Although I don't quite understand everything you mention in this last paragraph, the `how' parameter implies more than just willingness to block in the new allocator. It also determines whether or not, during starvation, the system will call the protocol drain routines and whether or not it will attempt to "steal" from other CPU lists. Feel free to clarify, though, if it's still a concern. > -- > > Ah. I see why all the locks: mb_alloc_wait attempts to be > a primitive reclaimer. You would do much better with a per-CPU > high-watermark reclaim at free(), I think, instead of doing > this. Really, you are in a starvation condition because of > your load, and not because someone is "hogging already free > mbufs", I think. This is probably premature optimization. > > -- > > In the starvation case during a free, I don't think you > really care, except perhaps to adjust the high/low watermarks. > > An interesting issue here is that the average TCP window size > will end up being 16k, which comes out to 4 1-page buckets (2, > on Alpha), where you end up with multiple buckets and many > mbufs (64) per, so freeing isn't really an option, if you are > sending lots of data (serving content). It would be different > for a desktop system, since the receive interrupt might come > to any idle CPU. > > -- > > I like the cleanup via the use of local macros. Thanks. So do I. :-) > -- > > I think the m_getclr -> m_get_clrd change is gratuitous. m_getclr() isn't used at many places so it's not that big of a deal. The reason I changed it is because it's confusing: m_getclr() sounds like "m_get a cluster." > -- > > I like the "only" comment claifications. > > -- > > I dislike the bloating of one line comments into three lines, > with the first and last blank. It happens once or twice, as far as I could see (I could be missing some). It's to maintain consistency. The one-line comment likely should have been a three-line comment to begin with. > -- > > You could resolve the statistics problems by keeping them on > a per-CPU basis, and then agregating them under a general > system lock, when necessary (when they were requested). > > -- > > Most of the header definition changes for function declarations > are gratuitous. It's a question of alignment and style fix (to properly align the function declarations as per style(9), I'm allowed to insert a space for functions that do not return pointers). > -- > > Don't really care about netstat stuff... > > -- > > -- Terry -- Bosko Milekic bmilekic@technokratis.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 11: 9:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (kawoserv.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.180.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D3A37B401; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:09:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@big.endian.de) Received: from zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.181.28]) by kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13846; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:09:09 +0200 Received: by zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 76C6214AAA; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:09:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:09:07 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Michael Harnois Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Bosko Milekic , Hajimu UMEMOTO Subject: Re: new ipv6 causes panic Message-ID: <20010614200907.A1148@zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.d> Mail-Followup-To: Alexander Langer , Michael Harnois , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Bosko Milekic , Hajimu UMEMOTO References: <86u21k5qq5.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <86u21k5qq5.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net>; from mdharnois@home.com on Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 10:44:50AM -0500 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Michael Harnois (mdharnois@home.com): > Building the kernel without INET6 makes this error go away. cvsup as > of about two hours ago. Is it fixed now? Ume has committed a fix to the mbuf locks recently. Alex (I just got the same panic with a different traceback with a kernel from before the fix as well). 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Message-ID: <20010614123654.W22077-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Heh- is this a bug or a feature? Making a kernel, no -j args, -current, tot ....oot/kernel make all ===> 3dfx ^C <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<^C'd it.... nellie.feral.com > ===> accf_data root mak===> accf_http e nellie.feral.com > ===> agp ===> aha fg===> amr bash: fg: current: no such job nellie.feral.com > ===> an ===> aue ===> cam ===> ccd ===> cd9660 ===> coda ===> cue ===> dc ===> de ===> dgm ===> digi ===> digi/digi ===> digi/digi_CX ===> digi/digi_CX_PCI ===> digi/digi_EPCX ===> digi/digi_EPCX_PCI Terminated <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< killall make from another xterm ===> digi/digi_Xe ===> digi/digi_Xem ===> digi/digi_Xr That make- takes a licking, but keeps on ticking..... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 13: 2:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0FA37B40A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:02:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5EK8Q508666; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:08:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:08:26 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Clever! The kernel make that won't die... Message-ID: <20010614220826.C8499@freebie.xs4all.nl> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010614123654.W22077-100000@wonky.feral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010614123654.W22077-100000@wonky.feral.com>; from mjacob@feral.com on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:38:43PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:38:43PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Heh- is this a bug or a feature? > > Making a kernel, no -j args, -current, tot > > ....oot/kernel make all > ===> 3dfx > ^C <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<^C'd it.... > > nellie.feral.com > ===> accf_data > root mak===> accf_http > e ... > ===> digi/digi_CX > ===> digi/digi_CX_PCI > ===> digi/digi_EPCX > ===> digi/digi_EPCX_PCI > Terminated <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< killall make from another xterm > ===> digi/digi_Xe > ===> digi/digi_Xem > ===> digi/digi_Xr > > That make- takes a licking, but keeps on ticking..... Is it make, or is it the compiler? I once, years back, saw some really pathological C code that made de C-compiler's optimizing step go bonkers. It just never stopped trying to figure out the code ;) Entertaining.. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 13:11:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3EA37B407; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5EKB6g43944; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:11:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:10:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Cc: Subject: Re: Clever! The kernel make that won't die... In-Reply-To: <20010614220826.C8499@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20010614131050.J22077-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oh, this is make.... On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:38:43PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > Heh- is this a bug or a feature? > > > > Making a kernel, no -j args, -current, tot > > > > ....oot/kernel make all > > ===> 3dfx > > ^C <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<^C'd it.... > > > > nellie.feral.com > ===> accf_data > > root mak===> accf_http > > e > ... > > > ===> digi/digi_CX > > ===> digi/digi_CX_PCI > > ===> digi/digi_EPCX > > ===> digi/digi_EPCX_PCI > > Terminated <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< killall make from another xterm > > ===> digi/digi_Xe > > ===> digi/digi_Xem > > ===> digi/digi_Xr > > > > That make- takes a licking, but keeps on ticking..... > > Is it make, or is it the compiler? I once, years back, saw some really > pathological C code that made de C-compiler's optimizing step go > bonkers. It just never stopped trying to figure out the code ;) > Entertaining.. > > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.FreeBSD.org > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 13:12: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sol.serv.u-szeged.hu (sol.serv.u-szeged.hu [160.114.51.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8326937B403 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.serv.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id WAA16066; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:11:36 +0200 (MEST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15AdSn-00016c-00 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:11:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:11:33 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clever! The kernel make that won't die... Message-ID: <20010614221133.A1744@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: Szilveszter Adam , current@freebsd.org References: <20010614123654.W22077-100000@wonky.feral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010614123654.W22077-100000@wonky.feral.com>; from mjacob@feral.com on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:38:43PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:38:43PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Heh- is this a bug or a feature? > > Making a kernel, no -j args, -current, tot tot... what?:-) Hello? Are you still there?:-) > ....oot/kernel make all > ===> 3dfx > ^C <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<^C'd it.... > > nellie.feral.com > ===> accf_data > root mak===> accf_http > e > nellie.feral.com > ===> agp > ===> aha > fg===> amr > > bash: fg: current: no such job > nellie.feral.com > ===> an Well... this seems rather strange... is this several ttys output or just one? > That make- takes a licking, but keeps on ticking..... Yes, FreeBSD's real mascot is the Energizer Bunny don't you know? It just keeps going and going and going and ... Seriously: no, I have never seen anything like it. And I never use -j for kernel builds either... what is possible is however this: there was some talk about ^C, ^Z and friends being incorrectly masked by the login routine thus making these useless in some cases even after login. (With the original point being that you shouldn't be able to use these while logging in) This is supposed to be fixed now, but maybe you have the buggy version running? Also, the talk was that while bash (and sh?) were affected, tcsh wasn't, and since that's what I use, maybe that's why I never noticed this... What is the date of your current world? -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 13:20:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EE337B409 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5EKJkg43966; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:19:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:19:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Szilveszter Adam Cc: Subject: Re: Clever! The kernel make that won't die... In-Reply-To: <20010614221133.A1744@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Message-ID: <20010614131737.U22077-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:38:43PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > Heh- is this a bug or a feature? > > > > Making a kernel, no -j args, -current, tot > > tot... what?:-) Hello? Are you still there?:-) "Top of Tree" > > > ....oot/kernel make all > > ===> 3dfx > > ^C <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<^C'd it.... > > > > nellie.feral.com > ===> accf_data > > root mak===> accf_http > > e > > nellie.feral.com > ===> agp > > ===> aha > > fg===> amr > > > > bash: fg: current: no such job > > nellie.feral.com > ===> an > > Well... this seems rather strange... is this several ttys output or just > one? > > > That make- takes a licking, but keeps on ticking..... > > Yes, FreeBSD's real mascot is the Energizer Bunny don't you know? It just > keeps going and going and going and ... > > Seriously: no, I have never seen anything like it. And I never use -j for > kernel builds either... what is possible is however this: there was some This was not a -j.... > talk about ^C, ^Z and friends being incorrectly masked by the login routine > thus making these useless in some cases even after login. (With the > original point being that you shouldn't be able to use these while logging > in) This is supposed > to be fixed now, but maybe you have the buggy version running? Also, the > talk was that while bash (and sh?) were affected, tcsh wasn't, and since > that's what I use, maybe that's why I never noticed this... Ah. I use bash. Maybe that's it. Even in -stable bash will break massively a number of ports builds. > > What is the date of your current world? June 5th... -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 13:21:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B76137B409 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:21:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott_long@btc.adaptec.com) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03364; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [162.62.64.10]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20028; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com (btcexc01 [162.62.147.10]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11315; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:20:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:20:47 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Long, Scott" To: "'Szilveszter Adam'" , current@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Clever! The kernel make that won't die... Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:20:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've also seen this while making ports. If I ^C while fetch is trying to connect to the distfile site, it doesn't die. It might be that the mk.* stuff is spinning off shells and allowing them to become disconnected from terminal input somehow. > -----Original Message----- > From: Szilveszter Adam [mailto:sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu] > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 2:12 PM > To: current@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Clever! The kernel make that won't die... > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:38:43PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > Heh- is this a bug or a feature? > > > > Making a kernel, no -j args, -current, tot > > tot... what?:-) Hello? Are you still there?:-) > > > ....oot/kernel make all > > ===> 3dfx > > ^C <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<^C'd it.... > > > > nellie.feral.com > ===> accf_data > > root mak===> accf_http > > e > > nellie.feral.com > ===> agp > > ===> aha > > fg===> amr > > > > bash: fg: current: no such job > > nellie.feral.com > ===> an > > Well... this seems rather strange... is this several ttys > output or just > one? > > > That make- takes a licking, but keeps on ticking..... > > Yes, FreeBSD's real mascot is the Energizer Bunny don't you > know? It just > keeps going and going and going and ... > > Seriously: no, I have never seen anything like it. And I > never use -j for > kernel builds either... what is possible is however this: > there was some > talk about ^C, ^Z and friends being incorrectly masked by the > login routine > thus making these useless in some cases even after login. (With the > original point being that you shouldn't be able to use these > while logging > in) This is supposed > to be fixed now, but maybe you have the buggy version > running? Also, the > talk was that while bash (and sh?) were affected, tcsh > wasn't, and since > that's what I use, maybe that's why I never noticed this... > > What is the date of your current world? > > -- > Regards: > > Szilveszter ADAM > Szeged University > Szeged Hungary > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 14:54:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6AD37B405 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:54:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Adrian@nu-earth.demon.co.uk) Received: from nu-earth.demon.co.uk ([212.229.139.211] helo=nue001) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 15Af6Y-0007Sq-0U for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:56:42 +0100 From: "Adrian Browne" To: Subject: tcsh.cat Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:53:25 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks I'm having a prob with tcsh.cat when performing a a make install after a buildworld and can't seem to shrug it off and or find a reason to it's occurance does any one know of a fix as I cant go any further :( /bin/tcsh -> /bin/csh install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 csh.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 /usr/share/man/man1/tcsh.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/man1/csh.1.gz ===> bin/csh/nls ===> bin/csh/nls/finnish install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 tcsh.cat /usr/share/nls/fi_FI.ISO8859-1/tcsh.cat install: /usr/share/nls/fi_FI.ISO8859-1/tcsh.cat: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/bin/csh/nls/finnish. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/bin/csh/nls. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/bin/csh. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. cheers Adrian Adrian@nu-earth.demon.co.uk ______ ____ _____ ____ / ____/_______ ___ / __ ) ___// __ \ / /_ / ___/ _ \/ _ \/ __ \__ \/ / / / / __/ / / / __/ __/ /_/ /__/ / /_/ / /_/ /_/ \___/\___/_____/____/_____/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 15:10:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AC637B401 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:10:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5EM9r607900; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:09:53 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:09:51 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Adrian Browne Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcsh.cat Message-ID: <20010615020950.A7765@nagual.pp.ru> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Adrian@nu-earth.demon.co.uk on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 10:53:25PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 22:53:25 +0100, Adrian Browne wrote: > > Hi folks I'm having a prob with tcsh.cat when performing a a make install > after a buildworld and can't seem to shrug it off and or find a reason to > it's occurance does any one know of a fix as I cant go any further :( It seems that 'make hierarchy' step is missing somehow, so required directories are not created. 'make world' definitely create them. Probably you run 'make install' instead of 'make installworld' which create them too. > > > /bin/tcsh -> /bin/csh > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 csh.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 > /usr/share/man/man1/tcsh.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/man1/csh.1.gz > ===> bin/csh/nls > ===> bin/csh/nls/finnish > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 tcsh.cat > /usr/share/nls/fi_FI.ISO8859-1/tcsh.cat > install: /usr/share/nls/fi_FI.ISO8859-1/tcsh.cat: No such file or directory > *** Error code 71 > > Stop in /usr/src/bin/csh/nls/finnish. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/bin/csh/nls. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/bin/csh. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/bin. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > cheers Adrian > Adrian@nu-earth.demon.co.uk > ______ ____ _____ ____ > / ____/_______ ___ / __ ) ___// __ \ > / /_ / ___/ _ \/ _ \/ __ \__ \/ / / / > / __/ / / / __/ __/ /_/ /__/ / /_/ / > /_/ /_/ \___/\___/_____/____/_____/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 15:15:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9AC37B401; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:15:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5EMFlg44159; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:15:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:15:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Bosko Milekic Cc: , Subject: Re: New SMP Mbuf Allocator (PATCH and TESTING request) In-Reply-To: <20010614130654.A23642@technokratis.com> Message-ID: <20010614151518.L22077-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FWIW- your patches appear to work fine for top of tree alpha. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 20:17:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3914A37B403 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:17:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA27463; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:17:18 +1000 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:15:04 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: Adrian Browne , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcsh.cat In-Reply-To: <20010615020950.A7765@nagual.pp.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 22:53:25 +0100, Adrian Browne wrote: > > > > Hi folks I'm having a prob with tcsh.cat when performing a a make install > > after a buildworld and can't seem to shrug it off and or find a reason to > > it's occurance does any one know of a fix as I cant go any further :( > > It seems that 'make hierarchy' step is missing somehow, so required > directories are not created. 'make world' definitely create them. > Probably you run 'make install' instead of 'make installworld' which > create them too. > > /bin/tcsh -> /bin/csh > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 csh.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 > > /usr/share/man/man1/tcsh.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/man1/csh.1.gz > > ===> bin/csh/nls > > ===> bin/csh/nls/finnish > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 tcsh.cat > > /usr/share/nls/fi_FI.ISO8859-1/tcsh.cat > > install: /usr/share/nls/fi_FI.ISO8859-1/tcsh.cat: No such file or directory > > *** Error code 71 There is a bug somewhere, possibly related to error handling for installworld when the hierarchy is incomplate, that causes the tcsh.cat symlink to point to the empty pathname. ISTR that once you have such a symlink for tcsh.cat, installworld is unable to recover even when the hierarchy is fixed (I used the easy fix of removing the symlink). Related bugs: - symlink(2) is happy to create a symlink to the empty pathname although empty pathnames are invalid. - many utilities are confused by symlinks to the empty pathname. ISTR that one error mode is to blindly append a slash to pathnames, so "" gets transformed to the completely different pathname "/". Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 21:25:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426A437B405 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:25:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5F4P2r82218 for current@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 06:25:02 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from jhay) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200106150425.f5F4P2r82218@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> Subject: pxeboot broken To: current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 06:25:02 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone else also have problems with pxeboot on -current? I just rebuilt a system and the pxeboot just garbles the screen when it starts. I have a pxeboot built on May 5 that do work. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 14 23:56:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6220D37B407 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:55:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5F6rmV19803; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:53:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200106150653.f5F6rmV19803@harmony.village.org> To: John Hay Subject: Re: pxeboot broken Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 Jun 2001 06:25:02 +0200." <200106150425.f5F4P2r82218@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> References: <200106150425.f5F4P2r82218@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:53:48 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200106150425.f5F4P2r82218@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> John Hay writes: : Does anyone else also have problems with pxeboot on -current? I just : rebuilt a system and the pxeboot just garbles the screen when it starts. : I have a pxeboot built on May 5 that do work. June 11th -current works for me. Warnr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 15 0:53:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sol.serv.u-szeged.hu (sol.serv.u-szeged.hu [160.114.51.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B1237B43C for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:53:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.serv.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id JAA16279; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:53:24 +0200 (MEST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15AoPw-0004Kf-00; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:53:20 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:53:20 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: Matthew Jacob Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Clever! The kernel make that won't die... Message-ID: <20010615095320.C1744@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: Szilveszter Adam , Matthew Jacob , current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010614221133.A1744@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20010614131737.U22077-100000@wonky.feral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010614131737.U22077-100000@wonky.feral.com>; from mjacob@feral.com on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 01:19:34PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, First of all I would like to apologise for my mail yesterday; we had a party here at the dorm and went a bit craaaazy... corollary is, next time I won't party and email at the same evening, they just don't mix...:-) In my opinion, you are looking for this fix: markm 2001/06/07 01:45:23 PDT Modified files: contrib/libpam/libpam_misc misc_conv.c Log: Fix bug introduced by myself that often resulted in a session having SIGINTR (^C) and SIGSTP (^Z) masked. Reported by: bde, sobomax Submitted by: sobomax Revision Changes Path 1.5 +9 -10 src/contrib/libpam/libpam_misc/misc_conv.c So, an upgrade should probably fix this. (Note that I have used bash for quite some time as my shell before switching over to tcsh and I never had problems with it with port builds or whatever.) Next time I will try to be more helpful the first time around. -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 15 0:58:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.de (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E7F37B405 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:58:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelc@space.ebiz-hp.com) Received: from fwd06.sul.t-online.de by mailout00.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15AoUZ-0006fw-04; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:58:07 +0200 Received: from pc-micha.mc.hp.com (320021761316-0001@[62.227.39.68]) by fmrl06.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 15AoUN-2JXnt2C; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:57:55 +0200 Received: from localhost (michaelc@localhost) by pc-micha.mc.hp.com (8.11.4/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5F7xXb00789 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:59:33 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from michaelc@space.ebiz-hp.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pc-micha.mc.hp.com: michaelc owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:59:33 +0200 (MEST) From: Michael Class X-X-Sender: Reply-To: Michael Class To: Subject: problems with ps2-mouse with current Message-ID: <20010615095611.F772-100000@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: 320021761316-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, after the recent linker_set-changes on my system the ps2-mouse is not working any more. It seems that a second (virtual ;-) keyboard is detected (atkbd1) and that this messes up things. I can reproduce this with a GENERIC-kernel (output of dmesg is appended). The system is a dual-prox ABIT VP6 with VIA-Chipset. Any ideas? Micha Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Jun 15 09:46:42 MEST 2001 michaelc@pc-micha.mc.hp.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 998363727 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (998.36-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 671023104 (655296K bytes) avail memory = 646905856 (631744K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc056f000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled WARNING: Driver mistake: destroy_dev on 154/0 Using $PIR table, 8 entries at 0xc00fdbc0 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xc000-0xc00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 10 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ulpt0: Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 990C, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1 uhci1: port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 10 at device 7.3 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at 7.4 (no driver attached) pci0: at 9.0 (no driver attached) pci0: