From owner-freebsd-current Sun Aug 26 1:54:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (dsl092-013-169.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779C837B407 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 01:54:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.5/8.11.1) id f7Q8sDt92728; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 01:54:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 01:54:13 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Oliver Fromme Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is csh tcsh? This can be a bad thing... Message-ID: <20010826015413.C92548@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010824212042.A86744@xor.obsecurity.org> <200108251202.OAA54973@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108251202.OAA54973@lurza.secnetix.de>; from olli@secnetix.de on Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 02:02:21PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 02:02:21PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Probably because it's just too late. During the initial > discussion, the voices pro and contra were about 50:50 (at > least that was my impression), and finally the pro ones > succeeded, probably because they had more "weight" (this No, it succeeded because the pro's answered all the questions of the cons and provide work arounds. At the time I imported tcsh, I only remember two decenters. > _But_ my vote would be for still having a "real" csh in > /bin, additionally. (And don't tell me that tcsh is a > real csh -- it's not, see below.) By chance have you looked at the csh source in the CSRG SCCS files? How about the tcsh sources from "day 1" in its CVS repository? Tcsh *is* a direct decendent of CSRG csh. Christos Zulas maintined the CSRG csh in the 4.4 days. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message