From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 21 3:34:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nala.dohd.org (a29150.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.29.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280BB37B401 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 03:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nala.dohd.org (Postfix, from userid 1008) id C26D1D939; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 12:34:44 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 12:34:44 +0200 From: Mark Huizer To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Mark Huizer , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NT filesystem panicking my current box Message-ID: <20011021123444.A1801@eeyore.local.dohd.org> References: <20011020153616.A76111@eeyore.local.dohd.org> <200110210318.f9L3IZq56810@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200110210318.f9L3IZq56810@apollo.backplane.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 08:18:35PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: > Try turning off vmiodirenable: > > sysctl -w vfs.vmiodirenable=0 > > And see if that makes a difference. > > -Matt Nope, it crashes just as fast. I am now turning on crash dumps, so I can at least give a backtrace This is the crash message IdlePTD 5226496 initial pcb at 3b3500 panicstr: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? panic messages: --- panic: lockmgr: pid 556, not exclusive lock holder 536 unlocking syncing disks... panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? Uptime: 8m48s pfs_vncache_unload(): 1 entries remaining This is the backtrace: #0 0xc021013e in dumpsys () #1 0xc020ff2b in boot () #2 0xc0210338 in poweroff_wait () #3 0xc023c6cf in bwrite () #4 0xc023d958 in vfs_bio_awrite () #5 0xc01e9588 in spec_fsync () #6 0xc01e9171 in spec_vnoperate () #7 0xc02b95d8 in ffs_sync () #8 0xc0248ce9 in sync () #9 0xc020fb30 in boot () #10 0xc0210338 in poweroff_wait () #11 0xc0206b59 in lockmgr () #12 0xc02423f2 in vop_stdunlock () #13 0xc046bcbc in ?? () #14 0xc02461e3 in vput () #15 0xc024aba1 in lstat () #16 0xc02f19f4 in syscall () #17 0xc02e603d in syscall_with_err_pushed () #18 0x804b27a in ?? () #19 0x804a58d in ?? () #20 0x8052d19 in ?? () #21 0x8048135 in ?? () Unfortunately I've already done a cvsup since that build, so it will take a buildworld cycle to get a kernel with more symbol information. I will start that work now Mark > :2 seconds of testing showed that 'tar -czf /dev/null /nt' was enough for > :a kernel panick within 2 seconds. > : > :A few upgrades later the problem still exists. > : -- Nice testing in little China... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 21 10:45:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDAA37B403 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 10:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15vMeq-00072S-00 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 19:45:08 +0200 Received: from aa87e.pppool.de ([213.6.168.126] helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 15vMeo-0004Qy-00 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 19:45:08 +0200 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9LFJUN01534 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 17:19:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200110211519.f9LFJUN01534@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 17:19:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: panic: mutex i4b_isic_rx already initialized To: current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, current as of Oct. 21 (~12am CET), I just booted with a new kernel+world and tried to dial out. ---snip--- panic messages: --- panic: mutex i4b_isic_rx 0xc02f4e84 already initialized [...] #0 dumpsys () at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:492 #1 0xc0190b85 in boot (howto=260) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:335 #2 0xc0190fb8 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc0276b99, howto=-962909164) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:634 #3 0xc01bdc9d in bremfree (bp=0xc69b2c14) at ../../../kern/vfs_bio.c:535 #4 0xc01bf325 in vfs_bio_awrite (bp=0xc69b2c14) at ../../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1519 #5 0xc0160ce6 in spec_fsync (ap=0xd0295ac8) at ../../../fs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:404 #6 0xc01608b0 in spec_vnoperate (ap=0xd0295ac8) at ../../../fs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:119 #7 0xc0200ef3 in ffs_sync (mp=0xc1866200, waitfor=2, cred=0xc0e60b00, td=0xc02f27a4) at vnode_if.h:441 #8 0xc01ca4b1 in sync (td=0xc02f27a4, uap=0x0) at ../../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:640 #9 0xc01907e3 in boot (howto=256) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:244 #10 0xc0190fb8 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc0271fc0, howto=-1071065468) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:634 #11 0xc018ad22 in mtx_init (m=0xc02f4e84, description=0xc028d684 "i4b_isic_rx", opts=0) at ../../../kern/kern_mutex.c:674 #12 0xc0243931 in isic_bchannel_setup (unit=0, h_chan=0, bprot=1, activate=1) at ../../../i4b/layer1/isic/i4b_bchan.c:93 #13 0xc01725f3 in i4b_link_bchandrvr (cd=0xc02d7cc0) at ../../../i4b/layer4/i4b_l4.c:730 #14 0xc0172253 in i4b_l4_connect_active_ind (cd=0xc02d7cc0) at ../../../i4b/layer4/i4b_l4.c:425 #15 0xc016e4f8 in F_03O (cd=0xc02d7cc0) at ../../../i4b/layer3/i4b_l3fsm.c:464 #16 0xc016e0db in next_l3state (cd=0xc02d7cc0, event=14) at ../../../i4b/layer3/i4b_l3fsm.c:254 #17 0xc016d539 in i4b_decode_q931 (unit=0, msg_len=11, msg_ptr=0xc0e6ec30 "\b\001\211\a)\005\001\n\025\020!") at ../../../i4b/layer3/i4b_q931.c:261 #18 0xc016fb10 in i4b_dl_data_ind (unit=0, m=0xc0e6ec00) at ../../../i4b/layer3/i4b_l2if.c:300 #19 0xc016c8cb in i4b_rxd_i_frame (unit=0, m=0xc0e6ec00) at ../../../i4b/layer2/i4b_iframe.c:133 #20 0xc016a163 in i4b_ph_data_ind (unit=0, m=0xc0e6ec00) at ../../../i4b/layer2/i4b_l2.c:377 #21 0xc0243042 in i4b_l1_ph_data_ind (drv_unit=0, data=0xc0e6ec00) at ../../../i4b/layer1/i4b_l1dmux.c:364 #22 0xc0244d68 in isic_isac_irq (sc=0xc02f4c80, ista=128) at ../../../i4b/layer1/isic/i4b_isac.c:165 #23 0xc0245699 in isicintr (sc=0xc02f4c80) at ../../../i4b/layer1/isic/i4b_isic.c:135 #24 0xc018434d in ithread_loop (arg=0xc17e7280) at ../../../kern/kern_intr.c:532 #25 0xc0183856 in fork_exit (callout=0xc0184234 , arg=0xc17e7280, frame=0xd0295d48) at ../../../kern/kern_fork.c:784 ---snip--- Bye, Alexander. -- ...and that is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 21 14:11: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta06.onebox.com (mta06.onebox.com [64.68.77.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFC037B403 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onebox.com ([10.1.111.10]) by mta06.onebox.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20011021211102.RYX29220.mta06.onebox.com@onebox.com> for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:11:02 -0700 Received: from [66.32.45.155] by onebox.com with HTTP; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:11:02 -0700 Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:11:02 -0700 Subject: Re: Current makeworld seems broken. From: "Glenn Gombert" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20011021211102.RYX29220.mta06.onebox.com@onebox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone addressed a fix for this problem yet ?? ---- Edwin Culp wrote: > In case no one has seen this, I'm getting > > (cd /usr/src/etc; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 amd.map apmd.conf > auth.con > f crontab csh.cshrc csh.login csh.logout dhclient.conf dm.conf fbtab > ftpusers > gettytab group hosts hosts.allow hosts.equiv hosts.lpd inetd.conf > login.access > login.conf motd modems netconfig networks newsyslog.conf pam.conf > phones prin > tcap profile protocols rc rc.atm rc.devfs rc.diskless1 rc.diskless2 > rc.firewall > rc.firewall6 rc.network rc.network6 rc.pccard rc.serial rc.shutdown > rc.syscon > s rc.sysctl remote rpc security services shells sysctl.conf syslog.conf > usbd.co > nf etc.i386/disktab etc.i386/rc.i386 etc.i386/ttys /usr/src/etc/../gnu/usr.b > in/man/manpath/manpath.config /usr/src/etc/../usr.bin/mail/misc/mail.rc > /usr/s > rc/etc/../usr.bin/locate/locate/locate.rc rc.isdn netstart pccard_ether > rc.suspe > nd rc.resume opieaccess /usr/share/examples/etc; install -c -o root > -g wheel - > m 444 defaults/rc.conf /usr/share/examples/etc/defaults; install > -c -o root -g > wheel -m 444 defaults/pccard.conf /usr/share/examples/etc/defaults; > install - > c -o root -g wheel -m 444 defaults/periodic.conf /usr/share/examples/etc/defaul > ts) > make: don't know how to make copies. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > ed > > > --- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 21 14:18:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0090037B405 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9LLILO36991; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:18:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:18:21 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200110212118.f9LLILO36991@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG, glenngombert@onebox.com Subject: Re: Current makeworld seems broken. In-Reply-To: <20011021211102.RYX29220.mta06.onebox.com@onebox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:11:02 -0700 >From: "Glenn Gombert" >Has anyone addressed a fix for this problem yet ?? [The "make: don't know how to make copies. Stop" message during installworld since yesterday.] Not (by any stretch of the imagination) a "solution", but this morning, I went ahead and performed the following brutish hack: Index: share/examples/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/freebsd/src/share/examples/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.29 diff -u -r1.29 Makefile --- share/examples/Makefile 2001/10/20 04:18:13 1.29 +++ share/examples/Makefile 2001/10/21 17:47:03 @@ -19,7 +19,7 @@ all clean cleandir depend lint tags: -beforeinstall: etc-examples ${SHARED} +beforeinstall: etc-examples .for dir in ${DIRS} FILES!= find -L ${dir} \( -name CVS -prune \) -o -type f -print and although I expect that some files may not have been installed, quite a lot more got installed than with the unmodified Makefile. And although I didn't stress either of the machines in question much afterward, they did each boot to multi-user OK. One was my build machine; the other, my laptop. Maybe the above will help identify what the real problem (& solution(s)) might be.... Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 21 15:58: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.allcaps.org (mail.allcaps.org [208.252.245.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6604D37B401 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 15:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2424932609; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 15:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4422E815; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 15:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 15:57:58 -0700 (PDT) From: BSD User To: David Wolfskill Cc: , , BSD User Subject: Re: Current makeworld seems broken. In-Reply-To: <200110212118.f9LLILO36991@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Message-ID: <20011021144517.Q2030-200000@mail.allcaps.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1999246350-1003705078=:2096" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1999246350-1003705078=:2096 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The problem seems to be in the /usr/src/share/examples/Makefile copies:: is an idiom used in only one other place in the BSD tree (in sendmail -- the /usr/src/share/sendmail/Makefile). Burying copies:: inside a .for loop seems to hide the indentifier from make. It probably shouldn't have worked previously, but it apparently it did. Something somewhere else must have covered up the bug and just got exposed. The fix seems to be to move the loops inside the copies:: section. Disclaimer: I am not one of the BSD maintainers so I can't comment on the validity of the patch. But it seems to work for me. The patch I used is attached. Hope it helps. 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You probably meant to write: --- sys/dev/mly/mly.c- Wed Sep 12 17:37:09 2001 +++ sys/dev/mly/mly.c Thu Oct 18 13:46:50 2001 @@ -847,7 +847,7 @@ mci->addr.phys.controller = 0; mci->timeout.value = 30; mci->timeout.scale = MLY_TIMEOUT_SECONDS; - if (bus < sc->mly_controllerinfo->virtual_channels_present) { + if (bus >= sc->mly_controllerinfo->physical_channels_present) { mc->mc_length = mci->data_size = sizeof(struct mly_ioctl_getlogdevinfovalid); mci->sub_ioctl = MDACIOCTL_GETLOGDEVINFOVALID; mci->addr.log.logdev = MLY_LOGDEV_ID(sc, bus, target); -- HIROSHI OOTA oota@LSi.nec.co.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 21 18:50:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bsd1.gccs.com.au (bsd1.gccs.com.au [203.17.152.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2678137B403 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 18:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LB50X (LB50X.gccs.com.au [203.17.152.10]) by bsd1.gccs.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f9M1oYI03351 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:50:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from starr3@gccs.com.au) Message-ID: <007901c15a9b$f1495430$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> From: "Harry Starr" To: "current" Subject: Re: Current makeworld seems broken. Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:50:34 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The problem is the new inclusion of ipfilter stuff. Make will change directory to .OBJDIR if it exists, and it does NOW that there is an ipfilter SUBDIR. A "fix" might be: >>> --- Makefile Mon Oct 22 11:44:12 2001 +++ Makefile.new Mon Oct 22 11:47:27 2001 @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ # # Doing a make install builds /usr/share/examples -DIRS!= for i in *; do \ +DIRS!= cd ${.CURDIR}; for i in *; do \ if test -d $$i -a $$i != CVS -a $$i != ipfilter; then \ echo $$i; \ fi; \ @@ -22,10 +22,10 @@ beforeinstall: etc-examples ${SHARED} .for dir in ${DIRS} -FILES!= find -L ${dir} \( -name CVS -prune \) -o -type f -print +FILES!= cd ${.CURDIR}; find -L ${dir} \( -name CVS -prune \) -o -type f-print .for file in ${FILES} copies:: - ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 ${file} ${DDIR}/${file} + ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 ${.CURDIR}/${file} ${DDIR}/${file} .endfor .endfor <<< To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 21 18:58:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bsd1.gccs.com.au (bsd1.gccs.com.au [203.17.152.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DA337B405 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 18:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LB50X (LB50X.gccs.com.au [203.17.152.10]) by bsd1.gccs.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f9M1wNI03375 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:58:23 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from starr3@gccs.com.au) Message-ID: <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> From: "Harry Starr" To: "current" Subject: RELENG_4 builds on -current Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:58:23 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems to be nigh impossible to build a "previous" release on -current. Problems include "incomplete" cross tool building, header files, and of course, device support, in particular differences between the "old" vn stuff, and the new "md" device. Is there any intention to support cross-release building ?? H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 21 20:31:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mr01.conversent.com (mr01.conversent.net [216.41.101.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5505637B401; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 20:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yahoo.com (host230.216.41.121.ma.110.net [216.41.121.230]) by mr01.conversent.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9M3UL100881; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 23:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3BD39319.F8262C57@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 23:31:37 -0400 From: CL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: vmware.guest.misc To: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Host running FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE guest References: <3BC598FA.BE1340D6@blueyonder.co.uk> <9qdsh2$bfc$1@london.vmware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As far as I can tell, the extremely slow boot problem is specific to VMWare for WindowsNT when running on the latest Athlon processors. VMWare for Linux, running under FreeBSD host of the same Athlon processor using the same guest image, does not have any problem. If host Windows 2K is a Petium II or III, then it runs with no problem. I think VMWare should fix this for Athlon for its Window version of VMWare. I say this because its Linux version works fine on an Athlon host. There may be a quick fix on the FreeBSD side. I have a GENERIC FreeBSD kernel built off CURRENT tree around March 2, 2001 that actually boots on the Athlon host without problem. Unfortunately I didn't keep the version of the source tree. Maybe someone on FreeBSD lists can tell what is causing this problem (some code triggered a VMWare slow path on Athlon processor ???) Steve Neuharth wrote: > I have no problem running freebsd... 4.3 and 4.4 > > "Ian Jenkinson" wrote in message > news:3BC598FA.BE1340D6@blueyonder.co.uk... > > Ladies and Gentlemen of this newsgroup, > > I sent this one to genereal, but unfortunately nobody answer so I > > was wondering if this group could be in a position > > to help me > > Thanks > > Ian Jenkinson > > > > Subject: Windows 2000 Host running FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE guest > > Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 15:43:46 +0100 > > From: Ian Jenkinson > > Organization: VMware, Inc. > > Newsgroups: vmware.for-windowsnt.general > > > > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > I am having a lot of difficulty in running FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE as a > > guest OS on my Windows 2000 (SP2) workstation. I have > > installed Linux RedHat 6.1 and Linux SuSe 7.1 VMs and they work just > > fine. The install process of the two boot floppies for FreeBSD passed > > off without great event, except for ftp timeouts and retries. However it > > > > takes well over 30 minutes to boot the installed > > FreeBSD and burns the host CPU to the ground (an Athlon 1.3Ghz with > > 512MB)! > > If anyone has any thoughts or guidance on what's happening I would > > be delighted to hear them. > > Yours > > Ian > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 22 3:19:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1688A37B403 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 03:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9MAInh09827; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:18:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Chad David Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk_clone() bug In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:16:58 MDT." <20011019121658.A13678@colnta.internal> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:18:49 +0200 Message-ID: <9825.1003745929@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20011019121658.A13678@colnta.internal>, Chad David writes: >On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 05:00:16PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> >> Sounds like the bug is the md driver cloning "md10ec" which it shouldn't >> do. This bug must naturally be in md_clone(), but I don't have the >> minutes right now to hunt it down. >> >> Should be quite simple to nail, it's just some string handling code. I've committed the correct fix. Thanks! -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 22 4:23:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from main.dcu.donbass.com (dcu.donbass.com [195.184.223.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0665B37B405 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 04:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sql-server (ws2.dcu.donbass.com [195.184.200.2]) by main.dcu.donbass.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/dcu) with ESMTP id OAA50940 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:23:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from master@dcu.donetsk.ua) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:27:32 +0300 From: Vadim Zaychenko X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.54/10) Reply-To: Vadim Zaychenko X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1122530957.20011022142732@dcu.donetsk.ua> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Здравствуйте, freebsd-current. -- Best regards, Vadim Zaychenko mailto:master@dcu.donetsk.ua ICQ: 92369162 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Малоизвестный седьмой закон Ньютона: Птица в руке безопасней, чем над головой. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Отправлено 22 октября 2001 г. в 14:27:30 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 22 5:58:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6401A37B403 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 05:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA16389; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:58:03 +1000 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:57:09 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: To: Harry Starr Cc: current Subject: Re: Current makeworld seems broken. In-Reply-To: <007901c15a9b$f1495430$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> Message-ID: <20011022224252.M55633-100000@delplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Harry Starr wrote: > The problem is the new inclusion of ipfilter stuff. > > Make will change directory to .OBJDIR if it exists, and it does NOW that > there is an ipfilter SUBDIR. The support for a separate object tree unfortunately gives separate object directories even to places like src/share/examples/ that don't need object directories (and explicitly unrequest them by setting NOOBJ). The ipfilter stuff doesn't need an object directory, but is too broken to set NOOBJ. This shoots its parent in the foot by causing the creation of the parent of its object directory (this directory becomes the parent's object directory). This is easy to fix by setting NOOBJ correctly, but in general a subdir of src/share/examples/ might actually need an object directory, and then something like your fix is needed. Another problem with all this is that the ipfilter subdir is only added in the (default) SHARED=copies case, so the object directories only get created in this case. This causes problems switching SHARED. E.g., "SHARED=symlinks make cleandir" doesn't clean the object directories that may have been created by a previous "SHARED=copies make". This is easy to fix by setting NOOBJ correctly. There would only be a problem in the not so general case where a conditionally built subdir needs an object directory. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 22 6:51:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EC337B407; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 06:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13332; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:51:09 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:51:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Harti Brandt To: Mark Peek Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, Jonathan Lemon Subject: Re: arp: is using my IP address 0.0.0.0! ??!?!? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011022155017.D70890-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Mark Peek wrote: MP>Yes, it does appear to be due to this commit. The first address on the MP>interface queue has an address of 0.0.0.0. Here's a patch that works for MP>me to block the messages. I'm guessing at the correct behavior so use at MP>your own risk. At least the voices^Wlog messages have stopped. :-) MP> MP>Mark The last commit fixed the problem. Thanks. harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 22 11:23:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F07137B401 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id f9MINIB10208 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:23:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:23:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: One or more if {disklabel,mdconfig,newfs} broken for small , file-backed md file systems. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For small devices (unclear definition of small), the following (changed from swap to vnode from the mdconfig man page example) is broken: sproing# dd if=/dev/zero of=foo bs=1024000 count=1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 1024000 bytes transferred in 0.234674 secs (4363498 bytes/sec) sproing# mdconfig -a -t vnode -f foo md0 sproing# disklabel -r -w md0 auto sproing# newfs /dev/md0c cylinder groups must have at least 2 cylinders sproing# disklabel -r md0 # /dev/md0c: type: unknown disk: amnesiac label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 1 sectors/cylinder: 63 cylinders: 31 sectors/unit: 2000 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 2000 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 31*) "large" devices (such as 128mb) work fine. It's not clear to me what the actual breakage is here, since my knowledge of the FFS/device stuff is weak; however, it would be nice to be able to do what I'm trying to do. :-) Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 22 11:45:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ipcard.iptcom.net (ipcard.iptcom.net [212.9.224.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62E537B401; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from notebook.vega.com (h156.229.dialup.iptcom.net [212.9.229.156]) by ipcard.iptcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA16212; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:45:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200110221845.VAA16212@ipcard.iptcom.net> To: rwatson@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org From: Maxim Sobolev Subject: Re: One or more if {disklabel,mdconfig,newfs} broken for small , file-backed md file systems. X-Mailer: Pygmy (v0.5.13) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:45:20 EEST In-Reply-To: Content-type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:23:17 -0400 (EDT), Robert Watson wrote: > = > For small devices (unclear definition of small), the following (changed > from swap to vnode from the mdconfig man page example) is broken: > = > sproing# dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dfoo bs=3D1024000 count=3D1 > 1+0 records in > 1+0 records out > 1024000 bytes transferred in 0.234674 secs (4363498 bytes/sec) > sproing# mdconfig -a -t vnode -f foo > md0 > sproing# disklabel -r -w md0 auto > sproing# newfs /dev/md0c > cylinder groups must have at least 2 cylinders > [...] > "large" devices (such as 128mb) work fine. It's not clear to me what the > actual breakage is here, since my knowledge of the FFS/device stuff is > weak; however, it would be nice to be able to do what I'm trying to do. > :-) On my -current system rebuilt from the sources cvsup'ed 12 hours ago: root@notebook# dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dfoo bs=3D1024000 count=3D1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 1024000 bytes transferred in 0.356797 secs (2869979 bytes/sec) root@notebook# mdconfig -a -f foo md0 root@notebook# disklabel -r -w md0 auto root@notebook# newfs /dev/md0c Warning: Block size restricts cylinders per group to 26. Warning: 2096 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/md0c: 2000 sectors in 1 cylinders of 1 tracks, 4096 sectors =091.0MB in 1 cyl groups (26 c/g, 52.00MB/g, 256 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 32 root@notebook# mount /dev/md0c /mnt root@notebook# ls /mnt root@notebook# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 845199 809207 -31623 104% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc /dev/md0c 935 1 860 0% /mnt root@notebook# Perhaps it is a good time to update your system. :-P -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 22 12:46:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts5.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798DF37B405; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TMA-1.brad-x.com ([64.228.82.194]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011022194628.BULJ27768.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@TMA-1.brad-x.com>; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:46:28 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.brad-x.com [127.0.0.1]) by TMA-1.brad-x.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208277B0C0; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:46:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Brad Laue To: CL Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Host running FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE guest In-Reply-To: <3BD39319.F8262C57@yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just as a data point, vmware 2.0.4.1142 under 4.4-STABLE as host boots 4.2-4.4-STABLE guest extremely slowly, and freezes at the 'mounting root' line under 5.0-CURRENT, as of 10/21/2001. I left it alone for five hours under -CURRENT, no way it would move. Brad // -- http://www.BRAD-X.com/ -- // On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, CL wrote: > As far as I can tell, the extremely slow boot problem is specific to > VMWare for WindowsNT when running on the latest Athlon processors. > VMWare for Linux, running under FreeBSD host of the same Athlon > processor using the same guest image, does not have any problem. > > If host Windows 2K is a Petium II or III, then it runs with no problem. I > think > VMWare should fix this for Athlon for its Window version of VMWare. > I say this because its Linux version works fine on an Athlon host. > > There may be a quick fix on the FreeBSD side. I have a GENERIC FreeBSD > kernel built off CURRENT tree around March 2, 2001 that actually boots on > the Athlon host without problem. Unfortunately I didn't keep the version of > the source tree. Maybe someone on FreeBSD lists can tell what is causing > this problem (some code triggered a VMWare slow path on Athlon > processor ???) > > > Steve Neuharth wrote: > > > I have no problem running freebsd... 4.3 and 4.4 > > > > "Ian Jenkinson" wrote in message > > news:3BC598FA.BE1340D6@blueyonder.co.uk... > > > Ladies and Gentlemen of this newsgroup, > > > I sent this one to genereal, but unfortunately nobody answer so I > > > was wondering if this group could be in a position > > > to help me > > > Thanks > > > Ian Jenkinson > > > > > > Subject: Windows 2000 Host running FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE guest > > > Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 15:43:46 +0100 > > > From: Ian Jenkinson > > > Organization: VMware, Inc. > > > Newsgroups: vmware.for-windowsnt.general > > > > > > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > > I am having a lot of difficulty in running FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE as a > > > guest OS on my Windows 2000 (SP2) workstation. I have > > > installed Linux RedHat 6.1 and Linux SuSe 7.1 VMs and they work just > > > fine. The install process of the two boot floppies for FreeBSD passed > > > off without great event, except for ftp timeouts and retries. However it > > > > > > takes well over 30 minutes to boot the installed > > > FreeBSD and burns the host CPU to the ground (an Athlon 1.3Ghz with > > > 512MB)! > > > If anyone has any thoughts or guidance on what's happening I would > > > be delighted to hear them. > > > Yours > > > Ian > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 22 13:51:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from silby.com (cb34181-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.14.173.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F363337B403 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 70489 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Oct 2001 20:51:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Oct 2001 20:51:40 -0000 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:51:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Silbersack To: Terry Lambert Cc: Subject: Re: Some interrupt coalescing tests In-Reply-To: <3BCEE1A8.3D0AE7F0@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20011022152532.G70396-100000@achilles.silby.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Terry Lambert wrote: > In the non-LRP case, the percentage drop in interrupt overhead > is ~10% (as has been observed by others). THis makes sense, > too, if you consider that NETISR driving of receives means > less time in interrupt processing. If we multiply the 15% > (100% - 85% = 15% in transmit) by 3 (12000/(12000-8000) = > 100% / 33% = 3), then we get 45% in transmit in the non-LRP > case. Hrm, so the reduction I saw is repeatable; good. If there are no objections, I'll fix up the whitespace later this week, fix the warning, and commit it. (The whitespace applies to the unified diff I created; your context one may have correct whitespace.) > It would be nice if someone could confirm that slightly less > than 1/2 of the looping is on the transmit side for a non-LRP > kernel, but that's about what we should expect... If it is, I wonder if we could put a larger number of packets in the queue and disable transmit interrupts for a while. MMmm, dynamic queues. Sounds like something that would take a lot of work to get right, unfortunately. (Presumably, this tactic could be applied to most network cards, although all the better ones probably have really good transmit interrupt mitigation.) > I'm really surprised abuse of the HTTP protocol itself in > denial of service attacks isn't more common. Well, the attack your proposed would require symmetric bandwidth (if I understood it correctly), and is of course traceable. My guess would be that even script kiddies are smart enough to avoid attacks which could easily be traceable back to their drones. > Even ignoring this, there's a pretty clear off the shelf > hardware path to a full 10 gigabits, with PCI-X (8 gigabits > times 2 busses gets you there, which is 25 times the largest > UUNet hosting center pipe size today). Are you sure about that? I recently heard that Internet2 will be moving to 2.4Gbps backbones in the near future, and I assume that qwest wouldn't be willing to donate that bandwidth unless they had similar capabilities already. ("They" being generalized to all backbone providers.) > Fair share is more a problem for slower interfaces without > hardware coelescing, and software is an OK band-aid for > them (IMO). > > I suspect that you will want to spend most of your CPU time > doing processing, rather than interrupt handing, in any case. > > -- Terry Yep, probably. Are you implementing fair sharing soon? Mike "Silby" Silbersack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 22 14:24: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-3.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7428237B401 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2163666B0F; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:24:01 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Harry Starr Cc: current Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current Message-ID: <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au>; from starr3@gccs.com.au on Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 11:58:23AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 11:58:23AM +1000, Harry Starr wrote: > It seems to be nigh impossible to build a "previous" release on -current. >=20 > Problems include "incomplete" cross tool building, header files, and of > course, device support, in particular differences > between the "old" vn stuff, and the new "md" device. I build worlds in a jail populated with the target release so there's no problems with this. Kris --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71I5xWry0BWjoQKURAgz7AKCYqj0cbIgfF059BviL+HtkgLv8cwCcDRfu sIu6CJzG9EKpGrQSL5tTXJM= =c/C6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 22 17:21:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from castle.jp.freebsd.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43FF37B403 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by castle.jp.freebsd.org (8.9.3+3.2W/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA37311 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:21:54 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (alfalfa) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 13 From: Makoto MATSUSHITA To: Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:21:52 +0900 Message-Id: <20011023092152F.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Problems include "incomplete" cross tool building, header files, and > of course, device support, in particular differences between the > "old" vn stuff, and the new "md" device. kris> I build worlds in a jail populated with the target release so there's kris> no problems with this. That's true, maybe he only wanna say about 4-stable "make release" with (recent) 5-current box in the latter half of his sentence. -- - Makoto `MAR' MATSUSHITA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 22 19: 8:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bsd1.gccs.com.au (bsd1.gccs.com.au [203.17.152.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B0D37B405 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LB50X (LB50X.gccs.com.au [203.17.152.10]) by bsd1.gccs.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f9N28HI06920 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:08:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from starr3@gccs.com.au) Message-ID: <006101c15b67$95127b20$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> From: "Harry Starr" To: References: <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au><008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au><20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <20011023092152F.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:08:17 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Makoto MATSUSHITA" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 10:21 AM Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current > That's true, maybe he only wanna say about 4-stable "make release" > with (recent) 5-current box in the latter half of his sentence. That is exactly what I am trying to do -- to build RELENG_4 under 5-CURRENT; and possibly recreate the RELENG_3 release as well. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 22 21: 6:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F90C37B406 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vb ([65.9.177.97]) by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011023040633.XMOT629.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@vb> for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:06:33 -0700 Message-ID: <004c01c15b78$881d28a0$0200a8c0@cc515939b.owml1.md.home.com> From: "vbrammer" To: Subject: Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 00:09:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 22 21:12:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-3.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1F137B401 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2414666B0E; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:12:08 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Harry Starr Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current Message-ID: <20011022211208.A7183@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au><008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au><20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <20011023092152F.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <006101c15b67$95127b20$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <006101c15b67$95127b20$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au>; from starr3@gccs.com.au on Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 12:08:17PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 12:08:17PM +1000, Harry Starr wrote: >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Makoto MATSUSHITA" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 10:21 AM > Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current >=20 >=20 > > That's true, maybe he only wanna say about 4-stable "make release" > > with (recent) 5-current box in the latter half of his sentence. >=20 > That is exactly what I am trying to do -- to build RELENG_4 under 5-CURRE= NT; > and possibly recreate the RELENG_3 release as well. Yeah, like I said, you can do this in a jail under 5.0. It would be nice if it worked directly from the 5.0 host environment. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 1:16:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.de (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127DA37B406 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwd06.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15vwjZ-0000L4-0J; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:16:25 +0200 Received: from thinkpad.nowhere.local (520086575877-0001@[217.0.28.144]) by fmrl06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 15vwjM-1tl3XUC; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:16:12 +0200 Received: (qmail 16058 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Oct 2001 08:16:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Oct 2001 08:16:10 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:16:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Dieringer To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, Subject: jdk 1.1.8 on -current? Message-ID: <20011023101019.H623-100000@ThinkPad.nowhere.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: 520086575877-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, after updating -current many programs seem to be incompatible. after recompiling they work, though. jdk1.1.8 has the same problem, but I can't recompile this... the error is: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libm.so.2: Undefined symbol "__stderrp" the package on current.freebsd.org doesn't work. Is there a version for current -current? thanks, martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 3:11: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.allcaps.org (mail.allcaps.org [208.252.245.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7BF37B401 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 03:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id B1EFB32609; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 03:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB422E815 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 03:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 03:11:00 -0700 (PDT) From: BSD User To: Subject: -current nfsd still causes hang from Solaris 8 nfs client Message-ID: <20011023024904.K4313-100000@mail.allcaps.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There was some talk about patches getting committed to fix multiple problems with Solaris 8 NFS clients. Did those ever get committed? As of 10/23, I'm still seeing problems. If they have been committed, I'll pull out ethereal and start sniffing packets. However, if something is about to get committed, I'll hold off. Let me know what the status is, Andy L. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 5:26: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.de (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39E437B406 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 05:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15w0d3-0001AO-04; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:25:57 +0200 Received: from thinkpad.nowhere.local (520086575877-0001@[217.0.28.144]) by fmrl05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 15w0cv-0duI4GC; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:25:49 +0200 Received: (qmail 21990 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Oct 2001 12:25:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Oct 2001 12:25:47 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:25:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Dieringer To: David Wolfskill Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jdk 1.1.8 on -current? In-Reply-To: <200110231157.f9NBvYR41610@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Message-ID: <20011023142215.R623-100000@ThinkPad.nowhere.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: 520086575877-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, David Wolfskill wrote: > >Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:16:09 +0200 (CEST) > >From: Martin Dieringer > >To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG, > > >after updating -current many programs seem to be incompatible. > >after recompiling they work, though. > >jdk1.1.8 has the same problem, but I can't recompile this... > >the error is: > >/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libm.so.2: Undefined symbol "__stderrp" > > Did you include > > COMPAT4X= yes > > in your /etc/make.conf? > yes, but I saw now that I also need COMPAT3X nobody talked about THAT 3 weeks ago... nevermind - martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 7: 2:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from castle.jp.freebsd.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C66537B401 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 07:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by castle.jp.freebsd.org (8.9.3+3.2W/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01206 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:02:51 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: <20011022211208.A7183@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <006101c15b67$95127b20$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> <006101c15b67$95127b20$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> <20011022211208.A7183@xor.obsecurity.org> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (alfalfa) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 12 From: Makoto MATSUSHITA To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:02:48 +0900 Message-Id: <20011023230248T.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kris> Yeah, like I said, you can do this in a jail under 5.0. Yes, but your kernel should have 'vn' device driver which is already deprecated in recent 5-current. Without vn, 4-stable build (make a release) will fail when vnconfig(8) does its job for boot floppies. Of course, we can fake vnconfig(8) in a jail environment so we can do this with some hacks :-) -- - Makoto `MAR' MATSUSHITA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 7:20:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ipcard.iptcom.net (ipcard.iptcom.net [212.9.224.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B266637B401; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 07:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vega.vega.com (h162.228.dialup.iptcom.net [212.9.228.162]) by ipcard.iptcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA47913; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:20:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from max@vega.com) Received: (from max@localhost) by vega.vega.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9NEJjH94445; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:19:45 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) From: Maxim Sobolev Message-Id: <200110231419.f9NEJjH94445@vega.vega.com> Subject: PCMCIA modem is detected/attached only on second insertion To: imp@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:18:25 +0300 (EEST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I had started observing this problem about a 1.5 months ago - my PCMCIA modem (EigerCom 33.6) is detected/attached only on second insertion, i.e. if I'm booting with the card inserted I have to manually eject it and put back, while if the machine boots with an empty slot I have to do insert-eject-insert procedure. At the same time, another PCMCIA card (ed0-compatible ethernet adapter) doesn't have this problem. Following is related kernel output when booted in the verbose mode (see my comments in []): pcic0: at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 on isa0 pcic0: Polling mode pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 pcic1: Cannot get I/O range pcic1 failed to probe at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 on isa0 pccard: card inserted, slot 0 pcic0: reset 1 int is 0 stat is ff pccard: card inserted, slot 1 pcic0: reset 1 int is 0 stat is ff pcic0: reset 2 int is 60 stat is cf start_init: trying /sbin/init pcic0: reset 2 int is 60 stat is ef pcic0: reset 3 int is 60 stat is ef pcic0: reset 3 int is 60 stat is ef pccard0: Assigning ed0: io 0x240-0x25f irq 10 mem 0x0-0xffffffff pcic: I/O win 0 flags 15 240-25f pcic: I/O win 0 flags 5 240-25f ed0 at port 0x240-0x25f irq 10 slot 0 on pccard0 pcic: I/O win 0 flags 15 240-25f ed0: address 00:80:c8:88:86:b1, type NE2000 (16 bit) [WAITING 5 min, no avail :( ] [REMOVING modem] pccard: card removed, slot 1 [INSERTING back] pccard: card inserted, slot 1 pcic0: reset 1 int is 0 stat is ff pcic0: reset 2 int is 60 stat is ef pcic0: reset 3 int is 60 stat is ef pccard1: Assigning sio1: io 0x2e8-0x2ef irq 3 mem 0x0-0xffffffff pcic: I/O win 0 flags 11 2e8-2ef pcic: I/O win 0 flags 1 2e8-2ef sio1 at port 0x2e8-0x2ef irq 3 flags 0x40000 slot 1 on pccard1 pcic: I/O win 0 flags 11 2e8-2ef sio1: type 16550A [IT WORKS] Please fix. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 7:26:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.dante.org.uk (alpha.dante.org.uk [193.63.211.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CD537B403; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 07:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pi.dante.org.uk ([193.63.211.70] helo=dante.org.uk) by alpha.dante.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #4) id 15w2Vs-0001ub-00; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:26:40 +0100 Message-ID: <3BD57E20.85806DC3@dante.org.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:26:40 +0100 From: Konstantin Chuguev Organization: Delivery of Advanced Network Technology to Europe Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: imp@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem is detected/attached only on second insertion References: <200110231419.f9NEJjH94445@vega.vega.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, FYI: Maxim Sobolev wrote: > I had started observing this problem about a 1.5 months ago - my > PCMCIA modem (EigerCom 33.6) is detected/attached only on second > insertion, i.e. if I'm booting with the card inserted I have to > manually eject it and put back, while if the machine boots with > an empty slot I have to do insert-eject-insert procedure. At the > same time, another PCMCIA card (ed0-compatible ethernet adapter) > doesn't have this problem. Following is related kernel output The funny thing is, I've got the opposite situation: I have to insert my network card twice (Netgear - old version), but my modem card (Xircom) works fine straight away. CURRENT, OLDCARD. Regards, Konstantin. -- * * Konstantin Chuguev Francis House * * Application Engineer 112 Hills Road * Tel: +44 1223 302992 Cambridge CB2 1PQ D A N T E WWW: http://www.dante.net United Kingdom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 7:45:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFE337B401 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 07:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9NEjpk42093 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 07:45:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 07:45:51 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200110231445.f9NEjpk42093@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: It's baaack... -- ("make: don't know how to make copies. Stop") Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Found this in my typescript after a "make installworld" on today's -CURRENT: ... ===> share/dict install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 README propernames web2 web2a /usr/share/dict /usr/share/dict/words -> web2 ===> share/examples (cd /usr/src/share/examples/../../etc; make etc-examples) (cd /usr/src/etc; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 amd.map apmd.conf auth.conf crontab csh.cshrc csh.login csh.logout dhclient.conf dm.conf fbtab ftpusers gettytab group hosts hosts.allow hosts.equiv hosts.lpd inetd.conf login.access login.conf motd modems netconfig networks newsyslog.conf pam.conf phones printcap profile protocols rc rc.atm rc.devfs rc.diskless1 rc.diskless2 rc.firewall rc.firewall6 rc.network rc.network6 rc.pccard rc.serial rc.shutdown rc.syscons rc.sysctl remote rpc security services shells sysctl.conf syslog.conf usbd.conf etc.i386/disktab etc.i386/rc.i386 etc.i386/ttys /usr/src/etc/../gnu/usr.bin/man/manpath/manpath.config /usr/src/etc/../usr.bin/mail/misc/mail.rc /usr/src/etc/../usr.bin/locate/locate/locate.rc rc.isdn netstart pccard_ether rc.suspend rc.resume opieaccess /usr/share/examples/etc; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 defaults/rc.conf /usr/share/examples/etc/defaults; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 defaults/pccard! .conf /usr/share/examples/etc/defaults; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 defaults/periodic.conf /usr/share/examples/etc/defaults) make: don't know how to make copies. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/share. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I had been able to get through the "make installworld" for yesterday's -CURRENT OK.... Recent CVSup history: freebeast[3] tail /var/log/cvsup-history.log CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Fri Oct 19 03:47:00 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Fri Oct 19 03:53:04 PDT 2001 CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sat Oct 20 03:47:00 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sat Oct 20 03:53:48 PDT 2001 CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sun Oct 21 03:47:01 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sun Oct 21 03:52:58 PDT 2001 CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Mon Oct 22 03:47:00 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Mon Oct 22 03:53:01 PDT 2001 CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Tue Oct 23 03:47:00 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Tue Oct 23 03:53:29 PDT 2001 freebeast[4] Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 8:27:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.14.150.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD15A37B403 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f9NFRFM31478 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:27:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54182380A; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:27:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: David Wolfskill Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: It's baaack... -- ("make: don't know how to make copies. Stop") In-Reply-To: <200110231445.f9NEjpk42093@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:27:15 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20011023152715.54182380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Wolfskill wrote: > Found this in my typescript after a "make installworld" on today's There was a commit about a problem with a missing NOOBJ.. May I suggest either: - rm -rf /usr/obj/* - cd src/share; cd `make -V .OBJDIR`; rm -rf * (check that its not your srcdir first :-). > make: don't know how to make copies. Stop > *** Error code 2 Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 10:57:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D7437B405 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 91698 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2001 17:57:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Oct 2001 17:57:17 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:57:18 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Test tweak for F00F bug.. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone running -current on a true Pentium with the F00F bug that can verify that this simple cleanup patch works? http://www.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/f00f.patch Index: trap.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c,v retrieving revision 1.204 diff -u -r1.204 trap.c --- trap.c 11 Oct 2001 18:25:57 -0000 1.204 +++ trap.c 20 Oct 2001 02:25:09 -0000 @@ -214,11 +214,6 @@ } eva = 0; - -#if defined(I586_CPU) && !defined(NO_F00F_HACK) -restart: -#endif - type = frame.tf_trapno; code = frame.tf_err; @@ -294,8 +289,9 @@ * f00f hack workaround has triggered, treat * as illegal instruction not page fault. */ - frame.tf_trapno = T_PRIVINFLT; - goto restart; + ucode = T_PRIVINFLT; + i = SIGILL; + break; } #endif if (i == -1) -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 12:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.FreeBSD.org.uk [194.242.139.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D6637B401 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id f9NJnXF04003; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:49:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9NJhTY15110; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:43:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <200110231943.f9NJhTY15110@grimreaper.grondar.org> To: Peter Wemm Cc: David Wolfskill , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: It's baaack... -- ("make: don't know how to make copies. Stop") References: <20011023152715.54182380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20011023152715.54182380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> ; from Peter Wemm "Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:27:15 PDT." Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:43:29 +0100 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > David Wolfskill wrote: > > Found this in my typescript after a "make installworld" on today's > > There was a commit about a problem with a missing NOOBJ.. > May I suggest either: > - rm -rf /usr/obj/* > - cd src/share; cd `make -V .OBJDIR`; rm -rf * (check that its not your > srcdir first :-). Actually, it is possible for there to be no copies: target in src/share/examples/. The copies: (actually copies::) target is built up in a .for loop that may be empty. The fix is a dummy copies:: target. M -- o Mark Murray \_ FreeBSD Services Limited O.\_ Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 13:13:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8813037B401 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9NKD7T42890; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:13:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:13:07 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200110232013.f9NKD7T42890@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: mark@grondar.za, peter@wemm.org Subject: Re: It's baaack... -- ("make: don't know how to make copies. Stop") Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, david@catwhisker.org In-Reply-To: <200110231943.f9NJhTY15110@grimreaper.grondar.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:43:29 +0100 >From: Mark Murray >Actually, it is possible for there to be no copies: target in >src/share/examples/. The copies: (actually copies::) >target is built up in a .for loop that may be empty. >The fix is a dummy copies:: target. In the mean time, my laptop got through today's -CURRENT installworld OK, after trying the 2nd of Peter's suggested aproaches (paraphrasing, cd /usr/src/share && cd `make -V .OBJDIR` && rm -fr *; he also suggested ensuring that the target of the 2nd "cd" wasn't something of value first). Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 13:39: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-3.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF36637B401; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7EB6E66B0F; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:38:58 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: John Baldwin Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Test tweak for F00F bug.. Message-ID: <20011023133858.A15462@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 10:57:18AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 10:57:18AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > Anyone running -current on a true Pentium with the F00F bug that can veri= fy > that this simple cleanup patch works? >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/f00f.patch I can probably do it over the weekend. Kris --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71dVhWry0BWjoQKURAu/nAJ4ssUiN+dqg1iWG95wFde8QioqwagCeO2ZK v79Su852YUbeV8TYY8JOWMY= =FsNc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 13:47:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from w250.z064001178.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net (w250.z064001178.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.178.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6712A37B403 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 42328 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Oct 2001 20:47:29 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:47:07 -0700 From: Jos Backus To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: It's baaack... -- ("make: don't know how to make copies. Stop") Message-ID: <20011023134707.G39461@lizzy.bugworks.com> Reply-To: Jos Backus Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011023152715.54182380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> <200110231943.f9NJhTY15110@grimreaper.grondar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200110231943.f9NJhTY15110@grimreaper.grondar.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 08:43:29PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: > Actually, it is possible for there to be no copies: target in > src/share/examples/. The copies: (actually copies::) > target is built up in a .for loop that may be empty. > > The fix is a dummy copies:: target. Perhaps move the copies:: target def above the for loops, so that if the loops are empty no commands will be executed for that target? That was my local fix at least and it seemed to work fine. -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ Santa Clara, CA _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ josb@cncdsl.com _/_/ _/_/_/ use Std::Disclaimer; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 15:14:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nas.dgap.mipt.ru (nas.dgap.mipt.ru [194.85.81.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1614137B401 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by nas.dgap.mipt.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9NMEkP01248 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 02:14:47 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from andr@dgap.mipt.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: nas.dgap.mipt.ru: andrew owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 02:14:46 +0400 (MSD) From: "Andrew L. Neporada" X-X-Sender: andrew@nas.dgap.mipt.ru To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Anonymous read-only cvs access Message-ID: <20011024020755.H1227-100000@nas.dgap.mipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Could you please give me a link to the working anoncvs server. anoncvs.freebsd.org seems to be down for quite a long time. Andrew. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 15:34:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from white.dogwood.com (white.dogwood.com [63.96.228.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B6B37B403 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dave@localhost) by white.dogwood.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) id f9NMYSt91386 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:34:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave) From: Dave Cornejo Message-Id: <200110232234.f9NMYSt91386@white.dogwood.com> Subject: make release broken (+ fix) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:34:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It looks like if_wx was not removed from /usr/src/release/i386/drivers.conf which breaks make release. Index: drivers.conf =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/i386/drivers.conf,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -c -r1.2 drivers.conf *** drivers.conf 7 Nov 2000 14:00:04 -0000 1.2 --- drivers.conf 23 Oct 2001 22:31:58 -0000 *************** *** 54,58 **** vr if_vr 2 network "VIA VT3043/VT86C100A Rhine PCI ethernet card" wb if_wb 2 network "Winbond W89C840F PCI ethernet card" wi if_wi 2 network "Lucent WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 PCMCIA card" - wx if_wx 2 network "Intel Gigabit Ethernet (82452) card" xl if_xl 2 network "3COM 3c90x / 3c90xB PCI ethernet card" --- 54,57 ---- dave c -- Dave Cornejo @ Dogwood Media, Fremont, California (also dcornejo@ieee.org) "There aren't any monkeys chasing us..." - Xochi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 18:39:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA3B37B406; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a133.otenet.gr [212.205.215.133]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f9O1dqO21598; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:39:52 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9O1cro35834; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:38:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:38:53 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: John Baldwin Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Test tweak for F00F bug.. Message-ID: <20011024043853.C35538@hades.hell.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: C1EB 0653 DB8B A557 3829 00F9 D60F 941A 3186 03B6 X-URL: http://labs.gr/~charon/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 10:57:18AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > Anyone running -current on a true Pentium with the F00F bug that can verify > that this simple cleanup patch works? > > http://www.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/f00f.patch I can. Running it on p5/133 right now. CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.63-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping = 12 Features=0x1bf ... Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug Building world, now. Just give me another 8-10 hours to let my buildworld/installworld finish normally. Apart from crafting my own gas(1) test to make sure this works, anything particular I should look more carefully for? -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 18:42:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A4B37B405 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a133.otenet.gr [212.205.215.133]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f9O1gOO27068; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:42:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9O1g9u36152; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:42:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:42:09 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Mark Murray Cc: Peter Wemm , David Wolfskill , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: It's baaack... -- ("make: don't know how to make copies. Stop") Message-ID: <20011024044208.D35538@hades.hell.gr> References: <20011023152715.54182380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> <200110231943.f9NJhTY15110@grimreaper.grondar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200110231943.f9NJhTY15110@grimreaper.grondar.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: C1EB 0653 DB8B A557 3829 00F9 D60F 941A 3186 03B6 X-URL: http://labs.gr/~charon/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 08:43:29PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: > > Actually, it is possible for there to be no copies: target in > src/share/examples/. The copies: (actually copies::) > target is built up in a .for loop that may be empty. > > The fix is a dummy copies:: target. I've tested the following patch, and it works like a charm. At least, it let me build and install world with a clean /usr/obj :-) hades!sysop:[/usr/src/share/examples]# cvs -q dif -2cl | more Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/examples/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.29 diff -2 -c -r1.29 Makefile *** Makefile 20 Oct 2001 04:18:13 -0000 1.29 --- Makefile 22 Oct 2001 01:29:03 -0000 *************** *** 22,25 **** --- 22,29 ---- beforeinstall: etc-examples ${SHARED} + copies:: + + symlinks:: + .for dir in ${DIRS} FILES!= find -L ${dir} \( -name CVS -prune \) -o -type f -print -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 23 23:59:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ipcard.iptcom.net (ipcard.iptcom.net [212.9.224.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23CB37B401; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vega.vega.com (h46.228.dialup.iptcom.net [212.9.228.46]) by ipcard.iptcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA89025; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:57:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vega.vega.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9O6v8U96914; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:57:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3BD52D22.D8F3C3A1@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:41:06 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,uk,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith , Mitsuru IWASAKI , ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.org, acpi-jp@jp.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ACPI: problem with fdc resource allocation References: <200110022356.f92Nuit03147@mass.dis.org> <3BBADCB7.456D51AD@FreeBSD.org> <3BCFE398.51EA76F@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > > Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > This just isn't going to work. The _CRS data stream stops at byte 0x17, > > > and these extra items are simply mis-aimed. > > > > > > The 0x19 should really be 0x11, and the 0x1c should really be 0x14, ie. > > > this is a BIOS bug, and should be reported to the vendor. (It should > > > also have failed the Microsoft ACPI validation suite...) > > > > > > The correct action should probably be to silently discard the write > > > operations outside of a defined buffer, and return Zeroes or Ones for a > > > read outside a buffer. > > > > Do you have a patch to test this approach? While I understand that the best way to > > resolve the problem is to convince vendors to fix their ACPI implementations, but > > obviously this isn't going to happen any time soon, so appropriate workarround is > > really a must. > > The problem is still here as of today's kernel. Please do > something about it. Should I reapeat how sad it is that this longstanding problem is being completely ignored by the acpi maintainer(s)? -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 24 0: 1:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE8D37B406 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 00:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id f9O6xWQ96051; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:59:32 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:59:32 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Mark Murray Cc: Peter Wemm , David Wolfskill , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: It's baaack... -- ("make: don't know how to make copies. Stop") Message-ID: <20011024095932.B92032@sunbay.com> References: <20011023152715.54182380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> <200110231943.f9NJhTY15110@grimreaper.grondar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110231943.f9NJhTY15110@grimreaper.grondar.org>; from mark@grondar.za on Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 08:43:29PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 08:43:29PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: > > David Wolfskill wrote: > > > Found this in my typescript after a "make installworld" on today's > > > > There was a commit about a problem with a missing NOOBJ.. > > May I suggest either: > > - rm -rf /usr/obj/* > > - cd src/share; cd `make -V .OBJDIR`; rm -rf * (check that its not your > > srcdir first :-). > > Actually, it is possible for there to be no copies: target in > src/share/examples/. The copies: (actually copies::) > target is built up in a .for loop that may be empty. > > The fix is a dummy copies:: target. > We don't descend that far into examples/, we just stay in "examples" and build DIRS list dynamically. The problem is that even after my fix to examples/ipfilter/Makefile (which added NOOBJ to ipfilter subdir), the old "make world" may have left the .OBJDIR for examples/ipfilter. What it means for "examples" is that .OBJDIR != .CURDIR (as implied by the NOOBJ hint). The solution is to remove the stale objdir, as Peter have suggested. My (safe) version thus looks like this: cd /usr/src/share/examples; \ [ `make -V .OBJDIR ` != `make -V .CURDIR` ] && rm -rf `make -V .OBJDIR` Mark, please back your 1.32 revision from share/examples/Makefile out, as it only hides the problem with a wrong .OBJDIR. In the presence of the .OBJDIR for share/examples and revision 1.32, we just end up not installing anything from examples/* subdirs. Compare: # cd /usr/src/share/examples # mkdir /usr/obj/usr/src/share/examples # make -n copies # rmdir /usr/obj/usr/src/share/examples # make -n copies Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 24 0:40:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95A037B403; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 00:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9O7qoI08608; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 00:52:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200110240752.f9O7qoI08608@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: Mitsuru IWASAKI , ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.org, acpi-jp@jp.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ACPI: problem with fdc resource allocation In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:41:06 +0300." <3BD52D22.D8F3C3A1@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 00:52:50 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > The problem is still here as of today's kernel. Please do > > something about it. > > Should I reapeat how sad it is that this longstanding > problem is being completely ignored by the acpi > maintainer(s)? No, I'd prefer that you found something constructive to do with your time. I'm not interested in being bitched out over something as trivial as this when I have so much on my plate already; if you can't contribute, do me the least favour and save me the angst. Thanks. Mike -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 24 1: 7:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.FreeBSD.org.uk [194.242.139.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AF637B405; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 01:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id f9O86vd63863; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:06:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9O7xVY20414; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:59:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <200110240759.f9O7xVY20414@grimreaper.grondar.org> To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: Peter Wemm , David Wolfskill , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: It's baaack... -- ("make: don't know how to make copies. Stop") References: <20011024095932.B92032@sunbay.com> In-Reply-To: <20011024095932.B92032@sunbay.com> ; from Ruslan Ermilov "Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:59:32 +0300." Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:59:31 +0100 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Mark, please back your 1.32 revision from share/examples/Makefile out, Done. M -- o Mark Murray \_ FreeBSD Services Limited O.\_ Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 24 1:39: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ipcard.iptcom.net (ipcard.iptcom.net [212.9.224.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E369537B405; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 01:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vega.vega.com (h42.227.dialup.iptcom.net [212.9.227.42]) by ipcard.iptcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25519; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:37:41 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from max@vega.com) Received: (from max@localhost) by vega.vega.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9O8bAV99173; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:37:10 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) From: Maxim Sobolev Message-Id: <200110240837.f9O8bAV99173@vega.vega.com> Subject: Re: ACPI: problem with fdc resource allocation To: msmith@FreeBSD.ORG (Mike Smith) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:36:29 +0300 (EEST) Cc: sobomax@FreeBSD.ORG (Maxim Sobolev), iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org (Mitsuru IWASAKI), ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG, acpi-jp@jp.FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Mike Smith" at Oct 24, 2001 12:52:50 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > The problem is still here as of today's kernel. Please do > > > something about it. > > > > Should I reapeat how sad it is that this longstanding > > problem is being completely ignored by the acpi > > maintainer(s)? > > No, I'd prefer that you found something constructive to do with your time. > I'm not interested in being bitched out over something as trivial as this > when I have so much on my plate already; if you can't contribute, do me > the least favour and save me the angst. What you expect me to do "constructive" about this? I've submitted detailed report, tested some patches proposed by the Japanese ACPI developers and so on. I do not see what else I could do to get this problem resolved apart from bugging you from time to time. Perhaps you have any better ideas, then please let me know. Also if the problem is as trivial as you are describing, then it is highly unclear why it is not fixed yet (some 6 weeks are passed since initial report). I know several local guys with exactly the same bug (some time ago I've convinced some them to swith to -current and test/report any problems) and it is very sad to see my efforts vanished, especially considering that the source of the problem is located and as you said it is a "trivial" one. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 24 2:34:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA9437B401 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 02:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25095; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:34:11 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:34:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Harti Brandt To: archie@whistle.com Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: NgSendMsg may return bad token number Message-ID: <20011024112901.X55663-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, NgSendMsg returns the bad token number if the debugging level is higher than 2. It should use the token number from the message structure instead of the global gMsgId, because that is changed by the ASCII messages sent in _NgDebugMsg. The following patch fixes the problem for NgSendMsg: Index: msg.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/ncvs/src/lib/libnetgraph/msg.c,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -r1.5 msg.c 84c84 < return (gMsgId); --- > return (msg.header.token); The same problem exists obviously in NgSendMsgASCII, but I have no test case for this one and hence no fix. Regards, harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 24 4:33:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BDE237B403; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:290:27ff:fe98:c0b7]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B5224D22; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:33:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:2d0:b7ff:fea0:d487]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A84D1401; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:33:35 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:33:32 +0900 Message-ID: <7mg089l1bn.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Matt Dillon Cc: Current Subject: panic: vrele: missed vn_close In-Reply-To: <200110230121.f9N1LTa24181@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200110230121.f9N1LTa24181@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 MULE XEmacs/21.4 (patch 4) (Artificial Intelligence) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got a panic on -current which is updated 3 hours before. ... Additional TCP options:. Starting background filesystem checks Wed Oct 24 20:28:15 JST 2001 panic: vrele: missed vn_close Debugger("panic") Sttopped at Debugger+0x44: pushl %ebx db> trace Debugger() panic() vrele() vn_close() cnclose() spec_close() spec_vnoperate() vclean() vgonel() vgone() vop_revoke() devfs_revoke() exit1() sys_exit() syscall(2f,2f,2f,0,0) syscall_with_err_pushed() --- syscall (1, FreeBSD ELF, sys_exit) --- Is there a possibility this panic caused by this commit? At Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:21:29 -0700 (PDT), Matt Dillon wrote: > Log: > Change the vnode list under the mount point from a LIST to a TAILQ > in preparation for an implementation of limiting code for kern.maxvnodes. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 24 6:12:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tasogare.imasy.or.jp (tasogare.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645F837B407; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 06:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (iwasaki.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.92]) (authenticated as iwa with CRAM-MD5) by tasogare.imasy.or.jp (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.6/tasogare/smtpfeed 1.14) with ESMTP/inet id f9ODC3m66586; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:12:03 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:12:00 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20011024.221200.104029670.iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org> To: acpi-jp@jp.freebsd.org, sobomax@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: msmith@FreeBSD.ORG, ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [acpi-jp 1363] Re: ACPI: problem with fdc resource allocation From: Mitsuru IWASAKI In-Reply-To: <200110240837.f9O8bAV99173@vega.vega.com> References: <200110240837.f9O8bAV99173@vega.vega.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Maxim. Thanks for reporting and reminding us. I think this is very difficult to fix, because; 1. Basically, this is a bug in BIOS, should be reported to vendor. 2. ACPI CA is developed by Intel. We'd like to have less local workaround changes as possible. 3. I'm not sure whether suggested patches (buffer size dynamicaly expanding) in [acpi-jp 1315] is correct fix, maybe not. Probably another approach can be considered (e.g. just ignore AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT and continue interpreter execution). I'll describe again the problem. This method is like this; Method(_CRS) { Name(BUF0, Buffer(0x18) {0x47, 0x1, 0xf2, 0x3, 0xf2, 0x3, 0x0, 0x4, 0x47, 0x1, 0xf7, 0x3, 0xf7, 0x3, 0x0, 0x1, 0x22, 0x40, 0x0, 0x2a, 0x4, 0x0, 0x79, 0x0 }) CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x2, IOLO) CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x3, IOHI) CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x4, IORL) CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x5, IORH) CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x19, IRQL) CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x1c, DMAV) Return(BUF0) } The problem is that this AML is trying to create a field at exceeded position (0x19) of the Buffer (size is 0x18). And strangely, this method just return the buffer w/o any changes after CreateByteField operations. I guess that BIOS writer forgotten to delete CreateByteField statements, or change the buffer size. Now that we have DSDT override patches; http://home.jp.freebsd.org/cgi-bin/showmail/acpi-jp/1347 or http://home.jp.freebsd.org/cgi-bin/showmail/acpi-jp/1349 and AML disassembler (acpidump), and ASL compiler (iasl) in ports/devel/acpicatools/. Maxim, could you apply the following patches and try DSDT overriding? Thanks --- Tyan-S1590.asl.org Wed Oct 24 22:00:44 2001 +++ Tyan-S1590.asl Wed Oct 24 22:02:09 2001 @@ -884,12 +884,14 @@ } Method(_CRS) { Name(BUF0, Buffer(0x18) {0x47, 0x1, 0xf2, 0x3, 0xf2, 0x3, 0x0, 0x4, 0x47, 0x1, 0xf7, 0x3, 0xf7, 0x3, 0x0, 0x1, 0x22, 0x40, 0x0, 0x2a, 0x4, 0x0, 0x79, 0x0 }) +/* CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x2, IOLO) CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x3, IOHI) CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x4, IORL) CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x5, IORH) CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x19, IRQL) CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x1c, DMAV) +*/ Return(BUF0) } Name(_PRS, Buffer(0x1a) {0x30, 0x47, 0x1, 0xf2, 0x3, 0xf2, 0x3, 0x0, 0x4, 0x47, 0x1, 0xf7, 0x3, 0xf7, 0x3, 0x0, 0x1, 0x22, 0x40, 0x0, 0x2a, 0x4, 0x0, 0x38, 0x79, 0x0 }) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 24 6:32:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mgr1.xmission.com (mgr1.xmission.com [198.60.22.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504B937B406; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 06:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [166.70.7.36] (helo=misty.eyesbeyond.com) by mgr1.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15wO8s-0001kv-00; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 07:32:23 -0600 Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9ODW9C74286; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 23:02:09 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from glewis) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 23:02:09 +0930 From: Greg Lewis To: Martin Dieringer Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk 1.1.8 on -current? Message-ID: <20011024230209.A74266@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <20011023101019.H623-100000@ThinkPad.nowhere.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011023101019.H623-100000@ThinkPad.nowhere.local>; from dieringe@zedat.fu-berlin.de on Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 10:16:09AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 10:16:09AM +0200, Martin Dieringer wrote: > Hi, > after updating -current many programs seem to be incompatible. > after recompiling they work, though. > jdk1.1.8 has the same problem, but I can't recompile this... > the error is: > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libm.so.2: Undefined symbol "__stderrp" > > the package on current.freebsd.org doesn't work. > Is there a version for current -current? Do you have the compat3 libraries installed? -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Phone : (801) 765 1887 Information Technology Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 24 6:55:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hal-5.inet.it (hal-5.inet.it [213.92.5.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7F637B401 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 06:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by hal-5.inet.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f9ODtj877958 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 15:55:45 +0200 Received: from acampi.inet.it(213.92.1.165) by hal-5.inet.it via I-SMTP id s-213.92.1.165-tUdP4J; Wed Oct 24 15:55:45 2001 Received: by acampi.inet.it (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5C4FF15562; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 15:31:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 15:31:51 +0200 From: Andrea Campi To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: -CURRENT freeze under high load Message-ID: <20011024153151.A75454@webcom.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I am trying to diagnose a problem I've been having for a few weeks (I didn't report it earlier because I didn't have much time to hunt for it). The symptom is a total system freeze, i.e. I can't get into DDB. I can repeat it only with qmail, but of course I don't think it's qmail specific in any way; probably something to do with locking. To reproduce it I run: find . -type f | xargs mutt (on my machine, all emails get delivered to me) A kernel from Oct 1 doesn't have this issue; a kernel from Oct 5 has. I'll start binary searching for a commit I can blame. Anybody seen anything like this? Bye, Andrea To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 24 7:13:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pcat.heimat.gr.jp (catv-129-243.tees.ne.jp [202.216.129.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DB037B40B for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 07:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by pcat.heimat.gr.jp (8.11.4+3.4W/8.11.4) id f9OEDcP40645 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 23:13:38 +0900 (JST) Received: from xa12.heimat.gr.jp (xa12.heimat.gr.jp [202.216.136.35]) by pcat.heimat.gr.jp (8.11.4+3.4W/8.11.4av) with ESMTP id f9OEDZw40638 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 23:13:36 +0900 (JST) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -CURRENT freeze under high load References: <20011024153151.A75454@webcom.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: NAKAJI Hiroyuki Date: 24 Oct 2001 23:13:35 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20011024153151.A75454@webcom.it> (Andrea Campi's message of "Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:56:00 +0000 (UTC)") Message-ID: <86r8rtktww.fsf@xa12.heimat.gr.jp> Lines: 144 User-Agent: T-gnus/6.15.3 (based on Oort Gnus v0.03) (revision 06) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/20.7 (i386--freebsd) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> In <20011024153151.A75454@webcom.it> >>>>> andrea@webcom.it (Andrea Campi) wrote: AC> Anybody seen anything like this? Well, it may not be the case, but I have similar problem. In my case, just after login via xdm installed from port/x11/XFree86-4, load average gets very much increased up to about 4.0 and the mouse cannot work smoothly. It occurs when uptime becomes one day or more. Fortunately, my system never freeze or hangup. Here is dmesg. Mainboard is ASUS P3V4X and CPU is P3 933MHz with ASUS S370-??. Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #35: Wed Oct 17 15:51:39 JST 2001 root@boggy.acest.tutrp.tut.ac.jp:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NAKAJI Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (936.75-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 671072256 (655344K bytes) avail memory = 647983104 (632796K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc0471000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc04710b4. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled Using $PIR table, 8 entries at 0xc00f0e60 apm0: on motherboard apm0: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model. acpi_button0: on acpi0 fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 on acpi0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ppc0 port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP/ECP_RLE Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: ppbus0: PRINTER POSTSCRIPT plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: failed to get data. psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xb800-0xb80f at device 4.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at device 4.2 (no driver attached) xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xb000-0xb07f mem 0xe1800000-0xe180007f irq 5 at device 9.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:01:02:c2:15:af miibus0: on xl0 xlphy0: <3Com internal media interface> on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto csa0: mem 0xe0800000-0xe08fffff,0xe1000000-0xe1000fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 csa: card is Unknown/invalid SSID (CS4614) pcm0: on csa0 ahc0: port 0xa800-0xa8ff mem 0xe0000000-0xe0000fff irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 aic7890/91: Ultra2 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs atapci1: port 0x9000-0x90ff,0x9400-0x9403,0x9800-0x9807,0xa000-0xa003,0xa400-0xa407 irq 5 at device 13.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0xa400 on atapci1 ata3: at 0x9800 on atapci1 orm0: MARINET - =D0=F1=EF=F3=F6=EF=F1=DC Router Zyxel = Prestige
 

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2001 22:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 358B73261E; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D3A2E829; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:18:57 -0700 (PDT) From: BSD User To: Paul van der Zwan Cc: Thomas Quinot , Subject: Re: Multiple NFS server problems with Solaris 8 clients In-Reply-To: <200110241729.f9OHTLx21951@trantor.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20011024220526.M7882-100000@mail.allcaps.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Paul van der Zwan wrote: > I have looked at a trace I made using snoop and it shows an NFS_ACL call which > is not supported by FreeBSD. It should have sent a reply that it does not > know the NFS_ACL protocol but apparently it does not. > The only return traffic I see is an empty packet with the tcp ACK. > It looks like an implementation error in the -current NFS server. > > Paul I have been digging at traces of 4.4-RELEASE (which works) and -current (which doesn't). Both versions get it wrong. I have no idea why 4.4-RELEASE worked. -current responds with a blank TCP packet (which it emphatically should *not* do) to the GETACL3 call. It *could* conceivably be received as an RPC packet with the "Last Fragment" flag not set and a length of 0. Who knows what the Solaris 8 client is doing when it encounters this (probably getting stuck waiting for more data which never comes). 4.4-RELEASE responds with an RPC packet indicating "success" (which is *also* wrong if the NFS server doesn't support ACLs) and then puts what looks to be garbage in the response. However, it is a valid RPC reponse with the "Last Fragment" flag set. Presumably the Solaris client gets the message, sees the last fragment, throws away the packet as an error and continues on with life. I presume that the "correct" response is to send back an RPC reply (with the "Last Fragment" set) which indicates that the RPC message was accepted but that the procedure was unavailable (PROC_UNAVAIL). Hopefully this matches what an older Solaris server would do when faced with a Solaris 8 client and everything will proceed normally from there. If anybody wants ethereal traces, I can send them. Just ask. Andy L. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 1:39:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melchior.enst.fr [137.194.161.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC3837B40A for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 01:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 11117) id AF2F37A43; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:39:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:39:09 +0200 From: Thomas Quinot To: BSD User Cc: Paul van der Zwan , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple NFS server problems with Solaris 8 clients Message-ID: <20011025103908.D15286@cuivre.fr.eu.org> Reply-To: Thomas Quinot References: <200110241729.f9OHTLx21951@trantor.xs4all.nl> <20011024220526.M7882-100000@mail.allcaps.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20011024220526.M7882-100000@mail.allcaps.org>; from bsder@allcaps.org on Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 10:18:57PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Le 2001-10-25, BSD User Иcrivait : > On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Paul van der Zwan wrote: > > I have looked at a trace I made using snoop and it shows an NFS_ACL call which [...] > > It looks like an implementation error in the -current NFS server. > I have been digging at traces of 4.4-RELEASE (which works) and -current > (which doesn't). > Both versions get it wrong. I have no idea why 4.4-RELEASE worked. Thanks for this information! I have opened a PR on that problem earlier yesterday: kern/31479. -- Thomas Quinot ** DИpartement Informatique & RИseaux ** quinot@inf.enst.fr ENST // 46 rue Barrault // 75634 PARIS CEDEX 13 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 2:16:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from seed.pacific.net.sg (seed.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BDED37B401 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 02:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.pacific.net.sg (smtp1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.70]) by seed.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id f9P9Gco10925 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:16:38 +0800 (SGT) Received: from ap_280868.pacific.net.sg ([203.208.143.98]) by smtp1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id f9P9Gbi28889 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:16:37 +0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011025172001.00a41300@po.pacific.net.sg> X-Sender: nchee_hoong@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:22:48 +0800 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kelvin Ng Chee Hoong Subject: Install Bash shell Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ; I have install FreeBSD 4.4 release but the system does not has bash shell installed .where can I get this shell from CVS ? please advise . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 2:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ipcard.iptcom.net (ipcard.iptcom.net [212.9.224.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1D737B40A; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 02:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vega.vega.com (h195.227.dialup.iptcom.net [212.9.227.195]) by ipcard.iptcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA85237; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:29:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from max@vega.com) Received: (from max@localhost) by vega.vega.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9P9TLG21242; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:29:21 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) From: Maxim Sobolev Message-Id: <200110250929.f9P9TLG21242@vega.vega.com> Subject: Re: Install Bash shell To: nchee_hoong@pacific.net.sg (Kelvin Ng Chee Hoong) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:29:21 +0300 (EEST) Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Kelvin Ng Chee Hoong" at Oct 25, 2001 05:22:48 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Hi ; > I have install FreeBSD 4.4 release but the system does not has bash > shell installed .where can I get this shell from CVS ? please advise . cd /usr/ports/shells/bash2 ; make all install clean -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 3:11:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3B837B407; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f9P9nLJ16293; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:49:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:49:21 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Kelvin Ng Chee Hoong Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install Bash shell Message-ID: <20011025104921.C3939@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011025172001.00a41300@po.pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="p2kqVDKq5asng8Dg" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011025172001.00a41300@po.pacific.net.sg>; from nchee_hoong@pacific.net.sg on Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 05:22:48PM +0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --p2kqVDKq5asng8Dg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 05:22:48PM +0800, Kelvin Ng Chee Hoong wrote: > I have install FreeBSD 4.4 release but the system does not has bash= =20 > shell installed .where can I get this shell from CVS ? please advise . Bash is not part of the base system. Either install it using the ports tree; # cd /usr/ports/shells/bash # make install or install the binary package # pkg_add -r bash Questions like this should be sent to the freebsd-questions mailing list, where I've copied this message, and set the reply-to. You should=20 also read chapter 4 of the FreeBSD Handbook; http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --p2kqVDKq5asng8Dg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjvX4CEACgkQk6gHZCw343XuWgCeKWz6+HIdEC3X6kW2+N3fom1b heoAniKkWr9QmrkE5ktAKLNav5ar6iug =h6F1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --p2kqVDKq5asng8Dg-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 3:16:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.allcaps.org (mail.allcaps.org [208.252.245.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433F337B406; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id E6EEC3261E; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20E42E829; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:16:08 -0700 (PDT) From: BSD User To: Thomas Quinot Cc: Paul van der Zwan , , Subject: Re: Multiple NFS server problems with Solaris 8 clients In-Reply-To: <20011025103908.D15286@cuivre.fr.eu.org> Message-ID: <20011025030312.J8642-100000@mail.allcaps.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, upon instrumenting some code, it looks like RELEASE-4.4 gets it mostly right. It ejects a PROG_UNAVAIL call which causes the Solaris 8 client to back off. The correct message would seem to be PROC_UNAVAIL, but I would take PROG_UNAVAIL if I could get -current to eject it. The NFS server code is pretty tangled stuff. It builds RPC packets manually, switches uses from EPROGUNAVAIL as well as RPC_PROGUNAVAIL, has a jumble of macros with lots of side effects, and doesn't use anything from the RPC descriptions of NFS. I've been digging, but it has been really slow. It looks like it's probably some simple typo that got lost in the NFS megacommit. I've been trying to instrument the code to find the typo, but its taking a lot of effort. So far, I am seeing the packet getting built, but now I have to try to watch it on its way out. I must say that I now understand why no one is particularly enthused to fix these NFS bugs. Andy L. On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Thomas Quinot wrote: > Le 2001-10-25, BSD User =E9crivait : > > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Paul van der Zwan wrote: > > > I have looked at a trace I made using snoop and it shows an NFS_ACL c= all which > [...] > > > It looks like an implementation error in the -current NFS server. > > I have been digging at traces of 4.4-RELEASE (which works) and -current > > (which doesn't). > > Both versions get it wrong. I have no idea why 4.4-RELEASE worked. > > Thanks for this information! > > I have opened a PR on that problem earlier yesterday: kern/31479. > > -- > Thomas Quinot ** D=E9partement Informatique & R=E9seaux ** quinot@inf.ens= t.fr > ENST // 46 rue Barrault // 75634 PARIS CEDEX 13 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 4:29:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7147937B403 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 04:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:290:27ff:fe98:c0b7]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6245824D22; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:29:23 +0900 (JST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:2d0:b7ff:fea0:d487]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F65AD1401; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:29:21 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:29:18 +0900 Message-ID: <7mk7xkj6up.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Jonathan Lemon Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic: vrele: missed vn_close In-Reply-To: <20011024151252.F75389@prism.flugsvamp.com> References: <200110230121.f9N1LTa24181@freefall.freebsd.org> <7mg089l1bn.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <200110241838.f9OIcCR96868@apollo.backplane.com> <20011024135503.C75389@prism.flugsvamp.com> <200110241859.f9OIxqs97073@apollo.backplane.com> <20011024151252.F75389@prism.flugsvamp.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 MULE XEmacs/21.4 (patch 4) (Artificial Intelligence) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Problem was fixed with latest kernel. Thanks! -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 5:43:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hal-4.inet.it (hal-4.inet.it [213.92.5.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33ED37B407; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 05:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by hal-4.inet.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f9PChgv184804; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:43:42 +0200 Received: from unknown(213.92.1.165) by hal-4.inet.it via I-SMTP id s-213.92.1.165-yuLRyy; Thu Oct 25 14:43:42 2001 Received: by acampi.inet.it (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7B07B15562; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:43:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:43:11 +0200 From: Andrea Campi To: John Baldwin Cc: NAKAJI Hiroyuki , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -CURRENT freeze under high load Message-ID: <20011025144311.D75454@webcom.it> References: <86r8rtktww.fsf@xa12.heimat.gr.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 11:27:42PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > I would try removing apm from your kernel config or disabling ACPI and only > using one or the other and seeing if that helps. That was my feeling, too. In the end, it appears the problem is rev 1.8 of dev/acpi/acpi_powerres.c. Just reverting that fixed my problem (it wasn't fun to find that, anyway). To summarize my problem: this commit dfr 2001/10/04 01:32:18 PDT Modified files: sys/dev/acpica acpi_powerres.c Log: Use return_PTR, not return_VALUE when returning pointers. Revision Changes Path 1.8 +3 -3 src/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_powerres.c causes my Thinkpad 570E to completely freeze under load. I've just updated to -HEAD with this delta reverted and running a make buildkernel right now. Bye, Andrea To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 7:23:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ipcard.iptcom.net (ipcard.iptcom.net [212.9.224.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80AB37B401; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vega.vega.com (h64.229.dialup.iptcom.net [212.9.229.64]) by ipcard.iptcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA99407; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:23:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vega.vega.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9PEBmU22601; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:11:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3BD81E24.2A9CFF0F@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:13:56 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,uk,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mitsuru IWASAKI Cc: acpi-jp@jp.freebsd.org, msmith@FreeBSD.org, ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [acpi-jp 1363] Re: ACPI: problem with fdc resource allocation References: <200110240837.f9O8bAV99173@vega.vega.com> <20011024.221200.104029670.iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------88D9BCFC507CA65BE94FD168" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------88D9BCFC507CA65BE94FD168 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote: > > Hi, Maxim. Thanks for reporting and reminding us. > > I think this is very difficult to fix, because; > 1. Basically, this is a bug in BIOS, should be reported to vendor. > 2. ACPI CA is developed by Intel. We'd like to have less local > workaround changes as possible. > 3. I'm not sure whether suggested patches (buffer size dynamicaly expanding) > in [acpi-jp 1315] is correct fix, maybe not. Probably another approach > can be considered (e.g. just ignore AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT and continue > interpreter execution). Thank you very much for pointing me into the right direction! Finally I've properly fixed the bug, though I took slightly different approach, which I will describe below in the case when somebody else has the same or similar problem: 1. First of all, I dumped the ASL DSDT code using acpidump(8) utility available from ports/devel/acpicatools. For some reason output of the similar utility in the base system (fresh 5-CURRENT) appears to be incompatible with iasl compiler, so if anybody else will follow these steps please make sure that you are using a right acpidump(8). 2. After that I have compiled ASL code back into AML using iasl and saved resulting AML under different name DSDT_old. 3. Then I've patched ASL file to fix the problem - as Mike suggested changed 0x19 to 0x11 and 0x1c to 0x14 and compiled fixed ASL into DSDT_new file. With this message I am attaching appropriate patch, perhaps it is a good idea to put it somehow into the repository. 4. Next I've compared output of `hexdump -C' of both files (DSDT_old and DSDT_new), noted the differencies - as I expected only three bytes were different - checksum in the header and two bytes in the code itself. 5. Then I've extracted ACPI table from BIOS image using AWARD's CBROM.EXE utility, fired my favourite hex editor, found those two bytes in the extracted file and changed them accordingly (0x19-->0x11, 0x1c-->0x14). Also I've increased checksum in the DSDT header by the difference of the checksums in the DSDT_old and DSDT_new (0x10 in this particular case). 6. And finally I've put back corrected ACPI table back into BIOS image using CBROM.EXE, flashed resulting BIOS image and voila - the ACPI problem gone. :) If anybody else needs it, I could provide "fixed" BIOS image for Tyan-S1590 (Trinity 100AT) mobo, just drop me a note. Thanks to all who helped! -Maxim > > I'll describe again the problem. This method is like this; > Method(_CRS) { > Name(BUF0, Buffer(0x18) {0x47, 0x1, 0xf2, 0x3, 0xf2, 0x3, > 0x0, 0x4, 0x47, 0x1, 0xf7, 0x3, 0xf7, 0x3, 0x0, > 0x1, 0x22, 0x40, 0x0, 0x2a, 0x4, 0x0, 0x79, 0x0 }) > CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x2, IOLO) > CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x3, IOHI) > CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x4, IORL) > CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x5, IORH) > CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x19, IRQL) > CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x1c, DMAV) > Return(BUF0) > } > > The problem is that this AML is trying to create a field at exceeded > position (0x19) of the Buffer (size is 0x18). > And strangely, this method just return the buffer w/o any changes > after CreateByteField operations. I guess that BIOS writer forgotten to > delete CreateByteField statements, or change the buffer size. > > Now that we have DSDT override patches; > http://home.jp.freebsd.org/cgi-bin/showmail/acpi-jp/1347 > or > http://home.jp.freebsd.org/cgi-bin/showmail/acpi-jp/1349 > > and AML disassembler (acpidump), and ASL compiler (iasl) in > ports/devel/acpicatools/. > > Maxim, could you apply the following patches and try DSDT overriding? > > Thanks > > --- Tyan-S1590.asl.org Wed Oct 24 22:00:44 2001 > +++ Tyan-S1590.asl Wed Oct 24 22:02:09 2001 > @@ -884,12 +884,14 @@ > } > Method(_CRS) { > Name(BUF0, Buffer(0x18) {0x47, 0x1, 0xf2, 0x3, 0xf2, 0x3, 0x0, 0x4, 0x47, 0x1, 0xf7, 0x3, 0xf7, 0x3, 0x0, 0x1, 0x22, 0x40, 0x0, 0x2a, 0x4, 0x0, 0x79, 0x0 }) > +/* > CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x2, IOLO) > CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x3, IOHI) > CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x4, IORL) > CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x5, IORH) > CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x19, IRQL) > CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x1c, DMAV) > +*/ > Return(BUF0) > } > Name(_PRS, Buffer(0x1a) {0x30, 0x47, 0x1, 0xf2, 0x3, 0xf2, 0x3, 0x0, 0x4, 0x47, 0x1, 0xf7, 0x3, 0xf7, 0x3, 0x0, 0x1, 0x22, 0x40, 0x0, 0x2a, 0x4, 0x0, 0x38, 0x79, 0x0 }) --------------88D9BCFC507CA65BE94FD168 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined; name="Tyan-S1590.asl.fix" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Tyan-S1590.asl.fix" --- Tyan-S1590.asl 2001/10/25 11:00:43 1.1 +++ Tyan-S1590.asl 2001/10/25 11:07:17 1.2 @@ -868,8 +868,8 @@ CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x3, IOHI) CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x4, IORL) CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x5, IORH) - CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x19, IRQL) - CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x1c, DMAV) + CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x11, IRQL) + CreateByteField(BUF0, 0x14, DMAV) Return(BUF0) } Name(_PRS, Buffer(0x1a) {0x30, 0x47, 0x1, 0xf2, 0x3, 0xf2, 0x3, 0x0, 0x4, 0x47, 0x1, 0xf7, 0x3, 0xf7, 0x3, 0x0, 0x1, 0x22, 0x40, 0x0, 0x2a, 0x4, 0x0, 0x38, 0x79, 0x0 }) --------------88D9BCFC507CA65BE94FD168-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 7:42: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD2F37B405; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id B428380; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:41:42 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:41:42 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: acpi-jp@jp.freebsd.org Cc: Mitsuru IWASAKI , msmith@FreeBSD.org, ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [acpi-jp 1371] Re: ACPI: problem with fdc resource allocation Message-ID: <20011025154142.B6240@tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , acpi-jp@jp.freebsd.org, Mitsuru IWASAKI , msmith@FreeBSD.org, ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.org References: <200110240837.f9O8bAV99173@vega.vega.com> <20011024.221200.104029670.iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org> <3BD81E24.2A9CFF0F@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BD81E24.2A9CFF0F@FreeBSD.org>; from sobomax@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 05:13:56PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 05:13:56PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote: >=20 > 6. And finally I've put back corrected ACPI table back into > BIOS image using CBROM.EXE, flashed resulting BIOS image and > voila - the ACPI problem gone. :) >=20 Way cool. :) Joe --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjvYJKYACgkQXVIcjOaxUBakFQCgyyf0zceWdWAMrzzbiEIJRhHs MHEAnR6x2weoiodxQ3NI0Bf7fh8Ke1mX =G4Fs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 8:27: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CE437B403; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-209.244.104.103.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.244.104.103] helo=mindspring.com) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15wmPI-00034X-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:26:56 -0700 Message-ID: <3BD82F6E.375E0A57@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:27:42 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: Mike Smith , Mitsuru IWASAKI , ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG, acpi-jp@jp.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ACPI: problem with fdc resource allocation References: <200110240837.f9O8bAV99173@vega.vega.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Maxim Sobolev wrote: > I know several local guys with exactly the same > bug (some time ago I've convinced some them to swith to -current > and test/report any problems) and it is very sad to see my efforts > vanished, especially considering that the source of the problem is > located and as you said it is a "trivial" one. FWIW, "trivial" usually refers to the complexity of the problem, not the amount of work required to fix it (if it's trivial, then that means the work to fix it is "grunt work", i.e. it is not intellectually challenging, and therefore not attractive to work on or spend your effort on). The other use of "trivial" is "concerned with trivia"; it means that while the problem is known, so is the workaround, and so it is not a critical problem, just an annoying one. The most commonly cited workaround for this case is to delete or rename "acpi.ko" to prevent it being loaded. The first definition is the one used by mathematicians; the second one is used by the other sciences to describe things like the value of the constant of integration, when all they are concerned with is a line fit for the curve (i.e. set it to whatever displaces the curve sufficiently for it to fit the data). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 8:32:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C6D37B403 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-209.244.104.103.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.244.104.103] helo=mindspring.com) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15wmUZ-0000vp-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:32:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3BD830B6.3C6963B9@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:33:10 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harti Brandt Cc: archie@packetdesign.com, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NgSendMsg may return bad token number References: <20011024112901.X55663-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Harti Brandt wrote: [ ... ] For future reference, Archie, Julian, and I aren't @whistle.com, and haven't been for a long time. The correct email addresses for us are: archie packetdesign.com julian elisher.org tlambert2 mindspring.com (lambert.org to be fixed) -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 9: 8:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tasogare.imasy.or.jp (tasogare.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D3E37B405; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (iwasaki.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.92]) (authenticated as iwa with CRAM-MD5) by tasogare.imasy.or.jp (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.6/tasogare/smtpfeed 1.14) with ESMTP/inet id f9PG8Vm90990; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 01:08:31 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 01:08:28 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20011026.010828.89062843.iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org> To: joe@tao.org.uk Cc: acpi-jp@jp.freebsd.org, msmith@FreeBSD.org, ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.org, iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [acpi-jp 1371] Re: ACPI: problem with fdc resource allocation From: Mitsuru IWASAKI In-Reply-To: <20011025154142.B6240@tao.org.uk> References: <20011024.221200.104029670.iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org> <3BD81E24.2A9CFF0F@FreeBSD.org> <20011025154142.B6240@tao.org.uk> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # Congratulations, Maxim! > On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 05:13:56PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > > 6. And finally I've put back corrected ACPI table back into > > BIOS image using CBROM.EXE, flashed resulting BIOS image and > > voila - the ACPI problem gone. :) > > > > Way cool. :) Yeah, Maxim is maniac :) Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 9:16:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F2137B401; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15wnBN-0000PJ-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:16:37 +0200 Received: from ae145.pppool.de ([213.6.225.69] helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 15wnBM-0003al-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:16:36 +0200 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9PGIa601176; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:18:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200110251618.f9PGIa601176@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:18:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Fix (Re: panic: mutex i4b_isic_rx already initialized) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: hm@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200110211519.f9LFJUN01534@Magelan.Leidinger.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/mixed; BOUNDARY="0-1804289383-1004026718=:1173" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BINARY Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0-1804289383-1004026718=:1173 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii On 21 Okt, An: current@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > Hi, > > current as of Oct. 21 (~12am CET), I just booted with a new kernel+world > and tried to dial out. At least the attached patch (against -current as of today morning) makes me able to dial out and send out this mail. Bye, Alexander. -- Actually, Microsoft is sort of a mixture between the Borg and the Ferengi. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 --0-1804289383-1004026718=:1173 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; name="i4b.diff" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="i4b.diff" Index: sys/i4b/layer1/isic/i4b_bchan.c =================================================================== RCS file: /big/FreeBSD-CVS/src/sys/i4b/layer1/isic/i4b_bchan.c,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -u -r1.7 i4b_bchan.c --- sys/i4b/layer1/isic/i4b_bchan.c 24 Jan 2001 08:41:52 -0000 1.7 +++ sys/i4b/layer1/isic/i4b_bchan.c 25 Oct 2001 16:08:50 -0000 @@ -90,7 +90,8 @@ chan->rx_queue.ifq_maxlen = IFQ_MAXLEN; #if defined (__FreeBSD__) && __FreeBSD__ > 4 - mtx_init(&chan->rx_queue.ifq_mtx, "i4b_isic_rx", MTX_DEF); + if (!mtx_initialized(&chan->rx_queue.ifq_mtx)) + mtx_init(&chan->rx_queue.ifq_mtx, "i4b_isic_rx", MTX_DEF); #endif i4b_Bcleanifq(&chan->rx_queue); /* clean rx queue */ @@ -108,7 +109,8 @@ chan->tx_queue.ifq_maxlen = IFQ_MAXLEN; #if defined (__FreeBSD__) && __FreeBSD__ > 4 - mtx_init(&chan->tx_queue.ifq_mtx, "i4b_isic_tx", MTX_DEF); + if (!mtx_initialized(&chan->tx_queue.ifq_mtx)) + mtx_init(&chan->tx_queue.ifq_mtx, "i4b_isic_tx", MTX_DEF); #endif i4b_Bcleanifq(&chan->tx_queue); /* clean tx queue */ --0-1804289383-1004026718=:1173-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 9:32:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD2EA37B403; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 25 Oct 2001 17:32:48 +0100 (BST) To: BSD User Cc: Thomas Quinot , Paul van der Zwan , current@freebsd.org, fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple NFS server problems with Solaris 8 clients In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:16:08 PDT." <20011025030312.J8642-100000@mail.allcaps.org> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:32:47 +0100 From: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <200110251732.aa69596@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20011025030312.J8642-100000@mail.allcaps.org>, BSD User writes: >Actually, upon instrumenting some code, it looks like RELEASE-4.4 gets it >mostly right. It ejects a PROG_UNAVAIL call which causes the Solaris 8 >client to back off. The correct message would seem to be PROC_UNAVAIL, >but I would take PROG_UNAVAIL if I could get -current to eject it. I think PROG_UNAVAIL is correct; the packet trace that Thomas provided shows an RPC request with a program ID of 100227 which is not the NFS program ID. Try the patch below. Peter's NFS revamp changed the semantics of the nfsm_reply() macro, and nfsrv_noop() was not updated to match. Previously nfsm_reply would set 'error' to 0 when nd->nd_flag did not have ND_NFSV3 set, and much of the code that uses nfsrv_noop to generate errors ensured that nd->nd_flag was zero. Now nfsm_reply never sets 'error' to 0, so it needs to be done explicitly. Server op functions must return 0 in order for a reply to be sent to the client. Ian Index: nfs_serv.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/iedowse/CVS/src/sys/nfsserver/nfs_serv.c,v retrieving revision 1.107 diff -u -r1.107 nfs_serv.c --- nfs_serv.c 2001/09/28 04:37:08 1.107 +++ nfs_serv.c 2001/10/25 16:19:33 @@ -4000,6 +4000,7 @@ else error = EPROCUNAVAIL; nfsm_reply(0); + error = 0; nfsmout: return (error); } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 9:50:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hal-4.inet.it (hal-4.inet.it [213.92.5.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2662537B403 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by hal-4.inet.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f9PGoWE207408 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:50:32 +0200 Received: from unknown(213.92.1.190) by hal-4.inet.it via I-SMTP id s-213.92.1.190-CBCSUo; Thu Oct 25 18:39:53 2001 Received: (qmail 40524 invoked by uid 1000); 25 Oct 2001 16:39:48 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:39:48 +0200 From: Andrea Campi To: John Baldwin Cc: NAKAJI Hiroyuki , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [acpi-jp 1370] Re: -CURRENT freeze under high load Message-ID: <20011025183948.A3543@webcom.it> References: <86r8rtktww.fsf@xa12.heimat.gr.jp> <20011025144311.D75454@webcom.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011025144311.D75454@webcom.it>; from andrea@webcom.it on Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 02:43:11PM +0200 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I've just updated to -HEAD with this delta reverted and running a make > buildkernel right now. > Looks like I spoke too soon; reverting just this delta wasn't enough. I'm back to testing with all ACPI related work from Oct 04 08:32 rolled back; if it works, I'll try to update each diff in increment and find what else failed. Now I'll just shut up until I have conclusive evidence of what is broken. Bye, Andrea -- It is easier to fix Unix than to live with NT. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 9:57:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from infres.enst.fr (infres-192.enst.fr [137.194.192.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C1737B401; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by infres.enst.fr (Postfix, from userid 11117) id D74A01895; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:57:41 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:57:41 +0200 From: Thomas Quinot To: Ian Dowse Cc: BSD User , Thomas Quinot , Paul van der Zwan , current@freebsd.org, fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple NFS server problems with Solaris 8 clients Message-ID: <20011025185741.A3172@infres.enst.fr> Reply-To: Thomas Quinot References: <20011025030312.J8642-100000@mail.allcaps.org> <200110251732.aa69596@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200110251732.aa69596@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Le 2001-10-25, Ian Dowse Иcrivait : > I think PROG_UNAVAIL is correct; the packet trace that Thomas > provided shows an RPC request with a program ID of 100227 which is > not the NFS program ID. Yep. (Incidentally 100227 appears in /etc/rpc as 'nfs_acl'). > Try the patch below. Seems to work. Thanks! Thomas. -- Thomas Quinot ** DИpartement Informatique & RИseaux ** quinot@inf.enst.fr ENST // 46 rue Barrault // 75634 PARIS CEDEX 13 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 10: 4:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EA437B401; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id f9PH26Q52001; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:02:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:02:06 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src Makefile.inc1 Message-ID: <20011025200206.I41293@sunbay.com> References: <200110250728.f9P7Suo32144@freefall.freebsd.org> <20011025103739.B62879@sunbay.com> <15320.6175.46379.397080@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20011025171401.A22980@sunbay.com> <15320.12728.912070.130292@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15320.12728.912070.130292@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 11:37:28AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 11:37:28AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > x86 sysinstall seems to have a hardcoded reference to /boot. Eg: > > ===> usr.sbin/spray > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -I/usr/obj/i386/home/gallatin/current/src/alpha/usr/include /home/gallatin/current/src/usr.sbin/spray/spray.c > cd /home/gallatin/current/src/usr.sbin/spray; make _EXTRADEPEND > echo spray: /usr/obj/i386/home/gallatin/current/src/alpha/usr/lib/libc.a /usr/obj/i386/home/gallatin/current/src/alpha/usr/lib/librpcsvc.a >> .depend > ===> usr.sbin/sysinstall > rm -f makedevs.tmp > echo '#include ' > makedevs.tmp > ./rtermcap ansi | file2c 'const char termcap_ansi[] = {' ',0};' >> makedevs.tmp > ./rtermcap cons25w | file2c 'const char termcap_cons25w[] = {' ',0};' >> makedevs.tmp > ./rtermcap cons25 | file2c 'const char termcap_cons25[] = {' ',0};' >> makedevs.tmp > ./rtermcap cons25-m | file2c 'const char termcap_cons25_m[] = {' ',0};' >> makedevs.tmp > ./rtermcap cons25r | file2c 'const char termcap_cons25r[] = {' ',0};' >> makedevs.tmp > ./rtermcap cons25r-m | file2c 'const char termcap_cons25r_m[] = {' ',0};' >> makedevs.tmp > ./rtermcap cons25l1 | file2c 'const char termcap_cons25l1[] = {' ',0};' >> makedevs.tmp > ./rtermcap cons25l1-m | file2c 'const char termcap_cons25l1_m[] = {' ',0};' >> makedevs.tmp > ./rtermcap vt100 | file2c 'const char termcap_vt100[] = {' ',0};' >> makedevs.tmp > ./rtermcap xterm | file2c 'const char termcap_xterm[] = {' ',0};' >> makedevs.tmp > file2c 'u_char boot0[] = {' '};' < /boot/boot0 >> makedevs.tmp > cannot open /boot/boot0: no such file > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /home/gallatin/current/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /home/gallatin/current/src/usr.sbin. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /home/gallatin/current/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /home/gallatin/current/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /home/gallatin/current/src. > That's the bug in Makefile. We can abuse the fact that sys/ is listed first in Makefile.inc1, and use the version from ${.OBJDIR} if it exists. Could you please try this patch: Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.117 diff -u -r1.117 Makefile --- Makefile 2001/09/05 07:12:19 1.117 +++ Makefile 2001/10/25 16:59:05 @@ -21,6 +21,27 @@ CLEANFILES= makedevs.c rtermcap rtermcap.tmp dumpnlist CLEANFILES+= keymap.tmp keymap.h +.if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == i386 +.if exists(${.OBJDIR}/../../sys/boot/${MACHINE}/boot0/boot0) +BOOT0= ${.OBJDIR}/../../sys/boot/${MACHINE}/boot0/boot0 +.else +BOOT0= /boot/boot0 +.endif +.if ${MACHINE} == "i386" +.if exists(${.OBJDIR}/../../sys/boot/i386/mbr/mbr) +MBR= ${.OBJDIR}/../../sys/boot/i386/mbr/mbr +.else +MBR= /boot/mbr +.endif +.elif ${MACHINE} == "pc98" +.if exists(${.OBJDIR}/../../sys/boot/pc98/boot0.5/boot0.5) +BOOT05= ${.OBJDIR}/../../sys/boot/pc98/boot0.5/boot0.5 +.else +BOOT05= /boot/boot0.5 +.endif +.endif +.endif + makedevs.c: Makefile rtermcap rm -f makedevs.tmp echo '#include ' > makedevs.tmp @@ -54,17 +75,16 @@ ./rtermcap xterm | \ file2c 'const char termcap_xterm[] = {' ',0};' \ >> makedevs.tmp -.if ${MACHINE} == "i386" - file2c 'u_char boot0[] = {' '};' < /boot/boot0 >> makedevs.tmp +.if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == i386 + file2c 'u_char boot0[] = {' '};' < ${BOOT0} >> makedevs.tmp echo "size_t boot0_size = sizeof(boot0);" >> makedevs.tmp - file2c 'u_char mbr[] = {' '};' < /boot/mbr >> makedevs.tmp +.if ${MACHINE} == i386 + file2c 'u_char mbr[] = {' '};' < ${MBR} >> makedevs.tmp echo "size_t mbr_size = sizeof(mbr);" >> makedevs.tmp -.endif -.if ${MACHINE} == "pc98" - file2c 'u_char boot0[] = {' '};' < /boot/boot0 >> makedevs.tmp - echo "size_t boot0_size = sizeof(boot0);" >> makedevs.tmp - file2c 'u_char boot05[] = {' '};' < /boot/boot0.5 >> makedevs.tmp +.elif ${MACHINE} == "pc98" + file2c 'u_char boot05[] = {' '};' < ${BOOT05} >> makedevs.tmp echo "size_t boot05_size = sizeof(boot05);" >> makedevs.tmp +.endif .endif mv makedevs.tmp makedevs.c Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 10:37:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F29737B405 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 82776 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2001 17:37:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Oct 2001 17:37:10 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200110251618.f9PGIa601176@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 02:46:34 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Alexander Leidinger Subject: RE: Fix (Re: panic: mutex i4b_isic_rx already initialized) Cc: hm@freebsd.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-Oct-01 Alexander Leidinger wrote: > On 21 Okt, An: current@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: >> Hi, >> >> current as of Oct. 21 (~12am CET), I just booted with a new kernel+world >> and tried to dial out. > > At least the attached patch (against -current as of today morning) makes > me able to dial out and send out this mail. Ideally the algo would be changed to not try and init the mutex twice, but I haven't looked at the code in detail. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 11: 5:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AF037B405; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [194.97.50.135] (helo=mx2.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15wosi-00028u-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:05:28 +0200 Received: from a3082.pppool.de ([213.6.48.130] helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx2.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 15wose-0000Xj-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:05:24 +0200 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9PI6p669047; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:06:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200110251806.f9PI6p669047@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:06:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: Fix (Re: panic: mutex i4b_isic_rx already initialized) To: jhb@FreeBSD.org Cc: hm@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25 Okt, John Baldwin wrote: >>> current as of Oct. 21 (~12am CET), I just booted with a new kernel+world >>> and tried to dial out. >> >> At least the attached patch (against -current as of today morning) makes >> me able to dial out and send out this mail. > > Ideally the algo would be changed to not try and init the mutex twice, but I > haven't looked at the code in detail. There are maybe other parts of i4b which need a similar fix, but this particular fix is enough for me to be able to dial out again. I needed a quick fix. Possible other candidates (I just did a "grep -r mtx_init /sys/i4b/layer1/"): /sys/i4b/layer1/ifpnp/i4b_ifpnp_avm.c /sys/i4b/layer1/iwic/i4b_iwic_bchan.c /sys/i4b/layer1/ihfc/i4b_ihfc_drv.c /sys/i4b/layer1/ifpi/i4b_ifpi_pci.c Bye, Alexander. -- To boldly go where I surely don't belong. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 11:10:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893B137B403; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19884; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:10:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f9PIAFx78977; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:10:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15320.21894.897857.606505@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:10:14 -0400 (EDT) To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src Makefile.inc1 In-Reply-To: <20011025200206.I41293@sunbay.com> References: <200110250728.f9P7Suo32144@freefall.freebsd.org> <20011025103739.B62879@sunbay.com> <15320.6175.46379.397080@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20011025171401.A22980@sunbay.com> <15320.12728.912070.130292@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20011025200206.I41293@sunbay.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ruslan Ermilov writes: > +.if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == i386 > +.if exists(${.OBJDIR}/../../sys/boot/${MACHINE}/boot0/boot0) > +BOOT0= ${.OBJDIR}/../../sys/boot/${MACHINE}/boot0/boot0 > +.else > +BOOT0= /boot/boot0 > +.endif But its failing at the depends stage. At this stage, boot0 will not have been built yet: >>> elf make world started on Thu Oct 25 13:26:14 EDT 2001 >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /usr/obj/i386/home/gallatin/current/src/alpha/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies To confirm, I tried it with your patch & it still failed. You should be able to duplicate this on your x86 by just mv'ing /boot/boot0 out of the way while you try a buildworld. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 11:31: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC7137B403 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 71009 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2001 18:30:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Oct 2001 18:30:48 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15320.21894.897857.606505@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: cvs commit: src Makefile.inc1 Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Ruslan Ermilov Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-Oct-01 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Ruslan Ermilov writes: > > +.if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == i386 > > +.if exists(${.OBJDIR}/../../sys/boot/${MACHINE}/boot0/boot0) > > +BOOT0= ${.OBJDIR}/../../sys/boot/${MACHINE}/boot0/boot0 > > +.else > > +BOOT0= /boot/boot0 > > +.endif > > But its failing at the depends stage. At this stage, boot0 will not > have been built yet: > >>>> elf make world started on Thu Oct 25 13:26:14 EDT 2001 >>>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>>> stage 2: build tools >>>> stage 3: cross tools >>>> stage 4: populating >>>> /usr/obj/i386/home/gallatin/current/src/alpha/usr/include >>>> stage 4: building libraries >>>> stage 4: make dependencies > > > To confirm, I tried it with your patch & it still failed. > > You should be able to duplicate this on your x86 by just mv'ing > /boot/boot0 out of the way while you try a buildworld. Yeah, this is a bit of a tricky problem. Probably what should really happen, is that sysinstall should read these files from /boot on the existing filesystem, and then we just guarantee that they are present in the MFS root in the boot floppies. That is probably the best solution to the problem. > Drew -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 11:35:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from iguana.aciri.org (iguana.aciri.org [192.150.187.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A2B37B406 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rizzo@localhost) by iguana.aciri.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f9PIVd657331; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:31:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rizzo) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:31:39 -0700 From: Luigi Rizzo To: current@freebsd.org Subject: where is the idle_loop in current ? Message-ID: <20011025113139.A56942@iguana.aciri.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have some code (in stable) which is invoked from the idle loop, see below. I was trying to port it to CURRENT, but cannot find where the idle_loop (or idlethread ?) has gone. Any pointers ? A grep for idlethread did not return anything that i could parse. Furthermore, what kind of locking should i use instead of splimp() (the procedures called by ether_input() are a stripped down, bounded-execution-time version of the interrupt service routines for ethernet adapters). thanks luigi --- i386/i386/swtch.s 2001/07/26 02:29:10 1.89.2.4 +++ i386/i386/swtch.s 2001/10/23 04:00:27 @@ -246,6 +246,15 @@ call _procrunnable testl %eax,%eax CROSSJUMP(jnz, sw1a, jz) +#ifdef XORP_ETHER_POLLING + incl idle_done + call ether_poll + sti + nop + cli + testl %eax, %eax + jnz idle_loop +#endif call _vm_page_zero_idle testl %eax, %eax jnz idle_loop --- i386/isa/intr_machdep.c 2001/08/24 17:39:12 1.29.2.3 +++ i386/isa/intr_machdep.c 2001/10/24 02:03:55 int +ether_poll(void) +{ + static int i; + + int s = splimp(); + if (i >= pr_next) + i = 0 ; + if (pr[i].handler) + (*pr[i].handler)(pr[i].argument, 2); + i++ ; + splx(s); + return 1; /* more polling */ +} To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 11:50:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CC537B42B for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12974 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2001 18:50:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Oct 2001 18:50:17 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20011025113139.A56942@iguana.aciri.org> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:59:43 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Luigi Rizzo Subject: RE: where is the idle_loop in current ? Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-Oct-01 Luigi Rizzo wrote: > I have some code (in stable) which is invoked from the idle > loop, see below. I was trying to port it to CURRENT, but > cannot find where the idle_loop (or idlethread ?) has gone. > Any pointers ? A grep for idlethread did not return > anything that i could parse. > > Furthermore, what kind of locking should i use instead of > splimp() (the procedures called by ether_input() are a > stripped down, bounded-execution-time version of the > interrupt service routines for ethernet adapters). kern_idle.c. However, it cannot use any blocking locks if you invoke it from idle_loop(). You could also consider using a low priority kernel thread which is what the vm zeroing code does. So far the network stack is not locked, so leave the splimp's in as place holders and ensure your kthread acquires Giant around ether_poll(). > thanks > luigi > > --- i386/i386/swtch.s 2001/07/26 02:29:10 1.89.2.4 > +++ i386/i386/swtch.s 2001/10/23 04:00:27 > @@ -246,6 +246,15 @@ > call _procrunnable > testl %eax,%eax > CROSSJUMP(jnz, sw1a, jz) > +#ifdef XORP_ETHER_POLLING > + incl idle_done > + call ether_poll > + sti > + nop > + cli > + testl %eax, %eax > + jnz idle_loop > +#endif > call _vm_page_zero_idle > testl %eax, %eax > jnz idle_loop > > > --- i386/isa/intr_machdep.c 2001/08/24 17:39:12 1.29.2.3 > +++ i386/isa/intr_machdep.c 2001/10/24 02:03:55 > > int > +ether_poll(void) > +{ > + static int i; > + > + int s = splimp(); > + if (i >= pr_next) > + i = 0 ; > + if (pr[i].handler) > + (*pr[i].handler)(pr[i].argument, 2); > + i++ ; > + splx(s); > + return 1; /* more polling */ > +} > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 12:17:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A9A37B401; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trantor.xs4all.nl (trantor.xs4all.nl [194.109.61.248]) by smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f9PJHgbo048117; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 21:17:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from trantor.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by trantor.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f9PJHZx56036; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 21:17:35 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from paulz@trantor.xs4all.nl) Message-Id: <200110251917.f9PJHZx56036@trantor.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: BSD User Cc: Thomas Quinot , Paul van der Zwan , current@freebsd.org, fs@freebsd.org, paulz@trantor.xs4all.nl Subject: Re: Multiple NFS server problems with Solaris 8 clients In-Reply-To: Message from BSD User of "Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:16:08 PDT." <20011025030312.J8642-100000@mail.allcaps.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 21:17:34 +0200 From: Paul van der Zwan Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20011025030312.J8642-100000@mail.allcaps.org>, BSD User wrote= : >Actually, upon instrumenting some code, it looks like RELEASE-4.4 gets i= t >mostly right. It ejects a PROG_UNAVAIL call which causes the Solaris 8 >client to back off. The correct message would seem to be PROC_UNAVAIL, >but I would take PROG_UNAVAIL if I could get -current to eject it. In this case ( the NFS_ACL one) it seems PROG_UNAVAIL is the right thing.= It has a different program number from NFS and it is not just a not imple= mented procedure that is part of NFS. Paul -- = Paul van der Zwan paulz @ trantor.xs4all.nl "I think I'll move to theory, everything works in theory..." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 13: 1:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9783E37B401; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 13:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23491; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:01:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f9PK1E279115; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:01:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15320.28554.632139.922130@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:01:14 -0400 (EDT) To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src Makefile.inc1 In-Reply-To: <20011025200206.I41293@sunbay.com> References: <200110250728.f9P7Suo32144@freefall.freebsd.org> <20011025103739.B62879@sunbay.com> <15320.6175.46379.397080@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20011025171401.A22980@sunbay.com> <15320.12728.912070.130292@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20011025200206.I41293@sunbay.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After unhooking sysinstall from the build, we have almost total success. The only remaining problem is that the kernel install failed, due to a missing hints file in my DESTIR's /boot. One interesting bit of trivia -- an alpha crossbuilds an x86 world roughly 30-40% faster than it builds a native world. The alpha gcc backend is a pig. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 13:13:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0C1D37B401 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 13:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29511 invoked by uid 0); 25 Oct 2001 20:13:21 -0000 Received: from pd9508824.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO mail.gsinet.sittig.org) (217.80.136.36) by mail.gmx.net (mp011-rz3) with SMTP; 25 Oct 2001 20:13:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 42645 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2001 20:10:16 -0000 Received: from shell.gsinet.sittig.org (192.168.11.153) by mail.gsinet.sittig.org with SMTP; 25 Oct 2001 20:10:16 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by shell.gsinet.sittig.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f9PKABN42578 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 22:10:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sittig) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 22:10:11 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: current Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current Message-ID: <20011025221011.E97313@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Mail-Followup-To: current References: <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <200110250027.f9P0RB736961@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110250027.f9P0RB736961@harmony.village.org>; from imp@harmony.village.org on Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 06:27:11PM -0600 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 18:27 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > At timing solutions, we build all our products in a chroot jail. [...] > > We don't build RELEASES in the chroot. We build a system (make world > DESTDIR=xxx outside of the chroot) that we then use to build the > system (inside the chroot). What I've always been wondering since Kris first mentioned this technique in the thread's course (building -STABLE in a jail on a -RELEASE host or vice versa, IIUC) was the following: There's the host's kernel serving a differing world's userland. We all know what's the usual answer to "I just updated my kernel and now -- insert whatever you please -- stopped working. :) What did I miss? Or is it plain luck when things just work and one shouldn't ask why they do? :> virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 14: 4: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bilbo.in.mat.cc (bilbo.in.mat.cc [212.43.217.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDF037B403 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bilbo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bilbo.in.mat.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id C943071034 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:03:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from club-internet.fr (sauron.in.mat.cc [212.43.217.122]) by bilbo.in.mat.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5E771034 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:03:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3BD87E3B.B795BD1A@club-internet.fr> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:03:55 +0200 From: Mathieu Arnold Organization: http://www.absolight.com/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd current Subject: make installworld fails Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Doing a make make installworld fails on a 5_0-CURRENT from this morning fails in : gnu/lib/libreadline/history rlhistory.3: doc/history.3 cp ${.ALLSRC} ${.TARGET} no cp in $PATH... then : usr.sbin/ppp .8.m4.8: m4 ${M4FLAGS} ${.IMPSRC} >${.TARGET} no m4 in PATH... and then : secure/usr.bin/openssl .pod.1: pod2man ${.IMPSRC} > ${.TARGET} no pod2man in PATH... -- Mathieu Arnold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 15:55:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.supercable.es (smtp.supercable.es [212.79.128.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F9837B407 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 300amdk6 (cliente-217217250063.cm256.senpb.supercable.es [217.217.250.63]) by smtp.supercable.es (Switch-2.0.1/Switch-2.0.1) with SMTP id f9PMuSN18963 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 00:56:28 +0200 (MEST) From: "Manuel Jesus" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 00:47:16 +0200 Message-ID: <002a01c15da6$fef04cc0$3ffad9d9@supercable.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C15DB7.C2791CC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C15DB7.C2791CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Saludos. 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------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C15DB7.C2791CC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 19:31:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.allcaps.org (mail.allcaps.org [208.252.245.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9ED37B401; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 099903261E; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D762E829; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:31:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew P. Lentvorski" To: Ian Dowse Cc: Thomas Quinot , Paul van der Zwan , , Subject: Re: Multiple NFS server problems with Solaris 8 clients In-Reply-To: <200110251732.aa69596@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Message-ID: <20011025192740.N9725-100000@mail.allcaps.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Ian Dowse wrote: > I think PROG_UNAVAIL is correct; the packet trace that Thomas > provided shows an RPC request with a program ID of 100227 which is > not the NFS program ID. I stand corrected. It does indeed attempt to access a different program. > > Try the patch below. > The patch works. Now I can get back to working out the rpc_lockd subsystem. As a side note, is anyone from the FreeBSD side of the world taking a box to Connectathon to do some NFS testing? -a To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 21:12:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from scythe.pacific.net.sg (scythe.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3ED37B403 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 21:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.pacific.net.sg (smtp2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.169]) by scythe.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id f9Q4CM805337 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:12:22 +0800 Received: from ap_280868.pacific.net.sg ([203.208.143.98]) by smtp2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id f9Q4CMv32505 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:12:22 +0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011026120935.00a4e4e0@po.pacific.net.sg> X-Sender: nchee_hoong@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:18:36 +0800 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kelvin Ng Chee Hoong Subject: Change Prompt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ; I use bash shell in my FreeBSD machine . How do I change a promt from "$" to "#" when I login as superuser from normal user to root ? my .bashrc script looks as following ..... PS1="[\u@\h: \w]\$ " alias ls='ls -F' alias cp='cp -i' alias mv='mv -i' alias rm='rm -i Another question , what is the function of PS2 and when to use it ? Please advise .... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 25 23:52:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5863F37B401 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-209.245.128.14.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.128.14] helo=mindspring.com) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15x0r6-0001If-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:52:37 -0700 Message-ID: <3BD9086A.54460841@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:53:30 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: current Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current References: <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <200110250027.f9P0RB736961@harmony.village.org> <20011025221011.E97313@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gerhard Sittig wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 18:27 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > At timing solutions, we build all our products in a chroot jail. [...] > > > > We don't build RELEASES in the chroot. We build a system (make world > > DESTDIR=xxx outside of the chroot) that we then use to build the > > system (inside the chroot). > > What I've always been wondering since Kris first mentioned this > technique in the thread's course (building -STABLE in a jail on > a -RELEASE host or vice versa, IIUC) was the following: There's > the host's kernel serving a differing world's userland. We all > know what's the usual answer to "I just updated my kernel and > now -- insert whatever you please -- stopped working. :) What > did I miss? Or is it plain luck when things just work and one > shouldn't ask why they do? :> I have a 10k shell script for doing this. It copies in all the stuff from the parent system which is important to match to the real kernel, including /kernel, the "ps" program, and basically all other programs that open /dev/kmem or link against libkvm. That means that the build environment works like the host system for all important commands, but acts like the target system for compilation, etc.. It can also copy in and install a list of packages. Basically, it operates off a tarball which is DISC 2. It also uses chroot (not jail, though I suspect he just meant chroot). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 0:56:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from scythe.pacific.net.sg (scythe.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C0737B405 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 00:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.pacific.net.sg (smtp1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.70]) by scythe.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id f9Q7uX825952 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 15:56:33 +0800 Received: from ap_280868.pacific.net.sg ([203.208.143.98]) by smtp1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id f9Q7uXi23275 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 15:56:33 +0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011026160025.00a420a0@po.pacific.net.sg> X-Sender: nchee_hoong@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:02:49 +0800 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kelvin Ng Chee Hoong Subject: Upgrade Apache Web Server Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ; I have installed apache web server (Version 1.3.20) from port collection . How do I upgrade this software to version 1.3.22 from port collection ? Please advise . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 2:20:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.FreeBSD.org.uk [194.242.139.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD1237B405 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 02:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id f9Q9Jo280290; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:19:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9Q8fsY43205; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:41:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <200110260841.f9Q8fsY43205@grimreaper.grondar.org> To: Kelvin Ng Chee Hoong Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Change Prompt References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011026120935.00a4e4e0@po.pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011026120935.00a4e4e0@po.pacific.net.sg> ; from Kelvin Ng Chee Hoong "Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:18:36 +0800." Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:41:54 +0100 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Please ask these questions on questions@freebsd.org M > Hi ; > I use bash shell in my FreeBSD machine . How do I change a promt from > "$" to "#" when I login as superuser from normal user to root ? > > > my .bashrc script looks as following ..... > > PS1="[\u@\h: \w]\$ " > alias ls='ls -F' > alias cp='cp -i' > alias mv='mv -i' > alias rm='rm -i > > > Another question , what is the function of PS2 and when to use it ? Please > advise .... > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- o Mark Murray \_ FreeBSD Services Limited O.\_ Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 2:39:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B8837B403 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 02:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id f9Q9dZ312731; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 02:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 02:39:35 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Kelvin Ng Chee Hoong , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Change Prompt Message-ID: <20011026023935.A12708@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Kelvin Ng Chee Hoong References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011026120935.00a4e4e0@po.pacific.net.sg> <200110260841.f9Q8fsY43205@grimreaper.grondar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110260841.f9Q8fsY43205@grimreaper.grondar.org>; from mark@grondar.za on Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 09:41:54AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Another question , what is the function of PS2 and when to use it ? Please > advise .... I advise you to use PS2="smokin'crack? > " as I do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 2:45:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.imp.ch (mail.imp.ch [157.161.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE7F37B405; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 02:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from levais.imp.ch (levais.imp.ch [157.161.4.66]) by mail.imp.ch (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f9Q9jEC61353; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:45:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Martin.Blapp@imp.ch) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:47:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Blapp To: Cc: Subject: winbindd support for samba Message-ID: <20011026113649.V23866-100000@levais.imp.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Is someone working on winbindd support for Free/NetBSD ? #man winbindd NAME winbindd - Name Service Switch daemon for resolving names from NT servers winbindd is a daemon that provides a service for the Name Service Switch capability that is present in most modern C libraries. The Name Service Switch allows user and system information to be obtained from different databases ser- vices such as NIS or DNS. The exact behaviour can be con- figured throught the /etc/nsswitch.conf file. Users and groups are allocated as they are resolved to a range of user and group ids specified by the administrator of the Samba system. Btw, since we don't support winbindd, the samba-devel port should not install the manpage :-/ A winbind deamon is really needed if you have a big environment and you don't want to add all the time MACHINE$ entrys to /etc/passwd, on which samba depends if you have samba acting as a PDC. Winbindd(8) depends on nsswitch support. We have some nsswitch support, but NOT the sun API we could use to complile free available programms like samba. Linux has a SUN compatible NSS implementation. So either we fix or NSS implementation, or we modify with patches the winbindd to support FreeBSD too. Suggestions ? PS: IMHO this is a real issue and we should look how we can soon have a working winbindd on BSD. 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To: Kelvin Ng Chee Hoong Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrade Apache Web Server References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011026160025.00a420a0@po.pacific.net.sg> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 26 Oct 2001 17:40:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011026160025.00a420a0@po.pacific.net.sg> Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kelvin Ng Chee Hoong writes: > I have installed apache web server (Version 1.3.20) from port > collection . How do I upgrade this software to version 1.3.22 from > port collection ? Please advise . For the last time, -current is *not* the appropriate place to ask such questions. Please use questions@freebsd.org or newbies@freebsd.org instead. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 8:46:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E0A37B401 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 08:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id AADC014C2E; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 17:46:39 +0200 (CEST) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: current Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current References: <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <200110250027.f9P0RB736961@harmony.village.org> <20011025221011.E97313@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 26 Oct 2001 17:46:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20011025221011.E97313@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Message-ID: Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gerhard Sittig writes: > What I've always been wondering since Kris first mentioned this > technique in the thread's course (building -STABLE in a jail on > a -RELEASE host or vice versa, IIUC) was the following: There's > the host's kernel serving a differing world's userland. We all > know what's the usual answer to "I just updated my kernel and > now -- insert whatever you please -- stopped working. :) What > did I miss? Or is it plain luck when things just work and one > shouldn't ask why they do? :> The answer is that the tools used to build world *generally* aren't affected by changes in the kernel. The stuff that usually breaks when your kernel is out of synch (ps, top, ipfw...) isn't needed to build world. Of course, there are exceptions, like trying to run a 4.x or 5.x world on a pre-sigset_t kernel. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 9:16:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hal-5.inet.it (hal-5.inet.it [213.92.5.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A3237B401 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by hal-5.inet.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f9QGGFN205060 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:16:15 +0200 Received: from unknown(213.92.1.190) by hal-5.inet.it via I-SMTP id s-213.92.1.190-Iq0hWA; Fri Oct 26 18:16:15 2001 Received: (qmail 8016 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Oct 2001 16:16:12 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:16:12 +0200 From: Andrea Campi To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -CURRENT freeze under high load Message-ID: <20011026181612.A7800@webcom.it> References: <20011024153151.A75454@webcom.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011024153151.A75454@webcom.it>; from andrea@webcom.it on Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 03:31:51PM +0200 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Looks like the problem below is caused by this commit: dwmalone 2001/10/04 06:11:48 PDT Modified files: lib/libc/rpc clnt_vc.c svc_vc.c sbin/mount_portalfs activate.c sys/kern uipc_socket.c uipc_usrreq.c sys/netgraph ng_socket.c sys/sys domain.h un.h usr.sbin/ppp bundle.c ACPI, which I previously wrongly blamed, isn't involved in any way. Right now I am running a very recent -CURRENT, modulo this commit and more recent commits to the same files, i.e. I updated using: # cvs -q -R update -A -P -d # cvs -q -R update -D'Oct 04 15:11' kern/kern_proc.c kern/kern_prot.c kern/uipc_socket.c kern/uipc_usrreq.c netgraph/ng_socket.c netinet/ip_fw.c netinet/raw_ip.c netinet/tcp_subr.c netinet/udp_usrreq.c sys/domain.h sys/socketvar.h sys/un.h All my problems are now gone. This sort of makes sense to me, as the culprit, qmail, is quite socket intensive. Anybody has any idea how to properly fix? Bye, Andrea On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 03:31:51PM +0200, Andrea Campi wrote: > Hi all, > > I am trying to diagnose a problem I've been having for a few weeks (I didn't > report it earlier because I didn't have much time to hunt for it). > > The symptom is a total system freeze, i.e. I can't get into DDB. I can repeat > it only with qmail, but of course I don't think it's qmail specific in any way; > probably something to do with locking. To reproduce it I run: > > find . -type f | xargs mutt (on my machine, all emails get delivered to me) > > A kernel from Oct 1 doesn't have this issue; a kernel from Oct 5 has. I'll > start binary searching for a commit I can blame. > > Anybody seen anything like this? -- It is easier to fix Unix than to live with NT. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 9:23:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-3.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC8437B405 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 14AB266B0E; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:23:08 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: current Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current Message-ID: <20011026092308.B54311@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <200110250027.f9P0RB736961@harmony.village.org> <20011025221011.E97313@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011025221011.E97313@shell.gsinet.sittig.org>; from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net on Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 10:10:11PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 10:10:11PM +0200, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 18:27 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > >=20 > > At timing solutions, we build all our products in a chroot jail. [...] > >=20 > > We don't build RELEASES in the chroot. We build a system (make world > > DESTDIR=3Dxxx outside of the chroot) that we then use to build the > > system (inside the chroot). >=20 > What I've always been wondering since Kris first mentioned this > technique in the thread's course (building -STABLE in a jail on > a -RELEASE host or vice versa, IIUC) was the following: There's > the host's kernel serving a differing world's userland. We all > know what's the usual answer to "I just updated my kernel and > now -- insert whatever you please -- stopped working. :) What > did I miss? Or is it plain luck when things just work and one > shouldn't ask why they do? :> Things which still rely on libkvm don't work in the jail if it's different than the host version. Under -current there are many more things which use sysctls to obtain their data from the kernel, so the problem is getting less severe. Kris --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE72Y3sWry0BWjoQKURAimjAJ99Am4VGH4DtZYQ3wO8U2FWVOY8/gCfZmQx jtOA5BTEbc2y2WTK83cNFeM= =R+li -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 9:26:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-3.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362D437B401 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DF14166D2A; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:26:07 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Terry Lambert Cc: Gerhard Sittig , current Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current Message-ID: <20011026092607.C54311@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <200110250027.f9P0RB736961@harmony.village.org> <20011025221011.E97313@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> <3BD9086A.54460841@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="f+W+jCU1fRNres8c" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BD9086A.54460841@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 11:53:30PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --f+W+jCU1fRNres8c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 11:53:30PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > I have a 10k shell script for doing this. It copies in all the > stuff from the parent system which is important to match to the > real kernel, including /kernel, the "ps" program, and basically > all other programs that open /dev/kmem or link against libkvm. I'd love to see this. I've daydreamed about magic scripts to automatically install a port/package in its own minimalist jail by auto-populating it with the things it requires (a minimal /etc, appropriate shared libraries, etc). This script might be useful towards that goal. Kris --f+W+jCU1fRNres8c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE72Y6fWry0BWjoQKURAuojAKDSHEx1CaNharifqv/YA3eNGEZTfwCgwuXV 7wPjpJvIf65b+OO4I/4uepU= =JTrM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f+W+jCU1fRNres8c-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 9:40: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972CD37B408 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-209.247.142.186.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.247.142.186] helo=mindspring.com) by robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15xA0j-0006WF-00; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:39:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3BD991DF.DCCE06CD@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:39:59 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Gerhard Sittig , current Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current References: <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <200110250027.f9P0RB736961@harmony.village.org> <20011025221011.E97313@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > The answer is that the tools used to build world *generally* aren't > affected by changes in the kernel. The stuff that usually breaks when > your kernel is out of synch (ps, top, ipfw...) isn't needed to build > world. Of course, there are exceptions, like trying to run a 4.x or > 5.x world on a pre-sigset_t kernel. There's some code that depends on the current kernel version, as obtained from the preprocessor, in order to build. The preprocessor gets this from the sysctl. This type of thing is rare, but there is caode that is variant based on FreeBSD version. For the FreeBSD code itself, this variance is generally hidden in the CVS repository, under the asumption that you will attempt to build your userspace from code that matches your kernel. I've only been bitten twice by this in the history of FreeBSD, but there have been opportunities for this type of thing to happen a dozen times or so. The bottom line is that if you are going to be following the code very closely, expect to get bitten 1.5 times a year (not bad at all). If you are a little more careful in when you choose to grab the code, then you can reduce this risk to two times in ten years (like I have experienced, using FreeBSD or its progenitor for the last decade). If you use the chroot method, then the problem will end up being practically non-existant. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 9:48:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF3737B403 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-209.247.142.186.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.247.142.186] helo=mindspring.com) by robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15xA9O-0000aR-00; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:48:07 -0700 Message-ID: <3BD993FB.F33B5357@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:48:59 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Gerhard Sittig , current Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current References: <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <200110250027.f9P0RB736961@harmony.village.org> <20011025221011.E97313@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> <20011026092308.B54311@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > What I've always been wondering since Kris first mentioned this > > technique in the thread's course (building -STABLE in a jail on > > a -RELEASE host or vice versa, IIUC) was the following: There's > > the host's kernel serving a differing world's userland. We all > > know what's the usual answer to "I just updated my kernel and > > now -- insert whatever you please -- stopped working. :) What > > did I miss? Or is it plain luck when things just work and one > > shouldn't ask why they do? :> > > Things which still rely on libkvm don't work in the jail if it's > different than the host version. Under -current there are many more > things which use sysctls to obtain their data from the kernel, so the > problem is getting less severe. You copy the host versions of these programs in, of course. Why do you think my shell script is 10k instead of 1k? -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 9:48:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B046537B403 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-209.247.142.186.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.247.142.186] helo=mindspring.com) by robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15xAA4-0001MI-00; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:48:49 -0700 Message-ID: <3BD99426.CECA9B49@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:49:42 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Gerhard Sittig , current Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current References: <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <200110250027.f9P0RB736961@harmony.village.org> <20011025221011.E97313@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> <3BD9086A.54460841@mindspring.com> <20011026092607.C54311@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 11:53:30PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > I have a 10k shell script for doing this. It copies in all the > > stuff from the parent system which is important to match to the > > real kernel, including /kernel, the "ps" program, and basically > > all other programs that open /dev/kmem or link against libkvm. > > I'd love to see this. > > I've daydreamed about magic scripts to automatically install a > port/package in its own minimalist jail by auto-populating it with the > things it requires (a minimal /etc, appropriate shared libraries, > etc). This script might be useful towards that goal. I'll clean it up and send it to you. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 9:52:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A241C37B40B for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 26 Oct 2001 17:52:39 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 17:52:37 +0100 From: David Malone To: Andrea Campi Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -CURRENT freeze under high load Message-ID: <20011026175237.A33082@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20011024153151.A75454@webcom.it> <20011026181612.A7800@webcom.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011026181612.A7800@webcom.it>; from andrea@webcom.it on Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:16:12PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:16:12PM +0200, Andrea Campi wrote: > All my problems are now gone. This sort of makes sense to me, as the culprit, > qmail, is quite socket intensive. > > Anybody has any idea how to properly fix? This patch changed quite a few things, so it's not obvious exactly what is causing the problem. Do you know if qmail does any discriptor passing? The code makes discriptor passing a bit more mbuf intensive, so it's possible that you're running your machine out of mbufs. I know qmail tends to run machines as hard as it can, so it may have run the machine into the ground. Also, are you running on alpha or i386? David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 9:58:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nebula.anchoragerescue.org (cable-115-7-237-24.anchorageak.net [24.237.7.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C778D37B407 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there (galaxy.anchoragerescue.org [24.237.7.95]) by nebula.anchoragerescue.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C16F897 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 08:57:08 -0800 (AKDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: kernel build error Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 08:57:08 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011026165708.C16F897@nebula.anchoragerescue.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today's -current build fails on my box with the following: linking kernel vm_fault.o: In function `vm_fault1': vm_fault.o(.text+0x941): undefined reference to `vm_object_set_writeable_dirty' vm_page.o In function `vm_page_insert': vm_page.o(.text+0x4c2): undefined reference to `vm_object_set_writeable_dirty' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GALAXY. *** Error code 1 Beech -- Micro$oft: "Where can we make you go today?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - IT Manager - Instructor - akbeech@anchoragerescue.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Anchorage Gospel Rescue Mission \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | P.O. Box 230510 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99523-0510 / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 10:12:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hal-5.inet.it (hal-5.inet.it [213.92.5.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7A937B407 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by hal-5.inet.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f9QHCRP175292 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 19:12:27 +0200 Received: from unknown(213.92.1.190) by hal-5.inet.it via I-SMTP id s-213.92.1.190-jYbIPg; Fri Oct 26 19:12:27 2001 Received: (qmail 17942 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Oct 2001 17:12:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 19:12:24 +0200 From: Andrea Campi To: David Malone Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -CURRENT freeze under high load Message-ID: <20011026191224.B7800@webcom.it> References: <20011024153151.A75454@webcom.it> <20011026181612.A7800@webcom.it> <20011026175237.A33082@walton.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011026175237.A33082@walton.maths.tcd.ie>; from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie on Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 05:52:37PM +0100 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 05:52:37PM +0100, David Malone wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:16:12PM +0200, Andrea Campi wrote: > > All my problems are now gone. This sort of makes sense to me, as the culprit, > > qmail, is quite socket intensive. > > > > Anybody has any idea how to properly fix? > > This patch changed quite a few things, so it's not obvious exactly > what is causing the problem. I know. I'd like to look deeper into the issue, but from a quick glance at the code, I don't think I could figure out a way to separate those "things" and try each one. Do you happen to have separate patches for them, that I could try? > Do you know if qmail does any discriptor passing? The code makes > discriptor passing a bit more mbuf intensive, so it's possible that > you're running your machine out of mbufs. I know qmail tends to > run machines as hard as it can, so it may have run the machine into > the ground. I'm not 100% sure of how to check, but a grep SOL_SOCKET * in the sources didn't return anything. Also, from what I can understand without really reading all of that #@#@ DJB code, qmail mainly uses pipe and 2 or 3 fifos. AFAIK your commit wasn't intended to change that, but is it possible that a bug did sneak in? Anyway, both ways I can trigger the bug (find . -type f | xargs mutt, and actually running fetchmail -a) do generate a LOT of work, so it's actually possible that your diagnosis (mbuf exhaustion) is correct; trouble is, this shouln't hurt the machine to the point I can't even enter DDB. > > Also, are you running on alpha or i386? i386, IBM Thinkpad 570E (not that it being a laptop makes any difference, of course ;-)) Bye, Andrea -- Intel: where Quality is job number 0.9998782345! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 10:30:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9F3A37B403 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 26 Oct 2001 18:30:48 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:30:47 +0100 From: David Malone To: Andrea Campi Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -CURRENT freeze under high load Message-ID: <20011026183047.A33995@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20011024153151.A75454@webcom.it> <20011026181612.A7800@webcom.it> <20011026175237.A33082@walton.maths.tcd.ie> <20011026191224.B7800@webcom.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011026191224.B7800@webcom.it>; from andrea@webcom.it on Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 07:12:24PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 07:12:24PM +0200, Andrea Campi wrote: > I know. I'd like to look deeper into the issue, but from a quick glance at the > code, I don't think I could figure out a way to separate those "things" and tr > each one. Do you happen to have separate patches for them, that I could try? It's a bit hard to seperate the bits out, which is why it happened as one commit. I'll see if I can come up with something to segregate the code out a bit. One possibility would be to add a printf to the internalise and externalise functions in uipc_usrreq.c - that way we can see if it is actually executing the code there. If it's not, then that narrows things down a bit. > in the sources didn't return anything. Also, from what I can understand withou > really reading all of that #@#@ DJB code, qmail mainly uses pipe and 2 or 3 > fifos. AFAIK your commit wasn't intended to change that, but is it possible > that a bug did sneak in? Hmm - I don't think my code should have changed fifos or pipes at all. > Anyway, both ways I can trigger the bug (find . -type f | xargs mutt, and > actually running fetchmail -a) do generate a LOT of work, so it's actually > possible that your diagnosis (mbuf exhaustion) is correct; trouble is, this > shouln't hurt the machine to the point I can't even enter DDB. Maybe I'll try installing qmail at home and reproducing the problem. > > Also, are you running on alpha or i386? > > i386, IBM Thinkpad 570E (not that it being a laptop makes any difference, of > course ;-)) OK - that eliminates one possibility ;-) David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 11: 5:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC5F37B401 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f9QI5CG72597; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:05:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:05:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200110261805.f9QI5CG72597@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cu(1) (Was: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/mtree BSD.var.dist) In-Reply-To: <200110261659.f9QGxXY47978@grimreaper.grondar.org> References: <200110261659.f9QGxXY47978@grimreaper.grondar.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > Do you have a problem with cu being a port and not in the base system? > (ie, a port that gives you _just_ cu with no other UUCP crap?) I think that's a POLA question; I have no fundamental objection. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 11:51: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6F437B411 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 75755 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2001 18:50:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Oct 2001 18:50:41 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20011026165708.C16F897@nebula.anchoragerescue.org> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:50:40 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Beech Rintoul Subject: RE: kernel build error Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 26-Oct-01 Beech Rintoul wrote: > Today's -current build fails on my box with the following: > > linking kernel > vm_fault.o: In function `vm_fault1': > vm_fault.o(.text+0x941): undefined reference to > `vm_object_set_writeable_dirty' > vm_page.o In function `vm_page_insert': > vm_page.o(.text+0x4c2): undefined reference to > `vm_object_set_writeable_dirty' > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GALAXY. > *** Error code 1 It's already fixed. re-cvsup. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 14: 2:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2370937B407 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.11.6/8.9.1) id f9QL2M738560; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:02:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:02:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200110262102.f9QL2M738560@apollo.backplane.com> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Giant mutex wrappers implemented, starting wrapping work. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Everyone who is working on Giant unwinding should be aware of the new giant wrapper routines which allow us to control whether Giant is turned on around a subsystem with sysctls. There are several sysctls: kern.giant.all kern.giant.proc kern.giant.file kern.giant.(etc...) kern.giant.all defaults to 0 (off). If set to 1 it forces the Giant wrappers to be turned on for all subsystems regardless of the state of other kern.giant. sysctls. If set to 0 then Giant is wrapped around subsystems based on the value of the other kern.giant. sysctls. General developers should *NOT* mess with any of these sysctls for the moment. As various subsystems get wrapped, those doing the Giant unwinding work will be able to use these sysctls to turn off Giant and test their work. Those doing Giant unwinding work will also be able to request that other developers test their work by turning off Giant around a subsystem, yet still be able to maintain reasonably stable -current systems for their own work. Portions of routines that manipulate multiple subsystems may require that all related Giant management sysctls be turned off in order to turn off Giant around the routines in question. Here is an example use for the new wrappers: /* * MPSAFE */ /* ARGSUSED */ int getpid(td, uap) struct thread *td; struct getpid_args *uap; { struct proc *p = td->td_proc; int s; s = mtx_lock_giant(kern_giant_proc); td->td_retval[0] = p->p_pid; #if defined(COMPAT_43) || defined(COMPAT_SUNOS) PROC_LOCK(p); td->td_retval[1] = p->p_pptr->p_pid; PROC_UNLOCK(p); #endif mtx_unlock_giant(s); return (0); } In this example mtx_lock_giant() is called with kern_giant_proc (the kern.giant.proc sysctl value) as an argument. The routine returns whether Giant was actually locked or not. The return value must be passed to a matching mtx_unlock_giant() later on. (This allows the sysctl variables to change state out from under the system without blowing things up). I am going to begin instrumenting the proc and file code with these wrappers. I would be very happy to see Alfred, John, and others working on the Giant wrappers to also start using the wrappers. I believe that the move to force people to start using the main tree again was a good one that I believe that these routines will greatly improve the speed at which -current developers are able to work. Those people who are working on subsystems should feel free to add additional Giant wrapper variables and sysctls to kern/kern_mutex.c. Note that these are long term mechanisms, it will probably be several years of diminishing bugs before we work the races out. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 16:16: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE36737B401 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 8C2B614C40; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 01:16:05 +0200 (CEST) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Beech Rintoul Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel build error References: <20011026165708.C16F897@nebula.anchoragerescue.org> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 27 Oct 2001 01:16:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20011026165708.C16F897@nebula.anchoragerescue.org> Message-ID: Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Beech Rintoul writes: > Today's -current build fails on my box with the following: I think it's safe to say, as a general rule, that whenever you hit a build error (as opposed to a run-time bug) you should wait a couple of hours, re-cvsup, rebuild, and check that the problem is still there before you ask the lists about it. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 16:41:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-3.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782D337B403 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E22AD66B10; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:41:35 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Terry Lambert Cc: Kris Kennaway , Gerhard Sittig , current Subject: Re: RELENG_4 builds on -current Message-ID: <20011026164135.A58959@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <008701c15a9d$0805aec0$0a9811cb@gccs.com.au> <20011022142401.A3569@xor.obsecurity.org> <200110250027.f9P0RB736961@harmony.village.org> <20011025221011.E97313@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> <3BD9086A.54460841@mindspring.com> <20011026092607.C54311@xor.obsecurity.org> <3BD99426.CECA9B49@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BD99426.CECA9B49@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 09:49:42AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 09:49:42AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > >=20 > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 11:53:30PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > >=20 > > > I have a 10k shell script for doing this. It copies in all the > > > stuff from the parent system which is important to match to the > > > real kernel, including /kernel, the "ps" program, and basically > > > all other programs that open /dev/kmem or link against libkvm. > >=20 > > I'd love to see this. > >=20 > > I've daydreamed about magic scripts to automatically install a > > port/package in its own minimalist jail by auto-populating it with the > > things it requires (a minimal /etc, appropriate shared libraries, > > etc). This script might be useful towards that goal. >=20 > I'll clean it up and send it to you. Thanks! Kris --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE72fSvWry0BWjoQKURAqTAAKDG5kd52q97ApvtdzRreVgKgngpAACfX9Nz oQAu71lVT4dkQhQxNZYCOcc= =TEgy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 20:15:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from silby.com (cb34181-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.14.173.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B995537B407 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 88479 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Oct 2001 03:15:11 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Oct 2001 03:15:11 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 22:15:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Silbersack To: Subject: devfs question Message-ID: <20011026220946.X88389-100000@achilles.silby.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quick question for those devfs inclined: I was just copying my -current box over to a new harddrive. I do the cp -R -p process, and it worked fine, except for one problem: I tried to make my job easier, and decided not to copy /dev over, given that we have devfs. When I rebooted on the new drive, the box froze at the Mounting root from: prompt. It turned out that simply creating a /dev with no files in it solved the problem and made devfs happy. So, my question is this: Does /dev really need to exist in a devfs world? I assumed not, since procfs doesn't have a pre-existing /proc, but I don't know where to look to find out what the correct answer is in this case. Mike "Silby" Silbersack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 26 20:27: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from silby.com (cb34181-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.14.173.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29BE37B401 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 88512 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Oct 2001 03:26:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Oct 2001 03:26:59 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 22:26:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Silbersack To: Subject: Re: devfs question In-Reply-To: <20011026220946.X88389-100000@achilles.silby.com> Message-ID: <20011026222548.L88389-100000@achilles.silby.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Mike Silbersack wrote: > So, my question is this: Does /dev really need to exist in a devfs world? > I assumed not, since procfs doesn't have a pre-existing /proc, but I don't > know where to look to find out what the correct answer is in this case. > > Mike "Silby" Silbersack Oops, error on my part; /proc does need to exist. So, I guess the question is this: Can devfs's error handling in the case of /dev being non-existant be improved? Thanks, Mike "Silby" Silbersack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 0:35:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE90C37B403 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 00:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9R7YjS10431; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 09:34:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Mike Silbersack Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: devfs question In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 26 Oct 2001 22:15:11 CDT." <20011026220946.X88389-100000@achilles.silby.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 09:34:45 +0200 Message-ID: <10429.1004168085@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20011026220946.X88389-100000@achilles.silby.com>, Mike Silbersack w rites: >Quick question for those devfs inclined: > >I was just copying my -current box over to a new harddrive. I do the cp >-R -p process, and it worked fine, except for one problem: I tried to >make my job easier, and decided not to copy /dev over, given that we have >devfs. When I rebooted on the new drive, the box froze at the Mounting >root from: prompt. > >It turned out that simply creating a /dev with no files in it solved the >problem and made devfs happy. > >So, my question is this: Does /dev really need to exist in a devfs world? Yes, what else would you mount DEVFS on ? >I assumed not, since procfs doesn't have a pre-existing /proc, but I don't >know where to look to find out what the correct answer is in this case. It does. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 0:36:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D260B37B409 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 00:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9R7a5S10462; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 09:36:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Mike Silbersack Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: devfs question In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 26 Oct 2001 22:26:59 CDT." <20011026222548.L88389-100000@achilles.silby.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 09:36:05 +0200 Message-ID: <10460.1004168165@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20011026222548.L88389-100000@achilles.silby.com>, Mike Silbersack w rites: > >On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Mike Silbersack wrote: > >> So, my question is this: Does /dev really need to exist in a devfs world? >> I assumed not, since procfs doesn't have a pre-existing /proc, but I don't >> know where to look to find out what the correct answer is in this case. >> >> Mike "Silby" Silbersack > >Oops, error on my part; /proc does need to exist. So, I guess the >question is this: Can devfs's error handling in the case of /dev being >non-existant be improved? Barely, because without /dev, how do you plan to open the console ? Mkdir(/dev) isn't an option because the rootfs is mounted R/O. About the only thing one could do is make init exit(bla) and get a diagnostic from the kernel. It may make sense to do that. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 2:27:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from silby.com (cb34181-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.14.173.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5590237B401 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 02:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 92273 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Oct 2001 09:27:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Oct 2001 09:27:29 -0000 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 04:27:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Silbersack To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Subject: Re: devfs question In-Reply-To: <10460.1004168165@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: <20011027042527.T88536-100000@achilles.silby.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >Oops, error on my part; /proc does need to exist. So, I guess the > >question is this: Can devfs's error handling in the case of /dev being > >non-existant be improved? > > Barely, because without /dev, how do you plan to open the console ? > > Mkdir(/dev) isn't an option because the rootfs is mounted R/O. > > About the only thing one could do is make init exit(bla) and get > a diagnostic from the kernel. It may make sense to do that. An error message would be sufficient; my concern was that someone might run into this and spend hours trying to figure out which of X variables was the problem. Mike "Silby" Silbersack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 2:32:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C99D37B407 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 02:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9R9W7S12049; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:32:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Mike Silbersack Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: devfs question In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 27 Oct 2001 04:27:29 CDT." <20011027042527.T88536-100000@achilles.silby.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:32:07 +0200 Message-ID: <12047.1004175127@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20011027042527.T88536-100000@achilles.silby.com>, Mike Silbersack w rites: > >On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> >Oops, error on my part; /proc does need to exist. So, I guess the >> >question is this: Can devfs's error handling in the case of /dev being >> >non-existant be improved? >> >> Barely, because without /dev, how do you plan to open the console ? >> >> Mkdir(/dev) isn't an option because the rootfs is mounted R/O. >> >> About the only thing one could do is make init exit(bla) and get >> a diagnostic from the kernel. It may make sense to do that. > >An error message would be sufficient; my concern was that someone >might run into this and spend hours trying to figure out which of X >variables was the problem. Right, but the only way to get an error message is to let /sbin/init die and have the kernel print the message. /sbin/init cannot print the message when there is no "/dev/console" can it ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 2:41: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from silby.com (cb34181-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.14.173.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE34837B401 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 02:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 92324 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Oct 2001 09:41:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Oct 2001 09:41:04 -0000 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 04:41:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Silbersack To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Subject: Re: devfs question In-Reply-To: <12047.1004175127@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: <20011027043704.F88536-100000@achilles.silby.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >An error message would be sufficient; my concern was that someone > >might run into this and spend hours trying to figure out which of X > >variables was the problem. > > Right, but the only way to get an error message is to let /sbin/init > die and have the kernel print the message. /sbin/init cannot > print the message when there is no "/dev/console" can it ? > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 I'm in over my head on this one; I really don't know anything about the boot process. Having init die if there's no /dev sounds acceptable to me. After all, if there's no /dev, the system looks like it's in trouble. (If this does not make sense, reference above paragraph.) Mike "Silby" Silbersack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 4:38: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3A1637B403 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 04:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from turing.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 27 Oct 2001 12:37:57 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 12:37:56 +0100 From: David Malone To: Andrea Campi Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -CURRENT freeze under high load Message-ID: <20011027123756.A22438@turing.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20011024153151.A75454@webcom.it> <20011026181612.A7800@webcom.it> <20011026175237.A33082@walton.maths.tcd.ie> <20011026191224.B7800@webcom.it> <20011026183047.A33995@walton.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <20011026183047.A33995@walton.maths.tcd.ie>; from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie on Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:30:47PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:30:47PM +0100, David Malone wrote: > > Anyway, both ways I can trigger the bug (find . -type f | xargs mutt, and > > actually running fetchmail -a) do generate a LOT of work, so it's actually > > possible that your diagnosis (mbuf exhaustion) is correct; trouble is, this > > shouln't hurt the machine to the point I can't even enter DDB. > > Maybe I'll try installing qmail at home and reproducing the problem. I've installed qmail and managed to reproduce the problem. I've also managed to get a trace using a serial console and it was stuck in something like unp_scan after closing a pipe. I've got a fair idea of where the problem is now, so I should be able to track it down. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 6:29: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dada.it (mail2.dada.it [195.110.96.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86E2A37B406 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 06:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3951 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2001 13:28:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO torrini.org) (195.110.114.101) by mail.dada.it with SMTP; 27 Oct 2001 13:28:56 -0000 Received: (from riccardo@localhost) by torrini.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9RDSpw24862; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:28:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from riccardo) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.1 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:28:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo Torrini To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: XFmail and libc.so.3 Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To upgrade from xfree-3 to xfree-4 I removed all my installed ports but I lost mail program (I use XFMail, sorry for this :-) It compile and install fine but crashes with this message: The application crashed due to fatal error All unfinished messages were saved _: Report the bug with all the relevant information using the "Bug report" facility Missing or failed fl_initialize()--Invalid argument I tryed demos from xform and they works, so I examied source of xfmail and discovered that is use libc.so.3, seems that xforms crashes with original libc.so.3 and works with libc.so.5 I installed compat3x from ports and recompiled world three times (sigh) also with recent cvsup (last update this morning, GMT+1) with COMPAT3X=yes and COMPAT4X=yes in /etc/make.conf but it crashes the same. Finally I tryed this (HACK?) and it works for me. -----8<-----[ before ]-----8<----- # ldconfig -r | grep libc.so 33:-lc.5 => /usr/lib/libc.so.5 67:-lc.3 => /usr/lib/compat/libc.so.3 89:-lc.4 => /usr/lib/compat/libc.so.4 -----8<-----[ hack ]-----8<----- # cd /usr/lib # mv compat/libc.so.3 compat/libc.so.3-NO_THANKS # ln -s libc.so libc.so.3 -----8<-----[ after ]-----8<----- # ldconfig -r | grep libc.so 33:-lc.5 => /usr/lib/libc.so.5 66:-lc.3 => /usr/lib/libc.so.3 89:-lc.4 => /usr/lib/compat/libc.so.4 And now XFMail works :-) This is my first message after a week of blackout... Riccardo. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 8: 2:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE21237B401 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f9RF2s386208; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:02:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:02:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200110271502.f9RF2s386208@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: devfs question In-Reply-To: <12047.1004175127@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <20011027042527.T88536-100000@achilles.silby.com> <12047.1004175127@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > Right, but the only way to get an error message is to let /sbin/init > die and have the kernel print the message. /sbin/init cannot > print the message when there is no "/dev/console" can it ? Yes, it can, if the kernel does the right then when hand-crafting the `init' process to ensure that the console is already open rather than making `init' do it. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 8:27:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A6F37B403 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9RFRCS15688; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 17:27:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Garrett Wollman Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: devfs question In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:02:54 EDT." <200110271502.f9RF2s386208@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 17:27:12 +0200 Message-ID: <15686.1004196432@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200110271502.f9RF2s386208@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, Garrett Wollman w rites: >< said: > >> Right, but the only way to get an error message is to let /sbin/init >> die and have the kernel print the message. /sbin/init cannot >> print the message when there is no "/dev/console" can it ? > >Yes, it can, if the kernel does the right then when hand-crafting the >`init' process to ensure that the console is already open rather than >making `init' do it. Not a bad idea, but currently not implemented. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 11:48:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B2E8D37B401 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 27 Oct 2001 19:48:14 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 19:48:13 +0100 From: David Malone To: Andrea Campi Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -CURRENT freeze under high load Message-ID: <20011027194813.A57243@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20011024153151.A75454@webcom.it> <20011026181612.A7800@webcom.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011026181612.A7800@webcom.it>; from andrea@webcom.it on Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:16:12PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:16:12PM +0200, Andrea Campi wrote: > Anybody has any idea how to properly fix? Can you test the following patch? David. Index: uipc_usrreq.c =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/FreeBSD-CVS/src/sys/kern/uipc_usrreq.c,v retrieving revision 1.74 diff -u -r1.74 uipc_usrreq.c --- uipc_usrreq.c 9 Oct 2001 21:40:30 -0000 1.74 +++ uipc_usrreq.c 27 Oct 2001 18:30:56 -0000 @@ -1420,7 +1420,7 @@ while (m0) { for (m = m0; m; m = m->m_next) { - if (m->m_type == MT_CONTROL) + if (m->m_type != MT_CONTROL) continue; cm = mtod(m, struct cmsghdr *); To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 12:35:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB61437B403 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 12:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9RJZQw78471 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 23:35:26 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 23:35:25 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: device.hints & PCI detection conflict Message-ID: <20011027233525.B78241@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bootverbose shows that second copy of devices appearse on ASUS CUSL2-C or TUSL2-C: atkbdc-: atkbdc0 already exists, using atkbdc1 instead sc-: sc0 already exists, using sc1 instead vga-: vga0 already exists, using vga1 instead vga-: line is especially dangerous since cause fake second VGA detection (as MDA) which cause panic with recent "duplicate make_dev panics" commit. It looks like conflict with /boot/device.hints here. If I remove this line hint.sc.0.at="isa" from device.hints, no fake second VGA appearse (the bug is gone), BUT... I have absolutely NO console output. If I put this line back, console oputput appearse and bug too. Removing atkbdc & vga hints from device.hints cause atkbdc- & vga- lines gone, which indicates conflict too. But sc hint can't be removed because it results with no console output. Please fix it somehow. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 13: 0:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (camus.noos.net [212.198.2.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B7837B401 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 13:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 88528159 invoked by uid 0); 27 Oct 2001 20:00:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.229.145]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.70 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 27 Oct 2001 20:00:47 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9RK0jn71364; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:00:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200110272000.f9RK0jn71364@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: adding athlon xp to bsd.cpu.mk To: freebsd-stable , freebsd-current Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:00:44 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-Face: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL94c (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, how about the following patch (untested) regarding the newer athlon xp processor type ? if needed, I could submit a PR. Index: bsd.cpu.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk,v retrieving revision 1.2.2.4 diff -u -r1.2.2.4 bsd.cpu.mk --- bsd.cpu.mk 2001/03/21 11:43:20 1.2.2.4 +++ bsd.cpu.mk 2001/10/27 19:56:42 @@ -17,6 +17,8 @@ CPUTYPE = i686 . elif ${CPUTYPE} == "pentium" CPUTYPE = i586 +. elif ${CPUTYPE} == "athlonxp" +CPUTYPE = xp . elif ${CPUTYPE} == "athlon" CPUTYPE = k7 . endif @@ -28,8 +30,10 @@ .if !defined(NO_CPU_CFLAGS) || !defined(NO_CPU_COPTFLAGS) . if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == "i386" -. if ${CPUTYPE} == "k7" +. if ${CPUTYPE} == "xp" _CPUCFLAGS = -march=k6 # gcc doesn't support athlon yet, but it will +. elif ${CPUTYPE} == "k7" +_CPUCFLAGS = -march=k6 # gcc doesn't support athlon yet, but it will . elif ${CPUTYPE} == "k6-2" _CPUCFLAGS = -march=k6 . elif ${CPUTYPE} == "k6" @@ -79,7 +83,9 @@ # presence of a CPU feature. .if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == "i386" -. if ${CPUTYPE} == "k7" +. if ${CPUTYPE} == "xp" +MACHINE_CPU = k7 3dnow sse mmx k6 k5 i586 i486 i386 +. elif ${CPUTYPE} == "k7" MACHINE_CPU = k7 3dnow mmx k6 k5 i586 i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} == "k6-2" MACHINE_CPU = 3dnow mmx k6 k5 i586 i486 i386 Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 13:30:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from thehutt.org (cj205544-a.alex1.va.home.com [67.160.12.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4065C37B405; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 13:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jerry by nomad.thehutt.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15xZz7-000Nnu-00; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 16:23:13 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 16:23:13 -0400 From: Jerry A! To: Cyrille Lefevre Cc: freebsd-stable , freebsd-current Subject: Re: adding athlon xp to bsd.cpu.mk Message-ID: <20011027162313.A91463@nomad.thehutt.org> Reply-To: jerry@thehutt.org References: <200110272000.f9RK0jn71364@gits.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110272000.f9RK0jn71364@gits.dyndns.org>; from clefevre@citeweb.net on Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:00:44PM +0200 Organization: Broken Toys Unlimited Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:00:44PM +0200, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: : Hi, : : how about the following patch (untested) regarding the newer athlon xp : processor type ? if needed, I could submit a PR. Shouldn't Athlons and AthlonXPs be able to use i686 (pentiumpro) instruction set optimizations? Also, what about putting in a mention for TransMeta Crusoe processors? --Jerry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 13:34:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A0237B403; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 13:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9RKY3d32507; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:34:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:34:03 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jerry A! Cc: Cyrille Lefevre , freebsd-stable , freebsd-current Subject: Re: adding athlon xp to bsd.cpu.mk Message-ID: <20011027223403.B20693@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200110272000.f9RK0jn71364@gits.dyndns.org> <20011027162313.A91463@nomad.thehutt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011027162313.A91463@nomad.thehutt.org>; from jerry@thehutt.org on Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 04:23:13PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 04:23:13PM -0400, Jerry A! wrote: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:00:44PM +0200, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > : Hi, > : > : how about the following patch (untested) regarding the newer athlon xp > : processor type ? if needed, I could submit a PR. > > Shouldn't Athlons and AthlonXPs be able to use i686 (pentiumpro) > instruction set optimizations? Yes, as in (e.g): CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (700.03-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x621 Stepping = 1 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0400000 real memory = 268353536 (262064K bytes) avail memory = 257609728 (251572K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0392000. Preloaded elf module "agp.ko" at 0xc039209c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 13:44: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.14.150.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EBB37B401; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 13:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f9RKi4M51390; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 13:44:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A8639F0; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 13:44:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: jerry@thehutt.org Cc: Cyrille Lefevre , freebsd-stable , freebsd-current Subject: Re: adding athlon xp to bsd.cpu.mk In-Reply-To: <20011027162313.A91463@nomad.thehutt.org> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 13:44:03 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20011027204403.D6A8639F0@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jerry A! wrote: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:00:44PM +0200, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > : Hi, > : > : how about the following patch (untested) regarding the newer athlon xp > : processor type ? if needed, I could submit a PR. > > Shouldn't Athlons and AthlonXPs be able to use i686 (pentiumpro) > instruction set optimizations? No. They are different cpu cores that have different optimization strategies. The patch doesn't include the AthlonMP which has the same core with both SSE and MMX. > Also, what about putting in a mention for TransMeta Crusoe processors? > > --Jerry > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 14:24:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from femail37.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail37.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F020C37B403; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 14:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ci989678-a.pop.uky.edu ([65.8.167.122]) by femail37.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011027212409.ITJX14145.femail37.sdc1.sfba.home.com@ci989678-a.pop.uky.edu>; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 14:24:09 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011027170901.00a55c50@pop.uky.edu> X-Sender: gchil0@pop.uky.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 17:24:14 -0400 To: freebsd-stable , freebsd-current From: Greg Childers Subject: Re: adding athlon xp to bsd.cpu.mk In-Reply-To: <20011027204403.D6A8639F0@overcee.netplex.com.au> References: <20011027162313.A91463@nomad.thehutt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Shouldn't Athlons and AthlonXPs be able to use i686 (pentiumpro) > > instruction set optimizations? > >No. They are different cpu cores that have different optimization >strategies. Yes, all Athlons can use i686 code while the k6's can't. Further, without doing any scientific testing, I would think the Athlon would do better with ppro optimized code than k6 optimized code thanks to the available i686 instructions. When GCC 3.0 is used, tho, this won't be an issue since it supports optimizations for the Athlon. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 14:30:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32CE37B403 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 14:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f9RLUn438790 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 14:30:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 14:30:49 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: kernel panic in getnewvnode Message-ID: <20011027143049.A38751@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kernel is from 20 Oct 2001 sources. I was running cvsup grabbing the latest sources into a clean /usr/src directory. Softupdate were enabled and vfs.vmiodirenable=1. -- Steve GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... (no debugging symbols found)... IdlePTD 3719168 initial pcb at 296180 panicstr: from debugger panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0xac fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc01b1959 stack pointer = 0x10:0xcea28924 frame pointer = 0x10:0xcea28948 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 461 (cvsup) panic: from debugger panic: from debugger Uptime: 26m27s (kgdb) bt #0 0xc017ce82 in dumpsys () #1 0xc017cc6f in boot () #2 0xc017d0a1 in panic () #3 0xc01307e1 in db_panic () #4 0xc013077f in db_command () #5 0xc013084b in db_command_loop () #6 0xc0132ae3 in db_trap () #7 0xc0212c4e in kdb_trap () #8 0xc021f5dc in trap_fatal () #9 0xc021f349 in trap_pfault () #10 0xc021eeec in trap () #11 0xc01b1959 in getnewvnode () #12 0xc01e8396 in ffs_vget () #13 0xc01d9dc1 in ffs_valloc () #14 0xc01ef56e in ufs_makeinode () #15 0xc01ece10 in ufs_create () #16 0xc01ef8d5 in ufs_vnoperate () #17 0xc01bab03 in vn_open () #17 0xc01bab03 in vn_open () #18 0xc01b60a2 in open () #19 0xc021f94f in syscall () #20 0xc0213cbd in syscall_with_err_pushed () #21 0x80a88b2 in ?? () #22 0x805f606 in ?? () #23 0x805cb7b in ?? () #24 0x805b8a4 in ?? () #25 0x805b443 in ?? () #26 0x80cf48d in ?? () #27 0x80cf346 in ?? () #28 0x80c6f70 in ?? () #29 0xe77efb39 in ?? () To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 17:30:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (zola.noos.net [212.198.2.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3071337B401 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 17:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10807775 invoked by uid 0); 28 Oct 2001 00:30:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.229.145]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.76 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 28 Oct 2001 00:30:44 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9S0UfW82593; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 02:30:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200110280030.f9S0UfW82593@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: adding athlon xp to bsd.cpu.mk In-Reply-To: <20011027204403.D6A8639F0@overcee.netplex.com.au> To: Peter Wemm Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 02:30:40 +0200 (CEST) Cc: jerry@thehutt.org, freebsd-stable , freebsd-current Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-Face: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL94c (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Wemm wrote: > Jerry A! wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:00:44PM +0200, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > > : Hi, > > : > > : how about the following patch (untested) regarding the newer athlon xp > > : processor type ? if needed, I could submit a PR. > > > > Shouldn't Athlons and AthlonXPs be able to use i686 (pentiumpro) > > instruction set optimizations? > > No. They are different cpu cores that have different optimization > strategies. > > The patch doesn't include the AthlonMP which has the same core with > both SSE and MMX. Athlon XP (commercial name) == Athlon MP (core name) Athlon (alias k7) already has MMX. the objective of this patch was to add SSE to the set of XP (alias MP) processors. Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 18:11:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B625737B405 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wonky.feral.com (wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9S1B8H07364; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:11:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:11:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Jonathan Lemon Cc: Subject: hmm... (fwd) Message-ID: <20011027181019.E71369-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually- not alpha. Happened under i386, so it seems like it might be more related to the general console changes.. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 16:43:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob To: Jonathan Lemon Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: hmm... Something from your changes or mine :-)? On a reboot: login: fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) cpuid = 0 faulting va = 0xb8 type = access violation cause = load instructon pc = 0xfffffc00003fd1d4 ra = 0xfffffc0000456720 sp = 0xfffffe000b4377f0 usp = 0x11ffe680 curproc = 0xfffffe000b1afe00 pid = 216, comm = syslogd Stopped at devsw+0x14: ldq t0,0xb8(a0) <0xb8> db> t devsw() at devsw+0x14 cn_devopen() at cn_devopen+0x40 cnopen() at cnopen+0x60 spec_open() at spec_open+0x1b4 spec_vnoperate() at spec_vnoperate+0x2c vn_open() at vn_open+0x410 open() at open+0xf0 syscall() at syscall+0x308 XentSys() at XentSys+0x64 --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF, open) --- --- user mode --- -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 18:14:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wint.itfs.nsk.su (wint.itfs.nsk.su [212.20.32.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCB737B405 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nnd@localhost) by wint.itfs.nsk.su (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f9S1EDI07417; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 07:14:13 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from nnd) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 07:14:13 +0600 (NOVT) Message-Id: <200110280114.f9S1EDI07417@wint.itfs.nsk.su> From: nnd@mail.nsk.ru (Nickolay Dudorov) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: device.hints & PCI detection conflict In-Reply-To: <20011027233525.B78241@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: tin/1.5.9-20010723 ("Chord of Souls") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/5.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <20011027233525.B78241@nagual.pp.ru> "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > Bootverbose shows that second copy of devices appearse on ASUS CUSL2-C or > TUSL2-C: > > atkbdc-: atkbdc0 already exists, using atkbdc1 instead > sc-: sc0 already exists, using sc1 instead > vga-: vga0 already exists, using vga1 instead > > vga-: line is especially dangerous since cause fake second VGA detection > (as MDA) which cause panic with recent "duplicate make_dev panics" commit. > > It looks like conflict with /boot/device.hints here. > If I remove this line > hint.sc.0.at="isa" > from device.hints, no fake second VGA appearse (the bug is gone), BUT... > I have absolutely NO console output. If I put this line back, console > oputput appearse and bug too. > > Removing atkbdc & vga hints from device.hints cause atkbdc- & vga- lines > gone, which indicates conflict too. But sc hint can't be removed because > it results with no console output. > > Please fix it somehow. In my case (ABIT's BP6 motherboard) the problem disapear after switching on ACPI (there is the problem with the fdc0 - "cannot reserve I/O port range (1 ports)" but now I can some time live without floppies :-). N.Dudorov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 18:54:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B25737B406 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9S1sbu84078; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 04:54:37 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 04:54:37 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Nickolay Dudorov Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: device.hints & PCI detection conflict Message-ID: <20011028045436.A84024@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20011027233525.B78241@nagual.pp.ru> <200110280114.f9S1EDI07417@wint.itfs.nsk.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200110280114.f9S1EDI07417@wint.itfs.nsk.su> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 07:14:13 +0600, Nickolay Dudorov wrote: > In article <20011027233525.B78241@nagual.pp.ru> > "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > > Bootverbose shows that second copy of devices appearse on ASUS CUSL2-C or > > TUSL2-C: > > > > atkbdc-: atkbdc0 already exists, using atkbdc1 instead > > sc-: sc0 already exists, using sc1 instead > > vga-: vga0 already exists, using vga1 instead > > > > vga-: line is especially dangerous since cause fake second VGA detection > > (as MDA) which cause panic with recent "duplicate make_dev panics" commit. > > > > It looks like conflict with /boot/device.hints here. > > If I remove this line > > hint.sc.0.at="isa" > > from device.hints, no fake second VGA appearse (the bug is gone), BUT... > > I have absolutely NO console output. If I put this line back, console > > oputput appearse and bug too. > > > > Removing atkbdc & vga hints from device.hints cause atkbdc- & vga- lines > > gone, which indicates conflict too. But sc hint can't be removed because > > it results with no console output. > > > > Please fix it somehow. > > In my case (ABIT's BP6 motherboard) the problem > disapear after switching on ACPI (there is the problem with > the fdc0 - "cannot reserve I/O port range (1 ports)" but now > I can some time live without floppies :-). In my case APCI or no ACPI gives absolutely no difference... -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 19:38:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 821) id A1AD337B403; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 19:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 19:38:25 -0700 From: John De Boskey To: Current List Subject: va_copy patch for stdarg.h Message-ID: <20011027193825.A23332@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We don't seem to have va_copy() in stdarg.h. Any reason not to commit the following? Index: sys/i386/include/stdarg.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/include/stdarg.h,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -r1.11 stdarg.h 57a58,59 > #define va_copy(d,s) ((va_list)(d) = (va_list)(s)) > which can also be found at: http://people.freebsd.org/~jwd/va_copy.patch -John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 19:40:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from prism.flugsvamp.com (cb58709-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.17.241.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE2C37B405 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 19:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by prism.flugsvamp.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f9S2cDl59140; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 21:38:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jlemon) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 21:38:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Lemon Message-Id: <200110280238.f9S2cDl59140@prism.flugsvamp.com> To: mjacob@feral.com, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hmm... (fwd) X-Newsgroups: local.mail.freebsd-current In-Reply-To: Organization: Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article you write: > >Actually- not alpha. Happened under i386, so it seems like it might be more >related to the general console changes.. > >Stopped at devsw+0x14: ldq t0,0xb8(a0) <0xb8> > >db> t >devsw() at devsw+0x14 >cn_devopen() at cn_devopen+0x40 >cnopen() at cnopen+0x60 >spec_open() at spec_open+0x1b4 >spec_vnoperate() at spec_vnoperate+0x2c >vn_open() at vn_open+0x410 >open() at open+0xf0 >syscall() at syscall+0x308 >XentSys() at XentSys+0x64 >--- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF, open) --- >--- user mode --- Are you sure you have the latest sources? This may be the close race that dillon pointed out earlier, jhb was seeing it too and I believe that he said it went away when he updated. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 21:38:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.port.ru (mx4.port.ru [194.67.57.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5510537B401; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 21:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [193.108.237.232] (helo=notebook.vega.com) by smtp4.port.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #1) id 15xhi2-0002de-00; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 07:38:07 +0300 To: clefevre@citeweb.net, peter@wemm.org Cc: jerry@thehutt.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Maxim Sobolev Reply-To: sobomax@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: adding athlon xp to bsd.cpu.mk X-Mailer: Pygmy (v0.5.13) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 06:37:45 EET In-Reply-To: <200110280030.f9S0UfW82593@gits.dyndns.org> Content-type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 02:30:40 +0200 (CEST), Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > Peter Wemm wrote: > > Jerry A! wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:00:44PM +0200, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > > > : Hi, > > > : > > > : how about the following patch (untested) regarding the newer athlon= xp > > > : processor type ? if needed, I could submit a PR. > > > = > > > Shouldn't Athlons and AthlonXPs be able to use i686 (pentiumpro) > > > instruction set optimizations? > > = > > No. They are different cpu cores that have different optimization > > strategies. > > = > > The patch doesn't include the AthlonMP which has the same core with > > both SSE and MMX. > = > Athlon XP (commercial name) =3D=3D Athlon MP (core name) AFAIK, not quite. The core name is Palomino and there are three processors based on it: Athlon XP, Athlon MP and Duron. > Athlon (alias k7) already has MMX. the objective of this patch > was to add SSE to the set of XP (alias MP) processors. What about new Durons based on the Palomino core? The problem is that as far as I know they have nothing in their name (like XP in Athlon's case) that distinguishes them from older Durons based on the Thunderbird core, while they do support SSE in addition to 3DNow and MMX. Perhaps it would be better to introduce new variable CPUCORE, so the user could use something like the following: CPUTYPE=3Dathlon CPUCORE=3Dthunderbird or CPUTYPE=3Dduron CPUCORE=3Dpalomino and so on. This looks quite ugly, but I do not have any better ideas. = -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 22:38:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B483337B403 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9S5ciH08557; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:38:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:38:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Jonathan Lemon Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hmm... (fwd) In-Reply-To: <200110280238.f9S2cDl59140@prism.flugsvamp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It was an update as of today. This situation completely scrambled one system, which will be fun to reinstall. Tra la. Next week. I give up. On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, Jonathan Lemon wrote: > In article you write: > > > >Actually- not alpha. Happened under i386, so it seems like it might be more > >related to the general console changes.. > > > >Stopped at devsw+0x14: ldq t0,0xb8(a0) <0xb8> > > > >db> t > >devsw() at devsw+0x14 > >cn_devopen() at cn_devopen+0x40 > >cnopen() at cnopen+0x60 > >spec_open() at spec_open+0x1b4 > >spec_vnoperate() at spec_vnoperate+0x2c > >vn_open() at vn_open+0x410 > >open() at open+0xf0 > >syscall() at syscall+0x308 > >XentSys() at XentSys+0x64 > >--- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF, open) --- > >--- user mode --- > > Are you sure you have the latest sources? This may be the close race > that dillon pointed out earlier, jhb was seeing it too and I believe > that he said it went away when he updated. > -- > Jonathan > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 27 23:49:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hindenburg.eboai.org (hindenburg.eboai.org [206.183.134.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CB437B405; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 23:49:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hindenburg.eboai.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 95A075E2DB; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 01:49:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 01:49:05 -0500 From: Chip Marshall To: sobomax@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding athlon xp to bsd.cpu.mk Message-ID: <20011028014905.A55998@setzer.chocobo.cx> Reply-To: chip@chocobo.cx Mail-Followup-To: Chip Marshall , sobomax@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200110280030.f9S0UfW82593@gits.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i X-URL: http://www.chocobo.cx/chip/ X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 up 21 days, 10 mins Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On October 28, 2001, Maxim Sobolev sent me the following: > On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 02:30:40 +0200 (CEST), Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > > Athlon XP (commercial name) == Athlon MP (core name) > > AFAIK, not quite. The core name is Palomino and there are three > processors based on it: Athlon XP, Athlon MP and Duron. From what I've read, the Athlon MP is supposed to be used for multiprocessing arrangements (hence the MP.) Athlon XP is it's single processor cousin. It appears these are in fact the same processor, with the MP's having slightly more testing involved to be SMP certified or some such. The Duron 1Ghz and above are also Palomino based, but lack some of the features of the XP and MP, IIRC. > What about new Durons based on the Palomino core? The problem is > that as far as I know they have nothing in their name (like XP in > Athlon's case) that distinguishes them from older Durons based on > the Thunderbird core, while they do support SSE in addition to > 3DNow and MMX. Perhaps it would be better to introduce new variable > CPUCORE, so the user could use something like the following: > > CPUTYPE=athlon > CPUCORE=thunderbird > > or > > CPUTYPE=duron > CPUCORE=palomino Couldn't a test be done on the Features information of the processor to determine the best optimizations? Or would that break cross-compiliation of optimized code? -- Chip Marshall http://www.chocobo.cx/chip/ GCM/CS d+(-) s+:++ a20>? C++ UB++++$ P+++$ L- E--- W++ N@ o K- w O M+ V-- PS+ PE Y+ PGP+ t+@ 5 X R@ tv+() b++>+++ DI++++ D(-) G++ e>++ h->++ r++ y- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message