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From: Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@inwind.it>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 13:11:57 GMT
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Subject: Handbook, Chapter 3.2 (Unix permissions), and chmod(1)  -- a suggestion
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Dear FreeBSD doc'ers,

The description of the Unix directory permissions in this section
might be a little confusing:

<blockquote>
The executable bit for a directory has a slightly different meaning
than that of files. When a directory is marked executable, it means it
can be searched into, for example, a directory listing can be done in
that directory.                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
</blockquote>                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


The following examples may illustrate my (little) point.


235 1:12pm ~ >=3D=3D=3D=3D> mkdir foo
236 1:12pm ~ >=3D=3D=3D=3D> cd foo
237 1:12pm ~/foo >=3D=3D=3D=3D> mkdir bar
238 1:12pm ~/foo >=3D=3D=3D=3D> chmod 100 bar  #make it searchable into =
by owner
239 1:13pm ~/foo >=3D=3D=3D=3D> ls bar
ls: bar: Permission denied             #can't list!


240 1:13pm ~/foo >=3D=3D=3D=3D> chmod 400 bar  #permission for listing
241 1:13pm ~/foo >=3D=3D=3D=3D> ls bar
242 1:13pm ~/foo >=3D=3D=3D=3D>                #no complaints


242 1:14pm ~/foo >=3D=3D=3D=3D> chmod 100 bar
243 1:14pm ~/foo >=3D=3D=3D=3D> cd bar         #can cd
244 1:14pm ~/foo/bar >=3D=3D=3D=3D>


An equivalent description to that quoted above is found in chmod(1).
Am I missing something ?


If not, you may wish to consider the following

<suggestion>
The executable bit for a directory has a slightly different meaning
than that of files. When a directory is marked executable, it means
you can cd, ie "Change Directories", to it. In particular, in order
for you to be able to cd to a subdirectory, the parent
(sub)directories must have the executable bit set.

N.B. a directory with ONLY the executable bit set allows you to
perform NO other operations: you can neither list the directory
contents nor create/modify/delete its file(s) or subdirectories.
</suggestion>

Best regards,
Salvo





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On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 03:53:20PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote:
> I've cc'd Norm Walsh on this -- Norm, perhaps you could suggest a more
> elegant approach to the problem? ]

Still cc'd.  I think I've got a more elegant approach to the problem.

> The alternative is to do what you've done, which is patch the
> stylesheets as they're installed.  That's not really the perfect
> approach either, as anyone that tries to formation documentation on
> FreeBSD that doesn't use our customisation layer will now find that they
> get a spurious ': ' inserted when they use <warning> or <caution>.
> 
> Anyway, that's the problem, and we have at least three solutions, none
> of which are (IMHO) optimal.  Any suggestions for a fourth way?

Fourth way:

  Alter all the gentext-* functions so that as well as checking the
  appropriate <lang>-<type>-<name>-sep list, they check an additional
  list, local-<lang>-<type>-<name>-sep list.  Check the local-* list
  first, and use it's contents in preference.

  Attached is the patch to dbl1en.dsl that does this for title
  labelling.  There are another 11 functions in that file that would
  need modifying in the same way.

  I've also attached a patch to our freebsd.dsl, showing how
  declarations in the customisation layer would need to change.

Norm, comments?  Could we get something like this in for 1.61?

N
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--- dbl1en.dsl.org	Sun Jan 21 16:32:05 2001
+++ dbl1en.dsl	Sun Jan 21 16:41:43 2001
@@ -273,6 +273,9 @@
 ;; abuse.
 ;;
 
+(define (local-en-label-title-sep)
+  (list))
+
 (define (en-label-title-sep)
   (list
    (list (normalize "abstract")		": ")
@@ -316,10 +319,13 @@
 (define (gentext-en-label-title-sep gind)
   (let* ((giname (if (string? gind) gind (gi gind)))
 	 (name   (normalize giname))
+	 (lsep	 (assoc name (local-en-label-title-sep)))
 	 (sep    (assoc name (en-label-title-sep))))
-    (if sep
-	(car (cdr sep))
-	"")))
+    (if lsep
+        (car (cdr lsep))
+        (if sep
+	    (car (cdr sep))
+	    ""))))
 
 (define (en-label-number-format-list)
   (list

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Index: freebsd.dsl
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl,v
retrieving revision 1.20
diff -u -r1.20 freebsd.dsl
--- freebsd.dsl	2001/01/08 12:40:52	1.20
+++ freebsd.dsl	2001/01/21 16:43:09
@@ -283,8 +267,11 @@
       (element (caution para) ($admonpara$))
       (element (caution simpara) ($admonpara$))
 
-      (define en-warning-label-title-sep ": ")
-      (define en-caution-label-title-sep ": ")
+      (define (local-en-label-title-sep)
+        (list
+          (list (normalize "warning")		": ")
+	  (list (normalize "caution")		": ")
+          ))
 
       <!-- Tell the stylesheet about our local customisations -->

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>Number:         24517
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] New FAQ entry about problems running X as non-root
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Jan 21 16:20:00 PST 2001
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Dima Dorfman
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
Private
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD spike.unixfreak.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Fri Jan 19 16:26:06 PST 2001 dima@spike.unixfreak.org:/usr/home/dima/w/f/src/sys/compile/SPIKE i386

>Description:

It seems that for some reason a lot of people have been having
problems running X because they start it as a non-root user.  Most
probably, this is due to the general public starting to upgrade to
XFree86 4, which doesn't install its servers setuid to root.

The attached patch adds an FAQ entry describing the need to either use
xdm or Xwrapper if one wishes to run X as a regular user; which one
should.

>How-To-Repeat:

Read -questions.

>Fix:

Apply the following patch to doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml.

Index: book.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.140
diff -u -r1.140 book.sgml
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+++ book.sgml	2001/01/21 22:50:52
@@ -7238,6 +7238,56 @@
       </qandaentry>
 
       <qandaentry>
+        <question id="xfree86-root">
+          <para>I used to run XFree86 as a regular user, but now when
+            I start it it says I must be root!</para>
+        </question>
+
+        <answer>
+          <para>All X servers need to be run as root in order to get direct
+            access to your video hardware.  Older versions of XFree86
+            (&lt;= 3.3.6) installed all bundled servers to be automatically
+            run as root (setuid to root).  This is obviously a security
+            hazard because X servers are large, complicated programs.
+            Newer versions of XFree86 do not install the servers setuid to
+            root for just this reason.</para>
+
+          <para>Obviously, running an X server as the root user is not
+            acceptable, nor a good idea security-wise.  There are two ways
+            to be able to use X as a regular user.  The first is to use
+            <ulink
+            url="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?manpath=xfree86&amp;query=xdm">
+            <command>xdm</command></ulink> or another display manager
+            (e.g., <command>kdm</command>); the second is to use the
+            <command>Xwrapper</command>.</para>
+
+          <para><command>xdm</command> is a daemon that handles graphical
+            logins.  It is usually started at boot time, and is responsible
+            for authenticating users and starting their sessions; it is
+            essentially the graphical counterpart of
+            <command>getty</command> and <command>login</command>.  For
+            more information on <command>xdm</command> see <ulink
+            url="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?manpath=xfree86&amp;query=xdm">
+            its manual page</ulink>, <ulink
+            url="http://www.xfree86.org/support.html">the XFree86
+            documentation</ulink>, and the <link linkend="xdm-boot">the FAQ
+            entry</link> on it.</para>
+
+          <para><command>Xwrapper</command> is the X server wrapper; it is
+            a small utility to enable one to manually run an X server while
+            maintaining reasonable safety.  It performs some sanity checks
+            on the command line arguments given, and if they pass, runs the
+            appropriate X server.  If you do not want to run a display
+            manger for whatever reason, this is for you.  If you have
+            installed the complete <ulink url="../ports/">ports
+            collection</ulink>, you can find the port in
+            <filename>/usr/ports/x11/wrapper</filename>.  If you have not,
+            follow the previous link for information on how to obtain just
+            this specific port.</para>
+        </answer>
+      </qandaentry>
+
+      <qandaentry>
         <question id="ps2-x">
           <para>My PS/2 mouse doesn't behave properly under X.</para>
         </question>

>Release-Note:
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On 18 Jan, Oguz Karaca wrote:
> Dear Sir!
> I'm Oguz ,i'm from Turkey.
> I have got two computers and two leased line modems(EXTERNAL).
> I linked that computers by modems from serial ports.
> First computer is linux (RedHat,like DOS ,hasn't got graphics),
> other computer installed DOS.
> But i didn't connect from second computer(DOS) to first computer
> (linux)
> I want to use a program in linux over modems.
> How can i do this and how can i connect?
> 
> 
> +------+                                           +-------+
> I DOS  I                                           I Linux I
> I______I                                           I_______I
> 00000000                                           000000000
> 00000000\ 1.MODEM                         2.MODEM /000000000
>         +---+                               +---+
>         I___I===============================I___I
>                 Telecoms Leased Line
> 
> I don't know,what I especially should do on the Linux computer,
> pleace  can you make me detailed explanation.
> 
> Thank you allready now very much
> karacasoft@hotmail.com
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On 18 Jan, Allan P. Magmanlac wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>     Would you be able to use cvsup to get just a particular file
> from the server and this file is just a normal file (ex. resume.txt) not 
> necessarily a source file that is part of the source tree.
> 
> this is the case:
>     I have one host running as the client(where cvsup is installed), and 
> another running as the server (where cvsupd is installed). If i would like 
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> 
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On 21 Jan, Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
> Dear FreeBSD doc'ers,
> 
> The description of the Unix directory permissions in this section
> might be a little confusing:
> 
>...[Trimmed]...
> 
> An equivalent description to that quoted above is found in chmod(1).
> Am I missing something ?
> 
> 
Yes, consider:

cd    tmp
mkdir foo
chmod 300 foo
cd    foo
mkdir barr

				Best Regards,
				Jessem.





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>Number:         24529
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       callout_init(9) man page is missing the second argument to callout_init()
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
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>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon Jan 22 07:40:01 PST 2001
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     harti brandt
>Release:        -current
>Organization:
GMD Fokus
>Environment:
FreeBSD beagle.fokus.gmd.de 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Mon Jan 22 13:12:32 CET 2001     hbb@beagle.fokus.gmd.de:/opt/obj/usr/src/sys/BEAGLE  i386

>Description:
callout_init() requires two arguments: a callout structure and
the mpsafe flag. The flag is missing in the documented prototype in
callout_init(9) as well as the description of what this flag does.
>How-To-Repeat:
man callout_init

grep callout_init /usr/include/*.h
>Fix:


>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:


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Hi!

There are 26 -CURRENT manpages (in mdoc(7) format) in the base system
that have a trailing dot (`.') after the .Nd macro.  In your opinion,
should I remove these (dots)?

gnu/lib/libdialog/dialog.3:.Nd provide a simple ncurses-based GUI interface.
lib/libc/gen/arc4random.3:.Nd arc4 random number generator.
lib/libc/sys/bind.2:.Nd assign a local protocol address to a socket.
lib/libc/sys/jail.2:.Nd Imprison current process and future decendants.
lib/libcalendar/calendar.3:.Nd Calendar arithmetic for the Christian era.
lib/libutil/login_auth.3:.Nd authentication style support library for login class capabilities database.
lib/libutil/login_cap.3:.Nd functions for accessing the login class capabilities database.
lib/libutil/login_class.3:.Nd functions for using the login class capabilities database.
sbin/kget/kget.8:.Nd print kernel change information.
share/man/man4/intpm.4:.Nd Intel PIIX4 Power management controller driver.
share/man/man4/man4.i386/alpm.4:.Nd Acer Aladdin 15x3 Power Management controller driver.
share/man/man4/man4.i386/sr.4:.Nd synchronous RISCom/N2 / WANic 400/405 device driver.
share/man/man4/smp.4:.Nd description of the FreeBSD Symmetric MultiProcessor kernel.
share/man/man5/periodic.conf.5:.Nd periodic job configuration information.
share/man/man5/rc.conf.5:.Nd system configuration information.
share/man/man7/build.7:.Nd information on how to build the system.
share/man/man9/DELAY.9:.Nd Busy loop for an interval.
share/man/man9/at_exit.9:.Nd ask that a function be run at exit.
share/man/man9/at_fork.9:.Nd ask that a function be run at fork.
share/man/man9/bios.9:.Nd Interact with PC BIOS.
share/man/man9/namei.9:.Nd convert pathname to a pointer to a locked vnode.
share/man/man9/random.9:.Nd supply pseudo-random numbers.
share/man/man9/sysctl_ctx_init.9:.Nd sysctl context for managing dynamically created sysctl oids.
usr.bin/xlint/xlint/lint.1:.Nd a C program verifier.
usr.sbin/setkey/setkey.8:.Nd manually manipulate the IPsec SA/SP database.
usr.sbin/vidcontrol/vidcontrol.1:.Nd a utility for manipulating the syscons console driver.


Cheers,
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From owner-freebsd-doc  Mon Jan 22 11: 5:37 2001
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Ruslan Ermilov wrote:

> There are 26 -CURRENT manpages (in mdoc(7) format) in the base system
> that have a trailing dot (`.') after the .Nd macro.  In your opinion,
> should I remove these (dots)?
> 
> gnu/lib/libdialog/dialog.3:.Nd provide a simple ncurses-based GUI interface.

No objections from me, and it would certainmly make things more consistent.
We should also be consistent about not starting with a capital letter...

> lib/libc/sys/jail.2:.Nd Imprison current process and future decendants.
> lib/libcalendar/calendar.3:.Nd Calendar arithmetic for the Christian era.
> share/man/man9/DELAY.9:.Nd Busy loop for an interval.
> share/man/man9/bios.9:.Nd Interact with PC BIOS.

They should be lowercase, IMO.

...

I'm tempted also to change things like ".Nm Foo" to just ".Nm" at the
start of sentences, when the name really is "foo".  IMO even at the
start of a sentence we shouldn't capitalize things wrong.  There's a lot
more of these to change though, so there may be stronger objections.  I
don't feel that strongly about it, it just seems "wrong" to capitalize
things wrong.

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From owner-freebsd-doc  Mon Jan 22 12:43:31 2001
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I want to upgrade a clients FreeBSD machine from 3.x stable to a 4.2
stable remotely.

1. Can I do this? (I see that the upgrading from source tutorial is
gone).

2. Can I do just the Kernel, or how much of the source tree should I get
or update.

2. Can some one point me to comprehensive docs to do this?

I've installed and secured FreeBSD a few times, customized and combined
some ports, rebuilt the kernel, patched and rebuilt core binaries for
security, but never upgraded kernel (or run cvsup --my connection here
is not very fast).

Note: I'm not on any mailing lists except the security announce ones, so
you may have to reply to me directly to reach me.

I really need a competent mentor some where to chat with occasionally
about FreeBSD... I've been working with computers since my mom taught me
to program fortran at age 8 in 1965 --mom was an innovative math teacher
in the public schools.... The university loaned her a key punch.... I've
used UNIX machines for over 10 years, and I've been pressed into service
as a unix system administrator (first on Solaris then Linux now on
FreeBSD) the last two+ years. I've been working alone here installing,
securing, and putting on line, internet webservers for a couple of small
local companies, and it would be nice to have some competent people to
talk to occasionally about this kind of work; but hey, point me to some
documentation. I've read and experimented my way here. I can read on.

(I'm a longtime Deadhead with a BS in biology that is heavy on physics,
chemistry and math but without much emphasis on biology.)

Greg

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----- Forwarded message from Arnold Mingin <Arnold.Mingin@UnderNet.LV> -----

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Hello,

We're writing you from a small country named Latvia. We want to register at
our local NIC the domain name "freebsd.lv", so we can do our own local page
and mirror freebsd.org for local FreeBSD community. But NIC says that we
can't do it without a permission from trademark holder -- freebsd.org. Can
it be settled ?


Best regards,

arni.


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No big deal, but you must have missed:
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cutting-edge.html
You'll want to read the whole chapter and follow it carefully.  FreeBSD 
is an integrated system and you have to upgrade the whole OS along with 
the kernel.
	Also see /usr/src/UPDATING  that file has the final say.   Most people 
seem to say it is best to upgrade to the newest 3.x stable and from 
there to 4.2-release or 4.2-stable.  That way you get the newest 3.x 
toolchain and will have the best chance of the upgrade working.
	Also questions like this belong on freebsd-stable or freebsd-questions.
If you're running -stable, it is recommended to be on the -stable 
mailing list.
	If your bandwidth is too low, you may have to buy a 4.2 cd or 
reinstall by another method.  The handbook has several methods of doing 
that that can be gotten to from the main freebsd page.
	The -questions mailing list can reallt provide a lot of support to 
someone that is willing to do some of their own work.

						Tim
	
On Monday January 22, 2001 16:01, Greg Nelsen wrote:
> I want to upgrade a clients FreeBSD machine from 3.x stable to a 4.2
> stable remotely.
>
> 1. Can I do this? (I see that the upgrading from source tutorial is
> gone).
>
> 2. Can I do just the Kernel, or how much of the source tree should I
> get or update.
>
> 2. Can some one point me to comprehensive docs to do this?
>
> I've installed and secured FreeBSD a few times, customized and
> combined some ports, rebuilt the kernel, patched and rebuilt core
> binaries for security, but never upgraded kernel (or run cvsup --my
> connection here is not very fast).
>
> Note: I'm not on any mailing lists except the security announce ones,
> so you may have to reply to me directly to reach me.
>
> I really need a competent mentor some where to chat with occasionally
> about FreeBSD... I've been working with computers since my mom taught
> me to program fortran at age 8 in 1965 --mom was an innovative math
> teacher in the public schools.... The university loaned her a key
> punch.... I've used UNIX machines for over 10 years, and I've been
> pressed into service as a unix system administrator (first on Solaris
> then Linux now on FreeBSD) the last two+ years. I've been working
> alone here installing, securing, and putting on line, internet
> webservers for a couple of small local companies, and it would be
> nice to have some competent people to talk to occasionally about this
> kind of work; but hey, point me to some documentation. I've read and
> experimented my way here. I can read on.
>
> (I'm a longtime Deadhead with a BS in biology that is heavy on
> physics, chemistry and math but without much emphasis on biology.)
>
> Greg
>
> excalibr@avalon.net
> greg@greggy.com
>
>
>
>
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:51:16 +0200, Arnold Mingin <Arnold.Mingin@UnderNet.LV> wrote:
> We're writing you from a small country named Latvia. We want to
> register at our local NIC the domain name "freebsd.lv", so we can do
> our own local page and mirror freebsd.org for local FreeBSD
> community. But NIC says that we can't do it without a permission
> from trademark holder -- freebsd.org. Can it be settled ?

This message was forwarded to the FreeBSD documentation project,
though I don't know why.  The FreeBSD Core team needs to decide about
this.  This is your official notice that -core has received your
request, and we'll try to get you an answer within a week.

Greg
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>Number:         24567
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       typo in articles/vm-design/article.sgml
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon Jan 22 20:20:01 PST 2001
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Robert Drehmel
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
>Environment:

	FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386

>Description:

	Two words are there twice: one pair of ``when you''
	is unnecessary.  :-)

>How-To-Repeat:

	Look at doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/vm-design/article.sgml.

>Fix:

Index: article.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/vm-design/article.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -r1.2 article.sgml
261c261
<       can cost scanning time and memory when you when you take a fault.  Deep
---
>       can cost scanning time and memory when you take a fault.  Deep


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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 06:53:04PM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote:
> Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> 
> > There are 26 -CURRENT manpages (in mdoc(7) format) in the base system
> > that have a trailing dot (`.') after the .Nd macro.  In your opinion,
> > should I remove these (dots)?
> > 
> > gnu/lib/libdialog/dialog.3:.Nd provide a simple ncurses-based GUI interface.
> 
> No objections from me, and it would certainmly make things more consistent.
> We should also be consistent about not starting with a capital letter...
> 
I did not want to mix the things in one message, but I also think this should
be done.  Anyone else's opinions?

> > lib/libc/sys/jail.2:.Nd Imprison current process and future decendants.
> > lib/libcalendar/calendar.3:.Nd Calendar arithmetic for the Christian era.
> > share/man/man9/DELAY.9:.Nd Busy loop for an interval.
> > share/man/man9/bios.9:.Nd Interact with PC BIOS.
> 
> They should be lowercase, IMO.
> 
Seconded.  But what do others think?

> I'm tempted also to change things like ".Nm Foo" to just ".Nm" at the
> start of sentences, when the name really is "foo".  IMO even at the
> start of a sentence we shouldn't capitalize things wrong.  There's a lot
> more of these to change though, so there may be stronger objections.  I
> don't feel that strongly about it, it just seems "wrong" to capitalize
> things wrong.
> 
I would say "yes".  Can we please come up once and for all to some rule
about this?

So, readers, please answer this short questionnaire.

1.  Should the short manual page description be in lower case (except
    registered (trade) names like TCP?  (YES, NO)

2.  Should we consistently change all occurrences of ``.Nm Foo'' to
    ``.Nm foo'' where the command name is actually ``foo''?  (YES, NO)

I will collect answers till and publish the results on the next Monday.


Thanks,
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hi,

On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 10:15:30AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:

> > > There are 26 -CURRENT manpages (in mdoc(7) format) in the base system
> > > that have a trailing dot (`.') after the .Nd macro.  In your opinion,
> > > should I remove these (dots)?
> > > 
> > > gnu/lib/libdialog/dialog.3:.Nd provide a simple ncurses-based GUI interface.
> > 
> > No objections from me, and it would certainmly make things more consistent.
> > We should also be consistent about not starting with a capital letter...
> > 
> I did not want to mix the things in one message, but I also think this should
> be done.  Anyone else's opinions?

Everything just should be changed in one way. If we have most manpages
lowercased, others should be also lowercased, IMHO. Same for dots at the
end of sentences.

> > I'm tempted also to change things like ".Nm Foo" to just ".Nm" at the
> > start of sentences, when the name really is "foo".  IMO even at the
> > start of a sentence we shouldn't capitalize things wrong.  There's a lot
> > more of these to change though, so there may be stronger objections.  I
> > don't feel that strongly about it, it just seems "wrong" to capitalize
> > things wrong.
> > 
> I would say "yes".  Can we please come up once and for all to some rule
> about this?
> 
> So, readers, please answer this short questionnaire.
> 
> 1.  Should the short manual page description be in lower case (except
>     registered (trade) names like TCP?  (YES, NO)

YES.

> 2.  Should we consistently change all occurrences of ``.Nm Foo'' to
>     ``.Nm foo'' where the command name is actually ``foo''?  (YES, NO)

Yes, of course, but it just should be changed to construction like

The command/utility/etc
.Nm
...

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Alexey Zelkin wrote:

>> 2.  Should we consistently change all occurrences of ``.Nm Foo'' to
>>     ``.Nm foo'' where the command name is actually ``foo''?  (YES, NO)
> 
> Yes, of course, but it just should be changed to construction like
> 
> The command/utility/etc
> .Nm

I disagree with this, putting "the ... command" around something is just
unnecessary IMO.  But perhaps grammatical correctness means more to some
people than it does to me. :-)

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> > Adding new disk types is just too damn painful. 8(
> 
> How about a mini-howto?  Both you and I messed it up several times.
> It would help to reduce the chance if there was a step-by-step
> out there to remind the disk driver gurus. :)

Please arrange to have this put wherever it'll do the most good...

Adding Your new Disk Driver, Mini-Howto                       r1.0
------------------------------------------------------------------
(c) 2001 Michael Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>

Adding a disk driver to FreeBSD is relatively easy, but there are a 
number of non-obvious steps that must be followed for it to all work 
right.  We assume here that you have already successfully developed and 
tested your driver, and that you're ready to commit it to the tree.  If
you're not committing it, you can still generate diffs for the various 
files to make the actual commit process move more quickly.

1) Commit the driver.  This part is obvious.

2) Commit the module Makefile.  All drivers should build as modules.
   You probably built as a module while you were testing, so don't forget 
   this part.  Don't forget to add your module to the parent Makefile as 
   well.

3) Commit the manpage.  All drivers should have manpages.  The manpage 
   should try to list all the hardware your driver supports, as well as 
   all the diagnostic messages it might print and their causes.  Don't 
   forget to add the manpage to the list in the Makefile.  Don't put your 
   manpage in an arch-specific directory unless the driver or device is 
   *absolutely* architecture-specific.

4) Update the list in sysinstall/devices.c.  For a disk device, the entry 
   should look like:

    {DEVICE_TYPE_DISK, "foo%d", "FOO disk", <major>, 65538, 8, 4},

   Where <major> is the cdev major number of your driver.

5) Update libdisk/create_chunk.c, by adding a line to parse the disk
   name in MakeDev():

    else if (!strncmp(p, "foo", 4))
        cmaj = <major>, p += strlen("foo");

6) Update libdisk/disk.c, by adding an entry for your disk driver's name
   in the device_list[] array.

7) Update MAKEDEV to create disk devices for your driver, and (optionally)
   a control device.  You should update:

    - The 'Disks:' comment at the head of the file.
    - The 'Individual slices.' conditional.
    - The (unmarked) 'whole disk' conditional.

   Use one of the other disk device entries as an example here.  The 
   'name' and 'chr' variables are set to the name and character major 
   number of the disk respectively.  The subconditionals exist to deal 
   with the different name lengths (to parse the unit number), and you 
   should add your driver to the appropriate case.

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Hi,

 % man pthread_cond_timedwait
PTHREAD_COND_TIMEDWAIT(FreeBSD Library Functions ManuPTHREAD_COND_TIMEDWAIT(3)

NAME
     pthread_cond_timedwait - wait on a condition variable for a specific
     amount of time

Is there any way to fix that (the title page) ?  Do we want to?


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I've explicitly pulled Greg Lehey in to this.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 04:28:19PM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote:
> Alexey Zelkin wrote:
> 
> >> 2.  Should we consistently change all occurrences of ``.Nm Foo'' to
> >>     ``.Nm foo'' where the command name is actually ``foo''?  (YES, NO)
> > 
> > Yes, of course, but it just should be changed to construction like
> > 
> > The command/utility/etc
> > .Nm
> 
> I disagree with this, putting "the ... command" around something is just
> unnecessary IMO.  But perhaps grammatical correctness means more to some
> people than it does to me. :-)

FWIW, that's my opinion as well.  However, out of the depths of my
somewhat rusty memory I think I recall Greg Lehey having some compelling
reasons for doing the opposite (i.e., what Alexey is suggesting).  I
can't for the life of me remember what they were though, hence the cc:,
in the hope that Greg can remind us.

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Committed, thanks!

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Synopsis: cipher(3) man pages needs to state that -lcipher is needed.

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Committed to -current, I'll MFC it soon.

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On Tuesday, 23 January 2001 at 22:42:41 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote:
> I've explicitly pulled Greg Lehey in to this.
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 04:28:19PM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote:
>> Alexey Zelkin wrote:
>>
>>>> 2.  Should we consistently change all occurrences of ``.Nm Foo'' to
>>>>     ``.Nm foo'' where the command name is actually ``foo''?  (YES, NO)
>>>
>>> Yes, of course, but it just should be changed to construction like
>>>
>>> The command/utility/etc
>>> .Nm
>>
>> I disagree with this, putting "the ... command" around something is just
>> unnecessary IMO.  But perhaps grammatical correctness means more to some
>> people than it does to me. :-)

This is punctuation, not grammar.

> FWIW, that's my opinion as well.  However, out of the depths of my
> somewhat rusty memory I think I recall Greg Lehey having some compelling
> reasons for doing the opposite (i.e., what Alexey is suggesting).  I
> can't for the life of me remember what they were though, hence the cc:,
> in the hope that Greg can remind us.

Hmm.  I can't recall a compelling reason.  Obviously a sentence
starting with a lower-case letter looks funny, so if we can avoid it,
we should.  I've just checked vinum(8), and I find a number of
sequences like this:

  Exit the
  .Nm
  program when running in interactive mode.

  Terminate access to the objects, or stop
  .Nm
  if no parameters are specified.

On the other hand, I also have:

  .Sh DESCRIPTION
  .Nm
  is a utility program to communicate with the \fBVinum\fP\| logical volume
  manager.

This rather confirms my recollection that I'd like to avoid putting
lower-case letters at the beginning of a sentence, but that I'd do it
rather than bloat the style.  I think that's what you're saying as
well. 

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cd 4.1-RELEASE (as an example)
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>Number:         24622
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Man page of "ugen" missing.
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Jan 24 16:20:01 PST 2001
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Ernst de Haan
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386
>Organization:
Jollem Information Technology
>Environment:

	FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE

>Description:

	The usb(4) man page states that more information about ugen can be
	found in man page ugen(4) but there is none:

SEE ALSO
     The USB specifications can be found at
     http://www.usb.org/developers/docs.htm.
     pci(4), ohci(4), ugen(4), uhci(4), uhid(4), ukbd(4), ulpt(4), ums(4),
     usbd(8), usbdevs(8)

>How-To-Repeat:

	Execute "man usb".

>Fix:

	Supply the man page ugen(4).

>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:


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I would like some help in determining the parsing rules for device names.
For instance, there is obviously a naming pattern at work for

   ad0     ad0f    ad0s4   ad1e    ad1s3   ad2d    ad2s2   ad3c    ad3s1
   ad0a    ad0g    ad1     ad1f    ad1s4   ad2e    ad2s3   ad3d    ad3s2
   ad0b    ad0h    ad1a    ad1g    ad2     ad2f    ad2s4   ad3e    ad3s3
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   rad0b   rad0h   rad1a   rad1g   rad2    rad2f   rad2s4  rad3e   rad3s3
   rad0c   rad0s1  rad1b   rad1h   rad2a   rad2g   rad3    rad3f   rad3s4
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   rad0e   rad0s3  rad1d   rad1s2  rad2c   rad2s1  rad3b   rad3h

but what is it?  Ultimately, I would like to mechanize the result, so
that I could take a name such as /dev/rad1c and say useful things about
it, as:

    /dev/ad1c corresponds to partition "a" of unit "1" of the raw "ad"
    (ATA disk) device.  See ata(4) for more information.

If anyone out there is very familiar with the /dev entries and would
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That will teach me to send out half-edited messages (:-).  Try:

    /dev/rad1c corresponds to partition "c" of unit "1" of the raw "ad"
    (ATA disk) device.  See ata(4) for more information.

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Hola, reciban saludes de mi parte les escribo porque acabo de montarle
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Keenan wrote:

> I have read your handbook and could make very little sense of how to
> download FreeBSD. When I went to the ftp site i could understand nothing
> and download nothing. Please help. 

There is another method.

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html

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Quoth Michael Zury never more:
>I would like to see if we could help construct a
>shopping portal for you to generate some additional
>revenue from your site.  This month we are focused
>on Valentine's Day.

Can Chuckie be my Valentine?


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Hola, este es una lista en ingles, pero hablo un poquito espanol.
Creo que no hay mucha de manual en espanol.  Hay un poco a  
http://www.freebsd.org/es/      Mucho de los manuales estan a:
http://www.freebsd.org/    El Handbook es un gran libre de FreeBSD, 
pero es en ingles.  Hay listas de coreo que en espanol.  Ud. trata 
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At 24 Jan 2001 02:51:06 GMT,
Allan P. Magmanlac <allan.magmanlac@home.com> wrote:
>            Can CVsup server be configured as to allow only connections
> from specified hosts. (like 10 clients
> only). and can it be configured as to require users first to
> authenticate before getting any updates.

Yes and yes.  Please refer cvsupd(8) manual page.


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Hello,

I was wondering, is there a pdf or printable version of the FreeBSD
handbook available anywhere?  I'm trying to save a few trees here (and some
time).  If i print from the website so much space gets wasted on logos and
all of that other spacial HTML stuff..  Can you help me out please?

Thanks a lot,
Randy



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Synopsis: connect(2) can yield EWOULDBLOCK/EAGAIN

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I'll shepherd this one, I've recently commited a fix to the code.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=24125


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[ On Thursday, January 25, Randy.Whiting@ey-as.com wrote: ]
> Hello,
> 
> I was wondering, is there a pdf or printable version of the FreeBSD
> handbook available anywhere?  I'm trying to save a few trees here (and some
> time).  If i print from the website so much space gets wasted on logos and
> all of that other spacial HTML stuff..  Can you help me out please?
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> Randy
> 
> 
> 
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  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/

explore to your heart's content (everything is compressed but rtf, text, ps,
and PDF exist ... even pdb files to download to your Palm :)

-Jr

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Hi, did anybody notice the online handbook is waxed again?  It goes from
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					Tim


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Thus spake Tim McMillen (timcm@umich.edu):

> Hi, did anybody notice the online handbook is waxed again?  It goes from
> 15.6 to B.1.  Just a heads up,

Try to press SHIFT-RELOAD

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/ Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> was heard to say:
| Then Norm changed how he did things.  Instead of using a bunch of
| variables, one per (language x element) pair, he created this function
| called gentext-label-title-sep (and others in the same style).  I
| suspect this probably makes the DSSSL processing faster, or something.

Well, it certainly reduced the number of variables I had to keep track
of :-)

| The problem with this, from our point of view, is that it's no longer
| possible to override a single entry in our customisation.  Instead, to
| fix <warning> and <caution>, I have to duplicate all of the code from 
| dbl1en.dsl that defines the en-label-title-sep hash[1] *or* rewrite the
| gentext-en-label-title-sep function so that it special cases <warning>
| and <caution> before it looks in the en-label-title-sep hash.
| 
| Neither of which are particularly clean, so I've sort of ignored the
| problem, in the hope that I dream up a better way.

Yeah, I see the problem. Ugh. I think in the short term, you should
redefine the hash.

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

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Thus spake Tim McMillen (timcm@umich.edu):

> Did you check it?

Hmm, yes.  I see the online error, but when I build a local copy,
everything is fine.

Maybe a temporary error.

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See http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/current.html.

-pete.

++ 25/01/01 18:23 -0600 - Erich Zigler:
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>
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>what needs to be done, or helped with.
>
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>
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>
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Hi, see:
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html
Choose an installation method, follow the directions and you will have 
FreeBSD.  Read a lot at the website www.freebsd.org and follow a lot of 
the links, and if you don't understand something you read, then ask 
questions at the mailing list   freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Good luck,

					Tim

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>     I am student at chularlongkorn University. I'd like to learn
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>             apirada



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A month or so back I sent a message describing O'Reilly's gmat
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DocBook into troff and then formats it.  Until yesterday, it sort of
limped, but it wasn't really useful enough to do anything with.  Now
I have found the bug and fixed it, and I think it's reasonable to say
that it produces good quality output.  It doesn't understand the
FreeBSD extensions to DocBook, of course, but it's possible that it
could be done.

Documentation is sparse; there's no man page, but one of the patches
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I am configuring a Dell PowerEdge J series with dual 800MHz processors, 2
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in http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/dialup-firewall/kernel.html, it is
explained what options to add to your kernel before recompiling to enable
things like firewall support, and IP stack restrictions like
TCP_RESTRICT_RST.  in the next page,
http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/dialup-firewall/rcconf.html, you mention
that you have to modify /etc/rc.conf to enable those options, but it is
not mentioned that if you actually used the additional options like
TCP_RESTRICT_RST in your kernel you still have to also turn them on in
/etc/rc.conf.

it would probably be nice to mention that on that second page -- one of my
friends pointed out i needed to do a little additional work in
/etc/rc.conf to enable the new SYN options in my kernel, instead of me
finding out from this tutorial.

just a suggestion, thanks for your time. ;)


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So, I now submitted a patch as you had asked, but didn't get any response
at at all (and the page has not been updated either).

:-(
Gerald

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>> Can you submit a patch please?
>
> Well, it's really just one line, but here we go. The patch below is for
> <http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html>.
>
> I intentionally use lower-case HTML tags, as this is what XHTML 1.0 (and
> thus any forthcoming standard) demands and also added a missing full-stop
> in the Java paragraph.
>
> Gerald
>
> --- newsflash.html.1	Tue Nov 14 07:14:14 2000
> +++ newsflash.html	Thu Nov 23 02:37:24 2000
> @@ -26,13 +26,16 @@
>        subscribe to the <A HREF="../handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL">freebsd-announce
>        mailing list</A>.</P>
>
> +    <p>For FreeBSD Security Advisories, please refer to the our <a
> +      href="/security/#adv">Security Information</a> page.</p>
> +
>      <P>The <A HREF="http://www.daemonnews.org/newsletter/">FreeBSD Real-Quick (TM)
>        Newsletter (RQN)</A> is a monthly (sometimes bi-weekly) newsletter
>        containing recent developments in the FreeBSD arena.  Subscribe to
>        <A HREF="../handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL">freebsd-announce</A>
>        to receive this newsletter via e-mail.</P>
>
> -    <P>For latest news of FreeBSD Java Project please visit <A HREF="../java/newsflash.html">FreeBSD/Java NewsFlash</A> page</P>
> +    <P>For latest news of FreeBSD Java Project please visit <A HREF="../java/newsflash.html">FreeBSD/Java NewsFlash</A> page.</P>
>
>      <P>For a detailed description of past, present, and future releases,
>        see the <STRONG><A HREF="../releases/index.html">Release
>
>

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On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 06:52:02PM +0100, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> So, I now submitted a patch as you had asked, but didn't get any response
> at at all (and the page has not been updated either).

What's the PR number?

Kris

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On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> What's the PR number?

I didn't submit a PR but just added the web patch you had asked for to
my response. The mail I sent today had a quote of that original response
including the patch.

Please find an updated patch below.

Gerald

--- newsflash.html.old	Thu Jan 25 07:25:13 2001
+++ newsflash.html	Fri Jan 26 20:26:11 2001
@@ -33,6 +33,9 @@
       see the <STRONG><A HREF="../releases/index.html">Release
       Information</A></STRONG> page.</P>

+    <p>For FreeBSD Security Advisories, please refer to the our <a
+       href="/security/#adv">Security Information</a> page.</p>
+
     <H2>January 2001</H2>

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On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:30:11PM +0100, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
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> +++ newsflash.html	Fri Jan 26 20:26:11 2001
> @@ -33,6 +33,9 @@
>        see the <STRONG><A HREF="../releases/index.html">Release
>        Information</A></STRONG> page.</P>
> 
> +    <p>For FreeBSD Security Advisories, please refer to the our <a

We don't need the "the", do we?  "Please refer to our..." works fine. 

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>Number:         24662
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       too many questions about source management bloat freebsd lists
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
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>Description:
Stale files may cause users a number of problems. The role and 
importance of cvsup's checkouts file(s) seems to be widely ignored, as 
well the existence of such utilities as cvsupchk. 


>How-To-Repeat:

	
Read -questions for a while... 

>Fix:

	
Moooo! I have written far too many times to freebsd lists on the subject :-)

A reference to J.Polstra's cvsup FAQ should be made and/or emphasized in
the existing documentation (handbook and/or cvsup(1) and/or FreeBSD FAQ);
in this connection, explicit specific examples might be helpful.

Also, cvsupchk should be mentioned as a useful tool for correct source 
management. 



I wrote a few public letters, as well as several private ones covering 
the following topics:

--  correctly updating one's sources via cvsup for the first time;
--  switching one's sources from tag A to tag B;
--  correctly updating one's ports tree for the first time. 

If anybody is interested in this material, I will be glad to submit it 
for revision -- as plain text, for the time being.

>Release-Note:
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From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>
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The following reply was made to PR docs/24662; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>
To: bartequi@inwind.it
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/24662: correct management of sources with cvsup(1)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 23:37:26 +0000

 On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:52:10PM +0100, bartequi@inwind.it wrote:
 > If anybody is interested in this material, I will be glad to submit it 
 > for revision -- as plain text, for the time being.
 
 Please do.
 
 N
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From owner-freebsd-doc  Fri Jan 26 16:20:15 2001
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> Russel Talisin wrote:
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> Could you please provide a link to download the entire porters
> handbook for FreeBSD ?

Start at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/ and work your way down
to books/ and you will have many choices.

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Hello there.
The subject have following text:

     Note that if you use spaces as separators, your syslog.conf might
be in­
     compatible with other Unices or Unix-like systems.  This
functionality

Is the word "Unices" a typo? Is "Unixes" the right word in this excerpt?
The [X] and [C] keys are beside each other in standard keyboard, so it's
maybe the reason for this typo, isn't it? :-))



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i am wanting to mirror the BSD archive and have it on my ftp site for people to download files from will this be ok?


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>Number:         24690
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       duplication in style.9
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Jan 28 00:00:01 PST 2001
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Alex Kapranoff
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD kapran.bitmcnit.bryansk.su 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Jan 20 22:56:54 MSK 2001 root@kapran.bitmcnit.bryansk.su:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KAPRAN i386

>Description:
	style.9 manpage recomends against declaring functions inside
	other functions two times.  Look:

STYLE(9)	       FreeBSD Kernel Developer's Manual	      STYLE(9)

NAME
     style - Kernel source file style guide
[skip]
     When declaring variables in functions declare them sorted by size, then
     in alphabetical order; multiple ones per line are okay.  Declaring func-
     tions inside functions is not recommended, since their linkage scope is
     always global.  If a line overflows reuse the type keyword.

     Be careful to not obfuscate the code by initializing variables in the
     declarations.  Use this feature only thoughtfully.  DO NOT use function
     calls in initializers!

	     struct foo one, *two;
	     double three;
	     int *four, five;
	     char *six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve;

	     four = myfunction();

     Do not declare functions inside other functions; ANSI C says that such
     declarations have file scope regardless of the nesting of the declara-
     tion.  Hiding file declarations in what appears to be a local scope is
     undesirable and will elicit complaints from a good compiler.

>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:

*** /usr/src/share/man/man9/style.9	Fri Dec 29 19:07:03 2000
--- style.9	Sun Jan 28 10:37:12 2001
***************
*** 382,390 ****
  .Pp
  When declaring variables in functions declare them sorted by size,
  then in alphabetical order; multiple ones per line are okay.
! Declaring functions inside functions is not recommended, since their
! linkage scope is always global.  If a line overflows reuse the type
! keyword.
  .Pp
  Be careful to not obfuscate the code by initializing variables in
  the declarations.  Use this feature only thoughtfully.
--- 382,388 ----
  .Pp
  When declaring variables in functions declare them sorted by size,
  then in alphabetical order; multiple ones per line are okay.
! If a line overflows reuse the type keyword.
  .Pp
  Be careful to not obfuscate the code by initializing variables in
  the declarations.  Use this feature only thoughtfully.

>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:


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