From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 4 2:37:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB7937B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:37:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@big.endian.de) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.com by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14ZVss-0006Pr-06; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:37:02 +0100 Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (520050424122-0001@[62.225.192.131]) by fmrl05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14ZVsh-1tabgGC; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:36:51 +0100 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6D3AB44 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:37:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2C4B314A66; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:36:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:36:53 +0100 From: Alexander Langer To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: two new manpages for review: module.9, DECLARE_MODULE.9 Message-ID: <20010304113653.C593@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. X-Sender: 520050424122-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline [re-sending this to -doc] Hi! I have written two new manpages and I'd like to hear some comments about them (mdoc stuff, technical errors and enhancements, suggestions[1]). Thanks! Alex [1] ecspecially module.9, which is similar to driver.9, but somehow - uhm - short. I don't know what it could contain, but I think it's a good start... --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="module.9" .\" -*- nroff -*- .\" .\" Copyright (c) 2000 Alexander Langer .\" .\" All rights reserved. .\" .\" This program is free software. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions .\" are met: .\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. .\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the .\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. .\" .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPERS ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES .\" OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. .\" IN NO EVENT SHALL THE DEVELOPERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, .\" INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT .\" NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, .\" DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY .\" THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT .\" (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF .\" THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. .\" .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" .Dd March 01, 2001 .Dt MODULE 9 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm driver .Nd structure describing a kernel module .Sh SYNOPSIS .Bd -literal #include #include modeventhand_t foo_handler; static moduledata_t mod_data= { "foo", foo_handler, 0 }; DECLARE_MODULE(foo, mod_data, SI_SUB_EXEC, SI_ORDER_ANY); typedef int (*modeventhand_t)(module_t mod, int /*modeventtype_t*/ what, void *arg); .Ed .Sh DESCRIPTION Each module in the kernel is described by a .Dv module_t structure. The structure contains the name of the device, a unique id number, a pointer to an event handler function and to an argument, which is given to the event handler, as well as some kernel internal data. .Pp The .Dv DECLARE_MODULE macro (see .Xr DECLARE_MODULE 9 ) registers the module with the system. When the module is loaded, the event handler function is called with the .Fa what argument set to .Dv MOD_LOAD . On unload, .Fa what is set to .Dv MOD_UNLOAD . When the system is shutting down, .Fa what contains the value of .Dv MOD_SHUTDOWN .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr DECLARE_MODULE 9 , .Xr CDEV_MODULE 9 , .Xr DRIVER_MODULE 9 , .Xr SYSCALL_MODULE 9 , .Xr MODULE_VERSION 9 , .Xr MODULE_DEPEND 9 , .Xr /usr/share/examples/kld .Sh AUTHORS This man page was written by .An Alexander Langer Ar alex@FreeBSD.org . --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="DECLARE_MODULE.9" .\" -*- nroff -*- .\" .\" Copyright (c) 2000 Alexander Langer .\" .\" All rights reserved. .\" .\" This program is free software. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions .\" are met: .\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. .\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the .\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. .\" .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPERS ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES .\" OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. .\" IN NO EVENT SHALL THE DEVELOPERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, .\" INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT .\" NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, .\" DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY .\" THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT .\" (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF .\" THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. .\" .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" .Dd March 03, 2001 .Dt DECLARE_MODULE 9 .Os .Sh NAME .Nm DECLARE_MODULE .Nd kernel module declaration macro .Sh SYNOPSIS .Fd #include .Fn DECLARE_MODULE "name" "moduledata_t data" "sub" "order" .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Fn DECLARE_MODULE macro declares a generic kernel module. It is used to register the module with the system, using the .Fn SYSINIT macro. .Fn DECLARE_MODULE is usually used within other macros, such as .Xr DRIVER_MODULE 9 , .Xr CDEV_MODULE 9 and .Xr SYSCALL_MODULE 9 . However, it can be called directly of course, for example in order to implement dynamic sysctls. .Pp The arguments to .Fn DECLARE_MODULE : .Pp .Fa name is the name of the module, which will be used in the .Fn SYSINIT call to identify the module. .Pp .Fa data is a pointer to the .Dv moduledata_t structure, which contains two main items, the official name of the module name, which will be used in the .Dv module_t structure and a pointer to the event handler function of type .Dv modeventhand_t . .Pp .Fa sub is an argument directed to the .Fn SYSINIT macro. Valid values for this are contained in the .Dv sysstem_sub_id enumeration (see .Pa kernel.h ) and specify the type of system startup interfaces. The .Xr DRIVER_MODULE 9 macro uses a value of .Dv SI_SUB_DRIVERS here for example, since these modules contain a driver for a device. For kernel modules that are loaded at runtime, a value of .Dv SI_SUB_EXEC is common. .Pp The .Fa order value is another argument for .Fn SYSINIT . It represents the KLDs order of initialization within the subsystem. Valid values are defined in the .Dv sysinit_elem_order enumeration .Pa ( kernel.h ) . .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr module 9 , .Xr CDEV_MODULE 9 , .Xr DRIVER_MODULE 9 , .Xr SYSCALL_MODULE 9 , .Pa /usr/include/sys/kernel.h , .Pa /usr/share/examples/kld .Sh AUTHORS This manual page was written by .An Alexander Langer Aq alex@FreeBSD.org , inspired by the KLD Facility Programming Tutorial by .An Andrew Reiter Aq arr@watson.org . --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 4 9:51:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BA337B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:51:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f24AuIx00331; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:56:19 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:56:18 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Stefan `Sec` Zehl Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en Makefile Message-ID: <20010304105618.A300@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200102241031.f1OAVTZ82598@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010225064044.A68105@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010227122027.A2079@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <20010227121401.A2631@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010228224508.A2745@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <20010228233653.A1692@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010303173639.B25057@matrix.42.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010303173639.B25057@matrix.42.org>; from sec@42.org on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 05:36:39PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 05:36:39PM +0100, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 11:36:53PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 10:45:08PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > Symlinks on a web server are evil. It hurt. Don't do that! Period!!! > >=20 > > References? Granted, it's been about 18 months since I was doing web > > work professionally, but that's not a view I've heard expoused with such > > vehemence. It's true that depending on the server configuration you > > might incur an extra lstat(2) call, but that's about it. > >=20 > > If it's a huge problem, we can always make .../{FAQ, handbook, tutorial= s}=20 > > be real directories, and then populate them with hardlinks instead. > >=20 > > Either way, the content is only on the disk once, rather than in multip= le > > places. >=20 > Symlinks _are_ evil. The alternate paths will (eventually) get linked > somewhere. This will induce more load by the Webspiders which find > everthing twice. These alternate locations will pollute the caches, too. > The pages will show up in duplicate.=20 robots.txt solves all these problems. > And last of all, you can't tell its > a symlink which means this breaks down when mirroring via wget/webcopy. You shouldn't be mirroring like that, you should be pulling down the www/ and doc/ repositories, and building the site locally. > If you really must do it, put rules in the webserver config to disallow > acces to all the alternate paths except one. We can't do that. The whole point is to put *all* the documentation somewhere central, whilst maintaining support for legacy URLs like /handbook/ and /FAQ/. I think we can do this in one of three ways: 1. Use Alias or similar in the webserver config file. Pro: Uses very little disk space. Con: Has all the problems you outline above, in terms of the same content being available from multiple URLs. Con: Means that our mirrors have to know what our web server config file looks like. Con: Means that if you try to test the website locally you need to be running a webserver in order to check everything. 2. Install the same content multiple times in the web tree. Pro: Very simple to do. Pro: Means content will work when testing locally. Con: Additional disk space taken up by duplicated content. 3. Use symlinks. Pro: All the advantages of (2), without the Con: The alternative is to continue kludging documentation in to our existing structure on the website. This structure boils down to: 1. "Important" documents are accessible from the document root (/handbook, /FAQ). 2. Everything else comes under a tutorials/ section. This categorisation doesn't work. It used to work when we only had the FAQ, the Handbook, and a couple of other small documents, but the doc/ repo is growing. The second chapter of "The Design and Implementation=20 of 4.4BSD" shouldn't (IMHO) appear directly under the document root, nor=20 is it a tutorial. Ditto for the FDP Primer, the Porter's Handbook, the=20 Committer's Guide, the Developer's Handbook, ... . I hope to have a chapter of "The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide" up soon as well, which won't fit in to the existing structure. We have a structure under doc/ that works and that is very easy to classify documentation in to. The paths are a little long, but most people are never going to be typing those paths in -- they'll either be clicking on links on our site, or links returned from a search engine, or entries in their bookmarks, so I think this is a non-issue. The only thing we absolutely *must* do is make sure that existing URLs continue to work. And I think the best way to do this is with a combination of symlinks and a robots.txt file that stops search engines from indexing the linked content. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqiH1EACgkQk6gHZCw343VuhwCcCn8Swhw9M1ndPY8fsIygiyOV bMcAoIwlNL34XRZRpewIdjX5u3pLlQwq =6lIY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 4 13: 0: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EE737B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:59:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f24KxXN24224; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:59:33 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:59:32 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@Freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shrinking the FAQ Message-ID: <20010304205932.A24202@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010301173036.A4708@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010301173036.A4708@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 05:30:37PM +0000 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 05:30:37PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > This simple patch reduces the depth of the Postscript (and therefore=20 > PDF) tables of contents. It also removes the leading indent on body=20 > copy. >=20 > This reduces the size of the Postscript Handbook by about a megabyte. >=20 > Asthetics isn't my strong suit. Any objections? No objections, so committed. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqirLMACgkQk6gHZCw343W0SACeIGAyY7JzAC/CzwUllLiOqDFh 5hkAnjOVEO8/ouCGu9nTgepN79g6JNRs =Bbsk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 4 13:20:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server.schlacter.dyndns.org (cs28152-50.satx.rr.com [24.28.152.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5456637B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:20:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martinschlacter@satx.rr.com) Received: from marty (marty.schlacter.dyndns.org [192.168.1.20]) by server.schlacter.dyndns.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f24LKjC20868 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:20:46 -0600 From: "Marty Schlacter" To: Subject: Soliciting feedback on new FreeBSD HOWTO Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:20:45 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm submitting this message to solicit feedback on a HOWTO I just created. It is a 12-page HOWTO that walks you through building a firewall based off FreeBSD-STABLE and IPFILTER. Here's the relevant info: Title: How to Build a FreeBSD-STABLE Firewall with IPFILTER URL: http://www.schlacter.dyndns.org/public/FreeBSD-STABLE_and_IPFILTER.html Author: Marty Schlacter Email: martinschlacter@satx.rr.com Description: HOWTO that walks you through building a FreeBSD-STABLE firewall with IPFILTER. This is a checklist that walks you through the entire process from beginning to end: installing FreeBSD-stable, recompiling the kernel, OpenSSH security, TCP-wrappers, VESA video modes, and special syslog logging for your firewall. Thanks, in advance, for any and all feedback/improvements you might have. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 4 15:39:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708AE37B719; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:39:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id AAA10490; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:39:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA01837; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:22:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:22:48 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en Makefile Message-ID: <20010304232247.C1647@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <200102241031.f1OAVTZ82598@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010225064044.A68105@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010227122027.A2079@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <7mwva9y48r.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20010301145623.A3225@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20010301145623.A3225@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 02:56:23PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-03-01 14:56:23 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > I'd like to > > 1. Agree that all documentation installs in the website under a > single point. Currently, I prefer docs/ (or doc/). currently the single point is / and for the translated contents // if you change this for the english pages to /docs/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/ - where will be the location of the japanese handbook? 1. /docs/ja_JP.eucJP/books/handbook or 2. /ja/docs/ja_JP.eucJP/books/handbook IMHO both are confusing. with 1) we would have *two* / subdirectories on the homepage, // and /docs// A link from /ja/docproj/who.html would point outside the /ja/ prefix to /docs/ja_JP.eucJP/books/handbook/ > 2. Use symlinks to grandfather in existing shortcuts (/FAQ, > /handbook, and a handful of others) so that existing URLs work. No. > Then our mirrors can be true mirrors, without having to see our > httpd.conf (or even run the same server software that we do). > > 3. Establish a policy that no new documentation should install > directly under the document root. Ok. > Much, much, much longer term I'd like to consider moving the documentation > off on to its own subdomain, doc.freebsd.org or similar. That's a > sufficiently big project that I don't want to go anywhere near it at the > moment, as we'd just get bogged down. Why do you want move the documentation off the main web site? Who would use the FreeBSD web site if there is no real contents??? There is already a docs.freebsd.org site for rare used documentation and historically documents (info pages, 44BSD docs, mailing lists). > We should also periodically monitor the error logs, as people learn and > bookmark the new URLs. Suppose that, right now, .../FAQ/ gets 10,000 > hits a month (I've got no idea what the true figure is). Eventually > that'll drop, as the new URLs become commonplace. We could agree that > when the figure drops to something like 50 hits a month (which could > take a year or more) we replace .../FAQ/ with a message that says "This > content has moved to...". From my experience, people does not fix bookmarks. I updated some weeks ago the apache web server on freefall. I did a little experiment and removed all old redirects to test how many dead links are in use and if users care about broken links. There are many dead links in use and some users complaints. So I added most redirects back. Some of the broken links are dead since 4 or 5 years ... I worked for a company which changed their name from foo-berlin.de to foo.de. The company have a paid webmaster and the webmaster contacted every other webmaster if he found a dead link to the old domain. Even after 3 years, there are still dead links ... -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 4 15:40:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5717537B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:40:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id AAA10497; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:40:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA01675; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:41:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:41:15 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en Makefile Message-ID: <20010304224114.A1647@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <200102241031.f1OAVTZ82598@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010225064044.A68105@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010227122027.A2079@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <7mwva9y48r.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <7mwva9y48r.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 11:04:52PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-03-01 23:04:52 +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > One point we should consider is we have much documents than good old > days ((c) Wolfram :-)). But I think root namespace (such as /FAQ, More documents does not necessarily mean that is harder to maintain them - it will just took longer to compile the documents ;-) There is no reason that we cannot make $ cvs co handbook; cd handbook; make all work again. I guess it is less than 1 day work to implement this feature again. I'm sure this would improve the quality of the commits because it is easier to test a simple change (and no excuse anymore to not test the patch). -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 4 15:40:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129B737B726; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id AAA10504; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:40:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA01739; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:38 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en Makefile Message-ID: <20010304225438.B1647@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <200102241031.f1OAVTZ82598@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010225064044.A68105@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010227122027.A2079@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <7mwva9y48r.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20010301145623.A3225@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20010301145623.A3225@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 02:56:23PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-03-01 14:56:23 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 11:04:52PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:20:27 +0100, > > Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > This is confusing and not acceptable. A page which can > > > be read on a web server will be read (Murphys Law). This will > > > increase the robots load by several ten-thousend page views per day! > > > In general, never use symlinks to directories on a web server. > > > > I support Wolfram about this. We should avoid symlinks as much as we > > can. This breaks search engine's result by returning same contents > > with multiple URLs. > > Way, way, way too late: > > http://www.freebsd.org/news/ > http://www.freebsd.org/news/index.html > http://www.freebsd.org/news/news.html > > and other examples (commercial/, copyright/, docproj/, gallery/, > internal/, projects/, search/, security/). This are symlinks to *FILES*. This is harmless. If we have 20 symlinks to files, and 20 robots per day, this would be additional 400 HTTP hits. Search engines knowns how to deal with directory listings (/news/ <-> /news.index.html) This is a common case. A symlink to a directory is in practice a recursivly copy of the directory and duplicate the contents. One symlink may add serveral hundreds or thousands new files to the server! -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 4 15:40:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1C037B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:40:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id AAA10510; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:40:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id AAA02062; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:22:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wosch) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:22:47 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: Wolfram Schneider , Nik Clayton Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en Makefile Message-ID: <20010305002247.A2033@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <200102241031.f1OAVTZ82598@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010225064044.A68105@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010227122027.A2079@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <20010227121401.A2631@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010228224508.A2745@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <20010228233653.A1692@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20010228233653.A1692@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 11:36:53PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-02-28 23:36:53 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > Let's continue this on -doc. It would be great if you could start by > outlining what your plans are for the website for the next 6-12 months, > what you think it's shortcomings are, and how you are planning on > getting them fixed. my todo list for the next 3 months: 1. Security move www.freebsd.org to a new machine with better security (jail, firewall, no user cgi scripts) 2. Search find a replacement for freewais. While freewais is doing 95% of the job, the missing 4% are sometimes annoying. I prefer the Altavista Search Developer Kit, but I don't know if we can get a free license from Altavista/Compaq. A commercially license is to expensive. 3. internal documentation write a FreeBSD webmaster FAQ - FreeBSD web server architecture - the running services (cgi scripts, databases) - administration and maintaince scripts, configuration files etc. - ... there are some minor tasks, e.g. fixing the slow portindex perl script or replace commercial.raw with commercial.xml FreeBSD is driven by developers. There is no boss, core team or webmaster who says `do this!' If you have a good idea, want to implement and test it, and it is consensus to do it, just go. -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 4 15:40:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129EF37B719; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:40:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id AAA10511; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:40:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA01889; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:34:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:34:50 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Nik Clayton Cc: Stefan `Sec` Zehl , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en Makefile Message-ID: <20010304233450.D1647@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <200102241031.f1OAVTZ82598@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010225064044.A68105@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010227122027.A2079@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <20010227121401.A2631@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010228224508.A2745@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <20010228233653.A1692@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010303173639.B25057@matrix.42.org> <20010304105618.A300@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20010304105618.A300@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 10:56:18AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-03-04 10:56:18 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 05:36:39PM +0100, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote: > > Symlinks _are_ evil. The alternate paths will (eventually) get linked > > somewhere. This will induce more load by the Webspiders which find > > everthing twice. These alternate locations will pollute the caches, too. > > The pages will show up in duplicate. > > robots.txt solves all these problems. robots.txt works for the big search engines (most of them ...) There are so many broken robots in the world which ignoring the robots exclusion standard. In freefalls httpd.conf you will find a long list of broken robots implementations by robot name which are blocked to access /cgi There is also a list of sites which is completley banned. This robots use a standard UserAgent name 'Netscape'. I guess the robots traffic on www.freebsd.org is up to 30% of the total traffic. > > And last of all, you can't tell its > > a symlink which means this breaks down when mirroring via wget/webcopy. > > You shouldn't be mirroring like that, you should be pulling down the > www/ and doc/ repositories, and building the site locally. Tell this user Joe. User Joe use a Windows or Linux box to mirror documents from www.freebsd.org. We cannot stop user Joe from doing this. -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 4 16:42: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from klapaucius.zer0.org (klapaucius.zer0.org [204.152.186.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9811637B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:41:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: by klapaucius.zer0.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6ED9E239A53; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:41:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:41:59 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Marty Schlacter Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Soliciting feedback on new FreeBSD HOWTO Message-ID: <20010304164159.F45600@klapaucius.zer0.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from martinschlacter@satx.rr.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 03:20:45PM -0600 Organization: daemonnews Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-03-04 15:20 -0600, Marty Schlacter wrote: > I'm submitting this message to solicit feedback on a HOWTO I just created. > It is a 12-page HOWTO that walks you through building a firewall based off > FreeBSD-STABLE and IPFILTER. Here's the relevant info: > > Title: How to Build a FreeBSD-STABLE Firewall with IPFILTER > URL: > http://www.schlacter.dyndns.org/public/FreeBSD-STABLE_and_IPFILTER.html Marty, This looks like it would make an excellent Daemon News article. Are you interested in having it published by Daemon News? It could then be added to the FreeBSD documentation, or published anywhere else you like, since DN only requires the rights to print and reprint articles. The author retains copyright. Please let me know if you're interested! Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter Was Jimi's modem a Purple Hayes? mailto:gsutter@daemonnews.org hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net/0x845DFEDD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 4 20:22: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from izzy6.izzy.net (izzy6.izzy.net [206.84.176.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F054E37B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:22:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from barry@izzy.net) Received: from izzy.net (nic-163-c216-126.mw.mediaone.net [24.163.216.126]) by izzy6.izzy.net (8.9.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03044 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:22:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA314A9.21FB17E1@izzy.net> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:25:10 -0500 From: "Barry St. Pierre" Reply-To: barry@stpierre.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Before you install from Installation Guide Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am considering installing version 4.2 from scratch. I currently have 3.3 installed and would like some info on how to check how the hardware is configured currently. I think this info should appear in the "Before you install" section of the Installation Guide. Thank you, Barry St. Pierre barry@stpierre.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 1:52:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2616B37B718; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:52:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f259jY002679; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:45:34 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:45:33 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: "David O'Brien" Subject: HEADS-UP: Using www/links instead of www/w3m Message-ID: <20010305094533.A2652@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200102202001.f1KK1Wn35420@freefall.freebsd.org> <18731.982779702@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> <20010222002023.A11532@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <3A950131.97836B48@urx.com> <20010222182844.B42668@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010223033303.D1785@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010224041948.C47861@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010227132304.B67703@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010228105140.A59615@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010228105140.A59615@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 10:51:40AM +0000 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's possible no one paid much attention to this, since the subject line wasn't terribly descriptive. I'm resending. If there's no feedback by mid-week I'll assume the change is benign for the translators, and commit. N On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 10:51:40AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 01:23:04PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 04:19:52AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > For OpenJade you can use -DOPENJADE. > >=20 > > Can you add logic to the Makefile such that it is defined if running on > > the Alpha? >=20 > See patch. >=20 > > > There's no replacement for w3m yet. Does links (ports/www/links) work > > > on the Alpha, and does it handle tables? > >=20 > > It works on the Alpha. It claims to handle tables, but you would be a > > better judge if links or lynx is better. >=20 > Attached is a patch that turns on OpenJade if running on the Alpha, and > uses links instead of w3m. I'll also need to update the docproj port to > pull in www/links instead of w3m/lynx as necessary. >=20 > I'd be grateful if people could test this out. The output from links is > slightly different to the output from w3m, but I think it's a bit more > readable. >=20 > However, I have done *no* testing on the translations. Please could the > translation teams check that this does the right thing for them. >=20 > Cheers. I'd like to commit this by the end of the week. >=20 > N > --=20 > Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. > Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, > hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. > Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCar= d. > -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery Index: doc.docbook.mk =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk,v retrieving revision 1.27 diff -u -r1.27 doc.docbook.mk --- doc.docbook.mk 2001/02/26 22:56:59 1.27 +++ doc.docbook.mk 2001/02/28 10:47:56 @@ -53,7 +53,7 @@ =20 MASTERDOC?=3D ${.CURDIR}/${DOC}.${DOCBOOKSUFFIX} =20 -.if !defined(OPENJADE) +.if !defined(OPENJADE) || ${MACHINE_ARCH} =3D=3D "alpha" JADE?=3D ${PREFIX}/bin/jade JADECATALOG?=3D ${PREFIX}/share/sgml/jade/catalog NSGMLS?=3D ${PREFIX}/bin/nsgmls @@ -226,7 +226,7 @@ tar uf ${.TARGET} ${IMAGES_PNG} =20 ${DOC}.txt: ${DOC}.html-text - w3m -T text/html -S -dump ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} + links -dump ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} =20 ${DOC}.pdb: ${DOC}.html iSiloBSD -y -d0 -Idef ${DOC}.html ${DOC}.pdb --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqjYDwACgkQk6gHZCw343WT9QCfTbQQYQ/VLB+k+/9Vcj/Df190 j98AoIXEtQrgpaErwycJnOmq/XtxggqA =BvZG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 5:16:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.raditex.se (mail.raditex.se [192.5.36.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C28237B71A; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:16:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaj@raditex.se) Received: from gandalf.Raditex.se (gandalf.raditex.se [192.5.36.18]) by ns.raditex.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27795; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:16:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kaj@raditex.se) Received: from frodo.sickla.raditex.se (frodo.sickla.raditex.se [192.168.37.9]) by gandalf.Raditex.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08793; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:16:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kaj@raditex.se) Received: (from kaj@localhost) by frodo.sickla.raditex.se (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f25DGZ244078; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:16:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kaj@raditex.se) X-Authentication-Warning: frodo.sickla.raditex.se: kaj set sender to kaj@raditex.se using -f To: Nik Clayton Cc: Stefan `Sec` Zehl , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en Makefile References: <200102241031.f1OAVTZ82598@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010225064044.A68105@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010227122027.A2079@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <20010227121401.A2631@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010228224508.A2745@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <20010228233653.A1692@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010303173639.B25057@matrix.42.org> <20010304105618.A300@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> From: Rasmus Kaj Original-Sender: kaj@Raditex.se Cc: Rasmus Kaj Organization: Raditex AB - http://Raditex.se/ X-Face: M9cR~WYav<"fu%MaslX0`43PAYY?uIsM8[#E(0\Xuy9rj>4gE\h3jm.7DD?]R8*^7T\o&vT U@[53Dwkuup4[0@gw#~kyu>`unH?kVj9CJa02(h>Ki\+i=%rn%sDf^KC.!?IHkKjMAbkd\jgmphp^' d|Q;OeXEAhq?ybGqOs1CHb6TJT42'C`Krnk61//AOfXtNjj/t'`5>Vw0QX!dKfOL$.f+S"LIuwR<;I Z0Qnnx(F^F]o@*V%TUtEV'1Z[TkOl^FFV9Z~A[b19%}uP*,huCU Date: 05 Mar 2001 14:16:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: Nik Clayton's message of "Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:56:18 +0000" Message-ID: <84snks5pak.fsf@frodo.sickla.raditex.se> Lines: 48 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Capitol Reef) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "NC" == Nik Clayton writes: [ in a deiscussion of wether symlinks in web is inherently bad ] >> If you really must do it, put rules in the webserver config to disallow >> acces to all the alternate paths except one. NC> We can't do that. The whole point is to put *all* the documentation NC> somewhere central, whilst maintaining support for legacy URLs like NC> /handbook/ and /FAQ/. I think we can do this in one of three ways: NC> 1. Use Alias or similar in the webserver config file. NC> 2. Install the same content multiple times in the web tree. NC> 3. Use symlinks. There is one more way: 4. Configure the web server to redirect (response codes 3xx). I'll walk through your pros and cons of 1 - 3 and see which applies to 4: Pro: Uses wery little disk space (like 1, and 3). Pro: Works well with spiders and old links (like 1, 2, and 3). Con: Means that our mirrors have to know what our web server config file looks like (like 1). Con: Means that if you try to test the website locally you need to be running a webserver in order to check everything (like 1), well, I personally don't really consider this a con. Pro: Very simple to do. NC> The only thing we absolutely *must* do is make sure that existing URLs NC> continue to work. Agreed, but there should only be one "correct" URL for each page, (except the foo/ foo/index.html duplicate) other URLs should redirect to that. -- Rasmus Kaj ------------------------ rasmus@kaj.se - http://Raditex.se/~kaj/ \ Machines should work. 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The more authors, > articles, and subscriptions we have, the better we get. So if > you're interested in writing, let me know. If you want to > subscribe, you can do so at the Daemon News Mall: > > http://mall.daemonnews.org/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=880 > > Jim, I certainly hope _you've_ subscribed... Oh, come now. You can't tell me that BSDi doesn't have a stack of them around the office. :) Seriously, there is a major opening for BSD authors right now. I have more requests for articles than I can possibly fill. The only limitation on BSD press is *us*. Heck, I could probably have been a -doc committer by now if I hadn't been churning out articles. If you want BSD to be a buzzword, then make some buzz. There's editors out there willing -- nay, eager -- to help. -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 9:20:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3CC37B71C for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:20:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f25HK5i40974; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:20:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D202337B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:14:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f25HEtA40285; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:14:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200103051714.f25HEtA40285@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:14:55 -0800 (PST) From: B.Candler@pobox.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/25556: "Upgrading FreeBSD from source" tutorial does not exist or hard to find Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 25556 >Category: docs >Synopsis: "Upgrading FreeBSD from source" tutorial does not exist or hard to find >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Mar 05 09:20:05 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Brian Candler >Release: 4.2-RELEASE >Organization: >Environment: >Description: UPGRADE.TXT says: Those interested in an upgrade method that allows more flexibility and sophistication should take a look at the "Upgrading FreeBSD from source" tutorial found at http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html However I cannot find this document there, nor at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 10:49:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8F537B718; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:48:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f25IkZ508733; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:46:35 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:46:34 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Nik Clayton , Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en Makefile Message-ID: <20010305184634.A8128@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200102241031.f1OAVTZ82598@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010225064044.A68105@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010227122027.A2079@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <7mwva9y48r.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20010301145623.A3225@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010304232247.C1647@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010304232247.C1647@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org>; from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:22:48PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wolfram, I've rolled all your replies up in to one message to make the threading easier. On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:22:48PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 2001-03-01 14:56:23 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > I'd like to=20 > >=20 > > 1. Agree that all documentation installs in the website under a > > single point. Currently, I prefer docs/ (or doc/). >=20 > currently the single point is / and for the translated contents // No it's not. If it was, we wouldn't have the tutorials/ directory. > if you change this for the english pages to > /docs/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/ >=20 > - where will be the location of the japanese handbook? >=20 > 1. /docs/ja_JP.eucJP/books/handbook > or > 2. /ja/docs/ja_JP.eucJP/books/handbook >=20 > IMHO both are confusing. with 1) we would have *two* / > subdirectories on the homepage, // and /docs// > A link from /ja/docproj/who.html would point outside the /ja/ > prefix to /docs/ja_JP.eucJP/books/handbook/ Personally? I would prefer everything under docs/, mirroring the layout of the doc/ repo (actually, we could just call the directory doc/ instead of docs/). Practically, I suspect ja/ will need to be grandfathered into any new scheme as well. I also think that in the translated websites, the default links should point to the local language version. So if you're looking at the Japanese web site, /handbook should take you to the Japanese Handbook. I have no idea whether this is a popular point of view or not. > > 2. Use symlinks to grandfather in existing shortcuts (/FAQ, > > /handbook, and a handful of others) so that existing URLs work. >=20 > No. mkdir handbook cd handbook for i in ../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/* ; do ln -s $i `basename $i` ; done so then we symlink to files rather than the directory (which you say is OK a little later on). [ That's not quite correct, because some documents will have subdirectories that we'll need to recurse in to, but it's close, and you get the idea ] > > Much, much, much longer term I'd like to consider moving the documentat= ion=20 > > off on to its own subdomain, doc.freebsd.org or similar. That's a > > sufficiently big project that I don't want to go anywhere near it at the > > moment, as we'd just get bogged down. >=20 > Why do you want move the documentation off the main web site?=20 Fantasies about docs.sun.com. I suggest that any sort of change in direction to go to that sort of model is best done on a completely fresh web site, with no historial baggage. > Who would use the FreeBSD web site if there is no real contents??? People looking for ports PRs announcements mailing list info a search engine cvsweb vendor lists project information ... > There is already a docs.freebsd.org site for rare used documentation > and historically documents (info pages, 44BSD docs, mailing lists). Is there? Oh, so there is. Where is the CVS repo for this then? I've just tried this: http://www.freebsd.org/info goes to docs.freebsd.org/info http://www.uk.freebsd.org/info gives "Error 404". As does every other mirror I tried. This is *exactly* the sort of situation I want to avoid. We may as well not have mirrors if we make it so difficult for them to mirror the content properly. > > We should also periodically monitor the error logs, as people learn and > > bookmark the new URLs. Suppose that, right now, .../FAQ/ gets 10,000 > > hits a month (I've got no idea what the true figure is). Eventually > > that'll drop, as the new URLs become commonplace. We could agree that > > when the figure drops to something like 50 hits a month (which could > > take a year or more) we replace .../FAQ/ with a message that says "This > > content has moved to...". >=20 > >From my experience, people does not fix bookmarks. > I updated some weeks ago the apache web server on freefall. I did > a little experiment and removed all old redirects to test > how many dead links are in use and if users care about broken links. >=20 > There are many dead links in use and some users complaints. > So I added most redirects back. Some of the broken links are > dead since 4 or 5 years ... How many complaints? =20 > On 2001-03-01 14:56:23 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 11:04:52PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > > At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:20:27 +0100, > > > Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > > This is confusing and not acceptable. A page which can > > > > be read on a web server will be read (Murphys Law). This will > > > > increase the robots load by several ten-thousend page views per day! > > > > In general, never use symlinks to directories on a web server. > > >=20 > > > I support Wolfram about this. We should avoid symlinks as much as we > > > can. This breaks search engine's result by returning same contents > > > with multiple URLs. > >=20 > > Way, way, way too late: > >=20 > > http://www.freebsd.org/news/ > > http://www.freebsd.org/news/index.html > > http://www.freebsd.org/news/news.html > >=20 > > and other examples (commercial/, copyright/, docproj/, gallery/, > > internal/, projects/, search/, security/). >=20 > This are symlinks to *FILES*. This is harmless. If we have 20 > symlinks to files, and 20 robots per day, this would be=20 > additional 400 HTTP hits. =20 > Search engines knowns how to deal with directory listings > (/news/ <-> /news.index.html) This is a common case. This isn't the search engine doing this, it's the webserver sending back a redirect. > A symlink to a directory is in practice a recursivly copy of > the directory and duplicate the contents. One symlink may > add serveral hundreds or thousands new files to the server! I'm (seriously) curious about how that could occur. Could you elaborate? > On 2001-02-28 23:36:53 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > Let's continue this on -doc. It would be great if you could start by > > outlining what your plans are for the website for the next 6-12 months, > > what you think it's shortcomings are, and how you are planning on > > getting them fixed. >=20 > my todo list for the next 3 months: >=20 > 1. Security > =20 > move www.freebsd.org to a new machine with better security > (jail, firewall, no user cgi scripts) Absolutely. > 2. Search >=20 > find a replacement for freewais. While freewais is doing > 95% of the job, the missing 4% are sometimes annoying. > I prefer the Altavista Search Developer Kit, but I don't know > if we can get a free license from Altavista/Compaq. A commercially > license is to expensive.=20 What's the missing 4%? I know we get complaints about certain features, but what do you want to see fixed? If we can get a (simple) specification put together, that might be enough to let someone else do the work. > 3. internal documentation >=20 > write a FreeBSD webmaster FAQ > - FreeBSD web server architecture > - the running services (cgi scripts, databases) > - administration and maintaince scripts, configuration files etc. > - ... Please. > there are some minor tasks, e.g. fixing the slow portindex perl script > or replace commercial.raw with commercial.xml Yep. > On 2001-03-04 10:56:18 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 05:36:39PM +0100, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote: > > > Symlinks _are_ evil. The alternate paths will (eventually) get linked > > > somewhere. This will induce more load by the Webspiders which find > > > everthing twice. These alternate locations will pollute the caches, t= oo. > > > The pages will show up in duplicate.=20 > >=20 > > robots.txt solves all these problems. >=20 > robots.txt works for the big search engines (most of them ...) >=20 > There are so many broken robots in the world which ignoring > the robots exclusion standard. In freefalls httpd.conf you will find > a long list of broken robots implementations by robot name > which are blocked to access /cgi Our mirrors aren't benefiting from this list. > There is also a list of sites which is completley banned. This > robots use a standard UserAgent name 'Netscape'. > > I guess the robots traffic on www.freebsd.org is up to 30% of > the total traffic. What is the total traffic? > > > And last of all, you can't tell its > > > a symlink which means this breaks down when mirroring via wget/webcop= y. > >=20 > > You shouldn't be mirroring like that, you should be pulling down the > > www/ and doc/ repositories, and building the site locally. >=20 > Tell this user Joe. User Joe use a Windows or Linux box to=20 > mirror documents from www.freebsd.org. We cannot stop user Joe > from doing this. Shit happens. How many people do we think are doing this, based on the logs? > On 2001-03-01 23:04:52 +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > One point we should consider is we have much documents than good old > > days ((c) Wolfram :-)). But I think root namespace (such as /FAQ, >=20 > More documents does not necessarily mean that is harder to > maintain them - it will just took longer to compile the=20 > documents ;-) >=20 > There is no reason that we cannot make >=20 > $ cvs co handbook; cd handbook; make all >=20 > work again. I guess it is less than 1 day work to implement > this feature again. That's like expecting to check out a src/bin/cp and build it without a fully populated /usr/include or /usr/lib. Not going to happen. =20 > I'm sure this would improve the quality of the commits because > it is easier to test a simple change (and no excuse anymore to > not test the patch). make lint N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqj3wkACgkQk6gHZCw343V7awCfTrtwmTmqWbPSLtTsDPVBufgS XHcAn0PwYObGoROOwOWXU0JDeuIJhHP0 =I5x/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 11: 0:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAD237B722 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:00:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f25J0Xe56037 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:00:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:00:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103051900.f25J0Xe56037@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/12/28] docs/23910 doc Handbook Chapter 14. Sound -- some fixes o [2001/01/05] docs/24083 doc change layout and content of kernel build o [2001/01/15] docs/24363 doc lack of explanation o [2001/03/05] docs/25556 doc "Upgrading FreeBSD from source" tutorial 5 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp f [2000/03/20] docs/17521 doc Proposed FAQ on assembly programming o [2000/03/25] docs/17598 doc installworld over NFS documentation no lo o [2000/04/03] kern/17774 doc stray irq7 o [2000/05/03] docs/18379 doc Information on SSH hard to find in Handbo o [2000/05/19] docs/18674 doc ntptime.htm and ntptime.8 o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; o [2000/06/23] docs/19481 doc Serial Communications chapter in Handbook o [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) o [2000/08/23] docs/20794 doc Request 2 good documents under people.fre o [2000/10/07] docs/21826 doc ARP proxy feature lacks documentation o [2000/10/10] docs/21896 doc Mini-HOWTO for stp driver o [2000/10/26] docs/22333 doc share/doc/smm/07.lpd building moved in 3. o [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2000/11/08] docs/22701 doc lists missing from search options o [2000/11/11] docs/22778 doc Typo's in About.txt-Layout.txt o [2000/11/14] docs/22861 doc newsyslog man page is misleading and inco o [2000/12/01] docs/23230 doc missing index.html links o [2000/12/03] docs/23251 doc exports(5) man page erroneous in 4.2-STAB o [2000/12/04] docs/23292 doc /etc/dumpdates is not documented in secti o [2000/12/06] docs/23324 doc add information to FAQ on how to use whee o [2000/12/11] docs/23488 doc A manpage for section 7 regarding a Toron o [2000/12/14] docs/23559 doc missing manpage for hsearch libc function o [2000/12/22] docs/23767 doc ifconfig(8) manual page does not document o [2001/01/02] docs/24035 doc ptrace(2) PT_STEP incorrect documentation o [2001/01/13] docs/24305 doc man page syscons has reference to non exi o [2001/01/26] docs/24662 doc too many questions about source managemen o [2001/01/31] docs/24751 doc [PATCH] Digest list descriptions are out o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/02/02] docs/24802 doc fcntl man page does not specify what happ o [2001/02/03] docs/24839 doc fix ether.bridge o [2001/02/05] docs/24869 doc Some text elf.5 is duplicated o [2001/02/05] docs/24887 doc "make -j# installworld" can (will?) fail o [2001/02/05] docs/24888 doc [PATCH] New FAQ entry about inappropriate o [2001/02/06] docs/24923 doc 4.2 Release Errata page has no informatio o [2001/02/11] docs/25000 doc matcd(4) SYNOPSIS is wrong o [2001/02/11] docs/25016 doc symlink(7) manpage says symlinks have no o [2001/02/12] docs/25053 doc kld(4) manpage is obsolete for -current o [2001/02/15] docs/25126 doc minor nits in whatis(1) command o [2001/02/16] docs/25134 doc Kernel USER_LDT option help incomplete o [2001/02/17] docs/25164 doc makewhatis(1) seems to be fouling up o [2001/02/18] docs/25184 doc Clean last tracks of CIRCLEQ from queue.3 o [2001/02/18] docs/25188 doc [PATCH] getaddrinfo(3) manual page has an o [2001/02/20] docs/25227 doc Lack of the description for some options o [2001/02/20] docs/25239 doc fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about o [2001/02/21] docs/25252 doc devfs.5: /devs -> /dev o [2001/02/26] docs/25390 doc [PATCH] FAQ Entry for Shell Accounts o [2001/02/26] docs/25392 doc Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu o [2001/02/26] docs/25405 doc misleading warning from catman(1), etc. o [2001/02/27] docs/25417 doc Broken link on page http://www.freebsd.or o [2001/02/27] docs/25420 doc man page missing important information. o [2001/02/27] docs/25437 doc kernel configs are the only precious file o [2001/02/27] docs/25447 doc [PATCH] New FAQ entry about inability to o [2001/02/28] docs/25450 doc remove NCPU from docs o [2001/03/02] docs/25496 doc [PATCH} Doc makefiles are not LOCALBASE c o [2001/03/02] docs/25497 doc [PATCH} There is no answer to the FAQ abo o [2001/03/02] docs/25500 doc Update of ip(4) manpage to reflect curren 65 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 11:43:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ebola.biohz.net (ebola.biohz.net [206.80.1.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7187337B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:43:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from renaud@waldura.org) Received: from renaud (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ebola.biohz.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E452E3A295; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:43:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <01b501c0a5ac$96388ba0$3902010a@zerog.int> From: "Renaud Waldura" To: "Marty Schlacter" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Soliciting feedback on new FreeBSD HOWTO Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:43:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Great document. Very helpful. If I were you I'd focus more on the firewall-specific stuff, leaving out the parts about the basic install, VESA etc. that are not really firewall-related. But hey, it doesn't hurt. And flesh out the ruleset section, which is really the important part. Great job, --Renaud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Schlacter" To: Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 1:20 PM Subject: Soliciting feedback on new FreeBSD HOWTO > I'm submitting this message to solicit feedback on a HOWTO I just created. > It is a 12-page HOWTO that walks you through building a firewall based off > FreeBSD-STABLE and IPFILTER. Here's the relevant info: > > Title: How to Build a FreeBSD-STABLE Firewall with IPFILTER > URL: > http://www.schlacter.dyndns.org/public/FreeBSD-STABLE_and_IPFILTER.html > Author: Marty Schlacter > Email: martinschlacter@satx.rr.com > Description: HOWTO that walks you through building a FreeBSD-STABLE firewall > with IPFILTER. This is a checklist that walks you through the entire > process from beginning to end: installing FreeBSD-stable, recompiling the > kernel, OpenSSH security, TCP-wrappers, VESA video modes, and special syslog > logging for your firewall. > > Thanks, in advance, for any and all feedback/improvements you might have. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 12:10: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC5037B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:10:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f25KA4975119; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:10:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:10:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103052010.f25KA4975119@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Salvo Bartolotta Subject: Re: docs/25556: "Upgrading FreeBSD from source" tutorial does not exist or hard to find Reply-To: Salvo Bartolotta Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/25556; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Salvo Bartolotta To: B.Candler@pobox.com Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/25556: "Upgrading FreeBSD from source" tutorial does not exist or hard to find Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 20:12:28 GMT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 3/5/01, 6:14:55 PM, B.Candler@pobox.com wrote regarding docs/25556:=20 "Upgrading FreeBSD from source" tutorial does not exist or hard to=20 find: > >Number: 25556 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: "Upgrading FreeBSD from source" tutorial does not=20 exist or hard to find > >Class: doc-bug > >Submitter-Id: current-users > >Arrival-Date: Mon Mar 05 09:20:05 PST 2001 > >Closed-Date: > >Last-Modified: > >Originator: Brian Candler > >Release: 4.2-RELEASE > >Organization: > >Environment: > >Description: > UPGRADE.TXT says: > Those interested in an upgrade method that allows more flexibility=20 and > sophistication should take a look at the "Upgrading FreeBSD from=20 source" > tutorial found at http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html > However I cannot find this document there, nor at > http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ Dear Brian Chandler, The (rather extensive) "tutorial" you are looking for is found in=20 Chap. XIX of the handbook, which chapter, as well as the entire=20 handbook, is also available online at=20 http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cutting-edge.html=20 As is avalaible free extensive help on the part of FreeBSD users :-) By the way, the handbook is mentioned at=20 http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html=20 Somebody (with commit power) might probably specify the correct link=20 in UPGRADE.TXT before FreeBSD-4.3 is out ? =09 Best regards, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 12:50:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE7F37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:50:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f25KnkH24039; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:49:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: ltp_86@hotmail.com Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Request In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010305124946C.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:49:46 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 24 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Lim Ting Ping Unix" Subject: Request Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 22:41:31 +0800 > I am TingPing.I Am currently thinking of improving the speed of freebsd and > promoting freebsd by setting up a server specially for the sake of FreeBSD.I > hope you will give me the support by approving my request.By the way i am > from Singapore.Please do consider and get back to me when the decision is > up.Thank You. Setting up new servers is something that almost anyone can do, provided they have the bandwidth, the disk space and the technical dexterity required to mirror FreeBSD's ftp, web or cvs content. If you have all of those things, then the next step would be to create the mirror and get the content up on it. After that, you contact hostmaster@tw.freebsd.org to get your server mapped into the tw.freebsd.org domain depending on the type of content you're providing (ftp, www, cvsup, mail, etc). We're a free software group - we don't have a lot of bureaucracy to be overcome for things like this to happen. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 13:21:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A8737B77B for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:21:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:9ZV/lTNZClRGJvllRYBhU1sPVODFgd+h@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) by gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f25LL4691443 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:21:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Message-Id: <200103052121.f25LL4691443@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: tweten@nas.nasa.gov To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Problem Building FreeBSD Documents From: Dave Tweten Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 13:21:03 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I recently began trying to keep an up-to-date set of FreeBSD documents on my machine. So far, I'm not successful. I added "doc-all" to my weekly automatic cvsup, got the tools suggested in Chapter 7 of "FreeBSD Documentation Project Primer for New Contributers", and added cd /usr/doc nice -20 make install > doc.log 2>&1 & to my weekly.local script. The result, last Saturday, was: ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/design-44bsd install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 book.ps.gz /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/ books/design-44bsd eps2png fig1.eps eps2png:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/design-44bsd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc. The file, fig1.eps, clearly exists in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/design-44 bsd and is readable. Any constructive suggestions would be appreciated. -- M/S 258-5 | 1024-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59 | (650) 604-4416 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 | 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6 | FAX: (650) 604-4377 We each earn what freedom of speech we defend for those who most offend us. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 14: 0:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rapier.smartspace.co.za (rapier.smartspace.co.za [66.8.25.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F87437B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:00:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@rapier.smartspace.co.za) Received: (qmail 17174 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Mar 2001 21:59:47 -0000 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:59:47 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Dave Tweten Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem Building FreeBSD Documents Message-ID: <20010305235947.A17063@rapier.smartspace.co.za> References: <200103052121.f25LL4691443@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103052121.f25LL4691443@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov>; from tweten@nas.nasa.gov on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:21:03PM -0800 Organization: Building Intelligence X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon 2001-03-05 (13:21), Dave Tweten wrote: > I recently began trying to keep an up-to-date set of FreeBSD documents on my > machine. So far, I'm not successful. > > I added "doc-all" to my weekly automatic cvsup, got the tools suggested in > Chapter 7 of "FreeBSD Documentation Project Primer for New Contributers", and > added > > cd /usr/doc > nice -20 make install > doc.log 2>&1 & > > to my weekly.local script. The result, last Saturday, was: > > ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/design-44bsd > install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 book.ps.gz /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/ > books/design-44bsd > eps2png fig1.eps > eps2png:No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 Is your docproj port up to date? Of course, it'd help if people used PORTREVISION on the port, but they didn't. It depends on eps2png. Does eps2png exist, or is it just not finding fig1.eps? Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 14:31:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from klapaucius.zer0.org (klapaucius.zer0.org [204.152.186.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8454337B71C for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:31:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: by klapaucius.zer0.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F0813239A54; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:31:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:31:51 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Michael Lucas Cc: Jim Mock , Clinton Roane , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Getting More Users Message-ID: <20010305143151.H45600@klapaucius.zer0.org> References: <20010301171714.C3896@guinness.osdn.com> <20010302191540.B45600@klapaucius.zer0.org> <20010305121345.A64450@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010305121345.A64450@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:13:45PM -0500 Organization: daemonnews Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-03-05 12:13 -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 07:15:40PM -0800, Gregory Sutter wrote: > > > Daemon News now publishes a magazine about BSD, but chances are you'll > > > never see anything mainstream like Linux Journal or Linux Magazine > > > simply because FreeBSD isn't a buzz word like Linux :-) > > > > Hey, we're working on making it mainstream. The more authors, > > articles, and subscriptions we have, the better we get. So if > > you're interested in writing, let me know. If you want to > > subscribe, you can do so at the Daemon News Mall: > > > > http://mall.daemonnews.org/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=880 > > > > Jim, I certainly hope _you've_ subscribed... > > Oh, come now. You can't tell me that BSDi doesn't have a stack of > them around the office. :) I doubt it, but even if they did, Jim now works for OSDN, so he wouldn't be allowed in the office to read one. :) (Jim, does the OSDN office have a couple subscriptions?) > Seriously, there is a major opening for BSD authors right now. I have > more requests for articles than I can possibly fill. The only > limitation on BSD press is *us*. Heck, I could probably have been a > -doc committer by now if I hadn't been churning out articles. Well, when you weigh monetary income vs. a commit bit, I think we know which wins. BTW, when are you going to write an article for Daemon News? :) Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter I got a 1GHz Athlon for my girlfriend. mailto:gsutter@daemonnews.org Good trade! hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net/0x845DFEDD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 14:32:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rapier.smartspace.co.za (rapier.smartspace.co.za [66.8.25.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64EBE37B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:32:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@rapier.smartspace.co.za) Received: (qmail 19477 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Mar 2001 22:32:22 -0000 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:32:22 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Dave Tweten Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem Building FreeBSD Documents Message-ID: <20010306003222.A19422@rapier.smartspace.co.za> References: <200103052121.f25LL4691443@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> <20010305235947.A17063@rapier.smartspace.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010305235947.A17063@rapier.smartspace.co.za>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 11:59:47PM +0200 Organization: Building Intelligence X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon 2001-03-05 (23:59), Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > Is your docproj port up to date? Of course, it'd help if people used > PORTREVISION on the port, but they didn't. It depends on eps2png. That's because they bumped PORTVERSION. Silly me. Do you have docproj-1.3? Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 14:42:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACDE37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:42:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:F2Ji2vi78zWewfP7OtmtBoExbPg0O6kA@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) by gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f25Mfx691729; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:41:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov) Message-Id: <200103052241.f25Mfx691729@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem Building FreeBSD Documents In-Reply-To: Message from Neil Blakey-Milner of "Mon, 05 Mar 2001 23:59:47 +0200." <20010305235947.A17063@rapier.smartspace.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:41:58 -0800 From: Dave Tweten Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org nbm@mithrandr.moria.org said: >Is your docproj port up to date? I built it from the ports distribution of February 15. /var/db/pkg shows docproj-1.1. >Does eps2png exist, or is it just not finding fig1.eps? gilmore 6 - which eps2png /usr/local/bin/eps2png I think it is failing to find fig1.eps, even though the file is in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/design-44bsd. -- M/S 258-5 | 1024-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59 | (650) 604-4416 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 | 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6 | FAX: (650) 604-4377 We each earn what freedom of speech we defend for those who most offend us. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 14:44:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CBB37B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:44:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:NnNSUva8ePdr36h85b9PwBpICg4861C8@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) by gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f25MiP691745; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:44:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov) Message-Id: <200103052244.f25MiP691745@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem Building FreeBSD Documents In-Reply-To: Message from Neil Blakey-Milner of "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 00:32:22 +0200." <20010306003222.A19422@rapier.smartspace.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:44:24 -0800 From: Dave Tweten Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org nbm@mithrandr.moria.org said: >Do you have docproj-1.3? No. That wasn't what built out of the ports package of February 15. I'll refresh my ports and try again. -- M/S 258-5 | 1024-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59 | (650) 604-4416 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 | 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6 | FAX: (650) 604-4377 We each earn what freedom of speech we defend for those who most offend us. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 5 16:16:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from snarf.osdn.com (snarf.osdn.com [209.192.217.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D381337B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:16:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@guinness.osdn.com) Received: from guinness.osdn.com (root@36.mht.dialup.G4.NET [216.177.2.36]) by snarf.osdn.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f260GQL45806; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:16:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim@guinness.osdn.com) Received: (from jim@localhost) by guinness.osdn.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f260F2X06138; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:15:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:15:01 -0500 From: Jim Mock To: Gregory Sutter Cc: Michael Lucas , Clinton Roane , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Getting More Users Message-ID: <20010305191501.B6059@guinness.osdn.com> Reply-To: mij@osdn.com References: <20010301171714.C3896@guinness.osdn.com> <20010302191540.B45600@klapaucius.zer0.org> <20010305121345.A64450@blackhelicopters.org> <20010305143151.H45600@klapaucius.zer0.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.16i In-Reply-To: <20010305143151.H45600@klapaucius.zer0.org>; from gsutter@daemonnews.org on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 02:31:51PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 at 14:31:51 -0800, Gregory Sutter wrote: > On 2001-03-05 12:13 -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 07:15:40PM -0800, Gregory Sutter wrote: > > > > Daemon News now publishes a magazine about BSD, but chances are > > > > you'll never see anything mainstream like Linux Journal or Linux > > > > Magazine simply because FreeBSD isn't a buzz word like Linux :-) > > > > > > Hey, we're working on making it mainstream. The more authors, > > > articles, and subscriptions we have, the better we get. So if > > > you're interested in writing, let me know. If you want to > > > subscribe, you can do so at the Daemon News Mall: > > > > > > http://mall.daemonnews.org/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=880 > > > > > > Jim, I certainly hope _you've_ subscribed... Actually, I don't. I meant to do so after BSDCon when it was announced and whatnot, but forgot about it. I do want a subscription though, so I guess I oughta go sign up :-) > > Oh, come now. You can't tell me that BSDi doesn't have a stack of > > them around the office. :) > > I doubt it, but even if they did, Jim now works for OSDN, so he > wouldn't be allowed in the office to read one. :) (Jim, does the > OSDN office have a couple subscriptions?) Not to my knowledge. The Open Mag folks might be interested in one, as well as Trish and myself though ;-) - jim -- - jim mock - O|S|D|N - open source development network - - http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 6 0:49:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web.etel.ru (web.etel.ru [195.38.32.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E5D37B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:49:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from 007@etel.ru) Received: from Boss ([212.220.44.32]) by web.etel.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA72705 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:49:17 +0500 (YEKT) (envelope-from 007@etel.ru) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:49:17 +0500 (YEKT) Message-ID: <04b901c0a62b$b353ec00$85ba18d5@Boss.ural.org> From: "none" <007@etel.ru> To: "Client" Subject: new MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 8MzB09TJy8/XwdEgxMnLz87UzsHRIMvB0tTBLCDEz9PU1dDOwdEgy8HWxM/N1S4KDfzUzyDQ0sXE zM/Wxc7JxSDExcrT1NfVxdQg9/Pl5+8gMTAgxM7Fyi4KDfDMwdPUycvP18HRIMvB0tTBINrBIDks OTkg0tXCzMXKIC0g3NTPINLFwczYzs8uCg3tyc7JzcHM2M7ZyiDUydLB1iAxMDAwINvU1csuCg3j xc7BINXLwdrBzsEg2sEgzsHMyd7O2cog0sHT3sXULgoN+tfPzsnUxSAoMzQzMikgNTMtOTItMzgu Cg0= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 6 1:38:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from amber.dds.nl (amber.dds.nl [194.109.21.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0C137B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:38:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmits@dds.nl) Received: from feline.dds.nl (feline.dds.nl [194.109.20.19]) by amber.dds.nl (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07792 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:38:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from fatima.dds.nl (msmits@fatima.dds.nl [194.109.20.21]) by feline.dds.nl (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f269cIE10944 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:38:18 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:38:23 +0000 (MET) From: Marc Smits To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: TOC Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Eej dudes, I do not want to be moaning about small things, but the TOC on http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/index.html does not comply with the TOC's of the individual chapters. CU, Marc ------------------------------------------------------------ The Cripple & The Blind site... ...is where your mind gets tuned right +--> http://www.m.smits.scarlet.nl/ <--+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 6 5:32: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B3037B71A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:32:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f26DNbt03912; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:23:38 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:23:34 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Marc Smits Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: TOC Message-ID: <20010306132331.A3301@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from msmits@dds.nl on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:38:23AM +0000 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:38:23AM +0000, Marc Smits wrote: > Eej dudes, >=20 > I do not want to be moaning about small things, but the TOC on > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/index.html > does not comply with the TOC's of the individual chapters. A random sample of http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/introduction.html http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/printing.html http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/sound.html http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mail.html http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kerneldebug.html and http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/index.html disagrees with you. Can you be more specific? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqk5CgACgkQk6gHZCw343WAXwCfaapsAxv45DFHIImWk0w+vn9o i8QAoIr3gHnjxt1wIFQiu9NgfEQe/yS6 =rnI5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 6 12:14:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A7937B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:14:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Carlos15G@aol.com) Received: from Carlos15G@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id n.c5.e8e46b2 (25106) for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:14:08 -0500 (EST) From: Carlos15G@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:14:07 EST Subject: (no subject) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c5.e8e46b2.27d69f0f_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10506 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --part1_c5.e8e46b2.27d69f0f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit where can i download it? --part1_c5.e8e46b2.27d69f0f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit where can i download it? --part1_c5.e8e46b2.27d69f0f_boundary-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 6 13:10:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A7737B71A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f26LA1s02446; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF8837B71B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:06:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from naddy@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 14aOeh-0004nY-01; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:06:03 +0100 Received: (from naddy@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f26KkHC27910; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:46:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy) Message-Id: <200103062046.f26KkHC27910@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:46:17 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Weisgerber Reply-To: naddy@mips.inka.de To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/25574: dump/restore: /dev/rsa -> /dev/sa Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 25574 >Category: docs >Synopsis: dump/restore: /dev/rsa -> /dev/sa >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Mar 06 13:10:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Christian Weisgerber >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT alpha >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD kemoauc.mips.inka.de 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #2: Mon Mar 5 22:50:04 CET 2001 naddy@kemoauc.mips.inka.de:/usr/src/sys/compile/KEMOAUC alpha >Description: dump and restore still reference the tape devices by their old 'r' device names, e.g. "/dev/rsa" instead of "/dev/sa". This concerns both the man pages and the name of the default device. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: dump/dump.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/dump/dump.8,v retrieving revision 1.32 diff -u -r1.32 dump.8 --- dump/dump.8 2001/03/03 11:35:50 1.32 +++ dump/dump.8 2001/03/06 17:33:57 @@ -139,7 +139,7 @@ .Ar file may be a special device file like -.Pa /dev/rsa0 +.Pa /dev/sa0 (a tape drive), .Pa /dev/fd1 (a floppy disk drive), @@ -317,7 +317,7 @@ .It Always start with a level 0 backup, for example: .Bd -literal -offset indent -/sbin/dump -0u -f /dev/nrsa0 /usr/src +/sbin/dump -0u -f /dev/nsa0 /usr/src .Ed .Pp This should be done at set intervals, say once a month or once every two months, @@ -349,7 +349,7 @@ program. .Sh FILES .Bl -tag -width /etc/dumpdates -compact -.It Pa /dev/rsa0 +.It Pa /dev/sa0 default tape unit to dump to .It Pa /etc/dumpdates dump date records Index: dump/pathnames.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/dump/pathnames.h,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 pathnames.h --- dump/pathnames.h 1998/09/22 10:05:17 1.5 +++ dump/pathnames.h 2001/03/06 17:35:25 @@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ #include -#define _PATH_DEFTAPE "/dev/rsa0" +#define _PATH_DEFTAPE "/dev/sa0" #define _PATH_DTMP "/etc/dtmp" #define _PATH_DUMPDATES "/etc/dumpdates" #define _PATH_LOCK "/tmp/dumplockXXXXXX" Index: restore/pathnames.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/restore/pathnames.h,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 pathnames.h --- restore/pathnames.h 1998/09/22 10:05:26 1.3 +++ restore/pathnames.h 2001/03/06 20:27:56 @@ -40,4 +40,4 @@ #include -#define _PATH_DEFTAPE "/dev/rsa0" +#define _PATH_DEFTAPE "/dev/sa0" Index: restore/restore.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/restore/restore.8,v retrieving revision 1.27 diff -u -r1.27 restore.8 --- restore/restore.8 2001/02/13 09:52:50 1.27 +++ restore/restore.8 2001/03/06 20:27:45 @@ -204,7 +204,7 @@ mount /dev/da0s1a /mnt cd /mnt -restore rf /dev/rsa0 +restore rf /dev/sa0 .Ed .Pp Note that @@ -280,7 +280,7 @@ .Ar file may be a special device file like -.Pa /dev/rsa0 +.Pa /dev/sa0 (a tape drive), .Pa /dev/da1c (a disk drive), @@ -413,7 +413,7 @@ .El .Sh FILES .Bl -tag -width "./restoresymtable" -compact -.It Pa /dev/rsa0 +.It Pa /dev/sa0 the default tape drive .It Pa /tmp/rstdir* file containing directories on the tape. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 6 16: 8: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C286937B71E; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:07:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2707tT62376; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:07:57 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:07:54 +0900 Message-ID: <7mitlmphk5.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en Makefile In-Reply-To: <20010301145623.A3225@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200102241031.f1OAVTZ82598@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010225064044.A68105@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010227122027.A2079@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <7mwva9y48r.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20010301145623.A3225@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 1 Mar 2001 14:58:19 GMT, nik wrote: > Way, way, way too late: > > http://www.freebsd.org/news/ > http://www.freebsd.org/news/index.html > http://www.freebsd.org/news/news.html > > and other examples (commercial/, copyright/, docproj/, gallery/, > internal/, projects/, search/, security/). Hmmm, disabling DirectoryIndex is harmful. But I think news.html (in above example) is not required to be installed... (IMHO) > Much, much, much longer term I'd like to consider moving the documentation > off on to its own subdomain, doc.freebsd.org or similar. That's a > sufficiently big project that I don't want to go anywhere near it at the > moment, as we'd just get bogged down. If you want documentations mirrored worldwide, should we use one domain to be mirrored? If we have two domains, management may be complecated. > > We now have good consistency for layout of documents and translated > > ones. We can get English Handbook via /handbook/ and Japanese Handbook > > via /ja/handbook/. > > Is that appropriate for the foreign languages? On the Japanese web > site shouldn't /handbook/ default to the Japanese Handbook? I don't know what method you want to use to achive this. Currently we can access many things only with /ja prefix to the English documents. I like current "relative path" scheme with simple language prefix. > I don't know the answer to this question. I can see the point in having > the same URLs go to identical content on the different language web > sites. But it also makes sense that some URLs are just shortcuts, that > select a particular default. And that on the translated web sites, the > defaults should be for the content in the local language. > > I'd be interested to hear what others think. I have no opinion this should be used or not, but Debian site uses content negotiation for language selection. It seems this can be one of solutions if you want to show translated contents automatically. > We should also periodically monitor the error logs, as people learn and > bookmark the new URLs. Suppose that, right now, .../FAQ/ gets 10,000 > hits a month (I've got no idea what the true figure is). Eventually > that'll drop, as the new URLs become commonplace. We could agree that > when the figure drops to something like 50 hits a month (which could > take a year or more) we replace .../FAQ/ with a message that says "This > content has moved to...". Agreed. (But Wolfram said old URL will be accessed many times after moving away. :-)) -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 6 18:25:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E2E37B71A; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:25:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f272PWN14575; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:25:32 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:25:32 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: audit@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: review request: ifconfig support for wireless card Message-ID: <20010306182532.A14442@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline [Cross-posted message, please trim you're replies as appropriate.] I'd like to request review of a PR I just submitted as: conf/25577: [PATCH] ifconfig support for wireless network cards http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D25577 WARNING: Use the patch at the URL below rather then the one in the PR. As I was typing this message I realized I'd missed a critical suser() check in the an driver. http://www.one-eyed-alien.net/~brooks/FreeBSD/ifconfig.diff I'm also looking for a commiter to work with me to get this committed. This patch provides ifconfig support for wireless network rendering wicontrol and ancontrol unnecessary 99% of the time. By way of example, my /etc/start_if.an0 went from: ancontrol -i an0 -o 1 ancontrol -i an0 -n SSID ancontrol -i an0 -K 1 ancontrol -i an0 -W 1 to: ifconfig an0 ssid SSID wepmode on Support is included for wi and an cards since those are the ones I have and the most modern ones as well. Partial support for awi is also included, but is not ready for commit. These patches are against -current. I'll have tested stable patches in a couple of days once I get an extra laptop shipped from the office. -audit: There should be no issues in ifconfig since it runs unprivileged, but there might be issues in the driver code since I did have to use suser there. In fact, I noticed as I was typing this that I'd screwed it up in the an driver. -doc: This patch contains a patch to the ifconfig man page documenting the new commands. It also contains a new ieee80211.4 man page documenting the new ioctl interface I have added. These are my first significant attempts at man page modification/writing so there are bound to be issues. Let me know what you think. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pZwbXY6L6fI4GtQRAs7pAJoDWt8lb3xzcW7479nXCnBZfhBcIQCeOyxG HZMcLSmTRbvfglFpN+X6enk= =Wcx3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 6 21:39:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net (mtaout.telus.net [199.185.220.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC3437B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:39:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stainsby@telus.net) Received: from telus.net ([216.232.52.82]) by priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20010307053916.FHPF22442.priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net@telus.net> for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:39:16 -0700 Message-ID: <3AA5CAE9.576F0F59@telus.net> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:45:13 -0800 From: Erik Stainsby X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: suggestion for install-guide Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install-guide.html under 2.2.1 The first thing to do is to make sure your hardware is supported by FreeBSD. The list of supported hardware should come in handy here. ;-) It would also be a good idea to make a list of any ``special'' cards you have installed, such as SCSI controllers, ethernet cards, sound cards, etc.. The list should include their IRQs and IO port addresses. I suggest that you add a couple of lines here to the effect of: "Most of these cards come with diagnostic or configuration software (which can be run under DOS/Win32). This software may provide you with the required irq/IO address information." Given that this guide is pitched to be accessible to the *complete* newbie, this level of hand-holding could spare the support lists some noise questions ... $.02 Oh, and great job on the revisions. Much improved. - Erik Stainsby 604-33-14083 System Support Technician Vancouver Public Library eriksta@vpl.vancouver.bc.ca -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 7 3:35:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFD137B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:35:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27AemZ02288; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:40:48 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:40:47 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Dave Tweten Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem Building FreeBSD Documents Message-ID: <20010307104047.A2258@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200103052121.f25LL4691443@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103052121.f25LL4691443@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov>; from tweten@nas.nasa.gov on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:21:03PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:21:03PM -0800, Dave Tweten wrote: > I recently began trying to keep an up-to-date set of FreeBSD documents on= my=20 > machine. So far, I'm not successful. > =3D=3D=3D> en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/design-44bsd > install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 book.ps.gz /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO_8= 859-1/ > books/design-44bsd > eps2png fig1.eps > eps2png:No such file or directory Your eps2png port is out of date. Use a tool like pkg_version periodically to check this. Specifically, you have installed eps2png v1.7. Due to a bug in the install procedure (which I didn't catch in my testing) the first line of the script is=20 #!/opt/bin/perl or similar, which doesn't exist in your system, hence the "No such file or directory" message. Either manually edit ${PREFIX}/bin/eps2png so that the first line is #!/usr/bin/perl or remove the eps2png port, update your ports tree, and install the latest version -- you can tell it's the latest version because it will have a line in it that says PORTREVISION=3D 1 N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqmEC4ACgkQk6gHZCw343XjogCeKQ6GguZT8JMS6aUv9T79UjME SOoAn2ZDryqpF5MUdZuKuO4+T3ysLh4w =Sv5V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 7 3:48:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailrelay1.chek.com (plotnick.chek.com [208.197.227.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBBC637B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:48:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from emanramor@portugalmail.com) Received: (qmail 11700 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2001 11:48:34 -0000 Received: from purina.chek.com (208.197.227.8) by mailrelay1.chek.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 11:48:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 28357 invoked by uid 99); 7 Mar 2001 11:39:44 -0000 Date: 7 Mar 2001 11:39:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20010307113944.28356.qmail@purina.chek.com> From: "Emanuel Moreira" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org X-MASSMAIL: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [193.137.173.132] Subject: Freebsd FTP Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I can't access the FTP server, it always gives an error. Why is it? Is it down? If you can please send me a copy in doc extension. Thanks, Emanuel Moreira _____________________________________________________________ O e-mail preferido dos portugueses http://www.portugalmail.pt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 7 14:15:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A93237B719; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:15:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dannyboy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dannyboy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27MFoW60361; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:15:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dannyboy) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:15:50 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103072215.f27MFoW60361@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dannyboy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, keichii@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/25417: Broken link on page http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/x8414.html Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Broken link on page http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/x8414.html Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keichii Responsible-Changed-By: dannyboy Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Mar 7 14:14:28 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll let gnats bug you for me on this PR... http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25417 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 7 18:25:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server3.safepages.com (server3.safepages.com [216.127.146.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C42A37B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:25:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from term_life_insurance2001@yahoo.com) Received: from dana2 (1Cust107.tnt3.monroe.nc.da.uu.net [63.26.203.107]) by server3.safepages.com (Postfix) with SMTP id F1E8223678 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:25:31 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: term_life_insurance2001@yahoo.com From: "Tina Massey" To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Insurance Insider Reveals Secrets! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:34:07 -0500 Message-Id: <20010308022532.F1E8223678@server3.safepages.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org
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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 7 19:10:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C798237B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f283A2K03319; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C65C37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:05:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from spike.unixfreak.org (spike [192.168.2.4]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2077C3E09 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dima@localhost) by spike.unixfreak.org (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f28356S07116; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:05:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima) Message-Id: <200103080305.f28356S07116@spike.unixfreak.org> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:05:06 -0800 (PST) From: dima@unixfreak.org Reply-To: dima@unixfreak.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/25599: [PATCH] New FAQ entry: describe sysinstall security profiles Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 25599 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] New FAQ entry: describe sysinstall security profiles >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 07 19:10:02 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dima Dorfman >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-20010225-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Private >Environment: System: FreeBSD spike.unixfreak.org 5.0-20010225-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-20010225-CURRENT #9: Sun Feb 25 22:49:27 PST 2001 dima@spike.unixfreak.org:/c/home/dima/w/f/src/sys/compile/SPIKE i386 >Description: Since security profiles were introduced in sysinstall, two things happened. First, a lot of people started having problems installing kernels, et cetera because the High and Extreme security profiles raised securelevel. Second, a lot of people wanted to know exactly what those security profiles do. The first problem has pretty much been dealt with by appropriate additions to the FAQ. The second problem remains. The patch below adds another FAQ entry describing the different security profiles to the Installation chapter. >How-To-Repeat: Read -questions. >Fix: Apply the following to doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml: Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.147 diff -u -r1.147 book.sgml --- book.sgml 2001/02/28 22:47:51 1.147 +++ book.sgml 2001/03/08 03:00:41 @@ -2421,6 +2421,170 @@ + + + + What are these security profiles? + + + + A security profile is a set of configuration + options that attempts to achieve the desired ratio of security + to convenience by enabling and disabling certain programs and + other settings. The more severe the security profile, the less + programs will be enabled by default; this is one of the basic + principles of security: do not run anything except what you + must. + + Please note that the security profile is just a default + setting. All programs can be enabled and disabled after you've + installed FreeBSD by editing or adding the appropriate line(s) + to /etc/rc.conf. For more information on + the latter, please see the &man.rc.conf.5; manual page. + + Following is a table that describes what each security + profile does. The columns are the choices you have for a + security profile, and the rows are the program or feature that + is enabled or disabled. + + + Possible security profiles + + + + + + + Extreme + + High + + Moderate + + Low + + + + + + &man.inetd.8; + + NO + + NO + + YES + + YES + + + + &man.sendmail.8; + + NO + + YES + + YES + + YES + + + + &man.sshd.8; + + NO + + YES + + YES + + YES + + + + &man.portmap.8; + + NO + + NO + + [1] + + YES + + + + NFS server + + NO + + NO + + YES + + YES + + + + man.securelevel.XXX + + YES (2) [2] + + YES (1) [2] + + NO + + NO + + + +
+ + Notes: + + + + + The portmapper is enabled if the machine has been + configured as an NFS client or server earlier in the + installation. + + + + If you choose a security profile that sets the + securelevel (Extreme or High), you must be aware of the + implications. Please read the &man.init.8; manual page + and pay particular attention to the meanings of the + security levels, or you may have significant trouble + later! + + + + + + + The security profile is not a silver bullet! Setting + it high does not mean you do have to keep up with security + issues by reading an appropriate mailing + list, using good passwords and passphrases, and + generally adhering to good security practices. It simply + sets up the desired security to convenience ration out of + the box. + + + + The security profile mechanism is meant to be used + when you first install FreeBSD. If you already have + FreeBSD installed, it would probably be more beneficial to + simply enable or disable the desired functionality. If + you really want to use a security profile, you can re-run + &man.sysinstall.8; to set it. + + + + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 8 1:21:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BA337B71B for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:21:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f289LLl57634; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:21:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAADD37B71C for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:18:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@rfx-216-196-73-168.users.reflexcom.com) Received: from rfx-216-196-73-168.users.reflexcom.com ([216.196.73.168]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:16:54 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by rfx-216-196-73-168.users.reflexcom.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f289Io833999; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:18:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Message-Id: <200103080918.f289Io833999@rfx-216-196-73-168.users.reflexcom.com> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:18:50 -0800 (PST) From: cjclark@reflexnet.com Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/25606: Incorrect Email Lists on Website Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 25606 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Incorrect Email Lists on Website >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 08 01:21:21 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Crist J. Clark >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html >Description: There is incorrect information about mailling lists on the FreeBSD webpages. I noticed this after trying to join a list given on the webpages that does not actually exist, freebsd-commit. After a quick look, the only list mentioned that does not exist appears to be 'freebsd-cvs-all-digest,' but the 'cvs-all' entry looks kind of strange (what's that '/usr/src' doing there?). There are quite a number of lists that are not mentioned on the page, but that is not as severe of an issue and is probably to be expected. >How-To-Repeat: Point your favorite browswer to, http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html And then send a mail to majordomo@freebsd.org containing only the line 'lists' to get the actual list of lists. >Fix: Sorry, don't track the doc tree. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 8 8: 7: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB8D37B718; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:07:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keichii@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from keichii@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f28G77612076; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:07:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keichii) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:07:07 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103081607.f28G77612076@freefall.freebsd.org> To: keichii@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, keichii@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/25574: dump/restore: /dev/rsa -> /dev/sa Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: dump/restore: /dev/rsa -> /dev/sa Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keichii Responsible-Changed-By: keichii Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Mar 8 08:06:40 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: I will do this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25574 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 8 8: 7:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B9B37B725; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:07:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keichii@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from keichii@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f28G7ZR12190; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:07:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keichii) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:07:35 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103081607.f28G7ZR12190@freefall.freebsd.org> To: keichii@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, keichii@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/25599: [PATCH] New FAQ entry: describe sysinstall security profiles Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] New FAQ entry: describe sysinstall security profiles Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keichii Responsible-Changed-By: keichii Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Mar 8 08:07:17 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: I will do this http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25599 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 8 8: 8:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4E737B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:08:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keichii@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from keichii@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f28G8CD12565; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:08:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keichii) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:08:12 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103081608.f28G8CD12565@freefall.freebsd.org> To: keichii@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, keichii@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/25606: Incorrect Email Lists on Website Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Incorrect Email Lists on Website Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keichii Responsible-Changed-By: keichii Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Mar 8 08:07:43 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: I will do this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25606 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 8 12:43:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.exodus.net (smtp04.exodus.net [216.34.163.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607B837B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:43:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sam.ghalyoun@exodus.net) Received: from scl4mlpop01.exodus.net (exopop01.exodus.net [64.41.222.11]) by smtp.exodus.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f28Kc9s13397 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:38:09 -0600 Received: by exopop01.exodus.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:31:01 -0800 Message-ID: From: Sam Ghalyoun To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: VRRP Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:30:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do you have any idea where I can find documentation on VRRP, which is similar to HSRP Virtual Redundant Router Protocol? This is implemented on Nokia firewalls, which are FreeBSD based. And is also a known Solaris implementation. 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 9 7:15: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A234037B719; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:15:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f29FF5i13101; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:15:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:15:05 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103091515.f29FF5i13101@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/25626: typo in getsid.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typo in getsid.2 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Fri Mar 9 07:14:37 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25626 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 9 10:57:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE7237B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:57:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f29Irdd84432 for doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:53:39 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:53:39 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: TODO list Message-ID: <20010309185339.A83277@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/04w6evG8XlLl3ft" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not a complete list of things to do to the docs by any means, but I thought I'd share my doc/ TODO list with you all. These aren't ordered in any special way. I promise not to be offended if someone decides that they want to do one of these :-) * Write more of it. * Think up a cool documentation project slogan; "We wrote it, so please read it"? * Break up the Handbook into smaller handbooks. * Reorganise the FAQ. * Bring the FDP Primer up to date with the latest changes. * Get indexing working properly. * Supplement the ASCII art in the FAQ, Handbook, and other documents with proper images. Retain the ASCII art for those people that can't view images. * Investigate XML, XSL, and XSLT, and work out how hard it would be to=20 support them in the docs. This may also involve pushing XML support in the base system (config files, et al). * Investigate passiveTeX as a way of producing PDF. See http://users.ox.ac.uk/~rahtz/passivetex/ for details. * Assist with reorganising and restructuring the web site. * Put together a docbook.css file that doesn't look like a throwback to the sixties. * Get Ruslan, or one of the others, to write a section for the primer about manual pages. * Work out how to incrementally move manual pages to DocBook. Stumbling block is efficiently going from DocBook to *roff. * Get more reliable conspectus writers. * Look at OMF (http://www.ibiblio.org/osrt/omf/faq.html) in more detail, and investigate the ScrollKeeper project (see SourceForge). --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqpJrEACgkQk6gHZCw343Vl1QCcDPs1983J5BMYPE84HlVWcczH 2DgAniBJc0x2dXlB+n8oguSXXxmksmeY =rajI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 9 12:29:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6443837B71A; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:29:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.calldei.com) Received: from holly.calldei.com ([208.191.149.190]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G9Y00EBQ5EL1B@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:11:09 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.calldei.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f29KBZO40435; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:11:35 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:10:14 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: TODO list In-reply-to: <20010309185339.A83277@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 06:53:39PM +0000 To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <20010309141014.D31751@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <20010309185339.A83277@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, March 09, 2001, Nik Clayton wrote: > * Reorganise the FAQ. I'm supposed to be doing this, and after a month or so of inactivity, I'm again back at it. If only real life weren't so darned intrusive I'd be a lot closer to being finished by now... When I have a significant update, it'll be up at http://people.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ (and most of it is up there already). -- +-------------------+-------------------------------+ | Chris Costello | Those who can, do. | | chris@calldei.com | Those who cannot, teach. | | | Those who cannot teach, HACK! | +-------------------+-------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 9 12:50:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from b05.egroups.com (b05.egroups.com [208.50.144.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8332637B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:50:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sentto-2911364-1-984171045-doc=freebsd.org@returns.onelist.com) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-2911364-1-984171045-doc=freebsd.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.56] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2001 20:50:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 33714 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2001 20:50:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Mar 2001 20:50:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fk.egroups.com) (10.1.10.47) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 20:50:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: hhp8080@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.56] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2001 20:50:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: hhp8080@yahoo.com via web; 09 Mar 2001 20:50:42 -0000 X-Sender: hhp8080@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: HipHopProductions@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 9 Mar 2001 20:47:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 36116 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2001 20:47:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Mar 2001 20:47:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13107.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.174.152) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 20:47:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20010309204749.50184.qmail@web13107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.252.105.135] by web13107.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 12:47:49 PST To: HipHopProductions@yahoogroups.com From: HHP Moderator MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list HipHopProductions@yahoogroups.com; contact HipHopProductions-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list HipHopProductions@yahoogroups.com List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:47:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HipHopProductions] HHP Newsletter #1 Vol. 1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-149798315-984170869=:49796" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0-149798315-984170869=:49796 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Welcome to the beginning of a movement in music enlightenment!! Jasmine Lee - Our first Featured Artist. She hails from Brooklyn, New York, bringing a new flavor into the watered down R&B today. With such influences as Ella Fitzgerald and Minnie Riperton, Jasmine has formed her own self-proclaimed style called "Space Jazz". Along the lines of such acclaimed artists as Amel Larrieux and Jill Scott, Jasmine brings a home grown flavor to her music, along with a new school type hip hop vibe. This is a must listen for all, from Hip Hop head to Jazz enthusiast. Her Debut CD "Destination Venus" is available for your listening pleasure in MP3 format on her page http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/68/jasmine_lee.html On the Page you will find Free MP3z to download, listen to, and enjoy. Click Lo-fi for a quick listen. http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/68/jasmine_lee.html Woo Child - Representing the Midwest by way of Flint, Michigan, this Emcee rips the mic with a tenacity unmatched in the game today. 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Jasmine Lee - Our first Featured Artist.  She hails from Brooklyn, New York, bringing a new flavor into the watered down R&B today.  With such influences as Ella Fitzgerald and Minnie Riperton, Jasmine has formed her own self-proclaimed style called "Space Jazz".  Along the lines of such acclaimed artists as Amel Larrieux and Jill Scott, Jasmine brings a home grown flavor to her music, along with a new school type hip hop vibe.  This is a must listen for all, from Hip Hop head to Jazz enthusiast.  Her Debut CD "Destination Venus" is available for your listening pleasure in MP3 format on her page http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/68/jasmine_lee.html On the Page you will find Free MP3z to download, listen to, and enjoy.  Click Lo-fi for a quick listen.

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/68/jasmine_lee.html

 

Woo Child - Representing the Midwest by way of Flint, Michigan, this Emcee rips the mic with a tenacity unmatched in the game today.  True underground skill with Production liking that of industry standouts Swiss Beats and Timberland.  But Don't get this skilled lyricist confused with mainstream cornyness, this cat has TRUE SKILL!  One of the most successful MP3.com Artists combining rapid flow with witty word-play you have a complete emcee found in Woo Child.  This isn't your average hip hop Thug shoot'em up bling bling garbage you're acustomed to from the radio, so I encourage ALL listeners to check this talented Emcee.  It gets SICK so make sure you have all your shots!!!  check Woo Child rip mics to pieces at his site http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/74/woo_child.html On the site you'll find Free MP3z to download for your listening pleasure from his Debut CD "Double U Double Oh".  Lo-fi for a quick listen.

 

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--0-149798315-984170869=:49796-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 9 15:36:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from peorth.iteration.net (peorth.iteration.net [208.190.180.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341A137B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:36:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keichii@peorth.iteration.net) Received: by peorth.iteration.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8E085595B1; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:36:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:36:43 -0600 From: "Michael C . Wu" To: Sam Ghalyoun Cc: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: VRRP Message-ID: <20010309173643.C24830@peorth.iteration.net> Reply-To: "Michael C . Wu" Mail-Followup-To: "Michael C . Wu" , Sam Ghalyoun , "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sam.ghalyoun@exodus.net on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 12:30:59PM -0800 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5025 F691 F943 8128 48A8 5025 77CE 29C5 8FA1 2E20 X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x8FA12E20 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 12:30:59PM -0800, Sam Ghalyoun scribbled: | Do you have any idea where I can find documentation on VRRP, which is | similar to HSRP Virtual Redundant Router Protocol? | | This is implemented on Nokia firewalls, which are FreeBSD based. And is also | a known Solaris implementation. VRRP is an "RFC" protocol. So Please look for its RFC's at your favorite RFC search engines. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@iteration.net | keichii@freebsd.org | | http://iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 10 2: 0: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A9637B71B for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2AA02h84222; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (bremen.shuttle.de [194.95.249.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F21C37B71A for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:51:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: by bremen.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 0B83F17D54; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:51:14 +0100 (CET) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2A92eI02595; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:02:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from schweikh) Message-Id: <200103100902.f2A92eI02595@hal9000.schweikhardt.net> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:02:40 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Schweikhardt Reply-To: schweikh@schweikhardt.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/25648: typos in some manpages (dependant) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 25648 >Category: docs >Synopsis: typos in some manpages (dependant) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Mar 10 02:00:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jens Schweikhardt >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: An Open Pod Bay Door >Environment: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 >Description: dependant should read dependent. >How-To-Repeat: $ find /usr/share/man/man* -name '*.gz' | xargs zegrep -in dependant /usr/share/man/man5/named.conf.5.gz:1060:is order dependant. /usr/share/man/man7/hier.7.gz:555:architecture independant files. /usr/share/man/man8/wlconfig.8.gz:56:independantly whilse occupying the same airspace. /usr/share/man/man9/device_set_flags.9.gz:47:Each device supports a set of driver-dependant flags which are often /usr/share/man/man9/device_get_flags.9.gz:47:Each device supports a set of driver-dependant flags which are often >Fix: The following should fix the man page source files in-place: perl -pi -e 's/dependant/dependent/g' \ /usr/src/contrib/bind/doc/man/named.conf.5 \ /usr/src/share/man/man7/hier.7 \ /usr/src/usr.sbin/wlconfig/wlconfig.8 \ /usr/src/share/man/man9/device_set_flags.9 \ /usr/src/share/man/man9/device_get_flags.9 Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 10 2: 0:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E519F37B71A for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2AA01L84213; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (bremen.shuttle.de [194.95.249.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39DB37B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:51:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: by bremen.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id CEE8317D35; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:51:14 +0100 (CET) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2A87uo01109; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:07:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from schweikh) Message-Id: <200103100807.f2A87uo01109@hal9000.schweikhardt.net> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:07:56 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Schweikhardt Reply-To: schweikh@schweikhardt.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/25647: Handbook, Loader Program Flow, missing 'not' leads to bogus logic. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 25647 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook, Loader Program Flow, missing 'not' leads to bogus logic. >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Mar 10 02:00:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jens Schweikhardt >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: An Open Pod Bay Door >Environment: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 >Description: Section 5.3.1. Loader Program Flow reads: Finally, by default, the loader issues a 10 second wait for keypresses, and boots the kernel if it is interrupted. If interrupted, the user is presented with a prompt which understands the easy-to-use command set, where the user may adjust variables, unload all modules, load modules, and then finally boot or reboot. >How-To-Repeat: RTFH :-) file:/usr/share/doc/handbook/boot-loader.html >Fix: I think there's a "not" missing here and it should read Finally, by default, the loader issues a 10 second wait for keypresses, and boots the kernel if it is not interrupted. ... ^^^ Or maybe s/if it is not/unless/ Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 10 4:22:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.borahome.net (smtp1.borahome.com [203.248.241.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7882C37B72B for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 04:22:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gamemeca@pyunji.net) Received: from localhost ([210.108.206.148]) by smtp1.borahome.net (8.10.0.Beta6/8.10.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id f2ACNCQ21303 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:23:13 +0900 (KST) Message-Id: <200103101223.f2ACNCQ21303@smtp1.borahome.net> X-Sender: gamemeca@pyunji.net From: ddedon To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:26:37 +0900 Subject: Ãßõ ¸±·¹ÀÌÀÔ´Ï´Ù MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ¿ì¼± ¸ÕÀú ÀÌ·¸°Ô ºÒ¾¦ ¸ÞÀÏÀ» º¸³»°Ô µÇ¾î¼­ Á¤¸»·Î Á˼ÛÇÕ´Ï´Ù. 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Ç×»ó ¿©·¯ºÐ¿¡°Ô ÁÁÀº Àϸ¸ °¡µæÇÏ±æ ºô¾î¿ä!! ¿ì¸® ¸ðµÎ ÇÔ²² µ· ¸¶´Ï¸¶´Ï ¹ú¾î¿©!! ¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¦¬¢Ý ¡¡ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 10 8:10: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689E637B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2AGA1c33509; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from type49.com (type49.com [195.26.32.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EE137B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:07:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@type49.com) Received: by type49.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0C89D1AD2; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:07:07 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <20010310160707.0C89D1AD2@type49.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:07:07 +0000 (GMT) From: mark@type49.com Reply-To: mark@type49.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/25656: New FAQ entry for 'toor' account (PATCH) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 25656 >Category: docs >Synopsis: New FAQ entry for 'toor' account (PATCH) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Mar 10 08:10:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: mark drayton >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD type49.com 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Tue Feb 13 13:43:54 GMT 2001 root@type49.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >Description: New FAQ entry to answer "what's this 'toor' account?" >How-To-Repeat: Read -questions. >Fix: *** /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Thu Mar 8 11:01:25 2001 --- book.sgml Sat Mar 10 15:35:17 2001 *************** *** 6263,6268 **** --- 6263,6297 ---- + + What's this UID 0 'toor' account? Have I been compromised? + + + + Don't worry. toor is an 'alternative' root account + (toor is root spelt backwards). Previously it was created + when the bash shell was installed but recently it has been + created by default. It was installed with bash so you + could use the bash shell as a root user, without changing + the real root user's default shell. This is important as + bash would likely be installed in /usr/local/bin + which, by default, resides on a different disk + partition. If root's shell is set to + /usr/local/bin/bash and /usr + is unmountable for some reason, root won't be able to log in + to fix the problem (although if you reboot into single user + mode you'll be prompted for the path to a shell). + + Some people use toor for day-to-day root tasks with the bash + shell, leaving root (with /bin/csh or /bin/sh) for single + user mode or emergencies. By default you can't log in using + toor as it doesn't have a password, so log in as root and + set a password for toor: &prompt.root; passwd toor + then log out and try logging in as toor. + + + + Eek! I forgot the root password! >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 10 8:50:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC1C37B71A for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2AGo3M37088; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDB037B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:47:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@idiom.com) Received: (from rdm@localhost) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA19002 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:47:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103101647.IAA19002@idiom.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:47:32 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Morin To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/25657: no netid(5) man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 25657 >Category: docs >Synopsis: no netid(5) man page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Mar 10 08:50:03 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rich Morin >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Canta Forda Computer Laboratory >Environment: FreeBSD fb42.cfcl.com 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Nov 20 13:02:55 GMT 2000 jkh@bento.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: The mknetid(8) man page says: "Mknetid processes the contents of the group(5), passwd(5), hosts(5) and netid(5) files ..." yet there is no netid(5) man page. >How-To-Repeat: man 5 netid >Fix: Write a man page for netid? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: GRUMP! Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost) by cfcl.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2A9NTF86550; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:25:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MAILER-DAEMON) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:25:05 -0800 (PST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Message-Id: <200103100925.f2A9NTF86550@cfcl.com> To: rdm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="f2A9NTF86550.984216305/cfcl.com" Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (warning-timeout) X-UIDL: 821433e61e7cf69fe68ba096cd36981e ********************************************** ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** ********************************************** The original message was received at Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:03:53 -0800 (PST) from rdm@localhost ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to hub.freebsd.org.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [24.221.169.54] FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org... Deferred: 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [24.221.169.54] Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old Reporting-MTA: dns; cfcl.com Arrival-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:03:53 -0800 (PST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Action: delayed Status: 4.2.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; hub.freebsd.org Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [24.221.169.54] Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:25:01 -0800 (PST) Will-Retry-Until: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:03:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from rdm@localhost) by cfcl.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2A53rj82717; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:03:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:03:53 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Morin Message-Id: <200103100503.f2A53rj82717@cfcl.com> To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: no netid(5) man page Reply-To: rdm X-send-pr-version: 3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 10 12:34:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fl.egroups.com (fl.egroups.com [64.211.240.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3BA937B71F for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:34:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sentto-2911364-2-984256464-doc=freebsd.org@returns.onelist.com) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-2911364-2-984256464-doc=freebsd.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.55] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2001 20:34:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 10314 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2001 20:33:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Mar 2001 20:33:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ef.egroups.com) (10.1.2.111) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Mar 2001 20:33:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: notify@yahoogroups.com Received: from [10.1.10.110] by ef.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2001 20:33:06 -0000 Message-ID: <984256380.251.41424.f2@yahoogroups.com> X-eGroups-Application: poll From: HipHopProductions@yahoogroups.com To: HipHopProductions@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list HipHopProductions@yahoogroups.com; contact HipHopProductions-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list HipHopProductions@yahoogroups.com List-Unsubscribe: Date: 10 Mar 2001 20:33:00 -0000 Subject: [HipHopProductions] New poll for HipHopProductions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 10 15:18: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (femail3.rdc1.on.home.com [24.2.9.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C66F37B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:18:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bradleywatts@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.68.123.209]) by femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010310231732.FSFN6398.femail3.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:17:32 -0800 Message-ID: <3AAAB4EF.FFB97775@home.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:12:47 -0500 From: Bradley Watts X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: IRC Client [ircatlite-2000.03.08] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi There. I'm attempting to connect to a popular IRC Server [anarchy.tamu.edu] with the ircatlite-2000.03.08 IRC Client that I downloaded from the ports. Upon connecting, I am unable to do anything with my session. I trussed the process and see the following error: read(0x5,0xbfbff7cc,0x40) ERR#35 'Resource temporarily unavailable' gettimeofday(0xbfbff904,0x0) = 0 (0x0) writev(0xc,0xbfbffac4,0x1) = 32 (0x20) read(0xc,0x85fc008,0x1000) = 976 (0x3d0) mmap(0x0,32768,0x3,0x1002,-1,0x0) = 696631296 (0x2985c000) read(0xb,0x2985cc18,0x6938) = 8192 (0x2000) read(0xa,0x8633008,0x1000) = 76 (0x4c) Any ideas? Thanks.... 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 10 18: 9: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B473637B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net) Received: from mark9 (hutch-418.hutchtel.net [209.105.45.146]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA24109; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:08:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <006001c0aa99$69d5a060$6100000a@vladsempire.net> From: "Josh Paetzel" To: "Bradley Watts" , References: <3AAAB4EF.FFB97775@home.com> Subject: Re: IRC Client [ircatlite-2000.03.08] Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:08:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bradley Watts" To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 5:12 PM Subject: IRC Client [ircatlite-2000.03.08] > Hi There. I'm attempting to connect to a popular IRC Server > [anarchy.tamu.edu] with the ircatlite-2000.03.08 IRC Client that I > downloaded from the ports. Upon connecting, I am unable to do anything > with my session. I trussed the process and see the following error: > > read(0x5,0xbfbff7cc,0x40) ERR#35 'Resource > temporarily unavailable' > gettimeofday(0xbfbff904,0x0) = 0 (0x0) > writev(0xc,0xbfbffac4,0x1) = 32 (0x20) > read(0xc,0x85fc008,0x1000) = 976 (0x3d0) > mmap(0x0,32768,0x3,0x1002,-1,0x0) = 696631296 > (0x2985c000) > read(0xb,0x2985cc18,0x6938) = 8192 (0x2000) > read(0xa,0x8633008,0x1000) = 76 (0x4c) > > Any ideas? > > Thanks.... > Brad > > Try another client. Josh > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 10 18:28: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F319137B719; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:28:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2B2S2K24993; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:28:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:28:02 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: developers@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: hiphop squashed Message-ID: X-All-Your-Base: are belong to us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The HipHipProductions emails should not bother -doc or -current any longer. I had to make y!groups send an auth email to doc in order to grab it and associate it with my Y!ID to prevent further mailings. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message