From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 25 0:10: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B65037B71A for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2P8A2j69883; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F1E37B71A for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:09:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Received: from cfcl.com (cpe-24-221-169-54.ca.sprintbbd.net [24.221.169.54]) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA11741 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rdm@localhost) by cfcl.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2P8AMe43170; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:10:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm) Message-Id: <200103250810.f2P8AMe43170@cfcl.com> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:10:22 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Morin Reply-To: rdm@cfcl.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/26065: assorted broken "SEE ALSO" references Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26065 >Category: docs >Synopsis: assorted broken "SEE ALSO" references >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Mar 25 00:10:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rich Morin >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Canta Forda Computer Laboratory >Environment: FreeBSD fb42.cfcl.com 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Nov 20 13:02:55 GMT 2000 jkh@bento.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: A number of SEE ALSO references point to nonexistent pages. In some cases, I have been able to supply a hint. Here, in any event, is the list: Referencing page Referenced page Hint ================ =============== ==== clear(1) termcap(3) termcap(5) grog(1) doctype(1) grohtml(1) afmtodit(1) ipresend(1) snoop(1m) ipresend(1) tcpdump(8) tcpdump(1) ipresend(1) etherfind(8c) k5init(1) krb5.conf(5) krb.conf(5) mcon(1) X(1) openssl(1) asn1parse(1) openssl(1) ca(1) openssl(1) config(5) openssl(1) crl(1) openssl(1) crl2pkcs7(1) openssl(1) dgst(1) openssl(1) dhparam(1) openssl(1) dsa(1) openssl(1) dsaparam(1) openssl(1) enc(1) openssl(1) gendsa(1) openssl(1) genrsa(1) openssl(1) nseq(1) perlipc(1) IO::Socket(3) perlipc(1) Socket(3) tput(1) termcap(3) termcap(5) sched_get_priority_max(2) sched_get_scheduler(2) sched_getscheduler(2) sched_get_priority_min(2) sched_get_scheduler(2) sched_getscheduler(2) sched_rr_get_interval(2) sched_get_scheduler(2) sched_getscheduler(2) kvm_nlist(3) kldsym(2) readline(3) bash(1) not installed tf_close(3) krb(3) krb_mk_req(3) tf_get_pname(3) krb(3) tf_get_pinst(3) krb(3) tf_get_cred(3) krb(3) tf_init(3) krb(3) tf_util(3) krb(3) daic(4) isdnctl(1) dhcp-options(5) dhcpd.conf(5) dhcp-options(5) dhcpd.leases(5) krb(5) krb_equiv(3) krb.equiv(5) chat(8) uucico(1) uucico(8) hpropd(8) hprop(8) ntptime(8) ntp_adjtime(2) adjtime(2) ntptime(8) ntp_gettime(2) clock_gettime(2) rtquery(8) gated(8) ssl(8) asn1parse(1) ssl(8) ca(1) ssl(8) config(5) ssl(8) crl(1) ssl(8) crl2pkcs7(1) ssl(8) dgst(1) ssl(8) dhparam(1) ssl(8) dsa(1) ssl(8) dsaparam(1) ssl(8) enc(1) ssl(8) gendsa(1) ssl(8) genrsa(1) ssl(8) nseq(1) BUS_SETUP_INTR(9) BUS_TEARDOWN_INTR(9) VFS_UNMOUNT(9) vflush(9) VOP_LOOKUP(9) VOP_ABORTOP(9) boot(9) at_shutdown(9) boot(9) vfs_unmountall(9) cpu_switch(9) issignal(9) mi_switch(9) issignal(9) Also, a minor nit - The whatis(1) entry for k_hasafs(3) is broken. >How-To-Repeat: Run whatis(1) on the referenced pages and see what comes up. >Fix: The references will have to be analyzed and fixed on a case- by-case basis. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 25 1:44:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F161C37B71D; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:44:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2P9i9s77477; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:44:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpp) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:44:09 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103250944.f2P9i9s77477@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, mpp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/26065: assorted broken "SEE ALSO" references Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: assorted broken "SEE ALSO" references Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->mpp Responsible-Changed-By: mpp Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Mar 25 01:43:39 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll handle this one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26065 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 25 5:12:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from out-mta3.plasa.com (out-mta3.plasa.com [202.134.0.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA4937B719 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 05:12:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tjahyono@telkom.net) Received: out-mta3.plasa.com; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:07:39 +0700 Received: from [192.168.19.56] (account ) by mail.plasa.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 3.3.1) with HTTP id 426320 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:12:41 +0700 From: "Cahyono-Budi" Subject: subscribe To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.3.1 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:12:41 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 25 11:50: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8699237B719 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2PJo1642856; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [204.97.17.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727AC37B718 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:48:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trevor@jpj.net) Received: from localhost (trevor@localhost) by blues.jpj.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2PJmND02425 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:48:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20010325143708.X16461-100000@blues.jpj.net> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:48:23 -0500 (EST) From: Trevor Johnson To: Subject: docs/26081: patch to synchronize list of staff in Handbook with CVSROOT/access Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26081 >Category: docs >Synopsis: patch to synchronize list of staff in Handbook with CVSROOT/access >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Mar 25 11:50:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Trevor Johnson (trevor@freebsd.org) >Release: 4-STABLE >Organization: myself >Environment: N/A >Description: The list of committers in the Handbook is incorrect. >How-To-Repeat: Compare the contents of CVSROOT/access to the staff-committers section. >Fix: http://people.freebsd.org/~trevor/doc/staff.diff >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 25 11:52:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D51B37B71A; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:52:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id VAA18823; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:52:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA01349; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:48:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:48:43 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Rich Morin Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: web site navigation issues Message-ID: <20010325214843.A1290@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from rdm@cfcl.com on Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 08:43:17PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-03-24 20:43:17 -0800, Rich Morin wrote: > While I'm on the subject, I'd like to suggest that the servers be > set up so that "freebsd.org" can be used as browser shorthand for > "www.freebsd.org"; currently, this just hangs... freebsd.org is a host alias for hub.freebsd.org for a long time. The web server on hub should redirect any request from external users to www.freebsd.org I don't know why it just hangs, I will check it. Thanks for the hint, -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 25 12:39: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA6637B719 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 12:38:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.calldei.com) Received: from holly.calldei.com ([208.191.149.190]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0GAR00GZMT86WD@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:36:07 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.calldei.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f2PKZ9n93172 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:35:09 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:34:57 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: FAQ reorganization To: doc@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <20010325143457.B80466@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've (finally) put together a tarball of the first stage of the FAQ reorganization (sticking each chapter in its own file). How does this structure look to you all? Is it ready to go into the tree? http://people.FreeBSD.org/~chris/faq/ -- +-------------------+----------------------------------+ | Chris Costello | Drive defensively -- buy a tank. | | chris@calldei.com | | +-------------------+----------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 25 13:49: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF00637B718 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:48:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 14946 invoked by uid 10); 25 Mar 2001 21:48:45 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f2PLesq44233; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:40:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ue) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:40:54 +0200 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: Chris Costello Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FAQ reorganization Message-ID: <20010325234054.C31676@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Costello , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20010325143457.B80466@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010325143457.B80466@holly.calldei.com>; from chris@calldei.com on Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 02:34:57PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 02:34:57PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > I've (finally) put together a tarball of the first stage of > the FAQ reorganization (sticking each chapter in its own file). Just one quick question: Why did you put preface.sgml into the main directory instead of additional directory preface? > How does this structure look to you all? Good, except the preface thing. And you're already 7 revisions behind the current FAQ ;-) > Is it ready to go into the tree? Maybe. But the important fact is that the tree is not ready for it: ue@nathan$ uname -sr FreeBSD 4.3-RC ^^ You should the additional 21 days and import it once the release has been rolled. You should definitely talk to Jordan (the release engineer) before the import. Making a big change like this just before the release is asking for trouble. After all, Murphy was an optimist. IMHO, of course. /s/Udo --=20 "I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure." -- Aliens II --FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQCVAwUBOr5l5kPoh1XnT6hxAQEEwwQAsUmq/qy2GqoIBhsywodS7vjOGEWshIGC qI4b+Baon1OTbZePvEmtL5gLkBKjAvJWN75t2RrDa0I/OdxsrrviiSYxFWybMifc 1NT0o893c4QGyisn122tb1S7CWm+9hVCPh6kaPKo9KFgzoxCQN0KLCdz5dHWXyue Ghuh+pnLvwk= =lFBN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 25 15:53:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1613337B71A for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:53:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.calldei.com) Received: from holly.calldei.com ([208.191.149.190]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0GAS0057828SGN@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:50:52 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.calldei.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f2PNnrs93442; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:49:53 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:49:43 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: FAQ reorganization In-reply-to: <20010325234054.C31676@nathan.ruhr.de>; from ue@nathan.ruhr.de on Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 11:40:54PM +0200 To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <20010325174943.C80466@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <20010325143457.B80466@holly.calldei.com> <20010325234054.C31676@nathan.ruhr.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, March 25, 2001, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > Good, except the preface thing. And you're already 7 revisions behind the > current FAQ ;-) Okay, that can go into its own directory, too. > > Is it ready to go into the tree? > > Maybe. But the important fact is that the tree is not ready for it: > > ue@nathan$ uname -sr > FreeBSD 4.3-RC > ^^ Didn't ask whether the tree was ready for it. I know the release is coming, but I was interested in whether it was "good enough", not "the right time". :) -- +-------------------+-------------------------------------------------------+ | Chris Costello | Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk? | | chris@calldei.com | | +-------------------+-------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 25 15:58:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5E837B719 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:58:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.calldei.com) Received: from holly.calldei.com ([208.191.149.190]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0GAS0085Q2IKLF@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:56:44 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.calldei.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f2PNtjj93516; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:55:45 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:55:39 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: FAQ reorganization In-reply-to: <20010325234054.C31676@nathan.ruhr.de>; from ue@nathan.ruhr.de on Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 11:40:54PM +0200 To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <20010325175539.D80466@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <20010325143457.B80466@holly.calldei.com> <20010325234054.C31676@nathan.ruhr.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, March 25, 2001, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > Good, except the preface thing. And you're already 7 revisions behind the > current FAQ ;-) And for what it's worth, I've now got most of this process automated. Just a couple vi commands and a couple shell scripts I've written and I can cut up the latest version of the FAQ when it comes time to do so. -- +-------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | Chris Costello | A fault tolerant system must report the | | chris@calldei.com | faults even as it tolerates them. | +-------------------+-----------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 25 19:48:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F221837B71A for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:48:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 22276 invoked by uid 10); 26 Mar 2001 03:48:39 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f2Q3fl346171 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:41:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ue) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:41:47 +0200 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Translators: Need feedback on FAQ reorganization Message-ID: <20010326054147.D31676@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20010313002953.I77178@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010313124524.B2130@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010313231654.G83336@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010314131233.C6138@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010314210730.J83336@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010315023806.B46684@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010315200337.N83336@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010315210350.A1113@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010316104207.H24155@django.de.uu.net> <20010316190808.A389@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dkEUBIird37B8yKS" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010316190808.A389@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 07:08:08PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --dkEUBIird37B8yKS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 07:08:08PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 10:42:07AM +0000, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 09:03:50PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 08:03:37PM +0100, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > > As already noted, you seem to have > > > a good record of getting PRs committed. > > That's no big surprise because I've learned to cheat: Find a committer, > > pester him until he agrees to the proposed change, do the work, submit > > the PR and voila, no more working for the trash can. No, that's not > > the correct way to do things. > That's certainly one way to do things. Until we get more committers I > wouldn't be surprised if it was quite an effective way. It is effective - and it makes your "good record of getting PRs committed" criterium absolutely worthless. =20 > > right now I'm resting my case on the point that existing code is one of > > the better arguments :-> > Attached is a diff to freebsd.dsl which rewrites Norm's > xref-biblioentry function, and a diff to the FAQ to use it. I'll take a close look at it (and the html codes it generates) once I've managed to clean up the collateral damage caused by revision 1.155 of the FAQ. /s/Udo --=20 "They had no guns and no ties. What's your excuse this time?" "I had ammo." http://www.userfriendly.org --dkEUBIird37B8yKS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQCVAwUBOr66e0Poh1XnT6hxAQGedgP/QyUNHy5iBJnS2DJ+DevoT7c7XjxF6SH9 gl2gpsLuk83xWfOmm0JqzVemUnBwjK7ur+z0bncf9D+BfRhdsrRIkpSyXFRAMBBG CcHngVKePwnxGNjbNgzwrq0D7VDtNT4nsi7/TE19upBNSAn4albDo/r+Kfr7gCnO Aqiw5yDIxCQ= =EYej -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dkEUBIird37B8yKS-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 25 22:30: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAB137B71A for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2Q6U1M21681; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CE937B718 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:27:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Received: from cfcl.com (cpe-24-221-169-54.ca.sprintbbd.net [24.221.169.54]) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA72220 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:27:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rdm@localhost) by cfcl.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2Q6T7i54312; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:29:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm) Message-Id: <200103260629.f2Q6T7i54312@cfcl.com> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:29:07 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Morin Reply-To: rdm@cfcl.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/26090: more broken "SEE ALSO" references Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26090 >Category: docs >Synopsis: more broken "SEE ALSO" references >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Mar 25 22:30:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rich Morin >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Canta Forda Computer Laboratory >Environment: FreeBSD fb42.cfcl.com 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Nov 20 13:02:55 GMT 2000 jkh@bento.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: A number of SEE ALSO references point to nonexistent pages. In some cases, I have been able to supply a hint. Here, in any event, is the list: Referencing page Referenced page Hint ================ =============== ==== appres(1) X(1) bdftopcf(1) X(1) ico(1) X(1) listres(1) X(1) oclock(1) X(1) showfont(1) fs(1) twm(1) X(1) viewres(1) X(1) x11perf(1) X(1) x11perf(1) xbench(1) x11perfcomp(1) X(1) xbiff(1) X(1) xcalc(1) X(1) xclipboard(1) X(1) xcutsel(1) X(1) xditview(1) X(1) xdpyinfo(1) X(1) xev(1) X(1) xeyes(1) X(1) xfd(1) X(1) xfs(1) X(1) xfwp(1) ymngr(1) xgc(1) X(1) xieperf(1) X(1) xkbcomp(1) X(1) xkbevd(1) X(1) xkill(1) X(1) xlsatoms(1) X(1) xlsclients(1) X(1) xlsfonts(1) X(1) xmessage(1) X(1) xmodmap(1) X(1) xprop(1) X(1) xrefresh(1) X(1) xset(1) X(1) xsetroot(1) X(1) xstdcmap(1) X(1) xvidtune(1) XF86Config(4/5) (4) xwininfo(1) X(1) xmessage(1) X(1) X(3) XConsortium(1) (3) X(3) XStandards(1) (3) X(3) Xsecurity(1) (1) XCreateFontSet(3) XExtentsofFontSet(3X11) XExtentsOf... XCreateOC(3) XCreateOM(3X11) XDestroyOC(3) XCreateOM(3X11) XFreeFontPath(3) XListFont(3X11) XListFonts(3X11) XFreeFontPath(3) XLoadFonts(3X11) XLoadFont(3X11) XFreeFontSet(3) XExtentsofFontSet(3X11) XExtentsOf... XGetDeviceButtonMapping(3) XChangeDeviceKeyboardControl(3X) XGetDeviceModifierMapping(3) XSetDeviceKeyMapping(3X11) XChange... XGetFontPath(3) XListFont(3X11) XListFonts(3X11) XGetFontPath(3) XLoadFonts(3X11) XLoadFont(3X11) XGetOCValues(3) XCreateOM(3X11) XGrabKey(3) XAllowAccess(3X11) XInstallColormap(3) XChangeWindowAtrributes(3X11) ...Attri... XListInstalledColormaps(3) XChangeWindowAtrributes(3X11) ...Attri... XOMOfOC(3) XCreateOM(3X11) XSetDeviceButtonMapping(3) XChangeDeviceKeyboardControl(3X) XSetDeviceModifierMapping(3) XSetDeviceKeyMapping(3X11) XChange... XSetFontPath(3) XListFont(3X11) XListFonts(3X11) XSetFontPath(3) XLoadFonts(3X11) XLoadFont(3X11) XSetOCValues(3) XCreateOM(3X11) XUngrabKey(3) XAllowAccess(3X11) XUninstallColormap(3) XChangeWindowAtrributes(3X11) ...Attri... XmbDrawString(3) XXDrawImageString(3X11) XDraw... XtAppAddSignal(3) dWorkProc(3Xt) XtInstallAccelerators(3) XtParseTranslationTable(1) (3) XtInstallAllAccelerators(3) XtParseTranslationTable(1) (3) XtNoticeSignal(3) dWorkProc(3Xt) XtParseAcceleratorTable(3) XtParseTranslationTable(1) (3) XtRemoveSignal(3) dWorkProc(3Xt) XwcDrawString(3) XXDrawImageString(3X11) XDraw... >How-To-Repeat: Run whatis(1) on the referenced pages and see what comes up. >Fix: The references will have to be analyzed and fixed on a case- by-case basis. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 25 22:50:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd.org (c1025708-a.mntp1.il.home.com [24.8.114.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 066D337B719 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:50:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sell2meplease@hotmail.com) From: Consumer@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:42:45 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: I Want Your Products MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010326065015.066D337B719@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please send me more information about your products! I buy in large quantities and I need large quantities daily. Sincerely, Consumer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 25 22:50:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd.org (c1025708-a.mntp1.il.home.com [24.8.114.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE45B37B71B for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:50:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sell2meplease@hotmail.com) From: Consumer@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:42:49 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: I Want Your Products MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010326065036.EE45B37B71B@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please send me more information about your products! I buy in large quantities and I need large quantities daily. Sincerely, Consumer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 5:18: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts6.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78BB37B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:17:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rtarrant@sympatico.ca) Received: from sympatico.ca ([206.172.235.131]) by tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010326131755.IIFZ29116.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:17:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3ABF408D.B6B070B8@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:13:49 -0500 From: Ron Tarrant Organization: Computerman Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Misleading Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, The other day, I was reading Chapter 19 of the FreeBSD handbook online and got into a bit of a pickle after clicking on a link. I'd like to bring your attention to the following passage: --------------------------------- start ------------------------------------ 19.2.2.3. Using FreeBSD-STABLE 1.Join the FreeBSD-stable mailing list . This will keep you informed of build-dependencies that may appear in stable or any other issues requiring special attention. Developers will also make announcements in this mailing list when they are contemplating some controversial fix or update, giving the users a chance to respond if they have any issues to raise concerning the proposed change. The FreeBSD CVS commit message mailing list mailing list will allow you to see the commit log entry for each change as it is made along with any pertinent information on possible side-effects. ------------------------------------ end ------------------------------------- The two bits in angle brackets ( and ) appear, at first glance, to be links set up to join the respective mailing lists. Unless the reader goes so far as to read the next paragraph after these two, s/he won't realize this is not the case. I was informed by two different readers of the freebsd-stable mailing list that my message asking to be added to the freebsd-stable mailing list went out to everyone who subscribes, rather than just to the majordomo. I'd like to suggest that these links be either changed to point to the appropriate e-mail addresses or be taken out altogether so as to avoid this type of thing happening. I'm not a newbie to computers or to UNIX, but I was mislead by this and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I was embarassed to find that, in my haste to quickly sign up to the mailing list, I ended up looking like a bit of a dweeb to everyone else already signed on. I admit I was in a hurry, but I don't quite understand why these links would be set up in such a way as to post messages directly onto the list. Seems a bit chancey in the grand scheme of things, given that a number of corporate and marketing types are turning to FreeBSD these days. Every single one of them, considering the time pressure they're under, will likely do the same thing I did (who reads more than they have to, right?). For the sake of the mailing list subscribers, I implore you to make these changes. Thanks for reading. If any part of this message comes across as rude, I appologize. -Ron Tarrant rtarrant@sympatico.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 6:22:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1D837B71B for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:22:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id QAA14176; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:22:29 +0200 (MEST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14hXt7-00040z-00; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:22:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:22:29 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: Ron Tarrant Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Misleading Message-ID: <20010326162229.A13650@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: Szilveszter Adam , Ron Tarrant , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <3ABF408D.B6B070B8@sympatico.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ABF408D.B6B070B8@sympatico.ca>; from rtarrant@sympatico.ca on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 08:13:49AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, My suggestion: Leave the link text as is (so that eg in a print edition ppl can still find out what the actual address of the mailing lists is) but chnage the link to point to majordomo. However, I don't know if the mailto: URIs can also contain templates for the text? Because majordomo doesn't care about the subject, but cares about the text. If so, we can solve it like this. If not we should just take out the link (but not the link text!) so that it isn't clickable any more. This way, hopefully ppl will realize that they need to actually read a bit more... BTW, maybe we should take out the mail address of the doc list from under the title of the Handbook, because I strongly suspect that people never actually read the footer that says "If you have problems with FreeBSD mail -questions, if you have a problem with the docs, contact -doc" (paraphrased) but instead go straight for the mail address that's right under the title because they expect that the "author" will answer all their questions. This imposes unnecessary "support load" on the -doc list at times. -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 7:13:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.kconline.com (ns.kconline.com [216.241.132.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D63337B719 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:13:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lamar@ns.kconline.com) Received: from localhost (lamar@localhost) by ns.kconline.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2QFDNf55701; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:13:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lamar@ns.kconline.com) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:13:22 -0500 (EST) From: Lamar Peugh To: Szilveszter Adam Cc: Ron Tarrant , Subject: Re: Misleading In-Reply-To: <20010326162229.A13650@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > Hello, > > My suggestion: > > Leave the link text as is (so that eg in a print edition ppl can still find > out what the actual address of the mailing lists is) but chnage the link to > point to majordomo. However, I don't know if the mailto: URIs can also > contain templates for the text? Because majordomo doesn't care about the > subject, but cares about the text. If so, we can solve it like this. I agree about leaving the link text, but why not have the link direct people to a page such as www.freebsd.org/support.html#mailing-list (or any other appropriate page that might be more informative on how to actually subscribe to the lists -- eg, www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL). > If not we should just take out the link (but not the link text!) so that it > isn't clickable any more. This way, hopefully ppl will realize that they > need to actually read a bit more... I would do this as a last resort only, since I think we can probably find a better way to alert people as to how to subscribe to the lists. > BTW, maybe we should take out the mail address of the doc list from under > the title of the Handbook, because I strongly suspect that people never > actually read the footer that says "If you have problems with FreeBSD mail > -questions, if you have a problem with the docs, contact -doc" > (paraphrased) but instead go straight for the mail address that's right > under the title because they expect that the "author" will answer all their > questions. This imposes unnecessary "support load" on the -doc list at > times. I actually think some people are at times misunderstanding doc to mean doctor, which would understandably mislead a newbie to think "support" rather than "documentation", so that distinction might be noted appropriately on the website as well. :-) > -- > Regards: > > Szilveszter ADAM > Szeged University > Szeged Hungary My $0.02.. :-) Regards, Lamar Peugh KC Online System Administration - sysadmin@kconline.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 11: 0:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5291737B71F for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:00:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2QJ0hf38014 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:00:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:00:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103261900.f2QJ0hf38014@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/12/28] docs/23910 doc Handbook Chapter 14. Sound -- some fixes o [2001/01/05] docs/24083 doc change layout and content of kernel build o [2001/01/15] docs/24363 doc lack of explanation o [2001/03/18] docs/25890 doc [PATCH] There's no general guidance on cr 5 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp f [2000/03/20] docs/17521 doc Proposed FAQ on assembly programming o [2000/03/25] docs/17598 doc installworld over NFS documentation no lo o [2000/04/03] kern/17774 doc stray irq7 o [2000/05/03] docs/18379 doc Information on SSH hard to find in Handbo o [2000/05/19] docs/18674 doc ntptime.htm and ntptime.8 o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; o [2000/06/23] docs/19481 doc Serial Communications chapter in Handbook o [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) o [2000/08/23] docs/20794 doc Request 2 good documents under people.fre o [2000/10/07] docs/21826 doc ARP proxy feature lacks documentation o [2000/10/10] docs/21896 doc Mini-HOWTO for stp driver o [2000/10/26] docs/22333 doc share/doc/smm/07.lpd building moved in 3. o [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2000/11/08] docs/22701 doc lists missing from search options o [2000/11/11] docs/22778 doc Typo's in About.txt-Layout.txt o [2000/11/14] docs/22861 doc newsyslog man page is misleading and inco o [2000/12/01] docs/23230 doc missing index.html links o [2000/12/03] docs/23251 doc exports(5) man page erroneous in 4.2-STAB o [2000/12/04] docs/23292 doc /etc/dumpdates is not documented in secti o [2000/12/11] docs/23488 doc A manpage for section 7 regarding a Toron o [2000/12/14] docs/23559 doc missing manpage for hsearch libc function o [2000/12/22] docs/23767 doc ifconfig(8) manual page does not document o [2001/01/02] docs/24035 doc ptrace(2) PT_STEP incorrect documentation o [2001/01/13] docs/24305 doc man page syscons has reference to non exi o [2001/01/26] docs/24662 doc too many questions about source managemen o [2001/01/31] docs/24751 doc [PATCH] Digest list descriptions are out o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/02/02] docs/24802 doc fcntl man page does not specify what happ o [2001/02/03] docs/24839 doc fix ether.bridge o [2001/02/05] docs/24869 doc Some text elf.5 is duplicated o [2001/02/05] docs/24887 doc "make -j# installworld" can (will?) fail o [2001/02/06] docs/24923 doc 4.2 Release Errata page has no informatio o [2001/02/11] docs/25000 doc matcd(4) SYNOPSIS is wrong o [2001/02/11] docs/25016 doc symlink(7) manpage says symlinks have no o [2001/02/15] docs/25126 doc minor nits in whatis(1) command o [2001/02/16] docs/25134 doc Kernel USER_LDT option help incomplete o [2001/02/17] docs/25164 doc makewhatis(1) seems to be fouling up o [2001/02/20] docs/25239 doc fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about o [2001/02/26] docs/25392 doc Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu o [2001/02/26] docs/25405 doc misleading warning from catman(1), etc. o [2001/02/27] docs/25420 doc man page missing important information. o [2001/02/27] docs/25437 doc kernel configs are the only precious file o [2001/02/28] docs/25450 doc remove NCPU from docs o [2001/03/02] docs/25500 doc Update of ip(4) manpage to reflect curren o [2001/03/10] docs/25648 doc typos in some manpages (dependant) o [2001/03/10] docs/25657 doc no netid(5) man page o [2001/03/12] docs/25735 doc error in handbook o [2001/03/13] docs/25774 doc incorrect synopsis in vnconfig(8) o [2001/03/13] docs/25783 doc Add a new rule to the Committer Guide o [2001/03/15] docs/25836 doc erroneous comment in statfs manual page o [2001/03/16] docs/25875 doc the mailstats(8) header has the wrong sec o [2001/03/16] docs/25876 doc typos in jail.2 o [2001/03/19] docs/25919 doc supported hardware list says 'no' for Sou o [2001/03/19] docs/25922 doc "Complete FreeBSD" description outdated o [2001/03/21] docs/25985 doc some small fixes in raycontrol.8 o [2001/03/22] docs/26001 doc typo in sched_get_priority_max.2 o [2001/03/22] docs/26003 doc getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not sy o [2001/03/22] docs/26006 doc Changing zone(9) man page o [2001/03/24] docs/26060 doc No man page for /etc/host.conf o [2001/03/25] docs/26090 doc more broken "SEE ALSO" references 69 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 11: 1:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CF037B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:01:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2QJ1b138314 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:01:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:01:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103261901.f2QJ1b138314@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/03/25] docs/26081 doc patch to synchronize list of staff in Han 1 problem total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 11:28:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643BB37B719; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:28:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ben@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2QJSfs44440; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:28:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:28:41 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103261928.f2QJSfs44440@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ben@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26081: patch to synchronize list of staff in Handbook with CVSROOT/access Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: patch to synchronize list of staff in Handbook with CVSROOT/access Responsible-Changed-From-To: doc->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: ben Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Mar 26 20:26:14 BST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Unassigned doc PRs should be assigned to "freebsd-doc", not "doc". http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26081 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 11:28:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643BB37B719; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:28:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ben@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2QJSfs44440; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:28:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:28:41 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103261928.f2QJSfs44440@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ben@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26081: patch to synchronize list of staff in Handbook with CVSROOT/access Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: patch to synchronize list of staff in Handbook with CVSROOT/access Responsible-Changed-From-To: doc->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: ben Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Mar 26 20:26:14 BST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Unassigned doc PRs should be assigned to "freebsd-doc", not "doc". http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26081 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 12: 2: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BAF837B71A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:01:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Tony.Sterrett@Sun.COM) Received: from postoffice.West.Sun.COM ([129.153.85.5]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23393 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from sterrett (sterrett [129.153.48.173]) by postoffice.West.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1) with SMTP id MAA15066 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:01:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103262001.MAA15066@postoffice.West.Sun.COM> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:01:57 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Sterrett Reply-To: Tony Sterrett Subject: Confusion in Docs To: doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: hcqQWklpdgZW7FkCEeAy8g== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.2 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello: I'm a but confused over the documentation in FreeBSD Handbook Chapter 16. PPP and SLIP and FreeBSD Hypertext Man Pages section 8 PPPOED(8). It seem that the first document implies that you are able to invoke pppoe with a ppp statement That is: # ppp -ddial name_of_service_provider However PPPOE(8) gives a different means of using pppoe. That is : pppoed [-Fd] [-P pidfile] [-a name] [-e exec] [-n ngdebug] [-p provider] interface Cheers, Tony Sterrett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 12:11:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D29937B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:11:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2QKBbG24331; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:11:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010325234054.C31676@nathan.ruhr.de> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:11:13 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Udo Erdelhoff Subject: Re: FAQ reorganization Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, Chris Costello Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 25-Mar-01 Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 02:34:57PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: >> I've (finally) put together a tarball of the first stage of >> the FAQ reorganization (sticking each chapter in its own file). > > Just one quick question: Why did you put preface.sgml into the main > directory instead of additional directory preface? > >> How does this structure look to you all? > > Good, except the preface thing. And you're already 7 revisions behind the > current FAQ ;-) > >> Is it ready to go into the tree? > > Maybe. But the important fact is that the tree is not ready for it: > > ue@nathan$ uname -sr > FreeBSD 4.3-RC > ^^ > > You should the additional 21 days and import it once the release has been > rolled. You should definitely talk to Jordan (the release engineer) before > the import. Making a big change like this just before the release is > asking for trouble. After all, Murphy was an optimist. > > IMHO, of course. Nik handles the doc/ release engineering side, and Nik has already tagged the tree for this release, IIRC. If the reorg goes well, then Nik can slide the tags forward if he chooses. Once the tag is laid, the freeze for doc/ is pretty much done. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 12:11:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA0337B71B for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:11:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2QKBeG24336; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:11:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3ABF408D.B6B070B8@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:11:16 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Ron Tarrant Subject: RE: Misleading Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26-Mar-01 Ron Tarrant wrote: > Hi, > > The other day, I was reading Chapter 19 of the FreeBSD handbook online > and got into a bit of a pickle after clicking on a link. I'd like to > bring your attention to the following passage: > > --------------------------------- start > ------------------------------------ > 19.2.2.3. Using FreeBSD-STABLE > > 1.Join the FreeBSD-stable mailing list . > This will keep you informed of build-dependencies that may appear in > stable or any other issues requiring special attention. Developers will > also make announcements in this mailing list when they are contemplating > some controversial fix or update, giving the users a chance to respond > if they have any issues to raise concerning the proposed change. > > The FreeBSD CVS commit message mailing list > mailing list will allow you to see the commit log entry for each change > as it is made along with any pertinent information on possible > side-effects. > > ------------------------------------ end > ------------------------------------- > > The two bits in angle brackets ( and > ) appear, at first glance, to be links set up to > join the respective mailing lists. Unless the reader goes so far as to > read the next paragraph after these two, s/he won't realize this is not > the case. I was informed by two different readers of the freebsd-stable > mailing list that my message asking to be added to the freebsd-stable > mailing list went out to everyone who subscribes, rather than just to > the majordomo. > > I'd like to suggest that these links be either changed to point to the > appropriate e-mail addresses or be taken out altogether so as to avoid > this type of thing happening. I'm not a newbie to computers or to UNIX, > but I was mislead by this and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I was > embarassed to find that, in my haste to quickly sign up to the mailing > list, I ended up looking like a bit of a dweeb to everyone else already > signed on. I admit I was in a hurry, but I don't quite understand why > these links would be set up in such a way as to post messages directly > onto the list. Seems a bit chancey in the grand scheme of things, given > that a number of corporate and marketing types are turning to FreeBSD > these days. Every single one of them, considering the time pressure > they're under, will likely do the same thing I did (who reads more than > they have to, right?). For the sake of the mailing list subscribers, I > implore you to make these changes. > > Thanks for reading. If any part of this message comes across as rude, I > appologize. The links are appropriate I think (note that those are the e-mail addrs of the list, which is the same consistent style of the rest of the documentation). Perhaps having 'Join' be a hyperlink to the section that talks about subscribing to lists would work however? -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 13:22:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from medusa.commbiz.com (medusa.commbiz.com [64.123.92.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D3137B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:22:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wsuffa@commbiz.com) Received: from suffa-portable (suffab-1.clearchannel.com [216.142.92.254]) by medusa.commbiz.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA16199 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:23:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wsuffa@commbiz.com) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010326152017.007efbd0@medusa.commbiz.com> X-Sender: wsuffa@medusa.commbiz.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:20:17 -0600 To: doc@FreeBSD.org From: Bill Suffa Subject: Suggestion on the web page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Having just made the cardinal sin of sending a "subscribe" message to the entire -STABLE mailing list, I would respectfully offer the suggestion that you eliminate the "mailto" links when describing the various mailing lists, and either not replace them (forcing one to read further to find out how to subscribe) or replacing them with a short form that handles the subscription automatically. I submit that this might cut down the noise in the lists, and eliminate accidental messages on the lists resulting from subscribe messages. Just a thought. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 14:25:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3837037B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:25:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from walker@usc.edu) Received: from skat.usc.edu (root@skat.usc.edu [128.125.253.131]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id OAA23967 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from skat.usc.edu (cohiba.usc.edu [128.125.10.160]) by skat.usc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1/usc) with ESMTP id f2QMPcc11184 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:25:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3ABFC1FB.B039DBC6@skat.usc.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:26:03 -0800 From: Mike Walker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD University of Southern California (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD kernel book? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Some time back I heard rumors that a "Design and Implementation" book was being written for FreeBSD. Any truth to that? Thanks, Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 17:27:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCD837B719 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:27:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net) Received: from mark9.vladsempire.net (hutch-293.hutchtel.net [206.10.67.221]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA29165; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:27:12 -0600 (CST) From: Josh Paetzel To: Lamar Peugh , Szilveszter Adam Subject: Re: Misleading Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:26:18 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Cc: Ron Tarrant , References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032719273802.00297@mark9.vladsempire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Lamar Peugh wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > My suggestion: > > > > Leave the link text as is (so that eg in a print edition ppl can still find > > out what the actual address of the mailing lists is) but chnage the link to > > point to majordomo. However, I don't know if the mailto: URIs can also > > contain templates for the text? Because majordomo doesn't care about the > > subject, but cares about the text. If so, we can solve it like this. > > I agree about leaving the link text, but why not have the link direct people to a page such as www.freebsd.org/support.html#mailing-list (or any other appropriate page that might be more informative on how to actually subscribe to the lists -- eg, www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL). > This sounds like a great idea. Would you like to do a patch and submit it? If not, I'll do one. Josh jpaetzel@hutchtel.net > > If not we should just take out the link (but not the link text!) so that it > > isn't clickable any more. This way, hopefully ppl will realize that they > > need to actually read a bit more... > > I would do this as a last resort only, since I think we can probably find a better way to alert people as to how to subscribe to the lists. > > > BTW, maybe we should take out the mail address of the doc list from under > > the title of the Handbook, because I strongly suspect that people never > > actually read the footer that says "If you have problems with FreeBSD mail > > -questions, if you have a problem with the docs, contact -doc" > > (paraphrased) but instead go straight for the mail address that's right > > under the title because they expect that the "author" will answer all their > > questions. This imposes unnecessary "support load" on the -doc list at > > times. > > I actually think some people are at times misunderstanding doc to mean doctor, which would understandably mislead a newbie to think "support" rather than "documentation", so that distinction might be noted appropriately on the website as well. :-) > > > -- > > Regards: > > > > Szilveszter ADAM > > Szeged University > > Szeged Hungary > > My $0.02.. :-) > > Regards, > > Lamar Peugh > KC Online System Administration - sysadmin@kconline.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 17:31: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FAA37B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:30:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net) Received: from mark9.vladsempire.net (hutch-293.hutchtel.net [206.10.67.221]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA32378; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:30:45 -0600 (CST) From: Josh Paetzel To: Bill Suffa , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion on the web page Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:30:39 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <3.0.6.32.20010326152017.007efbd0@medusa.commbiz.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010326152017.007efbd0@medusa.commbiz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032719311103.00297@mark9.vladsempire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Bill Suffa wrote: > Having just made the cardinal sin of sending a "subscribe" message to the > entire -STABLE mailing list, I would respectfully offer the suggestion that > you eliminate the "mailto" links when describing the various mailing lists, > and either not replace them (forcing one to read further to find out how to > subscribe) or replacing them with a short form that handles the > subscription automatically. > > I submit that this might cut down the noise in the lists, and eliminate > accidental messages on the lists resulting from subscribe messages. > > Just a thought. > > There is a thread on this already. We are kicking around ideas to make this more clear. Josh > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 17:58:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from level3.dynacom.net (level3.dynacom.net [206.107.213.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7692037B71A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:58:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: (qmail 2416 invoked by uid 0); 27 Mar 2001 01:58:37 -0000 Received: from dsl1-160.dynacom.net (HELO urx.com) (206.159.132.160) by mail.urx.com with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 01:58:37 -0000 Message-ID: <3ABFF3C7.EB593238@urx.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:58:31 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin Cc: Ron Tarrant , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Misleading References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin wrote: > > On 26-Mar-01 Ron Tarrant wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The other day, I was reading Chapter 19 of the FreeBSD handbook online > > and got into a bit of a pickle after clicking on a link. I'd like to > > bring your attention to the following passage: > > > > --------------------------------- start > > ------------------------------------ > > 19.2.2.3. Using FreeBSD-STABLE > > > > 1.Join the FreeBSD-stable mailing list . > > This will keep you informed of build-dependencies that may appear in > > stable or any other issues requiring special attention. Developers will > > also make announcements in this mailing list when they are contemplating > > some controversial fix or update, giving the users a chance to respond > > if they have any issues to raise concerning the proposed change. > > > > The FreeBSD CVS commit message mailing list > > mailing list will allow you to see the commit log entry for each change > > as it is made along with any pertinent information on possible > > side-effects. > > > > ------------------------------------ end > > ------------------------------------- > > > > The two bits in angle brackets ( and > > ) appear, at first glance, to be links set up to > > join the respective mailing lists. Unless the reader goes so far as to > > read the next paragraph after these two, s/he won't realize this is not > > the case. I was informed by two different readers of the freebsd-stable > > mailing list that my message asking to be added to the freebsd-stable > > mailing list went out to everyone who subscribes, rather than just to > > the majordomo. > > > > I'd like to suggest that these links be either changed to point to the > > appropriate e-mail addresses or be taken out altogether so as to avoid > > this type of thing happening. I'm not a newbie to computers or to UNIX, > > but I was mislead by this and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I was > > embarassed to find that, in my haste to quickly sign up to the mailing > > list, I ended up looking like a bit of a dweeb to everyone else already > > signed on. I admit I was in a hurry, but I don't quite understand why > > these links would be set up in such a way as to post messages directly > > onto the list. Seems a bit chancey in the grand scheme of things, given > > that a number of corporate and marketing types are turning to FreeBSD > > these days. Every single one of them, considering the time pressure > > they're under, will likely do the same thing I did (who reads more than > > they have to, right?). For the sake of the mailing list subscribers, I > > implore you to make these changes. > > > > Thanks for reading. If any part of this message comes across as rude, I > > appologize. > > The links are appropriate I think (note that those are the e-mail addrs of the > list, which is the same consistent style of the rest of the documentation). > Perhaps having 'Join' be a hyperlink to the section that talks about > subscribing to lists would work however? It probably needs to be a menu item. I read a long time ago that a study had determined that 80% of the people do not scroll past the first screen unless they see something that applies to them. I think the number of people having problems subscribing could be related to that. I see a similar problem with /usr/src/UPDATING. People think it is a change history and never scroll 200 lines to the messages about updating to 4-stable. Kent > > -- > > John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 18:10:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752AB37B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:10:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CFB3E09; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:10:19 -0800 (PST) To: Tony Sterrett Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Confusion in Docs In-Reply-To: <200103262001.MAA15066@postoffice.West.Sun.COM>; from Tony.Sterrett@Sun.COM on "Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:01:57 -0800 (PST)" Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:10:18 -0800 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010327021019.11CFB3E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tony Sterrett writes: > Hello: > I'm a but confused over the documentation in FreeBSD Handbook Chapter > 16. PPP and SLIP and FreeBSD Hypertext Man Pages section 8 PPPOED(8). > > It seem that the first document implies that you are able to invoke > pppoe with a ppp statement > > That is: > # ppp -ddial name_of_service_provider > > > However PPPOE(8) gives a different means of using pppoe. > > That is : > pppoed [-Fd] [-P pidfile] [-a name] [-e exec] [-n ngdebug] [-p provider] > interface There is no pppoe(8). You accidently typed ``pppoed'' (note the 'd'), and it gave you the manual for the PPPOE server. The ppp(8) syntax in the Handbook is correct as far as I can tell (I don't use pppoe right now, but it looks reasonable). Regards Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 18:55:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f150.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1E337B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:55:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stalingrad20@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:55:43 -0800 Received: from 64.24.185.182 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:55:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.185.182] From: "Eric Buchanan" To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Translating Sysinstall's successor, I have a few questions Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:55:35 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2001 02:55:43.0364 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A102C40:01C0B669] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I was charged with translating Sysinstall's successor into Spanish when it is ready for me to do so. Its a given Sysinstall will live on with 5.0-Release, and I'd like to get in contact the contributor(s) charged with creating sysinstall's successor. Also I have changed email addresses since I was charged with the work with sysinstall's replacement. Thank you, Eric Buchanan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 26 23:39: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26AF37B71A; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:39:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2R7d5U45865; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:39:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpp) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:39:05 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103270739.f2R7d5U45865@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, mpp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/26090: more broken "SEE ALSO" references Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: more broken "SEE ALSO" references Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->mpp Responsible-Changed-By: mpp Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Mar 26 23:38:13 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll look at this, but it looks like most of them are 3rd party man pages. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26090 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 27 5: 1:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hellfire.sparc2000.com (hellfire.sparc2000.com [194.84.208.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BE837B718 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:01:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from AlexPap@Dashoguz.Investbank.org) Received: from mail.dashoguz.investbank.org (unknown [10.3.40.113]) by hellfire.sparc2000.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A3822EB7 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:01:39 +0500 (TMT) Received: from alexpap (unknown [10.3.40.133]) by mail.dashoguz.investbank.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9884EB70B for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:01:29 +0500 (TMT) Message-ID: <009601c0b6be$04179630$8528030a@dashoguz.investbank.org> From: "Alexander V. Papin" To: Subject: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:01:19 +0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 27 5:57: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (ns.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A0437B718; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:56:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (root@vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.112]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2RDuLH24900; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:56:27 +0300 Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2RDuPe36181; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:56:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3AC09BFF.FE5B1673@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:56:15 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org, i18n@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Fwd: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/ee/nls/de_DE.ISO_8859-1 ee.msg src/usr.bin/ee/nls/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1ee.msg src/usr.bin/ee/nls/pl_PL.ISO_8859-2 ee.msg] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Could someone check and make proper translation? Thanks! -Maxim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/ee/nls/de_DE.ISO_8859-1 ee.msg src/usr.bin/ee/nls/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1ee.msg src/usr.bin/ee/nls/pl_PL.ISO_8859-2 ee.msg Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:53:09 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Sobolev To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org sobomax 2001/03/27 05:53:09 PST Modified files: usr.bin/ee/nls/de_DE.ISO_8859-1 ee.msg usr.bin/ee/nls/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1 ee.msg usr.bin/ee/nls/pl_PL.ISO_8859-2 ee.msg Log: Update FreeBSD translations to match 1.4.1 (actually just copied Enslish messages as I don't know de, pl and fr). Revision Changes Path 1.7 +5 -2 src/usr.bin/ee/nls/de_DE.ISO_8859-1/ee.msg 1.10 +5 -2 src/usr.bin/ee/nls/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/ee.msg 1.5 +5 -2 src/usr.bin/ee/nls/pl_PL.ISO_8859-2/ee.msg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 27 6:33:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h004.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1C2337B71A for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 06:33:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vicky@vic.ky) Received: (cpmta 4983 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 06:33:40 -0800 Date: 27 Mar 2001 06:33:39 -0800 Message-ID: <20010327143339.4981.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 27 Mar 2001 14:33:39 GMT Received: from [202.154.30.44] by mail.vic.ky with HTTP; 27 Mar 2001 06:33:39 PST Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: doc@freebsd.org From: Vicky@Vic.ky Cc: question@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.7.1.9 Subject: Important email X-Sent-From: vicky@vic.ky Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear sirs, I just receive this email today at my box (root): --------------------------------- SUBJECT: 3 Mar 26 Mail System Internal Dat (523) DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA the that email CONTAINS: Date: 26 Mar 2001 14:14:29 +0700 From: Mail System Internal Data Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. --------------------------------- What I need to ask is, Is that email REALLY from my servers's MAILER-DAEMON? is it safe? can I delete it?, I kinda confused here since I never receive such an email like that. Please reply, I need to know very quickly. I thoughts I'm not save =/ Thank you Regards, Vicky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 27 7:51:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8E137B71A; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:51:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2RFgFx41801; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:42:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:42:15 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Small hacker task Message-ID: <20010327164215.D40583@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7CZp05NP8/gJM8Cl" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --7CZp05NP8/gJM8Cl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't have enough time to do this at the moment, so here's an outline for something I'd like to see written. Any takers? In a nutshell, I'd like to be able to send a message periodically to -questions, the newsgroups, and possibly -stable, about changes to the FAQ that have been made in the last week. =20 Given access to a complete CVS repo, and a date, this script should be able to spit out a list of questions that have changed (ideally using their ID in the FAQ, so we can construct links to them), and the revision in which that question changed (so that we construct CVSweb links to them). Access to the commit message associated with the change would also be useful. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --7CZp05NP8/gJM8Cl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrAtNYACgkQk6gHZCw343X7wgCfQ80DDZSkCYAGt+cuBWk5VGp2 wbMAoIuAjPiBKFvrs7qI4FxL1jH5NZw8 =tStQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7CZp05NP8/gJM8Cl-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 27 8: 7:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from twister.domainfactory.de (twister.domainfactory.de [212.84.255.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B693D37B718 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:07:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@gizmo.quizbot.org) Received: (qmail 23730 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 15:07:49 -0000 Received: from blndi4-145-253-140-204.arcor-ip.net (HELO gizmo.quizbot.org) ([145.253.140.204]) (envelope-sender ) by twister.domainfactory.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Mar 2001 15:07:49 -0000 Message-ID: <3AC0BAD4.F7BC2166@gizmo.quizbot.org> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:07:48 +0200 From: Robert Drehmel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small hacker task References: <20010327164215.D40583@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In <20010327164215.D40583@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>, Nik Clayton wrote: > I don't have enough time to do this at the moment, so here's an outline for > something I'd like to see written. Any takers? > > In a nutshell, I'd like to be able to send a message periodically to > -questions, the newsgroups, and possibly -stable, about changes to the > FAQ that have been made in the last week. > > Given access to a complete CVS repo, and a date, this script should be > able to spit out a list of questions that have changed (ideally using > their ID in the FAQ, so we can construct links to them), and the > revision in which that question changed (so that we construct CVSweb > links to them). Access to the commit message associated with the change > would also be useful. I have some time left this week - so I am going to do it. :-) ciao, -robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 27 8:35:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F284C37B718; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:35:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2RGZXQ18775; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:35:33 -0800 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:35:33 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Vicky@Vic.ky Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, question@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Important email Message-ID: <20010327083533.A15685@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20010327143339.4981.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010327143339.4981.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net>; from Vicky@Vic.ky on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 06:33:39AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is not a FreeBSD question. That message was created by you either using pine or U-W IMAP to read your mail and then reading if from another program. You can generally delete it safely. -- Brooks On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 06:33:39AM -0800, Vicky@Vic.ky wrote: > Dear sirs, >=20 > I just receive this email today at my box (root): > --------------------------------- > SUBJECT: > 3 Mar 26 Mail System Internal Dat (523) DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- F= OLDER INTERNAL DATA >=20 > the that email CONTAINS: > Date: 26 Mar 2001 14:14:29 +0700 > From: Mail System Internal Data > Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA >=20 > This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not > a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. > If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created > with the data reset to initial values. >=20 > --------------------------------- >=20 > What I need to ask is, Is that email REALLY from my servers's MAILER-DAEM= ON? is it safe? can I delete it?, I kinda confused here since I never recei= ve such an email like that. >=20 > Please reply, I need to know very quickly. I thoughts I'm not save =3D/ >=20 > Thank you > Regards, > Vicky >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6wMFUXY6L6fI4GtQRAlSRAKDPQhnFSEi6QJMTKSNKH/GoiNIy/wCfWZAV 4XfWTjOUJbAcYToycYqtCYY= =Il5H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 27 10: 8:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8810137B718 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:08:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 7129 invoked by uid 10); 27 Mar 2001 18:08:35 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f2RI93i52968 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:09:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ue) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:09:03 +0200 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FAQ reorganization Message-ID: <20010327200903.F31676@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20010325234054.C31676@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ryJZkp9/svQ58syV" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 12:11:13PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ryJZkp9/svQ58syV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 12:11:13PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > Nik handles the doc/ release engineering side, and Nik has already tagged= the > tree for this release, IIRC. that was my impression, too. > If the reorg goes well, then Nik can slide the tags forward if he chooses. > Once the tag is laid, the freeze for doc/ is pretty much done. If I understood Chris correctly, the cut&paste job is just the first stage of the FAQ reorg. He mentioned that he would have to move questions between chapters, rewrite questions, add questions, etc. That process will probably take some time. On the other hand, once the reorg starts to hit the tree, it's pretty impossible to get fixes to questions included into the release (without also included the first stage of the reorg). /s/Udo --=20 He could be a poster child for retroactive birth control. --ryJZkp9/svQ58syV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQCVAwUBOsDXP0Poh1XnT6hxAQEoiAQAlUDywtCM76VYxvsPYcETs2W2tR3Emo+f 5nYsO3IuWW1y4tG0A+cuiR5dAWjL0Axi9+klsFJ0jsgvDwmEtlz7zxhJlPcS1N2X d6UZyg9ZuKa+/fn4x2dlHx8E6FEd7zn765Tmf4kUcIxn77KEDJ8GLiJFoQ18Rwrs A/Ujj2m945g= =Pd7M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ryJZkp9/svQ58syV-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 27 10:22:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E5837B71B for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:22:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2RIMCG58614; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:22:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010327200903.F31676@nathan.ruhr.de> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:21:47 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Udo Erdelhoff Subject: Re: FAQ reorganization Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 27-Mar-01 Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > John, > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 12:11:13PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >> Nik handles the doc/ release engineering side, and Nik has already tagged >> the >> tree for this release, IIRC. > > that was my impression, too. > >> If the reorg goes well, then Nik can slide the tags forward if he chooses. >> Once the tag is laid, the freeze for doc/ is pretty much done. > > If I understood Chris correctly, the cut&paste job is just the first stage > of the FAQ reorg. He mentioned that he would have to move questions between > chapters, rewrite questions, add questions, etc. That process will probably > take some time. I don't think it will take 20 days. Chris already has a patch for doing the physical shuffling of bits around up for review, and the other non-whitespace changes he has already done, so it shouldn't take him very long to get those checked in either. However, best to let Chris say what kind of timeline he expects. > On the other hand, once the reorg starts to hit the tree, it's pretty > impossible to get fixes to questions included into the release (without > also included the first stage of the reorg). I think that the reorg might very well be done before the release now that the release is pushed back. If we only had one week until release, I would agree with this, but I think we have the time, however, I don't feel too strongly about this. > /s/Udo > -- > He could be a poster child for retroactive birth control. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 27 16:13:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.kconline.com (ns.kconline.com [216.241.132.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA74437B718 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:13:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lamar@ns.kconline.com) Received: from localhost (lamar@localhost) by ns.kconline.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2S0DUx14909; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:13:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lamar@ns.kconline.com) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:13:30 -0500 (EST) From: Lamar Peugh To: Josh Paetzel Cc: Szilveszter Adam , Ron Tarrant , Subject: Re: Misleading In-Reply-To: <01032719273802.00297@mark9.vladsempire.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Josh Paetzel wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Lamar Peugh wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > My suggestion: > > > > > > Leave the link text as is (so that eg in a print edition ppl can still find > > > out what the actual address of the mailing lists is) but chnage the link to > > > point to majordomo. However, I don't know if the mailto: URIs can also > > > contain templates for the text? Because majordomo doesn't care about the > > > subject, but cares about the text. If so, we can solve it like this. > > > > I agree about leaving the link text, but why not have the link direct people to a page such as www.freebsd.org/support.html#mailing-list (or any other appropriate page that might be more informative on how to actually subscribe to the lists -- eg, www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL). > > > > This sounds like a great idea. Would you like to do a patch and > submit it? If not, I'll do one. > > Josh > jpaetzel@hutchtel.net I'd rather not do the patch since I haven't taken the time to learn that whole process yet. John Baldwin sent a comment regarding this stating that the links are appropriate in their current state because the link text is the email address for the list, hence the associated URL should be the mailto link. As much as I liked my idea, I think he's correct on the issue. :-) However, the list names are all contained on the page at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL, so it would be appropriate to change the text of the paragraph Ron mentioned in the following way (or maybe some derivative thereof), thus eliminating the email address confusion: 1.Join the FreeBSD-stable mailing list. This will keep you informed of build-dependencies that may appear in stable or any other issues requiring special attention... Regards, Lamar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 27 18:53: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lota.izhcom.ru (lota.izhcom.ru [213.24.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED50437B719 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:53:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@itr.ru) Received: from zuko.istu.udm.ru (madded@vao.udmnet.ru [213.24.1.201]) by lota.izhcom.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3/Izhcom-V1.0m) with SMTP id HAA69285 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:53:02 +0500 (SAMST) Received: from itr.out2.imi.net.ru by zuko.istu.udm.ru (OS/2 ESMTP Server v0.4) for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:53:00 +0400 (RUS) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:08:03 +0400 From: Igor Kuznetsov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) Reply-To: Igor Kuznetsov Organization: ITR X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <33577510.20010326210803@itr.ru> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Book about FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! I want ask you about a book by FreeBSD. Maybe you may send to me html-book, because i can't find that book in our region? PS: We have not access to Internet. Only pop3 . :( -- Best regards, Igor mailto:admin@itr.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 2:56: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A8537B71A; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:56:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2SAu0K77381; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:56:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:56:00 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103281056.f2SAu0K77381@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dan@freebsddiary.org, phk@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/25783: Add a new rule to the Committer Guide Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Add a new rule to the Committer Guide State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phk State-Changed-When: Wed Mar 28 02:55:50 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25783 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 3:30:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3640837B719 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:30:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2SABXv46640; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:11:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:11:32 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FAQ reorganization Message-ID: <20010328111132.A46588@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010325234054.C31676@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010327200903.F31676@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010327200903.F31676@nathan.ruhr.de>; from ue@nathan.ruhr.de on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 08:09:03PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 08:09:03PM +0200, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > John, > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 12:11:13PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > Nik handles the doc/ release engineering side, and Nik has already tagg= ed the > > tree for this release, IIRC. >=20 > that was my impression, too. I haven't tagged it yet, because Jordan's pushed the release date back a week or so. > > If the reorg goes well, then Nik can slide the tags forward if he choos= es. > > Once the tag is laid, the freeze for doc/ is pretty much done. >=20 > If I understood Chris correctly, the cut&paste job is just the first stage > of the FAQ reorg. He mentioned that he would have to move questions betw= een > chapters, rewrite questions, add questions, etc. That process will probab= ly > take some time. >=20 > On the other hand, once the reorg starts to hit the tree, it's pretty > impossible to get fixes to questions included into the release (without > also included the first stage of the reorg). Yeah. Would it be a pain to put off bringing this in until after the release? I've just got the automated doc building working as well, and I'd rather not have the FAQ in pieces now either. =20 Having said that, I haven't had the chance to pull down Chris' latest changes and play with them yet (real life intervening and all that). I've set aside most of Saturday and Sunday this weekend for FreeBSD related work, which this'll definitely be a part of, if people are happy to wait for a couple of days. 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Best regards, Christophe Parmentier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 9:10: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de (dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de [131.220.161.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08FD437B71D for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:10:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from conrad@th.physik.uni-bonn.de) Received: (qmail 93550 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 17:10:04 -0000 Received: from merlin.th.physik.uni-bonn.de (131.220.161.121) by dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 17:10:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 2592 invoked by uid 145); 28 Mar 2001 17:10:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 17:10:04 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:10:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Jan Conrad To: Cc: Murray Stokely Subject: brand further binaries of Mathematica 4.x Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, please include the following lines in the Handbook 24.3.1 'Branding the Linux binaries' for the installation of Mathematica 4.x brandelf -t Linux /localdir/Files/SystemFiles/Graphics/Binaries/Linux/* brandelf -t Linux /localdir/Files/SystemFiles/Converters/Binaries/Linux/* brandelf -t Linux /localdir/Files/SystemFiles/LicenseManager/Binaries/Linux/mathlm These are needed for those who want to run the license manager and those who like to use the kernel without the Frontend (but with x11!). And I am sure somebody might need the converters... regards Jan -- Physikalisches Institut der Universitaet Bonn Nussallee 12 D-53115 Bonn GERMANY To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 13:36: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA96437B727; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:35:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from spike.unixfreak.org (spike [63.198.170.139]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2B53E09; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:35:48 -0800 (PST) To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: rwatson@freebsd.org Subject: extattr_(get|set|delete)_file manual page Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:35:48 -0800 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010328213548.3A2B53E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ cross-posted for wider coverage; replies -doc, please ] There are no manual pages for the extattr_get_file, extattr_set_file, and extattr_delete_file system calls. This is surprising, as rwatson wrote a man page for just about everything else relating to extended attributes. Attached is my attempt to write one. I'd appreciate comments on technical accuracy and markup bogons. Thanks in advance Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org --- /dev/null Wed Mar 28 13:02:30 2001 +++ extattr_get_file.2 Wed Mar 28 13:26:08 2001 @@ -0,0 +1,150 @@ +.\" Copyright (c) 2001 Dima Dorfman +.\" All rights reserved. +.\" +.\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without +.\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions +.\" are met: +.\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright +.\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. +.\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright +.\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the +.\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. +.\" +.\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND +.\" ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE +.\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE +.\" ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE +.\" FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL +.\" DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS +.\" OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) +.\" HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT +.\" LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY +.\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF +.\" SUCH DAMAGE. +.\" +.\" $FreeBSD$ +.\" +.Dd Wednesday 28, 2001 +.Dt EXTATTR_GET_FILE 2 +.Os +.Sh NAME +.Nm extattr_get_file , +.Nm extattr_set_file , +.Nm extattr_delete_file +.Nd manipulate VFS extended attributes +.Sh LIBRARY +.Lb libc +.Sh SYNOPSIS +.Fd #include +.Fd #include +.Ft int +.Fn extattr_get_file "const char *path" "int attrnamespace" "const char *attrname" "struct iovec *iovp" "unsigned iovcnt" +.Ft int +.Fn extattr_set_file "const char *path" "int attrnamespace" "const char *attrname" "struct iovec *iovp" "unsigned iovcnt" +.Ft int +.Fn extattr_delete_file "const char *path" "int attrnamespace" "const char *attrname" +.Sh DESCRIPTION +Named extended attributes are meta-data associated with vnodes +representing files and directories. +They exist as "name=value" pairs within a set of namespaces. +The +.Fn extattr_get_file +call retrieves the value of the specified extended attribute into +.Fa iovp . +The +.Fn extattr_set_file +call sets the value of the specified extended attribute to the data +described by +.Fa iovp . +The +.Fn extattr_delete_file +call deletes the extended attribute specified. +The +.Fn extattr_get_file +and +.Fn extattr_set_file +calls consume the +.Fa iovp +and +.Fa iovcnt +arguments in the style of +.Xr readv 2 +and +.Xr writev 2 , +respectively. +.Pp +The following arguments are common to the three system calls: +.Bl -tag -width x +.It Fa path +path name to the file or directory associated with the extended +attribute +.It Fa attrnamespace +the namespace in which the extended attribute resides; see +.Xr extattr 9 +.It Fa attrname +the name of the extended attribute +.El +.Pp +Named extended attribute semantics vary by filesystem implementing the call. +Not all operation may be supported for a particular attribute. +Additionally, the format of the data in +.Fa iovp +is attribute-specific. +.Pp +For more information on named extended attributes, please see +.Xr extattr 9 . +.Sh RETURN VALUES +If successful, the +.Fn extattr_get_file +and +.Fn extattr_set_file +calls return the number of bytes of +.Fa iovp +were read or written, respectively. +The +.Fn extattr_delete_file +call returns 0 on success. +If any of the calls are unsuccessful, -1 is returned and the global +variable +.Va errno +is set to indicate the error. +.Sh ERRORS +The following errors may be returned by the system calls themselves. +Additionally, the filesystem implementing the call may return any +other errors it desires. +.Bl -tag -width Er +.It Bq Er EFAULT +.Fa attrnamespace , +.Fa attrname , +or +.Fa iovp +point outside the process's allocated address space. +.It Bq Er ENAMETOOLONG +The attribute name was longer than +.Dv EXTATTR_MAXNAMELEN . +.It Bq Er ENOTDIR +A component of the path prefix is not a directory. +.It Bq Er ENAMETOOLONG +A component of a pathname exceeded 255 characters, +or an entire path name exceeded 1023 characters. +.It Bq Er ENOENT +A component of the path name that must exist does not exist. +.It Bq Er EACCES +Search permission is denied for a component of the path prefix. +.\" XXX are any missing? +.El +.Sh SEE ALSO +.Xr getextattr 8 , +.Xr setextattr 8 , +.Xr extattr 9 , +.Xr VOP_GETEXTATTR 9 , +.Xr VOP_SETEXTATTR 9 +.Sh HISTORY +Extended attribute support was developed as part of the TrustedBSD Project, +and introduced in +.Fx 5.0 . +It was developed to support security extensions requiring additional labels +to be associated with each file or directory. +.Sh AUTHORS +This manual page was written by +.An Dima Dorfman . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 14:12:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA8737B724 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:12:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2SMCeh15590; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:12:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:12:40 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Dima Dorfman Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: extattr_(get|set|delete)_file manual page In-Reply-To: <20010328213548.3A2B53E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Dima Dorfman wrote: > [ cross-posted for wider coverage; replies -doc, please ] > > There are no manual pages for the extattr_get_file, extattr_set_file, > and extattr_delete_file system calls. This is surprising, as rwatson > wrote a man page for just about everything else relating to extended > attributes. Attached is my attempt to write one. I'd appreciate > comments on technical accuracy and markup bogons. Thanks! I've been meaning to write and commit man pages, but just haven't gotten around to it. I had a partial set of first drafts, but then changed the interface for the system calls, so put it off further. These descriptions look fine to me, and I'd be happy to see them committed. It should be noted that this interface is highly likely to change again in -CURRENT as we adapt applications to use them, and so developers are discouraged from relying on the staticness of this interface. In particular, despite the existence of related calls in -STABLE, it's important the man pages not be MFC'd to there--there has already been divergence between -CURRENT and -STABLE with the attrnamespace arguments. Thanks again! Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services > > --- /dev/null Wed Mar 28 13:02:30 2001 > +++ extattr_get_file.2 Wed Mar 28 13:26:08 2001 > @@ -0,0 +1,150 @@ > +.\" Copyright (c) 2001 Dima Dorfman > +.\" All rights reserved. > +.\" > +.\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without > +.\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions > +.\" are met: > +.\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright > +.\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. > +.\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright > +.\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the > +.\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. > +.\" > +.\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND > +.\" ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE > +.\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE > +.\" ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE > +.\" FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL > +.\" DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS > +.\" OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) > +.\" HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT > +.\" LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY > +.\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > +.\" SUCH DAMAGE. > +.\" > +.\" $FreeBSD$ > +.\" > +.Dd Wednesday 28, 2001 > +.Dt EXTATTR_GET_FILE 2 > +.Os > +.Sh NAME > +.Nm extattr_get_file , > +.Nm extattr_set_file , > +.Nm extattr_delete_file > +.Nd manipulate VFS extended attributes > +.Sh LIBRARY > +.Lb libc > +.Sh SYNOPSIS > +.Fd #include > +.Fd #include > +.Ft int > +.Fn extattr_get_file "const char *path" "int attrnamespace" "const char *attrname" "struct iovec *iovp" "unsigned iovcnt" > +.Ft int > +.Fn extattr_set_file "const char *path" "int attrnamespace" "const char *attrname" "struct iovec *iovp" "unsigned iovcnt" > +.Ft int > +.Fn extattr_delete_file "const char *path" "int attrnamespace" "const char *attrname" > +.Sh DESCRIPTION > +Named extended attributes are meta-data associated with vnodes > +representing files and directories. > +They exist as "name=value" pairs within a set of namespaces. > +The > +.Fn extattr_get_file > +call retrieves the value of the specified extended attribute into > +.Fa iovp . > +The > +.Fn extattr_set_file > +call sets the value of the specified extended attribute to the data > +described by > +.Fa iovp . > +The > +.Fn extattr_delete_file > +call deletes the extended attribute specified. > +The > +.Fn extattr_get_file > +and > +.Fn extattr_set_file > +calls consume the > +.Fa iovp > +and > +.Fa iovcnt > +arguments in the style of > +.Xr readv 2 > +and > +.Xr writev 2 , > +respectively. > +.Pp > +The following arguments are common to the three system calls: > +.Bl -tag -width x > +.It Fa path > +path name to the file or directory associated with the extended > +attribute > +.It Fa attrnamespace > +the namespace in which the extended attribute resides; see > +.Xr extattr 9 > +.It Fa attrname > +the name of the extended attribute > +.El > +.Pp > +Named extended attribute semantics vary by filesystem implementing the call. > +Not all operation may be supported for a particular attribute. > +Additionally, the format of the data in > +.Fa iovp > +is attribute-specific. > +.Pp > +For more information on named extended attributes, please see > +.Xr extattr 9 . > +.Sh RETURN VALUES > +If successful, the > +.Fn extattr_get_file > +and > +.Fn extattr_set_file > +calls return the number of bytes of > +.Fa iovp > +were read or written, respectively. > +The > +.Fn extattr_delete_file > +call returns 0 on success. > +If any of the calls are unsuccessful, -1 is returned and the global > +variable > +.Va errno > +is set to indicate the error. > +.Sh ERRORS > +The following errors may be returned by the system calls themselves. > +Additionally, the filesystem implementing the call may return any > +other errors it desires. > +.Bl -tag -width Er > +.It Bq Er EFAULT > +.Fa attrnamespace , > +.Fa attrname , > +or > +.Fa iovp > +point outside the process's allocated address space. > +.It Bq Er ENAMETOOLONG > +The attribute name was longer than > +.Dv EXTATTR_MAXNAMELEN . > +.It Bq Er ENOTDIR > +A component of the path prefix is not a directory. > +.It Bq Er ENAMETOOLONG > +A component of a pathname exceeded 255 characters, > +or an entire path name exceeded 1023 characters. > +.It Bq Er ENOENT > +A component of the path name that must exist does not exist. > +.It Bq Er EACCES > +Search permission is denied for a component of the path prefix. > +.\" XXX are any missing? > +.El > +.Sh SEE ALSO > +.Xr getextattr 8 , > +.Xr setextattr 8 , > +.Xr extattr 9 , > +.Xr VOP_GETEXTATTR 9 , > +.Xr VOP_SETEXTATTR 9 > +.Sh HISTORY > +Extended attribute support was developed as part of the TrustedBSD Project, > +and introduced in > +.Fx 5.0 . > +It was developed to support security extensions requiring additional labels > +to be associated with each file or directory. > +.Sh AUTHORS > +This manual page was written by > +.An Dima Dorfman . > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 14:51:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web2203.mail.yahoo.com (web2203.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0992537B774 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:51:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from omar_shuja@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010328225147.11743.qmail@web2203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.163.98.201] by web2203.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:51:47 PST Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:51:47 -0800 (PST) From: Omar Shuja Siddiqui Subject: request for package information To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi my name is Omar Shuja. i visited your ftp site at ftp.freebsd.org. i was searching for lynx and irc packages. could you please tell me in which directory can i find these packages that are irc client and lynx web browser for linux. bye __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 15:50:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF7C37B71A for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:50:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net) Received: from mark9.vladsempire.net (hutch-848.hutchtel.net [206.10.71.176]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA27657; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:50:23 -0600 (CST) From: Josh Paetzel To: Lamar Peugh Subject: Re: Misleading Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:48:34 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Cc: Szilveszter Adam , Ron Tarrant , References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032917502000.00337@mark9.vladsempire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Lamar Peugh wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Lamar Peugh wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > My suggestion: > > > > > > > > Leave the link text as is (so that eg in a print edition ppl can still find > > > > out what the actual address of the mailing lists is) but chnage the link to > > > > point to majordomo. However, I don't know if the mailto: URIs can also > > > > contain templates for the text? Because majordomo doesn't care about the > > > > subject, but cares about the text. If so, we can solve it like this. > > > > > > I agree about leaving the link text, but why not have the link direct people to a page such as www.freebsd.org/support.html#mailing-list (or any other appropriate page that might be more informative on how to actually subscribe to the lists -- eg, www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL). > > > > > > > This sounds like a great idea. Would you like to do a patch and > > submit it? If not, I'll do one. > > > > Josh > > jpaetzel@hutchtel.net > > I'd rather not do the patch since I haven't taken the time to learn that whole process yet. > > John Baldwin sent a comment regarding this stating that the links are appropriate in their current state because the link text is the email address for the list, hence the associated URL should be the mailto link. As much as I liked my idea, I think he's correct on the issue. :-) > However, the list names are all contained on the page at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL, so it would be appropriate to change the text of the paragraph Ron mentioned in the following way (or maybe some derivative thereof), thus eliminating the email address confusion: > > 1.Join the FreeBSD-stable mailing list. > This will keep you informed of build-dependencies that may appear in stable or any other issues requiring special attention... > > Regards, > > Lamar Ok. That's the way it will be done, then. I don't have time to work on it until Sat. morning, so that's when I will submit it. Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 16: 0: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A5237B719 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2T002Q89658; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:00:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103290000.f2T002Q89658@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ben Smithurst Subject: Re: docs/26081: patch to synchronize list of staff in Handbook with CVSROOT/access Reply-To: Ben Smithurst Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26081; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ben Smithurst To: Trevor Johnson Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26081: patch to synchronize list of staff in Handbook with CVSROOT/access Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:52:35 +0100 Trevor Johnson wrote: >> Description: > > The list of committers in the Handbook is incorrect. > >> How-To-Repeat: > > Compare the contents of CVSROOT/access to the staff-committers section. > >> Fix: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~trevor/doc/staff.diff It's not as simple as that, you need to add the entities for all the committers or the build will fall over. Also IIRC you can't change n_hibma's entity becuase SGML entities can't have underscores in them or something, so that has to stay as &a.nhibma;. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 16:12:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6790637B725; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:12:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ben@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2T0CLX93272; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:12:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:12:21 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103290012.f2T0CLX93272@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ben@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ben@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/25985: some small fixes in raycontrol.8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: some small fixes in raycontrol.8 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ben Responsible-Changed-By: ben Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Mar 29 01:11:30 BST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Committed to -current, MFC soon... http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25985 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 16:18:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.interramp.com (smtp1.interramp.com [38.8.45.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0793437B719; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:18:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from horikawa@psinet.com) Received: from [38.26.194.216] (helo=localhost) by smtp1.interramp.com with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 14iQ8l-0002Fn-00; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:18:16 -0500 To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: dima@unixfreak.org, rwatson@freebsd.org Subject: Re: extattr_(get|set|delete)_file manual page In-Reply-To: <20010328213548.3A2B53E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <20010328213548.3A2B53E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010328191842F.horikawa@psinet.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:18:42 -0500 From: Kazuo Horikawa X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 19 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Dima, > [ cross-posted for wider coverage; replies -doc, please ] > > There are no manual pages for the extattr_get_file, extattr_set_file, > and extattr_delete_file system calls. This is surprising, as rwatson > wrote a man page for just about everything else relating to extended > attributes. Attached is my attempt to write one. I'd appreciate > comments on technical accuracy and markup bogons. Cool! I could find a very minor issue. > +.Dd Wednesday 28, 2001 March According to mdoc(7), .Dd Month day, year Document date. -- Kazuo Horikawa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 16:29:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C90E37B71C; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:29:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ben@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2T0TO895029; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:29:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:29:24 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103290029.f2T0TO895029@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ben@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ben@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/25836: erroneous comment in statfs manual page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: erroneous comment in statfs manual page Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ben Responsible-Changed-By: ben Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Mar 29 01:28:35 BST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Committed to -current, MFC soon... http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25836 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 17: 2: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5A537B727; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:01:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ben@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2T11wn98009; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:01:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:01:58 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103290101.f2T11wn98009@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ben@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ben@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/25500: Update of ip(4) manpage to reflect current kernel capabilities Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update of ip(4) manpage to reflect current kernel capabilities Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ben Responsible-Changed-By: ben Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Mar 29 02:01:42 BST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Committed to -current, MFC soon... http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25500 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 17:20: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A84537B71C for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2T1K3e02158; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:20:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103290120.f2T1K3e02158@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ben Smithurst Subject: Re: docs/25420: man page missing important information. Reply-To: Ben Smithurst Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/25420; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ben Smithurst To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, adriel@adriel.net Cc: Subject: Re: docs/25420: man page missing important information. Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:12:38 +0100 Would it be enough just to change the first sentence to say: Watch allows the superuser to examine all data coming through a specified tty, using the snp(4) device. That at least gets the reference to snp(4) where you're more likely to see it. Or would you rather it also said something like Note that the snp(4) device is not in the default kernel so you must build a custom kernel in order to use watch(8). ? -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 17:26:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201F737B71A; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:26:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ben@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2T1QLb02913; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:26:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:26:21 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103290126.f2T1QLb02913@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ben@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ben@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/25164: makewhatis(1) seems to be fouling up Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: makewhatis(1) seems to be fouling up Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ben Responsible-Changed-By: ben Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Mar 29 02:24:36 BST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Fixed ed(1) in -current, will try to find others and MFC them... http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25164 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 19:12:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dslab.csie.ncu.edu.tw (dslab.csie.ncu.edu.tw [140.115.50.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 911A237B718 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:12:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nogard@dslab.csie.ncu.edu.tw) Received: from ds78 (ds78.csie.ncu.edu.tw [140.115.50.78]) by dslab.csie.ncu.edu.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA49108 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:12:34 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from nogard@dslab.csie.ncu.edu.tw) Message-ID: <000801c0b7fe$d89f7940$4e32738c@ds78> From: "nogard" To: Subject: =?big5?B?p0Gmbi4u?= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:17:52 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0B841.E527A6E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0B841.E527A6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A7=DA=ACO=B8=EA=A4u=A8t=A5|=A6~=AF=C5=AA=BA=BE=C7=A5=CD...=A7=DA=AA=BA=B9= =EA=A4O=A4=A3=A4=D3=B0=F7....=A4=A3=AA=BE=B9D=A5i=A7_=B0=D1=BBPFreeBSD=AA= =BA=A4=E5=A5=F3=ADp=B5e... =C1=C2=C1=C2=A7A~~ ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0B841.E527A6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0B841.E527A6E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 19:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E7737B726 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:30:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2T3U4j22188; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:30:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:30:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103290330.f2T3U4j22188@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Trevor Johnson Subject: Re: docs/26081: patch to synchronize list of staff in Handbook with CVSROOT/access Reply-To: Trevor Johnson Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26081; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Trevor Johnson To: Ben Smithurst Cc: Subject: Re: docs/26081: patch to synchronize list of staff in Handbook with CVSROOT/access Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:28:52 -0500 (EST) > > http://people.freebsd.org/~trevor/doc/staff.diff > > It's not as simple as that, you need to add the entities for all the > committers or the build will fall over. Also IIRC you can't change > n_hibma's entity becuase SGML entities can't have underscores in them or > something, so that has to stay as &a.nhibma;. Thank you for reviewing my patch. I've updated it to add the new entities to authors.ent, and to leave the nhibma one alone. I didn't remove James Raynard's entity from that file. I still get errors from "make lint" but not all of them are from my changes. Probably I don't have the right bits of the doc tree in place. -- Trevor Johnson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 22:10:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEAB37B72F for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2T6A3M46271; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from cowpie.acm.vt.edu (cowpie.acm.vt.edu [128.173.42.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8D337B71C for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:08:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhagan@cowpie.acm.vt.edu) Received: (from dhagan@localhost) by cowpie.acm.vt.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f2T682u66570; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:08:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dhagan) Message-Id: <200103290608.f2T682u66570@cowpie.acm.vt.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:08:02 -0500 (EST) From: dhagan@acm.vt.edu Reply-To: dhagan@acm.vt.edu To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/26193: builtin(1) indicates that if is not valid is sh(1) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26193 >Category: docs >Synopsis: builtin(1) indicates that if is not valid is sh(1) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 28 22:10:03 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Daniel Hagan >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386 >Organization: Virginia Tech >Environment: System: FreeBSD cowpie.acm.vt.edu 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Sat Mar 24 01:44:20 EST 2001 root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: The builtin(1) manpage includes a table of commands, whether they are available as external programs, and whether they are builtin in csh & sh. The page indicates that 'if' is not a builtin in /bin/sh. Since it is, as far as I know, a builtin, the page should be fixed at some point. >How-To-Repeat: man builtin >Fix: Change the No to Yes in the sh column. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 22:27:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C617F37B71B; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:27:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gshapiro@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2T6RGx54353; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:27:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gshapiro) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:27:16 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103290627.f2T6RGx54353@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rdm@cfcl.com, gshapiro@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, gshapiro@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/25875: the mailstats(8) header has the wrong section number Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: the mailstats(8) header has the wrong section number State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: gshapiro State-Changed-When: Wed Mar 28 22:26:23 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: The change has been done in the sendmail repository and will appear in FreeBSD on the next sendmail vendor import. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->gshapiro Responsible-Changed-By: gshapiro Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Mar 28 22:26:23 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to sendmail maintainer. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25875 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 22:40: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A0037B71D for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2T6e1g55604; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E4B37B71B for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:33:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2T6XWp55047; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:33:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200103290633.f2T6XWp55047@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:33:32 -0800 (PST) From: jmallett@newgold.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/26194: BSD Family Tree needs updated Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26194 >Category: docs >Synopsis: BSD Family Tree needs updated >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 28 22:40:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joseph Mallett >Release: N/A >Organization: xMach >Environment: N/A >Description: xMach (www.xMach.org) could possibly be added to the BSD Family Tree, its origins are Mach4 and BSD LiteS (which is from 4.4BSD as well as CMU UX) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 22:41:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5E837B71A; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:41:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (murray@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2T6fQM17535; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:41:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray@osd.bsdi.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:41:26 -0800 (PST) From: Murray Stokely To: Nik Clayton Cc: Subject: Re: Indexing the Handbook In-Reply-To: <20010223144043.A46865@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: X-PGP-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This short thread died out a month ago, but there was never any resolution, soo.. On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Nik Clayton wrote: % > bounds checking % % My main concern is that in talking with a few people at various % conventions it seems that getting a good index involves more than just % sprinkling liberally around the document. % % I've got no idea how we select good terms to index, and again, the % feedback I've had suggests that it's much more an art than a science. % Which probably means we can't write rules and procedures for it :-) % % Do we also run the risk of having lots of different index terms, all % subtly different? I don't know. This is very easy to correct in practice. The HTML index that gets created is of course in alphabetical order, so very similar index terms that should probably be compounded are very easy to spot, and in fact I did this for several terms in my original patch (all relating to singular vs plural use of a noun). % Is this something we could use entities for? % % stack frame"> % % and then write % % &index.p.stack_frame; % % in the documentation? % % As I say, I don't know. I'm not sure what the best way is either, but I think this is a very minor style nit when compared with the complete absence of an index in our printed documentation. Replcaing the indexterms with entities is just a matter of search and replace, so we can easily change our minds later once we've actually got some experience working with an index. I would like to commit this patch to the Developers Handbook and continue adding index terms to that document. If things get ugly then we can find a better way before touching the FreeBSD Handbook. Are there any objections to me proceeding with this? - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 28 23:41:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E2D37B71E; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:41:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (murray@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2T7eRS18783; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:40:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray@osd.bsdi.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:40:27 -0800 (PST) From: Murray Stokely To: Jan Conrad Cc: , Murray Stokely Subject: Re: brand further binaries of Mathematica 4.x In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-PGP-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Committed, thanks! - Murray On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Jan Conrad wrote: % Hi, % % please include the following lines in the Handbook 24.3.1 'Branding the % Linux binaries' for the installation of Mathematica 4.x % % brandelf -t Linux /localdir/Files/SystemFiles/Graphics/Binaries/Linux/* % brandelf -t Linux /localdir/Files/SystemFiles/Converters/Binaries/Linux/* % brandelf -t Linux /localdir/Files/SystemFiles/LicenseManager/Binaries/Linux/mathlm % % These are needed for those who want to run the license manager and those % who like to use the kernel without the Frontend (but with x11!). And I am % sure somebody might need the converters... % % regards % Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 29 5:19: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server6000.net (server6000.net [209.239.58.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0858D37B71B for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:18:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carin@warming.net) Received: from carin ([213.237.141.130]) by server6000.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f2TDIfp07891 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:18:41 -0500 Message-ID: <00d001c0b852$ca955ff0$8a00080a@carat.dk> From: "Carin Warming" To: Subject: logo Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:17:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CB_01C0B863.54397A60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01C0B863.54397A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, My boyfriend is having the dsb-devil tattoo'ed om his shoulder. (Don't = ask :)) Do you have a more detailed picture of the devil standig still ? Kind Regards, Carin Warming,=20 From Denmark :) ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01C0B863.54397A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi there,
 
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I'm not on either doc@ or security@, so please cc me on any replies ] On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 11:17:09AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 02:13:03PM -0500, Andrew R. Reiter wrote: [ on adding warnings to man pages about potential format-string type bugs ] > > I am fairly poor with wording man pages, as you can see, but I think it > > might be worth while just to point this out. > > I've wanted to do this, but so far haven't had time. Do you think you > could submit a patch? Don't worry about wording, that can easily be > tweaked. Here's a first-draft of such a patch that covers printf(3), stdarg(3), err(3), setproctitle(3), and syslog(3), together with their on-the-same-manpage friends. I haven't touched NgSendAsciiMsg(3), and libstand(3) [ for panic(const char *msg, ...) ], but possibly I should. Any comments? Anything obvious I've missed? I'll look at these again with fresh eyes tomorrow, deal with any comments, and then file a PR, I guess. -- Mike Bristow, seebitwopie --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="format-string-vulns-man.patch" Index: share/man/man3/stdarg.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /upstream-repositories/freebsd.org/src/share/man/man3/stdarg.3,v retrieving revision 1.4.2.2 diff -u -r1.4.2.2 stdarg.3 --- share/man/man3/stdarg.3 2001/03/06 19:08:09 1.4.2.2 +++ share/man/man3/stdarg.3 2001/03/29 15:48:07 @@ -120,7 +120,7 @@ .Fa type is not compatible with the type of the actual next argument (as promoted according to the default argument promotions), -random errors will occur. +random errors will occur, which might lead to a security risk. .Pp The first use of the .Fn va_arg Index: lib/libc/gen/err.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /upstream-repositories/freebsd.org/src/lib/libc/gen/err.3,v retrieving revision 1.11.2.4 diff -u -r1.11.2.4 err.3 --- lib/libc/gen/err.3 2001/03/05 08:42:22 1.11.2.4 +++ lib/libc/gen/err.3 2001/03/29 15:48:07 @@ -97,9 +97,16 @@ and a space are output. If the .Fa fmt -argument is not NULL, the -.Xr printf 3 --like formatted error message is output. +argument is not NULL, then further output is controlled by treating +it as a format string that specifies how subsequent arguments (or +arguments accessed via the variable-length argument facilities of +.Xr stdarg 3 ) +are converted for output, in the same way as +.Xr printf 3 . +If the format string specifies an argument that does not exist, or +a type different from that actually given, random errors, that +could cause a security risk, may occur. +.Pp The output is terminated by a newline character. .Pp The Index: lib/libc/gen/setproctitle.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /upstream-repositories/freebsd.org/src/lib/libc/gen/setproctitle.3,v retrieving revision 1.16.2.2 diff -u -r1.16.2.2 setproctitle.3 --- lib/libc/gen/setproctitle.3 2000/12/08 13:49:24 1.16.2.2 +++ lib/libc/gen/setproctitle.3 2001/03/29 15:48:07 @@ -39,13 +39,17 @@ .Xr ps 1 command. .Pp -The title is set from the executable's name, followed by the -result of a -.Xr printf 3 -style expansion of the arguments as specified by the +If +.Va fmt +is not NULL, then the title is set from the executable's name, +followed by the result of treating .Va fmt -argument. -If the +as a format string that specifies how subsequent arguments are +converted, in the same was as +.Xr printf 3 . +If the format string specifies arguments that do not exist, or it +specifies a type different from that actually given, random errors, +that could cause a security risk, may occur. If the .Va fmt argument begins with a .Dq - Index: lib/libc/gen/syslog.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /upstream-repositories/freebsd.org/src/lib/libc/gen/syslog.3,v retrieving revision 1.9.2.4 diff -u -r1.9.2.4 syslog.3 --- lib/libc/gen/syslog.3 2001/03/06 16:45:55 1.9.2.4 +++ lib/libc/gen/syslog.3 2001/03/29 15:48:07 @@ -48,9 +48,9 @@ .Fd #include .Fd #include .Ft void -.Fn syslog "int priority" "const char *message" "..." +.Fn syslog "int priority" "const char *fmt" "..." .Ft void -.Fn vsyslog "int priority" "const char *message" "va_list args" +.Fn vsyslog "int priority" "const char *fmt" "va_list args" .Ft void .Fn openlog "const char *ident" "int logopt" "int facility" .Ft void @@ -60,33 +60,34 @@ .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Fn syslog -function -writes -.Fa message -to the system message logger. +function writes a message to the system message logger. The message is then written to the system console, log files, logged-in users, or forwarded to other machines as appropriate. (See .Xr syslogd 8 . ) .Pp -The message is identical to a -.Xr printf 3 -format string, except that +The message is created by treating +.Va fmt +as a format string that specifies how subsequent arguments are +converted, in the same was as +.Xr printf 3 , +with an additional convertion specifier of .Ql %m -is replaced by the current error -message. -(As denoted by the global variable +which is replaced by the current error message. (As denoted by +the global variable .Va errno ; see .Xr strerror 3 . ) -A trailing newline is added if none is present. +If the format string specifies arguments that do not exist, or it +specifies a type different from that actually given, random errors, +that could cause a security risk, may occur. A trailing newline +is added if none is present. .Pp The .Fn vsyslog -function -is an alternate form in which the arguments have already been captured -using the variable-length argument facilities of -.Xr varargs 3 . +function is an alternate form in which the arguments have already +been captured using the variable-length argument facilities of +.Xr stdarg 3 . .Pp The message is tagged with .Fa priority . Index: lib/libc/stdio/printf.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /upstream-repositories/freebsd.org/src/lib/libc/stdio/printf.3,v retrieving revision 1.17.2.5 diff -u -r1.17.2.5 printf.3 --- lib/libc/stdio/printf.3 2001/03/06 16:46:01 1.17.2.5 +++ lib/libc/stdio/printf.3 2001/03/29 15:48:07 @@ -170,7 +170,11 @@ the character .Cm % . The arguments must correspond properly (after type promotion) -with the conversion specifier. +with the conversion specifier. If they do not random errors, +which could cause a security risk, may occur. In particular, +user-supplied data should never be included in the format string +without checking that it is safe (eg, does not contain %s +and other character sequences with special meaning). After the .Cm % , the following appear in sequence: --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 29 8:22:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bakabaka.bignet.net (bakabaka.bignet.net [64.79.64.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D8C37B719 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:22:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zettel@acm.org) Received: from acm.org (host171.64-79-90.bignet.net [64.79.90.171]) by bakabaka.bignet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14824 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:21:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3AC3611A.F91EAAB0@acm.org> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:21:46 -0500 From: Leonard Zettel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Handbook section 10.3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A754063A452BA564B447E26D" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A754063A452BA564B447E26D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Based on some recent experience I had as a complete newbie trying to get freeBSD up and running, I am submitting the attached as a suggested revision to FreeBSD Handbook 10.3 Disk naming. 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10.3. Disk Naming

Physical drives come in two main flavors, IDE, or SCSI; but there are also drives backed by RAID controllers, flash memory, and so forth. Since these behave quite differently, they have their own drivers and devices.

Table 10-1. Physical Disk Naming Conventions

Drive type Drive device name
IDE hard drives ad in 4.0-RELEASE, ad0 is the master drive of the first controller. ad1 is the slave of the first controller. ad2 is the master of the second controller, ad3 the slave. wd before 4.0-RELEASE.
IDE CDROM drives acd from 3.1-RELEASE, wcd before 4.0-RELEASE.
SCSI hard drives da from 3.0-RELEASE, sd before 3.0-RELEASE.
SCSI CDROM drives cd
Assorted non-standard CDROM drives mcd for Mitsumi CD-ROM, scd for Sony CD-ROM, matcd for Matsushita/Panasonic CD-ROM
Floppy drives fd
SCSI tape drives sa from 3.0-RELEASE, st before 3.0-RELEASE.
IDE tape drives ast from 4.0-RELEASE, wst before 4.0-RELEASE.
Flash drives fla for DiskOnChip Flash device from 3.3-RELEASE.
RAID drives myxd for Mylex, and amrd for AMI MegaRAID, idad for Compaq Smart RAID. from 4.0-RELEASE. id between 3.2-RELEASE and 4.0-RELEASE.

10.3.1. Slices and Partitions

Physical disks usually contain slices, unless they are ``dangerously dedicated''. Slice numbers follow the device name, prefixed with an s: ``da0s1''.

Slices, ``dangerously dedicated'' physical drives, and other drives contain partitions, which represented as letters from a to h. b is reserved for swap partitions, and c is an unused partition the size of the entire slice or drive. This is explained in Section 10.5>.

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 30 4:56: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996A237B71B; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:55:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2UCtld06731; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:55:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:55:47 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Rasmus Kaj Cc: Nik Clayton , John Reynolds~ , Beau , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Documentation Message-ID: <20010330135547.A6717@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <14966.58186.247528.426703@hip186.ch.intel.com> <20010131013258.A12527@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <84elx2o894.fsf@frodo.sickla.raditex.se> <20010213192202.A33970@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <84ofw2o9pq.fsf@frodo.sickla.raditex.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <84ofw2o9pq.fsf@frodo.sickla.raditex.se>; from kaj@raditex.se on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:48:17PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:48:17PM +0100, Rasmus Kaj wrote: > >>>>> "NC" =3D=3D Nik Clayton writes: >=20 > NC> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 05:30:47PM +0100, Rasmus Kaj wrote: > >> So I think the word "Copyright" could be a link to the rest of the > >> legal stuff, which could reside either at the bottom of the frontpage > >> or on its own page. >=20 > NC> Done. >=20 > Wow, that was fast (especially considering your visit to Stockholm > just now). And it looks just as I meant, but unfortunatley the actual > link doesn't work. Maybe the filname (which looks like it comes from > an autoid) just isn't included in the install target? We kludged a fix for this, and Norm's just told me that an official fix will be in the next release of the stylesheets. Good catch. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrEglIACgkQk6gHZCw343U4zgCcCUoS7G2Te1GW6z0I/t4B5TYx XG0Anjtc1epOGtNi++4eB9XRcKlJEdZs =WgTd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 30 6:35:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFE637B71A for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:35:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jc7@ukc.ac.uk) Received: from modem-11.apanonar.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.117.11] helo=fluke) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14j000-0004aw-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:35:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000901c0b927$408b2da0$0300000a@fluke> From: "Justin Casey" To: Subject: Broken link on newbies page Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:39:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, just thought I'd let you know that the link to the pedantic PPP primer on the newbie page http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html points to http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ppp/ppp.html when it should point to http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ppp/index.html Regards, Justin Casey. 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Building 2, Suite 200 Westlake Village, CA 91362 Toll Free (800) 613-7480 FAX (818) 889-2415 Email gina@search123.com http://www.search123.com http://www.searchreferral.com=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 30 10:39:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from diskfarm.firehouse.net (rdu26-60-051.nc.rr.com [66.26.60.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DE137B719 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:39:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abc@diskfarm.firehouse.net) Received: (from abc@localhost) by diskfarm.firehouse.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2UIjlK94825; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:45:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from abc) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:45:47 -0500 From: Alan Clegg To: Gina Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Freebsd.org & SEARCH w/ Google Free Message-ID: <20010330134547.F91898@diskfarm.firehouse.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from gina@Search123.com on Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 09:57:07AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Unless the network is lying to me again, Gina said: > I am interested in speaking with the person responsible for generating > revenue on http://www.freebsd.org. Eh? Oh, that would be me. Send me the money and I'll invest it well. Bwhahaahahahahaaa.... AlanC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 30 10:55:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from postfix2-2.free.fr (postfix2-2.free.fr [213.228.0.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37F137B718 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:55:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eric.desmas@free.fr) Received: from ed2perso (nas-cbv-2-38-89.dial.proxad.net [213.228.38.89]) by postfix2-2.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CB7B6B70E for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:55:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <000a01c0b953$3614c990$40012c80@ed2perso> From: "eric desmas" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?install_apr=E8s_t=E9l=E9chargement?= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:54:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0B95B.965E2A50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0B95B.965E2A50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable J'ai install=E9 de nombreux Syst=E8mes d'exploitations (2000, NT, 98, = BeOS, LINUX, QNX...) sans difficult=E9s majeures.=20 Il n'y a que Freebsd que je n'arrive pas =E0 install=E9 de fa=E7on = satisfaisante Apr=E8s recherche sur les diff=E9rents sites, j'ai g=E9n=E9r=E9 les deux = disquettes d'installation, puis j' ai t=E9l=E9charg=E9 le r=E9pertoire=20 \bin et l'ai copi=E9 dans un r=E9pertoire \Freebsd dans la partition C: = (FAT). 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J'ai install=E9 de nombreux Syst=E8mes = d'exploitations=20 (2000, NT, 98, BeOS, LINUX, QNX...) sans difficult=E9s majeures. =
 
Il n'y a que Freebsd que je n'arrive = pas =E0 install=E9=20 de fa=E7on satisfaisante
 
Apr=E8s recherche sur les diff=E9rents = sites, j'ai=20 g=E9n=E9r=E9 les deux disquettes d'installation, puis j' ai = t=E9l=E9charg=E9 le=20 r=E9pertoire
\bin et l'ai copi=E9 dans un = r=E9pertoire \Freebsd dans=20 la partition C: (FAT). J'ai t=E9l=E9charg=E9 certaines autres = archives
(entre autre Xf86336) afin = d'obtenir la partie=20 graphique (sans savoir vraiment quoi t=E9l=E9charger, et encore = moins
dans quel arborescence pr=E9cise les=20 copier).
 
Lors de l'installation j'ai demand=E9 = le minimum +=20 l'aspect graphique. De nombreuses archives n'ont pas =E9t=E9 = trouv=E9es
pendant la phase = d'installation
 
Lors du reboot, Freebsd se charge bien, = mais en=20 mode caract=E8res.
 
Pouvez-vous m'indiquer quels archives = t=E9l=E9charger,=20 et dans quels r=E9pertoire copier celles-ci.
 
Merci pour votre aide.
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0B95B.965E2A50-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 30 15:15: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dannyboy.worksforfood.com (adsl-207-68-83-92.chlstn.adsl.bellatlantic.net [207.68.83.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF9537B71F for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:15:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dannyboy@worksforfood.com) Received: by dannyboy.worksforfood.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C336A5A55F; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:15:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:15:05 -0500 From: Daniel Harris To: Justin Casey Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Broken link on newbies page Message-ID: <20010330181505.A1932@dannyboy.worksforfood.com> References: <000901c0b927$408b2da0$0300000a@fluke> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000901c0b927$408b2da0$0300000a@fluke>; from jc7@ukc.ac.uk on Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 03:39:38PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 03:39:38PM +0100, Justin Casey wrote: > Hi, just thought I'd let you know that the link to the pedantic PPP primer > on the newbie page http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html points to > http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ppp/ppp.html when it should point to > http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ppp/index.html Thanks! Fixed. -- Daniel Harris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 30 23:10: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C0037B71C for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2V7A1I67460; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E2437B71B for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:01:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Received: from cfcl.com (cpe-24-221-169-54.ca.sprintbbd.net [24.221.169.54]) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA68896 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rdm@localhost) by cfcl.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2V72FU20097; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:02:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm) Message-Id: <200103310702.f2V72FU20097@cfcl.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:02:15 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Morin Reply-To: rdm@cfcl.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/26240: file name error in magic(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26240 >Category: docs >Synopsis: file name error in magic(4) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 30 23:10:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rich Morin >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Canta Forda Computer Laboratory >Environment: FreeBSD fb42.cfcl.com 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Nov 20 13:02:55 GMT 2000 jkh@bento.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: The magic(4) man page says: "The file /usr/local/share/magic specifies what magic numbers are to be tested for, what message to print if a particular magic number is found, and additional information to extract from the file." The file is actually "/usr/share/misc/magic". >How-To-Repeat: % man magic >Fix: Fix the man page. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 30 23:14:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F6D37B71B for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:14:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Received: from cfcl.com (cpe-24-221-169-54.ca.sprintbbd.net [24.221.169.54]) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA75894 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.168.205] (cerberus [192.168.168.205]) by cfcl.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2V7FNV20333 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:15:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200103310702.f2V72FU20097@cfcl.com> References: <200103310702.f2V72FU20097@cfcl.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:03:50 -0800 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: Rich Morin Subject: Re: docs/26240: file name error in magic(4) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Whoops; I just noticed another error: although the man page's page headers say "magic(4)", the man page is actually in section 5. -r -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdm - home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta/md_fb.html - The FreeBSD Browser email: rdm@cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 30 23:30:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A50237B737; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:30:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2V7UBN68878; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:30:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:30:11 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200103310730.f2V7UBN68878@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rdm@cfcl.com, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26240: file name error in magic(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: file name error in magic(4) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Fri Mar 30 23:27:30 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: This problem has already been fixed in 4.2-STABLE. Thanks for pointing this out though! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26240 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 31 9:33:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E581F37B71C for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:33:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bartequi@neomedia.it) Received: (from httpd@localhost) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f2VHXEi32436; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:33:14 +0200 (CEST) To: eric desmas Subject: Re: install a=?ISO-8859-1?Q?pr=E8s_t=E9l=E9chargement?= Message-ID: <986059994.3ac614da4980d@webmail.neomedia.it> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:33:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4-cvs X-WebMail-Company: Neomedia s.a.s. X-Originating-IP: 62.98.163.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > J'ai installé de nombreux Systèmes d'exploitations (2000, NT, 98, BeOS, LINUX, QNX...) Moi aussi :-) Monsieur, En cette liste de diffusion on parle (principalement) anglais. Veuillez visiter le site http://www.freebsd-fr.org; vouz y trouverez aussi des listes de diffusion francophones. Je n'ai jamais utilisé votre méthode d'installation, mais... Remarque I Les CD de FreeBSD contiennent beaucoup des logiciels (compressés) don't vous avez besoin. Remarque II Vous pourriez utiliser le système des "logiciels portés". Pour en savoir plus, veuiller lire http://www.freebsd-fr/handbook//ports.html Je vous prie d'agréer, Monsieur, mes salutations les meilleures. Salvo Bartolotta (Italien :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 31 9:55:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9539037B71B for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:55:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from httpd@aragorn.neomedia.it) Received: (from httpd@localhost) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f2VHVOV02944; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:31:24 +0200 (CEST) To: eric desmas , UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR Subject: Re: install a=?ISO-8859-1?Q?pr=E8s_t=E9l=E9chargement?= Message-ID: <986059884.3ac6146c6bb48@webmail.neomedia.it> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:31:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4-cvs X-WebMail-Company: Neomedia s.a.s. X-Originating-IP: 62.98.163.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > J'ai installé de nombreux Systèmes d'exploitations (2000, NT, 98, BeOS, LINUX, QNX...) Moi aussi :-) Monsieur, En cette liste de diffusion on parle (principalement) anglais. Veuillez visiter le site http://www.freebsd-fr.org; vouz y trouverez aussi des listes de diffusion francophones. Je n'ai jamais utilisé votre méthode d'installation, mais... Remarque I Les CD de FreeBSD contiennent beaucoup des logiciels (compressés) don't vous avez besoin. Remarque II Vous pourriez utiliser le système des "logiciels portés". Pour en savoir plus, veuiller lire http://www.freebsd-fr/handbook//ports.html Je vous prie d'agréer, Monsieur, mes salutations les meilleures. Salvo Bartolotta (Italien :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 31 13:19:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDF637B71B for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:19:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2V6YnZ13666 for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 07:34:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 07:34:49 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Message-ID: <20010331073449.A8779@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, Just a brief note to let you know that Addison Wesley have given us permission to include a chapter (in this case, chapter 8, "Printing") from the "FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide" in the doc/ repo. It's undergoing DocBook-ification in another window. I hope to have this ready to go out the door with 4.3. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrFeogACgkQk6gHZCw343XXhwCfWTgTVBgP8Q2cLUkPzTF1L59R c0MAnA+m7J5cMupbYoG2jcoq1TIq1hKs =D106 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 31 17: 9: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27B237B71D; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:09:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f31194D86227; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:09:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:09:04 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200104010109.f31194D86227@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dhagan@acm.vt.edu, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/26193: builtin(1) indicates that if is not valid is sh(1) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: builtin(1) indicates that if is not valid is sh(1) State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 31 17:08:37 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in -current, will MFC after code freeze. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Mar 31 17:08:37 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll MFC it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26193 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 31 17:17:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCAD37B71A; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:17:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f311Hfv86749; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:17:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:17:41 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200104010117.f311Hfv86749@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwm@mired.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/24751: [PATCH] Digest list descriptions are out of date. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Digest list descriptions are out of date. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 31 17:17:28 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=24751 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 31 17:20:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B42F37B719; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:20:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f311KXI87038; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:20:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:20:33 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200104010120.f311KXI87038@freefall.freebsd.org> To: neve_ripe@yahoo.com, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/25239: fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about old ports layout Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about old ports layout State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 31 17:19:37 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: English patch committed; the French one will have to wait for one of the translators. Thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25239 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 31 17:22:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80EC37B719; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:22:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f311MfJ87290; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:22:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:22:41 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200104010122.f311MfJ87290@freefall.freebsd.org> To: marcov@stack.nl, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ben@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/24305: man page syscons has reference to non existing manpage screenmap (4.2 and 5.0) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: man page syscons has reference to non existing manpage screenmap (4.2 and 5.0) State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 31 17:22:06 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed by ben in -current, awaiting MFC. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ben Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Mar 31 17:22:06 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Ben's MFC reminder. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=24305 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 31 17:25: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E19F37B718; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:25:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f311P2087450; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:25:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:25:02 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200104010125.f311P2087450@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hunter@dina.kvl.dk, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/23251: exports(5) man page erroneous in 4.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: exports(5) man page erroneous in 4.2-STABLE State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 31 17:23:56 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: I agree with Crist's analysis. There doesn't seem to be a problem with the examples, and there is an FAQ entry about it anyway. Is this sufficient? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23251 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 31 17:29:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41DE37B719; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:29:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f311TCk87702; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:29:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:29:12 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200104010129.f311TCk87702@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sugi@home.unpar.ac.id, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/19981: Indonesian translations Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Indonesian translations State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 31 17:28:03 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: From: Nik Clayton To: sugi@home.unpar.ac.id Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/19981: Indonesian translations Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:23:35 +0000 [...] Do you have a later version you'd like us to use instead, or can we import this as it is? If so, can you let us know which version of the English book.sgml it was based on, so that anyone else who wants to update it knows which baseline in the English FAQ they have to work from. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=19981 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 31 17:42:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335C937B729; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:42:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f311goa88600; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:42:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:42:50 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200104010142.f311goa88600@freefall.freebsd.org> To: lowell@world.std.com, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/25922: "Complete FreeBSD" description outdated Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: "Complete FreeBSD" description outdated State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 31 17:42:41 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25922 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 31 17:50:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2704637B718; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:50:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f311onC89201; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:50:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:50:49 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200104010150.f311onC89201@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rwatson@freebsd.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26003: getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not syslimits.h Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not syslimits.h State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 31 17:50:15 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Is mentioning syslimits.h in the man page sufficient? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26003 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 31 19:23:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E9D37B718; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:23:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f313NLh66945; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:23:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:23:21 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: dd@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, bde@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/26003: getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not syslimits.h In-Reply-To: <200104010150.f311onC89201@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dunno -- I guess this leads to a number of questions of specification-land -- is NGROUPS_MAX supposed to be exposed to the application, if so, how should the application go about including things to get the value, etc. Bruce might have a good answer, if not a correct one, so I've CC'd him :-). Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 dd@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not syslimits.h > > State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback > State-Changed-By: dd > State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 31 17:50:15 PST 2001 > State-Changed-Why: > Is mentioning syslimits.h in the man page sufficient? > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26003 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 31 20:26:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.salesenhancer.com (gw-sc4-1.autoweb.com [216.35.10.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9ED737B71C; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:26:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from apl876c@polbox.com) Received: from Message-ID: <20010325232919.23835.qmail@nwcst313.netaddress.usa [209.206.0.33] by mail.salesenhancer.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AD87B71014E; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:24:39 -0800 Message-ID: <00001e872728$0000489e$00002123@(InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP > To: From: apl876c@polbox.com Subject: Rates DROPPED! 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