From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 15 0:25:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC83E37B506; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7273E28; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:25:35 -0700 (PDT) To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jim Mock , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: broken porter's handbook In-Reply-To: <20010414225146.A5369@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on "Sat, 14 Apr 2001 22:51:46 +0100" Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:25:35 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010415072535.7A7273E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton writes: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:58:28PM -0400, Jim Mock wrote: > > This has happened with /handbook/ at least twice now too, and each time > > it's been pointed out I've built a copy locally and don't have the > > messed up index. Nik, is there anything in particular that causes this > > to happen? > > I've never been able to duplicate this locally, or on any other machines > I build the docs on. Perhaps it's a malloc (or equivalent) failing when > the docs build on freefall, because freefall does tend to get hammered > periodically. Does the web build on freefall use the -j option to make(1) by any chance? I looked at the broken file when I first got billf's e-mail, and it looked to me like two processes were trying to write to the file simulatiously. I tried using -j locally, but everything seemed fine. However, -j combined with heavy load (which I didn't have) just might explain this phenomenon. Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 15 10:40: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E72437B43F for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3FHe1p44750; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from gizmo.quizbot.org (blndi5-212-144-192-220.arcor-ip.net [212.144.192.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A72737B42C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:33:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@gizmo.quizbot.org) Received: (from robert@localhost) by gizmo.quizbot.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f3FHXlt01075; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:33:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from robert) Message-Id: <200104151733.f3FHXlt01075@gizmo.quizbot.org> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:33:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Robert Drehmel To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/26601: FAQ: missing id in question tag Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26601 >Category: docs >Synopsis: FAQ: missing id in question tag >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Apr 15 10:40:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Robert Drehmel >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD/i386 5.0-CURRENT >Description: The question added in revision 1.173 has no id. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.173 diff -r1.173 book.sgml 4443c4443 < --- > >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 15 12:17:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FEC37B422; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:17:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3FJHrN57809; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:17:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104151917.f3FJHrN57809@freefall.freebsd.org> To: robert@gizmo.quizbot.org, jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26601: FAQ: missing id in question tag Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FAQ: missing id in question tag State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jim State-Changed-When: Sun Apr 15 12:17:37 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26601 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 15 12:36:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D07937B424 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:36:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from spike.unixfreak.org (spike [63.198.170.139]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E84A3E2F; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:36:43 -0700 (PDT) To: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggested adendum to FAQ section 3.22 In-Reply-To: <3AD6B215.189906@ludd.luth.se>; from watchman@ludd.luth.se on "Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:00:21 +0200" Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:36:43 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010415193643.3E84A3E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= writes: > Problem discussion: > ------------------- > First off - a question: Wouldn't the same problem affect ftp, http and > ping to the same host - that is a name resolution problem should affect > all connection types, not only telnet or ssh, no? Not necessarily. Only certain services try to do a reverse lookup when someone connects. Most HTTP servers, for example, do not. Nevertheless, you have a point that services other than ssh and telnet can be affected; I'll change the wording of the question to reflect that. > For me I had the behaviour described in 3.22. The problem was that the > sites I tried to connect to belonged to some of the bigger sites on the > net, and the DNSs I use are also among the bigger ones (my ISP is the > biggest ISP in the country). It was also pretty easy to do a name lookup > and find the correct name and IP-number for the hosts I tried to SSH or > Telnet to. > > Furthermore, ftp worked nicely, whereas telnet to port 21 didn't. > Running ktrace while running ssh and telnet suggested common libraries. > The solution found was to do a buildworld/installworld so that libraries > and binaries were updated. Now, ssh and telnet runs fine. > > > Analysis of my faulty ways: > --------------------------- > (1) I had used -O3 optimization for the last version of system upgrade. > Yes, this is BAD. No, it won't happen again. This could very well be the > reason for the behaviour. > > (2) I update the cvs-tree and make buildworld on a weekly basis, but > update the system very much more rarely. The kernel however have been > updated due to added HW and such things. Since the kernel sources have > been updated, some problems due to kernel and system is out of sync > might be responsible. I understand where you're coming from with this, but I don't think it's appropriate to try to document every possible mode of failure. That's sort of like documenting the fact that the network cable must be plugged in in order for this stuff to work! If we did that, we'd be too busy changing all of the questions with the latest way to break the system instead of writing new and more useful documents. The answer attempts to describe the most common solution to the stated problem as derived from reading -questions. It can't possibly mention every single thing that could go wrong, and mentioning just some of the more obscure things isn't going to help anything. I understand that it might help a few other people, but I simply don't think it's worth it. Regards, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 15 13: 1:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailg.telia.com (mailg.telia.com [194.22.194.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5AD37B443 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:01:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from watchman@ludd.luth.se) Received: from d1o907.telia.com (d1o907.telia.com [195.252.38.241]) by mailg.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3FK1UH02579; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:01:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ludd.luth.se (h63n2fls21o907.telia.com [213.66.203.63]) by d1o907.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25713; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:01:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3AD9FE03.BDC000DC@ludd.luth.se> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:01:07 +0200 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Organization: Acne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggested adendum to FAQ section 3.22 References: <20010415193643.3E84A3E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Aloha! Dima Dorfman wrote: > > Analysis of my faulty ways: > > --------------------------- > > (1) I had used -O3 optimization for the last version of system upgrade. > > Yes, this is BAD. No, it won't happen again. This could very well be the > > reason for the behaviour. > > > > (2) I update the cvs-tree and make buildworld on a weekly basis, but > > update the system very much more rarely. The kernel however have been > > updated due to added HW and such things. Since the kernel sources have > > been updated, some problems due to kernel and system is out of sync > > might be responsible. > > I understand where you're coming from with this, but I don't think > it's appropriate to try to document every possible mode of failure. > That's sort of like documenting the fact that the network cable must > be plugged in in order for this stuff to work! If we did that, we'd > be too busy changing all of the questions with the latest way to break > the system instead of writing new and more useful documents. > > The answer attempts to describe the most common solution to the stated > problem as derived from reading -questions. It can't possibly mention > every single thing that could go wrong, and mentioning just some of > the more obscure things isn't going to help anything. I understand > that it might help a few other people, but I simply don't think it's > worth it. I'm fully aware that the FAQ or any other documentation can't cover all possible problems - and wouldn't suggest such thing. My thought was simply that the current wording of the section was pretty strong. I simply wanted to suggest adding some "make sure that... (in this case system in sync, compiled correctly - which probably is a good first start for bug hunting in general)" with an appropriate reference to section this or that. Just as a protection from confusion (*). I might be extremly goofy and lame to end up with a system which had the problems I had. Life have so far taught me though, that generally speaking you are rarely half as unique as you might think - including goofiness, stupidity and lameness. The most probable and common problem with slow connection of SSH and Telnet would be DNS failure? Ok, I'll by that. (*) In Swedish commonly known as a "Brasklapp". Have no idea what the appropriate Englisg word would be though. The term usually implies writing something as a way to pretect you from bad things IF something not forseen happens.. or to that effect. (**) (**) Yes, very FreeBSD off topic. .-) -- Cheers! Joachim - Alltid i harmonisk svängning --- FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight --- Joachim Strömbergson ASIC SoC designer, nice to CUTE animals Phone: +46(0)31 - 27 98 47 Web: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~watchman --------------- Spamfodder: regeringen@regeringen.se --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 15 16:16:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net [129.250.36.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C65737B440 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:16:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bokr@accessone.com) Received: from [129.250.38.64] (helo=dfw-mmp4.email.verio.net) by dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net with esmtp id 14ovkl-00007m-00; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:16:23 +0000 Received: from [63.183.7.120] (helo=gazelle.accessone.com) by dfw-mmp4.email.verio.net with esmtp id 14ovkk-00003O-00; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:16:22 +0000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20010415154814.00ac3830@mail.accessone.com> X-Sender: bokr@mail.accessone.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:17:12 -0700 To: Dima Dorfman From: Bengt Richter Subject: Re: Suggested adendum to FAQ section 3.22 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010415193643.3E84A3E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <3AD6B215.189906@ludd.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:36 2001-04-15 -0700, you wrote: >Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= writes: > > Problem discussion: [...] I understand where you're coming from with this, but I don't think >it's appropriate to try to document every possible mode of failure. >That's sort of like documenting the fact that the network cable must >be plugged in in order for this stuff to work! If we did that, we'd >be too busy changing all of the questions with the latest way to break >the system instead of writing new and more useful documents. > >The answer attempts to describe the most common solution to the stated >problem as derived from reading -questions. It can't possibly mention >every single thing that could go wrong, and mentioning just some of >the more obscure things isn't going to help anything. I understand >that it might help a few other people, but I simply don't think it's >worth it. My preference as a documentation consumer is to have separately placed info for my three most common types of access: (1) quick reference, best satisfied with cookbook examples of the two or three most common usage patterns, followed by concise explanations in case I don't immediately see what I needed; the best man pages do this, (2) looking for something normal, but more obscure, needing a complete exposition of normal usage, with minimal error info; again the best man pages do this, and (3) troubleshooting mode, where the subject is not normal operation, but exceptions, and looking for a clue as to what happened. This is the kind of material you are talking about, right? As with programs, perhaps documentation can benefit by moving exception stuff out of the way of the normal stuff? (1) is why I like reference cards that fit in your shirt pocket, or equiv. (2) is why I like non-tutorial, concise, well-indexed, orderly manuals, especially the slim-volume types. (3) could be a separate document, a well-indexed collection of pitfall descriptions. Even a file of (long) one-liners that could be grepped for pitfall avoidance hints could be useful. People could add a line whenever they fell into something unpleasant. (4) (added right here before your eyes) is the tutorial intro and exercises category. oops, gotta run... Regards, Bengt Richter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 15 17: 0: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E1237B43E for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3G001P84035; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA7937B424 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:56:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3FNuKV83849; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:56:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200104152356.f3FNuKV83849@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:56:20 -0700 (PDT) From: clin@imasy.org To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/26605: The documents for ppp(8) have some inconsistencies with its behavier. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26605 >Category: docs >Synopsis: The documents for ppp(8) have some inconsistencies with its behavier. >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Apr 15 17:00:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Hiroyuki CHIBA >Release: 4.2-Release >Organization: IMASY >Environment: worf.bop.imasy.org 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #2: Wed Apr 4 22:40:27 JST 2001 hiro@worf.bop.imasy.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/WORF i386 >Description: ppp(8) doesn't work when the phone number includes "#" and is not embraced with """ in ppp.conf. It has not been occuered with 4.1R or earlier. 1) all examples of "set phone" in /usr/share/ppp/ppp.conf have raw phone numbers without embracement. 2) Manual pages of ppp(8) has an ambiguous example as: set phone telno[|backupnumber]...[:nextnumber]... without any descriptions that suggest of embracement. Note: The phone number with "#" is used for designation of protocols such as "PIAFS" by a Japanese carrier company. It may be machine-independed, I think. >How-To-Repeat: For examples, including "set phone 1234567##4" in ppp.conf ppp doesn't dial to any distinations, "1234567##4" or "1234567" . >Fix: 1) embrace all phone number of examples with """. (/usr/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample) 2) clarify that it is needed embracement for phone number. or 1) (same). 2) clarify that "#" in phone number is needed a quotation with "\" . >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 16 0: 6:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web10706.mail.yahoo.com (web10706.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3F9D37B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:06:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grsb_007@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010416070613.34698.qmail@web10706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [196.12.37.132] by web10706.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:06:13 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:06:13 -0700 (PDT) From: rama surendra To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi FreeBSD, I am surenda working as a Software Engg in SPIL computers. I seened your site. please send your free cd and free book let. I am very interset to install freeBSD software. So please sne as soon as possible. Your TRULY, Surendra __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 16 9: 0: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AF537B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3GG01m17833; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from smtp.well.com (smtp.well.com [208.178.101.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C56937B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:55:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from howardjp@well.com) Received: from well.com (howardjp@well.com [208.178.101.2]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA25610 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (howardjp@localhost) by well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28002 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:55:36 -0700 (PDT) From: James Howard To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/26616: Adding FreeBSD Corporate Networking Guide to Handbook/Bibliography Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26616 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Adding FreeBSD Corporate Networking Guide to Handbook/Bibliography >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 16 09:00:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: James P. Howard II >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Wavix Incorporated >Environment: N/A >Description: The Handbook's list of books does not contain "The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide." >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: --- chapter.sgml.orig Fri Apr 13 11:23:02 2001 +++ chapter.sgml Fri Apr 13 14:08:11 2001 @@ -80,6 +80,13 @@ The Complete FreeBSD, published by BSDi. + + + + The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide, published by Addison-Wesley. + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 16 9:11: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com (mail1.sta.samsung.com [63.166.115.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E7437B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:10:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from skodali@sta.samsung.com) Received: by stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:11:53 -0500 Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01018A62@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> From: Sanjay Kodali To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: could you please respond quickly... 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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C68F.EEFFFA30-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 16 9:17:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCA237B43C; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:17:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3GGHCN21937; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:17:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:17:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104161617.f3GGHCN21937@freefall.freebsd.org> To: howardjp@well.com, jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26616: Adding FreeBSD Corporate Networking Guide to Handbook/Bibliography Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Adding FreeBSD Corporate Networking Guide to Handbook/Bibliography State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jim State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 16 09:16:58 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26616 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 16 11: 0:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38F537B506 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:00:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3GI0Ir34988 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:00:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104161800.f3GI0Ir34988@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/12/28] docs/23910 doc Handbook Chapter 14. Sound -- some fixes o [2001/01/05] docs/24083 doc change layout and content of kernel build o [2001/01/15] docs/24363 doc lack of explanation o [2001/03/18] docs/25890 doc [PATCH] There's no general guidance on cr o [2001/04/15] docs/26605 doc The documents for ppp(8) have some incons 6 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp f [2000/03/20] docs/17521 doc Proposed FAQ on assembly programming o [2000/03/25] docs/17598 doc installworld over NFS documentation no lo o [2000/04/03] kern/17774 doc stray irq7 o [2000/05/03] docs/18379 doc Information on SSH hard to find in Handbo o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; o [2000/06/23] docs/19481 doc Serial Communications chapter in Handbook f [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) o [2000/08/23] docs/20794 doc Request 2 good documents under people.fre o [2000/10/07] docs/21826 doc ARP proxy feature lacks documentation o [2000/10/10] docs/21896 doc Mini-HOWTO for stp driver o [2000/10/26] docs/22333 doc share/doc/smm/07.lpd building moved in 3. f [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2000/11/14] docs/22861 doc newsyslog man page is misleading and inco o [2000/12/04] docs/23292 doc /etc/dumpdates is not documented in secti o [2000/12/11] docs/23488 doc A manpage for section 7 regarding a Toron o [2000/12/14] docs/23559 doc missing manpage for hsearch libc function o [2000/12/22] docs/23767 doc ifconfig(8) manual page does not document o [2001/01/02] docs/24035 doc ptrace(2) PT_STEP incorrect documentation o [2001/01/26] docs/24662 doc too many questions about source managemen o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/02/03] docs/24839 doc fix ether.bridge o [2001/02/05] docs/24869 doc Some text elf.5 is duplicated o [2001/02/05] docs/24887 doc "make -j# installworld" can (will?) fail o [2001/02/06] docs/24923 doc 4.2 Release Errata page has no informatio o [2001/02/11] docs/25000 doc matcd(4) SYNOPSIS is wrong o [2001/02/11] docs/25016 doc symlink(7) manpage says symlinks have no o [2001/02/16] docs/25134 doc Kernel USER_LDT option help incomplete a [2001/02/20] docs/25239 doc fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about o [2001/02/26] docs/25392 doc Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu o [2001/02/26] docs/25405 doc misleading warning from catman(1), etc. o [2001/02/27] docs/25420 doc man page missing important information. o [2001/02/27] docs/25437 doc kernel configs are the only precious file o [2001/02/28] docs/25450 doc remove NCPU from docs o [2001/03/10] docs/25648 doc typos in some manpages (dependant) o [2001/03/10] docs/25657 doc no netid(5) man page o [2001/03/12] docs/25735 doc error in handbook o [2001/03/13] docs/25774 doc incorrect synopsis in vnconfig(8) o [2001/03/16] docs/25876 doc typos in jail.2 o [2001/03/18] docs/25892 doc doc.html.mk: use OpenJade on alpha o [2001/03/19] docs/25919 doc supported hardware list says 'no' for Sou o [2001/03/22] docs/26001 doc typo in sched_get_priority_max.2 f [2001/03/22] docs/26003 doc getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not sy o [2001/03/22] docs/26006 doc Changing zone(9) man page o [2001/03/24] docs/26060 doc No man page for /etc/host.conf o [2001/03/28] docs/26194 doc BSD Family Tree needs updated o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/04/08] docs/26451 doc ctype.h defined functions are not accurat o [2001/04/10] docs/26480 doc shouts in named manpage o [2001/04/10] docs/26489 doc incomplete info in the ppp faq about "PPP o [2001/04/13] docs/26532 doc ".lQ ?" becomes "`'?" through nroff (and o [2001/04/14] docs/26574 doc Incorrect link in individual ports README o [2001/04/14] docs/26579 doc FAQ inconsistency regarding allocating sw 61 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 16 14: 7:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A71437B440 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:07:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arr@watson.org) Received: from localhost (arr@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3GL8SG71980 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:08:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from arr@watson.org) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:08:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew R. Reiter" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: old man pages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, i was randomly thinking about how when a make installworld (or the like)_ is done, it does not take into account old man page versions, does it? By this I mean, things like lkm(4) is pretty damn outdated and unused on a 4.x machine and so it's kind of not a necesity to have it installed or left as installed (from a previous installworld). i would want to have the lkm(4) man page removed if it was still there from a previous installation because it has nothing to do with the current OS context (note, lkm(4) was just used as an example). if im touching on an old topic, i apologize. andrew *-------------................................................. | Andrew R. Reiter | arr@fledge.watson.org | "It requires a very unusual mind | to undertake the analysis of the obvious" -- A.N. Whitehead To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 16 14:16: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984DE37B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:15:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from spike.unixfreak.org (spike [63.198.170.139]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CFD3E28; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:15:58 -0700 (PDT) To: "Andrew R. Reiter" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: old man pages In-Reply-To: ; from arr@watson.org on "Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:08:27 -0400 (EDT)" Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:15:58 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010416211558.59CFD3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Andrew R. Reiter" writes: > i was randomly thinking about how when a make installworld (or the like)_ > is done, it does not take into account old man page versions, does it? By > this I mean, things like lkm(4) is pretty damn outdated and unused on a > 4.x machine and so it's kind of not a necesity to have it installed or > left as installed (from a previous installworld). i would want to have > the lkm(4) man page removed if it was still there from a previous > installation because it has nothing to do with the current OS context > (note, lkm(4) was just used as an example). This problem is not specific to manual pages. The installworld process in general doesn't delete anything. If a program was removed from the source tree, it will stay there until someone deletes it manually. I suppose when someone works out a mechanism to take care of that, man pages would be included, too. The problem as I see it with doing something like that is that it would require old programs to still be listed in some Makefiles. They wouldn't be listed as "SUBDIR+=", but "OLDPROG+=" or something like that. Okay, so let's say someone implements that. When do those lines go away? Next minor release? Next major release? Never? Just food for thought, I guess. Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 16 14:25:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06D137B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:25:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arr@watson.org) Received: from localhost (arr@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3GLOtJ72470; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:24:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from arr@watson.org) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:24:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew R. Reiter" To: Dima Dorfman Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: old man pages In-Reply-To: <20010416211558.59CFD3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dima says: > > This problem is not specific to manual pages. The installworld > process in general doesn't delete anything. If a program was removed > from the source tree, it will stay there until someone deletes it > manually. I suppose when someone works out a mechanism to take care > of that, man pages would be included, too. > > The problem as I see it with doing something like that is that it > would require old programs to still be listed in some Makefiles. They > wouldn't be listed as "SUBDIR+=", but "OLDPROG+=" or something like > that. Okay, so let's say someone implements that. When do those > lines go away? Next minor release? Next major release? Never? > > Just food for thought, I guess. I agree.. it's a tough thing to be black or white on. My example, I think, was a bit to black & white for me because it was an obvious difference (a FreBSD 2.x man page in 4.x on something that does not exactly exist in 4.x). Something I don't know, but might assist in me writing a tool for this would be to know if there is an output file that says what files were installed during an installworld? If there is one, I sould say it would be easy to write a shellscript quickly for doing post-installworld deleting of unknown/old files from selected directories... Again, I agree with you, I am hesitant on finding a good black & white usage for this but would think it to be neat :-) thanks for the comments, andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 16 18:13:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF3A37B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:13:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from spike.unixfreak.org (spike [63.198.170.139]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F3C3E09; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:13:08 -0700 (PDT) To: "Andrew R. Reiter" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: old man pages In-Reply-To: ; from arr@watson.org on "Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:24:55 -0400 (EDT)" Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:13:08 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010417011308.74F3C3E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Andrew R. Reiter" writes: > Something I don't know, but might assist in me writing a tool for this > would be to know if there is an output file that says what files were > installed during an installworld? If there is one, I sould say it would There isn't one per se, but I guess it'd be rather simple to derive something like this from the output of `make installworld`. > be easy to write a shellscript quickly for doing post-installworld > deleting of unknown/old files from selected directories... Then you may end up removing too much. Like it or not, there are many files in /usr (e.g., /usr/bin, etc.), below /usr/local, that are not vendor-distributed. People put all kinds of stuff there. It's not safe to just go through and delete anything that wasn't installed by installworld. Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 16 18:17:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447B437B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:17:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arr@watson.org) Received: from localhost (arr@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3H1ILV75736; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:18:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from arr@watson.org) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:18:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew R. Reiter" To: Dima Dorfman Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: old man pages In-Reply-To: <20010417011308.74F3C3E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Then you may end up removing too much. Like it or not, there are many > files in /usr (e.g., /usr/bin, etc.), below /usr/local, that are not > vendor-distributed. People put all kinds of stuff there. It's not > safe to just go through and delete anything that wasn't installed by > installworld. No sh*t :-) > > Dima Dorfman > dima@unixfreak.org > *-------------................................................. | Andrew R. Reiter | arr@fledge.watson.org | "It requires a very unusual mind | to undertake the analysis of the obvious" -- A.N. Whitehead To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 17 0:17: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3550D37B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:16:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A9D3E28 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:16:55 -0700 (PDT) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Update Users chapter of Handbook (request for review) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:16:55 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010417071655.B1A9D3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've written an update to the Users chapter of the Handbook to talk about resource limits. As far as I know, the latter isn't documented anywhere except login.conf(5), and that's not very new-user-friendly. This lack of documentation often manifests itself as "FreeBSD is vulnerable to fork-bombing" on -questions. Attached is a patch that separates the "limiting and personalizing users" part of the Users chapter into "limiting users", which talks about resource limits (new), and "personalizing users", which just has a link to the localization chapter (old). Comments and suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/users/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2001/01/20 03:35:19 1.5 +++ chapter.sgml 2001/04/17 07:12:17 @@ -397,13 +397,222 @@ - - Limiting and Personalizing Users + + Limiting Users - Quotas allow the system administrator to set disk usage - maximums, and users to check their disk usage, if quotas are - used on the system. Quotas are discussed in their own chapter. + If you run a multi-user system, chances are that you do not trust + all of your users not to damage your system. FreeBSD provides a + number of ways a system administrator can limit the amount of system + resources an individual user can use. These limits are generally + divided into two sections: disk quotas, and other resources + limits. + + Disk quotas are a way for the system administrator to tell the + filesystem the amount of disk space a user may use; moreover, they + provide a way to quickly check on the disk usage of a user without + having to calculate it every time. Quotas are discussed in their own section of the Disks chapter. + + The other resource limits include ways to limit the amount of + CPU, memory, and other resources a user may consume. These are + defined using login classes and are discussed here. + + Login classes are defined in + /etc/login.conf. The precise semantics are + beyond the scope of this section, but are described in detail in the + &man.login.conf.5; manual page. It is sufficient to say that each + user can is assigned to a login class (default by + default), and that each login class has a set of login capabilities + associated with it. A login capability is a + name=value pair, where name is a + well-known identifier and value is an arbitrary string + processed accordingly depending on the name. Setting up login + classes and capabilities is rather straight-forward, and is also + described in &man.login.conf.5;. + + Resource limits are different from plain vanilla login + capabilities in two ways. First, for every limit, there is a soft + (current) and hard limit. A soft limit may be adjusted by the user + or application, but may be no higher than the hard limit. The latter + may be lowered by the user, but never raised. Second, most resource + limits apply per process to a specific user, not the user as a whole. + Note, however, that these differences are mandated by the specific + handling of the limits, not by the implementation of the login + capability framework (i.e., they are not really + a special case of login capabilities). + + And so, without further ado, below are the most commonly used + resource limits (the rest, along with all the other login + capabilities, may be found in &man.login.conf.5;). + + + + coredumpsize + + + The limit on the size of a core file generated by a program + is, for obvious reasons, subordinate to other limits on disk + usage (e.g., filesize, or disk quotas). + Nevertheless, it is often used as a less-severe method of + controlling disk space consumption: since users do not generate + core files themselves, and often do not delete them, setting this + may save them from running out of disk space should a large + program (e.g., Emacs) crash. + + + + + cputime + + + This is the maximum amount of CPU time a user's process may + consume. Offending processes will be killed by the kernel. + + + This is a limit on CPU time + consumed, not percentage of the CPU as displayed in some + fields by &man.top.1; and &man.ps.1;. A limit on the + latter is, at the time of this writing, not possible, and + would be rather useless: a compiler—probably a + legitimate task—can easily use almost 100% of a CPU + for some time. + + + + + + + filesize + + + This is the maximum size of a file the user may possess. + Unlike disk quotas, this limit is + enforced on individual files, not the set of all files a user + owns. + + + + + maxproc + + + This is the maximum number of processes a user may be + running. This includes foreground and background processes + alike. For obvious reasons, this may not be larger than the + system limit specified by the kern.maxproc + sysctl. Also note that setting this too small may hinder a + user's productivity: it is often useful to be logged in + multiple times or execute pipelines. Some tasks, such as + compiling a large program, also spawn multiple processes (e.g., + &man.make.1;, &man.cc.1;, and other intermediate + preproccesors). + + + + + memorylocked + + + This is the maximum amount a memory a process may have + requested to be locked into main memory (e.g., see + &man.mlock.2;). Some system-critical programs, such as + &man.amd.8;, do this so that their getting swapped out does not + contribute to a system's thrashing in time of trouble. + + + + + memoryuse + + + This is the maximum amount of memory a process may consume + at any given time. It includes both core memory and swap + usage. This is not a catch-all limit for restricting memory + consumption, but it is a good start. + + + + + openfiles + + + This is the maximum amount of files a process may have + open. In FreeBSD, files are also used to represent sockets and + IPC channels; thus, be careful not to set this too low. The + system-wide limit for this is defined by the + kern.maxfiles sysctl. + + + + + sbsize + + + This is the limit on the amount of network memory, and thus + mbufs, a user may consume. This originated as a response to an + old DoS attack by creating a lot of sockets, but can be + generally used to limit network communications. + + + + + stacksize + + + This is the maximum size a process' stack may grow to. + This alone is not sufficient to limit the amount of memory a + program may use; consequently, it should be used in conjunction + with other limits. + + + + + There are a few other things to remember when setting resource + limits. Following are some general tips, suggestions, and + miscellaneous comments. + + + + Processes started at system startup by + /etc/rc are assigned to the + daemon login class. + + + + Although the /etc/login.conf that comes + with the system is a good source of reasonable values for most + limits, only you, the administrator, can know what is appropriate + for your system. Setting a limit too high may open your system + up to abuse, while setting it too low may put a strain on + productivity. + + + + Users of the X Window System (X11) should probably be granted + more resources than other users. X11 by itself takes a lot of + resources, but it also encourages users to run more programs + simultaneously. + + + + Remember that many limits apply to individual processes, not + the user as a whole. For example, setting openfiles to 50 means + that each process the user runs may open up to 50 files. Thus, + the gross amount of files a user may open is the value of + openfiles multiplied by the value of + maxproc. This also applies to memory + consumption. + + + + For further information on resource limits and login classes and + capabilities in general, please consult the relevant manual pages: + &man.cap.mkdb.1;, &man.getrlimit.2;, &man.login.conf.5;. + + + + Personalizing Users Localization is an environment set up by the system administrator or user to accommodate different languages, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 17 2:11:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADF837B440 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:11:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3H8HoB31327; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:17:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:17:49 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Andrew R. Reiter" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: old man pages Message-ID: <20010417091749.A31213@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from arr@watson.org on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 05:08:27PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 05:08:27PM -0400, Andrew R. Reiter wrote: > i was randomly thinking about how when a make installworld (or the like)_ > is done, it does not take into account old man page versions, does it? By > this I mean, things like lkm(4) is pretty damn outdated and unused on a > 4.x machine and so it's kind of not a necesity to have it installed or > left as installed (from a previous installworld). i would want to have > the lkm(4) man page removed if it was still there from a previous > installation because it has nothing to do with the current OS context > (note, lkm(4) was just used as an example). >=20 > if im touching on an old topic, i apologize. The confident can do something like this; < after running "make installworld", "mergemaster", and so on > find /bin -name \* -mtime 2 -print | xargs rm which will find all files that haven't been modified in the last two days in /bin and delete them. Since everything that you installed when you ran "make installworld" will have been modified, this should only delete the old stuff. Other candidates for deletion include /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /share N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrb/CsACgkQk6gHZCw343UJAACfYAkq0XLYbfRoEG//UeYUKw+4 rrYAnjeRrImmX8XXdXY2pM/TMQCvPmy2 =MxQ4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 17 2:11:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7DD37B443 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:11:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3H8NLu31378; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:23:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:23:21 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Dima Dorfman Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Update Users chapter of Handbook (request for review) Message-ID: <20010417092321.B31213@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010417071655.B1A9D3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="neYutvxvOLaeuPCA" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010417071655.B1A9D3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:16:55AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:16:55AM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: Good idea. I've got a couple of comments about the markup, but apart from that, go ahead. > + Disk quotas are a way for the system administrator to tell the > + filesystem the amount of disk space a user may use; moreover, they > + provide a way to quickly check on the disk usage of a user without > + having to calculate it every time. Quotas are discussed in + linkend=3D"quotas">their own section of the + linkend=3D"disks">Disks chapter. Quotas are discussed in . > + Login classes are defined in > + /etc/login.conf. The precise semantics are > + beyond the scope of this section, but are described in detail in t= he > + &man.login.conf.5; manual page. It is sufficient to say that each > + user can is assigned to a login class (default = by > + default), and that each login class has a set of login capabilities > + associated with it. A login capability is a > + name=3Dvalue pair, where name is a > + well-known identifier and value is an arbitrary str= ing > + processed accordingly depending on the name. Setting up login > + classes and capabilities is rather straight-forward, and is also > + described in &man.login.conf.5;. A login capability is a=20 name=3Dvalue pair, where name is a well-known identifier and value is an arbitrary string N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrb/WkACgkQk6gHZCw343WbFACgh1//ICd9U21PoU60wxdBryBG 1wMAnAxSEqC1C94zTOL7EblP5Nm+Ek73 =LDeT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 17 5:20:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kontent.kontent.de (KONTENT.KONTENT.De [194.231.46.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122C337B43F for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:20:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@aktiva24.com) Received: from localhost.KONTENT.De (kunden@WWW2.KONTENT.De [194.231.46.232]) by kontent.kontent.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3HCKPN10333 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:20:25 +0200 Message-Id: <200104171220.f3HCKPN10333@kontent.kontent.de> X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@kontent.de Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Neues Internetportal From: webmaster@aktiva24.com X-mail-script: http://www.aktiva24.com/cgi-bin/newsletter.cgi Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:20 +0000 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nach den Ostertagen, die hoffentlich alle gut =FCberstanden haben, melden = wir uns wieder mit einem Newsletter und interessanten Neuigkeiten f=FCr all= e die gerne Wissen m=F6chten, was sich im Internet bewegt und die gerne Wer= bung f=FCr Ihre Website machen. 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Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 17 8:44:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A071337B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:44:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3HFiWZ68300 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:44:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:44:31 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Tree tagging for 4.3 Message-ID: <20010417164431.A68212@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, As per usual, the tagging of the doc/ tree for 4.3 should be a non-event for most of you. Per an earlier message from Jordan, the release should=20 be cut on April 20th. I'll put down the tag shortly, and check that the docs with that tag build properly. Any that don't I'll fix and slide the tag forward as necessary. If you commit something in between the time that the tag goes down, and the release engineers doing the release, please let me know if you would like the tag for that file slid forward to include your change. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrcZN0ACgkQk6gHZCw343U1HwCfXJkrvP1zHC226uQzHefJ7Zij u4MAoIndPbzs0wltKlku/41wQfDg+V5/ =P7bX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 17 11:11:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC6A37B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:11:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dchance@midsouth.rr.com) Received: from mail.midsouth.rr.com (mail.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.1]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3HIBBL00774 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:11:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from satan ([24.165.213.219]) by mail.midsouth.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:11:15 -0500 Message-ID: <001901c0c769$e2282870$0200000a@satan> From: "Daryl Chance" To: Subject: Programmers Documentation Project Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:11:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I was looking through the list of projects to see if one existed for documenting the FBSD code. The closest I came to it was this: http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai/pdp.html Does anyone know if there has been any recent work done on this? the top of this page: http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai/source-overview.txt Has a date of 1999/04/01, a little over 2 years. I say this is the closest, because I was looking for something else, something a little more "thourough", like (I realize this would be a HUGE undertaking) commenting all the functions in the FBSD source and running something like ScanDoc against it or some other auto- matic code documentation programs. Anyone have any suggestions? Offer any help? I thought about this which watching the recent discussion on "VM Balance" on -stable. This would be a great project to start so that someone interested in browsing the FBSD source can see more then just the code, they can see the functions, structs, etc etc and read the comments against those. It may help the people doing work on FBSD to learn more about the source. Thoughts? I'd be willing to help out, or even lead this project. I do think this would take a lot of patience from the -stable people answering our questions about things that they would consider trivial :). I'm only on a Cable connection w/ a K6 333 as my most powerful server, but I can offer up this to see this project get off the ground and to show that theres some interest. I'd also have to learn scandoc or whatever documentation tool we plan on using if theres any interest. Thanks, Daryl Chance To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 17 11:33:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DDE37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:33:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@meow.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from murray@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3HIXc813338; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:33:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:33:38 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Daryl Chance Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Programmers Documentation Project Message-ID: <20010417113338.C11979@meow.osd.bsdi.com> References: <001901c0c769$e2282870$0200000a@satan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001901c0c769$e2282870$0200000a@satan>; from dchance@midsouth.rr.com on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 01:11:53PM -0500 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 01:11:53PM -0500, Daryl Chance wrote: > I was looking through the list of projects to see if one existed > for documenting the FBSD code. The closest I came to it was this: > http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai/pdp.html The Developers Handbook is currently being worked on in the doc tree of our CVS repository. You can download this work in progress and see where we're at with cvsup or anon CVS. > I say this is the closest, because I was looking for something else, > something a little more "thourough", like (I realize this would be > a HUGE undertaking) commenting all the functions in the FBSD source > and running something like ScanDoc against it or some other auto- > matic code documentation programs. By all means, please pick one of the empty chapters and help us get this document off the ground. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 17 12:44:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F71737B43C; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:44:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AD2A125022A; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:44:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3ADC9D2A.5F850029@urx.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:44:42 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tree tagging for 4.3 References: <20010417164431.A68212@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > > Folks, > > As per usual, the tagging of the doc/ tree for 4.3 should be a non-event > for most of you. Per an earlier message from Jordan, the release should > be cut on April 20th. > > I'll put down the tag shortly, and check that the docs with that tag > build properly. Any that don't I'll fix and slide the tag forward as > necessary. > > If you commit something in between the time that the tag goes down, and > the release engineers doing the release, please let me know if you would > like the tag for that file slid forward to include your change. Will the appendix A sections for "Using CVSup" and "Anonymous CVS" have the release tags upgraded to show what people have to use to grap the release. Currently the section on CVS has a tag entry for RELENG_4_2_0_RELEASE but the CVSup section is still back at RELENG_4_1_1_RELEASE. It seems to me that the version that goes on the CDROM should document the release. This means you are sort of ahead of time because it has to be created slightly ahead of the release. Kent > N > -- > FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ > FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ > > --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 17 14:49:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F0937B43E for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3HLnWM36878; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:49:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: dchance@midsouth.rr.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Programmers Documentation Project In-Reply-To: <001901c0c769$e2282870$0200000a@satan> References: <001901c0c769$e2282870$0200000a@satan> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010417144932C.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:49:32 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 15 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Thoughts? I'd be willing to help out, or even lead this project. That one last clause will count for more than anything else you said. :-) The effort is a noble and worthy one, but you must also be willing to sacrifice yourself to a cruel, uncaring and demanding elder god who will break you daily upon the rack in repayment for your labors. In short, you must be the kind of person who is willing to go to insane, masochistic lengths for just the slightest feeling of satisfaction at a job well done. If you are, I say "Welcome aboard, and CHARGE!!" :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 17 15:43:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C2637B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:43:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dchance@midsouth.rr.com) Received: from mail.midsouth.rr.com (mail.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.1]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3HMh3L13972 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:43:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from satan ([24.165.213.219]) by mail.midsouth.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:43:11 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c0c78f$de88ec60$0200000a@satan> From: "Daryl Chance" To: References: <001901c0c769$e2282870$0200000a@satan> <20010417144932C.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: Programmers Documentation Project Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:43:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org so basically, if you want to do it, heres your straight-jacket and path to your favorite editor eh? :) I really would like to do this, but I don't want to do it alone :). What I eventually want, is understanding enough of the code to be able to commit code back to the FBSD community and I figured that commenting code would be an easy way to get in there, tinker with code, without actually breaking anything. Btw, I did check the info you gave me Murray, and it's not what I was looking for :). What I'm lookin for is something like this: http://www.blur.com/blurbeta/Beta/source/maxclasslib/docs/html/index.html and AFAIK, it doesn't exists for FBSD. To any of the commiters to FreeBSD, does this seem useful? Or just wasted time? If it doesn't seem like wasted time to people, I start on it :). One last question, should I follow the -current tree with all the documentation and have it go into -stable when it's MFC'd? Or make my patches against -stable and -current? Thanks, Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Hubbard" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:49 PM Subject: Re: Programmers Documentation Project > > Thoughts? I'd be willing to help out, or even lead this project. > > That one last clause will count for more than anything else you > said. :-) > > The effort is a noble and worthy one, but you must also be willing to > sacrifice yourself to a cruel, uncaring and demanding elder god who > will break you daily upon the rack in repayment for your labors. > > In short, you must be the kind of person who is willing to go to > insane, masochistic lengths for just the slightest feeling of > satisfaction at a job well done. If you are, I say "Welcome aboard, > and CHARGE!!" :-) > > - Jordan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 17 18:20: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBBC37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3I1K1K76697; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from psychotic.aberrant.org (psychotic.aberrant.org [64.81.134.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C53737B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:17:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@psychotic.aberrant.org) Received: (from seth@localhost) by psychotic.aberrant.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA11968; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:17:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from seth) Message-Id: <200104180117.VAA11968@psychotic.aberrant.org> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:17:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Reply-To: seth@psychotic.aberrant.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/26661: Bad href at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26661 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Bad href at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/index.html >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Apr 17 18:20:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Seth >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-20000710-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: www.freebsd.org website, at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/index.html >Description: The link that's referenced by "http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/" on this page has a typo in the actual link. It points to "http://wwww.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com", which doesn't exist. I hope that docs is the right group for webpage issues. I guess it could be advocacy.... >How-To-Repeat: click on the link. >Fix: Change the link to point to www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 17 19: 4:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECA337B422; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:04:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3I24DY79244; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:04:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:04:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104180204.f3I24DY79244@freefall.freebsd.org> To: seth@psychotic.aberrant.org, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26661: Bad href at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Bad href at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/index.html State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Tue Apr 17 19:03:49 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed...thanks for pointing this out! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26661 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 17 19: 8:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from www.mdres.com (www.mdres.com [209.180.205.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2864737B423; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:08:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list-owner@mdres.com) Received: (from petidomo@localhost) by www.mdres.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10680; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:59:05 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: www.mdres.com: petidomo set sender to list-owner@mdres.com using -f Received: from mktg ([209.180.205.202]) by www.mdres.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA10676 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:59:04 -0700 From: "Hamilton Global Management" To: Subject: New CD-ROM Atlas of Russia - all oblasts, krays, and republics Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:59:27 -0700 Message-ID: Reply-To: mktg@mdres.com Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Colleague, Subject: New CD-ROM Atlas of Russia - all oblasts, krays, and republics We have recently acquired a new, unique CD-ROM atlas of the Russian Federation. 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(253) 588-4149 Fax: (253) 588-4366 E-mail: mktg@mdres.com Web: http://www.mdres.com/AtlasCatalog/ -------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 17 22: 2:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8ED37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dchance@midsouth.rr.com) Received: from mail.midsouth.rr.com (mail.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.1]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3I52LL20104; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:02:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from satan ([24.165.213.219]) by mail.midsouth.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with SMTP id com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:02:30 -0500 Message-ID: <002101c0c7c4$dabada50$0200000a@satan> From: "Daryl Chance" To: , "Jordan Hubbard" References: <001901c0c769$e2282870$0200000a@satan> <20010417144932C.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <000701c0c78f$de88ec60$0200000a@satan> Subject: Re: Programmers Documentation Project Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:03:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So does anyone see a use for this type of documentation? I would like to know before I start work on this :). Jordan? > so basically, if you want to do it, heres your straight-jacket > and path to your favorite editor eh? :) > > I really would like to do this, but I don't want to do it alone :). > What I eventually want, is understanding enough of the code to be > able to commit code back to the FBSD community and I figured that > commenting code would be an easy way to get in there, tinker with > code, without actually breaking anything. > > Btw, I did check the info you gave me Murray, and it's not what I > was looking for :). What I'm lookin for is something like this: > http://www.blur.com/blurbeta/Beta/source/maxclasslib/docs/html/index.html > > and AFAIK, it doesn't exists for FBSD. To any of the commiters > to FreeBSD, does this seem useful? Or just wasted time? > > If it doesn't seem like wasted time to people, I start on it :). > > One last question, should I follow the -current tree with all the > documentation and have it go into -stable when it's MFC'd? Or > make my patches against -stable and -current? > > Thanks, > Daryl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jordan Hubbard" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:49 PM > Subject: Re: Programmers Documentation Project > > > > > Thoughts? I'd be willing to help out, or even lead this project. > > > > That one last clause will count for more than anything else you > > said. :-) > > > > The effort is a noble and worthy one, but you must also be willing to > > sacrifice yourself to a cruel, uncaring and demanding elder god who > > will break you daily upon the rack in repayment for your labors. > > > > In short, you must be the kind of person who is willing to go to > > insane, masochistic lengths for just the slightest feeling of > > satisfaction at a job well done. If you are, I say "Welcome aboard, > > and CHARGE!!" :-) > > > > - Jordan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 2:20:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from garm.bart.nl (garm.bart.nl [194.158.170.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7FA37B423; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:20:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.chronias.ninth-circle.org (root@cable.ninth-circle.org [195.38.232.6]) by garm.bart.nl (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f3I9KMi45764; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:20:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.chronias.ninth-circle.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3I9KHw53967; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:20:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:20:16 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Daryl Chance Cc: stable@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Programmers Documentation Project Message-ID: <20010418112016.D45919@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <001501c0c76d$58726ab0$0200000a@satan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <001501c0c76d$58726ab0$0200000a@satan>; from dchance@midsouth.rr.com on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 01:36:40PM -0500 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [20010417 20:56], Daryl Chance (dchance@midsouth.rr.com) wrote: >I just posted this on -doc, but I thought I'd ask you all for >thoughts on this since -stable will probably be the main target >for questions while/if this project is going on. Heh, you could've cc:'d me in the emails. :P >I was looking through the list of projects to see if one existed >for documenting the FBSD code. The closest I came to it was this: >http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai/pdp.html > >Does anyone know if there has been any recent work done on this? >the top of this page: >http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai/source-overview.txt We moved a lot of that to the Developer's Handbook. Nik Clayton just fixed it to the daily doc build and provided soem links towards it on the webpages. >Has a date of 1999/04/01, a little over 2 years. Mea culpa. Real life sucks. :P >I say this is the closest, because I was looking for something else, >something a little more "thourough", like (I realize this would be >a HUGE undertaking) commenting all the functions in the FBSD source >and running something like ScanDoc against it or some other auto- >matic code documentation programs. That was what I was working on. Until I got dragged into a commit bit. I still need to expand on, and include it in the handbook, my newbus doc at people.freebsd.org/~asmodai/newbus-draft.txt >Anyone have any suggestions? Offer any help? I thought about this >which watching the recent discussion on "VM Balance" on -stable. >This would be a great project to start so that someone interested >in browsing the FBSD source can see more then just the code, they >can see the functions, structs, etc etc and read the comments >against those. It may help the people doing work on FBSD to learn >more about the source. Neil Blakey and me have been looking at the GDK project's way of documenting. Looks interesting. >Thoughts? I'd be willing to help out, or even lead this project. >I do think this would take a lot of patience from the -stable people >answering our questions about things that they would consider >trivial :). I'm only on a Cable connection w/ a K6 333 as my most >powerful server, but I can offer up this to see this project get off >the ground and to show that theres some interest. I'd also have >to learn scandoc or whatever documentation tool we plan on using if >theres any interest. All documentation eventually returns to SGML/DocBook. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai .oUo. asmodai@[wxs.nl|freebsd.org] Documentation nutter/C-rated Coder BSD: Technical excellence at its best D78D D0AD 244D 1D12 C9CA 7152 035C 1138 546A B867 Of all that is to come, the Dream has just begun... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 2:44:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FDF37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:44:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3I9bvY82357; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:37:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:37:57 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Murray Stokely Cc: Daryl Chance , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Programmers Documentation Project Message-ID: <20010418103757.A76377@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <001901c0c769$e2282870$0200000a@satan> <20010417113338.C11979@meow.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010417113338.C11979@meow.osd.bsdi.com>; from murray@osd.bsdi.com on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:33:38AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:33:38AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 01:11:53PM -0500, Daryl Chance wrote: > > I was looking through the list of projects to see if one existed > > for documenting the FBSD code. The closest I came to it was this: > > http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai/pdp.html >=20 > The Developers Handbook is currently being worked on in the doc > tree of our CVS repository. You can download this work in progress > and see where we're at with cvsup or anon CVS. Or you can view it on the web, at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ind= ex.html > > I say this is the closest, because I was looking for something else, > > something a little more "thourough", like (I realize this would be > > a HUGE undertaking) commenting all the functions in the FBSD source > > and running something like ScanDoc against it or some other auto- > > matic code documentation programs. You might also want to talk to Rich Morin who is working on "The FreeBSD Browser". He has written a couple of articles about this at http://www.freebsdzine.org/200103/browser.php3 http://www.freebsdzine.org/200104/filetree.php3=20 which sounds like it might be more what you're thinking of. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrdYHMACgkQk6gHZCw343UBVQCeM7HxzHNtSJNy5dXusg3I2lzr C6QAn1pkRf7MpFX52ZJv37AHUsSLNZgJ =wMuR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 3: 3:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-smtpout1.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpout1.email.verio.net [129.250.36.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E50637B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:03:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bokr@accessone.com) Received: from [129.250.38.64] (helo=dfw-mmp4.email.verio.net) by dfw-smtpout1.email.verio.net with esmtp id 14pooS-00023i-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:03:52 +0000 Received: from [63.183.7.123] (helo=gazelle.accessone.com) by dfw-mmp4.email.verio.net with esmtp id 14pooQ-0000qV-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:03:51 +0000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20010418005646.00aef0d0@mail.accessone.com> X-Sender: bokr@mail.accessone.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:03:57 -0700 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: Bengt Richter Subject: Re: Programmers Documentation Project In-Reply-To: <002101c0c7c4$dabada50$0200000a@satan> References: <001901c0c769$e2282870$0200000a@satan> <20010417144932C.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <000701c0c78f$de88ec60$0200000a@satan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 00:03 2001-04-18 -0500, you (Daryl Chance) wrote: >So does anyone see a use for this type of documentation? I would >like to know before I start work on this :). > >Jordan? > > > so basically, if you want to do it, heres your straight-jacket > > and path to your favorite editor eh? :) > > > > I really would like to do this, but I don't want to do it alone :). > > What I eventually want, is understanding enough of the code to be > > able to commit code back to the FBSD community and I figured that > > commenting code would be an easy way to get in there, tinker with > > code, without actually breaking anything. > > > > Btw, I did check the info you gave me Murray, and it's not what I > > was looking for :). What I'm lookin for is something like this: > > http://www.blur.com/blurbeta/Beta/source/maxclasslib/docs/html/index.html > > > > and AFAIK, it doesn't exists for FBSD. To any of the commiters > > to FreeBSD, does this seem useful? Or just wasted time? > > > > If it doesn't seem like wasted time to people, I start on it :). My feeling is that there are multiple separate issues involved: 1) Making pleasant-to-the-eye renderings of the information (e.g. doxygen) 1a) Making alternate "views" of the info available to zoom in/out, etc. 2) Making program data per se available. It seems to me that even with hints in the comments, a (quite-)pretty printer can only go so far. I would ultimately like to tap into the kind of information the compiler supplies as symbolic debug info, and in its warnings, and to reflect conditional choices exercised during a make. IOW, I see automated program documentation as a logical extension of symbolic debug options and listing options for compilers. It might be best to output an intermediate form of the info, rather than generate a particular documentation format directly. 3) Making semantic information available. That's where human commentary comes in. And some kind of standardized tagging syntax can make it possible to integrate it usefully with automated program data. If a big-time effort were to be started, this kind of enhancement to compilers is where I'd personally like to see it go. In combination with a standardized comment-tagging methodology, nicely commented set/use tables, data flow diagrams (think pdf a la circuit diagrams?), etc., could be possible, representing, e.g., the kernel you actually generated, instead of a mass of ill-separated possibilities. As always, refining the concept and checking history before jumping into coding is probably a good idea. There is at least partial precedent in cygnus' source navigator and something called global, as well as doxygen, and I'm sure others, but AFAIK nothing that would reflect conditionals in a make, and exclude (or at least grey out) what's not included (and also dead code?). Enumerating template instantiations and somehow showing hidden object temporaries created and destroyed as a side effect of expression evaluation or parameter passing/result returning could be nice too. Automatically marking pure (no side effects) functions as such might be nice too. And to include compiler-emitted truncation warnings and such via automatically generated comment patches could be useful, if concise. One possibility I see as helping humans document, would be an optional output that could be a series of HTML forms asking for missing information. E.g., if it were standard to specify units for variables in tagged comments, a form would be spit out asking about the item, with a slot for data entry, if no tagged comment were found for the item. Served by Apache with a little CGI scripting to process the inputs, the CGI might even be able to generate directly usable patches to insert comments into the code source. The HTML forms just have to carry enough context-linking info to return back to the CGI script/program. I could envision code documentation collaboration over the net using this kind of mechanism for standard semantic info such as for data, objects, methods, execution control conditions, etc. Of course, manuals and such are still pretty much human labor. Thank you for your time. Regards, Bengt Richter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 3:10: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A531537B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IAA3548678; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104181010.f3IAA3548678@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: docs/26579: FAQ inconsistency regarding allocating swap with vnconfig Reply-To: Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26579; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nik Clayton To: grady@xcf.berkeley.edu Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26579: FAQ inconsistency regarding allocating swap with vnconfig Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:06:56 +0100 --jy6Sn24JjFx/iggw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jordan, On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 11:39:58AM -0700, Steven Grady wrote: > >Synopsis: FAQ inconsistency regarding allocating swap with vnconfig >=20 > >Description: >=20 > According to the FAQ, to swap immediately, you invoke: > vnconfig -ce /dev/vn0c /usr/swap0 swap > But /etc/rc does the following: > vnconfig /dev/vn0b $swapfile && swapon /dev/vn0b >=20 > I'm not sure whether it matters whether you swap on vn0b or > vn0c, but it would cause less confusion if the two were > consistent. >=20 > (I checked with jkh, who said: > Not sure it always matters, but "vn0b" is certainly > more "correct." > ) You added the code to /etc/rc to do this, rev 1.96. Do you recall why you did "vnconfig ... && swapon ..." instead of using the "swap" option to vnconfig? I think it's probably better to bring /etc/rc in to line with the documentation, rather than the other way around (but continuing to use vn0b instead of vn0c. This would make the line vnconfig -ce /dev/vn0b $swapfile swap in /etc/rc. Thoughts? This is something that can be postponed until after 4.3. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --jy6Sn24JjFx/iggw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrdZz8ACgkQk6gHZCw343XM9gCbBhRQCyDmYqLEm9vZu2fUOWcT 9nQAnRXj+p/CtcVv21goxEwRnqh7hmJu =hZap -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jy6Sn24JjFx/iggw-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 8: 0:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C12B37B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IF03Z93881; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from psychotic.aberrant.org (psychotic.aberrant.org [64.81.134.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9BB37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:53:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@psychotic.aberrant.org) Received: (from seth@localhost) by psychotic.aberrant.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13572; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:53:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from seth) Message-Id: <200104181453.KAA13572@psychotic.aberrant.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:53:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Reply-To: seth@psychotic.aberrant.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/26672: Fix various typos in dc(4) manpage; remove redundancies Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26672 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Fix various typos in dc(4) manpage; remove redundancies >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 18 08:00:02 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Seth >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-20000710-STABLE i386 (not quite relevant) >Organization: >Environment: $FreeBSD: /c/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/dc.4,v 1.6.2.4 2001/03/06 19:08:10 ru Exp $ >Description: Various typos in dc(4) manpage. Also, section describing NWAY problems in the PNIC 82c168 chipset repeats itself in BUGS. I made a reference to BUGS in the DESCRIPTION section and removed the details. >How-To-Repeat: man 4 dc >Fix: Patch as follows (diff -u output): --- dc.4 Wed Apr 18 10:35:58 2001 +++ dc.n Wed Apr 18 10:47:41 2001 @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ filtering. .Pp Some clone chips duplicate the 21143 fairly closely while others -only maintain superficial simularities. +only maintain superficial similarities. Some support only MII media attachments. Others use different receiver filter programming @@ -92,7 +92,7 @@ of these chipsets in order to keep special case code to a minimun. .Pp These chips are used by many vendors which makes it -difficult provide a complete list of all supported cards. +difficult to provide a complete list of all supported cards. The following NICs are known to work with the .Nm @@ -153,8 +153,9 @@ Note: the built-in NWAY autonegotiation on the original PNIC 82c168 chip is horribly broken and is not supported by the .Nm -driver at this time: the chip will operate in any speed or duplex -mode, however these must be set manually. +driver at this time (see the +.Nm BUGS +section for more details). The original 82c168 appears on very early revisions of the LinkSys LNE100TX and Matrox FastNIC. .It 10baseT/UTP @@ -206,11 +207,12 @@ A fatal initialization error has occurred. .It "dc%d: watchdog timeout" A packet was queued for transmission and a transmit command was -issued, however the device failed to acknowledge the transmission +issued, but the device failed to acknowledge the transmission before a timeout expired. This can happen if the device is unable to deliver interrupts for some reason, of if there is a problem with -the network connection (cable). +the network connection (cable or network equipment) that results in a loss +of link. .It "dc%d: no memory for rx list" The driver failed to allocate an mbuf for the receiver ring. .It "dc%d: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold" @@ -334,7 +336,7 @@ instead of just the expected one. The .Nm -driver detects this condition and will salvage the frame, however +driver detects this condition and will salvage the frame; however, it incurs a serious performance penalty in the process. .Pp The PNIC chips also sometimes generate a transmit underrun error when @@ -348,7 +350,7 @@ The ADMtek AL981 chip (and possibly the AN985 as well) has been observed to sometimes wedge on transmit: this appears to happen when the driver queues a sequence of frames which cause it to wrap from the end of the -the transmit descriptor ring back to the beginning. +transmit descriptor ring back to the beginning. The .Nm driver attempts to avoid this condition by not queing any frames past Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 8:23:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from unity.copyleft.no (unity.copyleft.no [212.71.72.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E835637B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:23:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johs@unity.copyleft.no) Received: from johs by unity.copyleft.no with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14ptnW-0007cW-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:23:14 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:23:14 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Gr=F8dem?= To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Developers' Handbook Message-ID: <20010418172314.A29210@unity.copyleft.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Copyleft Software AS Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I thought I'd whine a bit about the Developers' Handbook. Section 5.3.2, specifically. Lisp isn't a strictly interpreted language. The various Lisps supported interpreted code, but most real programs are compiled. Sorry if you already knew this, but it seems a lot of people think Lisp is strictly interpreted. Also, I don't think Gnu Common Lisp is the best free Lisp out there. CMU Common Lisp, which is also in FreeBSD-ports, is supposed to be the best of the free ones. (I haven't really tried GNU CL, but I've heard of its shortcomings.) Oh, and the literature-section at the end of the chapter should mention "Ansi Common Lisp" by Paul Graham, I think. (Prentice Hall; ISBN 0133708756, 432 pages. 1 edition, November 2, 1995.) -- johs To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 8:25:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from copland.rowan.edu (copland.rowan.edu [150.250.128.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528A137B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:25:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kilroy@copland.rowan.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by copland.rowan.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA00122 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:25:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: copland.rowan.edu: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Error In Web Page Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:25:44 -0400 Message-ID: <119.987607544@copland.rowan.edu> From: "Dr Nancy's Sweetie" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/ developers-handbook/x1136.html reads (paragraph 1): They first gained widespread notoriety in 1988 with the Moorse Internet worm. The famous Internet Worm of 1988 was written by Robert T. Morris, not "Moorse". Darren F Provine ! kilroy@copland.rowan.edu ! http://www.rowan.edu/~kilroy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 9:13:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F5437B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:13:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3IGCtM40879; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:12:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: dchance@midsouth.rr.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Programmers Documentation Project In-Reply-To: <002101c0c7c4$dabada50$0200000a@satan> References: <20010417144932C.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <000701c0c78f$de88ec60$0200000a@satan> <002101c0c7c4$dabada50$0200000a@satan> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010418091255K.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:12:55 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think any sorts of docs which enhance FreeBSD's approachability (is that a word?) for developers is sorely needed and a good thing. My only suggestion would be that we try to use HTML (as a target format, not a source format of course) whenever possible so that we can leverage off this "WEB" thing I keep hearing about. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 9:50: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5E737B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IGo2B07012; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104181650.f3IGo2B07012@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Jordan Hubbard Subject: Re: docs/26579: FAQ inconsistency regarding allocating swap with vnconfig Reply-To: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26579; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Jordan Hubbard To: nik@freebsd.org Cc: grady@xcf.berkeley.edu, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26579: FAQ inconsistency regarding allocating swap with vnconfig Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:42:11 -0700 Hmmmm (a brief pause as he goes off to read the source to vnconfig). Well blow me, erm, down! I didn't know vnconfig would do the swapon() itself if you used the swap argument. I agree that this should be changed as you say. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 10:43:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0602437B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:43:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryanpek@swbell.net) Received: from mhx800 ([64.219.216.69]) by mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0GC00045913CFN@mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net> for doc@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:40:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:42:10 -0500 From: Ryan Pekarik Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html To: doc@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <001301c0c82e$e57f9b50$45d8db40@mhx800> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0C804.FC570680" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0C804.FC570680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mirrors Could you include the sites speed next to each site.. That would be = great. Thanks mhx ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0C804.FC570680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0C804.FC570680-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 11:13: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3DC37B43C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:12:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dchance@midsouth.rr.com) Received: from mail.midsouth.rr.com (mail.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.1]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3IICfL22691; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:12:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from satan ([24.165.213.219]) by mail.midsouth.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with SMTP id com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:12:50 -0500 Message-ID: <004201c0c833$41e6dcb0$0200000a@satan> From: "Daryl Chance" To: "Jordan Hubbard" Cc: References: <20010417144932C.jkh@osd.bsdi.com><000701c0c78f$de88ec60$0200000a@satan><002101c0c7c4$dabada50$0200000a@satan> <20010418091255K.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: Programmers Documentation Project Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:13:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I think any sorts of docs which enhance FreeBSD's approachability (is > that a word?) for developers is sorely needed and a good thing. Thanks, I'm going to email Jeroen and Neil and see if I can't get started helping them out, or at least sit down over ICQ or IRC and get up to speed :). > My only suggestion would be that we try to use HTML (as a target > format, not a source format of course) whenever possible so that > we can leverage off this "WEB" thing I keep hearing about. :) Oh, you mean that thing Al Gore invented? I was reading (briefly) the info on doxygen and it seems you can give it args to create man pages too! :). Nothing better then going into foo.c and running accross bar() and not see any info, then opening up your fav browser or doing man bar :). I'll have to read more on doxygen and find some other comment -> html utils and see if theres any better ones out there. I'd like to start helping out immeditely but it doesn't look like I will be able to until I find a job and even once I do find a job, I'll more then likely be moving to Atlanta, GA from Memphis, TN. We shall see. Daryl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 11:35:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from www.mdres.com (www.mdres.com [209.180.205.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734FF37B424; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:35:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list-owner@mdres.com) Received: (from petidomo@localhost) by www.mdres.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12674; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:15:44 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: www.mdres.com: petidomo set sender to list-owner@mdres.com using -f Received: from mktg ([209.180.205.202]) by www.mdres.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA12670 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:15:44 -0700 From: "Hamilton Global Management" To: Subject: New CD-ROM Atlas of Russia - all oblasts, krays, and republics Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:16:12 -0700 Message-ID: Reply-To: mktg@mdres.com Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Colleague, Subject: New CD-ROM Atlas of Russia - all oblasts, krays, and republics We have recently acquired a new, unique CD-ROM atlas of the Russian Federation. 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(253) 588-4149 Fax: (253) 588-4366 E-mail: mktg@mdres.com Web: http://www.mdres.com/AtlasCatalog/ -------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 12: 0:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644B537B43C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IJ02A23791; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from gizmo.quizbot.org (blndi6-212-144-233-072.arcor-ip.net [212.144.233.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA45C37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:57:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@gizmo.quizbot.org) Received: (from robert@localhost) by gizmo.quizbot.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f3IIvuK00358; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:57:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from robert) Message-Id: <200104181857.f3IIvuK00358@gizmo.quizbot.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:57:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Robert Drehmel To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/26681: Unnecessary word in `users' chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26681 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Unnecessary word in `users' chapter >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 18 12:00:02 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Robert Drehmel >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD/i386 5.0-CURRENT Found while translating the new revision's changes for the German handbook. >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/users/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -r1.6 chapter.sgml 424c424 < user can is assigned to a login class (default by --- > user is assigned to a login class (default by >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 12: 0:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFDC37B43F for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IJ02P23800; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE6F37B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:59:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IIxDF23722; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:59:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200104181859.f3IIxDF23722@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:59:13 -0700 (PDT) From: jmallett@newgold.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/26682: Support page IRC link Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26682 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Support page IRC link >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 18 12:00:02 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joseph Mallett >Release: na >Organization: xMach Research Group >Environment: na >Description: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html's link to a FAQ question related to IRC points to a non-existing page anchor, shold probably link to the #IRC anchor. Additionally, adding the #FreeBSD/irc.openprojects.net channel might be good, as it tends to be fairly active. >How-To-Repeat: Go to http://www.freebsd.org/support.html and click on the link for the FAQ question related to IRC. Teh current link doesn't even point to the right answer number. >Fix: Link to #IRC rather than #AEN20 in http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#irc for 'the FAQ entry'. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 12:19:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444BE37B42C; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:19:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IJJlY28033; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:19:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:19:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104181919.f3IJJlY28033@freefall.freebsd.org> To: robert@gizmo.quizbot.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26681: Unnecessary word in `users' chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Unnecessary word in `users' chapter State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 18 12:19:33 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Commited, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26681 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 12:33:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C419637B43C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:33:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from spike.unixfreak.org (spike [63.198.170.139]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE883E2B; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:33:35 -0700 (PDT) To: "Dr Nancy's Sweetie" Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error In Web Page In-Reply-To: <119.987607544@copland.rowan.edu>; from kilroy@copland.rowan.edu on "Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:25:44 -0400" Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:33:35 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010418193336.EFE883E2B@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fixed, thanks! "Dr Nancy's Sweetie" writes: > > This page: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/ > developers-handbook/x1136.html > > reads (paragraph 1): > > They first gained widespread notoriety in 1988 with the Moorse > Internet worm. > > The famous Internet Worm of 1988 was written by Robert T. Morris, not > "Moorse". > > > Darren F Provine ! kilroy@copland.rowan.edu ! http://www.rowan.edu/~kilroy > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 12:36:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32D937B424; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:36:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IJaGZ29519; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:36:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:36:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104181936.f3IJaGZ29519@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jmallett@newgold.net, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26682: Support page IRC link Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Support page IRC link State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 18 12:35:58 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Link fixed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26682 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 12:48: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7039E37B42C; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:48:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IJm2k31208; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:48:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:48:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104181948.f3IJm2k31208@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/26672: Fix various typos in dc(4) manpage; remove redundancies Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Fix various typos in dc(4) manpage; remove redundancies Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Apr 18 12:47:51 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll fix this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26672 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 12:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C800A37B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IJo2A31410; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0B837B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:47:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IJlXh31105; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:47:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200104181947.f3IJlXh31105@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:47:33 -0700 (PDT) From: jmallett@newgold.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/26683: Add xMach to Related Projects? Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26683 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Add xMach to Related Projects? >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: wish >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 18 12:50:02 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joseph Mallett >Release: na >Organization: xMach Research Group >Environment: na >Description: I was just wondering if xMach (www.xMach.org) could be added to the list of Related Projects at http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#related, as we are based on Mach4 and BSD LiteS, and are seeking to become a Operating System which incorporates some of the new ideas from FreeBSD as well as other experimental ideas and distributed processing. >How-To-Repeat: na >Fix: xMach a LiteS and Mach4 derivative designed to be small and efficient with extended functionality. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 12:53:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE6637B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:53:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from LAKEADS@aol.com) Received: from LAKEADS@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id n.32.13bafc33 (15869) for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:53:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web44.aolmail.aol.com (web44.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.5]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.37) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:53:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:53:25 EDT From: LAKEADS@aol.com Subject: scsi To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <32.13bafc33.280f4ab8@aol.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was wondering wheather free bsd 4.2 stable supports any of the adaptec u160 cards. I didnt see any of them in the supported hardware list. If not is there any support for other venders u160 cards? I currently have a adaptec 2940uw pro and im assuming that this card will work fine? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 18: 6: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D33D37B424; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:05:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3J15x481031; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:05:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:05:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104190105.f3J15x481031@freefall.freebsd.org> To: y-koga@jp.FreeBSD.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26532: ".lQ ?" becomes "`'?" through nroff (and man) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ".lQ ?" becomes "`'?" through nroff (and man) State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 18 18:05:41 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: These man pages are maintained externally by the OpenSSH folks. It doesn't look like this problem is specific to FreeBSD, so could you please try to get them to apply this stuff and FreeBSD could get it with the next update? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 18: 6:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C7637B424; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:06:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3J16VA81114; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:06:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:06:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104190106.f3J16VA81114@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dpelleg+bsd@cs.cmu.edu, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26480: shouts in named manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: shouts in named manpage State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 18 18:06:07 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Submitter has reported submitting this to the BIND maintainers. Assuming they accept it, FreeBSD will pick this up with the next update. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26480 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 18: 8:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AA337B422; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:08:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3J18uf81466; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:08:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:08:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104190108.f3J18uf81466@freefall.freebsd.org> To: david@mu.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/24887: "make -j# installworld" can (will?) fail with odd messages Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: "make -j# installworld" can (will?) fail with odd messages State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 18 18:08:18 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: I believe this has been remedied with Nik's update to that part of the Handbook. Can you confirm this? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=24887 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 18:13:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1B237B422; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3J1DLG81835; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:13:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104190113.f3J1DLG81835@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwm@mired.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/25890: [PATCH] There's no general guidance on creating cds. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] There's no general guidance on creating cds. State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 18 18:11:00 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: This looks very good except for some of the markup. Unless you plan to expand on it quite a bit, I'd rather make this a section of the Disks chapter rather than a chapter on its own; I think it'd fit in better there. Any objections to the above? If not, I'll fix up some of the markup and commit it. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Apr 18 18:11:00 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take care of this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25890 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 18:28:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FEA37B423; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:28:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3J1So182969; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:28:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:28:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104190128.f3J1So182969@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dozprompt@onsea.com, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/17598: installworld over NFS documentation no longer accurate Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: installworld over NFS documentation no longer accurate State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 18 18:28:31 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Has Nik's recent overhaul of this chapter remedied the issue? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17598 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 18:33:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3A937B424; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:33:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3J1Xpe84192; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:33:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:33:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104190133.f3J1Xpe84192@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dozprompt@onsea.com, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/17598: installworld over NFS documentation no longer accurate Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: installworld over NFS documentation no longer accurate State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 18 18:33:28 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Mail to the originator bounces. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17598 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 18:50: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478EB37B43E for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3J1o5b85791; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from electron.databits.net (electron.databits.net [207.29.204.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F271B37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:40:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petef@electron.databits.net) Received: (from petef@localhost) by electron.databits.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3J1d5O47518; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:39:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from petef) Message-Id: <200104190139.f3J1d5O47518@electron.databits.net> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:39:05 -0400 (EDT) From: petef@databits.net Reply-To: petef@databits.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/26690: Update to ports(7) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26690 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update to ports(7) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 18 18:50:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Pete Fritchman >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386 >Organization: Databits Network Services, Inc. >Environment: System: FreeBSD electron.databits.net 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Thu Apr 12 17:02:53 EDT 2001 root@electron.databits.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ELECTRON i386 >Description: - update a few miswordings - add descriptions for the 'search' and 'index' bsd.port.mk targets >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: Index: ports.7 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man7/ports.7,v retrieving revision 1.21 diff -u -r1.21 ports.7 --- ports.7 2000/12/29 09:18:42 1.21 +++ ports.7 2001/04/19 01:34:28 @@ -92,8 +92,9 @@ .Ar install , and so on all the way to .Ar fetch . -You will usually only target -.Ar install . +Usually, you will only use the +.Ar install +target. .Bl -tag -width configure .It Ar fetch Fetch all of the files needed to build this port from the site(s) @@ -102,7 +103,8 @@ and .Ev MASTER_SITE_OVERRIDE . .It Ar checksum -Verify that the fetched distfile matches the one the port was tested against. +Verify that the fetched distfile's checksum matches the one the port was +tested against. Defining .Ev NO_CHECKSUM will skip this step. @@ -152,7 +154,7 @@ .It Ar distclean Remove the port's distfile(s) and perform the .Ar clean -operation. The +target. The .Sq clean portion recurses to dependencies unless .Ev NOCLEANDEPENDS @@ -186,6 +188,20 @@ This can be used from .Pa /usr/ports to create a browsable web of all ports on your system! +.It Ar search +Search the INDEX file for the keyword specified by the +.Ev KEY +value. Results include the path to the port, a short comment, and the +build and run depends required. +.It Ar index +Create /usr/ports/INDEX, used by the +.Pa pretty-print-* +and +.Pa search +targets. While the master INDEX file in the CVS repository is periodically +updated, running the +.Pa index +target will ensure your INDEX file is up to date with your ports tree. .El .Sh ENVIRONMENT You can change all of these. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 19: 0: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144D837B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3J201s86682; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8419E37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:52:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3J1qL185967; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:52:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200104190152.f3J1qL185967@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:52:21 -0700 (PDT) From: dpelleg+bsd@cs.cmu.edu To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/26692: boot manpage describes bootfile prompt incorrectly Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26692 >Category: docs >Synopsis: boot manpage describes bootfile prompt incorrectly >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 18 19:00:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dan Pelleg >Release: 4.3-RC2 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD p 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #4: Sat Apr 14 09:00:50 EDT 2001 root@k:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/P i386 >Description: boot manpage says to type the following at the boot prompt to boot from a different file bios_drive:interface(unit,part) filename I believe it should be: bios_drive:interface(unit,slice,part) filename and is certainly how it works for me (when I try to boot into slices other than 1). My reading of parse() in sys/boot/i386/boot2/boot2.c seems to concur, but I won't claim I truly understand that piece of code. >How-To-Repeat: man boot >Fix: See above. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 18 19:20:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA93837B440 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3J2KAG91890; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104190220.f3J2KAG91890@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/26690: Update to ports(7) Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26690; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: petef@databits.net Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26690: Update to ports(7) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:19:01 -0700 petef@databits.net writes: > >Fix: > > Index: ports.7 > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man7/ports.7,v > retrieving revision 1.21 > diff -u -r1.21 ports.7 > [...] > @@ -186,6 +188,20 @@ > This can be used from > .Pa /usr/ports > to create a browsable web of all ports on your system! > +.It Ar search > +Search the INDEX file for the keyword specified by the This should be: Search the .Pa INDEX file for the.... > +.Ev KEY ``KEY'' is not an environment variable. Perhaps you could explain that the syntax is `make search name=query' and `make search key=query'. Ideally it wouldn't be too long. > +value. Results include the path to the port, a short comment, and the Please put a newline instead of two spaces at the end of sentences, e.g.: value. Results include the path... > +build and run depends required. > +.It Ar index > +Create /usr/ports/INDEX, used by the > +.Pa pretty-print-* > +and > +.Pa search This should be: Create .Pa /usr/ports/INDEX , which is used by the .Ar pretty-print-* and .Ar search targets. Other than that (and a few other places you made the same errors) it looks pretty good. If you could fix that up I'd appreciate it. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 19 17:10:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697FB37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:10:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3JFiLO99383; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:44:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:44:20 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Gr=F8dem?= Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Developers' Handbook Message-ID: <20010419164420.A99145@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010418172314.A29210@unity.copyleft.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010418172314.A29210@unity.copyleft.no>; from johs@copyleft.no on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:23:14PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:23:14PM +0200, Johannes Gr=F8dem wrote: > I thought I'd whine a bit about the Developers' Handbook. =20 Please, send diffs. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEUEARECAAYFAjrfB9MACgkQk6gHZCw343VFOwCfaSv10Vp8gy5hCc8+p8jSkP2f dnkAmMxlxTiK+N4ZrIlSxISLuS++qx0= =7WXA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 19 17:56:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from union.edu (eliphalet.union.edu [149.106.160.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B797137B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:56:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from baumanj@union.edu) Received: from idol.union.edu (idol.union.edu [149.106.160.18]) by union.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA278525 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:56:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (baumanj@localhost) by idol.union.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA382873 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:56:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: idol.union.edu: baumanj owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:56:29 -0400 (EDT) From: JB To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: art contributions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I would like to contribute some art to the FreeBSD team. I usually work in ink and would like to help out any way that I could. My art is mostly cartoon based but I can be flexible. Please let me know if there is anything that you would like me to do. Thank you, Josh Bauman -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Joshua Bauman - GNU Crusader baumanj@union.edu darwin@darw1n.org www.darw1n.org ______ (\_________/) ( ) \ __ __ / ( werd! ) | @` @ | ( _ _____) \ | / )/ | \_/ | |( --- )| \ - / --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 19 20:52:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41DA37B422; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3K3qOC27495; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:52:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104200352.f3K3qOC27495@freefall.freebsd.org> To: david@mu.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/24887: "make -j# installworld" can (will?) fail with odd messages Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: "make -j# installworld" can (will?) fail with odd messages State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Thu Apr 19 20:52:12 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Patch committed, thanks for the report! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=24887 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 19 22:18:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C94837B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Glenarvan@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 13814 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 2001 05:18:53 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:18:53 +0200 (MEST) From: Sebastian Ryborz To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000285236@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [213.69.137.202] Message-ID: <30392.987743933@www43.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I’ve already read the installation guide and realize that the link to hardware-guide is a dead one… Maybe it’s moved. Greetings Sebastian -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 19 22:56:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D8637B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:56:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from spike.unixfreak.org (spike [63.198.170.139]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D953E09 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:56:01 -0700 (PDT) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Using to make intra-document references Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:56:01 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010420055601.62D953E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had some free time today, and since Nik recently resurrected the sane hierachy on the website I thought I'd take a look at the stuff some people have hinted should be used to make intra-document links. The problem can be divided into two parts: generating the .olink files, and using the .olink files. Generating the files is relatively easy. Basically, we create a DSSSL stylesheet, olink.dsl, and use it instead of freebsd.dsl to generate the .olink file (freebsd.dsl is still used to generated HTML and other stuff, of course). The only problem here is that the options used to generate the olink summary have to be the same ones used to generate the HTML. I.e., if html-ext is ".html" in the olink summary it also better be ".html" in the HTML or things won't work. In my tests I just pasted that stuff into olink.dsl (which looks like default.dsl except s/docbook/olink/g), but I'm sure there's a more elegant way to do that. Using the tag itself is also easy. Essentially, we create a doc-refs.ent file a la man-refs.ent and fill it with stuff that looks like: once that's included into the document, one can do something like this: This is a link to the "Limiting users" section of the FreeBSD Handbook. can still be used to automatically generate the caption, but is not required. Actually, all of the above doesn't work with the stock stylesheets. More specifically, the link generated will be horribly incorrect. This can be remedied by overriding the olink-href procedure. The remaining caveats (problems?) are as follows: - Linking to a specific question in the FAQ doesn't work because /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/olink/olink.dsl, referenced by the new share/sgml/olink.dsl, doesn't understand and friends. - This depends on being able to construct a relative link from one document to another using "../../(book|article)/(document-name)". - The options, such as html-ext, use-id-as-filename, etc., are duplicated in freebsd.dsl and olink.dsl. I don't know how to fix it (I actually know very little about SGML; the only reason I was able to do any this is because some parts of DSSSL resemble Lisp). - The olink file generated for the Handbook contains entities such as & and ö which are not supported. These cause warnings when running jade on a document which links to the Handbook. They're just warnings, and everything else works fine (I think), but it's something we may want to fix. - I probably screwed up the stuff in doc.docbook.mk. It works, but it's probably misplaced. - Generating olink files isn't instantaneous, so it slows down the build a little. I don't think it's a problem. So, without further ado, here are the patches. The first part is the infrastructural stuff, and the second part is an example of how all of it is used (example of linking from ppp-primer to the Handbook). Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org P.S. This is more of a "is-this-how-we-want-to-do-it" than a "tell-me-if-there's-anything-wrong-because-I-want-to-commit-it" type thing. --- /dev/null Thu Apr 19 22:42:32 2001 +++ share/sgml/olink.dsl Thu Apr 19 18:16:33 2001 @@ -0,0 +1,47 @@ + + + +]> + + + + + + + + + + Index: share/sgml/freebsd.dsl =================================================================== RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl,v retrieving revision 1.28 diff -u -r1.28 freebsd.dsl --- share/sgml/freebsd.dsl 2001/04/09 20:35:47 1.28 +++ share/sgml/freebsd.dsl 2001/04/20 05:35:49 @@ -414,6 +414,23 @@ (string-append "Q" (question-answer-label))) (else (string-append "AEN" (number->string (all-element-number nd)))))) + + + (define (olink-href target modespec) + (let* ((linfo (normalize (attribute-string (normalize "localinfo")))) + (sysid (entity-system-id target)) + (basef (trim-string sysid '(".sgml"))) + (based (trim-string basef '("book" "article"))) + (sumdoc (sgml-parse (string-append basef %olink-outline-ext%))) + (root (node-property 'document-element sumdoc)) + (node (if linfo (element-with-id linfo root) root)) + (idfn (attribute-string (normalize "id") node)) + (anchor (if idfn (string-append "#" idfn) "")) + (href (string-append based + (attribute-string (normalize "href") node) anchor))) + href)) Index: share/mk/doc.docbook.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk,v retrieving revision 1.31 diff -u -r1.31 doc.docbook.mk --- share/mk/doc.docbook.mk 2001/03/27 16:15:07 1.31 +++ share/mk/doc.docbook.mk 2001/04/20 05:35:48 @@ -68,6 +68,7 @@ NSGMLS?= ${PREFIX}/bin/nsgmls .endif +DSLOLINK?= ${DOC_PREFIX}/share/sgml/olink.dsl DSLHTML?= ${DOC_PREFIX}/share/sgml/default.dsl DSLPRINT?= ${DOC_PREFIX}/share/sgml/default.dsl FREEBSDCATALOG= ${DOC_PREFIX}/share/sgml/catalog @@ -193,7 +194,13 @@ .MAIN: all -all: ${_docs} +# XXX FIXME +CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.olink + +all: ${DOC}.olink ${_docs} + +${DOC}.olink: ${SRCS} + ${JADE} -ioutput.html ${JADEOPTS} -d ${DSLOLINK} -t sgml ${MASTERDOC} > ${.TARGET} || (rm -f ${.TARGET} && false) index.html HTML.manifest: ${SRCS} ${LOCAL_IMAGES_LIB} ${IMAGES_PNG} .if defined(GEN_INDEX) Index: share/sgml/catalog =================================================================== RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/doc/share/sgml/catalog,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u -r1.14 catalog --- share/sgml/catalog 2001/02/20 19:10:47 1.14 +++ share/sgml/catalog 2001/04/20 05:35:48 @@ -20,6 +20,9 @@ PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Manual Page Entities//EN" "man-refs.ent" +PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Document Entities//EN" + "doc-refs.ent" + PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//DOCUMENT DocBook Stylesheet//EN" "freebsd.dsl" --- /dev/null Thu Apr 19 22:42:32 2001 +++ share/sgml/doc-refs.ent Thu Apr 19 21:07:43 2001 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ + + ********************************************************************** * NEW PATCH FOLLOWS ********************************************************************** Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/ppp-primer/book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/ppp-primer/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.10 diff -u -r1.10 book.sgml --- en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/ppp-primer/book.sgml 2001/04/17 15:58:38 1.10 +++ en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/ppp-primer/book.sgml 2001/04/20 05:35:43 @@ -1,6 +1,9 @@ %man; + + +%doc; ]> @@ -768,8 +771,9 @@ The '/etc/ppp/ppp.conf' file contains the information and settings required to set up a dial-out PPP connection. More than one -configuration may be contained in this file. The FreeBSD handbook -(XXX URL? XXX) describes the contents and syntax of this file in +configuration may be contained in this file. The +FreeBSD Handbook +describes the contents and syntax of this file in detail. This section will describe only the minimal configuration to get a To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 20 2:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A441137B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3K9o1x78905; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from cgmd76206.chello.nl (d9168.upc-d.chello.nl [213.46.9.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DA637B43E for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:40:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edwin@cgmd76206.chello.nl) Received: by cgmd76206.chello.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DACA5236; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:40:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20010420094054.DACA5236@cgmd76206.chello.nl> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:40:54 +0200 (CEST) From: edwin@mavetju.org Reply-To: edwin@mavetju.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/26728: [patch] FreeBSD Developers' Handbook: dumping core Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26728 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] FreeBSD Developers' Handbook: dumping core >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Apr 20 02:50:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Edwin Groothuis >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: - >Environment: $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/developers-handbook/tools/chapter.sgml,v 1.3 2001/04/09 09:26:16 nik Exp $ >Description: The FreeBSD Developers' Handbook talks about one way of dumping core, but there are two more possible ways to do it. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: --- chapter.sgml.old Fri Apr 20 11:25:12 2001 +++ chapter.sgml Fri Apr 20 11:37:15 2001 @@ -978,6 +978,16 @@ infinite loop, for instance. If your program happens to trap SIGABRT, there are several other signals which have a similar effect. + + If you want to create a core dump from inside + your program, you can call the abort() function. See + the man page of abort(3) about this. + + If you want to create a core dump from outside + your program, but doesn't want it to end, you can + use the gcore program. See the man page of gcore(1) + about this. + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 20 5:10:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F7237B423; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3KCAnp10842; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:10:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104201210.f3KCAnp10842@freefall.freebsd.org> To: edwin@mavetju.org, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26728: [patch] FreeBSD Developers' Handbook: dumping core Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [patch] FreeBSD Developers' Handbook: dumping core State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 20 05:10:20 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed with slight modifications, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26728 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 20 7:43:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from adakro.osowa.gda.osk.pl (adakro.osowa.gda.osk.pl [212.244.103.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D7937B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:43:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kontakt@poznajkraj.pl) Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by adakro.osowa.gda.osk.pl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07265 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:44:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200104202044.QAA07265@adakro.osowa.gda.osk.pl> Subject: Ogolnopolski Wortal Turystyczny Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Mime-version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: "www.poznajkraj.pl" Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:44 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OGÓLNOPOLSKI WORTAL KRAJOZNAWCZY HTTP://POZNAJKRAJ.PL TWÓJ PRZEWODNIK PO POLSCE Poznajkraj.pl najdynamiczniej rozwijający się w Polsce profesjonalny wortal, prezentujący kompleksową bazę informacji o wypoczynku, rozrywce i kulturze w naszym kraju. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 20 8:10:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A9437B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3KFA2i37763; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2360B37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:03:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from p@i609.hadiko.de) Received: from nce2.hadiko.de (hadince2.hadiko.uni-karlsruhe.de [172.20.32.2]) by mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14qcRF-0003sK-00; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:03:13 +0200 Received: from i609.hadiko.de (hadii609.hadiko.uni-karlsruhe.de [172.20.44.159]) by nce2.hadiko.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26591 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:03:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from p@localhost) by i609.hadiko.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3KF3AU88659; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:03:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p) Message-Id: <200104201503.f3KF3AU88659@i609.hadiko.de> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:03:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Philipp Mergenthaler To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/26734: cd(4) still mentions block devices. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26734 >Category: docs >Synopsis: cd(4) still mentions block devices. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Apr 20 08:10:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Philipp Mergenthaler >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: University of Karlsruhe >Environment: System: FreeBSD i609.hadiko.de 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #373: Tue Apr 17 20:54:38 CEST 2001 p@i609.hadiko.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/I609 i386 >Description: This man page still mentions block devices, which have been removed some time ago. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- cd.4 2001/02/06 10:39:35 1.22 +++ cd.4 2001/04/20 00:57:21 @@ -413,10 +413,6 @@ .Sh FILES .Bl -tag -width /dev/rcd[0-9][a-h] -compact .It Pa /dev/cd[0-9][a-h] -block mode -.Tn CD-ROM -devices -.It Pa /dev/rcd[0-9][a-h] raw mode .Tn CD-ROM devices >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 20 8:50: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F323B37B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3KFo0c42962; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from gizmo.quizbot.org (blndi5-212-144-192-146.arcor-ip.net [212.144.192.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D481437B43E for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:41:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@gizmo.quizbot.org) Received: (from robert@localhost) by gizmo.quizbot.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f3KFfYh00405; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:41:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from robert) Message-Id: <200104201541.f3KFfYh00405@gizmo.quizbot.org> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:41:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Robert Drehmel To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/26735: Small typo in `users' chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26735 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Small typo in `users' chapter >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Apr 20 08:50:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Robert Drehmel >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD/i386 5.0-CURRENT >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/users/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -r1.7 chapter.sgml 509c509 < preproccesors). --- > preprocessors). >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 20 9: 8:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD4037B43F; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:08:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyboy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dannyboy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3KG8Vh48331; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:08:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyboy) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:08:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104201608.f3KG8Vh48331@freefall.freebsd.org> To: robert@gizmo.quizbot.org, dannyboy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26735: Small typo in `users' chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Small typo in `users' chapter State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dannyboy State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 20 09:08:03 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26735 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 20 9:22:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C0537B424; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:22:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyboy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dannyboy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3KGMkm49780; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:22:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyboy) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:22:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104201622.f3KGMkm49780@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jmallett@newgold.net, dannyboy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26683: Add xMach to Related Projects? Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Add xMach to Related Projects? State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dannyboy State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 20 09:22:24 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Added, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26683 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 20 14: 9:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D8437B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:09:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3KL9pG90307 for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:09:53 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:09:42 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: [CFR] Please review my English Message-ID: <20010421010938.A90298@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- chapter.sgml.bak Fri Apr 20 16:25:12 2001 +++ chapter.sgml Sat Apr 21 00:53:23 2001 @@ -423,13 +423,18 @@ - A workaround for expanding 8-bit to 9-bit on a VGA adapter - is usually needed for the above settings. This workaround - disables 8-bit to 9-bit expansion of the font character with the - mouse cursor the sc0 console driver. To enable the workaround, - insert the following line into the kernel config. + By default mouse cursor of syscons console driver occupes + 0xd0-0xd4 range in the character set. In case your language use + this range, you need to move mouse cursor range start outside + of it. To enable the workaround for the FreeBSD versions pre-5.x, + insert the following line into your kernel config: - options SC_MOUSE_CHAR=0x03 + options SC_MOUSE_CHAR=0x03 + + For the FreeBSD versions 5.x and up insert the following line + into /etc/rc.conf: + + mousechar_start=3 The keymap_name here is taken from the /usr/share/syscons/keymaps directory, @@ -704,10 +709,15 @@ - Add the following to your kernel configuration - file: + For the FreeBSD versions pre-5.x add the following line to + your kernel configuration file: options SC_MOUSE_CHAR=0x03 + + For the FreeBSD versions 5.x and up insert the following + line into /etc/rc.conf: + + mousechar_start=3 -- Andrey A. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 20 14:32:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C77A37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:32:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from spike.unixfreak.org (spike [63.198.170.139]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99483E35; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:32:52 -0700 (PDT) To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFR] Please review my English In-Reply-To: <20010421010938.A90298@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on "Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:09:42 +0400" Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:32:52 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010420213252.D99483E35@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: [CFR] Please review my English ^^^^^^^ Just out of curiosity, what does this stand for? I'm guessing 'FR' is 'for review'. "Andrey A. Chernov" writes: > + By default mouse cursor of syscons console driver occupes > + 0xd0-0xd4 range in the character set. In case your language use > + this range, you need to move mouse cursor range start outside > + of it. To enable the workaround for the FreeBSD versions pre-5.x, > + insert the following line into your kernel config: How about this: By default the mouse cursor of the syscons driver occupies the 0xd0-0xd4 range in the character set. In case your language uses this range, you need to move the cursor's range outside of it. To enable the workaround for FreeBSD versions before 5.0, insert the following lines into your kernel config: > + For the FreeBSD versions 5.x and up insert the following line > + into /etc/rc.conf: I think you're missing a tag here. > + For the FreeBSD versions 5.x and up insert the following > + line into /etc/rc.conf: The rest looks okay English- and markup- wise as far as I can tell. Please be sure to run `make lint` before committing this to be sure that you won't break the doc build. Thanks! Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 20 14:49:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C4F37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:49:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3KLnAO90867; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:49:10 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:49:08 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Dima Dorfman Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFR] Please review my English Message-ID: <20010421014907.B90596@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010421010938.A90298@nagual.pp.ru> <20010420213252.D99483E35@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010420213252.D99483E35@bazooka.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 02:32:52PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 14:32:52 -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > Subject: Re: [CFR] Please review my English > ^^^^^^^ > Just out of curiosity, what does this stand for? I'm guessing 'FR' is > 'for review'. 'C' means call. Thanx! -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 20 15:58:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED1937B43E; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:58:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3KMwXZ01569; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:58:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:58:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104202258.f3KMwXZ01569@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26734: cd(4) still mentions block devices. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: cd(4) still mentions block devices. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 20 15:57:31 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26734 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 20 17:20: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE3537B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3L0K2L12684; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104210020.f3L0K2L12684@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Pete Fritchman Subject: Re: docs/26690: Update to ports(7) Reply-To: Pete Fritchman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26690; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Pete Fritchman To: Dima Dorfman Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/26690: Update to ports(7) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:12:38 -0400 ++ 18/04/01 19:20 -0700 - Dima Dorfman: | The following reply was made to PR docs/26690; it has been noted by GNATS. | Thanks for your constructive comments, here's another go at it. The one thing I was unsure of is when I was giving an example of make search, I used: +.Bd -literal -offset indent +cd /usr/ports && make search name=query +.Ed +.Pp Is that the best way to give an example command? Thanks! -- Pete Fritchman Databits Network Services, Inc. finger petef@databits.net for PGP key [ also available http://hex.databits.net/~petef/freebsd/ports.7.diff ] Index: ports.7 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man7/ports.7,v retrieving revision 1.21 diff -u -r1.21 ports.7 --- ports.7 2000/12/29 09:18:42 1.21 +++ ports.7 2001/04/21 00:00:46 @@ -92,8 +92,9 @@ .Ar install , and so on all the way to .Ar fetch . -You will usually only target -.Ar install . +Usually, you will only use the +.Ar install +target. .Bl -tag -width configure .It Ar fetch Fetch all of the files needed to build this port from the site(s) @@ -102,7 +103,8 @@ and .Ev MASTER_SITE_OVERRIDE . .It Ar checksum -Verify that the fetched distfile matches the one the port was tested against. +Verify that the fetched distfile's checksum matches the one the port was +tested against. Defining .Ev NO_CHECKSUM will skip this step. @@ -152,7 +154,8 @@ .It Ar distclean Remove the port's distfile(s) and perform the .Ar clean -operation. The +target. +The .Sq clean portion recurses to dependencies unless .Ev NOCLEANDEPENDS @@ -186,6 +189,36 @@ This can be used from .Pa /usr/ports to create a browsable web of all ports on your system! +.It Ar search +Search the +.Pa INDEX +file for the pattern specified by either the +.Pa key +(searches the port name, comment, and depends) or +.Pa name +(just searches the port name) make argument. +For example, one would type +.Bd -literal -offset indent +cd /usr/ports && make search name=query +.Ed +.Pp +to find all ports whose +name matches +.Pa query . +Results include the matching ports' path, comment, maintainer, build depends, +and run depends. +.It Ar index +Create +.Pa /usr/ports/INDEX , +which is used by the +.Ar pretty-print-* +and +.Ar search +targets. +While the master INDEX file in the CVS repository is periodically +updated, running the +.Pa index +target will ensure your INDEX file is up to date with your ports tree. .El .Sh ENVIRONMENT You can change all of these. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 20 18:48:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A9937B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:48:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3L1lqM56548; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:47:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: baumanj@union.edu Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: art contributions In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010420184752R.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:47:52 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 11 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Josh, We can always use good artwork featuring the BSD daemon. Would you have any URLs pointing to work that we can look at? It's kind of hard to judge or comment on the merits of your suggestion without knowing various important details, like such as whether you draw in the style of Bill Watterson or Picasso. :) Thanks, - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 21 4:30:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD2B37B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3LBU2X15138; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from cgmd76206.chello.nl (d9168.upc-d.chello.nl [213.46.9.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630A837B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:24:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edwin@cgmd76206.chello.nl) Received: by cgmd76206.chello.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BBD1D34C; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:24:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20010421112402.BBD1D34C@cgmd76206.chello.nl> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:24:02 +0200 (CEST) From: edwin@mavetju.org Reply-To: edwin@mavetju.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/26743: developers-handbook: makefiles and depend Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26743 >Category: docs >Synopsis: developers-handbook: makefiles and depend >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Apr 21 04:30:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Edwin Groothuis >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: - >Environment: $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/developers-handbook/tools/chapter.sgml,v 1.3 2001/04/09 09:26:16 nik Exp $ >Description: My experience on mailing-lists is that people not fully understand that if you change an include-file you also should recompile the C-file. To prevent makefiles from growing larger and unmaintainable, gcc has the option to create dependancies automaticly. This text informs people about the traps you could fall into if you're not carefully maintaining your include-file dependancies and on how to prevent this from happening. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: --- chapter.sgml.old Fri Apr 20 14:50:17 2001 +++ chapter.sgml Sat Apr 21 13:15:35 2001 @@ -1146,6 +1146,55 @@ + Make and include-files + + C code often starts with a list of files to include, for + example stdio.h. Some of these files are system-include + files, some of them are from the project you're now working + on: + + + #include <stdio.h> +#include "foo.h" + +int main(.... + + To make sure that this file is recompiled the moment + foo.h is changed, you have to add it in + your Makefile: + + foo: foo.c foo.h + + The moment your project is getting bigger and you have + more and more own include-files to maintain, it will be a + pain to keep track of all include files and the files which + are depending on it. If you change an include-file but + forget to recompile all the files which are depending on + it, the results will be devastating. gcc + has an option to analyze your files and to produce a list + of include-files and their dependencies: . + + + If you add this to your Makefile: + + depend: + gcc -E -MM *.c > .depend + + and run make depend, the file + .depend will appear with a list of + object-files, C-files and the include-files: + + foo.o: foo.c foo.h + + If you change foo.h, next time + you run make all files depending on + foo.h will be recompiled. + + Don't forget to run make depend each + time you add an include-file to one of your files. + + + FreeBSD Makefiles Makefiles can be rather complicated to write. Fortunately, >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 21 10: 3:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (unknown [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF9937B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:03:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA18191 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 03:13:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 03:13:40 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: FAQ recommends older Nemeth book Message-ID: <20010422031337.C4964@welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/preface.html (as viewed just now) the last book listed under #BOOKS is very good, but our information about it is out of date. I will outline the changes and then quote the section below, but I'm not in a position to actually author the change. Is someone else familiar with the book and with the USA price, who has remembered never to lend out a good book, who could check details and throw a few words into a diff? Changes: The current edition is the third edition, which has a different coloured cover. (Sorry, I don't have one handy) Some of the book's topics have been added and deleted, which could be important to know. The price would not be the same any more. ISTR paying about $150 for it here in Australia, but I couldn't guess what it costs elsewhere. The book doesn't come with a CDROM any more, so it doesn't offer any of the software it mentions, but it does have a web site for downloading example policy docs etc. I don't recall whether or not any of its other authors have changed. A big difference is that in the third edition everything is explained in terms of four representative types of unix, FreeBSD being one of them. That makes it an excellent resource for learning about Unix admin in general while working with FreeBSD, as well as a being a valuable reference for all admins. > A good book on system administration is: > > Evi Nemeth, Garth Snyder, Scott Seebass & Trent R. Hein, `Unix System > Administration Handbook'', Prentice-Hall, 1995 ISBN: > 0-13-151051-7 > > Note: Make sure you get the second edition, with a red cover, > instead of the first edition. > > > > This book covers the basics, as well as TCP/IP, DNS, NFS, SLIP/PPP, > sendmail, INN/NNTP, printing, etc.. It's expensive (approx. > US$45-$55), but worth it. It also includes a CDROM with the sources for > various tools; most of these, however, are also on the FreeBSD > 2.2.6R CDROM (and the FreeBSD CDROM often has newer versions). The FreeBSD Handbook has a one line listing for this book. It will also need the edition changed from 2 to 3. PS If you ever take this book to work, I suggest putting a plain paper cover on it with "Writing SGML with ed" on the front so that it doesn't wander :-) -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 21 17:29:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34EF37B422; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:29:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3M0TI214400; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:29:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:29:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104220029.f3M0TI214400@freefall.freebsd.org> To: petef@databits.net, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/26690: Update to ports(7) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update to ports(7) State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Apr 21 17:28:53 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed to -current, thanks! I'll MFC this in a few days. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Apr 21 17:28:53 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: My MFC reminder. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26690 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message