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>Number:         27854
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Nested <a> elements in en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Jun 03 07:40:00 PDT 2001
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>Originator:     setantae@submonkey.net
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386
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>Environment:
System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.hounds 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #1: Mon May 28 22:04:16 BST 2001 root@rhadamanth.hounds:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386


	
>Description:
	The FreeBSD Documentation Project Primer for New Contributors contents
	page contains nested <a> elements which causes confusion when parsed
	(both by myself and by Netscape :).

	The offending sections are items 3-6 and 3-7 in
	en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html - I include the relevant
	HTML below :

          <dt>3-6. <a href=
          "sgml-primer-elements.html#SGML-PRIMER-ENVARS"><tt class=
          "FILENAME">.profile</tt>, for <a href=
          "http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=sh&amp;sektion=1">
          <span class="CITEREFENTRY">sh(1)</span></a> and <a href=
          "http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bash&amp;sektion=1">
          <span class="CITEREFENTRY">bash(1)</span></a>
          users</a></dt>

          <dt>3-7. <a href="sgml-primer-elements.html#AEN443"><tt
          class="FILENAME">.login</tt>, for <a href=
          "http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=csh&amp;sektion=1">
          <span class="CITEREFENTRY">csh(1)</span></a> and <a href=
          "http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=tcsh&amp;sektion=1">
          <span class="CITEREFENTRY">tcsh(1)</span></a>
          users</a></dt>

>How-To-Repeat:
	Visit http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html
	and view the source.

>Fix:
	I do not currently have the sources for doc/ installed, so cannot submit a
	patch, but the HTML should probably look like this instead :

          <dt>3-6. <a href=
          "sgml-primer-elements.html#SGML-PRIMER-ENVARS"><tt class=
          "FILENAME">.profile</tt></a>, for <a href=
          "http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=sh&amp;sektion=1">
          <span class="CITEREFENTRY">sh(1)</span></a> and <a href=
          "http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bash&amp;sektion=1">
          <span class="CITEREFENTRY">bash(1)</span></a>
          users</dt>

          <dt>3-7. <a href="sgml-primer-elements.html#AEN443"><tt
          class="FILENAME">.login</tt></a>, for <a href=
          "http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=csh&amp;sektion=1">
          <span class="CITEREFENTRY">csh(1)</span></a> and <a href=
          "http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=tcsh&amp;sektion=1">
          <span class="CITEREFENTRY">tcsh(1)</span></a>
          users</dt>

	I'm still reading the Primer and am still not quite sure what the DocBook
	would look like.  Sorry.
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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Synopsis: Nested <a> elements in en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html

Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd
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Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Jun 3 07:42:18 PDT 2001
Responsible-Changed-Why: 
dd is working on this

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27854

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Hi,

Module documentation example has a a problem. In the
example, the last line has 

DECLARE_MODULE(skeleton, skel_loader, SI_SUB_KLD,
SI_ORDER_ANY);

This is wrong, it should be 

*******************************************************
struct moduledata mydata = { "skeleton", skel_loader);
DECLARE_MODULE(skeleton, mydata, SI_SUB_KLD,
SI_ORDER_ANY);
*******************************************************

NOTE:
Although the documentation by Andrew Reiter says that
second field is a pointer to the structure moduledata,
pointer actually did not work. I had to pass the
structure as the argument.


Pankaj Chhabra
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Hello, i would like to translate any document to spanish, if there's any
chance give me a buzz please.

- guido


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On Thursday 31 May 2001 15:18, Nik Clayton wrote:
> On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 10:46:41AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote:
> > On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:02:39PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
> > >  * I can't shake the nagging feeling that this should be in the
> > >    Handbook, maybe with a slight reorganisation. . .
> >
> >   I completely agree.
>
> FWIW, attached is
>
> 1.  A patch to doc.images.mk to allow for .scr files in the IMAGES
> variable.
>
> 2.  A new Makefile.
>
> 3.  A few .scr files as proof of concept.  You'll need scr2png
> installed.
>
> Does someone want to take responsibility for generating the rest of the
> .scr files?

I've got things patched up and working (cool!) so I'll be able to generate 
the .scr images as needed. Thanks for putting these new tools in place.

Now I'll go bury myself for awhile in sgml and some reorganizing ;-)

Randy

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Murray Stokely has recently pointed me to the SGML source of my
assembly language tutorial as a chapter in the FreeBSD Developers
Handbook.

I have since updated the tutorial. While I wrote it in a language
of my own design, I have now adjusted the language software so it
can produce both HTML as seen on http://www.int80h.org/bsdasm/
and SGML in the format Murray has shown me.

The idea is that whenever I update my tutorial, I can also update
my chapter in the developers handbook at the same time.

However, this is the first time I am dealing with SGML, so I would
like to get some input:

- First, I would appreciate if someone could take a look at
  the SGML and tell me if it is correct.

- Second, I need to know how to officially submit future
  additions to the chapter.

- Third, I need to know how to refer to other parts of the same
  handbook. I mean parts written by someone else. I noticed
  the handbook uses some very cryptic labels, such as AEN5339.
  How do I know the proper label for some other sect[123]?

Anyway, the SGML is at http://www.int80h.org/bsdasm/x86.sgml
and is updated automatically when I change the tutorial (it
is actually a CGI program that converts it to SGML on the fly).

Adam

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   Well, I'm going to try and start working on the FAQ now.  So
I'm going to start by making it all actually questions and
answers (rather than a vague phrases which include obscure error
messages).  My first step was to make all the stuff between
<question> tags into actual questions.  This is really more of a
style thing, but it's a good place to start.

   Note that there will be a second commit after this one to
match the answers to the questions which have been changed if
necessary.

   Please give me suggestions or reviews as to what needs to
change with my patch.

     http://people.freebsd.org/~chris/faq-question.patch

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Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> writes:
>    Well, I'm going to try and start working on the FAQ now.  So
> I'm going to start by making it all actually questions and
> answers (rather than a vague phrases which include obscure error
> messages).  My first step was to make all the stuff between
> <question> tags into actual questions.  This is really more of a
> style thing, but it's a good place to start.
> 
>    Note that there will be a second commit after this one to
> match the answers to the questions which have been changed if
> necessary.
> 
>    Please give me suggestions or reviews as to what needs to
> change with my patch.
> 
>      http://people.freebsd.org/~chris/faq-question.patch

I haven't read through the whole thing, but so far it looks good.
Please make sure to properly indent continuation lines though.  E.g.:

	@@ -1027,8 +1027,8 @@
	
	       <qandaentry>
	         <question id="translation">
	-          <para>I'd like to translate the documentation into
	-            Friesian.</para>
	+          <para>What do I need to do to translate a FreeBSD document into
	+          my native language?</para>
	         </question>

The second added line should be indented by two spaces.

Also, what happened to your plans to reorganize the FAQ?  You were
going to do this after 4.3-RELEASE, but it never happened.  Are you
still planning to do that?  If so, when?

Thanks,

					Dima Dorfman
					dima@unixfreak.org

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From: Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com>
Subject: Re: FAQ patch #1: Repairing all the stuff between <question> tags
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On Sunday, June 03, 2001, Dima Dorfman wrote:
> I haven't read through the whole thing, but so far it looks good.
> Please make sure to properly indent continuation lines though.  E.g.:

   That appears to be a fluke due to one line being all spaces
and one line having a tab with four spaces.  What is the accepted
method of indenting?  I see mostly every 8 spaces being converted
into a tab.  Should this be done in the FAQ as well?

> Also, what happened to your plans to reorganize the FAQ?  You were
> going to do this after 4.3-RELEASE, but it never happened.  Are you
> still planning to do that?  If so, when?

   I'm starting on that now.  I'm trying to make it decent first,
before I start moving around chunks of it.

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Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> writes:
> On Sunday, June 03, 2001, Dima Dorfman wrote:
> > I haven't read through the whole thing, but so far it looks good.
> > Please make sure to properly indent continuation lines though.  E.g.:
> 
>    That appears to be a fluke due to one line being all spaces
> and one line having a tab with four spaces.  What is the accepted
> method of indenting?  I see mostly every 8 spaces being converted
> into a tab.  Should this be done in the FAQ as well?

Ideally sets of eight spaces at the beginning of a line would be
replaced with a tab.  Most of the documents follow this rule, but the
FAQ does not; it's all space-indented.  You'll have to ask someone
else (probably Nik) whether it's appropriate to convert those lines to
tabs in one shot, but right now at least maintain consistency and use
spaces to indent.

> 
> > Also, what happened to your plans to reorganize the FAQ?  You were
> > going to do this after 4.3-RELEASE, but it never happened.  Are you
> > still planning to do that?  If so, when?
> 
>    I'm starting on that now.  I'm trying to make it decent first,
> before I start moving around chunks of it.

Great, thanks!

					Dima Dorfman
					dima@unixfreak.org


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On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:51:27PM -0500, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
> I have since updated the tutorial. While I wrote it in a language
> of my own design, I have now adjusted the language software so it
> can produce both HTML as seen on http://www.int80h.org/bsdasm/
> and SGML in the format Murray has shown me.

   What is the nature of this source language that you have created?
Why not use SGML as the source language?  There is a very powerful
software package that allows you to convert SGML files to many
different formats (jade) and a rich assortment of pre-made stylesheets
for the DocBook DTD (used by the FreeBSD Documentation Project).
For example, we can easily produce PDF, PostScript, TeX, ASCII, or
HTML versions of your assembly language chapter in the Developer's
Handbook from the SGML source by simply typing "make FORMATS=pdf ..."

> - First, I would appreciate if someone could take a look at
>   the SGML and tell me if it is correct.

   After a quick glance I see a couple of minor errors.  The easiest
way to spot them all is to checkout a copy of the developers
handbook and then remove x86/chapter.sgml and replace that file with
your x86.sgml and then try to make the handbook.  The first error is
because <note> can't contain character data (must use
<note><para>..</para></note> or similar).  The second error is from
incorrectly using the <example> tag.

   If you are really determined to use your own format and
automatically generate SGML, then it would be very helpful if you
could alter your script to follow our indentation style for
readability.

> - Second, I need to know how to officially submit future
>   additions to the chapter.

  You can send them to this list or me personally and I'll review and
commit it.

> - Third, I need to know how to refer to other parts of the same
>   handbook. I mean parts written by someone else. I noticed
>   the handbook uses some very cryptic labels, such as AEN5339.
>   How do I know the proper label for some other sect[123]?

  I'll let someone else answer this one since I don't remember off the
top of my head.  I think you refer to the id of the section you want
to point to in an <xlink> but I'll let someone else answer
definitively.  Most of my work with SGML/DSSSL is with my own DTDs, so
my knowledge of DocBook isn't the greatest.  I usually just copy from
somewhere else in the handbook.

http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/sgml.html

> Anyway, the SGML is at http://www.int80h.org/bsdasm/x86.sgml
> and is updated automatically when I change the tutorial (it
> is actually a CGI program that converts it to SGML on the fly).

  Looks good but I'm mostly curious what you're converting from and if
it wouldn't be easier for yourself and everyone else to just maintain
the document in SGML.

    - Murray

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On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 10:09:25PM -0500, Chris Costello wrote:
>    Please give me suggestions or reviews as to what needs to
> change with my patch.
>=20
>      http://people.freebsd.org/~chris/faq-question.patch

 * In the IBM Thinkpad question, I wouldn't remove the "A, T, or X series"
   from the question text.

 * "How come I cannot install from tape?"  ->  "Why can I not install
   from tape?"

   That occurs in a couple of places (in some of "Why does" would be
   better replacement text.

 * "<literal>Missing Operating System</literal>" -> "<errorname>..."

   There are several areas where "<literal>" should become "<errorname>"

   I'll add "Produce a 'table of error messages'" to my list of things
   to do.

 * "<literal>F?</literal> prompt" -> "<prompt>F?</prompt> prompt"

Apart from those nits, great.

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The following reply was made to PR docs/27843; it has been noted by GNATS.

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Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:38:30 +0300

 These should probably go into the ports(7) manpage.
 
 On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 01:53:04AM -0000, mwm@mired.org wrote:
 > 
 > The various WITH_* and WITHOUT_* variables in the ports make system
 > aren't documented.
 [...]
 
 
 
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> On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 01:53:04AM -0000, mwm@mired.org wrote:
> Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.ORG> types:
> > The various WITH_* and WITHOUT_* variables in the ports make system
> > aren't documented.
> These should probably go into the ports(7) manpage.

Possibly true. On the other hand, there's a lot of things in the
make.conf man page that should go there as well, and a lot of
duplication between the two.

Someone should decide which of the two pages they belong in (*), merge
them into one place with an appropriate replacement in the other, and
add a reference to make.conf(7) to ports(7). I'm willing to do the
work; I just want to make sure it goes in the right place before
starting.

	<mike

*) I'd vote for putting them in make.conf(7), as doing so would help fix
one of the bugs on the ports(7) man page: "This man page is too long."
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From: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
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 > On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 01:53:04AM -0000, mwm@mired.org wrote:
 > Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.ORG> types:
 > > The various WITH_* and WITHOUT_* variables in the ports make system
 > > aren't documented.
 > These should probably go into the ports(7) manpage.
 
 Possibly true. On the other hand, there's a lot of things in the
 make.conf man page that should go there as well, and a lot of
 duplication between the two.
 
 Someone should decide which of the two pages they belong in (*), merge
 them into one place with an appropriate replacement in the other, and
 add a reference to make.conf(7) to ports(7). I'm willing to do the
 work; I just want to make sure it goes in the right place before
 starting.
 
 	<mike
 
 *) I'd vote for putting them in make.conf(7), as doing so would help fix
 one of the bugs on the ports(7) man page: "This man page is too long."
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On Monday, June 04, 2001, Nik Clayton wrote:
>  * In the IBM Thinkpad question, I wouldn't remove the "A, T, or X series"
>    from the question text.

   Check.

>  * "How come I cannot install from tape?"  ->  "Why can I not install
>    from tape?"

   Check.

>  * "<literal>Missing Operating System</literal>" -> "<errorname>..."
> 
>    There are several areas where "<literal>" should become "<errorname>"

   Check.

>  * "<literal>F?</literal> prompt" -> "<prompt>F?</prompt> prompt"

   Check.

   I've updated the patch on http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/faq-question.patch
if you want to look over it one more time before it goes in.

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Synopsis: change layout and content of kernel building so it's easier to understand

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Dan tells me to kill this.


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Murray's dealt with most of this:

On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:51:27PM -0500, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
> - Third, I need to know how to refer to other parts of the same
>   handbook. I mean parts written by someone else. I noticed
>   the handbook uses some very cryptic labels, such as AEN5339.
>   How do I know the proper label for some other sect[123]?

See

    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/x1266.html=
#AEN2071

for details.

N
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On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Guido Fortunati wrote:

> Hello, i would like to translate any document to spanish, if there's any
> chance give me a buzz please.

Hi Guido,

Please, subscribe to doc@es.freebsd.org mailing list. That's the place
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On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 02:23:22AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote:
>   What is the nature of this source language that you have created?
>Why not use SGML as the source language?  There is a very powerful
>software package that allows you to convert SGML files to many
>different formats (jade) and a rich assortment of pre-made stylesheets
>for the DocBook DTD (used by the FreeBSD Documentation Project).

Unfortunately, every time I try using jade, it crashes. Originally,
I was going to write the tutorial in DocBook, but was never able to
compile it.

I always figured I did not have enough memory for jade (I had 8 Meg),
but recently I received an extra 32 Meg from Brett. So, now I have
40 Meg and it still crashes.

E.g., right now I went to the directory where I have the cvsupped
source for the developers handbook, typed "make" and, sure enough,
jade exited on signal 11.

>For example, we can easily produce PDF, PostScript, TeX, ASCII, or
>HTML versions of your assembly language chapter in the Developer's
>Handbook from the SGML source by simply typing "make FORMATS=pdf ..."

Hmmm... So, it may not be the darn memory after all! I have just
typed "make FORMATS=html" and that worked!

>   After a quick glance I see a couple of minor errors.  The easiest
>way to spot them all is to checkout a copy of the developers
>handbook and then remove x86/chapter.sgml and replace that file with
>your x86.sgml and then try to make the handbook.

Yes, now that I got the make to work, I will, :)

>   If you are really determined to use your own format and
>automatically generate SGML, then it would be very helpful if you
>could alter your script to follow our indentation style for
>readability.

Sorry, that is not quite possible at this time. The hed language was
designed to remove any indendation (since its main purpose is to
create HTML files on the fly, and no indentation means smaller size,
hence faster transmission from the server to the browser, with the
browser not caring about indentation).

What I can do, and started last night, is make it more readable:
Right now each paragraph is on a line of its own. I can split the
lines to be short, but I cannot indent them easily.

I wish I could just run it through tidy, but that expects the file
to be in HTML, not SGML. Is there some reformatter available?

>> - Second, I need to know how to officially submit future
>>   additions to the chapter.
>
>  You can send them to this list or me personally and I'll review and
>commit it.

Very well. I will correct the errors, cut the line length, and let
you know when it is ready. I am also editing it so some things are
worded differently in the tutorial on my site and in the doc version
(e.g., I am talking about "this tutorial" on my site, while "this
chapter" in the doc -- and that is where my own language makes it
easy :) ).

As I continue my work on the tutorial, I will differentiate more between
the two versions. For example, my tutorial assumes that you already
know what assembly language is, when to use it, and things like that.
On the other hand, I should probably explain some of that in the
handbook.

>  Looks good but I'm mostly curious what you're converting from and if
>it wouldn't be easier for yourself and everyone else to just maintain
>the document in SGML.

No, it would not. Not for me, anyway. I use hed (the language of my own
design - Html EDitor) extensively on all my web sites. It is a CGI
language which can produce different versions of the HTML output
based on various environmental variables.

That flexibility does not really matter in this tutorial, but it does
elsewhere on my sites.

Another thing it does: It prevents me from forgetting to close
a tag. So, I cannot make a mistake like <b><i>Hello</b>. In
hed, I type ^b ^i (Hello). hed then converts it to <b><i>Hello</i></b>
automatically. This ability alone was the main reason for
me to create hed, and is the main reason why I am not
willing to give it up. :)

Finally, when I first wrote the tutorial, I had no reason to use
DocBook. I mostly wrote the tutorial as a reminder to myself how
to do certain things. I never thought it would become as popular
as it is (it does get quite a few daily hits), let alone that it
might be incorporated into the official FreeBSD documentation. :)

I would have done certain things differently if I knew that, and,
now that I have seen it inside the handbook, I feel a certain
obligation to add some parts that I never considered writing
(e.g., I should add some information on the AT&T syntax which is
used in assembly language source code of the kernel). That, of
course, will take some time, which is the main reason I decided
to cut the long lines into short ones, so I can just submit
simple diffs for small changes.

Eventually, I may even write other chapters for the handbook.
I said MAY. :)

Cheers,
Adam
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o [2000/07/18] docs/20028  doc      ASCII docs should reflect <emphasis> tags
o [2000/12/28] docs/23910  doc      Handbook Chapter 14. Sound -- some fixes
o [2001/01/15] docs/24363  doc      lack of explanation
o [2001/05/23] docs/27605  doc      Cross-document references (<olink>)

4 problems total.

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a [1998/07/31] docs/7456   doc      dialog(3) man page outdated
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o [1999/09/25] docs/13950  doc      webpage idea
o [1999/09/25] docs/13967  doc      FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea
o [1999/10/06] docs/14158  doc      md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a
o [1999/10/27] docs/14565  doc      ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp
f [2000/03/20] docs/17521  doc      Proposed FAQ on assembly programming
o [2000/04/03] kern/17774  doc      stray irq7
o [2000/05/03] docs/18379  doc      Information on SSH hard to find in Handbo
o [2000/06/05] docs/19010  doc      Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented;
o [2000/06/23] docs/19481  doc      Serial Communications chapter in Handbook
f [2000/07/17] docs/19981  doc      Indonesian translations
o [2000/08/04] docs/20400  doc      Building a kernel with debugging info sec
o [2000/08/10] docs/20528  doc      sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix.
o [2000/08/20] docs/20738  doc      correction and modification to clocks(7)
o [2000/08/23] docs/20794  doc      Request 2 good documents under people.fre
o [2000/10/07] docs/21826  doc      ARP proxy feature lacks documentation
o [2000/10/10] docs/21896  doc      Mini-HOWTO for stp driver
f [2000/11/01] docs/22470  doc      man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin
o [2000/11/14] docs/22861  doc      newsyslog man page is misleading and inco
o [2000/12/04] docs/23292  doc      /etc/dumpdates is not documented in secti
o [2000/12/11] docs/23488  doc      A manpage for section 7 regarding a Toron
o [2000/12/14] docs/23559  doc      missing manpage for hsearch libc function
o [2001/01/02] docs/24035  doc      ptrace(2) PT_STEP incorrect documentation
o [2001/01/26] docs/24662  doc      too many questions about source managemen
o [2001/02/01] docs/24786  doc      missing FILES descriptions in sa(4)
o [2001/02/03] docs/24839  doc      fix ether.bridge
o [2001/02/05] docs/24869  doc      Some text elf.5 is duplicated
o [2001/02/06] docs/24923  doc      4.2 Release Errata page has no informatio
o [2001/02/11] docs/25000  doc      matcd(4) SYNOPSIS is wrong
o [2001/02/11] docs/25016  doc      symlink(7) manpage says symlinks have no 
o [2001/02/16] docs/25134  doc      Kernel USER_LDT option help incomplete
a [2001/02/20] docs/25239  doc      fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about 
o [2001/02/26] docs/25392  doc      Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu
o [2001/02/26] docs/25405  doc      misleading warning from catman(1), etc.
o [2001/02/27] docs/25420  doc      man page missing important information.
o [2001/02/27] docs/25437  doc      kernel configs are the only precious file
o [2001/02/28] docs/25450  doc      remove NCPU from docs
o [2001/03/10] docs/25648  doc      typos in some manpages (dependant)
o [2001/03/10] docs/25657  doc      no netid(5) man page
o [2001/03/12] docs/25735  doc      error in handbook
o [2001/03/15] bin/25837   docs     [PATCH] properly document vfc_flags in ge
o [2001/03/16] docs/25876  doc      typos in jail.2
o [2001/03/18] docs/25892  doc      doc.html.mk: use OpenJade on alpha
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o [2001/03/22] docs/26006  doc      Changing zone(9) man page
o [2001/03/24] docs/26060  doc      No man page for /etc/host.conf
o [2001/03/28] docs/26194  doc      BSD Family Tree needs updated
o [2001/04/02] docs/26286  doc      *printf(3) etc should gain format string 
o [2001/04/08] docs/26451  doc      ctype.h defined functions are not accurat
o [2001/04/10] docs/26489  doc      incomplete info in the ppp faq about "PPP
o [2001/04/14] docs/26574  doc      Incorrect link in individual ports README
o [2001/04/18] docs/26692  doc      boot manpage describes bootfile prompt in
o [2001/04/21] misc/26742  doc      misleading information in handbook
o [2001/04/25] docs/26861  doc      accept(2) manpage documents non-existant 
o [2001/05/02] docs/27027  doc      Update src/share/misc/iso639
o [2001/05/02] docs/27040  doc      rc(8) and syscons(4) talk about rc.conf.l
o [2001/05/08] docs/27209  doc      [PATCH] ascii.7 table rearrangement and u
o [2001/05/14] docs/27320  doc      excessively vague information in pppoe pa
f [2001/05/17] docs/27410  doc      On the book that comes with the 4.2 kit, 
o [2001/05/18] docs/27430  doc      Addition to the doc/sr_YU/articles tree
o [2001/05/23] docs/27599  doc      md(4) manpage enhancement
o [2001/05/25] docs/27653  doc      Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME
o [2001/05/26] docs/27654  doc      Update to PR 27653
o [2001/05/29] docs/27731  doc      Incorrect example code in dev handbook ca
o [2001/05/29] docs/27758  doc      ptrace(2) man page outdated
o [2001/06/02] docs/27833  doc      No man page for locate.rc
o [2001/06/02] docs/27843  doc      [PATCH] make.conf WITH_* variables aren't

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On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 05:35:55PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
>> - Third, I need to know how to refer to other parts of the same
>>   handbook. I mean parts written by someone else. I noticed
>>   the handbook uses some very cryptic labels, such as AEN5339.
>>   How do I know the proper label for some other sect[123]?
>
>See
>
>    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/x1266.html#AEN2071

I read that. But that does not asnwer my question. I noticed most of
the chapter.sgml's just have one id at the start of the chapter, but
none inside. What I need to know is how to refer to a sect1 or even
a sect2 buried deep within a chapter. They do not use <sect1 id="blah">,
they just say <sect1>.

But the final HTML book does have an id for each sect1. Where does it
come from? Or should I just request that a specific <sect1> be
given an id because I would like to link to it? I know I could just
link to a chapter, but I would like to be more specific than that.

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>  Looks good but I'm mostly curious what you're converting from and if
>it wouldn't be easier for yourself and everyone else to just maintain
>the document in SGML.

Oh, I guess the really main reason for it is that I create so many
multilingual pages that I simply refuse to use anything that does not
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On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 01:09:19PM -0500, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 05:35:55PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
> >> - Third, I need to know how to refer to other parts of the same
> >>   handbook. I mean parts written by someone else. I noticed
> >>   the handbook uses some very cryptic labels, such as AEN5339.
> >>   How do I know the proper label for some other sect[123]?
> >
> >See
> >
> >    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/x1266.h=
tml#AEN2071
>=20
> I read that. But that does not asnwer my question. I noticed most of
> the chapter.sgml's just have one id at the start of the chapter, but
> none inside. What I need to know is how to refer to a sect1 or even
> a sect2 buried deep within a chapter. They do not use <sect1 id=3D"blah">,
> they just say <sect1>.

That's only because we don't link to most sections.

The "id" on the chapter is there for two reasons.

  1.  It gives us something to link to.

  2.  It determines the name of the generated .html file.

You can link to subsections (<sect1> -> <sect6>) by adding in IDs as
necessary.  This example has two sections, and a link from the second
one to the first.

   <chapter id=3D"...">
     <sect1 id=3D"foo-sect">
       <title>Foo</title>

       <para>...</para>
     </sect1>

     <sect1>
       <title>Bar</title>

       <para>This includes a link back to the first section: <xref
         linkend=3D"foo-sect">.</para>
      </sect1>
    </chapter>

To see many, many more examples,=20

    % cd doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook
    % grep 'sect. id' */*.sgml

> But the final HTML book does have an id for each sect1. Where does it
> come from? Or should I just request that a specific <sect1> be
> given an id because I would like to link to it? I know I could just
> link to a chapter, but I would like to be more specific than that.

If something needs an ID, and it doesn't have one, the stylesheets
generate it automatically.  The do this by taking the string "AEN", and
adding a number to it.

That number corresponds exactly with that element's occurence in the
document.  For example, if you had a chapter without an ID, and the
"<chapter>" element was the 20th element in the original .sgml file, it
would be called AEN20.html.  AEN stands for "All element number" (or
something like that anyway).

N
--=20
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If memory serves me right, Chris Costello wrote:
>    I've updated the patch on http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/faq-question.patch
> if you want to look over it one more time before it goes in.

One small nitpick from my corner:

This isn't (necessarily) your fault, but I notice the acronym PPP
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Hello,

I have a question on the (7.3.)building and installing of a custom kernal
documentation. What is "world" and how do I build. I have referred to your
errata page and did not see anything.

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On Monday, June 04, 2001, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> This isn't (necessarily) your fault, but I notice the acronym PPP
> written in various ways, such as PPP, ppp, and Ppp.  Might 
> be nice if they were all consistent.

   Yeah, that was a last-minute fix, actually.  I think that the
authors had intended for it to be "ppp", but it ended up "Ppp"
at the beginning of a sentence.  I'm keeping it "ppp" in the
<question> stuff when it refers to the application, but "PPP" (in
only two questions) when it refers to the protocol:

+         <para>Why am I having problems talking PPP to NeXTStep
+         <para>PPP has hung.  What can I do?</para>

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Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> writes:
> On Monday, June 04, 2001, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> > This isn't (necessarily) your fault, but I notice the acronym PPP
> > written in various ways, such as PPP, ppp, and Ppp.  Might 
> > be nice if they were all consistent.
> 
>    Yeah, that was a last-minute fix, actually.  I think that the
> authors had intended for it to be "ppp", but it ended up "Ppp"
> at the beginning of a sentence.  I'm keeping it "ppp" in the
> <question> stuff when it refers to the application, but "PPP" (in
> only two questions) when it refers to the protocol:

Why not use "&man.ppp.8;" in the question?  It makes it clear that
you're talking about the program, not the protocol.

> 
> +         <para>Why am I having problems talking PPP to NeXTStep
> +         <para>PPP has hung.  What can I do?</para>
> 
> -- 
> +-------------------+----------------------------------------------------+
> | Chris Costello    | Tomorrow will be canceled due to lack of interest. |
> | chris@calldei.com |                                                    |
> +-------------------+----------------------------------------------------+
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>Number:         27882
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       docs: Misspellings, Grammar Errors, Punctuation Errors
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
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>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon Jun 04 17:10:01 PDT 2001
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>Originator:     Eric S. Van Gyzen <esv@vangyzen.net>
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386
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>Environment:
System: FreeBSD hiro.vangyzen.net 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Tue Apr 24 13:30:09 EDT 2001 vangyzen@hiro.vangyzen.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/HIRO i386

Modified File: $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml,v 1.41 2001/05/28 13:41:56 sheldonh Exp $

>Description:
See the following "diff" for a full description of the problems I fixed.
Most were obvious typos. I am fairly certain that none of my fixes
altered the semantics of the content.
Incidentally, this is a pretty good introduction to NIS.  Thanks!

>How-To-Repeat:
N/A

>Fix:

*** chapter.sgml.orig	Mon Jun  4 19:36:12 2001
--- chapter.sgml	Mon Jun  4 19:48:23 2001
***************
*** 1456,1462 ****
                master's data files.  NIS slave servers provide the redundancy,
                which is needed in important environments. They also help
                to balance the load of the master server:  NIS Clients always
!               attach to the NIS server, whose response they get first, and
                this includes slave-server-replies.</para>
            </listitem>
            <listitem>
--- 1456,1462 ----
                master's data files.  NIS slave servers provide the redundancy,
                which is needed in important environments. They also help
                to balance the load of the master server:  NIS Clients always
!               attach to the NIS server whose response they get first, and
                this includes slave-server-replies.</para>
            </listitem>
            <listitem>
***************
*** 1552,1558 ****
  	    that it is part of.  This is how multiple servers on one
  	    network can tell which server should answer which request.
  	    Think of the NIS domainname as the name for a group of hosts
! 	    that are related in someway way.</para>
    
  	  <para>Some organizations choose to use their Internet domainname
  	    for their NIS domainname. This is not recommended as it can
--- 1552,1558 ----
  	    that it is part of.  This is how multiple servers on one
  	    network can tell which server should answer which request.
  	    Think of the NIS domainname as the name for a group of hosts
! 	    that are related in some way.</para>
    
  	  <para>Some organizations choose to use their Internet domainname
  	    for their NIS domainname. This is not recommended as it can
***************
*** 1641,1647 ****
              </listitem>
            </itemizedlist>
  
!           <para>Now, everything you have to do is to run the command
              <command>/etc/netstart</command> as superuser.  It will
              setup everything for you, using the values you defined in
              <filename>/etc/rc.conf</filename>.</para>
--- 1641,1647 ----
              </listitem>
            </itemizedlist>
  
!           <para>Now, all you have to do is to run the command
              <command>/etc/netstart</command> as superuser.  It will
              setup everything for you, using the values you defined in
              <filename>/etc/rc.conf</filename>.</para>
***************
*** 1815,1822 ****
  	  <para>These two lines force the slave to sync its maps with
  	    the maps on the master server.  Although this is
  	    not mandatory, because the master server
! 	    tries to make sure any changes to it's NIS maps are
! 	    communicated to it's slaves, the password
  	    information is so vital to systems that depend on the server,
  	    that it is a good idea to force the updates.  This is more
  	    important on busy networks where map updates might not always
--- 1815,1822 ----
  	  <para>These two lines force the slave to sync its maps with
  	    the maps on the master server.  Although this is
  	    not mandatory, because the master server
! 	    tries to make sure any changes to its NIS maps are
! 	    communicated to its slaves, the password
  	    information is so vital to systems that depend on the server,
  	    that it is a good idea to force the updates.  This is more
  	    important on busy networks where map updates might not always
***************
*** 1857,1863 ****
  	  <title>Setting up an NIS client</title>
  	  
  	  <para>Setting up a FreeBSD machine to be a NIS client is fairly
! 	    straight forward.</para>
  	
  	  <itemizedlist>
  	    <listitem>
--- 1857,1863 ----
  	  <title>Setting up an NIS client</title>
  	  
  	  <para>Setting up a FreeBSD machine to be a NIS client is fairly
! 	    straightforward.</para>
  	
  	  <itemizedlist>
  	    <listitem>
***************
*** 2044,2050 ****
          users and/or machines.  On larger networks, you
          <emphasis>will</emphasis> forget to bar some users from logging
          onto sensitive machines, or you may even have to modify each
!         machine separately, thus loosing the main benefit of NIS,
          <emphasis>centralized</emphasis> administration.</para>
  
        <para>The NIS developers' solution for this problem is called
--- 2044,2050 ----
          users and/or machines.  On larger networks, you
          <emphasis>will</emphasis> forget to bar some users from logging
          onto sensitive machines, or you may even have to modify each
!         machine separately, thus losing the main benefit of NIS,
          <emphasis>centralized</emphasis> administration.</para>
  
        <para>The NIS developers' solution for this problem is called
***************
*** 2122,2128 ****
              </row>
              <row>
                <!-- gluttony was omitted because it was too fat ;-) -->
!               <entry>pride, greed, envy, wraith, lust, sloth</entry>
                <entry>Less important servers.  All members of the IT
                  department are allowed to login onto these machines.</entry>
              </row>
--- 2122,2128 ----
              </row>
              <row>
                <!-- gluttony was omitted because it was too fat ;-) -->
!               <entry>pride, greed, envy, wrath, lust, sloth</entry>
                <entry>Less important servers.  All members of the IT
                  department are allowed to login onto these machines.</entry>
              </row>
***************
*** 2148,2161 ****
          -<replaceable>user</replaceable> line to each system's passwd
          for each user who is not allowed to login onto that system.
          If you forget just one entry, you could be in trouble.  It may
!         feasible to do this correctly during the initial setup,
          however you <emphasis>will</emphasis> eventually forget to add
          the lines for new users during day-to-day operations.  After
          all, Murphy was an optimist.</para>
  
        <para>Handling this situation with netgroups offers several
          advantages.  Each user need not be handled separately;
!         you assign a user to one or netgroup and allow or forbid
          logins for all members of the netgroup.  If you add a new
          machine, you will only have to define login restrictions for
          netgroups.  If a new user is added, you will only have to add
--- 2148,2161 ----
          -<replaceable>user</replaceable> line to each system's passwd
          for each user who is not allowed to login onto that system.
          If you forget just one entry, you could be in trouble.  It may
!         be feasible to do this correctly during the initial setup,
          however you <emphasis>will</emphasis> eventually forget to add
          the lines for new users during day-to-day operations.  After
          all, Murphy was an optimist.</para>
  
        <para>Handling this situation with netgroups offers several
          advantages.  Each user need not be handled separately;
!         you assign a user to one or more netgroups and allow or forbid
          logins for all members of the netgroup.  If you add a new
          machine, you will only have to define login restrictions for
          netgroups.  If a new user is added, you will only have to add
***************
*** 2194,2200 ****
            <para>The name of the host(s) where the following items are
              valid.  If you do not specify a hostname, the entry is
              valid on all hosts.  If you do specify a hostname, you
!             will a realm of darkness, horror and utter confusion.</para>
          </listitem>
  
          <listitem>
--- 2194,2200 ----
            <para>The name of the host(s) where the following items are
              valid.  If you do not specify a hostname, the entry is
              valid on all hosts.  If you do specify a hostname, you
!             will enter a realm of darkness, horror and utter confusion.</para>
          </listitem>
  
          <listitem>
***************
*** 2231,2237 ****
  
          <programlisting>BIGGRP1  (,joe1,domain)  (,joe2,domain)  (,joe3,domain) [...]
  BIGGRP2  (,joe16,domain)  (,joe17,domain) [...]
! BIGGRP3  (,joe32,domain)  (,joe33,domain)
  BIGGROUP  BIGGRP1 BIGGRP2 BIGGRP3</programlisting>
  
          <para>You can repeat this process if you need more than 225
--- 2231,2237 ----
  
          <programlisting>BIGGRP1  (,joe1,domain)  (,joe2,domain)  (,joe3,domain) [...]
  BIGGRP2  (,joe16,domain)  (,joe17,domain) [...]
! BIGGRP3  (,joe31,domain)  (,joe32,domain)
  BIGGROUP  BIGGRP1 BIGGRP2 BIGGRP3</programlisting>
  
          <para>You can repeat this process if you need more than 225
***************
*** 2250,2256 ****
          <filename>netgroup</filename>,
          <filename>netgroup.byhost</filename> and
          <filename>netgroup.byuser</filename>.  Use &man.ypcat.1; to
!         check if your new NIS map are available:</para>
  
        <screen>
  ellington&prompt.user; <userinput>ypcat -k netgroup</userinput>
--- 2250,2256 ----
          <filename>netgroup</filename>,
          <filename>netgroup.byhost</filename> and
          <filename>netgroup.byuser</filename>.  Use &man.ypcat.1; to
!         check if your new NIS maps are available:</para>
  
        <screen>
  ellington&prompt.user; <userinput>ypcat -k netgroup</userinput>
>Release-Note:
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On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 02:55:05PM -0500, Bill Fumerola wrote:
> typically, duplicating the same information in two different places in the
> tree is frowned upon. whats the plan here?

  We desperately need a DocBook -> mdoc filter for this and several
other good reasons.  There are several projects that are working on
related things (and all Solaris manpages have been generated from
DocBook for quite some time) but I don't think any of them meet our
needs yet.  Does anyone have some free cycles to investigate this?

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Synopsis: docs: Misspellings, Grammar Errors, Punctuation Errors

State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
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Committed, thanks!

In the future, please send unified diffs, *especially* for changes
like this where exactly what changed isn't immediately obvious from
glancing at the two lines.

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Ran into some trouble building docs.  Just CVSup'd them a minute ago:


# cd /usr/doc
# make all install

[snip]

/usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.sgml:595:5:E:
document type does not allow element "PARA" here; missing one of
"FOOTNOTE", "CAUTION", "IMPORTANT", "NOTE", "TIP", "WARNING",
"BLOCKQUOTE", "INFORMALEXAMPLE" start-tag
/usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.sgml:601:11:E:
end tag for "PARA" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified
/usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.sgml:541:6:
start tag was here

*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/formatting-media.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc.


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Nick Rogness <nick@rogness.net> writes:
> 
> Ran into some trouble building docs.  Just CVSup'd them a minute ago:
> 
> 
> # cd /usr/doc
> # make all install
> 
> [snip]
> 
> [snip error about <para> not being closed]

I can't reproduce this.  Could you please send us the output of `ident
article.sgml` in doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/formatting-media?  The
output should look omething like this:

	dima@hornet% ident article.sgml
	article.sgml:
	     $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.sgml,v 1.16 2001/06/04 03:04:38 grog Exp $

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On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Dima Dorfman wrote:

> Nick Rogness <nick@rogness.net> writes:
> > 
> > Ran into some trouble building docs.  Just CVSup'd them a minute ago:
> > 
> > 
> > # cd /usr/doc
> > # make all install
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > [snip error about <para> not being closed]
> 
> I can't reproduce this.  Could you please send us the output of `ident
> article.sgml` in doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/formatting-media?  The
> output should look omething like this:
> 
> 	dima@hornet% ident article.sgml
> 	article.sgml:
> 	     $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.sgml,v 1.16 2001/06/04 03:04:38 grog Exp $


lightning# ident article.sgml
article.sgml:

$FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.sgml,v
1.16 2001/06/04 03:04:38 grog Exp $

As a side note, I just built docs for the first time so...FYI.

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Nick Rogness <nick@rogness.net> writes:
> On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Dima Dorfman wrote:
> 
> > Nick Rogness <nick@rogness.net> writes:
> > > 
> > > Ran into some trouble building docs.  Just CVSup'd them a minute ago:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > # cd /usr/doc
> > > # make all install
> > > 
> > > [snip]
> > > 
> > > [snip error about <para> not being closed]
> > 
> > I can't reproduce this.  Could you please send us the output of `ident
> > article.sgml` in doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/formatting-media?  The
> > output should look omething like this:
> > 
> > 	dima@hornet% ident article.sgml
> > 	article.sgml:
> > 	     $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.s
> gml,v 1.16 2001/06/04 03:04:38 grog Exp $
> 
> 
> lightning# ident article.sgml
> article.sgml:
> 
> $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.sgml,v
> 1.16 2001/06/04 03:04:38 grog Exp $
> 
> As a side note, I just built docs for the first time so...FYI.

Is it still breaking?  If so, compare the MD5 checksum of that file to this:

	dima@hornet% /sbin/md5 article.sgml
	MD5 (article.sgml) = f8ccfe7ff2221d3c785b173c0e714c22

If it's different, delete that file and re-cvsup.


> 
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On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Dima Dorfman wrote:

> Nick Rogness <nick@rogness.net> writes:


> > 
> > As a side note, I just built docs for the first time so...FYI.
> 
> Is it still breaking?  If so, compare the MD5 checksum of that file to
> this:
> 
> 	dima@hornet% /sbin/md5 article.sgml
> 	MD5 (article.sgml) = f8ccfe7ff2221d3c785b173c0e714c22
> 
> If it's different, delete that file and re-cvsup.

	Checksum is the same.



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On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 10:52:50PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
>You can link to subsections (<sect1> -> <sect6>) by adding in IDs as
>necessary.

Yes. But my question was about subsections from another chapter written
by someone else and not having an ID. Can I just submit a diff which
would give it an ID?

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On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 02:23:22AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote:
>  You can send them to this list or me personally and I'll review and
>commit it.

Ok, it's ready now. I have fixed all SGML errors and built a handbook
with it successfully. I have also added line breaks so the SGML code
is readable by humans.

Again, the URL is http://www.int80h.org/bsdasm/x86.sgml and it is ready
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>Number:         27885
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       tuning(7) has some misspelling
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon Jun 04 21:10:01 PDT 2001
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Tadayuki OKADA
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD photoniii 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #26: Sat Jun 2 15:54:54 EDT 2001 root@photoniii:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PHOTON i386

>Description:
    I found some misspelling in tuning(7). A patch included.
    By the way, as of todays STABLE, IDE write caching is the default again.
    Shouldn't the description be changed?
    About softupdate, I read a mail which shows softupdates slows down
    interactive operation and I think it's correct.
    Is it worth a mention?
    # English is not my native language, forgive me if I made a mistake.

>How-To-Repeat:
>Fix:

--- tuning.7.orig	Mon Jun  4 22:29:50 2001
+++ tuning.7	Mon Jun  4 23:21:34 2001
@@ -16,7 +16,7 @@
 .Xr disklabel 8
 to lay out your filesystems on a hard disk it is important to remember
 that hard drives can transfer data much more quickly from outer tracks
-then they can from inner tracks.  To take advantage of this you should
+than they can from inner tracks.  To take advantage of this you should
 try to pack your smaller filesystems and swap closer to the outer tracks,
 follow with the larger filesystems, and end with the largest filesystems.
 It is also important to size system standard filesystems such that you
@@ -116,7 +116,7 @@
 in the partition table) will increase I/O performance in the partitions 
 where you need it the most.  Now it is true that you might also need I/O
 performance in the larger partitions, but they are so large that shifting
-them more towards the edge of the disk will not lead to a significnat
+them more towards the edge of the disk will not lead to a significant
 performance improvement whereas moving /var to the edge can have a huge impact.
 Finally, there are safety concerns.  Having a small neat root partition that
 is essentially read-only gives it a greater chance of surviving a bad crash
@@ -159,7 +159,7 @@
 recovery times after a crash.  Do not use this option
 unless you are actually storing large files on the partition, because if you
 overcompensate you can wind up with a filesystem that has lots of free
-space remaining but cannot accomodate any more files.  Using
+space remaining but cannot accommodate any more files.  Using
 32768, 65536, or 262144 bytes/inode is recommended.  You can go higher but
 it will have only incremental effects on fsck recovery times.  For
 example, 
@@ -187,10 +187,10 @@
 Softupdates drastically improves meta-data performance, mainly file
 creation and deletion.  We recommend turning softupdates on on all of your
 filesystems.  There are two downsides to softupdates that you should be
-aware of:  First, softupdates guarentees filesystem consistency in the
+aware of:  First, softupdates guarantees filesystem consistency in the
 case of a crash but could very easily be several seconds (even a minute!)
 behind updating the physical disk.  If you crash you may lose more work
-then otherwise.  Secondly, softupdates delays the freeing of filesystem
+than otherwise.  Secondly, softupdates delays the freeing of filesystem
 blocks.  If you have a filesystem (such as the root filesystem) which is 
 close to full, doing a major update of it, e.g.
 .Em make installworld,
@@ -209,11 +209,11 @@
 time.  You should only stripe partitions that require serious I/O performance...
 typically /var, /home, or custom partitions used to hold databases and web
 pages.  Choosing the proper stripe size is also 
-important.  Filesystems tend to store meta-data on power-of-2 boundries
-and you usually want to reduce seeking rather then increase seeking.  This
+important.  Filesystems tend to store meta-data on power-of-2 boundaries
+and you usually want to reduce seeking rather than increase seeking.  This
 means you want to use a large off-center stripe size such as 1152 sectors
 so sequential I/O does not seek both disks and so meta-data is distributed
-across both disks rather then concentrated on a single disk.  If
+across both disks rather than concentrated on a single disk.  If
 you really need to get sophisticated, we recommend using a real hardware
 raid controller from the list of
 .Fx
@@ -249,7 +249,7 @@
 the VM Page Cache to cache the directories.  The advantage is that all of
 memory is now available for caching directories.  The disadvantage is that
 the minimum in-core memory used to cache a directory is the physical page
-size (typically 4K) rather then 512 bytes.  We recommend turning this option
+size (typically 4K) rather than 512 bytes.  We recommend turning this option
 on if you are running any services which manipulate large numbers of files.
 Such services can include web caches, large mail systems, and news systems.
 Turning on this option will generally not reduce performance even with the
@@ -270,7 +270,7 @@
 improve bandwidth utilization by increasing the default at the cost of 
 eating up more kernel memory for each connection.  We do not recommend
 increasing the defaults if you are serving hundreds or thousands of
-simultanious connections because it is possible to quickly run the system
+simultaneous connections because it is possible to quickly run the system
 out of memory due to stalled connections building up.  But if you need
 high bandwidth over a fewer number of connections, especially if you have
 gigabit ethernet, increasing these defaults can make a huge difference.
@@ -280,7 +280,7 @@
 without eating too much kernel memory.  Note that the route table, see
 .Xr route 8 ,
 can be used to introduce route-specific send and receive buffer size
-defaults.  As an additional mangagement tool you can use pipes in your
+defaults.  As an additional management tool you can use pipes in your
 firewall rules, see
 .Xr ipfw 8 ,
 to limit the bandwidth going to or from particular IP blocks or ports.
@@ -296,9 +296,9 @@
 We recommend that you turn on (set to 1) and leave on the 
 .Em net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive
 control.  The default is usually off.  This introduces a small amount of
-additional network bandwidth but guarentees that dead tcp connections
+additional network bandwidth but guarantees that dead tcp connections
 will eventually be recognized and cleared.  Dead tcp connections are a
-particular problem on systems accesed by users operating over dialups,
+particular problem on systems accessed by users operating over dialups,
 because users often disconnect their modems without properly closing active
 connections.
 .Pp
@@ -339,7 +339,7 @@
 willing to allocate.  Each cluster represents approximately 2K of memory,
 so a value of 1024 represents 2M of kernel memory reserved for network
 buffers.  You can do a simple calculation to figure out how many you need.
-If you have a web server which maxes out at 1000 simultanious connections,
+If you have a web server which maxes out at 1000 simultaneous connections,
 and each connection eats a 16K receive and 16K send buffer, you need
 approximate 32MB worth of network buffers to deal with it.  A good rule of
 thumb is to multiply by 2, so 32MBx2 = 64MB/2K = 32768.  So for this case
@@ -413,7 +413,7 @@
 .Sh CPU, MEMORY, DISK, NETWORK
 The type of tuning you do depends heavily on where your system begins to
 bottleneck as load increases.  If your system runs out of cpu (idle times
-are pepetually 0%) then you need to consider upgrading the cpu or moving to
+are perpetually 0%) then you need to consider upgrading the cpu or moving to
 an SMP motherboard (multiple cpu's), or perhaps you need to revisit the
 programs that are causing the load and try to optimize them.  If your system
 is paging to swap a lot you need to consider adding more memory.  If your
@@ -436,7 +436,7 @@
 .Xr firewall 7
 we describe a firewall protecting internal hosts with a topology where
 the externally visible hosts are not routed through it.  Use 100BaseT rather
-then 10BaseT, or use 1000BaseT rather then 100BaseT, depending on your needs.
+than 10BaseT, or use 1000BaseT rather than 100BaseT, depending on your needs.
 Most bottlenecks occur at the WAN link (e.g. modem, T1, DSL, whatever).
 If expanding the link is not an option it may be possible to use ipfw's
 .Sy DUMMYNET

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Synopsis: tuning(7) has some misspelling

Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dillon
Responsible-Changed-By: dd
Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jun 4 21:16:29 PDT 2001
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Matt's man page.

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From owner-freebsd-doc  Mon Jun  4 22: 2:26 2001
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There is a bug in the way the <warning> tag is being processed:

It creates something like this:

<b>Warning</b>Blah, blah.

What it should do (to be consistent with <tip>, <note>, etc):

<b>Warning:</b> Blah, blah.

Since it places no space after (or before) the </b>, it looks
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"G. Adam Stanislav" <adam@whizkidtech.net> writes:
> There is a bug in the way the <warning> tag is being processed:
> 
> It creates something like this:
> 
> <b>Warning</b>Blah, blah.
> 
> What it should do (to be consistent with <tip>, <note>, etc):
> 
> <b>Warning:</b> Blah, blah.
> 
> Since it places no space after (or before) the </b>, it looks
> pretty bad.

Are you seeing this on your local builds, or just on www.freebsd.org?
The web server, freefall, is using an old version of the stylesheets,
so that may be the problem.  I have the up-to-date stylesheets, and I
don't see this problem on my local builds.

If you're seeing this on your local builds, check what version of the
"dsssl-docbook-modular" package you have.  If you don't already have
it, get 1.64_1.

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>> <b>Warning</b>Blah, blah.
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>Are you seeing this on your local builds, or just on www.freebsd.org?

Both, though I was mostly concerned with freebsd.org since that is
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>If you're seeing this on your local builds, check what version of the
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>it, get 1.64_1.

I have 1.33. Am downloading the new version right now, thanks. :)

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Hi all--

RELNOTESng is now the default for 4-STABLE release builds.  Floppy
images get TXT renderings only, while the CDROM and FTP areas get both
TXT and HTML.  The NODOC make variable (used to disable doc building)
will also disable release note building (i.e. for minimal release
builds).  For more information, please see src/release/doc/README.

Please also note that the old *.TXT files that used to contain the
release notes and other release documentation are now gone from
4-STABLE, with a README in the src/release/texts directory to redirect
anyone who was expecting the release notes there.

For now, HTML, PDF, and TXT renderings of the release documentation can 
be found at:

http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes/

We're hoping to get these automatically rendered as a part of the Web
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On Monday, June 04, 2001, Dima Dorfman wrote:
> Why not use "&man.ppp.8;" in the question?  It makes it clear that
> you're talking about the program, not the protocol.

   Done.  Updated the patch at http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/question.patch
and hopefully it can go in, finally...

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Thus spake G. Adam Stanislav (adam@whizkidtech.net):

> >If you're seeing this on your local builds, check what version of the
> >"dsssl-docbook-modular" package you have.  If you don't already have
> >it, get 1.64_1.
> I have 1.33. Am downloading the new version right now, thanks. :)

FYI, there has been a thread on this with Nik and the creator of
DocBook some months ago.

I think the actual docbook port should fix it, but I'm not sure.

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Bruce A. Mah(bmah@freebsd.org)@2001.06.05 09:23:46 +0000:
> Hi all--
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> RELNOTESng is now the default for 4-STABLE release builds.  Floppy
> images get TXT renderings only, while the CDROM and FTP areas get both
> TXT and HTML.  The NODOC make variable (used to disable doc building)
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> builds).  For more information, please see src/release/doc/README.
bruce, you're a real wizard!
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I decided that I'd like a local copy of the handbook incase I'm ever
without access to the network and need to reference it. I disocvered
that all the files in /usr/doc are SGML files. So, I took a look at
the README there and then went to the web page. I looked at the list
of mandatory tools needed to compile the doc project stuff here:

http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/docproj-primer/tools.html

and built all the tools. Then I went to /usr/doc and ran make. Things
seemed to be going well until make was unable to find eps2png. I went
and built eps2png and so far things seem to be going well. 

The point is that it seems like eps2png is required to build the
docs. Is this correct, or is what I'm doing not supported and not
exptected to work? Please let me know if I'm doing it all wrong. :) If
I'm not doing something silly, then you might want to add eps2png to
the list of requirements reference mentioned above.

Thanks,
Steve

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On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 11:10:36PM -0400, Steve Wills wrote:
> I decided that I'd like a local copy of the handbook incase I'm ever
> without access to the network and need to reference it. I disocvered
> that all the files in /usr/doc are SGML files. So, I took a look at
> the README there and then went to the web page. I looked at the list
> of mandatory tools needed to compile the doc project stuff here:
>=20
> http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/docproj-primer/tools.html
>=20
> and built all the tools. Then I went to /usr/doc and ran make. Things
> seemed to be going well until make was unable to find eps2png. I went
> and built eps2png and so far things seem to be going well.=20
>=20
> The point is that it seems like eps2png is required to build the
> docs. Is this correct, or is what I'm doing not supported and not
> exptected to work? Please let me know if I'm doing it all wrong. :) If
> I'm not doing something silly, then you might want to add eps2png to
> the list of requirements reference mentioned above.

eps2png is required.  It should probably be added to the list of tools,
but really, the best way to get the doc tools is the textproc/docproj
port which does include the appropriate things including eps2png.
Building them by hand seems rather pointless.

-- Brooks

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hi all,
     while going through the file sytem documentation 
in developers-handbook, i found that there is just one
line under I/O system. I  just want to know if i can
add some documentation related to general concepts on
filesystem as well as FFS , if nobody is doing it.
Please let me .
thanks
manas

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On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 10:05:06PM -0700, Manas Bhatt wrote:
>      while going through the file sytem documentation 
> in developers-handbook, i found that there is just one
> line under I/O system. I  just want to know if i can
> add some documentation related to general concepts on
> filesystem as well as FFS , if nobody is doing it.
> Please let me .

  By all means, please contribute as much as possible.  We use DocBook
in the FreeBSD Documentation Project
(http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/sgml.html), but your work will be
appreciated no matter how you submit it (text, html, etc..).  You can
submit your additions with send-pr(1).  I am not aware of anyone else
that is working on this section.

       Thanks,

	- Murray

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>Number:         27902
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       newfs.8 - wrong place for -U option
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Jun 06 00:50:01 PDT 2001
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Sergey N. Voronkov
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386
>Organization:
Sibitex
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #1: Mon Jun 4 17:28:13 YEKST 2001 serg@sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SV i386

>Description:
	Please compare descriptions:

1) Current one
     -O      Create a
           
     -U      Enables soft updates on the new filesystem.  4.3BSD format
             filesystem.  This options is primarily used to build root
             filesystems that can be understood by older boot ROMs.
2) Should be
     -O      Create a 4.3BSD format filesystem.  This options is primarily      
             used to build root filesystems that can be understood by older
             boot ROMs.

     -U      Enables soft updates on the new filesystem.


>How-To-Repeat:
	man newfs
>Fix:

Against 4.3-STABLE (current sould be nearly the some)

#diff -uN newfs.8.old newfs.8 
--- newfs.8.old Wed Jun  6 13:29:33 2001
+++ newfs.8     Wed Jun  6 13:31:03 2001
@@ -144,12 +144,12 @@
 without really creating the file system.
 .It Fl O
 Create a
-.It Fl U
-Enables soft updates on the new filesystem.
 .Bx 4.3
 format filesystem.
 This options is primarily used to build root filesystems
 that can be understood by older boot ROMs.
+.It Fl U
+Enables soft updates on the new filesystem.
 .It Fl T
 Use information for the specified disk from
 .Pa /etc/disktab
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 02:55:05AM -0500, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 10:17:21PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote:
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> >
> >Are you seeing this on your local builds, or just on www.freebsd.org?
>=20
> Both, though I was mostly concerned with freebsd.org since that is
> what most people see.

I could've sworn I fixed that.

I have now.  Freefall now has the most up to date stylesheets on it, so
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N
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Synopsis: newfs.8 - wrong place for -U option

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Fixed, thanks!

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On Jun 05 2001, Bruce A. Mah wrote:

[relnotesNG announce]

Good work, Bruce.

I noticed one minor problem when I tried to build them: I had

DOC_LANG=en_US.ISO_8859-1 de_DE.ISO_8859-1
RELNOTES_LANG=en_US.ISO_8859-1

in my /etc/make.conf but making the docs via 

# cd /usr/src/release/doc
# make DOC_PREFIX=/usr/doc all 

failed because it was trying to build the reldocs for de_DE.ISO_8859-1 
too, apparently using DOC_LANG instead of RELNOTES_LANG.

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> sumanth vidyadhara schrieb:
> 
> Hi,
>  I need the free bsd documentation  .Can you please send me the
> documantation on this and send it to me as an HTML format.
> Because i was not able to find a free bsd documantation in HTML
> format.

Point your browser at
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/

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HTH
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Hi Christoph,
  We actually need a developers handbook.Can you please tell us where we can
find it.
We found the site but the format is in sgml format.
We need a HTML format or a pdf format.
Can you please suggest an URL for that.
Regards,
Sumanth
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> > sumanth vidyadhara schrieb:
> >
> > Hi,
> >  I need the free bsd documentation  .Can you please send me the
> > documantation on this and send it to me as an HTML format.
> > Because i was not able to find a free bsd documantation in HTML
> > format.
>
> Point your browser at
> http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/
>
> and read on. Included is documentation on how to get documentation in
> various formats.
>
> HTH
> -Christoph Sold


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hello friends

there are not images iso in your FTP site
why?

thanks


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On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 04:04:45PM -0000, A. Francis Barrera wrote:
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> 
> there are not images iso in your FTP site
> why?
> 
Because you're looking in the wrong place :)

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/

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On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 09:23:46AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> RELNOTESng is now the default for 4-STABLE release builds. =20

Top effort.

> Floppy
> images get TXT renderings only, while the CDROM and FTP areas get both
> TXT and HTML.  The NODOC make variable (used to disable doc building)
> will also disable release note building (i.e. for minimal release
> builds).  For more information, please see src/release/doc/README.

Any thoughts about generating PDF for the CDROM and FTP cases as well?

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On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 11:10:36PM -0400, Steve Wills wrote:
> I decided that I'd like a local copy of the handbook incase I'm ever
> without access to the network and need to reference it. I disocvered
> that all the files in /usr/doc are SGML files. So, I took a look at
> the README there and then went to the web page. I looked at the list
> of mandatory tools needed to compile the doc project stuff here:
>=20
> http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/docproj-primer/tools.html

Use the meta-port, textproc/docproj to automatically pull down
everything that's needed.  Sometimes the documentation may lag reality.

I'll update this though to include eps2png.

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If memory serves me right, Nik Clayton wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 09:23:46AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> > RELNOTESng is now the default for 4-STABLE release builds. =20
> 
> Top effort.

Thanks!  Just a regular guy, working hard.

> > Floppy
> > images get TXT renderings only, while the CDROM and FTP areas get both
> > TXT and HTML.  The NODOC make variable (used to disable doc building)
> > will also disable release note building (i.e. for minimal release
> > builds).  For more information, please see src/release/doc/README.
> 
> Any thoughts about generating PDF for the CDROM and FTP cases as well?

It'd be real easy for us to do...it's roughly a five-line change to src/
release/Makefile.  In fact I almost did this for the FTP area.  For the
CDROM, I would like to know what the release engineer(s) think, since
they may have some space constraints.  I need about 500 KB for the
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On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 07:13:29PM +0530, sumanth vidyadhara wrote:
>   We actually need a developers handbook.Can you please tell us where we =
can
> find it.
> We found the site but the format is in sgml format.
> We need a HTML format or a pdf format.
> Can you please suggest an URL for that.

    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/developers-handbook/i=
ndex.html

(and .../book.html).

PDF format will be available from the FTP site soon.

[ For those that might be wondering what happened to the nightly updates
  of the FTP site with -doc builds -- those were being built on BSDi's
  UK server each night, and copied up to the FTP site.  When BSDi (as
  was) pulled out of Europe, that obviously stopped.

  I'm building (quite literally, I put the disks in a few minutes ago) a=20
  new server at home which can do the -doc builds (my existing machine
  is a PPro200, which took ~ 18 hours to build all the docs in all the
  formats, which, as you can imagine, was somewhat impractical).  The
  new server will do the docs in about 2 hours, which is much more
  useful.  Expect the FTP site to be updated in the next 48 hours or so. ]

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Sure they are:

ftp.freebsd.org
/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES

-r--r--r--  1 100  100  663183360 Jul 27  2000 3.5.1-install.iso
-r--r--r--  1 100  100  668108800 Nov 22  2000 4.2-install.iso
-r--r--r--  1 100  100  674414592 Apr 21 23:46 4.3-install.iso


"A. Francis Barrera" wrote:

> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
> hello friends
>
> there are not images iso in your FTP site
> why?
>
> thanks
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If memory serves me right, Thomas Seck wrote:

> Good work, Bruce.

Thanks!

> I noticed one minor problem when I tried to build them: I had
> 
> DOC_LANG=en_US.ISO_8859-1 de_DE.ISO_8859-1
> RELNOTES_LANG=en_US.ISO_8859-1
> 
> in my /etc/make.conf but making the docs via 
> 
> # cd /usr/src/release/doc
> # make DOC_PREFIX=/usr/doc all 

Hmmm.  I originally just meant RELNOTES_LANG to be used during the
release-building process.  That being said, it certainly makes a lot
more sense to be consistent and have it control language selection when
building the release notes as you just did.  I'll go fix this now.

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Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RELNOTESng now default in 4-STABLE, *.TXT files removed 
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:34:47 -0700

> It'd be real easy for us to do...it's roughly a five-line change to src/
> release/Makefile.  In fact I almost did this for the FTP area.  For the
> CDROM, I would like to know what the release engineer(s) think, since
> they may have some space constraints.  I need about 500 KB for the
> PDF files for RELENG_4, as it stands today.

The release engineer fully supports this idea for FTP and CDROM.

- Jordan

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If memory serves me right, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> From: "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RELNOTESng now default in 4-STABLE, *.TXT files remove
> d 
> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:34:47 -0700
> 
> > It'd be real easy for us to do...it's roughly a five-line change to src/
> > release/Makefile.  In fact I almost did this for the FTP area.  For the
> > CDROM, I would like to know what the release engineer(s) think, since
> > they may have some space constraints.  I need about 500 KB for the
> > PDF files for RELENG_4, as it stands today.
> 
> The release engineer fully supports this idea for FTP and CDROM.

Cool!  I'm doing some tests (this patch and others) now...when the dust
settles, I'll commit.

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On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 10:22:16PM -0500, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 10:52:50PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
> >You can link to subsections (<sect1> -> <sect6>) by adding in IDs as
> >necessary.
>=20
> Yes. But my question was about subsections from another chapter written
> by someone else and not having an ID. Can I just submit a diff which
> would give it an ID?

Yes.  Please follow the convention that subsection IDs start with the ID
of the chapter in which they appear, followed by a hyphen, and then the
identifier.

N
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FreeBSD: The Power to Serve             http://www.freebsd.org/
FreeBSD Documentation Project           http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/

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Synopsis: typos in some manpages (dependant)

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The rest of this PR applies to src/contrib/bind stuff, which is
asmodai's thing.

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Moin,
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 10:31:01PM -0500, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
> Ok, it's ready now. I have fixed all SGML errors and built a handbook
> with it successfully. I have also added line breaks so the SGML code
> is readable by humans.

I couldn't resist to take a quick peek and have two comments:

Why do you use the full-fledged variant of creating links to manual pages?
&man.as.1; is way shorter than <citerefentry><refentrytitle>as\
</refentrytitle><manvolnum>1</manvolnum></citerefentry>. And there is a
&man.foo.bar; for almost every single manpage on the system.

And the formatting and indentation needed a couple pats with a hammer,
please take a look at chapter 10.1 of the FDP primer. The URL is
http://www.freeBSD.org/tutorials/docproj-primer/writing-style.html#AEN2973

> Again, the URL is http://www.int80h.org/bsdasm/x86.sgml and it is ready
> to be committed.

I've already fixed the formatting and indentation (suppe plus some manual
fixes) as well as the citerefentry stuff. I've put a snapshot online at
http://people.freebsd.org/~ue/x86-snapshot.sgml for fruther review. I
thought about posting a diff, but the diff is longer than the document
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Fixed in rev 1.42 of kernelconfig/chapter.sgml.  Thanks!

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On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 10:10:44PM +0200, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
> I've already fixed the formatting and indentation (suppe plus some manual
> fixes) as well as the citerefentry stuff. I've put a snapshot online at
> http://people.freebsd.org/~ue/x86-snapshot.sgml for fruther review. I
> thought about posting a diff, but the diff is longer than the document
> itself...

  His SGML is automatically generated.  Your diff is unfortunately not
all that useful in this instance.  The best solution is for him to
start using SGML as the primary format, or to fix his script to make
the output SGML more readable.

	- Murray

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If memory serves me right, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> From: "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RELNOTESng now default in 4-STABLE, *.TXT files remove
> d 
> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:34:47 -0700
> 
> > It'd be real easy for us to do...it's roughly a five-line change to src/
> > release/Makefile.  In fact I almost did this for the FTP area.  For the
> > CDROM, I would like to know what the release engineer(s) think, since
> > they may have some space constraints.  I need about 500 KB for the
> > PDF files for RELENG_4, as it stands today.

Apparently, I lied when I said it was real easy.  For starters, it's a 
seven-line patch, as I initially envisioned it.  However...

> The release engineer fully supports this idea for FTP and CDROM.

Testing revealed a small problem I'd forgotten...during a release, we
build the textproc/docproj port with JADETEX=NO, which eliminates the
build of the print/jadetex port, as well as the (huge) print/teTeX port.
If we want to build PDF documents, we'll have to set JADETEX=YES and
consequently build three new ports at release time (one of them, teTeX,
is pretty big).

Just for posterity's sake, the additional ports that need to be built
are:

	print/jadetex
	print/teTeX
	www/libwww

We also need to edit /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf in 
the chroot area to reflect the larger memory settings required.
A simple sed script can handle this part.

Not rocket science to do, but it'll make releases take longer (I haven't
quantified this).  I think it's worth doing anyways, but I thought I'd 
bring this up.

Bruce.



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Argh, 3 additional ports sure sounds small but then you mention bloody
** teTex **, an application which is probably larger than FreeBSD
itself, and I go a funny shade of grey when I think of that getting
built on the snapshot boxes. ;)

Send me some diffs and I'll run a few tests to see how serious a
problem it is, OK?

- Jordan


From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah)
Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RELNOTESng now default in 4-STABLE, *.TXT files removed 
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 15:01:32 -0700

> If memory serves me right, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > From: "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RELNOTESng now default in 4-STABLE, *.TXT files remove
> > d 
> > Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:34:47 -0700
> > 
> > > It'd be real easy for us to do...it's roughly a five-line change to src/
> > > release/Makefile.  In fact I almost did this for the FTP area.  For the
> > > CDROM, I would like to know what the release engineer(s) think, since
> > > they may have some space constraints.  I need about 500 KB for the
> > > PDF files for RELENG_4, as it stands today.
> 
> Apparently, I lied when I said it was real easy.  For starters, it's a 
> seven-line patch, as I initially envisioned it.  However...
> 
> > The release engineer fully supports this idea for FTP and CDROM.
> 
> Testing revealed a small problem I'd forgotten...during a release, we
> build the textproc/docproj port with JADETEX=NO, which eliminates the
> build of the print/jadetex port, as well as the (huge) print/teTeX port.
> If we want to build PDF documents, we'll have to set JADETEX=YES and
> consequently build three new ports at release time (one of them, teTeX,
> is pretty big).
> 
> Just for posterity's sake, the additional ports that need to be built
> are:
> 
> 	print/jadetex
> 	print/teTeX
> 	www/libwww
> 
> We also need to edit /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf in 
> the chroot area to reflect the larger memory settings required.
> A simple sed script can handle this part.
> 
> Not rocket science to do, but it'll make releases take longer (I haven't
> quantified this).  I think it's worth doing anyways, but I thought I'd 
> bring this up.
> 
> Bruce.
> 
> 

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>Number:         27919
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       missing usb man pages
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
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>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Jun 06 17:20:01 PDT 2001
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>Originator:     Tadayuki OKADA
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>Description:
    Several usb related man pages are missing.
    usb(3) refers hid(4), but there is no hid(4) man page
    and it actually should be uhid(4).
    usb(4) refers uhid(4) and ulpt(4), but there are no such man pages.
    Also ugen and umodem man pages are missing.

>How-To-Repeat:
>Fix:
    Missing man pages should be imported from NetBSD.
    usb(4) should refer all usb devices.

>Release-Note:
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Synopsis: missing usb man pages

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Over to USB guy.
Nick, if this is just a matter of importing the man pages and you don't have
time, I'll import them for you if you can tell me where to find them.

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27919

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>Number:         27921
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       manpage skey(1) should be skey(7)
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If memory serves me right, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> Argh, 3 additional ports sure sounds small but then you mention bloody
> ** teTex **, an application which is probably larger than FreeBSD
> itself, and I go a funny shade of grey when I think of that getting
> built on the snapshot boxes. ;)

Grrr.  I just discovered something that's part of teTeX:

---> xdvi <---

Yep.  teTeX needs X11.  Down, not across.

Wait, this isn't a.s.r.

> Send me some diffs and I'll run a few tests to see how serious a
> problem it is, OK?

Here's what I had (RELENG_4, probably applies to HEAD).  The sed script
hasn't been tested because the build didn't get that far before it blew
up.  Quite honestly, I don't feel like messing around with teTeX's build
process, so anyone who wants to take it from here, well, it's all yours.

Maybe we can just generate the PDF files external to the release process
and slap 'em in the CDROM area before the mkisofs step?

Bruce.

Index: Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.536.2.43
diff -u -r1.536.2.43 Makefile
--- Makefile	2001/06/05 16:09:25	1.536.2.43
+++ Makefile	2001/06/07 00:42:21
@@ -691,13 +691,16 @@
 	@for i in ${DIST_DOCS_ARCH_INDEP}; do \
 	  cp ${.CURDIR}/doc/${RELNOTES_LANG}/$$i/article.txt ${FD}/`echo $${i} | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'`.TXT; \
 	  cp ${.CURDIR}/doc/${RELNOTES_LANG}/$$i/article.html ${FD}/`echo $${i} | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'`.HTM; \
+	  cp ${.CURDIR}/doc/${RELNOTES_LANG}/$$i/article.pdf ${FD}/`echo $${i} | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'`.PDF; \
 	done
 	@for i in ${DIST_DOCS_ARCH_DEP}; do \
 	  cp ${.CURDIR}/doc/${RELNOTES_LANG}/$$i/${MACHINE_ARCH}/article.txt ${FD}/`echo $${i} | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'`.TXT; \
 	  cp ${.CURDIR}/doc/${RELNOTES_LANG}/$$i/${MACHINE_ARCH}/article.html ${FD}/`echo $${i} | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'`.HTM; \
+	  cp ${.CURDIR}/doc/${RELNOTES_LANG}/$$i/${MACHINE_ARCH}/article.pdf ${FD}/`echo $${i} | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'`.PDF; \
 	done
 	@mv ${FD}/INSTALLATION.TXT ${FD}/INSTALL.TXT
 	@mv ${FD}/INSTALLATION.HTM ${FD}/INSTALL.HTM
+	@mv ${FD}/INSTALLATION.PDF ${FD}/INSTALL.PDF
 .endif
 	@echo "CD_VERSION = ${BUILDNAME}" > ${FD}/cdrom.inf
 .if !defined(NOPORTS)
@@ -730,13 +733,16 @@
 	@for i in ${DIST_DOCS_ARCH_INDEP}; do \
 	  cp ${.CURDIR}/doc/${RELNOTES_LANG}/$$i/article.txt ${CD_DISC1}/`echo $${i} | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'`.TXT; \
 	  cp ${.CURDIR}/doc/${RELNOTES_LANG}/$$i/article.html ${CD_DISC1}/`echo $${i} | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'`.HTM; \
+	  cp ${.CURDIR}/doc/${RELNOTES_LANG}/$$i/article.pdf ${CD_DISC1}/`echo $${i} | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'`.PDF; \
 	done
 	@for i in ${DIST_DOCS_ARCH_DEP}; do \
 	  cp ${.CURDIR}/doc/${RELNOTES_LANG}/$$i/${MACHINE_ARCH}/article.txt ${CD_DISC1}/`echo $${i} | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'`.TXT; \
 	  cp ${.CURDIR}/doc/${RELNOTES_LANG}/$$i/${MACHINE_ARCH}/article.html ${CD_DISC1}/`echo $${i} | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'`.HTM; \
+	  cp ${.CURDIR}/doc/${RELNOTES_LANG}/$$i/${MACHINE_ARCH}/article.pdf ${CD_DISC1}/`echo $${i} | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'`.PDF; \
 	done
 	@mv ${CD_DISC1}/INSTALLATION.TXT ${CD_DISC1}/INSTALL.TXT
 	@mv ${CD_DISC1}/INSTALLATION.HTM ${CD_DISC1}/INSTALL.HTM
+	@mv ${CD_DISC1}/INSTALLATION.PDF ${CD_DISC1}/INSTALL.PDF
 .endif
 .if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == "alpha"
 	@echo "Setting up Alpha CD disc1 for booting"
@@ -760,8 +766,17 @@
 doc.1:
 	@echo "Making docs..."
 	@for i in ${DOCPORTS}; do \
-	  cd /usr/ports/$$i && make all install clean JADETEX=no FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=yes; \
+	  cd /usr/ports/$$i && make all install clean JADETEX=yes FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=yes; \
 	done
+	@mv /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf \
+		/usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf.orig
+	@sed < /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf.orig \
+		-e 's/original runtime path/runtime path/' \
+		-e 's/^hash_extra =.$/hash_extra = 60000/' \
+		-e 's/^pool_size =.$/pool_size = 1000000/' \
+		-e 's/^max_strings =.$/max_strings = 70000/' \
+		-e 's/^save_size =.$/save_size = 10000/'\
+		> /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
 	@cd /usr/doc && make all install 'FORMATS=html html-split txt' INSTALL_COMPRESSED='' DOCDIR=${RD}/trees/bin/usr/share/doc
 	touch doc.1
 
@@ -770,7 +785,7 @@
 #
 doc.2:
 	@echo "Making release documentation..."
-	@cd ${.CURDIR}/doc && make all 'FORMATS=html txt'
+	@cd ${.CURDIR}/doc && make all 'FORMATS=html pdf txt'
 	touch doc.2
 
 # Various "subroutine" and other supporting targets.
Index: Makefile.inc.docports
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/Makefile.inc.docports,v
retrieving revision 1.1.2.1
diff -u -r1.1.2.1 Makefile.inc.docports
--- Makefile.inc.docports	2001/06/05 16:09:25	1.1.2.1
+++ Makefile.inc.docports	2001/06/07 00:42:21
@@ -20,6 +20,8 @@
 	ports/graphics/png \
 	ports/graphics/tiff \
 	ports/print/ghostscript6 \
+	ports/print/jadetex \
+	ports/print/teTeX \
 	ports/textproc/docbook \
 	ports/textproc/docbook-241 \
 	ports/textproc/docbook-300 \
@@ -34,5 +36,6 @@
 	ports/textproc/linuxdoc \
 	ports/textproc/mkcatalog \
 	ports/textproc/sgmlformat \
+	ports/www/libwww \
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Every time I've tried to install FreeBSD I get stopped by these grey boxes
with terms like

Host:			Domain:

IPv4 Gateway:	Name server:


IPv4 Address:	Netmask:


Extra options to ifconfig:

Is it assumed that I know what to type in here?

I ask my Internet Service Provider for these names and numbers but he just
said
"You don't need those for anything, what's FreeBSD anyway?"

I can't find anything clearly stated in the documentation that will help me
understand the differences between these names and numbers.

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At 22:10 06-06-2001 +0200, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
>Why do you use the full-fledged variant of creating links to manual pages?

Because it's easier for me, while DocBook does not care.

>And the formatting and indentation needed a couple pats with a hammer,
>please take a look at chapter 10.1 of the FDP primer. The URL is
>http://www.freeBSD.org/tutorials/docproj-primer/writing-style.html#AEN2973

As I said before, I originally wrote it as a tutorial for my web
site. I used hed, a tool of my design that prevents me from making
stupid HTML errors. It also cuts out all white space that HTML does
not need, which makes it smaller and, thus, faster to transmit.

That means I cannot add indentation to the output (I do have
indentation in my source code). I only can force it to add extra
line feeds.

>I've already fixed the formatting and indentation (suppe plus some manual
>fixes) as well as the citerefentry stuff.

What's wrong with the citerefentry? Any changes you make to my sgml
(which is produced by software, not by hand) will mean that whenever
I make a small change, such as correcting a spelling error, the diff
will be bigger than the file itself.

Why does it *have to* be indented a certain way? No one reads the sgml,
do they? Only the HTML, etc, produced by it.

I have just spent two days writing a brief article using direct
sgml and the style you like. I made a ton of errors such as
<emphasis>blah</empahsis> (not the misspelling of the closing
tag). I cannot make these errors in my own language, where I use
brief variables. E.g., $emp(blah) will be automatically converted
into <emphasis>blah</emphasis> when producing the sgml output,
and to <i>blah</i> when producing the HTML output.

If there is a filter that can reformat the sgml output on the
fly (like tidy does for HTML), I am willing to use it, but
other than that I am not about to reformat it by hand every time
I change something.

> I've put a snapshot online at
>http://people.freebsd.org/~ue/x86-snapshot.sgml for fruther review.

Well, this is what it looks like:

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /~ue/x86-snapshot.sgml
on this server.

Adam

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At 19:16 06-06-2001 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
>> Yes. But my question was about subsections from another chapter written
>> by someone else and not having an ID. Can I just submit a diff which
>> would give it an ID?
>
>Yes.  Please follow the convention that subsection IDs start with the ID
>of the chapter in which they appear, followed by a hyphen, and then the
>identifier.

OK, thanks. Will do. In the same spirit, I have marked all sections
in my tutorial with id's that all start with "x86-".

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The handbook is broken ...

-Wolfram

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Just leave the bug on me. I'll have a look at the man pages sometime
soon and add them. It's not as straightforward as copying them across,
due to subtle differences.

Nick


> Synopsis: missing usb man pages
> 
> Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->n_hibma
> Responsible-Changed-By: dd
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> Over to USB guy.
> Nick, if this is just a matter of importing the man pages and you don't have
> time, I'll import them for you if you can tell me where to find them.
> 
> http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27919
> 

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Fixed.

Wolfram Schneider <wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org> writes:
> The handbook is broken ...
> 
> -Wolfram
> 
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> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:10:09 -0700 (PDT)
> From: wosch@FreeBSD.org (Cron Daemon)
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> Subject: Cron <wosch@freefall> $HOME/bin/myupdate
> 
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/staff/ch
> apter.sgml:847:15:E: document type does not allow element "LISTITEM" here; mi
> ssing one of "ITEMIZEDLIST", "ORDEREDLIST" start-tag
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/staff/ch
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> /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/staff/ch
> apter.sgml:855:15:E: document type does not allow element "LISTITEM" here; mi
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> /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/staff/ch
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> /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/staff/ch
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> /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/staff/ch
> apter.sgml:951:15:E: document type does not allow element "LISTITEM" here; mi
> ssing one of "ITEMIZEDLIST", "ORDEREDLIST" start-tag
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/staff/ch
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> ssing one of "ITEMIZEDLIST", "ORDEREDLIST" start-tag
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/staff/ch
> apter.sgml:959:15:E: document type does not allow element "LISTITEM" here; mi
> ssing one of "ITEMIZEDLIST", "ORDEREDLIST" start-tag
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/staff/ch
> apter.sgml:963:15:E: document type does not allow element "LISTITEM" here; mi
> ssing one of "ITEMIZEDLIST", "ORDEREDLIST" start-tag
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/staff/ch
> apter.sgml:967:15:E: document type does not allow element "LISTITEM" here; mi
> ssing one of "ITEMIZEDLIST", "ORDEREDLIST" start-tag
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/staff/ch
> apter.sgml:971:15:E: document type does not allow element "LISTITEM" here; mi
> ssing one of "ITEMIZEDLIST", "ORDEREDLIST" start-tag
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/staff/ch
> apter.sgml:975:15:E: document type does not allow element "LISTITEM" here; mi
> ssing one of "ITEMIZEDLIST", "ORDEREDLIST" start-tag
> /usr/local/bin/jade:I: maximum number of errors (200) reached; change with -E
>  option
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1.
> *** Error code 1

> Stop in /c/www/build/www/en/doc.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /c/www/build/www/en.
>       247.89 real       171.42 user         3.51 sys
> 
> 
> ----- End forwarded message -----
> 
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From owner-freebsd-doc  Thu Jun  7  2:41:59 2001
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I need a driver for a linux-based system. for telecommunnication....

please answer quickly.......

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Christian.Thiemann@bertelsmann.de schrieb:
> 
> I need a driver for a linux-based system. for telecommunnication....
> 
> please answer quickly.......

Sorry, ISDN4BSD is for BSD systems (obviously). Have a look at I4L
(ISDN4Linux) instead.

HTH
-Christoph Sold

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Synopsis: man 5 passwd does not properly explain the format of /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd

State-Changed-From-To: suspended->open
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State-Changed-When: Thu Jun 7 06:24:01 PDT 2001
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Damn edit-pr(1), this wasn't supposed to be suspended.


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This actually belongs to the "docs" category.
-CURRENT's passwd(5) manpage has all the necessary bits.

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27915

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>Number:         27937
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       A minor inconsistency in the sysctl(8) manpage
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Jun 07 07:20:01 PDT 2001
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Yar Tikhiy
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386
>Organization:
Moscow State University
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD bsd.chem.msu.ru 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #1: Thu Jun 7 12:22:10 MSD 2001 yar@bsd.chem.msu.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BSD i386

>Description:
	The sysctl(8) manpage in its "SEE ALSO" section refers to
	the blackhole(4) manpage. IMHO that is inconsistent: We should
	either refer to all the manpages with sysctl MIB descriptions,
	or to no of them at all.

>How-To-Repeat:
	$ man 8 sysctl

>Fix:
	Remove the xref or add a xref for every manpage describing MIBs.
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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Hi Nick,
  Is the PDF format uploaded .
Can we get now.
Please let me know.
Regards,
Sumanth
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On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 11:15:27PM -0500, Charley wrote:
> Every time I've tried to install FreeBSD I get stopped by these grey boxes
> with terms like
>=20
> Host:			Domain:
>=20
> IPv4 Gateway:	Name server:
>=20
>=20
> IPv4 Address:	Netmask:
>=20
>=20
> Extra options to ifconfig:
>=20
> Is it assumed that I know what to type in here?

Pretty much, as they're required to get networking going.

You may find the tutorial at

    http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/sgml_prev/

to be useful, and in particular, sections 12.3 and 14.

If the networking has you completely stumped at this point, you may find
it easier just to buy the CDs.

N
--=20
FreeBSD: The Power to Serve             http://www.freebsd.org/
FreeBSD Documentation Project           http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/

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At Thu, 7 Jun 2001 18:15:09 -0700 (PDT),
Dima Dorfman wrote:
> 
> dd          2001/06/07 18:15:09 PDT
> 
>   Modified files:
>     en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge chapter.sgml 
>   Log:
>   Use the new &os;, &os.stable;, and &os.current; entities where
>   appropriate.  This document's spelling of "FreeBSD-STABLE" and the
>   like is now consistent with itself.
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.70      +78 -79    doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml

Is this modification required to include <!ENTITY> in book.sgml?


See: http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~kuriyama/docbuild/doc-all.log

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Synopsis: A minor inconsistency in the sysctl(8) manpage

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I've removed the xref.


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I'll MFC in a few days.

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Strictly speaking, we do have latex as a separate port which doesn't
pull in the quite the monstrosities that teTex requires.

In principle, one could either modify the existing jadetex port
to optionally or exclusively require only latex. I presume jadetex
doesn't fundamentally require much beyond pdf(la)tex (which is in latex).

Latex is pretty big but not quite unthinkably so.

If this functionality (PDF on release) is considered quite nice
and nobody else wants to jump on it, I might have a go at converting
the jadetex port with the assistance of the current maintainer.

- Mark

On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 04:29:00PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> Argh, 3 additional ports sure sounds small but then you mention bloody
> ** teTex **, an application which is probably larger than FreeBSD
> itself, and I go a funny shade of grey when I think of that getting
> built on the snapshot boxes. ;)
> 
> Send me some diffs and I'll run a few tests to see how serious a
> problem it is, OK?
> 
> - Jordan
> 
> 
> From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah)
> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RELNOTESng now default in 4-STABLE, *.TXT files removed 
> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 15:01:32 -0700
> 
> > If memory serves me right, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > > From: "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RELNOTESng now default in 4-STABLE, *.TXT files remove
> > > d 
> > > Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:34:47 -0700
> > > 
> > > > It'd be real easy for us to do...it's roughly a five-line change to src/
> > > > release/Makefile.  In fact I almost did this for the FTP area.  For the
> > > > CDROM, I would like to know what the release engineer(s) think, since
> > > > they may have some space constraints.  I need about 500 KB for the
> > > > PDF files for RELENG_4, as it stands today.
> > 
> > Apparently, I lied when I said it was real easy.  For starters, it's a 
> > seven-line patch, as I initially envisioned it.  However...
> > 
> > > The release engineer fully supports this idea for FTP and CDROM.
> > 
> > Testing revealed a small problem I'd forgotten...during a release, we
> > build the textproc/docproj port with JADETEX=NO, which eliminates the
> > build of the print/jadetex port, as well as the (huge) print/teTeX port.
> > If we want to build PDF documents, we'll have to set JADETEX=YES and
> > consequently build three new ports at release time (one of them, teTeX,
> > is pretty big).
> > 
> > Just for posterity's sake, the additional ports that need to be built
> > are:
> > 
> > 	print/jadetex
> > 	print/teTeX
> > 	www/libwww
> > 
> > We also need to edit /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf in 
> > the chroot area to reflect the larger memory settings required.
> > A simple sed script can handle this part.
> > 
> > Not rocket science to do, but it'll make releases take longer (I haven't
> > quantified this).  I think it's worth doing anyways, but I thought I'd 
> > bring this up.
> > 
> > Bruce.
> > 
> > 
> 
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If memory serves me right, Mark Blackman wrote:
> Strictly speaking, we do have latex as a separate port which doesn't
> pull in the quite the monstrosities that teTex requires.
> 
> In principle, one could either modify the existing jadetex port
> to optionally or exclusively require only latex. I presume jadetex
> doesn't fundamentally require much beyond pdf(la)tex (which is in latex).
> 
> Latex is pretty big but not quite unthinkably so.
> 
> If this functionality (PDF on release) is considered quite nice
> and nobody else wants to jump on it, I might have a go at converting
> the jadetex port with the assistance of the current maintainer.

Well...jkh and I both like the idea.  

I'm not sure what (if any) other issues there are, since I'm pretty
ignorant of the differences between the latex and teTeX ports.

Another thought:  I was just wondering if there might be a way to
disable the xdvi build/install in the teTeX build, so we could just
check for NO_X when building teTeX (the release building process already
defines NO_X, principally for use by print/ghostscript6).  I noticed a
whole lot of configure options getting passed as a part of teTeX's
build, but I haven't really investigated.

Thanks!

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teTeX is to laTeX as  Office 2000 is to Word 2000.

teTeX is simply a tightly integrated set of packages that you
might ever want to use with tex and laTeX.

laTeX itself however is the core macro processing package, which
depends on tex for the typesetting. laTeX doesn't depend on
*any* X libraries or ghostscript of any of that nice extra
stuff. laTeX only depends on 'tex' itself.

I would even go so far as to suggest that it isn't actually
appropriate for jadetex to depend on teTeX as I don't think
it requires all of that bloatware that teTeX includes. There is
even the remote possibility that jadetex only requires tex
and not latex.

Only somebody who understand jadetex (not me) could confirm
that. As Nik is the maintainer I suspect he can answer the
question.

- Mark

> If memory serves me right, Mark Blackman wrote:
> > Strictly speaking, we do have laTeX as a separate port which doesn't
> > pull in the quite the monstrosities that teTex requires.
> > 
> > In principle, one could either modify the existing jadetex port
> > to optionally or exclusively require only laTeX. I presume jadetex
> > doesn't fundamentally require much beyond pdf(la)tex (which is in
> laTeX).
> > 
> > Latex is pretty big but not quite unthinkably so.
> > 
> > If this functionality (PDF on release) is considered quite nice
> > and nobody else wants to jump on it, I might have a go at converting
> > the jadetex port with the assistance of the current maintainer.
> 
> Well...jkh and I both like the idea.  
> 
> I'm not sure what (if any) other issues there are, since I'm pretty
> ignorant of the differences between the laTeX and teTeX ports.
> 
> Another thought:  I was just wondering if there might be a way to
> disable the xdvi build/install in the teTeX build, so we could just
> check for NO_X when building teTeX (the release building process already
> defines NO_X, principally for use by print/ghostscript6).  I noticed a
> whole lot of configure options getting passed as a part of teTeX's
> build, but I haven't really investigated.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Bruce.
> 
> 

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If memory serves me right, "Mark Blackman" wrote:

> teTeX is to laTeX as  Office 2000 is to Word 2000.

OK.  At least neither one has that idiotic paper clip.  :-)

(Yes, I know about editors/vigor.)

> I would even go so far as to suggest that it isn't actually
> appropriate for jadetex to depend on teTeX as I don't think
> it requires all of that bloatware that teTeX includes. There is
> even the remote possibility that jadetex only requires tex
> and not latex.

Sounds reasonable to me, but then again, I just use this stuff 
indirectly.  I haven't written any "real" TeX in almost ten years.

Looking forward to seeing what you and nik come up with...

Bruce.




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Silly question for most of the subscribers, I'm sure...

Is XML a subset of SGML?


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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:01:33 +0300
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On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 05:35:53AM -0700, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
[...]
>   - Added the ``only'' keyword to the -s and -S flags, that
>     could be used to created "proxy-only" published entries.
>     Previously, arp(8) created an entry of this type only
>     in the absence of the route to a destination.
>   
[...]

Section 21.12 of Stevens TCP/IP Illustrated Vol. 2 has an excellent
description of what these two types of proxy ARP entries are, and
how they could be useful.

If anyone fluent both in ARP and English could rephrase these words
(due to the (C) restrictions) for inclusion into the arp(8) manpage,
this would be much appreciated.

If you do, but you don't have the book, please drop me a letter,
or find me on IRC.


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On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 09:38:58PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> Silly question for most of the subscribers, I'm sure...
> 
> Is XML a subset of SGML?

Hello!

You can think of XML as SGMLng. (next generation.) So no, it is not a
subset, it is the designated successor. :-)

-- 
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Szilveszter Adam said on Jun  8, 2001 at 20:52:27:
> On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 09:38:58PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > Silly question for most of the subscribers, I'm sure...
> > 
> > Is XML a subset of SGML?
> 
> Hello!
> 
> You can think of XML as SGMLng. (next generation.) So no, it is not a
> subset, it is the designated successor. :-)

According to
http://www.ucc.ie/xml/#FAQ-SAME
it's a subset, or an "abbreviated version".

-Rahul

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On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 09:01:12PM +0200, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> http://www.ucc.ie/xml/#FAQ-SAME
> it's a subset, or an "abbreviated version".

  XML also imposes a more strict set of rules about well-formed
documents so that parsers are easier to write than for the notoriously
loose SGML.  In this way I suppose it could be thought of as a
"subset".  I haven't been able to find anything better than Jade /
DSSSL at producing output formats so I'm still using those with the
limited XML documents that I work with.

	- Murray

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The chapters of the introductory book on FreeBSD on my
ftp server are revised as of yesterday, with a few
substantive corrections and many formatting and typo
corrections.  

ftp andrsn.stanford.edu/pub/introbook/*.pdf

Nik Clayton has sent me some comments 
through Chapter 8, and I'm especially interested in
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9  Packages
10 Ports
11 Software
12 Connecting
13 Sound
14 X
15 Printing
16 Kernel
17 Upgrading

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[ Testing a new mail client.  If this looks screwy, please let me know ]

On Friday 25 May 2001  7:25 am, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 05:42:53PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
> > So the user would write;
> >
> >    <citerefentry vendor="XFree86">
> >      <refentrytitle>X</refentrytitle>
> >      <manvolnum>1</manvolnum>
> >    </citerefentry>
> >
> > and we have to come up with a list of recognised vendors.
>
> Sounds good.
>
> > Here's a proof of concept implementation (I've got a load of cruft
> > in my local freebsd.dsl, so these are cut-n-paste, not patches).
>
> [patches snipped]
>
> That seems to be exactly what I dreamed of. I'll give them a spin
> after work...

Any news?

N
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On Friday 08 June 2001  7:38 pm, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> Silly question for most of the subscribers, I'm sure...
>
> Is XML a subset of SGML?

Yes it is.  A well formed XML document is also a well formed SGML 
document.  However, the reverse is not necessarily the case, as SGML 
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Synopsis: doc.html.mk: use OpenJade on alpha

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Fixed a while ago.  Thanks for the PR.

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25892

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On Monday 04 June 2001 11:49 pm, Ronald C Price wrote:
> I have a question on the (7.3.)building and installing of a custom kernal
> documentation. What is "world" and how do I build. I have referred to
> your errata page and did not see anything.

It comes from the command used to recompile all of FreeBSD.

This is done using a program called "make", which takes a number of 
possible options on the command line, and make reads a configuration file 
(a Makefile) which tells it what to bu

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On Friday 08 June 2001  7:38 pm, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
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>
> Is XML a subset of SGML?

Yes it is.  A well formed XML document is also a well formed SGML 
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On Friday 08 June 2001  8:55 am, Mark Blackman wrote:
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> pull in the quite the monstrosities that teTex requires.
>
> In principle, one could either modify the existing jadetex port
> to optionally or exclusively r

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On Friday 08 June 2001  8:55 am, Mark Blackman wrote:
> Strictly speaking, we do have latex as a separate port which doesn't
> pull in the quite the monstrosities that teTex requires.
>
> In principle, one could either modify the existing jadetex port
> to optionally or exclusively require only latex. I presume jadetex
> doesn't fundamentally require much beyond pdf(la)tex (which is in latex).
>
> Latex is pretty big but not quite unthinkably so.
>
> If this functionality (PDF on release) is considered quite nice
> and nobody else wants to jump on it, I might have a go at converting
> the jadetex port with the assistance of the current maintainer.

That would be me.  I know very, very little about TeX.  We use teTeX 
because the guy that wrote JadeTeX used it, and provide sufficient 
documentation that I was able to get it working with the assistance of many 
people.

Please, if you can reduce the size of the TeX dependency then go ahead and 
do so.  Unfortunately, I won't be much help.

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On Monday 04 June 2001 11:49 pm, Ronald C Price wrote:
> I have a question on the (7.3.)building and installing of a custom kernal
> documentation. What is "world" and how do I build. I have referred to
> your errata page and did not see anything.

It comes from the command used to recompile all of FreeBSD.

This is done using a program called "make", which takes a number of 
possible options on the command line, and make reads a configuration file 
(a Makefile) which tells it what to build.  The Makefile specifies what 
some of the valid options to make are.  We call these "targets".

In many cases, the Makefile contains information about more than one 
target, and many of these targets have traditional names, like "all", 
"install", or "clean" -- so the command line might look like

    make all
    make install
    make clean

and so on.

Traditionally, the target to use for any big software project is called 
"world", so the command line would be 

    make world

This then gives rise to slang terms like "re-make the world", or "don't 
forget to rebuild the world after you do this".  If you take a look at the 
chapter again (on the website) you should see a link to 

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html

which has more details about how you actually go about running "make world".

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On Thursday 07 June 2001  4:27 pm, sumanth vidyadhara wrote:
>   Is the PDF format uploaded .

It's not on the main FTP site (I'm still building up the new machine 
<insert rant about suppliers who forgot to send the SCSI cards with the 
order>) but in the meantime, you can download it as

    http://people.freebsd.org/~nik/book.pdf.gz

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On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 03:11:02PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
> That would be me.  I know very, very little about TeX.  We use teTeX=20
> because the guy that wrote JadeTeX used it, and provide sufficient=20
> documentation that I was able to get it working with the assistance of ma=
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> people.
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> Please, if you can reduce the size of the TeX dependency then go ahead an=
d=20
> do so.  Unfortunately, I won't be much help.

On quick plea for anyone who takes this on.  Please try to keep the
current situtation where JadeTeX can use teTeX because some of us use
teTeX directly and we really don't want to version of TeX around.

Thanks,
Brooks

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>Number:         28000
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       adding and changing information in vidcontrol(1)
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sat Jun 09 17:10:01 PDT 2001
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Robert Drehmel
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
>Environment:

System: FreeBSD zoot.quizbot.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #3: Sat Jun 9 01:27:13 CEST 2001 root@zoot:/data/sys/compile/ZOOT i386

>Description:

This patch adds and corrects some information in the vidcontrol(1) manual
page.

>How-To-Repeat:

>Fix:

Index: vidcontrol.1
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/vidcontrol/vidcontrol.1,v
retrieving revision 1.39
diff -r1.39 vidcontrol.1
291c291
< PC video memory is typically arranged in two byte tuples,
---
> VGA video memory is typically arranged in two byte tuples,
293,300c293,311
< In each tuple, the first byte
< will be the character code, and the second byte is the
< character's color attribute.
< .Pp
< The color attribute byte is further broken down in to the
< low nibble, which specifies which of 16 different foreground
< colors is active, and the high nibble, which specifies which
< of 16 different background colors is active.
---
> In each tuple, the first byte will be the character code,
> and the second byte is the character's color attribute.
> .Pp
> The syscons driver converts the ^[[Nm terminal escapes
> into the corresponding attribute bytes.
> .Pp
> The VGA color attribute byte looks like this:
> .Pp
> .Bl -column "X:X" "<00000000>" "width" "bright foreground color"
> .Sy bits# Ta Ta Sy width Ta Sy meaning
> .Li 7   Ta <X0000000> Ta 1 Ta character blinking
> .Li 6:4 Ta <0XXX0000> Ta 3 Ta background color
> .Li 3   Ta <0000X000> Ta 1 Ta bright foreground color
> .Li 2:0 Ta <00000XXX> Ta 3 Ta foreground color
> .El
> .Pp
> Here is a list of the three bit wide base colors with
> their corresponding ANSI terminal escape codes
> parenthesized (add 10 to get the background code):
304c315
< Black
---
> Black (30)
306c317
< Blue
---
> Blue (34)
308c319
< Green
---
> Green (32)
310c321
< Cyan
---
> Cyan (36)
312c323
< Red
---
> Red (31)
314c325
< Magenta
---
> Magenta (35)
316c327
< Brown
---
> Brown (33)
318,321c329,339
< White
< .It 8
< Grey
< .It 9
---
> Light Grey (37)
> .El
> .Pp
> Base colors with bit 3 (the bright foreground flag)
> set.  The terminal escape for successive bright text
> is ^[[1m.
> .Pp
> .Bl -hang -offset indent -compact
> .It 0
> Dark Grey
> .It 1
323c341
< .It 10
---
> .It 2
325c343
< .It 11
---
> .It 3
327c345
< .It 12
---
> .It 4
329c347
< .It 13
---
> .It 5 
331c349
< .It 14
---
> .It 6
333c351
< .It 15
---
> .It 7
336,338c354
< .Pp
< It can be seen that the last 8 colors are brighter
< versions of the first 8.
---
> .lt 1
344,346c360,362
< specify an uppercase A (character code 65), in
< yellow (low nibble 15) on a light blue background
< (high nibble 9).
---
> specify an uppercase A (character code 65), blinking
> (bit 7 set) in yellow (bits 3:0) on a blue background
> (bits 6:4).
490a507
> .An Robert Drehmel Aq robert@zoot.quizbot.org

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The following reply was made to PR docs/28000; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dima Dorfman <dima@unixfreak.org>
To: Robert Drehmel <robert@zoot.quizbot.org>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/28000: adding and changing information in vidcontrol(1) 
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 17:21:45 -0700

 Robert Drehmel <robert@zoot.quizbot.org> writes:
 > Index: vidcontrol.1
 > ===================================================================
 > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/vidcontrol/vidcontrol.1,v
 > retrieving revision 1.39
 > diff -r1.39 vidcontrol.1
 > 291c291
 > < PC video memory is typically arranged in two byte tuples,
 > ---
 > > VGA video memory is typically arranged in two byte tuples,
 
 Please submit a context diff.  Unified is preferred, but any context
 diff is better than this.
 
 > 490a507
 > > .An Robert Drehmel Aq robert@zoot.quizbot.org
 
 I don't think this last bit is appropriate.  This is a list of *major*
 contributers.  We can't possibly list all contributors directly in the
 man page; that's what CVS logs are for.
 
 Regards,
 
 					Dima Dorfman
 					dima@unixfreak.org

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Dima Dorfman wrote:
>  > 490a507
>  > > .An Robert Drehmel Aq robert@zoot.quizbot.org
> 
>  I don't think this last bit is appropriate.  This is a list of *major*
>  contributers.  We can't possibly list all contributors directly in the
>  man page; that's what CVS logs are for.

I don't give a damn about being mentioned anywhere.
Looks like I just misunderstood the purpose of this
section.

ciao,
-robert

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