From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 1:45:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7A737B408; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 01:45:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv@worldnet.att.net) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([32.101.235.226]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010812084520.BLWU3707.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net>; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:45:20 +0000 Received: by worldnet.att.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CA38D50BD3; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 04:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 04:45:14 -0400 From: parv To: f-doc Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: how to start on css'fying the web site? Message-ID: <20010812044514.A78577@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: f-doc , freebsd-www@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org is there anybody working on changing the freebsd website to use css? who do i need to contact in any case if i want to do so? may be the -www list? -- so, do you like word games or scrabble? - parv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 2:12: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8330C37B40A; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 02:12:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:290:27ff:fe98:c0b7]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620AF24D1C; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:12:01 +0900 (JST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE6DD1401; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:11:59 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:11:56 +0900 Message-ID: <7m3d6xhcbn.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: parv Cc: f-doc , freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to start on css'fying the web site? In-Reply-To: <20010812044514.A78577@moo.holy.cow> References: <20010812044514.A78577@moo.holy.cow> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Sun, 12 Aug 2001 04:45:14 -0400, parv wrote: > is there anybody working on changing the freebsd website > to use css? > > who do i need to contact in any case if i want to do so? > may be the -www list? I'm planning to re-organize toppage design of www.FreeBSD.org. Before doing that, I should list contents which should appear on the toppage. Please wait until that happens. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 4:21:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE89E37B40B; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 04:21:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7CA3ID75456; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:03:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:03:17 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: parv Cc: f-doc , freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to start on css'fying the web site? Message-ID: <20010812110317.O50182@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010812044514.A78577@moo.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UFMLoheMaWcIEZAi" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010812044514.A78577@moo.holy.cow>; from parv_@yahoo.com on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 04:45:14AM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --UFMLoheMaWcIEZAi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 04:45:14AM -0400, parv wrote: > is there anybody working on changing the freebsd website=20 > to use css? Not that I'm aware of. It's something that's been on my list of things I want to get around to for a time, but there's been no spare time. > who do i need to contact in any case if i want to do so? > may be the -www list? doc@ is fine, I think. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --UFMLoheMaWcIEZAi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEUEARECAAYFAjt2VGQACgkQk6gHZCw343V1ZwCY1u59peMpoxeQrXgICQxeLjwP QACfW+YhYLGQ3FjJFSSLvQH56SF34vE= =d/2l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UFMLoheMaWcIEZAi-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 5:36:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rhein-zeitung.de (mail.rhein-zeitung.DE [195.189.135.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EB337B407 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:36:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mheinen0@wiesbaden-online.de) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (pppin136.max-mainz.rz-online.NET [212.7.164.136]) by mail.rhein-zeitung.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7CCacK24932; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:36:39 +0200 X-Resent-From: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Envelope-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Moses.earth.sol (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f7CCabY06454; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:36:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vincent) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:36:35 +0200 From: Martin Heinen To: Randy Pratt Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook addition: Install Message-ID: <20010812143635.A6425@Moses.earth.sol> References: <01081121030602.00381@k6-2.weeble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01081121030602.00381@k6-2.weeble.com>; from rpratt@ezwv.com on Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 09:03:06PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 09:03:06PM -0400, Randy Pratt wrote: > I've finished the planned additions to the Handbook for installing (Section > 2). I've posted the entire Handbook build but only the following sections > are involved: > > 2.2 Preparing For Installation (unmodified except for section title) > 2.3 Pre-Installation (new) > 2.4 Installation (new) > 2.5 Post-installation (new) [ ... ] > I'll merge my additions into the latest chapter.sgml version before > committing next week. This will still leave some time for more improvements > before the 4.4 release. In chapter 'Configuration and Tuning' the handbook recommends to turn on Soft Updates. Although the possibility to do so is mentioned in '2.4.9 DiskLabel Editor Help' we should show a picture containing filesystems with Soft Updates enabled. May be 'Figure 2-26. Sysinstall Disklabel Editor' is a good place to show this? Martin -- Marxpitn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 5:55: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA3337B407; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:55:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@ark.cris.net) Received: from ark.cris.net (ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28950; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:54:57 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f7CCsoB48932; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:54:50 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:54:50 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: parv Cc: f-doc , freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to start on css'fying the web site? Message-ID: <20010812155450.B46884@ark.cris.net> References: <20010812044514.A78577@moo.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20010812044514.A78577@moo.holy.cow>; from parv_@yahoo.com on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 04:45:14AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 04:45:14AM -0400, parv wrote: > is there anybody working on changing the freebsd website > to use css? I don't think that it's a problem. You just need to write appropriate CSS file and put link to it to doc.hdr file. Since we're using SGML to generate website's HTML files applying global changes to all headers (footers) is quite trivial task. > > who do i need to contact in any case if i want to do so? > may be the -www list? > > > -- > so, do you like word games or scrabble? > - parv > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 7:26:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi (h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi [193.166.84.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2FA37B407 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:26:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chu@gpi.ru) Received: from gpi.ru (chu@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi (8.11.5/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7CEQau52460 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:26:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from chu@gpi.ru) Message-ID: <3B769219.E82A3A2C@gpi.ru> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:26:33 +0300 From: Vladimir Tchoukharev X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en, fi MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Extra "the" in fdp-primer Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------E4017F0F3D5AC0B8AF426AC1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------E4017F0F3D5AC0B8AF426AC1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A minor correction to fdp-primer is in the patch. Best regards, V. Tchoukharev --------------E4017F0F3D5AC0B8AF426AC1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="p.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="p.patch" --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-markup/chapter.sgml.orig Thu Jul 19 21:34:05 2001 +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-markup/chapter.sgml Sun Aug 12 17:15:29 2001 @@ -946,7 +946,7 @@ This example includes section numbers in the section titles. You should not do this in your documents. Adding the section - numbers is carried out the by the stylesheets (of which more + numbers is carried out by the stylesheets (of which more later), and you do not need to manage them yourself. --------------E4017F0F3D5AC0B8AF426AC1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 7:36: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.ihug.co.nz (smtp4.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D818237B405 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:36:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e_URL@ihug.co.nz) Received: from smtp.ihug.co.nz (203-173-247-12.nzwide.ihug.co.nz [203.173.247.12]) by smtp4.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id CAA24835 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 02:36:00 +1200 X-Authentication-Warning: smtp4.ihug.co.nz: Host 203-173-247-12.nzwide.ihug.co.nz [203.173.247.12] claimed to be smtp.ihug.co.nz Message-Id: <997626632.270@ihug.co.nz> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 02:30:32 -1200 To: doc@freebsd.org From: e_URL@ihug.co.nz (DoS Research) Subject: Denial of Service Research MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sir/Madam Our names are Leon Shu and John Zheng. We are students at the UNITEC Institute of Technology (New Zealand), and currently working on a DoS/DDoS (Denial of service) research project, as required for our degree. For this project we conduct research on the analysis of the DoS/DDoS technologies and threats, as well as anti DoS/DDoS tools. As part of this research, we found your email on your web site. You could be of great help to us if you could fill out our on-line survey, which we have prepared for this project. In return, we will email you the summarised outcome of the project if you do provide your email address in the survey form. Please find the survey here: http://hyperdisc.unitec.ac.nz/dos_research/ the information you give us will be analysed and results will be presented in an anonymous, generic form. Please let us assure you that all your information will remain strictly confidential. Thank you very much for assisting us! if you need to contact us, please email to e_URL@hotmail.com Yours faithfully Leon & John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 12:32:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B7137B407 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:32:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id E4BDB4B65D; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:38:25 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: parv Cc: f-doc Subject: Re: need help w/ markup or proofreading? Message-ID: <20010812123825.D1586@windriver.com> References: <20010812002007.A94081@moo.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010812002007.A94081@moo.holy.cow>; from parv_@yahoo.com on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 12:20:08AM -0400 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 12:20:08AM -0400, parv wrote: > does anybody have any documentation projects which may need proofreading > and/or some markup? Yes! Please take a look at the FreeBSD Handbook : http://www.freebsd.org/handbook Just pick as many chapters as you have time for to proofread for technical accuracy and grammar mistakes. Many of these chapters could use significantly more content as well. Please submit any enhancements with send-pr(1). - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 12:32:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail20.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail20.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C164F37B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:32:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cigam@home.com) Received: from bb26680a ([24.77.181.37]) by femail20.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010812193224.WKTM26920.femail20.sdc1.sfba.home.com@bb26680a> for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:32:24 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01c12365$f6abae40$25b54d18@ok.shawcable.net> From: "Owen" To: Subject: Just a server... Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:35:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1232B.49E82100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1232B.49E82100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, First off, I think FreeBSD is great, and free OSs are one of the only = good things left about computers... My question is simple, I've installed FreeBSD 4 or 5 times, each time it = does not go into the graphical interface that I chose. This is fine, but = I just need to know what I should do to run/configure the apache server = which is all I intend the computer to run for. Can I run it from this = normal text boot?=20 Thank you very much Owen ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1232B.49E82100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
First off, I think FreeBSD is great, and free = OSs are=20 one of the only good things left about computers...
My question is simple, I've installed FreeBSD = 4 or 5=20 times, each time it does not go into the graphical interface that I = chose. This=20 is fine, but I just need to know what I should do to run/configure the = apache=20 server which is all I intend the computer to run for. Can I run it from = this=20 normal text boot?
Thank you very much
Owen
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1232B.49E82100-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 12:42:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BF737B407 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:42:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 506663E2F; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430C73C12B; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:42:05 -0700 (PDT) To: Vladimir Tchoukharev Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extra "the" in fdp-primer In-Reply-To: <3B769219.E82A3A2C@gpi.ru>; from chu@gpi.ru on "Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:26:33 +0300" Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:42:00 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010812194205.506663E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vladimir Tchoukharev writes: fixed, thanks. > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------E4017F0F3D5AC0B8AF426AC1 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > A minor correction to fdp-primer is in the patch. > > Best regards, > V. Tchoukharev > --------------E4017F0F3D5AC0B8AF426AC1 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > name="p.patch" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline; > filename="p.patch" > > --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-markup/chapter.sgml.orig Thu Jul > 19 21:34:05 2001 > +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-markup/chapter.sgml Sun Aug 12 17:1 > 5:29 2001 > @@ -946,7 +946,7 @@ > > This example includes section numbers in the section titles. > You should not do this in your documents. Adding the section > - numbers is carried out the by the stylesheets (of which more > + numbers is carried out by the stylesheets (of which more > later), and you do not need to manage them yourself. > > > > --------------E4017F0F3D5AC0B8AF426AC1-- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 12:54:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35CB37B403; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:54:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AEE41CC3017E; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:54:12 -0700 Message-ID: <3B76DEE2.3083C3FC@urx.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:54:10 -0700 From: Kent Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Owen Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Just a server... References: <000a01c12365$f6abae40$25b54d18@ok.shawcable.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Owen wrote: > > Hello, > First off, I think FreeBSD is great, and free OSs are one of the only > good things left about computers... > My question is simple, I've installed FreeBSD 4 or 5 times, each time > it does not go into the graphical interface that I chose. This is > fine, but I just need to know what I should do to run/configure the > apache server which is all I intend the computer to run for. Can I run > it from this normal text boot? This is the wrong place to ask such questions. I am copying it to freebsd-questions and bccing docs so that replies go to questions. You probably need to do a startx. For example, I use kde-2 and I have an .xinitrc that looks like the following coral# m .xinitrc exec startkde When I type startx, it invokes kde-2 for my desktop. Kent > Thank you very much > Owen -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA Cool site http://www.bmwfilms.com mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 13:58: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECFC37B40B for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:58:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv@worldnet.att.net) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([32.101.235.2]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010812205805.TJSK18077.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:58:05 +0000 Received: by worldnet.att.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3C7F250EE3; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:57:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:57:52 -0400 From: parv To: f-doc Subject: move (tutorial/docproj-primer) sec 8.4 between 8.1 & 8.2 Message-ID: <20010812165752.A32409@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: f-doc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i suggest moving "8.4 Environment variables" section somewhere in between "8.1 Preparation" and "8.2 Build the web pages from scratch". in order to environment variables take effect, they need to be set before making anything not after. not to mention, environment variables are part of the "preparation". -- so, do you like word games or scrabble? - parv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 14: 5:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow024o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD9537B406; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:05:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx.my.domain ([62.31.194.122]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:05:43 +0100 From: John Murphy To: Murray Stokely Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rethinking man page references in the Handbook Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:07:30 +0100 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: References: <20010807170037.O23183@windriver.com> <20010808025057.I23891@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010810140256.D28591@windriver.com> In-Reply-To: <20010810140256.D28591@windriver.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Murray Stokely wrote: >On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 02:50:57AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: >> > The second problem is that we simply use &man.cmd.sec; entities = too >> > often. There are many paragraphs that contain the same man entity = 4-5 >> > times which is very distracting. These entities are very useful but= I >> > think that we should only use them them the first time that a = command >> > is mentioned in a section, and then markup the command in >> > for future references in that paragraph and following ones. >>=20 >> What do you find distracting? The number of links that are generated = in >> the HTML output, or the proliferation of parentheses? > > Both. > >> If it's the former then that's some DSSSL that checks to see whether >> there's been any other elements to the same man page in >> the outermost enclosing element (probably up to the level) and >> omits the link if there have been. >>=20 >> If it's the latter then it's a probably a style issue. Can you = nominate >> a sample paragraph that you think goes over the top? > > Yep, how about this one : > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-program= s.html > (top of page) > > I think that most of the man entities here should be replaced with >s. Its distracting to read this section online or in print >format. ISWYM: Viewing with IE5.5, man links are colored, underlined _and_ show = the section number in brackets. I can switch off the underlining in the = browser, but I'd hope not to see underlined URLs etc. in the printed Handbook. = They seem distracting in Mr. Mittelstaedt's book. Perhaps the hyperlinked versions need nothing more than to be a link, = with the sektion number not shown. I can't think of a better way to express a manual reference in the printed (monochrome) target, than a bracketed = number; though the URL to which you refer is (hopefully) the most tedious case. OTOH: Maybe a different type face for manable words would look cool, for the printed version, if stated in the "Conventions used in this Book" = section. John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 15:41: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web13907.mail.yahoo.com (web13907.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C24FD37B40B for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:41:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stevenleblanc@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010812224107.80659.qmail@web13907.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.76.91.226] by web13907.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:41:07 PDT Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:41:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve LeBlanc Subject: update your FTP To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You have an OLD version of Resizer. Update your FTP site: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/tools/ From: http://members.nbci.com/Zeleps/ it says: Please do NOT use Partition Resizer (v.1.3.3 or earlier) to move non-FAT partitions ===== ----- Steve LeBlanc http://www.HealFeelings.com The beginning of wisdom is a definition of terms. - Socrates __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 16:59:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BA037B407 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:59:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv@worldnet.att.net) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([32.100.199.44]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010812235942.PTCZ15499.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:59:42 +0000 Received: by worldnet.att.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B1AFB50EEE; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:59:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:59:35 -0400 From: parv To: f-doc Subject: (docproj-primer) install problem related to 'www' group Message-ID: <20010812195935.A48007@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: f-doc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org so many undocumented variables... after changing/setting various make variables to my liking, when it came to installing 'www' pages, it failed due to lack of a 'www' group. some sort of warning/important note should be put somewhere in the primer, ch 8 about use of WEBGRP & CGIGRP in www/share/mk/web.site.mk. waiting for comments, in a day or three will file a pr... -- so, do you like word games or scrabble? - parv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 17: 9:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AAE37B40C for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:09:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv@worldnet.att.net) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([32.100.199.44]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010813000932.VLQU18077.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 00:09:32 +0000 Received: by worldnet.att.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 73ADB50EEE; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:09:25 -0400 From: parv To: f-doc Subject: (website) move towards xhtml Message-ID: <20010812200925.A49266@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: f-doc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org is there any effort, either ongoing or in the planning, to move the web pages away from html & towards xhtml (at least conforming to xhtml-transitional dtd)? -- so, do you like word games or scrabble? - parv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 17:16:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CBB37B401; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:16:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv@worldnet.att.net) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([32.100.199.44]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010813001625.THJT5127.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net>; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 00:16:25 +0000 Received: by worldnet.att.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E45EE50EEE; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:16:18 -0400 From: parv To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: f-doc , freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to start on css'fying the web site? Message-ID: <20010812201618.B49266@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Jun Kuriyama , f-doc , freebsd-www@freebsd.org References: <20010812044514.A78577@moo.holy.cow> <7m3d6xhcbn.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7m3d6xhcbn.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 06:11:56PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org this was, on the fateful occasion around Aug 12 05:11 -0400, sent by Jun Kuriyama > > At Sun, 12 Aug 2001 04:45:14 -0400, > parv wrote: > > is there anybody working on changing the freebsd website > > to use css? > > > > who do i need to contact in any case if i want to do so? > > may be the -www list? > > I'm planning to re-organize toppage design of www.FreeBSD.org. Before > doing that, I should list contents which should appear on the toppage. > > Please wait until that happens. ok... currently i am preouccpied w/ docproj-primer/tutorial & generally making myself familiar w/ the documentation project. -- so, do you like word games or scrabble? - parv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 19:20: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB74A37B40E for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7D2K0K62044; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B836237B40A for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:19:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7D2JxQ62023; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:19:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108130219.f7D2JxQ62023@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:19:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Johnson To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/29655: minor comment fixes in doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29655 >Category: docs >Synopsis: minor comment fixes in doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Aug 12 19:20:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Peter Johnson >Release: 4.3-STABLE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD matrix.bilogic.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #6: Sun Jul 1 20:41:50 CDT 2001 peter@matrix.bilogic.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WORKSTATION i386 >Description: There's a typo in the new authorgroup stuff (chapter1info instead of chapterinfo). And the comment for sgmltag is in the wrong place (the authorgroup stuff was inserted in between the comment and the sgmltag code). >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Patch: --- doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl Sun Aug 12 21:11:25 2001 +++ doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl.patched Sun Aug 12 21:12:33 2001 @@ -386,14 +386,6 @@ - - (element sgmltag ($mono-seq$ (make sequence >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 19:46: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB4B37B40C; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:46:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B860F6ACC1; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:16:29 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:16:29 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Punctuation round e.g. (was: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/gen getdiskbyname.3 getpwent.3 src/lib/libc/regex regex.3 src/lib/libc/sys clock_gettime.2 mlock.2 send.2 src/lib/libcam cam_cdbparse.3 src/lib/libdisk libdisk.3 src/lib/libedit editrc.5 src/lib/libm/common_source ...) Message-ID: <20010813121629.R48115@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200108101345.f7ADjaX90494@freefall.freebsd.org> <200108101509.f7AF93d32924@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108101509.f7AF93d32924@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>; from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu on Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 11:09:03AM -0400 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 10 August 2001 at 11:09:03 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> mdoc(7) police: protect trailing full stops of abbreviations >> with a trailing zero-width space: `e.g.\&'. > > I cannot think of any circumstance where `e.g.' (or `i.e.', for that > matter) is correct when not followed immediately by a comma or other > punctuation, *except* when used at the end of a sentence in which case > the end-of-sentence space is appropriate. This appears to be correct US usage, though I don't have final confirmation. It is explicitly *not* correct Australian usage. From the Commonwealth Style Manual, which is binding for official Australian publications, 6.73 Note also that commas should not be used: (b) after such abbreviations as: i.e. e.g. viz. Given that we have a principle not to change documentation which is correct in some version of English, I think that this commit is valid. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 19:47: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26C037B40B; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:46:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5ADC6ACBC; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:17:26 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:17:26 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/gen getdiskbyname.3 getpwent.3 src/lib/libc/regex regex.3 src/lib/libc/sys clock_gettime.2 mlock.2 send.2 src/lib/libcam cam_cdbparse.3 src/lib/libdisk libdisk.3 src/lib/libedit editrc.5 src/lib/libm/common_source ... Message-ID: <20010813121726.S48115@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200108101345.f7ADjaX90494@freefall.freebsd.org> <200108101509.f7AF93d32924@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20010810183000.A70373@sunbay.com> <200108101849.f7AIneH35664@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108101849.f7AIneH35664@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>; from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu on Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 02:49:40PM -0400 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 10 August 2001 at 14:49:40 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> Additionally, under the "eg" article of that same dictionary, I see: > >> "popular pets, eg dogs, cats and rabbits." > > Which dictionary? There appears to be a fashion in certain > Rightpondian circles never to put periods in abbreviations, but the > manual pages are written in Leftpondian English where doing so is > almost never correct. I'd say ``appeal to irrelevant authority''. Rightpondian? Leftpondian? US and Australia respectively? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 19:50: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CDD37B40D for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7D2o1f64046; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08F037B405 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7D2jCX63749; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108130245.f7D2jCX63749@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:45:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Johnson To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/29657: NICE_HEADERS conflicts with authorgroup generation Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29657 >Category: docs >Synopsis: NICE_HEADERS conflicts with authorgroup generation >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Aug 12 19:50:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Peter Johnson >Release: 4.3-STABLE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD matrix.bilogic.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #6: Sun Jul 1 20:41:50 CDT 2001 peter@matrix.bilogic.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WORKSTATION i386 >Description: When NICE_HEADERS=1 is used in combination with a chapter that has a chapterinfo section (which triggers the authorgroup stuff), the author information is placed with parts overlapping the NICE_HEADERS line. The problem appears to be caused by no spacing after the NICE_HEADERS rule output. >How-To-Repeat: Combine NICE_HEADERS=1, print output, and a chapter with a chapterinfo section. >Fix: I fixed it by adding a space-after: parameter to the NICE_HEADERS make rule, as the patch below does. There's probably a better way to do this, and this may have unintended side-effects (I haven't tested it very much). Plus, I'm not exactly sure what HSIZE # I should use, I chose 1 arbitrarily. --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl Sun Aug 12 21:11:05 2001 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl.patched Sun Aug 12 21:42:34 2001 @@ -160,6 +160,7 @@ length: 475pt display-alignment: 'start space-before: (* (HSIZE 5) %head-before-factor%) + space-after: (* (HSIZE 1) %head-after-factor%) line-thickness: 0.5pt))))) (element authorgroup >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 20: 0:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FFC37B40E for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:00:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 2974D4B65D; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:06:49 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Randy Pratt Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook addition: Install Message-ID: <20010812200649.D2216@windriver.com> References: <01081121030602.00381@k6-2.weeble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01081121030602.00381@k6-2.weeble.com>; from rpratt@ezwv.com on Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 09:03:06PM -0400 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 09:03:06PM -0400, Randy Pratt wrote: > http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/hdbk/view/ (html build) > http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/hdbk/src/ (sources) > > I'll merge my additions into the latest chapter.sgml version before > committing next week. This will still leave some time for more improvements > before the 4.4 release. Randy, I think these look great and the best way to get some rapid feedback on this is to just commit it! I think everyone is quite happy with your work on this chapter. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 23:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE58937B40D for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7D6U1102456; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from ns.any.ru (ns.any.ru [194.67.127.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F8337B40B for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:25:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from avn@ns.any.ru) Received: (from avn@localhost) by ns.any.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7D6McN48347 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org.AVP; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:22:38 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from avn) Received: (from avn@localhost) by ns.any.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7D6MXc48338; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:22:33 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from avn) Message-Id: <200108130622.f7D6MXc48338@ns.any.ru> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:22:33 +0400 (MSD) From: alex.neyman@auriga.ru Reply-To: alex.neyman@auriga.ru To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29666: doc/en_ISO8859-1/books/developer-handbook/introduction/chapter.sgml error Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29666 >Category: docs >Synopsis: doc/en_ISO8859-1/books/developer-handbook/introduction/chapter.sgml error >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Aug 12 23:30:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey V. Neyman >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386 >Organization: Auriga, Inc. >Environment: System: FreeBSD ns.any.ru 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #8: Tue Apr 17 17:03:08 MSD 2001 avn@ns.any.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMD4 i386 >Description: In a table explaining layout of FreeBSD source tree, it says that src/share "contains sources for /sbin binaries" - obviously wrong :) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: probably "Miscellaneous shared data" would be better? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 12 23:45:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD2937B409; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:45:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7D6dJK03283; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:39:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:39:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108130639.f7D6dJK03283@freefall.freebsd.org> To: alex.neyman@auriga.ru, jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29666: doc/en_ISO8859-1/books/developer-handbook/introduction/chapter.sgml error Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: doc/en_ISO8859-1/books/developer-handbook/introduction/chapter.sgml error State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jim State-Changed-When: Sun Aug 12 23:39:04 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29666 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 3:16:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDC437B409 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 03:16:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7D9mb284061; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:48:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:48:36 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: parv Cc: f-doc Subject: Re: (website) move towards xhtml Message-ID: <20010813104836.X50182@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010812200925.A49266@moo.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0k4Rxg87Lb8yV0u3" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010812200925.A49266@moo.holy.cow>; from parv_@yahoo.com on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 08:09:25PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0k4Rxg87Lb8yV0u3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 08:09:25PM -0400, parv wrote: > is there any effort, either ongoing or in the planning, to move the=20 > web pages away from html & towards xhtml (at least conforming to=20 > xhtml-transitional dtd)? XHTML is something I'm dimly aware of, lurking on the horizon, but it's not something I've done any serious investigation of. What would be the benefits / disadvantages of using XHTML? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --0k4Rxg87Lb8yV0u3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt3onMACgkQk6gHZCw343V9LgCeI6eTAifuoa1CgUcbENO1Bhkc rTUAn1j8i/Imqs73K1nuea5xS7olIDel =kYyA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0k4Rxg87Lb8yV0u3-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 3:16:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293AF37B40F for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 03:16:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7DA85w84164; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:08:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:08:04 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Randy Pratt Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook addition: Install Message-ID: <20010813110804.A84120@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <01081121030602.00381@k6-2.weeble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01081121030602.00381@k6-2.weeble.com>; from rpratt@ezwv.com on Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 09:03:06PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 09:03:06PM -0400, Randy Pratt wrote: > They are posted at: >=20 > http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/hdbk/view/ (html build) > http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/hdbk/src/ (sources) A couple of comments. I don't think we should be reproducing the help text in the Handbook,=20 unless we punt it to an appendix, or similar. It disrupts the flow of the text, and will confuse the reader if it gets out of sync with the text in sysinstall. I think the security profile section may now be out of date after Robert's recent changes. We should probably crop some of the images -- anything that shows a four line dialog box on a big blue background should really just be showing the dialog box, no background. This is something that can happen to the =2Escr files post-import though. Apart from those minor niggles, this is great. I'd suggest pulling out the help text, and then committing without delay. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt3pwMACgkQk6gHZCw343V6DACfZM0W/DlExbq6U4ftZTby5xTg PIMAmgKrO1aoR0R94f3IUOV35gA7hg8Q =UM+P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 4:55:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3101937B408; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 04:55:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv@worldnet.att.net) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([32.100.199.236]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010813115519.TCXL12706.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net>; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:55:19 +0000 Received: by worldnet.att.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 888EF50EEE; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 07:55:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 07:55:17 -0400 From: parv To: Nik Clayton Cc: f-doc Subject: Re: (website) move towards xhtml Message-ID: <20010813075517.A16251@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Nik Clayton , f-doc References: <20010812200925.A49266@moo.holy.cow> <20010813104836.X50182@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010813104836.X50182@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 10:48:36AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org this was, on the fateful occasion around Aug 13 05:48 -0400, sent by Nik Clayton > > On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 08:09:25PM -0400, parv wrote: > > is there any effort, either ongoing or in the planning, to move the > > web pages away from html & towards xhtml (at least conforming to > > xhtml-transitional dtd)? > > XHTML is something I'm dimly aware of, lurking on the horizon, but it's > not something I've done any serious investigation of. > > What would be the benefits / disadvantages of using XHTML? (please feel free to replace "we" w/ "i" as you like.) disadvantages: - fix up needed for lonely tags like 'br' or 'hr' as in
or
that space before '/' is there so that current browsers supporting html 3/4 don't go totally out of whack. (adapted from w3c publications). - changes won't be noticeable until browsers themselves start supporting xhtml; until then web servers will need to present xhtml files as if they are html files. advantages: - w3c's update of html 4.x; html 4 has been deprecated in favor of xhtml. (inferred from the 1st link below) - xhtml-strict dtd takes us towards xml; in the end will fit much more nicely w/ css than existing html (again w3c propaganda)... but who knows what else would have, or have not, had happened by then? personal motivation is both deprecation of html & easy (to implement) solutions to above 2 disadvantages; turn a knob in apache (even in htaccess), write an easy short lazy perl program, and we are done. ( actually, shouldn't the lone tags be taken care of properly when the source documentations are already in sgml? or, are we using non-strict dtds and/or their enforcement? ) for more info you can always visit w3c, of course... http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/ http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml-roadmap/ -- so, do you like word games or scrabble? - parv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 7: 9:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA2F37B40A for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 07:09:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f7DE96h77960; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:09:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:09:06 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Evgeny Dolgopyat Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Documentation about roff. Message-ID: <20010813170906.A76626@sunbay.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from evg_dolgop@mail.ru on Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 02:44:00PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 02:44:00PM +0400, Evgeny Dolgopyat wrote: > Does anybody knows good documentation about roff and -man macroses, > with used in man pages? > info groff man 7 groff man 7 man man 7 mdoc Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 8: 4:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602B637B408; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:04:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7DF4kw91813; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:04:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:04:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200108131504.f7DF4kw91813@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Jim Mock Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge chapter.sgml In-Reply-To: <200108130649.f7D6nUF04147@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200108130649.f7D6nUF04147@freefall.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org < said: > * ###MB -> ### MB > * ###MHz -> ### MHz Note that, while the first forms shown are always wrong, the second form shown is not necessarily right. When used as a modifier (e.g., a ______ DIMM, a ______ CPU, etc.), unit-carrying quantities should be hyphenated. (I don't want to get into the Mi/Ki silliness here, but the style guide should say clearly one way or the other.) -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 8:40: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web20108.mail.yahoo.com (web20108.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9AE0F37B410 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from badusenix@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010813154003.46206.qmail@web20108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.148.168.193] by web20108.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:40:03 PDT Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:40:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Jatupon Puttiviriyagon Subject: freebsd-doc To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 11: 0:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5035737B405 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7DI0D238654 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108131800.f7DI0D238654@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/12/28] docs/23910 doc Handbook Chapter 14. Sound -- some fixes o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () f [2001/08/07] docs/29503 doc Handbook uses nonsensical "very unique". o [2001/08/07] docs/29511 doc Handbook missing some "Loader Built-In Co o [2001/08/07] docs/29515 doc Handbook references missing *.bat install o [2001/08/07] docs/29534 doc syscons(4), sc(4) reference non-existant 7 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/08/07] docs/13020 doc Manpage capitalization o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [2000/04/03] kern/17774 doc stray irq7 o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; f [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) o [2000/10/10] docs/21896 doc Mini-HOWTO for stp driver s [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2000/11/14] docs/22861 doc newsyslog man page is misleading and inco o [2000/12/11] docs/23488 doc A manpage for section 7 regarding a Toron o [2000/12/14] docs/23559 doc missing manpage for hsearch libc function o [2001/01/02] docs/24035 doc ptrace(2) PT_STEP incorrect documentation o [2001/01/26] docs/24662 doc too many questions about source managemen o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/02/06] docs/24923 doc 4.2 Release Errata page has no informatio o [2001/02/11] docs/25000 doc matcd(4) SYNOPSIS is wrong o [2001/02/11] docs/25016 doc symlink(7) manpage says symlinks have no a [2001/02/20] docs/25239 doc fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about o [2001/02/26] docs/25392 doc Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu o [2001/02/26] docs/25405 doc misleading warning from catman(1), etc. o [2001/02/27] docs/25420 doc man page missing important information. o [2001/02/27] docs/25437 doc kernel configs are the only precious file o [2001/03/10] docs/25657 doc no netid(5) man page o [2001/03/16] docs/25876 doc typos in jail.2 o [2001/03/19] docs/25919 doc supported hardware list says 'no' for Sou o [2001/03/22] docs/26001 doc typo in sched_get_priority_max.2 f [2001/03/22] docs/26003 doc getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not sy o [2001/03/22] docs/26006 doc Changing zone(9) man page o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/04/08] docs/26451 doc ctype.h defined functions are not accurat o [2001/04/10] docs/26489 doc incomplete info in the ppp faq about "PPP o [2001/04/18] docs/26692 doc boot manpage describes bootfile prompt in o [2001/04/21] misc/26742 doc misleading information in handbook o [2001/04/25] docs/26861 doc accept(2) manpage documents non-existant o [2001/05/02] docs/27027 doc Update src/share/misc/iso639 o [2001/05/02] docs/27040 doc rc(8) and syscons(4) talk about rc.conf.l o [2001/05/08] docs/27209 doc [PATCH] ascii.7 table rearrangement and u o [2001/05/14] docs/27320 doc excessively vague information in pppoe pa o [2001/05/18] docs/27430 doc Addition to the doc/sr_YU/articles tree o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/05/29] docs/27758 doc ptrace(2) man page outdated o [2001/06/02] docs/27833 doc No man page for locate.rc o [2001/06/02] docs/27843 doc [PATCH] make.conf WITH_* variables aren't o [2001/06/06] docs/27915 doc man 5 passwd does not properly explain th o [2001/06/09] docs/28000 doc adding and changing information in vidcon s [2001/06/14] docs/28144 doc no manpage for host.conf, no xrefs in oth o [2001/06/20] docs/28306 doc docbook.css and OBJDIR o [2001/06/30] docs/28555 doc [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo o [2001/07/03] docs/28679 doc Images in handbook/advanced-networking mi o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/07/13] docs/28949 doc the mknod(8) man page stills refers to bl o [2001/07/22] docs/29143 doc List of man pages that need to be written o [2001/07/23] docs/29182 doc Handbook needs to be updated to reflect s o [2001/07/25] docs/29216 doc Updated the cvsup addresses for the UK o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP o [2001/08/01] docs/29380 doc setsockopt(IPV6_BINDV6ONLY) not documente o [2001/08/03] docs/29410 doc More about RELENG_4_3 in FAQ o [2001/08/07] docs/29500 doc Handbook uses obsolete "controller" and " o [2001/08/07] docs/29505 doc kbdmap(1) Bugs section is for wrong comma o [2001/08/07] docs/29506 doc kbdmap(1) doesn't explain that cmd is int o [2001/08/07] docs/29517 doc Handbook missing fast method of cleaning o [2001/08/07] docs/29522 doc Handbook: A few changes related to cvsup o [2001/08/07] docs/29525 doc hier(7) has sometimes-erroneous descripti o [2001/08/07] docs/29531 doc FreeBSD.org site's PR form doesn't match o [2001/08/08] docs/29549 doc at(1) has erroneous statement about /var/ o [2001/08/09] docs/29560 doc make buildkernel as described in the hand o [2001/08/09] docs/29566 doc some punctuation etc. for Handbook Chapte o [2001/08/09] docs/29571 doc [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct o [2001/08/12] docs/29655 doc minor comment fixes in doc/share/sgml/fre o [2001/08/12] docs/29657 doc NICE_HEADERS conflicts with authorgroup g 75 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 14:52:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ezwv.com (hermes.ezwv.com [208.163.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFC437B403; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpratt@ezwv.com) Received: from k6-2.weeble.com (ip206102032111.dlup.ezwv.com [206.102.32.111]) by mail.ezwv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA01055; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:52:27 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Pratt To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: Handbook addition: Install Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:52:35 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <01081121030602.00381@k6-2.weeble.com> <20010813110804.A84120@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> In-Reply-To: <20010813110804.A84120@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01081317510000.23082@k6-2.weeble.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 13 August 2001 06:08, you wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 09:03:06PM -0400, Randy Pratt wrote: > > They are posted at: > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/hdbk/view/ (html build) > > http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/hdbk/src/ (sources) > > A couple of comments. > > I don't think we should be reproducing the help text in the Handbook, > unless we punt it to an appendix, or similar. It disrupts the flow of > the text, and will confuse the reader if it gets out of sync with the > text in sysinstall. I agree that it does interrupt the flow and should be removed. > I think the security profile section may now be out of date after > Robert's recent changes. I'm aware of the change but have not looked at it in detail as yet. I had planned on doing a fresh install very shortly to confirm things. > We should probably crop some of the images -- anything that shows a four > line dialog box on a big blue background should really just be showing > the dialog box, no background. This is something that can happen to the > .scr files post-import though. I wasn't aware that cropping could be done on .scr images and still use the scr2* utilities. I have used hexedit on .scr files but had to retain the original size to produce images. Cropping would be an added bonus. > Apart from those minor niggles, this is great. I'd suggest pulling out > the help text, and then committing without delay. I'll chop the help text sections and proceed with the commit. Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 15:41:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ezwv.com (hermes.ezwv.com [208.163.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207AB37B413 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:41:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpratt@ezwv.com) Received: from k6-2.weeble.com (ip206102032111.dlup.ezwv.com [206.102.32.111]) by mail.ezwv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA08157; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:41:43 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Pratt To: Martin Heinen Subject: Re: Handbook addition: Install Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:41:50 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <01081121030602.00381@k6-2.weeble.com> <20010812143635.A6425@Moses.earth.sol> In-Reply-To: <20010812143635.A6425@Moses.earth.sol> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01081318415002.23082@k6-2.weeble.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday 12 August 2001 08:36, Martin Heinen wrote: > In chapter 'Configuration and Tuning' the handbook recommends > to turn on Soft Updates. Although the possibility to do so is > mentioned in '2.4.9 DiskLabel Editor Help' we should show a > picture containing filesystems with Soft Updates enabled. May be > 'Figure 2-26. Sysinstall Disklabel Editor' is a good place > to show this? This is an option that could be turned on post-install of course. I've not been following the discussions on Soft Updates so I hesitate to show it and not know the ramifications. Maybe someone who has a good deal of experience with the option could comment. At the very least, perhaps a reference to the handbook section is in order. You point is well taken. Thanks, Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 16:21:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC71637B403; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:21:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7DN2DR86014; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:02:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:02:13 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Randy Pratt Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook addition: Install Message-ID: <20010814000213.C79615@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <01081121030602.00381@k6-2.weeble.com> <20010813110804.A84120@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <01081317510000.23082@k6-2.weeble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="B4IIlcmfBL/1gGOG" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01081317510000.23082@k6-2.weeble.com>; from rpratt@ezwv.com on Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 05:52:35PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --B4IIlcmfBL/1gGOG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 05:52:35PM -0400, Randy Pratt wrote: > > We should probably crop some of the images -- anything that shows a four > > line dialog box on a big blue background should really just be showing > > the dialog box, no background. This is something that can happen to the > > .scr files post-import though. >=20 > I wasn't aware that cropping could be done on .scr images and still use t= he=20 > scr2* utilities. =20 Erm. . . you can't yet. Well, not exactly. It shouldn't be too hard to knock together a quick utility that does this. I'll try and do so in my Copious Free Time(tm). N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --B4IIlcmfBL/1gGOG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt4XHQACgkQk6gHZCw343WhJACfV61J70FMYxgsjz3umMyG4oJp Av4An0pdSACL4KpdgUuHeh5ur3YCU/pZ =DTC4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --B4IIlcmfBL/1gGOG-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 17:30:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D1B37B40F for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:30:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7E0UP415060; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:30:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from ns5.sony.co.jp (ns5.Sony.CO.JP [202.238.80.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B6C37B406 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:20:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from saeki@ba2.so-net.ne.jp) Received: from mail1.sony.co.jp (gatekeeper8.Sony.CO.JP [202.238.80.22]) by ns5.sony.co.jp (R8) with ESMTP id f7E0KA761716 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:20:10 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail1.sony.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.sony.co.jp (R8) with ESMTP id f7E0KB205917 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:20:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from aqua4.ba2.so-net.ne.jp ([43.15.160.34]) by mail1.sony.co.jp (R8) with ESMTP id f7E0KAa05906 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:20:10 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aqua4.ba2.so-net.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31C81FAD; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:47:55 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010812154755L.saeki@ba2.so-net.ne.jp> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:47:55 +0900 From: Saeki Takashi Reply-To: saeki@ba2.so-net.ne.jp To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: saeki@jp.FreeBSD.org, saeki@ba2.so-net.ne.jp X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29688: Trivial typographic error in porters-handbook. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29688 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Trivial typographic error in porters-handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Aug 13 17:30:24 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Saeki Takashi >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386 >Organization: jp.freebsd.org >Environment: System: FreeBSD aqua4 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #2: Wed Jul 11 14:49:19 PDT 2001 saeki@aqua4:/usr/src/sys/compile/AQUA i386 >Description: I found some trivial typographic error in doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml during translation work into Japanese. In addition to the attached patch, a sentence from line 798 have three '(' and four ')'. I think this as parenthesis nesting error, but can't guess correct nesting, sorry. >How-To-Repeat: see http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml >Fix: *** book.sgml-en.160 Sun Aug 12 15:08:23 2001 --- book.sgml-en.new Sun Aug 12 15:08:23 2001 *************** *** 800,806 **** from an earlier epoch to fail (i.e. the package would not be detected as out of date): the new version number (e.g. 1.0,1 in the above example) is still ! numerically less than the previous version (2000801), but the ,1 suffix is treated specially by automated tools and found to be greater than the implied suffix ",0" on the earlier package) --- 800,806 ---- from an earlier epoch to fail (i.e. the package would not be detected as out of date): the new version number (e.g. 1.0,1 in the above example) is still ! numerically less than the previous version (20000801), but the ,1 suffix is treated specially by automated tools and found to be greater than the implied suffix ",0" on the earlier package) *************** *** 3405,3411 **** -DPAGER=\"${LOCALBASE}/bin/less\" if this is an X port, instead of ! -DPAGER=\"/usr/local/bin/less\". This way it will have a better chance of working if the system administrator has moved the whole `/usr/local' tree somewhere else. --- 3405,3411 ---- -DPAGER=\"${LOCALBASE}/bin/less\" if this is an X port, instead of ! -DPAGER=\"/usr/local/bin/less\". This way it will have a better chance of working if the system administrator has moved the whole `/usr/local' tree somewhere else. Best Regards, saeki >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: Hello doc-maintainers, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 19:30:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.14.150.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D7637B409 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7E2U8M39377 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B209C38CC for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: can somebody please fix mincore(2) man page? Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:30:08 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010814023008.B209C38CC@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org DESCRIPTION The mincore() system call allows a process to obtain information about whether pages are core resident. Here the current core residency of the pages is returned in the character array vec, with a value of 1 meaning that the page is in-core. versus: /* * Return bits from mincore */ #define MINCORE_INCORE 0x1 /* Page is incore */ #define MINCORE_REFERENCED 0x2 /* Page has been referenced by us */ #define MINCORE_MODIFIED 0x4 /* Page has been modified by us */ #define MINCORE_REFERENCED_OTHER 0x8 /* Page has been referenced */ #define MINCORE_MODIFIED_OTHER 0x10 /* Page has been modified */ ie: we dont return "1", we return bit flags with those values. See how its formatted in mmap()/madvise()/etc. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 19:40:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1783037B409; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv@worldnet.att.net) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([32.100.199.162]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010814024025.WCSF8490.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net>; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 02:40:25 +0000 Received: by worldnet.att.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DD76250D30; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:40:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:40:26 -0400 From: parv To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: Nik Clayton , f-doc Subject: Re: (website) move towards xhtml Message-ID: <20010813224026.B60454@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: "Gary W. Swearingen" , Nik Clayton , f-doc References: <20010812200925.A49266@moo.holy.cow> <20010813104836.X50182@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010813075517.A16251@moo.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from swear@aa.net on Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 11:29:48AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org this was, on the fateful occasion around Aug 13 14:29 -0400, sent by Gary W. Swearingen > > parv writes: > ... > > advantages: > > - w3c's update of html 4.x; html 4 has been deprecated in favor of > > xhtml. (inferred from the 1st link below) > > Doesn't look like an advantage to me. Fairly irrelevant. well, having the time to convert before html standard becomes unsupported seems to be an advantage to me at least. > > - xhtml-strict dtd takes us towards xml; in the end will fit much more > > nicely w/ css than existing html (again w3c propaganda)... but who > > knows what else would have, or have not, had happened by then? > > XHTML, strict or not, *is* XML as I understand it. That was the main > advantage for my usage. It allows one to use XML-savy tools and > libraries on it. But since you've already got your source in SGML, you > don't gain much from that feature. It might help people grabbing your > *HTML. yes, that's my general idea too. -- so, do you like word games or scrabble? - parv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 22:25:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DB137B412; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:25:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7E5ONb69259; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:24:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:24:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108140524.f7E5ONb69259@freefall.freebsd.org> To: saeki@ba2.so-net.ne.jp, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29688: Trivial typographic error in porters-handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Trivial typographic error in porters-handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Mon Aug 13 22:23:01 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29688 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 22:25:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B12E37B416; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:25:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7E5OYx69408; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:24:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:24:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108140524.f7E5OYx69408@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd@bilogic.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29655: minor comment fixes in doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: minor comment fixes in doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Mon Aug 13 22:24:26 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 22:35:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC81437B405; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:35:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7E5SGK69906; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:28:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:28:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108140528.f7E5SGK69906@freefall.freebsd.org> To: swear@aa.net, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29503: Handbook uses nonsensical "very unique". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook uses nonsensical "very unique". State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Mon Aug 13 22:27:36 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Offending clause nuked. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29503 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 23:16:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9931F37B40C for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:16:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F3F883E28; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3EE3C12B for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:16:50 -0700 (PDT) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: `make lint` broken for any document which uses -V option to jade Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:16:45 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010814061650.F3F883E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Any document which uses the -V option to jade via JADEFLAGS will not pass `make lint` because JADEFLAGS is passed to nsgmls, which doesn't understand -V. I suspect this has always been the case, but now we have more documents using variables (mainly to generate the table of contents), so it's more apparent. The patch below splits JADEFLAGS into itself and SGMLFLAGS. The former goes only to Jade, and should include stuff like -V which nsgmls and other SGML processors have no use for. The latter goes to Jade and any other processors (e.g., nsgmls), which have a need for things like entities (-i option). The only place that actually needs SGMLFLAGS is the Handbook, and the patch changes that as appropriate. With this, all the documents except the Handbook[1] pass `make lint`. Previously, the committers-guide, sold-state, contributers, and the faq would fail. Please review. Thanks. [1] The Handbook bombs at not being able to find index.sgml. I skimmed (and in some case deleted) most of the threads about indexes (no offense intended; I like the work, but have no desire to work on it), so I don't know what exactly is broken, or how to fix it. Regardless, it bombs at the same place with my patch as before it, so I have no reason to think I broke anything. Index: share/mk/doc.docbook.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /ref/cvsf/doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk,v retrieving revision 1.42 diff -u -r1.42 doc.docbook.mk --- share/mk/doc.docbook.mk 2001/07/28 03:00:03 1.42 +++ share/mk/doc.docbook.mk 2001/08/14 06:01:26 @@ -30,10 +30,15 @@ # # Variables used by both users and documents: # -# JADEFLAGS Additional options to pass to Jade. Typically +# SGMLFLAGS Additional options to pass to various SGML +# processors (e.g., jade, nsgmls). Typically # used to define "IGNORE" entities to "INCLUDE" # with "-i" # +# JADEFLAGS Additional flags to pass to Jade. Typically +# used to set additional variables, such as +# "%generate-article-toc%". +# # TIDYFLAGS Additional flags to pass to Tidy. Typically # used to set "-raw" flag to handle 8bit characters. # @@ -93,7 +98,7 @@ IMAGES_LIB?= -JADEOPTS= ${JADEFLAGS} -c ${LANGUAGECATALOG} -c ${FREEBSDCATALOG} -c ${DSSSLCATALOG} -c ${DOCBOOKCATALOG} -c ${JADECATALOG} ${EXTRA_CATALOGS:S/^/-c /g} +JADEOPTS= ${JADEFLAGS} ${SGMLFLAGS} -c ${LANGUAGECATALOG} -c ${FREEBSDCATALOG} -c ${DSSSLCATALOG} -c ${DOCBOOKCATALOG} -c ${JADECATALOG} ${EXTRA_CATALOGS:S/^/-c /g} KNOWN_FORMATS= html html.tar html-split html-split.tar txt rtf ps pdf tex dvi tar pdb @@ -336,7 +341,7 @@ # lint validate: - ${NSGMLS} ${JADEFLAGS} -s -c ${LANGUAGECATALOG} -c ${FREEBSDCATALOG} -c ${DSSSLCATALOG} -c ${DOCBOOKCATALOG} -c ${JADECATALOG} ${EXTRA_CATALOGS:S/^/-c /g} ${MASTERDOC} + ${NSGMLS} ${SGMLFLAGS} -s -c ${LANGUAGECATALOG} -c ${FREEBSDCATALOG} -c ${DSSSLCATALOG} -c ${DOCBOOKCATALOG} -c ${JADECATALOG} ${EXTRA_CATALOGS:S/^/-c /g} ${MASTERDOC} # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Index: en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /ref/cvsf/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.42 diff -u -r1.42 Makefile --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/Makefile 2001/08/10 00:30:43 1.42 +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/Makefile 2001/08/14 06:01:04 @@ -72,7 +72,7 @@ # Turn on all the chapters. CHAPTERS?= ${SRCS:M*chapter.sgml} -JADEFLAGS+= ${CHAPTERS:S/\/chapter.sgml//:S/^/-i chap./} +SGMLFLAGS+= ${CHAPTERS:S/\/chapter.sgml//:S/^/-i chap./} # XXX The Handbook build currently overflows some internal, hardcoded # limits in pdftex. Until we split the Handbook up, build the PDF To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 23:35:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E8837B403; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:35:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7E6V7r83031; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:31:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:31:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108140631.f7E6V7r83031@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29566: some punctuation etc. for Handbook Chapter 10. Security Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: some punctuation etc. for Handbook Chapter 10. Security State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Mon Aug 13 23:30:58 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29566 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 13 23:45:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC3B37B408; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7E6fgb85193; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:41:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:41:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108140641.f7E6fgb85193@freefall.freebsd.org> To: swear@aa.net, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29549: at(1) has erroneous statement about /var/at/at.deny Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: at(1) has erroneous statement about /var/at/at.deny State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Mon Aug 13 23:41:24 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Patch fixed to apply to the right file and committed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29549 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 1:15:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAC937B411; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:15:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f7E8FBJ80933; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:15:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:15:11 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Peter Wemm Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: can somebody please fix mincore(2) man page? Message-ID: <20010814111511.C71466@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Peter Wemm , doc@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org References: <20010814023008.B209C38CC@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010814023008.B209C38CC@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@wemm.org on Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 07:30:08PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 07:30:08PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > DESCRIPTION > The mincore() system call allows a process to obtain information about > whether pages are core resident. Here the current core residency of the > pages is returned in the character array vec, with a value of 1 meaning > that the page is in-core. > > versus: > > /* > * Return bits from mincore > */ > #define MINCORE_INCORE 0x1 /* Page is incore */ > #define MINCORE_REFERENCED 0x2 /* Page has been referenced by us */ > #define MINCORE_MODIFIED 0x4 /* Page has been modified by us */ > #define MINCORE_REFERENCED_OTHER 0x8 /* Page has been referenced */ > #define MINCORE_MODIFIED_OTHER 0x10 /* Page has been modified */ > > ie: we dont return "1", we return bit flags with those values. > See how its formatted in mmap()/madvise()/etc. > Provided that some VM guru sends us an extended descriptions of MINCORE_* flags, yes, that could be done. It's a pity that John Dyson did not document these back in 1996. The DESCRIPTION text is to be fixed as well, as the mincore(2) syscall is not limited to the in-core residency question, as it seems. Plain text submissions would be highly appreciated as well. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 2:50:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79A937B40D; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 02:50:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.167]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29378; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:43:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA11093; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:43:53 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:43:53 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: eric@freebsd.org Subject: broken handbook Message-ID: <20010814114353.A11034@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message from wosch@FreeBSD.org (Cron Daemon) ----- Delivered-To: wosch@hub.freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:07:21 -0700 (PDT) ===> doc/articles ===> doc/articles/contributors /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -t sgml /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml tidy -i -m -f /dev/null `xargs < HTML.manifest` Can't open "/home/wosch/.tidyrc" *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -ioutput.html.images -V nochunks -V %generate-article-toc% -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -t sgml /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml > article.html || (rm -f article.html && false) tidy -i -m -f /dev/null article.html Can't open "/home/wosch/.tidyrc" *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> doc/articles/dialup-firewall ===> doc/articles/diskless-x ===> doc/articles/explaining-bsd ===> doc/articles/filtering-bridges ===> doc/articles/freebsd-questions ===> doc/articles/fonts ===> doc/articles/formatting-media ===> doc/articles/ipsec-must ===> doc/articles/mh ===> doc/articles/multi-os ===> doc/articles/new-users ===> doc/articles/programming-tools ===> doc/articles/pxe ===> doc/articles/serial-uart ===> doc/articles/solid-state ===> doc/articles/storage-devices ===> doc/articles/vm-design ===> doc/articles/zip-drive ===> doc/books ===> doc/books/corp-net-guide ===> doc/books/design-44bsd ===> doc/books/developers-handbook /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -ioutput.html.images -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -t sgml /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/book.sgml /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/isa/chapter.sgml:13:36:E: general entity "a.wylie" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en. 86.35 real 44.09 user 1.79 sys ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 6:49:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from md3.vsnl.net.in (md3.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7A137B406 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 06:49:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from previ_pc.at.yahoo.com@vsnl.com) Received: from netbsd151 (unknown [61.1.248.233]) by md3.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id A8D8A3523 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:17:09 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <000201c124c7$91e9e040$e9f8013d@netbsd151> Reply-To: "Previ [Y]" From: "Previ [Y]" To: Subject: HandBook://nutshell.html Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:47:14 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hotmail should be removed from the list of sites running FreeBSD on the nutshell.html page, as they are running largely on Windows 2000 Sever as can be verified from netcraft.com. Faithfully Previ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 6:54:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.newgold.net (aphex.newgold.net [209.42.222.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD08237B408 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 06:54:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmallett@mail.newgold.net) Received: (qmail 89437 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Aug 2001 13:54:13 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:54:13 +0000 From: Joseph Mallett To: "Previ [Y]" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HandBook://nutshell.html Message-ID: <20010814135413.A89431@NewGold.NET> References: <000201c124c7$91e9e040$e9f8013d@netbsd151> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000201c124c7$91e9e040$e9f8013d@netbsd151> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i Organisation: New Gold Technology Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 03:47:14PM +0530, Previ [Y] wrote: > hotmail should be removed from the list of sites running FreeBSD > on the nutshell.html page, as they are running largely on > Windows 2000 Sever as can be verified from netcraft.com. > Microsoft has publicly admitted that there are large parts of Hotmail still running FreeBSD. Search daily.daemonnews.org or WSJ.com archives. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 9:42:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B70F37B406; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:42:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f7EGgAp58128; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:42:10 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:42:10 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Dima Dorfman , doc@FreeBSD.org, Alexey Zelkin Subject: mdoc(7) markup for ports (was: Re: cvs commit: doc/share/sgml freebsd.dsl freebsd41.dtd) Message-ID: <20010814194210.A56842@sunbay.com> References: <200107241108.f6OB80429707@freefall.freebsd.org> <9765.995973747@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <9765.995973747@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za>; from sheldonh@starjuice.net on Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 01:22:27PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 01:22:27PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 04:07:59 MST, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > > Modified files: > > share/sgml freebsd.dsl freebsd41.dtd > > Log: > > Introduce a element that answers the question of how to mark up > > a port name. Right now, it renders as monospace, and with a hyperlink > > to the port's pkg-descr file if possible. > > Ahhhhhhh. *drool* > > Thanks! > > Now we just need Alexey Zelkin's counterpart for this in the manual page > domain. I think he held off last time this came up because of the > impending mdocNG import. > Why do we need a special markup for this? What's wrong with this? .Xr foo 1 Pq Pa ports// Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 9:47:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B59737B408; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:47:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@starjuice.net) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.31 #1) id 15WhNO-0000t8-00; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 18:49:10 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: Dima Dorfman , doc@FreeBSD.org, Alexey Zelkin Subject: Re: mdoc(7) markup for ports (was: Re: cvs commit: doc/share/sgml freebsd.dsl freebsd41.dtd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:42:10 +0300." <20010814194210.A56842@sunbay.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 18:49:10 +0200 Message-ID: <3417.997807750@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:42:10 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > Why do we need a special markup for this? What's wrong with this? > > Xr foo 1 Pq Pa ports// I've never been comfortable with providing document processing people (people who build handbooks or documentation viewing engines) no way to distinguish between base system manual pages, ones you might find in the ports tree and ones you'll have to handbuild a package to get. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 10: 9:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from Blitzkrieg.Blackened.com (blitzkrieg.blackened.com [198.182.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B753D37B40C; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:09:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logo@FreeBSD.org) Received: by Blitzkrieg.Blackened.com (Postfix, from userid 1028) id 4FDC71E81C; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:09:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Blitzkrieg.Blackened.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F4B18C9B; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:09:15 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:09:15 -0700 (MST) From: Valentino Vaschetto X-Sender: logo@Blitzkrieg.Blackened.com To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, eric@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken handbook In-Reply-To: <20010814114353.A11034@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Update books/handbook/authors.ent and it should build fine. -val On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from wosch@FreeBSD.org (Cron Daemon) ----- > > Delivered-To: wosch@hub.freebsd.org > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:07:21 -0700 (PDT) > > ===> doc/articles > ===> doc/articles/contributors > /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -t sgml /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml > tidy -i -m -f /dev/null `xargs < HTML.manifest` > Can't open "/home/wosch/.tidyrc" > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > /usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -ioutput.html.images -V nochunks -V %generate-article-toc% -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -t sgml /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml > article.html || (rm -f article.html && false) > tidy -i -m -f /dev/null article.html > Can't open "/home/wosch/.tidyrc" > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > ===> doc/articles/dialup-firewall > ===> doc/articles/diskless-x > ===> doc/articles/explaining-bsd > ===> doc/articles/filtering-bridges > ===> doc/articles/freebsd-questions > ===> doc/articles/fonts > ===> doc/articles/formatting-media > ===> doc/articles/ipsec-must > ===> doc/articles/mh > ===> doc/articles/multi-os > ===> doc/articles/new-users > ===> doc/articles/programming-tools > ===> doc/articles/pxe > ===> doc/articles/serial-uart > ===> doc/articles/solid-state > ===> doc/articles/storage-devices > ===> doc/articles/vm-design > ===> doc/articles/zip-drive > ===> doc/books > ===> doc/books/corp-net-guide > ===> doc/books/design-44bsd > ===> doc/books/developers-handbook > /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -ioutput.html.images -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -t sgml /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/book.sgml > /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/isa/chapter.sgml:13:36:E: general entity "a.wylie" not defined and no default entity > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /c/www/build/www/en/doc. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /c/www/build/www/en. > 86.35 real 44.09 user 1.79 sys > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 12:15:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from helios.soupnazi.org (helios.soupnazi.org [64.81.252.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CE337B409 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mij@soupnazi.org) Received: by helios.soupnazi.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 486393246; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:15:12 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: handbook build broken Message-ID: <20010814121511.A27373@helios.soupnazi.org> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The handbook build is currently broken. It dies on scr2png, which is needed for the new install chapter stuff from Randy, however it's not part of the docproj port. If nobody objects, I'll add scr2png to the port dependency list, bump the version, and commit it. - jim -- jim mock tech writer | iXsystems, Inc. http://soupnazi.org/ work: jim@ixsystems.net | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 12:36:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from helios.soupnazi.org (helios.soupnazi.org [64.81.252.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0277937B407; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:36:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mij@soupnazi.org) Received: by helios.soupnazi.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8F5DC31C7; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:36:37 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: handbook build broken Message-ID: <20010814123636.A34542@helios.soupnazi.org> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: <20010814121511.A27373@helios.soupnazi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010814121511.A27373@helios.soupnazi.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 at 12:15:12 -0700, Jim Mock wrote: > The handbook build is currently broken. It dies on scr2png, which is > needed for the new install chapter stuff from Randy, however it's not > part of the docproj port. If nobody objects, I'll add scr2png to the > port dependency list, bump the version, and commit it. Here's a patch to fix things. - jim -- jim mock tech writer | iXsystems, Inc. http://soupnazi.org/ work: jim@ixsystems.net | jim@FreeBSD.org --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="docproj.diff" Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/textproc/docproj/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.32 diff -u -r1.32 Makefile --- Makefile 2001/08/05 21:19:48 1.32 +++ Makefile 2001/08/14 19:32:24 @@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ # PORTNAME= docproj -PORTVERSION= 1.7 +PORTVERSION= 1.8 CATEGORIES= textproc MASTER_SITES= # empty DISTFILES= # empty @@ -26,7 +26,8 @@ ${PREFIX}/bin/peps:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/peps \ ${PREFIX}/bin/pngtopnm:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/netpbm \ ${PREFIX}/bin/links:${PORTSDIR}/www/links \ - ${PREFIX}/bin/xsltproc:${PORTSDIR}/textproc/libxslt + ${PREFIX}/bin/xsltproc:${PORTSDIR}/textproc/libxslt \ + ${PREFIX}/bin/scr2png:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/scr2png .if defined(WITH_OPENJADE) || ${MACHINE_ARCH} == "alpha" RUN_DEPENDS+= openjade:${PORTSDIR}/textproc/openjade --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 12:46:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail28.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail28.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D3D37B40A; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:46:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail28.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010814194627.BPYP1048.femail28.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:46:27 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7EJkQ295443; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:46:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108141946.f7EJkQ295443@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: mij@soupnazi.org Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: handbook build broken In-Reply-To: <20010814123636.A34542@helios.soupnazi.org> References: <20010814121511.A27373@helios.soupnazi.org> <20010814123636.A34542@helios.soupnazi.org> Comments: In-reply-to Jim Mock message dated "Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:36:37 -0700." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_259207764P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:46:26 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_259207764P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Jim Mock wrote: > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 at 12:15:12 -0700, Jim Mock wrote: > > The handbook build is currently broken. It dies on scr2png, which is > > needed for the new install chapter stuff from Randy, however it's not > > part of the docproj port. If nobody objects, I'll add scr2png to the > > port dependency list, bump the version, and commit it. > > Here's a patch to fix things. Looks good from here...go for it. Here's a diff against src/release/Makefile.inc.docports that tracks this change. Does this look OK to you/other interested parties? Bruce. PS. Someone needs to MFC accumulated changes to Makefile.inc.docports to RELENG_4...I'll do it if no one else does. Index: Makefile.inc.docports =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/Makefile.inc.docports,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 Makefile.inc.docports --- Makefile.inc.docports 2001/08/09 09:32:16 1.5 +++ Makefile.inc.docports 2001/08/14 19:41:03 @@ -17,11 +17,14 @@ ports/devel/gmake \ ports/devel/libtool \ ports/devel/pkgconfig \ + ports/graphics/gd \ ports/graphics/peps \ ports/graphics/jpeg \ ports/graphics/netpbm \ ports/graphics/png \ + ports/graphics/scr2png \ ports/graphics/tiff \ + ports/print/freetype2 \ ports/print/ghostscript6 \ ports/textproc/docbook \ ports/textproc/docbook-241 \ --==_Exmh_259207764P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7eYAS2MoxcVugUsMRAsBvAKD8SVOyHQy3zHrq0tI4cB3w6TRZzwCfYFzd LCvFtP1tmigYYf9aakIqTJo= =MGBn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_259207764P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 12:56:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 885) id 4E39137B408; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:56:43 -0700 From: Eric Melville To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken handbook Message-ID: <20010814125643.B56214@FreeBSD.org> References: <20010814114353.A11034@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010814114353.A11034@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de>; from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de on Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 11:43:53AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/isa/chapter.sgml:13:36:E: general entity "a.wylie" not defined and no default entity > *** Error code 1 Yeah, sorry about that. Murray has already fixed this. I only checked the handbook when I was making this change, believing that a file in the handbook directory was only used by the handbook. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 13:12:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A125E37B407 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:12:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010814201210.EWME29353.femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:12:10 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7EKC6b95740; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:12:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108142012.f7EKC6b95740@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: `make lint` broken for any document which uses -V option to jade In-Reply-To: <20010814061650.F3F883E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <20010814061650.F3F883E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Comments: In-reply-to Dima Dorfman message dated "Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:16:45 -0700." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_877583004P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:12:06 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_877583004P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Any document which uses the -V option to jade via JADEFLAGS will not > pass `make lint` because JADEFLAGS is passed to nsgmls, which doesn't > understand -V. I suspect this has always been the case, but now we > have more documents using variables (mainly to generate the table of > contents), so it's more apparent. Ahhh...this explains why I couldn't do a "make lint" with an openjade-based toolchain; the infrastructure sets adds "-V openjade" to JADEFLAGS. After your patch, it appears to work fine. Thanks! Bruce. --==_Exmh_877583004P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7eYYW2MoxcVugUsMRApo+AKDVpoxOBA6pz1/tln80u7TlSHmqQACfa4pI weSC6esjCx9DeTMrqYvKAy0= =lzhL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_877583004P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 13:48:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from helios.soupnazi.org (helios.soupnazi.org [64.81.252.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C841837B403; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:48:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: by helios.soupnazi.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7A6AF31C7; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:48:14 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: handbook build broken Message-ID: <20010814134814.B34542@helios.soupnazi.org> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org References: <20010814121511.A27373@helios.soupnazi.org> <20010814123636.A34542@helios.soupnazi.org> <200108141946.f7EJkQ295443@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200108141946.f7EJkQ295443@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 at 12:46:26 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Jim Mock wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 at 12:15:12 -0700, Jim Mock wrote: > > > The handbook build is currently broken. It dies on scr2png, which > > > is needed for the new install chapter stuff from Randy, however > > > it's not part of the docproj port. If nobody objects, I'll add > > > scr2png to the port dependency list, bump the version, and commit > > > it. > > > > Here's a patch to fix things. > > Looks good from here...go for it. Ok. Will commit shortly. > Here's a diff against src/release/Makefile.inc.docports that tracks > this change. Does this look OK to you/other interested parties? Looks ok to me. > PS. Someone needs to MFC accumulated changes to Makefile.inc.docports > to RELENG_4...I'll do it if no one else does. Go for it :-) - jim -- jim mock tech writer | iXsystems, Inc. http://soupnazi.org/ work: jim@ixsystems.net | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 21:58:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web12807.mail.yahoo.com (web12807.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 157A537B405 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:58:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zaunere@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010815045848.64167.qmail@web12807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.114.66.188] by web12807.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:58:48 PDT Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:58:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Hans Zaunere Subject: Better Mailing List Suggestion To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm not sure if this is the right place to send this, but I dont know where else. I currently watch a couple mailing lists to read and learn; they are great. However it would be even better if a "header" could be added in the subject so I can direct, for instance freebsd-hackers, to a specific mail directory, etc. Something like: [freebsd-hackers] subject then follows Just a suggestion, Thank you, Hans __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 14 22:19:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail44.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail44.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F8E37B40A for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail44.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010815051931.VAMJ17525.femail44.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:19:31 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7F5JVC44886; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108150519.f7F5JVC44886@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Hans Zaunere Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Better Mailing List Suggestion In-Reply-To: <20010815045848.64167.qmail@web12807.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010815045848.64167.qmail@web12807.mail.yahoo.com> Comments: In-reply-to Hans Zaunere message dated "Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:58:48 -0700." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_398825244P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:19:30 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_398825244P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Hans Zaunere wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the right place to send this, > but I dont know where else. I currently watch a > couple mailing lists to read and learn; they are > great. Good, glad the lists are helpful to you! > However it would be even better if a "header" could be > added in the subject so I can direct, for instance > freebsd-hackers, to a specific mail directory, etc. > Something like: > > [freebsd-hackers] subject then follows You can already use several different header fields for this; the one I've found to be most reliable for the FreeBSD lists is the "Sender:" header. (I think this has been a topic of discussion on almost every mailing list I've subscribed to in the past ten years. In some cases, arguments for and against adding tags to the subject header have reached religious fervor. I hope that doesn't happen here (again)!) Bruce. --==_Exmh_398825244P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7egZi2MoxcVugUsMRAm3PAKCjjF4QBgmf8rKY1WDtgKGdzaeRYACfSK4D o6kEPA5AeC90b4qaVePMTqo= =jneH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_398825244P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 0:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33A237B40C for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7F7U2U52712; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from alix.lpt.ens.fr (alix.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEC337B407 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:26:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@alix.lpt.ens.fr) Received: (from rsidd@localhost) by alix.lpt.ens.fr (8.11.5/8.11.5) id f7F7OU534600; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:24:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsidd) Message-Id: <200108150724.f7F7OU534600@alix.lpt.ens.fr> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:24:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Rahul Siddharthan Reply-To: Rahul Siddharthan To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29724: Error in handbook section on window managers/GNOME Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29724 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Error in handbook section on window managers/GNOME >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 15 00:30:02 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rahul Siddharthan >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: Handbook in current doc tree >Description: The handbook section on window managers, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html repeatedly refers to the GNOME startup program as gnome-wm. This is incorrect -- the startup program is gnome-session, and gnome-wm only starts up the window manager associated with GNOME (and is not meant to be run by the user directly). >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: s/gnome-wm/gnome-session/g >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 6:10:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A6437B40E for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7FDA1809845; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364D337B40A for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:05:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7FD5gb09499; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:05:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108151305.f7FD5gb09499@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:05:42 -0700 (PDT) From: John Murphy To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/29729: Handbook Chapter 11 (Printing) minor changes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29729 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook Chapter 11 (Printing) minor changes >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 15 06:10:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: John Murphy >Release: 4.x Stable >Organization: >Environment: >Description: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing/chapter.sgml Revision 1.44 Changed printer name tagging from to Added tags for hosts rose and orchid Changed (where necessary) job's --> job is queue's --> queue is printer's --> printer is bamboo's --> bamboo is She's --> She is Fixed some minor typos. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Apply the following diff to: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing/chapter.sgml Revision 1.44 --- chapter Wed Aug 15 03:35:35 2001 +++ chapter.patched Wed Aug 15 03:35:35 2001 @@ -1116,8 +1116,8 @@ lp capability. In our running example, let us assume that - rattan is on the first parallel port, and - bamboo is on a sixth serial port; here are + rattan is on the first parallel port, and + bamboo is on a sixth serial port; here are the additions to /etc/printcap: # @@ -1563,7 +1563,7 @@ - appears if the job's submitted with lpr + appears if the job is submitted with lpr -l @@ -1884,7 +1884,7 @@ && exit 0 else # - # Plain text or HP/PCL, so just print it directly; print a form + # Plain text or HP/PCL, so just print it directly; print a form feed # at the end to eject the last page. # echo $first_line && cat && printf "\033&l0H" && @@ -2538,7 +2538,7 @@ By enabling header pages, LPD will produce a long header, a full page of large letters identifying the user, host, and job. Here is an example (kelly printed the job - named outline from host rose): + named outline from host rose): k ll ll k l l @@ -2972,13 +2972,14 @@ Here is an example. The host rose has two printers, bamboo and rattan. - We will enable users on the host orchid to print to those printers. + We will enable users on the host orchid to print + to those printers. Here is the /etc/printcap file for orchid (back from section Enabling Header Pages). It already had the entry for the printer teak; we have added entries for the two printers - on the host rose: + on the host rose: # # /etc/printcap for host orchid - added (remote) printers on rose @@ -3014,17 +3015,18 @@ Now, users on orchid can print to rattan and bamboo. If, for - example, a user on orchid typed + example, a user on orchid typed &prompt.user; lpr -P bamboo -d sushi-review.dvi - the LPD system on orchid would copy the job to the spooling - directory /var/spool/lpd/bamboo and note that - it was a DVI job. As soon as the host rose has room in its - bamboo spooling directory, the two LPDs would - transfer the file to rose. The file would wait in rose's queue - until it was finally printed. It would be converted from DVI to - PostScript (since bamboo is a PostScript printer) on rose. + the LPD system on orchid would copy the job to the spooling + directory /var/spool/lpd/bamboo and note that it was a + DVI job. As soon as the host rose has room in its + bamboo spooling directory, the two LPDs would transfer the + file to rose. The file would wait in rose's + queue until it was finally printed. It would be converted from DVI to + PostScript (since bamboo is a PostScript printer) on + rose. @@ -3138,7 +3140,7 @@ /etc/printcap file for the host rose. The printer rattan is quite hearty, so we will allow multiple copies, but the laser - printer bamboo's a bit more delicate, so we will + printer bamboo is a bit more delicate, so we will disable multiple copies by adding the sc capability: @@ -3376,9 +3378,9 @@ minfree file. For example, let us add a minfree - file for the printer bamboo. We examine + file for the printer bamboo. We examine /etc/printcap to find the spooling - directory for this printer; here is bamboo's + directory for this printer; here is bamboo's entry: bamboo|ps|PS|S|panasonic|Panasonic KX-P4455 PostScript v51.4:\ @@ -3387,14 +3389,13 @@ :if=/usr/local/libexec/psif:\ :df=/usr/local/libexec/psdf: - The spooling directory is the given in the - sd capability. We will make three - megabytes (which is 6144 disk blocks) the amount of free disk - space that must exist on the filesystem for LPD to accept - remote jobs: + The spooling directory is given in the sd + capability. We will make three megabytes (which is 6144 disk blocks) + the amount of free disk space that must exist on the filesystem for + LPD to accept remote jobs: - &prompt.root; echo 6144 > /var/spool/lpd/bam -boo/minfree + &prompt.root; echo 6144 > /var/spool/lpd/bamboo/minfree + @@ -3417,7 +3418,7 @@ giving them accounts on your systems, they can use your printers from their own departmental systems. If you would rather allow them to use only your - printers and not your compute resources, you can give them + printers and not your computer resources, you can give them token accounts, with no home directory and a useless shell like /usr/bin/false. @@ -3524,8 +3525,8 @@ You should use a separate accounting file for each printer, as lpf has no file locking logic built into it, and two lpfs might corrupt each other's entries if - they were to write to the same file at the same time. A easy way to - insure a separate accounting file for each printer is to use + they were to write to the same file at the same time. An easy way + to insure a separate accounting file for each printer is to use af=acct in /etc/printcap. Then, each accounting file will be in the spooling directory for a printer, in a file named acct. @@ -3821,7 +3822,7 @@ &prompt.user; lpq -P bamboo - shows the queue for the printer named bamboo. Here + shows the queue for the printer named bamboo. Here is an example of the output of the lpq command: @@ -3845,7 +3846,7 @@ be currently printing that job. The second job consists of data passed as the standard input to the &man.lpr.1; command. The third job came from user mary; it is a much larger - job. The pathname of the files she's trying to print is too long to + job. The pathname of the file she is trying to print is too long to fit, so the &man.lpq.1; command just shows three dots. The very first line of the output from &man.lpq.1; is also useful: @@ -3883,7 +3884,7 @@ To remove the job from a specific printer, add the option. The following command removes job number - 10 from the queue for the printer bamboo: + 10 from the queue for the printer bamboo: &prompt.user; lprm -P bamboo 10 @@ -4277,7 +4278,7 @@ to get printer status and to restart a hung printer only. Here is a summary of the &man.lpc.8; commands. Most of the - commands takes a printer-name argument to + commands take a printer-name argument to tell on which printer to operate. You can use all for the printer-name to mean all printers listed in /etc/printcap. @@ -4289,7 +4290,7 @@ Cancel the current job and stop the printer. Users can - still submit jobs if the queue's enabled. + still submit jobs if the queue is enabled. @@ -4312,7 +4313,7 @@ printer-name - Disable queuing of new jobs. If the printer's started, it + Disable queuing of new jobs. If the printer is running, it will continue to print any jobs remaining in the queue. The superuser (root) can always submit jobs, even to a disabled queue. @@ -4608,9 +4609,9 @@ exit 2 Here is an example /etc/printcap - from a host called orchid. It has a single printer + from a host called orchid. It has a single printer attached to its first parallel port, a Hewlett Packard - LaserJet 3Si named teak. It is using the + LaserJet 3Si named teak. It is using the above script as its text filter: # >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 11:15:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5880637B409; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:15:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logo@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from logo@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7FI8Gw65421; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:08:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logo) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:08:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108151808.f7FI8Gw65421@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in, logo@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29724: Error in handbook section on window managers/GNOME Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Error in handbook section on window managers/GNOME State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: logo State-Changed-When: Wed Aug 15 11:06:54 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29724 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 11:45:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FB937B403; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logo@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from logo@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7FIfvM69076; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:41:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logo) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:41:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108151841.f7FIfvM69076@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk, logo@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29729: Handbook Chapter 11 (Printing) minor changes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook Chapter 11 (Printing) minor changes State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: logo State-Changed-When: Wed Aug 15 11:41:24 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Very nice. Thank you. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29729 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 13: 4:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gatemail.minbas.cu (gatemail.minbas.cu [169.158.88.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2ADC37B406 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:03:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carmen.g@occ.cupet.minbas.cu) Received: (from root@localhost) by gatemail.minbas.cu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7FK3P713594 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 16:03:25 -0400 Received: from mail2.minbas.cu (mail2.minbas.cu [10.16.1.3]) by gatemail.minbas.cu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7FK3Ie13246 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 16:03:18 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail2.minbas.cu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7FK3Ei92360 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 16:03:14 -0400 (CDT) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.16.1.4), claiming to be "correo.minbas.cu" via SMTP by mail2.minbas.cu, id smtpdo92341; Wed Aug 15 20:03:06 2001 Received: from cup.cupet.minbas.cu ([10.90.64.9]) by correo.minbas.cu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.10) id Q6369CTV; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 16:02:19 -0400 Received: from occ.cupet.minbas.cu (OCCSERVER [10.90.10.3]) by cup.cupet.minbas.cu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id QMHXQ5MZ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 16:04:04 -0400 Received: from rrhh [10.90.13.254] by occ.cupet.minbas.cu (FTGate 2, 2, 0, 1); Wed, 15 Aug 01 14:04:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c125bd$7853f7a0$fe0d5a0a@rrhh> From: "carmen" To: Subject: Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:07:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C12593.8F6D26C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-AntiVirus: Mensaje scaneado por MCAFEE NAI ANTIVIRUS actualizado Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C12593.8F6D26C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable help ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C12593.8F6D26C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C12593.8F6D26C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 14: 4:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from yabiru.fmed.uba.ar (yabiru.fmed.uba.ar [157.92.152.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36AB737B405 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:04:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petern@fmed.uba.ar) Received: from fmed.uba.ar ([157.92.152.83]) by yabiru.fmed.uba.ar (8.11.2/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f7FL4bB14433 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:04:41 -0300 Message-ID: <3B7AE225.7D6F3C37@fmed.uba.ar> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:57:09 -0300 From: petern X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [es] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: hola como estan ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org soy de argentina y queria participar de algun proyecto para free quisiera que me manden informacion gracias Alejandro Jaime To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 14:16:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.lab.nuxi.com (meow.lab.nuxi.com [66.123.5.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5028B37B40F for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:16:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chern@meow.lab.nuxi.com) Received: from localhost (chern@localhost) by meow.lab.nuxi.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7FLGBD40181 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:16:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chern@meow.lab.nuxi.com) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:16:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Chern Lee To: Subject: Handbook not updating Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is it me, or is the handbook not updating on the web? On freefall: $ pwd /c/www/data/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books $ ls -la total 33 drwxrwxr-x 10 wosch www 512 Jun 15 00:39 . drwxrwxr-x 4 wosch www 512 Jun 15 00:38 .. drwxrwxr-x 2 wosch www 512 Aug 12 22:41 corp-net-guide drwxrwxr-x 2 wosch www 512 Aug 12 22:41 design-44bsd drwxrwxr-x 3 wosch www 5120 Aug 12 22:41 developers-handbook drwxrwxr-x 2 wosch www 1024 Aug 12 22:42 faq drwxrwxr-x 3 wosch www 3584 Aug 12 22:41 fdp-primer drwxrwxr-x 3 wosch www 13824 Aug 12 22:42 handbook drwxrwxr-x 2 wosch www 3584 Aug 12 22:41 porters-handbook drwxrwxr-x 2 wosch www 1024 Aug 12 22:41 ppp-primer I'm assuming this is the correct documentroot for www.freebsd.org. Shouldn't these be built daly? - chern To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 15:21:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB39637B403 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:21:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7FLt2656610; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:55:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:55:02 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Chern Lee Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook not updating Message-ID: <20010815225502.C3139@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VywGB/WGlW4DM4P8" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from chern@meow.lab.nuxi.com on Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 02:16:11PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --VywGB/WGlW4DM4P8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 02:16:11PM -0700, Chern Lee wrote: > Is it me, or is the handbook not updating on the web? >=20 > On freefall: >=20 > $ pwd > /c/www/data/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books > $ ls -la >=20 > total 33 > drwxrwxr-x 10 wosch www 512 Jun 15 00:39 . > drwxrwxr-x 4 wosch www 512 Jun 15 00:38 .. > drwxrwxr-x 2 wosch www 512 Aug 12 22:41 corp-net-guide > drwxrwxr-x 2 wosch www 512 Aug 12 22:41 design-44bsd > drwxrwxr-x 3 wosch www 5120 Aug 12 22:41 developers-handbook > drwxrwxr-x 2 wosch www 1024 Aug 12 22:42 faq > drwxrwxr-x 3 wosch www 3584 Aug 12 22:41 fdp-primer > drwxrwxr-x 3 wosch www 13824 Aug 12 22:42 handbook > drwxrwxr-x 2 wosch www 3584 Aug 12 22:41 porters-handbook > drwxrwxr-x 2 wosch www 1024 Aug 12 22:41 ppp-primer >=20 > I'm assuming this is the correct documentroot for www.freebsd.org. > Shouldn't these be built daly? They are. But if the Handbook build is broken for some reason (e.g., missing closing tags, that sort of thing) then the old version is kept around. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --VywGB/WGlW4DM4P8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt677UACgkQk6gHZCw343V1MwCffD5IO4A1VnFm688LUJ3JwKOQ 2JIAnRVNuwzWToq58zYgaXKv3fq4164J =ZVCg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VywGB/WGlW4DM4P8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 15:55:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1903F37B40A for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:55:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) id f7FMtAR63622 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:55:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp.sentex.net (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.5/8.11.5av) with ESMTP id f7FMt5X63614 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:55:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010815184927.064cdec8@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:55:04 -0400 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Subject: FAQ Entry ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, This question seems to come up from time to time. "How do I clone my FreeBSD boot disk" Most all of its in disklabel, but perhaps an FAQ example like This assumes that ad0 is your boot hard drive that you want to clone and that ad1 is the destination drive you want to copy to. Note, this does _not_ check for any errors #!/bin/sh # #this example assumes that you want to dupe ad0 to ad1 # #it does ZERO error checking but gives you an idea how to dupe your system disk # #blow away all data one ad1 /bin/dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=512 count=32 # do the fdisk /sbin/fdisk -BI ad1 #create a bootable drive with disk label /sbin/disklabel -w -r -B ad1s1 auto #If you are mass producing this, use a pre-made file with the disk lable info #/sbin/disklabel -R ad1s1 /root/10g-disk #Or do it by hand the first time /sbin/disklabel -e ad1s1 #newfs the slices /sbin/newfs /dev/rad1s1a /sbin/newfs /dev/rad1s1e /sbin/newfs /dev/rad1s1f #enable soft updates /sbin/tunefs -n enable ad1s1e /sbin/tunefs -n enable ad1s1f #mount them up /sbin/mount -o async /dev/ad1s1a /mnt-root /sbin/mount /dev/ad1s1e /mnt-var /sbin/mount /dev/ad1s1f /mnt-usr #dump / restore them cd / ; dump -0 -b 600 -f - / | ( cd /mnt-root ; restore -rf - ) cd /usr ; dump -0 -b 600 -f - /usr | ( cd /mnt-usr ; restore -rf - ) cd /var ; dump -0 -b 600 -f - /var | ( cd /mnt-var ; restore -rf - ) The file 10g-disk looks like # /dev/ad1s1: type: unknown disk: amnesiac label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 16 sectors/cylinder: 1008 cylinders: 19856 sectors/unit: 20015793 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 819200 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 812*) b: 2097152 819200 swap # (Cyl. 812*- 2893*) c: 20015793 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 19856*) e: 4194304 2916352 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 2893*- 7054*) f: 12582912 7110656 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 7054*- 19537*) ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 16: 8:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wolf.istc.kiev.ua (wolf.istc.kiev.ua [193.193.221.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7CA37B403; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 16:08:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kunia@istc.kiev.ua) Received: from localhost (kunia@localhost) by wolf.istc.kiev.ua ( . . / . . ) with ESMTP id BAA26767; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:57:40 +0300 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:57:40 +0300 (EEST) From: Olexander Kunytsa To: Ben Smithurst Cc: , Subject: Re: standard-supfile and stable-supfile have no difference? In-Reply-To: <20010815235045.A40908@strontium.shef.vinosystems.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Ben Smithurst wrote: > Olexander Kunytsa wrote: > > > It is pointed that 'standard-supfile' contains CVSup collections > > for FreeBSD-current source tree, but how does it differ from > > 'stable-supfile'? > > standard-supfile in -stable now gets you the -stable sources, which > kinda makes sense really. Where does it say that it gets you the > -current sources? If it's somewhere in our documentation, please send > in a PR and someone will fix it. > Enigma# head standard-supfile # $FreeBSD: src/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile,v 1.17.2.2 2001/04/11 21:5 0:13 nik Exp $ # # This file contains all of the "CVSup collections" that make up the # FreeBSD-current source tree. # Enigma# uname -a FreeBSD Enigma.unix.land 4.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE #0: Wed Aug 15 22:43:04 EEST 2001 root@Enigma.unix.land:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DURON i386 today's cvsup and world To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 16:31:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow025o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F28237B401 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 16:31:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx.my.domain ([62.31.194.122]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:31:34 +0100 From: John Murphy To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: elision Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:33:30 +0100 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So, should all occurrences of it's be replaced with it is (etc), in the = Handbook? I am seeing a few in Chapter 12 (disks). John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 17:12:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from Blitzkrieg.Blackened.com (blitzkrieg.blackened.com [198.182.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C4637B407 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:12:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logo@FreeBSD.org) Received: by Blitzkrieg.Blackened.com (Postfix, from userid 1028) id 5F6F61E81C; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:12:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Blitzkrieg.Blackened.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C86618C9B; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:12:47 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:12:47 -0700 (MST) From: Valentino Vaschetto X-Sender: logo@Blitzkrieg.Blackened.com To: John Murphy Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: elision In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm for it. Sorry.. I am for it :P -val On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, John Murphy wrote: > So, should all occurrences of it's be replaced with it is (etc), in the Handbook? > > I am seeing a few in Chapter 12 (disks). > > John > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 17:21: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8CE37B413 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:21:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7FNxI584618; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:59:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:59:18 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: John Murphy Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: elision Message-ID: <20010816005918.E3139@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kA1LkgxZ0NN7Mz3A" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk on Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 12:33:30AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --kA1LkgxZ0NN7Mz3A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 12:33:30AM +0100, John Murphy wrote: > So, should all occurrences of it's be replaced with it is (etc), in=20 > the Handbook? >=20 > I am seeing a few in Chapter 12 (disks). Yes. The general policy is not to use contractions in the text; it leads to a slightly more formal tone, and can make things a little easier for the translators. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --kA1LkgxZ0NN7Mz3A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt7DNUACgkQk6gHZCw343X9mgCfZ+spC+we7fcreCt4eNh4HrhA ruwAn11LR3vKgvuClkJoOTyOzJvQhM1n =1eh9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kA1LkgxZ0NN7Mz3A-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 17:43:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail36.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail36.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3080B37B40C; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:43:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail36.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010816004315.BEAV27990.femail36.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:43:15 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7G0hEU68615; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108160043.f7G0hEU68615@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org Subject: Handbook i386-ness From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1266204352P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:43:14 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1266204352P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi folks-- It's been a long day of code hacking so I might not be real coherent. I'm staring at the "Preparing for Installation" part of the "Installing FreeBSD" chapter (i.e. the text before Randy Pratt's most excellent illustrated installation guide). There's a few i386-isms contained within (some pathnames, boot-up instructions, MS-DOS User's Q&A). Is this a problem? Some of them are addressed by the installation document that is a part of RELNOTESng, which is why it's an architecture-specific document. Bruce. PS. As an aside, the installation document in RELNOTESng is a real mess. It has this "Dr. Frankenstein's monster" look to it (well, really it's Dr. Mah's monster). I'd love suggestions as to how to improve its organization (including cutting out sections, if necessary). Syncing to the Handbook is not quite what I had in mind, because I don't want to lose the non-i386-specific content. --==_Exmh_1266204352P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7exci2MoxcVugUsMRAvx5AKDrVKWrnezshYBH+6tw81TbPGn/NgCdFm/b es4I05XeztYiA8wUC0V7vSM= =RInP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1266204352P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 18:50:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C0F37B40E for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7G1o1w41800; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from theshell.com (arsenic.theshell.com [63.236.138.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0973F37B409 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:47:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pavalos@theshell.com) Received: (qmail 95768 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2001 01:47:30 -0000 Received: from radium.theshell.com (root@63.236.138.3) by arsenic.theshell.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 2001 01:47:30 -0000 Received: (from pavalos@localhost) by radium.theshell.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) id f7G1lUE45587; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:47:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pavalos) Message-Id: <200108160147.f7G1lUE45587@radium.theshell.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:47:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Avalos Reply-To: Peter Avalos To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29740: [PATCH] Setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj is a bad idea, but not commented Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29740 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] Setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj is a bad idea, but not commented >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 15 18:50:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Peter Avalos >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: System: FreeBSD radium.theshell.com 4.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE #1: Sat Aug 11 20:19:09 PDT 2001 pavalos@radium.theshell.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RADIUM i386 >Description: When setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj, make gets confused. Since /usr/obj is a fairly intuitive place to put the temp files for making ports, I think it should be documented in make.conf(5) and src/etc/defaults/make.conf. ports(7) may also be a good place to put this as well. >How-To-Repeat: echo WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj >> /etc/make.conf Try building a port. >Fix: Although quite simple, these diffs should provide enough documentation so people don't get too stuck on this problem. Since 4.4-RELEASE is coming quickly, this may be a quite good MFC candidate. Index: make.conf.5 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man5/make.conf.5,v retrieving revision 1.25 diff -u -r1.25 make.conf.5 --- make.conf.5 2001/08/07 13:26:57 1.25 +++ make.conf.5 2001/08/16 01:33:50 @@ -760,7 +760,8 @@ support will build without X11 support by default. .It Va WRKDIRPREFIX .Pq Vt str -Where to create temporary files used when building ports. +Specify where to create temporary files used when building ports. +Do not set this to /usr/obj. .It Va X11BASE .Pq Vt str Should be set to where the X11 distribution has been Index: make.conf =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/etc/defaults/make.conf,v retrieving revision 1.171 diff -u -r1.171 make.conf --- make.conf 2001/08/12 18:47:56 1.171 +++ make.conf 2001/08/16 01:33:02 @@ -300,7 +300,7 @@ #MASTER_SORT_REGEX?= ^file: ^ftp://ftp\.FreeBSD\.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/ ://[^/]*\.jp/ ://[^/]*\.jp\. # # Ports can place their working directories somewhere other than under -# /usr/ports. +# /usr/ports. Do not set this to /usr/obj. #WRKDIRPREFIX= /var/tmp # # Kerberos IV >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 20:33: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD03237B407 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:33:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B2DF83E28; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B163C12B for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:33:01 -0700 (PDT) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Moving authors.ent to share/sgml Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:32:56 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010816033301.B2DF83E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org authors.ent, now found in doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook, is no longer Handbook-specific. In fact, its primary consumer is articles/contributers, which lists all of the committers by their entity. Other documents, incl. the FAQ, use it, too. I propose to move (via repo-copy) authors.ent to share/sgml. The following patch to share/sgml/catalog should do the trick. Any objections? Index: catalog =================================================================== RCS file: /ref/cvsf/doc/share/sgml/catalog,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -u -r1.18 catalog diff -u -r1.18 catalog --- catalog 2001/08/05 19:40:38 1.18 +++ catalog 2001/08/16 03:18:55 @@ -29,6 +29,9 @@ PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Miscellaneous FreeBSD Entities//EN" "freebsd.ent" +PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Author Entities//EN" + "authors.ent" + -- ...................................................................... -- -- English specific ..................................................... -- @@ -42,9 +45,6 @@ PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook BookInfo Entities//EN" "../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/bookinfo.ent" - -PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Author Entities//EN" - "../../en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/authors.ent" -- ...................................................................... -- -- French specific ...................................................... -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 21:40:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0121F37B407 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7G4e0365242; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:40:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95F537B40F for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:31:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7G4VWh64514; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:31:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108160431.f7G4VWh64514@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:31:32 -0700 (PDT) From: ncalvo To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/29744: [PATCH] SGML tags and entities in the "Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD" article (minor nit-picking) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29744 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] SGML tags and entities in the "Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD" article (minor nit-picking) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 15 21:40:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: ncalvo >Release: 4.3-RELEASE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD amnesiac.no.domain 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Tue Aug 7 02:33:38 CEST 2001 root@amnesiac.no.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/AMNESIAC i386 >Description: SGML markup changes to the article "Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD", which is part of the FreeBSD documentation: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/dialup-firewall/article.sgml Please note that the enclosed patch is relative to the referenced file (post pr docs/29086), not the one corresponding to 4.3-RELEASE. Nothing really important, just minor nit-picking. >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: (patch follows; length==54 lines) --- article.sgml.orig Thu Aug 16 06:02:35 2001 +++ article.sgml Thu Aug 16 06:19:57 2001 @@ -28,7 +28,7 @@ This article documents how to setup a firewall using a PPP - dialup with FreeBSD and IPFW, and specifically with firewalling over + dialup with FreeBSD and &man.ipfw.8;, and specifically with firewalling over a dialup with a dynamically assigned IP address. This document does not cover setting up your PPP connection in the first place. @@ -175,7 +175,7 @@ order of allow first and then deny. The premise is that you add the rules for your allows, and then everything else is denied. :) - Now, let's make the dir /etc/firewall. Change into the directory and + Now, let's make the dir /etc/firewall. Change into the directory and edit the file fwrules as we specified in rc.conf. Please note that you can change this filename to be anything you wish. This guide just gives an example of a @@ -247,16 +247,16 @@ - Why are you using natd and ipfw when you could be using - the built in ppp-filters? + Why are you using &man.natd.8; and &man.ipfw.8; when you could be using + the built in &man.ppp.8; filters? I'll have to be honest and say there's no definitive reason - why I use ipfw and natd instead of the built in ppp filters. From + why I use &man.ipfw.8; and &man.natd.8; instead of the built in &man.ppp.8; filters. From the discussions I've had with people the consensus seems to be - that while ipfw is certainly more powerful and more configurable - than the ppp filters, what it makes up for in functionality it + that while &man.ipfw.8; is certainly more powerful and more configurable + than the &man.ppp.8; filters, what it makes up for in functionality it loses in being easy to customise. One of the reasons I use it is because I prefer firewalling to be done at a kernel level rather than by a userland program. @@ -289,9 +289,9 @@ - The simple answer is no. The reason for this is that natd is + The simple answer is no. The reason for this is that &man.natd.8; is doing address translation for anything being - diverted through the tun0 device. As far as it's concerned + diverted through the tun0 device. As far as it's concerned incoming packets will speak only to the dynamically assigned IP address and NOT to the internal network. Note though that you can add a rule like $fwcmd add deny all from >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 21:41:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D888937B409 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:41:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010816044134.JUNX18000.femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:41:34 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7G4fVU70029; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:41:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108160441.f7G4fVU70029@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moving authors.ent to share/sgml In-Reply-To: <20010816033301.B2DF83E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <20010816033301.B2DF83E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Comments: In-reply-to Dima Dorfman message dated "Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:32:56 -0700." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-822976464P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:41:31 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-822976464P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Dima Dorfman wrote: > I propose to > move (via repo-copy) authors.ent to share/sgml. The following patch > to share/sgml/catalog should do the trick. > > Any objections? I didn't test your patch, but I think it makes sense to do this! Idle thought: What about newsgroups.ent? Bruce. --==_Exmh_-822976464P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7e0772MoxcVugUsMRArV3AJoCo7OMyF3tqu3w2qQFQlIglp8koACgzEVO VWeYX7WQ3Fp/2ZqB+mR99Yk= =4uZn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-822976464P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 21:51:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [210.190.142.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A8237B406 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:51:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Received: from mail.hrslab.yi.org (p0212-ip01funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [211.123.225.212]) by eos.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id NAA28931; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:51:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.hrslab.yi.org [192.168.0.10]) by mail.hrslab.yi.org (8.9.3/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id NAA25642; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:49:43 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:48:57 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010816.134857.71080920.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: dima@unixfreak.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving authors.ent to share/sgml From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20010816033301.B2DF83E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <20010816033301.B2DF83E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b101 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Dima, Dima Dorfman wrote in <20010816033301.B2DF83E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org>: dima> authors.ent, now found in doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook, is no dima> longer Handbook-specific. In fact, its primary consumer is dima> articles/contributers, which lists all of the committers by their dima> entity. Other documents, incl. the FAQ, use it, too. I propose to dima> move (via repo-copy) authors.ent to share/sgml. The following patch dima> to share/sgml/catalog should do the trick. I agree. By the way, Japanese translation team wants to keep Japanese developer's entry in Japanese as before, so I am thinking of putting additional catalog the following way: Index: catalog =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/share/sgml/catalog,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -d -u -I\$FreeBSD:.*\$ -I\$Id:.*\$ -I\$hrs:.*\$ -r1.2 catalog --- catalog 2001/06/21 03:38:32 1.2 +++ catalog 2001/08/16 03:59:08 @@ -9,3 +9,6 @@ PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Mailing List Entities//JP" "mailing-lists.ent" +PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Author Entities//JA" + "authors.ent" This lets Japanese version of authors.ent override some entries in English one. If there are problems, please let me know. -- | Hiroki Sato | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 21:58:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B992737B406 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:58:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DC37A3E28; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CCF3C12B; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:58:37 -0700 (PDT) To: Hiroki Sato Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving authors.ent to share/sgml In-Reply-To: <20010816.134857.71080920.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp>; from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp on "Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:48:57 +0900 (JST)" Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:58:32 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010816045837.DC37A3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hiroki Sato writes: > dima> authors.ent, now found in doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook, is no > dima> longer Handbook-specific. In fact, its primary consumer is > dima> articles/contributers, which lists all of the committers by their > dima> entity. Other documents, incl. the FAQ, use it, too. I propose to > dima> move (via repo-copy) authors.ent to share/sgml. The following patch > dima> to share/sgml/catalog should do the trick. > > I agree. > > By the way, Japanese translation team wants to keep Japanese > developer's entry in Japanese as before, so I am thinking of putting > additional catalog the following way: Okay, then we should put the main one in en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml instead of share/sgml. That makes sense. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 22: 1:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDCB37B413; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:01:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4EB6B3E2F; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B7D3C12D; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:01:26 -0700 (PDT) To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Moving authors.ent and nuking newsgroups.ent (was: Moving authors.ent to share/sgml) In-Reply-To: <200108160441.f7G4fVU70029@intruder.bmah.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on "Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:41:31 -0700" Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:01:21 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010816050126.4EB6B3E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Bruce A. Mah" writes: > Idle thought: What about newsgroups.ent? That should probably be nuked. It defines one entity, and that entity is used *once* in the entire doc tree (handbook/contrib). It might've been a good idea at the time since newsgroups were still a popular (and semi-"official"?) form of support and someone forsaw adding more, but that didn't happen, and I don't even know if that newsgroup still exists. Any objections to removing that? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 22:10: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E9637B403 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7G5A1271253; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108160510.f7G5A1271253@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/29744: [PATCH] SGML tags and entities in the "Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD" article (minor nit-picking) Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29744; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: ncalvo Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29744: [PATCH] SGML tags and entities in the "Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD" article (minor nit-picking) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:09:29 -0700 ncalvo writes: > --- article.sgml.orig Thu Aug 16 06:02:35 2001 > +++ article.sgml Thu Aug 16 06:19:57 2001 > @@ -28,7 +28,7 @@ > > > This article documents how to setup a firewall using a PPP > - dialup with FreeBSD and IPFW, and specifically with firewalling over > + dialup with FreeBSD and &man.ipfw.8;, and specifically with firewalling over I don't know if replacing every instance of "ipfw" with &man.ipfw.8; is such a good idea. Some people are concerned that manual page entites are being abused in this fasion, and since this entire thing is practically about ipfw, it might be more appropriate to use , or just leave it alone. The other fixes look okay. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 22:49:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B97337B401; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:49:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010816054921.LLJE29353.femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:49:21 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7G5nKu70510; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:49:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108160549.f7G5nKu70510@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moving authors.ent and nuking newsgroups.ent (was: Moving authors.ent to share/sgml) In-Reply-To: <20010816050126.4EB6B3E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <20010816050126.4EB6B3E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Comments: In-reply-to Dima Dorfman message dated "Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:01:21 -0700." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-74306176P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:49:20 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-74306176P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Dima Dorfman wrote: > "Bruce A. Mah" writes: > > Idle thought: What about newsgroups.ent? I should have worded this "what about repo-copying newsgroups.ent"? > That should probably be nuked. It defines one entity, and that entity > is used *once* in the entire doc tree (handbook/contrib). It might've > been a good idea at the time since newsgroups were still a popular > (and semi-"official"?) form of support and someone forsaw adding more, > but that didn't happen, and I don't even know if that newsgroup still > exists. There was one place I was thinking of adding a reference to the one defined entity (would have gone in the README file in the release documentation). There's another group too, analogous to our -announce list: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce. Last time I looked, the newsgroup is still there, but I personally am without USENET access for the first time in fourteen years. > Any objections to removing that? I think this is one of those things where I *might* use it, but if you nuked the file that defined the entity, I'd either just forget about it or I'd mark up the text manually. That's a long-winded way of saying I guess it doesn't matter much to me. :-) Cheers, Bruce. --==_Exmh_-74306176P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7e17g2MoxcVugUsMRAmxjAJ4+eHAp//qceueSnOXpHOFUrVUMKACg30ts PJPhHQpu/wqZc1Vz3drPxpQ= =dmqC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-74306176P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 15 23: 8:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B6837B41D; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 23:08:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DD1113E28; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 23:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4BF3C12B; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 23:08:02 -0700 (PDT) To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moving authors.ent and nuking newsgroups.ent (was: Moving authors.ent to share/sgml) In-Reply-To: <200108160549.f7G5nKu70510@intruder.bmah.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on "Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:49:20 -0700" Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 23:07:57 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010816060802.DD1113E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) writes: > If memory serves me right, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > "Bruce A. Mah" writes: > > That should probably be nuked. It defines one entity, and that entity > > is used *once* in the entire doc tree (handbook/contrib). It might've > > been a good idea at the time since newsgroups were still a popular > > (and semi-"official"?) form of support and someone forsaw adding more, > > but that didn't happen, and I don't even know if that newsgroup still > > exists. > > There was one place I was thinking of adding a reference to the one > defined entity (would have gone in the README file in the release > documentation). There's another group too, analogous to our -announce > list: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce. > > Last time I looked, the newsgroup is still there, but I personally am > without USENET access for the first time in fourteen years. > > > Any objections to removing that? > > I think this is one of those things where I *might* use it, but if you > nuked the file that defined the entity, I'd either just forget about it > or I'd mark up the text manually. That's a long-winded way of saying > I guess it doesn't matter much to me. :-) I think one file for one or two entities is overdoing it. (If I had known it existed prior to your message, I'd have suggested removing it sooner.) First, we don't need an entity for something that's used once, or even twice, in the tree, and second, we don't need to put every entity in a separate file. If we do need the entity, it could go in freebsd.ent. I guess when someone created it they imagined that newsgroups would end up as popular and widely used as mailing list (for FreeBSD matters), which seems not to be the case. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 0:22:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD2337B40D; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:22:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f7G77xG47834; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:07:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:07:59 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: jdp@FreeBSD.org, Olexander Kunytsa Cc: Ben Smithurst , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: standard-supfile and stable-supfile have no difference? Message-ID: <20010816100759.D40958@sunbay.com> References: <20010815235045.A40908@strontium.shef.vinosystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from kunia@istc.kiev.ua on Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 01:57:40AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 01:57:40AM +0300, Olexander Kunytsa wrote: > On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Ben Smithurst wrote: > > > Olexander Kunytsa wrote: > > > > > It is pointed that 'standard-supfile' contains CVSup collections > > > for FreeBSD-current source tree, but how does it differ from > > > 'stable-supfile'? > > > > standard-supfile in -stable now gets you the -stable sources, which > > kinda makes sense really. Where does it say that it gets you the > > -current sources? If it's somewhere in our documentation, please send > > in a PR and someone will fix it. > > > > Enigma# head standard-supfile > # $FreeBSD: src/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile,v 1.17.2.2 > 2001/04/11 21:5 > 0:13 nik Exp $ > # > # This file contains all of the "CVSup collections" that make up the > # FreeBSD-current source tree. > # > And also in README. I think that either standard-supfile should be deleted from -STABLE, or standard-supfile should be (repo)moved to current-supfile, in both -CURRENT and -STABLE. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 0:50:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259E937B40D for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7G7o4597594; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from roller.ukma.kiev.ua (relay1.UKMA.Kiev.UA [194.44.142.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD1437B403 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:43:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kunia@snark.ukma.kiev.ua) Received: from snark.ukma.kiev.ua (snark.ukma.kiev.ua [194.44.143.83]) by roller.ukma.kiev.ua (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7G7ikc55786 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:44:47 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kunia@snark.ukma.kiev.ua) Received: (from kunia@localhost) by snark.ukma.kiev.ua (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7G7h3R25774; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:43:03 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kunia) Message-Id: <200108160743.f7G7h3R25774@snark.ukma.kiev.ua> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:43:03 +0300 (EEST) From: Olexandr Kunytsa Reply-To: Olexandr Kunytsa To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29767: incorrect description of 'standart-supfile' Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29767 >Category: docs >Synopsis: incorrect description of 'standart-supfile' >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 16 00:50:02 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Olexandr Kunytsa >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: XTC >Environment: System: FreeBSD snark.ukma.kiev.ua 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #2: Fri Jul 27 11:48:33 EEST 2001 root@snark.ukma.kiev.ua:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AUDIO i386 >Description: standard-supfile in -stable now gets you the -stable sources, but it is pointed inside the file that it contains "CVSup collections" for current-sources. >How-To-Repeat: enigma# head -4 standard-supfile # $FreeBSD: src/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile,v 1.17.2.2 2001/04/11 21:5 0:13 nik Exp $ # # This file contains all of the "CVSup collections" that make up the # FreeBSD-current source tree. enigma# head -4 stable-supfile # $FreeBSD: src/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile,v 1.19.2.4 2000/08/18 18:50: 21 jkh Exp $ # # This file contains all of the "CVSup collections" that make up the # FreeBSD-stable source tree. enigma# grep -v # standard-supfile > 1 enigma# grep -v # stable-supfile > 2 enigma# diff -u 1 2 enigma# >Fix: --- standard-supfile.orig Thu Aug 16 10:30:23 2001 +++ standard-supfile Thu Aug 16 10:30:52 2001 @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ # $FreeBSD: src/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile,v 1.17.2.2 2001/04/11 21:50:13 nik Exp $ # # This file contains all of the "CVSup collections" that make up the -# FreeBSD-current source tree. +# FreeBSD-stable source tree. # # CVSup (CVS Update Protocol) allows you to download the latest CVS # tree (or any branch of development therefrom) to your system easily >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 1: 0: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB37D37B406 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7G803398475; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108160800.f7G803398475@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: docs/29767: incorrect description of 'standart-supfile' Reply-To: Ruslan Ermilov Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29767; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Olexandr Kunytsa Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/29767: incorrect description of 'standart-supfile' Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:58:13 +0300 On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 10:43:03AM +0300, Olexandr Kunytsa wrote: > > standard-supfile in -stable now gets you the -stable sources, but it > is pointed inside the file that it contains "CVSup collections" for > current-sources. > And also in README. I think that either standard-supfile should be deleted from -STABLE *OR* standard-supfile should be (repo)moved to current-supfile in -CURRENT, and MFC'ed to -STABLE. With corrections to README. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 1:10: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3500337B409; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:10:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7G89wG02982; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:09:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:09:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108160809.f7G89wG02982@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, jdp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/29767: incorrect description of 'standart-supfile' Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: incorrect description of 'standart-supfile' Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jdp Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Aug 16 01:09:08 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: John, could you please look at this? http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29767 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 1:33:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5126737B40B for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:33:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id C93C64B65D; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:39:06 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Dima Dorfman Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/29744: [PATCH] SGML tags and entities in the "Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD" article (minor nit-picking) Message-ID: <20010816013906.F8937@windriver.com> References: <200108160510.f7G5A1271253@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108160510.f7G5A1271253@freefall.freebsd.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 10:10:01PM -0700 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 10:10:01PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > > > This article documents how to setup a firewall using a PPP > > - dialup with FreeBSD and IPFW, and specifically with firewalling over > > + dialup with FreeBSD and &man.ipfw.8;, and specifically with firewalling over > > I don't know if replacing every instance of "ipfw" with &man.ipfw.8; > is such a good idea. Some people are concerned that manual page The uppercase IPFW really bothers me. Personally I'd like to see a couple &man.ipfw.8; (maybe just 1) entities and then the rest changed to lower case and wrapped in . - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 2:21:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381CE37B40A for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 02:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.167]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10365 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:18:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA24162 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:18:12 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:18:12 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: handbook does not build Message-ID: <20010816111812.A24074@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message from wosch@FreeBSD.org (Cron Daemon) ----- Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:17:44 -0700 (PDT) ===> conspectus/advocacy/2000/11 ===> ports (cd /c/www/build/www/en/ports && make -f Makefile.inc0 all) ===> doc (unset DESTDIR || true; cd /c/www/build/www/en/doc/../../../doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 && make FORMATS=html-split\ html all) ===> doc/articles ===> doc/articles/contributors ===> doc/articles/dialup-firewall ===> doc/articles/diskless-x ===> doc/articles/explaining-bsd ===> doc/articles/filtering-bridges ===> doc/articles/freebsd-questions ===> doc/articles/fonts ===> doc/articles/formatting-media ===> doc/articles/ipsec-must ===> doc/articles/mh ===> doc/articles/multi-os ===> doc/articles/new-users ===> doc/articles/programming-tools ===> doc/articles/pxe ===> doc/articles/serial-uart ===> doc/articles/solid-state ===> doc/articles/storage-devices ===> doc/articles/vm-design ===> doc/articles/zip-drive ===> doc/books ===> doc/books/corp-net-guide ===> doc/books/design-44bsd ===> doc/books/developers-handbook ===> doc/books/faq ===> doc/books/fdp-primer ===> doc/books/handbook scr2png < install/userconfig.scr > install/userconfig.png scr2png: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en. 2.94 real 1.26 user 0.57 sys ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 2:54:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E72437B407 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 02:54:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A83F13A0236; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 02:54:07 -0700 Message-ID: <3B7B983F.D888AA2C@urx.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 02:54:07 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: handbook does not build References: <20010816111812.A24074@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > ----- Forwarded message from wosch@FreeBSD.org (Cron Daemon) ----- > Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:17:44 -0700 (PDT) > > ===> conspectus/advocacy/2000/11 > ===> ports > (cd /c/www/build/www/en/ports && make -f Makefile.inc0 all) > ===> doc > (unset DESTDIR || true; cd /c/www/build/www/en/doc/../../../doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 && make FORMATS=html-split\ html all) > ===> doc/articles > ===> doc/articles/contributors > ===> doc/articles/dialup-firewall > ===> doc/articles/diskless-x > ===> doc/articles/explaining-bsd > ===> doc/articles/filtering-bridges > ===> doc/articles/freebsd-questions > ===> doc/articles/fonts > ===> doc/articles/formatting-media > ===> doc/articles/ipsec-must > ===> doc/articles/mh > ===> doc/articles/multi-os > ===> doc/articles/new-users > ===> doc/articles/programming-tools > ===> doc/articles/pxe > ===> doc/articles/serial-uart > ===> doc/articles/solid-state > ===> doc/articles/storage-devices > ===> doc/articles/vm-design > ===> doc/articles/zip-drive > ===> doc/books > ===> doc/books/corp-net-guide > ===> doc/books/design-44bsd > ===> doc/books/developers-handbook > ===> doc/books/faq > ===> doc/books/fdp-primer > ===> doc/books/handbook > scr2png < install/userconfig.scr > install/userconfig.png > scr2png: not found This probably means you don't have docproj-1.8 setup. You need to update your ports and then redo docproj. Scr2png showed up on the dependancy list for 1.8. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 3:51:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8242F37B40A for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 03:51:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7GAM5N35568; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:22:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:22:05 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Dima Dorfman Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: `make lint` broken for any document which uses -V option to jade Message-ID: <20010816112205.A35494@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010814061650.F3F883E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010814061650.F3F883E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 11:16:45PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 11:16:45PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > With this, all the documents except the Handbook[1] pass `make lint`. > Previously, the committers-guide, sold-state, contributers, and the > faq would fail. Cool. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt7ns0ACgkQk6gHZCw343WSVACdEet+vdF+Spn7xb4j0gJ0nHbs J3cAniBwxWs/+XLTLBKtoEtwFz/L0SRC =ygUS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 3:51:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4419437B40B for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 03:51:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7GAOZu35598; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:24:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:24:35 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Dima Dorfman Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving authors.ent to share/sgml Message-ID: <20010816112435.C35494@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010816033301.B2DF83E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="f0KYrhQ4vYSV2aJu" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010816033301.B2DF83E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 08:32:56PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --f0KYrhQ4vYSV2aJu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 08:32:56PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > authors.ent, now found in doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook, is no > longer Handbook-specific. In fact, its primary consumer is > articles/contributers, which lists all of the committers by their > entity. Other documents, incl. the FAQ, use it, too. I propose to > move (via repo-copy) authors.ent to share/sgml. The following patch > to share/sgml/catalog should do the trick. Yes. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --f0KYrhQ4vYSV2aJu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt7n2MACgkQk6gHZCw343UlcwCcC1g/rOygPQjW5IvUshqqZ0lx 5W4An3BkvqlmzNF9925d1HrIhCHlCc9A =Dial -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f0KYrhQ4vYSV2aJu-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 3:53:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF52637B403 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 03:53:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7GAO6o35588; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:24:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:24:06 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Hiroki Sato Cc: dima@unixfreak.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving authors.ent to share/sgml Message-ID: <20010816112406.B35494@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010816033301.B2DF83E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <20010816.134857.71080920.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010816.134857.71080920.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp>; from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp on Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 01:48:57PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 01:48:57PM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Mailing List Entities//JP" > "mailing-lists.ent" >=20 > +PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Author Entities//JA" > + "authors.ent" >=20 //JA or //JP ? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt7n0YACgkQk6gHZCw343UTuwCeIUaeL23/AkpJpig3+aLeLX3/ rvUAoJCbphYnrntEMkfPKu/7HnwZS6I7 =xRZX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 4:40:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E56B37B40A for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 04:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7GBe1k52212; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 04:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E86D737B40F for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 04:37:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 29748 invoked by uid 100); 16 Aug 2001 11:37:37 -0000 Message-Id: <20010816113737.29747.qmail@guru.mired.org> Date: 16 Aug 2001 11:37:37 -0000 From: Mike Meyer Reply-To: Mike Meyer To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29771: [PATCH] rc(8) man page has an out of date description of rc.d scripts Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29771 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] rc(8) man page has an out of date description of rc.d scripts >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 16 04:40:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Meyer >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: Meyer Consulting >Environment: System: FreeBSD guru.mired.org 4.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE #3: Sun Aug 12 05:20:48 CDT 2001 mwm@guru.mired.org:/sharetmp/obj/usr/src/sys/GURU i386 >Description: The rc(8) man page describes rc.d scripts, and even includes a sample script. However, it only discuses the "start" option, and ignores the "stop" option used by rc.shutdown. >How-To-Repeat: $ man rc >Fix: The attached patch adds a description of the shutdown time requirements for the scripts. It also extends the example to handle "stop", and changes the error case to be a slightly more standard "usage" message and to cause the script to indicate an error on exit. There should be a better place to put this stuff, but I'm not sure where that would be. --- rc.8 Sat Jul 21 09:08:34 2001 +++ /tmp/rc.8 Thu Aug 16 06:00:16 2001 @@ -71,7 +71,7 @@ The .Nm rc.d directories contain scripts which will be automatically -executed at boot time. +executed at boot and shutdown time. The specified directories are processed immediately after .Nm rc.local is executed. @@ -88,13 +88,20 @@ Any other files or directories present within the directory are silently ignored. .It -When a script is executed, it is passed the string +When a script is executed at boot time, it is passed the string .Dq start as its first and only argument. All .Nm rc.d scripts expected to handle this argument appropriately. .It +When a script is executed at shutdown time, it is passed the string +.Dq stop +as its first and only argument. +All +.Nm rc.d +scripts expected to handle this argument appropriately. +.It The scripts within each directory are executed in lexicographical order. If a specific order is required, numbers may be used as a prefix to the existing filenames, @@ -222,12 +229,17 @@ # # initialization/shutdown script for foobar package +PIDFILE=/var/run/foo.pid case "$1" in start) - /usr/local/sbin/foo -d && echo -n ' foo' + /usr/local/sbin/foo -d -f $PIDFILE && echo -n ' foo' + ;; +stop) + kill `cat $PIDFILE` && echo -n ' foo' ;; *) - echo "unknown option: $1 - should be 'start'" >&2 + echo "usage: `basename $0` {start|stop}" >&2 + exit 1 ;; esac .Ed >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 4:51:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B6537B40C for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 04:51:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7GBhY536545; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:43:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:43:34 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Kent Stewart Cc: Wolfram Schneider , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: handbook does not build Message-ID: <20010816124334.D35494@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010816111812.A24074@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> <3B7B983F.D888AA2C@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/3yNEOqWowh/8j+e" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B7B983F.D888AA2C@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 02:54:07AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --/3yNEOqWowh/8j+e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 02:54:07AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > This probably means you don't have docproj-1.8 setup. You need to update > your ports and then redo docproj. Scr2png showed up on the dependancy list > for 1.8. I've installed this on freefall, and rebuilt the website so the new=20 installation chapter shows up as intended. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --/3yNEOqWowh/8j+e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt7seUACgkQk6gHZCw343VwCgCgjhuUTeGbdD9RKQi0RzUbWf0k Jx8Ani09RQkchMNHRyEtQdrf9aLK9ERi =JLiH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/3yNEOqWowh/8j+e-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 5:53:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [210.190.142.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7BD37B405; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 05:53:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Received: from mail.hrslab.yi.org (p0212-ip01funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [211.123.225.212]) by eos.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id VAA00103; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:53:26 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.hrslab.yi.org [192.168.0.10]) by mail.hrslab.yi.org (8.9.3/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id VAA26596; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:52:54 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:52:29 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010816.215229.97298968.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: nik@freebsd.org Cc: dima@unixfreak.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving authors.ent to share/sgml From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20010816112406.B35494@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010816033301.B2DF83E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <20010816.134857.71080920.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> <20010816112406.B35494@clan.nothing-going-on.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b101 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote in <20010816112406.B35494@clan.nothing-going-on.org>: nik> On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 01:48:57PM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: nik> > PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Mailing List Entities//JP" nik> > "mailing-lists.ent" nik> > nik> > +PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Author Entities//JA" nik> > + "authors.ent" nik> > nik> nik> //JA or //JP ? "//JA" is correct because in ISO 639 Japanese language is defined as JA. The line of "mailing-lists.ent" above is incorrect in reality. I will fix them together. 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--Boundary_(ID_zQ2/rPYW2/8TlCmwyJ+zlA)-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 7:59:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2911837B40E for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 07:59:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 66555 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2001 14:59:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Aug 2001 14:59:02 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200108160800.f7G803398475@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 07:59:07 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: docs/29767: incorrect description of 'standart-supfile' Cc: , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-Aug-01 Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/29767; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Ruslan Ermilov > To: Olexandr Kunytsa > Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: docs/29767: incorrect description of 'standart-supfile' > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:58:13 +0300 > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 10:43:03AM +0300, Olexandr Kunytsa wrote: > > > > standard-supfile in -stable now gets you the -stable sources, but it > > is pointed inside the file that it contains "CVSup collections" for > > current-sources. > > > And also in README. I think that either > > standard-supfile should be deleted from -STABLE > > *OR* > standard-supfile should be (repo)moved to current-supfile > in -CURRENT, and MFC'ed to -STABLE. With corrections to > README. Erm, in the original discussion about this, there was the point that 'standard-supfile' was supposed to follow whatever current branch you were on at the time. Thus, on 4.x, standard-supfile follows RELENG_4, on 4.3, it follows RELENG_4_3, and on -current it follows HEAD. I think that a current-supfile might not be a bad idea however. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 9: 4: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCDF37B40A; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:04:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010816160404.LNHI1756.femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:04:04 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7GG44R76026; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:04:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108161604.f7GG44R76026@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moving authors.ent and nuking newsgroups.ent (was: Moving authors.ent to share/sgml) In-Reply-To: <20010816060802.DD1113E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <20010816060802.DD1113E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Comments: In-reply-to Dima Dorfman message dated "Wed, 15 Aug 2001 23:07:57 -0700." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1806410712P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:04:04 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1806410712P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Dima Dorfman wrote: > I think one file for one or two entities is overdoing it. (If I had > known it existed prior to your message, I'd have suggested removing it > sooner.) First, we don't need an entity for something that's used > once, or even twice, in the tree, and second, we don't need to put > every entity in a separate file. If we do need the entity, it could > go in freebsd.ent. Clearly I don't feel as strongly about this as you do, but on the other hand, if you want to remove it, I'm not going to scream and shout about it. Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1806410712P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7e+702MoxcVugUsMRAvMjAKCFuM+v46ctY+M7TiI7Oiy8fn1QWwCgyjN2 Gz+0V0Q7IM6UTZ+2cTEDYps= =aN20 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1806410712P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 9:37:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E184B37B40D; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:37:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f7GGbax41307; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:37:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:37:36 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/29767: incorrect description of 'standart-supfile' Message-ID: <20010816193735.O73183@sunbay.com> References: <200108160800.f7G803398475@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 07:59:07AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 07:59:07AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 16-Aug-01 Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > The following reply was made to PR docs/29767; it has been noted by GNATS. > > > > From: Ruslan Ermilov > > To: Olexandr Kunytsa > > Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: docs/29767: incorrect description of 'standart-supfile' > > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:58:13 +0300 > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 10:43:03AM +0300, Olexandr Kunytsa wrote: > > > > > > standard-supfile in -stable now gets you the -stable sources, but it > > > is pointed inside the file that it contains "CVSup collections" for > > > current-sources. > > > > > And also in README. I think that either > > > > standard-supfile should be deleted from -STABLE > > > > *OR* > > standard-supfile should be (repo)moved to current-supfile > > in -CURRENT, and MFC'ed to -STABLE. With corrections to > > README. > > Erm, in the original discussion about this, there was the point that > 'standard-supfile' was supposed to follow whatever current branch you were on > at the time. Thus, on 4.x, standard-supfile follows RELENG_4, on 4.3, it > follows RELENG_4_3, and on -current it follows HEAD. > But it doesn't, in fact, follows 4.3 on RELENG_4_3, it's still set to RELENG_4 there. Nor it is to fetch RELENG_4_3 in RELENG_4_3_0_RELEASE. And `standard' comes yet from `crypto' times, it assumes `non-standard'. How about this? For X.Y release, that would be: release-supfile RELENG_X_Y_RELEASE bugfix-supfile RELENG_X_Y stable-supfile RELENG_X current-supfile . For -CURRENT, only stable-supfile and current-supfile make sense probably. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 13:39:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E34A37B407; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:39:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.201]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18720; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010816193735.O73183@sunbay.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:39:28 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: docs/29767: incorrect description of 'standart-supfile' Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-Aug-01 Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 07:59:07AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: >> >> On 16-Aug-01 Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >> > The following reply was made to PR docs/29767; it has been noted by GNATS. >> > >> > From: Ruslan Ermilov >> > To: Olexandr Kunytsa >> > Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG >> > Subject: Re: docs/29767: incorrect description of 'standart-supfile' >> > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:58:13 +0300 >> > >> > On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 10:43:03AM +0300, Olexandr Kunytsa wrote: >> > > >> > > standard-supfile in -stable now gets you the -stable sources, but it >> > > is pointed inside the file that it contains "CVSup collections" for >> > > current-sources. >> > > >> > And also in README. I think that either >> > >> > standard-supfile should be deleted from -STABLE >> > >> > *OR* >> > standard-supfile should be (repo)moved to current-supfile >> > in -CURRENT, and MFC'ed to -STABLE. With corrections to >> > README. >> >> Erm, in the original discussion about this, there was the point that >> 'standard-supfile' was supposed to follow whatever current branch you were >> on >> at the time. Thus, on 4.x, standard-supfile follows RELENG_4, on 4.3, it >> follows RELENG_4_3, and on -current it follows HEAD. >> > But it doesn't, in fact, follows 4.3 on RELENG_4_3, it's still set to > RELENG_4 there. Nor it is to fetch RELENG_4_3 in RELENG_4_3_0_RELEASE. > And `standard' comes yet from `crypto' times, it assumes `non-standard'. Of course it doesn't, this was the _proposal_. I think standard-supfile should be fixed to do that personally. Go look at the archives on -arch on this one though, as there was some sort of decision made. If you want to bring this all up again, I suggest you do it on -arch. > How about this? For X.Y release, that would be: > > release-supfile RELENG_X_Y_RELEASE No point, they already have this on their box or via hte CD's or what not, so no need to cvsup. > bugfix-supfile RELENG_X_Y It's not bugfixes, it's major security fixes only. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 17:14:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow028o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172EB37B401 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:14:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx.my.domain ([62.31.194.122]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:14:17 +0100 From: John Murphy To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:16:13 +0100 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am impressed. It is a good way to write a book :) However: I'm stuck on the tag. I first saw it around IDE, then= found it not around BIOS or SCSI etc. 'twould seem to me that these, and more,= are unequivocal throughout the Manual and could, therefore, be treated as = part of the final process. Else I could easily acronymize (sorry), the = occurrences I find. I think i'm confused, because i tend to say I de E, buyos, skuzy. The latter two seem more acronymy than the first... (I used to say Lie = Nux!) Abbreviation tag anyone? Pronunciation section? RAID is definitely worthy. John. --=20 my analyst says I shouldnot worry about such trivia; but WTF does She know? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 17:14:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow028o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E555537B401; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx.my.domain ([62.31.194.122]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:14:17 +0100 From: John Murphy To: Valentino Vaschetto Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: elision Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:16:13 +0100 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: <0bfont0rq8reu1msu10l8hoksp6csleg4n@4ax.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Valentino Vaschetto wrote: >I'm for it. Sorry.. I am for it :P > I know that feeling... I ended up at: http://www.oreilly.com/oreilly/author/stylesheet.html and saw much = contraction. John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 21: 5: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.ihug.co.nz (smtp4.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C0F37B409 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:04:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anru@ihug.co.nz) Received: from smtp.ihug.co.nz (p406-apx1.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.193.152]) by smtp4.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id QAA08922 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:04:54 +1200 X-Authentication-Warning: smtp4.ihug.co.nz: Host p406-apx1.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.193.152] claimed to be smtp.ihug.co.nz Message-Id: <998021071.530@ihug.co.nz> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:04:31 1200 To: doc@freebsd.org From: anru@ihug.co.nz (John Zheng) Subject: Denial of Service Research MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sir/Madam My name is John Zheng. I sent this email to you a couple days ago to invite you to my on-line survey. This is a friendly reminder in case you missed out the previous one because the web server was affected due to a power failure 2 days ago. I promise I won't bother you again! We are students at the UNITEC Institute of Technology (New Zealand), and currently working on a DoS/DDoS (Denial of service) research project, as required for our degree. For this project we conduct research on the analysis of the DoS/DDoS technologies and threats, as well as anti DoS/DDoS tools. As part of this research, we found your email on the internet. You could be of great help to us if you could fill out our on-line survey, which we have prepared for this project. In return, we will email you the summarized outcome of the project if you do provide your email address in the survey form. 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If you need to contact us, please email to e_URL@hotmail.com Best Regards Leon & John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 16 21:11:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail44.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail44.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C9437B40F; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:11:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail44.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010817041114.IQXR15194.femail44.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:11:14 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7H4BD828408; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:11:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108170411.f7H4BD828408@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml In-Reply-To: <200108161609.f7GG9HH21329@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200108161609.f7GG9HH21329@freefall.freebsd.org> Comments: In-reply-to Nik Clayton message dated "Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:09:17 -0700." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1631776137P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:11:13 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1631776137P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Nik Clayton wrote: > nik 2001/08/16 09:09:17 PDT > > Modified files: > en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml > Log: > Rewrite the intro material. Explain what partitions are. Nuke the > copy that talks about view.exe, makeflp.bat, install.bat, and others, > because they don't exist any more. One concern I have about the intro material (which is quite nice BTW) is that it is now even i386-centric than the old text. Do you think this will be a problem? I spent a bit of time trying to accomodate the alpha folks in re-organizing the INSTALL.TXT file. I was hoping that the "Pre-Installation Tasks" section in the Handbook and Installation document in the release documentation would be able to continue sharing common text, but I'm not sure how hard that will be now. I wonder if we'll wind up with entirely separate installation documents for each architecture in the release documentation... Cheers, Bruce. PS. The organization of INSTALL.TXT is horrible, mostly from my cut-and-paste job. I'm going to take a shot at fixing it over the next few days if possible. PPS. 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Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 1:21:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B4F37B407 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:21:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7H8CUJ59353; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:12:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:12:30 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: John Murphy Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Message-ID: <20010817091230.A59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk on Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 01:16:13AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 01:16:13AM +0100, John Murphy wrote: > I am impressed. It is a good way to write a book :) >=20 > However: I'm stuck on the tag. I first saw it around IDE, then= found > it not around BIOS or SCSI etc. 'twould seem to me that these, and more,= are > unequivocal throughout the Manual and could, therefore, be treated as par= t of > the final process. Else I could easily acronymize (sorry), the occurrenc= es I find. >=20 > I think i'm confused, because i tend to say I de E, buyos, skuzy. > The latter two seem more acronymy than the first... (I used to say Lie N= ux!) An acronym is anything formed from (typically the initial) letters from a phrase. So BIOS, SCSI, RAID, and IDE are all acronyms. An abbreviation is a shortened form of a word. > Abbreviation tag anyone? There is an element. . . As to whether we use the elements or not -- there's no "formal" policy on= =20 this. My personal opinion is that we have, through general usage, evolved= =20 a core set of elements that we use in the documentation -- things like=20 , , , the &man.foo.x; entities, and so on.= =20 If a document is submitted that doesn't use these elements where appropriat= e=20 then I'd try to add it to the mark up before committing it. Then there are "non-core" elements. and fall in to this category. They are nice to have, but it's not a showstopper if they're not used when they should be. But they do add to the value in the text (because then we can produce tables of acronyms, allowing readers to see where acronyms like "IDE" are used in the text), so if you, or anyone else, wants to tighten up the mark up in text that you're looking at then you should feel free to do so. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt80e4ACgkQk6gHZCw343UYFgCdHdUVm4NYZJMw9cdLFX/z5cXB vsQAoIbqhHQoc9OPpx+IGVFtQkYPs9rN =L5K8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 1:44:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (kawoserv.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.180.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02DC37B405 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:44:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (root@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.181.148]) by kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11465; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:44:43 +0200 Received: (from alex@localhost) by fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7H8inN39603; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:44:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:44:49 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: John Murphy Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Message-ID: <20010817104449.B39559@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk on Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 01:16:13AM +0100 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake John Murphy (jfm@blueyonder.co.uk): > The latter two seem more acronymy than the first... (I used to say Lie Nux!) "Lie Nux" is correct. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 1:51:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE6237B408; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:51:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7H8N1R59382; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:23:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:23:01 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml Message-ID: <20010817092301.B59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200108161609.f7GG9HH21329@freefall.freebsd.org> <200108170411.f7H4BD828408@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108170411.f7H4BD828408@intruder.bmah.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 09:11:13PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 09:11:13PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Nik Clayton wrote: > > nik 2001/08/16 09:09:17 PDT > >=20 > > Modified files: > > en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml=20 > > Log: > > Rewrite the intro material. Explain what partitions are. Nuke the > > copy that talks about view.exe, makeflp.bat, install.bat, and others, > > because they don't exist any more. >=20 > One concern I have about the intro material (which is quite nice BTW) is > that it is now even i386-centric than the old text. Do you think this > will be a problem? It's not something I'm entirely comfortable with, but I can only write about what I know. At this point we really need someone with an Alpha who can write about the install process, and tell us how much of the process is common between i386 and alpha, > PPS. "All the world has to talk like 'merikans" nitpick: s/disc/disk/. My understanding has always been that hard disks are "disk" (obviously), while floppies, CDs, and DVDs are "disc". Having just looked at this in more detail, I disc-overed () http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=3Dcompact%20disk which has an interesting usage note. You learn something new every day. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt81GQACgkQk6gHZCw343US+QCdEkiFYn/uWI7mpqEHb1uVxtNe Ra8AmwQoG/wlm0tPKOYWz025/Q/OqBNn =qe6S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 4:18:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C43C37B401 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 04:18:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f7HBIVm92173 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:18:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id NAA26638 for doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:18:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:18:31 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Handbook section for laptops? Message-ID: <20010817131831.A26007@lpt.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just spent some time setting up FreeBSD on my laptop. I had to go through some pain (and I think most newbies would have just given up) and it occurred to me that a section dedicated to laptops would be useful. Of course, I can only contribute information applicable to my own machine and I know very little of laptops in general. But if I make the start, maybe others can add on to it and it may later become a useful handbook chapter? Or is someone already working on this? The main problem areas are: X11 -- while the card is often detected without problem, setting up the monitor section correctly is tricky. The standard XFree86 config programs only give options for CRT monitors so it's not clear what is applicable to a laptop. I could write up what I did, with borrowings from linux laptop sites. PCMCIA -- this gave me some trouble (though it works fine now) and doesn't seem to be covered in the handbook. I could borrow basic info from the manpages and write up the specific things I needed to do. Modems -- usually internal modems are winmodems, but how does one find out? If I try to test it with ppp, I just lock up the machine and only a hard reboot cures it. apm -- I haven't got it working properly yet. Haven't investigated much since it's low priority right now, but some handbook information would be nice. - Rahul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 4:24:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9833E37B407 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 04:24:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from m549-mp1-cvx2a.bri.ntl.com ([62.255.18.37] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 15XhUV-00051M-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:08:40 +0100 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15XhkY-00033v-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:25:14 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:25:14 +0100 From: setantae To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: chroot'ing named(8) Message-ID: <20010817122514.A11760@rhadamanth> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had meant to cc this to -doc (just posted to -questions). Original mail : I've been fighting with setting up named to run in a sandbox on FreeBSD this morning and I've found that it's non-trivial on FreeBSD. Yes, you can get there if you know which manpages to read, but I'm thinking of new users here. This is what I've had to do so far : 1) /etc/namedb is not populated with var/run, var/tmp, dev/null by default. 2) I have also had to add ``-l /etc/namedb/dev/log" to syslogd_flags - this isn't suggested in the Handbook. 3) I've had to compile a static copy of named-xfer to install in /etc/namedb - this also is not documented in the Handbook (it's not even suggested that you'll need a copy in the sandbox). I'm also concerned that I'll need to do this now everytime a change is made to the source tree in src/contrib/bind. 4) I don't like the fact that it's in /etc by default. Assume I was secondarying several thousand zones - space on / is an issue. (Yes, I know I can change this). I think at least that the Handbook needs to be looked at (I'm willing to do this but it'll be in ascii as I'm still learning DocBook and will take a few days as I have visitors this weekend). Also, I think the entire issue of running named in a chroot environment needs to be made easier - setting this up on OpenBSD _is_ trivial. I feel I've only been able to get this successfully set up because I've done it before on other systems - it would be good if this could be made easier in the way that OpenBSD have achieved this. I'm not necessarily suggesting that named is run in a chroot environment by default, but setting it up to do so could be made a lot easier. Any comments are welcome (even if they're just ``Stop moaning''). Ceri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 4:56:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (kawoserv.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.180.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50F937B40D for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 04:56:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (root@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.181.148]) by kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17780; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:56:09 +0200 Received: (from alex@localhost) by fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7HBuFn40144; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:56:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:56:14 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook section for laptops? Message-ID: <20010817135614.A40117@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20010817131831.A26007@lpt.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010817131831.A26007@lpt.ens.fr>; from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in on Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 01:18:31PM +0200 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Rahul Siddharthan (rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in): > X11 -- while the card is often detected without problem, setting up > the monitor section correctly is tricky. The standard XFree86 config > programs only give options for CRT monitors so it's not clear what is > applicable to a laptop. I could write up what I did, with borrowings > from linux laptop sites. Errrr, I just set up usual 1024x768 settings for mine, works great. > PCMCIA -- this gave me some trouble (though it works fine now) and > doesn't seem to be covered in the handbook. I could borrow basic > info from the manpages and write up the specific things I needed to > do. Same here, but that was my fault. I'm now using PCMCIA with the default config from latest -STABLE, and everything works ffine. > Modems -- usually internal modems are winmodems, but how does one find > out? If I try to test it with ppp, I just lock up the machine and > only a hard reboot cures it. I have a winmodem as well, but I don't use it, so I don't have any experience. > apm -- I haven't got it working properly yet. Haven't investigated > much since it's low priority right now, but some handbook information > would be nice. You probably have - as myself - a laptop that doesn't support APM any more, since it does ACPI. Try -CURRENT if you want sleep/resume support. -CURRENT is even nicer vor PCCard, since it does CardBus correctly. Alex > > - Rahul. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 5: 5:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0852437B407 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 05:05:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f7HC5Qm94946 ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:05:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id OAA28124 ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:05:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:05:26 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Alexander Langer Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook section for laptops? Message-ID: <20010817140526.A27978@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20010817131831.A26007@lpt.ens.fr> <20010817135614.A40117@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010817135614.A40117@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de>; from alex@big.endian.de on Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 01:56:14PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexander Langer said on Aug 17, 2001 at 13:56:14: > Thus spake Rahul Siddharthan (rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in): > > > X11 -- while the card is often detected without problem, setting up > > the monitor section correctly is tricky. The standard XFree86 config > > programs only give options for CRT monitors so it's not clear what is > > applicable to a laptop. I could write up what I did, with borrowings > > from linux laptop sites. > > Errrr, I just set up usual 1024x768 settings for mine, works great. Point is, doesn't work great for everyone. For XFree86 3.3.6, I needed to copy a modeline from some linux page. For XFree86 4.1.0, I didn't put in a modeline, but I needed to supply suitable HorizSync and VertRefresh lines. (XFree86 -configure gives you a sample file which "almost" works, you just need to insert those lines.) Even now, with both versions of XFree86, the display is slightly shifted off -- 3 blank pixels on the left, three missing pixels on the right -- but I can live with that. > You probably have - as myself - a laptop that doesn't support APM > any more, since it does ACPI. Actually, apm -Z worked ok with XFree86 3.3.6. With 4.x, the monitor refuses to switch on again. apm -z suspends the machine but I can't get it to resume again -- the timer thing doesn't work either. Anyway, my point is: the handbook is meant to walk new users through basic stuff, so it would be nice to have a section devoted to laptops covering stuff that doesn't appear in the main sections. - Rahul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 5:40:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E9437B40D for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 05:40:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7HCe6W33799; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 05:40:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from alix.lpt.ens.fr (alix.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD30237B401 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 05:37:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@alix.lpt.ens.fr) Received: (from rsidd@localhost) by alix.lpt.ens.fr (8.11.5/8.11.5) id f7HCaB108449; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:36:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsidd) Message-Id: <200108171236.f7HCaB108449@alix.lpt.ens.fr> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:36:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Rahul Siddharthan Reply-To: Rahul Siddharthan To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29803: Handbook section on KDM: update for KDE 2.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29803 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook section on KDM: update for KDE 2.2 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 17 05:40:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rahul Siddharthan >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD alix.lpt.ens.fr 4.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE #0: Tue Aug 14 19:44:15 CEST 2001 root@alix.lpt.ens.fr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BLUERONDO i386 >Description: Some of the description for KDM no longer applies for KDE 2.2 >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Patch for file handbook/x11/chapter.sgml *** chapter.sgml Fri Aug 17 12:45:43 2001 --- chapter.sgml Fri Aug 17 14:31:42 2001 *************** *** 1235,1241 **** what your above labels (KDE, GNOME etc) mean, you need to edit some more files: the same ones used by xdm. In your terminal window, as root, edit the file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession. You will come across a section in the middle looking like this (by --- 1235,1245 ---- what your above labels (KDE, GNOME etc) mean, you need to edit some more files: the same ones used by xdm. ! (Note: In KDE 2.2, this has changed: KDM now uses its own ! configuration files. Please see the KDE 2.2 documentation for ! details, if you are using this version of KDE.) ! In your terminal window, as root, edit the file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession. You will come across a section in the middle looking like this (by >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 6:21:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9177437B406 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 06:21:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7HDAX961625; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:10:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:10:33 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook section for laptops? Message-ID: <20010817141033.H59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010817131831.A26007@lpt.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7J16OGEJ/mt06A90" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010817131831.A26007@lpt.ens.fr>; from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in on Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 01:18:31PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --7J16OGEJ/mt06A90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 01:18:31PM +0200, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > Of course, I can only contribute information applicable to my own > machine and I know very little of laptops in general. But if I make > the start, maybe others can add on to it and it may later become a > useful handbook chapter? =20 The answer to the question "I'd like to contribute something for the Handbook and/or other documentation, is that OK?" is *always* yes. So, er, yes. Please. > Or is someone already working on this? Not that I know of. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --7J16OGEJ/mt06A90 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt9F8gACgkQk6gHZCw343VSBgCgkfoGFszQQpkPNlysOlRKRNxH foAAnAr/O+HYouyi8vH6IgQa6GZ8KhjU =INwW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7J16OGEJ/mt06A90-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 8:20:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E3F37B409 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7HFK1m69860; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0878237B408 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:15:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7HFFlv68942; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:15:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108171515.f7HFFlv68942@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:15:47 -0700 (PDT) From: John Murphy To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/29806: Handbook Chapter 12 (Disks) minor changes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29806 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook Chapter 12 (Disks) minor changes >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 17 08:20:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: John Murphy >Release: 4.x Stable >Organization: >Environment: >Description: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml Revision 1.52 Removed and elements where they were within . Fixed some minor typos. Also, there seems to be a problem with the way <userinput> and <application> elements appear when used within <procedure><step>. See 12.5.1 steps 2 and 3. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks-adding.html >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Apply the following diff to: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml --- chapter Fri Aug 17 16:01:01 2001 +++ chapter.patched Fri Aug 17 16:01:01 2001 @@ -125,7 +125,7 @@ <indexterm><primary>IDE</primary></indexterm> <indexterm><primary>SCSI</primary></indexterm> <indexterm><primary>RAID</primary></indexterm> - <indexterm><primary>fash memory</primary></indexterm> + <indexterm><primary>flash memory</primary></indexterm> <para>Physical drives come in two main flavors, <acronym>IDE</acronym>, or <acronym>SCSI</acronym>; but there are also drives backed by RAID controllers, flash memory, and so @@ -150,7 +150,7 @@ </row> <row> <entry>IDE CDROM drives</entry> - <entry><literal>acd</literal> from 4.1-RELEASE, + <entry><literal>acd</literal> from 4.0-RELEASE, <literal>wcd</literal> before 4.0-RELEASE.</entry> </row> <row> @@ -249,7 +249,7 @@ drives.</para> <sect2 id="disks-fstab"> - <title>The <filename>fstab</filename> File + The fstab File filesystems mounted with fstab @@ -455,7 +455,7 @@ - The <command>umount</command> Command + The umount Command filesystems unmounting @@ -498,7 +498,7 @@ Lets say we want to add a new SCSI disk to a machine that currently only has a single drive. First turn off the computer and install the drive in the computer following the instructions - of the computer, controller, and drive manufacturer. Due the + of the computer, controller, and drive manufacturer. Due to the wide variations of procedures to do this, the details are beyond the scope of this document. @@ -1104,7 +1104,7 @@ Which tool to use to burn the CD depends on whether your CD burner is ATAPI or something else. ATAPI CD burners use the burncd program that is part of - the base system. SCSI and USB CD burners should use the + the base system. SCSI and USB CD burners should use cdrecord from the sysutils/cdrtools port. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 8:24: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lmail.actcom.co.il (smtp.actcom.co.il [192.114.47.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0A837B407 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:24:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nospam@actcom.co.il) Received: from actcom.co.il (p20.ta5.actcom.co.il [192.115.23.130]) by lmail.actcom.co.il (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7HFNwp25710 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:23:58 +0300 Message-ID: <3B7D45A3.5B267BE7@actcom.co.il> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:26:11 +0200 From: Rostislav X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Typo in RELNOTES of FreeBSD 4.4-RC1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org find this word: Ukranian and change it to this one: Ukrainian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 8:40:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B13837B408 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7HFe1472615; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93B3C37B406 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:35:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 82264 invoked by uid 100); 17 Aug 2001 15:35:55 -0000 Message-Id: <20010817153555.82263.qmail@guru.mired.org> Date: 17 Aug 2001 15:35:55 -0000 From: Mike Meyer Reply-To: Mike Meyer To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29807: [PATCH] XFREE86_VERSION is undocumented Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29807 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] XFREE86_VERSION is undocumented >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 17 08:40:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Meyer >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: Meyer Consulting >Environment: System: FreeBSD guru.mired.org 4.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE #3: Sun Aug 12 05:20:48 CDT 2001 mwm@guru.mired.org:/sharetmp/obj/usr/src/sys/GURU i386 >Description: The XFREE86_VERSION variable used by ports isn't documented. >How-To-Repeat: man make.conf >Fix: The following patch adds an entry for XFREE86_VERSION to the make.conf man page. --- make.conf.5 Fri Aug 3 10:16:50 2001 +++ /tmp/make.conf.5 Fri Aug 17 10:33:14 2001 @@ -745,6 +745,12 @@ Should be set to where the X11 distribution has been installed if it is installed anywhere other than .Pa /usr/X11R6 . +.It Va XFREE86_VERSION +.Pq Vt str +Set this to 4 if you have are using XFree86 version 4 instead of +XFree86 version 3. +.Pa XFree86-4 +ports. .El .Sh FILES .Bl -tag -width /etc/defaults/make.conf -compact >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 8:50:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825F037B409 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:50:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010817155024.BALS597.femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:50:24 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7HFoNj04196; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:50:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108171550.f7HFoNj04196@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Rostislav Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Typo in RELNOTES of FreeBSD 4.4-RC1 In-Reply-To: <3B7D45A3.5B267BE7@actcom.co.il> References: <3B7D45A3.5B267BE7@actcom.co.il> Comments: In-reply-to Rostislav message dated "Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:26:11 +0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_947340219P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:50:23 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_947340219P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Rostislav wrote: > find this word: > > Ukranian > > and change it to this one: > > Ukrainian Oops. It's queued up for my next commit to this file. Thanks! Bruce. --==_Exmh_947340219P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7fT0/2MoxcVugUsMRAmvCAKDf62OBfZ0geI7dy62whcB6KdWVsgCgx+VW EaPvnIZ/98Lh2uWQNapTi60= =DPbv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_947340219P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 8:54:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD01B37B40B; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:54:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7HFsXo75798; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:54:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:54:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108171554.f7HFsXo75798@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwm@mired.org, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29771: [PATCH] rc(8) man page has an out of date description of rc.d scripts Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] rc(8) man page has an out of date description of rc.d scripts State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Fri Aug 17 08:51:42 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in a different way, by MFC'ing revision 1.11 from 5.0-CURRENT. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29771 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 9:26:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (www.freebsd.cz [195.113.19.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471EE37B407 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:26:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from horcicka@FreeBSD.cz) Received: from localhost (horcicka@localhost) by dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f7HGQkM14160 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:26:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from horcicka@FreeBSD.cz) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:26:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Horcicka X-X-Sender: To: Subject: New XML/XSL pages problems Message-ID: <20010817175056.S12522-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, while translating new pages to Czech I've found the following problems and suggestions: - www/en/index.html depends on www/en/news/press.xml but there is no such dependency in the www/en/Makefile. - "make clean" and "Last modified" hack do not affect HTML files generated from XML/XSL. - I don't like the tidy's error message: >>Can't open "/home/horcicka/.tidyrc"<<. What about to change the "-f /dev/null" to "2> /dev/null" at the end? I think, the effect is almost the same except the error message above. - What about to remove the old SGML sources replaced by the XML/XSL ones? - If you think of moving some rules for XML/XSL sourced pages build to www/share/mk/web.site.mk, please note that "-latin1" parameter is nedded for tidy to build e.g. czech translation. I don't know how about other translations. - BTW · (·) used in www/en/index.xsl is ISO 8859-1 thing only (not ISO 8859-2 unfortunately) - but it's our problem. :-( Have a nice weekend. Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 10:28:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B869B37B409 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ntlworld.com) Received: from parish ([62.253.85.106]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010817172758.DPLA29790.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:27:58 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f7HHS6O01108; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:28:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:28:05 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Alexander Langer Cc: John Murphy , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Message-ID: <20010817182805.A275@parish> References: <20010817104449.B39559@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010817104449.B39559@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de>; from alex@big.endian.de on Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 10:44:49AM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 10:44:49AM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake John Murphy (jfm@blueyonder.co.uk): > > > The latter two seem more acronymy than the first... (I used to say Lie Nux!) > > "Lie Nux" is correct. > 'fraid not. It's "Linn ucks". Linus, after whom it is named, is only pronounced "Line-uss" by English speakers (Charlie Brown and Peanuts etc.). As a Scandnavian Torvalds pronounces his name "Lean-uss". ftp://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/pub/mark/linux.wav is LT saying it for us. Sorry but I've only got a .WAV > Alex > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 10:32:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (kawoserv.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.180.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C69D37B40A; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:32:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (root@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.181.148]) by kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29639; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:32:35 +0200 Received: (from alex@localhost) by fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7HHWfE41571; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:32:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:32:40 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Mark Ovens Cc: John Murphy , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Message-ID: <20010817193240.A41560@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20010817104449.B39559@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> <20010817182805.A275@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010817182805.A275@parish>; from marko@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 06:28:05PM +0100 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Mark Ovens (marko@FreeBSD.ORG): > > > The latter two seem more acronymy than the first... (I used to say Lie Nux!) > > "Lie Nux" is correct. > 'fraid not. It's "Linn ucks". Linus, after whom it is named, is only Oh, "Lie" as in "to lie"? That's of course wrong, and "Linn" is correct. I thought he pronounces "Lie" liek the "Li" in "Linn". Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 10:32:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BB437B401; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:32:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ntlworld.com) Received: from parish ([62.253.85.106]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010817173252.DRGW29790.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:32:52 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f7HHWxQ01146; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:32:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:32:59 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Nik Clayton Cc: John Murphy , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Message-ID: <20010817183259.B275@parish> References: <20010817091230.A59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010817091230.A59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 09:12:30AM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 09:12:30AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 01:16:13AM +0100, John Murphy wrote: > > I am impressed. It is a good way to write a book :) > > > > However: I'm stuck on the tag. I first saw it around IDE, > > then found it not around BIOS or SCSI etc. 'twould seem to me that > > these, and more, are unequivocal throughout the Manual and could, > > therefore, be treated as part of the final process. Else I could easily > > acronymize (sorry), the occurrences I find. > > > > I think i'm confused, because i tend to say I de E, buyos, skuzy. The > > latter two seem more acronymy than the first... (I used to say Lie > > Nux!) > > An acronym is anything formed from (typically the initial) letters from > a phrase. ...that forms a word (either real or contrived), so BIOS and SCSI are acronyms, but IDE isn't (unless you pronounce it "eyed"), and neither is PCI, IBM, etc. c.f. OED acronym. /'aekranim/ n. word made from initial letters of other words. > So BIOS, SCSI, RAID, and IDE are all acronyms. An > abbreviation is a shortened form of a word. > > > Abbreviation tag anyone? > > There is an element. . . > > As to whether we use the elements or not -- there's no "formal" policy on > this. My personal opinion is that we have, through general usage, evolved > a core set of elements that we use in the documentation -- things like > , , , the &man.foo.x; entities, and so on. > If a document is submitted that doesn't use these elements where appropriate > then I'd try to add it to the mark up before committing it. > > Then there are "non-core" elements. and fall in to > this category. They are nice to have, but it's not a showstopper if > they're not used when they should be. But they do add to the value in > the text (because then we can produce tables of acronyms, allowing > readers to see where acronyms like "IDE" are used in the text), so if > you, or anyone else, wants to tighten up the mark up in text that you're > looking at then you should feel free to do so. > > N > -- > FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ > FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ > > --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 10:45:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC6937B401 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ntlworld.com) Received: from parish ([62.253.85.106]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010817174534.GYBR710.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:45:34 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f7HHjgI01260; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:45:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:45:42 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Alexander Langer Cc: John Murphy , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Message-ID: <20010817184542.C275@parish> References: <20010817104449.B39559@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> <20010817182805.A275@parish> <20010817193240.A41560@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010817193240.A41560@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de>; from alex@big.endian.de on Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 07:32:40PM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 07:32:40PM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake Mark Ovens (marko@FreeBSD.ORG): > > > > > The latter two seem more acronymy than the first... (I used to say > > > > Lie Nux!) > > > "Lie Nux" is correct. > > 'fraid not. It's "Linn ucks". Linus, after whom it is named, is only > > Oh, "Lie" as in "to lie"? > That's of course wrong, and "Linn" is correct. Oops, yes of course, "Lie" would be pronounced differently in German then English. Like "Die" as in Die Fledermaus (sp?) yes? > I thought he pronounces "Lie" liek the "Li" in "Linn". > I'd agree, it just sounds more like "Lee" to my ear. I did once suggest that we (FreeBSD) have our own version of the Linus sound file I referred to: My name is Jordan Hubbard and I pronounce "Linux" as "FreeBSD" > Alex > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 10:50: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (kawoserv.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.180.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7A337B403; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:49:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (root@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.181.148]) by kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA30277; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:49:56 +0200 Received: (from alex@localhost) by fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7HHo2l41680; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:50:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:50:01 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Mark Ovens Cc: John Murphy , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Message-ID: <20010817195001.A41656@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20010817104449.B39559@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> <20010817182805.A275@parish> <20010817193240.A41560@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> <20010817184542.C275@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010817184542.C275@parish>; from marko@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 06:45:42PM +0100 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Mark Ovens (marko@FreeBSD.ORG): > > Oh, "Lie" as in "to lie"? > > That's of course wrong, and "Linn" is correct. > Oops, yes of course, "Lie" would be pronounced differently in German then > English. Like "Die" as in Die Fledermaus (sp?) yes? Yes, exactly. > > I thought he pronounces "Lie" liek the "Li" in "Linn". > I'd agree, it just sounds more like "Lee" to my ear. "Lee" is nice. > My name is Jordan Hubbard and I pronounce "Linux" as "FreeBSD" Hehe. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 11:51:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F90C37B411 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:51:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7HITVf80506; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:29:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:29:31 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Martin Horcicka Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New XML/XSL pages problems Message-ID: <20010817192931.J59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010817175056.S12522-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AXxEqdD4tcVTjWte" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010817175056.S12522-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz>; from horcicka@FreeBSD.cz on Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 06:26:46PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --AXxEqdD4tcVTjWte Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 06:26:46PM +0200, Martin Horcicka wrote: > while translating new pages to Czech I've found the following problems and > suggestions: >=20 > - www/en/index.html depends on www/en/news/press.xml but there is no such > dependency in the www/en/Makefile. Fixed. Thanks for the info. > - "make clean" and "Last modified" hack do not affect HTML files generated > from XML/XSL. Yeah. I'm not wholly clear yet on exactly what the .mk infrastructure for the XML files will look like. I'm wary of extrapolating the current method that I've hardcoded in to a few files. Once there are a few more XML data sources in the www/ tree (I'm thinking specifically of the vendors section) I (or someone else) can take a step back and see what needs to be made generic infrastructure, and what needs to be handled on a per-file basis. > - I don't like the tidy's error message: > >>Can't open "/home/horcicka/.tidyrc"<<. What about to change the > "-f /dev/null" to "2> /dev/null" at the end? I think, the effect is almos= t the > same except the error message above. Can do. > - What about to remove the old SGML sources replaced by the XML/XSL ones? Which ones have I missed? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --AXxEqdD4tcVTjWte Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt9YooACgkQk6gHZCw343Xb6ACglfFjBEjQf9s/I5RdSC3sEKc1 rB4Ani7rm8sHyWuFFUp3Jx8j2Rgo8lvg =uQ7e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AXxEqdD4tcVTjWte-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 11:51:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02A337B409; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:51:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7HIaZj80533; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:36:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:36:35 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Mark Ovens Cc: Nik Clayton , John Murphy , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Message-ID: <20010817193635.K59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010817091230.A59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010817183259.B275@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRokNccIwvMzawGl" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010817183259.B275@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 06:32:59PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --wRokNccIwvMzawGl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 06:32:59PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > An acronym is anything formed from (typically the initial) letters from > > a phrase. =20 > =09 > ...that forms a word (either real or contrived), so BIOS and SCSI are > acronyms, but IDE isn't (unless you pronounce it "eyed"), and neither is > PCI, IBM, etc. What're things like "IDE" referred to then? FWIW, the DocBook definition says - An *often* pronounceable word made from the initial (or selected) letters of a name or phrase My emphasis. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --wRokNccIwvMzawGl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt9ZAAACgkQk6gHZCw343WoUACeL/mDsl8h78ZD7x1H4UgZKbyD oZkAmwXNT4/JNjk/Vk97fSI0XoN9a7i3 =jn7b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRokNccIwvMzawGl-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 12:40:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (www.freebsd.cz [195.113.19.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71A037B403; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:40:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from horcicka@FreeBSD.cz) Received: from localhost (horcicka@localhost) by dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f7HJem917463; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 21:40:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from horcicka@FreeBSD.cz) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 21:40:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Horcicka X-X-Sender: To: Nik Clayton Cc: Subject: Re: New XML/XSL pages problems In-Reply-To: <20010817192931.J59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: <20010817212234.M16507-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton (2001-08-17 19:29 +0100): > > - What about to remove the old SGML sources replaced by the XML/XSL ones? > > Which ones have I missed? Oops, I see the www/en/index.sgml only - I thought there were some more. Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 13:20:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from compas-srv.inicia.es (compas-srv.inicia.es [212.14.96.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A6C37B403 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:20:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zafio@inicia.es) Received: from oceano ([212.14.122.165]) by compas-srv.inicia.es (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GI8B6I01.1U9 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 22:20:42 +0200 Message-ID: <000201c1275b$0de58f60$0100a8c0@oceano> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Javier_Rold=E1n?= To: Subject: Manual de FreeBSD Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 22:26:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1276B.B4AAA230" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1276B.B4AAA230 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C1276B.B4AF3610" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C1276B.B4AF3610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sirs, I write because I would like to download the HTML version of the = handbook in Spanish, but the link up in the following page fails: http://www.es.freebsd.org/es/doc-es/handbook/ Thank you, and I wait for your reply. 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Yours sincerely,
 
       =20 Javier
------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C1276B.B4AF3610-- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1276B.B4AAA230 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Manual de FreeBSD.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Manual de FreeBSD.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://www.es.freebsd.org/es/doc-es/handbook/ [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.es.freebsd.org/es/doc-es/handbook/ Modified=D0C0C64F5A27C101E8 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1276B.B4AAA230-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 14:30: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C0537B405 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7HLU3732516; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108172130.f7HLU3732516@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/29807: [PATCH] XFREE86_VERSION is undocumented Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29807; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Mike Meyer Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29807: [PATCH] XFREE86_VERSION is undocumented Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:27:20 -0700 Mike Meyer writes: > --- make.conf.5 Fri Aug 3 10:16:50 2001 > +++ /tmp/make.conf.5 Fri Aug 17 10:33:14 2001 > @@ -745,6 +745,12 @@ > Should be set to where the X11 distribution has been > installed if it is installed anywhere other than > .Pa /usr/X11R6 . > +.It Va XFREE86_VERSION > +.Pq Vt str > +Set this to 4 if you have are using XFree86 version 4 instead of > +XFree86 version 3. This should probably describe what it is, not just its possible values. Saying something like "set this to the major version of the preferred XFree86 release" would be better, methinks. After that, you can say that the default is 3 (for now). Also, please avoid using first- or second-person pronouns in manual pages or other documentation. > +.Pa XFree86-4 > +ports. What are these doing here? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 16:19:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow024o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BA937B40A for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:19:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx.my.domain ([62.31.194.122]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 18 Aug 2001 00:19:16 +0100 From: John Murphy To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: emailing GNATS Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 00:21:15 +0100 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: <986rnts92d8qsqh3ke114mn7rurri6r7o5@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for previous answers! Can I successfully create a pr by simply emailing = freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org with a subject line the same as the synopsis and with body as below? Ok, I admit I run sendmail not; so send-pr is unlikely to work. (I would use the web interface, only, there are tabs involved so the pr would be somewhat pointless. I wont ask about tabs :) = although...) ~~~~~~~~~~~~ body for the aforementioned email without the diff = ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: >Submitter-Id: current-users >Originator: John Murphy >Organization: >Confidential: no >Synopsis: Handbook Chapter 13 (Backups) minor changes >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Category: docs >Class: doc-bug >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Environment: >Description: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backups/chapter.sgml Removed XXX* and XXX =46ixed some minor typos etc. Changed tabs to spaces in Example 13-2. A Script for Creating a Bootable = =46loppy (should make it look better). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-programs= .html#AEN11921 >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Apply the following diff to: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backups/chapter.sgml --=20 John. Never ran Line uX. At least FreeBSD says exactly what it "is"! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 17:21:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-2.worldonline.es (pop3-2.worldonline.es [212.7.33.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A32337B408 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 17:21:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com) Received: from belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (tm0.worldonline.es [212.7.34.10]) by pop3-2.worldonline.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B1ED33A9; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 02:21:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wol209.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct (IDENT:jesus.rodriguez@wol209.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct [10.34.0.209]) by belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7I0LDE40134; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 02:21:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 02:47:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Jesus Rodriguez X-Sender: jesus.rodriguez@wol209.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Javier_Rold=E1n?= Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Manual de FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <000201c1275b$0de58f60$0100a8c0@oceano> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Javier Rold=E1n wrote: > Dear Sirs, >=20 > I write because I would like to download the HTML version of the handbook= in Spanish, but the link up in the following page fails: >=20 > http://www.es.freebsd.org/es/doc-es/handbook/ >=20 > Thank you, and I wait for your reply. Hello Javier, What you can see at that url is an old snapshot of the spanish handbook but there is not a tgz version. Please, contact me directly if you want a tgz with the last version. Saludos JesusR. ------------------------------------- Jes=FAs Rodr=EDguez IP Engineering & Security Manager Tiscali / World Online jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com http://www.worldonline.es Tel. + (34) 93-3930800 ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 18: 0: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198B737B40A for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:00:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7I105Q58331; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:00:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108180100.f7I105Q58331@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Murray Stokely Subject: Re: docs/29806: Handbook Chapter 12 (Disks) minor changes Reply-To: Murray Stokely Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29806; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Murray Stokely To: John Murphy Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29806: Handbook Chapter 12 (Disks) minor changes Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:04:16 -0700 On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 08:15:47AM -0700, John Murphy wrote: > Removed and elements where they were within . > Fixed some minor typos. Why is this undesirable? I think that we want proper markup inside of <title>s - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 19:51:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow025o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C205937B40F for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:51:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx.my.domain ([62.31.194.122]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 18 Aug 2001 03:51:26 +0100 From: John Murphy <jfm@blueyonder.co.uk> To: Murray Stokely <murray.stokely@windriver.com> Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29806: Handbook Chapter 12 (Disks) minor changes Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 03:53:23 +0100 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: <gokrntsee6lq6eiq249l7a3nc9tgvbk48c@4ax.com> References: <200108171515.f7HFFlv68942@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010817180416.D29065@windriver.com> In-Reply-To: <20010817180416.D29065@windriver.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: <freebsd-doc.FreeBSD.ORG> List-Archive: <http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/> (Web Archive) List-Help: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=help> (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=subscribe%20freebsd-doc> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=unsubscribe%20freebsd-doc> X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Murray Stokely <murray.stokely@windriver.com> wrote: >On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 08:15:47AM -0700, John Murphy wrote: >> Removed <filename> and <command> elements where they were within = <title>. >> Fixed some minor typos. > > Why is this undesirable? I think that we want proper markup inside >of <title>s I found most titles were without such elements, and I think they look = better that way. Just my own POV really. John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 20: 0:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2D037B413 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 20:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7I306072132; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 20:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from www-1.wr.usgs.gov (www-1.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B00437B61A for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:57:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@www-1.wr.usgs.gov) Received: (from root@localhost) by www-1.wr.usgs.gov (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7I2vTT45895; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:57:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200108180257.f7I2vTT45895@www-1.wr.usgs.gov> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:57:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Charlie & <root@www-1.wr.usgs.gov> Reply-To: Charlie & <root@www-1.wr.usgs.gov> To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29841: stilted language and incorrect punctuation Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: <freebsd-doc.FreeBSD.ORG> List-Archive: <http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/> (Web Archive) List-Help: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=help> (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=subscribe%20freebsd-doc> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=unsubscribe%20freebsd-doc> X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29841 >Category: docs >Synopsis: stilted language and incorrect punctuation >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 17 20:00:05 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Robert Sowders >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: USGS >Environment: System: FreeBSD www-1.wr.usgs.gov 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 12 01:06:31 PDT 2001 root@www-1.wr.usgs.gov:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WWW6 i386 >Description: Stilted language and poor grammer with incorrect punctuation. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- article.sgml.orig Fri Aug 17 13:40:05 2001 +++ article.sgml Fri Aug 17 14:56:16 2001 @@ -39,23 +39,22 @@ <para>Dialup Firewalling with FreeBSD</para> - <para>This document aims to cover the process that is required in - order to setup firewalling with FreeBSD when are dynamically - assigned an IP address by your ISP. While every effort has been - made to make this document as informative and correct as possible, - you are welcome to mail your comments/suggestions to the - <email>marcs@draenor.org</email>.</para> + <para>This document covers the process that is required to setup + firewalling with FreeBSD when an IP address is assigned dynamically + by your ISP. While every effort has been made to make this document + as informative and correct as possible, you are welcome to mail your + comments/suggestions to the <email>marcs@draenor.org</email>.</para> </sect1> <sect1 id="kernel"> <title>Kernel Options - The first thing you'll need to do is recompile your kernel in - FreeBSD. If you need more information on how to recompile the kernel, + The first thing you'll need to do is recompile your kernel. + If you need more information on how to recompile the kernel, then the best place to start is the kernel - configuration section in the Handbook. You need to compile the - following options into the kernel: + configuration section in the Handbook. You need to add the + following options into your kernel config: @@ -80,7 +79,7 @@ Limits the number of times a matching entry is logged. This - stops your log files filling up with lots of repetitive entries. + prevents your log file from filling up with lots of repetitive entries. 100 is a reasonable number to use, but you can adjust it based on your requirements. @@ -96,7 +95,7 @@ - There are also some other OPTIONAL items that you can compile + There are some other OPTIONAL items that you can compile into the kernel for some added security. These are not required in order to get firewalling to work, but some more paranoid users may want to use them. @@ -115,8 +114,8 @@ - Don't reboot once you have recompiled the kernel. Hopefully, we will - need to reboot just once in order to complete the installing of the + Don't reboot once you have recompiled the kernel. Hopefully, + we will only need to reboot once to complete the installation of the firewall. @@ -126,7 +125,7 @@ We now need to make some changes to /etc/rc.conf in order to tell it about the - firewall. Simply add the following lines: + firewall. Simply add the following lines: firewall_enable="YES" firewall_script="/etc/firewall/fwrules" @@ -134,8 +133,8 @@ natd_interface="tun0" natd_flags="-dynamic" - For more information on what the above do take a look at - /etc/defaults/rc.conf and read + For more information on the functions of these statements take + a look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf and read &man.rc.conf.5; @@ -143,11 +142,11 @@ Disable PPP's network address translation You may already be using PPP's built in network address - translation (NAT). If that is the case you will have to disable it, - as these examples use &man.natd.8; to do the same. + translation (NAT). If that is the case then you will have to disable + it, as these examples use &man.natd.8; to do the same. If you already have a block of entries to - automatically start PPP it probably looks like this: + automatically start PPP, it probably looks like this: ppp_enable="YES" ppp_mode="auto" @@ -163,26 +162,26 @@ The ruleset for the firewall - We're nearly done now. All that remains now is to define the + We're nearly done now. All that remains now is to define the firewall rules and then we can reboot and the firewall should be up and - running. I realize that everyone will want something slightly different - when it comes to their rulebase. What I've tried to do is write a - rulebase that suits most dialup users. You can obviously modify it to - your needs by simply using the following rules as the foundation for + running. I realize that everyone will want something slightly different + when it comes to their rulebase. What I've tried to do is write a + rulebase that suits most dialup users. You can obviously modify it to + your needs by using the following rules as the foundation for your own rulebase. First, let's start with the basics of closed - firewalling. What you want to do is deny everything by default and then - only open up for the things you really need. Rules should be in the - order of allow first and then deny. The premise is that you add the - rules for your allows, and then everything else is denied. :) + firewalling. What you want to do is deny everything by default and then + only open up for the things you really need. Rules should be in the + order of allow first and then deny. The premise is that you add the + rules for your allows, and then everything else is denied. :) Now, let's make the dir /etc/firewall. Change into the directory and edit the file fwrules as we specified in - rc.conf. Please note that you can change this - filename to be anything you wish. This guide just gives an example of a + rc.conf. Please note that you can change this + filename to anything you wish. This guide just gives an example of a filename. - Now, let's look at a sample firewall file, and we'll detail - everything in it. + Now, let's look at a sample firewall file, that is commented nicely. + # Firewall rules # Written by Marc Silver (marcs@draenor.org) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 20:10:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F1837B412 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 20:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7I3A1I75846; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 20:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from www-1.wr.usgs.gov (www-1.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BC337B409 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 20:07:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@www-1.wr.usgs.gov) Received: (from root@localhost) by www-1.wr.usgs.gov (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7I37sq46025; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 20:07:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200108180307.f7I37sq46025@www-1.wr.usgs.gov> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 20:07:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "rsowders@usgs.gov" Reply-To: "rsowders@usgs.gov" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29842: Stilted language and improper puncuation in Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD article Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29842 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Stilted language and improper puncuation in Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD article >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 17 20:10:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Robert Sowders >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: United States Geological Survey >Environment: System: FreeBSD www-1.wr.usgs.gov 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 12 01:06:31 PDT 2001 root@www-1.wr.usgs.gov:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WWW6 i386 >Description: The article Dialup Firewalling with FreeBSD contains some stilted language, poor grammer, and a few punctuation errors. Nothing too glaring, but thought I would submit this fix anyway. Unified diff follows. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- article.sgml.orig Fri Aug 17 13:40:05 2001 +++ article.sgml Fri Aug 17 14:56:16 2001 @@ -39,23 +39,22 @@ Dialup Firewalling with FreeBSD - This document aims to cover the process that is required in - order to setup firewalling with FreeBSD when are dynamically - assigned an IP address by your ISP. While every effort has been - made to make this document as informative and correct as possible, - you are welcome to mail your comments/suggestions to the - marcs@draenor.org. + This document covers the process that is required to setup + firewalling with FreeBSD when an IP address is assigned dynamically + by your ISP. While every effort has been made to make this document + as informative and correct as possible, you are welcome to mail your + comments/suggestions to the marcs@draenor.org. Kernel Options - The first thing you'll need to do is recompile your kernel in - FreeBSD. If you need more information on how to recompile the kernel, + The first thing you'll need to do is recompile your kernel. + If you need more information on how to recompile the kernel, then the best place to start is the kernel - configuration section in the Handbook. You need to compile the - following options into the kernel: + configuration section in the Handbook. You need to add the + following options into your kernel config: @@ -80,7 +79,7 @@ Limits the number of times a matching entry is logged. This - stops your log files filling up with lots of repetitive entries. + prevents your log file from filling up with lots of repetitive entries. 100 is a reasonable number to use, but you can adjust it based on your requirements. @@ -96,7 +95,7 @@ - There are also some other OPTIONAL items that you can compile + There are some other OPTIONAL items that you can compile into the kernel for some added security. These are not required in order to get firewalling to work, but some more paranoid users may want to use them. @@ -115,8 +114,8 @@ - Don't reboot once you have recompiled the kernel. Hopefully, we will - need to reboot just once in order to complete the installing of the + Don't reboot once you have recompiled the kernel. Hopefully, + we will only need to reboot once to complete the installation of the firewall. @@ -126,7 +125,7 @@ We now need to make some changes to /etc/rc.conf in order to tell it about the - firewall. Simply add the following lines: + firewall. Simply add the following lines: firewall_enable="YES" firewall_script="/etc/firewall/fwrules" @@ -134,8 +133,8 @@ natd_interface="tun0" natd_flags="-dynamic" - For more information on what the above do take a look at - /etc/defaults/rc.conf and read + For more information on the functions of these statements take + a look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf and read &man.rc.conf.5; @@ -143,11 +142,11 @@ Disable PPP's network address translation You may already be using PPP's built in network address - translation (NAT). If that is the case you will have to disable it, - as these examples use &man.natd.8; to do the same. + translation (NAT). If that is the case then you will have to disable + it, as these examples use &man.natd.8; to do the same. If you already have a block of entries to - automatically start PPP it probably looks like this: + automatically start PPP, it probably looks like this: ppp_enable="YES" ppp_mode="auto" @@ -163,26 +162,26 @@ The ruleset for the firewall - We're nearly done now. All that remains now is to define the + We're nearly done now. All that remains now is to define the firewall rules and then we can reboot and the firewall should be up and - running. I realize that everyone will want something slightly different - when it comes to their rulebase. What I've tried to do is write a - rulebase that suits most dialup users. You can obviously modify it to - your needs by simply using the following rules as the foundation for + running. I realize that everyone will want something slightly different + when it comes to their rulebase. What I've tried to do is write a + rulebase that suits most dialup users. You can obviously modify it to + your needs by using the following rules as the foundation for your own rulebase. First, let's start with the basics of closed - firewalling. What you want to do is deny everything by default and then - only open up for the things you really need. Rules should be in the - order of allow first and then deny. The premise is that you add the - rules for your allows, and then everything else is denied. :) + firewalling. What you want to do is deny everything by default and then + only open up for the things you really need. Rules should be in the + order of allow first and then deny. The premise is that you add the + rules for your allows, and then everything else is denied. :) Now, let's make the dir /etc/firewall. Change into the directory and edit the file fwrules as we specified in - rc.conf. Please note that you can change this - filename to be anything you wish. This guide just gives an example of a + rc.conf. Please note that you can change this + filename to anything you wish. This guide just gives an example of a filename. - Now, let's look at a sample firewall file, and we'll detail - everything in it. + Now, let's look at a sample firewall file, that is commented nicely. + # Firewall rules # Written by Marc Silver (marcs@draenor.org) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 17 20:53:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10A337B413 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 20:53:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f7I3rTr10886; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 20:53:29 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 20:53:29 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: John Murphy Cc: Murray Stokely , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/29806: Handbook Chapter 12 (Disks) minor changes Message-ID: <20010817205329.A10673@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <200108171515.f7HFFlv68942@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010817180416.D29065@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk on Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 03:53:23AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 03:53:23AM +0100, John Murphy wrote: > I found most titles were without such elements, and I think they look bet= ter > that way. Just my own POV really. That's a style sheet problem not a markup problem. It's entierly logical to have the rendering of an element vary in a context dependent way. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7fea5XY6L6fI4GtQRAicxAKDg75qSCOQjWQKUNJ3e1BGCNc4YfACgy2if qqGIXkttY27LWo98iuxDxsI= =EkyQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 4:10:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DDD37B40B for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 04:10:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7IBA7G50674; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 04:10:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 04:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108181110.f7IBA7G50674@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Salvo Bartolotta Subject: Re: docs/29842: Stilted language and improper puncuation in Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD article Reply-To: Salvo Bartolotta Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29842; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Salvo Bartolotta To: "rsowders@usgs.gov" Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29842: Stilted language and improper puncuation in Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD article Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:06:46 +0200 (CEST) >Number: 29842 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Stilted language and improper puncuation in Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD article >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 17 20:10:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Robert Sowders >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: United States Geological Survey >Environment: System: FreeBSD www-1.wr.usgs.gov 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 12 01:06:31 PDT 2001 root@www-1.wr.usgs.gov:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WWW6 i386 >Description: The article Dialup Firewalling with FreeBSD contains some stilted language, poor grammer, and a few punctuation errors. Nothing too glaring, but thought I would submit this fix anyway. Unified diff follows. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: - Now, let's look at a sample firewall file, and we'll detail - everything in it. + Now, let's look at a sample firewall file, that is commented nicely. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ + Since "that" as a relative pronoun is used in *defining* relative clauses, I am missing the intended sense of the sentence. AFAICS: 1) Either "that" is a demonstrative pronoun (this, that; these, those); 2) Or you mean "[...] a sample firewall file that is commented nicely" (N.B. NO comma). If interpretation 1) holds, I am not quite sure whether the sentence is fully correct; if 2) holds, the [resulting] sentence sounds a little curious to me (or is it just me?:-)) I was thinking about something like "[...] a nicely and extensively commented sample firewall", thus removing the secondary clause. Another possibility might be "[...] a sample firewall. Each rule in this example is nicely [and extensively] commented." Or am I simply missing something? -- Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 4:39:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4220937B413; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 04:39:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f7IBddm81176 ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:39:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id NAA77299 ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:39:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:39:38 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Nik Clayton Cc: Mark Ovens , John Murphy , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Message-ID: <20010818133938.A77024@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20010817091230.A59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010817183259.B275@parish> <20010817193635.K59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010817193635.K59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 07:36:35PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton said on Aug 17, 2001 at 19:36:35: > On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 06:32:59PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > > An acronym is anything formed from (typically the initial) letters from > > > a phrase. > > > > ...that forms a word (either real or contrived), so BIOS and SCSI are > > acronyms, but IDE isn't (unless you pronounce it "eyed"), and neither is > > PCI, IBM, etc. > > What're things like "IDE" referred to then? > > FWIW, the DocBook definition says > > - An *often* pronounceable word made from the initial (or > selected) letters of a name or phrase My understanding was that an "acronym" is a *word* (like laser, basic (the language), etc) made from initial letters of other words. "Fortran" would also qualify, I think. IDE, and probably BIOS (being all caps) would be abbreviations, like BBC and CNN. I don't have a dictionary handy so I can't verify it... Acronyms are also abbreviations, of course, so "abbreviation" should always be accurate, if longer. R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 5: 2:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from eriador.esperi.net (eriador.esperi.net [194.216.214.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBC237B40E for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 05:02:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicolai@esperi.org) Received: from nicolai by eriador.esperi.net with local (Exim) id 15Y4o5-0009zS-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:02:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15230.22865.55369.795358@eriador.esperi.net> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:02:25 +0100 From: Nicolai E M Plum To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: broken link on http://www.freebsd.org/news/press.html X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under Emacs 20.6.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi The web page http://www.freebsd.org/news/press.html has a link to http://public.wsj.com/news/hmc/sb992819157437237260.htm titled "Microsoft Uses Open-Source Code Despite Denying Use of Such Software". However the WSJ doesn't have that page... Nicolai To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 5:21:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D3337B40B; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 05:21:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@neomedia.it) Received: (from httpd@localhost) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7ICLYK30947; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:21:34 +0200 (CEST) To: Rahul Siddharthan Subject: Re: Message-ID: <998137293.3b7e5dce03208@webmail.neomedia.it> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:21:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: Nik Clayton , Mark Ovens , John Murphy , doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4-cvs X-WebMail-Company: Neomedia s.a.s. X-Originating-IP: 62.98.163.170 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > My understanding was that an "acronym" is a *word* (like laser, basic > (the language), etc) made from initial letters of other words. > "Fortran" would also qualify, I think. IDE, and probably BIOS (being > all caps) would be abbreviations, like BBC and CNN. I don't have a > dictionary handy so I can't verify it... Acronyms are also > abbreviations, of course, so "abbreviation" should always be accurate, > if longer. Essentially correct. My Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary spits out: acronym, n, word formed from the initial letters of a group of words, eg UNESCO, ie United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization. My New Oxford Dictionary of English (Pearsall 1998) spits out virtually the same definition. BTW, the word comes from Greek (acron ~ end, tip; onyma ~ name) and first appears in the 1940s. -- Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 6:35: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rbn-gw.bgtu.debryansk.ru (rbn-gw.bgtu.debryansk.ru [62.76.89.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6B837B403; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 06:34:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kapr@acm.org) Received: from server.bitmcnit.bryansk.su (root@bitmcnit.bryansk.su [192.168.121.2]) by rbn-gw.bgtu.debryansk.ru (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7IDV4S11104; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 17:31:04 +0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.bitmcnit.bryansk.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id RAA09436; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 17:26:22 +0400 Received: (from alex@localhost) by kapran.bitmcnit.bryansk.su (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7IDUeA03931; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 17:30:40 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from kapr@acm.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kapran.bitmcnit.bryansk.su: alex set sender to kapr@acm.org using -f Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 17:30:38 +0400 From: Alex Kapranoff To: bmah@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: A patch for RELNOTESng/relnotes/common/new.sgml Message-ID: <20010818173037.A3775@kapran.bitmcnit.bryansk.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Organization: Inner Mongolia Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good day, Bruce! There's a patch for relnotes I came up with while translating the document. Some hunks are just typos fixed, and some are arguable (e.g. FreeBSD => &os;). Please review and commit the bits you feel necessary. None of the changes are critical :) Thanks! The diff is against revision 1.101. I have some content diffs as well and will send them to you in a seperate mail later. --- base_new.sgml Sat Aug 18 10:41:38 2001 +++ new.sgml Sat Aug 18 17:03:57 2001 @@ -36,13 +36,13 @@ The &man.kqueue.2; event notification facility was added to the &os; kernel. This is a new interface which is able to - replace &man.poll.2;/&man.select.2, offering improved performance, + replace &man.poll.2;/&man.select.2;, offering improved performance, as well as the ability to report many different types of events. Support for monitoring changes in sockets, pipes, fifos, and files are present, as well as for signals and processes. &merged; Support for Intel's Wired for Management 2.0 (PXE) - was added to the FreeBSD boot loader. Due to API differences, the + was added to the &os; boot loader. Due to API differences, the older PXE versions are not supported. This allow network booting using DHCP. &merged; @@ -130,10 +130,10 @@ vendor/device database, which can be used by &man.pciconf.8;. - The &man.spic.4; driver, which provides access to the job + The &man.spic.4; driver, which provides access to the jog dial device on some Sony laptops, has been added. - PECOFF (WIN32 Execution file format) support has been + PECOFF (Win32 Execution file format) support has been added. A VESA S3 linear framebuffer driver has been added. @@ -157,7 +157,7 @@ mass-storage devices. Entropy from the &man.random.4; device is now periodically saved to files in /var/db/entropy, as well as at - &man.shutdown.8; time. + shutdown time. The &man.syscons.4; driver now supports keyboard-controlled pasting, by default bound to @@ -177,7 +177,7 @@ some of the per-CPU data. A new digi driver has been added to support PCI Xr-based and ISA - Xem Digiboard cards. A new digictl program is (mainly) used to + Xem Digiboard cards. A new &man.digictl.8; program is (mainly) used to re-initialise cards that have external port modules attached such as the PC/Xem. @@ -247,12 +247,12 @@ Support for the 80386 processor has been removed from the GENERIC kernel, as this - code seriously pessimizes performance on other ia32 + code seriously pessimizes performance on other IA32 processors. The I386_CPU kernel option to support the 80386 processor is now mutually exclusive with - support for other ia32 processors; this should slightly improve + support for other IA32 processors; this should slightly improve performance on the 80386 due to the elimination of runtime processor type checks. @@ -280,10 +280,10 @@ Kernel code has been added that allows older generation Alpha CPUs (EV4 and EV5) to emulate instructions of the newer Alpha CPU - generations. This enables the use of binary-only programs like Adobe - Acrobat 4 on EV4 and EV5. + generations. This enables the use of binary-only programs like Adobe + Acrobat 4 on EV4 and EV5. - SMP support for the alpha is now operational. + SMP support for the Alpha is now operational. Detection for new processors, such as the FC-PGA2 Pentium III (Tualatin), Transmeta Crusoe, and Transmeta @@ -327,7 +327,7 @@ supported by the &man.lnc.4; driver, the &man.pcn.4; driver runs these chips in 32-bit mode and uses the RX alignment feature to achieve zero-copy receive. This driver is also - machine-independent, so it will work on both the i386 and alpha + machine-independent, so it will work on both the i386 and Alpha platforms. The &man.lnc.4; driver is still needed to support non-PCI cards. &merged; @@ -410,7 +410,7 @@ has been added. &merged; The &man.ng.mppc.4; and &man.ng.bridge.4; node types have - been added to the netgraph subsystem. The &man.ng.ether.4; node + been added to the &man.netgraph.4; subsystem. The &man.ng.ether.4; node is now dynamically loadable. Miscellaneous bug fixes and enhancements have also been made. &merged; @@ -490,7 +490,7 @@ flags, to be used in creating proxy-only published entries. - &man.ipfw.8; now filters correctly in the presence of ECN bits in TCP + &man.ipfw.4; now filters correctly in the presence of ECN bits in TCP segments. &merged; &man.ipfw.8; will now avoid the display of dynamic @@ -535,7 +535,7 @@ configure-time options. &merged; The &man.ata.4; driver now has support for tagged queuing, - which is enabled by the hw.ata.tags loader + which is enabled by the hw.ata.tags loader tunable. &merged; The &man.ata.4; driver now has support for ATA @@ -704,7 +704,7 @@ replace an older, unified driver. A driver for the CMedia CMI8338/CMI8738 sound chips has been added. A driver for the CS4281 sound chip has been added. A driver for the S3 - Sonicvobes chipset has been added. &merged; + Sonicvibes chipset has been added. &merged; A driver for the Advance Logic ALS4000 has been added. &merged; @@ -933,7 +933,7 @@ certain malformed packets, has been corrected (see security advisory FreeBSD-SA-01:29). &merged; - A security hole in FreeBSD's FFS and EXT2FS implementations, + A security hole in &os;'s FFS and EXT2FS implementations, which allowed a race condition that could cause users to have unauthorized access to data, has been fixed (see security advisory FreeBSD-SA-01:30). &merged; @@ -1064,7 +1064,7 @@ .pubkey file. nsswitch support has been merged from NetBSD. By creating - an &man.nsswitch.conf.5; file, FreeBSD can be configured so that + an &man.nsswitch.conf.5; file, &os; can be configured so that various databases such as &man.passwd.5; and &man.group.5; can be looked up using flat files, NIS, or Hesiod. The old hosts.conf file is no longer used. @@ -1120,7 +1120,7 @@ modifiers. These were added to reduce the differences between the &os; and OpenBSD/NetBSD - &man.make.1 programs. &merged; + &man.make.1; programs. &merged; Bugs in &man.make.1;, among which include broken null suffix behavior, bad assumptions about current directory permissions, and @@ -1238,7 +1238,7 @@ thanks to some new dialog support functions. &merged; The default root partition in &man.sysinstall.8; is now - 100MB on the i386 and 120MB on the alpha. + 100MB on the i386 and 120MB on the Alpha. Shortly after the receipt of a SIGINFO signal (normally control-T from the controlling tty), &man.fsck.ffs.8; @@ -1352,7 +1352,7 @@ specified number of tracks while playing an audio CD. &merged; &man.sysctl.8; now supports a option to - print out variable names only. &merged + print out variable names only. &merged; &man.sysctl.8; has replaced the and options with and @@ -2018,7 +2018,7 @@ new-style version numbers. &merged; To improve performance and disk utilization, the ports - skeletons in the FreeBSD Ports Collection have been restructured. + skeletons in the &os; Ports Collection have been restructured. Installed ports and packages should not be affected. &merged; All packages and ports now contain an origin -- Alex Kapranoff, Voice: +7(0832)791845 We've lived 229 days in the brand new millenium... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 8:40:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB7737B414 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 08:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7IFe1r89486; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 08:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow028o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C883337B410 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 08:37:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx.my.domain ([62.31.194.122]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 18 Aug 2001 16:37:23 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 16:39:28 +0100 From: John Murphy Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/29848: Handbook Chapter 13 (Backups) minor changes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29848 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook Chapter 13 (Backups) minor changes >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Aug 18 08:40:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: John Murphy >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backups/chapter.sgml Removed XXX* and XXX =46ixed some minor typos etc. Changed tabs to spaces in Example 13-2. A Script for Creating a Bootable = =46loppy (should make it look better). >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Apply the following diff to: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backups/chapter.sgml Revision 1.42 --- chapter Fri Aug 17 21:48:26 2001 +++ chapter.patched Fri Aug 17 21:48:29 2001 @@ -132,7 +132,7 @@ =20 - XXX* Mini-Cartridge + Mini-Cartridge =20 @@ -186,7 +186,7 @@ the several minutes that would be required for other tapes. Software such as SAMS:Alexandria can operate forty or more AIT tape libraries, communicating directly with the tape's memory chip to display the - contents on screen, determine what files where backed up to which + contents on screen, determine what files were backed up to which tape, locate the correct tape, load it, and restore the data from the tape. =20 @@ -323,7 +323,7 @@ =20 &prompt.root; tar cf - . | rsh = hostname dd = of=3Dtape-device = obs=3D20b =20 - If you are worried about the security of backing over a = network + If you are worried about the security of backing up over a = network you should use the &man.ssh.1; command instead of &man.rsh.1;. =20 @@ -336,7 +336,7 @@ =20 &man.cpio.1; is the original Unix file interchange tape = program for magnetic media. &man.cpio.1; has options (among many others) to - perform byte-swapping, write a number of different archives format, + perform byte-swapping, write a number of different archive formats, and pipe the data to other programs. This last feature makes &man.cpio.1; and excellent choice for installation media. &man.cpio.1; does not know how to walk the directory tree and a list @@ -393,9 +393,9 @@ rather than a single program. An Amanda server will backup to a single tape drive any number of computers that have Amanda clients and a network connection to the Amanda server. A - common problem at locations with a number of large disks is - the length of time required to backup to data directly to tape - exceeds the amount of time available for the task. Amanda + common problem, at locations with a number of large disks, is + that the length of time required to backup the data directly to + tape exceeds the amount of time available for the task. Amanda solves this problem. Amanda can use a "holding disk" to backup several filesystems at the same time. Amanda creates "archive sets": a group of tapes used over a period of time to @@ -405,7 +405,7 @@ Restoring a damaged filesystem requires the most recent full backup and the incremental backups. =20 - The configuration file provides fine control backups and the + The configuration file provides fine control of backups and = the network traffic that Amanda generates. Amanda will use any of the above backup programs to write the data to tape. Amanda is available as either a port or a package, it is not installed by default. @@ -445,7 +445,7 @@ choice for preserving all your data and all the peculiarities of Unix filesystems is &man.dump.8;. Elizabeth created filesystems containing a large variety of unusual conditions (and some not so unusual ones) - and tested each program by doing a backup and restore of that + and tested each program by doing a backup and restore of those filesystems. The peculiarities included: files with holes, files with holes and a block of nulls, files with funny characters in their names, unreadable and unwritable files, devices, files that change @@ -483,7 +483,7 @@ step three. =20 Otherwise, you have to create two custom bootable - floppies which has a kernel that can mount all of your disks + floppies which have a kernel that can mount all of your disks and access your tape drive. These floppies must contain: &man.fdisk.8;, &man.disklabel.8;, &man.newfs.8;, &man.mount.8;, and whichever backup program you use. These @@ -565,44 +565,44 @@ The MINI kernel does not exist, please create one. Here is an example config file: # -# MINI -- A kernel to get FreeBSD on onto a disk. +# MINI -- A kernel to get FreeBSD onto a disk. # -machine "i386" -cpu "I486_CPU" -ident MINI -maxusers 5 +machine "i386" +cpu "I486_CPU" +ident MINI +maxusers 5 =20 -options INET # needed for _tcp _icmpstat _ipstat - # _udpstat _tcpstat _udb -options FFS #Berkeley Fast File System -options FAT_CURSOR #block cursor in syscons or pccons -options SCSI_DELAY=3D15 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device -options NCONS=3D2 #1 virtual consoles -options USERCONFIG #Allow user configuration with -c XXX +options INET # needed for _tcp _icmpstat = _ipstat + # _udpstat _tcpstat = _udb +options FFS #Berkeley Fast File System +options FAT_CURSOR #block cursor in syscons or = pccons +options SCSI_DELAY=3D15 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI= device +options NCONS=3D2 #1 virtual consoles +options USERCONFIG #Allow user configuration with = -c =20 -config kernel root on da0 swap on da0 and da1 dumps on da0 +config kernel root on da0 swap on da0 and da1 dumps on da0 =20 -controller isa0 -controller pci0 +controller isa0 +controller pci0 =20 -controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr -disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 +controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector = fdintr +disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 =20 -controller ncr0 +controller ncr0 =20 -controller scbus0 +controller scbus0 =20 -device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr -device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr +device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr +device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr =20 -device da0 -device da1 -device da2 +device da0 +device da1 +device da2 =20 -device sa0 +device sa0 =20 -pseudo-device loop # required by INET -pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's +pseudo-device loop # required by INET +pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's EOM exit 1 fi @@ -644,7 +644,7 @@ # create minimum filesystem table # cat > /mnt/etc/fstab <However, if you have no other method of backing up your data= then floppy disks are better than no backup at all. =20 - If you do have to use floppy disks then ensure that you use = good - quality ones. Floppies that have been lying around the office for a - couple of years are a bad choice. Ideally use new ones from a - reputable manufacturer. + If you do have to use floppy disks then= ensure + that you use good quality ones. Floppies that have been lying = around + the office for a couple of years are a bad choice. Ideally use = new ones + from a reputable manufacturer. =20 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 9:36:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from saxa.georgetown.edu (saxa.georgetown.edu [141.161.20.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C3A37B406 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 09:36:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@saxa.georgetown.edu) Received: from localhost (paul@localhost) by saxa.georgetown.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA12224 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 12:36:53 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 12:36:53 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Subject: pdfjadetex, Fatal format Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (I hope this is the right place to send this q) Following the " Primer for New Contributors," i'm trying to convert a sgml file to text and then pdf. I used 'Example A-1' (DocBook ) as the content for my file, and converted to tex as indicated in 'Example A-5'. Finally, I attempted to convert it to pdf and the following happened: % tex "&pdfjadetex" firstbook.tex This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.1) (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) I'm running release 4.3 and i did a cvsup before installing the docproj files. While compiling i ran out of room on my /usr partition, so that files that had not been installed were installed through the packets system: jadetex, links, netpbm, peps, sp. They were downloaded from current. This is a pkg_info listing of the files that could be relevent (i left the others out of this listing but they are installed): docbook-241 docbook-3.0 docbook-3.1 docbook-4.0 docbook-4.1 dsssl-docbook-modular-1.71 iso8879-1986 jade-1.2.1_1 jadetex-3.6 mkcatalog-1.1 sgmlformat-1.7 sp-1.3.4 teTeX-1.0.7 pdfjadetex files are present in these two places: /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/pdfjadetex.fmt /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/pdfjadetex.ini Oh, converting to Postscript works fine. Any way to fix this problem? thanks, -S- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 9:45:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8F437B414 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 09:45:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx.my.domain ([62.31.194.122]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 18 Aug 2001 17:45:21 +0100 From: John Murphy To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: emailing GNATS Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 17:47:26 +0100 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: <6j6tntsev4dm3jjovm94ig799icfc5k4s8@4ax.com> References: <986rnts92d8qsqh3ke114mn7rurri6r7o5@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <986rnts92d8qsqh3ke114mn7rurri6r7o5@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Murphy wrote: >Can I successfully create a pr by simply emailing = freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org >with a subject line the same as the synopsis and with body as below? Obviously not. See docs/29848: Handbook Chapter 13 (Backups) minor = changes Weird how "F"s =3D46. Sorry for the mess. John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 9:52: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [210.190.142.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD7737B407 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 09:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Received: from mail.hrslab.yi.org (p0212-ip01funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [211.123.225.212]) by eos.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id BAA28185; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 01:52:00 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.hrslab.yi.org [192.168.0.10]) by mail.hrslab.yi.org (8.9.3/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id BAA34732; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 01:49:17 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 01:49:12 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010819.014912.98853520.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: paul@saxa.georgetown.edu Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pdfjadetex, Fatal format From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b101 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, wrote in : paul> Finally, I attempted to convert it to pdf and the following happened: paul> paul> % tex "&pdfjadetex" firstbook.tex paul> This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.1) paul> (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) You should use "pdftex" instead of "tex". "pdfjadetex.fmt" is actually generated with: % pdftex -ini "&pdflatex" -progname=pdfjadetex pdfjadetex.ini -- | Hiroki Sato | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 10: 7: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from saxa.georgetown.edu (saxa.georgetown.edu [141.161.20.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF26237B403 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:07:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@saxa.georgetown.edu) Received: from localhost (paul@localhost) by saxa.georgetown.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA12272; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:07:03 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:07:03 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Hiroki Sato Cc: Subject: Re: pdfjadetex, Fatal format In-Reply-To: <20010819.014912.98853520.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm not sure I quite understand. Say i have my file: firstbook.sgml Do i still convert this to tex with jade? or do i need to change the jade command? Then how do use the pdftex command to convert the file to pdf? thanks, -S- On Sun, 19 Aug 2001, Hiroki Sato wrote: > Hi, > > wrote > in : > > paul> Finally, I attempted to convert it to pdf and the following happened: > paul> > paul> % tex "&pdfjadetex" firstbook.tex > paul> This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.1) > paul> (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) > > You should use "pdftex" instead of "tex". "pdfjadetex.fmt" is actually > generated with: > > % pdftex -ini "&pdflatex" -progname=pdfjadetex pdfjadetex.ini > > -- > | Hiroki Sato > | > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 10:53:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [210.190.142.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326E337B401 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:53:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Received: from mail.hrslab.yi.org (p0212-ip01funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [211.123.225.212]) by eos.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id CAA15451; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 02:53:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.hrslab.yi.org [192.168.0.10]) by mail.hrslab.yi.org (8.9.3/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id CAA35031; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 02:53:05 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 02:51:23 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010819.025123.91307958.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: paul@saxa.georgetown.edu Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pdfjadetex, Fatal format From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: References: <20010819.014912.98853520.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b101 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org wrote in : paul> Say i have my file: firstbook.sgml paul> Do i still convert this to tex with jade? or do i need to change the jade paul> command? paul> Then how do use the pdftex command to convert the file to pdf? Yes, you need to convert .sgml to .tex with jade first, then compile .tex with pdftex '&pdfjadetex'. In short: a) get .dvi or .ps format sgml --(jade)--> tex --(tex '&jadetex')--------> dvi --(dvips)--> ps b) get .pdf format sgml --(jade)--> tex --(pdftex '&pdfjadetex')--> pdf To use pdftex, execute the following command: % pdftex '&pdfjadetex' firstbook.tex after sgml->tex conversion with jade. The primer is incorrect on that point (s/tex/pdftex/). Probably doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk would help. In addition, as the alternative, you can use print/dvipdfm in FreeBSD Ports Collection to create .pdf from .dvi (in that case, only jadetex is needed). -- | Hiroki Sato | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 11:15:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B1D37B411; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 11:15:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7II6O810443; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 11:06:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 11:06:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108181806.f7II6O810443@freefall.freebsd.org> To: root@www-1.wr.usgs.gov, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29841: stilted language and incorrect punctuation Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: stilted language and incorrect punctuation State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Sat Aug 18 11:05:38 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Appears to be a duplicate of docs/29842. Closing this PR because docs/29842 already has (at least) one follow-up. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29841 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 11:25:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from saxa.georgetown.edu (saxa.georgetown.edu [141.161.20.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC4F37B406 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 11:25:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@saxa.georgetown.edu) Received: from localhost (paul@localhost) by saxa.georgetown.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA12376; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:25:05 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:25:05 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Hiroki Sato Cc: Subject: Re: pdfjadetex, Fatal format In-Reply-To: <20010819.025123.91307958.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org excellent, both methods work perfectly. thanks again, -S- On Sun, 19 Aug 2001, Hiroki Sato wrote: > wrote > in : > > paul> Say i have my file: firstbook.sgml > paul> Do i still convert this to tex with jade? or do i need to change the jade > paul> command? > paul> Then how do use the pdftex command to convert the file to pdf? > > Yes, you need to convert .sgml to .tex with jade first, then > compile .tex with pdftex '&pdfjadetex'. In short: > > a) get .dvi or .ps format > > sgml --(jade)--> tex --(tex '&jadetex')--------> dvi --(dvips)--> ps > > b) get .pdf format > > sgml --(jade)--> tex --(pdftex '&pdfjadetex')--> pdf > > To use pdftex, execute the following command: > > % pdftex '&pdfjadetex' firstbook.tex > > after sgml->tex conversion with jade. > > The primer is incorrect on that point (s/tex/pdftex/). > Probably doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk would help. > > In addition, as the alternative, you can use print/dvipdfm in FreeBSD > Ports Collection to create .pdf from .dvi (in that case, only jadetex > is needed). > > -- > | Hiroki Sato > | > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 13:10: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D58037B410 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7IKA0G25744; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi (h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi [193.166.84.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425B237B40E for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:01:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chu@h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi) Received: (from chu@localhost) by h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7IK16a45310; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 23:01:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from chu) Message-Id: <200108182001.f7IK16a45310@h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 23:01:06 +0300 (EEST) From: Vladimir Tchoukharev Reply-To: Vladimir Tchoukharev To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29852: Two mistypings in fdp-primer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29852 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Two mistypings in fdp-primer >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Aug 18 13:10:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Vladimir Tchoukharev >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi 4.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE #3: Fri Aug 3 08:56:25 EEST 2001 root@h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/H33 i386 >Description: In the patch below I try to correct two minor errors I faced. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/doc-build/chapter.sgml.orig Sat Aug 18 22:47:06 2001 +++ /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/doc-build/chapter.sgml Sat Aug 18 22:47:13 2001 @@ -130,7 +130,7 @@ Make syntax is quickly revised as - the we explore these types. + then we explore these types. Subdirectory Makefiles --- /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/the-website/chapter.sgml.orig Sat Aug 18 22:43:17 2001 +++ /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/the-website/chapter.sgml Sat Aug 18 22:43:27 2001 @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ space. &prompt.root; mkdir /var/tmp/webbuild -&prompt.root; cd /var/tmp/webuild +&prompt.root; cd /var/tmp/webbuild >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 13:19:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail34.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail34.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4901537B413; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:12:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail34.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010818201241.LOGE5177.femail34.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:12:41 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7IKCe102594; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:12:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108182012.f7IKCe102594@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Nik Clayton Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml In-Reply-To: <20010817092301.B59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200108161609.f7GG9HH21329@freefall.freebsd.org> <200108170411.f7H4BD828408@intruder.bmah.org> <20010817092301.B59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Comments: In-reply-to Nik Clayton message dated "Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:23:01 +0100." From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1456908161P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:12:40 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1456908161P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Nik Clayton wrote: > > One concern I have about the intro material (which is quite nice BTW) is > > that it is now even i386-centric than the old text. Do you think this > > will be a problem? > > It's not something I'm entirely comfortable with, but I can only write > about what I know. At this point we really need someone with an Alpha > who can write about the install process, and tell us how much of the > process is common between i386 and alpha, Yeah. It's hard to write about an architecture you (and I) rarely use. One of the main issues I'm concerned with is this: For example, as you know, RELNOTESng builds architecture-specific documents. Clearly this is not feasible for the Handbook, but there has to be some other way to deal with this issue. I *think* we can do this by having parallel sections where necessary, e.g.: Chapter 2 Installing FreeBSD 2.1 Synopsis 2.2 Pre-installation Tasks 2.2.1 Inventory Your Computer 2.2.2 Backup Your Data 2.2.3 Decide Where to Install FreeBSD 2.2.3.1 i386 2.2.3.2 Alpha 2.2.4 Check for FreeBSD Errata 2.2.5 Prepare the Boot Discs 2.3 Starting the Installation 2.3.1 Starting the Installation Process 2.3.1.1 i386 2.3.1.2 Alpha 2.3.2 Starting UserConfig ...etc... Specific issues: FreeBSD on the Alpha can't share a disk with another OS so the whole section on "Deciding Where to Install" doesn't apply. There's a requirement for a specific type of firmware on the Alpha (not an issue on the i386). Bootable CDROMs work, but it seems like you usually need to type something from their boot monitor to tell them to do this (whereas on the i386 you set up something in the BIOS and tell it to boot). In an ideal world, I think we would nuke the installation document from RELNOTESng and just *give* the readers the Handbook install chapter on the CDROM (or, to save space, maybe the part before the sysinstall walkthrough), but we need to resolve the multi-architecture issues first. Fortunately, it's now possible to build a single chapter of the Handbook, so this stands at least a glimmer of a chance of working. I can take a shot at bringing in the Alpha-specific material from the RELNOTESng installation document (help from "real" Alpha users would of course be welcomed). Do you think this might work? > > PPS. "All the world has to talk like 'merikans" nitpick: s/disc/disk/. > > My understanding has always been that hard disks are "disk" (obviously), > while floppies, CDs, and DVDs are "disc". Now *that's* interesting. I think I've *always* written "disk" for everything, although, come to think of it, I've never tried to expand the acronym "CD". 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freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: murray@stokely.org Subject: Re: docs/29848: Handbook Chapter 13 (Backups) minor changes Reply-To: murray@stokely.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29848; it has been noted by GNATS. From: murray@stokely.org To: John Murphy Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29848: Handbook Chapter 13 (Backups) minor changes Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 17:06:39 -0700 On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 04:39:28PM +0100, John Murphy wrote: > > >Number: 29848 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: Handbook Chapter 13 (Backups) minor changes > >Confidential: no > >Severity: non-critical > >Priority: low > >Responsible: freebsd-doc > >State: open > >Quarter: > >Keywords: > >Date-Required: > >Class: doc-bug > >Submitter-Id: current-users > >Arrival-Date: Sat Aug 18 08:40:00 PDT 2001 > >Closed-Date: > >Last-Modified: > >Originator: John Murphy > >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 > >Organization: > >Environment: > >Description: > doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backups/chapter.sgml > > Removed XXX* and XXX XXX is a convention we use to show that something needs to be written. We can't just remove the XXX without adding several paragraphs of content. This chapter needs a lot of work, hence the XXXs. > > - XXX* Mini-Cartridge > + Mini-Cartridge > =20 > > - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 18 23:50:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.wi.rr.com (fe5.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BF137B409 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 23:50:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from justin@twtelecom.net) Received: from twtelecom.net ([24.160.240.204]) by mail5.wi.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sun, 19 Aug 2001 01:50:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3B7F6236.DFFA306F@twtelecom.net> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 01:52:38 -0500 From: Justin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: am i missing something in the config or is my card Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C8BFFD4AEDFBAA37E4AFB9EA" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C8BFFD4AEDFBAA37E4AFB9EA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit just not supported. This is what I get with a cat /dev/sndstat from root. ~~~~~~~~~ FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Aug 19 2001 01:33:17 Installed devices: pcm0: at irq 9 (1p/1r channels duplex) ~~~~~~~~~ i get no feedback from a : # cd /dev # sh MAKEDEV snd0 from root. ~~~~~~~~~~ my card is: Crystal CS4280 3D PCI Audio --------------C8BFFD4AEDFBAA37E4AFB9EA Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="justin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Justin Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="justin.vcf" begin:vcard n:Victoria;Justin tel;home:- tel;work:414-908-9077 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Time Warner Telecom;Data Operations Team adr:;;3235 Intertech Dr. Suite 600;Brookfield ;WI;53045;USA version:2.1 email;internet:justin@twtelecom.net title:Technical Support Engineer I fn:Justin Victoria end:vcard --------------C8BFFD4AEDFBAA37E4AFB9EA-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message