From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 9:30:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bay.ein.cz (bay.ein.cz [62.24.69.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519B337B408; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.ein.cz (oak.ein.cz [62.24.69.194]) by bay.ein.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6621135BB; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:24:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: by oak.ein.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 37BD31C680; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:21:39 +0200 (CEST) From: "EIN Media" To: "EIN Media" Subject: World Terrorism Report - Daily Brief MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C13D00.8F67BF80"; X-Author: petr@einmedia.com Message-Id: <20010914082034.0FE201C655@oak.ein.cz> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:20:34 +0200 (CEST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C13D00.8F67BF80 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C13D00.8F67BF80" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C13D00.8F67BF80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable World Terrorism Report - Daily Brief Dear EIN Reader,=20 The attack on America affects many aspects of global policy and = business. These developments will unfold over the next few weeks and = months.=20 Because of the significance of what happened September 11 in New York = and Washington, the European Internet Network (EIN), in cooperation with = the Internet Product Development Group (IPDG), has created a constantly = updated World Terrorism Report.=20 The World Terrorism Report is now available for FREE. A sample is = provided below.=20 To sign up to EIN's World Terrorism Report Daily e-Mail Brief go to=20 http://www.europeaninternet.com/briefs/ or simply respond to this = e-mail.=20 To visit the EIN World Terrorism Report online version please go to=20 http://www.europeaninternet.com/terrorism/=20 Best regards,=20 European Internet Network www.europeaninternet.com =20 CLICK HERE TO VISIT OUR SPONSOR =20 HOME NEWS BY EMAIL DISCUSSION CHAT FEEDBACK=20 Forward this email to a friend or colleague!=20 Subscribe to the Daily Brief by typing your email address in the = box below and clicking "Submit".=20 =20 Visit EIN's sites for more regional news: Central Europe Online Russia Today Inside China Today European Internet=20 (C) 1995-2001 European Internet Network, Inc. (EIN). ALL RIGHTS RESERVED=20 EUROPEAN INTERNET NETWORK (EIN): World Terrorism Report = http://www.europeaninternet.com/terrorism=20 Last updated: Fri, Sep 14 at Lon. 07:28 am, Prague 09:28 am, N.Y. = 03:28 am=20 Total Subscribers to EIN Briefs: 85873 =20 =20 a.. For latest news on terrorist attacks against the U.S. visit = EIN's World Terrorism Report! b.. Notice to Daily Brief Subscribers: Professional Edition: Sign = up this week and save 10% off regular pricing. Join 1000's of paid = subscribers who read more than just the headlines. You can search the = archives AND read the news too. Don't just read headlines! Sign up = today! Stay competitive. Stay Informed.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - LIVE DIGITAL NEWS FEED - (A Service of IPD Group) These stories are not published by EIN and these links will take = you to other websites. Some of these websites require their own = registration to read their stories. Please read the DISCLAIMER for more = details. a.. Bin Laden: a 'Master Impresario': Saudi Fugitive Spouts = Militant Rhetoric, But Ties to Violence Remain Mysterious 14 Sep 2001 = 06:08=20 b.. Key Arab States Voice Support on Terrorism 14 Sep 2001 06:08 = c.. Powell Says Bin Laden a Prime Suspect 14 Sep 2001 06:08=20 d.. Afghan Radio: 'Taliban Could Hand Over Bin Laden' 14 Sep = 2001 06:08=20 e.. Arafat Urges Arabs to Join Anti-terror Coalition 14 Sep 2001 = 06:08=20 f.. Feds Enlist ISPs in Terrorist Probe 14 Sep 2001 06:08=20 g.. Kenyan Police Say Nairobi Bomb Threat a Hoax 14 Sep 2001 = 06:08=20 h.. French Envoy: Terror Differs in US, Israel 14 Sep 2001 06:08 = i.. Gulf War-style Anti-terror Coalition to Include Israel 14 = Sep 2001 06:08=20 j.. Dismantle Terror-supporting Regimes 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20 k.. Bin Laden Moved After Attacks 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20 l.. Hundreds Attend Terror Victim's Burial 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20 m.. Powell: Bin Laden a Prime Suspect 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20 n.. Russia not Planning Actions Against Terrorist Bases 14 Sep = 2001 06:07=20 o.. NATO, Russia Insist on Punishment of Terrorists 14 Sep 2001 = 06:07=20 p.. Russian Prosecutor General's Office Aware of Relations = Between Chechen Rebels, Bin Laden 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20 q.. Americans to Use All of Their Might to Avenge Terrorists - = Duma Member 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20 r.. Tashkent Proposes Setting up International Anti-terrorist = Center 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20 s.. Bush Vows to 'whip' Terrorists 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20 t.. Death Toll Grows, 50 Terrorists Sought 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20 u.. Vice Premier Qian, Powell Talk on Fighting Terrorism 14 Sep = 2001 06:07=20 v.. Mubarak, Bush Discuss Anti-Terrorism Issues by Phone 14 Sep = 2001 06:07=20 w.. US Pledges Sustained Military Response to Terrorist Attacks = 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20 x.. Powell Singles out Bin Laden As Suspect 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20 y.. AAL Donates $1 Million in Fraternal Funds to Help Victims of = Tuesday's Terrorist Attack 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20 (1-25 of 832) More stories =20 Note: this brief features highlights from today's edition of World = Terrorism Report. For full stories and all the news and features, visit = World Terrorism Report on the World Wide Web.=20 Advertise on World Terrorism Report=20 For immediate information contact an Account Representative. = =20 Do you have some interesting content that you would like to share = with the EIN networks audience? How about a product or service to sell = or promote? Or, just ask us about this week's advertising, sponsorship, = and promotions specials! 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Dear EIN Reader,=20

The attack on America affects many aspects of global policy and = business.=20 These developments will unfold over the next few weeks and months.=20

Because of the significance of what happened September 11 in New = York and=20 Washington, the European Internet Network (EIN), in cooperation with = the=20 Internet Product Development Group (IPDG), has created a constantly = updated=20 World Terrorism Report.=20

The World Terrorism Report is now available for FREE. A sample is = provided=20 below.=20

To sign up to EIN's World Terrorism Report Daily e-Mail Brief go to =
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  • For latest news on terrorist attacks against the = U.S. visit=20 EIN's World Terrorism Report!


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      These stories are not published by EIN and these links will = take you=20 to other websites. Some of these websites require their own = registration=20 to read their stories. Please read the DISCLAIMER for more = details.

    • Bin = Laden: a=20 'Master Impresario': Saudi Fugitive Spouts Militant Rhetoric, = But Ties=20 to Violence Remain Mysterious 14 Sep 2001 = 06:08=20
    • Key = Arab States=20 Voice Support on Terrorism 14 Sep 2001 = 06:08=20
    • Powell = Says Bin=20 Laden a Prime Suspect 14 Sep 2001 = 06:08=20
    • Afghan = Radio:=20 'Taliban Could Hand Over Bin Laden' 14 Sep = 2001=20 06:08=20
    • Arafat = Urges Arabs=20 to Join Anti-terror Coalition 14 Sep 2001 = 06:08=20
    • Feds = Enlist ISPs=20 in Terrorist Probe 14 Sep 2001 06:08=20
    • Kenyan = Police Say=20 Nairobi Bomb Threat a Hoax 14 Sep 2001 = 06:08=20
    • French = Envoy:=20 Terror Differs in US, Israel 14 Sep 2001 = 06:08=20
    • Gulf = War-style=20 Anti-terror Coalition to Include Israel 14 = Sep 2001=20 06:08=20
    • Dismantle=20 Terror-supporting Regimes 14 Sep 2001 = 06:07=20
    • Bin = Laden Moved=20 After Attacks 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20
    • Hundreds = Attend=20 Terror Victim's Burial 14 Sep 2001 = 06:07=20
    • Powell: Bin = Laden=20 a Prime Suspect 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20
    • Russia = not=20 Planning Actions Against Terrorist Bases 14 = Sep 2001=20 06:07=20
    • NATO, = Russia=20 Insist on Punishment of Terrorists 14 Sep = 2001=20 06:07=20
    • Russian = Prosecutor=20 General's Office Aware of Relations Between Chechen Rebels, Bin=20 Laden 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20
    • Americans to = Use=20 All of Their Might to Avenge Terrorists - Duma Member 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20
    • Tashkent = Proposes=20 Setting up International Anti-terrorist Center 14 Sep=20 2001 06:07=20
    • Bush = Vows to=20 'whip' Terrorists 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20
    • Death = Toll Grows,=20 50 Terrorists Sought 14 Sep 2001 = 06:07=20
    • Vice = Premier Qian,=20 Powell Talk on Fighting Terrorism 14 Sep = 2001=20 06:07=20
    • Mubarak, Bush=20 Discuss Anti-Terrorism Issues by Phone 14 = Sep 2001=20 06:07=20
    • US = Pledges=20 Sustained Military Response to Terrorist Attacks 14=20 Sep 2001 06:07=20
    • Powell = Singles out=20 Bin Laden As Suspect 14 Sep 2001 = 06:07=20
    • AAL = Donates $1=20 Million in Fraternal Funds to Help Victims of Tuesday's = Terrorist=20 Attack 14 Sep 2001 06:07=20

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    Note: this brief features highlights from = today's=20 edition of World Terrorism Report. For full stories and all the = news and=20 features, visit World=20 Terrorism Report on the World Wide Web.=20

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-0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b062.otenet.gr [195.167.121.190]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8GIfTd27056 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:41:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8GIfvX34892; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:41:57 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon) Message-Id: <200109161841.f8GIfvX34892@hades.hell.gr> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:41:57 +0300 (EEST) From: Giorgos Keramidas Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30612: add a few missing and tags, also correct dos -> DOS, to new-users article Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30612 >Category: docs >Synopsis: add a few missing and tags, also correct dos -> DOS, to new-users article >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Sep 16 11:50:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Giorgos Keramidas >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD hades.hell.gr 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #5: Tue Sep 4 19:49:44 EEST 2001 root@hades.hell.gr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CHARON i386 >Description: While attempting to translate new-users article to Greek, I came along a few places that and tags seem proper. Also corrected a few places where dos was not capitalized, despite the fact that in other places it's capitalized. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- patch-aa begins here --- Index: article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/new-users/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.24 diff -u -r1.24 article.sgml --- article.sgml 11 Sep 2001 11:26:41 -0000 1.24 +++ article.sgml 16 Sep 2001 18:28:04 -0000 @@ -604,7 +604,7 @@ so here's a way to create a file from a man page, move it to a floppy, and then print it from DOS. Suppose you want to read carefully about changing permissions on files (pretty - important). You can use the command man chmod to read about it. + important). You can use man chmod to read about it. The command @@ -625,7 +625,7 @@ Now (you no longer need to be root, and you can type exit to get back to being user jack) you can go to - the directory where you created chmod.txt and copy the file to + the directory where you created chmod.txt and copy the file to the floppy with: @@ -664,20 +664,20 @@ Wordpad, or a word processor, make a minor change so the file has to be saved, and print as you normally would from DOS or Windows. Hope it works! man pages come out best if printed - with the dos print command. (Copying files from - FreeBSD to a mounted dos partition is in some cases still a + with the DOS print command. (Copying files from + FreeBSD to a mounted DOS partition is in some cases still a little risky.) Getting the printer printing from FreeBSD involves creating an appropriate entry in /etc/printcap and creating a matching spool directory in /var/spool/output. If your printer is on - lpt0 (what dos calls LPT1), you may + lpt0 (what DOS calls LPT1), you may only need to go to /var/spool/output and (as root) create the directory lpd by typing: - mkdir lpd, if it doesn't already exist. + mkdir lpd, if it doesn't already exist. Then the printer should respond if it's turned on when the - system is booted, and lp or lpr should send a file to the + system is booted, and lp or lpr should send a file to the printer. Whether or not the file actually prints depends on configuring it, which is covered in the FreeBSD handbook. @@ -751,7 +751,7 @@ - Use find to locate filename in + Use find to locate filename in /usr or any of its subdirectories with @@ -761,10 +761,10 @@ You can use * as a wildcard in "filename" (which should be in - quotes). If you tell find to search in / + quotes). If you tell find to search in / instead of /usr it will look for the file(s) on all mounted file systems, including the CDROM and the - dos partition. + DOS partition. An excellent book that explains Unix commands and utilities is Abrahams & Larson, Unix for the @@ -837,7 +837,7 @@ /cdrom/ports/distfiles, you will have to get the distfile using another machine and copy it to /usr/ports/distfiles from a floppy or your - dos partition. Read Makefile (with cat + DOS partition. Read Makefile (with cat or more or view) to find out where to go (the master distribution site) to get the file and what its name is. Its name will be truncated when downloaded to DOS, and --- patch-aa ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 12:43:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2DC37B401; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20 [10.1.1.22]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8GJhM620848; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:43:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f8GJhfG21879; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:43:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:43:40 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Bob Van Valzah Cc: Murray Stokely , Greg Lehey , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reviewers for Bootstrapping Vinum Doc Message-ID: <20010916214340.A21757@cicely20.cicely.de> References: <3BA01768.2000902@BGPBook.Com> <20010912205708.L9233@windriver.com> <20010913152014.A783@canberra.worldwide.lemis.com> <3BA1FFEE.7000305@BGPBook.Com> <20010914140434.E9233@windriver.com> <3BA3BDD6.8060401@BGPBook.Com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BA3BDD6.8060401@BGPBook.Com>; from Bob@BGPBook.Com on Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:45:10PM -0500 X-Operating-System: NetBSD cicely20.cicely.de 1.5 sparc Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:45:10PM -0500, Bob Van Valzah wrote: > Ok, I have a document ready for your review. There's still a lot of > "tweaking" I'd do given the luxury of time, but I wanted to get you and > Greg something fast. It's about 25 pages. See http://www.BGPBook.Com/vinum/ I've found the following points in Table 1. The MTBF for a RAID1 is increased not halfed. In fact the MTBF for striped and concatenated is also not halfed. The MTBF for a 2 disk RAID0 is somewhere between 1/2 and 1. And for a 2 disk RAID1 it is somwhere between 1 and 2. It depends on how strong the variations of real failures from the MTBF is. Say we have 2 disks with an MTBF of 5 years. Asume the unlikely case that we have no varianz on the 5 years, which means a RAID0 with these disks will also have an MTBF of 5 year. To calculate both thing statisticaly right you need to know the standart divergence of the MTBF. Well vendors only name the MTBF so you should at least mark it as a worst case. I did not read it completely yet so this is not a comment on the complete document. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 14:21: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD9137B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a188.otenet.gr [212.205.215.188]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8GLKwd11456 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:20:59 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8GJIbP35598 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:18:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:18:36 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Greek Translation of doc/ tree Message-ID: <20010916221836.A35568@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3A 75 52 EB F1 58 56 0D - C5 B8 21 B6 1B 5E 4A C2 X-URL: http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I've started translating documentation from doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 to the Greek language, and in a local CVS repository have created a doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7 tree to hold the docs while I'm working on them. So far, I've only managed to find three Greek FreeBSD users who are willing to help translating articles and parts of the FAQ. There were a few changes I had to make in doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7/ files to make sure that at least the HTML version of the docs builds correctly. I'm not really an SGML expert, and parts of the HTML output (like `Chapter' and `Table of Contents' words in headings) remain in English, but you can see what has been translated so far at: http://frebsd.labs.gr/index.html A regular 'cvs export' (updated almost daily) of the el_US.ISO8859-7 files can be found at: http://freebsd.labs.gr/doc.tgz Apart from HTML, I haven't managed to make other formats of the docs to build correctly, since adding Greek support to TeX is way beyong my beginner expertise, in TeX & jade. I rebuild the Greek docs every day, to see if there are errors that crept in and their latest version is periodically saved at: http://freebsd.labs.gr/doc-html.tgz For the moment, I'm merging between CVS trees, until we have at least a couple of articles completed. The first chapter(s) of the FAQ are also on their way, and there are plans to start working on the Handbook, once we get to find more volunteers to start working in parallel with the rest of us, or when the FAQ is close to being complete. The question is, when would it be a nice point in time to send-pr the doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7 changes and have them included in the FreeBSD docs? -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 15:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D501F37B40B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8GMU0v48190; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:30:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from asana.dhis.org (as5300-38.richmond.in.hypervine.net [216.117.89.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDE637B413 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mark@localhost) by asana.dhis.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f8GMSDl01045; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:28:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark) Message-Id: <200109162228.f8GMSDl01045@asana.dhis.org> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:28:13 -0500 (EST) From: mark@summersault.com Reply-To: mark@summersault.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30618: ediff man page incomplete Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30618 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ediff man page incomplete >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Sep 16 15:30:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mark Stosberg >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD asana.dhis.org 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sat Apr 21 10:54:49 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: Hello! I just discovered and tried to use the nice GNU sdiff utility. A primary feature of this utility is it's ability to interactively work with file differences. However, the documentation (man sdiff) does not explain any of the commands that are used interactively. I found that there are explained on the GNU site though: http://www.gnu.org/manual/diffutils/html_chapter/diff_9.html#SEC59 I'm not sure whether this is a GNU distribution bug or a FreeBSD bug. I'm sorry if I'm posted this report in th wrong place. Thanks for the great OS. :) -mark >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 15:50: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DE037B40A for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8GMo1q60182; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109162250.f8GMo1q60182@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/30618: ediff man page incomplete Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/30618; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: mark@summersault.com Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/30618: ediff man page incomplete Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:45:33 +0300 mark@summersault.com wrote: > > I'm not sure whether this is a GNU distribution bug or a FreeBSD bug. I'm > sorry if I'm posted this report in th wrong place. The documentation of sdiff does not include a manpage that describes the merging commands, because GNU people seem to prefer the `info' format for documenting their programs. You can find the documentation for merging with sdiff by reading up: % info '(diff)' Read the node ``Interactive Merging''. It does have what you want :-) I guess, now this PR can be closed. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 18:36:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C91437B403; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8H1Wx895127; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:32:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109170132.f8H1Wx895127@freefall.freebsd.org> To: charon@labs.gr, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30602: correction of $d to ad2 in example of articles/formatting-media Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: correction of $d to ad2 in example of articles/formatting-media State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 16 18:32:37 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Your fix has been committed, thanks! It may take up to 24 hours before the web site is updated. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30602 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 18:36:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC63A37B40F; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8H1TvC94769; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:29:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:29:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109170129.f8H1TvC94769@freefall.freebsd.org> To: charon@labs.gr, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30612: add a few missing and tags, also correct dos -> DOS, to new-users article Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: add a few missing and tags, also correct dos -> DOS, to new-users article State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 16 18:29:42 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Your changes have been committed. Thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30612 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 18:56:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E9037B40F; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8H1mRk96528; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:48:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:48:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109170148.f8H1mRk96528@freefall.freebsd.org> To: d.ougy@bryden.apana.org.au, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc/26742: misleading information in handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: misleading information in handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 16 18:47:35 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: The text has been updated. You no longer have to configure NETGRAPH support for your kernel, it is done automatically if you add 'ppp' to your config file. If there are any more problems with this chapter, then please file another PR. Thanks. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26742 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 19: 0:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E446E37B40F for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 3FCB24B6A6; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:00:25 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Chapter 20. Contributing to FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010916190025.M16430@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Clx92ZfkiYIKRjnr" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Clx92ZfkiYIKRjnr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I would like to move Chapter 20, "Contributing to FreeBSD" out of the Handbook and into a separate article. I would then like to link to this article from the navigation bar on the left side of the main page. This content is not appropriate for the Handbook. This content will look even more out of place when we begin to split up the Handbook into smaller books. This move will make the content MORE visible, by placing it just one link away from our main page, as the OpenBSD and NetBSD web sites do. Thoughts or objections? - Murray --Clx92ZfkiYIKRjnr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7pVk4tNcQog5FH30RAtxPAJ91zUQKf72k5rcltyl7Ufnt45M0JACeOCtx xyP/++LOmPJCeUsZeJpQ8k8= =UZO+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Clx92ZfkiYIKRjnr-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 19:58:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA7537B40B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id AF6084B6A6; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:58:11 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Greek Translation of doc/ tree Message-ID: <20010916195811.N16430@windriver.com> References: <20010916221836.A35568@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BI5RvnYi6R4T2M87" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010916221836.A35568@hades.hell.gr>; from charon@labs.gr on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 10:18:36PM +0300 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --BI5RvnYi6R4T2M87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 10:18:36PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > I've started translating documentation from doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 to the > Greek language, and in a local CVS repository have created a > doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7 tree to hold the docs while I'm working on them. > So far, I've only managed to find three Greek FreeBSD users who are > willing to help translating articles and parts of the FAQ. Looks like you're off to an excellent start. I was able to build the FAQ, and the articles you've translated without any difficulty. Although, of course I couldn't decipher any of the web pages that were displayed in Netscape. > There were a few changes I had to make in doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7/ files > to make sure that at least the HTML version of the docs builds > correctly. I'm not really an SGML expert, and parts of the HTML > output (like `Chapter' and `Table of Contents' words in headings) > remain in English, but you can see what has been translated so far at: Those names are specified as entities. You can see how this is done by looking through /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/common/dbl1??.(dsl|ent) For example, dbl1en.dsl, defines an entity for the spanish word for Chapter. I believe you will find the same in dbl1el.dsl/ent for Greek. You just need to tell your stylesheets (not sure where, probably in your localized freebsd.dsl) to use the Greek localizations instead of the default English localizations. > The question is, when would it be a nice point in time to send-pr the > doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7 changes and have them included in the FreeBSD > docs? I'll have to let Nik or someone else comment on this, since I don't have any experience with bringing in new translations. It looks pretty good to me. ;) - Murray --BI5RvnYi6R4T2M87 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7pWbCtNcQog5FH30RAv7WAJ0R6MwXXBjIa6K6xtH50y/6sB54VwCaAuFW 7jq3h9ih9DF3xV4eDP+Otyc= =8JqR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BI5RvnYi6R4T2M87-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 20:26:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615E037B408; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8H3Qqf15625; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:26:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:26:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109170326.f8H3Qqf15625@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30199: documentation on installing on laptops Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: documentation on installing on laptops State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 16 20:25:18 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: This article has been imported with the following changes : * The man page references were converted to entities so that appropriate links could be created for online viewing. * Devicenames wrapped in * Commands wrapped in * Files wrapped in etc.. Thanks for your submission! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30199 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 20:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE39F37B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8H3U2315872; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109170330.f8H3U2315872@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Mark Stosberg Subject: Re: docs/30618: sdiff man page incomplete Reply-To: Mark Stosberg Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/30618; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mark Stosberg To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Subject: Re: docs/30618: sdiff man page incomplete Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:26:11 -0500 (EST) Thanks for the pointer Giorges. I also figured out that if I try "h" once I've started the program interactively, that will give me what I want, too. What about updating the man page to tell people they should read the "info" page for more information? I'm familiar with the info system, but that just didn't occur to me. -mark On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > mark@summersault.com wrote: > > > > I'm not sure whether this is a GNU distribution bug or a FreeBSD bug. I'm > > sorry if I'm posted this report in th wrong place. > > The documentation of sdiff does not include a manpage that describes the > merging commands, because GNU people seem to prefer the `info' format for > documenting their programs. You can find the documentation for merging with > sdiff by reading up: > > % info '(diff)' > > Read the node ``Interactive Merging''. It does have what you want :-) > > I guess, now this PR can be closed. > > -giorgos > http://mark.stosberg.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 20:53:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C5537B403; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id A947E4B6A6; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:53:53 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Murray Stokely Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: On the subject of translations (was Re: Greek Translation of doc/ tree) Message-ID: <20010916205353.O16430@windriver.com> References: <20010916221836.A35568@hades.hell.gr> <20010916195811.N16430@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qz2CZ664xQdCRdPu" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010916195811.N16430@windriver.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 07:58:11PM -0700 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Qz2CZ664xQdCRdPu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Can we import the Yugoslavian article that has been sitting in the PR database for 4 months? What sort of sanity checking do we do for submissions in other languages? http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27430 Thanks, - Murray --Qz2CZ664xQdCRdPu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7pXPQtNcQog5FH30RArOyAJ9G94xpmWcDI0F6gJAoPc76QtZROQCgx1PY 2SLtcs0C1MXDbdksSndhyGA= =IF7X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qz2CZ664xQdCRdPu-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 20:56:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302ED37B409; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8H3upL18644; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:56:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:56:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109170356.f8H3upL18644@freefall.freebsd.org> To: random@beotel.yu, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/27430: Addition to the doc/sr_YU/articles tree Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Addition to the doc/sr_YU/articles tree State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 16 20:55:57 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Your article is not available at that URL. Please repost any FreeBSD documentation that you want to submit to the FreeBSD CVS repository. Thanks. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27430 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 20:57: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A93237B40A; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8H3lbu17631; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:47:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:47:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109170347.f8H3lbu17631@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30316: Handbook section on antialiased fonts with gtk/gnome Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook section on antialiased fonts with gtk/gnome State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 16 20:47:02 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Your addition has been committed with minor changes. It may take up to 24 hours for this change to reach the web site. Thanks for your submission! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30316 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 16 21:36:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4B137B409; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8H4TEe24371; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:29:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109170429.f8H4TEe24371@freefall.freebsd.org> To: stephen@math.missouri.edu, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/17774: stray irq7 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: stray irq7 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 16 21:28:42 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: An entry has been added to the FAQ. This may take up to 24 hours to reach the website. Thanks for your submission! Sorry this took so long ;) http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17774 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 17 2:22:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D2C37B403; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 02:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8H9F7877421; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:15:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:15:07 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Murray Stokely Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Greek Translation of doc/ tree Message-ID: <20010917101507.S18986@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010916221836.A35568@hades.hell.gr> <20010916195811.N16430@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lzfPtAjrR1KYNfg0" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010916195811.N16430@windriver.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 07:58:11PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --lzfPtAjrR1KYNfg0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 07:58:11PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > > There were a few changes I had to make in doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7/ files > > to make sure that at least the HTML version of the docs builds > > correctly. I'm not really an SGML expert, and parts of the HTML > > output (like `Chapter' and `Table of Contents' words in headings) > > remain in English, but you can see what has been translated so far at: >=20 > Those names are specified as entities. You can see how this is done > by looking through > /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/common/dbl1??.(dsl|ent) >=20 > For example, dbl1en.dsl, defines an entity for the spanish word for Cha= pter. >=20 > >=20 > I believe you will find the same in dbl1el.dsl/ent for Greek. >=20 > You just need to tell your stylesheets (not sure where, probably in > your localized freebsd.dsl) to use the Greek localizations instead of > the default English localizations. or
    should do it. > > The question is, when would it be a nice point in time to send-pr the > > doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7 changes and have them included in the FreeBSD > > docs? >=20 > I'll have to let Nik or someone else comment on this, since I don't > have any experience with bringing in new translations. It looks > pretty good to me. ;) If it builds and displays OK then I say "bring it in". N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --lzfPtAjrR1KYNfg0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEUEARECAAYFAjulvxsACgkQk6gHZCw343WHAgCfQsl/nCGeolRhKQ+nuLCI92XO t5IAlAgoe+Y4qgyQAaw9e7Ka6oXt+Pk= =yAIG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lzfPtAjrR1KYNfg0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 17 2:56:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C3D37B40B; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 02:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (relay2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.1]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3-2) with ESMTP id f8H9u8501619; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:56:08 +0200 (MEST) Received: from kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (root@kawoserv.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.180.1]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3/6) with ESMTP id f8H9u8301613; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:56:08 +0200 (MEST) Received: from fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (root@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.181.148]) by kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04284; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:56:05 +0200 Received: (from alex@localhost) by fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8H9uSZ86715; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:56:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:56:23 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chapter 20. Contributing to FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010917115623.B86568@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20010916190025.M16430@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010916190025.M16430@windriver.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 07:00:25PM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Thoughts or objections? No, I think it's a good idea. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 17 3: 0:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D7B37B40D for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 03:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8HA02O83158; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 03:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from dan.ms.mff.cuni.cz (dan.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.19.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F3A37B40B for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 02:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dan.ms.mff.cuni.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8H9psf02847; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:51:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dan) Message-Id: <200109170951.f8H9psf02847@dan.ms.mff.cuni.cz> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:51:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Dan Lukes Reply-To: Dan Lukes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30626: Typo in errno(2) manual Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30626 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Typo in errno(2) manual >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 17 03:00:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dan Lukes >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: Obludarium >Environment: System: FreeBSD dan.ms.mff.cuni.cz 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #62: Sun Sep 16 23:55:12 CEST 2001 dan@dan.ms.mff.cuni.cz:/usr/src/sys/compile/DanMS i386 >Description: The names of functions referenced in man pages should be exact. >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: --- errno.2.ORIG Mon Sep 17 11:44:15 2001 +++ errno.2 Mon Sep 17 11:45:15 2001 @@ -199,7 +199,7 @@ .It Er 24 EMFILE Em "Too many open files" . -.Xr Getdtablesize 2 +.Xr getdtablesize 2 will obtain the current limit. .It Er 25 ENOTTY Em "Inappropriate ioctl for device" . A control function (see >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 17 11: 0:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDD837B405 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8HI08Y07378 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109171800.f8HI08Y07378@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/12/28] docs/23910 doc Handbook Chapter 14. Sound -- some fixes o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () 3 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; f [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) s [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin s [2000/12/11] docs/23488 doc A manpage for section 7 regarding a Toron f [2001/01/26] docs/24662 doc too many questions about source managemen o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) a [2001/02/20] docs/25239 doc fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about s [2001/02/26] docs/25392 doc Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu f [2001/03/22] docs/26003 doc getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not sy a [2001/03/22] docs/26006 doc Changing zone(9) man page o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/04/08] docs/26451 doc ctype.h defined functions are not accurat o [2001/04/25] docs/26861 doc accept(2) manpage documents non-existant o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/06/02] docs/27833 doc No man page for locate.rc o [2001/06/06] docs/27915 doc man 5 passwd does not properly explain th s [2001/06/14] docs/28144 doc no manpage for host.conf, no xrefs in oth o [2001/06/20] docs/28306 doc docbook.css and OBJDIR o [2001/06/30] docs/28555 doc [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/07/22] docs/29143 doc List of man pages that need to be written o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP f [2001/08/07] docs/29525 doc hier(7) has sometimes-erroneous descripti o [2001/08/09] docs/29571 doc [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/05] docs/30343 doc minor changes to ata(4) manpage o [2001/09/06] docs/30408 doc loader man page is out-of-date o [2001/09/08] docs/30442 doc remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro o [2001/09/08] docs/30443 doc remove broken reference to kerberos(1) fr o [2001/09/08] docs/30444 doc remove broken references to gated(8) and o [2001/09/08] docs/30445 doc remove reference to nonexistent crd(4) fr o [2001/09/08] docs/30446 doc remove broken references to pvcsif(8) and o [2001/09/08] docs/30447 doc remove broken cxconfig(8) reference from o [2001/09/13] docs/30556 doc vnconfig man page incorrect; functionalit o [2001/09/15] docs/30603 doc physio(9) is internally inconsistent o [2001/09/16] docs/30618 doc ediff man page incomplete o [2001/09/17] docs/30626 doc Typo in errno(2) manual 40 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 17 13:18:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ariel.eastgw.xerox.com (ariel.xerox.com [208.140.33.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F262E37B408 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crthub2.crt.xerox.com (crthub2.crt.xerox.com [13.138.80.5]) by ariel.eastgw.xerox.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23771 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crthub2.crt.xerox.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:17:35 -0400 Message-ID: <5F76AC484B66D311A5950008C7A4193D2198A1@xrccntsv8.xrcc.xerox.com> From: "Searle, Robert (XRCC)" To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.h tml Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:09:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does the Free BSD community get the proceeds from the sale of the book not bought on the FreeBSD web site? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 17 13:50: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D9437B407 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8HKo3b40155; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109172050.f8HKo3b40155@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Gerhard Sittig Subject: Re: docs/27209: [PATCH] ascii.7 table rearrangement and uppercase specials Reply-To: Gerhard Sittig Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/27209; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Gerhard Sittig To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/27209: [PATCH] ascii.7 table rearrangement and uppercase specials Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:05:41 +0200 On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 02:58 -0700, dd@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: dd > State-Changed-When: Tue Sep 4 02:57:43 PDT 2001 > State-Changed-Why: > The originator did not respond to jhb's comments about this, so we'll assume > he's in agreement with them. > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27209 For the record: No, I don't agree to the "we don't need this" argument. If I did, there would have been no need for me to sit down and provide the patch. But responding to the rejection(?) couldn't be done in any other form than repeating what I stated initially: Columns are definitely easier to receive than wide lines. I believed this to be obvious and a proven / established opinion. It seems it wasn't. Or at least there has been no other feedback but one public voice against my change (don't know about the reasons but I guess the issue is just too small to argue about it for too long). And I was afraid that somebody would shout out something along the lines of "bike shed!" should some discussion start or even last for a little while. :) To cut it short: I don't force this change on anybody, but I still invite interested FreeBSD admins in using it. And I will keep this one in my local repo for sure. :> virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 17 14:50: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6892E37B405 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8HLo1r48953; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109172150.f8HLo1r48953@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/30626: Typo in errno(2) manual Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/30626; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Dan Lukes Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/30626: Typo in errno(2) manual Date: 17 Sep 2001 14:46:47 -0700 Dan Lukes writes: > --- errno.2.ORIG Mon Sep 17 11:44:15 2001 > +++ errno.2 Mon Sep 17 11:45:15 2001 > @@ -199,7 +199,7 @@ > .It Er 24 EMFILE Em "Too many open files" . > open files per process is 64.> > -.Xr Getdtablesize 2 > +.Xr getdtablesize 2 > will obtain the current limit. > .It Er 25 ENOTTY Em "Inappropriate ioctl for device" . > A control function (see A comment from a bystander: Words are cheap; adding one would form a proper sentence. -.Xr Getdtablesize 2 + Function +.Xr getdtablesize 2 (untested) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 17 16: 3:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F60537B40F for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id C2D424B6A7; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:03:37 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: "Searle, Robert (XRCC)" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.h tml Message-ID: <20010917160337.L19513@windriver.com> References: <5F76AC484B66D311A5950008C7A4193D2198A1@xrccntsv8.xrcc.xerox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4ndw/alBWmZEhfcZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5F76AC484B66D311A5950008C7A4193D2198A1@xrccntsv8.xrcc.xerox.com>; from Robert.Searle@crt.xerox.com on Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 04:09:23PM -0400 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --4ndw/alBWmZEhfcZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 04:09:23PM -0400, Searle, Robert (XRCC) wrote: > Does the Free BSD community get the proceeds from the sale of the book not > bought on the FreeBSD web site? Where, specifically, do you want to purchase the book? If you purchase the book from www.freebsdmall.com, then you are certainly supporting a company that has done a lot for the FreeBSD community. The money spent at FreeBSDMall will be used to pay a team of developers to continue working on FreeBSD, as well as to allow more products to be made and distributed to retail stores world-wide. If you buy the book from iUniverse.com, a small percentage of the proceeds are supposed to go somewhere, but that "somewhere" might be the FSF as far as I know. Nik will have to clarify here. You can also buy the 1st Edition Handbook from BSDi through several other resellers, but obviously more middle-persons are taking a cut along the way. - Murray --4ndw/alBWmZEhfcZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7poFJtNcQog5FH30RAmv4AKCKeWHyh1cI/pbtHmJ8tmHOf5A1IACgyQYH gqL+9HRnPeVF8C/eBb3u9Sg= =qvJo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4ndw/alBWmZEhfcZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 17 17: 6:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741A337B409; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chern@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8I00Tc99577; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chern) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:00:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109180000.f8I00Tc99577@freefall.freebsd.org> To: pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at, chern@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/23910: Handbook Chapter 14. Sound -- some fixes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook Chapter 14. Sound -- some fixes State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: chern State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 17 16:58:43 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Mentioned another way of deciding between snd0/snd1, and mentioned 'options PNPBIOS' in chapter. See r1.19, Thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23910 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 7:44: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ewmailer.eurowings.de (ewmailer.eurowings.de [193.96.182.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F0D0437B40A for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eurowings.de by ewmailer.eurowings.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA16645; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:43:53 +0200 Message-ID: <3BA75F03.934EE8AA@eurowings.de> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:49:39 +0200 From: Holger Kipp Reply-To: holger.kipp@alogis.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de]C-CCK-MCD DT (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de,en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sapr3.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Chapter 20 of the FreeBSD documentation (Linux Binary Compatibility) was changed a bit: "Restructured and parts updated by Jim Mock. Originally contributed by Brian N. Handy and Rich Murphey." In 20.5 Installing SAP R/3 my name got mangled a bit. It is Holger Kipp and not "Holger Kill". Could this be reverted, please. Furthermore my email "holger.kipp@alogis.com" can stay there as well in case people have questions about R3-Installation on FreeBSD. I had a few more points, but are currently working with a customer so have no access to my sent mails. One thing, though: SAP asked me to add a disclaimer, that installations using FreeBSD are not (and will not be) supported by SAP. Whom should I contact in future to change something of my article, or would it be possible for me to change it myself? I would then also need the article in its current format... Regards, Holger Kipp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 8:12: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A7E37B405 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (relay2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.1]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3-2) with ESMTP id f8IFC3624153; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:12:03 +0200 (MEST) Received: from kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (root@kawoserv.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.180.1]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3/6) with ESMTP id f8IFC2x24139; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:12:02 +0200 (MEST) Received: from fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (root@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.181.148]) by kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03093; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:12:00 +0200 Received: (from alex@localhost) by fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8IFCQ591167; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:12:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:12:24 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: holger.kipp@alogis.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sapr3.html Message-ID: <20010918171224.G90244@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> References: <3BA75F03.934EE8AA@eurowings.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BA75F03.934EE8AA@eurowings.de>; from kipp@eurowings.de on Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 04:49:39PM +0200 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Holger Kipp (kipp@eurowings.de): [I'm at work now, but so I don't have time to change the document, sorry]. > Whom should I contact in future to change something of my article, or > would it be possible for me to change it myself? I would then also > need the article in its current format... The current format can be obtained via cvsup. For future changes just contact the doc-mailinglist, as you did now, or better file a problem report with "send-pr" including a patch. 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    --------------5614ECC323049DAC43DC8EF7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 12:21:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aeon.tvd.be (aeon.tvd.be [195.162.196.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFBB37B40C for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cocaine.cryolabs.net (cable-213-132-151-215.upc.chello.be [213.132.151.215]) by aeon.tvd.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/RELAY-1.1) with ESMTP id VAA05562 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:21:07 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:19:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Wouter Van Hemel To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: help Message-ID: PGP: 0B B4 BC 28 53 62 FE 94 6A 57 EE B8 A6 E2 1B E4 (0xAA5412F0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'd like to contribute to freebsd - long-term even if the response is good. I'm not much of a c-programmer (my c-skills suck seriously), but I know lots of admin'ing *nix systems, graphic design, html, perl, shell scripting, etc, as long as I don't actually have to write c :) So, I first turn to this list to inquire if any help is needed. I've already a short section about keys and inputrc in mind (I get asked often about that)... Any comments? . . . . . w o u t e r . . . o . . . , /\ __=__/`\______________________________ __o _/ . ` . \_ _=_ o// O\ | w o u t e r v a n h e m e l | <\o/\ P `| |_ . h t t p : / / w w w . i n s o m n i a . c x / . _| O _\ |\ \_________________________________o________\o_________/ <'> /O^ |()o _O\ . l a v i e e n m o u v e m e n t |`\ >> \\ << . . . . . . . . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 13:24:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.bsdlabs.com (meow.bsdlabs.com [66.123.5.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1FF37B40A; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (chern@localhost) by meow.bsdlabs.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f8IKNv007728; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:23:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chern@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: meow.bsdlabs.com: chern owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:23:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Chern Lee X-X-Sender: To: Bob Van Valzah Cc: Murray Stokely , Greg Lehey , Subject: Re: Reviewers for Bootstrapping Vinum Doc In-Reply-To: <3BA3BDD6.8060401@BGPBook.Com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At a quick glance, your document looks great. We'll have to do something about the rotated images in the PostScript output. What are the original source files for these images? It would make a great addition to the Handbook print edition, but I'm not sure if we have the time. Greg, I know it's a lot to ask from your busy schedule, but do you have any time to spare to have this reviewed by the end of the week? I'd like to get this into the Handbook ASAP, if at all possible. If this is too much to ask for from both of you, perhaps this effort is best left for a later time--and the print edition can do without vinum. - chern On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Bob Van Valzah wrote: > Ok, I have a document ready for your review. There's still a lot of > "tweaking" I'd do given the luxury of time, but I wanted to get you and > Greg something fast. It's about 25 pages. See http://www.BGPBook.Com/vinum/ > > Comments welcome! (But please do not pass the above URL out for other > than review purposes). > > Thanks, > > Bob > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 15:27:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B11C37B445 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b036.otenet.gr [195.167.121.164]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8IMRdH21357 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:27:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8IKtoN01093 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:55:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:55:50 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: whitespace in closing Message-ID: <20010918235549.A1004@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3A 75 52 EB F1 58 56 0D - C5 B8 21 B6 1B 5E 4A C2 X-URL: http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been skimming through the faq sgml sources, while trying to translate parts of it to greek. In several places, I can read text like: As you can see, book.pdf will have been installed in to /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq. or even like: This error is caused when you have exhausted the number of available file descriptors on your system. The file table in memory is full. Is there any objection to going through the entire faq and removing extra whitespace from such places? I know it would definitely grow the repository with only whitespace fixes, and I can't prove for certain that extra whitespace can result in something bad or not for some output format, that's why I ask before doing something like that and sending with send-pr(1) a patch. Just a guess that having those extra spaces before might result in extra output lines, if the line break in some output format occurs *in* those extra spaces. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 15:30:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F69437B418 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8IMU1V89722; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B8537B408 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b036.otenet.gr [195.167.121.164]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8IMRjH21429 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:27:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8IIqgg06304; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:52:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon) Message-Id: <200109181852.f8IIqgg06304@hades.hell.gr> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:52:42 +0300 (EEST) From: Giorgos Keramidas Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30656: correction of to in IRC channels question Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30656 >Category: docs >Synopsis: correction of to in IRC channels question >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 18 15:30:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Giorgos Keramidas >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD hades.hell.gr 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #5: Tue Sep 4 19:49:44 EEST 2001 root@hades.hell.gr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CHARON i386 >Description: The question on IRC channels, uses in all channel descriptions to enclose channel names, except for the #FreeBSDhelp channel of EFnet. The attached patch changes the two instances of this to use instead, making things more consistent. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- patch-aa begins here --- Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.262 diff -u -r1.262 book.sgml --- book.sgml 17 Sep 2001 04:28:29 -0000 1.262 +++ book.sgml 18 Sep 2001 18:50:00 -0000 @@ -494,10 +494,10 @@ - Channel #FreeBSDhelp on + Channel #FreeBSDhelp on EFNet is a channel dedicated to helping FreeBSD users. They are much more sympathetic to questions then - #FreeBSD is. + #FreeBSD is. --- patch-aa ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 15:30:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7BF37B415 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8IMU1B89713; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B283C37B431 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b036.otenet.gr [195.167.121.164]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8IMRhH21397 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:27:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8IJDFB06703; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:13:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon) Message-Id: <200109181913.f8IJDFB06703@hades.hell.gr> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:13:16 +0300 (EEST) From: Giorgos Keramidas Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30655: change all *word* occurences to use instead in the FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30655 >Category: docs >Synopsis: change all *word* occurences to use instead in the FAQ >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 18 15:30:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Giorgos Keramidas >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD hades.hell.gr 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #5: Tue Sep 4 19:49:44 EEST 2001 root@hades.hell.gr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CHARON i386 >Description: In certain places in the faq the construct *word* is used to denote emphasis. Replace these with real tags. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- patch begins here --- Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.262 diff -u -r1.262 book.sgml --- book.sgml 17 Sep 2001 04:28:29 -0000 1.262 +++ book.sgml 18 Sep 2001 19:08:18 -0000 @@ -526,7 +526,7 @@ Each of these channels are distinct and are not connected to each other. Their chat styles also differ, so you may need to try each to find one suited to your chat style. As with - *all* types of IRC traffic, if you are easily offended or cannot + all types of IRC traffic, if you are easily offended or cannot deal with lots of young people (and more than a few older ones) doing the verbal equivalent of jello wrestling, do not even bother with it. @@ -1680,7 +1680,7 @@ If it is turned on (it is often supplied this way to get around certain limitations in MSDOS) and the disk capacity is more than 1GB, use M cylinders, 63 sectors per - track (*not* 64), and 255 heads, where 'M' is the disk capacity + track (not 64), and 255 heads, where 'M' is the disk capacity in MB divided by 7.844238 (!). So our example 2GB drive would have 261 cylinders, 63 sectors per track and 255 heads. @@ -3585,7 +3585,7 @@ - In particular, a dead giveaway that this is *not* a FreeBSD + In particular, a dead giveaway that this is not a FreeBSD bug is if you see the problem when you are compiling a program, but the activity that the compiler is carrying out changes each time. --- patch ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 15:30:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2B837B41A for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8IMU1S89731; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879A737B415 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b036.otenet.gr [195.167.121.164]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8IMRnH21469 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:27:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8IENBu04081; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:23:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon) Message-Id: <200109181423.f8IENBu04081@hades.hell.gr> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:23:11 +0300 (EEST) From: Giorgos Keramidas Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30657: markup sh, csh and tcsh in tags, add and , in new-users article Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30657 >Category: docs >Synopsis: markup sh, csh and tcsh in tags, add and , in new-users article >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 18 15:30:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Giorgos Keramidas >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD hades.hell.gr 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #5: Tue Sep 4 19:49:44 EEST 2001 root@hades.hell.gr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CHARON i386 >Description: While finishing the translation of the new-users article, I noticed that sh, csh and tcsh are written in running text without being tagged as commands. Surround these with ... Also change `escape' to Esc, and add to a literal /usr/local/bin/tcsh instance. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- patch begins here --- Index: article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/new-users/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.25 diff -u -r1.25 article.sgml --- article.sgml 17 Sep 2001 01:29:35 -0000 1.25 +++ article.sgml 18 Sep 2001 14:10:51 -0000 @@ -93,8 +93,8 @@ The first time you use adduser, it might ask for some - defaults to save. You might want to make the default shell csh - instead of sh, if it suggests sh as the default. Otherwise just + defaults to save. You might want to make the default shell csh + instead of sh, if it suggests sh as the default. Otherwise just press enter to accept each default. These defaults are saved in /etc/adduser.conf, an editable file. @@ -259,7 +259,7 @@ convenient). You can create other aliases by editing .cshrc. You can make these aliases available to all users on the system by putting them in the - system-wide csh configuration file, + system-wide csh configuration file, /etc/csh.cshrc. @@ -877,7 +877,7 @@ are kept, rehash, and then put the following lines in .cshrc in each user's home directory or (easier) in /etc/csh.cshrc, the - system-wide csh start-up file: + system-wide csh start-up file: setenv XKEYSYMDB /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB @@ -909,17 +909,17 @@ files: a series of commands to be run without your intervention. - Two shells come installed with FreeBSD: csh and sh. csh is + Two shells come installed with FreeBSD: csh and sh. csh is good for command-line work, but scripts should be written with - sh (or bash). You can find out what shell you have by typing + sh (or bash). You can find out what shell you have by typing echo $SHELL. - The csh shell is okay, but tcsh does everything csh does and + The csh shell is okay, but tcsh does everything csh does and more. It allows you to recall commands with the arrow keys - and edit them. It has tab-key completion of filenames (csh uses - the escape key), and it lets you switch to the directory you + and edit them. It has tab-key completion of filenames (csh uses + the Esc key), and it lets you switch to the directory you were last in with cd -. It's also much - easier to alter your prompt with tcsh. It makes life a lot + easier to alter your prompt with tcsh. It makes life a lot easier. Here are the three steps for installing a new shell: @@ -929,20 +929,20 @@ Install the shell as a port or a package, just as you would any other port or package. Use rehash and which tcsh - (assuming you're installing tcsh) to make sure it got + (assuming you're installing tcsh) to make sure it got installed. As root, edit /etc/shells, adding a line in the file for the new shell, in this case - /usr/local/bin/tcsh, and save the file. (Some ports may do + /usr/local/bin/tcsh, and save the file. (Some ports may do this for you.) Use the chsh command to change your - shell to tcsh permanently, or type tcsh + shell to tcsh permanently, or type tcsh at the prompt to change your shell without logging in again. @@ -950,27 +950,27 @@ It can be dangerous to change root's shell to something - other than sh or csh on early versions of FreeBSD and many + other than sh or csh on early versions of FreeBSD and many other versions of Unix; you may not have a working shell when the system puts you into single user mode. The solution is to use su -m to become root, which will give - you the tcsh as root, because the shell is part of the + you the tcsh as root, because the shell is part of the environment. You can make this permanent by adding it to your .tcshrc file as an alias with alias su su -m. - When tcsh starts up, it will read the + When tcsh starts up, it will read the /etc/csh.cshrc and - /etc/csh.login files, as does csh. It will + /etc/csh.login files, as does csh. It will also read the .login file in your home directory and the .cshrc file as well, unless you provide a .tcshrc file. This you can do by simply copying .cshrc to .tcshrc. - Now that you've installed tcsh, you can adjust your prompt. - You can find the details in the manual page for tcsh, but here + Now that you've installed tcsh, you can adjust your prompt. + You can find the details in the manual page for tcsh, but here is a line to put in your .tcshrc that will tell you how many commands you have typed, what time it is, and what directory you are in. It also produces a --- patch ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 16: 0:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB06337B40C for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8IN06k03805; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A8A37B440 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b036.otenet.gr [195.167.121.164]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8IMowH09639 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:50:58 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8IMowu04372; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:50:58 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon) Message-Id: <200109182250.f8IMowu04372@hades.hell.gr> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:50:58 +0300 (EEST) From: Giorgos Keramidas Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30658: add links for the official web pages of IRC networks described in the FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30658 >Category: docs >Synopsis: add links for the official web pages of IRC networks described in the FAQ >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 18 16:00:06 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Giorgos Keramidas >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD hades.hell.gr 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #5: Tue Sep 4 19:49:44 EEST 2001 root@hades.hell.gr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CHARON i386 >Description: The faq has a link for only one of the IRC network of which #freebsd and #freebsdhelp IRC channels are listed. The attached patch adds links to EFnet, DALnet and UNDERNET official home pages. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- patch-faq-irc begins here --- Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.262 diff -u -r1.262 book.sgml --- book.sgml 17 Sep 2001 04:28:29 -0000 1.262 +++ book.sgml 18 Sep 2001 21:45:39 -0000 @@ -495,20 +495,20 @@ Channel #FreeBSDhelp on - EFNet is a channel dedicated to helping FreeBSD users. They + EFNet is a channel dedicated to helping FreeBSD users. They are much more sympathetic to questions then #FreeBSD is. Channel #FreeBSD on - DALNET is available at irc.dal.net in the + DALNET is available at irc.dal.net in the US and irc.eu.dal.net in Europe. Channel #FreeBSD on - UNDERNET is available at us.undernet.org + UNDERNET is available at us.undernet.org in the US and eu.undernet.org in Europe. Since it is a help channel, be prepared to read the documents you are referred to. --- patch-faq-irc ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 16: 0:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA57537B410 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8IN06503814; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796D237B405 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b036.otenet.gr [195.167.121.164]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8IMrTH11641 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:53:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8IMrTB04505; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:53:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon) Message-Id: <200109182253.f8IMrTB04505@hades.hell.gr> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:53:29 +0300 (EEST) From: Giorgos Keramidas Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30659: change + in tags in the faq, instead of using literal '+' characters Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30659 >Category: docs >Synopsis: change + in tags in the faq, instead of using literal '+' characters >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 18 16:00:06 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Giorgos Keramidas >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD hades.hell.gr 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #5: Tue Sep 4 19:49:44 EEST 2001 root@hades.hell.gr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CHARON i386 >Description: There are places in the faq where a key combination is tagged with , and other places where two tags are joined with a literal `+' character. The attached patch remoces literal `+' chars and wraps the pair of tags in tags. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- patch-faq-keycombo begins here --- Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.262 diff -u -r1.262 book.sgml --- book.sgml 17 Sep 2001 04:28:29 -0000 1.262 +++ book.sgml 18 Sep 2001 21:57:51 -0000 @@ -698,8 +698,8 @@ Microsoft's Rich Text Format Page numbers are not automatically updated when loading this format in to Word. Press - CTRL+A, - CTRL+END, + CTRLA, + CTRLEND, F9 after loading the document, to update the page numbers. --- patch-faq-keycombo ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 16:10:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9607137B40A; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7E1C6AD72; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:40:01 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:40:01 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Chern Lee Cc: Bob Van Valzah , Murray Stokely , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Reviewers for Bootstrapping Vinum Doc Message-ID: <20010919084001.I5274@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3BA3BDD6.8060401@BGPBook.Com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from chern@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 01:23:57PM -0700 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 18 September 2001 at 13:23:57 -0700, Chern Lee wrote: > On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Bob Van Valzah wrote: > >> Ok, I have a document ready for your review. There's still a lot of >> "tweaking" I'd do given the luxury of time, but I wanted to get you and >> Greg something fast. It's about 25 pages. See http://www.BGPBook.Com/vinum/ >> >> Comments welcome! (But please do not pass the above URL out for other >> than review purposes). > > At a quick glance, your document looks great. There are serious issues with the method described. I've replied to Bob privately, and he's reworking it. Please don't use this text. > Greg, I know it's a lot to ask from your busy schedule, but do you > have any time to spare to have this reviewed by the end of the week? I've already done so. Due to the size, I didn't copy the list. > I'd like to get this into the Handbook ASAP, if at all possible. Not this version, please. > If this is too much to ask for from both of you, perhaps this effort > is best left for a later time--and the print edition can do without > vinum. It would be nice to get it in. Bob's working pretty hard on it, but it's a tight schedule. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 16:23:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E0037B401 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id f8INNhb85333 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:23:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:23:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Doug Denault X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 12.8.7 Which Backup Program Is Best? In-Reply-To: <20010912085018.X48793@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The link to "See torture-testing Backup and Archive Programs" points to a page that is gone. As of September 15, 2001, Reality.sgi.com has been discontinued. I tried searching Usenix archives and some other sources but could not find the paper. since it is 1991 maybe there is something more current. _____ Douglas Denault doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 20:27: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EF537B406; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8J3KLB47487; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:20:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:20:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109190320.f8J3KLB47487@freefall.freebsd.org> To: charon@labs.gr, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30655: change all *word* occurences to use instead in the FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: change all *word* occurences to use instead in the FAQ State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Tue Sep 18 20:20:15 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 20:27: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40F837B40A; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8J3P9G48000; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:25:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:25:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109190325.f8J3P9G48000@freefall.freebsd.org> To: charon@labs.gr, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30659: change + in tags in the faq, instead of using literal '+' characters Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: change + in tags in the faq, instead of using literal '+' characters State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Tue Sep 18 20:24:33 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks. I added "action='simul'" to the keycode tags. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30659 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 20:27: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4276B37B401; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8J3I6747255; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:18:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:18:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109190318.f8J3I6747255@freefall.freebsd.org> To: charon@labs.gr, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30656: correction of to in IRC channels question Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: correction of to in IRC channels question State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Tue Sep 18 20:17:57 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 20:36:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D01037B405; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8J3XXD49101; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:33:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:33:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109190333.f8J3XXD49101@freefall.freebsd.org> To: charon@labs.gr, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30658: add links for the official web pages of IRC networks described in the FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: add links for the official web pages of IRC networks described in the FAQ State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Tue Sep 18 20:33:25 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30658 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 20:49:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.whitebarn.com (Spin.whitebarn.com [216.0.13.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9782137B40A; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BGPBook.Com (Relent.Bob.whitebarn.com [216.0.13.50]) by smtp.whitebarn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA95239; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:49:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Bob@BGPBook.Com) Message-ID: <3BA815BA.2040105@BGPBook.Com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:49:14 -0500 From: Bob Van Valzah User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chern Lee Cc: Murray Stokely , Greg Lehey , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Reviewers for Bootstrapping Vinum Doc References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050707000307090703020205" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------050707000307090703020205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Glad you like it so far. Greg's comments on that version have been very helpful. His bootstrapping method is vastly simpler than the one I'd developed on my own. He's absolutely right about not rushing out with the text that you reviewed. I did the figures with xfig and translated them to eps with transfig. Maybe I missed an option? I don't have the full and current docproj port installed here and I can't claim to be an expert on markup or formatting. So I suspect that once I have the content complete, one of you DocBook and formatting experts can whip it into shape pronto. I think one of the three figures will go away in the next draft. I am still waiting on Greg for final clarification of a couple of points. I cranked out a lot last weekend and have adapted my head to use Greg's method. I'll have some time waiting at airports and on planes Wednesday and hope to be able to get another draft out for review by end of day. Thursday is booked solid, but I expect to have more time to incorporate reviewers' comments on Friday. I hope that can meet your schedule. Bob Chern Lee wrote: >At a quick glance, your document looks great. We'll have to do something >about the rotated images in the PostScript output. What are the original >source files for these images? > >It would make a great addition to the Handbook print edition, but I'm not >sure if we have the time. > >Greg, I know it's a lot to ask from your busy schedule, but do you have >any time to spare to have this reviewed by the end of the week? > >I'd like to get this into the Handbook ASAP, if at all possible. > >If this is too much to ask for from both of you, perhaps this effort is >best left for a later time--and the print edition can do without vinum. > >- chern > >On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Bob Van Valzah wrote: > >>Ok, I have a document ready for your review. There's still a lot of >>"tweaking" I'd do given the luxury of time, but I wanted to get you and >>Greg something fast. It's about 25 pages. See http://www.BGPBook.Com/vinum/ >> >>Comments welcome! (But please do not pass the above URL out for other >>than review purposes). >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bob >> > > --------------050707000307090703020205 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Glad you like it so far. Greg's comments on that version have been very helpful. His bootstrapping method is vastly simpler than the one I'd developed on my own. He's absolutely right about not rushing out with the text that you reviewed.

    I did the figures with xfig and translated them to eps with transfig. Maybe I missed an option? I don't have the full and current docproj port installed here and I can't claim to be an expert on markup or formatting. So I suspect that once I have the content complete,  one of you DocBook and formatting experts can whip it into shape pronto. I think one of the three figures will go away in the next draft.

    I am still waiting on Greg for final clarification of a couple of points. I cranked out a lot last weekend and have adapted my head to use Greg's method. I'll have some time waiting at airports and on planes Wednesday and hope to be able to get another draft out for review by end of day. Thursday is booked solid, but I expect to have more time to incorporate reviewers' comments on Friday. I hope that can meet your schedule.

        Bob

    Chern Lee wrote:
    At a quick glance, your document looks great.  We'll have to do something
    about the rotated images in the PostScript output.  What are the original
    source files for these images?

    It would make a great addition to the Handbook print edition, but I'm not
    sure if we have the time.

    Greg, I know it's a lot to ask from your busy schedule, but do you have
    any time to spare to have this reviewed by the end of the week?

    I'd like to get this into the Handbook ASAP, if at all possible.

    If this is too much to ask for from both of you, perhaps this effort is
    best left for a later time--and the print edition can do without vinum.

    - chern

    On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Bob Van Valzah wrote:

    Ok, I have a document ready for your review. There's still a lot of
    "tweaking" I'd do given the luxury of time, but I wanted to get you and
    Greg something fast. It's about 25 pages. See http://www.BGPBook.Com/vinum/

    Comments welcome! (But please do not pass the above URL out for other
    than review purposes).

        Thanks,

        Bob




    --------------050707000307090703020205-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 22: 0: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EC637B414 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8J500u58995; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:00:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09C437B412 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b105.otenet.gr [195.167.121.233]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8J4xiH10248 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:59:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8J4xhC17324; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:59:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon) Message-Id: <200109190459.f8J4xhC17324@hades.hell.gr> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:59:43 +0300 (EEST) From: Giorgos Keramidas Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30664: wrap an ftp url in tags, since it's the only one in the faq without Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30664 >Category: docs >Synopsis: wrap an ftp url in tags, since it's the only one in the faq without >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 18 22:00:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Giorgos Keramidas >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD hades.hell.gr 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #5: Tue Sep 4 19:49:44 EEST 2001 root@hades.hell.gr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CHARON i386 >Description: The attached patch adds a .. around a URL that was included as part of the running text. This makes for a very long (and unfortunately unbreakable) line, but it's the only URL in my version of the FAQ that is set as part of the paragraph text and not in a tag pair. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- patch-faq-ulink begins here --- Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.266 diff -u -r1.266 book.sgml --- book.sgml 19 Sep 2001 03:33:15 -0000 1.266 +++ book.sgml 19 Sep 2001 04:58:39 -0000 @@ -892,7 +892,7 @@ copy of the web site sources using your favorite ftp mirror tool. Keep in mind that you have to build these sources before publishing them. Simply start at - ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/www.     + ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/www.     --- patch-faq-ulink ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 22: 6:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F7237B419; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8J56ZH62699; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:06:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:06:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109190506.f8J56ZH62699@freefall.freebsd.org> To: charon@labs.gr, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30664: wrap an ftp url in tags, since it's the only one in the faq without Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: wrap an ftp url in tags, since it's the only one in the faq without State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Tue Sep 18 22:06:28 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30664 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 18 22:10:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3922837B41F for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seph ([24.43.137.212]) by femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010919051052.TSJU22533.femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com@seph> for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:10:52 -0700 Message-ID: <000701c140c9$fa1419b0$0200a8c0@seph> From: "Joseph Yuen" To: Subject: Thank you! Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:14:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a message just to thank you for making such a execellent handbook. I used to have linux in my system, but I found the documentations of linux are really bad. Many of the linux distributions share the same documents and that often makes the documents not specific enough. Now I've switched to freeBSD and I really enjoy looking up the handbook. Good Work! Keep it up! ^o^ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 2:20:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.ms-agentur.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE64D37B415 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 02:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.ms-agentur.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id LAA19504; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:29:29 +0200 Message-ID: <3BA8633C.6080401@i-clue.de> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:19:56 +0200 From: Christoph Sold User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; de-AT; rv:0.9.4+) Gecko/20010916 X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Denault Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 12.8.7 Which Backup Program Is Best? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Denault wrote: >The link to "See torture-testing Backup and Archive Programs" >points to a page that is gone. As of September 15, 2001, Reality.sgi.com >has been discontinued. > >I tried searching Usenix archives and some other sources but could not >find the paper. since it is 1991 maybe there is something more current. > The paper is still valid, since the mentioned applications have not changed much since then. It is still cached at google: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:wQa6mKyhx5E:reality.sgi.com/zwicky_neu/testdump.doc.html+torture-testing+Backup+and+Archive+Programs&hl=de Maybe we should ask permission to publish it on the FreeBSD website? HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 7:12:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3F337B416; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 434FD76; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:12:21 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:12:21 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: doc@freebsd.org, developers@freebsd.org Subject: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. Message-ID: <20010919151221.H13240@tao.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="73fGQZLCrFzENemP" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --73fGQZLCrFzENemP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Yesterday I discovered that the 'doc' subtree of the FreeBSD repository isn't having $FreeBSD$ revision checks performed on files as they are being checked in. I am guessing that this is an oversight due to the way that the CVSROOT/commit_check.pl script was hard-coded. After discussion with Nik Clayton last night we've decided to switch these checks on, which I intend to do later today. Those of you who commit in 'src' will already be familiar with the concept. For those of you who only commit to 'doc', you will now need to embed a '$FreeBSD$' tag somewhere in the file, usually in a comment line, before the repository will let you add a new file. Additionally there are checks to make sure that the revision string hasn't become corrupt when checking in a modification. This is to prevent accidental committing of a wrong version. Please feel free to ask if there are any problems. Regards, Joe --73fGQZLCrFzENemP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuop8QACgkQXVIcjOaxUBZDHQCgmgFaCyidB4S9eTY/k8i1xwRK amcAnio+bAZMHm5GBmLRxmYTaoizoPXT =kDti -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --73fGQZLCrFzENemP-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 7:19:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931CF37B40B; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8JEJNZ84529; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200109191419.f8JEJNZ84529@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Josef Karthauser Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. In-Reply-To: <20010919151221.H13240@tao.org.uk> References: <20010919151221.H13240@tao.org.uk> Comments: In-reply-to Josef Karthauser message dated "Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:12:21 +0100." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1010024134P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:19:23 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1010024134P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Josef Karthauser wrote: > Those of you who commit in 'src' will already be familiar with the > concept. For those of you who only commit to 'doc', you will now > need to embed a '$FreeBSD$' tag somewhere in the file, usually in > a comment line, before the repository will let you add a new file. > Additionally there are checks to make sure that the revision string > hasn't become corrupt when checking in a modification. This is to > prevent accidental committing of a wrong version. > > Please feel free to ask if there are any problems. Ummm...what about image files (.scr, etc.)? Bruce. --==_Exmh_1010024134P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7qKlq2MoxcVugUsMRAmKfAJ9us7lv5Gahqc5rIDyKSKbKOXCM0gCgvQX8 mvuDAGj9I+kmUd3Xfb+MogY= =42qj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1010024134P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 7:24:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4659A37B41C; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15jiGu-0006Cn-00; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:24:16 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: bmah@FreeBSD.org Cc: Josef Karthauser , doc@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:19:23 MST." <200109191419.f8JEJNZ84529@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:24:16 +0200 Message-ID: <23856.1000909456@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:19:23 MST, "Bruce A. Mah" wrote: > Ummm...what about image files (.scr, etc.)? Binary files should always be uuencoded so that the resulting files can be given a leading line that contains $FreeBSD$ and will be ignored. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 7:47:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4556637B408; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id C8D6A232; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:47:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:47:30 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. Message-ID: <20010919154730.I13240@tao.org.uk> References: <200109191419.f8JEJNZ84529@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <23856.1000909456@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oY1uq2ONqt5kuovO" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <23856.1000909456@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za>; from sheldonh@starjuice.net on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 04:24:16PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --oY1uq2ONqt5kuovO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 04:24:16PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:19:23 MST, "Bruce A. Mah" wrote: >=20 > > Ummm...what about image files (.scr, etc.)? >=20 > Binary files should always be uuencoded so that the resulting files can > be given a leading line that contains $FreeBSD$ and will be ignored. >=20 If you do have any files that shouldn't have $FreeBSD$ in them that can be specified in CVSROOT/exclude. Joe --oY1uq2ONqt5kuovO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuosAIACgkQXVIcjOaxUBZgigCgm8afhLu5bD9O519JlbzixXyb L+MAn21u8BCkkhwL3apVM5D+LiciP3En =O2Ig -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oY1uq2ONqt5kuovO-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 7:52:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7833F37B410; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f8JEp1i04325; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:51:01 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:51:01 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Josef Karthauser , bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, developers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. Message-ID: <20010919175101.C884@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 04:24:16PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:19:23 MST, "Bruce A. Mah" wrote: > > > Ummm...what about image files (.scr, etc.)? > > Binary files should always be uuencoded so that the resulting files can > be given a leading line that contains $FreeBSD$ and will be ignored. > Why? cvs(1) can handle binary files pretty well with -kb. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 7:55:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAC137B40C; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8JEtcd84962; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:55:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200109191455.f8JEtcd84962@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Sheldon Hearn , bmah@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. In-Reply-To: <20010919154730.I13240@tao.org.uk> References: <200109191419.f8JEJNZ84529@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <23856.1000909456@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20010919154730.I13240@tao.org.uk> Comments: In-reply-to Josef Karthauser message dated "Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:47:30 +0100." From: bmah@FreeBSD.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1301579970P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:55:38 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1301579970P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 04:24:16PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:19:23 MST, "Bruce A. Mah" wrote: > > > Ummm...what about image files (.scr, etc.)? > > Binary files should always be uuencoded so that the resulting files can > > be given a leading line that contains $FreeBSD$ and will be ignored. > If you do have any files that shouldn't have $FreeBSD$ in them that can > be specified in CVSROOT/exclude. There's 58 screenshot files (in the handbook's install guide) and about 25 eps files in the doc/ tree. I'd rather permit these to remain "as is" rather than add a bunch of infrastructure to deal with uudecoding, plus all the conversions in the repository. (OK, it's not my decision, but you get the idea.....) Thanks, Bruce. --==_Exmh_1301579970P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7qLHp2MoxcVugUsMRAhf8AJ47IhgiPcz2GQAEZQB7fh3b6eQTEQCgi0Fp SeNB4PcUFxAqH4NJfvV3l7c= =gMzu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1301579970P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 7:57:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF1637B41B; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 3EE52C3; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:57:21 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:57:21 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Sheldon Hearn , doc@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. Message-ID: <20010919155721.L13240@tao.org.uk> References: <200109191419.f8JEJNZ84529@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <23856.1000909456@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20010919154730.I13240@tao.org.uk> <200109191455.f8JEtcd84962@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="31zvzas5NXT9fief" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200109191455.f8JEtcd84962@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:55:38AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --31zvzas5NXT9fief Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:55:38AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Josef Karthauser wrote: >=20 > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 04:24:16PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:19:23 MST, "Bruce A. Mah" wrote: > > > > Ummm...what about image files (.scr, etc.)? >=20 > > > Binary files should always be uuencoded so that the resulting files c= an > > > be given a leading line that contains $FreeBSD$ and will be ignored. >=20 > > If you do have any files that shouldn't have $FreeBSD$ in them that can > > be specified in CVSROOT/exclude. >=20 > There's 58 screenshot files (in the handbook's install guide) and about > 25 eps files in the doc/ tree. I'd rather permit these to remain "as > is" rather than add a bunch of infrastructure to deal with uudecoding,=20 > plus all the conversions in the repository. >=20 > (OK, it's not my decision, but you get the idea.....) The exclude file already contains: ^src/.*\.ps Are they .ps or .eps? I'll add a: ^doc/.*\.ps too at the same time if you want. Are there any other files that are binary? Joe --31zvzas5NXT9fief Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuoslAACgkQXVIcjOaxUBYSlACeM7vd0rDzTPJufj73wzaLEAhf YiEAnRhCjRHwWYNYSZ7IBCG4QG/BdOmz =j/X+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --31zvzas5NXT9fief-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 7:58: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (ns.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86D637B41B; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ark.cris.net (ns2.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03516; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:57:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f8JEvDo91055; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:57:13 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:57:13 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: Sheldon Hearn , Josef Karthauser , bmah@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. Message-ID: <20010919175713.A89970@ark.cris.net> References: <20010919175101.C884@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20010919175101.C884@sunbay.com>; from ru@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 05:51:01PM +0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 05:51:01PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > Ummm...what about image files (.scr, etc.)? > > > > Binary files should always be uuencoded so that the resulting files can > > be given a leading line that contains $FreeBSD$ and will be ignored. > > > Why? cvs(1) can handle binary files pretty well with -kb. As I recall correctly having uuencoded binary files in src/ tree was declared by policy. But there's no such policy for www/ and doc/ trees. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 8: 0:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7931D37B401; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15jipg-0006Ng-00; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:00:12 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: Josef Karthauser , bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, developers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:51:01 +0300." <20010919175101.C884@sunbay.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:00:12 +0200 Message-ID: <24531.1000911612@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:51:01 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > Why? cvs(1) can handle binary files pretty well with -kb. I was just spouting old wives tales told to me by project cronies. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 8: 0:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (ns.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F24337B40F; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ark.cris.net (ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04063; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:00:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f8JExYH91450; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:59:34 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:59:34 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Josef Karthauser , Sheldon Hearn , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, developers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. Message-ID: <20010919175934.B89970@ark.cris.net> References: <200109191419.f8JEJNZ84529@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <23856.1000909456@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20010919154730.I13240@tao.org.uk> <200109191455.f8JEtcd84962@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200109191455.f8JEtcd84962@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:55:38AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:55:38AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > > Ummm...what about image files (.scr, etc.)? > > > > Binary files should always be uuencoded so that the resulting files can > > > be given a leading line that contains $FreeBSD$ and will be ignored. > > > If you do have any files that shouldn't have $FreeBSD$ in them that can > > be specified in CVSROOT/exclude. > > There's 58 screenshot files (in the handbook's install guide) and about > 25 eps files in the doc/ tree. I'd rather permit these to remain "as > is" rather than add a bunch of infrastructure to deal with uudecoding, > plus all the conversions in the repository. > > (OK, it's not my decision, but you get the idea.....) Having $FreeBSD$ in all text files (sgml, etc) is quite useful for translation teams to track changes. I think we need to have it enabled, but add wildcards for all kinds of images and binary files to 'exclude' list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 8:11:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2B737B410; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8JFB4E85280; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200109191511.f8JFB4E85280@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Josef Karthauser Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Sheldon Hearn , doc@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. In-Reply-To: <20010919155721.L13240@tao.org.uk> References: <200109191419.f8JEJNZ84529@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <23856.1000909456@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20010919154730.I13240@tao.org.uk> <200109191455.f8JEtcd84962@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <20010919155721.L13240@tao.org.uk> Comments: In-reply-to Josef Karthauser message dated "Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:57:21 +0100." From: bmah@FreeBSD.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1750692128P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:11:04 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1750692128P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > There's 58 screenshot files (in the handbook's install guide) and about > > 25 eps files in the doc/ tree. I'd rather permit these to remain "as > > is" rather than add a bunch of infrastructure to deal with uudecoding,=20 > > plus all the conversions in the repository. > >=20 > > (OK, it's not my decision, but you get the idea.....) > > The exclude file already contains: > > ^src/.*\.ps > > Are they .ps or .eps? I'll add a: > > ^doc/.*\.ps > > too at the same time if you want. > > Are there any other files that are binary? I think we would be covered with: ^doc/.*\.eps ^doc/.*\.png ^doc/.*\.scr The first two are the preferred formats for images in doc/ according to the FDP, and the latter is the screenshot format. As far as I know there shouldn't be any other binary files (tentatively verified by find(1)). Thanks! Bruce. --==_Exmh_1750692128P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7qLWH2MoxcVugUsMRAvkTAKDktura43s/hYAOjMr7jsXaD9GfrwCg1omp twgnOPSyYvfBngSF4CkaTp0= =ccqT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1750692128P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 8:12:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987F237B40D; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 490AA123; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:12:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:12:33 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Sheldon Hearn , doc@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. Message-ID: <20010919161233.P13240@tao.org.uk> References: <200109191419.f8JEJNZ84529@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <23856.1000909456@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20010919154730.I13240@tao.org.uk> <200109191455.f8JEtcd84962@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <20010919155721.L13240@tao.org.uk> <200109191511.f8JFB4E85280@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XMM+kVNHGkMezEqK" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200109191511.f8JFB4E85280@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 08:11:04AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --XMM+kVNHGkMezEqK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 08:11:04AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > Are there any other files that are binary? >=20 > I think we would be covered with: >=20 > ^doc/.*\.eps > ^doc/.*\.png > ^doc/.*\.scr >=20 > The first two are the preferred formats for images in doc/ according to= =20 > the FDP, and the latter is the screenshot format. As far as I know=20 > there shouldn't be any other binary files (tentatively verified by=20 > find(1)). >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Bruce. Ok. I'll go ahead an commit this and remove '^doc/' in the next few hours unless there are anymore objections. Joe --XMM+kVNHGkMezEqK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuoteAACgkQXVIcjOaxUBZlMgCgg5qWluUpkUw1XpaJTSMOG578 B7UAoIGA6MSCUq+eqRxMWk7FqJFxt/sy =7xsd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XMM+kVNHGkMezEqK-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 8:29:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from platon.ftpresse.fr (platon.ftpresse.fr [62.161.229.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992BA37B40B for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by PLATON with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:29:43 +0200 Message-ID: <2D12B1AA92E8D411A05100B0D0AA0CB2805C15@PLATON> From: Pierre Fontaine To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Translation ? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:29:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good morning or afternoon or whatever... I just write a quick, even if my motivation is not as light as this mail, cause I would really love to join one of your translation teams. I would of course translate from English to French as I am a poor French ;) I really care about your project, as I care about all free mind projects in the world. So please let me know if I can help you in any kind of work. Sincerely yours, Pierre F. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 8:58:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from survis.surfnet.nl (survis.surfnet.nl [192.87.108.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D218037B405 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zuurtje.surfnet.nl ([192.87.109.5]) by survis.surfnet.nl with ESMTP (exPP) for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG id 15jjju-0000fD-00; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:58:18 +0200 Received: from surfnet.nl (secans.surfnet.nl [192.87.109.62]) by zuurtje.surfnet.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3/ZUURTJE-0.8) with ESMTP id RAA25112 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:58:18 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3BA8C0B7.2478B0E2@surfnet.nl> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:58:47 +0200 From: Ivana Belgers-van Overmeeren Organization: SURFnet bv X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: Dutch, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Error on WEb-page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I wanted to view the contents of http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.4R/notes.html, but all I got was an error: ==== FreeBSD.org - Document not found The file http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.4R/docbook.css ==== If I look in the source code, I find: Netscape does not want to show me files that link to a .css file that does not exist. If I understand correctly, this is the mailinglist to which I should address such errors, please correct me if I am wrong. Cheers, Ivana To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 10:20:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pemaquid.safeport.com (pemaquid.safeport.com [204.156.12.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15A837B408 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by pemaquid.safeport.com (8.11.5/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8JHKnr75072; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:20:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pemaquid.safeport.com: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:20:49 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Christoph Sold Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 12.8.7 Which Backup Program Is Best? In-Reply-To: <3BA8633C.6080401@i-clue.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think that would be great. I could not find any of the latter sections (2-5) of the paper. Encouraging people to do backups is a good thing :) On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Christoph Sold wrote: > Doug Denault wrote: > > >The link to "See torture-testing Backup and Archive Programs" > >points to a page that is gone. As of September 15, 2001, Reality.sgi.com > >has been discontinued. > > > >I tried searching Usenix archives and some other sources but could not > >find the paper. since it is 1991 maybe there is something more current. > > > The paper is still valid, since the mentioned applications have not > changed much since then. It is still cached at google: > http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:wQa6mKyhx5E:reality.sgi.com/zwicky_neu/testdump.doc.html+torture-testing+Backup+and+Archive+Programs&hl=de > Maybe we should ask permission to publish it on the FreeBSD website? > > HTH > -Christoph Sold > > > _____ Douglas Denault doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 10:50: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DD137B418 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8JHo1e38469; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mail.wlcg.com (mail.wlcg.com [198.92.199.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82DA37B41B for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rsimmons@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8JHexc62581; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:40:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rsimmons) Message-Id: <200109191740.f8JHexc62581@mail.wlcg.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:40:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Simmons Reply-To: Rob Simmons To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30671: Documentation change in standard-supfile example Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30671 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Documentation change in standard-supfile example >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Sep 19 10:50:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rob Simmons >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-RC i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD mail 4.4-RC FreeBSD 4.4-RC #0: Tue Aug 21 19:07:27 EDT 2001 rsimmons@mail:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WASABI i386 >Description: The standard-supfile example file for cvsup has a little error in it about the export restricted src collections. I have attached a patch to fix the problem. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: --- share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile Wed Apr 11 17:50:13 2001 +++ /tmp/standard-supfile Wed Sep 19 13:36:30 2001 @@ -60,8 +60,7 @@ ## Main Source Tree. # # The easiest way to get the main source tree is to use the "src-all" -# mega-collection. It includes all of the individual "src-*" collections, -# except the export-restricted collections. +# mega-collection. It includes all of the individual "src-*" collections. src-all # These are the individual collections that make up "src-all". If you >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 11: 5:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C4A37B40C for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8JI5aR86817; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:05:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200109191805.f8JI5aR86817@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Ivana Belgers-van Overmeeren Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Error on WEb-page In-Reply-To: <3BA8C0B7.2478B0E2@surfnet.nl> References: <3BA8C0B7.2478B0E2@surfnet.nl> Comments: In-reply-to Ivana Belgers-van Overmeeren message dated "Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:58:47 +0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-754385232P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:05:36 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-754385232P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Ivana Belgers-van Overmeeren wrote: > I wanted to view the contents of > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.4R/notes.html, but all I got was an > error: > > ==== > FreeBSD.org - Document not found > > The file > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.4R/docbook.css > ==== > If I look in the source code, I find: > > > Netscape does not want to show me files that link to a .css file that > does not exist. OK. I put a copy of the file in question in this directory, and it should get propagated to the Web site the next time it's rebuilt. This might not be the right long-term solution, but for now it should make things render correctly. > If I understand correctly, this is the mailinglist to which I should > address such errors, please correct me if I am wrong. Either this list or freebsd-www@. Thanks for pointing out the problem! Bruce. --==_Exmh_-754385232P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7qN5w2MoxcVugUsMRArJSAKCc3l6/sKv+FeHzzgTI4tIB/9v3EgCeO2Wr pUrlO/ALKKufLR3DmT0vbFU= =pQUi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-754385232P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 11:14:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E97337B41C; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id C06AB232; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:14:03 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:14:03 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Sheldon Hearn , doc@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. Message-ID: <20010919191403.I13240@tao.org.uk> References: <200109191419.f8JEJNZ84529@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <23856.1000909456@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20010919154730.I13240@tao.org.uk> <200109191455.f8JEtcd84962@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <20010919155721.L13240@tao.org.uk> <200109191511.f8JFB4E85280@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9H9VVCLI5QJPfUsZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200109191511.f8JFB4E85280@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 08:11:04AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --9H9VVCLI5QJPfUsZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 08:11:04AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: >=20 > I think we would be covered with: >=20 > ^doc/.*\.eps > ^doc/.*\.png > ^doc/.*\.scr >=20 > The first two are the preferred formats for images in doc/ according to= =20 > the FDP, and the latter is the screenshot format. As far as I know=20 > there shouldn't be any other binary files (tentatively verified by=20 > find(1)). 'Tis done. Joe --9H9VVCLI5QJPfUsZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuo4GoACgkQXVIcjOaxUBaIKgCgty+YzFyMTENaOfdaccfOqO3K 7fkAniw0BSwpB4su8FDearHouo7mHUNv =khBH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9H9VVCLI5QJPfUsZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 11:21: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE4137B408 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8JIJZO10611; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:19:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: ivana.belgers@surfnet.nl Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error on WEb-page In-Reply-To: <3BA8C0B7.2478B0E2@surfnet.nl> References: <3BA8C0B7.2478B0E2@surfnet.nl> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010919111935W.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:19:35 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 31 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The web update failed at 5am for some unknown reason. I'm running it by hand to see what's up. > Hi, > > I wanted to view the contents of > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.4R/notes.html, but all I got was an > error: > > ==== > FreeBSD.org - Document not found > > The file > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.4R/docbook.css > ==== > If I look in the source code, I find: > > > Netscape does not want to show me files that link to a .css file that > does not exist. > > If I understand correctly, this is the mailinglist to which I should > address such errors, please correct me if I am wrong. > > > Cheers, > Ivana > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 12: 0:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3976137B410 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8JJ0B064715; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from aurora.regenstrief.org (aurora.regenstrief.org [134.68.31.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAD337B419 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from schadow@localhost) by aurora.regenstrief.org (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f8JIvbD89240; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:57:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from schadow) Message-Id: <200109191857.f8JIvbD89240@aurora.regenstrief.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:57:37 -0500 (EST) From: schadow@gusw.net Reply-To: schadow@gusw.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/30674: burncd(8) man page doesn't document "erase" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30674 >Category: docs >Synopsis: burncd(8) man page doesn't document "erase" >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Sep 19 12:00:06 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gunther Schadow >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Regenstrief Institute >Environment: >Description: burncd(8) has a command "erase" that is not documented in the manual. It's pretty clear what it is, so this is not a critical bug at all. Just thought I'd let you know. >How-To-Repeat: $ man burncd $ burncd erase >Fix: Add this to the burncd.8 man source: .It Ar erase Erase all data on a CD-RW medium. This uses the complete blanking method, so data are physically overwritten. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 13:32: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAAC37B403; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id f8JKVgG32756; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:31:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:31:41 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Josef Karthauser Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Sheldon Hearn , doc@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. Message-ID: <20010919133141.B32665@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <200109191419.f8JEJNZ84529@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <23856.1000909456@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20010919154730.I13240@tao.org.uk> <200109191455.f8JEtcd84962@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <20010919155721.L13240@tao.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010919155721.L13240@tao.org.uk>; from joe@tao.org.uk on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:57:21PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:57:21PM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > There's 58 screenshot files (in the handbook's install guide) and about > > 25 eps files in the doc/ tree. I'd rather permit these to remain "as EPS files are 7-bit ASCII and have a comment field. Why cannot "% $FreeBSD$" be added to the head of them? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 14:18:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web20405.mail.yahoo.com (web20405.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C827D37B40E for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010919211804.29586.qmail@web20405.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.179.131.168] by web20405.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:18:04 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:18:04 -0700 (PDT) From: a a Subject: hebrew translation to free bsd To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org is there one? can I create and/or help ? __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 14:20: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E931337B418 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3509FBCFC; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06413; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:19:59 -0700 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8JLJIh47836; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:19:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Wouter Van Hemel Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help References: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 19 Sep 2001 14:19:16 -0700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wouter Van Hemel writes: > Hello, > > I'd like to contribute to freebsd - long-term even if the response is > good. I'm not much of a c-programmer (my c-skills suck seriously), but I > know lots of admin'ing *nix systems, graphic design, html, perl, shell > scripting, etc, as long as I don't actually have to write c :) > > So, I first turn to this list to inquire if any help is needed. > > I've already a short section about keys and inputrc in mind (I get asked > often about that)... Any comments? Yeah: I'm suprised nobody has responded already. Maybe they've gone off-list. I'm just a recent convert but here's my suggestions: One of the most important things about an OS is the quality of its documentation as that has a lot to do with the amount of time required by users to accomplish a task they set out to do. FreeBSD has relatively good documentation, but it could be MUCH better. You almost can't go wrong tackling any documentation project you stumble across. You might get your feet wet by reading some documentation Problem Reports (PRs) at the web site and developing some patches to implement a fix. You can get help on this list, of course. If you're looking for heavier-duty work, you can learn how to mark up and build the formal documentation and help with that. Or, you might investigate The Meta Project which seems to need some help developing a tool to help users locate information/documentation, a thing which would greatly advance the ease of use of the system if it works out. (I suspect that it uses mostly scripting code.) People have a tough time finding the good info that they already have on their systems (or out on the net). http://www.freebsdzine.org/200103/ http://cantaforda.com/Meta/ http://www.cfcl.com/twiki/bin/view/Meta The FreeBSD Handbook and the Documentation Project part of the web site have more suggestions, if you missed those. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 14:37:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bfm.org (mail.bfm.org [216.127.218.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E4637B413; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WhizKid (r11.bfm.org [216.127.220.107]) by mail.bfm.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52399U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id org; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:42:22 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010919163706.0088ed80@mail85.pair.com> X-Sender: whizkid@mail85.pair.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:37:06 -0500 To: obrien@FreeBSD.org, Josef Karthauser From: "G. Adam Stanislav" Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20010919133141.B32665@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20010919155721.L13240@tao.org.uk> <200109191419.f8JEJNZ84529@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <23856.1000909456@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20010919154730.I13240@tao.org.uk> <200109191455.f8JEtcd84962@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <20010919155721.L13240@tao.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 13:31 2001-09-19 -0700, David O'Brien wrote: >On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:57:21PM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: >> > There's 58 screenshot files (in the handbook's install guide) and about >> > 25 eps files in the doc/ tree. I'd rather permit these to remain "as > >EPS files are 7-bit ASCII and have a comment field. >Why cannot "% $FreeBSD$" be added to the head of them? As long as it is not the very first line of the file, there is no reason why it could not. Cheers, Adam --- http://www.whizkidtech.net/goldmine/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 14:45: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (s206m1.whistle.com [207.76.206.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E85A37B409; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [207.76.207.129] (PBG4.whistle.com [207.76.207.129]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA23793; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mark-ml@207.76.206.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010919133141.B32665@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200109191419.f8JEJNZ84529@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <23856.1000909456@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20010919154730.I13240@tao.org.uk> <200109191455.f8JEtcd84962@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <20010919155721.L13240@tao.org.uk> <20010919133141.B32665@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:43:29 -0700 To: obrien@FreeBSD.org, Josef Karthauser From: Mark Peek Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Sheldon Hearn , doc@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 1:31 PM -0700 9/19/01, David O'Brien wrote: >On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:57:21PM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: >> > There's 58 screenshot files (in the handbook's install guide) and about >> > 25 eps files in the doc/ tree. I'd rather permit these to remain "as > >EPS files are 7-bit ASCII and have a comment field. >Why cannot "% $FreeBSD$" be added to the head of them? It is recommended for EPS documents to be 7-bit but not required. You might be able to get away with adding a comment right after the initial header but you have to be careful not to screw up things such as the PostScript Document Structuring Conventions (DSC), line terminations (CR, LF, CRLF, LFCR), etc. Also, some EPS editors may not maintain the comment across edits which would require more hackery in the cvs code to ensure there is always a valid tag. Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 14:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9386037B419 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8JLo0e10274; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABFA37B408 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8JLlPO09970; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:47:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200109192147.f8JLlPO09970@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:47:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eugene M. Kim" To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/30675: `noatime' should be discouraged on /var as well Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30675 >Category: docs >Synopsis: `noatime' should be discouraged on /var as well >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Sep 19 14:50:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Eugene M. Kim >Release: 4.4-RC >Organization: NTT Multimedia Communications Laboratories, Inc. >Environment: FreeBSD technopolis.nttmcl.com 4.4-RC FreeBSD 4.4-RC #1: Thu Sep 13 23:54:40 PDT 2001 root@technopolis.nttmcl.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/TECHNOPOLIS i386 >Description: tuning(7) manpage says that `noatime' mount option should not be used for / and /usr filesystems as some system utilities rely on correct access timestamps. This should be extended to /var as well, because /var typically contains mailboxes, whose access and modification timestamps are used to determine arrival of new mail. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 15: 6:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDED037B408; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id f8JM6Aq33889; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:06:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:06:10 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mark Peek Cc: Josef Karthauser , "Bruce A. Mah" , Sheldon Hearn , doc@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] $FreeBSD$ checks in /home/ncvs/doc. Message-ID: <20010919150610.B33682@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <200109191419.f8JEJNZ84529@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <23856.1000909456@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20010919154730.I13240@tao.org.uk> <200109191455.f8JEtcd84962@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <20010919155721.L13240@tao.org.uk> <20010919133141.B32665@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mark@whistle.com on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:43:29PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:43:29PM -0700, Mark Peek wrote: > terminations (CR, LF, CRLF, LFCR), etc. Also, some EPS editors may > not maintain the comment across edits which would require more > hackery in the cvs code to ensure there is always a valid tag. UUENCODE certainly does not maintain the $FreeBSD$ headers I have to put in the uuencoded compat libs when I update them. It isn't that much trouble to add the $FreeBSD$'s each time. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 18: 0: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D72C37B425 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8K102x73373; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109200100.f8K102x73373@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Chern Lee Subject: Re: docs/30675: `noatime' should be discouraged on /var as well Reply-To: Chern Lee Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/30675; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Chern Lee To: "Eugene M. Kim" Cc: Subject: Re: docs/30675: `noatime' should be discouraged on /var as well Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:52:32 -0700 (PDT) A quick grep -Ri "atime" /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/ shows that sendmail does not use file atime's for any operations. Mail program often use *modification timestamps* (mtime), which is not changed by the noatime option. Generally speaking, mtime is updated every time a file's contents is changed, atime is changed whenever a file is accessed. If my memory serves me correctly, postfix does not make use of atime either--I safely run a postfix server with noatime enabled on /var. - chern To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 20: 0:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC52137B409 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8K303S26509; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109200300.f8K303S26509@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Eugene M. Kim" Subject: Re: docs/30675: `noatime' should be discouraged on /var as well Reply-To: "Eugene M. Kim" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/30675; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Eugene M. Kim" To: Chern Lee Cc: "Eugene M. Kim" , freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/30675: `noatime' should be discouraged on /var as well Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:55:41 -0700 Chern, Your observation is correct. Sendmail does not explicitly manipulate the mtime nor the atime. What happens is, when sendmail has something to deliver to a mailbox, it just opens the mailbox file as write-only. This operation updates only the mtime of the mailbox, and its atime is preserved. Result: the mailbox now has an mtime more recent than its atime, which is the indication of new mail. See also tcsh(1), under the description of `mail' variable. Regards, Eugene A mail-reader resets that condition by reading from the mailbox. On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 05:52:32PM -0700, Chern Lee wrote: > A quick grep -Ri "atime" /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/ shows that sendmail > does not use file atime's for any operations. Mail program often use > *modification timestamps* (mtime), which is not changed by the noatime > option. > > Generally speaking, mtime is updated every time a file's contents is > changed, atime is changed whenever a file is accessed. > > If my memory serves me correctly, postfix does not make use of atime > either--I safely run a postfix server with noatime enabled on /var. > > - chern > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 23:47:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4369637B407; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8K6l2K31599; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:47:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:47:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109200647.f8K6l2K31599@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rsimmons@mail.wlcg.com, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ru@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/30671: Documentation change in standard-supfile example Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Documentation change in standard-supfile example State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Wed Sep 19 23:46:11 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! Will MFC shortly. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ru Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Sep 19 23:46:11 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30671 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 23:55: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [217.68.117.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797DA37B425 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kjetil-h@localhost) by freenix.no (8.11.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8K6t3369785 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:55:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kjetil-h@freenix.no) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:55:02 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kjetil_H=F8ie?= To: Subject: books/handbook/dns.html Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I just discovered a link that doesn't work.. under: 17.9.11 Further Reading RFC1035 - Domain Names - Implementation and Specification Points to: http://info.internet.isi.edu:80/in-notes/rfc/files/rfc1035.txt You may find it here: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1035.txt Yours -Kjetil To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 19 23:57:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CE837B41A; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8K6uOK35989; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:56:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:56:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109200656.f8K6uOK35989@freefall.freebsd.org> To: schadow@gusw.net, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30674: burncd(8) man page doesn't document "erase" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: burncd(8) man page doesn't document "erase" State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Wed Sep 19 23:54:55 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: The version of the burncd.8 manpage distributed with the 4.3-RELEASE (1.6.2.3) has the "erase" command documented. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30674 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 2: 2: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2455A37B419 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f8K91xn25350 ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:01:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id LAA32864 ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:01:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:01:58 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Pierre Fontaine Cc: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Re: Translation ? Message-ID: <20010920110158.B32286@lpt.ens.fr> References: <2D12B1AA92E8D411A05100B0D0AA0CB2805C15@PLATON> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <2D12B1AA92E8D411A05100B0D0AA0CB2805C15@PLATON>; from fontaine@ftpresse.fr on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 05:29:42PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Pierre Fontaine said on Sep 19, 2001 at 17:29:42: > Good morning or afternoon or whatever... > > I just write a quick, even if my motivation is not as light as this mail, > cause I would really love to join one of your translation teams. I would of > course translate from English to French as I am a poor French ;) > I really care about your project, as I care about all free mind projects in > the world. > So please let me know if I can help you in any kind of work. The French version of the handbook seems pretty out of date. I had a look and there is an email address of a French FreeBSD translation team given there -- have you tried contacting them? I don't know the official situation: I'm new on the -doc myself; the main doc guys seem to be busy right now (handbook publication deadlines, etc). Anyway, if no activity is going on, I'd say it would be useful to start. I'd like to help but I'm not sure to what extent: I can read French but can't really write it, at least not grammatically... - Rahul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 4:10:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aeon.tvd.be (aeon.tvd.be [195.162.196.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5590C37B401 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 04:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cocaine.cryolabs.net (cable-213-132-151-215.upc.chello.be [213.132.151.215]) by aeon.tvd.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/RELAY-1.1) with ESMTP id NAA27132; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:10:14 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:08:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Wouter Van Hemel To: Pierre Fontaine , Rahul Siddharthan Cc: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Re: Translation ? In-Reply-To: <20010920110158.B32286@lpt.ens.fr> Message-ID: PGP: 0B B4 BC 28 53 62 FE 94 6A 57 EE B8 A6 E2 1B E4 (0xAA5412F0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > Pierre Fontaine said on Sep 19, 2001 at 17:29:42: > > Good morning or afternoon or whatever... > > > > I just write a quick, even if my motivation is not as light as this mail, > > cause I would really love to join one of your translation teams. I would of > > course translate from English to French as I am a poor French ;) > > I really care about your project, as I care about all free mind projects in > > the world. > > So please let me know if I can help you in any kind of work. > > The French version of the handbook seems pretty out of date. > I had a look and there is an email address of a French FreeBSD > translation team given there > -- have you tried contacting them? > > I don't know the official situation: I'm new on the -doc myself; the > main doc guys seem to be busy right now (handbook publication > deadlines, etc). Anyway, if no activity is going on, I'd say it would > be useful to start. I'd like to help but I'm not sure to what extent: > I can read French but can't really write it, at least not > grammatically... > Same here, my French isn't good enough to really write in it, especially not technical language. But if you need anything reviewed or if I can help you out a bit, let me know... Likewise, if anybody thinks there's use for a Dutch translation (this is probably rather useless), speak up... But on the whole I think I'll stick to English, and maybe learning those sgml tags to faciliate things. Any pointers to specific info on those? > - Rahul > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > / wouter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 4:14:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFA537B41D for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 04:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f8KBEFn39477 ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:14:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id NAA38980 ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:14:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:14:15 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Wouter Van Hemel Cc: Pierre Fontaine , "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Re: Translation ? Message-ID: <20010920131415.F32286@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20010920110158.B32286@lpt.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from wvhemel@vub.ac.be on Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 01:08:52PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wouter Van Hemel said on Sep 20, 2001 at 13:08:52: > > But on the whole I think I'll stick to English, and maybe learning those > sgml tags to faciliate things. Any pointers to specific info on those? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html - Rahul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 7:24:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns0.ovh.net (b1.ovh.net [213.186.33.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D246A37B40A for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:24:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4546 invoked by uid 503); 20 Sep 2001 14:24:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zen) (217.109.162.29) by mail2.ha.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Sep 2001 14:24:21 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c141e0$1e1de540$0a00a8c0@zen> From: "Philippe Bourcier" To: Subject: sysctl Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:25:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am willing to make a documentation about all sysctl values (one by one, their options and their use) so people can understand and tune better their system. Is that something already being done? Does that sound interesting (to me it sounds like it is, but then it's my idea...)? Sincerely, Philippe Bourcier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 7:53:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from postfix2-2.free.fr (postfix2-2.free.fr [213.228.0.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C567E37B408 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo (dijon-36-175.dial.proxad.net [212.27.36.175]) by postfix2-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD935F966; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:53:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stephane@localhost) by sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo (8.11.5/8.11.1) id f8KEk2x01677; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:46:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stephane) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:46:02 +0200 From: Stephane Legrand To: Pierre Fontaine Cc: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Re: Translation ? Message-ID: <20010920164602.B619@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> Reply-To: Stephane.Legrand@bigfoot.com References: <2D12B1AA92E8D411A05100B0D0AA0CB2805C15@PLATON> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <2D12B1AA92E8D411A05100B0D0AA0CB2805C15@PLATON>; from fontaine@ftpresse.fr on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 05:29:42PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 05:29:42PM +0200, Pierre Fontaine wrote: > Good morning or afternoon or whatever... > > I just write a quick, even if my motivation is not as light as this mail, > cause I would really love to join one of your translation teams. I would of > course translate from English to French as I am a poor French ;) > I really care about your project, as I care about all free mind projects in > the world. > So please let me know if I can help you in any kind of work. Hello, Please take a look at http://www.freebsd-fr.org/ and especially http://www.freebsd-fr.org/local-fr/www/spec/contacts.html and http://www.freebsd-fr.org/local-fr/www/spec/etat-trad-www.html if you are interested by the translation of the web pages. Stephane Legrand. -- Je recherche un emploi dans le domaine de l'informatique : PHP, Perl, SQL, FreeBSD, Linux, Internet... C.V. : http://stephleg.free.fr/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 7:55:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A12937B40E; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8KEtJX27060; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:55:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200109201455.f8KEtJX27060@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org Subject: RFC: Web site changes for multiple relnotes files From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-978236156P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:55:19 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-978236156P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi folks-- Could someone skim over this Web site patch? I'd like to commit it later today (California time) if possible. As has been (very correctly) pointed out to me, we should make available the alpha architecture release notes for 4.4-RELEASE on the Web site. There's a very little bit of XSL/SGML infrastructure changes needed to support multiple release notes files (with some attempt at backward compatability). A patch for this is appended below, assuming the following additional CVS operations to frob content files: cvs rm en/releases/4.4R/notes.sgml cvs add en/releases/4.4R/relnotes-alpha.html cvs add en/releases/4.4R/relnotes-i386.html My test builds worked, but given my Neanderthal-level knowledge of XSL, I'd feel more comfortable with another pair of eyes on the patch too. Thanks! Bruce. Index: en/includes.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/includes.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.45 diff -u -r1.45 includes.sgml --- en/includes.sgml 2001/09/19 18:14:43 1.45 +++ en/includes.sgml 2001/09/20 14:37:32 @@ -74,7 +74,10 @@ - + + + + Index: en/includes.xsl =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/includes.xsl,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 includes.xsl --- en/includes.xsl 2001/09/19 19:07:58 1.3 +++ en/includes.xsl 2001/09/20 14:37:32 @@ -79,9 +79,14 @@ + + /releases/R/notes.html - + + /releases/R/relnotes-alpha.html + + /releases/R/relnotes-i386.html /releases/R/announce.html Index: en/index.xsl =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/index.xsl,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 index.xsl --- en/index.xsl 2001/08/23 14:03:49 1.6 +++ en/index.xsl 2001/09/20 14:37:33 @@ -335,7 +335,7 @@ · Announcement
    · Installation Guide
    - · Release Notes
    + · Release Notes (alpha, i386)
    · Errata

    Project News
    Index: en/releases/index.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/releases/index.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.62 diff -u -r1.62 index.sgml --- en/releases/index.sgml 2001/09/19 18:14:43 1.62 +++ en/releases/index.sgml 2001/09/20 14:37:35 @@ -19,7 +19,8 @@

    Release &rel.current; (September 2001) Announcement : -Release Notes : +Release Notes (alpha : +i386) : Errata

    Index: en/releases/4.4R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/releases/4.4R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 Makefile --- en/releases/4.4R/Makefile 2001/09/20 00:15:00 1.3 +++ en/releases/4.4R/Makefile 2001/09/20 14:37:36 @@ -7,9 +7,11 @@ .include "../Makefile.inc" .endif -DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml +DOCS= announce.sgml DATA= docbook.css DATA+= errata.html +DATA+= relnotes-alpha.html +DATA+= relnotes-i386.html .include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" --==_Exmh_-978236156P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7qgNX2MoxcVugUsMRAoN8AKDkq5ebtNI9UkoMy02im76DtFDJXgCeLSNY M/4JaBLaxPF0ATaUF5O8sgM= =zWIQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-978236156P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 8:10: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8F037B421 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8KFA1d52808; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mail.wlcg.com (mail.wlcg.com [198.92.199.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23ADA37B403 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rsimmons@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8KF8wF88745; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:08:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rsimmons) Message-Id: <200109201508.f8KF8wF88745@mail.wlcg.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:08:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Simmons Reply-To: Rob Simmons To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30687: Doc update for refuse file Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30687 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Doc update for refuse file >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 20 08:10:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rob Simmons >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-RC i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD mail 4.4-RC FreeBSD 4.4-RC #0: Tue Aug 21 19:07:27 EDT 2001 rsimmons@mail:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WASABI i386 >Description: The example refuse file src/share/examples/cvsup/refuse.README is missing two of the foreign language ports sections. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: --- share/examples/cvsup/refuse.README Thu Aug 23 06:30:47 2001 +++ /tmp/refuse.README Thu Sep 20 11:03:42 2001 @@ -42,11 +42,13 @@ doc/zh doc/zh_* ports/chinese + ports/french ports/german ports/hebrew ports/japanese ports/korean ports/russian + ports/ukrainian ports/vietnamese Use refuse files with care. Some parts of the src distribution >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 8:22:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C412237B418; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8KFLRZ44269; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:21:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:21:27 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: Web site changes for multiple relnotes files Message-ID: <20010920162127.L1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200109201455.f8KEtJX27060@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ECcIMtargrIi2fbc" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200109201455.f8KEtJX27060@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com>; from bmah@freebsd.org on Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 07:55:19AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ECcIMtargrIi2fbc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 07:55:19AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > Hi folks-- >=20 > Could someone skim over this Web site patch? I'd like to commit it=20 > later today (California time) if possible. >=20 > As has been (very correctly) pointed out to me, we should make available > the alpha architecture release notes for 4.4-RELEASE on the Web site. > There's a very little bit of XSL/SGML infrastructure changes needed to > support multiple release notes files (with some attempt at backward > compatability). A patch for this is appended below, assuming > the following additional CVS operations to frob content files: >=20 > cvs rm en/releases/4.4R/notes.sgml > cvs add en/releases/4.4R/relnotes-alpha.html > cvs add en/releases/4.4R/relnotes-i386.html >=20 > My test builds worked, but given my Neanderthal-level knowledge of XSL, > I'd feel more comfortable with another pair of eyes on the patch too. Why not have .../notes.sgml just say something like Release notes for FreeBSD 4.4 are available for the following platforms: * i386 * Alpha and make those links to notes-alpha.html and notes-i386.html instead? Then we don't need to the change the front page, and, more importantly, we still have a system that scales as more architecture ports are bought onboard (otherwise the front page would get increasingly cluttered). N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --ECcIMtargrIi2fbc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuqCXcACgkQk6gHZCw343XwNgCfVPHWxLeszC7CG6v9sMc4ktQu 2jkAn1KuirU6JxxrHCapqJt3Swhne8wp =XTFi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ECcIMtargrIi2fbc-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 8:57:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D3E37B417 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88474BC73; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17279; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:57:31 -0700 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8KFuiV48473; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:56:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: "Philippe Bourcier" Cc: Subject: Re: sysctl References: <000f01c141e0$1e1de540$0a00a8c0@zen> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 20 Sep 2001 08:56:43 -0700 In-Reply-To: <000f01c141e0$1e1de540$0a00a8c0@zen> Message-ID: Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Philippe Bourcier" writes: > I am willing to make a documentation about all sysctl values (one by one, > their options and their use) so people can understand and tune better their > system. > > Is that something already being done? > Does that sound interesting (to me it sounds like it is, but then it's my > idea...)? Just a comment from a newbie: We've probably all wished for such a document, but here's a couple of things to consider: The information would (usually?) be redundant, being documented in subject- specific sections of the handbook (or ?). This increases the maintenance burden if your documentation is other than just a dated article. In a low-resource outfit, it is probably better to keep info in one place and use references. It is probably debatable where that should be for sysctl items. I suspect that their use is better described in a topical context than in a list as you propose. Perhaps your document could list the items (to be easily located and for methodical exploration), giving references to sections in other documentation where each are described (and you could improve those sections as needed) and do as you planned for the items nowhere else described. Of course, If you'd rather not mess with references and other documents, I'm sure the document you propose would be a lot better than none at all. I hope you will not forget to mention the interaction of some KERNCONF variables with some sysctl variables. Good of you to ask for comment first. I hope I haven't discouraged you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 9: 2:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A89937B415; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8KG1tQ75870; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:01:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:01:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109201601.f8KG1tQ75870@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rsimmons@mail.wlcg.com, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ru@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/30687: Doc update for refuse file Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Doc update for refuse file State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 20 09:01:16 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed to -CURRENT, thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ru Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Sep 20 09:01:16 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30687 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 9:11:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E0B37B41B; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8KGBdA30167; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:11:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200109201611.f8KGBdA30167@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Nik Clayton Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RFC: Web site changes for multiple relnotes files In-Reply-To: <20010920162127.L1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200109201455.f8KEtJX27060@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <20010920162127.L1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Comments: In-reply-to Nik Clayton message dated "Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:21:27 +0100." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_441246964P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:11:39 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_441246964P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Nik Clayton wrote: > Why not have .../notes.sgml just say something like > > Release notes for FreeBSD 4.4 are available for the following > platforms: > > * i386 > * Alpha > > and make those links to notes-alpha.html and notes-i386.html instead? Ah. I like this idea better. It adds one more level of indirection, but people can probably live with this. > Then we don't need to the change the front page, and, more importantly, > we still have a system that scales as more architecture ports are bought > onboard (otherwise the front page would get increasingly cluttered). ...plus we're not taking a page off-line (could get Web crawlers confused). ...finally you don't have to worry about me messing with the XSL files. :-) Thanks! Bruce. --==_Exmh_441246964P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7qhU72MoxcVugUsMRAo2nAKCTLeOywBuz0TWjYO7b258PBQT+OwCfchpM xMZq5RaevpKIB+AwqYaQViM= =pB83 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_441246964P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 9:41:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server1.lordlegacy.org (lordlegacy.org [209.61.182.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AC437B410 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sharon ([216.13.207.127]) by server1.lordlegacy.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA21505; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 06:53:34 -0500 From: "Stephen Hurd" To: "Philippe Bourcier" , Subject: RE: sysctl Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:52:53 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-reply-to: <000f01c141e0$1e1de540$0a00a8c0@zen> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi, > > I am willing to make a documentation about all sysctl values (one by one, > their options and their use) so people can understand and tune better their > system. > > Is that something already being done? > Does that sound interesting (to me it sounds like it is, but then it's my > idea...)? I would be VERY interested to read it... I sure wouldn't be interested in writing it. :-) It's the kind of thing I thing to myself "That would be really nice" about every month or so. My $0.02 is that it would be wonderful if each variable had a brief blurb about the intended use for the variable also, in addition to what it does. The difference is rather subtle, but important. For example the "net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_wrong_iface" causes no messages to be logged when an arp response arrives on the wrong interface. Mentioning that this is commonly used when both interfaces are physically conected to the same LAN would be quite a bit of help... or even "Use this to shut up the 'arp: 192.168.1.254 is on ed0 but got reply from 10.10.7.253 on ed1' messages that can flood the syslog in some circumstances." Of course, that bit would take quite some time.... Is the 7th parameter to SYSCTL_INT available in any place? If so, you may want to have a look at it. 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All enquiries welcome ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 13:54:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hollowman.mweb.co.za (hollowman.mweb.co.za [196.2.46.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55D837B40F for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from siberiyan.dyndns.org ([196.30.182.62]) by hollowman.mweb.co.za (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0GJZ00DH0BE9BI@hollowman.mweb.co.za> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:54:11 +0200 (SAST) Received: by siberiyan.dyndns.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:54:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:54:33 +0200 From: Piet Delport Subject: Re: Translation ? In-reply-to: To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org'" Mail-Followup-To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org'" Message-id: <20010920225433.D3789@athalon> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=IDYEmSnFhs3mNXr+; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.0av BETA (http://www.vim.org/) X-Crypto: gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.6 (http://www.gnupg.org/) X-GPG-Key-ID: 0x6B191427 X-GPG-Fingerprint: C7FF A540 2199 F7BF 1933 5640 CD15 0FF3 6B19 1427 References: <20010920110158.B32286@lpt.ens.fr> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --IDYEmSnFhs3mNXr+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 at 13:08:52 +0200, Wouter Van Hemel wrote: [snip] > Likewise, if anybody thinks there's use for a Dutch translation (this > is probably rather useless), speak up... Well, i'm thinking of starting on an Afrikaans translation at some point in the near future, pending on me learning how the whole DocBook/ CVS/Makefile system works. If either of the two translations ever get started, maybe some cross-adaptation of text could be done? (For those unfamiliar with them, Dutch and Afrikaans are closely related as far as languages go. If you're fluent in one, you should be able to catch the drift of the other, either spoken or written, without much difficulty.) --=20 Piet Delport Today's subliminal thought is: --IDYEmSnFhs3mNXr+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE7qleJzRUP82sZFCcRAoK0AJ93NHwDZK47k3kl3AYIO2hFrqB0cACfdjOP BjNhrXRNkJhP4kA58fI7oJo= =/e8L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IDYEmSnFhs3mNXr+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 16:22:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B2037B419; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8KNFH448440; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 00:15:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 00:15:17 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Subject: Branching www/ for XML development Message-ID: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jZnw8Q/DKt8Pu8HW" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --jZnw8Q/DKt8Pu8HW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, I'm thinking about branching www/ to do some XML development work. Lately I've been looking at XML and XSLT as an alternative to the existing approach we use of turning HTML files with additional SGML content in to the standard HTML files we serve on the web. We do this using tools like sgmlnorm, and some Perl scripts here and there. Lately, I've been experimenting with XML, and XSLT as an alternative. For those that don't know, XSLT is a stylesheet language for XML. It's sort of like the XML equivalent of DSSSL offering similar features, but a vastly different syntax. We use this on the web site in a few places now. For example, it's XSLT stylesheets that generate the home page at the moment, including pulling in data from other files to generate the list of headlines and press articles. I've started experimenting with various ways of doing this, and I'm working my way through chunks of the website as I go. You can see an example look-and-feel at http://people.freebsd.org/~nik/snapshot7.png At this stage this is still quite experimental. And it's nowhere near ready to be committed to the main web site yet. But I would like other people to start looking at it, and I do want the incremental changes that are being made logged somewhere useful so that translation teams can follow along. I also want to make this more widely available so that if my free time dries up for an extended period (something that happens with monotonous regularity) other people can continue to drive it forward. So I'm thinking it might be worthwhile to branch www/, and start putting some things on the branch for people to test and play around with. Thoughts? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --jZnw8Q/DKt8Pu8HW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuqeIUACgkQk6gHZCw343XDdACePKnaLd10LQtKeN92PDOiNyvW CS4AnivZ/QgwbYKmZtd01Akj0LLB476Y =ECl3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jZnw8Q/DKt8Pu8HW-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 16:30: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B701C37B416 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8KNU1s47989; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from h24-79-119-53.vc.shawcable.net (h24-79-126-98.vc.shawcable.net [24.79.126.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E7937B414 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jh@localhost) by h24-79-119-53.vc.shawcable.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8KNLew25207; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:21:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhanna) Message-Id: <200109202321.f8KNLew25207@h24-79-119-53.vc.shawcable.net> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:21:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Hanna Reply-To: Jonathan Hanna To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30697: mb_fixhdr correction for mbchain.9 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30697 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mb_fixhdr correction for mbchain.9 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 20 16:30:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jonathan Hanna >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD roller.pangolin-systems.com 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #2: Sun Sep 2 19:54:20 PDT 2001 jh@roller.pangolin-systems.com:/homes/obj/homes2/src/sys/ROLLER i386 >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- mbchain.9 2001/09/20 23:04:02 1.1 +++ mbchain.9 2001/09/20 23:12:43 @@ -135,7 +135,7 @@ .Fn mb_fixhdr recalculates the length of an mbuf chain and updates the .Va m_pkthdr.len -field of the first mbuf in the chain. +field of the first mbuf in the chain. It returns the calculated length. .Pp .Fn mb_reserve ensures that the object of the length specified by the @@ -191,8 +191,9 @@ .Sh RETURN VALUES All .Ft int -functions return zero if successful, -otherwise error code is returned. +functions except +.Fn mb_fixhdr +return zero if successful and an error code otherwise. .Pp .Em Note : after failure of any function, an mbuf chain is left in the broken state, >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 17:39: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21BD37B403; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 0785C4B6A7; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:38:17 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Branching www/ for XML development Message-ID: <20010920173817.A26240@windriver.com> References: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 12:15:17AM +0100 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 12:15:17AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > I've started experimenting with various ways of doing this, and I'm > working my way through chunks of the website as I go. You can see an > example look-and-feel at > > http://people.freebsd.org/~nik/snapshot7.png This looks much nicer than our existing main page. > At this stage this is still quite experimental. And it's nowhere near > ready to be committed to the main web site yet. But I would like other > people to start looking at it, and I do want the incremental changes > that are being made logged somewhere useful so that translation teams > can follow along. I also want to make this more widely available so > that if my free time dries up for an extended period (something that > happens with monotonous regularity) other people can continue to drive > it forward. Sounds great. > So I'm thinking it might be worthwhile to branch www/, and start putting > some things on the branch for people to test and play around with. > Thoughts? I like the idea, and I've also found some time to go through Kay's XSLT book so I might even help with this a little. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 17:46: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8620337B41A; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:290:27ff:fe98:c0b7]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9672624D3B; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:45:54 +0900 (JST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:2d0:b7ff:fea0:d487]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D62D140A; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:45:53 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:45:52 +0900 Message-ID: <7m8zf9fk1r.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Branching www/ for XML development In-Reply-To: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 MULE XEmacs/21.4 (patch 4) (Artificial Intelligence) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org # Move to doc@ (with Bcc: www@) At Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:22:23 +0000 (UTC), nik wrote: > I've started experimenting with various ways of doing this, and I'm > working my way through chunks of the website as I go. You can see an > example look-and-feel at > > http://people.freebsd.org/~nik/snapshot7.png Looks good! I think we need to discuss what links to actual contents should be exist on index.html. But that's another story. > So I'm thinking it might be worthwhile to branch www/, and start putting > some things on the branch for people to test and play around with. Sharing experimental files is good idea. Is it required to branch all of www/en (and some translation) tree? If many experimental commits will be done, how about making a new module (such as www/xml/en) and playing on there? -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAA= ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C14255.6F956680-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 19:59:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA8C37B415; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8L2xMY47599; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:59:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200109210259.f8L2xMY47599@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Branching www/ for XML development In-Reply-To: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Comments: In-reply-to Nik Clayton message dated "Fri, 21 Sep 2001 00:15:17 +0100." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1373572280P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:59:22 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1373572280P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Nik Clayton wrote: > Lately, I've been experimenting with XML, and XSLT as an alternative. > For those that don't know, XSLT is a stylesheet language for XML. It's > sort of like the XML equivalent of DSSSL offering similar features, but > a vastly different syntax. What do you hope to gain with XML/XSLT? I'm asking this out of ignorance, not skepticism. Is it going to make it easier to manage changes, or give us better organization, or a more consistent look 'n' feel, or...???... The snapshot looks nice (less cluttered than what we have now), but I'm not sure what how much of the difference is due to the use of XML, how much comes from a reorganization of the information, and how much comes from you using a different browser to render the page from what I usually run. What should I be looking for here? (You probably recognize by now my let's-use-nik-as-a-learning-resource stream of questions.) > So I'm thinking it might be worthwhile to branch www/, and start putting > some things on the branch for people to test and play around with. > Thoughts? Clearly I don't know enough to evaluate the merits of your idea but I certainly can't see a branch hurting anything. I'd say go for it. Bruce. --==_Exmh_1373572280P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7qq0K2MoxcVugUsMRAhXEAJ40ZTa3uS5ZzYa75h1OnvmeuEwvpwCfacSz o2mZXAg5PrHUNUtzgyoGD6M= =9Hle -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1373572280P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 20 21: 0:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6B937B413 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8L400w60316; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:00:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from xeon.unixathome.org (cr1046889-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.102.95.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD53637B410 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dan@localhost) by xeon.unixathome.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8L3u5b18028; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:56:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dan) Message-Id: <200109210356.f8L3u5b18028@xeon.unixathome.org> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:56:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille Reply-To: Dan Langille To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30703: add the NZ cvsup server to the list of mirrors Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30703 >Category: docs >Synopsis: add the NZ cvsup server to the list of mirrors >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 20 21:00:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dan Langille >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: The FreeBSD Diary >Environment: System: FreeBSD xeon.unixathome.org 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #1: Thu Sep 20 22:28:22 EDT 2001 root@xeon.unixathome.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XEON i386 >Description: The NZ cvsup server/maintainer is not listed. >How-To-Repeat: see http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html >Fix: attached patch --- chapter.sgml.org Thu Sep 20 23:50:55 2001 +++ chapter.sgml Thu Sep 20 23:52:23 2001 @@ -3613,6 +3613,19 @@ + + + New Zealand + + + + + cvsup.nx.FreeBSD.org (maintainer + cvsup@langille.org) + + + + Netherlands >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 21 3: 5:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-208-191-154-55.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [208.191.154.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD57537B417; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 03:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.11.4/8.9.3) id f8LA5Zl14565; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 05:05:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 05:05:31 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Branching www/ for XML development Message-ID: <20010921050531.A649@holly.calldei.com> Reply-To: chris@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <200109210259.f8L2xMY47599@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200109210259.f8L2xMY47599@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 07:59:22PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, September 20, 2001, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > What do you hope to gain with XML/XSLT? I'm asking this out of > ignorance, not skepticism. Is it going to make it easier to manage > changes, or give us better organization, or a more consistent look 'n' > feel, or...???... Well, we can use XSLT to help get all of those things. Instead of marking up each page as an HTML file, we'll probably have an XML layout something like: The FreeBSD Project
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    and then, based on the `role' attribute of , different side-bar configurations may be used, and all of the sidebar stuff moves out of the individual pages and into the global XSL stylesheet. 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Fri, 21 Sep 2001 21:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from index (u24-164.u203-203.giga.net.tw [203.203.24.164]) by mail2out.giga.net.tw (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FB301422A for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 12:37:27 +0800 (CST) To: From: gd168@24k.com.tw Subject: Àô«O¹p®gºÒ¯»§X±MÃD¬ã¨s³ø§i Date: ¬P´Á¤», 22 ¤E¤ë 2001 12:35:31 +0800 Message-Id: <37156.524675115737600.36529@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ¨ü¤åªÌ¡G§e¡@°ê¥ß¥xÆW¤j¾Çº[©ÒÄݦæ¬F¾Ç³N¬ã¨s³æ¦ì¡þ ¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¥þ°ê¦U¯Å¾÷Ãö¹ÎÅé¡þ¤½¥q¦æ¸¹¡þ¤½·|©Î­Ó¤H¡@½Ðų®Ö¡I µo¤åªÌ¡G¥øÀs¿ì¤½¥Î«~¦³­­¤½¥q¡@¹q¸Ü¡G(02)2701-2000 ¥D¡@¦®¡G¨Ï¥Î¡eÀô«O¹p®gºÒ¯»§X¡f¤§ÀuÂI¤Î±ÄÁÊ­nÂI¡C »¡¡@©ú¡GÀô«O¹p®gºÒ¯»§X¤§±MÃD¬ã¨s³ø§i ¡]¤@¡^«e¨¥ ¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@ªñ¦~¨Ó¡A¥Ñ©ó¦U¶µ¬ÛÃö§Þ³N¦¨¼ô¡A°t¦X¥b¾ÉÅé²£·~ÁO«kµo®i ¡@¡@¡@¨Ï±o¹p®g¦Lªí¾÷»ù®æ¤j´T¤U·Æ¡A¦U¼t°ÓµL¤£À£§C»ù®æ¡A¥HÂX¤j¥« ¡@¡@¡@³õ¦û¦³²v¡A¦A¥H«áÄòªº¯Ó§÷ÁȦ^¨ä§Q¼í¡A±zªá¦bºÒ¯»§Xªº¶O¥Î¡A ¡@¡@¡@ªø´Á¦Ó¨¥¹ê¦b¬O¤@µ§¥iÆ[ªº¤ä¥X¡C ¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¡e¨Ï¥ÎÀô«O¹p®gºÒ¯»§X¤§¤T¤j²z¥Ñ¡f ¡@¡@¡@¡@ (1)§Þ³N¤W¤w¬ð¯}¡G¦³Å²©óºÒ¯»§X©M¾¥¤ô§X»Ý¨D¶q¤£Â_¦¨ªø¡A ¡@¡@¡@°ê¤H¤­¦~«e¶}©lµÛ¤â¡A°w¹ï¹p®g¦Lªí¾÷¹q¤l¼g¯u§Þ³N¤ÎºÒ¯»·P¥ú ¡@¡@¡@Åé¡A¶i¦æ¬ÛÃö¬ãµo¤u§@¡A¬ãµo¤p²Õ¦¨­û¬Ò¬°³ÕºÓ¤h¾Ç¾ú¡A¬ãµo¤p ¡@¡@¡@²Õ¦¨­û°w¹ï¦U¤j¼tµP¾÷¾¹ºë±Kµ²ºc¡A¤w¦³²`«×¤F¸Ñ¡A´x´¤³\¦h¬Û ¡@¡@¡@Ãö§Þ³N¡A¹ïºÒ¯»§Xªº§÷®Æ¤Î»sµ{°Ñ¼Æ¦³­Y¤z§ï¶i¡A¥H¾AÀ³¥xÆW¨È ¡@¡@¡@¼ö±a°ª·Å¼éÀ㪺®ð­ÔÀô¹Ò¡A¸gÄY®æ«~ºÞ±±¨î¡A°ê¤H©Ò¥Í²£ªºÀô«O ¡@¡@¡@¹p®gºÒ¯»§X¡A¦C¦L«~½è©M­ì¼t¦P¼Ë²M´·¡A¥B¤£·|¶Ë®`¾÷¾¹¡C ¡@¡@¡@¡@ (2)¬°Àô«OºÉ¤ß¤O¡GºÒ¯»§X³y¦¨¹ïÀô¹Òªº¦Ã¬V»P¤é­Ñ¼W¡A¤HÃþ ¡@¡@¡@À³¤Ï¬Ùı®©¡A§Ú­Ì¥u¦³¤@­Ó¦a²y¡A¬°¥þ¤HÃþ¤Î«á¥N¤l®]¡A«O¯d¤@ ¡@¡@¡@­Ó°®²bªº¥Í¦sÀô¹Ò¡A¤w¨ì¨è¤£®e½wªº¦a¨B¡IÅý§Ú­Ì±q®Õ¶é°µ°_¡A ¡@¡@¡@¤@°_¨Ó¦^¦¬¨Ã¨Ï¥ÎÀô«O¹p®gºÒ¯»§X¡C ¡@¡@¡@¡@ (3)¸`¬Ù¦C¦L¶O¥Î¡G®Ú¾Ú¤u°Ó®É³ø 90¦~4¤ë12¤é³ø¾É«ü¥X¡A¥Î ¡@¡@¡@Àô«O¹p®gºÒ¯»§X¥i¸`¬Ù¢³¦¨¥ª¥kªº¶O¥Î¡A¤£¥²¦hªá¿ú¡C ¡]¤G¡^¥þ²yÁͶդÀªR ¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@1999¦~ºÒ¯»¥d§X¦A¥Í¦^¦¬¨Ï¥Î¤ñ¸û¡G ¡@¡@¡@¼Ú¬ü¥«³õ¦A¥Í¦^¦¬¥d§X¨Ï¥Î²v ¢²¢¯¢H (¬ù1/3) ¡@¡@¡@¥xÆW¥«³õ¦A¥Í¦^¦¬¥d§X¨Ï¥Î²v ¡@¢´¢H ¡@¡@¡@(¸ê®Æ¨Ó·½¡GRecharger´Á¥Z) ¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¥xÆW¬ù¦³50¸U¥x¹p®g¦Lªí¾÷¡A¹w¦ô¨C¦~¨Ï¥Î¬ù100¡ã200¸U¤ä ¡@¡@¡@¹p®gºÒ¯»§X¡A»s³y¥X¬ù2000¡ã2500¤½¾·©TÅé¼o±óª«¡A¨Ã¥B¨C¦~³o ¡@¡@¡@­Ó¼Æ¥Ø¥¿¦b¦¨ªø¡C¦Ó³o¨Ç¶ì½¦¼o±óª«¶·­n¶W¹L¤Q­Ó¥@¬ö¨Ó¤À¸Ñ¡A ¡@¡@¡@¹ï¥xÆW¤T¸U¤»¤d¥­¤è¤½¨½ªº¤g¦a¤W¡A³y¦¨ÄY­«ªº­t²ü¡C ¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¼Ú¬ü¦U°ê¬ÛÃöÀô«Oªk¥O±j¨î³W©w»s³y¼t°Óªº¦^¦¬¤ñ²v¡A¤w¦æ ¡@¡@¡@¤§¦h¦~¡A¹ï©ó¦^¦¬·~ªÌ¤]¦³¹ïÀ³ªº»²§U¬Fµ¦¡A¨Ã¤£Â_ªº±Ð¨|¨Ï¥Î ¡@¡@¡@ªÌ¦^¦¬¡B´î¶q¦A§Q¥Î(Recycle, Reduce, Reuse)ªºÆ[©À¡C ¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¨Æ¹êÃÒ©ú¡A¦¹Á|¤£¶È¦³§U©óÀô«O¥B¯à­°§C¤ä¥X¡A¬ü°ê¤w©ú¥O ¡@¡@¡@Áp¨¹¬F©²ªº¦U³æ¦ì¥²¶·¨Ï¥ÎÀô«OºÒ¯»§X¡C ¡]¤T¡^¹ïÀô¹Ò«OÅ@¤Î¸ê·½¦^¦¬¦A§Q¥Î¡A¨ã¦³¥¿­±·N¸q ¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¦pªG»s³y¨C­Ó¥d§X»Ý­n¶W¹L¤T¦j²æªo¡A¨º»ò¥xÆW¨C¦~´N·| ¡@¡@¡@¥Î±¼ªñ100 ¸U¥[±[ªº¥Ûªo¡C¦pªG±z´«¶RÀô«OºÒ¯»§X¡A«Ü©ú½T¦a¡A ¡@¡@¡@±z¤w¸g¹ï«OÅ@Àô¹Ò°µ¥X°^Äm¤F¡A¦]¬°§Ú­Ìªº§£§£³õ¥i¥H´î¤Ö¤@­Ó ¡@¡@¡@ªÅ¶¡¨Ó¦s©ñ±zªº¥d§X¡C ¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¥H¥xÆW¥Ø«e¨Ï¥Î¶q·U¨Ó·U¦hªº¹p®g¦Lªí¾÷¦Ó¨¥¡A¨C¤Ñ¥á±óªº ¡@¡@¡@ºÒ¯»§X¤£ª¾¦h¤Ö¡A¦Ó³o¨ÇºÒ¯»§X¸ÌªººÒ¯»¦â¾¯·L²É¡A¤Ø¤o¬ù6-12 ¡@¡@¡@·L¦Ì¡A«o·|º¯¤J¦a¤U¤ô¡A¦Ã¬V¤ô·½¡A­Y·Q±q¤ô¤¤°£¥h³o¨ÇºÒ¯»·L ¡@¡@¡@²É¡A´N¥²¶·¥[¸Ë¯S®íÂo¤ô³]³Æ¡A¦]¦¹µL½×¤½¥q¥ø·~©Î¾Ç®Õ¤Î­Ó¤H ¡@¡@¡@³£¦³³d¥ô¤@°_¨Ó¨¾¤îºÒ¯»§X¦Ã¬VÀô¹Òªº¤u§@¡AºÒ¯»§Xªº¦^¦¬¦A§Q ¡@¡@¡@¥Î¡A¬O¥Ø«eªº°ß¤@³~®|¡C ¡]¥|¡^Àô«OºÒ¯»§X¤§±ÄÁÊ­nÂI ¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¥Ñ©ó¥«°âÀô«OºÒ¯»§X¡A¨ÑÀ³°Ó¹L¦h¡A¦U®aªº«~½è°Ñ®t¤£»ô¡A ¡@¡@¡@·q½Ð»{©ú¥øÀs¥N²zªºÀô«OºÒ¯»§X¡A¬°¥Ø«e¥xÆW°ß¤@±M·~¾É¦V¤§Àô ¡@¡@¡@«O¹p®gºÒ¯»§X¡A«~½èº¡·N«OÃÒ¡A¤£º¡¥]°h¡A½T«O®ø¶OÅv¯q¡AÁקK ¡@¡@¡@¶R¨ì¦H½è«~¡A¿ï¾Ü¥øÀs¡A«~½è¦³«O»Ù¡I ¡@¡@¡@±ÄÁÊ«e°È¥²¸ß°Ý¤U¦C­«­n°Ñ¦Ò¨Ì¾Ú¡G ¡@¡@¡@1.Àô«O¹p®gºÒ¯»§X¡A¬O§_§¹¥þ¥H¼Ð·Ç»sµ{»s³y¡H¡@»sµ{¤¤¡A¼oºÒ ¡@¡@¡@¡@¯»¼Ñ¤Î¬ÛÃö¹s¥ó¬O§_²M²z°®²b¨ÃÀ˸դ¸¥ó©Ê¯à¡H ¡@¡@¡@2.Àx¯»¼Ñ¬O§_§¹¥þ²M¼ä°®²b«á¡A¤~­«·s¸Ë¶ñ¥þ·sºÒ¯»¡H ¡@¡@¡@3.©Ò¥R¶ñ¤§ºÒ¯»¡A¬O§_¬°°ê»Ú¶¡ª¾¦WºÒ¯»¼t¥X«~¡H ¡@¡@¡@4.©Ò¦³Àx¯»¼Ñ¡A¬O§_¥H«Ê±ø±K«Ê¡A§¹¾ã¥æ¥I¨Ï¥Î¤H¡H ¡@¡@¡@5.ºÒ¯»§X¬O§_³q¹L§¹¾ã¦ÓÄY®æ«~ºÞ´ú¸Õ«á¤~¥X¼t¡H ¡@¡@¡@6.´ú¸Õ¥Î¤§ºÒ¯»¬O§_¬°¥~¥[¡H¡@©Ò¥R¶ñªººÒ¯»¼Æ¶q©M­ì¼tºÒ¯»§X ¡@¡@¡@¡@®e¶q¬O§_¬Û¦P¡A·|¤£·|µu¤Ö¡H ¡@¡@¡@7.¥R¶ñ¤§ºÒ¯»¬O§_¸g¹Lºë±K´ú¸Õ¡A½T»{¤ñ¼Ð·Ç­È°ª¤~¸Ë¶ñ¡H ¡@¡@¡@8.©Ò§ó´«¤§·P¥ú¹ª¬O§_¬°°ê»Ú¶¡ª¾¦W¤§°ª¬ì§Þ¼tµP²£«~¡H ¡@¡@¡@9.ºÒ¯»§X¦¨«~¬O§_¥H¶Â¦â¶ì½¦¯È¹ê¬IÁ×¥ú¥]¸Ë«á¡A¨Ã¥H®ðªw³U©Î ¡@¡@¡@¡@¯S®íŨ¹Ô«OÅ@¡A¦A¸Ë¤J«OÅ@¼Ñ¡A¥H½T«O¹B¿é³~¤¤¤D¦Ü¨Ï¥Î«e¡A ¡@¡@¡@¡@¤£¨ü¥ô¦ó¥ú½u¨ä¥Lª«²z©Ê¡A¤Æ¾Ç©Ê¶Ë®`¡H ¡@¡@¡@¡@¥øÀs¥N²zªºÀô«O¹p®gºÒ¯»§X·~¤w¥þ¼Æ³q¹L¤W­z´ú¸Õ¡A¥þ­±¹ê¬I ¡@¡@¡@¡@«~½èº¡·N«OÃÒ¦A­qÁÊ¡A¤£º¡·N«OÃÒ°h³f¡I ¡]¤­¡^»ù®æ¸ê°T¡GÀô«O¹p®gºÒ¯»§X¤§»ù®æ¤w¤½¥¬©óºô¯¸¡AÅwªï¤Wºô¬d¸ß ¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@ºô§}¡Ghttp://clik.to/96969180 ¡]¤»¡^Ápµ¸¸ê°T¡G¥H¤W¸ê®Æ¥Ñ¥øÀs¿ì¤½¥Î«~¦³­­¤½¥q©Ò´£¨Ñ¡A¦p»Ý­qÁÊ ¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@¡@½Ð¹q¡G(02)2701-2000§Ú­Ì¼ö¸Ûªº¦P¤¯¬°±zªA°È¡C To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 22 1:32: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw2.netvision.net.il (mailgw2.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB84F37B410 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 01:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ido (ras14-p310.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.113.70]) by mailgw2.netvision.net.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA00421 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 11:34:42 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: <000a01c14349$14355e40$4671003e@ido> From: "Ido Kanner" To: Subject: About the OS Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 11:29:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C14359.CA950A40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C14359.CA950A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I'm tring to learn the FreeBSD OS. i have few question about the OS that i did not find answers to anywhere = else. First of all i'm new to all Unix, Linux and Unix like OSes... 1. What are the executibles of the OS=20 I.e. The Scripts files, the .EXE likes etc... 2. How can I search in Man in general for a command that I do not know = it's name but I know what it needs to do ? 3. How can I find drivers for my hardware like: Software-Modem, Zip = Drive and more ? 4. How can I add a locolized language to it (my langauge is Hebrew) ? 5. Can I use Linux or Unix program in FreeBSD, if so, then how ? Regars Ido Kanner ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C14359.CA950A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hello,
     
    I'm tring to learn the FreeBSD = OS.
     
    i have few question about the OS that i = did not=20 find answers to anywhere else.
     
    First of all i'm new to all Unix, Linux = and Unix=20 like OSes...
     
    1. What are the executibles of the OS =
     I.e. The Scripts files, the .EXE = likes=20 etc...
     
    2. How can I search in Man in general = for a command=20 that I do not know it's name but I know what it needs to do = ?
     
    3. How can I find drivers for my = hardware=20 like: Software-Modem, Zip Drive and more ?
     
    4. How can I add a locolized language = to it (my=20 langauge is Hebrew) ?
     
    5. Can I use Linux or Unix program = in FreeBSD,=20 if so, then how ?
     
     
    Regars
     
    Ido Kanner
    ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C14359.CA950A40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 22 2:10: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5293337B416 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 02:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8M9A0K84578; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 02:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from robbins.dropbear.id.au (160.a.003.mel.iprimus.net.au [203.134.172.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E260537B416 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 02:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by robbins.dropbear.id.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8M94j400870; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 19:04:45 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from tim) Message-Id: <200109220904.f8M94j400870@robbins.dropbear.id.au> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 19:04:45 +1000 (EST) From: "Tim J. Robbins" Reply-To: "Tim J. Robbins" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30731: printf(1) refers to ANSI C Standard draft Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30731 >Category: docs >Synopsis: printf(1) refers to ANSI C Standard draft >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Sep 22 02:10:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Tim J. Robbins >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD mango.robbins.dropbear.id.au 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 18 11:57:08 PDT 2001 murray@builder.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: The printf(1) manual pages refers to a draft of the ANSI C standard, when the standard is now final: Character escape sequences are in backslash notation as defined in the draft proposed ANSI C Standard X3J11. The characters and their meanings are as follows: >How-To-Repeat: Read printf(1) >Fix: If required, update printf(1) for the final version of the ANSI C standard, then refer to the final version of the standard, not a draft. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 22 3:52:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C4E37B411; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 03:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8MAZMo80635; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 11:35:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 11:35:21 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Branching www/ for XML development Message-ID: <20010922113521.W1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Fh+fyCUbzktHKe74" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 12:15:17AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Fh+fyCUbzktHKe74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 12:15:17AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > I'm thinking about branching www/ to do some XML development work. Another alternative that occured to me earlier today. Don't branch, but do the work in directories that parallel the doc/ locale directories. E.g., www/en_US.ISO8859-1/. When we're finished, change the top level Makefile to use the new directories instead. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --Fh+fyCUbzktHKe74 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjusaWkACgkQk6gHZCw343WpRgCfT5HxVYI0KfqKwyC0wL4T30pd G7IAn0qdq7LTl7pbplxATkCBIuuipxgc =lKdp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Fh+fyCUbzktHKe74-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 22 5:52:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B5D37B406 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 05:52:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8MClvO81234; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 13:47:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 13:47:57 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Ido Kanner Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About the OS Message-ID: <20010922134757.Y1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <000a01c14349$14355e40$4671003e@ido> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fwVzdwcpG0LlK9IO" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000a01c14349$14355e40$4671003e@ido>; from kanerido@netvision.net.il on Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 11:29:07AM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --fwVzdwcpG0LlK9IO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 11:29:07AM +0200, Ido Kanner wrote: > I'm tring to learn the FreeBSD OS. >=20 > i have few question about the OS that i did not find answers to anywhere = else. >=20 > First of all i'm new to all Unix, Linux and Unix like OSes... >=20 > 1. What are the executibles of the OS=20 > I.e. The Scripts files, the .EXE likes etc... I don't understand the question. > 2. How can I search in Man in general for a command that I do not know=20 > it's name but I know what it needs to do ? man -k keyword e.g., make -k firewall > 3. How can I find drivers for my hardware like: Software-Modem, Zip Drive= =20 > and more ? Read the chapter in the Handbook about kernel configuration, and look at the list of supported hardware that comes with whatever release of FreeBSD that you're using. > 4. How can I add a locolized language to it (my langauge is Hebrew) ? See the Handbook, chapter 13. > 5. Can I use Linux or Unix program in FreeBSD, if so, then how ? See the Handbook, chapter 20. In summary, go and read the Handbook. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --fwVzdwcpG0LlK9IO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjusiH0ACgkQk6gHZCw343WoBwCeNP/lmZfOnE9BpXJKvh+JspfV oLoAniQ4aGlyiP5byH77wKeuA9Pjs2Ta =gyCO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fwVzdwcpG0LlK9IO-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 22 6:25:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hood.tvd.be (hood.tvd.be [195.162.196.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9B237B40A for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 06:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cocaine.cryolabs.net (cable-213-132-151-215.upc.chello.be [213.132.151.215]) by hood.tvd.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/RELAY-1.1) with ESMTP id PAA04547; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 15:25:27 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 15:24:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Wouter Van Hemel To: Ido Kanner Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About the OS [OT] In-Reply-To: <000a01c14349$14355e40$4671003e@ido> Message-ID: PGP: 0B B4 BC 28 53 62 FE 94 6A 57 EE B8 A6 E2 1B E4 (0xAA5412F0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, Ido Kanner wrote: > Hello, > > I'm tring to learn the FreeBSD OS. > > i have few question about the OS that i did not find answers to anywhere else. > You might want to ask those questions to 'questions' instead of 'doc', that list's purpose matches your questions more. > First of all i'm new to all Unix, Linux and Unix like OSes... > Please, read some newbie-documentation and the handbook, you can find links on the FreeBSD project's homepage, http://www.freebsd.org/. > 1. What are the executibles of the OS > I.e. The Scripts files, the .EXE likes etc... > Extensions are not often used in the unix world. To know when a file is executable, issue a 'ls -l ', there you can see the permissions, which looks like: -rw------- 1 wouter wouter 64417 Aug 31 22:42 chapter7.txt -rwxr-xr-x 1 wouter wouter 0 Sep 22 14:52 myscript ( _---___--- ------ ------ ----- ------------ ) ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ) 1) if there's a 'd' in this column, it's a directory. 2) permissions for the owner of the file (which is in col 5) 3) permissions for the group in which the owner resides (col 6) 4) permissions for all others 5) owner of file 6) group of owner of file 7) file size 8) filename Permissions: 'r' | | 'readable' | 'w' | means it's | 'writeable' | for that person 'x' | | 'executable' | ... whereas '-' means it's not, obviously. So - and I try to keep it simple :) - if there's an 'x' in the 3 characters at position (2), you can execute the file. Aternatively, you can use the command 'file' to ask the type of the file you are inquiring: [ice:~] file /bin/ls ------------ =--> that's what you type, if you want to check 'ls' and you get: /bin/ls: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, stripped ... which means it's a binary executable (like a .exe in dos). If it's a script: [ice:~] file /etc/rc.network6 /etc/rc.network6: Bourne shell script text executable ... so this is a shell script for a Bourne-kind of shell, sh or bash being the most known. > 2. How can I search in Man in general for a command that I do not know > it's name but I know what it needs to do ? > You might give 'apropos' a try: [ice:~] apropos copy ... cp(1) - copy files cpio(1) - copy files to and from archives dd(1) - convert and copy a file ... but in general, this doesn't always work, depending on your choice of words. Perhaps it's easier to read a tutorial or howto that describes the action you are trying to do, or to read a book about unix. I recommend (again) the handbook. > 3. How can I find drivers for my hardware like: Software-Modem, Zip > Drive and more ? > You can load modules that give you the functionality to work with that device. Read (yes again) the handbook. > 4. How can I add a locolized language to it (my langauge is Hebrew) ? > You can set your locale, which is explained in - indeed - the handbook :) > 5. Can I use Linux or Unix program in FreeBSD, if so, then how ? > - If it's a program compiled for freebsd (your version), just run it. - If it's a linux program, and you loaded the linux binary compatability module (handbook, chapter 20), just run it. - If it's source code (this is often the case), compile it. > > Regars > > Ido Kanner > Good luck... :) . . . . . w o u t e r . . . o . . . , /\ __=__/`\______________________________ __o _/ . ` . \_ _=_ o// O\ | w o u t e r v a n h e m e l | <\o/\ P `| |_ . h t t p : / / w w w . i n s o m n i a . c x / . _| O _\ |\ \_________________________________o________\o_________/ <'> /O^ |()o _O\ . l a v i e e n m o u v e m e n t |`\ >> \\ << . . . . . . . . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 22 6:27:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28CA37B427 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 06:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:290:27ff:fe98:c0b7]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78EC24D33; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 22:27:18 +0900 (JST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:2d0:b7ff:fea0:d487]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143D9D1401; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 22:27:17 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 22:27:13 +0900 Message-ID: <7meloze4pa.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Branching www/ for XML development In-Reply-To: <20010922113521.W1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010922113521.W1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 MULE XEmacs/21.4 (patch 4) (Artificial Intelligence) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Sat, 22 Sep 2001 10:52:22 +0000 (UTC), nik wrote: > E.g., www/en_US.ISO8859-1/. When we're finished, change the top level > Makefile to use the new directories instead. It is difficult for me to agree with you. As you know :-), I don't like long directory name such as en_US.ISO8859-1. I don't have any plan to use multiple encoding in localized contents. And we don't have *_JP language other than Japanese (ja_JP). So from my *selfish* point of view, "ja_JP.eucJP" is too long. Yes, I know some languages require additional country identifier to know correct language syntax. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 19:20:41 +0200 Reply-To: "Petition" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010922171831Z1074331-31110+3294@ghost4.onet.pl> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please sign The Petition at http://home.uchicago.edu/~dhpicker/petition which appeals to world leaders to be level-headed and, wherever possible, peaceful in their response to the recent attack against the United States. PLEASE FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. The signatures logged by the website above will be forwarded to leaders around the world. It is imperative that we act quickly to save lifes. Soldeirs average is not 50 but 22 years....World leaders average is 60. Sylvain. Check too: http://www.euronewspaper.de

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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 22 10:18:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ghost4.onet.pl (ghost4.onet.pl [213.180.128.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7838637B420 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 10:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [157.25.130.16] ([157.25.130.16]:13816 "HELO poczta.onet.pl") by ghost4.onet.pl with SMTP id ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 19:18:31 +0200 From: "Petition" To: "freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Petiton against war. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 19:20:40 +0200 Reply-To: "Petition" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010922171831Z1074281-31110+3295@ghost4.onet.pl> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please sign The Petition at http://home.uchicago.edu/~dhpicker/petition which appeals to world leaders to be level-headed and, wherever possible, peaceful in their response to the recent attack against the United States. PLEASE FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. The signatures logged by the website above will be forwarded to leaders around the world. It is imperative that we act quickly to save lifes. Soldeirs average is not 50 but 22 years....World leaders average is 60. Sylvain. Check too: http://www.euronewspaper.de

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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 22 10:30: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C0737B422 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8MHU1h85303; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E2237B40D for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 10:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8MHQhK84891; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 10:26:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200109221726.f8MHQhK84891@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 10:26:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Shill To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/30742: Possible typo in handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30742 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Possible typo in handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Sep 22 10:30:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Shill >Release: >Organization: >Environment: >Description: In the handbook's section 9.4: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html "it is recommended that you change this option to GPL_MATH_EMULATION" However, it seems LINT lists that option as "GPL_MATH_EMULATE". I think the handbook is wrong. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 22 11:57:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DE837B415; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 11:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8MInmg96428; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 11:49:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 11:49:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109221849.f8MInmg96428@freefall.freebsd.org> To: shill@free.fr, tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30742: Possible typo in handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Possible typo in handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: tom State-Changed-When: Sat Sep 22 11:47:52 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in revision 1.64 of doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml - thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30742 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 22 16:10: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A430D37B414 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 16:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8MNA1k50653; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 16:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E1E37B418 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 16:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8MN8XL50516; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 16:08:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200109222308.f8MN8XL50516@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 16:08:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Shill To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/30749: Typo in the handbook's section 14.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30749 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Typo in the handbook's section 14.3 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Sep 22 16:10:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Shill >Release: >Organization: >Environment: >Description: In the handbook's section 14.3: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x13973.html "After adding the driver(s) you need to your kernel configuration file" -> delete "you need" (?) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 22 18:26: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from msg-proxy3.mweb.co.za (msg-proxy3.mweb.co.za [196.2.46.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E7237B41C for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 18:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from siberiyan.dyndns.org ([196.30.183.2]) by msg-proxy3.mweb.co.za (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0GK3001K2DAYVN@msg-proxy3.mweb.co.za> for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2001 03:25:48 +0200 (SAST) Received: by siberiyan.dyndns.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 23 Sep 2001 03:26:10 +0200 Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 03:26:10 +0200 From: Piet Delport Subject: Minor cleanups in fdisk.8 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-id: <20010923032610.A24014@athalon> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=jho1yZJdad60DJr+; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.0ax BETA (http://www.vim.org/) X-Crypto: gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.6 (http://www.gnupg.org/) X-GPG-Key-ID: 0x6B191427 X-GPG-Fingerprint: C7FF A540 2199 F7BF 1933 5640 CD15 0FF3 6B19 1427 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --jho1yZJdad60DJr+ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I've attached a patch that cleans up the fdisk(8) manpage (of my frequently-cvsupped 4-STABLE system) a bit, correcting mainly grammatical and cosmetic mistakes. This is my first patch, and the first time i've worked with mdoc, so i don't want to send-pr it just yet. Can someone with experience comment on it, pointing out any obvious mistakes and such? Thanks, --=20 Piet Delport Today's subliminal thought is: --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="fdisk.1.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- sbin/i386/fdisk/fdisk.8.orig Thu Aug 16 13:35:43 2001 +++ sbin/i386/fdisk/fdisk.8 Sun Sep 23 02:42:24 2001 @@ -131,10 +131,11 @@ .Ql ad0 , and .Ql da0 -are being searched in that order, until one is -being found responding. +are searched in that order, until one is found to respond. .Pp -When called with no arguments, it prints the sector 0 partition table. +When called with no arguments,=20 +.Nm +prints the sector 0 partition table. An example follows: .Bd -literal ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* @@ -180,18 +181,17 @@ .It Em "flag 80" specifies that this is the active partition. .It Em cyl , sector No and Em head -fields are used to specify the beginning address -and end address for the partition. +fields are used to specify the beginning and end addresses of the partitio= n. .It Em Note : these numbers are calculated using BIOS's understanding of the disk geomet= ry and saved in the bootblock. .El .Pp -The flags +The .Fl i or .Fl u -are used to indicate that the partition data is to be updated, unless the +flags are used to indicate that the partition data is to be updated, unles= s the .Fl f option is used. If the .Fl f @@ -203,7 +203,7 @@ selects defaults for its questions to guarantee the above behavior. .Pp It displays each partition -and ask if you want to edit it. +and asks whether you want to edit it. If you say yes, it will step through each field showing the old value and asking for a new one. @@ -227,20 +227,18 @@ .Em active partition. Finally, -when the all the data for the first sector has been accumulated, -you are asked if you really want to rewrite sector 0. -Only if you answer yes, -will the data be written to disk. +when all the data for sector 0 has been accumulated, +you are asked to confirm whether you really want to rewrite it. .Pp The difference between the .Fl u -flag and +and .Fl i -flag is that +flags is that the .Fl u -flag just edits the fields as they appear on the disk. -While the +flag just edits (updates) the fields as they appear on the disk, +while the .Fl i flag is used to "initialize" sector 0; it will setup the last BIOS partition to use the whole disk for @@ -248,9 +246,9 @@ and make it active. .Sh NOTES The automatic calculation of starting cylinder etc. uses -a set of figures that represent what the BIOS thinks is the -geometry of the drive. -These figures are by default taken from the incore disklabel, +a set of figures that represent what the BIOS thinks the +geometry of the drive is. +These figures are taken from the incore disklabel by default, but the program initially gives you an opportunity to change them. This allows the user to create a bootblock that can work with drives that use geometry translation under the BIOS. @@ -276,7 +274,7 @@ from a .Ar configfile . The syntax of this file is very simple. Each line is either a comment or -a specification, and whitespace (except for newlines) are ignored: +a specification, and whitespace (except for newlines) is not significant: .Bl -tag -width Ds .It Xo .Ic # --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG-- --jho1yZJdad60DJr+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE7rToyzRUP82sZFCcRAo3KAJ9YuCDbeItCu7sLOWmRtwkRn7SS6wCggaud wx6Qe+0jhhmwszQS+xCB1oM= =Q5qn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jho1yZJdad60DJr+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 22 20:27:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6483937B41A for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCC0BCE8 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14313 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:27:37 -0700 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8N3QYp53274; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:26:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: What's MFC mean? From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 22 Sep 2001 20:26:33 -0700 Message-ID: <7mzo7my4d2.o7m@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 5 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I filed a PR on 4.3-STABLE and the PR was closed with this comment: This change has been MFCed and will be in -CURRENT. Please explain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 22 20:29:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2144437B40C for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 79864 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Sep 2001 03:29:52 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 23:29:52 -0400 From: Pete Fritchman To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's MFC mean? Message-ID: <20010922232952.A79072@databits.net> References: <7mzo7my4d2.o7m@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <7mzo7my4d2.o7m@localhost.localdomain>; from swear@blarg.net on Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 08:26:33PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ++ 22/09/01 20:26 -0700 - Gary W. Swearingen: | I filed a PR on 4.3-STABLE and the PR was closed with this comment: | | This change has been MFCed and will be in -CURRENT. | | Please explain. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#DEFINE-MFC -pete -- Pete Fritchman [petef@(databits.net|freebsd.org|csh.rit.edu)] finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message