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------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1652D.A99DA860-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 4 14:38:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB0937B41E; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 14:38:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA4MYDs39513; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 14:34:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 14:34:13 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111042234.fA4MYDs39513@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, brian@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/31607: /etc/ppp/pap-secrets needs IP field, which is not listed as mandatory Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: /etc/ppp/pap-secrets needs IP field, which is not listed as mandatory Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->brian Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Nov 4 14:34:02 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to PPP maintainer. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31607 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 4 14:40: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A172A37B405 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 14:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA4Me2a40342; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 14:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 14:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111042240.fA4Me2a40342@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/31695: upgrade instructions for 3-stable to 4-stable Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31695; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31695: upgrade instructions for 3-stable to 4-stable Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 22:33:39 +0000 mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org wrote: > >Description: > > The FAQ should include instructions on how to upgrade from 3-stable to > 4-stable. Yes! This is long overdue. Thanks for writing this up. > *** 1498,1503 **** > --- 1498,1519 ---- > > > > + > + When I try to upgrade from 3.X to 4-STABLE, the > + buildworld fails. What can I do? Hmm, people don't seem to use "the buildworld". Perhaps just "buildworld" or "the buildworld target" would be better? Regardless, buildworld should be marked up in . > + > + > + > + Because of the many changes between 3.X and 4-STABLE, > + a direct upgrade from source will probably fail. A source > + upgrade can be done, but only in stages. First, upgrade > + to the latest 3-STABLE (RELENG-3). Then upgrade to should be underscore, not dash --> ^^^^ > + 4.1.1-RELEASE (RELENG_4_1_1_RELEASE). Finally, upgrade to > + 4-STABLE (RELENG_4). The doc tree seems to be split up about even on whether to mark up CVS tags (RELENG_3, RELENG_4, etc.) or just let them be. and both seem to be popular tags to mark them up in, but since there's ample precedent for just leaving them alone, it's probably up to you. Personally, I'd mark them up, but I'm not sure if or is better. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 4 15:18:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E643737B405; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:18:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA4NBar46415; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:11:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:11:36 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111042311.fA4NBar46415@freefall.freebsd.org> To: parc@austin.rr.com, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31558: mknod(8) reports wrong location of major numbers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: mknod(8) reports wrong location of major numbers State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sun Nov 4 15:11:28 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Corrected in -current, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31558 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 4 15:48:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5632137B417; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA4NkbE49825; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:46:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:46:37 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111042346.fA4NkbE49825@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwm@mired.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31480: Lots of people want to know how to change the booteasy prompts Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Lots of people want to know how to change the booteasy prompts State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sun Nov 4 15:46:31 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31480 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 4 16:48:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA31F37B405; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA50ilS58110; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:44:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:44:47 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111050044.fA50ilS58110@freefall.freebsd.org> To: milon.papezik@oskarmobil.cz, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31436: sendto(2): ENETDOWN not mentioned in manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: sendto(2): ENETDOWN not mentioned in manpage State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sun Nov 4 16:44:41 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31436 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 4 16:48:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8126737B419; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:48:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA50dbl57405; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:39:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:39:37 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111050039.fA50dbl57405@freefall.freebsd.org> To: koich@cac.co.jp, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31365: malloc.3: malloc(3) and calloc(3) don't free memory, do they? Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: malloc.3: malloc(3) and calloc(3) don't free memory, do they? State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sun Nov 4 16:39:30 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31365 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 4 16:48:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB23C37B41A; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:48:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA50fnm57663; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:41:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:41:49 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111050041.fA50fnm57663@freefall.freebsd.org> To: davidc@acns.ab.ca, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31428: uiomove.9 has not been updated to reflect changes to the uio structure. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: uiomove.9 has not been updated to reflect changes to the uio structure. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sun Nov 4 16:41:42 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31428 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 4 17:25:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5775837B417 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 17:25:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA51PpG67172 for freebsd-doc; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 17:25:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from www) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 17:25:51 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111050125.fA51PpG67172@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Build of the webserver failed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ^ /c/www/build/www/en/index.xsl:465: error: Opening and ending tag mismatch: tr and body ^ /c/www/build/www/en/index.xsl:466: error: Opening and ending tag mismatch: table and html ^ /c/www/build/www/en/index.xsl:467: error: Opening and ending tag mismatch: body and xsl:template ^ /c/www/build/www/en/index.xsl:468: error: Opening and ending tag mismatch: html and xsl:stylesheet ^ /c/www/build/www/en/index.xsl:478: error: Premature end of data in tag End: --> ^ /c/www/build/www/en/index.xsl:478: error: Premature end of data in tag sheet> + --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="scsi-supported.diff" *** book.sgml-dist Wed Oct 31 11:30:49 2001 --- book.sgml Wed Oct 31 11:32:32 2001 *************** *** 2354,2360 **** See the complete list in the Handbook. --- 2354,2360 ---- See the complete list in the Release Notes. --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 9:20: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFA237B418 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 09:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA5HK0K61484; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 09:20:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5508637B405 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 09:12:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA90556; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:12:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111051712.MAA90556@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:12:03 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31784: new FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31784 >Category: docs >Synopsis: new FAQ >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Nov 05 09:20:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: today's -doc tree >Description: This question has cropped up more than once... not sure if that's frequent, but what the heck. >How-To-Repeat: read -questions. Here's a FAQ patch. >Fix: *** book.sgml-dist Mon Nov 5 10:49:36 2001 --- book.sgml Mon Nov 5 12:09:28 2001 *************** *** 3537,3542 **** --- 3537,3555 ---- + Why do I get Incorrect super block when mounting a CDROM? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 9:27:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E1037B405; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 09:27:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA90731; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:27:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:27:44 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/31784: new FAQ Message-ID: <20011105122744.A90718@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200111051712.MAA90556@blackhelicopters.org> <200111051720.fA5HK0w61480@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200111051720.fA5HK0w61480@freefall.freebsd.org>; from gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 09:20:00AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline The previous patch was wrong, it was missing a closing quote mark. Attached please find a correct patch, sorry! -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=3c509 *** book.sgml-dist Mon Nov 5 10:49:36 2001 --- book.sgml Mon Nov 5 12:09:28 2001 *************** *** 3537,3542 **** --- 3537,3555 ---- + + Why did my 3COM 3C509 card stop working for no + apparent reason? + + + + This card has a bad habit of losing its configuration + information. Refresh your card's settings with the DOS + utility 3c5x9.exe. + + + + Why do I get Incorrect super block when mounting a CDROM? --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 10: 0: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C847637B417 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 10:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA5I01u67453; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 10:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AA537B416 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 09:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA90983; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:57:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111051757.MAA90983@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:57:14 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31785: FAQ addition: advanced topics Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31785 >Category: docs >Synopsis: FAQ addition: advanced topics >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Nov 05 10:00:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: today's -doc tree >Description: People are always asking about how to learn more about FreeBSD's internals, or for a book on FreeBSD internals. Add an explicit answer to this question. >How-To-Repeat: read -hackers, -questions, -stable... >Fix: *** book.sgml-dist Mon Nov 5 10:49:36 2001 --- book.sgml Mon Nov 5 12:54:41 2001 *************** *** 11602,11607 **** --- 11602,11624 ---- Advanced Topics + + + + How can I learn more about FreeBSD's internals? + + + + At this time, there is no book on FreeBSD-specific OS + internals. Much general UNIX knowledge is directly + applicable to FreeBSD, however. Additionally, there are + BSD-specific books that are still relevant. + + For a list, please check the FAQ bibliography. + + + What are SNAPs and RELEASEs? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 11: 0:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC5437B418 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA5J0CQ77943 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:00:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:00:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111051900.fA5J0CQ77943@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2001/10/14] docs/31265 doc crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allo o [2001/10/22] docs/31446 doc anoncvs.freebsd.org is down for quite a w o [2001/10/29] docs/31607 doc /etc/ppp/pap-secrets needs IP field, whic o [2001/11/02] docs/31720 doc man ftpd(8) omits potentially crucial sec 6 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) s [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) a [2001/02/20] docs/25239 doc fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about s [2001/02/26] docs/25392 doc Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu f [2001/03/22] docs/26003 doc getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not sy a [2001/03/22] docs/26006 doc Changing zone(9) man page o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/04/08] docs/26451 doc ctype.h defined functions are not accurat o [2001/04/25] docs/26861 doc accept(2) manpage documents non-existant o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/06/02] docs/27833 doc No man page for locate.rc o [2001/06/06] docs/27915 doc man 5 passwd does not properly explain th s [2001/06/14] docs/28144 doc no manpage for host.conf, no xrefs in oth o [2001/06/30] docs/28555 doc [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/07/22] docs/29143 doc List of man pages that need to be written o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP f [2001/08/09] docs/29571 doc [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/06] docs/30408 doc loader man page is out-of-date o [2001/09/08] docs/30442 doc remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro o [2001/09/13] docs/30556 doc vnconfig man page incorrect; functionalit o [2001/09/15] docs/30603 doc physio(9) is internally inconsistent o [2001/09/16] docs/30618 doc ediff man page incomplete o [2001/09/22] docs/30731 doc printf(1) refers to ANSI C Standard draft o [2001/09/24] docs/30809 doc fdisk(8) cleanup o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/10/09] docs/31164 doc man page for strftime is incorrect o [2001/10/10] docs/31210 doc cvs info page missing -R o [2001/10/14] docs/31261 doc man(1) doesn't say what "system' (in "-m" o [2001/10/14] docs/31263 doc ipfw(8) doesn't explain list versus show. a [2001/10/14] docs/31271 doc rl(4) discourages vender openness by disp f [2001/10/18] docs/31350 doc make of doc module fails after 'make obj' o [2001/10/22] docs/31431 doc grep manpage is incorrect regarding _GNU_ o [2001/10/25] docs/31502 doc ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386 o [2001/10/30] docs/31640 doc Avoiding uppercase program names in manpa o [2001/10/30] docs/31653 doc Chapter 14 of the Handbook lacks content o [2001/10/31] docs/31682 doc newfs man page still contains mount_mfs c a [2001/11/03] docs/31747 doc pthread_create.3 does not markup NULL o [2001/11/05] docs/31776 doc addition to fdp o [2001/11/05] docs/31777 doc Outdated Information about making a custo o [2001/11/05] docs/31780 doc tweak to PAO link o [2001/11/05] docs/31784 doc new FAQ o [2001/11/05] docs/31785 doc FAQ addition: advanced topics 49 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 11: 4:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bilbo.in.mat.cc (bilbo.in.mat.cc [212.43.217.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9076237B405 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:04:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from bilbo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bilbo.in.mat.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4CC71180 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 20:04:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from club-internet.fr (sauron.in.mat.cc [212.43.217.122]) by bilbo.in.mat.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C00E71180 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 20:04:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3BE6E2AC.D401B28D@club-internet.fr> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 20:04:12 +0100 From: Mathieu Arnold Organization: http://www.absolight.com/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD doc Subject: FreeBSD web site (site map) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I don't know if I'm posting to the right mailing list, but, anyway I was looking at the site map, and in the support section, there is "Projects" twice. I believe that as the first leads to a link to the second, a : Index: site.map =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/search/site.map,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -r1.13 site.map --- site.map 10 May 2001 03:38:30 -0000 1.13 +++ site.map 5 Nov 2001 10:08:23 -0000 @@ -27,7 +27,6 @@ ../support.html#web|Web ../support.html#pr|Bugs ../support.html#cvs|CVS -../support.html#development|Projects ../support.html#user|User Groups ../projects/|Projects ../security/security.html|Security would do it. -- Mathieu Arnold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 11:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F1337B417 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:30:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA91754 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:30:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:30:06 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: still more on pointing to relnotes Message-ID: <20011105143006.A91718@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline (as you can probably tell, I have absolutely nothing to do at work today...) It also seems that it would be still better to have a separate entity for the hardware notes, as well as the release notes. Here's a patch that implements that, and corrects the pointer to pointer to info. Okay, I'll shut up now... ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="freebsd.ent2" *** share/sgml/freebsd.ent-dist Mon Nov 5 14:17:03 2001 --- share/sgml/freebsd.ent Mon Nov 5 14:18:11 2001 *************** *** 16,21 **** --- 16,23 ---- it's really release time --> + + --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=scsi-support2 *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Mon Nov 5 10:49:36 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Mon Nov 5 14:22:22 2001 *************** *** 2429,2435 **** See the complete list in the Handbook. --- 2429,2435 ---- See the complete list in the current Hardware Notes. --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 11:44:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91E037B417 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA5Jhxk10328; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:43:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200111051943.fA5Jhxk10328@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: still more on pointing to relnotes In-Reply-To: <20011105143006.A91718@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20011105143006.A91718@blackhelicopters.org> Comments: In-reply-to Michael Lucas message dated "Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:30:06 -0500." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1747302592P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 11:43:59 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1747302592P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Michael Lucas wrote: > It also seems that it would be still better to have a separate entity > for the hardware notes, as well as the release notes. Here's a patch > that implements that, and corrects the pointer to pointer to info. I was going to suggest that, but you beat me to it. Although I haven't looked through the FAQ/Handbook to see how many places these entities would get used (and thus how much we win), I can't see any *harm* in doing this, and it seems like a pretty good idea to me. > Okay, I'll shut up now... :-) Cheers, Bruce. PS. I don't know how often we need to refer to the errata file, but that's another candidate for entitification. --==_Exmh_-1747302592P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE75uv/2MoxcVugUsMRAt6kAJsHo6yjNtVhmDiqJ/+pBgCYAyiCtwCfWi8q 11D6kGZ//UFRPQFKoIe9Ek8= =895L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1747302592P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 11:56: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E347C37B416; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA92005; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:56:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:56:02 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: still more on pointing to relnotes Message-ID: <20011105145601.A91975@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20011105143006.A91718@blackhelicopters.org> <200111051943.fA5Jhxk10328@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200111051943.fA5Jhxk10328@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 11:43:59AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 11:43:59AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > PS. I don't know how often we need to refer to the errata file, but > that's another candidate for entitification. > I thought of that, but didn't see any place where we'd need them, so didn't care enough to suggest it. It's certainly a trivial change, but I hate to introduce things we'll never need... -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 11:59: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A02F37B405 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:58:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA92132 for docs@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:58:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:58:56 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: docs@freebsd.org Subject: re: pr/31446 Message-ID: <20011105145856.A92118@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Here's some suggested text for this PR. The anoncvs server has been down for long enough that we really ought to recognize it in the docs. It's easy enough to undo when we get a server back up. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=anoncvs *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml-dist Mon Nov 5 14:43:49 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml Mon Nov 5 14:53:33 2001 *************** *** 1087,1092 **** --- 1087,1103 ---- with the FreeBSD project bits then CVSup is really your only option. + + At the time of this writing, FreeBSD's Anonymous CVS + server is down. We are looking for a + volunteer to build and maintain a server for this. An + anonymous CVS server for a project as large as FreeBSD has + considerable hardware requirements. For example, the source + code files must be kept on a memory disk as the disk + activity is intensive enough to quickly destroy a standard + physical disk. Contact hubs@FreeBSD.org if + you're seriously interested in providing such a + server. --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 12:36:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9F737B405 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (arr@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id fA5KaSM78203; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 15:36:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from arr@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: arr owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 15:36:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew R. Reiter" X-Sender: arr@fledge.watson.org To: Michael Lucas Cc: docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: re: pr/31446 In-Reply-To: <20011105145856.A92118@blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do we recognize anoncvs1 as being up? On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Michael Lucas wrote: :Here's some suggested text for this PR. : :The anoncvs server has been down for long enough that we really ought :to recognize it in the docs. It's easy enough to undo when we get a :server back up. : : :==ml : :-- :Michael Lucas :mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org :http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ :Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons : -- Andrew R. Reiter arr@watson.org arr@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 12:42:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E65037B416 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:42:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 6BED24B65D; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:41:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:41:56 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Peter Pentchev Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: TIDYFLAGS fixes all around the tree Message-ID: <20011105124156.D10872@windriver.com> References: <20011105175820.D77919@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E39vaYmALEf/7YXx" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011105175820.D77919@straylight.oblivion.bg>; from roam@ringlet.net on Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 05:58:20PM +0200 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How up to date was your source tree? I think I fixed this last night. There was an open PR for it. Search closed PRs for 'TIDYFLAGS' and sync up your doc tree then try again. Thanks, - Murray On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 05:58:20PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Just today, I tried to build the ru_RU.KOI8-R version of the docs. > Looking at the build process, I noticed quite a lot of HTML scrolling > off the screen, which did not quite seem like normal output to me :) > A closer inspection revealed the issue at hand: all the places which > set TIDYFLAGS to, say, "-latin1" or "-raw", set them explicitly, while > doc.docbook.mk and doc.html.mk only add the rest of the flags conditional= ly. > Thus, when tidy is invoked in e.g. ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd/, > we have: >=20 > [roam@straylight:v4 ~/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd]$ m= ake -n > /usr/bin/touch index.sgml > /bin/cp -p /usr/home/roam/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd= /../../ > ../share/misc/docbook.css docbook.css > /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /usr/home/roam/fbsd/r/do= c/ru_RU > .KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ioutput= .html.i > mages -D /usr/obj/usr/home/roam/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explai= ning-bs > d -c /usr/home/roam/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd/../..= /../ru_ > RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/home/roam/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/ar= ticles/ > explaining-bsd/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docb= ook/dss > sl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/loca= l/share > /sgml/jade/catalog -t sgml /usr/home/roam/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articl= es/expl > aining-bsd/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && fa= lse) > /usr/local/bin/tidy -latin1 article.html > [roam@straylight:v4 ~/fbsd/r/doc >=20 > Note the last line, and esp. the lack of -i -m -f /dev/null. What really > fudges things up is the lack of -m, which means the tidied output goes > to stdout instead of replacing article.html. Nothing breaks, but > the resulting files are not tidied at all :) >=20 > After applying the attached patch: >=20 >=20 > [roam@straylight:v4 ~/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd]$ m= ake -n > /usr/bin/touch index.sgml > /bin/cp -p /usr/home/roam/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd= /../../ > ../share/misc/docbook.css docbook.css > /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /usr/home/roam/fbsd/r/do= c/ru_RU > .KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ioutput= .html.i > mages -D /usr/obj/usr/home/roam/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explai= ning-bs > d -c /usr/home/roam/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd/../..= /../ru_ > RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/home/roam/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/ar= ticles/ > explaining-bsd/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docb= ook/dss > sl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/loca= l/share > /sgml/jade/catalog -t sgml /usr/home/roam/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articl= es/expl > aining-bsd/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && fa= lse) > /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -f /dev/null -latin1 -latin1 article.html > [roam@straylight:v4 ~/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd]$ >=20 > Well, ok, so -latin1 is there twice, but I don't think that's a big deal = :) >=20 > The other workaround would be changing the TIDYFLAGS?=3D in doc.docbook.mk > and doc.html.mk to TIDYFLAGS+=3D, but that would break any future/debuggi= ng > invocations where people might want their errors actually displayed. >=20 > G'luck, > Peter >=20 > --=20 > Hey, out there - is it *you* reading me, or is it someone else? >=20 > Index: doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/Makefile.inc > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/Makefile.inc,v > retrieving revision 1.3 > diff -u -r1.3 Makefile.inc > --- doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/Makefile.inc 11 Jun 2001 01:16:24 -0000 1.3 > +++ doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/Makefile.inc 5 Nov 2001 15:47:18 -0000 > @@ -6,6 +6,6 @@ > # $FreeBSDde: de-docproj/books/Makefile.inc,v 1.4 2001/02/01 21:24:27= alex Exp $ > # > =20 > -TIDYFLAGS=3D -latin1 > +TIDYFLAGS+=3D -latin1 > =20 > DESTDIR?=3D ${DOCDIR}/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/${.CURDIR:T} > Index: doc/ja_JP.eucJP/articles/Makefile.inc > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/articles/Makefile.inc,v > retrieving revision 1.2 > diff -u -r1.2 Makefile.inc > --- doc/ja_JP.eucJP/articles/Makefile.inc 23 Mar 2000 09:00:10 -0000 1.2 > +++ doc/ja_JP.eucJP/articles/Makefile.inc 5 Nov 2001 15:47:29 -0000 > @@ -3,6 +3,6 @@ > # > # Original revision: 1.3 > =20 > -TIDYFLAGS=3D -raw > +TIDYFLAGS+=3D -raw > =20 > DESTDIR?=3D ${DOCDIR}/ja/articles/${.CURDIR:T} > Index: doc/ja_JP.eucJP/books/Makefile.inc > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/books/Makefile.inc,v > retrieving revision 1.5 > diff -u -r1.5 Makefile.inc > --- doc/ja_JP.eucJP/books/Makefile.inc 23 Mar 2000 09:00:12 -0000 1.5 > +++ doc/ja_JP.eucJP/books/Makefile.inc 5 Nov 2001 15:47:36 -0000 > @@ -2,6 +2,6 @@ > # $FreeBSD$ > # > =20 > -TIDYFLAGS=3D -raw > +TIDYFLAGS+=3D -raw > =20 > DESTDIR?=3D ${DOCDIR}/ja/books/${.CURDIR:T} > Index: doc/nl_NL.ISO8859-1/books/Makefile.inc > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/nl_NL.ISO8859-1/books/Makefile.inc,v > retrieving revision 1.1 > diff -u -r1.1 Makefile.inc > --- doc/nl_NL.ISO8859-1/books/Makefile.inc 23 Sep 2001 09:15:52 -0000 1.1 > +++ doc/nl_NL.ISO8859-1/books/Makefile.inc 5 Nov 2001 15:47:41 -0000 > @@ -2,6 +2,6 @@ > # $FreeBSD$ > # > =20 > -TIDYFLAGS=3D -latin1 > +TIDYFLAGS+=3D -latin1 > =20 > DESTDIR?=3D ${DOCDIR}/nl_NL.ISO8859-1/books/${.CURDIR:T} > Index: doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/Makefile.inc > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/Makefile.inc,v > retrieving revision 1.3 > diff -u -r1.3 Makefile.inc > --- doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/Makefile.inc 25 Jul 2001 13:17:06 -0000 1.3 > +++ doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/Makefile.inc 5 Nov 2001 15:45:05 -0000 > @@ -5,5 +5,5 @@ > # Original revision: 1.3 > # > =20 > -TIDYFLAGS=3D -latin1 > +TIDYFLAGS+=3D -latin1 > DESTDIR?=3D ${DOCDIR}/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/${.CURDIR:T} > Index: doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/Makefile.inc > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/Makefile.inc,v > retrieving revision 1.7 > diff -u -r1.7 Makefile.inc > --- doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/Makefile.inc 25 Jul 2001 15:29:02 -0000 1.7 > +++ doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/Makefile.inc 5 Nov 2001 15:47:48 -0000 > @@ -4,6 +4,6 @@ > # > # Original revision: 1.4 > =20 > -TIDYFLAGS=3D -latin1 > +TIDYFLAGS+=3D -latin1 > =20 > DESTDIR?=3D ${DOCDIR}/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/${.CURDIR:T} > Index: doc/sr_YU.ISO8859-2/articles/Makefile.inc > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/sr_YU.ISO8859-2/articles/Makefile.inc,v > retrieving revision 1.2 > diff -u -r1.2 Makefile.inc > --- doc/sr_YU.ISO8859-2/articles/Makefile.inc 11 Jun 2001 01:20:31 -0000 = 1.2 > +++ doc/sr_YU.ISO8859-2/articles/Makefile.inc 5 Nov 2001 15:48:08 -0000 > @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ > -TIDYFLAGS=3D -raw > +TIDYFLAGS+=3D -raw > =20 > .if defined(OPENJADE) > JADE=3D SP_ENCODING=3DISO-8859-2 ${PREFIX}/bin/openjade > Index: doc/sr_YU.ISO8859-2/books/Makefile.inc > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/sr_YU.ISO8859-2/books/Makefile.inc,v > retrieving revision 1.2 > diff -u -r1.2 Makefile.inc > --- doc/sr_YU.ISO8859-2/books/Makefile.inc 11 Jun 2001 01:20:32 -0000 1.2 > +++ doc/sr_YU.ISO8859-2/books/Makefile.inc 5 Nov 2001 15:48:04 -0000 > @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ > -TIDYFLAGS=3D -raw > +TIDYFLAGS+=3D -raw > =20 > .if defined(OPENJADE) > JADE=3D SP_ENCODING=3DISO-8859-2 ${PREFIX}/bin/openjade > Index: doc/zh_TW.Big5/books/faq/Makefile > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/zh_TW.Big5/books/faq/Makefile,v > retrieving revision 1.4 > diff -u -r1.4 Makefile > --- doc/zh_TW.Big5/books/faq/Makefile 6 Sep 1999 06:53:43 -0000 1.4 > +++ doc/zh_TW.Big5/books/faq/Makefile 5 Nov 2001 15:48:18 -0000 > @@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ > =20 > MAINTAINER=3Dfoxfair@FreeBSD.org > =20 > -TIDYFLAGS=3D -raw > +TIDYFLAGS+=3D -raw > =20 > DOC?=3D book > =20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE75vmTtNcQog5FH30RAsTzAJ9B0Hh8aaI49ab1Ip9bbXmiSsz92gCgwqOm sH7ffq/vWgxoSu6UfyVSknk= =kFMI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 13: 5: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480CB37B405; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 13:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA92403; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:04:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:04:56 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: "Andrew R. Reiter" Cc: docs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pr/31446 Message-ID: <20011105160456.A92387@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20011105145856.A92118@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from arr@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:36:27PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The collective wisdom on the mailing lists has been that there is no anoncvs server. I would be delighted to be wrong. :) On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:36:27PM -0500, Andrew R. Reiter wrote: > > Do we recognize anoncvs1 as being up? > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Michael Lucas wrote: > > :Here's some suggested text for this PR. > : > :The anoncvs server has been down for long enough that we really ought > :to recognize it in the docs. It's easy enough to undo when we get a > :server back up. > : > : > :==ml > : > :-- > :Michael Lucas > :mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > :http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > :Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > : > > -- > Andrew R. Reiter > arr@watson.org > arr@FreeBSD.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 13:44:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793BD37B416; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 13:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA92549; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:44:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:44:13 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: "Andrew R. Reiter" Cc: docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: pr/31446 Message-ID: <20011105164413.A92537@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20011105145856.A92118@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from arr@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:36:27PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm going to suggest that this implies "no, anoncvs1 is not up." :) bigbox~;ping anoncvs1.freebsd.org ping: cannot resolve anoncvs1.freebsd.org: Unknown host bigbox~; On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:36:27PM -0500, Andrew R. Reiter wrote: > > Do we recognize anoncvs1 as being up? > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Michael Lucas wrote: > > :Here's some suggested text for this PR. > : > :The anoncvs server has been down for long enough that we really ought > :to recognize it in the docs. It's easy enough to undo when we get a > :server back up. > : > : > :==ml > : > :-- > :Michael Lucas > :mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > :http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > :Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > : > > -- > Andrew R. Reiter > arr@watson.org > arr@FreeBSD.org -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 13:47: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21110.mail.yahoo.com (web21110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F31137B418 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 13:46:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011105214638.51854.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.4] by web21110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 13:46:38 PST Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 13:46:38 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: traffic reduction for freebsd.org To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi all, i dont know if i am sending this to the right mailing list... i tried to signup with freebsd-www but i was somewhat having problems... ne ways... i think it would be better if we change the send-pr link on the http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html page from to . The reason to do this is that.. because there are lots of traffic on this page... we can make it point to the referer... like... if uk.freebsd.org requested send-pr.html.. then.. it would be better if we offered the uk.freebsd.org/send-pr.html and not http://freebsd.org/send-pr.html. In short it would divert all the traffic to the mirror site. ===== thanks, regards, Hiten Pandya http://www.geocities.com/hitmaster2k __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 13:47: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from amsfep11-int.chello.nl (amsfep11-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435FE37B428 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 13:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from daemon.chronias.ninth-circle.org ([62.163.96.180]) by amsfep11-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id <20011105214651.KJUH28612.amsfep11-int.chello.nl@daemon.chronias.ninth-circle.org>; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 22:46:51 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.chronias.ninth-circle.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA5Lhn198512; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 22:43:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 22:43:49 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq book.sgml Message-ID: <20011105224349.F97551@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <200110312326.f9VNQ4O00103@freefall.freebsd.org> <72962.1004605004@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20011101211547.U9608@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <20011102180743.A36151@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011102180743.A36151@hades.hell.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [20011102 19:11], Giorgos Keramidas (charon@labs.gr) wrote: >I've uploaded at http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/diff a set of >files that change all the articles to use `manual page' instead of >`manpage'. Look for diff.000.* -> diff.008.* files. > >If it seems ok and we want to standardize on `manual page' instead of >manpage, I think I can have the books/ later tonight too. > >What does everyone think about this? Please do it. It makes translation easier as well. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / Asmodai / Kita no Mono asmodai@[wxs.nl|[freebsd|xmach].org], finger asmodai@ninth-circle.dnsalias.net http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ Expansion of happiness is the purpose of life... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 13:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (descartes.noos.net [212.198.2.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9930637B405 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 13:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 37177297 invoked by uid 0); 5 Nov 2001 21:49:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.229.145]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.74 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 5 Nov 2001 21:49:55 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA5LnrO81111; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 22:49:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200111052149.fA5LnrO81111@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: docs/31447: global broken links fix In-Reply-To: <200111051038.fA5AcJV57018@freefall.freebsd.org> To: murray@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 22:49:53 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-Face: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL95a (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org murray@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: global broken links fix > > State-Changed-From-To: analyzed->closed > State-Changed-By: murray > State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 5 02:36:56 PST 2001 > State-Changed-Why: > Please post your urlbase entity stuff to the doc list for discussion. > When we've agreed on the best semantics then you can submit another > (smaller) PR. Most of this PR has already been committed. Thanks! wait a few days more. until now, I was only working on the english part of doc and www and looking at other languages make me think a lot. also, I was a lot busy these days :) Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 13:56:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2DD37B416 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 13:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (arr@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id fA5Lu6c81556; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:56:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from arr@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: arr owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:56:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew R. Reiter" X-Sender: arr@fledge.watson.org To: Michael Lucas Cc: docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: pr/31446 In-Reply-To: <20011105164413.A92537@blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hrm -- I get openbsd mail too so I must've confused something :-) Thanks, Andrew On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Michael Lucas wrote: :I'm going to suggest that this implies "no, anoncvs1 is not up." :) : :bigbox~;ping anoncvs1.freebsd.org :ping: cannot resolve anoncvs1.freebsd.org: Unknown host :bigbox~; : : : :On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:36:27PM -0500, Andrew R. Reiter wrote: :> :> Do we recognize anoncvs1 as being up? :> :> On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Michael Lucas wrote: :> :> :Here's some suggested text for this PR. :> : :> :The anoncvs server has been down for long enough that we really ought :> :to recognize it in the docs. It's easy enough to undo when we get a :> :server back up. :> : :> : :> :==ml :> : :> :-- :> :Michael Lucas :> :mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org :> :http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ :> :Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons :> : :> :> -- :> Andrew R. Reiter :> arr@watson.org :> arr@FreeBSD.org : :-- :Michael Lucas :mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org :http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ :Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons : -- Andrew R. Reiter arr@watson.org arr@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 5 16:13:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (aragon.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4781A37B416 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 48784984 invoked by uid 0); 6 Nov 2001 00:13:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.229.145]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 6 Nov 2001 00:13:20 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA60DIE85535; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 01:13:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200111060013.fA60DIE85535@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: TIDYFLAGS fixes all around the tree In-Reply-To: <20011105124156.D10872@windriver.com> To: Murray Stokely Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 01:13:18 +0100 (CET) Cc: Peter Pentchev , doc@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-Face: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL95a (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Murray Stokely wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 05:58:20PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > > > Just today, I tried to build the ru_RU.KOI8-R version of the docs. > > Looking at the build process, I noticed quite a lot of HTML scrolling > > off the screen, which did not quite seem like normal output to me :) > > A closer inspection revealed the issue at hand: all the places which > > set TIDYFLAGS to, say, "-latin1" or "-raw", set them explicitly, while > > doc.docbook.mk and doc.html.mk only add the rest of the flags conditionally. > > Thus, when tidy is invoked in e.g. ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd/, > > we have: [snip] > How up to date was your source tree? I think I fixed this last > night. There was an open PR for it. Search closed PRs for > 'TIDYFLAGS' and sync up your doc tree then try again. sorry, Murray, but I've made a tipo in the related patch. TIDYOPTS?= -i -m -f /dev/null ${TYDYFLAGS} ^ should be I in doc.docbook.html. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 3:21:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (sentinel.office1.bg [217.75.134.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 383E437B416 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 03:21:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10738 invoked by uid 1000); 6 Nov 2001 10:53:25 -0000 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:53:25 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Murray Stokely Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: TIDYFLAGS fixes all around the tree Message-ID: <20011106125323.E10023@straylight.oblivion.bg> References: <20011105175820.D77919@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20011105124156.D10872@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011105124156.D10872@windriver.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 12:41:56PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 12:41:56PM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > How up to date was your source tree? I think I fixed this last > night. There was an open PR for it. Search closed PRs for > 'TIDYFLAGS' and sync up your doc tree then try again. Okay, so I was working from an 8-9 hours' old tree. Still, maybe I'm being dumb, but I do not really see the point of the fix you committed. It definitely does not fix the problem I reported, as seen by: [roam@straylight:v4 ~/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd]$ make -V TIDYFLAGS -latin1 As you can see, still no -m :( As I already said, I do not see the point of 'VAR?= blah ${VAR}'. This statement only ever changes the value of VAR if VAR *is not set*. In that case, ${VAR} is empty, and VAR is set to 'blah'. If VAR is already set, then this statement will have absolutely no effect :) G'luck, Peter -- No language can express every thought unambiguously, least of all this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 8:37:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B0A37B418; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 08:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 71C814B65D; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 08:35:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 08:35:54 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Peter Pentchev Cc: Murray Stokely , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: TIDYFLAGS fixes all around the tree Message-ID: <20011106083554.W1818@windriver.com> References: <20011105175820.D77919@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20011105124156.D10872@windriver.com> <20011106125323.E10023@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0IvGJv3f9h+YhkrH" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011106125323.E10023@straylight.oblivion.bg>; from roam@ringlet.net on Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 12:53:25PM +0200 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0IvGJv3f9h+YhkrH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 12:53:25PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > Okay, so I was working from an 8-9 hours' old tree. Still, maybe > I'm being dumb, but I do not really see the point of the fix you > committed. It definitely does not fix the problem I reported, > as seen by: >=20 > [roam@straylight:v4 ~/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd]$ m= ake -V TIDYFLAGS > -latin1 >=20 > As you can see, still no -m :( [amd] /usr/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd> make TIDYFLAGS=3D-lati= n1 [ jade output snipped ] /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -f /dev/null -latin1 article.html Can't open "/export/home/murray/.tidyrc" *** Error code 1 (ignored) Seems to be working now. =20 TIDYFLAGS is the user settable variable for additional flags to tidy, while 'TIDYOPTS' is the internal makefile variable for the complete set of flags to tidy. TIDYOPTS=3D ${TIDYFLAGS} > As I already said, I do not see the point of 'VAR?=3D blah ${VAR}'. TIDY?=3D ${PREFIX}/bin/tidy TIDYOPTS?=3D -i -m -f /dev/null ${TIDYFLAGS} This is not a case of VAR?=3D blah ${VAR}. It is a case of B?=3D bla ${A} > This statement only ever changes the value of VAR if VAR *is not set*. > In that case, ${VAR} is empty, and VAR is set to 'blah'. If VAR is > already set, then this statement will have absolutely no effect :) I agree. If you find a case like that in our makefiles, please fix it. ;) - Murray --0IvGJv3f9h+YhkrH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE76BFptNcQog5FH30RAoRUAJ0WOS+GDc3PbxpriRL4osKXzzoShQCfXzAh 2cvgbQL68QUrfKEUWJKzmoY= =zZ1K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0IvGJv3f9h+YhkrH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 8:41:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD5237B416; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 08:41:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA6GfZ521092; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 08:41:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200111061641.fA6GfZ521092@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Michael Lucas Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: still more on pointing to relnotes In-Reply-To: <20011105145601.A91975@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20011105143006.A91718@blackhelicopters.org> <200111051943.fA5Jhxk10328@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <20011105145601.A91975@blackhelicopters.org> Comments: In-reply-to Michael Lucas message dated "Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:56:02 -0500." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-236021162P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 08:41:35 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-236021162P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Michael Lucas wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 11:43:59AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > > PS. I don't know how often we need to refer to the errata file, but > > that's another candidate for entitification. > > > > I thought of that, but didn't see any place where we'd need them, so > didn't care enough to suggest it. It's certainly a trivial change, > but I hate to introduce things we'll never need... Good point. The one place that came to mind was the installation chapter. But I don't remember if it's used anywhere else. Bruce. --==_Exmh_-236021162P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE76BK+2MoxcVugUsMRAilTAKClB7DZNvkuJd485CUwvBvTmW+HNACgqQXn l3n9/G2eXrm/LbaaQK6fIAc= =BnlX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-236021162P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 9: 5:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (sentinel.office1.bg [217.75.134.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97E2437B417 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:05:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 47593 invoked by uid 1000); 6 Nov 2001 16:33:30 -0000 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 18:33:30 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Murray Stokely Cc: Murray Stokely , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: TIDYFLAGS fixes all around the tree Message-ID: <20011106183330.J10023@straylight.oblivion.bg> References: <20011105175820.D77919@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20011105124156.D10872@windriver.com> <20011106125323.E10023@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20011106083554.W1818@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011106083554.W1818@windriver.com>; from murray.stokely@windriver.com on Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 08:35:54AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 08:35:54AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 12:53:25PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > Okay, so I was working from an 8-9 hours' old tree. Still, maybe > > I'm being dumb, but I do not really see the point of the fix you > > committed. It definitely does not fix the problem I reported, > > as seen by: > > > > [roam@straylight:v4 ~/fbsd/r/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd]$ make -V TIDYFLAGS > > -latin1 > > > > As you can see, still no -m :( > > [amd] /usr/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/explaining-bsd> make TIDYFLAGS=-latin1 > [ jade output snipped ] > /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -f /dev/null -latin1 article.html > Can't open "/export/home/murray/.tidyrc" > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > > Seems to be working now. > > TIDYFLAGS is the user settable variable for additional flags to tidy, > while 'TIDYOPTS' is the internal makefile variable for the complete > set of flags to tidy. > > TIDYOPTS= ${TIDYFLAGS} Eep. Okay. Point taken. Never Never Never reply to e-mail in the early morning hours (like 11am).. Yes, I tested an actual build now, and it seems to work.. thanks! :) > > As I already said, I do not see the point of 'VAR?= blah ${VAR}'. > > TIDY?= ${PREFIX}/bin/tidy > TIDYOPTS?= -i -m -f /dev/null ${TIDYFLAGS} > > This is not a case of VAR?= blah ${VAR}. It is a case of B?= bla ${A} Yep.. I need to look a bit more careful next time :) > > This statement only ever changes the value of VAR if VAR *is not set*. > > In that case, ${VAR} is empty, and VAR is set to 'blah'. If VAR is > > already set, then this statement will have absolutely no effect :) > > I agree. If you find a case like that in our makefiles, please fix > it. ;) Sure will :) G'luck, Peter -- "yields falsehood, when appended to its quotation." yields falsehood, when appended to its quotation. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 10:10:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C3537B41A for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA6IA1868361; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B7E37B416 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:08:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA96675; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:08:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111061808.NAA96675@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:08:33 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31803 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook make world addition >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Nov 06 10:10:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: current -doc tree >Description: Explanation of common steps to take when make world fails. This crops up every so often. taken from email by: cjc@freebsd.org >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml-dist Tue Nov 6 12:36:21 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml Tue Nov 6 13:05:08 2001 *************** *** 1580,1585 **** --- 1580,1612 ---- + + + + What do I do if something goes wrong? + + + + Make absolutely sure your environment has no + extraneous cruft from earlier builds. This is simple + enough. + + &prompt.root; cd /usr/obj + &prompt.root; chflags -R noschg * + &prompt.root; rm -rf * + &prompt.root; cd /usr/src + &prompt.root; make cleandir + &prompt.root; make cleandir + + Then restart the whole process, starting + with make buildworld. + + If you still have problems, send the error and the + output of uname -ato &a.questions;. + Be prepared to answer other questions about your + setup! + + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 10:20:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12EB37B419 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA6IK8269248; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:20:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:20:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111061820.fA6IK8269248@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ceri Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Reply-To: Ceri Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31803; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 18:15:04 +0000 On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 01:08:33PM -0500, mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org said: > + &prompt.root; make cleandir > + &prompt.root; make cleandir I think it would be worth an additional note stating that this step is intended to be repeated. Ceri -- I probably wouldn't like you. Really. I really probably wouldn't like you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 10:30: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5B937B419 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA6IU1H70229; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4E037B416 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA96865; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:26:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111061826.NAA96865@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:26:57 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31805: extra word in make buildworld chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31805 >Category: docs >Synopsis: extra word in make buildworld chapter >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Nov 06 10:30:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: today's -doc tree >Description: There's an extra word in this sentence. The sentence should either read "use the installworld target" or "use installworld". I opted for the latter, but fix it as you like. >How-To-Repeat: read the Handbook. >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml-dist Tue Nov 6 12:36:21 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml Tue Nov 6 13:24:13 2001 *************** *** 1003,1009 **** Install the New System Binaries If you were building a version of &os; recent enough to have ! used make buildworld then you should now use the installworld to install the new system binaries. --- 1003,1009 ---- Install the New System Binaries If you were building a version of &os; recent enough to have ! used make buildworld then you should now use installworld to install the new system binaries. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 10:40: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5A837B416 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA6Ie2V71154; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111061840.fA6Ie2V71154@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Reply-To: Michael Lucas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31803; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Michael Lucas To: Ceri Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:30:43 -0500 On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 06:15:04PM +0000, Ceri wrote: > I think it would be worth an additional note stating that this step > is intended to be repeated. But our users really do type everything in exactly as they're told, don't they? ;-) Good idea, how's this? *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml-dist Tue Nov 6 12:36:21 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml Tue Nov 6 13:29:19 2001 *************** *** 1580,1585 **** --- 1580,1615 ---- + + + + What do I do if something goes wrong? + + + + Make absolutely sure your environment has no + extraneous cruft from earlier builds. This is simple + enough. + + &prompt.root; cd /usr/obj + &prompt.root; chflags -R noschg * + &prompt.root; rm -rf * + &prompt.root; cd /usr/src + &prompt.root; make cleandir + &prompt.root; make cleandir + + Yes, make cleandir really should + be run twice. + + Then restart the whole process, starting + with make buildworld. + + If you still have problems, send the error and the + output of uname -ato &a.questions;. + Be prepared to answer other questions about your + setup! + + -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 11: 1:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cartman.private.techsupport.co.uk (cabletel1.cableol.net [194.168.3.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135AD37B419; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ceri by cartman.private.techsupport.co.uk with local (Exim 3.31 #1) id 161BSE-0004Ez-00; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 19:00:10 +0000 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 19:00:10 +0000 From: Ceri To: Michael Lucas Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Message-ID: <20011106190010.A16145@cartman.private.techsupport.co.uk> References: <200111061840.fA6Ie2V71154@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111061840.fA6Ie2V71154@freefall.freebsd.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 10:40:02AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 10:40:02AM -0800, Michael Lucas said: > > Good idea, how's this? Looks good to me. Ceri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 11:10: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD45237B418 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA6JA1x78309; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:10:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111061910.fA6JA1x78309@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ceri Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Reply-To: Ceri Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31803; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri To: Michael Lucas Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 19:00:10 +0000 On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 10:40:02AM -0800, Michael Lucas said: > > Good idea, how's this? Looks good to me. Ceri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 11:40: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B762D37B419 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA6Je0T83905; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:40:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FEF37B419 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:36:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA6JaMP83053; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:36:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200111061936.fA6JaMP83053@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:36:22 -0800 (PST) From: markus ryynänen To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/31807: Misspelled NMBCLUSTER in man dummynet(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31807 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Misspelled NMBCLUSTER in man dummynet(4) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Nov 06 11:40:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: markus ryynänen >Release: 4.4-STABLE >Organization: >Environment: i386 >Description: Misspelled NMBCLUSTERS in man dummynet(4) >How-To-Repeat: man dummynet >Fix: Misspelled kernle option NMBCLUSTER in man dummynet(4) should state NMBCLUSTERS (in plural). >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 11:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198DC37B419 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA6Jo1i85591; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8973C37B418 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA97450; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 14:48:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111061948.OAA97450@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 14:48:51 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31808: fix runon sentence in FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31808 >Category: docs >Synopsis: >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Nov 06 11:50:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: -current -doc tree >Description: There's a runon sentence in the FAQ. >How-To-Repeat: read it. :) >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Mon Nov 5 10:49:36 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Tue Nov 6 14:31:57 2001 *************** *** 993,1001 **** Prior to release 3.1, you only needed one floppy image to install FreeBSD, namely floppies/boot.flp. ! However, since release 3.1 the Project has added base support ! for a wide variety of hardware which needed more space, and ! thus for 3.x and 4.x we now use two floppy images, namely floppies/kernel.flp and floppies/mfsroot.flp. These images need to be copied onto floppies by tools like --- 993,1001 ---- Prior to release 3.1, you only needed one floppy image to install FreeBSD, namely floppies/boot.flp. ! However, since release 3.1 the Project has added out-of-the-box support ! for a wide variety of hardware, which takes up more space. ! For 3.x and later you need two floppy images: floppies/kernel.flp and floppies/mfsroot.flp. These images need to be copied onto floppies by tools like >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 13: 5:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (verlaine.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDEF37B405 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:05:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5806103 invoked by uid 0); 6 Nov 2001 20:54:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.229.145]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 6 Nov 2001 20:54:29 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA6KsR036677; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 21:54:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200111062054.fA6KsR036677@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition In-Reply-To: <200111061840.fA6Ie2V71154@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Michael Lucas Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 21:54:26 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-Face: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL95a (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Lucas wrote: [snip] > + &prompt.root; cd /usr/obj > + &prompt.root; chflags -R noschg * > + &prompt.root; rm -rf * to avoid disasters, it would be better to say : chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/. (/. to travers symlinks) rm -rf /usr/obj/* (or find /usr/obj/. -depth -delete) so, if /usr/obj doesn't exists and the user makes a cut and paste, this has no effect on the current directory... Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 15: 8: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEA437B417 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 15:08:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a117.otenet.gr [212.205.215.117]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fA6N7uK16056; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 01:07:56 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA6LhT915836; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 23:43:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 23:43:29 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Michael Lucas Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Message-ID: <20011106234328.A15786@hades.hell.gr> References: <200111061840.fA6Ie2V71154@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200111061840.fA6Ie2V71154@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 10:40:02AM -0800, Michael Lucas wrote: > > Good idea, how's this? > > + &prompt.root; cd /usr/obj > + &prompt.root; chflags -R noschg * > + &prompt.root; rm -rf * > + &prompt.root; cd /usr/src > + &prompt.root; make cleandir > + &prompt.root; make cleandir Play safe here. Don't suggest commands that contain wildcard characters, since Bad Things(TM) can happen if someone runs the commands and somehow ``fails'' to change to the proper directory. I'd probably write the first three commands like: &prompt.root; chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr &prompt.root; rm -fr /usr/obj/usr But this is just me being paranoid. Excellent stuff Michael :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 16: 6:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C798B37B417; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 16:06:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA98852; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 19:06:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 19:06:26 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Message-ID: <20011106190626.A98808@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200111061840.fA6Ie2V71154@freefall.freebsd.org> <20011106234328.A15786@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20011106234328.A15786@hades.hell.gr>; from charon@labs.gr on Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 11:43:29PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > Play safe here. Don't suggest commands that contain wildcard > characters, since Bad Things(TM) can happen if someone runs the > commands and somehow ``fails'' to change to the proper directory. You know, I give you people something for free, and you just gripe. :) How's this? ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=build-errors *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml-dist Tue Nov 6 12:36:21 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml Tue Nov 6 13:29:19 2001 *************** *** 1580,1585 **** --- 1580,1615 ---- + + + + What do I do if something goes wrong? + + + + Make absolutely sure your environment has no + extraneous cruft from earlier builds. This is simple + enough. + + &prompt.root; cd /usr/obj + &prompt.root; chflags -R noschg * + &prompt.root; rm -rf * + &prompt.root; cd /usr/src + &prompt.root; make cleandir + &prompt.root; make cleandir + + Yes, make cleandir really should + be run twice. + + Then restart the whole process, starting + with make buildworld. + + If you still have problems, send the error and the + output of uname -ato &a.questions;. + Be prepared to answer other questions about your + setup! + + --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 16:10: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5321D37B418 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 16:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA70A1032038; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 16:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 16:10:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111070010.fA70A1032038@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Reply-To: Michael Lucas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31803; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Michael Lucas To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 19:06:26 -0500 --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > Play safe here. Don't suggest commands that contain wildcard > characters, since Bad Things(TM) can happen if someone runs the > commands and somehow ``fails'' to change to the proper directory. You know, I give you people something for free, and you just gripe. :) How's this? ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=build-errors *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml-dist Tue Nov 6 12:36:21 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml Tue Nov 6 13:29:19 2001 *************** *** 1580,1585 **** --- 1580,1615 ---- + + + + What do I do if something goes wrong? + + + + Make absolutely sure your environment has no + extraneous cruft from earlier builds. This is simple + enough. + + &prompt.root; cd /usr/obj + &prompt.root; chflags -R noschg * + &prompt.root; rm -rf * + &prompt.root; cd /usr/src + &prompt.root; make cleandir + &prompt.root; make cleandir + + Yes, make cleandir really should + be run twice. + + Then restart the whole process, starting + with make buildworld. + + If you still have problems, send the error and the + output of uname -ato &a.questions;. + Be prepared to answer other questions about your + setup! + + --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 19: 6:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from postal.netaxs.com (postal.netaxs.com [207.8.186.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B5E37B405 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 19:06:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from alum.mit.edu (root@unix5.netaxs.com [207.8.186.7]) by postal.netaxs.com (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) with ESMTP id fA736XoU004416 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 22:06:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BE8A534.ECD2C3B0@alum.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 22:06:28 -0500 From: Jed Clear Organization: Dis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Mailing List Archives Search working? Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms689C31783BEAC76521AEA041" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms689C31783BEAC76521AEA041 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I kept getting no results searching the mailing list archives from http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists. Finally I did a search for "install*" in Bugs and Config for Search=All and got no hits. This seems unlikely. Especially when I can find a few examples by browsing. 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From: Munehiro Matsuda To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 12:51:24 +0900 > + &prompt.root; cd /usr/obj > + &prompt.root; chflags -R noschg * > + &prompt.root; rm -rf * I've heard that doing following command is much more faster, than the above. cd /usr/obj rm -rf * chflags -R noschg * rm -rf * Just my $0.02, Haro =----------------------------------------------------------------------- _ _ Munehiro (haro) Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| e-Collaboration Group, Kubota Graphics Technology Inc. /|\ |_| |_|_| 2-8-8 Shinjuku, Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 160-0022, Japan Tel: +81-3-3225-0936 Fax: +81-3-3225-0740 Email: haro@kubota.co.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 6 20:59: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.qzptt.zj.cn (mail.qzptt.zj.cn [202.96.113.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A385337B405 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 20:58:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from html([61.175.52.202]) by mail.qzptt.zj.cn(JetMail 2.5.3.0) with SMTP id jm63be90095; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 04:57:05 -0000 From: my7509@163.com To: oicq18214365@sina.com Subject: ÄúÈç¹ûÊÇһλ²»Ô¸·ÅÆúÈκλú»áµÄÈË Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:01:06 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="DEFAULT_CHARSET" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Message-Id: <20011107045857.A385337B405@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org New Page 1

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------=_NextPart_000_00ANd4C.0BN1FIXI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 2: 4:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21110.mail.yahoo.com (web21110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E8B237B416 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 02:04:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011107100431.26024.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.4] by web21110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 Nov 2001 02:04:31 PST Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 02:04:31 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: [PATCH] - URI Translation To: doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello all, i just wanted to let you all know, that this patch will/might help you in reducing traffic to send-pr.html. the current link to send-pr.html from /docproj/submiting.sgml points straight to http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html. This patch will help submitting.sgml take advantage of the mirror and not straight to freebsd.org/send-pr.html, which could help reduce traffic, or just point to its local mirror. It is a UUEncoded Patch. Patch Starts Here: (dont copy the dashed lines) ------------------------------------------------------- *** submitting.sgml.old Wed Nov 7 09:52:45 2001 --- submitting.sgml Wed Nov 7 09:54:24 2001 *************** *** 81,87 **** be used to track its progress.

Alternatively, you can use the web interface at http://www.FreeBSD.org/send-pr.html.

I have made some changes to existing documentation, how do I submit them?

--- 81,87 ---- be used to track its progress.

Alternatively, you can use the web interface at http://www.FreeBSD.org/send-pr.html.

I have made some changes to existing documentation, how do I submit them?

---------------------------------------------------- thanks, regards, Hiten Pandya http://www.geocities.com/hitmaster2k __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 3:39:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F54E37B417 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 03:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.167]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28964 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:44:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02920 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:44:25 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:44:25 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: new virtual host cvsweb.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20011107114425.A2849@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, the new virtual host http://cvsweb.freebsd.org is up and running. cvsweb.freebsd.org is a nickname for the cgi script cvsweb.cgi Any request to cvsweb.freebsd.org will be redirected to http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi If you provide a filename, the filename will be redirected too. E.g. http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/src/bin/cat/cat.c => http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/bin/cat/cat.c The filename can be any filename below /home/ncvs in the FreeBSD CVS tree. -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 4:33:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D36137B43F for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 04:33:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA00752; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:33:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:33:45 -0500 To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: docs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Message-ID: <20011107073345.A708@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200111061840.fA6Ie2V71154@freefall.freebsd.org> <20011106234328.A15786@hades.hell.gr> <20011106190626.A98808@blackhelicopters.org> <20011107021223.A18185@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i hFrom: Michael Lucas In-Reply-To: <20011107021223.A18185@hades.hell.gr>; from charon@labs.gr on Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:12:24AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I sent the wrong patch, sorry.... here's the one I meant to upload. Apparently, what I get for knocking it off quick before bed is public humiliation. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=build-errors *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml-dist Tue Nov 6 12:36:21 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml Wed Nov 7 07:28:14 2001 *************** *** 1580,1585 **** --- 1580,1614 ---- + + + + What do I do if something goes wrong? + + + + Make absolutely sure your environment has no + extraneous cruft from earlier builds. This is simple + enough. + + &prompt.root; chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr + &prompt.root; rm -rf /usr/obj/usr + &prompt.root; cd /usr/src + &prompt.root; make cleandir + &prompt.root; make cleandir + + Yes, make cleandir really should + be run twice. + + Then restart the whole process, starting + withmake buildworld. + + If you still have problems, send the error and the + output of uname -ato &a.questions;. + Be prepared to answer other questions about your + setup! + + --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 4:41:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D645A37B416; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 04:41:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fA7Cd7W15889; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:39:07 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:39:07 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: murray@FreeBSD.org Cc: swear@blarg.net, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31271: rl(4) discourages vender openness by disparaging remarks. Message-ID: <20011107123907.U99754@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200111050923.fA59NCZ43274@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UNrMg7q4I5bA1PGX" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111050923.fA59NCZ43274@freefall.freebsd.org>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 01:23:12AM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --UNrMg7q4I5bA1PGX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 01:23:12AM -0800, murray@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: rl(4) discourages vender openness by disparaging remarks. >=20 > State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed > State-Changed-By: murray > State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 5 01:21:58 PST 2001 > State-Changed-Why:=20 > Does anyone else have an opinion on the subject? Should we keep this > text or tone it down a bit? I'm not even going to dare bring this up > with the driver author (wpaul) for fear he will take the opportunity > to add even more colorful language to describe RealTek. ;) I'd tone it down, or, if we're feeling anal, make it a comment in the man page. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --UNrMg7q4I5bA1PGX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjvpK2sACgkQk6gHZCw343XqMwCdE8Va6KcbaZCAvrp3YYz17HBK ausAn1QYdLUXM9VlOZnmZrmr6jgFvGry =4tx3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UNrMg7q4I5bA1PGX-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 4:50:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD2F37B419 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 04:50:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7Co3n65508; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 04:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 04:50:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111071250.fA7Co3n65508@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Reply-To: Michael Lucas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31803; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Michael Lucas To: haro@kubota.co.jp Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/31803: Handbook make world addition Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:44:09 -0500 On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 12:51:24PM +0900, Munehiro Matsuda wrote: > > + &prompt.root; cd /usr/obj > > + &prompt.root; chflags -R noschg * > > + &prompt.root; rm -rf * > > I've heard that doing following command is much more faster, than the above. > cd /usr/obj > rm -rf * > chflags -R noschg * > rm -rf * It is faster, but it's (IMHO) not always as correct. First, I've redone the patch at multiple requests to eliminate the wildcards. It's been pointed out that "rm -rf *" isn't a good thing to recommend. Under earlier versions of FreeBSD, some files in /usr/obj were marked noschg. A user could use your example to delete the tree if he didn't care about the errors. Under newer versions of FreeBSD, /usr/obj has no schg files. The first rm -rf will delete the whole tree, and the other commands will either generate errors or have no effect. I'm trying to write a single entry that covers all versions of FreeBSD. More experienced readers will easily understand that we're telling them to remove /usr/obj/usr by any means necessary, and will use their preferred method to do so. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 5:42:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F8437B421 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:42:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ark.cris.net (ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27831; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:42:27 +0200 (EET) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fA7Dfv715138; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:41:57 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:41:57 +0200 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new virtual host cvsweb.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20011107154157.A12348@ark.cris.net> References: <20011107114425.A2849@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20011107114425.A2849@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de>; from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de on Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 11:44:25AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 11:44:25AM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > the new virtual host http://cvsweb.freebsd.org is up and running. > cvsweb.freebsd.org is a nickname for the cgi script cvsweb.cgi > > Any request to cvsweb.freebsd.org will be redirected to > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi > > If you provide a filename, the filename will be redirected too. > E.g. > > http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/src/bin/cat/cat.c > > => > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/bin/cat/cat.c > > The filename can be any filename below /home/ncvs in the > FreeBSD CVS tree. Newflash entry ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 5:44:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com (gadolinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F8237B41A for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:44:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [213.1.168.223] (helo=fluoxetine.lan) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #6) id 161SwT-0004UA-00; Wed, 07 Nov 2001 13:40:33 +0000 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:42:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew McKay X-Sender: andy@fluoxetine.lan To: Hiten Pandya Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [PATCH] - URI Translation In-Reply-To: <20011107100431.26024.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Hiten Pandya wrote: hp> hello all, i just wanted to let you all know, that this patch hp> will/might help you in reducing traffic to send-pr.html. I don't seek, wish or intend to seem rude but I do find it somewhat ironic that you would submit a patch related to the patch-submission system without using that system. I have no idea whether your patch would be considered worthwhile or not. The fact that it has been ignored twice does not necessarily indicate that it is unwanted but I would doubt that it is considered a priority item. If I were you I would re-submit your patch using send-pr (in any one of its many forms) so that it can be tracked properly and is sitting in a database (rather than a mail archive) until someone gets around to processing it. There may well be technical reasons why all requests are sent to www.freebsd.org (like...maybe not all mirrors host/allow the cgi required to operate the send-pr system) or it may be that the reduction in traffic would not actually be worth the effort. But even though this may not be worthwhile I would still send-pr about it. -- Andrew McKay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 5:49:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158DC37B41A; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:48:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7Dm1R82910; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:48:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:48:01 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111071348.fA7Dm1R82910@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31780: tweak to PAO link Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: tweak to PAO link State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 7 05:47:52 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31780 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 5:49:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3FE37B416; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7Dj2U82410; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:45:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:45:02 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111071345.fA7Dj2U82410@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nils@tisys.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31777: Outdated Information about making a custom release Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Outdated Information about making a custom release State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 7 05:43:53 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31777 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 5:56: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.trit.org (bazooka.trit.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA5B37B41D for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by bazooka.trit.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0F3DF3F90; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bazooka (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.trit.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3C53C12F; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:55:50 +0000 (UTC) To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Wolfram Schneider , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new virtual host cvsweb.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20011107154157.A12348@ark.cris.net>; from phantom@ark.cris.net on "Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:41:57 +0200" Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 13:55:45 +0000 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20011107135550.0F3DF3F90@bazooka.trit.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexey Zelkin wrote: > hi, > > On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 11:44:25AM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > the new virtual host http://cvsweb.freebsd.org is up and running. > > cvsweb.freebsd.org is a nickname for the cgi script cvsweb.cgi > > > > Any request to cvsweb.freebsd.org will be redirected to > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi > > > > If you provide a filename, the filename will be redirected too. > > E.g. > > > > http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/src/bin/cat/cat.c > > > > => > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/bin/cat/cat.c > > > > The filename can be any filename below /home/ncvs in the > > FreeBSD CVS tree. > > Newflash entry ? I don't see why. This is nothing new, it's just another way to the same thing. Your post to -developers was on the mark, though (since that's where people asked for it in the first place). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 6:10: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107CF37B41A for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7EA1L88318; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB52E37B405 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01617; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 09:09:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111071409.JAA01617@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 09:09:22 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31821: new FAQ: du/df Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31821 >Category: docs >Synopsis: new FAQ: du/df >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Nov 07 06:10:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: yesterday's -doc tree >Description: People have asked several times about the difference between du and df; specifically, the example cited below keeps happening. >How-To-Repeat: read -questions >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Mon Nov 5 10:49:36 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Wed Nov 7 09:05:22 2001 *************** *** 5869,5874 **** --- 5869,5921 ---- + + The du and df + commands show different amounts of disk space available? + What's going on? + + + + You need to understand what du and + df really do. du + shows how much of the disk is designated used by + files. df shows how much of + the disk is designated free. While + they seem to be opposite, that isn't exactly true. + + When a program has a file open, and you delete the + file, it isn't really deleted until the program releases + the file. You can see this easily enough with a program + such as more. If you delete a file + while using more on it, + more doesn't immediately choke and + complain that it cannot view the file. You cannot access + the file from anywhere except that more + window. If the file is large enough, + df will show that it is gone. The + space the file took up is now designated free. + du will show that it is still there, as + the space the file uses is still technically in use. Once + you end the more session, + du and df will + agree. + + Note that softupdates can delay the freeing of disk + space; you might need to wait up to 30 seconds for the + change to be visible! + + This situation is common on web servers. Many people + set up a FreeBSD web server and forget to rotate the log + files. The access log fills up /var. + The new administrator deletes the file, but the system + still complains that the partition is full. Stopping and + restarting the web server program would free the file, + allowing the system to release the disk space. To prevent + this from happening, set up &man.newsyslog.8;. + + + + How can I add more swap space? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 6:16:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.trit.org (bazooka.trit.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7442137B416 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:16:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by bazooka.trit.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 34CF03F90; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bazooka (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.trit.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AB53C12F; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:16:32 +0000 (UTC) To: Mathieu Arnold Cc: FreeBSD doc Subject: Re: FreeBSD web site (site map) In-Reply-To: <3BE6E2AC.D401B28D@club-internet.fr>; from mat@mat.cc on "Mon, 05 Nov 2001 20:04:12 +0100" Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 14:16:27 +0000 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20011107141632.34CF03F90@bazooka.trit.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mathieu Arnold wrote: > Hi > > I don't know if I'm posting to the right mailing list, but, anyway > I was looking at the site map, and in the support section, there is > "Projects" twice. > I believe that as the first leads to a link to the second, a : Committed, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 6:38:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D38737B416; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:38:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7EZZa07247; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:35:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:35:35 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111071435.fA7EZZa07247@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31805: extra word in make buildworld chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: extra word in make buildworld chapter State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 7 06:35:27 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31805 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 6:39: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5737837B416; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7Eb3h16766; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:37:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:37:03 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111071437.fA7Eb3h16766@freefall.freebsd.org> To: markus.ryynanen@kolumbus_nospam.fi, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31807: Misspelled NMBCLUSTER in man dummynet(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Misspelled NMBCLUSTER in man dummynet(4) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 7 06:36:53 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31807 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 6:40: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6686E37B418 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7Ee5q32228; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:40:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:40:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111071440.fA7Ee5q32228@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Michael Lucas Subject: docs/31446 Reply-To: Michael Lucas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31446; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Michael Lucas To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: docs/31446 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 09:33:48 -0500 anoncvs.freebsd.org is back! I think we can close this PR. -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 6:40:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC2837B42C for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7Ee7G32299; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:40:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111071440.fA7Ee7G32299@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/31785: FAQ addition: advanced topics Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31785; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31785: FAQ addition: advanced topics Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 14:34:27 +0000 mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org wrote: > *** book.sgml-dist Mon Nov 5 10:49:36 2001 > --- book.sgml Mon Nov 5 12:54:41 2001 > *************** > *** 11602,11607 **** > --- 11602,11624 ---- > Advanced Topics > > > + This newline isn't necessary. > + > + > + How can I learn more about FreeBSD's internals? > + > + > + > + At this time, there is no book on FreeBSD-specific OS > + internals. Much general UNIX knowledge is directly > + applicable to FreeBSD, however. Additionally, there are > + BSD-specific books that are still relevant. > + > + For a list, please check the + linkend="bibliography">FAQ bibliography. Hmm, how about a link to the "Operating System Internals" section of the Handbook Bibliography? There's little in the above link that would actually help the reader. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 6:58:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924EE37B416; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:58:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7EshV08375; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:54:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:54:43 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111071454.fA7EshV08375@freefall.freebsd.org> To: minoura@valinux.co.jp, tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31446: anoncvs.freebsd.org is down for quite a while, but there's no notice Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: anoncvs.freebsd.org is down for quite a while, but there's no notice State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: tom State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 7 06:53:50 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Closed at originator's request - anoncvs.FreeBSD.org is back! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31446 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 7:10:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD88F37B417 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7FA2K14003; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111071510.fA7FA2K14003@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/31821: new FAQ: du/df Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31821; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31821: new FAQ: du/df Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 15:06:27 +0000 mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org wrote: > *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Mon Nov 5 10:49:36 2001 > --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Wed Nov 7 09:05:22 2001 > *************** > *** 5869,5874 **** > --- 5869,5921 ---- > > > > + > + The du and df > + commands show different amounts of disk space available? Is this first sentence really a question (i.e., does the question mark belong there)? > + What's going on? > + > + > + > + You need to understand what du and > + df really do. du > + shows how much of the disk is designated used by > + files. df shows how much of > + the disk is designated free. While > + they seem to be opposite, that isn't exactly true. I think the distinction isn't what they do, but how they do it; if one knows how much space is in use and the size of the disk, one can compute how much space is free. On the other hand, how they do it matters: du traverses the directory tree and counts how much space is in use by each file. If a file has no directory entry, it won't be counted. On the other hand, df just asks the filesystem how much space it thinks is in use, and the filesystem doesn't care whether files have directory entires or not, just as long as they take up space on the disk. > + > + When a program has a file open, and you delete the > + file, it isn't really deleted until the program releases > + the file. You can see this easily enough with a program > + such as more. If you delete a file > + while using more on it, > + more doesn't immediately choke and > + complain that it cannot view the file. You cannot access > + the file from anywhere except that more > + window. This is a very good example. > If the file is large enough, This shouldn't (and doesn't) matter. People just tend to notice when they're missing 18M instead of 18K :-). > + df will show that it is gone. The > + space the file took up is now designated free. > + du will show that it is still there, as > + the space the file uses is still technically in use. Once > + you end the more session, > + du and df will > + agree. This is backwards. 'du' typically reports less space is in use, not df (if you wrote this looking at the recent thread on -stable, note that the originator misnamed the output; what he claimed was from du was from df, and vice versa). The reason is that 'rm' removes the file's directory entry, so 'du' never sees it, but 'df' does. See above where I explained why 'df' seems it. Here's a small example to demonstrate my point. (Note that I cleaned up the `script' output a little to make it more readable.) Script started on Wed Nov 7 14:50:19 2001 root@mirage# mdmfs -s 32m md /mnt root@mirage# cd /mnt root@mirage# dd if=/dev/random of=fish bs=1m count=20 20+0 records in 20+0 records out 20971520 bytes transferred in 27.938557 secs (750630 bytes/sec) root@mirage# cat>open.c #include #include int main(void) { int d = open("fish", O_RDONLY); pause(); } ^D root@mirage# make open cc -O -pipe open.c -o open root@mirage# ./open & [1] 20447 root@mirage# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 254063 68466 165272 29% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/ad0s1f 2554468 600470 1749641 26% /usr /dev/ad0s1e 1016303 226578 708421 24% /var /dev/md0c 32476 20520 9360 69% /mnt root@mirage# du 20520 . root@mirage# rm fish root@mirage# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 254063 68466 165272 29% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/ad0s1f 2554468 600470 1749641 26% /usr /dev/ad0s1e 1016303 226578 708421 24% /var /dev/md0c 32476 20520 9360 69% /mnt root@mirage# du 16 . root@mirage# killall open [1] + Terminated ./open root@mirage# sync root@mirage# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 254063 68466 165272 29% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/ad0s1f 2554468 600470 1749641 26% /usr /dev/ad0s1e 1016303 226578 708421 24% /var /dev/md0c 32476 16 29864 0% /mnt root@mirage# du 16 . root@mirage# exit Script done on Wed Nov 7 14:52:01 2001 Notes: - The `open' program just opens the file and keeps it open until it's killed. I didn't use `more' as you did in your example because I wouldn't be able to show when I started and killed it (it needs a tty). - The `sync' command isn't instantaneous; about 10 seconds passed between the sync and the subsequent df which shows the space is free. This is because of softupdates. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 7:18:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8A737B417; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:18:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7FA0g13987; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:10:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:10:00 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111071510.fA7FA0g13987@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31808: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 7 07:09:40 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31808 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 8:20:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4892837B418 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7GK2O26503; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:20:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111071620.fA7GK2O26503@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: docs/31821: new FAQ: du/df Reply-To: Michael Lucas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31821; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Michael Lucas To: Dima Dorfman Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31821: new FAQ: du/df Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:10:34 -0500 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 03:06:27PM +0000, Dima Dorfman wrote: > This is backwards. 'du' typically reports less space is in use, not > df (if you wrote this looking at the recent thread on -stable, note > that the originator misnamed the output; what he claimed was from du > was from df, and vice versa). Aha! That confused me, but I'm not going to argue with actual output. You've gone to a lot of trouble to prove me wrong, but I'm a tech writer. I assume that I will be proven wrong. :) Here's another patch, addressing your points. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=du-vs-df *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Mon Nov 5 10:49:36 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Wed Nov 7 11:09:10 2001 *************** *** 5869,5874 **** --- 5869,5929 ---- + + The du and df + commands show different amounts of disk space available. + What's going on? + + + + You need to understand what du and + df really do. du + goes through the directory tree, measures how large each + file is, and presents the totals. df + just asks the filesystem how much space it has left. They + seem to be the same thing, but a file without a directory + entry will affect df but not + du. + + When a program is using a file, and you delete the + file, the file isn't really removed from the filesystem + until the program stops using it. The file is immediately + deleted from the directory listing, however. You can see + this easily enough with a program such as + more. Assume you have a file large + enough that its presence affects the output of + du and df. (Since + disks can be so large today, this might be a + very large file!) If you delete this + file while using more on it, + more doesn't immediately choke and + complain that it cannot view the file. The entry is + simply removed from the directory so no other program or + user can access it. du shows that it + is gone -- it has walked the directory tree and the file + isn't listed. df shows that it is + still there, as the filesystem knows that + more is still using that space. Once + you end the more session, + du and df will + agree. + + Note that softupdates can delay the freeing of disk + space; you might need to wait up to 30 seconds for the + change to be visible! + + This situation is common on web servers. Many people + set up a FreeBSD web server and forget to rotate the log + files. The access log fills up /var. + The new administrator deletes the file, but the system + still complains that the partition is full. Stopping and + restarting the web server program would free the file, + allowing the system to release the disk space. To prevent + this from happening, set up &man.newsyslog.8;. + + + + How can I add more swap space? --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 8:21:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A98137B417; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02666; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:21:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:21:50 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: tom@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: minoura@valinux.co.jp, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/31446: anoncvs.freebsd.org is down for quite a while, but there's no notice Message-ID: <20011107112150.B2610@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200111071454.fA7EshV08375@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200111071454.fA7EshV08375@freefall.freebsd.org>; from tom@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 06:54:43AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Uh, I'm not the originator. I'm just a guy who has nothing better to do than read FreeBSD mail and submit PRs about it. On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 06:54:43AM -0800, tom@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > Synopsis: anoncvs.freebsd.org is down for quite a while, but there's no notice > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: tom > State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 7 06:53:50 PST 2001 > State-Changed-Why: > Closed at originator's request - anoncvs.FreeBSD.org is back! > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31446 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 8:29: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A7837B41B; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7GSuS27867; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:28:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:28:56 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111071628.fA7GSuS27867@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31821: new FAQ: du/df Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: new FAQ: du/df State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 7 08:28:48 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied, thanks. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31821 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 8:29:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3418B37B41A for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:28:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 41687 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2001 16:28:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Nov 2001 16:28:54 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20011107114425.A2849@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 08:28:54 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Wolfram Schneider Subject: RE: new virtual host cvsweb.freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 07-Nov-01 Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > Hi, > > the new virtual host http://cvsweb.freebsd.org is up and running. > cvsweb.freebsd.org is a nickname for the cgi script cvsweb.cgi > > Any request to cvsweb.freebsd.org will be redirected to > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi > > If you provide a filename, the filename will be redirected too. > E.g. > > http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/src/bin/cat/cat.c > > => > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/bin/cat/cat.c > > The filename can be any filename below /home/ncvs in the > FreeBSD CVS tree. > > -Wolfram Yay! Thanks! -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 8:30:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AE237B405 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7GU1u27976; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:30:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111071630.fA7GU1u27976@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: docs/31785: FAQ addition: advanced topics Reply-To: Michael Lucas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31785; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Michael Lucas To: Dima Dorfman Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31785: FAQ addition: advanced topics Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:20:52 -0500 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:34:27PM +0000, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Hmm, how about a link to the "Operating System Internals" section of > the Handbook Bibliography? There's little in the above link that > would actually help the reader. Yep, much better idea! I recently reread the whole docproj, but still don't have everything down, sorry. See attached. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=learnmore *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Mon Nov 5 10:49:36 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Wed Nov 7 11:18:42 2001 *************** *** 11603,11608 **** --- 11603,11625 ---- + + How can I learn more about FreeBSD's internals? + + + + At this time, there is no book on FreeBSD-specific OS + internals. Much general UNIX knowledge is directly + applicable to FreeBSD, however. Additionally, there are + BSD-specific books that are still relevant. + + For a list, please check the Handbook's Operating + System Internals Bibliography. + + + + What are SNAPs and RELEASEs? --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 8:38:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6CB37B416; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:38:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7GYO128963; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:34:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:34:24 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111071634.fA7GYO128963@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31785: FAQ addition: advanced topics Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FAQ addition: advanced topics State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 7 08:34:10 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31785 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 9: 6:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (ns.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE18537B417 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 09:06:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ark.cris.net (ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA59474; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:06:30 +0200 (EET) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fA7H60C40908; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:06:00 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:06:00 +0200 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Andrew McKay Cc: Hiten Pandya , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [PATCH] - URI Translation Message-ID: <20011107190600.A34099@ark.cris.net> References: <20011107100431.26024.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from birminghamweb@freeuk.com on Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 01:42:08PM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 01:42:08PM +0000, Andrew McKay wrote: > On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Hiten Pandya wrote: > hp> hello all, i just wanted to let you all know, that this patch > hp> will/might help you in reducing traffic to send-pr.html. > I have no idea whether your patch would be considered worthwhile or not. > The fact that it has been ignored twice does not necessarily indicate that > it is unwanted but I would doubt that it is considered a priority item. Or busyness related people ;-( > If I were you I would re-submit your patch using send-pr (in any one of > its many forms) so that it can be tracked properly and is sitting in a > database (rather than a mail archive) until someone gets around to > processing it. It prefered way. But no need to re-submit this problem report. I am going to fix it soon. > There may well be technical reasons why all requests are sent to > www.freebsd.org (like...maybe not all mirrors host/allow the cgi required > to operate the send-pr system) or it may be that the reduction in traffic > would not actually be worth the effort. But even though this may not be > worthwhile I would still send-pr about it. This report is related to plain HTML pages and not related to CGI excution permision bit. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 9:11:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE36637B416 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 09:11:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hukins.hn.org ([62.255.97.58]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20011107171121.VXBK21455.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@hukins.hn.org> for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:11:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 12086 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Nov 2001 17:11:24 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:11:24 +0000 From: Tom Hukins To: Michael Lucas Cc: minoura@valinux.co.jp, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/31446: anoncvs.freebsd.org is down for quite a while, but there's no notice Message-ID: <20011107171124.A12037@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Hukins , Michael Lucas , minoura@valinux.co.jp, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200111071454.fA7EshV08375@freefall.freebsd.org> <20011107112150.B2610@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011107112150.B2610@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 11:21:50AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 11:21:50AM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > Uh, I'm not the originator. I'm just a guy who has nothing better to > do than read FreeBSD mail and submit PRs about it. Yes, sorry. I'm not sure why I thought you were, but today has been quite busy, so that's the lame excuse that I'll stick to... Thanks, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 11: 2:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21108.mail.yahoo.com (web21108.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8852537B41D for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:02:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011107190235.34916.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.4] by web21108.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 Nov 2001 11:02:35 PST Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:02:35 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: [PATCH] - URI Translation To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20011107190600.A34099@ark.cris.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, i have sent a PR, but i thought might as well send it to the doc mailing list for quick response... it is located in the misc category... thanks.. if this is the wrong way to send a patch... please advice me.... thanks.. regards, hiten pandya --- Alexey Zelkin wrote: > hi, > > On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 01:42:08PM +0000, Andrew > McKay wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Hiten Pandya wrote: > > > hp> hello all, i just wanted to let you all know, > that this patch > > hp> will/might help you in reducing traffic to > send-pr.html. > > > I have no idea whether your patch would be > considered worthwhile or not. > > The fact that it has been ignored twice does not > necessarily indicate that > > it is unwanted but I would doubt that it is > considered a priority item. > > Or busyness related people ;-( > > > If I were you I would re-submit your patch using > send-pr (in any one of > > its many forms) so that it can be tracked properly > and is sitting in a > > database (rather than a mail archive) until > someone gets around to > > processing it. > > It prefered way. But no need to re-submit this > problem report. I am going > to fix it soon. > > > There may well be technical reasons why all > requests are sent to > > www.freebsd.org (like...maybe not all mirrors > host/allow the cgi required > > to operate the send-pr system) or it may be that > the reduction in traffic > > would not actually be worth the effort. But even > though this may not be > > worthwhile I would still send-pr about it. > > This report is related to plain HTML pages and not > related to CGI excution > permision bit. > ===== thanks, regards, Hiten Pandya http://www.geocities.com/hitmaster2k __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 11:29: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E24D37B629; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7JKj867581; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:20:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:20:45 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111071920.fA7JKj867581@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/31787: diverting send-pr.html traffic to a local mirror Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: diverting send-pr.html traffic to a local mirror Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->doc Responsible-Changed-By: tom Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Nov 7 11:18:00 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: This is a -doc issue http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31787 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 11:39:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96E837B41A for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from cx400511a ([24.19.214.176]) by femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011107193912.QYXF26454.femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx400511a> for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:39:12 -0800 Message-ID: <000a01c15029$2ac02040$b0d61318@eureka1.ca.home.com> From: "Michael Morgan" To: Subject: Ftp Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 11:43:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C14FEE.7E0D5BE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C14FEE.7E0D5BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok what files do I need in the ftp do I need to get a full running version of freeBSD O/S running on my=20 computer,if this will help Pentium III ,128megs ram. 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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C14FEE.7E0D5BE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 11:40:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CB937B41D for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7Je0Q71812; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:40:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A04A37B416 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:30:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04062; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:30:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111071930.OAA04062@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:30:17 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31828: handbook FreeBSD Mall references? Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31828 >Category: docs >Synopsis: handbook FreeBSD Mall references? >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Nov 07 11:40:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: current -doc tree. >Description: We have two references in the Handbook to the FreeBSD Mall. Since Wind River has stopped supporting FreeBSD, this seems a bit out of place. I would suggest that either replace those links with links to another vendor, or just have no link and tell people to search for a supplier. I'm providing patches for the former, rather than the latter, as I think links are a) kinder to the end user, and b) the Daemon News folks are actually interested in contributing back to the community. I don't care which is done, I would just like to suggest that either is more appropriate than what we're doing now. >How-To-Repeat: This is my first stab at including two patches in a single file, so it might very well not behave well. Seems to work for me, on my badly mutilated -doc tree. :) >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml-dist Wed Nov 7 14:03:48 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml Wed Nov 7 14:18:56 2001 *************** *** 87,95 **** url="ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/">FreeBSD FTP server or one of the numerous mirror sites. If you would prefer ! to have a hard copy of the handbook, you can purchase one at the ! FreeBSD Mall. You may also want to search the handbook. --- 87,95 ---- url="ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/">FreeBSD FTP server or one of the numerous mirror sites. If you would prefer ! to have a hard copy of the handbook, you can purchase one at ! any bookstore, or at Daemon News Mall. You may also want to search the handbook. *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml-dist Wed Nov 7 14:23:46 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml Wed Nov 7 14:17:53 2001 *************** *** 684,690 **** As you may have guessed from the title, everything described in this section assumes you have a FreeBSD CDROM set. If you do not, you can order one from the FreeBSD Mall. Assuming that your FreeBSD CDROM is in the drive and is mounted on /cdrom (and the mount point --- 684,691 ---- As you may have guessed from the title, everything described in this section assumes you have a FreeBSD CDROM set. If you do not, you can order one from the Daemon News Mall ! or many other CD vendors. Assuming that your FreeBSD CDROM is in the drive and is mounted on /cdrom (and the mount point >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 11:59: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC7937B419; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:58:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7JpnM73557; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:51:49 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111071951.fA7JpnM73557@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/31570: Updated frontpage of the http://www.freebsd.org/ru/ site Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Updated frontpage of the http://www.freebsd.org/ru/ site Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->doc Responsible-Changed-By: tom Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Nov 7 11:51:10 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: www.FreeBSD.org Web site issue http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31570 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 12: 0: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC4D37B419 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7K02f74784; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCEA37B419 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04363; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:55:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111071955.OAA04363@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:55:08 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31830: USB mouse FAQ outdated Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31830 >Category: docs >Synopsis: USB mouse FAQ outdated >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Nov 07 12:00:02 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: today's doc tree >Description: tells user to recompile kernel for USB mouse, when is supported by default on -current. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Mon Nov 5 10:49:36 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Wed Nov 7 14:52:24 2001 *************** *** 2834,2843 **** ! USB device support was added to FreeBSD 3.1. However, it ! is still in a preliminary state and may not always work as of ! version 3.2. If you want to experiment with the USB mouse ! support, follow the procedure described below. --- 2834,2846 ---- ! ! Preliminary USB device support was added to FreeBSD ! 3.1. It did not always work through early versions of ! 3.X. In FreeBSD 4.X, USB devices ! should work out of the box. If you want to experiment ! with the USB mouse support under FreeBSD 3.X, follow the ! procedure described below. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 13:40:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0465837B419 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7Le6h93137; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:40:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:40:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111072140.fA7Le6h93137@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: setantae Subject: Re: docs/31830: USB mouse FAQ outdated Reply-To: setantae Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31830; it has been noted by GNATS. From: setantae To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31830: USB mouse FAQ outdated Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 21:30:49 +0000 On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:55:08PM -0500, mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org wrote: > > tells user to recompile kernel for USB mouse, when is supported by > default on -current. > In FreeBSD 4.X, USB devices should work out of the box. -current != 4.4-(RELEASE|STABLE) If, however, you actually meant it's supported by -stable then this fix is good (I don't own a usb mouse, so wouldn't know either way). Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 14:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBC437B405 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA7MU1602859; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:30:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111072230.fA7MU1602859@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: docs/31830: USB mouse FAQ outdated Reply-To: Michael Lucas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31830; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Michael Lucas To: setantae , FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/31830: USB mouse FAQ outdated Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:27:30 -0500 Yep, it's supported out-of-the-box as of 4.0-RELEASE. On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 09:30:49PM +0000, setantae wrote: > On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:55:08PM -0500, mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org wrote: > > > > tells user to recompile kernel for USB mouse, when is supported by > > default on -current. > > > In FreeBSD 4.X, USB devices should work out of the box. > > -current != 4.4-(RELEASE|STABLE) > > If, however, you actually meant it's supported by -stable then this fix is > good (I don't own a usb mouse, so wouldn't know either way). > > Ceri > > -- > keep a mild groove on -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 16: 2:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from supernova.dimensional.com (supernova.dimensional.com [206.124.0.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082D237B418; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 16:02:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from asha (0@flatland.dimensional.com [206.124.0.24]) by supernova.dimensional.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id fA802JL25301; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:02:19 -0700 (MST) Reply-To: From: "Dinesh Punjabi" To: , Cc: Subject: Kernel info, FAQ, has gotten very confusing now ... Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:00:27 -0700 Message-ID: <001101c167e8$6030f7a0$0200000a@asha> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings: I am an extremely grateful user of FreeBSD, but I am also extremely confused about the whole FreeBSD kernel configuration topic. My suggestions follow after the email. There is an old and new way of configuring and setting up kernels, plus information relating to kernels appears to be scattered, some in the FreeBSD handbooks, some in /usr/src/UPDATING. Also, there is a possibility that the chapters and examples on sample kernels are out-of-date in the handbook. The config program does not like any pseudo-device options, nor does it like anything after "device xyz" in the config file. I am updating from 4.3 --> 4.4. Would be nice if someone consolidates all this scattered information to make various pieces fit together. I have been using FreeBSD for the past 4+ years and I am thoroughly confused. Nevertheless, thanks sincerely for all your efforts! Dinesh Suggestions: Handbook should reorganize the kernel in the following fashion: 1. What is a kernel ? Boot process, (old, new). What does the system look for 2. What is the directory structure ? (old, new) 3. What are the various components within the kernel 4. Sample kernel 5. How to setup a custom kernel (old, new) 6. Gotchas to avoid (like mixing old, new files, etc.) (Also mention old versions, new versions, etc) 7. ..... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 16:20:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760AA37B405; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 16:20:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id fA80KAU17983; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 16:20:10 -0800 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 16:20:10 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Dinesh Punjabi Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, kargls@home.com Subject: Re: Kernel info, FAQ, has gotten very confusing now ... Message-ID: <20011107162010.A16104@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <001101c167e8$6030f7a0$0200000a@asha> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001101c167e8$6030f7a0$0200000a@asha>; from dinesh@punjabi.org on Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 05:00:27PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 05:00:27PM -0700, Dinesh Punjabi wrote: > Also, there is a possibility that the chapters and examples on > sample kernels are out-of-date in the handbook. The config program > does not like any pseudo-device options, nor does it like anything > after "device xyz" in the config file. I am updating from 4.3 --> 4.4. If that's happening you probably don't have 4.4 sources. The collapsing of pseudo-device into device and the removal of explicit hint specification is a 5-current feature which will not be MFC'd. I suspect this is part of your confusion. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE76c+5XY6L6fI4GtQRAviiAJ4pgxyLp53SqFRikr2aUrqFXKz7YACfRYpm ppVjKTVBzLuPJxpGEQ7Tt6k= =NcRo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 17: 2: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (descartes.noos.net [212.198.2.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7128737B416 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:02:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 38313309 invoked by uid 0); 8 Nov 2001 01:02:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.229.145]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.74 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 8 Nov 2001 01:02:01 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA8120m00726; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 02:02:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200111080102.fA8120m00726@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: Ftp In-Reply-To: <000a01c15029$2ac02040$b0d61318@eureka1.ca.home.com> To: Michael Morgan Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 02:01:59 +0100 (CET) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-Face: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL95a (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Morgan wrote: > Ok what files do I need in the ftp do I need to get > a full running version of freeBSD O/S running on my > computer,if this will help Pentium III ,128megs ram. > Can you help me please? ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RELEASE/floppies/ kern.flp and mfsroot.flp Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 17: 3:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (claudel.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC65737B417 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:03:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14499440 invoked by uid 0); 8 Nov 2001 01:03:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.229.145]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 8 Nov 2001 01:03:30 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA813UL00738; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 02:03:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200111080103.fA813UL00738@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: traffic reduction for freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20011105214638.51854.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> To: Hiten Pandya Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 02:03:30 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-Face: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL95a (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hiten Pandya wrote: > i dont know if i am sending this to the right mailing > list... i tried to signup with freebsd-www but i was > somewhat having problems... ne ways... > > i think it would be better if we change the send-pr > link on the > http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html page > from to > . I'm currently working on a global change of such URLs. please, wait a minute I finish the job... > The reason to do this is that.. because there are lots > of traffic on this page... we can make it point to the > referer... like... if uk.freebsd.org requested > send-pr.html.. then.. it would be better if we offered > the uk.freebsd.org/send-pr.html and not > http://freebsd.org/send-pr.html. In short it would > divert all the traffic to the mirror site. Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 17:20:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0973237B405 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA81K3930717; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:20:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:20:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111080120.fA81K3930717@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Cyrille Lefevre Subject: Re: docs/31821: new FAQ: du/df Reply-To: Cyrille Lefevre Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31821; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Cyrille Lefevre To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31821: new FAQ: du/df Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 02:14:57 +0100 (CET) mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org wrote: [snip] > + When a program has a file open, and you delete the > + file, it isn't really deleted until the program releases > + the file. You can see this easily enough with a program > + such as more. If you delete a file > + while using more on it, > + more doesn't immediately choke and > + complain that it cannot view the file. You cannot access > + the file from anywhere except that more > + window. If the file is large enough, > + df will show that it is gone. The ^^ du > + space the file took up is now designated free. > + du will show that it is still there, as ^^ df > + the space the file uses is still technically in use. Once > + you end the more session, > + du and df will > + agree. > + > + Note that softupdates can delay the freeing of disk > + space; you might need to wait up to 30 seconds for the > + change to be visible! > + > + This situation is common on web servers. Many people > + set up a FreeBSD web server and forget to rotate the log > + files. The access log fills up /var. > + The new administrator deletes the file, but the system > + still complains that the partition is full. Stopping and > + restarting the web server program would free the file, > + allowing the system to release the disk space. To prevent > + this from happening, set up &man.newsyslog.8;. ^ never delete such file, but empty it by copying /dev/null to it (cp /dev/null logfile) or > + > + Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 17:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C5037B416 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA81o2X39952; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111080150.fA81o2X39952@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Wouter Van Hemel Subject: Re: docs/31821: new FAQ: du/df Reply-To: Wouter Van Hemel Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31821; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Wouter Van Hemel To: , Cc: Subject: Re: docs/31821: new FAQ: du/df Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 02:44:24 +0100 (CET) [...] but empty it by copying /dev/null to it (cp /dev/null logfile) [...] Wouldn't it be easier just HUP syslogd? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 17:50:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08C437B418 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA81o2139961; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (camus.noos.net [212.198.2.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02EAC37B405 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 100166149 invoked by uid 0); 8 Nov 2001 01:47:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.229.145]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.70 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 8 Nov 2001 01:47:31 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA81lVR02452; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 02:47:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200111080147.fA81lVR02452@gits.dyndns.org> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 02:47:31 +0100 (CET) From: Cyrille Lefevre Reply-To: Cyrille Lefevre To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/31838: qa mailing list is missing from search Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31838 >Category: docs >Synopsis: qa mailing list is missing from search >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Nov 07 17:50:02 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Cyrille Lefevre >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: ACME >Environment: System: FreeBSD gits 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #9: Sun Oct 21 22:55:26 CEST 2001 root@gits:/disk2/4.x-stable/src/sys/compile/CUSTOM i386 >Description: QA is documented in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/\ books/handbook/eresources.html but cannot be searched in http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html >How-To-Repeat: just go to the later URL >Fix: Index: search.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/search/search.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.71 diff -u -r1.71 search.sgml --- search.sgml 2001/09/05 19:35:02 1.71 +++ search.sgml 2001/11/08 01:44:10 @@ -360,6 +360,12 @@ PPC Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC + + + + QA + Discussion of Quality Assurance, usually pending a release >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 18:20: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A999637B416 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 18:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA82K4Z48006; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 18:20:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 18:20:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111080220.fA82K4Z48006@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Cyrille Lefevre Subject: Re: docs/31838: qa mailing list is missing from search Reply-To: Cyrille Lefevre Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31838; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Cyrille Lefevre To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/31838: qa mailing list is missing from search Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 03:10:01 +0100 (CET) forgot to delete the WWW mailing-list which is closed for some time right now... Index: search.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/search/search.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.71 diff -u -r1.71 search.sgml --- search.sgml 2001/09/05 19:35:02 1.71 +++ search.sgml 2001/11/08 02:06:50 @@ -413,12 +419,6 @@ Install Installation system development - - - - WWW - Web site maintainers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 19: 1:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FB1437B417 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:01:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7150 invoked by uid 100); 8 Nov 2001 03:01:41 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15337.62869.339256.670382@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 21:01:41 -0600 To: docs@freebsd.org Subject: Where should these docs go? X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just answered what has become a FAQ on -questions: "How should I handle /usr/ports distribution?". I'm not sure it's appropriate for the FAQ, as it might go better in the handbook. Any suggestions? Thanx, http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 19:51:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CB537B416 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id fA83pMB53887 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 22:51:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 22:51:16 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: "Formulate a specific query" -> "Search problem reports" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org support.sgml has long offered the ability to formulate a query, but whenever I see that text, I always think "Oh, you mean search". Patch is attached. :-) Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services Index: support.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/support.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.243 diff -u -r1.243 support.sgml --- support.sgml 2001/11/07 17:55:29 1.243 +++ support.sgml 2001/11/08 03:49:09 @@ -221,8 +221,8 @@ report by tracker id.
  • Formulate - a specific query.
    • + href="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?query">Search + problem reports.
  • Submit a Problem Report.
  • View PR Statistics.
    • To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 20:32:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (aragon.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E00737B419 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:32:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 50214261 invoked by uid 0); 8 Nov 2001 04:32:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.229.145]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 8 Nov 2001 04:32:14 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA84WEx09911; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 05:32:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200111080432.fA84WEx09911@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: docs/31821: new FAQ: du/df In-Reply-To: <200111080150.fA81o2X39952@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Wouter Van Hemel Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 05:32:14 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-Face: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL95a (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wouter Van Hemel wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/31821; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Wouter Van Hemel > To: , > > Cc: > Subject: Re: docs/31821: new FAQ: du/df > Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 02:44:24 +0100 (CET) > > [...] but empty it by copying /dev/null to it (cp /dev/null logfile) [...] > > Wouldn't it be easier just HUP syslogd? if the logfile is opened by syslogd :P Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 7 21:42:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail37.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail37.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329D737B405 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 21:42:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from C456086A ([65.0.111.16]) by femail37.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011108054220.KCCM8188.femail37.sdc1.sfba.home.com@C456086A>; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 21:42:20 -0800 Message-ID: <001301c16817$309cbf40$106f0041@bllvu1.wa.home.com> From: "Steve Kargl" To: , References: <001101c167e8$6030f7a0$0200000a@asha> Subject: Re: Kernel info, FAQ, has gotten very confusing now ... Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 21:35:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm not sure why you sent this to me. But, there is a chapter that discusses the kernel in th handbook. Read it. I think you should also read the NOTES file. locate is your friend. steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dinesh Punjabi" To: ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 4:00 PM Subject: Kernel info, FAQ, has gotten very confusing now ... > Greetings: > > I am an extremely grateful user of FreeBSD, but I am also extremely confused > about the whole FreeBSD kernel configuration topic. My suggestions follow > after the email. > > There is an old and new way of configuring and setting up kernels, > plus information relating to kernels appears to be scattered, some > in the FreeBSD handbooks, some in /usr/src/UPDATING. > > Also, there is a possibility that the chapters and examples on > sample kernels are out-of-date in the handbook. The config program > does not like any pseudo-device options, nor does it like anything > after "device xyz" in the config file. I am updating from 4.3 --> 4.4. > > Would be nice if someone consolidates all this scattered information > to make various pieces fit together. I have been using FreeBSD for > the past 4+ years and I am thoroughly confused. > > Nevertheless, thanks sincerely for all your efforts! > > Dinesh > > Suggestions: > > Handbook should reorganize the kernel in the following fashion: > > 1. What is a kernel ? > Boot process, (old, new). What does the system look for > 2. What is the directory structure ? (old, new) > 3. What are the various components within the kernel > 4. Sample kernel > 5. How to setup a custom kernel (old, new) > 6. Gotchas to avoid (like mixing old, new files, etc.) > (Also mention old versions, new versions, etc) > 7. ..... > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 8 1:31: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21105.mail.yahoo.com (web21105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A62937B41C for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 01:31:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011108093100.95398.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.4] by web21105.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Nov 2001 01:31:00 PST Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 01:31:00 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: [SUGGGESTION] - An iNET Guide To: doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello all, i am currently writing a guide for people to make use of FreeBSD as an ecommerce platform. I have done most of the skeleton work, and the bits about OpenSource and everything, but still do you think its worth it... if the book goes well.. i am planning to submit it to the DocProj itself for free and then we can change the licensing to FreeBSD Documentation Project and we can all work on it... give me your comments and decisions... ===== thanks, regards, Hiten Pandya http://www.geocities.com/hitmaster2k __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 8 5:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4776837B41F for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 05:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA8DU1v75869; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 05:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127CC37B420 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 05:27:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA07493; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:27:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111081327.IAA07493@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:27:32 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31853: addition to bibliography Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31853 >Category: docs >Synopsis: addition to bibliography >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Nov 08 05:30:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: thirty minute old -doc tree >Description: add link to online 4.4BSD book sample chapter to Handbook bibliography. >How-To-Repeat: suggested by: Sheldon Hearn >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bibliography/chapter.sgml-dist Thu Nov 8 08:06:08 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bibliography/chapter.sgml Thu Nov 8 08:23:48 2001 *************** *** 296,301 **** --- 296,305 ---- John Quarterman. The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System. Reading, Mass. : Addison-Wesley, 1996. ISBN 0-201-54979-4 + + (Chapter 2 of this book is available on-line as part of + the FreeBSD Documentation Project.) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 8 6:50: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F30137B425 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 06:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA8Eo1g89157; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 06:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4A537B416 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 06:41:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08204; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:41:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111081441.JAA08204@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:41:21 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31854: new error for FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31854 >Category: docs >Synopsis: new error for FAQ >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Nov 08 06:50:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: today's -doc tree >Description: new error for FAQ. Researched in mailing list archives to develop full answer, expanding on Matt Dillon's recent answer on this topic. (Have any docproj members considered just following Matt Dillon around and writing down everything he says? :-) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Thu Nov 8 07:46:11 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Thu Nov 8 09:38:27 2001 *************** *** 4429,4434 **** --- 4429,4453 ----     + + + + What does the error swap_pager: indefinite + wait buffer: mean? + + + + This means that a process is trying to page memory to + disk, and the page attempt has hung trying to access the + disk for more than 20 seconds. It might be caused by bad + blocks on the disk drive, disk wiring, cables, or any + other disk I/O-related hardware. If the drive itself is + actually bad, you will also see disk errors in + /var/log/messages and in the output + of dmesg. Otherwise, check your cables + and connections. + +     >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 8 7:33:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292D637B419 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 07:33:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ark.cris.net (ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA83392; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:33:04 +0200 (EET) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fA8FWUt59996; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:32:30 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:32:30 +0200 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Cyrille Lefevre Cc: Hiten Pandya , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: traffic reduction for freebsd.org Message-ID: <20011108173230.A59694@ark.cris.net> References: <20011105214638.51854.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> <200111080103.fA813UL00738@gits.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200111080103.fA813UL00738@gits.dyndns.org>; from clefevre@citeweb.net on Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 02:03:30AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 02:03:30AM +0100, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > > i think it would be better if we change the send-pr > > link on the > > http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html page > > from to > > . > > I'm currently working on a global change of such URLs. > please, wait a minute I finish the job... Sorry, but yesterday I fixed bunch of such URLs already :( :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 8 9: 0:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687FC37B422 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA8H03L26838; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E23637B417 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09458; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 11:55:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111081655.LAA09458@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 11:55:27 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31857: new FAQ: proc: table is full Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31857 >Category: docs >Synopsis: new FAQ: proc: table is full >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Nov 08 09:00:03 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: this morning's -doc tree >Description: From the "I can't belive this isn't in the FAQ yet!" department. >How-To-Repeat: read -questions. >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Thu Nov 8 07:46:11 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Thu Nov 8 11:51:39 2001 *************** *** 3878,3883 **** --- 3878,3926 ----     + + Why do I get the error /kernel: proc: table + is full? + + + + The FreeBSD kernel will only allow a certain number of + processes to exist at one time. The number is based on + the MAXUSERS option in the kernel + configuration. MAXUSERS also affects + various other in-kernel limits, such as network buffers + (see this + earlier question). If your machine is heavily loaded, you + probably want to increase MAXUSERS. + This will increase these other system limits in addition + to the maximum number of processes. + + After FreeBSD 4.4, MAXUSERS became + a tunable value that could be set with + kern.maxusers in + /boot/loader.conf. In earlier + versions of FreeBSD, you need to adjust + MAXUSERS in your kernel + configuration. + + If your machine is lightly loaded, and you are simply + running a very large number of processes, you can adjust + this with the kern.maxproc sysctl. If + these processes are being run by a single user, you will + also need to adjust kern.maxprocperuid + to be one less than your new + kern.maxproc value. (It must be at + least one less because one system program, &man.init.8;, + must always be running.) + + To make a sysctl permanent across reboots, set this in + /etc/sysctl.conf in recent versions + of FreeBSD, or /etc/rc.local in older + versions. + + + + Why do I get an error reading CMAP busy when rebooting with a new >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 8 9:59: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D041737B418; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:58:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA8Hqaf36991; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:52:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:52:36 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111081752.fA8Hqaf36991@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ah_zeep@yahoo.com, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31502: ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RELEASE/floppies has wrong README.TXT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RELEASE/floppies has wrong README.TXT State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Thu Nov 8 09:50:34 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: floppies/README.TXT should have had the text from INSTALL.TXT instead. This problem has been fixed for 4.4-STABLE; 4.5-RELEASE will have the correct content in this file. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31502 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 8 11:23:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794B937B405 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 11:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10223 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:23:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:23:14 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: finding stuff in documentation Message-ID: <20011108142314.A10189@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="KsGdsel6WgEHnImy" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Folks, At one point, several months ago, I was looking at a problem-solving mechanism for FreeBSD. Unfortunately, my book contract got in the way. I've had time to reconsider this issue, and I think I've narrowed it down considerably. (My original solution would have taken a huge amount of my time and been maintainable only by yours truly, or some other poor loser with no life.) As a user, when I have a problem with something I don't want to ask on a mailing list or call a vendor. I want to look up the error, find out what it means, fix it, and get on with life. Right now, we encourage people to look up their errors in the FAQ, Handbook, articles, and mailing list archives. This is a lot of places to look, but we have no choice. I frequently have to click through several different pages of messages to find what I really want. Attached please find a first stab at addressing this issue: a FreeBSD "error code" index. It's an extra chapter that goes through the FAQ and lists every entry in alphabetical order. It's alpha quality, questionable markup and ancestry, but it compiles so I'm shipping it out for comments. Some errors appear in multiple areas, or are described in different sections of the FAQ. IMHO, these might indicate areas where the FAQ could use some cleanup, rearranging, or merging. A decent index would also help us manage the content of the Handbook and FAQ. Is there any DocProj interest in having this? Shall I drop it now, change, or continue? ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=error-index *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Thu Nov 8 07:46:11 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Thu Nov 8 14:09:27 2001 *************** *** 12342,12347 **** --- 12342,12688 ---- + + + + Michael + Lucas + +
    mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org
    +     +     +     + + Errors Index + + FreeBSD system errors are listed here, in alphabetical + order. This is not an encyclopedic list of errors, merely those + that appear in the FreeBSD FAQ and Handbook. + + Some error messages have device names in front of them. + These errors could affect any number of devices, so look for the + error without the device name. + + + + + archsw.readin.failed + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + bad sector table not + supported + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + brkadrint, Illegal Host Acces at seqaddr + 0x0 + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + calcru: negative time + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + can't change attributes + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + can't find libc.so.X.0 + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + CMAP busy + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + Couldn't open console + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + Device not configured + + + + See this + FAQ if you're using a CDROM. + + + + + + ed1: timeout + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + file: table is full + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + Incorrect super block + + + + See this + FAQ if you're using a CDROM. + + + + + + KDENABIO failed (Operation not + permitted) + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + mail loops back to myself + + + + This is a Sendmail problem. See this FreeBSD FAQ for a + brief explanation. See the Sendmail + FAQ for more information + + + + + + Missing Operating System + + + + See this FAQ. + + + + + + nlist failed + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + No route to host + + + + If you're using &man.ppp.8;, see this FAQ. + + + + + + panic: can't mount root + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + panic: kmem_map too small + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + pcm0 not found + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + Permission denied + + + + If this happens with network operations, see this + FAQ. + + + + + + Read error + + + + See this FAQ + and this FAQ + if it happens at boot. + + + + + + root: not found + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + signal 11 + + + + See this FAQ. + + + + + + socksys + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + stray IRQ + + + + See this FAQ. + + + + + + unknown: <PNP0303> can't assign + resources + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + + + + you are not in the correct group to su + root + + + + See this + FAQ. + + + +     + Acknowledgments --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 8 14:13:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608DA37B405 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:13:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6150BCDF; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12531; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:13:55 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fA8MBch61277; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:11:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: finding stuff in documentation References: <20011108142314.A10189@blackhelicopters.org> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 08 Nov 2001 14:11:37 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20011108142314.A10189@blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Lucas writes: > A decent index would also help us manage the content of the Handbook > and FAQ. I doubt it'd help me, preferring to search for strings or regular expressions within the almost-always-loaded text files in XEmacs buffers. (A all-documentation index in the form of a smart search tool, along the lines of The Meta Project http://cantaforda.com/Meta/, would be a different matter.) > + linkend="archsw-readin-failed-error">this > + FAQ.     I'd rather see "this FAQ" be the link (or even "FAQ") than "this". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 8 14:40:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from proxy.centtech.com (moat.centtech.com [206.196.95.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5FA37B416 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:40:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sprint.centtech.com (sprint.centtech.com [10.177.173.31]) by proxy.centtech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fA8MeM418046 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:40:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from centtech.com (proton [10.177.173.77]) by sprint.centtech.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03001 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:40:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3BEB09B3.917F3DC6@centtech.com> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:39:47 -0600 From: Eric Anderson Reply-To: anderson@centtech.com Organization: Centaur Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: current projects / mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have two questions. 1) Whats needed to be done on the "Search engine enhancements"? Is that already under way, or looking for someone to take hold of the project? (I'm interested) 2) How does one go about getting another mailing list started for FreeBSD? Thanks! -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Anderson anderson@centtech.com Centaur Technology No single raindrop believes it is to blame for the flood. ------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 8 15: 6:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.jel.net (jelexchange.jeloffice.com [63.114.94.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46D737B405 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:06:11 -0800 (PST) content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: BSD article at InfoWorld MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:06:10 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: BSD article at InfoWorld Thread-Index: AcFoqfSoLf1+bAa5Sg2E17XKET8CZA== From: "Chang Hsu" To: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org you probably already know... http://www.infoworld.com/articles/tc/xml/01/11/05/011105tcbsd.xml EXECUTIVE SUMMARY BSD is a mature operating system with a spotless track record for stability and security. The popular FreeBSD lost its financial backing, but -- along with its cousins OpenBSD, NetBSD, and BSD/OS -- it will continue to find favor as a platform for enterprise network services.=20 TEST CENTER PERSPECTIVE BSD should be considered for any job that calls for a robust, stable, and secure network OS. Linux has a larger library of commercial apps, but BSD's wealth of innate capabilities and its huge ports collection make it a solid match for most enterprise assignments.=20 =20 Chang Cheng Hsu Programming Engineer Jel Productions Inc tel: 916.447.5463 ext 133 fax: 916.447.5465 web: www.jelproductions.com=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 8 21:20: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC58737B416 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 21:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA95K0d50157; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 21:20:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from botbay.net (botbay.net [151.197.159.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E8037B41A for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 21:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wcampbel@localhost) by botbay.net (8.11.4/8.11.6) id fA95B7x85513; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 00:11:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wcampbel) Message-Id: <200111090511.fA95B7x85513@botbay.net> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 00:11:08 -0500 (EST) From: "W. Campbell" Reply-To: "W. Campbell" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/31866: Refer to fdopen and fileno in their opposite manpages Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31866 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Refer to fdopen and fileno in their opposite manpages >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Nov 08 21:20:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: W. 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    ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 6: 1:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D00737B41A for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 06:01:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA13313; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:01:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:01:41 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: finding stuff in documentation Message-ID: <20011109090141.A13258@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20011108142314.A10189@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from swear@blarg.net on Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 02:11:37PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My personal favorite tool is "grep -ir" on /usr/doc. But those of us who track the doc tree are a fairly small group of FreeBSD users. You can even look things up by error codes in Microsoft's documentation, AIX's documentation, why not FreeBSD? (Mind you, in those cases you have to take an unintelligible error string, call vendor support, and have them look it up in their proprietary index, but it's the same general idea.) I was a librarian for several years, and the first place you go to research anything is an index. The search engine is great for problems documented in the mailing list archive, but we can do better for the formal project documentation. On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 02:11:37PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Michael Lucas writes: > > > A decent index would also help us manage the content of the Handbook > > and FAQ. > > I doubt it'd help me, preferring to search for strings or regular > expressions within the almost-always-loaded text files in XEmacs > buffers. (A all-documentation index in the form of a smart search tool, > along the lines of The Meta Project http://cantaforda.com/Meta/, would > be a different matter.) > > > + linkend="archsw-readin-failed-error">this > > + FAQ. > > I'd rather see "this FAQ" be the link (or even "FAQ") than "this". -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 6: 3:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from thoth.upan.org (thoth.upan.org [204.107.76.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DD637B418 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 06:03:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ocsinternet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thoth.upan.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fA9D8qr03659; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:08:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Message-ID: <3BEBD563.9032F7EE@ocsinternet.com> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 08:08:52 -0500 From: Mikel King X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Chang Hsu Subject: Re: BSD article at InfoWorld References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just curious, but I thought the FreeBSD trademark had been transfered to The FreeBSD Foundation, or was that another WR lie...? Chang Hsu wrote: > you probably already know... > > http://www.infoworld.com/articles/tc/xml/01/11/05/011105tcbsd.xml > > EXECUTIVE SUMMARY > BSD is a mature operating system with a spotless track record for > stability and security. The popular FreeBSD lost its financial backing, > but -- along with its cousins OpenBSD, NetBSD, and BSD/OS -- it will > continue to find favor as a platform for enterprise network services. > > TEST CENTER PERSPECTIVE > BSD should be considered for any job that calls for a robust, stable, > and secure network OS. Linux has a larger library of commercial apps, > but BSD's wealth of innate capabilities and its huge ports collection > make it a solid match for most enterprise assignments. > > > > Chang Cheng Hsu > Programming Engineer > Jel Productions Inc > > tel: 916.447.5463 ext 133 > fax: 916.447.5465 > web: www.jelproductions.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 7:50:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F5137B421 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 07:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA9Fo1D88152; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 07:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5832037B417 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 07:46:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13881; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:46:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111091546.KAA13881@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:46:00 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31875: correct port count Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31875 >Category: docs >Synopsis: correct port count >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 09 07:50:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: recent -doc tree >Description: The count of ports in the Handbook is wrong. I'm attaching two patches for consideration: one contains an accurate count, one makes the problem go away for good. I prefer the second, but it's an admission that keeping track of the number of ports in the Handbook is basically futile so people might not like that. >How-To-Repeat: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/ , look at the INDEX entry. >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Thu Nov 8 07:46:11 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Fri Nov 9 10:39:32 2001 *************** *** 4805,4811 **** Please take a look at the ports page for info on software packages ported to FreeBSD. ! The list currently tops 3400 and is growing daily, so come back to check often or subscribe to the freebsd-announce mailing list for periodic updates on --- 4805,4811 ---- Please take a look at the ports page for info on software packages ported to FreeBSD. ! The list currently tops 6000 and is growing daily, so come back to check often or subscribe to the freebsd-announce mailing list for periodic updates on *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Thu Nov 8 07:46:11 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Fri Nov 9 10:43:14 2001 *************** *** 4805,4811 **** Please take a look at the ports page for info on software packages ported to FreeBSD. ! The list currently tops 3400 and is growing daily, so come back to check often or subscribe to the freebsd-announce mailing list for periodic updates on --- 4805,4811 ---- Please take a look at the ports page for info on software packages ported to FreeBSD. ! The list currently contains several thousand programs and is growing daily, so come back to check often or subscribe to the freebsd-announce mailing list for periodic updates on >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 8:20:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9DC37B422 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA9GK0j95579; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:20:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F69537B41D for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:17:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14133; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:17:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111091617.LAA14133@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:17:42 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31878: fix grammar and update ld.so entry Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31878 >Category: docs >Synopsis: fix grammar and update ld.so entry >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 09 08:20:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: recent -doc tree >Description: file:///usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/applications.html#FIND-LDSO has bad grammar and outdated information. Here's a correction. >How-To-Repeat: try to run the mentioned "install.sh". Heck, try to *find* the mentioned install.sh. >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Thu Nov 8 07:46:11 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Fri Nov 9 11:14:52 2001 *************** *** 5032,5044 ****     ! If you want to run some a.out applications like ! Netscape Navigator on an Elf'ened machine such as 3.1-R or ! later, it would need /usr/libexec/ld.so ! and some a.out libs. They are included in the compat22 ! distribution. Use /stand/sysinstall or ! install.sh in the compat22 subdirectory ! and install it. Also read ERRATAs for 3.1-R and 3.2-R.     --- 5032,5059 ---- ! a.out applications like Netscape Navigator require ! a.out libraries. A version of FreeBSD built with ELF ! libraries does not install them by default. You will get ! complaints about not having ! /usr/libexec/ld.so if this is the ! case on your system. These libraries are available as an ! add-on in the compat22 distribution. Use ! sysinstall to install them. You can ! also install them from the FreeBSD source code. ! ! &prompt.root; cd /usr/src/lib/compat/compat22 ! &prompt.root; make install clean ! ! If you want to install the latest compat22 libraries ! whenever you run make world, edit ! /etc/make.conf to include ! COMPAT22=YES. Old compatability ! libraries change rarely, if ever, so this is not generally ! needed. ! ! Also see the ERRATAs for 3.1-RELEASE and ! 3.2-RELEASE. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 8:50:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A75E37B425 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA9Go2v99976; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3098537B41F for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14647; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:46:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111091646.LAA14647@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:46:17 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31879: port upgrade FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31879 >Category: docs >Synopsis: port upgrade FAQ >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 09 08:50:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: recent -doc tree >Description: This question doesn't mention new tools to handle upgrading ports. Also, minor simplification of one paragraph. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Thu Nov 8 07:46:11 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Fri Nov 9 11:45:57 2001 *************** *** 5049,5058 **** ! Unfortunately, there is no easy way to update installed ! ports. The &man.pkg.version.1; command can be used ! to generate a script that will update the installed ports with ! a newer version in the ports tree: &prompt.root; pkg_version > /tmp/myscript --- 5049,5062 ---- ! FreeBSD does not include a port upgrading tool, but it ! does have some tools to make the upgrade process somewhat ! easier. You can also install additional tools to simplify ! port handling. ! ! The &man.pkg.version.1; command can generate a script ! that will update installed ports to the latest version in ! the ports tree. &prompt.root; pkg_version > /tmp/myscript *************** *** 5067,5072 **** --- 5071,5086 ---- they need to be updated is that a shared library has changed version numbers, so the ports that used that library need to be rebuilt to use the new version. + + If you have the disk space, you can use the + portupgrade tool to automate all of + this. portupgrade includes various + tools to simplify package handling. It is available under + /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade. + Since it is written in Ruby, + portupgrade is a poor candidate for + integration with the main FreeBSD tree. That shouldn't + stop anyone from using it, however. If your system is up full time, the &man.periodic.8 system can be used to generate a weekly list of ports that might need >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 9:30: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DE137B41B for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA9HU1X08914; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111091730.fA9HU1X08914@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/31875: correct port count Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31875; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31875: correct port count Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 17:21:22 +0000 mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org wrote: > >Description: > > The count of ports in the Handbook is wrong. Handbook or FAQ? > I'm attaching two > patches for consideration: one contains an accurate count, one makes > the problem go away for good. I prefer the second, but it's an > admission that keeping track of the number of ports in the Handbook is > basically futile so people might not like that. Or we can assign the number of ports to an entity, and use that. In fact, we already have such an entity: os.numports (see share/sgml/freebsd.ent). I think we should use that in the FAQ just like we do in the Handbook. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 9:40: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225E737B41F for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA9He2g10257; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111091740.fA9He2g10257@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: docs/31875: correct port count Reply-To: Michael Lucas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31875; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Michael Lucas To: Dima Dorfman Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31875: correct port count Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:37:25 -0500 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 05:21:22PM +0000, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Or we can assign the number of ports to an entity, and use that. In > fact, we already have such an entity: os.numports (see > share/sgml/freebsd.ent). I think we should use that in the FAQ just > like we do in the Handbook. Absolutely. Patch attached for the heck of it. However, os.numports is out of date, we're now over 6,000. ;) -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=portcount3 *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Thu Nov 8 07:46:11 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Fri Nov 9 12:33:57 2001 *************** *** 4805,4811 **** Please take a look at the ports page for info on software packages ported to FreeBSD. ! The list currently tops 3400 and is growing daily, so come back to check often or subscribe to the freebsd-announce mailing list for periodic updates on --- 4805,4811 ---- Please take a look at the ports page for info on software packages ported to FreeBSD. ! The list currently tops &os.numports; and is growing daily, so come back to check often or subscribe to the freebsd-announce mailing list for periodic updates on --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 10:20: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.jel.net (jelexchange.jeloffice.com [63.114.94.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0672237B419 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:19:57 -0800 (PST) content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: BSD article at InfoWorld MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:19:56 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: BSD article at InfoWorld Thread-Index: AcFpJ0vGrGlbBmNtTeGtnmftgAaL5QAIylfg From: "Chang Hsu" To: "Mikel King" , Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! i submitted this article to docs@freebsd.org following the instructions on http://www.freebsd.org/news/press.html page, so that someone can add it to the November 2001 list. about WR, i thought the whole thing was kinda sad. all i know is that they have been talking about transferring the TM, but people working with WR would know better. thanks! -chang -----Original Message----- From: Mikel King [mailto:mikel@ocsinternet.com] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:09 AM To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Chang Hsu Subject: Re: BSD article at InfoWorld Just curious, but I thought the FreeBSD trademark had been transfered to The FreeBSD Foundation, or was that another WR lie...? Chang Hsu wrote: > you probably already know... > > http://www.infoworld.com/articles/tc/xml/01/11/05/011105tcbsd.xml > > EXECUTIVE SUMMARY > BSD is a mature operating system with a spotless track record for > stability and security. The popular FreeBSD lost its financial backing, > but -- along with its cousins OpenBSD, NetBSD, and BSD/OS -- it will > continue to find favor as a platform for enterprise network services. > > TEST CENTER PERSPECTIVE > BSD should be considered for any job that calls for a robust, stable, > and secure network OS. Linux has a larger library of commercial apps, > but BSD's wealth of innate capabilities and its huge ports collection > make it a solid match for most enterprise assignments. > > > > Chang Cheng Hsu > Programming Engineer > Jel Productions Inc > > tel: 916.447.5463 ext 133 > fax: 916.447.5465 > web: www.jelproductions.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 10:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D68637B433 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA9IU1818842; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E5337B41A for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15286; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:24:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111091824.NAA15286@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:24:32 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31880: correct SMB FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31880 >Category: docs >Synopsis: correct SMB FAQ >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 09 10:30:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: recent -doc tree >Description: This was the last XXX in the FAQ. Let's get rid of it. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Thu Nov 8 07:46:11 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Fri Nov 9 13:21:37 2001 *************** *** 9094,9103 **** ! Use the sharity light ! package in the ports collection. ! ! --- 9094,9104 ---- ! Use the SMBFS toolset. It ! includes a set of kernel modifications and a set of ! userland programs. The programs and information are ! available in ! /usr/ports/net/smbfs. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 10:56:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from thoth.upan.org (thoth.upan.org [204.107.76.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A26037B41A for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:56:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ocsinternet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thoth.upan.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fA9I20600567; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:02:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Message-ID: <3BEC1A18.24AAF182@ocsinternet.com> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 13:02:00 -0500 From: Mikel King X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chang Hsu Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD article at InfoWorld References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings Chang, I seem to remember that the foundation's charter and possibly some subsequent correspondence indicated that the trade mark was going to be transfered to them for protection. On top of which I was under the impression that neither WR nor BSDI actually owned the trademark, but that an employee working on the project for BSDI, then WR indeed did. I know that this is rather off topic, but I'd wager that some one else out there would know for sure... cheers, m ps: http://people.freebsd.org/~jdp/foundation/announcement.html Chang Hsu wrote: > Hi! > > i submitted this article to docs@freebsd.org following the instructions > on http://www.freebsd.org/news/press.html page, so that someone can add > it to the November 2001 list. > > about WR, i thought the whole thing was kinda sad. all i know is that > they have been talking about transferring the TM, but people working > with WR would know better. > > thanks! > > -chang > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mikel King [mailto:mikel@ocsinternet.com] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:09 AM > To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG > Cc: Chang Hsu > Subject: Re: BSD article at InfoWorld > > Just curious, but I thought the FreeBSD trademark had been transfered to > The FreeBSD Foundation, or was that another WR lie...? > > Chang Hsu wrote: > > > you probably already know... > > > > http://www.infoworld.com/articles/tc/xml/01/11/05/011105tcbsd.xml > > > > EXECUTIVE SUMMARY > > BSD is a mature operating system with a spotless track record for > > stability and security. The popular FreeBSD lost its financial > backing, > > but -- along with its cousins OpenBSD, NetBSD, and BSD/OS -- it will > > continue to find favor as a platform for enterprise network services. > > > > TEST CENTER PERSPECTIVE > > BSD should be considered for any job that calls for a robust, stable, > > and secure network OS. Linux has a larger library of commercial apps, > > but BSD's wealth of innate capabilities and its huge ports collection > > make it a solid match for most enterprise assignments. > > > > > > > > Chang Cheng Hsu > > Programming Engineer > > Jel Productions Inc > > > > tel: 916.447.5463 ext 133 > > fax: 916.447.5465 > > web: www.jelproductions.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 11: 0:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293B837B41A for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA9J01d22527; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B982037B416 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15723; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:59:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111091859.NAA15723@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:59:21 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31881: improve question name Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31881 >Category: docs >Synopsis: improve question name >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 09 11:00:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: today's -doc tree >Description: This question name might make people think that login names are restricted in later versions of FreeBSD. Clarify it a little. To say that "login names are still restricted to 8 characters" is a bit off these days. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Thu Nov 8 07:46:11 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Fri Nov 9 13:57:19 2001 *************** *** 11221,11228 **** ! Why are login names still ! restricted to 8 characters? --- 11221,11228 ---- ! Why are login names restricted to 8 characters or less ! in FreeBSD 2.2.X and earlier? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 11:10: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EFB37B417 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA9JA1v26753; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C696237B405 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:03:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA15841; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:03:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111091903.OAA15841@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:03:40 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31882: a handbook entry is not a tool Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31882 >Category: docs >Synopsis: a handbook entry is not a tool >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 09 11:10:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: today's -doc tree >Description: The "handbook entry on CVSup" is not the currently recommended method for keeping sources up to date. It describes the currently recommended method. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml-dist Thu Nov 8 07:46:11 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Fri Nov 9 14:01:24 2001 *************** *** 11333,11339 **** SUP is not bandwidth friendly, and has been retired. The current recommended method to keep your sources up to date is ! Handbook entry on CVSup --- 11333,11339 ---- SUP is not bandwidth friendly, and has been retired. The current recommended method to keep your sources up to date is ! CVSup >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 11:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD74537B41A for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA9JU1130727; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D981937B417 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16131; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:29:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111091929.OAA16131@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:29:21 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31883: warning in Handbook about umount -f Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31883 >Category: docs >Synopsis: warning in Handbook about umount -f >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 09 11:30:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: current -doc tree >Description: The Handbook mentions use of umount -f, but does not mention that there is any risk involved with this. This section of the Handbook also has several areas where hard tabs are used instead of spaces. Does this warrant a separate PR? >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml-dist Fri Nov 9 14:21:12 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml Fri Nov 9 14:27:36 2001 *************** *** 694,700 **** option. All forms take to force unmounting, ! and for verbosity. and are used to unmount all mounted filesystems, possibly modified by the --- 694,703 ---- option. All forms take to force unmounting, ! and for verbosity. Be warned that ! is not generally a good idea. Forcibly ! unmounting filesystems can crash the computer or damage data ! on the filesystem. and are used to unmount all mounted filesystems, possibly modified by the >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 11:50: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA69037B417 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA9Jo0N34093; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:50:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234B437B416 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16375; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:45:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111091945.OAA16375@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:45:36 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31884: update shells description Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31884 >Category: docs >Synopsis: update shells description >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 09 11:50:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: recent -doc tree >Description: We now ship tcsh, not csh. Replace csh with tcsh, and replace port tcsh with port zsh (as an example). >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml-dist Fri Nov 9 14:21:12 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml Fri Nov 9 14:42:21 2001 *************** *** 1004,1013 **** built in functions to help everyday tasks such a file management, file globing, command line editing, command macros, and environment variables. FreeBSD comes with a set of shells, such as ! sh, the Bourne Shell, and csh, ! the C-shell. Many other shells are available from the FreeBSD Ports Collection that have much more power, such as ! tcsh and bash. Which shell do you use? It is really a matter of taste. If you are a C programmer you might feel more comfortable with a C-like shell --- 1004,1013 ---- built in functions to help everyday tasks such a file management, file globing, command line editing, command macros, and environment variables. FreeBSD comes with a set of shells, such as ! sh, the Bourne Shell, and tcsh, ! the improved C-shell. Many other shells are available from the FreeBSD Ports Collection that have much more power, such as ! zsh and bash. Which shell do you use? It is really a matter of taste. If you are a C programmer you might feel more comfortable with a C-like shell >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 12: 0:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF6837B41E for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA9K01T35031; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9330A37B417 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:50:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16538; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:50:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111091950.OAA16538@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:50:38 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/31886: missing markup Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31886 >Category: docs >Synopsis: missing markup >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 09 12:00:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: current -doc tree >Description: I believe that the man command needs to be marked up? >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml-dist Fri Nov 9 14:21:12 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml Fri Nov 9 14:48:57 2001 *************** *** 1321,1328 **** The most comprehensive documentation on FreeBSD is in the form of manual pages. Nearly every program on the system comes with a short reference manual explaining the basic operation and various ! arguments. These manuals can be viewed with the man command. Use ! of the man command is simple: &prompt.user; man command --- 1321,1328 ---- The most comprehensive documentation on FreeBSD is in the form of manual pages. Nearly every program on the system comes with a short reference manual explaining the basic operation and various ! arguments. These manuals can be viewed with the man command. Use ! of the man command is simple: &prompt.user; man command >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 12:27:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gc-relayi.looksmart.com (gc-relay.looksmart.com [207.138.42.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248EA37B421 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:27:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from looksmar2qq7r2 (wallaroo.looksmart.com [207.138.42.10]) by gc-relayi.looksmart.com (8.11.6/BCH1.7.5) with SMTP id fA9KRmU02175 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:27:48 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Jonathan Masson" To: Subject: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:27:46 -0800 Message-ID: <000c01c1695c$ff44c810$2f7a11ac@looksmar2qq7r2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth 1bd5e623 subscribe freebsd-questions jonathan@looksmart.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 12:53:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from thorin.hway.ru (thorin.hway.ru [212.45.17.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116E437B416 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:53:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from maximum@localhost) by thorin.hway.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fA9KpDb63312; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 23:51:13 +0300 (MSK) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 23:51:13 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <200111092051.fA9KpDb63312@thorin.hway.ru> From: Îòäåë.ïðîäàæ@hway.ru Subject: òåëåôîíû îò 5$ Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 X-Mail-Gateway: Forms-Email Gateway To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ïðîèçâîäñòâî è ïðîäàæà òåëåôîííûõ àïïàðàòîâ. 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Ðàçëè÷íûå ôîðìû îïëàòû è ãèáêàÿ ñèñòåìà ñêèäîê Òåë: (095) 424-7900 http://www.laudlink.ru/win/newta/catalog/tulpan/index.html mailto:lida@laudlink.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 17: 0: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F69937B420 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAA102n85038; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:00:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111100100.fAA102n85038@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Cyrille Lefevre Subject: Re: docs/31883: warning in Handbook about umount -f Reply-To: Cyrille Lefevre Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31883; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Cyrille Lefevre To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31883: warning in Handbook about umount -f Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 01:53:50 +0100 (CET) mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org wrote: > > ! unmounting filesystems can crash the computer or damage data ^^^ may > ! on the filesystem. Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 17:39: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D045E37B417; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:39:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAA1XRs95980; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:33:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:33:27 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111100133.fAA1XRs95980@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31882: a handbook entry is not a tool Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: a handbook entry is not a tool State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Fri Nov 9 17:33:12 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31882 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 17:40:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A9BE37B41E for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2138 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2001 01:40:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (63.48.180.230) by smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 10 Nov 2001 01:40:17 -0000 X-Sender: wbates@stargate.net From: William Bates To: "Mortgage Borrower" Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 17:43:54 -0800 Subject: Need a Home Loan? 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<200111100149.fAA1nDx97128@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31875: correct port count Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: correct port count State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Fri Nov 9 17:49:01 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31875 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 18:19: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB4C37B417; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 18:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAA2Ama02475; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 18:10:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 18:10:48 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111100210.fAA2Ama02475@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31879: port upgrade FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: port upgrade FAQ State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Fri Nov 9 18:10:23 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, with minor modifications...thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31879 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 20: 8:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7977F37B41C for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DFEBD4B for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10280 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:08:23 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAA45xH62037; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:05:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/31883: warning in Handbook about umount -f References: <200111100100.fAA102n85038@freefall.freebsd.org> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 09 Nov 2001 20:05:58 -0800 In-Reply-To: <200111100100.fAA102n85038@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Cyrille Lefevre writes: > The following reply was made to PR docs/31883; it has been noted by GNATS. > > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org wrote: > > > > ! unmounting filesystems can crash the computer or damage data > ^^^ may ^^^ might Actually, all three are good enough for our purposes. All three are commonly used to describe a probability or likelyhood of something happening or just an ability for something to happen. Some people would reserve "might" for the past tense of "may". Others insist that "may" be used only for "permission" and "can" only for "ability". (I usually prefer "might" in situations like this and think "may" is the worst choice.) How about this? ! and for verbosity. ! Careless use of often results in ! OS crashes and damaged filesystems. An explanation including typical bad uses would be nice, but I don't feel qualified to suggest one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 9 20:14:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FD137B41C; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:14:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654C0BD4E; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:14:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11280; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:14:45 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAA4CKi62040; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:12:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: What is FreeBSD, Inc? From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 09 Nov 2001 20:12:20 -0800 Message-ID: Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Much of the FreeBSD web site claims to be the property of "The FreeBSD Project". "The FreeBSD Copyright" at http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html claims that "FreeBSD, Inc." owns copyright on something, presumably more than that page, though it's not clear what. "The FreeBSD Handbook" claims that "The FreeBSD Documentation Project" owns copyright on the handbook. The home page of freebsd.org mentions "The FreeBSD Foundation" as a place to send money, but little more. What or who are these four entities? Do they have legal standing to own copyrights? Who or what holds what legal paperwork? I've looked for but not found answers at the freebsd.org web site and in the Handbook. The latter hints that the "core team" controls the project's direction, but curiously quotes "Board of Directors" as if it isn't a real, legal board and says nothing of incorporation, ownership, assets, charter/constitution, etc. It also seems strange that the web site doesn't mention trademarks. Shouldn't this sort of stuff be in a "Who are we?" or "Who owns FreeBSD?" or "Legal Matters" type of web page? Or does none of this sort of thing influence (potential) contributors or otherwise matter to anyone but nitpickers? 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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 10 1:53:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C785637B42A; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 01:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAA9rBT03589; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 01:53:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Gary W. Swearingen" , , Subject: RE: What is FreeBSD, Inc? Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 01:53:11 -0800 Message-ID: <007101c169cd$81d33800$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Unfortunately, the people that are in charge of that apparently have better things to do. According to USPTO, the FreeBSD trademark still belongs to Walnut Creek, aka WRS. Certain individuals insisted some time ago that this was going to be changed but apparently they haven't filed the proper paperwork. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Gary W. >Swearingen >Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:12 PM >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: What is FreeBSD, Inc? > > > >Much of the FreeBSD web site claims to be the property of "The FreeBSD >Project". > >"The FreeBSD Copyright" at >http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html >claims that "FreeBSD, Inc." owns copyright on something, >presumably more than that page, though it's not clear what. > >"The FreeBSD Handbook" claims that "The FreeBSD Documentation Project" >owns copyright on the handbook. > >The home page of freebsd.org mentions "The FreeBSD Foundation" as a >place to send money, but little more. > > >What or who are these four entities? Do they have legal standing to >own copyrights? Who or what holds what legal paperwork? > >I've looked for but not found answers at the freebsd.org web site >and in the Handbook. The latter hints that the "core team" controls the >project's direction, but curiously quotes "Board of Directors" as if it >isn't a real, legal board and says nothing of incorporation, ownership, >assets, charter/constitution, etc. > >It also seems strange that the web site doesn't mention trademarks. > >Shouldn't this sort of stuff be in a "Who are we?" or "Who owns >FreeBSD?" or "Legal Matters" type of web page? Or does none of this >sort of thing influence (potential) contributors or otherwise matter >to anyone but nitpickers? > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 10 6:20:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BACF37B427 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 06:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAAEK2m30183; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 06:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from Kain.sumuk.de (Kain.sumuk.de [213.221.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE45A37B41D for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 06:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Kain.sumuk.de (8.11.5/8.11.5) id fAAEJh187501; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:19:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vincent) Message-Id: <200111101419.fAAEJh187501@Kain.sumuk.de> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:19:43 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Heinen Reply-To: Martin Heinen To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/31899: Markup changes for chapter Security Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 31899 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Markup changes for chapter Security >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Nov 10 06:20:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martin Heinen >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD Kain.sumuk.de 4.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE #11: Thu Sep 27 18:54:33 CEST 2001 toor@Kain.earth.sol:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KAIN i386 >Description: changed literal " to , indented a paragraph, -> , info -> information, grunt -> grunt, added missing markup, localhost -> localhost >How-To-Repeat: read the Security chapter >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.96 diff -u -r1.96 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2001/10/29 11:02:50 1.96 +++ chapter.sgml 2001/11/10 13:59:24 @@ -1014,14 +1014,14 @@ rather than libdescrypt. If you have installed the DES-capable crypt library - libdescrypt (e.g. by installing the - "crypto" distribution), then which password format will be used - for new passwords is controlled by the - passwd_format login capability in - /etc/login.conf, which takes values of - either des or md5. See the - &man.login.conf.5; manual page for more information about login - capabilities. + libdescrypt (e.g. by installing the + crypto distribution), then which password format + will be used for new passwords is controlled by the + passwd_format login capability in + /etc/login.conf, which takes values of + either des or md5. See the + &man.login.conf.5; manual page for more information about login + capabilities. @@ -1249,7 +1249,7 @@ s/key 97 fw13894 Password:     - Or for OPIE: + Or for OPIE: &prompt.user; telnet example.com Trying 10.0.0.1... @@ -1345,7 +1345,7 @@ on the host name, user name, terminal port, or IP address of a login session. These restrictions can be found in the configuration file /etc/skey.access. The - &man.skey.access.5; manual page has more info on the complete + &man.skey.access.5; manual page has more information on the complete format of the file and also details some security cautions to be aware of before depending on this file for security. @@ -1460,8 +1460,8 @@ You should now edit the krb.conf and krb.realms files to define your Kerberos realm. In this case the realm will be EXAMPLE.COM and the - server is grunt.example.com. We edit or create - the krb.conf file: + server is grunt.example.com. We edit + or create the krb.conf file: &prompt.root; cat krb.conf EXAMPLE.COM @@ -2655,8 +2655,9 @@ elsewhere, and is not available for unrestricted use. IDEA is included in the OpenSSL sources in FreeBSD, but it is not built by default. If you wish to use it, and you comply with the - license terms, enable the MAKE_IDEA switch in /etc/make.conf and - rebuild your sources using 'make world'. + license terms, enable the MAKE_IDEA switch in + /etc/make.conf and + rebuild your sources using make world. Today, the RSA algorithm is free for use in USA and other countries. In the past it was protected by a patent. @@ -2741,14 +2742,18 @@ From HOST B to HOST A, new AH and new ESP are combined. Now we should choose an algorithm to be used corresponding to - "AH"/"new AH"/"ESP"/"new ESP". Please refer to the &man.setkey.8; man + AH/new AH/ESP/ + new ESP. + Please refer to the &man.setkey.8; man page to know algorithm names. Our choice is MD5 for AH, new-HMAC-SHA1 for new AH, and new-DES-expIV with 8 byte IV for new ESP. Key length highly depends on each algorithm. For example, key length must be equal to 16 bytes for MD5, 20 for new-HMAC-SHA1, - and 8 for new-DES-expIV. Now we choose "MYSECRETMYSECRET", - "KAMEKAMEKAMEKAMEKAME", "PASSWORD", respectively. + and 8 for new-DES-expIV. Now we choose + MYSECRETMYSECRET, + KAMEKAMEKAMEKAMEKAME, PASSWORD, + respectively. OK, let us assign SPI (Security Parameter Index) for each protocol. Please note that we need 3 SPIs for this secure channel since three @@ -2842,9 +2847,10 @@ fec0::10 -------------------- fec0::11 - Encryption algorithm is blowfish-cbc whose key is "kamekame", and - authentication algorithm is hmac-sha1 whose key is "this is the test - key". Configuration at Host-A: + Encryption algorithm is blowfish-cbc whose key is + kamekame, and authentication algorithm is hmac-sha1 + whose key is this is the test key. + Configuration at Host-A: &prompt.root; setkey -c <<EOF @@ -2888,8 +2894,8 @@ Tunnel mode between two security gateways Security protocol is old AH tunnel mode, i.e. specified by - RFC1826, with keyed-md5 whose key is "this is the test" as - authentication algorithm. + RFC1826, with keyed-md5 whose key is + this is the test as authentication algorithm. ======= AH ======= @@ -2914,8 +2920,10 @@ EOF - If the port number field is omitted such as above then "[any]" is - employed. `-m' specifies the mode of SA to be used. "-m any" means + If the port number field is omitted such as above then + [any] is + employed. -m specifies the mode of SA to be used. + -m any means wild-card of mode of security protocol. You can use this SA for both tunnel and transport mode. @@ -3102,10 +3110,10 @@ user@example.com's password: ******* The login will continue just as it would have if a session was - created using rlogin or telnet. SSH utilizes a - key fingerprint - system for verifying the authenticity of the server when the - client connects. The user is prompted to enter 'yes' only when + created using rlogin or telnet. + SSH utilizes a key fingerprint system for verifying the authenticity + of the server when the client connects. The user is prompted + to enter yes only when connecting for the first time. Future attempts to login are all verified against the saved fingerprint key. The SSH client will alert you if the saved fingerprint differs from the @@ -3132,9 +3140,9 @@ scp - The scp command works similarly to rcp; - it copies a file to or from a remote machine, except in a - secure fashion. + The scp command works similarly to + rcp; it copies a file to or from a + remote machine, except in a secure fashion. &prompt.root scp user@example.com:/COPYRIGHT COPYRIGHT user@example.com's password: @@ -3293,15 +3301,16 @@ - An SSH tunnel works by creating a listen socket on localhost + An SSH tunnel works by creating a listen socket on + localhost on the specified port. It then forwards any connection received on the local host/port via the SSH connection to the specified remote host and port. In the example, port 5023 on - localhost is being forwarded to port - 23 on localhost of the remote - machine. Since 23 is telnet, this + localhost is being forwarded to port + 23 on localhost of the + remote machine. Since 23 is telnet, this would create a secure telnet session through an SSH tunnel. This can be used to wrap any number of insecure TCP protocols >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 10 9:19: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535D037B41E; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:19:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAAH9E020463; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:09:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:09:14 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111101709.fAAH9E020463@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31880: correct SMB FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: correct SMB FAQ State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Sat Nov 10 09:08:56 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed with a minor markup modification...thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31880 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 10 9:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A8537B41E for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAAHU1122614; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111101730.fAAHU1122614@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tom Hukins Subject: Re: docs/31899: Markup changes for chapter Security Reply-To: Tom Hukins Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31899; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Hukins To: Martin Heinen Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31899: Markup changes for chapter Security Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 17:27:14 +0000 On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 03:19:43PM +0100, Martin Heinen wrote: > If you have installed the DES-capable crypt library > - libdescrypt (e.g. by installing the > - "crypto" distribution), then which password format will be used > - for new passwords is controlled by the > - passwd_format login capability in > - /etc/login.conf, which takes values of > - either des or md5. See the > - &man.login.conf.5; manual page for more information about login > - capabilities. Rather than fixing this by modifying the quotes, shouldn't this be totally updated? We don't have a "crypto" distribution any more, so we should specify what happens by default and explain how to change it. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 10 9:49: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A1D37B41A; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAAHiRg24284; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:44:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:44:27 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111101744.fAAHiRg24284@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31881: improve question name Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: improve question name State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Sat Nov 10 09:44:01 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31881 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 10 9:49: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98E137B41B; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAAHfR623825; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:41:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:41:27 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111101741.fAAHfR623825@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31878: fix grammar and update ld.so entry Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: fix grammar and update ld.so entry State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Sat Nov 10 09:41:12 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, with one markup change, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31878 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 10 11:44:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B460937B417 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8406 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2001 19:43:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (63.48.180.15) by smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 10 Nov 2001 19:43:59 -0000 X-Sender: wbates@stargate.net From: William Bates To: "Mortgage Borrower" Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:48:03 -0800 Subject: Need a Home Loan? 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11:59:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAAJvFt42370; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:57:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:57:15 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111101957.fAAJvFt42370@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31884: update shells description Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: update shells description State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Sat Nov 10 11:57:04 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed...thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31884 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 10 13:30:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A7237B419 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:30:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAALUHo56398; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:30:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:30:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111102130.fAALUHo56398@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/31899: Markup changes for chapter Security Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31899; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Martin Heinen Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/31899: Markup changes for chapter Security Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 17:48:40 +0200 Martin Heinen wrote: > > >Description: > changed literal " to , indented a paragraph, > -> , > info -> information, > grunt -> grunt, > added missing markup, > localhost -> localhost Please do not mix whitespace and content changes :( It is difficult to see the content changes when they are made at the same time with indentation or other whitespace fixes. 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