From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 3:54:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from D00015.dialonly.kemerovo.su (www2.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AA437B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:54:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from eugen@localhost) by D00015.dialonly.kemerovo.su (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fAIBCDM02570 for docs@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:12:13 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:12:13 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein To: docs@freebsd.org Subject: 'man ishexnumber' does not work (incorrect ctype(3) page source?) Message-ID: <20011118181213.A2489@grosbein.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org $ man -k ishexnumber isalnum(3), isalpha(3), isascii(3), isblank(3), iscntrl(3), isdigit(3), isgraph( 3), ishexnumber(3), isideogram(3), islower(3), isnumber(3), isphonogram(3), ispr int(3), ispunct(3), isrune(3), isspace(3), isspecial(3), isupper(3), isxdigit(3) , toascii(3), tolower(3), toupper(3) - character classification macros $ man ishexnumber No manual entry for ishexnumber Eugene Grosbein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 6:57:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD31B37B405; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0312.cvx11-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.178.189.57] helo=netcom1.netcom.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165TNv-0005kZ-00; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:57:33 -0500 Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CA9F61353B; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:55:45 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Harding To: clefevre@citeweb.net Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <200111180319.fAI3Jqm37189@gits.dyndns.org> (message from Cyrille Lefevre on Sun, 18 Nov 2001 04:19:50 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: empty index.html in /usr/www? References: <200111180319.fAI3Jqm37189@gits.dyndns.org> Message-Id: <20011118145545.CA9F61353B@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:55:45 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK, first experiment - I log in as root, so all SGML* variables are unset. Same result. I also commented the 'tidy' run out of the makefile, same result. I think that there is something wrong with recent libxml2/libxslt ports maybe? KDE doesn't build right now either. Are you running with current ports? Mine are current as of today... I will try setting the SGML* environment later today as you indicate below and see what happens. - Mike H. Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 04:19:50 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-SpamBouncer: 1.4 (8/24/01) X-SBNote: From Admin X-SBNote: FROM_DAEMON/Listserv X-SBClass: Admin Mike Harding wrote: > > I have been building the freebsd web site locally for a while - right > now the main index.html is empty. The makefile is outputting the > file, but the result is empty... 0 bytes. > > ... > /usr/local/bin/xsltproc -nonet -o index.html /usr/www/en/index.xsl /usr/www/en/news/news.xml > ... I can't reproduce the problem using the setting you give us. could you send us your plain environment obtained from the `env' command ? did you tried the command manually ? just to see if it isn't a tidy problem ? can you try it w/o SGML_CATALOG_FILES defined (unset SGML_CATALOG_FILES) ? > I have > > SGML_ROOT=/usr/local/share/sgml > SGML_CATALOG_FILES=${SGML_ROOT}/jade/catalog > SGML_CATALOG_FILES=${SGML_ROOT}/iso8879/catalog:$SGML_CATALOG_FILES > SGML_CATALOG_FILES=${SGML_ROOT}/html/catalog:$SGML_CATALOG_FILES > SGML_CATALOG_FILES=${SGML_ROOT}/docbook/catalog:$SGML_CATALOG_FILES > SGML_CATALOG_FILES=/usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog:$SGML_CATALOG_FILES > export SGML_CATALOG_FILES the order defined in /usr/doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk is different than yours, could you try the following setting : SGML_CATALOG_FILES=${SGML_ROOT}/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog SGML_CATALOG_FILES=$SGML_CATALOG_FILES:${SGML_ROOT}/iso8879/catalog SGML_CATALOG_FILES=$SGML_CATALOG_FILES:${SGML_ROOT}/docbook/catalog SGML_CATALOG_FILES=$SGML_CATALOG_FILES:${SGML_ROOT}/html/catalog SGML_CATALOG_FILES=$SGML_CATALOG_FILES:${SGML_ROOT}/jade/catalog # first try w/o the following ones, then w/. DOC_ROOT=/usr/doc SGML_CATALOG_FILES=${DOC_ROOT}/share/sgml/catalog:$SGML_CATALOG_FILES SGML_CATALOG_FILES=${DOC_ROOT}/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog:$SGML_CATALOG_FILES > in my .profile and am using a completely up-to-date docproj port - is > there something else I am missing? All of the SGML stuff seems to > build fine. PS : the paths order in SGML_CATALOG_FILES is really important and iso8879 *MUST* be before docbook (docbook/4.1). this has been fixed in rev 1.55 of doc.docbook.mk. well, I've just reread the fdp-primer, and it seems that sections 3.2.1 and 3.3.1.2 are wrong about that. could someone w/ more knowledge than mine confirm of infirm what I'm saying and send a PR, if needed, to fix the documentation ? thanks. Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 6:58:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow028o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4326037B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcow028m.blueyonder.net ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:58:55 +0000 Received: from fluoxetine.lan (unverified) by pcow028m.blueyonder.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:58:54 +0000 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:00:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew McKay X-Sender: andy@fluoxetine.lan To: Mike Harding Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: empty index.html in /usr/www? In-Reply-To: <20011117175333.06E211330F@netcom1.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Mike Harding wrote: MH> I have been building the freebsd web site locally for a while - right MH> now the main index.html is empty. The makefile is outputting the MH> file, but the result is empty... 0 bytes. I'm getting the same here too. I tried the .profile fixing that Cyrille suggested but, aiui, that would have nothing to do with the building of index.html anyway. I'm using a local repo, synced 6 hourly, and this was on a totally clean build from sources freshly checked out yesterday morning. Everything else seems to have built fine but for the null index.html (actually I get it to be 1 byte: # ls -l index.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root cvsupin 1 Nov 18 14:38 index.html ). Not quite sure what the problem is but it doesn't appear to be tidy related. If I take the tidy line out of the Makefile the file ends up being 0 bytes (as opposed to 1 byte if tidy is involved). I don't yet know enough about this xsl stuff to work out where the problem is but I have a feeling it's not just a local thing. -- Andrew McKay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 7: 2: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C5D37B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0312.cvx11-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.178.189.57] helo=netcom1.netcom.com) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165TSN-00024D-00; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:02:03 -0500 Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A01C91353B; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:01:56 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Harding To: andy@openirc.co.uk Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Andrew McKay on Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:00:51 +0000 (GMT)) Subject: Re: empty index.html in /usr/www? References: Message-Id: <20011118150156.A01C91353B@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:01:56 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just to chime in - your experience with the file size with, without tidy is the same as mine... - Mike H. Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:00:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew McKay X-Sender: andy@fluoxetine.lan Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-SpamBouncer: 1.4 (8/24/01) X-SBClass: OK On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Mike Harding wrote: MH> I have been building the freebsd web site locally for a while - right MH> now the main index.html is empty. The makefile is outputting the MH> file, but the result is empty... 0 bytes. I'm getting the same here too. I tried the .profile fixing that Cyrille suggested but, aiui, that would have nothing to do with the building of index.html anyway. I'm using a local repo, synced 6 hourly, and this was on a totally clean build from sources freshly checked out yesterday morning. Everything else seems to have built fine but for the null index.html (actually I get it to be 1 byte: # ls -l index.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root cvsupin 1 Nov 18 14:38 index.html ). Not quite sure what the problem is but it doesn't appear to be tidy related. If I take the tidy line out of the Makefile the file ends up being 0 bytes (as opposed to 1 byte if tidy is involved). I don't yet know enough about this xsl stuff to work out where the problem is but I have a feeling it's not just a local thing. -- Andrew McKay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 7:33:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from btamail.net.cn (host1.btamail.net.cn [202.106.196.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DD8F37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:33:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc-1([202.108.68.140]) by btamail.net.cn(JetMail 2.5.3.0) with SMTP id jm8f3bf844da; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:33:24 -0000 x-esmtp: 0 0 1 Message-ID: <1156784-220011101815340198@btamail.net.cn> X-EM-Version: 6, 0, 1, 0 X-EM-Registration: #00F06206106618006920 X-Priority: 3 From: "异通数字卡网" To: "doc@FreeBSD.org" Subject: 台湾侨欣物质贸易（集团）有限公司-电脑/手机进口批发贸易 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:34:00 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 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; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:35:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc-1([202.108.68.140]) by btamail.net.cn(JetMail 2.5.3.0) with SMTP id jm583bf844d6; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:33:20 -0000 x-esmtp: 0 0 1 Message-ID: <1032382-2200111018153359817@btamail.net.cn> X-EM-Version: 6, 0, 1, 0 X-EM-Registration: #00F06206106618006920 X-Priority: 3 From: "异通数字卡网" To: "freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org" Subject: 台湾侨欣物质贸易（集团）有限公司-电脑/手机进口批发贸易 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:33:59 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-SMTPExp-Version: 1, 0, 2, 13 X-SMTPExp-Registration: 00B0320C107602006905 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org =CC=A8=CD=E5=C7=C8=D0=C0=CE=EF=D6=CA=C3=B3=D2=D7=A3=A8=BC=AF=CD=C5=A3=A9=D3= =D0=CF=DE=B9=AB=CB=BE-=B5=E7=C4=D4/=CA=D6=BB=FA=BD=F8=BF=DA=C5=FA=B7=A2=C3= =B3=D2=D7 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index.html in /usr/www? In-Reply-To: <20011118145545.CA9F61353B@netcom1.netcom.com> To: Mike Harding Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:38:01 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-Face: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL95a (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Harding wrote: > > OK, first experiment - I log in as root, so all SGML* variables are > unset. Same result. that's bad but I also always login as root :) > I also commented the 'tidy' run out of the makefile, same result. > > I think that there is something wrong with recent libxml2/libxslt > ports maybe? KDE doesn't build right now either. Are you running > with current ports? Mine are current as of today... # cd /var/db/pkg # ls -d *xml* *xslt* drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Nov 4 05:52 docbook-xml-4.1.2 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Oct 30 23:29 libxml-1.8.15 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Nov 4 05:45 libxml2-2.4.6 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Nov 4 05:45 libxslt-1.0.5 I update my ports between 1 to 3 months and I currently don't have the time to work on -doc. from next week, I would have more time... Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 10: 0:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (aragon.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D52A37B419 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:00:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 57563821 invoked by uid 0); 18 Nov 2001 18:00:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.229.145]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 18 Nov 2001 18:00:12 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAII0BB82958; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:00:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200111181800.fAII0BB82958@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: docs/31838: qa mailing list is missing from search In-Reply-To: <200111180703.fAI731Q55225@gits.dyndns.org> To: clefevre@citeweb.net Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:00:11 +0100 (CET) Cc: dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-Face: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL95a (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > [snip] > > well, I've tried to subscribe to -www w/ no luck while searching > > the list show that it is still open ! I will try to subscribe it > > again. > > > > PS : the returning message was that -www was closed. > > here is the message I sent : > > > From root Sun Nov 18 06:05:18 2001 > > Subject: subscribe > > To: majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:05:18 +0100 (CET) > > Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net > > From: Cyrille Lefevre > > Organization: ACME > > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL95a (25)] > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Content-Length: 45 > > Status: O > > > > subscribe freebsd-www clefevre-lists@noos.fr > > and the answer : > > > From Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 18 07:45:32 2001 > > Received: from ctw2ctrl.citeweb.net [204.198.135.111] > > by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.8.17) > > for root@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:45:32 +0100 (CET) > > Received: from mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119] by ctw2.citeweb.net > > (SMTPD32-6.00) id A170C62100EA; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:04:48 +0100 > > Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18]) > > by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B8955439 > > for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 21:05:27 -0800 (PST) > > (envelope-from Majordomo-Owner@FreeBSD.ORG) > > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) > > id D3EA237B416; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 21:05:26 -0800 (PST) > > To: clefevre@citeweb.net > > From: Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Majordomo results: subscribe > > Reply-To: Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG > > Message-ID: <20011118050526.D3EA237B416@hub.freebsd.org> > > Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 21:05:26 -0800 (PST) > > X-RCPT-TO: > > X-UIDL: 4240 > > Status: U > > Lines: 269 > > > > > > -- > > > > **** subscribe: unknown list ''. > > >>>> subscribe freebsd-www clefevre-lists@noos.fr > > You tried to "subscribe" to a closed list "freebsd-www" at Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG. > > > > We have some closed lists: > > > > Some lists that are aliases for other lists. > > The list "test" is an alias for "freebsd-test". > > If you tried to subscribe a list of this type, > > please subscribe to "freebsd-freebsd-www" instead. > > > > If you have any questions about the policy of the list owner, please > > contact "freebsd-www-approval@FreeBSD.ORG". > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG > > I will try www instead of freebsd-www but, IMHO, both should work... same answer w/ `subscribe freebsd-www clefevre-lists@noos.fr'. so, the -www ml seems to have some traffic but it also seems that nobody can subscribe to it. CC -www Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 10: 9:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (lafontaine.noos.net [212.198.2.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D251037B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:09:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 100517753 invoked by uid 0); 18 Nov 2001 18:09:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.229.145]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.72 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 18 Nov 2001 18:09:47 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAII9jY83271; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:09:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200111181809.fAII9jY83271@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: empty index.html in /usr/www? In-Reply-To: To: Andrew McKay Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:09:45 +0100 (CET) Cc: Mike Harding , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-Face: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL95a (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew McKay wrote: > On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Mike Harding wrote: > > MH> I have been building the freebsd web site locally for a while - right > MH> now the main index.html is empty. The makefile is outputting the > MH> file, but the result is empty... 0 bytes. > > I'm getting the same here too. I tried the .profile fixing that Cyrille > suggested but, aiui, that would have nothing to do with the building of > index.html anyway. I'm using a local repo, synced 6 hourly, and this I think so, but who says ;^) > was on a totally clean build from sources freshly checked out yesterday > morning. Everything else seems to have built fine but for the null > index.html (actually I get it to be 1 byte: > # ls -l index.html > -rw-r--r-- 1 root cvsupin 1 Nov 18 14:38 index.html > ). I've checked the CVS tree at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/www/en/ and everything looks fine. > Not quite sure what the problem is but it doesn't appear to be tidy > related. If I take the tidy line out of the Makefile the file ends up try to reinstall older docproj stuffs from packages and not from ports. > being 0 bytes (as opposed to 1 byte if tidy is involved). I don't yet > know enough about this xsl stuff to work out where the problem is but I > have a feeling it's not just a local thing. as Mike says, maybe the problem isn't there but in libxml or xsltproc ? Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 12:20: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7683437B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAIKK0776461; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:20:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A3637B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:13:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 165YJe-0004WM-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:13:22 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165YJb-000EfO-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:13:19 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:13:19 +0000 From: Ceri Reply-To: Ceri To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32082 >Category: docs >Synopsis: true.1 totally incorrect >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Nov 18 12:20:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: setantae@submonkey.net >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 16 21:14:33 GMT 2001 root@rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386 >Description: true.1 states that the appropriate return status from true is "false". Which is clearly not the case. >How-To-Repeat: man true >Fix: Apply this patch : *** src/usr.bin/true/true.1.old Sun Nov 18 20:08:15 2001 --- src/usr.bin/true/true.1 Sun Nov 18 20:08:30 2001 *************** *** 47,53 **** The .Nm command is normally used in a Bourne shell script. ! It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running (or failing to run) a list of commands. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , --- 47,53 ---- The .Nm command is normally used in a Bourne shell script. ! It tests for the appropriate status "true" before running (or failing to run) a list of commands. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 12:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B35237B41A for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAIKU2s77707; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5D537B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 165YYi-0004pq-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:28:56 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165YYd-000EnP-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:28:51 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:28:51 +0000 From: Ceri Reply-To: Ceri To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32083: Minor grammar fix in from.1 (plus avoid uppercasing program name) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32083 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Minor grammar fix in from.1 (plus avoid uppercasing program name) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Nov 18 12:30:02 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: setantae@submonkey.net >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 16 21:14:33 GMT 2001 root@rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386 >Description: There is an additional comma in from.1 which is grammatically incorrect. Also, the manual page uppercases the program name, which I believe is undesirable. >How-To-Repeat: man from >Fix: Apply this patch: *** src/usr.bin/from/from.1.old Sun Nov 18 20:24:11 2001 --- src/usr.bin/from/from.1 Sun Nov 18 20:24:48 2001 *************** *** 45,52 **** .Op Fl f Ar file .Op Ar user .Sh DESCRIPTION ! .Nm From ! prints out the mail header lines from the invoker's mailbox. .Pp Options: --- 45,53 ---- .Op Fl f Ar file .Op Ar user .Sh DESCRIPTION ! The ! .Nm ! utility prints out the mail header lines from the invoker's mailbox. .Pp Options: *************** *** 74,80 **** .Ar user is given, the .Ar user Ns 's ! mailbox, is examined instead of the invoker's own mailbox. (Privileges are required.) .Sh ENVIRONMENT .Bl -tag -width Fl --- 75,81 ---- .Ar user is given, the .Ar user Ns 's ! mailbox is examined instead of the invoker's own mailbox. (Privileges are required.) .Sh ENVIRONMENT .Bl -tag -width Fl >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 12:40: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC60E37B418 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAIKe1X79043; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05BF37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:34:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 165Ye1-0004uZ-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:34:25 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165YcY-000ErB-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:32:54 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:32:54 +0000 From: Ceri Reply-To: Ceri To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32084: Minor grammar fixup in fold.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32084 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Minor grammar fixup in fold.1 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Nov 18 12:40:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: setantae@submonkey.net >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 16 21:14:33 GMT 2001 root@rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386 >Description: fold.1 has a grammatical error. >How-To-Repeat: man 1 fold >Fix: Apply this patch: *** src/usr.bin/fold/fold.1.old Sun Nov 18 20:30:49 2001 --- src/usr.bin/fold/fold.1 Sun Nov 18 20:31:05 2001 *************** *** 46,52 **** .Nm Fold is a filter which folds the contents of the specified files, or the standard input if no files are specified, ! breaking the lines to have maximum of 80 characters. .Pp The options are as follows: .Bl -tag -width indent --- 46,52 ---- .Nm Fold is a filter which folds the contents of the specified files, or the standard input if no files are specified, ! breaking the lines to have a maximum of 80 characters. .Pp The options are as follows: .Bl -tag -width indent >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 12:50: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1865737B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAIKo1D79995; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA8637B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:40:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 165Yk7-00050L-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:40:43 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165Yk4-000Ew0-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:40:40 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:40:40 +0000 From: Ceri Reply-To: Ceri To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32085: fortune.6 contains an error regarding -e option Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32085 >Category: docs >Synopsis: fortune.6 contains an error regarding -e option >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Nov 18 12:50:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: setantae@submonkey.net >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 16 21:14:33 GMT 2001 root@rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386 >Description: fortune.6 states that fortune -e is equivalent to fortune 50% funny 50% not-funny which is only true if funny and not-funny are the only fortune databases that you have. >How-To-Repeat: man 6 fortune >Fix: Be more specific with the following patch : *** src/games/fortune/fortune/fortune.6.old Sun Nov 18 20:36:24 2001 --- src/games/fortune/fortune/fortune.6 Sun Nov 18 20:37:02 2001 *************** *** 162,168 **** option says to consider all files equal; thus .Bd -literal -offset indent ! fortune -e .Ed .Pp is equivalent to --- 162,168 ---- option says to consider all files equal; thus .Bd -literal -offset indent ! fortune -e funny not-funny .Ed .Pp is equivalent to >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 13:10: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F4B37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAILA0l84818; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:10:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A40E37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:03:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 165Z67-0005Uh-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:03:27 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165Z64-000F8j-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:03:24 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:03:24 +0000 From: Ceri Reply-To: Ceri To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32086: Markup fix for at.man Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32086 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Markup fix for at.man >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Nov 18 13:10:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: setantae@submonkey.net >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 16 21:14:33 GMT 2001 root@rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386 >Description: at.man is missing markup for the program name. >How-To-Repeat: man 1 at >Fix: Apply this patch : *** src/usr.bin/at/at.man.old Sun Nov 18 20:55:53 2001 --- src/usr.bin/at/at.man Sun Nov 18 20:57:56 2001 *************** *** 148,154 **** shell, the owner of the login shell will receive the mail. .Pp The superuser may use these commands in any case. ! For other users, permission to use at is determined by the files .Pa _PERM_PATH/at.allow and .Pa _PERM_PATH/at.deny . --- 148,156 ---- shell, the owner of the login shell will receive the mail. .Pp The superuser may use these commands in any case. ! For other users, permission to use ! .Nm ! is determined by the files .Pa _PERM_PATH/at.allow and .Pa _PERM_PATH/at.deny . >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 13:20: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1246F37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAILK1G85674; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D474237B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 165ZHP-0005hp-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:15:07 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165ZHM-000FEy-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:15:04 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:15:04 +0000 From: Ceri Reply-To: Ceri To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32087: quotaon.8 contains repeated words. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32087 >Category: docs >Synopsis: quotaon.8 contains repeated words. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Nov 18 13:20:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: setantae@submonkey.net >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 16 21:14:33 GMT 2001 root@rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386 >Description: quotaon.8 contains a repeated word. >How-To-Repeat: man 8 quotaon >Fix: Apply this patch: *** src/usr.sbin/quotaon/quotaon.8.old Sun Nov 18 21:10:53 2001 --- src/usr.sbin/quotaon/quotaon.8 Sun Nov 18 21:12:41 2001 *************** *** 68,75 **** filesystems. .Nm Quotaoff announces to the system that the specified ! filesystems should have any disk quotas ! diskquotas turned off. The filesystems specified must have entries in .Pa /etc/fstab and be mounted. --- 68,74 ---- filesystems. .Nm Quotaoff announces to the system that the specified ! filesystems should have any disk quotas turned off. The filesystems specified must have entries in .Pa /etc/fstab and be mounted. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 15:20:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1F537B419 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAINK1I04371; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from Kain.sumuk.de (Kain.sumuk.de [213.221.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B63137B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Kain.sumuk.de (8.11.5/8.11.5) id fAINFAf01968; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:15:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vincent) Message-Id: <200111182315.fAINFAf01968@Kain.sumuk.de> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:15:10 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Heinen Reply-To: Martin Heinen To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32094: Whitespace changes for chapter Security Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32094 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Whitespace changes for chapter Security >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Nov 18 15:20:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martin Heinen >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD Kain.sumuk.de 4.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE #11: Thu Sep 27 18:54:33 CEST 2001 toor@Kain.earth.sol:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KAIN i386 >Description: fixed line breakings, moved closing to the end of a paragraph, indented tags spreading across lines >How-To-Repeat: read the Security chapter >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.98 diff -u -r1.98 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2001/11/16 12:07:18 1.98 +++ chapter.sgml 2001/11/18 22:57:14 @@ -187,10 +187,11 @@ successful logins. One must always assume that once an attacker has access to a - user account, the attacker can break root. However, the reality is - that in a well secured and maintained system, access to a user - account does not necessarily give the attacker access to root. The - distinction is important because without access to root the attacker + user account, the attacker can break root. + However, the reality is that in a well secured and maintained system, + access to a user account does not necessarily give the attacker + access to root. The distinction is important + because without access to root the attacker cannot generally hide his tracks and may, at best, be able to do nothing more than mess with the user's files, or crash the machine. User account compromises are very common because users tend not to @@ -202,19 +203,22 @@ System administrators must keep in mind that there are - potentially many ways to break root on a machine. The attacker - may know the root password, the attacker may find a bug in a - root-run server and be able to break root over a network + potentially many ways to break root on a machine. + The attacker may know the root password, + the attacker may find a bug in a root-run server and be able + to break root over a network connection to that server, or the attacker may know of a bug in - a suid-root program that allows the attacker to break root once - he has broken into a user's account. If an attacker has found - a way to break root on a machine, the attacker may not have a need + a suid-root program that allows the attacker to break + root once he has broken into a user's account. + If an attacker has found a way to break root + on a machine, the attacker may not have a need to install a backdoor. Many of the root holes found and closed to date involve a considerable amount of work by the attacker to cleanup after himself, so most attackers install backdoors. A backdoor provides the attacker with a way to easily - regain root access to the system, but it also gives the smart - system administrator a convenient way to detect the intrusion. + regain root access to the system, but it + also gives the smart system administrator a convenient way + to detect the intrusion. Making it impossible for an attacker to install a backdoor may actually be detrimental to your security, because it will not close off the hole the attacker found to break in the first @@ -231,8 +235,8 @@ - Securing root – root-run servers and suid/sgid - binaries. + Securing root – root-run servers + and suid/sgid binaries. @@ -280,17 +284,19 @@ The sections that follow will cover the methods of securing your FreeBSD system that were mentioned in the last section of this chapter. + linkend="security-intro">last section of this chapter. - Securing the <username>root</username> Account and Staff Accounts + Securing the <username>root</username> Account and + Staff Accounts su First off, do not bother securing staff accounts if you have - not secured the root account. Most systems have a password - assigned to the root account. The first thing you do is assume + not secured the root account. + Most systems have a password assigned to the root + account. The first thing you do is assume that the password is always compromised. This does not mean that you should remove the password. The password is almost always necessary for console access to the @@ -298,53 +304,62 @@ possible to use the password outside of the console or possibly even with the &man.su.1; command. For example, make sure that your pty's are specified as being unsecure in the - /etc/ttys file so that direct root logins + /etc/ttys file so that direct + root logins via telnet or rlogin are disallowed. If using other login services such as - sshd, make sure that direct root - logins are disabled there as well. You can do this by editing + sshd, make sure that direct + root logins are disabled there as well. + You can do this by editing your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file, and making sure that PermitRootLogin is set to NO. Consider every access method – - services such as FTP often fall through the cracks. Direct root - logins should only be allowed via the system console. + services such as FTP often fall through the cracks. + Direct root logins should only be allowed + via the system console. wheel - Of course, as a sysadmin you have to be able to get to root, - so we open up a few holes. But we make sure these holes require - additional password verification to operate. One way to make root + Of course, as a sysadmin you have to be able to get to + root, so we open up a few holes. + But we make sure these holes require additional password + verification to operate. One way to make root accessible is to add appropriate staff accounts to the wheel group (in /etc/group). The staff members placed in the wheel group are allowed to - su to root. You should never give staff + su to root. + You should never give staff members native wheel access by putting them in the wheel group in their password entry. Staff accounts should be placed in a staff group, and then added to the wheel group via the /etc/group file. Only those staff members - who actually need to have root access should be placed in the + who actually need to have root access + should be placed in the wheel group. It is also possible, when using an authentication method such as Kerberos, to use Kerberos' - .k5login file in the root account to allow a - &man.ksu.1; to root without having to place anyone at all in the + .k5login file in the root + account to allow a &man.ksu.1; to root + without having to place anyone at all in the wheel group. This may be the better solution since the wheel mechanism still allows an - intruder to break root if the intruder has gotten hold of your + intruder to break root if the intruder + has gotten hold of your password file and can break into a staff account. While having the wheel mechanism is better than having nothing at all, it is not necessarily the safest option. An indirect way to secure staff accounts, and ultimately - root access is to use an alternative login access method and + root access is to use an alternative + login access method and do what is known as starring out the crypted password for the staff accounts. Using the &man.vipw.8; command, one can replace each instance of a crypted password - with a single * character. This command - will update the /etc/master.passwd file - and user/password database to disable password-authenticated + with a single * character. + This command will update the /etc/master.passwd + file and user/password database to disable password-authenticated logins. A staff account entry such as: @@ -357,7 +372,8 @@ This change will prevent normal logins from occurring, since the encrypted password will never match - *. With this done, staff members must use + *. With this done, + staff members must use another mechanism to authenticate themselves such as &man.kerberos.1; or &man.ssh.1; using a public/private key pair. When using something like Kerberos, one generally must @@ -437,10 +453,10 @@ most bug-prone. For example, running an old version of imapd or popper is like giving a universal - root ticket out to the entire world. Never run a server that - you have not checked out carefully. Many servers do not need to - be run as root. For example, the - ntalk, + root ticket out to the entire world. + Never run a server that you have not checked out carefully. + Many servers do not need to be run as root. + For example, the ntalk, comsat, and finger daemons can be run in special user sandboxes. A sandbox is not perfect, @@ -450,8 +466,8 @@ break out of the sandbox. The more layers the attacker must break through, the lower the likelihood of his success. Root holes have historically been found in virtually every server - ever run as root, including basic system servers. If you are - running a machine through which people only login via + ever run as root, including basic system servers. + If you are running a machine through which people only login via sshd and never login via telnetd or rshd or @@ -481,17 +497,19 @@ and others. There are alternatives to some of these, but installing them may require more work than you are willing to perform (the convenience factor strikes again). You may have to - run these servers as root and rely on other mechanisms to detect - break-ins that might occur through them. + run these servers as root and rely on other + mechanisms to detect break-ins that might occur through them. - The other big potential root holes in a system are the + The other big potential root holes in a + system are the suid-root and sgid binaries installed on the system. Most of these binaries, such as rlogin, reside in /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, or /usr/sbin. While nothing is 100% safe, the system-default suid and sgid - binaries can be considered reasonably safe. Still, root holes are - occasionally found in these binaries. A root hole was found in + binaries can be considered reasonably safe. Still, + root holes are occasionally found in these + binaries. A root hole was found in Xlib in 1998 that made xterm (which is typically suid) vulnerable. It is better to be safe than sorry and the prudent @@ -537,13 +555,13 @@ passwords as you can and use ssh or Kerberos for access to those accounts. Even though the crypted password file (/etc/spwd.db) can only be read - by root, it may be possible for an intruder to obtain read access - to that file even if the attacker cannot obtain root-write - access. + by root, it may be possible for an intruder + to obtain read access to that file even if the attacker cannot + obtain root-write access. Your security scripts should always check for and report changes to the password file (see the Checking file integrity section + linkend="security-integrity">Checking file integrity section below). @@ -551,7 +569,8 @@ Securing the Kernel Core, Raw Devices, and Filesystems - If an attacker breaks root he can do just about anything, but + If an attacker breaks root he can do + just about anything, but there are certain conveniences. For example, most modern kernels have a packet sniffing device driver built in. Under FreeBSD it is called the bpf device. An intruder @@ -765,8 +784,7 @@ delivery you can run the queue at a much lower interval, such as , but be sure to specify a reasonable MaxDaemonChildren option for - that sendmail to prevent cascade failures. - + that sendmail to prevent cascade failures. Syslogd can be attacked directly and it is strongly recommended that you use the @@ -783,7 +801,8 @@ external access by firewalling them off at your border routers. The idea here is to prevent saturation attacks from outside your LAN, not so much to protect internal services from network-based - root compromise. Always configure an exclusive firewall, i.e., + root compromise. + Always configure an exclusive firewall, i.e., firewall everything except ports A, B, C, D, and M-Z. This way you can firewall off all of your low ports except for certain specific services such as @@ -903,7 +922,8 @@ ssh to an unsecure machine, your keys becomes exposed. The actual keys themselves are not exposed, but ssh installs a forwarding port for the - duration of your login, and if an attacker has broken root on the + duration of your login, and if an attacker has broken + root on the unsecure machine he can utilize that port to use your keys to gain access to any other machine that your keys unlock. @@ -1445,8 +1465,8 @@ You should now edit the krb.conf and krb.realms files to define your Kerberos realm. In this case the realm will be EXAMPLE.COM and the - server is grunt.example.com. We edit or create - the krb.conf file: + server is grunt.example.com. We edit + or create the krb.conf file: &prompt.root; cat krb.conf EXAMPLE.COM @@ -1804,8 +1824,9 @@ <principal>.<instance> of the form <username>.root will allow that <username> to su to - root if the necessary entries are in the .klogin - file in root's home directory: + root if the necessary entries are in the + .klogin file in root's + home directory: &prompt.root; cat /root/.klogin jane.root@EXAMPLE.COM @@ -1838,7 +1859,8 @@ FreeBSD BUILT-19950429 (GR386) #0: Sat Apr 29 17:50:09 SAT 1995 - Or Jack logs into Jane's account on the same machine (jane having + Or Jack logs into Jane's account on the same machine + (jane having set up the .klogin file as above, and the person in charge of Kerberos having set up principal jack with a null instance: @@ -2640,7 +2662,8 @@ elsewhere, and is not available for unrestricted use. IDEA is included in the OpenSSL sources in FreeBSD, but it is not built by default. If you wish to use it, and you comply with the - license terms, enable the MAKE_IDEA switch in /etc/make.conf and + license terms, enable the MAKE_IDEA switch in + /etc/make.conf and rebuild your sources using make world. Today, the RSA algorithm is free for use in USA and other @@ -2726,21 +2749,23 @@ From HOST B to HOST A, new AH and new ESP are combined. Now we should choose an algorithm to be used corresponding to - AH/new AH/ESP/new ESP. Please refer to the &man.setkey.8; man + AH/new AH/ESP/ + new ESP. Please refer to the &man.setkey.8; man page to know algorithm names. Our choice is MD5 for AH, new-HMAC-SHA1 for new AH, and new-DES-expIV with 8 byte IV for new ESP. Key length highly depends on each algorithm. For example, key length must be equal to 16 bytes for MD5, 20 for new-HMAC-SHA1, and 8 for new-DES-expIV. Now we choose MYSECRETMYSECRET, - KAMEKAMEKAMEKAMEKAME, PASSWORD, respectively. + KAMEKAMEKAMEKAMEKAME, PASSWORD, + respectively. OK, let us assign SPI (Security Parameter Index) for each protocol. Please note that we need 3 SPIs for this secure channel since three security headers are produced (one for from HOST A to HOST B, two for from HOST B to HOST A). Please also note that SPI MUST be greater - than or equal to 256. We choose, 1000, 2000, and 3000, respectively. - + than or equal to 256. We choose, 1000, 2000, and 3000, + respectively. (1) @@ -2827,9 +2852,10 @@ fec0::10 -------------------- fec0::11 - Encryption algorithm is blowfish-cbc whose key is kamekame, and - authentication algorithm is hmac-sha1 whose key is this is the test - key. Configuration at Host-A: + Encryption algorithm is blowfish-cbc whose key is + kamekame, and authentication algorithm is hmac-sha1 + whose key is this is the test key. + Configuration at Host-A: &prompt.root; setkey -c <<EOF @@ -2899,10 +2925,11 @@ EOF - If the port number field is omitted such as above then [any] is - employed. -m specifies the mode of SA to be used. -m any means - wild-card of mode of security protocol. You can use this SA for both - tunnel and transport mode. + If the port number field is omitted such as above then + [any] is employed. -m + specifies the mode of SA to be used. -m any means + wild-card of mode of security protocol. You can use this SA for both + tunnel and transport mode. and at Gateway-B: @@ -3062,12 +3089,11 @@ Be sure to make the following additions to your - rc.conf file: - + rc.conf file: sshd_enable="YES" - This will load the ssh daemon the next time your system - initializes. Alternatively, you can simply run the - sshd daemon. + This will load the ssh daemon + the next time your system initializes. Alternatively, you can + simply run the sshd daemon. @@ -3090,7 +3116,8 @@ created using rlogin or telnet. SSH utilizes a key fingerprint system for verifying the authenticity of the server when the - client connects. The user is prompted to enter yes only when + client connects. The user is prompted to enter + yes only when connecting for the first time. Future attempts to login are all verified against the saved fingerprint key. The SSH client will alert you if the saved fingerprint differs from the @@ -3117,9 +3144,9 @@ scp - The scp command works similarly to rcp; - it copies a file to or from a remote machine, except in a - secure fashion. + The scp command works similarly to + rcp; it copies a file to or from a remote machine, + except in a secure fashion. &prompt.root scp user@example.com:/COPYRIGHT COPYRIGHT user@example.com's password: @@ -3128,8 +3155,7 @@ &prompt.root Since the fingerprint was already saved for this host in the previous example, it is verified when using scp - here. - + here. The arguments passed to scp are similar to cp, with the file or files in the first @@ -3278,19 +3304,20 @@ - An SSH tunnel works by creating a listen socket on localhost - on the specified port. It then forwards any connection received + An SSH tunnel works by creating a listen socket on + localhost on the specified port. + It then forwards any connection received on the local host/port via the SSH connection to the specified remote host and port. In the example, port 5023 on localhost is being forwarded to port - 23 on localhost of the remote - machine. Since 23 is telnet, this - would create a secure telnet session through an SSH tunnel. + 23 on localhost + of the remote machine. Since 23 is telnet, + this would create a secure telnet session through an SSH tunnel. - This can be used to wrap any number of insecure TCP protocols - such as smtp, pop3, ftp, etc. + This can be used to wrap any number of insecure TCP protocols + such as smtp, pop3, ftp, etc. A typical SSH Tunnel &prompt.user; ssh -2 -N -f -L 5025:localhost:25 user@mailserver.example.com >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 16:25:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.cfl.rr.com [65.32.2.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1C937B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from oemcomputer (24.26.60.217.portorange-ubr-a.cfl.rr.com [24.26.60.217]) by smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id fAJ0PWJ19567 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:25:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001801c17091$22c6b060$6401a8c0@mshome.net> From: "Jerome Serwas" To: "doc @Free BSD.org" Subject: [active partition] not found Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:28:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C17067.39AD84E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C17067.39AD84E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am by no means am I one of your egg-heads, re: bizare installation problems. Reading Ms Anderson's FreeBSD I'm getting the idea that I'll be up and running FBSD in an hour maybe 2. WRONG ! That's been at least 3 days ago. =20 Each time I think I've made the appropriate change(s) I get blown out of the water by the same error; "Not found any [active partition] in HDD DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER" I hate to admit defeat but at my age this is kicking my butt. Tried a variety of approaches to solve but none worked.=20 Should I give up, delete all and start over, or tackle a fixit ? Got some good advice for me? Machine is an 1998 IBM P II, 8G IDE (1) w/ Win98 2nd drive, 4G IDE intended for FBSD. 64MB RAM RR cable (DSL) modem. Regards, Jerry Serwas Daytona Beach, FL ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C17067.39AD84E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am by no means am I one of your=20 egg-heads,
 re: bizare installation = problems.
 
Reading Ms Anderson's FreeBSD I'm = getting the=20 idea
that I'll be up and running FBSD in an = hour maybe=20 2.
WRONG ! That's been at least 3 days = ago. =20
Each time I think I've made the=20 appropriate change(s)
I get blown out of the water by the = same error;=20 "Not
found any [active partition] in = HDD
DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK=20 AND
PRESS ENTER"
I hate to admit defeat but at my age = this is=20 kicking my
butt.  Tried a variety of = approaches to solve=20 but none
worked. 
Should I give up, delete all and start = over, or=20 tackle
a fixit ?  Got some good advice = for=20 me?
 
Machine is an 1998 IBM P II, 8G IDE (1) = w/=20 Win98
2nd drive, 4G IDE intended for = FBSD. 64MB=20 RAM
RR cable (DSL) modem.
 
Regards,
 
Jerry Serwas
Daytona Beach, FL
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C17067.39AD84E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 16:33: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21103.mail.yahoo.com (web21103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2667C37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:33:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011119003303.62870.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.4] by web21103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:33:03 PST Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:33:03 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: [PATCH] - fix for the custom kernel chapter in the handbook To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: nik@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-716216444-1006129983=:61716" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0-716216444-1006129983=:61716 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline hi all, there was a message posted to the doc mailing list a couple of weeks ago, stating that the custom kernel chapter in the handbook... ...that it did not show how to unload the kernel before reloading the backup kernel (in the troubleshooting section).... ...I am therefore submitting a patch which will fix this problem by showing the user how to unload the kernel.... file is located at: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml Patch starts here... ------------------------------------------------------ *** chapter.sgml Tue Oct 23 23:12:36 2001 --- patch.sgml Sun Nov 18 22:48:14 2001 *************** *** 1272,1280 **** kernels. Simply choose the kernel you want to boot from at the FreeBSD boot loader. You can access this when the system counts down from 10. Hit any key except for the enter key, ! and type boot ! kernel.old, or the ! filename of any other kernel that will boot properly. When reconfiguring a kernel, it is always a good idea to keep a kernel that is known to work on hand. --- 1272,1281 ---- kernels. Simply choose the kernel you want to boot from at the FreeBSD boot loader. You can access this when the system counts down from 10. Hit any key except for the enter key, ! and type unload ! kernel, and then type ! boot kernel.old ! or the filename of any other kernel that will boot properly. When reconfiguring a kernel, it is always a good idea to keep a kernel that is known to work on hand. ------------------------------------------------------- ...i am also submitting a tarred and gzipped version of the patch in case this patch gets messed up on the way... thanks... ===== regards, Hiten Pandya ---------------------------------------------------- Guys!... stay away from Einstein Junior! ---------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <20632.1006144328.1@piper.nectar.cs.cmu.edu> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:32:09 -0500 Message-ID: <20633.1006144329@piper.nectar.cs.cmu.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html says CompUSA carries FreeBSD boxed sets, but I just failed to find them on their web site--I tried "freebsd" and "free bsd" in the search box and also manually browsed their operating system offerings. If they have quit carrying FreeBSD, you might want to delete the link to them. Dave Eckhardt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 21:40: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E04F37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJ5e3269173; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:40:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111190540.fAJ5e3269173@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32082; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Ceri Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Date: 18 Nov 2001 21:34:29 -0800 Ceri writes: > >Description: > true.1 states that the appropriate return status from true is "false". > Which is clearly not the case. But it doesn't say that. It says it returns zero, which is correct. > ! It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running > (or failing to run) a list of commands. The "It" here is confusingly referring to a Bourne shell script that it confusingly brings into the description. The whole first paragraphs, or at least the second sentences, of both true(1) and false(1) should be trashed, based on my quick look at it. Maybe moved to another section, or at least put after the real decription ("This command does nothing but return an exit status of X"). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 18 21:58:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDF137B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 2BB9D4B65D; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:57:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:57:46 -0800 From: murray@stokely.org To: davide+receptionist@cs.cmu.edu Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CompUSA? Message-ID: <20011118215746.F27929@windriver.com> References: <20633.1006144329@piper.nectar.cs.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20633.1006144329@piper.nectar.cs.cmu.edu>; from davide+receptionist@cs.cmu.edu on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 11:32:09PM -0500 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've never failed to see the boxed products on the shelves when I walk into a CompUSA store. Did you email the CompUSA web sales people and express your interest at buying the product online? I've personally never looked to see if the product was being sold on their web store. - Murray On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 11:32:09PM -0500, davide+receptionist@cs.cmu.edu wr= ote: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html > says CompUSA carries FreeBSD boxed sets, but I just failed to find them > on their web site--I tried "freebsd" and "free bsd" in the search > box and also manually browsed their operating system offerings. >=20 > If they have quit carrying FreeBSD, you might want to delete the link > to them. >=20 > Dave Eckhardt >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+J9ZtNcQog5FH30RAhvNAJ9fJm6ln6o0isXv6GmtUkUc+g/KQgCeMP2p SAkcwpfW+iQIuBfKzmTfcjs= =NPuf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 0:19:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E4E37B416; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJ8ChI03679; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:12:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:12:43 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111190812.fAJ8ChI03679@freefall.freebsd.org> To: setantae@submonkey.net, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32086: Markup fix for at.man Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Markup fix for at.man State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 00:12:18 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->murray Responsible-Changed-By: murray Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 00:12:18 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: My MFC reminder. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32086 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 0:20:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC5C37B418; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id DB0464B65D; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:20:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:20:14 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: murray@FreeBSD.org Cc: setantae@submonkey.net, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32086: Markup fix for at.man Message-ID: <20011119002014.J27929@windriver.com> References: <200111190812.fAJ8ChI03679@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111190812.fAJ8ChI03679@freefall.freebsd.org>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 12:12:43AM -0800 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 12:12:43AM -0800, murray@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: Markup fix for at.man > > State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed > State-Changed-By: murray > State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 00:12:18 PST 2001 > State-Changed-Why: > Sorry, I meant to say that this was committed to -CURRENT. Thanks for the submission! - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 0:29:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B2137B418; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJ8OfO06003; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:24:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:24:41 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111190824.fAJ8OfO06003@freefall.freebsd.org> To: neve_ripe@yahoo.com, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/25239: fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about old ports layout Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about old ports layout State-Changed-From-To: analyzed->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 00:22:01 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: The French translation has to catch up with lots of fixes to the English version, not just this one minor fix. I think we can close this PR. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25239 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 0:29:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF3D37B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:29:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJ8KtI05347; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:20:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:20:55 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111190820.fAJ8KtI05347@freefall.freebsd.org> To: setantae@submonkey.net, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32087: quotaon.8 contains repeated words. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: quotaon.8 contains repeated words. State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 00:20:34 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Your change has been committed to -CURRENT. Thanks for the submission! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->murray Responsible-Changed-By: murray Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 00:20:34 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: My MFC reminder. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32087 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 0:29:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95F437B41A; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:29:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJ8TFn06911; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:29:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:29:15 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111190829.fAJ8TFn06911@freefall.freebsd.org> To: neve_ripe@yahoo.com, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/25239: fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about old ports layout Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about old ports layout State-Changed-From-To: closed->analyzed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 00:28:30 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: This PR has issues. I've committed the patch to the french document but it won't let me close the PR. I'll try to move the state back to analyzed and then to closed again to try to fix this. Sorry for the emails. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25239 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 0:39:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B83137B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:39:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJ8TVp07054; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:29:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:29:31 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111190829.fAJ8TVp07054@freefall.freebsd.org> To: neve_ripe@yahoo.com, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/25239: fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about old ports layout Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about old ports layout State-Changed-From-To: analyzed->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 00:29:19 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: This PR is closed, the issue has been resolved. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25239 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 0:39:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2058337B416; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJ8Wj607594; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:32:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:32:45 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111190832.fAJ8Wj607594@freefall.freebsd.org> To: amorita@freebsd.org, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31350: make of doc module fails after 'make obj' Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: make of doc module fails after 'make obj' State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 00:32:09 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: The submitter confirms that the problem has been solved. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this PR! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31350 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 0:39:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B735937B417; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJ8acc08280; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:36:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:36:38 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111190836.fAJ8acc08280@freefall.freebsd.org> To: setantae@submonkey.net, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32084: Minor grammar fixup in fold.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Minor grammar fixup in fold.1 State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 00:36:04 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Your change has been committed to -CURRENT. Thanks for the submission. I will merge this to -STABLE within a week. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->murray Responsible-Changed-By: murray Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 00:36:04 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: My MFC reminder. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32084 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 0:50:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45A037B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJ8o0R10060; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:50:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFF237B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:48:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJ8mEE09750; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:48:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200111190848.fAJ8mEE09750@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:48:14 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/32101: [PATCH] - Resolving an issue with the 'custom kernel' chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32101 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] - Resolving an issue with the 'custom kernel' chapter >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Nov 19 00:50:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Hiten Pandya >Release: 5.0-CURRENT >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD nautilus.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Nov 18 21:21:15 GMT 2001 root@nautilus.org:/usr/obj/data/dev/src/sys/CURRENT5 i386 >Description: This fix will resolve an issue i and other newbies used to have, which was not described in the troubleshooting section. It was about unloading the kernel, before loading a new one. I had several requests as i used to help people in my town, and they used to say it was not described in the FreeBSD Handbook >How-To-Repeat: visit the 'if something goes wrong' section of the custom kernel chapter in the FreeBSD Handbook, and it is in the 'kernel will not boot' entry. >Fix: The problem can be fixed by applying this patch to the source file (SGML) of the chapter, which is located at doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml (PATCH STARTS HERE) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *** chapter.sgml Tue Oct 23 23:12:36 2001 --- patch.sgml Sun Nov 18 22:48:14 2001 *************** *** 1272,1280 **** kernels. Simply choose the kernel you want to boot from at the FreeBSD boot loader. You can access this when the system counts down from 10. Hit any key except for the enter key, ! and type boot ! kernel.old, or the ! filename of any other kernel that will boot properly. When reconfiguring a kernel, it is always a good idea to keep a kernel that is known to work on hand. --- 1272,1281 ---- kernels. Simply choose the kernel you want to boot from at the FreeBSD boot loader. You can access this when the system counts down from 10. Hit any key except for the enter key, ! and type unload ! kernel, and then type ! boot kernel.old ! or the filename of any other kernel that will boot properly. When reconfiguring a kernel, it is always a good idea to keep a kernel that is known to work on hand. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 0:59:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E74637B418; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:59:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJ8rHB10640; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:53:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:53:17 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111190853.fAJ8rHB10640@freefall.freebsd.org> To: martin@sumuk.de, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32094: Whitespace changes for chapter Security Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Whitespace changes for chapter Security State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 00:50:46 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Your change has been committed, thanks! While your cleanup is appreciated, it would probably be a lot more beneficial if you could spend time helping us update the content or organization of the material rather than the whitespace. Regardless, thanks for your work and attention to detail! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32094 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 1: 9:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A00037B418; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJ92Gw11830; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:02:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:02:16 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111190902.fAJ92Gw11830@freefall.freebsd.org> To: setantae@submonkey.net, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32083: Minor grammar fix in from.1 (plus avoid uppercasing program name) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Minor grammar fix in from.1 (plus avoid uppercasing program name) State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 01:01:45 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Your change has been committed to -CURRENT, thanks for the submission! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->murray Responsible-Changed-By: murray Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 01:01:45 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: My MFC reminder. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32083 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 1:45:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (www.freebsd.cz [195.113.19.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2038737B417; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (horcicka@localhost) by dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAJ9j8G88447; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:45:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from horcicka@FreeBSD.cz) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:45:08 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Horcicka X-X-Sender: To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Hiroki Sato , , , Subject: Re: Why TIDY can never work correctly with ISO-8859-2 and others In-Reply-To: <20011115215244.A7285@ark.cris.net> Message-ID: <20011119104031.B88374-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexey Zelkin (2001-11-15 21:52 +0200): > [ Cc'ed to maintainer of ports/www/tidy ] > > hi, > > Attached patch does a job. At least my simple tests were passed successfully. > I just added new option '-preserve' to tidy. This option disables > translation of characters entities to characters before processing. > As "side effect" we have all entities saved correctly in output file. > > I would like to have feedback on this one. At least for Russian Doc Project > it should do a good job and I'd like to see it commited. Great! And could it be possible to add another option to turn off the interpretation of .tidyrc in home directory? Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 1:49:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (www.freebsd.cz [195.113.19.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A661C37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:49:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (horcicka@localhost) by dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAJ9nun88851 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:49:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from horcicka@FreeBSD.cz) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:49:56 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Horcicka X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Entitity references in XML/XSL files Message-ID: <20011119104516.D88374-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, is there any way how to get a general entity reference (e.g.  ) into HTML pages generated from XML/XSL? 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2=2E3=B4=D3=D3=CA=BC=FE=B9=E3=B8=E6=B6=D4=C9=FA=D2=E2= =B4=D9=BD=F8=B5=C4=C9=CF=C9=FD=B7=F9=B6=C8=B5=C8=C0=B4=C5=D0=B6=CF=A1=A3

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2=2E4=C9=E8=D6=C3"<= /span>=D0=A3=D1=E9=D0=C5=CF=E4= "=A3=AC=B3=CC=D0=F2=D6=D0=C9=E8=D6=C3"=C3=BF=B7=A2999=B7=E2=D0=C5=A3=AC=CD=AC=CA=B1=CD=F9= =D0=A3=D1=E9=D0=C5=CF=E4=D6=D0=B7=A21=B7=E2=D0=C5"=A1=A3

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=20

3=2E1 =C7=EB=C0=B4=B5=E7=A3=AC=C7=A9=B6=A9=D0=AD=D2=E9= =A1=A3

=20

3=2E2 =B0=B4=D5=D5=D0=AD=D2=E9=A3=AC=B8=F8=CE=D2=C3=C7= =D7=E3=B6=EE=BB=E3=BF=EE=A3=AC=BB=F2=D5=DF=D2=F8=D0=D0=BB=E3=BF=EE=A1=A3

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3=2E3 =C7=EB=BD=AB=D3=CA=BE=D6=BB=E3=BF=EE=CA=D5=BE=DD= =A3=AC=D2=F8=D0=D0=BB=E3=BF=EE=BB=D8=B5=A5=A3=AC=B4=AB=D5=E6=B8=F8=CE=D2=C3= =C7=A1=A3

=20

3=2E4 =D7=A2=D2=E2=BC=EC=B2=E9=D3=CA=BC=FE=B9=E3=B8=E6= =B7=A2=CB=CD=BA=F3=B5=C4=B7=B4=C0=A1=A1=A3

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4 =CE=AA=CA=B2=C3=B4=B2=BB=D7=D4=BC=BA=B7=A2=A3=AC= =B6=F8=C8=C3=CE=D2=C3=C7=C0=B4=B4=FA=C4=E3=B7=A2=A3=BF

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4=2E1 =D2=F2=CE=AA=A3=AC=CE=D2=D3=D0 =20 24 =D0=A1=CA=B1=C3=E2=B7=D1= =C9=CF=CD=F8=B5=C4=B1=E3=C0=FB=A3=AC=D2=F2=CE=AA=A3=AC=CE=D2=B5=C4=B5=E7=C4= =D4=CA=C7 =20 1G =C4=DA=B4=E6=B5=C4=B4=F3= =D0=CD=B7=FE=CE=F1=C6=F7=A3=AC=D2=F2=CE=AA=A3=AC=CE=D2=D3=C3=B5=C4=CA=C7 =20 DDN =D7=A8=CF=DF=C9=CF=CD=F8= =B5=C4=CB=D9=B6=C8=A3=AC=D2=F2=CE=AA=A3=AC=CE=D2=D6=BB=D0=E8=D4=DA=CF=C2=B0= =E0=B5=C4=CA=B1=BA=F2=C7=E1=C7=E1=B5=E3=D2=BB=CF=C2=CA=F3=B1=EA=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E

=20

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=20

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=20

 =BC=D9=C9=E8=CF=D6=D4=DA= =C4=E3=D0=E8=D2=AA=B7=A2=CB=CD100=CD=F2=B7=E2=B9=E3=B8=E6=D0=C5=A3=AC=BA=DC=CF= =D4=C8=BB=A3=AC=C8=E7=B9=FB=D5=E2100=CD=F2=B7=E2=B5=C4=B9=E3=B8=E6=D0=C5=D3=C9=C4= =E3=C0=B4=B7=A2=A3=AC=BC=B4=CA=B9=C4=E3=C8=AB=B2=BF=D4=DA=D2=B9=BC=E4=B0=EB= =BC=DB=CA=B1=B7=A2=CB=CD=A3=AC=C4=E3=D2=B2=D6=C1=C9=D9=D0=E8=D2=AA=D6=A7=B3= =F6 =20 5=2E6 X 2723=3D15248=2E8=D4=AA=D4=AA=A3=BB=A3=A8=C8=AB=BC=DB=CE=AA7=2E6 =20 X 2723=3D20694=2E8=D4=AA=A3=A9=A1=A3

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=20

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=20

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=20

 =D3=CA=BE=D6=BB=E3=BF=EE= =B5=D8=D6=B7=A3=BA

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=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 2:17:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from btamail.net.cn (host1.btamail.net.cn [202.106.196.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D885537B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:16:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc-5([202.108.68.140]) by btamail.net.cn(JetMail 2.5.3.0) with SMTP id jma3bf91597; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:16:36 -0000 x-esmtp: 0 0 1 Message-ID: <3075284-220011111974821366@btamail.net.cn> X-EM-Version: 6, 0, 1, 0 X-EM-Registration: #00F06206106618006920 X-Priority: 3 From: "" To: "doc@FreeBSD.org" Subject: 网上搜集目标客户群，群发邮件 380元/10万封 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:48:21 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8" X-SMTPExp-Version: 1, 0, 2, 13 X-SMTPExp-Registration: 00B0320C107602006905 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" 　　欢迎进入《索文网站》 北京索文翻译有限公司 　索文网络营销服务中心 Soven Translation Co., Ltd. Soven Net-marketing Service Welcome to Soven Website　　 索文网络营销服务中心 提供网络营销服务--网上搜集目标客户群，为您群发邮件 380元/10万封 网络直投广告业务――代发email 广告 1.我们可以提供的服务有： 1.1转让国内、外电子邮件列表（地址目录）。 1.2代理发布国内、外电子邮件信息广告。 2.我们的服务价格是： 2.1代理发布国内、外电子邮件广告：（每10万封 380 元） 发广告信，请让我为您效劳，10万封只需 380 元！ 自己发，需要 2900 多元，我为你发只需 380 元，请你作出明智的选择的！ 电子商务时代，人人都需要发布广告、信息，但是如果你觉得自己发送广告太花时间和成本高，那么让索文网络营销服务中心为您，提供网络营销服务--网上搜集目标客户群，为您群发邮件 电话: 0086-10-62988488， 62978488 (Fax) 呼机: 全国联网 198-10033237 Email: soven@263.net.cn 网站：http://www.soven.com 常见问题回答: 1.委托我们代发广告邮件的价格？ 2.如何知道我是否按数量给你发广告信了？ 3.委托我们代发广告邮件的手续 4.为什么不自己发，而让我来代你发？ 1.委托我们代发广告邮件的价格 1.1 国内（祖国大陆） 共有734万国内电子邮件地址 每10万封 380 元 1.2 国外（大陆以外） 共有1329万国外电子邮件地址 每10万封 380 元 1.3 大客户优惠，一次性付款1200元，可按您的安排30天内发送6批不同内容的广告邮件共60万封。 2. 如何知道我是否按数量给你发广告信了? 这个疑虑是每一个网络的初手所遇到的，也确实是大部分人所担心、关心的问题，这也是网络电子商务目前还存在的弱点----不轻信，相隔远，难追究。而现在，我的客户们大都是从下面几方面来作出判断的： 2.1检测自己的主页（如果发邮件广告是为了宣传主页）的访问量上升幅度来确定。 2.2从邮件广告的反馈信息的热烈程度来判断。 2.3从邮件广告对生意促进的上升幅度等来判断。 2.4设置"校验信箱"，程序中设置"每发999封信，同时往校验信箱中发1封信"。 3.委托我们代发广告邮件的手续 3.1 请来电，签订协议。 3.2 按照协议，给我们足额汇款，或者银行汇款。 3.3 请将邮局汇款收据，银行汇款回单，传真给我们。 3.4 注意检查邮件广告发送后的反馈。 4 为什么不自己发，而让我们来代你发？ 4.1 因为，我有 24 小时免费上网的便利，因为，我的电脑是 1G 内存的大型服务器，因为，我用的是 DDN 专线上网的速度，因为，我只需在下班的时候轻轻点一下鼠标...... 下面我们一起算一算自己发广告邮件和我们为您效劳代发的费用支出情况： 现在，大部分的网友应该都是在用56K的MODEM拨号上网，但是，如果用ISND（一线通）上网的话还能够便宜点，因为ISDN的速度是56K的MODEM的 4 倍左右，现在我们按照ISDN上网来计算： 用ISND线路上网，两个信道全部开通（2B），在PIII-550-128M的电脑上测试，使用Diffondi coll V3.1.6.1 群发邮件软件，设置传输 BCC 安全-高速为 size 1（这是采用抄送功能实现的发送方式，如果一次抄送100封当然最快，但是如果发送服务器SMTP不支持的话，其实真正发送出去的却只是1封），同时连接30个SMTP（全部有效），最大错误数为 30，发35751封信（每封2000字）需要时间是9小时48分钟（即588分钟），那么计算得出每分钟大约 60 封（别相信网上一些人说的一分钟发２万封的话，那是指在DDN专线，带宽4M，月租3万、WINDOWS NT大型服务器上）。 35751（封信）÷ 588（分钟）= 60（封/分钟） 那么按ISDN上网费为：网络费每小时4元（半价为2元），加电话费（2B）每小时0.09X(60÷3)X2=3.6元；总共是每小时7.6元（半价时为5.6元）。从上面得出的发送速度为每分钟 60 封，我们可以计算出发送100万封广告信（2000字）需要163374分钟，合算2723小时，即需要上网费用为7.6 X 2723=20694.8元（半价时为5.6 X 2723=15248.8元）。这当中当然还未包括购买100万电子邮件地址、群发软件、筛选软件、校验软件的费用，和搜索SMTP发信服务器地址、28小时200W电力消耗的电费、人工、电脑折旧等等。 假设现在你需要发送100万封广告信，很显然，如果这100万封的广告信由你来发，即使你全部在夜间半价时发送，你也至少需要支出 5.6 X 2723=15248.8元元；（全价为7.6 X 2723=20694.8元）。 自己发，需要 ２ 万多元，我为你发只需 5000×40％＝2000 元，请你作出明智的选择的！ 马上给我们写信 电话: 0086-10-62988488， 62978488 (Fax) 呼机: 全国联网 198-10033237 Email: soven@263.net.cn 网站：http://www.soven.com 邮局汇款地址： (100085）中国北京上地东7区3楼4-502室 北京索文网络营销服务中心 潘景华 收 一卡通划款方式: 招商银行 一卡通: 潘景华 0010-03344994 银行汇款地址： 收款人：北京索文翻译有限公司 开户银行：北京市海淀区上地信用分社 帐号：0407040103-302 联系业务：Email: soven@263.net.cn 网站：http://www.soven.com 假如给您带来不便，请回复: email02@btamail.net.cn 我们帮您删除 ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =CB=F7=CE=C4=CD=F8=D5=BE Soven Website =20 =20
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=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 3:26:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C83D37B417; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 165mZP-0006G7-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:26:35 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165mYo-000H0G-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:25:58 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:25:58 +0000 From: setantae To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Message-ID: <20011119112558.GA65070@rhadamanth> Mail-Followup-To: setantae , "Gary W. Swearingen" , FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 09:34:29PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Ceri writes: > > > >Description: > > true.1 states that the appropriate return status from true is "false". > > Which is clearly not the case. > > But it doesn't say that. It says it returns zero, which is correct. Well, it does; it says ``the appropriate status "false"'', which says to me that the appropriate return status from true is "false". But I don't really want to argue about that, as it's not the real point. > > ! It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running > > (or failing to run) a list of commands. > > The "It" here is confusingly referring to a Bourne shell script that > it confusingly brings into the description. Yeah, I didn't really understand that part at all, so I kind of skirted round it. Now that I've got a second opinion which is agreeable, how about this patch instead ? diff -rc src/usr.bin.old/false/false.1 src/usr.bin/false/false.1 *** src/usr.bin.old/false/false.1 Mon Nov 19 11:08:41 2001 --- src/usr.bin/false/false.1 Mon Nov 19 11:17:21 2001 *************** *** 46,62 **** .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command is usually used in a Bourne shell script. ! It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running ! (or failing to run) a list of commands. ! .Pp ! The ! .Nm ! utility always exits with a value other than zero. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr sh 1 , .Xr true 1 .Sh STANDARDS The .Nm --- 46,60 ---- .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command does nothing but exit with a non-zero status. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr sh 1 , .Xr true 1 + .Sh DIAGNOSTICS + The + .Nm + utility always returns with exit code one. .Sh STANDARDS The .Nm diff -rc src/usr.bin.old/true/true.1 src/usr.bin/true/true.1 *** src/usr.bin.old/true/true.1 Sun Nov 18 20:08:15 2001 --- src/usr.bin/true/true.1 Mon Nov 19 11:18:11 2001 *************** *** 46,54 **** .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command is normally used in a Bourne shell script. ! It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running ! (or failing to run) a list of commands. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr false 1 , --- 46,52 ---- .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command does nothing but return a true status code. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr false 1 , To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 3:30: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F0537B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJBU2549797; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111191130.fAJBU2549797@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: setantae Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Reply-To: setantae Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32082; it has been noted by GNATS. From: setantae To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:25:58 +0000 On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 09:34:29PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Ceri writes: > > > >Description: > > true.1 states that the appropriate return status from true is "false". > > Which is clearly not the case. > > But it doesn't say that. It says it returns zero, which is correct. Well, it does; it says ``the appropriate status "false"'', which says to me that the appropriate return status from true is "false". But I don't really want to argue about that, as it's not the real point. > > ! It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running > > (or failing to run) a list of commands. > > The "It" here is confusingly referring to a Bourne shell script that > it confusingly brings into the description. Yeah, I didn't really understand that part at all, so I kind of skirted round it. Now that I've got a second opinion which is agreeable, how about this patch instead ? diff -rc src/usr.bin.old/false/false.1 src/usr.bin/false/false.1 *** src/usr.bin.old/false/false.1 Mon Nov 19 11:08:41 2001 --- src/usr.bin/false/false.1 Mon Nov 19 11:17:21 2001 *************** *** 46,62 **** .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command is usually used in a Bourne shell script. ! It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running ! (or failing to run) a list of commands. ! .Pp ! The ! .Nm ! utility always exits with a value other than zero. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr sh 1 , .Xr true 1 .Sh STANDARDS The .Nm --- 46,60 ---- .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command does nothing but exit with a non-zero status. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr sh 1 , .Xr true 1 + .Sh DIAGNOSTICS + The + .Nm + utility always returns with exit code one. .Sh STANDARDS The .Nm diff -rc src/usr.bin.old/true/true.1 src/usr.bin/true/true.1 *** src/usr.bin.old/true/true.1 Sun Nov 18 20:08:15 2001 --- src/usr.bin/true/true.1 Mon Nov 19 11:18:11 2001 *************** *** 46,54 **** .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command is normally used in a Bourne shell script. ! It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running ! (or failing to run) a list of commands. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr false 1 , --- 46,52 ---- .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command does nothing but return a true status code. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr false 1 , To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 4:42:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3BA37B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:42:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ark.cris.net (ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12162; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:41:04 +0200 (EET) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fAJCeTX19001; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:40:29 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:40:29 +0200 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Martin Horcicka Cc: Hiroki Sato , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, saken@hotel.rmta.org Subject: Re: Why TIDY can never work correctly with ISO-8859-2 and others Message-ID: <20011119144029.A17854@ark.cris.net> References: <20011115215244.A7285@ark.cris.net> <20011119104031.B88374-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20011119104031.B88374-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz>; from horcicka@FreeBSD.cz on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:45:08AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:45:08AM +0100, Martin Horcicka wrote: > > Attached patch does a job. At least my simple tests were passed successfully. > > I just added new option '-preserve' to tidy. This option disables > > translation of characters entities to characters before processing. > > As "side effect" we have all entities saved correctly in output file. > > > > I would like to have feedback on this one. At least for Russian Doc Project > > it should do a good job and I'd like to see it commited. > > Great! And could it be possible to add another option to turn off the > interpretation of .tidyrc in home directory? There's no simple way to turn off .tidyrc because it's unconditionally preloaded before processing any command line option. As simple workaround to get rid of "Can't open '/home//.tidyrc'" message I just added check to existence of ~/.tidyrc and supress file open error output in case of missing ~/.tidyrc. Patch attached. Comments ? diff -u work/tidy4aug00/config.c work.0/tidy4aug00/config.c --- work/tidy4aug00/config.c Fri Aug 4 19:21:05 2000 +++ work.0/tidy4aug00/config.c Mon Nov 19 14:42:14 2001 @@ -94,6 +94,7 @@ Bool TidyMark = yes; /* add meta element indicating tidied doc */ Bool Emacs = no; /* if true format error output for GNU Emacs */ Bool LiteralAttribs = no; /* if true attributes may use newlines */ +Bool PreserveEntities = no; /* if true don't convert entities to chars */ typedef struct _lex PLex; @@ -186,6 +187,7 @@ {"doctype", {(int *)&doctype_str}, ParseDocType}, {"fix-backslash", {(int *)&FixBackslash}, ParseBool}, {"gnu-emacs", {(int *)&Emacs}, ParseBool}, + {"preserve-entities", {(int *)&PreserveEntities}, ParseBool}, /* this must be the final entry */ {0, 0, 0} @@ -423,7 +425,10 @@ /* open the file and parse its contents */ if ((fin = fopen(fname, "r")) == null) - FileError(stderr, fname); + { + if (FileExists(fname)) /* quiet file open error on */ + FileError(stderr, fname); /* non-existent file */ + } else { config_text = null; @@ -533,6 +538,12 @@ { QuoteAmpersand = yes; HideEndTags = no; + } + + /* Avoid &copy; in preserve-entities case */ + if (PreserveEntities) + { + QuoteAmpersand = no; } } diff -u work/tidy4aug00/html.h work.0/tidy4aug00/html.h --- work/tidy4aug00/html.h Fri Aug 4 19:21:05 2000 +++ work.0/tidy4aug00/html.h Mon Nov 19 14:36:54 2001 @@ -380,6 +380,7 @@ void FatalError(char *msg); void FileError(FILE *fp, const char *file); +int FileExists(const char *file); Node *GetToken(Lexer *lexer, uint mode); @@ -758,6 +759,7 @@ extern Bool Word2000; extern Bool Emacs; /* sasdjb 01May00 GNU Emacs error output format */ extern Bool LiteralAttribs; +extern Bool PreserveEntities; /* Parser methods for tags */ diff -u work/tidy4aug00/lexer.c work.0/tidy4aug00/lexer.c --- work/tidy4aug00/lexer.c Fri Aug 4 19:21:05 2000 +++ work.0/tidy4aug00/lexer.c Thu Nov 15 21:44:03 2001 @@ -1517,8 +1517,10 @@ continue; } - else if (c == '&' && mode != IgnoreMarkup) - ParseEntity(lexer, mode); + else if (c == '&' && mode != IgnoreMarkup + && !PreserveEntities) { + ParseEntity(lexer, mode); + } /* this is needed to avoid trimming trailing whitespace */ if (mode == IgnoreWhitespace) @@ -2624,7 +2626,7 @@ seen_gt = yes; } - if (c == '&') + if (c == '&') /* XXX: possibly need support for PreserveEntities */ { AddCharToLexer(lexer, c); ParseEntity(lexer, null); diff -u work/tidy4aug00/localize.c work.0/tidy4aug00/localize.c --- work/tidy4aug00/localize.c Fri Aug 4 19:21:05 2000 +++ work.0/tidy4aug00/localize.c Mon Nov 19 14:39:38 2001 @@ -8,6 +8,9 @@ to localize HTML tidy. */ +#include +#include + #include "platform.h" #include "html.h" @@ -50,6 +53,16 @@ tidy_out(fp, "Can't open \"%s\"\n", file); } +int FileExists(const char *file) +{ + struct stat st; + + if (stat(file, &st) < 0) + return (0); + else + return (1); +} + static void ReportTag(Lexer *lexer, Node *tag) { if (tag) @@ -736,6 +749,7 @@ tidy_out(out, " -xml use this when input is wellformed xml\n"); tidy_out(out, " -asxml to convert html to wellformed xml\n"); tidy_out(out, " -slides to burst into slides on h2 elements\n"); + tidy_out(out, " -preserve to preserve entities as is in source file\n"); tidy_out(out, "\n"); tidy_out(out, "Character encodings\n"); diff -u work/tidy4aug00/man_page.txt work.0/tidy4aug00/man_page.txt --- work/tidy4aug00/man_page.txt Fri Aug 4 19:21:05 2000 +++ work.0/tidy4aug00/man_page.txt Thu Nov 15 21:54:05 2001 @@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ .IR column ] .RB [ -upper ] .RB [ -clean ] +.RB [ -preserve ] .RB [ -raw | .B -ascii @@ -106,6 +107,9 @@ .TP .B -slides Burst into slides on

elements. +.TP +.B -preserve +Preserve source file entities as is. .TP .BR -help ", " -h List command-line options. diff -u work/tidy4aug00/tidy.c work.0/tidy4aug00/tidy.c --- work/tidy4aug00/tidy.c Fri Aug 4 19:21:05 2000 +++ work.0/tidy4aug00/tidy.c Mon Nov 19 14:39:50 2001 @@ -785,6 +785,8 @@ Quiet = yes; else if (strcmp(arg, "slides") == 0) BurstSlides = yes; + else if (strcmp(arg, "preserve") == 0) + PreserveEntities = yes; else if (strcmp(arg, "help") == 0 || argv[1][1] == '?'|| argv[1][1] == 'h') { To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 4:44:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EA937B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:44:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ark.cris.net (ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12463; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:42:53 +0200 (EET) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fAJCgMB19284; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:42:22 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:42:22 +0200 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Hiroki Sato Cc: horcicka@FreeBSD.cz, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, saken@hotel.rmta.org Subject: Re: Why TIDY can never work correctly with ISO-8859-2 and others Message-ID: <20011119144222.B17854@ark.cris.net> References: <20011115.214017.71143189.hrs@sekine00.ee.noda.sut.ac.jp> <20011115160532.A61351@ark.cris.net> <20011115215244.A7285@ark.cris.net> <20011118.030513.130244227.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20011118.030513.130244227.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp>; from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 03:05:13AM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 03:05:13AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > phantom> Attached patch does a job. At least my simple tests were passed successfully. > phantom> I just added new option '-preserve' to tidy. This option disables > phantom> translation of characters entities to characters before processing. > phantom> As "side effect" we have all entities saved correctly in output file. > phantom> > phantom> I would like to have feedback on this one. At least for Russian Doc Project > phantom> it should do a good job and I'd like to see it commited. > > I tried it with the "-raw", "-preserve", "-i", "-m" and "-f /dev/null" > for Japanese docs, and it seems to do a good job totally. > Thank you for your effort. Cool! It was only thing that woried me -- Eastern Languages... > To solve tidy-related problems among the translation teams, > I also would like to commit the patch into www/tidy if possible. I would like to get tidy maintainer review before commiting these patches. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 4:45:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07B237B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:45:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a209.otenet.gr [212.205.215.209]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAJCj8J02021; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:45:08 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJBlpr27976; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:47:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:47:51 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Martin Horcicka Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Entitity references in XML/XSL files Message-ID: <20011119114751.GA24027@hades.hell.gr> References: <20011119104516.D88374-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011119104516.D88374-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-11-19 10:49:56, Martin Horcicka wrote: > Hi, > > is there any way how to get a general entity reference (e.g.  ) into HTML > pages generated from XML/XSL? I'm not sure if that's what you want, but you can get ` ' in the output, by using: &nbsp; -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 5:36:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (www.freebsd.cz [195.113.19.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F24C37B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 05:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (horcicka@localhost) by dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAJDaak97507; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:36:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from horcicka@FreeBSD.cz) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:36:36 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Horcicka X-X-Sender: To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Subject: Re: Entitity references in XML/XSL files In-Reply-To: <20011119114751.GA24027@hades.hell.gr> Message-ID: <20011119143219.U97142-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Giorgos Keramidas (2001-11-19 13:47 +0200): > On 2001-11-19 10:49:56, Martin Horcicka wrote: > > Hi, > > > > is there any way how to get a general entity reference (e.g.  ) into HTML > > pages generated from XML/XSL? > > I'm not sure if that's what you want, but you can get ` ' in the > output, by using: > > &nbsp; That's exactly what I want but when I wrote &nbsp; into (e.g.)

element (child of ) in the news/press.xml - the result in the html page is the same - &nbsp;. Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 5:42: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (www.freebsd.cz [195.113.19.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085C737B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 05:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (horcicka@localhost) by dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAJDg5k97589; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:42:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from horcicka@FreeBSD.cz) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:42:05 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Horcicka X-X-Sender: To: Andrew McKay Cc: Subject: Re: Why TIDY can never work correctly with ISO-8859-2 and others In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011119143651.D97142-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew McKay (2001-11-19 13:11 -0000): > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Martin Horcicka wrote: > > MH> Great! And could it be possible to add another option to turn off the > MH> interpretation of .tidyrc in home directory? > > touch ~/.tidyrc The problem is that the user building the pages can have his own settings in his .tidyrc file which are not suitable for our pages. Alexey has said that there's no painless way to change it. Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 6:10: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1C137B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJEA2m91062; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111191410.fAJEA2m91062@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32082; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: setantae Cc: "Gary W. Swearingen" , FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:05:53 +0200 On 2001-11-19 11:25:58, setantae wrote: > diff -rc src/usr.bin.old/false/false.1 src/usr.bin/false/false.1 > ... > --- 46,60 ---- > .Sh DESCRIPTION > The > .Nm > ! command does nothing but exit with a non-zero status. > .Sh SEE ALSO > .Xr csh 1 , > .Xr sh 1 , > .Xr true 1 > + .Sh DIAGNOSTICS > + The > + .Nm > + utility always returns with exit code one. It's either `non-zero' or `one'. Not both. This certainly looks a lot better than the current manpage though :) -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 6:22:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED5737B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:22:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJEMYl94535 for freebsd-doc; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:22:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from www) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:22:34 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111191422.fAJEMYl94535@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ===> cgi ===> ../ja /c/www/build/www/ja/../ja/prehtml -revcheck "." "" applications.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja > applications.html || (/bin/rm -f applications.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/../ja/prehtml -revcheck "." "" auditors.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja > auditors.html || (/bin/rm -f auditors.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/../ja/prehtml -revcheck "." "" availability.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja > availability.html || (/bin/rm -f availability.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/../ja/prehtml -revcheck "." "" docs.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja > docs.html || (/bin/rm -f docs.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/../ja/prehtml -revcheck "." "" features.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja > features.html || (/bin/rm -f features.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/../ja/prehtml -revcheck "." "" register.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja > register.html || (/bin/rm -f register.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/../ja/prehtml -revcheck "." "" internet.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja > internet.html || (/bin/rm -f internet.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/../ja/prehtml -revcheck "." "" mailto.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja > mailto.html || (/bin/rm -f mailto.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/../ja/prehtml -revcheck "." "" publish.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja > publish.html || (/bin/rm -f publish.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/../ja/prehtml -revcheck "." "" send-pr.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja > send-pr.html || (/bin/rm -f send-pr.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/../ja/prehtml -revcheck "." "" support.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja > support.html || (/bin/rm -f support.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/../ja/prehtml -revcheck "." "" where.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja > where.html || (/bin/rm -f where.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/../ja/prehtml -revcheck "." "" y2kbug.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja > y2kbug.html || (/bin/rm -f y2kbug.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/../ja/prehtml -revcheck "." "" jabout.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja > jabout.html || (/bin/rm -f jabout.html && false) /usr/local/bin/xsltproc -nonet -o index.html /c/www/build/www/ja/index.xsl /c/www/build/www/ja/news/news.xml ===> ../ja/security /c/www/build/www/ja/security/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "security" security.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/security > security.html || (/bin/rm -f security.html && false) ===> ../ja/commercial /c/www/build/www/ja/commercial/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "commercial" commercial.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/commercial > commercial.html || (/bin/rm -f commercial.html && false) ===> ../ja/docproj /c/www/build/www/ja/docproj/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "docproj" current.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/docproj > current.html || (/bin/rm -f current.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/docproj/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "docproj" doc-set.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/docproj > doc-set.html || (/bin/rm -f doc-set.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/docproj/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "docproj" sgml.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/docproj > sgml.html || (/bin/rm -f sgml.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/docproj/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "docproj" submitting.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/docproj > submitting.html || (/bin/rm -f submitting.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/docproj/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "docproj" who.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/docproj > who.html || (/bin/rm -f who.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/docproj/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "docproj" translations.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/docproj > translations.html || (/bin/rm -f translations.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/docproj/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "docproj" docproj.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/docproj > docproj.html || (/bin/rm -f docproj.html && false) ===> ../ja/news /c/www/build/www/ja/news/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "news" news.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/news > news.html || (/bin/rm -f news.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/news/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "news" pressreleases.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/news > pressreleases.html || (/bin/rm -f pressreleases.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/news/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "news" press-rel-1.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/news > press-rel-1.html || (/bin/rm -f press-rel-1.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/news/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "news" press-rel-2.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/news > press-rel-2.html || (/bin/rm -f press-rel-2.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/news/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "news" press-rel-3.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/news > press-rel-3.html || (/bin/rm -f press-rel-3.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/news/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "news" press-rel-4.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/news > press-rel-4.html || (/bin/rm -f press-rel-4.html && false) /c/www/build/www/ja/news/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "news" press-rel-5.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/news > press-rel-5.html || (/bin/rm -f press-rel-5.html && false) xsltproc -nonet -o newsflash.html newsflash.xsl news.xml xsltproc:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/ja/news. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/ja. *** Error code 1 (ignored) *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en. 3400.70 real 1319.99 user 40.12 sys To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 6:50:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AB637B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:50:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0024.cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.178.146.24] helo=netcom1.netcom.com) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165pkd-0000XU-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:50:24 -0500 Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D0CB713317; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:50:19 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Harding To: clefevre@citeweb.net Cc: andy@openirc.co.uk, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <200111181809.fAII9jY83271@gits.dyndns.org> (message from Cyrille Lefevre on Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:09:45 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: empty index.html in /usr/www? References: <200111181809.fAII9jY83271@gits.dyndns.org> Message-Id: <20011119145019.D0CB713317@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:50:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I set my repo date back to 11-10-2001, rebuilt libxml2 and libxslt, and the index file is generated correctly, or at least bigger than 1 byte. It now dies in the 'prstats' section though. I suspect libxslt... - Mike H. Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:09:45 +0100 (CET) Cc: Mike Harding , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-SpamBouncer: 1.4 (8/24/01) X-SBNote: From Admin X-SBNote: FROM_DAEMON/Listserv X-SBClass: Admin Andrew McKay wrote: > On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Mike Harding wrote: > > MH> I have been building the freebsd web site locally for a while - right > MH> now the main index.html is empty. The makefile is outputting the > MH> file, but the result is empty... 0 bytes. > > I'm getting the same here too. I tried the .profile fixing that Cyrille > suggested but, aiui, that would have nothing to do with the building of > index.html anyway. I'm using a local repo, synced 6 hourly, and this I think so, but who says ;^) ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 6:53:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018E537B419; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:53:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 165pnf-0001tE-01; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:53:31 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165pk5-000HSn-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:49:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:49:49 +0000 From: setantae To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Message-ID: <20011119144949.GA67043@rhadamanth> Mail-Followup-To: setantae , Giorgos Keramidas , doc@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011119112558.GA65070@rhadamanth> <20011119140553.GA1408@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011119140553.GA1408@hades.hell.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:05:53PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > It's either `non-zero' or `one'. Not both. True. While the version of true(1) that we are shipping will always exit with a status of 1, I'm not sure that's portable. I tried to check to see if POSIX guarantees `one', or just `non-zero', but it would appear that you have to be a member to look at the standard ?? If anyone has access to the standard could they take a look and let me know so I can amend the patch accordingly ? Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 7: 0: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5029537B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJF04X09151; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:00:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:00:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111191500.fAJF04X09151@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: setantae Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Reply-To: setantae Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32082; it has been noted by GNATS. From: setantae To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:49:49 +0000 On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:05:53PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > It's either `non-zero' or `one'. Not both. True. While the version of true(1) that we are shipping will always exit with a status of 1, I'm not sure that's portable. I tried to check to see if POSIX guarantees `one', or just `non-zero', but it would appear that you have to be a member to look at the standard ?? If anyone has access to the standard could they take a look and let me know so I can amend the patch accordingly ? Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 7:10:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD8637B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 356EB4B65D; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:10:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:10:16 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Mike Harding Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: empty index.html in /usr/www? Message-ID: <20011119071016.R27929@windriver.com> References: <200111181809.fAII9jY83271@gits.dyndns.org> <20011119145019.D0CB713317@netcom1.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dWYAkE0V1FpFQHQ3" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011119145019.D0CB713317@netcom1.netcom.com>; from mvh@ix.netcom.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 06:50:19AM -0800 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --dWYAkE0V1FpFQHQ3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 06:50:19AM -0800, Mike Harding wrote: > I set my repo date back to 11-10-2001, rebuilt libxml2 and libxslt, > and the index file is generated correctly, or at least bigger than 1 > byte. It now dies in the 'prstats' section though. I suspect > libxslt... The prstats is new stuff I've recently committed which depends on Tcl and gnuplot to build nice pretty graphs of open PRs vs time. This probably isn't related to your other problems as nothing in the prstats directory uses XSLT. You can skip the prstats stuff by building with NO_PRSTATS=1. If you have those programs installed and it is still failing somehow, then please post the output. Thanks, - Murray --dWYAkE0V1FpFQHQ3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+SDXtNcQog5FH30RArUrAKCzfcs6idii6cNz9smsKJSucSQCTgCgqSQR OLqHHxHwD7KIadGwLNZje28= =Fj5X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dWYAkE0V1FpFQHQ3-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 7:18:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D5937B419; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:18:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0182.cvx38-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.30.182] helo=netcom1.netcom.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165qBb-0007nO-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:18:16 -0500 Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E1C9D1358F; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:17:33 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Harding To: murray@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <20011119071016.R27929@windriver.com> (message from Murray Stokely on Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:10:16 -0800) Subject: Re: empty index.html in /usr/www? References: <200111181809.fAII9jY83271@gits.dyndns.org> <20011119145019.D0CB713317@netcom1.netcom.com> <20011119071016.R27929@windriver.com> Message-Id: <20011119151733.E1C9D1358F@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:17:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The failure looks like this, it's almost certainly because I have no gnats files. :) - Mike H. ===> en/prstats /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' index.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /usr/www/en/prstats > index.html || (/bin/rm -f index.html && false) ===> en/prstats/../../tools/prstats ./go.tcl /c/gnats no files matched glob pattern "/c/gnats/*/[1-9]*" while executing "glob $gnatsdir" invoked from within "foreach pr [glob $gnatsdir] { PR $pr } " (file "./go.tcl" line 45) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/www/tools/prstats. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/www/en/prstats. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/www/en. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/www. netcom1# Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:10:16 -0800 From: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Disposition: inline X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D X-SpamBouncer: 1.4 (8/24/01) X-SBClass: OK --dWYAkE0V1FpFQHQ3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 06:50:19AM -0800, Mike Harding wrote: > I set my repo date back to 11-10-2001, rebuilt libxml2 and libxslt, > and the index file is generated correctly, or at least bigger than 1 > byte. It now dies in the 'prstats' section though. I suspect > libxslt... The prstats is new stuff I've recently committed which depends on Tcl and gnuplot to build nice pretty graphs of open PRs vs time. This probably isn't related to your other problems as nothing in the prstats directory uses XSLT. You can skip the prstats stuff by building with NO_PRSTATS=1. If you have those programs installed and it is still failing somehow, then please post the output. Thanks, - Murray --dWYAkE0V1FpFQHQ3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+SDXtNcQog5FH30RArUrAKCzfcs6idii6cNz9smsKJSucSQCTgCgqSQR OLqHHxHwD7KIadGwLNZje28= =Fj5X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dWYAkE0V1FpFQHQ3-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 7:19:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail-2.zoominternet.net (mail-2.zoominternet.net [63.67.120.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5FBDD37B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:19:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24808 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2001 15:19:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO oemcomputer) ([208.236.36.234]) (envelope-sender ) by mail-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Nov 2001 15:19:56 -0000 From: darklogik@zoominternet.net To: davide+receptionist@cs.cmu.edu Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:22:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: CompUSA? Cc: doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3BF8DD73.9947.38C5F9EA@localhost> In-reply-to: <20633.1006144329@piper.nectar.cs.cmu.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have seen FreeBSD Boxed sets located in the software section at the Staples, though I don't know if 'every' staples has it. You may wish to give them a call or visit the staples website. Enjoy Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 7:20:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A1437B41B; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ark.cris.net (ns2.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA39330; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:20:40 +0200 (EET) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fAJFKAh41364; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:20:10 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:20:10 +0200 From: Alexey Zelkin To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20011119172010.A41144@ark.cris.net> References: <200111191422.fAJEMYl94535@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200111191422.fAJEMYl94535@freefall.freebsd.org>; from www@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 06:22:34AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, I think ja/news/Makefile just need to be synchronized with latest version of respective english Makefile. This also should unbreak "make install" in "make obj" mode (at least it was broken exactly at that point week ago) On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 06:22:34AM -0800, www@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > /c/www/build/www/ja/news/../../ja/prehtml -revcheck ".." "news" press-rel-5.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/ja/news > press-rel-5.html || (/bin/rm -f press-rel-5.html && false) > xsltproc -nonet -o newsflash.html newsflash.xsl news.xml > xsltproc:No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /c/www/build/www/ja/news. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /c/www/build/www/ja. > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /c/www/build/www/en. > 3400.70 real 1319.99 user 40.12 sys > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 7:24:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6848A37B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ark.cris.net (ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA39884; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:24:40 +0200 (EET) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fAJFO9J41969; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:24:09 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:24:09 +0200 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Martin Horcicka Cc: Andrew McKay , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why TIDY can never work correctly with ISO-8859-2 and others Message-ID: <20011119172409.B41144@ark.cris.net> References: <20011119143651.D97142-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20011119143651.D97142-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz>; from horcicka@FreeBSD.cz on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:42:05PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:42:05PM +0100, Martin Horcicka wrote: > > MH> Great! And could it be possible to add another option to turn off the > > MH> interpretation of .tidyrc in home directory? > > > > touch ~/.tidyrc > > The problem is that the user building the pages can have his own settings in > his .tidyrc file which are not suitable for our pages. Alexey has said that > there's no painless way to change it. Except stoping to show useless warning message. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 7:43:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DEB37B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJFhHR04892; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:43:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:43:17 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111191543.fAJFhHR04892@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, peter@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/31210: cvs info page missing -R Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: cvs info page missing -R Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->peter Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Nov 19 07:42:17 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Peter is the cvs(1) meister^Wmaintainer. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31210 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 7:44:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [210.190.142.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D210D37B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:44:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hrslab.yi.org (p2192-ip02funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [61.112.100.192]) by eos.ocn.ne.jp (OCN) with ESMTP id AAA17117; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:44:41 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.hrslab.yi.org [192.168.0.10]) by mail.hrslab.yi.org (8.9.3/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id AAA50348; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:44:13 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:43:11 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20011120.004311.41634366.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: phantom@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20011119172010.A41144@ark.cris.net> References: <200111191422.fAJEMYl94535@freefall.freebsd.org> <20011119172010.A41144@ark.cris.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexey Zelkin wrote in <20011119172010.A41144@ark.cris.net>: phantom> I think ja/news/Makefile just need to be synchronized phantom> with latest version of respective english Makefile. This also should phantom> unbreak "make install" in "make obj" mode (at least it was broken exactly phantom> at that point week ago) Oh, sorry, I've just committed the changes needed. -- | Hiroki Sato | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 9:16:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1879A37B418; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:16:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 165s2K-0004S8-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:16:48 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165s26-000HtJ-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:16:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:16:34 +0000 From: setantae To: charon@labs.gr Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Message-ID: <20011119171634.GC68651@rhadamanth> Mail-Followup-To: setantae , charon@labs.gr, doc@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200111191500.fAJF04X09151@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200111191500.fAJF04X09151@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:00:04AM -0800, setantae wrote: > > True. While the version of true(1) that we are shipping will always > exit with a status of 1, I'm not sure that's portable. > I tried to check to see if POSIX guarantees `one', or just `non-zero', > but it would appear that you have to be a member to look at the > standard ?? I've been furnished with a copy of the standard for false(1), and the outcome is that it just needs to be non-zero. Therefore, I suggest we use this patch : diff -rc src/usr.bin.old/false/false.1 src/usr.bin/false/false.1 *** src/usr.bin.old/false/false.1 Mon Nov 19 11:08:41 2001 --- src/usr.bin/false/false.1 Mon Nov 19 11:17:21 2001 *************** *** 46,62 **** .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command is usually used in a Bourne shell script. ! It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running ! (or failing to run) a list of commands. ! .Pp ! The ! .Nm ! utility always exits with a value other than zero. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr sh 1 , .Xr true 1 .Sh STANDARDS The .Nm --- 46,60 ---- .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command does nothing but exit with a non-zero status. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr sh 1 , .Xr true 1 + .Sh DIAGNOSTICS + The + .Nm + utility always returns with a non-zero exit code. .Sh STANDARDS The .Nm diff -rc src/usr.bin.old/true/true.1 src/usr.bin/true/true.1 *** src/usr.bin.old/true/true.1 Sun Nov 18 20:08:15 2001 --- src/usr.bin/true/true.1 Mon Nov 19 11:18:11 2001 *************** *** 46,54 **** .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command is normally used in a Bourne shell script. ! It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running ! (or failing to run) a list of commands. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr false 1 , --- 46,52 ---- .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command does nothing but exit with a status code of zero. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr false 1 , To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 9:20: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0932E37B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:20:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJHK2U44929; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:20:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111191720.fAJHK2U44929@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: setantae Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Reply-To: setantae Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32082; it has been noted by GNATS. From: setantae To: charon@labs.gr Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:16:34 +0000 On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:00:04AM -0800, setantae wrote: > > True. While the version of true(1) that we are shipping will always > exit with a status of 1, I'm not sure that's portable. > I tried to check to see if POSIX guarantees `one', or just `non-zero', > but it would appear that you have to be a member to look at the > standard ?? I've been furnished with a copy of the standard for false(1), and the outcome is that it just needs to be non-zero. Therefore, I suggest we use this patch : diff -rc src/usr.bin.old/false/false.1 src/usr.bin/false/false.1 *** src/usr.bin.old/false/false.1 Mon Nov 19 11:08:41 2001 --- src/usr.bin/false/false.1 Mon Nov 19 11:17:21 2001 *************** *** 46,62 **** .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command is usually used in a Bourne shell script. ! It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running ! (or failing to run) a list of commands. ! .Pp ! The ! .Nm ! utility always exits with a value other than zero. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr sh 1 , .Xr true 1 .Sh STANDARDS The .Nm --- 46,60 ---- .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command does nothing but exit with a non-zero status. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr sh 1 , .Xr true 1 + .Sh DIAGNOSTICS + The + .Nm + utility always returns with a non-zero exit code. .Sh STANDARDS The .Nm diff -rc src/usr.bin.old/true/true.1 src/usr.bin/true/true.1 *** src/usr.bin.old/true/true.1 Sun Nov 18 20:08:15 2001 --- src/usr.bin/true/true.1 Mon Nov 19 11:18:11 2001 *************** *** 46,54 **** .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command is normally used in a Bourne shell script. ! It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running ! (or failing to run) a list of commands. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr false 1 , --- 46,52 ---- .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm ! command does nothing but exit with a status code of zero. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr false 1 , To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 10:30: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E960337B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJIU0t57044; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:30:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0217937B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJISTK93066; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:28:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111191828.fAJISTK93066@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:28:29 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/32109: pedantic ports handbook correction Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32109 >Category: docs >Synopsis: pedantic ports handbook correction >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Nov 19 10:30:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: today's -doc tree >Description: A port is not the minimal set of files to compile a program. The minimal set of files needed to compile a program includes the source code. It's a minimal set of files that tells your system how to compile that source code. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml-dist Mon Nov 19 13:21:05 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml Mon Nov 19 13:21:54 2001 *************** *** 565,572 **** The first thing that should be explained when it comes to the ports collection is what is actually meant by a skeleton. In a nutshell, a port skeleton is a ! minimal set of files that are needed for a program to compile and ! install cleanly on FreeBSD. Each port skeleton includes: --- 565,572 ---- The first thing that should be explained when it comes to the ports collection is what is actually meant by a skeleton. In a nutshell, a port skeleton is a ! minimal set of files that tell your FreeBSD system how to ! cleanly compile and install a program. Each port skeleton includes: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 10:37:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91ED137B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:37:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJIbvc93158 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:37:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:37:57 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Handbook port section 4.5.2.1 Message-ID: <20011119133757.A93141@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This section of the Handbook discusses building ports using a distfile pulled from a FreeBSD CDROM. I believe that we no longer ship distfiles on the CDROMs, so this entire section is now pointless. I'm happy to submit a patch to axe it and clean up the associated text, but wanted to check and see if anyone had a better idea first. Cutting a section out seems a bit drastic... -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 11: 0:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C626C37B41B for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJJ02a61073; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D65337B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:57:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJIvtr93375; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:57:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111191857.fAJIvtr93375@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:57:55 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/32111: cleanup on deinstalling ports section Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32111 >Category: docs >Synopsis: cleanup on deinstalling ports section >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Nov 19 11:00:02 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: today's -doc tree >Description: Bunch of stupid little things. 1) "The next few paragraphs will cover just that." No, really? I thought that this section was titled "Removing Installed Ports" because it discussed the Project's attempts to crossbreed elephants and kangaroos. 2) Don't insult the reader's attention span twice in one paragraph. Once is entirely sufficient. (I always recommend insulting the reader about different things within a single paragraph.) 3) "managed to remove" is a bit strong. The Ports Teams makes this fairly easy, and if typing two words is "managing" to do something then logging in must be a challenge. 4) Add mention of using pkg_delete to uninstall ports after a make clean. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml-dist Mon Nov 19 13:21:05 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml Mon Nov 19 13:46:51 2001 *************** *** 832,845 **** Now that you know how to install ports, you are probably wondering how to remove them, just in case you install one and ! later on you decide that you installed the wrong port. The next ! few paragraphs will cover just that. ! ! Now we will remove our previous example (which was lsof for those of you not paying attention). As with installing ports, the first thing you must do is change to the port directory, - which if you remember was /usr/ports/irc/lsof. After you change directories, you are ready to uninstall lsof. This is done with --- 832,842 ---- Now that you know how to install ports, you are probably wondering how to remove them, just in case you install one and ! later on you decide that you installed the wrong port. ! We will remove our previous example (which was lsof for those of you not paying attention). As with installing ports, the first thing you must do is change to the port directory, /usr/ports/irc/lsof. After you change directories, you are ready to uninstall lsof. This is done with *************** *** 849,859 **** &prompt.root; make deinstall ===> Deinstalling for lsof-4.57 ! That was easy enough. You have now managed to remove lsof from your system. If you would like to reinstall it, you can do so by running make reinstall from the /usr/ports/irc/lsof directory. --- 846,863 ---- &prompt.root; make deinstall ===> Deinstalling for lsof-4.57 ! That was easy enough. You have removed lsof from your system. If you would like to reinstall it, you can do so by running make reinstall from the /usr/ports/irc/lsof directory. + + The make deinstall and make + reinstall sequence does not work once you have run + make clean. If you want to deinstall a + port after cleaning, use pkg_delete as + discussed in the Packages + section of the Handbook. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 11: 1: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A517437B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:00:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJJ0NP61168 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:00:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:00:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111191900.fAJJ0NP61168@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2001/10/14] docs/31265 doc crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allo o [2001/10/29] docs/31607 doc /etc/ppp/pap-secrets needs IP field, whic o [2001/11/02] docs/31720 doc man ftpd(8) omits potentially crucial sec o [2001/11/18] docs/32082 doc true.1 totally incorrect o [2001/11/19] docs/32101 doc [PATCH] - Resolving an issue with the 'cu 7 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/08/05] conf/20436 doc Can't make only cd0 under 4.1-STABLE o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) a [2000/09/25] docs/21542 doc sigaction(2) man page is misleading o [2000/10/26] docs/22338 doc ugen(4) man page missing s [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) a [2001/02/05] docs/24869 doc Some text elf.5 is duplicated s [2001/02/26] docs/25392 doc Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu a [2001/03/10] docs/25648 doc typos in some manpages (dependant) f [2001/03/22] docs/26003 doc getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not sy a [2001/03/22] docs/26006 doc Changing zone(9) man page o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/04/08] docs/26451 doc ctype.h defined functions are not accurat o [2001/04/25] docs/26861 doc accept(2) manpage documents non-existant o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/06/02] docs/27833 doc No man page for locate.rc o [2001/06/06] docs/27915 doc man 5 passwd does not properly explain th s [2001/06/14] docs/28144 doc no manpage for host.conf, no xrefs in oth o [2001/06/30] docs/28555 doc [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/07/22] docs/29143 doc List of man pages that need to be written o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP f [2001/08/09] docs/29571 doc [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/06] docs/30408 doc loader man page is out-of-date o [2001/09/08] docs/30442 doc remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro o [2001/09/13] docs/30556 doc vnconfig man page incorrect; functionalit o [2001/09/15] docs/30603 doc physio(9) is internally inconsistent o [2001/09/16] docs/30618 doc ediff man page incomplete o [2001/09/22] docs/30731 doc printf(1) refers to ANSI C Standard draft o [2001/09/24] docs/30809 doc fdisk(8) cleanup o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/10/09] docs/31164 doc man page for strftime is incorrect o [2001/10/14] docs/31263 doc ipfw(8) doesn't explain list versus show. a [2001/10/14] docs/31271 doc rl(4) discourages vender openness by disp o [2001/10/22] docs/31431 doc grep manpage is incorrect regarding _GNU_ o [2001/10/30] docs/31640 doc Avoiding uppercase program names in manpa o [2001/10/30] docs/31653 doc Chapter 14 of the Handbook lacks content o [2001/10/31] docs/31682 doc newfs man page still contains mount_mfs c a [2001/11/03] docs/31747 doc pthread_create.3 does not markup NULL o [2001/11/11] docs/31925 doc Be a bit more descriptive about realloc's o [2001/11/15] docs/32002 doc new FAQ: what hardware to buy o [2001/11/15] docs/32008 doc wrong path for dhclient.conf in dhclient- o [2001/11/15] docs/32011 doc no description for BSD Vault on page http o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables o [2001/11/16] docs/32041 doc Add point about net.inet.tcp.portange.{fi o [2001/11/16] docs/32042 doc kernfs.5 references files that will (prob o [2001/11/16] docs/32054 doc inconsistency between index.3 and rindex. o [2001/11/18] docs/32085 doc fortune.6 contains an error regarding -e o [2001/11/19] docs/32109 doc pedantic ports handbook correction o [2001/11/19] docs/32111 doc cleanup on deinstalling ports section 54 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 11:15: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from 217.221.252.64.snet.net (217.221.252.64.snet.net [64.252.221.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 956CB37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:14:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25678 invoked by uid 1001); 19 Nov 2001 19:14:50 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:14:50 -0500 From: Scott Kenney To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Hiroki Sato , horcicka@FreeBSD.cz, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why TIDY can never work correctly with ISO-8859-2 and others Message-ID: <20011119141450.A25669@hotel.rmta.org> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Kenney , Alexey Zelkin , Hiroki Sato , horcicka@FreeBSD.cz, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011115.214017.71143189.hrs@sekine00.ee.noda.sut.ac.jp> <20011115160532.A61351@ark.cris.net> <20011115215244.A7285@ark.cris.net> <20011118.030513.130244227.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> <20011119144222.B17854@ark.cris.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011119144222.B17854@ark.cris.net>; from phantom@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:42:22PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:42:22PM +0200, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > hi, > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 03:05:13AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > > > phantom> Attached patch does a job. At least my simple tests were passed successfully. > > phantom> I just added new option '-preserve' to tidy. This option disables > > phantom> translation of characters entities to characters before processing. > > phantom> As "side effect" we have all entities saved correctly in output file. > > phantom> > > phantom> I would like to have feedback on this one. At least for Russian Doc Project > > phantom> it should do a good job and I'd like to see it commited. > > > > I tried it with the "-raw", "-preserve", "-i", "-m" and "-f /dev/null" > > for Japanese docs, and it seems to do a good job totally. > > Thank you for your effort. > > Cool! It was only thing that woried me -- Eastern Languages... > > > To solve tidy-related problems among the translation teams, > > I also would like to commit the patch into www/tidy if possible. > > I would like to get tidy maintainer review before commiting these patches. Tidy maintainer here. Feel free to commit these patches, and I'll see what I can do about getting the tidy developers to incorporate them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 13:14:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5302B37B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:14:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1781BCA3; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08107; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:14:30 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAJLCg173482; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:12:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: setantae Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect References: <20011119112558.GA65070@rhadamanth> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 19 Nov 2001 13:12:42 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20011119112558.GA65070@rhadamanth> Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think "true" and "false" should not bother with DIAGNOSTIC sections, but if used they should match the description's terminology and sense. All of "exit code", "exit status", "status" are in common use ("exit value", less so), but in the "sh", "ksh", and "csh" man pages "exit code" is used only in "sh" and there only in two adjacent sentences. Selection of "status" or "exit status" is more context dependent and a matter of taste. (I would try to avoid using "code", even though that is more natural to me than "status" because of my personal experience.) It's debatable whether the status of "false" should be given as "one" or "non-zero". Should man pages describe the actual program or the presumed specification of the program? What specification should be presumed in this case? The shell man pages sometimes say that a command returns "one" when "non-zero" would seem to suffice. (I think man pages should describe presumed specifications, but in this case I think the specification should be that "false" should exit with status = "1".) Which brings up another issue. Is an exit status code value an integer or a string and should they be given as numerics or English words? (I guess I'd wimp out and say that people should be expected to deal with the small confusion and allow both forms but recommend English words in most contexts as demanded by standard rules of English for readability.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 13:20: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E4937B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJLK2x90278; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:20:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111192120.fAJLK2x90278@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32082; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: setantae Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Date: 19 Nov 2001 13:12:42 -0800 I think "true" and "false" should not bother with DIAGNOSTIC sections, but if used they should match the description's terminology and sense. All of "exit code", "exit status", "status" are in common use ("exit value", less so), but in the "sh", "ksh", and "csh" man pages "exit code" is used only in "sh" and there only in two adjacent sentences. Selection of "status" or "exit status" is more context dependent and a matter of taste. (I would try to avoid using "code", even though that is more natural to me than "status" because of my personal experience.) It's debatable whether the status of "false" should be given as "one" or "non-zero". Should man pages describe the actual program or the presumed specification of the program? What specification should be presumed in this case? The shell man pages sometimes say that a command returns "one" when "non-zero" would seem to suffice. (I think man pages should describe presumed specifications, but in this case I think the specification should be that "false" should exit with status = "1".) Which brings up another issue. Is an exit status code value an integer or a string and should they be given as numerics or English words? (I guess I'd wimp out and say that people should be expected to deal with the small confusion and allow both forms but recommend English words in most contexts as demanded by standard rules of English for readability.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 13:59:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53EC37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DE0BCEB; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20878; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:59:07 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAJLvJJ73517; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:57:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: davide+receptionist@cs.cmu.edu, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CompUSA? References: <20633.1006144329@piper.nectar.cs.cmu.edu> <20011118215746.F27929@windriver.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 19 Nov 2001 13:57:18 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20011118215746.F27929@windriver.com> Message-ID: Lines: 4 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I read on another list a few weeks ago that some chain stopped selling them; pretty sure it was CompUSA. IIRC, it was something to do with Wind River's recent decisions. I suspect that the BSD Mall people (http://mall.daemonnews.org) has or will talk to CompUSA (and others). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 14:15:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (claudel.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4ADA37B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:15:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19614866 invoked by uid 0); 19 Nov 2001 22:15:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cdlpc) ([212.198.229.145]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Nov 2001 22:15:55 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c17147$847bb100$91e5c6d4@cybercable.fr> Reply-To: "Cyrille Lefevre" From: "Cyrille Lefevre" To: "Alexey Zelkin" , "Martin Horcicka" Cc: "Hiroki Sato" , , , References: <20011115215244.A7285@ark.cris.net> <20011119104031.B88374-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> <20011119144029.A17854@ark.cris.net> Subject: Re: Why TIDY can never work correctly with ISO-8859-2 and others Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:14:08 +0100 Organization: ACME MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Alexey Zelkin" wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:45:08AM +0100, Martin Horcicka wrote: [snip] > There's no simple way to turn off .tidyrc because it's unconditionally > preloaded before processing any command line option. As simple workaround how about if (!getenv("NOTIDYRC")) etc. ? I currently don't have a FreeBSD box, so I can't provide a patch but I'm sure you will ;^) Cyrille Lefevre. -- mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 14:20:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5000037B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:20:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 4780A4B65D; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:20:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:20:08 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook port section 4.5.2.1 Message-ID: <20011119142008.Z27929@windriver.com> References: <20011119133757.A93141@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="df+09Je9rNq3P+GE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011119133757.A93141@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:37:57PM -0500 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --df+09Je9rNq3P+GE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:37:57PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > This section of the Handbook discusses building ports using a distfile > pulled from a FreeBSD CDROM. I believe that we no longer ship > distfiles on the CDROMs, so this entire section is now pointless. We do indeed ship distfiles on CDROMS, and maybe even DVDs as well. There are no distfiles on the first 4 CDROM images however. The FreeBSD Toolkit product from FreeBSD Mall contains the distfiles, just as it has for many years. - Murray --df+09Je9rNq3P+GE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+YWXtNcQog5FH30RAiAMAJ9WSSa3llef8cq9ZzwEXvPN3xmudQCgzciZ CGabA3sLlk+eHWl2NLjOMUQ= =P2f9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --df+09Je9rNq3P+GE-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 14:48:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wlcg.com (mail.wlcg.com [198.92.199.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC2D37B41B; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:48:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rsimmons@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJMmH439862; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:48:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:48:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200111192248.fAJMmH439862@mail.wlcg.com> To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: pkg-plist instructions missing a switch on the find command From: Rob Simmons Reply-To: Rob Simmons Cc: doc@freebsd.org X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Submitter-Id: current-users >Originator: Rob Simmons >Organization: >Confidential: no >Synopsis: pkg-plist instructions missing a switch on the find command >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Category: docs >Class: doc-bug >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Environment: System: FreeBSD mail 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #1: Tue Oct 9 11:45:16 EDT 2001 rsimmons@mail:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WASABI i386 >Description: The instructions for how to automatically create a package list in The Porter's Handbook is missing the depth first traversal switch on the find commands. Without it, the pkg-plist that is created has the directories in the wrong order. When the port is removed from the machine it fails. >How-To-Repeat: follow the instructions here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/porting-autoplist.html >Fix: In the section for "Store the directory structure in a new file." The command "# (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find * -type d) > OLD-DIRS" should be "# (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find -d * -type d) > OLD-DIRS" in the next section the command "# (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find * \! -type d) > pkg-plist" should be "# (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find -d * \! -type d) > pkg-plist" the same goes for the last example as well. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 14:50:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5D437B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJMo0v05620; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:50:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mail.wlcg.com (mail.wlcg.com [198.92.199.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC2D37B41B; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:48:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rsimmons@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJMmH439862; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:48:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons) Message-Id: <200111192248.fAJMmH439862@mail.wlcg.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:48:17 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Simmons Reply-To: Rob Simmons To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32116: pkg-plist instructions missing a switch on the find command Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32116 >Category: docs >Synopsis: pkg-plist instructions missing a switch on the find command >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Nov 19 14:50:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rob Simmons >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD mail 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #1: Tue Oct 9 11:45:16 EDT 2001 rsimmons@mail:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WASABI i386 >Description: The instructions for how to automatically create a package list in The Porter's Handbook is missing the depth first traversal switch on the find commands. Without it, the pkg-plist that is created has the directories in the wrong order. When the port is removed from the machine it fails. >How-To-Repeat: follow the instructions here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/porting-autoplist.html >Fix: In the section for "Store the directory structure in a new file." The command "# (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find * -type d) > OLD-DIRS" should be "# (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find -d * -type d) > OLD-DIRS" in the next section the command "# (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find * \! -type d) > pkg-plist" should be "# (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find -d * \! -type d) > pkg-plist" the same goes for the last example as well. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 14:58:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wlcg.com (mail.wlcg.com [198.92.199.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8F237B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rsimmons@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJMwVw40175; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:58:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:58:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200111192258.fAJMwVw40175@mail.wlcg.com> To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Change Washington, DC User Group Listing From: Rob Simmons Reply-To: Rob Simmons Cc: doc@freebsd.org X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Submitter-Id: current-users >Originator: Rob Simmons >Organization: >Confidential: no >Synopsis: Change Washington, DC User Group Listing >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Category: docs >Class: change-request >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Environment: System: FreeBSD mail 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #1: Tue Oct 9 11:45:16 EDT 2001 rsimmons@mail:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WASABI i386 >Description: Please change the listing for the Washington, DC User Group. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: Please adjust the text to read: Washington DC (DC Metropolitan Area) FreeBSD User Group. Please contact Richard Cramer, Sytex Access Ltd. at 703-425-2515, or preferred, email at rcramer@sytex.net to be put on a member distribution list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 15: 0:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FB737B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAJN03106732; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mail.wlcg.com (mail.wlcg.com [198.92.199.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8F237B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rsimmons@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJMwVw40175; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:58:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons) Message-Id: <200111192258.fAJMwVw40175@mail.wlcg.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:58:31 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Simmons Reply-To: Rob Simmons To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32117: Change Washington, DC User Group Listing Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32117 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Change Washington, DC User Group Listing >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Nov 19 15:00:03 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rob Simmons >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD mail 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #1: Tue Oct 9 11:45:16 EDT 2001 rsimmons@mail:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WASABI i386 >Description: Please change the listing for the Washington, DC User Group. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: Please adjust the text to read: Washington DC (DC Metropolitan Area) FreeBSD User Group. Please contact Richard Cramer, Sytex Access Ltd. at 703-425-2515, or preferred, email at rcramer@sytex.net to be put on a member distribution list. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 15:17: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313E637B419; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:17:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJNH0395306; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:17:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:17:00 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Murray Stokely Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Handbook port section 4.5.2.1 Message-ID: <20011119181700.A95291@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20011119133757.A93141@blackhelicopters.org> <20011119142008.Z27929@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011119142008.Z27929@windriver.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:20:08PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:20:08PM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > We do indeed ship distfiles on CDROMS, and maybe even DVDs as well. > There are no distfiles on the first 4 CDROM images however. The > FreeBSD Toolkit product from FreeBSD Mall contains the distfiles, just > as it has for many years. Aha! So, what we need is a clarification that, search as you may on the official 4 ISOs, you won't find the distfiles. That's what most people will think of when they think "CDROM", after all. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 19:26:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail42.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail42.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C189537B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:26:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from PatriciaM ([24.20.151.241]) by femail42.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011120032618.IHEU867.femail42.sdc1.sfba.home.com@PatriciaM> for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:26:18 -0800 Message-ID: <004701c17172$67bdffc0$f1971418@Tupou.sttls1.wa.home.com> From: "Patricia Tupou" To: Subject: ATTENTION Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:21:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C1712F.593DABA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C1712F.593DABA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe I have gotten on a mailing list you work on I received an email indicationg ATTENTION from Chijoke Ani asking me to = help get 26 million dollars into the US. 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------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C1712F.593DABA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 19 19:38: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4BC37B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15811; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:37:57 -0800 Message-ID: <3BF9D014.7020901@owt.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:37:56 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patricia Tupou Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATTENTION References: <004701c17172$67bdffc0$f1971418@Tupou.sttls1.wa.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Patricia Tupou wrote: > I believe I have gotten on a mailing list you work on > > > > I received an email indicationg ATTENTION from Chijoke Ani asking me to > help get 26 million dollars into the US. > > > > I found the initial email and I do not think it funny or amusing and I > do not believe it to be real. But in case it is I have contacted the > FBI regarding the email. > > > > I wish my email address removed from your list immediately. > You had to use the majordomo to sign up and you have to use the majordomo to un-subscribe. It wasn't sent to you directly. I would ignore it like the 10's of other misdirected messages that continually pop up here. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 1:22:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7A237B417; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fAK9MEP84264; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:22:14 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:22:13 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: setantae , FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Message-ID: <20011120112213.B77582@sunbay.com> References: <20011119112558.GA65070@rhadamanth> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:12:42PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > I think "true" and "false" should not bother with DIAGNOSTIC sections, > but if used they should match the description's terminology and sense. > I agree. > All of "exit code", "exit status", "status" are in common use ("exit > value", less so), but in the "sh", "ksh", and "csh" man pages "exit > code" is used only in "sh" and there only in two adjacent sentences. > It is also used in the sysexits(3) manpage. > Selection of "status" or "exit status" is more context dependent and a > matter of taste. (I would try to avoid using "code", even though that > is more natural to me than "status" because of my personal experience.) > Irrelevant. > It's debatable whether the status of "false" should be given as "one" or > "non-zero". Should man pages describe the actual program or the presumed > specification of the program? What specification should be presumed in > this case? > These manpages clain the conformance to POSIX, and POSIX says false(1) should always return with a non-zero exit code, hence we should use "non-zero". > The shell man pages sometimes say that a command > returns "one" when "non-zero" would seem to suffice. (I think man pages > should describe presumed specifications, but in this case I think the > specification should be that "false" should exit with status = "1".) > Nope. > Which brings up another issue. Is an exit status code value an integer > or a string and should they be given as numerics or English words? > It's definitely an integer. :-) > (I guess I'd wimp out and say that people should be expected to deal with > the small confusion and allow both forms but recommend English words in > most contexts as demanded by standard rules of English for readability.) > Yes, both forms are allowed. Finally, I suggest to commit the following: Index: true/true.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/true/true.1,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -p -r1.8 true.1 --- true/true.1 2001/07/15 08:01:38 1.8 +++ true/true.1 2001/11/20 09:09:35 @@ -46,17 +46,11 @@ .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm -command is normally used in a Bourne shell script. -It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running -(or failing to run) a list of commands. +utility always returns with exit code zero. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr false 1 , .Xr sh 1 -.Sh DIAGNOSTICS -The -.Nm -utility always returns with exit code zero. .Sh STANDARDS The .Nm Index: false/false.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/false/false.1,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -p -r1.8 false.1 --- false/false.1 2001/07/15 08:01:13 1.8 +++ false/false.1 2001/11/20 09:09:35 @@ -46,13 +46,7 @@ .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm -command is usually used in a Bourne shell script. -It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running -(or failing to run) a list of commands. -.Pp -The -.Nm -utility always exits with a value other than zero. +utility always returns with a non-zero exit code. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr sh 1 , Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 1:30:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B348837B41C for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAK9U1H23785; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:30:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111200930.fAK9U1H23785@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Reply-To: Ruslan Ermilov Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32082; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: setantae , FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:22:13 +0200 On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:12:42PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > I think "true" and "false" should not bother with DIAGNOSTIC sections, > but if used they should match the description's terminology and sense. > I agree. > All of "exit code", "exit status", "status" are in common use ("exit > value", less so), but in the "sh", "ksh", and "csh" man pages "exit > code" is used only in "sh" and there only in two adjacent sentences. > It is also used in the sysexits(3) manpage. > Selection of "status" or "exit status" is more context dependent and a > matter of taste. (I would try to avoid using "code", even though that > is more natural to me than "status" because of my personal experience.) > Irrelevant. > It's debatable whether the status of "false" should be given as "one" or > "non-zero". Should man pages describe the actual program or the presumed > specification of the program? What specification should be presumed in > this case? > These manpages clain the conformance to POSIX, and POSIX says false(1) should always return with a non-zero exit code, hence we should use "non-zero". > The shell man pages sometimes say that a command > returns "one" when "non-zero" would seem to suffice. (I think man pages > should describe presumed specifications, but in this case I think the > specification should be that "false" should exit with status = "1".) > Nope. > Which brings up another issue. Is an exit status code value an integer > or a string and should they be given as numerics or English words? > It's definitely an integer. :-) > (I guess I'd wimp out and say that people should be expected to deal with > the small confusion and allow both forms but recommend English words in > most contexts as demanded by standard rules of English for readability.) > Yes, both forms are allowed. Finally, I suggest to commit the following: Index: true/true.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/true/true.1,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -p -r1.8 true.1 --- true/true.1 2001/07/15 08:01:38 1.8 +++ true/true.1 2001/11/20 09:09:35 @@ -46,17 +46,11 @@ .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm -command is normally used in a Bourne shell script. -It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running -(or failing to run) a list of commands. +utility always returns with exit code zero. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr false 1 , .Xr sh 1 -.Sh DIAGNOSTICS -The -.Nm -utility always returns with exit code zero. .Sh STANDARDS The .Nm Index: false/false.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/false/false.1,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -p -r1.8 false.1 --- false/false.1 2001/07/15 08:01:13 1.8 +++ false/false.1 2001/11/20 09:09:35 @@ -46,13 +46,7 @@ .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm -command is usually used in a Bourne shell script. -It tests for the appropriate status "false" before running -(or failing to run) a list of commands. -.Pp -The -.Nm -utility always exits with a value other than zero. +utility always returns with a non-zero exit code. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr sh 1 , Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 1:44:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B3737B416; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 1667S5-0005PR-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:44:25 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1667NT-000JfE-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:39:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:39:39 +0000 From: setantae To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, swear@blarg.net, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Message-ID: <20011120093939.GA75402@rhadamanth> Mail-Followup-To: setantae , Ruslan Ermilov , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, swear@blarg.net, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200111200930.fAK9U1H23785@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200111200930.fAK9U1H23785@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 01:30:01AM -0800, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > I think "true" and "false" should not bother with DIAGNOSTIC sections, > > but if used they should match the description's terminology and sense. > > > I agree. Me too. I just tried to fit in with stuff like ls(1) and mv(1), but it doesn't seem necessary in these cases. > > It's debatable whether the status of "false" should be given as "one" or > > "non-zero". Should man pages describe the actual program or the presumed > > specification of the program? What specification should be presumed in > > this case? > > > These manpages clain the conformance to POSIX, and POSIX says false(1) > should always return with a non-zero exit code, hence we should use > "non-zero". Seconded (that's why I wanted to see the standard). > Finally, I suggest to commit the following: Suits me. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 1:50: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2664437B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAK9o2c26730; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111200950.fAK9o2c26730@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: setantae Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Reply-To: setantae Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32082; it has been noted by GNATS. From: setantae To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, swear@blarg.net, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:39:39 +0000 On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 01:30:01AM -0800, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > I think "true" and "false" should not bother with DIAGNOSTIC sections, > > but if used they should match the description's terminology and sense. > > > I agree. Me too. I just tried to fit in with stuff like ls(1) and mv(1), but it doesn't seem necessary in these cases. > > It's debatable whether the status of "false" should be given as "one" or > > "non-zero". Should man pages describe the actual program or the presumed > > specification of the program? What specification should be presumed in > > this case? > > > These manpages clain the conformance to POSIX, and POSIX says false(1) > should always return with a non-zero exit code, hence we should use > "non-zero". Seconded (that's why I wanted to see the standard). > Finally, I suggest to commit the following: Suits me. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 3:14:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF8C37B416; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAKBDxJ43150; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:13:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:13:59 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111201113.fAKBDxJ43150@freefall.freebsd.org> To: setantae@submonkey.net, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ru@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32082: true.1 totally incorrect Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: true.1 totally incorrect State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Tue Nov 20 03:12:33 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Hopefully the new text is less confusing. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ru Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Nov 20 03:12:33 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32082 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 3:20: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E85A37B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAKBK1643892; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at [128.130.111.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB2B37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from naos.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (naos [128.130.111.28]) by vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKBG1I24806; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:16:04 +0100 (MET) Received: (from pfeifer@localhost) by naos.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKBG0591400; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:16:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pfeifer) Message-Id: <200111201116.fAKBG0591400@naos.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:16:00 +0100 (CET) From: Gerald Pfeifer To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: admin@dbai.tuwien.ac.at X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32128: write(1) fails to refer to wall(1) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32128 >Category: docs >Synopsis: write(1) fails to refer to wall(1) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Nov 20 03:20:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gerald Pfeifer >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The man page for write fails to refer to wall, which is a (logical) extension of write. (I *knew* there was something like wall, and lost quite a bit of time looking for it because of this omission.) >How-To-Repeat: man write >Fix: Install the patch below: Index: write.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /sw/FreeBSD/CVSUP/src/usr.bin/write/write.1,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -3 -p -r1.8 write.1 --- write.1 2000/11/20 19:21:20 1.8 +++ write.1 2001/11/20 11:09:40 @@ -96,6 +96,7 @@ over. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr mesg 1 , .Xr talk 1 , +.Xr wall 1 , .Xr who 1 .Sh HISTORY A >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 5:14:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.precisioncs.net (pcsi2.coast.net [207.158.140.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFF837B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:14:40 -0800 (PST) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: soft updates X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:14:39 -0500 Message-ID: <819DCB4EC1D5F347B36E12976469AAD019FC48@pcsi_exchange.precisioncs.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: soft updates Thread-Index: AcFxxVDTftiRLcFvSbiIqg1iAYPH4w== From: "Jason Taylor" To: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I noticed that there is nothing in the handbook about soft updates, is there a reason for this? I was just curious since it (journaling file systems, etc.) seems to be a popular topic. Just curious.. TTFN, - -Jason - --------- FreeBSD magneto.office.precisioncs.net 4.4-STABLE 8:05AM up 38 mins, 1 user, load averages: 1.04, 1.07, 0.87 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQEVAwUBO/pXRJXw4bNLLNrbAQHvZggAjuayCJv39he81xRlkYTlNnLa6nlV2h8d gYgN5c6HOflzZ2Wb5qD1c0Y1PuLrBgsMSmjBEkFqH8uYcPFDf/zHe3Zixe3fUy74 Mux8Imsn+o4w4NAtjTRY9kbBX7piYKxb4N4KgmdlzhmrZfQmcIuqBH7ALiB/pECA JPjtb8Vdw7BLfa6liHP+245+TBKW3dw3tdxxaI77Z8y1KS41GulimcJUyjOldaoI aEpvIrls42QKB31LhlK/LZmv0Oy/n0VMRbYj+FMlZacdcZkNVkPcQdNfiA0eqUgB eorQ5A3VX1iG2UTaeuZwe8lNpVVjA4XryxzhnqSXx4yoVutYSoVZpg=3D=3D =3DTj+w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 6: 4:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D772F37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:03:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id CE4C94B65D; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:03:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:03:51 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Jason Taylor Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: soft updates Message-ID: <20011120060351.D27929@windriver.com> References: <819DCB4EC1D5F347B36E12976469AAD019FC48@pcsi_exchange.precisioncs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fd5uyaI9j6xoeUBo" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <819DCB4EC1D5F347B36E12976469AAD019FC48@pcsi_exchange.precisioncs.net>; from jtaylor@precisioncs.net on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:14:39AM -0500 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --fd5uyaI9j6xoeUBo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:14:39AM -0500, Jason Taylor wrote: > I noticed that there is nothing in the handbook about soft > updates, is there a reason for this? I was just curious since it > (journaling file systems, etc.) seems to be a popular topic. Just > curious.. There is a section about soft updates in the Configuration and Tuning chapter, and an entry shows up in the index. p155 of the recent print edition. ;) =20 =20 Hmm.. The entry for Soft Updates in the online index doesn't seem to be linked correctly to the text. - Murray --fd5uyaI9j6xoeUBo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+mLHtNcQog5FH30RAo0iAKCvpzLmlh4vWd559KqCbWlprGsn7wCfZeJ1 ZDuGwLKKebdTDnHnr2b3FpI= =Gahb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fd5uyaI9j6xoeUBo-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 6:19:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63E237B43B; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAKEG6803158; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:16:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:16:06 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111201416.fAKEG6803158@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32109: pedantic ports handbook correction Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: pedantic ports handbook correction State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Tue Nov 20 06:15:52 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks again! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32109 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 7: 9:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2950237B405; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from joe@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAKF2gs26460; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:02:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:02:42 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111201502.fAKF2gs26460@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gonter@whisky.wu-wien.ac.at, joe@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22338: ugen(4) man page missing Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ugen(4) man page missing State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: joe State-Changed-When: Tue Nov 20 07:02:02 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: I've imported the ugen man page from NetBSD. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22338 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 7:16:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from guppy.vub.ac.be (guppy.vub.ac.be [134.184.129.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D376337B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:16:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from fort-knox.rave.org (igwe15.vub.ac.be [134.184.49.15]) by guppy.vub.ac.be (8.9.1b+Sun/3.17.1.ap (guppy)) id QAA25763; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:16:15 +0100 (MET) for Received: (qmail 20253 invoked by uid 1979); 20 Nov 2001 15:15:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Nov 2001 15:15:37 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:15:37 +0100 (CET) From: Wouter Van Hemel To: Jason Taylor Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: soft updates In-Reply-To: <819DCB4EC1D5F347B36E12976469AAD019FC48@pcsi_exchange.precisioncs.net> Message-ID: PGP: 0B B4 BC 28 53 62 FE 94 6A 57 EE B8 A6 E2 1B E4 (0xAA5412F0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Jason Taylor wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > I noticed that there is nothing in the handbook about soft > updates, is there a reason for this? I was just curious since it > (journaling file systems, etc.) seems to be a popular topic. Just > curious.. > I - together with a few others - am currently translating a French document about the subject, in the hope it will be added either as a section in the handbook, or as a seperate article. I'm as good as ready with a draft for a few weeks already, I'm waiting for the others to merge... And hopefully someone who's native language's English will make it a readable whole... :) > TTFN, > > - -Jason > > - --------- > FreeBSD magneto.office.precisioncs.net 4.4-STABLE > 8:05AM up 38 mins, 1 user, load averages: 1.04, 1.07, 0.87 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use > > iQEVAwUBO/pXRJXw4bNLLNrbAQHvZggAjuayCJv39he81xRlkYTlNnLa6nlV2h8d > gYgN5c6HOflzZ2Wb5qD1c0Y1PuLrBgsMSmjBEkFqH8uYcPFDf/zHe3Zixe3fUy74 > Mux8Imsn+o4w4NAtjTRY9kbBX7piYKxb4N4KgmdlzhmrZfQmcIuqBH7ALiB/pECA > JPjtb8Vdw7BLfa6liHP+245+TBKW3dw3tdxxaI77Z8y1KS41GulimcJUyjOldaoI > aEpvIrls42QKB31LhlK/LZmv0Oy/n0VMRbYj+FMlZacdcZkNVkPcQdNfiA0eqUgB > eorQ5A3VX1iG2UTaeuZwe8lNpVVjA4XryxzhnqSXx4yoVutYSoVZpg== > =Tj+w > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 7:49:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D7237B41D; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:49:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAKFfST35202; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:41:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:41:28 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111201541.fAKFfST35202@freefall.freebsd.org> To: pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ru@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32128: write(1) fails to refer to wall(1) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: write(1) fails to refer to wall(1) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Tue Nov 20 07:39:57 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! Also added xrefs to wall(1) in mesg(1) and talk(1). Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ru Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Nov 20 07:39:57 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32128 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 8:20: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D2D37B41D for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:20:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAKGK3a45436; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DD637B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:19:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKGJMS07612; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:19:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200111201619.fAKGJMS07612@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:19:22 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/32136: correct PGP key link Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32136 >Category: docs >Synopsis: correct PGP key link >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Nov 20 08:20:03 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: current -doc tree >Description: The "file containing all PGP keys" does not appear to be in the doc distribution -- at least, it's not in *mine*, supped yesterday. >How-To-Repeat: just fix the link to point at www.FreeBSD.org >Fix: *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pgpkeys/chapter.sgml-dist Tue Nov 20 11:09:06 2001 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pgpkeys/chapter.sgml Tue Nov 20 11:14:28 2001 *************** *** 11,17 **** In case you need to verify a signature or send encrypted email to one of the officers or developers a number of keys are provided here for your convenience. A complete keyring of FreeBSD.org ! users is available for download from http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/pgpkeyring.txt. Officers --- 11,17 ---- In case you need to verify a signature or send encrypted email to one of the officers or developers a number of keys are provided here for your convenience. A complete keyring of FreeBSD.org ! users is available for download from http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/pgpkeyring.txt. Officers >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 12:14: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [216.223.192.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9115437B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:13:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from test2 (rubber-biscuit.inch.com [216.223.192.98]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/UTIL-INCH-2.2.0) with SMTP id PAA14007 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:13:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000801c172c8$8b4dc540$1600a8c0@test2> From: "boo" To: Subject: man page/link on handbook page error Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:10:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1729E.A1C38870" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1729E.A1C38870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x4079.html man page for=20 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Ddevfs&sektion=3D5 is absent. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1729E.A1C38870-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 12:45:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7276537B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:45:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKKj4C15023; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:45:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:45:04 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: boo Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: man page/link on handbook page error Message-ID: <20011120154504.A14999@blackhelicopters.org> References: <000801c172c8$8b4dc540$1600a8c0@test2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000801c172c8$8b4dc540$1600a8c0@test2>; from access@inch.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:10:18PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:10:18PM -0500, boo wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x4079.html > > man page for > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=devfs&sektion=5 > > is absent. Thanks for mentioning this. Well, -doc team, this one looks somewhat interesting. The entity for devfs(5) points to the releng_4 man pages. The reference in the page specifically discusses devfs(5) from -current. What's the proper way to handle this? ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 12:53: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0731C37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:53:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKKr1V15109; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:53:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:53:01 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Pete Fritchman Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: man page/link on handbook page error Message-ID: <20011120155301.A15092@blackhelicopters.org> References: <000801c172c8$8b4dc540$1600a8c0@test2> <20011120154504.A14999@blackhelicopters.org> <20011120154913.C10974@databits.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120154913.C10974@databits.net>; from petef@databits.net on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:49:13PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:49:13PM -0500, Pete Fritchman wrote: > ++ 20/11/01 15:45 -0500 - Michael Lucas: > | Well, -doc team, this one looks somewhat interesting. > | > | The entity for devfs(5) points to the releng_4 man pages. The > | reference in the page specifically discusses devfs(5) from -current. > | > | What's the proper way to handle this? > > How about: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=devfs&sektion=5&manpath=FreeBSD+5.0-current > > You can see the different options availabe by just going to > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi. True, but that kind of violates the "use entities everywhere" rule we have going. Is there a precedent for how this should be done? Surely somewhere in the docs there's something similar... ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 12:56: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C880D37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:56:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13902 invoked by uid 1001); 20 Nov 2001 20:49:14 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:49:13 -0500 From: Pete Fritchman To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: man page/link on handbook page error Message-ID: <20011120154913.C10974@databits.net> References: <000801c172c8$8b4dc540$1600a8c0@test2> <20011120154504.A14999@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120154504.A14999@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:45:04PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ++ 20/11/01 15:45 -0500 - Michael Lucas: | Well, -doc team, this one looks somewhat interesting. | | The entity for devfs(5) points to the releng_4 man pages. The | reference in the page specifically discusses devfs(5) from -current. | | What's the proper way to handle this? How about: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=devfs&sektion=5&manpath=FreeBSD+5.0-current You can see the different options availabe by just going to http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi. -pete -- Pete Fritchman [petef@(databits.net|freebsd.org|csh.rit.edu)] finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 13: 0:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E3637B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:00:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKL0Jk09855; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:00:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200111202100.fAKL0Jk09855@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Michael Lucas Cc: Pete Fritchman , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: man page/link on handbook page error In-Reply-To: <20011120155301.A15092@blackhelicopters.org> References: <000801c172c8$8b4dc540$1600a8c0@test2> <20011120154504.A14999@blackhelicopters.org> <20011120154913.C10974@databits.net> <20011120155301.A15092@blackhelicopters.org> Comments: In-reply-to Michael Lucas message dated "Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:53:01 -0500." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-681187907P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:00:19 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-681187907P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Michael Lucas wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:49:13PM -0500, Pete Fritchman wrote: > > ++ 20/11/01 15:45 -0500 - Michael Lucas: > > | Well, -doc team, this one looks somewhat interesting. > > | > > | The entity for devfs(5) points to the releng_4 man pages. The > > | reference in the page specifically discusses devfs(5) from -current. > > | > > | What's the proper way to handle this? > > > > How about: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=devfs&sektion=5&manpath=FreeBSD+5. > 0-current > > > > You can see the different options availabe by just going to > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi. > > True, but that kind of violates the "use entities everywhere" rule we > have going. > > Is there a precedent for how this should be done? Surely somewhere in > the docs there's something similar... We might need to just special-case this...I presume it's a pretty rare occurance, at least for the normal doc/ tree. BTW, the manpage references in the 5.0-CURRENT and 4.4-STABLE release documentation all point to the wrong place (same problem). In this case, it should be pretty easy to fix in the stylesheet since they *all* need to be changed. Bruce. --==_Exmh_-681187907P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7+sRi2MoxcVugUsMRAnhMAJ0R8+yMFGGS9QuUZ2K3sL6XIDvu9wCfbWJ8 TVay1541KTLzvFyYbzR/ebc= =1blH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-681187907P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 15:30:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4A937B405; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:30:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 5668814C40; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:30:22 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: www@freebsd.org Subject: PR guide From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 21 Nov 2001 00:30:21 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do we have anything remotely like a "guide to writing good problem reports" on the web site? I can't find anything in the handbook, at least. If I wanted to write such a document, where should I put it? 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--------------100629979920357-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 16:51:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3939737B416; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:51:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF107BC73; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:51:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18229; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:51:12 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAL0nHP74220; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:49:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PR guide References: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 20 Nov 2001 16:49:16 -0800 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > Do we have anything remotely like a "guide to writing good problem > reports" on the web site? I can't find anything in the handbook, at > least. If I wanted to write such a document, where should I put it? The Handbook has: 19.2.1. Bug reports and general commentary 19.2.3. Changes to existing source code These give some clues. Also the send-pr man page, which I suppose is at the web site. Seems like it should be in the first Handbook section above. If not, then maybe in a link off http://www.FreeBSD.org/send-pr.html and/or below http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#gnats To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 17:13:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8765037B418; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:13:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id B6F9C14C2E; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:13:47 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PR guide References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 21 Nov 2001 02:13:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) writes: > The Handbook has: > > 19.2.1. Bug reports and general commentary > 19.2.3. Changes to existing source code Uh? 19.2.1 is "Staying Current with FreeBSD". I can't find any mention of the words "bug" or "report" in the TOC. There seems to be a "Contributing to FreeBSD" chapter in CVS, but it's nowhere to be found in the version of the handbook that's on the web site. I finally found it as a separate article listed on the main doc page. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 17:44:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D419C37B416; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAL1i0Z16727; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:44:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:44:00 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PR guide Message-ID: <20011120204400.A16640@blackhelicopters.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from des@ofug.org on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:13:47AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [cc trimmed] Not sure what exactly you want in such an article, but I did an article on send-pr and FreeBSD: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/03/08/Big_Scary_Daemons.html It might be what you want, and it mentions you by name to boot. On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:13:47AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) writes: > > The Handbook has: > > > > 19.2.1. Bug reports and general commentary > > 19.2.3. Changes to existing source code > > Uh? 19.2.1 is "Staying Current with FreeBSD". I can't find any > mention of the words "bug" or "report" in the TOC. There seems to be > a "Contributing to FreeBSD" chapter in CVS, but it's nowhere to be > found in the version of the handbook that's on the web site. I > finally found it as a separate article listed on the main doc page. > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 18:33:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF6D37B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:33:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAL2XdA16981 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:33:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:33:39 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: major surgery on a chapter? Message-ID: <20011120213339.A16929@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, I'm doing a pass on the Handbook, and found that the ports chapter could really use some help. I've started to rewrite some stuff and add information, and found myself committing major surgery here and there. Some updates require touching chapter.sgml in several places. Some don't, but would only make sense if the changes in the previous sentence were in place. What's the best way to handle something like this? Create one massive patch per section and submit it for review before send-pr? Keep individual changes small, but a whole flock of them? Give up and just start my next FreeBSD book, leaving this alone? ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 19:35:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA5637B41A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:35:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a024.otenet.gr [212.205.215.24]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAL3Z4o20727; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:35:05 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAL3Z4A55212; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:35:04 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:35:04 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: major surgery on a chapter? Message-ID: <20011121033504.GA55131@hades.hell.gr> References: <20011120213339.A16929@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011120213339.A16929@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-11-20 21:33:39, Michael Lucas wrote: > Folks, > > I'm doing a pass on the Handbook, and found that the ports chapter > could really use some help. I've started to rewrite some stuff and > add information, and found myself committing major surgery here and > there. If the changes are more than a certain percentage, say you change more than 75% of the actual content, and the rest is still touched for style issues here and there, it seems that a new `chapter.sgml' posted in its entirety for review is what is called for :) This is of course, my own humble opinion. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 20:27:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from btamail.net.cn (host1.btamail.net.cn [202.106.196.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB10837B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc-1([202.108.68.140]) by btamail.net.cn(JetMail 2.5.3.0) with SMTP id jm423bfb428c; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:25:09 -0000 x-esmtp: 0 0 1 Message-ID: <1753182-220011122018451262@btamail.net.cn> X-EM-Version: 6, 0, 1, 0 X-EM-Registration: #00F06206106618006920 X-Priority: 3 From: "" To: "freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org" Subject: 多语种专业翻译机构，笔译、口译、网站本地化 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:45:12 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8" X-SMTPExp-Version: 1, 0, 2, 13 X-SMTPExp-Registration: 00B0320C107602006905 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" 　　欢迎进入《索文网站》 北京索文翻译有限公司 　索文网络营销服务中心 Soven Translation Co., Ltd. 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=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 21:45:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web14504.mail.yahoo.com (web14504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38A8137B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:45:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011121054534.67431.qmail@web14504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.99.16.28] by web14504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:45:34 PST Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:45:34 -0800 (PST) From: Jimmy LI Subject: Re: Contribution To: freeBSD-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sir, We would like to know if your organisation needs freeBSD document translation into Chinese (simplified for Mainland China). Our organisation is a Chinese city government owned computer research institute. We have about 400 computer engineers (both hardware and software). We are very interested in using freeBSD in China and keen to contribute to its development. First of all we thank we can do translation work, and further more we may be able to put them into our non-profit professional magzine, so that we can introduce freeBSD to more and more people. My name is Jimmy LI to be a contact person for them. Regards! Jimmy LI __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 21:50:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from home.bsdclub.org (home.bsdclub.org [202.227.26.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FC237B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:50:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.bsdclub.org [127.0.0.1]) by home.bsdclub.org (8.11.6/3.7W) with ESMTP id fAL5oRS53065; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:50:28 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:50:28 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20011121.145028.31232029.aki@z.ai.bsdclub.org> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: why some ML do not appear at Web. From: Akihiro IIJIMA X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Today, I find "freebsd-firewire ML", but this list not appear at Web page(handbook) http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html I send to majordomo@FreeBSD.org, and got list. compare list and page, found some diff. freebsd-firewire IEEE 1394 aka iLink Technical List firewire IEEE 1394 aka iLink Technical List freebsd-lfs LFS development lfs LFS development freebsd-standards Technical Discussions standards Technical Discussions Is there reason, do not appear ??(secret list??) PS. > lite2 merge of 4.4BSD-Lite2 source code Is This list alive? Can subscribe me? -- Akihiro IIJIMA aki@DEBUG.gr.jp / aki@jp.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 22:17: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C77337B418; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:16:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id A3D814B65D; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:16:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:16:27 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PR guide Message-ID: <20011120221627.L27929@windriver.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlsYxwg8UDQn+EKZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from swear@blarg.net on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 04:49:16PM -0800 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --UlsYxwg8UDQn+EKZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 04:49:16PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > The Handbook has: >=20 > 19.2.1. Bug reports and general commentary > 19.2.3. Changes to existing source code No it doesn't. This chapter was moved into a separate article called "Contributing to FreeBSD" that is linked from the main page of our website and from the www.freebsd.org/docs.html. That information is no longer in the Handbook. - Murray --UlsYxwg8UDQn+EKZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+0a7tNcQog5FH30RAuh4AKCy1jgt+c7JWE91unU2qQv2wvFjDACgpuG5 3k2pLTbw+xTQ6AKNpaHnOUU= =aG/R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlsYxwg8UDQn+EKZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 20 22:20: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF3837B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAL6K1H46367; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:20:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111210620.fAL6K1H46367@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Murray Stokely Subject: Re: docs/32136: correct PGP key link Reply-To: Murray Stokely Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32136; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Murray Stokely To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32136: correct PGP key link Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:14:28 -0800 --kr14OxHsRwZHHqxS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:19:22AM -0500, mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org wrote: > The "file containing all PGP keys" does not appear to be in the doc > distribution -- at least, it's not in *mine*, supped yesterday. It is a generated file, it will be built and installed when the web tree is built. This worked fine last I checked locally and it is working fine on freefall right now. 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=50=6f=75=72=20=76=6f=75=73=20=64=65=73=61=62=6f=6e=6e=65=72=20=61=20=63=65=74=74=65=20=6f=66=66=72=65=2c=20=76=6f=75=73=20=70=6f=75=76=65=7a=20=63=6c=69=71=75=65=72=20=73=75=72=20=6c=65=20=6c=69=65=6e=20=63=69=2d=64=65=73=73=6f=75=73=3a =6d=61=69=6c=74=6f=3a=74=74=40=61=61=6c=77=61=79=2e=6f=72=67=20=65=6e=20=e9=63=72=69=76=61=6e=74=20=22=72=65=6d=6f=76=65=22=20=64=61=6e=73=20=6c=65=20=73=75=6a=65=74=2e ------=_NextPart_001_0031_01C05A02.8AD62BA0-- ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C05A02.8AD62BA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 21 2:49:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CBE37B416; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:49:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fALAfk854076; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:41:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:41:46 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111211041.fALAfk854076@freefall.freebsd.org> To: karp@math.wisc.edu, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31720: man ftpd(8) omits potentially crucial security warning Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: man ftpd(8) omits potentially crucial security warning State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 21 02:39:59 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: This is a duplicate of 30690, the changes it describes have been committed to -CURRENT and merged to -STABLE already. Thank you for your work, in submitting this report. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31720 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 21 2:59:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A769937B42C; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:59:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fALAtdY56027; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:55:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:55:39 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111211055.fALAtdY56027@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hitmaster2k@yahoo.com, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32101: [PATCH] - Resolving an issue with the 'custom kernel' chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] - Resolving an issue with the 'custom kernel' chapter State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 21 02:54:54 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Your change has been committed with minor changes. Thank you :) http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32101 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 21 3: 9:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BDD37B419; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:09:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fALB75v61509; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:07:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:07:05 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111211107.fALB75v61509@freefall.freebsd.org> To: knotwell@ix.netcom.com, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30408: loader man page is out-of-date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: loader man page is out-of-date State-Changed-From-To: feedback->open State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 21 03:06:43 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Correct accidental state change. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30408 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 21 3: 9:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F6637B418; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:09:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fALB5ra61051; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:05:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:05:53 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111211105.fALB5ra61051@freefall.freebsd.org> To: knotwell@ix.netcom.com, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30408: loader man page is out-of-date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: loader man page is out-of-date State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 21 03:03:53 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30408 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 21 3:19:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33F037B416; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fALBFuH64500; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:15:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:15:56 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111211115.fALBFuH64500@freefall.freebsd.org> To: knotwell@ix.netcom.com, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30408: loader man page is out-of-date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: loader man page is out-of-date State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 21 03:13:19 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: This appears to be a duplicate of docs/32020. I'm closing this one since 32020 also describes a way to start working on a fix for loader.8 manpage. Thank you for working on this :) http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30408 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 21 5: 0: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B4137B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fALD02j09891; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:00:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111211300.fALD02j09891@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: docs/32136: correct PGP key link Reply-To: Michael Lucas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32136; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Michael Lucas To: Murray Stokely Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32136: correct PGP key link Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:52:04 -0500 On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:14:28PM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > It is a generated file, it will be built and installed when the web > tree is built. Aha! I'm not tracking the web tree, just -doc. I suspect I should start, though. Please close this PR. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 21 6:29:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EEE37B405; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:29:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fALEJj548552; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:19:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:19:46 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111211419.fALEJj548552@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32136: correct PGP key link Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: correct PGP key link State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 21 06:19:26 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Originator asks for this PR to be closed. Porblem solved. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32136 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 21 7:39:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from spider10.spiderwebhost.net (spider10.spiderwebhost.net [64.95.69.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB2337B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from T23 (dhcp065-029-083-246.indy.rr.com [65.29.83.246]) by spider10.spiderwebhost.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA14387 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:39:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200111211539.KAA14387@spider10.spiderwebhost.net> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:39:23 -0500 From: "Steven M. Seltzer" Subject: New Dental Practice Philosophy To: Contributing to FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I would like to wish you a very Happy Thanksgiving! We recently created a one page practice philosophy statement that emphasizes = teamwork, caring, helping others, and developing your full potential by = assuming a more active role in the practice. =20 This philosophy is designed specifically for updating skills in the practice to = utilize technology tools that improve productivity and efficiency. If you would like to receive this philosophy statement with my compliments, = please reply to this e-mail with your name, address, and e-mail address where = you would like the philosophy sent. If you prefer not to receive future technology and practice management updates = like this one, please reply to this message and type, "remove" in the subject = line. Thank you. Best regards, Steve Seltzer www.hitecdentist.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 21 7:51:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from spider10.spiderwebhost.net (spider10.spiderwebhost.net [64.95.69.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA3837B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:51:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from T23 (dhcp065-029-083-246.indy.rr.com [65.29.83.246]) by spider10.spiderwebhost.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA17688 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:51:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200111211551.KAA17688@spider10.spiderwebhost.net> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:51:24 -0500 From: "Steven M. Seltzer" Subject: New Dental Practice Philosophy To: FreeBSD In The Press Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I would like to wish you a very Happy Thanksgiving! We recently created a one page practice philosophy statement that emphasizes = teamwork, caring, helping others, and developing your full potential by = assuming a more active role in the practice. =20 This philosophy is designed specifically for updating skills in the practice to = utilize technology tools that improve productivity and efficiency. If you would like to receive this philosophy statement with my compliments, = please reply to this e-mail with your name, address, and e-mail address where = you would like the philosophy sent. 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Best regards, Steve Seltzer www.hitecdentist.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 21 11:39: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F57937B41B for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23988 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 19:38:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Nov 2001 19:38:40 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20011121.145028.31232029.aki@z.ai.bsdclub.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:38:36 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Akihiro IIJIMA Subject: RE: why some ML do not appear at Web. Cc: doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21-Nov-01 Akihiro IIJIMA wrote: > Today, I find "freebsd-firewire ML", > but this list not appear at Web page(handbook) > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html > > I send to majordomo@FreeBSD.org, and got list. > compare list and page, found some diff. > > freebsd-firewire IEEE 1394 aka iLink Technical List > firewire IEEE 1394 aka iLink Technical List This one probably has very little traffic on it, but could be added to the handbook. > freebsd-lfs LFS development > lfs LFS development This one is likely very dead and should most likely be killed. > freebsd-standards Technical Discussions > standards Technical Discussions This one could be added to the handbook I think. The lite2 list is mosty certainly dead as that was a long time ago. It should be killed if it isn't already. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 21 19:10: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD0637B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAM3A2154823; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111220310.fAM3A2154823@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/31925: Be a bit more descriptive about realloc's usage Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31925; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Andrew Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31925: Be a bit more descriptive about realloc's usage Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:59:54 +0200 On 2001-11-12 15:05:03, Andrew wrote: > The existing malloc(3) page doesn't make it clear that realloc may return a > pointer to a completely different memory block than the one passed to it. I > hope this patch makes things a bit clearer for people programming while tired ;) Andrew, thanks for pointing this out. A very usual cause of bugs when realloc() is used is to assume that realloc() returns the same value passed as a parameter :) A few lines above the changed lines, malloc.3 uses `newly allocated portion of memory' to refer to the result of realloc(3). What do you think of the following diff, which is derived from your changes? Index: malloc.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.3,v retrieving revision 1.49 diff -8 -u -r1.49 malloc.3 --- malloc.3 5 Nov 2001 00:39:27 -0000 1.49 +++ malloc.3 22 Nov 2001 02:53:08 -0000 @@ -112,16 +112,20 @@ If the new size is larger, the value of the newly allocated portion of the memory is undefined. If the requested memory cannot be allocated, .Dv NULL is returned and the memory referenced by .Fa ptr is valid and unchanged. +If memory can be allocated a pointer to the newly allocated portion of +the memory is returned. Note that this may be different from the value +passed as +.Fa ptr . If .Fa ptr is .Dv NULL , the .Fn realloc function behaves identically to .Fn malloc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 22 0:23: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx0.grolier.fr (relay.grolier.fr [194.158.96.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F4C37B41A for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from hautmedoc.dockes.com (bas25-111.idf.w.club-internet.fr [212.194.9.111]) by mx0.grolier.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB28C58F for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:22:59 +0100 (CET) Received: (from dockes@localhost) by hautmedoc.dockes.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAM8MxB72544; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:22:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dockes) From: Jean-Francois Dockes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15356.46562.665297.828958@hautmedoc.dockes.com> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:22:58 +0100 To: Subject: Sound subsystem chapter for the developers handbook X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have written a 'Sound subsystem' chapter for the developers handbook. Available for your review: HTML: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dockes/developers-handbook/oss.html Source: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dockes/developers-handbook/sound/chapter.sgml Suggested patch for Makefile, etc..: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dockes/developers-handbook/sound/dhb.patch Cameron Grant was kind enough to check the drafts, which should ensure that the technical side is mostly correct. The general quality of the document (language, markup, consistency, etc...) may need a little more work ... Eagerly expecting your comments and corrections, Jean-Francois Dockes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 22 3: 6: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from riffraff.plig.net (riffraff.plig.net [195.40.6.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4BC37B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by riffraff.plig.net (Postfix, from userid 3010) id A658547BBC; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:05:54 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:05:54 +0000 From: Marc Silver To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: A guide to securing FreeBSD 4.x -STABLE ?? Message-ID: <20011122110554.A44408@draenor.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi there, A few days ago, a friend asked me if I could possibly write him some tips for securing his FreeBSD installation. I went a little overboard and as a result, this document came about. I'd like to request comment/flames/suggestions regarding it, since the contents are based purely on my experiences and needs. Any insight or even alternate views are welcome. You can find the document at: http://draenor.org/securebsd/secure.txt - plain text (also attached) http://draenor.org/securebsd/secure.pdf - PDF format Please reply to this address, as I am not currently subscribed to this list. Cheers, Marc p.s. also posted to freebsd-security for their comment. -- I've learned that being kind is more important than being right. -- Andy Rooney --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="secure.txt" +===================================================================+ + A basic guide to securing FreeBSD 4.x-STABLE + +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ + + + Written by Marc Silver 2001 + + + +===================================================================+ $Id: secure,v 1.5 2001/11/22 10:54:42 marcs Exp $; Overview ======== The word security means different things to different people. While this document covers various aspects and suggests things that can be done to secure FreeBSD, it is is by no means a definitive guide to securing FreeBSD. It is merely a model that I use on my own machines, and one that I have had great success with. I'd also like to point out that I am by no means a security 'expert'... I am merely a _very_ paranoid sysadmin who takes great pride in securing my servers. For a broader look at security on FreeBSD, and as a primer to this document, I would suggest that everyone read the man page for security(7) on their FreeBSD system. This is a work in progress. As such, this document will change, grow and develop over time. If you have something to add, or wish to suggest a change/make a comment or say anything for that matter, please email me (marcs@draenor.org). With that out of the way, let's begin. It should be noted that this document isn't by any means going to stop remote or local DoS attacks. It can merely help you to better secure default FreeBSD instalations. The Foundation for a secure system ================================== A system should be set up to be secure from the very beginning. There are a number of things that can be done during the FreeBSD installation that can save you serious headaches later. In my opinion, file system setup can make a big difference in cases where you can (and must) assume that the attacker already has a local login on the machine. o File System Layout The file system layout below is specific to a shell server where many users will be connecting to the machine and using it for various tasks such as mail, irc, etc. You will most likely need to adapt this to suit your own needs. Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 198399 33019 149509 18% / /dev/ad0s1f 49583 27879 17738 61% /tmp /dev/ad0s1d 12348393 2563101 8797421 23% /usr /dev/ad0s1h 4065262 97983 3642059 3% /usr/people /dev/ad0s1g 2032623 6026 1863988 0% /var procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc Now, let's look at the output from the mount(8) command: /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1f on /tmp (ufs, local, nodev, nosuid, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1d on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1h on /usr/people (ufs, local, nosuid, with quotas, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1g on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) procfs on /proc (procfs, local) Now, let's discuss why I've set things up this way. The root partition (/) is a reasonable 200MB, and is home to the kernel as well as KLD's and various other fairly important directories which are linked directly off it (/sbin comes to mind). With this in mind, it's possible at a later stage to mount the root partition as read-only, by editing the flags for this partition in the fstab(5) file. Temporary files are stored in /tmp, and since this directory is usually world writeable, it's important to not allow certain files to be used from this directory. Using the fstab(5) file (also see mount(8)) you should add the NOSUID and NODEV flags for /tmp which disables suid programs and stops character or block special devices on the filesystem. You may also want to add the NOEXEC flag for /tmp, but this is severely restrictive, and may begin to make things difficult for your users, and may also limit your ability to find an intruder. It's important to note that you should symlink /usr/tmp and /var/tmp to this /tmp partition, else you're still giving users a tmp directory with no restrictions. User specific directories are kept in /usr/people (most people prefer to use /home -- you can merely symlink /home -> /usr/people) and on this partition, it's a good idea to add the NOSUID flag, as well as adding QUOTA support to limit the amount of disk space that your users may use. Both /usr and /var are standard partitions with soft-updates enabled. This model can obviously be changed to suit your needs, and you can be even more anal if you wish. This however, is intended to strike a happy medium between security and usability. o System Secure Levels For most machines, there is absolutely no reason to run in securelevel -1, unless you're running X-Windows on the machine. If you're not running X, then I would suggest switching to securelevel 1 using the sysctl(8) variable kern.securelevel. Changing this to 1 will mean that you may no longer replace the kernel without being in single user mode (system immutable and system append-only flags are enforced), KLD's may not be loaded/unloaded and /dev/mem and /dev/kmem may not be opened for writing. To change this without rebooting issue the command: sysctl kern.securelevel=1 To make this change more permanent, add the following to /etc/rc.conf: kern_securelevel_enable="YES" kern_securelevel="1" On more critical machines, you may wish to increase the securelevel to 2 or 3. For more information on the various secure levels and what they do, please read the man page for init(8). Securing your newly installed BSD box ===================================== o Removal of the toor user By default, FreeBSD ships with an additional user that has a UID of 0. This user is known as toor (root backwards), and is intended as a backup user, so that if you mistakenly broke (for eg) root's shell, you could log in using this user and fix things. The account is disabled (passwordless) by default, and hence of no use unless you change the password. You may either choose to set a password for it, or remove it. I prefer to remove it. This is purely up to you. o Shut down services It's important to not have any non-essential services running on the machine. The best thing to do is kill all the services running on your machine, and then explicitly enable those that you want running. This way you know for sure what's running on your machine. You can tell what ports are open on your machine by using the netstat(1) command. eg: secure-me (1) : netstat -na | grep LIST tcp4 0 0 *.80 *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.25 *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.22 *.* LISTEN This shows that ports 22 (ssh), 25 (smtp), and 80 (http) are listening on this machine on all IP's. If you have a process listening and you're unsure of what process is keeping that port open, you may use sockstat(1) to list open sockets and provide you with the relevant information. Use rc.conf(5) to easily configure which services start up by default, as well as local package init scripts which can be found in /usr/local/etc/rc.d o Telnetd and it's replacement - sshd There are certain services which you do not want to run at any cost if at all possible. Specifically I am going to mention telnetd. In this day and age, it's amazing to find that people still use this horribly insecure protocol. Do NOT use telnetd if at all possible. FreeBSD (since 4.1.1) now comes with OpenSSH as part of the base system, and sshd is a perfect drop in replacement for telnetd, while remaining more secure by using encryption to protect your session. The protocol also allows for stronger encryption with the use of RSA/DSA keys. It should be noted that the most current version of OpenSSH now use the SSH protocol version 2, but for those systems that use a slightly older version, it is advised to only allow version 2 of the protocol. This can be done by making sure the following line exists in /etc/ssh/sshd_config: Protocol 2 This will tell the sshd that it should only allow SSH protocol version 2 - and it will not fallback to version 1. Please note that you may need to restart the sshd in order for this change to take effect. It's also preferable to use DSA keys wherever possible to enhance security even more. o Crontabs Firstly, there are certain files which you may generally not want users looking at. You can safely chmod /etc/crontab to 0640 so that only root and users in the wheel group can see it. Your users do not need to know what jobs cron triggers. At the same time, you may not want to allow users to use crontab(1) at all. You can easily stop them by creating /var/cron/deny and adding a list of users to that file. Those users will then be told: crontab: you (marcs) are not allowed to use this program o ipfw While ipfw is well beyond the scope of this document, you may wish to secure the machine further as well as gain information on attack patterns on your machine using ipfw. This can sometimes provide information that someone is more interested in your machine than they should be. See the ipfw(8) page for more information. o Secure the console Many people are concerned that a malicious user with physical access could simply reboot into single user mode and change the root password. While it's quite clear that if an attacker has physical access to your machine, NOTHING you do can keep it safe, you can prevent people from simply changing the root password in single user mode by performing one simple step. This can be done by changing the the word 'secure' on the 'console' line to 'insecure'. This will require you to enter the root password when dropping into single user mode. o Process accounting It's nice to know exactly what's happening on your machine and to this end, I would suggest enabling process accounting on any machine that you run. This enables to you tell more or less what commands users are executing, and it can also be useful when debugging certain problems. To enable, merely execute the following commands: secure-me (1) : touch /var/account/acct secure-me (2) : accton /var/account/acct To make this change more permanent, add the following line to /etc/rc.conf: accounting_enable="YES" Services ======== o Keep your packages current When you're running daemons that are worldly visible and accessible it's important to make sure (and it's common sense) that your packages are always up to date. If you see a new version of a package you have installed, then update it via the ports tree to make sure that you've always got the latest version. It only takes a few minutes in most cases, but it's worth the effort if you're saving the machine from being compromised. It'll help to watch lists like bugtraq for security advisories. o Keep your OS current Similarly, it's important to keep FreeBSD itself up to date. Keep your source tree up to date, and 'make world' if/when new security patches are made available. It'll help to watch lists like bugtraq for security advisories. Managing user accounts ====================== o User quotas By enforcing user quotas on certain filesystems you can limit the damage that an attacker who wants to consume disk space can do. Enforce quotas wherever possible. --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 22 5: 7: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (sirius-giga.rz.uni-ulm.de [134.60.246.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E8837B416; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:06:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from lilith (lilith.wohnheim.uni-ulm.de [134.60.106.64]) by mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id fAMD6ptP020689; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:06:51 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <00f301c17356$8d5abbc0$4011a8c0@wohnheim.uniulm.de> From: "Siegbert Baude" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , References: <3BFBF0FF.2D64FEBE@gmx.de> <20011121130204.A22237@xor.obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: src/crypto/ vs. src/secure -> make buildworld fails Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:06:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Kris and Ruslan, thanks for the explanation. I wrote: >> as I want to strip down my system, I cvsupped today without src/secure >> as the handbook >> (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html) >> for src/secure only reads: DES and I don't need DES. Kris wrote: > That list is out of date. So I added the doc@freebsd.org in hope to reach the relevant people. Should I file a PR in addition? > The src-secure collection is the build > framework for all of the cryptographic utilities in FreeBSD including > openssl, openssh, and crypto support for other utilities like ppp and > tcpdump. It's paired with src-crypto; if you don't want any of it, > either remove the secure/ and crypto/ directories, or set NOSECURE=foo > in your /etc/make.conf. Damn, I only grepped for DES in defaults/make.conf . My bad, next time I will have a closer look. BTW, if src-crypto and src-secure depend on each other and make buildworld will fail, if one is missing, why are they two different collections and not one single? Ciao Siegbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 22 7:41:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (ns.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA32337B405; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:41:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ark.cris.net (ns2.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA76249; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:40:57 +0200 (EET) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fAMFeRV36776; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:40:27 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:40:27 +0200 From: Alexey Zelkin To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, wosch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/www/tidy/files patch-ac patch-ad patch-ae patch-af patch-ag patch-ah Message-ID: <20011122174027.A33669@ark.cris.net> References: <200111221526.fAMFQhU17221@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200111221526.fAMFQhU17221@freefall.freebsd.org>; from phantom@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 07:26:43AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, I am going to update TIDYFLAGS in www/ and doc/ (ru_RU.KOI8-R) trees to utilize '-preserve' option within few days. I also think Japanese people will also do same thing. So, everybody who want to avoid misterious breaks of doc/ and www/ trees build in non-English area need to upgrade tidy(1). PS: Can someone do it for freefall ? On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 07:26:43AM -0800, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > phantom 2001/11/22 07:26:43 PST > > Added files: > www/tidy/files patch-ac patch-ad patch-ae patch-af > patch-ag patch-ah > Log: > Add new option '-preserve' to preserve characters entities from source file > (i.e. leave them undecoded into plain characters). This feature will be utilized > by translation teams and was successfuly tested against Russian and Japanese > Translation Projects. > > Also add simple hack to not to display annoying "Can't open ~/.tidyrc" warning > message in case if ~/.tidyrc file missing. > > Bump PORTREVISION. > > Approved by: Scott Kenney (maintainer) > Tested by: myself, hrs > > Revision Changes Path > 1.1 +43 -0 ports/www/tidy/files/patch-ac (new) > 1.1 +18 -0 ports/www/tidy/files/patch-ad (new) > 1.1 +24 -0 ports/www/tidy/files/patch-ae (new) > 1.1 +37 -0 ports/www/tidy/files/patch-af (new) > 1.1 +20 -0 ports/www/tidy/files/patch-ag (new) > 1.1 +11 -0 ports/www/tidy/files/patch-ah (new) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 22 11:56: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9AB37B405; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:55:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5482666B74; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:55:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:55:53 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Siegbert Baude Cc: Kris Kennaway , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: src/crypto/ vs. src/secure -> make buildworld fails Message-ID: <20011122115553.A29254@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3BFBF0FF.2D64FEBE@gmx.de> <20011121130204.A22237@xor.obsecurity.org> <00f301c17356$8d5abbc0$4011a8c0@wohnheim.uniulm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00f301c17356$8d5abbc0$4011a8c0@wohnheim.uniulm.de>; from Siegbert.Baude@gmx.de on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 02:06:51PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 02:06:51PM +0100, Siegbert Baude wrote: > Hi Kris and Ruslan, > thanks for the explanation. >=20 > I wrote: > >> as I want to strip down my system, I cvsupped today without > src/secure > >> as the handbook > >> > (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html) > >> for src/secure only reads: DES and I don't need DES. >=20 > Kris wrote: > > That list is out of date. >=20 > So I added the doc@freebsd.org in hope to reach the relevant people. > Should I file a PR in addition? If you dont hear anything, yes. > > The src-secure collection is the build > > framework for all of the cryptographic utilities in FreeBSD including > > openssl, openssh, and crypto support for other utilities like ppp and > > tcpdump. It's paired with src-crypto; if you don't want any of it, > > either remove the secure/ and crypto/ directories, or set NOSECURE=3Dfoo > > in your /etc/make.conf. >=20 > Damn, I only grepped for DES in defaults/make.conf . My bad, next time I > will have a closer look. >=20 > BTW, if src-crypto and src-secure depend on each other and make > buildworld will fail, if one is missing, why are they two different > collections and not one single? Same reason src-contrib is different from src-* Kris --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/VhIWry0BWjoQKURAgfmAKCdG+noaLLVGdE7j5WbdvZe1z32/wCZAc8G Gd0FE9CVyIvpFY1saX20hL4= =7AAE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 22 17:40:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B773B37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 735DE14C4E; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:40:36 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports Makefile article.sgml References: <200111230101.fAN11pj06499@freefall.freebsd.org> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 23 Nov 2001 02:40:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200111230101.fAN11pj06499@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > Log: > Add an article about writing good problem reports. It's a little thin in > places, but I think it's a good start. I'll connect it to the build once > it's been reviewed by the appropriate people. I'd like to get some feedback about the markup here - it's the first time I more than just a few paragraphs in DocBook, and I'm sure to have messed something up. I'll connect the article to the doc build once I'm satisfied that it's fairly palatable both from a content and a markup point of view. I'm particularly interested in suggestions about improving the connectivity to and from the article (i.e. adding index terms and adding links to other related documents). DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 22 22:28:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hi.com (tc72-79.dialup.seed.net.tw [210.244.72.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E5A337B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:28:13 -0800 (PST) From: rOjcUQLQhxqEc5e@tcts1.seed.net.tw To: 9be1y@tpts8.seed.net.tw Subject: * * *  狾 е 患 * * * gjRPcUteXJYtEi X-Mailer: ZlksU1EW43kF56uZX Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-Id: <20011123062813.9E5A337B418@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:28:13 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ***=A5x _=C6W _=B4=AB _=A9d _=AD=D1 _=BC=D6_ =B3=A1*** : http://210.64.184.194/=A4J=B7|=BB=A1=A9=FA=C0=C9.exe ***=C2=C5 _=A4=D1_ =B8=C9_ =A9=AB _=A4u_ =A7@ _=AB=C7 _=B3=CC_ =B7s _=A5=D8 _=BF=FD *** : http://210.64.184.203/=B3=CC=B7s=B8=C9=A9=AB=A5=D8=BF=FD.exe ****=A5=BB _=ABH_=A5=D1 _=AB=C2=A4O=B6=C7=BC=BD_ =A5N _=AC=B0 _ =B5o_ =B0e**** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 0:35:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (www.freebsd.cz [195.113.19.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94D637B41A; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:35:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (horcicka@localhost) by dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAN8Zlr76269; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:35:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from horcicka@FreeBSD.cz) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:35:47 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Horcicka X-X-Sender: To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: , , , Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/www/tidy/files patch-ac patch-ad patch-ae patch-af patch-ag patch-ah In-Reply-To: <20011122174027.A33669@ark.cris.net> Message-ID: <20011123092432.C76088-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Alexey Zelkin (2001-11-22 17:40 +0200): > I am going to update TIDYFLAGS in www/ and doc/ (ru_RU.KOI8-R) trees to > utilize '-preserve' option within few days. I also think Japanese people > will also do same thing. So, everybody who want to avoid misterious > breaks of doc/ and www/ trees build in non-English area need to upgrade > tidy(1). the -preserve option has solved many problems - I am not sure if I have not missed something but I guess that the "-preserve -raw" combination should work well for every possible language and charset. If this idea is true one setting in shared makefile could be the solution forever. Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 0:42:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from emout1.wish.nl (emout1.wish.nl [212.123.129.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AC637B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:42:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.inside.servers (mail1.INSIDE.servers [10.1.0.5]) by emout1.wish.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id E15B920B7B for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:06:37 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 24321 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 08:42:38 -0000 Received: from p11298.nl.wish.net (HELO ) ([212.123.182.34]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.outside.servers (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Nov 2001 08:42:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 13454 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Nov 2001 08:43:38 -0000 From: "Andre Goeree" Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:43:38 +0100 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: cvsup deletes *.png files created by peps Message-ID: <20011123094338.A12862@mandark.attica.home> Reply-To: abgoeree@wish.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Sender: abgoeree@wish.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello -doc, I am not sure whether this subject has come up in this list before as I am not subscribed to this list (and did not bother to search the archives). Whenever I cvsup the doc tree the following happens: ----------------------------------------------------------- *** Starting cvsup at 09:07:13 Parsing supfile "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/doc-supfile" Connecting to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org Connected to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org Server software version: SNAP_16_1e Negotiating file attribute support Exchanging collection information Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection Running Updating collection doc-all/cvs Delete doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking/isdn-bus.png Delete doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking/isdn-twisted-pair.png Delete doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking/natd.png Shutting down connection to server Finished successfully *** Finished cvsup at 09:07:29 ----------------------------------------------------------- The files isdn-{bus,twisted-pair}.png and natd.png where once part of the doc tree but are dead now. However these filenames are still used. This causes the handbook to be compiled every time, even when there are no changes to this part of the tree. Since the handbook is the biggest part of the doc tree and takes considerable time to compile (at least on my PII350/128:), this is getting a bit annoying:( The easiest fix to this problem would be to rename the files isdn-{bus,twisted-pair}.png, natd.png to something that is not dead. Should I file a PR about this? Please CC replies to my address as I am not subscribed to this list. -ago To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 1:36: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C200B37B418 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:35:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a170.otenet.gr [212.205.215.170]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAN9ZpY00137; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:35:51 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAN9ZpH09226; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:35:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:35:51 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Andre Goeree Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup deletes *.png files created by peps Message-ID: <20011123093550.GA8975@hades.hell.gr> References: <20011123094338.A12862@mandark.attica.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011123094338.A12862@mandark.attica.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-11-23 09:43:38, Andre Goeree wrote: > Hello -doc, > > I am not sure whether this subject has come up in this list before as > I am not subscribed to this list (and did not bother to search the > archives). > > Whenever I cvsup the doc tree the following happens: > ----------------------------------------------------------- > *** Starting cvsup at 09:07:13 > > Parsing supfile "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/doc-supfile" > Connecting to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org > Connected to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org > Server software version: SNAP_16_1e > Negotiating file attribute support > Exchanging collection information > Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection > Running > Updating collection doc-all/cvs > Delete doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking/isdn-bus.png > Delete doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking/isdn-twisted-pair.png > Delete doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking/natd.png *default delete That's what does this, I think. I haven't used CVSup to update the sources for a while, since I copy the entire repository, and use `cvs up' locally to check out changes. Perhaps you will find it more useful to grab the doc/ tree in a local CVS repository, and then check out what versions of the documents you like :) -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 7: 0: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BE837B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fANF02902466; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:00:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111231500.fANF02902466@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/32117: Change Washington, DC User Group Listing Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32117; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Rob Simmons Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32117: Change Washington, DC User Group Listing Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:55:43 +0200 On 2001-11-19 17:58:31, Rob Simmons wrote: > Please adjust the text to read: > Washington DC (DC Metropolitan Area) FreeBSD User Group. Please contact > Richard Cramer, Sytex Access Ltd. at 703-425-2515, or preferred, email > at rcramer@sytex.net to be put on a member distribution list. Hello Rob, Does the following SGML'ification of the changes look OK to you? Index: support.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/support.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.244 diff -u -2 -r1.244 support.sgml --- support.sgml 8 Nov 2001 23:57:36 -0000 1.244 +++ support.sgml 23 Nov 2001 14:52:29 -0000 @@ -717,10 +717,9 @@
  • Washington DC (DC Metropolitan Area) - FreeBSD User Group is now forming. Please contact Richard Cramer, - Sytex Access Ltd. at 703-425-2515, or preferred, email at rcramer@sytex.net to be put on a - member distribution list. Initial meeting to be held in May. -

    • - + FreeBSD User Group. Please contact Richard Cramer, + Sytex Access Ltd. at 703-425-2515, or preferred, email at + rcramer@sytex.net to be put on a member distribution list. +

    +
  • Wichita, Kansas: A new FreeBSD users group has been created in Wichita, Ks. We are fairly new and working To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 7: 9:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6737F37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 705684B65D; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:09:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:09:23 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Jean-Francois Dockes Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound subsystem chapter for the developers handbook Message-ID: <20011123070923.V27929@windriver.com> References: <15356.46562.665297.828958@hautmedoc.dockes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gmhhrsDozM2n+uz5" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15356.46562.665297.828958@hautmedoc.dockes.com>; from jean-francois.dockes@wanadoo.fr on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 09:22:58AM +0100 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --gmhhrsDozM2n+uz5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 09:22:58AM +0100, Jean-Francois Dockes wrote: > I have written a 'Sound subsystem' chapter for the developers handbook. Excellent work. I'd like to get this committed to the Developers Handbook soon. I found a couple of minor grammar nits, and several instances where markup should be changed into something more descriptive. I started the diff here but didn't make a complete pass through the document because I think you can finish where I started. This uses , , , , etc in place of all the tags. Thanks, - Murray --- chapter.orig Fri Nov 23 06:53:35 2001 +++ chapter.sgml Fri Nov 23 07:04:45 2001 @@ -11,8 +11,8 @@ Introduction =20 The FreeBSD sound subsystem cleanly separates generic - sound handling issues from device-specific ones. This eases - adding support for new hardware. + sound handling issues from device-specific ones. This makes it + easier to add support for new hardware. =20 The &man.pcm.4; framework is the central piece of the sound subsystem. It mainly implements the following elements: @@ -42,10 +42,10 @@ =20 The support for specific sound cards is implemented by hardware-specific drivers, which provide channel and mixer interfaces - to plug into the generic pcm code. + to plug into the generic pcm code. =20 - In the following of this document, the - pcm term will refer to the central, common + In this chapter, the term + pcm will refer to the central, common part of the sound driver, as opposed to the hardware-specific modules. =20 @@ -94,8 +94,8 @@ =20 They declare themselves as pcm - class devices, with a struct - snddev_info device private structure: + class devices, with a struct + snddev_info device private structure: static driver_t xxx_driver =3D { "pcm", @@ -110,8 +110,8 @@ private information about their device. A private data structure is usually allocated in the attach routine. Its address is passed to pcm by the - calls to pcm_register() and - mixer_init(). pcm + calls to pcm_register() and + mixer_init(). pcm later passes back this address as a parameter in calls to the sound driver interfaces. @@ -119,10 +119,10 @@ The sound driver attach routine should declare its MIXER or AC97 interface to pcm by - calling mixer_init(). For a MIXER + calling mixer_init(). For a MIXER interface, this causes in turn a call to - xxxmixer_init(). + xxxmixer_init(). =20 =20 @@ -130,18 +130,18 @@ The sound driver attach routine declares its general CHANNEL configuration to pcm by calling - pcm_register(dev, sc, nplay, nrec), - where sc is the address for the device + pcm_register(dev, sc, nplay, nrec), + where sc is the address for the device data structure, used in further calls from pcm, and - nplay and nrec are + nplay and nrec are the number of play and record channels. =20 The sound driver attach routine declares each of its channel objects by calls to - pcm_addchan(). This sets up the + pcm_addchan(). This sets up the channel glue in pcm and causes in turn a call to @@ -150,7 +150,7 @@ =20 The sound driver detach routine should call - pcm_unregister() before releasing its + pcm_unregister() before releasing its resources.=20 @@ -174,7 +174,9 @@ =20 =20 pcm drivers should implement - device_suspend, device_resume and device_shutdown routines, so + device_suspend, + device_resume and + device_shutdown routines, so that power management and module unloading function correctly. =20 --gmhhrsDozM2n+uz5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/maitNcQog5FH30RAhsVAJ0ZGw4RUiNBpaa2An4Um1Xgl7iZVgCgu3f6 VepQA3TSvlfwIwdeHy9D7oQ= =B6+Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gmhhrsDozM2n+uz5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 7:17:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D8037B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id E7AE54B65D; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:17:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:17:14 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Marc Silver Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A guide to securing FreeBSD 4.x -STABLE ?? Message-ID: <20011123071714.W27929@windriver.com> References: <20011122110554.A44408@draenor.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vTfKKTivj/mQoluA" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011122110554.A44408@draenor.org>; from marcs@draenor.org on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:05:54AM +0000 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --vTfKKTivj/mQoluA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:05:54AM +0000, Marc Silver wrote: > I'd like to request comment/flames/suggestions regarding it, since the > contents are based purely on my experiences and needs. Any insight or > even alternate views are welcome. This looks like a nice article, and I notice that we don't have any other articles on securing a FreeBSD system at http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html (although we do have a chapter of the Handbook dedicated to this). =20 All of our documentation is maintained in DocBook SGML. This gives us many benefits, not the least of which is the ability to generate many different output formats from a single source document. If someone helps convert this document to DocBook SGML, will you still be able to help keep it updated? Have you read through our Doc Project Primer for new contributors? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/ Thanks, - Murray --vTfKKTivj/mQoluA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/mh6tNcQog5FH30RAiKDAJ9/erMYplpFZdBKUJxFjjBPlUEWSQCfVLxQ 4D84AFmmzbSC/e+/cdhbkbI= =mHt5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vTfKKTivj/mQoluA-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 7:39:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE5B37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 6AC224B65D; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:39:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:39:11 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports Makefile article.sgml Message-ID: <20011123073911.X27929@windriver.com> References: <200111230101.fAN11pj06499@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HxQt9wRz9wbL5Edg" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from des@ofug.org on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 02:40:35AM +0100 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --HxQt9wRz9wbL5Edg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 02:40:35AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > > Add an article about writing good problem reports. It's a little thi= n in > > places, but I think it's a good start. I'll connect it to the build = once > > it's been reviewed by the appropriate people. >=20 > I'd like to get some feedback about the markup here - it's the first > time I more than just a few paragraphs in DocBook, and I'm sure to > have messed something up. I'll connect the article to the doc build > once I'm satisfied that it's fairly palatable both from a content and > a markup point of view. The content and markup of the article look great. I just noticed one misspelling of "enhancements" but everything else looked very nice. > I'm particularly interested in suggestions about improving the > connectivity to and from the article (i.e. adding index terms and > adding links to other related documents). Currently, we only have support for a per-document index, although I hope we will implement a global index of our entire documentation set sometime soon. You should add a cross-reference for the "Contributing to FreeBSD" article somewhere, since that document goes into more detail about submitting patches to the source tree, etc (and the Developer's Handbook goes into even more). Thanks, - Murray --HxQt9wRz9wbL5Edg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/m2etNcQog5FH30RAoLKAKCLGvY12aY+l2R+9IeBYlkYj9gt5gCgn+sD h2i3zT2ngyhr3TTfnSe+p28= =0IXi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HxQt9wRz9wbL5Edg-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 8:10:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB8B37B41B for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fANGA0733799; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:10:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from amd.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375AE37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by amd.stokely.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fANG0L951427; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:00:21 GMT (envelope-from murray) Message-Id: <200111231600.fANG0L951427@amd.stokely.org> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:00:21 GMT From: murray@freebsd.org Reply-To: murray@freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32229: Omission from Handbook Chapter 17.8 (DHCP) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32229 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Omission from Handbook Chapter 17.8 (DHCP) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 23 08:10:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: WRS >Environment: System: FreeBSD amd.stokely.org 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #1: Wed Oct 10 04:30:17 PDT 2001 murray@amd.stokely.org:/.amd_mnt/mao/host/a/4/src/sys/compile/AMD i386 >Description: The DHCP section of the Handbook just talks about setting up a FreeBSD system as a DHCP client, which is very easy and not as useful as a section on setting up a DHCP server. Both should be covered in this section. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Someone could write up a small section on running a DHCP server on FreeBSD. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 9:36:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx0.grolier.fr (relay.grolier.fr [194.158.96.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F5D37B419; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from hautmedoc.dockes.com (bas33-157.idf.w.club-internet.fr [212.194.25.157]) by mx0.grolier.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C22C52D; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:36:39 +0100 (CET) Received: (from dockes@localhost) by hautmedoc.dockes.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fANHadq18121; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:36:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dockes) From: Jean-Francois Dockes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15358.35110.946306.349013@hautmedoc.dockes.com> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:36:38 +0100 To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound subsystem chapter for the developers handbook In-Reply-To: <20011123070923.V27929@windriver.com> References: <15356.46562.665297.828958@hautmedoc.dockes.com> <20011123070923.V27929@windriver.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Murray Stokely writes: > I found a couple of minor grammar nits, and several instances where > markup should be changed into something more descriptive. > I started the diff here but didn't make a complete pass through the > document because I think you can finish where I started. Ok, I think I replaced most tags. I updated the files: HTML: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dockes/developers-handbook/oss.html Source: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dockes/developers-handbook/sound/chapter.sgml Suggested patch for Makefile, etc..: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dockes/developers-handbook/sound/dhb.patch JF To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 10:36:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from news.lucky.net (news.lucky.net [193.193.193.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B472237B41A for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by news.lucky.net (8.Who.Cares/8.Who.Cares) id UOD32361 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:36:47 +0200 (envelope-from artem@inobject.com) From: "Artem Zagorulko" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Unicode Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:09:20 +0200 Organization: Fidolook Express 2.000 www.fidolook.da.ru Message-ID: <9tll8n$5rg$1@bn.utel.com.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: bn.utel.com.ua 1006524503 6000 212.113.40.176 (23 Nov 2001 14:08:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: postmaster@utel.net.ua X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Fidolook Express 2.000 for MS OE5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 1971401476 Hi, all! I use g++ 2.95.3 and need to work with unicode:(. But there are no functions like a swprintf(), swscanf(), fwprintf() ets. Does it receive with newest version of g++. If not what do I have to do? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 11: 4:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABC937B41D; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:03:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id E041E4B65D; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:03:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:03:53 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Jean-Francois Dockes Cc: Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound subsystem chapter for the developers handbook Message-ID: <20011123110353.A27929@windriver.com> References: <15356.46562.665297.828958@hautmedoc.dockes.com> <20011123070923.V27929@windriver.com> <15358.35110.946306.349013@hautmedoc.dockes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Pk/CTwBz1VvfPIDp" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15358.35110.946306.349013@hautmedoc.dockes.com>; from jean-francois.dockes@wanadoo.fr on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 06:36:38PM +0100 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Pk/CTwBz1VvfPIDp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 06:36:38PM +0100, Jean-Francois Dockes wrote: > Ok, I think I replaced most tags. I updated the files: >=20 > HTML: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dockes/developers-handbook/oss.html > Source: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dockes/developers-handbook/sound/chapter.= sgml > Suggested patch for Makefile, etc..:=20 > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dockes/developers-handbook/sound/dhb.pa= tch I've committed your document with the following changes : * We try to avoid a new line immediately after opening a . * There was a missing . * I added a to give you credit for writing this chapter. * I took away the leading two spaces from many lines in this file, so that the opening starts on column 0 instead of column 2. 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    ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C17498.27B74DE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 11:30:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9300E37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:30:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 742984B65D; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:30:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:30:32 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Jackal Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: I want to learn FreeBSD Message-ID: <20011123113032.B27929@windriver.com> References: <000801c17455$1a06a5d0$3f19df3d@angel> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OwXh6gFRjCd3qPCM" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000801c17455$1a06a5d0$3f19df3d@angel>; from jackal.gu@msa.hinet.net on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 03:28:59AM +0800 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --OwXh6gFRjCd3qPCM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is not a list for questions. Please familiarize yourself with the FreeBSD Documentation (http://www.FreeBSD.org/docs.html) and then post any specific questions to an appropriate forum, such as questions@FreeBSD.org. Thanks, - Murray On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 03:28:59AM +0800, Jackal wrote: > Concern: > I am a newbie in Unix-like system, but I want to learn and use this wel= l, so I hope I could to join all the develop about FreeBSD or I could to en= umerate the problem during I learn FreeBSD.=20 > Wish you can give me the chance. >=20 > yours sincerely >=20 > Jackal > From Taiwan > 2001. 11. 24 --OwXh6gFRjCd3qPCM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/qPXtNcQog5FH30RAteTAJ0XvLo8bMiw5si3gnygohpr5jj3kQCfdQqg UfKHmus4RPNHrAWlGYMfbCE= =uLcT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OwXh6gFRjCd3qPCM-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 13:29:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7EC37B416; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:29:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dougb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fANLRhE66059; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:27:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dougb) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:27:43 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111232127.fANLRhE66059@freefall.freebsd.org> To: schweikh@schweikhardt.net, dougb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dougb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/25648: typos in some manpages (dependant) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typos in some manpages (dependant) State-Changed-From-To: analyzed->closed State-Changed-By: dougb State-Changed-When: Fri Nov 23 13:26:07 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Asmo's excellent suggestion that the originator send the typo information to bind-bugs@isc.org did not make it into the audit trail, so here you go. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dougb Responsible-Changed-By: dougb Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Nov 23 13:26:07 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: I closed the PR. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25648 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 13:46:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from riffraff.plig.net (riffraff.plig.net [195.40.6.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCAA37B405; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by riffraff.plig.net (Postfix, from userid 3010) id 96BE747B18; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:46:37 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:46:37 +0000 From: Marc Silver To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A guide to securing FreeBSD 4.x -STABLE ?? Message-ID: <20011123214637.V7882@draenor.org> References: <20011122110554.A44408@draenor.org> <20011123071714.W27929@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011123071714.W27929@windriver.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 07:17:14AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 07:17:14AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > This looks like a nice article, and I notice that we don't have any > other articles on securing a FreeBSD system at > http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html (although we do have a chapter of the > Handbook dedicated to this). I'd certainly like to have it up as an article, and possibly include parts of it that are good enough into the handbook? It all depends on how you feel? The feedback from the FreeBSD-security list has been limited to personal replies to me, but have all been very positive, so I dont think there's anything _too_ wrong with the document, besides the fact that it still needs some work in my eyes. > All of our documentation is maintained in DocBook SGML. This gives > us many benefits, not the least of which is the ability to generate > many different output formats from a single source document. If > someone helps convert this document to DocBook SGML, will you still be > able to help keep it updated? Have you read through our Doc Project > Primer for new contributors? The article 'Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD' was written by me about a year ago, and was converted from HTML to Docbook by Nik Clayton for me if I recall correctly, and I have maintained it since by sending changes I've made to the document in the form of patches with 'send-pr'. My Docbook knowledge isn't strong enough for me to start this document from scratch, but if someone could convert it to Docbook, I could certainly learn try and learn some Docbook in that time, and could maintain and develop the document in the future. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/ Thanks... I will check this out... - Marc -- I've learned that being kind is more important than being right. -- Andy Rooney To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 15:16:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21107.mail.yahoo.com (web21107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 617FC37B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:16:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011123231648.54160.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.4] by web21107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:16:48 PST Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:16:48 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: A guide to securing FreeBSD 4.x -STABLE ?? To: Murray Stokely Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20011123071714.W27929@windriver.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi murray, i dont mind converting it to SGML, once i am done with my Apache Web Server chapter... how bout that...? thanks.. regards... Hiten Pandya.... --- Murray Stokely wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:05:54AM +0000, Marc > Silver wrote: > > I'd like to request comment/flames/suggestions > regarding it, since the > > contents are based purely on my experiences and > needs. Any insight or > > even alternate views are welcome. > > This looks like a nice article, and I notice that > we don't have any > other articles on securing a FreeBSD system at > http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html (although we do > have a chapter of the > Handbook dedicated to this). > > All of our documentation is maintained in DocBook > SGML. This gives > us many benefits, not the least of which is the > ability to generate > many different output formats from a single source > document. If > someone helps convert this document to DocBook SGML, > will you still be > able to help keep it updated? Have you read through > our Doc Project > Primer for new contributors? > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/ > > Thanks, > > - Murray > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature ===== regards, Hiten Pandya ---------------------------------------------------- Guys!... stay away from Einstein Junior! ---------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 15:23:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21107.mail.yahoo.com (web21107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D5BC737B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:23:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011123232323.55000.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.4] by web21107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:23:23 PST Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:23:23 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: I want to learn FreeBSD To: Jackal Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <000801c17455$1a06a5d0$3f19df3d@angel> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi jackal, no offense.. but if you are new to the "UNIX-like" environment.. than i suggest that you go through the handbook a couple of times... and once you feel comfortable about the environment... than... set your mind completely free... and then start thinking about development for this system.... how i have started to help out on this project is.. by learning enough ;) about FreeBSD first... from release 4.2 all the way to 4.4, and then... trying to go through the developer's handbook... after that... i joined the lists and thought about helping out in problems that i have personally faced with FreeBSD, when i was a newbie... but after i have reached the near-to-intermediate stage... i think i can start to go over various things in the source tree... although you need a competing knowledge of C, which can be also found in the famous book, "The C Programming Language",.. and if you think that is tense for you.. not to worry... you can help out in the documentation department... (not exactly a department).... so... welcome aboard... and.. ENJOY! regards, Hiten Pandya --- Jackal wrote: > Concern: > I am a newbie in Unix-like system, but I want to > learn and use this well, so I hope I could to join > all the develop about FreeBSD or I could to > enumerate the problem during I learn FreeBSD. > Wish you can give me the chance. > > yours sincerely > > Jackal > From > Taiwan > 2001. 11. > 24 > ===== regards, Hiten Pandya ---------------------------------------------------- Guys!... stay away from Einstein Junior! ---------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 18:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD9237B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAO2o2v17609; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111240250.fAO2o2v17609@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Andrew Subject: Re: docs/31925: Be a bit more descriptive about realloc's usage Reply-To: Andrew Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31925; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Andrew To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31925: Be a bit more descriptive about realloc's usage Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:47:49 +1000 (EST) On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > thanks for pointing this out. A very usual cause of bugs when > realloc() is used is to assume that realloc() returns the same value > passed as a parameter :) Yes I have to admit it bit me...even though I did know that from last time I used realloc :-) > portion of memory' to refer to the result of realloc(3). What do you > think of the following diff, which is derived from your changes? Yep I think thats great. Thanks, Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 19: 0: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4405037B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAO302E18313; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:00:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111240300.fAO302E18313@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Rob Simmons Subject: Re: docs/32117: Change Washington, DC User Group Listing Reply-To: Rob Simmons Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32117; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Rob Simmons To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32117: Change Washington, DC User Group Listing Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:52:00 -0500 (EST) Yes, that looks fine. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 19:19:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB76337B416; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:19:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAO3DWY22449; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:13:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:13:32 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111240313.fAO3DWY22449@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andrew@ugh.net.au, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31925: Be a bit more descriptive about realloc's usage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Be a bit more descriptive about realloc's usage State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Fri Nov 23 19:12:28 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed to -CURRENT. Thank you Andrew :) http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31925 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 19:19:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D26C37B417; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAO3Hdv22897; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:17:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:17:39 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111240317.fAO3Hdv22897@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rsimmons@mail.wlcg.com, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32117: Change Washington, DC User Group Listing Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Change Washington, DC User Group Listing State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Fri Nov 23 19:16:43 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Changes have been applied. They should become visible to the website in less than 24 hours. Thanks :) http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32117 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 23 21:40:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7593D37B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAO5e1N40212; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mail.acns.ab.ca (h24-64-56-135.cg.shawcable.net [24.64.56.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FB737B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:39:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from colnta.acns.ab.ca (colnta.acns.ab.ca [192.168.1.2]) by mail.acns.ab.ca (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAO5dcb87276 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:39:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from davidc@colnta.acns.ab.ca) Received: (from davidc@localhost) by colnta.acns.ab.ca (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAO5dcr86823; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:39:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from davidc) Message-Id: <200111240539.fAO5dcr86823@colnta.acns.ab.ca> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:39:38 -0700 (MST) From: Chad David Reply-To: Chad David To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32241: vm_page_alloc.9 rewrite Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32241 >Category: docs >Synopsis: vm_page_alloc.9 rewrite >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 23 21:40:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chad David >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: ACNS Inc. >Environment: System: FreeBSD colnta 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #9: Tue Nov 20 16:38:27 MST 2001 davidc@colnta:/mnt1/obj/usr/src/sys/COLNTA i386 >Description: The vm_page_alloc.9 man page is crap (I'm allowed to say that because I wrote it). >How-To-Repeat: man vm_page_alloc >Fix: Apply this patch. --- ../../src/share/man/man9/vm_page_alloc.9 Wed Jul 18 00:09:13 2001 +++ vm_page_alloc.9 Fri Nov 23 22:02:59 2001 @@ -31,7 +31,7 @@ .Os .Sh NAME .Nm vm_page_alloc -.Nd "allocates a page for the object and index" +.Nd "allocate a page for a vm_object" .Sh SYNOPSIS .In sys/param.h .In vm/vm.h @@ -41,34 +41,36 @@ .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Fn vm_page_alloc -function allocates a page for -.Fa pindex -in the VM object -.Fa object . -It is assumed that a page has not already been allocated for +function allocates a page at .Fa pindex -and +within .Fa object . +It is assumed that a page has not already been allocated at +.Fa pindex . +The page returned is inserted into the object, but is not inserted +into the pmap. .Pp -The .Fn vm_page_alloc -function will not block. +will not block. .Pp Its arguments are: .Bl -tag -width ".Fa page_req" .It Fa object The VM object to allocate the page for. .It Fa pindex -The index of the page that should be allocated. +The index into the object at which the page should be inserted. .It Fa page_req A flag indicating how the page should be allocated. .Bl -tag -width ".Dv VM_ALLOC_INTERRUPT" .It Dv VM_ALLOC_NORMAL The page should be allocated with no special treatment. .It Dv VM_ALLOC_SYSTEM -The page can be allocated even if the buffer cache queue is empty -and the free count is above the interrupt reserved water mark. -This should be used only when the system really needs the page. +The page can be allocated if the cache is empty and the free page +count is above the interrupt reserved water mark. 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Within a few days you will receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5 reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. Also make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your computer. IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other than what is instructed below in step '' 1 through 6 '' or you will lose out on majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter, it will NOT work !!! People have tried to put their friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, we all have tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to change anything other than what is instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!! 1.... After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune. 2.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT # 5. 3.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT # 4. 4.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT # 3. 5.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT # 2 6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position. PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY! ========================================================== **** Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well just in case you lose any data. To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: METHOD # 1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY ========================================================== Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will assume You and those involved send out only 5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% response (the response could be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2%. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands e-mails instead of only 5,000 each). Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails. With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for report # 1. Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That's=100 people responded and ordered Report # 2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 1000 orders for Report # 3. Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5 million e-mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5 THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH=$500,000.00 (half million). Your total income in this example is: 1..... $50 + 2..... $500 + 3.....$5,000 + 4.... $50,000 + 5..... $500,000 ....... Grand Total=$555,550.00 NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGUREOUT THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY ! ========================================================= REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone or half or even one 4th of those people mailed 100,000e-mails each or more? There are over 150 million people on the Internet worldwide and counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! METHOD # 2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET ======================================================= Advertising on the net is very very inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free ads on the Internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with Method # 1 and add METHOD # 2 as you go along. For every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. That's it. Always provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with your name and address on it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they receive the report. =========== AVAILABLE REPORTS ==================== ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each Report. Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least 2 sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and postal address. PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW : ==================================================== REPORT# 1: The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net Order Report #1 from: Mar靉 Luz Ruiz P.O Box 3279-1000 San Jos, Costa Rica Am閞ica Central _____________________________________________ REPORT # 2: The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk e-mail on the Net Order Report # 2 from: Nada Mahmood P.O. Box 5385 Manama, Bahrain Arabian Gulf _________________________________________________________ REPORT # 3: Secret to Multilevel Marketing on the Net Order Report # 3 from : Kamalarora m237,Vikaspuri, Newdelhi_110018 India ___________________________________________________________ REPORT # 4: How to Become a Millionaire Utilizing MLM & the Net Order Report # 4 from: Mahdokht Kaz 1175 Road 6025 Zinj 360, Bahrain Arabian Gulf ____________________________________________________________ REPORT #5: How to Send Out 0ne Million e-mails for Free Order Report # 5 from: P. Condinho 2549 Mason Heights Mississauga, Ontario L5B 2S3, Canada ____________________________________________________________ $$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES $$$$$$$$$$$ Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: === If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2 weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. === After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that you should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT # 2. If you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. === Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report # 2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in ! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in front of a Different report. You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business !!! ====================================================== FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: You have just received information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the next few weeks and months than you have ever imagined. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you have put your name and address in Report #1 and moved others to #2 ...........#5 as instructed above. One of the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or more e-mails and your name will be on every one of them. Remember though, the more you send out the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent. IT IS UP TO YOU NOW ! ============ MORE TESTIMONIALS ================ "My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good money. When I received this program I grumbled to Jody about receiving ''junk mail''. I made fun of the whole thing,spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I ''knew'' it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few days later she jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old ''I told you so'' on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she had Received total $ 147,200.00 ........... all cash! I was shocked. I have joined Jody in her ''hobby''. Mitchell Wolf M.D., Chicago, Illinois ====================================================== ''Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back''. '' I was surprised when I found my medium size post office box crammed with orders. I made $319,210.00in the first 12 weeks. The nice thing about this deal is that it does not matter where people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return and so big." Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada ======================================================= ''I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed again by someone else.........11 months passed then it luckily came again...... I did not delete this one! I made more than $490,000 on my first try and all the money came within 22 weeks." Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y. ======================================================= ''It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money with little cost to you. I followed the simple instructions carefully and within 10 days the money started to come in. My first month I made $20,560.00 and by the end of third month my total cash count was $362,840.00. Life is beautiful, Thanx to internet.". Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand ======================================================= ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON 'YOUR' ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM ! ======================================================= If you have any questions of the legality of this program, contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices, Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington, D.C. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 24 3:19:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D2B37B417; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAOBAfO62411; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:10:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:10:41 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111241110.fAOBAfO62411@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wilko@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bin/31719: ftpd(8) could use improved security explanation Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Old Synopsis: New Synopsis: ftpd(8) could use improved security explanation Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->doc Responsible-Changed-By: wilko Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Nov 24 03:07:35 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: PR suggests man page improvement http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31719 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 24 7:30: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFD537B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 07:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAOFU1C29336; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 07:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from heechee.tobez.org (254.adsl0.ryv.worldonline.dk [213.237.10.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B3C37B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 07:28:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by heechee.tobez.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8DCD25421; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:28:02 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20011124152802.8DCD25421@heechee.tobez.org> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:28:02 +0100 (CET) From: Anton Berezin Reply-To: Anton Berezin To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32252: kvm_getfiles.3 says `processes' where it should have said `files' Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32252 >Category: docs >Synopsis: kvm_getfiles.3 says `processes' where it should have said `files' >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Nov 24 07:30:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Anton Berezin >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: catpipe Systems ApS >Environment: System: FreeBSD heechee.tobez.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Fri Nov 16 01:36:51 CET 2001 root@heechee.tobez.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/heechee i386 >Description: subj. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: kvm_getfiles.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_getfiles.3,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -r1.11 kvm_getfiles.3 --- kvm_getfiles.3 1 Oct 2001 16:09:16 -0000 1.11 +++ kvm_getfiles.3 24 Nov 2001 15:24:57 -0000 @@ -64,7 +64,7 @@ arguments constitute a predicate which limits the set of files returned. No predicates are currently defined. .Pp -The number of processes found is returned in the reference parameter +The number of files found is returned in the reference parameter .Fa cnt . 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<20011125002117.B580@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, What do you think about the attached patch that adds a "Other resources" section to your article on writing problem reports, and includes a link to Simon G. Tatham's wonderful essay on submitting problem reports? G'luck, Peter -- What would this sentence be like if pi were 3? Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 article.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/article.sgml 23 Nov 2001 21:13:13 -0000 1.6 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/article.sgml 24 Nov 2001 22:16:15 -0000 @@ -491,4 +491,21 @@ above) saying that the problem report can be closed, and, if possible, explaining how or when the problem was fixed. + + + Other resources + + This is a list of resources relevant to the proper submitting + and processing of problem reports. It is by no means complete. + + + + + How to Report Bugs Effectively - an excellent + essay on submitting useful (non-FreeBSD-specific) problem reports + by Simon G. Tatham. + + + To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 24 14:38:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB50B37B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id E9DE814C52; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:38:26 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Peter Pentchev Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Add an "Other resources" section to the problem reports article References: <20011125002117.B580@straylight.oblivion.bg> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 24 Nov 2001 23:38:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20011125002117.B580@straylight.oblivion.bg> Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Pentchev writes: > What do you think about the attached patch that adds a "Other resources" > section to your article on writing problem reports, and includes a link > to Simon G. Tatham's wonderful essay on submitting problem reports? I have a few amendments: - change the title to "Further Reading" - change the section ID to "pr-further" - change "submitting" to "writing" - move "by Simon G. Tatham" to right after "essay" DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 24 14:48:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (discworld.nanolink.com [217.75.135.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9653F37B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:48:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1658 invoked by uid 1000); 24 Nov 2001 22:46:18 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:46:18 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Add an "Other resources" section to the problem reports article Message-ID: <20011125004618.C580@straylight.oblivion.bg> References: <20011125002117.B580@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from des@ofug.org on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 11:38:26PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 11:38:26PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Peter Pentchev writes: > > What do you think about the attached patch that adds a "Other resources" > > section to your article on writing problem reports, and includes a link > > to Simon G. Tatham's wonderful essay on submitting problem reports? > > I have a few amendments: > > - change the title to "Further Reading" > - change the section ID to "pr-further" > - change "submitting" to "writing" > - move "by Simon G. Tatham" to right after "essay" Okay, updated patch attached. I was not quite sure which instance of 'submitting' you had in mind, so I changed both in different ways :) Also, I removed the dot after the 'G' in Simon G. Tatham, since some browsers place additional whitespace after it. G'luck, Peter -- I am the meaning of this sentence. Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 article.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/article.sgml 23 Nov 2001 21:13:13 -0000 1.6 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/article.sgml 24 Nov 2001 22:42:44 -0000 @@ -491,4 +491,21 @@ above) saying that the problem report can be closed, and, if possible, explaining how or when the problem was fixed. + + + Further Reading + + This is a list of resources relevant to the proper writing + and processing of problem reports. It is by no means complete. + + + + + How to Report Bugs Effectively - an excellent + essay by Simon G Tatham on composing useful (non-FreeBSD-specific) + problem reports. + + + To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 24 14:54:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D3037B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:54:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 308F114C52; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:54:20 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Peter Pentchev Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Add an "Other resources" section to the problem reports article References: <20011125002117.B580@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20011125004618.C580@straylight.oblivion.bg> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 24 Nov 2001 23:54:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20011125004618.C580@straylight.oblivion.bg> Message-ID: Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Pentchev writes: > Okay, updated patch attached. I was not quite sure which instance > of 'submitting' you had in mind, so I changed both in different ways :) I meant the second :) Please commit. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 24 16: 6:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA5337B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:06:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DF9BD17; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:06:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12471; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:06:19 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAP03xn79511; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:03:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Peter Pentchev Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Add an "Other resources" section to the problem reports article References: <20011125002117.B580@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20011125004618.C580@straylight.oblivion.bg> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 24 Nov 2001 16:03:58 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20011125004618.C580@straylight.oblivion.bg> Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Pentchev writes: > Also, I removed the dot after the 'G' in Simon G. Tatham, since some > browsers place additional whitespace after it. That seems a poor reason to violate standard English. Browsers should REMOVE whitespace after it, like Netscape does. But you're doin' the work, so I can't complain (much). BTW, Harry S Truman's name was not Harry S. Truman (if periods mean anything). He said his middle name was a compromise between the competing names of grandparents. He often used a period in his signature and the "U.S. Government Printing Office Style Manual" recommends its use in his name. "The Chicago Manual of Style" suggests use of the period even for single-letter middle names. Cf. http://www.trumanlibrary.org/speriod.htm P.S. Thanks for the reply about "penv". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 24 16: 8:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C8737B405; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fAODCiA13768; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:12:45 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:12:44 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Murray Stokely Cc: Mike Harding , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: empty index.html in /usr/www? Message-ID: <20011124131244.I91698@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200111181809.fAII9jY83271@gits.dyndns.org> <20011119145019.D0CB713317@netcom1.netcom.com> <20011119071016.R27929@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X+nYw8KZ/oNxZ8JS" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011119071016.R27929@windriver.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:10:16AM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --X+nYw8KZ/oNxZ8JS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:10:16AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > The prstats is new stuff I've recently committed which depends on > Tcl and gnuplot to build nice pretty graphs of open PRs vs time. This > probably isn't related to your other problems as nothing in the > prstats directory uses XSLT. You can skip the prstats stuff by > building with NO_PRSTATS=3D1. If you have those programs installed and > it is still failing somehow, then please post the output. Can we default that to 'off', and explicitly turn it on for the freefall builds? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --X+nYw8KZ/oNxZ8JS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjv/nMsACgkQk6gHZCw343WgpQCfQ5GUE5n3E9DC6SetSqNJXu9W IGsAoJAjsWnInDaLJfUbdm2eLNJDj88g =oTxf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --X+nYw8KZ/oNxZ8JS-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 24 16:15:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (discworld.nanolink.com [217.75.135.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A7B237B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 836 invoked by uid 1000); 25 Nov 2001 00:14:34 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 02:14:34 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Add an "Other resources" section to the problem reports article Message-ID: <20011125021434.B617@straylight.oblivion.bg> References: <20011125002117.B580@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20011125004618.C580@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from swear@blarg.net on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 04:03:58PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 04:03:58PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Peter Pentchev writes: > > > Also, I removed the dot after the 'G' in Simon G. Tatham, since some > > browsers place additional whitespace after it. > > That seems a poor reason to violate standard English. Browsers should > REMOVE whitespace after it, like Netscape does. But you're doin' the > work, so I can't complain (much). OK, so I'll add it back. I'll commit the attached patch in about twelve hours, if there are no serious objections. Thanks for the feedback; I was holding back on the commit just to see if somebody could see something wrong with the patch - it turns out that there was something wrong indeed :) G'luck, Peter -- If the meanings of 'true' and 'false' were switched, then this sentence wouldn't be false. Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 article.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/article.sgml 23 Nov 2001 21:13:13 -0000 1.6 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/article.sgml 24 Nov 2001 22:45:14 -0000 @@ -491,4 +491,21 @@ above) saying that the problem report can be closed, and, if possible, explaining how or when the problem was fixed. + + + Further Reading + + This is a list of resources relevant to the proper writing + and processing of problem reports. It is by no means complete. + + + + + How to Report Bugs Effectively - an excellent + essay by Simon G. Tatham on composing useful (non-FreeBSD-specific) + problem reports. + + + To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message