From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Jul 10 10:58: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.shopcusa.com (freebsd.shopcusa.com [63.204.212.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0B237B406 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:58:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@shopcusa.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by freebsd.shopcusa.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f6AI2BL77173 for freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:02:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@shopcusa.com) Received: from webmaster (webmaster.clayton.shopcusa.com [192.168.0.2]) by freebsd.shopcusa.com (8.11.4/8.11.3av) with SMTP id f6AI2BE77164 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:02:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@shopcusa.com) From: "ComputersUSA! WebMaster" To: Subject: RE: Vmware - Serial Configuration? Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:58:02 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oh, I found the problem. Leave it to Super Micro to do something increadibly stupid. Unfortantly It took me a Windows 2000 Load to determine what the cause of the problem was. Super Micro Kindly put Com1 In the Position of Com2 on the PCB. So I had My Palm Pilot Connected to Com2, which was off in bios. Go Figure, but anyways it works now. Chris. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed Jul 11 3:49:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rapidsite.net (mail.rapidsite.net [207.158.192.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0639937B401 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 03:49:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jvervlied@hway.net) Received: from sketchy.gw.hway.net (207.158.192.34) by mail.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.60s) with SMTP id 09948221 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 06:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B4C2FCC.481F3025@hway.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 06:51:56 -0400 From: Jason Vervlied X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problem with vmware2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Loop-Detect: 1 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay, Here is the problem I am having. I am running FreeBSD-4.3. I installed vmware from the ports collection, and the install seemed to go fine. The problem is that whenever I try to start up my virtual machine, X will lock up on me, and if I try to go to another virtual terminal or simply break out of X (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace) my machine will reboot. The virtual machine never even gets to POST before this happens. Has anyone here ever had this problem, and if so does anyone know a solution to this problem. Thanks, Jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed Jul 11 5:59:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from kumquat.hlcca.org (kumquat.hlcca.org [209.244.192.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93B9837B401 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 05:59:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dakota@kumquat.hlcca.org) Received: (qmail 18804 invoked by uid 143); 11 Jul 2001 08:59:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO kumquat.hlcca.org) (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jul 2001 08:59:02 -0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Jason Vervlied Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org From: lists@mediumgreen.com Subject: Re: Problem with vmware2 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 11 Jul 2001 06:51:56 -0400." <3B4C2FCC.481F3025@hway.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:59:02 +0000 Message-Id: <20010711125922.93B9837B401@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been having exactly the same problem for a week or so. I was using vmware without trouble for the past year+. I recently upgraded my X server to 4.1.0 and think that this might be related. I also converted my mouse to a USB mouse. Which version of XFree86 are you running? -matthew I think I heard Jason Vervlied say: >Okay, > > Here is the problem I am having. I am running FreeBSD-4.3. I installed >vmware from the ports collection, and the install seemed to go fine. The >problem is that whenever I try to start up my virtual machine, X will >lock up on me, and if I try to go to another virtual terminal or simply >break out of X (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace) my machine will reboot. The virtual >machine never even gets to POST before this happens. Has anyone here >ever had this problem, and if so does anyone know a solution to this >problem. > >Thanks, > >Jason > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed Jul 11 16:33:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from kumquat.hlcca.org (kumquat.hlcca.org [209.244.192.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A8EB37B403 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 16:33:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dakota@kumquat.hlcca.org) Received: (qmail 21402 invoked by uid 143); 11 Jul 2001 19:33:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO kumquat.hlcca.org) (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jul 2001 19:33:16 -0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Jason Vervlied , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, dakota@FreeBSD.ORG From: lists@mediumgreen.com Subject: Re: Problem with vmware2 In-Reply-To: Message from lists@mediumgreen.com of "Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:59:02 GMT." <20010711125922.93B9837B401@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:33:16 +0000 Message-Id: <20010711233328.9A8EB37B403@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think I heard lists@mediumgreen.com say: > >I've been having exactly the same problem for a week or so. I was using >vmware without trouble for the past year+. I recently upgraded my X >server to 4.1.0 and think that this might be related. I also converted >my mouse to a USB mouse. Which version of XFree86 are you running? I'm pretty certain that it's a problem with my X server. I've tried starting up vmware on a remote display and it works fine (although slow, of course). Whenever I try starting it on my local display, I still get the freezing of the mouse and machine rebooting. I'm using XFree86 4.1.0 from ports with the mga driver that comes with the distribution. Jason - do you have a similar configuration? -matthew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu Jul 12 17:23:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from fnord.ir.bbn.com (FNORD.IR.BBN.COM [192.1.100.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 70C9037B401 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:23:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdt@fnord.ir.bbn.com) Received: (qmail 3085 invoked by uid 10853); 13 Jul 2001 00:23:38 -0000 To: Nick Sayer Cc: Charles Anderson , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD VMware guest never idles References: <200103091510.f29FADi30516@morpheus.kfu.com> <20010309155114.C63383@midgard.dhs.org> <3AA950D2.5060108@quack.kfu.com> From: Greg Troxel Date: 12 Jul 2001 20:23:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: Nick Sayer's message of "Fri, 09 Mar 2001 13:53:22 -0800" Message-ID: Lines: 28 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (replying to mail from 4 months ago) Nick Sayer writes: > Disconnecting the RTC fixed it. I wonder what the mechanism involved is. I am running vmware2-2.0.3.799_1 under 4.3-stable (early june + security patches) on a TP600E. I have found that starting up a guest os (either NetBSD 1.5 or Windows 2000) causes reasonble idle behavior (i.e., when the load average on the guest os is low, the cpu usage of the vmware process is also low). After suspending, exiting vmware, restarting and resuming, I find that the vmware process is running continuously, even though the NetBSD host is just running top and showing 0.08 load. All of this is with the RTC connected. Disconnecting the RTC causes vmware cpu usage to become reasonable, and reconnecting causes it to become essentially 100%. So, this seems to have something to do with a resumed VM versus a new VM. I wonder if there is some RTC 'hardware' state that is not properly saved across suspend/resume, but is initialized at boot time. Can anyone explain the consequences of disconnecting RTC? Is having this 'connected' what makes the "hardware clock" in the VM synced to the host os operating system time? Should I just run NTP on the guest instead? Greg Troxel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Jul 13 20:19:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mail.disney.com (mail.disney.com [204.128.192.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CBF37B403 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 20:19:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jim.Pirzyk@disney.com) Received: from pain10.corp.disney.com (root@pain10.corp.disney.com [153.7.110.100]) by mail.disney.com (Switch-2.0.1/Switch-2.0.1) with SMTP id f6E3IaI08923 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 20:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.30.50.1] by pain.corp.disney.com with ESMTP for freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 20:20:16 -0700 Received: from plio.fan.fa.disney.com (plio.fan.fa.disney.com [153.7.118.2]) by pecos.fa.disney.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6E3JLs16254 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 20:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.fan.fa.disney.com (mercury.fan.fa.disney.com [153.7.119.1]) by plio.fan.fa.disney.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA06178 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 20:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jim.Pirzyk@disney.com) Received: from snoopy.fan.fa.disney.com by mercury.fan.fa.disney.com for freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 20:19:20 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Jim Pirzyk Organization: Walt Disney Feature Animation To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: math library difference between linux emulation and native freebsd (and native linux) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 20:19:19 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01071320191905.28908@snoopy> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So I have stumbled across a linux emulation bug in freebsd. Below is the program that returns different results based on FreeBSD, Linux or Linux emulation under FreeBSD. Running natively under FreeBSD: x = 53.27850000 exp(x) = 137581029243568449912832.00000000 Running natively under Linux: x = 53.278500 exp(x) = 137581029243568449912832.000000 Running under FreeBSD in Linux emulation mode: x = 53.27850000 exp(x) = 137581029243567812378624.00000000 #include #include #include int main (int argc, char **argv) { double x = 53.278500; printf ("x = %8lf\n", x); printf ("exp(x) = %8lf\n", exp(x)); exit (0); } There are only two shared libaries in common (libc and libm) and both are the same on FreeBSD (in /compat/linux) and Linux. So any ideas on where the program is going wrong? - JimP -- --- @(#) $Id: dot.signature,v 1.10 2001/05/17 23:38:49 Jim.Pirzyk Exp $ __o Jim.Pirzyk@disney.com ------------- pirzyk@freebsd.org _'\<,_ Senior Systems Engineer, Walt Disney Feature Animation (*)/ (*) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Jul 13 21:33:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from quack.kfu.com (quack.kfu.com [205.178.90.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A4537B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:33:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from icarus.kfu.com ([3ffe:1200:301b:1:a00:20ff:fede:adbf]) by quack.kfu.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6E4Xma88615 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:33:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from quack.kfu.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by icarus.kfu.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6E4XmP06837; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:33:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Message-ID: <3B4FCBAB.8030607@quack.kfu.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:33:47 -0700 From: Nick Sayer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010701 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Troxel Cc: freebsd-emulation Subject: Re: FreeBSD VMware guest never idles References: <200103091510.f29FADi30516@morpheus.kfu.com> <20010309155114.C63383@midgard.dhs.org> <3AA950D2.5060108@quack.kfu.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Troxel wrote: > > Can anyone explain the consequences of disconnecting RTC? Is having > this 'connected' what makes the "hardware clock" in the VM synced to > the host os operating system time? Should I just run NTP on the guest > instead? > > Greg Troxel > It depends on the guest OS. FreeBSD uses the 'rtc' as the source for the profile timer, but if you're not profiling stuff, it shouldn't matter. Windows tends to use the RTC as a means of synchronizing multimedia stuff. Without it, the media player, shockwave/flash and other stuff like that... sucks more... sort of. So far as I know, Linux doesn't use it at all, except to provide for a /dev/rtc, which we just emulate with our emulating driver. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Sat Jul 14 12: 5:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from leia.servany.com (w025.z064001190.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.190.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9DD37B401 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:05:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from friends@openxxx.net) Received: from localhost (211.75.142.146 [211.75.142.146]) by leia.servany.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 2J1G10KB; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:02:52 -0700 To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org From: friends@openxxx.net X-Mailer: Perl+Mail::Sender 0.7.10 by Jan Krynicky Subject: Hello, your friend recommended openxxx to you Message-Id: <20010714190529.9B9DD37B401@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You have been invited to check out this adult site by one of your friends who visited us. our URL is http://www.openxxx.net/ enjoy, OpenXXX TEAM 2001 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Sat Jul 14 12:18:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from kumquat.hlcca.org (kumquat.hlcca.org [209.244.192.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABE0237B403 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:18:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dakota@kumquat.hlcca.org) Received: (qmail 454 invoked by uid 143); 14 Jul 2001 15:18:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO kumquat.hlcca.org) (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Jul 2001 15:18:52 -0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Jason Vervlied , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org From: lists@mediumgreen.com Subject: Re: Problem with vmware2 In-Reply-To: Message from lists@mediumgreen.com of "Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:33:16 GMT." <20010711233328.9A8EB37B403@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 15:18:52 +0000 Message-Id: <20010714191845.ABE0237B403@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think I heard lists@mediumgreen.com say: >I think I heard lists@mediumgreen.com say: >> >>I've been having exactly the same problem for a week or so. I was using >>vmware without trouble for the past year+. I recently upgraded my X >>server to 4.1.0 and think that this might be related. I also converted >>my mouse to a USB mouse. Which version of XFree86 are you running? > >I'm pretty certain that it's a problem with my X server. I've tried >starting up vmware on a remote display and it works fine (although >slow, of course). Whenever I try starting it on my local display, >I still get the freezing of the mouse and machine rebooting. I'm >using XFree86 4.1.0 from ports with the mga driver that comes with >the distribution. Jason - do you have a similar configuration? Well.. I downgraded my X server to XFree86 4.0.3 and moved my mouse back to the ps/2 port instead of using the USB port. VMware still crashes my machine when I try to "power" it on. I'm at wits end on this and even considering downgrading to Linux.. as much as I hate windoze, I've got to be able to run windoze applications sometimes... staroffice doesn't have templates for avery labels, the full acrobat doesn't run on freebsd, etc. For that matter.. even if star office could do labels it probably wouldn't matter since it usually doesn't work either (that sofficerc file missing problem that most people seem to have). Anyway... does anyone have any other suggestions on what to do about this before I try something drastic like installing Linux? -matthew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message