From owner-freebsd-fs Sun May 20 5:36: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82D937B424; Sun, 20 May 2001 05:35:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f4KCZTU08627; Sun, 20 May 2001 15:35:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 15:35:28 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Bruce Evans Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where to put include files (was: cvs commit: src Makefile.inc1) Message-ID: <20010520153528.B7358@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Bruce Evans , freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org References: <20010518175335.A90576@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from bde@zeta.org.au on Sun, May 20, 2001 at 01:57:45AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 01:57:45AM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: > On Fri, 18 May 2001, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > sbin/mount_null/Makefile > > > sbin/mount_portal/Makefile > > > sbin/mount_umap/Makefile > > > sbin/mount_union/Makefile > > > > > FS headers should go into /usr/include/fs/fs.h, one per > > each filesystem. > > without a slash? This isn't so clear. Lots of headers may be > needed for _fsck. > Hmm, right. Actually, I just want a consistency here, no matter which way we choose, so we could get rif of all bogus -I${.CURDIR}/.../sys lines in Makefiles. Should we put all FS-related headers under /usr/include/fs//*.h then? That would imply moving src/sys/ufs to src/sys/fs/ufs so that we could make `make SHARED=symlinks' work as well. (Similarly for src/sys/miscfs -> src/sys/fs/miscfs.) I'm not sure what impact on third-party software that would have. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Mon May 21 8:42: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1385437B424; Mon, 21 May 2001 08:41:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f4LFfck20097; Mon, 21 May 2001 18:41:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:41:38 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: arch@FreeBSD.org, fs@FreeBSD.org Cc: Boris Popov Subject: [CFR] /sys/miscfs/* -> /sys/fs/ Message-ID: <20010521184138.A19159@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: arch@FreeBSD.org, fs@FreeBSD.org, Boris Popov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! The below patch moves /sys/miscfs/* to /sys/fs. Also, it installs missing headers to /usr/include and removes explicit -I${.CURDIR}/../../sys lines from various Makefiles. For testers: the patch assumes that the repo-copy of /sys/miscfs/* to /sys/fs has already been made, so you will also need to (cd /sys; mv miscfs/* fs) before applying the patch. The patch is available from here: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~ru/miscfs2fs.patch Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Mon May 21 8:51: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from web10304.mail.yahoo.com (web10304.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA1F137B42C for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 08:50:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graham_guttocks@yahoo.co.nz) Message-ID: <20010521155057.71975.qmail@web10304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.165.156.80] by web10304.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 21 May 2001 08:50:57 PDT Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:50:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Graham Guttocks Subject: softupdates performance question To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, I just finished installing 4.3-RELEASE on my IBM Thinkpad whose partitions look like this: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s2a 8711619 1720740 6293950 21% / procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc During installation, I chose "softupdates" for my / partition. It now seems as if file manipulation operations are slower than they should be. Is this my imagination, or has softupdates slowed things down? Should I disable softupdates with tunefs? Regards, Graham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Mon May 21 9:12:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704FB37B422; Mon, 21 May 2001 09:12:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4LGCEL60130; Mon, 21 May 2001 18:12:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG, fs@FreeBSD.ORG, Boris Popov Subject: Re: [CFR] /sys/miscfs/* -> /sys/fs/ In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 21 May 2001 18:41:38 +0300." <20010521184138.A19159@sunbay.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:12:14 +0200 Message-ID: <60128.990461534@critter> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20010521184138.A19159@sunbay.com>, Ruslan Ermilov writes: >Hi! > >The below patch moves /sys/miscfs/* to /sys/fs. >Also, it installs missing headers to /usr/include >and removes explicit -I${.CURDIR}/../../sys lines >from various Makefiles. Yes! Rather sooner than later! -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Mon May 21 11:11:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FE737B422; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:11:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4LIBdG45356; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:11:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010521184138.A19159@sunbay.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:11:45 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: RE: [CFR] /sys/miscfs/* -> /sys/fs/ Cc: Boris Popov , fs@FreeBSD.org, arch@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21-May-01 Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > Hi! > > The below patch moves /sys/miscfs/* to /sys/fs. > Also, it installs missing headers to /usr/include > and removes explicit -I${.CURDIR}/../../sys lines > from various Makefiles. > > For testers: the patch assumes that the repo-copy > of /sys/miscfs/* to /sys/fs has already been made, > so you will also need to (cd /sys; mv miscfs/* fs) > before applying the patch. > > The patch is available from here: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/~ru/miscfs2fs.patch I'm hoping it follows http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/docs/sysorg.txt? Note that to be consistent in the naming scheme, I have portal -> portalfs, fdesc -> fdescfs, and union -> unionfs. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Mon May 21 11:18:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from beastie.mckusick.com (beastie.mckusick.com [209.31.233.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFBE37B43C; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mckusick@mckusick.com) Received: from beastie.mckusick.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.mckusick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12849; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:18:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mckusick@beastie.mckusick.com) Message-Id: <200105211818.LAA12849@beastie.mckusick.com> To: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: [CFR] /sys/miscfs/* -> /sys/fs/ Cc: Boris Popov , fs@FreeBSD.ORG, arch@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 21 May 2001 11:11:45 PDT." Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:18:17 -0700 From: Kirk McKusick Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I agree that this change is appropriate. Kirk McKusick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Mon May 21 15:35: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-9.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8A737B422 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 15:35:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3FE2066E2F; Mon, 21 May 2001 15:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:35:05 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Stefan Parvu Cc: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UFS to FAT32 Message-ID: <20010521153504.E4731@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="M/SuVGWktc5uNpra" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sparvu@cc.hut.fi on Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:25:33PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --M/SuVGWktc5uNpra Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:25:33PM +0300, Stefan Parvu wrote: >=20 > Then do I need to cvsup to -CURRENT or how ? > By the way how can I cvsup to 5.0_CURRENT ? I think there I could find > setfacle /getfacl and softupdates integrated ? -current isn't for non-developers. You need to be familiar enough with FreeBSD to negotiate minefields on your own. Kris --M/SuVGWktc5uNpra Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7CZgYWry0BWjoQKURAssjAJ0eE6SGji+x106vbrBtdcuWz5htigCg4g2D +9RE8IvxOLPr4pKgLJREhkg= =oW/L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M/SuVGWktc5uNpra-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Mon May 21 18:54:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from relay.butya.kz (butya-gw.butya.kz [212.154.129.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D5B37B422; Mon, 21 May 2001 18:54:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bp@butya.kz) Received: by relay.butya.kz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A9F1F28CBB; Tue, 22 May 2001 08:54:38 +0700 (ALMST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.butya.kz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2CD28CBA; Tue, 22 May 2001 08:54:38 +0700 (ALMST) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:54:38 +0700 (ALMST) From: Boris Popov To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org, fs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [CFR] /sys/miscfs/* -> /sys/fs/ In-Reply-To: <20010521184138.A19159@sunbay.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 21 May 2001, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > The below patch moves /sys/miscfs/* to /sys/fs. Sounds good. nwfs, ntfs and msdosfs also can be safely moved under fs/ hierarchy. Not sure about the rest. -- Boris Popov http://www.butya.kz/~bp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Tue May 22 4:48:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E21637B422; Tue, 22 May 2001 04:48:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA17467; Tue, 22 May 2001 21:48:01 +1000 Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:46:34 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: John Baldwin Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , Boris Popov , fs@FreeBSD.ORG, arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: [CFR] /sys/miscfs/* -> /sys/fs/ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 21 May 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > On 21-May-01 Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > The below patch moves /sys/miscfs/* to /sys/fs. > > ... > > The patch is available from here: > > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/~ru/miscfs2fs.patch > > I'm hoping it follows http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/docs/sysorg.txt? > > Note that to be consistent in the naming scheme, I have portal -> portalfs, > fdesc -> fdescfs, and union -> unionfs. This would be bogus unless the filesystems are also renamed. Many filesystem names don't end in "fs": $ ls /sbin/mount_* /sbin/mount_cd9660 /sbin/mount_devfs /sbin/mount_ext2fs /sbin/mount_fdesc /sbin/mount_ifs /sbin/mount_linprocfs /sbin/mount_mfs /sbin/mount_msdos /sbin/mount_nfs /sbin/mount_ntfs /sbin/mount_null /sbin/mount_nwfs /sbin/mount_portal /sbin/mount_procfs /sbin/mount_std /sbin/mount_umap /sbin/mount_union nullfs and umapfs are already bogusly named. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Tue May 22 4:51:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8D637B42C; Tue, 22 May 2001 04:51:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA17586; Tue, 22 May 2001 21:49:15 +1000 Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:47:48 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Boris Popov Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [CFR] /sys/miscfs/* -> /sys/fs/ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 22 May 2001, Boris Popov wrote: > On Mon, 21 May 2001, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > The below patch moves /sys/miscfs/* to /sys/fs. > > Sounds good. nwfs, ntfs and msdosfs also can be safely moved under > fs/ hierarchy. Not sure about the rest. ext2fs would go in fs/gnu/ext2fs (or is it gnu/fs/ext2fs?). Ugh. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Tue May 22 5:26:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0450137B42C; Tue, 22 May 2001 05:26:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f4MCQaK45095; Tue, 22 May 2001 05:26:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4MCQZJ41755; Tue, 22 May 2001 05:26:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 05:26:35 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Bruce Evans Subject: RE: [CFR] /sys/miscfs/* -> /sys/fs/ Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG, fs@FreeBSD.ORG, Boris Popov , Ruslan Ermilov Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 22-May-01 Bruce Evans wrote: > On Mon, 21 May 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > >> On 21-May-01 Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >> > The below patch moves /sys/miscfs/* to /sys/fs. >> > ... >> > The patch is available from here: >> > >> > http://www.FreeBSD.org/~ru/miscfs2fs.patch >> >> I'm hoping it follows http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/docs/sysorg.txt? >> >> Note that to be consistent in the naming scheme, I have portal -> portalfs, >> fdesc -> fdescfs, and union -> unionfs. > > This would be bogus unless the filesystems are also renamed. Many filesystem > names don't end in "fs": > > $ ls /sbin/mount_* > /sbin/mount_cd9660 > /sbin/mount_devfs > /sbin/mount_ext2fs > /sbin/mount_fdesc > /sbin/mount_ifs > /sbin/mount_linprocfs > /sbin/mount_mfs > /sbin/mount_msdos > /sbin/mount_nfs > /sbin/mount_ntfs > /sbin/mount_null > /sbin/mount_nwfs > /sbin/mount_portal > /sbin/mount_procfs > /sbin/mount_std > /sbin/mount_umap > /sbin/mount_union > > nullfs and umapfs are already bogusly named. Consistency would be nice. :) I agree that the filesystem names need to be the same everywhere: mount_*, fsck_*, *.ko, sys/modules/* sys/fs/*. > Bruce -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.Baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Tue May 22 6:27:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2DA37B424; Tue, 22 May 2001 06:27:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f4MDRO808142; Tue, 22 May 2001 16:27:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:27:24 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: John Baldwin Cc: Bruce Evans , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, fs@FreeBSD.ORG, Boris Popov Subject: Re: [CFR] /sys/miscfs/* -> /sys/fs/ Message-ID: <20010522162724.C99517@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: John Baldwin , Bruce Evans , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, fs@FreeBSD.ORG, Boris Popov References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:26:35AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:26:35AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 22-May-01 Bruce Evans wrote: > > On Mon, 21 May 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > > > >> On 21-May-01 Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > >> > The below patch moves /sys/miscfs/* to /sys/fs. > >> > ... > >> > The patch is available from here: > >> > > >> > http://www.FreeBSD.org/~ru/miscfs2fs.patch > >> > >> I'm hoping it follows http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/docs/sysorg.txt? > >> > >> Note that to be consistent in the naming scheme, I have portal -> portalfs, > >> fdesc -> fdescfs, and union -> unionfs. > > > > This would be bogus unless the filesystems are also renamed. Many filesystem > > names don't end in "fs": > > > > $ ls /sbin/mount_* > > /sbin/mount_cd9660 > > /sbin/mount_devfs > > /sbin/mount_ext2fs > > /sbin/mount_fdesc > > /sbin/mount_ifs > > /sbin/mount_linprocfs > > /sbin/mount_mfs > > /sbin/mount_msdos > > /sbin/mount_nfs > > /sbin/mount_ntfs > > /sbin/mount_null > > /sbin/mount_nwfs > > /sbin/mount_portal > > /sbin/mount_procfs > > /sbin/mount_std > > /sbin/mount_umap > > /sbin/mount_union > > > > nullfs and umapfs are already bogusly named. > > Consistency would be nice. :) I agree that the filesystem names need to be the > same everywhere: mount_*, fsck_*, *.ko, sys/modules/* sys/fs/*. > Except for mount_* please. Doing this would break people's fstab(5)'s. I've implemented the rest. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Tue May 22 8:32: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD2F37B424; Tue, 22 May 2001 08:32:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4MFVwl09032; Tue, 22 May 2001 08:31:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4MFVvK48159; Tue, 22 May 2001 08:31:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:31:57 -0700 From: "David O'Brien - Arch" To: Bruce Evans Cc: Boris Popov , Ruslan Ermilov , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [CFR] /sys/miscfs/* -> /sys/fs/ Message-ID: <20010522083156.A48074@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: arch@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from bde@zeta.org.au on Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:47:48PM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:47:48PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: > > Sounds good. nwfs, ntfs and msdosfs also can be safely moved under > > fs/ hierarchy. Not sure about the rest. > > ext2fs would go in fs/gnu/ext2fs (or is it gnu/fs/ext2fs?). Ugh. Should be sys/gnu. We don't want people having to search all over the place for the GPVed code if they need to dike all of it out for there use. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Tue May 22 11: 5:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D54837B42C; Tue, 22 May 2001 11:05:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4MI4mL71131; Tue, 22 May 2001 20:04:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Bruce Evans Cc: Boris Popov , Ruslan Ermilov , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [CFR] /sys/miscfs/* -> /sys/fs/ In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 22 May 2001 21:47:48 +1000." Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:04:48 +0200 Message-ID: <71129.990554688@critter> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message , Bruce Ev ans writes: >On Tue, 22 May 2001, Boris Popov wrote: > >> On Mon, 21 May 2001, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >> >> > The below patch moves /sys/miscfs/* to /sys/fs. >> >> Sounds good. nwfs, ntfs and msdosfs also can be safely moved under >> fs/ hierarchy. Not sure about the rest. > >ext2fs would go in fs/gnu/ext2fs (or is it gnu/fs/ext2fs?). Ugh. it would be src/sys/gnu/fs/ext2fs or src/sys/contrib/fs/ext2fs -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Tue May 22 21: 0:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from relay.butya.kz (butya-gw.butya.kz [212.154.129.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA20237B42C; Tue, 22 May 2001 21:00:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bp@butya.kz) Received: by relay.butya.kz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EF98628754; Wed, 23 May 2001 11:00:10 +0700 (ALMST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.butya.kz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AF22874D; Wed, 23 May 2001 11:00:10 +0700 (ALMST) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:00:10 +0700 (ALMST) From: Boris Popov To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: John Baldwin , Bruce Evans , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [CFR] /sys/miscfs/* -> /sys/fs/ In-Reply-To: <20010522162724.C99517@sunbay.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 22 May 2001, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > Consistency would be nice. :) I agree that the filesystem names need to be the > > same everywhere: mount_*, fsck_*, *.ko, sys/modules/* sys/fs/*. > > > Except for mount_* please. Doing this would break people's fstab(5)'s. > I've implemented the rest. This will break only cd9660 and msdos entries. Others are rarely used and heads-up will be sufficient. ...(mount_stdfs ? :) -- Boris Popov http://www.butya.kz/~bp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Wed May 23 2:21:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A319F37B42C; Wed, 23 May 2001 02:21:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@uunet.co.za) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 152UpW-0002Kw-00; Wed, 23 May 2001 11:21:22 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id LAA05656; Wed, 23 May 2001 11:21:14 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 5428; Wed May 23 11:20:05 2001 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 152UoG-0009d4-00; Wed, 23 May 2001 11:20:04 +0200 To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Bruce Evans , Boris Popov , Ruslan Ermilov , arch@freebsd.org, fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFR] /sys/miscfs/* -> /sys/fs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 22 May 2001 20:04:48 +0200." <71129.990554688@critter> Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:20:04 +0200 Message-ID: <37017.990609604@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> From: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 22 May 2001 20:04:48 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >ext2fs would go in fs/gnu/ext2fs (or is it gnu/fs/ext2fs?). Ugh. > > it would be src/sys/gnu/fs/ext2fs or src/sys/contrib/fs/ext2fs Is it feasible to keep this consistent with userland by putting the source in src/sys/contrib and the build infrastructure in src/sys/gnu? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Wed May 23 5:55:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15E737B422; Wed, 23 May 2001 05:55:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA24838; Wed, 23 May 2001 22:51:55 +1000 Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:50:27 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Boris Popov , Ruslan Ermilov , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [CFR] /sys/miscfs/* -> /sys/fs/ In-Reply-To: <37017.990609604@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 23 May 2001, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On Tue, 22 May 2001 20:04:48 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > >ext2fs would go in fs/gnu/ext2fs (or is it gnu/fs/ext2fs?). Ugh. > > > > it would be src/sys/gnu/fs/ext2fs or src/sys/contrib/fs/ext2fs s/Ugh/Bletch/g > Is it feasible to keep this consistent with userland by putting the > source in src/sys/contrib and the build infrastructure in src/sys/gnu? No. ext2fs is not contrib'ed. (It's only 30% GPL'ed too, except the GPL makes in all GPL'ed.) Userland at least installs things in reasonable places, so that there is no /usr/include/contrib (or is it /usr/contrib/include?). Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message