From owner-freebsd-gnome Sun Dec 30 12: 0:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9193937B41B; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:00:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from petef@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBUJpeD16493; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:51:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from petef) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:51:40 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200112301951.fBUJpeD16493@freefall.freebsd.org> To: petef@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/33355: devel/gnomevfs does not pick up gnomelibs dependency Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Synopsis: devel/gnomevfs does not pick up gnomelibs dependency Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-ports->gnome Responsible-Changed-By: petef Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Dec 30 11:51:33 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to maintainers http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33355 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Sun Dec 30 14: 6:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from a96180.upc-a.chello.nl (a96180.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.96.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5F237B417; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by a96180.upc-a.chello.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 10AB7219A; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:06:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:06:06 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: sobomax@freebsd.org Cc: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: gnucash breakage Message-ID: <20011230220606.GT69365@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Organisation: Ninth Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had to do the following: CONFIGURE_ENV= CPPFLAGS="-I${LOCALBASE}/include -I${X11BASE}/include -I${X11BASE}/include/gdk-pixbuf-1.0" \ in the Makefile to get it to pick up the gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf.h header file, which is getting included from gnome-1.0/libgnomeprint/gnome-print.h -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / Asmodai / Kita no Mono / xMach coreteam asmodai@[wxs.nl|xmach.org], finger asmodai@ninth-circle.org, www.xmach.org Keep your face to the sun and you will never see the shadows... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Sun Dec 30 15:18:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.port.ru (mx4.port.ru [194.67.57.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CC037B419; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:18:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [193.108.237.240] (helo=[193.108.237.240]) by smtp4.port.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #1) id 16KpDy-000IsV-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:18:40 +0300 Subject: GNOME on BSD: the past and the future From: Maxim Sobolev Reply-To: sobomax@FreeBSD.org To: gnome@FreeBSD.org Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, ade@FreeBSD.org, proclus@iname.com Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ZXw/OXMx3lEGbszivqW+" Message-Id: <1009754271.254.14.camel@notebook> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 31 Dec 2001 01:18:01 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-ZXw/OXMx3lEGbszivqW+ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [CC'ed to ports@FreeBSD.org for better reach] Dear friends, As usual, the very end of the year is a good time to summarize things that happened during the past year as well as set targets for the next year. The past year was undoubtedly the very successful time for the GNOME development in general of for FreeBSD porting effort. Several "killer apps" and core components either reached their 1.0 release, or are close to that point, and what's more important for us is that most of those apps are now working on FreeBSD quite stably. Of course this would be absolutely impossible without the great help from the FreeBSD GNOME community and I would like to use this opportunity to say "thank you" to all people who contributed patches, bug reports, suggestions and moral support. It was really enjoyable to work with you and I look forward to continuing our fruitful co-operation in the year 2002. Speaking about the future, there are several ideas that I would like to share with you and get your feedback on. First of all, it is quite clear that we need to move away from the existing "one person" development model, because the size of the GNOME ports sub-collection is growing fast, and things are likely to become even worse when the GNOME2 platform will start shaping out in the second half of the 2002. My vision is that we need a team of at least 2-3 dedicated developers with the write access to FreeBSD ports repository by the mid-2002 and 5-6 at the end of the year. I have a few potential candidates on the list and planning to start discussing with each of them shortly. Another thing that I think would be necessary is the dedicated GNOME packages building machine to test and debug the changes on, because current bento turn-around times are sub-optimal. If anybody is interested and has a machine with good connectivity and some spare CPU cycles - please let me know. There are also a number of tasks that are less critical and more long-term, but they are also have to be eventually addressed: 1. Integration of the FreeBSD-specific changes into the main GNOME repository. As the time goes, this becomes more and more important, because with each new release the number of local changes and hacks increases eating up a valuable time due to necessary to merge old changes into the new code. It would be much easier if we have had a person with the direct write access into the GNOME cvs repo (another long-term goal), but there isn't such person yet, so we need to cope with the problem somehow. It would be great is somebody could pick up this task, or at least part of it (say only patches for core components upon which gnomecore depends - see attached list), identify patches that could be integrated and submit them into the GNOME bug tracking system. 2. Creation of the website for the "GNOME on the FreeBSD" FreeBSD subproject. For example we have such website for Java subproject (http://www.FreeBSD.org/java/). I have some ideas about possible content of those pages, so don't hesitate to contact me if you are interested in doing that. On a related note, we need some form of FAQ with answers to a common FreeBSD-specific questions, because I see people keep asking the same ones again and again just wasting their and ours time. I have archives of gnome@FreeBSD.org alias since its beginning as well as my answers to GNOME-related question sent to ports@FreeBSD.org before the alias was created, so what is really necessary here is to do compilation. Again, if somebody feels adventurous enough to pick this up - please let me know.=20 3. Better co-operation with the same porting efforts on others BSD derivatives, most notably NetBSD and GNU/Darwin. Obviously, most of the FreeBSD-specific changes in our tree aren't really FreeBSD-specific, but instead BSD-specific, so that all parties could benefit from that by avoiding duplicate work. From all above, it's most non-obvious task, I still do not have a clear vision of how this could be attacked. 4. Better dialogue with GNOME developers. Since Ade's (who at that time was the member of GNOME Foundation) resignation there was almost no relations between FreeBSD and main GNOME developers. Again, I do not have a clear vision of how to address this problem, perhaps Ade has some better ideas. Ade? Ok folks, that's basically all I have to say on the topic - feel free to follow-up with your comments, suggestions and feedback. Please note, however, that I'll be mostly off-line during the next 2 days, so be more patient - I'll answer eventually. And last, but not least, I would like to wish to all users and developers a happy, prosperous and successful New Year!!! -Maxim --=-ZXw/OXMx3lEGbszivqW+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8L6CeoNu5t4iCBa8RAhvOAJ9aKtJZ223jF6qEACMVobxhzzlBrgCcC+6f Ok89l/WKgM06WlXrPsMB1NA= =4D7k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ZXw/OXMx3lEGbszivqW+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Sun Dec 30 15:28: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx7.port.ru (mx7.port.ru [194.67.57.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E5737B405 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:28:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [193.108.237.240] (helo=[193.108.237.240]) by mx7.port.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #1) id 16KpMv-0007Iu-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:27:54 +0300 Subject: Re: gnucash breakage From: Maxim Sobolev Reply-To: sobomax@FreeBSD.org To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: gnome@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20011230220606.GT69365@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <20011230220606.GT69365@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-i5xmBj8axx9/MdKLq6ff" Message-Id: <1009754719.254.16.camel@notebook> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 31 Dec 2001 01:27:19 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-i5xmBj8axx9/MdKLq6ff Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2001-12-31 at 00:06, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > I had to do the following: >=20 > CONFIGURE_ENV=3D CPPFLAGS=3D"-I${LOCALBASE}/include -I${X11BASE}/include > -I${X11BASE}/include/gdk-pixbuf-1.0" \ >=20 > in the Makefile to get it to pick up the gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf.h header > file, which is getting included from gnome-1.0/libgnomeprint/gnome-print.= h Strange - I can't reproduce that problem here. I suspect that you have some outdated GNOME component. What `pkg_version | grep -v =3D' says right after a fresh cvsup? -Maxim --=-i5xmBj8axx9/MdKLq6ff Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8L6JfoNu5t4iCBa8RAoETAJ9PA6BKL/KLKIe3LyUsrtujL2UpCQCfbYSM izUB8JyZUv6/mhnepsV72Zg= =yhU0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-i5xmBj8axx9/MdKLq6ff-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Sun Dec 30 15:36:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx10.port.ru (mx10.port.ru [194.67.57.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C5937B416; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:36:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [193.108.237.240] (helo=[193.108.237.240]) by mx10.port.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #1) id 16KpVC-0006Ro-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:36:28 +0300 Subject: Re: GNOME on BSD: the past and the future From: Maxim Sobolev To: sobomax@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: gnome@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, ade@FreeBSD.ORG, proclus@iname.com Reply-To: sobomax@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <1009754271.254.14.camel@notebook> References: <1009754271.254.14.camel@notebook> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-+iqUHNJ1zCIaPCuDUaQw" Message-Id: <1009755334.254.22.camel@notebook> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 31 Dec 2001 01:35:49 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-+iqUHNJ1zCIaPCuDUaQw Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-6l8+CQIAq5VbhQKDlG9Y" --=-6l8+CQIAq5VbhQKDlG9Y Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --=-6l8+CQIAq5VbhQKDlG9Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2001-12-31 at 01:18, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > [...] > 1. Integration of the FreeBSD-specific changes into the main GNOME > repository. As the time goes, this becomes more and more important, > because with each new release the number of local changes and hacks > increases eating up a valuable time due to necessary to merge old > changes into the new code. It would be much easier if we have had a > person with the direct write access into the GNOME cvs repo (another > long-term goal), but there isn't such person yet, so we need to cope > with the problem somehow. It would be great is somebody could pick up > this task, or at least part of it (say only patches for core components > upon which gnomecore depends - see attached list), identify patches that > could be integrated and submit them into the GNOME bug tracking system. I have to follow-up to myself, but I forgot to attach the list. Attaching it with this message. -Maxim --=-6l8+CQIAq5VbhQKDlG9Y Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=gnomecore.list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable /usr/ports/x11/gnomecore /usr/ports/audio/esound /usr/ports/audio/gnomeaudio /usr/ports/audio/libaudiofile /usr/ports/databases/gnomedb /usr/ports/databases/libgda /usr/ports/devel/ORBit /usr/ports/devel/bonobo /usr/ports/devel/gconf /usr/ports/devel/glib12 /usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs /usr/ports/devel/libglade /usr/ports/devel/libunicode /usr/ports/devel/oaf /usr/ports/graphics/gdk-pixbuf /usr/ports/graphics/imlib /usr/ports/print/gnomeprint /usr/ports/sysutils/gnomecontrolcenter /usr/ports/textproc/libxml /usr/ports/textproc/scrollkeeper /usr/ports/www/glibwww /usr/ports/www/gtkhtml /usr/ports/www/libghttp /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gal /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12 /usr/ports/x11/gnomelibs --=-6l8+CQIAq5VbhQKDlG9Y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEuMC42IChGcmVl QlNEKQpDb21tZW50OiBGb3IgaW5mbyBzZWUgaHR0cDovL3d3dy5nbnVwZy5vcmcKCmlEOERCUUE4 TDZRM29OdTV0NGlDQmE4UkFzd1ZBSjBUaDNLRGYxRFBVWmVKYXRpOWRaMVIyRE1HVGdDZllZYmwK MFl2bzBPR1NsNGt2TUxVZGt5RHZQazA9Cj1mNW8zCi0tLS0tRU5EIFBHUCBTSUdOQVRVUkUtLS0t LQo= --=-6l8+CQIAq5VbhQKDlG9Y-- --=-+iqUHNJ1zCIaPCuDUaQw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8L6TGoNu5t4iCBa8RArvdAJ0QXxxb7ig+KBxtDlFMEItxIcDA0ACfbzYk Dd9s/ExhJnnhNtyFjoxZuFE= =s+kG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-+iqUHNJ1zCIaPCuDUaQw-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Sun Dec 30 16: 4:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A445937B405; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from johncoop.MSHOME (drumheller-router.bmi.net [206.63.201.3] (may be forged)) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22748; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:03:58 -0800 Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:03:54 -0800 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: sobomax@FreeBSD.org Cc: gnome@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org, ade@FreeBSD.org, proclus@iname.com Subject: Re: GNOME on BSD: the past and the future Message-ID: <20011230160354.C33226@johncoop.MSHOME> References: <1009754271.254.14.camel@notebook> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1009754271.254.14.camel@notebook>; from sobomax@mail.ru on Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 15:18:01 -0800 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.3.0 Lines: 132 Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001.12.30 15:18 Maxim Sobolev wrote: > [CC'ed to ports@FreeBSD.org for better reach] > > Dear friends, > > As usual, the very end of the year is a good time to summarize things > that happened during the past year as well as set targets for the next > year. > > The past year was undoubtedly the very successful time for the GNOME > development in general of for FreeBSD porting effort. Several "killer > apps" and core components either reached their 1.0 release, or are > close > to that point, and what's more important for us is that most of those > apps are now working on FreeBSD quite stably. Of course this would be > absolutely impossible without the great help from the FreeBSD GNOME > community and I would like to use this opportunity to say "thank you" > to > all people who contributed patches, bug reports, suggestions and moral > support. It was really enjoyable to work with you and I look forward > to > continuing our fruitful co-operation in the year 2002. > > Speaking about the future, there are several ideas that I would like > to > share with you and get your feedback on. > > First of all, it is quite clear that we need to move away from the > existing "one person" development model, because the size of the GNOME > ports sub-collection is growing fast, and things are likely to become > even worse when the GNOME2 platform will start shaping out in the > second > half of the 2002. My vision is that we need a team of at least 2-3 > dedicated developers with the write access to FreeBSD ports repository > by the mid-2002 and 5-6 at the end of the year. I have a few potential > candidates on the list and planning to start discussing with each of > them shortly. > > Another thing that I think would be necessary is the dedicated GNOME > packages building machine to test and debug the changes on, because > current bento turn-around times are sub-optimal. If anybody is > interested and has a machine with good connectivity and some spare CPU > cycles - please let me know. > I build all these applications (the GNOME components and most of the ports) on a regular basis (every time they change) anyway. I have a 700 mHz Athlon and 512kbps upstream (if someone wants to play on my system, the problem is that I have dynamic IP through my provider). I would be happy to run a cron-driven job, produces logs, and e-mail them out through some automated means. > There are also a number of tasks that are less critical and more > long-term, but they are also have to be eventually addressed: > > 1. Integration of the FreeBSD-specific changes into the main GNOME > repository. As the time goes, this becomes more and more important, > because with each new release the number of local changes and hacks > increases eating up a valuable time due to necessary to merge old > changes into the new code. It would be much easier if we have had a > person with the direct write access into the GNOME cvs repo (another > long-term goal), but there isn't such person yet, so we need to cope > with the problem somehow. It would be great is somebody could pick up > this task, or at least part of it (say only patches for core > components > upon which gnomecore depends - see attached list), identify patches > that > could be integrated and submit them into the GNOME bug tracking > system. > > 2. Creation of the website for the "GNOME on the FreeBSD" FreeBSD > subproject. For example we have such website for Java subproject > (http://www.FreeBSD.org/java/). I have some ideas about possible > content > of those pages, so don't hesitate to contact me if you are interested > in > doing that. On a related note, we need some form of FAQ with answers > to > a common FreeBSD-specific questions, because I see people keep asking > the same ones again and again just wasting their and ours time. I have > archives of gnome@FreeBSD.org alias since its beginning as well as my > answers to GNOME-related question sent to ports@FreeBSD.org before the > alias was created, so what is really necessary here is to do > compilation. Again, if somebody feels adventurous enough to pick this > up > - please let me know. > I would be happy to throw together/maintain a website for FreeBSD-GNOME. Yet another excuse to play with SCREEM. :) An integral part of this would be the FAQ. > 3. Better co-operation with the same porting efforts on others BSD > derivatives, most notably NetBSD and GNU/Darwin. Obviously, most of > the > FreeBSD-specific changes in our tree aren't really FreeBSD-specific, > but > instead BSD-specific, so that all parties could benefit from that by > avoiding duplicate work. From all above, it's most non-obvious task, I > still do not have a clear vision of how this could be attacked. > > 4. Better dialogue with GNOME developers. Since Ade's (who at that > time > was the member of GNOME Foundation) resignation there was almost no > relations between FreeBSD and main GNOME developers. Again, I do not > have a clear vision of how to address this problem, perhaps Ade has > some > better ideas. Ade? > > Ok folks, that's basically all I have to say on the topic - feel free > to > follow-up with your comments, suggestions and feedback. Please note, > however, that I'll be mostly off-line during the next 2 days, so be > more > patient - I'll answer eventually. > > And last, but not least, I would like to wish to all users and > developers a happy, prosperous and successful New Year!!! > > -Maxim > -- _ | |V| / ' || MacroHard -- \ \_| | | \_, || the perfection of form over | ----------------------------------|| substance, marketing over | Web: http://www.borgsdemons.com || performance, and greed over | AIM: johnmcooper || design . . . | =====================================================================/ Public Key: http://www.borgsdemons.com/Personal/pgpkey.asc | =====================================================================\ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Sun Dec 30 18:53: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mango-bay.com (mail.mango-bay.com [208.206.15.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C192137B43B; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:52:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from barbish ([63.70.155.68]) by mail.mango-bay.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52377U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id com; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:55:16 -0500 From: "Joe & Fhe Barbish" To: Cc: Subject: FreeBSD Port: mc-4.5.54_2 Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:52:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Midnight commander port maintainer. I have no place to turn to, I have exhausted all sources of research on the Midnight commander program. In the FBSD question I asked for recommendation for a command line file manager like the MS/Dos tree command. Many FBSD users recommended Midnite commander. I installed it from the ports and have trying to get it to work. I can not get mouse point & click or cut & Past to work when Midnite commander is launched from the command line. All indications from different FBSD mailing list indicate that these functions worked in the past but now only works when Midnite commander is launched from XFree. I do not have XFree installed on my machine. I selected the kernel devel option during stand/sysinstall. I have tried the below listed additions to rc.conf without any results. I have searched all the mailing lists including FBSD's using google looking for Midnite commander, Midnight commander, mc, and midc going back to 1997. I even emailed the people who answered questions and there email addressed bounced. Below are some snipits that looked interesting as subjects that needed looking into, but are out of my domain of knowledge. That is why I have turned to you for help. What needs to be done to get mouse control to work for point & click and cut & Past when launched from the command line with out having the base XFree system installed on the machine? The MC FAQ says 3.1 How do I enable mouse support? Invoke midc like this (without quotes): "midc -x". If this doesn't work upgrade to a terminal which is compatible with the Xterm mouse sequences. Alternatively, on Linux console you can use gpm. Same results starting with midc -x as with out the -x, mouse does not work. What do I have to do to make the master root console to act like a xterm or enable the console/telnet to use a mouse compatible configuration? Lack of "vidcontrol -m on" on the other consoles. add this lines to your "/etc/rc.conf" file. moused_enable="YES" # Run the mouse daemon. moused_type="ps/2" # Set the type of mouse. moused_port="/dev/psm0" # Set to your mouse port. moused_flags="-3" # Any additional flags to moused. allscreens_flags="-m on" # Vidcontrol mode for all virtual screens. A final alternative might be to recompile your kernel with pcvt instead of syscons. That'll give you a vt220 by default. But I'm not sure how well supported that is these days (probably fine; I just haven't heard of anyone using it in a while). Did the latest gpm (1.17.8-1) break the mouse in Midnite Commander for anyone else? Mouse quit in MC with latest potato gpm update- Has been a few updates ago it quit in aumix also. Seems to cut-and-paste ok but no click-on works. Works normally in XFree. Further info: replaced gpm with 1.17.8-2 from "incoming" - no improvement :(Replaced gpm with Slink gpm- now mc works fine but aumix still does not respond to mouse properly. Must be problem in aumix. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Sun Dec 30 19:14: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-28-046.nc.rr.com [66.57.28.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC5937B422; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from shumai.marcuscom.com (marcus@shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBV3DF547188; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:13:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: mc-4.5.54_2 From: Joe Clarke To: Joe & Fhe Barbish Cc: gnome@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 30 Dec 2001 22:14:17 -0500 Message-Id: <1009768464.65124.2.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2001-12-30 at 21:52, Joe & Fhe Barbish wrote: > Dear Midnight commander port maintainer. > > I have no place to turn to, I have exhausted all sources of research > on the Midnight commander program. In the FBSD question I asked for > recommendation for a command line file manager like the MS/Dos tree > command. Many FBSD users recommended Midnite commander. I installed > it from the ports and have trying to get it to work. I can not get > mouse point & click or cut & Past to work when Midnite commander is > launched from the command line. All indications from different FBSD > mailing list indicate that these functions worked in the past but > now only works when Midnite commander is launched from XFree. I do > not have XFree installed on my machine. I selected the kernel devel > option during stand/sysinstall. I have tried the below listed additions > to rc.conf without any results. I have searched all the mailing lists > including FBSD's using google looking for Midnite commander, Midnight > commander, mc, and midc going back to 1997. I even emailed the people > who answered questions and there email addressed bounced. Below are some > snipits that looked interesting as subjects that needed looking into, > but are out of my domain of knowledge. > That is why I have turned to you for help. As far as I can tell, mc requires gpm for mouse support. This is only available on Linux. Joe > > What needs to be done to get mouse control to work for point & click and > cut & Past when launched from the command line with out having the > base XFree system installed on the machine? > > > The MC FAQ says > 3.1 How do I enable mouse support? > Invoke midc like this (without quotes): "midc -x". If this doesn't work > upgrade to a terminal which is compatible with the Xterm mouse sequences. > Alternatively, on Linux console you can use gpm. > > Same results starting with midc -x as with out the -x, mouse does not work. > What do I have to do to make the master root console to act like a xterm > or enable the console/telnet to use a mouse compatible configuration? > > > > Lack of "vidcontrol -m on" on the other consoles. > add this lines to your "/etc/rc.conf" file. > > moused_enable="YES" # Run the mouse daemon. > moused_type="ps/2" # Set the type of mouse. > moused_port="/dev/psm0" # Set to your mouse port. > moused_flags="-3" # Any additional flags to moused. > allscreens_flags="-m on" # Vidcontrol mode for all virtual screens. > > A final alternative might be to recompile your kernel with pcvt instead > of syscons. That'll give you a vt220 by default. But I'm not sure how > well supported that is these days (probably fine; I just haven't heard > of anyone using it in a while). > > > Did the latest gpm (1.17.8-1) break the mouse in Midnite Commander for > anyone else? Mouse quit in MC with latest potato gpm update- Has been > a few updates ago it quit in aumix also. Seems to cut-and-paste ok but > no click-on works. Works normally in XFree. > > > Further info: replaced gpm with 1.17.8-2 from "incoming" - no > improvement :(Replaced gpm with Slink gpm- now mc works fine > but aumix still does not respond to mouse properly. > Must be problem in aumix. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Sun Dec 30 19:22:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-28-046.nc.rr.com [66.57.28.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBC137B42B; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:22:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from shumai.marcuscom.com (marcus@shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBV3Lb547227; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:21:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Subject: Re: GNOME on BSD: the past and the future From: Joe Clarke To: sobomax@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: gnome@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, ade@FreeBSD.ORG, proclus@iname.com In-Reply-To: <1009754271.254.14.camel@notebook> References: <1009754271.254.14.camel@notebook> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 30 Dec 2001 22:22:39 -0500 Message-Id: <1009768959.65124.4.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2001-12-30 at 18:18, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > [CC'ed to ports@FreeBSD.org for better reach] > > Dear friends, > > As usual, the very end of the year is a good time to summarize things > that happened during the past year as well as set targets for the next > year. > > The past year was undoubtedly the very successful time for the GNOME > development in general of for FreeBSD porting effort. Several "killer > apps" and core components either reached their 1.0 release, or are close > to that point, and what's more important for us is that most of those > apps are now working on FreeBSD quite stably. Of course this would be > absolutely impossible without the great help from the FreeBSD GNOME > community and I would like to use this opportunity to say "thank you" to > all people who contributed patches, bug reports, suggestions and moral > support. It was really enjoyable to work with you and I look forward to > continuing our fruitful co-operation in the year 2002. > > Speaking about the future, there are several ideas that I would like to > share with you and get your feedback on. > > First of all, it is quite clear that we need to move away from the > existing "one person" development model, because the size of the GNOME > ports sub-collection is growing fast, and things are likely to become > even worse when the GNOME2 platform will start shaping out in the second > half of the 2002. My vision is that we need a team of at least 2-3 > dedicated developers with the write access to FreeBSD ports repository > by the mid-2002 and 5-6 at the end of the year. I have a few potential > candidates on the list and planning to start discussing with each of > them shortly. While I don't currently have write access to the source tree, I would be more than willing to help with the FreeBSD-Gnome effort. I've been contributing patches, and have been doing my best to answer Gnome questions on the lists. > > Another thing that I think would be necessary is the dedicated GNOME > packages building machine to test and debug the changes on, because > current bento turn-around times are sub-optimal. If anybody is > interested and has a machine with good connectivity and some spare CPU > cycles - please let me know. I have a few machines I run Gnome on, and keep the builds current. I track -stable both at home and at work, and I do my best to make sure Gnome not only compiles, but runs well on all my machines. I also test against XFree 4.x. While I only have cable modem access at home, I would be happy to lend my machines for testing. I have a 733 Intel and a 933 Intel (Coppermine) with which I do most of my work. > > There are also a number of tasks that are less critical and more > long-term, but they are also have to be eventually addressed: > > 1. Integration of the FreeBSD-specific changes into the main GNOME > repository. As the time goes, this becomes more and more important, > because with each new release the number of local changes and hacks > increases eating up a valuable time due to necessary to merge old > changes into the new code. It would be much easier if we have had a > person with the direct write access into the GNOME cvs repo (another > long-term goal), but there isn't such person yet, so we need to cope > with the problem somehow. It would be great is somebody could pick up > this task, or at least part of it (say only patches for core components > upon which gnomecore depends - see attached list), identify patches that > could be integrated and submit them into the GNOME bug tracking system. It seems to me that this is already happening. I have seen a number of patches that make the FreeBSD ports tree get merged into Gnome proper. I site most recently the gdm patches, and, while not Gnome itself, the recent MMX assembly patches for libpng. However, I agree merging in some of the other portability fixes to apps like Evolution would be a good thing. > > 2. Creation of the website for the "GNOME on the FreeBSD" FreeBSD > subproject. For example we have such website for Java subproject > (http://www.FreeBSD.org/java/). I have some ideas about possible content > of those pages, so don't hesitate to contact me if you are interested in > doing that. On a related note, we need some form of FAQ with answers to > a common FreeBSD-specific questions, because I see people keep asking > the same ones again and again just wasting their and ours time. I have > archives of gnome@FreeBSD.org alias since its beginning as well as my > answers to GNOME-related question sent to ports@FreeBSD.org before the > alias was created, so what is really necessary here is to do > compilation. Again, if somebody feels adventurous enough to pick this up > - please let me know. I wouldn't mind compiling some of the questions. A good deal of Gnome problems can currently be solved by making sure all the bits are current. Joe > > 3. Better co-operation with the same porting efforts on others BSD > derivatives, most notably NetBSD and GNU/Darwin. Obviously, most of the > FreeBSD-specific changes in our tree aren't really FreeBSD-specific, but > instead BSD-specific, so that all parties could benefit from that by > avoiding duplicate work. From all above, it's most non-obvious task, I > still do not have a clear vision of how this could be attacked. > > 4. Better dialogue with GNOME developers. Since Ade's (who at that time > was the member of GNOME Foundation) resignation there was almost no > relations between FreeBSD and main GNOME developers. Again, I do not > have a clear vision of how to address this problem, perhaps Ade has some > better ideas. Ade? > > Ok folks, that's basically all I have to say on the topic - feel free to > follow-up with your comments, suggestions and feedback. Please note, > however, that I'll be mostly off-line during the next 2 days, so be more > patient - I'll answer eventually. > > And last, but not least, I would like to wish to all users and > developers a happy, prosperous and successful New Year!! > > -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Sun Dec 30 23:30:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E9437B42C; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:30:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwcjr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBV7RvH28201; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:27:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwcjr) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:27:57 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200112310727.fBV7RvH28201@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dwcjr@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/33384: GNOME sucks ass Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Synopsis: GNOME sucks ass Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-ports->gnome Responsible-Changed-By: dwcjr Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Dec 30 23:27:00 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to maintainer(s), who hopefully don't have the same problem as the developers http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33384 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Mon Dec 31 2:10:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DE537B42C; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBVA8QQ54709; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:08:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:08:26 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200112311008.fBVA8QQ54709@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ihategnome@gnome.org, mike@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/33384: GNOME sucks ass Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Synopsis: GNOME sucks ass State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: mike State-Changed-When: Mon Dec 31 02:07:04 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Not funny. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33384 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Mon Dec 31 2:23: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from a96180.upc-a.chello.nl (a96180.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.96.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD5E37B41D; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:23:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by a96180.upc-a.chello.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E1727219A; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:22:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:22:59 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: sobomax@FreeBSD.org Cc: gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gnucash breakage Message-ID: <20011231102259.GV69365@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <20011230220606.GT69365@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <1009754719.254.16.camel@notebook> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1009754719.254.16.camel@notebook> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Organisation: Ninth Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20011231 00:30], Maxim Sobolev (sobomax@mail.ru) wrote: >Strange - I can't reproduce that problem here. I suspect that you have >some outdated GNOME component. What `pkg_version | grep -v =' says right >after a fresh cvsup? Well, gnucash was the lastest port I was working on portupgrading. [16:09] [asmodai@purgatory] (30) {0} $ ls /var/db/pkg Hermes-1.3.2 linux_base-6.1 Mesa-3.4.2_1 linuxdoc-1.1 ORBit-0.5.12 lrzsz-0.12.20 TenDRA-4.1.2 m4-1.4_1 XFree86-4.1.0_6 minicom-1.83.1_2 Xaw3d-1.5 mkcatalog-1.1 aalib-1.2_2 mozilla-0.9.7,1 acroread-3.02 mp3_check-1.98 acroread4-4.05 mp3check-1.5 aterm-0.4.2 mpeg_lib-1.3.1 atomix-0.4.3 mpg123-0.59r_4 autoconf-2.52_2 mplayer-0.50.0.2 autoconf213-2.13.000227_1 mplayer-fonts-0.50 automake-1.5,1 mtv-1.2.5 automake14-1.4.5 nasm-0.98.08 avifile-0.60.20010920 netpbm-9.22 bcc-1995.03.12 netscape-remote-1.0_1 bison-1.30 netscape-wrapper-2000.07.07 bladeenc-0.94.2 nl-ispell-1.0.0_2 bochs-1.3,1 oaf-0.6.7 bonobo-1.0.17 open-motif-2.1.30_1 cdecl-2.5 p5-Date-Manip-5.40 cssc-0.13a.1 p5-Digest-MD5-2.16 cvsup-16.1e p5-Finance-Quote-1.06 dagrab-0.3.5 p5-HTML-0.6 db3-3.2.9_3,1 p5-HTML-Parser-3.25 ddd-3.3 p5-HTML-TableExtract-1.07 dejagnu-1.4.1 p5-HTML-Tagset-3.03 dict-1.5.5 p5-MD5-2.02 dmake-4.1 p5-MIME-Base64-2.12 dnetc-2.8015.469_1,1 p5-Net-1.0901 docbook-1.2 p5-URI-1.17 docbook-241 p5-libwww-5.53_1 docbook-3.0 pcemu-1.01b docbook-3.1 pdftohtml-0.31 docbook-4.0 peps-1.0 docbook-4.1 pkg_tarup-1.2_3 dsssl-docbook-cygnus-1.44 pkgconfig-0.8.0 dsssl-docbook-modular-1.73 pkgdb.db eperl-2.2.14 pmake-2.1.33 esound-0.2.23 png-1.2.1 expect-5.32.1 popt-1.5.1 freetype-1.3.1_1 portlint-2.3.2 freetype2-2.0.5 portupgrade-20011218 g-wrap-1.1.9 psiconv-0.8.2 gal-0.18.1 psim-freebsd-5.1 gcc30-3.0.2 pspell-0.12.2_1 gconf-1.0.7 pstotext-1.8g gdbm-1.8.0 python-2.1.1 gdk-pixbuf-0.14.0 qt-2.3.1 gentoo-0.11.18 rpm-3.0.6_5 gettext-0.10.35 rsync-2.5.0_1 gettext-0.10.40 rtc-2001.09.16.1 ghostscript-gnu-6.51 ruby-1.6.6 gimp-1.2.2_1,1 ruby-amstd-1.10.0 glib-1.2.10_5 ruby-fnmatch-1.1b_1 glibwww-0.2_1 ruby-gtk-0.26 glimpse-4.12.6 ruby-optparse-0.8.6 gmake-3.79.1 ruby-racc-1.4.1 gnats-3.113.1 ruby-racc-runtime-1.4.1 gnomeaudio-1.4.0 ruby-rdtool-0.6.10_1 gnomebasic-0.0.20 ruby-strscan-0.6.5 gnomecanvas-0.14.0 ruby-uri-0.9,1 gnomecontrolcenter-1.4.0.1 ruby-xmlscan-0.0.10 gnomecore-1.4.0.4_3 ruby-xslt-0.0.2 gnomedb-0.2.93_2 sane-backends-1.0.6 gnomelibs-1.4.1.2_2 sane-frontends-1.0.6 gnomemm-1.2.1 screen-3.9.10 gnomeprint-0.34 scrollkeeper-0.2_3 gnomevfs-1.0.3 sdl-1.2.3_1 gnucash-1.6.4 sgmlformat-1.7_1 gnumeric-0.99.1 sidplay-1.0.4 gnut-0.4.28 sim-2.3d grip-2.96_1 ski-0.943l.2 gtetrinet-0.4.1 slib-2d1_2 gtk-1.2.10_3 sodipodi-0.24.1 gtkhtml-1.0.0 staroffice-5.2 gtkmm-1.2.8 svgalib-1.4.2_1 guile-1.4 swig-1.1p5_7 guppi-0.40.2 t1lib-1.2 html-4.01 tcl-8.2.3 ia64sim-0.5 tcl-8.3.3_4 ickle-0.2.0 tcptrace-6.0.0b2 icqlib-1.0.0 teg-0.9.2 id3tool-1.1f tidy-20000804_1 imlib-1.9.11 tiff-3.5.7 iso8879-1986 tk-8.2.3 ispell-3.2.05_1 tk-8.3.3 jade-1.2.1_1 tkgnats-3.0.16 jpeg-6b_1 ttcp-1.12 lcc-3.6 ttf2pt1-3.4.0 lclint-2.5q ttraffic-0.8 lcms-1.07_1 ucpp-1.1 libaudiofile-0.2.2 unrar-2.50 libdvdcss-0.0.3 unzip-5.42 libdvdread-0.9.2 vice-1.6 libesmtp-0.8.8 vim-6.0.1 libgda-0.2.93_2 vmware2-2.0.4.1142 libghttp-1.0.9 vnc-tight-1.2.1 libglade-0.17_1 wget-1.8_2 libgnugetopt-1.1 win32-codecs-010122.1.0.50 libiconv-1.7_1 windowmaker-0.80.0 libmng-1.0.3 wmfsm-0.31 libole2-0.2.4 wmicons-1.0 libsidplay-1.36.47 wminet-2.0.3 libsigc++-1.0.3 wmitime-0.3 libtool-1.3.4_2 wmmon-1.0b2 libungif-4.1.0b1 wmnet-1.2 libunicode-0.4_2 wrapper-1.0_1 libwww-5.3.2 xhtml-1.0 libxml-1.8.16 xmame-0.55.2 libxml2-2.4.12 xmms-1.2.5_1 libxslt-1.0.9 xplot-0.90 links-0.96,1 zip-2.3 linux-netscape-communicator-4.79 zsh-4.0.4 linux-realplayer-8.cs2 -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / Asmodai / Kita no Mono / xMach coreteam asmodai@[wxs.nl|xmach.org], finger asmodai@ninth-circle.org, www.xmach.org Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Mon Dec 31 2:23:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from energyhq.homeip.net (213-97-200-73.uc.nombres.ttd.es [213.97.200.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C57937B41D; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (swordfish.energyhq.org [192.168.0.1]) by energyhq.homeip.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F51E23EC1; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:21:00 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Miguel Mendez Organization: Energy HQ To: , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/33384: GNOME sucks ass Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:19:29 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <200112310727.fBV7RvH28201@freefall.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200112310727.fBV7RvH28201@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011231102100.9F51E23EC1@energyhq.homeip.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday 31 December 2001 08:27, dwcjr@FreeBSD.org wrote: This a joke, right? Some 13 year old who is unable to make install the gnome port sends a fake e-mail complaining, while he had better spent some time learning how to use the system. Oh my God, please, close this PR now, I hope that child is running Win XP by now. > Over to maintainer(s), who hopefully don't have the same problem as the > developers > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33384 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message -- Miguel Mendez - flynn@energyhq.homeip.net EnergyHQ :: http://energyhq.homeip.net FreeBSD - The power to serve! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Mon Dec 31 2:49:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E278E37B41A; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:49:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-337.wobline.de [212.68.71.58]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fBVAn7801077; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:49:07 +0100 Received: from tisys.org (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBVAnNX97132; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:49:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: (from nils@localhost) by tisys.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBVAn9u02367; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:49:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:49:09 +0100 From: Nils Holland To: Miguel Mendez Cc: dwcjr@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/33384: GNOME sucks ass Message-ID: <20011231114909.A2263@tisys.org> Mail-Followup-To: Miguel Mendez , dwcjr@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, gnome@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200112310727.fBV7RvH28201@freefall.freebsd.org> <20011231102100.9F51E23EC1@energyhq.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011231102100.9F51E23EC1@energyhq.homeip.net>; from flynn@energyhq.homeip.net on Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 11:19:29AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD jodie.ncptiddische.net 4.5-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-Machine-Uptime: 11:45AM up 2:35, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 11:19:29AM +0100, Miguel Mendez stood up and spoke: > On Monday 31 December 2001 08:27, dwcjr@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > This a joke, right? > > Some 13 year old who is unable to make install the gnome port sends a fake > e-mail complaining, while he had better spent some time learning how to use > the system. Oh my God, please, close this PR now, I hope that child is > running Win XP by now. The logic of this guy is great, btw! If I didn't like GNOE, I'd simply not install it on my system. What good would be done by removing it from FreeBSD's ports collection (as the guy suggested) is beyond me. Anyway, taking into account that today is the last day of this year, we shouldn't punish the submitter of the PR too hard, I suggest ;-) -- Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Mon Dec 31 3:44:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.port.ru (mx4.port.ru [194.67.57.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DC037B422; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 03:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [193.108.237.200] (helo=[193.108.237.200]) by smtp4.port.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #1) id 16L0pG-000Pzi-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:41:55 +0300 Subject: Re: ports/33384: GNOME sucks ass From: Maxim Sobolev Reply-To: sobmax@FreeBSD.org To: mike@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: ihategnome@gnome.org, gnome@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200112311008.fBVA8QQ54709@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200112311008.fBVA8QQ54709@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-+BzT6lMBDPftgz7KpZc5" Message-Id: <1009798832.254.24.camel@notebook> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 31 Dec 2001 13:40:37 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-+BzT6lMBDPftgz7KpZc5 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2001-12-31 at 12:08, mike@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > Synopsis: GNOME sucks ass >=20 > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: mike > State-Changed-When: Mon Dec 31 02:07:04 PST 2001 > State-Changed-Why:=20 >=20 > Not funny. Agreed. -Maxim --=-+BzT6lMBDPftgz7KpZc5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8ME6woNu5t4iCBa8RAq5uAJ9+TRbRjAMvSikWVngJLyMReGhMNQCghCI+ fdgRZ3XF4Wbf1kT1/xFz4Qg= =gvy+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-+BzT6lMBDPftgz7KpZc5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Mon Dec 31 9:18:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from holmes.grauel.com (holmes.grauel.com [199.233.104.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A69337B435 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:18:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from moriarity.grauel.com (moriarity [199.233.104.37]) by holmes.grauel.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id fBVHICu30221 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:18:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rjk@grauel.com) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:18:15 -0500 From: Richard Kuhns To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Nautilus question Message-Id: <20011231121815.79927dc4.rjk@grauel.com> Organization: Grauel Enterprises, Inc X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've asked this question several other places (including the nautilus mailling list), but have received no answers except for a single "I don't know". I'm hoping the collective expertise on this list might have an answer. I don't like the icons nautilus puts on my desktop for each mount point. How do I keep it from putting them there? I currently have an alias that removes the files from my .gnome-desktop directory, but that only lasts until I log out. The next time I log in, they're all back again. Help? -- Richard Kuhns rjk@grauel.com PO Box 6249 Tel: (765)477-6000 \ 100 Sawmill Road x319 Lafayette, IN 47903 (800)489-4891 / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Mon Dec 31 9:21:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from shumai.marcuscom.com (rdu57-28-046.nc.rr.com [66.57.28.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E0337B419 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:21:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (marcus@localhost) by shumai.marcuscom.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBVHLXk98087; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:21:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shumai.marcuscom.com: marcus owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:21:33 -0500 (EST) From: Joe Clarke To: Richard Kuhns Cc: freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Nautilus question In-Reply-To: <20011231121815.79927dc4.rjk@grauel.com> Message-ID: <20011231122015.R97675-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Richard Kuhns wrote: > I've asked this question several other places (including the nautilus > mailling list), but have received no answers except for a single "I don't > know". I'm hoping the collective expertise on this list might have an > answer. > > I don't like the icons nautilus puts on my desktop for each mount point. > How do I keep it from putting them there? I currently have an alias that > removes the files from my .gnome-desktop directory, but that only lasts > until I log out. The next time I log in, they're all back again. I haven't seen a way to do this except for hacking the source code. I couldn't believe that was the only way, but it seemed to be confirmed when search through the nautilus email archives. Joe > > Help? > > -- > Richard Kuhns rjk@grauel.com > PO Box 6249 Tel: (765)477-6000 \ > 100 Sawmill Road x319 > Lafayette, IN 47903 (800)489-4891 / > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Mon Dec 31 9:45:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from henoc.dnsalias.com (modemcable039.36-202-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca [24.202.36.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A779B37B437 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:45:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebee.henocoffice.com (freebee.henocoffice.com [192.168.0.101]) by henoc.dnsalias.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBVHj2A15785; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:45:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from Unix@henoc.com) Subject: Re: Nautilus question From: Roger Savard To: Joe Clarke Cc: Richard Kuhns , freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20011231122015.R97675-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> References: <20011231122015.R97675-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 31 Dec 2001 12:45:02 -0500 Message-Id: <1009820703.247.0.camel@JSBach.henocoffice.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I do not like them either, go in the nautilus preference menu, expert then in the 3 choice , windows and desktop , tell it NOT to use nautilus to draw desktop or something , that would bring you pretty close to what you want. le Lun 31-12-2001 =E0 12:21, Joe Clarke a =E9crit : >=20 >=20 > On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Richard Kuhns wrote: >=20 > > I've asked this question several other places (including the nautilus > > mailling list), but have received no answers except for a single "I don= 't > > know". I'm hoping the collective expertise on this list might have an > > answer. > > > > I don't like the icons nautilus puts on my desktop for each mount point= . > > How do I keep it from putting them there? I currently have an alias th= at > > removes the files from my .gnome-desktop directory, but that only lasts > > until I log out. The next time I log in, they're all back again. >=20 > I haven't seen a way to do this except for hacking the source code. I > couldn't believe that was the only way, but it seemed to be confirmed whe= n > search through the nautilus email archives. >=20 > Joe >=20 > > > > Help? > > > > -- > > Richard Kuhns rjk@grauel.com > > PO Box 6249 Tel: (765)477-6000 \ > > 100 Sawmill Road x319 > > Lafayette, IN 47903 (800)489-4891 / > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message > > > > >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Mon Dec 31 9:49:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from shumai.marcuscom.com (rdu57-28-046.nc.rr.com [66.57.28.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B8237B422 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:49:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (marcus@localhost) by shumai.marcuscom.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBVHnBr98322; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:49:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shumai.marcuscom.com: marcus owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:49:11 -0500 (EST) From: Joe Clarke To: Roger Savard Cc: Richard Kuhns , Subject: Re: Nautilus question In-Reply-To: <1009820703.247.0.camel@JSBach.henocoffice.com> Message-ID: <20011231124703.L97675-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset="en_US.ISO_8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 31 Dec 2001, Roger Savard wrote: > I do not like them either, go in the nautilus preference menu, expert > then in the 3 choice , windows and desktop , tell it NOT > to use nautilus to draw desktop or something , that would bring you > pretty close to what you want. Yep, but you lose the ability to have _any_ icons on the desktop, and you can no longer right-click on the desktop to bring up a new Nautilus window :-(. Joe > > > le Lun 31-12-2001 =E0 12:21, Joe Clarke a =E9crit : > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Richard Kuhns wrote: > > > > > I've asked this question several other places (including the nautilus > > > mailling list), but have received no answers except for a single "I d= on't > > > know". I'm hoping the collective expertise on this list might have a= n > > > answer. > > > > > > I don't like the icons nautilus puts on my desktop for each mount poi= nt. > > > How do I keep it from putting them there? I currently have an alias = that > > > removes the files from my .gnome-desktop directory, but that only las= ts > > > until I log out. The next time I log in, they're all back again. > > > > I haven't seen a way to do this except for hacking the source code. I > > couldn't believe that was the only way, but it seemed to be confirmed w= hen > > search through the nautilus email archives. > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > Help? > > > > > > -- > > > Richard Kuhns=09=09=09rjk@grauel.com > > > PO Box 6249=09=09=09Tel: (765)477-6000 \ > > > 100 Sawmill Road=09=09=09=09 x319 > > > Lafayette, IN 47903=09=09 (800)489-4891 / > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Mon Dec 31 11: 1:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D924337B41F for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:01:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBVJ1I868939 for gnome@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:01:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:01:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112311901.fBVJ1I868939@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: gnome@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/07/09] ports/28853 gnome textproc/scrollkeeper doesn't compile o [2001/12/05] ports/32539 gnome gnomedb-fe will not run. 2 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [2001/08/22] ports/29969 gnome gnomedb does not build o [2001/09/29] ports/30912 gnome [PATCH] port editors/AbiWord fails to set f [2001/10/02] ports/30988 gnome AbiWord's american.hash dictionary appear f [2001/10/28] ports/31560 gnome Abiword crashes if called with LANG=de_DE f [2001/11/13] misc/31952 gnome Evolution still broken o [2001/11/22] ports/32207 gnome libiconv cannot be built by a pleb o [2001/12/14] ports/32838 gnome Add LDAP support to mail/evolution o [2001/12/26] ports/33186 gnome Update port x11-toolkits/scintilla o [2001/12/29] ports/33302 gnome gnomeicu won't compile on -current o [2001/12/29] ports/33324 gnome Update wording of gdm's pkg-message o [2001/12/30] ports/33355 gnome devel/gnomevfs does not pick up gnomelibs 11 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-gnome Mon Dec 31 23:30:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC0037B429; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 23:30:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ijliao@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g017OOo83592; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 23:24:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ijliao) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 23:24:24 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201010724.g017OOo83592@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ijliao@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/33427: gnomeicu doesn't build on -current Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Synopsis: gnomeicu doesn't build on -current Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-ports->gnome Responsible-Changed-By: ijliao Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 31 23:24:16 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: over to maintainer http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33427 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-gnome" in the body of the message