From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Nov 18 0:31: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f119.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C356437B418 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:30:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:30:58 -0800 Received: from 141.155.174.53 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:30:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [141.155.174.53] From: "WebSec WebSec" To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: SLIP slattach Question Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:30:58 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2001 08:30:58.0744 (UTC) FILETIME=[59409380:01C1700B] Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, I am trying to connect 2 BSD machines via Serial Ports back-to-back via Null modem cables. Both machines are properly connected to a Serial Data Switch. One machine is I/O and the other is machine A. The idea is to be able to move logs to the I/O machine from machine A. (I use DB25 Null Modem Cables) After hours of research I found sources that recommended to do the following: Add the following to the I/O Machine: /etc/rc.conf network_interfaces="sl0 tun0 lo0" ifconfig_sl0="inet 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.0 link0" Add the following to the A Machine: network_interfaces="sl0 tun0 lo0" ifconfig_sl0="inet 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.0" defaultrouter="10.0.0.1" Create these identical files on both macines: /etc/start_if.sl0 slattach -l -c -h -s 115200 /dev/ttyd1 slattach -l -c -h -s 115200 /dev/ttyd1 Rebooted - and nothing worked. I searched a bit more and found the following: On the I/O machine add ifconfig sl0 10.0.0.1 10.0.0.2 Machine A gets the following: ifconfig sl0 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.1 Still nothing works... if I run ifconfig, it does show sl0 interface up and inet10.0.0.1 --> 10.0.0.2 netmask 0xffff0000 What am I doing wrong??? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Nov 18 3:47:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC93737B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:47:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [212.73.210.73]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 1024916B13 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:47:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from IBM-HIRXKN66F0W.Go2France.com [193.251.49.218] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A2A4DF01B2; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:59:32 +0100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011118114629.0319f168@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: LConrad@Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:46:45 +0000 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: b_bcount 36 is not on a sector boundary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.4 Release, dmesg is showing: ahc0: port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xfeaff000-0xfeafffff irq 5 at device 5.0 on pci2 aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfeafe000-0xfeafefff irq 3 at device 5.1 on pci2 aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs pcib3: on motherboard ... da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 17366MB (35566478 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2213C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a dscheck(#da/2): b_bcount 36 is not on a sector boundary (ssize 512) dscheck(#da/2): b_bcount 36 is not on a sector boundary (ssize 512) dscheck(#da/2): b_bcount 36 is not on a sector boundary (ssize 512) dscheck(#da/2): b_bcount 36 is not on a sector boundary (ssize 512) dscheck(#da/2): b_bcount 36 is not on a sector boundary (ssize 512) dscheck(#da/2): b_bcount 36 is not on a sector boundary (ssize 512) Is this hardware, driver ? This is a dedicated FreeBSD + postfix + Kaspersky + avcheck anti-virus mail relay box. We can send 100's of msgs through it and no errors. We send one msg with a virus attached, and the above error occurs. Form what I can find on google, this error seems related to SCSI driver, but that was for FreeBSD 4.0, not 4.4. I'd appreciate some feedback. The client is on the verge of deciding FreeBSD doesn't support his new Dell hardware. 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If you have any additional comments or questions, please contact me or visit our website at www.alleffort.com Thanks for your time, Henry Hwong All Effort, Inc. henry@alleffort.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Nov 18 8: 0:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bsdhome.com (rdu25-2-113.nc.rr.com [24.25.2.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6FF37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from neutrino.bsdhome.com (jupiter [192.168.220.13]) by smtp.bsdhome.com (8.11.3nb1/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAIG0F719067; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:00:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bsd@localhost) by neutrino.bsdhome.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAIG0AS90321; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:00:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bsd) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:00:10 -0500 From: Brian Dean To: Matthew Emmerton Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does DDB's watch feature actually work? Message-ID: <20011118110010.A90083@neutrino.bsdhome.com> References: <048401c16fe7$7bf13b60$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <048401c16fe7$7bf13b60$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca>; from matt@gsicomp.on.ca on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 11:14:10PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 11:14:10PM -0500, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > So, I decided to learn how to use DDB, and set a watch on the data element > that's getting blown away. The problem is, once I've got a watch in place, > the system traps (page fault) at the strangest locations in the networking > code -- %eip is nowhere near any code that modifies the data that I'm > watching. You can try 'hwatch' if you are running a reasonably recent -current or -stable to safely watch memory in the kernel (non-SMP). As for taking the trap within code you didn't expect, this can happen especially when the watch point is a stack address. Stack address watch points may be hit many times by other non-related functions as call frames are created and destroyed via normal execution. You can minimize this by only enabling the watch point while you are within the frame in question (sometimes not an easy task). -Brian -- Brian Dean bsd@FreeBSD.org bsd@bsdhome.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Nov 18 9:29: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from web21103.mail.yahoo.com (web21103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2713737B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:29:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011118172901.15916.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.4] by web21103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:29:01 PST Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:29:01 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: NetBSD Guides To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Cc: newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi all, i just wanted to know.. the guides located in the NetBSD Documentation Project... are they any useful for development on the FreeBSD Platform... even a bit... help is appreciated... thanks.... ===== regards, Hiten Pandya ---------------------------------------------------- Guys!... stay away from Einstein Junior! ---------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Nov 18 14:40:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from boromir.vpop.net (dns1.vpop.net [206.117.147.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA6037B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpop.net (bilbo.vpop.net [63.231.252.113]) by boromir.vpop.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAIMe3n22828; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mreimer@vpop.net) Message-ID: <3BF83945.15DEDC43@vpop.net> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:42:13 -0600 From: Matthew Reimer Organization: VPOP Technologies, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -STABLE NVidia drivers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David, I just tried them out on my machine (-stable, PIII 450, TNT2 Ultra) and they worked fine! I successfully played a DVD with xine and ogle; xine was dropping frames (that might be a threads issue) but ogle played it without dropping any frames. When X started there was some garbage in a rectangular area in the lower right corner of the screen, but it did not obscure the screen while ogle was in full screen mode. After I quit X and restarted X with the nv driver, the cursor was garbage and some garbage was on the screen. A reboot cleared up both. Excellent work David! Matt David Rufino wrote: > > Hi, > > Just thought I would mention my -STABLE NVidia drivers have been working for > the past week, as far as 2D and XVideo goes. Available on CVS at > http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-bsd. > > David > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Nov 18 21:14:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A0437B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.11.6/8.9.1) id fAJ5Dxd26326; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:13:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:13:59 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200111190513.fAJ5Dxd26326@apollo.backplane.com> To: sthaug@nethelp.no Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, matt@gsicomp.on.ca, sandeepj@research.bell-labs.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tracking down "BTX halted" References: <8283.1006031147@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> > > There is a bug in Adaptec BIOSen that they will not tolerate DD disks. :> > :> > Which controllers have this bug? I've got a whole bunch of 7880 and 79xx :> > controllers with disks running in DD mode and never have had this problem. :> :> Happens to me on L440GX+ boards. : :Also happens on IBM Netfinity servers with aic7896/97 controllers. It :*may* be the case that this only happens with certain Adaptec BIOS :versions, but it's very real. I started getting this on DELL's a year and a half ago. The dangerously dedicated partition was to blame (which is what eventually led to my fixing the disklabel auto code). Well, ok, the Adaptec BIOS was to blame, but there isn't much we can do about it so... In my case it wasn't enough to repartition the disk. The old data still screwed up the BIOS. I had to physically wipe (with dd) the first couple of sectors before repartitioning it use the fdisk -BI / disklabel -r -w da0s1 auto combination. -Matt Matthew Dillon :Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no : :To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Nov 18 22:24:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from wren.cs.unc.edu (wren.cs.unc.edu [152.2.128.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5F537B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:24:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from capefear.cs.unc.edu (capefear.cs.unc.edu [152.2.128.19]) by wren.cs.unc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA24780 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:24:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:24:48 -0500 (EST) From: Nguyen-Tuong Long Le To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Periodic tasks ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I originally posted my question on freebsd-net but couldn't find any help. I'm posing my question here because someone suggested that my problem might not be a networking problem: I run experiments to measure the stability of router queue length. In my experiment set up, I have 7 clients and 7 servers connected to a router via an ELS-100 switch. The 7 clients and 7 servers establish long-lived TCP connections and saturate the router's 10 Mbit link. All machines run FreeBSD 4.3 with the router having the ALTQ 3.0 patch (http://www.csl.sony.co.jp/person/kjc/programs.html). I use the FIFO queueing discipline and the userland tools that come with the ALTQ package. The routers are PII 300 MHz (Dell Dimension XPS 300) with Intel Etherpro network cards. There seems to be some periodic tasks that occur every 20 minutes and draws the queue length to 0. I run several experiments and consistently observe the same pattern. I don't have any cron job on the machines. I have a graph of the router's queue length at http://www.cs.unc.edu/~le/tmp/qlen.png Does anyone know what the problem is and how to solve it? Please kindly reply to me because I am not on the list. Thanks, Long To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 0:38:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83E237B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:38:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1cust85.tnt1.pasadena.ca.da.uu.net ([63.28.226.85] helo=fire) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165jx3-0000wt-00 for hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:38:49 -0800 Message-ID: <000701c170f7$3414b590$6503c23f@fire> From: "Matt" To: Subject: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:39:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 1:35:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from eagle.he.net (eagle.he.net [216.218.174.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DD037B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:35:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from anjali ([61.11.16.239] (may be forged)) by eagle.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) with SMTP id BAA10740 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:35:54 -0800 Message-ID: <001701c170dd$71b11ac0$0a00a8c0@indranet> From: "Anjali Kulkarni" To: Subject: tcpdump Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:04:11 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C1710B.71E1B1C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C1710B.71E1B1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am trying to make tcpdump work across 2 machines, ie trying to monitor = a machine's IP packets from another machine. Just typing 'tcpdump host = ip2' from the first m/c, say ip1, is not working. However, typing = 'tcpdump host ip2' on ip2 works fine. Do I have to configure BSD packet = filter to make this work ? I am working on 4.3. Thanks, Anjali ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C1710B.71E1B1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I am trying to make tcpdump work across = 2 machines,=20 ie trying to monitor a machine's IP packets from another machine. Just = typing=20 'tcpdump host ip2' from the first m/c, say ip1, is not working. However, = typing=20 'tcpdump host ip2' on ip2 works fine. Do I have to configure BSD packet = filter=20 to make this work ? I am working on 4.3.
 
Thanks,
Anjali
 
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C1710B.71E1B1C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 1:38:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30BCD37B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 11E0781D0A; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:38:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:38:19 -0600 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Anjali Kulkarni Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcpdump Message-ID: <20011119033819.N13393@elvis.mu.org> References: <001701c170dd$71b11ac0$0a00a8c0@indranet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001701c170dd$71b11ac0$0a00a8c0@indranet>; from anjali@indranetworks.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:04:11PM +0530 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Anjali Kulkarni [011119 03:36] wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to make tcpdump work across 2 machines, ie trying to > monitor a machine's IP packets from another machine. Just typing > 'tcpdump host ip2' from the first m/c, say ip1, is not working. > However, typing 'tcpdump host ip2' on ip2 works fine. Do I have to > configure BSD packet filter to make this work ? I am working on > 4.3. Please wrap lines at 70 characters. You're probably on a switch which means that other hosts on the same ethernet segment can not see each other's packets. You need a hub or a switch that supports a monitoring port where all packets are repeated. -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' http://www.morons.org/rants/gpl-harmful.php3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 2: 5: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from eagle.he.net (eagle.he.net [216.218.174.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC2637B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:04:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from anjali ([61.11.16.239] (may be forged)) by eagle.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) with SMTP id CAA13363 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:04:54 -0800 Message-ID: <004201c170e1$7f53b7b0$0a00a8c0@indranet> From: "Anjali Kulkarni" To: Subject: tcpdump Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:33:20 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01C1710F.8461BAD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C1710F.8461BAD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I forgot to mention, the line pseudo-device bpf 4 is there in the kernel = config file.... Anjali ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C1710F.8461BAD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I forgot to mention, the = line=20 pseudo-device bpf 4 is = there in the=20 kernel config file....
Anjali
------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C1710F.8461BAD0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 2:14:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41E6737B417; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:14:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 19 Nov 2001 10:14:20 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:14:18 +0000 From: David Malone To: Eugene Grosbein Cc: Eugene Grosbein , stable@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern.vm.kmem.size Message-ID: <20011119101418.A38585@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20011111230817.A2325@grosbein.pp.ru> <20011113151329.A44837@walton.maths.tcd.ie> <20011113224730.A864@grosbein.pp.ru> <20011114153031.A16886@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie> <3BF3E9F8.38004D42@svzserv.kemerovo.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BF3E9F8.38004D42@svzserv.kemerovo.su>; from eugen@svzserv.kemerovo.su on Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:14:48PM +0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:14:48PM +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > You are absolutely right, it's using about 1/3 of RAM here > (108875776 when I do not tune kern.vm.kmem.size). > Hmm, my test seems to be incorrect somehow. > How can I see used amount of kernel malloc area? I think you could probably derive it from the info shown by "vmstat -m". David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 2:25: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from eagle.he.net (eagle.he.net [216.218.174.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F1437B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from anjali ([61.11.16.239] (may be forged)) by eagle.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) with SMTP id CAA15067; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:24:57 -0800 Message-ID: <006301c170e4$4c4fb0f0$0a00a8c0@indranet> From: "Anjali Kulkarni" To: "Alfred Perlstein" Cc: References: <001701c170dd$71b11ac0$0a00a8c0@indranet> <20011119033819.N13393@elvis.mu.org> Subject: Re: tcpdump Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:53:23 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Right! I am on a switch on a small n/w connected to another switch which has a larger n/w connected to it. Will using the hub decrease my response time for fetching web pages? (They are not large pages) Anjali ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred Perlstein" To: "Anjali Kulkarni" Cc: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 3:08 PM Subject: Re: tcpdump > * Anjali Kulkarni [011119 03:36] wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to make tcpdump work across 2 machines, ie trying to > > monitor a machine's IP packets from another machine. Just typing > > 'tcpdump host ip2' from the first m/c, say ip1, is not working. > > However, typing 'tcpdump host ip2' on ip2 works fine. Do I have to > > configure BSD packet filter to make this work ? I am working on > > 4.3. > > Please wrap lines at 70 characters. > > You're probably on a switch which means that other hosts on the same > ethernet segment can not see each other's packets. You need a hub > or a switch that supports a monitoring port where all packets are > repeated. > > -- > -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] > 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," > start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' > http://www.morons.org/rants/gpl-harmful.php3 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 2:40:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (mx2.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1E337B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:40:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (sams [134.2.12.50]) by mx2.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4221060 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:40:09 +0100 (MET) Received: (from sperber@localhost) by sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fAJAe9t11724; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:40:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sperber) To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Major number for Sunlite USB DMX driver? From: sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) Date: 19 Nov 2001 11:40:09 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort Gnus v0.03) XEmacs/21.5 (anise) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've written completed a driver for Sunlite's USB DMX512 interface: http://nicolaudie.com/cgi-bin/bin?site=nicolaudie.com&lang=si For those who don't know, DMX512 is the standard control protocol for stage lighting, and it let's people use programs like Lula http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/lula/index-english.html for lighting control instead of specialized, customized, expensive and bulky control consoles. The name of the driver is currently "udmx" to allow for the inclusion of other USB DMX devices. It would be nice to have a device major number allocated for it. I'm not sure if this needs to be coordinated with the USB developers and/or NetBSD, and I'd appreciate if anybody could let me know what needs to be done. -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 3:29:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.macomnet.ru (relay1.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F09437B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:29:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from news1.macomnet.ru (maxim@news1.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.14]) by relay1.macomnet.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAJBTA7351844; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:29:10 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:29:10 +0300 (MSK) From: Maxim Konovalov To: Terry Lambert Cc: Alfred Perlstein , John Baldwin , Subject: Re: has 'options LOCKF_DEBUG' ever worked? (w/ patch) (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3BF5AC86.8A402C96@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20011119133336.B37219-100000@news1.macomnet.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Thank you Terry for your answer, I got your meaning. IMHO we can safely commit my patch meanwhile: http://news1.macomnet.ru/~maxim/p/kern_lockf.c.diff Committers? :-) On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Terry Lambert wrote: > Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > Alfred, John, thanks you very much for your answers. I expected > > something similar. Btw are there any smart ways to find out does > > underlying FS support inode concept or not? Yes, I know about > > vnode.v_tag, but comparing it with VT_UFS/VT_NFS/VT_MFS etc does not > > look OK for me. > > In theory, vnodes are supposed to be opaque types, with no backing > object exposure. > > The real problem here is that the lock list should not be hung > off the inode at all, it should be hung off the vnode, and the > underlying FS objects not referenced (as you noted, there's a > "two for one" object reference locking problem in the current > code). You still need to go to the backing FS, though, since > you need to proxy NFS client locks to remote objects, etc.. IF > you look at ufs_advlock(), you can see the problem: > > ufs_advlock(ap) > struct vop_advlock_args /* { > struct vnode *a_vp; > caddr_t a_id; > int a_op; > struct flock *a_fl; > int a_flags; > } */ *ap; > { > register struct inode *ip = VTOI(ap->a_vp); > > return (lf_advlock(ap, &(ip->i_lockf), ip->i_size)); > } > > ... the vp lock has to imply an ip lock, at least for the i_lockf > list head, which is procedurally exposed. > > A better fix would be to move the lock list into the vnode, and > then call the VOP_ADVLOCK() and assert the lock only if the VFS > VOP_ADVLOCK() returned true. > > This really can't be done safely, since you need to addert locally > before remotely, but then you need to delay the local coelesce, or > you can screw up if the local succeeds and the remote fails, or > vice versa. > > So the true fix has to include delayed coelescing of the local lock > assertion. > > That's true anyway, since the NFSv4 specification demands that the > locks not be coelesced at all, for an implementation to be compliant. > > -- Terry > > -- Maxim Konovalov, MAcomnet, Internet-Intranet Dept., system engineer phone: +7 (095) 796-9079, mailto: maxim@macomnet.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 8:30:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A9437B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:30:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32] ident=exim) by cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 165rJf-0006wb-00 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:30:39 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ident=danny) by pampa.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 165rJf-000Dx9-00 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:30:39 +0200 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: mt/dump/chio Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:30:39 +0200 From: Danny Braniss Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i don't know if this is the right place, if not please re-direct me before shooting :-) we have a tape changer (QUALSTAR TLS-4222i), with 2 scsi tapes, now since both tar and dump understand -f host:/dev/sa, the next thing i did was to make mt (MT(1)) understand it, so that i now can manipulate the tape from afar, without having access permitions to host. the next step it to see how - if at all - mt should understand things like: 'host:/dev/sa0:115' meaning mount tape 115 on /dev/sa0 or more ambitious: 'host:/dev/tape:100@10:45pm' mount tape number 100, on any free device not earlier than 10:45pm if you can see where im going to, and have suggestions, they are welcome. danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 8:32:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A62F37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:32:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from wonky.feral.com (wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAJGWaT82061; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:32:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:32:36 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Danny Braniss Cc: Subject: Re: mt/dump/chio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011119083218.T69189-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG rmt protocol doesn't handle changer commands. You want to start looking at things like NDMP instead. On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Danny Braniss wrote: > i don't know if this is the right place, if not please re-direct me before > shooting :-) > > we have a tape changer (QUALSTAR TLS-4222i), with 2 scsi tapes, > now since both tar and dump understand -f host:/dev/sa, the next thing i did > was to make mt (MT(1)) understand it, so that i now can manipulate the > tape from afar, without having access permitions to host. > > the next step it to see how - if at all - mt should understand things like: > 'host:/dev/sa0:115' meaning mount tape 115 on /dev/sa0 > or more ambitious: > 'host:/dev/tape:100@10:45pm' mount tape number 100, on any free device > not earlier than 10:45pm > > if you can see where im going to, and have suggestions, they are welcome. > > danny > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 8:42:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECCD37B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:42:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32] ident=exim) by cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 165rVF-00076t-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:42:37 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ident=danny) by pampa.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 165rVE-000DyE-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:42:36 +0200 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mt/dump/chio In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:32:36 -0800 (PST) . Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:42:35 +0200 From: Danny Braniss Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > rmt protocol doesn't handle changer commands. > > You want to start looking at things like NDMP instead. i know that rmt does not support it, but then again it's a a very small program that could be made to understand it. i also had a look at NDMP in the past, which is more ambitious, but as far as i can remember, it does not realy support changers. danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 9:41: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-out.fr.alcove.com (ns1.alcove-solutions.com [212.155.209.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05E137B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from cedar.alcove-fr ([10.16.10.12]) by smtp-out.fr.alcove.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 165sOv-0005VE-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:40:09 +0100 Received: from nsouch by cedar.alcove-fr with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 165sOv-0004x5-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:40:09 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:40:09 +0100 From: Nicolas Souchu To: giffunip@asme.org Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Framebuffer device under FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20011119184009.Q1636@cedar.alcove-fr> References: <20011109171600.85058.qmail@web13409.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20011109171600.85058.qmail@web13409.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alc=F4ve?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=2C?= http://www.alcove.com Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 09:16:00AM -0800, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > >> Framebuffer devices, etc... > > Actually this discussion is moot: there has been an > important advance in porting KGI to FreeBSD. > > Check the developers list archives in > http://kgi.sourceforge.net/ > > For those lazy: it's not here yet, but FreeBSD 5.0 will > have kick ass graphics! Just to add this link (I have to update it with recent progress which is described in the kgi ML archive): http://people.freebsd.org/~nsouch/ggiport.html Note that a Linuxfb emulation layer should not be too hard with KGI. Please join the kgi ML, I immediatly ask the question there. Nicholas -- Alcôve Technical Manager - Nicolas.Souchu@fr.alcove.com - http://www.alcove.com FreeBSD Developer - nsouch@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 10: 3:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79F737B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:03:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 3B88281D0A; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:03:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:03:02 -0600 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Anjali Kulkarni Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcpdump Message-ID: <20011119120302.P13393@elvis.mu.org> References: <001701c170dd$71b11ac0$0a00a8c0@indranet> <20011119033819.N13393@elvis.mu.org> <006301c170e4$4c4fb0f0$0a00a8c0@indranet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <006301c170e4$4c4fb0f0$0a00a8c0@indranet>; from anjali@indranetworks.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:53:23PM +0530 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Anjali Kulkarni [011119 04:25] wrote: > > Right! I am on a switch on a small n/w connected to another switch > which has a larger n/w connected to it. Will using the hub decrease > my response time for fetching web pages? (They are not large pages) A hub will cause slowdown, but probably not so much that your browsing is notiably effected. -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 15: 6:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0820337B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:06:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22533 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2001 23:06:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Nov 2001 23:06:38 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:06:28 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Ok, who broke timed? Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does timed have some major 64 bit issues or something? Trying to run timed on my 5.0 alpha from a 4.4 x86 box proves disastrous. 5.0 x86 clients work fine. The alpha keeps getting its date set back into 1970: Nov 19 14:06:02 baz timed[379]: slave to in.cx Jan 2 21:35:41 baz timed[379]: date changed by in.cx from Mon Nov 19 14:06:02 2001 19 Nov 14:07:49 ntpdate[533]: step time server 216.34.144.7 offset 1006002718.410080 sec (I ran ntpdate manually after killing timed.) On x86 the messages look like so: Nov 19 13:14:05 deimos timed[425]: slave to server.baldwin.cx Nov 19 13:13:42 deimos timed[425]: date changed by server.baldwin.cx from Mon Nov 19 13:14:05 2001 And work fine. Also, FWIW, timed spits out a bunch of unaligned access warnings when it starts up on alpha. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 16:36:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mailc.telia.com (mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EEF37B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailc.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAK0aHs04434 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:36:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA10947 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:36:16 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 33399 invoked by uid 1001); 20 Nov 2001 00:36:14 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:36:14 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: John Baldwin Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Ok, who broke timed? Message-ID: <20011120003613.GA29465@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: John Baldwin , hackers@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:06:28PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > Does timed have some major 64 bit issues or something? Trying to run timed on > my 5.0 alpha from a 4.4 x86 box proves disastrous. 5.0 x86 clients work fine. > The alpha keeps getting its date set back into 1970: After quick look at the source I would say that timed has some major 64 bit issues. As far as I can tell timed sends/receives a 'struct tsp' after adjusting it for byteorder but not for wordsize. This struct is defined in as struct tsp { u_char tsp_type; u_char tsp_vers; u_short tsp_seq; union { struct timeval tspu_time; char tspu_hopcnt; } tsp_u; char tsp_name[MAXHOSTNAMELEN]; }; and struct timeval is defined in as struct timeval { long tv_sec; /* seconds */ long tv_usec; /* and microseconds */ }; Since 'long' is 32-bit on x86 and 64-bits on Alpha this means that "interesting" things seem likely to happen if one tries to send a 'long' between machines when they don't agree on how large a 'long' is. > > Nov 19 14:06:02 baz timed[379]: slave to in.cx > Jan 2 21:35:41 baz timed[379]: date changed by in.cx from Mon Nov 19 14:06:02 > 2001 > 19 Nov 14:07:49 ntpdate[533]: step time server 216.34.144.7 offset > 1006002718.410080 sec > > (I ran ntpdate manually after killing timed.) > > On x86 the messages look like so: > > Nov 19 13:14:05 deimos timed[425]: slave to server.baldwin.cx > Nov 19 13:13:42 deimos timed[425]: date changed by server.baldwin.cx from Mon > Nov 19 13:14:05 2001 > > And work fine. Also, FWIW, timed spits out a bunch of unaligned access > warnings when it starts up on alpha. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 16:46:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mta08.onebox.com (mta08.onebox.com [64.68.76.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5B137B41D for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:46:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from onebox.com ([10.1.111.6]) by mta08.onebox.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20011120004616.SXFY16107.mta08.onebox.com@onebox.com> for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:46:16 -0800 Received: from [66.32.46.252] by onebox.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:46:16 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:46:16 -0800 Subject: FreeBSD (as a Guest OS), VMware & X11 From: "Glenn Gombert" To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20011120004616.SXFY16107.mta08.onebox.com@onebox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In case anyone is interested...I have X11 running with FreeBSD as a Guest operating system under Win2K......the current XFree86 server (v 4.101) that is in the ports collection, runs ok with the generic wm that comes with XFree86, when I try and run KDE under 'Current' I get .. /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 Undefined symbol "__stderrp"...for some reason ... GG. -- Glenn Gombert glenngombert@onebox.com - email (513) 587-2643 x2263 - voicemail/fax __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 16:51:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B636937B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1949 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2001 00:51:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Nov 2001 00:51:39 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20011120003613.GA29465@student.uu.se> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:51:29 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Erik Trulsson Subject: Re: Ok, who broke timed? Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 20-Nov-01 Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:06:28PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >> Does timed have some major 64 bit issues or something? Trying to run timed >> on >> my 5.0 alpha from a 4.4 x86 box proves disastrous. 5.0 x86 clients work >> fine. >> The alpha keeps getting its date set back into 1970: > > After quick look at the source I would say that timed has some major 64 > bit issues. > As far as I can tell timed sends/receives a 'struct tsp' after > adjusting it for byteorder but not for wordsize. This struct is > defined in as > > struct tsp { > u_char tsp_type; > u_char tsp_vers; > u_short tsp_seq; > union { > struct timeval tspu_time; > char tspu_hopcnt; > } tsp_u; > char tsp_name[MAXHOSTNAMELEN]; > }; > > and struct timeval is defined in as > > struct timeval { > long tv_sec; /* seconds */ > long tv_usec; /* and microseconds */ > }; That looks very promising indeed. Hrmm. I should go see if NetBSD has fixed this. I guess having timeval be different sizes on different archs is a bit of a pain. :( Perhaps it should use uint32_t? Or perhaps struct tsp should use its own variant of timeval with uint32_t or some such. Ugh. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 17: 0:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from InterJet.elischer.org (c421509-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.7.86.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A5C37B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:00:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA29999; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:58:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:58:55 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Glenn Gombert Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD (as a Guest OS), VMware & X11 In-Reply-To: <20011120004616.SXFY16107.mta08.onebox.com@onebox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Glenn Gombert wrote: > > In case anyone is interested...I have X11 running with FreeBSD as a Guest > operating system under Win2K......the current XFree86 server (v 4.101) > that is in the ports collection, runs ok with the generic wm that comes > with XFree86, when I try and run KDE under 'Current' I get .. > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 Undefined symbol "__stderrp"...for some > reason ... don't worry this breakage is all over the place.. Almost nothing runs on -current because of it... (well.. you can get them going with some kludges but old binaries don't work by default, instead of "working by default I think it's in UPDATING somewhere but I forget what it was.. :-( > > GG. > > -- > Glenn Gombert > glenngombert@onebox.com - email > (513) 587-2643 x2263 - voicemail/fax > > > > __________________________________________________ > FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. > Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 17: 2: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from ussenterprise.ufp.org (ussenterprise.ufp.org [208.185.30.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDE437B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:02:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bicknell@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fAK120n34024 for hackers@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:02:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bicknell) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:02:00 -0500 From: Leo Bicknell To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ok, who broke timed? Message-ID: <20011119200200.A33416@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Mail-Followup-To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011120003613.GA29465@student.uu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:51:29PM -0800 Organization: United Federation of Planets Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:51:29PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > That looks very promising indeed. Hrmm. I should go see if NetBSD has fixed > this. I guess having timeval be different sizes on different archs is a bit of > a pain. :( Perhaps it should use uint32_t? Or perhaps struct tsp should use > its own variant of timeval with uint32_t or some such. Ugh. If timeval is different sizes on different archs then I would recomend the work be done take it to 64 bits, not 32. It fixes a problem in about 30 years. :-) -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 17:32:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.14.150.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F0B37B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:32:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAK1WKM44496 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:32:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B3D3811; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:32:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Glenn Gombert" Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD (as a Guest OS), VMware & X11 In-Reply-To: <20011120004616.SXFY16107.mta08.onebox.com@onebox.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:32:20 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20011120013220.93B3D3811@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Glenn Gombert" wrote: > > In case anyone is interested...I have X11 running with FreeBSD as a Guest > operating system under Win2K......the current XFree86 server (v 4.101) > that is in the ports collection, runs ok with the generic wm that comes > with XFree86, when I try and run KDE under 'Current' I get .. > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 Undefined symbol "__stderrp"...for some > reason ... Be sure you have COMPAT4X=yes in /etc/make.conf. If you didn't, then do this: cd /usr/src/lib/compat/compat4x.i386 make obj make all make install Then all __stderrp etc stuff will go away, except for some *really* binaries that use libc_r.so.3 Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 17:41:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA40937B41A; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4AF1166D56; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:41:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:41:38 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: John Baldwin Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ok, who broke timed? Message-ID: <20011119174137.A87826@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:06:28PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:06:28PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > Does timed have some major 64 bit issues or something? Trying to > run timed on my 5.0 alpha from a 4.4 x86 box proves disastrous. 5.0 > x86 clients work fine. The alpha keeps getting its date set back > into 1970: It's probably never worked like that. The timed protocol is pretty crufty and unportable. Kris --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+bTRWry0BWjoQKURAkJ9AJ9nnpx9p2zXW0H2kPg55kwmpoQcBgCdHjxh yhCRCuO1qc5SjpjXeARhVSA= =qsRB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 17:57:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail11.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2536737B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:57:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8037 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2001 01:57:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Nov 2001 01:57:17 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20011119174137.A87826@xor.obsecurity.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:57:06 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Ok, who broke timed? Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 20-Nov-01 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:06:28PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >> Does timed have some major 64 bit issues or something? Trying to >> run timed on my 5.0 alpha from a 4.4 x86 box proves disastrous. 5.0 >> x86 clients work fine. The alpha keeps getting its date set back >> into 1970: > > It's probably never worked like that. The timed protocol is pretty > crufty and unportable. NetBSD fixed it to use fixed width sizes. I'm trying to port it but I think I'm missing bits. Now it sets the time to 2023 instead of 1970 however. *sigh* > Kris -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 17:57:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B86837B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:57:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32421 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2001 01:57:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Nov 2001 01:57:14 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20011119200200.A33416@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:57:04 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Leo Bicknell Subject: Re: Ok, who broke timed? Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 20-Nov-01 Leo Bicknell wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:51:29PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >> That looks very promising indeed. Hrmm. I should go see if NetBSD has >> fixed >> this. I guess having timeval be different sizes on different archs is a bit >> of >> a pain. :( Perhaps it should use uint32_t? Or perhaps struct tsp should >> use >> its own variant of timeval with uint32_t or some such. Ugh. > > If timeval is different sizes on different archs then I would > recomend the work be done take it to 64 bits, not 32. It fixes a > problem in about 30 years. :-) We'll cross that bridge when it comes to it, right now we need to not break binary compatibility with all those existing 4.x machines out there right now. Also, NetBSD used int32_t to be consistent. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 18: 3:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from outland.cyberwar.com (outland.cyberwar.com [208.17.174.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B19137B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:03:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from nj.cyberwar.com (nj.devilsrule.com [216.46.71.97]) by outland.cyberwar.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAK23Y583148 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:03:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011119210041.00ab9ec0@pop3.cyberwar.com> X-Sender: billg@pop.cyberwar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:03:38 -0500 To: hackers@freebsd.org From: "Bill G." Subject: vmware boot problem (xp host, freebsd guest) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am having trouble getting FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE to run in vmware. I am using Windows XP Pro as the host os, vmware version 3, and FreeBSD as the guest os. I tried searching the mailing lists, but was unsuccessful in finding the answer to this problem. FreeBSD installs, but will not boot - it just hangs, with no errors. All suggestions / solutions appreciated. Thanks, Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 18:31:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381A537B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:31:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EDDCA66EE7; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:31:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:31:36 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: John Baldwin Cc: Kris Kennaway , hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Ok, who broke timed? Message-ID: <20011119183136.B88373@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011119174137.A87826@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 05:57:06PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 05:57:06PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >=20 > On 20-Nov-01 Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:06:28PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > >> Does timed have some major 64 bit issues or something? Trying to > >> run timed on my 5.0 alpha from a 4.4 x86 box proves disastrous. 5.0 > >> x86 clients work fine. The alpha keeps getting its date set back > >> into 1970: > >=20 > > It's probably never worked like that. The timed protocol is pretty > > crufty and unportable. >=20 > NetBSD fixed it to use fixed width sizes. I'm trying to port it but I th= ink > I'm missing bits. Now it sets the time to 2023 instead of 1970 however. = *sigh* Getting closer..now you're only 22 years out instead of 31 :-) Kris --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+cCIWry0BWjoQKURAucdAJ4gIdtT1o1ILHtUh/GH869hMJhxzwCgv9Bs a6SKpMEsuluUtdMCT5Hy6Dc= =PGCq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 21:22:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.14.150.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFC737B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:22:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAK5MaM45308 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:22:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C73C3811; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:22:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Leo Bicknell Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ok, who broke timed? In-Reply-To: <20011119200200.A33416@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:22:36 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20011120052236.0C73C3811@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Leo Bicknell wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:51:29PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > That looks very promising indeed. Hrmm. I should go see if NetBSD has fix ed > > this. I guess having timeval be different sizes on different archs is a bi t of > > a pain. :( Perhaps it should use uint32_t? Or perhaps struct tsp should u se > > its own variant of timeval with uint32_t or some such. Ugh. > > If timeval is different sizes on different archs then I would > recomend the work be done take it to 64 bits, not 32. It fixes a > problem in about 30 years. :-) Unfortunately, it isn't our on-the-wire protocol to modify. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 22: 6:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C3337B41B for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8795 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2001 06:06:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Nov 2001 06:06:14 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20011119183136.B88373@xor.obsecurity.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:06:04 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Ok, who broke timed? Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 20-Nov-01 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 05:57:06PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >> >> On 20-Nov-01 Kris Kennaway wrote: >> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:06:28PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >> >> Does timed have some major 64 bit issues or something? Trying to >> >> run timed on my 5.0 alpha from a 4.4 x86 box proves disastrous. 5.0 >> >> x86 clients work fine. The alpha keeps getting its date set back >> >> into 1970: >> > >> > It's probably never worked like that. The timed protocol is pretty >> > crufty and unportable. >> >> NetBSD fixed it to use fixed width sizes. I'm trying to port it but I think >> I'm missing bits. Now it sets the time to 2023 instead of 1970 however. >> *sigh* > > Getting closer..now you're only 22 years out instead of 31 :-) Heh. Still truncating the server name to 'in.baldwin.cx' however, so perhaps it is an alignment issue. *grump* > Kris -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 23:15:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail11.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BD837B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25302 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2001 07:15:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Nov 2001 07:15:19 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:15:06 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: John Baldwin Subject: Re: Ok, who broke timed? Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, Kris Kennaway Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 20-Nov-01 John Baldwin wrote: > > On 20-Nov-01 Kris Kennaway wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 05:57:06PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >>> >>> On 20-Nov-01 Kris Kennaway wrote: >>> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:06:28PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >>> >> Does timed have some major 64 bit issues or something? Trying to >>> >> run timed on my 5.0 alpha from a 4.4 x86 box proves disastrous. 5.0 >>> >> x86 clients work fine. The alpha keeps getting its date set back >>> >> into 1970: >>> > >>> > It's probably never worked like that. The timed protocol is pretty >>> > crufty and unportable. >>> >>> NetBSD fixed it to use fixed width sizes. I'm trying to port it but I >>> think >>> I'm missing bits. Now it sets the time to 2023 instead of 1970 however. >>> *sigh* >> >> Getting closer..now you're only 22 years out instead of 31 :-) > > Heh. Still truncating the server name to 'in.baldwin.cx' however, so perhaps > it is an alignment issue. *grump* > >> Kris Nope, typo. I had u_int64_t in place of u_short instead of u_int64_t. *sigh* -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Nov 19 23:20:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DC437B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:20:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11348 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2001 07:20:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Nov 2001 07:20:20 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:20:11 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: John Baldwin Subject: Re: Ok, who broke timed? Cc: Kris Kennaway , hackers@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 20-Nov-01 John Baldwin wrote: > > On 20-Nov-01 John Baldwin wrote: >> >> On 20-Nov-01 Kris Kennaway wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 05:57:06PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >>>> >>>> On 20-Nov-01 Kris Kennaway wrote: >>>> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:06:28PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >>>> >> Does timed have some major 64 bit issues or something? Trying to >>>> >> run timed on my 5.0 alpha from a 4.4 x86 box proves disastrous. 5.0 >>>> >> x86 clients work fine. The alpha keeps getting its date set back >>>> >> into 1970: >>>> > >>>> > It's probably never worked like that. The timed protocol is pretty >>>> > crufty and unportable. >>>> >>>> NetBSD fixed it to use fixed width sizes. I'm trying to port it but I >>>> think >>>> I'm missing bits. Now it sets the time to 2023 instead of 1970 however. >>>> *sigh* >>> >>> Getting closer..now you're only 22 years out instead of 31 :-) >> >> Heh. Still truncating the server name to 'in.baldwin.cx' however, so >> perhaps >> it is an alignment issue. *grump* >> >>> Kris > > Nope, typo. I had u_int64_t in place of u_short instead of u_int64_t. > *sigh* s/64/16/2, YKWIM. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 20 4: 8:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from hoolan.org (db217.csie.ncu.edu.tw [140.115.50.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C53937B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:06:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hoolan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKC6N911569 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:06:34 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from jeff@hoolan.org) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:06:23 +0800 (CST) From: freebsd@hoolan.org X-Sender: jeff@hoolan.org To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: c++ compiler allocates uninitialized global variable in .data section Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I found that c++ compiler (4.4-RELEASE) allocates uninitialized global variable in the data section instead of the bss section. Here is my code sample (b.cpp): char aa[1024*1024*10]; void f(void) { } after c++ -c b.cpp I get a nearly 10MB object file, whereas on linux (RedHat 7.2, gcc-2.96-98) it produces a file less than 1kB. So I assemble it to find the diffenece. on FreeBSD: .globl aa .data .p2align 5 .type aa,@object .size aa,10485760 aa: .zero 10485760 but on Linux: .globl aa .bss .align 32 .type aa,@object .size aa,10485760 aa: .zero 10485760 In consequence, that's why I get a huge object file with FreeBSD c++. Is this behavior of c++ correct? I suppose uninitialized data should goes to .bss section according to elf(5). Regards, Jeffrey Tang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 20 4:56:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mta07.onebox.com (mta07.onebox.com [64.68.77.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0600037B41C for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from onebox.com ([10.1.101.11]) by mta07.onebox.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20011120125602.INJT26106.mta07.onebox.com@onebox.com>; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:56:02 -0800 Received: from [165.121.195.28] by onebox.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:56:02 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:56:02 -0800 Subject: Re: vmware boot problem (xp host, freebsd guest) From: "Glenn Gombert" To: "Bill G." Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20011120125602.INJT26106.mta07.onebox.com@onebox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here is a patch that was posted to the list a couple weeks ago, that needs to be applied to make FreeBSD uner vmware work reliably.. In message <20011113165944.G52323-100000@fledge.watson.org>, Robert Watsonwrit es: >I've had -STABLE run fine, but of late have had a lot of trouble with >-current. Userland processes during the boot sequence seem to spenda lot >of time just spinning -- it's not clear to me what the cause is, andI >haven't had time to debug. Someone mentioned on a list somewhere that vmware takes forever to emulate the cmpxchg instruction, and that using the I386_CPU version of atomic_cmpset_int() helps a lot. I noticed a major vmware slowdown with -current sometime in September, so I tried avoiding the cmpxchg's and things got much faster. Below is the patch I use (using this outside vmware on SMP hardware is a bad idea :-). Ian Index: atomic.h =================================================================== RCS file: /dump/FreeBSD-CVS/src/sys/i386/include/atomic.h,v retrieving revision 1.21 diff -u -r1.21 atomic.h --- atomic.h 2001/10/08 20:58:24 1.21 +++ atomic.h 2001/10/09 18:35:25 @@ -111,7 +111,7 @@ * Returns 0 on failure, non-zero on success */ -#if defined(I386_CPU) +#if defined(I386_CPU) || 1 static __inline int atomic_cmpset_int(volatile u_int *dst, u_int exp, u_int src) { ---- "Bill G." wrote: > > I am having trouble getting FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE to run in > vmware. I am using Windows XP Pro as the host os, vmware > version 3, and FreeBSD as the guest os. I tried searching > the mailing lists, but was unsuccessful in finding the > answer to this problem. > > FreeBSD installs, but will not boot - it just hangs, with > no errors. > > All suggestions / solutions appreciated. Thanks, > > Bill > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 20 5:28:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from out006pub.verizon.net (out006pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87E937B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:28:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from bellatlantic.net (pool-151-198-135-27.mad.east.verizon.net [151.198.135.27]) by out006pub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id fAKDQdo17401 Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:26:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3BFA5A81.1A7CDC96@bellatlantic.net> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:28:33 -0500 From: Sergey Babkin Reply-To: babkin@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-19990626-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Gombert Cc: "Bill G." , hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vmware boot problem (xp host, freebsd guest) References: <20011120125602.INJT26106.mta07.onebox.com@onebox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Glenn Gombert wrote: > > Here is a patch that was posted to the list a couple weeks ago, that > needs to be applied to make FreeBSD uner vmware work reliably.. > > In message <20011113165944.G52323-100000@fledge.watson.org>, Robert Watsonwrit > es: > >I've had -STABLE run fine, but of late have had a lot of trouble with > >-current. Userland processes during the boot sequence seem to spenda > lot > >of time just spinning -- it's not clear to me what the cause is, andI > >haven't had time to debug. > > Someone mentioned on a list somewhere that vmware takes forever to > emulate the cmpxchg instruction, and that using the I386_CPU version > of atomic_cmpset_int() helps a lot. I noticed a major vmware slowdown > with -current sometime in September, so I tried avoiding the > cmpxchg's and things got much faster. Below is the patch I use > (using this outside vmware on SMP hardware is a bad idea :-). Is there any reason why don't you just define I386_CPU instead of modifying the header file ? This is done by the line cpu I386_CPU in the config file. Or has the full i386 support been already dropped from the kernel by now (I remember such a discussion on -developers) ? Hm, maybe we should add "VMWARE_CPU" then for inclusion of any Vmware-related optimisations. -SB > > Ian > > Index: atomic.h > =================================================================== > RCS file: /dump/FreeBSD-CVS/src/sys/i386/include/atomic.h,v > retrieving revision 1.21 > diff -u -r1.21 atomic.h > --- atomic.h 2001/10/08 20:58:24 1.21 > +++ atomic.h 2001/10/09 18:35:25 > @@ -111,7 +111,7 @@ > * Returns 0 on failure, non-zero on success > */ > > -#if defined(I386_CPU) > +#if defined(I386_CPU) || 1 > static __inline int > atomic_cmpset_int(volatile u_int *dst, u_int exp, u_int src) > { > > ---- "Bill G." wrote: > > > > I am having trouble getting FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE to run in > > vmware. I am using Windows XP Pro as the host os, vmware > > version 3, and FreeBSD as the guest os. I tried searching > > the mailing lists, but was unsuccessful in finding the > > answer to this problem. > > > > FreeBSD installs, but will not boot - it just hangs, with > > no errors. > > > > All suggestions / solutions appreciated. Thanks, > > > > Bill > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > > __________________________________________________ > FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. > Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 20 8:35:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA63537B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAKGZfa70727; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:35:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKGZb785918; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:35:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200111201635.fAKGZb785918@harmony.village.org> To: freebsd@hoolan.org Subject: Re: c++ compiler allocates uninitialized global variable in .data section Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:06:23 +0800." References: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:35:37 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message freebsd@hoolan.org writes: : I found that c++ compiler (4.4-RELEASE) allocates uninitialized global : variable in the data section instead of the bss section. Here is my : code sample (b.cpp): I think this is a minor bug. FreeBSD will move to 3.0 (or newer) for 5.0-RELEASE which will likely fix this issue. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 20 9:18:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from uni02mr.unity.ncsu.edu (uni02mr.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.1.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0ED37B41A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:18:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from unity.ncsu.edu (uni00wi.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.1.30]) by uni02mr.unity.ncsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/UR01Feb99) with ESMTP id MAA07992 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:18:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200111201718.MAA07992@uni02mr.unity.ncsu.edu> User-Agent: IMHO/0.97.1 (Webmail for Roxen) From: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:18:47 -500 Subject: Related to remote debugging using gdb X-Originating-IP: [4.18.161.14] To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Ive been trying to get to debug the kernel over a serial connection, the environment: two virtual machines running under VMware, connected via a serial port (/dev/pts/0) on the host machine (linux), I first boot the remote machine, then the to debug machine with boot -d, get to db> prompt, then db>gdb , then s, now Im hopefully in the remote protocol that gdb supports. on the remote machine I start gdb -k kernel then gdb> target remote /dev/cuaa0 I keep getting Remote debugging using /dev/cuaa0 Ignoring packet error, continuing... Ignoring packet error, continuing... Couldn`t establish connection to remote target Malformed response to offset query, timeout I looked around for an answer to this, and found Greg Leheys post on the same issue, (his way to reach there looked different though, but the problem seems to be the same) I couldnt find an answer to his post (which is quite old, so surely someone knows about this) Id appreciate any help. (Gregs post included below) thanks Anil ------------------------------------------------------------------------- FROM: Greg Lehey DATE: 12/27/1997 20:24:01 SUBJECT: RE: Remote gdb (was: no boot: config -g and options DDB) On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 01:04:14PM +1100, Bruce Evans wrote: >> On the subject of remote debugging: the handbook entry is missing some >> other important information. I still haven`t been able to get the >> link to work. After considerable digging in the sources, I found that > >> 3. At some point, on the debugged machine, I re-enter the debugger. >> It hangs after the message >> >> Debugger("manual escape to debugger") >> >> and (presumably) waits for communication from the debugging >> machine. >> >> 4. On the debugging machine, I enter >> >> target remote /dev/cuaa0 >> >> I get the messages: >> >> Remote debugging using /dev/cuaa0 >> Ignoring packet error, continuing... >> Ignoring packet error, continuing... >> Couldn`t establish connection to remote target >> Malformed response to offset query, timeout > > Possibly a speed mismatch. 16550s may be required on the debugged machine. > It may work better to do step 3) before 4). As I mentioned in the original message, I tried both ways. >> So what gives? Do I have my serial config wrong? I`ve done >> everything according to the book, and there is no indication, neither >> in the documentation nor in the sources, about how to set up the bit >> rate, character size and such. I assume somebody has got this to >> work, but I can`t work out how. > > Speed setting is fully doc^H^H^Hcoded in the sources. Well, no. In fact, there`s no evidence that ddb sets the speed at all. The gdb command just sets a flag, and when I hit the next trap I end up in gdb_handle_exception, but it doesn`t seem to set anything either. > It may work better to use a serial console or boot with -D. Interesting. I tried that, and it had *no* effect. If I understand it correctly, it should duplicate the boot messages onto a serial console. I had a cu waiting, but it saw nothing. I will investigate. > The speed will then be set by the boot blocks, and the kernel will > use the same speed (if it agrees with the boot blocks about the > port), and the h/w speed will be initialized (-current neglects to > initialize when the speed registers wouldn`t change, but this may > leave the h/w behind the registers uninitialized after reset). I think that this is basically broken. When ddb goes to gdb after a trap, it shouldn`t make any assumptions about what somebody else might have done. It should save the current UART registers, set what it wants, and restore the old contents on return. Sure, it`s unlikely you`re going to debug something over the line that it`s using, but anything else is unclean. I`ll take a look at it, but first I want to understand why it`s not working now. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 20 10:27:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from h132-197-97-45.gte.com (h132-197-179-27.gte.com [132.197.179.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AFA37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ak03@localhost) by h132-197-97-45.gte.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fAKIQpA89350; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:26:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ak03) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.1 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200111201718.MAA07992@uni02mr.unity.ncsu.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:26:51 -0500 (EST) Organization: Verizon Laboratories Inc. From: "Alexander N. Kabaev" To: ahdaswan@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: RE: Related to remote debugging using gdb Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are you sure you have the serial port configured identically on both ends? Does tip work correctly between nodes? What OS is running is your host mashine? FreeBSD has a very nice nmdm virtual serial port driver, which allows VMWare guests to communicate with host and presumably with each other without the need of serial cable, so if your host OS is FreeBSD, you might want to take advantage of that :). /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/.gdbinit* files make excellent starting point for someone wanting to gebug FreeBSD kernel remotely. You might want to check them out. Please make sure that you have run set remotebaud command in gdb with the baud speed matching the value with which your port has been configured (it should match option CONSPEED value in your kernel config file). I was getting exactly the same errors until I figured out what was going wrong. Greg Lehey's .gdbinit files, modified appropriately, will take care of that for you. I am not sure remote debugging is possible between Linux and FreeBSD though. I only have experience using two FreeBSD boxes or FreeBSD host/FreeBSD guest pair under VMWare. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 20 10:57:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F21337B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:57:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1cust168.tnt1.pasadena.ca.da.uu.net ([63.28.226.168] helo=fire) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166G4s-0007Q6-00 for hackers@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:57:03 -0800 Message-ID: <003c01c17216$bd891850$6503c23f@fire> From: "Matthew" To: Subject: stange probelm with vmstat Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:57:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got strnage problem with vmstat in 4.1 stable. I got : undefined symbols: _kememstatistics, _bucket, _zlist error mesg. I checked the kernel with nm: it says: 0xxxx b symbol. All three are in there. I checked the device file in /dev and the sgid on vmstat. Everything right. Can any one tell what i did thtat messed up my 4.1? -------------------------------------------------- WWW.XGFORCE.COM, The Leader in System Clustering Technology -------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 20 12:28:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D3A37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.11.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fAKKSlg53766; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:28:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:28:47 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Matthew Cc: Subject: Re: stange probelm with vmstat In-Reply-To: <003c01c17216$bd891850$6503c23f@fire> Message-ID: X-All-Your-Base: are belong to us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Matthew wrote: > I got strnage problem with vmstat in 4.1 stable. I got : > undefined symbols: _kememstatistics, _bucket, _zlist > error mesg. I checked the kernel with nm: it says: 0xxxx b symbol. > > All three are in there. I checked the device file in /dev and the sgid on > vmstat. > Everything right. Can any one tell what i did thtat messed up my 4.1? This generally happens if you don't boot your kernel with loader(8). Make sure you're booting your kernel the right way ... delete /boot.config, particularly if it mentions your kernel in it. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 20 15:56: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFCE37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:55:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fAKNtTV31156; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:55:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:55:29 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Peter Wemm Cc: Doug White , Sandeep Joshi , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tracking down "BTX halted" Message-ID: <20011120155529.A26293@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011118014125.B5EDA38CC@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011118014125.B5EDA38CC@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@wemm.org on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 05:41:25PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 05:41:25PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > The problem is that you cant *not* get dangerously-dedicated mode. Our > boot1 has got a dangerously-dedicated fdisk table unconditionally compiled > in. You can fix it so that it doesn't crash stuff, but we still shouldn't > be forcing it on people like that. Why haven't we just removed it? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 20 16: 8:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f55.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCBA37B417; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:08:17 -0800 Received: from 205.158.104.176 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:08:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [205.158.104.176] From: "Srinivas Dharmasanam" To: hackers@freebsd.org Cc: n_hibma@freebsd.org Subject: hot swap with ugen Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:08:17 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 00:08:17.0918 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F3D01E0:01C17220] Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm using the generic usb device drive ugen for controlling a USB device. The problem is I'm having to reboot the computer each time I disconnect/connect the device in order for FreeBSD to see the USB device. Is there something specific I need to do with ugen driver to support hot-swap capability of the USB devices. The same USB device works fine with hot-swapt on a Windows machine. I would appreciate any additional information on this. Thanks, -Srinivas _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 20 22:19:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe62.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F40237B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:19:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:19:25 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [24.177.73.27] From: "Ricky Liang" To: Subject: subscribe mailing list. Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:17:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0081_01C17219.93C318B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 06:19:25.0070 (UTC) FILETIME=[777EC2E0:01C17254] Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C17219.93C318B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello, i would like to subscribe the freebsd mailing list.. Thank you ricky liang ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C17219.93C318B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C17219.93C318B0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 0: 3: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0C637B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1cust25.tnt1.pasadena.ca.da.uu.net ([63.28.226.25] helo=fire) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166SLB-0001of-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:02:41 -0800 Message-ID: <003901c17284$7eff61c0$6503c23f@fire> From: "Matthew" To: "Doug White" Cc: References: Subject: Re: stange probelm with vmstat Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:03:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you for the help. But i need the boot.config to have the -P/-H flag in there. Can i put in some other place? What's the right way to use loader. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug White" To: "Matthew" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 8:28 PM Subject: Re: stange probelm with vmstat > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Matthew wrote: > > > I got strnage problem with vmstat in 4.1 stable. I got : > > undefined symbols: _kememstatistics, _bucket, _zlist > > error mesg. I checked the kernel with nm: it says: 0xxxx b symbol. > > > > All three are in there. I checked the device file in /dev and the sgid on > > vmstat. > > Everything right. Can any one tell what i did thtat messed up my 4.1? > > This generally happens if you don't boot your kernel with loader(8). Make > sure you're booting your kernel the right way ... delete /boot.config, > particularly if it mentions your kernel in it. > > Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve > dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 0:19: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.viasoft.com.cn (unknown [61.153.1.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744B337B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:18:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from davidwnt (davidwnt.viasoft.com.cn [192.168.1.239]) by mail.viasoft.com.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA19287 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:25:53 +0800 Message-ID: <00e701c17264$a4617130$ef01a8c0@davidwnt> From: "David Xu" To: Subject: add some constraints in cpufunc.h Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:15:11 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 4.4-stable, file sys/i386/include/cpufunc.h,=20 --- cpufunc.h.orig Wed Nov 21 13:35:36 2001 +++ cpufunc.h Wed Nov 21 15:00:12 2001 @@ -72,7 +72,7 @@ { u_int result; =20 - __asm __volatile("bsfl %0,%0" : "=3Dr" (result) : "0" (mask)); + __asm __volatile("bsfl %0,%0" : "=3Dr" (result) : "0" (mask) : = "cc"); return (result); } =20 @@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ { u_int result; =20 - __asm __volatile("bsrl %0,%0" : "=3Dr" (result) : "0" (mask)); + __asm __volatile("bsrl %0,%0" : "=3Dr" (result) : "0" (mask) : = "cc"); return (result); } =20 @@ -305,7 +305,7 @@ u_int result; =20 __asm __volatile("xorl %0,%0; xchgl %1,%0" - : "=3D&r" (result) : "m" (*addr)); + : "=3D&r" (result) : "m" (*addr) : "cc"); return (result); } -- David Xu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 2:19:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from axel.truedestiny.net (b76168.upc-b.chello.nl [212.83.76.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F14937B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:19:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABF449A24; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:19:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 71E6C49A23; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:19:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:19:02 +0100 From: Axel Scheepers To: Ricky Liang Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: subscribe mailing list. Message-ID: <20011121111901.B96032@mars.thuis> Reply-To: Axel Scheepers References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ricky_liang@hotmail.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:17:52PM -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:17:52PM -0700, Ricky Liang wrote: > i would like to subscribe the freebsd mailing list.. Try majordomo@freebsd.org to subsribe, see the email header below ;) List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: + List-Unsubscribe: + On freebsd.org is a list of all mailinglists. -- Axel Scheepers UNIX System Administrator email: axel@axel.truedestiny.net ascheepers@vianetworks.nl http://axel.truedestiny.net/~axel ------------------------------------------ A psychiatrist is a person who will give you expensive answers that your wife will give you for free. ------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 2:44:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4ADDA37B405; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:44:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 21 Nov 2001 10:44:24 +0000 (GMT) To: Srinivas Dharmasanam Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, n_hibma@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hot swap with ugen In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:08:17 PST." Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:44:24 +0000 From: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <200111211044.aa34424@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Srinivas Dharmasanam writ es: >Hi, >I'm using the generic usb device drive ugen for controlling a USB device. >The problem is I'm having to reboot the computer each time I >disconnect/connect the device in order for FreeBSD to see the USB device. Are you running usbd (usbd_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf)? Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 3: 1:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4D537B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id C477781D05; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:01:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:01:29 -0600 From: Alfred Perlstein To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: patch, please review/test: write support for loader(8) Message-ID: <20011121050129.G13393@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathan Mini sent me a variation of this patch, it implments write support for UFS partitions from loader. Please review/test: http://people.freebsd.org/~alfred/stand.diff -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' http://www.morons.org/rants/gpl-harmful.php3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 6: 8:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from proxy.centtech.com (moat.centtech.com [206.196.95.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8D037B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:08:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sprint.centtech.com (sprint.centtech.com [10.177.173.31]) by proxy.centtech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fALE8d423800 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:08:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from centtech.com (proton [10.177.173.77]) by sprint.centtech.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06336 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:08:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3BFBB55C.1FD3BF07@centtech.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:08:28 -0600 From: Eric Anderson Reply-To: anderson@centtech.com Organization: Centaur Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: kernel config for kern.flp disk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where can I find the kernel config for the kern.flp disk? Also, is there a decent how-to or faq about the boot.flp disk, and how to rebuild your own (using basically theirs, just with an install.cfg thrown in and no userconfig options in the kernel)? Thanks in advance! Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Anderson anderson@centtech.com Centaur Technology An unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys. ------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 6:19: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from pelissero.org (dyn204-40.sftm-212-159.plus.net [212.159.40.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFA237B41B for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wcp@localhost) by pelissero.org (8.11.6/8.9.3) id fALEIj197347; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:18:45 GMT (envelope-from wcp) From: "Walter C. Pelissero" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15355.47042.573852.420151@hyde.lpds.sublink.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:18:42 +0000 To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: tar and nodump flag X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: walter@pelissero.org X-Attribution: WP Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How about adding the nodump flag processing in tar? Something like: --- /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/tar/create.c Wed Aug 11 09:03:39 1999 +++ create.c Wed Nov 21 13:52:54 2001 @@ -817,6 +817,8 @@ strcpy (namebuf + len, d->d_name); if (f_exclude && check_exclude (namebuf)) continue; + if (hstat.st_flags & UF_NODUMP) + continue; dump_file (namebuf, our_device, 0); } Or something like this patch I've submited to the GNU tar mailing list: diff -r -u tar-1.13.orig/src/common.h tar-1.13/src/common.h --- tar-1.13.orig/src/common.h Tue Nov 20 15:04:26 2001 +++ tar-1.13/src/common.h Tue Nov 20 15:14:49 2001 @@ -143,6 +143,9 @@ /* Boolean value. */ GLOBAL int dereference_option; +/* Boolean value. */ +GLOBAL int honor_nodump_option; + /* Patterns that match file names to be excluded. */ GLOBAL struct exclude *excluded; diff -r -u tar-1.13.orig/src/create.c tar-1.13/src/create.c --- tar-1.13.orig/src/create.c Tue Nov 20 15:04:25 2001 +++ tar-1.13/src/create.c Tue Nov 20 15:18:14 2001 @@ -1483,6 +1483,12 @@ if (is_dot_or_dotdot (entry->d_name) || excluded_filename (excluded, entry->d_name)) continue; +#ifdef __FreeBSD__ + /* If file has NODUMP flag set, ignore it. Accordingly skip + the whole tree under a directory. */ + if (honor_nodump_option && (current_stat.st_flags & UF_NODUMP)) + continue; +#endif if ((int) NAMLEN (entry) + len >= buflen) { diff -r -u tar-1.13.orig/src/tar.c tar-1.13/src/tar.c --- tar-1.13.orig/src/tar.c Tue Nov 20 15:04:26 2001 +++ tar-1.13/src/tar.c Tue Nov 20 15:21:57 2001 @@ -187,6 +187,7 @@ {"gunzip", no_argument, NULL, 'z'}, {"gzip", no_argument, NULL, 'z'}, {"help", no_argument, &show_help, 1}, + {"honor-nodump", no_argument, NULL, 'H'}, {"ignore-failed-read", no_argument, &ignore_failed_read_option, 1}, {"ignore-zeros", no_argument, NULL, 'i'}, /* FIXME: --ignore-end as a new name for --ignore-zeros? */ @@ -416,7 +417,7 @@ Y per-block gzip compression */ #define OPTION_STRING \ - "-01234567ABC:F:GK:L:MN:OPRST:UV:WX:Zb:cdf:g:hiklmoprstuvwxz" + "-01234567ABC:F:GHK:L:MN:OPRST:UV:WX:Zb:cdf:g:hiklmoprstuvwxz" static void set_subcommand_option (enum subcommand subcommand) @@ -623,6 +624,12 @@ /* Follow symbolic links. */ dereference_option = 1; + break; + + case 'H': + /* Honor NODUMP flag. */ + + honor_nodump_option = 1; break; case 'i': BTW, the ancient GNU tar (1.11.2) FreeBSD has bundled with the system happens to have a bug that makes it inconvenient with modern tapes. The tape length (option -L) is stored in a signed integer; a DAT DDS-2 is already too big for that. I would recommend to upgrade to the new 1.13, which, together with a brand new set of bugs, introduces the TARLONG type to store such informations as tape length. -- walter pelissero http://www.pelissero.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 7:52: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from spider10.spiderwebhost.net (spider10.spiderwebhost.net [64.95.69.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09ED337B419 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from T23 (dhcp065-029-083-246.indy.rr.com [65.29.83.246]) by spider10.spiderwebhost.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA17735 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:51:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200111211551.KAA17735@spider10.spiderwebhost.net> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:51:31 -0500 From: "Steven M. 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Best regards, Steve Seltzer www.hitecdentist.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 8: 1:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from castle.jp.freebsd.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5DC37B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by castle.jp.freebsd.org (8.9.3+3.2W/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA23736; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:01:30 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <3BFBB55C.1FD3BF07@centtech.com> References: <3BFBB55C.1FD3BF07@centtech.com> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (alfalfa) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 13 From: Makoto Matsushita To: anderson@centtech.com Subject: Re: kernel config for kern.flp disk Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:01:28 +0900 Message-Id: <20011122010128P.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG anderson> Where can I find the kernel config for the kern.flp disk? anderson> Also, is there a decent how-to or faq about the boot.flp anderson> disk, and how to rebuild your own (using basically theirs, anderson> just with an install.cfg thrown in and no userconfig options anderson> in the kernel)? I don't know there is a FAQ about creating custom boot floppies, but if you want to learn right now, read src/release/Makefile carefully. All you want to know are there. -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 9:21:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173AB37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:21:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from Lcycsh@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id n.151.4664112 (4012) for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:21:24 -0500 (EST) From: Lcycsh@aol.com Message-ID: <151.4664112.292d3c94@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:21:24 EST Subject: (no subject) To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 113 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 10:41: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from hoth.ffwd.cx (hoth.ffwd.cx [216.187.116.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A2D37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from skye by hoth.ffwd.cx with local (Exim 3.13 #1) id 166cIu-0008rb-00 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:41:00 -0800 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:41:00 -0800 From: Skye Poier To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: ALS4000 Message-ID: <20011121104100.C33997@ffwd.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-URL: http://www.ffwd.cx/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, (sorry for the xpost) Since I haven't had any help with getting my Intel 82801BA (ICH2) sound to work properly (plays 20% too fast) I went out and bought an ASound Express 32bit PnP sound card (based on the ALS4000 chipset) and dropped that in. I added "device sbc" and "device pcm" to my kernel conf. I also upgraded my kernel to 4.4-RELEASE However after getting it hooked up it has TERRIBLE hissing and clipping, even with all levels gain etc turned down. I tried with/without the CD line in cable and even moved slots to no avail. At least it plays at the right speed, though!! > cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Nov 21 2001 10:02:21 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex) Can anyone help?? This is getting _really_ frustrating. Thanks, Skye -- Clarity of thought should be accompanied by clarity of technique - Mondriaan ffwd internet division - www.ffwd.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 11: 4: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f48.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B53137B416; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:03:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:03:57 -0800 Received: from 205.158.104.176 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:03:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [205.158.104.176] From: "Srinivas Dharmasanam" To: iedowse@maths.tcd.ie Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, n_hibma@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hot swap with ugen Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:03:56 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 19:03:57.0088 (UTC) FILETIME=[45593A00:01C172BF] Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That was it. Thank you. Regards, -Srinivas >From: Ian Dowse >To: Srinivas Dharmasanam >CC: hackers@freebsd.org, n_hibma@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: hot swap with ugen >Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:44:24 +0000 > >In message , Srinivas Dharmasanam >writ >es: > >Hi, > >I'm using the generic usb device drive ugen for controlling a USB device. > >The problem is I'm having to reboot the computer each time I > >disconnect/connect the device in order for FreeBSD to see the USB device. > >Are you running usbd (usbd_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf)? > >Ian _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 11:21: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7AC37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fALJKrP33852; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:20:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fALJHPp1089562; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:17:26 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fALJHPI19629; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:17:25 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fALJHHA08071; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:17:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:17:16 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Matthew Cc: Doug White , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stange probelm with vmstat Message-ID: <20011121201716.C6247@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <003901c17284$7eff61c0$6503c23f@fire> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003901c17284$7eff61c0$6503c23f@fire> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 12:03:04PM -0000, Matthew wrote: > Thank you for the help. > But i need the boot.config to have the -P/-H flag in there. Can i put in > some other place? You can also switch to serial via /boot/loader.rc. I have -h and -D in /boot.config so boot1 is using a serial. These parameters doesn't harm with /boot/loader and /boot/loader inherits them just fine. > What's the right way to use loader. Simply use it. boot1 is able to directly load the kernel instead of /boot/loader just as in old 2.x days but only /boot/loader is able for increased magic. See boot(8) for a full description of the booting process. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 11:39: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail11.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFD337B419 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13297 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 19:38:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Nov 2001 19:38:42 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00e701c17264$a4617130$ef01a8c0@davidwnt> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:38:35 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: David Xu Subject: RE: add some constraints in cpufunc.h Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21-Nov-01 David Xu wrote: > 4.4-stable, file sys/i386/include/cpufunc.h, > > --- cpufunc.h.orig Wed Nov 21 13:35:36 2001 > +++ cpufunc.h Wed Nov 21 15:00:12 2001 > @@ -72,7 +72,7 @@ > { > u_int result; > > - __asm __volatile("bsfl %0,%0" : "=r" (result) : "0" (mask)); > + __asm __volatile("bsfl %0,%0" : "=r" (result) : "0" (mask) : "cc"); > return (result); > } > > @@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ > { > u_int result; > > - __asm __volatile("bsrl %0,%0" : "=r" (result) : "0" (mask)); > + __asm __volatile("bsrl %0,%0" : "=r" (result) : "0" (mask) : "cc"); > return (result); > } > > @@ -305,7 +305,7 @@ > u_int result; > > __asm __volatile("xorl %0,%0; xchgl %1,%0" > - : "=&r" (result) : "m" (*addr)); > + : "=&r" (result) : "m" (*addr) : "cc"); > return (result); > } > Have you had actual bugs as a result of "cc" not being in the constraints? If so, there's a _lot_ more places that need this. All the atomic ops, for example. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 11:39: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42E537B41A for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:38:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23971 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 19:38:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Nov 2001 19:38:40 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20011121050129.G13393@elvis.mu.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:38:35 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Alfred Perlstein , Jonathan Mini Subject: RE: patch, please review/test: write support for loader(8) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21-Nov-01 Alfred Perlstein wrote: > Jonathan Mini sent me a variation of this > patch, it implments write support for UFS partitions from loader. > > Please review/test: > http://people.freebsd.org/~alfred/stand.diff If bcache.c:write_strategy(), I wouldn't update the bcache with the new data unless the call to dv_strategy() suceeded. That is: err = dd->dv_strategy(...); if (err == 0) for (i = 0; i < nblk; i++) bcache_insert(buf + (i * bcache_blksize), blk + i); This may be part of my 4th ignorance, but why did you axe the create_null_terminated_sring functoin in support.4th? In bd_write(), why is the updating of 'p', 'dblk', and 'resid' #if 0'd. This would seem to break writing to a file when it can't be done all at once. In the 5th hunk of ufs.c, you don't free fp->f_buf if the block_map() fails. Other than that it looks great. :) Please fix those and I'll try to test it out and get it committed. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 15: 3:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw3a.lmco.com (mailgw3a.lmco.com [192.35.35.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D070E37B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:03:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from emss01g01.ems.lmco.com ([129.197.181.54]) by mailgw3a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02156; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:02:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #38886) id <0GN600001AOGBN@lmco.com>; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:02:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from cui1.lmms.lmco.com ([129.197.1.64]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #38886) with ESMTP id <0GN600JLYAOBCS@lmco.com>; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ikaika.com (CONNECTICUT1.lmms.lmco.com [129.197.23.84]) by cui1.lmms.lmco.com (8.11.0/8.9.2) with ESMTP id fALN2Y619124; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:02:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:02:49 -0800 From: rick norman Subject: Re: dummynet "pipe show" problem To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-id: <3BFC3299.E7DBA702@ikaika.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: <3BDEF5C5.F5D604C2@lmco.com> <20011030113914.H9665@iguana.aciri.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm still running into lots of problems with this on 4.3. Is it neccessary to introduce a delay in the pipe ? Would a delay of zero work ? Has this been fixed in 4.4 ? Rick Luigi Rizzo wrote: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 10:47:33AM -0800, rick norman wrote: > > Hi, > > I have enclosed a short piece of code that seems to > > reproduce the problem after 5 to 10 minutes. > > I am running 4.3 freebsd off the release cd's. > > Pretty much the generic kernel except for the > > addition of dummynet and ipfw. My platform > > is a dell dimension 4100 with 1ghz p3, though > > I doubt that is relevant. To reproduce the problem, > > compile and run the enclosed code in one window. > > In another window su to root and run "ping -s 1024 -f 127.0.42.1". > > As you will see, the code reports the gowing byte count as one > > would expect. Walk away for 5 to 10 minutes and when you come > > back you should see the state I'm talking about. The flood ping stream > > It _might_ be a locking problem due to the frequent > reconfigurations of the pipe -- i think there was some > fix of this kind related to ipfw commands between 4.3 and 4.4. > I will see if i can reproduce the problem locally (but i have > 4.4). > > You are using dummynet in a very peculiar way: > more precisely, your pipe does not introduce any delay, > and this excludes the scheduler which is part of dummynet. > Also you are using the same pipe for icmp requests > and replies, which are generated within the kernel, so > the behaviour should be quite deterministic in this > respect. > > thanks for the report > > luigi > > > Thanks, > > Rick > > > > ----------------------cut-------------------------------------------- > > > > main() { > > int i; > > > > restart: > > system("ifconfig lo0 -alias 127.0.42.1"); > > system("ifconfig lo0 alias 127.0.42.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"); > > system("ipfw -f flush"); > > system("ipfw pipe 1 delete"); > > system("ipfw add pipe 1 ip from 127.0.42.0/24 to any in"); > > > > for(i=0;i<5;i++) { > > system("ipfw pipe 1 config queue 2048Bytes"); > > sleep(1); > > system("ipfw pipe 1 show"); > > } > > > > goto restart; > > } > > > > --------------------cut-------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 21 23:31:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66D0A37B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:31:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5130 invoked by uid 100); 22 Nov 2001 07:31:43 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15356.43487.331466.734902@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:31:43 -0600 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: sysctls for hardware monitoring? X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In looking over the various options for monitoring the health of the hardware, I notice that it's pretty much a mess. All the software in question runs privileged and grovels through memory in some way. Linux uses a device driver that's a directory full of files holding sensor information. That doesn't seem to be the right direction for FBSD, though. An option that enabled a set of sysctls to collect the information seemed to be more approrpiate. Comments? Suggestions? Brickbats? http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 0:47:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.viasoft.com.cn (unknown [61.153.1.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C32437B418; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from davidwnt (davidwnt.viasoft.com.cn [192.168.1.239]) by mail.viasoft.com.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA23336; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:54:26 +0800 Message-ID: <005201c17331$c603bcd0$ef01a8c0@davidwnt> From: "David Xu" To: "John Baldwin" Cc: References: Subject: Re: add some constraints in cpufunc.h Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:43:34 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to GCC manual of inline assembler instruction, it says if = your instruction changes condition code register(on X86, it's cpu flag register, and a = simple addl=20 instruction can affect it), you'd put cc there, I have reviewed some = source header files of bus management, they all have cc constraint, but others not, = and some=20 lines lost __volatile__ keyword, GCC can feel free to optimize them = and re-order=20 or delete these lines when it thinks this is a right decision, this = could be dangerous when high optimizing option is turned on. -- David Xu ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "John Baldwin" To: "David Xu" Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 3:38 AM Subject: RE: add some constraints in cpufunc.h >=20 > On 21-Nov-01 David Xu wrote: > > 4.4-stable, file sys/i386/include/cpufunc.h,=20 > >=20 > > --- cpufunc.h.orig Wed Nov 21 13:35:36 2001 > > +++ cpufunc.h Wed Nov 21 15:00:12 2001 > > @@ -72,7 +72,7 @@ > > { > > u_int result; > > =20 > > - __asm __volatile("bsfl %0,%0" : "=3Dr" (result) : "0" = (mask)); > > + __asm __volatile("bsfl %0,%0" : "=3Dr" (result) : "0" (mask) = : "cc"); > > return (result); > > } > > =20 > > @@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ > > { > > u_int result; > > =20 > > - __asm __volatile("bsrl %0,%0" : "=3Dr" (result) : "0" = (mask)); > > + __asm __volatile("bsrl %0,%0" : "=3Dr" (result) : "0" (mask) = : "cc"); > > return (result); > > } > > =20 > > @@ -305,7 +305,7 @@ > > u_int result; > > =20 > > __asm __volatile("xorl %0,%0; xchgl %1,%0" > > - : "=3D&r" (result) : "m" (*addr)); > > + : "=3D&r" (result) : "m" (*addr) : "cc"); > > return (result); > > } > >=20 >=20 > Have you had actual bugs as a result of "cc" not being in the = constraints? >=20 > If so, there's a _lot_ more places that need this. All the atomic = ops, for > example. >=20 > --=20 >=20 > John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 0:55:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from gw.tc.ru (gw-tc.gamma.ru [213.24.208.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B044237B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:55:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (alex.it.itn.ru [213.24.252.18]) by gw.tc.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA45881 for hackers@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:55:35 +0300 (MSK) From: "Alexey S. 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beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAM9cRr02461; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:38:27 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:38:27 +0100 (CET) From: Harti Brandt To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysctls for hardware monitoring? In-Reply-To: <15356.43487.331466.734902@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: <20011122103611.V451-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: MM>In looking over the various options for monitoring the health of the MM>hardware, I notice that it's pretty much a mess. All the software in MM>question runs privileged and grovels through memory in some way. MM> MM>Linux uses a device driver that's a directory full of files holding MM>sensor information. That doesn't seem to be the right direction for MM>FBSD, though. An option that enabled a set of sysctls to collect the MM>information seemed to be more approrpiate. MM> MM>Comments? Suggestions? Brickbats? What's bad about using files? Just to be different? Isn't it easier to select, poll, kqueue, what ever on files than on sysctls? harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 2:43:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E9BE37B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7548 invoked by uid 100); 22 Nov 2001 10:43:35 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15356.54999.36663.125374@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:43:35 -0600 To: Harti Brandt Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysctls for hardware monitoring? In-Reply-To: <20011122103611.V451-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> References: <15356.43487.331466.734902@guru.mired.org> <20011122103611.V451-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Harti Brandt types: > On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > MM>Linux uses a device driver that's a directory full of files holding > MM>sensor information. That doesn't seem to be the right direction for > MM>FBSD, though. An option that enabled a set of sysctls to collect the > MM>information seemed to be more approrpiate. > MM>Comments? Suggestions? Brickbats? > > What's bad about using files? Just to be different? Other than having to deal with devfs in -current vs. -stable, nothing in particular. I'm just looking at the trend for doing things in -stable, which is to make read-only data from in the kernel available via sysctls. For example, where Linux has /proc/net/dev and /proc/net/route, FreeBSD uses a sysctl to get the data. >Isn't it easier to select, poll, kqueue, what ever on files than on sysctls? True, but none of the things you've named are useful for these hardware monitors. The only useful thing you can do is read the current value. It occurs to me that there are a couple of other things that might come into play here. One is the work on ACPI in -current. The other is SNMP, if there's a mib for such things. I'm not familiar enough with either to say. Thanx, http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 3: 0:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from step.cg.tuwien.ac.at (step.cg.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.166.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E04237B439 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:59:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from step@localhost) by step.cg.tuwien.ac.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25974 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:59:48 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:59:48 +0100 From: Stephan Mantler To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: meteor driver problems Message-ID: <20011122115948.A25406@step.cg.tuwien.ac.at> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AhhlLboLdkugWU4S" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, i've been experiencing weird problems with the Meteor device driver.. on two machines of the seven we've installed, the METEOR_CAP_SINGLE ioctl locks up the process once in a while (every few hours). after attaching gdb (or breaking into it if the process has been started=20 from gdb), a simple 'cont' is all it takes. the lockup apparently occurs in _thread_sys_ioctl (this is a multi- threaded application); further research lead me to the following snippet in meteor_ioctl() (from pci/meteor.c). the exact line numbers seem to change between FreeBSD-3.0, -3.4 and -4.3, but the tsleep() call is the same. ( approximately line 1610 ) case METEOR_CAP_SINGLE: ( ... sanity checks ...) start_capture(mtr, METEOR_SINGLE); /* wait for capture to complete */ error=3Dtsleep((caddr_t)mtr, METPRI, "capturing", 0); if(error) ( ... ) this doesn't look too suspicious unless the capture doesn't really happen for some reason (as seems to be the case on those machines). tsleep() will just sit there and block the process indefinitely. IMHO a better approach would be to set the timeout to, say, ten frames (ample time even if the frame grabber has just lost sync) and return an error if the capture was unsuccessful. i'll try this on one of the machines i've been having trouble with... comments are of course welcome. best regards, -step --=20 stephan mantler: endurance sports maniac reality is in fact virtual. http://step.wastelander.org/ step@acm.org gnu pgp fingerprint: 0A25 EBE7 8AD3 A65D FEB5 C40E 88F9 DF4C 12CB C848 --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/NqjiPnfTBLLyEgRAvkAAJ4iA9s+eM3U2lQP3XwVlL2wRXT4dQCgw4t+ ygemnYyjoOtLWIvxEVrus2Q= =tcz5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 3: 8:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AE737B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:08:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAMB8Gr21869; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:08:16 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:08:16 +0100 (CET) From: Harti Brandt To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysctls for hardware monitoring? In-Reply-To: <15356.54999.36663.125374@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: <20011122120233.B2946-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: MM>Harti Brandt types: MM>> On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: MM>> MM>Linux uses a device driver that's a directory full of files holding MM>> MM>sensor information. That doesn't seem to be the right direction for MM>> MM>FBSD, though. An option that enabled a set of sysctls to collect the MM>> MM>information seemed to be more approrpiate. MM>> MM>Comments? Suggestions? Brickbats? MM>> MM>> What's bad about using files? Just to be different? MM> MM>Other than having to deal with devfs in -current vs. -stable, nothing MM>in particular. I'm just looking at the trend for doing things in MM>-stable, which is to make read-only data from in the kernel available MM>via sysctls. For example, where Linux has /proc/net/dev and MM>/proc/net/route, FreeBSD uses a sysctl to get the data. It's just annoying to need a special program to get at the values. For some parts of the MIB, like the interface MIB, even sysctl doesn't help - you need to write a program to look at these. I still think, its easier to read the fan speed by cat(1)-ing a file, than to fire up a special program for this. MM>>Isn't it easier to select, poll, kqueue, what ever on files than on sysctls? MM> MM>True, but none of the things you've named are useful for these MM>hardware monitors. The only useful thing you can do is read the MM>current value. Not sure. You could have a file, that gives you events, like 'CPU to hot' or so. The the user space program wouldn't need to poll the values. harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 4:22:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E9D37B405; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:22:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 39DC014C2E; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:22:48 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Bugmeister discussion list From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 22 Nov 2001 13:22:47 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [apologies to those who receive multiple copies of this message] I've set up a buggers@ofug.org mailing list with the following charter: Discussions pertaining to the FreeBSD PR system. The purpose of this list is to serve as an informal forum for discussing policies and mechanisms for PR handling in the context of the FreeBSD Project. To subscribe, send the usual magic incantations to majordomo@ofug.org. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 4:40:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.de (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C1337B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 166t9Z-0000zr-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:40:29 +0100 Received: from peedub.muc.de (520017439985-0001@[217.235.114.33]) by fmrl01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 166t9P-1Y1MqOC; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:40:19 +0100 Received: by peedub.muc.de (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fAMCe1E84723; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:40:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from garyj) Message-Id: <200111221240.fAMCe1E84723@peedub.muc.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Gary Jennejohn Reply-To: garyj@jennejohn.org To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bugmeister discussion list Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:40:01 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 520017439985-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday 22 November 2001 13:22, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > [apologies to those who receive multiple copies of this > message] > > I've set up a buggers@ofug.org mailing list with the following > charter: > This seems like a fatal name for the list considering what buggers means. -- Gary Jennejohn garyj@jennejohn.org gj@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 4:46:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD3D37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 8F65414C50; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:46:33 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: garyj@jennejohn.org Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bugmeister discussion list References: <200111221240.fAMCe1E84723@peedub.muc.de> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 22 Nov 2001 13:46:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200111221240.fAMCe1E84723@peedub.muc.de> Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary Jennejohn writes: > This seems like a fatal name for the list considering what > buggers means. I know perfectly well what it means. I did say the list was informal, didn't I? :) DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 6:43:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from host2.rila.bg (host2.rila.bg [194.141.1.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B8A37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 06:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from earth.rila.bg ([192.168.201.31]) by host2.rila.bg with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:46:44 +0200 Received: from earth.rila.bg (mitko@localhost.rila.bg [127.0.0.1]) by earth.rila.bg (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAM9jff00606 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:45:41 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from mitko@earth.rila.bg) Message-Id: <200111220945.fAM9jff00606@earth.rila.bg> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: hackers@freebsd.org Reply-To: mitko@rila.bg From: "Dimitar Peikov" Subject: sysctl and MAXDSIZ Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:45:38 +0200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2001 10:46:44.0533 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA2C5650:01C17342] Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a need dynamicaly to change maxdatasize limit for user in order to make some experiences on my work. Give me some advise for non-reboot change to do this? I found 'options MAXDSIZ' in LINT that helps me at that moment but as I so at kern/subr_param.c there is : TUNABLE_QUAD_FETCH("kern.maxdsiz", &maxdsiz); but sysctl gives to me no 'kern.maxdsiz' resource. Is there a problem to put this parameter into sysctl (writable) or there are more changes to do to avoid crashes if they appears when change is made? PS: Cc: me because I'm not at the list. -- Dimitar Peikov Programmer Analyst Globalization Group "We Build e-Business" RILA Solutions 27 Building, Acad.G.Bonchev Str. 1113 Sofia, Bulgaria phone: (+359 2) 9797320 phone: (+359 2) 9797300 fax: (+359 2) 9733355 http://www.rila.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 7: 5:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu (web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu [134.129.125.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDC637B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAMF5I796001; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:05:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tinguely) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:05:18 -0600 (CST) From: mark tinguely Message-Id: <200111221505.fAMF5I796001@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, step@acm.org Subject: Re: meteor driver problems In-Reply-To: <20011122115948.A25406@step.cg.tuwien.ac.at> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > i've been experiencing weird problems with the Meteor device driver.. > on two machines of the seven we've installed, the METEOR_CAP_SINGLE > ioctl locks up the process once in a while (every few hours). [deletion] the original metoer card's PCI chipset had a known and uncorrectable hardware incompatibility with PCI 2.0 chipsets that caused lockup. Matrox had to change the components on the next generation of cards and at the time Matrox was not too generous with documentation, so the multimedia developers switched to the Brooktree 848 video capture chipset based cards. My guess every computer that you used to test the card uses the PCI 2.x chipset (a safe guess since it has been a long time since a manufacturer used a PCI 1.x chipset). --mark tinguely. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 8:35:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from step.cg.tuwien.ac.at (step.cg.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.166.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DFC37B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:35:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from step@localhost) by step.cg.tuwien.ac.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00601 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:35:08 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:35:07 +0100 From: Stephan Mantler To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: meteor driver problems Message-ID: <20011122173507.B32065@step.cg.tuwien.ac.at> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <20011122115948.A25406@step.cg.tuwien.ac.at> <200111221505.fAMF5I796001@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111221505.fAMF5I796001@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu>; from tinguely@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 09:05:18AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > the original meteor card's PCI chipset had a known and uncorrectable > hardware incompatibility with PCI 2.0 chipsets that caused lockup. > [...] oh. I'm guessing that it is the Meteor card that locks up; this does make sense. I've realized that since tsleep is called with METPRI (which does include PCATCH) it's fairly obvious that any signal (that's not ignored) will break the process out of the frozen tsleep. So, a properly scheduled SIGALRM .... Still, I don't really see how the Meteor gets out of its lockup. The process simply proceeds to grab the next image (successfully), which hardly resets the frame grabber or suchlike. > My guess every computer that you used to test the card uses the > PCI 2.x chipset. Correct. In fact, they're all identical: Asus P2B-D(S) dual PII mainboards (at various clock speeds), so I'm a bit surprised that I'm only having issues with two of them (so far, *knocking on wood*). Anyway, thanks for the help. -stephan -- stephan mantler: endurance sports maniac reality is in fact virtual. http://step.wastelander.org/ step@acm.org gnu pgp fingerprint: 0A25 EBE7 8AD3 A65D FEB5 C40E 88F9 DF4C 12CB C848 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 8:43:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from taupo.cs.waikato.ac.nz (taupo.cs.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.241.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CB337B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:43:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from joerg@localhost) by taupo.cs.waikato.ac.nz (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fAMGhSS09558; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 05:43:28 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from joerg) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 05:43:28 +1300 From: Joerg Micheel To: Harti Brandt Cc: Mike Meyer , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysctls for hardware monitoring? Message-ID: <20011123054328.A8944@cs.waikato.ac.nz> References: <15356.54999.36663.125374@guru.mired.org> <20011122120233.B2946-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011122120233.B2946-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de>; from brandt@fokus.gmd.de on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 12:08:16PM +0100 Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand Project: WAND, DAG, Passive Measurement and Analysis Operating-System: ... powered by FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Harti Brandt wrote: > It's just annoying to need a special program to get at the values. For > some parts of the MIB, like the interface MIB, even sysctl doesn't help - > you need to write a program to look at these. I still think, its easier to > read the fan speed by cat(1)-ing a file, than to fire up a special > program for this. It really is user convenience against kernel bloat. I have a Linux device driver which tries to provice a /proc entry. The amount of printf() style crap in there is really disgusting and it does not even report half of what it should. I've long ago decided that for anything other than the trivial case a binary interface is the only way one can deal with these situations. It is unfortunate for the few of us who like Plan9, but how big a bitter pill are you prepared to swallow. Joerg -- Joerg B. Micheel Email: WAND and NLANR MOAT Email: The University of Waikato, CompScience Phone: +64 7 8384794 Private Bag 3105 Fax: +64 7 8585095 Hamilton, New Zealand Plan: PMA, TINE and the DAG's To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 8:51:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E6D37B419 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:51:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAMGpAr25963; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:51:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:51:10 +0100 (CET) From: Harti Brandt To: Joerg Micheel Cc: Mike Meyer , Subject: Re: sysctls for hardware monitoring? In-Reply-To: <20011123054328.A8944@cs.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: <20011122174502.R401-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Joerg Micheel wrote: JM>On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Harti Brandt wrote: JM>> It's just annoying to need a special program to get at the values. For JM>> some parts of the MIB, like the interface MIB, even sysctl doesn't help - JM>> you need to write a program to look at these. I still think, its easier to JM>> read the fan speed by cat(1)-ing a file, than to fire up a special JM>> program for this. JM> JM>It really is user convenience against kernel bloat. I have a Linux JM>device driver which tries to provice a /proc entry. The amount of JM>printf() style crap in there is really disgusting and it does not even JM>report half of what it should. I've long ago decided that for anything JM>other than the trivial case a binary interface is the only way one can JM>deal with these situations. It is unfortunate for the few of us who JM>like Plan9, but how big a bitter pill are you prepared to swallow. Files don't have to be ascii, do they? There is hexdump and other stuff. And, reporting fan speed and temperature doesn't seem to be the case for a complicated binrary interface. Taking a Linux driver to argue against something doesn't really make sense. There is so many crap in the Linux kernel, that you can argue against anything: "The crappy unix domain sockets don't work in Linux. Oh yeah, they are a bad idea anyway..." harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 9: 2:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from taupo.cs.waikato.ac.nz (taupo.cs.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.241.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC6C37B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:02:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from joerg@localhost) by taupo.cs.waikato.ac.nz (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fAMH1r910482; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 06:01:53 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from joerg) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 06:01:52 +1300 From: Joerg Micheel To: Harti Brandt Cc: Mike Meyer , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysctls for hardware monitoring? Message-ID: <20011123060152.B8944@cs.waikato.ac.nz> References: <20011123054328.A8944@cs.waikato.ac.nz> <20011122174502.R401-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011122174502.R401-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de>; from brandt@fokus.gmd.de on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 05:51:10PM +0100 Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand Project: WAND, DAG, Passive Measurement and Analysis Operating-System: ... powered by FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 05:51:10PM +0100, Harti Brandt wrote: > Taking a Linux driver to argue against > something doesn't really make sense. There is so many crap in the Linux > kernel, that you can argue against anything: "The crappy unix domain > sockets don't work in Linux. Oh yeah, they are a bad idea anyway..." Delete the offending word Linux from my statement and replace it with "I am maintaining a driver which has /proc support on a freeware UNIX platform." Doesn't change a thing. There are floating point numbers, hex integers, strings and a lot of other misc stuff in there. If you want to work with those numbers, you need to write a parser with scanf() in the best case, yacc/lex in the worst. That really sucks! I have a program that needs the Pentium clock frequency in order to introduce nanoseconds of delay. No sysctl! I need to open and read /proc/cpuinfo. Meaning, the kernel has to do lots more stuff and the user program, too. I can't consider that an advantage. I love *BSD pragmatics. It's closer to the real world. Joerg -- Joerg B. Micheel Email: WAND and NLANR MOAT Email: The University of Waikato, CompScience Phone: +64 7 8384794 Private Bag 3105 Fax: +64 7 8585095 Hamilton, New Zealand Plan: PMA, TINE and the DAG's To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 9:21:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.org.ru (sweet.etrust.ru [194.84.67.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3F037B405; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:21:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by freebsd.org.ru (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7FE4B2C9; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:21:01 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:21:01 +0300 From: "Sergey A. Osokin" To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: const char *tsptype[TSPTYPENUMBER] in "protocols/timed.h" ? Message-ID: <20011122202101.A5211@freebsd.org.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, hackers. What do you think about change the type of tsptype in src/include/protocols/timed.h from (char *) to (const char *) ? $ grep -r protocols/timed.h /usr/src /usr/src/bin/date/netdate.c:#include /usr/src/usr.sbin/timed/timed/byteorder.c: * messages. Protocol is defined in /usr/include/protocols/timed.h /usr/src/usr.sbin/timed/timed/globals.h:#include /usr/src/usr.sbin/timed/timedc/cmds.c:#include After change of tsptype's type, we can build bin/date (with some cosmetics) with WARNS?=2. -- Rgdz, /"\ Sergey Osokin aka oZZ, \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN osa@freebsd.org.ru X AGAINST HTML MAIL http://freebsd.org.ru/~osa/ / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 9:36: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from iguana.aciri.org (iguana.aciri.org [192.150.187.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EE137B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rizzo@localhost) by iguana.aciri.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fAMHVvY47257; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:31:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzo) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:31:57 -0800 From: Luigi Rizzo To: rick norman Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dummynet "pipe show" problem Message-ID: <20011122093157.B47061@iguana.aciri.org> References: <3BDEF5C5.F5D604C2@lmco.com> <20011030113914.H9665@iguana.aciri.org> <3BFC3299.E7DBA702@ikaika.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3BFC3299.E7DBA702@ikaika.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:02:49PM -0800, rick norman wrote: > Hi, > I'm still running into lots of problems with this on 4.3. Is it neccessary > to introduce a delay in the pipe ? Would a delay of zero work ? > Has this been fixed in 4.4 ? Thinking about it, I believe it might be a problem with the routing code, not with dummynet, and it has to do with the fact that you delete and reassign the address to the loopback interface. I am almost sure that 4.4 would cure the problem, because that problem was fixed before 4.4. cheers luigi > Rick > > Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 10:47:33AM -0800, rick norman wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I have enclosed a short piece of code that seems to > > > reproduce the problem after 5 to 10 minutes. > > > I am running 4.3 freebsd off the release cd's. > > > Pretty much the generic kernel except for the > > > addition of dummynet and ipfw. My platform > > > is a dell dimension 4100 with 1ghz p3, though > > > I doubt that is relevant. To reproduce the problem, > > > compile and run the enclosed code in one window. > > > In another window su to root and run "ping -s 1024 -f 127.0.42.1". > > > As you will see, the code reports the gowing byte count as one > > > would expect. Walk away for 5 to 10 minutes and when you come > > > back you should see the state I'm talking about. The flood ping stream > > > > It _might_ be a locking problem due to the frequent > > reconfigurations of the pipe -- i think there was some > > fix of this kind related to ipfw commands between 4.3 and 4.4. > > I will see if i can reproduce the problem locally (but i have > > 4.4). > > > > You are using dummynet in a very peculiar way: > > more precisely, your pipe does not introduce any delay, > > and this excludes the scheduler which is part of dummynet. > > Also you are using the same pipe for icmp requests > > and replies, which are generated within the kernel, so > > the behaviour should be quite deterministic in this > > respect. > > > > thanks for the report > > > > luigi > > > > > Thanks, > > > Rick > > > > > > ----------------------cut-------------------------------------------- > > > > > > main() { > > > int i; > > > > > > restart: > > > system("ifconfig lo0 -alias 127.0.42.1"); > > > system("ifconfig lo0 alias 127.0.42.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"); > > > system("ipfw -f flush"); > > > system("ipfw pipe 1 delete"); > > > system("ipfw add pipe 1 ip from 127.0.42.0/24 to any in"); > > > > > > for(i=0;i<5;i++) { > > > system("ipfw pipe 1 config queue 2048Bytes"); > > > sleep(1); > > > system("ipfw pipe 1 show"); > > > } > > > > > > goto restart; > > > } > > > > > > --------------------cut-------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 11:25:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from web21107.mail.yahoo.com (web21107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFB3337B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:25:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011122192510.8920.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.4] by web21107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:25:10 PST Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:25:10 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: many shit check (ITS A VIRUS!!!) To: hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hey guys... dont open this file... it containes a virus/worm... if possible, barge this email address from all the mailing lists, because the same email address was used to send a virus previously... thanks... ===== regards, Hiten Pandya ---------------------------------------------------- Guys!... stay away from Einstein Junior! ---------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 11:30:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from horse10.daimi.au.dk (horse10.daimi.au.dk [130.225.18.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5584337B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:30:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by horse10.daimi.au.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAMJUNF04700; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:30:23 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:30:23 +0100 From: postmaster@daimi.au.dk Message-Id: <200111221930.fAMJUNF04700@horse10.daimi.au.dk> To: Subject: VIRUS IN YOUR MAIL Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG V I R U S A L E R T Our viruschecker found the 'W32/Aliz-A' virus(es) in your email to the following recipient(s): -> Please check your system for viruses, or ask your system administrator to do so. For your reference, here are the headers from your email: ------------------------- BEGIN HEADERS ----------------------------- Received: from speedy.iie.cnam.fr (system@speedy.iie.cnam.fr [192.70.23.7]) by mbone.iie.cnam.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA06974 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:29:54 +0100 (MET) From: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: by rubis.iie.cnam.fr (MX V4.2 AXP) id 48; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:30:08 MET Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:30:07 MET To: freebsd-hackers-digest@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <00A0571C.F0076603.48@rubis.iie.cnam.fr> Subject: freebsd-hackers-digest V5 #305 -------------------------- END HEADERS ------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 13: 5:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts9.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6101137B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:05:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca ([199.243.149.34]) by tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011122210527.YSBR20714.tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:05:27 -0500 Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAMKvBW41121; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:57:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <001f01c17399$67073280$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Stephan Mantler" , References: <20011122115948.A25406@step.cg.tuwien.ac.at> <200111221505.fAMF5I796001@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> <20011122173507.B32065@step.cg.tuwien.ac.at> Subject: Re: meteor driver problems Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:05:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > My guess every computer that you used to test the card uses the > > PCI 2.x chipset. > > Correct. In fact, they're all identical: Asus P2B-D(S) dual PII > mainboards (at various clock speeds), so I'm a bit surprised that > I'm only having issues with two of them (so far, *knocking on wood*). Well, clock speed could be a factor. Are they all running the same BIOS revision? You may wish to upgrade (or downgrade) them as an experiment. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 15:32:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from acl.lanl.gov (acl.lanl.gov [128.165.147.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D67337B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 884081 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2001 16:32:37 -0700 Received: from snaresland.acl.lanl.gov (128.165.147.113) by acl.lanl.gov with SMTP; 22 Nov 2001 16:32:37 -0700 Received: (qmail 24116 invoked by uid 3499); 22 Nov 2001 16:32:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Nov 2001 16:32:37 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:32:37 -0700 (MST) From: Ronald G Minnich X-X-Sender: To: Harti Brandt Cc: Mike Meyer , Subject: Re: sysctls for hardware monitoring? In-Reply-To: <20011122103611.V451-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Harti Brandt wrote: > What's bad about using files? Just to be different? Isn't it easier to > select, poll, kqueue, what ever on files than on sysctls? /proc files are horrible if you sample at reasonable rates, say 10-100 hz. We found (on Linux, maybe fbsd is better) that sampling rpc.rstatd at 10 hz. ate 10% of a 500 Mhz. PII. ouch. We also found that sampling rpc.rstatd took > 10 MILLISECONDS on the same machine. Moving to sysctl we found we could sample at 1Khz. with no significant load on the machine. See the Supermon paper at ALS2001 for more info. ron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 16:16:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp1.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703F837B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:16:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (i1830.vwr.wanadoo.nl [194.134.215.46]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAN0GrV24679 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:16:53 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3BFD94D9.3F54BC7E@wanadoo.nl> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:14:17 +0000 From: "W.Scholten" Organization: . X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: fujitsu MO drive: DA_Q_NO_SYNC_CACHE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------31DFF4F5ABD322CFF6D5DF" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------31DFF4F5ABD322CFF6D5DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit L.S. I submitted a bugreport & patch for 3.3 /4.1 a year ago, but on installing 4.4 a while back, I found it had not been incorporated. Here it is again as a diff to 4.4. Please apply. Regards, Wouter --------------31DFF4F5ABD322CFF6D5DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="scsi_da.c.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="scsi_da.c.diff" --- /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c.orig Mon Jul 30 02:48:20 2001 +++ /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c Sat Sep 29 00:15:23 2001 @@ -142,6 +142,29 @@ { { /* + * Fujitsu M2513A MO drives don't like the synchronize cache command. + * Tested devices: M2513A2 firmware versions 1200 & 1300. + * + * Note that these drives can report as either optical memory + * or direct access device (dip switch). + * + * W.Scholten + */ + {T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_REMOVABLE, "FUJITSU", "M2513A", "*"}, + /*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_SYNC_CACHE + }, + { + /* + * Fujitsu M2513A MO drive DA_Q_NO_SYNC_CACHE quirk. Optical device. + * (see accompanying 'direct access device' entry above) + */ + {T_OPTICAL, SIP_MEDIA_REMOVABLE, "FUJITSU", "M2513A", "*"}, + /*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_SYNC_CACHE + }, + + + { + /* * This particular Fujitsu drive doesn't like the * synchronize cache command. * Reported by: Tom Jackson --------------31DFF4F5ABD322CFF6D5DF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 18: 1:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2603837B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:01:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16113 invoked by uid 100); 23 Nov 2001 02:01:45 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15357.44552.847847.568773@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:01:44 -0600 To: Harti Brandt Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysctls for hardware monitoring? In-Reply-To: <20011122120233.B2946-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> References: <15356.54999.36663.125374@guru.mired.org> <20011122120233.B2946-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Harti Brandt types: > MM>Harti Brandt types: > MM>> On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > MM>> MM>Linux uses a device driver that's a directory full of files holding > MM>> MM>sensor information. That doesn't seem to be the right direction for > MM>> MM>FBSD, though. An option that enabled a set of sysctls to collect the > MM>> MM>information seemed to be more approrpiate. > MM>> MM>Comments? Suggestions? Brickbats? > MM>> > MM>> What's bad about using files? Just to be different? > MM> > MM>Other than having to deal with devfs in -current vs. -stable, nothing > MM>in particular. I'm just looking at the trend for doing things in > MM>-stable, which is to make read-only data from in the kernel available > MM>via sysctls. For example, where Linux has /proc/net/dev and > MM>/proc/net/route, FreeBSD uses a sysctl to get the data. > > It's just annoying to need a special program to get at the values. For > some parts of the MIB, like the interface MIB, even sysctl doesn't help - > you need to write a program to look at these. I still think, its easier to > read the fan speed by cat(1)-ing a file, than to fire up a special > program for this. Is there really that much difference between "cat /dev/hwmon/fan0" and "sysctl hw.mon.fan.0"? You have to fire up a program in the base system to read the value either way. > MM>>Isn't it easier to select, poll, kqueue, what ever on files than on sysctls? > MM> > MM>True, but none of the things you've named are useful for these > MM>hardware monitors. The only useful thing you can do is read the > MM>current value. > Not sure. You could have a file, that gives you events, like 'CPU to > hot' or so. The the user space program wouldn't need to poll the values. I don't think that's a good design. Extracting temperatures, voltages and so on from the chipset depends only on the chipset. Deciding that some component is out of spec depends on the component, which the driver may not know. So doing this means you need *another* interface to communicate the out of bounds values for the signal, and probably a special program for reading those values from a config file and passing them to the interface. In return, you get a kernel thread polling the hardware instead of a user thread polling hardware. I'd rather keep the kernel part simple, and leave dealing with the values in user space. After all, we already have a nice collection of tools to do that. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. 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Bush, President of the United States September 20, 2001 Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 22 20:19:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431F737B405; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (arr@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id fAN4JP538588; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:19:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from arr@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: arr owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:19:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew R. Reiter" X-Sender: arr@fledge.watson.org To: Doug Barton Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bugmeister discussion list In-Reply-To: <20011122192026.O44004-100000@c101658-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I thought it was normal process for a new FreeBSD mailing list to be hosted on another site until it was deemed beneficial to have @FreeBSD.org host it. Cheers, Andrew On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Doug Barton wrote: :On 22 Nov 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: : :> [apologies to those who receive multiple copies of this message] :> :> I've set up a buggers@ofug.org mailing list : : Any reason this can't/shouldn't be a freebsd.org mailing list? : :-- : "We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail." : - George W. 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To: Doug Barton Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bugmeister discussion list References: <20011122192026.O44004-100000@c101658-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 23 Nov 2001 15:01:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20011122192026.O44004-100000@c101658-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com> Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Barton writes: > On 22 Nov 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > I've set up a buggers@ofug.org mailing list > Any reason this can't/shouldn't be a freebsd.org mailing list? Mostly because setting up a freebsd.org mailing list takes time and I wasn't willing to wait. There will eventually be a bugbusters@ list once I get a bugbuster team organized. 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GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 23 14:19:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.magma.ca (mx2.magma.ca [206.191.0.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0407737B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:19:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail5.magma.ca (mail5.magma.ca [206.191.0.225]) by mx2.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25569; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from durandal (mothership.macadamian.com [206.191.21.204]) by mail5.magma.ca (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id fANMJ2o04854; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:19:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1cb8601c1746d$510f9ec0$2964a8c0@macadamian.com> From: "Louis-Philippe Gagnon" To: Cc: "Stephane Lussier" Subject: pthread_setcanceltype bug? Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:22:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I've encountering a problem using pthread_cancel, pthread_join and pthread_setcanceltype, I'm hoping someone can shed some light. (in a nutshell : pthread_setcanceltype doesn't seem to work) (if there's a more appropriate mailing list for this, please let me know) I recently encountered a situation where, after calling pthread_cancel to cancel a thread, the call to pthread_join hangs indefinitely. I quickly figured out that it was because the thread being cancelled was never reaching a cancellation point (in fact it was an infinite loop with no function calls at all). Sure enough, adding a pthread_testcancel() in the loop allowed pthread_join to return. However this solution isn't acceptable for my requirements. I discovered the pthread_setcanceltype function and its PTHREAD_CANCEL_ASYNCHRONOUS parameter, which looked like they would give me exactly what I needed : allow threads to be cancelled regardless of what they are doing (basically a pthread equivalent to TerminateThread). Unfortunately, my tests have been less than conclusive : pthread_setcanceltype doesn't seem to do anything at all. It tells me it succeeds, subsequent calls properly report the previous cancellation type as ASYNCHRONOUS. But pthread_join still hangs, and adding pthread_testcancel calls still makes it work... I'm working on a FreeBSD 4.4-release machine; I ran the same test under FreeBSD 4.3-release and got the same results. However, running it on a Linux box (Mandrake release, 2.4.x kernel), I get exaclty the results I was expecting (that is, setting the cancellation type to asynchronous allows the thread to be cancelled at any time) see the end of this message for my test program So the questions are -am I doing something wrong or misinterpreting the man pages? -if not, is this a known bug? -if so, is there a workaround (or is it already fixed)? -if not, can someone investigate? (I once had a look at the libc_r code and ran away screaming) If this turns out to be a bug in libc_r, a suggestion for a work-around (even a hack) would be much appreciated, even if a proper fix is found and committed to CVS (requiring an upgrade from 4.4-release installations is something we'd rather avoid). now for some disclaimers : I'm aware that asynchronous cancellations (TerminateThread-style) are an Evil Thing To Do. Unfortunately I have no choice in the matter. I'm aware that there are some strict limitations on what a thread is "allowed" to do while its cancellation type is asynchronous. specifically, it should only call "cancel-safe" functions. Note that in my test program, the thread being cancelled doesn't call any functions at all after setting its cancellation type, so this shouldn't be an issue. now for the code : #include #include /* thread entry point */ void * thread_entry (void *arg) { int i; if(0!=pthread_setcanceltype(PTHREAD_CANCEL_ASYNCHRONOUS,NULL)) { fprintf(stderr,"setcanceltype failed!\n"); } fprintf(stderr,"thread_entry entering loop\n"); while(1) { i++; /* uncomment this to insert a cancellation point */ /* pthread_testcancel();*/ } /* if we see this, it would mean the loop has been optimized out... */ fprintf(stderr, "after loop\n"); } int main(void) { pthread_t thread; pthread_attr_t attr; void *pthread_param; pthread_attr_init(&attr); fprintf(stderr,"creating thread\n"); pthread_create(&thread,&attr,&thread_entry,NULL); fprintf(stderr,"thread created; hit enter to cancel it...\n"); getchar(); fprintf(stderr,"cancelling...\n"); if(0!=pthread_cancel(thread)) { fprintf(stderr,"cancel failed!\n"); } fprintf(stderr,"after cancel, before join...\n"); if(0!=pthread_join(thread,&pthread_param)) { fprintf(stderr,"join failed!\n"); } fprintf(stderr,"after join\n"); } please ask if more details are needed Thanks in advance, Louis-Philippe Gagnon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 23 14:20:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from horse10.daimi.au.dk (horse10.daimi.au.dk [130.225.18.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDB537B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by horse10.daimi.au.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fANMKBO30656; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:20:11 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:20:11 +0100 From: postmaster@daimi.au.dk Message-Id: <200111232220.fANMKBO30656@horse10.daimi.au.dk> To: Subject: VIRUS IN YOUR MAIL Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG V I R U S A L E R T Our viruschecker found the 'W32/Aliz-A' 'W32/Aliz-A' virus(es) in your email to the following recipient(s): -> Please check your system for viruses, or ask your system administrator to do so. For your reference, here are the headers from your email: ------------------------- BEGIN HEADERS ----------------------------- Received: from rubis.iie.cnam.fr (system@rubis.iie.cnam.fr [192.70.23.3]) by mbone.iie.cnam.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA25202 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:19:48 +0100 (MET) From: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: by rubis.iie.cnam.fr (MX V4.2 VAX) id 4; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:20:01 MET Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:20:00 MET To: freebsd-hackers-digest@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <00A057FD.D6728D00.4@rubis.iie.cnam.fr> Subject: freebsd-hackers-digest V5 #306 -------------------------- END HEADERS ------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 23 14:45:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mailbeast.ahaza.com (mailbeast.ahaza.com [209.180.221.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED6937B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:45:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from akira.ahaza.com (akira.ahaza.com [172.16.30.230]) by mailbeast.ahaza.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fANMjBX12197 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:45:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from quark@akira.ahaza.com) Received: (from quark@localhost) by akira.ahaza.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fANMjTe05701 for hackers@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:45:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from quark) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:45:29 -0800 From: Tim Wiess To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with Dual Athlons Message-ID: <20011123144529.A5628@ahaza.com> Mail-Followup-To: hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I've recently put together a dual Athlon system, and unfortunately so far I have had nothing but problems running FreeBSD on it. I have gone through many of the archives in the hackers, bugs, and smp lists, and while most indicate that they have had much success running FreeBSD on dual Athlons, there have been a few cases which were similar to mine. Basically, I am unable to run the system for more than 30 minutes without getting a panic. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 fault virtual address = 0xa0a fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc02218e8 stack pointer = 0x10:0xff80fbc0 frame pointer = 0x10:0xff80fbc0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = bio <- SMP: XXX The instruction pointer points to the worklist_insert routine in the soft updates code. Although I don't think that it's the file system that's really the source of the problem, since I believe I've seen different instruction pointers listed for the same type of panic. In the other cases I was reading about, their panics were also caused by a page fault. Unfortunately it didn't seem like the source of the problem was ever really located. So I thought I would run this by you all and see if anyone had any additional thoughts or suggestions. For the record, I'm running the 1.2Ghz Athlons on a Tyan S2460 board with 256MB of 266Mhz DDR-SDRAM. thanks tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 23 14:46:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from hokkshideh.jetcafe.org (hokkshideh.jetcafe.org [205.147.43.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5472E37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:46:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from hokkshideh.jetcafe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hokkshideh.jetcafe.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02658 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:46:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111232246.OAA02658@hokkshideh.jetcafe.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with version: MH 6.8.4 #1[UCI] To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Clues to where the XFree86 version debate was? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:46:26 -0800 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I put "XFree86" in the search box, found a few references, but no debate. What should I search for if I want to read this? ------ Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<< Politically Correct? Then BITE me! --Unwilling to be quoted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 23 18:23:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts20.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD7E37B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca ([199.243.149.34]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011124022307.IRNQ25459.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:23:07 -0500 Received: from hermes (memmerto@hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAO2ErW44592; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:14:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <001101c1748e$f39830a0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Tim Wiess" , References: <20011123144529.A5628@ahaza.com> Subject: Re: Problems with Dual Athlons Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:23:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tim, If you build a debug kernel and enable crash dumps, then you'll have all the stuff anyone on -hackers will need to help track down your problem. See the FreeBSD Developers Handbook, section 15.1, for information on how to enable crash dumps and perform crash analysis. You can create a debug kernel by doing a "config -g KERNEL" instead of the normal "config KERNEL". -- Matt Emmerton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Wiess" To: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 5:45 PM Subject: Problems with Dual Athlons > Hello all, > I've recently put together a dual Athlon system, and unfortunately so far I > have had nothing but problems running FreeBSD on it. I have gone through many > of the archives in the hackers, bugs, and smp lists, and while most indicate > that they have had much success running FreeBSD on dual Athlons, there have > been a few cases which were similar to mine. Basically, I am unable to run > the system for more than 30 minutes without getting a panic. > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 > fault virtual address = 0xa0a > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc02218e8 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xff80fbc0 > frame pointer = 0x10:0xff80fbc0 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = Idle > interrupt mask = bio <- SMP: XXX > > The instruction pointer points to the worklist_insert routine in the > soft updates code. Although I don't think that it's the file system that's > really the source of the problem, since I believe I've seen different > instruction pointers listed for the same type of panic. > > In the other cases I was reading about, their panics were also caused by a > page fault. Unfortunately it didn't seem like the source of the problem was > ever really located. So I thought I would run this by you all and see if > anyone had any additional thoughts or suggestions. > > For the record, I'm running the 1.2Ghz Athlons on a Tyan S2460 board with > 256MB of 266Mhz DDR-SDRAM. > > thanks > > tim > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 23 20:50:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mailbeast.ahaza.com (mailbeast.ahaza.com [209.180.221.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A176737B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:50:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from akira.ahaza.com (akira.ahaza.com [172.16.30.230]) by mailbeast.ahaza.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAO4oMX12899; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:50:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from quark@akira.ahaza.com) Received: (from quark@localhost) by akira.ahaza.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAO4odY06153; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:50:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from quark) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:50:39 -0800 From: Tim Wiess To: Matthew Emmerton Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with Dual Athlons Message-ID: <20011123205039.A5811@ahaza.com> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Emmerton , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011123144529.A5628@ahaza.com> <001101c1748e$f39830a0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001101c1748e$f39830a0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca>; from matt@gsicomp.on.ca on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 09:23:00PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have crash dumps enabled and had actually already tried do build a debug kernel. Unfortunately I couldn't even get through a complete kernel build without the system panicking. Also, I just noticed that the CPUs I was sold are actually Thuderbird cores (which are not designed for MP environments). That could very well be the source of the problem. I'm going to get them replaced with the Palominos this weekend. We'll see if that makes a difference. On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 09:23:00PM -0500, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > Tim, > > If you build a debug kernel and enable crash dumps, then you'll have all the > stuff anyone on -hackers will need to help track down your problem. See the > FreeBSD Developers Handbook, section 15.1, for information on how to enable > crash dumps and perform crash analysis. You can create a debug kernel by > doing a "config -g KERNEL" instead of the normal "config KERNEL". > > -- > Matt Emmerton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Wiess" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 5:45 PM > Subject: Problems with Dual Athlons > > > > Hello all, > > I've recently put together a dual Athlon system, and unfortunately so far > I > > have had nothing but problems running FreeBSD on it. I have gone through > many > > of the archives in the hackers, bugs, and smp lists, and while most > indicate > > that they have had much success running FreeBSD on dual Athlons, there > have > > been a few cases which were similar to mine. Basically, I am unable to run > > the system for more than 30 minutes without getting a panic. > > > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > > mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 > > fault virtual address = 0xa0a > > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc02218e8 > > stack pointer = 0x10:0xff80fbc0 > > frame pointer = 0x10:0xff80fbc0 > > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > > current process = Idle > > interrupt mask = bio <- SMP: XXX > > > > The instruction pointer points to the worklist_insert routine in the > > soft updates code. Although I don't think that it's the file system that's > > really the source of the problem, since I believe I've seen different > > instruction pointers listed for the same type of panic. > > > > In the other cases I was reading about, their panics were also caused by a > > page fault. Unfortunately it didn't seem like the source of the problem > was > > ever really located. So I thought I would run this by you all and see if > > anyone had any additional thoughts or suggestions. > > > > For the record, I'm running the 1.2Ghz Athlons on a Tyan S2460 board with > > 256MB of 266Mhz DDR-SDRAM. > > > > thanks > > > > tim > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 23 20:59:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.14.150.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42ADF37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:59:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAO4x9M60953 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:59:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2966380D; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:59:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Tim Wiess Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with Dual Athlons In-Reply-To: <20011123144529.A5628@ahaza.com> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:59:08 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20011124045909.F2966380D@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You have neglected to include some critical information, such as what OS you are running. I am wondering if you are running into the 4.4-RELEASE kernel stack overflow problems. Tim Wiess wrote: > Hello all, > I've recently put together a dual Athlon system, and unfortunately so far I > have had nothing but problems running FreeBSD on it. I have gone through many > of the archives in the hackers, bugs, and smp lists, and while most indicate > that they have had much success running FreeBSD on dual Athlons, there have > been a few cases which were similar to mine. Basically, I am unable to run > the system for more than 30 minutes without getting a panic. > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 > fault virtual address = 0xa0a > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc02218e8 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xff80fbc0 > frame pointer = 0x10:0xff80fbc0 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = Idle > interrupt mask = bio <- SMP: XXX > > The instruction pointer points to the worklist_insert routine in the > soft updates code. Although I don't think that it's the file system that's > really the source of the problem, since I believe I've seen different > instruction pointers listed for the same type of panic. > > In the other cases I was reading about, their panics were also caused by a > page fault. Unfortunately it didn't seem like the source of the problem was > ever really located. So I thought I would run this by you all and see if > anyone had any additional thoughts or suggestions. > > For the record, I'm running the 1.2Ghz Athlons on a Tyan S2460 board with > 256MB of 266Mhz DDR-SDRAM. > > thanks > > tim > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 23 21:34:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp [133.30.68.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA7F37B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA81688; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:35:13 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from takawata@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp) Message-Id: <200111240535.OAA81688@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp> To: Andy Sparrow Cc: acpi-jp@jp.freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ACPI causes immediate reboot? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:11:09 PST." <20011124051109.593EE3E31@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:35:13 +0900 From: Takanori Watanabe Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20011124051109.593EE3E31@CRWdog.demon.co.uk>, Andy Sparrow wrote: > >Hi. > >Using ACPI in -CURRENT from yesterday causes an (almost) immediate reboot on >an HP Omnibook 6100. Here's the longest dmesg I've seen from this: > >Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. >Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. >FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Nov 24 18:38:34 PST 2001 > root@tureg.geek4food.org:/home/Current/src/sys/i386/compile/test >Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc04a0000. >Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc04a00b4. >Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 1129541023 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193151 Hz >CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency >Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz >CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method >Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1129577046 Hz >CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (1129.58-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6b1 Stepping = 1 > Features=0x383f9ffP >AT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE> >real memory = 267780096 (261504K bytes) >Physical memory chunk(s): >0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) >0x004c7000 - 0x0ff57fff, 262737920 bytes (64145 pages) >avail memory = 255885312 (249888K bytes) >bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directtwork setup: >pcibios: PCI BIOS ICAST> mtu 16384 >pnpbios: Entry = f0000:a2e4 Rev = 1.0 >pnpbios: Event flag at 4b4 >Other BIOS signatures found: >null: >random: >mem: <118>Routing daemons: >pci_open(1): modogd >pci_cfgchecknal network daemons: Hmmm, then try making acpi module with % make -DACPI_DEBUG then set debug.acpi.debugger=init and debug.acpi.debugger=table in kernel loader and see it reaches to the debugger. If it reaches both point, add Debugger("ACPI"); to applopliate point, like acpi_identify, acpi_probe, acpi_attach . If you like, please send me DSDT dump and ASL produ with acpidump. >Using 'unset acpi_load' or disabling ACPI in device.hints & then later kldload >ing ACPI gives these messages: > >Bold: > >acpi_alloc_wakeup_handler: unable to allocate wake memory >module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (nexus/acpi, c01eb598, 0xc17bcafc) error 1 >pccbb0: at device 5.0 on pci2 >pccbb0: Could not map register memory >device_probe_and_attach: pccbb0 attach returned 12 >pccbb0: at device 5.1 on pci2 >pccbb0: Could not map register memory >device_probe_and_attach: pccbb0 attach returned 12 > >Dim: > >Nov 24 19:40:48 tureg /boot/kernel/kernel: acpi_alloc_wakeup_handler: unable t >o allocate wake memory >Nov 24 19:40:48 tureg /boot/kernel/kernel: module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (nex >us/acpi, c01eb598, 0xc17bcafc) error 1 >Nov 24 19:40:48 tureg /boot/kernel/kernel: pccbb0: > at device 5.0 on pci2 >Nov 24 19:40:48 tureg /boot/kernel/kernel: pccbb0: Could not map register memo >ry >Nov 24 19:40:48 tureg /boot/kernel/kernel: device_probe_and_attach: pccbb0 att >ach returned 12 Don't load acpi module via kldload(8). ACPI requires early boottime initialization and device tree recognition will be deplicated. ACPI module is intended to load by kernel loader. This will make it easier to switch acpi mode kernel and regacy mode. Takanori Watanabe Public Key Key fingerprint = 2C 51 E2 78 2C E1 C5 2D 0F F1 20 A3 11 3A 62 2A To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 23 21:47:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mailbeast.ahaza.com (mailbeast.ahaza.com [209.180.221.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB1537B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from akira.ahaza.com (akira.ahaza.com [172.16.30.230]) by mailbeast.ahaza.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAO5lAX12994; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:47:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from quark@akira.ahaza.com) Received: (from quark@localhost) by akira.ahaza.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAO5lRV06245; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:47:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from quark) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:47:27 -0800 From: Tim Wiess To: Peter Wemm Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with Dual Athlons Message-ID: <20011123214727.A6220@ahaza.com> Mail-Followup-To: Peter Wemm , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011123144529.A5628@ahaza.com> <20011124045909.F2966380D@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011124045909.F2966380D@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@wemm.org on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 08:59:08PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > You have neglected to include some critical information, such as what > OS you are running. Sorry about that. I am using 4.4-STABLE. I also testing 4.3, and still had problems. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 23 22:23:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DD837B418 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1cust10.tnt1.davis.ca.da.uu.net ([63.61.44.10] helo=earthlink.net) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167WEA-0006PO-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:23:50 -0800 Message-ID: <3BFF3E8E.D2A60E88@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:30:38 -0800 From: tipaporiello Reply-To: tipapori@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: pdp-11 unix/rt ldp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -- Hello, I was curious. On my home network I mounted a windows machine. I wanted to learn. I found something I did not understand. Can someone through some stepping stones? I found a file netppp.PNF and used the file command. I got PDP-11 UNIX/RT ldp. It may be obviuos but I'm clueless. What gets me is UNIX/RT ldp. What is it? tipapo mailto:tipapo@hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 23 22:27:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.14.150.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE8837B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAO6RhM61117 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:27:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5799A380D for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:27:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with Dual Athlons In-Reply-To: <20011123214727.A6220@ahaza.com> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:27:43 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20011124062743.5799A380D@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tim Wiess wrote: > > You have neglected to include some critical information, such as what > > OS you are running. > > Sorry about that. I am using 4.4-STABLE. > I also testing 4.3, and still had problems. When did you last cvsup? Please recheck the bios settings and make sure that the memory settings are set to ECC (or ECC-SCRUB if you have that). Tyan for some unknown reason like to have it off by default. My desktop machine at work is a tyan thunder k7 (S2462), I have no trouble with it under FreeBSD. This is essentially the same as yours but you dont have onboard ethernet, scsi or (I think) video. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Nov 24 2:48:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from web21109.mail.yahoo.com (web21109.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A491637B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:48:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011124104812.11118.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.4] by web21109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:48:12 PST Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:48:12 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: Problems with Dual Athlons To: Tim Wiess Cc: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20011123144529.A5628@ahaza.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi.. no offense... but Tyan motherboards are the one which cause the whole problem... did u try to use the kernel option which works around an SMP Bug... try that one... it solved an issue on my friend's system and also someone on the archive... for reference.. the option is: options I4B_SMP_WORKAROUND this should solve your problem... thanks.. regards... Hiten Pandya... .. --- Tim Wiess wrote: > Hello all, > I've recently put together a dual Athlon system, and > unfortunately so far I > have had nothing but problems running FreeBSD on it. > I have gone through many > of the archives in the hackers, bugs, and smp lists, > and while most indicate > that they have had much success running FreeBSD on > dual Athlons, there have > been a few cases which were similar to mine. > Basically, I am unable to run > the system for more than 30 minutes without getting > a panic. > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 > fault virtual address = 0xa0a > fault code = supervisor read, page not > present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc02218e8 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xff80fbc0 > frame pointer = 0x10:0xff80fbc0 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, > type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, > gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, > IOPL = 0 > current process = Idle > interrupt mask = bio <- SMP: XXX > > The instruction pointer points to the > worklist_insert routine in the > soft updates code. Although I don't think that it's > the file system that's > really the source of the problem, since I believe > I've seen different > instruction pointers listed for the same type of > panic. > > In the other cases I was reading about, their panics > were also caused by a > page fault. Unfortunately it didn't seem like the > source of the problem was > ever really located. So I thought I would run this > by you all and see if > anyone had any additional thoughts or suggestions. > > For the record, I'm running the 1.2Ghz Athlons on a > Tyan S2460 board with > 256MB of 266Mhz DDR-SDRAM. > > thanks > > tim > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of > the message ===== regards, Hiten Pandya ---------------------------------------------------- Guys!... stay away from Einstein Junior! ---------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Nov 24 3:38: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.de (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2850B37B418 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:38:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 167b8E-0000pK-0C; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:38:02 +0100 Received: from peedub.muc.de (520017439985-0001@[217.80.233.33]) by fmrl03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 167b8A-0JklpgC; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:37:58 +0100 Received: by peedub.muc.de (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fAOBbhu08969; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:37:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from garyj) Message-Id: <200111241137.fAOBbhu08969@peedub.muc.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Gary Jennejohn Reply-To: garyj@jennejohn.org To: Hiten Pandya , Tim Wiess Subject: Re: Problems with Dual Athlons Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:37:43 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Cc: hackers@freebsd.org References: <20011124104812.11118.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20011124104812.11118.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 520017439985-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday 24 November 2001 11:48, Hiten Pandya wrote: > hi.. no offense... but Tyan motherboards are the one > which cause the whole problem... > > did u try to use the kernel option which works around > an SMP Bug... try that one... it solved an issue on my > friend's system and also someone on the archive... > > for reference.. the option is: > > options I4B_SMP_WORKAROUND > > this should solve your problem... > This is a hack to solve startup problems with the isdn4bsd code. In general it should not provide any help with SMP problems not related to i4b. -- Gary Jennejohn garyj@jennejohn.org gj@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Nov 24 3:47:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9417637B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:47:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from vilnya.demon.co.uk ([158.152.19.238]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 167bHR-000MGO-0U; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:47:38 +0000 Received: from haveblue (haveblue.rings [10.2.4.5]) by vilnya.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 93F672E84F; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:44:50 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <004001c174dd$ec8729c0$0504020a@haveblue> From: "cameron grant" To: "Tim Wiess" , References: <20011123144529.A5628@ahaza.com> Subject: Re: Problems with Dual Athlons Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:48:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > For the record, I'm running the 1.2Ghz Athlons on a Tyan S2460 board with > 256MB of 266Mhz DDR-SDRAM. check that your bus speed jumpers are correctly set as per the errata sheet, not the manual. if you don't have an errata sheet, check tyan's web site. some boards were sent out with incorrect manuals, mine included, and i had identical symptoms when running my duron 1100s at 1266mhz (115mhz bus speed, undocumented on the s2460). -cg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Nov 24 7:38:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mars-gw.morning.ru (ns.morning.ru [195.161.98.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE80937B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 07:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from NDNM ([195.161.98.250]) by mars-gw.morning.ru (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAOFcKY39128; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:38:21 +0700 (KRAT) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:40:06 +0700 From: Igor M Podlesny X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Business Organization: Morning Network X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <95121839796.20011124224006@morning.ru> To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Dima Dorfman Subject: jail.c.patch (allowing to use hostnames when invoking jail(8)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A small patch allowing to use hostnames when invoking jail(8): ==========X-8==========X-8==========X-8==========X-8==========X-8========== --- jail.c.org Sat Nov 24 22:12:21 2001 +++ jail.c Sat Nov 24 22:25:46 2001 @@ -10,13 +10,18 @@ * */ +#include +#include #include #include #include -#include -#include -#include +#include + #include +#include +#include +#include +#include int main(int argc, char **argv) @@ -26,7 +31,7 @@ struct in_addr in; if (argc < 5) - errx(1, "Usage: %s path hostname ip-number command ...\n", + errx(1, "Usage: %s path hostname hostname_or_ip_addr command ...\n", argv[0]); i = chdir(argv[1]); if (i) @@ -36,8 +41,23 @@ j.path = argv[1]; j.hostname = argv[2]; i = inet_aton(argv[3], &in); - if (!i) - errx(1, "Couldn't make sense of ip-number\n"); + if (!i) { + /* check if it is resolveable */ + struct hostent *hp; + hp = gethostbyname(argv[3]); + if (hp == NULL) { + errx(1, "Couldn't make sense of the jail address\n"); + } + else { + char **p = hp->h_addr_list; + if (p[1] != NULL) { + errx(1, "Jail should have only one ip-address associated with!\n"); + } + else { + memcpy(&in.s_addr, p[0], sizeof(in.s_addr)); + } + } + } j.ip_number = ntohl(in.s_addr); i = jail(&j); if (i) ==========X-8==========X-8==========X-8==========X-8==========X-8========== I consider this useful, hope you do also... -- Best regards, Igor mailto:poige@morning.ru http://morning.ru/~poige To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Nov 24 11:13:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 994BC37B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 24 Nov 2001 19:09:27 +0000 (GMT) To: "W.Scholten" Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fujitsu MO drive: DA_Q_NO_SYNC_CACHE In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:14:17 GMT." <3BFD94D9.3F54BC7E@wanadoo.nl> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:09:25 +0000 From: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <200111241909.aa14469@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3BFD94D9.3F54BC7E@wanadoo.nl>, "W.Scholten" writes: >I submitted a bugreport & patch for 3.3 /4.1 a year ago, but on >installing 4.4 a while back, I found it had not been incorporated. It's in -current and -stable now. Sorry for the delay. Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Nov 24 16:49:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.trit.org (bazooka.trit.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A0437B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:49:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by bazooka.trit.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 93AD54020; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bazooka (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.trit.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920E03C150; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:49:21 +0000 (UTC) To: Peter Wemm Cc: Bruce Evans , hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Reducing syslogd output bloat (was: cvs commit: src/sys/conf Makefile.i386) In-Reply-To: <20011021183958.24ABB3803@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@wemm.org on "Sun, 21 Oct 2001 11:39:58 -0700" Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:49:16 +0000 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20011125004921.93AD54020@bazooka.trit.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Wemm wrote: > Bruce Evans wrote: > > - syslogd: the name of the kernel file is used as a prefix. If I kept > > kernels in the standard place, then I would have complained about the > > bloatage of syslogd output caused by renaming the kernel from /kernel > > to /boot/${NAME_OF_MY_KERNEL}/kernel > > It used to print "kernel" always, even when the kernel was /vmunix > and on other systems when it is /bsd or /netbsd. I'd much rather that > we went back. > > When syslogd starts up, it could log the value of kern.bootfile and > kern.module_path once in the kernel log and just use "kernel:" for identifying > kernel originated messages. The attached patch implements something like this: Make the default kernel prefix "kernel:" instead of the boot file, with the old behavior available via the -o option (it might still be useful if one has many kernels and cares which messages came from which). If the boot file is not used as the prefix, it is still logged once at startup. This change is prompted by the fact that the boot file is now much longer ("/boot/kernel/kernel" vs. "/kernel"), which significanlty bloats the syslogd output. Please review and comment. Thanks. Index: syslogd.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /ref/cvsf/src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.8,v retrieving revision 1.41 diff -u -r1.41 syslogd.8 --- syslogd.8 2001/09/01 08:42:49 1.41 +++ syslogd.8 2001/11/24 23:32:25 @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ .\" @(#)syslogd.8 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/6/93 .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" -.Dd October 12, 1995 +.Dd November 24, 2001 .Dt SYSLOGD 8 .Os .Sh NAME @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ .Nd log systems messages .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm -.Op Fl 46Adknsuv +.Op Fl 46Adknosuv .Op Fl a Ar allowed_peer .Op Fl b Ar bind_address .Op Fl f Ar config_file @@ -181,6 +181,12 @@ messages; the default is 20 minutes. .It Fl n Disable dns query for every request. +.It Fl o +Prefix kernel messages with the full kernel boot file as determined by +.Xr getbootfile 3 . +Without this, +the kernel message prefix is always +.Dq kernel: . .It Fl p Specify the pathname of an alternate log socket to be used instead; the default is Index: syslogd.c =================================================================== RCS file: /ref/cvsf/src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.c,v retrieving revision 1.92 diff -u -r1.92 syslogd.c --- syslogd.c 2001/11/14 09:20:24 1.92 +++ syslogd.c 2001/11/25 00:42:26 @@ -273,6 +273,7 @@ int family = PF_INET; /* protocol family (IPv4 only) */ #endif int send_to_all = 0; /* send message to all IPv4/IPv6 addresses */ +int use_bootfile = 0; /* log entire bootfile for every kern msg */ char bootfile[MAXLINE+1]; /* booted kernel file */ @@ -333,7 +334,7 @@ socklen_t len; bindhostname = NULL; - while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "46Aa:b:df:kl:m:np:P:suv")) != -1) + while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "46Aa:b:df:kl:m:nop:P:suv")) != -1) switch (ch) { case '4': family = PF_INET; @@ -375,6 +376,9 @@ case 'n': resolve = 0; break; + case 'o': + use_bootfile = 1; + break; case 'p': /* path */ funixn[0] = optarg; break; @@ -807,7 +811,8 @@ /* add kernel prefix for kernel messages */ if (flags & ISKERNEL) { - snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "%s: %s", bootfile, msg); + snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "%s: %s", + use_bootfile ? bootfile : "kernel", msg); msg = buf; msglen = strlen(buf); } @@ -1337,6 +1342,7 @@ char host[MAXHOSTNAMELEN]; char oldLocalHostName[MAXHOSTNAMELEN]; char hostMsg[2*MAXHOSTNAMELEN+40]; + char bootfileMsg[LINE_MAX]; dprintf("init\n"); @@ -1525,6 +1531,16 @@ oldLocalHostName, LocalHostName); logmsg(LOG_SYSLOG|LOG_INFO, hostMsg, LocalHostName, ADDDATE); dprintf("%s\n", hostMsg); + } + /* + * Log the kernel boot file if we aren't going to use it as + * the prefix, and if this is *not* a restart. + */ + if (signo == 0 && !use_bootfile) { + (void)snprintf(bootfileMsg, sizeof(bootfileMsg), + "syslogd: kernel boot file is %s", bootfile); + logmsg(LOG_KERN|LOG_INFO, bootfileMsg, LocalHostName, ADDDATE); + dprintf("%s\n", bootfileMsg); } } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message