From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 16 10:12:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA0437B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:12:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f3GHCpr18103; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:12:51 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:12:51 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Donald Burr Cc: FreeBSD Hardware List Subject: Re: FreeBSD compatible with Orinoco (WaveLAN) PCI->PCMCIA adapter? Message-ID: <20010416101251.E6076@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="19uQFt6ulqmgNgg1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dburr@borg-cube.com on Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 04:45:36PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --19uQFt6ulqmgNgg1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 04:45:36PM -0700, Donald Burr wrote: > Does anyone know if the FreeBSD PCMCIA and WaveLAN drivers will work with > the Orinoco/WaveLAN PCI to PCMCIA adapter? Nope, there's some sort of problem with interrupt routing. If you need a PCI 802.11 card, the Cisco Aironet cards work. At least one other vendor (Adicom or something like that) makes a card that should work, but currently it doesn't. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --19uQFt6ulqmgNgg1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE62ygTXY6L6fI4GtQRAr8hAJ0XnxMh+BHzMX/qEDt4tPLZJ2uygACgq2pZ pYrnGLB0epZG2dibASak9lM= =BFLy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --19uQFt6ulqmgNgg1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 16 22:25: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.synergy.com.au (mail.synergy.com.au [202.138.24.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094C737B449; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:24:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from GavinCameron@synergy.com.au) Received: from SYNPROD.SYN.COM.AU (synprod.syn.com.au [172.18.1.60]) by mail.synergy.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19534; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:20:01 +1000 Subject: Adaptec ASC-29160 To: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: From: GavinCameron@synergy.com.au Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:24:29 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NOTES1/Synergy(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 17/04/2001 03:24:31 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know whether or not the Adaptec ASC-29160 SCSI will work with 4.2 or the upcoming 4.3? Thanks in advance Gavin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 17 1:55:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068D537B43E for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:55:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14pRGK-000Az7-00 for hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:55:04 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3H8t3E85256 for hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:55:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:55:03 +0100 From: Rasputin To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD compatible with Orinoco (WaveLAN) PCI->PCMCIA adapter? Message-ID: <20010417095503.B85133@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from dburr@borg-cube.com on Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 04:45:36PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Donald Burr [010415 00:47]: > Does anyone know if the FreeBSD PCMCIA and WaveLAN drivers will work with > the Orinoco/WaveLAN PCI to PCMCIA adapter? > I am talking about this device --> > http://www.wavelan.com/template.html?section=m57&page=128&envelope=93 No they don't - the ISA-> PCMCIA bridge supposedly works fine though. -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 17 6:52:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7D037B43E; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:52:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Received: from scsiguy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3HDq6s24047; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:52:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200104171352.f3HDq6s24047@aslan.scsiguy.com> To: GavinCameron@synergy.com.au Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec ASC-29160 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:24:29 +1000." Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:52:06 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Does anyone know whether or not the Adaptec ASC-29160 SCSI will work with >4.2 or the upcoming 4.3? I would suggest using 4.3. Although the card should be detected in 4.2, there were a few driver bugs that have been corrected since that release. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 17 8:10:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h005.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BBA237B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:10:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@sawilson.org) Received: (cpmta 6063 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 08:10:35 -0700 Date: 17 Apr 2001 08:10:34 -0700 Message-ID: <20010417151034.6062.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 17 Apr 2001 15:10:34 GMT Received: from [208.165.47.13] by mail.sawilson.org with HTTP; 17 Apr 2001 08:10:34 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@freebsd.org From: Scott Alan Wilson X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.7.1.9 Subject: Any Logitech Mouseman Wheel Optical USB users? Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey there, I'm about to get a new mouse because my logitech cordless desktop is showing it's age. Unknown Party Guest dumped a can of coke in the keyboard two years ago rendering it useless, so I've just been using the mouse. I don't know how many of you remember this thing, but if it were made of steel it would make a great wedge for splitting firewood. It's amazing how much my wrist hurts after 3 hours of quake3arena. I already know that the latest MouseMan optical USB works with FreeBSD. I wanted to know if anyone out there is already using it, and how they feel about it. Also, mebbe any pitfalls to avoid when installing it and getting the wheel support and 4th button working. If anyone already has the cordless optical that just hit the market, I'm interested in how it performs as well. The only review I've seen is on ZDnet, and it looks like they fabricated the review by reading the press release. The most compelling reason to justify the 75 dollar purchase price is that it looks like something captain kirk would use to shoot at klingons. If they make the receiver unit look like a tricorder, they'd have a neat marketing optty. Thanks In Advance. Best Regards, Scott Alan Wilson http://sawilson.org Use FreeBSD? Let NVidia know you want their 3d acceleration. http://nvidia.soultwins.com/form.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 17 10:37:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ghostwheel.tribble.net (ghostwheel.tribble.net [206.124.26.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D652637B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:37:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tribble@ghostwheel.tribble.net) Received: (from tribble@localhost) by ghostwheel.tribble.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3HHbhD73832 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:37:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from tribble) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:37:43 -0600 From: Paul To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: AMD MB Message-ID: <20010417113743.A73797@tribble.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Looking for suggestions on a good motherboard that supports AMD Thunderbird well under FreeBSD. Which ones have the least issues and best performance? Regards, Paul http://www.tribble.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 17 10:44:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h016.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44D1A37B636 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:44:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@sawilson.org) Received: (cpmta 23120 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 10:44:40 -0700 Date: 17 Apr 2001 10:44:40 -0700 Message-ID: <20010417174440.23119.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 17 Apr 2001 17:44:40 GMT Received: from [208.165.47.13] by mail.sawilson.org with HTTP; 17 Apr 2001 10:44:40 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: tribble@tribble.net From: Scott Alan Wilson Cc: hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.7.1.9 Subject: Re: AMD MB Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 17 April 2001, Paul wrote: > > Looking for suggestions on a good motherboard that supports AMD > Thunderbird well under FreeBSD. Which ones have the least issues and best > performance? The Microstar K7 Master-S (MS6341) is truly excellent, and has built in ultra-160 scsi. You can find it for about 250 USD. Best Regards, Scott Alan Wilson http://sawilson.org Use FreeBSD? Let NVidia know you want their 3d acceleration. http://nvidia.soultwins.com/form.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 17 17:44:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from zogbe.tasam.com (hc6526bd1.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.107.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A2037B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:44:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clash@tasam.com) Received: from battleship (hc6526bd1.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.107.209]) by zogbe.tasam.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3I0iTh02900; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005a01c0c7a0$b8e2cce0$dc02010a@battleship> From: "Joseph Gleason" To: Cc: "Paul" References: <20010417113743.A73797@tribble.net> Subject: Re: AMD MB + I/O address -> /dev/mem byteoffset question Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:44:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I like the Abit KT7A. It works well...and the chip on the board that normally just has a heat sink has a fan as well. There are 4 3pin fan headers in various places around the board. All configuration is via bios soft menu rather than jumpers (this can be good or bad, depending on your outlook and if the board autodetects your chip correctly). There are two USB ports in the normal ATX place as well as a header and internal cable for two more, if you like that sort of thing. This brings up a somewhat unrealated point. In the manual it says: "Hardware monitoring features for temperatures, fans and voltages will occupy I/O address from 294H to 297H." Can I access that memory block by reading from a byte offset in /dev/mem? If so, what offset? Can someone explain the XXXH notation in terms of actual memory or point me somewhere that does? I am intersted in writing a little peice of software that will query these values. If I can read the appropriate chunk, I'm sure I can figure out exactly what byte is what by seeing what values change when I do diffrent things. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 13:37 Subject: AMD MB > Looking for suggestions on a good motherboard that supports AMD > Thunderbird well under FreeBSD. Which ones have the least issues and best > performance? > > Regards, > Paul > > http://www.tribble.net/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 17 18:10:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from zogbe.tasam.com (hc6526bd1.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.107.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA32337B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:10:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clash@tasam.com) Received: from battleship (hc6526bd1.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.107.209]) by zogbe.tasam.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3I1Aoh03664; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003001c0c7a4$66d457d0$dc02010a@battleship> From: "Joseph Gleason" To: "Michael VanLoon" , Cc: "Paul" References: Subject: Re: AMD MB + I/O address -> /dev/mem byteoffset question Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:10:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know healthd didn't seem to support my chipset. It gave me a bunch of non-sensical values for everything. I assume it was reading the wrong I/O addresses. Can someone point me towards what exactly SMB is? I think I know, but I am certainly not sure. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael VanLoon" > If I remember correctly, I/O space is separate from memory space on Intel > chips (i.e. I/O is not memory-mapped). You cannot read/write it with a > memory address. You need to use I/O functions to do so. > > There are at least two daemons that already do this. One is healthd, and I > forget the name of the other one. I believe you need to check into SMBus > protocol to work with these as well. > > > From: Joseph Gleason [mailto:clash@tasam.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:44 PM > > > > This brings up a somewhat unrealated point. In the manual it says: > > "Hardware monitoring features for temperatures, fans and voltages will > > occupy I/O address from 294H to 297H." > > > > Can I access that memory block by reading from a byte offset > > in /dev/mem? > > If so, what offset? Can someone explain the XXXH notation in terms of > > actual memory or point me somewhere that does? > > > > I am intersted in writing a little peice of software that > > will query these > > values. If I can read the appropriate chunk, I'm sure I can > > figure out > > exactly what byte is what by seeing what values change when I > > do diffrent > > things. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 17 18:19:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from zogbe.tasam.com (hc6526bd1.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.107.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCD037B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clash@tasam.com) Received: from battleship (hc6526bd1.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.107.209]) by zogbe.tasam.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3I1JJh03784; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006201c0c7a5$95b481a0$dc02010a@battleship> From: "Joseph Gleason" To: "Joseph Gleason" , Cc: "Paul" References: <20010417113743.A73797@tribble.net> <005a01c0c7a0$b8e2cce0$dc02010a@battleship> Subject: Re: AMD MB + I/O address -> /dev/mem byteoffset question Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:19:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not to mention the manual has a picture of a motherboard doing an ID4 style attack on a major city. That dosen't touch IWills space cartoon people though... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Gleason" To: Cc: "Paul" Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 20:44 Subject: Re: AMD MB + I/O address -> /dev/mem byteoffset question > I like the Abit KT7A. It works well...and the chip on the board that > normally just has a heat sink has a fan as well. > > There are 4 3pin fan headers in various places around the board. > > All configuration is via bios soft menu rather than jumpers (this can be > good or bad, depending on your outlook and if the board autodetects your > chip correctly). > > There are two USB ports in the normal ATX place as well as a header and > internal cable for two more, if you like that sort of thing. > > > This brings up a somewhat unrealated point. In the manual it says: > "Hardware monitoring features for temperatures, fans and voltages will > occupy I/O address from 294H to 297H." > > Can I access that memory block by reading from a byte offset in /dev/mem? > If so, what offset? Can someone explain the XXXH notation in terms of > actual memory or point me somewhere that does? > > I am intersted in writing a little peice of software that will query these > values. If I can read the appropriate chunk, I'm sure I can figure out > exactly what byte is what by seeing what values change when I do diffrent > things. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 13:37 > Subject: AMD MB > > > > Looking for suggestions on a good motherboard that supports AMD > > Thunderbird well under FreeBSD. Which ones have the least issues and best > > performance? > > > > Regards, > > Paul > > > > http://www.tribble.net/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 17 21:46:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from fbsd.bosa.ca (cr1003901-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.37.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1AB37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kulraj@bosa.ca) Received: from ska1 (h207-230-227-196.dccnet.com [207.230.227.196]) by fbsd.bosa.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id BE3B0158EB9; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <013d01c0c7c3$0173f2a0$64c8a8c0@asknet.com> From: "Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account)" To: "Paul" , References: <20010417113743.A73797@tribble.net> Subject: Re: AMD MB Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:49:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Looking for suggestions on a good motherboard that supports AMD > Thunderbird well under FreeBSD. Which ones have the least issues and best > performance? > > Regards, > Paul > > http://www.tribble.net/ Which AMD CPU? The old Athlon-B's or the new Athlon-C's, difference is 266MHz FSb on the C's. I haven't yet found a board that doesn't work well under FreeBSD, so base you choice on features and value for money. If you want C-Type CPU support look at : MSI K7 Turbo MSI K7 Turbo Raid MSI K7 Master S ASUS A7V133 or for 200MHz FSB : Gigabyte 7ZX rev 5 (one of few that has ISA slot - important for modems; I can't find a supported PCI modem, ideas anyone?) MSI K7T Pro2A MSI K7T Master S If overclocking is important to you, then check out IWill. So check out features and prices and go with what best fits your needs/budget. I am running a Gigabyte 7ZX on one of my servers (this is the newer one) and MSI K7T Pro2 which is about six months old. On rack mount boxes (especially 2U or 1U's I recommend the KM133 chipset based boards like the Gigabyte 7ZMM-C because of the integrated VGA. Hope this helps!! Regards, Kulraj To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 18 9:28:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h004.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 267B937B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:28:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@sawilson.org) Received: (cpmta 15609 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2001 09:28:04 -0700 Date: 18 Apr 2001 09:28:04 -0700 Message-ID: <20010418162804.15608.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 18 Apr 2001 16:28:04 GMT Received: from [208.165.47.216] by mail.sawilson.org with HTTP; 18 Apr 2001 09:28:04 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: kulraj@bosa.ca From: Scott Alan Wilson Cc: hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.7.1.9 Subject: Re: AMD MB Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Gigabyte 7ZX rev 5 (one of few that has ISA slot - important for modems; I > can't find a supported PCI modem, ideas anyone?) Hey There, I know my solution. I've been using the same USR Courier V.Everything External for a while. I love the thing. If my connection gets squirrely, I pop the VOICE/DATA button on the front, and pppd set to persist reconnects me in a few seconds. I pass it AT&F1 s11=50 s58=33 in my chat script for dialup. The s11=50 works with most modems, and tells it to dial as fast as possible. The s58=33 forces it into v.34 mode since the phonelines in this area are very poor quality. It usually takes it about 15 seconds to connect and handshake. I have a pppd.sh in my /usr/local/etc.rc.d, and a rdate.sh that updates my system clock with MIT's atomic clock each time the machine is rebooted after a make world. Hope this helps. Best Regards, Scott Alan Wilson http://sawilson.org Use FreeBSD? Let NVidia know you want their 3d acceleration. http://nvidia.soultwins.com/form.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 18 21:38: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from fbsd.bosa.ca (cr1003901-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.37.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B367137B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kulraj@bosa.ca) Received: from ska1 (h207-230-227-196.dccnet.com [207.230.227.196]) by fbsd.bosa.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 855A2158EB9 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <006c01c0c88a$fd349e60$64c8a8c0@asknet.com> From: "Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account)" To: References: <20010417113808.A125@xor.obsecurity.org> <200104181432.f3IEWln65664@fac13.ds.psu.edu> <20010418104830.A35494@xor.obsecurity.org> Subject: VoIP - H.323 support Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:41:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does any one know? Are there any plans to support generic H.323 hardware particularly PCI cards from Quicknet If so, when? TIA Regards Kulraj Gurm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 19 14:50:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from puke.reno.oemsupport.com (64-42-17-172.atgi.net [64.42.17.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE94637B43C; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pcalkins@oemsupport.com) Received: by puke.reno.oemsupport.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:50:18 -0700 Message-ID: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A1@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> From: Patrick Calkins To: "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:50:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have a quick (or not so quick) question: I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it ;o). The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going with a FreeBSD OS? I tried to talk to Dell and Compaq about it, but they seem more than happy to help me if I am going to use all MS stuff, but mention FreeBSD and they are all clueless about it. They don't even seem to up on Linux either (although they both claim to support it, and ship their servers with it if you need it). I talked to BSDi about it as well, they (naturally) support the xBSD but it seems that they want to sell you the same hardware that I can go to my local computer store and buy myself. I want fast, reliable, good equipment. With the norm for a datacenter - RAID 5, hot-swap, clustering, etc. I wanted to stick with a one vender solution if I could help it. Does anyone know what Yahoo runs for their hardware vendors? I noticed on mail.yahoo.com they sport a Compaq logo, but I thought they used FreeBSD for their OS - does this mean that Compaq *really* does support xBSD if you give them enough $$$??? I expect the project to be around $250,000 so money really isnt a concern. hehe Thanks for the input! Patrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 19 15: 7:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from odin.wrath.net (024man167.chartermi.net [24.213.24.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EB737B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:07:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wrath@shianet.org) Received: from danrc ([192.168.1.2]) by odin.wrath.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2172.1); Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:09:16 -0400 Message-ID: <002301c0c91d$2ab2f660$0201a8c0@fear.wrath.net> From: "Brian" To: Cc: "Patrick Calkins" References: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A1@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> Subject: Re: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:07:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2001 22:09:16.0470 (UTC) FILETIME=[5FCA4560:01C0C91D] Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Compaq plays with everything. They even let you play too. http://www.testdrive.compaq.com/ I've always been into "build your own (nightmare?)". I don't like buying other people's equipment since I've always found something to complain about. If I build it myself, I'm the only one that I have to give a swift kick in the rear. The problem is that it sucks up a lot of time to research and you don't get a service plan. All in all I suppose it depends on who you talk to as far as vendors go. -Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Calkins" To: "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" ; "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:50 PM Subject: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? > Have a quick (or not so quick) question: > > I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database > servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it ;o). > The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going with a > FreeBSD OS? I tried to talk to Dell and Compaq about it, but they seem more > than happy to help me if I am going to use all MS stuff, but mention FreeBSD > and they are all clueless about it. They don't even seem to up on Linux > either (although they both claim to support it, and ship their servers with > it if you need it). I talked to BSDi about it as well, they (naturally) > support the xBSD but it seems that they want to sell you the same hardware > that I can go to my local computer store and buy myself. I want fast, > reliable, good equipment. With the norm for a datacenter - RAID 5, hot-swap, > clustering, etc. I wanted to stick with a one vender solution if I could > help it. Does anyone know what Yahoo runs for their hardware vendors? I > noticed on mail.yahoo.com they sport a Compaq logo, but I thought they used > FreeBSD for their OS - does this mean that Compaq *really* does support xBSD > if you give them enough $$$??? I expect the project to be around $250,000 so > money really isnt a concern. > > hehe > Thanks for the input! > Patrick > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 19 15: 9: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806FC37B423; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:08:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 9085155407; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80CC151610; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:03:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Patrick Calkins Cc: "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A1@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-04-19, Patrick Calkins scribbled: # I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database # servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it ;o). # The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going with a # FreeBSD OS? I tried to talk to Dell and Compaq about it, but they seem more # than happy to help me if I am going to use all MS stuff, but mention FreeBSD # and they are all clueless about it. They don't even seem to up on Linux # either (although they both claim to support it, and ship their servers with # it if you need it). I talked to BSDi about it as well, they (naturally) # support the xBSD but it seems that they want to sell you the same hardware # that I can go to my local computer store and buy myself. I want fast, # reliable, good equipment. With the norm for a datacenter - RAID 5, hot-swap, # clustering, etc. I wanted to stick with a one vender solution if I could # help it. Does anyone know what Yahoo runs for their hardware vendors? I # noticed on mail.yahoo.com they sport a Compaq logo, but I thought they used # FreeBSD for their OS - does this mean that Compaq *really* does support xBSD # if you give them enough $$$??? I expect the project to be around $250,000 so # money really isnt a concern. You can always go with BSDi's hardware/computer division and configure/purchase servers that they can pre-install FreeBSD 4.x or BSD/OS on the servers for you. VA Linux and Penguin Computing servers are pretty good, but don't expect to have FreeBSD installed on there by default. Compaq, Dell and the other large companies don't (or at times, don't want to support) FreeBSD or any non Microsoft or Linux operating system. If they support Linux, it's either available on a limited configuration basis or on a not-pre-installed basis. You could also decide to buy the components and build them yourself :) If you really want horsepower and the ability to go multi-proc later, the Compaq Alpha rackmounted servers are nice and I think they have FreeBSD (or at least one of the BSDs) installed on some of their Test Drive servers. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 19 16: 3:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from bastion.energex.com.au (bastion.energex.com.au [147.209.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6066937B423; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:03:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrickcollins@energex.com.au) Received: by bastion.energex.com.au; (8.8.8/GJW030998a) id JAA30603; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:03:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from newman.energex.com.au(147.209.206.13) by bastion.energex.com.au via smap (smtp gateway apd20000403a) id xma014528; Fri, 20 Apr 01 09:03:04 +1000 Received: from dux.seqeb.gov.au (unverified) by newman.seqeb.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with SMTP id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:03:03 +1000 Received: from ntco99.seqeb.gov.au by dux.seqeb.gov.au (8.8.8/apd19991206a) id JAA0000030525; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:03:00 +1000 (EST) Received: by ntco99.seqeb.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:02:59 +1000 Message-ID: From: COLLINS Patrick To: "'Patrick Calkins'" , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:02:56 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I really like the HP LC2000 or the LH3000, all the hardware is well supported by FreeBSD however HP make no claim to this effect. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Calkins [mailto:pcalkins@oemsupport.com] Sent: Friday, 20 April 2001 7:50 AM To: Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail); Freebsd-Questions (E-mail) Subject: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Have a quick (or not so quick) question: I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it ;o). The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going with a FreeBSD OS? I tried to talk to Dell and Compaq about it, but they seem more than happy to help me if I am going to use all MS stuff, but mention FreeBSD and they are all clueless about it. They don't even seem to up on Linux either (although they both claim to support it, and ship their servers with it if you need it). I talked to BSDi about it as well, they (naturally) support the xBSD but it seems that they want to sell you the same hardware that I can go to my local computer store and buy myself. I want fast, reliable, good equipment. With the norm for a datacenter - RAID 5, hot-swap, clustering, etc. I wanted to stick with a one vender solution if I could help it. Does anyone know what Yahoo runs for their hardware vendors? I noticed on mail.yahoo.com they sport a Compaq logo, but I thought they used FreeBSD for their OS - does this mean that Compaq *really* does support xBSD if you give them enough $$$??? I expect the project to be around $250,000 so money really isnt a concern. hehe Thanks for the input! Patrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email message (and any accompanying file attachments) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, please notify ENERGEX immediately and destroy any copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, alteration, disclosure or distribution of this email (including any attachments) by an unintended recipient is prohibited. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 19 16: 7:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E0A37B423; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:07:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id E769855407; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C9451610; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:01:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: COLLINS Patrick Cc: 'Patrick Calkins' , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-04-20, COLLINS Patrick scribbled: # I really like the HP LC2000 or the LH3000, all the hardware is well # supported by FreeBSD however HP make no claim to this effect. I think they do that so they don't hurt their relationship with Microsoft and with their own HP-UX group :) -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 19 17:43:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.phreak.net (blotto.phreak.net [207.250.188.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BFF37B43E for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:43:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from operator@phreak.net) Received: from phreak.net (localhost.phreak.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.phreak.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BD0E09EE01; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:43:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 207.250.188.69 (SquirrelMail authenticated user operator) by mail.phreak.net with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:43:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3661.207.250.188.69.987727410.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:43:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? From: "Steve Kaczkowski" To: pcalkins@oemsupport.com In-Reply-To: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A1@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> References: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A1@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.4) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Have a quick (or not so quick) question: > > I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database > servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it > ;o). The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going > with a FreeBSD OS? I've had GREAT luck with Dell 2400,2450s. The 2400s are the real large 4U suckers and the 2450s are are nice and small 2U. They both use the ServerWorks PIII Chipset (other models probably do too) and I've found it very reliable and FAST. Another nice thing about Dell is that you can order one of their PERC2/DC RAID cards (which is actually an AMI OEM) and have full support in FreeBSD.. Well, hope this helps and good luck! -- Steve Kaczkowski operator@phreak.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 19 19:38:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from gongshow.masterplan.org (h24-67-67-185.cg.shawcable.net [24.67.67.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1B937B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:38:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbg@masterplan.org) Received: from localhost (jbg@localhost) by gongshow.masterplan.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00673; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:38:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jbg@masterplan.org) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:38:41 -0600 (MDT) From: Jason George To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Cc: jbg@masterplan.org Subject: Intel inBusiness Storage Station Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I recently acquired an Intel inBusiness Storage Station - one of the original models. I know that the O/S for the system was based on FreeBSD-3, so I'd hope that FreeBSD-4 or -CURRENT would run on it! :-) Does anyone know anything about the mainboard specs for this beast? I can't get the system to boot since I installed FBSD-4.2 on the disk (I get an eternally-flashing power LED, which according to Intel support site indicates that the POST hasn't completed) and I'd like to know if there is a way to get a serial console working. The connectors are unlabeled. Mike? Wes? Anyone? :-) Thanks a lot in advance! --Jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 19 19:54:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from out4.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (out4.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net [169.207.1.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9508937B423; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:54:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dpoland@execpc.com) Received: from earth.execpc.com (dpoland@earth.execpc.com [169.207.16.1]) by out4.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3K2sQg87513; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:54:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dpoland@localhost) by earth.execpc.com (8.9.0) id VAA12023; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:54:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:54:26 -0500 From: Doug Poland To: Patrick Calkins Cc: "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20010419215425.A11628@polands.org> Mail-Followup-To: Patrick Calkins , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" References: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A1@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A1@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:50:18PM -0700, Patrick Calkins wrote: > Have a quick (or not so quick) question: > > I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database > servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it ;o). > The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going with a > FreeBSD OS? I tried to talk to Dell and Compaq about it, but they seem more > than happy to help me if I am going to use all MS stuff, but mention FreeBSD > and they are all clueless about it. They don't even seem to up on Linux > either (although they both claim to support it, and ship their servers with > it if you need it). I talked to BSDi about it as well, they (naturally) > support the xBSD but it seems that they want to sell you the same hardware > that I can go to my local computer store and buy myself. I want fast, > reliable, good equipment. With the norm for a datacenter - RAID 5, hot-swap, > clustering, etc. I wanted to stick with a one vender solution if I could > help it. Does anyone know what Yahoo runs for their hardware vendors? I > noticed on mail.yahoo.com they sport a Compaq logo, but I thought they used > FreeBSD for their OS - does this mean that Compaq *really* does support xBSD > if you give them enough $$$??? I expect the project to be around $250,000 so > money really isnt a concern. > You might want to take a look at Apache Digital (http://www.apache.com) I bought an Athalon workstation from them a few months back and am well pleased. -- Regards, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 19 20:14:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540A337B424; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3K3EQM55971; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:14:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:14:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan Stehling To: Doug Poland Cc: Patrick Calkins , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <20010419215425.A11628@polands.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have not followed this whole thread much, but I did purchase a Dell PowerEdge a while back and put FreeBSD on it. It has been great. It has a hardware RAID system which is very well supported by FreeBSD and everything else works as you would expect. When you look info the Dell hardware you can check for yourself if it is compatible. Part by part you should be able to figure it out. Brennan Stehling - software developer and system administrator my projects: home.offwhite.net (free personal hosting) www.greasydaemon.com (bsd search) On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Doug Poland wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:50:18PM -0700, Patrick Calkins wrote: > > Have a quick (or not so quick) question: > > > > I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database > > servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it ;o). > > The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going with a > > FreeBSD OS? I tried to talk to Dell and Compaq about it, but they seem more > > than happy to help me if I am going to use all MS stuff, but mention FreeBSD > > and they are all clueless about it. They don't even seem to up on Linux > > either (although they both claim to support it, and ship their servers with > > it if you need it). I talked to BSDi about it as well, they (naturally) > > support the xBSD but it seems that they want to sell you the same hardware > > that I can go to my local computer store and buy myself. I want fast, > > reliable, good equipment. With the norm for a datacenter - RAID 5, hot-swap, > > clustering, etc. I wanted to stick with a one vender solution if I could > > help it. Does anyone know what Yahoo runs for their hardware vendors? I > > noticed on mail.yahoo.com they sport a Compaq logo, but I thought they used > > FreeBSD for their OS - does this mean that Compaq *really* does support xBSD > > if you give them enough $$$??? I expect the project to be around $250,000 so > > money really isnt a concern. > > > You might want to take a look at Apache Digital (http://www.apache.com) > I bought an Athalon workstation from them a few months back and am well > pleased. > > -- > Regards, > Doug > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 20 8:25:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF52737B43F; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:25:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@havk.org) Received: from bsd.havk.org (user-24-214-92-252.knology.net [24.214.92.252]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3KFPj500211; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:25:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bsd.havk.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5E3DF1A7D8; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:25:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:25:43 -0500 From: Steve Price To: chat@freebsd.org Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: PC104 and FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010420102543.G46608@bsd.havk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, I have an application that I've developed for a customer that has been deployed on FreeBSD. The customer now wants to deploy this application using a PC104 form factor board so that they can shove it inside the transmitter controller case. The engineer has found several instances claiming people have great success with PC104 and Linux but very few positive responses regarding FreeBSD. If anyone has any experience in the PC104 arena and has a success story wrt to FreeBSD please let me know. I want to be armed to the gills when I reply to him. Thanks. -steve PS: Note I've sent this chat and hardware please followup to chat or me directly as I'm not sure if hardware is entirely appropriate for this discussion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 20 8:51:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C55B37B423; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13947; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:51:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010420095032.04704c60@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:51:30 -0600 To: Steve Price , chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: PC104 and FreeBSD Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010420102543.G46608@bsd.havk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org PC104 is just an ISA-like bus. There's no reason whatsoever why a PC104 system should not work with FreeBSD. I've put FreeBSD and OpenBSD on set-top boxes with PC104 network cards inside; it's worked fine. --Brett At 09:25 AM 4/20/2001, Steve Price wrote: >Hi All, > >I have an application that I've developed for a customer that >has been deployed on FreeBSD. The customer now wants to deploy >this application using a PC104 form factor board so that they >can shove it inside the transmitter controller case. The >engineer has found several instances claiming people have great >success with PC104 and Linux but very few positive responses >regarding FreeBSD. > >If anyone has any experience in the PC104 arena and has a >success story wrt to FreeBSD please let me know. I want to be >armed to the gills when I reply to him. > >Thanks. > >-steve > >PS: Note I've sent this chat and hardware please followup to > chat or me directly as I'm not sure if hardware is entirely > appropriate for this discussion. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 20 13:29:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from midgard.dhs.org (dhcp065-024-189-179.columbus.rr.com [65.24.189.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05FA37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:29:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from caa@midgard.dhs.org) Received: (from caa@localhost) by midgard.dhs.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3KKTOf02329; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:29:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from caa) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:29:23 -0400 From: Charles Anderson To: Scott Alan Wilson Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any Logitech Mouseman Wheel Optical USB users? Message-ID: <20010420162923.H15823@midgard.dhs.org> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Alan Wilson , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010417151034.6062.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010417151034.6062.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net>; from scott@sawilson.org on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 08:10:34AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've got a optical mouseman wheel usb, and it works great. I set it up as outlined here. http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ I don't have 4th button support as buttons 4 & 5 are used to signify when the wheel is scrolled up or down. -Charlie On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 08:10:34AM -0700, Scott Alan Wilson wrote: > Hey there, > > I already know that the latest MouseMan optical USB works with FreeBSD. I wanted to know if anyone out there is already using it, and how they feel about it. Also, mebbe any pitfalls to avoid when installing it and getting the wheel support and 4th button working. > > Scott Alan Wilson > http://sawilson.org -- Charles Anderson caa@columbus.rr.com No quote, no nothin' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 20 17:27:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from berkano.pair.com (berkano.pair.com [209.68.1.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 639AA37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:27:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from btaylor@berkano.pair.com) Received: (qmail 78640 invoked by uid 3258); 21 Apr 2001 00:27:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 00:27:41 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:27:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Taylor To: Patrick Calkins Cc: "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A1@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Patrick, You might want to check www.rackmount.com. We use their rackmount servers running FreeBSD 4.2 in our colocation center. Bryan Taylor PNetwork On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Patrick Calkins wrote: > Have a quick (or not so quick) question: > > I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database > servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it ;o). > The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going with a > FreeBSD OS? I tried to talk to Dell and Compaq about it, but they seem more > than happy to help me if I am going to use all MS stuff, but mention FreeBSD > and they are all clueless about it. They don't even seem to up on Linux > either (although they both claim to support it, and ship their servers with > it if you need it). I talked to BSDi about it as well, they (naturally) > support the xBSD but it seems that they want to sell you the same hardware > that I can go to my local computer store and buy myself. I want fast, > reliable, good equipment. With the norm for a datacenter - RAID 5, hot-swap, > clustering, etc. I wanted to stick with a one vender solution if I could > help it. Does anyone know what Yahoo runs for their hardware vendors? I > noticed on mail.yahoo.com they sport a Compaq logo, but I thought they used > FreeBSD for their OS - does this mean that Compaq *really* does support xBSD > if you give them enough $$$??? I expect the project to be around $250,000 so > money really isnt a concern. > > hehe > Thanks for the input! > Patrick > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 20 17:34:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from schmoo.tclme.org (schmoo.tclme.org [208.24.53.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D7EE37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:34:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgreene@tclme.org) Received: (qmail 35909 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 00:29:54 -0000 Received: from dialup18.austintx.com (HELO tclme.org) (rgreene@208.24.53.20) by mail.tclme.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 00:29:54 -0000 Message-ID: <3AE0D7A7.2FAE57AA@tclme.org> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:43:19 -0500 From: Bob Greene Organization: tclme.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Patrick Calkins , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bryan Taylor wrote: > > Patrick, > > You might want to check www.rackmount.com. We use their > rackmount servers running FreeBSD 4.2 in our colocation center. > > Bryan Taylor > PNetwork > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Patrick Calkins wrote: > > > Have a quick (or not so quick) question: > > > > I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database > > servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it ;o). > > The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going with a > > FreeBSD OS? I tried to talk to Dell and Compaq about it, but they seem more > > than happy to help me if I am going to use all MS stuff, but mention FreeBSD > > and they are all clueless about it. They don't even seem to up on Linux > > either (although they both claim to support it, and ship their servers with > > it if you need it). I talked to BSDi about it as well, they (naturally) > > support the xBSD but it seems that they want to sell you the same hardware > > that I can go to my local computer store and buy myself. I want fast, > > reliable, good equipment. With the norm for a datacenter - RAID 5, hot-swap, > > clustering, etc. I wanted to stick with a one vender solution if I could > > help it. Does anyone know what Yahoo runs for their hardware vendors? I > > noticed on mail.yahoo.com they sport a Compaq logo, but I thought they used > > FreeBSD for their OS - does this mean that Compaq *really* does support xBSD > > if you give them enough $$$??? I expect the project to be around $250,000 so > > money really isnt a concern. > > > > hehe > > Thanks for the input! > > Patrick > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message Talk to Penguin Computing. http://www.penguincomputing.com They build pretty gereric rack mount boxes and I've got one of the 1U units running FreeBSD just fine. Of course they'll ship with Linux, but reinstalling isn't a problem. -- Bob Greene rgreene@TclMe.org Pull my finger for my public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 20 21:23: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC99D37B43E; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:22:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3L4Mtk48414; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:22:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Linh Pham" , "Patrick Calkins" Cc: "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:22:54 -0700 Message-ID: <001001c0ca1a$bca711c0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This isn't true for Compaq - they sell preloaded Linux systems. Please check the following URL: http://www.compaq.com/products/workstations/software-platform/osmatrix.html They ALSO have at least one Intel-based system running FreeBSD in their testdrive center (although they do NOT sell preloaded FreeBSD systems) There is also the ida driver which supports the Compaq SmartRaid controllers. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Linh Pham >VA Linux and Penguin Computing servers are pretty good, but don't expect >to have FreeBSD installed on there by default. Compaq, Dell and the >other large companies don't (or at times, don't want to support) >FreeBSD or any non Microsoft or Linux operating system. If they support >Linux, it's either available on a limited configuration basis or on a >not-pre-installed basis. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 20 21:28: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFE637B440; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:27:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id AE79355407; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE7C51610; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:22:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Patrick Calkins , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <001001c0ca1a$bca711c0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-04-20, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: # This isn't true for Compaq - they sell preloaded Linux systems. # Please check the following URL: # # http://www.compaq.com/products/workstations/software-platform/osmatrix.html What I meant is that not all of the Windows-based solutions are available for the servers that come with Linux pre-loaded. This is changing, some quicker than others... but it's not easy to get a quad-processor server with Linux pre-loaded... from Compaq anyways :) # They ALSO have at least one Intel-based system running FreeBSD # in their testdrive center (although they do NOT sell preloaded # FreeBSD systems) Unfortunately... nor do they have any Alpha based workstations pre-loaded with FreeBSD like one of their Alpha test-drive servers :( # There is also the ida driver which supports the Compaq SmartRaid # controllers. Do you know which versions of the SmartRAID controller is supported. I do have a fairly old Compaq server running FreeBSD, but I would like to get it on a DL380 or something as a hefty mail/DNS server for work. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 20 21:47:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EAD37B424; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:47:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3L4lMk48506; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:47:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Linh Pham" Cc: "Patrick Calkins" , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:47:22 -0700 Message-ID: <005101c0ca1e$27416280$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have found that all of the _pci_ versions are supported (Compaq decided to use the same register interface to make it easier to write drivers) Unfortunately, EISA raid controllers are a crapshoot - some work, some don't. I'd very much like to see more results of testing of that. Fortunately, used Compaq pci RAID controllers are plentiful on Ebay (the fools that buy used systems and part them out somehow think that the RAID card is this supervaluable card and so they are pretty cheap too) Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Linh Pham >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:22 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Patrick Calkins; Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail); Freebsd-Questions >(E-mail) >Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? > > >On 2001-04-20, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: > ># This isn't true for Compaq - they sell preloaded Linux systems. ># Please check the following URL: ># ># >http://www.compaq.com/products/workstations/software-platform/osmatrix.html > >What I meant is that not all of the Windows-based solutions are >available for the servers that come with Linux pre-loaded. This is >changing, some quicker than others... but it's not easy to get a >quad-processor server with Linux pre-loaded... from Compaq anyways :) > ># They ALSO have at least one Intel-based system running FreeBSD ># in their testdrive center (although they do NOT sell preloaded ># FreeBSD systems) > >Unfortunately... nor do they have any Alpha based workstations >pre-loaded with FreeBSD like one of their Alpha test-drive servers :( > ># There is also the ida driver which supports the Compaq SmartRaid ># controllers. > >Do you know which versions of the SmartRAID controller is supported. I >do have a fairly old Compaq server running FreeBSD, but I would like to >get it on a DL380 or something as a hefty mail/DNS server for work. > >-- >Linh Pham >[lplist@closedsrc.org] > >// 404b - Brain not found > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 20 21:52:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from 100m.mp200-2.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mp200-2.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640F937B423; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:52:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from house@lvcm.com) Received: from neoone (cm082.44.234.24.lvcm.com [24.234.44.82]) by 100m.mp200-2.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with SMTP id ABF29843; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <060601c0ca1e$9454f800$1616160a@neoone> From: "JannaDanRich" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , "Linh Pham" Cc: "Patrick Calkins" , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" References: <005101c0ca1e$27416280$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Subject: Re: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:50:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org have read a lot of good things about vinum, and if you aren't really needing RAID V .. it is much much faster and, well, free ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Linh Pham" Cc: "Patrick Calkins" ; "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" ; "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:47 PM Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? > We have found that all of the _pci_ versions are supported > (Compaq decided to use the same register interface to make it > easier to write drivers) Unfortunately, EISA raid controllers > are a crapshoot - some work, some don't. I'd very much like to > see more results of testing of that. Fortunately, used > Compaq pci RAID controllers are plentiful on Ebay (the > fools that buy used systems and part them out somehow > think that the RAID card is this supervaluable card and so > they are pretty cheap too) > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Linh Pham > >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:22 PM > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >Cc: Patrick Calkins; Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail); Freebsd-Questions > >(E-mail) > >Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? > > > > > >On 2001-04-20, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: > > > ># This isn't true for Compaq - they sell preloaded Linux systems. > ># Please check the following URL: > ># > ># > >http://www.compaq.com/products/workstations/software-platform/osmatri x.html > > > >What I meant is that not all of the Windows-based solutions are > >available for the servers that come with Linux pre-loaded. This is > >changing, some quicker than others... but it's not easy to get a > >quad-processor server with Linux pre-loaded... from Compaq anyways :) > > > ># They ALSO have at least one Intel-based system running FreeBSD > ># in their testdrive center (although they do NOT sell preloaded > ># FreeBSD systems) > > > >Unfortunately... nor do they have any Alpha based workstations > >pre-loaded with FreeBSD like one of their Alpha test-drive servers :( > > > ># There is also the ida driver which supports the Compaq SmartRaid > ># controllers. > > > >Do you know which versions of the SmartRAID controller is supported. I > >do have a fairly old Compaq server running FreeBSD, but I would like to > >get it on a DL380 or something as a hefty mail/DNS server for work. > > > >-- > >Linh Pham > >[lplist@closedsrc.org] > > > >// 404b - Brain not found > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 20 22:21: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC7E37B423; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:20:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3L5Knk48681; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:20:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "JannaDanRich" , "Linh Pham" Cc: "Patrick Calkins" , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:20:49 -0700 Message-ID: <006701c0ca22$d3ddc840$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <060601c0ca1e$9454f800$1616160a@neoone> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think you would find in a benchmark test that performance in disk systems is due to the hardware configuration, not the software. You could build a system where either approaches outperformed The other simply based on the hardware configuration. What hardware RAID V gives you is the ability to walk up to a running server, pull out a failed drive, replace it with a new one, and walk off without shutting down the server. Your probably not going to be able to do that with vinum. If you don't need that capability, then your correct in asking the question "why pay for it" Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of JannaDanRich >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:50 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Linh Pham >Cc: Patrick Calkins; Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail); Freebsd-Questions >(E-mail) >Subject: Re: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? > > >have read a lot of good things about vinum, and if you >aren't really needing RAID V .. it is much much faster > >and, well, free > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" >To: "Linh Pham" >Cc: "Patrick Calkins" ; "Freebsd-Hardware >(E-mail)" ; "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" > >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:47 PM >Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? > > >> We have found that all of the _pci_ versions are supported >> (Compaq decided to use the same register interface to make it >> easier to write drivers) Unfortunately, EISA raid controllers >> are a crapshoot - some work, some don't. I'd very much like to >> see more results of testing of that. Fortunately, used >> Compaq pci RAID controllers are plentiful on Ebay (the >> fools that buy used systems and part them out somehow >> think that the RAID card is this supervaluable card and so >> they are pretty cheap too) >> >> Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com >> Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide >> Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Linh Pham >> >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:22 PM >> >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> >Cc: Patrick Calkins; Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail); Freebsd-Questions >> >(E-mail) >> >Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? >> > >> > >> >On 2001-04-20, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: >> > >> ># This isn't true for Compaq - they sell preloaded Linux systems. >> ># Please check the following URL: >> ># >> ># >> >>http://www.compaq.com/products/workstations/software-platform/osmatri >x.html >> > >> >What I meant is that not all of the Windows-based solutions are >> >available for the servers that come with Linux pre-loaded. This is >> >changing, some quicker than others... but it's not easy to get a >> >quad-processor server with Linux pre-loaded... from Compaq anyways >:) >> > >> ># They ALSO have at least one Intel-based system running FreeBSD >> ># in their testdrive center (although they do NOT sell preloaded >> ># FreeBSD systems) >> > >> >Unfortunately... nor do they have any Alpha based workstations >> >pre-loaded with FreeBSD like one of their Alpha test-drive servers >:( >> > >> ># There is also the ida driver which supports the Compaq SmartRaid >> ># controllers. >> > >> >Do you know which versions of the SmartRAID controller is >supported. I >> >do have a fairly old Compaq server running FreeBSD, but I would >like to >> >get it on a DL380 or something as a hefty mail/DNS server for work. >> > >> >-- >> >Linh Pham >> >[lplist@closedsrc.org] >> > >> >// 404b - Brain not found >> > >> > >> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> > >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Apr 21 1:29:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.oskarmobil.cz (smtp1.oskarmobil.cz [217.77.161.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C96637B423; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:29:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Milon.Papezik@oskarmobil.cz) Received: from wh01ex02.ceskymobil.cz (wh01ex02.ceskymobil.cz [172.20.128.42]) by smtp1.oskarmobil.cz (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3L8SKJ72589; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:28:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Milon.Papezik@oskarmobil.cz) Received: by wh01ex02.ceskymobil.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:29:14 +0200 Message-ID: <11CCE9D433CFD311B32A00508B95BCA005E4A1E1@wh01ex02.ceskymobil.cz> From: Milon Papezik To: "'Linh Pham'" , Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Patrick Calkins , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:29:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org DL 380 works great here (with release 4.2). The ida driver is in GENERIC kernel, so you can simply install from CD. Milon -- m.papezik@post.cz -----Original Message----- From: Linh Pham [mailto:lplist@closedsrc.org] Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 6:22 To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Patrick Calkins; Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail); Freebsd-Questions (E-mail) Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? On 2001-04-20, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: # This isn't true for Compaq - they sell preloaded Linux systems. # Please check the following URL: # # http://www.compaq.com/products/workstations/software-platform/osmatrix.html What I meant is that not all of the Windows-based solutions are available for the servers that come with Linux pre-loaded. This is changing, some quicker than others... but it's not easy to get a quad-processor server with Linux pre-loaded... from Compaq anyways :) # They ALSO have at least one Intel-based system running FreeBSD # in their testdrive center (although they do NOT sell preloaded # FreeBSD systems) Unfortunately... nor do they have any Alpha based workstations pre-loaded with FreeBSD like one of their Alpha test-drive servers :( # There is also the ida driver which supports the Compaq SmartRaid # controllers. Do you know which versions of the SmartRAID controller is supported. I do have a fairly old Compaq server running FreeBSD, but I would like to get it on a DL380 or something as a hefty mail/DNS server for work. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message