From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Aug 20 5:42:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7503D37B427 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 05:42:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:290:27ff:fe98:c0b7]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3CD24D33; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:41:45 +0900 (JST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F62D140B; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:41:42 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:41:39 +0900 Message-ID: <7mbslaaoos.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cgi In-Reply-To: <3B793B98.2010809@tcoip.com.br> References: <3B793B98.2010809@tcoip.com.br> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:54:16 -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Can anyone send me the configuration for the FreeBSD www mirror cgis on > Apache? All CGIs linked from www.FreeBSD.org contents (including mirror) should point original CGIs www. Do you want to use CGIs on your local mirror? -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Aug 21 8:54:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from orbimus.dhs.org (cg52970-c.adubn1.nj.home.com [65.9.202.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1512D37B403 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:54:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from klined@orbimus.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (klined@localhost) by orbimus.dhs.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7LFseS59299 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:54:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from klined@orbimus.dhs.org) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:54:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Kyle Rollin To: Subject: WWW/CVS Mirror ... Information ? Message-ID: <20010821114713.X59289-100000@orbimus.dhs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear FreeBSD: I am interested in becoming an official mirror for FreeBSD, on the machine that lives on my University T3. It is a Pentium Pro 200MHz, with 64MB of RAM and a direct T3 connection to the Internet. The machine currently lives at the University of Hartford, in W. Hartford, CT, USA. I'm curious as to the disk space, bandwidth, and administrative requirements for running a FreeBSD mirror. I'm prepared to upgrade the machine with a dedicated 2.5GB HD for FreeBSD mirroring, as well as an additional 64MB of RAM. Please let me know if you are interested. Thanks, -Kyle Rollin knr@prometheus.hartford.edu klined@orbimus.dhs.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Aug 21 9:19:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.254.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF3F37B407 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:19:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from langd@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Received: from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.81]) by mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111C77B52; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:19:54 +0200 (MEST) Received: from atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.24.91]) by tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6698810AC1; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:19:52 +0200 (MEST) Received: by atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix, from userid 20455) id 2AE5B1367E; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:19:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:19:53 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: Kyle Rollin Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WWW/CVS Mirror ... Information ? Message-ID: <20010821181953.D10931@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <20010821114713.X59289-100000@orbimus.dhs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010821114713.X59289-100000@orbimus.dhs.org>; from klined@orbimus.dhs.org on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 11:54:40AM -0400 X-Geek: GCS/CC d-- s: a- C++$ UBS++++$ P+++$ L- E-(---) W+++(--) N++ o K w--- O? M? V? PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5+++ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+ Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Kyle, Kyle Rollin wrote on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 11:54:40AM -0400: [..] > I am interested in becoming an official mirror for FreeBSD, on the machine > that lives on my University T3. It is a Pentium Pro 200MHz, with 64MB of > RAM and a direct T3 connection to the Internet. The machine currently > lives at the University of Hartford, in W. Hartford, CT, USA. [..] > I'm prepared to upgrade the machine with a dedicated 2.5GB HD for FreeBSD > mirroring, as well as an additional 64MB of RAM. First, thanks for your offer and your commitment to contribute to the distribution of FreeBSD. I cannot speak for the project, just for myself. Alas, your equipment seems not sufficient for the job. A full mirror of FreeBSD can consume up to 50 GB, you would have to make a _very careful_ selection of what to mirror and still have to fight with full filesystems. Bandwidth may be ok, but could become a bottleneck. CPU and memory may not be the issue, but will also limit the number of clients (and the services you can offer) (esp. memory). Here are some figures for my site, which handles on average about 40 FTP , 3 rsync and 2 cvsup connections (but not just FreeBSD): 4 x PPro 200 (just like yours, but a 4-way SMP), 512 MB RAM, and ~ 400 GB on disk arrays, 100Mbps switched to a shared OC-12 line. Best regards, Daniel -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - kommst du siehst du, gehst du hast du, weisst du, krass! - Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * +49 89 289 25735 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Aug 21 10:24: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from claven.cs.wisc.edu (claven.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.6.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5E637B440 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:23:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jolson@tux38.cs.wisc.edu) Received: from tux38.cs.wisc.edu (tux38.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.111.138]) by claven.cs.wisc.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA11488; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:23:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from jolson@localhost) by tux38.cs.wisc.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA15923; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:23:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:23:48 -0500 From: James Olson To: Daniel Lang Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WWW/CVS Mirror ... Information ? Message-ID: <20010821122348.B15901@tux38.cs.wisc.edu> References: <20010821114713.X59289-100000@orbimus.dhs.org> <20010821181953.D10931@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010821181953.D10931@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>; from dl@leo.org on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 06:19:53PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Along the same lines, is it possible to be an official mirror without mirroring all 50 gigs? Currently I have 4.2, 4.3, 4.x stable and all -current stuff mirrored until i can get more disk space for the rest of FreeBSD. -Jim On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 06:19:53PM +0200, Daniel Lang wrote: > Dear Kyle, > > Kyle Rollin wrote on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 11:54:40AM -0400: > [..] > > First, thanks for your offer and your commitment to contribute > to the distribution of FreeBSD. > > I cannot speak for the project, just for myself. > Alas, your equipment seems not sufficient for the job. > A full mirror of FreeBSD can consume up to 50 GB, > you would have to make a _very careful_ selection of what to mirror > and still have to fight with full filesystems. > Bandwidth may be ok, but could become a bottleneck. > > CPU and memory may not be the issue, but will also limit > the number of clients (and the services you can offer) > (esp. memory). > > Here are some figures for my site, which handles on average > about 40 FTP , 3 rsync and 2 cvsup connections (but not just FreeBSD): > > 4 x PPro 200 (just like yours, but a 4-way SMP), 512 MB RAM, > and ~ 400 GB on disk arrays, 100Mbps switched to a shared > OC-12 line. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Aug 21 11:18:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mailout2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.254.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6F237B409 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:18:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from langd@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Received: from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.81]) by mailout2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E2C8403; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:18:22 +0200 (MEST) Received: from atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.24.91]) by tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B1610AC1; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:18:20 +0200 (MEST) Received: by atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix, from userid 20455) id 897861367E; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:18:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:18:21 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: James Olson Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WWW/CVS Mirror ... Information ? Message-ID: <20010821201821.A11705@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <20010821114713.X59289-100000@orbimus.dhs.org> <20010821181953.D10931@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <20010821122348.B15901@tux38.cs.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010821122348.B15901@tux38.cs.wisc.edu>; from jolson@cs.wisc.edu on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 12:23:48PM -0500 X-Geek: GCS/CC d-- s: a- C++$ UBS++++$ P+++$ L- E-(---) W+++(--) N++ o K w--- O? M? V? PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5+++ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+ Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, James Olson wrote on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 12:23:48PM -0500: > Along the same lines, is it possible to be an official mirror without mirroring > all 50 gigs? Currently I have 4.2, 4.3, 4.x stable and all -current stuff > mirrored until i can get more disk space for the rest of FreeBSD. [..] Well, some people on this list (Jason Andrade?) have proposed some terminology, like "tier 1"-mirrors, which should carry the whole lot, and which are able to sync from ftp-master. Further there are other mirrors (tier 2 and above), which do not sync directly, but from tier 1 mirrors. I think the discussion went that way, that official mirrors (with a freebsd.org DNS entry) should carry as much as possible and should preferably be tier 1, since they can be refered to as 'official' sources (e.g. in sysinstall). But as far as I can tell, this is not enforced. Access to ftp-master and DNS entries are handled separately by different people, and mainly on a individual basis (the responsible admin decides, if the request is granted). Of course, the set of files intended to mirror will have impact on the decision, (as well as estimated service quality, like bandwidth ). Correct me if I'm wrong... Best regards, Daniel -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - ceterum censeo Microsoftinem esse delendam - *Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * +49 89 289 25735 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Aug 21 12:37:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4E237B407 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:37:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@dstc.edu.au) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7LJX6j05505; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 05:33:06 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 05:33:15 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: Daniel Lang Cc: James Olson , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WWW/CVS Mirror ... Information ? In-Reply-To: <20010821201821.A11705@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Daniel Lang wrote: > > Along the same lines, is it possible to be an official mirror without mirroring > > all 50 gigs? Currently I have 4.2, 4.3, 4.x stable and all -current stuff > > mirrored until i can get more disk space for the rest of FreeBSD. > [..] > Well, some people on this list (Jason Andrade?) have proposed > some terminology, like "tier 1"-mirrors, which should carry the > whole lot, and which are able to sync from ftp-master. > Further there are other mirrors (tier 2 and above), which > do not sync directly, but from tier 1 mirrors. i'd proposed something.. there was informal agreement that it might be a sensible thing, but there hasn't actually been any formal adoption of it as a model, let alone any enforcement. to summarise, if you are heading down the track of wanting to be a tier-1 mirror, which requires carrying a complete freebsd archive and having significant bandwidth (45Mbit ? 155Mbit?) to serve end users and other mirror sites, then i'm sure it wouldn't be a problem being considered official while it's setup. if you planned to serve a more regional focus and carry parts of the archive, then it'd be as a tier-2. tier-2 sites would be listed as download sites in sysinstall - the only difference was that they might be required to sync from a tier-1, instead of ftp-master. there was no intention of presenting a tier-2 mirror as a "less preferable" one to end users.. it was proposed this way to add some scaling into the freebsd mirror network from a back end POV. i really should put up something a bit more formal and see if a few people here are willing to bash it into something that is workable and enforceable... cheers, -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Aug 21 14:35:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tcoip.com.br (cerberus.tcoip.com.br [200.220.254.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C7937B409 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 14:35:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daniel.sobral@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br (4pr46sj0hcyi0cjk@[192.168.60.194]) by mail.tcoip.com.br (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f7LLUPS03484; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:30:26 -0300 Message-ID: <3B82D2F3.2010409@tcoip.com.br> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:30:27 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010808 X-Accept-Language: en, pt-br, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cgi References: <3B793B98.2010809@tcoip.com.br> <7mbslaaoos.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jun Kuriyama wrote: > At Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:54:16 -0300, > Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > >>Can anyone send me the configuration for the FreeBSD www mirror cgis on >>Apache? >> > > All CGIs linked from www.FreeBSD.org contents (including mirror) > should point original CGIs www. > > Do you want to use CGIs on your local mirror? It would be useful, at least for a few like cvsweb. But if no one else does it... -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@notorious.bsdconspiracy.net In order to live free and happily, you must sacrifice boredom. It is not always an easy sacrifice. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Aug 21 19: 0:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts14.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E81737B405 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:00:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reel@sympatico.ca) Received: from HSE-QuebecCity-ppp80668.qc.sympatico.ca ([64.229.233.95]) by tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010822020033.JUPM24413.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp80668.qc.sympatico.ca>; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:00:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:00:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Felix-Antoine Paradis X-X-Sender: To: Daniel Lang Cc: James Olson , Subject: Re: WWW/CVS Mirror ... Information ? In-Reply-To: <20010821201821.A11705@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Message-ID: <20010821215721.I12461-100000@idem.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Daniel Lang wrote: > James Olson wrote on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 12:23:48PM -0500: > > Along the same lines, is it possible to be an official mirror without m= irroring > > all 50 gigs? Currently I have 4.2, 4.3, 4.x stable and all -current st= uff > > mirrored until i can get more disk space for the rest of FreeBSD. > [..] > Well, some people on this list (Jason Andrade?) have proposed > some terminology, like "tier 1"-mirrors, which should carry the > whole lot, and which are able to sync from ftp-master. > Further there are other mirrors (tier 2 and above), which > do not sync directly, but from tier 1 mirrors. > > I think the discussion went that way, that official mirrors > (with a freebsd.org DNS entry) should carry as much as possible > and should preferably be tier 1, since they can be refered to > as 'official' sources (e.g. in sysinstall). > > But as far as I can tell, this is not enforced. Access to > ftp-master and DNS entries are handled separately by different people, > and mainly on a individual basis (the responsible admin decides, > if the request is granted). Of course, the set of files > intended to mirror will have impact on the decision, > (as well as estimated service quality, like bandwidth ). > > Correct me if I'm wrong... This sounds pretty good. This seems to be a structured way of doing things. But, here is one of my questions: Will that structure slow down the distribution or new files/changes? if file1 is changed, and the tier 2 server updates a bit before tier1 server does, will that slow things? Will the "mirroration" ;> time will be taken into consideration? Regards, F=E9lix-Antoine Paradis - felix@unixconsult.org && felix@freebsd-fr.org && 1-418-261-0865 - Qu=E9bec, Canada - Unix Consult Technologies - finger key@idem.ath.cx for public key. - FreeBSD French Documentation Project; www.FreeBSD-fr.org - Les Sheriff et les Sales Majest=E9s: Oi! Oi! Oi! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Aug 21 19:24:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A4637B403 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:24:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@dstc.edu.au) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7M2Kfj25450; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:20:41 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:20:50 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: Felix-Antoine Paradis Cc: Daniel Lang , James Olson , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WWW/CVS Mirror ... Information ? In-Reply-To: <20010821215721.I12461-100000@idem.ath.cx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Felix-Antoine Paradis wrote: > Will that structure slow down the distribution or new files/changes? > > if file1 is changed, and the tier 2 server updates a bit before tier1 > server does, will that slow things? > > Will the "mirroration" ;> time will be taken into consideration? it would certainly have issues. there would be a couple of ways around this. o have tier-1 sites do a large number of checks, e.g once an hour or every 4 hours. this would reduce any window of time in which content was updated on ftp-master, was pulled by a tier-1 and a 24 hour gap before a tier-2 grabbed it o have tier-1 sites coordinate their updates with content updates on ftp-master. i.e changes on ftp-master are only allowed within a certain window of time. o setup a push mechanism of rsync over ssh, such that the master pushes the content out to tier-1 servers if there are changes. my personal feeling is that either option 2 or 3 would work reasonbly well, but all of the above would require some level of communication and coordination between freebsd developers and the ftp-master maintainer(s). i would certainly have very large issues if there was no co-ordination such that someone made a change on ftp-master e.g moving a major directory, which resulted in a "push" that deleted gigabytes of local data, only to refetch it again in a new location. regards, -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Aug 24 12:11:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from shellhung.org (www.shellhung.org [203.194.160.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7280A37B40D for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:11:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shell@shellhung.org) Received: (from shell@localhost) by shellhung.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f7OGaRo01226 for hubs@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 00:36:27 +0800 (HKT) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 00:36:27 +0800 From: "Hin-lik Hung, Shell" To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: New FreeBSD WWW Mirror in Hong Kong Message-ID: <20010825003627.A24720@shellhung.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have setup my site to mirroring FreeBSD's www everyday, and here is the information, could you add this site in the page that everyone can use it please ? URL : http://freebsd.shellhung.org Location : Hong Kong, China Maintainer : Shell Hung Thank you ! -- Best Regards, Shell Hung http://www.shellhung.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Aug 25 8:42:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0FE37B405 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 08:42:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) id f7PFgiW69221 for hubs@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:42:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:42:44 -0500 (CDT) Organization: @Home Network From: Conrad Sabatier To: hubs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Interested in becoming a cvsup mirror Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are there any certain minimum requirements for becoming an official cvsup mirror? I have a fairly fast cable connection, lots of storage space, my box is up 24/7, and I thought this might be a much more worthwhile thing to do than, say, running an OpenNap server. :-) If there are some guidelines available somewhere that I've overlooked, please do let me know. Thanks. -- Conrad Sabatier conrads@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Aug 25 8:50:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from ringworld.nanolink.com (discworld.nanolink.com [217.75.135.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B3E3D37B401 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 08:50:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@ringworld.nanolink.com) Received: (qmail 12027 invoked by uid 1000); 25 Aug 2001 15:48:48 -0000 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 18:48:48 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: Conrad Sabatier Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Interested in becoming a cvsup mirror Message-ID: <20010825184848.F559@ringworld.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Conrad Sabatier , hubs@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from conrads@home.com on Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 10:42:44AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 10:42:44AM -0500, Conrad Sabatier wrote: > Are there any certain minimum requirements for becoming an official cvsup > mirror? > > I have a fairly fast cable connection, lots of storage space, my box is up 24/7, > and I thought this might be a much more worthwhile thing to do than, say, > running an OpenNap server. :-) > > If there are some guidelines available somewhere that I've overlooked, please > do let me know. For starters, take a look at the -hubs archive :) There have been several messages in the past few days WRT new mirror requirements. For starters, look at a message from yesterday or the day before with a subject of 'WWW/FTP mirror .. Information?', having a Message-Id: <20010821114713.X59289-100000@orbimus.dhs.org> and the ensuing thread. G'luck, Peter -- If wishes were fishes, the antecedent of this conditional would be true. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message