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Subject: Re: Provider's LCP requests :(
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On Saturday 19 May 2001 23:43, Nicolas Souchu wrote:
> My provider send every 10s an LCP request. The interface never
> disconnect because of this traffic.
>
> I've applied Gary's patch on my 4.3-stable but it does not seem to
> work :(
>
> How does this patch work actually? There's nothing related to LCP
> requests in it. Surprisingly, the patch has been reported to work
> last year.
>
> Thanks in advance.

Hmmm... remind me which patch this is (there's been a lot of water under the 
bridge since then) and I'll try to explain how it works. A reference to 
something in the mailling list archive would be nice.

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On Sunday 20 May 2001 09:28, Gary Jennejohn wrote:
> On Saturday 19 May 2001 23:43, Nicolas Souchu wrote:
> > My provider send every 10s an LCP request. The interface never
> > disconnect because of this traffic.
> >
> > I've applied Gary's patch on my 4.3-stable but it does not seem to
> > work :(
> >
> > How does this patch work actually? There's nothing related to LCP
> > requests in it. Surprisingly, the patch has been reported to work
> > last year.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> Hmmm... remind me which patch this is (there's been a lot of water under
> the bridge since then) and I'll try to explain how it works. A reference to
> something in the mailling list archive would be nice.

OK, I now know what the patch is supposed to do. Funny that it's only in 
-current but never made it into -stable.

Basically the patch adds 2 new fields to struct sppp - pp_last_{sent,recv}.
NOTE: this change to struct sppp means that you _must_ also recompile 
spppcontrol !

The new fields are set in if_spppsubr.c whenever a "normal" packet goes 
out/comes in over the interface in sppp_output() and sppp_input() resp. 
Control packets such as LCP stuff should not be reflected since sppp_input() 
should be exited early and sppp_output() isn't used to send such packets.

There's a new routine in i4b_l4.c called i4b_get_idletime() which calls the 
routine i4bisppp_idletime() in i4b_isppp.c if the interface is sppp. The 
latter returns the larger of pp_last_sent and pp_last_recv.

Now, i4b_get_idletime() is used in all the shorthold routines in i4b_l4.c to 
get the active time. The returned value is used appropriately to figure out 
whether the idle timeout has expired.

Since the routines in if_spppsubr.c should only update the pp_last_* fields 
for "normal" packets, traffic for control packets should never have any 
effect on the idle timeout calculations. At least, that's the theory.

Did the patch apply cleanly ? I'd be amazed if it did.

-- 
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Hi,

I knew it for a long time, but I just got interest in the (free) D-Channel.
I know some programs (D-Chat, IsdnChat 
(http://www.wirehub.nl/~ernesto/index.html)) which use the D-Channel, but in 
a very inefficient way (you can only send 20 chars or so, ...).

I haven't really did any research yet, but is it possible to make something 
samilliar? If so, where to find any docs. I'm willing to try to make 
something.

I also know that it is possible to get up to 16 kbit using the D-Channel 
(also free, i thought), but using some kind of protocol. Does anybody know 
anything about this?

Thank you for your attention.

Steven

PS.
Sorry for my bad english.

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From owner-freebsd-isdn  Mon May 21 11:28:33 2001
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From the keyboard of Steve_:

> I knew it for a long time, but I just got interest in the (free) D-Channel.

The D-channel is not "free", have a look at your carriers fine print ... ;-)

> I know some programs (D-Chat, IsdnChat 
> (http://www.wirehub.nl/~ernesto/index.html)) which use the D-Channel, but in 
> a very inefficient way (you can only send 20 chars or so, ...).
> 
> I haven't really did any research yet, but is it possible to make something 
> samilliar?

Yes it is, i can imagine several ways to do that.

> If so, where to find any docs.

All you need is the ISDN D-channel layer 3 doc, they can be found on 
www.etsi.org.

> I also know that it is possible to get up to 16 kbit using the D-Channel 
> (also free, i thought), but using some kind of protocol. Does anybody know 
> anything about this?

Same, it is not free, at least not here in Germany. Its called the UUS
(User-User-Signalling) protocol and costs ~10DM/month IIRC.

Just FYI, there was a hype for AODI last year, which was an invention from
the US and "everyone" said it was a _must_ to implement it. It was basically
a permanent link on the D-channel and was sold for 10DM a month in the test
phase here. This "_must_ to implement" was cancelled mostly because of a
complete lack of interest some time ago here.....

Bottom line: you will put much work into something which will be painfully
slow to use and which will get you into severe troubles with your carrier
in case you want to use it for something which transfers more than a few
bits per hour.

Anyway, try it out - you will learn a lot ;-)

hellmuth
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From owner-freebsd-isdn  Mon May 21 12: 4:29 2001
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hello,

where can i find information or a howto or something on how to set up a
answering machine via isdn on freebsd 4.3?

thanks

bye

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Simon Putz wrote:
> where can i find information or a howto or something on how to set up a
> answering machine via isdn on freebsd 4.3?
There is a section called "Setting up the Telephone Answering System" in
"The Care and Feeding of ISDN4BSD" on
http://people.freebsd.org/~hm/i4b-095/node79.html .

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Thank you very much for your support :)

I had a problem trying to connect to my ISP with an external AETHRA TPQ 2=
033
ISDN network termination.  Basically the problem was that it connected fi=
ne
with ppp, but connected only with one channel (64 Kbps) and it has two
channels for a 128 Kbps.

Thanks to the suggestions of Brian Sommers and Leif Neland I got the manu=
al of
the AETHRA and looked at the AT commands.

That resulted in the following for a multi-link connection:
set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATB41CL2048 \
           OK-AT-OK ATB40&J3E1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT"

Thanks to all of you!

-edu-

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Its a pleasure for me to announce the availability of active ISDN card
support in FreeBSD.

I have just committed a CAPI driver (see http://www.capi.org/) and a
hardware driver for the AVM B1 and AVM T1 cards to FreeBSD-current
(and will make a 4.x-stable update-procedure available in the next days).

These both components were contributed by Juha-Matti Liukkonen of 
Cubical Solutions Ltd (jml@cubical.fi), thank you very much for
writing and sharing this code, Juha!

I'd also like to thank Mr. Ziessnitz of AVM GmbH, Berlin 
(http://www.avm.de) for the donation of an AVM B1 PCI card for testing
and code integration purposes!

This code being in the tree has some nice consequences, namely that
we now have support for primary rate (the AVM T1 family), that there
is a (hopefully) generic CAPI driver in the tree to serve as a base
to add support for more active CAPI-based cards and last but not
least that because the protocol handling is done in the cards microcode
we now get potential support for all the protocols beside DSS1 which 
the microcode of the cards supports: this is 5ESS, NI1 and 1TR6 for the
B1 family of cards.

I have tested the code with an AVM B1 PCI V.4.0 card and an AVM B1 ISA
V.2.0 card (donated by Christoph Weber-Fahr): there are a few open ends
on which i will work in the next time but basically the code runs and
is in a good shape. See /usr/src/sys/i4b/capi/README for some notes on
the code and administration.

In the past i considered the lack of a CAPI interface and the missing
demonstration that the i4b architecture is able to handle primary rate 
ISDN interfaces in isdn4bsd a major showstopper to get i4b to a 1.0
release. Since this is obsolete now, i bumped the isdn4bsd version to
1.0 with this commit.

Have fun,
hellmuth
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In message <20010525093550.9A463290@hcswork.hcs.de>, Hellmuth Michaelis writes:

>In the past i considered the lack of a CAPI interface and the missing
>demonstration that the i4b architecture is able to handle primary rate 
>ISDN interfaces in isdn4bsd a major showstopper to get i4b to a 1.0
>release. Since this is obsolete now, i bumped the isdn4bsd version to
>1.0 with this commit.

Yah!

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On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 11:16:36AM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote:
> 
> OK, I now know what the patch is supposed to do. Funny that it's only in 
> -current but never made it into -stable.
> 
> Basically the patch adds 2 new fields to struct sppp - pp_last_{sent,recv}.
> NOTE: this change to struct sppp means that you _must_ also recompile 
> spppcontrol !
> 
> The new fields are set in if_spppsubr.c whenever a "normal" packet goes 
> out/comes in over the interface in sppp_output() and sppp_input() resp. 
> Control packets such as LCP stuff should not be reflected since sppp_input() 
> should be exited early and sppp_output() isn't used to send such packets.
> 
> There's a new routine in i4b_l4.c called i4b_get_idletime() which calls the 
> routine i4bisppp_idletime() in i4b_isppp.c if the interface is sppp. The 
> latter returns the larger of pp_last_sent and pp_last_recv.
> 
> Now, i4b_get_idletime() is used in all the shorthold routines in i4b_l4.c to 
> get the active time. The returned value is used appropriately to figure out 
> whether the idle timeout has expired.
> 
> Since the routines in if_spppsubr.c should only update the pp_last_* fields 
> for "normal" packets, traffic for control packets should never have any 
> effect on the idle timeout calculations. At least, that's the theory.

I now understand and will check the code according to your info. Thanks!

> 
> Did the patch apply cleanly ? I'd be amazed if it did.

It did, I had to specify the source paths though.

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> Thank you very much for your support :)
> 
> I had a problem trying to connect to my ISP with an external AETHRA TPQ 2033
> ISDN network termination.  Basically the problem was that it connected fine
> with ppp, but connected only with one channel (64 Kbps) and it has two
> channels for a 128 Kbps.
> 
> Thanks to the suggestions of Brian Sommers and Leif Neland I got the manual of
> the AETHRA and looked at the AT commands.
> 
> That resulted in the following for a multi-link connection:
> set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATB41CL2048 \
>            OK-AT-OK ATB40&J3E1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT"
> 
> Thanks to all of you!

Thanks for the feedback.  I've just committed this to ppp.conf.sample.

> -edu-

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