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On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Corey Ralph wrote:

[snip]
> Alternately, make sure that you aren't blocking the ident lookup with a
> firewall.  It is 113/udp.
[snip]

minor nit: ident (aka auth) is 113/tcp

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Hi, 
i have a FreeBSD 4.3 with Sendmail 8.11.3/8.11.3
in the mailer table i have  this line
.unimayab.edu.mx        smtp:[172.21.14.24]
the server is use to protect of spam the server 172.21.14.24 that is an
Exchange 5.5(MS)
the firewall and NAT that only let in smtp for 172.21.14.5 (FreeBSD).
Every works just fine but with some domain i got this problem.

Aug 13 08:21:09 dns sendmail[12926]: f7DDL8p12926: ruleset=check_mail, 
arg1=<jcastill@reduno.com.mx>, relay=reduno.reduno.com.mx [192.100.183.178],
reject=451 4.1.8 
<jcastill@reduno.com.mx>... Domain of sender address jcastill@reduno.com.mx 
does not resolve

but if i do a nslookup...

> set type=mx
> reduno.com.mx
Server:  dns.unimayab.edu.mx
Address:  172.21.14.5

Non-authoritative answer:
reduno.com.mx   preference = 30, mail exchanger = dns.reduno.com.mx
reduno.com.mx   preference = 10, mail exchanger = reduno.reduno.com.mx
reduno.com.mx   preference = 40, mail exchanger = dns.tij.reduno.com.mx

Authoritative answers can be found from:
dns.reduno.com.mx       internet address = 200.4.144.117
reduno.reduno.com.mx    internet address = 192.100.183.178
dns.tij.reduno.com.mx   internet address = 200.4.145.50

and the problem is the same with other domains.
what could be the problem?
Thanks in advance.
David Perez

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On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 01:11:53PM -0500, A. David Perez Marfil thus sprach:

> Every works just fine but with some domain i got this problem.
> 
> Aug 13 08:21:09 dns sendmail[12926]: f7DDL8p12926: ruleset=check_mail, 
> arg1=<jcastill@reduno.com.mx>, relay=reduno.reduno.com.mx [192.100.183.178],
> reject=451 4.1.8 
> <jcastill@reduno.com.mx>... Domain of sender address jcastill@reduno.com.mx 
> does not resolve

> but if i do a nslookup...

> > set type=mx
> > reduno.com.mx
> Server:  dns.unimayab.edu.mx
> Address:  172.21.14.5

Do an nslookup on the IP.   It's trying to resolve the IP to a
name.  Bet someone left out some reverse mapping.
Does nslookup 172.21.14.5 give a result?  


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reduno.com.mx itself must be resolving

i think what the problem is your domain is in cache as unsolved domain, try
to restart your named

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> On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 01:11:53PM -0500, A. David Perez Marfil thus
sprach:
>
> > Every works just fine but with some domain i got this problem.
> >
> > Aug 13 08:21:09 dns sendmail[12926]: f7DDL8p12926: ruleset=check_mail,
> > arg1=<jcastill@reduno.com.mx>, relay=reduno.reduno.com.mx
[192.100.183.178],
> > reject=451 4.1.8
> > <jcastill@reduno.com.mx>... Domain of sender address
jcastill@reduno.com.mx
> > does not resolve
>
> > but if i do a nslookup...
>
> > > set type=mx
> > > reduno.com.mx
> > Server:  dns.unimayab.edu.mx
> > Address:  172.21.14.5
>
> Do an nslookup on the IP.   It's trying to resolve the IP to a
> name.  Bet someone left out some reverse mapping.
> Does nslookup 172.21.14.5 give a result?
>
>
> --
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Mensaje citado por: Bill Vermillion <bill@wjv.com>:

> On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 01:11:53PM -0500, A. David Perez Marfil thus
> sprach:
> 
> > Every works just fine but with some domain i got this problem.
> > 
> > Aug 13 08:21:09 dns sendmail[12926]: f7DDL8p12926:
> ruleset=check_mail,
> 
> > arg1=<jcastill@reduno.com.mx>, relay=reduno.reduno.com.mx
> [192.100.183.178],
> > reject=451 4.1.8 
> > <jcastill@reduno.com.mx>... Domain of sender address
> jcastill@reduno.com.mx 
> > does not resolve
> 
> > but if i do a nslookup...
> 
> > > set type=mx
> > > reduno.com.mx
> > Server:  dns.unimayab.edu.mx
> > Address:  172.21.14.5
> 
> Do an nslookup on the IP.   It's trying to resolve the IP to a
> name.  Bet someone left out some reverse mapping.
> Does nslookup 172.21.14.5 give a result?  
%nslookup 172.21.14.5
Server:  dns.unimayab.edu.mx
Address:  172.21.14.5

Name:    dns.unimayab.edu.mx
Address:  172.21.14.5  
%nslookup 192.100.183.178
Server:  dns.unimayab.edu.mx
Address:  172.21.14.5

Name:    reduno.reduno.com.mx
Address:  192.100.183.178 

more info from the sendmail -bp
%sendmail -bp
                /var/spool/mqueue (2 requests)
----Q-ID---- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient------------
f7DLl4k14756      302 Mon Aug 13 16:47 <Kafpedro@unimayab.edu.mx>
                 (host map: lookup (reduno.com.mx): deferred)
                                       <jcastill@reduno.com.mx>

the email is valid and the domain too, any idea?
David Perez

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On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 dperez@unimayab.edu.mx wrote:

nope it looks like you've got a dns problem..

host 172.21.14.5
Host not found.



> ----Q-ID---- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient------------
> f7DLl4k14756      302 Mon Aug 13 16:47 <Kafpedro@unimayab.edu.mx>
>                  (host map: lookup (reduno.com.mx): deferred)
>                                        <jcastill@reduno.com.mx>
> 
> the email is valid and the domain too, any idea?
> David Perez
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On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 10:16:22AM +1000, torqumada@paladincorp.com.au wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 dperez@unimayab.edu.mx wrote:
> 
> nope it looks like you've got a dns problem..
> 
> host 172.21.14.5
> Host not found.
172.21.14.5 is in the arnge 172.16.0.0/255.240.0.0, so it's non-routable
just like 192.168.0.0/16 and 10.0.0.0/8

it won't have a public reverse dns :)

> > the email is valid and the domain too, any idea?
> > David Perez
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On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 02:22:55PM -0500, Steven Ames wrote:
> The reason is that pam_unix.so makes a call to getpwnam. getpwnam
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I had much the same problem.

> So... anyone know how to get apache to auth using the unix passwd file?

I ended up using ports/www/mod_auth_external; seems to work perfectly.

You'll want to compile and install "pwauth" from the distfile by hand,
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I have a FreeBSD box at home that is running fetchmail delivering to
sendmail (version 8.9.3).  I am getting the following error in my
logs and would like to turn off this behavior:

reject=501 5.1.8 <hardman@huahmail.com>... Sender domain must exist

I know why it is in the .cf, but I am the only user on this box, and
am running procmail to filter the mail, so don't need sendmail to do
it for me.  I found the following 2 lines in the
/etc/mail/sendmail.cf that I think I can delete (comment), but not
very versed in sendmail.  

R<?> $* < @ $+ > $* $: <? $(resolve $2 $: $2 <PERM> $) > $1 < @ $2 > $3 

R<PERM> $* $#error $@ 5.1.8 $: "501 Sender domain must exist"

They are not together in the sendmail.cf file.  Can I just comment
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Butch Evans wrote:


no do not comment them out !

> R<?> $* < @ $+ > $* $: <? $(resolve $2 $: $2 <PERM> $) > $1 < @ $2 > $3 
> 
> R<PERM> $* $#error $@ 5.1.8 $: "501 Sender domain must exist"
> 
> They are not together in the sendmail.cf file.  Can I just comment
> these lines and not break sendmail?  Will this fix this issue?


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On Aug 13, Butch Evans wrote:
> I have a FreeBSD box at home that is running fetchmail delivering to
> sendmail (version 8.9.3).  I am getting the following error in my
> logs and would like to turn off this behavior:
> 
> reject=501 5.1.8 <hardman@huahmail.com>... Sender domain must exist
> 
> I know why it is in the .cf, but I am the only user on this box, and
> am running procmail to filter the mail, so don't need sendmail to do
> it for me.  I found the following 2 lines in the
> /etc/mail/sendmail.cf that I think I can delete (comment), but not
> very versed in sendmail.  

Add FEATURE(accept_unresolvable_domains) to your sendmail.mc and
rebuild sendmail.cf

This will allow a lot of spam through though.

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Following some thinking coupled with a chat with a person or too, I've
become slightly interested in the posibility of a SQUID plugin that sent
a RADIUS accounting packet whenever a request is returned.

I've looked around and have managed to find RADIUS Authentication, but
not much in the way of RADIUS Accounting.

Has anyone heard of such a thing? Any links or information would be
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On Aug 16, Andrew Reid <andrew.reid@plug.cx> wrote:

> I've looked around and have managed to find RADIUS Authentication, but
> not much in the way of RADIUS Accounting.
> 
> Has anyone heard of such a thing? Any links or information would be
> greatly appreciated.

RFC2866 and you might want RFC2882.

I'm rather confused how you are going to integrate this with Squid... what
were you thinking of exactly?

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On 15 Aug 2001 09:43:31 +0100, Paul Robinson wrote:

> RFC2866 and you might want RFC2882.
> 
> I'm rather confused how you are going to integrate this with Squid... what
> were you thinking of exactly?

Well, we (Glenunga International High School, Adelaide, South Australia)
have written an Internet Quota system to stop students using too much of
our bandwidth. This was a requirement of us getting a nice 11Mbps
Wireless link, as the increased bandwidth would most certainly put us in
the financial poo if it went unchecked.

So, we've got something, working and I'm happy. I've decided that I want
to be able to get some more information. Things like per-user MRTG-ish
graphs and the like would be great.

I've not had much to do with RADIUS, but I know that it provides some
accounting functionality. I thought that the two (SQUID and RADIUS)
could be mushed together somehow to provide a slightly more workable
solution to Internet Quota.

Does that provide a reasonably useful picture?

   - andrew

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Can anyone confirm that an IBM xSeries 330 will run FreeBSD 4.3?
I'm just looking at the standard config with 1 SCSI drive and
host adapter.

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On Aug 16, Andrew Reid <andrew.reid@plug.cx> wrote:

> Well, we (Glenunga International High School, Adelaide, South Australia)
> have written an Internet Quota system to stop students using too much of
> our bandwidth. This was a requirement of us getting a nice 11Mbps
> Wireless link, as the increased bandwidth would most certainly put us in
> the financial poo if it went unchecked.

I am assuming that a bandwidth cap would be out of the question, or perhaps
even the use of something like dummynet or whatever to do bandwidth
'shaping'? (I love the 'phrase' shaping when used to mean 'restriction'. :)
).
 
> So, we've got something, working and I'm happy. I've decided that I want
> to be able to get some more information. Things like per-user MRTG-ish
> graphs and the like would be great.

Personally, if there was more than just a few students, I'd find this
horrendous to look at, but each to their own. :-)
 
> I've not had much to do with RADIUS, but I know that it provides some
> accounting functionality. I thought that the two (SQUID and RADIUS)
> could be mushed together somehow to provide a slightly more workable
> solution to Internet Quota.

Well. Hmph. OK, this might be quite awkward. The only way I can think of
getting an Accounting-Start is with munging some sort of proxy
authentication. However, you will get a start saying 'this kid has just
started' but will get no more further information until they
de-authenticate, or log-off, thereby causing an accounting-stop which
contains all the information like how long they were logged in for, amount
of data moved, etc. This is because RADIUS is meant for dial-up work - the
fact that people have just managed to make it work elsewhere, particularly
for authentication doesn't mean to say it's the best way to handle this sort
of thing.

The only other thing I can think of is you were doing Rad-acct update
packets, but that gets messy.

There is a need for this sort of stuff, but in an ISP context, you're going
to be able to get it off the RADIUS accounting from the dial-up port. In
this context there is a clear start and end to a session. In the situation
you're talking about, we're talking more 'hot-desking', and users may share
machines, or the end of a session might not be as easily visible to the
proxy.

The only way I can think of reliably doing this is to take a list of network
login/logoff times and your bandwidth figures taken off the switch, or
whatever, and consider correlating the two - a Perl script to do this
shouldn't be more than an afternoon's work. :-)

In fact, I'm relatively new to Squid, but having just looked around the
logging it does, you could actually correlate the Squid logs with the user
login/logoff logs quite successfully. As to how you then stop a user
leeching bandwidth automatically, is another question... You might however
want to take a look at:

http://www.cineca.it/~nico/squidclients.html

... which I found from digging around some squid mailing lists and web site.

If I think of any other way of doing this, I'll post back, but I'm sure
there are others around here that will have ideas.

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 02:13:26PM +0100, Paul Robinson wrote:
> On Aug 16, Andrew Reid <andrew.reid@plug.cx> wrote:
> > I've not had much to do with RADIUS, but I know that it provides some
> > accounting functionality. I thought that the two (SQUID and RADIUS)
> > could be mushed together somehow to provide a slightly more workable
> > solution to Internet Quota.
>=20
> Well. Hmph. OK, this might be quite awkward. The only way I can think of
> getting an Accounting-Start is with munging some sort of proxy
> authentication. However, you will get a start saying 'this kid has just
> started' but will get no more further information until they
> de-authenticate, or log-off, thereby causing an accounting-stop which
> contains all the information like how long they were logged in for, amount
> of data moved, etc. This is because RADIUS is meant for dial-up work - the
> fact that people have just managed to make it work elsewhere, particularly
> for authentication doesn't mean to say it's the best way to handle this s=
ort
> of thing.

Well, it depends. Squid has no other notion of user session as HTTP session=
s (every request or, in case of HTTP 1.1 persistant connection, several req=
uests). So, user authentication is done on per connection basis (modulo cac=
hing). If we cloud get Squid to call function on every disconnect (same as =
access log entry is written), we could get nice sequence of RADIUS accounti=
ng Start and Stop packets.
=20
> There is a need for this sort of stuff, but in an ISP context, you're goi=
ng
> to be able to get it off the RADIUS accounting from the dial-up port. In
> this context there is a clear start and end to a session. In the situation
> you're talking about, we're talking more 'hot-desking', and users may sha=
re
> machines, or the end of a session might not be as easily visible to the
> proxy.

You don't have any long living session in Squid, see above. Problems with "=
hot-desking" are organizational - same as someone going away from logged in=
 computer or terminal, and should be handled as such (e.g. administratively=
). Besides, if someone is sloppy or "kind" enough to let others eat his sha=
re of network resources, it is his fault and problem.

Regards,

--=20
Adrian Pavlykevych 			email: 		<pam@polynet.lviv.ua>
System Administrator			phone/fax:	+380 (322) 742041
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On Aug 16, Adrian Pavlykevych <pam@polynet.lviv.ua> wrote:

Note 1: Please set the wrap on your mailer properly - this one came in with
all your paragraphs on the same line...

> Well, it depends. Squid has no other notion of user session as HTTP
> sessions (every request or, in case of HTTP 1.1 persistant connection,
> several requests). So, user authentication is done on per connection basis
> (modulo caching). If we cloud get Squid to call function on every=20
> disconnect (same as access log entry is written), we could get nice
> sequence of RADIUS accounting Start and Stop packets.

Ummm... RADIUS really wasn't meant for that sort of (ab)use. You're going to
get a lot of UDP traffic flying over your network if you do this, but if you
think you can scale it OK - so that you generate several hundred bytes of
UDP traffic on _every_single_ HTTP request - then good luck to you.

> > There is a need for this sort of stuff, but in an ISP context, you're g=
oing
> > to be able to get it off the RADIUS accounting from the dial-up port. In
> > this context there is a clear start and end to a session. In the situat=
ion
> > you're talking about, we're talking more 'hot-desking', and users may s=
hare
> > machines, or the end of a session might not be as easily visible to the
> > proxy.
=20
> You don't have any long living session in Squid, see above. Problems with
> "hot-desking" are organizational - same as someone going away from logged
> in computer or terminal, and should be handled as such=20
> (e.g. administratively). Besides, if someone is sloppy or "kind" enough to
> let others eat his share of network resources, it is his fault and=20
> problem.

I think the point I was trying to make seems to have skipped well over your
head on this one - I know HTTP and Squid has no long sessions - that's my
point. That's _why_ RADIUS is probably a bad choice for this. RADIUS stands
for Remote Authentication Dial-In User Service and the name in itself tells
you what it is best at handling - 'long' user sessions that last at least a
few seconds, probably 30 or more (30seconds is a long time at this level).
You are talking about transactions that last milliseconds. I would STRONGLY
advise you read very carefully RFC2866 and maybe even preceeding RADIUS
Accounting RFCs to make sure you really know what you're doing.

Of course, if you want to implement this, nobody is going to stop you. I
just don't think I'd want it on _my_ network... :-)

There are other projects underway it would seem, as well, to actually handle
what you're talking about in a far easier manner through log file parsing
and the like.=20

--=20
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PO Box 604, Manchester, M60 3PR | than any other invention with the=20
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On 16 Aug 2001 16:31:08 +0100, Paul Robinson wrote:

> I think the point I was trying to make seems to have skipped well over your
> head on this one - I know HTTP and Squid has no long sessions - that's my
> point. That's _why_ RADIUS is probably a bad choice for this. RADIUS stands
> for Remote Authentication Dial-In User Service and the name in itself tells
> you what it is best at handling - 'long' user sessions that last at least a
> few seconds, probably 30 or more (30seconds is a long time at this level).
> You are talking about transactions that last milliseconds. I would STRONGLY
> advise you read very carefully RFC2866 and maybe even preceeding RADIUS
> Accounting RFCs to make sure you really know what you're doing.

[ Crosses RADIUS off the list ]

Thanks for the explanation :-)

> There are other projects underway it would seem, as well, to actually handle
> what you're talking about in a far easier manner through log file parsing
> and the like. 

That's how our current system works. The problem that I see is the fact
that currently, it re-reads the entire log file when the process
(squidhelper) is restarted. This causes the Internet to "die" (the cache
server doesn't respond during this time). I'm trying to work out a more
logical way of tackling this.

Possibly a rewrite is in order, but I'm not entirely sure yet.

   - andrew

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can you implement some sort of fail over with this?

if one nic went bad, it'd use second nic w/ second gateway

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> > Is it possible for freebsd to have 2 or more default route?
>
> It is not possible for one network interface. TCP/IP interface can have
only
> one default gateway.
>
> If several netcards are installed, you can have as many gateways as you
> like.
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On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 09:01:35AM -0700, Matīss Elsbergs wrote:
> > Is it possible for freebsd to have 2 or more default route?
> 
> It is not possible for one network interface. TCP/IP interface can have only
> one default gateway.

man ipfw, then look for fwd...

> 
> If several netcards are installed, you can have as many gateways as you
> like.
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Hi, is there a way to force and end to a TCP/IP connection that shows 
with netstat -na ?
Something like kill -HUP or -kill -TERM, but then on a socket? <g>

Thanks!
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On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 04:31:08PM +0100, Paul Robinson wrote:
> On Aug 16, Adrian Pavlykevych <pam@polynet.lviv.ua> wrote:
> 
> Ummm... RADIUS really wasn't meant for that sort of (ab)use. You're going to
> get a lot of UDP traffic flying over your network if you do this, but if you
> think you can scale it OK - so that you generate several hundred bytes of
> UDP traffic on _every_single_ HTTP request - then good luck to you.

I would agree with you, if that was a cause where Internet bandwidth is 
comparative to local network capacity. But in such case there is no reason for 
very rigorous bandwidth tracking - some more coarse bandwith limiting methods 
could be implemented. 
On other hand, when Internet bandwith is scarce (or _very_ expensive like 
bidirectional satelite feeds), one can easily add overhead of 20-30 percent of
outgoing Internet traffic to the local network which has at least magnitude
larger capacity.

> I think the point I was trying to make seems to have skipped well over your
> head on this one - I know HTTP and Squid has no long sessions - that's my
> point. That's _why_ RADIUS is probably a bad choice for this. RADIUS stands
> for Remote Authentication Dial-In User Service and the name in itself tells
> you what it is best at handling - 'long' user sessions that last at least a
> few seconds, probably 30 or more (30seconds is a long time at this level).
> You are talking about transactions that last milliseconds. I would STRONGLY
> advise you read very carefully RFC2866 and maybe even preceeding RADIUS
> Accounting RFCs to make sure you really know what you're doing.
> 
> Of course, if you want to implement this, nobody is going to stop you. I
> just don't think I'd want it on _my_ network... :-)

I bet in first place it is economicaly unresonable to do such strict bandwith
 checking on _your_ network. You'd spend way more on number crunching, than 
save in bandwidth ;-)

Your argument also applies exactly the same to any remote logging, e.g. to 
SQL database. If have to store per user statistics with more data, then just
daily/monthly agregates, you'll have to feed data about every such transaction
to the logging machine. Speaking about millisecond long transactions: if your
squid cache is coping with processing user request at such pace, RADIUS server
can do that easilly (it has _much_ shorter codepath and no TCP handshakes in 
the process).

> There are other projects underway it would seem, as well, to actually handle
> what you're talking about in a far easier manner through log file parsing
> and the like. 

As to log parsers, I have personal experience with such setup. I would not call
that an "easier manner". Computational expensive realtime log parsing, database
reconnection logic, etc... 

Anyway, as in Perl "there is always more then one way to do this".

Regards,

-- 
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On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 09:01:35AM -0700, Matīss Elsbergs wrote:
> > Is it possible for freebsd to have 2 or more default route?
> 
> It is not possible for one network interface. TCP/IP interface can have only
> one default gateway.

If you are saying that having one default route is a limitation of
TCP/IP, you are incorrect. Actually, RFC1122 says,

            When there is no route cache entry for the destination host
            address (and the destination is not on the connected
            network), the IP layer MUST pick a gateway from its list of
            "default" gateways.  The IP layer MUST support multiple
            default gateways.

Note the last sentence. This is one of the few places where I've seen
FreeBSD to be non-compliant with STD RFCs.
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>> > Is it possible for freebsd to have 2 or more default route?

	KAME/NetBSD has an experiental support for multipath FIB.  you can
	have multiple default routes.  it would be a bit hard to port, and
	it needs some more stabilization.
	ftp://ftp.kame.net/pub/kame/snap/

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Jan Knepper wrote:
> 
> Hi, is there a way to force and end to a TCP/IP connection that shows
> with netstat -na ?
> Something like kill -HUP or -kill -TERM, but then on a socket? <g>
> 
> Thanks!
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Use sockstat -4. It will give you the PID of the offending connection.
Then you can kill it.

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> > Hi, is there a way to force and end to a TCP/IP connection that shows
> > with netstat -na ?
> > Something like kill -HUP or -kill -TERM, but then on a socket? <g>
> > 
> Use sockstat -4. It will give you the PID of the offending connection.
> Then you can kill it.

Unfortunately, you *don't* always want to kill the process - think of
a server process handling many clients connections. You want to kill
the connection to *one* client, but not the rest.

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sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
> 
> > > Hi, is there a way to force and end to a TCP/IP connection that shows
> > > with netstat -na ?
> > > Something like kill -HUP or -kill -TERM, but then on a socket? <g>
> > >
> > Use sockstat -4. It will give you the PID of the offending connection.
> > Then you can kill it.
> 
> Unfortunately, you *don't* always want to kill the process - think of
> a server process handling many clients connections. You want to kill
> the connection to *one* client, but not the rest.
> 
> Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no

Since each connection gets it's own pid, this isn't a problem. You can
kill a single ftp session or http session without interfering with the
rest.

Bob
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> > Unfortunately, you *don't* always want to kill the process - think of
> > a server process handling many clients connections. You want to kill
> > the connection to *one* client, but not the rest.
> 
> Since each connection gets it's own pid, this isn't a problem. You can
> kill a single ftp session or http session without interfering with the
> rest.

That's fine for the one process per client case. But I'm talking about
the general case where *one* process handles the connections to many
clients, and you specifically *don't* have a separate process per client.
In such cases it would be very useful to have a command line facility
to kill *one* connection without interfering with the other connections
handled by the same process.

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On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:

> That's fine for the one process per client case. But I'm talking about
> the general case where *one* process handles the connections to many
> clients, and you specifically *don't* have a separate process per client.
> In such cases it would be very useful to have a command line facility
> to kill *one* connection without interfering with the other connections
> handled by the same process.

If you are using TCP and the clients are on a remote machine, there is
no standard way to shutdown a connection from an external process. You
would need to sniff the net to know the sequence numbers involved and
then send a RST.

What you can do is modify the server to use some kind of IPC in which you tell
it "I want to shutdown the socket connectod from ip,port to ip,port" and
the server then shutown(2)s the socket.


				Fer


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Wasn't there an app called tcpkill in the ports?  I just looked and didn't
see it but I could have sworn it was there in the past and was supposed to
be able to nuke individual tcp sessions.

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On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:

> That's fine for the one process per client case. But I'm talking about
> the general case where *one* process handles the connections to many
> clients, and you specifically *don't* have a separate process per client.
> In such cases it would be very useful to have a command line facility
> to kill *one* connection without interfering with the other connections
> handled by the same process.

If you are using TCP and the clients are on a remote machine, there is
no standard way to shutdown a connection from an external process. You
would need to sniff the net to know the sequence numbers involved and
then send a RST.

What you can do is modify the server to use some kind of IPC in which you
tell
it "I want to shutdown the socket connectod from ip,port to ip,port" and
the server then shutown(2)s the socket.


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On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 08:15:02AM -0500, Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com wrote:
> 
> Wasn't there an app called tcpkill in the ports?  I just looked and didn't
> see it but I could have sworn it was there in the past and was supposed to
> be able to nuke individual tcp sessions.
it's in the dsniff port (/usr/ports/security/dsniff)
use it like tcpkill -9 host 1.2.3.4 (or any bpf expression)

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Hello all,

Does anyone know of a good way to give web hosting
customers access to modify their own e-mail aliases
for their domain using virtusertable?

I was thinking something like

/etc/mail/virtusertable:
@domain.com       /usr/home/$user/.aliases

Then in .aliases
user1       user@hotmail.com
user4       user@yahoo.com

Of course this does not work .. any ideas?

TIA

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On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Holtor wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> Does anyone know of a good way to give web hosting
> customers access to modify their own e-mail aliases
> for their domain using virtusertable?
> 
> I was thinking something like
> 
> /etc/mail/virtusertable:
> @domain.com       /usr/home/$user/.aliases


In /etc/mail/virtusertable:

	@domain		useralias

Then in /etc/mail/aliases

	useralias:	:include:/usr/home/$user/.aliases


> 
> Then in .aliases
> user1       user@hotmail.com
> user4       user@yahoo.com
> 
> Of course this does not work .. any ideas?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Holt
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sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
> 
> > > Unfortunately, you *don't* always want to kill the process - think of
> > > a server process handling many clients connections. You want to kill
> > > the connection to *one* client, but not the rest.
> >
> > Since each connection gets it's own pid, this isn't a problem. You can
> > kill a single ftp session or http session without interfering with the
> > rest.
> 
> That's fine for the one process per client case. But I'm talking about
> the general case where *one* process handles the connections to many
> clients, and you specifically *don't* have a separate process per client.
> In such cases it would be very useful to have a command line facility
> to kill *one* connection without interfering with the other connections
> handled by the same process.
> 
I agree, but for the life of me, I can't think of a single program that
does that. The ones that give me greif are things like IMAP and FTP that
open a half dozen connections for one remote client.

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Best way I can think of doing it is via qmail and qmailadmin (a web based
e-mail tool) with vpopmail acting as the mail agent. It's what I use, and it
works :)
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Subject: virtusertable


Hello all,

Does anyone know of a good way to give web hosting
customers access to modify their own e-mail aliases
for their domain using virtusertable?

I was thinking something like

/etc/mail/virtusertable:
@domain.com       /usr/home/$user/.aliases

Then in .aliases
user1       user@hotmail.com
user4       user@yahoo.com

Of course this does not work .. any ideas?

TIA

Holt

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Hrm... the clever way would be to use a directory or database instead of
virtusertable.

The kludge would be to tell your users to have a file in their home
directory (call it
aliases for sake of argument) and then write a quick shell script to grab
these files,
combine them all into one virtusertable and then run makemap on them. Either
force
the user to use a format such as 'bob@domain.com    joe@aol.com' or better
(and
safer because you really don't want them putting in a domain that isn't
theirs) tell
them to use a format of 'bob    joe@aol.com' and then your script puts the
domain
name on. Set the default '@domain.com' to go to the first user in the file
or something.
A config file that says 'domain_name    username' would allow you to set
things up
and keep it simple.

-Steve

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> Hello all,
>
> Does anyone know of a good way to give web hosting
> customers access to modify their own e-mail aliases
> for their domain using virtusertable?
>
> I was thinking something like
>
> /etc/mail/virtusertable:
> @domain.com       /usr/home/$user/.aliases
>
> Then in .aliases
> user1       user@hotmail.com
> user4       user@yahoo.com
>
> Of course this does not work .. any ideas?
>
> TIA
>
> Holt
>
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This seems like the easiest and most clean idea so
far but what should the format of the .aliases file
be?

If i make it like so:

user1:       user@hotmail.com
user2:       user@yahoo.com

And I send email to user1@domain.com both user1 and
user2 still get the e-mail.

Am I missing something? Thanks for all the help!!

Holt

--- Nick Rogness <nick@rogness.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Holtor wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > Does anyone know of a good way to give web hosting
> > customers access to modify their own e-mail
> aliases
> > for their domain using virtusertable?
> > 
> > I was thinking something like
> > 
> > /etc/mail/virtusertable:
> > @domain.com       /usr/home/$user/.aliases
> 
> 
> In /etc/mail/virtusertable:
> 
> 	@domain		useralias
> 
> Then in /etc/mail/aliases
> 
> 	useralias:	:include:/usr/home/$user/.aliases
> 
> 
> > 
> > Then in .aliases
> > user1       user@hotmail.com
> > user4       user@yahoo.com
> > 
> > Of course this does not work .. any ideas?
> > 
> > TIA
> > 
> > Holt
> > 
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Holtor wrote:

> This seems like the easiest and most clean idea so
> far but what should the format of the .aliases file
> be?
>
> If i make it like so:
>
> user1:       user@hotmail.com
> user2:       user@yahoo.com
>
> And I send email to user1@domain.com both user1 and
> user2 still get the e-mail.

Have you tried running "newaliases" after adding them to the .alias file?

- kevin


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--- "Kevin S. Brackett" <ksb@abyss.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Holtor wrote:
> 
> > This seems like the easiest and most clean idea so
> > far but what should the format of the .aliases
> file
> > be?
> >
> > If i make it like so:
> >
> > user1:       user@hotmail.com
> > user2:       user@yahoo.com
> >
> > And I send email to user1@domain.com both user1
> and
> > user2 still get the e-mail.
> 
> Have you tried running "newaliases" after adding
> them to the .alias file?

Yes I have. It seems to want to send a copy of the
e-mail to all addresses in my test .aliases file.

I then thought I would need something like
@domain.com        %1@/path/to/.aliases

But i haven't been able to figure anything out. The %1
so it would pass on the username from virtusertable.

I'm sure its possible but it takes some thinking which
isn't comming to mind. I'm also unable to find any
useful samples about what can go into the
virtusertable and aliases file.

> 
> - kevin
> 


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On Aug 17, Holtor wrote:
> --- "Kevin S. Brackett" <ksb@abyss.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Holtor wrote:
> > 
> > > This seems like the easiest and most clean idea so
> > > far but what should the format of the .aliases
> > file
> > > be?
> > >
> > > If i make it like so:
> > >
> > > user1:       user@hotmail.com
> > > user2:       user@yahoo.com
> > >
> > > And I send email to user1@domain.com both user1
> > and
> > > user2 still get the e-mail.
> > 
> > Have you tried running "newaliases" after adding
> > them to the .alias file?
> 
> Yes I have. It seems to want to send a copy of the
> e-mail to all addresses in my test .aliases file.

I have to ask.  What's a .alias file?

Add this to virtusertable and run make

user1@domain.com	user@hotmail.com
user2@domain.com	user@yahoo.com
@domain.com			default_user

Dan
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> I have to ask.  What's a .alias file?
> 
> Add this to virtusertable and run make
> 
> user1@domain.com user@hotmail.com
> user2@domain.com user@yahoo.com
> @domain.com default_user

The original question was how to let his customers manage
their own entries within virtusertable...


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On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Holtor wrote:

> --- "Kevin S. Brackett" <ksb@abyss.net> wrote:
> > Have you tried running "newaliases" after adding
> > them to the .alias file?
>
> Yes I have. It seems to want to send a copy of the
> e-mail to all addresses in my test .aliases file.
>
> I then thought I would need something like
> @domain.com        %1@/path/to/.aliases
>

I just thought of a very big flaw with this anyway, by doing this wouldn't
the users have to be different then what is already in the aliases file?
or you'd have duplicates. I'd suggest getting courier-imap and use
procmail to make sendmail deliver to Maildir format mailboxes (which
courier needs...) or look at qmail which does this very easily as well.

- kevin


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On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Holtor wrote:

> This seems like the easiest and most clean idea so
> far but what should the format of the .aliases file
> be?
> 
> If i make it like so:
> 
> user1:       user@hotmail.com
> user2:       user@yahoo.com
> 
> And I send email to user1@domain.com both user1 and
> user2 still get the e-mail.
> 
> Am I missing something? Thanks for all the help!!

	Ahhh, this setup will not work for that.  You need a different
	tool to do what you want...like procmail.  Install procmail, then
	in /etc/mail/virtusertable:

	@domain.com	user

	Then in user's home directory, make a file called .forward.  In it
	put this exact line:

	"|/usr/local/bin/procmail -m .procmailrc"

	In .procmailrc, add rules to inspect the TO: part of the message
	and send it to the appropriate real account.  See procmail help
	for more info.

	Of course, there are other tools to do it as well.

Nick Rogness <nick@rogness.net>
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Hi!

Last Thursday one of the sites I host got slashdotted 
(http://www.slashdot.com/) and amazingly FreeBSD 4.3 on PIII 600 Mhz 
with 128 MB RAM took the load gracefully. I.e. until around 5 PM EST 
when I got messages like:

/kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped!

at the console...

So what I did is, I terminated some of the daemon's that were not really 
used as a couple of httpd server, etc. This seemed to solve the problem, 
however... When I run a netstat -na right now I get the impression that 
there is still some garbadge in memory from this experience:

As:
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         217.80.179.220.2822    LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.219.43.81.2591     LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         200.11.220.5.2535      LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         200.11.220.5.1736      LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         200.11.220.5.1735      LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         202.133.131.44.3651    LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.4486   LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.4338   LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.3452   LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.3449   LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.1825   LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.2922   LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.2390   LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.2310   LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.1598   LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.1597   LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.1556   LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.1553   LAST_ACK
tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         203.195.181.4.1440     LAST_ACK

I am sure this has been in there the last at least 24 hours and I can 
see nothing is happening. I suspect that this is because of the no 
memory for rx list, but I am not quite sure. I was kinda a cool feeling 
though that FreeBSD didn't give up, but still runs!!!

Is there anyway to clean this up without having to reboot the system?

Thanks!
Jan



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On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Jan Knepper wrote:

> /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped!

  You need more mbufs.  Use "netstat -m".

...
> Is there anyway to clean this up without having to reboot the system?

  Seems to be FTP connections.  Try stopping and then starting your FTP
service.

> 
> Thanks!
> Jan


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Tom Samplonius wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Jan Knepper wrote:
>
>>/kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped!
>>
>You need more mbufs.  Use "netstat -m".
>
netstat -m
641/1792/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max):
        603 mbufs allocated to data
        38 mbufs allocated to packet headers
601/1024/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)
2496 Kbytes allocated to network (81% of mb_map in use)
26608 requests for memory denied
18 requests for memory delayed
0 calls to protocol drain routines

>...
>
>>Is there anyway to clean this up without having to reboot the system?
>>
>Seems to be FTP connections.  Try stopping and then starting your FTP
>service.
>
Tried that... Didn't make any difference...

Jan


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Tom Samplonius wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:Pine.BSF.4.05.10108180859520.5484-100000@misery.sdf.com">
  <pre wrap="">On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Jan Knepper wrote:</pre>
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    <pre wrap=""><!---->You need more mbufs.  Use "netstat -m".</pre>
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netstat -m<br>
641/1792/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max):<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 603 mbufs allocated to data<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 38 mbufs allocated to packet headers<br>
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        <pre wrap=""><!---->Seems to be FTP connections.  Try stopping and then starting your FTP<br>service.</pre>
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Tried that... Didn't make any difference...<br>
        <br>
Jan<br>
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>
>
>>tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.1598   LAST_ACK
>>tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.1597   LAST_ACK
>>tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.1556   LAST_ACK
>>tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.1553   LAST_ACK
>>tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         203.195.181.4.1440     LAST_ACK
>>
>>I am sure this has been in there the last at least 24 hours and I can
>>see nothing is happening. I suspect that this is because of the no
>>memory for rx list, but I am not quite sure. I was kinda a cool feeling
>>though that FreeBSD didn't give up, but still runs!!!
>>
>I think you might have been attacked by a well-known attack, simply named
>the LAST_ACK attack.  It puts our TCP state machine into whack by not
>sending the proper TCP states.  There is no way around it.
>
<grrr>
It there a way to find out when these connections where setup? Or how 
long they have been open?

>>Is there anyway to clean this up without having to reboot the system?
>>
>I don't know. :)
>
Is there somebody who does/might?

Jan


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    <pre wrap="">tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.1598   LAST_ACK<br>tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.1597   LAST_ACK<br>tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.1556   LAST_ACK<br>tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         193.124.148.213.1553   LAST_ACK<br>tcp4       0  15360  63.105.9.61.20         203.195.181.4.1440     LAST_ACK<br><br>I am sure this has been in there the last at least 24 hours and I can<br>see nothing is happening. I suspect that this is because of the no<br>memory for rx list, but I am not quite sure. I was kinda a cool feeling<br>though that FreeBSD didn't give up, but still runs!!!<br></pre>
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    <pre wrap=""><!---->I think you might have been attacked by a well-known attack, simply named<br>the LAST_ACK attack.  It puts our TCP state machine into whack by not<br>sending the proper TCP states.  There is no way around it.</pre>
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&lt;grrr&gt;<br>
It there a way to find out when these connections where setup? Or how long
they have been open?<br>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:B7A3FE84.F61%25keichii@iteration.net">
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        <pre wrap="">Is there anyway to clean this up without having to reboot the system?<br></pre>
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        <pre wrap=""><!---->I don't know. :)<br></pre>
        </blockquote>
Is there somebody who does/might?<br>
        <br>
Jan<br>
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Jan Knepper wrote:

> Tom Samplonius wrote:
> 
> >On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Jan Knepper wrote:
> >
> >>/kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped!
> >>
> >You need more mbufs.  Use "netstat -m".
> >
> netstat -m
> 641/1792/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max):
>         603 mbufs allocated to data
>         38 mbufs allocated to packet headers
> 601/1024/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)
> 2496 Kbytes allocated to network (81% of mb_map in use)
> 26608 requests for memory denied
> 18 requests for memory delayed
> 0 calls to protocol drain routines

  It looks like you need more mbuf clusters.  1024 isn't enough for most
servers.  You should build a new kernel.  If you increase MAXUSERS, you
will get more mbufs too.

  A fairly busy web server can require an easy 8000 mbuf clusters, but
make sure you put more RAM in your system first, and you recompile Apache
to support more than 1024 processes.

Tom


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>	In .procmailrc, add rules to inspect the TO: part of the message
>	and send it to the appropriate real account.  See procmail help
>	for more info.

Is this sufficient to redirect email that's to a mailing list, such as this one?  The only place I see my address appear in freebsd-isp email is up in the top-most "Received:" header.  The "^TO" regular expression variations in procmail (man procmailrc) don't look sophisticated enough to extract that address, but I'm not very familiar with procmail.

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On Aug 18, Andrew Matheson wrote:
> >	In .procmailrc, add rules to inspect the TO: part of the message
> >	and send it to the appropriate real account.  See procmail help
> >	for more info.
> 
> Is this sufficient to redirect email that's to a mailing list, such as this one?  The only place I see my address appear in freebsd-isp email is up in the top-most "Received:" header.  The "^TO" regular expression variations in procmail (man procmailrc) don't look sophisticated enough to extract that address, but I'm not very familiar with procmail.

In your virtusertable entry use the form

@example.com  user_id+%1

Then in the .procmailrc for user_id

DOMAIN=example.com
ENV_TO=$1

:0f
* ENV_TO ?? .
| formail -i "X-Envelope-To: "$ENV_TO@$DOMAIN


Then filter based on the X-Envelope-To: header

Dan
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Jan Knepper wrote:

> >You need more mbufs.  Use "netstat -m".
>         603 mbufs allocated to data
>         38 mbufs allocated to packet headers
> 601/1024/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)

Yep, definately more mbufs.   See the tuning man page on how to increase
this...

> >>Is there anyway to clean this up without having to reboot the system?
> >>
> >Seems to be FTP connections.  Try stopping and then starting your FTP
> >service.
> >
> Tried that... Didn't make any difference...

Try doing a sockstat to see what owns it...

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Help! 

I tried to use sysinstall to partition and label a RAID 1 drive (adaptec,
scsi), and sysinstall would not let me write out the partitions.  The
error message was "device not configured".  I don't know what to do to
"configure" this drive.  The output from newfs and fdisk are given below.  
This computer is booting from a third IDE drive, FreeBSD 4.2.

Thanks to anyone who knows

John

newfs da0

newfs: da0: `0' partition is unavailable 

newfs da0s1a

newfs: da0s1a: `a' partition is unavailable


******* Working on device /dev/da0 *******
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=5219 heads=227 sectors/track=33 (7491 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=5219 heads=227 sectors/track=33 (7491 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
    start 0, size 39100416 (19092 Meg), flag 80 (active)
	beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0;
	end: cyl 1023/ sector 33/ head 226
The data for partition 2 is:
<UNUSED>
The data for partition 3 is:
<UNUSED>
The data for partition 4 is:
<UNUSED>
newfs da0

newfs: da0: `0' partition is unavailable

newfs da0s1a

newfs: da0s1a: `a' partition is unavailable


******* Working on device /dev/da0 *******
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=5219 heads=227 sectors/track=33 (7491 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=5219 heads=227 sectors/track=33 (7491 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
    start 0, size 39100416 (19092 Meg), flag 80 (active)
        beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0;
        end: cyl 1023/ sector 33/ head 226
The data for partition 2 is:
<UNUSED>
The data for partition 3 is:
<UNUSED>
The data for partition 4 is:
<UNUSED>



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Forrest W. Christian wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Jan Knepper wrote:
>
>>>You need more mbufs.  Use "netstat -m".
>>>
>>        603 mbufs allocated to data
>>        38 mbufs allocated to packet headers
>>601/1024/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)
>>
>
>Yep, definately more mbufs.   See the tuning man page on how to increase
>this...
>
I'll get more memory first and than on the next upgrade to 4.4 take care 
of this...

>>>>Is there anyway to clean this up without having to reboot the system?
>>>>
>>>Seems to be FTP connections.  Try stopping and then starting your FTP
>>>service.
>>>
>>Tried that... Didn't make any difference...
>>
>
>Try doing a sockstat to see what owns it...
>
I don't think they show there... I must be blind...

Jan



sockstat | grep "63.105.9.61"
http     httpd    40029   16 tcp4   63.105.9.61:80        *:*
news     nnrpd    39747    0 tcp4   63.105.9.61:119       63.168.39.174:1431
news     nnrpd    39747    1 tcp4   63.105.9.61:119       63.168.39.174:1431
news     nnrpd    39747    2 tcp4   63.105.9.61:119       63.168.39.174:1431
news     nnrpd    39746    0 tcp4   63.105.9.61:119       65.3.181.59:62907
news     nnrpd    39746    1 tcp4   63.105.9.61:119       65.3.181.59:62907
news     nnrpd    39746    2 tcp4   63.105.9.61:119       65.3.181.59:62907
news     nnrpd    39623    0 tcp4   63.105.9.61:119       154.33.254.5:63743
news     nnrpd    39623    1 tcp4   63.105.9.61:119       154.33.254.5:63743
news     nnrpd    39623    2 tcp4   63.105.9.61:119       154.33.254.5:63743
news     nnrpd    39326    0 tcp4   63.105.9.61:119       154.33.254.2:63741
news     nnrpd    39326    1 tcp4   63.105.9.61:119       154.33.254.2:63741
news     nnrpd    39326    2 tcp4   63.105.9.61:119       154.33.254.2:63741
http     httpd    95822   16 tcp4   63.105.9.61:80        *:*
http     httpd    95818    3 tcp4   63.105.9.61:80        62.100.1.107:1386
http     httpd    95818   16 tcp4   63.105.9.61:80        *:*
http     httpd    95814    3 tcp4   63.105.9.61:80        202.83.72.3:30317
http     httpd    95814   16 tcp4   63.105.9.61:80        *:*
http     httpd    95811   16 tcp4   63.105.9.61:80        *:*
news     innd       878    4 tcp4   63.105.9.61:119       *:*
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Forrest W. Christian wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:Pine.BSF.4.21.0108181558050.5678-100000@workhorse.iMach.com">
  <pre wrap="">On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Jan Knepper wrote:<br><br></pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">You need more mbufs.  Use "netstat -m".<br></pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre wrap="">        603 mbufs allocated to data<br>        38 mbufs allocated to packet headers<br>601/1024/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)<br></pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre wrap=""><!----><br>Yep, definately more mbufs.   See the tuning man page on how to increase<br>this...</pre>
      </blockquote>
I'll get more memory first and than on the next upgrade to 4.4 take care
of this...<br>
      <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:Pine.BSF.4.21.0108181558050.5678-100000@workhorse.iMach.com">
        <blockquote type="cite">
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <pre wrap="">Is there anyway to clean this up without having to reboot the system?<br><br></pre>
              </blockquote>
              <pre wrap="">Seems to be FTP connections.  Try stopping and then starting your FTP<br>service.<br><br></pre>
              </blockquote>
              <pre wrap="">Tried that... Didn't make any difference...<br></pre>
              </blockquote>
              <pre wrap=""><!----><br>Try doing a sockstat to see what owns it...</pre>
              </blockquote>
I don't think they show there... I must be blind...<br>
              <br>
Jan<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
sockstat | grep "63.105.9.61"<br>
http&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; httpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 40029&nbsp;&nbsp; 16 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:80&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *:*<br>
news&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nnrpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 39747&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:119&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.168.39.174:1431<br>
news&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nnrpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 39747&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:119&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.168.39.174:1431<br>
news&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nnrpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 39747&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:119&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.168.39.174:1431<br>
news&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nnrpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 39746&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:119&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 65.3.181.59:62907<br>
news&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nnrpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 39746&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:119&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 65.3.181.59:62907<br>
news&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nnrpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 39746&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:119&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 65.3.181.59:62907<br>
news&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nnrpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 39623&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:119&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 154.33.254.5:63743<br>
news&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nnrpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 39623&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:119&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 154.33.254.5:63743<br>
news&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nnrpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 39623&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:119&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 154.33.254.5:63743<br>
news&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nnrpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 39326&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:119&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 154.33.254.2:63741<br>
news&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nnrpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 39326&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:119&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 154.33.254.2:63741<br>
news&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nnrpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 39326&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:119&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 154.33.254.2:63741<br>
http&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; httpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 95822&nbsp;&nbsp; 16 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:80&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *:*<br>
http&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; httpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 95818&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:80&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 62.100.1.107:1386<br>
http&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; httpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 95818&nbsp;&nbsp; 16 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:80&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *:*<br>
http&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; httpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 95814&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:80&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 202.83.72.3:30317<br>
http&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; httpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 95814&nbsp;&nbsp; 16 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:80&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *:*<br>
http&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; httpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 95811&nbsp;&nbsp; 16 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:80&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *:*<br>
news&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; innd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 878&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:119&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *:*<br>
root&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; httpd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 822&nbsp;&nbsp; 16 tcp4&nbsp;&nbsp; 63.105.9.61:80&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *:*<br>
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From: alexus <ml@db.nexgen.com>
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> well ... let's see
> 
> uiu Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.lightning.net [refnum 0]
> [lightning]  *** Looking up your hostname...
> [lightning]  *** Found your hostname, cached
> [lightning]  *** Checking Ident
> [lightning]  *** Banned: Install Identd for access (2001/4/18 09.20)
> uiu Closing Link: a1exus[alexus@255.255.255.255] (Banned)
> uiu Connection closed from irc.lightning.net: Undefined error: 0

See that a1exus[alexus@255.255.255.255] thing?  This is an address
that uniquely identifies you as far as the IRC server is concerned.

The parts of this address are nickname[ident@hostname.or.ip.address].
Your nickname is a1exus.
Your ident server works perfectly, replying 'alexus' when asked.
Your host is oddly set to 255.255.255.255!

It's not identd that you're having problems with.
Look elsewhere.

-giorgos

PS: For goodness' shake, trim your quotes.  It's *very* ugly having to
go through a message with more than 10 levels of nested quotations to
find what you are replying to!

This is also a question that has little or nothing to do with the
freebsd-isp list.  There is -questions for this type of stuff.

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> From: alexus <ml@db.nexgen.com>
> Subject: Re: IPs/VHOST/ALIAS/IDENTd/IRC
> Date: Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 01:47:32AM -0400
>
> > well ... let's see
> >
> > uiu Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.lightning.net [refnum 0]
> > [lightning]  *** Looking up your hostname...
> > [lightning]  *** Found your hostname, cached
> > [lightning]  *** Checking Ident
> > [lightning]  *** Banned: Install Identd for access (2001/4/18 09.20)
> > uiu Closing Link: a1exus[alexus@255.255.255.255] (Banned)
> > uiu Connection closed from irc.lightning.net: Undefined error: 0
>
> See that a1exus[alexus@255.255.255.255] thing?  This is an address
> that uniquely identifies you as far as the IRC server is concerned.
>
> The parts of this address are nickname[ident@hostname.or.ip.address].
> Your nickname is a1exus.
> Your ident server works perfectly, replying 'alexus' when asked.
> Your host is oddly set to 255.255.255.255!

On kill it's quite common for the kill to show 255.* or 0.*.  Since I can't
get on the server to see what daemon is being run, I can only point you in
the right direction.  Do you have this problem on other networks?  Try
connecting to several servers on the network that produces your daemon.  Is
identd replying reasonably?

If you're using bahamut, you can subscribe to dalnet-src@ using
majordomo@dal.net or slagle's
http://mailman.bahamut.net/mailman/listinfo/bahamut for bahamut.net and ask
questions.  you can get on DALnet and ask in #ircdev or in #bahamut (but you
might get shot at in the process)

IRCnet has a list also majordomo@irc.org.

I'm not involved in any of the other flavors out there.

In any event, it's probably true that this doesn't belong here.

> It's not identd that you're having problems with.
> Look elsewhere.
>
> -giorgos



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