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In case everyone didn't see this message on freebsd-announce:
----- Forwarded message from The FreeBSD Foundation <bod@freebsdfoundation.org> -----
The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce that it has secured a
license from Sun Microsystems to distribute a native FreeBSD version of
both the Java Development Kit (JDK) and the Java Runtime Environment (JRE).
Thanks to the great efforts of the FreeBSD Java team, these should be
available for inclusion with the upcoming release of FreeBSD 4.5 in
January, 2002.
The general availability of a distributable version of Java will
benefit end users, commercial users, and developers who use FreeBSD.
Java continues to grow in popularity and has become heavily used in
server side web applications, one of FreeBSD's core areas of strength.
With an officially licensed binary Java distribution, FreeBSD becomes
an ideal platform for execution, development, and deployment of Java
based solutions.
This agreement would not have been possible without the efforts of Nate
Williams. Nate not only started the FreeBSD Java porting effort, but
also brought Sun Microsystems and the Foundation together to negotiate a
license.
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license agreement announcement is only the first of many occasions where
the Foundation's legal status allows FreeBSD to grow in ways that would
not otherwise be possible.
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and businesses to fund its activities. In negotiating the JDK/JRE
license, where both parties were in almost immediate agreement to
the license terms, the Foundation still spent in excess of $3000 on
legal fees. Highly qualified and experienced legal counsel is the
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The FreeBSD Java community owe the FreeBSD Foundation and Nate Williams
a great deal of thanks for negotiating license. The Foundation has
supplied a considerable amount of time and financial input and Nate has
spent _countless_ hours over a period of years to arrange this.
I would like to emphasise that the FreeBSD Foundation has spent $3000 of
the directors own money on this license and that they are a non-profit
organisation, meaning that donations to the Foundation are tax
deductible. To all those who have expressed interest in financially
helping previously (and everyone else :), I'd suggest that now may be a
perfect time to boost your tax deductions right before the end of the
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From owner-freebsd-java Sun Dec 23 12:58: 4 2001
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Joe wrote:
> Hans Lambermont writes:
> > Linking a JNI .so with only -pthread seems insufficient. I get:
> > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError:
> > libblenderssr.so:
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1: Undefined symbol "pthread_getspecific"
>
> What exactly do you mean by "linking a JNI .so"? Are you trying to
> produce a .so file or are you trying to produce an executable image?
> Are you using an existing .so produced by the port or are you trying to
> create your own? It makes a huge difference in the answer.
Sorry that I was not clear. I created my own .so file and access
it from java by using the JNI.
When not using java, running the program (with the c main() still present)
the program runs fine (linking with -pthread).
When creating the shared object however (and removing the c main() function),
-pthread is not enough at runtime. -lc_r is also required.
My question is 'why is this ?'.
--
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> The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce that it has secured a
> license from Sun Microsystems to distribute a native FreeBSD version
> of both the Java Development Kit (JDK) and the Java Runtime
> Environment (JRE). Thanks to the great efforts of the FreeBSD Java
> team, these should be available for inclusion with the upcoming
> release of FreeBSD 4.5 in January, 2002.
This is great news!
Does this mean that the port will be less annoying? In other words,
can we download the source without going to Sun's site and without a
manual download?
Does this also mean that we can have a package for it?
- Chris
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On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 04:13:52AM +1030, Greg Lewis wrote:
> In case everyone didn't see this message on freebsd-announce:
>
> ----- Forwarded message from The FreeBSD Foundation <bod@freebsdfoundation.org> -----
>
> The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce that it has secured a
> license from Sun Microsystems to distribute a native FreeBSD version of
> both the Java Development Kit (JDK) and the Java Runtime Environment (JRE).
> Thanks to the great efforts of the FreeBSD Java team, these should be
> available for inclusion with the upcoming release of FreeBSD 4.5 in
> January, 2002.
>
This is great news, kudos to Nate and all others involved.
Regards,
Marc.
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* Hans Lambermont <hans@blender.nl> [011223 21:05]:
> Joe wrote:
> > Hans Lambermont writes:
> > > Linking a JNI .so with only -pthread seems insufficient. I get:
> > > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError:
> > > libblenderssr.so:
> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1: Undefined symbol "pthread_getspecific"
> Sorry that I was not clear. I created my own .so file and access
> it from java by using the JNI.
> When not using java, running the program (with the c main() still present)
> the program runs fine (linking with -pthread).
>
> When creating the shared object however (and removing the c main() function),
> -pthread is not enough at runtime. -lc_r is also required.
>
> My question is 'why is this ?'.
My educated guess would be the the JVM wasn't built with the -pthread
flag - so Java doesn't recognize the symbols used by libGL.
I'm not too hot on the ins and outs of C libraries or JNI,
but I've seen the same error with things
that I've tried to build against Mesa.
[ Happy Christmas to all on list, incidentally.
And thanks to 'Santa' Nate for the licensed JVM ;) ]
--
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Hans Lambermont writes:
> Joe wrote:
> > Hans Lambermont writes:
> > > Linking a JNI .so with only -pthread seems insufficient. I get:
> > > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError:
> > > libblenderssr.so:
> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1: Undefined symbol "pthread_getspecific"
> >
> > What exactly do you mean by "linking a JNI .so"? Are you trying to
> > produce a .so file or are you trying to produce an executable image?
> > Are you using an existing .so produced by the port or are you trying to
> > create your own? It makes a huge difference in the answer.
>
> Sorry that I was not clear. I created my own .so file and access
> it from java by using the JNI.
The p5 version of the port has many problems in the area of creating .so
files, and these problems are related to a fundamental misunderstanding
that mnay people have over exactly how to create shared objects.
The fundamental thing to remember when creating a shared object is not
to be overly specific on the linker command line. If your shared object
references things in another shared object, simply leave any mention of
the other shared object OFF the linker command line when creating your
own shared object. (However there are important exceptions to this
rule, and Java is an important exception).
This is a nice rule to follow. When creating a shared object, the only
things mentioned on the linker command line should be the objects which
make up your sharedobject and you should mention no libraries at all,
and especially do not use the -pthread option on your shared object
linker command line.
It is important to understand how Java starts up in order to decide
exactly how to create a shared object. When using the p5 version of the
port, the only supported threading model is green threads, therefore JNI
objects will NOT work with the java executables created by the p5
version of the port.
When the p6 version of the port appears, native threads will be
supported and then you can use JNI objects safely. However, due to the
fact that the pthreads library in FreeBSD is merely a different
implementation of the standard C library and not a separate object, it
is impossible to choose threading model at run time, as it is in other
operating systems. In FreeBSD, you must know in advance whether or not
your executable will use native or green threads and link your main
program appropriately, using either -pthreads or not on your linker and
compiler command lines.
The only way around this situation is to either change the FreeBSD
pthreads implementation to be a separate object separate from the
standard C library or else to modify your main program so that it does
not make ANY C library calls until after choosing a threading model.
This is nearly impossible to do.
Therefore, any executable which creates a JVM needs to be linked with
either -pthreads or not, depending on which threading model it will
choose. That means that we will have separate executables for all Java
standard programs depending on threading model.
Here is the dynamic behavior of an executable which creates a JVM:
1. load the appropriate version of libjvm.so (classic, hotspot client,
hotspot server, other...
2. libjvm.so loads libhpi.so depending on threads model (green
vs. native) chosen from the THREADS_FLAG environmental variable.
This the the point that creates the problem. The C library chosen
when creating the master executable has already been chosen, and
cannot be unchosen or replaced at runtime. Therefore, the runtime
choioce of threading model better match the link time model chosen
for the executable...
3. The JVM continues on and starts loading the rest of Java dynamically,
starting with the java and verify objects, then adding other objects
as the running java program requests them. This is the tricky part.
If you want to use the AWT, the the AWT shared object has to include
references to all of the X stuff it needs. This is "sort of" an
exception to the rule that no shared object should be linked with
references outside of itself, since we have to automagically pull in
the required X stuff at runtime when it is needed. Unfortuantely,
here we run into another runtime gotcha. AWT is based on Motif, and
Motif requires that it be loaded BEFORE ANY Xt calls are made, so
that it can hook up to some sort of Xt magic and initialize all of
its variable before any user Xt calls are made. This causes problems
in the Mozilla plugin, since part of the Mozilla plugin C code makes
Xt calls BEFORE the AWT is loaded, therefore the Mozilla plugin needs
to have Xm and Xt loaded at link time rather than at AWT load time.
I could be wrong about the JNI not working with green threads, but I
heard that on this list.
The real problem is that the FreeBSD pthreads implementation is
interwoven in the C library and cannot be unwoven. Therefore it is
impossible to support threading model choice at runtime in FreeBSD.
Therefore, some part of Java compatibility has to be sacrificed.
/Joe
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Joe Kelsey wrote:
>
> Hans Lambermont writes:
> > Joe wrote:
> > > Hans Lambermont writes:
> > > > Linking a JNI .so with only -pthread seems insufficient. I get:
> > > > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError:
> > > > libblenderssr.so:
> > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1: Undefined symbol "pthread_getspecific"
> > >
> > > What exactly do you mean by "linking a JNI .so"? Are you trying to
> > > produce a .so file or are you trying to produce an executable image?
> > > Are you using an existing .so produced by the port or are you trying to
> > > create your own? It makes a huge difference in the answer.
> >
> > Sorry that I was not clear. I created my own .so file and access
> > it from java by using the JNI.
>
> The p5 version of the port has many problems in the area of creating .so
> files, and these problems are related to a fundamental misunderstanding
> that mnay people have over exactly how to create shared objects.
>
> The fundamental thing to remember when creating a shared object is not
> to be overly specific on the linker command line. If your shared object
> references things in another shared object, simply leave any mention of
> the other shared object OFF the linker command line when creating your
> own shared object. (However there are important exceptions to this
> rule, and Java is an important exception).
>
> This is a nice rule to follow. When creating a shared object, the only
> things mentioned on the linker command line should be the objects which
> make up your sharedobject and you should mention no libraries at all,
> and especially do not use the -pthread option on your shared object
> linker command line.
>
> It is important to understand how Java starts up in order to decide
> exactly how to create a shared object. When using the p5 version of the
> port, the only supported threading model is green threads, therefore JNI
> objects will NOT work with the java executables created by the p5
> version of the port.
>
> When the p6 version of the port appears, native threads will be
> supported and then you can use JNI objects safely. However, due to the
> fact that the pthreads library in FreeBSD is merely a different
> implementation of the standard C library and not a separate object, it
> is impossible to choose threading model at run time, as it is in other
> operating systems. In FreeBSD, you must know in advance whether or not
> your executable will use native or green threads and link your main
> program appropriately, using either -pthreads or not on your linker and
> compiler command lines.
This isn't true for -current and hasn't been for some time. See
below.
> The only way around this situation is to either change the FreeBSD
> pthreads implementation to be a separate object separate from the
> standard C library or else to modify your main program so that it does
> not make ANY C library calls until after choosing a threading model.
> This is nearly impossible to do.
>
> Therefore, any executable which creates a JVM needs to be linked with
> either -pthreads or not, depending on which threading model it will
> choose. That means that we will have separate executables for all Java
> standard programs depending on threading model.
>
> Here is the dynamic behavior of an executable which creates a JVM:
>
> 1. load the appropriate version of libjvm.so (classic, hotspot client,
> hotspot server, other...
>
> 2. libjvm.so loads libhpi.so depending on threads model (green
> vs. native) chosen from the THREADS_FLAG environmental variable.
> This the the point that creates the problem. The C library chosen
> when creating the master executable has already been chosen, and
> cannot be unchosen or replaced at runtime. Therefore, the runtime
> choioce of threading model better match the link time model chosen
> for the executable...
>
> 3. The JVM continues on and starts loading the rest of Java dynamically,
> starting with the java and verify objects, then adding other objects
> as the running java program requests them. This is the tricky part.
> If you want to use the AWT, the the AWT shared object has to include
> references to all of the X stuff it needs. This is "sort of" an
> exception to the rule that no shared object should be linked with
> references outside of itself, since we have to automagically pull in
> the required X stuff at runtime when it is needed. Unfortuantely,
> here we run into another runtime gotcha. AWT is based on Motif, and
> Motif requires that it be loaded BEFORE ANY Xt calls are made, so
> that it can hook up to some sort of Xt magic and initialize all of
> its variable before any user Xt calls are made. This causes problems
> in the Mozilla plugin, since part of the Mozilla plugin C code makes
> Xt calls BEFORE the AWT is loaded, therefore the Mozilla plugin needs
> to have Xm and Xt loaded at link time rather than at AWT load time.
>
> I could be wrong about the JNI not working with green threads, but I
> heard that on this list.
>
> The real problem is that the FreeBSD pthreads implementation is
> interwoven in the C library and cannot be unwoven.
Well, since I unwove it about a year ago (in -current), I think it
_can_ be unwoven ;-) libc and libc_r are separate entities and you
can now link an application to both with -lc_r. It isn't that way
in -stable because it would necessitate a library version bump and
probably cause too much breakage.
--
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Greg Lewis <glewis@eyesbeyond.com> wrote:
> The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce that it has secured a
> license from Sun Microsystems to distribute a native FreeBSD version of
> both the Java Development Kit (JDK) and the Java Runtime Environment (JRE).
> Thanks to the great efforts of the FreeBSD Java team, these should be
> available for inclusion with the upcoming release of FreeBSD 4.5 in
> January, 2002.
Several questions come to my mind.
- Which version of Java 2 SDK will be released
in a binary form with FreeBSD 4.5?
I guess 1.3.1p5, p6 or p7 can be a likely candidate.
How about Native Threads and HotSpot VMs?
- How is the compatibility test with the JCK progressing?
The binary being released will have to pass the JCK.
Is this assumption correct?
> This agreement would not have been possible without the efforts of Nate
> Williams. Nate not only started the FreeBSD Java porting effort, but
> also brought Sun Microsystems and the Foundation together to negotiate a
> license.
We'd appreciate all involved in this present.
Kazuyuki Shudo shudo@computer.org http://www.shudo.net/
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Daniel M. Eischen writes:
> Well, since I unwove it about a year ago (in -current), I think it
> _can_ be unwoven ;-) libc and libc_r are separate entities and you
> can now link an application to both with -lc_r. It isn't that way
> in -stable because it would necessitate a library version bump and
> probably cause too much breakage.
I am glad to hear that, as it is a concern for Java. Unfortunately, we
will not be able to take advantage of it...
/Joe
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On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 12:42:29PM -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote:
> It is important to understand how Java starts up in order to decide
> exactly how to create a shared object. When using the p5 version of the
> port, the only supported threading model is green threads, therefore JNI
> objects will NOT work with the java executables created by the p5
> version of the port.
Ummm, you do realise that a whole slab of the JDK is done with JNI don't
you? JNI objects work just fine with green threads. If it were otherwise
then there would be no JDK port.
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Hi folks,
I wonder if anybody is working on creating pre-compiled native
JDK1.3.1 package. It would be nice if we could offer it with the
upcoming 4.5 release.
-Maxim
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Hi all!
Have anyone php java extension working on FreeBSD with native jdk1.2.2 or 1.3.1?
I always get "Unable to create JVM" error(JNI_CreateJavaVM fails). Any ideas?
Maybe this is about threads problem discussed here?
Maybe I should add some options when building apache|php (php is apache module).
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> I wonder if anybody is working on creating pre-compiled native
> JDK1.3.1 package. It would be nice if we could offer it with the
> upcoming 4.5 release.
As soon as the JDK passes the TCK (Test Compatability Kit), we can make
a binary release. Greg would know more about when that occurs.
Nate
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On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 10:11:59AM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
> > I wonder if anybody is working on creating pre-compiled native
> > JDK1.3.1 package. It would be nice if we could offer it with the
> > upcoming 4.5 release.
>
> As soon as the JDK passes the TCK (Test Compatability Kit), we can make
> a binary release. Greg would know more about when that occurs.
I'm not even thinking about it until the family leaves and the computer
room reverts to a computer room from a bedroom :).
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On Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 05:26:07PM +0900, shudo@computer.org wrote:
> Several questions come to my mind.
>
> - Which version of Java 2 SDK will be released
> in a binary form with FreeBSD 4.5?
> I guess 1.3.1p5, p6 or p7 can be a likely candidate.
> How about Native Threads and HotSpot VMs?
1.3.1 is the most likely candidate at this point. Native threads and
HotSpot depend entirely on their status as the release date for 4.5
draws closer.
> - How is the compatibility test with the JCK progressing?
> The binary being released will have to pass the JCK.
> Is this assumption correct?
This is a correct assumption. I've no status to report on the JCK yet.
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On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 12:46:03PM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> I wonder if anybody is working on creating pre-compiled native
> JDK1.3.1 package. It would be nice if we could offer it with the
> upcoming 4.5 release.
The plan is to do this for 4.5, but the JDK must first pass the JCK to
be legal under the licensing agreement.
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Greg Lewis wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 12:46:03PM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> > I wonder if anybody is working on creating pre-compiled native
> > JDK1.3.1 package. It would be nice if we could offer it with the
> > upcoming 4.5 release.
>
> The plan is to do this for 4.5, but the JDK must first pass the JCK to
> be legal under the licensing agreement.
I'm doubtful whether any Java 2 SDK can pass the JCK
(now called J2SE TCK?) until FreeBSD 4.5 is out.
Even two years ago, the JCK contains about 2500 of VM
tests and also 2500 of lang tests. Java 2 SDK forFreeBSD
will take a certain period of time to pass the tests.
Sun provided the JCK to the Blackdown Java-Linux porting
team in December 1998 or earlier and the team could
announce the availability of JDK 1.2 pre1 in March 1999.
The current situation of FreeBSD JDK may be better than it,
but the release of FBSD 4.5 is only a month away.
BTW, we'd appreciate all efforts on the release of a
binary of the JDK.
Kazuyuki Shudo shudo@computer.org http://www.shudo.net/
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> Even two years ago, the JCK contains about 2500 of VM
> tests and also 2500 of lang tests. Java 2 SDK forFreeBSD
> will take a certain period of time to pass the tests.
So is someone running those tests? Are they publically available to
anyone? Would it be useful if people just tried running the tests and
reporting what fails and how?
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Nate Williams wrote:
>
> > I wonder if anybody is working on creating pre-compiled native
> > JDK1.3.1 package. It would be nice if we could offer it with the
> > upcoming 4.5 release.
>
> As soon as the JDK passes the TCK (Test Compatability Kit), we can make
> a binary release. Greg would know more about when that occurs.
Ah, I see. Thank you for clarification and all your great work on
making FreeBSD a better platform for Java.
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> > Even two years ago, the JCK contains about 2500 of VM
> > tests and also 2500 of lang tests. Java 2 SDK forFreeBSD
> > will take a certain period of time to pass the tests.
>
> So is someone running those tests?
Someone will be, yes.
> Are they publically available to
> anyone?
Unfortunately, no. Part of the licensing issue was getting access to
the TCK.
> Would it be useful if people just tried running the tests and
> reporting what fails and how?
It would be, but unfortunately because of legal reasons, only one person
has access to the TCK tests.
Nate
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Has anyone tryed using IBM's jacks to verify the compiler portion?
setenv CVSROOT :pserver:anoncvs@oss.software.ibm.com:/usr/cvs/jikes
cvs login
paswsd anoncvs
cvs checkout jacks
What about Mauve for the VM and class libs?
http://sourceware.cygnus.com/mauve/
Maybee these prods could be used to allow other to help out in getting the
binary release to pass the JCK. I don't know if there are enough tests
defiened to mimick the JCK, but it's a thought.
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This happens both in linux 1.3.0 and patchset 5. I think it weird enough
to turn out to be interesting to someone.
I have an application which listens on socket and also takes commands from
system.in. So it has a thread which does accept() on a server socket and
also thread which does readLine() on System.in. This combination works
fine until I login as one user and then su to another and start the
program. If I do that, only the console thread (the one that reads lines
from system.in) works -- the socket never returns from accept() call.
...and yes, I did waste 3 hours on this stupidity :(
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Subject: [bug report] / by zero => core dump in appletviewer
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The follwoing code
playersAlive.insertElementAt
( playerId,
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produces
Exception occurred during event dispatching:
java.lang.ArithmeticException: / by zero
at scorch.FakeNetwork.sendLogin(FakeNetwork.java:39)
.....
on linux-jdk1.3.0 but core dumps in native 1.3.1 (this is appletviewer)
I've attached console output. Sorry, can't give you the actual core dump
but console dumps seems informative too...
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