From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 11 2:34:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C89F37B401 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 02:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09506; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:34:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from roadrunner.apana.org.au(203.3.126.132), claiming to be "roadrunner" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdcb9504; Sun Feb 11 20:33:52 2001 Message-ID: <00f701c09416$321fa560$847e03cb@apana.org.au> From: "Doug Young" To: "rootman" , "Jim Allen" , References: <20010209171114.A1291@hnet04.kellyhendrix.com> <20010210190719.H19976@welearn.com.au> <3A856C5F.D56B06D9@aviating.com> <01021010315500.00248@blackmirror.xmission.com> Subject: Re: Hello from russia! Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:34:17 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually mine has been migrated from gargoyle to troll :) new URL is http://troll.apana.org.au/~freebsd/ Just in case anyone is interested, the name "troll" was given to that particular machine well before my time on the management committee. The Brisbane Regional Committee of Apana runs three FreeBSD servers, (gargoyle / goblin / troll) & the names obviously mean something other than "troublemaker" ----- Original Message ----- From: "rootman" To: "Jim Allen" ; Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 2:58 AM Subject: Re: Hello from russia! > On Sat, 10 Feb 2001, Jim Allen wrote: > > As one of the newest newbies, I appreciate all this clarification. My > > impression from reading the FreeBSD site stuff was they had created the > > newbie list to take all the questions that newbies have that get asked > > over and over and over and over again, kind of like a pre-school, from > > which one eventually graduated to the "Big Stuff[tm]" where one could > > get answer to big questions. > > Right, I think this is the perception of a lot people who are new > to FreeBSD and this list. > > > > I have the Complete FreeBSD 3rd Edition and the CD-ROMS, and now, with > > many mis-steps, have managed to get the operating system booting on an > > older machine to the ? prompt. Does anybody have any suggestions about > > the issues I should take up first as I try to learn about this. I have > > no background in Unix whatsoever. I am starting from ground zero and > > frankly, very little of what I have read makes much sense yet. I have > > fiddled with microprocessors since the 6502 and 8008. All I have at > > present is FreeBSD operating on a machine, the manual, and an intense > > desire to "Say Goodbye to Bill". > > > > You sound like you're well on your way already. The Complete FreeBSD > is a helpful and very good source of information. You should also > consult The FreeBSD Handbook that can be found online: > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/index.html > > ..and can also be downloaded in a variety of formats: > > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/handbook/ > > There are tons of FreeBSD help sites out there: > > http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/ > > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html > > http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ > > http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html > > http://www.freebsd.org/support.html > > http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/ > > http://www.bsdvault.net/ > > http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ > > http://defcon1.org/ > > http://gargoyle.apana.org.au/~dougy/FreeBSD_Tutorial/ > > http://www.freebsddiary.org/ > > The sites above are just the one's I can remember right > now but I know there are many more. > > In your future journeys, if you've consulted the resources > above and still come up empty, I would recommend that you > search the FreeBSD-Questions mailing list archive here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists > > .and if you don't find anything, send a polite email to > FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org and ask for some > help. Be as specific as you can, include as much > information about the problem as possible and someone > will help you. > > I hope this helps and bid you good luck and welcome! 8^) > > Regards > > Joe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 11 17:45:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from av.shinsung.ac.kr (unknown [210.99.16.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363E337B401 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from excite.ccom ([209.191.111.242]) by av.shinsung.ac.kr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA10164; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:42:30 +0900 (KST) Received: from excite.ccom [209.191.111.242] by 227.excite.ccom with SMTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:39:48 -0800 From: growband@rediffmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:39:48 -0800 Message-Id: <6deg4n5.80ye3f0i@excite.ccom> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT To: kenbeefown@snoopymail.com Subject: You gotta check out these hilarious video clips! Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Simms
> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2001 4:14 PM
> To: Barry Sanders
> Cc: Steve Hartman, Rhonda Smalley, Jimmy Ward, Big Dave, Dean Fletcher

> Subject: FW: -- 3 New Hilarious Video Clips and some more jokes.

> Joke Lovers,

> Here are the video clips*
>1.  Scratch & Sniff - Hilarious - you gotta see this one!!!
>2.  Grandma Scores - This one's Great. I don't know how they did it?
>3.  Try Throwing Rocks - The title says it all...

> Jokemeister

> Five Bucks -

> A man is walking around New York with his wife.
> They find a perfume shop, the wife goes in, and he waits outside.
> A hooker comes along and says to him, "Like to come home with me, buddy? "
> "For how much?" asks the man.
> "One hundred dollars," the hooker answers.
> "I'll give you five bucks," he replies.
> The hooker swears at him and walks away.
> A little later, the man's wife comes out of the shop and they continue their walk.
> As they round the corner, there stands the same hooker. She takes one look
> at the man and his wife and says, "HA!… see what you get for five bucks?"
>

> My Lying Wife

> "That wife of mine is a liar," said the angry husband to a sympathetic pal seated
> next to him in the bar.
> "How do you know?" the friend asked.
> "She didn't come home last night and when I asked her where she'd been, she
> said she had spent the night with her sister, Shirley."
> "So?"
> "So she's a liar… I spent the night with her sister Shirley."

> *Please Note - to view the video clips you may need to load Windows Media Player
> from Microsoft.
>

To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 11 19:35:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tsmtp5.mail.isp (unknown [195.235.113.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76BD37B401 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:35:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from terra ([213.96.120.141]) by tsmtp5.mail.isp (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G8MKIZ01.WC2 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:32:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c1b2ad$293351c0$8e7860d5@es.terra.es> From: "overnat" To: Subject: Pregunta Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 04:35:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1B2B5.8A89DCC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1B2B5.8A89DCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hola soy un principiante en esto de freebsd y me gustaria que me digeran = donde conseguir informacion en espa=F1ol de como configurarlo y instalar = el x window con una tarjeta de video nvidia geforce2 ultra gracias y Salu2. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1B2B5.8A89DCC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hola soy un principiante en esto de = freebsd y me=20 gustaria que me digeran donde conseguir informacion en espa=F1ol de como = configurarlo y instalar el x window con una tarjeta de video nvidia = geforce2=20 ultra
 
 
 
gracias y = Salu2.
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1B2B5.8A89DCC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 11 22: 2:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.rdc1.il.home.com (mail2.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1745B37B491 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:02:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaOne ([24.182.46.144]) by mail2.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010212060230.IBYU23363.mail2.rdc1.il.home.com@MediaOne>; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:02:30 -0800 Message-ID: <000d01c094b9$57902920$6401a8c0@elmhst1.il.home.com> From: "Katie Lebbin" To: "overnat" , References: <000801c1b2ad$293351c0$8e7860d5@es.terra.es> Subject: Re: Pregunta Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:02:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C09487.0CB295A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C09487.0CB295A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hola overnat Hay un "grupo periodico" en espanol que yo halle. majordomo@es.FreeBSD.org Hay dos "sitios en el WWW" en espanol especificamente. majordomo@es.freebsd.org/es majordomo@es.freebsd.org/es/FAQ/FAQ.html Lo siento pero no estoy facunda en espanol. Yo espero que puedes conseguir ayuda con FreeBSD.. Adios! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: overnat=20 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 9:35 PM Subject: Pregunta=20 Hola soy un principiante en esto de freebsd y me gustaria que me = digeran donde conseguir informacion en espa=F1ol de como configurarlo y = instalar el x window con una tarjeta de video nvidia geforce2 ultra gracias y Salu2. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C09487.0CB295A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hola overnat
 
Hay un "grupo periodico" en espanol que = yo=20 halle.
 
majordomo@es.FreeBSD.org
 
Hay dos "sitios en el WWW" en espanol=20 especificamente.
 
majordomo@es.freebsd.org/es
 
majordomo@es.fre= ebsd.org/es/FAQ/FAQ.html
 
Lo siento pero no estoy facunda en = espanol. =20 Yo espero que puedes
conseguir ayuda con = FreeBSD..
 
Adios!
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 overnat=20
To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG =
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 = 9:35=20 PM
Subject: Pregunta

Hola soy un principiante en esto de = freebsd y me=20 gustaria que me digeran donde conseguir informacion en espa=F1ol de = como=20 configurarlo y instalar el x window con una tarjeta de video nvidia = geforce2=20 ultra
 
 
 
gracias y=20 Salu2.
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C09487.0CB295A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 12 7:30:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ser4cddb.pcc1.net (mail.phoenix-cement.com [207.108.154.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F31837B401 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:30:55 -0800 (PST) content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: DHCP Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:31:09 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 Message-ID: <5C1E4D3AE8784D4FB201470C1C77039B08EDDC@ser4cddb.pcc1.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DHCP Server Thread-Index: AcCTiufudx8/DLrtSt6ksIzKAq57BABfU2Xw From: "Cavignac, Sebastian" To: "Tim Erlin" , Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tim, Firstly, check the Handbook for important prerequisites and background information. Then read the README from the ISC (Internet Software Consortium) web page. (Easy directions) http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP/v2-readme.html Also, there is an EXCELLENT DHCP configuration howto in the FreeBSD Corporate Networkers Guide by Ted Middlestedt. My $0.02US _S -----Original Message----- From: Tim Erlin [mailto:tperlin@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 10:57 AM To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: DHCP Server I'd like to set up my FreeBSD box as a DHCP server. Anyone know of a good step-by-step resource? I searched the handbook, FAQ and mail archives and found things related the DHCP client, but not server. Thanks. --Tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35=20 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 12 7:49:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.scana.com (falcon.scana.com [161.156.101.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852A037B401 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:49:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by falcon.scana.com; id KAA25564; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from maildmis.scana.com(161.156.252.90) by falcon.scana.com via smap (V5.5) id xma025533; Mon, 12 Feb 01 10:49:00 -0500 Received: from msg21.scana.com [161.156.252.90] by MSG21.SCANA.COM [161.156.252.90] (CMSPraetor 4.1.3395) with ESMTP id 24A09ABE009011D5B09A0002A507E1C8 for plus 1 more; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:48:24 -0500 Received: by maildmis.scana.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1T73S2AY>; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:48:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: "SILVER, MICHAEL A" To: "'Tim Erlin'" Cc: "'freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: RE: DHCP Server Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:48:14 -0500 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C0950B.358680C0" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0950B.358680C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I recently setup a DHCP server for the first time, and it was surprising simple, once you get some examples of the conf file. I can provide you with one if need be. I think the man pages also have several. If memory serves me correctly you simply load dhcpd with the network device name you want the server to provide addresses on. I use /usr/sbin/dhcpd ep0 to start my server. ...Michael... > I'd like to set up my FreeBSD box as a DHCP server. > Anyone know of a good step-by-step resource? 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I think the man pages also have > several. > > If memory serves me correctly you simply load dhcpd > with the network device > name you want the server to provide addresses on. > > I use > > /usr/sbin/dhcpd ep0 > > to start my server. > > ...Michael... > > > I'd like to set up my FreeBSD box as a DHCP > server. > > Anyone know of a good step-by-step resource? I > > searched the handbook, FAQ and mail archives and > found > > things related the DHCP client, but not server. > > Thanks. > > --Tim > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/ms-tnef __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 12 9:52:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1D337B491 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:52:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA149C for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:56:55 -0800 Message-ID: <3A88221E.F0427FD1@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:49:18 -0800 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hello -*Sue*- References: <001801c0932d$94384160$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <5763641421.20010210101951@home.com> <20010210220757.K19976@welearn.com.au> <942176599.20010210194833@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Y wrote: > > You'd be still using Multics if it were > not for two men who broke some rules and had fun. What rules? And what authority instituted them? I wasn't computing thirty years ago, so I can't comment on the actions of AT&T. But I am around today using FreeBSD and Linux. Am I being a rebel for doing so? No! No! No! There are no rules telling you what OS you can use. Not thirty years ago. Not now. And Hell will freeze over before it happens in the future. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 12 15:24:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387D437B491 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f1CNNrs13789; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:23:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Authentication-Warning: mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com: nobody set sender to tedm@toybox.placo.com using -f To: David Johnson Subject: Re: Hello -*Sue*- Message-ID: <982020232.3a887088ccc7b@mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:23:52 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <001801c0932d$94384160$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <5763641421.20010210101951@home.com> <20010210220757.K19976@welearn.com.au> <942176599.20010210194833@home.com> <3A88221E.F0427FD1@acuson.com> In-Reply-To: <3A88221E.F0427FD1@acuson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 205.139.102.133 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting David Johnson : > Y wrote: > > > > You'd be still using Multics if it were > > not for two men who broke some rules and had fun. > > What rules? And what authority instituted them? > > I wasn't computing thirty years ago, so I can't comment on the actions > of AT&T. But I am around today using FreeBSD and Linux. Am I being a > rebel for doing so? No! No! No! There are no rules telling you what OS > you can use. Not thirty years ago. Not now. And Hell will freeze over > before it happens in the future. > Ahhhh - the other OS's have to exist before you can use them. Thirty years ago things were a lot different.... Ted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 13 4:47:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web3504.mail.yahoo.com (web3504.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BD2637B65D for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 04:47:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20010213124728.4144.qmail@web3504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [144.32.128.133] by web3504.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:47:28 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:47:28 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Mich=E8l=20Alexandre=20Salim?= Subject: Fwd: Hi all To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1091495350-982068448=:2215" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0-1091495350-982068448=:2215 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Cross-posted to too many lists, oops. Note: forwarded message attached. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie --0-1091495350-982068448=:2215 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from [144.32.128.133] by web3504.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:44:40 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:44:40 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Mich=E8l=20Alexandre=20Salim?= Subject: Hi all To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1086 Thank you for the feedback to my previous question. In the end I decided against running FreeBSD on my desktop machine, since the PCMCIA card reader is quite dodgy - it barely works in Linux! I have just acquired a Sony Picturebook C1VE - the European model of the C1VN, without internal modem :). Any suggestions on setting this up will be appreciated - especially things like X-Windows and sound (I assume I can just copy my XF86Config from Linux?). Also, are the pre-compiled ports - the packages - kernel-dependant? (not sure what the terminology is, steeped in the Linux world). As in, after doing a CVS update and rebuilding sys, will I have to recompile the ports? (uggh). If things go well I'll install the thing over the weekend (but knowing me I'll end up doing it earlier..). Does anyone know why XFree86 4.0.2 is only available as a single package too? Regards, Michel Salim ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie --0-1091495350-982068448=:2215-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 13 4:52:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web3504.mail.yahoo.com (web3504.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9ED2637B491 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 04:52:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20010213125228.4503.qmail@web3504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [144.32.128.133] by web3504.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:52:28 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:52:28 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Mich=E8l=20Alexandre=20Salim?= Subject: Link needs updating To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The welcome message sent to every new member of this list links to www.freebsd.org/newbies.html - the correct link is www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html. Could the list maintainer check this out? Regards, Michel Salim ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 13 5:37: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web3502.mail.yahoo.com (web3502.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F20C737B491 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 05:37:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20010213133704.14817.qmail@web3502.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [144.32.128.133] by web3502.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:37:04 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:37:04 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Mich=E8l=20Alexandre=20Salim?= Subject: Dependencies To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, With packages compiled against XFree 3.3.6, if I am running XFree 4.0.2, will I have to keep 3.3.6 around for compatibility purposes? Will installing just the base package works, and does XF 4 just loooks for XF86Config-4 as opposed to XF86Config for its config file? *clueless* Thanks, Michel Salim ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 13 10: 1:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFD937B491 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA26FA; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:06:08 -0800 Message-ID: <3A8975C8.DBA7E965@acuson.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:58:32 -0800 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8l?= Alexandre Salim Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dependencies References: <20010213133704.14817.qmail@web3502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote: > > Hello, > > With packages compiled against XFree 3.3.6, if I am > running XFree 4.0.2, will I have to keep 3.3.6 around > for compatibility purposes? Will installing just the > base package works, and does XF 4 just loooks for > XF86Config-4 as opposed to XF86Config for its config > file? I found that if you build from ports, it will be no problem, as it looks for specific files with XFree86-4.0.2 include. But if you install from packages they look for the specific XFree86-3.3.6 package. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 13 11:28:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from patroa.dem.inpe.br (patroa.dem.inpe.br [150.163.1.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4943837B67D for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from dem.inpe.br ([150.163.1.9]) by patroa.dem.inpe.br with ESMTP for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:27:15 -0200 Message-ID: <3A8998A5.AE85C3CB@dem.inpe.br> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:27:17 -0300 From: Marcelo C Santos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: help on Intel i815 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------BC1F8872360B181395DD947B" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BC1F8872360B181395DD947B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. I followed several instructions posted on FreeBSD and XFree86 mailing lists but i still can't make my Intel i815 work. I'm working with FreeBSD4.1 (and 4.2) and downloaded and installed the latest XFree86 version (4.0.2). From the log file, i can see that it detects the driver. (i even tried "kldload agp") Attached is the log files, one generated by "XFree86 -configure" (XFree86.0.log) and the other by "xf86cfg" (XFree86.8.log). Error message: "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices." Can anyone help me? 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charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello. I'm a newbie to freebsd who needs some encouragement. I currently run a Win2K Adv. Server with Exchange, and would like to move it over to FreeBSD. A while ago I ran it as a Linux server, but wasn't pleased with the speed as an email server and switched it back to MS. Most likely I had not optimized the install (Mandrake). My desire is to run a server that provides the following: dhcp, ip routing, mail, ftp, web, firewall and proxy (and I want to do this reliably and securely). I don't need gui and all the extra packages that Mandrake loaded up by default--so I guess my question is: am I heading the right direction with FreeBSD? To those of you who know it well: is it what I read (i.e. the most stable and secure *nix)? Can I set it up and let it run with only minimum maintenance and not have to update it constantly (Linux)? Thank you for your input, Henry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 14 9:20:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.scana.com (falcon.scana.com [161.156.101.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD84737B491 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by falcon.scana.com; id MAA03143; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from maildmis.scana.com(161.156.252.90) by falcon.scana.com via smap (V5.5) id xma003078; Wed, 14 Feb 01 12:19:46 -0500 Received: from msg21.scana.com [161.156.252.90] by MSG21.SCANA.COM [161.156.252.90] (CMSPraetor 4.1.3395) with ESMTP id 4CB947E8029711D5B09A0002A507E1C8 for plus 1 more; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:19:03 -0500 Received: by maildmis.scana.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1T73TJ4W>; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:19:03 -0500 Message-ID: From: "SILVER, MICHAEL A" To: "'henry@ammons.net'" Cc: "'freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: RE: Windows2000 to FreeBSD encouragement needed Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:18:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > (Mandrake). My desire is to run a server that > provides the following: dhcp, ip routing, mail, ftp, > web, firewall and proxy (and I want to do this > reliably and securely). I don't need gui and all the > extra packages that Mandrake loaded up by default--so > I guess my question is: am I heading the right > direction with FreeBSD? To those of you who know it > well: is it what I read (i.e. the most stable and > secure *nix)? Can I set it up and let it run with > only minimum maintenance and not have to update it > constantly (Linux)? I have never updated my server, although I should depending on security advisories. I have found FreeBSD to be extremely stable and highly reliable. My servers only go down for two reasons, power loss (no-ups) or I turn it off. One server is going on 64 days of uptime, the other 62. I simply don't have to worry about them. As for the software, such as qmail etc, sometimes I run into configuration problems, but usually by following directions a *little* more closely I can resolve these issues. I have found FreeBSD to be more picky about hardware, but usually it is the rotgut, cheap hardware that it doesn't agree with. This isn't really a problem, since I no longer buy extra-cheap hardware, and because these issues bubble up to the top quickly, often I can't install, or I get constant reboots. I would HIGHLY recommend taking a look at FreeBSD, as I have been real pleased with it. Once Kylix is available and I can write Apache modules as easy as slicing butter, I will truly be in heaven. BTW, I don't use X windows on any of my servers, I just don't see the need. Even once Kylix is available, I will probably develop on Suse and transfer my executables to the server. I am a firm believer that FreeBSD is a great server platform (perhaps the best), but only mediocre on the desktop. Others, of course, may have differing opinions. ...Michael... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 14 9:22:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail04.edsamail.com.ph (mail04.edsamail.com.ph [210.16.71.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 288B737B4EC for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:22:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4833 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2001 17:26:58 -0000 Received: from mail03.edsamail.com.ph (HELO edsamail.com.ph) (210.16.71.8) by mail04.edsamail.com.ph with SMTP; 14 Feb 2001 17:26:58 -0000 X-Mailer: Edsamail 1.31 (Build 1024) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 01:30:03 +0800 From: "Belfred I Antonio" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Questions, XFree86 and K Desktop Environment Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20010214172236.288B737B4EC@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings! I just installed FreeBSD 4.2 onto my system and i installed XFree86 3.3.6 and KDE 1.x. If i will install XFree86 4.x do i need the XFree86 3.3.6 or v4.x can stand alone? Same as in if i will install KDE 2 do i need to install also the KDE 1.x? Thanks Regards. Brian Antonio __________________________________ www.edsamail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 14 9:34:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ancmail1.state.ak.us (rca.state.ak.us [146.63.92.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD6837B65D for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:34:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from dnr.state.ak.us ([146.63.110.47]) by ancmail1.state.ak.us (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G8RCSR00.E36; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:34:03 -0900 Message-ID: <3A8AC203.644820B6@dnr.state.ak.us> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:36:03 -0900 From: Brian Raynes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: henry@ammons.net, freebsd newbies Subject: Re: Windows2000 to FreeBSD encouragement needed References: <20010214165933.4002.qmail@web5406.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Henry Ammons wrote: > >My desire is to run a server that > provides the following: dhcp, ip routing, mail, ftp, > web, firewall and proxy (and I want to do this > reliably and securely). I don't need gui and all the > extra packages that Mandrake loaded up by default--so > I guess my question is: am I heading the right > direction with FreeBSD? FreeBSD does all those things quite well. There are, in case you didn't know, 3 major BSD development groups that are free software. NetBSD & OpenBSD would also be stable OS's for these functions. OpenBSD is especially nice for setting up a firewall, their emphasis is largely on "secure by default" installation and integration of cryptography. FreeBSD, configured similarly, would presumably do virtually as well, security wise, but OpenBSD comes that way by default. OpenBSD requires you to turn on most (if not all) of the services you listed, thus their claims of no remote exploits against the default install for the last 3(?) years. Still, for security, they make a secure setup easier than any of the other BSD or Linux flavors I have tried. It depends on what your priorities are. I haven't tried NetBSD, but they have incredible numbers of platforms that they run on, and a fairly good reputation for stability and quality. This being a FreeBSD list, though, I should say that I have mostly gone with FreeBSD as my favorite because of more extensive documentation, broader hardware support on i386 and a larger selection of third-party ports & packages. If time is a limiting factor, FreeBSD seems to be the easiest of the BSDs to get up to speed with quickly. >To those of you who know it > well: is it what I read (i.e. the most stable and > secure *nix)? Can I set it up and let it run with > only minimum maintenance and not have to update it > constantly (Linux)? Most of the FreeBSD security advisories have been for third-party software. If you choose that well, you should see a minimum of critical updates, at least that's my observation. FreeBSD also has extensive mailing lists for things like security updates and announcements that meets or beats the other BSDs, in my opinion. > > Thank you for your input, > Henry Brian Raynes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 14 10:11:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A43D37B491 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:11:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14741; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 04:11:22 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from roadrunner.apana.org.au(203.3.126.132), claiming to be "roadrunner" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdk14739; Thu Feb 15 04:11:17 2001 Message-ID: <025101c096b1$9895b620$847e03cb@apana.org.au> From: "Doug Young" To: "SILVER, MICHAEL A" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Windows2000 to FreeBSD encouragement needed Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 04:11:45 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can I set it up and let it run with > > only minimum maintenance and not have to update it > > constantly (Linux)? :) :) :) I see someone else has words about the linux idea of "wake up every morning & upgrade the o/s before breakfast" > > I have never updated my server, although I should depending on security > advisories. I have found FreeBSD to be extremely stable and highly > reliable. My servers only go down for two reasons, power loss (no-ups) or I > turn it off. > > One server is going on 64 days of uptime, the other 62. I simply don't have > to worry about them. We run three FreeBSD servers & one Win2000 server for a non-profit ISP. The uptimes are over a year for one, 9 months for the second, 4 months for the third, & ummmm a couple weeks for the Win2000. Both the shorter running FreeBSD machines had o/s upgrades which accounts for the 9 months /4 months. None of the systems have UPS. > > BTW, I don't use X windows on any of my servers, I just don't see the need. > Even once Kylix is available, I will probably develop on Suse and transfer > my executables to the server. I am a firm believer that FreeBSD is a great > server platform (perhaps the best), but only mediocre on the desktop. > Others, of course, may have differing opinions. According to some security experts, X is a risk anyway. I agree totally with the comment "great server platform (perhaps the best), but only mediocre on the desktop" ... the basic FreeBSD o/s is used by many of the busiest sites on the web. My experience with XFree however has been that whilst it may be free, its a pig of a thing compared with the GUIs used in many commercial unixes & KDE is a poorly designed / extremely unstable disaster that best belongs with the boy-wonder linux fanatics who measure uptimes in minutes rather than months. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 14 10:17:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F7437B401 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:17:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA489A; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:22:21 -0800 Message-ID: <3A8ACB14.BFF81594@acuson.com> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:14:44 -0800 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Belfred I Antonio Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Questions, XFree86 and K Desktop Environment References: <20010214172236.288B737B4EC@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Belfred I Antonio wrote: > I just installed FreeBSD 4.2 onto my system and i installed XFree86 3.3.6 and KDE 1.x. If i > will install XFree86 4.x do i need the XFree86 3.3.6 or v4.x can stand alone? Same as in if > i will install KDE 2 do i need to install also the KDE 1.x? I'm not sure about the full ramifications of XFree86-4, so you should ask on -questions about that. But there is no need to keep kde-1.x around if you're using kde-2. However, there are a few programs in ports that still need kde-1 as a dependency. Look in the port Makefile before installing any kde program to make sure that it's for kde-2 and not kde-1. Hopefully these old dependencies will disappear soon. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 14 17:12:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.berknet.net (cafe.berknet.net [213.74.34.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B69537B491 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 49873 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 01:14:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO forrestgump.freebsdturkey.org) (212.253.213.31) by cafe.berknet.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 01:14:17 -0000 From: M.Guven Mucuk Reply-To: guven@berknet.net Organization: BerkNet Internet Services To: henry@ammons.net, Henry Ammons , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Windows2000 to FreeBSD encouragement needed Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 03:07:24 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <20010214165933.4002.qmail@web5406.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010214165933.4002.qmail@web5406.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01021503114901.00639@forrestgump.freebsdturkey.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Henry Ammons wrote: > Hello. > > I'm a newbie to freebsd who needs some encouragement. > I currently run a Win2K Adv. Server with Exchange, and > would like to move it over to FreeBSD. A while ago I > ran it as a Linux server, but wasn't pleased with the > speed as an email server and switched it back to MS. > Most likely I had not optimized the install > (Mandrake). My desire is to run a server that > provides the following: dhcp, ip routing, mail, ftp, > web, firewall and proxy (and I want to do this > reliably and securely). I don't need gui and all the > extra packages that Mandrake loaded up by default--so > I guess my question is: am I heading the right > direction with FreeBSD? To those of you who know it > well: is it what I read (i.e. the most stable and > secure *nix)? Can I set it up and let it run with > only minimum maintenance and not have to update it > constantly (Linux)? > > Thank you for your input, > Henry > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Under same conditions (on the same server system/hardware and connection) does win2k adv. server/EX perform better than linux as an email server? And how? :) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= M. Guven Mucuk UNIX System Administrator - BerkNet Internet Services www.berknet.net Bilecik - TURKEY =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 15 5: 2:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bne004m.webcentral.com.au (bne004m.webcentral.com.au [202.139.235.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1E5937B491 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:02:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27063 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 13:02:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warhawk) (203.147.160.62) by bne004m.webcentral.com.au with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 13:02:11 -0000 Message-ID: <00ac01c09750$0bd15560$0100a8c0@warhawk> From: "Haikal Saadh" To: "Doug Young" , , "Ragnar Beer" References: <065201c092dc$4e60c8c0$847e03cb@apana.org.au> Subject: Re: ISDN Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:05:24 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Why bother with ISDN? optus@home cable's just $60 a month...ADSL comes in from 70 IIRC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Young" To: ; "Ragnar Beer" Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 7:07 AM Subject: Re: ISDN > An off-topic question for you ......whats the going price for an ISDN > connection > in Germany ?? I'd get one immediately here but the crooks who own the only > service provider in OZ capable of connecting ISDN demand $AU385 per month > just for connectivity (plus data at around 28c per Mb) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ragnar Beer" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 6:59 AM > Subject: ISDN > > > > Howdy everyone! > > > > This is my first day with FreeBSD and I just subscribed to a subset > > of the bazillions of freebsd mailing lists. From the first ten or so > > messages that I got from this list it seems to me that the first > > thing a FreeBSD newbie has to learn is the art of where exactly to > > post a question ;) > > > > Ok, here is my question: I'd like to get on the internet. So I wonder > > where I can find some information about how to set up ISDN. Is there > > a howto somewhere? > > > > Ragnar > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 15 5:14:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAAA837B4EC for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:14:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15986; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:14:29 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from roadrunner.apana.org.au(203.3.126.132), claiming to be "roadrunner" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdr15984; Thu Feb 15 23:14:27 2001 Message-ID: <00be01c09751$4b30ac00$847e03cb@apana.org.au> From: "Doug Young" To: "Haikal Saadh" , , "Ragnar Beer" References: <065201c092dc$4e60c8c0$847e03cb@apana.org.au> <00ac01c09750$0bd15560$0100a8c0@warhawk> Subject: Re: ISDN Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:14:53 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We must have proper legitimate IPs ... optus@home will not provide for these. Actually we probably own more C classes than Optus but their stupid acceptable use policy prohibits our type of use. Furthermore, the company has recently been in trouble with the telecommunications ombudsman over the "unlimited use" clause in its AUP. Like many other companies Optus used the word "unlimited" in order to gain business but was not prepared to allow users to exercise the right to what was advertized. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haikal Saadh" To: "Doug Young" ; ; "Ragnar Beer" Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:05 PM Subject: Re: ISDN > Why bother with ISDN? optus@home cable's just $60 a month...ADSL comes in > from 70 IIRC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Young" > To: ; "Ragnar Beer" > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 7:07 AM > Subject: Re: ISDN > > > > An off-topic question for you ......whats the going price for an ISDN > > connection > > in Germany ?? I'd get one immediately here but the crooks who own the only > > service provider in OZ capable of connecting ISDN demand $AU385 per month > > just for connectivity (plus data at around 28c per Mb) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ragnar Beer" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 6:59 AM > > Subject: ISDN > > > > > > > Howdy everyone! > > > > > > This is my first day with FreeBSD and I just subscribed to a subset > > > of the bazillions of freebsd mailing lists. From the first ten or so > > > messages that I got from this list it seems to me that the first > > > thing a FreeBSD newbie has to learn is the art of where exactly to > > > post a question ;) > > > > > > Ok, here is my question: I'd like to get on the internet. So I wonder > > > where I can find some information about how to set up ISDN. Is there > > > a howto somewhere? > > > > > > Ragnar > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 15 5:18:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B8037B401 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:18:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15994; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:18:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from roadrunner.apana.org.au(203.3.126.132), claiming to be "roadrunner" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdG15992; Thu Feb 15 23:18:01 2001 Message-ID: <00c201c09751$caf876c0$847e03cb@apana.org.au> From: "Doug Young" To: "Haikal Saadh" , , "Ragnar Beer" References: <065201c092dc$4e60c8c0$847e03cb@apana.org.au> <00ac01c09750$0bd15560$0100a8c0@warhawk> Subject: Re: ISDN - more Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:18:28 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Another significant point ..... optus@home is only available to 2 - 3% of Australians at present .... that figure will drop to zero over time as local authorities move the electricity cables underground. In a recent search, 3 out of 94 Brisbane members & 2 out of 116 Perth members had access to optus@home ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haikal Saadh" To: "Doug Young" ; ; "Ragnar Beer" Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:05 PM Subject: Re: ISDN > Why bother with ISDN? optus@home cable's just $60 a month...ADSL comes in > from 70 IIRC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Young" > To: ; "Ragnar Beer" > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 7:07 AM > Subject: Re: ISDN > > > > An off-topic question for you ......whats the going price for an ISDN > > connection > > in Germany ?? I'd get one immediately here but the crooks who own the only > > service provider in OZ capable of connecting ISDN demand $AU385 per month > > just for connectivity (plus data at around 28c per Mb) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ragnar Beer" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 6:59 AM > > Subject: ISDN > > > > > > > Howdy everyone! > > > > > > This is my first day with FreeBSD and I just subscribed to a subset > > > of the bazillions of freebsd mailing lists. From the first ten or so > > > messages that I got from this list it seems to me that the first > > > thing a FreeBSD newbie has to learn is the art of where exactly to > > > post a question ;) > > > > > > Ok, here is my question: I'd like to get on the internet. So I wonder > > > where I can find some information about how to set up ISDN. Is there > > > a howto somewhere? > > > > > > Ragnar > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 15 5:49:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D6A37B491 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:49:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA51993; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 00:17:21 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 00:17:17 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8l_Alexandre_Salim?= Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Link needs updating Message-ID: <20010214001715.P19976@welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8l_Alexandre_Salim?= , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010213125228.4503.qmail@web3504.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C20010213125228=2E4503=2Eqmail=40web3504=2Email=2Eyahoo?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=2Ecom=3E=3B_from_Mich=E8l_Alexandre_Salim_on_Tue=2C_Feb_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?13=2C_2001_at_12:52:28PM_+0000?= Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 12:52:28PM +0000, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote: > The welcome message sent to every new member of this > list links to www.freebsd.org/newbies.html - the > correct link is www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html. > > Could the list maintainer check this out? Thanks very much for noticing and mentioning it! That must be the intro file that majordomo sends when a subscription is completed. I'll organise a fix. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 15 6: 3:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bne004m.webcentral.com.au (bne004m.webcentral.com.au [202.139.235.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D4A137B4EC for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 31418 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 14:03:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warhawk) (203.147.160.62) by bne004m.webcentral.com.au with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 14:03:35 -0000 Message-ID: <019401c09758$9f775cd0$0100a8c0@warhawk> From: "Haikal Saadh" To: "David Johnson" , "Belfred I Antonio" Cc: References: <20010214172236.288B737B4EC@hub.freebsd.org> <3A8ACB14.BFF81594@acuson.com> Subject: Re: Questions, XFree86 and K Desktop Environment Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:06:47 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Johnson" To: "Belfred I Antonio" Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:14 AM Subject: Re: Questions, XFree86 and K Desktop Environment > Belfred I Antonio wrote: > > > I just installed FreeBSD 4.2 onto my system and i installed XFree86 3.3.6 and KDE 1.x. If i > will install XFree86 4.x do i need the XFree86 3.3.6 or v4.x can stand alone? Same as in if > i will install KDE 2 do i need to install also the KDE 1.x? > > I'm not sure about the full ramifications of XFree86-4, so you should > ask on -questions about that. But there is no need to keep kde-1.x > around if you're using kde-2. However, there are a few programs in ports > that still need kde-1 as a dependency. Look in the port Makefile before > installing any kde program to make sure that it's for kde-2 and not > kde-1. Hopefully these old dependencies will disappear soon. I've found kde2 unstable as.....crashes the minute it starts up. It does look nicer, though. This was an install I did about 2-3 months ago...don't know if things are any better now. ('twas not on my box) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 15 6:31:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web5410.mail.yahoo.com (web5410.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1F0537B684 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:31:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20010215143141.78449.qmail@web5410.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [38.185.109.27] by web5410.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:31:41 PST Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:31:41 -0800 (PST) From: Henry Ammons Reply-To: henry@ammons.net Subject: Re: Windows2000 to FreeBSD encouragement needed To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you for all of your input. With regard to my Windows 2000 vs. Linux experience: It was an interesting couple of months, but to be honest, Win2k w/ Exchange out-performed my Mandrake install with postfix. The hardware/connection was identical (i.e. same machine). Exchange's smtp was able to pass email on virtually instantly, whereas postfix (which was suppose to have less overhead than sendmail) would take about 10-15 seconds to process a message. Volume of mail (only 40-50 users) didn't affect performance, it just seemed to be stuck with the smtp delay. I very much appreciated the command line interface of Linux though, rather than all of Microsoft's poorly rendered icons (if they are going to habitually plagiarize others' work then they need to copy Apple's terrific graphic ability). I'm just simply tired of the MS game and need to move forward. It's too expensive. Again, thank you very much for your info--Henry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 15 6:46:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.scana.com (falcon.scana.com [161.156.101.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E395437B401 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by falcon.scana.com; id JAA28911; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:46:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from maildmis.scana.com(161.156.252.90) by falcon.scana.com via smap (V5.5) id xma028852; Thu, 15 Feb 01 09:45:54 -0500 Received: from msg21.scana.com [161.156.252.90] by MSG21.SCANA.COM [161.156.252.90] (CMSPraetor 4.1.3395) with ESMTP id 07373D15035011D5B09B0002A507E1C8 for plus 1 more; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:45:31 -0500 Received: by maildmis.scana.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1066T080>; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:45:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: "SILVER, MICHAEL A" To: "'freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG'" Cc: "'henry@ammons.net'" Subject: RE: Windows2000 to FreeBSD encouragement needed Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:45:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > able to pass email on virtually instantly, whereas > postfix (which was suppose to have less overhead than > sendmail) would take about 10-15 seconds to process a > message. Volume of mail (only 40-50 users) didn't > affect performance, it just seemed to be stuck with > the smtp delay. This is very interesting. I have also had a great deal of trouble with smtp delays. In my case it was either an ident and DNS lookup that was causing the delay. I am using qmail. If there was a massive knowledge base for FreeBSD and the ports, I think resolving these issues would be quite simple. Currently I have to search deja, the mailing list, google, etc to find what I need. Microsoft, regardless of what others say, has a very good knowledge base and would be a good example to follow. Anyone know of knowledge base web software? I would be willing to host it. I imagine it would not be hard to write, but I don't have the time. I already have a substantial list of 'spare time' projects. ...Michael... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 15 19:28:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (smtp013.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A91C37B503 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:28:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from 146-113-188-200.corp.rj.psinet.com.br (HELO blacksun) (200.188.113.146) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2001 03:28:11 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Reply-To: From: "Brunik Hurkky" To: Subject: Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:29:19 -0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org teste !!! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 15 20:12:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tpg.com.au (mac-56k-053.tpgi.com.au [203.29.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38BDF37B503 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:12:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=200102160902=" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: gregjame@tpg.com.au X-Mailer: 1F834D2A.3D662F08.fa0f717aa34fa7647a00c91f47cd9e71 Subject: That site for buying and selling businesses V Organization: Greg Message-Id: <20010216041221.38BDF37B503@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:12:21 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=200102160902= Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII Hey That site on the net for buying and selling businesses is http://bsab.com.au This is the one that Craig Simmons told us he sold his shop from. I've checked it out - it looks great - but I do see a problem for you in that nobody is going to pay you $950k for your business unless you move to NT. Every other place in Australia has your type of business for far less and making more money. ONLY KIDDING - Check it out it has all the information on buying and selling a Business in Australia and it has stacks of businesses for sale and people looking for businesses. Here is the link http://www.bsab.com.au/ I've put a ad up in wanted to buy today it's free Have a look at my ad click on this http://www.bsab.com.au/boardinfo.asp?IDnum=140 Hey don't send me your business I can't handle paying Johnnie 100k in tax each year like you and supporting your sister too. Give me a call after you look at this site greg --=200102160902=-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 15 20:12:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tpg.com.au (mac-56k-053.tpgi.com.au [203.29.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BFDEA37B698 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:12:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=200102160902=" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org From: gregjame@tpg.com.au X-Mailer: 29DC8335.12B2ADD7.d8f92758b19b5e8a35c1533f321d78f3 Subject: That site for buying and selling businesses V Organization: Greg Message-Id: <20010216041231.BFDEA37B698@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:12:31 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=200102160902= Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII Hey That site on the net for buying and selling businesses is http://bsab.com.au This is the one that Craig Simmons told us he sold his shop from. I've checked it out - it looks great - but I do see a problem for you in that nobody is going to pay you $950k for your business unless you move to NT. Every other place in Australia has your type of business for far less and making more money. ONLY KIDDING - Check it out it has all the information on buying and selling a Business in Australia and it has stacks of businesses for sale and people looking for businesses. Here is the link http://www.bsab.com.au/ I've put a ad up in wanted to buy today it's free Have a look at my ad click on this http://www.bsab.com.au/boardinfo.asp?IDnum=140 Hey don't send me your business I can't handle paying Johnnie 100k in tax each year like you and supporting your sister too. Give me a call after you look at this site greg --=200102160902=-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 15 20:49: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mtu.ru (ns.mtu.ru [195.34.32.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9595637B491 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:48:59 -0800 (PST) X-Recipient: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Received: from ppp100-84.dialup.mtu-net.ru (ppp100-84.dialup.mtu-net.ru [212.188.100.84]) by mtu.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E60736D for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 07:48:56 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ivanov-denisd@mtu-net.ru) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 07:44:12 +0300 From: "Denis D.I." X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.39) Educational Reply-To: "Denis D.I." X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18322.010216@mtu-net.ru> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe idd@inbox.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 16 12:54:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1out.umbc.edu (mx1out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C8937B401 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from irix2.gl.umbc.edu (gmiddl1@irix2.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.60.11]) by mx1out.umbc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03590 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:54:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:54:44 -0500 From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: Subject: test Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org test to make sure i can post G. Jason Middleton _______________________________________________________________________________ Announcement: The revolution will not be televised. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 16 14:56:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.tx.home.com (ha2.rdc2.tx.home.com [24.14.77.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF7337B503 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:56:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.com ([24.179.82.202]) by mail.rdc2.tx.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010216225617.MIFS8337.mail.rdc2.tx.home.com@home.com> for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:56:18 -0800 Message-ID: <3A8DB015.66D788AF@home.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:56:21 -0600 From: sound byte X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freeBSD.ORG Subject: reading from a CD-ROM? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am pretty sure my question has been answered before. I have been looking for quite some time but have not been able to find an answer. I have been able to install freebsd on my computer but have no clue as to how I can copy/read files from either my floppy or cd-rom drive. any help will be welcome! thanks imran To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 16 15:59:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.svr.pol.co.uk (mail4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED8937B401 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:59:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from modem-9.erellont.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.197.9] helo=jessikat.fsnet.co.uk) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14Tun1-00047L-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:59:51 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:58:07 +0000 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org From: Robin Becker Subject: Re: reading from a CD-ROM? References: <3A8DB015.66D788AF@home.com> In-Reply-To: <3A8DB015.66D788AF@home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <8fY3TEtAaFySF58ErPUfo9YLW3> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <3A8DB015.66D788AF@home.com>, sound byte writes >I am pretty sure my question has been answered before. I have been >looking for quite some time but have not been able to find an answer. > >I have been able to install freebsd on my computer but have no clue as >to how I can copy/read files from either my floppy or cd-rom drive. > >any help will be welcome! > >thanks > >imran > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > have you tried % mount /cdrom % ls /cdrom -- Robin Becker To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 17 0:38: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from shell.youareata.org (youareata.org [209.99.47.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AEC37B65D for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bsd-mail@localhost) by shell.youareata.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f1H6dnC04500 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:39:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bsd-mail) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:39:49 -0600 From: Michael Chavez To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe Message-ID: <20010217003949.B4488@youareata.org> Reply-To: Michael Chavez Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 17 4:18: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ratatosk.sveg.se.sykes.com (proxy.sveg.se.sykes.com [195.67.11.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EB337B491 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 04:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by RATATOSK.sveg.se.sykes.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <10TDR6LA>; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:17:45 +0100 Message-ID: <8F68F32EB034D311A4A700508B4417D704108A5C@RATATOSK.sveg.se.sykes.com> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jukka_Simil=E4?= To: 'Robin Becker' , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: reading from a CD-ROM? Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:17:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Once again, do not ask or answer questions in -newbies, it might cause you more trouble than you already have.. try -questions instead. to read files, mount /cdrom is definitely not enough. might wanna try >su *passwd* #mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom #ls /cdrom and if your cdrom device is not acd0, then just replace that with the correct device. you might want to look at "man mount" and "ls /dev/ | more" -lots of interesting information.. > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Becker [mailto:robin@reportlab.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 12:58 AM > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: reading from a CD-ROM? > > > In article <3A8DB015.66D788AF@home.com>, sound byte byte1@home.com> writes > >I am pretty sure my question has been answered before. I have been > >looking for quite some time but have not been able to find an answer. > > > >I have been able to install freebsd on my computer but have > no clue as > >to how I can copy/read files from either my floppy or cd-rom drive. > > > >any help will be welcome! > > > >thanks > > > >imran > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > have you tried > % mount /cdrom > % ls /cdrom > > -- > Robin Becker > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 17 5:35:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.a2000.nl (duck.a2000.nl [62.108.1.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A618A37B503 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 05:35:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from node10b74.a2000.nl ([24.132.11.116] helo=chello.nl) by smtp2.a2000.nl with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #4) id 14U7WH-0001Mg-00; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:35:25 +0100 Message-ID: <3A8E8CDF.7F46B45C@chello.nl> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:38:24 +0000 From: dev2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jukka =?iso-8859-1?Q?Simil=E4?= Cc: 'Robin Becker' , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: reading from a CD-ROM? References: <8F68F32EB034D311A4A700508B4417D704108A5C@RATATOSK.sveg.se.sykes.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Riiight, But what IS the purpose of -newbies .. other than asking stupid newbie questions ? Everybody used to be a newbie.. And if u feel agrevated by stupid newbie questions then u are no longer a newbie and have no business being in this group Devnull Jukka Similä wrote: > Once again, do not ask or answer questions in -newbies, it might > cause you more trouble than you already have.. > try -questions instead. > > to read files, mount /cdrom is definitely not enough. > might wanna try > >su > *passwd* > #mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom > #ls /cdrom > > and if your cdrom device is not acd0, then just replace that with > the correct device. > you might want to look at "man mount" and "ls /dev/ | more" > -lots of interesting information.. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robin Becker [mailto:robin@reportlab.com] > > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 12:58 AM > > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org > > Subject: Re: reading from a CD-ROM? > > > > > > In article <3A8DB015.66D788AF@home.com>, sound byte > byte1@home.com> writes > > >I am pretty sure my question has been answered before. I have been > > >looking for quite some time but have not been able to find an answer. > > > > > >I have been able to install freebsd on my computer but have > > no clue as > > >to how I can copy/read files from either my floppy or cd-rom drive. > > > > > >any help will be welcome! > > > > > >thanks > > > > > >imran > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > have you tried > > % mount /cdrom > > % ls /cdrom > > > > -- > > Robin Becker > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 17 12:20:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx3out.umbc.edu (mx3out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9F237B4EC; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 12:20:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from irix2.gl.umbc.edu (gmiddl1@irix2.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.60.11]) by mx3out.umbc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23738; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 15:20:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 15:20:33 -0500 From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: Cc: Subject: make clean Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org can someone tell me exactly what the command make clean does? Thanks in advance G. Jason Middleton G. Jason Middleton _______________________________________________________________________________ Announcement: The revolution will not be televised. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 17 17:48:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6CE37B4EC for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 17:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA71713 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 12:30:15 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 12:30:15 +1100 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200102170130.MAA71713@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 17 19:10:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1out.umbc.edu (mx1out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEAF37B4EC for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 19:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from twopimped (cc502667-b.catv1.md.home.com [24.18.90.21]) by mx1out.umbc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA21485 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 22:10:39 -0500 (EST) From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: Subject: making new groups Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 22:12:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org what is the easiest way to make a new group called user? giving them everything but SU privleges? Regards, G. Jason Middleton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 17 22:49:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mink.ecitele.com (mink.ecitele.com [147.234.1.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B473A37B401; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 22:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from olive.ecitele.com (ilsmtp04.ecitele.com [147.234.8.125]) by mink.ecitele.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA06757; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 08:47:13 +0200 (IST) From: Uri.Shenderovich@lightscapenet.com Subject: Supporting threads by gcc-2.95.2 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2b (Intl) 16 December 1999 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 08:48:13 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on ILSMTP04/ECI Telecom(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/18/2001 08:49:09 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi , I've recently installed FreeBSD(4.1) and was trying to compile something that requires posix threads supported.The 'configure' discovered that gcc doesn't support threads. Is it true and I have to get sources and recompile the gcc ? Or maybe I just , forgot to install something :( ? Thanks, Uri BTW The line at 'configure' script that is responsible for decision if gcc is thread aware was nm `gcc -print-libgcc-file-name`| grep pthread > /dev/null To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message