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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 25 2: 0: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.sunflower.com (smtp.sunflower.com [24.124.0.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A1637B67D for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 02:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from treznor@sunflower.com) Received: from treznor (dv016s59.lawrence.ks.us [24.124.59.16]) by smtp.sunflower.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA28658; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 03:58:07 -0600 Message-ID: <000401c09f11$680fcbe0$103b7c18@palisor.yi.org> From: "Tyler K McGeorge" To: , Cc: References: Subject: Re: toner supplies Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 03:56:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This does not belong on this list. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 2:57 AM Subject: toner supplies > PLEASE FORWARD TO THE PERSON > RESPONSIBLE FOR PURCHASING > YOUR LASER PRINTER SUPPLIES > > > **** VORTEX SUPPLIES **** > > -SPECIALS OF THE DAY ON LASER TONER SUPPLIES AT DISCOUNT PRICES-- > > LASER PRINTER TONER CARTRIDGES > COPIER AND FAX CARTRIDGES > > WE ARE -->THE<-- PLACE TO BUY YOUR TONER CARTRIDGES BECAUSE YOU > SAVE UP TO 30% FROM OFFICE DEPOT'S, QUILL'S OR OFFICE MAX'S EVERY DAY > LOW PRICES > > ORDER BY PHONE:1-888-288-9043 > ORDER BY FAX: 1-888-977-1577 > CUSTOMER SERVICE: 1-888-248-2015 > E-MAIL REMOVAL LINE: 1-888-248-4930 > > UNIVERSITY AND/OR SCHOOL PURCHASE ORDERS WELCOME. (NO CREDIT APPROVAL REQUIRED) > ALL OTHER PURCHASE ORDER REQUESTS REQUIRE CREDIT APPROVAL. > > PAY BY CHECK (C.O.D), CREDIT CARD OR PURCHASE ORDER (NET 30 DAYS). > > > IF YOUR ORDER IS BY CREDIT CARD PLEASE LEAVE YOUR CREDIT CARD # PLUS EXPIRATION DATE. > IF YOUR ORDER IS BY PURCHASE ORDER LEAVE YOUR SHIPPING/BILLING ADDRESSES AND YOUR P.O. NUMBER > NO SHIPPING CHARGES FOR ORDERS $49 OR OVER > ADD $4.75 FOR ORDERS UNDER $49. > C.O.D. ORDERS ADD $4.5 TO SHIPPING CHARGES. > > FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO REQUIRE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR COMPANY > INCUDING FEDERAL TAX ID NUMBER, CLOSEST SHIPPING OR CORPORATE ADDRESS IN THE > CONTINENTAL U.S. OR FOR CATALOG REQUESTS PLEASE CALL OUR CUSTOMER > SERVICE LINE 1-888-248-2015 > > OUR NEW , LASER PRINTER TONER CARTRIDGE, PRICES ARE AS FOLLOWS: > > (PLEASE ORDER BY PAGE NUMBER AND/OR ITEM NUMBER) > > HEWLETT PACKARD: (ON PAGE 2) > > ITEM #1 LASERJET SERIES 4L,4P (74A)------------------------$44 > ITEM #2 LASERJET SERIES 1100 (92A)-------------------------$44 > ITEM #3 LASERJET SERIES 2 (95A)-------------------------------$39 > ITEM #4 LASERJET SERIES 2P (75A)-----------------------------$54 > ITEM #5 LASERJET SERIES 5P,6P,5MP, 6MP (3903A)--$44 > ITEM #6 LASERJET SERIES 5SI, 5000 (29A)------------------$95 > ITEM #7 LASERJET SERIES 2100 (96A)-------------------------$74 > ITEM #8 LASERJET SERIES 8100 (82X)-----------------------$145 > ITEM #9 LASERJET SERIES 5L/6L (3906A0------------------$35 > ITEM #10 LASERJET SERIES 4V-------------------------------------$95 > ITEM #11 LASERJET SERIES 4000 (27X)-------------------------$72 > ITEM #12 LASERJET SERIES 3SI/4SI (91A)--------------------$54 > ITEM #13 LASERJET SERIES 4, 4M, 5,5M-----------------------$49 > > HEWLETT PACKARD FAX (ON PAGE 2) > > ITEM #14 LASERFAX 500, 700 (FX1)----------$49 > ITEM #15 LASERFAX 5000,7000 (FX2)------$54 > ITEM #16 LASERFAX (FX3)------------------------$59 > ITEM #17 LASERFAX (FX4)------------------------$54 > > LEXMARK/IBM (ON PAGE 3) > > OPTRA 4019, 4029 HIGH YIELD---------------$89 > OPTRA R, 4039, 4049 HIGH YIELD---------$105 > OPTRA E----------------------------------------------------$59 > OPTRA N--------------------------------------------------$115 > OPTRA S--------------------------------------------------$165 > - > EPSON (ON PAGE 4) > > ACTION LASER 7000,7500,8000,9000-------$105 > ACTION LASER 1000,1500-------------------------$105 > > CANON PRINTERS (ON PAGE 5) > > PLEASE CALL FOR MODELS AND UPDATED PRICES > FOR CANON PRINTER CARTRIDGES > > PANASONIC (0N PAGE 7) > > NEC SERIES 2 MODELS 90 AND 95----------$105 > > APPLE (0N PAGE 8) > > LASER WRITER PRO 600 or 16/600------------$49 > LASER WRITER SELECT 300,320,360---------$74 > LASER WRITER 300 AND 320----------------------$54 > LASER WRITER NT, 2NT------------------------------$54 > LASER WRITER 12/640--------------------------------$79 > > > > CANON FAX (ON PAGE 9) > > LASERCLASS 4000 (FX3)---------------------------$59 > LASERCLASS 5000,6000,7000 (FX2)---------$54 > LASERFAX 5000,7000 (FX2)----------------------$54 > LASERFAX 8500,9000 (FX4)----------------------$54 > > > CANON COPIERS (PAGE 10) > > PC 3, 6RE, 7 AND 11 (A30)---------------------$69 > PC 300,320,700,720 and 760 (E-40)--------$89 > > IF YOUR CARTRIDGE IS NOT LISTED CALL CUSTOMER SERVICE AT 1-888-248-2015 > > 90 DAY UNLIMITED WARRANTY INCLUDED ON ALL PRODUCTS. > > ALL TRADEMARKS AND BRAND NAMES LISTED ABOVE ARE PROPERTY OF THE > RESPECTIVE HOLDERS AND USED FOR DESCRIPTIVE PURPOSES ONLY. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 25 10:35:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web1101.mail.yahoo.com (web1101.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9FA737B491 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:35:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tperlin@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 10097 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Feb 2001 18:35:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20010225183531.10096.qmail@web1101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.42.0.205] by web1101.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:35:31 PST Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:35:31 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Erlin Subject: Re: Screen Resolution in KDE (FreeBSD) To: Godfrey Anonical Cc: newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1077EA82B488D31193FB0008C724A284AC721F@EXCHANGE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You'll probably get harassed for not asking this question on -questions. What version of FreeBSD? What version of XF86? What kind of video card? I found that using a Diamond Stealth III I couldn't get XF86 3.3.6 (or KDE) to run with the proper screen res. I upgrade to the latest release of XF86 and now it works. --Tim --- Godfrey Anonical wrote: > Hello, I just recenly installed freebsd and am using > KDE. The problem is the > output screen on my monitor is only displaying a > portion of the entire > desktop. I have to scroll down just to see the panel > on the bottom of the > screen (default). Did I do something wrong during > the Xfree86 configuration? > Please advise. Thank you > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 25 17:28: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f242.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEB737B684 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 17:28:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsdblood@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 17:28:01 -0800 Received: from 203.121.16.69 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:28:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.121.16.69] From: "BSD Blood" To: GAno@NaturalWonders.COM, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Screen Resolution in KDE (FreeBSD) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:28:01 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2001 01:28:01.0956 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C0A4640:01C09F93] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try "Ctrl + Alt + +" or "Ctrl + Alt + -" to change the resolution. >From: Godfrey Anonical >To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" >Subject: Screen Resolution in KDE (FreeBSD) >Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 11:22:07 -0800 > >Hello, I just recenly installed freebsd and am using KDE. The problem is >the >output screen on my monitor is only displaying a portion of the entire >desktop. I have to scroll down just to see the panel on the bottom of the >screen (default). Did I do something wrong during the Xfree86 >configuration? >Please advise. Thank you > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 25 19:11: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tierzero.apana.org.au (apana.internode.on.net [150.101.94.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D787C37B67D for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:10:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bastill@sa.apana.org.au) Received: from PhD_1.testname.com.au (bra@dialup-9.pasa.apana.org.au [203.14.158.138]) by tierzero.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29212 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:40:54 +1030 (CST) From: Brian Astill Reply-To: bastill@sa.apana.org.au To: "newbies" Subject: install from floppy Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:12:32 +1030 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0102261151010E.00803@PhD_1.testname.com.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you have a CD-absent laptop and want to install from floppy disk (eg using Doug Young's super "Pedantic FreeBSD" guide - DON'T! Doug's guide is excellent, but the person who wrote the floppy installation routine is another matter. That clown should have been subject to God's error handling and never been born. Why do I say this? Installing from floppy is no small matter. You are looking at re-formatting 25 DOS disks, then preparing them for use (which also involves copying six files at a time to each of 23 disks), then using the first two to boot to the FreeBSD sysinstall and the remaining 23 to copy six files at a time onto your new system. I found that it took roughly 10 minutes per disk to do that final copying. Overall time you should allow - five hours! I got almost to the end of this process but disk 21 of the 23 had some fault and sysinstall could not read one of the files on that disk. "Would I like to try again" said the error message. Of course I would - so the $##@*&% idiot system started again - from disk 1. "Thanks", I said (among other things). Obviously noone would want to go through the four-hour process of inserting 23 disks at 10-minute intervals, knowing that the slightest error at any point would result in a compulsory re-start. Even a newbie knows that the error handling routine should (a) preferably produce a more specific message (eg "cannot read file bin.eu" would be helpful) and (b) allow recovery from the point of the error (eg "please correct this disk and reinsert when ready"). So, like I said, if you want to install from floppy disks - DON'T. Of course, if you can get hold of the source and can insert a SENSIBLE error-handling routine, that would be NICE! I am going to have a go at installing using PLIP. Will let you know how that goes. -- Regards, Brian ******************************************************** Dr Brian Astill Visiting Research Fellow Flinders University Institute of International Education Bus 8201 3480 FAX 8449 9199 bastill@sa.apana.org.au ******************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 25 19:21: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2976A37B491 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:20:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03993; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:20:55 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from roadrunner.apana.org.au(203.3.126.132), claiming to be "roadrunner" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdmR3990; Mon Feb 26 13:20:49 2001 Message-ID: <02b201c09fa3$3b39c020$847e03cb@apana.org.au> From: "Doug Young" To: , "newbies" References: <0102261151010E.00803@PhD_1.testname.com.au> Subject: Re: install from floppy Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:21:21 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well yes installing from floppies IS troublesome at times, but I had to do it with a bunch of prehistoric 386 Wangs that wouldn't look at a CD-ROM. Brian is totally correct when he says floppies cark it at a critical moment, however if you have (like I did at the time) such a pile of systemslying around that a kangaroo dog couldn't jump over its not particularly difficult to kick one into life to create replacement bin floppies on the fly :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Astill" To: "newbies" Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 10:42 AM Subject: install from floppy > If you have a CD-absent laptop and want to install from floppy disk (eg using > Doug Young's super "Pedantic FreeBSD" guide - DON'T! > Doug's guide is excellent, but the person who wrote the floppy installation > routine is another matter. That clown should have been subject to God's error > handling and never been born. > Why do I say this? > > Installing from floppy is no small matter. You are looking at re-formatting 25 > DOS disks, then preparing them for use (which also involves copying six files > at a time to each of 23 disks), then using the first two to boot to the FreeBSD > sysinstall and the remaining 23 to copy six files at a time onto your new > system. I found that it took roughly 10 minutes per disk to do that final > copying. > Overall time you should allow - five hours! > I got almost to the end of this process but disk 21 of the 23 had some fault > and sysinstall could not read one of the files on that disk. > "Would I like to try again" said the error message. Of course I would - so the > $##@*&% idiot system started again - from disk 1. "Thanks", I said (among > other things). > Obviously noone would want to go through the four-hour process of inserting 23 > disks at 10-minute intervals, knowing that the slightest error at any point > would result in a compulsory re-start. > Even a newbie knows that the error handling routine should (a) preferably > produce a more specific message (eg "cannot read file bin.eu" would be helpful) > and (b) allow recovery from the point of the error (eg "please correct this > disk and reinsert when ready"). > > So, like I said, if you want to install from floppy disks - DON'T. > Of course, if you can get hold of the source and can insert a SENSIBLE > error-handling routine, that would be NICE! > > I am going to have a go at installing using PLIP. Will let you know how that > goes. > > -- > Regards, > Brian > > ******************************************************** > Dr Brian Astill Visiting Research Fellow > Flinders University Institute of International Education > Bus 8201 3480 FAX 8449 9199 > bastill@sa.apana.org.au > ******************************************************** > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 25 19:39:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A993937B491 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:39:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mlduke@concentric.net) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id WAA27980; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:39:10 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts005d09.mer-id.concentric.net (ts005d09.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.213]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id WAA13500; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:39:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:36:56 -0700 (MST) From: ML Duke To: Brian Astill Cc: newbies Subject: Re: install from floppy In-Reply-To: <0102261151010E.00803@PhD_1.testname.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well .... as I recall, the documentation, and Greg's book, advise a floppy install for those and only those who like to do things the hard way. Think of how much happier you will be with a different approach [Grin]. ML Duke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 26 2:51: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from vimutti.welearn.com.au (vimutti.welearn.com.au [203.35.200.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5196237B503; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 02:50:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@vimutti.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by vimutti.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA17270; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:52:20 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:52:20 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hello from russia! Message-ID: <20010226215220.A17239@welearn.com.au> References: <0102211335520A.00803@PhD_1.testname.com.au> <20010221033146.C46F737B401@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010221033146.C46F737B401@hub.freebsd.org>; from Jonathan M. Bresler on Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 07:31:46PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 07:31:46PM -0800, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > > > >> Support questions should be sent to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > >> (NOT to the newbies list please) > > > > This is another problem. What is a "support question"? That's proved not as hard to work out as you might think. > > "Technical questions" might be better. To us, yes. Use that term as in "all technical questions to freebsd-questions" and all newbies will understand perfectly. But we can't, because the non-newbies speak a different language. I wish we could. > "technical questions" sounds good...those should be sent to > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org. i'll add that in the info file. NOOOO! Jonathan, you and your clever type just don't understand what "technical" conveys to newbies :-) You're way up there and your perspective on technicality is nothing like ours. You lot have your own stickler-precise meaning, and if you use it like that here you will _communicate_ something entirely different. The opposite, in fact. What you mean, I think, is that highly complex (to us) technical developer-kernel-guru type stuff goes to freebsd-hackers. You say "technical" and we read "like rebooting computers, setting VCRs, microwave ovens, stuff like that". To most newbies, and to me, any question like "how do I change my computer's name" or "can I use a winmodem?" is highly technical! If you don't believe me, go to your local grocery store, ask the person serving if they regard that as a "technical question" or not. I dare ya :-) No use telling me my use of the term is wrong, Jonathan (and Greg too, I can feel your linguistic perfection rising, put it down :-)), the only thing that really matters is what you communicate. Unfortunately you can't get inside our brains and change them before you speak. People come from non-technical backgrounds, end up in -newbies feeling it's all very technical, and we haven't got time to reteach English. Some of us spend all day advising callers to use the _left_ mouse button and make sure the monitor is turned on, and it's called "technical support". I'd agree, that's not very technical, but that doesn't help us to correct the language of newcomers before they blunder. One of the other contributing factors to misunderstanding -newbies has been the instruction that technical questions (you meaning deep magic stuff) should not be sent to -questions (which is much more technical than my microwave, therefore a technical list, not a social one). To quote: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send `how to'' questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Huh??? The first sentence would have been enough. The second merely confuses. Maybe even "This is the mailing list for how-to questions about FreeBSD." would keep everyone happy. Newbies who do do absolutely the right thing will read the second sentence, and say um, OK, I'd better send my technical questions to -newbies because they're not allowed on -questions. To some of us that's what it says, even though it is "wrong". Can you understand how misleading that -questions statement is to newbies? If you can't, then you must understand why we need a space where newbies can at least understand each other :-) I've argued blue in the face over this word for three years, and it seems that nobody is sufficiently interested in getting the right message across to newbies, to back down and change the ambiguous wording of the -questions charter. They just can't see that other perspectives exist, we're all too far apart here. Indeed, if the "technical" ambiguity had not existed, we might not have had such a pressing need for -newbies. If we cannot communicate with visitors and new arrivals in terms they can correctly interpret, then it looks like we don't want to communicate with them at all. I don't think that's the case. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 26 9:39:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail04.edsamail.com.ph (mail04.edsamail.com.ph [210.16.71.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E72E37B491 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:39:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from belfred@edsamail.com.ph) Received: (qmail 15379 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2001 17:44:05 -0000 Received: from mail03.edsamail.com.ph (HELO edsamail.com.ph) (210.16.71.8) by mail04.edsamail.com.ph with SMTP; 26 Feb 2001 17:44:05 -0000 X-Mailer: Edsamail 1.31 (Build 1024) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:46:44 +0800 From: "Belfred I Antonio" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: xdm Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20010226173946.1E72E37B491@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm running FreeBSD 4.2. any one who can help me to configure. everytime i start mi machine i end up having a text only log on screen after the kernel has loaded. I want to configure it to give me my xdm log on screen the one with a GUI and later change it to even kdm or gdm. thanks. Brian Philippines __________________________________ www.edsamail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 26 11:17:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C25737B401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:17:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA7130; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:22:07 -0800 Message-ID: <3A9AABC2.24FCC6B5@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:17:22 -0800 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Godfrey Anonical Cc: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Screen Resolution in KDE (FreeBSD) References: <1077EA82B488D31193FB0008C724A284AC721F@EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Godfrey Anonical wrote: > > Hello, I just recenly installed freebsd and am using KDE. The problem is the > output screen on my monitor is only displaying a portion of the entire > desktop. I have to scroll down just to see the panel on the bottom of the > screen (default). Did I do something wrong during the Xfree86 configuration? > Please advise. Thank you This is what is known as a "virtual desktop". If you used the xf86config command to setup X, then this is what you get by default. The XF86Setup command doesn't give you this. Take a look at the X11 section in the FreeBSD Handbook for ways to fix this. It involves editing the XF86Config file. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 26 12:27:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF1B37B503 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:27:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA2713; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:32:00 -0800 Message-ID: <3A9ABC23.7E953F76@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:27:15 -0800 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Belfred I Antonio Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xdm References: <20010226173946.1E72E37B491@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Belfred I Antonio wrote: > > I'm running FreeBSD 4.2. any one who can help me to configure. everytime i start mi machine i end up having a text only log on screen after the kernel has loaded. I want to configure it to give me my xdm log on screen the one with a GUI and later change it to even kdm or gdm. thanks. Setting up xdm is a bit more difficult under FreeBSD than in Linux. The FreeBSD has a discussion of it. Even after that you might need to edit the files in the xdm directory. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 26 15:48:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from egotistic.aego.net (egotistic.aego.net [198.77.82.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471E237B401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:48:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hcrump@egotistic.aego.net) Received: from localhost (hcrump@localhost) by egotistic.aego.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1QNlj509460; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:47:46 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:47:45 -0800 (PST) From: Horace Crump To: Belfred I Antonio Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xdm In-Reply-To: <20010226173946.1E72E37B491@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brian, Try adding xdm to the /etc/ttys file: ttyv8 "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure Horace R. Crump III On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Belfred I Antonio wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 4.2. any one who can help me to configure. everytime i start mi machine i end up having a text only log on screen after the kernel has loaded. I want to configure it to give me my xdm log on screen the one with a GUI and later change it to even kdm or gdm. thanks. > > Brian > Philippines > > > __________________________________ > www.edsamail.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 27 7:22:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us (nths-exchange.nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us [209.232.116.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F4237B71A for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:22:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from CBurdick@nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us) Subject: Problem with screen size in X To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.3 March 21, 2000 Message-ID: From: CBurdick@nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:24:42 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on THSServer0/NAPATH(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 02/27/2001 07:24:43 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The first time I ran xf86config I chose to have no virtual screen and run it in 1024x768 resolution, when I went into X the desktop was so large that I had to move the mouse around the edges to get around the desktop. I re-configured X and did the same thing by turning the virtual screen off, but the desktop is still large. I am running an ATI Xpert 98 with a MACH_64 server, anyone have ideas? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 27 11:59: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from monterosa.urbanet.ch (monterosa.urbanet.ch [195.202.193.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B390737B71A for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:59:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonathan.maim@urbanet.ch) Received: (qmail 2673 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2001 19:58:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jack) (195.202.202.194) by monterosa.urbanet.ch with SMTP; 27 Feb 2001 19:58:55 -0000 Message-ID: <006d01c0a100$3ff3ad20$c2cacac3@jack> From: "Jonathan MAIM" To: References: <20010226173946.1E72E37B491@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Upgrading an installed port Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:00:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! I'm very new to FreeBSD, i have a question about ports. How can i upgrade an installed port ? For example i have installed Bluefish 0.5 (make install in /usr/ports/www/bluefish/), but i would like to upgrade to 0.6. Thanks. Jonathan Switzerland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 27 16:58:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f211.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3500B37B718 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:58:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsdblood@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:58:33 -0800 Received: from 203.121.16.72 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:58:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.121.16.72] From: "BSD Blood" To: CBurdick@nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with screen size in X Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:58:33 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2001 00:58:33.0994 (UTC) FILETIME=[93142EA0:01C0A121] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is the second time I'm saying this for this week... Try "ctrl + alt + +" and/or "ctrl + alt + -" to adjust the resolution. >From: CBurdick@nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us >To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Problem with screen size in X >Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:24:42 -0800 > > >The first time I ran xf86config I chose to have no virtual screen and run >it in 1024x768 resolution, when I went into X the desktop was so large that >I had to move the mouse around the edges to get around the desktop. I >re-configured X and did the same thing by turning the virtual screen off, >but the desktop is still large. I am running an ATI Xpert 98 with a MACH_64 >server, anyone have ideas? > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 27 20:55: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tierzero.apana.org.au (apana.internode.on.net [150.101.94.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880F537B71D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:54:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bastill@sa.apana.org.au) Received: from PhD_1.testname.com.au (bra@dialup-9.pasa.apana.org.au [203.14.158.138]) by tierzero.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21614; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:24:55 +1030 (CST) From: Brian Astill Reply-To: bastill@sa.apana.org.au To: CBurdick@nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with screen size in X Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:19:13 +1030 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01022815225007.12912@PhD_1.testname.com.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, CBurdick@nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us wrote: > The first time I ran xf86config I chose to have no virtual screen and run > it in 1024x768 resolution, when I went into X the desktop was so large that > I had to move the mouse around the edges to get around the desktop. I > re-configured X and did the same thing by turning the virtual screen off, > but the desktop is still large. I am running an ATI Xpert 98 with a MACH_64 > server, anyone have ideas? Is this a technical question :-) The most likely SIMPLE explanation is that your monitor needs adjusting. Just move the horizontal and vertical sizes to taste. My guess is that you have a good display with A.N.Other's OS. The display position on the screen and it's size WILL change from OS to OS, and NO! I don't know why. -- Regards, Brian ******************************************************** Dr Brian Astill Visiting Research Fellow Flinders University Institute of International Education Bus 8201 3480 FAX 8449 9199 bastill@sa.apana.org.au ******************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 27 20:58:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tierzero.apana.org.au (apana.internode.on.net [150.101.94.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D46637B71D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:58:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bastill@sa.apana.org.au) Received: from PhD_1.testname.com.au (bra@dialup-9.pasa.apana.org.au [203.14.158.138]) by tierzero.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21647; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:28:41 +1030 (CST) From: Brian Astill Reply-To: bastill@sa.apana.org.au To: "Doug Young" , "newbies" Subject: Re: install from floppy Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:23:02 +1030 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain References: <0102261151010E.00803@PhD_1.testname.com.au> <02b201c09fa3$3b39c020$847e03cb@apana.org.au> In-Reply-To: <02b201c09fa3$3b39c020$847e03cb@apana.org.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01022815263608.12912@PhD_1.testname.com.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Doug Young wrote: > Well yes installing from floppies IS troublesome at times, but I had to do > it with a bunch of prehistoric 386 Wangs that wouldn't look at a CD-ROM. > > Brian is totally correct when he says floppies cark it at a critical moment, > however if you have (like I did at the time) such a pile of systemslying > around that a kangaroo dog couldn't jump over its not particularly difficult > to kick one into life to create replacement bin floppies on the fly :) Actually Doug, it was because I couldn't do what you say you did (make a replacement floppy and offer it to the install program and continue) that made me so cross. I didn't think "try again" should mean "start over from the beginning"! -- Regards, Brian ******************************************************** Dr Brian Astill Visiting Research Fellow Flinders University Institute of International Education Bus 8201 3480 FAX 8449 9199 bastill@sa.apana.org.au ******************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 27 21:22: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3C437B71F for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:22:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07337; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:21:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from roadrunner.apana.org.au(203.3.126.132), claiming to be "roadrunner" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdEQ7335; Wed Feb 28 15:21:48 2001 Message-ID: <02b801c0a146$76345e20$847e03cb@apana.org.au> From: "Doug Young" To: , "newbies" References: <0102261151010E.00803@PhD_1.testname.com.au> <02b201c09fa3$3b39c020$847e03cb@apana.org.au> <01022815263608.12912@PhD_1.testname.com.au> Subject: Re: install from floppy Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:22:34 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Actually Doug, it was because I couldn't do what you say you did (make a > replacement floppy and offer it to the install program and continue) that made > me so cross. > I didn't think "try again" should mean "start over from the beginning"! yeah .... it does give one a case of the "irrits" when that happens. I have had it happen but thankfully not very often ....95% of the time when I get a deceased floppy I just whack in another one with the same files & voila !!!. I did mess around with local FTP installs a while back but didn't get anywhere (like all things unix its undoubtedly simple but not well explained) Maybe I could get it to work now but why bother when I have a permanent connection ?? The regular CD install is definitely the easiest if you have a good CD (some of the Tesla ones are trouble), & FTP from someplace else works fine as long as you have a reasonable permanent connection. (ie preferably not relying on Tel$tra) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 28 8:30:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web5410.mail.yahoo.com (web5410.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5B2937B71A for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:30:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from henryammons@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010228163049.34696.qmail@web5410.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.48.23.146] by web5410.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:30:49 PST Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:30:49 -0800 (PST) From: Henry Ammons Reply-To: henryammons@yahoo.com Subject: FreeBSD Server weekend To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good Day. I am preparing to switch my personal web/email server over to FreeBSD (from W2K/Exchg) this weekend and had some quick (maybe political) questions that might help me to accomplish this exciting task. I have topically read a couple books and spent some time with the handbook and other online resources for the last several weeks in preparation for the build. I have also pre-built an extra pc as practice. My questions boil down to recommendations regarding what I should initially load to get the server up and running without overloading it with lots of extras (as my brief work with Mandrake demonstrated). The server is connected to the Internet via a DSL static ip connection and I initially want to provide the following services (no X): Web, Secure Telnet, Email, Secure FTP, and network software (NAT, firewall, proxy) I believe I will run qmail as my mail server, and Apache as the web server. Is there a list of software/binaries that you would recommend that provides a good balance between loading everything and a minimalist approach? Also, do you recommend the Novice installation from the sysinstall program? And lastly, what servers do you recommend for each service? I tried postfix in an earlier life (Linux), but kind of prefer qmail based only on what others have said (no personal experience). I sincerely appreciate your assistance and experience and look forward to the world of FreeBSD full-time, Thank you, Henry henryammons@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 28 9:31: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDA137B71A for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:31:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vcardona@home.com) Received: from marx.marvic.chum ([24.17.229.11]) by femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010228173106.FCWG29411.femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com@marx.marvic.chum> for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:31:06 -0800 Received: (from vcardona@localhost) by marx.marvic.chum (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) id f1SHVqZ17217 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:31:52 -0600 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:31:51 -0600 From: "Victor R. Cardona" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Server weekend Message-ID: <20010228113151.B17165@marx.marvic.chum> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010228163049.34696.qmail@web5410.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: <20010228163049.34696.qmail@web5410.mail.yahoo.com>; from henryammons@yahoo.com on Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 08:30:49AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 08:30:49AM -0800, Henry Ammons wrote: > Is there a list of software/binaries that you would > recommend that provides a good balance between loading > everything and a minimalist approach? Also, do you > recommend the Novice installation from the sysinstall > program? > > And lastly, what servers do you recommend for each > service? I tried postfix in an earlier life (Linux), > but kind of prefer qmail based only on what others > have said (no personal experience). Here are my recommendations for servers: Apache - Web server, best choice on FreeBSD OpenSSH - Secure telent-like server, included in base install OpenSSH - secure ftpd, providesa secure ftp server, also in base system IFilter - firewall with IPNAT for NATting connections. The novice install will work fine. -V -- Victor R. Cardona vcardona@home.com "Behold the keyboard of Kahless, the greatest Klingon code warrior that ever lived!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 28 11:14:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bastion.ppt.com (bastion.ppt.com [204.89.211.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E047837B719 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:14:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gre@mobilesys.com) Received: from firewall.ppt.com (fw.ppt.com [206.220.97.2]) by bastion.ppt.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA22201 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from gold.ppt.com (gold.ppt.com [198.102.200.44]) by firewall.ppt.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA01280 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from firewall2.ppt.com (firewall2.ppt.com [198.102.200.36]) by gold.ppt.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA05551 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from amber.mobilesys.com (amber.mobilesys.com [192.168.4.3]) by firewall2.ppt.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28729 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:14:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from exchange.mobilesys.com (exchange.mobilesys.com [192.168.4.32]) by amber.mobilesys.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07418 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mobilesys.com (amber.mobilesys.com [192.168.4.3]) by exchange.mobilesys.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id F5ACKAHK; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:14:09 -0800 Message-ID: <3A9D4E1B.4CF5FAD0@mobilesys.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:14:35 -0800 From: Gloria Rosario Erana X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/785) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: automount Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Having problem setting up amd for our freebsd system. I've been trying to create amd.conf that would work with our NFS automount. I would like to translate our auto.master such that amd would work same way with solaris and HP systems. Our NFS/NIS server is on HP. Here's our auto.home /net -hosts -nosuid,soft # # ********** SHARED FILE SYSTEMS *************** /- auto.direct # # ********** END-USER FILE SYSTEMS *************** /home/export /etc/auto_homeexport auto.direct map ----------------- /common1 amber:/export/share/common1 /temparea amber:/export/share/temparea /source0 amber:/export/share/source0 /source1 amber:/export/share/source1 /cs amber:/export/share/cs /eng amber:/export/share/eng /export/share/mx amber:/export/share/mx /home/www amber:/home/www /home/share amber:/home/share /home/mobile amber:/home/mobile /home/build amber:/home/build /home/users amber:/home/users /temparea2 amber:/export/share/temparea2 /ddts1 amber:/export/share/ddts1 auto_homeexport ---------------- * amber:/home/export/& Can someone help me please. I really appreciate your help. Thanks. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Gloria Rosario Erana mailto:gre@mobilesys.com MobileSys, Inc. http://www.mobilesys.com 301A East Evelyn Avenue voice: +1(650)623-3785 Mountain View, California 94041-1530 USA fax: +1(650)623-3799 -------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 28 13: 2: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (dhcp183.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECB937B719 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:01:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f1SL2Yv18576; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:02:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:02:34 -0500 From: Greg Lehey To: CBurdick@nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problem with screen size in X Message-ID: <20010228160234.F18062@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from CBurdick@nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us on Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 07:24:42AM -0800 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 27 February 2001 at 7:24:42 -0800, CBurdick@nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us wrote: > > The first time I ran xf86config I chose to have no virtual screen and run > it in 1024x768 resolution, when I went into X the desktop was so large that > I had to move the mouse around the edges to get around the desktop. I > re-configured X and did the same thing by turning the virtual screen off, > but the desktop is still large. I am running an ATI Xpert 98 with a MACH_64 > server, anyone have ideas? How about asking this question on FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org? 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 1 5:45:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailout0.de.colt.net (mailout0.DE.COLT.NET [212.121.128.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2242C37B719 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 05:45:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Michael.Kirchner@colt.de) Received: (qmail 28419 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 13:45:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO colt-fw.colt.de) (212.121.129.42) by mailout0.de.colt.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 2001 13:45:07 -0000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by colt-fw.colt.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA23692 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:32:47 +0100 X-Virus-check: Mail has been virus-checked by mail-scanner runing on SuSE Linux. Scanner is based on amavis Received: from internalmail.colt.de(10.49.2.99), claiming to be "fraexc05.colt.de" via SMTP by colt-fw.colt.de, id smtpda23342; Thu Mar 1 14:32:35 2001 Received: by fraexc05.colt.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:30:01 +0100 Message-ID: <9D8C8C8E773CD411B24E00D0B73E48A9C83530@fraexc04.colt.de> From: "Kirchner, Michael" To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: unsubscribe Michael.Kirchner@colt.de Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:32:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe Michael.Kirchner@colt.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 1 9:52: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.de [213.165.64.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1DD737B71A for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:52:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from M.Kirchner@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 13139 invoked by uid 0); 1 Mar 2001 17:52:03 -0000 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:52:03 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Kirchner To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: unsubscribe freebsd-newbies X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000711545@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [212.121.128.4] Message-ID: <4918.983469123@www24.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-newbies -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 1 10: 8:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f55.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD5037B71A for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:08:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:08:41 -0800 Received: from 208.7.67.84 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 18:08:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.7.67.84] Reply-To: marwan@q8internet.net From: "Dead Line" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: login.conf class not working why:/ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 18:08:41 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2001 18:08:41.0560 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5AC0D80:01C0A27A] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I'm on FreeBSD 4.2 Release, I would like to limit the users to use no more than 2 procces. When i took a look at login.conf I have found a class called default:\ so i created a class called basic1:\ Its a copy of default adding to it the line :maxproc=4:\ Now when i add a user I do the class for the user basic1 But, the user still can use as many as process he want. Why ? how i can make the basic1 class active ? Take a note that i Did cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf after i have modified login.conf Any help would be appreciate it Thank you Marwan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 1 23: 6:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from valley.new.co.za (valley.new.co.za [196.25.18.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7E037B71B for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:06:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from info@exploit.za.net) Received: from snow (snow.new.co.za [196.25.18.131]) by valley.new.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA21000 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:31:35 -0200 Message-ID: <083c01c0a2e7$2129b360$831219c4@new.co.za> From: "Wayne" To: Subject: unsubscribe freebsd-newbies Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:05:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-newbies To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 2 1: 3:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kvgnet.nl (server.kvgnet.nl [195.61.106.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC2D37B719 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 01:03:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from e.cozijnsen@kvgnet.nl) Received: from gatekeeper ([192.168.101.254]) by mail.kvgnet.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA5AEB for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:59:40 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01c0a2f7$c6748240$2d86200a@NLZZ103030> From: "Ernst Cozijnsen" To: Subject: little problem with a network card Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:50:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0A2FE.3ACF2220" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0A2FE.3ACF2220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys, I,ve got a little problem configuring my network card under Freebsd 4.2 = stable on mij laptop Thinkpad 600x. i tried 2 different cards but they = don't seem to work the cards are a 3com 3c589c and a IBM Etherjet 10/100 = PCMCIA card, i know that the 3com is supported by the kernel and the IBM = i'm not sure of. Sofar i can see i configed my kernel the right way but = the cards ar e not reconized, if i eject the card i ger a message that a = card is ejected from slot0. Can u give me a hint how i can config my cards rigtht?? because without = a network card u almost can't do anything. Can u also tell me where i can find a list with the correct list of = device entry's for my hardware (beside the LINT sample kernel). Hope to hear u soon. Ernst Cozijnsen =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0A2FE.3ACF2220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Guys,
 
I,ve got a little problem configuring = my network=20 card under Freebsd 4.2 stable on mij laptop Thinkpad 600x. i tried 2 = different=20 cards but they don't seem to work the cards are a 3com 3c589c and a IBM = Etherjet=20 10/100 PCMCIA card, i know that the 3com is supported by the kernel and = the IBM=20 i'm not sure of. Sofar i can see i configed my  kernel the right = way but=20 the cards ar e not reconized, if i eject the card i ger a message that a = card is=20 ejected from slot0.
Can u give me a hint how i can = config my cards=20 rigtht?? because without a network card u almost can't do=20 anything.
Can u also tell me where i can = find a list=20 with the correct list of device entry's for my hardware (beside the = LINT=20 sample kernel).
 
Hope to hear u soon.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0A2FE.3ACF2220-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 2 2:17: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate3.cinetic.de (mailgate3.cinetic.de [212.227.116.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0817E37B718; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:16:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from FMulthaup@web.de) Received: from cinetic.de (popeye.cinetic.de [194.122.194.100]) by mailgate3.cinetic.de (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with SMTP id f22AGrr07443; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:16:54 +0100 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:16:54 +0100 Message-Id: <200103021016.f22AGrr07443@mailgate3.cinetic.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ From: "Felix Multhaup" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problems using FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I've hust bought FreeBSD 4.2. Now I have a little problem. How can I= install my PCI Fritz Card ISDN =3F=3F Is there any tool to install new hardwa= re or even to detect new hardware =3F=3F=3F=20 Many thanks=20 Felix=20 =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F Alles unter einem Dach: Informationen, Fun, E-Mails. Bei WEB.DE: http://we= b.de Die gro=DFe Welt der Kommunikation: E-Mail, Fax, SMS, WAP: http://freemail.w= eb.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 2 2:34:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (gwdu60.gwdg.de [134.76.98.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F8037B71A; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:34:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de) Received: from localhost (kheuer@localhost) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f22AYDb24928; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:34:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:34:13 +0100 (CET) From: Konrad Heuer To: Felix Multhaup Cc: , Subject: Re: Problems using FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200103021016.f22AGrr07443@mailgate3.cinetic.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Felix Multhaup wrote: > Hello I've hust bought FreeBSD 4.2. Now I have a little problem. How > can I install my PCI Fritz Card ISDN ?? Is there any tool to install > new hardware or even to detect new hardware ??? First, I've no experience with ISDN ... ;-) But you may take a look at the man pages: man -k isdn There's a driver for PCI Fritz cards which has to be compiled into the kernel. man 4 ifpi will give you some information. Take also a look at /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT and read the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ Regards Konrad Heuer Personal Bookmarks: Gesellschaft f=FCr wissenschaftliche Datenverarbeitung mbH G=D6ttingen http://www.freebsd.org Am Fa=DFberg, D-37077 G=D6ttingen http://www.daemonnews.o= rg Deutschland (Germany) kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 2 2:34:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 447E837B71E for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:34:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from educatee2001@yahoo.com) Received: from co3018900-a.belrs1.nsw.optushome.com.au (HELO co3018900a) (203.164.78.30) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2001 10:34:32 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <003001c0a304$66e42bc0$1e4ea4cb@co3018900a> From: "Educatee" To: Subject: how could I bring up interface with new value without reboot? Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:34:45 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After I have edit the info for rc.conf, hosts, and resolv.conf, how could I bring this network interface up without having to restart? Thanks _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 2 7:33:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us (nths-exchange.nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us [209.232.116.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE0F37B718 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:33:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from CBurdick@nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us) Subject: unsubscribe freebsd-newbies To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.3 March 21, 2000 Message-ID: From: CBurdick@nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:19:25 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on THSServer0/NAPATH(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 03/02/2001 07:35:42 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-newbies To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 2 8:36:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from shell18.ba.best.com (shell18.ba.best.com [206.184.139.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD0A37B71D for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:36:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phinger@shell18.ba.best.com) Received: from localhost (phinger@localhost) by shell18.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id IAA25479; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:36:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:36:48 -0800 (PST) From: Adam LaBarge To: Wayne Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: unsubscribe freebsd-newbies In-Reply-To: <083c01c0a2e7$2129b360$831219c4@new.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-newbies Honestly, this email is relative. On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Wayne wrote: > unsubscribe freebsd-newbies > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 2 16:39: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from vorrix.com (ns1.vorrix.com [205.214.90.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C638037B71B for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:38:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steffen@vorrix.com) Received: from greywolf [192.168.0.16] by vorrix.com [192.168.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:38:20 -0500 Message-ID: <010301c0a37a$3e940700$1000a8c0@vnet.vorrix.com> From: "Steffen Vorrix" To: Subject: FreeBSD Books Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:38:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0100_01C0A350.55A59500" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Disposition-Notification-To: "Steffen Vorrix" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.16 X-Return-Path: steffen@vorrix.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0100_01C0A350.55A59500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can someone tell me about good freebsd books to buy. I have been to the = web site and read the freebsd handbook there. That seems to be a very = good source of information, but I find that I can read material easier = if I have the information bound in front of me. I also subscribe to a = few mailing lists, but as a Windows guy in a previous life, getting all = of the subtleties of FreeBSD is a little challenging. I am interested = in learing about home and corporate use. I have seen The Complete = FreeBSD and The FreeBSD Handbook, as well as The FreeBSD Corporate = Networker's Guide. Does anyone own these, and are they any good? The = reviews of the first two books tend be good, although both also tend to = suggest the books are dated. I am sure that I can find plenty of = information on the web, but a good reference starter book available at = the fingertips would be a great help. Steffen Vorrix steffen@vorrix.com ------=_NextPart_000_0100_01C0A350.55A59500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can someone tell me about good = freebsd books=20 to buy.  I have been to the web site and read the freebsd handbook=20 there.  That seems to be a very good source of information, but I = find that=20 I can read material easier if I have the information bound in front of = me. =20 I also subscribe to a few mailing lists, but as a Windows guy in a = previous=20 life, getting all of the subtleties of FreeBSD is a little = challenging.  I=20 am interested in learing about home and corporate use.  I have seen = The=20 Complete FreeBSD and The FreeBSD Handbook, as well as The FreeBSD = Corporate=20 Networker's Guide.  Does anyone own these, and are they any = good?  The=20 reviews of the first two books tend be good, although both also tend=20 to suggest the books are dated.  I am sure that I can = find plenty=20 of information on the web, but a good reference starter book available = at the=20 fingertips would be a great help.
 
Steffen Vorrix
steffen@vorrix.com
------=_NextPart_000_0100_01C0A350.55A59500-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 2 17: 4:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ancmail1.state.ak.us (dced.state.ak.us [146.63.92.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4213337B71A for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:04:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian_raynes@dnr.state.ak.us) Received: from dnr.state.ak.us ([146.63.110.47]) by ancmail1.state.ak.us (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9LKAU00.5OD; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:04:06 -0900 Message-ID: <3AA04381.277B6707@dnr.state.ak.us> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:06:09 -0900 From: Brian Raynes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steffen Vorrix , freebsd newbies Subject: Re: FreeBSD Books References: <010301c0a37a$3e940700$1000a8c0@vnet.vorrix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steffen Vorrix wrote: >Can someone tell me about good freebsd books to buy. I have been to the web site and read the >freebsd handbook there. That seems to be a very good source of information, but I find that I can >read material easier if I have the information bound in front of me. I found it so important that I printed out the pdf version of the handbook, or at least the first 450 or so pages of it. I had access to a duplexing printer though. >I have seen The Complete FreeBSD and The FreeBSD Handbook, as well as The FreeBSD Corporate >Networker's Guide. Does anyone own these, and are they any good? The reviews of the first two books >tend be good, although both also tend to suggest the books are dated. I own The Complete FreeBSD, it's pretty good still, but it does reference mainly 3.x branch. For most configuration things, the handbook fills in the gaps where changes have been made, at least that's my experience so far. My only problem has been finding explanations of how to do very specific things that fit my situation, but must not be especially common among others. I imagine that if I asked a few specific questions on the -questions list I could make it work, but I seem to get time to work on this stuff infrequently at home and do not wish to waste other's time until I've really tried the things that seem to make sense. Really the handbook together with The Complete FreeBSD have been very good for getting installed, configured and on the road to discovery. It will only take a little reading to find the important changes for configuring 4.x branch and the changes I've seen so far, the tun device comes to mind, actually make it easier and or better. Good luck! >Steffen Vorrix >steffen@vorrix.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 2 17:13:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776A637B719 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:13:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jallen@aviating.com) Received: from aviating.com (pool0243.cvx36-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [216.244.18.243]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08960 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:13:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AA04530.59C33A03@aviating.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:13:20 -0800 From: Slim Organization: none X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Books References: <010301c0a37a$3e940700$1000a8c0@vnet.vorrix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Everyone says they are. I recently got FreeBSD running, at least to the prompt. I have the Complete FreeBSD, and a bunch of stuff off the website. There is an area "for people new to FreeBSD and Unix", which cleared up a few mysteries. Roaming around the FreeBSD.org pages for a few weeks will, too. I have no Unix background whatsoever and frankly, it's a bit like buying a book and sitting down to learn French, not ever having heard any of it spoken, but, hey, if it was easy... C'est la vie! Jim Allen > Steffen Vorrix wrote: > > Can someone tell me about good freebsd books to buy. I have been to > the web site and read the freebsd handbook there. That seems to be a > very good source of information, but I find that I can read material > easier if I have the information bound in front of me. I also > subscribe to a few mailing lists, but as a Windows guy in a previous > life, getting all of the subtleties of FreeBSD is a little > challenging. I am interested in learing about home and corporate > use. I have seen The Complete FreeBSD and The FreeBSD Handbook, as > well as The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide. Does anyone own > these, and are they any good? The reviews of the first two books tend > be good, although both also tend to suggest the books are dated. I am > sure that I can find plenty of information on the web, but a good > reference starter book available at the fingertips would be a great > help. > > Steffen Vorrix > steffen@vorrix.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 2 18:59:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web12502.mail.yahoo.com (web12502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B34837B718 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:59:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from millioncheese@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010303025956.63571.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.237.35.38] by web12502.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:59:56 PST Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:59:56 -0800 (PST) From: Tyler McGeorge Reply-To: treznor@sunflower.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD Books To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, steffen@vorrix.com In-Reply-To: <3AA04530.59C33A03@aviating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I, myself, asked the same question as the my first activity on this mailing list. However, I had been running FreeBSD for 3 months prior to subscribing, and I was still floundering. The best response I got from my inquery about good books was that books tend to become outdated and require constant updating of one's library. Which is fine, because, I know I love to sit down and read a book (even if it is a Unix manual, my friends think I'm strange.) However, the best sources for information are usually online. If you have a question or problem, go to your favorite online search engine and type in, " tutorial" and it will usually come up with something useful. Another good source is the wide variety of websites devoted to FreeBSD, *BSD in general and *nix in general. A favorite being www.freebsddiary.org. And there is always FreeBSD-Questions mailing list. I have bought two Unix books. My first one was the Unix Bible (which was very detailed in Unix theory but not very practical for learning how to do stuff) and (I don't remember the exact name) The Unix Desktop Guide, which is a book packed full of glossary terms, scripting help and general usage of prompt. Neither of these are nessesarily for FreeBSD. The Unix Bible deals with FreeBSD and HP as their two primary examples (the book comes packaged with Slackware Linux, go figure.) I've recently done some research on my next purchase as far as Unix books go. I went to Amazon.com and was looking for a book on socket programming in C in Unix. I don't recall the exact name of the book, but it was rated well at Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble. In the FreeBSD community, almost everybody is willing to help. In fact, I saw a guy walking down the street with a FreeBSD t-shirt on (I haven't ordered mine yet, unfortunately) and I started talking to him. It's a brotherhood, I tells ya. Tyler > Steffen Vorrix wrote: > > Can someone tell me about good freebsd books to buy. I have been to > the web site and read the freebsd handbook there. That seems to be a > very good source of information, but I find that I can read material > easier if I have the information bound in front of me. I also > subscribe to a few mailing lists, but as a Windows guy in a previous > life, getting all of the subtleties of FreeBSD is a little > challenging. I am interested in learing about home and corporate > use. I have seen The Complete FreeBSD and The FreeBSD Handbook, as > well as The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide. Does anyone own > these, and are they any good? The reviews of the first two books tend > be good, although both also tend to suggest the books are dated. I am > sure that I can find plenty of information on the web, but a good > reference starter book available at the fingertips would be a great > help. > > Steffen Vorrix > steffen@vorrix.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Mar 3 11:41:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from euphoria.confusion.net (dementia.confusion.net [205.166.119.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B2337B71B; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:41:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuyman@euphoria.confusion.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by euphoria.confusion.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f23JfDE29899; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:41:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:41:12 -0800 (PST) From: Larry Berland To: Educatee Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how could I bring up interface with new value without reboot? In-Reply-To: <003001c0a304$66e42bc0$1e4ea4cb@co3018900a> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The easiest way to get all that to happen is to go into single user mode and then back up into multi, but AFAIK hosts and resolv.conf should get reread the next time something calls the resolver, without needing to actually do anything. Depending on the changes you make to rc.conf, you might also be able to do things like use ifconfig etc to make changes to a running system. Also, newbies isn't the place to ask these questions. Questions go to -questions. I've redirected replies to there. Laurence Berland http://www.isp.northwestern.edu/~laurence On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Educatee wrote: > After I have edit the info for rc.conf, hosts, and resolv.conf, how could I > bring this network interface up without having to restart? Thanks > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Mar 3 17:35:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe72.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.20.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4704A37B71A for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:35:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chayeiolam_fbsd@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:35:36 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [24.160.155.8] From: "Michael Sellers" To: Subject: geforce video Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:35:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01C0A419.13C5ED50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2001 01:35:36.0458 (UTC) FILETIME=[696C46A0:01C0A44B] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C0A419.13C5ED50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a nVidia Geforce2Mx card, and I am trying to configure X. It was my understanding that this card is fully supported by XFree86, but I am not having success. All I get is a fine checkerboard-like = pattern after I configure with XF86Setup, and I can't get out of it. = I'm really really new at this, so... Thanks a lot for any help. Michael Sellers ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C0A419.13C5ED50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a nVidia Geforce2Mx card, and I = am trying to=20 configure X.
It was my understanding that this card = is fully=20 supported by XFree86,
but I am not having success.  All = I get is a=20 fine checkerboard-like pattern after I configure with XF86Setup, and I = can't get=20 out of it.  I'm really really new at this, so...
 
Thanks a lot for any help.
 
Michael = Sellers
------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C0A419.13C5ED50-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Mar 3 20:27:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF8237B71A for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:27:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vcardona@home.com) Received: from marx.marvic.chum ([24.17.229.11]) by femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010304042749.SZJK29411.femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com@marx.marvic.chum> for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:27:49 -0800 Received: (from vcardona@localhost) by marx.marvic.chum (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) id f244Sap01063 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 22:28:36 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 22:28:35 -0600 From: "Victor R. Cardona" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: geforce video Message-ID: <20010303222835.A1060@marx.marvic.chum> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: ; from chayeiolam_fbsd@hotmail.com on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 07:35:17PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 07:35:17PM -0600, Michael Sellers wrote: > I have a nVidia Geforce2Mx card, and I am trying to configure X. > It was my understanding that this card is fully supported by XFree86, > but I am not having success. All I get is a fine checkerboard-like pattern after I configure with XF86Setup, and I can't get out of it. I'm really really new at this, so... I have a card based on the same chip. I know that it is supported in XFree86 4.0.2. I am not sure if earlier versions support it. - v -- Victor R. Cardona vcardona@home.com "Behold the keyboard of Kahless, the greatest Klingon code warrior that ever lived!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Mar 3 22:56: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (unknown [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECF237B719 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 22:55:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17370 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:30:15 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:30:15 +1100 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200103030130.MAA17370@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message