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> PLEASE FORWARD TO THE PERSON
> RESPONSIBLE FOR PURCHASING
> YOUR LASER PRINTER SUPPLIES
>
>
> **** VORTEX SUPPLIES ****
>
> -SPECIALS OF THE DAY ON LASER TONER SUPPLIES AT DISCOUNT PRICES--
>
> LASER PRINTER TONER CARTRIDGES
> COPIER AND FAX CARTRIDGES
>
> WE ARE -->THE<-- PLACE TO BUY YOUR TONER CARTRIDGES BECAUSE YOU
> SAVE UP TO 30% FROM OFFICE DEPOT'S, QUILL'S OR OFFICE MAX'S EVERY DAY
> LOW PRICES
>
> ORDER BY PHONE:1-888-288-9043
> ORDER BY FAX: 1-888-977-1577
> CUSTOMER SERVICE: 1-888-248-2015
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>
> UNIVERSITY AND/OR SCHOOL PURCHASE ORDERS WELCOME. (NO CREDIT APPROVAL
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> ALL OTHER PURCHASE ORDER REQUESTS REQUIRE CREDIT APPROVAL.
>
> PAY BY CHECK (C.O.D), CREDIT CARD OR PURCHASE ORDER (NET 30 DAYS).
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>
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> C.O.D. ORDERS ADD $4.5 TO SHIPPING CHARGES.
>
> FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO REQUIRE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR COMPANY
> INCUDING FEDERAL TAX ID NUMBER, CLOSEST SHIPPING OR CORPORATE ADDRESS IN
THE
> CONTINENTAL U.S. OR FOR CATALOG REQUESTS PLEASE CALL OUR CUSTOMER
> SERVICE LINE 1-888-248-2015
>
> OUR NEW , LASER PRINTER TONER CARTRIDGE, PRICES ARE AS FOLLOWS:
>
> (PLEASE ORDER BY PAGE NUMBER AND/OR ITEM NUMBER)
>
> HEWLETT PACKARD: (ON PAGE 2)
>
> ITEM #1 LASERJET SERIES 4L,4P (74A)------------------------$44
> ITEM #2 LASERJET SERIES 1100 (92A)-------------------------$44
> ITEM #3 LASERJET SERIES 2 (95A)-------------------------------$39
> ITEM #4 LASERJET SERIES 2P (75A)-----------------------------$54
> ITEM #5 LASERJET SERIES 5P,6P,5MP, 6MP (3903A)--$44
> ITEM #6 LASERJET SERIES 5SI, 5000 (29A)------------------$95
> ITEM #7 LASERJET SERIES 2100 (96A)-------------------------$74
> ITEM #8 LASERJET SERIES 8100 (82X)-----------------------$145
> ITEM #9 LASERJET SERIES 5L/6L (3906A0------------------$35
> ITEM #10 LASERJET SERIES 4V-------------------------------------$95
> ITEM #11 LASERJET SERIES 4000 (27X)-------------------------$72
> ITEM #12 LASERJET SERIES 3SI/4SI (91A)--------------------$54
> ITEM #13 LASERJET SERIES 4, 4M, 5,5M-----------------------$49
>
> HEWLETT PACKARD FAX (ON PAGE 2)
>
> ITEM #14 LASERFAX 500, 700 (FX1)----------$49
> ITEM #15 LASERFAX 5000,7000 (FX2)------$54
> ITEM #16 LASERFAX (FX3)------------------------$59
> ITEM #17 LASERFAX (FX4)------------------------$54
>
> LEXMARK/IBM (ON PAGE 3)
>
> OPTRA 4019, 4029 HIGH YIELD---------------$89
> OPTRA R, 4039, 4049 HIGH YIELD---------$105
> OPTRA E----------------------------------------------------$59
> OPTRA N--------------------------------------------------$115
> OPTRA S--------------------------------------------------$165
> -
> EPSON (ON PAGE 4)
>
> ACTION LASER 7000,7500,8000,9000-------$105
> ACTION LASER 1000,1500-------------------------$105
>
> CANON PRINTERS (ON PAGE 5)
>
> PLEASE CALL FOR MODELS AND UPDATED PRICES
> FOR CANON PRINTER CARTRIDGES
>
> PANASONIC (0N PAGE 7)
>
> NEC SERIES 2 MODELS 90 AND 95----------$105
>
> APPLE (0N PAGE 8)
>
> LASER WRITER PRO 600 or 16/600------------$49
> LASER WRITER SELECT 300,320,360---------$74
> LASER WRITER 300 AND 320----------------------$54
> LASER WRITER NT, 2NT------------------------------$54
> LASER WRITER 12/640--------------------------------$79
>
>
>
> CANON FAX (ON PAGE 9)
>
> LASERCLASS 4000 (FX3)---------------------------$59
> LASERCLASS 5000,6000,7000 (FX2)---------$54
> LASERFAX 5000,7000 (FX2)----------------------$54
> LASERFAX 8500,9000 (FX4)----------------------$54
>
>
> CANON COPIERS (PAGE 10)
>
> PC 3, 6RE, 7 AND 11 (A30)---------------------$69
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>
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From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 25 10:35:34 2001
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From: Tim Erlin
Subject: Re: Screen Resolution in KDE (FreeBSD)
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You'll probably get harassed for not asking this
question on -questions.
What version of FreeBSD? What version of XF86? What
kind of video card?
I found that using a Diamond Stealth III I couldn't
get XF86 3.3.6 (or KDE) to run with the proper screen
res. I upgrade to the latest release of XF86 and now
it works.
--Tim
--- Godfrey Anonical wrote:
> Hello, I just recenly installed freebsd and am using
> KDE. The problem is the
> output screen on my monitor is only displaying a
> portion of the entire
> desktop. I have to scroll down just to see the panel
> on the bottom of the
> screen (default). Did I do something wrong during
> the Xfree86 configuration?
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Try "Ctrl + Alt + +" or "Ctrl + Alt + -" to change the resolution.
>From: Godfrey Anonical
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>Subject: Screen Resolution in KDE (FreeBSD)
>Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 11:22:07 -0800
>
>Hello, I just recenly installed freebsd and am using KDE. The problem is
>the
>output screen on my monitor is only displaying a portion of the entire
>desktop. I have to scroll down just to see the panel on the bottom of the
>screen (default). Did I do something wrong during the Xfree86
>configuration?
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From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 25 19:11: 4 2001
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From: Brian Astill
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Subject: install from floppy
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:12:32 +1030
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If you have a CD-absent laptop and want to install from floppy disk (eg using
Doug Young's super "Pedantic FreeBSD" guide - DON'T!
Doug's guide is excellent, but the person who wrote the floppy installation
routine is another matter. That clown should have been subject to God's error
handling and never been born.
Why do I say this?
Installing from floppy is no small matter. You are looking at re-formatting 25
DOS disks, then preparing them for use (which also involves copying six files
at a time to each of 23 disks), then using the first two to boot to the FreeBSD
sysinstall and the remaining 23 to copy six files at a time onto your new
system. I found that it took roughly 10 minutes per disk to do that final
copying.
Overall time you should allow - five hours!
I got almost to the end of this process but disk 21 of the 23 had some fault
and sysinstall could not read one of the files on that disk.
"Would I like to try again" said the error message. Of course I would - so the
$##@*&% idiot system started again - from disk 1. "Thanks", I said (among
other things).
Obviously noone would want to go through the four-hour process of inserting 23
disks at 10-minute intervals, knowing that the slightest error at any point
would result in a compulsory re-start.
Even a newbie knows that the error handling routine should (a) preferably
produce a more specific message (eg "cannot read file bin.eu" would be helpful)
and (b) allow recovery from the point of the error (eg "please correct this
disk and reinsert when ready").
So, like I said, if you want to install from floppy disks - DON'T.
Of course, if you can get hold of the source and can insert a SENSIBLE
error-handling routine, that would be NICE!
I am going to have a go at installing using PLIP. Will let you know how that
goes.
--
Regards,
Brian
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Well yes installing from floppies IS troublesome at times, but I had to do
it with a bunch of prehistoric 386 Wangs that wouldn't look at a CD-ROM.
Brian is totally correct when he says floppies cark it at a critical moment,
however if you have (like I did at the time) such a pile of systemslying
around that a kangaroo dog couldn't jump over its not particularly difficult
to kick one into life to create replacement bin floppies on the fly :)
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Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 10:42 AM
Subject: install from floppy
> If you have a CD-absent laptop and want to install from floppy disk (eg
using
> Doug Young's super "Pedantic FreeBSD" guide - DON'T!
> Doug's guide is excellent, but the person who wrote the floppy
installation
> routine is another matter. That clown should have been subject to God's
error
> handling and never been born.
> Why do I say this?
>
> Installing from floppy is no small matter. You are looking at
re-formatting 25
> DOS disks, then preparing them for use (which also involves copying six
files
> at a time to each of 23 disks), then using the first two to boot to the
FreeBSD
> sysinstall and the remaining 23 to copy six files at a time onto your new
> system. I found that it took roughly 10 minutes per disk to do that final
> copying.
> Overall time you should allow - five hours!
> I got almost to the end of this process but disk 21 of the 23 had some
fault
> and sysinstall could not read one of the files on that disk.
> "Would I like to try again" said the error message. Of course I would -
so the
> $##@*&% idiot system started again - from disk 1. "Thanks", I said (among
> other things).
> Obviously noone would want to go through the four-hour process of
inserting 23
> disks at 10-minute intervals, knowing that the slightest error at any
point
> would result in a compulsory re-start.
> Even a newbie knows that the error handling routine should (a) preferably
> produce a more specific message (eg "cannot read file bin.eu" would be
helpful)
> and (b) allow recovery from the point of the error (eg "please correct
this
> disk and reinsert when ready").
>
> So, like I said, if you want to install from floppy disks - DON'T.
> Of course, if you can get hold of the source and can insert a SENSIBLE
> error-handling routine, that would be NICE!
>
> I am going to have a go at installing using PLIP. Will let you know how
that
> goes.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Brian
>
> ********************************************************
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> Flinders University Institute of International Education
> Bus 8201 3480 FAX 8449 9199
> bastill@sa.apana.org.au
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From: ML Duke
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Well .... as I recall, the documentation, and Greg's
book, advise a floppy install for those and only those
who like to do things the hard way.
Think of how much happier you will be with a different
approach [Grin].
ML Duke
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On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 07:31:46PM -0800, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote:
> >
> > > >> Support questions should be sent to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > >> (NOT to the newbies list please)
> >
> > This is another problem. What is a "support question"?
That's proved not as hard to work out as you might think.
> > "Technical questions" might be better.
To us, yes. Use that term as in "all technical questions to
freebsd-questions" and all newbies will understand perfectly.
But we can't, because the non-newbies speak a different language.
I wish we could.
> "technical questions" sounds good...those should be sent to
> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org. i'll add that in the info file.
NOOOO! Jonathan, you and your clever type just don't understand what
"technical" conveys to newbies :-) You're way up there and your
perspective on technicality is nothing like ours. You lot have your own
stickler-precise meaning, and if you use it like that here you will
_communicate_ something entirely different. The opposite, in fact.
What you mean, I think, is that highly complex (to us) technical
developer-kernel-guru type stuff goes to freebsd-hackers. You say
"technical" and we read "like rebooting computers, setting VCRs,
microwave ovens, stuff like that". To most newbies, and to me, any
question like "how do I change my computer's name" or "can I use
a winmodem?" is highly technical! If you don't believe me, go to
your local grocery store, ask the person serving if they regard that
as a "technical question" or not. I dare ya :-)
No use telling me my use of the term is wrong, Jonathan (and Greg too,
I can feel your linguistic perfection rising, put it down :-)), the only
thing that really matters is what you communicate. Unfortunately you
can't get inside our brains and change them before you speak. People
come from non-technical backgrounds, end up in -newbies feeling it's
all very technical, and we haven't got time to reteach English. Some
of us spend all day advising callers to use the _left_ mouse button
and make sure the monitor is turned on, and it's called "technical
support". I'd agree, that's not very technical, but that doesn't
help us to correct the language of newcomers before they blunder.
One of the other contributing factors to misunderstanding -newbies has
been the instruction that technical questions (you meaning deep magic
stuff) should not be sent to -questions (which is much more technical
than my microwave, therefore a technical list, not a social one).
To quote:
FREEBSD-QUESTIONS
User questions
This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should
not send `how to'' questions to the technical lists unless you
consider the question to be pretty technical.
Huh??? The first sentence would have been enough. The second
merely confuses. Maybe even "This is the mailing list for
how-to questions about FreeBSD." would keep everyone happy.
Newbies who do do absolutely the right thing will read the second
sentence, and say um, OK, I'd better send my technical questions
to -newbies because they're not allowed on -questions. To some of
us that's what it says, even though it is "wrong".
Can you understand how misleading that -questions statement is to
newbies? If you can't, then you must understand why we need a space
where newbies can at least understand each other :-) I've argued blue
in the face over this word for three years, and it seems that nobody is
sufficiently interested in getting the right message across to newbies,
to back down and change the ambiguous wording of the -questions
charter. They just can't see that other perspectives exist,
we're all too far apart here. Indeed, if the "technical" ambiguity
had not existed, we might not have had such a pressing need for -newbies.
If we cannot communicate with visitors and new arrivals in terms
they can correctly interpret, then it looks like we don't want to
communicate with them at all. I don't think that's the case.
--
Regards,
-*Sue*-
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I'm running FreeBSD 4.2. any one who can help me to configure. everytime i start mi machine i end up having a text only log on screen after the kernel has loaded. I want to configure it to give me my xdm log on screen the one with a GUI and later change it to even kdm or gdm. thanks.
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Godfrey Anonical wrote:
>
> Hello, I just recenly installed freebsd and am using KDE. The problem is the
> output screen on my monitor is only displaying a portion of the entire
> desktop. I have to scroll down just to see the panel on the bottom of the
> screen (default). Did I do something wrong during the Xfree86 configuration?
> Please advise. Thank you
This is what is known as a "virtual desktop". If you used the xf86config
command to setup X, then this is what you get by default. The XF86Setup
command doesn't give you this.
Take a look at the X11 section in the FreeBSD Handbook for ways to fix
this. It involves editing the XF86Config file.
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Belfred I Antonio wrote:
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> I'm running FreeBSD 4.2. any one who can help me to configure. everytime i start mi machine i end up having a text only log on screen after the kernel has loaded. I want to configure it to give me my xdm log on screen the one with a GUI and later change it to even kdm or gdm. thanks.
Setting up xdm is a bit more difficult under FreeBSD than in Linux. The
FreeBSD has a discussion of it. Even after that you might need to edit
the files in the xdm directory.
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Brian,
Try adding xdm to the /etc/ttys file:
ttyv8 "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure
Horace R. Crump III
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> I'm running FreeBSD 4.2. any one who can help me to configure. everytime i start mi machine i end up having a text only log on screen after the kernel has loaded. I want to configure it to give me my xdm log on screen the one with a GUI and later change it to even kdm or gdm. thanks.
>
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The first time I ran xf86config I chose to have no virtual screen and run
it in 1024x768 resolution, when I went into X the desktop was so large that
I had to move the mouse around the edges to get around the desktop. I
re-configured X and did the same thing by turning the virtual screen off,
but the desktop is still large. I am running an ATI Xpert 98 with a MACH_64
server, anyone have ideas?
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Hi !
I'm very new to FreeBSD, i have a question about ports.
How can i upgrade an installed port ?
For example i have installed Bluefish 0.5 (make install in
/usr/ports/www/bluefish/),
but i would like to upgrade to 0.6.
Thanks.
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This is the second time I'm saying this for this week...
Try "ctrl + alt + +" and/or "ctrl + alt + -" to adjust the resolution.
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>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:24:42 -0800
>
>
>The first time I ran xf86config I chose to have no virtual screen and run
>it in 1024x768 resolution, when I went into X the desktop was so large that
>I had to move the mouse around the edges to get around the desktop. I
>re-configured X and did the same thing by turning the virtual screen off,
>but the desktop is still large. I am running an ATI Xpert 98 with a MACH_64
>server, anyone have ideas?
>
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On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, CBurdick@nths.nvusd.k12.ca.us wrote:
> The first time I ran xf86config I chose to have no virtual screen and run
> it in 1024x768 resolution, when I went into X the desktop was so large that
> I had to move the mouse around the edges to get around the desktop. I
> re-configured X and did the same thing by turning the virtual screen off,
> but the desktop is still large. I am running an ATI Xpert 98 with a MACH_64
> server, anyone have ideas?
Is this a technical question :-)
The most likely SIMPLE explanation is that your monitor needs adjusting.
Just move the horizontal and vertical sizes to taste.
My guess is that you have a good display with A.N.Other's OS.
The display position on the screen and it's size WILL change from OS to OS, and
NO! I don't know why.
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Doug Young wrote:
> Well yes installing from floppies IS troublesome at times, but I had to do
> it with a bunch of prehistoric 386 Wangs that wouldn't look at a CD-ROM.
>
> Brian is totally correct when he says floppies cark it at a critical moment,
> however if you have (like I did at the time) such a pile of systemslying
> around that a kangaroo dog couldn't jump over its not particularly difficult
> to kick one into life to create replacement bin floppies on the fly :)
Actually Doug, it was because I couldn't do what you say you did (make a
replacement floppy and offer it to the install program and continue) that made
me so cross.
I didn't think "try again" should mean "start over from the beginning"!
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> Actually Doug, it was because I couldn't do what you say you did (make a
> replacement floppy and offer it to the install program and continue) that
made
> me so cross.
> I didn't think "try again" should mean "start over from the beginning"!
yeah .... it does give one a case of the "irrits" when that happens. I have
had it
happen but thankfully not very often ....95% of the time when I get a
deceased
floppy I just whack in another one with the same files & voila !!!. I did
mess
around with local FTP installs a while back but didn't get anywhere (like
all things
unix its undoubtedly simple but not well explained) Maybe I could get it to
work
now but why bother when I have a permanent connection ??
The regular CD install is definitely the easiest if you have a good CD (some
of
the Tesla ones are trouble), & FTP from someplace else works fine as long as
you have a reasonable permanent connection. (ie preferably not relying on
Tel$tra)
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From: Henry Ammons
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Good Day.
I am preparing to switch my personal web/email server
over to FreeBSD (from W2K/Exchg) this weekend and had
some quick (maybe political) questions that might help
me to accomplish this exciting task.
I have topically read a couple books and spent some
time with the handbook and other online resources for
the last several weeks in preparation for the build.
I have also pre-built an extra pc as practice. My
questions boil down to recommendations regarding what
I should initially load to get the server up and
running without overloading it with lots of extras (as
my brief work with Mandrake demonstrated).
The server is connected to the Internet via a DSL
static ip connection and I initially want to provide
the following services (no X): Web, Secure Telnet,
Email, Secure FTP, and network software (NAT,
firewall, proxy)
I believe I will run qmail as my mail server, and
Apache as the web server.
Is there a list of software/binaries that you would
recommend that provides a good balance between loading
everything and a minimalist approach? Also, do you
recommend the Novice installation from the sysinstall
program?
And lastly, what servers do you recommend for each
service? I tried postfix in an earlier life (Linux),
but kind of prefer qmail based only on what others
have said (no personal experience).
I sincerely appreciate your assistance and experience
and look forward to the world of FreeBSD full-time,
Thank you,
Henry
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On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 08:30:49AM -0800, Henry Ammons wrote:
> Is there a list of software/binaries that you would
> recommend that provides a good balance between loading
> everything and a minimalist approach? Also, do you
> recommend the Novice installation from the sysinstall
> program?
>
> And lastly, what servers do you recommend for each
> service? I tried postfix in an earlier life (Linux),
> but kind of prefer qmail based only on what others
> have said (no personal experience).
Here are my recommendations for servers:
Apache - Web server, best choice on FreeBSD
OpenSSH - Secure telent-like server, included in base install
OpenSSH - secure ftpd, providesa secure ftp server, also in base system
IFilter - firewall with IPNAT for NATting connections.
The novice install will work fine.
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Having problem setting up amd for our freebsd system. I've been trying
to create amd.conf that would work with our NFS automount. I would like
to translate our auto.master such that amd would work same way with
solaris and HP systems. Our NFS/NIS server is on HP. Here's our
auto.home
/net -hosts -nosuid,soft
#
# ********** SHARED FILE SYSTEMS ***************
/- auto.direct
#
# ********** END-USER FILE SYSTEMS ***************
/home/export /etc/auto_homeexport
auto.direct map
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/common1 amber:/export/share/common1
/temparea amber:/export/share/temparea
/source0 amber:/export/share/source0
/source1 amber:/export/share/source1
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/home/users amber:/home/users
/temparea2 amber:/export/share/temparea2
/ddts1 amber:/export/share/ddts1
auto_homeexport
----------------
* amber:/home/export/&
Can someone help me please. I really appreciate your help.
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Hello all,
I'm on FreeBSD 4.2 Release,
I would like to limit the users to use no more than 2 procces.
When i took a look at login.conf
I have found a class called default:\
so i created a class called basic1:\
Its a copy of default adding to it the line :maxproc=4:\
Now when i add a user I do the class for the user basic1
But, the user still can use as many as process he want.
Why ? how i can make the basic1 class active ?
Take a note that i Did cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf
after i have modified login.conf
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On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Felix Multhaup wrote:
> Hello I've hust bought FreeBSD 4.2. Now I have a little problem. How
> can I install my PCI Fritz Card ISDN ?? Is there any tool to install
> new hardware or even to detect new hardware ???
First, I've no experience with ISDN ... ;-)
But you may take a look at the man pages:
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After I have edit the info for rc.conf, hosts, and resolv.conf, how could I
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Can someone tell me about good freebsd books to buy. I have been to the =
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in learing about home and corporate use. I have seen The Complete =
FreeBSD and The FreeBSD Handbook, as well as The FreeBSD Corporate =
Networker's Guide. Does anyone own these, and are they any good? The =
reviews of the first two books tend be good, although both also tend to =
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>Can someone tell me about good freebsd books to buy. I have been to the web site and read the >freebsd handbook there. That seems to be a very good source of information, but I find that I can >read material easier if I have the information bound in front of me.
I found it so important that I printed out the pdf version of the
handbook, or at least the first 450 or so pages of it. I had access
to a duplexing printer though.
>I have seen The Complete FreeBSD and The FreeBSD Handbook, as well as The FreeBSD Corporate >Networker's Guide. Does anyone own these, and are they any good? The reviews of the first two books >tend be good, although both also tend to suggest the books are dated.
I own The Complete FreeBSD, it's pretty good still, but it does
reference mainly 3.x branch. For most configuration things, the
handbook fills in the gaps where changes have been made, at least
that's my experience so far. My only problem has been finding
explanations of how to do very specific things that fit my situation,
but must not be especially common among others. I imagine that if I
asked a few specific questions on the -questions list I could make it
work, but I seem to get time to work on this stuff infrequently at
home and do not wish to waste other's time until I've really tried the
things that seem to make sense.
Really the handbook together with The Complete FreeBSD have been very
good for getting installed, configured and on the road to discovery.
It will only take a little reading to find the important changes for
configuring 4.x branch and the changes I've seen so far, the tun
device comes to mind, actually make it easier and or better.
Good luck!
>Steffen Vorrix
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Everyone says they are. I recently got FreeBSD running, at least to the
prompt. I have the Complete FreeBSD, and a bunch of stuff off the
website. There is an area "for people new to FreeBSD and Unix", which
cleared up a few mysteries. Roaming around the FreeBSD.org pages for a
few weeks will, too.
I have no Unix background whatsoever and frankly, it's a bit like buying
a book and sitting down to learn French, not ever having heard any of it
spoken, but, hey, if it was easy...
C'est la vie!
Jim Allen
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>
> Can someone tell me about good freebsd books to buy. I have been to
> the web site and read the freebsd handbook there. That seems to be a
> very good source of information, but I find that I can read material
> easier if I have the information bound in front of me. I also
> subscribe to a few mailing lists, but as a Windows guy in a previous
> life, getting all of the subtleties of FreeBSD is a little
> challenging. I am interested in learing about home and corporate
> use. I have seen The Complete FreeBSD and The FreeBSD Handbook, as
> well as The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide. Does anyone own
> these, and are they any good? The reviews of the first two books tend
> be good, although both also tend to suggest the books are dated. I am
> sure that I can find plenty of information on the web, but a good
> reference starter book available at the fingertips would be a great
> help.
>
> Steffen Vorrix
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I, myself, asked the same question as the my first
activity on this mailing list. However, I had been
running FreeBSD for 3 months prior to subscribing,
and I was still floundering. The best response I got
from my inquery about good books was that books tend
to become outdated and require constant updating of
one's library. Which is fine, because, I know I love
to sit down and read a book (even if it is a Unix
manual, my friends think I'm strange.) However, the
best sources for information are usually online. If
you have a question or problem, go to your favorite
online search engine and type in, " tutorial"
and it will usually come up with something useful.
Another good source is the wide variety of websites
devoted to FreeBSD, *BSD in general and *nix in
general. A favorite being www.freebsddiary.org. And
there is always FreeBSD-Questions mailing list.
I have bought two Unix books. My first one was the
Unix Bible (which was very detailed in Unix theory but
not very practical for learning how to do stuff) and
(I don't remember the exact name) The Unix Desktop
Guide, which is a book packed full of glossary terms,
scripting help and general usage of prompt. Neither of
these are nessesarily for FreeBSD. The Unix Bible
deals with FreeBSD and HP as their two primary
examples (the book comes packaged with Slackware
Linux, go figure.)
I've recently done some research on my next purchase
as far as Unix books go. I went to Amazon.com and was
looking for a book on socket programming in C in Unix.
I don't recall the exact name of the book, but it was
rated well at Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble.
In the FreeBSD community, almost everybody is willing
to help. In fact, I saw a guy walking down the street
with a FreeBSD t-shirt on (I haven't ordered mine yet,
unfortunately) and I started talking to him. It's a
brotherhood, I tells ya.
Tyler
> Steffen Vorrix wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me about good freebsd books to
buy. I have been to
> the web site and read the freebsd handbook there.
That seems to be a
> very good source of information, but I find that I
can read material
> easier if I have the information bound in front of
me. I also
> subscribe to a few mailing lists, but as a Windows
guy in a previous
> life, getting all of the subtleties of FreeBSD is
a little
> challenging. I am interested in learing about
home and corporate
> use. I have seen The Complete FreeBSD and The
FreeBSD Handbook, as
> well as The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide.
Does anyone own
> these, and are they any good? The reviews of the
first two books tend
> be good, although both also tend to suggest the
books are dated. I am
> sure that I can find plenty of information on the
web, but a good
> reference starter book available at the fingertips
would be a great
> help.
>
> Steffen Vorrix
> steffen@vorrix.com
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The easiest way to get all that to happen is to go into single user mode
and then back up into multi, but AFAIK hosts and resolv.conf should get
reread the next time something calls the resolver, without needing to
actually do anything. Depending on the changes you make to rc.conf, you
might also be able to do things like use ifconfig etc to make changes to a
running system.
Also, newbies isn't the place to ask these questions. Questions go to
-questions. I've redirected replies to there.
Laurence Berland
http://www.isp.northwestern.edu/~laurence
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> bring this network interface up without having to restart? Thanks
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From: "Victor R. Cardona"
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Subject: Re: geforce video
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On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 07:35:17PM -0600, Michael Sellers wrote:
> I have a nVidia Geforce2Mx card, and I am trying to configure X.
> It was my understanding that this card is fully supported by XFree86,
> but I am not having success. All I get is a fine checkerboard-like pattern after I configure with XF86Setup, and I can't get out of it. I'm really really new at this, so...
I have a card based on the same chip. I know that it is supported in
XFree86 4.0.2. I am not sure if earlier versions support it.
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FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit
(This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list.
It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/)
FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about
installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests
are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions.
FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to
questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies.
FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and
covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt
with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on
our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how
to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to
use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories,
moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the
FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to
freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are
doing the same things that we do as newbies.
One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find
help when we need it. Here are some suggestions:
When something doesn't work the way you expect
1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at
http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and
security advisories.
2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at
http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html
3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of
`uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question
to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG.
Mailing lists
When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only
one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG.
FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as
more general and advanced questions.
You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a
question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you
personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and
followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them
different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to
freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the
recent questions and their answers.
Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer
FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when
they get questions which are difficult to understand.
http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too.
If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and
ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to
the support mailing list.
Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing
list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might
get the answer right away. It's always worth trying.
Other mailing lists
(http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS)
cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll
need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's
probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for
advice about where to post a more specialised question.
FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional
announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick
Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too.
Manuals
You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to
use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not
always as easy as it sounds!
If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a
brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need,
always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you
do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction.
Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is
encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at
http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html
Other resources
A resource list is available at
http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and
inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It
includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web
pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a
suggestion for good material to be included, please write to
freebsd-newbies and tell us about it.
But I have seen people asking questions here!
It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a
mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from
time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't
belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose
job it is to sort these problems out privately.
The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It
is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies
so we all make mistakes. That's OK.
One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions,
believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies,
not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the
situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to
redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently.
There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either.
So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions
as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies
can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on
our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not
allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the
mistakes that we need to make in order to learn.
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