From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 8 2:54:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from omta02.mta.everyone.net (sitemail.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F1937B423 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 02:54:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sphinX@euromedia.ro) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (reports [216.200.145.62]) by omta02.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5775C1C3A16 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 02:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id 43C1F274E; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 02:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 02:54:44 -0700 (PDT) From: sphin X To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: browzers Reply-To: sphinX@euromedia.ro X-Originating-Ip: [62.192.66.142] Message-Id: <20010408095444.43C1F274E@sitemail.everyone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello everyone, well, this is my first post here from freebsd. just managed to configure it. in case someone knows, i tried to get netscape comunicator 4.7 and on install it said it wants to put some older x11 aout libraries. i chose no so installation stoped. shall i go on and choose yes? then tried to put opera but got prob with linux_base, some stuff from there could not be found. i got mozilla now but its too slow. does anyone know how to go around the netscape problem? i'd be gratefull for answers cause i'm on 56k and cant just download huge ports just to try them out. is there any other fast, but full featured, browzer i can get??? thanx a lot... _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 8 4: 3:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from earth.inco.com.lb (earth.inco.com.lb [193.188.135.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1634A37B423; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 04:03:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djt2000@inco.com.lb) Received: from oxygen ([194.126.27.95]) by earth.inco.com.lb (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f38B56K04452; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 09:05:07 -0200 (GMT) Message-ID: <000a01c0bff3$a8edf8a0$0fcaa8c0@oxygen> From: "SOUEID Toni" To: , Subject: X Server refuses to start Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 08:17:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a Pentium 200 MHZ with a Cirrus Logic 5430 Card. When I configure my X-server during the installation I manage to get my X-Server Running. But When I type startx after rebooting I get the following message SVGA : no such mode "640*480" Can anyone help me please ? my email is djt2000@inco.com.lb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 8 4:34: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from omta01.mta.everyone.net (sitemail.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C64A37B423 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 04:33:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sphinX@euromedia.ro) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (reports [216.200.145.62]) by omta01.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B374C1C3E3D; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 04:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id 79FAB36F9; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 04:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 04:31:04 -0700 (PDT) From: sphin X To: Heiko Recktenwald , David Johnson Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ports Reply-To: sphinX@euromedia.ro X-Originating-Ip: [62.192.66.142] Message-Id: <20010408113104.79FAB36F9@sitemail.everyone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi heiko, i've just started with x and use twm for about 3 hours now... not sure if its rude to ask, is there any chance we get a copy of this script so to have a starting point??? i'm planning to stick with wtm for the moment and try to configure it to learn. dont wanna fall into the trap of downloading and trying all bloody window managers from my 56k connection. u know, one thing i realy miss from ms-win is the alt-tab thing to switch between windows(and brink them forward as well). can this be done on wtm? it just pisses me off that i got to move the mouse all the time to change window and have to click to brink it forward... thanx a lot. --- Heiko Recktenwald > wrote: >> > KDE is a windozish desktop, you dont need it, it is confusing. >> > twm, that is the default when you install X, is all you need to run things >> > like xv, basic image manipulation, or gimp, or netscape. >> >> Surely there's better window managers than twm! If you want still want >> it small, fast and efficient (even more so than twm), then use Blackbox. > >Well, everybody has his personal favourites. I was thinking about somebody >new to Unix. > >But I like twm. No junk on the screen. I dont need more than one desktop. >And all thge items that could be usefull on the desktop are in the left >mousekey. The most essential things. Like gyroscope, a calculator, xmix. >Much better ;-) > >Somebody from this list helped me a lot in setting up a .twmrc. Beauty in >use.. Worth the efford. > >H. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 8 6: 5:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-03.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BD2437B423 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 06:05:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from katinka@magestower.com) Received: (qmail 9312 invoked by uid 666); 8 Apr 2001 13:05:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO WSKATINKA) (203.59.179.57) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 8 Apr 2001 13:05:39 -0000 Message-ID: <004d01c0c02c$32db49e0$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> From: "Kathy Quinlan" To: Subject: MIKE Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 21:02:41 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, Is it just me or are well receiving multiple blank posts from Mike, dated the 4/4/01 time 15:45 ??? I must now have over 40 of these blank emails. Details below: Regards, Kat. Return-Path: Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 05:34:12 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Resent-From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Resent-Message-Id: <200104081234.FAA00209@aleon.vetl.org> Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F00655DB9; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:45:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) id 2005337B71D; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39BB22E816C; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:51:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:51:32 -0700 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13205.mail.yahoo.com (web13205.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2989637B729 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:47:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wm_13@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010404074734.10927.qmail@web13205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.17.24.17] by web13205.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 00:47:34 PDT Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:47:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Status: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 8 6:12:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gargoyle.apana.org.au (gargoyle-xl0.apana.org.au [210.215.3.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB85F37B423 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 06:12:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gargoyle.apana.org.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f38DDvh89356; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 23:13:57 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from bryden.apana.org.au(203.3.126.129), claiming to be "bryden" via SMTP by gargoyle.apana.org.au, id smtpdtyccW1; Sun Apr 8 23:13:47 2001 Message-ID: <01b201c0c02d$73bb7420$0200a8c0@apana.org.au> From: "Doug Young" To: "Kathy Quinlan" , References: <004d01c0c02c$32db49e0$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> Subject: Re: MIKE Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 23:11:38 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org none here ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Quinlan" To: Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 11:02 PM Subject: MIKE > Hi all, > > Is it just me or are well receiving multiple blank posts from Mike, dated > the 4/4/01 time 15:45 ??? > > > I must now have over 40 of these blank emails. > > > Details below: > > > Regards, > > Kat. > > > Return-Path: > Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 05:34:12 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) > Resent-From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Resent-Message-Id: <200104081234.FAA00209@aleon.vetl.org> > Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) > by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP > id 1F00655DB9; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:45:56 -0700 (PDT) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) > id 2005337B71D; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:51:34 -0700 (PDT) > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP > id 39BB22E816C; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:51:33 -0700 (PDT) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies) > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 4 Apr 2001 > 00:51:32 -0700 > Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > Received: from web13205.mail.yahoo.com (web13205.mail.yahoo.com > [216.136.174.190]) > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2989637B729 > for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:47:34 -0700 (PDT) > (envelope-from wm_13@yahoo.com) > Message-ID: <20010404074734.10927.qmail@web13205.mail.yahoo.com> > Received: from [212.17.24.17] by web13205.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 > 00:47:34 PDT > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:47:34 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mike > Status: > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 8 6:20:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (CPE-61-9-164-127.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.164.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3AC37B422 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 06:20:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f38DJm711384; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 23:19:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Message-Id: <200104081319.f38DJm711384@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Sergeant" To: sphinX@euromedia.ro, Heiko Recktenwald , David Johnson , sphin X Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ports X-Mailer: Pronto v2.2.3 On freebsd/mysql Date: 08 Apr 2001 08:19:45 EST Reply-To: "Mark Sergeant" In-Reply-To: <20010408113104.79FAB36F9@sitemail.everyone.net> References: <20010408113104.79FAB36F9@sitemail.everyone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am not sure of ALT-TAB in twm but in Blackbox using bbkeys it is easy to program keys to do whatever you like. I tried enlightenment, windowmaker, gnome, kde, cde, twm, fvwm, olm, icewm, sawfish & blackbox and the wm I always came back to was Blackbox, small codebase, Clean and fast... what more do you need ? Cheers, Mark On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 04:31:04 -0700 (PDT), sphin X said: > hi heiko, i've just started with x and use twm for about 3 hours now... > > not sure if its rude to ask, is there any chance we get a copy of this script so to have a starting point??? i'm planning to stick with wtm for the moment and try to configure it to learn. dont wanna fall into the trap of downloading and trying all bloody window managers from my 56k connection. > > u know, one thing i realy miss from ms-win is the alt-tab thing to switch between windows(and brink them forward as well). can this be done on wtm? it just pisses me off that i got to move the mouse all the time to change window and have to click to brink it forward... > > thanx a lot. > > --- Heiko Recktenwald > > wrote: > >> > KDE is a windozish desktop, you dont need it, it is confusing. > >> > twm, that is the default when you install X, is all you need to run things > >> > like xv, basic image manipulation, or gimp, or netscape. > >> > >> Surely there's better window managers than twm! If you want still want > >> it small, fast and efficient (even more so than twm), then use Blackbox. > > > >Well, everybody has his personal favourites. I was thinking about somebody > >new to Unix. > > > >But I like twm. No junk on the screen. I dont need more than one desktop. > >And all thge items that could be usefull on the desktop are in the left > >mousekey. The most essential things. Like gyroscope, a calculator, xmix. > >Much better ;-) > > > >Somebody from this list helped me a lot in setting up a .twmrc. Beauty in > >use.. Worth the efford. > > > >H. > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > _____________________________________________________________ > Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > -- Happiness isn't something you experience; it's something you remember. -- Oscar Levant To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 8 6:24:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-01.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29B2B37B422 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 06:24:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from katinka@magestower.com) Received: (qmail 11601 invoked by uid 666); 8 Apr 2001 13:24:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO WSKATINKA) (203.59.179.57) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 8 Apr 2001 13:24:32 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c0c02e$d64ef020$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> From: "Kathy Quinlan" To: "Doug Young" , References: <004d01c0c02c$32db49e0$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> <01b201c0c02d$73bb7420$0200a8c0@apana.org.au> Subject: Re: MIKE Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 21:21:35 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org HMMMMMMM I will have to get intouch with the server administrator for my mail account and see what he can do (must be looping on his system) BTW was there a post from mike around that time ? Regards, Kat ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Young To: Kathy Quinlan ; Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 9:11 PM Subject: Re: MIKE > none here > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Quinlan" > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 11:02 PM > Subject: MIKE > > > > Hi all, > > > > Is it just me or are well receiving multiple blank posts from Mike, > dated > > the 4/4/01 time 15:45 ??? > > > > > > I must now have over 40 of these blank emails. > > > > > > Details below: > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kat. > > > > > > Return-Path: > > Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 05:34:12 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) > > Resent-From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > Resent-Message-Id: <200104081234.FAA00209@aleon.vetl.org> > > Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) > > by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP > > id 1F00655DB9; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:45:56 -0700 (PDT) > > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) > > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) > > id 2005337B71D; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:51:34 -0700 (PDT) > > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP > > id 39BB22E816C; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:51:33 -0700 (PDT) > > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies) > > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 4 Apr 2001 > > 00:51:32 -0700 > > Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > > Received: from web13205.mail.yahoo.com (web13205.mail.yahoo.com > > [216.136.174.190]) > > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2989637B729 > > for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:47:34 -0700 > (PDT) > > (envelope-from wm_13@yahoo.com) > > Message-ID: <20010404074734.10927.qmail@web13205.mail.yahoo.com> > > Received: from [212.17.24.17] by web13205.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 04 > Apr 2001 > > 00:47:34 PDT > > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:47:34 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Mike > > Status: > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 8 15:27:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from intrigue.willinet.net (intrigue.willinet.net [198.49.30.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA14F37B423 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 15:27:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lute@willinet.net) Received: (qmail 1222 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2001 17:27:45 -0500 Received: from ps62sux.willinet.net (HELO gomer) (205.163.104.77) by intrigue.willinet.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2001 17:27:45 -0500 Received: from lute by gomer with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14mNXy-0001TM-00; Sun, 08 Apr 2001 17:20:38 -0500 Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 17:20:38 -0500 From: Lute Mullenix To: Mark Sergeant , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ports Message-ID: <20010408172038.A5624@willinet.net> Reply-To: lute@willinet.net References: <20010408113104.79FAB36F9@sitemail.everyone.net> <200104081319.f38DJm711384@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104081319.f38DJm711384@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net>; from msergeant@snsonline.net on Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 08:19:45AM -0500 X-Spam-Rating: intrigue.willinet.net 1.6.2 0/0/N Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 08:19:45AM -0500, Mark Sergeant wrote: > I am not sure of ALT-TAB in twm but in Blackbox using bbkeys it is easy to > program keys to do whatever you like. I tried enlightenment, windowmaker, > gnome, kde, cde, twm, fvwm, olm, icewm, sawfish & blackbox and the wm I always > came back to was Blackbox, small codebase, Clean and fast... what more do you > need ? > > Cheers, > > Mark > I am not sure how hard it would be to change it, but the main thing I have against blackbox is that it wanted me to have the mouse pointer in the window to use the window. I didn't like that. I also like the toolbar on icewm where my most used apps are just a single click away, rather digging through a menu to get to it, and if you don't want to look at it all the time, (but I sort of like the clock, CPU, and ppp monitors.) simply auto hide it. I do have to say the blackbox has a very attractive appearance, and did consider if for a while, but in the end for the slightly larger foot print, and convienence of ice. I think the best advice is to just try them all, and choose the one that feels best to you, after all isn't that what most of us have done? -- >Lute< Hey! It happens. Well it does... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 8 15:39:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (CPE-61-9-164-127.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.164.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3693A37B422 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 15:39:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f38MdY712898; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:39:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Message-Id: <200104082239.f38MdY712898@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Sergeant" To: lute@willinet.net, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, Lute Mullenix Subject: Re: Ports X-Mailer: Pronto v2.2.3 On freebsd/mysql Date: 08 Apr 2001 17:39:32 EST Reply-To: "Mark Sergeant" In-Reply-To: <20010408172038.A5624@willinet.net> References: <20010408113104.79FAB36F9@sitemail.everyone.net> <200104081319.f38DJm711384@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> <20010408172038.A5624@willinet.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I agree with what you say, just have to correct a couple of things you don't have to have your mouse in the window you are working on. You can choose from sloppy focus , click focus & auto raise in the config menu. You can also hand edit your menu so you can have things one click / two click away ie putting things commonly used in the root of the menu rather than in accessories -> internet -> etc. you'll find the blackbox menu in /usr/X11R6/share/Blackbox/menu or you can sepcify your own custom menu in your .blackbox.rc Cheers, Mark On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 17:20:38 -0500, Lute Mullenix said: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 08:19:45AM -0500, Mark Sergeant wrote: > > I am not sure of ALT-TAB in twm but in Blackbox using bbkeys it is easy to > > program keys to do whatever you like. I tried enlightenment, windowmaker, > > gnome, kde, cde, twm, fvwm, olm, icewm, sawfish & blackbox and the wm I always > > came back to was Blackbox, small codebase, Clean and fast... what more do you > > need ? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mark > > > I am not sure how hard it would be to change it, but the main thing I > have against blackbox is that it wanted me to have the mouse pointer in > the window to use the window. I didn't like that. I also like the > toolbar on icewm where my most used apps are just a single click away, > rather digging through a menu to get to it, and if you don't want to > look at it all the time, (but I sort of like the clock, CPU, and ppp > monitors.) simply auto hide it. I do have to say the blackbox has a > very attractive appearance, and did consider if for a while, but in the > end for the slightly larger foot print, and convienence of ice. > > I think the best advice is to just try them all, and choose the one > that feels best to you, after all isn't that what most of us have done? > -- Take everything in stride. Trample anyone who gets in your way. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 8 17:18: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0C537B422 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 17:17:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p113.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.113]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA205618; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 02:17:55 +0200 Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13793; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 22:15:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 22:15:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: Mark Sergeant Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ports In-Reply-To: <200104081319.f38DJm711384@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > came back to was Blackbox, small codebase, Clean and fast... what more do you > need ? Nothing, you are right ;-) Sometimes less is more. But maybe, if I had a better monitor, I would use something more fancy too. Somebody gave me an Indy, this thing really looks great. Very minimal too, but with a desktop, where you can place icons. H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 9 1: 7:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web11803.mail.yahoo.com (web11803.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E082337B424 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 01:07:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philippebresoux@yahoo.fr) Message-ID: <20010409080726.13031.qmail@web11803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.121.103.49] by web11803.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:07:26 CEST Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:07:26 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Philippe=20Bresoux?= Subject: Samba server To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I need you help for a Samba problem... I've configured a Samba Server on my computer (following the installation procedure). But each time I'm accessing the network, I receive this message : "inetd[125] : /usr/local/sbin/nmbd[xxx] : exit status 0x100" where xxx is increasing second by second !!!! I've also installed the Sharity-Light port (FreeBSD -> MS) which is running correctly, except that I also receive the Samba message (after each network access) Any suggestions ??!! Tanx Phil. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Pour dialoguer en direct avec vos amis, Yahoo! 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 9 5:21: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web11805.mail.yahoo.com (web11805.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 138F637B422 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 05:21:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philippebresoux@yahoo.fr) Message-ID: <20010409122059.78333.qmail@web11805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.121.103.49] by web11805.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:20:59 CEST Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:20:59 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Philippe=20Bresoux?= Subject: amd To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, Sometimes I receive the following message : "amd[108]: Unknow host: .directory" Any suggestions ? Tanx. 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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0C11E.4B00D7E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 9 10:31:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376BE37B422 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:31:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA212C; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:36:37 -0700 Message-ID: <3AD1F1E5.37CC1704@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:31:17 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sphinX@euromedia.ro Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: browzers References: <20010408095444.43C1F274E@sitemail.everyone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org sphin X wrote: > does anyone know how to go around the netscape problem? i'd be gratefull for answers cause > i'm on 56k and cant just download huge ports just to try them out. > > is there any other fast, but full featured, browzer i can get??? Give Konqueror a shot. It's part of KDE (2), so you will need to install kdelibs and kdebase. But since I've installed KDE-2, I haven't been using Netscape at all, except for those "netscape-only" sites that really mean it. It it full featured, supports CSS, Java, ECMA (javascript), Netscape plugins, etc. The only problems I've had have been with Netscape plugins. Since these are typically Linux binaries, they won't work in the FreeBSD process space of Konqueror. It's a small price though. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 9 11:59:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net [129.250.36.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B12837B42C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:59:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yong@csfi.com) Received: from [129.250.38.56] (helo=dfw-corpmmp1.email.verio.net) by dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net with esmtp id 14mgsZ-00046U-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 18:59:11 +0000 Received: from [204.1.38.26] (helo=yongdell) by dfw-corpmmp1.email.verio.net with smtp id 14mgsY-0001x5-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 18:59:10 +0000 From: "Yong Lim" To: Subject: can't load kernal... Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:00:58 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3AD1F1E5.37CC1704@acuson.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know am asking in the wrong list; but I just need some info if someone has encounter this before. I have installed 4.0 and was able to bring it up without problem. I just got an new system and installed 4.2 and now it says it "can't load kernal" and "can't load kernal.old". This is a brand new install, not build a new kernal. Anyone know where I should look to find the problem? Yong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 9 16:36: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from intrigue.willinet.net (intrigue.willinet.net [198.49.30.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A87E437B423 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:36:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lute@willinet.net) Received: (qmail 3487 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2001 18:35:59 -0500 Received: from ps74sux.willinet.net (HELO gomer) (205.163.104.89) by intrigue.willinet.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2001 18:35:59 -0500 Received: from lute by gomer with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14ml5N-0003ah-00; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 18:28:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:28:41 -0500 From: Lute Mullenix To: David Johnson , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: browzers Message-ID: <20010409182841.B13782@willinet.net> Reply-To: lute@willinet.net References: <20010408095444.43C1F274E@sitemail.everyone.net> <3AD1F1E5.37CC1704@acuson.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AD1F1E5.37CC1704@acuson.com>; from djohnson@acuson.com on Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 10:31:17AM -0700 X-Spam-Rating: intrigue.willinet.net 1.6.2 0/0/N Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 10:31:17AM -0700, David Johnson wrote: > > Give Konqueror a shot. It's part of KDE (2), so you will need to install > kdelibs and kdebase. But since I've installed KDE-2, I haven't been > using Netscape at all, except for those "netscape-only" sites that > really mean it. It it full featured, supports CSS, Java, ECMA > (javascript), Netscape plugins, etc. > > The only problems I've had have been with Netscape plugins. Since these > are typically Linux binaries, they won't work in the FreeBSD process > space of Konqueror. It's a small price though. > Hi David, I have been wondering about that, I don't particularly like KDE but I do like the apps that come with it, have used the address book and calendar for a long time and both of the editors, the cd player, well you get the idea, but I do this all just on top of Icewm, and just on Linux so far, just getting started with FreeBSD, and hope to migrate to it completely by the end of the year. I really would like to try Kword the word processor that is supposed to be in the Koffice suite, but don't really want to load the full KDE install unless I have to, since I won't use it. Any idea of just how much a fellow would have to install to get the apps up and running? -- >Lute< Hey! It happens. Well it does... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 9 16:53: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19EC37B422 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:53:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA19B7; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:58:24 -0700 Message-ID: <3AD24B5C.5113E871@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 16:53:00 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lute@willinet.net Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: browzers References: <20010408095444.43C1F274E@sitemail.everyone.net> <3AD1F1E5.37CC1704@acuson.com> <20010409182841.B13782@willinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Lute Mullenix wrote: > I have been wondering about that, I don't particularly like KDE but I > do like the apps that come with it, have used the address book and > calendar for a long time and both of the editors, the cd player, well > you get the idea, but I do this all just on top of Icewm, and just on > Linux so far, just getting started with FreeBSD, and hope to migrate to > it completely by the end of the year. I really would like to try Kword > the word processor that is supposed to be in the Koffice suite, but > don't really want to load the full KDE install unless I have to, since > I won't use it. Any idea of just how much a fellow would have to > install to get the apps up and running? I would wait for KWord. It's still alpha quality. But somehow, being included with KDE makes people think it's finished. In any case, all you would need to run most KDE applications is qt2, kdesupport, and kdelibs. For the rest of them, you will need to add kdebase. No need to install kdeadmin, kdegames, kdenetwork, etc. Useful, but not necessary, are java and openssl for Konqueror. I think Konqueror alone is well worth the price of these additional libraries. It's like taking the best of NS/IE/WE without all of the kruft. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 9 23:45: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from rm-rstar.sfu.ca (rm-rstar.sfu.ca [142.58.120.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC92137B43C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:45:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pwen@sfu.ca) Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (pwen@fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.101.25]) by rm-rstar.sfu.ca (8.10.1/8.10.1/SFU-5.0H) with ESMTP id f3A6j3q28866 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (pwen@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFU-5.0C) with ESMTP id XAA05519 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:45:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fraser.sfu.ca: pwen owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:45:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Charley Wen To: Subject: Can't start X-window/KDE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi After installing FreeBSD 4.2 on my PC I found I couldn't start X-window nor could I launch KDE. I remember that I was guided by the installation wizard to set up XFree86. but here's what I got from the command line interface after my PC boot up. after I issued 'startx', I saw : Fatal server error: xf860 penConsole:KDENABIO failed (Operation not permitted) X Connection to :0.0 broken. and I saw a number of "Entry deleted from font path". e.g. (Entry deleted from font path. Run 'mkfontdir' on '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/speedo") Warning: 'font.dir' not found in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi ... when issuing 'kde' from the cli, I got kcontrolL cannot connect to X server etc and I saw a number of "Entry deleted from font path". e.g. isn't X-server started when the machine boots up? could anyone please help me out? thanks Charley To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 4:16:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub5.isdnet.net (mailhub5.isdnet.net [195.154.209.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095D937B42C for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 04:16:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wstart02@caramail.com) Received: from blog ([195.154.47.211]) by mailhub5.isdnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA60516 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:16:30 +0200 (CEST) From: wstart02@caramail.com Message-Id: <200104101116.NAA60516@mailhub5.isdnet.net> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:38:51 PDT Subject: Milna - le moteur de contenu - par wStart.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Untitled Document
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http://www.intellitec.net/remove/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 4:23: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gargoyle.apana.org.au (gargoyle-xl0.apana.org.au [210.215.3.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F7037B422 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 04:22:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gargoyle.apana.org.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3ABOAB20829; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:24:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from bryden.apana.org.au(203.3.126.129), claiming to be "kurley" via SMTP by gargoyle.apana.org.au, id smtpdu5bCuM; Tue Apr 10 21:24:01 2001 Message-ID: <01ab01c0c1af$d109eca0$8683fea9@kurley> From: "Doug Young" To: , References: <200104101116.NAA60516@mailhub5.isdnet.net> Subject: Re: Milna - le moteur de contenu - par wStart.com Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:17:20 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A8_01C0C203.A11B8680" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01A8_01C0C203.A11B8680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Untitled DocumentHmmmmm ..... now if this was posted in english a few = people might understand what its all on about :) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: wstart02@caramail.com=20 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:38 AM Subject: Milna - le moteur de contenu - par wStart.com D=E9couvrez Milna, le moteur de contenu personnalisable par wStart.com Milna permet aux visiteurs de votre site Internet ou intranet = d'interroger en langage naturel, =E0 travers une simple bo=EEte = d'interrogation textuelle, des sources (bases de donn=E9es, html, pdf, = etc.) r=E9f=E9renc=E9es et g=E9r=E9es par vos soins, ou propos=E9es par = wStart. Milna, enti=E8rement personnalisable, contient des outils = performants de statistiques, d'analyse et de fid=E9lisation des = visiteurs.=20 Informations : http://www.wstart.com Avec le Pack Milna gratuit, cr=E9ez en quelques clics votre portail de = contenu Il acc=E8de =E0 plusieurs centaines de bases de donn=E9es du web = pratique, r=E9f=E9renc=E9es et maintenues par wStart. Testez-le = ci-dessous. Si vous lisez ce document sur une messagerie Web (hotmail, etc.) = certaines fonctions de la partie suivante seront inop=E9rantes. Dans ce = cas, allez directement sur http://www.wstart.com . =20 par wStart.com =20 le moteur de contenu personnalisable=20 Posez une question ou cliquez un th=E8me pour obtenir un exemple = modifiable =20 =20 Infos Actualit=E9s M=E9t=E9o T=E9l=E9vision Annuaires = Adresse Code postal Email Transports Avion Train M=E9tro Entreprises = Bourse Bilan Emploi Formation Informatique Logiciels Tutoriels Linux = HTML Acheter Immobilier Automobile Comparer Connaissance D=E9finition = Orthographe Encyclop=E9die Traduction =20 =20 Offrez =E0 votre site Internet ou intranet le moteur de contenu qu'il m=E9rite =20 Informations Description, exemples, offre Pack Milna gratuit Portail ASP cl=E9s en main=20 R=E9f=E9rencez les sources de votre choix, quel que soit leur = type=20 Interrogation en langage naturel de tout type de bases de = donn=E9es, internes =E0 votre site ou sur le web (technologie exclusive = wStart) =20 Indexation de documents full-text - html, pdf, etc. - par = int=E9gration transparente des moteurs de votre choix (livr=E9 avec = Google)=20 Apprenez =E0 conna=EEtre vos visiteurs pour mieux les = fid=E9liser =20 Etats date =E0 date avec regroupements libres pour une analyse = quantitative de la fr=E9quentation.=20 Tra=E7age individualis=E9 de toutes les questions et analyse = qualitative des r=E9ponses apport=E9es.=20 Fonctions int=E9gr=E9es de fid=E9lisation : newsletter, FAQ, = avis, suggestions.=20 Int=E9grez les ressources d=E9j=E0 r=E9f=E9renc=E9es par = wStart.com=20 wStart.com met =E0 votre disposition les r=E9f=E9rencements de = plusieurs centaines de bases de donn=E9es. Ils sont int=E9gr=E9s par = th=E8mes (voir ci-contre) dans votre moteur de contenu. =20 Milna s'int=E8gre en un clin d'oeil dans votre site=20 Gr=E2ce =E0 ses puissants outils de personnalisation, Milna se = fond de mani=E8re compl=E8tement transparente dans votre site Internet = ou intranet. =20 Les r=E9f=E9renceurs de wStart sont =E0 votre service =20 L'=E9quipe technique de wStart assure une gamme de services qui = vont de la formation =E0 la journ=E9e jusqu'=E0 la prise en charge = compl=E8te du d=E9veloppement de votre moteur de contenu. =20 ___________________________________=20 Si vous ne d=E9sirez plus recevoir de courriers de cette liste :=20 To remove your email address from this list :=20 http://www.intellitec.net/remove/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to = majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of = the message=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01A8_01C0C203.A11B8680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Untitled Document
Hmmmmm ..... now if this was posted in = english a=20 few people might understand
what its all on about :)
 
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Subject: Milna - le moteur de = contenu -=20 par wStart.com

D=E9couvrez Milna, le moteur de contenu personnalisable par=20 wStart.com
Milna permet aux visiteurs de votre = site Internet=20 ou intranet d'interroger en langage naturel, =E0 travers une simple = bo=EEte=20 d'interrogation textuelle, des sources (bases de donn=E9es, html, pdf, = etc.)=20 r=E9f=E9renc=E9es et g=E9r=E9es par vos soins, ou propos=E9es par = wStart. Milna,=20 enti=E8rement personnalisable, contient des outils performants de = statistiques,=20 d'analyse et de fid=E9lisation des visiteurs. 
Informations : http://www.wstart.com
 
Avec le Pack Milna = gratuit, cr=E9ez en=20 quelques clics votre portail de contenu
Il acc=E8de =E0 plusieurs centaines = de bases de=20 donn=E9es du web pratique, r=E9f=E9renc=E9es et maintenues par wStart. = Testez-le=20 ci-dessous.
 
Si vous lisez ce document sur une = messagerie=20 Web (hotmail, etc.)  certaines fonctions de la partie suivante = seront=20 inop=E9rantes. Dans ce cas, allez directement sur http://www.wstart.com = .

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= Infos Actualit=E9s = M=E9t=E9o Annuaires Adresse=20 Transports = Avion=20 =20 Entreprises Bourse Bilan Emploi Formation=20 Logiciels=20 HTML Acheter Immobilier=20 =20 =20 D=E9finition Orthographe Encyclop=E9die = Traduction
 

Offrez =E0 votre site Internet ou intranet
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Informations
Description,=20 exemples, offre		 Pack Milna=20 gratuit
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Indexation de documents full-text - html, pdf, = etc. - par=20 int=E9gration transparente des moteurs de votre choix (livr=E9 = avec=20 Google)
Apprenez =E0 conna=EEtre vos visiteurs pour = mieux les=20 fid=E9liser
Etats date =E0 = date avec=20 regroupements libres pour une analyse quantitative de la=20 fr=E9quentation.
Tra=E7age individualis=E9 de toutes les questions et = analyse=20 qualitative des r=E9ponses apport=E9es.
Fonctions int=E9gr=E9es de fid=E9lisation : = newsletter, FAQ,=20 avis, suggestions.
Int=E9grez les ressources = d=E9j=E0 r=E9f=E9renc=E9es=20 par wStart.com

wStart.com met =E0=20 votre disposition les r=E9f=E9rencements de plusieurs centaines = de bases de=20 donn=E9es. Ils sont int=E9gr=E9s par th=E8mes (voir ci-contre) = dans votre moteur=20 de contenu.

Milna s'int=E8gre en un clin = d'oeil dans=20 votre site

Gr=E2ce = =E0 ses=20 puissants outils de personnalisation, Milna se fond de = mani=E8re=20 compl=E8tement transparente dans votre site Internet ou=20 intranet.

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L'=E9quipe technique=20 de wStart assure une gamme de services qui vont de la formation = =E0 la=20 journ=E9e jusqu'=E0 la prise en charge compl=E8te du = d=E9veloppement de votre=20 moteur de contenu.

 


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http://www.intellitec.net/remo= ve/=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe=20 freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message = ------=_NextPart_000_01A8_01C0C203.A11B8680-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 5: 7:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from intrigue.willinet.net (intrigue.willinet.net [198.49.30.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9CEB37B43C for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 05:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lute@willinet.net) Received: (qmail 10381 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2001 07:07:27 -0500 Received: from ps13sux.willinet.net (HELO gomer) (205.163.104.14) by intrigue.willinet.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 2001 07:07:27 -0500 Received: from lute by gomer with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14mwoV-0003hl-00 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:00:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:00:03 -0500 From: Lute Mullenix To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Milna - le moteur de contenu - par wStart.com Message-ID: <20010410070003.A14203@willinet.net> Reply-To: lute@willinet.net References: <200104101116.NAA60516@mailhub5.isdnet.net> <01ab01c0c1af$d109eca0$8683fea9@kurley> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01ab01c0c1af$d109eca0$8683fea9@kurley>; from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au on Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 09:17:20PM +1000 X-Spam-Rating: intrigue.willinet.net 1.6.2 0/0/N Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 09:17:20PM +1000, Doug Young wrote: > Untitled DocumentHmmmmm ..... now if this was posted in english a few people might understand > what its all on about :) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wstart02@caramail.com > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:38 AM > Subject: Milna - le moteur de contenu - par wStart.com > > > Découvrez Milna, le moteur de contenu personnalisable par wStart.com > Milna permet aux visiteurs de votre site Internet ou intranet d'interroger en langage naturel, à travers une simple boîte d'interrogation textuelle, des sources (bases de données, html, pdf, etc.) référencées et gérées par vos soins, ou proposées par wStart. Milna, entièrement personnalisable, contient des outils performants de statistiques, d'analyse et de fidélisation des visiteurs. > Informations : http://www.wstart.com > > Avec le Pack Milna gratuit, créez en quelques clics votre portail de contenu > Il accède à plusieurs centaines de bases de données du web pratique, référencées et maintenues par wStart. Testez-le ci-dessous. > > Si vous lisez ce document sur une messagerie Web (hotmail, etc.) certaines fonctions de la partie suivante seront inopérantes. Dans ce cas, allez directement sur http://www.wstart.com . > > par wStart.com > le moteur de contenu > personnalisable (Major snipage.) Heck, couldn't read it but it's cool that Mutt shows all the little accent marks. And to think my ancestors came from France, how quickly we forget. -- >Lute< Hey! It happens. Well it does... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 5:35:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from knatte.tninet.se (knatte.tninet.se [195.100.94.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E607137B42C for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 05:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from borg@alfa.telenordia.se) Received: (qmail 5091 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2001 14:35:46 +0200 Received: from garibaldi.tninet.se (HELO algonet.se) (195.100.94.103) by knatte.tninet.se with SMTP; 10 Apr 2001 14:35:46 +0200 Received: from oden.mydomain.se (sdu226-201.ppp.algonet.se [195.163.201.226]) by garibaldi.tninet.se (BLUETAIL Mail Robustifier 2.2.2) with ESMTP id 603632.906145.986garibaldi-s1 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:35:45 +0200 From: janne To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:36:48 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041014371600.00653@oden.mydomain.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-newbies To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 8: 8:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f97.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBD937B422 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:08:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fabiobenavides@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:08:08 -0700 Received: from 196.40.21.132 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:08:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [196.40.21.132] From: "Fabio Benavides" To: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Help Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:08:08 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Apr 2001 15:08:08.0646 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D468E60:01C0C1D0] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hola soy estudiante de ingenieria en computacion. y necesito informacion de como conectar un microsoft exchange con un servidor de mail en freeBSD. Me puede ayudar???? Hello, i'm a studen of computer. I need information about how i can connect microsoft exchange with a server of mail in freeBSD. can u help me??? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 9:52:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mgateway.borderware.com (mgateway.borderware.com [207.236.65.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEC337B422 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:52:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cmills@borderware.com) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010410125114.0096e100@clapton> X-Sender: clarence@clapton X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:51:50 -0500 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: clarence mills Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 10: 8:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9477937B43C for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:08:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA20E2; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:13:56 -0700 Message-ID: <3AD33E12.801A8651@acuson.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:08:34 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charley Wen Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't start X-window/KDE References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Charley Wen wrote: > after I issued 'startx', I saw : > Fatal server error: xf860 penConsole:KDENABIO failed (Operation not > permitted) X Connection to :0.0 broken. You cannot run X11 if the security level is too high. You need to run sysinstall and lower it. Beware of the consequences of doing so! IMHO, this needs to be explained at the appropriate spot during installation. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 11:15:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13703.mail.yahoo.com (web13703.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF4D737B423 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:15:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd_stuff@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010410181536.20760.qmail@web13703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.202.248.57] by web13703.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:15:36 PDT Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:15:36 -0700 (PDT) From: - - Subject: installing RH Linux and FreeBSD on a same machine To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone has installed Linux and FreeBSD on a same machine. If you have or know where I can get a documentation on this issue, please let me know. I'd greatly appreciate your help. Thanks in advance, kero __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 13: 1: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pravda.tenzo.net (h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net [24.69.46.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A37637B422 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:00:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Received: from pravda.tenzo.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pravda.tenzo.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 90FC83F25; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Michael O'Henly Reply-To: michael@tenzo.com Organization: TENZO Design To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't start X-window/KDE Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:00:39 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <3AD33E12.801A8651@acuson.com> In-Reply-To: <3AD33E12.801A8651@acuson.com> Cc: David Johnson MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041013003900.01788@pravda.tenzo.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm not sure whether this is a better solution or not. Here's what I've done. When I su to root and run xemacs, I was getting a similar error. To overcome it without modifying my security level, I added the following to root's .bashrc (replacing username with my normal user account): alias xemacs="XAUTHORITY=~[username]/.Xauthority xemacs" Now I can su to root and run xemacs using the access granted to the normal user. M. On Tuesday 10 April 2001 10:08, David Johnson wrote: > Charley Wen wrote: > > after I issued 'startx', I saw : > > Fatal server error: xf860 penConsole:KDENABIO failed (Operation not > > permitted) X Connection to :0.0 broken. > > You cannot run X11 if the security level is too high. You need to run > sysinstall and lower it. Beware of the consequences of doing so! IMHO, > this needs to be explained at the appropriate spot during installation. > > David > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 14:54:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp1fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649DF37B423; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:54:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmslivko@nyc.rr.com) Received: (apparently) from darkstar ([24.29.134.4]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:58:10 -0400 Message-ID: <010301c0c209$b9fa80b0$01000001@darkstar> From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Cc: Subject: Turtle Beach Montego II -- Drivers anyone? 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------=_NextPart_000_0100_01C0C1E8.317EC960-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 14:57:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp2fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91ABD37B43E; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:57:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmslivko@nyc.rr.com) Received: from darkstar ([24.29.134.4]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:01:06 -0400 Message-ID: <013001c0c20a$22fafef0$01000001@darkstar> From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , Cc: References: <010301c0c209$b9fa80b0$01000001@darkstar> Subject: Re: Turtle Beach Montego II -- Drivers anyone? Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:03:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012D_01C0C1E8.9BD70F70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01C0C1E8.9BD70F70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sorry about that, my fault. - -- Jonathan M. Slivko - ---- Jonathan M. Slivko Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/jmsnyc/ "FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve!" (PGP Key Available on Website) - ---- - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jonathan M. Slivko=20 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 6:00 PM Subject: Turtle Beach Montego II -- Drivers anyone? - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/jmsnyc/ - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOtOCk1CH8ke4aYN4EQIMlwCg3TasdCpJgykp8kIqv/Nz9dxEJY8AoMr0 bJpUUC9kO+/6OQaCV3ynWE+y =3DqqSu - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOtODSFCH8ke4aYN4EQIpMACeOm/ELo8DIF4WR643Fq1Xy0cJGq8AnRYJ RkRPM4dEcVJrUflM+n5cwoQ9 =3DI72f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01C0C1E8.9BD70F70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_012D_01C0C1E8.9BD70F70-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 14:59:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp1fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB50237B422; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:59:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmslivko@nyc.rr.com) Received: (apparently) from darkstar ([24.29.134.4]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:02:49 -0400 Message-ID: <014301c0c20a$609c4750$01000001@darkstar> From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Cc: Subject: Turtle Beach Montego II -- Drivers anyone? Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:05:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0140_01C0C1E8.D81F0960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0140_01C0C1E8.D81F0960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone have (or know of) any compatible drivers for the Turtle Beach Montego II? I would be very interested to find some so I can install FreeBSD on my system with the soundcard being supported. If anyone has any drivers for me, they would be most appreciated. Thanks. - -- Jonathan M. Slivko - ---- Jonathan M. Slivko Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/jmsnyc/ "FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve!" (PGP Key Available on Website) - ---- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOtODrVCH8ke4aYN4EQIYsgCdFjSgl2bqx8lXTNMyI70UiO/MocYAn3ZL l4ew4aCvjtnOQh9uslUMAmcP =3DsuMQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------=_NextPart_000_0140_01C0C1E8.D81F0960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0140_01C0C1E8.D81F0960-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 16:35:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from oddjob.adhesivemedia.com (oddjob.adhesivemedia.com [207.202.159.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE0B37B422; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Received: from localhost (philip@localhost) by oddjob.adhesivemedia.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3ANZ1H15371; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:35:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:35:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Cc: , Subject: Re: Turtle Beach Montego II -- Drivers anyone? In-Reply-To: <014301c0c20a$609c4750$01000001@darkstar> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Check out the "aureal-kmod" port and this url. http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~matey/au88x0/ It works very well for me... I have the Montego I (it says it will do both). On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Does anyone have (or know of) any compatible drivers for the Turtle > Beach Montego II? I would be very interested to find some so I can > install FreeBSD on my system with the soundcard being supported. If > anyone has any drivers for me, they would be most appreciated. > Thanks. > > - -- Jonathan M. Slivko > > - ---- > Jonathan M. Slivko > Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services > Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/jmsnyc/ > > "FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve!" > (PGP Key Available on Website) > - ---- > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use > > iQA/AwUBOtODrVCH8ke4aYN4EQIYsgCdFjSgl2bqx8lXTNMyI70UiO/MocYAn3ZL > l4ew4aCvjtnOQh9uslUMAmcP > =suMQ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 19:14:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.pace.edu (ntutil.pace.edu [205.232.111.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C9837B423; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:14:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from js43064n@stmail.pace.edu) Received: from stmail.pace.edu (205.232.111.7:1059) by smtp.pace.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.A886C7EE@smtp.pace.edu>; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:14:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:14:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200104102214.AA684851824@stmail.pace.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Jonathan Slivko" Reply-To: To: "FreeBSD Newbies Mailing List" , "FreeBSD Questions Mailing List" Subject: PGP 7.0.3 Freeware X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To whomever e-mailed me in private before, I lost your e-mail address. However, the software (for Windows) is available at www.pgpi.org. Hope this helps. -- Jonathan M. Slivko -- Jonathan M. Slivko Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services Phone: 212-663-1109 Pager: 917-388-5304 "FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve!" -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 10 21:13:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web11603.mail.yahoo.com (web11603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 502E537B423 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:13:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon_v_mendoza@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010411041316.96052.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.245.182.112] by web11603.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:13:16 PDT Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:13:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Mendoza Subject: Re: Help To: Fabio Benavides , FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fabio: La verdad es que tu pregunta es bastante generica para ser respondida. Primero debes averiguar cual servidor de correos en FBSD vas a utilizar. Luego debes averiguar en la documentacion de Microsoft exchange que tipos de servidores soporta y si de esos hay alguno en FBSD que te pueda servir. Tu pregunta es algo asi como si por ejemplo te preguntara que "windows" usa "unix", como veras hay que aclarar primero lo que se pretende. Segundo, en esta lista de correos no se responden preguntas tecnicas, para ello tienes una lista de correos especializadas solo en preguntas. Para mejor referencia busca en la pagina de www.freebsd.org haz click en Support-->mailing lists y luego haz click en SEARCH y alli puedes hacer tu pregunta. Te recomiendo la lista en espan~ol por si tu ingles no es muy proficiente. Espero que esta informacion te sirva de algo, si necesitas mas informacion sobre otros links relacionados con freebsd puedes requerirlos sin problemas en esta lista, pero no nformacion tecnica (esto dado a que se asume la existencia de una lista para dichos topicos) Saludos Simon --- Fabio Benavides wrote: > Hola soy estudiante de ingenieria en computacion. y > necesito informacion de > como conectar un microsoft exchange con un servidor > de mail en freeBSD. > > Me puede ayudar???? > > Hello, i'm a studen of computer. I need information > about how i can connect > microsoft exchange with a server of mail in freeBSD. > > can u help me??? > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 11 4:27:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from filer.fr.clara.net (filer.fr.clara.net [212.43.194.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6179137B423 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 04:27:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james@fr.clara.net) Received: from munster.noc.fr.clara.net (munster.noc.fr.clara.net [212.43.195.20]) by filer.fr.clara.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBCE349B for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:27:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:27:36 +0200 (CEST) From: James Tapping X-Sender: james@munster.noc.fr.clara.net To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: CVSup questions. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I have a few problems understanging what CVSup actually does for me despite reading the handbook and everything else I could find :-) I am using a FreeBSD 4.2 release and I have managed to compile a kernel. I have used the following supfile. *default tag=RELENG_4 *default host=cvsup.fr.FreeBSD.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress ports-all src-all Done: cvsup supfile This downloaded loaded loads of files, and deleted a lot more in /usr/ports. Leaving me with no ports. I had to do /stand/sysinstall to get them back. Another thing that I don't get is that, for example with proftp, the current version seems to be the 1.2.2, but I have the 1.2.0. HOw and when will the update of proftp take place ?? Confused? Thanks James To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 11 5:57:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8413837B43E for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:57:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 13930 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2001 12:57:24 -0000 Received: from pd950a1c0.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO lofizwei) (217.80.161.192) by mail.gmx.net (mp013-rz3) with SMTP; 11 Apr 2001 12:57:24 -0000 Message-ID: <006601c0c286$f4cdad20$0508a8c0@lofi.dyndns.org> From: "Michael Nottebrock" To: "James Tapping" , References: Subject: Re: CVSup questions. Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:57:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Tapping" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:27 PM Subject: CVSup questions. > Hello > > I have a few problems understanging what CVSup actually does for me > despite reading the handbook and everything else I could find :-) > > I am using a FreeBSD 4.2 release and I have managed to compile a > kernel. > > I have used the following supfile. > > [...] > > Done: cvsup supfile > > This downloaded loaded loads of files, and deleted a lot more in > /usr/ports. > > Leaving me with no ports. I had to do /stand/sysinstall to get them > back. > > Another thing that I don't get is that, for example with proftp, the > current version seems to be the 1.2.2, but I have the 1.2.0. > > [...] It left you with no ports? That's strange, indeed, especially since your supfile looks quite correct. But you might want to try this: You should have quite a few example supfiles in /usr/share/examples/cvsup. Copy over 'ports-supfile' from there, modify the *default host line to your nearest mirror and it should work fine. At least, it did for me yesterday. :) If your ports-collection update was succesfull, you will also notice that in the latest ports-collection, the proftpd port is of version 1.2.2rc1. If you want to upgrade your whole source tree (in order to upgrade your FreeBSD to the latest STABLE or CURRENT version), use the stable-supfile (for the STABLE branch) or the standard-supfile (for the (experimental) CURRENT branch) which also can be found in /usr/share/examples/cvsup. Make sure to read /usr/src/UPDATING after you cvsup'd everything and before starting the actual upgrade - it contains some revision history/changes and (if you scroll down a bit) step-by-step instructions how to upgrade. Greetings and good luck, Michael Nottebrock To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 11 6:31:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from filer.fr.clara.net (filer.fr.clara.net [212.43.194.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83F537B423 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 06:31:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james@fr.clara.net) Received: from munster.noc.fr.clara.net (munster.noc.fr.clara.net [212.43.195.20]) by filer.fr.clara.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5530439C1; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:31:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:31:52 +0200 (CEST) From: James Tapping X-Sender: james@munster.noc.fr.clara.net To: Michael Nottebrock Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup questions. In-Reply-To: <006601c0c286$f4cdad20$0508a8c0@lofi.dyndns.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Firstly, Thanks very much for your help. I rather daftly constructed my supfile from the stable-supfile :-) Could you possible send me yours? > If your ports-collection update was succesfull, you will > also notice that in the latest ports-collection, the proftpd port is > of version 1.2.2rc1. I'm not there yet but, will I have to do a make deinstall && make reinstall for the version to change? > Copy over 'ports-supfile' from there, modify the *default host line to > your nearest mirror and it should work fine. At least, it did for me > yesterday. :) I am in the middle of doing it :-) Cheers On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Tapping" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:27 PM > Subject: CVSup questions. > > > Hello > > > > I have a few problems understanging what CVSup actually does for me > > despite reading the handbook and everything else I could find :-) > > > > I am using a FreeBSD 4.2 release and I have managed to compile a > > kernel. > > > > I have used the following supfile. > > > > [...] > > > > Done: cvsup supfile > > > > This downloaded loaded loads of files, and deleted a lot more in > > /usr/ports. > > > > Leaving me with no ports. I had to do /stand/sysinstall to get them > > back. > > > > Another thing that I don't get is that, for example with proftp, the > > current version seems to be the 1.2.2, but I have the 1.2.0. > > > > [...] > > It left you with no ports? That's strange, indeed, especially since > your supfile looks quite correct. But you might want to try this: You > should have quite a few example supfiles in /usr/share/examples/cvsup. > Copy over 'ports-supfile' from there, modify the *default host line to > your nearest mirror and it should work fine. At least, it did for me > yesterday. :) If your ports-collection update was succesfull, you will > also notice that in the latest ports-collection, the proftpd port is > of version 1.2.2rc1. > > If you want to upgrade your whole source tree (in order to upgrade > your FreeBSD to the latest STABLE or CURRENT version), use the > stable-supfile (for the STABLE branch) or the standard-supfile (for > the (experimental) CURRENT branch) which also can be found in > /usr/share/examples/cvsup. Make sure to read /usr/src/UPDATING after > you cvsup'd everything and before starting the actual upgrade - it > contains some revision history/changes and (if you scroll down a bit) > step-by-step instructions how to upgrade. > > > Greetings and good luck, > > Michael Nottebrock > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 11 8:23:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.dnai.com (atlas.dnai.com [207.181.194.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCFD37B422 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:23:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adam@alameda.edu) Received: from azoth.dnai.com (azoth.dnai.com [207.181.194.94]) by atlas.dnai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA47427 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teru.dyndns.org (207-172-166-249.s249.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.166.249]) by azoth.dnai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA48883 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Adam Kranzel To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup Questions Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:23:33 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041108233300.02144@teru.dyndns.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 'morning >*default tag=RELENG_4 This line is your problem: Ports are not branched, the only branch is . (HEAD). If you specify a different branch tag, it will remove everything not on that branch (i.e. everything). You need to specify tag=. for ports, however doing this for source will give you the -current sources, which you probably don't want. *checks manpages* It looks like you can simply specify a tag for each collection, like so: Example supfile: *default host=cvsup8.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all tag=RELENG_4 ports-all tag=. hope this helps -Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 11 8:32:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from filer.fr.clara.net (filer.fr.clara.net [212.43.194.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC8E37B422 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:32:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james@fr.clara.net) Received: from munster.noc.fr.clara.net (munster.noc.fr.clara.net [212.43.195.20]) by filer.fr.clara.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818973858; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:32:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:32:33 +0200 (CEST) From: James Tapping X-Sender: james@munster.noc.fr.clara.net To: Adam Kranzel Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup Questions In-Reply-To: <01041108233300.02144@teru.dyndns.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for clearing that up for me... I have managed to get it ok, I am still a bit confused about when the actual updates of ports are or can be done. I updated proftpd for example. With Make deinstall make install (and a make clean somewhere) is there not a update everything button :-) I come from the debian world :-) James On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Adam Kranzel wrote: > 'morning > > > >*default tag=RELENG_4 > > This line is your problem: > Ports are not branched, the only branch is . (HEAD). > If you specify a different branch tag, it will remove everything not on that > branch (i.e. everything). > > You need to specify tag=. for ports, however doing this for source will give > you the -current sources, which you probably don't want. > *checks manpages* > It looks like you can simply specify a tag for each collection, like so: > > Example supfile: > > *default host=cvsup8.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default delete use-rel-suffix > > src-all tag=RELENG_4 > ports-all tag=. > > hope this helps > -Adam > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 11 8:59:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3AD137B422 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:59:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 4156 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2001 15:59:08 -0000 Received: from pd950a3a5.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO lofizwei) (217.80.163.165) by mail.gmx.net (mp021-rz3) with SMTP; 11 Apr 2001 15:59:08 -0000 Message-ID: <004601c0c2a0$58708960$0508a8c0@lofi.dyndns.org> From: "Michael Nottebrock" To: "James Tapping" , "Adam Kranzel" Cc: References: Subject: Re: CVSup Questions Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:59:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Tapping" To: "Adam Kranzel" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:32 PM Subject: Re: CVSup Questions > I have managed to get it ok, I am still a bit confused about when the > actual updates of ports are or can be done. I updated proftpd for > example. With Make deinstall make install (and a make clean somewhere) is > there not a update everything button :-) I come from the debian world :-) There is, it's just a quite freaky button. Issue a 'pkg_version -cl'<' | grep -v echo | grep -v exit | sh' as root. This queries the package database (which includes installed ports), returns all necessary commands for upgrading those ports which are not up to date, and pipes the output to sh. Result: All ports & packages which are newer than the ones installed get rebuilt and installed. See http://www.freebsddiary.org/pkg_version.html for details. Greetings, Michael Nottebrock To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 11 11:32:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.fr.clara.net (lorraine.fr.clara.net [212.43.194.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0288237B422 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:32:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james@fr.clara.net) Received: from munster.noc.fr.clara.net (munster.noc.fr.clara.net [212.43.195.20]) by mail2.fr.clara.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE1535AEC; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:32:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:32:36 +0200 (CEST) From: James Tapping X-Sender: james@munster.noc.fr.clara.net To: Michael Nottebrock Cc: Adam Kranzel , newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup Question In-Reply-To: <004601c0c2a0$58708960$0508a8c0@lofi.dyndns.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks I will give it a go. James On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Tapping" > To: "Adam Kranzel" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:32 PM > Subject: Re: CVSup Questions > > > > I have managed to get it ok, I am still a bit confused about when > the > > actual updates of ports are or can be done. I updated proftpd for > > example. With Make deinstall make install (and a make clean > somewhere) is > > there not a update everything button :-) I come from the debian > world :-) > > There is, it's just a quite freaky button. > > Issue a 'pkg_version -cl'<' | grep -v echo | grep -v exit | sh' as > root. This queries the package database (which includes installed > ports), returns all necessary commands for upgrading those ports which > are not up to date, and pipes the output to sh. Result: All ports & > packages which are newer than the ones installed get rebuilt and > installed. See http://www.freebsddiary.org/pkg_version.html for > details. > > > Greetings, > > Michael Nottebrock > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 11 18:56:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from silverchair.futureks.net (silverchair.futureks.net [209.134.106.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED95037B43F for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:56:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drwho@futureks.net) Received: from futureks.net (IDENT:drwho@smeghead.futureks.net [209.134.106.93]) by silverchair.futureks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA31135 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:56:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3AD50AE2.60B888E5@futureks.net> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:54:43 -0500 From: "Patrick R. Klee" Organization: Bloodline Interactive X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Installing FreeBSD for the first time Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I got FreeBSD 4.2 and I am REALLY excited about installing it, but I have a problem. I went through the trouble of installing it, but thinking it will work when it reboots, the error I get is, I think, "No MBR found." I know there are two options, "Install FreeBSD boot manager." and "Install a standard boot manager." But, I have tried both and it still can't find the MBR, or kernel. I need some help, because I have been using Red Hat Linux since 4.2 and want to use FreeBSD, but, the install doesn't baffle me but yet, once I get the MBR thing figured out, I could have something REALLY specatcular. Here's one more thing. I have 2 drives. 1.2 gig and 1.0 gig. Maybe that's another thing with the MBR, I don't know what drive or even what directory to put them in. Can someone give me an example of what directories to have, and how much space for each one, like ( / - 65MB) Regards, Patrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Apr 12 0:44:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from speedbuggy.telerama.com (speedbuggy.telerama.com [205.201.1.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 670EE37B61A for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:44:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhodespc@telerama.com) Received: (qmail 3320 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2001 07:44:33 -0000 Received: from rhodespc.dsl.telerama.com (HELO home1.telerama.com) (205.201.10.60) by speedbuggy.telerama.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 2001 07:44:33 -0000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010412033429.00a90b10@dns1.rhoderunner.com> X-Sender: rhodespc@mail.telerama.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 03:39:43 -0400 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Phillip Rhodes Subject: Upgrade from FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE safely and remotely? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Currently, my computer (which is co-located) is running FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE I would like to upgrade it to a more recent release, but I don't have access to the console. I can telnet, etc, ... but I can't sit in front of it in the case something goes wrong. Is there a way I can upgrade from FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE remotely and safely? Would appreciate any pointers to How-to's! Thanks. Phillip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Apr 12 8: 3:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail01.domainbank.com (mail.domainbank.com [209.92.184.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50AA37B43F for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 08:03:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdmiller@domainbank.com) Received: from mordor (mordor.domainbank.com [192.168.2.18]) by mail01.domainbank.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.5.186) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:03:56 -0400 Message-ID: <01e501c0c361$cb874da0$1202a8c0@domainbank.com> From: "Jeff Miller" To: "BSD-Newbies List" Subject: Steps to make sure I have proper Voodoo3 support Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:03:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone give me specific steps to follow to ensure that I have the best support for my Voodoo3 2000: 1. built into my kernel (if necessary) 2. loading correctly as a module (if need be) 3. have the proper libraries installed for BSD and Linux support Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've looked around the net and found info, but it just seems a bit dated to me (maybe I'm wrong). I rebuild my BSD box everyday (I beat it up that much, only because I want to learn and because once you get conditioned to re-install an OS after you've monkey'd w/ it for a while (thanks M$) it's a hard habit to break. Once I get the install the way I like it, I'll leave it alone. TIA Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Apr 12 14:30: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCD537B423 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA64674; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:27:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Phillip Rhodes Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade from FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE safely and remotely? In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010412033429.00a90b10@dns1.rhoderunner.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The upgrading instructions are always in /usr/src/UPDATING, and there's a section there on going from 3.4 to 4.x. This requires a reboot into single user mode, which you cannot do, of course, remotely. I don't think there's any safe way to do this. Even if it did not require a reboot into single user (which may be essential in this case, although it often isn't), there are other traps: e.g., there's a new version of sendmail and its files have some new locations. You get /usr/src/* when you cvsup to get sources. The upgrading problem is dealt with regularly on freebsd-stable, and you should search that mailing list or subscribe to it before doing anything here. Annelise On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > Currently, my computer (which is co-located) is running FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE > > I would like to upgrade it to a more recent release, but I don't have > access to the console. I can telnet, etc, ... but I can't sit in front of > it in the case something goes wrong. > > Is there a way I can upgrade from FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE remotely and safely? > > Would appreciate any pointers to How-to's! > > Thanks. > Phillip > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Apr 12 14:33:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB6C37B43F for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:33:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA64693; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:31:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: - - Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing RH Linux and FreeBSD on a same machine In-Reply-To: <20010410181536.20760.qmail@web13703.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just responded to a question on the topic on freebsd-questions. I've done it--it's definitely possible. Annelise On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, - - wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm wondering if anyone has installed Linux and > FreeBSD on a same machine. If you have or know where > I can get a documentation on this issue, please let me > know. I'd greatly appreciate your help. > > Thanks in advance, > kero > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Apr 12 15:58:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.utexas.edu (wb2-a.mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 059A437B505 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:58:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcampbell@mail.utexas.edu) Received: (qmail 24839 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2001 22:58:42 -0000 Received: from spot.cc.utexas.edu (HELO mail.utexas.edu) (128.83.193.42) by umbs-smtp-2 with SMTP; 12 Apr 2001 22:58:42 -0000 Message-ID: <3AD632DC.3DBB6F40@mail.utexas.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:57:32 -0500 From: David Campbell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: After install, "Non-System disk or disk error" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am installing FreeBSD 4.2 on a Compaq Workstation AP400 with 256MB RAM, 4GB hard drive. The install appears to go flawlessly, regardless of how many partitions I create. On reboot, I get "Non-System disk or disk error." I have tried installing with the boot manager, and without. I am setting the partition as bootable (and even trying it not set). When I boot to the CD and start the install again, it sees the partitions, and the 3 slices (/, swap, /usr). It does not see the labels. If I intercept the boot process to get a command prompt, and use lsdev, it show: disk @ 0x10918 disk0: BIOS drive A: disk0a: FFS 2MB (0-5760) disk0c: FFS 2MB (0-5760) disk1: BIOS drive B: Am I missing something incredibly basic? This machine worked fine for a week while I played around with a couple of different installs. Starting with the attempt yesterday, to start clean one last time, I have been hitting brick walls. Thanks, Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Apr 12 16: 7:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail01.domainbank.com (mail.domainbank.com [209.92.184.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE91537B496 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:07:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdmiller@domainbank.com) Received: from mordor (mordor.domainbank.com [192.168.2.18]) by mail01.domainbank.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.5.186) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:07:12 -0400 Message-ID: <035701c0c3a5$4f082d50$1202a8c0@domainbank.com> From: "Jeff Miller" To: References: <3AD632DC.3DBB6F40@mail.utexas.edu> Subject: Re: After install, "Non-System disk or disk error" Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:07:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are you using the Boot Manager or MBR? I use the MBR and it goes right in for me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Campbell" To: Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:57 PM Subject: After install, "Non-System disk or disk error" > I am installing FreeBSD 4.2 on a Compaq Workstation AP400 with 256MB > RAM, 4GB hard drive. The install appears to go flawlessly, regardless of > how many partitions I create. On reboot, I get "Non-System disk or disk > error." > > I have tried installing with the boot manager, and without. I am setting > the partition as bootable (and even trying it not set). When I boot to > the CD and start the install again, it sees the partitions, and the 3 > slices (/, swap, /usr). It does not see the labels. If I intercept the > boot process to get a command prompt, and use lsdev, it show: > disk @ 0x10918 > disk0: BIOS drive A: > disk0a: FFS 2MB (0-5760) > disk0c: FFS 2MB (0-5760) > disk1: BIOS drive B: > > > Am I missing something incredibly basic? This machine worked fine for a > week while I played around with a couple of different installs. Starting > with the attempt yesterday, to start clean one last time, I have been > hitting brick walls. > > Thanks, > Dave > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Apr 12 20:12:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from silverchair.futureks.net (silverchair.futureks.net [209.134.106.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4191637B42C for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drwho@futureks.net) Received: from [209.134.106.93] (smeghead.futureks.net [209.134.106.93]) by silverchair.futureks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA07943 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:12:18 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:11:06 -0600 Subject: Problem installing FreeBSD 4.2 From: Patrick Klee To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I keep installing FreeBSD but when the system reboots, I get a blinking cursor in the upper left-hand corner of the screen. I installed the FreeBSD MBR liek someone said and I forgot his name. Is there a troubleshooting guide? Heeellllllp! I want FreeBSD so bad I can taste it. :) Patrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 13 0:38: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from filer.fr.clara.net (filer.fr.clara.net [212.43.194.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED7437B440 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 00:38:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james@fr.clara.net) Received: from munster.noc.fr.clara.net (munster.noc.fr.clara.net [212.43.195.20]) by filer.fr.clara.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E9D2F58; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:38:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:38:02 +0200 (CEST) From: James Tapping X-Sender: james@munster.noc.fr.clara.net To: Patrick Klee Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem installing FreeBSD 4.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The hand book is good at www.freebsd.org/handbook On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Patrick Klee wrote: > Hi, > I keep installing FreeBSD but when the system reboots, I get a blinking > cursor in the upper left-hand corner of the screen. I installed the FreeBSD > MBR liek someone said and I forgot his name. Is there a troubleshooting > guide? Heeellllllp! I want FreeBSD so bad I can taste it. :) > > > Patrick > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 13 2: 9:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from vti01.vertis.nl (vti01.vertis.nl [145.66.4.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2140537B443 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 02:09:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nieuwenhuisa@vertis.nl) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by vti01.vertis.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id LAA02633 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:09:06 +0200 Received: from vts070.vertis.nl (vts070.vertis.nl [145.66.20.220]) by gate01.vertis.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA19744 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:08:42 +0200 Received: by vts007.vertis.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2Z2V5J0Y>; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:08:42 +0200 Message-ID: <938F7F15145BD311AECE00508B7152DB047678EE@vts007.vertis.nl> From: Arjan Nieuwenhuis To: "'freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: a new apprentice is at your disposal! Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:08:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, My name is Arjan Nieuwenhuis i come from The Netherlands. i would like to learn everything about FreeBSD and help with the development of it. I am a advanced linux user and i know the basics of turbopascal/c/c++/java. right now i am learning perl. I have some spare time so please tell me if you need help with development of something (it would be an honor). please answer at this email-adress : arjan@kabel.netvisit.nl Thanks for reading this. Arjan Nieuwenhuis PS. I have read there was a driver for the Highpoint HPT370 IDE-RAID controller is this a NON-RAID or a full compatible driver? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 13 9:21:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp2fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876CB37B43E; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:21:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from optix@nyc.rr.com) Received: from darkstar ([24.29.134.4]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:24:59 -0400 Message-ID: <008501c0c436$adea85c0$01000001@darkstar> From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Cc: Subject: Why is my machine only using 64MB of RAM? Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:27:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0082_01C0C415.26C20260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C0C415.26C20260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, I have a Dell Dimension XPS T500 which I had installed FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE on (from the ISO) and on system bootup, dmesg reports that there is only 65MB of RAM available to the system. However, this is not the case. This machine has 2 sticks, each of 128MB of RAM for a total of 256MB. However, when the machine is in Windows, all 256MB of RAM is detected and used and everything is working fine. I have since deinstalled FreeBSD from my system and am now currently running Windows, trying to figure all of this out. Any insight would be appreciated, as I want to get back to using FreeBSD as soon as possible.=20 Thank you in advance,=20 Jonathan M. Slivko ~~~~ Jonathan M. Slivko Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network Pager: (917) 388-5304 Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/ (PGP Key @ http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc) ~~~~ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOtcpAT4aolq8K4tFEQKfjwCeNR0yrnfNiygnVog9cYO9DICsvpYAn2En H/0EZ0vwPjIT8fY3hxEdN3M9 =3D7wU8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C0C415.26C20260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C0C415.26C20260-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 13 9:32: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from kevine01.ugaloo.org (h204-50-7-34.dccnet.com [204.50.7.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5446A37B505; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:32:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kg@dccnet.com) Received: from dccnet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kevine01.ugaloo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E74A1C9; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3AD72A02.3D6CD329@dccnet.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:32:02 -0700 From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Cc: questions@freebsd.org, newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is my machine only using 64MB of RAM? References: <008501c0c436$adea85c0$01000001@darkstar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: > Hello all, > > I have a Dell Dimension XPS T500 which I had installed FreeBSD > 4.2-RELEASE on (from the ISO) and on system bootup, dmesg reports > that there is only 65MB of RAM available to the system. However, this > is not the case. This machine has 2 sticks, each of 128MB of RAM for > a total of 256MB. However, when the machine is in Windows, all 256MB > of RAM is detected and used and everything is working fine. I have > since deinstalled FreeBSD from my system and am now currently running > Windows, trying to figure all of this out. Any insight would be > appreciated, as I want to get back to using FreeBSD as soon as > possible. It is explained in /sys/i386/conf/LINT as this <4.3-RC FreeBSD>. < snip > # MAXMEM specifies the amount of RAM on the machine; if this is not # specified, FreeBSD will first read the amount of memory from the CMOS # RAM, so the amount of memory will initially be limited to 64MB or 16MB # depending on the BIOS. If the BIOS reports 64MB, a memory probe will # then attempt to detect the installed amount of RAM. If this probe # fails to detect >64MB RAM you will have to use the MAXMEM option. # The amount is in kilobytes, so for a machine with 128MB of RAM, it would # be 131072 (128 * 1024). < snip > options MAXMEM="(128*1024)" < snip > So compile your kernel, including the amount of memory that you have installed and it will use the entire amount of installed RAM. -- Regards, | Any and all errors in spelling are the | intellectual property of the author and Kevin G. Eliuk | are therefore governed by the copyright | laws of the jurisdiction in which they (604) 886-4040 | are received. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 13 9:42:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp2fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F9D37B50B; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:42:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from optix@nyc.rr.com) Received: from darkstar ([24.29.134.4]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:45:25 -0400 Message-ID: <009801c0c439$885621e0$01000001@darkstar> From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" Cc: , References: <008501c0c436$adea85c0$01000001@darkstar> <3AD72A02.3D6CD329@dccnet.com> Subject: Re: Why is my machine only using 64MB of RAM? Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:48:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Kevin, I really appreciate it. Thanks. - -- Jonathan M. Slivko ~~~~ Jonathan M. Slivko Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network Pager: (917) 388-5304 Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/ (PGP Key @ http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc) ~~~~ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Cc: ; Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: Re: Why is my machine only using 64MB of RAM? > > "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I have a Dell Dimension XPS T500 which I had installed FreeBSD > > 4.2-RELEASE on (from the ISO) and on system bootup, dmesg reports > > that there is only 65MB of RAM available to the system. However, > > this is not the case. This machine has 2 sticks, each of 128MB of > > RAM for a total of 256MB. However, when the machine is in > > Windows, all 256MB of RAM is detected and used and everything is > > working fine. I have since deinstalled FreeBSD from my system and > > am now currently running Windows, trying to figure all of this > > out. Any insight would be appreciated, as I want to get back to > > using FreeBSD as soon as possible. > > It is explained in /sys/i386/conf/LINT as this <4.3-RC FreeBSD>. > < snip > > # MAXMEM specifies the amount of RAM on the machine; if this is not > # specified, FreeBSD will first read the amount of memory from the > CMOS # RAM, so the amount of memory will initially be limited to > 64MB or 16MB # depending on the BIOS. If the BIOS reports 64MB, a > memory probe will # then attempt to detect the installed amount of > RAM. If this probe # fails to detect >64MB RAM you will have to > use the MAXMEM option. # The amount is in kilobytes, so for a > machine with 128MB of RAM, it would # be 131072 (128 * 1024). > < snip > > options MAXMEM="(128*1024)" > < snip > > > So compile your kernel, including the amount of memory that you > have installed and it will use the entire amount of installed RAM. > > > -- > Regards, | Any and all errors in spelling are > the > | intellectual property of the > author and Kevin G. Eliuk | are therefore governed > by the copyright > | laws of the jurisdiction in which > they (604) 886-4040 | are received. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOtctyz4aolq8K4tFEQIznwCgreSN+dTuOsmFu43EdJUB3sLMYvwAoJV5 A1h5AQvN8Q0lzQRraxUJxTwq =AFuh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 13 14:47:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.a2000.nl (duck.a2000.nl [62.108.1.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2F337B424 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:47:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bliekp@cable.a2000.nl) Received: from node1475b.a2000.nl ([24.132.71.91] helo=sisters.cable.a2000.nl) by smtp2.a2000.nl with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #4) id 14oBPi-0003GB-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:47:34 +0200 Message-Id: <5.1.0.12.0.20010413234242.009f6890@mail.a2000.nl> X-Sender: pbliek00@mail.a2000.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.0.12 (Beta) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:47:33 +0200 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Pim Bliek Subject: problem configuring X Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I'm quite new to FreeBSD. Actually, I'm just using it for a couple of days. After years of Linux I decided I needed a real fast and secure system... Currently I'm trying to setup X on a Sis 6326 chipset on an old SVGA monitor using FreeBSD 4.2 (full install). Somehow it doesn't work. I used xf86config (because XF86Config didn't work, it couldn't start the default X server....) to configure. I did this loads of times in my life but somehow now it doesn't work. When I try to start X (using startx) I get: (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 39.56 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted. (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: KDENABIO failed (Operation not permitted) If needed I can send more details of my system. (f.i. the compelte X output) Regards, Pim Bliek bliekp@cable.a2000.nl BSD Newbie ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 13 15:26:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail01.domainbank.com (mail.domainbank.com [209.92.184.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8652937B496 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:26:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdmiller@domainbank.com) Received: from mordor (mordor.domainbank.com [192.168.2.18]) by mail01.domainbank.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.5.186) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:26:29 -0400 Message-ID: <002c01c0c468$c94d1990$1202a8c0@domainbank.com> From: "Jeff Miller" To: References: <5.1.0.12.0.20010413234242.009f6890@mail.a2000.nl> Subject: Re: problem configuring X Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:26:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are you trying to do this as a non-root user? If that is the case, sounds like a permissions problem. You need to install the wrapper for X. I believe thats in /usr/ports/x11/wrapper That allows non-root to run X. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pim Bliek" To: Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:47 PM Subject: problem configuring X > Hello all, > > I'm quite new to FreeBSD. Actually, I'm just using it for a couple of days. > After years of Linux I decided I needed a real fast and secure system... > > Currently I'm trying to setup X on a Sis 6326 chipset on an old SVGA > monitor using FreeBSD 4.2 (full install). Somehow it doesn't work. I used > xf86config (because XF86Config didn't work, it couldn't start the default X > server....) to configure. I did this loads of times in my life but somehow > now it doesn't work. > > When I try to start X (using startx) I get: > > > > (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 39.56 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted. > (**) FontPath set to > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/us r/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/ X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > > Fatal server error: > xf86OpenConsole: KDENABIO failed (Operation not permitted) > > > > > If needed I can send more details of my system. (f.i. the compelte X output) > > Regards, > > Pim Bliek > bliekp@cable.a2000.nl > > BSD Newbie ;-) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 13 15:28:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.a2000.nl (duck.a2000.nl [62.108.1.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECAB37B423 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:28:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bliekp@cable.a2000.nl) Received: from node1475b.a2000.nl ([24.132.71.91] helo=sisters.cable.a2000.nl) by smtp2.a2000.nl with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #4) id 14oC3d-0003cy-00; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:28:49 +0200 Message-Id: <5.1.0.12.0.20010414002756.009f1d20@mail.a2000.nl> X-Sender: pbliek00@mail.a2000.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.0.12 (Beta) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:28:38 +0200 To: "Jeff Miller" , From: Pim Bliek Subject: Re: problem configuring X In-Reply-To: <002c01c0c468$c94d1990$1202a8c0@domainbank.com> References: <5.1.0.12.0.20010413234242.009f6890@mail.a2000.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jeff, No, I'm running this as root. Pim P.S. but thanx anyway for the tip to this wrapper, sounds good ;-) At 06:26 PM 4/13/01 -0400, Jeff Miller wrote: >Are you trying to do this as a non-root user? If that is the case, sounds >like a permissions problem. You need to install the wrapper for X. I >believe thats in /usr/ports/x11/wrapper That allows non-root to run X. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Pim Bliek" >To: >Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:47 PM >Subject: problem configuring X > > > > Hello all, > > > > I'm quite new to FreeBSD. Actually, I'm just using it for a couple of >days. > > After years of Linux I decided I needed a real fast and secure system... > > > > Currently I'm trying to setup X on a Sis 6326 chipset on an old SVGA > > monitor using FreeBSD 4.2 (full install). Somehow it doesn't work. I used > > xf86config (because XF86Config didn't work, it couldn't start the default >X > > server....) to configure. I did this loads of times in my life but somehow > > now it doesn't work. > > > > When I try to start X (using startx) I get: > > > > > > > > (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 39.56 kHz. Deleted. > > (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted. > > (**) FontPath set to > > >"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/us >r/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/ >X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > > > > Fatal server error: > > xf86OpenConsole: KDENABIO failed (Operation not permitted) > > > > > > > > > > If needed I can send more details of my system. (f.i. the compelte X >output) > > > > Regards, > > > > Pim Bliek > > bliekp@cable.a2000.nl > > > > BSD Newbie ;-) > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 13 19:23:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (unknown [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB37F37B507 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 19:23:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA80800 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 12:30:17 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 12:30:17 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200104140230.MAA80800@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 14 16:32:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A385937B50D for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 16:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drtebi@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO RAMBUS) (216.179.225.200) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2001 23:32:33 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <000701c0c53b$3d9cc340$c8e1b3d8@RAMBUS> Reply-To: "DrTebi" From: "DrTebi" To: Subject: using serial port Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 16:32:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have a very basic setup: Asus P2BD motherboard generic CD-ROM generic Floppy Drive 8GB Maxtor HD ATI Rage Pro .... What I am trying to do is using the serial port connection (correct me if I'm wrong, the connector next to the printer's parrallel port connector, there's two) to connect to the serial port, or also called console port, on a Cisco 1720 router. I am pretty lost, since I don't even know what program I would need to make this connection. On Windoze systems there is a program called "Hyper Terminal", which worked fine - but I want to use FreeBSD. I figured the "minicom" application would be the one to use, and installed it. Now, which device IS the serial port? /dev/sdi0? /dev/ttyd0? How do I configure it through minicom? What do I have to do? Please help! DrTebi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 14 17:37:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gargoyle.apana.org.au (gargoyle-xl0.apana.org.au [210.215.3.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B12237B50E; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:37:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gargoyle.apana.org.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3F0e2V95914; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:40:02 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from bryden.apana.org.au(203.3.126.129), claiming to be "kurley" via SMTP by gargoyle.apana.org.au, id smtpdU9KQSs; Sun Apr 15 10:39:46 2001 Message-ID: <00d401c0c543$932aa4a0$8683fea9@kurley> From: "Doug Young" To: "DrTebi" Cc: , References: <000701c0c53b$3d9cc340$c8e1b3d8@RAMBUS> Subject: Re: using serial port Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:32:16 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think the device you need to use is either /dev/cuaa0 (COM1) or /dev/cuaa1 (COM2). FWIW, the "officially correct" place to ask technical questions of this nature is the freebsd-questions rather than freebsd-newbies so I've posted to both lists so I don't than incur the wrath of various experts :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "DrTebi" To: Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 9:32 AM Subject: using serial port > Hi, > I have a very basic setup: > Asus P2BD motherboard > generic CD-ROM > generic Floppy Drive > 8GB Maxtor HD > ATI Rage Pro > .... > > What I am trying to do is using the serial port connection (correct me if > I'm wrong, the connector next to the printer's parrallel port connector, > there's two) to connect to the serial port, or also called console port, on > a Cisco 1720 router. > > I am pretty lost, since I don't even know what program I would need to make > this connection. On Windoze systems there is a program called "Hyper > Terminal", which worked fine - but I want to use FreeBSD. > I figured the "minicom" application would be the one to use, and installed > it. > > Now, which device IS the serial port? /dev/sdi0? /dev/ttyd0? How do I > configure it through minicom? > > What do I have to do? > Please help! > > DrTebi > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 14 23:32:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from baku.host4u.net (baku.host4u.net [216.71.64.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580F437B449; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 23:32:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsddiary@baku.host4u.net) Received: (from freebsddiary@localhost) by baku.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA11145; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 01:07:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 01:07:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200104150607.BAA11145@baku.host4u.net> From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2001-03-25 - 2001-04-14 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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