From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun May 6 14:41:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f172.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7D237B424 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 14:41:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sohailq8@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 6 May 2001 14:41:40 -0700 Received: from 213.189.83.102 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 06 May 2001 21:41:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.189.83.102] From: "sohail malik" To: a0981@makita.cc.gifu-nct.ac.jp Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, zen@buddhist.com Subject: help please Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 21:41:40 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2001 21:41:40.0352 (UTC) FILETIME=[55B07800:01C0D675] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello, i am new to freebsd. i have installed freebsd in my standalone server. but my modem is not working. sir i cant even use pico command. i dont know for pico command which package i have to install. please tell me how i can connect to internet from my freebsd machine. i went to ...> http://lists.openresources.com/FreeBSD/freebsd-newbies/msg00432.html and found your email address. i will be really thankful if you reply me back. thanks again. bye prayers. Shah _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun May 6 15:26:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailin2.email.bigpond.com (juicer14.bigpond.com [139.134.6.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE0237B422; Sun, 6 May 2001 15:26:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.52]) by mailin2.email.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GCXQK900.HHP; Mon, 7 May 2001 08:31:21 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-140-138.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.140.138]) by mail5.bigpond.com (Claudes-Residential-MailRouter V2.9c 9/7412892); 07 May 2001 08:26:20 Message-ID: <00b601c0d67b$894955a0$0300a8c0@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "sohail malik" , , Cc: , References: Subject: Re: help please Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:26:02 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think the experts prefer technical questions be asked on the freebsd-questions list. I've forwarded the message there, but in the meantime you should check that you don't have a winmodem (basically if its 56k / internal / PCI). Any "plug & pray" internal modem is difficult to configure but winmodems are near impossible ..... its far easier to go purchase a "proper" external serial cable connected modem. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sohail malik" To: Cc: ; Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: help please > hello, > i am new to freebsd. i have installed freebsd in my standalone server. > but my modem is not working. sir i cant even use pico command. i dont know > for pico command which package i have to install. please tell me how i can > connect to internet from my freebsd machine. i went to ...> > http://lists.openresources.com/FreeBSD/freebsd-newbies/msg00432.html and > found your email address. i will be really thankful if you reply me back. > thanks again. > bye > > prayers. > Shah > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 0:44:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web11802.mail.yahoo.com (web11802.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E83C737B423 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 00:44:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philippebresoux@yahoo.fr) Message-ID: <20010507074457.55161.qmail@web11802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.121.103.49] by web11802.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 07 May 2001 09:44:57 CEST Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 09:44:57 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Philippe=20Bresoux?= Subject: RC4 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, You'll probably think that my question is stupid, but... : "What's the difference between FreeBSD4.3 and FreeBSD4.3-rc4 ?" Best regards Phil. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Pour faire vos courses sur le Net, Yahoo! Shopping : http://fr.shopping.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 0:51:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cassini.dc.kau.se (cassini.dc.kau.se [193.10.220.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609B237B422 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 00:51:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jorgen.sigvardsson@kau.se) Received: from munin.dc.kau.se (not verified[193.10.220.94]) by cassini.dc.kau.se with MailMarshal (4,0,7,0) id ; Mon, 07 May 2001 09:51:51 +200 Received: from js-pc.cs.kau.se (js-pc.cs.kau.se [193.10.222.81]) by munin.dc.kau.se (2.5 Build 2626 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA20974 for ; Mon, 07 May 2001 09:51:51 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: =?iso-8859-1?q?J=F6rgen=20Sigvardsson?= Organization: University of Karlstad To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RC4 Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:02:25 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20010507074457.55161.qmail@web11802.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010507074457.55161.qmail@web11802.mail.yahoo.com> X-FreeBSD-User: yes X-Linux-User: no MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01050711022503.78890@js-pc.cs.kau.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 07 May 2001 09:44, you wrote: > Hi all, > > You'll probably think that my question is stupid, > but... : "What's the difference between FreeBSD4.3 and > FreeBSD4.3-rc4 ?" Probably nothing more than the version. RC = Release Candidate. Logic tells me that the last RC is always the same thing as the next release modulo "-rcX". - -- Jörgen Sigvardsson, B. Sc. Lecturer, Computer Science Dept. Karlstad University Tel: +46-(0)54-700 1786 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE69mShJtcD8rikkmwRAgNjAKCXkxaM6Pu072sZP+6nhxHN9MwlFQCeL8cd VG1iATxynnsdRVrGlHTJnO8= =PPbl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 2:24:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f87.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434ED37B42C for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 02:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from smallpython@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 7 May 2001 02:24:46 -0700 Received: from 203.193.32.43 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 07 May 2001 09:24:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.193.32.43] From: "Tanvir Huq" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Pls I need help in learnin & codin in FreeBSD Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 15:24:45 +0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2001 09:24:46.0210 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E6B8E20:01C0D6D7] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org
Hello guys,
I am a enthusiast of linux. Recently I have gotten a OpenBSD CD.
And I was unable to install it properly cuz I was a shitting "windows"
user. Recently I am in web business with some of my friends. And I like

to develop some network program & coding in OpenBSD.

POINT TO NOTE: I am a new coder and learning many things(c,scheme,ada,
assembly,OCaml,python,bash,POSIX API) at a time.And don't have previous
experience.I am having a very very hard-time to make myself the "TopGun"
in my country

But I want to start to code first in my life in a UNIX system!!

I may don't have the ability but I want to give it good shot at
my level best. I want to know is do u guys help poor progrmmer or developer like
me who is trying hard but don't know anything much yet!? do u have any IRC channel or newsgroups. It would be very much nice of u guys if u give u any of "Guru"s
e-mail address, so I can contact with them by mail. It would be very much convenient for me!!

 

Pls help S.M.S(Save My Soul)

------Shantanu-------
smallpython@hotmail.com

Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 10:23:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web4304.mail.yahoo.com (web4304.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C310937B424 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 10:23:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webrazter@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010507172344.7556.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.193.172.66] by web4304.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 07 May 2001 10:23:44 PDT Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:23:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Web Razter Subject: StartX or graphical login To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I (once, I swear!) tried Linux Mandrake 7.0 and had a choice of a graphical login or regular login (althogh how I got from one to the other I don't remember). Can this be done in FreeBSD? If not, how do I get startx to run after the system has booted and I login from the shell? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 10:34:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from legba.tvnet.hu (legba.tvnet.hu [195.38.96.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4E337B422 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 10:34:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keppler@satimex.tvnet.hu) Received: from satimex.tvnet.hu (marvin.satimex.tvnet.hu [195.38.110.197]) by legba.tvnet.hu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20849; Mon, 7 May 2001 19:34:45 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <3AF6DD5D.53560DB8@satimex.tvnet.hu> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 19:37:33 +0200 From: Keppler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Web Razter Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: StartX or graphical login References: <20010507172344.7556.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think, You should use xdm, but first you need to set up the X environment correctly, then try it with xinit or startx. If ewerithing goes well, try to manage xdm to run after the system goes up. Maybe /etc/rc.conf is the place, where you should do this xdm thing. Web Razter wrote: > > I (once, I swear!) tried Linux Mandrake 7.0 and had a > choice of a graphical login or regular login (althogh > how I got from one to the other I don't remember). Can > this be done in FreeBSD? > > If not, how do I get startx to run after the system > has booted and I login from the shell? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 10:41: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web4302.mail.yahoo.com (web4302.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF1D937B423 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 10:40:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webrazter@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010507174059.3356.qmail@web4302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.193.172.66] by web4302.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 07 May 2001 10:40:59 PDT Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:40:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Web Razter Subject: Re: FreeBSD working! .. Well, kinda... To: Virtual Bob Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I can get into KDE just fine when I run startx, so I should use xdm to configure the rest? Is there a man page for xdm? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 10:46:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from legba.tvnet.hu (legba.tvnet.hu [195.38.96.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C501437B423 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 10:46:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keppler@satimex.tvnet.hu) Received: from satimex.tvnet.hu (marvin.satimex.tvnet.hu [195.38.110.197]) by legba.tvnet.hu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA21014; Mon, 7 May 2001 19:46:39 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <3AF6E027.C6296C9B@satimex.tvnet.hu> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 19:49:27 +0200 From: Keppler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Web Razter Cc: Virtual Bob , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD working! .. Well, kinda... References: <20010507174059.3356.qmail@web4302.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Web Razter wrote: > startkde? man xdm? > I can get into KDE just fine when I run startx, so I > should use xdm to configure the rest? Is there a man > page for xdm? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 10:52:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5818537B422 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 10:52:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA6ABA; Mon, 7 May 2001 10:57:51 -0700 Message-ID: <3AF6E0C4.E2E452C1@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 10:52:04 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Web Razter Cc: Virtual Bob , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD working! .. Well, kinda... References: <20010507174059.3356.qmail@web4302.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Web Razter wrote: > > I can get into KDE just fine when I run startx, so I > should use xdm to configure the rest? Is there a man > page for xdm? Look in the FreeBSD FAQ book that came with the OS. It includes information on setting up xdm. In your case, you would use kdm instead. There are two ways to do it, the ttys method and the rc.local method. I found the latter method works better for kdm. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 11:38:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478B737B422 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 11:38:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p219.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.219]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA77290; Mon, 7 May 2001 20:38:16 +0200 Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00397; Mon, 7 May 2001 20:27:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:27:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: Web Razter Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: StartX or graphical login In-Reply-To: <20010507172344.7556.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If not, how do I get startx to run after the system > has booted and I login from the shell? Just write "startx" and enter. man xinit has an example of an .xinitrc file. And you might want an .twmrc file. At least for xterm etc in the mouse menu. But I do most of my stuff in textmode, small screen.. H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 12:40:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from home.haneys.net (dsl-64-34-250-237.telocity.com [64.34.250.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19AF37B422 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 12:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rich@linux.haneys.net) Received: by home.haneys.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 693A31183B8; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:40:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:40:22 -0400 From: Rich Haney To: Web Razter Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: StartX or graphical login Message-ID: <20010507154022.A15156@haneys.net> References: <20010507172344.7556.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010507172344.7556.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com>; from webrazter@yahoo.com on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 10:23:44AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Linux does this by setting runlevel 5 (X11) as the default runlevel (in /etc/inittab). Since freebsd doesn't support runlevels, you'll need to find a different way. Probably the best way to do this would be to have your .bashrc (or .login or whatever) file exec a script to launch it. The script should probably look for /tmp/.X0-lock, so it won't try to launch X if it's already running (i.e., when you start a terminal from within X). RIch On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 10:23:44AM -0700, Web Razter wrote: > I (once, I swear!) tried Linux Mandrake 7.0 and had a > choice of a graphical login or regular login (althogh > how I got from one to the other I don't remember). Can > this be done in FreeBSD? > > If not, how do I get startx to run after the system > has booted and I login from the shell? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Rich Haney rich@haneys.net --- "I'm growing older, but not up." -- Jimmy Buffett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 13: 6: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web4305.mail.yahoo.com (web4305.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABB0737B422 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:05:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webrazter@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010507200558.11717.qmail@web4305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.193.172.66] by web4305.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 07 May 2001 13:05:58 PDT Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:05:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Web Razter Subject: Re: StartX or graphical login To: Rich Haney Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010507154022.A15156@haneys.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So then I will not have a true GUI login with FreeBSD - no prob. But how do I go about making a script for the .login and where do I put it? . Or better yet, point me to a reference on making scripts so I can actually learn it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 13:15:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from home.haneys.net (dsl-64-34-250-237.telocity.com [64.34.250.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C9637B423 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rich@linux.haneys.net) Received: by home.haneys.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id C95411183B8; Mon, 7 May 2001 16:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:15:52 -0400 From: Rich Haney To: Web Razter Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: StartX or graphical login Message-ID: <20010507161552.A15251@haneys.net> References: <20010507154022.A15156@haneys.net> <20010507200558.11717.qmail@web4305.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010507200558.11717.qmail@web4305.mail.yahoo.com>; from webrazter@yahoo.com on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 01:05:58PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gosh, there are literally tons of shell scripting tutorials. O'Reilly publishes a book on using each of the major shells (ksh, csh and bash), and each has a section on scripting in the language. You can also look at something online, such as : http://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/usail/concepts/shell-scripting.html Basically, your .login should just call the script (probably best to have it exec at the end). The script should probably just look for the existence of the X lock file, and start X if it doesn't exist, something like this (note that this may not work - I haven't tested it): #!/bin/sh if [ ! -e /tmp/.X0-lock ] then exec startx fi This script simply looks for the existence of a file called /tmp/.X0-lock - and, if it doesn't exist, calls startx . HTH. Don't worry about the newbie stuff - I'm a FreeBSD newbie myself (but I've got a good bit of *NIX experience). We all start somewhere. Rich On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 01:05:58PM -0700, Web Razter wrote: > So then I will not have a true GUI login with FreeBSD > - no prob. But how do I go about making a script for > the .login and where do I put it? gripes here>. Or better yet, point me to a reference > on making scripts so I can actually learn it. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ -- Rich Haney rich@haneys.net --- "I'm growing older, but not up." -- Jimmy Buffett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 13:20:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3A237B422 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA536C; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:26:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3AF703A3.9F5A1989@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 13:20:51 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Web Razter Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: StartX or graphical login References: <20010507200558.11717.qmail@web4305.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Web Razter wrote: > > So then I will not have a true GUI login with FreeBSD Oh, but you will! I do, anyway. Read the FreeBSD FAQ. You can either edit the /etc/ttys file, edit rc.local (what I did), or create an X.sh script in /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d. The appropriate documentation is at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/x.html#XDM-BOOT David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 13:27:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.vcnet.com (mail.vcnet.com [209.239.239.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7253D37B422 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:27:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dracos@vcnet.com) Received: (qmail 87832 invoked from network); 7 May 2001 20:27:55 -0000 Received: from gate.citcopmuters.com (HELO cit1) (209.239.230.150) by mail.vcnet.com with SMTP; 7 May 2001 20:27:55 -0000 Message-ID: <001801c0d735$37599470$2901a8c0@cit1> From: "Chris Becker" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:35:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0D6FA.8AD92AB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0D6FA.8AD92AB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable subscribe freebsd-newbies ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0D6FA.8AD92AB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
subscribe=20 freebsd-newbies
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0D6FA.8AD92AB0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 14:40:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web4304.mail.yahoo.com (web4304.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B57537B423 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:40:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webrazter@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010507214049.24542.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.193.172.66] by web4304.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 07 May 2001 14:40:49 PDT Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:40:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Web Razter Subject: StarOffice 5.2 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can I use the Linux rpm of StarOffice to install in Freebsd/kde? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 15:27:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA4937B423 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:27:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA2FAF; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:32:46 -0700 Message-ID: <3AF72137.CEE5F444@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 15:27:03 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Web Razter Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.2 References: <20010507214049.24542.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Web Razter wrote: > > Can I use the Linux rpm of StarOffice to install in Freebsd/kde? RPM? I take it this isn't the official StarOffice, but some package done up by a Linux distro? Good luck! I guess there's some good reasons to make an RPM out of StarOffice. But the bad reasons far outweigh them. In my mind, it's not worth the price to mutate the normally portable StarOffice into a non-portable vendor-specific package. If you have a fast internet connection, just go grab the real thing. Otherwise, maybe someone from the -questions list has done this before. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 17: 7:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4405437B422; Mon, 7 May 2001 17:07:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4805Hg00397; Mon, 7 May 2001 20:05:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200105080005.f4805Hg00397@fac13.ds.psu.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Web Razter Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.2 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 May 2001 14:40:49 PDT." <20010507214049.24542.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: dochawk@psu.edu Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 20:05:17 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Can I use the Linux rpm of StarOffice to install in Freebsd/kde? Not only *can* you, but you *must* install editors/staroffice52 If you use the ports collection and already have the rpm, put it in /usr/ports/distfiles If you're using packages, I'm sure there's somewhere to put it so that it doesn't get downloaded, but I"m not sure where. hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 17:23:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0128237B423; Mon, 7 May 2001 17:23:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA6D75; Mon, 7 May 2001 17:29:00 -0700 Message-ID: <3AF73C74.73DB9AD0@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 17:23:16 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dochawk@psu.edu Cc: Web Razter , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.2 References: <200105080005.f4805Hg00397@fac13.ds.psu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org dochawk@psu.edu wrote: > > > Can I use the Linux rpm of StarOffice to install in Freebsd/kde? > > Not only *can* you, but you *must* > > install editors/staroffice52 Okay, now I'm confused. Or maybe you are. I don't know which. HOWEVER, the FreeBSD port is looking for a file by the name of "so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin". This doesn't appear to be an RPM. I'm looking all over my StarOffice CD, and I found the above file, but I can find no RPM files. Cheers! David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 18:22:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dolomite.airtouch.com (dolomite.airtouch.com [151.144.253.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F50237B423 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 18:22:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dibble@cc.gatech.edu) Received: from COM ([153.114.10.55]) by dolomite.airtouch.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA13729 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 18:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105080109.SAA13729@dolomite.airtouch.com> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: pcvt From: "Jeffrey Lee" Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:19 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MultiMail P99.2.26, Actual Software Corp. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am on a large campus network and need to use pcvt instead of syscons. How do I install pcvt to run instead of syscons? ######## jeff lee dibble@cc.gatech.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 18:38:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from kevine01.ugaloo.org (h204-50-7-34.dccnet.com [204.50.7.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA68837B422; Mon, 7 May 2001 18:38:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kg@dccnet.com) Received: from dccnet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kevine01.ugaloo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01664C7; Mon, 7 May 2001 18:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3AF74E32.26CBC221@dccnet.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 18:38:58 -0700 From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Johnson Cc: dochawk@psu.edu, Web Razter , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.2 References: <200105080005.f4805Hg00397@fac13.ds.psu.edu> <3AF73C74.73DB9AD0@acuson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Johnson wrote: > HOWEVER, the FreeBSD port is looking for a file by the name of > "so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin". This doesn't appear to be an RPM. I'm > looking all over my StarOffice CD, and I found the above file, but I can > find no RPM files. That's right. You have to registera and download the installable from Sun if you do not have the copy of it on CD, and place it in /usr/ports/distfiles. -- Regards, | Any and all errors in spelling are the | intellectual property of the author and Kevin G. Eliuk | are therefore governed by the copyright | laws of the jurisdiction in which they (604) 886-4040 | are received. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 18:46:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (unknown [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE68D37B423 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 18:46:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f481kBO35068; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:46:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:46:11 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Jeffrey Lee Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pcvt Message-ID: <20010508114610.F26132@welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Sue Blake , Jeffrey Lee , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200105080109.SAA13729@dolomite.airtouch.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105080109.SAA13729@dolomite.airtouch.com>; from dibble@cc.gatech.edu on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:19:00PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:19:00PM +0000, Jeffrey Lee wrote: > I am on a large campus network and need to use pcvt instead of > syscons. How do I install pcvt to run instead of syscons? Have you looked at this section in the FreeBSD FAQ? "Full screen applications on remote machines misbehave" It gives you a few options that might be more palatable, or at least quicker to implement. If you need how-to advice, we don't do support questions and answers on freebsd-newbies, it's just for chat (see the list charters). If you write to freebsd-questions instead, they'll give you reliable advice. In particular, if there are some problems with using pcvt that you should be aware of (as I suspect there may be), someone there will know. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 21:29: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0848F37B423 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 21:29:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamellr@1nova.com) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 27B4A18D5; Sun, 6 May 2001 21:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF1F18D4; Sun, 6 May 2001 21:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 21:53:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Hamell To: Jeffrey Lee Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pcvt In-Reply-To: <200105080109.SAA13729@dolomite.airtouch.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am on a large campus network and need to use pcvt instead of > syscons. How do I install pcvt to run instead of syscons? Please ask all technical questions on -questions. -Newbies is for non-technical newbie questions only. :) Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 7 22:17:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail-1.catskill.net (ns.catskill.net [205.232.250.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEB237B422 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 22:17:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wyrdwulf@catskill.net) Received: from aikane.aikane.net (87.m68.one.catskill.net [209.177.43.87]) by mail-1.catskill.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f47LSk528817; Mon, 7 May 2001 17:28:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200105072128.f47LSk528817@mail-1.catskill.net> From: "eric k. wolven" To: webrazter@yahoo.com Cc: rich@haneys.net, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Subject: Re: StartX or graphical login In-Reply-To: <20010507200558.11717.qmail@web4305.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 16:21:50 +0106 (EDT) X-Mailer: XCmail 1.3 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (FreeBSD) X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Web: Try xdm or wdm. Works for me... Eric Wolven ---Reply to mail from Web Razter about StartX or graphical login > So then I will not have a true GUI login with FreeBSD > - no prob. But how do I go about making a script for > the .login and where do I put it? gripes here>. Or better yet, point me to a reference > on making scripts so I can actually learn it. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > ---End reply To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 0:37: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.home.nl (mail3.home.nl [213.51.129.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D83F37B422 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 00:36:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@rhialto.cjb.net) Received: from rhialto ([213.51.11.82]) by mail3.home.nl (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010508073607.OTWQ8395.mail3.home.nl@rhialto>; Tue, 8 May 2001 08:36:07 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Chris Delnooz To: Web Razter , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: StartX or graphical login Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:35:35 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20010507172344.7556.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010507172344.7556.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01050809353500.00228@rhialto> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It is said that on Monday 07 May 2001 19:23, Web Razter has spoken: > I (once, I swear!) tried Linux Mandrake 7.0 and had a > choice of a graphical login or regular login (althogh > how I got from one to the other I don't remember). Can > this be done in FreeBSD? > > If not, how do I get startx to run after the system > has booted and I login from the shell? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message in a startup script (i'm not yet familiar with the bsd ones, i'm a linux user migrating to BSD) start the xdm or (if you use kde) kdm daemon, then you'll have a true graphical login.. a line like: /bin/kdm or /usr/local/bin/xdm should be enough.. read the xdm and/or kdm for configuring the daemons (which can be tricky sometimes, at least under linux it can ;-p Chris Delnooz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 2: 6:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from miranda.mbl.uib.no (miranda.mbl.uib.no [129.177.70.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA48837B422 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 02:06:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karin@miranda.mbl.uib.no) Received: (from karin@localhost) by miranda.mbl.uib.no (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4896xu41113; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:06:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from karin) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:06:59 +0200 From: Karin Lagesen To: Web Razter Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: StartX or graphical login Message-ID: <20010508110659.C38424@miranda.mbl.uib.no> Mail-Followup-To: Karin Lagesen , Web Razter , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010507172344.7556.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010507172344.7556.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com>; from webrazter@yahoo.com on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 10:23:44AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 10:23:44AM -0700, Web Razter wrote: > I (once, I swear!) tried Linux Mandrake 7.0 and had a > choice of a graphical login or regular login (althogh > how I got from one to the other I don't remember). Can > this be done in FreeBSD? > > If not, how do I get startx to run after the system > has booted and I login from the shell? I seem to recall that in the file /etc/ttys this line here needs to be set to 'on', as this shows: ttyv8 "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure Mind you, this is entirely IIRC. Mvh, Karin -- Karin Lagesen, karin@ii.uib.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 3:26:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0D237B423 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 03:26:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f48AQAk19111; Tue, 8 May 2001 03:26:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Survey on tuning facts./inodes Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 03:26:10 -0700 Message-ID: <003c01c0d7a9$4cdbec20$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You need to run newfs with appropriate options. But, /var is usually created during sysinstall, and there's no option to muck with these settings on installation. Once created, you can't change them without reformatting. Most people in this situation make a small /var and add a second disk mounted in the spool directory, that is created the way they want. You also probably want to continue this discussion in freebsd-questions Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of >root@mail.delanet.com >Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:19 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: RE: Survey on tuning facts./inodes > > >Hi, well, I have a "question". > >On Thu, 3 May 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> you do need to go off the defaults. For example, on our >> Usenet news server, which handles many itty-bitty files, I've >> created the spools with a smaller frag size and smaller number of >> bytes per inode because you need all those extra inodes on a >> newsspool (but, it makes the disks run slower so don't ever do >> this on anything other than a newsserver) Also, for another > >Here is leafnode on /var, and some times ago, I lost some mails >with the message "no inodes anymore", when fetching mails with fetchmail. >texpire, ok. But how could I have prevented this from happening, how do I >get more inodes on /var ? > >Hope it is "newbie" enough to be asked here. The danger to ask questions >on newbies and get answers by newbies, well, maybe not in this case ;-) > >Thanks, > >H. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 6:58: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web4304.mail.yahoo.com (web4304.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A075C37B422 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 06:58:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webrazter@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010508135800.9584.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.193.172.66] by web4304.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 08 May 2001 06:58:00 PDT Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 06:58:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Web Razter Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.2 To: David Johnson Cc: Freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3AF73C74.73DB9AD0@acuson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have it on a Linux CD (Mandrake 7.0) and I was wondering if it woudl work. If not, I'll download the FreeBSD port, just point me to it... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 7:44:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B9137B424; Tue, 8 May 2001 07:44:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f48Egrx05463; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:42:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200105081442.f48Egrx05463@fac13.ds.psu.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" Cc: David Johnson , dochawk@psu.edu, Web Razter , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.2 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 May 2001 18:38:58 PDT." <3AF74E32.26CBC221@dccnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 10:42:53 -0400 From: "~/.signature" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org kevin klarified > > HOWEVER, the FreeBSD port is looking for a file by the name of > > "so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin". This doesn't appear to be an RPM. I'm > > looking all over my StarOffice CD, and I found the above file, but I can > > find no RPM files. > That's right. You have to registera and download the installable from Sun if > you do not have the copy of it on CD, and place it in /usr/ports/distfiles. oops; thaqt was realplayer that used the rpm; staroffice wants the .bin. You used to have to download it separately, but I believe that the ports collection fetched it for me last week. hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 8:31:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f190.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02B337B424 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 08:31:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sig552@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 8 May 2001 08:31:37 -0700 Received: from 193.12.91.35 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 08 May 2001 15:31:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.12.91.35] From: "Sig 552" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Steps to build a firewall Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 17:31:37 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2001 15:31:37.0524 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8994740:01C0D7D3] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Is there any online documentation about using FreeBSD as a firewall. I don't mean IPFW doc's or something. I'am a Newbie to FreeBSD and I wan't to use FreeBSD as a firewall. But I can't find any doc's that specially address the firewall setup. From the beginning to the end. Something like this..... Chapter 1 - Recomended hardware Chapter 2 - Obtaining the software Chapter 3 - Installing the software (partitioning ..and stuff) Chapter 4 - Compile the kernel Chapter 5 - Secure the OS Chapter 6 - Add firewall roules Chapter 7 - Check your Firewall Chapter 8 - Check the security Chapter 9 - Maintenense? Or something...not a generic install instruction of FreeBSD, but a specific firewall install doc. // Regards Sigge _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 9:39:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8485737B50B for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:39:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA4779; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:44:45 -0700 Message-ID: <3AF82127.3FBE27B2@acuson.com> Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 09:39:03 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Web Razter Cc: Freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.2 References: <20010508135800.9584.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Web Razter wrote: > > I have it on a Linux CD (Mandrake 7.0) and I was > wondering if it woudl work. If not, I'll download the > FreeBSD port, just point me to it... I can't remember if the ports automatically downloads it for you during a make. You can try that one first. Otherwise you can grab it off of the Sun site. Also, if you go to the ports listing of StarOffice at www.freebsd.org, it will have a link to a sources page with many different URLs to choose from. IIRC, it's about 70 Megs. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 11: 6:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from icc.cgu.chel.su (gw.csu.ru [195.54.14.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B98837B422 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:06:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fatkulin@mail.cgu.chel.su) Received: from mail.cgu.chel.su (mail.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.68]) by icc.cgu.chel.su (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f48I6Qq13646 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Wed, 9 May 2001 00:06:30 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from fatkulin@mail.cgu.chel.su) Received: from localhost (fatkulin@localhost) by mail.cgu.chel.su (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f48I6Qh58380; Wed, 9 May 2001 00:06:26 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from fatkulin@mail.cgu.chel.su) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 00:06:25 +0600 (YEKST) From: "Fatkulin B. G." To: Chris Delnooz Cc: Web Razter , In-Reply-To: <01050809353500.00228@rhialto> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When I try to start Netscape in XWindow my machine sais: ld.so. failed: cant find shared library libXt.so.6.0 What can I do? Ismail Bulatovich from Russia. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 11:19:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web4306.mail.yahoo.com (web4306.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4473137B422 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:19:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webrazter@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010508181955.25778.qmail@web4306.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.193.172.66] by web4306.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 08 May 2001 11:19:55 PDT Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:19:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Web Razter Subject: Re: To: "Fatkulin B. G." , Chris Delnooz Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ask me not - I'm not an expert.. just a newbie! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 11:47:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from istar.ca (d141-119-162.home.cgocable.net [24.141.119.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD0A37B422 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:47:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) Received: (from genisis@localhost) by istar.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f48Ipjj28393; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:51:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from genisis) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:51:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Dru To: Sig 552 Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Steps to build a firewall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Sigge, I'm currently doing this now as part of a series at: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/04/25/FreeBSD_Basics.html I didn't get into recommended hardware (if it runs FreeBSD, it'll work) and you don't have to install extra software as it's part of the base system. Will be covering your Chapters 4-9 though :) If you're really interested in firewall stuff, I highly recommend Building Internet Firewalls by Zwicky, Cooper, and Champman ISBN 1-56592-871-7 It's well worth its weight in gold, both as a reference and a basis for a solid understanding of how firewalls and protocols work. Cheers, Dru On Tue, 8 May 2001, Sig 552 wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any online documentation about using FreeBSD as a firewall. > > I don't mean IPFW doc's or something. I'am a Newbie to FreeBSD and I wan't > to use FreeBSD as a firewall. But I can't find any doc's that specially > address the firewall setup. From the beginning to the end. > > Something like this..... > > Chapter 1 - Recomended hardware > Chapter 2 - Obtaining the software > Chapter 3 - Installing the software (partitioning ..and stuff) > Chapter 4 - Compile the kernel > Chapter 5 - Secure the OS > Chapter 6 - Add firewall roules > Chapter 7 - Check your Firewall > Chapter 8 - Check the security > Chapter 9 - Maintenense? > > Or something...not a generic install instruction of FreeBSD, but a specific > firewall install doc. > > // Regards Sigge > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 12:13:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f59.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB5F37B422 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:13:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manny8383@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:13:46 -0700 Received: from 128.8.96.27 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 08 May 2001 19:13:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [128.8.96.27] From: "Manny Obrey" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: newbie cd question Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 19:13:45 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2001 19:13:46.0895 (UTC) FILETIME=[0185E1F0:01C0D7F3] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to install 4.3 from an iso i've downloaded from an ftp mirror. I have the iso on my windows desktop and I've got Adaptec Easy cd creator. Each time I try to create a bootable cd it asks me to insert bootable floppies into drive a. I then insert a floppy w/ the kern.flp image. After this I get the error message saying " ... Either the boot image could not be written to the temp dir or the floppy could not be read." well I know the floppy disk is good b/c I can boot into the freebsd install pgm using this disk. I don't seem to be able to create a bootable cd for a non-windows machine. When I'm asked to insert a bootable floppy Easy CD creator seems to want floppies containing config.sys and autoexec.bat. any hlp apprec, Manny _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 12:29:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail01.domainbank.com (mail.domainbank.com [209.92.184.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F8E37B422 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdmiller@domainbank.com) Received: from mordor (mordor.domainbank.com [192.168.2.18]) by mail01.domainbank.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.5.186) with SMTP id ; Tue, 8 May 2001 15:29:37 -0400 Message-ID: <00e201c0d7f5$385f1a50$1202a8c0@domainbank.com> From: "Jeff Miller" To: "Manny Obrey" , References: Subject: Re: newbie cd question Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 15:29:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org the iso image is already bootable... just open it w/ EZ CD Creator and burn to a cd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manny Obrey" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 7:13 PM Subject: newbie cd question > > I am trying to install 4.3 from an iso i've downloaded from an ftp mirror. I > have the iso on my windows desktop and I've got Adaptec Easy cd creator. > Each time I try to create a bootable cd it asks me to insert bootable > floppies into drive a. I then insert a floppy w/ the kern.flp image. After > this I get the error message saying " ... Either the boot image could not be > written to the temp dir or the floppy could not be read." well I know the > floppy disk is good b/c I can boot into the freebsd install pgm using this > disk. > > I don't seem to be able to create a bootable cd for a non-windows machine. > When I'm asked to insert a bootable floppy Easy CD creator seems to want > floppies containing config.sys and autoexec.bat. > > any hlp apprec, > Manny > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 12:41:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from legba.tvnet.hu (legba.tvnet.hu [195.38.96.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3422737B422 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:41:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keppler@satimex.tvnet.hu) Received: from satimex.tvnet.hu (marvin.satimex.tvnet.hu [195.38.110.197]) by legba.tvnet.hu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA17377; Tue, 8 May 2001 21:40:45 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <3AF84C67.83BF2E39@satimex.tvnet.hu> Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 21:43:35 +0200 From: Keppler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Fatkulin B. G." Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Maybe you are using the linux version of netscape. First try to run the linux command as root; then netscape. Hopefully this will help you. Or something else? :) "Fatkulin B. G." wrote: > > When I try to start Netscape in XWindow > my machine sais: > ld.so. failed: cant find shared library libXt.so.6.0 > > What can I do? > > Ismail Bulatovich from Russia. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 14:53:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062AC37B422 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:53:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlduke@concentric.net) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id RAA13448; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:53:30 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts004d01.mer-id.concentric.net (ts004d01.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.157]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id RAA19962; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:53:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:51:14 -0600 (MDT) From: ML Duke To: "Fatkulin B. G." Cc: Chris Delnooz , Web Razter , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 9 May 2001, Fatkulin B. G. wrote: > When I try to start Netscape in XWindow > my machine sais: > ld.so. failed: cant find shared library libXt.so.6.0 > > What can I do? > > Ismail Bulatovich from Russia. Hmmm... This one is ringing a vague bell. First, did you install the Linux libraries? If so and second, are the ones you loaded the ones your version of Netscape needs. Then, it seems like a load command is needed, but I can't remember. ML Duke (In Marsing, Idaho) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 15:12:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683E137B423 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 15:12:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brerfarm@paradise.net.nz) Received: from ferox.paradise.net.nz (203-79-67-87.tnt10.paradise.net.nz [203.79.67.87]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591FA1F9C60; Wed, 9 May 2001 10:12:10 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010509101042.00a337f0@pop3.paradise.net.nz> X-Sender: brerfarm@pop3.paradise.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:16:00 +1200 To: "Fatkulin B. G." From: brerfarm@paradise.net.nz Subject: Re: Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <01050809353500.00228@rhialto> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Try soft linking libXt.so to libXt.so.6.0, or maybe libXt.so.5 to it. (Do you know how to soft link?) Go to /usr/lib/ and " ls libX* " to find a file that looks like the propper libXt and makes a softlink. I got KDE-2.1.1 working by using this method, it couldn't find libcrypto or something. I did the same with Pico too. Good luck! Chris Pearce. From New Zealand : ) At 00:06 9/05/01 +0600, you wrote: >When I try to start Netscape in XWindow >my machine sais: >ld.so. failed: cant find shared library libXt.so.6.0 > >What can I do? > >Ismail Bulatovich from Russia. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 16:37: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from galactica.it (mail4.galactica.it [212.41.208.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC7037B423 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 16:37:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mauro.01@libero.it) Received: from due ([62.122.4.94]) by galactica.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Wed, 9 May 2001 01:36:41 +0200 Message-ID: <001701c0d818$b6cda8c0$0200a8c0@due> From: "Mauro" To: Subject: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 01:43:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I'm new in the FreeBSD world... I'm trying to understand if is possible to configure an US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI card with FBSD 4.3. I haven't found any information in the ML archive, and the page and links about ISDN in the Handbook is really outdated. Thanks in advance please, don't force my to use Win... mauro To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 22:31: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailin6.bigpond.com (juicer03.bigpond.com [139.134.6.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511D737B422 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 22:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.54]) by mailin6.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GD1ZKC00.18U; Wed, 9 May 2001 15:36:12 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-143-164.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.143.164]) by mail6.bigpond.com (Claudes-Sleepy-MailRouter V2.9c 11/8914006); 09 May 2001 15:30:38 Message-ID: <012901c0d849$37560390$0300a8c0@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Mauro" , References: <001701c0d818$b6cda8c0$0200a8c0@due> Subject: Re: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:30:53 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't know for sure about the ISDN product but most, if not all, internal PCI USR modems are winmodems. My experience with winmodems has been that they don't even pretend to work with other than Win98 or WinME, so if theres no relevant info at the USR website maybe you can "borrow" a WinNT4 or W2K system to test the thing. There was talk of a patch which I understand was borrowed from the linux brigade to make those winmodem disasters function in some fashion .... sounds to me like an attempt to do the sows ear trick though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mauro" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:43 AM Subject: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal > Hi! > I'm new in the FreeBSD world... I'm trying to understand if is possible to > configure an US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI card with FBSD 4.3. I haven't found > any information in the ML archive, and the page and links about ISDN in the > Handbook is really outdated. > > Thanks in advance > > please, don't force my to use Win... > mauro > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 8 22:49: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailin5.bigpond.com (juicer02.bigpond.com [139.134.6.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AE937B423; Tue, 8 May 2001 22:48:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.57]) by mailin5.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GD20EE00.I1H; Wed, 9 May 2001 15:54:14 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-143-164.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.143.164]) by mail2.bigpond.com (Claudes-Exclusive-MailRouter V2.9c 3/351036); 09 May 2001 15:48:42 Message-ID: <01f501c0d84b$bc53cfd0$0300a8c0@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Mauro" , , References: <001701c0d818$b6cda8c0$0200a8c0@due> <012901c0d849$37560390$0300a8c0@oracle> Subject: Re: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:48:54 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oops !!!! .... just noticed this came from newbies so I've forwarded it to questions before one of the experts gets stroppy :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Young" To: "Mauro" ; Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal > I don't know for sure about the ISDN product but most, if not all, > internal PCI USR modems are winmodems. > My experience with winmodems has been that they don't even pretend to > work with other than Win98 or WinME, so if theres no relevant info at > the USR website maybe you can "borrow" a WinNT4 or W2K system to test > the thing. > > There was talk of a patch which I understand was borrowed from the > linux brigade to make those winmodem disasters function in some > fashion .... sounds to me like an attempt to do the sows ear trick > though. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mauro" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:43 AM > Subject: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal > > > > Hi! > > I'm new in the FreeBSD world... I'm trying to understand if is > possible to > > configure an US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI card with FBSD 4.3. I > haven't found > > any information in the ML archive, and the page and links about ISDN > in the > > Handbook is really outdated. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > please, don't force my to use Win... > > mauro > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed May 9 1:37: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tiscalinet.it (mail-4.tiscalinet.it [195.130.225.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D214A37B422 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 01:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mauro.01@libero.it) Received: from mauro (62.11.60.131) by mail.tiscalinet.it (5.5.025) id 3AB891BB00A66A8C for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 9 May 2001 10:36:53 +0200 From: "Mauro 01" To: Subject: R: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:34:37 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <012901c0d849$37560390$0300a8c0@oracle> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for your reply! What I know is that this card works with NT 4.0 (Win2000 is not supported). I don't think this is sort of winmodem for ISDN, but a " "normal" internal ISDN modem. I think that the problem is to know wich kind of chipset this card use, or not!? I saw that other USR card are supported but not this type! So I've to lose any hope!? thanks again mauro -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Doug Young [mailto:dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au] Inviato: mercoledì 9 maggio 2001 7.31 A: Mauro; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Oggetto: Re: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal I don't know for sure about the ISDN product but most, if not all, internal PCI USR modems are winmodems. My experience with winmodems has been that they don't even pretend to work with other than Win98 or WinME, so if theres no relevant info at the USR website maybe you can "borrow" a WinNT4 or W2K system to test the thing. There was talk of a patch which I understand was borrowed from the linux brigade to make those winmodem disasters function in some fashion .... sounds to me like an attempt to do the sows ear trick though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mauro" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:43 AM Subject: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal > Hi! > I'm new in the FreeBSD world... I'm trying to understand if is possible to > configure an US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI card with FBSD 4.3. I haven't found > any information in the ML archive, and the page and links about ISDN in the > Handbook is really outdated. > > Thanks in advance > > please, don't force my to use Win... > mauro > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed May 9 1:59:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailin3.email.bigpond.com (juicer24.bigpond.com [139.134.6.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACC637B424; Wed, 9 May 2001 01:59:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.51]) by mailin3.email.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GD297N00.3LX; Wed, 9 May 2001 19:04:35 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-143-164.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.143.164]) by mail7.bigpond.com (Claudes-Silly-MailRouter V2.9c 15/9404802); 09 May 2001 18:59:01 Message-ID: <026901c0d866$53885000$0300a8c0@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Mauro 01" , , References: Subject: Re: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:59:13 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This really should have been sent to freebsd-questions .... the experts tend to get somewhat annoyed with people asking / answering techo questions in freebsd-newbies :) If the thing works in WinNT4 you "may" be in luck. I'm not that surprised about W2K because its had some significant changes. FreeBSD is reasonably forgiving with hardware so its worth trying the nearest best guess. Not having messed with ISDN cards (cost of ISDN in OZ is criminal) I haven't a clue whether the generic kernel has support for any of those devices, however a poke through both the "GENERIC" and the "LINT" kernel config files might be rewarding ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mauro 01" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 6:34 PM Subject: R: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal > Thanks for your reply! > What I know is that this card works with NT 4.0 (Win2000 is not supported). > I don't think this is sort of winmodem for ISDN, but a " "normal" internal > ISDN modem. I think that the problem is to know wich kind of chipset this > card use, or not!? I saw that other USR card are supported but not this > type! So I've to lose any hope!? thanks again > mauro > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: Doug Young [mailto:dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au] > Inviato: mercoledì 9 maggio 2001 7.31 > A: Mauro; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Oggetto: Re: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal > > > I don't know for sure about the ISDN product but most, if not all, > internal PCI USR modems are winmodems. > My experience with winmodems has been that they don't even pretend to > work with other than Win98 or WinME, so if theres no relevant info at > the USR website maybe you can "borrow" a WinNT4 or W2K system to test > the thing. > > There was talk of a patch which I understand was borrowed from the > linux brigade to make those winmodem disasters function in some > fashion .... sounds to me like an attempt to do the sows ear trick > though. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mauro" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:43 AM > Subject: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal > > > > Hi! > > I'm new in the FreeBSD world... I'm trying to understand if is > possible to > > configure an US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI card with FBSD 4.3. I > haven't found > > any information in the ML archive, and the page and links about ISDN > in the > > Handbook is really outdated. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > please, don't force my to use Win... > > mauro > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed May 9 5:41:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mta09.onebox.com (mta09.onebox.com [64.68.76.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A3C37B423; Wed, 9 May 2001 05:41:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ctjewett@zdnetonebox.com) Received: from onebox.com ([10.1.101.12]) by mta09.onebox.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.21 201-229-121-121-20010307) with SMTP id <20010509124128.HJUO18323.mta09.onebox.com@onebox.com>; Wed, 9 May 2001 05:41:28 -0700 Received: from [199.186.63.254] by onebox.com with HTTP; Wed, 09 May 2001 05:41:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 08:41:28 -0400 Subject: Re: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal From: "Christopher T. Jewett" To: "Doug Young" Cc: "Mauro 01" , , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1BoxPartBoundary98941208818460989412088" Message-Id: <20010509124128.HJUO18323.mta09.onebox.com@onebox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --1BoxPartBoundary98941208818460989412088 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm no expert, but I'm fairly certain your problem is the fact that the card is PCI, and not that it could be a winmodem or anything like that. Modems are fairly generic devices that respond to any command you send to your serial port. In the old days, most modems were external and plugged into your external serial port. When we got ISA modems, things were still a snap, since your computer just thought it was an internal serial port. Now-a-days, however, most modems are PCI, which is generally a good thing. The architecture of the modem, however, is still based on serial of days of yonder. The driver that's included with Windows NT 4.0 should be, therefor, more a PCI Serial port driver. Take a look at it under Windows NT 4.0 and see if it shows up on COM3 or COM4. If it does, that's likely what's happening. I've set up a PCI modem with BeOS before, but having been a more recent Unix convert, I've only had to deal with network cards on Unix. (Love my DSL!) Can anyone else point this guy to a PCI modem setup tutorial? Thanks, and good luck! Chris ---- "Doug Young" wrote: > This really should have been sent to freebsd-questions .... the > experts tend to get somewhat annoyed with people asking / answering > techo questions in freebsd-newbies :) > > If the thing works in WinNT4 you "may" be in luck. I'm not that > surprised about W2K because its had some significant changes. FreeBSD > is reasonably forgiving with hardware > so its worth trying the nearest best guess. Not having messed with > ISDN cards (cost of ISDN in OZ is criminal) I haven't a clue whether > the generic kernel has support for any of those devices, however a > poke through both the "GENERIC" and the "LINT" kernel config files > might be rewarding > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mauro 01" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 6:34 PM > Subject: R: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal > > > > Thanks for your reply! > > What I know is that this card works with NT 4.0 (Win2000 is not > supported). > > I don't think this is sort of winmodem for ISDN, but a " "normal" > internal > > ISDN modem. I think that the problem is to know wich kind of chipset > this > > card use, or not!? I saw that other USR card are supported but not > this > > type! So I've to lose any hope!? thanks again > > mauro > > > > -----Messaggio originale----- > > Da: Doug Young [mailto:dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au] > > Inviato: mercoledì 9 maggio 2001 7.31 > > A: Mauro; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > Oggetto: Re: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal > > > > > > I don't know for sure about the ISDN product but most, if not all, > > internal PCI USR modems are winmodems. > > My experience with winmodems has been that they don't even pretend > to > > work with other than Win98 or WinME, so if theres no relevant info > at > > the USR website maybe you can "borrow" a WinNT4 or W2K system to > test > > the thing. > > > > There was talk of a patch which I understand was borrowed from the > > linux brigade to make those winmodem disasters function in some > > fashion .... sounds to me like an attempt to do the sows ear trick > > though. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mauro" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:43 AM > > Subject: Support for US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI Internal > > > > > > > Hi! > > > I'm new in the FreeBSD world... I'm trying to understand if is > > possible to > > > configure an US Robotics ISDN Modem PCI card with FBSD 4.3. I > > haven't found > > > any information in the ML archive, and the page and links about > ISDN > > in the > > > Handbook is really outdated. > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > please, don't force my to use Win... > > > mauro > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > ___________________________________________________________________ To get your own FREE ZDNet Onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax, all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com --1BoxPartBoundary98941208818460989412088 Content-type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment Content-Description: vCard for Christopher Jewett YmVnaW46dmNhcmQNCnZlcnNpb246My4wDQpGTjpDaHJpc3RvcGhlciAgSmV3ZXR0DQpOOkpl d2V0dDtDaHJpc3RvcGhlciA7OzsNCkFEUjo7OzM2MjQgTmlhZ2FyYSBTdHJlZXQ7V2F5bmU7 TUk7NDgxODQtMTk1ODs7DQpFTUFJTDtUWVBFPWludGVybmV0OmN0amV3ZXR0QHpkbmV0b25l Ym94LmNvbQ0KVEVMO1RZUEU9dm9pY2UsZmF4LHByZWYsbXNnOig0MTUpIDQzMC0yMTYxIHgx MjUwDQpURUw7VFlQRT12b2ljZSxob21lOig3MzQpIDcyOS0yNjIwDQpURUw7VFlQRT12b2lj ZSx3b3JrOigyNDgpIDMyNC00NDU4eDEzOA0KVEVMO1RZUEU9cGFnZXI6KDczNCkgNTA0LTU1 ODYNClVSTDpodHRwOi8vd3d3LmthbnR1cy5jb20NCmVuZDp2Y2FyZA0K --1BoxPartBoundary98941208818460989412088 Content-type: application/octet-stream; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment bnRlbnQtVHJhbnNmZXItRW5jb2Rpbmc6IGJpbmFyeQ0KDQo= --1BoxPartBoundary98941208818460989412088 Content-type: application/octet-stream; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment bnRlbnQtVHJhbnNmZXItRW5jb2Rpbmc6IGJpbmFyeQ0KDQo= --1BoxPartBoundary98941208818460989412088 Content-type: application/octet-stream; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment bnRlbnQtVHJhbnNmZXItRW5jb2Rpbmc6IGJpbmFyeQ0KDQo= --1BoxPartBoundary98941208818460989412088-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed May 9 7: 3:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from icc.cgu.chel.su (gw.csu.ru [195.54.14.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00ED137B423 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 07:03:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fatkulin@mail.cgu.chel.su) Received: from mail.cgu.chel.su (mail.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.68]) by icc.cgu.chel.su (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f49E3Oq50224 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Wed, 9 May 2001 20:03:27 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from fatkulin@mail.cgu.chel.su) Received: from localhost (fatkulin@localhost) by mail.cgu.chel.su (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f49E3OW66217; Wed, 9 May 2001 20:03:24 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from fatkulin@mail.cgu.chel.su) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 20:03:23 +0600 (YEKST) From: "Fatkulin B. G." To: Doug Young Cc: Mauro , In-Reply-To: <012901c0d849$37560390$0300a8c0@oracle> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When I try to start Netscape in XWindow my machine sais: ld.so. failed: cant find shared library libXt.so.6.0 What can I do? Ismail Bulatovich from Russia. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed May 9 23:31:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f246.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077D537B422; Wed, 9 May 2001 23:31:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paragdabke@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 9 May 2001 23:31:35 -0700 Received: from 203.199.84.130 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2001 06:31:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.199.84.130] From: "Parag Dabke" To: newbies@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Please delete mail with subject 'Homepage' Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:01:35 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 May 2001 06:31:35.0998 (UTC) FILETIME=[DC9C45E0:01C0D91A] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, If you receive mail with subject 'Homepage' from me (Parag Dabke - paragd@bsil.com) then please delete it. It has attachment named homepage.HTML.vbs. It is a virus. I received this virus from list 'questions@freebsd.org'. Is it possible to have virus check for the mailing lists. Sorry for the trouble. Regards, Parag _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri May 11 14: 5:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.hccnet.nl (smtp.hccnet.nl [62.251.0.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C87B37B423 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:05:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon196405@bigfoot.com) Received: from simon by smtp.hccnet.nl via uds165-55.dial.hccnet.nl [62.251.55.165] with SMTP id WAA23454 (8.8.5/1.13); Fri, 11 May 2001 22:20:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Simon Siemonsma" To: "Manny Obrey" , Subject: RE: newbie cd question Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:22:19 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On the File menu you will see the function: Record CD from CD image. Use this one. The default file extension is cif, but you still should be able to select to select the ISO file here. (This is true for Easy CD creator 5) Simon Siemonsma -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Manny Obrey Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 7:14 PM To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: newbie cd question I am trying to install 4.3 from an iso i've downloaded from an ftp mirror. I have the iso on my windows desktop and I've got Adaptec Easy cd creator. Each time I try to create a bootable cd it asks me to insert bootable floppies into drive a. I then insert a floppy w/ the kern.flp image. After this I get the error message saying " ... Either the boot image could not be written to the temp dir or the floppy could not be read." well I know the floppy disk is good b/c I can boot into the freebsd install pgm using this disk. I don't seem to be able to create a bootable cd for a non-windows machine. When I'm asked to insert a bootable floppy Easy CD creator seems to want floppies containing config.sys and autoexec.bat. any hlp apprec, Manny _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri May 11 19:10: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5EC37B424 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4C2A1O24611 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 May 2001 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200105120210.f4C2A1O24611@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri May 11 21:27:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from silverchair.futureks.net (silverchair.futureks.net [209.134.106.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB7337B43E for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 21:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drwho@futureks.net) Received: from [209.134.106.70] (ict-106-70.futureks.net [209.134.106.70]) by silverchair.futureks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA04512 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 23:27:06 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 23:26:18 -0600 Subject: Want to get aquainted with FreeBSD From: Patrick Klee To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have a Walnut Creek FreeBSD 3.2 four CD set. And I tried to install, both the FreeBSD MBR and the standard MBR, but it says it didn't install. I want to keep trying and my next step is to upgrade to the wonderful 4.3. Also, I have a 1.0 gig and a 1.2 gig hard disk. Would someone mind e-mailign me a copy of what would be a good partition table for these drives and for BSD? Cheers, Patrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat May 12 1:32:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from icc.cgu.chel.su (gw.csu.ru [195.54.14.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E13D37B423 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 01:32:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fatkulin@mail.cgu.chel.su) Received: from mail.cgu.chel.su (mail.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.68]) by icc.cgu.chel.su (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4C8WYq94899 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Sat, 12 May 2001 14:32:37 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from fatkulin@mail.cgu.chel.su) Received: from localhost (fatkulin@localhost) by mail.cgu.chel.su (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4C8WYS16999; Sat, 12 May 2001 14:32:34 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from fatkulin@mail.cgu.chel.su) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 14:32:33 +0600 (YEKST) From: "Fatkulin B. G." To: Patrick Klee Cc: Subject: Re: Want to get aquainted with FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry, I can not help you because I am also newcomer to FreeBSD world. But I have a question to you by myself. May be you I more advanced. When I try to start Netscape in XWindow my machine sais: ld.so. failed: cant find shared library libXt.so.6.0 What can I do? Ismail Bulatovich from Russia. On Fri, 11 May 2001, Patrick Klee wrote: > Hi, > I have a Walnut Creek FreeBSD 3.2 four CD set. And I tried to install, > both the FreeBSD MBR and the standard MBR, but it says it didn't install. I > want to keep trying and my next step is to upgrade to the wonderful 4.3. > Also, I have a 1.0 gig and a 1.2 gig hard disk. Would someone mind > e-mailign me a copy of what would be a good partition table for these drives > and for BSD? > > Cheers, > Patrick > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat May 12 11:49:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81BEC37B424 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 11:49:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mail-service@friedhof2000.de) Received: from [195.20.224.219] (helo=mrvdom03.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14yeSL-0003MJ-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 May 2001 20:49:33 +0200 Received: from pd904dd79.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.4.221.121] helo=celeron) by mrvdom03.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14yeS9-0007fC-02 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 May 2001 20:49:21 +0200 From: Mail-Service To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Jetzt gewinnen, in über 100 Gewinnspielen! Reply-To: mail-service@friedhof2000.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: BulkMailer 2.0 (www.kroll-software.de) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 20:49:21 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Falls unerwünscht, bitte sofort löschen! Gewinn24.de meldet Sie jeden Monat bei über 100 der besten Gewinnspiele im Internet an. Sie sparen mit Gewinn24.de eine Menge Zeit und Geld. Für maximal 2,- DM pro Monat sind Sie dabei und haben jeden Monat Gewinnchancen auf viele tolle Preise im Gesamtwert von mehreren Millionen DM. http://www.Gewinn24.de/index.php3?partner=7294 *Bei Beschwerden bitte an alex-albert@01019freenet.de * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat May 12 11:56:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tiku.hut.fi (tiku.hut.fi [130.233.228.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C71C37B423 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 11:56:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sparvu@alpha.hut.fi) Received: from alpha.hut.fi (sparvu@alpha.hut.fi [130.233.224.50]) by tiku.hut.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA22317; Sat, 12 May 2001 21:56:07 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 21:56:07 +0300 (EET DST) From: Stefan Parvu To: Mail-Service Cc: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Jetzt_gewinnen=2C_in_=FCber_100_Gewinnsp?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ielen!?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Could you please stop posting German stuff here . . . Thanks, Stefan PS: there are users which does not speak German and is better to keep it in English On Sat, 12 May 2001, Mail-Service wrote: > Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 20:49:21 +0200 > From: Mail-Service > To: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" > Subject: Jetzt gewinnen, in über 100 Gewinnspielen! > > Falls unerwünscht, bitte sofort löschen! > > Gewinn24.de meldet Sie jeden Monat bei über 100 der > besten Gewinnspiele im Internet an. Sie sparen mit > Gewinn24.de eine Menge Zeit und Geld. Für maximal > 2,- DM pro Monat sind Sie dabei und haben jeden Monat > Gewinnchancen auf viele tolle Preise im Gesamtwert > von mehreren Millionen DM. > > http://www.Gewinn24.de/index.php3?partner=7294 > > *Bei Beschwerden bitte an alex-albert@01019freenet.de * > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat May 12 12:56:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.hccnet.nl (smtp.hccnet.nl [62.251.0.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9976737B449 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 12:56:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon196405@bigfoot.com) Received: from simon by smtp.hccnet.nl via uds165-59.dial.hccnet.nl [62.251.59.165] with SMTP for id VAA28491 (8.8.5/1.13); Sat, 12 May 2001 21:56:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Simon Siemonsma" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Jetzt_gewinnen=2C_in_=FCber_100_Gewinnspielen!?= Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 21:58:09 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Be glad you didn't understand it. I did tell him not to send spam. Simon Siemonsma -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Stefan Parvu Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 8:56 PM To: Mail-Service Cc: Subject: Re: Jetzt gewinnen, in über 100 Gewinnspielen! Could you please stop posting German stuff here . . . Thanks, Stefan PS: there are users which does not speak German and is better to keep it in English On Sat, 12 May 2001, Mail-Service wrote: > Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 20:49:21 +0200 > From: Mail-Service > To: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" > Subject: Jetzt gewinnen, in über 100 Gewinnspielen! > > Falls unerwünscht, bitte sofort löschen! > > Gewinn24.de meldet Sie jeden Monat bei über 100 der > besten Gewinnspiele im Internet an. Sie sparen mit > Gewinn24.de eine Menge Zeit und Geld. Für maximal > 2,- DM pro Monat sind Sie dabei und haben jeden Monat > Gewinnchancen auf viele tolle Preise im Gesamtwert > von mehreren Millionen DM. > > http://www.Gewinn24.de/index.php3?partner=7294 > > *Bei Beschwerden bitte an alex-albert@01019freenet.de * > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat May 12 19:48:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093CE37B423 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 19:48:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Received: from DougBarton.net (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA65941; Sat, 12 May 2001 19:48:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Message-ID: <3AFDF5EA.D5B63527@DougBarton.net> Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 19:48:10 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matti Paadar Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Update your page! References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010425090729.00bcfbc0@cc.oulu.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matti Paadar wrote: > > Hi! > > Please, update the page for newbies at > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html . There are wrong or missing > links. > > - latest mainstream release Fixed a couple days ago. > - download instructions I just fixed this one. It'll take a few hours for it to appear on the web page. Thanks, Doug -- I need someone really bad. Are you really bad? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat May 12 21:27:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B3A37B43E; Sat, 12 May 2001 21:27:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43B9A6ACBE; Sun, 13 May 2001 13:57:29 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 13:57:29 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: N6REJ Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, newbies@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: I'm leaving Message-ID: <20010513135729.B97162@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <002b01c0db54$e0febaa0$5599ca3f@disappointment> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002b01c0db54$e0febaa0$5599ca3f@disappointment>; from n6rej@tcsn.net on Sat, May 12, 2001 at 07:31:55PM -0700 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [copying -questions and -newbies] On Saturday, 12 May 2001 at 19:31:55 -0700, N6REJ wrote: > Due to the overwhelming lack of assitance I have gotten in the > freebsd-newbies, questions, and here, I am leaving FBSD. I tried several > times to get assitance for my install and each time was met with > non-responses. > There is one person though that I will give special mention to and that is > susy. She and I conversed on several occasions. She was'nt able to solve > my most necessary problem, but she was able to help me understand a few > things and I was able to aid her. Thanks susie. > There was another though I don't recall his name that mentioned to try ftp5 > which I did. But those two folks out of all of you, were the only 2 who > bothered to take any time to help someone brand new to BSD along. If you > EVER hope to make FBSD the leading Unice, I suggest you learn how to prevent > this in the future. As a person who has spent 25 yrs in this biz I'm not > easily swayed away from my endeavors, but I refuse to pound my head against > a brick wall. Well, we're sorry you're dissatisfied, but I suspect you're misunderstanding a few basic facts: 1. The lists are run by volunteers. Nobody's obliged to answer any question. As I say at http://echunga.lemis.com/references.html, it's up to you to formulate mail messages that people will want to answer. I personally peruse every message that goes through FreeBSD-questions. I answer the ones that: a. Are well prepared. b. Are easy to read. c. I know how to answer. I can't recall seeing any message from you, which means that maybe they didn't conform to (a) or (b). But there's another possibility: 2. There's only one mailing list which you should use for asking questions of the nature you're describing, and that's FreeBSD-questions. Given that you sent this message to -advocacy, where it is only marginally relevant, I suspect that you might have sent your questions to -newbies or -advocacy, both of which don't have this kind of question on their charter. If you send this kind of question to them, the correct response is to ignore them, though from time to time people will reply and point you to -questions. 3. Ultimately, any problem you have is your own personal property. Don't blame other people for it. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat May 12 21:37:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from intratec.com.mx (intratec.com.mx [200.33.246.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745C437B424; Sat, 12 May 2001 21:37:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbiquez@icsmx.com) Received: from mipc.intranet.com.mx (200.33.246.81) by intratec.com.mx with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0.2); Sat, 12 May 2001 23:37:18 -0600 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010512233123.026c4ec0@icsmx.com> X-Sender: jbiquez@icsmx.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 23:37:25 -0500 To: newbies@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Questions From: Jorge Biquez Subject: Re: I'm leaving In-Reply-To: <20010513135729.B97162@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <002b01c0db54$e0febaa0$5599ca3f@disappointment> <002b01c0db54$e0febaa0$5599ca3f@disappointment> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello. I don't remember seeing your messages either. Anyway. I'm still a newbie and I have been working with the products for almost 2 years. Yes sometimes you won't find an answer on the list to basic things but you have the archives to consult and you have the great manuals of Greg. Besides the site is freebsd.org is VERY helpful. My recommendation is not to give up and try to solve your problems. Sooner or later you will fine the best option is to stay with FreeBSD instead all the LINUX options. One thing for sure is that most of the people here won't solve you the problem BUT will give your hints and tips so you can solve it yourself and learn that way. I like that way better. Stay with the product, read and study A LOT... you will thank yourself in the near future. JB At 13:57 13/05/01 +0930, you wrote: >[copying -questions and -newbies] > >On Saturday, 12 May 2001 at 19:31:55 -0700, N6REJ wrote: > > Due to the overwhelming lack of assitance I have gotten in the > > freebsd-newbies, questions, and here, I am leaving FBSD. I tried several > > times to get assitance for my install and each time was met with > > non-responses. > > There is one person though that I will give special mention to and that is > > susy. She and I conversed on several occasions. She was'nt able to solve > > my most necessary problem, but she was able to help me understand a few > > things and I was able to aid her. Thanks susie. > > There was another though I don't recall his name that mentioned to try ftp5 > > which I did. But those two folks out of all of you, were the only 2 who > > bothered to take any time to help someone brand new to BSD along. If you > > EVER hope to make FBSD the leading Unice, I suggest you learn how to > prevent > > this in the future. As a person who has spent 25 yrs in this biz I'm not > > easily swayed away from my endeavors, but I refuse to pound my head against > > a brick wall. > >Well, we're sorry you're dissatisfied, but I suspect you're >misunderstanding a few basic facts: > >1. The lists are run by volunteers. Nobody's obliged to answer any > question. As I say at http://echunga.lemis.com/references.html, > it's up to you to formulate mail messages that people will want to > answer. > > I personally peruse every message that goes through > FreeBSD-questions. I answer the ones that: > > a. Are well prepared. > b. Are easy to read. > c. I know how to answer. > > I can't recall seeing any message from you, which means that maybe > they didn't conform to (a) or (b). But there's another > possibility: > >2. There's only one mailing list which you should use for asking > questions of the nature you're describing, and that's > FreeBSD-questions. Given that you sent this message to -advocacy, > where it is only marginally relevant, I suspect that you might > have sent your questions to -newbies or -advocacy, both of which > don't have this kind of question on their charter. If you send > this kind of question to them, the correct response is to ignore > them, though from time to time people will reply and point you to > -questions. > >3. Ultimately, any problem you have is your own personal property. > Don't blame other people for it. > >Greg >-- >Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key >See complete headers for address and phone numbers > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat May 12 23: 7: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from drake.host4u.net (drake.host4u.net [216.71.64.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEBE37B424; Sat, 12 May 2001 23:06:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsddiary@drake.host4u.net) Received: (from freebsddiary@localhost) by drake.host4u.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA29732; Sun, 13 May 2001 01:07:01 -0500 Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 01:07:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200105130607.BAA29732@drake.host4u.net> From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2001-04-22 - 2001-05-12 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 25-Apr : It is time for a move.... new job, new city http://freebsddiary.org/newjob.php?2 22-Apr : New website goes live Everything is ready http://freebsddiary.org/changes20010423.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat May 12 23:15:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from baku.host4u.net (baku.host4u.net [216.71.64.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5662637B424; Sat, 12 May 2001 23:15:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsddiary@baku.host4u.net) Received: (from freebsddiary@localhost) by baku.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA24618; Sun, 13 May 2001 01:07:01 -0500 Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 01:07:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200105130607.BAA24618@baku.host4u.net> From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2001-04-22 - 2001-05-12 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly with the aim of increasing awareness of what's available on the on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . No new articles have been posted during this period -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message