From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jul 8 1:30: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hamster.franken.de (hamster.franken.de [193.141.110.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1556137B401; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 01:30:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tanis@gaspode.franken.de) Received: from karnickel.franken.de (karnickel.franken.de [193.141.110.11]) by hamster.franken.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f688TpR10589; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:29:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tanis@gaspode.franken.de) Received: from gaspode.franken.de (lengfeld.core.main.franken.de [193.141.110.4]) by karnickel.franken.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f688Tpq28590; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:29:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tanis@gaspode.franken.de) Received: (from tanis@localhost) by gaspode.franken.de (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f688TlZ08504; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:29:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tanis) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:29:46 +0200 From: German Tischler To: Jorge Ramirez Cc: FreeBSD Newbies , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: DVD Player Message-ID: <20010708102946.A8343@gaspode.franken.de> References: <20010708052555.255DB37B407@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5-current-20010403i In-Reply-To: <20010708052555.255DB37B407@hub.freebsd.org>; from ijand2@yahoo.com on Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 01:25:48AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 01:25:48AM -0400, Jorge Ramirez wrote: > Does anyone know of some god dvd playing software for freebsd? The following works quite good for me: 1. install libSDL from the ports > cd /usr/ports/devel/sdl12 && make install 2. install the videolan client > cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.videolan.org:/var/cvs/videolan \ login # this will ask you for a password, just hit enter > cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.videolan.org:/var/cvs/videolan \ -z3 checkout vlc > cd vlc # the following is in bourne shell syntax > CFLAGS=3D-pthread && CXXFLAGS=3D-pthread && LDFLAGS=3D-pthread && \ export CFLAGS CXXFLAGS LDFLAGS && \ > sh configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --with-sdl=3D/usr/local =20 > gmake > gmake install 3. run /usr/local/bin/vlc --gt --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQEVAwUBO0gZ+r7hO6NLB/FvAQHt+wgApc0XhXDGsq7L3ZNiENbLeo+AcqNRQbjK 361jiHZUBwdw0BKCeqUYlCywtr1yaGAlfKaSY2cime7Ihqxr9sdfzJWPAAw6I45d cjlUkjGKzwizomqTyiIcHKFX7/BtaAac5a4e1IFJPjbjs3bYX8ZLJczMUv9QA81C 0cKJObbxjrBJu+LSkbBQqji06HBZdFzWgAj6Za42DfYeoDASUN/b97+iu4ejkOzi oKdvzy4tpdhtvdTbSLI5lZv5eRbjpJD3WKB1UmjW9Ez2QzcqLiaIvXyR1VzXTJU4 2itYPfHEnrhi5vmIqYs9RueRwURRHw1xT7XeJSIINBH9oiYIIZ0qLg== =w0gQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jul 8 4:48:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F8B37B403 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 04:48:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from js@jonsonn.de) Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15JD2t-0004Xb-00; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 13:48:15 +0200 Received: from b07d6.pppool.de ([213.7.7.214] helo=jonsonn) by mrvdom01.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15JD2s-0003km-00; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 13:48:15 +0200 From: "Jonas Sonntag" To: "jon" , Subject: AW: installation help Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 13:51:17 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010708044852.5C59D37B407@hub.freebsd.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi i had the same problems when installing. did you try to use the auto defaults for disk slices? worked then on my machine. j. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]Im Auftrag von jon Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. Juli 2001 06:42 An: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Betreff: installation help hello all am installing 4.3 & run on these problems : Warning: Unable to swap /dev/ad0s3b: device not configured. This may cause installation to fail at some point if you don't have enough memory. & Unable to make new root file system on /dev/ad0s3a! Command status returned 1. here is the way the installation labeled the partition : ad0s3a / 100MB ufs y as0s3b swap 131MB swap ad0s3e /var 20MB ufs y ad0s3f /usr 1450MB ufs y have read trouble.txt & nothing. thanks. __________________________________ www.edsamail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jul 8 5: 2:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hamster.franken.de (hamster.franken.de [193.141.110.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F53537B401; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 05:02:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tanis@gaspode.franken.de) Received: from karnickel.franken.de (karnickel.franken.de [193.141.110.11]) by hamster.franken.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f68C20R17384; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:02:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tanis@gaspode.franken.de) Received: from gaspode.franken.de (lengfeld.core.main.franken.de [193.141.110.4]) by karnickel.franken.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f68C1xq41461; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:02:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tanis@gaspode.franken.de) Received: (from tanis@localhost) by gaspode.franken.de (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f68C1xt62886; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:01:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tanis) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:01:59 +0200 From: German Tischler To: Jorge Ramirez Cc: FreeBSD Newbies , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: DVD Player Message-ID: <20010708140159.A62861@gaspode.franken.de> References: <20010708052555.255DB37B407@hub.freebsd.org> <20010708102946.A8343@gaspode.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5-current-20010403i In-Reply-To: <20010708102946.A8343@gaspode.franken.de>; from tanis@gaspode.franken.de on Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 10:29:46AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 10:29:46AM +0200, German Tischler wrote: > On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 01:25:48AM -0400, Jorge Ramirez wrote: > > Does anyone know of some god dvd playing software for freebsd? >=20 > The following works quite good for me: >=20 > 1. install libSDL from the ports > > cd /usr/ports/devel/sdl12 && make install Change this to: install libSDL the way that a vanilla libSDL does it. (don't change any of the default names used) The vlc configure script doesn't play together with the way that the ports version installs the library. --gt --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQEVAwUBO0hLtr7hO6NLB/FvAQGfvAgAif6LNh1fRFbOYi7HbFIZsH6qMEaBfMTd jAgnIGNcXZ54/Fr3qeQKMKW8zPpAe5M2BxGtwYFgl+l2bF1PCkjltEvreJSIcMeZ qpkfr+k0Uk8kk+rNn/OLTqajALKuRgtY0sETcTN7+wpuSRPWADCPa1S/txbA9GEY P0jDw6pmfIqncc8lYwvegV+4VMZerEkG+n2z7gfwl6cUVGEBPyOcUoDCtcxDF6z9 DtaddSlWrYXt3k/T6Jy8hb7X2YrD1b3ry9i7B+f/TuYqMnpLQpPYsN5gn2UXKf5O KkRSvh0dp+5hWHmXZtRvjuKvLjIlVtnCuqnZ9GkAkL1xjhjWgvsbcQ== =J1mg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jul 8 21:41:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C93137B408 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 21:41:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlduke@concentric.net) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id f694fRR16595 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 00:41:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ts006d10.mer-id.concentric.net (ts006d10.mer-id.concentric.net [208.177.68.22]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id AAA00702; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 00:41:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 21:39:21 -0600 (MDT) From: ML Duke To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone know of a good bulk mail tool? I've got a good script for mail, but my ISP is not playing by proper rules. Need something that lies to the SMTP server, like pine does. Thanks. ML Duke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jul 8 23:31:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from scooby.unagi.org.uk (scooby.unagi.org.uk [195.92.225.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F1C37B403 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 23:31:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevinb@unagi.org.uk) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by scooby.unagi.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 9.99 #3) id 15JVTS-0003GV-00; Mon, 09 Jul 2001 07:28:54 +0000 Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 07:28:54 +0000 (GMT) From: kevinb To: ML Duke Cc: Subject: Re: mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Simple DONT bulm mail its anoyin and ISPs dont like it and theres a reason for it. KevB "Works for an ISP" On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, ML Duke wrote: > Anyone know of a good bulk mail tool? > I've got a good script for mail, but my ISP is not playing > by proper rules. Need something that lies to the SMTP server, > like pine does. > > Thanks. > > ML Duke > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 4:33:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF89437B401 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 04:33:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e.knol@rubicon-bv.com) Received: from list1.xs4all.nl (list1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.52]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07120 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:33:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from root@localhost) by list1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22856; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:33:39 +0200 (CEST) From: "Edwig Knol" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Via: imploder /usr/local/lib/mail/news2mail/news2mail at list1.xs4all.nl Subject: apache under freebsd Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:35:36 +0200 Organization: XS4ALL Internet BV Message-ID: <9ic4qc$4fv$1@news1.xs4all.nl> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've a webpage with some links to pdf files. When I try to open these documents sometime it works mostly not and more of all not all. Does anybody know what the problem can be. On my old server they working all fine. The mime type file is still the same. The documents are still the same. If I do a get via telnet and pipe this to a file. The files are exactly the same as on my old server. If I do a save as of the pdf document I can read it if it's local but not right away. I don't have any idea anymore. Can somebody help me with this? I'm running freebsd 4.3 and apache 1.3.14 #Edwig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 5: 6:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cordelia.tachief.com (host213-121-122-144.btopenworld.com [213.121.122.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0FC37B401 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 05:06:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@cordelia.tachief.com) Received: (from nick@localhost) by cordelia.tachief.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f69C4Pd02658; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:04:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nick) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:04:24 +0100 From: Nick Jones To: Edwig Knol Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache under freebsd Message-ID: <20010709130424.A2593@cordelia> References: <9ic4qc$4fv$1@news1.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <9ic4qc$4fv$1@news1.xs4all.nl>; from e.knol@rubicon-bv.com on Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 01:35:36PM +0200 X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ X-Info: http://www.tachief.com X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/4.3-STABLE (i386) X-Uptime: 1:01PM up 11:13, 1 user, load averages: 0.04, 0.05, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Edwig Knol (e.knol@rubicon-bv.com) wrote: > I've a webpage with some links to pdf files. When I try to open these > documents sometime it works mostly not and more of all not all. Does anybody > know what the problem can be. On my old server they working all fine. The > mime type file is still the same. The documents are still the same. If I do > a get via telnet and pipe this to a file. The files are exactly the same as > on my old server. If I do a save as of the pdf document I can read it if > it's local but not right away. I don't have any idea anymore. Can somebody > help me with this? > > I'm running freebsd 4.3 and apache 1.3.14 > > > #Edwig > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message Upgrade your version of Apache. There was a problem with the PDF byteserving code that was fixed in 1.3.18 (iirc) which caused problems similar to the one you have mentioned. - Nick nick@tachief.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 5:31:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.camelot.de (mailout.camelot.de [217.19.160.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F28937B405 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 05:31:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kalle@camelot.de) Received: from xerxes (dsl-sa0201.camelot.de [217.19.175.3]) by mail.camelot.de (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f69CVMB07381; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 14:31:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <039201c10872$ddfa8000$cb48fea9@xerxes> From: "kalle (Camelot)" To: "ML Duke" , References: Subject: Re: mail Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 14:29:57 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Anyone know of a good bulk mail tool? Yes. But nobody should tell You.... > I've got a good script for mail, but my ISP is not playing > by proper rules. must be a good provider..... --cut-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 5:31:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267C837B406 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 05:31:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b007.otenet.gr [195.167.121.135]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f69CVNC25016; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:31:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f69CVLa22880; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:31:21 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:31:20 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: ML Duke Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mail Message-ID: <20010709153119.A22506@hades.hell.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mlduke@concentric.net on Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 09:39:21PM -0600 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3A 75 52 EB F1 58 56 0D - C5 B8 21 B6 1B 5E 4A C2 X-URL: http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: ML Duke Subject: mail Date: Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 09:39:21PM -0600 > Anyone know of a good bulk mail tool? > I've got a good script for mail, but my ISP is not playing > by proper rules. No, your ISP is fine. It is *YOU* who is not playing by the rules. Do NOT bulk mail. For any reason! -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 5:36:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from elmls01.ce.mediaone.net (elmls01.ce.mediaone.net [24.131.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02B537B405 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 05:36:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick9@mediaone.net) Received: from mediaone.net (el07-24-29-245-171.ce.mediaone.net [24.29.245.171]) by elmls01.ce.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA16512; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 07:36:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B49A64A.D3A00A0B@mediaone.net> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 07:40:42 -0500 From: patrick9 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,de,fr,fr-BE,el,es-MX,es-ES,nl,nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-newbies To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 6: 1:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from elmls01.ce.mediaone.net (elmls01.ce.mediaone.net [24.131.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCD837B405 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 06:01:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick9@mediaone.net) Received: from mediaone.net (el07-24-29-245-171.ce.mediaone.net [24.29.245.171]) by elmls01.ce.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA18635; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 08:01:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B49AC2F.1941564@mediaone.net> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 08:05:52 -0500 From: patrick9 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,de,fr,fr-BE,el,es-MX,es-ES,nl,nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: (no subject) References: <200107091256.f69CuZv02816@chmls17.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I apologize for the unintended spamming. Visionquest223@yahoo.com wrote: > Come on! the instructions for unsubscribing are at the bottom of > the damn email!!!! You just spammed the whole list! > > On 9 Jul 01, at 7:40, patrick9 wrote: > > > unsubscribe freebsd-newbies > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 7:13:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail-srv1.micron.com (masquerade.micron.com [137.201.242.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A9137B405 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 07:13:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgnovak@micron.com) Received: from mail-srv1.micron.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail-srv1.micron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13641 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 08:13:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ntexchange01.micron.com (ntexchange01 [137.201.104.84]) by mail-srv1.micron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13619; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 08:13:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ntexchange01.micron.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3M9RH7JN>; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 08:13:22 -0600 Message-ID: <3607D767B8E1D311A24F0008C7590A960916CD25@ntexchange07.micron.com> From: jgnovak To: "'jon'" Cc: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: installation help Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 08:13:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi jon Sounds like the install is not happy with whatever you are doing for the root and swap partitions. Can you post a stepo by step summary of what you are doing p to this point? -----Original Message----- From: jon [mailto:jjonphl@edsamail.com.ph] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 10:42 PM To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: installation help hello all am installing 4.3 & run on these problems : Warning: Unable to swap /dev/ad0s3b: device not configured. This may cause installation to fail at some point if you don't have enough memory. & Unable to make new root file system on /dev/ad0s3a! Command status returned 1. here is the way the installation labeled the partition : ad0s3a / 100MB ufs y as0s3b swap 131MB swap ad0s3e /var 20MB ufs y ad0s3f /usr 1450MB ufs y have read trouble.txt & nothing. thanks. __________________________________ www.edsamail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 12: 6:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4312037B405 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:06:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA1C69; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:12:45 -0700 Message-ID: <3B4A00A6.E463FD36@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 12:06:14 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heiko Recktenwald Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > > > And the full source for everything is available and a license so free it > > makes the Linux look miserly. FreeBSD comes with very good > > GNU is something else. I like it subversiv potential ;-) Subversiveness is great if what you are trying to subvert is evil. But proprietary software is not evil (though specific instances of it may be). The GPL starts with a premise that a specific act of sharing is good, erroneously derives that any specific instance of not sharing is evil, then concludes that all proprietary software is evil. This would be like starting from the premise that giving a sandwich to a hungry man is good, and concluding that all delis are evil. > The BSD license is less stress for Bill Gates or Cupertino. That is a Good Thing(tm). Our goal should be to improve FreeBSD, not to sabotage other systems. I see no point or purpose in deliberately stressing Bill and Steve. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 12:16:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail-srv1.micron.com (masquerade.micron.com [137.201.242.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D44837B40B for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:16:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgnovak@micron.com) Received: from mail-srv1.micron.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail-srv1.micron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07693 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:16:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ntexchange01.micron.com (ntexchange01 [137.201.104.84]) by mail-srv1.micron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07674; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:16:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ntexchange01.micron.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3M9R2ZHD>; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:16:12 -0600 Message-ID: <3607D767B8E1D311A24F0008C7590A960916CD26@ntexchange07.micron.com> From: jgnovak To: "'David Johnson'" Cc: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Questions Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:16:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, got to get on my soap box. Proprietary software is evil when: a) it costs a lot of money b) it costs a lot of money and is full of 'bugs' c) is costs a lot of money and is full of 'bugs' and they deny it d) is costs a lot of money and is full of 'bugs' and the deny it, and they try to squish less expensive or free software developers that make a superior product. e) all of the above I answered 'e' to this question (off my soap box) -----Original Message----- From: David Johnson [mailto:djohnson@acuson.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:06 PM To: Heiko Recktenwald Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Questions Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > > > And the full source for everything is available and a license so free it > > makes the Linux look miserly. FreeBSD comes with very good > > GNU is something else. I like it subversiv potential ;-) Subversiveness is great if what you are trying to subvert is evil. But proprietary software is not evil (though specific instances of it may be). The GPL starts with a premise that a specific act of sharing is good, erroneously derives that any specific instance of not sharing is evil, then concludes that all proprietary software is evil. This would be like starting from the premise that giving a sandwich to a hungry man is good, and concluding that all delis are evil. > The BSD license is less stress for Bill Gates or Cupertino. That is a Good Thing(tm). Our goal should be to improve FreeBSD, not to sabotage other systems. I see no point or purpose in deliberately stressing Bill and Steve. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 12:37:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.hccnet.nl (smtp.hccnet.nl [62.251.0.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE75837B401 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:37:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon196405@bigfoot.com) Received: from none52aqg24pmy by smtp.hccnet.nl via uds171-55.dial.hccnet.nl [62.251.55.171] with SMTP for id VAA06655 (8.8.5/1.13); Mon, 9 Jul 2001 21:37:01 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Simon Siemonsma" To: Subject: how to resolve IRQ conflict between network and audio card Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 21:36:09 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an IRQ conflict between my NE2000 compatible network card (ISA) and my audio card (PCI). Both are plug and play and want to use IRQ 5. The strange thing is that in W'2000 the NE2000 compatible card uses IRQ 10, and the audio card uses IRQ 11 (together with my ISDN modem, the PCI to USB controller, and my AGP graphics card. So they don't conflict there. At the moment it is not really a big problem, but I'll need the network card in the future to get ADSL up and running. Does anyone has any idea on how to solve this. It is important that at the end both cards work with freeBSD as well as with W'2000. Best regards Simon Siemonsma To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 12:38:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8333137B401 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:38:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from visionquest223@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO northstarr6) (64.222.70.108) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 2001 19:38:15 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: Visionquest223@yahoo.com To: David Johnson Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:43:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Questions Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <3B4A00A6.E463FD36@acuson.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-Id: <20010709193815.8333137B401@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As much as I like Unix/Linux/FreeBSD (I use and support all of the above) better than windows (mostly because of the granularity of control that I have, partly because I can use an recommend free/gpl software for almost any given need) I have to say that Bill Gates has done extremely well for himself. In the end run, his job as the owner of the company is to watch the bottom line, and make as much money as he possibly can. He does that well. Though I occasionally find myself cursing the Operating Systems that his company has created, I must certainly respect the man's accomplishments. On 9 Jul 01, at 12:06, David Johnson wrote: > Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > > > > > And the full source for everything is available and a license so free it > > > makes the Linux look miserly. FreeBSD comes with very good > > > > GNU is something else. I like it subversiv potential ;-) > > Subversiveness is great if what you are trying to subvert is evil. > > But proprietary software is not evil (though specific instances of it > may be). The GPL starts with a premise that a specific act of sharing is > good, erroneously derives that any specific instance of not sharing is > evil, then concludes that all proprietary software is evil. This would > be like starting from the premise that giving a sandwich to a hungry man > is good, and concluding that all delis are evil. > > > The BSD license is less stress for Bill Gates or Cupertino. > > That is a Good Thing(tm). Our goal should be to improve FreeBSD, not to > sabotage other systems. I see no point or purpose in deliberately > stressing Bill and Steve. > > David > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 12:47:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D6B37B405 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:47:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA339D; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:53:32 -0700 Message-ID: <3B4A0A35.30292D4C@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 12:47:01 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jgnovak Cc: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Questions References: <3607D767B8E1D311A24F0008C7590A960916CD26@ntexchange07.micron.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org jgnovak wrote: > > Ok, got to get on my soap box. > > Proprietary software is evil when: > a) it costs a lot of money > b) it costs a lot of money and is full of 'bugs' > c) is costs a lot of money and is full of 'bugs' and they deny it > d) is costs a lot of money and is full of 'bugs' and the deny it, and they > try to squish less expensive or free software > developers that make a superior product. > e) all of the above > > I answered 'e' to this question Since every category you list includes "costs a lot of money", I'll stick with discussing A. By "lots" I assume that you mean either it cost more money than you are willing to pay or that it cost more than what you consider a "just" price. Wake up, smell the coffee, and look reality in the face. Most things in life cost more than you are willing to pay. Get over it. Realize that you do not have to buy them. I am aware of no proprietary software that is necessary to your life, liberty or _pursuit_ of happiness. You can always make do with something else or even forgo the category completely. And the concept of a "just" price in economics is a medieval concept. Pick up some more modern economic texts, like circa 1500 or later. I can think of lots of possibly valid reasons why proprietary software might be evil, but monetary cost is not one of them. Consider the monetary cost for Internet Exploder... David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 14:33:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail-srv1.micron.com (masquerade.micron.com [137.201.242.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B5437B406 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 14:33:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgnovak@micron.com) Received: from mail-srv1.micron.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail-srv1.micron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01698 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:33:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ntexchange01.micron.com (ntexchange01 [137.201.104.84]) by mail-srv1.micron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01684; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:33:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ntexchange01.micron.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3M9RJ1TG>; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:33:34 -0600 Message-ID: <3607D767B8E1D311A24F0008C7590A960916CD27@ntexchange07.micron.com> From: jgnovak To: "'Simon Siemonsma'" Cc: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: how to resolve IRQ conflict between network and audio card Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:33:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Simon Without knowing what you have tried so far I would suggest this: First edit and re-compile your kernel so you are not running on the generic on3 that installs by default. The dir is /usr/src/sys/i386/conf, in there you will find GENERIC and LINT, i recommend that you read LINT, then copy and rename the GENERIC kernel, then edit it to match your hardware. During the custom kernel edit you will get a chance to specify the IRQ and IOMEM address for these devices. Once again, without knowing much about your hardware, I recommend that you keep the audio card on IRQ 5 and moe the NIC to IRQ 10 or 3, or whatever you have that is available, just don't use IRQ 2 (use IQ 9 instead of 2). hope this helps out. -----Original Message----- From: Simon Siemonsma [mailto:simon196405@bigfoot.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:36 PM To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: how to resolve IRQ conflict between network and audio card I have an IRQ conflict between my NE2000 compatible network card (ISA) and my audio card (PCI). Both are plug and play and want to use IRQ 5. The strange thing is that in W'2000 the NE2000 compatible card uses IRQ 10, and the audio card uses IRQ 11 (together with my ISDN modem, the PCI to USB controller, and my AGP graphics card. So they don't conflict there. At the moment it is not really a big problem, but I'll need the network card in the future to get ADSL up and running. Does anyone has any idea on how to solve this. It is important that at the end both cards work with freeBSD as well as with W'2000. Best regards Simon Siemonsma To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 16:22:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C8A1737B405 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 16:21:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from agn_nair@yahoo.com) Received: from cc403125-a.jrsycty1.nj.home.com (HELO cc403125a) (65.2.181.122) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 2001 23:21:58 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <002d01c108cd$79b4e260$7ab50241@jrsycty1.nj.home.com> From: "A. G. Nair" To: , Subject: Help with installing FreeBSD 4.3 on Laptop Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 19:18:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C108AB.E808B880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C108AB.E808B880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm trying to install and run FreeBSD 4.3 release on my Laptop 300 MHz Pentium II IBM ThinkPad 380Z 96MB RAM and 20GB Hard Drive This is a new blank Hard Drive and I've DDO(Dynamic Drive Overlay) by = Ontrack installed since the BIOS doesn't support drives over 8.4GB.=20 I have 3 partitions on the disk one for XOSL(Extended Operating System = Loader) and partition manager, the next one for DOS and the other two = for FreeBSD. I want to make the machine work as Windows 2000 and FreeBSD = dual-boot. Thought I'll install FreeBSD first and make it work and then = install Win2K once I get the config correctly. I chose not to install = Boot Manager since XOSL was installed. The problem is I cannot get FBSD = to boot after installation..... When I boot after installing it says the following messages: Not ufs Not ufs No /boot/loader >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernal boot: Not ufs No /kernal >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernal boot: I tried typing all combinations on the boot prompt but it always says = "Not ufs". It doesn't seem to me like a problem with the disk geometry. = I tried running the fixit floppy and mounted the ad0s3 slice. There are = files called loader, boot0, boot1 and boot2 under the /boot directory. = Does anyone have any idea how I can make this work? What am I doing = wrong here?? Please help...... Thanks in advance... Nair Additional Info about the hard drive---- The FreeBSD fdisk screen looks like below: FDisk Disk name: ad0 Disk Geometry: 2584 cyls/240 Heads/63 Heads =3D 39070080 = Sectors(19077MB) Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc = Subtype Flags -63 126 62 - 6 = unused 0 =20 63 45297 45359 ad0s1 1 = unknown 120 =20 45360 1028160 1073519 ad0s2 2 fat = 6 1073520 1013040 2086559 ad0s3 3 freebsd = 165 C 2086560 2615760 4702319 ad0s4 3 freebsd = 165 =20 4702320 34367697 39070016 - 6 unused = 0 During installation I configured slices in DiskLabel Editor screen as = follows: Disklabel Editor Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s3 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s4 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Part Mount Size Newfs =20 ad0s2 502MB DOS ad0s3a / 494MB Y ad0s4b swap 384MB Y ad0s4e /var 50MB Y ad0s4f /usr 843MB Y View of Ranish Partition Manager on the disk is as below: Hard Disk 1 19077 Mbytes[2584 Cyls x 240 Heads x 63 Sectors ] using LBA # Type Row File System Type Starting(CHS) = Ending(CHS) Partition Size(KB) 0 MBR Master Boot Record 0x0x1 = 0x0x1 0 1 Pri Unused 0x0x2 = 0x0x63 31 2 Pri 1 QNY 4.x 0x1x1 = 2x239x63 22,648 3 >Pri 2 DOS FAT-16 3x0x1 = 70x239x63 514,080 4 Pri 3 FreeBSD 71x0x1 = 37x239x63 506,520 5 Pri 4 FreeBSD 138x0x1 = 310x239x63 1,307,880 6 Pri Unused 311x0x1 = 2583x238x63 17,183,848 ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C108AB.E808B880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I'm trying to install and run FreeBSD 4.3 release on my = Laptop
300 MHz Pentium II IBM ThinkPad 380Z
96MB RAM and 20GB Hard Drive
 
This is a new blank Hard Drive and I've DDO(Dynamic Drive = Overlay) by=20 Ontrack installed since the BIOS doesn't support drives over 8.4GB. =
I have 3 partitions on the disk one for XOSL(Extended Operating = System=20 Loader) and partition manager, the next one for DOS and the = other two=20 for FreeBSD. I want to make the machine work as Windows 2000 and FreeBSD = dual-boot. Thought I'll install FreeBSD first and make it work and then = install=20 Win2K once I get the config correctly. I chose not to install Boot = Manager since=20 XOSL was installed. The problem is I cannot get FBSD to boot after=20 installation.....
 
When I boot after installing it says the following messages:
Not ufs
Not ufs
No /boot/loader
 
>> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernal
boot:
Not ufs
No /kernal
 
>> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernal
boot:
 
I tried typing all combinations on the boot prompt but it always = says "Not=20 ufs". It doesn't seem to me like a problem with the disk = geometry. =20 I tried running the fixit floppy and mounted the ad0s3 slice. There = are=20 files called loader, boot0, boot1 and boot2 under the /boot directory. = Does=20 anyone have any idea how I can make this work? What am I doing wrong = here??=20 Please help......
 
Thanks in advance...
Nair
 
Additional Info about the hard drive----
The FreeBSD fdisk screen looks like below:
 
FDisk
Disk name: ad0
Disk Geometry: 2584 cyls/240 Heads/63 Heads =3D 39070080=20 Sectors(19077MB)
 
Offset        =20 Size(ST)       End   =20          =20 Name      PType    =20 Desc           =20 Subtype    Flags
-63    =         =20 126       =20        =20 62            = ;    =20 -        =       =20 6            =   =20 unused         0  =  =20             =    =20
63          &n= bsp;  =20 45297          =20 45359         =20 ad0s1     =20 1            =   =20 unknown      120   =20        
45360       =20 1028160     = 1073519      =20 ad0s2     =20 2            =  =20 fat           =20       6
1073520    1013040    =20 2086559      = ad0s3     =20 3    =           =20 freebsd        165   =20         C
2086560    2615760    =20 4702319      = ad0s4     =20 3    =           =20 freebsd        165  &nb= sp;     
4702320    34367697   =20 39070016   -       =20       =20 6            =   =20 unused         0
 
 
During installation I configured slices in DiskLabel Editor=20 screen as follows:
Disklabel Editor
Disk: ad0        Partition name:=20 ad0s3        Free: 0 blocks = (0MB)
Disk: ad0        Partition name:=20 ad0s4        Free: 0 blocks = (0MB)
 
Part       =20 Mount      Size   =20      Newfs   
ad0s2     <none>   = ;=20 502MB      DOS
ad0s3a   =20 /            =   =20 494MB       Y
ad0s4b   =20 swap       384MB   &nbs= p;   Y
ad0s4e   =20 /var          50MB = ;       Y
ad0s4f    =20 /usr          843MB&nbs= p;     Y
 
 
View of Ranish Partition Manager on the disk is as = below:
 
Hard Disk 1 19077 Mbytes[2584 Cyls x 240 Heads x 63 Sectors=20 ]
using LBA
 
#    Type    = Row    File=20 System Type       =20 Starting(CHS)     Ending(CHS)    =         Partition Size(KB)
0   =20 MBR           &nbs= p;  Master=20 Boot Record    0x0x1        =            =20 0x0x1           &n= bsp;         =20     0
1   =20 Pri           &nbs= p;     Unused      = ;            =     0x0x2   =20             =    =20    =20 0x0x63           &= nbsp;           31=
2   =20 Pri        1   &nb= sp;    QNY=20 4.x            =    =20     0x1x1        =    =20            =20 2x239x63            =20     22,648
3  >Pri       =20 2        DOS=20 FAT-16           &= nbsp;  3x0x1        &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;70x239x63          =20     514,080
4    Pri       =20 3       =20 FreeBSD           =         71x0x1   &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;     37x239x63   =20          506,520
5    Pri       =20 4       =20 FreeBSD           =         138x0x1   =             &= nbsp; =20 310x239x63           =20 1,307,880
6   =20 Pri           &nbs= p;      Unused   =20            =20      =20 311x0x1           =        2583x238x63   &n= bsp;     =20 17,183,848
 
 
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 16:23:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (draco.over-yonder.net [198.78.58.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0BA37B405 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 16:23:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gh@over-yonder.net) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 1012) id 72F2562D0C; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 18:23:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 18:23:48 -0500 From: GH To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: ML Duke , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mail Message-ID: <20010709182348.G85805@over-yonder.net> References: <20010709153119.A22506@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010709153119.A22506@hades.hell.gr>; from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr on Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 03:31:20PM +0300 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 03:31:20PM +0300, some SMTP stream spewed forth: > From: ML Duke > Subject: mail > Date: Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 09:39:21PM -0600 > > > Anyone know of a good bulk mail tool? > > I've got a good script for mail, but my ISP is not playing > > by proper rules. > > No, your ISP is fine. It is *YOU* who is not playing by the rules. > Do NOT bulk mail. For any reason! I disagree here. There are plenty of good reasons to bulk many. (This list (well, maybe not *this* list, but the freebsd lists) is one.) Be reasonable and accurate. Bulk Mail != Spam Spam, if you want to, but that is a different issue, and expect absolutely no sympathy -- I will personally smack you. > -giorgos gh -- > What, no one sings along with Ricky Martin anymore? My kid sister does (but then, she prefers pico to vi ...) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian, alt.sysadmin.recovery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 17: 8:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (draco.over-yonder.net [198.78.58.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F91A37B401 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 17:08:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gh@over-yonder.net) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 1012) id 89CB062D0A; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 19:08:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 19:08:28 -0500 From: GH To: Visionquest223@yahoo.com Cc: David Johnson , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Questions Message-ID: <20010709190828.H85805@over-yonder.net> References: <3B4A00A6.E463FD36@acuson.com> <20010709193815.8333137B401@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010709193815.8333137B401@hub.freebsd.org>; from Visionquest223@yahoo.com on Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 03:43:55PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 03:43:55PM -0400, some SMTP stream spewed forth: > As much as I like Unix/Linux/FreeBSD (I use and support all of the > above) better than windows (mostly because of the granularity of > control that I have, partly because I can use an recommend free/gpl > software for almost any given need) I have to say that Bill Gates > has done extremely well for himself. In the end run, his job as the > owner of the company is to watch the bottom line, and make as > much money as he possibly can. He does that well. Though I > occasionally find myself cursing the Operating Systems that his > company has created, I must certainly respect the man's > accomplishments. People should realize that the nature of the Windows operating system need not necessarily be a direct result of its being closed-source. poor planning, poor architecture, poor implementation, time constraints, poor management may all be contributing factors to the development of a 'crappy product'. Any open-source project could very well be in the same sad shape as Windows with the same issues at hand. I have seen many open source projects which sucks far *worse* than windows. The XFree86 project is close, but not quite as bad. (Not to knock XF86, it is alright, it just sucks -- no shame, it's all good brotha.) > > > The BSD license is less stress for Bill Gates or Cupertino. > > > > That is a Good Thing(tm). Our goal should be to improve FreeBSD, not to > > sabotage other systems. I see no point or purpose in deliberately > > stressing Bill and Steve. I agree completely here. I think we can do much more for everybody if we focus on doing the best we can for everything. Idealistic thinking, I know, but look at how far the FreeBSD project has come based on these same ideals. Rather than focusing energy on 'destroying' proprietary (or commercial) software, we can dedicate that energy to being productive. I could spend just as much time beating you with a stick as I could developing a better product. Guess which one I would rather do? (Yes, beat you with a stick -- where 'you' is any random Bad Guy -- but that is not the point. It would be Far Better for me to be productive.) > > David gh -- > What, no one sings along with Ricky Martin anymore? 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Ęîěďŕíčč "Đóńńęčé Ńŕä" (095) 922-4686 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 17:28:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9702237B406 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 17:28:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b003.otenet.gr [195.167.121.131]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6A0SMC11702; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 03:28:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6A0NJr39432; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 03:23:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon) To: David Johnson Cc: Heiko Recktenwald , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Questions References: <3B4A00A6.E463FD36@acuson.com> From: Giorgos Keramidas Date: 10 Jul 2001 03:23:18 +0300 In-Reply-To: David Johnson's message of "Mon, 09 Jul 2001 12:06:14 -0700" Message-ID: <86pub9y6mh.fsf@hades.hell.gr> Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Johnson writes: > Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > > > The BSD license is less stress for Bill Gates or Cupertino. > > That is a Good Thing(tm). Our goal should be to improve FreeBSD, not to > sabotage other systems. I see no point or purpose in deliberately > stressing Bill and Steve. Could not agree more. I've been hearing again and again from people who use FreeBSD that the BSD camp is not a raging horde of Microsoft haters. I'd like to believe that it will stay that way. It's not hate of Microsoft that drives development in BSD, but an urge to make BSD's better every day. Unless I terribly misunderstood lots of things. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 17:48:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.ovis.net (ns1.ovis.net [207.0.147.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A00E37B403 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 17:48:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chromexa@ovis.net) Received: from ovis.net (s8.pm5.ovis.net [207.0.147.75]) by ns1.ovis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA31580; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:48:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3B4A4EA1.6F49246F@ovis.net> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 20:38:57 -0400 From: Steve Kudlak Reply-To: chromexa@ovis.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD ezn/58/n (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "kalle (Camelot)" Cc: ML Duke , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mail References: <039201c10872$ddfa8000$cb48fea9@xerxes> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "kalle (Camelot)" wrote: > > Anyone know of a good bulk mail tool? > Yes. But nobody should tell You.... > > > I've got a good script for mail, but my ISP is not playing > > by proper rules. > must be a good provider..... > --cut-- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message And I think the old rule where the whole message was quoted to avoid out of context quotes is better than the new rule of quote soundbytes. Have Fun, Sends Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 18: 5: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 322FB37B403 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 18:05:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdagee2@yahoo.com) Received: from slip-32-100-100-227.wa.us.prserv.net (HELO yahoo.com) (32.100.100.227) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2001 01:05:04 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <3B4A5428.4A37CEB3@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 18:02:32 -0700 From: Karl Agee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.19-4.1mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tri-City Linux user group <3clug@tricity.wsu.edu>, newbies Subject: FreeBSD gets big DoD contract Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Read about it here...another confirmation for open source.... http://netscape.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5093868,00.html _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 9 23:36:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.rdc2.ab.home.com (mail1.rdc2.ab.home.com [24.64.2.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8098137B403 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 23:36:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unjoo@home.com) Received: from k ([24.71.109.83]) by mail1.rdc2.ab.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010710063608.QVJN15702.mail1.rdc2.ab.home.com@k> for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 23:36:08 -0700 From: "KKH" To: Subject: Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 00:36:36 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-newbies unjoo@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 0: 6:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from miranda.mbl.uib.no (miranda.mbl.uib.no [129.177.70.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BD137B401 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 00:06:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karin@miranda.mbl.uib.no) Received: (from karin@localhost) by miranda.mbl.uib.no (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f6A757m07779 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:05:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from karin) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:05:07 +0200 From: Karin Lagesen To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Questions Message-ID: <20010710090507.E5145@miranda.mbl.uib.no> Mail-Followup-To: Karin Lagesen , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B4A00A6.E463FD36@acuson.com> <86pub9y6mh.fsf@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <86pub9y6mh.fsf@hades.hell.gr>; from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr on Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 03:23:18AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 03:23:18AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > Could not agree more. I've been hearing again and again from people who use > FreeBSD that the BSD camp is not a raging horde of Microsoft haters. I'd like > to believe that it will stay that way. > > It's not hate of Microsoft that drives development in BSD, but an urge to make > BSD's better every day. Unless I terribly misunderstood lots of things. I once heard this explanation of the difference between BSD and linux users; Linux is for the ones that hate Windows, BSD is for the ones that like unix. Maybe a bit too prejudice, but in my experience basically true...:) Mvh, Karin -- Karin Lagesen, karin@ii.uib.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 2:39:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from scooby.unagi.org.uk (scooby.unagi.org.uk [195.92.225.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4524D37B418 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 02:39:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevinb@unagi.org.uk) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by scooby.unagi.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 9.99 #3) id 15Jut4-0004nI-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:37:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:37:02 +0000 (GMT) From: kevinb To: Subject: Re: Questions In-Reply-To: <20010710090507.E5145@miranda.mbl.uib.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Im wanting to set up a web server in a hosting room on the net where i work but im indesicive as to what OS to use im down to using linux,solaris, or some variant of BSD. any advise would be appreciate any advise im interested in stability and most of all a secure platform for me to build on. KevB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 3:19:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (draco.over-yonder.net [198.78.58.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF7B37B406 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 03:19:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gh@over-yonder.net) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 1012) id A4EAB62D0A; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 05:19:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 05:19:54 -0500 From: GH To: kevinb Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Questions Message-ID: <20010710051954.B63415@over-yonder.net> References: <20010710090507.E5145@miranda.mbl.uib.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from kevinb@unagi.org.uk on Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:37:02AM +0000 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:37:02AM +0000, some SMTP stream spewed forth: > > Im wanting to set up a web server in a hosting room on the net where i > work but im indesicive as to what OS to use im down to using > linux,solaris, or some variant of BSD. > > any advise would be appreciate any advise im interested in stability and > most of all a secure platform for me to build on. FreeBSD sounds like what you want: stable, secure. It is also friendly, well-supported, efficient. gh > > KevB > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- > What, no one sings along with Ricky Martin anymore? My kid sister does (but then, she prefers pico to vi ...) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian, alt.sysadmin.recovery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 3:20:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.medisite.net (mail.medisite.net [194.98.201.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3148537B403 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 03:20:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jean-sebastien.pedron@medisite.net) Received: from medisite.net ([194.98.201.3]) by mail.medisite.net (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f6AAKC505872 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:20:12 +0200 Message-ID: <3B4AD6C5.9080807@medisite.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:19:49 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DS=E9bastien=20P=E9dron?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Newbies Subject: ADSL disconnection Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I use an Alcatel Speed Touch Ethernet modem for my ADSL connection. But after few hours (between 4 and 12 hours), it disconnects. In facts, it seems that the computer loses the link with the modem : the leds of the network card indicates that there is nothing. PPP is ran in ddial mode, but doesn't try to redial. I must stop PPP, turn off the modem, turn it back on and redial. To configure PPP, i used the ppp.conf from the FreeBSD handbook. Does anyone have a solution ? 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Eleanor http://www.layed.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 6:38:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail-srv1.micron.com (masquerade.micron.com [137.201.242.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CFE37B405 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 06:38:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgnovak@micron.com) Received: from mail-srv1.micron.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail-srv1.micron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22243 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:38:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ntexchange01.micron.com (ntexchange01 [137.201.104.84]) by mail-srv1.micron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22229; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:38:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ntexchange01.micron.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3M9RKZB9>; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:38:05 -0600 Message-ID: <3607D767B8E1D311A24F0008C7590A960916CD28@ntexchange07.micron.com> From: jgnovak To: "'kevinb'" Cc: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Questions Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:38:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Use FreeBSD It is the best OS for anything WWW -----Original Message----- From: kevinb [mailto:kevinb@unagi.org.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 4:37 AM To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Questions Im wanting to set up a web server in a hosting room on the net where i work but im indesicive as to what OS to use im down to using linux,solaris, or some variant of BSD. any advise would be appreciate any advise im interested in stability and most of all a secure platform for me to build on. KevB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 6:47:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f101.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C6137B401 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 06:47:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vladokorcek@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 06:47:44 -0700 Received: from 194.138.158.162 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:47:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.138.158.162] From: "Vlado Korcek" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Compile files??? Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:47:43 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2001 13:47:44.0060 (UTC) FILETIME=[E53067C0:01C10946] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I have a question. I've modified "/usr/src/lib/libc/net/getaddrinfo.c" for some testing purposes and I rebuild the kernel. After restart of the target I expected to see my changes when calling this function but nothing happens. Currently I'm working with FreeBSD-4.3 Could somebody help me with that. Thanks a lot ... Vladimir _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 9:24:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow029o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE67937B401 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx.my.domain ([62.31.194.122]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:24:08 +0100 From: John Murphy To: jgnovak Cc: simon196405@bigfoot.com, newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to resolve IRQ conflict between network and audio card Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:24:27 +0100 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: References: <3607D767B8E1D311A24F0008C7590A960916CD27@ntexchange07.micron.com> In-Reply-To: <3607D767B8E1D311A24F0008C7590A960916CD27@ntexchange07.micron.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's best to ask/answer technical questions in questions@FreeBSD.org I don't think compiling a custom kernel will help for plug and play cards. Try setting your computer BIOS to non plug and play OS. I haven't used windows2000 myself so I don't know if it will need the BIOS set to plug and play OS, though I guess It'll be OK. Ask in questions@FreeBSD.org to be sure. John. jgnovak wrote: >Hi Simon > >Without knowing what you have tried so far I would suggest this: >First edit and re-compile your kernel so you are not running on the = generic >on3 that installs >by default. >The dir is /usr/src/sys/i386/conf, in there you will find GENERIC and = LINT, >i recommend that you read LINT, then=20 >copy and rename the GENERIC kernel, then edit it to match your hardware. > >During the custom kernel edit you will get a chance to specify the IRQ = and >IOMEM address for these devices. > >Once again, without knowing much about your hardware, I recommend that = you >keep the audio card on IRQ 5 and moe the NIC to=20 >IRQ 10 or 3, or whatever you have that is available, just don't use IRQ = 2 >(use IQ 9 instead of 2). > >hope this helps out. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Simon Siemonsma [mailto:simon196405@bigfoot.com] >Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:36 PM >To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: how to resolve IRQ conflict between network and audio card > > >I have an IRQ conflict between my NE2000 compatible network card (ISA) = and >my audio card (PCI). >Both are plug and play and want to use IRQ 5. >The strange thing is that in W'2000 the NE2000 compatible card uses IRQ = 10, >and the audio card uses IRQ 11 (together with my ISDN modem, the PCI to = USB >controller, and my AGP graphics card. So they don't conflict there. > >At the moment it is not really a big problem, but I'll need the network = card >in the future to get ADSL up and running. > >Does anyone has any idea on how to solve this. It is important that at = the >end both cards work with freeBSD as well as with W'2000. > >Best regards > >Simon Siemonsma To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 9:41:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DBA37B405 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:41:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a220.otenet.gr [212.205.215.220]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6AGfYF23470; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:41:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6AFjIf43822; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:45:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon) To: "Vlado Korcek" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compile files??? References: From: Giorgos Keramidas Date: 10 Jul 2001 18:45:17 +0300 In-Reply-To: "Vlado Korcek"'s message of "Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:47:43 -0000" Message-ID: <86lmlw4wky.fsf@hades.hell.gr> Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Vlado Korcek" writes: > Hi > > I have a question. > I've modified "/usr/src/lib/libc/net/getaddrinfo.c" for some testing > purposes and I rebuild the kernel. After restart of the target I expected to > see my changes when calling this function but nothing happens. Currently I'm > working with FreeBSD-4.3 > > Could somebody help me with that. Well, you didn't change the kernel :) What you changed is the source of the C library [path: /usr/src/lib/libc]. You'll need to buildworld and installworld for the changes to take effect. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 10:26:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ECE1337B403 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:26:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdagee2@yahoo.com) Received: from slip-32-100-100-77.wa.us.prserv.net (HELO yahoo.com) (32.100.100.77) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2001 17:26:36 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <3B4B3AE0.46F29DBB@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:26:56 -0700 From: Karl Agee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.19-4.1mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: newbies , Tri-City Linux user group <3clug@tricity.wsu.edu> Subject: ammo to take to the boss... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So your boss doesnt think linux or freebsd can "cut it" and he believes the microsoft fud that "nobody uses linux" or other open-source os's??? Take a look at this article which is a compliation of all the studies done in the last few years including the fud from redmond: http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html --karl _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 10:29:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC5637B421 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:29:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA4EFC; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:36:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3B4B3B7D.490828B2@acuson.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:29:33 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vlado Korcek Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Compile files??? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vlado Korcek wrote: > > Hi > > I have a question. > I've modified "/usr/src/lib/libc/net/getaddrinfo.c" for some testing > purposes and I rebuild the kernel. After restart of the target I expected to > see my changes when calling this function but nothing happens. Currently I'm > working with FreeBSD-4.3 This is most certainly not the right mailing list for this kind of a question. Really, it's not. Now if there were a freebsd-newbie-hackers list, it might be appropriate... Try posting to one of the more appropriate lists. David p.s. the kernel is not libc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 10:39: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012B537B401 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:39:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA5532; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:45:26 -0700 Message-ID: <3B4B3DB0.63B2A0FC@acuson.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:38:56 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Agee Cc: newbies Subject: Re: ammo to take to the boss... References: <3B4B3AE0.46F29DBB@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Karl Agee wrote: > > So your boss doesnt think linux or freebsd can "cut it" and he believes > the microsoft fud that "nobody uses linux" or other open-source os's??? > Take a look at this article which is a compliation of all the studies > done in the last few years including the fud from redmond: > > http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html I can't say I would recommend the article, although it's a good source for references. It's extremely biased towards LinuxOS. It also follows the rule that if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t. One prominent example: "GNU/Linux with TUX produced better SPEC values than Windows/IIS". TUX is not a real-world web server, as it only serves static web pages. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 11:58:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtpsrv3.techint.net (smtpsrv3.techint.net [200.0.218.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E13D37B401 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:58:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from YAPEDU@SIDERAR.COM) Received: from baimsg1.baires.ot ([172.21.15.48]) by smtpsrv3.techint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04473 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:55:55 -0400 Received: by BAIMSG1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3M0R65LM>; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:56:33 -0300 Message-ID: From: GARGIULO Eduardo INGDESI To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Questions #2 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:59:19 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" x-mailer1: esmtp x-mailer2: esmtppub Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all. Finally, I'd installed FreeBSD 4.2 on my home PC. I still have some problems with ppp/natd configuration but think I'll survive. How can I log the nated packages? I need to mount a FAT partition (slave disk of 1st IDE drive) to read some files. Is msdos de right option type for this kind of filesystem? Is there a option type fat or vfat? Where can I configure the bootloader from? thanks and sorry for my english. ~edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 12:45: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ocn.ne.jp (tsukasa1.tsukasa-unet.ocn.ne.jp [210.162.254.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7460937B405 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:44:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlm_info@yahoo.com) From: SUPER-OFFER To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Íŕ đűíęĺ ýňî ńňîčň â 3 - 5 đŕç äîđîćĺ, ÷ĺě ďđĺäëŕăŕĺě Ěű !!! 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Ńâ˙çü ďî e-mail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 13: 4:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0221937B401 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:04:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA3470; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:11:11 -0700 Message-ID: <3B4B5FD9.2C51208D@acuson.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:04:41 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karin Lagesen Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Questions References: <3B4A00A6.E463FD36@acuson.com> <86pub9y6mh.fsf@hades.hell.gr> <20010710090507.E5145@miranda.mbl.uib.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Karin Lagesen wrote: > I once heard this explanation of the difference between BSD and linux users; > Linux is for the ones that hate Windows, BSD is for the ones that like unix. > Maybe a bit too prejudice, but in my experience basically true...:) It isn't true. The vast majority of Linux users use it because it's Linux, not because it isn't Windows. Unfortunately, the small minority the uses Linux only because they hate Windows tend to have the loudest and shrillest voices. If all you know of the Linux community is what you read on Slashdot, you could very well get that impression. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 13:42: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EB037B403 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:41:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b115.otenet.gr [195.167.121.243]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6AKfsF21031; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:41:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6AKfqE46406; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:41:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon) To: Karl Agee Cc: newbies , Tri-City Linux user group <3clug@tricity.wsu.edu> Subject: Re: ammo to take to the boss... References: <3B4B3AE0.46F29DBB@yahoo.com> From: Giorgos Keramidas Date: 10 Jul 2001 23:41:50 +0300 In-Reply-To: Karl Agee's message of "Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:26:56 -0700" Message-ID: <86k81g4iup.fsf@hades.hell.gr> Lines: 28 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Karl Agee writes: > So your boss doesnt think linux or freebsd can "cut it" and he believes > the microsoft fud that "nobody uses linux" or other open-source os's??? > Take a look at this article which is a compliation of all the studies > done in the last few years including the fud from redmond: > > http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html Well, it does have a few striking errors, but mostly it's good stuff. Quoting the article: 2. GNU/Linux is the #2 web serving operating system on the public Internet (counting by IP address). Much depends on what you want to measure. Several of the BSDs (FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD) are OSS/FS as well; so at least a portion of the 6.3% for BSD should be added to Linux's 28.5% to determine the percentage of OSS/FS operating systems being used as web servers. What does he mean 'at least a portion'? Is BSD open source or not? It can't be 'partially open source'. Apart from a few places where like the quote above, I don't entirely agree, this seems to be a rather linux-biased but nevertheless nice article. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 13:47:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7ED37B403 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:47:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b115.otenet.gr [195.167.121.243]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6AKl9F26432; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:47:10 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6AKl8w46447; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:47:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon) To: GARGIULO Eduardo INGDESI Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Questions #2 References: From: Giorgos Keramidas Date: 10 Jul 2001 23:47:04 +0300 In-Reply-To: GARGIULO Eduardo INGDESI's message of "Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:59:19 -0300" Message-ID: <86hewk4ily.fsf@hades.hell.gr> Lines: 30 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org GARGIULO Eduardo INGDESI writes: > I need to mount a FAT partition (slave disk of 1st IDE drive) to read > some files. Is msdos de right option type for this kind of filesystem? > Is there a option type fat or vfat? Did you try ? I mean, ok, nobody has a problem telling you the command line (which is also shown below), but did you do basic research on how this could be done? Read the manpages? Anyways, what you want is filesystem-type 'msdos', and to mount the `slice' and not a `partition' in the slice. # mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s1 /mnt [ this will correctly try to mount slice 1 of atapi disk 0, to /mnt ] Do not try mounting a partition in the slice, as shown below. You'll get an error, since the FAT partition does not have a valid disklabel. # mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s1c /mnt msdosfs: /dev/ad0s1c: Invalid argument -giorgos PS: Please do not post questions on this list. Use -questions the next time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 13:51:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.home.nl (mail2.home.nl [213.51.129.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945D237B403 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nascar24@home.nl) Received: from cc13708a ([213.51.193.168]) by mail2.home.nl (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010710215110.JLRK6179.mail2.home.nl@cc13708a> for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:51:10 +0100 Message-ID: <009601c10982$14448d80$a8c133d5@cc13708a> From: "Marcel Dijk" Cc: References: <86hewk4ily.fsf@hades.hell.gr> Subject: boot... Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:51:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, This afternoon I added a disk to my FreeBSD machine. And then I made a mistake. I was creating partitions on the new disk with /stand/systinstall (fdisk) and after that I accidently chose BOOR MANAGER instead odf MBR, what I wanted. Now my machine doesn't boot anymore. I get to see: >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Invalid partition Default 0:ad(0,a)/ad0 Boot: I am/was running FreeBSD 4.2. What am I supposed to do now, to make it boot again. I DID NOT change anything on the exsisting disk. I only created partitions on the new disk and accidently chose BOOT MANAGER instead of MBR. Thanks, eveything I need is on that machine so it has to work... Marcel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 13:52:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2D737B406 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:52:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA50E5; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:58:55 -0700 Message-ID: <3B4B6B09.F7382A2F@acuson.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:52:25 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: newbies Subject: Re: ammo to take to the boss... References: <3B4B3AE0.46F29DBB@yahoo.com> <86k81g4iup.fsf@hades.hell.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Much depends on what you want to measure. Several of the BSDs (FreeBSD, > NetBSD, and OpenBSD) are OSS/FS as well; so at least a portion of the 6.3% > for BSD should be added to Linux's 28.5% to determine the percentage of > OSS/FS operating systems being used as web servers. > > What does he mean 'at least a portion'? Is BSD open source or not? It can't > be 'partially open source'. BSD/OS is closed source. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 14:44: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAD437B405 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:44:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julianp@earthling.net) Received: from wallace ([210.55.118.185]) by mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20010710214306.QLFX3996519.mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz@wallace>; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:43:06 +1200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Julian Peterson To: David Johnson , Karl Agee Subject: Re: ammo to take to the boss... Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:35:09 +1200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: newbies References: <3B4B3AE0.46F29DBB@yahoo.com> <3B4B3DB0.63B2A0FC@acuson.com> In-Reply-To: <3B4B3DB0.63B2A0FC@acuson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01071109350902.08546@wallace> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 11 July 2001 05:38, David Johnson wrote: > Karl Agee wrote: > > So your boss doesnt think linux or freebsd can "cut it" and he believes > > the microsoft fud that "nobody uses linux" or other open-source os's??? > > Take a look at this article which is a compliation of all the studies > > done in the last few years including the fud from redmond: > > > > http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html > > I can't say I would recommend the article, although it's a good source > for references. > > It's extremely biased towards LinuxOS. It also follows the rule that if > you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t. One > prominent example: "GNU/Linux with TUX produced better SPEC values than > Windows/IIS". TUX is not a real-world web server, as it only serves > static web pages. > > David > Sure it's a real world web server. Yes it does only serve static pages... it passes off dynamic content off to Apache.  But usually there is large amount of static content on a web site (images count in there too).   And remember that the webspec results are calculated on a mix of dynamic and static content. (see here http://www.specbench.org/osg/web99/ for exactly what). Info on Tux can be found at http://www.redhat.com/support/manuals/TUX-2.0-Manual/intro.html Cheers, Julian. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 14:44:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from post.webmailer.de (natpost.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E0537B401 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:44:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from buebo@buebo.de) Received: from mother (pD905528F.dip.t-dialin.net [217.5.82.143]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA07011; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:44:25 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <013601c10988$f19af0b0$c3fbfea9@mother> From: "Felix Kakrow" To: "Marcel Dijk" Cc: References: <86hewk4ily.fsf@hades.hell.gr> <009601c10982$14448d80$a8c133d5@cc13708a> Subject: Re: boot... Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:40:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you have a Microsoft Boot Disk (for example the Windows 9x CD) boot it, and start your Computer in a Dos Modus and type "fdisk /mbr) that should delete any Bootmanager from that Disk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcel Dijk" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:51 PM Subject: boot... > Hello, > > This afternoon I added a disk to my FreeBSD machine. And then I made a > mistake. I was creating partitions on the new disk with /stand/systinstall > (fdisk) and after that I accidently chose BOOR MANAGER instead odf MBR, what > I wanted. Now my machine doesn't boot anymore. I get to see: > > >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT > Invalid partition > Default 0:ad(0,a)/ad0 > Boot: > > I am/was running FreeBSD 4.2. What am I supposed to do now, to make it boot > again. I DID NOT change anything on the exsisting disk. I only created > partitions on the new disk and accidently chose BOOT MANAGER instead of MBR. > > Thanks, eveything I need is on that machine so it has to work... > > Marcel > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 15:31:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC26C37B405 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:31:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA1310; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:38:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3B4B8243.E533D0D2@acuson.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:31:31 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Peterson Cc: newbies Subject: Re: ammo to take to the boss... References: <3B4B3AE0.46F29DBB@yahoo.com> <3B4B3DB0.63B2A0FC@acuson.com> <01071109301300.08546@wallace> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Julian Peterson wrote: > Sure it's a real world web server. Yes it does only serve static pages... > it passes off dynamic content off to Apache. But usually there is large > amount of static content on a web site (images count in there too). > Remember that the webspec results are calculated on a mix of dynamic and > static content. (see here http://www.specbench.org/osg/web99/ for exactly > what). From the TUX manual: "Summary of System Requirements ... Alternate web server such as Apache running on the same server to process unknown requests". It's like saying AbiWord is a full office suite, just add Gnumeric, etc! What TUX does, it does well. But until it doesn't need Apache in order to do "real world" work, I can't consider it a "real world" webserver. I especially find disingenuous that the SPECweb results show "HTTP Software - TUX 2.0" with no indication that Apache was used. Let's see TUX beat Apache without the help of Apache! David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 10 16:19:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9542337B401; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:19:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rootman@xmission.com) Received: from [166.70.7.191] (helo=blackmirror.xmission.com) by mail.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15K6mW-0005rn-00; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:19:04 -0600 From: rootman To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Fwd: UNIX TIP: DATE CHANGE SEPT 9TH Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:14:07 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01071017182700.00321@blackmirror.xmission.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know if this could be a potential problem with FreeBSD? ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: UNIX TIP: DATE CHANGE SEPT 9TH Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:10:42 -0700 From: Unix Guru Universe =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= UNIX GURU UNIVERSE & UNIX911.com UNIX HOT TIP Unix Tip 1652 - July 10, 2001 http://www.ugu.com/sui/ugu/show?tip.today =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= DATE CHANGE SEPT 9TH We are checking with SUN and other vendors to confirm the following tip that was sent in. 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Unix Guru Universe - www.ugu.com - tips@ugu.com - Copyright 1994-1998 ========================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 11 0:17: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from miranda.mbl.uib.no (miranda.mbl.uib.no [129.177.70.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB2237B401 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 00:17:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karin@miranda.mbl.uib.no) Received: (from karin@localhost) by miranda.mbl.uib.no (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f6B7DD914481 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:13:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from karin) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:13:13 +0200 From: Karin Lagesen To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Questions Message-ID: <20010711091313.A14288@miranda.mbl.uib.no> Mail-Followup-To: Karin Lagesen , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B4A00A6.E463FD36@acuson.com> <86pub9y6mh.fsf@hades.hell.gr> <20010710090507.E5145@miranda.mbl.uib.no> <3B4B5FD9.2C51208D@acuson.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B4B5FD9.2C51208D@acuson.com>; from djohnson@acuson.com on Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 01:04:41PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 01:04:41PM -0700, David Johnson wrote: > Karin Lagesen wrote: > > > I once heard this explanation of the difference between BSD and linux users; > > Linux is for the ones that hate Windows, BSD is for the ones that like unix. > > Maybe a bit too prejudice, but in my experience basically true...:) > > It isn't true. The vast majority of Linux users use it because it's > Linux, not because it isn't Windows. Unfortunately, the small minority > the uses Linux only because they hate Windows tend to have the loudest > and shrillest voices. If all you know of the Linux community is what you > read on Slashdot, you could very well get that impression. I used Linux for 2 years before switching to FBSD. I never read slashdot. The quote was meant to be taken humorously. It is just that so many people I know who are Linux users use every chance they get (and then some) to bash the Redmond people. That's all..:) Mvh, Karin -- Karin Lagesen, karin@ii.uib.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 11 1:11: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9C337B403 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:11:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f6B8B0l58352; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:11:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Karl Agee" , "newbies" , "Tri-City Linux user group" <3clug@tricity.wsu.edu> Subject: RE: ammo to take to the boss... Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:11:00 -0700 Message-ID: <001801c109e1$058b6e80$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <3B4B3AE0.46F29DBB@yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First, please CC the Advocacy list with this stuff! Second, I think the article is an excellent paper for "presenting to the boss" it is every bit as good as the papers that Sun puts out that say Solaris is the most popular, and the papers that Microsoft puts out that say that Microsoft is the most popular, etc. However the paper does have a fatal flaw that all of these kinds of whitpapers have. It cites study after study but it does not (for the most part) cite who comissioned the study, and who bankrolls the group doing the study. With commercial market surveys of these type, most of the so-called "market research" firms that do them have 1 of 2 goals. First, they are doing the study under comission by a client. Naturally, the study is going to arrive at the conclusions that the client wants. The whole point of paying the market research firm is to be able to cite them as proof that the study your waving around to your prospective customers is legitimate. The second goal is that the market research firm does a study with the hope of peddling it to someone in the industry. For example they might do a study that comes to the conclusion that "BSD is the fastest growing OS used in embedded systems" then post a synopsis of it. Their goal in that case would be to peddle the details of the study to someone like Wind River. All of the market research firm studies cited in the article are basically propaganda devices that are useless. The reason is that if you contact each of those firms they will not release the names of who they actually surveyed. Thus there is no way for a 3rd party to audit the study, by checking with some of the users that the research firm communicated with to find out if the surveyed users really and truly said what the study claims they said. In summary, the research firms all claim to be statistically scientific but they don't publish any way of being able to repeat the study and arrive at the same conclusions that they did. Without the ability to have repeatibility the information isn't factual or verifyable. Also without knowing where the money came from that funded the study, it's impossible to determine if there was any bias that affected the results of the study. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Karl Agee >Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:27 AM >To: newbies; Tri-City Linux user group >Subject: ammo to take to the boss... > > >So your boss doesnt think linux or freebsd can "cut it" and he believes >the microsoft fud that "nobody uses linux" or other open-source os's??? >Take a look at this article which is a compliation of all the studies >done in the last few years including the fud from redmond: > >http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html > >--karl > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 11 6:40:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web14707.mail.yahoo.com (web14707.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D637437B401 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 06:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vassd2000@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010711134041.4798.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.120.197.120] by web14707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 06:40:41 PDT Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 06:40:41 -0700 (PDT) From: vass D Subject: newbie programmers list ??? To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello, i wonder if any of you know if there is any mailing list and / or webboard for people who are new to programming in c for unix. i dont mean kernel stuff as it's too advanced. just 'c' but from a unix perspective (system calls, sockets, pipes etc). also any newbie scripting list? that's not necesarily for freebsd...any unix. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 11 7:23:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.home.nl (mail2.home.nl [213.51.129.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA88A37B401 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 07:23:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nascar24@home.nl) Received: from cc13708a ([213.51.193.168]) by mail2.home.nl (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010711152255.NEEM6179.mail2.home.nl@cc13708a>; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 16:22:55 +0100 Message-ID: <014401c10a15$026af700$a8c133d5@cc13708a> From: "Marcel Dijk" To: "Felix Kakrow" Cc: References: <86hewk4ily.fsf@hades.hell.gr> <009601c10982$14448d80$a8c133d5@cc13708a> <013601c10988$f19af0b0$c3fbfea9@mother> Subject: Re: boot... Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 16:23:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Disposition-Notification-To: "Marcel Dijk" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have tried that. But when I try to boot, I now get this message: Invalid Partition Invalid Partition no /boot/loader >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: Invalid Partition no /kernel What now? Marcel > If you have a Microsoft Boot Disk (for example the Windows 9x CD) boot it, > and start your Computer in a Dos Modus and type "fdisk /mbr) that should > delete any Bootmanager from that Disk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marcel Dijk" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:51 PM > Subject: boot... > > > > Hello, > > > > This afternoon I added a disk to my FreeBSD machine. And then I made a > > mistake. I was creating partitions on the new disk with /stand/systinstall > > (fdisk) and after that I accidently chose BOOR MANAGER instead odf MBR, > what > > I wanted. Now my machine doesn't boot anymore. I get to see: > > > > >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT > > Invalid partition > > Default 0:ad(0,a)/ad0 > > Boot: > > > > I am/was running FreeBSD 4.2. What am I supposed to do now, to make it > boot > > again. I DID NOT change anything on the exsisting disk. I only created > > partitions on the new disk and accidently chose BOOT MANAGER instead of > MBR. > > > > Thanks, eveything I need is on that machine so it has to work... > > > > Marcel > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 11 7:36:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0511237B403 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 07:36:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b099.otenet.gr [195.167.121.227]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6BEadG29794; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:36:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6BEach51137; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:36:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon) To: David Johnson Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , newbies Subject: Re: ammo to take to the boss... References: <3B4B3AE0.46F29DBB@yahoo.com> <86k81g4iup.fsf@hades.hell.gr> <3B4B6B09.F7382A2F@acuson.com> From: Giorgos Keramidas Date: 11 Jul 2001 17:36:36 +0300 In-Reply-To: David Johnson's message of "Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:52:25 -0700" Message-ID: <86u20j4jnv.fsf@hades.hell.gr> Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Johnson writes: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > Much depends on what you want to measure. Several of the BSDs (FreeBSD, > > NetBSD, and OpenBSD) are OSS/FS as well; so at least a portion of the 6.3% > > for BSD should be added to Linux's 28.5% to determine the percentage of > > OSS/FS operating systems being used as web servers. > > > > What does he mean 'at least a portion'? Is BSD open source or not? It can't > > be 'partially open source'. > > BSD/OS is closed source. Well, I hate being anal retentive, but he didn't mention BSD/OS anywhere. He only mentioned open source BSD's. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 11 10: 3:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.hccnet.nl (smtp.hccnet.nl [62.251.0.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E69037B401 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:03:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon196405@bigfoot.com) Received: from none52aqg24pmy by smtp.hccnet.nl via uds5-33.dial.hccnet.nl [62.251.33.5] with SMTP id TAA02966 (8.8.5/1.13); Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:03:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Simon Siemonsma" To: , Subject: RE: how to resolve IRQ conflict between network and audio card Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:02:41 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > It's best to ask/answer technical questions in questions@FreeBSD.org That is what I did originally, but I didn't get any answer. That when I decided to give it a try at newbies. > > I don't think compiling a custom kernel will help for plug and play > cards. Try setting your computer BIOS to non plug and play OS. > > I haven't used windows2000 myself so I don't know if it will need > the BIOS set to plug and play OS, though I guess It'll be OK. It worked! Thanks a lot, I would never have figured out this myself. Checking the manual of my Mainboard I found out the meaning of the setting: PnP OS Installed. When PnP OS Installed is set to no: it just means that the BIOS will sort out hardware conflicts between the different PnP hardware, while when PnP OS Installed is set to yes: the OS is supposed to solve these conflicts itself. W'2000 obvisiously doesn't care when the BIOS already solved these conflicts. So FreeBSD and W'2000 both work fine now. Thanks a lot. Simon Siemonsma To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 11 10:29:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA56737B406 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:29:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA51C2; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:35:41 -0700 Message-ID: <3B4C8CE8.523FFBC1@acuson.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:29:12 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: newbies Subject: Re: ammo to take to the boss... References: <3B4B3AE0.46F29DBB@yahoo.com> <86k81g4iup.fsf@hades.hell.gr> <3B4B6B09.F7382A2F@acuson.com> <86u20j4jnv.fsf@hades.hell.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > David Johnson writes: > > > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > > Much depends on what you want to measure. Several of the BSDs (FreeBSD, > > > NetBSD, and OpenBSD) are OSS/FS as well; so at least a portion of the 6.3% > > > for BSD should be added to Linux's 28.5% to determine the percentage of > > > OSS/FS operating systems being used as web servers. > > > > > > What does he mean 'at least a portion'? Is BSD open source or not? It can't > > > be 'partially open source'. > > > > BSD/OS is closed source. > > Well, I hate being anal retentive, but he didn't mention BSD/OS anywhere. > He only mentioned open source BSD's. Look up above. He said that several of the BSD's were open source, then mentioned those that were. He did not mention which ones were not open source, someone asked, so I replied. The stats he gave did not distinguish between open and closed source platforms, so the numbers for BSD may very well have included BSD/OS. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 11 10:31:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA9937B405 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:31:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA5302; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:37:38 -0700 Message-ID: <3B4C8D5C.C95F1277@acuson.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:31:08 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Dijk Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: boot... References: <86hewk4ily.fsf@hades.hell.gr> <009601c10982$14448d80$a8c133d5@cc13708a> <013601c10988$f19af0b0$c3fbfea9@mother> <014401c10a15$026af700$a8c133d5@cc13708a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marcel Dijk wrote: > > I have tried that. But when I try to boot, I now get this message: > > Invalid Partition > Invalid Partition > no /boot/loader > > >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT > Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel > boot: > Invalid Partition > no /kernel Ask on -questions. You're definitely starting off with the correct boot manager. It just can't find the the next stage loader. Those that know much more than us mere newbies might be able to help. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 11 16:34: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-132.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB3637B405; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 16:33:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8464C66D72; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 16:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 16:33:55 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: rootman Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fwd: UNIX TIP: DATE CHANGE SEPT 9TH Message-ID: <20010711163354.B90831@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <01071017182700.00321@blackmirror.xmission.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="V0207lvV8h4k8FAm" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01071017182700.00321@blackmirror.xmission.com>; from rootman@xmission.com on Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:14:07PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:14:07PM -0600, rootman wrote: >=20 > Does anyone know if this could be a potential problem with FreeBSD? I doubt if there are many apps which store time_t's as an ASCII representation and might therefore overflow. There are even less likely to be any instances in the FreeBSD code itself. The major potential problem might be in weakly-typed languages which treat ascii strings and numerical values equivalently, encouraging programmers to mix up types and possibly make assumptions about array sizing. I don't know off-hand of any languages where this is likely to be true Kris --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7TOJhWry0BWjoQKURAmKRAJ9kNxAHjzih32S6FgpQXodFUDXmxACg+uNY o91dkZH3XqEXC74uQmhe0jo= =iAmN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 11 17: 7:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E245D37B401 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlduke@concentric.net) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id f6C07AI20263 ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ts006d48.mer-id.concentric.net (ts006d48.mer-id.concentric.net [208.177.68.60]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id UAA24750; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:05:08 -0600 (MDT) From: ML Duke To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mail In-Reply-To: <20010709153119.A22506@hades.hell.gr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: Ah, people who make assumptions ...... The mailer is needed for a newsletter going to people who have subscribed -- and I know every one of them. So do with your assumptions what you will. Duke > > Anyone know of a good bulk mail tool? > > I've got a good script for mail, but my ISP is not playing > > by proper rules. > > No, your ISP is fine. It is *YOU* who is not playing by the rules. > Do NOT bulk mail. For any reason! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 11 17:16:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C05437B403 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:16:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 5C67355407; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB2251610; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:00:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: ML Duke Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Subject: Re: mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-07-11, ML Duke scribbled: # The mailer is needed for a newsletter going to # people who have subscribed -- and I know every one # of them. There is a mailing list tool called Majordomo (which is being used for all of the FreeBSD mailing lists). Some other products include ListSERV and ezmlm (which works with qmail). ListSERV is a commercial product whereas Majordomo and ezmlm are free in one sense or another. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 11 17:22:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 646FD37B403 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:22:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ijand2@yahoo.com) Received: from 216-53-133-75.ppp.mpinet.net (HELO dhcppc1) (216.53.133.75) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 2001 00:22:14 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:22:06 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v388) From: Jorge Ramirez To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.388) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: kde installation Message-Id: <20010712002215.646FD37B403@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just finished installing kde from the ports collection. What command do i need to put in my .xininitrc file to use kde? Thanks for any help in advance. Jorge Ramirez _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 11 17:31:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7623D37B403 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:31:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 4C86555407; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAD051610; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:15:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Jorge Ramirez Cc: Subject: Re: kde installation In-Reply-To: <20010712002215.646FD37B403@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-07-11, Jorge Ramirez scribbled: # I just finished installing kde from the ports collection. What command # do i need to put in my .xininitrc file to use kde? Thanks for any help # in advance. 'startkde' is all that you would need (no quotes of course ;-) -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 11 22:53:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.hccnet.nl (smtp.hccnet.nl [62.251.0.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A9437B401 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:53:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon196405@bigfoot.com) Received: from none52aqg24pmy by smtp.hccnet.nl via uds21-33.dial.hccnet.nl [62.251.33.21] with SMTP for id HAA24839 (8.8.5/1.13); Thu, 12 Jul 2001 07:53:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Simon Siemonsma" To: Subject: RE: how to resolve IRQ conflict between network and audio card Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 07:52:38 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > It's best to ask/answer technical questions in questions@FreeBSD.org That is what I did originally, but I didn't get any answer. That when I decided to give it a try at newbies. > > I don't think compiling a custom kernel will help for plug and play > cards. Try setting your computer BIOS to non plug and play OS. > > I haven't used windows2000 myself so I don't know if it will need > the BIOS set to plug and play OS, though I guess It'll be OK. It worked! Thanks a lot, I would never have figured out this myself. Checking the manual of my Mainboard I found out the meaning of the setting: PnP OS Installed. When PnP OS Installed is set to no: it just means that the BIOS will sort out hardware conflicts between the different PnP hardware, while when PnP OS Installed is set to yes: the OS is supposed to solve these conflicts itself. W'2000 obvisiously doesn't care when the BIOS already solved these conflicts. So FreeBSD and W'2000 both work fine now. Thanks a lot. Simon Siemonsma To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 12 10:52:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.hccnet.nl (smtp.hccnet.nl [62.251.0.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8084037B401 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:52:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon196405@bigfoot.com) Received: from none52aqg24pmy by smtp.hccnet.nl via uds189-59.dial.hccnet.nl [62.251.59.189] with SMTP id TAA28804 (8.8.5/1.13); Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:52:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Simon Siemonsma" To: "Jorge Ramirez" , Subject: RE: kde installation Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:51:47 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010712002215.646FD37B403@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try EXEC startkde When I installed KDE it worked automatically, when I typed startx. At least for root, then I copied the above command to the initialisation file for the normal users. Simon Siemonsma > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jorge Ramirez > Sent: donderdag 12 juli 2001 2:22 > To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > Subject: kde installation > > > I just finished installing kde from the ports collection. > What command > do i need to put in my .xininitrc file to use kde? Thanks > for any help > in advance. > > > Jorge Ramirez > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 13 19:10:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908B937B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6E2A1r10257 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:10:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200107140210.f6E2A1r10257@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jul 14 23: 1:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from drake.host4u.net (drake.host4u.net [216.71.64.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3682437B401; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 23:01:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsddiary@drake.host4u.net) Received: (from freebsddiary@localhost) by drake.host4u.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA25588; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 01:07:00 -0500 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 01:07:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200107150607.BAA25588@drake.host4u.net> From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2001-06-24 - 2001-07-14 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-newbies and freebsd-questions with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 12-Jul : Client Authentication with SSL do you know who is using your website? http://freebsddiary.org/openssl-client-authentication.php?2 30-Jun : The Diary gets ready for colocation Moving from a webfarm to a dedicated webserver http://freebsddiary.org/colocation.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message