From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jul 15 7: 4: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from scooby.unagi.org.uk (scooby.unagi.org.uk [195.92.225.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5403E37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 07:03:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevinb@unagi.org.uk) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by scooby.unagi.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 9.99 #3) id 15LnPP-0007z9-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:02:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:02:11 +0000 (GMT) From: kevinb To: Subject: open/free/net im confused In-Reply-To: <200107150607.BAA25588@drake.host4u.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I posted a question recently regarding what to use for my web server, cheers for the replies i got some good advice, so im going to go with BSD now im stumped as to the differences between open/free/net could someone please explain the diffs ive looked at there web sites and done some reading but it would be nive to see an explanation from ppl that have used the above. Cheers KevB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jul 15 7:39: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA0937B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 07:38:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mimerki@saintmail.net) Received: from saintmail.net (paras-04.dynamic.rpi.edu [128.113.137.93]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6FEctV131078; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:38:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3B51AB2E.933E6E07@saintmail.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:39:42 -0400 From: Marcia Barrett Nice X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kevinb Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: open/free/net im confused References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org kevinb wrote: > I posted a question recently regarding what to use for my web server, > cheers for the replies i got some good advice, so im going to go with BSD > now im stumped as to the differences between open/free/net could someone > please explain the diffs ive looked at there web sites and done some > reading but it would be nive to see an explanation from ppl that have used > the above. > > Cheers > > KevB > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message Check out http://www.greasydaemon.com/directory/intro/ In brief, FreeBSD is designed to be the most general purpose, OpenBSD is designed to be "secure by default" and NetBSD is designed to run on anything. I would (of course) recommend FreeBSD as solid, stable and fairly easy to use. However, my opinion is biased and based on having used FreeBSD pretty much exclusively on my box at home for several months now. Not having run Net or Open, I may truly be missing out on the best computing experience of my life.... But I like FreeBSD. Good luck Marci To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jul 15 11:19:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from scooby.unagi.org.uk (scooby.unagi.org.uk [195.92.225.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBE437B407 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 11:19:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevinb@unagi.org.uk) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by scooby.unagi.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 9.99 #3) id 15LrON-000827-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 19:17:23 +0000 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 19:17:23 +0000 (GMT) From: kevinb To: Subject: BSD web sites In-Reply-To: <3B51AB2E.933E6E07@saintmail.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone know any really good geeky sites for myself (new to BSD). Cheers KevB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jul 15 11:33:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51D837B405 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 11:33:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mimerki@saintmail.net) Received: from saintmail.net (muk-26.dynamic.rpi.edu [128.113.137.35]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6FIXJV96670; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 14:33:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3B51E224.5F8C458A@saintmail.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 14:34:12 -0400 From: Marcia Barrett Nice X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kevinb Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD web sites References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org kevinb wrote: > Anyone know any really good geeky sites for myself (new to BSD). > > Cheers > > KevB > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message Define geeky in this context. I'm a big fan of greasydaemon.com, mostly because it links to most of the major BSD sites. I'm also a big fan of daemonnews.com, which is among the major BSD sites Greasy Daemon links / sorts. FreeBSDDiary.org is a good place for newbies (or at least I think so, it's been awfully helpful to me). I think the other BSDs have similar sites, though I haven't done much exploring in that arena. Depending on your areas of interest, you may also want to look at some of the Linux sites for things that apply to the BSDs. Similarly, if you're using X, you might want to watch xfree86.org, and/or your window manager (kde.org, gnome.org). I periodically browse securityinfo.org and theregister.co.uk. And I have just identified that I am apparently more of a geek than I necessarily want to admit to, so I think I'll stop now. (BTW, I love your domain name...) Hope that helps, Marci To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jul 15 11:45:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ruby.he.net (ruby.he.net [216.218.187.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D0B37B403 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 11:45:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from corten8.billschoolcraft.com (adsl-63-193-247-201.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.247.201]) by ruby.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) with ESMTP id LAA25607; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 11:44:44 -0700 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 11:43:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-Sender: bill@corten8.billschoolcraft.com To: Marcia Barrett Nice Cc: kevinb , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD web sites In-Reply-To: <3B51E224.5F8C458A@saintmail.net> Message-ID: System-ID: [en] (I; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i86pc) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Sun, 15 Jul 2001 it looks like Marcia Barrett Nice composed: MBN-->kevinb wrote: MBN--> MBN-->> Anyone know any really good geeky sites for myself (new to BSD). MBN-->> I made a neutral Unix site to get someone started at http://forwardslashunix.com just for that purpose. -- Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 -o) San Francisco CA 94121 /\ "UNIX, A Way Of Life." _\_v http://forwardslashunix.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 16 3:39:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [217.21.68.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7814B37B403 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 03:39:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kadi@ispro.net.tr) Received: from writer01 (joke.ispro.net.tr [212.174.120.249]) (authenticated) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.11.4/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6GAeCc55549 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:40:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kadi@ispro.net.tr) Message-ID: <028001c10de3$f3d14500$1c02a8c0@ispro.net.tr> From: "zafer kadi" To: Subject: Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:41:57 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_026C_01C10DFD.1584DB80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_026C_01C10DFD.1584DB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_026C_01C10DFD.1584DB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_026C_01C10DFD.1584DB80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 16 7:12:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net (cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net [198.5.241.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDB637B403 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:12:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rayhicks@UU.NET) Received: from imr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net by cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: imr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net [153.39.43.15]) id QQkxxw02271; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:12:41 GMT Received: from sysenglt112 by imr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: ippool144-213.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.144.213]) id QQkxxw27946; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:10:40 GMT Reply-To: From: "rayhicks" To: "'kevinb'" , Subject: RE: BSD web sites Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:05:39 -0400 Message-ID: <002801c10e00$651bbcb0$d5902799@sysenglt112> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://bsdvault.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of kevinb Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 3:17 PM To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BSD web sites Anyone know any really good geeky sites for myself (new to BSD). Cheers KevB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 16 10:28:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from infinity.infoinsights.com (infinity.infoinsights.com [208.151.124.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201C437B403 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:28:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisl@thethirdsector.com) Received: by infinity.thethirdsector.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:24:11 -0800 Message-ID: <70CDD1EE3A2CD511993900104B0A30A201A76A@infinity.thethirdsector.com> From: Chris Lott To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: Inherited a system Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:24:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've inherited a FreeBSD system (uname says: 3.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0:). I have quite a bit of experience with Linux, but not much with FreeBSD. I am impressed at this point because this box is the most stable of our underpowered boxes, but I am quite unclear on syhstem particulars. My main worries right now are: disaster recovery and upgrading to a more recent version. This box does heavy duty service as a web server with a mix of static and slash sites and a mail system (using PostFix) not to mention backup DNS. Because there is so much stuff going on, some of which I am probably unaware of, my normal upgrade procedure of wipe, install new OS, and reinstall sites and apps isn't possible. Should I worry about upgrading? Any advice about disaster recovery routines? c -- Chris Lott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 16 11:51: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5075F37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:50:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f6GIXuC29626; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 19:33:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 19:33:56 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Chris Lott Cc: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Inherited a system Message-ID: <20010716193356.P27331@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <70CDD1EE3A2CD511993900104B0A30A201A76A@infinity.thethirdsector.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kZU6r8y0YpRwyDfh" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <70CDD1EE3A2CD511993900104B0A30A201A76A@infinity.thethirdsector.com>; from chrisl@thethirdsector.com on Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 09:24:10AM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --kZU6r8y0YpRwyDfh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 09:24:10AM -0800, Chris Lott wrote: > I've inherited a FreeBSD system (uname says: 3.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.2-RELE= ASE > #0:). I have quite a bit of experience with Linux, but not much with > FreeBSD. I am impressed at this point because this box is the most stable= of > our underpowered boxes, but I am quite unclear on syhstem particulars.=20 >=20 > My main worries right now are: disaster recovery and upgrading to a more > recent version. This box does heavy duty service as a web server with a m= ix > of static and slash sites and a mail system (using PostFix) not to mention > backup DNS. Because there is so much stuff going on, some of which I am > probably unaware of, my normal upgrade procedure of wipe, install new OS, > and reinstall sites and apps isn't possible. >=20 > Should I worry about upgrading? Any advice about disaster recovery routin= es? In all honesty, your best bet would be to get a scratch machine handy, install FreeBSD on it, and admin it for a bit -- get to grips with the ports systems, where config files are kept, how the system is configured, and so on. 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------=_Part_36580_316949753.995317372092-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 17 13:35:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.netc.pt (smtp2.netc.pt [212.18.160.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4CD37B407 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:35:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com) Received: from p185-237.netc.pt by smtp2.netc.pt (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0GGM00F29X7HFJ@smtp2.netc.pt>; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:35:42 +0100 (WET DST) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:37:15 +0100 (WEST) From: Nuno Teixeira Subject: passwords: md5 or shadow? To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <20010717212917.Y1180-100000@> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'd like to know what passwords FreeBSD uses by default. I have imported a lot of user accounts from a RedHat server and now I got two type of passwords: 1. a password begining with $ 2. and a shorter one (FreeBSD) And the 2 types of accounts works ok. Please tell me if it is possible to convert RedHat passwords to FreeBSD format (MD5 ?) I got this doubt when I have to install qpopper with or without the "enable-specialauth" option that is for systems that uses shadow passwords. Thanks very much, -- Nuno Teixeira Dir. Técnico pt-quorum.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 18 17: 4:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from lorax.cse.ucsc.edu (lorax.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.49.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18ACA37B403; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:04:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carvalho@soe.ucsc.edu) Received: from localhost (carvalho@localhost) by lorax.cse.ucsc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA22221; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:04:07 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: lorax.cse.ucsc.edu: carvalho owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:04:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Marcelo Carvalho X-Sender: carvalho@lorax.cse.ucsc.edu To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Adding new files to netinet Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm currently trying to modify some files and add others in the /usr/src/sys/netinet directory. I'm following the procedures of kernel compilation but, apparently, the files I've added don't seem to have compiled. How do I know that they have been compiled successfuly and what else should I do apart from the sequence "config/make depend/make/make install/reboot"? Do I have to change any specific makefile? Where? I'm new to all this stuff. I would really appreciate if someone could give me some guidance here. Thanks, -- Marcelo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 19 0:29:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE6437B401; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 00:29:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f6J7MsJ78183; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:22:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:22:54 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Marcelo Carvalho Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adding new files to netinet Message-ID: <20010719102254.E69276@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Marcelo Carvalho , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from carvalho@soe.ucsc.edu on Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 05:04:06PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 05:04:06PM -0700, Marcelo Carvalho wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm currently trying to modify some files and add others in the > /usr/src/sys/netinet directory. I'm following the procedures of kernel > compilation but, apparently, the files I've added don't seem to have > compiled. How do I know that they have been compiled successfuly and what > else should I do apart from the sequence "config/make depend/make/make > install/reboot"? > > Do I have to change any specific makefile? Where? > > I'm new to all this stuff. I would really appreciate if someone > could give me some guidance here. > You'll need to edit the sys/conf/files file. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 19 2:19: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from miranda.mbl.uib.no (miranda.mbl.uib.no [129.177.70.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA62A37B403 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 02:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karin@miranda.mbl.uib.no) Received: (from karin@localhost) by miranda.mbl.uib.no (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f6J9FHX94064 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 11:15:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from karin) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 11:15:17 +0200 From: Karin Lagesen To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ascd and windowmaker problem Message-ID: <20010719111517.C91808@miranda.mbl.uib.no> Mail-Followup-To: Karin Lagesen , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just thought I'd ask you guys... I am running windowmaker-0.62.1 as my wm. I am also using ascd-0.13.2 to play cds. The problem I have is that I cannot get the *expletive* thing to dock on the right, as it says that it should be able to. Does anybody here have it docked? What do I write? Mvh, Karin, who is very annoyed. -- Karin Lagesen, karin@ii.uib.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 19 10: 9:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D2437B405 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:09:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA26D6; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:16:01 -0700 Message-ID: <3B571444.DF264EAA@acuson.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:09:24 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karin Lagesen Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ascd and windowmaker problem References: <20010719111517.C91808@miranda.mbl.uib.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Karin Lagesen wrote: > > Just thought I'd ask you guys... > > I am running windowmaker-0.62.1 as my wm. I am also using ascd-0.13.2 > to play cds. The problem I have is that I cannot get the *expletive* > thing to dock on the right, as it says that it should be able to. > Does anybody here have it docked? What do I write? This isn't really a FreeBSD question. Unfortunately, the WindowMaker documentation is so out of date as to constitute no documentation at all. I would try a different CD dockapp. Go to www.windowmaker.org and follow the links to the dockapps... David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 19 10:16:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.medisite.net (mail.medisite.net [194.98.201.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E16E37B408 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:16:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jean-sebastien.pedron@medisite.net) Received: from medisite.net (gw2.medisite.net [194.98.201.3]) by mail.medisite.net (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f6JHGIq14738 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 19:16:18 +0200 Message-ID: <3B5715E9.8070307@medisite.net> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 19:16:25 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DS=E9bastien=20P=E9dron?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Newbies Subject: ADSL disconnection Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello the list I have recently send a mail about disconnection of my ADSL line. The modem was not responding after, and i had to turn it off and back, so I can reconnect with ppp. I exchanged the modem with a new one, but the problem is still here. So it does not come from the modem. When I use it directly under Windows, there is no disconnection. Therefore, the problem must be in my configuration of PPP. I use the script found in the Handbook and tried to tune it with other scripts found on the web, but the disconnections persist... Here is my hardware : Pentium 166 MMX NIC Realtek 8029 10 Mbps with 'ed' driver Modem Alcatel Speed Touch Home (Ethernet) I use FreeBSD 4.3 with the included PPP. If you could help me... Thanks. Jean-Sebastien Pedron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 19 17: 7:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AEC37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:07:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glyphix@mac.com) Received: by smtpout.mac.com; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200107200007.RAA17454@smtpout.mac.com> Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GGQWCH00.OOS for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:07:29 -0700 Received: from localhost ([66.59.188.226]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 6 2001 13:16:42) with ESMTP id GGQWCG00.H0T for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:07:28 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 20:05:25 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v388) From: GLYPHIX Sales To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.388) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Upgrading a FreeBSD 3.2 to FreeBSD-Stable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everyone. So here I am, trying to update a 3.2 (or so) release to FreeBSD-Stable. I execute: make buildworld -DNOPERL ...as-per the UPDATE documentation, and upon building something really early, I get undefined symbols strlcpy, strlcat. I'm sure someone's done this before, and I need to upgrade our servers to 4.x from 3.2 to be able to properly run mySQL. Has anyone run into this and if so, any pointers? Thanks, Mark ps. please cc me on any replies, thanks! --- GLYPHIX Diagramming for Mac OS X http://homepage.mac.com/glyphix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 19 18:17:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.vkpc.com (cr1004613-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.38.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 595E937B406 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:17:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danny@vkpc.com) Received: (qmail 974 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2001 01:17:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dyoo) (192.168.1.10) by cr1004613-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2001 01:17:09 -0000 From: "Danny Yoo" To: Subject: Illegal cable configuration?? (SCSI, new install of FreeBSD) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:18:09 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to set up FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE on an old IBM PC Server 330 (Pentium Pro 200). It's got an on-board Adaptec 7880 SCSI controller, and I've only got two SCSI devices inside: a Quantum HD and an IBM CD-ROM. My problem is that when the system boots up with mfsroot.flp (boot disk #2) AFTER the kernel configuration, I get a message akin to: ahc0: Illegal cable configuration!! Only two connectors on the adapter may be used at a time! And then a few lines later it hangs at: "Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle" Now, the system is currently running Corel Linux just fine; I can access the HD and CD-ROM without a hitch. I'm _pretty_ sure that the SCSI connections are properly terminated (this is my first time using a SCSI system)... I say that solely based on the fact that Corel works just fine. I'd assume that an ill-configured SCSI system would create noticeable problems right away? I'm not sure what the system means by: "Only two connectors on the adapter may be used at a time!" The external connector isn't used and the external termination jumper is set (I've tried it in both positions); only the internal connector cable is used which connects first to the HD then to the CD-ROM. I've tried reversing the order, I've tried disconnecting the CD-ROM from the system to no avail. I've looked through the BIOS for "auto-termination/hardware-termination" options (suggested in an archive posting) but my system apparently does not have such a feature. I'm sorry if the specifications of my problem is too vague; I'll gladly try to offer more information if it is needed. I have spent about 1.5 hours searching google and the digest archives; one other person had the EXACT same problem as I did, but the only person to respond to him told him that he should post to this list (I guess he was posting somewhere else). Much thanks in advance, Danny Yoo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 19 21:37:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from earthquake.mweb.co.za (earthquake.mweb.co.za [196.2.53.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED1237B406 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 21:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from psyv@root.org.za) Received: from pta-dial-196-31-186-240.mweb.co.za ([196.31.186.240]) by earthquake.mweb.co.za (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0GGR00HDV8T6RG@earthquake.mweb.co.za> for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 06:37:15 +0200 (SAT) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 06:38:26 +0200 (SAST) From: The Psychotic Viper Subject: Re: Upgrading a FreeBSD 3.2 to FreeBSD-Stable In-reply-to: <200107200007.RAA17454@smtpout.mac.com> X-Sender: psyv@lucifer.fuzion.za.org To: GLYPHIX Sales Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, GLYPHIX Sales wrote: > Hi everyone. > > So here I am, trying to update a 3.2 (or so) release to FreeBSD-Stable. > I execute: > > make buildworld -DNOPERL > > ...as-per the UPDATE documentation, and upon building something really > early, I get undefined symbols strlcpy, strlcat. I'm sure someone's done > this before, and I need to upgrade our servers to 4.x from 3.2 to be > able to properly run mySQL. Has anyone run into this and if so, any > pointers? > try updating the system to an an earlier 4.x-RELEASE first then to the current -STABLE. I had problems jumping from 3.4 to 4.x because of a somewhat outdated gcc. I suggest 4.1-RELEASE because that worked perfectly for me. PsyV To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 20 0: 3:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from albatross-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se (albatross-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567F137B403 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 00:03:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Silakhdar.Krikeb@uab.ericsson.se) Received: from ms.uab.ericsson.se. (ms.uab.ericsson.se [134.138.201.16]) by albatross.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.11.0/8.11.0/WIREfire-1.3) with ESMTP id f6K738N22682 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:03:08 +0200 (MEST) Received: from uabx01c479.uab.ericsson.se. (uabx01c479 [134.138.227.239]) by ms.uab.ericsson.se. (8.11.1/8.11.1/uab-3.6) with ESMTP id f6K738t15621 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:03:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from uab.ericsson.se by uabx01c479.uab.ericsson.se. (8.8.7/client-1.3) id JAA22419; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:03:07 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3B57D7AA.CF662371@uab.ericsson.se> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:03:06 +0200 From: Silakhdar Krikeb Organization: Ericsson Utvecklings AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77C-CCK-MCD [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: sv,en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD installation =?iso-8859-1?Q?f=F6r?= a newbie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I'm trying to install FreeBSD (freebsd 4.3-release) for the first time. Earlier i hade linux and win98 that worked fine. I removed linux and repartitioned the mig hard disk into two primary partitions (i used PartitionMagic). the win98 partition is 1800M. The Freebsd partition would be about 4349M. The problem that i faced was that Freebsd didn't recognize the geometry of my harddisk, which is 784/255/63 (C/H/S). FreeBSD's FDISK editor show allways the value 204/255/63 (which means that the harddisk has only 1880M) I tried to change the values (C/H/S) from the FDISK EDITOR during the installation process using the the commando G = set set geometry. But this didn't work. Any idea what to do? With best regards. Silakhdar Krikeb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 20 7:23:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A10337B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 07:23:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 9249 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jul 2001 14:23:49 -0000 Received: from pd950a3cf.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO kiste) (217.80.163.207) by mail.gmx.net (mp008-rz3) with SMTP; 20 Jul 2001 14:23:49 -0000 Message-ID: <004301c11127$76835600$0408a8c0@kiste> From: "Michael Nottebrock" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-S=E9bastien_P=E9dron?= , "FreeBSD Newbies" References: <3B5715E9.8070307@medisite.net> Subject: Re: ADSL disconnection Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 16:22:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Sébastien Pédron" To: "FreeBSD Newbies" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: ADSL disconnection > Hello the list > > I have recently send a mail about disconnection of my ADSL line. The > modem was not responding after, and i had to turn it off and back, so I > can reconnect with ppp. I exchanged the modem with a new one, but the > problem is still here. So it does not come from the modem. When I use it > directly under Windows, there is no disconnection. Therefore, the > problem must be in my configuration of PPP. I use the script found in > the Handbook and tried to tune it with other scripts found on the web, > but the disconnections persist... > [...] Could you provide your /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and your /etc/rc.conf (at least the "interface_" and the "ppp" lines)? 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Yanco (281)292-9810 Office (281)292-9331 Fax E-mail: info@wpi2001.com Web Site: http://wpi2001.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 20 19:10:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C76737B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 19:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6L2A1265675 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 19:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 19:10:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200107210210.f6L2A1265675@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jul 21 6:29: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate3.cinetic.de (mailgate3.cinetic.de [212.227.116.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC4037B403 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 06:28:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from survive@web.de) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [194.45.170.210]) by mailgate3.cinetic.de (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with SMTP id f6LDSwg14133 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 15:28:58 +0200 Received: from web.de by smtp.web.de with smtp (freemail 4.2.2.2 #11) id m15NwoT-007oG8C; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 15:28 +0200 Message-ID: <3B598272.6467FBBF@web.de> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 15:24:02 +0200 From: Thilo Matschke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.7 i586) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: No idea, how to .. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi freebsd-team, I just have no idea how to get started with i4b, have a running FREE-bsd (4.3) a supported isdn-card, (Fritz PCI), but no idea where to begin, would be happy to get the first step, t***O To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jul 21 11:30:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC23D37B405 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 11:30:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 12834 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2001 18:30:46 -0000 Received: from pd4b9eef9.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO kiste) (212.185.238.249) by mail.gmx.net (mp002-rz3) with SMTP; 21 Jul 2001 18:30:46 -0000 Message-ID: <005a01c11213$221a1da0$0408a8c0@localdomain> From: "Michael Nottebrock" To: "Thilo Matschke" , References: <3B598272.6467FBBF@web.de> Subject: Re: No idea, how to .. Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 20:29:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thilo Matschke" To: Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 3:24 PM Subject: No idea, how to .. > Hi freebsd-team, > I just have no idea how to get started with i4b, > have a running FREE-bsd (4.3) > a supported isdn-card, (Fritz PCI), > but no idea where to begin, > would be happy to get the first step, > t***O http://www.freebsd-support.de/i4b/documentation.html is probably a good place to start. Greetings, Michael Nottebrock To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jul 21 17:38:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sims-mx2.mt.sfl.net (sims-mx2.mt.sfl.net [209.135.99.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240D337B405 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:38:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@oaai.com) Received: from sims-px2.mt.sfl.net (sims-px2 [209.135.99.10]) by sims-mx2.mt.sfl.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.05.17.04.13.p6) with ESMTP id <0GGU0053QN46AJ@sims-mx2.mt.sfl.net> for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 18:38:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (h66-59-188-226.gtconnect.net [66.59.188.226]) by sims-px2.mt.sfl.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.05.17.04.13.p6) with ESMTP id <0GGU00H0QN3NX1@sims-px2.mt.sfl.net> for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 20:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 20:36:12 -0400 From: Mark Onyschuk Subject: [UPDATE] Upgrading a FreeBSD 3.2 to FreeBSD-Stable To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <0GGU00H0RN3NX1@sims-px2.mt.sfl.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.388) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After lots of head-scratching, I'm only marginally further towards moving my 3.x system over to 4.x. I've successfully managed to upgrade the system to RELENG_3_5_0_STABLE, and the build went smoothly - as described in the docs. I figured that if I upgraded to something a bit more recent first then made a jump to say, RELENG_4_0_0_RELEASE, things would be less error-prone. No such luck. My build still dies in the exact same spot - building the include for libobjc - where it attempts to copy nonexistent .h files from out of /usr/src/contrib/gcc/objc. Now, I can almost guarantee that my /usr/src is exactly what's tagged as RELENG_4_0_0_RELEASE because I cleaned out the whole thing and used anoncvs to grab the sources. Comparing with what I see on www.freebsd.org via their CVS web interface seems to indicate what's there and what's here are the same (that wasn't so when I used cvsup). So my question is, how did they ever manage to actually build that 4.0 CD anyway? :-) Anyone ever run into this libobjc problem? I love the language (all of our commercial apps are written in it), but I'd just as soon dump the thing on our FreeBSD boxen if it would get me a 4.x kernel. Regards, Mark ps. please cc me on any replies, thanks! --- GLYPHIX Diagramming for Mac OS X http://homepage.mac.com/glyphix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jul 21 19:21:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from jhb-proxy.mweb.co.za (jhb-proxy.mweb.co.za [196.2.48.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDEC37B407 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 19:21:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from psyv@root.org.za) Received: from pta-dial-196-31-187-73.mweb.co.za ([196.31.187.73]) by jhb-proxy.mweb.co.za (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0GGU00D12RUX8B@jhb-proxy.mweb.co.za> for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 04:20:59 +0200 (GMT-2) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 04:22:45 +0200 (SAST) From: The Psychotic Viper Subject: Re: [UPDATE] Upgrading a FreeBSD 3.2 to FreeBSD-Stable In-reply-to: <0GGU00H0RN3NX1@sims-px2.mt.sfl.net> X-Sender: psyv@lucifer.fuzion.za.org To: Mark Onyschuk Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Mark Onyschuk wrote: > My build still dies in the exact same spot - building the include for > libobjc - where it attempts to copy nonexistent .h files from out of > /usr/src/contrib/gcc/objc. Now, I can almost guarantee that my /usr/src > is exactly what's tagged as RELENG_4_0_0_RELEASE because I cleaned out > the whole thing and used anoncvs to grab the sources. Comparing with > what I see on www.freebsd.org via their CVS web interface seems to > indicate what's there and what's here are the same (that wasn't so when Recall reading somewhere 4_0_0 was somewhat broken, could be old news and fixed bet it is at the rate the guys work hard at fixing stuff but rather just try 4_1_0 , it worked for me on a 3.4 update to 4.1. Else try the usual make clean in /usr/src and rm -rf /usr/obj/* (as per handbook when I read it). > > Regards, > Mark > > ps. please cc me on any replies, thanks! > hth PsyV To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jul 21 23: 1: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from drake.host4u.net (drake.host4u.net [216.71.64.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A8537B405; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 23:01:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsddiary@drake.host4u.net) Received: (from freebsddiary@localhost) by drake.host4u.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA14193; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 01:07:00 -0500 Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 01:07:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200107220607.BAA14193@drake.host4u.net> From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2001-07-01 - 2001-07-21 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-newbies and freebsd-questions with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 12-Jul : Client Authentication with SSL do you know who is using your website? http://freebsddiary.org/openssl-client-authentication.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jul 21 23:19:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bryden.apana.org.au (bryden.apana.org.au [203.3.126.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBD537B405; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 23:19:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from dougy ([192.168.0.130]) by bryden.apana.org.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA03324; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 16:16:56 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Message-ID: <002301c11277$8ee40180$8200a8c0@apana.org.au> From: "Doug Young" To: "Silakhdar Krikeb" , Cc: References: <3B57D7AA.CF662371@uab.ericsson.se> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_FreeBSD_installation_f=F6r_a_newbie?= Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 16:28:34 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The experts probably regard this as a "technical" question that would be better posted to the questions rather than the newbies list. Personally I've always regarded multi-O/S boot managers as evil ... a far more straightforward solution is to use a totally separate hard drive for each operating system. As long as you don't have messy boot sector stuff, FreeBSD doesn't appear to be particularly concerned about hard drive size. eg I've got a few old Digital Venturis / Celebris systems with BIOS that identified 4 & 8 Gb drives as 99Mb, but most of them find the correct amount of space during installation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Silakhdar Krikeb" To: Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 5:03 PM Subject: FreeBSD installation för a newbie > Hi! > I'm trying to install FreeBSD (freebsd 4.3-release) for the first time. > Earlier i hade linux and win98 that worked fine. I removed linux and > repartitioned the mig hard disk into two primary partitions (i used > PartitionMagic). the win98 partition is 1800M. The Freebsd partition > would be about 4349M. > The problem that i faced was that Freebsd didn't recognize the geometry > of my harddisk, which is 784/255/63 (C/H/S). > FreeBSD's FDISK editor show allways the value 204/255/63 (which means > that the harddisk has only 1880M) > I tried to change the values (C/H/S) from the FDISK EDITOR during the > installation process using the the commando G = set set geometry. But > this didn't work. > Any idea what to do? > > > With best regards. > Silakhdar Krikeb > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message