From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 19 7:57:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from infofreebsd.org (dsl-64-193-145-21.telocity.com [64.193.145.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869C937B410 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 07:57:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from herlan_b@infofreebsd.org) Received: from localhost (herlan_b@localhost) by infofreebsd.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7JEvDH25064; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 10:57:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from herlan_b@infofreebsd.org) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 10:57:13 -0400 (EDT) From: herlan To: "Timothy J. Luoma" Cc: freebsd-newbies Subject: Re: So I've installed, now what? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010819105236.I25058-100000@infofreebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > So now I've got a relly nifty commandline prompt and about 1,000 different > things I'll need to do (configure X, sound?, Ethernet PC cards). if you want to configure winX and ethernet card, you can use /stant/sysinstall > > But where to start? Is there a list somewhere of "What newbies ought to do > after they install" ? (CVSUP? What's that? How do I get myself current > from the 4.3 ISO release?) go to http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ and http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html i hope that will help you herlan b http://www.infofreebsd.org FreeBSD Users Group in Indonesia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 19 17:34:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (granger.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4BE37B417 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 17:34:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arlankfo@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ivemeu.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.89.222]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12045 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200108200034.UAA12045@granger.mail.mindspring.net> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: question for the experts Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:34:52 -0400 From: Andrew Lankford Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I noticed that when I invoke the command ls -iCF / I get this: 371 COPYRIGHT 304 kernel* 2 proc/ 11787 bin/ 372 kernel.GENERIC* 11883 root/ 36 boot/ 350 kernel.old* 294 sbin/ 11785 cdrom/ 11882 mnt/ 11777 stand/ 375 compat@ 469472 mnt2/ 370 sys@ 5888 dev/ 469472 mnt3/ 2 tmp/ 28 etc/ 154 modules/ 2 usr/ 384 home@ 11897 modules.old/ 2 var/ Now, as I read the ls man page, the -i option should list the inode of each file to the left of that file. All well and good. But aren't all truly unique files (i.e. no hard links) in a file system supposed to have unique inodes, even if the files in question are directories (i.e. just special files ) ? The tmp, usr, proc, and var directories seem to be behaving like unique directories as they should be, and mnt2 isn't mounted to the same file system as mnt3, certainly. So what gives? I'm scratching my head anyway. Is there a short answer to this puzzle? Andrew Lankford To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 19 18:55:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8280F37B408 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 18:55:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mimerki@saintmail.net) Received: from saintmail.net (nidoking-04.dynamic.rpi.edu [128.113.137.173]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7K1tMR26810; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:55:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3B807031.82127C34@saintmail.net> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:04:33 -0400 From: Marcia Barrett Nice X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vass D Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newsgroups ??? References: <20010818205940.50321.qmail@web14704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think dejanews has searchable records on newsgroups, but I don't know how far back they go. You might try there. Marci vass D wrote: > > hello all. so far i've been used to web-boards and > mailing list but i see a lot of unix world hangs > around usenet + newsgroups etc. > > i've tried a few news servers but it seems they only > got recent posts. google advanced search got me some > archives but even these dont go back as much as i > would... > > do u know of any site that has newsgroups archives, > preferably in downloadable form, so i can get the > whole thing? > > thanks > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 19 20: 8:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web14706.mail.yahoo.com (web14706.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9833C37B401 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:08:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vassd2000@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010820030813.17752.qmail@web14706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.251.12.114] by web14706.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:08:13 PDT Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:08:13 -0700 (PDT) From: vass D Subject: Re: newsgroups ??? To: Marcia Barrett Nice Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3B807031.82127C34@saintmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, thanks for replying. yep, i tried it. but it doesn't go back more than 3 or 4 months... do you know any others or any server that has them in downloadable form? --- Marcia Barrett Nice wrote: > I think dejanews has searchable records on > newsgroups, but I don't know > how far back they go. You might try there. > > Marci > > vass D wrote: > > > > hello all. so far i've been used to web-boards and > > mailing list but i see a lot of unix world hangs > > around usenet + newsgroups etc. > > > > i've tried a few news servers but it seems they > only > > got recent posts. google advanced search got me > some > > archives but even these dont go back as much as i > > would... > > > > do u know of any site that has newsgroups > archives, > > preferably in downloadable form, so i can get the > > whole thing? > > > > thanks > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute > with Yahoo! Messenger > > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 20 13:35:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from inf.ufpr.br (caco.inf.ufpr.br [200.17.212.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8707A37B419 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:35:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lfsb01@inf.ufpr.br) Received: (qmail 19485 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2001 20:35:56 -0000 Received: from dupont.inf.ufpr.br (200.17.212.160) by caco.inf.ufpr.br with SMTP; 20 Aug 2001 20:35:56 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:39:45 -0300 (BRT) From: Leonardo Boiko To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: BSD-related e-mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! My name is Leonardo Boiko, a young Computer Science student. I don't have much money, so I need to stick with old computers. I installed FreeBSD and I found the OS of my life! I tried Linux in (my father's) 150mhz Pentium and KDE was more-than-annoying slow. Now I have FreeBSD in my brand-new 100mhz Pentium and KDE is surprising fast. Of course, nowadays I use only Blackbox... (OK, OK, I 'll tell the truth: I like FreeBSD because the daemon's cutter :^) ) So I got FreeBSD, two stickers and a daemon badge. Everything is working smooth and fast and finally I can learn UNIX at home. But I'm missing something. A BSD e-mail. How can I get a my_name@freebsd.something? DISCLAIMER: this message was made by a brazilian boy who learned English playing videogames, and so it is provided "as is", without warranty. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 20 13:41:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C33F37B403 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:41:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamellr@1nova.com) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9A20118EA; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A08918E9; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:42:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Hamell To: Leonardo Boiko Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD-related e-mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > So I got FreeBSD, two stickers and a daemon badge. Everything is working > smooth and fast and finally I can learn UNIX at home. But I'm missing > something. A BSD e-mail. How can I get a my_name@freebsd.something? Join the core team by releasing improvements to the system... :) > DISCLAIMER: this message was made by a brazilian boy who learned English > playing videogames, and so it is provided "as is", without warranty. That's ok... that's how I learned my Japanese.... :) Rick ******************************************************************* Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://hw.shatteredcrystal.com ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 20 15:18:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.alink.net (spoon-server1-eth.sv.alink.net [207.135.64.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A172137B40F for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@fbuc.org) Received: from tbird (cx527587-a.dt1.sdca.home.com [24.21.17.144]) by spoon.alink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA20546 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003a01c129c6$2a47b350$1200a8c0@tbird> From: "Bad Mamma Jamma" To: Subject: problems with VMware Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:19:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C1298B.7DAD58F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C1298B.7DAD58F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everybody, I've searched the archives and so far have not found an = answer to my problem. I'm having some difficulties configuring VMware = for FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE. The build and version of VMware is = vmware2-2.0.4.1142. My problem arises when I attempt to use Bridge = Networking. The install of VMware goes fine, but when I go to "power = on" to install an OS, it gives me the following error: =20 > Could not query bridging status on /dev/vmnet0: Invalid argument > Failed to configure ethernet0. When I run kldstat, I get: > 2 1 0xc109a000 7000 linprocfs.ko > 5 1 0xc10ed000 9000 vmmon_up.ko (among others of course) but what I am not getting, which I've been = told should be there, is vmnet.ko. I searched for vmnet.ko to load it = manually and it doesn't exist on my system anywhere. Could this be the = problem getting in the way and giving me the error up above? =20 Also, when I run 'ifconfig vmnet0' I get: > ifconfig: interface vmnet0 does not exist And when I run 'ifconfig vmnet1' I get: > vmnet1: flags=3D8943 = mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > inet6 fe80::2bd:a4ff:fe02:1%vmnet1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7 > ether 00:bd:a4:02:00:01 So, obviously vmnet0 is not configured, or in existance. And I'm afraid = I don't have enough experience at this point to really know what the = heck is going on. Can anyone shed any light on this? I'm pretty much = totally confused at this point. : ) Any help you could provide would = be greatly appreciated. =20 Thanks for your time, Mike ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C1298B.7DAD58F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey everybody, I've searched the = archives and so=20 far have not found an answer to my problem.  I'm having some = difficulties=20 configuring VMware for FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE.  The build and version = of VMware=20 is vmware2-2.0.4.1142.  My problem arises when I attempt to use = Bridge=20 Networking.  The install of VMware goes fine, but when I go to = "power on"=20 to install an OS, it gives me the following error: 
 
> Could not query bridging status on = /dev/vmnet0: Invalid argument
> Failed to configure=20 ethernet0.
When I run kldstat, I get:
 
> 2    1 = 0xc109a000=20 7000     linprocfs.ko
> 5    1=20 0xc10ed000 9000     vmmon_up.ko
 (among others of course)  = but what I am=20 not getting, which I've been told should be there, is vmnet.ko.  I = searched=20 for vmnet.ko to load it manually and it doesn't exist on my system=20 anywhere.  Could this be the problem getting in the way and = giving me=20 the error up above? 
 
Also, when I run 'ifconfig vmnet0' I=20 get:
 
> ifconfig: interface vmnet0 does = not=20 exist
And when I run 'ifconfig vmnet1' I=20 get:
 
> vmnet1:=20 flags=3D8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu=20 1500
> =        inet=20 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast=20 192.168.0.255
>        inet6=20 fe80::2bd:a4ff:fe02:1%vmnet1 prefixlen 64 scopeid=20 0x7
>        ether=20 00:bd:a4:02:00:01
So, obviously vmnet0 is not configured, = or in=20 existance.  And I'm afraid I don't have enough experience at this = point to=20 really know what the heck is going on.  Can=20 anyone shed any light on this?  I'm pretty much totally confused at = this=20 point.  : )  Any help you could provide would be greatly=20 appreciated. 
 
Thanks for your time, Mike
 
------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C1298B.7DAD58F0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 20 15:46:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (c007-h011.c007.snv.cp.net [209.228.33.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C07E37B409 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:46:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobolak@telocity.com) Received: (cpmta 12359 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2001 15:46:32 -0700 Received: from h204-247-48-68.aimnet.com (HELO ELVIS.swh.SynergyBiz.com) (204.247.48.68) by smtp.telocity.com (209.228.33.217) with SMTP; 20 Aug 2001 15:46:32 -0700 X-Sent: 20 Aug 2001 22:46:32 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:46:31 -0700 From: Brian Sobolak X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Personal Reply-To: Telocity X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4019693517.20010820154631@telocity.com> To: vass D Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: newsgroups ??? In-Reply-To: <20010820030813.17752.qmail@web14706.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010820030813.17752.qmail@web14706.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello vass, Sunday, August 19, 2001, 8:08:13 PM, you wrote: vD> hi, thanks for replying. yep, i tried it. but it vD> doesn't go back more than 3 or 4 months... vD> do you know any others or any server that has them in vD> downloadable form? I don't know specifically what you're looking for, but I'd check out GeoCrawler. They have the complete archives of the BSD mailing lists, which are probably just as good as the usenet discussions. And they go back for quite a number of years. http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/FreeBSD/ -- Best regards, Brian mailto:sobolak@telocity.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 21 0:53:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f93.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F28F37B418 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 00:53:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vyankowsky@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 00:53:34 -0700 Received: from 194.201.24.172 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 07:53:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.201.24.172] From: "Vladimir Yankowsky" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:53:34 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Aug 2001 07:53:34.0858 (UTC) FILETIME=[6106FEA0:01C12A16] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 22 10: 6:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from directcommunications.net (mailgate.bridgetrading.com [62.49.201.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F90637B414; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:52:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ringtones@mobiledirect.uk.com) Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by directcommunications.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f7MGqQ332067; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:52:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: hercules.bti.com: mail owned process doing -bs Received: by hercules.bti.com (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:44:45 +0100 Received: from mobiledirect.uk.com (aries.bti.com [10.54.1.1]) by directcommunications.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7MGiiU01504 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:44:44 +0100 Message-ID: <3B83E168.2090106@mobiledirect.uk.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:44:24 +0100 From: Mobile Ringtones User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.3+) Gecko/20010817 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ringtones@mobiledirect.uk.com Subject: Ringtones and Logos Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------050200090204050702040306" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------050200090204050702040306 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit newlogo




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nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7MJjId77280 for newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:45:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:45:18 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Review wanted -- Installing FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010822204518.H42448@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9s922KAXlWjPfK/Q" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --9s922KAXlWjPfK/Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, If you haven't looked at it recently, the "Installing FreeBSD" chapter in the Handbook has undergone quite a change recently. You can see it at http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html I'd like feedback, please, on everything up to and including section 2.5 ("Allocating Disk Space"). Is the new content more readable, and understandable? Are there any concepts that don't make sense, or that you think could be worded more clearly? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --9s922KAXlWjPfK/Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuEC80ACgkQk6gHZCw343Xf4gCfehErtImymi+6CPL6wUGeeCqM 3Y0AoIxPG6l/hg2Mhd07CaBxxHaUQqIn =WVvU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9s922KAXlWjPfK/Q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 22 12:57: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6911837B434 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:56:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA78089; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:52:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: "Timothy J. Luoma" Cc: freebsd-newbies Subject: Re: So I've installed, now what? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can read Sue Blake's weekly posting on resources for newbies. You can go to http://www.freebsd.org and find the link listing resources for newbies. This includes a link to my 10-page guide for newusers. The book I wrote for new users is also available from mall.daemonnews.org This includes (in Chapter 4) various stuff you can do from /stand/sysinstall in case you didn't do it as part of installation. Chapters 5-8 are on looking around the system, reading and editing files, finding out what's going on, adding users, and so forth. Chapters 9-11 are on third-party software (packages and ports)-- what's available, packages vs. ports, and how to install software and find it and run it after it's installed. Chapters 12-15 deal with getting your network connections set up, getting sound working, printing, and X Window, the graphical user interface. Chapter 16 is kernel configuration and 17 is updating the system and/or the ports collection. Chapter 18 is miscellaneous (including getting color on your console), 19 is crisis management, and 20 is other resources--good web sites of the types others have mentioned and other stuff--USENET, books, etc. It's called FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your Personal Computer. Annelise On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > I managed to d/l the ISO file, burn a CD (new CD burner ;-) and install > FreeBSD to dual boot on my Windows 2000 machine (a Dell Inspiron laptop > 7500). > > Yay! > > So now I've got a relly nifty commandline prompt and about 1,000 different > things I'll need to do (configure X, sound?, Ethernet PC cards). > > But where to start? Is there a list somewhere of "What newbies ought to do > after they install" ? (CVSUP? What's that? How do I get myself current > from the 4.3 ISO release?) > > (Yes I know these are -questions but I thought they fall under "helping each > other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources.") > > TjL > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 22 17:37:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13603.mail.yahoo.com (web13603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D5D8A37B40C for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:36:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bzdik@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010823003601.34829.qmail@web13603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.16.193.228] by web13603.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:36:01 PDT Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:36:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Bzdik BSD Subject: Re: So I've installed, now what? To: freebsd-newbies In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Excellent book! --- Annelise Anderson wrote: > You can read Sue Blake's weekly posting on resources for newbies. > > You can go to http://www.freebsd.org and find the link listing > resources for newbies. This includes a link to my 10-page guide > for newusers. > > The book I wrote for new users is also available from > mall.daemonnews.org > > This includes (in Chapter 4) various stuff you can do from > /stand/sysinstall in case you didn't do it as part of installation. > > Chapters 5-8 are on looking around the system, reading and editing > files, finding out what's going on, adding users, and so forth. > > Chapters 9-11 are on third-party software (packages and ports)-- > what's available, packages vs. ports, and how to install software > and find it and run it after it's installed. > > Chapters 12-15 deal with getting your network connections set up, > getting sound working, printing, and X Window, the graphical user > interface. > > Chapter 16 is kernel configuration and 17 is updating the system > and/or > the ports collection. > > Chapter 18 is miscellaneous (including getting color on your > console), > 19 is crisis management, and 20 is other resources--good web sites > of the types others have mentioned and other stuff--USENET, books, > etc. > > It's called FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your > Personal Computer. > > Annelise > > On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > > > > I managed to d/l the ISO file, burn a CD (new CD burner ;-) and > install > > FreeBSD to dual boot on my Windows 2000 machine (a Dell Inspiron > laptop > > 7500). > > > > Yay! > > > > So now I've got a relly nifty commandline prompt and about 1,000 > different > > things I'll need to do (configure X, sound?, Ethernet PC cards). > > > > But where to start? Is there a list somewhere of "What newbies > ought to do > > after they install" ? (CVSUP? What's that? How do I get myself > current > > from the 4.3 ISO release?) > > > > (Yes I know these are -questions but I thought they fall under > "helping each > > other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources.") > > > > TjL > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 24 9:10:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0C237B410 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcraig03@tampabay.rr.com) Received: from Debug (webmail.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.36]) by smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f7OGAI202083 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200108241610.f7OGAI202083@smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: jcraig03@tampabay.rr.com Subject: FreeBSD-STABLE Firewall with IPFILTER Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:10:18 US/Eastern X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.0.26 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Reffering to : ## How to Build a FreeBSD-STABLE Firewall with IPFILTER ## Applicable to: FreeBSD 4.3 ## Updated: July 5, 2001 ## Author: Marty Schlacter (marty@schlacter.net) ## Source URL: http://www.schlacter.net/public/FreeBSD-STABLE_and_IPFILTER.html ## http://www.schlacter.net/public/FreeBSD-STABLE_and_IPFILTER.pdf ## Here's my question: At page 21 step "F". I have two PCI network cards and I don't see a line for 'network_interfaces="ed0 ed1 lo0"' in that file. I know I can add it, but will 'ed0' and 'ed1' work for PCI NICs? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 24 10:11:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9DD037B409 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:11:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 18290 invoked by uid 0); 24 Aug 2001 17:11:19 -0000 Received: from pd4b9efbc.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO kiste) (212.185.239.188) by mail.gmx.net (mp002-rz3) with SMTP; 24 Aug 2001 17:11:19 -0000 Message-ID: <002d01c12cbf$cae27920$0408a8c0@localdomain> From: "Michael Nottebrock" To: , References: <200108241610.f7OGAI202083@smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD-STABLE Firewall with IPFILTER Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:11:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > [...] > > ## Source URL: http://www.schlacter.net/public/FreeBSD-STABLE_and_IPFILTER.html > > [...] > > At page 21 step "F". > > I have two PCI network cards and I don't see a line for > 'network_interfaces="ed0 ed1 lo0"' in that file. I know I can add it, but > will 'ed0' and 'ed1' work for PCI > NICs? If there is no 'network_interfaces=' line in your /etc/rc.conf, the line in /etc/defaults/rc.conf will be used, which reads 'network_interfaces="auto"'. This setting will enable all interfaces that have been enabled in the kernel. Take a look at the output of 'ifconfig' and 'dmesg' - you should find the device names of your NICs there. For example, on my machine, the output of 'dmesg' contains the lines: rl0: port 0x6000-0x60ff mem 0xe0201000-0xe02010ff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 rl0: Ethernet address: 00:00:1c:d3:f0:83 miibus0: on rl0 and further down: dc0: port 0x6100-0x61ff mem 0xe0200000-0xe02000ff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:80:ad:79:2b:42 miibus1: on dc0 So, my two pci NICs have the device names rl0 and dc0 and I'd have to substitute ed0 and ed1 with them (in /etc/rc.conf. Do NOT edit /etc/defaults/rc.conf). lo0 is the internal loopback device. Greetings, Michael Nottebrock To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 24 15:12:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pike.netdoor.com (netdoor.com [208.137.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D1C37B407 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 15:12:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from backdoc@netdoor.com) Received: from k6 (port117.jxn.netdoor.com [208.137.132.117]) by pike.netdoor.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA22114 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:12:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <012501c12cea$c1f65400$5cd294d0@k6> From: "darren" To: Subject: apache, php, mysql Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:18:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If I want to install apache, php and mysql, do I have to compile it from scratch? Or, is there a way to get it from ports? I see several apache ports. But, none of them mentions php or mysql. Darren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 24 19:10:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FAE37B40B for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7P2A0a63803 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:10:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108250210.f7P2A0a63803@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 25 4:48:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.originative.co.uk (mailgate.originative.co.uk [62.232.68.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9533037B40A for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 04:48:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@freebsd-services.com) Received: from lobster.originative.co.uk (lobster [62.232.68.81]) by mailgate.originative.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A511D146; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:48:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:48:46 +0100 From: Paul Richards To: darren , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache, php, mysql Message-ID: <433300000.998740126@lobster.originative.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <012501c12cea$c1f65400$5cd294d0@k6> References: <012501c12cea$c1f65400$5cd294d0@k6> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.0b3 (Linux/x86 Demo) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --On Friday, August 24, 2001 17:18:52 -0500 darren wrote: > If I want to install apache, php and mysql, do I have to compile it from > scratch? Or, is there a way to get it from ports? I see several apache > ports. But, none of them mentions php or mysql. > > Darren > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > If you build mod_php4 then it will build and install apache for you automatically. You'll need to build the mysql port separately but you don't need to build any of them from scratch, use the mod_php4 and mysql ports. Paul Richards FreeBSD Services Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 25 13: 3:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A26037B405 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f7PK3ae85102; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:03:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010803221311.00cb62e0@mail.intwebservices.com> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:03:36 -0500 (CDT) Organization: @Home Network From: Conrad Sabatier To: joel2a@yahoo.com Subject: RE: Microsoft bashers Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 04-Aug-2001 joel2a@yahoo.com wrote: > Well I just have to say that if there wasn't Windows we would all be back > the days of console prompt typing and there certainly would not be as many > people on the internet. Anyone who begins a post with a statement as absurdly ridiculous as this deserves only one of two things (or both): to be ignored or killfiled. Goodbye. -- Conrad Sabatier conrads@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 25 13:33:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gate.tellurian.net (gate.tellurian.net [216.182.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0ED937B409 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:33:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from walt@betan.com) Received: from walt99 (unverified [216.182.21.21]) by gate.tellurian.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 16:33:06 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010825162953.00d6aad0@pop3.palace.net> X-Sender: walterbetanc@pop3.palace.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 16:31:36 -0400 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Walter Betancourt Subject: re Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well I just have to say that if there wasn't Windows we would all be years ahead in computer technology. Walt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 25 14:54:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13602.mail.yahoo.com (web13602.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0AC7337B406 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:54:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bzdik@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010825215408.53463.qmail@web13602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.16.193.228] by web13602.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:54:08 PDT Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:54:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Bzdik BSD Subject: Sendmail patch? To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, Did I miss it somehow? I am subscribed to announce list , yet I haven't seen sendmail patch yet. TIA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 25 16:29: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow024o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01C937B40D for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 16:29:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ITServices@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from aliorhan ([62.30.68.145]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sun, 26 Aug 2001 00:29:10 +0100 From: "Stuart Duckworth" To: Conrad Sabatier , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, joel2a@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 00:30:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Microsoft bashers Reply-To: ITServices@cableinet.co.uk In-reply-to: References: <4.2.2.20010803221311.00cb62e0@mail.intwebservices.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-ID: <054111029231981PCOW024M@blueyonder.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 25 Aug 01, at 15:03, Conrad Sabatier wrote: > > On 04-Aug-2001 joel2a@yahoo.com wrote: > > Well I just have to say that if there wasn't Windows we would all be > > back the days of console prompt typing and there certainly would not be > > as many people on the internet. > > Anyone who begins a post with a statement as absurdly ridiculous as this > deserves only one of two things (or both): to be ignored or killfiled. > Joel, if history wasn't the way it is, it would be different. That does not preclude development of the internet nor something like Windows but different. And the internet started as Unix, IIRC. Until recently Bill Gates was on public record as saying that the internet was not going to be important ... even the devil can be wrong ;-)) And I do believe that GUIs were invented elsewhere and Microsoft copied and even purloined some of the code. Though I stand to be corrected about that. Conrad, your reply to Joel was somewhat OTT, but heartfelt for all that. Happy computing, chaps ;-)) Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 25 16:58:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pop3.telenet-ops.be (pop3.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE30C37B409 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 16:58:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@electriccheese.com) Received: from wolverine.pandora.be (D5E0036B.kabel.telenet.be [213.224.3.107]) by pop3.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F3D69BB23; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 01:58:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Dan Look To: ITServices@cableinet.co.uk, "Stuart Duckworth" , Conrad Sabatier , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, joel2a@yahoo.com Subject: RE: Microsoft bashers Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 01:57:45 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <4.2.2.20010803221311.00cb62e0@mail.intwebservices.com> <054111029231981PCOW024M@blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <054111029231981PCOW024M@blueyonder.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01082601582601.00417@wolverine.pandora.be> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The first GUI's were developed at Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Centre) (or so I've allways been told). And then first brought to public attention by Apple (mostly). I guess the early internet/arpanet ran mostly on Unix but I beleive TCP/IP was developed with cross platform compatability specifically in mind. And yes it's true, up untill around '95 MS had little or no interest in the 'net. Regards Dan On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, Stuart Duckworth wrote: > On 25 Aug 01, at 15:03, Conrad Sabatier wrote: > > > > > On 04-Aug-2001 joel2a@yahoo.com wrote: > > > Well I just have to say that if there wasn't Windows we would all be > > > back the days of console prompt typing and there certainly would not be > > > as many people on the internet. > > > > Anyone who begins a post with a statement as absurdly ridiculous as this > > deserves only one of two things (or both): to be ignored or killfiled. > > > > Joel, if history wasn't the way it is, it would be different. That does > not preclude development of the internet nor something like > Windows but different. And the internet started as Unix, IIRC. > Until recently Bill Gates was on public record as saying that the > internet was not going to be important ... even the devil can be > wrong ;-)) And I do believe that GUIs were invented elsewhere and > Microsoft copied and even purloined some of > the code. Though I stand to be corrected about that. > > Conrad, your reply to Joel was somewhat OTT, but heartfelt for all > that. > > Happy computing, chaps ;-)) > > Stuart > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 25 17:34:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from death.arcdiv.com (death.arcdiv.com [64.94.4.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AEF37B406 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 17:34:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin@ticktockman.com) Received: from ticktockman.com (c207-202-216-52.sea1.cablespeed.com [207.202.216.52]) by death.arcdiv.com (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f7Q0YFo101070; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 20:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B884440.9555A61C@ticktockman.com> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 17:35:12 -0700 From: kevin godfrey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Look Cc: ITServices@cableinet.co.uk, Conrad Sabatier , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, joel2a@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Microsoft bashers References: <4.2.2.20010803221311.00cb62e0@mail.intwebservices.com> <054111029231981PCOW024M@blueyonder.co.uk> <01082601582601.00417@wolverine.pandora.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Indeed, the first GUI was developed by Xerox at PARC. Apple licensed the technology for around a million bucks from Xerox (Xerox didn't think home computers were going to be a big thing). MS "borrowed" the technology, if I remember correctly, they were brought to court by Apple for their "borrowing" but Apple lost on a technicality. Other things of note developed at Xerox: The Mouse and Ethernet (the guy who founded 3Com, Bob can't-remember-his-last-name worked at PARC) Dan Look wrote: > > The first GUI's were developed at Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Centre) (or > so I've allways been told). And then first brought to public attention by Apple > (mostly). > > I guess the early internet/arpanet ran mostly on Unix but I beleive TCP/IP was > developed with cross platform compatability specifically in mind. > > And yes it's true, up untill around '95 MS had little or no interest in the > 'net. > [snip] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 25 18:23:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from chmls16.mediaone.net (chmls16.mediaone.net [24.147.1.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AB937B401 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 18:23:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brownicm@prokyon.com) Received: from mercedes.local.domain (h000103d2e005.ne.mediaone.net [66.31.215.73]) by chmls16.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f7Q1NlT11029; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 21:23:52 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Chris Browning To: kevin godfrey , Dan Look Subject: Re: Microsoft bashers Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 21:30:04 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: ITServices@cableinet.co.uk, Conrad Sabatier , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, joel2a@yahoo.com References: <4.2.2.20010803221311.00cb62e0@mail.intwebservices.com> <01082601582601.00417@wolverine.pandora.be> <3B884440.9555A61C@ticktockman.com> In-Reply-To: <3B884440.9555A61C@ticktockman.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0108252130040N.03063@mercedes.local.domain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday 25 August 2001 20:35, kevin godfrey wrote: > and Ethernet (the guy who founded 3Com, Bob can't-remember-his-last-name > worked at PARC) > Bob Metcalfe. Used to write a column for InfoWorld. Might still. Smart fella. -- ---------------------------- Chris Browning brownicm@prokyon.com ---------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message