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Sun, 9 Sep 2001 02:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tocom (ti41a14-0097.dialup.online.no [130.67.123.97]) by mail46.fg.online.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA10795 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 11:29:04 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <000e01c1395f$0b7b7080$617b4382@tocom> From: "Lal Manavado" To: Subject: Screen access in freebsd. Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 11:41:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C13924.5AFCB000" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C13924.5AFCB000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo there! Could anyone tell me when accessing to the screen content, does FreeBSD have the equivalent of Linux's vcsa devices which allows reading back the screen? This used to be unique to Linux I believe. My reason for this query, is that I am not very familiar with the nuts = and bolts of freebsd, and would like to use the os with a Braille = display. Thanks very much. Lal. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C13924.5AFCB000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hallo there!
 
Could anyone tell me when accessing to = the screen=20 content, does
FreeBSD have the equivalent of Linux's vcsa devices = which=20 allows reading
back the screen? This used to be unique to Linux I=20 believe.
 
My reason for this query, is that I am not very familiar with the = nuts and=20 bolts of freebsd, and would like to use the os with a Braille = display.
 
Thanks very much.
 
Lal.
 
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C13924.5AFCB000-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 9 5:23:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC5037B405 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 05:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f89CGKi90853; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 13:16:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 13:16:20 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Lal Manavado Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Screen access in freebsd. Message-ID: <20010909131620.Z66592@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Reply-To: nik@freebsd.org References: <000e01c1395f$0b7b7080$617b4382@tocom> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XilfshMFnlxBucLf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000e01c1395f$0b7b7080$617b4382@tocom>; from manavado@frisurf.no on Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 11:41:25AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --XilfshMFnlxBucLf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 11:41:25AM -0700, Lal Manavado wrote: > Could anyone tell me when accessing to the screen content, does > FreeBSD have the equivalent of Linux's vcsa devices which allows reading > back the screen? This used to be unique to Linux I believe. Not directly. 4-stable (and 4.4-RELEASE, when it comes out), and -current support a CONS_SCRSHOT ioctl, which can be used to capture the current contents of the video buffer. The "-P" and "-p" options to vidcontrol use this. Look at the dump_screen() function in src/usr.sbin/vidcontrol/vidcontrol.c to see the code. This is how the "screenshots" of Sysinstall in chapter 2 of the FreeBSD Handbook were generated -- we didn't run Sysinstall in an Xterm and grab the screen that way, we ran it in text mode, ran "vidcontrol -P ..." to dump the data, and then I have tools that convert this format to PNG and plain text (ports/graphics/scr2png, ports/textproc/scr2txt). > My reason for this query, is that I am not very familiar with the nuts=20 > and bolts of freebsd, and would like to use the os with a Braille display. OK. CONS_SCRSHOT currently just dumps the whole screen contents to a buffer that you provide. Is that sufficiently fine tuned for you, or do you need more control over which sections of the screen are grabbed? -newbies is the wrong mailing list for this discussion. I've set Reply-To to point back to me for the time being. hackers@freebsd.org is probably a better bet though. 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Ìû æäåì Âàñ è âûðàæàåì óâåðåííîñòü â òîì, ÷òî îáðàòèâøèñü ê íàì, Âû ïîëó÷èòå êâàëèôèöèðîâàííóþ ïîìîùü, âíèìàòåëüíîå îòíîøåíèå ê Âàøèì ïîòðåáíîñòÿì, îïåðàòèâíóþ îáðàáîòêó Âàøåãî çàêàçà. Ïî âñåì âîïðîñàì âû ìîæåòå îáðàùàòüñÿ ïî òåëåôîíàì: 275-89-94, 746-68-78. _______________________________________________________________________ Powered by List Builder To unsubscribe follow the link: http://lb.bcentral.com/ex/manage/subscriberprefs?customerid=15131&subid=BF7249DB85244A50&msgnum=1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Sep 10 7:42:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (smtp013.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84F4437B40F for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.218) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2001 14:42:26 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:48:54 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: freebsd newbies , freebsd-questions Subject: cvsuping stable Message-Id: <20010910104854.56d75a84.nmace85@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org here is the revelant line in my cvsup file: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_3 is that cvsuping 4.3 release? if so how do i get 4.3 stable or 4.4 release when it comes out? thanks -- Nathan Mace _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Sep 10 8: 3:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A70837B401; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sageone (ppp-208-191-234-64.dialup.crchtx.swbell.net [208.191.234.64]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA10874; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:03:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010910100343.010f76f0@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:03:43 -0500 To: Nathan Mace , freebsd newbies , freebsd-questions From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: cvsuping stable In-Reply-To: <20010910104854.56d75a84.nmace85@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wouldn't that be: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 instead of *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_3 At 10:48 AM 9.10.2001 -0400, Nathan Mace wrote: >here is the revelant line in my cvsup file: > >*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_3 > >is that cvsuping 4.3 release? if so how do i get 4.3 stable or 4.4 release when it comes out? thanks > >-- >Nathan Mace > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Sep 10 8: 4: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-2.ig.com.br (smtp-2.ig.com.br [200.226.132.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 091D237B401 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28936 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2001 15:00:21 -0000 Received: from adsl-fnsbnu-123-a.brt.telesc.net.br (HELO conrado) (@200.193.25.123) by smtp-2.ig.com.br with SMTP; 10 Sep 2001 15:00:21 -0000 From: "Conrado Vardanega" To: "Nathan Mace" Cc: Subject: Re: cvsuping stable Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:05:16 -0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-reply-to: <20010910104854.56d75a84.nmace85@yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you want to fetch the 4.4-RELEASE branch, set the line as follows: *default release=cvs tag=RELEASE_4_3_0_RELEASE Setting it to RELENG_4_3 you won't get the RELEASE, but will fetch only security patches instead. For more information on this, checkout the FreeBSD Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html []s, Conrado > -----Mensagem original----- > De: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]Em nome de Nathan Mace > Enviada em: segunda-feira, 10 de setembro de 2001 11:49 > Para: freebsd newbies; freebsd-questions > Assunto: cvsuping stable > > > here is the revelant line in my cvsup file: > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_3 > > is that cvsuping 4.3 release? if so how do i get 4.3 stable or > 4.4 release when it comes out? thanks > > -- > Nathan Mace > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Sep 10 8:40:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from reservoir.absolight.com (reservoir.absolight.com [212.43.217.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B219137B406; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bilbo.in.mat.cc (bilbo.in.mat.cc [212.43.217.121]) by reservoir.absolight.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB43D39E5; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:40:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from club-internet.fr (sauron.in.mat.cc [212.43.217.122]) by bilbo.in.mat.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD9B33524; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:39:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3B9CDEC0.44B20313@club-internet.fr> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:39:44 +0200 From: Mathieu Arnold Organization: http://www.absolight.com/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jacks@sage-american.com Cc: Nathan Mace , freebsd newbies , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: cvsuping stable References: <3.0.5.32.20010910100343.010f76f0@mail.sage-american.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > > Wouldn't that be: > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 > instead of > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_3 RELENG_4 is for 4.3-STABLE RELENG_4_3 is for security patches over 4.3-RELEASE -- Mathieu Arnold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Sep 10 14: 5:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1BB237B40A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.126) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2001 21:05:40 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:12:10 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: freebsd newbies Subject: cvsuping stable source Message-Id: <20010910171210.2cdde021.nmace85@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i posted a question on here about cvsuping stable or 4.4 release earlier today, can someone post the link that was given? it was in the freebsd handbook somewhere, but i acciendly deleted the email and i lost the link. it was a page that gave several examples that the users might be interested in cvsuping. thanks, sorry to be such a pain nathan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Sep 10 14:41:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [208.128.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F3137B407 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdprophet.org (grape18.theshop.net [206.30.141.211]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8ALege55833; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:40:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from scott@bsdprophet.org) Message-ID: <3B9D3385.3060706@bsdprophet.org> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:41:25 -0500 From: Scott Corey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010910 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nathan Mace Cc: freebsd newbies Subject: Re: cvsuping stable source References: <20010910171210.2cdde021.nmace85@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html Nathan Mace wrote: >i posted a question on here about cvsuping stable or 4.4 release earlier today, can someone post the link that was given? it was in the freebsd handbook somewhere, but i acciendly deleted the email and i lost the link. it was a page that gave several examples that the users might be interested in cvsuping. thanks, sorry to be such a pain > >nathan > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Sep 10 14:51:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9B2C37B403 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.126) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2001 21:51:36 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:58:06 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: Tim Erlin Cc: freebsd newbies Subject: Re: cvsuping stable source Message-Id: <20010910175806.1457ce97.nmace85@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010910214037.15895.qmail@web11706.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010910171210.2cdde021.nmace85@yahoo.com> <20010910214037.15895.qmail@web11706.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Here is *a* link. Don't know if it's *the* link: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/anoncvs.html yep that did it. thanks ; ) -- Nathan Mace _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Sep 10 18:18:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dcs-vaio.turner.com (rr-163-58-166.atl.mediaone.net [24.163.58.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E23737B408 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dcs-vaio.turner.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8AMljD00578 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:47:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dsnyder@web.turner.com) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:47:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "David C. Snyder" X-X-Sender: To: Subject: CD -> ISO-9660 Image Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm in the process of _upgrading_ my last Linux box to FreeBSD. The only common task for which I have not found a FreeBSD equivalent is creating an ISO 9660 image from a CD-ROM. Under Linux, I could do something like this: dd if=/dev/scd0 of=/data/images/new-image.iso Once this is done, I can either record the image to a blank CD, or mount it as a vnode disk that can be NFS exported or shared via SAMBA. I've grep'ed the FAQ's and the handbook, but couldn't find anything about this. If you have a pointer, I'd be grateful if you could pass it along. Thanks! -- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Sep 10 18:34:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from uce55.uchaswv.edu (uce55.uchaswv.edu [12.4.161.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8B437B405 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cheech.uchaswv.edu (cheech.uchaswv.edu [172.16.0.7]) by uce55.uchaswv.edu (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA11707; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:34:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:40:59 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: "David C. Snyder" , freebsd newbies Subject: Re: CD -> ISO-9660 Image Message-Id: <20010910214059.677a92d2.mace_nathan@uchaswv.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm in the process of _upgrading_ my last Linux box to FreeBSD. The > only common task for which I have not found a FreeBSD equivalent is > creating an ISO 9660 image from a CD-ROM. Under Linux, I could do > something like this: > > dd if=/dev/scd0 of=/data/images/new-image.iso > > Once this is done, I can either record the image to a blank CD, or > mount it as a vnode disk that can be NFS exported or shared via SAMBA. > > I've grep'ed the FAQ's and the handbook, but couldn't find anything > about this. If you have a pointer, I'd be grateful if you could pass > it along. Thanks! > > -- David try 'man burncd' -- Nathan Mace To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Sep 10 20: 0:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F7237B409 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b066.otenet.gr [195.167.121.194]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8B30cA18607; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 06:00:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8B318c27178; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 06:01:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 06:01:07 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "David C. Snyder" Cc: FREEBSD-NEWBIES@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD -> ISO-9660 Image Message-ID: <20010911060107.B26672@hades.hell.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dsnyder@web.turner.com on Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 06:47:45PM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3A 75 52 EB F1 58 56 0D - C5 B8 21 B6 1B 5E 4A C2 X-URL: http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: David C. Snyder Subject: CD -> ISO-9660 Image Date: Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 06:47:45PM -0400 > Hello, > > I'm in the process of _upgrading_ my last Linux box to FreeBSD. The > only common task for which I have not found a FreeBSD equivalent is > creating an ISO 9660 image from a CD-ROM. Under Linux, I could do > something like this: > > dd if=/dev/scd0 of=/data/images/new-image.iso > > Once this is done, I can either record the image to a blank CD, or > mount it as a vnode disk that can be NFS exported or shared via SAMBA. It works in FreeBSD too, but you have to explicitly request that bs=2048 (the size of single a sector is not 512 in cdroms). Example: # dd bs=2048 if=/dev/acd0c of=/home/ftp/ISO-IMAGES/win98osr2.iso -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 11 0:53:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.alink.net (spoon-server1-eth.sv.alink.net [207.135.64.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F65237B406 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TBird (cx527587-a.dt1.sdca.home.com [24.21.17.144]) by spoon.alink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA23886 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001001c13a96$f5c2bc10$1200a8c0@TBird> From: "Bad Mamma Jamma" To: Subject: cvsup problem Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:54:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C13A5C.492861B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C13A5C.492861B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, (running 4.1-RELEASE) I cvsup'd my ports collection last night = and now when I go to do my source tree, I get the following message: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libXaw.so.6" not found I've never had this before on my other FreeBSD systems, am I missing = something obvious? =20 Thanks for your help, Mike ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C13A5C.492861B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi all, (running 4.1-RELEASE) I cvsup'd = my ports=20 collection last night and now when I go to do my source tree, I get the=20 following message:
 
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object = "libXaw.so.6" not found
I've never had this before on my other = FreeBSD=20 systems, am I missing something obvious? 
 
 
Thanks for your help, Mike
 
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C13A5C.492861B0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 11 4:19:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dcs-vaio.turner.com (rr-163-58-166.atl.mediaone.net [24.163.58.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0628637B407 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 04:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dcs-vaio.turner.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8BBJK201046; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:19:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dsnyder@web.turner.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:19:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "David C. Snyder" X-X-Sender: To: Nathan Mace Cc: freebsd newbies Subject: Re: CD -> ISO-9660 Image In-Reply-To: <20010910214059.677a92d2.mace_nathan@uchaswv.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Actually, I did come across that man page in my search. This utility seems to have more to do with recording CD's than extracting images from them. I already use cdrecord for all of my CD burning needs. I just need a way to take a CD that already has data on it and extract that data as an ISO-9660 image that I can store on my hard disk. Thanks for taking the time to reply. If you know how to do what I'm asking, I'd be greatful for another pointer.... David C. Snyder CNN - Internet Technologies Desk: 404 827 1679 Nextel ID: 46 Cell: 770 616 0080 Pager: david_snyder@imcingular.com On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Nathan Mace wrote: > > I'm in the process of _upgrading_ my last Linux box to FreeBSD. The > > only common task for which I have not found a FreeBSD equivalent is > > creating an ISO 9660 image from a CD-ROM. Under Linux, I could do > > something like this: > > > > dd if=/dev/scd0 of=/data/images/new-image.iso > > > > Once this is done, I can either record the image to a blank CD, or > > mount it as a vnode disk that can be NFS exported or shared via SAMBA. > > > > I've grep'ed the FAQ's and the handbook, but couldn't find anything > > about this. If you have a pointer, I'd be grateful if you could pass > > it along. Thanks! > > > > -- David > > try 'man burncd' > > -- > Nathan Mace > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 11 6:32:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.cpts.pucrs.br (apollo.cpts.pucrs.br [200.17.94.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68CC37B40A for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 06:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cristal ([192.168.100.23]) by apollo.cpts.pucrs.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA45933 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:36:54 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from rodrigo@cpts.pucrs.br) Message-ID: <008a01c13ac6$4ebcb490$1764a8c0@cristal> From: "Rodrigo Castro" To: Subject: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:33:10 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 11 14:21:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from caroubier.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-6.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0812937B411 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from citronier.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.222) by caroubier.wanadoo.fr; 11 Sep 2001 23:21:36 +0200 Received: from hastur.rezo.net (217.128.68.84) by citronier.wanadoo.fr; 11 Sep 2001 23:20:43 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: pascal To: Scott Corey , Nathan Mace Subject: Re: cvsuping stable source Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:29:48 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd newbies References: <20010910171210.2cdde021.nmace85@yahoo.com> <3B9D3385.3060706@bsdprophet.org> In-Reply-To: <3B9D3385.3060706@bsdprophet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01091222294800.00382@hastur.rezo.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm really starting with freebsd (2 weeks) and i thought you could help me understand the following about cvsup, which i just installed and updated my ports with. So far so good. My question is about the sources and the manual is not very clear about : what happens after the cvsup job? Do i have to recompile something to switch to the new system or is it automatic? Can I backtrack in case of trouble? I'm running 4.3 (release) right now, i'd prefer not having to reinstall it :-) Will cvsup allow me to switch to the upcoming 4.4? TIA -- Pascal On Monday 10 September 2001 23:41, Scott Corey wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html > > Nathan Mace wrote: > >i posted a question on here about cvsuping stable or 4.4 release earlier > > today, can someone post the link that was given? it was in the freebsd > > handbook somewhere, but i acciendly deleted the email and i lost the > > link. it was a page that gave several examples that the users might be > > interested in cvsuping. thanks, sorry to be such a pain > > > >nathan > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 11 20: 8:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from msg-proxy2.mweb.co.za (msg-proxy2.mweb.co.za [196.2.46.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E580537B408 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from siberiyan.dyndns.org ([196.30.183.246]) by msg-proxy2.mweb.co.za (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0GJJ00K3I4Q8JU@msg-proxy2.mweb.co.za> for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 05:08:36 +0200 (SAST) Received: by siberiyan.dyndns.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 12 Sep 2001 05:08:44 +0200 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 05:08:44 +0200 From: Piet Delport Subject: Re: cvsuping stable source In-reply-to: <01091222294800.00382@hastur.rezo.net> To: pascal Cc: Scott Corey , Nathan Mace , freebsd newbies Message-id: <20010912050844.A486@athalon> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.21i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-RC X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.0as BETA (http://www.vim.org/) X-Crypto: gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.6 (http://www.gnupg.org/) X-GPG-Key-ID: 0x6B191427 X-GPG-Fingerprint: C7FF A540 2199 F7BF 1933 5640 CD15 0FF3 6B19 1427 References: <20010910171210.2cdde021.nmace85@yahoo.com> <3B9D3385.3060706@bsdprophet.org> <01091222294800.00382@hastur.rezo.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 at 22:29:48 +0200, pascal wrote: > On Monday 10 September 2001 23:41, Scott Corey wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html >=20 > I'm really starting with freebsd (2 weeks) and i thought you could > help me understand the following about cvsup, which i just installed > and updated my ports with. So far so good. >=20 > My question is about the sources and the manual is not very clear > about : what happens after the cvsup job? Do i have to recompile > something to switch to the new system or is it automatic? It's all explained in here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html In fact, you'll probably find this entire chapter useful: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html In short though, yes, you'll have to recompile something. (Everything, in fact :-) CVSup's role is limited to downloading the source tree that you'll end up compiling and installing. Generally speaking, the whole upgrade process works like this: 1. Download a local copy of the source tree you want to upgrade to. (This is what cvsup does.) 2. After optionally editing /etc/make.conf to suit your tastes, compile everything: # make buildworld # make KERNCONF=3DYOURCONF buildkernel 3. If all goes well, drop into single-user mode and install everything you've just built: # make installworld # make KERNCONF=3DYOURCONF installkernel 4. Reboot. :-) The links mentioned above explain the process in much greater detail. > Can I backtrack in case of trouble? Assuming the trouble isn't too severe (read: you can still boot and do some stuff), you can always re-cvsup to any older version of the source, and build everything again, though preferably you should have backups ready if you're worried about potential trouble. > I'm running 4.3 (release) right now, i'd prefer not having to > reinstall it :-) Will cvsup allow me to switch to the upcoming 4.4? If you cvsup to RELENG_4 (i.e. -STABLE) before building everything, you'll already be running what just about is 4.4 already. HTH, --=20 Piet Delport Today's subliminal thought is: --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE7ntG8zRUP82sZFCcRAiblAKCf6vd182nOiv7zZfg7ZqWZIWeqqQCfTnXx MWqkd+JBNDZ9dpwWmcUb/Og= =kejR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 11 21:21: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 913F737B40C for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.201) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2001 04:21:03 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:27:41 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: freebsd newbies , freebsd-stable Subject: burncd makes computer reboot! Message-Id: <20010912002741.4cac25b4.nmace85@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i just burned a CD from an ISO image, when it finished burning the CD burncd gave the following error: burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCCLOSEDISK): Inapproprate iotl for device i ran it with the followning command: burncd -f /dev/acd0c data data.iso fixate what am i doing wrong? i ran it as root, and then when i tried to mount the CDROM it rebooted the machine! it didn't even do it right, it said the machine wasn't cleanly unmounted! what gives? -- Nathan Mace _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 11 21:37:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from quarter.csl.sri.com (quarter.csl.sri.com [130.107.1.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977FA37B403; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from glob.csl.sri.com (glob.csl.sri.com [130.107.15.161]) by quarter.csl.sri.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8C4b6P09622; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:37:06 -0700 Received: from glob.csl.sri.com (hogsett@localhost) by glob.csl.sri.com (8.11.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f8C4b6415643; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:37:06 -0700 Message-Id: <200109120437.f8C4b6415643@glob.csl.sri.com> X-Authentication-Warning: glob.csl.sri.com: hogsett owned process doing -bs To: Nathan Mace Cc: freebsd newbies , freebsd-stable , hogsett@csl.sri.com Subject: Re: burncd makes computer reboot! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:27:41 EDT." <20010912002741.4cac25b4.nmace85@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:37:05 -0700 From: Mike Hogsett Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bad Memory ? > i just burned a CD from an ISO image, when it finished burning the CD burncd > gave the following error: > > burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCCLOSEDISK): Inapproprate iotl for device > > i ran it with the followning command: > > burncd -f /dev/acd0c data data.iso fixate > > what am i doing wrong? i ran it as root, and then when i tried to mount the > CDROM it rebooted the machine! it didn't even do it right, it said the machi > ne wasn't cleanly unmounted! what gives? > > -- > Nathan Mace > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 5:57:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fnord.ir.bbn.com (FNORD.IR.BBN.COM [192.1.100.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A73F337B409 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 05:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17826 invoked by uid 10853); 12 Sep 2001 12:57:34 -0000 To: Nathan Mace Cc: freebsd newbies , freebsd-stable Subject: Re: burncd makes computer reboot! References: <20010912002741.4cac25b4.nmace85@yahoo.com> From: Greg Troxel Date: 12 Sep 2001 08:57:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: Nathan Mace's message of "Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:27:41 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 44 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have seen behavior that may be similar, but not tracked it down well enough to file a report. burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCCLOSEDISK): Inapproprate iotl for device This may be a sign of burncd/kernel version skew - I think something changed between near 4.3. (I tried 4.3 burncd on 4.2+kame and lost; with everything from the same 'make world' it works fine.) Make sure you have burncd of the same date as kernel sources, compiled against the matching include files. This could explain why the cd did not get written properly (or fixated), but not the crash. I believe that the kernel code involving in cd9660 mounting may have a bug that is triggered by CDs that are apparently zero length (i.e. those for which read at 0 acts like EOF). I use the following shell function to test CDs to make sure they have data on them before mounting. ddcd () { dd if=/dev/racd0c of=/dev/null bs=32k } Looking at the sources, I see in isofs/cd9660/cd9660_vfsops.c, around line 327 of 1.74.2.5, bread is called on the device, and the return value checked for error. Then, bp->b_data is dereferenced without checking bp->b_count, bp->b_bufsize, or bp->b_resid. Perhaps adding if ( bp->b_count != iso_bsize ) { error = ENOSPC; /* XXX need better error report */ goto out; } might help. I didn't read kern/vfs_bio.c to see if an error would be returned, but I note that dd reports reading 0 bytes with no errors. If my guess is right, this problem exists multiple places in cd9660. But I suspect I'm off base, since I see similar code in ffs_vfsops.c. But there could be checks for partition size first, and then again, how often do people mount zero-length disks? Greg Troxel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 7:55:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from uce55.uchaswv.edu (uce55.uchaswv.edu [12.4.161.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC3D37B405; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cheech.uchaswv.edu (cheech.uchaswv.edu [172.16.0.7]) by uce55.uchaswv.edu (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA15441; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:02:06 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: freebsd-stable , freebsd newbies Subject: Re: burncd makes computer reboot! Message-Id: <20010912110206.06a7d187.mace_nathan@uchaswv.edu> In-Reply-To: <200109120437.f8C4b6415643@glob.csl.sri.com> References: <20010912002741.4cac25b4.nmace85@yahoo.com> <200109120437.f8C4b6415643@glob.csl.sri.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:37:05 -0700 Mike Hogsett wrote: > > > Bad Memory ? i while back i cvsup'd to the STABLE version of the 4x branch, i did a makeworld and compiled a new kernel, no problem. but i didn't remake the devices, i just left as they were from my 4.2 install. could this be the problem? i never fixed that because it seemed that everything was working and i was afraid i'd hose it up. do i just need to do "sh MAKEDEV all" in the dev directory? if not what do i need to do? and should i do that EVERYTIME i do a makeworld?? thanks nathan mace To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 8:18:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web.sitecontent.com (adsl-216-101-253-45.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.101.253.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF9737B40A; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by web.sitecontent.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id f8CFIni08722; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fallous@warped.com) Message-Id: <200109121518.f8CFIni08722@web.sitecontent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: fallous To: Nathan Mace , freebsd-stable , freebsd newbies Subject: Re: burncd makes computer reboot! Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:18:49 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20010912002741.4cac25b4.nmace85@yahoo.com> <200109120437.f8C4b6415643@glob.csl.sri.com> <20010912110206.06a7d187.mace_nathan@uchaswv.edu> In-Reply-To: <20010912110206.06a7d187.mace_nathan@uchaswv.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 12 September 2001 08:02 am, Nathan Mace wrote: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:37:05 -0700 > > Mike Hogsett wrote: > > Bad Memory ? > > i while back i cvsup'd to the STABLE version of the 4x branch, i did a > makeworld and compiled a new kernel, no problem. but i didn't remake the > devices, i just left as they were from my 4.2 install. could this be the > problem? i never fixed that because it seemed that everything was working > and i was afraid i'd hose it up. do i just need to do "sh MAKEDEV all" in > the dev directory? if not what do i need to do? and should i do that > EVERYTIME i do a makeworld?? thanks > > nathan mace > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message cvsup to the latest stable version. I ran into nasty problems with burning cds under a pre-August 4.3-stable that got resolved because of changes to the ide device that were committed in August. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 13:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EA337B40B for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA74418 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:17:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Introductory FreeBSD Book Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm posting updates, corrections, and files (so you don't have to type them up yourselves) to the web page below, for those of you who have a copy of this book. Thus far the files available are only the .bash_profile and .bashrc files listed in Chapter 6 (Shell Wars) of the book. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 14:33:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from northgate.starhub.net.sg (northgate.starhub.net.sg [203.117.1.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263BD37B405 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmalutac (d120063.ppp120.cyberway.com.sg [203.116.120.63]) by northgate.starhub.net.sg (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f8CLXCb13344 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:33:13 +0800 (SST) Message-ID: <001401c13bd2$cf3962a0$3f7874cb@fmalutac> From: "Lee Weng Seng" To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBS" Subject: SCSI U160 support in the future releases (I hope) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:34:42 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C13C15.C9FB3D70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C13C15.C9FB3D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've tried 4.1 with Adaptec 2940u2w SCSI card. I wish the latest or the = coming installations support SCSI Ultra 160. lee ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C13C15.C9FB3D70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've tried = 4.1 with Adaptec 2940u2w=20 SCSI card. I wish the latest or the coming installations support = SCSI Ultra=20 160.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C13C15.C9FB3D70-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 14:55:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web20806.mail.yahoo.com (web20806.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3269F37B405 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010912215537.98051.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.33.193.159] by web20806.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:55:37 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Help Victims Subject: Helping victims of terror To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everyone. As many of you are aware, people in Egypt and other countries celebrated the attacks on New York and Washington. Some of these countries receive billions of dollars in aid from the United States. I believe that people who celebrate the deaths of thousands of people do not deserve to receive any aid from those peoples' country. As a result, I've sent letters to representatives in the government, urging them to stop support to these countries. The money should be used to help the victims and their families, and to rebuild what has been destroyed. I'm including a copy of this letter below, and I invite and urge all of you to mail a copy of it to your representatives, or write your own. Please tell your family, friends, coworkers and neighbors. Let's make this as widespread as possible. *** Begin letter *** Dear Senators and Representatives, People in Egypt and other countries were filmed celebrating the September 11 attacks on America that destroyed thousands of lives. These countries receive billions of dollars in foreign aid from us--paid for by those whose lives were destroyed or altered forever by the attack. Their celebrating of these horrible acts show total disrespect and disregard for human lives, not to mention a complete lack of appreciation for the support that has continued to benefit them. I strongly urge you to stop financial aid to these countries. The money should instead go to victims and their families, not to those who celebrated their untimely deaths. And, of course, the money should be used to rebuild the destroyed properties and pay for the expensive investigations and other actions that must take place. The hard-earned money of those who died should NOT go to those who celebrated their deaths. Sincerely, [Your name here] [I suggest including your mailing address] *** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 15: 9:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from westhost33.westhost.net (westhost33.westhost.net [216.71.84.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D4937B407 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pulwtvilot (d225s244.hotbank.com [63.83.225.244]) by westhost33.westhost.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01057; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:09:46 -0500 From: "Tom Vilot" To: "'Help Victims'" Cc: Subject: RE: Helping victims of terror Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:09:05 -0600 Message-ID: <9BAAB192E5938F448EDF31E326507DD2B8D2C1@DENS600> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9BAAB192E5938F448EDF31E326507DD2B69776@DENS600> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know you are angry. I am too. And I appreciate your expressing this anger in a way consistent with the history and values of our country. However, I am not sure I am yet willing to hold an entire country or countries accountable for the disgusting expressions of what may well be a small minority. Most of the video that *I* saw which contained images of people celebrating was shot in the Gaza strip. It was not in Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, or Jordan. Even if some people in the above mentioned countries did indeed celebrate this horrible event, I would only be willing to endorse the ideas you have expressed so eloquently if I was confident that the celebrations represented the mainstream reaction. I can not state with any confidence that that is the case. Furthermore, American aid to Arab countries is one of the "honest broker" tools we have. It is one of the few pieces of credibility we express in the region that is not a knee-jerk pro-Israel construction. And in as much as I disagree with your words, I respect them and hold dear your right and your duty to express them and forward them to all people who may feel the same way. I respect them so much so, that I will forward this letter to people who I believe feel as you do, even if I will not be sending such a letter to my congressmen myself. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Help Victims Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:56 PM To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Helping victims of terror Hi everyone. As many of you are aware, people in Egypt and other countries celebrated the attacks on New York and Washington. Some of these countries receive billions of dollars in aid from the United States. I believe that people who celebrate the deaths of thousands of people do not deserve to receive any aid from those peoples' country. As a result, I've sent letters to representatives in the government, urging them to stop support to these countries. The money should be used to help the victims and their families, and to rebuild what has been destroyed. I'm including a copy of this letter below, and I invite and urge all of you to mail a copy of it to your representatives, or write your own. Please tell your family, friends, coworkers and neighbors. Let's make this as widespread as possible. *** Begin letter *** Dear Senators and Representatives, People in Egypt and other countries were filmed celebrating the September 11 attacks on America that destroyed thousands of lives. These countries receive billions of dollars in foreign aid from us--paid for by those whose lives were destroyed or altered forever by the attack. Their celebrating of these horrible acts show total disrespect and disregard for human lives, not to mention a complete lack of appreciation for the support that has continued to benefit them. I strongly urge you to stop financial aid to these countries. The money should instead go to victims and their families, not to those who celebrated their untimely deaths. And, of course, the money should be used to rebuild the destroyed properties and pay for the expensive investigations and other actions that must take place. The hard-earned money of those who died should NOT go to those who celebrated their deaths. Sincerely, [Your name here] [I suggest including your mailing address] *** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 15:55:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D8C37B40B for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aliorhan ([62.30.68.145]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Wed, 12 Sep 2001 23:55:59 +0100 From: "Stuart Duckworth" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, Help Victims Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 23:58:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Helping victims of terror Reply-To: ITServices@cableinet.co.uk In-reply-to: <20010912215537.98051.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-ID: <091815955220c91PCOW035M@blueyonder.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sir, I am a Briton, many of whose countrymen suffered yesterday in the attacks on New York, Washington and what other places? I understand your anger that some people should celebrate the atrocity that was visited on some of your and my countrymen. I should point out that the scenes of people celebrating were chosen by the news editors of the media concerned and that they may have had an agenda to pursue. I should also point out that subsequently on the t.v. media here in Britain Arabs have been interviewed who share your, my and, I hope all humane people's revulsion at the barbaric acts of yesterday. When you react as you have you put yourself in danger of becoming like the people who commited the cowardly deeds against the people of New York, Washington and all others who were targetted. Yours is a position of prejudice based upon limited and probably biassed information. I urge you to reconsider. Not all of the people of Egypt or Palestine share the jubilation of those who were featured on television. It would be as wrong to target the innocent of those countries as it was for the terrorists to target the innocent USA and other nationals who were killed and injured yesterday. To the subscribers to this List I apologise for posting this off topic item. I hope you will forgive me. I feel it was necessary in view of the enormity of the events of the last two days and the danger of slipping into ill advised actions. Stuart Duckworth On 12 Sep 01, at 14:55, Help Victims wrote: > Hi everyone. As many of you are aware, people in Egypt and > other countries celebrated the attacks on New York and > Washington. Some of these countries receive billions of > dollars in aid from the United States. I believe that > people who celebrate the deaths of thousands of people do > not deserve to receive any aid from those peoples' country. > As a result, I've sent letters to representatives in the > government, urging them to stop support to these countries. > The money should be used to help the victims and their > families, and to rebuild what has been destroyed. I'm > including a copy of this letter below, and I invite and > urge all of you to mail a copy of it to your representatives, > or write your own. Please tell your family, friends, > coworkers and neighbors. Let's make this as widespread as > possible. > > *** Begin letter *** > > Dear Senators and Representatives, > > People in Egypt and other countries were filmed celebrating > the September 11 attacks on America that destroyed thousands > of lives. > > These countries receive billions of dollars in foreign aid > from us--paid for by those whose lives were destroyed or > altered forever by the attack. Their celebrating of these > horrible acts show total disrespect and disregard for human > lives, not to mention a complete lack of appreciation for > the support that has continued to benefit them. > > I strongly urge you to stop financial aid to these countries. > > The money should instead go to victims and their families, > not to those who celebrated their untimely deaths. And, of > course, the money should be used to rebuild the destroyed > properties and pay for the expensive investigations and other > actions that must take place. > > The hard-earned money of those who died should NOT go to > those who celebrated their deaths. > > Sincerely, > > > [Your name here] > [I suggest including your mailing address] > > *** > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! > Messenger http://im.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 16: 8: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.toad.net (hermes.toad.net [162.33.130.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD8437B40B for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bears (jeremy@core18d166.dynamic-dialup.toad.net [162.33.188.166]) by hermes.toad.net (8.11.2/8.11.0) with SMTP id f8CN7r604902; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:07:54 -0400 Received: by bears (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:05:30 -0500 To: "David C. Snyder" Cc: " freebsd newbies" Subject: Re: CD -> ISO-9660 Image References: From: Jeremy Date: 13 Sep 2001 19:05:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87elpaskl2.fsf@yahoo.com> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "David C. Snyder" writes: > I already use cdrecord for all of my CD burning needs. I just need > a way to take a CD that already has data on it and extract that data as an > ISO-9660 image that I can store on my hard disk. I'm not 100% sure on this, but I believe that a program called "readcd" comes with cdrecord. Please forgive my ignorance, but I do know that this is the way it comes in the cdrecord package on Debian Linux. I'm new to FreeBSD as well, so I'm only guessing that this may be the case here. Hope I'm not too misleading here, Jeremy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 17:11:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from code.rebelbase.com (code.rebelbase.com [209.209.9.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D746537B407 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16125 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2001 00:11:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO che.rebelbase.com) (149.2.28.10) by code.rebelbase.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2001 00:11:28 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010912170534.03756448@mail.rebelbase.com> X-Sender: dis-list@mail.rebelbase.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:06:44 -0700 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Normen Nomesco Subject: Re: Helping victims of terror In-Reply-To: <20010912215537.98051.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org O.K. I never cross post non related subject but for the first time in a very very very long time BUT... Bush's Faustian Deal With the Taliban By Robert Scheer http://www.robertscheer.com/1_natcolumn/01_columns/052201.htm Published May 22, 2001 in the Los Angeles Times Enslave your girls and women, harbor anti-U.S. terrorists, destroy every vestige of civilization in your homeland, and the Bush administration will embrace you. All that matters is that you line up as an ally in the drug war, the only international cause that this nation still takes seriously. That's the message sent with the recent gift of $43 million to the Taliban rulers of Afghanistan, the most virulent anti-American violators of human rights in the world today. The gift, announced last Thursday by Secretary of State Colin Powell, in addition to other recent aid, makes the U.S. the main sponsor of the Taliban and rewards that "rogue regime" for declaring that opium growing is against the will of God. So, too, by the Taliban's estimation, are most human activities, but it's the ban on drugs that catches this administration's attention. Never mind that Osama bin Laden still operates the leading anti-American terror operation from his base in Afghanistan, from which, among other crimes, he launched two bloody attacks on American embassies in Africa in 1998. Sadly, the Bush administration is cozying up to the Taliban regime at a time when the United Nations, at U.S. insistence, imposes sanctions on Afghanistan because the Kabul government will not turn over Bin Laden. The war on drugs has become our own fanatics' obsession and easily trumps all other concerns. How else could we come to reward the Taliban, who has subjected the female half of the Afghan population to a continual reign of terror in a country once considered enlightened in its treatment of women? At no point in modern history have women and girls been more systematically abused than in Afghanistan where, in the name of madness masquerading as Islam, the government in Kabul obliterates their fundamental human rights. Women may not appear in public without being covered from head to toe with the oppressive shroud called the burkha , and they may not leave the house without being accompanied by a male family member. They've not been permitted to attend school or be treated by male doctors, yet women have been banned from practicing medicine or any profession for that matter. The lot of males is better if they blindly accept the laws of an extreme religious theocracy that prescribes strict rules governing all behavior, from a ban on shaving to what crops may be grown. It is this last power that has captured the enthusiasm of the Bush White House. The Taliban fanatics, economically and diplomatically isolated, are at the breaking point, and so, in return for a pittance of legitimacy and cash from the Bush administration, they have been willing to appear to reverse themselves on the growing of opium. That a totalitarian country can effectively crack down on its farmers is not surprising. But it is grotesque for a U.S. official, James P. Callahan, director of the State Department's Asian anti-drug program, to describe the Taliban's special methods in the language of representative democracy: "The Taliban used a system of consensus-building," Callahan said after a visit with the Taliban, adding that the Taliban justified the ban on drugs "in very religious terms." Of course, Callahan also reported, those who didn't obey the theocratic edict would be sent to prison. In a country where those who break minor rules are simply beaten on the spot by religious police and others are stoned to death, it's understandable that the government's "religious" argument might be compelling. Even if it means, as Callahan concedes, that most of the farmers who grew the poppies will now confront starvation. That's because the Afghan economy has been ruined by the religious extremism of the Taliban, making the attraction of opium as a previously tolerated quick cash crop overwhelming. For that reason, the opium ban will not last unless the U.S. is willing to pour far larger amounts of money into underwriting the Afghan economy. As the Drug Enforcement Administration's Steven Casteel admitted, "The bad side of the ban is that it's bringing their country--or certain regions of their country--to economic ruin." Nor did he hold out much hope for Afghan farmers growing other crops such as wheat, which require a vast infrastructure to supply water and fertilizer that no longer exists in that devastated country. There's little doubt that the Taliban will turn once again to the easily taxed cash crop of opium in order to stay in power. The Taliban may suddenly be the dream regime of our own war drug war zealots, but in the end this alliance will prove a costly failure. Our long sad history of signing up dictators in the war on drugs demonstrates the futility of building a foreign policy on a domestic obsession. Robert Scheer Is a Syndicated Columnist. Copyright =A9 2001 Robert Scheer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 17:21:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D1AA37B40D for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.224) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2001 00:21:20 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:28:02 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: freebsd newbies Subject: kernel compile help Message-Id: <20010912202802.5980f8cb.nmace85@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i just did a makeworld and compiled a new kernel...what do i need to do concerning the devices(/dev)??? do i need to do a "sh MAKEDEV all" or what? -- Nathan Mace _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 19:33:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nas2-149.micro-mania.net (nas2-149.micro-mania.net [204.214.90.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E121037B412 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zwade@localhost) by nas2-149.micro-mania.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f8D2VO600394; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:31:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from zwade) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:31:24 -0600 (MDT) From: User ZwadeZWade Message-Id: <200109130231.f8D2VO600394@nas2-149.micro-mania.net> To: fight_terrorism@yahoo.com, tom@vilot.com Subject: RE: Helping victims of terror Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9BAAB192E5938F448EDF31E326507DD2B8D2C1@DENS600> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There is only one sure way. As we (101st DIV ABN) used to say in '71-'72..... "Kill 'em all; let God sort 'em out." Any measured response is wimpy at best, traitorous at worst. I'd be careful with leftist comments at this time. I'd also suggest that you store some drinking water around the house....and stock up on dried food. All hell is about to break loose. Regards, Z. Wade Hampton Missoula, MT reply to: zwade@micro-mania.net not what shows up in the "From:" line. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 19:55:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [208.128.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F03537B401 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdprophet.org (orange35.theshop.net [206.30.142.228]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8D2sTe62422; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:54:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Scott@bsdprophet.org) Message-ID: <3BA02015.A22F313@bsdprophet.org> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:55:17 -0500 From: Scott Corey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User ZwadeZWade Cc: fight_terrorism@yahoo.com, tom@vilot.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Helping victims of terror References: <200109130231.f8D2VO600394@nas2-149.micro-mania.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Take it off list User ZwadeZWade wrote: > > There is only one sure way. > As we (101st DIV ABN) used to say in '71-'72..... > "Kill 'em all; let God sort 'em out." > > Any measured response is wimpy at best, traitorous at worst. > > I'd be careful with leftist comments at this time. > I'd also suggest that you store some drinking water around the > house....and stock up on dried food. > All hell is about to break loose. > > Regards, > Z. Wade Hampton > Missoula, MT > > reply to: zwade@micro-mania.net > not what shows up in the "From:" line. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 20: 4:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.camelot.de (mailout.camelot.de [217.19.160.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D597937B408 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalle (dsl-sa0201.camelot.de [217.19.175.3]) by mail.camelot.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f8D34T841622; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:04:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <00d401c13c00$c867d8c0$329ba8c0@kalle> From: "Kalle Schmidt" To: , "Normen Nomesco" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010912170534.03756448@mail.rebelbase.com> Subject: Re: just propaganda (was: Helping victims of terror) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:04:19 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 21:30: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71C537B412 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA75919; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:26:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Nathan Mace Cc: freebsd newbies Subject: Re: kernel compile help In-Reply-To: <20010912202802.5980f8cb.nmace85@yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Nathan Mace wrote: > i just did a makeworld and compiled a new kernel...what do i need to do concerning the devices(/dev)??? > > do i need to do a "sh MAKEDEV all" or what? > > -- > Nathan Mace > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > After the new base system is installed (make world, or make buildworld && make installworld) and the kernel is built and installed you can run mergemaster to merge /usr/src/etc with /etc; the latest versions offer to run sh /dev/MAKEDEV all for you. Otherwise you can run it yourself. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 21:49:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from koza.acecape.com (koza2.acecape.com [66.9.36.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6CD37B401 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from networld (p64-69.acedsl.com [66.114.64.69]) by koza.acecape.com (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f8D4nPF01504 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000c01c13c0f$d111df70$0200a8c0@networld> From: "Russell A. 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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C13BEE.49CAB080-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 12 22:37:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web20004.mail.yahoo.com (web20004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.225.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F78C37B418 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010913053720.97367.qmail@web20004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.4.161.200] by web20004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:37:20 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:37:20 -0700 (PDT) From: nathan mace Subject: help! i ran mergemaster and messed up /etc! To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i just ran mergemaster after i compiled a new kernel and did a makeworld, then i rebooted. now when freebsd boots up, it checks the hardware and stuff then when it starts the local services it gets hung in and endless loop concerning getty. luckily i made a backup of etc before i started, but how can i get logged in to install the backup? i tried single user mode by booting with -s but it just returns to the boot prompt...what do i do? nathan __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 13 0:41:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E25AA37B412 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO RAMBUS) (216.179.225.200) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2001 07:41:10 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <000701c13c27$cc4a5860$c8e1b3d8@liquidground.com> Reply-To: "DrTebi" From: "DrTebi" To: Subject: How to upgrade a port or program? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:43:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, question 1) I am unclear of how the port collection works in terms of updating. I have a 4.2 FreeBSD server running and installed the openssh package on first install. Now I would like to update that Openssh (which is 2.2.0) to the current available Openssh (2.9.3). I downloaded the newest port, saved it in /usr/src and did pkg_add Openssh2.9_3.tgz it complained with /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libcrypto.so.2" not found I suspect the crypto package from Openssl needs updating. How do I continue now? Just do a pkg_add for the newest OpenSSL package? Isn't the port supposed to "know" the dependencies? question 2) I also frequently update my apache web server. I downloaded the newest source code, did configure and gmake, and then I just replaced the new compiled httpd with my old one. It works fine, but I would like to know if what I am doing is correct, or if there could be any problems doing it this way? Is it enough to just replace a new compiled binary with an old one? question 3) I am running a couple servers, all running Pentium II or III, on different MBs and Harddrives etc. Now let's say I compiled the new httpd on one machine, is it possible to simply use this file on one of the other servers? Kind of like using my own precompiled binary on different machines running the same FreeBSD? Thanks for any help! DrTebi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 13 0:50:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.ms-agentur.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2757A37B408; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.ms-agentur.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id JAA15208; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:59:38 +0200 Message-ID: <3BA0653E.8000101@i-clue.de> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:50:22 +0200 From: Christoph Sold User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; de-AT; rv:0.9.3+) Gecko/20010905 X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nathan mace Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help! i ran mergemaster and messed up /etc! References: <20010913053720.97367.qmail@web20004.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org nathan mace wrote: >i just ran mergemaster after i compiled a new kernel >and did a makeworld, then i rebooted. now when >freebsd boots up, it checks the hardware and stuff >then when it starts the local services it gets hung in >and endless loop concerning getty. > >luckily i made a backup of etc before i started, but >how can i get logged in to install the backup? i >tried single user mode by booting with -s but it just >returns to the boot prompt...what do i do? > Boot off fixit floppies, or, if you got them fixit CD-ROM. mount your partitions and off you go. If you got no boot media at hand, download a fixit floppy image or any recent FreeBSD ISO. HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 13 1:50:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [208.128.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678AA37B40C; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 01:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdprophet.org (peach40.theshop.net [206.30.143.105]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8D8nIe80672; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 03:49:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Scott@bsdprophet.org) Message-ID: <3BA0733A.3400DAE5@bsdprophet.org> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 03:50:02 -0500 From: Scott Corey Organization: Open Source Education Foundation www.osef.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: [Fwd: How to upgrade a port or program?] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is more relevant to the questions mailing list, so I forwarded it for you. DrTebi wrote: > > Hi, > question 1) > I am unclear of how the port collection works in terms of updating. I have a > 4.2 FreeBSD server running and installed the openssh package on first > install. Now I would like to update that Openssh (which is 2.2.0) to the > current available Openssh (2.9.3). I downloaded the newest port, saved it in > /usr/src and did > pkg_add Openssh2.9_3.tgz > it complained with > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libcrypto.so.2" not found > I suspect the crypto package from Openssl needs updating. How do I continue > now? Just do a pkg_add for the newest OpenSSL package? Isn't the port > supposed to "know" the dependencies? > > question 2) > I also frequently update my apache web server. I downloaded the newest > source code, did configure and gmake, and then I just replaced the new > compiled httpd with my old one. It works fine, but I would like to know if > what I am doing is correct, or if there could be any problems doing it this > way? Is it enough to just replace a new compiled binary with an old one? > > question 3) > I am running a couple servers, all running Pentium II or III, on different > MBs and Harddrives etc. Now let's say I compiled the new httpd on one > machine, is it possible to simply use this file on one of the other servers? > Kind of like using my own precompiled binary on different machines running > the same FreeBSD? > > Thanks for any help! > DrTebi > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 13 7:26:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web20010.mail.yahoo.com (web20010.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.225.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EBCB37B40A for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010913142650.46001.qmail@web20010.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.4.161.239] by web20010.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:26:50 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:26:50 -0700 (PDT) From: nathan mace Subject: Re: help! i ran mergemaster and messed up /etc! To: Nuno Teixeira , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbie@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <00d801c13c4c$14e1adc0$0a00a8c0@qnuno> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Nuno Teixeira wrote: > Hi, > > You should login in single user mode and then: i just tried logging in for single user, it won't boot single user, i tried the -s flag when it first starts loading, hit any key to get the boot: prompt and i type -s and it just goes ahead and boots single user now what? nathan __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 13 8:45:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cell-works.com (cell-works.com [64.220.255.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5021B37B40F for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (john@localhost) by cell-works.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08302 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:59:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from john@cell-works.com) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:59:31 -0400 (EDT) From: John Daniel To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bright spot Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I finally got my new( recently built freebsd box to connect to comcast @home) i used the instruction at www.freebsddiary.org/athome but it still didn't work. there were 2 reasons why the first was ipfw was configured with a default deny all ip so I would get a access denied message. i fixed that by adding a new rule for testing purposes only to allow all ip ( I don't intend to leave that rule but it was a quick fix for testing purposes) that got rid of the access denied message but pings were still disappearing no reply. finally I figured I would look at the rc files before running to look for help. rc.conf in /etc was fine but there was a line in the in the default rc.conf file in the that said the natd interface( the public interface) was my intel card not my 3com card. when i added a corrected line to /etc/rc.conf ping worked.YIPPEE. Now all i have to do is upgrade to stable rebuild my kernel add firewall rules and get natd running. again Yippee. PAX ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't want no trouble , don't start no trouble." -Some actor in some sitcom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 13 11:10:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tepid.osl.fast.no (tepid.osl.fast.no [213.188.9.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602B037B410; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raw.grenland.fast.no.fast.no (fw-oslo.fast.no [213.188.9.129]) by tepid.osl.fast.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA80633; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:09:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Raymond.Wiker@fast.no) From: Raymond Wiker MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15264.63082.279430.863669@raw.grenland.fast.no> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:09:46 +0200 To: nathan mace Cc: Nuno Teixeira , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbie@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help! i ran mergemaster and messed up /etc! In-Reply-To: <20010913142650.46001.qmail@web20010.mail.yahoo.com> References: <00d801c13c4c$14e1adc0$0a00a8c0@qnuno> <20010913142650.46001.qmail@web20010.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org nathan mace writes: > > --- Nuno Teixeira > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > You should login in single user mode and then: > > i just tried logging in for single user, it won't boot > single user, i tried the -s flag when it first starts > loading, hit any key to get the boot: prompt and i > type -s and it just goes ahead and boots single user Type "boot -s". Wait for the machine to finish booting. It should ask you about the path to your preferred shell. Then type fsck -p mount -u / mount -a -t ufs At this point, the machine should be running single-user with all local (ufs) filesystems mounted. //Raymond. -- Raymond Wiker Raymond.Wiker@fast.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 13 13: 2:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13607.mail.yahoo.com (web13607.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C08F37B40B for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010913200221.70400.qmail@web13607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.16.193.228] by web13607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:02:21 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:02:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Bzdik BSD Subject: RE: Helping victims of terror To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9BAAB192E5938F448EDF31E326507DD2B8D2C1@DENS600> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Dear Senators and Representatives, > > People in Egypt and other countries were filmed celebrating > the September 11 attacks on America that destroyed thousands > of lives. And there were no celebrations in Belgrade. It does look like the war of civilizations, and undermines our criminal stupidity in picking enemies and friends. You can add that to your letter to the Senator. Egypt is considered to be a 'moderate' one. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 13 17:45:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web20001.mail.yahoo.com (web20001.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.225.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D619F37B406 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010914004534.63794.qmail@web20001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.4.161.217] by web20001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:45:34 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:45:34 -0700 (PDT) From: nathan mace Subject: Re: help! i ran mergemaster and messed up /etc! To: Raymond Wiker Cc: Nuno Teixeira , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbie@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <15264.63082.279430.863669@raw.grenland.fast.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org when i type "boot -s" it says "NO Boot" and returns to the bootloader, when i try anything else(caps) it beeps at me and returns to the bootloader now what? nathan __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 13 17:54:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web20001.mail.yahoo.com (web20001.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.225.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A38A37B409 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010914005425.65949.qmail@web20001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.4.161.217] by web20001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:54:25 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:54:25 -0700 (PDT) From: nathan mace Subject: Re: help! i ran mergemaster and messed up /etc! part 2! To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbie@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010914004534.63794.qmail@web20001.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i've tried and tried the boot -s to boot into single user mode. is a possiblity that i hosed the conf file in etc that controls the boot loader? if so would that allow it to still boot to mutiuser but not single user? just a thought any ideas on what to do since single user mode doesn't work? i even tried booting linux off another drive to be able to mount the partition, but that doesn't work either...what can i do? nathan __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 13 20:40:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sbk-gw.sibnet.ru (sbk-gw.sibnet.ru [217.70.96.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E51837B40B; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (stranger@localhost) by sbk-gw.sibnet.ru (8.11.1/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8E3jSY08130; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:45:31 +0700 (NOVST) (envelope-from stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:45:28 +0700 (NOVST) From: "Maxim M. Kazachek" X-X-Sender: To: nathan mace Cc: Raymond Wiker , Nuno Teixeira , , , Subject: Re: help! i ran mergemaster and messed up /etc! In-Reply-To: <20010914004534.63794.qmail@web20001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010914104136.S5553-100000@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Maybe you pressed key too early. Seems like that you're passed to bootloader prompt that asks you about which kernel you're want to load. Perhaps you need to type kernel -s... Sincerely, Maxim M. Kazachek mailto:stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru mailto:stranger@fpm.ami.nstu.ru On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, nathan mace wrote: >when i type "boot -s" it says "NO Boot" and returns to >the bootloader, when i try anything else(caps) it >beeps at me and returns to the bootloader > >now what? > >nathan > >__________________________________________________ >Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? >Donate cash, emergency relief information >http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 14 0:41:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.sely.com (mail2.sely.com [202.159.6.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03B9237B408 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 35153 invoked by uid 1009); 14 Sep 2001 07:40:13 -0000 Received: from mail.sely.com (202.159.6.26) by mail2.sely.com with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 07:40:13 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:37:44 +0700 (JAVT) From: Abdullah Koro X-X-Sender: To: Bzdik BSD Cc: Subject: RE: Helping victims of terror In-Reply-To: <20010913200221.70400.qmail@web13607.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010914153520.S4731-100000@mail.sely.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear guys.. IMHO, we need to back to the FreeBSD Topic. Don't discuss whatever about the OOT, please :-) Any comment from the 'Real' moderator? -- Faculty of Computer Science University of Indonesia http://debian.usindo.com/~abdul301 On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Bzdik BSD wrote: > > > Dear Senators and Representatives, > > > > People in Egypt and other countries were filmed celebrating > > the September 11 attacks on America that destroyed thousands > > of lives. > > And there were no celebrations in Belgrade. It does look like the war > of civilizations, and undermines our criminal stupidity in picking > enemies and friends. You can add that to your letter to the Senator. > Egypt is considered to be a 'moderate' one. > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 14 0:44:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.sely.com (mail2.sely.com [202.159.6.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CCE937B405 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 35189 invoked by uid 1009); 14 Sep 2001 07:43:29 -0000 Received: from mail.sely.com (202.159.6.26) by mail2.sely.com with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 07:43:29 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:41:01 +0700 (JAVT) From: Abdullah Koro X-X-Sender: To: nathan mace Cc: Raymond Wiker , Nuno Teixeira , Subject: Re: help! i ran mergemaster and messed up /etc! In-Reply-To: <20010914004534.63794.qmail@web20001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010914153906.P4731-100000@mail.sely.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Nathan.. It looks like your freebsd partition damaged. CMIIW :-) regards, koro -- Faculty of Computer Science University of Indonesia http://debian.usindo.com/~abdul301 On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, nathan mace wrote: > when i type "boot -s" it says "NO Boot" and returns to > the bootloader, when i try anything else(caps) it > beeps at me and returns to the bootloader > > now what? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 14 11:17:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail50.fg.online.no (mail50-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1077A37B411 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tocom (ti41a13-0166.dialup.online.no [130.67.122.166]) by mail50.fg.online.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA10449 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:17:04 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <000c01c13d96$a60c57a0$a67a4382@tocom> From: "Lal Manavado" To: Subject: Are there any blind users of freebsd? Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:29:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C13D5B.F5E18380" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C13D5B.F5E18380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo there! I am a blind newbie vis a vis freebsd. Wonder if there are any others = like me with whom I'd like to talk about our promblems in using the os. Do please get in touch. Thanks very much. Lal. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C13D5B.F5E18380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hallo there!
 
I am a blind newbie vis a vis freebsd. Wonder if there are any = others like=20 me with whom I'd like to  talk about our promblems in using the = os.
 
Do please get in touch.
 
Thanks very much.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C13D5B.F5E18380-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 14 19:10:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15B437B405 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8F2A0C54673 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:10:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109150210.f8F2A0C54673@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 9:53:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from eui2smtp.euskaltel.es (eui2smtp.euskaltel.es [212.55.8.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A64037B407 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eu148-227.clientes.euskaltel.es ([212.142.148.227]) by eui2smtp.euskaltel.es (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJPQZH02.T2S for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 18:54:53 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: KEPA To: newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:01:08 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01091519004507.01165@eu148-227.clientes.euskaltel.es> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Laptops Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm thinking on buying a laptop. I know clone laptops origine installation problems with Linux ordinary. Dell. IBM and Sony are recomended. Is it the same in FreeBSD? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 10:13:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from khan.peak.org (khan.peak.org [198.88.144.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729B337B40B for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from peak.org (nobody@mccoy.peak.org [206.163.129.2]) by khan.peak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA24975; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:13:04 -0700 Received: from 24.136.36.40 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luomat) by emh.peak.org with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 01:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2342.24.136.36.40.1000628587.squirrel@emh.peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 01:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Laptops From: "Timothy J. Luoma" To: keparena@euskalnet.net In-Reply-To: <01091519004507.01165@eu148-227.clientes.euskaltel.es> References: <01091519004507.01165@eu148-227.clientes.euskaltel.es> Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: luomat@peak.org X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm thinking on buying a laptop. Considered an iBook or PowerBook? Mac OSX is a tempting option for those wanting Unix, and it has a FreeBSD-ish underpinning. > I know clone laptops origine installation problems with Linux ordinary. > Dell. IBM and Sony are recomended. > Is it the same in FreeBSD? I believe that you will find more support for more "mainstream" laptops for things like sound and video cards. You'd probably have better luck asking in -mobile or -questions however TjL To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 10:24:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fibertel.com.ar (mta3.fibertel.com.ar [24.232.0.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAEC937B407 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pamilya (24.232.192.75) by mail.fibertel.com.ar (5.5.034) id 3B9D67E40010A1D4 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:22:29 -0300 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; charset="iso-8859-1"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_9ASP9E6EELTJ3TN8OQVA" From: Noel V.Balansag Reply-To: pongkee@fibertel.com.ar To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: printer not working Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:22:57 -0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01091514225700.00355@pamilya> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_9ASP9E6EELTJ3TN8OQVA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello. Can anybody please help me. I've been trying to make my printer run for a month now, and I followed instructions on the freebsd handbook as well. But I haven't got past the command 'lptest'. When I use this command, there is no response from the printer. I can use this printer in WinNT4, so I don't think there is any problem with the parallel port. By the way, my printer is a Canon BJC2100. Attached are some of the files that I think are important. 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mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 10:25:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [208.128.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4624037B40A for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdprophet.org (orange35.theshop.net [206.30.142.228]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8FHOot01401; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 12:24:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Scott@bsdprophet.org) Message-ID: <3BA38F19.FAD78F1F@bsdprophet.org> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 12:25:45 -0500 From: Scott Corey Organization: Open Source Education Foundation osef.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KEPA Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Laptops References: <01091519004507.01165@eu148-227.clientes.euskaltel.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org One of the best places for hardware information is the HARDWARE.TXT, in the top-level directory of a CDROM or FTP distribution or in sysinstall's documentation menu. It lists, for a given architecture, what hardware devices are known to be supported by each release of FreeBSD. Here is a link to FreeBSD 4.4 RC5 HARDWARE.TXT ftp://ftp7.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RC5/HARDWARE.TXT Scott KEPA wrote: > > I'm thinking on buying a laptop. > I know clone laptops origine installation problems with Linux ordinary. > Dell. IBM and Sony are recomended. > Is it the same in FreeBSD? > > Thanks > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 10:27:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4DE37B407 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f8FHQv613213; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:26:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Subject: RE: printer not working Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:26:56 -0700 Message-ID: <002f01c13e0b$9e8d3060$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <01091514225700.00355@pamilya> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have you read the following web page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/index.html Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Noel V.Balansag >Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:23 AM >To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: printer not working > > >Hello. > >Can anybody please help me. I've been trying to make my printer run for a >month now, and I followed instructions on the freebsd handbook as >well. But I >haven't got past the command 'lptest'. When I use this command, there is no >response from the printer. > >I can use this printer in WinNT4, so I don't think there is any problem with >the parallel port. By the way, my printer is a Canon BJC2100. > >Attached are some of the files that I think are important. In case >some files >are still needed, please let me know. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 10:36:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [208.128.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DD937B401 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdprophet.org (orange35.theshop.net [206.30.142.228]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8FHZlt08420; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 12:35:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Scott@bsdprophet.org) Message-ID: <3BA391A9.1CD19E0B@bsdprophet.org> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 12:36:41 -0500 From: Scott Corey Organization: Open Source Education Foundation osef.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pongkee@fibertel.com.ar Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: printer not working References: <01091514225700.00355@pamilya> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So your printer is found i.e. ppbus0: PRINTER BJL,BJRaster,BSCC,TXT01 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Have you tried the port apsfilter, it is a great automatic printer setup. It does support Cannon printers. Download it and give a try. Scott "Noel V.Balansag" wrote: > > Hello. > > Can anybody please help me. I've been trying to make my printer run for a > month now, and I followed instructions on the freebsd handbook as well. But I > haven't got past the command 'lptest'. When I use this command, there is no > response from the printer. > > I can use this printer in WinNT4, so I don't think there is any problem with > the parallel port. By the way, my printer is a Canon BJC2100. > > Attached are some of the files that I think are important. In case some files > are still needed, please let me know. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: dmesg > dmesg Type: text/x-c > Encoding: base64 > Description: dmesg output > > Name: kernel > kernel Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: base64 > Description: kernel config > > Name: unamefile > unamefile Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: base64 > Description: uname output To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 11: 7:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DEB2137B40B for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.225) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2001 18:07:41 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:14:41 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: freebsd newbies Subject: finally fixed my /etc directory Message-Id: <20010915141441.4acab423.nmace85@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i *FINALLY* got /etc fixed, it involved installing and old copy of freebsd 4.2 over the existing copy so that it would boot, backing up my stuff, blowing it all away again and installing from cd. i also found that typing /kernel boots my machine into single user mode, boot -s!!! what causes that? nathan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 11:11: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp010.mail.yahoo.com (smtp010.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEB7D37B40B for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.225) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2001 18:10:59 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:18:00 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: freebsd newbies Subject: make buildworld with -j4 option Message-Id: <20010915141800.719c44b5.nmace85@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org according to the handbook making buildworld with -j4 will make it go faster...even on single cpu machines. but according to some messages i've read on this mailing list, that it not true, and even slows it down. so what should i use to get the fastest compile time? i have pentium2-300 and 176 megs of ram nathan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 11:16:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBAB237B40A for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.225) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2001 18:16:55 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:23:56 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: Annelise Anderson , freebsd newbies Subject: Re: kernel compile help Message-Id: <20010915142356.4d20e1c1.nmace85@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20010912202802.5980f8cb.nmace85@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > After the new base system is installed (make world, or make > buildworld && make installworld) and the kernel is built and > installed you can run mergemaster to merge /usr/src/etc with > /etc; the latest versions offer to run sh /dev/MAKEDEV all > for you. Otherwise you can run it yourself. > > Annelise do i HAVE to run mergemaster? what happens if i don't? the reason i ask is that when i ran it it so totally messed up the /etc partition that the OS wouldn't boot, luckily i had backups of my data and ended up deleting the partition and starting over from scratch. what went wrong? nathan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 11:21:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [208.128.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1954637B406 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdprophet.org (orange35.theshop.net [206.30.142.228]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8FIL2t40031; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:21:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Scott@bsdprophet.org) Message-ID: <3BA39C45.F135E9D4@bsdprophet.org> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:21:57 -0500 From: Scott Corey Organization: Open Source Education Foundation osef.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nathan Mace Cc: freebsd newbies Subject: Re: make buildworld with -j4 option References: <20010915141800.719c44b5.nmace85@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I always use -j4 option when building. I have had no adverse reactions or bad builds because of the -j option. Give it a try, if is doesn't work, then just go back to not using it. All it can do is help speed up the process. I also never do a "make -j4 world". I use the two step process of "buildworld" then "installworld". I would try both ways and see which is faster. Scott Nathan Mace wrote: > > according to the handbook making buildworld with -j4 will make it go faster...even on single cpu machines. but according to some messages i've read on this mailing list, that it not true, and even slows it down. so what should i use to get the fastest compile time? i have pentium2-300 and 176 megs of ram > > nathan > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 11:26:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AB4537B40E for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.225) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2001 18:26:24 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:33:25 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: Scott Corey , freebsd newbies Subject: Re: make buildworld with -j4 option Message-Id: <20010915143325.2cd80e03.nmace85@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <3BA39C45.F135E9D4@bsdprophet.org> References: <20010915141800.719c44b5.nmace85@yahoo.com> <3BA39C45.F135E9D4@bsdprophet.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org can i use the -j4 option when installing from ports as well? Nathan On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:21:57 -0500 Scott Corey wrote: > I always use -j4 option when building. I have had no adverse reactions > or bad builds because of the -j option. Give it a try, if is doesn't > work, then just go back to not using it. All it can do is help speed up > the process. > > I also never do a "make -j4 world". I use the two step process of > "buildworld" then "installworld". > > I would try both ways and see which is faster. > > Scott > > Nathan Mace wrote: > > > > according to the handbook making buildworld with -j4 will make it go faster...even on single cpu machines. but according to some messages i've read on this mailing list, that it not true, and even slows it down. so what should i use to get the fastest compile time? i have pentium2-300 and 176 megs of ram > > > > nathan > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 12:52:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp010.mail.yahoo.com (smtp010.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67E9437B409 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 12:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.225) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2001 19:52:23 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:59:23 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: freebsd newbies Subject: /etc/defaults/make.conf questions Message-Id: <20010915155923.63fa1563.nmace85@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org in my /etc/defaults/make.conf there is the following line #NO_MAKEDEV=true does that mean that by default make installworld runs MAKDEV? also there is a line about compiling sendmail or not. my machine DOES NOT need to be running any mail server software, is it safe not to compile it? or does some other stuff depend on it?? also is it like the rc.local files? can i make a "/etc/make.conf" that overrides the one in defaults? thanks nathan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 15:26:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5907237B408 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b106.otenet.gr [195.167.121.234]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8FMPcd26828; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 01:25:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8FMPCr15539; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 01:25:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 01:25:11 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Nathan Mace Cc: freebsd newbies Subject: Re: /etc/defaults/make.conf questions Message-ID: <20010916012511.A14930@hades.hell.gr> References: <20010915155923.63fa1563.nmace85@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010915155923.63fa1563.nmace85@yahoo.com>; from nmace85@yahoo.com on Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:59:23PM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3A 75 52 EB F1 58 56 0D - C5 B8 21 B6 1B 5E 4A C2 X-URL: http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nathan Mace wrote: > > also there is a line about compiling sendmail or not. my machine DOES NOT > need to be running any mail server software, is it safe not to compile it? > or does some other stuff depend on it?? No, it's not dangerous in any sense to use make.conf to disable those parts of the base system that you will not be using. In fact it's a ``great idea''. > also is it like the rc.local files? > can i make a "/etc/make.conf" that overrides the one in defaults? thanks Questions like this one will be (hopefully) answered in more detail, if you skim through the manpage: % make make.conf BTW, questions like these are better sent to -questions. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 17:46: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from koza.acecape.com (koza2.acecape.com [66.9.36.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681B737B40A for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 17:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from networld (p64-69.acedsl.com [66.114.64.69]) by koza.acecape.com (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f8G0k5f13918 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701c13e49$4e746470$0200a8c0@networld> From: "Russell A. Khurshudian" To: Subject: Swap Partitions Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:48:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org May someone please explain to me the functions of the swap partition and why the systems requires it. Another thing, i've heard that it is a good idea to make your swap partition twice the amount of memory your system has; What is the relationship between the swap partition and your system's memory resources? Thank you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 18:12:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from corten2.billschoolcraft.com (adsl-63-193-247-201.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.247.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B219237B40A for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 18:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corten8.billschoolcraft.com ([192.168.7.8]) by corten2.billschoolcraft.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 13ZzUJ-0007no-00; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:41:23 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:37:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-X-Sender: To: "Timothy J. Luoma" Cc: , Subject: Re: Laptops In-Reply-To: <2342.24.136.36.40.1000628587.squirrel@emh.peak.org> Message-ID: System-ID: SunOS 5.8 i86pc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Sun, 16 Sep 2001 it looks like Timothy J. Luoma composed: luomat-> luomat->> I'm thinking on buying a laptop. luomat-> I purchased the (fairly new) Toshiba-1715 and it came with a 6-gig drive. It came preloaded with ME but I used "fips" to resize that and installed Linux and FreeBSD with no issues. It's now a triple-boot laptop. I purchased a new 20 gig drive but this particular laptop needs to be sent to Toshiba, not a dealer, for the damm thing to be opened. It's too new for me to start twisting, prying etc to put a larger drive in. -- Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 San Francisco, CA 94121 http://ForwardSlashUnix.com "UNIX, A Way of Life." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 18:42:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from corten2.billschoolcraft.com (adsl-63-193-247-201.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.247.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B3037B407 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 18:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corten8.billschoolcraft.com ([192.168.7.8]) by corten2.billschoolcraft.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 13Zzcr-0007ns-00 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:50:13 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:46:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: printer not working In-Reply-To: <3BA391A9.1CD19E0B@bsdprophet.org> Message-ID: System-ID: SunOS 5.8 i86pc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Sat, 15 Sep 2001 it looks like Scott Corey composed: Scott->So your printer is found i.e. Scott-> Scott->ppbus0: PRINTER BJL,BJRaster,BSCC,TXT01 Scott->lpt0: on ppbus0 Scott->lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Scott-> Scott->Have you tried the port apsfilter, it is a great automatic printer Scott->setup. It does support Cannon printers. Download it and give a try. Scott-> Now I just got through getting my Epson-777 Stylus Color inkjet working on the second try "ON" what must be the most stubborn OS when it comes to this sort of stuff, and that's Solaris-8 (Intel) and it prints in color right from Netscape. I used CUPS and used the http://localhost:631/printers/ option and the only line I had to change was; [root@SunOS 5.8 ~]-> less /etc/cups/printers.conf # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.1.10 # Written by cupsd on Sun Sep 09 00:49:02 2001 Info epson777 Location /dev/lp1 DeviceURI /dev/lp1 <---------- "old line" State Idle Accepting Yes JobSheets none none to add the new line DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp1 <-------- "new line" I restarted cups and BINGO. The browser based setup was just a very pleasant and welcomed suprise. -- Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 San Francisco, CA 94121 http://ForwardSlashUnix.com "UNIX, A Way of Life." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 20:29:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8E9D37B408 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO pmh00a) (150.252.107.62) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 03:29:32 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <000701c13e5f$f06d6180$3e6bfc96@acu.edu> From: "FreeBSD Mail List" To: References: <000701c13e49$4e746470$0200a8c0@networld> Subject: Re: Swap Partitions Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 22:30:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The swap partition is similar to Window's virtual memory. Basically, when your ram fills up or starts to get full, the os moves some of that information from the ram to the swap partition. This allows you to have more processes running at once. They also run more quickly. I would agree with the standard double ram size for the swap partition. This is how I understand the swap partition. If I am wrong, please someone correct me. Sincerely, Preston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell A. Khurshudian" To: Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:48 pm Subject: Swap Partitions > May someone please explain to me the functions of the swap partition and why > the systems requires it. Another thing, i've heard that it is a good idea to > make your swap partition twice the amount of memory your system has; What is > the relationship between the swap partition and your system's memory > resources? Thank you. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 20:33: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0428537B401 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO pmh00a) (150.252.107.62) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 03:32:58 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <001201c13e60$6b5b1b80$3e6bfc96@acu.edu> From: "FreeBSD Mail List" To: Subject: A good C book Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 22:33:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C13E36.8232ADC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C13E36.8232ADC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I am starting to learn and use C. What is a good book for the C = language? I understand the basics of programming, I really just need a = good book that shows the syntax. I would preferably like one with a = really good index and or appendices so if I need to say, for example, = write an array, I can just go look up the syntax. Thanks for your help. Sincerely, Preston freebsdmaillist@yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C13E36.8232ADC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,  I am starting to learn and = use=20 C.  What is a good book for the C language?  I understand the = basics=20 of programming, I really just need a good book that shows the = syntax.  I=20 would preferably like one with a really good index and or appendices so = if I=20 need to say, for example, write an array, I can just go look up the=20 syntax.  Thanks for your help.
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------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C13E36.8232ADC0-- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 21:20: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from micro-mania.net (micro1.micro-mania.net [204.214.90.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F2437B409 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 21:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nas2-140.micro-mania.net [204.214.90.140] by micro-mania.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AA1410A009C; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 22:27:00 -0600 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 21:00:10 -0600 (MDT) From: zwade To: FreeBSD Mail List Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A good C book In-Reply-To: <001201c13e60$6b5b1b80$3e6bfc96@acu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, FreeBSD Mail List wrote: FMLHello, I am starting to learn and use C. What is a good book for the C language? I understand the basics of programming, I really just need a good book that shows the syntax. I would preferably like one with a really good index and or appendices so if I need to say, for example, write an array, I can just go look up the syntax. Thanks for your help. Good evening, as a step by step => basic | even boring learning tool, I have found "Teach Yourself C in 24 Hours" by Sams Publishing to be ....ummmm...livable. One has to overlook the occaisional typo's and misspelled words: such as "aritemtic". However, as I work through that book page by page, completing all the exercises and READING EVERY WORD... I am developing a deep and lasting understanding of "C". I hope this helps. Regards, Z. Wade Hampton Missoula, MT Life on Earth just changed. Now it's up to you; good or evil. Truth, Love, UNIX, . . .or death. zwh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 15 21:27:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [208.128.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE9E37B403 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 21:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdprophet.org (peach29.theshop.net [206.30.143.94]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8G4Qct27716; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:26:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Scott@bsdprophet.org) Message-ID: <3BA42A38.804449A0@bsdprophet.org> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:27:36 -0500 From: Scott Corey Organization: Open Source Education Foundation osef.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mail List Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A good C book References: <001201c13e60$6b5b1b80$3e6bfc96@acu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org O'Reilly books have a varied assortment of "C" books. http://cprog.oreilly.com/ > FreeBSD Mail List wrote: > > Hello, I am starting to learn and use C. What is a good book for the > C language? I understand the basics of programming, I really just > need a good book that shows the syntax. I would preferably like one > with a really good index and or appendices so if I need to say, for > example, write an array, I can just go look up the syntax. Thanks for > your help. > Sincerely, > > Preston > freebsdmaillist@yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message