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greetings,

I am having a cron job report the following:

hermes.niicommunications.com kernel log messages:
> ull
> pid 14724 (locate.code), uid 65534 on /: file system full


However, here is the file system information:

Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s2a    48M    32M    13M    72%    /
/dev/da0s2f   7.4G   824M   6.0G    12%    /usr
/dev/da0s2e   775M    13M   701M     2%    /var
procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc


any ideas?  thanks..




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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Jan 21  0:21:55 2001
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Actually, most providers won't bat an eye if you have a cable/DSL router
waiting for them to plug it into. We told the tech that came out that we
were using a DSL router, and he just handed us the sheet with our info on
it. I fired up a web browser on one of the linux boxes and proceeded to set
it up. They did tell us we were on our own for technical support. Absolutely
no problem with that - SW Bell has not exactly impressed me with their
competence (at least as far as DSL goes) The only caveat is that we were
using a third party ISP, and are not using PPPOE - ours was the last of the
static IP's.

Oh, and if an ISP/service provider tried to push a USB solution on me - I
would ask them if they offered an ethernet version, and hang up if they
didn't. I've seen USB ethernet connections, and I'm not impressed. A friend
of mine drops off the network if she plugs her digital camera into the USB
port. Unfortunately, her Starband receiver will only use ethernet if she
opens the unit and removes the ethernet -> USB adapter board - voiding the
warranty.

Seth Henry
jshenry@net-noise.com

Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:33:51 -0600
From: Drew Sanford <drew@planetwe.com>
Subject: Re: bellsouth dsl?

Christian Kuhtz wrote:

> In fact, you could tell customer support that you're using a notebook
without
> USB, and they'll most likely hand you the alcatel 1000, which I am told is
> self-install.  Of course, you didn't hear this from me.  Good luck.

Actually they *insist* on sending a tech with this modem. The trick is,
let them hook it up to anything thats running winders and has a NIC in
it, then when they leave, plug it into whatever you want to.

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Also www.mutt.org and the linux howto's have a lot of info.  I just got
mutt up and running with gnupg with those resources.   Rob.



"Mark B. Withers" wrote:
> 
> Fair enough! :)
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 06:48:41PM -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 06:32:06PM -0500, Mark B. Withers wrote:
> > > This may be a simple question to answer, but how do I get mutt to save
> > > it's mail "folders" under the ~/mail directory instead of my ~ home
> > > directory? I personally don't like the clutter, but mutt is a great
> > > program otherwise.
> >
> > Suggest you read the mutt docs in /usr/local/share/doc/mutt.
> >
> > Kris
> >
> > --
> > NOTE: To fetch an updated copy of my GPG key which has not expired,
> > finger kris@FreeBSD.org
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Dear sir,
I'm trying to download FreeBSD ver 4.2, but i can't connect to your ftp
server. Can you help me ?
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 at 02:55:21 -0200, Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios wrote:
> Matthew Emmerton wrote:
> > > I am trying to get this Makefile running:
> > >
> > >
> > > DEP_EXT = FCGI_IO
> > >
> > > FCGI_IO ?= /usr/local/include
> > >
> > > main :
> > > .for _DEP_EXT in ${DEP_EXT}
> > > .if ${_DEP_EXT} == FCGI_IO
> > >         echo ${DEP_EXT}
> > > .endif
> > > .endfor
> > 
> > You need the conditional of the if statement in brackets:
> > 
> > .if (${_DEP_EXT} == FCGI_IO)
> 
> Thanks for your help, but i think that it does not solve the problem.
> 
> DEP_EXT = FCGI_IO
> 
> FCGI_IO ?= /usr/local/include
> 
> main :
> .for _DEP_EXT in ${DEP_EXT}
> .if (${_DEP_EXT} == FCGI_IO)
>         echo ${_DEP_EXT}
> .endif
> .endfor
> 
> And now:
> 
> grios@etosha$ make
> "Makefile", line 1: Malformed conditional ((FCGI_IO == FCGI_IO))
> "Makefile", line 1: Missing dependency operator

Erm, read this and then look at your first line.  Do you see the 
difference?

- jim

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 at 16:01:53 +0700, Jimmy Pandapotan wrote:
> Dear sir,
> I'm trying to download FreeBSD ver 4.2, but i can't connect to your 
> ftp server. Can you help me ?

Use a mirror, that's why they exist.  There is a list in the handbook at 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html.

- jim

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Hi,
whats this all about?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Default branch: MAIN

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Revision 1.20 / (download) - annotate - [select for diffs], Sun Jan 21
00:48:20 2001 UTC (7 hours, 49 minutes ago) by kris
Branch: MAIN
CVS Tags: HEAD
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Mark FORBIDDEN; local buffer overflows yielding user nobody.





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what happens with softupdates bugs?
what happens when softupdates crash?

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Jason Hunt wrote:
> 
> greetings,
> 
> I use to run a dedicated quake3 server on linux (when it was my
> firewall), now that I am using FreeBSD as my firewall I would like to
> allow UDP connections so people can access quake 3 server when I run it
> on the firewall.  I believe the connections come in on UDP 9xxxx..  any
> tips on this?  thanks
> 

you will need to allow udp traffic in/out on 27960 for clients.
you will also need to allow udp traffic in/out to
[authorize.quake3arena.com], ports 27950-27960.


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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Thakingfish wrote:

> Hi,
> whats this all about?
>
> Revision 1.20 / (download) - annotate - [select for diffs], Sun Jan 21
> 00:48:20 2001 UTC (7 hours, 49 minutes ago) by kris
> Branch: MAIN
> CVS Tags: HEAD
> Changes since 1.19: +2 -1 lines
> Diff to previous 1.19 (colored)
> Mark FORBIDDEN; local buffer overflows yielding user nobody.
> 
Looking at the Makefile, it appears that dbaker himself marked
it. Straight from the horse's mouth, though the horse doesn't seem to have
told anyone anything so far... I'm sure it'll get its fair share of
publicity soon enough.

-ac


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I compiled and executed a small program and it's eating about 336 of
real memory (rss) and 840 of virtual size memory (vsz), may some one
explain why a simple program eats about 1 MB of memory?

How big is the sleep function ?

The source code is:

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

int
main(void)
{
        sleep(300);
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    I have an older FreeBSD installation, supplied to me by my ISP many
years ago.  It was on a 1.6 GB EIDE drive and old 66 Mhz PC.

    Two weeks ago I decided to replace this server with a new PC, with 4
GB EIDE, CD Drive and fast processor.  Not knowing how to do it, I
pulled the 1.6 drive and found that Norton's `Ghost' could read it.  I
copied it to the 4 GB offline.  I put the 4 GB in the new PC and it ran
fine, except the first night, when it coughed and restared several
times.  I think BSD must have been making fixes for its new environment?

    But, I would like to know how much of the 4 GB the single OS is
using.  I have looked at my books and your site helps and can't seem to
find a command similar to dos' `dir', which will end its display with
`bytes available' info.

    This raises other issues:  If it's using 1.6 GB only, who there can
help me (for money) by phone change the slice sizes, and maybe advise
about swap space and other matters, such as is the CD being seen, and is
the CD useful to me.  This is a small installation of less than 60
users.

    Too, I once wrote some PPP stuff to get my dial-up modem working on
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exactly, but it's working great.  (This gives me ISP free from home
through my BSD at the office.)

    Can one of your experts help me look at my install and get the same
thing working for COM2, so I can hang another modem?

    Last point.  It's been centuries since I upgraded (although I have
two newer CD sets at my office where I was thinking about trying).
Everything runs great on my system, but I need to consider the security
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 02:13:33AM -0600, Jason Hunt wrote:
> greetings,
>=20
> I am having a cron job report the following:
>=20
> hermes.niicommunications.com kernel log messages:
> > ull
> > pid 14724 (locate.code), uid 65534 on /: file system full

It's filling up /tmp during the nightly update of the locate
database. Move /tmp onto a MFS partition - see mount_mfs(8) for how to
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 03:31:26AM -0600, Alex Charalabidis wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Thakingfish wrote:
>=20
> > Hi,
> > whats this all about?
> >
> > Revision 1.20 / (download) - annotate - [select for diffs], Sun Jan 21
> > 00:48:20 2001 UTC (7 hours, 49 minutes ago) by kris
> > Branch: MAIN
> > CVS Tags: HEAD
> > Changes since 1.19: +2 -1 lines
> > Diff to previous 1.19 (colored)
> > Mark FORBIDDEN; local buffer overflows yielding user nobody.
> >=20
> Looking at the Makefile, it appears that dbaker himself marked
> it. Straight from the horse's mouth, though the horse doesn't seem to have
> told anyone anything so far... I'm sure it'll get its fair share of
> publicity soon enough.

No, it was me ("kris" :-). It means what it says; the dnetc client is
installed setuid nobody, and I discovered that it has locally
exploitable buffer overflows which can be used to gain the privileges
of that user. On many systems the nobody user actually has ownership
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 01:09:52AM -0800, Randy Primeaux wrote:
> what happens with softupdates bugs?
> what happens when softupdates crash?

Can you please be more specific with your question?

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On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:12:19 -0800
Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:

> > Just installed wine (20001202 I think) from ports, but anytime I try
> > to run Wine it crashes X (4.0.1) hard (segfault). Why it segfault I
> > don't know. X-log doesn't tell just that it caugth a signal 11, and
> > Wine quits because it looses connection to the display.
> This sounds like an XFree86 bug which should be reported to XFree86. I
> would try 4.0.2 first though, as you suggest.

4.0.2 crashes hard too.

So where should I go to first? Wine port-maintainer? Winehq? XFree portmaintainer? Or XFree86 directly?

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 03:31:26AM -0600, Alex Charalabidis wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Thakingfish wrote:
> > 
> > > Revision 1.20 / (download) - annotate - [select for diffs], Sun Jan 21
> > > 00:48:20 2001 UTC (7 hours, 49 minutes ago) by kris
> > > Branch: MAIN
> > > CVS Tags: HEAD
> > > Changes since 1.19: +2 -1 lines
> > > Diff to previous 1.19 (colored)
> > > Mark FORBIDDEN; local buffer overflows yielding user nobody.
> > > 
> > Looking at the Makefile, it appears that dbaker himself marked
> > it. Straight from the horse's mouth, though the horse doesn't seem to have
> > told anyone anything so far... I'm sure it'll get its fair share of
> > publicity soon enough.
> 
> No, it was me ("kris" :-). It means what it says; the dnetc client is
> installed setuid nobody, and I discovered that it has locally
> exploitable buffer overflows which can be used to gain the privileges
> of that user. On many systems the nobody user actually has ownership
> of some files, etc, and may even be used to run services (the apache
> ports are a prime offender here), so this is a potential security risk
> on those systems.
> 
Oops, misread it. So it was the horse, not the cow. :) We'll be expecting
an advisory whenever they fix it. Moo.

Sure, it's a problem for everyone who runs so much stuff as nobody that
they might as well run it as root. I think I'll just assign it its own
user. Not that I care more than anyone else to litter the world with
separate users for every trivial task, but is it worth doing by default 
for this particular package?

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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 04:36:00AM -0600, Alex Charalabidis wrote:

> Oops, misread it. So it was the horse, not the cow. :) We'll be expecting
> an advisory whenever they fix it. Moo.
>=20
> Sure, it's a problem for everyone who runs so much stuff as nobody that
> they might as well run it as root. I think I'll just assign it its own
> user. Not that I care more than anyone else to litter the world with
> separate users for every trivial task, but is it worth doing by default=
=20
> for this particular package?

The nobody user shouldn't confer any special privileges. Currently the
apache ports break that rule since ownership of the webserver is
certainly a privilege. But I don't know that the ability to submit RC5
blocks is a sufficient privilege that it should get its own user. On
the other hand, if dnetc proves to be an ongoing source of problems
(being a binary-only client makes it more difficult to check, and
apparently no-one has ever poked at it before, because it was really
obvious) then firewalling it away from the other remaining
applications which still inappropriately use nobody would be of
benefit.

I think the real issue here is fixing the other stuff which uses
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On Thursday, 18 January 2001 at 15:19:38 -0600, Oscar Ricardo Silva wrote:
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> archives.  Any idea of when the 4th edition of The Complete FreeBSD will be
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Not yet.  I hope soon.

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I have -CURRENT on a UP P166 box.

I've just managed to build a new kernel and world (cvsuped yesterday)
and installed them both. Now I get:

cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/home/alex/work/own.

whenever I want to compile something not so trivial as `hello world'.

So, am I stuck in this situation? I cannot build neither kernel nor
gcc now. Are there any ways out? Unfortunately, I don't backup system
binaries, libs or headers.

How can I debug this? BTW, other big programs such as INN, apache +
mod_php4 work like a charm.

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I remember seeing the user 'nobody' used after upgrading it last time.
I changed my startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d to 'su -m <user>'
instead of su'ing to nobody. I also changed the permissions so that my
<user> had access to it. Is this an acceptable workaround? If so, it
might a simple change of the installation script. Maybe add a question
in the install where it asks "What user do you want to run this as?"
-Otter

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Subject: Re: dnetc in FBSD


On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 04:36:00AM -0600, Alex Charalabidis wrote:

> Oops, misread it. So it was the horse, not the cow. :) We'll be
expecting
> an advisory whenever they fix it. Moo.
>
> Sure, it's a problem for everyone who runs so much stuff as nobody
that
> they might as well run it as root. I think I'll just assign it its
own
> user. Not that I care more than anyone else to litter the world with
> separate users for every trivial task, but is it worth doing by
default
> for this particular package?

The nobody user shouldn't confer any special privileges. Currently the
apache ports break that rule since ownership of the webserver is
certainly a privilege. But I don't know that the ability to submit RC5
blocks is a sufficient privilege that it should get its own user. On
the other hand, if dnetc proves to be an ongoing source of problems
(being a binary-only client makes it more difficult to check, and
apparently no-one has ever poked at it before, because it was really
obvious) then firewalling it away from the other remaining
applications which still inappropriately use nobody would be of
benefit.

I think the real issue here is fixing the other stuff which uses
nobody, though.

Kris

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You can run your preference of the df command.  See man df for
particulars.

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Bryant Martin wrote:

> 
>     I have an older FreeBSD installation, supplied to me by my ISP many
> years ago.  It was on a 1.6 GB EIDE drive and old 66 Mhz PC.
> 
>     Two weeks ago I decided to replace this server with a new PC, with 4
> GB EIDE, CD Drive and fast processor.  Not knowing how to do it, I
> pulled the 1.6 drive and found that Norton's `Ghost' could read it.  I
> copied it to the 4 GB offline.  I put the 4 GB in the new PC and it ran
> fine, except the first night, when it coughed and restared several
> times.  I think BSD must have been making fixes for its new environment?
> 
>     But, I would like to know how much of the 4 GB the single OS is
> using.  I have looked at my books and your site helps and can't seem to
> find a command similar to dos' `dir', which will end its display with
> `bytes available' info.
> 
>     This raises other issues:  If it's using 1.6 GB only, who there can
> help me (for money) by phone change the slice sizes, and maybe advise
> about swap space and other matters, such as is the CD being seen, and is
> the CD useful to me.  This is a small installation of less than 60
> users.
> 
>     Too, I once wrote some PPP stuff to get my dial-up modem working on
> COM1.  That took me two months, and I've forgotten how I did it,
> exactly, but it's working great.  (This gives me ISP free from home
> through my BSD at the office.)
> 
>     Can one of your experts help me look at my install and get the same
> thing working for COM2, so I can hang another modem?
> 
>     Last point.  It's been centuries since I upgraded (although I have
> two newer CD sets at my office where I was thinking about trying).
> Everything runs great on my system, but I need to consider the security
> implications of staying back at my old level.
> 
> Thanks for considering my pleas.
> 
> Bryant Martin
> 
> Commonwealth/Martin
> 1700 Venable Street
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> 
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> end_of_document
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Hi,

I'm quite new to FreeBSD - and in my 'security check output' which the box
mails to me I got the following:

www.pensionweb.com kernel log messages:
> supplying EUI64: 00:d0:b7:ff:fe:70:26:c7


but when I checked on the server it wasn't listed in /var/log/messages

Does anyone know what it is - or why it isn't in /var/log/messages?

Thanks
-Rob

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Complete FreeBSD used to be included on the CD's from Walnut Creek & also
the downloadable ISO image version, but that appears to have been
discontinued in 4.2.

Its not quite as good as the hard copy though as its only plain text so all
the diagrams are missing.

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> Hello every friends on this mailing list!
>
>    I am newbie in FreeBSD. I learn that there is a famous
> book on FreeBSD 'Complete FreeBSD'.but I cann't find
> this book in bookstore in China,and I cann't afford buying
> a hardcopy from abroad.
>
>    can anyone tell me whether i can find electronic book
> of that book,and where can I get it.
>
>
>   Thanks in advance for any help.
> --
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 11:29:12AM +0100, Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:12:19 -0800
> Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
>=20
> > > Just installed wine (20001202 I think) from ports, but anytime I try
> > > to run Wine it crashes X (4.0.1) hard (segfault). Why it segfault I
> > > don't know. X-log doesn't tell just that it caugth a signal 11, and
> > > Wine quits because it looses connection to the display.
> > This sounds like an XFree86 bug which should be reported to XFree86. I
> > would try 4.0.2 first though, as you suggest.
>=20
> 4.0.2 crashes hard too.
>=20
> So where should I go to first? Wine port-maintainer? Winehq? XFree
> portmaintainer? Or XFree86 directly?

XFree86..it's a problem with their software.

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I have recently bitten the bullet and installed FreeBSD on my laptop (a
Toshiba Satellite 2515CDS), however, can not get it to attach to my LAN.

The LAN cards I am trying to use are a PC-Card (CardBus) LinkSys PC200 and
a D-Link DSB-650TX USB connector.

If I have the USB connector plugged in on boot up, I get:

aue0: MII read timed out

repeatedly, and have to remove & power-cycle to get the machine back up.

The PCCARD lan adaptor doesn't even probe or activate.

Any ideas on other LAN hardware that might actually work?  I'd really like
to get a homogenous FreeBSD environment here :)

(FWIW, the rest of my machines are running 4.2-STABLE; the laptop is
running a 4.2-RELEASE from the ISO image at ftp.freebsd.org)

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From: "Ron Klinkien" <ron@zappa.demon.nl>
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Subject: Broken Pipes with make world 4.2-STABLE
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Since yesterday building my man pages db fails when
doing an make world:
--------snip---------
===> etc
===> etc/sendmail
--------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Rebuilding man page indices
--------------------------------------------------------------
cd /usr/src/share/man; make makedb
makewhatis /usr/share/man
gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
...
...
gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
rm -rf /tmp/install.93065
--------------------------------------------------------------
>>> elf make world completed on Sun Jan 21 14:33:59 CET 2001
                       (started Sun Jan 21 12:24:04 CET 2001)
--------------------------------------------------------------

I did an cvsup and a new make -j 3 world, to no avail...

There is enough diskspace...and gzcat is working fine...
uname -a
FreeBSD bsdserver.smalweer.nl 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #3: Sat Jan 20
01:32:36 CET 2001
root@bsdserver.smalweer.nl:/usr/src/sys/compile/BSDSERVER  i386

Regards,
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I already had the line in my .muttrc file which you mentioned, however
when I save a message it still puts it in my ~ directory. 

I have also spent a good 2 hours reading the manual.txt, though I
haven't read it completely through plus the man page for mutt. I am
using the sample config file that came with the distribution with all
the color settings & such.

I'll have a look at www.mutt.org

Thanks again for the help!

Mark

On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 03:45:26AM -0500, Rob wrote:
> Also www.mutt.org and the linux howto's have a lot of info.  I just got
> mutt up and running with gnupg with those resources.   Rob.
> 
> 
> 
> "Mark B. Withers" wrote:
> > 
> > Fair enough! :)
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 06:48:41PM -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 06:32:06PM -0500, Mark B. Withers wrote:
> > > > This may be a simple question to answer, but how do I get mutt to save
> > > > it's mail "folders" under the ~/mail directory instead of my ~ home
> > > > directory? I personally don't like the clutter, but mutt is a great
> > > > program otherwise.
> > >
> > > Suggest you read the mutt docs in /usr/local/share/doc/mutt.
> > >
> > > Kris
> > >
> > > --
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Hi,

After many evenings and a whole weekend of experimenting, I am stuck at
the following problem. To connect my computer at home to the intranet at
work I start up "ppp -auto ppp-dialout" at boot. This works flawlessly.
To build up connections from the intranet to my computer at home in case
the dialout link is not present, I have installed mgetty in AutoPPP
mode, resulting in "ppp -direct ppp-dialin". Also this works flawlessly.
The problem is that I cannot get them both to work at the same time.

The ppp-dialout stuff results in a tun0 being set up from 192.168.16.1
(home) to 172.16.2.12 (work), and a default route to 172.16.2.12 via
tun0. When there is an incoming connection, a tun1 is set up from
192.168.16.1 (home) to 172.16.2.12 (work), with a default route to
172.16.2.12 via tun1. To avoid conflicts, I made the ppp-dialin in
section ppp.conf to reconfigure the tun0 interface and delete the
default route via tun0. This is ugly and I hope there is a more elegant
way, but it works. However, when the dialin connection via tun1 is
finished, I want to restore the configuration of tun0 as well as the
default route, but so far I have been unsuccessful. These are my
configuration files:

ppp.conf
========
default:
 set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command
 set device /dev/cuaa0
 set speed 115200
 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT \
           OK-AT-OK ATZ OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT"

ppp-dialout:
 set phone ********
 set authname ********
 set authkey ********
 set ifaddr 192.168.16.1 172.16.2.12 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0
 add default HISADDR

ppp-dialin:
 enable chap
 shell /sbin/ifconfig tun0 10.1.1.1 10.1.1.2
 shell /sbin/route delete default
 set ifaddr 192.168.16.1 172.16.2.12 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0
 add default HISADDR

ppp.linkdown
============
ppp-dialin:
 shell /sbin/ifconfig tun0 192.168.16.1 172.16.2.12
 shell /sbin/route add default 172.16.2.12

When the dialin connection is finished, tun0 is setup again from
192.168.16.1 (home) to 172.16.2.12 (work), but with "netstat -rn" I can
see that the following routes are missing:

default            172.16.2.12        UGSc        6        0     tun0
172.16.2.12        192.168.16.1       UH          7        0     tun0

I tried already a million things, but nothing seems to be able to
restore the original routing table. Can anyone point me in the right
direction?

Thanks,
Maurice

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl Speare" <carlds@attglobal.net>
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> With the advent of DSL and such, wouldn't it make sense to also have a
> tar/gzip of the full releases?
> 
> For example, it would be nice to be able to download freebsd-4.2.tar.gz
> in one huge shot, instead of having to recurse through numerous
> directories with wget or such in order to download the latest version.
> 
> (Though I also do buy regular versions, and am a supporting member...)
> 
> --Carl
> 
> 

Why not just do an ftp install?

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I wouldn't swear to it, but I seem to remember someone posting that
cardbus support is only in -current right now. Don't quote me on that
though. If you want to see what is definitely supported, try taking a
look at /usr/src/etc/defaults/pccard.conf. If you cvsup to -stable,
you'll notice a larger number of supported devices once you run
mergemaster to get the newer pccard.conf.
-Otter
p.s. my 10/100 Megahertz (3com)574B works just fine on my Toshiba
Satellite 330CDS.

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[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Joseph Stein
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Subject: Notebook ethernet cards?


I have recently bitten the bullet and installed FreeBSD on my laptop
(a
Toshiba Satellite 2515CDS), however, can not get it to attach to my
LAN.

The LAN cards I am trying to use are a PC-Card (CardBus) LinkSys PC200
and
a D-Link DSB-650TX USB connector.

If I have the USB connector plugged in on boot up, I get:

aue0: MII read timed out

repeatedly, and have to remove & power-cycle to get the machine back
up.

The PCCARD lan adaptor doesn't even probe or activate.

Any ideas on other LAN hardware that might actually work?  I'd really
like
to get a homogenous FreeBSD environment here :)

(FWIW, the rest of my machines are running 4.2-STABLE; the laptop is
running a 4.2-RELEASE from the ISO image at ftp.freebsd.org)

joe



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Hello all,

I've been trying to fix a problem I'm facing without luck for the last
few weeks. I also searched mailing lists for a similar problem, both
MySQL and FreeBSD, without luck.

The situation is as follows... A brank new server was deployed last
month for our company. It's a 933Mhz Xeon-based server, with 1GB of
memory, a RAID-5 system utilizing 4 IBM SCSI 10K RPM LVD disks. As you
can see, a very high-performance server for our company's Web needs. I
installed FreeBSD 4.1.1 on it, then upgraded to 4.2-STABLE up to last
week's snapshot. Currently, it has Apache 1.3.14 + mod_ssl, MySQL
3.23.31 and PHP 4.0.4pl1 -- as you can imagine, most RECENT versions.

The problem persists, though, and here it is: every once in a while,
sometimes once a week, the mysqld process goes into OVERHEAT state with
CPU usage getting as high as 97%, thus making it almost impossible for
clients to connect to it. I checked mysqld's process usage once while
this happened, and I found around 60 processes (connections). Not a big
deal as I saw much more processes connect to the same daemon before, and
still it continued to work.

Anyways, this problem keeps bugging me all the time. I look at lists
over and over and cannot understand why this is happening. I've even
tried limiting Apache to a minimum of connections (sometimes as low as
300 maximum requests for the whole Apache daemons), but it didn't
help -- eventualy, mysqld would go into this almost-dead state and no
more Web pages would be served correctly.

I'm attaching the my.cnf file for you to examine. Remember, this is the
stock my.cnf file that came with MySQL for large Web sites (those having
more than 512MB of memory), with a little modification.

By the way, someone on the MySQL mailing list suggested that BSD's
threading support "sucks", and only after he moved to Debian that these
simptoms disappeared.

I'd appreciate any hint or fix that you might have, and I would even let
serious bug-hunters/mysql gurus get a shell on our server to try to
check and fix this problem.

Thanks in advance.

Noor

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set-variable	=3D sort_buffer=3D1M=0A=
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set-variable	=3D myisam_sort_buffer_size=3D64M=0A=
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set-variable	=3D thread_concurrency=3D2	# Try number of CPU's*2=0A=
set-variable	=3D max_connections=3D200=0A=
#log-bin=0A=
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=0A=
# Uncomment the following if you are using BDB tables=0A=
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Huh, I removed '-O' switch from ${CFLAGS} and managed to rebuild
and reinstall gcc. This new (in fact the same) gcc now works fine both
with '-O' and without it. Looks like a pilot error. Strange, anyway.
Sorry to bother you all.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 02:50:48PM +0300, Alex Kapranoff wrote:
> I have -CURRENT on a UP P166 box.
> 
> I've just managed to build a new kernel and world (cvsuped yesterday)
> and installed them both. Now I get:
> 
> cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/home/alex/work/own.
> 
> whenever I want to compile something not so trivial as `hello world'.
> 
> So, am I stuck in this situation? I cannot build neither kernel nor
> gcc now. Are there any ways out? Unfortunately, I don't backup system
> binaries, libs or headers.
> 
> How can I debug this? BTW, other big programs such as INN, apache +
> mod_php4 work like a charm.

-- 
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I now this is not the right place to post it but i know how smart the people
are on this list and feel i can get an answer!

I have a CTREE database file, i think CTREE is created with C++ libs but im
not sure. I have a Database in ctree and it consists of two files:

-rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    238167118 Jan 21 10:17 users.dat
-rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    10354688 Jan 21 10:17 users.idx

Now, when i run 'file <filename>' it just reports the file as being data so
i assume that this type of database file is hardly ever used or not just
commonplace.

# file users.dat
users.dat:      data
# file users.idx
users.idx:      data

Does anyone know how i can get support for this on my freebsd box so i can
somehow convert this database file into an ascii, comma delimited text file
and into something more common.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Joe



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What are the differences between those two OS ?

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        Hello,

    I'm writting: "cd /dev; sh ./MAKEDEV fd" and getting error: "bad
unit for disk in: fd" what can I do now !!????!!?
    Please help !!!!

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios" <gustavo@ifour.com.br>
To: "Jake Rivera" <jakerivera@ameritech.net>
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Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: Problem


> > Jake Rivera wrote:
> > 
> >  i can't get ppp to connect to my isp, well, actually, i can't get my
> >  modem to dial here's the logs, no matter how i try to launch it, i
> >  get ' warning: deflink: /dev/cuaa2: device not configured' so how do
> > i configure that? my modem is on com5 in windows,  And I only have the
> > option ppp0 and two more that I can't remember.
> 
> 
> You have to enable it into your kernel and set the necesary parameters,
> like IRQ and IO port.
> After build the whole kernel, need to (cd /dev; ./MAKEDEV all)
> 
> For configuring your kernel, take a look at /sys/i386/conf/LINT.
> 
> 

Most likely, you have a winmodem which is unsupported in FreeBSD.

Josh





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Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios <gustavo@ifour.com.br> types:
> I compiled and executed a small program and it's eating about 336 of
> real memory (rss) and 840 of virtual size memory (vsz), may some one
> explain why a simple program eats about 1 MB of memory?

You linked it shared, right? That 1MB includes all of every shared
library it uses, whether it uses those functions or not. Linking it
static will make it noticably smaller - but that still drags in some
fairly large chunks of the standard IO library.

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I'd appreciate being allowed to tax the accumulated experience and knowledge
with the following question.

My company has a modem pool which accepts incoming calls from both analog
and ISDN modems.  I have a D-Link router behind my ISDN box but no ISDN
modem.  I would like to be able to call the modem pool and connect into our
network.  However it doesn't work with a simple dial-up by the router onto
the network.

Now I know the experts are probably rolling about on the floor laughing at
this point, but I would like to know what it is that prevents this kind of
contact from working, and whether there is a software solution available.

As I see it, ISDN is merely a carrier, just like the analog lines, and I
can't see that an ISDN modem is going to transmit the information by sending
beeps at 900 hz and 1.3 khz, or whatever the frequencies are, as the analog
lines do.  I am assuming that an ISDN modem converts the digital TCP/IP
packets coming from the computer to another digital format for ISDN
transmission, whereupon some part of the modem pool at the other end
converts the ISDN signals back into TCP/IP.

Thanks for any direct or indirect (e.g. URLs) help with this one, which has
been puzzling me for a while.

mvh/regards

James



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        Hello all,

    I want to write my own file system, where I can find information how
many tracks, heads, sectors per track
    have my disk (or any other disk) ??? And how UNIX reads-writes
blocks, I mean by sector-cylinder-head,
    or linear addressing... In a word please explain me it, is it an
algorythm for calculating sector-cylinder-head  number from block
    number ???
    Where can I get more information on writting own file system???

    Many thanks in advance - Ed



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            Hello people,
    I want to write my own OS(tiny) :-) and I have witten a boot loader
on assebler, but I can't to do an image to
    disk ! I wrote about it many times, but I still haven't correct
answer ! Can anybody help me?
    I am typing: "cat fname > /dev/fd0" or any other device "/dev/rfd0"
I tryed them all !!! I am getting:
    "cat: stdout: Invalid argument" ! I tryed: "dd if=fname of=/dev/fd0"
(with all floppy device files) I got:
    "dd: /dev/fd0: Invalid argument" ! What it's going ON !!! I can't
work with my comp normally !!!
    I tryed to remake floppy device: "cd dev; sh ./MAKEDEV fd 0" and "cd
/dev; sh ./MAKEDEV fd*"... etc.
    I got: "bad unit for disk in: fd" !  don't know what I have to do
now !?

    Please don't write answers like: "check your disk" or "your floppy
device is bad"(I can mount it, read-write files) or
    "floppy must be unmounted"

-- I am not dumb, in
this case(with my FreeBSD) I need a professional answer.

    Many thanks for reading - Ed



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Hi!
I've modifyed the source of pppd-2.3.5 and made 3 new options(i think it will
be usefull):



       usepeerdns
              Ask the peer for up to 2 DNS server addresses.  The
              addresses supplied by the peer (if any) are  passed
              to  the  /etc/ppp/ip-up  script  in the environment
              variables DNS1 and DNS2.
 
       update-resolv
              The /etc/resolv.conf will be updated with  the  DNS
              addresses  supplied by the peer (if any). But envi-
              ronment variables DNS1 and DNS2  are  still  avail-
              able.  This  option is work in conjunction with the
              usepeerdns option only.
 

       hide-password
              When logging the  contents  of  PAP  packets,  this
              option  causes  pppd to exclude the password string
              from the log.
 
usepeerdns and hide-password i've taken from pppd-2.3.9, but usepeerdns option
does not auto-update resolv.conf. So DNS1, DNS2, USEPEERDNS Environment Variables should be used. Option update-resolv rewrite resolv.conf, but DNS1, DNS2, USEPEERDNS are still available.
I've make a patch by this way:
origin pppd was in /root/pppd.orig
new pppd was in /root/pppd
commands:
1) cd /root/pppd
2) for i in *;do diff -u ../pppd.orig/$i $i >> ../pppd.patch;done

So this patch i'll send you.

I hope it will be usefull for all.
This is my second patch for FreeBSD(first was for QuakeForge and it make QF run with svgalibs)

Sorry for my English(it's not my native language)
Bye.
----------------------
Kovirshin Alexey(cyberwin@mail.ru)


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--- ../pppd.orig/ipcp.c	Sat Aug 28 05:19:03 1999
+++ ipcp.c	Sun Jan 21 04:29:10 2001
@@ -42,7 +42,7 @@
 /* global vars */
 ipcp_options ipcp_wantoptions[NUM_PPP];	/* Options that we want to request */
 ipcp_options ipcp_gotoptions[NUM_PPP];	/* Options that peer ack'd */
-ipcp_options ipcp_allowoptions[NUM_PPP];	/* Options we allow peer to request */
+ipcp_options ipcp_allowoptions[NUM_PPP];/* Options we allow peer to request */
 ipcp_options ipcp_hisoptions[NUM_PPP];	/* Options that we ack'd */
 
 /* local vars */
@@ -100,6 +100,7 @@
 static void ip_check_options __P((void));
 static int  ip_demand_conf __P((int));
 static int  ip_active_pkt __P((u_char *, int));
+static void create_resolv __P((u_int32_t, u_int32_t));
 
 struct protent ipcp_protent = {
     PPP_IPCP,
@@ -301,7 +302,7 @@
 
 #define LENCIVJ(neg, old)	(neg ? (old? CILEN_COMPRESS : CILEN_VJ) : 0)
 #define LENCIADDR(neg, old)	(neg ? (old? CILEN_ADDRS : CILEN_ADDR) : 0)
-
+#define LENCIDNS(neg)		(neg ? (CILEN_ADDR) : 0)
     /*
      * First see if we want to change our options to the old
      * forms because we have received old forms from the peer.
@@ -327,7 +328,9 @@
     }
 
     return (LENCIADDR(go->neg_addr, go->old_addrs) +
-	    LENCIVJ(go->neg_vj, go->old_vj));
+	    LENCIVJ(go->neg_vj, go->old_vj) +
+	    LENCIDNS(go->req_dns1) +
+	    LENCIDNS(go->req_dns2)) ;
 }
 
 
@@ -377,11 +380,28 @@
 	    neg = 0; \
     }
 
+#define ADDCIDNS(opt, neg, addr) \
+    if (neg) { \
+	if (len >= CILEN_ADDR) { \
+	    u_int32_t l; \
+	    PUTCHAR(opt, ucp); \
+	    PUTCHAR(CILEN_ADDR, ucp); \
+	    l = ntohl(addr);\
+	    PUTLONG(l, ucp); \
+	    len -= CILEN_ADDR; \
+	} else \
+	    neg = 0; \
+    }
+
     ADDCIADDR((go->old_addrs? CI_ADDRS: CI_ADDR), go->neg_addr,
 	      go->old_addrs, go->ouraddr, go->hisaddr);
 
     ADDCIVJ(CI_COMPRESSTYPE, go->neg_vj, go->vj_protocol, go->old_vj,
 	    go->maxslotindex, go->cflag);
+	    
+    ADDCIDNS(CI_MS_DNS1,go->req_dns1,go->dnsaddr[0]);
+    
+    ADDCIDNS(CI_MS_DNS2,go->req_dns2,go->dnsaddr[1]);
 
     *lenp -= len;
 }
@@ -457,11 +477,30 @@
 	} \
     }
 
+#define ACKCIDNS(opt, neg, addr) \
+    if (neg) { \
+	u_int32_t l; \
+	if ((len -= CILEN_ADDR) < 0) \
+	    goto bad; \
+	GETCHAR(citype, p); \
+	GETCHAR(cilen, p); \
+	if (cilen != CILEN_ADDR || citype != opt) \
+	    goto bad; \
+	GETLONG(l, p); \
+	cilong = htonl(l);\
+	if (addr != cilong) \
+	    goto bad; \
+    }
+
     ACKCIADDR((go->old_addrs? CI_ADDRS: CI_ADDR), go->neg_addr,
 	      go->old_addrs, go->ouraddr, go->hisaddr);
 
     ACKCIVJ(CI_COMPRESSTYPE, go->neg_vj, go->vj_protocol, go->old_vj,
 	    go->maxslotindex, go->cflag);
+	    
+    ACKCIDNS(CI_MS_DNS1,go->req_dns1,go->dnsaddr[0]);
+    
+    ACKCIDNS(CI_MS_DNS2,go->req_dns2,go->dnsaddr[1]);
 
     /*
      * If there are any remaining CIs, then this packet is bad.
@@ -494,7 +533,7 @@
     u_char cimaxslotindex, cicflag;
     u_char citype, cilen, *next;
     u_short cishort;
-    u_int32_t ciaddr1, ciaddr2, l;
+    u_int32_t ciaddr1, ciaddr2, l, cidnsaddr;
     ipcp_options no;		/* options we've seen Naks for */
     ipcp_options try;		/* options to request next time */
 
@@ -537,6 +576,19 @@
         code \
     }
 
+#define NAKCIDNS(opt, neg, code) \
+    if (go->neg && \
+	((cilen = p[1]) == CILEN_ADDR) && \
+	len >= cilen && \
+	p[0] == opt) { \
+	len -= cilen; \
+	INCPTR(2, p); \
+	GETLONG(l, p); \
+	cidnsaddr = htonl(l); \
+	no.neg = 1; \
+	code \
+    }
+
     /*
      * Accept the peer's idea of {our,his} address, if different
      * from our idea, only if the accept_{local,remote} flag is set.
@@ -583,6 +635,14 @@
 	    }
 	    );
 
+    NAKCIDNS(CI_MS_DNS1, req_dns1,
+	    try.dnsaddr[0] = cidnsaddr;
+	    );
+
+    NAKCIDNS(CI_MS_DNS2, req_dns2,
+	    try.dnsaddr[1] = cidnsaddr;
+	    );
+
     /*
      * There may be remaining CIs, if the peer is requesting negotiation
      * on an option that we didn't include in our request packet.
@@ -719,12 +779,32 @@
 	try.neg = 0; \
      }
 
+#define REJCIDNS(opt, neg, dnsaddr) \
+    if(go->neg && \
+	((cilen = p[1]) == CILEN_ADDR) && \
+	len >= cilen && \
+	p[0] == opt) { \
+	u_int32_t l; \
+	len -= cilen; \
+	INCPTR(2, p); \
+	GETLONG(l, p); \
+	cilong = htonl(l); \
+	/* Check rejected value. */ \
+	if (cilong != dnsaddr) \
+	    goto bad; \
+	try.neg = 0; \
+    }
+
     REJCIADDR((go->old_addrs? CI_ADDRS: CI_ADDR), neg_addr,
 	      go->old_addrs, go->ouraddr, go->hisaddr);
 
     REJCIVJ(CI_COMPRESSTYPE, neg_vj, go->vj_protocol, go->old_vj,
 	    go->maxslotindex, go->cflag);
 
+    REJCIDNS(CI_MS_DNS1, req_dns1, go->dnsaddr[0]);
+
+    REJCIDNS(CI_MS_DNS2, req_dns2, go->dnsaddr[1]);
+
     /*
      * If there are any remaining CIs, then this packet is bad.
      */
@@ -1159,6 +1239,17 @@
     }
     script_setenv("IPLOCAL", ip_ntoa(go->ouraddr));
     script_setenv("IPREMOTE", ip_ntoa(ho->hisaddr));
+    
+    if (go->dnsaddr[0] || go->dnsaddr[1]) {
+	script_setenv("USEPEERDNS","1");
+	if (go->dnsaddr[0])
+	    script_setenv("DNS1",ip_ntoa(go->dnsaddr[0]));
+	if (go->dnsaddr[1])
+	    if (go->dnsaddr[1] != go->dnsaddr[0]) /* if addresses are not same */
+		script_setenv("DNS2",ip_ntoa(go->dnsaddr[1]));
+	if (update_resolv)
+	    create_resolv(go->dnsaddr[0], go->dnsaddr[1]);
+    }
 
     /*
      * Check that the peer is allowed to use the IP address it wants.
@@ -1252,6 +1343,11 @@
 
 	syslog(LOG_NOTICE, "local  IP address %s", ip_ntoa(go->ouraddr));
 	syslog(LOG_NOTICE, "remote IP address %s", ip_ntoa(ho->hisaddr));
+	if (go->dnsaddr[0])
+	    syslog(LOG_NOTICE, "primary DNS address %s",ip_ntoa(go->dnsaddr[0]));
+	if (go->dnsaddr[1])
+	    if (go->dnsaddr[1] != go->dnsaddr[0])
+		syslog(LOG_NOTICE, "secondary DNS address %s",ip_ntoa(go->dnsaddr[1]));
     }
 
     /*
@@ -1353,6 +1449,33 @@
     argv[6] = ipparam;
     argv[7] = NULL;
     run_program(script, argv, 0);
+}
+
+/*
+ * create_resolve - create the replacement resolv.conf file
+ */
+static void
+create_resolv(peerdns1, peerdns2)
+    u_int32_t peerdns1, peerdns2;
+{
+    FILE *f;
+    f = fopen(_PATH_RESOLV, "w");
+    if (f == NULL) {
+	syslog(LOG_ERR, "Failed to create %s: %m", _PATH_RESOLV);
+	return;
+    }
+    
+    if (peerdns1)
+	fprintf(f, "\nnameserver %s\n", ip_ntoa(peerdns1));
+
+    if (peerdns2)
+	if (peerdns2 != peerdns1) /* if addresses are not same */
+	    fprintf(f, "nameserver %s\n", ip_ntoa(peerdns2));
+
+    if (ferror(f))
+	syslog(LOG_ERR, "Write failed to %s: %m", _PATH_RESOLV);
+
+    fclose(f);
 }
 
 /*
--- ../pppd.orig/ipcp.h	Sat Aug 28 05:19:03 1999
+++ ipcp.h	Sun Jan 21 04:28:26 2001
@@ -46,6 +46,8 @@
     int neg_addr : 1;		/* Negotiate IP Address? */
     int old_addrs : 1;		/* Use old (IP-Addresses) option? */
     int req_addr : 1;		/* Ask peer to send IP address? */
+    int req_dns1 : 1;		/* Ask peer to send DNS1 address? */
+    int req_dns2 : 1;		/* Ask peer to send DNS2 address? */
     int default_route : 1;	/* Assign default route through interface? */
     int proxy_arp : 1;		/* Make proxy ARP entry for peer? */
     int neg_vj : 1;		/* Van Jacobson Compression? */
--- ../pppd.orig/options.c	Sat Aug 28 05:19:07 1999
+++ options.c	Sun Jan 21 04:28:26 2001
@@ -113,6 +113,8 @@
 int	holdoff = 30;		/* # seconds to pause before reconnecting */
 int	refuse_pap = 0;		/* Set to say we won't do PAP */
 int	refuse_chap = 0;	/* Set to say we won't do CHAP */
+int	hide_password = 0;	/* Hide password in log */
+int	update_resolv = 0;	/* Update resolv.conf */
 
 #ifdef MSLANMAN
 int	ms_lanman = 0;    	/* Nonzero if use LanMan password instead of NT */
@@ -230,6 +232,9 @@
 static int setwinsaddr __P((char **));
 static int showversion __P((char **));
 static int showhelp __P((char **));
+static int usepeerdns __P((char **));
+static int hide_pass __P((char **));
+static int resolv_update __P((char **));
 
 #ifdef PPP_FILTER
 static int setpdebug __P((char **));
@@ -387,6 +392,9 @@
 /* end compat hack */
     {"ms-dns", 1, setdnsaddr},		/* DNS address for the peer's use */
     {"ms-wins", 1, setwinsaddr},	/* Nameserver for SMB over TCP/IP for peer */
+    {"usepeerdns",0, usepeerdns},	/* Ask peer for DNS addrs */
+    {"hide-password",0, hide_pass},	/* Hide password in log */
+    {"update-resolv",0,resolv_update}, /* Update resolv.conf */
     {"noipx",  0, resetipxproto},	/* Disable IPXCP (and IPX) */
     {"-ipx",   0, resetipxproto},	/* Disable IPXCP (and IPX) */
     {"--version", 0, showversion},	/* Show version number */
@@ -1978,6 +1986,31 @@
 {
     ipcp_allowoptions[0].default_route = 0;
     ipcp_wantoptions[0].default_route = 0;
+    return 1;
+}
+
+static int
+usepeerdns(argv)
+    char **argv;
+{
+    ipcp_wantoptions[0].req_dns1 = 1;
+    ipcp_wantoptions[0].req_dns2 = 1;
+    return 1;
+}
+
+static int
+hide_pass(argv)
+    char **argv;
+{
+    hide_password = 1;
+    return 1;
+}
+
+static int
+resolv_update(argv)
+    char **argv;
+{
+    update_resolv = 1;
     return 1;
 }
 
--- ../pppd.orig/pathnames.h	Sat Aug 28 05:19:07 1999
+++ pathnames.h	Sun Jan 21 04:28:26 2001
@@ -25,6 +25,7 @@
 #define _PATH_PEERFILES	"/etc/ppp/peers/"
 #define _PATH_PPPDENY  "/etc/ppp/ppp.deny"
 #define _PATH_PPPSHELLS	"/etc/ppp/ppp.shells"
+#define _PATH_RESOLV	"/etc/resolv.conf"
 
 #ifdef IPX_CHANGE
 #define _PATH_IPXUP	"/etc/ppp/ipx-up"
--- ../pppd.orig/pppd.8	Fri Mar  3 12:11:26 2000
+++ pppd.8	Sun Jan 21 04:28:26 2001
@@ -49,7 +49,7 @@
 .B active-filter \fIfilter-expression
 Specifies a packet filter to be applied to data packets to determine
 which packets are to be regarded as link activity, and therefore reset
-the idle timer, or cause the link to be brought up in demand-dialling
+the idle timer, or cause the link to be brought up in demand-dialing
 mode.  This option is useful in conjunction with the
 \fBidle\fR option if there are packets being sent or received
 regularly over the link (for example, routing information packets)
@@ -459,6 +459,17 @@
 instance of this option specifies the primary WINS address; the second
 instance (if given) specifies the secondary WINS address.
 .TP
+.B usepeerdns
+Ask the peer for up to 2 DNS server addresses.  The addresses supplied
+by the peer (if any) are passed to the /etc/ppp/ip-up script in the
+environment variables DNS1 and DNS2.
+.TP
+.B update-resolv
+The /etc/resolv.conf will be updated with the DNS addresses supplied
+by the peer (if any). But environment variables DNS1 and DNS2 are
+still available. This option is work in conjunction with the
+\fBusepeerdns\fR option only.
+.TP
 .B name \fIname
 Set the name of the local system for authentication purposes to
 \fIname\fR.  This is a privileged option.  With this option, pppd will
@@ -649,6 +660,10 @@
 .B user \fIname
 Sets the name used for authenticating the local system to the peer to
 \fIname\fR.
+.TP
+.B hide-password
+When logging the contents of PAP packets, this option causes pppd to
+exclude the password string from the log.
 .TP
 .B vj-max-slots \fIn
 Sets the number of connection slots to be used by the Van Jacobson
--- ../pppd.orig/pppd.h	Sat Aug 28 05:19:08 1999
+++ pppd.h	Sun Jan 21 04:28:26 2001
@@ -110,6 +110,8 @@
 extern int	holdoff;	/* Dead time before restarting */
 extern int	refuse_pap;	/* Don't wanna auth. ourselves with PAP */
 extern int	refuse_chap;	/* Don't wanna auth. ourselves with CHAP */
+extern int	hide_password;	/* Hide password in log */
+extern int	update_resolv;	/* Update resolv.conf */
 #ifdef PPP_FILTER
 extern struct	bpf_program pass_filter;   /* Filter for pkts to pass */
 extern struct	bpf_program active_filter; /* Filter for link-active pkts */
--- ../pppd.orig/upap.c	Sat Aug 28 05:19:08 1999
+++ upap.c	Sun Jan 21 04:28:26 2001
@@ -591,7 +591,10 @@
 	printer(arg, " user=");
 	print_string(user, ulen, printer, arg);
 	printer(arg, " password=");
-	print_string(pwd, wlen, printer, arg);
+	if (!hide_password)
+	    print_string(pwd, wlen, printer, arg);
+	else
+	    printer(arg, "\"********\"");
 	break;
     case UPAP_AUTHACK:
     case UPAP_AUTHNAK:

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Since I havent gotten any responses to my first 2 emails maybe I'll try to ask it a different way.

Using ppp I try to dial into my ISP, it's able to dial in easy enough but shortly thereafter it fails.  Checking the /usr/var/log/ppp.log file shows that a 'TIMEOUT' was 'expected, telling me it's a chat script failure.

I have a timeout in my default definition of my ppp.conf file and I tried adding and changing 'set timeout' to no avail.  
In term mode I can succesfully get some kind of response from the server I'm dialing into.
I can accomplish this part by exiting term with ~p.  However using this procecdure it tells me that my computer is sending empty authuser, after a few lines of 'MAGIC NUMBER' and things like that nature.
I can see this by tail -f /var/log/ppp.log, it scrolls through with all sorts of info.
I have set authuser and set auth(the password one) setup in my ppp.conf file.
Then it follows by telling me 'unable to access ppp.secrets'.  I didnt have one so I set it up, but still it failed, except when I setup ppp.secrets it was'nt explicit as to why it had failed.  
Anyway what I'm really looking for is some help on being able to decipher exactly where my chat script is failing.  I have the set log lcp (etc)..... set in my ppp.conf file but it so far doesnt show me enough for me to understand where I'm going wrong.
I've tried many different combination's and am starting to belive that my ISP has an unconventional PAP autentication procedure.  If anyone can be kind enough to tell me if there is anyway to actually see what the converstation looks like between my computer and the server I would appreciate it.  If the answer is right in front of me (i.e by looking into /var/log/ppp.conf file) I would appreciate it if someone would point out how or where I can go to figure out how to understand it.
I've been dialing my ISP numerous times and fear I'm running up an enormous phone bill.

Thanks,
Steve M




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From: Edwin Groothuis <mavetju@chello.nl>
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:09:36PM +0300, oRb wrote:
> I've modifyed the source of pppd-2.3.5 and made 3 new options(i think it will
> be usefull):

cool! You should do it fyi via send-pr, then it will come in the
bugs-database. The person who is responsible for pppd will either
contact you or you should inform him about the pr-number (which is
emailed to you) [my experiences are that contacting the person is
giving a better response than waiting for them to come to you :-]

Edwin

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Jim Mock wrote:

> > Thanks for your help, but i think that it does not solve the problem.
> >
> > DEP_EXT = FCGI_IO
> >
> > FCGI_IO ?= /usr/local/include
> >
> > main :
> > .for _DEP_EXT in ${DEP_EXT}
> > .if (${_DEP_EXT} == FCGI_IO)
> >         echo ${_DEP_EXT}
> > .endif
> > .endfor
> >
> > And now:
> >
> > grios@etosha$ make
> > "Makefile", line 1: Malformed conditional ((FCGI_IO == FCGI_IO))
> > "Makefile", line 1: Missing dependency operator
> 
> Erm, read this and then look at your first line.  Do you see the
> difference?
> 
> - jim

Sorry gentleman,

But this is my first time using make, so i have no ideia about the
problem,
May you give the solution.


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On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:14, Domain Administrator wrote:
> I now this is not the right place to post it but i know how smart the
> people are on this list and feel i can get an answer!
>
> I have a CTREE database file, i think CTREE is created with C++ libs but im
> not sure. I have a Database in ctree and it consists of two files:
>
> -rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    238167118 Jan 21 10:17 users.dat
> -rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    10354688 Jan 21 10:17 users.idx
>
> Now, when i run 'file <filename>' it just reports the file as being data so
> i assume that this type of database file is hardly ever used or not just
> commonplace.
>
> # file users.dat
> users.dat:      data
> # file users.idx
> users.idx:      data
>
> Does anyone know how i can get support for this on my freebsd box so i can
> somehow convert this database file into an ascii, comma delimited text file
> and into something more common.
>
> Thanks in advance for the help.
>

Faircom sell a freebsd version of ctree ;-)


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    I have a  Windows 98  system with a large  hard-drive  (its geometry is 
1869 cylinders/255 heads/63 sectors); I am keeping the  Windows 98  system 
on the drive in the first partition/slice (about  3G  big) and I have loaded 
  FreeBSD  into the next three slices (each at least 1.5G ).  I have loaded  
4.2  into  F2  and  4.1  &  3.3  into the other two slices (with no error 
messages [that I could see, is there any file for system-load error 
messages?]).  I can load & run  4.2  (from  F2 ), whenever I try  4.1  &  
3.3  (from  F3  &  F4 ), I get the message(s) "Invalid partition" and 
(sometimes also) "No /boot/loader".  Previously I have loaded  3.3  into the 
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is there any configuration/customization required (e.g., placing the 
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Yes, but you forget that a lot of people still have dialups. Also, once you
have Version X installed, you don't usually need EVERYTHING from the next
version. You can update your system using CVSup or something similar.

There are also ISO images of the CD Rom that you can download too.........

Carl Speare wrote:

> With the advent of DSL and such, wouldn't it make sense to also have a
> tar/gzip of the full releases?
>
> For example, it would be nice to be able to download freebsd-4.2.tar.gz
> in one huge shot, instead of having to recurse through numerous
> directories with wget or such in order to download the latest version.
>
> (Though I also do buy regular versions, and am a supporting member...)
>
> --Carl
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Hi Ben

Have a look at

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/x11.html

Dan

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    how to go into
BSD ROOT, I WANT TO ACTIVATE
THE XWINDOWS TO WORK, BUT
DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, CAN Tell
me step by step, thanks
    when open the pc, a sign of
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this bother me long time
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On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> > I've got a brand new installation of 4.2-RELEASE running on a system, and
> > am trying to upgrade it to 4.2-STABLE.  I used cvsup to download the
> > source, and after almost 7 hours of compiling (ouch!  Pentium 166), make
> > buildworld dies with the following:
>
> Don't post build logs from make world -j<#> as the actual error may be
> hundreds of lines back in the output, since make only errors out once
> all pending jobs have exited.
>
> Do a 'make world' with no -j and there should be an obvious error
> right at the end.

I didn't use any options on my "make buildworld" command line at all.  I
scrolled back quite a ways, though, and I didn't see any obvious errors
other than the "Error code 126" at the end.  Perhaps there's a -j
somewhere in the Makefile?  I'm not much of a programmer, so editing
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Hello

I have the latest ProFTPD port. Im wondering how I can make it so that
users in the root group can FTP into my system. But I dont want root to
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On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 01:19:17PM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > I think this is a BIOS issue.  I don't think any BIOS will let you
> > boot from arbitrarily-formatted floppies :)
> 
> the 1480 format works.

Have you got this working now - or was it the larger size that didn't
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On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:48, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios <gustavo@ifour.com.br> types:
> > I compiled and executed a small program and it's eating about 336
> > of real memory (rss) and 840 of virtual size memory (vsz), may some
> > one explain why a simple program eats about 1 MB of memory?
>
> You linked it shared, right? That 1MB includes all of every shared
> library it uses, whether it uses those functions or not.

Pardon ! It certainly does not ! That is the point of shared libraries -
the code is *shared* between processes using it. The required code is
then made dynamically available.


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On Sunday 21 January 2001 18:12, Steve M wrote:
> Since I havent gotten any responses to my first 2 emails maybe I'll
> try to ask it a different way.
>
> Using ppp I try to dial into my ISP, it's able to dial in easy enough
> but shortly thereafter it fails.  Checking the /usr/var/log/ppp.log
> file shows that a 'TIMEOUT' was 'expected, telling me it's a chat
> script failure.
>
> I have a timeout in my default definition of my ppp.conf file and I
> tried adding and changing 'set timeout' to no avail. In term mode I
> can succesfully get some kind of response from the server I'm dialing
> into. I can accomplish this part by exiting term with ~p.  However
> using this procecdure it tells me that my computer is sending empty
> authuser, after a few lines of 'MAGIC NUMBER' and things like that
> nature. I can see this by tail -f /var/log/ppp.log, it scrolls
> through with all sorts of info. I have set authuser and set auth(the
> password one) setup in my ppp.conf file. Then it follows by telling
> me 'unable to access ppp.secrets'.  I didnt have one so I set it up,
> but still it failed, except when I setup ppp.secrets it was'nt
> explicit as to why it had failed. Anyway what I'm really looking for
> is some help on being able to decipher exactly where my chat script
> is failing.  I have the set log lcp (etc)..... set in my ppp.conf
> file but it so far doesnt show me enough for me to understand where
> I'm going wrong. I've tried many different combination's and am
> starting to belive that my ISP has an unconventional PAP
> autentication procedure.  If anyone can be kind enough to tell me if
> there is anyway to actually see what the converstation looks like
> between my computer and the server I would appreciate it.  If the
> answer is right in front of me (i.e by looking into /var/log/ppp.conf
> file) I would appreciate it if someone would point out how or where I
> can go to figure out how to understand it. I've been dialing my ISP
> numerous times and fear I'm running up an enormous phone bill.
>
Hello
Well to see what the dialog between you and your ISP looks like
use "minicom" to do a terminal emulator type connection.
When I do this..I get a prompt for login, password and protocol.
That helps with that part.

"authuser" are you sure you shouldnt be using "authname"
My ppp.conf has:


set phone 12345678
set authname baggins
set authkey bagend


(all name are fake of course :)

Cliff












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In my efforts to avoid Windoz permanently, I'm installing some of the
tools which replace what I used to use there.
I don't quite get the audio setup.  What do I have to do to install
audio support (speakers work, play CDs, play mpegs)?


I'm running FreeBSD 4-2 and have a Soundblaster 16 card.

Thanks!
-Brian


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Have a look at

http://www.defcon1.org/html/Hardware_Articles/OpenSSH/Hardware/File-Sy
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In my efforts to avoid Windoz permanently, I'm installing some of the
tools which replace what I used to use there.
I don't quite get the audio setup.  What do I have to do to install
audio support (speakers work, play CDs, play mpegs)?


I'm running FreeBSD 4-2 and have a Soundblaster 16 card.

Thanks!
- -Brian


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On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Corvette wrote:

> Hi,
> Does anyone know where this link http://www.clark.net/pub/mjr/pubs/fwfaq/
> moved to. I followed it with intent to see a few things about FIREWALLS
> but seems it's gone. Or maybe someone knows other links other than those I
> have in my box (man pages) ;-)

It's moved to:

http://www.interhack.net/pubs/fwfaq/

Can you tell it's required reading in my classroom?

Cheers,

Dru



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Hi James,

You may find the ISDN and PPP articles at the following link helpful:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/index.htm

They're fairly technical, but may provide the missing bit of info you're
looking for. BTW, all articles at that link make very good reading and can
be downloaded in PDF format.

Cheers,

Dru


On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, James Wilde wrote:

> I'd appreciate being allowed to tax the accumulated experience and knowledge
> with the following question.
> 
> My company has a modem pool which accepts incoming calls from both analog
> and ISDN modems.  I have a D-Link router behind my ISDN box but no ISDN
> modem.  I would like to be able to call the modem pool and connect into our
> network.  However it doesn't work with a simple dial-up by the router onto
> the network.
> 
> Now I know the experts are probably rolling about on the floor laughing at
> this point, but I would like to know what it is that prevents this kind of
> contact from working, and whether there is a software solution available.
> 
> As I see it, ISDN is merely a carrier, just like the analog lines, and I
> can't see that an ISDN modem is going to transmit the information by sending
> beeps at 900 hz and 1.3 khz, or whatever the frequencies are, as the analog
> lines do.  I am assuming that an ISDN modem converts the digital TCP/IP
> packets coming from the computer to another digital format for ISDN
> transmission, whereupon some part of the modem pool at the other end
> converts the ISDN signals back into TCP/IP.
> 
> Thanks for any direct or indirect (e.g. URLs) help with this one, which has
> been puzzling me for a while.
> 
> mvh/regards
> 
> James
> 
> 
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I have some homework files I have been working
on, and for some reason they now have an asterisk
by the name, and I cannot edit them. What could 
have caused this?

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Hey folks!

Is there a way to non-destructively resize partitions in FreeBSD?

When I was a Linux user, there was a program called fips, but I'm not
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Any info would be appreciated!

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Chip wrote:

> I have some homework files I have been working
> on, and for some reason they now have an asterisk
> by the name, and I cannot edit them. What could 
> have caused this?

What does an "ls -lF" of the directory these files live in say?

Dru



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Hi All

Do you by any chance have any bitmaps images of you devil logo which i can
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> I have some homework files I have been working
> on, and for some reason they now have an asterisk
> by the name, and I cannot edit them. What could
> have caused this?

try using a backslash before the asterisk (or any other dodgy character such
as a space). Eg if the file name is "test* file", then you should use

command test\*\ file

NOT

command test* file

Hope this helps

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On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:21:24AM -0600, Drew Sanford wrote:
> I'm trying to set up a printer on 4.2-stable and running into some 
> problems. I looked at the handbook, and figured that sensably enough, 
> the first thing to do was to try lptest > lpt0 to see if everything was 
> talking nicely. After a second or 5, it printed one line of the ascii 
> charactor set across the top of the page (from ! to o) and then a " at 
> the righthand end of the next line, then ejected that sheet of paper, 
> loaded another, and sat there. The trouble shooting section of the 
> handbook doesn't appear to deal with this situation.

This sounds like the common staircasing effect. You need a linefeed
converter filter for this queue. Create a script like this:

	#!/bin/sh
	#
	#	Add a \r to each line
	#
	awk '{ print $0,"\r"; }'

and add an entry to this script file in /etc/printcap, eg:

	if=/path/to/the/script/file

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I'm looking at making my own prompt for bash and
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  local COLOR2="\[\033[1;36m\]"
  local COLOR3="\[\033[1;30m\]"
  local COLOR4="\[\033[0m\]"

Where exactly is the color information? Is there
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hello,

I'm running 4.2-Release and my machine will crash sometimes for no apparent 
reason.
The last time this happened I recompiled my kernel with:
makeoptions     DEBUG=-g
And added dumpdev="/dev/ad0s1b" to my rc.conf

Last night my machine rebooted again so I decided to try some kernel 
debugging.

The first thing I noticed is that I couldn't find kernel.debug, which I 
thought was supposed to be created for me.
So I ran the following commands & got this error:

# cp kernel kernel.debug
# strip -g kernel
/usr/libexec/elf/strip: kernel: rename: Operation not permitted

I figured it was some permission error and didn't worry about it.
Next I went to my kernel compile directory and ran:

# gdb -k
(kgdb) symbol-file /kernel.debug
Reading symbols from /kernel.debug...(no debugging symbols found)...done.

I thought the above error was strange, but since I don't know what I'm doing I 
continued with:

(kgdb) exec-file /var/crash/kernel.0 
(kgdb) core-file /var/crash/vmcore.0

And got the following output:

IdlePTD 3235840
initial pcb at 298c40
panicstr: ffs_fsync: not dirty
panic messages:
---
panic: ffs_fsync: not dirty

syncing disks... 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 
giving up on 88 buffers
Uptime: 4d14h31m58s

dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 327680
dump ata0: resetting devices .. done
96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 
70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 
44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 
18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 
---
#0  0xc013c2ba in dumpsys ()


Can anyone give some insight into what's going on here?
Thanks...

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> On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 01:19:17PM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > > I think this is a BIOS issue.  I don't think any BIOS will let you
> > > boot from arbitrarily-formatted floppies :)
> > 
> > the 1480 format works.
> 
> Have you got this working now - or was it the larger size that didn't
> work?

1480 always worked for me on the system i tried -- except on vmware.
i it was the 1720k format where i had problems which i could not
solve despite a number of different attempts at telling the
bios that i was using 21 sectors/track.

	cheers
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 02:38:24PM +0100, Ron Klinkien wrote:
> Since yesterday building my man pages db fails when
> doing an make world:
> --------snip---------
> ===> etc
> ===> etc/sendmail
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Rebuilding man page indices
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> cd /usr/src/share/man; make makedb
> makewhatis /usr/share/man
> gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
> gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
> gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
> gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
> gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
> gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
> ...
> ...
> gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
> rm -rf /tmp/install.93065
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> elf make world completed on Sun Jan 21 14:33:59 CET 2001
>                        (started Sun Jan 21 12:24:04 CET 2001)
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> I did an cvsup and a new make -j 3 world, to no avail...
> 
> There is enough diskspace...and gzcat is working fine...
> uname -a
> FreeBSD bsdserver.smalweer.nl 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #3: Sat Jan 20
> 01:32:36 CET 2001
> root@bsdserver.smalweer.nl:/usr/src/sys/compile/BSDSERVER  i386

Are you ssh'ing into this machine to do the installworld? It looks
like this is some really weird OpenSSH problem. I got around it by
running the install as a batch job,

  # batch
  cd /usr/src &&
  make installworld
  ^D

And it ran fine. Look in the -stable list archive for a few mails on
this earlier this week for more information.
-- 
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To: Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net>
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 09:05:47PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:48, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios <gustavo@ifour.com.br> types:
> > > I compiled and executed a small program and it's eating about 336
> > > of real memory (rss) and 840 of virtual size memory (vsz), may some
> > > one explain why a simple program eats about 1 MB of memory?
> >
> > You linked it shared, right? That 1MB includes all of every shared
> > library it uses, whether it uses those functions or not.
> 
> Pardon ! It certainly does not ! That is the point of shared libraries -
> the code is *shared* between processes using it. The required code is
> then made dynamically available.

The purpose of shared libraries is to share _disk_ space, not memory
space.

It's an easy enough test. Take the original little program,

  $ cat > sizetest.c <<EOF
  #include <stdio.h>
  #include <stdlib.h>
  int main() {
    sleep(300);
    return 0;
  }
  EOF
  $ cc -o sizetest sizetest.c 
  $ cc -static -o sizetest_s sizetest.c
  $ ls -l sizetest{,_s}
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 cjc  wheel  4380 Jan 21 15:17 sizetest
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 cjc  wheel  6947 Jan 21 15:17 sizetest_s
  $ ./sizetest & ./sizetest_s & sleep 10 ; ps aux | grep sizetest
  cjc     31567  0.0  0.2   840  272  p2  S     3:17PM   0:00.00 ./sizetest
  cjc     31568  0.0  0.0   136   20  p2  S     3:17PM   0:00.00 ./sizetest_s

The static one takes up less memory according to ps(1), but more
disk.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu


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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 05:36:41PM -0500, dfisher wrote:

> The first thing I noticed is that I couldn't find kernel.debug, which I=
=20
> thought was supposed to be created for me.

It is created in the kernel compile directory, but not installed on
the root partition since it is so much larger than the non-debug
kernel.

As long as you haven't built any new kernels since the one you are
booting from (which had the panic) - i.e. if the kernel.debug in
/usr/src/sys/compile/${KERNELNAME} corresponds to that kernel, then
you can use it for debugging.

You should have more luck using this one.

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> On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 02:38:24PM +0100, Ron Klinkien wrote:
> > Since yesterday building my man pages db fails when
> > doing an make world:
> > --------snip---------
> > ===> etc
> > ===> etc/sendmail
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> Rebuilding man page indices
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > cd /usr/src/share/man; make makedb
> > makewhatis /usr/share/man
> > gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
> > gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
> > gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
> > gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
> > gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
> > gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
> > ...
> > ...
> > gzcat: stdout: Broken pipe
> > rm -rf /tmp/install.93065
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> elf make world completed on Sun Jan 21 14:33:59 CET 2001
> >                        (started Sun Jan 21 12:24:04 CET 2001)
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I did an cvsup and a new make -j 3 world, to no avail...
> >
> > There is enough diskspace...and gzcat is working fine...
> > uname -a
> > FreeBSD bsdserver.smalweer.nl 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #3: Sat Jan
20
> > 01:32:36 CET 2001
> > root@bsdserver.smalweer.nl:/usr/src/sys/compile/BSDSERVER  i386
>
> Are you ssh'ing into this machine to do the installworld? It looks
> like this is some really weird OpenSSH problem. I got around it by
> running the install as a batch job,
>
>   # batch
>   cd /usr/src &&
>   make installworld
>   ^D
>
> And it ran fine. Look in the -stable list archive for a few mails on
> this earlier this week for more information.
> --
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu

Hmm yes I am... being secure and stuff ;)

That was the only thing I have changed this weekend, but
didn't guess it had something todo with that..

Will search the archive...

Regards,
Ron.






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Having read the documentation on UW imap server I understand that I
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The atomic-playboy.masterplan.org host used to provide a highly useful (IMO)
mail-to-news gateway for the FreeBSD mailing lists. Not so long ago, the host
has stopped responding. Is there someone who can sched some light on the hosts'
fate? Are there any other gateways providing the same service?


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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 04:12:40PM -0200, Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios wrote:
> Jim Mock wrote:
> 
> > > Thanks for your help, but i think that it does not solve the problem.
> > >
> > > DEP_EXT = FCGI_IO
> > >
> > > FCGI_IO ?= /usr/local/include
> > >
> > > main :
> > > .for _DEP_EXT in ${DEP_EXT}
> > > .if (${_DEP_EXT} == FCGI_IO)
> > >         echo ${_DEP_EXT}
> > > .endif
> > > .endfor
> > >
> > > And now:
> > >
> > > grios@etosha$ make
> > > "Makefile", line 1: Malformed conditional ((FCGI_IO == FCGI_IO))
> > > "Makefile", line 1: Missing dependency operator
> > 
> > Erm, read this and then look at your first line.  Do you see the
> > difference?
> > 
> > - jim
> 
> Sorry gentleman,
> 
> But this is my first time using make, so i have no ideia about the
> problem,
> May you give the solution.

What I think GVGCR is saying is why does the above fail when,

  DEP_EXT = FCGI_IO

  FCGI_IO ?= /usr/local/include

  main :
  #.for _DEP_EXT in ${DEP_EXT}
  #.if (${_DEP_EXT} == FCGI_IO)
  .if ${DEP_EXT} == FCGI_IO
	echo ${_DEP_EXT}
  .endif
  #.endfor

Would work more like he would expect.

I think understand what is happening. The ${_DEP_EXT} is getting
evaluated "too soon." I am not enough of a BSD-make guru to know
exactly how to handle this. I think,

  DEP_EXT = FCGI_IO

  FCGI_IO ?= /usr/local/include

  .for _DEP_EXT in ${DEP_EXT}
  HOLD=${_DEP_EXT}
  .if ${HOLD} == FCGI_IO
  main :
  	echo ${_DEP_EXT}
  .endif
  .endfor

Might be a klugy way to get around this. That is not well tested. Note
the move of the 'main :' target. That was not just for kicks.
-- 
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Julien P. wrote:
> What are the differences between those two OS ?

On your FreeBSD CD you should find a copy of 'The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg
Lehey.  This has a very good comparison chart.
There are other fine sources.

Basically, FreeBSD is Unix in everything but name (its a copyright problem that
prevents the use of the name Unix).
GNU/Linux is part of the Free Software Foundation's offering and its kernel is
derived from Minix by (primarily) Linus Torvalds who is the Linux kernel
coordinator.
FreeBSD has a Linux emulator, so most Linux programs can run on FreeBSD.  There
are many Unix-style programs that will run on FreeBSD but NOT on Linux.
There are many Linux distributions but only one FreeBSD.
Which distro of GNU/Linux you prefer or whether you choose FreeBSD depends on
your circumstances and your personal foibles.

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To: Arcady Genkin <antipode@thpoon.com>
Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: UW-IMAP server and secure authentication
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 06:27:24PM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> Having read the documentation on UW imap server I understand that I
> need to purchase an SSL certificate to use SSL build of the server.

Really?

> Is there any way I can implement secure authentication mechanism (just
> encrypted username and passwords) without having to buy the
> certificate?  If yes, will this mechanism be supported by popular
> MS-based mail readers?

I don't see why you can't use a self-signed cert. Provided you
distribute it securely (relative to what you are protecting and other
security measures), it is a fairly good solution.

I have never used SSL within UW IMAP. However, I set up a mailserver
which used stunnel (in the ports) to get SSL access to UW IMAP. Making
a self-signed cert with stunnel was painless and a reasonable solution
for that organization. Almost all of the users were using M$ Outlook
Express as a MUA. A few Netscape Messenger users. Neither had an
problems.  
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu


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>===== Original Message From Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG> =====
>On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 05:36:41PM -0500, dfisher wrote:
>
>> The first thing I noticed is that I couldn't find kernel.debug, which I
>> thought was supposed to be created for me.
>
>It is created in the kernel compile directory, but not installed on
>the root partition since it is so much larger than the non-debug
>kernel.
>
>As long as you haven't built any new kernels since the one you are
>booting from (which had the panic) - i.e. if the kernel.debug in
>/usr/src/sys/compile/${KERNELNAME} corresponds to that kernel, then
>you can use it for debugging.
>
>You should have more luck using this one.
>
>Kris

I installed the kernel with:
# make depend && make && make install && make clean

would the 'make clean' delete it?
because it is not there...
thanks...

--
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 06:49:03PM -0500, dfisher wrote:

> I installed the kernel with:
> # make depend && make && make install && make clean
>=20
> would the 'make clean' delete it?
> because it is not there...
> thanks...

Yes.

If you haven't updated the sources yet, you can just build another
one..if you have, you're SOL.

Kris

>=20
> --
> Daniel Fisher

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Didn't there use to be a FTP archive for ISO images for -CURRENT?

I don't have a machine to build -CURRENT on, but would like to play with
it a little bit.  I have been unsuccessful searching current.freebsd.org
and ftp.freebsd.org (which isn't responding from my location -- but ftp2
does, so thats ok).

Any help?




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can anyone out there tell me if there are plans in the upcoming 5.0 to
effectivly update the current packages
being used ie like RPM but in a more stable and reliable manner??
thanks in advance.
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                                      Mike Keener WB6IIK



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> Didn't there use to be a FTP archive for ISO images for -CURRENT?
>
> I don't have a machine to build -CURRENT on, but would like to play with
> it a little bit.  I have been unsuccessful searching current.freebsd.org
> and ftp.freebsd.org (which isn't responding from my location -- but ftp2
> does, so thats ok).

ISOs of current ?  You're high.  It takes too long to make and current is
changing too often for it to be worth doing.




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Taking into consideration that my router has now had far too much
uptime/been working too long, i thought it was about time i start fiddling
with it (in the sadistic hope that i might break it and have to spend time
fixing it - weekends are very dull when things actually work).

I decided to recompile the kernel with sound support, as the machine has no
monitor or internal speaker and hence no real way of attracting my
attention. Whilst following the directions in the handbook on page
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/x8611.html I found the following line under
settings to SB compatible ISA non PnP cards:

device sbc0 at isa? port0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15

Surely this should be:

device sbc0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15

? I tried it with the first just incase, but got a syntax error. Anyway, I
recompiled following the instructions in the handbook, but once the new
kernel was loaded and i did "dmesg | grep pcm" i got no output. There were
no errors during compilation (other than the normal warnings). In my dmesg
output there is the following lines:

unknown1: <AUDIO> at port 0x220-0x22f,0x388-0x38f,0x534-0x537 irq 5 drq 1,3
on isa0
unknown2: <MPU401 MIDI> at port 0x330-0x331 irq 9 on isa0

can anyone suggest what options to use in my kernel config file in order to
get the card working? I am pretty sure it is a SB16 compatible (if not a
real one).

Thanks

Steven



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> > Didn't there use to be a FTP archive for ISO images for -CURRENT?

http://current.jp.freebsd.org/


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Okay, so I must be missing something...

Why does the following :-

>> Attempting to fetch from 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/sobomax/.
fetch: galeon-0.8.4.tar.gz: Operation timed out                             
                                                                            
reproducibly put the following line in my *firewall* log.

ICQ: Unknown version (27129)

Urgle....  I could undrstand some sort of accept or deny message in my log, 
but just that bald ICQ statement in the firewall log?  What gives?

Geoff
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cTree is indeed a Faircom product.
Check http://www.faircom.com/
We actually do use cTree for file indexing under FreeBSD as well as 
other platforms.

Jan



Mark Rowlands wrote:

> On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:14, Domain Administrator wrote:
> 
>> I now this is not the right place to post it but i know how smart the
>> people are on this list and feel i can get an answer!
>> 
>> I have a CTREE database file, i think CTREE is created with C++ libs but im
>> not sure. I have a Database in ctree and it consists of two files:
>> 
>> -rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    238167118 Jan 21 10:17 users.dat
>> -rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    10354688 Jan 21 10:17 users.idx
>> 
>> Now, when i run 'file <filename>' it just reports the file as being data so
>> i assume that this type of database file is hardly ever used or not just
>> commonplace.
>> 
>> # file users.dat
>> users.dat:      data
>> # file users.idx
>> users.idx:      data
>> 
>> Does anyone know how i can get support for this on my freebsd box so i can
>> somehow convert this database file into an ascii, comma delimited text file
>> and into something more common.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for the help.
>> 
> 
> Faircom sell a freebsd version of ctree ;-)
> 
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<html><head></head><body>cTree is indeed a Faircom product.<br>
Check <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.faircom.com/">http://www.faircom.com/</a><br>
We actually do use cTree for file indexing under FreeBSD as well as other platforms.<br>
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Jan<br>
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Mark Rowlands wrote:<br>
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  <blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">I now this is not the right place to post it but i know how smart the<br>people are on this list and feel i can get an answer!<br><br>I have a CTREE database file, i think CTREE is created with C++ libs but im<br>not sure. I have a Database in ctree and it consists of two files:<br><br>-rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    238167118 Jan 21 10:17 users.dat<br>-rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    10354688 Jan 21 10:17 users.idx<br><br>Now, when i run 'file &lt;filename&gt;' it just reports the file as being data so<br>i assume that this type of database file is hardly ever used or not just<br>commonplace.<br><br># file users.dat<br>users.dat:      data<br># file users.idx<br>users.idx:      data<br><br>Does anyone know how i can get support for this on my freebsd box so i can<br>somehow convert this database file into an ascii, comma delimited text file<br>and into something more common.<br><br>Thanks in advance for the help.<br><br></pre></blockquote>
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Check proftpd.net for the proftpd maillist.
proftpd is not something that comes FreeBSD, but probably is something 
in the ports.
There is a quite extensive document that comes with proftpd on how to 
set it up.
Also, withouit an config example of what you are doing it's kinda hard 
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you mean by 'root' group.

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hey guys how is everyone?

ok here we go, i have just installed a us robotics externel modem, now i know 
to setup ppp i have to figure out what serial port this modem is running on, 
but unfortunatley i have no way of doing this (that i know of) how can i find 
this out? i can do it on my own from there (i think)


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I hadn't had need to use the cdrom since early December, so I was surprised
when I tried to mount a cdrom and got the error message "cd9660: device
busy." I had a lot of trouble with the cdrom not being detected under
4-STABLE, so have stuck with 4.1-RELEASE. The cdrom was working fine and I
don't know of anything that's changed.

The cdrom is used as an NFS filesystem by another server, but is not
automatically mounted -- it is currently *not* mounted on the other system.
Mountd is running.

I have the following line in /etc/fstab:
	/dev/acd0c              /cdrom          cd9660  ro,noauto       0       0

From dmesg:
	acd0: CDROM <CD-ROM Philips PCA402CDA> at ata0-slave using PIO4

I've tried the commands 
mount /cdrom
mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom

All with the same result: device busy.

I tried going to /dev and rm acd*, followed by ./MAKEDEV acd*

Is there a utility which will identify which processes are using which
files/devices? I ran across a posting in Deja News that Sun has a utility
called fuser that does this, but it doesn't exist (at least under that
name) in FreeBSD.

Cand anyone suggest other troubleshooting steps I might take, or any
tutorial which discusses possible causes of obscure error messages?


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With most computers they are marked .... if you've got one 9 pin & one 21
pin serial port the 9 pin one is invariably COM1 (cuaa0)

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> hey guys how is everyone?
>
> ok here we go, i have just installed a us robotics externel modem, now i
know
> to setup ppp i have to figure out what serial port this modem is running
on,
> but unfortunatley i have no way of doing this (that i know of) how can i
find
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 03:22:46PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote:

> The purpose of shared libraries is to share _disk_ space, not memory
> space.

No, I believe he is correct. If you have two shared programs in
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 03:54:33PM -0800, Michael Keener wrote:
> can anyone out there tell me if there are plans in the upcoming 5.0 to
> effectivly update the current packages

There are preliminary scratchings, but who knows when the code will
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I ran ls -lF and got the class assignment files listed
with the asterisk, owned by myself (not root).
I then ran ls -lf and got a similar listing but the files
in question do not have the asterisk.
I ran ll and got a listing that was the same as running
ls -lF except the files in question did not have the
asterisks.
In the man page, ls(1), an asterisk means that the file
is executable. How does a .html file, or a .gif file, 
get the executable attribute? Could it be because I first 
created some of these as root on a floppy, then copied them
to my user directory? Since I was not able to work on them
as a user, I chmod 777 the files so I could work on them. 
That may be where the executable flag comes from? I was 
not able to work on the floppy as a user, only as root.

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> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Chip wrote:
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> > I have some homework files I have been working
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> > by the name, and I cannot edit them. What could
> > have caused this?
> 
> What does an "ls -lF" of the directory these files live in say?
> 
> Dru

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Chip wrote:

> I ran ls -lF and got the class assignment files listed
> with the asterisk, owned by myself (not root).
> I then ran ls -lf and got a similar listing but the files
> in question do not have the asterisk.
> I ran ll and got a listing that was the same as running
> ls -lF except the files in question did not have the
> asterisks.
> In the man page, ls(1), an asterisk means that the file
> is executable. How does a .html file, or a .gif file, 
> get the executable attribute? Could it be because I first 
> created some of these as root on a floppy, then copied them
> to my user directory? Since I was not able to work on them
> as a user, I chmod 777 the files so I could work on them. 
> That may be where the executable flag comes from? I was 
> not able to work on the floppy as a user, only as root.

I've had this problem before when copying files back and forth to
floppies; I find it strange that they weren't owned by root.

However, if I use mtools or mfm, I don't have these problems as I can 
transfer files back and forth between my home directory and a floppy
without having to become root to mount the floppy first. You can find a
tutorial on using these tools at:

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/12/13/FreeBSD_Basics.html

Cheers,

Dru




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On Sunday, 21 January 2001 at 16:15:53 -0500, Mark B. Withers wrote:
> Hey folks!
>
> Is there a way to non-destructively resize partitions in FreeBSD?

Yes.

> When I was a Linux user, there was a program called fips, but I'm
> not sure that it will work with a "dangerously-dedicated" FreeBSD
> machine.

FIPS is a Microsoft domain program for resizing Microsoft file
systems.  It won't work with FreeBSD, or Linux for that matter.

The correct tool on a dedicated system is disklabel(8).  You can
increase the size of a partition without problems, but you can't
shrink or move a file system partition without destroying the data.
If you increase the size of a file system partition, you then need to
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Subject: Re: firewall, fetch and ICQ?
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 11:26:10AM +1100, Zero Sum wrote:
> 
> Okay, so I must be missing something...
> 
> Why does the following :-
> 
> >> Attempting to fetch from 
> ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/sobomax/.
> fetch: galeon-0.8.4.tar.gz: Operation timed out                             
>                                                                             
> reproducibly put the following line in my *firewall* log.
> 
> ICQ: Unknown version (27129)
> 
> Urgle....  I could undrstand some sort of accept or deny message in my log, 
> but just that bald ICQ statement in the firewall log?  What gives?

I've only seen that from Ethereal. That's really in your firewall log?
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"Crist J. Clark" <cjclark@reflexnet.net> writes:

> I don't see why you can't use a self-signed cert. Provided you
> distribute it securely (relative to what you are protecting and other
> security measures), it is a fairly good solution.

I basically want to disable any ways of connecting to my computer with
user names/passwords sent in clear text.  What do you mean by
"distribute it securely"?

> I have never used SSL within UW IMAP. However, I set up a mailserver
> which used stunnel (in the ports) to get SSL access to UW IMAP. Making
> a self-signed cert with stunnel was painless and a reasonable solution
> for that organization. 

This is great!  I just installed stunnel and had imapd and ipop3d
working with it in no time.  I'm using the scurity certificate
generated by "make cert".  Thanks a lot, Christ!

> Almost all of the users were using M$ Outlook Express as a MUA. A
> few Netscape Messenger users. Neither had an problems.

I just had a MS Outlook Express user confirm successful POP3 retrieval
over SSL.  I'm happy.  The only thing that's bothering me is your
phrase about distributing the certificate: I did not send the user
anything, he was just able to connect by changing mail server
configuration in his mailer.  Was the connection secure in this case?

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On Monday 22 January 2001 12:22, Crist J. Clark wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 11:26:10AM +1100, Zero Sum wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, so I must be missing something...
>> 
>> Why does the following :-
>> 
>> >> Attempting to fetch from 
>> ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/sobomax/.
>> fetch: galeon-0.8.4.tar.gz: Operation timed out                          
   
>>                                                                          
   
>> reproducibly put the following line in my *firewall* log.
>> 
>> ICQ: Unknown version (27129)
>> 
>> Urgle....  I could undrstand some sort of accept or deny message in my 
log, 
>> but just that bald ICQ statement in the firewall log?  What gives?
>
>I've only seen that from Ethereal. That's really in your firewall log?


I was tailing /var/log/security.  I was incorrect, it does not appear in 
the log, just on the screen - an xterm.  grep reveals no ICQ in any log file

So it is not "in the firewall log" - my stupid mistake.  However, I can't 
figure out where it comes from as it appears on the single xterm that I use 
to tail my logs.  It is not (apparently) a console message as it is not in 
/var/log/messages.

Geoff
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Hello,

I have a small network set up at my apartment with my freebsd machine 
providing DHCP, DNS and NAT to the machines in the apartment. Whenever one
of these machines attempts to obtain a DHCP lease it is successful, however
I get error messages logged by syslog of the following type:

dhcpd: if IN A  doesn't exist add 21600 IN A  192.168.0.2: resolver failed.

Occasionally I get another message complaining of an invalid domain.

I'm sure that I just have something misconfigured, but I don't know for sure
what it is. I was hoping someone else might.

Information that may be useful:

I am providing secondary DNS service for a domain.
I have a 'fake' i.e. unregistered domain for internal hosts.
I have not done anything to try and have DHCPd auto-update the DNS.

I can forward copies of my config files on demand.

I have looked a little in the mail archives but didn't find anything I 
thought was an answer.

Thanks in advance if someone can help me out.

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 12:43:37PM +1100, Zero Sum wrote:
> On Monday 22 January 2001 12:22, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> >On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 11:26:10AM +1100, Zero Sum wrote:
> >> 
> >> Okay, so I must be missing something...
> >> 
> >> Why does the following :-
> >> 
> >> >> Attempting to fetch from 
> >> ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/sobomax/.
> >> fetch: galeon-0.8.4.tar.gz: Operation timed out                          
>    
> >>                                                                          
>    
> >> reproducibly put the following line in my *firewall* log.
> >> 
> >> ICQ: Unknown version (27129)
> >> 
> >> Urgle....  I could undrstand some sort of accept or deny message in my 
> log, 
> >> but just that bald ICQ statement in the firewall log?  What gives?
> >
> >I've only seen that from Ethereal. That's really in your firewall log?
> 
> 
> I was tailing /var/log/security.  I was incorrect, it does not appear in 
> the log, just on the screen - an xterm.  grep reveals no ICQ in any log file
> 
> So it is not "in the firewall log" - my stupid mistake.  However, I can't 
> figure out where it comes from as it appears on the single xterm that I use 
> to tail my logs.  It is not (apparently) a console message as it is not in 
> /var/log/messages.

Did you start Ethereal from that window? Like I said, I've seen that
from Ethereal. What other programs claim that xterm as their pty?
-- 
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In the last episode (Jan 21), Noor Dawod said:
> The problem persists, though, and here it is: every once in a while,
> sometimes once a week, the mysqld process goes into OVERHEAT state
> with CPU usage getting as high as 97%, thus making it almost
> impossible for clients to connect to it. I checked mysqld's process
> usage once while this happened, and I found around 60 processes
> (connections). Not a big deal as I saw much more processes connect to
> the same daemon before, and still it continued to work.

Your high CPU usage is probably due to a complex query.  Add
"log-slow-queries" to the [mysqld] section of your my.cnf, restart
mysql, and check slow.log after one of your high-load periods.  Analyze
any queries that show up and add indexes as needed.  Also check the
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> I'm attaching the my.cnf file for you to examine. Remember, this is
> the stock my.cnf file that came with MySQL for large Web sites (those
> having more than 512MB of memory), with a little modification.

Try raising sort_buffer and tmp_table_size to 16M at least.  This will
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records.

> By the way, someone on the MySQL mailing list suggested that BSD's
> threading support "sucks", and only after he moved to Debian that
> these simptoms disappeared.

FreeBSD's threads are currently user-level and all threads block when
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FeeBSD 3.3/ KDE/netscape 4.61

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    Ugh,  As root I  install Netscape 4.61, off the 3.3 CDs using
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On Monday 22 January 2001 13:04, Crist J. Clark wrote:

>Did you start Ethereal from that window? Like I said, I've seen that
>from Ethereal. What other programs claim that xterm as their pty?

I was running ethereal.  I log and archive everything that goes in and out 
(should lokk at tcpdump, I suppose) but, unless I misremember (possible), 
it was started with Alt-F2 in KDE 2 on a different workspace as I usually 
do.  It is however, possible that I misremeber and you are correct.  It 
would explain it.

Thank you for your help.

Geoff
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Jan 21 18:43: 2 2001
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Thanks for reminding me about the mtools. I've used
them before, a bit. There are soooo many command line
tools available, no way to remember all of 'em all the
time (especially with my crappy memory).  :)

Thanks again,

Chip Wiegand


Dru wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Chip wrote:
> > Since I was not able to work on them
> > as a user, I chmod 777 the files so I could work on them.
> > That may be where the executable flag comes from? I was
> > not able to work on the floppy as a user, only as root.
> 
> I've had this problem before when copying files back and forth to
> floppies; I find it strange that they weren't owned by root.
> 
> However, if I use mtools or mfm, I don't have these problems as I can
> transfer files back and forth between my home directory and a floppy
> without having to become root to mount the floppy first. You can find a
> tutorial on using these tools at:
> 
> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/12/13/FreeBSD_Basics.html
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dru
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On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Donald J . Maddox wrote:

> You're not quite getting it.  Moused translates mouse events from
> whatever specific mouse device you use into MouseSystems protocol
> and feeds it to /dev/sysmouse.
> 
> In other words, the driver you are using *is* /dev/psm0 and whatever
> protocol is specific to your mouse.  There is a problem, however, in
> that both X and moused want to handle mouse events, and only one
> can be allowed to do so.
> 
> The solution is that moused handles *all* mouse events, and feeds
> these events to /dev/sysmouse disguised as MouseSystems protocol.
> 
> This way, there is no conflict between the console mouse driver and
> the X mouse driver.  See?
> 

Certainly.

However, the original poster is, I think, seeing a behavior I myself
am also seeing:

Under XFree86 3.3.6, I had moused running with -t ps/2 and using /dev/psm0.
This allowed console mouse access, and provided /dev/sysmouse.  I had
XFree86 looking at /dev/sysmouse and using SysMouse as the protocol type.
This all worked very nicely.

Under XFree86 4.0.2, if I have moused running with -t ps/2 and using
/dev/psm0, and tell XFree86 to use /dev/sysmouse and SysMouse, as I
did in 3.3.6, it _fails to work correctly_.  If I click the first mouse
button, for example, the mouse-down event appears to register (i.e. if
I click a widget that shows the mouse-down and mouse-up separately, I
see the mouse-down).  However, I don't see the mouse-up until such time as
I move the mouse.

For example, with Netscape 4.76 running, I can move the pointer to the
back button in the Netscape window.  Then, i can press and release the
first mouse button (normal 'click' action).  The Back button depresses,
and remains there.  I have let go of the mouse button, but the Netscape
button remains depressed until eventually the Back menu comes up.  If I
move the mouse (i.e. the _pointer_) before the menu appears, then the
Back button in the netscape window releases from the depressed position
and acts as though I have pressed it normally.

Needless to say, this is a real pain; it makes, for example, clicking
and dragging difficult, as it appears that any mouse movement is also
seen as releasing the mouse buttons.  It's really frustrating.

If I kill moused, and tell XFree86 to use /dev/psm0 directly, it works
just fine.  If I leave moused running and tell XFree86 to use /dev/sysmouse
and the MouseSystems driver, it also works just fine.

This is not correct behavior.  I think this is the behavior that this
person had seen.

--plambert



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Brian Astill writes:
> Basically, FreeBSD is Unix in everything but name (its a copyright problem that
> prevents the use of the name Unix).

Its a trademark problem, not quite the same thing as copyright.

As for the difference between FreeBSD and Linux, the shortest way I know
how to say it is that I believe FreeBSD is more mature, knows where Unix
has been and where Unix is going. Most all of The Big Mistakes have
already been tried in *BSD and corrected. Many of which Linux has had to
rediscover for itself.

The majority of Linux users are also Windows users and wear
Microsoft-colored glasses no matter how much they badmouth Microsoft.
They continue to build their new land with a Microsoft tint. This may 
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It seems that you are saying simply that the 'protocol SysMouse'
keyword is broken, but 'protocol MouseSystems' works just fine.

If this is true, then it is certainly broken, since SysMouse
should be *exactly* the same as MouseSystems.

Nevertheless, that being said, my posting was a followup to some
discusssion the original poster and I were carrying on in private
mail until said poster suddenly decided to take it back to the
list.  In our other conversations, it became clear that the poster
did not understand the difference between a mouse device, driver,
or protocol.  The email you replied to was about my fourth
attempt to explain it.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 06:43:44PM -0800, Paul M . Lambert wrote:
> 
> Certainly.
> 
> However, the original poster is, I think, seeing a behavior I myself
> am also seeing:
> 
> Under XFree86 3.3.6, I had moused running with -t ps/2 and using /dev/psm0.
> This allowed console mouse access, and provided /dev/sysmouse.  I had
> XFree86 looking at /dev/sysmouse and using SysMouse as the protocol type.
> This all worked very nicely.
> 
> Under XFree86 4.0.2, if I have moused running with -t ps/2 and using
> /dev/psm0, and tell XFree86 to use /dev/sysmouse and SysMouse, as I
> did in 3.3.6, it _fails to work correctly_.  If I click the first mouse
> button, for example, the mouse-down event appears to register (i.e. if
> I click a widget that shows the mouse-down and mouse-up separately, I
> see the mouse-down).  However, I don't see the mouse-up until such time as
> I move the mouse.
> 
> For example, with Netscape 4.76 running, I can move the pointer to the
> back button in the Netscape window.  Then, i can press and release the
> first mouse button (normal 'click' action).  The Back button depresses,
> and remains there.  I have let go of the mouse button, but the Netscape
> button remains depressed until eventually the Back menu comes up.  If I
> move the mouse (i.e. the _pointer_) before the menu appears, then the
> Back button in the netscape window releases from the depressed position
> and acts as though I have pressed it normally.
> 
> Needless to say, this is a real pain; it makes, for example, clicking
> and dragging difficult, as it appears that any mouse movement is also
> seen as releasing the mouse buttons.  It's really frustrating.
> 
> If I kill moused, and tell XFree86 to use /dev/psm0 directly, it works
> just fine.  If I leave moused running and tell XFree86 to use /dev/sysmouse
> and the MouseSystems driver, it also works just fine.
> 
> This is not correct behavior.  I think this is the behavior that this
> person had seen.
> 
> --plambert
> 
> 
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    I know this must sound stupid, but how do i tell xwin i want to use kde?


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Hi,

I have a HP LaserJet 1100ase and trying to print from netscape.
I have got GS and a filter to print postscript files to this
non-postscript
printer.
When I print from netscape I have the images right but
columns and rows of test are placed in vertical columns.

What other configurations needed to print from Nescape?.

Thanks,
Chandrasena


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<p>I&nbsp;have a HP&nbsp;LaserJet 1100ase and trying to print from netscape.
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<p>Thanks,
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put the following in your .xinitrc directory:

exec startkde

This directory is in your home directory.

Beech

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> I know this must sound stupid, but how do i tell xwin i want to use kde?
>
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Trying to wrap stunnel around UW imapd server, I'm launching stunnel
with "-l /usr/local/libexec/imapd" option.  This works fine, but only
for one connection.  If a second client tries to connect, the server
does not respond, and the first connection is hung.

I changed the -l option to "-r localhost:imap", and it works fine for
multiple connections.  But this requires the connections to go through
inetd as well, and I was hoping to get rid of that necessity.  Is that
possible?

I tried "-L" option instead of "-l", but my imap client got upset at
the results. ;^)

Thanks for any input!
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seek3r2k wrote:
> 
> I have aliased my single NIC with the IP address 192.168.1.1/24, so that
> i can port out a cable modem connection to my win machine, thus two
> machines on a subnet.  This is what my rc.conf looks like
> 
> host="host name"
> IPFILTER="YES"
> IPNAT="YES
> gateway_enable="YES"
> ifconfig fxp0="DHCP"
> ifconfig fxp0 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias
> ...
> gateway address (192.168.1.10) and the external IP address from the
> windows machine, but i can ping anything outside the network.  what am I
> doing wrong?  I compiled the kernel with IPFILTER on.

If they're all on the same subnet using a 0xFFFFFFFF mask ought
to do the trick.

Roelof

PS you might want to make your rc.conf more like:

ifconfig_xl0="inet 212.104.206.221 netmask 255.255.255.0"
ifconfig_xl0_alias0="inet 212.104.206.222 netmask 255.255.255.255"
ifconfig_xl0_alias1="inet 212.104.206.223 netmask 255.255.255.255"
ifconfig_xl0_alias2="inet 212.104.206.224 netmask 255.255.255.255"
 ...

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    Even dummer question, where would initrc be. i just ran fin / -name 
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On Sunday 21 January 2001 18:54, MaVeN2600@aol.com wrote:
>     Even dummer question, where would initrc be. i just ran fin / -name
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There should be a dotfile named .xinitrc in your home directory, or /root 
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If you don't find it create it.

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How do I restrict users to only have access in their own home directories?

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Another one quickly followed, so i guess not
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:45:24PM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> "Crist J. Clark" <cjclark@reflexnet.net> writes:
> 
> > I don't see why you can't use a self-signed cert. Provided you
> > distribute it securely (relative to what you are protecting and other
> > security measures), it is a fairly good solution.
> 
> I basically want to disable any ways of connecting to my computer with
> user names/passwords sent in clear text.  What do you mean by
> "distribute it securely"?

When you establish an SSL connection with someone new, you are
supposed to be able to trust that their cert is valid because it is
signed by a trusted third party. Something like a web browser comes
with certain signatures built in (people like VeriSign). You are
self-signing your certs. There is no trusted third party to check the
cert.

You are vulnerable to a man-in-the-middle attack the first time you
connect. There is no way for your computer to know if the machine
offering the cert at the other end is really who it claims to be. Now
if you are connecting across your local network and are not concerned
about someone doing such attacks, its not a big deal. Someone
establishing a connection over the Internet... well, such an attack is
not very probable but very possible.

> > I have never used SSL within UW IMAP. However, I set up a mailserver
> > which used stunnel (in the ports) to get SSL access to UW IMAP. Making
> > a self-signed cert with stunnel was painless and a reasonable solution
> > for that organization. 
> 
> This is great!  I just installed stunnel and had imapd and ipop3d
> working with it in no time.  I'm using the scurity certificate
> generated by "make cert".  Thanks a lot, Christ!

Yep. stunnel makes it pretty easy.

> > Almost all of the users were using M$ Outlook Express as a MUA. A
> > few Netscape Messenger users. Neither had an problems.
> 
> I just had a MS Outlook Express user confirm successful POP3 retrieval
> over SSL.  I'm happy.  The only thing that's bothering me is your
> phrase about distributing the certificate: I did not send the user
> anything, he was just able to connect by changing mail server
> configuration in his mailer.  Was the connection secure in this case?

Hmmm... Are you sure that he used SSL? I mean Outlook Express security
leaves much to be desired, but it does not make noise if it gets a
self-signed cert? Scary. An SSL session is secure with respect to
sniffing since it is encrypted, but it would be vulnerable to the
attack described above. If the user did get the real thing, they
should be secure... as secure as OE will let them be, from now on.

If I sound paranoid about this, it's because that's what I get paid to
do.
-- 
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:18:53PM +1100, Zero Sum wrote:
> On Monday 22 January 2001 13:04, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> 
> >Did you start Ethereal from that window? Like I said, I've seen that
> >from Ethereal. What other programs claim that xterm as their pty?
> 
> I was running ethereal.  I log and archive everything that goes in and out 
> (should lokk at tcpdump, I suppose) but, unless I misremember (possible), 
> it was started with Alt-F2 in KDE 2 on a different workspace as I usually 
> do.  It is however, possible that I misremeber and you are correct.  It 
> would explain it.

  $ ps axu | grep ethereal

Does the 'TT' column agree with the xterm you are seeing output in?
-- 
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 04:50:41PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 03:22:46PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> 
> > The purpose of shared libraries is to share _disk_ space, not memory
> > space.
> 
> No, I believe he is correct. If you have two shared programs in
> memory, the VM system will only have one copy of the libc code shared
> between them (similarly with any other common libraries).

That's really something if it's true. I don't see any mention of
features like that on rtld(1).
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Jan 21 20:34:34 2001
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I am using SecureCRT to connect to a 4.2-Stable FreeBSD box as a user 
using "zsh" shell.

I cannot see colours not matter what i do. I know FOR SURE the problem is not 
in SecureCRT. "ls --colour" won't work nor will links/lynx display colours. 

What is wrong? How do i make them work? 

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Jan 21 20:42:54 2001
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Thanks Dan!
Seems I overlooked that I needed to:

sh MAKEDEV snd0 

Cheers,
 -Brian


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> 
> In my efforts to avoid Windoz permanently, I'm installing some of the
> tools which replace what I used to use there.
> I don't quite get the audio setup.  What do I have to do to install
> audio support (speakers work, play CDs, play mpegs)?
> 
> I'm running FreeBSD 4-2 and have a Soundblaster 16 card.
> 
> Thanks!
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Jan 21 20:48:26 2001
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Is there a Net2Phone-like utility for FreeBSD? 
SpeakFreely seems to one work between machines.  I'm looking for the
free phone call perk.

Thanks in advance,
 -Brian


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In the last episode (Jan 21), Mark Livingstone said:
> I am using SecureCRT to connect to a 4.2-Stable FreeBSD box as a user
> using "zsh" shell.
> 
> I cannot see colours not matter what i do. I know FOR SURE the
> problem is not in SecureCRT. "ls --colour" won't work nor will
> links/lynx display colours.

Make sure the "ANSI Colors" box is checked in the "Session Options |
Emulation" tab.

Also try using the attached termcap entry, which should match CRT's
capabilities exactly.

-- 
	Dan Nelson
	dnelson@emsphone.com

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# CRT term doesn't know cv or ch, does have "Set scrolling region",
# doesn't have "erase characters", has underline,
# uses ^E[m to reset colors, has printing mode,
# eats a newline if at right margin, can't do ACS chars < 32
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	:cv@:ch@:\
	:cs=\E[%i%d;%dr:\
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	:op=\E[m:\
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                           thanks again
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> can anyone out there tell me if there are plans in the upcoming 5.0 to
> effectivly update the current packages
> being used ie like RPM but in a more stable and reliable manner??
> thanks in advance.
>                                        regards
>                                       Mike Keener WB6IIK
> 



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On Monday 22 January 2001 15:22, Crist J. Clark wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:18:53PM +1100, Zero Sum wrote:
>> On Monday 22 January 2001 13:04, Crist J. Clark wrote:
>> 
>> >Did you start Ethereal from that window? Like I said, I've seen that
>> >from Ethereal. What other programs claim that xterm as their pty?
>> 
>> I was running ethereal.  I log and archive everything that goes in and 
out 
>> (should lokk at tcpdump, I suppose) but, unless I misremember 
(possible), 
>> it was started with Alt-F2 in KDE 2 on a different workspace as I 
usually 
>> do.  It is however, possible that I misremeber and you are correct.  It 
>> would explain it.
>
>  $ ps axu | grep ethereal
>
>Does the 'TT' column agree with the xterm you are seeing output in?

All evidence is long gone.  Machine crashed - spontaneous rebbot.

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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 07:30:59PM -0500, GLOBALLINK2001@aol.com wrote:
> hey guys how is everyone?
> 
> ok here we go, i have just installed a us robotics externel modem, now i know 
> to setup ppp i have to figure out what serial port this modem is running on, 
> but unfortunatley i have no way of doing this (that i know of) how can i find 
> this out? i can do it on my own from there (i think)
> 
echo ATDT 99999999 >/dev/cua... (substitute dev names)
and see if the little lights twinkle..

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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 02:31:20PM -0800, Trevin Chow wrote:
> I'm looking at making my own prompt for bash and
> saw this color information on the web for one particular
> prompt:
> 
>   local COLOR1="\[\033[0;36m\]"
>   local COLOR2="\[\033[1;36m\]"
>   local COLOR3="\[\033[1;30m\]"
>   local COLOR4="\[\033[0m\]"
> 
> Where exactly is the color information? Is there
> a good howto somewhere?
> 
Here is something I have on my Linux system...
Adjust to taste ...

# Terminal codes for petty displays
#
#    \033          ascii ESCape
#    \033[<NUM>G   move to column <NUM> (linux console, xterm, not vt100)
#    \033[<NUM>C   move <NUM> columns forward but only upto last column
#    \033[<NUM>D   move <NUM> columns backward but only upto first column
#    \033[<NUM>A   move <NUM> rows up
#    \033[<NUM>B   move <NUM> rows down
#    \033[1m       switch bold on
#    \033[31m      switch red on
#    \033[32m      switch green on
#    \033[33m      switch yellow on
#    \033[m        switch color/bold off
#    \017          exit alternate mode (xterm, vt100, linux console)
#    \033[10m      exit alternate mode (linux console)
#    \015          carriage return (without newline)
#

esc=`echo -en "\033"`
BOLD="${esc}[1m"
RED="${esc}[31m"
GREEN="${esc}[32m"
YELLOW="${esc}[33m"
NORMAL=`echo -en "${esc}[m\017"`
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...have fun

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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 03:22:46PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 09:05:47PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> > On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:48, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > > Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios <gustavo@ifour.com.br> types:
> > > > I compiled and executed a small program and it's eating about 336
> > > > of real memory (rss) and 840 of virtual size memory (vsz), may some
> > > > one explain why a simple program eats about 1 MB of memory?
> > >
> > > You linked it shared, right? That 1MB includes all of every shared
> > > library it uses, whether it uses those functions or not.
> > 
> > Pardon ! It certainly does not ! That is the point of shared libraries -
> > the code is *shared* between processes using it. The required code is
> > then made dynamically available.
> 
> The purpose of shared libraries is to share _disk_ space, not memory
> space.
> 
Well, this is news to me.

> It's an easy enough test. Take the original little program,
> 
>   $ cat > sizetest.c <<EOF
>   #include <stdio.h>
>   #include <stdlib.h>
>   int main() {
>     sleep(300);
>     return 0;
>   }
>   EOF
>   $ cc -o sizetest sizetest.c 
>   $ cc -static -o sizetest_s sizetest.c
>   $ ls -l sizetest{,_s}
>   -rwxr-xr-x  1 cjc  wheel  4380 Jan 21 15:17 sizetest
>   -rwxr-xr-x  1 cjc  wheel  6947 Jan 21 15:17 sizetest_s
>   $ ./sizetest & ./sizetest_s & sleep 10 ; ps aux | grep sizetest
>   cjc     31567  0.0  0.2   840  272  p2  S     3:17PM   0:00.00 ./sizetest
>   cjc     31568  0.0  0.0   136   20  p2  S     3:17PM   0:00.00 ./sizetest_s
> 
> The static one takes up less memory according to ps(1), but more
> disk.
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> 
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 03:12:09PM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 01:19:17PM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > > > I think this is a BIOS issue.  I don't think any BIOS will let you
> > > > boot from arbitrarily-formatted floppies :)
> 1480 always worked for me on the system i tried -- except on vmware.
> i it was the 1720k format where i had problems which i could not

For my Linux systems I have something called Tom's Root Boot,
tomsrbt, which is a sort of emergency general purpose boot
diskette for Linux. It is formatted to 1720, and boots on my
ancient Pentium's without any BIOS adjustments...

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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 04:50:41PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 03:22:46PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> 
> > The purpose of shared libraries is to share _disk_ space, not memory
> > space.
> 
> No, I believe he is correct. If you have two shared programs in
> memory, the VM system will only have one copy of the libc code shared
> between them (similarly with any other common libraries).
> 
> Kris
At last the voice of sanity :)

Cliff
> 
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:54:58PM -0600, David Kelly wrote:
> Brian Astill writes:
> > Basically, FreeBSD is Unix in everything but name (its a copyright problem that
> > prevents the use of the name Unix).
> 
> Its a trademark problem, not quite the same thing as copyright.
> 
> As for the difference between FreeBSD and Linux, the shortest way I know
> how to say it is that I believe FreeBSD is more mature, knows where Unix
> has been and where Unix is going. Most all of The Big Mistakes have
> already been tried in *BSD and corrected. Many of which Linux has had to
> rediscover for itself.
> 
This is probably true...
BSD has a looooooooooooong history...

> The majority of Linux users are also Windows users and wear
> Microsoft-colored glasses no matter how much they badmouth Microsoft.
> They continue to build their new land with a Microsoft tint. This may 
I don't understand what is meant by this... ?
Both FreeBSD and Linux are amazing achievements..in my view.

> not be a bad thing, only time will tell.
> 
> 
> --
> David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net
> =====================================================================
> The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
> capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.
> 
> 
> 
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:12:46PM -0500, Dru wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Chip wrote:
> 
> > I ran ls -lF and got the class assignment files listed
> > with the asterisk, owned by myself (not root).
> > I then ran ls -lf and got a similar listing but the files
> > in question do not have the asterisk.
> > I ran ll and got a listing that was the same as running
> > ls -lF except the files in question did not have the
> > asterisks.
> > In the man page, ls(1), an asterisk means that the file
> > is executable. How does a .html file, or a .gif file, 
> > get the executable attribute? Could it be because I first 
> > created some of these as root on a floppy, then copied them
> > to my user directory? Since I was not able to work on them
> > as a user, I chmod 777 the files so I could work on them. 

*Sigh* .. don;t chmod 777 everything.. it really is a bad thing to do
and yes this is the reason your html files etc have the -x- bit
set...

The permissions system in Unix has a reason.
The execute permission bit on files not meant to be executed can
be very dangerous, especially as root. Consider executing
a document that had a warning about "rm -rf *" in it, and
gave as an example the line "rm -rf *" on a line all on it's
own.... :(

Cliff


> > That may be where the executable flag comes from? I was 
> > not able to work on the floppy as a user, only as root.
> 
> I've had this problem before when copying files back and forth to
> floppies; I find it strange that they weren't owned by root.
> 
> However, if I use mtools or mfm, I don't have these problems as I can 
> transfer files back and forth between my home directory and a floppy
> without having to become root to mount the floppy first. You can find a
> tutorial on using these tools at:
> 
> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/12/13/FreeBSD_Basics.html
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dru
> 
> 
> 
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 10:37:49PM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> Trying to wrap stunnel around UW imapd server, I'm launching stunnel
> with "-l /usr/local/libexec/imapd" option.  This works fine, but only
> for one connection.  If a second client tries to connect, the server
> does not respond, and the first connection is hung.
> 
> I changed the -l option to "-r localhost:imap", and it works fine for
> multiple connections.  But this requires the connections to go through
> inetd as well, and I was hoping to get rid of that necessity.  Is that
> possible?
> 
> I tried "-L" option instead of "-l", but my imap client got upset at
> the results. ;^)

  # stunnel -d 993 -l /usr/local/libexec/imapd -- imapd

Doesn't work? Once someone connects, a separate stunnel should fork
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I only got like 11 messages from him.  I wouldn't consider that a
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I'm attempting to mount a directory from a linux box on our net.
It fails with the following:
galaxy# mount -o soft intake:/usr /mnt
nfs: bad MNT RPC: Timed out

Do I need a special command to mount it? The server on the linux box is 
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Courvette <wash@iconnect.co.ke> writes:

> Someone can help me with this one. After an upgrade to 4.2-STABLE from
> 3.5-STABLE I am unable to use my tape drive -and consequently can't do
> backups - we all know how serious that is....

please, give us the output of : camcontrol devlist

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> I only got like 11 messages from him.  I wouldn't consider that a
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I had issues with this when I was doing some bootsector ASM coding. Basical=
ly,
you have to set up the disk header (first 32 bytes of sector 1?) to tell the
bios how many sectors your disk has. Many BIOSes will still only do 18 sect=
ors
anyway, though. I can't remember the exact layout of the disk header, but i=
t is
usually started with a JMP NEAR instruction past the info header (3 bytes),
followed by a short OS signature (8 bytes?) and then the disk info that is
typically passed in INT 13 calls.

Luigi Rizzo had the audacity to say:
>=20
> > On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 01:19:17PM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > > > I think this is a BIOS issue.  I don't think any BIOS will let you
> > > > boot from arbitrarily-formatted floppies :)
> > >=20
> > > the 1480 format works.
> >=20
> > Have you got this working now - or was it the larger size that didn't
> > work?
>=20
> 1480 always worked for me on the system i tried -- except on vmware.
> i it was the 1720k format where i had problems which i could not
> solve despite a number of different attempts at telling the
> bios that i was using 21 sectors/track.
>=20
> 	cheers
> 	luigi
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Cliff Sarginson writes:
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:54:58PM -0600, David Kelly wrote:
> > The majority of Linux users are also Windows users and wear
> > Microsoft-colored glasses no matter how much they badmouth Microsoft.
> > They continue to build their new land with a Microsoft tint. This may 
> I don't understand what is meant by this... ?
> Both FreeBSD and Linux are amazing achievements..in my view.
> 
> > not be a bad thing, only time will tell.

What I mean by "Microsoft tint" is prefaced by "Microsoft-colored
glasses". Users who know only of Windows bitch when an OS doesn't do
everything the way they are used to. When configuring a foreign system,
or writing code for it, they design the user interface after the
Microsoft model. And use Microsoft terminology to document. And then
complain about how much they hate Microsoft.

A small thing but last time I sat at a Linux keyboard "dir" did the DOS 
thing, by default.

Many years ago a conversation with a PC kid was quite memorable. He 
didn't have the imagination to picture a world without IRQ, DMA, and 
I/O address jumpers. That he thought there was something magical and 
absolute about 16 IRQ lines and "all computers must have that." He 
couldn't understand how the Wintel Plug-n-Play differed from what Apple 
did in their NuBus Macs.


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Hi!
Everyone,

i have SAMBA working between  Windows and FreeBSD with users able to logon from
windows.
i face problem when transferring a text file from Windows to FreeBSD server ie
when file is copied from Windows explorer to
FreeBSD drive, it  is copied properly but when i do telnet to FreeBSD server and
use vi editor to see it, it shows some junk characters. i guess by default text
files are transfered in binary mode so vi editor shows control characters, how
to get rid of this problem? any specific settings in /usr/local/etc/smb.conf
file.


Thanks,
regards
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I've forgotten what the byte to megabyte and megabyte to gigabyte ratios are
can someone please give me the numbers again.  I'm trying to win an
argument.

Thank you

Justin


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Any reason why sometimes when i start gqmpeg it just bogs out and dies but
its still in 'ps x' not as a zombie either. But I can not kill -9(-anything
else either) it , it just ignores the kill and end up haveing to reboot or
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Hello

  Had to get my 2cents in this .. I would personally
handle it ALOT more calmly than what you did I mean
that sounds like something a 2yearold would do if
someone sent 11 or so messages.

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> "Remember, this is MY 2-cents, thank you drive
> through"

/me drives through.

heh




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Compared to how much -questions spits out a day, 11 messages ain't gonna hurt
anybody, except maybe you of course..... ;)


Jeremiah Gowdy wrote:

> > I only got like 11 messages from him.  I wouldn't consider that a
> > flood.......
> >
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> You don't consider 11 unsubscribe messages a flood ?  Mind if I send you 11
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> Compared to how much -questions spits out a day, 11 messages ain't gonna
hurt
> anybody, except maybe you of course..... ;)

Heh.  It does hurt me.  I am in pain.  :)




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> >
> Hello
> Well to see what the dialog between you and your ISP looks like
> use "minicom" to do a terminal emulator type connection.
> When I do this..I get a prompt for login, password and protocol.
> That helps with that part.
> 
> "authuser" are you sure you shouldnt be using "authname"
> My ppp.conf has:
> 
> 
> set phone 12345678
> set authname baggins
> set authkey bagend
> 
> 
> (all name are fake of course :)
> 
> Cliff

Yes mine reads authname, just checked it.  When I put that email together I was going by memory.....I've been frustrated by my lack of progress on this that I'm willing to make things up as I go along at this point ;-).

Thanks again, I'll give minicom a shot....
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I dont know, but some people are just tooo wired........
Get some rest and let the daemons get wired.

f f wrote:

> Hello
>
>   Had to get my 2cents in this .. I would personally
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Jan 21 22:26:35 2001
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Enough chatting tonight.  Time for sleep.
lata

Jeremiah Gowdy wrote:

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> > anybody, except maybe you of course..... ;)
>
> Heh.  It does hurt me.  I am in pain.  :)

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Will Saxon wrote:

> dhcpd: if IN A  doesn't exist add 21600 IN A  192.168.0.2: resolver failed.
> 
> Occasionally I get another message complaining of an invalid domain.

Looks like a problem in the dhcpd configuration. Send the dhcpd.conf
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I was wondering what the minimum system requirements for FreeBSD are?

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Hello,
Can anybody tell me the detailed procedure of
installing
the dnslint program.I do not have it in my system,but
I have all the 4 CD's for freebsd.Pls advise.
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To: "Jason Heibult" <heib2246@blue.univnorthco.edu>,
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> I was wondering what the minimum system requirements for FreeBSD are?

A 386sx 16mhz, either 4 or 8 megs ram, and probably a 100 meg hard drive.

Yes, I'm serious.  Of course I wouldn't recommend such a computer.  More
useful information would be: I run my Pentium 75mhz laptop with 32 megs ram
under FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE.  No problem.





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hey guys i just installed freebsd on a AMD800mhz computer with 128,egs of ram 
and i was suprised to see X runs very slow and horrible i know i configured 
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At Sun, 21 Jan 2001 it looks like Beech Rintoul composed:

akbeec->
akbeec->On Sunday 21 January 2001 18:54, MaVeN2600@aol.com wrote:
akbeec->>     Even dummer question, where would initrc be. i just ran fin / -name
akbeec->> ..initrc -print and i couldn't find it..
akbeec->
akbeec->
akbeec->There should be a dotfile named .xinitrc in your home directory, or /root 
akbeec->directory if you're user root. It should only only contain the line:
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akbeec->
akbeec->If you don't find it create it.
akbeec->
akbeec->Beech

This one liner has always worked for me.

echo `which kde` > ~/.xinitrc

and to go back to gnome

echo `which gnome-session` > ~/.xinitrc

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Howdy,

I installed FreeBSD 4.2 on a disk that was on a PCI controller, so the slices
start with ad4s1a.  But I'm wanting to use that disk in a different computer,
one that only has the usual two onboard IDE channels.

As you know it's not enough to edit fstab, changing the entries ad4 to wd0.  How
do I tell the kernel to load /dev/wd0s1a instead of /dev/ad4s1a as / ?

I did bother to look through previous questions, and although several people
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:40:21AM -0500, Jon wrote:
> i forgot my root password what can i do
From the console boot into single user mode, mount the file system for writing, and
then change the password.

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I have it running on a variety of machines, 
including a 486dx4/100 (works great without
x installed). Also have a p100, p133 (firewall),
p150 (sql server), p166 (webserver), and amd 
k6-2/350 (my workstation).

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> 
> I was wondering what the minimum system requirements for FreeBSD are?
> 
> Thank you for your time,
> Jason Heibult


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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Jason Heibult wrote:

> I was wondering what the minimum system requirements for FreeBSD are?

I've been running a mail/web/dns server as well as a NAT gateway on a
386dx40 with 8meg RAM for several years.  One caveat is that you need at
least 12 meg RAM to run sysinstall on more recent versions of FreeBSD, but
I could do a buildworld on a faster machine, then installworld on the '386
just fine.  It's recently been retired from those duties and now serves as
just a fax server, but it's always done the job.  DNS, mail for a handful
of users, and a low traffic web site isn't all that demanding.  After all,
this machine was state-of-the art 10 years ago. :-)

Ken



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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:07:32AM -0500, JSMolinaro wrote:
> I've forgotten what the byte to megabyte and megabyte to gigabyte ratios are
> can someone please give me the numbers again.  I'm trying to win an
> argument.

To hard disk manufacurers, 1 megabyte = 10^6   bytes
To everyone else,          1 megabyte = 1024^2 bytes

Also, when talking about tranfer rates, a MB/s is often refers to 10^6
rather than 1024^2. Note that,

  1024^2/10^6 = 1.048576

Now, when talking about gigabytes, it is usually 1024^3... but
sometime it is 10^9. Or even better, sometimes people mix the powers
of two and ten, so that they call (10^3)(1024^2) a gig.

See,

  http://webopedia.internet.com/TERM/k/kilobyte.html

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> What I mean by "Microsoft tint" is prefaced by.........


If no one minds I'll chime in with an opinion, since it seems to me this discussion is verging slightly off it's 
intended path.  Also I'll play a little devils advocate here as well.  I dont have 'programming' experience in
 either of the OS'.  I just do perl scripting at work on Sun OS but here is what I've gathered from my
 'experience' with the various OS'.


The *nix OS' lack sufficient documentation for the average user.  I'm a little above the average user so I've
 been able to stumble along getting a Linux box to run.  At work I have a Linux box and found it has just as
 much frustrating moments as my WNT.  For example one time I was composing an email on my Linux
 box in Netscape via my email provider.  I hear the disk grinding along when all of a sudden my browser
 goes MIA.  WTF!!.  I never bothered to figure it out because I was just so disgusted with it.  BTW the
 Linux is RedHat.

Windows is the most trouble free for my minor uses of PCing, surfing the net and putting together these
 emails.  But for development stuff that I do at work and would like to do at home I wouldnt dream of
 Windows in any form.  It is waaay too much of a resource hog with too many fluffy add on's for my tastes.

My frustration with OS doesnt end there, FBSD has proven to have it's draw back's as well.  Namely my
current lack of sucess in getting my internet connection up and running, along with my Xwin looking weird
and me not being able to play my music CD in Xwin (something about permissions).  But the Xwindows 
will have to wait until I can connect to my internet.  

So what keeps me coming back for more?, well I can actually see where it is I'm going wrong with Linux
 or FBSD and I can 'get under the hood' to fix it.  Sometimes it is necessary due to lack of proper
 documentation....atleast we have these lists.  Or maybe it's the false hope that this provides......  

I'm not a geek nor do I profess to be one, I just dont have the time to putz around with a minor thing as
 compared to MS's way of doing something.  

But I dislike MS for their business practices if anything, they totally insist on doing things in such a way
 that is to pretend there is no other way besides their way.  

Thanks for letting me vent and I hope I've got this stupid email formatted in a readable form.

FWIW,
Steve M




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I saved this from the freebsd-questions list a few days ago:

Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Friday, 19 January 2001 at  5:46:23 -0600, Lakewebs wrote:
> > Hello
> > My name is Ronald Goad.  As of last week I had a person that was
> > running or internet services dns and hosting.  Both boxes are =
running
> > on FreeBSD. This individual left in the middle of the night after
> > changing all access passwords.  Is there anyone who can assist me in
> > saving these systems.
>=20
> I'm forwarding this to FreeBSD-questions.  Maybe there's somebody
> there who can help you.

First: hunt down the jerk and kill him.
Second: reboot the system (CTL+ALT+DEL at the system console will
provoke a clean shutdown) as it's coming back up, watch for the
countdown, where it says "press enter to boot now or any other key ..."
Press any key other than ENTER before the countdown ends.
At the prompt, enter "boot -s" This will take you into single-user mode.
The system will ask you what shell to use, hit ENTER to accept the
default.
Now you'll be logged in as root (the system admin on a UN*X system).
Just enter the "passwd" command to change root's password. Then enter
reboot and allow the system to come back up into normal operating mode.
You'll now be able to log in as "root" using the new password you
created.

-Bill


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2001 at&nbsp; 5:46:23 -0600, Lakewebs wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; Hello<BR>&gt; =
&gt; My=20
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running or internet services dns and hosting.&nbsp; Both boxes are=20
running<BR>&gt; &gt; on FreeBSD. This individual left in the middle of =
the night=20
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who can=20
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forwarding=20
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who can=20
help you.<BR><BR>First: hunt down the jerk and kill him.<BR>Second: =
reboot the=20
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shutdown) as=20
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From: Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs linux 
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:07:01 GMT
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> Cliff Sarginson writes:
> > On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:54:58PM -0600, David Kelly wrote:
> > > The majority of Linux users are also Windows users and wear
> > > Microsoft-colored glasses no matter how much they badmouth Microsoft.
> > > They continue to build their new land with a Microsoft tint. This may 
> > I don't understand what is meant by this... ?
> > Both FreeBSD and Linux are amazing achievements..in my view.
> > 
> > > not be a bad thing, only time will tell.
> 
> What I mean by "Microsoft tint" is prefaced by "Microsoft-colored
> glasses". Users who know only of Windows bitch when an OS doesn't do
> everything the way they are used to. When configuring a foreign system,
> or writing code for it, they design the user interface after the
> Microsoft model. And use Microsoft terminology to document. And then
> complain about how much they hate Microsoft.

I am sorry that has not been my experience from the mailing lists 
for Linux I have been on. Sure some people complain, but they would
complain anyway. They feel they have been sold a pup !

I really do not understand what you mean by "user interface" in this context.
If you are referring to X11 Desktops, then that has nothing to do with
Linux per-se. If you are referring to the installation/setup programs
then since most of them (with the honourable exceptions of Suse and
Debian) don't work .. and are supposed to .. I suppose people will
complain. Is this a Microsoft "tint", I don't think so, except that
since Microsoft's installation procedures have never worked
properly since the days of 3.1 I suppose they do have something in common.
> 
> A small thing but last time I sat at a Linux keyboard "dir" did the DOS 
> thing, by default.

i think you will find "dir" often aliased to "ls -l". This seems to me
be perfectly fine ! That one of the major strengths of the UNIX shell,
it can be customised to your likes. Despite years of UNIX work I still
miss out the space between ls and -l in "ls -l" so I have an alias
for "ls-l" :)

Cliff

p.s. I am not sure what this has to do with the original question, which
I think was asking for some objective answers :)




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-On [20010120 08:40], Alex Kapranoff (alex@kapran.bitmcnit.bryansk.su) wrote:
>Additional symptoms include very high system CPU state percentage and
>a lot of page faults.

A page fault is not a bad thing, it is merely an indicator from the CPU
to the kernel that the page you want to refer to, the next page of
executable data of the application you are running, is not in memory
[yet].
The CPU causes a page fault and the kernel pages in the part(s) of the
application to memory and then resumes operation, now being able to
refer to the appropriate page.

[snip]

>Is my RAM rotting or what?

Given you get coredumps on cc, as and such, it could be.  But not
always, I have had current give me coredumps in cc and as before but
that was due to problems in the binaries themselves after some changes
in the world.

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Subject: Re: DNSLINT
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> Hello,
> Can anybody tell me the detailed procedure of
> installing
> the dnslint program.I do not have it in my system,but
> I have all the 4 CD's for freebsd.Pls advise.
> Thanks and Brgds
> Partha

I think I may have mislead you .,. sorry, I think it is actually
called "nslint".. oops

Cliff



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Hi all,

Is anyone out there running FreeBSD 4.2 on an Intel D815EEA
Motherboard??? When I try to install via the on board network the machine
will hang tight after a couple of minutes of the download :-( The problem
is reproducable.

Another option I've been given is an ASUS CUSI-FX motherboard... anyone
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Gavin

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Hello,
We don't all have rich daddies paying for our ASDL links.
Some of us pay to be online.
Sending pointless messages like that just shows what a spoilt brat
he is.
Plus all the useless messages it has generated (like this one).

Cliff




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Hi there!

Sometimes when I am working from home I have 3 or 4 ssh sessions open on the
server and then there is some kind of hiccough on the connection and I am
disconnected. I have a couple of questions on this:

1. When I log back in and do a 'who' command I see that the earlier sessions
are still running. What is the best way to log them out and close them from
my new session?

2. Sometimes I get disconnected and then can't get back in. I wonder if the
server has crashed, but if I wait, usually, about 15 minutes or less I get
back in again. Once I had to wait until the next day before it recovered. Is
this from some mechanism in FreeBSD that notices when a program has had a
problem and restarts it? This happens with ftpd as well as ssh.

I am running FreeBSD 4.1.

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i have a server run FreeBSD4.2
it is a very busy server, i found when the porcesses are above 600,
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Is there a PAM tutorial or a guideline how to setup PAM
under FreeBSD? It seems some utilities/ports introduce
/etc/pam.d which disables /etc/pam.conf. OTOH important 
files are then missing according to syslog: 
Jan 22 08:40:40 myhost login: _pam_init_handlers: no default config /etc/pam.d/othe
r
Jan 22 08:40:40 myhost login: error reading PAM configuration file
Jan 22 08:40:40 myhost login: pam_start: failed to initialize handlers  
Jan 22 08:40:40 myhost login: pam_start: Critical error - immediate abort


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Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> types:
> On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:48, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios <gustavo@ifour.com.br> types:
> > > I compiled and executed a small program and it's eating about 336
> > > of real memory (rss) and 840 of virtual size memory (vsz), may some
> > > one explain why a simple program eats about 1 MB of memory?
> > You linked it shared, right? That 1MB includes all of every shared
> > library it uses, whether it uses those functions or not.
> Pardon ! It certainly does not ! That is the point of shared libraries -
> the code is *shared* between processes using it. The required code is
> then made dynamically available.

Shared libraries are mapped into the memory space of the process. As
such, they are part of the memory of the process, and should be
counted when adding up the memory of the process, so it'll be the rss
(if it's resident) and vsz of the process.

Whether or not the physical memory is shared is another question, and
I'll let you all continue to debate that. I will say that, given the
price of disks, if the memory isn't shared, a system with static
binaries might be a better choice than one with dynamic binaries.

	<mike
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Hello,
When I send Mail from my FreeBSD system I get my ID as
partha@partha.master.com but it should be
partha@master.com.
Because my hostname is partha and my domain name is
master.com.
Why is this so where could be the problem and what
should I do to rectify this??
Brgds?partha

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On 22-Jan-01 Jeremiah Gowdy wrote:
>> I was wondering what the minimum system requirements for FreeBSD are?
> 
> A 386sx 16mhz, either 4 or 8 megs ram, and probably a 100 meg hard drive.

You'll have problems with a harddisk smaller than 120 Megs. But in any way such
a system has no man pages, and you can't add ports and have no space for your
own files even. A more practical smallest HD is 200Megs.



> 
> Yes, I'm serious.  Of course I wouldn't recommend such a computer.  More
> useful information would be: I run my Pentium 75mhz laptop with 32 megs ram
> under FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE.  No problem.
> 
> 
> 
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 12:03:29AM -0800, parthasarathi biswas wrote:
> Hello,
> When I send Mail from my FreeBSD system I get my ID as
> partha@partha.master.com but it should be
> partha@master.com.
> Because my hostname is partha and my domain name is
> master.com.
> Why is this so where could be the problem and what
> should I do to rectify this??

If you're using sendmail, you have to use the MASQUERADE feature in your
m4 config files. eg:

	MASQUERADE_AS(master.com)
	FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')

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Hey everyone!

I have a couple different questions, and I thought I would try them in the
same email.

First, I have been running FreeBSD for some years now, but never really had
to update the source, because I usually could just rebuild the machine.  Now
that I have to, after I cvsup the src, are there any easy steps to take to
update with the least amount of problems and downtime?  I also am away from
the machine, so I was wondering if I could do this remotely.  I did read
about make world, but what does that command actually do?

Second, I would like to have a working backup of the server with all of its
files over to another machine like a mirror.  It doesn't have to be a live
copy.  Could update overnight.  Has anyone got this to work successively,
and if so with what program?  Is rdist a good option for this?

Please send any replies cc to bierblb@netins.net since I am not on the list.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help!

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 03:20:39AM -0500, BJD wrote:
> Wold I be able to compile and run SQL.? Also would I be able to make tables and thus construct a database with the FreeBSD

There are a few SQL databases available with FreeBSD, of which the 2
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hello,
i have a freebsd 4.2 machine. how can i configure it to have an ipv6.0 address
rather than
a ipv4.0 address?

i would like to make two freebsd4.2 machines connect to each other via ipv6.0
both should act as ipv6.0 hosts and not routers.

should i be having routers which forward ipv6.0 messages. ?
or is it enough if i run the 'rsold' (router solicitation daemon) from the
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The 386 bit is OK & maybe even a 120Mb hard drive for a bare minimum command
line only 3.x installation, but as Jeremiah stated, 200Mb is smallest
practical for 4.x & then only for command line systems.

I dunno about install of 3.x or 4.x with either 4 or 8Mb RAM .... there have
been quite a number of postings from people who have attempted that but I've
yet to see that one has succeeded ...... at least 12Mb appears to be
necessary & 16Mb is a more realistic minimum.

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> On 22-Jan-01 Jeremiah Gowdy wrote:
> >> I was wondering what the minimum system requirements for FreeBSD are?
> >
> > A 386sx 16mhz, either 4 or 8 megs ram, and probably a 100 meg hard
drive.
>
> You'll have problems with a harddisk smaller than 120 Megs. But in any way
such
> a system has no man pages, and you can't add ports and have no space for
your
> own files even. A more practical smallest HD is 200Megs.
>
>
>
> >
> > Yes, I'm serious.  Of course I wouldn't recommend such a computer.  More
> > useful information would be: I run my Pentium 75mhz laptop with 32 megs
ram
> > under FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE.  No problem.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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On 22-Jan-01 Brent wrote:
> Hey everyone!
> 
> I have a couple different questions, and I thought I would try them in the
> same email.
> 
> First, I have been running FreeBSD for some years now, but never really had
> to update the source, because I usually could just rebuild the machine.  Now
> that I have to, after I cvsup the src, are there any easy steps to take to
> update with the least amount of problems and downtime?  I also am away from
> the machine, so I was wondering if I could do this remotely.  I did read
> about make world, but what does that command actually do?

Easiest is if you are withing the same branch. I.e. going from 4.0 to 4.2. In
that case cvsup the sources, 'cd /usr/src', 'make buildworld' to see if
everything is there, and 'make installworld' to replace your current binaries.
Or use 'make world' to have it done in one go. It will start by rebuilding gcc
to be able to rebuild the rest. Takes a couple of hours but is straightforward.

You should then also rebuild your kernel. Either you are using the GENERIC one
or not. If you are using the GENERIC do this:

cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
/usr/sbin/config -r GENERIC
cd ../../compile/GENERIC
make depend
make -j4
make install
reboot

If you are using ANOTHER then replace GENERIC with ANOTHER. There has been a
thread on this list for a week or so about how to actually build the new kernel.
The way described above has always worked for me, but there is another way that
people say one should use nowadays. Check out the mailing list for that
discussion.

All of this you can do remotely. But should the box not reboot correctly then
you may have to manually interact. Has never happened to me though.



> Second, I would like to have a working backup of the server with all of its
> files over to another machine like a mirror.  It doesn't have to be a live
> copy.  Could update overnight.  Has anyone got this to work successively,
> and if so with what program?  Is rdist a good option for this?

(no expert here). Yes I think I have heard about rdist in connexion with this.
It should work. If you do not necessarily need it on another machine then vinum
can do mirroring too.


> Please send any replies cc to bierblb@netins.net since I am not on the list.
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance for your help!
> 
> Brent Bierstedt
> 
> 
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"Crist J. Clark" <cjclark@reflexnet.net> writes:

>   # stunnel -d 993 -l /usr/local/libexec/imapd -- imapd
> 
> Doesn't work? Once someone connects, a separate stunnel should fork
> leaving the listener bound on 993/tcp.

No, it doesn't work. :(  It works fine so long as there are no
concurrent accesses from several hosts.  That is, I can connect from
one machine (even with different user names) many consequent times.
Then I can do the same from another machine.  But as soon as I request
update of my IMAP folders from my workstation (and my IMAP folders are
many and huge), and attempt to update IMAP folders from another
computer in parallel, the process hangs on BOTH computers, and I have
to kill and restart stunnel.

This does not happen when I use "-r localhost:imap" instead of "-l ..."

Any ideas?
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* Cyrille Lefevre <clefevre@citeweb.net> [20010122 09:48]: writing on the subject 'Re: Help with Tape Drive'
Cyrille> Courvette <wash@iconnect.co.ke> writes:
Cyrille> 
Cyrille> > Someone can help me with this one. After an upgrade to 4.2-STABLE from
Cyrille> > 3.5-STABLE I am unable to use my tape drive -and consequently can't do
Cyrille> > backups - we all know how serious that is....
Cyrille> 
Cyrille> please, give us the output of : camcontrol devlist

wash:/usr/home/wash# camcontrol devlist
<HP 9.10GB A 68-SA40 SA40>         at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0)
<COMPAQ BB009222B5 B016>           at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (pass1,da1)
<HP T20 3.01>                      at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 (pass2,sa0)


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"Crist J. Clark" <cjclark@reflexnet.net> writes:

> You are vulnerable to a man-in-the-middle attack the first time you
> connect. There is no way for your computer to know if the machine
> offering the cert at the other end is really who it claims to be. 

Oh, got it.  So the idea is exactly the same as with ssh.  If the only
danger of compromise is at first connect, I can live with it, I guess.

> > I just had a MS Outlook Express user confirm successful POP3 retrieval
> > over SSL.  I'm happy.  The only thing that's bothering me is your
> > phrase about distributing the certificate: I did not send the user
> > anything, he was just able to connect by changing mail server
> > configuration in his mailer.  Was the connection secure in this case?
> 
> Hmmm... Are you sure that he used SSL? I mean Outlook Express security
> leaves much to be desired, but it does not make noise if it gets a
> self-signed cert? Scary. An SSL session is secure with respect to
> sniffing since it is encrypted, but it would be vulnerable to the
> attack described above. If the user did get the real thing, they
> should be secure... as secure as OE will let them be, from now on.

I now had 3 MS OE users report no problem with switching to SSL.  (Two
of them only used pop3s.)  I asked them if OE complained about a
certificate, and it appears that it didn't.  All they had to do is put
a checkmark somewhere in Account Properties or smth like that.

OE did report a problem when I specified wrong server alias when
generating my certificate, though.

Christ, many thanks for your help!
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On Sunday, 21 January 2001 at 21:45:24 -0800, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote:
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Jonathan Chen <jonc@itouch.co.nz> types:
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:21:24AM -0600, Drew Sanford wrote:
> > I'm trying to set up a printer on 4.2-stable and running into some 
> > problems. I looked at the handbook, and figured that sensably enough, 
> > the first thing to do was to try lptest > lpt0 to see if everything was 
> > talking nicely. After a second or 5, it printed one line of the ascii 
> > charactor set across the top of the page (from ! to o) and then a " at 
> > the righthand end of the next line, then ejected that sheet of paper, 
> > loaded another, and sat there. The trouble shooting section of the 
> > handbook doesn't appear to deal with this situation.
> 
> This sounds like the common staircasing effect. You need a linefeed
> converter filter for this queue. Create a script like this:
> 
> 	#!/bin/sh
> 	#
> 	#	Add a \r to each line
> 	#
> 	awk '{ print $0,"\r"; }'
> 
> and add an entry to this script file in /etc/printcap, eg:
> 
> 	if=/path/to/the/script/file

You can also install the magicfilter port, which has a "text" filter
which takes care of this, among other things.

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I will say only a couple of things about this subject.

I have tried both platforms.  I have tried several flavours of Linux as well as
FreeBSD.  What I have found is simply this...

FreeBSD is far more robust.  Pound for pound, the only thing that comes close
to getting as much as t=FreeBSD out of my hardware is QNX.  However, I have
spent weeks of reading online documentation as well as "The Complete FreeBSD"
as well as this mailing List and after two weeks of trying different things, I
still can't get it working right.

Linux, by comparason, is slow as frozen molases.  But, I have found that it is
far easier to install and run.  What I have spent 2 weeks of work trying to do
I just did in 30 minutes with Red Hat, 25 minutes of which was a
reformat/reinstall.

Will I go back to FreeBSD?  Absolutely.  I think that the performance
improvements are reason enough to spend more weeks learning it all.  But, to be
fair, for people just starting to abandon Microsoft who need something that is
quick to learn and simple to set up, Linux is the clear choice.

Now that I have installed Red Hat 7 so that I can check my mail, it's time to
go back to the drawing board and reinstall FreeBSD to see if I can finally get
that working.  Who knows... for me maybe 29 is the lucky number.




On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:54:58PM -0600, David Kelly wrote:
> > Brian Astill writes:
> > > Basically, FreeBSD is Unix in everything but name (its a copyright problem that
> > > prevents the use of the name Unix).
> > 
> > Its a trademark problem, not quite the same thing as copyright.
> > 
> > As for the difference between FreeBSD and Linux, the shortest way I know
> > how to say it is that I believe FreeBSD is more mature, knows where Unix
> > has been and where Unix is going. Most all of The Big Mistakes have
> > already been tried in *BSD and corrected. Many of which Linux has had to
> > rediscover for itself.
> > 
> This is probably true...
> BSD has a looooooooooooong history...
> 
> > The majority of Linux users are also Windows users and wear
> > Microsoft-colored glasses no matter how much they badmouth Microsoft.
> > They continue to build their new land with a Microsoft tint. This may 
> I don't understand what is meant by this... ?
> Both FreeBSD and Linux are amazing achievements..in my view.
> 
> > not be a bad thing, only time will tell.
> > 
> > 
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I tried responding but the HTMLizing screwed up my mail client,
please shut it off when you post to the list!

Anyway, it sounds like your out of swap - what are the tools
like systat and top reporting?


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What brand of pcmcia ethernet card are you working with?

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Tomoki
>Taniguchi
>Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 9:04 AM
>To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'
>Subject: RE: tcp/ip problem
>
>
>I hava a pro-star laptop.  I went for a cheapo brand...  BIG 
>MISTAKE...  for
>the record NEVER buy a pro-star laptop.  Their tech support 
>sucks and I've
>had to hack the heck out of it just so the harddrive won't 
>burn out every 3
>months.  Anyway, here is the spec for it 
>
>466 celeron
>128M ram
>ati rage lt pro 
>20g hd (dual boot with win2000)
>2 usb
>2 pcmcia type 2
>I don't know the chipset 
>got it the summer of 1999
>
>I box pings fine under windows so I don't think it's the dns.
>and the ping lag is for both computers on the lan and on the internet
>
>any clues?
>
>thanx
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com]
>Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:30 PM
>To: 'Tomoki Taniguchi'; 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'
>Subject: RE: tcp/ip problem
>
>
>What brand of laptop and pcmcia ethernet card are you
>working with?  Have you checked the hub port and ethernet
>cable?
>
>Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
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>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Tomoki
>>Taniguchi
>>Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 4:13 PM
>>To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'
>>Subject: tcp/ip problem
>>
>>
>>I reccently installed freebsd onto my laptop using the 4.2 
>>install disc.  I
>>was using a usb ethernet and noticed that  my ping time was 
>ridiculous.
>>they start at around 1000ms and keeps increasing till it gets to about
>>20000ms when I kill it.  I thought that it was a problem with my usb
>>interface, so I bought a pcmcia ethernet card.  Same problem.  The usb
>>ethernet works fine on my other box running 4.2 but that box 
>>has been long
>>since sync'ed to the stable branch.  I tried to sync my laptop 
>>to see if it
>>resolves the problem, but since I'm using the usb ethernet it 
>>takes over a
>>day to sync, which causes the make to fail.  I'm starting to 
>think that
>>there is something seriously wrong with my tcp/ip stack or 
>>something.  Has
>>anyone else run into the same problem?  Does anyone have a solution?
>>
>>-tomoki
>>
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>
>The *nix OS' lack sufficient documentation for the average 
>user.  I'm a little above the average user so I've

What an insult!  What about my book that was just
released?  And what about Greg's book "The Complete FreeBSD"
that has been out longer than that?  What is lacking in those
efforts?  And, the bookstores are stuffed with Linux books!!

Your not going to get a manual, bound and all
that, for the $30 distribution cost of the CDs!  For that matter
you don't get a manual with Microsoft's products either unless
you spend $150 for the Resourse Kit

>
>I'm not a geek nor do I profess to be one, I just dont have 
>the time to putz around with a minor thing as
> compared to MS's way of doing something.  
>

If you took someone who has never seen, never touched a computer
before and sat them in front of a FreeBSD system, I wager it would
take just as long to train them to use it as to train them to
use Windows.  MS's way only seems easier because you learned it
first.

>But I dislike MS for their business practices if anything, 
>they totally insist on doing things in such a way
> that is to pretend there is no other way besides their way.  
>

Right - because they market to one-dimensional users that are
scared if they are given 2 different ways to solve a problem,
and asked to choose the best one.

>Thanks for letting me vent and I hope I've got this stupid 
>email formatted in a readable form.
>
>FWIW,
>Steve M
>

You do.  Go ahead and vent.  But, stop by the bookstore
before condemming the lack of docs.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 02:43:33AM -0500, John Bolster wrote:
> 1. When I log back in and do a 'who' command I see that the earlier sessions
> are still running. What is the best way to log them out and close them from
> my new session?

Is it only in "who" or also in the process-list? If only the first,
then it's only an administrative problem with the logfiles, if it's
also in the process-list then find the terminal in the process-list
and kill these ones:

[~] edwin@kludge>w
10:03AM  up 4 days,  9:03, 11 users, load averages: 1.04, 1.05, 1.01
USER             TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
[..]
edwin            p5       :0.0             Fri09AM 2days tin -r
[..]

Terminal p5...

[~] edwin@kludge>ps xauw | grep -w p5 | grep -v grep
edwin   4821  0.0  0.7  1328  916  p5  Is   Fri09AM   0:00.05 -bash (bash)
edwin   4823  0.0  8.3 11160 10556  p5  I+   Fri09AM   0:09.10 tin -r

[~] edwin@kludge>kill -9 `ps xauw | grep -w p5 | grep -v grep | awk '{ print $2 }'`

First try it without the -9, then get the things which refuse to
die with a -9.

> 2. Sometimes I get disconnected and then can't get back in. I wonder if the
> server has crashed, but if I wait, usually, about 15 minutes or less I get
> back in again. Once I had to wait until the next day before it recovered. Is
> this from some mechanism in FreeBSD that notices when a program has had a
> problem and restarts it? This happens with ftpd as well as ssh.

Can you still ping it? Can you telnet to port 22? Do you see a prompt then?

Edwin

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So I thank you all that have answered me. But I have replied to them
directly (a mistake, sorry) and so I repost my questions here at work as I
can't connect to my home computer...

First, how do I subscribe the mailing lists ? Is it possible ?

Second, my questions...

I am currently a windows user. I will surely keep windows for games, as
there are only a few games on the unix community. But I want to get rid of
windows for work, and use a unix kind of OS instead. So I wonder whether to
try FreeBSD or Linux.

First, what are the differences between the two OS ? Someone told me FreeBSD
is real Unix, and Linux has nothing to do with Unix. But what does this
means ? About compatibility for example ? I have thought that unix software
can run under linux.

Can I find all kind of apps I can find on linux, on FreeBSD ? Such as office
tools (such as staroffice), network and internet tools, and games ?

Last question : what is the best way to install FreeBSD ? FTP or a CD ? I
have a DSL connection and so I have a free connection to internet. But to be
able to access FTP site I must first configure my internet access. I had
this pb when I tried debian linux : I have installed the base OS with disks
but then I was unable to configure my internet connection : I have not the
tools needed. And what about FreeBSD ? I am in France and as DSL connection
I have ADSL with PPPoE or PPTP.

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> Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> types:
> > On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:48, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > > Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios <gustavo@ifour.com.br> types:
> > > > I compiled and executed a small program and it's eating about 336
> > > > of real memory (rss) and 840 of virtual size memory (vsz), may some
> > > > one explain why a simple program eats about 1 MB of memory?
> > > You linked it shared, right? That 1MB includes all of every shared
> > > library it uses, whether it uses those functions or not.
> > Pardon ! It certainly does not ! That is the point of shared libraries -
> > the code is *shared* between processes using it. The required code is
> > then made dynamically available.
> 
> Shared libraries are mapped into the memory space of the process. As
> such, they are part of the memory of the process, and should be
> counted when adding up the memory of the process, so it'll be the rss
> (if it's resident) and vsz of the process.
> 
> Whether or not the physical memory is shared is another question, and
> I'll let you all continue to debate that. I will say that, given the
> price of disks, if the memory isn't shared, a system with static
> binaries might be a better choice than one with dynamic binaries.

So what does the word shared in shared memory mean then :)
Hard to see what the point is if all processes load their own copy
of shared memory libraries at run time..
I think you will find that physically speaking there is only one libc...
in memory under the shared model.

Cliff

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hi,

just wondering.. is there a QuickTime version that I can use under FreeBSD?
(or am i too optimistic?)

thanks,
dimitri


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xanim does QT :)

On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 11:09:29AM +0200, d t wrote:
> hi,
> 
> just wondering.. is there a QuickTime version that I can use under FreeBSD?
> (or am i too optimistic?)


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Someone told me of a compareason chart I can find on the FreeBSD CD, but can
I find this chart elsewhere, without downloading the whole ISO file ?

And do FreeBSD has some kind of lilo to boot an other OS too ? And do it has
a good x-window with window managers such as GNOME, KDE, enlightments, and
the like ?

And about apps. Can I find good mail server (IMAP/POP/SMTP), good
antiviruses, dynamic DNS services, ... the same I can find under linux ?

And about the FreeBSD community : are they friendly ? Because I have tried
Debian linux, I went on debian IRC, and because I am a newbie I was banned
from their IRC... Not very friendly isnt'it ?

I thank you...



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What is the FreeBSD position vs linux and windows ? I have read somewhere
windows community is afraid of linux because there are many software now on
linux, and all free. And what about FreeBSD ? Does it grows fast enough to
frightened windows community too ? I know unix based OS are more stable than
windows... And what about apps ?

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 22  1:41:18 2001
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From: Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD versus Linux
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> First, how do I subscribe the mailing lists ? Is it possible ?

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> Second, my questions...

> First, what are the differences between the two OS ? Someone told me FreeBSD
> is real Unix, and Linux has nothing to do with Unix.
FreeBSD is part of the evolution of UNIX going back to near the
dawn of UNIX time. I suppose that makes it "real UNIX", but there
are lots of variants on that theme.

Linux is a UNIX lookalike operating system. It was written from scratch
(more or less) as a project at a University on or around 1990. It has
since grown way beyond that. Having said that from a user perspective
it is as much like "real" Unix as anything else with that claim.

FreeBSD is distributed as a complete system, with O/S and system programs
not seen as seperable things. There is only 1 FreeBSD (but there are
other BSD based O/S's, such as OpenBSD and NetBSD.. have a look at their
web sites for information).

Linux is strictly speaking just the O/S part and uses mostly GNU system
software .. GNU get pissed about people talking about Linux rather than
GNU/Linux (probably because Hurd, the O/S GNU is writing has been years
in arriving). What is irritating or wonderful (depending on your
point of view) is that Linux comes in a Heinz like variety of distributions...
dozens of them. So if you decide to try Linux first you will need to decide
which one (all I will say on this is do NOT try Redhat, the biggest selling
but worst Linux distribution on the planet).

Compatibility. Most Linux software runs fine under FreeBSD, some of it
runs reputedly better !

> Can I find all kind of apps I can find on linux, on FreeBSD ? Such as office
> tools (such as staroffice), network and internet tools, and games ?

I don;t know if Staroffice is available under FreeBSD yet. But I see no reason
why it shouldn't run.

Personally I would install it from CD first off, simplifies life for the
cost of small outlay for the CD's. Buy a set with the handbook if you can.
 

What else? I would try both if I were you.
Asking here is not necessarily going to get you an objective view .. lol.

I use FreeBSD 4.0/4.2 and Suse Linux 7.0.
I am happy with both of them.

Cliff



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How about you try them all out, and decide for yourself?


At 10:22 AM 1/22/2001 +0100, Julien Pham wrote:
>What is the FreeBSD position vs linux and windows ? I have read somewhere
>windows community is afraid of linux because there are many software now on
>linux, and all free. And what about FreeBSD ? Does it grows fast enough to
>frightened windows community too ? I know unix based OS are more stable than
>windows... And what about apps ?
>
>Thanks.
>
>
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> Someone told me of a compareason chart I can find on the FreeBSD CD, but can
> I find this chart elsewhere, without downloading the whole ISO file ?
> 
> And do FreeBSD has some kind of lilo to boot an other OS too ? And do it has
> a good x-window with window managers such as GNOME, KDE, enlightments, and
> the like ?

yes to all questions.

> And about apps. Can I find good mail server (IMAP/POP/SMTP), good
> antiviruses, dynamic DNS services, ... the same I can find under linux ?

yes.

> And about the FreeBSD community : are they friendly ? Because I have tried
> Debian linux, I went on debian IRC, and because I am a newbie I was banned
> from their IRC... Not very friendly isnt'it ?

FreeBSD users eat raw steak for breakfast, they are always drunk and
in trouble with the law, they curse a lot, and hate newbies... roflmao.

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Free, ok, but what means BSD ?
I really like your daemon logo... Can I find some backgrounds (wallpapers)
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"Crist J. Clark" <cjclark@reflexnet.net> writes:

>   # stunnel -d 993 -l /usr/local/libexec/imapd -- imapd
> 
> Doesn't work? Once someone connects, a separate stunnel should fork
> leaving the listener bound on 993/tcp.

Shouldn't I be seeing one extra child of stunnel per every imapd
process?  If I understand correctly, there should be one parent
stunnel, spawning two children for each connection: one more stunnel
to do the decryptiong magic, and one to exec the actual server to pipe
the decrypted stream to.  Am I right?  Now I only see one stunnel
process in "ps aux", and one imapd process.  But I think that already
this should be two stunnels and one imapd.
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Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> types:
> > Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> types:
> > > On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:48, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > > > Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios <gustavo@ifour.com.br> types:
> > > > > I compiled and executed a small program and it's eating about 336
> > > > > of real memory (rss) and 840 of virtual size memory (vsz), may some
> > > > > one explain why a simple program eats about 1 MB of memory?
> > > > You linked it shared, right? That 1MB includes all of every shared
> > > > library it uses, whether it uses those functions or not.
> > > Pardon ! It certainly does not ! That is the point of shared libraries -
> > > the code is *shared* between processes using it. The required code is
> > > then made dynamically available.
> > 
> > Shared libraries are mapped into the memory space of the process. As
> > such, they are part of the memory of the process, and should be
> > counted when adding up the memory of the process, so it'll be the rss
> > (if it's resident) and vsz of the process.
> > 
> > Whether or not the physical memory is shared is another question, and
> > I'll let you all continue to debate that. I will say that, given the
> > price of disks, if the memory isn't shared, a system with static
> > binaries might be a better choice than one with dynamic binaries.
> 
> So what does the word shared in shared memory mean then :)
> Hard to see what the point is if all processes load their own copy
> of shared memory libraries at run time..
> I think you will find that physically speaking there is only one libc...
> in memory under the shared model.

Since you replied to me, and I didn't have an opinion about shared
libraries being shared on memory or just disk, I'm assuming you're
claiming that my analysis of the way libc is used and the memory
counted.

Checking usage is easy: just truss a binary that uses shared libc, and
look for it in the output. Here's what I find:

access("/usr/lib/libc.so.3",0)                   = 0 (0x0)
open("/usr/lib/libc.so.3",0,027757775424)        = 3 (0x3)
fstat(3,0xbfbffae4)                              = 0 (0x0)
read(0x3,0xbfbfeab4,0x1000)                      = 4096 (0x1000)
mmap(0x0,643072,0x5,0x2,3,0x0)                   = 672337920 (0x28131000)
mmap(0x281b5000,20480,0x3,0x12,3,0x83000)        = 672878592 (0x281b5000)
mmap(0x281ba000,81920,0x3,0x1012,-1,0x0)         = 672899072 (0x281ba000)
close(3)                                         = 0 (0x0)

I.e. - it gets opened and mmap'ed into memory exactly like I
said. After it's mapped in, a second area is allocated r/w instead of
r/x, and a second r/w area is allocated from swap. They are all part
of the memory used by the process, and show up in the appropriate
sizes.

	<mike
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Greetings

For the latest version, go to ftp://ftp.butya.kz/pub/smbfs/smbfs.tar.gz.
HTH.

Kelly




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>
>Could you please tell me where to find mount_smbfs package? 
>


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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Crist J. Clark
>Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 8:18 PM
>To: Arcady Genkin
>Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: imap and pop3 via stunnel (was: UW-IMAP server and secure
>authentication)
>
>
>On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:45:24PM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
>> "Crist J. Clark" <cjclark@reflexnet.net> writes:
>> 
>> > I don't see why you can't use a self-signed cert. Provided you
>> > distribute it securely (relative to what you are 
>protecting and other
>> > security measures), it is a fairly good solution.
>> 
>> I basically want to disable any ways of connecting to my 
>computer with
>> user names/passwords sent in clear text.  What do you mean by
>> "distribute it securely"?
>
>When you establish an SSL connection with someone new, you are
>supposed to be able to trust that their cert is valid because it is
>signed by a trusted third party. Something like a web browser comes
>with certain signatures built in (people like VeriSign). You are
>self-signing your certs. There is no trusted third party to check the
>cert.
>
>You are vulnerable to a man-in-the-middle attack the first time you
>connect. There is no way for your computer to know if the machine

Your discounting the ability to transfer the key by other mechanisms.
In any case, there's nothing preventing anybody from setting up shop
on the Internet and distributing signatures.  People get all hung up
on Verisign because they were smart enough to come in out of the rain
and stick their sigs into the 2 major web browsers, but there's
nothing preventing any other certificate authority from being used,
provided that the key is transmitted securely.

Here's a thought, a CA can set itself up, get a Verisign certificate,
then use it to bootstrap their own signatures into interested parties
web browsers, than those users can go to other sites that are running
certs signed by that CA.

Frankly, in my opinion it's a damn shame that Verisign has been
able to successfully propagandize most of the Internet into believing
that they are the Only Way Truth and Light to secure data transmission
on the Internet.  It's tremendously retarded the growth and use of
SSL on the Internet, in my opinion.

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ken 
>Bolingbroke
>
>I've been running a mail/web/dns server as well as a NAT gateway on a
>386dx40 with 8meg RAM for several years.  One caveat is that 
>you need at
>least 12 meg RAM to run sysinstall on more recent versions of 
>FreeBSD, but
>I could do a buildworld on a faster machine, then installworld 
>on the '386
>just fine.  It's recently been retired from those duties and 
>now serves as
>just a fax server, but it's always done the job.  DNS, mail 
>for a handful
>of users, and a low traffic web site isn't all that demanding. 
> After all,
>this machine was state-of-the art 10 years ago. :-)
>
>Ken
>

Even better, these older 386's and 486/33's don't need a CPU fan,
so one less thing to get cockeyed.  And I'd trust a system that
has lasted 10 years and was still going strong more than a
system with only 6 months on it.


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>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Cliff 
>Sarginson
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>> 
>> The purpose of shared libraries is to share _disk_ space, not memory
>> space.
>> 
>Well, this is news to me.
>

The point should also be made that your not really consuming a meg
of ram here because most of the program is going to be swapped out.
Check the Active memory in top and you will see the real memory
utilization of the system.



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>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
>GLOBALLINK2001@aol.com
>Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 10:33 PM
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>Subject: X is very slow
>
>
>hey guys i just installed freebsd on a AMD800mhz computer with 
>128,egs of ram 
>and i was suprised to see X runs very slow and horrible i know 
>i configured 
>it right can you guys think of anything that could be causing this?
>

What kind of video card are you running?

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>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 9:58 PM
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>
>What I mean by "Microsoft tint" is prefaced by "Microsoft-colored
>glasses". Users who know only of Windows bitch when an OS doesn't do
>everything the way they are used to. When configuring a foreign system,
>or writing code for it, they design the user interface after the
>Microsoft model. And use Microsoft terminology to document. And then
>complain about how much they hate Microsoft.
>

Don't go crediting Microsoft for the user interface!!!

Microsoft ripped the Win95 user interface from IBM's OS2.  IBM
ripped it off from the Macintosh.  And Apple ripped it off of Xerox.

I think it would be fair to say also that MIT ripped it off from
Xerox too when they wrote X.

Anyway, I fail to see how a unified user interface is a Bad Thing.

And, I see just as many examples of UNIX terminology coming into
the Microsoft documentation as going the other way round.  About the
only thing that Microsoft has refused to do is use the word
"daemon" and "job" when referring to different processes under their
OS, but it can be argued that this is a marketing edict.


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>
>error. Anyway, I
>recompiled following the instructions in the handbook, but once the new
>kernel was loaded and i did "dmesg | grep pcm" i got no 
>output. There were
>no errors during compilation (other than the normal warnings). 
>In my dmesg
>output there is the following lines:
>
>unknown1: <AUDIO> at port 0x220-0x22f,0x388-0x38f,0x534-0x537 
>irq 5 drq 1,3
>on isa0
>unknown2: <MPU401 MIDI> at port 0x330-0x331 irq 9 on isa0
>
>can anyone suggest what options to use in my kernel config 
>file in order to
>get the card working? I am pretty sure it is a SB16 compatible 
>(if not a
>real one).
>

Did you also add in the pcm device into the
kernel config file with the appropriate options?

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Hi All,

  I have one bit of advice for you!  Run, not walk, to Ebay
and buy yourself a used Ascend Pipeline 75 and use that for
your ISDN indial.  It shouldn't cost more than $75 or so
and you will save yourself an enormous amount of headache.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
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>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 1:03 PM
>To: James Wilde
>Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: OT: ISDN and TCP/IP
>
>
>
>Hi James,
>
>You may find the ISDN and PPP articles at the following link helpful:
>
>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/index.htm
>
>They're fairly technical, but may provide the missing bit of 
>info you're
>looking for. BTW, all articles at that link make very good 
>reading and can
>be downloaded in PDF format.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dru
>
>
>On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, James Wilde wrote:
>
>> I'd appreciate being allowed to tax the accumulated 
>experience and knowledge
>> with the following question.
>> 
>> My company has a modem pool which accepts incoming calls 
>from both analog
>> and ISDN modems.  I have a D-Link router behind my ISDN box 
>but no ISDN
>> modem.  I would like to be able to call the modem pool and 
>connect into our
>> network.  However it doesn't work with a simple dial-up by 
>the router onto
>> the network.
>> 
>> Now I know the experts are probably rolling about on the 
>floor laughing at
>> this point, but I would like to know what it is that 
>prevents this kind of
>> contact from working, and whether there is a software 
>solution available.
>> 
>> As I see it, ISDN is merely a carrier, just like the analog 
>lines, and I
>> can't see that an ISDN modem is going to transmit the 
>information by sending
>> beeps at 900 hz and 1.3 khz, or whatever the frequencies 
>are, as the analog
>> lines do.  I am assuming that an ISDN modem converts the 
>digital TCP/IP
>> packets coming from the computer to another digital format for ISDN
>> transmission, whereupon some part of the modem pool at the other end
>> converts the ISDN signals back into TCP/IP.
>> 
>> Thanks for any direct or indirect (e.g. URLs) help with this 
>one, which has
>> been puzzling me for a while.
>> 
>> mvh/regards
>> 
>> James
>> 
>> 
>> 
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So on ly computer I have windows installed on my 4Gb drive, and I want to
install FreeBSD on my empty 8Gb drive. Of course after FreeBSD installation
I want to be able to boot either FreeBSD or windows.

Do I have something to know on installation on how to do this ?

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And what are the differences between those two OS ?

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What does this mean in my syslog: (FreeBSD 4.0 RELEASE)

Jan 22 10:32:38 myhost mountd[50507]: umountall request from 137.226.30.2 \
from unprivileged port

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 22  2:16: 1 2001
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> And what are the differences between those two OS ?

Time for you to do a little research.

www.freebsd.org
www.netbsd.org
www.openbsd.org

Read the FAQ's is also a good tip.

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Hi.

Trying to decide wheter to use or not use the PopTop for VPN connections
from
Win98/NT to a FreeBSD server.
Does anybody have any experience with this port? It's still in v1.01 and if
anybody
have a better (more developed) port with good encryption scheme please let
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Have anybody got first hand knowlede on setting up this port on FreeBSD?
Got the ports website but this mainly focuses on Linux and problems you
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Would really like to use a port more like vtun, but it doesn't currently
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Hi,

I'm having problems with cvsup on one of my machines.. I have three identical 
machines and on two of them I can cvsup without any problems, however on the 
third I keep etting the following messages..

  Updating collection src-all/cvs
  TreeList failed: Network write failure: Connection lost

and

  Rejected by server: Access limit exceeded; try again later
  Will retry at 10:23:42

When I get the access limit exceeded and I try cvsuping from one of my other 
machines the server does not seem to be bussy anymore.

I'm supping from the cvsup.uk.freebsd.org server

Any help would be apreciated.

Thanks

Mark

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Hi all (Greg Lehey already mailed to),
I am Keith Spencer in Townsville Australia.
I am trying to use your book to install X on my new
machine.
celeron 433 Intel integrated video motherboard I810
chipset.
I am new to all this Unix stuff..but I am keen to
learn.
I have determined that XFree86 4.x supports my video.
I found how to install a port.In particular FreeBSD
ver 4.2 installs XFree86 3.3.6 so I didn't do
this because it doesn't support my video. I went into
the ports tree on my drive
(I had installed the entire ports tree) and found
x11/XFree86-4.1
Anyway I did "make" and then "make install".
It took ages, downloaded source files automagically
via FTP ok and seemed to install ok
But now what? If I go into X11r6/bin (I think), I
can't seem to run xcfg86  or xfree86config  (or
whatever they are called.) ?????
Am I missing something?
Should I have installed X3.3.6 from /stand/sysinstall
and then did the port build thing for X4.1 ?
Really stumped. I would appreciate your help on how to
continue the install process. I find the various docs
confusing (coming from M$windows environment)
Regards
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Hello,
I think there is some problem in the ftp site of
freebsd.Because When I try to install nslint in my
system it gets stuck attempting to down load the file.

I tried for second option of copying the tgz file from
the CD which is nslint-2.0.1.tgz.I extracted the file
in the same directory and then did
#make install but it always gets to the freebsd site
to download it and says could not find the .tgz file
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I've forwarded your question to 'questions' and 'hardware'
You have a better chance of an answer there.

On 20 Jan, Jake Rivera wrote:
>    My Modem is connnected to COM5(U.S.Robotics PCI Pro)  what is it in FreeBSD and how can I install it to work 




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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:32:07PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote:

> > No, I believe he is correct. If you have two shared programs in
> > memory, the VM system will only have one copy of the libc code shared
> > between them (similarly with any other common libraries).
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> That's really something if it's true. I don't see any mention of
> features like that on rtld(1).

It's a generic feature of the VM system which shared libraries happen
to incidentally benefit from. If you map the same object more than
once, it only maintains one copy of it in VM, until one of the users
dirties a page (changes something), at which point the page is copied
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> Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> types:
> > > Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> types:
> > > > On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:48, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > > > > Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios <gustavo@ifour.com.br> types:
> > > > > > I compiled and executed a small program and it's eating about 336
> > > > > > of real memory (rss) and 840 of virtual size memory (vsz), may some
> > > > > > one explain why a simple program eats about 1 MB of memory?
> > > > > You linked it shared, right? That 1MB includes all of every shared
> > > > > library it uses, whether it uses those functions or not.
> > > > Pardon ! It certainly does not ! That is the point of shared libraries -
> > > > the code is *shared* between processes using it. The required code is
> > > > then made dynamically available.
> > > 
> > > Shared libraries are mapped into the memory space of the process. As
> > > such, they are part of the memory of the process, and should be
> > > counted when adding up the memory of the process, so it'll be the rss
> > > (if it's resident) and vsz of the process.
> > > 
> > > Whether or not the physical memory is shared is another question, and
> > > I'll let you all continue to debate that. I will say that, given the
> > > price of disks, if the memory isn't shared, a system with static
> > > binaries might be a better choice than one with dynamic binaries.
> > 
> > So what does the word shared in shared memory mean then :)
> > Hard to see what the point is if all processes load their own copy
> > of shared memory libraries at run time..
> > I think you will find that physically speaking there is only one libc...
> > in memory under the shared model.
> 
> Since you replied to me, and I didn't have an opinion about shared
> libraries being shared on memory or just disk, I'm assuming you're
> claiming that my analysis of the way libc is used and the memory
> counted.
> 
> Checking usage is easy: just truss a binary that uses shared libc, and
> look for it in the output. Here's what I find:
> 
> access("/usr/lib/libc.so.3",0)                   = 0 (0x0)
> open("/usr/lib/libc.so.3",0,027757775424)        = 3 (0x3)
> fstat(3,0xbfbffae4)                              = 0 (0x0)
> read(0x3,0xbfbfeab4,0x1000)                      = 4096 (0x1000)
> mmap(0x0,643072,0x5,0x2,3,0x0)                   = 672337920 (0x28131000)
> mmap(0x281b5000,20480,0x3,0x12,3,0x83000)        = 672878592 (0x281b5000)
> mmap(0x281ba000,81920,0x3,0x1012,-1,0x0)         = 672899072 (0x281ba000)
> close(3)                                         = 0 (0x0)
> 
> I.e. - it gets opened and mmap'ed into memory exactly like I
> said. After it's mapped in, a second area is allocated r/w instead of
> r/x, and a second r/w area is allocated from swap. They are all part
> of the memory used by the process, and show up in the appropriate
> sizes.
Yes, it is mapped into the processes's address space.
It is not copied into it.

Cliff



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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Julien Pham wrote:

> Free, ok, but what means BSD ?
> I really like your daemon logo... Can I find some backgrounds (wallpapers=
)
> with him ?

BSD is an abbreviation for "Berkeley Software Distribution"; BSD has been
a flavour of AT&T's UNIX developed at the Berkeley University from about
1977 till about 1995. FreeBSD (like NetBSD and OpenBSD as well as BSDi)
evolved from BSD UNIX (the last version has been 4.4BSD-Lite2 in 1995).

> And what is the best newsgroups servers for FreeBSD newsgroups ? Because =
the
> newsgroups from my ISP has only a few messages (555 for freebsd.misc and =
1
> from freebsd.announce)

I don't know many - but you may try news.gwdg.de ...

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:33:09AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Crist J. Clark
> >Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 8:18 PM
> >To: Arcady Genkin
> >Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> >Subject: Re: imap and pop3 via stunnel (was: UW-IMAP server and secure
> >authentication)
> >
> >
> >On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:45:24PM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> >> "Crist J. Clark" <cjclark@reflexnet.net> writes:
> >> 
> >> > I don't see why you can't use a self-signed cert. Provided you
> >> > distribute it securely                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > (relative to what you are 
> >protecting and other
> >> > security measures), it is a fairly good solution.
> >> 
> >> I basically want to disable any ways of connecting to my 
> >computer with
> >> user names/passwords sent in clear text.  What do you mean by
> >> "distribute it securely"?
> >
> >When you establish an SSL connection with someone new, you are
> >supposed to be able to trust that their cert is valid because it is
> >signed by a trusted third party. Something like a web browser comes
> >with certain signatures built in (people like VeriSign). You are
> >self-signing your certs. There is no trusted third party to check the
> >cert.
> >
> >You are vulnerable to a man-in-the-middle attack the first time you
> >connect. There is no way for your computer to know if the machine
> 
> Your discounting the ability to transfer the key by other mechanisms.

No, I mentioned explicitly that secure channels do exist in my initial
response as pointed out above. But those methods are out-of-band and
not within the SSL protocol itself.

> In any case, there's nothing preventing anybody from setting up shop
> on the Internet and distributing signatures.  People get all hung up
> on Verisign because they were smart enough to come in out of the rain
> and stick their sigs into the 2 major web browsers, but there's
> nothing preventing any other certificate authority from being used,
> provided that the key is transmitted securely.

Yes. I used Verisign as an example because everbody's heard of
them. Some others are,

  BelSign
  CertiSign
  Digital Signature Trust
  E-Certify
  Entrust
  GlobalSign
  ...

It's all moot since I did not think the original poster was actually
interested in getting a cert signed by a third party.

> Here's a thought, a CA can set itself up, get a Verisign certificate,
> then use it to bootstrap their own signatures into interested parties
> web browsers, than those users can go to other sites that are running
> certs signed by that CA.

I think anyone who paid to get signed by someone who distributes their
cert like that has been had. You are counting on users following bad
security practices to get these guys' certs in place. Well, if morons
are your target market, then that actually might be a good choice.

I count certs from 27 different signers in a freshly installed
Netscape browser. There are over 80 certs total. These include the
signers listed above plus other little joints like the USPS, AT&T,
IBM, etc. Verisign is not the only game in town. And frankly, I don't
really like the idea that my browser by default would trust all of
these guys.

> Frankly, in my opinion it's a damn shame that Verisign has been
> able to successfully propagandize most of the Internet into believing
> that they are the Only Way Truth and Light to secure data transmission
> on the Internet.  It's tremendously retarded the growth and use of
> SSL on the Internet, in my opinion.

I really am unaware of a basis for such a claim. Are there scores
people who want to get a signed SSL cert and have been denied the
privilege? Security companies and other institutions who do this have
sprung out of the woodwork. The cool thing about selling a cert
signing service is that it takes very little actual work. Like you
point out, the real challenge and costs are in marketing and
branding.
-- 
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Hello there,
I have a LAN which is "hidden" from the world using NAT and i want to setup a
sub-NAT-network within my LAN. That is: using another NAT server to hide this
subnetwork from the rest of the LAN. 

Can anyone tell me if this is possible?

bye,
paisios

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What is the MAXUSERS set to in your kernel configuration?
(I assume that you custom-compiled a kernel)

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
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>-----Original Message-----
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>
>
>thank you to response me^^
>
>here is a top info when the server is the busy time:
>
>last pid:  3588;  load averages:  0.60,  0.43,  0.27    up 0+00:13:30
>07:57:28
>1044 processes:1 running, 1042 sleeping, 1 zombie
>CPU states:  8.1% user,  0.0% nice,  6.2% system,  1.5%
>interrupt, 84.2%
>idle
>Mem: 193M Active, 12M Inact, 69M Wired, 88K Cache, 32M Buf, 226M Free
>Swap: 1000M Total, 1000M Free
>Ć²
>  PID USERNAME PRI NICE  SIZE    RES STATE    TIME   WCPU
>CPU COMMAND
> 3197 root      28   0  3080K  2332K RUN      0:03  0.05%  0.05% top
> 2123 root       2   0  1992K  1624K select   0:01  0.00%  0.00% httpd
>  197 root       2   0  2404K  1472K select   0:00  0.00%  0.00% sshd
> 2379 nobody     2   0  2072K  1776K sbwait   0:00  0.00%  0.00% httpd
> 2303 nobody     2   0  2072K  1704K sbwait   0:00  0.00%  0.00% httpd
> 2349 nobody     2   0  2072K  1776K sbwait   0:00  0.00%  0.00% httpd
> 2291 nobody     2   0  2072K  1704K sbwait   0:00  0.00%  0.00% httpd
> 2722 nobody     2   0  2084K  1792K sbwait   0:00  0.00%  0.00% httpd
> 2182 nobody     2   0  2072K  1772K accept   0:00  0.00%  0.00% httpd
> 2702 nobody     2   0  2072K  1700K sbwait   0:00  0.00%  0.00% httpd
> 2310 nobody     2   0  2072K  1704K sbwait   0:00  0.00%  0.00% httpd
> 2804 nobody     2   0  2072K  1700K sbwait   0:00  0.00%  0.00% httpd
> 2321 nobody     2   0  2072K  1768K sbwait   0:00  0.00%  0.00% httpd
> 2518 nobody     2   0  2060K  1764K sbwait   0:00  0.00%  0.00% httpd
> 2435 nobody     2   0  2084K  1788K sbwait   0:00  0.00%  0.00% httpd
> 2748 nobody     2   0  2084K  1792K sbwait   0:00  0.00%  0.00% httpd
>
>huan
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
>To: "'Huan Net'" <info@huannet.com>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
>Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 09:45
>Subject: RE: the server always reboot it self in busy time
>
>
>> I tried responding but the HTMLizing screwed up my mail client,
>> please shut it off when you post to the list!
>>
>> Anyway, it sounds like your out of swap - what are the tools
>> like systat and top reporting?
>>
>>
>> Ted
>>
>
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Speaking as the admin of an ISP that deploys DSL I can't
disagree more!  I WANT stone-dumb support techs at the
Telco, because I want to discourage people from calling
the Telco if there's a problem!

I DO NOT WANT end users like this to be calling the
Telco DSL tech support!!  I want them to be calling MY tech
support, BEFORE they call the phone company, so that we
can key the order for their circuit into the phone company's
system so that it's delivered properly, with all the
hardware that they need.  DON'T call the phone company,
they don't know anything about DSL or how to order
it, all they know is how to put a DSL CPE into a shipping
box and mail it somewhere, then how to go to the switchroom
and crossconnect your phone line to a DSLAM port.  Beyond
that 95% of the Telco techs employed by the phone company
couldn't tell a DSL circuit from a hole in the ground,
and the 5% that know what they are doing are kept busy
running around and fixing all the mistakes that the other
95% make.

Telco DSL tech support is to be used for ONE thing only - 
you call them if the DSL modem cannot train to the DSLAM,
nothing else.  PLEASE DO NOT ask them ANYTHING else - because
I guarentee that what's going to happen is that your
slightly broken system is going to end up being completely hosed.
Then, after completely screwing you the Telco is going
to start blaming the ISP saying it's their fault.
Then when you call the ISP in desperation, you have
made my job 1000% times harder because the system by
then is so completely hosed that my support techs can't
make head or tail out of it, and I get sucked into fixing
it, or I have to have you yard damn the thing into our
office and burn up an hour of support time unscrewing it.

We do FreeBSD, Linux, MacOS, OS/2, Winders, NT, 2K support
all for DSL.  Our job is getting the Internet to your system.
The Telco's job is delivering some circuit that they don't
know what the hell is running on it and they could care less.
Remember they don't get paid for the Internet service ON the
DSL circuit, the get paid for the circuit itself.  Call the people
that do give a rat's ass about the Internet service on the DSL
circuit for help - the ISP.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
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>Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:53 PM
>To: tresstatus@bsdpunk.com
>Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: bellsouth dsl?
>
>
>steve wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> > I recently found out that bellsouth dsl will soon be 
>available in my
>> > area.
>> > So, like any broke college student, their free dialup acct till
>> > availability looked good.  I called em up and started to 
>sign up for the
>> > acct.  We got to the OS question and it came to a halt.  
>The woman swore
>> > up
>> > and down that their modem (usb) would not work with 
>anything but windows
>> > or
>> > mac.  Is this true? (i doubt it).
>
>The woman you talked to probably has no experience whatsoever with
>computers, and wouldn't know Linux from FreeBSD. However, her script
>tells her that it's only compatible with Windows, so that's what she
>says. I think it's bullshit. Basically, by sticking to Windows only,
>they can hire uneducated support personnel who can answer 95% of the
>questions off of a script. Thus we have Bill's Law: "For every 1000
>people using a computer, one of them knows what he's doing."
>
>> > Does anyone have experience setting up
>> > dsl from bellsouth on freebsd?  I'm fairly sure it'll 
>work, but I wanna
>> > know before I call back and lie and say I use windows.  =)
>
>Find out make/model of the modem and send it to the list. If it's a
>modem, it's either supported hardware or not. If not, it still might
>work, but it's a gamble at that point.
>
>-Bill
>
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On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:55:27PM -0800, Michael Keener wrote:
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I already responded to this one..did you not get it?

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Anybody else seen this with 4.2-R

After a "config; make depend; make" my kernel build always hangs trying to
build the gnufpu directory under the modules directory.  The problem seems
to be a bad .depend file in
/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/gnufpu.  One of
the dependencies to time.h reads  "@/sys/time>h"

Anybody have an idea on how to fix this so that I don't have to edit the
.depend file each time I build a kernel?

Thanks,

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 04:17:38AM -0500, Donald J . Maddox wrote:
> xanim does QT :)

Sort of. It doesn't support the Sorenson codec which is what nearly
all quicktime movies found "in the wild" use. There are no
implementations of Sorenson for non-Mac/Windows platforms, AFAIK.

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Hello,

I have Freebsd 3.4-Release and also some questions:

1)Is it possible to install JDK1.3.0?
  If "NO" then, can I using the Linux emulator?!?
2)I've noticed that the transfer rate of data using
  an Iomega Zip 250(Parallel Port) is not as good as 
  with windows... Is it true? If yes then why?

PS1. Ok, ok, I know I have to upgrade...
PS2. Can I use the JDK 1.3.0 with Freebsd 4.1-R???

TIA
Katerina Markou.
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 22  3:13:51 2001
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First of all, yes it's possible.
Setup the second NAT server in the same way you did on
first NAT server.

The problem that might arise is when a machine on the
second LAN wants for axess the "world".  This can be
solved for web by using a proxy but dunno how
ftp/telnet/ssh will behave.

Try it on a test benchfirst and you will get your answer.
Also depending on you network, you could make FreeBSD answer
both net 192.168.1 and 192.168.2 using alias in ifconfig.
(If you use DHCP you might need to have two network adapters
to physically separate the networks)

PeTe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgd@telehorizon.com [mailto:pgd@telehorizon.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:55 AM
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> Subject: NAT within a NAT
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> 
> Hello there,
> I have a LAN which is "hidden" from the world using NAT and i 
> want to setup a
> sub-NAT-network within my LAN. That is: using another NAT 
> server to hide this
> subnetwork from the rest of the LAN. 
> 
> Can anyone tell me if this is possible?
> 
> bye,
> paisios
> 
> (I hope I gave a clear picture of this peculiar situation..)
> 
> 
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> 
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Hi.
(Remember to include a subject)

I'm going to answer question 1) the Iomega issue I leave
up to someone else.

1) Yes.  I've installed/used JDK on both 3.51 and 4.2
   without any problems.
   Grab the package from sun and you should be up 'n'
   running in no time.

PeTe


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>=20
> PS1. Ok, ok, I know I have to upgrade...
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Hey guys,

  A few weeks ago I decided that I hated having to reboot to windows to run 
StarOffice.  So I got off my lazy ass and decided to install it on FreeBSD 
release 4.1.1  I didn't find it in the ports collection or under 
/stand/sysinstall so I went onto the site and downloaded the port from 
freebsd.org.  But the port didn't work, it spewed forth a half dozen errors 
and died.  I have fixed them (most were little shit like the lack of an md5 
file) and have re-archived the port.  If you would like a copy of my working 
port just e-mail me and I'll send it.  You can look through it yourselves if 
you like.  Please keep up the great work as FreeBSD is the greatest OS on 
the planet!!  Thanks again.

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	Hello,

	I have to buy hardware for sharing storage between 8-10 Freebsd
servers. My fisrt goal is a little more security for this storage (Raid-5
can do the job). The second goal is separate storage space for each server,
probably on one box.

	The servers are for big traffic DNS, Mail, FTP, ... 

	My first thought was to set up an NFS server, but i am interested in
setting up something like Fiber-Channel or an scsi storage bay.

	Can anyone point me to an entry on suported hardware with FreeBSD 4.X.
all i have found is a reference to Qlogic ISP 2100 and 2200 in LINT file.

Thanks,

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 12:11:16PM +0100, Katerina Markoy wrote:
> 1)Is it possible to install JDK1.3.0?
>   If "NO" then, can I using the Linux emulator?!?

The linux-jdk-1.30 is in the ports collection so it will be easy
to install it.

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The position is simple:

Try both of them.  Pick the one you like.

As far as the Windows community being afraid of Linux, I'm
pretty sure that this is just some wishful
thinking from the Linux community.  I think, though, that
it's more accurate to say that the Windows community is
mesmerized by it.  It's like the cat staring into a fishtank,
they can't quite understand what's going on, they just know
that there's a lot of interesting activity going on there,
and they would like to figure out how to put a paw in
there and grab some of that activity for themselves, without
getting wet.

With that said, though, it is certainly the case that there
is a kind of a war of development models - ie: Published (as
opposed to Open) Source vs Closed Source.  Most of the Windows developers
are from the Closed Source camp, they were raised that way and they
are pretty adamant that they don't want their code visible to
the public.  Originally, most of the UNIX folks were the same
way, but I'd hazard a guess that it's getting close to 50-50
of Closed UNIX source folks as Open UNIX source folks.  There's
a lot of question that if a major UNIX commercial software vendor
were to open their source, that it really would make a difference.

I'm going to illustrate this by discussing a hypothetical situation
of Oracle publishing their source to their UNIX database product.  The
knee-jerk response is that if they do this that all their rivals are
going to steal all their techniques.  However, I think that actually
 it would make it even harder for their rivals
to steal code techniques.  For example, today, if Informix goes and hires 10
of the top Oracle developers, then 6 months later comes out with a
competing database product that does a similar function as an existing
Oracle one, then it's pretty difficult to drag Informix into court
and conclusively prove that the code was stolen.  Your going to get
all of the 10 developers swearing that they didn't violate their
NDA's with Oracle, and then what is the court supposed to to - call
all of them liars?

If, on the other hand, Oracle source were published, and Informix were
to steal a bunch of developers and do the same thing, why then
it would be a lot harder for Informix to claim that their developers
didn't appropriate code from Oracle - since the Oracle code is hanging
right out in front of God and everybody.  In fact, there would be
tremendous pressure on Informix to open their code to prove to the
world that they wern't a pack of thieves.

Another argument against publishing commercial source is that your going
to lose sales, but this is poppycock.  Nobody that is running
a million-dollar database installation is going to employ
programmers to roll their own database from published Oracle code - for
starters it completely destroys any chance of getting any support
from Oracle, and if you have a failure your so screwed it's
not even funny.

Not only that, but if Oracle were to publish source with the
stipulation that it wasn't to be used commercially, then
all it would take is a disgruntled admin that was fired
from some company to blow the whistle on them rolling their
own source, and the SPA and everyone else would be
issuing massive fines.  I think if you explore this you
will find that simply publishing commercial source isn't
going to materially affect sales - about all it would do is
enable some shoestring operations to illegally use your
source for commercial operations, and those folks don't
currently represent a market anyway.

If there is any fear in the Windows community, it's much more
a fear of the market starting to realize that they can demand
that Windows software developers publish source.  Right now, I think
that it's safe to say that few Linux and FreeBSD users would
use programs that they cannot get source to.  Well, that's almost
a 180 degree turnaround from 10 years ago.  I remember 10 years back
when the "cheap UNIXs" were Covalent and Minix.  I don't remember
Covalent ever opening their source, and as for Minix, it has a
tremendously restrictive license on it's source.  Yet, people were
very happy to get binary-only distributions of them.

If the Windows market follows this, we could well see a scenario
in 10 years where users tell Microsoft that unless they publish their
Windows
source that they aren't going to buy any more Microsoft
products.  Today, there's kind of an implicit assumption that anything
that's public source is automatically licensed so that it's free to
use without compensation.  ie: there's a linkage in the public
mind between truly Open Source, and source that is merely published
but not really Open.  But, this really isn't true - look at
the situation with book copyrights, after all.  For example,
with my book, it's certainly published, but you don't see a bunch
of illegal printing factories grinding out copies down at the
waterfront, do you?  Yet, using the "people will steal our code
if we publish our source" logic on book publishing, you would be
seeing bookstores flooded with Harry Potter books that were illegally
printed in the back room of some sleazy dive.  Well, you don't see
this because books are protected by Copyright law - and guess what,
SO IS SOFTWARE!  So, someone needs to explain to me how it is that
the SAME copyright law that protects book publishers from having
their published books from being ripped off, is NOT going to protect
software developers from having their published code from being
ripped off.  Not only that but the book  publishing industry doesen't
even have some industry organization like the SPA that finks can
call and get $1000 rewards for ratting out piracy.

Frankly, the REAL reason that most of the Windows developers don't
publish their code is simply because their code is so CRAPPY,
because it's developed in pressure-cooker environments, or by
irresponsible young programmers that are given 2 months to do
a task, and spend 6 weeks playing foosball on the foosball table
that is in their office that they pushed the company to get
for them, then cram for 2 weeks to shat out something that barely
runs and has had no testing whatsoever done to it.  Most of
these Windows companies would be publicaly humiliated if
their code was available for perusal.  Once
the computing public wakes up to this they are going to start
asking to see the code, and Linux, FreeBSD and the rest of the
Open Source community is bringing this closer to reality every day.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com


>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
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>
>
>What is the FreeBSD position vs linux and windows ? I have
>read somewhere
>windows community is afraid of linux because there are many
>software now on
>linux, and all free. And what about FreeBSD ? Does it grows
>fast enough to
>frightened windows community too ? I know unix based OS are
>more stable than
>windows... And what about apps ?
>
>Thanks.
>
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The comment about a 21 pin serial connector must have been a typo.
Generally, PC's come with serial connectors as DB-9 or DB-25.
-Otter

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With most computers they are marked .... if you've got one 9 pin & one
21
pin serial port the 9 pin one is invariably COM1 (cuaa0)

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> hey guys how is everyone?
>
> ok here we go, i have just installed a us robotics externel modem,
now i
know
> to setup ppp i have to figure out what serial port this modem is
running
on,
> but unfortunatley i have no way of doing this (that i know of) how
can i
find
> this out? i can do it on my own from there (i think)
>
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If you have the ports collection installed, you should have looked
under /usr/ports/editors/staroffice52. If it isn't there, then maybe
you have an old ports collection. Maybe you refuse the editors
section. Who knows? It is available though.
-Otter

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Subject: Star Office 5.2 port


Hey guys,

  A few weeks ago I decided that I hated having to reboot to windows
to run
StarOffice.  So I got off my lazy ass and decided to install it on
FreeBSD
release 4.1.1  I didn't find it in the ports collection or under
/stand/sysinstall so I went onto the site and downloaded the port from
freebsd.org.  But the port didn't work, it spewed forth a half dozen
errors
and died.  I have fixed them (most were little shit like the lack of
an md5
file) and have re-archived the port.  If you would like a copy of my
working
port just e-mail me and I'll send it.  You can look through it
yourselves if
you like.  Please keep up the great work as FreeBSD is the greatest OS
on
the planet!!  Thanks again.

Kurtis Peterson
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Yorkton, sk, Canada
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Here's what i've tried so far:

I have setup my NAT using the 10.0.0.0 range.
I set up the one of the NATed PCs to be a NAT server as well (using the
192.168.0.0 range). I've put a second network card in it and on this second card
I have connected another PC (the new 192.168.0.0 sub-NAT-network). 

More or less the following situation (where you see a '#', it is a network
card):

             10.0.0.0        PC3     192.168.0.0
         +----+    +-PC1    +----+
         |1st |    |        |2nd |  
world<---#NAT #----+--------#NAT #-----PC4
         |serv|    |        |serv|     
         +----+    +-PC2    +----+


The problem is that the when I give on PC3 "ifconfig fxp1"
(my second network card that gives to PC4) I get the frustrating message "no
carrier".

And of course PC4 gets "no rout to host"..

Any ideas??

thanks,
dimitri & paisios,

PC. I use no DHCP ..



Quoting Per Tore Larsen <per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com>:

> First of all, yes it's possible.
> Setup the second NAT server in the same way you did on
> first NAT server.
> 
> The problem that might arise is when a machine on the
> second LAN wants for axess the "world".  This can be
> solved for web by using a proxy but dunno how
> ftp/telnet/ssh will behave.
> 
> Try it on a test benchfirst and you will get your answer.
> Also depending on you network, you could make FreeBSD answer
> both net 192.168.1 and 192.168.2 using alias in ifconfig.
> (If you use DHCP you might need to have two network adapters
> to physically separate the networks)
> 
> PeTe
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:55 AM
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> > Subject: NAT within a NAT
> > 
> > 
> > Hello there,
> > I have a LAN which is "hidden" from the world using NAT and i 
> > want to setup a
> > sub-NAT-network within my LAN. That is: using another NAT 
> > server to hide this
> > subnetwork from the rest of the LAN. 
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me if this is possible?
> > 
> > bye,
> > paisios
> > 
> > (I hope I gave a clear picture of this peculiar situation..)
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
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FreeBSD is a great operating system, a capable friend when you need to do
serious stuff like setting up a lan or running a server.. 

But sometimes i really miss all these silly, little things like watching a 
movie trailer from the internet...

bye,
dimitri


Quoting Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>:

> On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 04:17:38AM -0500, Donald J . Maddox wrote:
> > xanim does QT :)
> 
> Sort of. It doesn't support the Sorenson codec which is what nearly
> all quicktime movies found "in the wild" use. There are no
> implementations of Sorenson for non-Mac/Windows platforms, AFAIK.
> 
> Kris
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I don't know if this will help, but in the January issue of Linux
Magazine they discuss how to set up a minimal NIS client/server.

Their web site is at:

http://www.linux-mag.com

Otherwise the only definitive guide is:

"Managing NFS and NIS" by Albitz & Liu published from Oreilly and
Associates.

Mark

On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 12:50:24AM -0500, Beech Rintoul wrote:
> I'm attempting to mount a directory from a linux box on our net.
> It fails with the following:
> galaxy# mount -o soft intake:/usr /mnt
> nfs: bad MNT RPC: Timed out
> 
> Do I need a special command to mount it? The server on the linux box is 
> running and the directory is exported.
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This is all related to how both DOS and Unix end the lines in a text
file.

In DOS, they end with a carriage return and a line feed. In Unix, they
end with only a line feed. That is the extra control characters you
see at the end of the line when you are editing them in FreeBSD.

There are utilities to convert and get rid of the extra characters. I
have been able to do so with vi in the past, but consider when you
remove the extra characters in FreeBSD, that when you go back into
Windows and edit the same file....the lines all wrap to the same line
and you see junk characters there as well (line feeds without a
carriage return - which look like little black boxes).

You may want to check out:

www.samba.org

to see if there are any advanced configuration options dealing with
the translation. I believe there may be, but am not sure as it's been
a long time since I've dealt with samba.

Mark

On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:08:03AM -0500, Prasad.Chemburkar@Vashimail.ltitl.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi!
> Everyone,
> 
> i have SAMBA working between  Windows and FreeBSD with users able to logon from
> windows.
> i face problem when transferring a text file from Windows to FreeBSD server ie
> when file is copied from Windows explorer to
> FreeBSD drive, it  is copied properly but when i do telnet to FreeBSD server and
> use vi editor to see it, it shows some junk characters. i guess by default text
> files are transfered in binary mode so vi editor shows control characters, how
> to get rid of this problem? any specific settings in /usr/local/etc/smb.conf
> file.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> regards
> prasad
> 
> 
> 
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 07:34:31AM +0700, Roger Merritt wrote:
> Is there a utility which will identify which processes are using which
> files/devices? I ran across a posting in Deja News that Sun has a utility
> called fuser that does this, but it doesn't exist (at least under that
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On 16 Jan 2001 11:37:45 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you =
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>I would like to use a FreeBSD machine as a dedicated router, for a small
>subnet of 'real' IP's. The IP's will be assigned to us by our upstream
>ISP, whom we will be connecting to using PPPOE over DSL. Our current
>situation is as follows:

The setup is quite simple.  The ISP would give you one address for the =
PPP
ip and a small subnet for your ethernet devices. If your ISP uses RADIUS,

myppoeuser Auth-Type =3D System
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your PPPoE is *not* on.  Set your client machines to 172.16.4.2 and .3.
Thats it. You dont need to run RIP or any other routing protocol. If you
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actually I've never counted the pins :)

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> The comment about a 21 pin serial connector must have been a typo.
> Generally, PC's come with serial connectors as DB-9 or DB-25.
> -Otter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
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> With most computers they are marked .... if you've got one 9 pin & one
> 21
> pin serial port the 9 pin one is invariably COM1 (cuaa0)
>
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> > hey guys how is everyone?
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> > ok here we go, i have just installed a us robotics externel modem,
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> > to setup ppp i have to figure out what serial port this modem is
> running
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> The problem is that the when I give on PC3 "ifconfig fxp1"
> (my second network card that gives to PC4) I get the 
> frustrating message "no
> carrier".
Ok.. now when you say "ifconfig fxp1" is that the hole line
or is it more like
1) "ifconfig fxp1 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
or in /etc/rc.conf
2) ifconfig_fxp1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"

Also has the card more than 1 transiver? Depending on the
network card this may the problem.

Could you try the option 2) for /etc/rc.conf? Do you get the
same error message? The 1) may be flawed since I can't test
it and it's been a while since I used ifconfig that way.

Have you tried a diffrent network card? Same result?

The rest of the layout and intentions looks fine.

PeTe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgd@telehorizon.com [mailto:pgd@telehorizon.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:44 PM
> To: Per Tore Larsen
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: NAT within a NAT
> 
> 
> Here's what i've tried so far:
> 
> I have setup my NAT using the 10.0.0.0 range.
> I set up the one of the NATed PCs to be a NAT server as well 
> (using the
> 192.168.0.0 range). I've put a second network card in it and 
> on this second card
> I have connected another PC (the new 192.168.0.0 sub-NAT-network). 

> 
> More or less the following situation (where you see a '#', it 
> is a network
> card):
> 
>              10.0.0.0        PC3     192.168.0.0
>          +----+    +-PC1    +----+
>          |1st |    |        |2nd |  
> world<---#NAT #----+--------#NAT #-----PC4
>          |serv|    |        |serv|     
>          +----+    +-PC2    +----+
> 
> 
> The problem is that the when I give on PC3 "ifconfig fxp1"
> (my second network card that gives to PC4) I get the 
> frustrating message "no
> carrier".
> 
> And of course PC4 gets "no rout to host"..
> 
> Any ideas??
> 
> thanks,
> dimitri & paisios,
> 
> PC. I use no DHCP ..
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Per Tore Larsen <per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com>:
> 
> > First of all, yes it's possible.
> > Setup the second NAT server in the same way you did on
> > first NAT server.
> > 
> > The problem that might arise is when a machine on the
> > second LAN wants for axess the "world".  This can be
> > solved for web by using a proxy but dunno how
> > ftp/telnet/ssh will behave.
> > 
> > Try it on a test benchfirst and you will get your answer.
> > Also depending on you network, you could make FreeBSD answer
> > both net 192.168.1 and 192.168.2 using alias in ifconfig.
> > (If you use DHCP you might need to have two network adapters
> > to physically separate the networks)
> > 
> > PeTe
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pgd@telehorizon.com [mailto:pgd@telehorizon.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:55 AM
> > > To: Freebsd
> > > Subject: NAT within a NAT
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello there,
> > > I have a LAN which is "hidden" from the world using NAT and i 
> > > want to setup a
> > > sub-NAT-network within my LAN. That is: using another NAT 
> > > server to hide this
> > > subnetwork from the rest of the LAN. 
> > > 
> > > Can anyone tell me if this is possible?
> > > 
> > > bye,
> > > paisios
> > > 
> > > (I hope I gave a clear picture of this peculiar situation..)
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > 
> 


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hi again,

I meant, when I give "ifconfig fxp1" at the prompt! (to see how the card is
configured)..
                 
In my rc.conf (FreeBSD 4.2) i have indeed the following line:
ifconfig_fxp1="inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"

thanks

PS.. one transiver..


Quoting Per Tore Larsen <per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com>:

> 
> > The problem is that the when I give on PC3 "ifconfig fxp1"
> > (my second network card that gives to PC4) I get the 
> > frustrating message "no
> > carrier".
> Ok.. now when you say "ifconfig fxp1" is that the hole line
> or is it more like
> 1) "ifconfig fxp1 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> or in /etc/rc.conf
> 2) ifconfig_fxp1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> 
> Also has the card more than 1 transiver? Depending on the
> network card this may the problem.
> 
> Could you try the option 2) for /etc/rc.conf? Do you get the
> same error message? The 1) may be flawed since I can't test
> it and it's been a while since I used ifconfig that way.
> 
> Have you tried a diffrent network card? Same result?
> 
> The rest of the layout and intentions looks fine.
> 
> PeTe
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pgd@telehorizon.com [mailto:pgd@telehorizon.com]
> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:44 PM
> > To: Per Tore Larsen
> > Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> > Subject: RE: NAT within a NAT
> > 
> > 
> > Here's what i've tried so far:
> > 
> > I have setup my NAT using the 10.0.0.0 range.
> > I set up the one of the NATed PCs to be a NAT server as well 
> > (using the
> > 192.168.0.0 range). I've put a second network card in it and 
> > on this second card
> > I have connected another PC (the new 192.168.0.0 sub-NAT-network). 
> 
> > 
> > More or less the following situation (where you see a '#', it 
> > is a network
> > card):
> > 
> >              10.0.0.0        PC3     192.168.0.0
> >          +----+    +-PC1    +----+
> >          |1st |    |        |2nd |  
> > world<---#NAT #----+--------#NAT #-----PC4
> >          |serv|    |        |serv|     
> >          +----+    +-PC2    +----+
> > 
> > 
> > The problem is that the when I give on PC3 "ifconfig fxp1"
> > (my second network card that gives to PC4) I get the 
> > frustrating message "no
> > carrier".
> > 
> > And of course PC4 gets "no rout to host"..
> > 
> > Any ideas??
> > 
> > thanks,
> > dimitri & paisios,
> > 
> > PC. I use no DHCP ..
> > 


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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Crist J. Clark [mailto:cjclark@reflexnet.net]
>Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:57 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: 'Arcady Genkin'; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: imap and pop3 via stunnel (was: UW-IMAP server and secure
>authentication)
>
>
>On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:33:09AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
>Crist J. Clark
>> >Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 8:18 PM
>> >To: Arcady Genkin
>> >Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>> >Subject: Re: imap and pop3 via stunnel (was: UW-IMAP server
>>
>> Your discounting the ability to transfer the key by other mechanisms.
>
>No, I mentioned explicitly that secure channels do exist in my initial
>response as pointed out above. But those methods are out-of-band and
>not within the SSL protocol itself.
>

Sorry about that, I missed it when I first posted.

>> Here's a thought, a CA can set itself up, get a Verisign certificate,
>> then use it to bootstrap their own signatures into interested parties
>> web browsers, than those users can go to other sites that are running
>> certs signed by that CA.
>
>I think anyone who paid to get signed by someone who distributes their
>cert like that has been had.

Who said anything about charging anyone - I didn't!

>You are counting on users following bad
>security practices to get these guys' certs in place. Well, if morons
>are your target market, then that actually might be a good choice.
>

No, because what is a CA?  All a CA is, is some guy that says he's
authoratative.

If the user with a browser that already has a out-of-band-delivered
signature in it connects to a CA that is using a cert from that CA,
why then supposedly that channel is secure, and invulnerable to a
man-in-the-middle attack, right?  Once they have a secure channel,
then if they get a key, that key isn't accessible to a crack.

Now, I can hear your next argument already - how do multiple users
determine if that hypothetical CA is indeed the SAME CA and not an
imposter?  Well, all I have to say is how do YOU know that the certs
distributed with YOUR version of Netscape are indeed legitimate?
Are you going to argue that every single user that has Netscape has
a guarenteed channel to Netscape for their installation?

Just because the Netscape that is installed has a cert delivered
out-of-band, there's no guarentee that the out-of-band delivery method
is any more secure than anything else.  What about all of those
MSN, Earthlink, and AOL CD's that arrive in junk mail, all of those
have installable copies of Netscape and IE on them.  Are you going to
say that no possibility exists that the certs in them haven't been
tampered?  On the contrary, I'd say that Earthlink and AOL have a
vested interest in tampering with those certs - if only so they can
insert even more certs for their OWN SSL servers.

Or what about the interesting possibility of writing a virus that
as part of it's infection, overwrites any IE and Netscape certs it
finds on the system with it's own.  Combine that with a DNS attack
of a popular credit-card accepting site and the results might
prove most interesting.

I think you can see where I'm going with this line - the honest to god
truth is there's no fricken way to absolutely, positively guarentee
that the cert that you have in your browser or whatever is, indeed,
what it is supposed to be unless you get off your ass and drive
over to the CA and walk in their office and down the hall to the
guy who actually generates the signature file and he hands you
a floppy disk with the file on it.

>I count certs from 27 different signers in a freshly installed
>Netscape browser. There are over 80 certs total. These include the
>signers listed above plus other little joints like the USPS, AT&T,
>IBM, etc. Verisign is not the only game in town. And frankly, I don't
>really like the idea that my browser by default would trust all of
>these guys.
>

This ignores one of the fundamental requirements of good web design
and that is to not design to a specific browser or version of
browser and only Verisign is guarenteed to be available
on the older browsers.

>> Frankly, in my opinion it's a damn shame that Verisign has been
>> able to successfully propagandize most of the Internet into believing
>> that they are the Only Way Truth and Light to secure data
>transmission
>> on the Internet.  It's tremendously retarded the growth and use of
>> SSL on the Internet, in my opinion.
>
>I really am unaware of a basis for such a claim. Are there scores
>people who want to get a signed SSL cert and have been denied the
>privilege?

Of course nobody have been DENIED, you know perfectly well that
it's against the Constitution to deny people anything - nobody is denied
anything in this society, even if they want to kill themselves and others
with tobacco, or SUV's, or assult weapons, there's plenty of
lawyers that are going to ensure that they get the chance.

However, I can say that in my capacity as the guy that gets asked
the question at the ISP I work for, the single biggest reason that
people DON'T pursue SSL is because they perceive that a SSL cert
costs $100 or more.  Now, maybe to you that's not a lot of money (to me
it's not a lot either) but it seems to be to most of the folks publishing
websites on our servers that accept credit cards via forms and whatnot.
Now, maybe we don't have SCORES of people with websites, but we
have a far higher number of websites that take credit cards with
no SSL at all, then sites that take cards and have SSL.  (and,
please let's not go into how bad this is, I know and the site
owners have been told but they do it anyway.  They probably also
drive SUV's too.)

I squarely blame Verisign for this because they were the ones that
got into the market first and viewed it as some sort of golden money
machine for cranking out cash while they sat on their asses and
built a giant automated process that actually did the work.  Then
they built a giant marketing engine that spent most of it's time
justifying why they should be paid their $250 a year for a commercial
cert for sitting on their asses doing nothing.  Of course,
today the cat is out of the bag at least among SSL folks, and this
is why Verisign went down the tubes and Network Solutions was able
to buy them.

If Verisign had charged a REASONABLE amount for a commercial cert,
like $15 a year, then today just about ALL websites would automatically
come as SSL sites out-of-the-box and we wouldn't be having this
discussion.  They would probably have made a pile more money
too just in the volume, and would probably still exist as a stinking
rich, proud independent company with tentacles everywhere (like
Network Solutions is today) instead of ending up a one-trick pony that got
ate up (by Network Solutions).

Security companies and other institutions who do this have
>sprung out of the woodwork. The cool thing about selling a cert
>signing service is that it takes very little actual work. Like you
>point out, the real challenge and costs are in marketing and
>branding.

:-/  Yup - just want we need, more industries in this country that
produce a product that's worth practically nothing, and plow
most of their profits into marketing and sales people to justify
spending a shitpile of money on it.  I sure wish that we could
export bullshit, then maybe the trade balance wouldn't
be so out of wack.

>--
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Any ideas what happened here?

unia:venglin:/home/venglin# uname -smr ; uptime
FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386
 1:33  up 88 days, 23:40, 6 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.17, 0.49

unia:venglin:/home/venglin# dmesg | egrep -e '(trap|swapper)'
kernel trap 9 with interrupts disabled
pid 70383 (swapper), uid 0: exited on signal 10 (core dumped)

unia:venglin:/home/venglin# ls -la /swapper.core
-rw-------  1 root  wheel  8192 22 Sty 13:30 /swapper.core

unia:venglin:/home/venglin# ps auwx | grep swapper
root      50422  0.0  0.0     0    0  ??  Z    -         0:00.00  (swapper)
root      17620  0.0  0.0     0    0  ??  Z    -         0:00.00  (swapper)
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> hi again,
> 
> I meant, when I give "ifconfig fxp1" at the prompt!
Easy with the coffee. 
> (to see how the card is configured)..
Sorry for that misundersating
                  
> In my rc.conf (FreeBSD 4.2) i have indeed the following line:
> ifconfig_fxp1="inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
Did a thinking and found a possible error:

With TP cable connected to switch (same with hub):

xl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST>
media: autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>) status: active
								    ^^^^^
The end of this line tells me that cable is connected.
If I pull the TP plug status will change to:
status: no carrier

So, between the second NAT server and the client inside this,
do you use the correct cables? (hub,switch indicate connected
network card?)
If you are using TP directly between the machines, remember
the cable needs to be a crossover.

That should solve the problem.
If it didn't, send the output of "ifconfig fxp1".

PeTe

(I'm covering all options, so if this you know you need
crossovers bear with me)
 
> thanks
> 
> PS.. one transiver..
> 
> 
> Quoting Per Tore Larsen <per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com>:
> 
> > 
> > > The problem is that the when I give on PC3 "ifconfig fxp1"
> > > (my second network card that gives to PC4) I get the 
> > > frustrating message "no
> > > carrier".
> > Ok.. now when you say "ifconfig fxp1" is that the hole line
> > or is it more like
> > 1) "ifconfig fxp1 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> > or in /etc/rc.conf
> > 2) ifconfig_fxp1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> > 
> > Also has the card more than 1 transiver? Depending on the
> > network card this may the problem.
> > 
> > Could you try the option 2) for /etc/rc.conf? Do you get the
> > same error message? The 1) may be flawed since I can't test
> > it and it's been a while since I used ifconfig that way.
> > 
> > Have you tried a diffrent network card? Same result?
> > 
> > The rest of the layout and intentions looks fine.
> > 
> > PeTe
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pgd@telehorizon.com [mailto:pgd@telehorizon.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:44 PM
> > > To: Per Tore Larsen
> > > Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> > > Subject: RE: NAT within a NAT
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Here's what i've tried so far:
> > > 
> > > I have setup my NAT using the 10.0.0.0 range.
> > > I set up the one of the NATed PCs to be a NAT server as well 
> > > (using the
> > > 192.168.0.0 range). I've put a second network card in it and 
> > > on this second card
> > > I have connected another PC (the new 192.168.0.0 
> sub-NAT-network). 
> > 
> > > 
> > > More or less the following situation (where you see a '#', it 
> > > is a network
> > > card):
> > > 
> > >              10.0.0.0        PC3     192.168.0.0
> > >          +----+    +-PC1    +----+
> > >          |1st |    |        |2nd |  
> > > world<---#NAT #----+--------#NAT #-----PC4
> > >          |serv|    |        |serv|     
> > >          +----+    +-PC2    +----+
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The problem is that the when I give on PC3 "ifconfig fxp1"
> > > (my second network card that gives to PC4) I get the 
> > > frustrating message "no
> > > carrier".
> > > 
> > > And of course PC4 gets "no rout to host"..
> > > 
> > > Any ideas??
> > > 
> > > thanks,
> > > dimitri & paisios,
> > > 
> > > PC. I use no DHCP ..
> > > 
> 


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Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> types:
> > Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> types:
> > > > Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> types:
> > > > > On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:48, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > > > > > Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios <gustavo@ifour.com.br> types:
> > > > > > > I compiled and executed a small program and it's eating about 336
> > > > > > > of real memory (rss) and 840 of virtual size memory (vsz), may some
> > > > > > > one explain why a simple program eats about 1 MB of memory?
> > > > > > You linked it shared, right? That 1MB includes all of every shared
> > > > > > library it uses, whether it uses those functions or not.
> > > > > Pardon ! It certainly does not ! That is the point of shared libraries -
> > > > > the code is *shared* between processes using it. The required code is
> > > > > then made dynamically available.
> > > > 
> > > > Shared libraries are mapped into the memory space of the process. As
> > > > such, they are part of the memory of the process, and should be
> > > > counted when adding up the memory of the process, so it'll be the rss
> > > > (if it's resident) and vsz of the process.
> > > > 
> > > > Whether or not the physical memory is shared is another question, and
> > > > I'll let you all continue to debate that. I will say that, given the
> > > > price of disks, if the memory isn't shared, a system with static
> > > > binaries might be a better choice than one with dynamic binaries.
> > > 
> > > So what does the word shared in shared memory mean then :)
> > > Hard to see what the point is if all processes load their own copy
> > > of shared memory libraries at run time..
> > > I think you will find that physically speaking there is only one libc...
> > > in memory under the shared model.
> > 
> > Since you replied to me, and I didn't have an opinion about shared
> > libraries being shared on memory or just disk, I'm assuming you're
> > claiming that my analysis of the way libc is used and the memory
> > counted.
> > 
> > Checking usage is easy: just truss a binary that uses shared libc, and
> > look for it in the output. Here's what I find:
> > 
> > access("/usr/lib/libc.so.3",0)                   = 0 (0x0)
> > open("/usr/lib/libc.so.3",0,027757775424)        = 3 (0x3)
> > fstat(3,0xbfbffae4)                              = 0 (0x0)
> > read(0x3,0xbfbfeab4,0x1000)                      = 4096 (0x1000)
> > mmap(0x0,643072,0x5,0x2,3,0x0)                   = 672337920 (0x28131000)
> > mmap(0x281b5000,20480,0x3,0x12,3,0x83000)        = 672878592 (0x281b5000)
> > mmap(0x281ba000,81920,0x3,0x1012,-1,0x0)         = 672899072 (0x281ba000)
> > close(3)                                         = 0 (0x0)
> > 
> > I.e. - it gets opened and mmap'ed into memory exactly like I
> > said. After it's mapped in, a second area is allocated r/w instead of
> > r/x, and a second r/w area is allocated from swap. They are all part
> > of the memory used by the process, and show up in the appropriate
> > sizes.
> Yes, it is mapped into the processes's address space.
> It is not copied into it.

Correct. This pretty much settles the question of whether the space is
shared or not - some of it is, and some of it isn't :-). The first
segment (628K) is shared and non-writable; the second (20K) is shared
with copy-on-write, and the third (80K) isn't shared at all. See the
mmap man page and /usr/include/sys/mman.h for details.

The answer to the original question is still the same, though. The
reason the virtual set size of the program is so large is that the
virtual space of the process includes libc.so (by mapping into place),
which adds nearly 3/4ths of a meg. The resident set size should
include all pages in that shared hunk of memory that are resident, no
matter which process using it referenced the page.

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This is the config I used to route all request to my webserver from the
internet to my internal
web server.
 
rdr <ext. netcard> <ext.ip>/32 port 80 -> 10.1.1.2 port 80
 
Observ I use ipnat, and I have omitted the rules for NAT'ing my internal
net.
 
PeTe

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How may I setup Static Nat on a FreeBsd firewall?, i need to make a static
nat for my webserver which uses a private ip (192.168.1.1) to make it
visible as a public ip webserver. Should I use proxy ARP?
 
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<DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This 
is the config I used to route all request&nbsp;to my webserver from the internet 
to my internal</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>web 
server.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>rdr 
&lt;ext. netcard&gt; &lt;ext.ip&gt;/32 port 80 -&gt; 10.1.1.2 port 
80</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Observ 
I use ipnat, and I have omitted the rules for NAT'ing my internal 
net.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Claudio Petronio 
  [mailto:cpetronio@argentinaanalytica.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 22, 
  2001 2:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B> questions@FreeBSD.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Static 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How may&nbsp;I setup Static Nat on a FreeBsd 
  firewall?, i need to make a static nat&nbsp;for my webserver which uses a 
  private ip (192.168.1.1) to make it visible as a public ip webserver. Should I 
  use proxy ARP?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks in advance,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Claudio 
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yes! that must be it!!!
i had forgot all about crossovers!

i'll try it and i'll let you know the result..

I really appreciate your help,
thanks :)


Quoting Per Tore Larsen <per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com>:

> > hi again,
> > 
> > I meant, when I give "ifconfig fxp1" at the prompt!
> Easy with the coffee. 
> > (to see how the card is configured)..
> Sorry for that misundersating
>                   
> > In my rc.conf (FreeBSD 4.2) i have indeed the following line:
> > ifconfig_fxp1="inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> Did a thinking and found a possible error:
> 
> With TP cable connected to switch (same with hub):
> 
> xl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST>
> media: autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>) status: active
>                                                                   ^^^^^
> The end of this line tells me that cable is connected.
> If I pull the TP plug status will change to:
> status: no carrier
> 
> So, between the second NAT server and the client inside this,
> do you use the correct cables? (hub,switch indicate connected
> network card?)
> If you are using TP directly between the machines, remember
> the cable needs to be a crossover.
> 
> That should solve the problem.
> If it didn't, send the output of "ifconfig fxp1".
> 
> PeTe
> 
> (I'm covering all options, so if this you know you need
> crossovers bear with me)
>  
> > thanks
> > 
> > PS.. one transiver..
> > 
> > 
> > Quoting Per Tore Larsen <per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com>:
> > 
> > > 
> > > > The problem is that the when I give on PC3 "ifconfig
fxp1"
> > > > (my second network card that gives to PC4) I get the 
> > > > frustrating message "no
> > > > carrier".
> > > Ok.. now when you say "ifconfig fxp1" is that the hole
line
> > > or is it more like
> > > 1) "ifconfig fxp1 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask
255.255.255.0"
> > > or in /etc/rc.conf
> > > 2) ifconfig_fxp1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask
255.255.255.0"
> > > 
> > > Also has the card more than 1 transiver? Depending on the
> > > network card this may the problem.
> > > 
> > > Could you try the option 2) for /etc/rc.conf? Do you get the
> > > same error message? The 1) may be flawed since I can't test
> > > it and it's been a while since I used ifconfig that way.
> > > 
> > > Have you tried a diffrent network card? Same result?
> > > 
> > > The rest of the layout and intentions looks fine.
> > > 
> > > PeTe
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: pgd@telehorizon.com [mailto:pgd@telehorizon.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:44 PM
> > > > To: Per Tore Larsen
> > > > Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> > > > Subject: RE: NAT within a NAT
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Here's what i've tried so far:
> > > > 
> > > > I have setup my NAT using the 10.0.0.0 range.
> > > > I set up the one of the NATed PCs to be a NAT server as well
> > > > (using the
> > > > 192.168.0.0 range). I've put a second network card in it and
> > > > on this second card
> > > > I have connected another PC (the new 192.168.0.0 
> > sub-NAT-network). 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > More or less the following situation (where you see a '#',
it 
> > > > is a network
> > > > card):
> > > > 
> > > >              10.0.0.0        PC3     192.168.0.0
> > > >          +----+    +-PC1    +----+
> > > >          |1st |    |        |2nd |  
> > > > world<---#NAT #----+--------#NAT #-----PC4
> > > >          |serv|    |        |serv|     
> > > >          +----+    +-PC2    +----+
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The problem is that the when I give on PC3 "ifconfig
fxp1"
> > > > (my second network card that gives to PC4) I get the 
> > > > frustrating message "no
> > > > carrier".
> > > > 
> > > > And of course PC4 gets "no rout to host"..
> > > > 
> > > > Any ideas??
> > > > 
> > > > thanks,
> > > > dimitri & paisios,
> > > > 
> > > > PC. I use no DHCP ..
> > > > 
> > 
> 


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geez, and I find your one email more offensive ... wonder why ...

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so, by answering his rant, you've just cost yourself how much?  wait, by
my asking, how much have I cost you? *raised eyebrow*

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Cliff Sarginson wrote:

> Hello,
> We don't all have rich daddies paying for our ASDL links.
> Some of us pay to be online.
> Sending pointless messages like that just shows what a spoilt brat
> he is.
> Plus all the useless messages it has generated (like this one).
>
> Cliff
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Here's a nice overview of the different types of BSD.
http://unix.about.com/compute/unix/library/weekly/aa011501a.htm



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Free, ok, but what means BSD ?
I really like your daemon logo... Can I find some backgrounds (wallpapers)
with him ?

And what is the best newsgroups servers for FreeBSD newsgroups ? Because the
newsgroups from my ISP has only a few messages (555 for freebsd.misc and 1
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Lets do a hypothetical setup...
 
rdr ed0 0.0.0.0/0 port 80 -> 10.1.1.2 port 80
 
when i put 0.0.0.0/0 it tells ipnat to lookup the dhcp adresse automatically
in everytime
it starts. (Actually, this you need to try, since I've dont use dhcp on my
internet line.)
 
How is have you setup you existing ipnat.conf file? Here you should see how
ipnat
implements dhcp in its table.
 
Also, you need to punch a hole through port 80 your firewall to let internet
axess your
webserver inside you LAN.
 
Also for reference:
www.freebsddiary.org <http://www.freebsddiary.org/>  can answer alot of your
questions.  Look under ipnat,ppp or ipfw.
 
PeTe
 
(Remember to send a copy to freebsd questions so other users may have a
chance to
flame me when/if I make any obvious mistakes.)
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy Quinlan [mailto:katinka@magestower.com]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:58 PM
To: Per Tore Larsen
Subject: Re: Static Nat


Ok I take it that <ext.netcard> ed0 ?
 
what would I put for the <ext.ip> as mine is dynamic ?
 
 
Kat.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Per Tore Larsen <mailto:per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com>  
To: 'Claudio Petronio' <mailto:cpetronio@argentinaanalytica.com>  ;
Freebsd-Questions (E-post) <mailto:freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>  
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 9:40 PM
Subject: RE: Static Nat


This is the config I used to route all request to my webserver from the
internet to my internal
web server.
 
rdr <ext. netcard> <ext.ip>/32 port 80 -> 10.1.1.2 port 80
 
Observ I use ipnat, and I have omitted the rules for NAT'ing my internal
net.
 
PeTe

-----Original Message-----
From: Claudio Petronio [mailto:cpetronio@argentinaanalytica.com]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:35 PM
To: questions@FreeBSD.org <mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org> 
Subject: Static Nat


How may I setup Static Nat on a FreeBsd firewall?, i need to make a static
nat for my webserver which uses a private ip (192.168.1.1) to make it
visible as a public ip webserver. Should I use proxy ARP?
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Claudio Petronio.


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=046480314-22012001>Lets 
do a hypothetical setup...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=046480314-22012001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=046480314-22012001>rdr 
ed0 0.0.0.0/0 port 80 -&gt; 10.1.1.2 port 80</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=046480314-22012001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=046480314-22012001>when i 
put 0.0.0.0/0 it tells ipnat to&nbsp;lookup the dhcp adresse automatically in 
everytime</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=046480314-22012001>it 
starts. (Actually, this you need to try, since I've&nbsp;dont use dhcp on 
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=046480314-22012001>my internet line.)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=046480314-22012001></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2><SPAN class=046480314-22012001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=046480314-22012001>How is 
have you setup you existing ipnat.conf file?&nbsp;Here you should see how 
ipnat</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=046480314-22012001>implements dhcp&nbsp;in 
its&nbsp;table.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=046480314-22012001></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2><SPAN class=046480314-22012001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=046480314-22012001>Also, 
you need to punch a hole through port 80 your firewall to&nbsp;let internet 
axess your</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=046480314-22012001>webserver inside you LAN.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=046480314-22012001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=046480314-22012001>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=046480314-22012001>Also 
for reference:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=046480314-22012001><A 
href="http://www.freebsddiary.org/">www.freebsddiary.org</A> can answer alot of 
your questions.&nbsp; Look under ipnat,ppp or 
ipfw.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=046480314-22012001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=046480314-22012001>PeTe</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=046480314-22012001>(Remember to send a copy to freebsd questions so other 
users may have a chance to</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=046480314-22012001>flame 
me when/if </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=046480314-22012001>I make any obvious mistakes.)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Kathy Quinlan 
  [mailto:katinka@magestower.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 22, 2001 2:58 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> Per Tore Larsen<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Static 
  Nat<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ok I take it that &lt;ext.netcard&gt; ed0 
  ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>what would I put for the &lt;ext.ip&gt; as mine 
  is dynamic ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kat.</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
  style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A title=per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com 
    href="mailto:per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com">Per Tore Larsen</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    title=cpetronio@argentinaanalytica.com 
    href="mailto:cpetronio@argentinaanalytica.com">'Claudio Petronio'</A> ; <A 
    title=freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG 
    href="mailto:freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG">Freebsd-Questions (E-post)</A> 
    </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 22, 2001 9:40 
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Static Nat</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial 
    color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>This is the config I used to route all request&nbsp;to my webserver 
    from the internet to my internal</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>web server.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>rdr &lt;ext. netcard&gt; &lt;ext.ip&gt;/32 port 80 -&gt; 10.1.1.2 
    port 80</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Observ I use ipnat, and I have omitted the rules for NAT'ing my 
    internal net.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=109294113-22012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>PeTe</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
    style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Claudio Petronio 
      [mailto:cpetronio@argentinaanalytica.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 
      22, 2001 2:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A 
      href="mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org">questions@FreeBSD.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> 
      Static Nat<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How may&nbsp;I setup Static Nat on a FreeBsd 
      firewall?, i need to make a static nat&nbsp;for my webserver which uses a 
      private ip (192.168.1.1) to make it visible as a public ip webserver. 
      Should I use proxy ARP?</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks in advance,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Claudio 
  Petronio.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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i am one FreeBSD user and want to ask u one question about ppp.I am =
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Hi, I'm having problems getting my VPNgateway to work with PGPnet.
The phase1 seems to get established but then the VPNgw starts ignoring 
the PGPnet client...

The VPNgateway (named vpngw) is a FreeBSD 4.2 box with the racoon port 
installed.
And the pgpnet client (named Markus) is a NT 4 worksstation running PGP 
6.5.8. PGPnet is using default settings.

You can find my racoon.conf, racoon.log and a tcpdump of a "connect" at 
http://213.64.6.188/ipsec/     (it's not vpnfw)


This is a cut from racoon.log:
-----------------
2001-01-22 13:46:21: isakmp.c:2317:log_ph1established(): ISAKMP-SA 
established vpngw_IP[500]-markus_IP[500] 
spi:eaa3d6abc672844b:227bdb137fae8be8
2001-01-22 13:46:21: isakmp.c:639:ph1_main(): ===
2001-01-22 13:46:21: isakmp.c:207:isakmp_handler(): ===
 eaa3d6ab c672844b 227bdb13 7fae8be8 0b100500 00000000 00000028 0000000c
 00000001 0100001e
2001-01-22 13:46:21: isakmp.c:2152:isakmp_printpacket(): begin.
2001-01-22 13:46:21: isakmp_inf.c:112:isakmp_info_recv(): receive 
Information.
2001-01-22 13:46:21: isakmp_inf.c:143:isakmp_info_recv(): markus_IP 
ignore, the packet must be encrypted.
-------------------



This is the tcpdump:
--------------------
vpngw# tcpdump host vpngw
tcpdump: listening on dc0
13:46:19.548833 markus.isakmp > vpngw.isakmp: isakmp: phase 1 I ident: 
[|sa]
13:46:19.617855 vpngw.isakmp > markus.isakmp: isakmp: phase 1 R ident: 
[|sa]
13:46:19.647084 markus.isakmp > vpngw.isakmp: isakmp: phase 1 I ident: 
[|ke]
13:46:20.304175 vpngw.isakmp > markus.isakmp: isakmp: phase 1 R ident: 
[|ke]
13:46:20.348731 markus.isakmp > vpngw.isakmp: isakmp: phase 1 I 
ident[E]: [|id]
13:46:21.202959 vpngw.isakmp > markus.isakmp: isakmp: phase 1 R 
ident[E]: [|id]
13:46:21.204935 markus.isakmp > vpngw.isakmp: isakmp: phase 1 I inf:
(n: doi=ipsec proto=isakmp type=UNEQUAL-PAYLOAD-LENGTHS)
13:46:21.251088 vpngw.isakmp > markus.isakmp: isakmp: phase 2/others R 
inf[E]: [|hash]
13:46:36.456984 vpngw.isakmp > markus.isakmp: isakmp: phase 2/others R 
inf[E]: [|hash]
^C
152 packets received by filter
0 packets dropped by kernel
vpngw# 
-------------------------


The PGPnet log:
-------------------------
13:46:21 PM IKEvpngw_IP  Unequal Payload Lengths notification sent
13:46:21 PM Servicevpngw_IP Unable to establish Security Association 
with peer
13:46:21 PM IKEvpngw_IP  Invalid Exchange notification sent
-------------------------

Any idea what could be causing this? 
I've tried changing the "dh_group" but only "modp1536" or "5" gets an 
accepted proposal.
Could anyone send a working(with pgpnet) copy of their racoon.conf?

Thanks
/Markus


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 22  6:37:58 2001
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I just read your info about how to configure ADSL with FreeBSD... And thanks
for the info...

But I wonder something : why shouldn't we assigned an ip address for the
ethernet card connected to the DSL modem ? With windows and PPTP I have to
assign IP address 10.0.0.10.

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 22  6:44:52 2001
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Is it possible ? And if so is it dangerous ?
With linux I have read to NEVER read/write to/from an NTFS5 drive, it can
corrupt the whole drive.

And with FreeBSD ?

Thanks...

PS : if I must not do this, how do I put FreeBSD to not see windows 2000
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Hey all,

I'm currently evaluating the feasibility of using a pure FreeBSD based
solution versus ETInc's bandwidth manager, which I am considering
purchasing.  Can someone tell me if the following are possible:

1. Is there a way to make ipfw deny traffic by MAC address? (We have
colocation customers, and are trying to prevent "stolen" IP addresses.)

2. Is there any way to set up a dual-NIC freeBSD box as a COMPLETELY
TRANSPARENT bridge (meaning our customers will not have to change their
gateway address, and meaning that the machine doing the bandwidth
management/limiting/throttling will not show up on traceroutes?  (I prefer
this because it makes migration easier, and it also makes things more
secure (as in, nobody will attack a router that doesn't show up on
traceroutes).

3. Is there any way to graph the information shown by ipfw?  Like MRTG?

I think that's all.

Thanks in advance,

Dan Mahoney

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 09:54:54AM +0100, Julien Pham wrote:
> I am currently a windows user. I will surely keep windows for games, as
> there are only a few games on the unix community. But I want to get rid of
> windows for work, and use a unix kind of OS instead. So I wonder whether to
> try FreeBSD or Linux.

Either will do. However, if you are going to set up a heavily used
server for your work then I would recommend FreeBSD. If you just want a
desktop workstation, then I would probably suggest Linux. Really though,
either will do.
 
> First, what are the differences between the two OS ? Someone told me FreeBSD
> is real Unix, and Linux has nothing to do with Unix. But what does this
> means ? About compatibility for example ? I have thought that unix software
> can run under linux.

The differences are trivial from a user's perspective. Most commands
work in a similar manner, indeed many are the same commands. Most Linux
software will run on FreeBSD, and both can be networked together quite
well. Most UNIX software probably will run under Linux if source is
available. You might need to compile it.
 
> Can I find all kind of apps I can find on linux, on FreeBSD ? Such as office
> tools (such as staroffice), network and internet tools, and games ?

Yes.
 
> Last question : what is the best way to install FreeBSD ? FTP or a CD ? I
> have a DSL connection and so I have a free connection to internet. But to be
> able to access FTP site I must first configure my internet access. I had
> this pb when I tried debian linux : I have installed the base OS with disks
> but then I was unable to configure my internet connection : I have not the
> tools needed. And what about FreeBSD ? I am in France and as DSL connection
> I have ADSL with PPPoE or PPTP.

I don't know about that one. I'm sure someone else on the list can help
though.

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 09:43:20AM +0000, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> FreeBSD users eat raw steak for breakfast, they are always drunk and
> in trouble with the law, they curse a lot, and hate newbies... roflmao.
> 
> Cliff

That should endear all newbies to FreeBSD :-)
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I was wondering if someone knew where i could find some large images of the
BSD daemon, I am looking to use it for wallpapers etc. and I only seem to be
finding small pictures.

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Thanks to those who helped with my clock situation. I am using ntpdate as a cron
to update the time every hour. Now it seems that my clock is off by at least -.014
seconds every hour. Is this normal? Why is off so much in one hour?

Here is the average output form cron:
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22 Jan 07:00:00 ntpdate[1891]: adjust time server 17.254.0.27 offset -0.148541 sec

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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ken
> >Bolingbroke
> >
> >I've been running a mail/web/dns server as well as a NAT gateway on a
> >386dx40 with 8meg RAM for several years.  One caveat is that
> >you need at
> >least 12 meg RAM to run sysinstall on more recent versions of
> >FreeBSD, but
> >I could do a buildworld on a faster machine, then installworld
> >on the '386
> >just fine.  It's recently been retired from those duties and
> >now serves as
> >just a fax server, but it's always done the job.  DNS, mail
> >for a handful
> >of users, and a low traffic web site isn't all that demanding.
> > After all,
> >this machine was state-of-the art 10 years ago. :-)
> >
> >Ken
> >
> 
> Even better, these older 386's and 486/33's don't need a CPU fan,
> so one less thing to get cockeyed.  And I'd trust a system that
> has lasted 10 years and was still going strong more than a
> system with only 6 months on it.

The only major problem we've run into is that those 10 year old
HDs tend to die.  Still, all you need to do is upgrade a drive
in one of your current machines and donate the old small one to
the firewall machine.  This has kept our 486sx33 with 8MB of ram
alive for much longer than the manufacturer intended. 

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I am using FreeBSD 4.2-Release in Gnome window on a Dell laptop.  
Suddenly, the disk drive begins to run and for quite a while even though I
have not issued any I/O. Using ps command, I see a command "find /usr
-xdev -" is running. What is this command for? Who is running it? Is there
a way to find out these info?  Thanks.

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dimitri wrote:
> 
> FreeBSD is a great operating system, a capable friend when you need to do
> serious stuff like setting up a lan or running a server..
> 
> But sometimes i really miss all these silly, little things like watching a
> movie trailer from the internet...

Well, it's not like there is any lack of trying to get Sorenson/Apple to
release the codec (even in binary form) to FreeBSD/Linux, but they
simply
do not want to give up that codec.  Even M$ Media Player can't handle
those Sorenson Quicktimes (which is VERY annoying, because the windows
Quicktime client tends to crash my machine, and if M$ Media Player
supported
it, avifile would support it.)

It's kindof odd, it used to be that I loved seeing .mov extensions on
files,
because the Quicktime format was open and there were all kinds of great
players for them, even under FreeBSD.  .avis were a nightmare of
different
unsupported Indeo codecs that sometimes didn't even work with the
correct
codec installed.  Then, gradually, this all reversed and nowadays the
.mpgs
and .avis work and the .movs don't.   What's more, with the advent of 
Divx ;-) those .avi files frequntly look better than the .movs at a 
significantly lower bitrate.

Dang, more ranting, I've gotta stop this...

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Let me point out a few things that I've found lacking in Greg's book,

One is the reference to creating a link to the /var directory and moving it to /user/var.
I did that procedure *exactly*, as in to the letter.  What I got was either the directory not being about to
 mount upon boot up.  Having experienced that I decided I move /usr/var back to /var hoping it would go 
back to the way it was supposed to.  When it mounted the contents of the directory had disappeared I
 unmounted it forcefully and they had reappeared.  Oh well so now I dont mount it on boot up.  I fiddled
 with /etc/fstab with no success.  

One other thing is setting up PPP, I've went over the suggestions in that chapter on setting it up and have
 not succeded in setting up my internet connection.  I've tried to use kppp from my xwin only to find that
 my modem hangs when it attempts to initialize.  I dont need to be told that it is a modem issue in this
 case, it is slowly dawning on me.  Using ppp at the prompt, it dials out easy enough but doesnt log in. 
This particular issue has already been addressed by other people on this list.   

That and when I execute the CDplayer in xwin it complains about me not having permission.....I was in
 root.  

Ok, I will concede that I was being harsh about the lack of documentation.  There is documentation but
 so far from what I have seen there are *minor* discrepencies.  Not something I would base my judgment
 on if someone was wanting to convert to *nix.  

Regarding Linux, I own the Running Linux (cowboy on the horse book by ORielly), it pretty helpful and I'm sure there are other books I can look at to get the answer.  But I dont want to spend 40-50 bucks on book after book to get an answer.    

I guess to rephrase my earlier 'condemming' of documentation, what bothers me is having to have to run from one source to another to find the answer.  The man pages are useful but to the laymen they are in geek speak.  

Your's is only the second email I've read regarding this and hope that there are people who are little bit
more objective than you appear to be.

Don't forget that I also mentioned, what I feel is a legitamite gripe against RedHat or Linux, at one point when I was composing an email on my Linux WS my browser disappered.  At the time I was composing a pretty big email.  

Basically what I'm trying to say is that there are places where *nix isnt the end all be all like some people would like me to belive.  Just like MS wants me to belive. 
But dont mistake my complaints as crucifixion, when I have to choose between OS' I'm always leaning towards the *nix side.  

Steve M


> 
> 
> >
> >The *nix OS' lack sufficient documentation for the average 
> >user.  I'm a little above the average user so I've
> 
> What an insult!  What about my book that was just
> released?  And what about Greg's book "The Complete FreeBSD"
> that has been out longer than that?  What is lacking in those
> efforts?  And, the bookstores are stuffed with Linux books!!
> 
> Your not going to get a manual, bound and all
> that, for the $30 distribution cost of the CDs!  For that matter
> you don't get a manual with Microsoft's products either unless
> you spend $150 for the Resourse Kit
> 
> >
> >I'm not a geek nor do I profess to be one, I just dont have 
> >the time to putz around with a minor thing as
> > compared to MS's way of doing something.  
> >
> 
> If you took someone who has never seen, never touched a computer
> before and sat them in front of a FreeBSD system, I wager it would
> take just as long to train them to use it as to train them to
> use Windows.  MS's way only seems easier because you learned it
> first.
> 
> >But I dislike MS for their business practices if anything, 
> >they totally insist on doing things in such a way
> > that is to pretend there is no other way besides their way.  
> >
> 
> Right - because they market to one-dimensional users that are
> scared if they are given 2 different ways to solve a problem,
> and asked to choose the best one.
> 
> >Thanks for letting me vent and I hope I've got this stupid 
> >email formatted in a readable form.
> >
> >FWIW,
> >Steve M
> >
> 
> You do.  Go ahead and vent.  But, stop by the bookstore
> before condemming the lack of docs.
> 
> Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
> Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
> Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com




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Can someone please help me get ICQ working through IPFW. AOL Instant 
Messenger had no problem working, but for some reason, ICQ wont. My firewall 
policy is deny ip from any to any and I have put the following rules in place:

ICQ documentation said to allow a udp packet to 4000 on the other end so i 
opened that up:

	${fwcmd} add 0302 pass udp from any 4000 to any
	${fwcmd} add 0303 pass udp from any to any 4000

It also said it had to have atleast 9 ports to work. They were dynamically 
allocated. I opened 10 ports for it:

	${fwcmd} add 0304 pass tcp from any to any 1024-1034
	${fwcmd} add 0305 pass tcp from any 1024-1034 to any

However, for some reason, it just wont work. Any help would be appreciated.

-- jwp
                                                        
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Hello.

I am new to the list so please let me quickly introduce myself. My name
is Christophe Jelger, an MPHil student at the University of Wales
Swansea. My research topic in on IP over WDM.

I have installed FreeBSD as well as Windows NT and I share a DOS
partition between both operating systems. The problem is I can only
access the DOS partition as a read-only file system from FreeBSD. I
checked the /etc/fstab file and the partition is marked as "ro"
read-only. Shall I edit this file directly to make it "rw" ? or is there
a command to be used for this purpose ?

Thanks.

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Hi.

First a very stupid question : is there a way to have the shell prompt
in BOLD in an xterm window ?

And secondly, what simple text editor (like the notepad for Windows)
would you advise me to use with the windowmaker desktop ? I just want to
use it to edit C source files.

Thanks

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 03:47:31PM +0000, Christophe Jelger wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I am new to the list so please let me quickly introduce myself. My name
> is Christophe Jelger, an MPHil student at the University of Wales
> Swansea. My research topic in on IP over WDM.
> 
> I have installed FreeBSD as well as Windows NT and I share a DOS
> partition between both operating systems. The problem is I can only
> access the DOS partition as a read-only file system from FreeBSD. I
> checked the /etc/fstab file and the partition is marked as "ro"
> read-only. Shall I edit this file directly to make it "rw" ? or is there
> a command to be used for this purpose ?

If it's msdos then just change the ro to rw and it'll work fine, ntfs
doesn't seem to be trusted enough to be safe for writing :)

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Hello,

i'm trying to use the program disc-cover with FreeBSD 4.2-STALE.
(Homepage: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~jvhemert/disc-cover/)
All the necessary perl modules and programs are installed.

But i get the following error-message:

------->
jever# pwd
/tmp/disc-cover-1.1.1
jever# ./disc-cover -V -D /dev/acd0a
Trying CDDB server cddbp://:0/
Connection error: Undefined error: 0
Could not establish connection with any CDDB servers!
Error: Could not fetch cdrom information.

Solution 1: Check if the connection to the internet works.

Solution 2: If the file is not in the cddb database you can make a new file
as follows: 'disc-cover -t cddb -o newfile.cddb'. Edit this file and insert
the titles and artist, then do: 'disc-cover -f newfile.cddb'.
<-------

I've no experience with perl, so i don't know how and where
i've to change the CDDB server (look at the first line of the 
error message). In disc-cover (also a perl script) there is 
no knob or something similar.

Are there FreeBSD users who uses disc-cover? Can somebody give
me a hint?

TIA,
Uwe

PS: The News section at the above homepage says:
" [...] This module replaces the FreeDB library! My main reason to 
switch libraries is that Audio-CD uses the libaudiocd library that is
supposed to work on most Unix platforms and should enable FreeBSD 
users to start using Disc-Cover. [...]"


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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Christophe Jelger wrote:

> First a very stupid question : is there a way to have the shell prompt
> in BOLD in an xterm window ?

Here is my prompt in tcsh (.tcshrc)

set prompt="%B%n@%m (%l) %h %/ %#%b "
set prompt2="%B%n@%m %h %/ ++%b "

And in bash (.bashrc)

BLUE="\[\033[1;34m\]"
NO_COLOR="\[\033[0m\]"

PS1="${BLUE}\u@\h ('tty') \w \# ->${NO_COLOR} "
PS2="${BLUE}\u@\h \w \! ++${NO_COLOR} "

> And secondly, what simple text editor (like the notepad for Windows)
> would you advise me to use with the windowmaker desktop ? I just want to
> use it to edit C source files.
> 

vim works well.


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We are running Sendmail 8.11.1 with FreeBSD 4.2 on 3 MTA's on our system.

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Some hosts outside of our system (and some of our virtual host clients) are
rejecting these bounces claiming an invalid sender:
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<lmast@forestriverinc.com>
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(Or some similar rejection message depending on the MTA of the recipient.)

I haven't been able to figure out so far why this is happening and have
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 03:51:40PM +0000, Christophe Jelger wrote:
> First a very stupid question : is there a way to have the shell prompt
> in BOLD in an xterm window ?

if [ "$TERM" = "xterm" ]; then
	export PS1="^[[[5m$PS1^[[0m"
fi

These ^[ is a ^V and an escape key.

Edwin

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Hello,

Had the power go out for me at the home and ofcourse the network went down and
my
bsd box had a tough time recovering.  Think it is about time fora UPS.  What
would
y'all recommend for a UPS and how does it work with the upsd port if at all?

Thanks

Matt - Houston





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Christophe Jelger wrote:

> And secondly, what simple text editor (like the notepad for Windows)
> would you advise me to use with the windowmaker desktop ? I just want to
> use it to edit C source files.

I assume by simple you want something thats gui native and would 
reasonably intuitive to a windows user. I like Nedit for that sort of 
thing (/usr/ports/nedit) as it has syntax hilighting for most languages 
as well, and can do just about as complicated a task as you would like.

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In the last episode (Jan 22), Matt Bettinger said:
> Had the power go out for me at the home and of course the network
> went down and my bsd box had a tough time recovering.  Think it is
> about time for a UPS.  What would y'all recommend for a UPS and how
> does it work with the upsd port if at all?

Whichever device you get, I suggest using Network UPS Tools
(ports/sysutils/nut), which supports a whole mess of UPSes:
http://www.exploits.org/nut/library/compat.html

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On 22-Jan-01 Matt Bettinger wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Had the power go out for me at the home and ofcourse the network went down and
> my
> bsd box had a tough time recovering.  Think it is about time fora UPS.  What
> would
> y'all recommend for a UPS and how does it work with the upsd port if at all?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Matt - Houston


APC Smart-UPS 700 and upsmond from the ports. You can get this report:


vanheden> ps ax|grep ups
  304  ??  Is     0:04.67 /usr/local/sbin/upsmond -p /dev/cuaa1 -r 20
45358  p0  S+     0:00.01 grep ups
vanheden> upsstat 

        UPSMON Status Reporting Facility
        ---  upsmond version 2.1.3  ---

             APC UPS 700 Status Info
--------------------------------------------------------
                     Model: SMART-UPS 700
                 CopyRight: (C) APCC
          Manufacture date: 12/18/99
                  Serial #: NS9951331687
          Firmware version: 50.11.I
                  Local ID: UPS_IDEN
 Last battery replace date: 12/18/99
      Nominal line voltage: 230 V
   Nominal battery voltage: 24 V
                 Available: YES
                   Standby: NO
                Line Power: OK
                   Battery: OK
              Line Voltage: 227.50
                      Load:  20.20 %
           Battery Voltage:  27.60
             Battery Level: 100.00 %
--------------------------------------------------------
vanheden> 


And it tells vanheden to shutdown if the power is down for more than X minutes.
(-r 20 = 20 mins in the command above).

And it logs too:

vanheden> tail /var/log/upsmon.log 
Sep 19 00:29:31 <daemon.alert> vanheden UPS: Input line power back
Oct 14 08:31:11 <daemon.crit> vanheden UPS: Input line power failure
Oct 14 08:31:13 <daemon.alert> vanheden UPS: Input line power back
Oct 25 10:00:21 <daemon.info> vanheden UPS: upsmond daemon started - version
2.1.3
Oct 30 09:24:24 <daemon.info> vanheden UPS: upsmond daemon started - version
2.1.3
Jan  2 13:56:47 <daemon.crit> vanheden UPS: Input line power failure
Jan  2 13:56:47 <daemon.crit> vanheden UPS: Input line power failure
Jan  2 13:56:48 <daemon.alert> vanheden UPS: Input line power back
Jan  2 16:30:28 <daemon.crit> vanheden UPS: Input line power failure
Jan  2 16:30:29 <daemon.alert> vanheden UPS: Input line power back


Very satisfied customer.
/Micke
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>>>>> "Roger" == Roger Merritt <mcrogerm@stjohn.ac.th> writes:

    Roger> I've tried the commands mount /cdrom mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c
    Roger> /cdrom mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom

    Roger> All with the same result: device busy.

fstat | grep acd0 will give you the process that holds the cdrom, stop it
and then mount the cdrom

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Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> types:
> Linux is strictly speaking just the O/S part and uses mostly GNU system
> software .. GNU get pissed about people talking about Linux rather than
> GNU/Linux (probably because Hurd, the O/S GNU is writing has been years
> in arriving). What is irritating or wonderful (depending on your
> point of view) is that Linux comes in a Heinz like variety of distributions...
> dozens of them. So if you decide to try Linux first you will need to decide
> which one (all I will say on this is do NOT try Redhat, the biggest selling
> but worst Linux distribution on the planet).

RedHat suffers a lot from the "Microsoft tint" that was mentioned
elsewhere. The installation procedure makes lots of assumptions about
the world that are probably true for the majority of the users, but a
majort PITA for everyone else. Unless you use custom install, it
installs its own boot system (just like MS), installs a GUI whether
you want one or not (just like MS), and makes running other OS's a
pain (just like MS). It also added aliases for all the shells that I
found annoying, yet couldn't turn off without editing the system
files; in other words, they assumed everyone would want things they
way they set them up and not want to change them - which is a very MS
thing.

Of the Linux distributions I've installed (not many), TurboLinux was
the one that made the fewest annoying assumptions.

> Compatibility. Most Linux software runs fine under FreeBSD, some of it
> runs reputedly better !
> > Can I find all kind of apps I can find on linux, on FreeBSD ? Such as office
> > tools (such as staroffice), network and internet tools, and games ?
> I don;t know if Staroffice is available under FreeBSD yet. But I see no reason
> why it shouldn't run.

The Linux version of StarOffice (running in compatability mode) is in
the ports. There's a hiccup in the installation procedure that bites
some people, but not others. Once you get over that, it runs fine -
well, it runs as intended; I couldn't stand their GUI. Open Office
(the name for the open sourced version of Star Office) is in the port
tree but not yet finished. ApplixWare Office is available native, but
costs money.

I did a review of the word processing packages available late last
year; you can read it at <URL:
http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/reviews/FreeBSD-WP.html >.

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   Hi... This happens when you want to mount a CD (copys or makes with
writers) and they isn't close properly.... You should try whit a original
CD.. and tell us whats happen... 


On 22 Jan 2001, Eric Masson wrote:

> Date: 22 Jan 2001 14:53:42 +0100
> From: Eric Masson <e-masson@kisoft-services.com>
> To: Roger Merritt <mcrogerm@stjohn.ac.th>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: cd9660: device busy
> 
> >>>>> "Roger" == Roger Merritt <mcrogerm@stjohn.ac.th> writes:
> 
>     Roger> I've tried the commands mount /cdrom mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c
>     Roger> /cdrom mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
> 
>     Roger> All with the same result: device busy.
> 
> fstat | grep acd0 will give you the process that holds the cdrom, stop it
> and then mount the cdrom
> 
> Eric Masson
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OK I have pasted the entirety of the file /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf:

subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
    option routers 192.168.0.1;
    option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;
    range 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.6;
}


On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:22:25AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
> Will Saxon wrote:
> 
> > dhcpd: if IN A  doesn't exist add 21600 IN A  192.168.0.2: resolver failed.
> > 
> > Occasionally I get another message complaining of an invalid domain.
> 
> Looks like a problem in the dhcpd configuration. Send the dhcpd.conf
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To: "Julien Pham" <jpham@mis.mc>
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Julien Pham <jpham@mis.mc> types:
> So on ly computer I have windows installed on my 4Gb drive, and I want to
> install FreeBSD on my empty 8Gb drive. Of course after FreeBSD installation
> I want to be able to boot either FreeBSD or windows.
> 
> Do I have something to know on installation on how to do this ?

Yes. You need to know that you should install BootEasy (the FreeBSD
boot manager) on the disk with Windows install on it, and either
BootEasy or a standard boot manager on the second disk. This way you
get a keyboard menu for DOS or disk2, and going to disk2 either boots
FreeBSD or gets a similar menu for FreeBSD or disk1.

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> What is the recommended combination of Gnome and a Window Manager to
> get reliable results on FreeBSD 4.1?
>=20
> I have tried IceWM, which I like very much (clean, consistent and
> esthetically
> very pleasing).  Gnome starts the first time with two panels showing, =
one
> at the top with a menu for Favorites and Settings, and a small pager =
that
> only shows one page.  There is another panel at the bottom that will =
slide
>=20
> away like the KDE panel.  This panel shows minimized apps, much like
> the Task Bar in WinNT.
>=20
> The Gnome Control app shows the box for customizing the Window
> Manager settings as grayed out.  I also get a dialog box that says
> I am not using a Gnome-compliant Window Manager, but I thought
> that both IceWM and Enlightenment were compliant.
>=20
> When I bring it up a second time, the minimized apps on the "task =
bar"
> have
> disappeared.  I can get them back by blowing away .gnome, but this is
> hardly convenient.
>=20
> I tried Enlightenment, but, with the one or two themes I tried, I =
hated
> it.
> It is much too over-decorated for my taste, and I got similar
> inconsistencies
> on subsequent invocations.
>=20
> Any advice, or pointers on where to look, please/
>=20
> Mike Jeays
> Assistant Director / Directeur adjoint
> System Development Division / Division du d=E9veloppement de =
syst=E8mes
> Voice/voix 951-9929
> Fax 951-0607
> Email/Courriel : Mike.Jeays@statcan.ca
>=20


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CMI3380 PnP i can do it no work
i use device pcm and device sbc then make nodes,
compile my kernel and reboot.
then i get the message pcm0:<CMI8330> .......
and 
unknown0<CMI8330>...............
unknown1<CMI8330>..............
unknown2<CMI8330>............
when i do cat /dev/sndstat it's give me :
Device not configured
i try whit csa and gusc but nothing don't work 
PLEASE HELP 
hatred@europe.com



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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
> Speaking as the admin of an ISP that deploys DSL I can't
> disagree more!  I WANT stone-dumb support techs at the
> Telco, because I want to discourage people from calling
> the Telco if there's a problem!
>
> I DO NOT WANT end users like this to be calling the
> Telco DSL tech support!!  I want them to be calling MY tech
> support, BEFORE they call the phone company, so that we
> can key the order for their circuit into the phone company's
> system so that it's delivered properly, with all the
> hardware that they need.  DON'T call the phone company,
> they don't know anything about DSL or how to order
> it, all they know is how to put a DSL CPE into a shipping
> box and mail it somewhere, then how to go to the switchroom
> and crossconnect your phone line to a DSLAM port.  Beyond
> that 95% of the Telco techs employed by the phone company
> couldn't tell a DSL circuit from a hole in the ground,
> and the 5% that know what they are doing are kept busy
> running around and fixing all the mistakes that the other
> 95% make.

I can understand exactly where you're coming from. I've got lots of
clients who will try to fix things they have no understanding of and
they by the time they call me the problem is 5x worse.
Hmmm ... but if the telco people weren't "stone-dumb" they would know
when they were in over their head and transfer the call to you.
I have to disagree with you 100% on this point. I've been on the phone
for an entire 8 hour day with Verizon because they're level 1 tech
support people could not recognize that it was time to pass the problem
on to level 2. Even after we requested to talk to level 2, they insisted
that the problem was our fault. The result when we finally got to level
2: Verizon fixed their mistake. This has actually happened on 2 seperate
occasions now.
If the tech had been smart enough to know when it was over his/her head,
he would have sent us to level 2 tech support sooner, and saved us a
bunch of time, him a bunch of time and the level 2 tech (who had to undo
the level 1 tech's mistakes) a lot of time.
So, personally, I don't think that "stone-dumb" is ever an asset in any
way. I can understand that it's difficult to get another company to do
their job correctly (trust me ... I understand!) but you simply have to
push and keep pushing. Every time they screw something up worse that
ends up taking your time, send them a bill. Push hard that they should
pay for the time they caused. You may never get your $$$, but perhaps
they'll eventually learn to turn things over at the right time. Welcome
to hell.

> Telco DSL tech support is to be used for ONE thing only -
> you call them if the DSL modem cannot train to the DSLAM,
> nothing else.  PLEASE DO NOT ask them ANYTHING else - because
> I guarentee that what's going to happen is that your
> slightly broken system is going to end up being completely hosed.
> Then, after completely screwing you the Telco is going
> to start blaming the ISP saying it's their fault.
> Then when you call the ISP in desperation, you have
> made my job 1000% times harder because the system by
> then is so completely hosed that my support techs can't
> make head or tail out of it, and I get sucked into fixing
> it, or I have to have you yard damn the thing into our
> office and burn up an hour of support time unscrewing it.

So why not make it policy within Telco support that anything outside
what they can legitamately fix is to be referred to you?

> We do FreeBSD, Linux, MacOS, OS/2, Winders, NT, 2K support
> all for DSL.

Cheers! Honestly, I think that is fantastic! Are you available in
Columbus, OH? I would give up my Time Warner cable (which is good,
actually) in a second for someone who really understood networks.

> Our job is getting the Internet to your system.
> The Telco's job is delivering some circuit that they don't
> know what the hell is running on it and they could care less.

Agreed, unfortunately, the advertising that is being pushed on people in
large quantities doesn't explain that, and the bullshit that people get
from companies like Micros~1 is that "they shouldn't have to understand
the system"

> Remember they don't get paid for the Internet service ON the
> DSL circuit, the get paid for the circuit itself.  Call the people
> that do give a rat's ass about the Internet service on the DSL
> circuit for help - the ISP.

Keep in mind that quite often the ISP and the Telco are the same thing.
Which makes it even worse, because you call telco support, get the wrong
department and that department tries to fix it. Often the communication
barriers between departments is just as bad (or worse) than it is
between companies.

Just wanted to chime in. Hope this doesn't start a flame war.

-Bill


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Hmmm ... nothing wrong there that I can see.
Can you send some details of your DNS config?

-Bill

Will Saxon wrote:
> 
> OK I have pasted the entirety of the file /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf:
> 
> subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
>     option routers 192.168.0.1;
>     option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;
>     range 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.6;
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As someone pointed out already, Staroffice is in the ports tree.
I just installed it just the other day so I can vouch for the fact that
it works. The only thing I want to point out is that I'm running a
4.2-STABLE system and I cvsupped to the most recent ports tree
immediately before installing.

-Bill

Kurtis Peterson wrote:

>   A few weeks ago I decided that I hated having to reboot to windows to run
> StarOffice.  So I got off my lazy ass and decided to install it on FreeBSD
> release 4.1.1  I didn't find it in the ports collection or under
> /stand/sysinstall so I went onto the site and downloaded the port from
> freebsd.org.  But the port didn't work, it spewed forth a half dozen errors
> and died.  I have fixed them (most were little shit like the lack of an md5
> file) and have re-archived the port.  If you would like a copy of my working
> port just e-mail me and I'll send it.  You can look through it yourselves if
> you like.  Please keep up the great work as FreeBSD is the greatest OS on
> the planet!!  Thanks again.


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Steve M <slavik944@metconnect.com> types:

I've fixed the formatting on your mail. Could you please hit newline
every 70 characters or so, or configure your mailer to wrap your
paragraphs before it sends the email? It makes it a lot easier to read
and reply to.

> I guess to rephrase my earlier 'condemming' of documentation, what
> bothers me is having to have to run from one source to another to
> find the answer.  The man pages are useful but to the laymen they
> are in geek speak.
>
> Your's is only the second email I've read regarding this and hope
> that there are people who are little bit more objective than you
> appear to be.

Since you asked for another opinion, you get mine. I agree, having to
go from one source to another to find information is a major
pain. Even worse, you don't always find the information you're looking
for.

On the other hand, my experience with Windows is that you also have to
go from one source to another to find information - and you fail to
find the information you're looking for more often than not. I admit
that more often than not I'm looking for information that most users
don't care about - but at least on Unix-like systems, I can usually
find it. On the open source ones, I can always find it if I'm willing
to dig deep enough.

I have used systems that had nearly complete documentation in one
place - usually referred to as "the <color> wall", for its 10s of
shelf feet of manuals all with the same color binding. VMS manuals
tended to be useful. MVS tended to do things like "Error XXX#### - see
error YYY####", "Error YYY### - see error ZZZ####", and finally "Error
ZZZ#### - probable user error, correct and resubmit." Oddly enough,
source was available for both of those, if only on microfiche.

The point being that computer systems documentation all pretty much
sucks.

	<mike
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* Micke Josefsson <mj@isy.liu.se> [20010122 19:42]: writing on the subject 'RE: UPS''
Micke> 
Micke> On 22-Jan-01 Matt Bettinger wrote:
Micke> > Hello,
Micke> > 
Micke> > Had the power go out for me at the home and ofcourse the network went down and
Micke> > my
Micke> > bsd box had a tough time recovering.  Think it is about time fora UPS.  What
Micke> > would
Micke> > y'all recommend for a UPS and how does it work with the upsd port if at all?
Micke> > 
Micke> > Thanks
Micke> > 
Micke> > Matt - Houston
Micke> 
Micke> 
Micke> APC Smart-UPS 700 and upsmond from the ports. You can get this report:
Micke> 
Micke> 
Micke> vanheden> ps ax|grep ups
Micke>   304  ??  Is     0:04.67 /usr/local/sbin/upsmond -p /dev/cuaa1 -r 20
Micke> 45358  p0  S+     0:00.01 grep ups
Micke> vanheden> upsstat 
Micke> 
Micke>         UPSMON Status Reporting Facility
Micke>         ---  upsmond version 2.1.3  ---
Micke> 
Micke>              APC UPS 700 Status Info
Micke> --------------------------------------------------------
Micke>                      Model: SMART-UPS 700
Micke>                  CopyRight: (C) APCC
Micke>           Manufacture date: 12/18/99
Micke>                   Serial #: NS9951331687
Micke>           Firmware version: 50.11.I
Micke>                   Local ID: UPS_IDEN
Micke>  Last battery replace date: 12/18/99
Micke>       Nominal line voltage: 230 V
Micke>    Nominal battery voltage: 24 V
Micke>                  Available: YES
Micke>                    Standby: NO
Micke>                 Line Power: OK
Micke>                    Battery: OK
Micke>               Line Voltage: 227.50
Micke>                       Load:  20.20 %
Micke>            Battery Voltage:  27.60
Micke>              Battery Level: 100.00 %
Micke> --------------------------------------------------------
Micke> vanheden> 
Micke> 
Micke> 
Micke> And it tells vanheden to shutdown if the power is down for more than X minutes.
Micke> (-r 20 = 20 mins in the command above).
Micke> 
Micke> And it logs too:
Micke> 
Micke> vanheden> tail /var/log/upsmon.log 
Micke> Sep 19 00:29:31 <daemon.alert> vanheden UPS: Input line power back
Micke> Oct 14 08:31:11 <daemon.crit> vanheden UPS: Input line power failure
Micke> Oct 14 08:31:13 <daemon.alert> vanheden UPS: Input line power back
Micke> Oct 25 10:00:21 <daemon.info> vanheden UPS: upsmond daemon started - version
Micke> 2.1.3
Micke> Oct 30 09:24:24 <daemon.info> vanheden UPS: upsmond daemon started - version
Micke> 2.1.3
Micke> Jan  2 13:56:47 <daemon.crit> vanheden UPS: Input line power failure
Micke> Jan  2 13:56:47 <daemon.crit> vanheden UPS: Input line power failure
Micke> Jan  2 13:56:48 <daemon.alert> vanheden UPS: Input line power back
Micke> Jan  2 16:30:28 <daemon.crit> vanheden UPS: Input line power failure
Micke> Jan  2 16:30:29 <daemon.alert> vanheden UPS: Input line power back
Micke> 
Micke> 
Micke> Very satisfied customer.
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Hi Micke,
Is this only possible with the Smart-UPS or any other UPS?

TIA

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That statement is a little ambiguous. You will probably get better
response if you better describe what you mean by "slow and horrible"
Also, what video card are you using, what version of X and what X server
do you have configured and what version of FreeBSD?

-Bill

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> hey guys i just installed freebsd on a AMD800mhz computer with 128,egs of ram
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Greetings,

I have a question..

if i would like to change the telnet service port from 23 to 8000 for
example, what will i do ? what files should i change ?

etc/services ?

anything else ?

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randy // fBSD <freebsd@randys.org> types:
> Thanks to those who helped with my clock situation. I am using ntpdate as a cron
> to update the time every hour. Now it seems that my clock is off by at least -.014
> seconds every hour. Is this normal? Why is off so much in one hour?

Well, that amounts to about a 1/3rd of a second a day, which most
people would consider to be pretty accurate. Do you have other systems
(or clocks) that are noticeably more accurate than that?

I'd say ignore it; it's small enough you're not going to get jumps in
the clock; just adjustments.

Actually, if you're always connected, I'd recommend running ntpd
instead of ntpdate out of cron.

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 03:53:14PM -0300, Igor Vieira Debacker wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I have a question..
> 
> if i would like to change the telnet service port from 23 to 8000 for
> example, what will i do ? what files should i change ?
> 
> etc/services ?

There are two options: change ni /etc/services telnet to port 8000
and HUP your inetd. This is good if you only use telnet to go to
your own machine, because next time you type telnet it assumes that
the telnet-port is 8000 for everything and you will end up with a
lot of connection refused if you go to the outside world.

The other option is to define a new service op port 8000 (for
example telnet8k), add the service to your inetd.conf (just copy
the telnet-line and replace the first telnet with telnet8k). You
then can telnet locally to your machine with "telnet localhost
telnet8k" or from a remote machine as "telnet yourhost 8000".

The first one is easier, the second one is cleaner (IMHO that is)

Edwin

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 22 10: 2:10 2001
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Quick question.  I currently am writting a script that will login to a
router and perform a command.  I want to accept variables and process
them.  I want it do something like this:

$./getconfig -i 10.1.1.8 -u oper -p LooT -t cisco -e enabler.
(i for ip address, u for username, p password, t device type and e the
enable password)

Then "getconfig" would accept the entry and process accordingly.  SO far
I'm stuck witht this:

#! /usr/local/bin/bash
#

#script defaults

# usage param
usage="Usage: getme -i <ip> -u <user> -p <password> -t <type> -e
enable......"

while getopts ":i:u:p:t:e" opt; do
	case $opt in
	  i  ) ip=$OPTARG ;;
	  u  ) user=$OPTARG ;;
	  p  ) password=$OPTARG ;;
	  t  ) type=$OPTARG ;;
	  e  ) enable=$OPTARG ;;
	  \? ) echo $usage
		exit 1 ;;
	esac
done

shift $(($OPTIND - 1))
# pass on to expect.

The problem is that I want to use this information to expect into a
router and perform the needed commands but how would I invoke expect
(silently) within the shell script.

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Hello,

i'm having problems with fixating cd-rs with my ide plexwriter 8/4/32A. I
can record tracks, however. It works fine until it reaches the end of
tracks and then burncd exits and prints these error messages:
fixating CD, please wait...
(kernel) acd0: CLOSE_TRACK/SESSION - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=30 ascq=09
error=04
burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCCLOSEDISK): Input/output error

It seems it's something wrong with atapicd - same problem was reported
half a year ago:
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=642548+0+archive/2000/freebsd-current/20000709.freebsd-current
Will it be fixed? Recording works fine on linux/ide-scsi
emulation/cdrecord and win32. Are there any alternatives, maybe scsi
emulation?

Important info about my installation:
FreeBSD  4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Jan 22 07:15:40 CET 2001
root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERN  i386
atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1
on pci0
acd0: CD-RW <PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W8432T> at ata1-master using PIO4

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>>>
>>>On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 02:43:33AM -0500, John Bolster wrote:
>>>> 1. When I log back in and do a 'who' command I see that the
>>>earlier sessions
>>>> are still running. What is the best way to log them out and
>>>close them from
>>>> my new session?
>>>
>>>Is it only in "who" or also in the process-list? If only the first,
>>>then it's only an administrative problem with the logfiles...

Thank you for the advice on killing the process. Sometimes it *is* only in
'who'. In that case, how can I get it displaying the right information?

>>>
>>>> 2. Sometimes I get disconnected and then can't get back in. I
>>>wonder if the
>>>> server has crashed, but if I wait, usually, about 15 minutes
>>>or less I get
>>>> back in again. Once I had to wait until the next day before it
>>>recovered. Is
>>>> this from some mechanism in FreeBSD that notices when a
>>>program has had a
>>>> problem and restarts it? This happens with ftpd as well as ssh.
>>>
>>>Can you still ping it? Can you telnet to port 22? Do you see a
>>>prompt then?
>>>
When it goes down the server doesn't accept any kind of connection. I
realize that the easiest explanation is that the DSL line has gone down
temporarily, but I was just wondering if there could be any other
explanation also.

Thanks,

John



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hello,
i just recently switched from linux to freebsd and im having problems
setting up my sb16 isa softset card using the pcm driver.
i have it defined in my kernel as:

device pcm
device sbc0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15

this allows me to play sound in xmms, but nothing else seems to work (ie.
aviplay, esound)

as a last resort i tried using the old sb drivers:
device snd0
device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1
device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5
device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330

and they work fine...however im still curious as to why the pcm driver
doesnt work when you guys say it should with my card.  i was also wondering if
their were any kernel options specific to the athlon processor or if i can use
the options for the k6 processor with my athlon.

thanx,
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Hello.  I was just wondering if anyone has gotten POP3GWD-1.2 running with FreeBSD 4.x and if you can tell me how you did it.

I am currently running 4.0 Release with Squid, and read that POP3GWD will fetch mail through the proxy.

The docs for pop3gwd specify that you must load TCPD in the INETD as follows:

pop-3  stream  tcp  nowait  nobody  /usr/sbin/tcpd in.pop3gwd

I had to search through the archives, and learned that TCPD had been integrated into the base.  Unfortunately, I do not know what to do next.

I also read that there can be an entry added to hosts.allow for this, but the MAN confused me.

Any help would be appreciated.


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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 02:55:41AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:32:07PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> 
> > > No, I believe he is correct. If you have two shared programs in
> > > memory, the VM system will only have one copy of the libc code shared
> > > between them (similarly with any other common libraries).
> > 
> > That's really something if it's true. I don't see any mention of
> > features like that on rtld(1).
> 
> It's a generic feature of the VM system which shared libraries happen
> to incidentally benefit from. If you map the same object more than
> once, it only maintains one copy of it in VM, until one of the users
> dirties a page (changes something), at which point the page is copied
> ("copy on write").

Thanks for the followup. I did a little research and had found that
answer. As you mention, once a page is 'dirtied' it must be copied. I
realized that needed to happen, but it never occured to me you could
wait for write before you actually do the copy. I see how that can
save memory.

Shows what I know about the VM. Thanks.
-- 
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Hello Igor,

You could change the /etc/services telnet entry from:

telnet           23/tcp

to:

telnet		8000/tcp

Or (this is what I would do) add a new entry to the /etc/inetd.conf like:

mytelnet  stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/libexec/telnetd    telnetd

and a line to the services like:

mytelnet	8000/tcp


And then just comment out the undesired telnet entry. This would make it
clearer to other admins later down the road. (personally choice here). 

Thats my two cents,
--------
Lee Carmichael		WAM!NET Inc.
System Engineer		655 Lone Oak Rd Building E
651-256-5292		Eagan, MN 55121

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Igor Vieira Debacker wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> I have a question..
> 
> if i would like to change the telnet service port from 23 to 8000 for
> example, what will i do ? what files should i change ?
> 
> etc/services ?
> 
> anything else ?
> 
> thanx in advance..
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Greetings,

Every time i re-start my freeBSD i need to type this line

kldload ipwf --> to start the firewall

and then i need to re-type the rulez...

how can i make it do it by itself..=20

i used to know in slackware.. but in FreeBSD it is different...

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I have installed freebsd 4.0, after installing i reboot...then i get the 
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beeping noise and does nothing. Everytime i hit F2 it just beeps and nothing 
happens. Would you know as to why this happens? Or what i might have done 
wrong.


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There are a number of good bits of artwork at:
http://www.svaha.net/daemon/index.html
These are certainly not official, but some are pretty cool and there 
are a couple bmp versions that can be use as splashscreens.  My 
personal favorite is in the downloads section, "may the source be with 
you"
	Here is some more (no bmp's):
http://www.de.freebsd.org/de/gif/bsd/nomads.html
	You could use the Gimp ( /usr/ports/graphics/gimp1 )  to convert non 
bmp files into bmp's

						Tim

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>
> Do you by any chance have any bitmaps images of you devil logo which
> i can put on my desktop???
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Quick question.  I currently am writting a script that will login to a
router and perform a command.  I am accepting variables and process
them like this.

$./getconfig -i 10.1.1.8 -u oper -p LooT -t cisco -e enabler.
(i for ip address, u for username, p password, t device type and e the
enable password)

Then "getconfig" would accept the entry and process accordingly.  SO far
I'm stuck witht this:

#! /usr/local/bin/bash
#
#script defaults
# usage param
usage="Usage: getme -i <ip> -u <user> -p <password> -t <type> -e
enable......"
while getopts ":i:u:p:t:e:" opt; do
        case $opt in
          i  ) ip=$OPTARG ;;
          u  ) user=$OPTARG ;;
          p  ) password=$OPTARG ;;
          t  ) type=$OPTARG ;;
          e  ) enable=$OPTARG ;;
          \? ) echo $usage
                exit 1 ;;
        esac
done
shift $(($OPTIND - 1))
# pass on to expect.

The problem is that I want to use this information to expect into a
router and perform the needed commands.  How would I invoke expect
(silently) within the shell script to spawn an ssh session??

JRS



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After installing FreeBSD 4.02 with Linux compatibility, I have downloaded and
installed Sun's Java 2 JDK1.3. After adding the */jdk1.3/bin to path and
setting JAVA_HOME, I tried to test the JDK, by executing "java".

I get the following error:



usr/local/jdk1.3/bin/java: /usr/bin/expr: not found
/usr/local/jdk1.3/bin/java: /usr/bin/expr: not found
Error: can't find libjava.so.  
----
# ./java
./java: /usr/bin/expr: not found
./java: /usr/bin/expr: not found
Usage: java [-options] class [args...]
           (to execute a class)
   or  java -jar [-options] jarfile [args...]
           (to execute a jar file)

where options include:
    -cp -classpath <directories and zip/jar files separated by :>
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    -D<name>=<value>
                  set a system property
    -verbose[:class|gc|jni]
                  enable verbose output
    -version      print product version and exit
    -showversion  print product version and continue
    -? -help      print this help message
    -X            print help on non-standard options     
----
If I run ./java from */jdk1.3/bin, I get:

Can somebody please tell me what I've done/not done wrong? I am new to UNIX and
FreeBSD, so please don't assume anything.

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> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
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Hello.. I am using FreeBSD 4.2 as a gateway to the outside world and a
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hi, i just got freebsd to work, including X, but i didnt dowload any packages 
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Subject: Re: Auto Startup
To: Igor Vieira Debacker <igor@viamax.com.br>
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On 1/22/01,  Igor Vieira Debacker wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> Every time i re-start my freeBSD i need to type this line
> 
> kldload ipwf --> to start the firewall
> 
> and then i need to re-type the rulez...
> 
> how can i make it do it by itself.. 
> 
> i used to know in slackware.. but in FreeBSD it is different...
> 
> thanx in advance
> 
> 

I'm no expert, but I think you need to compile the ipfw into the kernel so that it
loads at boot then create a config file with all your rules in it.

kernel stuff:
options IPFIREWALL
options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE # for logging
options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
options IPDIVERT

then you need to add some stuff to your rc.conf file:
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_script="/etc/firewall/fwrules" #file for rules
natd_enable="YES"

That's the general idea...here are a couple of links to get you started:
Firewall using PPP but I'm sure could be used/modified for your specific purposes
http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/dialup-firewall/index.html

http://www.defcon1.org/html/NATD-config/firewall-setup/ipfw-1.html

Hope that helps a bit...you prolly want to do this all in console...or you could
potentially lock yourself out.

-randy
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[in reply to Jeremiah Gowdy <jgowdy@home.com>, 22/01/01]

> (a) I pay for my own internet access, so take your bitter feelings over your
> connectivity costs elsewhere.

This has absolutely nothing to do with FreeBSD questions. Please
continue your debating club off-list.

Thanks on behalf of the subscribers.
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blah blah schrieb:
> 
> I have installed freebsd 4.0, after installing i reboot...then i get the
> choice of F1 for DOS and F2 for FreeBSD, when i press F1 i boot into
> windows, but when pressing F2 to boot into FreeBSD it just gives me a
> beeping noise and does nothing. Everytime i hit F2 it just beeps and nothing
> happens. Would you know as to why this happens? Or what i might have done
> wrong.

Probably the install failed. Just a beep indicates the boot loader
cannot be found at the default place. Try to install again. Use the
"novice" install mode. Even experts use it, as the expert mode is left
for tweaking already running systems.

HTH
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i have just recently switched from linux to freebsd and have a few questions
which are still unanswered after reading multiple docs and asking in help
channels.

First off im having a strange problem setting up my sb16 softset isa card
with the pcm driver.  i defined it using:

device pcm
device sbc0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15

and created the device nodes snd0 and then snd1 when it still didnt work but
i continue to only get sound when using xmms...other programs like aviplay
and esound do not play any audio.

i then tried the old sound drivers:

device snd0
device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1
device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5
device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330

and my sound works fine in all programs but im still confused as to why it
wont work right with the pcm driver when you guys say it should.

Finally, I was wondering if there are any new athlon optimization options
(using fbsd 4.2) or if i can use the k-6 options with my athlon.  Im running an
athlon 800 and ever since i switched to bsd i seem to be using an excessive
amount of processor (average of about 10 percent at idle while only running
X).

thank you,
James



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i have just recently switched from linux to freebsd and have a few questions
which are still unanswered after reading multiple docs and asking in help
channels.

First off im having a strange problem setting up my sb16 softset isa card
with the pcm driver.  i defined it using:

device pcm
device sbc0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15

and created the device nodes snd0 and then snd1 when it still didnt work but
i continue to only get sound when using xmms...other programs like aviplay
and esound do not play any audio.

i then tried the old sound drivers:

device snd0
device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1
device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5
device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330

and my sound works fine in all programs but im still confused as to why it
wont work right with the pcm driver when you guys say it should.

Finally, I was wondering if there are any new athlon optimization options
(using fbsd 4.2) or if i can use the k-6 options with my athlon.  Im running an
athlon 800 and ever since i switched to bsd i seem to be using an excessive
amount of processor (average of about 10 percent at idle while only running
X).

thank you,
James



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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 22 11:18:58 2001
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 08:59:18AM -0600, Victor R. Cardona wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 09:43:20AM +0000, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> > FreeBSD users eat raw steak for breakfast, they are always drunk and
> > in trouble with the law, they curse a lot, and hate newbies... roflmao.
> > 
> > Cliff
> 
> That should endear all newbies to FreeBSD :-)

Drat. I knew there was something wrong with me. I only have a glass of
juice for breakfast. But I eat penguin for lunch. Is that OK? Is it still
OK if its only imitation penguin (ie: chicken)?

I think it should be pointed out we (at least me) are not trying to
poke fun at the newbies but are perfectly willing to use any opportunity
to poke fun at ourselves. Essential for maintaining sanity when (for
real, this just now happened at work) an NT workstation falls off the
net and can no longer talk to its momma.

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 05:04:20PM +0200, Adriaan Rossouw wrote:
> I was wondering if someone knew where i could find some large images
> of the BSD daemon, I am looking to use it for wallpapers etc. and I
> only seem to be finding small pictures.

http://www.freebsdmall.com/advocacy/images/
and
http://www.de.freebsd.org/de/gif/bsd/
(the ones at the bottom of the "BSD Nomads" make very nice desktop
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See :

http://www.freebsd.org/java/

Its in the ports colection now (ntive version of 1.2).

Greetings...
Ales

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> After installing FreeBSD 4.02 with Linux compatibility, I have downloaded
and
> installed Sun's Java 2 JDK1.3. After adding the */jdk1.3/bin to path and
> setting JAVA_HOME, I tried to test the JDK, by executing "java".
>
> I get the following error:
>
>
>
> usr/local/jdk1.3/bin/java: /usr/bin/expr: not found
> /usr/local/jdk1.3/bin/java: /usr/bin/expr: not found
> Error: can't find libjava.so.
> ----
> # ./java
> ./java: /usr/bin/expr: not found
> ./java: /usr/bin/expr: not found
> Usage: java [-options] class [args...]
>            (to execute a class)
>    or  java -jar [-options] jarfile [args...]
>            (to execute a jar file)
>
> where options include:
>     -cp -classpath <directories and zip/jar files separated by :>
>                   set search path for application classes and resources
>     -D<name>=<value>
>                   set a system property
>     -verbose[:class|gc|jni]
>                   enable verbose output
>     -version      print product version and exit
>     -showversion  print product version and continue
>     -? -help      print this help message
>     -X            print help on non-standard options
> ----
> If I run ./java from */jdk1.3/bin, I get:
>
> Can somebody please tell me what I've done/not done wrong? I am new to
UNIX and
> FreeBSD, so please don't assume anything.
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Mike Dewhirst
> Dolphintime.com
>
>
>
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jimmy fix schrieb:
> 
> hi, i just got freebsd to work, including X, but i didnt dowload any packages
> yet as i havent configured ppp. since i have a lot of linux stuff that i'd
> like to install and use, does anyone know how i can install rpm packages on
> freebsd?

Have a look at /usr/ports/misc/rpm.

HTH
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 02:04:46PM -0500, jimmy fix wrote:
> hi, i just got freebsd to work, including X, but i didnt dowload any packages 
> yet as i havent configured ppp. since i have a lot of linux stuff that i'd 
> like to install and use, does anyone know how i can install rpm packages on 
> freebsd?

It's `possible' to install and use Linux-rpms, but why not check out
whether there are native FreeBSD versions of what you want to use
first? Check out the list in the ports (/usr/ports)
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basically i wanna change the window manager and put KDE so i can configure ppp 
(its easier from there) and put netscape ( i got it on rpm only) so i can go 
on the web, do cvs, chech for native versions as u said etc...


>===== Original Message From Jonathan Chen <jonathan.chen@itouch.co.nz> =====
>On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 02:04:46PM -0500, jimmy fix wrote:
>> hi, i just got freebsd to work, including X, but i didnt dowload any 
packages
>> yet as i havent configured ppp. since i have a lot of linux stuff that i'd
>> like to install and use, does anyone know how i can install rpm packages on
>> freebsd?
>
>It's `possible' to install and use Linux-rpms, but why not check out
>whether there are native FreeBSD versions of what you want to use
>first? Check out the list in the ports (/usr/ports)
>--
>Jonathan Chen <jonathan.chen@itouch.co.nz>
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where can i find help! wtih freebsd 4.1

the problem, imade changes to rc.conf after that reboot pc but, this =
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 at 14:45:17 -0500, jimmy fix wrote:
> basically i wanna change the window manager and put KDE so i can 
> configure ppp (its easier from there) and put netscape ( i got it on 
> rpm only) so i can go on the web, do cvs, chech for native versions as 
> u said etc...

You don't need RPMs for any of that stuff.  Learn how to use the ports 
collection.  See http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/ports.html.

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 02:45:17PM -0500, jimmy fix wrote:
> basically i wanna change the window manager and put KDE so i can configure ppp 
> (its easier from there)

Installing a KDE ppp configuration tool for Linux will *NOT* work for
FreeBSD, since Linux configuration file locations are different enough
from FreeBSD that it won't find anything to work against.

Configuring PPP is usually as simple as editing /etc/ppp/ppp.conf,
editing the "set device ...", "set phone ...", "set authname ..." and
"set authkey ..." lines. And then running the ppp(1) program to see
what happens.

If you've got the ports system installed (and you've got Internet
connectivity), you can build KDE by:

	cd /usr/ports/x11/kde2
	make
	make install

>and put netscape ( i got it on rpm only) so i can go 
> on the web, do cvs, chech for native versions as u said etc...

To install netscape:

	cd /usr/ports/www/netscape47-communicator
	make
	make install

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:59:15PM -0600, j wrote:
> where can i find help! wtih freebsd 4.1
> 
> the problem, imade changes to rc.conf after that reboot pc but, this stop and display next message:
> error 16: rc.conf enter path for shell or enter to /bin/sh 
> 
> i press enter, but it cannot let me load any editor to view file rc.conf

Once you're in single user as root,

	mount -a

Then you'll be able to use an editor as well as write to the
filesystems.
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On 1/22/01,  j wrote:

> where can i find help! wtih freebsd 4.1
> 
> the problem, imade changes to rc.conf after that reboot pc but, this stop and 
> display next message:
> error 16: rc.conf enter path for shell or enter to /bin/sh 
> 
> i press enter, but it cannot let me load any editor to view file rc.conf
> 
You need to mount your partitions then you should be able to use any editor to
edit your rc.conf file

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I have an Oracle 7 DB running on Solaris that I want to be able to use
Perl DBI from a FreeBSD box (Dell 2450) to access the Solaris box. I
have an Oracle 8i CD for linux that I'm trying to install on the BSD
box. Below is the error I get when I try and run the Oracle installer.
Any help with the error would be appreciated. Also, am I even going
about this the right way - trying to install the client bins on the BSD
box so I can access the Solaris box, or is there an easier/better way?
Can I even use Oracle8i for linux bins to access an Oracle7 Solaris box?


/cdrom/install/linux/runIns.sh

GUI comes up but when I hit 'next' it crashes with this error:

Exception java.lang.NullPointerException occurred..
java.lang.NullPointerException
        at
oracle.sysman.oii.oiif.oiifp.OiifpWizLocPanel.getDefHomeLocation(OiifpWizLocPanel.java:978)
        at
oracle.sysman.oii.oiif.oiifp.OiifpWizLocPanel.refreshCombos(OiifpWizLocPanel.java:815)
        at
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        at
oracle.sysman.oii.oiif.oiifp.OiifpWizLocPanel.<init>(OiifpWizLocPanel.java:322)
        at
oracle.sysman.oii.oiif.oiifp.OiifpWizLocPanel.<init>(OiifpWizLocPanel.java:327)
        at
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        at
oracle.sysman.oii.oiif.oiifb.OiifbWizChainDlgElem.doOperation(OiifbWizChainDlgElem.java:409)
        at
oracle.sysman.oii.oiif.oiifb.OiifbCondIterator.iterate(OiifbCondIterator.java:140)
        at
oracle.sysman.oii.oiic.OiicPullSession.doOperation(OiicPullSession.java:404)
        at
oracle.sysman.oii.oiic.OiicSessionWrapper.doOperation(OiicSessionWrapper.java:78)
        at
oracle.sysman.oii.oiif.oiifb.OiifbLinearIterator.iterate(OiifbLinearIterator.java:116)
        at
oracle.sysman.oii.oiic.OiicInstaller.run(OiicInstaller.java:287)
        at
oracle.sysman.oii.oiic.OiicInstaller.main(OiicInstaller.java:439)


If I run it with -responseFile GUI still comes up and I can hit 'next'
and it looks like it is loading the products.jar file but then errors
with:

"There was a problem in the staging area. Please make sure the 'Source'
and 'Destination' specified are valid"

I edited the ee_typical.rsp file and changed the values to where I want
to install - this dir /home/oracle is owned by oracle and 777.

Thanks,
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Hi

Basically, IP is layer3 and MAC is layer 2 so I think there is no way out
about MAC adress filtering,


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" <freebsd@gushi.org>
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> Hey all,
>
> I'm currently evaluating the feasibility of using a pure FreeBSD based
> solution versus ETInc's bandwidth manager, which I am considering
> purchasing.  Can someone tell me if the following are possible:
>
> 1. Is there a way to make ipfw deny traffic by MAC address? (We have
> colocation customers, and are trying to prevent "stolen" IP addresses.)
>
> 2. Is there any way to set up a dual-NIC freeBSD box as a COMPLETELY
> TRANSPARENT bridge (meaning our customers will not have to change their
> gateway address, and meaning that the machine doing the bandwidth
> management/limiting/throttling will not show up on traceroutes?  (I prefer
> this because it makes migration easier, and it also makes things more
> secure (as in, nobody will attack a router that doesn't show up on
> traceroutes).
>
> 3. Is there any way to graph the information shown by ipfw?  Like MRTG?
>
> I think that's all.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dan Mahoney
>
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If I wanted to add some options to the configuration of amanda in
/usr/ports/misc/amanda24

can I just edit the "Makefile" and add what I need? then do a "make && make
install" ??

I've been struggling with a rebuilt backup server.. I have amanda backup up
other unix boxes just fine, but it just times out when attempting to backup
some NT and Win9x boxes.. almost as if the smbclient option isn't taking.

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Here's a link that might help:

http://www.fnal.gov/docs/UNIX/unix_at_fermilab/htmldoc/rev1997/uatf-39.html

If you stick to:

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789.-_

You can't go wrong.  

Bill Restemeyer wrote:
> 
> I am developing a system in Perl that runs on FreeBSD which lets users
> create files and directories.  I need to know which characters are
> acceptable in filenames and directory names and which are not.
> 
> Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bill Restemeyer
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I have successfully compiled KDE 2.0

Now, when I try to use it under "xdm" it complains telling me
that the program "dcopserver" is not working...

I tried to start it but it did not work either.

what can I do?
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Actually there is ethfw available. Here's the link: http://spe.kakito.com/

Cheers,
Mikel

MuratBSD wrote:

> Hi
>
> Basically, IP is layer3 and MAC is layer 2 so I think there is no way out
> about MAC adress filtering,
>
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> > Hey all,
> >
> > I'm currently evaluating the feasibility of using a pure FreeBSD based
> > solution versus ETInc's bandwidth manager, which I am considering
> > purchasing.  Can someone tell me if the following are possible:
> >
> > 1. Is there a way to make ipfw deny traffic by MAC address? (We have
> > colocation customers, and are trying to prevent "stolen" IP addresses.)
> >
> > 2. Is there any way to set up a dual-NIC freeBSD box as a COMPLETELY
> > TRANSPARENT bridge (meaning our customers will not have to change their
> > gateway address, and meaning that the machine doing the bandwidth
> > management/limiting/throttling will not show up on traceroutes?  (I prefer
> > this because it makes migration easier, and it also makes things more
> > secure (as in, nobody will attack a router that doesn't show up on
> > traceroutes).
> >
> > 3. Is there any way to graph the information shown by ipfw?  Like MRTG?
> >
> > I think that's all.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Dan Mahoney
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I've seen some mention of the "No /boot/loader" message but haven't really 
found any fix.  Here's what's happening:  We have been attempting to 
install FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE on a pc but after the install, we get the 
following:

No  /boot/loader

 >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot:
No /kernel

 >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot:


The machine is a 650MHz Pentium III, with 256MB of RAM one 3COM PCI 
3C905C-TX and the following disk configuration:

	Primary master:		IBM DPTA-373420
	Primary slave:		IBM DPTA-373420
	Secondary master:	IBM DPTA-373420
	Secondary slave:	Toshiba CD-ROM

The IBM drives have a capacity of 32864MB.  In the BIOS, I've tried setting 
the mode on the disks to:  Auto, LBA and LARGE.  In addition, when using 
FDISK in the install, I set each disk to dangerously dedicated.  The 
operating system is installed on the primary master.  I've also played 
around with the size of the root partition, initially setting it to 5GB but 
now going down to 2GB.  After each install, we get the same error mentioned 
above.

Any thoughts?  Suggestions?  Pointers?

Any help would be extremely appreciated.



Thanks,

Oscar



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Hi

Again me; sorry

I setup some NATD and IPFW options, but my problems going on

I opened the port redirection in the NATD options, it is about FTP Data port
(TCP-20) so I also opened FTP Data port on the firewall rules.
My ftp clients automatically setup passive mode ftp by itself, but I cannot
any download, upload etc

I will start send and get gigabytes of data to Europa in February over this
firewall. But I cannot  setup FTP operations

Please help me
10.100.100.1  is fxp0
195.155.33.55  is fxp1

//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----//
IPFW Section


00020 145877  61321709 divert 8668 ip from any to any via fxp1
00030    692     67424 allow ip from any to any via lo0
00040 276165 120791887 allow tcp from any to any established
00060      0         0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
00200   8523    403556 allow tcp from any to any 80 setup
00201      0         0 allow tcp from any 80 to any
00202      0         0 allow tcp from any to any 80
00240      0         0 allow tcp from any 20 to any
00245      0         0 allow tcp from any to any 20
00250      0         0 allow tcp from any 21 to any
00255     23      1024 allow tcp from any to any 21
00260      2        96 allow tcp from any to any 22
00265      0         0 allow tcp from any 22 to any
00270      0         0 allow tcp from any 25 to any
00275     56      2656 allow tcp from any to any 25
00280   2766    431894 allow udp from any 53 to any
00285   1904    131195 allow udp from any to any 53
00290      0         0 allow tcp from any 110 to any
00295   2575    122904 allow tcp from any to any 110
00300      0         0 allow tcp from any 119 to any
00305     20       960 allow tcp from any to any 119
00310      0         0 allow tcp from any 443 to any
00315    162      7776 allow tcp from any to any 443
08000    375    408344 allow icmp from any to any
09000      0         0 allow tcp from any 3128 to any
09001    183      8656 allow tcp from any to any 3128
65532   3267    294390 deny udp from any to any via 195.155.33.55  #fxp1 =
195.155.33.55
65533      0         0 deny udp from any to any via fxp1
65534   4397    372716 deny ip from any to any
65535      1        48 deny ip from any to any

//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----//
rc.conf  section

gateway_enable="YES"
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_script="/etc/rc.murat"

natd_enable="YES"
natd_interface="fxp1"
natd_flags=" -dynamic -same_ports -f /etc/natd.conf"


//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----//
natd.conf (That's all), 10.100.100.1  is fxp0 on my FreeBSD


redirect_port tcp 10.100.100.1:20-21 20-21
redirect_port tcp 10.100.100.1:23 23



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Hi,

 We have a NIS server that runs on FreeBSD (4.0-R) serving FreeBSD, Solaris as
well as SGI clients. When netgroup is modified with a new client it can be seen
by all clients correctly. 

 However mountd in FreeBSD clients cannot see the updated netgroup. (Verified
by showmount -e). It can only see the updated netgroup when a HUP is sent to
mountd. Since several resources in FreeBSD clients are being exported, this
means HUPing mountd in all those. Solaris, SGI clients DO NOT have this
problem.  

Can anyone suggest a reason why mountd cannot see the updated netgroup and a
possible solution ? 

Thanks in advance for any help.

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 07:21:04AM -0800, randy // fBSD wrote:
> Thanks to those who helped with my clock situation. I am using ntpdate as a cron
> to update the time every hour. Now it seems that my clock is off by at least -.014
> seconds every hour. Is this normal? Why is off so much in one hour?

This is presumably why you are using ntpdate .. (or why anyone is ?)

Cliff


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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 07:42:14AM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote:
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> > > Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> types:
> > > > > Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> types:
> > > > > > On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:48, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > > > > > > Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios <gustavo@ifour.com.br> types:
> > > > > > > > I compiled and executed a small program and it's eating about 336
> > > > > > > > of real memory (rss) and 840 of virtual size memory (vsz), may some
> > > > > > > > one explain why a simple program eats about 1 MB of memory?
> > > > > > > You linked it shared, right? That 1MB includes all of every shared
> > > > > > > library it uses, whether it uses those functions or not.
> > > > > > Pardon ! It certainly does not ! That is the point of shared libraries -
> > > > > > the code is *shared* between processes using it. The required code is
> > > > > > then made dynamically available.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Shared libraries are mapped into the memory space of the process. As
> > > > > such, they are part of the memory of the process, and should be
> > > > > counted when adding up the memory of the process, so it'll be the rss
> > > > > (if it's resident) and vsz of the process.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Whether or not the physical memory is shared is another question, and
> > > > > I'll let you all continue to debate that. I will say that, given the
> > > > > price of disks, if the memory isn't shared, a system with static
> > > > > binaries might be a better choice than one with dynamic binaries.
> > > > 
> > > > So what does the word shared in shared memory mean then :)
> > > > Hard to see what the point is if all processes load their own copy
> > > > of shared memory libraries at run time..
> > > > I think you will find that physically speaking there is only one libc...
> > > > in memory under the shared model.
> > > 
> > > Since you replied to me, and I didn't have an opinion about shared
> > > libraries being shared on memory or just disk, I'm assuming you're
> > > claiming that my analysis of the way libc is used and the memory
> > > counted.
> > > 
> > > Checking usage is easy: just truss a binary that uses shared libc, and
> > > look for it in the output. Here's what I find:
> > > 
> > > access("/usr/lib/libc.so.3",0)                   = 0 (0x0)
> > > open("/usr/lib/libc.so.3",0,027757775424)        = 3 (0x3)
> > > fstat(3,0xbfbffae4)                              = 0 (0x0)
> > > read(0x3,0xbfbfeab4,0x1000)                      = 4096 (0x1000)
> > > mmap(0x0,643072,0x5,0x2,3,0x0)                   = 672337920 (0x28131000)
> > > mmap(0x281b5000,20480,0x3,0x12,3,0x83000)        = 672878592 (0x281b5000)
> > > mmap(0x281ba000,81920,0x3,0x1012,-1,0x0)         = 672899072 (0x281ba000)
> > > close(3)                                         = 0 (0x0)
> > > 
> > > I.e. - it gets opened and mmap'ed into memory exactly like I
> > > said. After it's mapped in, a second area is allocated r/w instead of
> > > r/x, and a second r/w area is allocated from swap. They are all part
> > > of the memory used by the process, and show up in the appropriate
> > > sizes.
> > Yes, it is mapped into the processes's address space.
> > It is not copied into it.
> 
> Correct. This pretty much settles the question of whether the space is
> shared or not - some of it is, and some of it isn't :-). The first
> segment (628K) is shared and non-writable; the second (20K) is shared
> with copy-on-write, and the third (80K) isn't shared at all. See the
> mmap man page and /usr/include/sys/mman.h for details.

I am familiar with themm:)

> The answer to the original question is still the same, though. The
> reason the virtual set size of the program is so large is that the
> virtual space of the process includes libc.so (by mapping into place),
> which adds nearly 3/4ths of a meg. The resident set size should
> include all pages in that shared hunk of memory that are resident, no
> matter which process using it referenced the page.
> 
Ok. But shared libraries have nothing to do with saving disk space..

Cliff


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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 10:59:32AM -0800, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> >
> >> The Hermit Hacker replied
> 
> (f) Maybe you could try getting a better job to pay for your internet
> access, I'd hate to be taking food from your mouth by sending you email.
>
get well soon :)

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I have an IBM thinkpad 760cd and I can't get it to configure the video
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On Mon, 22 January 2001, Mike Meyer wrote:

> 
> Steve M <slavik944@metconnect.com> types:
> 
> I've fixed the formatting on your mail. Could you please hit newline
> every 70 characters or so, or configure your mailer to wrap your
> paragraphs before it sends the email? It makes it a lot easier to read
> and reply to.

Sorry I'm having trouble figuring out why my email doesnt wrap
automatically all of a sudden.  
I'm trying to be more careful in the future.


> > I guess to rephrase my earlier 'condemming' of documentation, what
> > bothers me is having to have to run from one source to another to
> > find the answer.  The man pages are useful but to the laymen they
> > are in geek speak.
> >
> > Your's is only the second email I've read regarding this and hope
> > that there are people who are little bit more objective than you
> > appear to be.
> 
> Since you asked for another opinion, you get mine. I agree, having to
> go from one source to another to find information is a major
> pain. Even worse, you don't always find the information you're looking
> for.
> 
> On the other hand, my experience with Windows is that you also have to
> go from one source to another to find information - and you fail to
> find the information you're looking for more often than not. I admit
> that more often than not I'm looking for information that most users
> don't care about - but at least on Unix-like systems, I can usually
> find it. On the open source ones, I can always find it if I'm willing
> to dig deep enough.
> 
> I have used systems that had nearly complete documentation in one
> place - usually referred to as "the <color> wall", for its 10s of
> shelf feet of manuals all with the same color binding. VMS manuals
> tended to be useful. MVS tended to do things like "Error XXX#### - see
> error YYY####", "Error YYY### - see error ZZZ####", and finally "Error
> ZZZ#### - probable user error, correct and resubmit." Oddly enough,
> source was available for both of those, if only on microfiche.
> 
> The point being that computer systems documentation all pretty much
> sucks.

I'll add to that that the 'free/public versions' docs of *nix are better than most.

In my defense I did say that I was venting, being truly
frustrated by my lack of progress.  

I will also admit that I 'learned' MS first but it's easier to 
use only in the sense that it is a 'toy'.  I wouldnt
consider it a real OS, it gets proven to me everyday when
I use my NT box at work.  When I switch from window
to window or window to desktop the desktop blinks like a
cheap video game.  It's the little things that get
to me.  Also I learned MS because it was
a necessity.  I was working at a PC store putting home PC's
together.  

One other thing, I got an interesting email from someone 
accusing me of being a 'baby' ever since my Linux
box ate my email.  
To that I would respond by saying the following.
Every chracter that I type on my Linux box my hard
drive on the computer has to 'grind' like as if it's etching
another character on it's medium.  
Since Linux touts to be one of the best OS's wouldnt
it stand to reason that I should expect more from it?
Or atleast not something that I would expect an NT 
machine to do?

In either case it doesnt really matter because I 
still have to get home tonight and get my modem to work
with my ISP or find out why it doesnt.  On my BSD 
that is.

Label me a heretic if you wish, I can assure you 
that you dont have to question my devotion
to the *nix's.  The benefit's far outweigh
the drawbacks as compared to NT.  

I know that once everything is up and running it 
will be running like a swiss watch.

Steve M




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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 03:22:26PM -0500, Bill Restemeyer wrote:
> I am developing a system in Perl that runs on FreeBSD which lets users
> create files and directories.  I need to know which characters are
> acceptable in filenames and directory names and which are not.
> 
The only not characters *not* acceptable are null and forward slash.
As to whether it is a good idea to allow a file to be created
called "<BS><BS><^L><^S>tee@#$!&&*()" is another question !

Filenames with shell metacharacters in them should be avoided
(such as *), and files starting with a - (minus sign) are a pain.
etc etc...

Remember files that start with a . (period) are so-called hidden
files and don;t show on a normal ls listing.

And of course upper case and lower are different.

Good Luck

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I just have burned a FreeBSD CD to install it, but is there somewhere I can
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I have read in the manual that to use PPPoE we have to recompile the kernel
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Could someone better versed in burncd please shed some light or perhaps
point me in a direction that I can look into? It would be much
appreciated.

Command and error:
nickb@gandalf$ sudo burncd -f /dev/acd0c -s 4 -e data
/home/nickb/evaluation-7.0.iso fixate
Password:
next writeable LBA 0
writing from file /home/nickb/evaluation-7.0.iso size 662444 KB

only wrote -1 of 32768 bytes

burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCCLOSETRACK): Input/output error

dmesg:
ad0: 29314MB <IBM-DTLA-307030> [59560/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66
acd0: CD-RW <CREATIVE CD-RW RW8433E> at ata1-master using PIO4
afd0: 239MB <IOMEGA ZIP 250 ATAPI> [239/64/32] at ata1-slave using PIO3



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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 09:13:09PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:

[...]

> Ok. But shared libraries have nothing to do with saving disk space..

1000 programs linked against a shared library use less space that 1000
programs linked against a static library.
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Hello.
I have a problem.
When I try to "ping 0.0.0.0" or "ping localhost" I got answer from
Default GW.
OS FreeBSD3.4
Two NIC.
One NetCard  going to internet, other NetCard to local network.
How to fix it.
Thank you.
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On Monday 22 January 2001 05:08, Alex Toushek wrote:

> > How do I restrict users to only have access in their own home
> directories?
>
>
You can run them in a restricted shell, in bash you use the -r
flag. I have no idea what it is in csh/tcsh.

It can be done in the Bourne Shell as well, that used to be
called "rsh", but "rsh" is something different now. Have
a look in the manual pages , probably something in there.

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I have FreeBSD 4.2 with apache13 and mod_php4.

I have added AddModule and LoadModule for PHP4

I cannot get any php files to execute.

This configuiration runs fine on an identical machine except for it does
not virtual host where the non- functional machine does.

All I should need are cgi-bin directives for each virtual host that wants
to run php scripts?

cgi's run fine, but php's do not.

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On Monday 22 January 2001 23:33, Jonathan Chen wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 09:13:09PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Ok. But shared libraries have nothing to do with saving disk
> > space..
>
> 1000 programs linked against a shared library use less space that
> 1000 programs linked against a static library.

You should read the rest of this thread.
The point is that shared libraries were not invented for
that sole purpose.

Cliff


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Hi,

I hope somebody is watching the list right now.

I've installed FreeBSD 4.2 -RELEASE on
my home pc and have it dual - booting with
WIN98 on separate hard drives.

I just set up and paid for an account with a
local ISP who confirmed they support BSD,
UNIX and Linux connections.

I got all the information from them, domain
name, primary & secondary DNS, etc. and
configured kPPP.  They advised I use PAP
authentication.

Everytime I dial, when kPPP connects, it
core dumps and I get the following error:

>pppd[426]: Inf file /etc/ppp/options: unrecognized option 'o^Z'

I've followed all the set up instructions in
the kPPP help section regarding PAP
configuration and nothing seems to work.

I asked tech support at the ISP if I needed
to used "script-based" authentication and
he said no.  He said PAP should work.

Can anybody help me get this fixed?

Thanks

-r




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Might I recommend ISP-Hookup howto? heh heh :)

VEG

Mark

On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 04:57:41PM -0500, Steve M wrote:
> On Mon, 22 January 2001, Mike Meyer wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Steve M <slavik944@metconnect.com> types:
> > 
> > I've fixed the formatting on your mail. Could you please hit newline
> > every 70 characters or so, or configure your mailer to wrap your
> > paragraphs before it sends the email? It makes it a lot easier to read
> > and reply to.
> 
> Sorry I'm having trouble figuring out why my email doesnt wrap
> automatically all of a sudden.  
> I'm trying to be more careful in the future.
> 
> 
> > > I guess to rephrase my earlier 'condemming' of documentation, what
> > > bothers me is having to have to run from one source to another to
> > > find the answer.  The man pages are useful but to the laymen they
> > > are in geek speak.
> > >
> > > Your's is only the second email I've read regarding this and hope
> > > that there are people who are little bit more objective than you
> > > appear to be.
> > 
> > Since you asked for another opinion, you get mine. I agree, having to
> > go from one source to another to find information is a major
> > pain. Even worse, you don't always find the information you're looking
> > for.
> > 
> > On the other hand, my experience with Windows is that you also have to
> > go from one source to another to find information - and you fail to
> > find the information you're looking for more often than not. I admit
> > that more often than not I'm looking for information that most users
> > don't care about - but at least on Unix-like systems, I can usually
> > find it. On the open source ones, I can always find it if I'm willing
> > to dig deep enough.
> > 
> > I have used systems that had nearly complete documentation in one
> > place - usually referred to as "the <color> wall", for its 10s of
> > shelf feet of manuals all with the same color binding. VMS manuals
> > tended to be useful. MVS tended to do things like "Error XXX#### - see
> > error YYY####", "Error YYY### - see error ZZZ####", and finally "Error
> > ZZZ#### - probable user error, correct and resubmit." Oddly enough,
> > source was available for both of those, if only on microfiche.
> > 
> > The point being that computer systems documentation all pretty much
> > sucks.
> 
> I'll add to that that the 'free/public versions' docs of *nix are better than most.
> 
> In my defense I did say that I was venting, being truly
> frustrated by my lack of progress.  
> 
> I will also admit that I 'learned' MS first but it's easier to 
> use only in the sense that it is a 'toy'.  I wouldnt
> consider it a real OS, it gets proven to me everyday when
> I use my NT box at work.  When I switch from window
> to window or window to desktop the desktop blinks like a
> cheap video game.  It's the little things that get
> to me.  Also I learned MS because it was
> a necessity.  I was working at a PC store putting home PC's
> together.  
> 
> One other thing, I got an interesting email from someone 
> accusing me of being a 'baby' ever since my Linux
> box ate my email.  
> To that I would respond by saying the following.
> Every chracter that I type on my Linux box my hard
> drive on the computer has to 'grind' like as if it's etching
> another character on it's medium.  
> Since Linux touts to be one of the best OS's wouldnt
> it stand to reason that I should expect more from it?
> Or atleast not something that I would expect an NT 
> machine to do?
> 
> In either case it doesnt really matter because I 
> still have to get home tonight and get my modem to work
> with my ISP or find out why it doesnt.  On my BSD 
> that is.
> 
> Label me a heretic if you wish, I can assure you 
> that you dont have to question my devotion
> to the *nix's.  The benefit's far outweigh
> the drawbacks as compared to NT.  
> 
> I know that once everything is up and running it 
> will be running like a swiss watch.
> 
> Steve M
> 
> 
> 
> 
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 11:38:09PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> On Monday 22 January 2001 23:33, Jonathan Chen wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 09:13:09PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Ok. But shared libraries have nothing to do with saving disk
> > > space..
> >
> > 1000 programs linked against a shared library use less space that
> > 1000 programs linked against a static library.
> 
> You should read the rest of this thread.

I did.

> The point is that shared libraries were not invented for
> that sole purpose.

That's true, but what you're saying is incorrect as well; when shared
libraries came out ages ago, the big thing going for them then were
that you saved both memory AND disk space.
-- 
Jonathan Chen <jonathan.chen@itouch.co.nz>
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George.Giles@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu wrote:
> 
> I have FreeBSD 4.2 with apache13 and mod_php4.
> 
> I have added AddModule and LoadModule for PHP4
> 
> I cannot get any php files to execute.
> 
> This configuiration runs fine on an identical machine except for it does
> not virtual host where the non- functional machine does.
> 
> All I should need are cgi-bin directives for each virtual host that wants
> to run php scripts?

Do you have the application type specified in the httpd.conf?
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php

??


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I have some weirdness occurring with a couple of SGI workstations. The
server is FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE running as an NFS server.

My /etc/exports file consists of one line:
/data/public -mapall=nobody:nobody
(machine is behind a firewall, so anyone who can connect is trusted)

However, when a user logs in as root to the SGI station, he can
read/write all over the FreeBSD server with no problems, all files are
created as root:wheel (why group wheel?)
But if a normal user logs in to the SGI station, he can read but not
write the NFS export on FreeBSD. It seems like a permissions problem to
me.
Why is the -mapall directive apparently not working? Any thoughts?

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 04:41:25AM -0500, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
 
> I use FreeBSD 4.0/4.2 and Suse Linux 7.0.
> I am happy with both of them.

What a co-insidence. Same here! I went from SuSE 6.0 to FreeBSD 4.0
and really like it.

Mark


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Heya, I'm new to FreeBSD and I installed Netscape 6.0 without any =
problems a few days ago.
I installed gtk+ 1.2.8 o glib yesterday  and since then I get this =
error:

nsNativeComponentLoader: =
GetFactory(usr/local/netscape/components/libwidget_gtk.do)
Load failed wither error: libgmodule-1.2.so.0: ELF file OS ABI invalid

Searched the archive, but couldn't find an answer that would help me =
with this problem.
If anyone out there could help me, I would appriciate it alot :).
Thanks in advance.

/Mike



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Now that I've wrapped pop3 and IMAP in SSL, my last unsecure service
is FTP.  What are people using as a replacement to transfer files?
I am particularly interested in a method that could be recommended to
my Windows users (i.e. need some graphical client for Win).

Any ideas very welcome,
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I would recommend using the regular userland ppp

on the command-line type "man ppp" and also look online (from windows I
guess) at the handbook on www.freebsd.org... the link is on the right,
just look for ppp.



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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, rootman wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I hope somebody is watching the list right now.
> 
> I've installed FreeBSD 4.2 -RELEASE on
> my home pc and have it dual - booting with
> WIN98 on separate hard drives.
> 
> I just set up and paid for an account with a
> local ISP who confirmed they support BSD,
> UNIX and Linux connections.
> 
> I got all the information from them, domain
> name, primary & secondary DNS, etc. and
> configured kPPP.  They advised I use PAP
> authentication.
> 
> Everytime I dial, when kPPP connects, it
> core dumps and I get the following error:
> 
> >pppd[426]: Inf file /etc/ppp/options: unrecognized option 'o^Z'
> 
> I've followed all the set up instructions in
> the kPPP help section regarding PAP
> configuration and nothing seems to work.
> 
> I asked tech support at the ISP if I needed
> to used "script-based" authentication and
> he said no.  He said PAP should work.
> 
> Can anybody help me get this fixed?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -r
> 
> 
> 
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 06:32:25PM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> Now that I've wrapped pop3 and IMAP in SSL, my last unsecure service
> is FTP.  What are people using as a replacement to transfer files?
> I am particularly interested in a method that could be recommended to
> my Windows users (i.e. need some graphical client for Win).
> 
> Any ideas very welcome,

If you provide shell access through ssh then zmodem is availble for client to server
uploads. Also, available is scp. Scp is a little harder for the avg Win user to manage. As far as
I know there is no graphical ftp for scp like ws_ftp. It's more cmd line driven.

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Hi

You would get this message because this is the address of the default
gateway.

0.0.0.0 will always go to the default route.  Your NIC on the default route
subnet will reply from the default route if it points to that nic.

Gordon

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> Hello.
> I have a problem.
> When I try to "ping 0.0.0.0" or "ping localhost" I got answer from
> Default GW.
> OS FreeBSD3.4
> Two NIC.
> One NetCard  going to internet, other NetCard to local network.
> How to fix it.
> Thank you.
> Sergey.
>
>
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Julien Pham wrote:
> Someone told me of a compareason chart I can find on the FreeBSD CD, but can
> I find this chart elsewhere, without downloading the whole ISO file ?

FreeBSD.org - documentation.  You should find just about everything you need,
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David <davidd@datasphereweb.com> writes:

> If you provide shell access through ssh then zmodem is availble for
> client to server uploads. Also, available is scp. Scp is a little
> harder for the avg Win user to manage. As far as I know there is no
> graphical ftp for scp like ws_ftp. It's more cmd line driven.

Hmm.  You've gotta agree that this is too geeky for your average
point-and-click guy.

Come to think of it, can I set up ftp daemon to use a different
password file from the main one?  Still take the user to his/her home
directory, just use a different password, like CVS's pserver does.

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 06:52:09PM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> David <davidd@datasphereweb.com> writes:
> 
> > If you provide shell access through ssh then zmodem is availble for
> > client to server uploads. Also, available is scp. Scp is a little
> > harder for the avg Win user to manage. As far as I know there is no
> > graphical ftp for scp like ws_ftp. It's more cmd line driven.
> 
> Hmm.  You've gotta agree that this is too geeky for your average
> point-and-click guy.
> 
> Come to think of it, can I set up ftp daemon to use a different
> password file from the main one?  Still take the user to his/her home
> directory, just use a different password, like CVS's pserver does.

And how many users do you think will just set it up with the same password as their pop3? Unless
of course you enforce different passwords.

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The default setup says that PHP files are expected
to be in the /usr/local/www/data directory.
Does that help?


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I have FreeBSD 4.2 with apache13 and mod_php4.

I have added AddModule and LoadModule for PHP4

I cannot get any php files to execute.

This configuiration runs fine on an identical machine except for it does
not virtual host where the non- functional machine does.

All I should need are cgi-bin directives for each virtual host that wants
to run php scripts?

cgi's run fine, but php's do not.

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I bought my SB Live Value card for about 50 bucks, thinking it was a decent price to pay for a soundcard with a digital output. Of course, it turned out that the digital output was an accessory, which cost me another $30.

At the time, I was running linux, and with the help of a nifty little tool called `dm', I was able to adjust the volume settings for the card.

The same is possible in FreeBSD using `mixer', but it will not change the digital output volume level, which is the only one I use (and no, I don't want to have to adjust the volume on my reciever/amp).

Has anyone come across a simular problem/got any idea if it's fixable?

All I've done is to rebuild my kernel after adding `options	pcm' to it, and then do a ./MAKEDEV snd0.

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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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> ...
> However, I can say that in my capacity as the guy that gets asked
> the question at the ISP I work for, the single biggest reason that
> people DON'T pursue SSL is because they perceive that a SSL cert
> costs $100 or more.  Now, maybe to you that's not a lot of money (to me
> it's not a lot either) but it seems to be to most of the folks publishing
> websites on our servers that accept credit cards via forms and whatnot.
> Now, maybe we don't have SCORES of people with websites, but we
> have a far higher number of websites that take credit cards with
> no SSL at all, then sites that take cards and have SSL.  (and,
> please let's not go into how bad this is, I know and the site
> owners have been told but they do it anyway.  They probably also
> drive SUV's too.)

Quite a rant. My compliments <g>.

I fear you're not far of the mark. Though there's also disinterest
to calc in. So long as the manure hasn't hit the fan, who cares?

They look outside, see the sun shining and think that life ain't
so bad after all.

Also, they - the CA's that be - give a new meaning to red-tape.
I decided to bite the bullet and get meself a Real Certificate
instead of using a self-signed one (e.g. https://nisser.com/
or, for a sparkling new one, https://nl.nisser.com/).

Though they - Thawte in this case, I believe now part of VeriSign
hence NSI (yack, pshaw, phoeyee!) - claim to answer any and all
question they do not give the answer I want to hear <g>. Hence
that latest self signed one. Ah well.

In this case it was about me wanting a certificate for Nisser
though the company is called eBOA. No can do.

Period.

When I've got time I'll send them a whachacallit (the thing you
put into the front of the X.509 process) and see what happens.

Still (and to sum up :) this is another aspect. Like you said, those
$100 or so I can possibly spare. If only they would provide what
I'm looking for!

Roelof

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 03:42:27PM -0800, David (davidd@datasphereweb.com) wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 06:32:25PM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> > Now that I've wrapped pop3 and IMAP in SSL, my last unsecure service
> > is FTP.  What are people using as a replacement to transfer files?
> > I am particularly interested in a method that could be recommended to
> > my Windows users (i.e. need some graphical client for Win).
> > 
> > Any ideas very welcome,
> 
> If you provide shell access through ssh then zmodem is availble for client to server
> uploads. Also, available is scp. Scp is a little harder for the avg Win user to manage. As far as
> I know there is no graphical ftp for scp like ws_ftp. It's more cmd line driven.

There is: SecureFX (www.vandyke.com). Not only it does SCP, but site-to-site transfers and a lot of other advanced
stuff.

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Ok, thanks.

I've already tried it but the carrier just
drops.

..Guess I'll have to do some more reading.



Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:

> I would recommend using the regular userland ppp
>
> on the command-line type "man ppp" and also look online (from windows I
> guess) at the handbook on www.freebsd.org... the link is on the right,
> just look for ppp.
>
> =================================================================
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>
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, rootman wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I hope somebody is watching the list right now.
> >
> > I've installed FreeBSD 4.2 -RELEASE on
> > my home pc and have it dual - booting with
> > WIN98 on separate hard drives.
> >
> > I just set up and paid for an account with a
> > local ISP who confirmed they support BSD,
> > UNIX and Linux connections.
> >
> > I got all the information from them, domain
> > name, primary & secondary DNS, etc. and
> > configured kPPP.  They advised I use PAP
> > authentication.
> >
> > Everytime I dial, when kPPP connects, it
> > core dumps and I get the following error:
> >
> > >pppd[426]: Inf file /etc/ppp/options: unrecognized option 'o^Z'
> >
> > I've followed all the set up instructions in
> > the kPPP help section regarding PAP
> > configuration and nothing seems to work.
> >
> > I asked tech support at the ISP if I needed
> > to used "script-based" authentication and
> > he said no.  He said PAP should work.
> >
> > Can anybody help me get this fixed?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -r
> >
> >
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It's funny, this question has been asked four times in the last week.  
But if you're not subscribed to -questions, you would miss it.
Here are some:
http://www.freebsdmall.com/advocacy/images/
http://www.svaha.net/daemon/index.html
http://www.de.freebsd.org/de/gif/bsd/
the nomads link on the last one is pretty good.
	You can use the Gimp to change file formats and sizes and such. Just 
provide the right copyright notations.  The BSD daemon is overall 
copyright Kirk Mckusick.  www.mckusick.com

						Tim

On Monday January 22, 2001 17:22, you wrote:
> I just have burned a FreeBSD CD to install it, but is there somewhere
> I can find artwork to create my CD Label ?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
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At 14:53 22-01-01 +0100, you wrote:
>>>>>> "Roger" == Roger Merritt <mcrogerm@stjohn.ac.th> writes:
>
>    Roger> I've tried the commands mount /cdrom mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c
>    Roger> /cdrom mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
>
>    Roger> All with the same result: device busy.
>
>fstat | grep acd0 will give you the process that holds the cdrom, stop it
>and then mount the cdrom
>
>Eric Masson
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Thanks for the suggestion, but it doesn't help. No process is shown as
using the cdrom. I've tried iostat and pstat, too, without success.
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Make sure you have your AddType directive set properly in your
httpd.conf file.  For PHP3 it looks like,

AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3

I know it's slightly different for PHP4, but I can't remember the
exact syntax.

On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 04:37:19PM -0600, George.Giles@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu wrote:
> I have FreeBSD 4.2 with apache13 and mod_php4.
> 
> I have added AddModule and LoadModule for PHP4
> 
> I cannot get any php files to execute.
> 
> This configuiration runs fine on an identical machine except for it does
> not virtual host where the non- functional machine does.
> 
> All I should need are cgi-bin directives for each virtual host that wants
> to run php scripts?
> 
> cgi's run fine, but php's do not.
> 
> Please advise
> 
> 
> 
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Christoph Kukulies wrote:
> 
> Is there a PAM tutorial or a guideline how to setup PAM
> under FreeBSD? It seems some utilities/ports introduce
> /etc/pam.d which disables /etc/pam.conf. OTOH important
> files are then missing according to syslog:
> ...

There was a thread, just now, on -stable. Not an introductionary
one, merely a discussion. An interesting one, though.

PAM got introduced - if I can trust my faulty memory - for Linux,
say somewhere '97-ish. Try looking in that area of UNIX land. There's
bound to be much more material available 'overthere'.

And PAM's PAM so...

HTH,

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On Monday January 22, 2001 15:01, Jonathan Chen wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 02:45:17PM -0500, jimmy fix wrote:
> > basically i wanna change the window manager and put KDE so i can
> > configure ppp (its easier from there)
>
> Installing a KDE ppp configuration tool for Linux will *NOT* work for
> FreeBSD, since Linux configuration file locations are different
> enough from FreeBSD that it won't find anything to work against.

I didn't reallize that, but either way, kppp should get him a working 
script and then he could use that to put the right info in the right 
files.  You'll have to read the ppp primers, as I have a cable modem 
and don't worry about ppp anymore.

> Configuring PPP is usually as simple as editing /etc/ppp/ppp.conf,
> editing the "set device ...", "set phone ...", "set authname ..." and
> "set authkey ..." lines. And then running the ppp(1) program to see
> what happens.
>
> If you've got the ports system installed (and you've got Internet
> connectivity), you can build KDE by:

right, but if he doesn't have ppp working, that won't be so easy.
If you have an installation cd, kde should be on it.  From root type 
/stand/sysinstall to get back into the installation/config program use 
it to install the kde packages that are on the CD.  Or you can do it 
manually by cd'ing into the packages directory on the CD after mounting 
it.   Installing the package from cd-rom will work without an internet 
connection.

						Tim


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Julien Pham wrote:
> 
> And what are the differences between those two OS ?

Well, the long, outdated and grossly simplified story would be
that FreeBSD is iAPX 386 dedicated, NetBSD is portabilty focussed
and OpenBSD is security (not quite, but sorta) consious.

But like Cliff said, RTFM <g>.

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Hello all,

I seem to be having a problem compiling XFree86-4_5 from the ports
collection. It downloads and compiles OK, but partway through the linking
stage I get some errors that have to do with threading. I'm not sure why this
should be since I have another FreeBSD box that compiles it flawlessly...

Here is all the relevant info I can think of:

FreeBSD-4.2-STABLE (last make world Jan 21, 2001)
Current XFree86-4.0.1 (from binaries downloaded from xfree86.org)
KDE 2.0.1 (ports with relevant dependencies (qt, Mesa, etc.))
default make arguements are the defaults in /etc/defaults/make.conf plus I
added: -mpentiumpro -march=i686 -03

Here are the last few lines from make:

making all in programs/appres...
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../exports/lib cc -O3 -pipe -mpentiumpro -march=i686
-pthread  -ansi -pedantic -Dasm=__asm -Wall -Wpointer-arith     -I../..
-I../../exports/include  -DCSRG_BASED   -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO    -c
appres.c
rm -f appres
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../exports/lib cc -o appres  -ansi -pedantic -Dasm=__asm
-Wall -Wpointer-arith     -L../../exports/lib appres.o -lXt -lSM -lICE -lXext
-lX11 -L/usr/X11R6/lib     -Wl,-rpath,/usr/X11R6/lib
../../exports/lib/libXt.so: undefined reference to `pthread_cond_signal'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXThrStub.so.6: undefined reference to `_Xthr_zero_stub_'
../../exports/lib/libX11.so: undefined reference to `pthread_cond_broadcast'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXThrStub.so.6: undefined reference to `_Xthr_self_stub_'
../../exports/lib/libXt.so: undefined reference to `pthread_cond_init'
../../exports/lib/libXt.so: undefined reference to `pthread_mutex_unlock'
../../exports/lib/libXt.so: undefined reference to `pthread_self'
../../exports/lib/libXt.so: undefined reference to `pthread_mutex_destroy'
../../exports/lib/libXt.so: undefined reference to `pthread_mutex_lock'
../../exports/lib/libXt.so: undefined reference to `pthread_cond_wait'
../../exports/lib/libXt.so: undefined reference to `pthread_cond_destroy'
../../exports/lib/libXt.so: undefined reference to `pthread_mutex_init'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/appres.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4.

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CMI8330 audio adapter cmedia 
what i shall to do to make it work ?????
PLEASE HELP 
p.s. on FreeBSD 4.0 RELEASE
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parthasarathi biswas wrote:
> 
> ...
> I tried for second option of copying the tgz file from
> the CD which is nslint-2.0.1.tgz.I extracted the file
> in the same directory and then did
> #make install but it always gets to the freebsd site
> to download it and says could not find the .tgz file
> in the system.Pls explain how do I install nslint from
> the CD where I have nslint-2.0.1.tgz file.This file is
> in the /cdrom/packages/net directory.

I don't think it's the FreeBSD site that's to blame. Then again,
you never can know, do you?

Are you sure you entered "#make install"? I'm asking because the
#-character denotes a comment.

If you have the CD just 'cp' (or copy) the file into the
/usr/ports/distfiles directory. Then go to the actual ports
directory and enter 'make install'. That way it won't have to
fetch the file.

Roelof

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Matthew West wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 05:04:20PM +0200, Adriaan Rossouw wrote:
> > I was wondering if someone knew where i could find some large images
> > of the BSD daemon, I am looking to use it for wallpapers etc. and I
> > only seem to be finding small pictures.
> 
> http://www.freebsdmall.com/advocacy/images/
> and
> http://www.de.freebsd.org/de/gif/bsd/
> (the ones at the bottom of the "BSD Nomads" make very nice desktop
> backgrounds)


Nah. They're *too* big for my itty bitty 1792x1344 desktop.

Roelof

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>>>>> Ian Cartwright writes:

 > Hello all,

 > I seem to be having a problem compiling XFree86-4_5 from the ports
 > collection. It downloads and compiles OK, but partway through the linking
 > stage I get some errors that have to do with threading. I'm not sure why this
 > should be since I have another FreeBSD box that compiles it flawlessly...

 > Here is all the relevant info I can think of:

 > FreeBSD-4.2-STABLE (last make world Jan 21, 2001)
 > Current XFree86-4.0.1 (from binaries downloaded from xfree86.org)
 > KDE 2.0.1 (ports with relevant dependencies (qt, Mesa, etc.))
 > default make arguements are the defaults in /etc/defaults/make.conf plus I
 > added: -mpentiumpro -march=i686 -03

This is a problem with one of the flags you have added in
make.conf. Try to use -O2 or -O instead of -O3 first.

Jean-Marc

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First, upgrade to 4.2-STABLE. It seems to me that the sound driver code
is constantly evolving.
Second, follow the instructions here:
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/sound.html

Now, after rebooting your machine check the dmesg output to see if the
card is identified. If it's not, or if the remaining steps do not get it
working, it's probably not supported yet. In that case you have a few
more options:
1. Start hacking kernel code yourself and see if you can get a driver
working.
2. See if there's an existing development effort to make that card work.
Somebody might have patches. I would suggest searching yahoo for
"+CMI8330 +freebsd" and other such research. There may be drivers not
officially supported out there somewhere.
3. Get a sound card that is supported.

Good luck,
Bill

Charlie Root wrote:
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> CMI8330 audio adapter cmedia
> what i shall to do to make it work ?????
> PLEASE HELP
> p.s. on FreeBSD 4.0 RELEASE
> hatred@europe.com


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On 22 Jan 01 at 10:29, Andresen,Jason R. wrote:

>Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>> 
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ken
>> >Bolingbroke
>> >
>> >I've been running a mail/web/dns server as well as a NAT gateway on a
>> >386dx40 with 8meg RAM for several years.  One caveat is that
>> >you need at
>> >least 12 meg RAM to run sysinstall on more recent versions of
>> >FreeBSD, but
>> >I could do a buildworld on a faster machine, then installworld
>> >on the '386
>> >just fine.  It's recently been retired from those duties and
>> >now serves as
>> >just a fax server, but it's always done the job.  DNS, mail
>> >for a handful
>> >of users, and a low traffic web site isn't all that demanding.
>> > After all,
>> >this machine was state-of-the art 10 years ago. :-)
>> >
>> >Ken
>> >
>> 
>> Even better, these older 386's and 486/33's don't need a CPU fan,
>> so one less thing to get cockeyed.  And I'd trust a system that
>> has lasted 10 years and was still going strong more than a
>> system with only 6 months on it.
>
>The only major problem we've run into is that those 10 year old
>HDs tend to die.  Still, all you need to do is upgrade a drive
>in one of your current machines and donate the old small one to
>the firewall machine.  This has kept our 486sx33 with 8MB of ram
>alive for much longer than the manufacturer intended. 

How do you guys get around the BIOS limitation regarding HDDs larger than 
.5Gig on these venerable machines?

-duke
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Hello all, 
I need to force a 3COM 905 into 10Mb/HD mode.  I have tried the following:
"ifconfig xl0 -media 10baseT/UTP -mediaopt half-duplex" and it keeps
sticking the interface at 100Mb/FD with an error saying that "not a valid
media" :/ I had seen mention of a util on FBSD's site that said it would
make it go into this mode, but it seems silly that I can't force it into
that mode when Windows can do it! Any help is appriciated, 
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I am using an onstream 30gb tape drive (at least, i'm trying to). the machine
is an old 486 running 3.4 (because 4.x doesn't have matcd support). i 
compiled a custom kernel with ATAPI and wst0 (the name for my tape drive).
The drive gets detected on boot, etc. However, whenever I do a certain 
operation on the drive (like a dump, tar, or even a cat /dev/rwst0), the
machine freezes with a kernel panic:
Fatal Trap 18: integer divide fault while in kernel mode
there are a few things which make the problem more complex - first, an op
like "mt -f /dev/rwst0 fsf 1" doesn't panic. second, there is no /dev/wst0
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ssh2 provides sftp, and there is a windows sftp client available at 
ssh.com, and elsewhere as well i'm sure.

At 06:32 PM 1/22/2001, you wrote:
>Now that I've wrapped pop3 and IMAP in SSL, my last unsecure service
>is FTP.  What are people using as a replacement to transfer files?
>I am particularly interested in a method that could be recommended 
>to
>my Windows users (i.e. need some graphical client for Win).
>
>Any ideas very welcome,
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> ifconfig xl0 media 10baseT/UTP
> ifconfig xl0 mediaopt half-duplex
> Try em separately... why do ya wanna do that out of curiousity ? ;)
Got it to work as long as I don't put the - in!  weird :/  Anyway, it has
to do with the crap switch that I am trying something out on.  If any of
the connections are 100Mbps, it craps out (even though it is a 10/100
switch!)  lol, that's what I get for buying cheap for a experiment ;)
Sabre



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David Kelly writes:
> [--snip--]
>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:54:58PM -0600, David Kelly wrote:

>>> The majority of Linux users are also Windows users and wear
>>> Microsoft-colored glasses no matter how much they badmouth
>>> Microsoft. They continue to build their new land with a
>>> Microsoft tint. This may not be a bad thing, only time will tell.
>
> What I mean by "Microsoft tint" is prefaced by "Microsoft-colored
> glasses". Users who know only of Windows bitch when an OS doesn't do
> everything the way they are used to. When configuring a foreign system,
> or writing code for it, they design the user interface after the
> Microsoft model. And use Microsoft terminology to document. And then
> complain about how much they hate Microsoft.

The GNOME+Gtk desktop looks like OS/2 and Motif. NeXT-like themes
are very common. The usual title bar buttons are actually useful,
and hey, Motif was quite a Windows 3.1 rip-off anyway.

It is stupid to invent a gratuitously incompatible user interface.

> A small thing but last time I sat at a Linux keyboard "dir" did
> the DOS thing, by default.

ROTFL!!!

How did you discover this? Perhaps you typed "dir" at the prompt?
Fortunately, the command was there when you needed it. :-)

I'm sure this command is really detrimental to the system. Heh.



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Alejandro A. Ramirez <ales@megared.net.mx> types:
> See :
> http://www.freebsd.org/java/
> 
> Its in the ports colection now (ntive version of 1.2).

Just curious - does this version have the CORBA support classes
builtin, and if so do you know how well they work?

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Steve M <slavik944@metconnect.com> types:
> On Mon, 22 January 2001, Mike Meyer wrote:
> To that I would respond by saying the following.
> Every chracter that I type on my Linux box my hard
> drive on the computer has to 'grind' like as if it's etching
> another character on it's medium.  
> Since Linux touts to be one of the best OS's wouldnt
> it stand to reason that I should expect more from it?
> Or atleast not something that I would expect an NT 
> machine to do?

Depends on what you're using to edit text. If you're using an ASCII
editor and getting that behavior, then something is seriously wrong
somewhere. If you're using a WYSIWIG editor with a scalable font in
nonnative format and some screwy point size (so that it has to scale
every character), then it may just be poor design in the text editing
system.

Such things can be solved, but this isn't the place.

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Bill Moran wrote:

> I have some weirdness occurring with a couple of SGI workstations. The
> server is FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE running as an NFS server.
> 
> My /etc/exports file consists of one line:
> /data/public -mapall=nobody:nobody
> (machine is behind a firewall, so anyone who can connect is trusted)
> 
> However, when a user logs in as root to the SGI station, he can
> read/write all over the FreeBSD server with no problems, all files are
> created as root:wheel (why group wheel?)
> But if a normal user logs in to the SGI station, he can read but not
> write the NFS export on FreeBSD. It seems like a permissions problem to
> me.

This sounds similar to a problem I had recently. When I would created
files on an NFS-mounted filesystem, they would end up with the wrong
owner and group. It turned out that I had users on both machines with
the same User and group ID, but different names. For example - machine A
has a user foo (1002:1002) while machine B has a user bar (1002:1002)
and a user foo (1003:1003).  When I was logged into A as foo, I would
NFS-mount B but my files on B had owner/group bar instead of foo. This
was with both machines running FreeBSD, BTW. 

Once I vipw'd things so the users/groups/usernames were consistent
between the two machines, the problem went away.

HTH.

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Chris Hill wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Bill Moran wrote:
> 
> > I have some weirdness occurring with a couple of SGI workstations. The
> > server is FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE running as an NFS server.
> >
> > My /etc/exports file consists of one line:
> > /data/public -mapall=nobody:nobody
> > (machine is behind a firewall, so anyone who can connect is trusted)
> >
> > However, when a user logs in as root to the SGI station, he can
> > read/write all over the FreeBSD server with no problems, all files are
> > created as root:wheel (why group wheel?)
> > But if a normal user logs in to the SGI station, he can read but not
> > write the NFS export on FreeBSD. It seems like a permissions problem to
> > me.
> 
> This sounds similar to a problem I had recently. When I would created
> files on an NFS-mounted filesystem, they would end up with the wrong
> owner and group. It turned out that I had users on both machines with
> the same User and group ID, but different names. For example - machine A
> has a user foo (1002:1002) while machine B has a user bar (1002:1002)
> and a user foo (1003:1003).  When I was logged into A as foo, I would
> NFS-mount B but my files on B had owner/group bar instead of foo. This
> was with both machines running FreeBSD, BTW.
> 
> Once I vipw'd things so the users/groups/usernames were consistent
> between the two machines, the problem went away.

Interesting (and something to remember in the future) but in my case the
-mapall directive should be forcing all NFS users to be creating files a
nobody:nobody, but it doesn't seem to be doing that. Not even for
root@SGI (who is the only user able to write to the NFS share at all)

Hmmm ...

-Bill


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Issue:
I had a system freeze this week, and upon boot the next day, found:

/dev/ad4s1f: CANNOT READ: BLK 16
/dev/ad4s1f: NOT LABELED AS A BSD FILE SYSTEM (unused)

/dev/ad4s1f is /usr including /usr/home


Questions/concerns:
I'd like to pin down the cause of the freeze.

I'd like to contribute data regarding the freeze, if it will benefit
future software development.

I plan to preserve the DTLA disk, as I'd like to recover the data if
possible, but I'm not sure how to recover.  Can you offer any guidance
or url's regarding data recovery from that filesystem?

I plan to build a new desktop system on same (new) hardware, with a
new pair of disks using software raid-1.  I've been following the
RAID-5 discussion on -stable list, but I'm still back at January 5th,
and trying to catch up, and not yet knowledgeable regarding RAID.  I'm
currently reading through Greg Lehey's vinum docs.

Is software or hardware RAID preferred?


Details:
As of the first week of January, I was running the following:
Asus P5A
AMD K6-III/400
128MB PC-100
IBM DTLA 307030
pci audio
cd-rom
running 4-STABLE from Dec 20, 2000.

Some time between the 1st and the 11th, I enabled softupdates on /usr

On the 15th, I bought:
Asus A7V
AMD Athlon Thunderbird 800
128MB PC-133
Cooler Master fan

I completed the upgrade on Friday the 19th, after recompiling the
kernel with I686_CPU support, and adjusting /etc/fstab .
I do not overclock.

I log to my fileserver, and logs from that evening show:

Jan 19 22:01:45 daemon sudo:    randy : TTY=ttyp3 ; PWD=/usr/ports/graphics/xanim ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/make install
Jan 19 22:56:29 daemon sudo:    randy : TTY=ttyp3 ; PWD=/usr/ports/graphics/xanim ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/make clean
Jan 19 22:57:22 daemon sudo:    randy : TTY=ttyp3 ; PWD=/usr/ports ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/make update
Jan 19 22:57:35 daemon /kernel: dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold
Jan 19 22:57:57 daemon last message repeated 2 times
Jan 19 22:57:58 daemon /kernel: dc0: TX underrun -- using store and forward mode

I think the system froze at this point.  It was the last log message
from "daemon".  The desktop and mouse froze, and I could not ssh to
daemon from another system on my network.

I was running setiathome, tkseti, tkined, picmonger, `make update` in
ports, xwindows, netscape, xmms, ntpd, healthd, mrtg, gnome-terminals,
and probably other stuff as well.  I believe I had about 8GB free on /usr .

In my logs, I found a previous TX underrun:
Jan 11 03:03:04 daemon /kernel: dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold

I can submit dmesg output upon request, and I'll be recovering
/var/log/messages later this week.

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On Monday, 22 January 2001 at  1:05:17 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

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> Ken Bolingbroke wrote:
>>
>> I've been running a mail/web/dns server as well as a NAT gateway on
>> a 386dx40 with 8meg RAM for several years.  One caveat is that you
>> need at least 12 meg RAM to run sysinstall on more recent versions
>> of FreeBSD, but I could do a buildworld on a faster machine, then
>> installworld on the '386 just fine.  It's recently been retired
>> from those duties and now serves as just a fax server, but it's
>> always done the job.  DNS, mail for a handful of users, and a low
>> traffic web site isn't all that demanding.  After all, this machine
>> was state-of-the art 10 years ago. :-)
>
> Even better, these older 386's and 486/33's don't need a CPU fan,
> so one less thing to get cockeyed.  And I'd trust a system that
> has lasted 10 years and was still going strong more than a
> system with only 6 months on it.

That might apply to the silicon, but it definitely doesn't apply to
moving parts such as fans (there are still fans in most power
supplies) and disk drives.

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On Monday, 22 January 2001 at 17:43:32 -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
> On 22 Jan 01 at 10:29, Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
>> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>>
>>> Even better, these older 386's and 486/33's don't need a CPU fan,
>>> so one less thing to get cockeyed.  And I'd trust a system that
>>> has lasted 10 years and was still going strong more than a
>>> system with only 6 months on it.
>>
>> The only major problem we've run into is that those 10 year old
>> HDs tend to die.  Still, all you need to do is upgrade a drive
>> in one of your current machines and donate the old small one to
>> the firewall machine.  This has kept our 486sx33 with 8MB of ram
>> alive for much longer than the manufacturer intended.
>
> How do you guys get around the BIOS limitation regarding HDDs larger
> than .5Gig on these venerable machines?

Boot from the first 504 MB.

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Hello 

I am adding a set the new system calls to FreeBSD kernel, 
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is a little hard  when there is some problem.

Is there anybody knows some reference (URL), tools or some help 
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That is some suggestions, examples, etc., different to 
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I have been using vi for a very long time and often like to run it inside
of a screen session, but lately I have had display problems.  In F3.4 I
was fine and I have not changed my SSH client or any of my shell
settings.  I just now started to have problems.

I am in a session with vi editing a perl script and as I arrow down the
cursor actually goes up and the entire screen is not displayed.  It
appears that the first several lines will display while the lower part
just goes blank.  I have to continually hit control-l to get the screen to
refresh.

I am unsure if this is an issue with vi or screen but it seems to happen
with or without screen.  It is hard to test it as it seems  
sporadic.

I am wondering if anyone else is having this problem.  Can it be
corrected?  Am I doing something wrong? 

Before I put this new FreeBSD server up in place of my old server I was
sure to sync and run make world so I should have a very solid version in
place.

Any help is appreciated.

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> At 14:53 22-01-01 +0100, you wrote:
> >>>>>> "Roger" == Roger Merritt <mcrogerm@stjohn.ac.th> writes:
> >
> >    Roger> I've tried the commands mount /cdrom mount -t cd9660
/dev/acd0c
> >    Roger> /cdrom mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
> >
> >    Roger> All with the same result: device busy.
> >
> >fstat | grep acd0 will give you the process that holds the cdrom, stop it
> >and then mount the cdrom
> >
> >Eric Masson
> >--
> >Progress (n) : What led from smart users in front of dumb terminals to
> >dumb users in front of smart terminals.
> >
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, but it doesn't help. No process is shown as
> using the cdrom. I've tried iostat and pstat, too, without success.

This may seem silly (and I haven't seen the whole thread), but are you sure
that /dev/acd0c isn't mounted?  If it is and the process that automounted it
has died (/stand/sysinstall is known to do this) then try a umount -f
/dev/acd0c, and then try mounting the CD again.

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On Monday, 22 January 2001 at  1:01:47 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> Steve M wrote:
>>
>> The *nix OS' lack sufficient documentation for the average
>> user.  I'm a little above the average user so I've
>
> What an insult!  What about my book that was just released?  And
> what about Greg's book "The Complete FreeBSD" that has been out
> longer than that?  What is lacking in those efforts?  And, the
> bookstores are stuffed with Linux books!!

I wouldn't call that an insult.  First, your book has really *only*
*just* hit the bookstands, and secondly there's the little word
"sufficient" in the original.  That's pretty much an objective
viewpoint.  It would be better to ask what's missing.

> Your not going to get a manual, bound and all that, for the $30
> distribution cost of the CDs!  For that matter you don't get a
> manual with Microsoft's products either unless you spend $150 for
> the Resourse Kit
>
>> I'm not a geek nor do I profess to be one, I just dont have the
>> time to putz around with a minor thing as compared to MS's way of
>> doing something.
>
> If you took someone who has never seen, never touched a computer
> before and sat them in front of a FreeBSD system, I wager it would
> take just as long to train them to use it as to train them to
> use Windows.  MS's way only seems easier because you learned it
> first.

Indeed.  That's my problem with your book :-)  You assume that people
already know Microsoft.

Greg
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> I have a qpopper, sendmail, and BIND running on my
> home machine.  I am wondering what the best way to
> redirect all mail that gets sent to root to get sent to my
> other user which is cwalker.  I am not sure but, setting
> up an alias in the alias file doesnt seem like a good idea.
> If it is let me know.

It's a great idea.  Just add the line "root: cwalker" to /etc/aliases and
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On Monday 22 January 2001 19:44, Caleb Walker wrote:

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m
> wondering what the best way to redirect all mail that gets sent to root=
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me
> know.

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> Thanks,
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Just my 2 cents worth - I send this from within Windows 2000 and have
two other boxes getting set up with FreeBSD and I have Mr. Lehey's book
as well - IMHO both the book and FBSD are probably the best documented
OSs' around - I could take a complete computer novice and between the
man pages and "The Complete FreeBSD"  have them able to do most of the
basic operations within several hours to no more than several days (I
know as I have done just that) and not because I am so great but simply
because of the documentation that is available. Only Solaris seems to be
as well documented, that is have documentaion easy to get at and easy to
use. It makes me wonder what is supposed to be "sufficient" leaving out
of course hand-holding and a blanket to clutch-No insults intended but
did "Steve M" really get around to using what already exists?
Jeff Phillips

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> On Monday, 22 January 2001 at  1:01:47 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> > Steve M wrote:
> >>
> >> The *nix OS' lack sufficient documentation for the average
> >> user.  I'm a little above the average user so I've
> >
> > What an insult!  What about my book that was just released?  And
> > what about Greg's book "The Complete FreeBSD" that has been out
> > longer than that?  What is lacking in those efforts?  And, the
> > bookstores are stuffed with Linux books!!
>
> I wouldn't call that an insult.  First, your book has really *only*
> *just* hit the bookstands, and secondly there's the little word
> "sufficient" in the original.  That's pretty much an objective
> viewpoint.  It would be better to ask what's missing.
>
> > Your not going to get a manual, bound and all that, for the $30
> > distribution cost of the CDs!  For that matter you don't get a
> > manual with Microsoft's products either unless you spend $150 for
> > the Resourse Kit
> >
> >> I'm not a geek nor do I profess to be one, I just dont have the
> >> time to putz around with a minor thing as compared to MS's way of
> >> doing something.
> >
> > If you took someone who has never seen, never touched a computer
> > before and sat them in front of a FreeBSD system, I wager it would
> > take just as long to train them to use it as to train them to
> > use Windows.  MS's way only seems easier because you learned it
> > first.
>
> Indeed.  That's my problem with your book :-)  You assume that people
> already know Microsoft.
>
> Greg
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I hate to be snippy here, but all you have to do is *read* the whole 
front page of the website at www.freebsd.org   !    Maybe add in the 
fact that installing also includes downloading.
	How much easier can it be made?  Do some reading, follow the links and 
the instructions there, and you will be rewarded with a powerful 
system.  The handbook and the FAQ will be your friend, as is the help 
info during the install process itself.  There is an amazing amount of 
material at the website to help you out.  If you can't understand what 
you read, come back here and ask questions of the list, but you will 
get the best response if you read first.

						Tim

On Monday January 22, 2001 23:14, MonsterATVS wrote:

> > I am trying to downlaod FreeBSD from the internet off of your site. 
> I see where you can order it and pay up to 180 dollars for it.....
> but I can't seem to find a link where you can download from the
> net........ if you can point me in the right direction, it would be
> apperciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Justin
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Are you looking for something more than:
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kerneldebug.html
I don't know if there is any.  There are a fair amount of undocumented 
system calls in the FreeBSD kernel as I understand it.  Chapter 22 of 
the handbook may be helpful too.
	There may also be some articles in say daemonnews or something, but 
basically the source code is going to be what you'll have to go on.

						Tim

On Monday January 22, 2001 22:16, Yonny Cardenas B. wrote:
> Hello
>
> I am adding a set the new system calls to FreeBSD kernel,
> but to compile and to test new source code within the kernel
> is a little hard  when there is some problem.
>
> Is there anybody knows some reference (URL), tools or some help
> to programming and debugging in the kernel FreeBSD?
> That is some suggestions, examples, etc., different to
> kernel?s source code of course.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Hey everyone.

I have just upgraded from 4.0-RELEASE to 4.2-RELEASE via make installworld,
and it it now done, but now I can getting these types of errors, why is
this?

"bash-2.03$ w
10:26PM  up 31 days,  3:14, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.06
USER             TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
w: proc size mismatch (51156 total, 1056 chunks): Undefined error: 0"

and

"bash-2.03$ top
kvm_open: proc size mismatch (54288 total, 1056 chunks)
top: Out of memory."

I haven't recompiled the kernel yet, because I was told I could wait for
that.  Does anyone have an idea why this is doing this?  If a restart is in
order - would it be safe (not at the server site)

Thanks in advance!

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> Hey everyone.
>
> I have just upgraded from 4.0-RELEASE to 4.2-RELEASE via make
installworld,
> and it it now done, but now I can getting these types of errors, why is
> this?

Did you build and install a new kernel?  This is something that isn't done
by installworld.

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On Monday January 22, 2001 23:29, Brent wrote:
> Hey everyone.

Hey back :-)

> I have just upgraded from 4.0-RELEASE to 4.2-RELEASE via make
> installworld, and it it now done, but now I can getting these types
> of errors, why is this?
>
> "bash-2.03$ w
> 10:26PM  up 31 days,  3:14, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.06
> USER             TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
> w: proc size mismatch (51156 total, 1056 chunks): Undefined error: 0"
>
> and
>
> "bash-2.03$ top
> kvm_open: proc size mismatch (54288 total, 1056 chunks)
> top: Out of memory."
>
> I haven't recompiled the kernel yet, 

I think you've answered your question.
Rebuild your kernel and the errors should go away.

> because I was told I could wait for that.  

Yeah, you can wait, just not very long.  And you can't do much in the 
in-between  :)
You can wait in the sense that they (build world and 
buildkernel/installkernel) don't have to be done at the exact same 
time, but they do both have to be done.  
	This is one of the advantages of the BSD development style, that the 
kernel is developed with the rest to work tightly together.

> Does anyone have an idea why this is doing this?  If a
> restart is in order - would it be safe (not at the server site)

I would guess you would want to build the kernel first?  I just follow 
what it says in the handbook chapter 19.4 to the letter.

					Tim


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yeh, it's me again.  =)  i'm giving up on bellsouth.  their tech/sales team
is rude and ignorant.  i told em exactly what modem i wanted because i knew
it was offered by them.  they refused to let me have that one.  so screw
them.  there's another isp offering dsl using the efficient networks 5260. 
http://www.efficient.com/products/modeth.html  .... this is the
modem/router offered with their linux deal.  any opnions or advice about
this modem.  This isp actually has decent tech support.  i've been
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Hello,

I'm currently using FreeBSD CURRENT 5.0. 
I've installed xmms-1.2.4 from /usr/ports/audio/xmms.
And I manually compilled and installed avi-xmms-1.2.1.
All related libraries such as GTK, SDL, Avifile were installed successfully. 
But the problem is I can't see libavixmms in xmms Preference menu.

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  809920   1/23 00:56 libavixmms.a
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     920   1/23 00:56 libavixmms.la

There two files are in /usr/X11R6/lib/xmms/Input

All other files are *.so in that directory, what's the problem?

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I think I've got a nice one at http://www.digitaldaemon.com/
It's copyrighted though...

Jan



Roelof Osinga wrote:

> Matthew West wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 05:04:20PM +0200, Adriaan Rossouw wrote:
>> 
>>> I was wondering if someone knew where i could find some large images
>>> of the BSD daemon, I am looking to use it for wallpapers etc. and I
>>> only seem to be finding small pictures.
>> 
>> http://www.freebsdmall.com/advocacy/images/
>> and
>> http://www.de.freebsd.org/de/gif/bsd/
>> (the ones at the bottom of the "BSD Nomads" make very nice desktop
>> backgrounds)
> 
> 
> 
> Nah. They're *too* big for my itty bitty 1792x1344 desktop.
> 
> Roelof
> 
> PS my support group says I've got to get over it
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<html><head></head><body>I think I've got a nice one at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.digitaldaemon.com/">http://www.digitaldaemon.com/</a><br>
It's copyrighted though...<br>
<br>
Jan<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Roelof Osinga wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:3A6CD993.12B9C6F0@nisser.com"><pre wrap="">Matthew West wrote:<br></pre>
  <blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 05:04:20PM +0200, Adriaan Rossouw wrote:<br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">I was wondering if someone knew where i could find some large images<br>of the BSD daemon, I am looking to use it for wallpapers etc. and I<br>only seem to be finding small pictures.<br></pre></blockquote><pre wrap=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freebsdmall.com/advocacy/images/">http://www.freebsdmall.com/advocacy/images/</a><br>and<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.de.freebsd.org/de/gif/bsd/">http://www.de.freebsd.org/de/gif/bsd/</a><br>(the ones at the bottom of the "BSD Nomads" make very nice desktop<br>backgrounds)<br></pre></blockquote>
      <pre wrap=""><!----><br><br>Nah. They're *too* big for my itty bitty 1792x1344 desktop.<br><br>Roelof<br><br>PS my support group says I've got to get over it<br><br></pre>
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Hi All,
I try to run Vmware2 on a NEC PC98 running FreeBSD(98) 4.2 RELEASE. I
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Greg Lehey [mailto:grog@lemis.com]
>Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 7:23 PM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: 'Steve M'; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs linux (some venting)
>
>
>On Monday, 22 January 2001 at  1:01:47 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>> Steve M wrote:
>>>
>>> The *nix OS' lack sufficient documentation for the average
>>> user.  I'm a little above the average user so I've
>>
>> What an insult!  What about my book that was just released?  And
>
>I wouldn't call that an insult.  First, your book has really *only*
>*just* hit the bookstands, and secondly there's the little word
>"sufficient" in the original.  That's pretty much an objective
>viewpoint.  It would be better to ask what's missing.
>

Part of that was partly tongue-in-cheek, partly flame bait, I'll
admit.  I was trying to make a point with a bit of humor that
his definition of sufficient documentation was what you might call
extremely high.  Most UNIX's are documented these days with books
aimed at specific programs anyway.  The situation is similar with
the Microsoft products, though, because once again the books out
there mostly cover different Windows applications, or the Windows UI,
not the internals or good admining on Windows.

>>
>> If you took someone who has never seen, never touched a computer
>> before and sat them in front of a FreeBSD system, I wager it would
>> take just as long to train them to use it as to train them to
>> use Windows.  MS's way only seems easier because you learned it
>> first.
>
>Indeed.  That's my problem with your book :-)  You assume that people
>already know Microsoft.
>

I make the assumption in my book that due to various political and religious
preferences by CEO's and such that all think they know how to run an IT
department better than the IT manager, that the question of using Microsoft
on the desktop is a non-issue.  It's going to be rammed down your throat
whether you like it or not, along with Office and all their other creepy
programs.  Fortunately, those bigots that insist on Windows on the desktop
generally don't know or care what the back end server OS is, which is where
the IT manager has some discretion.  So, if your going to be the IT manager
of most organizations, your opportunity to use FreeBSD is going to start
with the servers.  Since you need to work your way up to being the admin,
your going to have to start by learning Windows on the desktop.

Ultimately it comes down to a credibility issue.  UNIX people think nothing
of giving no credibility to the Windows bigots because the Windows bigots
don't understand or know UNIX.  But, when roles are reversed, the UNIX
bigots don't understand why the Windows bigots don't give them any
credibility.

If you make a conscious decision to be a UNIX bigot, as I did, no Windows
bigot is ever going to give you any credibility when you advocate FreeBSD or
other UNIX, unless you know Windows better than they do.  You can be a PhD
making $250K a year working for Sun, who has a history in UNIX going back 30
years, and a pedegree as long as my arm, but if you don't understand how to
administer a Windows network, or how to load Windows, then none of that is
going to matter to the average business owner that has been raised on a
Microsoft diet.  The second it becomes obvious that you don't know Microsoft
OS then they are going to stop listening.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com




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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 22 22: 9:16 2001
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I have been a subscriber to FreeBSD since the 2.X versions. I have
recently run into problems with trying to do a fresh install of 4.2.
Begining with 4.1 the preconfigured window managers (I prefer fvwm2) have
been very poor. Now with 4.2 and XFree86 4.01 I cannot even get a working
installation of X.

There are no obvious errors during the install but the XF86Setup doesn't
work. I cannot configure my mouse the A command does nothing. The
resulting xf86config aborts because of font problems.

I just low level formatted my drive and did a fresh install of 4.1 with
XFree86 3.36 and it installed without a problem.

motherboard Intel VX440 ppro 200 with over drive to 333.
Matrox Millenium I 8mb
Adaptec 2940AU
Intel Pro100b
Creative Lsbs sound blaster.
Toshiba Atapi cdrom
101 keyboard
Logitech 3 button ps2

I am concerned that not enough time is being spent on the Xfree86 software
install or the supplied window manager configurations.

I did try, under the 4.2 install, the port for Xfree86-4.0.1 and
although the make and install seemed okay, Xfree would not run. It
complained about multiple configuration files missing. So while 4.2
installs as text based, I am unable to get X running.

Any suggestions would be appreciated

Thank you,

peter



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Hello,

I've added 

device          pci
device          pcm

in kernel configuration file. 

skyul /dev  # sh MAKEDEV snd0
skyul /dev  % cat /dev/sndstat 
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jan 23 2001 02:30:20
Installed devices:
pcm0: <Yamaha DS-1E (YMF744)> at memory 0xea000000 irq 10 (4p/2r channels duplex)

Everything went well, but I can't hear the sound.
What's the problem here?

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I previously wrote to the email list about my problems with NAT
and my firewall rules... in a nutshell NAT doesnt' work =)

The freeBSD 4.2-Stable box can reach the internet, and is running
sshd and proftd with no problems.

However, when I connect one of my internal machines to the
internal interfaces on the server, the internet on those
clients doesn't function.

TO provide more useful logs of `ipfw show`, I zero'd it out first
with `ipfw zero`, then I did a simple request to load up a webpage
in IE 5.5 on the client machine hooked up to my internal interface.

External Interface = dc0
Internal interfaces = fxp0 and fxp1
Connected client onto fxp1 and tried to loadup up yahoo.com
------------------

00100  0    0 allow ip from any to any via lo0
00200  0    0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
00300 28 3780 divert 8668 ip from any to any via dc0
00400  0    0 deny ip from 192.168.0.0/24 to any in recv dc0
00500  0    0 deny ip from 209.53.0.0/18 to any in recv fxp0
00600  0    0 deny ip from 209.53.0.0/18 to any in recv fxp1
00700  0    0 deny ip from 192.168.0.0/16 to any in recv dc0
00800  0    0 deny ip from 172.16.0.0/12 to any in recv dc0
00900  0    0 deny ip from 224.0.0.0/4 to any
01000  0    0 deny ip from 10.0.0.0/8 to any in recv dc0
01100 14  812 allow ip from any to any out xmit dc0
01200  0    0 allow ip from any to any via fxp0
01300 14  812 allow ip from any to any via fxp1
01400  0    0 allow tcp from any to any in recv dc0 established
01500  0    0 allow tcp from 142.58.101.25 to 209.53.60.139 2626 setup
01600  0    0 allow tcp from 142.58.107.12 to 209.53.60.139 2626 setup
01700  0    0 allow log logamount 100 tcp from 142.58.101.25 to
209.53.60.139 2627 in recv dc0 setup
01800  0    0 allow log logamount 100 tcp from 142.58.107.12 to
209.53.60.139 2627 in recv dc0 setup
01900  0    0 allow log logamount 100 tcp from 24.71.46.74 to
209.53.60.139 2627 in recv dc0 setup
02000  0    0 allow log logamount 100 tcp from 209.53.63.29 to
209.53.60.139 2627 in recv dc0 setup
02100  0    0 allow log logamount 100 tcp from 24.113.38.121 to
209.53.60.139 2627 in recv dc0 setup
02200  0    0 allow tcp from any to 209.53.60.139 80 setup
02300  0    0 allow tcp from any to 209.53.60.139 25 setup
02400  0    0 allow tcp from 142.58.101.25 to 209.53.60.139 110 setup
02500  0    0 allow tcp from 24.113.77.121 to 209.53.60.139 110 setup
02600  0    0 allow udp from any 123 to 209.53.60.139
02700  0    0 allow udp from 209.53.60.139 to any 123
02800  0    0 allow udp from any to 209.53.60.139 53
02900  0    0 allow udp from 209.53.60.139 53 to any
03000  0    0 allow tcp from any to 209.53.60.139 53 setup
03100  0    0 allow tcp from any to 209.53.60.139 194
03200  0    0 allow udp from any to 209.53.60.139 194
03300  0    0 deny log logamount 100 tcp from any to any in recv dc0 setup
03400  0    0 allow icmp from any to any via fxp0
03500  0    0 allow icmp from any to any via fxp1
03600  0    0 allow icmp from any to any in recv dc0 icmptype 0
03700  0    0 allow icmp from any to any out xmit dc0 icmptype 8
03800  0    0 allow udp from any to any 33434-33523 out xmit dc0
03900  0    0 allow icmp from any to any via dc0 icmptype 3,4,11,12
65532 14 2968 deny udp from any to any
65533  0    0 deny icmp from any to any
65534  0    0 deny log logamount 100 ip from any to any
65535  0    0 deny ip from any to any



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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 04:20:59AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

[80+ line rant deleted.]

Good luck with the new medication. Looks like you still need to work
on the dosage.
-- 
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 22 22:36: 7 2001
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I have noticed that no one realy makes cool FreeBSD wallpapers.... I 
have a few that i made and I was wondering if there was a site for me to 
post them on?

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pstern (pstern@ptialaska.net) wrote:

> I have been a subscriber to FreeBSD since the 2.X versions. I have
> recently run into problems with trying to do a fresh install of 4.2.
> Begining with 4.1 the preconfigured window managers (I prefer fvwm2) have
> been very poor. Now with 4.2 and XFree86 4.01 I cannot even get a working
> installation of X.
> 
> There are no obvious errors during the install but the XF86Setup doesn't
> work. I cannot configure my mouse the A command does nothing. The
> resulting xf86config aborts because of font problems.

There is no longer an XF86Setup in XFree86-4. The gui-replacement
tool is xf86cfg (or the equivalent XFree86 -configure). This tool
is not quite as nice as the old XF86Setup (which would give positive
feedback on mouse configuration, etc.), but it is servicable. When
run as root, it places a new XF86Config file in /root. The old
console-based xf86config program is pretty much the same as the
old 3.x program.

As for fonts, did you choose to build fonts with the XFree86 install? 

Also, another *very common* error is failing to install
/usr/ports/x11/wrapper, which is needed if you are launching X as a
non-root user using startx/xinit. 

If you still have problems, try capturing the error messages with script
(man 1 script) and post the results here.

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 04:48:30AM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> "Crist J. Clark" <cjclark@reflexnet.net> writes:
> 
> >   # stunnel -d 993 -l /usr/local/libexec/imapd -- imapd
> > 
> > Doesn't work? Once someone connects, a separate stunnel should fork
> > leaving the listener bound on 993/tcp.
> 
> Shouldn't I be seeing one extra child of stunnel per every imapd
> process?  If I understand correctly, there should be one parent
> stunnel, spawning two children for each connection: one more stunnel
> to do the decryptiong magic, and one to exec the actual server to pipe
> the decrypted stream to.  Am I right?  Now I only see one stunnel
> process in "ps aux", and one imapd process.  But I think that already
> this should be two stunnels and one imapd.

I do not remember for sure, but I don't think it spawns two new
stunnel's per connection.
-- 
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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 03:17:22PM +0900, Kwangyul Seo wrote:

>Everything went well, but I can't hear the sound.

Mixer setting? Speaker volume knob?
Have you check those?

/john



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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 10:31:13PM -0800, Trevin Chow wrote:
> I previously wrote to the email list about my problems with NAT
> and my firewall rules... in a nutshell NAT doesnt' work =)
> 
> The freeBSD 4.2-Stable box can reach the internet, and is running
> sshd and proftd with no problems.
> 
> However, when I connect one of my internal machines to the
> internal interfaces on the server, the internet on those
> clients doesn't function.
> 
> TO provide more useful logs of `ipfw show`, I zero'd it out first
> with `ipfw zero`, then I did a simple request to load up a webpage
> in IE 5.5 on the client machine hooked up to my internal interface.
> 
> External Interface = dc0
> Internal interfaces = fxp0 and fxp1
> Connected client onto fxp1 and tried to loadup up yahoo.com
> ------------------

[snip]

> 65532 14 2968 deny udp from any to any

This seems to be your problem. Looks like your DNS is not working. Why
don't you log this rule to see exactly what is being denied here.
-- 
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to use jdk1.3 in freeBSD4.x follow the steps:

1. go to <your path>/jdk1.3/bin
2. view hidden files
3. open the script called 'java wrapper' with your favoutite editor
and change the following lines with arrrows:

# Resolve symlinks. See 4152645.
while [ -L "$PRG" ]; do
    ls=`/bin/ls -ld "$PRG"`
->    link=`/compat/linux/usr/bin/expr "$ls" : '.*-> \(.*\)$'`
->    if /compat/linux/usr/bin/expr "$link" : '/' > /dev/null; then

4.lastly go to the file .cshrc (if you use (t)csh) and add :
set path = (<your path>/jdk1.3.0_01/bin $path)

then you should run jdk1.3 

bye
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: wmoran@clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com
>[mailto:wmoran@clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com]On Behalf Of Bill Moran
>Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 9:22 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: tresstatus@bsdpunk.com; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: bellsouth dsl?
>
>
>Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>
>> Speaking as the admin of an ISP that deploys DSL I can't
>> disagree more!  I WANT stone-dumb support techs at the
>> Telco, because I want to discourage people from calling
>> the Telco if there's a problem!
>>
>
>I can understand exactly where you're coming from. I've got lots of
>clients who will try to fix things they have no understanding of and
>they by the time they call me the problem is 5x worse.
>Hmmm ... but if the telco people weren't "stone-dumb" they would know
>when they were in over their head and transfer the call to you.

I could only wish.  I don't know if this is a He-Man thing, but most
of the support techs won't admit when they are over their heads.  A
few do, and usually those are the ones that I think advance faster,
but the thick-headed ones don't seem to ever want to do this.

>If the tech had been smart enough to know when it was over
>his/her head,
>he would have sent us to level 2 tech support sooner, and saved us a
>bunch of time, him a bunch of time and the level 2 tech (who
>had to undo
>the level 1 tech's mistakes) a lot of time.

Quite true but I just don't trust them to do it.

>
>So why not make it policy within Telco support that anything outside
>what they can legitamately fix is to be referred to you?
>

I think that also the problem is that the Telco's don't trust the ISP's
to fix the problem either.

>> We do FreeBSD, Linux, MacOS, OS/2, Winders, NT, 2K support
>> all for DSL.
>
>Cheers! Honestly, I think that is fantastic! Are you available in
>Columbus, OH? I would give up my Time Warner cable (which is good,
>actually) in a second for someone who really understood networks.
>

We are only in the Portland OR/Vancouver WA area.  In that area we are known
and have a strong network - we are the only local ISP I know of that has
true Telco redundancy - we have separate fiber feeds from a LEC and a CLEC,
with
separate OC12s coming in and backbone connectivity over both.  A large part
of our original business is frame and T1 to corporate customers, we got into
the DSL because the smaller corporate users are starting to move away from
those circuits.  We never were soly a dialup house, which is what enables
enough revenue to afford decent networking folks.

Once AT&T Cable opens their network, we are going to be the first in the
door offering it in our market.

But, this is one of those things to where I can see that a large multi-city
ISP couldn't do what we do - they have to have cookie-cutter solutions and
can't do weird nets.  Unfortunately, most of the smallish ISP's wern't
started by businessmen, they were started by techies who were afraid of
going after the corporate customers, and went after dailups.  Now that the
dialup market is being sucked up by AOL, Earthlink and the others, a lot of
those smaller folks are dying along with them, and can't expand into DSL
because they don't have the infrastructure to do it.

>> Our job is getting the Internet to your system.
>> The Telco's job is delivering some circuit that they don't
>> know what the hell is running on it and they could care less.
>
>Agreed, unfortunately, the advertising that is being pushed on
>people in
>large quantities doesn't explain that, and the bullshit that people get
>from companies like Micros~1 is that "they shouldn't have to understand
>the system"
>
>> Remember they don't get paid for the Internet service ON the
>> DSL circuit, the get paid for the circuit itself.  Call the people
>> that do give a rat's ass about the Internet service on the DSL
>> circuit for help - the ISP.
>
>Keep in mind that quite often the ISP and the Telco are the same thing.

Gaakkkkk!!!  Yes - and it's the worst possible situation.  Fortunately
the FCC was able to wrench agreements from the major cable providers
getting them to open their networks, so the era of monopolistic broadband is
drawing to a close, thank God.




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Hi all,

    I have read alot about upgrading the version, and about CVSup
    or re building the kernel for some reasons like to enable the
    sound card or any other things.

    But i still confused too much about this subject,
    I hope this will be my first guide from you.

    I'm on FreeBSD 4.2-Release.

    For Disk Quotas,

1)  I First Edit my kernel
    /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC   to   options QUOTA

    or should I cp GENERIC MYKERNEL
    and then edit MYKERNEL insted of GENERIC ?
    im confused here. :<


2)  Second I edit /etc/rc.conf to enable_quotas=``YES''


3)  Edit /etc/fstab to enable disk quotas
    /dev/da1s2g    /home    ufs rw,groupquota 1 2

    what is the 1 2 after groupquota ? should i write the groups name
    for example /dev/da1s2g    /home    ufs rw,groupquota test

    assuming that test is a group.

4) Now i should recompile the kernel, this is the problem :<
   what i should do now? can please kindly someone guide me throe this
   steps how to compile ?


===

For system UPdate,
im On FreeBSD 4.2-release as i mentiond.
If i want to upgrade to 4.2-stable
what i do?

Should i install /ports/net/cvsup-bin   ?

and then?


Sorry if my questions is too long or silly for you.
but the freebsd.org handbook, mention lot of things
and im confuse about it, i would like to take the info from here.


Thank you again and again.

-Marwan

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Jan 23  0:38:14 2001
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Thus spake Yonny Cardenas B. (ycardena@yahoo.com):

> Is there anybody knows some reference (URL), tools or some help 
> to programming and debugging in the kernel FreeBSD?

Try http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/

Andrew W. Reiter has written a nice kernel mod tutorial.

There recently (last week or something) was a thread here or on
another mailinglist on how to debug kernel moduls, which is a little
bit tricky.

Just search the archives.

Alex


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At 22:31 22-01-01 -0500, you wrote:
>This may seem silly (and I haven't seen the whole thread), but are you sure
>that /dev/acd0c isn't mounted?  If it is and the process that automounted it
>has died (/stand/sysinstall is known to do this) then try a umount -f
>/dev/acd0c, and then try mounting the CD again.
>
>--
>Matt Emmerton
>
>

It's a good suggestion, but was one of the first things I tried. However, I
have found another, apparently related, error that may help someone figure
this out.

I figured the most likely culprit was mountd, so I tried 'killall -HUP
mountd', and found the following in /var/log/messages:

Jan 23 15:37:07 ceres mountd[121]: could not remount /cdrom: Invalid argument
Jan 23 15:37:07 ceres mountd[121]: bad exports list line /cdrom   -alldirs
-ro         grendel poppy

Now, the actual line in /etc/exports is:
/cdrom          -alldirs -ro         grendel poppy

The other exported filesystem has the line:
/usr/home       -alldirs        grendel poppy

and doesn't seem to generate an error message from mountd. I've checked the
man page for exports over and over again and I'm damned if I can see what
the invalid argument might be. A few months ago the mount command was also
giving me an error message based on an invalid argument in /etc/exports,
but it's not doing that any more, just the 'device busy', but I suspect
this has something to do with it.

The frustrating thing is it was working a couple of months ago, before we
took our two-week Xmas break, and I was able to access the cdrom from the
other server (indeed, all over the subnetwork which depends on the other
server).
--
Roger

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Here is an answer I got... What do u think of it ?

----- Message d'origine -----
De : Albert D. Cahalan
ƀ : jpham@mis.mc
Cc : acahalan@saturn.cs.uml.edu
EnvoyƩ : mardi 23 janvier 2001 02:14
Objet : Re: FreeBSD versus Linux



> First, what are the differences between the two OS ? Someone told
> me FreeBSD is real Unix, and Linux has nothing to do with Unix.
> But what does this means ? About compatibility for example ?

That is pure arrogance.

Long ago, BSD contained a few bits of real UNIX source code.
This was removed to settle a lawsuit. So now there isn't any
real UNIX source code, but some people have feelings about
the "heritage" and "tradition" of it all.

It is in fact illegal to call FreeBSD a real UNIX. The UNIX
name is a trademark which is licensed to any OS that can pass
a compatibility test. FreeBSD isn't even close to passing the
test, while Linux has at least passed the POSIX subset of it.
As an example, "ps -ef" is a common UNIX command that FreeBSD
does not support. It works fine on Linux, Solaris, AIX, etc.

Two interesting facts: Several Linux developers are helping to
write the next set of UNIX requirements. The UNIX source code
is now owned by a Linux company called Caldera.

> I have thought that unix software can run under linux.
...
> Can I find all kind of apps I can find on linux, on FreeBSD ?
> Such as office tools (such as staroffice), network and internet
> tools, and games ?

Linux apps are now more common than UNIX apps, and far more common
than FreeBSD apps. Anything you really need?

> But to be able to access FTP site I must first configure my
> internet access. I had this pb when I tried debian linux :
> I have installed the base OS with disks but then I was unable to
> configure my internet connection : I have not the tools needed.
> And what about FreeBSD ? I am in France and as DSL connection
> I have ADSL with PPPoE or PPTP.

Debian is a very good distribution, but it might not have PPPoE
on the base OS disks.

The second best distribution is Red Hat. It is very easy to
install from CD-ROM. For a x.0 release like 7.0, you should
be sure to check www.redhat.com for the latest updates.



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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Jan 23  0:56:49 2001
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	"Caleb Walker" <cwalker@cwalk.org>, <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
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Subject: Re: redirecting mail from root to another user...
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> On Monday 22 January 2001 19:44, Caleb Walker wrote:
> 
> > > I have a qpopper, sendmail, and BIND running on my home machine.  I
a> m
> > wondering what the best way to redirect all mail that gets sent to
root>  to
> > get sent to my other user which is cwalker.  I am not sure but,
setting>  up
> > an alias in the alias file doesnt seem like a good idea.  If it is let
> me
> > know.

Why would it be a bad idea ?
All my root mail is redirected via /etc/alias to an administrative (non-root)
user account. Actually safer than reading it as root..

Cliff



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I would like to know if it's possible to install two
routers on a freebsd system, which is acting as a
router for the clients on my network.

What I want to do is "split" the traffic from the
clients going out on to the Internet through the two
ADSL routers, so all traffic requested from the
clients via port 21 and 80 goes through one ADSL and
the rest of the traffic goes via the other router.

Cx = Clients on the network
Rx = The ADSL routers
B  = The BSD router

                21, 80
C1 --|        |------- R1
     |--- B --|
c2 --|        |------- R2

R1 is on ed1
R2 is on ed0
The network is connected via the ed1 also, but I can
put it on a seperate NIC lnc0

I have two seperate External IP addresses. One for
each ADSL.

I'm using NATD and ipfw to route via one of the
routers.
Also I can change the default router, so I change
between them, but that still leaves one adsl unused.

Is there anyway to do this?

Kristian Hald

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On Tue 2001-01-23 (09:43), Julien Pham wrote:
> Here is an answer I got... What do u think of it ?

Strictly, you aren't supposed to send private mail you receive to
mailing lists.  However, since it is here, I might as well comment.

[ quotes now from Mr. Calahan(sp?) ]

> > First, what are the differences between the two OS ? Someone told
> > me FreeBSD is real Unix, and Linux has nothing to do with Unix.
> > But what does this means ? About compatibility for example ?
> 
> That is pure arrogance.
> 
> Long ago, BSD contained a few bits of real UNIX source code.
> This was removed to settle a lawsuit. So now there isn't any
> real UNIX source code, but some people have feelings about
> the "heritage" and "tradition" of it all.

There is a strong feeling of tradition and heritage within BSD.  That
heritage is almost specifically for BSD Unix, which was based on, and
shared some code (in both directions) with, the original Unix.

That the owner of the UNIX trademark wishes to discount the BSD Unix
tradition doesn't affect the pride we have for the BSD tradition.

> > I have thought that unix software can run under linux.
> ...
> > Can I find all kind of apps I can find on linux, on FreeBSD ?
> > Such as office tools (such as staroffice), network and internet
> > tools, and games ?
> 
> Linux apps are now more common than UNIX apps, and far more common
> than FreeBSD apps. Anything you really need?

I wouldn't believe that statement without sufficient proof.  There are
many commercial application packages available for (e.g.) Solaris that
aren't available for Linux, so it may beat it on commercial
applications.  The free "Linux" applications generally work on multiple
platforms, and often aren't developed on Linux.

The FreeBSD ports collection has over 4500 applications, covering almost
anything you could possibly think of in open source software, and
providing an installation method for some non-open source software.  It
is growing at an impressive rate, and is possibly the largest collection
of packages available for an operating system (Debian may challenge it,
but only claims to have 3950 packages on their web page.  They do have
more, but I don't have statistics on it).

Neil
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Hi,


FreeBSD alderaan.unr.ih.uk.colt.net 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #0:
Fri Jul 28 14:30:31 GMT 2000    
jkh@ref4.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386

I keep getting the following message during the 'make' of the new
Kernal.

Does anyone recognise it?
[..]

-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  vers.c
linking kernel
/usr/libexec/elf/ld:procfs_map.o: file format not recognized; treating
as linker script
/usr/libexec/elf/ld:procfs_map.o:1: syntax error
*** Error code 1

thanks

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when i use bash, i have a bit in my bash_profile that puts some info in
the Eterm titlebar.

I do the same thing with zsh with the following code:
export TERM=xterm
fi
chpwd() {
  [[ -t 1 ]] || return
  case $TERM in
    xterm) print -Pn "\e]2;%n@%m  %~ %l %W\a"
    ;;
  esac
}

however unlike bash, when i return from another machine the titlebar
stuff doesn't switch back.

anyone have any idea how to do this?

=will


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Hi,
i'm trying to setup a NAT within a NAT and until now everything goes fine except
one thing (the most important..). I cannot ping a client in this second
sub-network. I can not even ping the broadcast address.

The situation is like this (where you see a '#', it is a network card):

         10.0.0.0            PC3     192.168.0.0
         +----+    +-PC1    +----+
         |1st |    |        |2nd |  
world<---#NAT #----+--------#NAT #-----PC4
         |serv|    |        |serv|     
         +----+    +-PC2    +----+

NOTE: PC3 and PC4 is connected with a crossover cable.

The output of ifconfig -a does not give anything strange (the two network cards
are OK) and the subnet mask and the ip-numbers are also OK - i check them with
an on-line utility (The ip address for the server(PC3) is 192.168.1.1 with
netmask 255.255.255.0). 
The message that i get when i'm trying to ping a client is:
  PING 192.168.1.2 (192.168.1.2): 56 data bytes
  ping: sendto: Host is down 
-- the same when i'm pinging from a client to a server.
Note the 1st NAT server works without any problem...
The configuration for the 2nd NAT server is the same as for the 1st..
Any idea where might be the problem?

Thanks in advanced,
paisios


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Hi,

        I work at Atento Brasil , a call center company , one of the
biggest of its segment , and today we have what its called router on a
stick , i'm considering that u already know what is this all about , i
was thinking about riping off the router , and put freebsd to run it ,
but before, i would like to ask u just 2 things.

1) The Vlan Tagging support for FreeBSD is 802.1q ?
2) Do u guys have an average of packets per second that freebsd can
handle on a pIII 700 Xeon

Thank you

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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I work at Atento Brasil ,
a call center company , one of the biggest of its segment , and today we
have what its called router on a stick , i'm considering that u already
know what is this all about , i was thinking about riping off the router
, and put freebsd to run it , but before, i would like to ask u just 2
things.
<p>1)&nbsp;The Vlan Tagging support for FreeBSD is 802.1q ?
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can handle on a pIII 700 Xeon
<pre>Thank you</pre>

<pre>--&nbsp;
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Will Yardley said:

> however unlike bash, when i return from another machine the titlebar
> stuff doesn't switch back.
> 
> anyone have any idea how to do this?

Yes, look at the zsh functions precmd, preexec and _chpwd_ which is
executed if exist...

It works perfect...


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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 12:21:26PM +0200, Pranas Banys wrote:
>     I'm  a  newbie.  Will   you  give    me  a hint  please, of  how I can
> see  the entire  output
> of unsuccesfully  started  XF86_SVGA?  Only  last   lines are  visible  now.
>     Thanks,in  advance.    

either scroll up (press the scroll button and go up with the
up-arrows and page-up keys) or start it with the "2>&1 | less"
suffix.

Edwin

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hi, thank u all for the help. im just reading ppp primer now and hopefully ill 
sort it out. the cd i have is not original, i burn it at work where there is 
cd writer thats why it doesnt have ports...

i was just hoping to avoid setting the ppp conf by hand as im very new to 
freebsd and have to admit ive got a bit baffled...

at the moment, when i tell ppp to dial i see the lights of the modem comming 
up but the connection is droped (it doesnt diad). in ms-windows, i specify not 
to detect dial-tone. this is because my phone dont have a constant dial tone 
as in many countries...

i'm 99% sure that if i find out how to conf so it doesnt try to detect 
dial-tone it'll be ok.

i got 2 isps, one being a university dial-up that someone gave me the pass. 
dont know if it uses pap, chap, what is the dns etc...

the other i can find out. it is nt server, if thats relevant. for the second 
isp to work, in ms-windows,apart from not detect dial-tone, i also have to add 
an additional string in the advanced settings of the modem: "x3".

i know this stuff may be simple i one uses freebsd for a while but if u are 
complete newbie it doesnt look very encouraging...

any suggestions are wellcome...
thanx again...

>===== Original Message From Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> =====
>On Monday January 22, 2001 15:01, Jonathan Chen wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 02:45:17PM -0500, jimmy fix wrote:
>> > basically i wanna change the window manager and put KDE so i can
>> > configure ppp (its easier from there)
>>
>> Installing a KDE ppp configuration tool for Linux will *NOT* work for
>> FreeBSD, since Linux configuration file locations are different
>> enough from FreeBSD that it won't find anything to work against.
>
>I didn't reallize that, but either way, kppp should get him a working
>script and then he could use that to put the right info in the right
>files.  You'll have to read the ppp primers, as I have a cable modem
>and don't worry about ppp anymore.
>
>> Configuring PPP is usually as simple as editing /etc/ppp/ppp.conf,
>> editing the "set device ...", "set phone ...", "set authname ..." and
>> "set authkey ..." lines. And then running the ppp(1) program to see
>> what happens.
>>
>> If you've got the ports system installed (and you've got Internet
>> connectivity), you can build KDE by:
>
>right, but if he doesn't have ppp working, that won't be so easy.
>If you have an installation cd, kde should be on it.  From root type
>/stand/sysinstall to get back into the installation/config program use
>it to install the kde packages that are on the CD.  Or you can do it
>manually by cd'ing into the packages directory on the CD after mounting
>it.   Installing the package from cd-rom will work without an internet
>connection.
>
>						Tim



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alex@FreeBSD.ORG (Alexander Langer) writes:
> There recently (last week or something) was a thread here or on
> another mailinglist on how to debug kernel moduls, which is a little
> bit tricky.

It's also documented in the handbook.

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Thus spake Dag-Erling Smorgrav (des@ofug.org):

> > There recently (last week or something) was a thread here or on
> > another mailinglist on how to debug kernel moduls, which is a little
> > bit tricky.
> It's also documented in the handbook.

Well, actually debugging modules is a little bit more tricky than
debugging kernels with statically linked drivers.

This is what I meant.

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Alexander Langer <alex@FreeBSD.ORG> writes:
> Thus spake Dag-Erling Smorgrav (des@ofug.org):
> > Alexander Langer <alex@FreeBSD.ORG> writes:
> > > There recently (last week or something) was a thread here or on
> > > another mailinglist on how to debug kernel moduls, which is a little
> > > bit tricky.
> > It's also documented in the handbook.
> Well, actually debugging modules is a little bit more tricky than
> debugging kernels with statically linked drivers.

It's still documented in the handbook. I don't see where you find a
contradiction here.

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Jan Knepper wrote:
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> I think I've got a nice one at http://www.digitaldaemon.com/
> It's copyrighted though...

Yeah. Well. Aren't they all? A copyright is an inalienable right
granted upon creation to the creator (creatress? :). Been awhile
and IANAL but I believe you can only transfer or grant exploit and
distribution rights. E.g. to the company one works for.

Another aspect is that the prototypical FreeBSD daemon also is
copyrighted. Yet distribution has been granted on certain terms.

There are also trademark laws, one can trademark an image. Then,
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Like with all legal things, it's a mess out there <g>.

But they are nice drawings, indeed!

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Hi. I've done the following:

ran a 3.4-stable system satisfactorilly, wanted to switch to 4.x

various attempts to upgrade 4.x failed using CVS and make world

re-installed using ISO 4.1 image from ftp.freebsd.org by booting from CD
and leaving the filesystem intact but 're-installing' the system.

installed additional packages using /stand/sysinstall

and all that worked;

 12# uname -a
FreeBSD messenger 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #0: Sun Dec 17 18:12:40
CET 2000
root@messenger:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

Altough the system provides me with samba and inet services, I then wanted
to proceed to further upgrade my system to the STABLE branch, because I still 
couldn't get IPFilter installed.

using the following cvsup as such
	
	cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/secure-stable-supfile

where /etc/secure-stable-supfile reads:

	# Defaults that apply to all the collections
	*default host=cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
	*default base=/usr
	*default prefix=/usr
	*default release=cvs tag=FreeBSD-STABLE
	*default delete use-rel-suffix
	*default compress

	src-all

(without the tabs, btw ;)
this outputs:

Parsing supfile "secure-stable-supfile"
Looking up address of cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
Connecting to cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
Connected to cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
Server software version: REL_16_1
Negotiating file attribute support
Exchanging collection information
Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection
Running
Updating collection src-all/cvs
--> for a long time nothing happens <--
Shutting down connection to server
Finished successfully

but there are NO new files in /usr/src!!!

Changing the server to cvsup.FreeBSD.org didn't make 
ANY difference, unfortunately.

To tell you the truth, I'm getting fairly fed up with it all. 
All I wanted was to migrate to 4.x in order to use ipFilter easilly, 
and it's turned out to be quite a nightmare for me; after 4 weeks still no
fully working system. -:((

<hangs head>
I admit it. I'm a lost puppy, and I need a friendly 
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hi..

been messing around with freebsd recently on an old P100. i want to know about 
its compatibility with a cpl of cards i have in there.

one is an old non p-n-p dlink de220ct isa network card. it uses a dl2517 chip 
but i'm unsure of which driver this will match with. is it a ne2000 clone or 
will it require ibm drivers? i've looked through the website for documentation 
on d-link but no joy. i actually have access to quite a few slightly differing 
versions of this card if that will help.

the other card is a much newer (1998 i think) diamond multimedia pci sound 
card. it seems to be based around an ess maestro-2 chip. i dont know much 
about this one as the diamond site is a bit lacking in legacy info. i have got 
it working in windoze95. it appears to be a 'sonic impact' card. no fcc id but 
it has p/n 23010117-002

having demonstrated to myself that i can use my modem with freebsd, i'm keen 
to do away with the dos partition altogether and use this box as a gateway for 
my other machine (sparc classic running netbsd) or possibly the other way 
around. to do this tho i must get the network card working.

incidentally - i know the irq and mem address set in the dlink card from 
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any help would be much appreciated.

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I have an ADSL modem Alcatel Home touch which is connected to my computer
with an ethernet card (not USB then). My ISP accept both PPPoE and PPTP but
have said that with this modem I can only use PPPoE.
What do you think of it, and if it is true, where can I find info on how to
configure a PPTP connection under FreeBSD ? Because I have seen only for
PPPoE... I have found something to configure a PPTP under linux, but do u
think it will work under FreeBSD ?

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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 12:36:50PM +0100, rene@xs4all.nl wrote:
> Hi. I've done the following:
> 
> ran a 3.4-stable system satisfactorilly, wanted to switch to 4.x
> 
> various attempts to upgrade 4.x failed using CVS and make world
> 
> re-installed using ISO 4.1 image from ftp.freebsd.org by booting from CD
> and leaving the filesystem intact but 're-installing' the system.
> 
> installed additional packages using /stand/sysinstall
> 
> and all that worked;
> 
>  12# uname -a
> FreeBSD messenger 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #0: Sun Dec 17 18:12:40
> CET 2000
> root@messenger:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
> 
> Altough the system provides me with samba and inet services, I then wanted
> to proceed to further upgrade my system to the STABLE branch, because I still 
> couldn't get IPFilter installed.
> 
> using the following cvsup as such
> 	
> 	cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/secure-stable-supfile
> 
> where /etc/secure-stable-supfile reads:
> 
> 	# Defaults that apply to all the collections
> 	*default host=cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
> 	*default base=/usr
> 	*default prefix=/usr
> 	*default release=cvs tag=FreeBSD-STABLE
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Try RELENG_4

> 	*default delete use-rel-suffix
> 	*default compress
> 
> 	src-all
> 
> (without the tabs, btw ;)
> this outputs:
> 
> Parsing supfile "secure-stable-supfile"
> Looking up address of cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
> Connecting to cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
> Connected to cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
> Server software version: REL_16_1
> Negotiating file attribute support
> Exchanging collection information
> Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection
> Running
> Updating collection src-all/cvs
> --> for a long time nothing happens <--
> Shutting down connection to server
> Finished successfully
> 
> but there are NO new files in /usr/src!!!
> 
> Changing the server to cvsup.FreeBSD.org didn't make 
> ANY difference, unfortunately.
> 
> To tell you the truth, I'm getting fairly fed up with it all. 
> All I wanted was to migrate to 4.x in order to use ipFilter easilly, 
> and it's turned out to be quite a nightmare for me; after 4 weeks still no

Try using RELENG_4 as the tag, not FreeBSD-STABLE, then you'll get all the
new files.

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Julien Pham wrote:
> 
> I have an ADSL modem Alcatel Home touch which is connected to my computer
> with an ethernet card (not USB then). My ISP accept both PPPoE and PPTP but
> have said that with this modem I can only use PPPoE.
> What do you think of it, and if it is true, where can I find info on how to
> configure a PPTP connection under FreeBSD ? Because I have seen only for
> PPPoE... I have found something to configure a PPTP under linux, but do u
> think it will work under FreeBSD ?
> 
The first place to always look is in the man page, "man 8 ppp", there
are examples there.  Secondly you could try the handbook,
/usr/share/doc/handbook or http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook (specifically
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Albert D. Cahalan <acahalan@cs.uml.edu> types:
> David Kelly writes:
> > [--snip--]
> >> On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:54:58PM -0600, David Kelly wrote:
> 
> >>> The majority of Linux users are also Windows users and wear
> >>> Microsoft-colored glasses no matter how much they badmouth
> >>> Microsoft. They continue to build their new land with a
> >>> Microsoft tint. This may not be a bad thing, only time will tell.
> > What I mean by "Microsoft tint" is prefaced by "Microsoft-colored
> > glasses". Users who know only of Windows bitch when an OS doesn't do
> > everything the way they are used to. When configuring a foreign system,
> > or writing code for it, they design the user interface after the
> > Microsoft model. And use Microsoft terminology to document. And then
> > complain about how much they hate Microsoft.
> The GNOME+Gtk desktop looks like OS/2 and Motif. NeXT-like themes
> are very common. The usual title bar buttons are actually useful,
> and hey, Motif was quite a Windows 3.1 rip-off anyway.

I think you've got that backwards - or maybe sideways. Remember, MS &
IBM produced OS/2 in a partnership; it was supposed to be the next OS
after DOS. MS screwed IBM by not actually supporting OS/2 the way they
had agreed upon, and doing Windows internally. Motif, on the other
hand, was produced by a consortium that included IBM, and was
specifically designed to look like OS/2 - which IBM owned, so it
wasn't a ripoff. I don't remember if the GUI design went from OS/2 ->
Windows or the other way, but it's sort of moot; MS had rights to both
in either case.

Of course, MS stole the Windows UI from Apple (only they did a
miserable job of implementing it), who stole it (if you ask Xerox) or
licensed it (if you ask Apple) from Xerox.

> It is stupid to invent a gratuitously incompatible user interface.

Which was why Motif looked like OS/2. That your users could move
between PC's running OS/2 and Unix boxes running Motif with no
training. 

On the other hand, there's no such thing as "gratuitously incompatible
user interfaces". All those changes are *improvements* - just ask the
authors!

If you want to argue that one of the reasons that Unix failed on the
desktop was that X allowed the users to run arbitrarily strange window
managers, and most of those window managers allowed configuration to
an extent that would require major rewrites of MacOS or Windows, I
won't argue. I would claim that the kernel APIs being different were
more of a reason, but that's just me.

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Steve M wrote:
> > What I mean by "Microsoft tint" is prefaced by.........
 
> The *nix OS' lack sufficient documentation for the average user.  I

> Windows is the most trouble free for my minor uses of PCing, surfing the net 
> and putting together these  emails.  

Glad I saw several posts - I can see where you are coming from.
Once apon a time ...
I remember getting my first PC - a 286.   Enclosed was a thorough book showing
me all about DOS 3.3(a).  Similarly with MS Word, Quattro Pro, R:Base, Norton
Untilities - hell YOU name it - up to and including Windows 3.11.  All came
with extensive and worthwhile hardcopy documentation.
After that it was all downhill.  Nowadays you have to pay - a LOT - to obtain 
any worthwhile documentation on just about any Win-based app.

Linux is almost the reverse.  I liken it to an extensive Library with no card
index system, containing books whose titles sometimes give little guide to the
contents, none of which contain their own index.   Worse, most of the
documentation is written by geeks for geeks and is out of date, anyway.
You can buy books, but be careful.  Running Linux, which you like, is fine
provided you are running RedHat 5.2.  Trouble is that Linux is developing so
fast that publications can't keep up.  However, decent reference books like
"Linux in a Nutshell' will retain their value because they refer to command
structures that do not change much over time.

FreeBSD has a long and stable history.  Although you don't like it, I think the
documentation is superb.  I was specially attracted to "The Complete FreeBSD"
because it explained what I needed to know and what I need to do without
using geekspeak or talking down to me.  I have since found a number of
excellent documents which are particularly helpful to newbies like me.  One 16M
HTML doc by Doug Young shows step by step with screenshots, how to install
FreeBSD onto a laptop which is not equipped with a CDROM - I'll be using that
RSN.

As they say "Your mileage may vary" - I just thought I'd present another side
of the picture.

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I know all that...
The issue is that people can easily copy it because it's on the web...
However it would be nice if they were aware of the copyrights issue's 
and requested permission if they wanted to do something with it.

Thanks for looking at it and your apreciation!

Jan



Roelof Osinga wrote:

> Jan Knepper wrote:
> 
>> I think I've got a nice one at http://www.digitaldaemon.com/
>> It's copyrighted though...
> 
> 
> Yeah. Well. Aren't they all? A copyright is an inalienable right
> granted upon creation to the creator (creatress? :). Been awhile
> and IANAL but I believe you can only transfer or grant exploit and
> distribution rights. E.g. to the company one works for.
> 
> Another aspect is that the prototypical FreeBSD daemon also is
> copyrighted. Yet distribution has been granted on certain terms.
> 
> There are also trademark laws, one can trademark an image. Then,
> naturally, there satirical uses. And...
> 
> Like with all legal things, it's a mess out there <g>.
> 
> But they are nice drawings, indeed!
> 
> Roelof
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<html><head></head><body>I know all that...<br>
The issue is that people can easily copy it because it's on the web... <br>
However it would be nice if they were aware of the copyrights issue's and
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<br>
Thanks for looking at it and your apreciation!<br>
<br>
Jan<br>
<br>
<br>
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  <blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">I think I've got a nice one at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.digitaldaemon.com/">http://www.digitaldaemon.com/</a><br>It's copyrighted though...<br></pre></blockquote>
    <pre wrap=""><!----><br>Yeah. Well. Aren't they all? A copyright is an inalienable right<br>granted upon creation to the creator (creatress? :). Been awhile<br>and IANAL but I believe you can only transfer or grant exploit and<br>distribution rights. E.g. to the company one works for.<br><br>Another aspect is that the prototypical FreeBSD daemon also is<br>copyrighted. Yet distribution has been granted on certain terms.<br><br>There are also trademark laws, one can trademark an image. Then,<br>naturally, there satirical uses. And...<br><br>Like with all legal things, it's a mess out there &lt;g&gt;.<br><br>But they are nice drawings, indeed!<br><br>Roelof<br><br></pre>
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Hello,

I am rather new at using FreeBSD, having used Linux for the past three years or so as my primary OS (getting that out of the way to 'set' the level of discussion). I currently have FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE installed on a small-ish 2G partition, and having dabbled with it I'm almost ready to re-install it in a larger partition, as soon as my new hard drive arrives.

Any suggestions about partitioning welcome. Currently planning to have either root, usr and home, or just root and home. But the main reason I send this query is regarding building the ports collection. I have access to a fast Internet connection at the university but the connection for my PC itself is a 9.6 Kbps GSM using a mobile phone (so I have rather non-standard hardwares including an Elan P-series desktop PCMCIA reader - part of the reason I'm abandoning Linux is the mess they have made with PCMCIA support recently). Let me detail my current plan.

1. Install 4.2-RELEASE
2. Download latest ports tgz in computer room, burn to CD
3. Install ports
2. Use CVSup (set up CTM for later regular use) to sync with 4.2-STABLE and sync the ports tree
3. make World in /usr/src
4. recompile kernel
5. test
6. *this is the biggie*. In /usr/ports, do 'make fetch-list', copy the list to floppy, download all the files in the list in the computer room and transfer in CD-Rs.
7. Build ports

This raises some questions.
1. How much space to allocate for the ports' sources? My new hard disk is 20 Gig, planning to use it for FreeBSD, Linux, BeOS and QNX. Old hard disk for Windows and Solaris. Oops, flame bait :). I am thinking of having a shared partition for use by FreeBSD and Linux... perhaps ext2 since Linux's ufs support is not certified stable?

2. Will the above plan work?

Thanks a lot in advance,

Michel Salim

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Hello,

I am rather new at using FreeBSD, having used Linux for the past three years or so as my primary OS (getting that out of the way to 'set' the level of discussion). I currently have FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE installed on a small-ish 2G partition, and having dabbled with it I'm almost ready to re-install it in a larger partition, as soon as my new hard drive arrives.

Any suggestions about partitioning welcome. Currently planning to have either root, usr and home, or just root and home. But the main reason I send this query is regarding building the ports collection. I have access to a fast Internet connection at the university but the connection for my PC itself is a 9.6 Kbps GSM using a mobile phone (so I have rather non-standard hardwares including an Elan P-series desktop PCMCIA reader - part of the reason I'm abandoning Linux is the mess they have made with PCMCIA support recently). Let me detail my current plan.

1. Install 4.2-RELEASE
2. Download latest ports tgz in computer room, burn to CD
3. Install ports
2. Use CVSup (set up CTM for later regular use) to sync with 4.2-STABLE and sync the ports tree
3. make World in /usr/src
4. recompile kernel
5. test
6. *this is the biggie*. In /usr/ports, do 'make fetch-list', copy the list to floppy, download all the files in the list in the computer room and transfer in CD-Rs.
7. Build ports

This raises some questions.
1. How much space to allocate for the ports' sources? My new hard disk is 20 Gig, planning to use it for FreeBSD, Linux, BeOS and QNX. Old hard disk for Windows and Solaris. Oops, flame bait :). I am thinking of having a shared partition for use by FreeBSD and Linux... perhaps ext2 since Linux's ufs support is not certified stable?

2. Will the above plan work?

Thanks a lot in advance,

Michel Salim


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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 05:04:20PM +0200, Adriaan Rossouw wrote:
> I was wondering if someone knew where i could find some large images
> of the BSD daemon, I am looking to use it for wallpapers etc. and I
> only seem to be finding small pictures.

There's also the "SecureBSD" logo on:
http://misery.subnet.at/gfx/toonz.html

While not your typical beastie, it also makes for a good desktop background
(as do quite a few other images on that site).

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I can't help you with much of this .. but ny tuppence worth is below..

Cliff

> Hello,
> 
> I am rather new at using FreeBSD, having used Linux for the past three
ye> ars or so as my primary OS (getting that out of the way to 'set' the
leve> l of discussion). I currently have FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE installed on a
sma> ll-ish 2G partition, and having dabbled with it I'm almost ready to
re-in> stall it in a larger partition, as soon as my new hard drive arrives.
> 
> Any suggestions about partitioning welcome. Currently planning to have
ei> ther root, usr and home, or just root and home. 
You might want to consider having a seperate /var, depending on how
mucal mail, news, logs you process..
But the main reason I
sen> d this query is regarding building the ports collection. I have access
to>  a fast Internet connection at the university but the connection for my
P> C itself is a 9.6 Kbps GSM using a mobile phone (so I have rather
non-sta> ndard hardwares including an Elan P-series desktop PCMCIA reader - part
o> f the reason I'm abandoning Linux is the mess they have made with PCMCIA
> support recently). Let me detail my current plan.
> 
> 1. Install 4.2-RELEASE
> 2. Download latest ports tgz in computer room, burn to CD
> 3. Install ports
> 2. Use CVSup (set up CTM for later regular use) to sync with 4.2-STABLE
a> nd sync the ports tree
> 3. make World in /usr/src
> 4. recompile kernel
> 5. test
> 6. *this is the biggie*. In /usr/ports, do 'make fetch-list', copy the
li> st to floppy, download all the files in the list in the computer room
and>  transfer in CD-Rs.
> 7. Build ports
> 
> This raises some questions.
> 1. How much space to allocate for the ports' sources? My new hard disk
is>  20 Gig, planning to use it for FreeBSD, Linux, BeOS and QNX. Old hard
di> sk for Windows and Solaris. Oops, flame bait :). I am thinking of having
> a shared partition for use by FreeBSD and Linux... perhaps ext2 since
Lin> ux's ufs support is not certified stable?

There are warnings in the FBSD kernel configuration files about EXT2 support,
something abou tit "lagging behind" .. :)

> 
> 2. Will the above plan work?
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance,
> 
> Michel Salim
> 
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Hi
I have been asked to find a cheap solution for dialin for a few users.
I am thinking about a Cyclades board or one of those Boca boards and 
some rack-mounted modems.
I've checked the web and identified Cyclades "Cyclom 8YoP" and Boca Research's
BB2016.
What are folks using out there? Anyone can help me with some HOWTOs (titbits) 
towards this endeavor?

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Hi.
I am a bit newbie to fbsd.I have realized that I can
not get use of my whole cpu performance at any time.I
think it is a security measure.That's good for
security but not good for home usage.I think those
values are arranged with sysctl command.But there is
not option for cpu utilization at fbsd kernel ?Or
there is?Where can I find a document for that(for
system perf tunning)

Additionally  I have another problem.After changing a
value with sysctl -w kern.xxx I can see the affect
with using "limits" command.It goes on to show old
values.Is there a conf file for limits command.It is
not much related with sysctl.I can change my system's
value with sysctl but it is a bit annoying.Especially
for a newbie :)

To give an example I am doing  sysctl -w
kern.openfiles=10000 it says 192--->100000.That shows
me value has changed but after that change I use
limits command and output is different

Resource limits (current):
  cputime          infinity secs
  filesize         infinity kb
  datasize           524288 kb
  stacksize           65536 kb
  coredumpsize     infinity kb
  memoryuse        infinity kb
  memorylocked     infinity kb
  maxprocesses          531
  openfiles            1064
  sbsize           infinity bytes
-----
openfiles is 1064 here ...I just have realised that
after doing a boot those value in kernel is 
kern.openfiles: 192  but limits command's output gives
me something different.I am in fact a linux user for 3
years.And started to think linux is faster.But I am
sure after changing those values(Especially cpu
utilization value) I can get a better performance from
my fbsd box.Cause until now I have never seen that my
cpu load is %100 or more in fbsd.But Linux uses all
cpu at any time.Simply using a tar zxvf command can be
enough for that...

Regards..





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> I hope this message is coming to the right place... all my other searches
> have been futile.
> 
> I am wanting to use the autodial feature to:
> i)  Dial number A if the destination ip address is 1.2.3.4
> ii) Dial number B if the destination ip address is anything else
> 
> ie. the BSD box must connect (dial) a certain sserver if a packet to that
> machine is encountered; or dial an isp number if any other ips are
> encountered.

I don;t know if this is possibble, but it certainly begs a lot of questions.
Just one. Most things that will stimulate a dial-out will involve a DNS
enquiry, do you have your own DNS ? If not, which one should it dial ?

..

I would think you could better look at doing this at a higher level,
by having seperate targets in your ppp.conf and (somehow) wrapping
requests up with something that decided which to dial..

I have been thinking about this very problem myself...you really want to
do it at the level of the name of s provider to dial, not an IP address.

I will watch with interest

Cliff



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* Donald Orbin <OrbinDRH@elec.durban.gov.za> [20010123 15:34]: writing on the subject 'ppp + dialing different numbers'
Donald> I hope this message is coming to the right place... all my other searches have been futile.
Donald> 
Donald> I am wanting to use the autodial feature to:
Donald> i)  Dial number A if the destination ip address is 1.2.3.4
Donald> ii) Dial number B if the destination ip address is anything else
Donald> 
Donald> ie. the BSD box must connect (dial) a certain sserver if a packet to that machine is encountered; or dial an isp number if any other ips are encountered.
Donald> 
Donald> Regards
Donald> Donald

I may be wrong and daft but I think this is an unrealistic implementation without
anything in mind to be achieved. Why am I thinking this way?

o Packets will be sent all the time, right? So which packets do you 'put on hold' (how
  do you prioritize?)
o A connection is already made because there are packets destined to 1.2.3.4 and it is 
  a 2MB file - is it not logical that the server has to wait till  the 2MB is sent?

Looks like you're looking for what the advanced guys call OSPF (Open Shortest Path
First??) Just build a ppp gateway and install ZEBRA from the ports as your routing
daemon - and configure it -

_else_ try to give us more light on your intentions.


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hi
i've got two hard disks. 4.2GB and 2.1GB. ad0 and ad2 (as shown in the
freebsd install). now, i have windows on ad0 and want to install freebsd
on ad2. when it asks me on which drive i want to install freebsd, i say
ad2 and it takes me to a screen where it shows the partition info of
ad2. that was the simple part. at this point it hasn't asked me to give
the filesystem breakup info.

next, it asks wether i want to install the freebsd boot manager in the
mbr or standard boot loader or whatever. i choose the  first option and
then it asks on which disk. ad2 is already checked (probably because of
the last step) here, i need need the boot loader in the mbr. so that's
on ad0. so i uncheck ad2 and say ad0. but then it asks me to give the
filesystem info like where to put swap, the native slice, etc. thing
is...it automatically choses ad0 for the filesystem. how do i change
this? when i go back and come to the bootmanager question and chose the
first option, it directly takes me to the screen where i have to set up
the filesystem structure. here, is there any way i can indicate that it
has to be on ad2?

where do i indicate which partition is bootable? when i said ad0 (on my
last attempt) i got a boot loader that can load windows but chosing
freebsd lands me at the boot prompt.

what do i do?

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1.If i follow instructions at:
http://www.freebsd.org/java/install.html would it
enable java to be run on a Fbsd machine ?
2.Should this path exist on the machine, assuming
default instal?
cd /usr/ports/java/jdk 
3. Why is there a whole section on building a port
from Porters handbook when any one can run Java by
following instructions at:
http://www.freebsd.org/java/install.html

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Hi all,

I am trying to install FreeBSD 4.2 to my laptop. I am using a 3Com
3CCFE575CT PCMCIA network card to do this install. I am having no joy
:( 

When I boot from the disks, I am asked if I wish to use pccards for
the installation. I say yes. It then asks me for a Memory address and
I select default. It then asks me for an IRQ and I selected 10.

It then says last chance to swap boot media for install media if I
need it. I select ok, and it probes devices. 

If I then Alt-F2, I see a message saying:
DEBUG: ioctl(3, TIOCCONS, NULL) = 0 (success)
poccard: card inserted, slot 0

I then go into options and set DHCP to yes (default is no)

I then tried to select
6 NFS as my media type under the options menu. It asks me for the full
NFS specification for the remote host.
I enter 
machinename:/mnt/cdrom

It then asks for Network interface information and presents me with 3
options. 
lp0
sl0
ppp0

I don't see a network card as an option there. If I remove and
re-insert the card, still no joy.

Is what I want to do possible? I don't see this pcmcia card model on
the supported hardware list, but it works under linux, so I was hoping
:)

Any assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated!

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Crist,

thanks for your help - another question - I have the new IP address 
on the machine - how do I publish it so that it can be found from 
other networks?  I tried:

arp -s new_ip ether_addr pub

but it returned the message

cannot intuit interface index and type for new_ip

any idea what is going wrong

Marcus

> On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 02:55:48PM +1000, marcus@redcentre.com wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > just a question about migrating a DNS server (FreeBSD 4) to a new 
> > subnet.  I thought that it may be possible to add a new IP address to 
> > a single interface card so that two subnets were running on the same 
> > interface.  The DNS records could then be updated as appropriate, 
> > time allowed for replication and then the old subnet taken down - 
> > does this make sense? 
> 
> Yes. People do this all of the time.
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
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I know there are nat experts in the house :)
I posted a long boring message a while ago about nat/ipfw/ppp..no one
answered it :(. I will try again..

The documentation on nat/ipfw/ppp is somewhat contradictory. In short
I want to firewall my PPP gateway to my ISP so that from my local newtork
everything is allowed out, including all local access to the gateway itself.
On the way in I want to allow:

SMTP
Replies to DNS 
NNTP
NTP
SSH
HTTP
FTP

Do I use IPFW or is it better to use the PPP filter mechanism ?
Are there any known working examples of IPFW for this, I am danged if
I can get the IPFW commands to do what I want, and the examples .. well
either I don;t understand them, or they don;t work.. :(

I think I understand the concepts, I know what I want.
I am syntactically challenged however..


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Kent,

If you're going to spend the money on a 1U case, I'd reccomend starting with
a nice Intel or other high-end motherboard with onboard controllers (keeping
your 1 PCI slot open for future expansion).  IIRC, there's one out there
with onboard video, 2 ethernet ports (fxp), and SCSI.  This would make for a
nice base for either of your applications.

Additionally, I'd reccomend IBM SCSI drives and Intel Etherexpress Pro/100
NICs.  Beyond that, it's all the same.

--
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They told me to think out of the box, but I
tripped over it, now I own my own company.



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**
**
** If I'm to build a server to run FreeBSD, do you have any advice what
** hardware to buy to get the most reliable server? What I mean is
**
**   Trusted hardware
**   Well supported drivers
**
** One server is to be used as a firewall, one as a low traffic web
** server. So what parts would you buy if the only thing to think about
** is cost and stability, not so much about performance and features?
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** put the parts together, configure a kernel and that it will run for
** years. No SCSI required.
**
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** know a good microATX motherboard well supported by FreeBSD? The
** stability is more important than the size of the case so if you think
** microATX motherboards have lower quality then I will use an ordinary
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the problem is that the DNS for the domain is also the mail server 
for the domain and there is a need to migrate to a new subnet - so 
far I have aliased the new IP address onto the nic (via ifconfig) - 
I'm just not sure haw to tell the rest of the world that new_ip may 
be found at ether_addr.  Once this has been achieved the DNS records 
can be updated to reflect the new subdomain.

Marcus

> * marcus@redcentre.com <marcus@redcentre.com> [20010123 16:36]: writing on the subject 'Changing IP address on DNS'
> marcus> Crist,
> marcus> 
> marcus> thanks for your help - another question - I have the new IP address 
> marcus> on the machine - how do I publish it so that it can be found from 
> marcus> other networks?  I tried:
> marcus> 
> marcus> arp -s new_ip ether_addr pub
> marcus> 
> marcus> but it returned the message
> marcus> 
> marcus> cannot intuit interface index and type for new_ip
> 
> Isn't it true that IP addresses are tied to hostnames via db.some_domain and that once
> it is in there and the DNS Server is running it will just be found?
> As long as the Name Server was reloaded after the change.
> 
> marcus> 
> marcus> any idea what is going wrong
> marcus> 
> marcus> Marcus
> marcus> 
> marcus> > On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 02:55:48PM +1000, marcus@redcentre.com wrote:
> marcus> > > Hi,
> marcus> > > 
> marcus> > > just a question about migrating a DNS server (FreeBSD 4) to a new 
> marcus> > > subnet.  I thought that it may be possible to add a new IP address to 
> marcus> > > a single interface card so that two subnets were running on the same 
> marcus> > > interface.  The DNS records could then be updated as appropriate, 
> marcus> > > time allowed for replication and then the old subnet taken down - 
> marcus> > > does this make sense? 
> marcus> > 
> marcus> > Yes. People do this all of the time.
> marcus> > -- 
> marcus> > Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> marcus> > 
> marcus> 
> marcus> 
> marcus> 
> marcus> 
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I don't know how well-supported is the rest of the 'exotic' languages but trying
to provide freebsd (kde) with some basic greek functionality turns up to be a
miserable quest.

I have installed some greek fonts (from the linux 'graphis' project) and they
seem to work for my netscape.. to my satisfaction, i can now read web-pages
written in greek.

But what about XEmacs? When I go to Options->Font, the greek fonts are in grey
(unavailable).. StarOffice doesn't even bother to show them in its
fonts-listing.

but... why?

And what about KDE (which i do like very much btw)..?
The KDE Control Center is provided with the very hopefull options
Desktop->Languages and InputDevices->InternationalKeybord..

But the cruel reality is that when i go to Desktop->Languages and set Greek (el)
as a second language and click on "Apply" i get the message "Changed language
settings apply only to newly started applications. To change the language of all
programs, you will have to logout first." and thus the change is not applied (no
matter if you do "logout first").

All of the same, when i go to InputDevices->InternationalKeybord and go so far
as to actually add "El1 Language: Greek. Charset: iso8859-7. Hellenic Keyboard
(Latin-1 keysyms corresponding to ISO8859-7 indexes)" i see no difference, i get
no language indication (and of course the "switch" key-combination doesn't do
anything)..

Ok..ok.. maybe some other utility you'd suggest. Indeed, it was some months ago
that Giorgos Keramydas in this very list, suggested GRkbd-1.3.2. I've downloaded
it and installed it and it appears to work.. I'm now able of switching my
keyboard to greek but what's the use of it when my editors (like i've already
mentioned) won't use the installed, greek fonts..? I only get gibberish (a very
common sight to a greek user) like: Ć¬Ć„Ć£ĆœĆ«ĆÆĆ² Ć¬Ć°Ć„Ć«ĆœĆ² ƱƄ Ć”Ć¤Ć„Ć±Ć¶Ć..

It may be that i'm missing the obvious and still it may be that the obvious is
not obvious at all. Computers are english speaking and that's ok but one should
be able of using his native language without much effort..

Any suggestion is welcome..
I'm using freebsd 4.2 and kde 1.1.2

thanks,
dimitri

ps> M$'s greek support is fine and easy and i think that will always be a great
drawback for the average greek user to ever quit M$ for unix..


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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Brian Astill wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Julien Pham wrote:
> > Someone told me of a compareason chart I can find on the FreeBSD CD, but can
> > I find this chart elsewhere, without downloading the whole ISO file ?
> 
> FreeBSD.org - documentation.  You should find just about everything you need,
> there.
> 
> 

Hmmm... the cdrom cirtainly has quite a bit of information as well.

ABOUT.TXT       TROUBLE.TXT     compat1x/       doc/            manpages/
ERRATA.TXT      UPGRADE.TXT     compat20/       filename.txt    packages/
HARDWARE.TXT    XF86336/        compat21/       floppies/       ports/
INSTALL.TXT     bin/            compat22/       games/          proflibs/
LAYOUT.TXT      book/           compat3x/       info/           src/
README.TXT      catpages/       crypto/         kernel          tools/
RELNOTES.TXT    cdrom.inf       dict/           makeflp.bat




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I don't know how well-supported is the rest of the 'exotic' languages but trying
to provide freebsd (kde) with some basic greek functionality turns up to be a
miserable quest.

I have installed some greek fonts (from the linux 'graphis' project) and they
seem to work for my netscape.. to my satisfaction, i can now read web-pages
written in greek.

But what about XEmacs? When I go to Options->Font, the greek fonts are in grey
(unavailable).. StarOffice doesn't even bother to show them in its
fonts-listing.

but... why?

And what about KDE (which i do like very much btw)..?
The KDE Control Center is provided with the very hopefull options
Desktop->Languages and InputDevices->InternationalKeybord..

But the cruel reality is that when i go to Desktop->Languages and set Greek (el)
as a second language and click on "Apply" i get the message "Changed language
settings apply only to newly started applications. To change the language of all
programs, you will have to logout first." and thus the change is not applied (no
matter if you do "logout first").

All of the same, when i go to InputDevices->InternationalKeybord and go so far
as to actually add "El1 Language: Greek. Charset: iso8859-7. Hellenic Keyboard
(Latin-1 keysyms corresponding to ISO8859-7 indexes)" i see no difference, i get
no language indication (and of course the "switch" key-combination doesn't do
anything)..

Ok..ok.. maybe some other utility you'd suggest. Indeed, it was some months ago
that Giorgos Keramydas in this very list, suggested GRkbd-1.3.2. I've downloaded
it and installed it and it appears to work.. I'm now able of switching my
keyboard to greek but what's the use of it when my editors (like i've already
mentioned) won't use the installed, greek fonts..? I only get gibberish (a very
common sight to a greek user) like: Ć¬Ć„Ć£ĆœĆ«ĆÆĆ² Ć¬Ć°Ć„Ć«ĆœĆ² ƱƄ Ć”Ć¤Ć„Ć±Ć¶Ć..

It may be that i'm missing the obvious and still it may be that the obvious is
not obvious at all. Computers are english speaking and that's ok but one should
be able of using his native language without much effort..

Any suggestion is welcome..
I'm using freebsd 4.2 and kde 1.1.2

thanks,
dimitri

ps> M$'s greek support is fine and easy and i think that will always be a great
drawback for the average greek user to ever quit M$ for unix..


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----- Original Message -----
From: Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu>
To: Brent <bierblb@netins.net>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
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Subject: Re: Installworld (HELP!!)


> On Monday January 22, 2001 23:29, Brent wrote:
> > Hey everyone.
>
> Hey back :-)
>
> > I have just upgraded from 4.0-RELEASE to 4.2-RELEASE via make
> > installworld, and it it now done, but now I can getting these types
> > of errors, why is this?
> >
> > "bash-2.03$ w
> > 10:26PM  up 31 days,  3:14, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.06
> > USER             TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
> > w: proc size mismatch (51156 total, 1056 chunks): Undefined error: 0"
> >
> > and
> >
> > "bash-2.03$ top
> > kvm_open: proc size mismatch (54288 total, 1056 chunks)
> > top: Out of memory."
> >
> > I haven't recompiled the kernel yet,
>
> I think you've answered your question.
> Rebuild your kernel and the errors should go away.
>
> > because I was told I could wait for that.
>
> Yeah, you can wait, just not very long.  And you can't do much in the
> in-between  :)
> You can wait in the sense that they (build world and
> buildkernel/installkernel) don't have to be done at the exact same
> time, but they do both have to be done.
> This is one of the advantages of the BSD development style, that the
> kernel is developed with the rest to work tightly together.
>
> > Does anyone have an idea why this is doing this?  If a
> > restart is in order - would it be safe (not at the server site)
>
> I would guess you would want to build the kernel first?  I just follow
> what it says in the handbook chapter 19.4 to the letter.
>
> Tim

Someone help me out if I have my head stuck firmly up my nether regions, but
from Brent's first post it isn't clear to me whether he did a make world.

After updating the sources the following three things need to be done:

#make world
#make buildworld KERNEL=MYKERNEL
#make installworld KERNEL=MYKERNEL
reboot

This sequence DOES compile the kernel, does it not?  Please let me know if I
am mistaken.  I used to think that I knew what was going on, but after the
recent discussion of the different ways to compile a new kernel, I am not
sure anymore.

Josh




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Hi!

One of my FreeBSD machines is highly unstable and
is co-located at an ISP. I don't have the time this
week to fix the problems or upgrade the hardware so
I want to add a cronjob with 'reboot' every 24 hours.
Is it allowed (for the root user) to add /sbin/reboot 
as a cronjob ? Or are their other alternatives ?

With regards,
Bart Pustjens



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>>> Odhiambo Washington <wash@iconnect.co.ke> 23/01/01 >>>
* Donald Orbin <OrbinDRH@elec.durban.gov.za> [20010123 15:34]: writing on =
the subject 'ppp + dialing different numbers'
Donald> I hope this message is coming to the right place... all my other =
searches have been futile.
Donald>=20
Donald> I am wanting to use the autodial feature to:
Donald> i)  Dial number A if the destination ip address is 1.2.3.4
Donald> ii) Dial number B if the destination ip address is anything else
Donald>=20
Donald> ie. the BSD box must connect (dial) a certain sserver if a packet =
to that machine is encountered; or dial an isp number if any other ips are =
encountered.
Donald>=20
Donald> Regards
Donald> Donald

I may be wrong and daft but I think this is an unrealistic implementation =
without
anything in mind to be achieved. Why am I thinking this way?

o Packets will be sent all the time, right? So which packets do you 'put =
on hold' (how
  do you prioritize?)
o A connection is already made because there are packets destined to =
1.2.3.4 and it is=20
  a 2MB file - is it not logical that the server has to wait till  the 2MB =
is sent?

Looks like you're looking for what the advanced guys call OSPF (Open =
Shortest Path
First??) Just build a ppp gateway and install ZEBRA from the ports as your =
routing
daemon - and configure it -

_else_ try to give us more light on your intentions.


-Wash

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The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. The opposite of =
a=20
profound truth may well be another profound truth. -Niels Bohr=20

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D

You have raised an interesting point re. the server being put on "hold".  =
But here are a few more details which illustrate that this condition will =
be rare (if it ever happens).

The intention is for the bsd box to act a s a proxy/firewall/router in a =
small office environment (with =B16 windoze machines connected to the =
local network).  If any of the machines requests some info from an =
unrecognised ip, it can be assumed that the info is obtainable via the =
isp... except in the instance when the "other" ip address is queried.

The "other" ip address is basically an offsite backup server.  So the only =
time that this should be contacted is when :
i) after hours, when a timed event prepares the files and is required to =
transfer them to the backup server;
ii) if someone wants to retrieve (or backup) files right NOW!

Let me be fussy now by saying that the logic behind my requirement should =
be clever enough to tell the web-surfer that his site is unavailable in =
the instance that there is already connection to the backup server... and =
vice-versa.

Thanx for the pointer to Zebra... I'll check it out.

D



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ElkVixen wrote:
> 
> I would like to know if it's possible to install two
> routers on a freebsd system, which is acting as a
> router for the clients on my network.
> 
> What I want to do is "split" the traffic from the
> clients going out on to the Internet through the two
> ADSL routers, so all traffic requested from the
> clients via port 21 and 80 goes through one ADSL and
> the rest of the traffic goes via the other router.
> 
> Cx = Clients on the network
> Rx = The ADSL routers
> B  = The BSD router
> 
>                 21, 80
> C1 --|        |------- R1
>      |--- B --|
> c2 --|        |------- R2
> 
> R1 is on ed1
> R2 is on ed0
> The network is connected via the ed1 also, but I can
> put it on a seperate NIC lnc0
> 
> I have two seperate External IP addresses. One for
> each ADSL.
> 
> I'm using NATD and ipfw to route via one of the
> routers.
> Also I can change the default router, so I change
> between them, but that still leaves one adsl unused.
> 
> Is there anyway to do this?
> 
> Kristian Hald
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If that is the case, then may I suggest using squid? You could run natd,
(or whatever you're currently running... making a general assumption
here), on the interface which you want to be able to access everything
from except port 80/21. Then just run squid on the other interface. This
will setup a networked http/ftp cache, which will not only allow you to
'route' only http/ftp traffic, but also cache the traffic and save on
bandwidth. dependant upon the installation, caching can save sometimes
30-50% of your bandwidth. I've been running a 1Gig cache here now for
like almost 8months, and it's made a HUGE difference; not to mention
made things a little more secure :)
	Of course, I suppose if you wanted just strict routing, you could still
just setup some simple IPFW rules to disallow port 80/21 on one
interface, and nothing but on the other. However, if by 'routing 21',
you intend to allow you're LAN access to FTP sites, then you may want to
do some reading up on FTP. FTP once connected, uses many ports to
communicate.

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* Bart Pustjens <skin@takeover.lion-access.net> [20010123 17:29]: writing on the subject 'reboot'
Bart> 
Bart> Hi!
Bart> 
Bart> One of my FreeBSD machines is highly unstable and
Bart> is co-located at an ISP. I don't have the time this
Bart> week to fix the problems or upgrade the hardware so
Bart> I want to add a cronjob with 'reboot' every 24 hours.
Bart> Is it allowed (for the root user) to add /sbin/reboot 
Bart> as a cronjob ? Or are their other alternatives ?

What is the need for a reboot. maybe you can just give a rogue 
process a HUP every 24 hours....
But i still "SUSPECT" /sbin/shutdown -r can still be done via cron.


-Wash

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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Odhiambo Washington wrote:

> * Bart Pustjens <skin@takeover.lion-access.net> [20010123 17:29]: writing on the subject 'reboot'
> Bart> One of my FreeBSD machines is highly unstable and
> Bart> is co-located at an ISP. I don't have the time this
> Bart> week to fix the problems or upgrade the hardware so
> Bart> I want to add a cronjob with 'reboot' every 24 hours.
> Bart> Is it allowed (for the root user) to add /sbin/reboot 
> Bart> as a cronjob ? Or are their other alternatives ?
> 
> What is the need for a reboot. 

Sometimes the machine goes completely dead (not
pingable) and sometimes I can ping the machine and
connect to a daemon but nothing happens after that.

> maybe you can just give a rogue process a HUP every 24 hours....

Could be an option if I had one specific problem...

> But i still "SUSPECT" /sbin/shutdown -r can still be done via cron.

Gonna use/try that till the end of the week and fix
the problem for good (kick out the NIC, upgrade to 4.2
and add some RAM).

With regards,
Bart



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On Tuesday January 23, 2001 07:55, you wrote:

> Any suggestions about partitioning welcome. Currently planning to
> have either root, usr and home, or just root and home. But the main

Current advice is for a home user to have just one partition plus swap. 
That way you don't waste space on some partition and run out of it on 
others.  The only advantages to having more than one partition is that 
you can set different permissions/attributes on each, and that if one 
filesystem crashes you may be able to save what is on the others.  
Recent discussion is that ffs is stable enough and backups should be 
made anyway that that is not as much of a concern now.
	If you have important firewall or other logs then you would want var 
as a partition of its own so you could protect it and back it up 
separately.  That brings up one more use of more partitions.   If you 
have partitions the size of your backup tapes, say 10gb or whatever, it 
makes the backup a little easier.  Home users don't often have backup 
tapes, so that isn't always necessary.
	Personally I like to have root as it's own partition and usr 
(including var) as another.

> reason I send this query is regarding building the ports collection.
> I have access to a fast Internet connection at the university but the
> connection for my PC itself is a 9.6 Kbps GSM using a mobile phone
> (so I have rather non-standard hardwares including an Elan P-series
> desktop PCMCIA reader - part of the reason I'm abandoning Linux is
> the mess they have made with PCMCI support recently). Let me detail
> my current plan.
>
> 1. Install 4.2-RELEASE
> 2. Download latest ports tgz in computer room, burn to CD
> 3. Install ports

If you have the 4.2-R CD the ports tree is on it and you can install it 
as an option during sysinstall.  There are ISO's available if you can't 
afford the CD, though buying the CD helps the project.

> 2. Use CVSup (set up CTM for later regular use) to sync with
> 4.2-STABLE and sync the ports tree 3. make World in /usr/src
> 4. recompile kernel
> 5. test

That is the standard way.  Just make sure to read chapter 19 of the 
handbook and /usr/src/UPDATING
The other way to do this is you could download a snapshot and figure 
out how to install it.  That way you could download the stable snapshot 
in the Uni computer lab, burn it to cd and install/upgrade to /stable 
like that.  That would avoid the large cvsup download traffic over the 
GSM phone.
	The other way is you could download the entire -stable src tree in the 
computer lab, burn it and install that.  Then follow the make world 
procedure.  That would also avoid the download over the GSM phone.  You 
can get the stable source by downloading all the files in:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/src
then you would have to put each one of those in the right spots.  There 
may be a better way to download the latest src tree as one large 
gzipped file, but I don't know.


> 6. *this is the biggie*. In /usr/ports, do 'make fetch-list', copy
> the list to floppy, download all the files in the list in the
> computer room and transfer in CD-Rs. 7. Build ports

I can't see the need to build all the ports.  Why not just download the 
distfiles of the ports you want and transfer them over to yout machine 
and build those.  A quick way to tell the dependencies is to run a 
make clean   in the specific port dir to tell what the port cleans up.  
then you need to download the distfiles for al those.
	I'm quite sure that if you built all 4500 ports, it would be way over 
20GB.  You would have better luck looking through the ports on the 
website to see the descriptions and just getting what you want.

>
> This raises some questions.
> 1. How much space to allocate for the ports' sources? My new hard
> disk is 20 Gig, planning to use it for FreeBSD, Linux, BeOS and QNX.
> Old hard disk for Windows and Solaris. Oops, flame bait :). I am
> thinking of having a shared partition for use by FreeBSD and Linux...
> perhaps ext2 since Linux's ufs support is not certified stable?

Yeah well same with ext2 support in FreeBSD.   Nice eh?


						Tim


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Try to use another boot manager. I suggest to use UNILOAD. You can check if
it works for your PC just install it on floppy and then bootstrap from
floppy. If everything works, i.e. you can boot Windows and FreeBSD, you can
install it in MBR. Please use install.exe program from DOS, because FreeBSD
and Linux port for UNILOAD is seemed to be out of date, and should be fixed
for newest version of FreeBSD and Linux then versions for which I created
port of UNILOAD. I haven't time to do it now.

You can download this boot manager from http://www.simon.org.ua/uniload/


Ani D <aneroid@subdimension.com> wrote in message
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> hi
> i've got two hard disks. 4.2GB and 2.1GB. ad0 and ad2 (as shown in the
> freebsd install). now, i have windows on ad0 and want to install freebsd
> on ad2. when it asks me on which drive i want to install freebsd, i say
> ad2 and it takes me to a screen where it shows the partition info of
> ad2. that was the simple part. at this point it hasn't asked me to give
> the filesystem breakup info.
>
> next, it asks wether i want to install the freebsd boot manager in the
> mbr or standard boot loader or whatever. i choose the  first option and
> then it asks on which disk. ad2 is already checked (probably because of
> the last step) here, i need need the boot loader in the mbr. so that's
> on ad0. so i uncheck ad2 and say ad0. but then it asks me to give the
> filesystem info like where to put swap, the native slice, etc. thing
> is...it automatically choses ad0 for the filesystem. how do i change
> this? when i go back and come to the bootmanager question and chose the
> first option, it directly takes me to the screen where i have to set up
> the filesystem structure. here, is there any way i can indicate that it
> has to be on ad2?
>
> where do i indicate which partition is bootable? when i said ad0 (on my
> last attempt) i got a boot loader that can load windows but chosing
> freebsd lands me at the boot prompt.
>
> what do i do?
>
> thanks
> ani d
>
>
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Jan, do you have a simple script which will read a cTree db file and
output it to ascii format? (i will buy the ctree program if i have to but
this is all i need done.)

 On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote:

> cTree is indeed a Faircom product.
> Check http://www.faircom.com/
> We actually do use cTree for file indexing under FreeBSD as well as 
> other platforms.
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Rowlands wrote:
> 
> > On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:14, Domain Administrator wrote:
> > 
> >> I now this is not the right place to post it but i know how smart the
> >> people are on this list and feel i can get an answer!
> >> 
> >> I have a CTREE database file, i think CTREE is created with C++ libs but im
> >> not sure. I have a Database in ctree and it consists of two files:
> >> 
> >> -rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    238167118 Jan 21 10:17 users.dat
> >> -rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    10354688 Jan 21 10:17 users.idx
> >> 
> >> Now, when i run 'file <filename>' it just reports the file as being data so
> >> i assume that this type of database file is hardly ever used or not just
> >> commonplace.
> >> 
> >> # file users.dat
> >> users.dat:      data
> >> # file users.idx
> >> users.idx:      data
> >> 
> >> Does anyone know how i can get support for this on my freebsd box so i can
> >> somehow convert this database file into an ascii, comma delimited text file
> >> and into something more common.
> >> 
> >> Thanks in advance for the help.
> >> 
> > 
> > Faircom sell a freebsd version of ctree ;-)
> > 
> > 
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On Tuesday January 23, 2001 09:24, Josh Paetzel wrote:
>
> > On Monday January 22, 2001 23:29, Brent wrote:
> > > I have just upgraded from 4.0-RELEASE to 4.2-RELEASE via make
> > > installworld, and it it now done, but now I can getting these
> > > types of errors, why is this?
> > > I haven't recompiled the kernel yet,
> >
> > I think you've answered your question.
> > Rebuild your kernel and the errors should go away.
> >
> > > because I was told I could wait for that.
> >
> > Yeah, you can wait, just not very long.  And you can't do much in
> > the in-between  :)
> > You can wait in the sense that they (build world and
> > buildkernel/installkernel) don't have to be done at the exact same
> > time, but they do both have to be done.
> >
> > I would guess you would want to build the kernel first?  I just
> > follow what it says in the handbook chapter 19.4 to the letter.
> >
> > Tim
>
> Someone help me out if I have my head stuck firmly up my nether
> regions, but from Brent's first post it isn't clear to me whether he
> did a make world.

Read chapter 19 of the handbook again.
Make world is the overall make target.  It was split up into make 
buildworld and make installworld, because install world can be 
dangerous on a multiuser machine.  So dropping down to single user to 
do installworld results in less downtime than doing the whole thing in 
single user mode.

>
> After updating the sources the following three things need to be
> done:
>
> #make world

You are mixing and matching build targets.

> #make buildworld KERNEL=MYKERNEL
> #make installworld KERNEL=MYKERNEL

These are incorrect.   For rebuilding a kernel after updating sources 
and a build world, the correct commands are:
# cd /usr/src
# make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
# make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL

These are from chapter 7 of the handboook.


> This sequence DOES compile the kernel, does it not?  Please let me
> know if I am mistaken.  

It does if you specify the buildkernel/installkernel targets.   You 
were close, just the wrong targets.

> I used to think that I knew what was going
> on, but after the recent discussion of the different ways to compile
> a new kernel, I am not sure anymore.

	The only confusion is that there are two methods of building the 
kernel. One is used when the source tree has not been updated, the 
other is used when it has.  That is written in the appropriate section 
in chapter 7, but many people miss it.

						Tim



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Hi Caleb,

> I am wondering what the best way to redirect all mail that gets sent to
root to
> get sent to my other user which is cwalker.  I am not sure but, setting up
> an alias in the alias file doesnt seem like a good idea.  If it is let me
know.

I think you can also create a file named ".forward" in your rootĀ“s home
directory, which has the mail address, you want all mails to be forwarded
to, as the only line in it. A long time I used this, so IĀ“m not completely
sure, if it was on a FreeBSD system. At least it was on a Unix of some
flavor, hope it still works :-)

Ciao
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Please help to install mysql323-server.
I do "make" and successfully come through the extracting step, patching
step and configure step. In any case  I see files .extract_done,
.patch_done and .configure_done in work directory. But compilation
doesn't start - "cannot open Makefile" - really Makefile was not created
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I tried to create it "manually" - by ./configure - it is OK - ant then
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But when I do "make install" it again stopped now with an error
"Generating temporary packing list.
Missing package files for mysql-3.23.31".

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One big diffrence I have discovered is that SUSE and Debian users 
appear to be much smarter that the Red Hat weenies, who apparently haven't 
figured out that this rpc.statd exploit, which will make many Red Hat machines 
wide open to being rooted, just doesn't work on FreeBSD. I have yet to point 
Netcraft ( or other methods ) back at one of these silly bastards and not find 
out that they are Red Hat propeller-heads. 

So, Linux -vs- FreeBSD? depending of what you're doing either may be suitable,
Just don't do stupid things with it.  And remember that the Silly Red Hat
is NOT impervious to the LART stick, or the Louisville Slugger.


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Yes, this is valid in freebsd.  Create a file in your /root directory=20
called .forward.
In this file, insert any email addresses you wish to have the mail=20
forwarded too.
Done


At 04:32 PM 23/01/01 +0100, Siegbert Baude wrote:
>Hi Caleb,
>
> > I am wondering what the best way to redirect all mail that gets sent to
>root to
> > get sent to my other user which is cwalker.  I am not sure but, setting=
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> > an alias in the alias file doesnt seem like a good idea.  If it is let=
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>know.
>
>I think you can also create a file named ".forward" in your root=B4s home
>directory, which has the mail address, you want all mails to be forwarded
>to, as the only line in it. A long time I used this, so I=B4m not=
 completely
>sure, if it was on a FreeBSD system. At least it was on a Unix of some
>flavor, hope it still works :-)
>
>Ciao
>Siegbert
>
>
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Yes, this is valid in freebsd.&nbsp; Create a file in your /root
directory called .forward.<br>
In this file, insert any email addresses you wish to have the mail
forwarded too.<br>
Done<br>
<br>
<br>
At 04:32 PM 23/01/01 +0100, Siegbert Baude wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite>Hi Caleb,<br>
<br>
&gt; I am wondering what the best way to redirect all mail that gets sent
to<br>
root to<br>
&gt; get sent to my other user which is cwalker.&nbsp; I am not sure but,
setting up<br>
&gt; an alias in the alias file doesnt seem like a good idea.&nbsp; If it
is let me<br>
know.<br>
<br>
I think you can also create a file named &quot;.forward&quot; in your
root=B4s home<br>
directory, which has the mail address, you want all mails to be
forwarded<br>
to, as the only line in it. A long time I used this, so I=B4m not
completely<br>
sure, if it was on a FreeBSD system. At least it was on a Unix of
some<br>
flavor, hope it still works :-)<br>
<br>
Ciao<br>
Siegbert<br>
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* Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> [20010123 18:03]: writing on the subject 'Re: Query about planned install'
Tim> On Tuesday January 23, 2001 07:55, you wrote:

Tim> > 6. *this is the biggie*. In /usr/ports, do 'make fetch-list', copy
Tim> > the list to floppy, download all the files in the list in the
Tim> > computer room and transfer in CD-Rs. 7. Build ports
Tim> 
Tim> I can't see the need to build all the ports.  Why not just download the 
Tim> distfiles of the ports you want and transfer them over to yout machine 
Tim> and build those.  A quick way to tell the dependencies is to run a 
Tim> make clean   in the specific port dir to tell what the port cleans up.  

You can also give the cmmd  

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> Hi Caleb,
> 
> > I am wondering what the best way to redirect all mail that gets sent to
> root to
> > get sent to my other user which is cwalker.  I am not sure but,
setting>  up
> > an alias in the alias file doesnt seem like a good idea.  If it is let
> me
> know.
> 
> I think you can also create a file named ".forward" in your rootĀ“s home
> directory, which has the mail address, you want all mails to be forwarded
> to, as the only line in it. A long time I used this, so IĀ“m not
complet> ely
> sure, if it was on a FreeBSD system. At least it was on a Unix of some
> flavor, hope it still works :-)
> 
Didn't you get answers to this earlier ?
Use an entry in the aliase's file .. a la the advice written at the
top of it ! I am curiou sto know why you think it is a bad idea..

Cliff



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 I have thesame problem even though I am in 42_STABLE and I do have
 RELENG_4 in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/4.x-stable-supfile.
 I have made the last world on January the 8th and I am unable
 to upgrade /usr/src ever since
 sincerely
 Filippo


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RW <simakin@rw.ru> types:
> Hello!
>  Does FreeBSD can succefully use dual Intel processor?

Yes.

>  Can I separate tasks between different CPUs?

I'm not sure what you're asking.  You can't specify which CPU a task
winds up on, or which tasks wind up on different CPUs. You can break
your computing job up into tasks however you want to, but the system
will decide which tasks run on which CPU.

>  Please, point me, where i can read more information about
> multiprocessor support in FreeBSD.

Try searching the freebsd web site for "SMP".

>  I need to decide, what hardware i have to buy.

The motherboard must follow the Intel MP spec, version 1.4. Nothing
else is supported.

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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 10:48:50AM -0500, FreeBSD Mailing List Info wrote:
> One big diffrence I have discovered is that SUSE and Debian users 
> appear to be much smarter that the Red Hat weenies, who apparently haven't 
> figured out that this rpc.statd exploit, which will make many Red Hat machines 
> wide open to being rooted, just doesn't work on FreeBSD. I have yet to point 
> Netcraft ( or other methods ) back at one of these silly bastards and not find 
> out that they are Red Hat propeller-heads. 
[...]
> Jan 23 01:06:33 not_a_linux_weenie /kernel: ipfw: X000 Count TCP 204.185.158.217:4808 XXX.XXX.XXX.X:111 in via mx0

Is that what all the recent activity has been about on port 111? Of late
I'm getting hit on 111 more often than even 27374.

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Hi Cliff,

> Didn't you get answers to this earlier ?
Yes, I did. And in one of them stood, that the author didnĀ“t know about
other solutions. So I just added a different one.

> Use an entry in the aliase's file .. a la the advice written at the
> top of it ! I am curiou sto know why you think it is a bad idea..

I donĀ“t think alias is a bad idea (and only to prevent any people, reading
the archives in the future, that there is at least one guy with this
opinion, IĀ“m posting this to both the list and you). Pluralism is a nice
thing anyway, isnĀ“t it?

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> Hi Cliff,
> 
> > Didn't you get answers to this earlier ?
> Yes, I did. And in one of them stood, that the author didnĀ“t know about
> other solutions. So I just added a different one.
> 
> > Use an entry in the aliase's file .. a la the advice written at the
> > top of it ! I am curiou sto know why you think it is a bad idea..
> 
> I donĀ“t think alias is a bad idea (and only to prevent any people,
read> ing
> the archives in the future, that there is at least one guy with this
> opinion, IĀ“m posting this to both the list and you). Pluralism is a
nic> e
> thing anyway, isnĀ“t it?

Oh of course. As they say in England "there is more than one way to skin a cat".
I was just curious about why someone would think a .forward file is
safer than an alias... well, there are millions of things I will never know,
I will just add that to the list of them :)

Cliff



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cliff Sarginson [mailto:cliff@raggedclown.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:03 PM
> To: Siegbert Baude; Cliff Sarginson; questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: redirecting mail from root to another user...
>=20
>=20
> > Hi Cliff,
> >=20
> > > Didn't you get answers to this earlier ?
> > Yes, I did. And in one of them stood, that the author=20
> didn=B4t know about
> > other solutions. So I just added a different one.
> >=20
> > > Use an entry in the aliase's file .. a la the advice=20
> written at the
> > > top of it ! I am curiou sto know why you think it is a bad idea..
> >=20
> > I don=B4t think alias is a bad idea (and only to prevent any =
people,
> read> ing
> > the archives in the future, that there is at least one guy with =
this
> > opinion, I=B4m posting this to both the list and you). Pluralism is =
a
> nic> e
> > thing anyway, isn=B4t it?
>=20
> Oh of course. As they say in England "there is more than one=20
> way to skin a cat".
> I was just curious about why someone would think a .forward file is
> safer than an alias... well, there are millions of things I=20
> will never know,
> I will just add that to the list of them :)
>=20
> Cliff

I'm not saying a .forward file is safer than an alias. I'm just
typing in what I did to do this.  Easy, painless and does the job.

PeTe


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Hi Folks,

Hi How do I mount a cdrom?
I have FreeBSD Version 4.1.
It seems I'm missing the libc.so.5 library file and I want to extract it
from my cdrom.

Joe Astrologo
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This is an easy one - sftp. It is included in every distribution of ssh that
I've seen, and works just like traditional ftp. If you go with sftp2 (ssh2),
then you have a pretty darn secure daemon. A number of Windows clients even
include the functionality. I use SSH's SSH2 program and it comes with a
fairly useful, if no frills, FTP program. The only downside is that few
normal programs can interact with it - you have to have an sftp type program
to communicate. This isn't necessarily a problem, unless you have users who
are using non secure ftp programs.

If you are, then you can still wrap ftp, and at least limit your exposure.

Seth Henry
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Date: 22 Jan 2001 18:32:25 -0500
From: Arcady Genkin <antipode@thpoon.com>
Subject: Losing FTP (last step to security)

Now that I've wrapped pop3 and IMAP in SSL, my last unsecure service
is FTP.  What are people using as a replacement to transfer files?
I am particularly interested in a method that could be recommended to
my Windows users (i.e. need some graphical client for Win).

Any ideas very welcome,
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It should be:
# mount /cdrom

>-- Joe Astrologo <jastrolo@infomng.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Hi How do I mount a cdrom?
> I have FreeBSD Version 4.1.
> It seems I'm missing the libc.so.5 library file and
> I want to extract it
> from my cdrom.
> 
> Joe Astrologo
> Unix Systems Administrator
> InfoManage Corporation
> tel: (914)517-1000 X1011
> email: joe.astrologo@infomng.com
> 
> 
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> Ken Bolingbroke wrote:
>>
>> I've been running a mail/web/dns server as well as a NAT gateway on
>> a 386dx40 with 8meg RAM for several years.  One caveat is that you
>> need at least 12 meg RAM to run sysinstall on more recent versions
>> of FreeBSD, but I could do a buildworld on a faster machine, then
>> installworld on the '386 just fine.  It's recently been retired
>> from those duties and now serves as just a fax server, but it's
>> always done the job.  DNS, mail for a handful of users, and a low
>> traffic web site isn't all that demanding.  After all, this machine
>> was state-of-the art 10 years ago. :-)
>
> Even better, these older 386's and 486/33's don't need a CPU fan,
> so one less thing to get cockeyed.  And I'd trust a system that
> has lasted 10 years and was still going strong more than a
> system with only 6 months on it.

That might apply to the silicon, but it definitely doesn't apply to
moving parts such as fans (there are still fans in most power
supplies) and disk drives.
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Finding spare AT power supplies isn't too difficult, even these days. If you
do run into difficulties, and you have a Rat Shack in your neighborhood, you
can also buy a replacement fan for your PS - it's $9 at most places. I doubt
the original supply is still under warranty... ;) I did this for a friend of
mine, whose original fan choked on dust.

As for disk drives, the only problem is finding a disk that the BIOS on
those older machines will recognize. I've found that using an ISA or VESA
(remember that one?) board with a built in BIOS will get around this. Now,
there are newer boards (usually ISA) that replace the system BIOS' hard disk
calls. Of course, there are lots of ways to boot these suckers. You could
even netboot, and mount a filesystem using NFS. There is also the venerable
floppy drives, SCSI subsystems, etc.

Although I have since sold all of my 486 systems (save my Compaq laptop),
they are still quite useful. Not every application needs a firebreathing
Pentium or Athlon. The DHCP server (before the idiots in my department
starting getting ideas...) was a 486dx2-66, I believe it was an old Gateway
machine. It served faithfully for years before some knucklehead replaced it
with a PentiumII running WinNT. I started statically coding my IP's shortly
thereafter.

I would say that if you have some old 386 and 486 systems laying around, put
'em to use! They are great for cable/DSL/satellite firewalls, DHCP servers,
fax servers and any other low bandwidth duties. I use my old laptop as a
dumb terminal.

Seth Henry
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Hello users,

I have a Zoltrix RP108 FM card. Is there anyone out there who's achieved
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The evidence suggests that "Espen Oyslebo" wrote:

> I bought my SB Live Value card for about 50 bucks, thinking it was a
decent price to pay for a soundcard with a digital output. Of course,
it turned out that the digital output was an accessory, which cost me
another $30.
>
> At the time, I was running linux, and with the help of a nifty
little tool called `dm', I was able to adjust the volume settings for
the card.
>
> The same is possible in FreeBSD using `mixer', but it will not
change the digital output volume level, which is the only one I use
(and no, I don't want to have to adjust the volume on my
reciever/amp).
>
> Has anyone come across a simular problem/got any idea if it's
fixable?
>
> All I've done is to rebuild my kernel after adding `options pcm' to
it, and then do a ./MAKEDEV snd0.

Well, I can't answer your question directly.  I can tell you that my
digital out works fine with just compliing support for the sound card.
The way I thought the digital out worked was that it just provides a
digital signal based on the analog out.  It works fine with me.

On a basic audio level though, the proper way to do this would be to
set all of your outputs at line level if you are feeding a
reciever/amp and do all the volume control there.  If not you can get
gain inequalities which then can cause distortion on the output of the
amp. That is unless you are using a very high quality amp (e.g. Crown)
which uses the volume control in a different fashion then others would
use it.

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Thank you, Mike!

I try to explain my question - can I tell to process (apache, for
example) to work only on first (or second) CPU?
Does it possible to execute something like
     /usr/local/sbin/snmpd &2  # using second CPU
or like this
     cpu_manager cpu=2 process=/usr/local/sbin/snmpd
May be stupid example, but in NT we can point to services on which cpu
they must run.

>>  Can I separate tasks between different CPUs?
MM> I'm not sure what you're asking.  You can't specify which CPU a task
MM> winds up on, or which tasks wind up on different CPUs. You can break
MM> your computing job up into tasks however you want to, but the system
MM> will decide which tasks run on which CPU.




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Yep, from copious use of UTSL[ 1 ], the rpc.statd(8) manpage, the red-hat-weenie 
web site (www.redhat.com/support/erratta/RHSA-2000-043-03.html), the particle 
physics guys ( www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2000-17.html), and an old usenet-
archived message from  one of our own highly esteemed community, 
( archives.neohapsis.com/freebsd/2000-08/0163.html), I sort-of came to
the conclusion that my portmapper and rpc ports should be monitored for
a while.  Thus  I'm pretty sure that's what's filling up the logs. 

The FreeBSD art I'd like to see is Chuck roasting Tux on the end of
the pitchfork, over a stack of burining $Msoft cd-roms and red hats.
Hmm, dinner, roast pengin-kabob , then back to work. [ 2 ]. 

[ 1 ]. Use The Source, Luke.
[ 2 ]. Although, I have to admit, some of the tiny embedded Linux solutions
seem to pretty good, so maybe Chuck doesn't eat the hors d'ouvres. 

>
>On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 10:48:50AM -0500, FreeBSD Mailing List Info wrote:
>> One big diffrence I have discovered is that SUSE and Debian users 
>> appear to be much smarter that the Red Hat weenies, who apparently haven't 
>> figured out that this rpc.statd exploit, which will make many Red Hat machines 
>> wide open to being rooted, just doesn't work on FreeBSD. I have yet to point 
>> Netcraft ( or other methods ) back at one of these silly bastards and not find 
>> out that they are Red Hat propeller-heads. 
>[...]
>> Jan 23 01:06:33 not_a_linux_weenie /kernel: ipfw: X000 Count TCP 204.185.158.217:4808 XXX.XXX.XXX.X:111 in via mx0
>
>Is that what all the recent activity has been about on port 111? Of late
>I'm getting hit on 111 more often than even 27374.
>
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I have printed something.  Now I don't want it to print.
There is nothing listed with "lpq"
There is no print job number to issue with "lprm"
I keep turning my printer off.  When it resets, it starts printing again.

There must be some kind of buffer in the computer memory, behind the scenes
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Any way to just kill it?


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RW <simakin@rw.ru> types:
> Thank you, Mike!
> 
> I try to explain my question - can I tell to process (apache, for
> example) to work only on first (or second) CPU?
> Does it possible to execute something like
>      /usr/local/sbin/snmpd &2  # using second CPU
> or like this
>      cpu_manager cpu=2 process=/usr/local/sbin/snmpd
> May be stupid example, but in NT we can point to services on which cpu
> they must run.

Nope, you can't do that. Given that the two processors are treated
symmetrically (that's what the S in SMP is for), why would you want to
run it on anything other than the first available CPU?

	<mike

> >>  Can I separate tasks between different CPUs?
> MM> I'm not sure what you're asking.  You can't specify which CPU a task
> MM> winds up on, or which tasks wind up on different CPUs. You can break
> MM> your computing job up into tasks however you want to, but the system
> MM> will decide which tasks run on which CPU.
> 
> 
> 
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Hi. I was following this discussion and had a question. Is there a
utility, like osview on Solaris, which lets you look at CPU utilization,
load, etc?

Thanks,

Prakash

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Mike Meyer wrote:

> RW <simakin@rw.ru> types:
> > Thank you, Mike!
> > 
> > I try to explain my question - can I tell to process (apache, for
> > example) to work only on first (or second) CPU?
> > Does it possible to execute something like
> >      /usr/local/sbin/snmpd &2  # using second CPU
> > or like this
> >      cpu_manager cpu=2 process=/usr/local/sbin/snmpd
> > May be stupid example, but in NT we can point to services on which cpu
> > they must run.
> 
> Nope, you can't do that. Given that the two processors are treated
> symmetrically (that's what the S in SMP is for), why would you want to
> run it on anything other than the first available CPU?
> 
> 	<mike
> 
> > >>  Can I separate tasks between different CPUs?
> > MM> I'm not sure what you're asking.  You can't specify which CPU a task
> > MM> winds up on, or which tasks wind up on different CPUs. You can break
> > MM> your computing job up into tasks however you want to, but the system
> > MM> will decide which tasks run on which CPU.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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     Hi:
     
     I believe there may be a problem with the vinum startup commands in 
     /etc/rc.   Whenever I drop (my host) down to Single User mode, the 
     vinum daemon is not stopped - which appears to be OK although FreeBSD 
     does issue a warning.   When returning (my host) to Multi User mode, 
     /etc/rc performs another "vinum start", AND THE VINUM DAEMON IS STILL 
     RUNNING!   Vinum does not seem to like this (being started twice) and 
     appears to causes the vinum disks to assume a "down" state.   I 
     mistakenly tried to start these disks individually and subsequently 
     corrupted a few subdisks which caused me to trash my file system.   
     (I've gotta be more careful with these vinum commands in the future!!)
     
     I've not seen any comments about this issue, only the usual 
     start_vinum="YES" line in /etc/rc.conf.   Should "/etc/rc" perform a 
     process table check to ensure that the vinum daemon is NOT active 
     prior to performing the "vinum start" command?  Is there a special 
     "vinum" option that protect against recursive "vinum start(s)"?   
     Should all vinum file systems be unmounted when dropping to Single 
     User mode so that the vinum daemon can be (will be) stopped?  
     
     Thanks
     
     Marc


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Hi. I was following this discussion and had a question. Is there a
utility, like osview on Solaris, which lets you look at CPU
utilization,
load, etc?

Thanks,

Prakash

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Mike Meyer wrote:

> RW <simakin@rw.ru> types:
> > Thank you, Mike!
> > 
> > I try to explain my question - can I tell to process (apache, for
> > example) to work only on first (or second) CPU?
> > Does it possible to execute something like
> >      /usr/local/sbin/snmpd &2  # using second CPU
> > or like this
> >      cpu_manager cpu=2 process=/usr/local/sbin/snmpd
> > May be stupid example, but in NT we can point to services on
> > which cpu they must run.
> 
> Nope, you can't do that. Given that the two processors are treated
> symmetrically (that's what the S in SMP is for), why would you want
> to run it on anything other than the first available CPU?
> 
> 	<mike
> 
> > >>  Can I separate tasks between different CPUs?
> > MM> I'm not sure what you're asking.  You can't specify which CPU
> > a task MM> winds up on, or which tasks wind up on different CPUs.
> > You can break MM> your computing job up into tasks however you
> > want to, but the system MM> will decide which tasks run on which
> > CPU.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> --
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> Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more
> information.  
> 
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Viswanathan Prakash <prakash@ccs.neu.edu> types:
> 
> Hi. I was following this discussion and had a question. Is there a
> utility, like osview on Solaris, which lets you look at CPU utilization,
> load, etc?

There are a number of them. Dan mentioned top, and there's gkrellm and
xosview in the ports.

However, FreeBDS does not track usage information per-CPU, just for
the system as a whole.

	<mike


> Thanks,
> 
> Prakash
> 
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Mike Meyer wrote:
> 
> > RW <simakin@rw.ru> types:
> > > Thank you, Mike!
> > > 
> > > I try to explain my question - can I tell to process (apache, for
> > > example) to work only on first (or second) CPU?
> > > Does it possible to execute something like
> > >      /usr/local/sbin/snmpd &2  # using second CPU
> > > or like this
> > >      cpu_manager cpu=2 process=/usr/local/sbin/snmpd
> > > May be stupid example, but in NT we can point to services on which cpu
> > > they must run.
> > 
> > Nope, you can't do that. Given that the two processors are treated
> > symmetrically (that's what the S in SMP is for), why would you want to
> > run it on anything other than the first available CPU?
> > 
> > 	<mike
> > 
> > > >>  Can I separate tasks between different CPUs?
> > > MM> I'm not sure what you're asking.  You can't specify which CPU a task
> > > MM> winds up on, or which tasks wind up on different CPUs. You can break
> > > MM> your computing job up into tasks however you want to, but the system
> > > MM> will decide which tasks run on which CPU.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > --
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> > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information.
> > 
> > 
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I have been trying for awhile to get NATD running under a PPPoE
connection.  Device dc0 is the internal network gateway, and de0 is the
outside network card.  As of right now, my rc.firewall is supposed to be
tunneling everything:
/sbin/ipfw -f flush
 /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via dc0
 /sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any
 /sbin/natd -f /etc/natd.cf

I have the ip set to 10.0.0.10 for device dc0, de0 (the network card to
the dsl modem) is 10.0.0.1, I tried putting device tun0 in natd.cf as the
interface to be aliased, but when I did that, neither the NAT machine nor
the inside machines could do anything.  Additionally, when I was using
ifconfig to set the ip of dc0 I get this error:
ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists

However, the ip of the interface does change to whatever I
entered.  But...even though the ip does change, the internal machines
cannot ping the gateway ip number (10.0.0.10).  I'm very confused and
neither the natd man page, or any tutorial I've seen are terribly
helpful.  I thought the whole process would be pretty intuitive, but I'm
having trouble.  Thanks

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I would like to replace our current Cisco Pro 1004 router with a 
FreeBSD box. The reason being, we want to move from ISDN to DSL, but 
don't particularily feel like purchasing another router if it can be 
avoided. My question I guess, is how does one setup the routing so as 
to route through an interface which does not have an IP address? The 
Cisco Pro 1004 router we have uses this configuration:

ip subnet-zero
isdn switch-type basic-ni1
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 216.94.6.25 255.255.255.248
!
interface BRI0
 ip unnumbered Ethernet0
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip route-cache

This works well, leaving the IP address '216.94.6.25' addressed to the 
ethernet port on the ISDN router, and routing through the BRI0 
interface to the default route. But to move over to DSL, I'd have to 
use PPPOE authentication. Here's what I'm thinking: ISP sets up a PPPOE 
account which assigned the IP address of the 'router', this address 
would then be bound to the NIC on the LAN side of the network. Thus 
leaving the actual NIC which carries the PPPOE connection unbound to a 
specific IP address; I would then have to do something like: route add 
0.0.0.0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and route add xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ed1, (where ed1 
is the PPPOE interface). This would mimmick the setup of the Cisco 
router currently implemented, but would it work? If so, how does one 
actually configure the FreeBSD machine to bring up a link on a NIC, but 
not bind it to an address?

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I would like to replace our current Cisco Pro 1004 router with a 
FreeBSD box. The reason being, we want to move from ISDN to DSL, but 
don't particularily feel like purchasing another router if it can be 
avoided. My question I guess, is how does one setup the routing so as 
to route through an interface which does not have an IP address? The 
Cisco Pro 1004 router we have uses this configuration:

ip subnet-zero
isdn switch-type basic-ni1
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 216.94.6.25 255.255.255.248
!
interface BRI0
 ip unnumbered Ethernet0
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip route-cache

This works well, leaving the IP address '216.94.6.25' addressed to the 
ethernet port on the ISDN router, and routing through the BRI0 
interface to the default route. But to move over to DSL, I'd have to 
use PPPOE authentication. Here's what I'm thinking: ISP sets up a PPPOE 
account which assigned the IP address of the 'router', this address 
would then be bound to the NIC on the LAN side of the network. Thus 
leaving the actual NIC which carries the PPPOE connection unbound to a 
specific IP address; I would then have to do something like: route add 
0.0.0.0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and route add xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ed1, (where ed1 
is the PPPOE interface). This would mimmick the setup of the Cisco 
router currently implemented, but would it work? If so, how does one 
actually configure the FreeBSD machine to bring up a link on a NIC, but 
not bind it to an address?

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I just had to make world because of the ports tree being out of date, and
everything went like a charm.  I rebuilt the kernel with exactly the same
options I had before, and no problems.  However, now any X applications
take much longer to load than before the make world.  I have an amd k6-2
450, and netscape takes approximately 4 times as long for the window to
show as before the make world.  Load is very low, no memory problems, and
I'm pretty clueless about this.  I realize this is pretty vague, but its
all I could think of.   Perhaps unrelated or not, on boot I get a strange
vi problem.  Didn't show up in dmesg, so I'll try to copy and paste itas
soon as I reboot, but it looks like this:
vi recovering editor sessions

And sits like this for about 10 minutes until the user prompt comes
up.   I realize that vi can have to recover editor sessions, but I didn't
leave any vi editor sessions open, and I'm pretty sure I didn't abnormally
close vi.  Is there some cache of vi sessions I need to flush?  Anyway,
thanks.

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I'm guessing it's buffer memory in the printer that keeps re-issuing
the job.  Turning off the printer from the switch might not do the
trick, try unplugging it so the printer actually loses power.

David Banning wrote:
> 
> I have printed something.  Now I don't want it to print.
> There is nothing listed with "lpq"
> There is no print job number to issue with "lprm"
> I keep turning my printer off.  When it resets, it starts printing again.
> 
> There must be some kind of buffer in the computer memory, behind the scenes
> feeding this stuff to the printer.
> 
> Any way to just kill it?
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No. Top just prints the process details.

osview on Solaris shows (as one of its options) all the CPUs
with their registers, % utilisation, etc. side by side. I received an
email from Mike just as I was sending this one. I'l look at the ports he
talked about before ranting any more.

Thanks a lot guys,

Prakash

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> 
> - -----Original Message-----
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> Prakash
> Sent: 23 January 2001 16:53
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> Cc: simakin; questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: dual CPU under FreeBSD - does it really good
> thing?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi. I was following this discussion and had a question. Is there a
> utility, like osview on Solaris, which lets you look at CPU
> utilization,
> load, etc?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Prakash
> 
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Mike Meyer wrote:
> 
> > RW <simakin@rw.ru> types:
> > > Thank you, Mike!
> > > 
> > > I try to explain my question - can I tell to process (apache, for
> > > example) to work only on first (or second) CPU?
> > > Does it possible to execute something like
> > >      /usr/local/sbin/snmpd &2  # using second CPU
> > > or like this
> > >      cpu_manager cpu=2 process=/usr/local/sbin/snmpd
> > > May be stupid example, but in NT we can point to services on
> > > which cpu they must run.
> > 
> > Nope, you can't do that. Given that the two processors are treated
> > symmetrically (that's what the S in SMP is for), why would you want
> > to run it on anything other than the first available CPU?
> > 
> > 	<mike
> > 
> > > >>  Can I separate tasks between different CPUs?
> > > MM> I'm not sure what you're asking.  You can't specify which CPU
> > > a task MM> winds up on, or which tasks wind up on different CPUs.
> > > You can break MM> your computing job up into tasks however you
> > > want to, but the system MM> will decide which tasks run on which
> > > CPU.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > --
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I have a PC with the following configuration:

Pentium III 650MHz
256MB RAM
3COM 3C905C-TX
3 hard drives:
	Primary master:		IBM DPTA-373420
	Primary slave:		IBM DPTA-373420
	Secondary master:	IBM DPTA-373420
	Secondary slave:	ATAPI CD-ROM

The drives are all 32GB and all on the ATA-33 bus.  I have tried installing 
FreeBSD 4.1 and 4.2 but each time, when the machine boots after the 
install, I get a prompt:

No /boot/loader

 >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default:  0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot:
No /kernel

 >>FreeBSD/i386  BOOT
Default:  0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot:


I've tried changing the drive modes in the BIOS, using NORMAL, LBA and 
LARGE, reinstalling the OS after each change.  The result is still the 
same.  I've also tried the STANDARD install and the CUSTOM installation, 
even taking the defaults for the slice sizes some of the times.  Still the 
same thing.  I tried the default slice sizes so that the "/" slice would be 
at the beginning of the drive, hopefully within 1024 cylinders.  From what 
I understand though, FreeBSD 4.2 doesn't have this limitation and can be 
installed anywhere on the drive.

I can't see why there should be a problem installing on such a system with 
these types of drives.  I haven't had any problems installing FreeBSD on 
systems with 9GB SCSI drives or 13.6GB IDE drives.

Any information would be appreciated.  I would like to stay with FreeBSD 
and changing the hardware in the system is not an option.  I've looked 
through the Handbook, The Complete FreeBSD and the mailing list 
archives.  There are some similar messages but nothing that points me to 
getting this fixed.  I've tried some of the suggestions and have installed 
the system over 7 times, all with the same result.  Booting off of CD2 with 
the live filesystem, I see that the OS files are on the drive and I see 
that there is indeed a /boot/loader but I always get the same message as above.


Thanks,

Oscar



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Hello,

I have Windows NT on one disk and FreeBSD 4.1 Release on a second disk.
When booting, I first get the following menu:

                   F1 MSDOS
                   F2 Windows NT
                   F5 Drive 1

                   Pressing F1 causes Windows NT to be loaded;
                   Pressing F2 gives error message;
                   Pressing F5 presents the following new menu:

                   F1 FreeBSD
                   F5 Drive 0

                   Pressing F1 loads FreeBSD;
                   Pressing F5 presents previous menu again.

This is of course not logical. How can I fix it to something as simple
as:

                   F1 FreeBSD
                   F2 Windows NT

                   where each option effectively loads the mentioned
system ?

I've tried to use bootinst.exe, but the situation remains de same.

Thanks in advance.
Marcus.



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I don't think it can be done with a simpel script.
cTreePlus comes with a couple of utility program which I never used, but 
they might include a program that dumps a file in ASCII.
Will check and get back later.

Jan



Joe Oliveiro wrote:

> Jan, do you have a simple script which will read a cTree db file and
> output it to ascii format? (i will buy the ctree program if i have to but
> this is all i need done.)
> 
>  On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote:
> 
>> cTree is indeed a Faircom product.
>> Check http://www.faircom.com/
>> We actually do use cTree for file indexing under FreeBSD as well as 
>> other platforms.
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Rowlands wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:14, Domain Administrator wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I now this is not the right place to post it but i know how smart the
>>>> people are on this list and feel i can get an answer!
>>>> 
>>>> I have a CTREE database file, i think CTREE is created with C++ libs but im
>>>> not sure. I have a Database in ctree and it consists of two files:
>>>> 
>>>> -rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    238167118 Jan 21 10:17 users.dat
>>>> -rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    10354688 Jan 21 10:17 users.idx
>>>> 
>>>> Now, when i run 'file <filename>' it just reports the file as being data so
>>>> i assume that this type of database file is hardly ever used or not just
>>>> commonplace.
>>>> 
>>>> # file users.dat
>>>> users.dat:      data
>>>> # file users.idx
>>>> users.idx:      data
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know how i can get support for this on my freebsd box so i can
>>>> somehow convert this database file into an ascii, comma delimited text file
>>>> and into something more common.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance for the help.
>>>> 
>>> Faircom sell a freebsd version of ctree ;-)
>>> 
>>> 
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pstern (pstern@ptialaska.net) wrote:

> I will try to do another install Tuesday night but I was using sysinstall
> to do the configuration initially and it sure looked like the old
> XF86Setup program to me. I also tried the older xf86config script with
> no luck. I'm not sure what you mean by build fonts during the install. I
> selected both the 75 and 100 dpi font packages for installation. I was
> under the assumption that the default install was XFree86 4.0.1 am I wrong
> and it installs 3.36?

The base FreeBSD system includes XFree-3.3.6, not 4.0.1. 

Personally, I have a video card not supported by XFree-3, so I install
FreeBSD without X support, and then install XFree-4 from the ports. 

> I have never had to install the wrapper before to run X as nonroot. When
> did this change? I did not select it during the 4.1 install and I can run
> X without trouble as nonroot.

XFree-3 ran setuid root, which is somewhat dangerous from a security
standpoint. In general, big complicated programs should not run as root.
If you install XFree4 from the ports, you will also need to install
Xwrapper if you plan to launch X from a console with "startx".

Personally I like the way FreeBSD "integrates" X. I recently spoke to
a Linux user who had never seen a plain text console display.

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Actually, you might want to check http://www.faircom.com/ as they do 
have a couple of utilities on their website.

Jan



Jan Knepper wrote:

> I don't think it can be done with a simpel script.
> cTreePlus comes with a couple of utility program which I never used, 
> but they might include a program that dumps a file in ASCII.
> Will check and get back later.
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>> Jan, do you have a simple script which will read a cTree db file and
>> output it to ascii format? (i will buy the ctree program if i have to 
>> but
>> this is all i need done.)
>> 
>>  On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote:
>> 
>>> cTree is indeed a Faircom product.
>>> Check http://www.faircom.com/
>>> We actually do use cTree for file indexing under FreeBSD as well as 
>>> other platforms.
>>> 
>>> Jan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark Rowlands wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:14, Domain Administrator wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I now this is not the right place to post it but i know how smart the
>>>>> people are on this list and feel i can get an answer!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a CTREE database file, i think CTREE is created with C++ 
>>>>> libs but im
>>>>> not sure. I have a Database in ctree and it consists of two files:
>>>>> 
>>>>> -rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    238167118 Jan 21 10:17 users.dat
>>>>> -rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    10354688 Jan 21 10:17 users.idx
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now, when i run 'file <filename>' it just reports the file as 
>>>>> being data so
>>>>> i assume that this type of database file is hardly ever used or 
>>>>> not just
>>>>> commonplace.
>>>>> 
>>>>> # file users.dat
>>>>> users.dat:      data
>>>>> # file users.idx
>>>>> users.idx:      data
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone know how i can get support for this on my freebsd box 
>>>>> so i can
>>>>> somehow convert this database file into an ascii, comma delimited 
>>>>> text file
>>>>> and into something more common.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance for the help.
>>>>> 
>>>> Faircom sell a freebsd version of ctree ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> 
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I am attempting to install FreeBSD on a laptop partition.  I am using a
Cisco Aironet LMC342 PCMCIA Adapter to connect the laptop to my network
which is Internet Connected.  The hardware works fine in Windows 98 (so I
know the hardware is ok) but I cannot get it configured in freebsd.  I used
the windows side to ftp the freebsd distribution to the dos partition and
installed it that way (though I would have preferred to have done an ftp
install originally).  I have freebsd installed but I still cannot get the
pcmcia adapter working.  Whe I do an ifconfig it shows the adapter and the
ip address that I assigned it in rc.conf and it shows that it is up but when
I try to ping anything, I get the message that the "host is down".  Does
anyone have any ideas that might help me overcome this issue?

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> >
> > Someone help me out if I have my head stuck firmly up my nether
> > regions, but from Brent's first post it isn't clear to me whether he
> > did a make world.
> 
> Read chapter 19 of the handbook again.
> Make world is the overall make target.  It was split up into make 
> buildworld and make installworld, because install world can be 
> dangerous on a multiuser machine.  So dropping down to single user to 
> do installworld results in less downtime than doing the whole thing in 
> single user mode.
> 
> >
> > After updating the sources the following three things need to be
> > done:
> >
> > #make world
> 
> You are mixing and matching build targets.
> 
> > #make buildworld KERNEL=MYKERNEL
> > #make installworld KERNEL=MYKERNEL
> 
> These are incorrect.   For rebuilding a kernel after updating sources 
> and a build world, the correct commands are:
> # cd /usr/src
> # make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
> # make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
> 
> These are from chapter 7 of the handboook.
> 
> 
> > This sequence DOES compile the kernel, does it not?  Please let me
> > know if I am mistaken.  
> 
> It does if you specify the buildkernel/installkernel targets.   You 
> were close, just the wrong targets.
> 
> > I used to think that I knew what was going
> > on, but after the recent discussion of the different ways to compile
> > a new kernel, I am not sure anymore.
> 
> 	The only confusion is that there are two methods of building the 
> kernel. One is used when the source tree has not been updated, the 
> other is used when it has.  That is written in the appropriate section 
> in chapter 7, but many people miss it.
> 
> 						Tim
> 
> 
> 

Thanks for the reply.  I think that I know why my system got hosed 
up the other day now.  That's what I get for going from memory on 
something that I haven't done very much.

Josh




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I am trying to do an FTP install with a SMC1211TX Network Card.  The
supported hardware list shows that it is a "RealTek 8129/8139" type card.
In the full screen configuration, what option do I select for this?  How do
I set up the resources?

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> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have Windows NT on one disk and FreeBSD 4.1 Release on a 
> second disk.
> When booting, I first get the following menu:
> 
>                    F1 MSDOS
>                    F2 Windows NT
>                    F5 Drive 1
> 
>                    Pressing F1 causes Windows NT to be loaded;
>                    Pressing F2 gives error message;
>                    Pressing F5 presents the following new menu:
> 
>                    F1 FreeBSD
>                    F5 Drive 0
> 
>                    Pressing F1 loads FreeBSD;
>                    Pressing F5 presents previous menu again.
> 
> This is of course not logical. 

Yes, it is logical :)

This boot manager presents all partitions it finds, from the 
first and second harddisk.  So, on the first partition it find
an "MSDOS" (FAT partition), and an NTFS partition; additionally,
it see that you have another harddisk - and give you the chance
to boot from it.  On the second disk is the same - a FreeBSD
partition, and the chance to boot from the first disk.

From your messages, I can see that you have an FAT partition
where ntldr resides.  Before installing FreeBSD (and this
bootmanager), you simply booted from this partition.  The
ntldr from it solve the rest (this is why it works by pressing
"F1").

When you press F2, it tries to boot from your second partition
(formatted NTFS).  But this partition does not have any
bootable info - so you get an error message.

The F3-F4 are reserved for the third, respectively fourth
partition.

F5 start the boot process from the second disk;  there,
process is similar (only with one partition).


> How can I fix it to something as simple as:
> 
>                    F1 FreeBSD
>                    F2 Windows NT
> 
>                    where each option effectively loads the mentioned
> system ?

Search for and install other bootmanager, that solve
your needs.  There are several (free) bootmanagers,
each with its goodness and weakness.

> 
> I've tried to use bootinst.exe, but the situation remains de same.

this is the bootmanager installed by default - if
your MBR is corrupted (say that you install an w'9x)
you can reinstall it.


stefan


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Running FreeBSD 4.x-STABLE and sendmail 8.11.1 ...

Recently, I installed the BlackList/RBL and DUL rules into my sendmail.cf
file, in order to curtail spam better ... works like a charm, but I want
to use /etc/mail/access to let in a specific host that is blacklist'd ...
I added 'domain<tab>OK' to the list, type'd 'make access.db', restarted
sendmail, and they are still being rejected ...

Does the mail-abuse.org rules override the use of the accessdb stuff?

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The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> 
> Running FreeBSD 4.x-STABLE and sendmail 8.11.1 ...
> 
> Recently, I installed the BlackList/RBL and DUL rules into my sendmail.cf
> file, in order to curtail spam better ... works like a charm, but I want
> to use /etc/mail/access to let in a specific host that is blacklist'd ...
> I added 'domain<tab>OK' to the list, type'd 'make access.db', restarted
> sendmail, and they are still being rejected ...
> 
Not sure, but try RELAY instead of OKAY.  That worked for me.

Jim
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On Jan 23, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
>Recently, I installed the BlackList/RBL and DUL rules into my sendmail.cf
>file, in order to curtail spam better ... works like a charm, but I want
>to use /etc/mail/access to let in a specific host that is blacklist'd ...
>I added 'domain<tab>OK' to the list, type'd 'make access.db', restarted
>sendmail, and they are still being rejected ...

Use

domain	RELAY

RELAY seems to be the only value that works.

Dan
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Ok, I'm still not getting this to work.  I read that it may be that my 
firewall is blocking the incoming data.  The only firewall in front of 
my FreeBSD box is a Lynksys etherfast cable router, and it may be 
blocking high ports.  I also tried forwarding port 888 to my FreeBSD 
machine, but that didn't work.  I also tried looking through the dagrab 
source to try to find out what port it listens on, but I couldn't make 
sense of it.  And since the check for cddb info is very quick in dagrab 
I don't see a way to check what port it is trying to listen on using 
netstat or sockstat.
	Does anybody know what port dagrab listens on for cddb info?  Or know 
how to find out?  If I forwarded that through the linksys to my FreeBSD 
box would that work?  Thanks,

						Tim

On Wednesday January 17, 2001 18:24, Tim McMillen wrote:
> Has anybody gotten dagrab to get the cddb data correctly?  I can get
> it to rip tracks perfectly, but I get:
> tim# dagrab -aNvd /dev/acd0c
> dagrab: error retrieving cddb data
> sectors  12 overlap   2 key length  12 retrys   40 offset  12
> Dumping all tracks
> Dumping track 1: lba      0 to lba  21851 (needs 49 MB)
> Output file is: @num-@trk.wav
>
> switching to other cddb servers that I found on the internet doesn't
> seem to work either.  I found one that said it used port 8880 so I
> tried tim# dagrab -aNvd /dev/acd0c -H us.cddb.com -P 8880
> dagrab: error retrieving cddb data
> sectors  12 overlap   2 key length  12 retrys   40 offset  12
>
> Are there any cddb servers that are know to work with dagrab or am I
> just doing something wrong?  Thanks,
>
> 						Tim
>
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hello,

has anyone been able to install freebsd on a toshiba portege 3440ct?
it boots nicely from 4.2-Release kern.flp, mfsroot loads, then the hardware
detection stuff scrolls along, but it locks up shortly after sio1 with
all sorts of messages about unknown hardware.  if it's not a lost
cause, i'll try to manually grab all the dmesg-like output and send it
up.  

thanks,

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Shouldn't you also have a -C option also?

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Tim McMillen wrote:

> 
> Ok, I'm still not getting this to work.  I read that it may be that my 
> firewall is blocking the incoming data.  The only firewall in front of 
> my FreeBSD box is a Lynksys etherfast cable router, and it may be 
> blocking high ports.  I also tried forwarding port 888 to my FreeBSD 
> machine, but that didn't work.  I also tried looking through the dagrab 
> source to try to find out what port it listens on, but I couldn't make 
> sense of it.  And since the check for cddb info is very quick in dagrab 
> I don't see a way to check what port it is trying to listen on using 
> netstat or sockstat.
> 	Does anybody know what port dagrab listens on for cddb info?  Or know 
> how to find out?  If I forwarded that through the linksys to my FreeBSD 
> box would that work?  Thanks,
> 
> 						Tim
> 
> On Wednesday January 17, 2001 18:24, Tim McMillen wrote:
> > Has anybody gotten dagrab to get the cddb data correctly?  I can get
> > it to rip tracks perfectly, but I get:
> > tim# dagrab -aNvd /dev/acd0c
> > dagrab: error retrieving cddb data
> > sectors  12 overlap   2 key length  12 retrys   40 offset  12
> > Dumping all tracks
> > Dumping track 1: lba      0 to lba  21851 (needs 49 MB)
> > Output file is: @num-@trk.wav
> >
> > switching to other cddb servers that I found on the internet doesn't
> > seem to work either.  I found one that said it used port 8880 so I
> > tried tim# dagrab -aNvd /dev/acd0c -H us.cddb.com -P 8880
> > dagrab: error retrieving cddb data
> > sectors  12 overlap   2 key length  12 retrys   40 offset  12
> >
> > Are there any cddb servers that are know to work with dagrab or am I
> > just doing something wrong?  Thanks,
> >
> > 						Tim
> >
> >
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Try to use UNILOAD. You can just test how it works without installation on
your hard disk, just run install.exe and install on floppy, then boot from
floppy and if works, you can install it on your hard disk. Please run
install.exe from floppy too when you will install UNILOAD on your hard disk,
because if something goes wrong your can restore changed sectors by the same
install.exe program. You can download UNILAOD from
http://www.simon.org.ua/uniload/

This bootloader will not require to press F1, F2, etc. from you, you will be
able to select needed boot sector (4 hard disks are supported, so 16 boot
sectors are supported) with easy menu, it understands about 50 file systems,
supports password protection, supports LBA packet interface, time delay
boot.

I think that it is better than boot manager your described below.


Marcus Ramos <marcus@ansp.br> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I have Windows NT on one disk and FreeBSD 4.1 Release on a second disk.
> When booting, I first get the following menu:
>
>                    F1 MSDOS
>                    F2 Windows NT
>                    F5 Drive 1
>
>                    Pressing F1 causes Windows NT to be loaded;
>                    Pressing F2 gives error message;
>                    Pressing F5 presents the following new menu:
>
>                    F1 FreeBSD
>                    F5 Drive 0
>
>                    Pressing F1 loads FreeBSD;
>                    Pressing F5 presents previous menu again.
>
> This is of course not logical. How can I fix it to something as simple
> as:
>
>                    F1 FreeBSD
>                    F2 Windows NT
>
>                    where each option effectively loads the mentioned
> system ?
>
> I've tried to use bootinst.exe, but the situation remains de same.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Marcus.
>
>
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Hi,
I need to add a tape drive to our network. Do you have any suggestions as to 
a medium priced drive that is compatible with 4.2? What about parallel drives?

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[Please do *not* remove the Cc: freebsd-question]

On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 08:53:31PM -0800, parthasarathi biswas wrote:
> That is fine Jonatahan,
> But where is m4 config files and how can I make that
> MASQUERADE(master.com)
> FEATURE(MASQUERADE_ENABLE)
> 
> Pls advise.If you don't mind can u explain??

The configuration templates for sendmail live in
/usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf. Basically, you have to look thru' the
README and make up a m4 file in the cf directory. There's a template
for a generic-bsd4.4.mc that is suitable for local tweaks.
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 09:19:19PM -0600, Brennan Stehling wrote:
> I have been using vi for a very long time and often like to run it inside
> of a screen session, but lately I have had display problems.  In F3.4 I
> was fine and I have not changed my SSH client or any of my shell
> settings.  I just now started to have problems.
> 
> I am in a session with vi editing a perl script and as I arrow down the
> cursor actually goes up and the entire screen is not displayed.  It
> appears that the first several lines will display while the lower part
> just goes blank.  I have to continually hit control-l to get the screen to
> refresh.
> 
> I am unsure if this is an issue with vi or screen but it seems to happen
> with or without screen.  It is hard to test it as it seems  
> sporadic.

When I upgraded `screen', I had this problem running with an xterm.
Finally traced it down to the default configuration in
/usr/local/etc/screenrc. Had to remove the "cs=...." for xterm, and it
then started working fine again.

Of course, this will only help if you're using an xterm with
screen....

Cheers.
-- 
Jonathan Chen <jonathan.chen@itouch.co.nz>
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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 12:13:32PM +0100, Tomas TPS Ulej wrote:

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So, why don't you do it list by list instead of * ?

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Hello.

Sorry to bother you with a general question:

Inside of

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/contrib-how.html
section 20.2.4 talks about "contribution of a large body of work".

I am the author of such a beast, FirstBase, I develop on FreeBSD,
and I'd like to contribute FirstBase and tune it to be a FreeBSD package.

http://firstbase.com/firstbase

Can you point me in the right direction.

Thank you for your time

-cc

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Do you not think your abusive disdain for Linux users is better
kept to yourself ?
Many people, including myself, happily use both, and this
sort of mindless nastiness is completely unecessary in this list.

Cliff

On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 11:56:43AM -0500, FreeBSD Mailing List Info wrote:
> 
> 
> Yep, from copious use of UTSL[ 1 ], the rpc.statd(8) manpage, the red-hat-weenie 
> web site (www.redhat.com/support/erratta/RHSA-2000-043-03.html), the particle 
> physics guys ( www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2000-17.html), and an old usenet-
> archived message from  one of our own highly esteemed community, 
> ( archives.neohapsis.com/freebsd/2000-08/0163.html), I sort-of came to
> the conclusion that my portmapper and rpc ports should be monitored for
> a while.  Thus  I'm pretty sure that's what's filling up the logs. 
> 
> The FreeBSD art I'd like to see is Chuck roasting Tux on the end of
> the pitchfork, over a stack of burining $Msoft cd-roms and red hats.
> Hmm, dinner, roast pengin-kabob , then back to work. [ 2 ]. 
> 
> [ 1 ]. Use The Source, Luke.
> [ 2 ]. Although, I have to admit, some of the tiny embedded Linux solutions
> seem to pretty good, so maybe Chuck doesn't eat the hors d'ouvres. 
> 
> >
> >On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 10:48:50AM -0500, FreeBSD Mailing List Info wrote:
> >> One big diffrence I have discovered is that SUSE and Debian users 
> >> appear to be much smarter that the Red Hat weenies, who apparently haven't 
> >> figured out that this rpc.statd exploit, which will make many Red Hat machines 
> >> wide open to being rooted, just doesn't work on FreeBSD. I have yet to point 
> >> Netcraft ( or other methods ) back at one of these silly bastards and not find 
> >> out that they are Red Hat propeller-heads. 
> >[...]
> >> Jan 23 01:06:33 not_a_linux_weenie /kernel: ipfw: X000 Count TCP 204.185.158.217:4808 XXX.XXX.XXX.X:111 in via mx0
> >
> >Is that what all the recent activity has been about on port 111? Of late
> >I'm getting hit on 111 more often than even 27374.
> >
> >--
> >David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm)
> >======================================================================
> >The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
> >capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.
> >
> 
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Dear sir,
       I have 2 server to make DNS. One is FreeBSD4.0 operating system.
Another is WindowsNT4.0 operating system.       =

I set up FreeBSD4.0 as Primary DNS. And I try to set up windowsNT server =
to be
secondary DNS of FreeBSD.					 =

But it can't work!  Windows NT secondary DNS can't see FreeBSD primary DN=
S. I
try to set this NT server to be secondary
DNS of another NT primary DNS and it can work! How should I do? I must in=
stall
other file or service in FreeBSD or NT,mustn't I? =

If you have solution tell me ,please.
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hi, 
i have a freebsd box that is sitting on the outside of the network. the
freebsd box has two network interfaces. one interface on the internet side
with a ip of 196.38.x.x and the other interface with an ip of 10.0.0.1.
the freebsd box is running squid, exim and apache with ipfw enabled. all
the webpages are hosted on the the fbsd box and works well as can only be
expected from apache. the problem is, there is a website running on a
winNT machine on LAN. the machine has an ip of 10.0.0.2. the page has to
run on the winNT machine. people from the outside (internet) must be able
to see this webpage. 

i was thinking in the lines of using ipfw to redirect all data going to
196.38.x.x :70 to 10.0.0.2:80. 
these are the commands i've tried useing.

ipfw add 600 fwd 10.0.0.2,80 tcp from any to 196.38.x.x 70
ipfw add 600 fwd 10.0.0.2,80 tcp from any to 196.38.x.x 70 via fxp0

i've also made sure that all packets are allowed to 196.38.x.x,10.0.0.2
and 127.0.0.1
 
i don't know what to do any more.

i have had a look at apache's reverse proxy, but that is even more
confusing than ipfw :)


any help would greatly be appreciated.

thanks

Andre'



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 I think I ran into the same problem not too long ago. When you did the
initial setup... In the FDISK Partition Editor, choose 'A' to use the
entire disk. At the warning, choose 'NO' to accept dangerously dedicated
disk. (We want no MS-DOS partitions here!) Press 'Q' to continue

I have just updated at least 4 boxes in our company, and one suffered from
the problem you described. After a couple full loads and getting foiled at
the reboot, I finally just selected A for entire disk and voila.

-Gerry

--original message
The drives are all 32GB and all on the ATA-33 bus.  I have tried installing
FreeBSD 4.1 and 4.2 but each time, when the machine boots after the
install, I get a prompt:

No /boot/loader

 >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default:  0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot:
No /kernel

 >>FreeBSD/i386  BOOT
Default:  0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot:




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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:17:14 -0900, Beech Rintoul <akbeech@anchoragerescue.org> said:

Beech> Hi, I need to add a tape drive to our network. Do you have any
Beech> suggestions as to a medium priced drive that is compatible with
Beech> 4.2? What about parallel drives?

I bought two Archive Python 4xDDS2 robots; first was $150, second was
about $250. A friend recently bought an HP1553 (?) 6xDDS2 robot for
about $350. All were SCSI.  Works like a charm under Amanda's robot
control. I like automated jukes because then the backups actually get
done :-)

Check refurb/surplus houses; search on "library", "archive" or
"jukebox".  www.ezsystems.com was where I got one of mine. While all
three of the above were "refurbished" I'd be money they were never
ever in service: the plastic and mounting holes have absolutely no
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Jan 23 12:19:17 2001
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Hello all,

I recently bought a MS Intellipoint Explorer mouse to replace my Logitech
MoseMan Wireless. In the past, the Mouseman has worked flawlessly with my
Linksys 4 port KVM and my three machines (two FreeBSD and one Windows).
After I got the Intellipoint and installed the software (on Windows) and
rebooted my FreeBSD box (so psm would detect the new hardware) I am having
problems with the Intellipoint on FreeBSD. It works great in Windows though.
In FreeBSD the mouse is detected fine and there are no problems running
moused or XFree86 (with or without moused). But the mouse pointer is very
erratic and seems to act in a random manner. However, I am not getting any
"psm out of sync" messages. I've read the man pages for moused and psm and I
haven't been able to see anything that is out of whack on my system. Does
anyone have any suggestions?

Relevant System info: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE (build world on Jan 20)

Ian Cartwright
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Raymond James & Associates
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Jan 23 12:27: 7 2001
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Just acquired one from a friend ... its running Linux right now with quite
impressive resolution ... am plannin gon makin it triple boot and am
wondering if there are any caveats I should bear in mind for FreeBSD ...

Thanks ...

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Hi.

I know is a offtopic but here goes.

Got a 8 port KWM switch with
3 M$ NT
3 FreeBSD
1 OpenBSD

The problem is that when using OpenBSD thru the KVM the hole
thing suddenly stop responing to keyboard input.  The switch
refuses to change to another channel. This applies even if I
turn the switch off and then back on.  The only solution is
to pull the power cord on the OpenBSD box.

Only connected the keyboard to the OpenBSD not the mouse.
Since FreeBSD works like a charm is there a diffrence in the
keyboard device in OpenBSD and is there a hack for this??

There is no error messages in the logs nor is there any
problems using OpenBSD box throu a SSH session on another
computer.

PeTe


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Excellent.  Then you're probably talented enough to create a port for 
it yourself.   Check out:
http://www.freebsd.org/porters-handbook/
That should give you enough to create a port/package
A good place to go with questions after reading that is the ports 
mailing list.  See
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL
for how to subscribe and such.

					Tim


On Tuesday January 23, 2001 14:38, john@firstbase.com wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Sorry to bother you with a general question:
>
> Inside of
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/contrib-how.html
> section 20.2.4 talks about "contribution of a large body of work".
>
> I am the author of such a beast, FirstBase, I develop on FreeBSD,
> and I'd like to contribute FirstBase and tune it to be a FreeBSD
> package.
>
> http://firstbase.com/firstbase
>
> Can you point me in the right direction.
>
> Thank you for your time
>
> -cc
>
> John Bolding
> FirstBase Software, Inc.
> (520) 742-7897
>
> email: john@firstbase.com
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I'm getting ready to compile a custom kernel and wanted to know if my
onboard sound is supported in FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE.

According to the motherboard handbook, it says that it is Creative Lab's
ES1373 PCI 3D Audio Chip, AC97 Codec, which is onboard my BCM GTV693VA
Motherboard.

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do anyone have detailed instructions installing freebsd on a thinkpad
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Alright just installed 4.2 w/ sysinstall....added options IPFIREWALL options
IPDIVER options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD all to my kernnel config (icebox2)
config'd and compile....did sysctl -a | grep fw...and fw.enable is set to
1....ipfw show issues one allow all for static commands, and something
unknown for dynamic commands..

try adding ipfw add 500 divert natd all from any to any via rl0

and receive error:
ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD) INVALID ARGUMENT

what's going on

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In an answer to a reply:  this machine is about 6 months old.  The BIOS 
successfully recognizes the size of the large drives.

In the FDISK portion of the install, I had been selecting "A" to use the 
entire disk and then "N" to accept dangerously dedicated,  but that wasn't 
working.  I've been doing some additional reading and apparently, the new 
boot0 won't work with "dangerously dedicated".  This is according to John 
Baldwin in:

<http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=86312+90941+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/freebsd-stable/20000730.freebsd-stable>

So in another attempted install, I still chose "A" to use the entire disk, 
but this time selected "YES", for a true partition entry, and also set that 
partition as bootable.  In the next section, I was asked to install a Boot 
Manager for the drive and I selecte "S" to install a Standard MBR (no boot 
manager).  The machine may have three drives, but there will only be one 
operating system so I don't see a need for a Boot Manager, just the 
standard MBR.  I then created my partitions on ad0 in the following manner:

ad0s1a  /       2000MB
ad0s1b  swap    512MB
ad0s1e  /var    10000MB
ad0s1f          /usr    20500MB

I then selected which Distribution I wanted to install, and I selected 
"ALL".  After this I went through the post-installation configuration and 
that finished.

This time, when I rebooted the machine I get a different message:

         "Missing Operating System"

Not sure what I need to do now.  I've followed the different install 
methods suggested in the mail archives as well as on this list.

As before, any information or suggestions would be appreciated.



Oscar


At 03:16 PM 1/23/01 -0500, Gerald T. Freymann, you wrote:
>  I think I ran into the same problem not too long ago. When you did the
>initial setup... In the FDISK Partition Editor, choose 'A' to use the
>entire disk. At the warning, choose 'NO' to accept dangerously dedicated
>disk. (We want no MS-DOS partitions here!) Press 'Q' to continue
>
>I have just updated at least 4 boxes in our company, and one suffered from
>the problem you described. After a couple full loads and getting foiled at
>the reboot, I finally just selected A for entire disk and voila.
>
>-Gerry
>
>--original message
>The drives are all 32GB and all on the ATA-33 bus.  I have tried installing
>FreeBSD 4.1 and 4.2 but each time, when the machine boots after the
>install, I get a prompt:
>
>No /boot/loader
>
>  >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
>Default:  0:ad(0,a)/kernel
>boot:
>No /kernel
>
>  >>FreeBSD/i386  BOOT
>Default:  0:ad(0,a)/kernel
>boot:
>
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The other day I decided to upgrade my X-Server from 3.3.6 to
4.0.2. However, I'm having a bit of trouble getting things configured as
the config utility (xf86cfg) crashes my machine. As in, I run the utility
and 10 seconds later I get a BIOS post. Not good. Has anyone experienced a
similar issue? I'm running 4.2-STABLE (I cvsup'ed and built my world just
the other day), on an Athlon 600, with 128 megs of RAM, Asus K7M
mainboard, and a PCI Riva128 based video card (although I tried my AGP
Voodoo3, with similar results). Any and all suggestions would be greatly
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Alan Gates wrote:

> I am trying to do an FTP install with a SMC1211TX Network Card.  The
> supported hardware list shows that it is a "RealTek 8129/8139" type card.
> In the full screen configuration, what option do I select for this?  How do
> I set up the resources?
> 
Use the 'rl' driver. I've done an FTP install using that card with no
problems.

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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 03:42:12PM -0500, Andrew J. Siegel wrote:
> Alright just installed 4.2 w/ sysinstall....added options IPFIREWALL options
> IPDIVER options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD all to my kernnel config (icebox2)
> config'd and compile....did sysctl -a | grep fw...and fw.enable is set to
> 1....ipfw show issues one allow all for static commands, and something
> unknown for dynamic commands..
> 
> try adding ipfw add 500 divert natd all from any to any via rl0
> 
> and receive error:
> ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD) INVALID ARGUMENT

This usually indicates that you haven't *installed* a kernel with
IPDIVERT options set. Send the list of your dmesg output.
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"Albert D. Cahalan" writes:
> 
> David Kelly writes:
> > A small thing but last time I sat at a Linux keyboard "dir" did
> > the DOS thing, by default.
> 
> ROTFL!!!
> 
> How did you discover this? Perhaps you typed "dir" at the prompt?
> Fortunately, the command was there when you needed it. :-)
> 
> I'm sure this command is really detrimental to the system. Heh.

Actually it was detrimental. It wasn't *my* Linux box but one belonging
to a fellow employee I was helping. He couldn't figure out why "dir /w"
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm attempting to install 4.2-Release on an 'older' packard bell
> > system.  I've read the archives and it seems that these systems are not
> > exactly favorites for working well, but still, I'd like to give it a shot
>:)
> >
> > The problem (occurred with both 4.1-Release and 4.2-Release ISO's that I
> > d/loaded):
> > Everything goes great, up until the file copies start occurring.  Every
> > time it gets to the same point - copying over boot/support.4th, and the
> > system hangs.  It seems odd though that not only does the system freeze
> > solid, but it also prevents me from using the keyboard shortcut to switch
> > ports on my KVM (keyboard input is completely locked out).
> >
> > The hardware:
> > Packard Bell Legend 130CD Supreme
> > CD Rom = NEC CDR-272 (4x)
> > Processor = P100
> > RAM = 72MB
> > Motherboard = Packard Bell Agoura/Wildcat (Intel chipset, built by PB)
> > Video = Built-in, Cirrus Logic Alpine GD5430 video chipset.
> >
> > Other:
> > Chipset PCI064B Super I/O controller
> > VL82C593 controller
> >
> > Any thoughts of what might be going wrong, and what might be a possible
> > solution?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > John
> >
> >
>
>Try installing and having the verbose console up. Press Alt-F2 to get to it.
>Tell us what error messages it gives when it hangs.
>
>In general Packard Bells suffer from a couple of things.  One:  The 4x
>cdroms aren't always fully IDE compatible.  Two:  They oftentimes have buggy
>IDE controllers.  Three:  They are packard bells, and just suffer from all
>sorts of evil other stuff.

Actually, I had been watching the verbose console the entire time.  When 
the install hangs, there is NO error message.  It just sits there. And sits 
there. And sits there. (until I hit reset).

Interesting fact: just for fun, I tried installing off of a set of 2.2.6 
CD's that I have.  The install went beautifully smoothly - no problems at 
all.  Then, after reboot, I get the lovely message that boot.config and 
boot.help both can't be found, thereby giving me a useless system.

I'm thinking about just trying to find another motherboard to stick in this 
thing, but being strapped for cash right now, that might not happen.  Any 
other thoughts or ideas?

Thanks,
John



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Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: Contributing a large body of code
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In the last episode (Jan 23), john@firstbase.com said:
> Sorry to bother you with a general question:
> 
> Inside of http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/contrib-how.html section
> 20.2.4 talks about "contribution of a large body of work".
> 
> I am the author of such a beast, FirstBase, I develop on FreeBSD, and
> I'd like to contribute FirstBase and tune it to be a FreeBSD package.
> 
> http://firstbase.com/firstbase
> 
> Can you point me in the right direction.

The handbook section you're in really refers to contributing things to
the base system (say a patch to ls), instead of creating a port/package
for a 3rd-party application.  http://www.freebsd.org/porters-handbook/
is the reference for creating a port.  Since you said you develop on
FreeBSD, the port Makefile should be pretty simple.  The "Quick
Porting" section will probably be all you need.


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You can refer to the FreeBSD Handbook (www.freebsd.org/handbook)
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Yonny Cardenas B. wrote:

> Hello
>
> I am adding a set the new system calls to FreeBSD kernel,
> but to compile and to test new source code within the kernel
> is a little hard  when there is some problem.
>
> Is there anybody knows some reference (URL), tools or some help
> to programming and debugging in the kernel FreeBSD?
> That is some suggestions, examples, etc., different to
> kernel?s source code of course.
>
> Thanks.
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On Tuesday, 23 January 2001 at 11:54:09 -0500, Marc.Giannoni@comsat.com wrote:
>      Hi:
>
>      I believe there may be a problem with the vinum startup commands in
>      /etc/rc.   Whenever I drop (my host) down to Single User mode, the
>      vinum daemon is not stopped - which appears to be OK although FreeBSD
>      does issue a warning.   When returning (my host) to Multi User mode,
>      /etc/rc performs another "vinum start", AND THE VINUM DAEMON IS STILL
>      RUNNING!   Vinum does not seem to like this (being started twice) and
>      appears to causes the vinum disks to assume a "down" state.

It shouldn't mind being started again.  Can you take a look at
http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/how-to-debug.html and send me the history
and log file contents.

>      I mistakenly tried to start these disks individually and
>      subsequently corrupted a few subdisks which caused me to trash
>      my file system.  (I've gotta be more careful with these vinum
>      commands in the future!!)

Indeed.

>      I've not seen any comments about this issue, only the usual
>      start_vinum="YES" line in /etc/rc.conf.   Should "/etc/rc" perform a
>      process table check to ensure that the vinum daemon is NOT active
>      prior to performing the "vinum start" command?  Is there a special
>      "vinum" option that protect against recursive "vinum start(s)"?
>      Should all vinum file systems be unmounted when dropping to Single
>      User mode so that the vinum daemon can be (will be) stopped?

First I need to understand why this is happening in the first place.
I can find a way to prevent a second start, but it shouldn't be
necessary.

Greg
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> FreeBSD has a long and stable history.  Although you don't like it, I think the
> documentation is superb. 

If your refering to my opinion of the documentation, 
it's not so much that I dont like it as I am disappointed with 
some aspects.  

OTOH, if your refering to me disliking FBSD nothing could be 
fruther from the truth.  Compared to Linux it seems to be
'stable'.....or maybe the proper word would be that
it has a more professional appearance.  However I dont 
have *the* latest relase of Linux, the two that I have are SuSE 
and RedHat.  Both slightly older versions and both sitting on 
a shelf.  

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> > > The hardware:
> > > Packard Bell Legend 130CD Supreme
> > > CD Rom = NEC CDR-272 (4x)
> > > Processor = P100
> > > RAM = 72MB
> > > Motherboard = Packard Bell Agoura/Wildcat (Intel chipset, built by PB)
> > > Video = Built-in, Cirrus Logic Alpine GD5430 video chipset.

I'm going to venture a *wild* guess, seriously.  When I was
working at a small PC store assembling wintel boxes the
P/B's were notorious for having problems with an
'unconventional' memory configuration
(.i.e. 72MB's, 18MB, 208MB, 12MB or something like that).
If you are so inclined try reconfiguring your memory.  
However be forewarned that I could be a sadistic *sshole hoping 
you will ruin your system. In other words I dont imply any garauntee 
that my suggestion will work or not mess up your system.  

Steve M




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It is posible to connect to remote points with a dedicated telephone li=
ne using FreeBSD at one end (acting as router,bridge)
and in the other end a NT intranet.

Thanks
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O.K. 

	I have gotten in a bit deep here.  What I essentailly want to
do is allow a Mac (OS 9) user to access a legacy MS-DOS file system to
manipulate some files.  
	I am most of the way there.  I have the old msdos hard
drive in a FreeBSD 3.5-Stable box, the filesystem correctly mounts at boot
time, and the Mac user can see the files system via
netatalk.  The old hard drive has been mounted on 
/mnt/dosc, and the entire file system is owned by the macuser.
	The problem is, though the macuser can login to the account via
netatalk, and browse the filesystem in question, s/he can't copy any
of the files to the local Apple hard drive, or manipulate any of the
files.  The Mac system complains that any given file "is already in
use" and thus can't be manipulated.  Anybody run into this before?  Is
there something I can do on the FreeBSD side to rectify things? 
	The macuser can copy/modify things normaly in his/her home
directory, which has the same permissions as the mounted file system.  The 
UFS behaves as expected.  Likewise I have no problems on the
FreeBSD machine copying or moving things around, as the macuser.


Important stats: (Just in case it matters)
uname -a
FreeBSD milux.ny.home 3.5-STABLE FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE #7: Sun Jan  7
12:40:17 EST 2001     marius@milux.ny.home:/usr/src/sys/compile/MILUX
i386

netatalk-1.4b2+asun-2.1.3

ls -ld /mnt/dosc
drwxr-xr-x  1 macuser  macuser  16384 Jan  1  1980 /mnt/dosc

ls -ld /home/macuser
drwxr-xr-x  6 macuser  macuser  512 Jan 16 18:32 /home/macuser




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default:\
       :if=/etc/issue:

in gettytab should display 'issue' at login.  It doesnt anymore.

Any idea why?



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what's the current preference for 4-STABLE ata RAID-1, hardware or software?

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Dear Sirs:

I have two PC's; one is now proudly running FreeBSD OS.  Can I use my
internal DSL modem/ISP service located in my Windows98 SE machine to connect
to the internet from my FreeBSD machine?  These two machines used to be
directly connected via ethernet(UTP, NIC cards, NE2000 compatible, no hub)
for file sharing when both were Windows machines.  I have a hub if I need to
use it.

Am I dreaming?

How about;  Could I use my DSL modem and FreeBSD to connect to the internet
if I loaded FreeBSD in a dual boot scenario on one machine?

What is the best way (protocol) to network the two machines?

These questions may not be worthy.  I'm still doing my homework.  I did
manage to get FreeBSD installed and X11 configured with only the help of
available documentation.

My interest in Unix stems from the fact that I "own" /maintain an
application that runs on a  SCO server at work.  We have professional
support, but that's no fun!!  UNIX is fun and it's become a real hobby for
me now.

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Per Tore Larsen <per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com> types:
> I know is a offtopic but here goes.

Actually, this is the wrong support group for this.

> Got a 8 port KWM switch with
> 3 M$ NT
> 3 FreeBSD
> 1 OpenBSD
> 
> The problem is that when using OpenBSD thru the KVM the hole
> thing suddenly stop responing to keyboard input.  The switch
> refuses to change to another channel. This applies even if I
> turn the switch off and then back on.  The only solution is
> to pull the power cord on the OpenBSD box.
> 
> Only connected the keyboard to the OpenBSD not the mouse.
> Since FreeBSD works like a charm is there a diffrence in the
> keyboard device in OpenBSD and is there a hack for this??

I'd be surprised if the two drivers weren't different. But you're more
likely to find a hack for OpenBSD on an OpenBSD list than on a FreeBSD
list. You're also more likely to find someone who can commit fixes to
OpenBSD after looking at the FreeBSD code on an OpenBSD list.

In other words, you should direct your question to the appropriate
OpenBSD support list.

	<mike
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Well it still seems that there are problems with the permissions and 
ownership.  I do not know how to fix that.  It could be simple or as 
complicated as a bug in netatalk and the way it works with mount_msdos. 
If you have enough disk space, copy the files using FreeBSD to the 
users home directory that they connect into using netatalk.  Once they 
are in that directory as ffs files, the macuser will certainly be able 
to do whatever with them they need to.  Just make sure they are chown'd 
to the user first.  Although, guess the reason you're asking is that 
you don't have the disk space or it isn't feasible to do the copy, and 
if so then I haven't been helpful at all.  In that case, sorry,

						Tim



On Tuesday January 23, 2001 17:51, Marius wrote:
> O.K.
>
> 	I have gotten in a bit deep here.  What I essentailly want to
> do is allow a Mac (OS 9) user to access a legacy MS-DOS file system
> to manipulate some files.
> 	I am most of the way there.  I have the old msdos hard
> drive in a FreeBSD 3.5-Stable box, the filesystem correctly mounts at
> boot time, and the Mac user can see the files system via
> netatalk.  The old hard drive has been mounted on
> /mnt/dosc, and the entire file system is owned by the macuser.
> 	The problem is, though the macuser can login to the account via
> netatalk, and browse the filesystem in question, s/he can't copy any
> of the files to the local Apple hard drive, or manipulate any of the
> files.  The Mac system complains that any given file "is already in
> use" and thus can't be manipulated.  Anybody run into this before? 
> Is there something I can do on the FreeBSD side to rectify things?
> The macuser can copy/modify things normaly in his/her home
> directory, which has the same permissions as the mounted file system.
>  The UFS behaves as expected.  Likewise I have no problems on the
> FreeBSD machine copying or moving things around, as the macuser.
>
>
> Important stats: (Just in case it matters)
> uname -a
> FreeBSD milux.ny.home 3.5-STABLE FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE #7: Sun Jan  7
> 12:40:17 EST 2001     marius@milux.ny.home:/usr/src/sys/compile/MILUX
> i386
>
> netatalk-1.4b2+asun-2.1.3
>
> ls -ld /mnt/dosc
> drwxr-xr-x  1 macuser  macuser  16384 Jan  1  1980 /mnt/dosc
>
> ls -ld /home/macuser
> drwxr-xr-x  6 macuser  macuser  512 Jan 16 18:32 /home/macuser
>
>
>
>
> -Marius M. Rex
>
>
>
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> > Only connected the keyboard to the OpenBSD not the mouse.
> > Since FreeBSD works like a charm is there a diffrence in the
> > keyboard device in OpenBSD and is there a hack for this??
> 
> I'd be surprised if the two drivers weren't different. But you're more
> likely to find a hack for OpenBSD on an OpenBSD list than on a FreeBSD
> list. You're also more likely to find someone who can commit fixes to
> OpenBSD after looking at the FreeBSD code on an OpenBSD list.
> 
> In other words, you should direct your question to the appropriate
> OpenBSD support list.
> 
> 	<mike

Agreed, but since I know there are OpenBSD lurking in the corners at this
maillist I hope to get some pointers before I when on another maillist.
200+ new messages overnight is enough.. :)

PeTe


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Hi all,

Any idea what might be causing this build error in the stunnel port?

===>  Building for stunnel-3.11
/usr/local/bin/openssl req -new -x509 -days 365 -nodes  -config stunnel.cnf 
-out
  stunnel.pem -keyout stunnel.pem
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/openssl: Undefined symbol 
"SSLeay_add_a
ll_algorithms"
*** Error code 1

System is 4.2-stable, last built in early december.

Thanks,
John



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                   Free BSD'ers-

     i bought the 99.95 10 cd & book set.  i am struggling mightily to
figure out unix et al..........but i got two copies of disc 1 and nil copies
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 1/23/01, 4:53:20 PM, Filippo Moretti <gunnut@2ainfo.it> wrote=20
regarding Re: cvsup not getting any files:


>  I have thesame problem even though I am in 42_STABLE and I do have
>  RELENG_4 in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/4.x-stable-supfile.
>  I have made the last world on January the 8th and I am unable
>  to upgrade /usr/src ever since
>  sincerely
>  Filippo



Filippo,

I last remade my (FreeBSD :-) world on January 21st, 2000.


My (stripped) supfile:

*default host=3Dcvsup.dk.FreeBSD.org
*default base=3D/usr
*default prefix=3D/usr
*default release=3Dcvs
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress

src-all tag=3DRELENG_4

Regards,
Salvo

P.S. I have also been playing with cvssup (repo) & cvs checkout, and=20
remade a few -CURRENT worlds.





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On Monday, 22 January 2001 at  1:34:59 -0500, shivak wrote:
> I am using an onstream 30gb tape drive (at least, i'm trying to). the machine
> is an old 486 running 3.4 (because 4.x doesn't have matcd support). i
> compiled a custom kernel with ATAPI and wst0 (the name for my tape drive).
> The drive gets detected on boot, etc. However, whenever I do a certain
> operation on the drive (like a dump, tar, or even a cat /dev/rwst0), the
> machine freezes with a kernel panic:
> Fatal Trap 18: integer divide fault while in kernel mode
> there are a few things which make the problem more complex - first, an op
> like "mt -f /dev/rwst0 fsf 1" doesn't panic. second, there is no /dev/wst0
> device (although there is a /dev/rwst0), and MAKEDEV doesn't appear to *try*
> to make the device (when i browsed through the code, MAKEDEV only says to
> mknod for /dev/rwst). What could the problem be? thanks

It's normal not to have the /dev/wst.  Tapes are characeter devices,
so they traditionally have the letter 'r' at the beginning of the
name.

As regards the panic, you're going to have to get more details here.
The best thing would be a dump and a kernel with symbols.  Then we can
do some looking at the problem.

Greg
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Randy Primeaux schrieb:
> 
> what's the current preference for 4-STABLE ata RAID-1, hardware or software?

If you have the bucks for an external SCSI Raid subsystem, I would use
that. Otherwise, Vinum works here in an experimental server without
problems since four weeks.

HTH
-Christoph Sold


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On Tuesday, 23 January 2001 at 10:10:41 +0000, Ryan Dimbleby wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> FreeBSD alderaan.unr.ih.uk.colt.net 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #0:
> Fri Jul 28 14:30:31 GMT 2000
> jkh@ref4.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386
>
> I keep getting the following message during the 'make' of the new
> Kernal.
>
> Does anyone recognise it?
> [..]
>
> -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  vers.c
> linking kernel
> /usr/libexec/elf/ld:procfs_map.o: file format not recognized; treating
> as linker script
> /usr/libexec/elf/ld:procfs_map.o:1: syntax error
> *** Error code 1

My guess is that something crashed and left an invalid procfs_map.o
file lying around.  If you remove it and start again, it should work.

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Greetings,

How can I disklabel a partition within a virtual harddrive created using =
vn(4)?  I tried the following steps but they didn't work quite right.

truncate -s 16M hd.img
vnconfig -c -s labels hd.img
fdisk -I vn0
disklabel -w -B vn0s1 auto

The fourth step failed with EINVAL on ioctl(DIOCGDINFO).

I'm aware that there are alternative ways, such as putting a temporary =
entry in /etc/disktab and using it instead of `auto' keyword, or =
synthesizing a disklabel from scratch and applying it using disklabel =
-R.  But none of these methods seems suitable for automated scripts, =
which I need.

Could anyone shed a light on this?

Thank you in advance,

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David Kelly wrote:
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> On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 10:48:50AM -0500, FreeBSD Mailing List Info wrote:
> > One big diffrence I have discovered is that SUSE and Debian users
> > appear to be much smarter that the Red Hat weenies, who apparently haven't
> > figured out that this rpc.statd exploit, which will make many Red Hat machines
> > wide open to being rooted, just doesn't work on FreeBSD. I have yet to point
> > Netcraft ( or other methods ) back at one of these silly bastards and not find
> > out that they are Red Hat propeller-heads.
> [...]
> > Jan 23 01:06:33 not_a_linux_weenie /kernel: ipfw: X000 Count TCP 204.185.158.217:4808 XXX.XXX.XXX.X:111 in via mx0
> 
> Is that what all the recent activity has been about on port 111? Of late
> I'm getting hit on 111 more often than even 27374.
> 
> --
> David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm)
> ======================================================================
> The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
> capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.
> 
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Yes, same here on @home cable.  Rob (N3FT)


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Is there currently a port of some kind that will allow me to shape (place 
limits on throughput) IP traffic based upon IP and/or service type through 
ethernet interfaces other than ALTQ (since their main site seems to be down 
for information.).

Thanks.

  



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Has anyone out there had any luck with the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Jan 23 18:38:27 2001
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Hi,

Thank you for FreeBSD. I have a wonderfully stable new installation of:

FreeBSD mikesite.osg.net 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Nov 20
13:02:55 GMT 2000    
jkh@bento.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386

on a Pentium 166 Mhz. 32 Mb RAM, 1GB HDD system, and xdm, X,
Netscape_3.04g, gcc, g77 all working well.

Unfortunately any attemp to launch any JDK1.1.8 tool results in the
message:

/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libxpg4.so.2" not found

I've asked on the Newsgroup but no-one has replied with a solution,
therefore I am writing you directly for expert help.

It would most appreciated if you could inform me what it is I need to
install to obtain the nesessary support to develop and run Java1.1.8
application on FreeBSD/Xfrre86.

Thank you in advance,

Sincerely,

Mike Lundy
Kelowna BC
Canada

Appendix:
---------
Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a     49583    30250    15367    66%    /
/dev/ad0s1f    888487   369389   448020    45%    /usr
/dev/ad0s1e     19815     1802    16428    10%    /var
procfs              4        4        0   100%    /proc


> pwd
/var/db/pkg
> ll
total 61
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 01:30 ImageMagick-5.2.3
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 08:14 XFree86-4.0.1_8
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 22:02 XFree86-libraries-4.0.1_2
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 00:55 aalib-1.2
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:47 afterstep-1.8.4
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 23:20 apache-1.3.14
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:42 ascpu-1.9
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:42 asfsm-1.0.p15
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:42 aumix-gtk-2.7
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:41 autoconf-2.13
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:39 automake-1.4
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:42 base64-0.1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 23:24 bash-2.04
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 01:30 bzip2-1.0.1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:41 cal-3.5
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 23:37 f2c-2.0.1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 23:37 f77-0.3
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 23:37 fpp-1.1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 00:20 freetype-1.3.1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 01:38 ftptool-4.6
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 05:39 fvwm-1.24r
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:38 gcc-6811-2.6.3
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 00:22 gd-1.8.3
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 23:27 gettext-0.10.35
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 01:30 ghostscript-5.50a
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 00:55 gimp-1.1.29
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 23:36 glib-1.2.8
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:35 gmake-3.79.1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 00:22 gnuplot-3.7.1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 23:36 gtk-1.2.8
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 01:30 hdf-4.1r3
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:34 imake-4.0.1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:32 javavmwrapper-1.1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 01:30 jbigkit-1.2
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:32 jdk-1.1.8
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 00:08 jpeg-6b
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 09:49 lynx-2.8.3.1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:41 m4-1.4
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 01:30 mpeg2codec-1.2
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 00:55 mpeg_lib-1.3.1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 01:24 netpbm-9.8
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 21:40 png-1.0.8_1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 21:40 povray-3.1g
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:41 sliderule-1.0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 01:41 svgalib-1.4.2_1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 00:14 tiff-3.5.5
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 23:27 tin-1.5.6
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 01:30 transfig-3.2.3
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:42 unix2dos-1.2
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:48 unzip-5.41
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 23:27 uulib-0.5.13
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 00:18 xaos-3.0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:42 xengine-1.0.1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 00:17 xfractint-3.10
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 00:55 xpm-3.4k
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 23:20 xsysinfo-1.4a
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 00:14 xv-3.10a
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 01:38 xview-3.2.1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 16 23:36 xwhois-0.4.0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan 17 02:48 zip-2.3


> pwd
/usr/lib
> ll
total 20017
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel      512 Nov 20 03:56 aout
drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel      512 Jan 16 15:12 compat
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     1413 Nov 20 03:58 crt1.o
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     1896 Nov 20 03:59 crtbegin.o
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     2036 Nov 20 03:59 crtbeginS.o
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     1404 Nov 20 03:59 crtend.o
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     1488 Nov 20 03:59 crtendS.o
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel      657 Nov 20 03:58 crti.o
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel      621 Nov 20 03:58 crtn.o
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     1580 Nov 20 03:58 gcrt1.o
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     9259 Nov 20 04:01 kgzldr.o
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     6446 Nov 20 04:06 libacl.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 18:06 libacl.so -> libacl.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     8752 Nov 20 04:06 libacl.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     7102 Nov 20 04:06 libacl_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    52726 Nov 20 03:58 libalias.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       13 Jan 16 15:14 libalias.so ->
libalias.so.4
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    42564 Nov 20 03:58 libalias.so.4
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   189446 Nov 20 04:11 libasn1.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 18:09 libasn1.so ->
libasn1.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   116068 Nov 20 04:11 libasn1.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   198220 Nov 20 04:11 libasn1_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    11994 Nov 20 03:58 libatm.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 15:14 libatm.so -> libatm.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    10088 Nov 20 03:58 libatm.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1169076 Nov 20 03:59 libc.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel        9 Jan 16 15:16 libc.so -> libc.so.4
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   559196 Nov 20 03:59 libc.so.4
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1400314 Nov 20 03:59 libc_pic.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1417636 Nov 20 03:59 libc_r.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 15:21 libc_r.so -> libc_r.so.4
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   661500 Nov 20 03:59 libc_r.so.4
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     4304 Nov 20 03:59 libcalendar.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       16 Jan 16 15:21 libcalendar.so ->
libcalendar.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     5428 Nov 20 03:59 libcalendar.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    57646 Nov 20 03:59 libcam.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 15:21 libcam.so -> libcam.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    52876 Nov 20 03:59 libcam.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     6388 Nov 20 04:02 libcipher.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       14 Jan 16 17:54 libcipher.so ->
libcipher.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     7456 Nov 20 04:02 libcipher.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     7570 Nov 20 04:02 libcipher_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     3710 Nov 20 03:58 libcom_err.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       15 Jan 16 15:12 libcom_err.so ->
libcom_err.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    31620 Nov 20 03:59 libcompat.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       13 Jan 16 17:54 libcrypt.a ->
libdescrypt.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       14 Jan 16 17:54 libcrypt.so ->
libdescrypt.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       16 Jan 16 17:54 libcrypt.so.2 ->
libdescrypt.so.2
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       15 Jan 16 17:54 libcrypt_p.a ->
libdescrypt_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1275196 Nov 20 04:02 libcrypto.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       14 Jan 16 17:58 libcrypto.so ->
libcrypto.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   782200 Nov 20 04:02 libcrypto.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1362554 Nov 20 04:02 libcrypto_p.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:14 libcurses.a ->
libncurses.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       13 Jan 16 15:14 libcurses.so ->
libncurses.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 17:58 libdes.a -> libcrypto.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 17:58 libdes.so ->
libcrypto.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       14 Jan 16 17:58 libdes.so.3 ->
libcrypto.so.1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       13 Jan 16 17:58 libdes_p.a ->
libcrypto_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    16250 Nov 20 03:58 libdescrypt.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       16 Jan 16 17:54 libdescrypt.so ->
libdescrypt.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    11712 Nov 20 03:58 libdescrypt.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    18224 Nov 20 03:58 libdescrypt_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     9508 Nov 20 03:59 libdevstat.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       15 Jan 16 15:21 libdevstat.so ->
libdevstat.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    12188 Nov 20 03:59 libdevstat.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   122542 Nov 20 03:59 libdialog.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       14 Jan 16 15:24 libdialog.so ->
libdialog.so.4
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    90620 Nov 20 03:59 libdialog.so.4
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    33166 Nov 20 03:59 libdisk.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    73068 Nov 20 03:59 libedit.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:21 libedit.so ->
libedit.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    71964 Nov 20 03:59 libedit.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    39412 Nov 20 03:59 libfetch.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       13 Jan 16 15:21 libfetch.so ->
libfetch.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    34696 Nov 20 03:59 libfetch.so.2
-r--r--r--  3 root  wheel     1764 Nov 20 04:02 libfl.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    73588 Nov 20 03:59 libform.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:21 libform.so ->
libform.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    43508 Nov 20 03:59 libform.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    15306 Nov 20 03:59 libftpio.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       13 Jan 16 15:22 libftpio.so ->
libftpio.so.5
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    17300 Nov 20 03:59 libftpio.so.5
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   357134 Nov 20 03:59 libg2c.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 15:28 libg2c.so -> libg2c.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   117320 Nov 20 03:59 libg2c.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   142824 Nov 20 03:59 libgcc.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   143930 Nov 20 03:59 libgcc_r.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   151404 Nov 20 03:59 libgcc_r_pic.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   251052 Nov 20 03:59 libgmp.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 15:25 libgmp.so -> libgmp.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    97076 Nov 20 03:59 libgmp.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    27984 Nov 20 03:59 libgnuregex.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       16 Jan 16 15:25 libgnuregex.so ->
libgnuregex.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    27408 Nov 20 03:59 libgnuregex.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    46202 Nov 20 04:11 libhdb.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 18:09 libhdb.so -> libhdb.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    35568 Nov 20 04:11 libhdb.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    49374 Nov 20 04:11 libhdb_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    24556 Nov 20 03:59 libhistory.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       15 Jan 16 15:25 libhistory.so ->
libhistory.so.4
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    19644 Nov 20 03:59 libhistory.so.4
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    26660 Nov 20 03:59 libipsec.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       13 Jan 16 15:22 libipsec.so ->
libipsec.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    21864 Nov 20 03:59 libipsec.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     5528 Nov 20 03:59 libipx.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 15:22 libipx.so -> libipx.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     5428 Nov 20 03:59 libipx.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    47742 Nov 20 03:59 libisc.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 15:22 libisc.so -> libisc.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    37668 Nov 20 03:59 libisc.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    19516 Nov 20 04:06 libkadm.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 18:06 libkadm.so ->
libkadm.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    17128 Nov 20 04:06 libkadm.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    43796 Nov 20 04:11 libkadm5clnt.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       17 Jan 16 18:11 libkadm5clnt.so ->
libkadm5clnt.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    27144 Nov 20 04:11 libkadm5clnt.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    46930 Nov 20 04:11 libkadm5clnt_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    62996 Nov 20 04:11 libkadm5srv.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       16 Jan 16 18:11 libkadm5srv.so ->
libkadm5srv.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    40620 Nov 20 04:11 libkadm5srv.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    68030 Nov 20 04:11 libkadm5srv_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    20980 Nov 20 04:06 libkadm_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    13284 Nov 20 04:06 libkafs.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 18:06 libkafs.so ->
libkafs.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    10988 Nov 20 04:06 libkafs.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    14554 Nov 20 04:06 libkafs_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    18690 Nov 20 04:06 libkdb.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 18:06 libkdb.so -> libkdb.so.3
pw-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    15692 Nov 20 04:06 libkdb.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    20842 Nov 20 04:06 libkdb_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     3220 Nov 20 04:02 libkeycap.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   183254 Nov 20 04:06 libkrb.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 18:07 libkrb.so -> libkrb.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    94808 Nov 20 04:06 libkrb.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   278452 Nov 20 04:11 libkrb5.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 18:11 libkrb5.so ->
libkrb5.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   173016 Nov 20 04:11 libkrb5.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   305208 Nov 20 04:11 libkrb5_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   198064 Nov 20 04:06 libkrb_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    23100 Nov 20 03:59 libkvm.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 15:22 libkvm.so -> libkvm.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    19096 Nov 20 03:59 libkvm.so.2
-r--r--r--  3 root  wheel     1764 Nov 20 04:02 libl.a
-r--r--r--  3 root  wheel     1764 Nov 20 04:02 libln.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   274862 Nov 20 03:58 libm.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel        9 Jan 16 15:13 libm.so -> libm.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   118992 Nov 20 03:58 libm.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    42570 Nov 20 03:58 libmd.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       10 Jan 16 15:13 libmd.so -> libmd.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    35412 Nov 20 03:58 libmd.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    44070 Nov 20 03:59 libmenu.a
l-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    23716 Nov 20 03:59 libmenu.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    82286 Nov 20 03:59 libmp.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       10 Jan 16 15:25 libmp.so -> libmp.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    39916 Nov 20 03:59 libmp.so.3
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:14 libmytinfo.a ->
libncurses.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       13 Jan 16 15:14 libmytinfo.so ->
libncurses.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    57026 Nov 20 03:59 libncp.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 15:22 libncp.so -> libncp.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    43740 Nov 20 03:59 libncp.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   407570 Nov 20 03:58 libncurses.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       15 Jan 16 15:14 libncurses.so ->
libncurses.so.5
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   260380 Nov 20 03:58 libncurses.so.5
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    11902 Nov 20 03:59 libnetgraph.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       16 Jan 16 15:22 libnetgraph.so ->
libnetgraph.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    11092 Nov 20 03:59 libnetgraph.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   102528 Nov 20 03:59 libobjc.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    61162 Nov 20 03:59 libopie.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:22 libopie.so ->
libopie.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    33972 Nov 20 03:59 libopie.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    79410 Nov 20 03:59 libpam.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 15:22 libpam.so -> libpam.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    34588 Nov 20 03:59 libpam.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    21134 Nov 20 03:59 libpanel.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       13 Jan 16 15:23 libpanel.so ->
libpanel.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    12076 Nov 20 03:59 libpanel.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   118134 Nov 20 03:59 libpcap.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:23 libpcap.so ->
libpcap.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    94744 Nov 20 03:59 libpcap.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   850818 Nov 20 04:00 libperl.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:31 libperl.so ->
libperl.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   615436 Nov 20 04:00 libperl.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    16422 Nov 20 03:59 libposix1e.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       15 Jan 16 15:23 libposix1e.so ->
libposix1e.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    11012 Nov 20 03:59 libposix1e.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    10126 Nov 20 03:58 libradius.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       14 Jan 16 15:14 libradius.so ->
libradius.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    12764 Nov 20 03:58 libradius.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   214578 Nov 20 03:59 libreadline.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       16 Jan 16 15:27 libreadline.so ->
libreadline.so.4
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   147276 Nov 20 03:59 libreadline.so.4
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    42448 Nov 20 03:59 librpcsvc.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       14 Jan 16 15:23 librpcsvc.so ->
librpcsvc.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    27052 Nov 20 03:59 librpcsvc.so.2
 -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     9382 Nov 20 03:58 libscrypt.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       14 Jan 16 15:12 libscrypt.so ->
libscrypt.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     6460 Nov 20 03:58 libscrypt.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    25858 Nov 20 03:58 libskey.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:14 libskey.so ->
libskey.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    23756 Nov 20 03:58 libskey.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    25208 Nov 20 03:59 libss.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       10 Jan 16 15:23 libss.so -> libss.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    15932 Nov 20 03:59 libss.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   238240 Nov 20 04:02 libssl.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 18:00 libssl.so -> libssl.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   181148 Nov 20 04:02 libssl.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   252442 Nov 20 04:02 libssl_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   159752 Nov 20 03:59 libstand.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   518792 Nov 20 03:59 libstdc++.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       14 Jan 16 15:28 libstdc++.so ->
libstdc++.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   285964 Nov 20 03:59 libstdc++.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    11148 Nov 20 03:58 libtacplus.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       15 Jan 16 15:14 libtacplus.so ->
libtacplus.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    13816 Nov 20 03:58 libtacplus.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    59560 Nov 20 04:06 libtelnet.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    63726 Nov 20 04:06 libtelnet_p.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:14 libtermcap.a ->
libncurses.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       13 Jan 16 15:14 libtermcap.so ->
libncurses.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       14 Jan 16 15:14 libtermcap_p.a ->
libncurses_p.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:14 libtermlib.a ->
libncurses.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       13 Jan 16 15:14 libtermlib.so ->
libncurses.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       14 Jan 16 15:14 libtermlib_p.a ->
libncurses_p.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:14 libtinfo.a ->
libncurses.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       13 Jan 16 15:14 libtinfo.so ->
libncurses.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       14 Jan 16 15:14 libtinfo_p.a ->
libncurses_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     9200 Nov 20 03:59 libusb.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 15:23 libusb.so -> libusb.so.0
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     8832 Nov 20 03:59 libusb.so.0
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    47298 Nov 20 03:58 libutil.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:14 libutil.so ->
libutil.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    32736 Nov 20 03:58 libutil.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    29182 Nov 20 03:59 libvgl.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       11 Jan 16 15:23 libvgl.so -> libvgl.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    23820 Nov 20 03:59 libvgl.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    40968 Nov 20 03:59 libwrap.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:23 libwrap.so ->
libwrap.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    26624 Nov 20 03:59 libwrap.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel      822 Nov 20 03:59 libxpg4.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:23 libxpg4.so ->
libxpg4.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     2748 Nov 20 03:59 libxpg4.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     2120 Nov 20 03:59 liby.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    59684 Nov 20 03:59 libz.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel        9 Jan 16 15:24 libz.so -> libz.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    50640 Nov 20 03:59 libz.so.2
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     3172 Nov 20 03:59 pam_cleartext_pass_ok.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     3048 Nov 20 03:59 pam_deny.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     3968 Nov 20 03:59 pam_opie.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     3400 Nov 20 03:59 pam_permit.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     6584 Nov 20 03:59 pam_radius.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     3988 Nov 20 03:59 pam_skey.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    47636 Nov 20 03:59 pam_ssh.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     6432 Nov 20 03:59 pam_tacplus.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     4756 Nov 20 03:59 pam_unix.so


>pwd
/usr/lib
>ll
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel      512 Jan 16 15:40 aout
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    11312 Nov 20 04:00 atrun
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    37444 Nov 20 04:00 bootpd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    11872 Nov 20 04:00 bootpgw
-r-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel     2330 Nov 20 04:00 catman.local
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1689076 Nov 20 03:59 cc1
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1766644 Nov 20 03:59 cc1obj
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  2214372 Nov 20 03:59 cc1plus
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     8072 Nov 20 04:00 comsat
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    92696 Nov 20 03:59 cpp
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel      512 Jan 16 15:49 elf
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  2065240 Nov 20 03:59 f771
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     6344 Nov 20 04:00 fingerd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    68480 Nov 20 04:06 ftpd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     6320 Nov 20 04:00 getNAME
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    21052 Nov 20 04:00 getty
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    32232 Nov 20 04:11 hpropd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    30580 Nov 20 04:11 ipropd-master
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    29140 Nov 20 04:11 ipropd-slave
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    37608 Nov 20 04:11 k5admind
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    33076 Nov 20 04:11 k5passwdd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    13620 Nov 20 04:06 kauthd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    60300 Nov 20 04:11 kdc
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     7596 Nov 20 04:06 kipd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     9072 Nov 20 04:06 kpropd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    75152 Nov 20 04:00 ld-elf.so.1
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   123284 Nov 20 04:02 lint1
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    26680 Nov 20 04:02 lint2
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     4456 Nov 20 04:02 locate.bigram
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     6280 Nov 20 04:02 locate.code
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     2350 Nov 20 04:02 locate.concatdb
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     3128 Nov 20 04:02 locate.mklocatedb
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     3115 Nov 20 04:02 locate.updatedb
drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel      512 Jan 16 15:49 lpr
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    20668 Nov 20 04:00 mail.local
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     3508 Nov 20 04:00 makekey
-r-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel     2330 Nov 20 04:00 makewhatis.local
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     7956 Nov 20 04:00 mknetid
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   237988 Nov 20 04:00 named-xfer
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    11560 Nov 20 04:00 ntalkd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    12036 Nov 20 04:00 pppoed
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    18952 Nov 20 04:00 rbootd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     7604 Nov 20 04:00 revnetgroup
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    10232 Nov 20 04:00 rexecd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    10152 Nov 20 04:06 rlogind
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     7064 Nov 20 04:00 rpc.rquotad
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     9264 Nov 20 04:00 rpc.rstatd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     6848 Nov 20 04:00 rpc.rusersd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     6176 Nov 20 04:00 rpc.rwalld
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     4636 Nov 20 04:00 rpc.sprayd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    11456 Nov 20 04:06 rshd
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel      512 Jan 16 18:00 sendmail
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    18464 Nov 20 04:02 sftp-server
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel      512 Nov 20 03:56 sm.bin
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     6184 Nov 20 04:00 smrsh
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    75240 Nov 20 04:06 telnetd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    10640 Nov 20 04:00 tftpd
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel      512 Jan 16 15:50 uucp
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel     6568 Nov 20 04:00 uucpd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    12784 Nov 20 04:02 vfontedpr
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    14492 Nov 20 04:00 xtend
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      951 Nov 20 04:02 yppwupdate
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    20632 Nov 20 04:00 ypxfr


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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 09:37:20PM -0500, Ian Cartwright wrote:
> Has anyone out there had any luck with the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 
> and FreeBSD? Are there any special settings for using it in either the 
> console or X? I recently got one, but it jumps all over the screen. I've read 
> man pages for psm and moused and tried a few different tactics to make it 
> work with no luck...
> 
> Anyone able to make it work? Anyone having the same problem?
> 

If it's a USB one try the following. Not sure if the Intellimouse Explorer
is anything but USB.


rc.conf:
usbd_enable="YES"
moused_enable="YES"
moused_type="auto"
moused_port="/dev/ums0"

XF86Config for 4.0.2:
Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option      "Resolution" "200"
	Option      "Protocol" "MouseSystems"
	#       Option          "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
	#       Option          "Buttons" "5"
	Option      "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
EndSection
					

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Hello Walnut Creek CDROM Support,

I have a complaint and/or question regarding the availability of =
Partition Magic with your FreeBSD distribution.=20

I recently purchased the "BSD Desktop Edition" (FreeBSD OS 4.1) at a =
nearby CompUSA. This 4 CD kit includes PowerQuest's Partition Magic =
Special Edition on the 4th "Extra Packages" CD. But when I attempted to =
install and run Partition Magic I found that the apparently some file(s) =
of Partition Magic are missing.=20

According to the directions in the "ReadMe", after I installed and =
re-booted I should have been able to start the Prep OS utility and =
defined a partition for another OS. But there didn't appear to be any =
icon in the "PartitionMagic OS Prep Tool" START menu folder to do this =
as there was only the following choices:  "Delete FreeBSD Partition", =
"PowerQuest Web Site", "ReadMe" and "Uninstall PartitionMagic" . And =
there appeared to be no obvious application to execute to start it all =
off either.

Here's the details:

After installation the PM OS files on my hard disk are as follows:

 Volume in drive C is HP_PAVILION
 Volume Serial Number is 1D73-11EB

Directory of C:\Program Files\PowerQuest\PM OS Prep

.              <DIR>        01-20-01 11:23p .
..             <DIR>        01-20-01 11:23p ..
PARTIT~1       <DIR>        01-22-01 10:48p PartitionMagic OS Prep Tool
README   TXT         3,992  02-22-00  7:00p README.TXT
MOUSE    INI             0  02-23-00  3:00a MOUSE.INI
ICO            <DIR>        01-22-01 10:48p ICO
LOGO     PCX         1,428  02-23-00  3:00a LOGO.PCX
PARTINFO EXE       131,070  02-22-00  7:00p PARTINFO.EXE
PQOSPT   EXE       880,189  02-23-00  3:00a PQOSPT.EXE
PQOSPT   RTC           671  02-23-00  3:00a pqospt.rtc
1        PCX        32,814  02-23-00  3:00a 1.PCX
MOUSE    COM        37,681  02-23-00  3:00a MOUSE.COM
WEBPAGE        <DIR>        01-22-01 10:48p WEBPAGE
PQSRDA9X EXE       316,928  02-23-00  3:00a pqsrda9x.exe
PARTINFO PIF           967  01-22-01 10:56p PARTINFO.PIF
PARTINFO TXT         1,681  01-22-01 11:10p partinfo.txt
        11 file(s)      1,407,421 bytes

Directory of C:\Program Files\PowerQuest\PM OS Prep\ICO

.              <DIR>        01-22-01 10:48p .
..             <DIR>        01-22-01 10:48p ..
PQMAGIC  ICO         1,078  03-05-98  3:05a PQMAGIC.ICO
         1 file(s)          1,078 bytes

Directory of C:\Program Files\PowerQuest\PM OS Prep\PartitionMagic OS =
Prep Tool

.              <DIR>        01-22-01 10:48p .
..             <DIR>        01-22-01 10:48p ..
DEISL1   ISU         2,574  01-22-01 10:49p DeIsL1.isu
         1 file(s)          2,574 bytes

Directory of C:\Program Files\PowerQuest\PM OS Prep\WEBPAGE

.              <DIR>        01-22-01 10:48p .
..             <DIR>        01-22-01 10:48p ..
WEBPAGE  URL            51  02-23-00  3:00a WEBPAGE.URL
         1 file(s)             51 bytes

Total files listed:
        14 file(s)      1,411,124 bytes
        11 dir(s)       25,660.69 MB free

Incidentally, I DID try executing PQOSPT.EXE but only got an error =
message that a script file parameter was missing.

My system is a Hewlett-Packard Pavilion 8705 and its configuration:

OS Name Microsoft Windows       Version 4.90.3000   Build 3000
OS Manufacturer                 Microsoft Corporation
System Name                     LIBERATOR
System Type                     X86-based PC
Processor                       AMD Athlon(tm) Processor AuthenticAMD =
~856 Mhz
BIOS Version                    EPP revision 9.00
Windows Directory               C:\WINDOWS
System Directory                C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
Locale                          United States
Time Zone                       Eastern Standard Time
Total Physical Memory           255.45 MB
Available Physical Memory       14.23 MB
Total Virtual Memory            2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory        1.65 GB
Page File Space                 1.75 GB
Page File                       C:\WINDOWS\WIN386.SWP

Please take a look at this and if at all possible please make the =
missing file(s) available to me.

Respectfully,

Al Piccolo

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book">Hello Walnut Creek CDROM=20
Support,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book">I have a complaint and/or =
question=20
regarding the&nbsp;availability&nbsp;of Partition Magic with your =
FreeBSD=20
distribution. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book">I recently purchased the "BSD =
Desktop=20
Edition" (FreeBSD OS 4.1) at a nearby CompUSA. This 4 CD kit includes=20
PowerQuest's Partition Magic Special Edition on the 4th "Extra Packages" =

CD.&nbsp;But when I attempted to install and run Partition Magic I found =
that=20
the apparently some&nbsp;file(s) of Partition Magic are missing. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book">According to the directions in =
the=20
"ReadMe", after I installed and re-booted I should have been able to =
start the=20
Prep OS utility and defined a partition for another OS. But there didn't =
appear=20
to be any icon in the "PartitionMagic OS Prep Tool" START menu folder to =
do this=20
as there was&nbsp;only the following choices: &nbsp;"Delete FreeBSD =
Partition",=20
"PowerQuest Web Site", "ReadMe" and "Uninstall PartitionMagic" . And =
there=20
appeared to be no obvious application to execute to start it all off=20
either.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book">Here's the =
details:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book">After installation the PM OS =
files on my=20
hard disk are as follows:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book"></FONT><BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book">&nbsp;</FONT><FONT face=3DCourier =
size=3D2>Volume in=20
drive C is HP_PAVILION<BR>&nbsp;Volume Serial Number is =
1D73-11EB</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2>Directory of C:\Program =
Files\PowerQuest\PM OS=20
Prep</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier=20
size=3D2>.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&lt;DIR&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 01-20-01 11:23p=20
.<BR>..&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;=20
&lt;DIR&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 01-20-01 11:23p=20
..<BR>PARTIT~1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&lt;DIR&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 01-22-01 10:48p=20
PartitionMagic OS Prep Tool<BR>README&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
TXT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3,992&nbsp; =
02-22-00&nbsp;=20
7:00p README.TXT<BR>MOUSE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
INI&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;=20
0&nbsp; 02-23-00&nbsp; 3:00a=20
MOUSE.INI<BR>ICO&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;=20
&lt;DIR&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 01-22-01 10:48p=20
ICO<BR>LOGO&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
PCX&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1,428&nbsp; =
02-23-00&nbsp;=20
3:00a LOGO.PCX<BR>PARTINFO EXE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
131,070&nbsp;=20
02-22-00&nbsp; 7:00p PARTINFO.EXE<BR>PQOSPT&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
EXE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 880,189&nbsp; 02-23-00&nbsp; =
3:00a=20
PQOSPT.EXE<BR>PQOSPT&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
RTC&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
671&nbsp;=20
02-23-00&nbsp; 3:00a =
pqospt.rtc<BR>1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
PCX&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 32,814&nbsp; =
02-23-00&nbsp; 3:00a=20
1.PCX<BR>MOUSE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
COM&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
37,681&nbsp; 02-23-00&nbsp; 3:00a=20
MOUSE.COM<BR>WEBPAGE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&lt;DIR&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 01-22-01 10:48p=20
WEBPAGE<BR>PQSRDA9X EXE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
316,928&nbsp;=20
02-23-00&nbsp; 3:00a pqsrda9x.exe<BR>PARTINFO=20
PIF&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
967&nbsp;=20
01-22-01 10:56p PARTINFO.PIF<BR>PARTINFO=20
TXT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1,681&nbsp; 01-22-01 =
11:10p=20
partinfo.txt<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 11=20
file(s)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1,407,421 bytes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2>Directory of C:\Program =
Files\PowerQuest\PM OS=20
Prep\ICO</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier=20
size=3D2>.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&lt;DIR&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 01-22-01 10:48p=20
.<BR>..&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;=20
&lt;DIR&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 01-22-01 10:48p=20
..<BR>PQMAGIC&nbsp; ICO&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
1,078&nbsp; 03-05-98&nbsp; 3:05a=20
PQMAGIC.ICO<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1=20
file(s)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1,078=20
bytes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2>Directory of C:\Program =
Files\PowerQuest\PM OS=20
Prep\PartitionMagic OS Prep Tool</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier=20
size=3D2>.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&lt;DIR&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 01-22-01 10:48p=20
.<BR>..&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;=20
&lt;DIR&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 01-22-01 10:48p=20
..<BR>DEISL1&nbsp;&nbsp; =
ISU&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
2,574&nbsp; 01-22-01 10:49p=20
DeIsL1.isu<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1=20
file(s)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2,574=20
bytes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2>Directory of C:\Program =
Files\PowerQuest\PM OS=20
Prep\WEBPAGE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier=20
size=3D2>.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&lt;DIR&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 01-22-01 10:48p=20
.<BR>..&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;=20
&lt;DIR&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 01-22-01 10:48p=20
..<BR>WEBPAGE&nbsp;=20
URL&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
51&nbsp;=20
02-23-00&nbsp; 3:00a=20
WEBPAGE.URL<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1=20
file(s)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;=20
51 bytes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2>Total files=20
listed:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 14=20
file(s)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1,411,124=20
bytes<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 11=20
dir(s)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 25,660.69 MB =
free<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book">Incidentally, I DID try =
executing=20
PQOSPT.EXE but only got an error message that&nbsp;a script file =
parameter was=20
missing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book">My system is a=20
Hewlett-Packard&nbsp;Pavilion 8705 and =
its&nbsp;configuration:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier>OS Name&nbsp;Microsoft=20
Windows&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Version&nbsp;4.90.3000&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
Build 3000<BR>OS=20
Manufacturer&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Microsoft=20
Corporation<BR>System=20
Name&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
LIBERATOR<BR>System=20
Type&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
X86-based=20
PC<BR>Processor&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;AMD=20
Athlon(tm) Processor AuthenticAMD ~856 Mhz<BR>BIOS=20
Version&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
EPP revision 9.00<BR>Windows=20
Directory&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
C:\WINDOWS<BR>System=20
Directory&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM<BR></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DCourier>Locale&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
United States</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier>Time=20
Zone&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;East=
ern=20
Standard Time<BR>Total Physical=20
Memory&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2=
55.45=20
MB<BR>Available Physical =
Memory&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;14.23=20
MB<BR>Total Virtual=20
Memory&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
2.00=20
GB<BR>Available Virtual Memory&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
1.65=20
GB<BR>Page File=20
Space&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
1.75 GB<BR>Page=20
File&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
C:\WINDOWS\WIN386.SWP<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book">Please take a look at this and =
if at all=20
possible please make the missing file(s) available to me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book">Respectfully,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Franklin Gothic Book">Al =
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On 23 Jan 2001, at 16:25, John wrote:

> 
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm attempting to install 4.2-Release on an 'older' packard bell
> > > system.  I've read the archives and it seems that these systems are not
> > > exactly favorites for working well, but still, I'd like to give it a shot
> >:)
> > >
> > > The problem (occurred with both 4.1-Release and 4.2-Release ISO's that I
> > > d/loaded):
> > > Everything goes great, up until the file copies start occurring.  Every
> > > time it gets to the same point - copying over boot/support.4th, and the
> > > system hangs.  It seems odd though that not only does the system freeze
> > > solid, but it also prevents me from using the keyboard shortcut to switch
> > > ports on my KVM (keyboard input is completely locked out).
> > >
> > > The hardware:
> > > Packard Bell Legend 130CD Supreme
> > > CD Rom = NEC CDR-272 (4x)
> > > Processor = P100
> > > RAM = 72MB
> > > Motherboard = Packard Bell Agoura/Wildcat (Intel chipset, built by PB)
> > > Video = Built-in, Cirrus Logic Alpine GD5430 video chipset.
> > >
> > > Other:
> > > Chipset PCI064B Super I/O controller
> > > VL82C593 controller
> > >
> > > Any thoughts of what might be going wrong, and what might be a possible
> > > solution?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> >
> >Try installing and having the verbose console up. Press Alt-F2 to get to it.
> >Tell us what error messages it gives when it hangs.
> >
> >In general Packard Bells suffer from a couple of things.  One:  The 4x
> >cdroms aren't always fully IDE compatible.  Two:  They oftentimes have buggy
> >IDE controllers.  Three:  They are packard bells, and just suffer from all
> >sorts of evil other stuff.
> 
> Actually, I had been watching the verbose console the entire time.  When 
> the install hangs, there is NO error message.  It just sits there. And sits 
> there. And sits there. (until I hit reset).
> 
> Interesting fact: just for fun, I tried installing off of a set of 2.2.6 
> CD's that I have.  The install went beautifully smoothly - no problems at 
> all.  Then, after reboot, I get the lovely message that boot.config and 
> boot.help both can't be found, thereby giving me a useless system.
> 
> I'm thinking about just trying to find another motherboard to stick in this 
> thing, but being strapped for cash right now, that might not happen.  Any 
> other thoughts or ideas?
> 

Hmmm...It just so happens that I have one of those, and am able 
to duplicate the problem.  I can install 2.1.5 just fine, but 4.2 
chokes.  I even went to far as to put a buslogic SCSI controller and 
a 400 meg drive in it, and it still hung.  No error message.  I think 
that you are SOL.

Josh

> Thanks,
> John
> 
> 
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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 08:15:11PM -0600, Jeremy L. Ramirez wrote:
> Is there currently a port of some kind that will allow me to shape (place 
> limits on throughput) IP traffic based upon IP and/or service type through 
> ethernet interfaces other than ALTQ (since their main site seems to be down 
> for information.).

How about ipfw(8)?
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DISCLAIMER:  i have NO IDEA if this is the best (or even a good) solution,
but it worked for me, that's all. :)

I had a similar problem a while back ( don't remember what I was trying to
do ) with libxpg4.so.N and I found this in your appendix:

lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       12 Jan 16 15:23 libxpg4.so ->
libxpg4.so.3
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     2748 Nov 20 03:59 libxpg4.so.3


what I did was to 'ln -s libxpg4.so.3 libxpg4.so.4' and everything worked
fine.

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->/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libxpg4.so.2" not found
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Ian Cartwright wrote:

> Has anyone out there had any luck with the Microsoft Intellimouse
> Explorer and FreeBSD? Are there any special settings for using it
> in either the console or X? I recently got one, but it jumps all
> over the screen. I've read man pages for psm and moused and tried
> a few different tactics to make it work with no luck...
> 
> Anyone able to make it work? Anyone having the same problem?

You mentioned you were using a KVM switch in another message...  I'm
using a MS Intellimouse Optical at work, which uses the same protocol
as the Explorer.  I had problems using it with my 4-port Belkin KVM
switch, so I finally had to attach the Intellimouse Optical directly
to my FreeBSD box (using PS/2, not USB, though it works fine either
way) and use another mouse for the KVM switch for the other systems.  
One monitor, one keyboard and two mice still beats four monitors, four
keyboards, and four mice.  :-)


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Any and all,

I'm a new (several months old) user of FreeBSD 2.2. Using the really 
excellent Lehey book I have managed to set up an FTP/web/mail/DNS 
server on an old Pentium 100 with 103 MB RAM, which has been working 
quite nicely. I am quite impressed and in general have absolutely no 
complaints. Tons better and more organized than Linux, seems to me.

Last week, however, the computer experienced a power failure. Since 
then - and of course I can't really prove the correlation - the 
services which need to be run by inetd have been starting up VERY 
slowly, with delays of more than a minute before anything happens. 
The services where I've observed the problem are FTP, telnet, and 
pop3.

Once a service starts up, it operates without any problem and 
apparently at full speed. If I use the service again within a minute 
or two, there is little or no delay. If I wait longer, there is some 
delay. The full delay appears after I've left the system alone for a 
longer time.

At first I thought maybe the hard drive was spinning down or 
something, maybe a flipped controller option bit, but apache always 
responds without any delay, as does console login, so that theory 
seems untenable unless I'm being badly misled by data already in RAM, 
which I doubt.

I've learned my lesson and have a UPS on order, but I still have to 
fix the system. I tried killing inetd and restarting it, both with 
and without the -wW flags, but that didn't make any difference.

Here's a nice little mystery... we all love a mystery... don't we?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts or insights.

Regards,

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On Monday, 22 January 2001 at 20:59:09 -0500, Albert D. Cahalan wrote:
>
> David Kelly writes:
>> A small thing but last time I sat at a Linux keyboard "dir" did
>> the DOS thing, by default.
>
> ROTFL!!!
>
> How did you discover this? Perhaps you typed "dir" at the prompt?
> Fortunately, the command was there when you needed it. :-)
>
> I'm sure this command is really detrimental to the system. Heh.

I don't think that the command is detrimental.  It's in the nature of
UNIX to invent different names for things, and if you're used to it,
that's fine.  I've just checked on a RedHat 7.0 box and found that
yes, it's there.  The way it's done, though, is less than aesthetic:
it's a separate program, /usr/bin/dir:

[grog@capellorosso /boot]$ ls -il /usr/bin/dir /bin/ls
 286989 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        43740 Aug 25 23:54 /bin/ls
  79940 -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        43740 Aug 25 23:54 /usr/bin/dir
[grog@capellorosso /boot]$ cmp /usr/bin/dir /bin/ls
/usr/bin/dir /bin/ls differ: char 42009, line 134

This is, in fact, the only different byte.  In other words, it's so
close to being ls that it's not funny, but it's not quite the same
thing.  So why didn't they do a hard link rather than make people go
looking for the difference?

Greg
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On Monday, 22 January 2001 at  7:48:00 -0800, Steve M wrote:
>>> The *nix OS' lack sufficient documentation for the average
>>> user.  I'm a little above the average user so I've
>>
>> What an insult!  What about my book that was just
>> released?  And what about Greg's book "The Complete FreeBSD"
>> that has been out longer than that?  What is lacking in those
>> efforts?  And, the bookstores are stuffed with Linux books!!
>>
>> Your not going to get a manual, bound and all
>> that, for the $30 distribution cost of the CDs!  For that matter
>> you don't get a manual with Microsoft's products either unless
>> you spend $150 for the Resourse Kit
>>
>>>
>>> I'm not a geek nor do I profess to be one, I just dont have
>>> the time to putz around with a minor thing as
>>> compared to MS's way of doing something.
>>>
>>
>> If you took someone who has never seen, never touched a computer
>> before and sat them in front of a FreeBSD system, I wager it would
>> take just as long to train them to use it as to train them to
>> use Windows.  MS's way only seems easier because you learned it
>> first.
>>
>>> But I dislike MS for their business practices if anything,
>>> they totally insist on doing things in such a way
>>> that is to pretend there is no other way besides their way.
>>>
>>
>> Right - because they market to one-dimensional users that are
>> scared if they are given 2 different ways to solve a problem,
>> and asked to choose the best one.
>>
>>> Thanks for letting me vent and I hope I've got this stupid
>>> email formatted in a readable form.
>
> Let me point out a few things that I've found lacking in Greg's book,
>
> One is the reference to creating a link to the /var directory and
> moving it to /user/var.  I did that procedure *exactly*, as in to
> the letter.  What I got was either the directory not being about to
> mount upon boot up.  Having experienced that I decided I move
> /usr/var back to /var hoping it would go back to the way it was
> supposed to.  When it mounted the contents of the directory had
> disappeared I unmounted it forcefully and they had reappeared.  Oh
> well so now I dont mount it on boot up.  I fiddled with /etc/fstab
> with no success.

Hmm.  I've heard of a couple of people having problems with this
procedure.  I haven't heard of any having problems when they really
did it exactly as described, but obviously it's a good way to shoot
yourself in the foot, and I have a different recommendation for the
next edition.

> One other thing is setting up PPP, I've went over the suggestions in
> that chapter on setting it up and have not succeded in setting up my
> internet connection.

That's a popular problem.

> I've tried to use kppp from my xwin only to find that my modem hangs
> when it attempts to initialize.  I dont need to be told that it is a
> modem issue in this case, it is slowly dawning on me.

Don't count on it.  kppp is unsupported, and it might have bugs.  It's
also not the "UNIX way" to do things.

> Using ppp at the prompt, it dials out easy enough but doesnt log in.
> This particular issue has already been addressed by other people on
> this list.

Yes, that's possibly a compatibility problem.

> That and when I execute the CDplayer in xwin it complains about me
> not having permission.....I was in root.

Again, not part of FreeBSD.  I'm sure there's somebody on this list
who can help you.

> Ok, I will concede that I was being harsh about the lack of
> documentation.  There is documentation but so far from what I have
> seen there are *minor* discrepencies.  Not something I would base my
> judgment on if someone was wanting to convert to *nix.

There *is* a lack of documentation about the Ports Collection.  That's
largely out of our hands, though.

> Regarding Linux, I own the Running Linux (cowboy on the horse book
> by ORielly), it pretty helpful and I'm sure there are other books I
> can look at to get the answer.  But I dont want to spend 40-50 bucks
> on book after book to get an answer.

I found that particular book rather unhelpful.  It seemed too vague to
me.

> Don't forget that I also mentioned, what I feel is a legitamite
> gripe against RedHat or Linux, at one point when I was composing an
> email on my Linux WS my browser disappered.  At the time I was
> composing a pretty big email.

Well, I could say "well, what does that have to do with your mail".
But I suppose that was Netscape, over which we also have no control.
A real MUA is much more flexible and much, much more reliable than
Netscape.

> Basically what I'm trying to say is that there are places where *nix
> isnt the end all be all like some people would like me to belive.
> Just like MS wants me to belive.  But dont mistake my complaints as
> crucifixion, when I have to choose between OS' I'm always leaning
> towards the *nix side.

Sure, that's why I said "tell me what's wrong", not "what an insult".
We can always improve things.

Greg
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I have installed FreeBSD 4.1.1 and trying to compile kernel. For the first,
it's done.
For the second, when I was trying to add sound card, then the compiling
process was error altough  I tried to recompile with the last success
configuration.
I decided to reinstall my box, and tried to recompile again and still
failed. Here is my last failed configuration (after reinstallation):

-------------------
#
# GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
#
# For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
# Kernel Configuration Files:
#
#    http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are
# in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.8 2000/07/20 02:51:02 msmith
Exp $

machine		i386
# cpu		I386_CPU
# cpu		I486_CPU
cpu		I586_CPU
# cpu		I686_CPU
ident		HENDRO
maxusers	10

#makeoptions	DEBUG=-g		#Build kernel with gdb(1) debug
symbols

options 	MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
options 	INET			#InterNETworking
options 	INET6			#IPv6 communications protocols
options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep
this!]
options 	SOFTUPDATES		#Enable FFS soft updates support
options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
options 	MD_ROOT			#MD is a potential root device
# options 	NFS			#Network Filesystem
# options 	NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device, NFS
required
options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options 	CD9660			#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options 	CD9660_ROOT		#CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660
required
options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options 	COMPAT_43		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP
THIS!]
options 	SCSI_DELAY=15000	#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) support
options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores
options 	P1003_1B		#Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options		ICMP_BANDLIM		#Rate limit bad replies
options 	KBD_INSTALL_CDEV	# install a CDEV entry in /dev

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
#options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
#options 	APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O
# Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown):
#options 	NCPU=2			# number of CPUs
#options 	NBUS=4			# number of busses
#options 	NAPIC=1			# number of IO APICs
#options 	NINTR=24		# number of INTs

device		isa
device		eisa
device		pci

# Floppy drives
device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
# device		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device		ata0	at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device		ata1	at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device		ata
device		atadisk			# ATA disk drives
device		atapicd			# ATAPI CDROM drives
device		atapifd			# ATAPI floppy drives
# device		atapist			# ATAPI tape drives
options 	ATA_STATIC_ID		#Static device numbering
#options 	ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA	#Enable DMA on ATAPI devices

# SCSI Controllers
# device		ahb		# EISA AHA1742 family
# device		ahc		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx
devices
# device		amd		# AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
# device		dpt		# DPT Smartcache - See LINT for
options!
# device		isp		# Qlogic family
# device		ncr		# NCR/Symbios Logic
# device		sym		# NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
# options		SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
				# Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices
when 
				# both sym and ncr are configured

# device		adv0	at isa?
# device		adw
# device		bt0	at isa?
# device		aha0	at isa?
# device		aic0	at isa?

# SCSI peripherals
# device		scbus		# SCSI bus (required)
# device		da		# Direct Access (disks)
# device		sa		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
# device		cd		# CD
# device		pass		# Passthrough device (direct SCSI
access)

# RAID controllers
# device		ida		# Compaq Smart RAID
# device		amr		# AMI MegaRAID
# device		mlx		# Mylex DAC960 family
# device		twe		# 3ware Escalade

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device		atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD
device		atkbd0	at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
# device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12

device		vga0	at isa?

# splash screen/screen saver
pseudo-device	splash

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa? flags 0x100

# Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
#device		vt0	at isa?
#options 	XSERVER			# support for X server on a vt
console
#options 	FAT_CURSOR		# start with block cursor
# If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT
lines
#options 	PCVT_SCANSET=2		# IBM keyboards are non-std

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13

# Power management support (see LINT for more options)
device		apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power
Management

# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
# device		card
# device		pcic0	at isa? irq 10 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
# device		pcic1	at isa? irq 11 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000
disable

# Serial (COM) ports
device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
device		sio1	at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
# device		sio2	at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
# device		sio3	at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9

# Parallel port
device		ppc0	at isa? irq 7
device		ppbus		# Parallel port bus (required)
device		lpt		# Printer
device		plip		# TCP/IP over parallel
device		ppi		# Parallel port interface device
#device		vpo		# Requires scbus and da


# PCI Ethernet NICs.
# device		de		# DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
# device	fxp		# Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
# device		tx		# SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
# device		vx		# 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
# device	wx		# Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')

# PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
# device		miibus		# MII bus support
# device		dc		# DEC/Intel 21143 and various
workalikes
# device		rl		# RealTek 8129/8139
# device		sf		# Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
# device	sis		# Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS
7016
# device		ste		# Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
# device		tl		# Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
# device		vr		# VIA Rhine, Rhine II
# device		wb		# Winbond W89C840F
# device		xl		# 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'',
``Cyclone'')

# ISA Ethernet NICs.
device		ed0	at isa? port 0x240 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
# device		ex
# device		ep
# WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really
# exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed
# and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code.
# device		wi
# Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will
# work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP
# mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
# card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify
# those paremeters here.
# device		an
# Xircom Ethernet
# device		xe
# The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
# device		ie0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
# device		fe0	at isa? port 0x300
# device		le0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
# device		lnc0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
# device		cs0	at isa? port 0x300
# device		sn0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10

# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
pseudo-device	sl	1	# Kernel SLIP
pseudo-device	ppp	1	# Kernel PPP
pseudo-device	tun		# Packet tunnel.
pseudo-device	pty		# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
pseudo-device	md		# Memory "disks"
pseudo-device	gif	4	# IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
pseudo-device	faith	1	# IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)

# The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
# pseudo-device	bpf		#Berkeley packet filter

# USB support
# device		uhci		# UHCI PCI->USB interface
# device		ohci		# OHCI PCI->USB interface
# device		usb		# USB Bus (required)
# device		ugen		# Generic
# device		uhid		# "Human Interface Devices"
# device		ukbd		# Keyboard
# device		ulpt		# Printer
# device		umass		# Disks/Mass storage - Requires
scbus and da
# device		ums		# Mouse
# USB Ethernet, requires mii
# device		aue		# ADMtek USB ethernet
# device		cue		# CATC USB ethernet
# device		kue		# Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet

# Sound Card Sound Blaster
# controller pcm
device sbc0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15

-------------------

Can you help what is still wrong in my configuration?


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Remove the openssl port and use the version in the base system - it is
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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 04:25:07PM -0800, Kevin Hilbiber wrote:
>                    Free BSD'ers-
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>      i bought the 99.95 10 cd & book set.  i am struggling mightily to
> figure out unix et al..........but i got two copies of disc 1 and nil cop=
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> extra disc 1 for your extra disc 2..............

You need to contact the vendor of the product your purchased (probably
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> # Sound Card Sound Blaster
> # controller pcm

  ^--- the pcm device is required. Uncomment it.

> device sbc0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15

Kris

P.S. Looks like you have a bit of other stuff you can trim out of your
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Hi!
Everybody,

i have FreeBSD 4.2 Release installed, when i log on as normal user i am not able
to use 'su' command to get
root access i get error as

          $ su
                                su: you are not in the correct group to su root.

i want certain users to get root access, which are files to modify for above. i
tried /etc/group to make user
equivalent to root but it failed.
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You have to include the user in the group "wheel" in order for that user to su to
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Prasad.Chemburkar@Vashimail.ltitl.com wrote:

> Hi!
> Everybody,
>
> i have FreeBSD 4.2 Release installed, when i log on as normal user i am not able
> to use 'su' command to get
> root access i get error as
>
>           $ su
>                                 su: you are not in the correct group to su root.
>
> i want certain users to get root access, which are files to modify for above. i
> tried /etc/group to make user
> equivalent to root but it failed.
> Thanks in advance,
>
> bye
> prasad
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We use 'IPaddress<tab>OK' rather than the domain name.  The blocking is done
by IP address and the address of domain.com is not necessarily the same as
mail.domain.com.  Allowing the mail to pass based on domain name alone does
allow the possibility of unwanted email via forged Mail from address.

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>
> Running FreeBSD 4.x-STABLE and sendmail 8.11.1 ...
>
> Recently, I installed the BlackList/RBL and DUL rules into my sendmail.cf
> file, in order to curtail spam better ... works like a charm, but I want
> to use /etc/mail/access to let in a specific host that is blacklist'd ...
> I added 'domain<tab>OK' to the list, type'd 'make access.db', restarted
> sendmail, and they are still being rejected ...
>
> Does the mail-abuse.org rules override the use of the accessdb stuff?
>
> Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick:
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On Wednesday, 24 January 2001 at 16:27:21 +1100, Tony Landells wrote:
> I'm in the process of setting up a number of FreeBSD boxes and I'd
> like to have them all mirroring with vinum.
>
> What I can't work out is how to get vinum up and running with my
> mirrors for /var, /usr, etc. before I start installing packages.
>
> I've tried using the 2nd CD and doing the fdisk and disklabel from
> the command line, but while my fdisk seems to set the correct label
> on the disks (as shown by disklabel -r), I can't get it to update
> the "in core" data, which I think may then be upsetting vinum.
> Perhaps I just haven't done things in the right order...
>
> At the moment my best option seems to be to install on one disk,
> and then work through the boot disks for the other systems by
> installing them as a second disk, setting everything up and
> installing packages on it, then putting it back in the box it
> belongs to.
>
> There must be a better way.  I hope.

The "better way" is obviously to make sysinstall (or its successor)
Vinum-aware.  In the meantime, however, you can do this:

1.  Create the root file system normally.
2.  Next, create a swap partition *exactly* 265 (no, that's not a
    typo, 265, not 256) sectors larger than you want.
3.  Create all following file systems normally.
4.  Install FreeBSD.
5.  When you have finished the install, reboot to single user mode and
    use disklabel -e to shrink the size of the swap partition by 265
    sectors.  Create a Vinum partition starting from the new end of
    the swap partition and going to the end of the drive, overlaying
    all the file system partitions.  After that you can go into
    multi-user mode if you want.
6.  Carefully calculate the offsets and the lengths of the file
    systems.  Create a Vinum configuration file something like this:

    drive root dev /dev/ad0s1d
    volume usr
     plex org concat
      sd length 256m driveoffset 265s
    volume home
     plex org concat
      sd length 8g driveoffset 524553s

    The lengths and offsets need to be exact, of course.  The best way
    to get offset and length is from the last 8 lines of disklabel
    output.

7.  Change your /etc/fstab to look something like this:

     Device                Mountpoint      FStype  Options         Dump    Pass#
     /dev/ad0s1b           none            swap    sw              0       0
     /dev/ad0s1a           /               ufs     rw              1       1
     /dev/vinum/usr        /usr            ufs     rw              1       1
     /dev/vinum/home       /home           ufs     rw              1       1
     /dev/ad0s1e           /usr            ufs     rw,noauto       1       1
     /dev/ad0s1f           /home           ufs     rw,noauto       1       1

    The duplicate allocations are deliberate in case there are
    problems.

8.  Create the Vinum objects ("vinum create configfile").  This
    doesn't change anything in the file systems, which can be mounted
    at the time.

9.  Check you did it right by doing 'fsck -n /dev/vinum/usr', etc.
    You will get some errors, which you can ignore.  They come from
    the fact that fsck will be reading from disk, while there's
    modified metadata in buffer cache.  What you don't want to see are
    messages saying it can't find the superblock, which would indicate
    that you miscalculated the offsets.

10. Reboot.  You should come up running from Vinum.  If you have
    trouble, mount the disk partitions instead.

This method assumes you don't want swap under Vinum control.  If you
do, you'll need to move the swap partition 265 sectors further and
have the Vinum drive start immediately after the root file system.

Let me know how this works; normally I try these things out, but today
I had a power supply catch fire and kill the memory on the test box I
would have used, and I won't have it fixed in time.

Greg
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So far I haven't seen a single suggestion here that will
do anything to increase usage of encryption on the Internet.
You seem to be advocating an Internet where high encryption
is a product that is an extra add-on to IP communications and
should cost money, and we all should be paying fees to
the CA industry.  Obviously, normal economic forces will
naturally limit it's deployment.  It's a lot like the
governments attitude of let's keep the strong encryption
away from the people if we can.  From my point of view, I
don't see any reason why high encryption cannot
be built into all TCP/IP communication and just come as part
of the stack itself, and CA's be issued freely by any server.
After all, you can use any DNS server on the Internet to
look up names, and NTP services are free for the asking,
why should encryption certificates be any different?

Of course, if encryption should ever become as common as
the TCP/IP stack, there wouldn't be an industry of people
sitting around figuring out ways to make it more complicated
to use, or legally restricting it, or putting algorithims
for it under restrictive licenses, etc. etc.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Crist J. Clark
>Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 10:33 PM
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>authentication)
>
>
>On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 04:20:59AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>[80+ line rant deleted.]
>
>Good luck with the new medication. Looks like you still need to work
>on the dosage.
>-- 
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I remember running into this sort of thing during the
transition from the 2.1 series to the 2.2 series, but not
on a Packard Bell, on other hardware.  Other people during
that time also had similar problems.

I don't think there was any consensus on this, but I have a
guesstimate theory on it.  During that time there was a 
change in the compiler version, and I suspect that the newer
version of GCC generated code that does some operation which
has some problem with either certain hardware or certain CPU
versions.  The most likely candidates in my mind are the
caching hardware, because bugs in the motherboard CPU cache
were a known issue with systems of that era, even with other
operating systems like OS/2 and NT.  CPU bugs aren't 
entirely unknown with Intel CPU's either.

I do remember vividly having a 386 system which would crash on
a kernel recompilation with 2.2.x and run fine with a kernel
compilation with 2.1.x  I exchanged the 386 CPU in that system
with another system I happened to be working on one day and
the problem vanished.  Of course the old CPU worked fine in the
other hardware.  The only differences between the CPU's is the
location they were manufactured at, otherwise they were the same
stepping level.  This surprised me quite a bit because there were
no known CPU bugs that even the Intel Secrets site knew about
with those CPU stepping levels.  We probably will never know
the truth but I suspect that over the years there have been a
number of CPU bugs in Intel products that were quietly fixed
with mask changes and such and that were never publicized.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com

>> 
>
>Hmmm...It just so happens that I have one of those, and am able 
>to duplicate the problem.  I can install 2.1.5 just fine, but 4.2 
>chokes.  I even went to far as to put a buslogic SCSI controller and 
>a 400 meg drive in it, and it still hung.  No error message.  I think 
>that you are SOL.
>
>Josh
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Hie,

I keep lines like these in my security check output.

mwax kernel log messages:
 > arp: 208.148.168.47 moved from 00:c0:7b:6d:68:10 to 00:c0:7b:6c:dd:aa
 > arp: 208.148.168.45 moved from 00:c0:7b:6c:dd:aa to 00:c0:7b:6d:68:10
 > arp: 208.148.168.60 moved from 00:c0:7b:6c:dd:aa to 00:c0:7b:6d:68:10

Can someone please explain to me what they mean, whether they are or 
signify a problem and how I can get rid of them.

Kindest regards,

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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 10:39:27PM -0500, Ralph Dratman wrote:

[snip]

> ...the 
> services which need to be run by inetd have been starting up VERY 
> slowly, with delays of more than a minute before anything happens. 
> The services where I've observed the problem are FTP, telnet, and 
> pop3.
> 
> Once a service starts up, it operates without any problem and 
> apparently at full speed. If I use the service again within a minute 
> or two, there is little or no delay. If I wait longer, there is some 
> delay. The full delay appears after I've left the system alone for a 
> longer time.

Sounds like DNS problems. What happens if you execute the following on
the slow machine,

  % host <hostname or IP>

Where the IP address or hostname is that of a machine that you connect
from.
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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 12:27:03PM +0200, pgd@telehorizon.com wrote:

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> The output of ifconfig -a does not give anything strange (the two network cards
> are OK) and the subnet mask and the ip-numbers are also OK - i check them with
> an on-line utility (The ip address for the server(PC3) is 192.168.1.1 with
> netmask 255.255.255.0). 
> The message that i get when i'm trying to ping a client is:
>   PING 192.168.1.2 (192.168.1.2): 56 data bytes
>   ping: sendto: Host is down 
> -- the same when i'm pinging from a client to a server.
> Note the 1st NAT server works without any problem...
> The configuration for the 2nd NAT server is the same as for the 1st..
> Any idea where might be the problem?

'sendto: Host is down' means there is a link layer problem or your IP
config is wa-ay off. Are all of the link lights on your NICs on? Check
cabling. Check hardware. As for IP config, make sure both NICs are on
the same logical LAN.
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I may install FreeBSD today (first time in my live)
I played around with some linux distros and I wonder what desktopmanager I 
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 09:04:54AM +0200, Kondie wrote:
> Hie,
> 
> I keep lines like these in my security check output.
> 
> mwax kernel log messages:
>  > arp: 208.148.168.47 moved from 00:c0:7b:6d:68:10 to 00:c0:7b:6c:dd:aa
>  > arp: 208.148.168.45 moved from 00:c0:7b:6c:dd:aa to 00:c0:7b:6d:68:10
>  > arp: 208.148.168.60 moved from 00:c0:7b:6c:dd:aa to 00:c0:7b:6d:68:10
> 
> Can someone please explain to me what they mean, whether they are or 
> signify a problem and how I can get rid of them.

It means that the MAC address associated with the given IP has changed
from one value to the other. This generally indicates that the IP
address has moved from one physical machine (for PCs, a MAC typically
associates to the NIC not the PC itself) to another. This is logged
since it may be a security issue. Someone might be IP spoofing.
-- 
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* Hocking, David A <david.a.hocking@intel.com> [20010124 09:25]: writing on the subject 'DSL modem question'
Hocking,> Dear Sirs:
Hocking,> 
Hocking,> I have two PC's; one is now proudly running FreeBSD OS.  Can I use my
Hocking,> internal DSL modem/ISP service located in my Windows98 SE machine to connect
Hocking,> to the internet from my FreeBSD machine?  These two machines used to be
Hocking,> directly connected via ethernet(UTP, NIC cards, NE2000 compatible, no hub)
Hocking,> for file sharing when both were Windows machines.  I have a hub if I need to
Hocking,> use it.

The Redmond guys say you can do that. Connect them to a hub, go to the Windows box
and enable connection sharing on that interface. Then tell FreeBS that it has a friend
who could take it out for a walk - to the Internet.

defaultrouter="ip_address_of_windows_pc"

Change this is /etc/rc.conf and tell 'us' if it works. 

Hocking,> 
Hocking,> Am I dreaming?
Hocking,> 
Hocking,> How about;  Could I use my DSL modem and FreeBSD to connect to the internet
Hocking,> if I loaded FreeBSD in a dual boot scenario on one machine?


Just make sure that the card is supported by FreeBSD. Check the hardware section of the Handbook
at www.freebsd.org/handbook


Hocking,> 
Hocking,> What is the best way (protocol) to network the two machines?

TCP/IP

Use any other if you can compile it in FreeBSD kernel and set it up.


Hocking,> These questions may not be worthy.  I'm still doing my homework.  I did
Hocking,> manage to get FreeBSD installed and X11 configured with only the help of
Hocking,> available documentation.

Then you're on the right track, congratulations. Now you have KOffice and Conqueror,
maybe you can just trash the M$ ;-/

Hocking,> My interest in Unix stems from the fact that I "own" /maintain an
Hocking,> application that runs on a  SCO server at work.  We have professional
Hocking,> support, but that's no fun!!  UNIX is fun and it's become a real hobby for
Hocking,> me now.

Welcome aboard.


-Wash

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> I may install FreeBSD today (first time in my live)
> I played around with some linux distros and I wonder what desktopmanager I 
> can take/install
> 
Gnome,Kde,Afterstep,Windowmaker....



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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 09:16:35PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> So far I haven't seen a single suggestion here that will
> do anything to increase usage of encryption on the Internet.

Well, the problem being discussed had more to do with authentication
than just encryption.

> You seem to be advocating an Internet where high encryption
> is a product that is an extra add-on to IP communications and
> should cost money, and we all should be paying fees to
> the CA industry.  Obviously, normal economic forces will
> naturally limit it's deployment.

No one has proposed an inexpensive way to do good PKI. Thus, it will
cost money to do it.

> It's a lot like the
> governments attitude of let's keep the strong encryption
> away from the people if we can.

Again, encryption and authentication are different
problems. Encryption is easy compared to authentication.

> From my point of view, I
> don't see any reason why high encryption cannot
> be built into all TCP/IP communication and just come as part
> of the stack itself,

It is built into IPv6.

> and CA's be issued freely by any server.
> After all, you can use any DNS server on the Internet to
> look up names, and NTP services are free for the asking,
> why should encryption certificates be any different?

Because there is trust involved. If I said you could use my machine
for DNS, would you trust all of the results? That's one of the things
SSL takes into account, people hijacking DNS. If anyone can give out a
CA, why bother with CA's in the first place. Very loose authentication
is basically no authentication. In addition to having my DNS say that
another one of my machines www.americanexpress.com, I can just as
easily give out a cert verifying that I really am American
Express. Since I am ('cause everyone is) a valid CA, you'd believe
me.

> Of course, if encryption should ever become as common as
> the TCP/IP stack, there wouldn't be an industry of people
> sitting around figuring out ways to make it more complicated
> to use, or legally restricting it, or putting algorithims
> for it under restrictive licenses, etc. etc.

Again, encryption is relatively easy. Authentication is hard.
-- 
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* Jonathan Chen <jonathan.chen@itouch.co.nz> [20010124 09:24]: writing on the subject 'Re: ipfw/nat'
Jonathan> On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 03:42:12PM -0500, Andrew J. Siegel wrote:
Jonathan> > Alright just installed 4.2 w/ sysinstall....added options IPFIREWALL options
Jonathan> > IPDIVER options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD all to my kernnel config (icebox2)
Jonathan> > config'd and compile....did sysctl -a | grep fw...and fw.enable is set to
Jonathan> > 1....ipfw show issues one allow all for static commands, and something
Jonathan> > unknown for dynamic commands..
Jonathan> > 
Jonathan> > try adding ipfw add 500 divert natd all from any to any via rl0
Jonathan> > 
Jonathan> > and receive error:
Jonathan> > ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD) INVALID ARGUMENT
Jonathan> 
Jonathan> This usually indicates that you haven't *installed* a kernel with
Jonathan> IPDIVERT options set. Send the list of your dmesg output.

He can also read ALL the details there is:
www.defcon1.org/html/NATD-config/firewall-setup/ipfw-1.html

WARNING: Copy and paste this URL!! If you change anything you'll say it is broken.
 

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Hi!
At me of FreeBSD ver. 3.4.
I want to know in what package (file) there is a picture (screen saver)
of a desktop and console, which is named "daemon".
Could you suggest where she(it) is?
  

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Greg Lehey wrote:
> 

> > /usr/libexec/elf/ld:procfs_map.o:1: syntax error
> > *** Error code 1
> 
> My guess is that something crashed and left an invalid procfs_map.o
> file lying around.  If you remove it and start again, it should work.
> 
> Greg


Thanks.

'make clean' is my friend. :)

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To those who helped me with my question regarding mutt..thanks! 

My problem was that whenever I would save an email message, it would
save the files in my ~ directory.

I had the correct parameter set in my .muttrc

set folder="~/Mail"

However it would still dump all saved messages to my ~ directory
instead of ~/Mail.

I have found a work-around which is to cd to my ~/Mail directory
first, then start mutt.

Hope this helps someone in the future!

Mark


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> To those who helped me with my question regarding mutt..thanks! 
> 
> My problem was that whenever I would save an email message, it would
> save the files in my ~ directory.
> 
> I had the correct parameter set in my .muttrc
> 
> set folder="~/Mail"
> 
> However it would still dump all saved messages to my ~ directory
> instead of ~/Mail.
> 
> I have found a work-around which is to cd to my ~/Mail directory
> first, then start mutt.

Mmm. You shouldn;t have to do that. I don't.
I will look tonight at what I have for mutt..

Cliff




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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:45:38AM -0500, Mark B. Withers wrote:
> To those who helped me with my question regarding mutt..thanks! 
> 
> My problem was that whenever I would save an email message, it would
> save the files in my ~ directory.
> 
> I had the correct parameter set in my .muttrc
> 
> set folder="~/Mail"
> 
> However it would still dump all saved messages to my ~ directory
> instead of ~/Mail.

You were calling things,

  =filename

When you saved them, right?
-- 
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I use ADSL with FreeBSD. My ethernet device which is connected to my
DSL modem uses DHCP to have an ip address assigned.

I am not aware of why you have to assign an ip address to your windows
box using PPPTP as that is over my head.

Mark

On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 09:38:44AM -0500, Julien Pham wrote:
> I just read your info about how to configure ADSL with FreeBSD... And thanks
> for the info...
> 
> But I wonder something : why shouldn't we assigned an ip address for the
> ethernet card connected to the DSL modem ? With windows and PPTP I have to
> assign IP address 10.0.0.10.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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Could it be because I start mutt from another console window with
screen? 

Mark

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:50:04AM -0500, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> > To those who helped me with my question regarding mutt..thanks! 
> > 
> > My problem was that whenever I would save an email message, it would
> > save the files in my ~ directory.
> > 
> > I had the correct parameter set in my .muttrc
> > 
> > set folder="~/Mail"
> > 
> > However it would still dump all saved messages to my ~ directory
> > instead of ~/Mail.
> > 
> > I have found a work-around which is to cd to my ~/Mail directory
> > first, then start mutt.
> 
> Mmm. You shouldn;t have to do that. I don't.
> I will look tonight at what I have for mutt..
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I usually type in my own file names when I save messages. Mutt tends
to create it's own filenames based on the "from" field before the
"@host.com".

Mark

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:55:33AM -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:45:38AM -0500, Mark B. Withers wrote:
> > To those who helped me with my question regarding mutt..thanks! 
> > 
> > My problem was that whenever I would save an email message, it would
> > save the files in my ~ directory.
> > 
> > I had the correct parameter set in my .muttrc
> > 
> > set folder="~/Mail"
> > 
> > However it would still dump all saved messages to my ~ directory
> > instead of ~/Mail.
> 
> You were calling things,
> 
>   =filename
> 
> When you saved them, right?
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Hi

I want to setup KDE in FreeBSD
What is the most convenient way [for a newbie as I am] to setup the X-server?

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Jaap van Hennik schrieb:
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> I want to setup KDE in FreeBSD
> What is the most convenient way [for a newbie as I am] to setup the X-server?

Use the standard installation, then select any of the preconfigured
installations with X. You'll be asked which GUI to install (at this
time, at least KDE, Gnome, and fvwm will show up).

HTH
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Hello,

Trying to use mutt as my everyday mailer and am having problems sending
email.  Evidently my local address is resolved with a DNS lookup and
I keep getting From:kelly@sd3.mailbank.com back from any test messages
I transmit.  Added disable_dns_lookups = yes to my main.cf file in 
Postfix and am still having problems.  I've also tried masquerading and
added a sender_canonical_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_canonical entry
in my main.cf.  Didn't have this problem with Pine (which I figure does
it the wrong way ;)  Just wondering what I'm doing wrong?

Kelly

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On Wednesday 24 January 2001 06:42, you wrote:
>
>           $ su
>                                 su: you are not in the correct group to su
> root.
>

You should add the accounts that are allowed to become root to the wheel 
group. Either edit /etc/groups and add the user to the wheel group (top line 
will be: "wheel:*:0:root,user1,user2" for example). Don't add too many 
accounts that aren't your own to the wheel group.

You can also do this when creating new accounts through sysinstall or by 
running adduser from the command line. Here you can enter member groups that 
your user belongs to including wheel. 


Danny


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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 05:35:52AM -0500, Kelly Hendrix wrote:
> Trying to use mutt as my everyday mailer and am having problems sending
> email.  Evidently my local address is resolved with a DNS lookup and
> I keep getting From:kelly@sd3.mailbank.com back from any test messages
> I transmit.  Added disable_dns_lookups = yes to my main.cf file in 

If the problem is that you want a "generic" email address there
instead of your userid@host, then try this line in the configuration
of mutt:

my_hdr From: Edwin Groothuis <mavetju@chello.nl>

Edwin

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Hi,

I'm trying to find out if a FreeBSD driver is available for the Intel 82559 Fast
Ethernet controller.  I've searched the FreeBSD web site but without success so
far.  I'd be very grateful if you could let me know if a FreeBSD driver exists
for this chip.  

Many thanks,
Steve 

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can anyone help with this? network and sound cards.

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hi..

been messing around with freebsd recently on an old P100. i want to know about 
its compatibility with a cpl of cards i have in there.

one is an old non p-n-p dlink de220ct isa network card. it uses a dl2517 chip 
but i'm unsure of which driver this will match with. is it a ne2000 clone or 
will it require ibm or some other drivers? i've looked through the website for 
documentation
on d-link but no joy. i actually have access to quite a few slightly differing 
versions of this card if that will help.

the other card is a much newer (1998 i think) diamond multimedia pci sound 
card. it seems to be based around an ess maestro-2 chip. i dont know much 
about this one as the diamond site is a bit lacking in legacy info. i have got 
it working in windoze95. it appears to be a 'sonic impact' card. no fcc id but 
it has p/n 23010117-002

having demonstrated to myself that i can use my modem with freebsd, i'm keen 
to do away with the dos partition altogether and use this box as a gateway for 
my other machine (sparc classic running netbsd) or possibly the other way 
around. to do this tho i must get the network card working.

incidentally - i know the irq and mem address set in the dlink card from 
running the diag prog in w95.

any help would be much appreciated.

GREG



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Hi all,

I am trying to install FreeBSD 4.2 to my laptop. I am using a 3Com
3CCFE575CT PCMCIA network card to do this install. I am having no joy
:( I have also tried using the cdrom drive that is supplied with the
laptop with the same result. The cdrom drive is also PCMCIA.

The laptop is a Sony vaio PCG505. Is what I am trying to do even
possible? More detail below :

When I boot from the floppy disks, I am asked if I wish to use pccards
for the installation. I say yes. It then asks me for a Memory address
and I select default. It then asks me for an IRQ and I selected 10.

It then says last chance to swap boot media for install media if I
need it. I select ok, and it probes devices. 

The other path I tried was to boot off of the CD in the pcmcia CDROM
drive. The boot process goes fine, but then when I try and select the
CDROM drive as my install media, it says no cdrom drives found.

If I then Alt-F2, I see a message saying:
DEBUG: ioctl(3, TIOCCONS, NULL) = 0 (success)
poccard: card inserted, slot 0

I then go into options and set DHCP to yes (default is no)

I then tried to select
6 NFS as my media type under the options menu. It asks me for the full
NFS specification for the remote host.
I enter 
machinename:/mnt/cdrom

It then asks for Network interface information and presents me with 3
options. 
lp0
sl0
ppp0

I don't see a network card as an option there. If I remove and
re-insert the card, still no joy.

Any assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated!

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Hello!!

I want to install IPv6 code of INRIA and I need FreeBSD 3.4. Do you know
where can I get the 1st CD of El torrito? (it isnt in
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/)

If not, do you know if 3.5.1 kernel source files are compatible with 3.4 ?


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        "mount /cdrom"
	then "cd /cdrom" to read from the disk 

On 2001.01.23 11:07:47 -0500 Joe Astrologo wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Hi How do I mount a cdrom?
> I have FreeBSD Version 4.1.
> It seems I'm missing the libc.so.5 library file and I want to extract it
> from my cdrom.
> 
> Joe Astrologo
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HI, Andre'
Try to use natd daemon with -redirect_port option.

"Andre' van Schalkwyk" <andrevs@femail.ddsecurity.co.za> wrote in message
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>
> hi,
> i have a freebsd box that is sitting on the outside of the network. the
> freebsd box has two network interfaces. one interface on the internet side
> with a ip of 196.38.x.x and the other interface with an ip of 10.0.0.1.
> the freebsd box is running squid, exim and apache with ipfw enabled. all
> the webpages are hosted on the the fbsd box and works well as can only be
> expected from apache. the problem is, there is a website running on a
> winNT machine on LAN. the machine has an ip of 10.0.0.2. the page has to
> run on the winNT machine. people from the outside (internet) must be able
> to see this webpage.
>
> i was thinking in the lines of using ipfw to redirect all data going to
> 196.38.x.x :70 to 10.0.0.2:80.
> these are the commands i've tried useing.
>
> ipfw add 600 fwd 10.0.0.2,80 tcp from any to 196.38.x.x 70
> ipfw add 600 fwd 10.0.0.2,80 tcp from any to 196.38.x.x 70 via fxp0
>
> i've also made sure that all packets are allowed to 196.38.x.x,10.0.0.2
> and 127.0.0.1
>
> i don't know what to do any more.
>
> i have had a look at apache's reverse proxy, but that is even more
> confusing than ipfw :)
>
>
> any help would greatly be appreciated.
>
> thanks
>
> Andre'
>
>
>
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Andrew J. Siegel stated:

> Alright just installed 4.2 w/ sysinstall....added options IPFIREWALL
> options IPDIVER options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD all to my kernnel config
> (icebox2) config'd and compile....did sysctl -a | grep fw...and
> fw.enable is set to 1....ipfw show issues one allow all for static
> commands, and something unknown for dynamic commands..
> 
> try adding ipfw add 500 divert natd all from any to any via rl0
> 
> and receive error:
> ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD) INVALID ARGUMENT
> 
> what's going on

I had the exately same error last night. I compiled a new kernel, but
forgot that i have updated the source. So I had to make buildworld
before i could continue. It is working perfectly nice now...



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How do you list what ports have been installed?

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Hi,

Because of hardware troubles (running out of diskspace) I want
to redirect the connections on port 119 of my.news.machine to another
news server (which only allows my.news.machine to connect, so
my users can't connect directly to the other/new/temp news server).

Are their any ('native') BSD tools to do this ? 

Thanks,
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 08:06:36AM -0600, Matt Delaine wrote:
> How do you list what ports have been installed?

use pkg_info(1), I usually use pkg_info -aI which does each package
on a single line.

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:17:41PM +0000, Bart Pustjens wrote:
> to redirect the connections on port 119 of my.news.machine to another
> news server (which only allows my.news.machine to connect, so
> my users can't connect directly to the other/new/temp news server).

Checkout /usr/ports/sysutils/socket for a nice tool for this.

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I'm attempting to download apsfilter source from your website, and gunzip
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Jan 24  6:42:53 2001
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    Does anyone know of any mirror sites for www.freebsdzine.org?
It seems to be down at the moment, and I was specifically
interested in their article on upgrading to XFree86 4.0.2.
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jshenry@net-noise.com (J. Seth Henry) writes:

> This is an easy one - sftp. It is included in every distribution of ssh that
> I've seen, and works just like traditional ftp.

Only of the ssh2 protocol.  The ssh implementation in the recent
FreeBSD base system, for example, doesn't include it.

I tend to find scp more convenient for my purposes anyway, but that's
because I usually know the exact names and locations of files before
the transfer.

The original poster had asked:

> Now that I've wrapped pop3 and IMAP in SSL, my last unsecure service
> is FTP.  What are people using as a replacement to transfer files?
> I am particularly interested in a method that could be recommended to
> my Windows users (i.e. need some graphical client for Win).

and there are, indeed, graphical sftp clients for Windows, although I
don't know if any are free.  It's probably more common to use SMB
networking and try to make it safe by aggressive firewalling (and
tunneling, if necessary).  There are other possibilities that might be
useful in some circumstances, like wrapping the FTP control
connections and not worrying about the data, using HTTP for file
sharing, and probably dozens of others, but the "best" answer is 
definitely subject to local requirements.


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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 09:25:44AM -0500, Dulecki, Corey wrote:
> I'm attempting to download apsfilter source from your website, and gunzip
> doesn't recognize this file format (bz2).  What program is required to
> uncompress this file?  Thanks in advance.

bzip2, it's in /usr/ports/archives/bzip2

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Jan 24  7:11:34 2001
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Hi Folks,
This might be a very stupid question. But I need some help.
Because of the Win2000 lockup on a terminal software "Exceed", I was
running some process on there and now I can not tell if it is done or not.
If I reboot the Win2000 Professional then I may be killing a running
process which may crash my Database Server.

I know if I should have used 'Screen'.
Is there any way I can capture the process of that terminal session from
another terminal session. 
Or
Is there anyway root can put a process to run in the background that
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Please help.

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	Does anyone know what's going on with Bill Gate's website ?? :-)








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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Jan 24  7:27:25 2001
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Edwin Groothuis wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:17:41PM +0000, Bart Pustjens wrote:
> > to redirect the connections on port 119 of my.news.machine to another
> > news server (which only allows my.news.machine to connect, so
> > my users can't connect directly to the other/new/temp news server).
> 
> Checkout /usr/ports/sysutils/socket for a nice tool for this.

socket can't really redirect it from one machine on the net
to another (unless you put it in inetd). Are their any other
options ? (ipfw ?)

With regards,
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i heard it was hacked but i cant confirm it as their www seems to be down.

Microsoft: "Where would you like to go to today"
Linux: "Where would you like to go tomorrow"
FreeBSD: "Hey,when are you guys going to catch up"


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Maybe someone threw holy water on it.

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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Matt Delaine wrote:

> How do you list what ports have been installed?
> 

ls /var/db/pkg

> Matt Delaine
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> 

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[Redirected to freebsd-questions]

>I'd like to get the settings in the right place so I'm asking the
>experts. Freebsd 4.2 release with firewall type set to "simple".
>It works but I'd like to allow 2 things through.
>SSH connections from the public side to the firewall.
>Connections to a Web server on the inside.


Check out my cheat sheet on IPFW at
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:31:52AM -0500, Stephen Hovey wrote:
> Maybe someone threw holy water on it.

The internet automaticly routes around problems.

Edwin (donno where I read it)

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Jan 24  7:48:36 2001
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I've got a server setup with ~30 jail environments, and growing, that are
used as "dedicated cyrus imap servers" ... works like a charm ... but, I
want to be able to upgrade the world inside of the jail to reflect the
machine itself, as I upgrade it ...

What is the simpliest way to do this?

Looking at the jail man page, to setup the jail requires:

     D=/here/is/the/jail
     cd /usr/src
     make hierarchy DESTDIR=$D
     make obj
     make depend
     make all
     make install DESTDIR=$D
     cd etc
     make distribution DESTDIR=$D NO_MAKEDEV=yes
     cd $D/dev
     sh MAKEDEV jail
     cd $D
     ln -sf dev/null kernel

now, I'm figuring that I should be safe with doing:

D=/here/is/the/jail
cd /usr/src
make buildworld
make installworld (install to base machine)
make installworld DESTDIR=$D (upgrade jail itself)
mergemaster (update config files for base machine)
mergemaster -D $D (update config files for jail env)

and that's it ...

Can anyone suggest anything wrong with that?  Something I'm
mis-understanding or overlooking?

Thanks ...

Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
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Okay low level format the hard drive. Fresh install from 4.2 cdrom.
This time I did not run the XF86Setup routine out of sysinstall.

Logged in as root. Ran XF86Setup. The time the mouse actually configured
correctly and I finished the configuration with no errors, ran vidtune
accepted defaults, had it make the link for startx.

As root tried to execute startx

execv failed for /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 (errno 2)
_X11TranSsocketUnixConnect: Can't connect: errno=2
This is repeated 6 times
giving up
xinit No such file or process errno2 unable to connect to X server
xinit No such process (errno3) Server error

X is linked to the svga server in /usr/X11R6/bin/
Xwrapper is installed

I tried running xc86config, same result

I'm baffled.

This is the 4th failure now all on fresh installs.

My complaint has more to do with mistakes like leaving out the
system.fvwmrc files in FreeBSD 4.1 and not configuring kpanel and kfm to
start up by default in KDE. The entire X situation just needs some more
attention paid to preconfiguring various window managers. I can't believe
how plain fvwm2 is as shipped.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you,

peter

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Christopher Farley wrote:

> pstern (pstern@ptialaska.net) wrote:
>
> > I will try to do another install Tuesday night but I was using sysinstall
> > to do the configuration initially and it sure looked like the old
> > XF86Setup program to me. I also tried the older xf86config script with
> > no luck. I'm not sure what you mean by build fonts during the install. I
> > selected both the 75 and 100 dpi font packages for installation. I was
> > under the assumption that the default install was XFree86 4.0.1 am I wrong
> > and it installs 3.36?
>
> The base FreeBSD system includes XFree-3.3.6, not 4.0.1.
>
> Personally, I have a video card not supported by XFree-3, so I install
> FreeBSD without X support, and then install XFree-4 from the ports.
>
> > I have never had to install the wrapper before to run X as nonroot. When
> > did this change? I did not select it during the 4.1 install and I can run
> > X without trouble as nonroot.
>
> XFree-3 ran setuid root, which is somewhat dangerous from a security
> standpoint. In general, big complicated programs should not run as root.
> If you install XFree4 from the ports, you will also need to install
> Xwrapper if you plan to launch X from a console with "startx".
>
> Personally I like the way FreeBSD "integrates" X. I recently spoke to
> a Linux user who had never seen a plain text console display.
>
> --
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I can't login as root due to an invalid shell setting in the user database.
The shell selected is kcsh which does not exist in my bin directory.
Because of this I cannot login as root.  Any attempt to copy or rename csh
to kcsh fails because I do not have permission.  Any help would be
appreciated.




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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:49:38AM -0500, rmichalski@enwin.com wrote:
> I can't login as root due to an invalid shell setting in the user database.
> The shell selected is kcsh which does not exist in my bin directory.
> Because of this I cannot login as root.  Any attempt to copy or rename csh
> to kcsh fails because I do not have permission.  Any help would be
> appreciated.

Boot in single-usermode (at the ten seconds delay during startup),
then you can edit the file /etc/passwd. Maybe you need to mount
the filesystems manually, maybe you need to use ed instead of vi.

I always found it an interesting experience when I had to fix my
system :-)

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Crist J. Clark
>Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:02 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
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>Subject: Re: imap and pop3 via stunnel (was: UW-IMAP server and secure
>authentication)
>

>
>No one has proposed an inexpensive way to do good PKI. Thus, it will
>cost money to do it.
>

my point.  However, it doesen't mean that it can't be done.

>
>Because there is trust involved. If I said you could use my machine
>for DNS, would you trust all of the results? That's one of the things
>SSL takes into account, people hijacking DNS. If anyone can give out a
>CA, why bother with CA's in the first place. Very loose authentication
>is basically no authentication. In addition to having my DNS say that
>another one of my machines www.americanexpress.com, I can just as
>easily give out a cert verifying that I really am American
>Express. Since I am ('cause everyone is) a valid CA, you'd believe
>me.
>

Exactly the same situation exists with BGP4 routing on the Internet.
To participate in BGP4, in essense the entire Internet must trust you
to not screw them by injecting bad routing data into the Internet
route tables.  However, with all the feed contracts I've ever seen, the
costs of handling BGP4 are simply part of the feed itself.

There's a basic cost to setting up an IP stack to exchange packets with
other IP stacks on the Internet, for most people it takes the form of
a $20-per-month charge for access, for some it's other types of access.
There's no reason that encryption/authentication cannot be part of that
fee, the same way that the BGP4 routing service is part of the feed cost
for ISP's.

>> Of course, if encryption should ever become as common as
>> the TCP/IP stack, there wouldn't be an industry of people
>> sitting around figuring out ways to make it more complicated
>> to use, or legally restricting it, or putting algorithims
>> for it under restrictive licenses, etc. etc.
>
>Again, encryption is relatively easy. Authentication is hard.

The problem is that most of the encryption people understand
that if they can separate the encryption/authentication service
from the basic IP connectivity service, they can get more money
for it.  It's not that it's hard to do, it's that there's a
disturbing trend to unbundle services on the Internet to get more
money for them.  The situation with DNS is a perfect example.
Early on, it didn't cost anything at all to name a system in DNS,
then NSI came along and some bright boy got the idea they could
charge money for it, and now you have the current mess with idiots
paying millions of dollars for television.com.  Yet, for all the
extra money people are paying for domain names, all that cash hasn't
improved DNS any, made it more secure, for example.  All it's done is
created a lot of jobs for people selling advertising.  If the
encryption people have their way then the PKI industry is going to
end up the same way.

>-- 
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>
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I've read the man for vinum and tried different configs; what's the best 
way to set that up to perform raid? Also, any ideas on the best method for 
redundant servers.

Jeff

At 1/24/2001, you wrote:


>Randy Primeaux schrieb:
> >
> > what's the current preference for 4-STABLE ata RAID-1, hardware or 
> software?
>
>If you have the bucks for an external SCSI Raid subsystem, I would use
>that. Otherwise, Vinum works here in an experimental server without
>problems since four weeks.
>
>HTH
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Hello,

I have an alpha 164sx with freebsd installed. The OS
is on a scsi disk driven by a fireport 40. I didn't
realise during the install that the alpha SRM console
can't talk to the fireport. So now I can't boot the
system from the scsi disk. I should be able to use the
kern.flp disk to boot a kernel tell the kernel to use
my scsi disk as the rootdev. Does anyone know how I
would go about doing this? I have tried 

boot dv -file /kernel -flags c

to enter userconfig but I do'nt get any change in the
boot up, the kernel is loaded and before anything else
happends I am asked for MFS floppy. 

Can anyone suggest a solution?

thanks
matthias

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Thanks for the response.

I'll try "lpc clean all" next time, if that doesn't work,
I'll unplug and re-plug the printer in.



On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:35:43AM +0300, Corvette wrote:
> * Tony Wells <awells@journalstar.com> [20010123 20:21]: writing on the subject 'Re: killing print command'
> Tony> I'm guessing it's buffer memory in the printer that keeps re-issuing
> Tony> the job.  Turning off the printer from the switch might not do the
> Tony> trick, try unplugging it so the printer actually loses power.
> Tony> 
> Tony> David Banning wrote:
> Tony> > 
> Tony> > I have printed something.  Now I don't want it to print.
> Tony> > There is nothing listed with "lpq"
> Tony> > There is no print job number to issue with "lprm"
> Tony> > I keep turning my printer off.  When it resets, it starts printing again.
> Tony> > 
> Tony> > There must be some kind of buffer in the computer memory, behind the scenes
> Tony> > feeding this stuff to the printer.
> Tony> > 
> Tony> > Any way to just kill it?
> 
> man lpc 
> 
> Or try flushing the printer memory by sending another print job,
> like echo "TEST TEST TERSE" | lpr and see if that shows with lpq
> Better still unplug the printer from the computer, power it down
> then plug back again.
> 
>  
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Hi,

Recently i setup a transparent proxy server with squid.  That worked just
fine, used a fwd rule to forward all traffic to localhost, etc.  Now I have
more of a problem though.

I have a gateway at 30.30.30.1 and a proxy server at 20.20.20.1.  Both have
public interfaces and are not connected through any sort of private network.
What I need to do is to forward all traffic on port 80 of the gateway
30.30.30.1 (thus allowing for transparent caching for people behind it) to
the proxy server 20.20.20.1.

I made the following rule (where 10.10.0.0/16 is the gateway's:internal
network)
/sbin/ipfw add fwd 20.20.20.1 tcp from 10.10.0.0/16 to any 80
and it doesn't work. packets don't get directed to 20.20.20.1, they just go
where they are supposed to.  If I run squid locally and forward to
localhost, it does fine (its just that its a P130 with 800M hdd, kinda
stupid to run squid on it)
The kernel is compiled with all necessary options. (since nat works, and
forwarding to localhost works)

Also the manual says that if you fwd to an IP that is further than one hop
away, the routing table will be used to relay the packet. host 20.20.20.1 is
fully accessible!

Can someone tell me what I can do about this, or possibly suggest an
alternative forwarding solution?

Thanks all!


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Thanks for answering so quickly.  I tried what you said and the file system
is being mounted, but when I try to use ed to edit the /etc/passwd file I
get a 'read-only file system' error for  '/tmp/ed.a989d'  <-- something
similar to that.  It looks like its just trying to create a temporary file
but it's not allowed to.  I can't use vi, it says it can't find it.  Have
you run into something like this before?






Edwin Groothuis <mavetju@chello.nl> on 01/24/2001 10:57:45 AM

To:   Remi Michalski/cert
cc:   freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Subject:  Re: Unable to root due to invalid shell




On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:49:38AM -0500, rmichalski@enwin.com wrote:
> I can't login as root due to an invalid shell setting in the user
database.
> The shell selected is kcsh which does not exist in my bin directory.
> Because of this I cannot login as root.  Any attempt to copy or rename
csh
> to kcsh fails because I do not have permission.  Any help would be
> appreciated.

Boot in single-usermode (at the ten seconds delay during startup),
then you can edit the file /etc/passwd. Maybe you need to mount
the filesystems manually, maybe you need to use ed instead of vi.

I always found it an interesting experience when I had to fix my
system :-)

Edwin, been there, done that, got the tshirt
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Hi,

I just installed latest 3-STABLE world and ports with CVSup.

However, now I get like:

---
# pwd
/usr/ports/net/cvsup-bin
# make
Error: your port uses an old layout.  Please update it to match this
bsd.port.mk.
*** Error code 1
---
# pwd
/usr/ports/shells/tcsh
# make
Error: your port uses an old layout.  Please update it to match this
bsd.port.mk.
*** Error code 1
---

I have the upgrade installed:
---
#      pkg_info
34upgrade-2000.08.25 A convenience package to upgrade your 3.3 or 3.4 system to 3
[...]
---

3-STABLE should still be kinda supported, right?

Please Cc:.

-- 
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Actually it was hacked... but not their main site... that was totally a 
microshaft screw up...
http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,41387,00.html

SWen

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Wednesday, January 24, 2001, 7:24:31 AM, you wrote:
SR> Hi,

SR> I'm trying to find out if a FreeBSD driver is available for the Intel 82559 Fast
SR> Ethernet controller.  I've searched the FreeBSD web site but without success so
SR> far.  I'd be very grateful if you could let me know if a FreeBSD driver exists
SR> for this chip.  

SR> Many thanks,
SR> Steve

Hello Steve,

My Intel Pro/100 with the 82559 chipset works with the fxp0 driver.

Check:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.2-RELEASE/HARDWARE.TXT

Good luck,
Neill
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Wednesday, January 24, 2001, 11:04:06 AM, you wrote:
JA> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
JA> Hash: SHA1

JA> I've read the man for vinum and tried different configs; what's the best 
JA> way to set that up to perform raid? Also, any ideas on the best method for 
JA> redundant servers.

JA> Jeff

Maybe check out http://www.vinumvm.org/

Best regards,
Neill
freebsd@nc.rr.com

JA> At 1/24/2001, you wrote:
>>Randy Primeaux schrieb:
>> >
>> > what's the current preference for 4-STABLE ata RAID-1, hardware or 
>> software?
>>
>>If you have the bucks for an external SCSI Raid subsystem, I would use
>>that. Otherwise, Vinum works here in an experimental server without
>>problems since four weeks.
>>
>>HTH
>>-Christoph Sold




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Subject: Re: Unable to root due to invalid shell
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Hi,

Usually in single mode the file system is first mounted in read-only mode. 
You must mount again with command "mount /" in order to mount the root file 
system amd whatever other file system you have with "mount /usr" where "usr" 
is whatever you want. 

Luck,
Vasile

>Thanks for answering so quickly.  I tried what you said and the file system
>is being mounted, but when I try to use ed to edit the /etc/passwd file I
>get a 'read-only file system' error for  '/tmp/ed.a989d'  <-- something
>similar to that.  It looks like its just trying to create a temporary file
>but it's not allowed to.  I can't use vi, it says it can't find it.  Have
>you run into something like this before?






>Edwin Groothuis <mavetju@chello.nl> on 01/24/2001 10:57:45 AM

>To:   Remi Michalski/cert
>cc:   freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

>Subject:  Re: Unable to root due to invalid shell




>On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:49:38AM -0500, rmichalski@enwin.com wrote:
>> I can't login as root due to an invalid shell setting in the user
>database.
>> The shell selected is kcsh which does not exist in my bin directory.
>> Because of this I cannot login as root.  Any attempt to copy or rename
>csh
>> to kcsh fails because I do not have permission.  Any help would be
>> appreciated.

>Boot in single-usermode (at the ten seconds delay during startup),
>then you can edit the file /etc/passwd. Maybe you need to mount
>the filesystems manually, maybe you need to use ed instead of vi.

>I always found it an interesting experience when I had to fix my
>system :-)

>Edwin, been there, done that, got the tshirt
>--
>Edwin Groothuis   |           Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions:
>mavetju@chello.nl |                     http://fataldimensions.nl.eu.org/
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Steve M <slavik944@metconnect.com> types:
> > FreeBSD has a long and stable history.  Although you don't like it, I think the
> > documentation is superb. 
> If your refering to my opinion of the documentation, 
> it's not so much that I dont like it as I am disappointed with 
> some aspects.  

Well, the really wonderful thing about open source projects - any of
them - is that you have access to everything you need to fix such
things. If you're disappointed with some aspects, figure out what
would make you happy - then *do* it. Submit the results as a PR, and
hopefully it will find it's way into the distribution.

If it's one of the published books, you need to talk to the author
about it. Greg at least seems to be listening to what you have to say
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Hello!

I just audited my system for security and it came up that i am
running inetd ONLY because ftp daemon is needed.

I know that thare are many good ftp daemons, but since
i never tested any of them in real production environment
i don't know which to pick.

Please, share your experience with different ftp daemons.
I need something very reliable, secure and configurable.
Currently i am thinking about wu-ftpd and proftpd, but both
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If i find, i could finaly turn off inetd and save myself some
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Jan 24  9:25: 3 2001
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To: "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>, <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject: RE: Which is the most secure and reliable ftp daemon
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I've used ncftpd quite a bit.  You can check it out at http://www.ncftp.com

Travis

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Hello!

I just audited my system for security and it came up that i am
running inetd ONLY because ftp daemon is needed.

I know that thare are many good ftp daemons, but since
i never tested any of them in real production environment
i don't know which to pick.

Please, share your experience with different ftp daemons.
I need something very reliable, secure and configurable.
Currently i am thinking about wu-ftpd and proftpd, but both
of them have history of security flaws.

If i find, i could finaly turn off inetd and save myself some
RAM and maybe even tighten security.

Regards,
Artem



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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Steve Rose wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to find out if a FreeBSD driver is available for the Intel 82559 Fast
> Ethernet controller.  I've searched the FreeBSD web site but without success so
> far.  I'd be very grateful if you could let me know if a FreeBSD driver exists
> for this chip.  
> 

Use the fxp driver. The 82559 performs just fine with FreeBSD. It's listed
under its product name of "EtherExpress."

-ac

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Jan 24  9:31: 0 2001
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One of my FreeBSD machines began rebooting itself at random intervals.
Nothing unusual has been logged prior to the reboots. So I began
swapping out parts based upon nothing but suspicion. (I've just replaced
the power supply and some RAM, actually.)

I may have obtained an *important clue*, however. This morning, 20
minutes before it rebooted, this error was logged:

Jan 24 06:45:20 kraeusen /kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: #da/0x20009, blkno: 256, size: 4096

I'm guessing that refers to this device:

crw-r-----  1 root  operator   13, 0x00020009 May 31  2000 /dev/da1s1b

If anybody has any pointers on how to diagnose this problem futher, I'd
appreciate it. 

One further thought - I have never rebuilt my disk /dev entries
after doing a 'make world'. Should I?

Thanks!

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Jan 24  9:33:54 2001
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Jahanur R Subedar wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> This might be a very stupid question. But I need some help.
> Because of the Win2000 lockup on a terminal software "Exceed", I was
> running some process on there and now I can not tell if it is done or not.
> If I reboot the Win2000 Professional then I may be killing a running
> process which may crash my Database Server.


I am not exactly sure what it is you are asking, but if a process controlling
terminal is lost, usually so is the process...

If you want to know whats running, surly you know the ps command?

Since win2k is designed to crash every 0.05 mins you probably should consider
ether a more stable o/s or running your commands non-interactively...


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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:17:41PM +0000, Bart Pustjens (skin@takeover.lion-access.net) wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Because of hardware troubles (running out of diskspace) I want
> to redirect the connections on port 119 of my.news.machine to another
> news server (which only allows my.news.machine to connect, so
> my users can't connect directly to the other/new/temp news server).
> 
> Are their any ('native') BSD tools to do this ? 
> 
> Thanks,
> Bart Pustjens
> 
> 
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Use IPNAT (ipf). Compile kernel with the following options:

options         IPFILTER                #kernel ipfilter support
options         IPFILTER_LOG            #ipfilter logging

and create a file /etc/ipnat.conf with:

rdr ed0 your.news.server/32 port 119 -> your.new.news.server port 119 tcp

then ipnat -FC -f /etc/ipnat.conf and you're done.

IPFW is a pain :) (personal opinion)

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You can also install a package called screen. Screen will allow you to
resume previous sessions as long as they were launched using it. In your
case you could have reconnected to your server, launched screen and
resumed where you got cut off.

Microsoft: "Where would you like to go to today"
Linux: "Where would you like to go tomorrow"
FreeBSD: "Hey,when are you guys going to catch up"


On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Kal Torak wrote:

> Jahanur R Subedar wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Folks,
> > This might be a very stupid question. But I need some help.
> > Because of the Win2000 lockup on a terminal software "Exceed", I was
> > running some process on there and now I can not tell if it is done or not.
> > If I reboot the Win2000 Professional then I may be killing a running
> > process which may crash my Database Server.
> 
> 
> I am not exactly sure what it is you are asking, but if a process controlling
> terminal is lost, usually so is the process...
> 
> If you want to know whats running, surly you know the ps command?
> 
> Since win2k is designed to crash every 0.05 mins you probably should consider
> ether a more stable o/s or running your commands non-interactively...
> 
> 
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David Banning <david@www3.pacific-pages.com> types:
> I'll try "lpc clean all" next time, if that doesn't work,
> I'll unplug and re-plug the printer in.


"lpc abort all" is more likely to do what you want. Then do the clean.

	<mike

> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:35:43AM +0300, Corvette wrote:
> > * Tony Wells <awells@journalstar.com> [20010123 20:21]: writing on the subject 'Re: killing print command'
> > Tony> I'm guessing it's buffer memory in the printer that keeps re-issuing
> > Tony> the job.  Turning off the printer from the switch might not do the
> > Tony> trick, try unplugging it so the printer actually loses power.
> > Tony> 
> > Tony> David Banning wrote:
> > Tony> > 
> > Tony> > I have printed something.  Now I don't want it to print.
> > Tony> > There is nothing listed with "lpq"
> > Tony> > There is no print job number to issue with "lprm"
> > Tony> > I keep turning my printer off.  When it resets, it starts printing again.
> > Tony> > 
> > Tony> > There must be some kind of buffer in the computer memory, behind the scenes
> > Tony> > feeding this stuff to the printer.
> > Tony> > 
> > Tony> > Any way to just kill it?
> > 
> > man lpc 
> > 
> > Or try flushing the printer memory by sending another print job,
> > like echo "TEST TEST TERSE" | lpr and see if that shows with lpq
> > Better still unplug the printer from the computer, power it down
> > then plug back again.
> > 
> >  
> > -Wash
> > 
> > --
> > Odhiambo Washington  Inter-Connect Ltd.,
> > wash@iconnect.co.ke  5th Flr Furaha Plaza
> > Tel: 254 11 222604   Nkrumah Rd.,
> > Fax: 254 11 222636   PO Box 83613 MOMBASA, KE.
> > 
> > Subtlety is the art of saying what you think and getting out of the way before 
> > it is understood. 
> > 
> 
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Thanks.

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Joe Oliveiro wrote:

> You can also install a package called screen. Screen will allow you to
> resume previous sessions as long as they were launched using it. In your
> case you could have reconnected to your server, launched screen and
> resumed where you got cut off.
> 
> Microsoft: "Where would you like to go to today"
> Linux: "Where would you like to go tomorrow"
> FreeBSD: "Hey,when are you guys going to catch up"
> 
> 
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Kal Torak wrote:
> 
> > Jahanur R Subedar wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi Folks,
> > > This might be a very stupid question. But I need some help.
> > > Because of the Win2000 lockup on a terminal software "Exceed", I was
> > > running some process on there and now I can not tell if it is done or not.
> > > If I reboot the Win2000 Professional then I may be killing a running
> > > process which may crash my Database Server.
> > 
> > 
> > I am not exactly sure what it is you are asking, but if a process controlling
> > terminal is lost, usually so is the process...
> > 
> > If you want to know whats running, surly you know the ps command?
> > 
> > Since win2k is designed to crash every 0.05 mins you probably should consider
> > ether a more stable o/s or running your commands non-interactively...
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> 
> 

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only information I see is ftp version 6.0.  Anyone know
exactly what ftp program it uses by default?  I would like
to install the same type on a linux machine I use at work.

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Hi,

I'm having small problems with my laptop and the 3C589D-card.
I checked from the release notes that it is supported, and read that it uses
the device 'ep'.
I configure that to kernel :
device    ep0

and pccards are found, it recognizes pccard slot 0 and 1, and notices if I
remove the card - but I cant seem to get the device ep0 on.
It just wont find/detect the card... what am I missing here?

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FBSD 3.5.1

after about 5 years i have been used to FBSD compiling
without errors, so i assume i must have something wrong
in my kernel config, cuz i sure get alot of them now.
it is not bad memory or anything, cuz it's the same
errors everytime.  can someone please point out
the error of my ways?

please ditto a copy of any replies off the list.

thanks.

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machine     "i386"
cpu         "I586_CPU"
ident       MYKERN
maxusers    32
config      kernel root on wd0
options     FFS
options     FFS_ROOT
options     INET
options     SYSVSHM
options     "MAXCONS=9"
options     "COMPAT_43"
options     ATAPI
options     ATAPI_STATIC
device      isa0
device      pci0
device      sc0     at isa?               tty
controller  atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD   tty
device      atkbd0  at isa?               tty irq  1
device      sio1    at isa? port 0x02f8   tty irq  3
device      sio0    at isa? port 0x03f8   tty irq  4
device      ed0     at isa? port 0x0340   net irq  9 iomem 0x00000
controller  fdc0    at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq  6 drq 2
device      fd0     at fdc0 drive 0
device      npx0    at isa? port IO_NPX       irq 13
device      vga0    at isa? port ?        conflicts
controller  wdc0    at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14
disk        wd0     at wdc0 drive 0
disk        wd1     at wdc0 drive 1
controller  wdc1    at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15
disk        wd2     at wdc1 drive 0
disk        wd3     at wdc1 drive 1
device      acd0
controller  snd0
device      sb0     at isa? port 0x0220       irq  5 drq 1
device      sbxvi0  at isa?                          drq 5
device      sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x0300       # or 0x0330
device      opl0    at isa? port 0x0388
controller  scbus0
device      da0
device      ppc0    at isa? port 0x0378   tty irq  7
controller  ppbus0
controller  vpo0    at ppbus?
device      lpt0    at ppbus?
device      ppi0    at ppbus?
pseudo-device   snp         3
pseudo-device   tun         3
pseudo-device   pty         16
pseudo-device   bpfilter    3
pseudo-device   loop        1
pseudo-device   ether
pseudo-device	splash

In file included from ../../kern/init_sysent.c:12:
../../sys/sysent.h:72: warning: `struct vnode' declared inside parameter list
../../sys/sysent.h:72: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration,
../../sys/sysent.h:72: warning: which is probably not what you want.
../../kern/kern_ntptime.c:542: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
../../kern/uipc_mbuf.c: In function `m_mballoc_wait':
../../kern/uipc_mbuf.c:217: warning: implicit declaration of function `wakeup_one'
../../net/if_ethersubr.c: In function `ether_output':
../../net/if_ethersubr.c:387: warning: address of register variable `m' requested
../../netinet/ip_input.c: In function `ip_input':
../../netinet/ip_input.c:649: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
../../netinet/raw_ip.c: In function `rip_output':
../../netinet/raw_ip.c:194: warning: address of register variable `m' requested
../../netinet/tcp_input.c: In function `tcp_reass':
../../netinet/tcp_input.c:167: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
../../netinet/udp_usrreq.c: In function `udp_output':
../../netinet/udp_usrreq.c:538: warning: address of register variable `m' requested
../../i386/i386/identcpu.c: In function `printcpuinfo':
../../i386/i386/identcpu.c:129: warning: `nreg' might be used uninitialized in this function
../../i386/i386/pmap.c: In function `pmap_set_opt':
../../i386/i386/pmap.c:471: warning: unused variable `i'
../../i386/isa/clock.c: In function `calibrate_clocks':
../../i386/isa/clock.c:595: warning: `old_tsc' might be used uninitialized in this function
../../i386/isa/if_ed.c: In function `ed_get_packet':
../../i386/isa/if_ed.c:2813: warning: label `getit' defined but not used
../../i386/isa/sound/dev_table.c:247: warning: `sndtable_identify_card' defined but not used
../../i386/isa/sound/dev_table.c:267: warning: `sound_chconf' defined but not used
../../i386/isa/sound/soundcard.c:98: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
../../i386/isa/sound/soundcard.c: In function `sndattach':
../../i386/isa/sound/soundcard.c:407: warning: unused variable `tmp'
../../i386/isa/sound/sb_midi.c: In function `sb_midi_open':
../../i386/isa/sound/sb_midi.c:67: warning: unused variable `ret'

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Jan 24 11: 8:39 2001
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Hi

Why would this work as the Win98 box will have no IP forwarding
capabilities.

You would be better using the cable modem on your FreeBSD box and enabling
forwarding on this OS, and dropping the internal NIC's IP address in your
default route box on the M$ box.

G D McKee

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> * Hocking, David A <david.a.hocking@intel.com> [20010124 09:25]: writing
on the subject 'DSL modem question'
> Hocking,> Dear Sirs:
> Hocking,>
> Hocking,> I have two PC's; one is now proudly running FreeBSD OS.  Can I
use my
> Hocking,> internal DSL modem/ISP service located in my Windows98 SE
machine to connect
> Hocking,> to the internet from my FreeBSD machine?  These two machines
used to be
> Hocking,> directly connected via ethernet(UTP, NIC cards, NE2000
compatible, no hub)
> Hocking,> for file sharing when both were Windows machines.  I have a hub
if I need to
> Hocking,> use it.
>
> The Redmond guys say you can do that. Connect them to a hub, go to the
Windows box
> and enable connection sharing on that interface. Then tell FreeBS that it
has a friend
> who could take it out for a walk - to the Internet.
>
> defaultrouter="ip_address_of_windows_pc"
>
> Change this is /etc/rc.conf and tell 'us' if it works.
>
> Hocking,>
> Hocking,> Am I dreaming?
> Hocking,>
> Hocking,> How about;  Could I use my DSL modem and FreeBSD to connect to
the internet
> Hocking,> if I loaded FreeBSD in a dual boot scenario on one machine?
>
>
> Just make sure that the card is supported by FreeBSD. Check the hardware
section of the Handbook
> at www.freebsd.org/handbook
>
>
> Hocking,>
> Hocking,> What is the best way (protocol) to network the two machines?
>
> TCP/IP
>
> Use any other if you can compile it in FreeBSD kernel and set it up.
>
>
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I did
> Hocking,> manage to get FreeBSD installed and X11 configured with only the
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>
> Then you're on the right track, congratulations. Now you have KOffice and
Conqueror,
> maybe you can just trash the M$ ;-/
>
> Hocking,> My interest in Unix stems from the fact that I "own" /maintain
an
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Pekka Savola wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just installed latest 3-STABLE world and ports with CVSup.
> 
> However, now I get like:
> 
> ---
> # pwd
> /usr/ports/net/cvsup-bin
> # make
> Error: your port uses an old layout.  Please update it to match this
> bsd.port.mk.
> *** Error code 1
> ---
> # pwd
> /usr/ports/shells/tcsh
> # make
> Error: your port uses an old layout.  Please update it to match this
> bsd.port.mk.
> *** Error code 1
> ---
> 
> I have the upgrade installed:
> ---
> #      pkg_info
> 34upgrade-2000.08.25 A convenience package to upgrade your 3.3 or 3.4 system to 3
> [...]
> ---
> 
> 3-STABLE should still be kinda supported, right?

You don't get this message unless you aren't cvsuping all of the
ports. The base structure changed and your port cvsup didn't delete
the old structure and update it to the new way of doing things. I
cvsup ports-all and don't see this.

Kent

> 
> Please Cc:.
> 
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I believe that irc.freebsd.org was already linked to EFnet but am not sure
if it still is or not. If not feel free to point the domain to
irc.magic.ca which is a canadian EFnet server which i run.

Microsoft: "Where would you like to go to today"
Linux: "Where would you like to go tomorrow"
FreeBSD: "Hey,when are you guys going to catch up"


On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Geoff Kitching wrote:

>     Hi, i was just wondering if you guys had any intentions on running an irc server. If you guys need a hand, i'll donate my time and administrate it for you.
> 
>     Please get back to me and let me know if you guys intend on running one, thanks a lot.
> 
> -Geoff Kitching
> 
> 



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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Jan 24 11:21: 3 2001
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Edwin Groothuis wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:17:41PM +0000, Bart Pustjens wrote:
> > to redirect the connections on port 119 of my.news.machine to another
> > news server (which only allows my.news.machine to connect, so
> > my users can't connect directly to the other/new/temp news server).
> 
> Checkout /usr/ports/sysutils/socket for a nice tool for this.

I've added
nntp stream tcp nowait nobody  /usr/local/bin/socket socket newserver nntp
to my inetd.conf and got it working. Now I am wondering if I can
use tcp wrappers on it so I can use hosts.allow ? How can I deny unwanted
hosts ?

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In local.freebsd.questions you write:

>I just audited my system for security and it came up that i am
>running inetd ONLY because ftp daemon is needed.

As for getting rid of inetd, check the "-D" flag in ftpd(8): it allows
you to run ftpd stand-alone.

[...]

>Please, share your experience with different ftp daemons.
>I need something very reliable, secure and configurable.
>Currently i am thinking about wu-ftpd and proftpd, but both
>of them have history of security flaws.

>If i find, i could finaly turn off inetd and save myself some
>RAM and maybe even tighten security.

The stock ftpd in FreeBSD has had few security problems.  If you want
to be paranoid, you could always run it in a jail(8).

The area where FreeBSD's ftpd looses is "configurable" -- depending on
how many bells and whistles you need.

    $.02,
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Using pppoe, the tun device gets the actual ip number of the dsl
connection.  However, I understand that the inside gateway/broadcast
should be the ip of the inside card of the NAT machine, but what is the
broadcast ip of the NAT machine's inside card?  Should it be the tun 
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From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Kent Stewart wrote:
> Pekka Savola wrote:
> > ---
> > # pwd
> > /usr/ports/net/cvsup-bin
> > # make
> > Error: your port uses an old layout.  Please update it to match this
> > bsd.port.mk.
> > *** Error code 1
> > ---
[snip]

> You don't get this message unless you aren't cvsuping all of the
> ports. The base structure changed and your port cvsup didn't delete
> the old structure and update it to the new way of doing things. I
> cvsup ports-all and don't see this.

Nope:

--- [mostly off the example file]
# grep -v ^# /etc/supfile | grep -v ^$
*default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3
*default delete use-rel-suffix
src-all tag=RELENG_3
ports-all tag=.
---

The directory structure of /usr/ports/net/cvsup-bin/ is like:
---
drwxr-xr-x    2 root  wheel   512 Jul  1  1998 CVS
-rw-r--r--    1 root  wheel   939 Jan 24 08:54 Makefile
-rw-r--r--    1 root  wheel   735 May 21  1998 README.html
-rw-r--r--    1 root  wheel   227 Dec 28  1999 distinfo
drwxr-xr-x    3 root  wheel   512 Jan 24 08:54 files
drwxr-xr-x    3 root  wheel   512 Jan 24 08:54 pkg
-rw-r--r--    1 root  wheel    74 Jun 26  1999 pkg-comment
-rw-r--r--    1 root  wheel   693 Jan  1  2000 pkg-descr
-rw-r--r--    1 root  wheel    23 Feb 10  1999 pkg-plist
drwxr-xr-x    3 root  wheel   512 Jul  1  1998 scripts
---

After 'rm -rf' and new cvsup it looks like:
---
-rw-r--r--    1 root  wheel   939 Oct  4 09:40 Makefile
-rw-r--r--    1 root  wheel   227 Dec 28  1999 distinfo
-rw-r--r--    1 root  wheel    74 Jun 26  1999 pkg-comment
-rw-r--r--    1 root  wheel   693 Jan  1  2000 pkg-descr
-rw-r--r--    1 root  wheel    23 Feb 10  1999 pkg-plist
---

So, it'd appear like ports-all doesn't clean up the tree properly under
every circumstance.

(Btw: this box has been upgraded with CVSup up from 3.0-SNAP releases from
2.2.6 era)

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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Geoff Kitching wrote:

>     Hi, i was just wondering if you guys had any intentions on running an irc server. If you guys need a hand, i'll donate my time and administrate it for you.
> 
>     Please get back to me and let me know if you guys intend on running one, thanks a lot.
> 
The offer is most generous of you. Among dozens of major network IRC 
server admins, we were unable to find a single one capable of running ircd
on FreeBSD. The running of irc.freebsd.org on EFnet was contracted out to
script kiddies using Red Hat Winux because nobody involved with the
FreeBSD project is elite enough to run ircd. But I'm sure you are...

Regards

-ac

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I was installing something today on a 4.2-Release box and it was looking for
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Hi

I get the following error when trying to compile FreeBSD's www site

kursk# cd /usr/www/
kursk# make
===> en
(sed -e 's/<!ENTITY date[ \t]*"$Free[B]SD. .* \(.* .*\) .* .* $">/<!ENTITY
date"Last modified: \1">/'  availability.sgml | SGML_CATALOG_FILES=''
sgmlnorm -d  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /usr/www/en >
availability.html) || (rm -f availability.html && false)
(sed -e 's/<!ENTITY date[ \t]*"$Free[B]SD. .* \(.* .*\) .* .* $">/<!ENTITY
date"Last modified: \1">/'  index.sgml | SGML_CATALOG_FILES=''
gmlnorm -d  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /usr/www/en >
index.html) || (rm -f index.html && false)
(sed -e 's/<!ENTITY date[ \t]*"$Free[B]SD. .* \(.* .*\) .* .* $">/<!ENTITY
date"Last modified: \1">/'  support.sgml | SGML_CATALOG_FILES=''
gmlnorm -d  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /usr/www/en >
support.html) || (rm -f support.html && false)
===> en/security
===> en/commercial
===> en/docproj
===> en/news
(sed -e 's/<!ENTITY date[ \t]*"$Free[B]SD. .* \(.* .*\) .* .* $">/<!ENTITY
date"Last modified: \1">/'  newsflash.sgml | SGML_CATALOG_FILES=''
sgmlnorm -d  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /usr/www/en/news >
newsflash.html) || (rm -f newsflash.html && false)
===> en/news/1996
===> en/news/1997
===> en/alpha
===> en/internal
===> en/java
===> en/java/dists
===> en/java/docs
===> en/java/links
===> en/copyright
(sed -e 's/<!ENTITY date[ \t]*"$Free[B]SD. .* \(.* .*\) .* .* $">/<!ENTITY
date"Last modified: \1">/'  freebsd-license.sgml | SGML_CATALOG_FILES=''
sgmlnorm -d  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /usr/www/en/copyright
> freebsd-license.html) || (rm -f freebsd-license.html && false)
make: don't know how to make /ports/LEGAL,v. Stop
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/www/en.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/www.
kursk#


Does any one have any ideas?

Gordon



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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:29:15AM -0500, Mark B. Withers wrote:
> I usually type in my own file names when I save messages. Mutt tends
> to create it's own filenames based on the "from" field before the
> "@host.com".
> 
> Mark

if you don't preface the filename with '=' it saves them in pwd.

> 
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:55:33AM -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:45:38AM -0500, Mark B. Withers wrote:
> > > To those who helped me with my question regarding mutt..thanks! 
> > > 
> > > My problem was that whenever I would save an email message, it would
> > > save the files in my ~ directory.
> > > 
> > > I had the correct parameter set in my .muttrc
> > > 
> > > set folder="~/Mail"
> > > 
> > > However it would still dump all saved messages to my ~ directory
> > > instead of ~/Mail.
> > 
> > You were calling things,
> > 
> >   =filename
> > 
> > When you saved them, right?
> > -- 
> > Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:13:21AM -0500, rmichalski@enwin.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for answering so quickly.  I tried what you said and the file system
> is being mounted, but when I try to use ed to edit the /etc/passwd file I
> get a 'read-only file system' error for  '/tmp/ed.a989d'  <-- something
> similar to that.  It looks like its just trying to create a temporary file
> but it's not allowed to.  I can't use vi, it says it can't find it.  Have
> you run into something like this before?

When you boot single user, mount all the filesystems read-write with:

	# mount -a

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I'm trying to configure a Linksys PCMPC100 Ethernet card but I'm having
problems getting the 0x04 flag to go from pccardd to the ed driver. Here's
the configuration that I'm trying and the results that I get.

*** pccard configuration for the ethernet card ***

# Linksys EtherFast 10/100 PC Card (PCMPC100) and V2
card "Linksys" "/Ether[Ff]ast 10/100 PC Card \(PCMPC100.*\)/"
        config  auto "ed" ? 0x4
        insert  /etc/pccard_ether $device start
        remove  /etc/pccard_ether $device stop

*** dmesg output on card insertion ***

pccard: card inserted, slot 0
ed1 at port 0x300-0x31f irq 3 slot 0 on pccard0
ed1: address aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa, type NE1000 (8 bit) 
ed1: NIC memory corrupt - invalid packet length 55295
ed1: NIC memory corrupt - invalid packet length 1279
ed1: NIC memory corrupt - invalid packet length 55295
ed1: NIC memory corrupt - invalid packet length 55295
ed1: NIC memory corrupt - invalid packet length 55295

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Christopher Sean Hilton wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to configure a Linksys PCMPC100 Ethernet card but I'm having
> problems getting the 0x04 flag to go from pccardd to the ed driver. Here's
> the configuration that I'm trying and the results that I get.
> 
> *** pccard configuration for the ethernet card ***
> 
> # Linksys EtherFast 10/100 PC Card (PCMPC100) and V2
> card "Linksys" "/Ether[Ff]ast 10/100 PC Card \(PCMPC100.*\)/"
>         config  auto "ed" ? 0x4
>         insert  /etc/pccard_ether $device start
>         remove  /etc/pccard_ether $device stop
> 
> *** dmesg output on card insertion ***
> 
> pccard: card inserted, slot 0
> ed1 at port 0x300-0x31f irq 3 slot 0 on pccard0
> ed1: address aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa, type NE1000 (8 bit)
> ed1: NIC memory corrupt - invalid packet length 55295
> ed1: NIC memory corrupt - invalid packet length 1279
> ed1: NIC memory corrupt - invalid packet length 55295
> ed1: NIC memory corrupt - invalid packet length 55295
> ed1: NIC memory corrupt - invalid packet length 55295
> 

I should add that this is against FreeBSD 4.2-Stable CVSuped last sunday
night.

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Joe,

Do you know anything about the record structure being used on the file(s)
I would need to know something like that to dump the file.

Jan



Joe Oliveiro wrote:

> Jan, do you have a simple script which will read a cTree db file and
> output it to ascii format? (i will buy the ctree program if i have to but
> this is all i need done.)
> 
>  On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote:
> 
>> cTree is indeed a Faircom product.
>> Check http://www.faircom.com/
>> We actually do use cTree for file indexing under FreeBSD as well as 
>> other platforms.
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Rowlands wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:14, Domain Administrator wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I now this is not the right place to post it but i know how smart the
>>>> people are on this list and feel i can get an answer!
>>>> 
>>>> I have a CTREE database file, i think CTREE is created with C++ libs but im
>>>> not sure. I have a Database in ctree and it consists of two files:
>>>> 
>>>> -rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    238167118 Jan 21 10:17 users.dat
>>>> -rw-r--r--   1 michael  users    10354688 Jan 21 10:17 users.idx
>>>> 
>>>> Now, when i run 'file <filename>' it just reports the file as being data so
>>>> i assume that this type of database file is hardly ever used or not just
>>>> commonplace.
>>>> 
>>>> # file users.dat
>>>> users.dat:      data
>>>> # file users.idx
>>>> users.idx:      data
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know how i can get support for this on my freebsd box so i can
>>>> somehow convert this database file into an ascii, comma delimited text file
>>>> and into something more common.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance for the help.
>>>> 
>>> Faircom sell a freebsd version of ctree ;-)
>>> 
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:00:50PM +0200, Ana Romero wrote:

> I want to install IPv6 code of INRIA and I need FreeBSD 3.4. Do you know
> where can I get the 1st CD of El torrito? (it isnt in
> ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/)

I would guess that the ISO image is not available for such an old
release - in fact I don't think we were making them at that time. Look
for someone who has the CD, buy a copy yourself, or build your own
ISO.

> If not, do you know if 3.5.1 kernel source files are compatible with 3.4 ?

No, they're not. I expect that most things would work, but things like
ps, top, possibly mount, etc, would not.

Kris

P.S. FreeBSD 4.0 and above includes the KAME IPv6 code in the base
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 09:25:44AM -0500, Dulecki, Corey wrote:
> I'm attempting to download apsfilter source from your website, and gunzip
> doesn't recognize this file format (bz2).  What program is required to
> uncompress this file?  Thanks in advance.

If you use the FreeBSD port it will do it all automatically

cd /usr/ports/print/apsfilter
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:46:21AM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:

> now, I'm figuring that I should be safe with doing:

Looks like it should work.

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 09:24:47PM +0200, Pekka Savola wrote:

> So, it'd appear like ports-all doesn't clean up the tree properly under
> every circumstance.

See Q12 and 13 in the cvsup faq on www.polstra.com

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:45:47PM -0600, jhunt@blaz.niinet.net wrote:
>=20
> only information I see is ftp version 6.0.  Anyone know
> exactly what ftp program it uses by default?  I would like
> to install the same type on a linux machine I use at work.

It's "ftp version 6.0" - that IS the program :-) i.e. it's the ftp
client which is part of FreeBSD, derived from the original BSD ftp
client. It's not third-party software.

I don't know if any Linux people have ported it, but I'd guess if they
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:39:47PM -0500, Mitch Vincent wrote:
> I was installing something today on a 4.2-Release box and it was looking =
for
> libm.so.6.. I have /usr/lib/libm.so.2 in /usr/lib I see, can 6 be install=
ed
> under FreeBSD 4.2? If so, where might I get it? I've looked around but
> haven't found anything but Linux RPM distros of it.

Linux libraries !=3D FreeBSD libraries. What FreeBSD comes with is what
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:05:48AM -0900, groggy@iname.com wrote:

> after about 5 years i have been used to FBSD compiling
> without errors, so i assume i must have something wrong
> in my kernel config, cuz i sure get alot of them now.
> it is not bad memory or anything, cuz it's the same
> errors everytime.  can someone please point out
> the error of my ways?

These are warnings, not errors. Did the compile actually finish? If
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What kind of  a response is that?  The guy offers help, and just 
because he doesn't know there are already IRC servers, you send a 
caustic, sarcastic reply.  
	Geoff, btw, there may not be a need for more IRC servers, but there 
are other ways to help the FreeBSD project if you want to.

						Tim

On Wednesday January 24, 2001 14:34, Alex Charalabidis wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Geoff Kitching wrote:
> >     Hi, i was just wondering if you guys had any intentions on
> > running an irc server. If you guys need a hand, i'll donate my time
> > and administrate it for you.
> >
> >     Please get back to me and let me know if you guys intend on
> > running one, thanks a lot.
>
> The offer is most generous of you. Among dozens of major network IRC
> server admins, we were unable to find a single one capable of running
> ircd on FreeBSD. The running of irc.freebsd.org on EFnet was
> contracted out to script kiddies using Red Hat Winux because nobody
> involved with the FreeBSD project is elite enough to run ircd. But
> I'm sure you are...
>
> Regards
>
> -ac


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anyone have sound on a dell i8k working?

how?


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when i close my laptop, it goes to sleep just fine using the apm support in 4.2-RELEASE.  however, when i open the lid, the system wakes up to get a neverending loop of fxp0 errors.


here is some output from /var/log/messages:

Jan 17 17:11:26 mikado /kernel: usb0: host controller halted
Jan 17 17:11:42 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout   
Jan 17 17:11:44 mikado /kernel: fxp0: device timeout   
Jan 17 17:11:44 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout   
Jan 17 17:11:44 mikado last message repeated 2 times
Jan 17 17:11:44 mikado /kernel: fxp0: DMA timeout
Jan 17 17:11:44 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout   
Jan 17 17:11:44 mikado /kernel: fxp0: DMA timeout
Jan 17 17:11:44 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout
Jan 17 17:11:44 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout   
Jan 17 17:11:44 mikado /kernel: ums0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected
Jan 17 17:11:44 mikado /kernel: ums0: detached   
Jan 17 17:11:44 mikado moused: unable to open /dev/ums0: Device not configured
Jan 17 17:11:59 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout
Jan 17 17:12:00 mikado /kernel: fxp0: device timeout
Jan 17 17:12:00 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout
Jan 17 17:12:00 mikado last message repeated 2 times
Jan 17 17:12:00 mikado /kernel: fxp0: DMA timeout   
Jan 17 17:12:00 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout
Jan 17 17:12:00 mikado /kernel: fxp0: DMA timeout
Jan 17 17:12:00 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout
Jan 17 17:12:00 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout
Jan 17 17:12:00 mikado /kernel: uhub0: device problem, disabling port 1
Jan 17 17:12:15 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout
Jan 17 17:12:17 mikado /kernel: fxp0: device timeout
Jan 17 17:12:17 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout
Jan 17 17:12:17 mikado last message repeated 2 times
Jan 17 17:12:17 mikado /kernel: fxp0: DMA timeout
Jan 17 17:12:17 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout
Jan 17 17:12:17 mikado /kernel: fxp0: DMA timeout
Jan 17 17:12:17 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout
Jan 17 17:12:17 mikado /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout


what is the deal here?  what does SCB mean?  fxp0 is my built in intel 82559 (on my laptop)...it would seem to me that my nic is not getting told to wake up.  it also appears that the usb stuff is not waking up properly either.  do i need to edit my /etc/apmd.conf?  what should it say?

any help is greatly appreciated...


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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:57:26PM -0500, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote:
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> > 
> > I'm trying to configure a Linksys PCMPC100 Ethernet card but I'm having
> > problems getting the 0x04 flag to go from pccardd to the ed driver. Here's
> > the configuration that I'm trying and the results that I get.
> > 

[...]

> I should add that this is against FreeBSD 4.2-Stable CVSuped last sunday
> night.

There's a note in /usr/src/UPDATING about Linksys Fast Ethernet PCCARD
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I came accross such a thing the other day and was woundering
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Hi Kris, I appreciate your response..

Of course I never meant to imply that Linux libraries == FreeBSD
libraries... It seemed that the difference was the version and if that was
the case then I just wondered where I could get the newest version of libm
for FreeBSD... If I have it and it's installed, I guess I'm out of luck :-)

It is a binary that I'm trying to run, I don't know, maybe it was written on
a Linux box (though it says not)..

-Mitch

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:39:47PM -0500, Mitch Vincent wrote:
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> libm.so.6.. I have /usr/lib/libm.so.2 in /usr/lib I see, can 6 be
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> under FreeBSD 4.2? If so, where might I get it? I've looked around but
> haven't found anything but Linux RPM distros of it.

Linux libraries != FreeBSD libraries. What FreeBSD comes with is what
(and all) you need.

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Hi

Seti used to run under 4.1.1 but I get an error under 4.2.  It is as follows

kursk# cd /home/gdm/setiathome/
kursk# ./setiathome
Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so.
kursk#

I have tried to search for the file on the net, and can't locate it.  Does
anyone have any ideas what it does or where I can get a copy from?

Gordon



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Mike Meyer wrote:
> 
> ...
> If you want to argue that one of the reasons that Unix failed on the
> desktop was that X allowed the users to run arbitrarily strange window
> managers, and most of those window managers allowed configuration to
> an extent that would require major rewrites of MacOS or Windows, I
> won't argue. I would claim that the kernel APIs being different were
> more of a reason, but that's just me.

Lets not forget that machines weren't as fast then as they are
now. We tried to switch to UNIX in that time, the heydays of UNIX
in that it got heralded everywhere as the new king of all systems.

That was in 1986/1987. In that specific market niche we were
operating in then a sanctioned - we're talking ambulant mental
health care institutions, government funded - conglomerate too
decided UNIX was the way to go.

Since the client base was moving to, in this case, Northern
Telecom Vienna machines we did too. No big deal, DataFlex ran fine
on everything including Vaxen <g>.

The box we got was a 6 MHz iAPX 286 with 5 MB RAM, 70 MB hard disk,
intelligent serial controller with 4 ports, CGA color <g> and
some very fine terminals. Some US$ 35K after developer discount.
Including Micro Soft Xenix III with SDK but we skipped the TCP/IP
pack, alas.

We were working with 5 persons on that box. We were the lucky
ones. There were institutions working with over 16 persons on
a slightly bigger box (had a 8 MHz 80286 ;) running stuff like
wordprocessing (Lyx? nah), spreadsheet and IS apps. There were
a lot of complaints to be heard.

So we went back to selling IMS, nay L/F Technologies S-100
boxes running TurboDOS <g>. Novell wasn't quite there yet.

Sure, if you had an Apollo or a Sun station life was fine. But 
most businesses (and like organisations) didn't. Then life was
not so great.

Next thing you knew you got System V in a version per hardware
manufacturer. Sinix, Ultrix, Whateverix. Novell had it easy. By
the time X got both workable *and* affordable there was no beating
the PC lead. Lotus ruled and WordStar was king, then WordPerfect.
Neither of which ran on UNIX or worked with X.

To top it all off, MS introduced OS/2 3.0, sorry, NT 3.1. To go
after the Novell market. They got it, too. The only slipup they
made was releasing, let us say, products that weren't quit there
yet <g>. So they lost trust.

Around that time a certain Linus released some sort of virus
on the 'Net ;). It has rekindled interest in UNIX. Maybe even
a sort of second coming <g>. Or at least introduced a second heyday!

Nobody in its right mind believed Linux would grow this far. I do
not have a right mind ;). I'm more left wing <g>.

Roelof

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file <binary> will show you whether it's linux or freebsd. If it's
linux and dynamically linked, you need to install the linux_base port
which correctly installs the relevant linux libraries.

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:25:34PM -0500, Mitch Vincent wrote:
> Hi Kris, I appreciate your response..
>=20
> Of course I never meant to imply that Linux libraries =3D=3D FreeBSD
> libraries... It seemed that the difference was the version and if that was
> the case then I just wondered where I could get the newest version of libm
> for FreeBSD... If I have it and it's installed, I guess I'm out of luck :=
-)
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> It is a binary that I'm trying to run, I don't know, maybe it was written=
 on
> a Linux box (though it says not)..
>=20
> -Mitch
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> for
> > libm.so.6.. I have /usr/lib/libm.so.2 in /usr/lib I see, can 6 be
> installed
> > under FreeBSD 4.2? If so, where might I get it? I've looked around but
> > haven't found anything but Linux RPM distros of it.
>=20
> Linux libraries !=3D FreeBSD libraries. What FreeBSD comes with is what
> (and all) you need.
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> Kris
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 09:04:44PM -0000, G D McKee wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Seti used to run under 4.1.1 but I get an error under 4.2.  It is as follows
> 
> kursk# cd /home/gdm/setiathome/
> kursk# ./setiathome
> Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so.
> kursk#
> 
> I have tried to search for the file on the net, and can't locate it.  Does
> anyone have any ideas what it does or where I can get a copy from?

The problem you're having is that you haven't installed the compat-3
libraries. However, *don't* install them. Instead, upgrade to the
latest version of setiathome for FreeBSD. Apparently, the setiathome
hosts will now not accept results from any client aside from the
latest version 3.0.x
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Hello.

I apologize if this question is rather basic; however, I am very new to
the UNIX OS and I am still learning.  BTW.  I am using FreeBSD v4.2

Onward.  I would like to have two seperate applications (say app1 and
app2) which are each running as daemons.  This part I have working.

I would like the two applications to be able to utilize several shared
procedures.  No problem, I setup and I am using a shared library.

Here is the problem.  I would really like to have app2 pass a
procedure's address to app1 and thus allow app1 to use the callback (for
app2) when specific events occur.

I have been unable to locate any information regarding execution of an
application, address space or call-back handling.  If you have any
reading suggestions please let me know.

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Hello,
I just installed FreeBSD 4.2 on an HP NetServer E50 with no problems,
until rebooting. Even added somne packages, configures some daemons, etc.

Now the box won't boot.

Now, the box goes into its POST, going through Adaptec's SCSI-Select
Utility (v1.31s6) for the Adaptec 2940i and finding two HDDs on SCSI
IDs 0 and 1, and then through a second SCSI-Select utility (v1.32) for
the Adaptec 2940U/UW and finding the HP C1533A DAT tape drive
(supported by FreeBSD according to the docs) on ID 3, and then ...
nothing.

Just a single-character flashing cursor.

It _looks_ like it is not even getting to boot off the hard disk, so I
can't see how the new FreeBSD OS could directly be screwing it up, but
I don't know.

I spent an hour with HP tech support and they verified (?) that the
SCSI devices are all okay (since they are recognized) but then could
not help since they only support SCO UNIX.

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Hello.                                                                
                                                                      
I apologize if this question is out of scope; however, I am very new  
to the UNIX OS and I am still learning.  BTW.  I am using FreeBSD     
v4.2.                                                                 
                                                                      
I am working on implementing two seperate applications (say agent and 
otherApp).  I want these two applications to use a registration and   
call-back procedure where the otherApp calls a shared library         
procedure (also used by the agent) to inform the agent of it's        
existance as well as to provide an address to a callback procedure.   
                                                                      
If you have any reading suggestions, or know of any web resources that
I should review (regarding application execution, UNIX address spaces,
or interprocess communication) please let me know.  Thanks again for  
your time.                                                            
                                                                      
David M. Smit                                                         


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> The problem you're having is that you haven't installed the compat-3
> libraries. However, *don't* install them. Instead, upgrade to the
> latest version of setiathome for FreeBSD. Apparently, the setiathome
> hosts will now not accept results from any client aside from the
> latest version 3.0.x
>

Im still running the "stock" setiathome thats in the ports, with no problem
(knock on wood).  Ill try and contact the maintainer and see whats up with an
upgrade....

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and the wrong place, but does this list have digest-mode
avaliable? I would love to participate, but I really cant take the time
weeding out the free-bsd articles from the normal work emails.

--
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What is the generally accepted "correct" way to create user accounts that can not be used to login?
I can think of more than one way to do this, but I was wondering if there was a method that was considered "standard" or typical. If not, what is the most used method?

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:07:14PM -0000, wmoran@mail.the-i-pa.com wrote:
> What is the generally accepted "correct" way to create user accounts that can not be used to login?
> I can think of more than one way to do this, but I was wondering if there was a method that was considered "standard" or typical. If not, what is the most used method?
> 
Use /sbin/nologin as the shell ... (have a look at /etc/passwd for
example pseudo-users).

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Im currently running a Duron 800 with VIA's 686B South Bridge....
So what does that tell ya.....  ;)
4.2S

David Huff wrote:

> I'm considering building an AMD Athlon or Duron PC with a motherboard based
> on VIA's KT133 chipset. This incls VIA's 686A South Bridge chip which provides
> ATA/66 support. Will FreeBSD 4.x support my ATA disks on this motherboard ?
>
> Please CC: my email addr with any replies. I know this is obnoxious and I
> apologize in advance, but I'm in a temp state where I need to limit my
> volume of email and so have unsubscribed from freebsd-questions for
> awhile...
>
> Thanks,
> --
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Yeah it does, see 
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL

For me, a much better solution is to use a MTA that does filtering of 
messages.  That way all the -questions mail goes straight into a 
subfolder and you can deal with it when you feel like.  I use Kmail 
under KDE2 for this, but I wouldn't exaclty call it bug-free :)   The 
procmail+ mutt combination is very popular to do filtering also.   If 
you're not on a FreeBSD system then you'll have to find a filtering MTA 
yourself, or run procmail on your FreeBSD server at home and ssh into 
it from work.
	Of course, YMMV,

						Tim

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> > and the wrong place, but does this list have digest-mode
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>
> --
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> nicholas@innoverity.com
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> Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?
> -- T. S. Eliot

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Hi all,

   I did and read alot about upgrading the version, and about CVSup
   or re building the kernel for some reasons like to enable the
   sound card or any other things.

   But i still confused too much about this subject,
   I hope this will be my first guide from you.

   I'm on FreeBSD 4.2-Release.

   For Disk Quotas,

1)  I First Edit my kernel
   /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC   to   options QUOTA

   or should I cp GENERIC MYKERNEL
   and then edit MYKERNEL insted of GENERIC ?
   im confused here. :<


2)  Second I edit /etc/rc.conf to enable_quotas=``YES''


3)  Edit /etc/fstab to enable disk quotas
   /dev/da1s2g    /home    ufs rw,groupquota 1 2

   what is the 1 2 after groupquota ? should i write the groups name
   for example /dev/da1s2g    /home    ufs rw,groupquota test

   assuming that test is a group.

4) Now i should recompile the kernel, this is the problem :<
  what i should do now? can please kindly someone guide me throe this
  steps how to compile ?


===

For system UPdate,
im On FreeBSD 4.2-release as i mentiond.
If i want to upgrade to 4.2-stable
what i do?

Should i install /ports/net/cvsup-bin   ?

and then?


Sorry if my questions is too long or silly for you.
but the freebsd.org handbook, mention lot of things
and im confuse about it, i would like to take the info from here.


Thank you again and again.

-Marwan


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david@metalogik.com wrote:

> anyone have sound on a dell i8k working?
>
> how?
>
> cheers,
>     david j harding - david@metalogik.com
>   metalogik industries
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No, but I just got sound working on FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE.
My computer is a Dell Optiplex GX1 with built-in audio hardware
(no sound card added).
The effort seemed trivial, and may apply to your machine.
Please post your results to the list.

This is all I did:

I added this line to the end of my devices section of my kernel
config file at /sys/i386/conf/MYKERNEL:
device          pcm

I did:
cd /dev
./MAKEDEV snd0

rebuild the kernel and reboot.

cat sorrydave.au > /dev/audio

And it worked.

Also of interest,
% cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jan 22 2001 16:21:02
Installed devices:
pcm0: <CS423x> at io 0x534 irq 5 drq 1:0 (1p/1r channels duplex)





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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:47:39PM -0600, David Huff wrote:
> I'm considering building an AMD Athlon or Duron PC with a motherboard based
> on VIA's KT133 chipset. This incls VIA's 686A South Bridge chip which provides
> ATA/66 support. Will FreeBSD 4.x support my ATA disks on this motherboard ?

It should. And most likely will. This is a snippet from dmesg on an
A7V w/ 800 MHz Athlon. Notice it knows to do UDMA100 on the onboard
Promise controller when the disc drive supports it. Then the other
is the CD-RW drive on the MB's VIA ATA-66 chipset.

ad4: 43967MB <Maxtor 54610H6> [89331/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100
acd0: CD-RW <PCRW804> at ata1-slave using PIO4

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ya, but its still based on the 2.2.8 FreeBSD, which means it should(?)
still require the compat-3 libraries, no? :(

\On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Jonathan Chen wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 09:04:44PM -0000, G D McKee wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Seti used to run under 4.1.1 but I get an error under 4.2.  It is as follows
> >
> > kursk# cd /home/gdm/setiathome/
> > kursk# ./setiathome
> > Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so.
> > kursk#
> >
> > I have tried to search for the file on the net, and can't locate it.  Does
> > anyone have any ideas what it does or where I can get a copy from?
>
> The problem you're having is that you haven't installed the compat-3
> libraries. However, *don't* install them. Instead, upgrade to the
> latest version of setiathome for FreeBSD. Apparently, the setiathome
> hosts will now not accept results from any client aside from the
> latest version 3.0.x
> --
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Jonathan Chen wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:57:26PM -0500, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote:
> > Christopher Sean Hilton wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm trying to configure a Linksys PCMPC100 Ethernet card but I'm having
> > > problems getting the 0x04 flag to go from pccardd to the ed driver. Here's
> > > the configuration that I'm trying and the results that I get.
> > >
> 
> [...]
> 
> > I should add that this is against FreeBSD 4.2-Stable CVSuped last sunday
> > night.
> 
> There's a note in /usr/src/UPDATING about Linksys Fast Ethernet PCCARD
> cards that may be of interest to you.

Definitly, Thanks

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Hi

The version in ports is old!!

Got a copy from ftp.freebsd.org though.  It comes up with the following
error

kursk# ./setiathome
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.3" not found
kursk#

I have had a look and there is no version for FreeBSD 4 +, just 2.2.

Could someone mail me a working file please, or am I best to load compat3
libraries.  I don't really want to do this, as the box is running fine
currently without them.

Gordon

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> > The problem you're having is that you haven't installed the compat-3
> > libraries. However, *don't* install them. Instead, upgrade to the
> > latest version of setiathome for FreeBSD. Apparently, the setiathome
> > hosts will now not accept results from any client aside from the
> > latest version 3.0.x
> >
>
> Im still running the "stock" setiathome thats in the ports, with no
problem
> (knock on wood).  Ill try and contact the maintainer and see whats up with
an
> upgrade....
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I'm trying to setup the pcm driver to use the builtin ESS Maestro chipset in
my Toshiba 4090XDVD laptop. I'm using 4.2 Stable. Is this driver ready yet?

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:29:22PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> 
> ya, but its still based on the 2.2.8 FreeBSD, which means it should(?)
> still require the compat-3 libraries, no? :(

The copy from:

  ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/setiathome/setiathome-3.03.i386-unknown-freebsd2.2.8.tar

is at statically linked a.out binary, which doesn't require any
shared-library support; so no-compat libraries need be installed.

Cheers.
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Roelof Osinga <roelof@nisser.com> types:
> Mike Meyer wrote:
> > If you want to argue that one of the reasons that Unix failed on the
> > desktop was that X allowed the users to run arbitrarily strange window
> > managers, and most of those window managers allowed configuration to
> > an extent that would require major rewrites of MacOS or Windows, I
> > won't argue. I would claim that the kernel APIs being different were
> > more of a reason, but that's just me.
> Lets not forget that machines weren't as fast then as they are
> now. We tried to switch to UNIX in that time, the heydays of UNIX
> in that it got heralded everywhere as the new king of all systems.

There are *lots* of potential reasons, many of them good ones. The
issue about machine speed shows up in the infamous "Worse is better"
paper, and I talk about this particular case in my "Good enough is
best" paper <URL: http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/good-enough.html >
(which provides pointers to "Worse is better" as well as covering the
salient features).

> Next thing you knew you got System V in a version per hardware
> manufacturer. Sinix, Ultrix, Whateverix. Novell had it easy.

Actually, Ultrix is a BSD derivative, and didn't require a SysV
license. But they changed it later. Ditto for Sun and Mips - both
started on BSD with a SysIII license, then went to SysV.  But The Unix
market splintering that way was what "the kernel APIs being different"
was referring to. You couldn't port an application to Unix - you had
to port it to each variant. Since VMS - and later NT - were usually a
larger market than any single Unix vendor, even if it wasn't as big as
all of them put together, it got preference.

> By
> the time X got both workable *and* affordable there was no beating
> the PC lead. Lotus ruled and WordStar was king, then WordPerfect.
> Neither of which ran on UNIX or worked with X.

Later, of course, WordPerfect started running on nearly anything - I
even had an Amiga vesion at one point.

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groggy@iname.com wrote:

>FBSD 3.5.1
>
>after about 5 years i have been used to FBSD compiling
>without errors, so i assume i must have something wrong
>in my kernel config, cuz i sure get alot of them now.
>it is not bad memory or anything, cuz it's the same
>errors everytime.  can someone please point out
>the error of my ways?
>
>please ditto a copy of any replies off the list.
>
>thanks.

I searched the rest of your message but couldn't find "error".
I see lots of warnings, and I often get similar, but I don't
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Tim McMillen wrote:

> 
> What kind of  a response is that?  The guy offers help, and just 
> because he doesn't know there are already IRC servers, you send a 
> caustic, sarcastic reply.  

Fact: Major ircds are developed on FreeBSD.
Fact: Major servers run on FreeBSD.
Fact: There has already been an irc.freebsd.org.
Fact: Everyone and/or their monkey can run ircd.
Fact: Everyone and/or their monkey is running ircd.
Fact: Ircd is usually run by the monkeys.

Opinion: Anyone unaware of the above facts is very clearly not qualified
to operate an irc daemon owned by the FreeBSD project. (There, I put it
nicely this time.)

If my attitude bothers you, please take it private, the list doesn't care
to see another batch of flames. We can settle this like real monkeys, even
if it means falling out of the tree...

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> >FBSD 3.5.1
> >
> >after about 5 years i have been used to FBSD compiling
> >without errors, so i assume i must have something wrong
> >in my kernel config, cuz i sure get alot of them now.
> >it is not bad memory or anything, cuz it's the same
> >errors everytime.  can someone please point out
> >the error of my ways?
> >
> >please ditto a copy of any replies off the list.
> >
> >thanks.
> 
> I searched the rest of your message but couldn't find "error".
> I see lots of warnings, and I often get similar, but I don't
> think we need worry as long as the end result Works.
> 
> John.

thanks :)  i meant "error" as in that it used to be frowned upon to have
warnings in kernel compiles.  i understand they are warnings - however -
FBSD developers used to take some pride in having clean code that didn't
produce warnings - and i never had any pre 3.0-series. it isn't comforting
to see 10's of variables throughout the kernel being initialized by
incompatable pointer types, variables in functions that are unused,
variables that are uninitialized, etc.  that is kinda sloppy, no? :) for
developers claiming to uphold the highest standards in coding?


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Kasper (swebase) (kasper@swebase.com) wrote:
> 
> Is here anyone who can help me to get java server pages to work on my FreeBSD box?

You will need to install a Java Development Kit (see /usr/ports/java
for several options), and then install Jakarta Tomcat. Tomcat is
in the ports collection as well, I believe. Information on Tomcat
can be found at http://jakarta.apache.org

Tomcat can be used as a stand-alone web server, but you would be better
off integrating Tomcat with Apache (/usr/ports/www/apache*).

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Mike Meyer wrote:
> 
> ...
> There are *lots* of potential reasons, many of them good ones. The
> issue about machine speed shows up in the infamous "Worse is better"
> paper, and I talk about this particular case in my "Good enough is
> best" paper <URL: http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/good-enough.html >
> (which provides pointers to "Worse is better" as well as covering the
> salient features).

Sorry Mike, but there is a *lot* of information Out There. Can't
read it all. If not only 'coz I then would have to pull my head
out of that warm and cozy brown place <g>.

> Actually, Ultrix is a BSD derivative, and didn't require a SysV
> license. But they changed it later. Ditto for Sun and Mips - both
> started on BSD with a SysIII license, then went to SysV.  But The Unix
> market splintering that way was what "the kernel APIs being different"
> was referring to. You couldn't port an application to Unix - you had
> to port it to each variant. Since VMS - and later NT - were usually a
> larger market than any single Unix vendor, even if it wasn't as big as
> all of them put together, it got preference.

Yeah, I know. Does Bill Joy really need mentioning? Still, I wasn't
there. I was stuck on this side of the 'pond'. Hence all second
hand info. Not by choice, just by circumstance.

That does not mean I agree on the point of API difference. Apps
got ported allright, back then. They just didn't execute good
enough. No fancy title will change that impression for me <g>.

Besides, the mini market really was on its way out in those days.
Even the mainframe market - or especially if you believe the trade
rags - felt the heet. So porting... What porting. I know it was
conceived to be a big issue, but just a minor one to me. Accorind
to Murphy's Law I am of course wrong in this :).

[Hm. Still got a honest to whatever 16 bit, fridge sized, mini 
standing in the corner, supporting an 80386SX Novell server :)].

> Later, of course, WordPerfect started running on nearly anything - I
> even had an Amiga vesion at one point.

Yeah, but "alas", too little, too late.

The quote because I'm more of a WordStar guy myself. Those keys
are hardwired into my nervous system. No amount of vi, emacs, or
whatever experience will change that. What is truly a pits is
using all three (i.e. jstar, vi, emacs) at the same time in
different xterms. Or shells, for that matter.

Ah well, LSATYD (Buddha, ~500 BC ;).

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Roelof Osinga <roelof@nisser.com> types:
> Mike Meyer wrote:
> That does not mean I agree on the point of API difference. Apps
> got ported allright, back then. They just didn't execute good
> enough. No fancy title will change that impression for me <g>.

Hmm - I think we're talking about different apps. Personally, I find
it hard to believe that *anything* could fail because it "didn't
execute good enough", given how many copies of their stuff MS sells.

> Besides, the mini market really was on its way out in those days.
> Even the mainframe market - or especially if you believe the trade
> rags - felt the heet. So porting... What porting. I know it was
> conceived to be a big issue, but just a minor one to me. Accorind
> to Murphy's Law I am of course wrong in this :).

I think we may be talking about different apps - or maybe I have a
warped view. I worked for Ingres, and later Sybase, and deciding to
support a new platform was a big deal. Yeah, everyone supported Sun,
and almost everyone supported hp and dec (both of which were in both
the mini and workstation market), but beyond that, it was pretty
haphazard.

> > Later, of course, WordPerfect started running on nearly anything - I
> > even had an Amiga vesion at one point.
> Yeah, but "alas", too little, too late.

Well, to little to capture the market. But Word Perfect is still
around, and still being updated. You can even run it on FreeBSD, if
you want to.

> The quote because I'm more of a WordStar guy myself. Those keys
> are hardwired into my nervous system. No amount of vi, emacs, or
> whatever experience will change that. What is truly a pits is
> using all three (i.e. jstar, vi, emacs) at the same time in
> different xterms. Or shells, for that matter.

I was going to ask if there was a version of WordStar around, but I
don't see jstar in the ports tree :-(. Personally, I don't run emacs
in an xterm - I give it it's own window. Much faster display updates
that way.

I do know about keystrokes, though. Mine date from Mince on CP/M-80. I
even spent one summer hacking up a microemacs so my muscle memory
actions (mostly GNUish) did what I expected them to.

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jhunt@blaz.niinet.net <jhunt@blaz.homeip.net> types:
> only information I see is ftp version 6.0.  Anyone know
> exactly what ftp program it uses by default?  I would like
> to install the same type on a linux machine I use at work.

I don't know what you're comparing it to, but ncftp is available for
Linux, and to me is mostly just adds convenience changes to ftp (at
least for the early versions of ncftp).

Assuming you don't need the account feature, anyway.

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 05:04:58PM -0600, Michael J. Turner wrote:
> Im trying to figure out how to redirect a certain port, I don't know if you should use
> natd or not. But any how, what Im trying to do is where if im at a friends house
> I could VNC to my windows machine at home. how do I configure it to do that?
> if anyone can help I would really appreciate it. =)

WinVNC uses port 58Ox AND 590x where x is the Display Number. You need to add some lines to /etc/natd.conf or whatever your
natd file is. My natd.conf looks like:
#set up VNC
redirect_port   tcp     192.168.1.2:5802       5802
redirect_port   udp     192.168.1.2:5802       5802
redirect_port   tcp     192.168.1.2:5902       5902
redirect_port   udp     192.168.1.2:5902       5902

redirect_port   tcp     192.168.1.4:5804      5804
redirect_port   udp     192.168.1.4:5804      5804
redirect_port   tcp     192.168.1.4:5904      5904
redirect_port   udp     192.168.1.4:5904      5904

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Sorry, it does belong in -questions.
The WWW server is a separate box behind the firewall with a public IP #
redirected to it's private IP #.
Regards, John.
----- Original Message -----
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> [ freebsd-net removed ]
>
> ++ 24/01/01 08:07 -0500 - John Telford:
> >I'd like to get the settings in the right place so I'm asking the
experts. Freebsd 4.2 release with firewall type set to "simple".
> >It works but I'd like to allow 2 things through.
> >SSH connections from the public side to the firewall.
>
> You'll need to modify /etc/rc.firewall.  Look through until you see
something
> like:
>
> [Ss][Ii][Mm][Pp][Ll][Ee])
>         ############
>         # This is a prototype setup for a simple firewall.  Configure this
>         # machine as a named server and ntp server, and point all the
machines
>         # on the inside at this machine for those services.
>         ############
>
> Scroll down and before the command that says "Reject&Log all setup of
incoming
> connections ...", add:
>
> # Allow access to SSH
> ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 22 setup
>
> >Connections to a Web server on the inside.
>
> I'm not quite sure what you mean - do you have a webserver on another
port?
> WWW is already allowed through in the simple firewall type.
>
> >
> >Thanks in advance. John.
>
> -pete
>
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:03:34PM +0000, groggy@iname.com wrote:
> > >FBSD 3.5.1
> > >
> > >after about 5 years i have been used to FBSD compiling
> > >without errors, so i assume i must have something wrong
> > >in my kernel config, cuz i sure get alot of them now.
> > >it is not bad memory or anything, cuz it's the same
> > >errors everytime.  can someone please point out
> > >the error of my ways?
> > >
> > >please ditto a copy of any replies off the list.
> > >
> > >thanks.
> >=20
> > I searched the rest of your message but couldn't find "error".
> > I see lots of warnings, and I often get similar, but I don't
> > think we need worry as long as the end result Works.
> >=20
> > John.
>=20
> thanks :)  i meant "error" as in that it used to be frowned upon to have
> warnings in kernel compiles.  i understand they are warnings - however -
> FBSD developers used to take some pride in having clean code that didn't
> produce warnings - and i never had any pre 3.0-series. it isn't comforting
> to see 10's of variables throughout the kernel being initialized by
> incompatable pointer types, variables in functions that are unused,
> variables that are uninitialized, etc.  that is kinda sloppy, no? :) for
> developers claiming to uphold the highest standards in coding?

A couple of points:

* We didn't used to enable (as many) compiler warnings during the compile
* recent versions of gcc are much pickier about warnings
* Most warnings are not bugs
* Patches are accepted

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:26:02PM -0700, David M. Smith wrote:

> Here is the problem.  I would really like to have app2 pass a
> procedure's address to app1 and thus allow app1 to use the callback (for
> app2) when specific events occur.

Processes run in separate address spaces under UNIX. Sounds like you
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address space), or redesign your application.

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Did you ever get beyond this?  I am getting the same error message (when
I attempt to run vmware_config.pl per the INSTALL file instructions).  I
originally installed vmware2 from /usr/ports.  Note that this is on a
fairly recent (1/23/01) FreeBSD-4.2-STABLE system.

Thanks,
Bob

On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 03:04:16PM -0800, Bill Schoolcraft wrote:
> Krzysztof Parzyszek wrote:
>  
> > Mine only says something about the mouse, but it's nothing
> > critical. Try to create a fresh configuration and see if it fails
> > again.
> 
> Well, now I'm at the point where vmware is looking for "insmod"
> 
> 
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David M. Smith <DSmith@Cenus.COM> types:
> I would like the two applications to be able to utilize several shared
> procedures.  No problem, I setup and I am using a shared library.
> 
> Here is the problem.  I would really like to have app2 pass a
> procedure's address to app1 and thus allow app1 to use the callback (for
> app2) when specific events occur.

I don't think you can safely pass addresses around like that. Just
because the physical memory for a library is shared doesn't mean that
the library is mapped into the same place in the address space of all
processes that use it. I may have that wrong, in which case I'll be
corrected quickly - but would like the correction to include a pointer
to implementation details, because I've got questions in that case!

Well, there is an exception - if you can arrange to get app1 and app2
running on different threads of the same process, you can do
this. That also makes sharing code a lot easier.

> I have been unable to locate any information regarding execution of an
> application, address space or call-back handling.  If you have any
> reading suggestions please let me know.

The simple solution is probably rpc. Check the rpc(3) man page for
information on how to use that. Personally, I skipped that and just
use CORBA. You'll have to install an ORB from the ports tree. If
you're using more than one language, you may need more than one
ORB. The serious upside of this is that, once you've got it set up,
you can debug CORBA objects in an interactive interpreter.

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It's saying at boot up

natd: unknown option redirect_port

this is what I have in my rc.conf:
moused_enable="YES"
gateway_enable="YES"
ifconfig_ed0="inet 192.168.4.1  netmask 255.255.255.0"
ifconfig_rl0="DHCP"
hostname="gateway.daimon.com"
firewall_enable="YES"
natd_program="/sbin/natd"
natd_enable="YES"
natd_interface="rl0"
# natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"
# ssh_enable="YES"

and this is what i have in my natd.conf

interface rl0
use_sockets yes
same_ports yes
dynamic yes
-a 24.240.235.35
redirect_port tcp    192.168.4.2:5802  5802
redircet_port udp    192.168.4.2:5802  5802
redirect_port tcp    192.168.4.2:5902  5902
redirect_port udp    192.168.4.2:5902  5902

Is there something i have setup wrong?

-Mike






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I am attempting to install this patch:

# fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/patches/SA-01:08/ipfw-3.x.patch

on FreeBSD 3.1.  (I would have liked to upgrade to 4.2, but I am
unable to get 4.2 to work with my ethernet cards [3C509B])

I am following these instructions distributed with the advisory:

> Execute the following commands as root:
> 
> # cd /usr/src
> # patch -p < /path/to/patch
> # cp /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp.h /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw.h /usr/include/netinet/
> # cd /usr/src/sbin/ipfw
> # make depend && make all install
> # cd /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfw
> # make depend && make all install

When I run patch, the patch command stops with a prompt "File to
patch:".  I've attached the full transcript from the patch command.

I don't really have the skill or time to teach myself about the kernel
source and try to diagnose this problem.  Therefore, I'm hoping
someone can offer me a simple solution to the problem.

Can this patch be applied to a 3.1 kernel?  If not, is there a patch
for this version of the kernel?

Thank you,
Rob.




baker# patch -p < /fd/ipfw-3.x.patch 
Hmm...  Looks like a unified diff to me...
The text leading up to this was:
--------------------------
|Index: sys/netinet/ip_fw.c
|===================================================================
|RCS file: /usr/home/ncvs/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw.c,v
|retrieving revision 1.103.2.12
|retrieving revision 1.103.2.13
|diff -u -r1.103.2.12 -r1.103.2.13
|--- sys/netinet/ip_fw.c        2000/05/12 07:22:57     1.103.2.12
|+++ sys/netinet/ip_fw.c        2001/01/13 02:44:21     1.103.2.13
--------------------------
Patching file sys/netinet/ip_fw.c using Plan A...
Hunk #1 succeeded at 146 (offset -100 lines).
Hunk #2 succeeded at 757 with fuzz 2 (offset -420 lines).
Hmm...  The next patch looks like a unified diff to me...
The text leading up to this was:
--------------------------
|Index: sys/netinet/ip_fw.h
|===================================================================
|RCS file: /usr/home/ncvs/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw.h,v
|retrieving revision 1.36.2.5
|retrieving revision 1.36.2.6
|diff -u -r1.36.2.5 -r1.36.2.6
|--- sys/netinet/ip_fw.h        2000/02/13 12:18:36     1.36.2.5
|+++ sys/netinet/ip_fw.h        2001/01/13 02:44:21     1.36.2.6
--------------------------
Patching file sys/netinet/ip_fw.h using Plan A...
Hunk #1 succeeded at 63.
Hunk #2 succeeded at 148 with fuzz 1 (offset -60 lines).
Hunk #3 succeeded at 184 (offset -60 lines).
Hmm...  The next patch looks like a unified diff to me...
The text leading up to this was:
--------------------------
|Index: sys/netinet/tcp.h
|===================================================================
|RCS file: /usr/home/ncvs/src/sys/netinet/tcp.h,v
|retrieving revision 1.10.2.1
|retrieving revision 1.10.2.2
|diff -u -r1.10.2.1 -r1.10.2.2
|--- sys/netinet/tcp.h  1999/08/29 16:29:52     1.10.2.1
|+++ sys/netinet/tcp.h  2001/01/13 02:44:21     1.10.2.2
--------------------------
Patching file sys/netinet/tcp.h using Plan A...
Hunk #1 succeeded at 64.
Hmm...  The next patch looks like a unified diff to me...
The text leading up to this was:
--------------------------
|Index: sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c
|===================================================================
|RCS file: /usr/home/ncvs/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c,v
|retrieving revision 1.64.2.12
|retrieving revision 1.64.2.13
|diff -u -r1.64.2.12 -r1.64.2.13
|--- sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c   2000/02/13 12:19:54     1.64.2.12
|+++ sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c   2001/01/13 02:44:21     1.64.2.13
--------------------------
File to patch: 



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On Wed, 24 January 2001, Steven Davidson wrote:

not working here.  i do not think that the current drivers for audio support the Maestro 3x that the new dells come with.

> 
> david@metalogik.com wrote:
> 
> > anyone have sound on a dell i8k working?
> >
> > how?
> >
> > cheers,
> >     david j harding - david@metalogik.com
> >   metalogik industries
> >
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> 
> No, but I just got sound working on FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE.
> My computer is a Dell Optiplex GX1 with built-in audio hardware
> (no sound card added).
> The effort seemed trivial, and may apply to your machine.
> Please post your results to the list.
> 
> This is all I did:
> 
> I added this line to the end of my devices section of my kernel
> config file at /sys/i386/conf/MYKERNEL:
> device          pcm
> 
> I did:
> cd /dev
> ./MAKEDEV snd0
> 
> rebuild the kernel and reboot.
> 
> cat sorrydave.au > /dev/audio
> 
> And it worked.
> 
> Also of interest,
> % cat /dev/sndstat
> FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jan 22 2001 16:21:02
> Installed devices:
> pcm0: <CS423x> at io 0x534 irq 5 drq 1:0 (1p/1r channels duplex)

cheers,
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Ok, sorry this is way off topic to -questions, and I like to avoid 
that, but since the discussion is already here...
I suppose beyond this we should cc -chat and drop -questions.

On Wednesday January 24, 2001 18:14, Roelof Osinga wrote:
> Mike Meyer wrote:
> > ...
> > Actually, Ultrix is a BSD derivative, and didn't require a SysV
> > license. But they changed it later. Ditto for Sun and Mips - both
> > started on BSD with a SysIII license, then went to SysV.  But The
> > Unix market splintering that way was what "the kernel APIs being
> > different" was referring to. You couldn't port an application to
> > Unix - you had to port it to each variant. Since VMS - and later NT
> > - were usually a larger market than any single Unix vendor, even if
> > it wasn't as big as all of them put together, it got preference.
>
> That does not mean I agree on the point of API difference. Apps
> got ported allright, back then. 

Many did.  But empirically many vendors either gave up support for Unix 
altogether or only supported a few Unix types because it was simply too 
expensive to provide support for them all.
	Do you think anyone really develops for Windows because of it's 
technical superiority?  Of course not.  They develop for windows 
because of its ubiquity.  They can write the program once, learn on 
platform to support it on and have acces to a large market.  Sure 
porting the software is not that expensive (it IS an expense though), 
but the support gets very expensive.  You have to hire people that know 
the ins and outs of each platform that your software runs on (if you 
want to do it right that is.)
	I believe that is the biggest reason Unix did not succeed more than it 
did.  I also believe it is the biggest thing holding it back now.  Unix 
was obviously (and still probably is) far technically superior to 
Windows, but it was the universality of the Windows API that allowed 
them to capture market share.  Add that to extinguishing competition 
and that allowed MS to gain a monopoly with Windows.
	Right now it's far from trivial to even write an app that works on all 
of the Linux distributions.  Then look at the fact that you have to 
have another one for each of FreeBSD, OpenBSD, IRIX, HP-UX, SCO, etc to 
even have support for most of the Unix platforms.  That, unfortunately 
makes it economically sensible to develop for Windows, becuase it give 
you access to a bigger market with less expense, even though the 
platform is technically inferior to pretty much any Unix.
	That is what has created the lock in that we have into the technically 
inferior OS.  Free competition has failed to result in the best 
solution in this case.  (and it does in many cases of 
infrastructure--like the CA power situation. I'll save my rant on that 
for another forum, and I may even write up an econ paper on it.)
	The best case would be if there was a unified API (or ABI, I don't 
understand the diff) that all applications could be written for.  This 
would of course result in compromise since no one API can be best for 
all things, but having one API that all applications were written for 
would force Windows and Word to compete an an even field with other 
OS's and Apps.  It wouldn't take long for them either fail, or shape up 
in order to compete.
	Unfortunately I don't think this is possible, but who knows.  If even 
major opensource OS's that try to do The Right Thing (tm) can't agree 
on a single API due to technical issues and differences of opinion, 
then how could commercial vendors do it also?

						Tim


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Wow!

I am really amazed at the amount of good information on this site!

Thanks!

Mark

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:52:16AM -0500, Vlad wrote:
> Use folder save-hooks. www.mutt.org and look at sample .muttrc files. 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:29:15AM -0500, Mark B. Withers (mwithers@one.net) wrote:
> > I usually type in my own file names when I save messages. Mutt tends
> > to create it's own filenames based on the "from" field before the
> > "@host.com".
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:55:33AM -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:45:38AM -0500, Mark B. Withers wrote:
> > > > To those who helped me with my question regarding mutt..thanks! 
> > > > 
> > > > My problem was that whenever I would save an email message, it would
> > > > save the files in my ~ directory.
> > > > 
> > > > I had the correct parameter set in my .muttrc
> > > > 
> > > > set folder="~/Mail"
> > > > 
> > > > However it would still dump all saved messages to my ~ directory
> > > > instead of ~/Mail.
> > > 
> > > You were calling things,
> > > 
> > >   =filename
> > > 
> > > When you saved them, right?
> > > -- 
> > > Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> -- 
> 
> - --
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Thank you for sharing that information. Succinct and to the point.

Mark

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:44:36PM -0500, Dennis Moore wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:29:15AM -0500, Mark B. Withers wrote:
> > I usually type in my own file names when I save messages. Mutt tends
> > to create it's own filenames based on the "from" field before the
> > "@host.com".
> > 
> > Mark
> 
> if you don't preface the filename with '=' it saves them in pwd.
> 
> > 
> > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:55:33AM -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:45:38AM -0500, Mark B. Withers wrote:
> > > > To those who helped me with my question regarding mutt..thanks! 
> > > > 
> > > > My problem was that whenever I would save an email message, it would
> > > > save the files in my ~ directory.
> > > > 
> > > > I had the correct parameter set in my .muttrc
> > > > 
> > > > set folder="~/Mail"
> > > > 
> > > > However it would still dump all saved messages to my ~ directory
> > > > instead of ~/Mail.
> > > 
> > > You were calling things,
> > > 
> > >   =filename
> > > 
> > > When you saved them, right?
> > > -- 
> > > Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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groggy@iname.com wrote:

>> >FBSD 3.5.1
>> >
>> >after about 5 years i have been used to FBSD compiling
>> >without errors, so i assume i must have something wrong
>> >in my kernel config, cuz i sure get alot of them now.
>> >it is not bad memory or anything, cuz it's the same
>> >errors everytime.  can someone please point out
>> >the error of my ways?
>> >
>> >please ditto a copy of any replies off the list.
>> >
>> >thanks.
>>=20
>> I searched the rest of your message but couldn't find "error".
>> I see lots of warnings, and I often get similar, but I don't
>> think we need worry as long as the end result Works.
>>=20
>> John.
>
>thanks :)  i meant "error" as in that it used to be frowned upon to have
>warnings in kernel compiles.  i understand they are warnings - however -
>FBSD developers used to take some pride in having clean code that didn't
>produce warnings - and i never had any pre 3.0-series. it isn't =
comforting
>to see 10's of variables throughout the kernel being initialized by
>incompatable pointer types, variables in functions that are unused,
>variables that are uninitialized, etc.  that is kinda sloppy, no? :) for
>developers claiming to uphold the highest standards in coding?

Interesting. My first experience with FreeBSD was with 3.0-Release, so
I've always seen them.  Perhaps they were switched off by default on 2.x.

I'm glad you put that smiley near the "sloppy" word.  High standard
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I'm looking for a PC-to-Phone package for my system.  Anyone know of
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:02:26PM -0600, Michael J. Turner wrote:
> natd: unknown option redirect_port
> interface rl0
> use_sockets yes
> same_ports yes
> dynamic yes
> -a 24.240.235.35
> redirect_port tcp    192.168.4.2:5802  5802
> redircet_port udp    192.168.4.2:5802  5802
> redirect_port tcp    192.168.4.2:5902  5902
> redirect_port udp    192.168.4.2:5902  5902
> 
> Is there something i have setup wrong?
> 

Try adding unregistered_only

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Thanks for the advice.

I did read the manual.txt for mutt - even took notes on index cards as
I read. But was discouraged and missed the crucial information
contained in the manual page.

I merely used the sample .muttrc that came with the distribution (with
some minor modifications).

Mark

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 05:00:17AM -0500, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> * Mark B. Withers <mwithers@one.net> [20010124 11:46]: writing on the subject '<solution> mutt saves messages to wrong directory'
> Mark> To those who helped me with my question regarding mutt..thanks! 
> Mark> 
> Mark> My problem was that whenever I would save an email message, it would
> Mark> save the files in my ~ directory.
> Mark> 
> Mark> I had the correct parameter set in my .muttrc
> Mark> 
> Mark> set folder="~/Mail"
> Mark> 
> Mark> However it would still dump all saved messages to my ~ directory
> Mark> instead of ~/Mail.
> Mark> 
> Mark> I have found a work-around which is to cd to my ~/Mail directory
> Mark> first, then start mutt.
> Mark> 
> Mark> Hope this helps someone in the future!
> 
> You did not read the mutt man page. There is even a sample muttrc in your
> system. Please read it and avoid workarounds.
> 
> -Wash
> 
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well it's not showing me that error any more, but it seems that I cant VNC
to me.

-Mike

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> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:02:26PM -0600, Michael J. Turner wrote:
> > natd: unknown option redirect_port
> > interface rl0
> > use_sockets yes
> > same_ports yes
> > dynamic yes
> > -a 24.240.235.35
> > redirect_port tcp    192.168.4.2:5802  5802
> > redircet_port udp    192.168.4.2:5802  5802
> > redirect_port tcp    192.168.4.2:5902  5902
> > redirect_port udp    192.168.4.2:5902  5902
> >
> > Is there something i have setup wrong?
> >
>
> Try adding unregistered_only
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Jan 24 16:27:48 2001
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And here is the hacked page...

http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/2001/01/23/www.microsoft.co.nz/

On Wednesday, January 24, 2001 6:33 PM
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: Actually it was hacked... but not their main site... that was totally a
: microshaft screw up...
: http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,41387,00.html
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: SWen
:
: At 07:22 AM 1/24/01, Hector wrote:
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: >         Does anyone know what's going on with Bill Gate's website ?? :-)
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You may want to try editing your /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file and
look for the line beginning with 

DM

and substitute in what you wish your return address to appear

DMmy.isp.com

Also, look for a line that begins with

DS

and substitute in what the name of your mail server is

DSmail.my.isp.com

Save the changes, then stop and restart sendmail.

I found this answer from The Complete FreeBSD.

Mark

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 05:36:33AM -0500, Kelly Hendrix wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Trying to use mutt as my everyday mailer and am having problems sending
> email.  Evidently my local address is resolved with a DNS lookup and
> I keep getting From:kelly@sd3.mailbank.com back from any test messages
> I transmit.  Added disable_dns_lookups = yes to my main.cf file in 
> Postfix and am still having problems.  I've also tried masquerading and
> added a sender_canonical_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_canonical entry
> in my main.cf.  Didn't have this problem with Pine (which I figure does
> it the wrong way ;)  Just wondering what I'm doing wrong?
> 
> Kelly
> 
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I've got an old laptop with a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 PCMCIA card in
it. This was working just dandy under 4.0. I just cvsup'd the box to
4.2-S and this card died. The machine reports the MAC address of the
card erroneously (aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa), complains of device timouts, and
corrupted NIC memory. It also reports the card as  being an NE1000 (8
bit) where previously it had been reported as an NE2000 (16 bit).

Swapped out the card to no avail. Though, oddly enough, booting off of
the 4.2 boot floppies would make it all the way through an FTP install
of 4.2. Once installed, it failed again as described above.

Has anyone had any similar problems?

I have verified that it's not an IRQ conflict, tested the card in
another machine and swapped out the card. It's not the PCMCIA slot or
controller as these both work fine when booted off the FreeBSD boot
floppies. 

I can't think of anything else to try.


-James



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Ignore this. Right after I sent it Christopher Sean Hilton's and
Johnahon Chen's posts showed up.


-James

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 07:29:12PM -0500, James Snow wrote:
> I've got an old laptop with a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 PCMCIA card in
> it. This was working just dandy under 4.0. I just cvsup'd the box to
> 4.2-S and this card died. The machine reports the MAC address of the
> card erroneously (aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa), complains of device timouts, and
> corrupted NIC memory. It also reports the card as  being an NE1000 (8
> bit) where previously it had been reported as an NE2000 (16 bit).
> 
> Swapped out the card to no avail. Though, oddly enough, booting off of
> the 4.2 boot floppies would make it all the way through an FTP install
> of 4.2. Once installed, it failed again as described above.
> 
> Has anyone had any similar problems?
> 
> I have verified that it's not an IRQ conflict, tested the card in
> another machine and swapped out the card. It's not the PCMCIA slot or
> controller as these both work fine when booted off the FreeBSD boot
> floppies. 
> 
> I can't think of anything else to try.
> 
> 
> -James
> 
> 
> 
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Mike Meyer wrote:
> 
> ...
> Hmm - I think we're talking about different apps. Personally, I find
> it hard to believe that *anything* could fail because it "didn't
> execute good enough", given how many copies of their stuff MS sells.

MS stuff 'looks good'. But I guess you had to stand besides secretaries
actually working with the stuff in a time-shared environment. It wasn't
a pretty sight. It was OK for programmers, somehow. I guess it's 
because a) we're used to it and b) caused it in the first place :). But
if you're a non-suspecting employee you get annoyed by inexplicable
delays. Heck. Even I do. I shelled out the - whoa, boy! - $25 for
a MI/X licence and there are some delays, and beeps!, that really
annoy me. But, well, I've seen worse <g>.

> I think we may be talking about different apps - or maybe I have a
> warped view. I worked for Ingres, and later Sybase, and deciding to
> support a new platform was a big deal. Yeah, everyone supported Sun,
> and almost everyone supported hp and dec (both of which were in both
> the mini and workstation market), but beyond that, it was pretty
> haphazard.

Nah, rooted for Apollo myself ;). Then again, I'm a contrary kind
of guy. HP, of course, bought Apollo. But that's a different 
perspective. Yours is the systems, mine's the level below. Ingres
ran (runs?) on everything we would've needed. Later, Sybase too.
So what porting problem?

Mind you, back in '81 we picked Data Access's Data Flex (because
dBase II supported but two files and mainframes were outa reach)
and sticked with it. Sure, Ingres was better and, later, Sybase too.
But also out of reach for our market niches.

But I was talking about the desktops, hence end-users. You know,
the wee folk that use the apps by the folk that use the apps you
write/wrote ;). They don't care about TCP-C stats, they care about
how long it takes to actually see the char your key'd.

> Well, to little to capture the market. But Word Perfect is still
> around, and still being updated. You can even run it on FreeBSD, if
> you want to.

Nope. Never could get used to those weird key-combo's. Seems OS/2
is also 'still around'. Though I laurate IBM for their support. MS
could - and should - learn from them. Did, too (FUD et al :). But
that they're still around does not mean they've got the market
position they once had. That's like saying CP/M apps. can still 
be found. Doesn't mean CP/M is still a viable option.

Don't get me wrong. I'ld rather see WP succeed then SM-Word, but...

> I was going to ask if there was a version of WordStar around, but I
> don't see jstar in the ports tree :-(. Personally, I don't run emacs
> in an xterm - I give it it's own window. Much faster display updates
> that way.

Nah, that's jed. Not to be mistaken with joe's and many's the time
I did just that. The one is slang knowledgable, the other not. Both
claim WordStar support. It's jed you want, though <g>.

Well... either that or joe. Hm:

nisser:/home/www/Slak$ ls /usr/ports/distfiles/j*
/usr/ports/distfiles/joe2.8.tar.Z
/usr/ports/distfiles/jpegsrc.v6b.tar.gz

Guess it's joe's.

There's also WordStar support in Emacs. Tried it once, but that was
a long time ago. Back when OS/2's (what's his name, German guy) GNU
port was recent. (Something like EMX?).

> I do know about keystrokes, though. Mine date from Mince on CP/M-80. I
> even spent one summer hacking up a microemacs so my muscle memory
> actions (mostly GNUish) did what I expected them to.

Mince I don't know. Though the name sounds kinda familiar. Then again,
what doesn't. uEmacs I've used, too. Not enough to get muscle memory,
though. WS to the core. Heck, I've even forgotten all I once knew
about vi. I've written emacs lisp code for Data Flex syntax 
high-lighting and whatnot (CI$ days), but nowadays...


Roelof

PS like the song, it's all coming back to me now ;). I do - sorta -
remember mince. At least, if it was an emacs clone for itty-bitty
microcomputers. If not, well, did give up smoking some time ago
anyway <g>

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> Right now it's far from trivial to even write an app that works on all 
> of the Linux distributions.  Then look at the fact that you have to 
> have another one for each of FreeBSD, OpenBSD, IRIX, HP-UX, SCO, etc to 
> even have support for most of the Unix platforms.  That, unfortunately 
> makes it economically sensible to develop for Windows, becuase it give 
> you access to a bigger market with less expense, even though the 
> platform is technically inferior to pretty much any Unix.

So, by not running Red Hat Linux, you are part of the problem.
You are unintentionally supporting the Windows monopoly.

:-)

Oh wait, there's some truth to that...


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Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> types:
> 	The best case would be if there was a unified API (or ABI, I don't 
> understand the diff) that all applications could be written for.  This 

API is a programmers interface; the types used are programming
language types. ABI is a binary interface; the types used are the
types for the machine. Note that having an ABI implies that you've
specified a machine, but having an API doesn't.

So whereas an API might specify that foo accepts (int, long), the ABI
might call for a 16 bit int and a 32 bit int, two 32 bit ints, or a 32
bit int and a 64 bit int depending on the platform.

On the other hand, back in the days when compilers had both 16 and 32
bit modes, the ABI for foo might be fixed at a 16 bit int and a 32 bit
int, but the compiler would use an API of (int, long) in 16 bit mode,
and (short, int) in 32 bit mode.

Platforms that share an API can share source code. Platforms that
share an ABI can share binaries. When you compile a Linux programs to
run on FreeBSD, you're taking advantage of the API being similar
enough to allow that. When you run a Linux binary on FreeBSD, you're
taking advantage of FreeBSD emulating the Linux ABI.

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We're running the Cyrus IMAP server v1.5.24 on FreeBSD 4.1.  After a
power-failure crashed the server a few weeks ago, the system has
continued to crash every 16-20hrs - like it's a religious ceremony or
something.  The problem is somehow related to Cyrus, but we don't know
how to fix it.  We can't just delete all the mailboxes because it's the
main server for an ISP, and many customers rely on it.  Following is the
error message that keeps popping up - there has not been any variation
in the message except the process (either cyrus' "quota" or "deliver")
that causes the crash.  The system crashes immediately upon a quota
check.  We've removed the quotas and headers, and then reconstructed the
headers, but that didn't help.

Any ideas would be appreciated!

-David


Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000
fault virtual address    = 0x0
fault code    = supervisor write, page not present
instruction pointer    = 0x8:0xc01fd293
stack pointer    =    0x10:0xd4217d48
frame pointer    =    0x10:0xd4217da4
code segment    = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
                         = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process    = 61440 (quota)
interrupt mask    =   <- SMP: XXX
trap number    = 12
panic: page fault
mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000
boot() called on cpu#1

syncing disks... panic: lockmgr: locking against myself
mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000
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Hi - 

I accidentally deleted/modified a file 'troff' which is needed for
man to work while I am doing sysinstall. I am on FreeBSD Release 4.2.

Could anybody tell me how or where to download a single bin file or anyway
for me to just compile one from its source cose? 


Ming

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Tim McMillen wrote:
> 
> Ok, sorry this is way off topic to -questions, and I like to avoid
> that, but since the discussion is already here...
> I suppose beyond this we should cc -chat and drop -questions.

Yeah, actually we should. Then again, it's not a perfect world.

> Many did.  But empirically many vendors either gave up support for Unix
> altogether or only supported a few Unix types because it was simply too
> expensive to provide support for them all.
>         Do you think anyone really develops for Windows because of it's
> technical superiority?  Of course not.  They develop for windows
> because of its ubiquity.  They can write the program once, learn on
> ...

Nice argument. Does not explain the initial take off of either DOS
or Windows, though. Far from it, actually.

What it says is, basically, see: Windows is popular so they write
for it! Sure, but how did it become popular in the first place?

Marketing, most likely.

> ...
>         Unfortunately I don't think this is possible, but who knows.  If even
> major opensource OS's that try to do The Right Thing (tm) can't agree
> on a single API due to technical issues and differences of opinion,
> then how could commercial vendors do it also?

It it is indeed marketing, then it is a moot point. Maybe we'll know
- to bring it back to its origins <g> - when KDE and Gnome merge.

One should also look at what SM's doing. Started with the pen? or
whatever extension in a 3.11 beta. They've got an API explosion.
Sure, they call *all* Windows but are they still? Truly? Remember
when they said there could be only one? [heck, nice line for
a movie title :)] Well, there ain't.

You can't run NT5/2K/Whatever on a pocket thingum. Nor can you run
what's its name on a server. Sure. The API's sorta look alike...
But just give it time ;). [I got that T-shirt :]

Roelof

PS it's still sorta to do with a question about FreeBSD('s marketing
position; look at the bright side).

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"Albert D. Cahalan" wrote:
> 
> ...
> So, by not running Red Hat Linux, you are part of the problem.
> You are unintentionally supporting the Windows monopoly.
> 
> :-)
> 
> Oh wait, there's some truth to that...

Yep. But that's also what makes life interesting enough to live ;).

Roelof

PS SLS I have but didn't install, am still a slackware kinda guy <g,d&r>

PPS what do you mean, unintentionally?

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Roelof Osinga <roelof@nisser.com> types:
> Tim McMillen wrote:
> > Many did.  But empirically many vendors either gave up support for Unix
> > altogether or only supported a few Unix types because it was simply too
> > expensive to provide support for them all.
> >         Do you think anyone really develops for Windows because of it's
> > technical superiority?  Of course not.  They develop for windows
> > because of its ubiquity.  They can write the program once, learn on
> > ...
> Nice argument. Does not explain the initial take off of either DOS
> or Windows, though. Far from it, actually.

Correct. See the "Good enough is best" paper for that :-).

> It it is indeed marketing, then it is a moot point. Maybe we'll know
> - to bring it back to its origins <g> - when KDE and Gnome merge.

Oi, I can see it now - all the features of both, four times the memory
of either.

Thanx, but no thanx!

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jhunt@blaz.niinet.net <jhunt@blaz.homeip.net> types:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:30:10 -0600 (CST), Mike Meyer said:
> |  I don't know what you're comparing it to, but ncftp is available for
> |  Linux, and to me is mostly just adds convenience changes to ftp (at
> |  least for the early versions of ncftp).
> What I like about the FreeBSD version of ftp, it when you are
> downloading a file it actually SHOWS the status of whats going on.

I think every version of ncftp does that. I've seen a number of
different ways, though. Ncftp shows a line like so:

freedice206_37.lzh:                ETA:   0:03  352.17/612.50 kB  100.59 kB/s  

With the values on the right being updated as the download goes on.

	,mike

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> Checkout /usr/ports/sysutils/socket for a nice tool for this.
>
> I've added this line to inetd.conf
> nntp stream tcp nowait nobody  /usr/local/bin/socket 
>						socket newserver nntp
> Now I am wondering if I can use tcp wrappers on it so I can use
> hosts.allow ? How can I deny unwanted hosts ?

I add the following to hosts.allow 
socket : domain.allowed.com : allow
socket : ALL : deny
and the news redir from one machine to another works (and
other domains/ip-ranges can't use it) but for some weird
reason ftpd stopped working. If I connect to port 21
it just "timed out". It removed my redir stuff using socket
but I still have the same problem. What could be the
reason of this ? I doubt it if it has anything to do
with hosts.allow/inetd.conf ?
(using ftp on the machine and connecting to localhost
won't work and will give a time-out)

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On Wednesday January 24, 2001 20:46, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Roelof Osinga <roelof@nisser.com> types:
> > Tim McMillen wrote:
> > > Many did.  But empirically many vendors either gave up support
> > > for Unix altogether or only supported a few Unix types because it
> > > was simply too expensive to provide support for them all.
> > >         Do you think anyone really develops for Windows because
> > > of it's technical superiority?  Of course not.  They develop for
> > > windows because of its ubiquity.  They can write the program
> > > once, learn on ...
> >
> > Nice argument. Does not explain the initial take off of either DOS
> > or Windows, though. Far from it, actually.
>
> Correct. See the "Good enough is best" paper for that :-).

Wow, I just read that paper and there are some elements of gold in it's 
analysis.  Nicely done.
	I would assert that the rise of MS had a lot to due with timing and 
luck with the "Good enough" philosophy, a small bit of extreme 
shrewdness.  When IBM came out with the PC it was uniquely timed and 
positioned pricewise to be a hit.  However it was too cheap and weak to 
run Unix as they would have liked.  Enter MS-DOS.  It was the only 
thing that could run on it at the time.  It was whipped out quickly 
enough and timed correctly to get a hold.  The genius in what Microsoft 
did was the way they liscensed the OS cheaply and retained the rights 
to it.  Remember at that time MS was the small fry and IBM was the 
giant.  For MS to retain the rights to their little, "Good enough" 
(thanks Mike), was quite a coup.  Add that to they way they managed to 
get people to pay money for the development kits for it and tada, we 
have MS-Dos on every IBM compatible in the land.
	They also managed to get people to use (and even pay for) their APi's 
and development kits to write for the new OS.  That was their second 
piece of business genius.  I think Jordan Hubbard describes this a 
little better in his article about MacOSX at:
http://www.salon.com/tech/review/2000/11/17/hubbard_osx/index2.html
Though I haven't read it since it came out.  
	DOS didn't have any of the adantages or features that the better 
operating systems of the day had, but it had just enough, and it ran on 
the PC!!!   Unfortunately that's all it needed to take hold with the 
masses.
	After that the ubiquity of MS and the uncanny way they managed to 
crush competitors with a mere mention of putting out a similiar 
product, and we have the giant and the monopoly we know today.

> > It it is indeed marketing, then it is a moot point. Maybe we'll

Not marketing in the advertising sense we often think of, but shrewd 
marketing nonetheless.
	I hate many things about MS and their software, but they never would 
have gotten to the position they have without doing a few things well.  
That they certainly do and did, but it's just the severity of the 
things they do wrong that makes it so hard to swallow.

> > know - to bring it back to its origins <g> - when KDE and Gnome
> > merge.
>
> Oi, I can see it now - all the features of both, four times the
> memory of either.

I use KDE and like it, but wow, I fear that day!!  Can you say code 
bloat, crash/explosion in 23 languages?

						Tim



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The name resolution is fast in both directions, whether to or from 
the slow machine. There's no apparent delay.

Here's another twist to the story: I stopped inetd and started it 
again with -dl (debugging and logging to standard output) flags. Now 
the services are operating without delay!

C'mon, group, this is a QUESTION...

(Did activity on this list suddenly go away or is that just my imagination?)

Ralph


>Sounds like DNS problems. What happens if you execute the following on
>the slow machine,
>
>  % host <hostname or IP>
>
>Where the IP address or hostname is that of a machine that you connect
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To: Rob deFriesse <robdefriesse@mail.com>
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Subject: Re: Can't apply patch for FreeBSD Security Advisory: FreeBSD-SA-01:08.ipfw
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 07:03:28PM -0500, Rob deFriesse wrote:

> Can this patch be applied to a 3.1 kernel?  If not, is there a patch
> for this version of the kernel?

3.1 is not supported. We try and support 3.5.1, but this is difficult
since it can take significant developer time and effort to fix a
problem (often it is MUCH more difficult than fixing in 4.x).

Someone may give you an unofficial patch if you are lucky, but
otherwise you're out of luck. There have been a lot of other
significant security problems fixed since 3.1 anyway.

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:48:15PM -0800, David Fuchs wrote:
> We're running the Cyrus IMAP server v1.5.24 on FreeBSD 4.1.  After a
> power-failure crashed the server a few weeks ago, the system has
> continued to crash every 16-20hrs - like it's a religious ceremony or
> something.  The problem is somehow related to Cyrus, but we don't know
> how to fix it.  We can't just delete all the mailboxes because it's the
> main server for an ISP, and many customers rely on it.  Following is the
> error message that keeps popping up - there has not been any variation
> in the message except the process (either cyrus' "quota" or "deliver")
> that causes the crash.  The system crashes immediately upon a quota
> check.  We've removed the quotas and headers, and then reconstructed the
> headers, but that didn't help.
>=20
> Any ideas would be appreciated!

Try upgrading to 4.2-STABLE; there have been quite a few stability
fixes in the kernel since 4.1-R.

It could also be bad hardware which is failing under load.

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 07:19:03PM -0600, Greg Mowry wrote:
> What does BSD stand for?

http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/misc.html#DEFINE-BSD

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simond@irrelevant.org wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 08:06:36AM -0600, Matt Delaine wrote:
> > How do you list what ports have been installed?
> 
> use pkg_info(1), I usually use pkg_info -aI which does each package
> on a single line.
> 
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I learned something new today.  I usually just type: ls /var/db/pkg |
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 09:35:42PM -0500, Ralph Dratman wrote:
>=20
> The name resolution is fast in both directions, whether to or from=20
> the slow machine. There's no apparent delay.

DNS resolution is of the IP address you are coming _from_..try doing
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Y'all,

(AGAIN...)

The name resolution is fast in both directions, whether to or from 
the slow machine. There's no apparent delay.

Here's another twist to the story: I stopped inetd and started it 
again with -dl (debugging and logging to standard output) flags. Now 
the services are operating without delay!

C'mon, group, this is a QUESTION...

(Did activity on this list suddenly go away or is that just my 
imagination? I just joined the list, then received about 75 posts 
from Tuesday and only ONE, so far, from Wednesday, and it's almost 
the end of the day.)

Ralph Dratman

P.S. OOPS! I just re-read my original post and here's a correction: 
I'm running FreeBSD 3.3, not 2.2 as I incorrectly stated in that 
message.

==============
>Sounds like DNS problems. What happens if you execute the following on
>the slow machine,
>
>  % host <hostname or IP>
>
>Where the IP address or hostname is that of a machine that you connect
>from.


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Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> types:
> On Wednesday January 24, 2001 20:46, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > Roelof Osinga <roelof@nisser.com> types:
> > > Tim McMillen wrote:
> > > > Many did.  But empirically many vendors either gave up support
> > > > for Unix altogether or only supported a few Unix types because it
> > > > was simply too expensive to provide support for them all.
> > > >         Do you think anyone really develops for Windows because
> > > > of it's technical superiority?  Of course not.  They develop for
> > > > windows because of its ubiquity.  They can write the program
> > > > once, learn on ...
> > > Nice argument. Does not explain the initial take off of either DOS
> > > or Windows, though. Far from it, actually.
> > Correct. See the "Good enough is best" paper for that :-).
> Wow, I just read that paper and there are some elements of gold in it's 
> analysis.  Nicely done.

Thank you. If you haven't, you should read the "Worse is Better" paper
as well; it describes why Unix managed to claim the mini/server market
even though there were technically superior systems around at the
time. Unfortunately, those systems were dead before hardware got cheap
enough that your average joe could afford a system they would run on.

> 	I would assert that the rise of MS had a lot to due with timing and 
> luck with the "Good enough" philosophy, a small bit of extreme 
> shrewdness.  When IBM came out with the PC it was uniquely timed and 
> positioned pricewise to be a hit.  However it was too cheap and weak to 
> run Unix as they would have liked.  Enter MS-DOS.  It was the only 
> thing that could run on it at the time.  It was whipped out quickly 
> enough and timed correctly to get a hold.  The genius in what Microsoft 
> did was the way they liscensed the OS cheaply and retained the rights 
> to it.  Remember at that time MS was the small fry and IBM was the 
> giant.  For MS to retain the rights to their little, "Good enough" 
> (thanks Mike), was quite a coup.  Add that to they way they managed to 
> get people to pay money for the development kits for it and tada, we 
> have MS-Dos on every IBM compatible in the land.

Well, there was clearly a lot going on other than the software design
philosophy. MS's marketing has been excellent. MS keeping ownership of
the operating system has been described - by Allen, I believe - as
with words like "stealing the market". Better yet, Gates cut the deal
to provide the operating system *before* he had one; they bought
"QDOS" (Quick and Dirty Operating System) from Seattle Computer
Company after they promised to deliver it to IBM. SCC wrote QDOS just
so there was something to run on their 8088/8086 systems, while
waiting for CP/M to come out with CP/M-86. By the time CP/M-86 came
out, you got PC-DOS (the marketing name for MS-DOS on the IBM-PC) for
free, so why switch?(*)

The original retail price on the IBM-PC was outrageously high - so bad
that ComputerLand (at the time, the largest retail PC outlet in the
world) figured their initial order would be one (1). But it was from
*IBM*! Back when IBM was doing the anti-trust tango with the DOJ,
owned the mainframe market, was #1 in the mini market (but it wasn't
dominate), and claimed that "Nobody has ever been fired for buying
IBM." So people who thought the multi-user, multi-tasking desktop
systems were "toys" gladly spent four times the money on single-user,
single-tasking systems that were noticably slower.

So the clone market happened. At one point, Radio Shack introduced a
machine that was in pretty much every way better than an IBM-PC
(better graphics, more memory, better OS, etc) that sold for less than
as close to that as you could get an IBM-PC clone from them for - and
couldn't sell the things, because they weren't clones.

> 	DOS didn't have any of the adantages or features that the better 
> operating systems of the day had, but it had just enough, and it ran on 
> the PC!!!   Unfortunately that's all it needed to take hold with the 
> masses.

Actually, it was decidedly inferior to operating systems that were
available on desktop platforms before the IBM-PC came out. However, it
ran on hardware that had been designed by IBM (so it *must* be good),
and was good enough to do the job. And good enough is best....

> 	I hate many things about MS and their software, but they never would 
> have gotten to the position they have without doing a few things well.  

That's true - but it's not at all clear that *any* of those few things
are technical in nature. Being able to deliver "good enough" is the
closest I can think of.

The thing that really, really scares me - as a curmudgeon, anyway - is
that, much as I hated and complained about IBM's systems (you think
Unix is hard to use? Contemplate a system where there was no standard
io, so you always had to redirect output by file number, only the
numbers were names, and every application used a different convention
for naming them, and you have to specify record format information for
every file and ... AAIGH! I'm glad it's history), they *did not* lose
data. Sure, you could exploit the many security holes and bugs in the
system and crash them, but even when you did - you didn't lose the
document you were working on!

> > > know - to bring it back to its origins <g> - when KDE and Gnome
> > > merge.
> > Oi, I can see it now - all the features of both, four times the
> > memory of either.
> I use KDE and like it, but wow, I fear that day!!  Can you say code 
> bloat, crash/explosion in 23 languages?

My window manager has a virtual set size of 3092K, with 446K
resident. It's smaller than xterm. I'm happy :-).

*) As a truly odd aside, CP/M-68K was very clearly a v7 Unix
variant. The system include file and structures exposed to the user
were lifted pretty much directly from v7. I never fooled with CP/M-86,
so I don't know if it did the same thing, but I suspect not.

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On Wednesday, 24 January 2001 at  8:04:06 -0800, Jeffrey Adzima wrote:
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>> Randy Primeaux schrieb:
>>>
>>> what's the current preference for 4-STABLE ata RAID-1, hardware or
>>> software?
>>
>> If you have the bucks for an external SCSI Raid subsystem, I would use
>> that. Otherwise, Vinum works here in an experimental server without
>> problems since four weeks.
>
> I've read the man for vinum and tried different configs; what's the best
> way to set that up to perform raid? 

That depends on what you want to achieve.  If you find something
missing from the documentation, please let me know.

Greg
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Ameer Bauer wrote:

> I have noticed that no one realy makes cool FreeBSD wallpapers.... I
> have a few that i made and I was wondering if there was a site for me to
> post them on?

I believe there is such a site, however I dont' recall the URL. Perhaps
searching the archives may help you.



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I need help recovering a filesystem, or at least some data from it.

I am using:

 4.1-RELEASE

Machine: Compaq Deskpro 590 (Pentium 90 MHz)
RAM: 80 MB
HD: Maxtor 71687 AP 

I suffered a power outage at home where I have two FreeBSD systems.  One
of them is fine.  The other seems to have developed some issues:  during
boot, the autoboot didn't notice the unplanned reboot (odd) and so when it
tries to boot into multi-user mode, it dies while mounting drives.

fsck dies while in phase 2 (check pathnames) of a fsck on my /usr
partition (ad0s1f), and the machine locks up tighter than fort knox.  I am
not that familiar with fsck, so have not used any command line options for
fear of damaging the fs further.

I have fsck'ed the other partitions on this drive without issue, although
a number of errors were found in the /var partition.

Can someone please refer me to a specific resource or give me some idea of
how I might proceed to recover some of the data if I cannot repair this
fs?

I have look at :
Man pages and The Complete FreeBSD (old version, for FBSD 2.2.0)... the
FreeBSD website seems to be down (or at least portions of it are) so I am
encountering a little difficulty finding resources...

thanks
--Steve



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Greg? Greg Lehey ?

Aha, the writer of that book! Now's my chance to really get 'im!

EXCELLENT book! The best I've ever read by, for and about Eunuchs! 
(to paraphrase Dilbert's boss)

Seriously, I don't see why anyone would complain about your book. 
They should thank you. It is just a wonderful compendium of basically 
everything I need to know about, you know, eunuchs.

(Even though I too encountered the /var problem... very small 
potatoes in my opinion... I reinstalled and made a 40M /var 
filesystem and okay, maybe it will get full at some point, but I'm a 
big boy and will go become creative with links or something at that 
time.)

I don't ask for FLAWLESS books, just good ones, and yours is well beyond that.

(By comparison, recently I spent $35 on an O'Reilly book about 
Javascript and almost NONE of the scripts I downloaded from their 
site worked properly! I am a bit irritated about that one...)

But yours is golden. I now have a working web server with several 
virtual domains, DNS, mail and FTP servers, all working very nicely, 
with far less investment of time and mental anguish than I ever 
expected.

Thank you and best regards,

Ralph Dratman


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I know the answer to this is probably in the mail archives
somewhere, but for some reason www.freebsd.org appears to
down or unreachable from here.

Anyway I've been seeing problems with ftp being slow to
connect.  I connect and after typing in the username and
password it seems to stall sometimes for 30 seconds or
more before I get the '230 User foo logged in.' line.  I
seem to remember someone saying that it had to do with
reverse DNS lookups and waiting for them to timeout, but
I don't remember the solution.

I'm running ftpd from inetd.conf with 'ftpd -lR' if that
matters.  When I disable it in inetd, HUP inetd, and try
to start ftpd with 'ftpd -lRD' I see the following in
/var/log/messages.

Jan 24 22:11:08 db ftpd[69699]: control socket: Protocol not supported

Any ideas?  Thanks.

-steve


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Howdy....

This is probably a bit OT, but on the plus side the info that I 
garner will go a long way to furthering my understanding of the Unix 
way. ;,)

I have a small LAN -- 1 FBSD box; 1 DOS box; 1 win95 box. My 
immediate problem is with my DOS box which has been Unix-ified as 
much as is possible (Korn shell; full complement of Unix utilities, 
etc.) I want to run PCElm or PC-Pine. -- No! I can't use my FBSD box 
to do email. Long story!

I've been reading up on the user's "system mailbox" and his "personal 
mailbox", i.e. $HOME/mbox/duke. I now realize that these "mailboxes" 
are simply files into which email messages get appended -- as are 
various "topical" folders.

The mail gateway program that I currently use saves my mail as .wrk 
and .txt pairs -- supposedly in "the Unix way". Works great with my 
DOS PMail MUA, but if I want to run a quasi-Unix MUA like PCElm, I 
need my mail saved in a Unix-like "system mailbox -- i.e. one big 
file.

On a Unix system, fetchmail is probably the beast responsible for 
stuffing the "system mailbox" with POP3 stuff. With a permanent 
Internet connection, what program stuffs the "system mailbox"? I need 
to then find a DOS port for one of those suckers OR a utility that 
would convert .wrk/.txt files to a single "mailbox".

I suppose that if I could get my mail saved to a "system mailbox" on 
my win95 machine, I could ftp the file to the 3.3R box, do my mail 
there, and ftp in again to grab the file.

I've learned more about Unix mail in the last two days researching 
this issue than in the last year of plinking around with my FBSD box. 
Any help, suggestions, comments would be appreciated. Tia...

-duke
Calgary,Alberta, Canada


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On Tuesday 23 January 2001 09:37 pm, Ian Cartwright wrote:
> Has anyone out there had any luck with the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer
> and FreeBSD? Are there any special settings for using it in either the
> console or X? I recently got one, but it jumps all over the screen. I've
> read man pages for psm and moused and tried a few different tactics to make
> it work with no luck...
>
> Anyone able to make it work? Anyone having the same problem?
>
> Ian
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Hello again! ;-)

I have further info on this. I think I might need some help from a developer 
or two so if anyone sees this who might be interested in helping, let me 
know... 

I have tried the followinf to get this thing to work:

Same mouse on different machine with FreeBSD (works fine!) (IBM PC 350GL)
Same mouse on different machine with Windows98 (works fine!) (clone system w/ 
	Abit KA7 motherboard).
Same mouse on original machine machine as a USB mouse (works fine!) (clone 
	system w/ Asus P2B motherboard)
Same mouse on original system with Windows 98 (works fine!)
Same mouse on original system with fresh install of FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE 
	(doesn't work! same problem of erratic behavior)
Different USB mouse plugged into USB to PS/2 adapter on original system 
	(works fine!) (Logitech Wingman Gaming Mouse)

I think I have tried everything I know how at this point. I have eliminated 
all possible hardware problems (I think) and eliminated any wierd -STABLE or 
compilation problems that might be on my system. I could start enabling 
debugging code for the psm driver, but I'm not sure I would know what to do 
with the debug messages...

Can anyone out there lend a hand?

Ian


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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Randy Primeaux wrote:

> what's the current preference for 4-STABLE ata RAID-1, hardware or software?

Depending on what you want to do and how much money is available you may
want to consider an IDE Raid solution like www.3ware.com. There are
others that work with FreeBSD too, but this is the only one I have worked
with.

I can't comment on performance, because I have nothing to compare the
machine to. I use it mostly as a big storage space and performance is not
much of an issue on the machine where I use it.



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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, mike johnson wrote:
> Any reason why sometimes when i start gqmpeg it just bogs out and dies but
> its still in 'ps x' not as a zombie either. But I can not kill -9(-anything
> else either) it , it just ignores the kill and end up haveing to reboot or
> after a while the system becomes unstable.


Don't have an exact answer, but I do recall in the past discussions about
"unkillable processes". A search in the archives will probably get you
more info. I do recall it had to do with the priority of the process.



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On Wednesday, 24 January 2001 at 12:45:47 -0600, jhunt@blaz.niinet.net wrote:
>
> only information I see is ftp version 6.0.  Anyone know
> exactly what ftp program it uses by default?

The current ftp client was written by Luke Mewburn of the NetBSD
project, and we got it from NetBSD.  You can be very sure that Luke
didn't write it from scratch, and in all probability its code goes
back to the initial BSD IP implementation in the early 80s.

> I would like to install the same type on a linux machine I use at
> work.

The source is in /usr/src/usr.bin/ftp/.

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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 03:42:12PM -0500, Andrew J. Siegel wrote:
> Alright just installed 4.2 w/ sysinstall....added options IPFIREWALL
options
> IPDIVER options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD all to my kernnel config (icebox2)
> config'd and compile....did sysctl -a | grep fw...and fw.enable is set to
> 1....ipfw show issues one allow all for static commands, and something
> unknown for dynamic commands..
>
> try adding ipfw add 500 divert natd all from any to any via rl0
>
> and receive error:
> ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD) INVALID ARGUMENT

This usually indicates that you haven't *installed* a kernel with
IPDIVERT options set. Send the list of your dmesg output.
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:14:53PM -0600, Steve Price wrote:

> seem to remember someone saying that it had to do with
> reverse DNS lookups and waiting for them to timeout, but
> I don't remember the solution.

Fix the reverse DNS records for the client :-)

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Ralph Dratman wrote:
> 
> The name resolution is fast in both directions, whether to or from
> the slow machine. There's no apparent delay.
> 
> Here's another twist to the story: I stopped inetd and started it
> again with -dl (debugging and logging to standard output) flags. Now
> the services are operating without delay!
> 
> C'mon, group, this is a QUESTION...
> 
> (Did activity on this list suddenly go away or is that just my imagination?)
> 
> Ralph
> 

I once had a similar problem, if I remember right it had to do
with the NIC card configuration, a quick and dirty solution was
to start the inetd process from rc.local. then i searched the real
problem and started inetd at the right place.

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 08:56:41PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:14:53PM -0600, Steve Price wrote:
> 
> > seem to remember someone saying that it had to do with
> > reverse DNS lookups and waiting for them to timeout, but
> > I don't remember the solution.
> 
> Fix the reverse DNS records for the client :-)

I don't know if I can.  This is for a friend of mine who has a
hosting company for a little over 600 domains now.  He was previously
using Linux and we just moved all of his stuff over to a handful
of FreeBSD boxes on a much fatter pipe.  A bunch of the customers
are now complaining about the slow connection times with ftp on
the FreeBSD boxes.  Trying to fix the reverse DNS lookups for all
of these clients would be a very daunting task.  I wonder if there
is a way to disable this behavior?  Otherwise I might be stuck
installing ProFTPD on these FreeBSD boxes and calling it a day. :(

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:59:31PM -0600, Steve Price wrote:

> I don't know if I can.  This is for a friend of mine who has a
> hosting company for a little over 600 domains now.  He was previously
> using Linux and we just moved all of his stuff over to a handful
> of FreeBSD boxes on a much fatter pipe.  A bunch of the customers
> are now complaining about the slow connection times with ftp on
> the FreeBSD boxes.  Trying to fix the reverse DNS lookups for all
> of these clients would be a very daunting task.  I wonder if there
> is a way to disable this behavior?  Otherwise I might be stuck
> installing ProFTPD on these FreeBSD boxes and calling it a day. :(

I would have thought that most ftpds do reverse name queries at some
point or other..AFAIK, the only fix is to fix the client, or to
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I had a similar problem, till I replaced the 4.3Gb SCSI disk with a normal
seagate disk.  The drive geometry seems to be the problem.

HP Drive:

bytes/sector: 512    
sectors/track: 2     
tracks/cylinder: 91  
sectors/cylinder: 182
cylinders: 45771     
sectors/unit: 8330502

Seagate Drive:
bytes/sector: 512     
sectors/track: 32     
tracks/cylinder: 64   
sectors/cylinder: 2048
cylinders: 499        
sectors/unit: 1023968

I treid for days to get it working on the HP drive...no luck.  The HP works
fine, as long as you don't try to put your root/boot filesystems on it.

Niekie Myburgh

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Nick Tonkin [SMTP:publicn@rlnt.net]
> Sent:	Wednesday, January 24, 2001 11:30 PM
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> Subject:	Failure to boot after installing 4.2 on HP NetServer
> 
> Hello,
> I just installed FreeBSD 4.2 on an HP NetServer E50 with no problems,
> until rebooting. Even added somne packages, configures some daemons, etc.
> 
> Now the box won't boot.
> 
> Now, the box goes into its POST, going through Adaptec's SCSI-Select
> Utility (v1.31s6) for the Adaptec 2940i and finding two HDDs on SCSI
> IDs 0 and 1, and then through a second SCSI-Select utility (v1.32) for
> the Adaptec 2940U/UW and finding the HP C1533A DAT tape drive
> (supported by FreeBSD according to the docs) on ID 3, and then ...
> nothing.
> 
> Just a single-character flashing cursor.
> 
> It _looks_ like it is not even getting to boot off the hard disk, so I
> can't see how the new FreeBSD OS could directly be screwing it up, but
> I don't know.
> 
> I spent an hour with HP tech support and they verified (?) that the
> SCSI devices are all okay (since they are recognized) but then could
> not help since they only support SCO UNIX.
> 
> Any clues, please?
> 
> 
> 
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I had a similar =
problem, till I replaced the 4.3Gb SCSI disk with a normal seagate =
disk.&nbsp; The drive geometry seems to be the problem.</FONT></P>

<P><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">HP =
Drive:</FONT></B>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">bytes/sector: =
512&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">sectors/track: =
2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">tracks/cylinder: =
91&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">sectors/cylinder: =
182</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">cylinders: =
45771&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">sectors/unit: =
8330502</FONT>
</P>

<P><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Seagate =
Drive:</FONT></B>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">bytes/sector: =
512&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">sectors/track: =
32&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">tracks/cylinder: =
64&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">sectors/cylinder: =
2048</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">cylinders: =
499&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">sectors/unit: =
1023968</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I treid for days to =
get it working on the HP drive...no luck.&nbsp; The HP works fine, as =
long as you don't try to put your root/boot filesystems on =
it.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Niekie =
Myburgh</FONT>
</P>
<UL>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">From:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT =
SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Nick Tonkin [SMTP:publicn@rlnt.net]</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT =
SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Wednesday, January 24, 2001 11:30 PM</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">freebsd-questions@freebsd.org</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT>=
</B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Failure to boot after installing 4.2 =
on HP NetServer</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Hello,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I just installed FreeBSD 4.2 on an HP =
NetServer E50 with no problems,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">until rebooting. Even added somne =
packages, configures some daemons, etc.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Now the box won't boot.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Now, the box goes into its POST, going =
through Adaptec's SCSI-Select</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Utility (v1.31s6) for the Adaptec =
2940i and finding two HDDs on SCSI</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">IDs 0 and 1, and then through a =
second SCSI-Select utility (v1.32) for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">the Adaptec 2940U/UW and finding the =
HP C1533A DAT tape drive</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">(supported by FreeBSD according to =
the docs) on ID 3, and then ...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">nothing.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Just a single-character flashing =
cursor.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">It _looks_ like it is not even getting =
to boot off the hard disk, so I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">can't see how the new FreeBSD OS =
could directly be screwing it up, but</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I don't know.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I spent an hour with HP tech support =
and they verified (?) that the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">SCSI devices are all okay (since they =
are recognized) but then could</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">not help since they only support SCO =
UNIX.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Any clues, please?</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

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On Thursday 25 January 2001 11:48, you wrote:
> Hi -
>
> I accidentally deleted/modified a file 'troff' which is needed for
> man to work while I am doing sysinstall. I am on FreeBSD Release 4.2.
>
> Could anybody tell me how or where to download a single bin file or anyway
> for me to just compile one from its source cose?
>
>
> Ming

1) If you have the FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE CD-ROM, mount it and skip to step 3.

2) Confirm you have the binary distribution for 4.2-RELEASE. If not, create a 
folder named 4.2-RELEASE/bin and download all the files from the following 
URL to that folder:

  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.2-RELEASE/bin

3) Once you have the files, try the following commands:

  $ su

Use "/cdrom" or "4.2-RELEASE/bin" depending on how you retrieved the files:
  # cd /cdrom

  # cat bin/bin.?? | tar -zxvf - -C / usr/bin/troff

This may take a while since tar has to search the combined contents of all 
bin.?? files for this file.



As for compiling from sources, see the following URL for more information:
   http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cutting-edge.html

Also try the following port by Jordan Hubbard:
   net/cvsupit

(be warned, sources can save time at the expense of disk space! ;-)

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william@hq.newdream.net wrote:
> 
> you can't have an MX record pointing to a CNAME

	This is partially correct. You can point an MX record to a CNAME, it won't
be seen as an error to named. However, it is a violation of the protocol,
and mail will fail silently because of the error. 

> you should probably use as few CNAMES as possible.

	This is definitely correct. 
 
> the reason you're getting the second error is simply due to the first

	This is definitely not right. 

> >  test                 IN      CNAME   partha
> >  ;Mail Records
> >                       IN      MX      10  mail.master.com.

	The error is here. The lack of a host on the LHS tells named that the MX
record belongs to test. However, as your DNS logs would have told you if
you had looked at them, a record cannot have a CNAME and other data
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 09:14:16PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:59:31PM -0600, Steve Price wrote:
> 
> I would have thought that most ftpds do reverse name queries at some
> point or other..AFAIK, the only fix is to fix the client, or to
> convince ftpd not to do that. Check the source :-)

I'm working on it.  The only thing I see related to DNS is the
one call to getnameinfo in the pass() function.  You can disable
that by not adding '-DLOGIN_CAP' to CFLAGS.  I've done that and
it still stalls after typing in the password. :(  I'll keep
looking.

BTW, how would I go about fixing the clients?  I try it from my
box at home or one at work that I know does reverse DNS correctly
and I still get the same thing.

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On Thursday, 25 January 2001 at  1:37:37 +0100, Roelof Osinga wrote:
> Mike Meyer wrote:
>> I do know about keystrokes, though. Mine date from Mince on CP/M-80. I
>> even spent one summer hacking up a microemacs so my muscle memory
>> actions (mostly GNUish) did what I expected them to.
>
> Mince I don't know. Though the name sounds kinda familiar. Then again,
> what doesn't.
> ....
> PS like the song, it's all coming back to me now ;). I do - sorta -
> remember mince. At least, if it was an emacs clone for itty-bitty
> microcomputers.

MINCE was short for "MINCE Is Not Complete Emacs".  The first good
editor I used, back in the late 70s.  It came with complete source
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:33:43PM -0600, I wrote:
> 
> BTW, how would I go about fixing the clients?  I try it from my
> box at home or one at work that I know does reverse DNS correctly
> and I still get the same thing.

Urk, I take that back.  I just did it from yet another box at work
and it logged in almost immediately.  This also happens to be the
box hosting DNS for the domain it is in and I setup DNS so I know
reverses work.

What are the implications of disabling the reverse lookups (if
I'm able to find that magic line of code)?  With ftp since I'm
sending data back to the client I shouldn't really be worried
about someone spoofing their IP address, should I?  It seems like
the worst that would happen would be that I know the IP address
that connected to the ftp server but not the machine name
associated with it.  Is that a correct assumption or do I need to
get some rest and re-group?

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:54:54PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Roelof Osinga <roelof@nisser.com> types:
> > Mike Meyer wrote:
> license. But they changed it later. Ditto for Sun and Mips - both
> started on BSD with a SysIII license, then went to SysV.  But The Unix
> market splintering that way was what "the kernel APIs being different"
> was referring to. You couldn't port an application to Unix - you had
> to port it to each variant.

I have some experience of UNIX portations, both retrospectively
and developing software from scratch designed to run on multiple
UNICes. It is not at all easy, no universal compiler options,
higly machine dependent access to shared memory, antique
verions of system programs (HP being the worst culprit in this
regard), no universal debugger (no, not even sdb), ludicrous
differences in shell behaviour (there may be a standard Korn Shell
but I have yet to find it), bugs in NFS inter-operability,
wildly different versions of different programs such as cpio (they
can't all be POSIX compliant and still have such different 
behaviour sir, surely)... the list is very long.

It is no better today. A few days ago I discovered that
on Sun Solaris8 certain benign (if pointless) behaviour with regard to
shared memory attachments is ignored, on HP-UX 11 it generates
a SEGV. Yes, yes, I know shared memory is the *most* system
dependent of the IPC features, but the same API should produce
the same behaviour .. wherever lol. If only...

Even GCC is not quite the panacea it should be...

Cliff

So it goes .. 



 



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1.  Does anyone know how to save the configurations made in "xvidtune",
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:43:03PM -0600, Steve Price wrote:

> about someone spoofing their IP address, should I?  It seems like
> the worst that would happen would be that I know the IP address
> that connected to the ftp server but not the machine name
> associated with it.  Is that a correct assumption or do I need to
> get some rest and re-group?

I think that's right.

Kris

P.S. You're not running out of inetd, are you?

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:07:00PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:43:03PM -0600, Steve Price wrote:
> 
> > about someone spoofing their IP address, should I?  It seems like
> > the worst that would happen would be that I know the IP address
> > that connected to the ftp server but not the machine name
> > associated with it.  Is that a correct assumption or do I need to
> > get some rest and re-group?
> 
> I think that's right.

Cool.

> 
> Kris
> 
> P.S. You're not running out of inetd, are you?

Yes I am.  I can't seem to get ftpd to start as a daemon for
some dang reason. :/

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> Where I can find the stylus 600 printer's driver for win98

A windows 98 support mailing list, perhaps?

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> Yes I am.  I can't seem to get ftpd to start as a daemon for
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> > > P.S. You're not running out of inetd, are you?
> > 
> > Yes I am.  I can't seem to get ftpd to start as a daemon for
> > some dang reason. :/
> 
> Then I bet it's inetd hanging, not ftpd.

Okay, but it seems inetd has already handed of the request to
ftpd since I get the password prompt and then it hangs.  Unless
I inetd is handling the authentication for ftpd then the problem
is most likely with ftpd and not the other way around.  But heh,
I'll be glad to get this resolved so I'll investigate it further
and see what turns up. :)

-steve


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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Steve Price wrote:

> > > > P.S. You're not running out of inetd, are you?
> > > 
> > > Yes I am.  I can't seem to get ftpd to start as a daemon for
> > > some dang reason. :/
> > 
> > Then I bet it's inetd hanging, not ftpd.
> 
> Okay, but it seems inetd has already handed of the request to
> ftpd since I get the password prompt and then it hangs.  Unless
> I inetd is handling the authentication for ftpd then the problem
> is most likely with ftpd and not the other way around.  But heh,
> I'll be glad to get this resolved so I'll investigate it further
> and see what turns up. :)

I thought of this too, but came to the same conclusion.  The hang he is
seeing is seemingly after inetd spawns the ftpd.  I will bet that inetd is
responsible for any rev-DNS that is occuring however, not the ftpd code
itself.

Another solution occurs to me:  grab a more "robust" ftpd such as wu-
where you can EXPLICITLY turn off rev-DNS lookups and where it can run
outside of inetd... or you could also replace inetd with something more
robust ( the DJB tcpserver tools for instance, see:  
http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp.html ) and responsive.  If you are already
digging around in the ftpd source you might as well...

--Steve



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Will star office install in FreeBSD

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:39:54PM -0800, Steve Lewis wrote:

> Another solution occurs to me:  grab a more "robust" ftpd such as wu-
> where you can EXPLICITLY turn off rev-DNS lookups and where it can run

You must be using a different value of "robust" than I am for wu-ftpd
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To whom it may concern, 
My name is Ruben Diaz And I'm here in Los Angeles California. I am having the 
hardest time trying to install the Graphic user interface part of it and I 
just cant seem to do so. This is the first UNIX class I have ever taken and 
my instructor just want us to play around with it and sometimes I just geto 
frustrated with it that It annoys me. I was just wondering if there was any 
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:39:54PM -0800, Steve Lewis wrote:
> 
> Another solution occurs to me:  grab a more "robust" ftpd such as wu-
> where you can EXPLICITLY turn off rev-DNS lookups and where it can run

Today is just not my day.  I tried this just for grins on my
box here at the house and when starting wu-ftpd I get this in
/var/log/messages. :(

Jan 25 00:40:43 bonsai ftpd[1696]: getpeername (/usr/local/libexec/ftpd): Socket operation on non-socket

> outside of inetd... or you could also replace inetd with something more
> robust ( the DJB tcpserver tools for instance, see:  
> http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp.html ) and responsive.  If you are already
> digging around in the ftpd source you might as well...
> 
> --Steve


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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:42:29PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:39:54PM -0800, Steve Lewis wrote:
> 
> > Another solution occurs to me:  grab a more "robust" ftpd such as wu-
> > where you can EXPLICITLY turn off rev-DNS lookups and where it can run
> 
> You must be using a different value of "robust" than I am for wu-ftpd
> to be it..perhaps you like remote root exploits :-)

Now, now... be nice. :)  You are both trying to help and I *very*
much appreciate it.

I'd really rather use the stock ftpd, but I'll entertain any ideas
that helps me get this closer to being resolved.  I really don't
want to have to listen to my friend suggest again that we put the
L-word OS on the ftp server so his clients quit complaining about
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-steve


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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 12:05:00AM -0600, Steve Price wrote:

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> Yes I am.  I can't seem to get ftpd to start as a daemon for
> some dang reason. :/

Did you get that to work? You said you were getting,

  Jan 24 22:11:08 db ftpd[69699]: control socket: Protocol not supported

Errors? ftpd is probably trying to use IPv6 and you don't have it
enabled in the kernel. Use the '-4' option.
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Steve Price wrote:

> I'd really rather use the stock ftpd, but I'll entertain any ideas
> that helps me get this closer to being resolved.  I really don't
> want to have to listen to my friend suggest again that we put the
> L-word OS on the ftp server so his clients quit complaining about
> slow connections.

heh.  if you don't fix the in-addr.arpa's there is little reason to think
L**** will fix the delay, IME.  As a matter of fact, I get that same delay
on a RH box I admin. :)

--Steve



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> Where I can find the stylus 600 printer's driver for win98

Try www.microsoft.com .. errm.. they have a little local difficulty..
try later .. :)

Cliff

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> Hi,
> 
> Recently i setup a transparent proxy server with squid.  That worked just
> fine, used a fwd rule to forward all traffic to localhost, etc.  Now I have
> more of a problem though.
> 
> I have a gateway at 30.30.30.1 and a proxy server at 20.20.20.1.  Both have
> public interfaces and are not connected through any sort of private network.
> What I need to do is to forward all traffic on port 80 of the gateway
> 30.30.30.1 (thus allowing for transparent caching for people behind it) to
> the proxy server 20.20.20.1.
> 
> I made the following rule (where 10.10.0.0/16 is the gateway's:internal
> network)
> /sbin/ipfw add fwd 20.20.20.1 tcp from 10.10.0.0/16 to any 80
> and it doesn't work. packets don't get directed to 20.20.20.1, they just go
> where they are supposed to.  If I run squid locally and forward to
> localhost, it does fine (its just that its a P130 with 800M hdd, kinda
> stupid to run squid on it)
> The kernel is compiled with all necessary options. (since nat works, and
> forwarding to localhost works)
> 
> Also the manual says that if you fwd to an IP that is further than one hop
> away, the routing table will be used to relay the packet. host 20.20.20.1 is
> fully accessible!

And local?

> Can someone tell me what I can do about this, or possibly suggest an
> alternative forwarding solution?

I am not exactly sure how you are planning to do this. It should not
be too hard to do... again, provided the hosts are local which I am
not completely clear on yet.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu


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On 25-Jan-01 Drill Bit1 wrote:
> Will star office install in FreeBSD

Apparently it will. If you update your ports tree it is there.


> If no - what is FreeBSD solution for word processing and spread sheet ?


I use Applixware for that.

(And tend to use lyx (latex) more and more)

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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> > Another solution occurs to me:  grab a more "robust" ftpd such as wu-

> You must be using a different value of "robust" than I am for wu-ftpd
> to be it..perhaps you like remote root exploits :-)

no, the use of quotes should have indicated my tone more clearly.  In this
case the identified daemon is "feature rich" just in case you happen to
not be at the console, forgot the root pass, and need to do some admin
work... but it isn't the only daemon known to have these problems on
ports 20 & 21 ... ;-)

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Hello!!


Anybody has the 1st CD of El torrito of FreeBSD 3.4.-RELEASE? If so, I will
be very thankful if you send me a copy of it.

Regards,

Ana

P.S.: of course, I will pay you the cost of the copy, postage and packing



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Where can I count on with my fresh install of FreeBSD?
While I am very used to the (easy) install of Linux distros I am waiting 
with fear on my Install CDROM-without-any-book

I want to give it a try and afterwards achieve a complete set with books

Thanks a lot for any answer.

Jaap
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When a user already been added and its home dir contains a lot of files.

After a while I'd like to change its login-shell from sh to bash,
What files need to edited.
I've tried passwd and master-passwd, but it dosent change the shell.

//MN

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On Thursday, 25 January 2001 at  9:15:22 +0100, Jaap van Hennik wrote:
> Where can I count on with my fresh install of FreeBSD?

I'm not sure I understand that sentence.

> While I am very used to the (easy) install of Linux distros I am
> waiting with fear on my Install CDROM-without-any-book

Well, you could have bought a book :-)

> I want to give it a try and afterwards achieve a complete set with
> books

That's one way of looking at it.

I don't find installing FreeBSD difficult; I've had more problems with
Linux.  But even without a book, there's still the information on the
CD-ROM.

> The Netherlands (it is raining here, not snowing anymore)

Australia (it is raining here,  the sun isn't shining so hot any
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* Nick Tonkin <publicn@rlnt.net> [20010125 00:30]: writing on the subject 'Failure to boot after installing 4.2 on HP NetServer'
Nick> Hello,
Nick> I just installed FreeBSD 4.2 on an HP NetServer E50 with no problems,
Nick> until rebooting. Even added somne packages, configures some daemons, etc.
Nick> 
Nick> Now the box won't boot.
Nick> 
Nick> Now, the box goes into its POST, going through Adaptec's SCSI-Select
Nick> Utility (v1.31s6) for the Adaptec 2940i and finding two HDDs on SCSI
Nick> IDs 0 and 1, and then through a second SCSI-Select utility (v1.32) for
Nick> the Adaptec 2940U/UW and finding the HP C1533A DAT tape drive
Nick> (supported by FreeBSD according to the docs) on ID 3, and then ...
Nick> nothing.
Nick> 
Nick> Just a single-character flashing cursor.
Nick> 
Nick> It _looks_ like it is not even getting to boot off the hard disk, so I
Nick> can't see how the new FreeBSD OS could directly be screwing it up, but
Nick> I don't know.
Nick> 
Nick> I spent an hour with HP tech support and they verified (?) that the
Nick> SCSI devices are all okay (since they are recognized) but then could
Nick> not help since they only support SCO UNIX.
Nick> 
Nick> Any clues, please?

Hi Nick,
This is a wild guess though....
If you try removing the second SCSI adapter (or is it onboard?) what happens?
I'm assuming that your root fs is on the first. 
As wild as it is, I was running FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE on an HP Netserver E60 quite
comfortably until I decided to update to 4.2-STABLE and things got bad - I cannot access
my T20 tape anymore. I did seek help from this list and there are some very wonderful
people who tried to assist me but still it did not work. That is a tape i backed up with
2 days before updating to 4.2-STABLE!!! So I blame 4.2 and not the tape. I am now contending
with doing a backup on another E60 that is running 4.0-RELEASE which apparently is okay...
What were you running before 4.2??


-Wash

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> Where can I count on with my fresh install of FreeBSD?
> While I am very used to the (easy) install of Linux distros I am waiting 
> with fear on my Install CDROM-without-any-book
> 
> I want to give it a try and afterwards achieve a complete set with books
> 
> Thanks a lot for any answer.
> 
> Jaap
> The Netherlands (it is raining here, not snowing anymore)
> 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook
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oh... the manpages too  :)
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When a user already been added and its home dir contains a lot of files.

After a while I'd like to change its login-shell from sh to bash,
What files need to edited.
I've tried passwd and master-passwd, but it dosent change the shell.
I'm using FreeBSD 3.4

//MN

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When a user already been added and its home dir contains a lot of files.

After a while I'd like to change its login-shell from sh to bash,
What files need to edited.
I've tried passwd and master-passwd, but it don't seem work change the
shell.

//MN
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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:49:20AM +0100, markus niskanen wrote:
> After a while I'd like to change its login-shell from sh to bash,
> What files need to edited.
> I've tried passwd and master-passwd, but it dosent change the shell.

did you use vipw(8) ?

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Well how I do it is to first install bash from sysinstall, then run "vipw"
to edit
the password file ..... thats always worked for me. The only "peculiarity"
I'm aware of is that I change the default editor from vi to ee


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> When a user already been added and its home dir contains a lot of files.
>
> After a while I'd like to change its login-shell from sh to bash,
> What files need to edited.
> I've tried passwd and master-passwd, but it dosent change the shell.
> I'm using FreeBSD 3.4
>
> //MN
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When a user already been added and its home dir contains a lot of files.

After a while I'd like to change its login-shell from sh to bash,
What files need to edited.
I've tried passwd and master-passwd, but it dosent change the shell.

//MN

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chsh(1)

Cliff

> When a user already been added and its home dir contains a lot of files.
> 
> After a while I'd like to change its login-shell from sh to bash,
> What files need to edited.




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As I just posted, the way to do this is with chsh(1)

Cliff

> Well how I do it is to first install bash from sysinstall, then run
"vipw> "
> to edit
> the password file ..... thats always worked for me. The only
"peculiarity> "
> I'm aware of is that I change the default editor from vi to ee
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> 
> 
> > When a user already been added and its home dir contains a lot of files.
> >
> > After a while I'd like to change its login-shell from sh to bash,
> > What files need to edited.
> > I've tried passwd and master-passwd, but it dosent change the shell.
> > I'm using FreeBSD 3.4
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> When a user already been added and its home dir contains a lot of files.
> 
> After a while I'd like to change its login-shell from sh to bash,
> What files need to edited.
> I've tried passwd and master-passwd, but it dosent change the shell.
> I'm using FreeBSD 3.4
> 
> //MN
> 

chsh -s /where/is/the/actual/bash username
(must be valid , take a look at your /etc/shells)
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yo uso como sistemas el ordenador:
                                        Hard Disk 1:  hda1   Windows
Millenium
                                                               hda2
SWAP per Linux
                                  hdb1 :   hdb5  :  /             root
de linux
                                               hdb6  :  /home
LINUX
                                                hdb7 :  /usr/local
LINUX


hdb2          BeOS  5

hdb3          espacio para FreeBSD

 pregunto: ya que MILLENIUM me inmpide de UTILIZAR cualquier
BOOT MANAGER porqu no permite la escritura sobre el MBR de hda1 yo BeOS
y LINUX lo hago partir con sus respectivos Floppy de BOOT con FreeBSD
como se haria


Gracias

MENDEZ Guido Jose Angel



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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Greg Mowry wrote:

> What does BSD stand for?
> 

I have always liked the 'Big Scary Daemons' acronym. :)


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Dear Sir / Madam,

I want to develop a personal web server using pentium
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Could you send me minimum requirement to develop such
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> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Greg Mowry wrote:
> 
> > What does BSD stand for?
> > 
> 
> I have always liked the 'Big Scary Daemons' acronym. :)

Berkeley Software Distribution

Cliff

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, markus niskanen wrote:

> When a user already been added and its home dir contains a lot of files.
>
> After a while I'd like to change its login-shell from sh to bash,
> What files need to edited.
> I've tried passwd and master-passwd, but it dosent change the shell.

Just editing those files doesn't help since the system uses binary files
/etc/pwd.db and /etc/spwd.db wich have to be rebuild with
/usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb after any change in the master password file
/etc/master.passwd. All this is done automatically when editing the master
password file with /usr/sbin/vipw. If you don't like vi, you may assign
the name of your favourite editor to the environment variable EDITOR to
make this editor used, e.g.:

setenv EDITOR emacs

Regards

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Hi

I've become aware that the 3Com ADSL Dual Link Modem uses a proprietary
pppoe discovery and session packet with the value 0x3c12 and 0x3c13 
respectively.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,367540;root=equip,16;mode=flat

What are the likely consequences of modifying the netgraph 
ng_pppoe.h to reflect these values apart from having it then speak 
3Com's flavour as a server as well?

My feeling was that it would work but I've got to find the modem to 
try.  I see that the rp-pppoe from roaring penguin will take the values
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Roelof Osinga wrote:

> seek3r2k wrote:
> > 
> > I have aliased my single NIC with the IP address 192.168.1.1/24, so that
> > i can port out a cable modem connection to my win machine, thus two
> > machines on a subnet.  This is what my rc.conf looks like
> > host="host name"
> > IPFILTER="YES"
> > IPNAT="YES
> > gateway_enable="YES"
> > ifconfig fxp0="DHCP"
> > ifconfig fxp0 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias
> > ...
> > gateway address (192.168.1.10) and the external IP address from the
> > windows machine, but i can ping anything outside the network.  what am I
> > doing wrong?  I compiled the kernel with IPFILTER on.
> 
> If they're all on the same subnet using a 0xFFFFFFFF mask ought
> to do the trick.
> 
> PS you might want to make your rc.conf more like:
> ifconfig_xl0="inet 212.104.206.221 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> ifconfig_xl0_alias0="inet 212.104.206.222 netmask 255.255.255.255"
> ifconfig_xl0_alias1="inet 212.104.206.223 netmask 255.255.255.255"
> ifconfig_xl0_alias2="inet 212.104.206.224 netmask 255.255.255.255"
>  ...
> 

I added these lines for my ep0 and IP's but after a reboot FTPD
and Apache stopped working. I could still connect to port 21 but
after a while it timed out and Apache didn't start anymore ? I 
removed the lines I added and rebooted: everything worked again ?
What are the consequences of adding an ifconfig_ep0_alias0 to rc.conf ?

With regards,
Bart Pustjens




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I have just installed FreeBSD 4.2 on a laptop.

When I had version 3.2-RELEASE on this PC, X worked fine.
I wiped the instalation and started over with the FreeBSD 4.2
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Hi

I tried to mount a floppy using the following command:

mount /dev/fd0 /floppy

It gave the following message:

Jan 25 17:00:00 pcs130 /kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0
70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
Jan 25 17:00:00 pcs130 /kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0
70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0

mount: Input/output error
Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 last message repeated 3 times
Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 16 of 16-31
(No status)
Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 last message repeated 3 times
Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 16 of 16-31
(No status)

I am able to use the floppy on linux using the mtools package.

I am using FreeBSD 4.0. Could you tell what I am doing wrong?

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Hi

> Is this an MSDOS-formatted floppy?  If so either try:
>
> # mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy

The floppy has been formatted on linux using the command:

mformat a:

So it is a MSDOS-formatted floppy.

On the FreeBSD machine,

# mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy

gives the output:

Jan 25 17:00:00 pcs130 /kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0
70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
Jan 25 17:00:00 pcs130 /kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0
70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0

mount: /dev/fd0: Input/output error
Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 last message repeated 3 times
Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 of
0-3 (No status)
Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 last message repeated 3 times
Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 of 0-3
(No status)


> or use mtools just like you did on linux.  It's in the ports :)

We are using a standalone FreeBSD 4.0 machine. But, mtools source
files need to be downloaded.

Thanks
Satya

>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 05:12:12PM +0530, Satyajeet Seth wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I tried to mount a floppy using the following command:
> >
> > mount /dev/fd0 /floppy
> >
> > It gave the following message:
> >
> > Jan 25 17:00:00 pcs130 /kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0
> > 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
> > Jan 25 17:00:00 pcs130 /kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0
> > 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
> >
> > mount: Input/output error
> > Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 last message repeated 3 times
> > Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 16 of 16-31
> > (No status)
> > Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 last message repeated 3 times
> > Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 16 of 16-31
> > (No status)
> >
> > I am able to use the floppy on linux using the mtools package.
> >
> > I am using FreeBSD 4.0. Could you tell what I am doing wrong?
> >
> > -Satya
> >
> >
> >
> >
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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 05:55:09PM +0530, Satyajeet Seth wrote:
> Hi
> 
> > Is this an MSDOS-formatted floppy?  If so either try:
> >
> > # mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy
> 
> The floppy has been formatted on linux using the command:
> 
> mformat a:
> 
> So it is a MSDOS-formatted floppy.
> 
> On the FreeBSD machine,
> 
> # mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy
> 
> gives the output:
> 
> Jan 25 17:00:00 pcs130 /kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0
> 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
> Jan 25 17:00:00 pcs130 /kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0
> 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
> 
> mount: /dev/fd0: Input/output error
> Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 last message repeated 3 times
> Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 of
> 0-3 (No status)
> Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 last message repeated 3 times
> Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 of 0-3
> (No status)

Hmmm, I would tend to think that this is just a bad drive, or at lease
out of cal relative to the one on the Linux box, but I'm no expert on
floppy hardware expert :)

> > or use mtools just like you did on linux.  It's in the ports :)
> 
> We are using a standalone FreeBSD 4.0 machine. But, mtools source
> files need to be downloaded.

No, if you have the CD, just install the package.


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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 07:32:21AM -0500, Donald J . Maddox wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 05:55:09PM +0530, Satyajeet Seth wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > > Is this an MSDOS-formatted floppy?  If so either try:
> > >
> > > # mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy
> > 
> > The floppy has been formatted on linux using the command:
> > 
> > mformat a:
> > 
> > So it is a MSDOS-formatted floppy.
> > 
> > On the FreeBSD machine,
> > 
> > # mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy
> > 
> > gives the output:
> > 
> > Jan 25 17:00:00 pcs130 /kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0
> > 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
> > Jan 25 17:00:00 pcs130 /kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0
> > 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
> > 
> > mount: /dev/fd0: Input/output error
> > Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 last message repeated 3 times
> > Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 of
> > 0-3 (No status)
> > Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 last message repeated 3 times
> > Jan 25 17:00:01 pcs130 /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 of 0-3
> > (No status)
> 
> Hmmm, I would tend to think that this is just a bad drive, or at lease
> out of cal relative to the one on the Linux box, but I'm no expert on
> floppy hardware expert :)

Wow, too early in the morning here, I guess :)  That should read:

Hmmm, I would tend to think that this is just a bad drive, or at least
out of cal relative to the one on the Linux box, but I'm really not a
floppy hardware expert by any means :)

> 
> > > or use mtools just like you did on linux.  It's in the ports :)
> > 
> > We are using a standalone FreeBSD 4.0 machine. But, mtools source
> > files need to be downloaded.
> 
> No, if you have the CD, just install the package.
> 
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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:43:22AM -0500, Diaz232002@aol.com wrote:
> To whom it may concern, 
> My name is Ruben Diaz And I'm here in Los Angeles California. I am having the 
> hardest time trying to install the Graphic user interface part of it and I 
> just cant seem to do so. This is the first UNIX class I have ever taken and 
> my instructor just want us to play around with it and sometimes I just geto 
> frustrated with it that It annoys me. I was just wondering if there was any 
> information that you can give me to help me out please.
> 
> 

If you already have FBSD installed, you can login as root and type
/stand/sysinstall at your prompt to try and configure XFree86.  You
will need to know details about your monitor (horizontal/vertical
refresh rates) and your video card (type, chipset, memory).  Once
you're running sysinstall, make the following menu selections,
Configure -> XFree86 -> XF86Setup -> enable mouse daemon ->
switch to graphics mode.  NOTE: This is how it works with my
4.2-stable install.

You should now be in XFree86 configure tool (for XF86 3.3.6 not 4.0).
Use the tabs along the top of the screen to set your mouse, keyboard,
monitor and video card.  At the very least, you should be able to
select a generic VGA monitor and card and get a 640x480 screen to
work.  After making the appropriate selections, you should be able to
test each configuration before commiting to the changes.

Assuming you get that part working, you can then select your desired
window manager.  If you're new to UNIX you might want to try KDE since
IMHO it's pretty close to Windoze GUI.  You'll be prompted to select
your source media (either CDROM or FTP would be your best bet).
Once installed, you can quit sysintall and go back to your root shell
prompt and type 'startx'.

There's a lot of room for error getting X to work but this should get
you and your class started down the right path...

-- 
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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:15:22AM +0100, Jaap van Hennik wrote:
> Where can I count on with my fresh install of FreeBSD?
> While I am very used to the (easy) install of Linux distros I am waiting 
> with fear on my Install CDROM-without-any-book
> 
> I want to give it a try and afterwards achieve a complete set with books
> 
> Thanks a lot for any answer.
> 
> Jaap
> The Netherlands (it is raining here, not snowing anymore)

I'm a recent convert from Linux too.  The approach I took was to
install FreeBSD within VMWare (http://www.vmware.com) so I could get
used to the new install and take it for a test drive before commiting
a machine to it.  FYI, I have since dumped Linux on my gateway box and
am using FreeBSD 4.2-stable with ipfw/natd and LOVE IT!

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:24:47AM -0800, Ali Vercan wrote:
> Dear Sir / Madam,
> 
> I want to develop a personal web server using pentium
> II. 
> 
> Could you send me minimum requirement to develop such
> a server or links which will help me.
> 
> Thanks to you,

It depends a great deal on how many visitors you expect.  If
you're planning on running the next Yahoo!, you'd need a lot more
than a PII.  If you're just going to use it for personal growth,
I'm sure you're current system is sufficient.

Start with http://www.apache.org/httpd.html and the links from
there to learn more.

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 04:15:58PM +0530, N.Kumaraguru wrote:
> Sir,
> I am new to Linux6.2.In Linux What should i do to set the number of
> pixels in the desktop.Expecting your reply.
> I am very much thankful to you if you answer the question.
> Thanking  you,
> Kumaraguru.N
> 

Wrong list.  Linux is a different *NIX than FreeBSD, but both typically
use XFree86.  You can start by visiting http://www.xfree86.org for
more info.

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Hi,

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 09:57:16PM -0800, Mike Batchelor wrote:
> 1.  Does anyone know how to save the configurations made in "xvidtune",
>  without going through XF86Setup?

Hmm, I wouldn't even know how to do it with XF86Setup, but if you click
the show button in xvidtune it will display a line that looks a bit like

"1280x1024"   108.00   1280 1332 1444 1688   1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync

With XFree86-4.0.x you need to add this to your XF86Config, in the
Monitor section, a bit like this:

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier "Dell 1028L"
        HorizSync   30-69
        VertRefresh 48-120
	ModeLine "1280x1024" 108.00 1280 1332 1444 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
EndSection

I wouldn't know how to do this with XFree86 3, it's been a while since I've
done that, but I'm sure it will be something similar to that.

Now restart X and your settings should work.

> 2.  Has anyone ever had a problem with the default mouse daemon installed
>  with FreeBSD 4.2 (or others for that matter)?  With three-button emulation,

Sorry, I have a three button mouse, so I wouldn't know about that. Over here
those mice are dirt cheap, I'd go out and buy a 3-button one if I were you.

HTH,

--Stijn

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 07:35:34PM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
> Howdy....

Hi

[snip]

> On a Unix system, fetchmail is probably the beast responsible for 
> stuffing the "system mailbox" with POP3 stuff. With a permanent 
> Internet connection, what program stuffs the "system mailbox"? I need 
> to then find a DOS port for one of those suckers OR a utility that 
> would convert .wrk/.txt files to a single "mailbox".

I'm not quite sure I follow, but I think what you want is an MTA
like sendmail, exim, or qmail to name a few.  These mail daemons sit
on your machine's port 25 and accept incoming mail destined for a 
user on the local machine.  The MTA usually puts incoming mail in
/var/mail/<username> or /var/spool/mail/<username>.  Your MUA (pine?)
reads from this append-only "system mailbox".

Hope that helps.

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Hello,

I was reading through various PPP configuration tutorials and was wondering 
if I could use my 3COM/USR 5610A PCI modem. I see that you have to 
explicitly set COM ports in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. What do I set for 'set 
device' on a PCI modem with no COM/IRQ jumpers? Does FreeBSD automatically 
allocate an open COM port for PCI modems w/o COM/IRQ jumpers? Is there a 
command that I could run to find out which COM port the device is set as? I 
took a look at the output of dmesg, to no avail.

Also, is it possible to dial out of my Win2K Pro box, executing the ppp 
daemon FreeBSD automatically (on-demand)? Give the Win2K box a gateway that 
corresponds to the FreeBSD box? Then how would DUN execute the ppp daemon?

Another question: If I installed IPFilter on one box and an IDS on another, 
would I have to install NFS in order for the boxes to see each other? I 
would presume that file sharing would not be necessary at such a low-level, 
packet filtering layer. Yes, I am a UNIX newbie!

If I wanted to manage the firewall and IDS logs on a separate box, would I 
configure the IDS to push or the management box to pull the log 
information? What about the installation of NFS in such a case?

OK, just a few more questions: I usually remove certain /system32 files 
such as 'at' and burn them on a CDR to be used as needed. Can I accomplish 
the same feat in FreeBSD? For example, removing crontab from /usr/bin and 
it's source to CDR to be used as needed?

Does FreeBSD have a /usr/xpg4 equivalent?

There was also an article on SecurityFocus that mentioned something about 
cutting the transmit link (cable) for the IDS > IDS management box.
Can someone direct me to some more information regarding this? Thank you in 
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:13:21AM -0500, rmichalski@enwin.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for answering so quickly.  I tried what you said and the file system
> is being mounted, but when I try to use ed to edit the /etc/passwd file I
> get a 'read-only file system' error for  '/tmp/ed.a989d'  <-- something
> similar to that.  It looks like its just trying to create a temporary file
> but it's not allowed to.  I can't use vi, it says it can't find it.  Have
> you run into something like this before?
> 
> 
Why don't you use vipw. This program is especially dedicated for editing
/etc/master.passwd . Just type vipw as root. You cannot edit /etc/passwd
as a normal user, have a look at the rights:
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  35800 Jan 25 09:03 passwd

And one more thing, any changes made to /etc/passwd don't take effect.
Hope this will help.
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Hello,

I want to use ftp client and ftp server behind a firewall.

I tried to open ports 20 and 21 but, couldn't manage to use it. People can
connect, give their passwords, but when they try to ls or get some file or
something that my machine should send data to them it hangs there.

Which ports should be opened for proper ftp usage? 

I'm using ipfw, system is FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE. Internet NIC is called fxp1 on
my machine. Also there is fxp0 for my LAN. ftp server is FreeBSD ftp server.

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If the users enable passive transfers on their client
the problem should be solved.

PeTe

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 2:53 PM
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> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I want to use ftp client and ftp server behind a firewall.
> 
> I tried to open ports 20 and 21 but, couldn't manage to use 
> it. People can
> connect, give their passwords, but when they try to ls or get 
> some file or
> something that my machine should send data to them it hangs there.
> 
> Which ports should be opened for proper ftp usage? 
> 
> I'm using ipfw, system is FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE. Internet NIC is 
> called fxp1 on
> my machine. Also there is fxp0 for my LAN. ftp server is 
> FreeBSD ftp server.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
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> ertank@ozlerplastik.com
> 
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I have a questions, I'll like to have to be able to direct port 80 to multiple internal servers that will be accessed on the internet.  These servers will not be doing load balancing.  So I'll have http://server1.com port 80 being nated to an internal address and http://server2.com port 80 being nated to a internal address as well.  The internal address can be the same or different. I'm using 192.168.xxx.xxx/24. Any ideas?  CAn this be done?

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It can be done.

Playing with the idea I found a doable solution.
That is to use multiple ip adresses on the internet adapter.
Registrer the DNS record server1.com and server2.com to point
one of the aliased ip adresses.  Then use ipnat/ipf to divert
the request through the firewall.
Can be accomlished with only two ipadresses as long as the box
it self are NOT running a webserver on port 80.

Ex.

Box has 140.0.0.1 and 140.0.0.2 aliased on the internet.
Server1.com has dns record point to 140.0.0.1
Server2.com has dns record point to 140.0.0.2

Punch the appropriate holes in ipf/ipfw and ipnat
and it should fire up.

Probably an easiest/best way to do it, but this is the
best answer I can give.

PeTe

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> nated to an internal address and http://server2.com port 80 
> being nated to a internal address as well.  The internal 
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Any of you people with a dual personality (FBSD and Linux) know
of a functional equivalent to netcat on Linux ?

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I've been installing FreeBSD 4.2 for the first time and I can't get
Apache and
Lynx to show up in the Installation sets or the packages to install
them.  Are
they only available as part of the ports collection?

I am installing a non-X system, but when I use Packages and choose the
"www"
group, there are no entries for "*apache*", "*lynx*", and other packages
I would
expect to find there.  I am installing via NFS from a CD-ROM on another
local
Linux box.  Even when I view "all" packages, lynx and apache are not in
there.

I see these in the ports directory, however, when I can /usr/ports/www.
Does
the INDEX have missing package data for sysinstall, perhaps?

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for
FreeBSD?  Running emacs yields a [Shared object "libXaw.so.6" not found]

error, and so I may need to install some X-Windows files to make this
work,
perhaps?

Thank you!

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:15:22AM +0100, Jaap van Hennik wrote:
> Where can I count on with my fresh install of FreeBSD?
> While I am very used to the (easy) install of Linux distros I am waiting 
> with fear on my Install CDROM-without-any-book
>
Well, the FreeBSD installer installs the base system for you, but you have to 
check add-on software, like Netscape, LaTeX etc., otherwise you'll get the
base system only :-). Anyway you can install so called packages easily at
any time using /stand/sysinstall and going to 'post-install configuration...'
and then 'Install pre-packaged software...'. I think that nowadays there are 
options to install complete KDE stuff and such (long time ago that I installed 
from scratch...). 

> I want to give it a try and afterwards achieve a complete set with books
> 
> Thanks a lot for any answer.
> 
> Jaap
> The Netherlands (it is raining here, not snowing anymore)
>
Yes I know... stupid rain... you might be interested in http://www.nlfug.nl ,
the site of the Dutch FreeBSD users group...

Anyway, good luck with the install!

Karel.
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I really don't like Netscape (too slow, crashes
too oftem) and while I use lynx I do admit that
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So what do you recommend?

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 02:47:24PM +0000, Cliff Sarginson wrote:

> Any of you people with a dual personality (FBSD and Linux) know
> of a functional equivalent to netcat on Linux ?

Well, netcat. The functionality should not only be equivalent
but completely identical.

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Here goes:

Have you tried to cvsup of the ports collection?
Then the hole tree is updated and also you will get
the latest revision of the ports coll.

do a make install on /usr/ports/net/cvsup-bin
DO NOT install /usr/ports/net/cvsup since it
depends on X and will take years to install.

Anyways,
login as root, or use su and create say a file called
ports.cvsup and enter the following text.

*default host=cvsup.freebsd.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_2_0_RELEASE
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
ports-all release=cvs tag=.

As root run, "cvsup <path to file>\ports.cvsup

The ports tree should be updated, and apache will
show up.

PeTe


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon W. Backstrom [mailto:jbackst@im.meredith.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 3:48 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Apache not in the 4.2 distribution sets?
> 
> 
> I've been installing FreeBSD 4.2 for the first time and I can't get
> Apache and
> Lynx to show up in the Installation sets or the packages to install
> them.  Are
> they only available as part of the ports collection?
> 
> I am installing a non-X system, but when I use Packages and choose the
> "www"
> group, there are no entries for "*apache*", "*lynx*", and 
> other packages
> I would
> expect to find there.  I am installing via NFS from a CD-ROM 
> on another
> local
> Linux box.  Even when I view "all" packages, lynx and apache 
> are not in
> there.
> 
> I see these in the ports directory, however, when I can 
> /usr/ports/www.
> Does
> the INDEX have missing package data for sysinstall, perhaps?
> 
> Also, is there a command-line only version of emacs that has 
> been built
> for
> FreeBSD?  Running emacs yields a [Shared object "libXaw.so.6" 
> not found]
> 
> error, and so I may need to install some X-Windows files to make this
> work,
> perhaps?
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Jon Backstrom
> viking@iowa.net
> jbackst@im.meredith.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 02:47:24PM +0000, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> 
> > Any of you people with a dual personality (FBSD and Linux) know
> > of a functional equivalent to netcat on Linux ?
> 
> Well, netcat. The functionality should not only be equivalent
> but completely identical.

Ok thanks. I couldnt find it, and the program "nc" is something
completely different on Linux ..
I will look again...

Cliff




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Karel J. Bosschaart wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:15:22AM +0100, Jaap van Hennik wrote:
> 
>> Where can I count on with my fresh install of FreeBSD?
>> While I am very used to the (easy) install of Linux distros I am waiting 
>> with fear on my Install CDROM-without-any-book
>> 
> 
> Well, the FreeBSD installer installs the base system for you, but you have to 
> check add-on software, like Netscape, LaTeX etc., otherwise you'll get the
> base system only :-). Anyway you can install so called packages easily at
> any time using /stand/sysinstall and going to 'post-install configuration...'
> and then 'Install pre-packaged software...'. I think that nowadays there are 
> options to install complete KDE stuff and such (long time ago that I installed 
> from scratch...). 
> 
> 
>> I want to give it a try and afterwards achieve a complete set with books
>> 
>> Thanks a lot for any answer.
>> 
>> Jaap
>> The Netherlands (it is raining here, not snowing anymore)
>> 
> 
> Yes I know... stupid rain... you might be interested in http://www.nlfug.nl ,
> the site of the Dutch FreeBSD users group...
> 
> Anyway, good luck with the install!
> 
> Karel.
> (Also from the Netherlands)

I received FreeBSD at noon, got it installed at 1 PM!!
Now I have troubles with the X-Configuration
Having a ATI Rage 128 videocard with 32 Megabyte I do not know how to 
install that X-Configuration for my KDE

Thanks for any answer

*jaap van hennik*
*the netherlands* there is some sun shining over here, the snow is gone



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It's not installed by default, but it's in the Ports Collection at
/usr/ports/net/netcat.

Ken

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Cliff Sarginson wrote:

> > On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 02:47:24PM +0000, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> > 
> > > Any of you people with a dual personality (FBSD and Linux) know
> > > of a functional equivalent to netcat on Linux ?
> > 
> > Well, netcat. The functionality should not only be equivalent
> > but completely identical.
> 
> Ok thanks. I couldnt find it, and the program "nc" is something
> completely different on Linux ..
> I will look again...
> 
> Cliff
> 
> 
> 
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Hello,
It sounds kind of off topic, and not FreeBSD related. But
I was going to mail it to Linux mailing list, but I don't want to offend
them by my question :)

Is it true that "LINUX" stands for Linux Is Not UniX (LINUX)

Guys, no intend to start flame war, I use everything FreeBSD, OpenBSD,
NetBSD, Lunux...
 I just need to know this is it true or not.
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The box was running Windoze NT. I am switching it to UNIX to install a
custom database application I wrote; I'm not a sysadmin! I've used FreeBSD
myself since 2.2, but I can't be bothered with this. I've just tried
RedHat Linux 7 an the installation went apparently flawlessly. Oh, well...

Thanks,


~~~~~~~~~~~
Nick Tonkin

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Odhiambo Washington wrote:

> * Nick Tonkin <publicn@rlnt.net> [20010125 00:30]: writing on the subject 'Failure to boot after installing 4.2 on HP NetServer'
> Nick> Hello,
> Nick> I just installed FreeBSD 4.2 on an HP NetServer E50 with no problems,
> Nick> until rebooting. Even added somne packages, configures some daemons, etc.
> Nick> 
> Nick> Now the box won't boot.
> Nick> 
> Nick> Now, the box goes into its POST, going through Adaptec's SCSI-Select
> Nick> Utility (v1.31s6) for the Adaptec 2940i and finding two HDDs on SCSI
> Nick> IDs 0 and 1, and then through a second SCSI-Select utility (v1.32) for
> Nick> the Adaptec 2940U/UW and finding the HP C1533A DAT tape drive
> Nick> (supported by FreeBSD according to the docs) on ID 3, and then ...
> Nick> nothing.
> Nick> 
> Nick> Just a single-character flashing cursor.
> Nick> 
> Nick> It _looks_ like it is not even getting to boot off the hard disk, so I
> Nick> can't see how the new FreeBSD OS could directly be screwing it up, but
> Nick> I don't know.
> Nick> 
> Nick> I spent an hour with HP tech support and they verified (?) that the
> Nick> SCSI devices are all okay (since they are recognized) but then could
> Nick> not help since they only support SCO UNIX.
> Nick> 
> Nick> Any clues, please?
> 
> Hi Nick,
> This is a wild guess though....
> If you try removing the second SCSI adapter (or is it onboard?) what happens?
> I'm assuming that your root fs is on the first. 
> As wild as it is, I was running FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE on an HP Netserver E60 quite
> comfortably until I decided to update to 4.2-STABLE and things got bad - I cannot access
> my T20 tape anymore. I did seek help from this list and there are some very wonderful
> people who tried to assist me but still it did not work. That is a tape i backed up with
> 2 days before updating to 4.2-STABLE!!! So I blame 4.2 and not the tape. I am now contending
> with doing a backup on another E60 that is running 4.0-RELEASE which apparently is okay...
> What were you running before 4.2??
> 
> 
> -Wash
> 
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Per Tore Larsen wrote:
> 
> If the users enable passive transfers on their client
> the problem should be solved.
> 
> PeTe
> 

Hanging is the problem while enabled passive mode or disabled passive mode.
They can not transfer anything in both situations.

--Ertan

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ertan Kucukoglu [mailto:ertank@ozlerplastik.com]
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> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I want to use ftp client and ftp server behind a firewall.
> >
> > I tried to open ports 20 and 21 but, couldn't manage to use
> > it. People can
> > connect, give their passwords, but when they try to ls or get
> > some file or
> > something that my machine should send data to them it hangs there.
> >
> > Which ports should be opened for proper ftp usage?
> >
> > I'm using ipfw, system is FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE. Internet NIC is
> > called fxp1 on
> > my machine. Also there is fxp0 for my LAN. ftp server is
> > FreeBSD ftp server.
> >
> > Regards,
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> I really don't like Netscape (too slow, crashes
> too oftem) and while I use lynx I do admit that
> I like a graphical browser.
> 
> So what do you recommend?
> 
> Dana
> 
> 
> 
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Ariff Abdullah wrote:
> 
> > I really don't like Netscape (too slow, crashes
> > too oftem) and while I use lynx I do admit that
> > I like a graphical browser.
> >
> > So what do you recommend?
> >
> > Dana
> >
> >
> >
> mozilla

Yeah, that will appease his slow and buggy complaints...

Mozilla really isn't too bad, but it is still beta and saddled with the
slowest interface ever.  If you want the nice rendering engine and
a fairly snappy interface, look at galeon in the ports.  It's a GTK
based interface with the Mozilla (Gecko) rendering engine.


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Kris,

As you suggested, I did a query from the console of the slow server 
for resolution of the address of the client machine which was 
requesting services. Well, as it happens, the client machine I've 
been testing with does not have a DNS name, so I just put in
 
  >host 192.0.0.27

which happens to be the behind-the-firewall fake IP address of the 
requestor. And I got back "Host not found" with no delay. However, 
I've also experienced this delay from another machine, off-site, 
which DOES have a DNS name. I put in that name and after about a 5 
second delay got back a numeric IP from the reverse lookup. If I put 
in the name, I get the IP. Again, without much delay. As I mentioned, 
the name daemon is running on the server that shows the slowdown. But 
DNS queries are not slow... of course they don't go through inetd, 
either.

I don't see why this problem should be related to DNS. Note also (as 
described below) that the delay goes away when I run inetd with 
logging and debugging flags.

Ralph

====================
>DNS resolution is of the IP address you are coming _from_..try doing
>DNS queries for that IP address.
>
>Kris
=======================

>Y'all,
>
>(AGAIN...)
>
>The name resolution is fast in both directions, whether to or from 
>the slow machine. There's no apparent delay.
>
>Here's another twist to the story: I stopped inetd and started it 
>again with -dl (debugging and logging to standard output) flags. Now 
>the services are operating without delay!
>
>C'mon, group, this is a QUESTION...
>
>(Did activity on this list suddenly go away or is that just my 
>imagination? I just joined the list, then received about 75 posts 
>from Tuesday and only ONE, so far, from Wednesday, and it's almost 
>the end of the day.)
>
>Ralph Dratman
>
>P.S. OOPS! I just re-read my original post and here's a correction: 
>I'm running FreeBSD 3.3, not 2.2 as I incorrectly stated in that 
>message.
>
>==============
>>Sounds like DNS problems. What happens if you execute the following on
>>the slow machine,
>>
>>  % host <hostname or IP>
>>
>>Where the IP address or hostname is that of a machine that you connect
>>from.
>
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Greg? Greg Lehey ?

Aha, the writer of that book! Now's my chance to really get 'im!

EXCELLENT book! The best I've ever read by, for and about Eunuchs! 
(to paraphrase Dilbert's boss)

Seriously, I don't see why anyone would complain about your book. 
They should thank you. It is just a wonderful compendium of basically 
everything I need to know about, you know, eunuchs.

(Even though I too encountered the /var problem... very small 
potatoes in my opinion... I reinstalled and made a 40M /var 
filesystem and okay, maybe it will get full at some point, but I'm a 
big boy and will go become creative with links or something at that 
time.)

I don't ask for FLAWLESS books, just good ones, and yours is well beyond that.

(By comparison, recently I spent $35 on an O'Reilly book about 
Javascript and almost NONE of the scripts I downloaded from their 
site worked properly! I am a bit irritated about that one...)

But yours is golden. I now have a working web server with several 
virtual domains, DNS, mail and FTP servers, all working very nicely, 
with far less investment of time and mental anguish than I ever 
expected.

Thank you and best regards,

Ralph Dratman


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> Is it true that "LINUX" stands for Linux Is Not UniX (LINUX)
>

No its not. Linus named it after himself.

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Micke Josefsson <mj@isy.liu.se> types:
> On 25-Jan-01 Drill Bit1 wrote:
> > Will star office install in FreeBSD
> Apparently it will. If you update your ports tree it is there.

Been there for a while, actually. You want to use StarOffice52, not
the others.

> > If no - what is FreeBSD solution for word processing and spread sheet ?
> I use Applixware for that.

So do I - but it was my second choice for WP. I evaluated a half-dozen
different WP solutions for FreeBSD; you can read all about it at <URL:
http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/reviews/FreeBSD-WP.html >.

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Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> types:
> > On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 02:47:24PM +0000, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> > 
> > > Any of you people with a dual personality (FBSD and Linux) know
> > > of a functional equivalent to netcat on Linux ?
> > 
> > Well, netcat. The functionality should not only be equivalent
> > but completely identical.
> 
> Ok thanks. I couldnt find it, and the program "nc" is something
> completely different on Linux ..
> I will look again...

I did it for you:

guru$ cd /usr/ports
guru$ make search key=netcat
Port:   netcat-1.10
Path:   /usr/ports/net/netcat
Info:   Simple utility which reads and writes data across network connections
Maint:  obrien@FreeBSD.org
Index:  net
B-deps:
R-deps:

Looks like it's in the current ports tree.

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Dan: You should check that (Linux its an acronym Linux Its Not UniX) and a
very recursive one like GNU (Gnu its Not Unix)

Linus Torvalds named it that way (not only because he has a colosal EGO and
for the close spelling with his name but just to make shure AT&T dont sue
him jejejejeje :))
Nah!, the last prhase its a Joke Ok?, he only wanted to make clear that his
OS was "diferent from source" from the original Unix (TM), after all he was
a student on that time.

Greetings from Merida, Yucatan, Mexico.


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>
> > Is it true that "LINUX" stands for Linux Is Not UniX (LINUX)
> >
>
> No its not. Linus named it after himself.
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> Dan
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Dear Sir,
I would like to install Oracle Database in my computer. I have seen in
handbook, how to do it. But I must install some packages e.g.
linux_base. But in order to install it I must install the other package
e.g. popt-1.5... but it requires m4 packages etc. I have just download
eight packages. It spends a lot of time and I not sure that I have all
required packages. Could You give me advice how I can install all needed
packages quickly and at once?
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> Is there any application similar to ipf in linux? (one that uses the same
> sintaxis not as ip-chains)

The new 2.4 kernel has someting called iptables. I've read that it supports 
stateful inspection like ipf. There was a discussion on www.slashdot.org last 
Monday Januari 22 about it. Many people said ipf "did all that years ago", 
but i don't use Debian any more so I haven't tried it myself.

>
> and, what are the advantages using one or other?
>

ipf is likely more stable and better documented at this time. 
Plus the easy syntax is hard to beat.


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ertank@ozlerplastik.com (Ertan Kucukoglu) writes:

> I want to use ftp client and ftp server behind a firewall.
> 
> I tried to open ports 20 and 21 but, couldn't manage to use it. People can
> connect, give their passwords, but when they try to ls or get some file or
> something that my machine should send data to them it hangs there.
> 
> Which ports should be opened for proper ftp usage? 
> 
> I'm using ipfw, system is FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE. Internet NIC is called fxp1 on
> my machine. Also there is fxp0 for my LAN. ftp server is FreeBSD ftp server.

If both the server and client are behind separate firewalls, you won't
be able to use FTP between them unless the firewall has special code
to snoop on FTP control traffic and open ports for the data
connections dynamically.  I don't believe that ipfw or ipf do this.
An ftp proxy may help, but you would need to open holes for *that*
instead.  

Note that the FreeBSD ftp client will by default use ports in the
range 49152-65535.  You could open up that whole range, and FTP would
work, but, well, you'd've opened up a very big hole in your firewall.

If only the client is behind a firewall, then FTP should work fine if 
you use passive mode.  If only the server is behind a firewall, then
only active mode will work.  

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Dana <akadanak@kc.rr.com> types:
> I really don't like Netscape (too slow, crashes
> too oftem) and while I use lynx I do admit that
> I like a graphical browser.

I use w3m instead of lynx. It can be configured with the Lynx
keystrokes, handles frames, and can be driven from the mouse. The
critical feature is that it has the concept of "external browsers", so
you can configure it to open another browser on a link (or the current
page) almost as easily as you can follow it in w3m. Thus, when you run
into a page that really needs a graphical browser, you can invoke
your favorite graphical browser.

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recommend not to use the IPFORWARD option thus; RULE-BASED FORWARDING DISABLED
as I have had problems with NATD and this option running on 4.2...

Cheers,
Mikel

"Andrew J. Siegel" wrote:

> IPDIVERT enabled, RULE-BASED FORWARDING ENABLED
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 03:42:12PM -0500, Andrew J. Siegel wrote:
> > Alright just installed 4.2 w/ sysinstall....added options IPFIREWALL
> options
> > IPDIVER options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD all to my kernnel config (icebox2)
> > config'd and compile....did sysctl -a | grep fw...and fw.enable is set to
> > 1....ipfw show issues one allow all for static commands, and something
> > unknown for dynamic commands..
> >
> > try adding ipfw add 500 divert natd all from any to any via rl0
> >
> > and receive error:
> > ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD) INVALID ARGUMENT
>
> This usually indicates that you haven't *installed* a kernel with
> IPDIVERT options set. Send the list of your dmesg output.
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On Thursday 25 January 2001 17:06, you wrote:
> Dan: You should check that (Linux its an acronym Linux Its Not UniX) and a
> very recursive one like GNU (Gnu its Not Unix)

Sorry but I think you're wrong. Linus was using MINIX at his university, got 
unhappy with it not running on his i386 hardware and started to make his own 
version of it. That started Linux. The original aim was not "a unix" but "a 
minix for i386". So he made his own minix: Linux. 

> Nah!, the last prhase its a Joke Ok?, he only wanted to make clear that his
> OS was "diferent from source" from the original Unix (TM), after all he was
> a student on that time.

He communicated on comp.os.minix. Look it up if you like, or ask him. Of 
course I'm sure he was aware about the meaning of GNU because obviously he 
had to use GNU software.

I think because of the acronym GNU people tend to think that Linux is also an 
acronym. It is not, I believe. He also pronounces it as his name.


Greetings,

Dan


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* Piotr Kryszk <piotrk@zrit.olsztyn.tpsa.pl> [20010125 19:10]: writing on the subject 'installing packages'
Piotr> Dear Sir,
Piotr> I would like to install Oracle Database in my computer. I have seen in
Piotr> handbook, how to do it. But I must install some packages e.g.
Piotr> linux_base. But in order to install it I must install the other package
Piotr> e.g. popt-1.5... but it requires m4 packages etc. I have just download
Piotr> eight packages. It spends a lot of time and I not sure that I have all
Piotr> required packages. Could You give me advice how I can install all needed
Piotr> packages quickly and at once?
Piotr> Yours sincerely
Piotr> Peter Kryszk

I did take a look at the tutorial and it was a bit self-explanatory.
If you need to install the packages and you have a surely good Internet
connection, and you have the ports tree installed, then it will be easy.
Login as root and cd to /usr/ports

Each of those packages have a directory in that tree. Just do a locate to
find them, e.g. locate m4

cd /usr/ports/devel/m4
make install clean

Also for the rest. Or use /stand sysinstall and get them installed.
I'm sure by now you know what I mean ;-)

HTH

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pw useradd USERNAME -s /sbin/nologin


man pw for more info

Cheers,
Mikel

wmoran@mail.the-i-pa.com wrote:

> What is the generally accepted "correct" way to create user accounts that can not be used to login?
> I can think of more than one way to do this, but I was wondering if there was a method that was considered "standard" or typical. If not, what is the most used method?
>
> -Bill
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Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> 
> ertank@ozlerplastik.com (Ertan Kucukoglu) writes:
> 
> > I want to use ftp client and ftp server behind a firewall.
> >
> > I tried to open ports 20 and 21 but, couldn't manage to use it. People can
> > connect, give their passwords, but when they try to ls or get some file or
> > something that my machine should send data to them it hangs there.
> >
> > Which ports should be opened for proper ftp usage?
> >
> > I'm using ipfw, system is FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE. Internet NIC is called fxp1 on
> > my machine. Also there is fxp0 for my LAN. ftp server is FreeBSD ftp server.
> 
> If both the server and client are behind separate firewalls, you won't
> be able to use FTP between them unless the firewall has special code
> to snoop on FTP control traffic and open ports for the data
> connections dynamically.  I don't believe that ipfw or ipf do this.
> An ftp proxy may help, but you would need to open holes for *that*
> instead.

No, only the server is behind firewall.

> 
> Note that the FreeBSD ftp client will by default use ports in the
> range 49152-65535.  You could open up that whole range, and FTP would
> work, but, well, you'd've opened up a very big hole in your firewall.

I have very little information about ipfw. But, there should be a better
way?

> 
> If only the client is behind a firewall, then FTP should work fine if
> you use passive mode.  If only the server is behind a firewall, then
> only active mode will work.
> 
> Good luck.
> 

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 10:06:15AM -0600, Eric De La Cruz Lugo wrote:
> Linus Torvalds named it that way (not only because he has a colosal EGO and
> for the close spelling with his name but just to make shure AT&T dont sue
> him jejejejeje :))

Actually, he wanted to call it Freeix, but the person who ran the ftp
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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:24:47AM -0800, Ali Vercan wrote:
> Dear Sir / Madam,
>=20
> I want to develop a personal web server using pentium
> II.=20
>=20
> Could you send me minimum requirement to develop such
> a server or links which will help me.

FreeBSD runs on everything from a 386sx on up, and in fact depending
on your intended use for the webserver, a 386 may be all you need. A
pentium II would be quite adequate to handle a medium to heavy website
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You guys need to read the charters for the mailing lists. If you 
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> > him jejejejeje :))
> 
> Actually, he wanted to call it Freeix, but the person who ran the ftp
> server where Linus had originally posted his code changed its name to
> Linux.
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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 05:07:20PM +0100, Piotr Kryszk wrote:
> Dear Sir,
> I would like to install Oracle Database in my computer. I have seen in
> handbook, how to do it. But I must install some packages e.g.
> linux_base. But in order to install it I must install the other package
> e.g. popt-1.5... but it requires m4 packages etc. I have just download
> eight packages. It spends a lot of time and I not sure that I have all
> required packages. Could You give me advice how I can install all needed
> packages quickly and at once?

pkg_add -r <package-name> will recursively add the latest version of
<package-name> (e.g. "popt") plus all of the packages it depends on,
downloading them all from the net. For more information, see the
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On 25 Jan 2001, at 0:19, Steve Price wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:15:18PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > 
> > > > P.S. You're not running out of inetd, are you?
> > > 
> > > Yes I am.  I can't seem to get ftpd to start as a daemon for
> > > some dang reason. :/
> > 
> > Then I bet it's inetd hanging, not ftpd.
> 
> Okay, but it seems inetd has already handed of the request to
> ftpd since I get the password prompt and then it hangs.  Unless
> I inetd is handling the authentication for ftpd then the problem
> is most likely with ftpd and not the other way around.  But heh,
> I'll be glad to get this resolved so I'll investigate it further
> and see what turns up. :)
> 
> -steve

I can duplicate the same behavior of ftpd.  I am running a local 
network that connects to the internet via pp with the -nat option.  I 
am not running DNS on my local network and ftp takes 30 seconds 
or so to autheticate.  Also, if I don't have my ppp link up then trying 
to ftp anything in the local network causes the gateway to bring the 
link up.  Running inetd with the -dl flags cures the problem.  The 
gateway doesn't bring the ppp link up, and ftp autheticates very 
fast.  I would run DNS on my local network, but I haven't been able 
to figure out how to deal with the dynamic IP that I am assigned 
when connecting to the internet.

If I take ftpd out of my inetd.conf and run /usr/libexec/ftpd -D then I 
am able to run ftpd as a background daemon and get normal 
connection behavior. (ie no lag to authenticate)  Trying to start ftpd 
without the -D flag gives the error: getpeerbyname (./ftpd): Socket 
operation on non-socket.

This leads me to believe that the "problem" is in inetd, not in ftpd.

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mailq?  I thought about just rm /var/spool/mqueue/*, but there is
a lof of files in there :)





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Hi,

I tried looking through your web site but wasn't able to locate anything specific for this. Would you offer any type of courses or training specifically for FreeBSD? If so, anything available in the San Jose, CA area, or if you had any recommendations that would be appreciated.

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I have multiple Freebsd machines, Four  2.2.8 machines  and a new 4.2
stable machine that are handling multiple functions( email, file serving
with samba, web serving, etc. ) so I mave multiple password files and
group files and versions of the user name. Forgeting samba for now What is
the best way to synchronize the password files and group files so I only
have to enter a user passwd ,group once when setting up a user. And
maintain synchronicity when changing user info?

Somebody must be doing this but i'm not sure how to do it and doing it
manually is less then ideal.


TIA

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On Thursday January 25, 2001 11:11, Danny Pansters wrote:
> > Is there any application similar to ipf in linux? (one that uses
> > the same sintaxis not as ip-chains)
>
> The new 2.4 kernel has someting called iptables. I've read that it
> supports stateful inspection like ipf. There was a discussion on
> www.slashdot.org last Monday Januari 22 about it. Many people said
> ipf "did all that years ago", but i don't use Debian any more so I
> haven't tried it myself.
>
> > and, what are the advantages using one or other?
>
> ipf is likely more stable and better documented at this time.
> Plus the easy syntax is hard to beat.

Yes the general conclusion of the slashdot war was that ipf still has 
much better syntax.  It is very complicated to do many things in 
iptables that it is simpler to do in ipf.
	There may be examples the other way around, but the general idea was 
there wasn't many.  The attitude was yeah, well, we use Linux and at 
least now we *have* a stateful firewalling utility.
	It's pretty new so I would guess it to not be too bug free yet, and I 
would also think it is not terribly well documented yet.  Contrast that 
with:
http://www.obfuscation.org/ipf/
	I don't have any experience with IPtables and don't plan too, so I'm 
just going on what I've read, so take it for what it's worth.

						Tim


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I am looking for resources on how to properly set up a virtual tunnel
between two FreeBSD 4.2 firewalls. My intention is to establish a
secure connection between two offices both of which have DSL. I have
configured each FreeBSD 4.2 box as firewalls because they are
protecting W2K networks.

I can easily set up sshd on each firewall and use a product like Terra
Term Secure Shell on a w2k box to remotely log onto each  firewall in
order to
manage the firewalls from the other site.

However, I would like to go one step further. From a w2k box at site
A, connect to a w2k box at site B and manage the box or transfer
files. Something like VNC does a good job from w2k to w2k. However, I
would have to somehow configure a port or a nic on the firewall to
point to the interior box. Some sort of relay or routing mechanism.

As you  see my understanding is basic. I just need to find some good
websites or resources and do a bit of reading and experimenting.

-- 
Murray Davis
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John Daniel schrieb:
> 
> I have multiple Freebsd machines, Four  2.2.8 machines  and a new 4.2
> stable machine that are handling multiple functions( email, file serving
> with samba, web serving, etc. ) so I mave multiple password files and
> group files and versions of the user name. Forgeting samba for now What is
> the best way to synchronize the password files and group files so I only
> have to enter a user passwd ,group once when setting up a user. And
> maintain synchronicity when changing user info?

Have a look at NFS and NIS. "Managing NFS and NIS" by Hal Stern, ISBN:
0-937175-75-7 explains exactly how to get it done.

HTH
-Christoph Sold


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Tell the user to use the chsh tool.

markus niskanen schrieb:
> 
> When a user already been added and its home dir contains a lot of files.
> 
> After a while I'd like to change its login-shell from sh to bash,
> What files need to edited.
> I've tried passwd and master-passwd, but it don't seem work change the
> shell.

HTH
-Christoph Sold


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Hi all

If this is an inappropriate forum, please point me (gently) in the correct
direction.

<wits end>
Setup:
2 x /24 networks, both variably subnetted
PortMaster PM2E30 for dialup
FreeBSD running IPFW rules

Problem:
None of our dialup users can get past our home page. They can log onto our
authentication server and receive/send mail fine though.

I have gone through the ipfw.conf file umpteen times, tried RTFM until my
browser blew up :-) but I can't see anything wrong with the setup.

Could someone please give me some pointers to narrow this down?
</wits end>

TIA
/wiZZ



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On Thursday January 25, 2001 04:24, Ali Vercan wrote:
> Dear Sir / Madam,
>
> I want to develop a personal web server using pentium
> II.
>
> Could you send me minimum requirement to develop such
> a server or links which will help me.

Well if you already have the PII, an internet connection, and you're 
going to run the webserver on it all you have to do is
1.  install FreeBSD and the ports collection tree
2.  as root type: cd //usrports/www/apache13 ; make install clean

and you will have a webserver.  Then read the apache docs and so forth 
to learn more.   You can also install the other apache versions if you 
want ssl, php, etc.

						Tim


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Hi!

I am in process of optimizing perfomace of a server, which is
all-in-one (apache, qmail, mysql). I wonder if some software
can loose functionality if i use --noatime option for mounting
the filesystems.

The only case i could think of is mbox, which keep all
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Any idea what could suffer?

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 11:21:33AM -0600, jpaetzel@hutchtel.net wrote:
> 
> If I take ftpd out of my inetd.conf and run /usr/libexec/ftpd -D then I 
> am able to run ftpd as a background daemon and get normal 
> connection behavior. (ie no lag to authenticate)  Trying to start ftpd 
> without the -D flag gives the error: getpeerbyname (./ftpd): Socket 
> operation on non-socket.
> 
> This leads me to believe that the "problem" is in inetd, not in ftpd.

Still no dice here.  I did figure out that in order to run ftpd as
a standalone processs I had to use 'ftpd -D4', but even then I still
see the 30+ second delay after typing in the password. :/

-steve


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Does freeBSD support Digital Alphaservers with KZPSA controllers?


-- 
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Bart Pustjens schrieb:
> 
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Edwin Groothuis wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:17:41PM +0000, Bart Pustjens wrote:
> > > to redirect the connections on port 119 of my.news.machine to another
> > > news server (which only allows my.news.machine to connect, so
> > > my users can't connect directly to the other/new/temp news server).
> >
> > Checkout /usr/ports/sysutils/socket for a nice tool for this.
> 
> socket can't really redirect it from one machine on the net
> to another (unless you put it in inetd). Are their any other
> options ? (ipfw ?)

/usr/ports/net/rinetd

HTH
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* Peter Salvage <wizard@sybaweb.co.za> [20010125 21:01]: writing on the subject 'IPFW blocking users'
Peter> Hi all
Peter> 
Peter> If this is an inappropriate forum, please point me (gently) in the correct
Peter> direction.
Peter> 
Peter> <wits end>
Peter> Setup:
Peter> 2 x /24 networks, both variably subnetted
Peter> PortMaster PM2E30 for dialup
Peter> FreeBSD running IPFW rules
Peter> 
Peter> Problem:
Peter> None of our dialup users can get past our home page. They can log onto our
Peter> authentication server and receive/send mail fine though.

The gurus will want to see your ipfw rules, but I can guess that you are
not allowing them any access outside your network, right?

I'm just in the process of reading about this very interesting tool called
IPFW. My advise to you would be a novice one but I see in the man page of
ipfw:

A first and efficient way to limit access (not using dynamic rules) is
     the use of the following rules:
           ipfw add allow tcp from any to any established
           ipfw add allow tcp from net1 portlist1 to net2 portlist2 setup
           ipfw add allow tcp from net3 portlist3 to net3 portlist3 setup
           ...
           ipfw add deny tcp from any to any
     The first rule will be a quick match for normal TCP packets, but it
will
     not match the initial SYN packet, which will be matched by the setup
     rules only for selected source/destination pairs.  All other SYN
packets
     will be rejected by the final deny rule.
###

Some of your rules might be conflicting: Show the rules to the gurus....



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I only need a little advise on source synchronization.

Could someone kindly tell me what might have happened if you cvsup today
and your buildworld breaks, but you cvsup 2morrow and it goes OK? Is it
because we're all humans and are prone to err?


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Hi folks,

I just had a couple of questions regarding XFree86 4.0.2:

1. At this point, is it worth the upgrade from 3.3.whatever that comes
standard wtih 4.2-RELEASE? What are the benefits of upgrading? 

2. I really, really would like anti-aliased fonts :-) I'm a bit of an
aesthetic nut and I think that'd really improve the overall X Windows
experience, if yanno what I mean :-) 

But, I'm unsure from everything I've read about the XFree86 4.02
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...is out of date and does not match the version found at
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I strongly feel that the version on the web should be up-to-date, and
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Also having *both* online versions say "This ERRATA.TXT file is obviously
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Steve Price wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:33:43PM -0600, I wrote:
> >
> > BTW, how would I go about fixing the clients?  I try it from my
> > box at home or one at work that I know does reverse DNS correctly
> > and I still get the same thing.
>
> Urk, I take that back.  I just did it from yet another box at work
> and it logged in almost immediately.  This also happens to be the
> box hosting DNS for the domain it is in and I setup DNS so I know
> reverses work.

    I know this is going to sound stupid, but I had a similar experience
and I thought I would try and shed a new light on this.  If I don't
please feel free to tell me to piss off and mind my own business.

    I was wondering where you had the ftpd box's resolver pointing and
if you tried pointing it to your DNS box in your domain.
The reason being is I have a small fbsd box set up for our office that
is our DNS, Mail, and pop3 server.  I was doing a bit of goofing around
one day and decided to take out the references to the reverse-lookup in
named.conf because we only have a small subnet from our dsl provider and
they handle the reverse lookups for the larger subnet.  Anyway, every
computer in the office is pointed to use the fbsd box as the DNS
server.  As soon as I took that out, it took every computer in the
office about 30 seconds or so to contact the pop3 (which was running out
of inetd).  When I put the reverse-lookup table back in it worked like a
charm again.
    Now I could be waaaaay off on this, but could it be that the box you
are trying to run the ftp server on is pointing to a bad dns server with
bad or no reverse-lookup tables?

Again, I don't claim to be very knowledgeable in these subjects, but
this just struck me as somewhat similar to what happened to me

Joe Guetler
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Hi

Posted this message yesterday with no responce, has anyone got any ideas?



I get the following error when trying to compile FreeBSD's www site

kursk# cd /usr/www/
kursk# make
===> en
(sed -e 's/<!ENTITY date[ \t]*"$Free[B]SD. .* \(.* .*\) .* .* $">/<!ENTITY
date"Last modified: \1">/'  availability.sgml | SGML_CATALOG_FILES=''
sgmlnorm -d  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /usr/www/en >
availability.html) || (rm -f availability.html && false)
(sed -e 's/<!ENTITY date[ \t]*"$Free[B]SD. .* \(.* .*\) .* .* $">/<!ENTITY
date"Last modified: \1">/'  index.sgml | SGML_CATALOG_FILES=''
gmlnorm -d  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /usr/www/en >
index.html) || (rm -f index.html && false)
(sed -e 's/<!ENTITY date[ \t]*"$Free[B]SD. .* \(.* .*\) .* .* $">/<!ENTITY
date"Last modified: \1">/'  support.sgml | SGML_CATALOG_FILES=''
gmlnorm -d  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /usr/www/en >
support.html) || (rm -f support.html && false)
===> en/security
===> en/commercial
===> en/docproj
===> en/news
(sed -e 's/<!ENTITY date[ \t]*"$Free[B]SD. .* \(.* .*\) .* .* $">/<!ENTITY
date"Last modified: \1">/'  newsflash.sgml | SGML_CATALOG_FILES=''
sgmlnorm -d  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /usr/www/en/news >
newsflash.html) || (rm -f newsflash.html && false)
===> en/news/1996
===> en/news/1997
===> en/alpha
===> en/internal
===> en/java
===> en/java/dists
===> en/java/docs
===> en/java/links
===> en/copyright
(sed -e 's/<!ENTITY date[ \t]*"$Free[B]SD. .* \(.* .*\) .* .* $">/<!ENTITY
date"Last modified: \1">/'  freebsd-license.sgml | SGML_CATALOG_FILES=''
sgmlnorm -d  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /usr/www/en/copyright
> freebsd-license.html) || (rm -f freebsd-license.html && false)
make: don't know how to make /ports/LEGAL,v. Stop
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/www/en.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/www.
kursk#


Does any one have any ideas?

Gordon




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> Jorge Martinez wrote:
> 
> Other question :
> the freebsd 4.1 i want to connect to other pc freebsd 3.1 that now is my
> gateway, and which have ip 148.235.3.114, this connect to the router
> which has
> ip 148.235.3.113. So what changes in which file i must modify i hope you
> understand what i mean.
> 
If your configuration is like:

Internet<---->Router<--->FBSD 3.1<--->FBSD 4.1

And you want to use a non registered IP address to
connect both FBSD boxes, then you will have to use
an IP firewall and network address translation
daemon (natd).

There are several postings in the mail archives, and
I think you should read the tutorial:

http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/dialup-firewall/index.html

This tutorial assumes a dialup connection, this is not your
case, but it will give you a very good picture of what is
needed. Be carefull in things like the device it uses on the
scripts, in the examples they use "tun0", change this to
the right device for your NIC.

buena suerte

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Can you please tell me how to contact yahoo my email?
Since you are one of their Partner I though you might
have an email address. I have checked everywhere on
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:44:51 -0600
From: Steve Price <sprice@hiwaay.net>
To: Joe Guetler <joe@axiomadvertising.com>
Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: ftp slow to connect
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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:32:20PM -0600, Joe Guetler wrote:
> 
>     Now I could be waaaaay off on this, but could it be that the box you
> are trying to run the ftp server on is pointing to a bad dns server with
> bad or no reverse-lookup tables?

I'd have to say that you were spot on. :)  I just noticed that
the box in question which is running a caching-only named wasn't
using the primary DNS server for the domain that it is in as its
first choice to forward requests to.  I moved it to the first one
in the list and voila connections times are down around a couple
of seconds.  Thanks for the suggestion.

-steve


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Brian-

Ident lookups happen on port 113. If you add an "unreach" to your IPFW rules
this will stop. The default for IPFW is drop, so the service keeps trying
until it times out.

Henrik

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:00:49PM +0300, Andrew Karjagin wrote:
> On this server work Squid proxy and work very well for all 
> IP"s. But when client connect
> to server for E-mail (25 or 110 ports) from internal IP"s, 
> he must wait 
> from 2 to 5 minutes to connect. This problem is for local 
> connect (from server console) too.

This sounds like your SMTP server / POP server is trying to use
either DNS or ident to learn about the remote host/user.

As to why _that_ should be taking so long, maybe the firewall
blocking replies?

Try disabling those checks... (I do, it just wastes time for me...)

> Connection from external IP"s is fine (some second"s 
> maximum).
> Why so? I can"t find answer.
> 
> Thank you for your help!

-- 
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I'm hoping to get a Compaq WL200 or Symphony 4100 PCI Card soon
and I'd like to use it with FreeBSD for a point to point link to
a neighbour.  I see the Compaq WL100 is supported and it seems
the WL200 is the same but with a built in PCI to PCCard bridge.

Are these likely to be supported soon?

Thanks, John.


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Hi again,
    I',m trying to mount a SunOS/external drive onto a FreeBSD system
using a 50 pin cable.  The FreeBSD system sees the drive - ids it as
Seagate - gets the right size and names it as "da0".  This all shows up
in the dmesg.  The FreeBSD manuals say to mount drives that are foreign
like this as /dev/da1s1e where the s means mdos and the e is a slice of
a physical partition.  In the /dev directory there are nodes for
/dev/da1 but not "/dev/da1s1e".  There is a make file for creating
nodes, but the make makes guess what?  That's right the nodes that are
already exist.  How do you use mknode to make this inode?  What should
the major and minor numbers be?
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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 11:28:12AM -0600, Jason Hunt wrote:
> greetings,
> 
> I have around 4 messages in my sendmail mailq that have been
> deffered.  Basically it just keeps trying to send this to a host
> that doesn't exist -- how can I delete these messages in the
> mailq?  I thought about just rm /var/spool/mqueue/*, but there is
> a lof of files in there :)

When you do a mailq, there's a id associated with the stuck messages.
Each id is part of the filename of 2 files in /var/spool/mqueue. Just
remove those 2 files associated with the id.
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Hi,

    I have been seeing a FreeBSD-VS-Linux war on this mailing list and it=
 has
disturbed me beyond tolerance. Which drove me to write this e-mail.

 First I want to tell everyone that I love everything thats opensource an=
d
free, that includes FreeBSD,Linux,OpenBSD and NetBSD. But my most loved O=
S is
Linux for the following reasons.
  For its age Linux has gone farther than any other OS has, including *BS=
D's.
The BSD's have a history of 20+ years and you are trying to prove that it=
s
superior as compared to Linux? Give me a break! If they werent superior e=
ven
now, then they did not deserve to be used at all. Plus Linux was written =
from
scratch, even though it was derived from Minix it did not contain any for=
eign
source code. While the BSD's contained actual AT&T code for quite some ti=
me
and then they built upon that when they 'migrated' to 4.4BSD. Linux has a=
 more
open model of developement as compared to any of the BSD's. With the rele=
ase
of kernel 2.4.0 for Linux, its now an official gladiator in the arena of
Enterprise computing (although it is already running one of the most heav=
ily
visited sites namely google.com,freshmeat.net...). Microsoft hates Linux'=
s
guts while it seems to embrace the BSD's, for this reason alone is Linux =
worth
using! =


This discussion could go on without an end, but my point is not to prove =
that
Linux is better than FreeBSD or any other BSD but to say that Linux has d=
one
much to improve and its BETTER than NT (for some of you falmers kind info=
).
And watch out, Linux is fast improving and *very* soon the BSD's might se=
em
redundant with Linux around!

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Hi all

I'm a little hesitant about posting my ipfw rules here, but I'm getting
rather desperate. Our FreeBSD guru has left on holiday for Switzerland today
(of all days) and I've been lumped with this issue. Needless to say, fending
off dialup users is _not_ my idea of fun :-(

Would some kind soul be prepared to assist? Basically I have our Cisco
router's eth0 hardwired to the rl1 interface on our FreeBSD box, with the
rl0 interface connected to our switch. I'm really worried that a dynamic
route was typed in at the command line, which is why it was lost when the
box was rebooted.

I'm more than happy to share the contents of the ipfw.conf and (if it would
help) the rc.conf files off-list.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
TIA
/wiZZ

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From: "Odhiambo Washington" <wash@iconnect.co.ke>
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Sent: 25 January 2001 20:50
Subject: Re: IPFW blocking users


> * Peter Salvage <wizard@sybaweb.co.za> [20010125 21:01]: writing on the
subject 'IPFW blocking users'
> Peter> Hi all
> Peter>
> Peter> If this is an inappropriate forum, please point me (gently) in the
correct
> Peter> direction.
> Peter>
> Peter> <wits end>
> Peter> Setup:
> Peter> 2 x /24 networks, both variably subnetted
> Peter> PortMaster PM2E30 for dialup
> Peter> FreeBSD running IPFW rules
> Peter>
> Peter> Problem:
> Peter> None of our dialup users can get past our home page. They can log
onto our
> Peter> authentication server and receive/send mail fine though.
>
> The gurus will want to see your ipfw rules, but I can guess that you are
> not allowing them any access outside your network, right?
>
> I'm just in the process of reading about this very interesting tool called
> IPFW. My advise to you would be a novice one but I see in the man page of
> ipfw:
>
> A first and efficient way to limit access (not using dynamic rules) is
>      the use of the following rules:
>            ipfw add allow tcp from any to any established
>            ipfw add allow tcp from net1 portlist1 to net2 portlist2 setup
>            ipfw add allow tcp from net3 portlist3 to net3 portlist3 setup
>            ...
>            ipfw add deny tcp from any to any
>      The first rule will be a quick match for normal TCP packets, but it
> will
>      not match the initial SYN packet, which will be matched by the setup
>      rules only for selected source/destination pairs.  All other SYN
> packets
>      will be rejected by the final deny rule.
> ###
>
> Some of your rules might be conflicting: Show the rules to the gurus....
>
> -Wash
>
> --
> Odhiambo Washington  Inter-Connect Ltd.,
> wash@iconnect.co.ke  5th Flr Furaha Plaza
> Tel: 254 11 222604   Nkrumah Rd.,
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I am a newbie to freebsd and have a coardouple questions. I have a TAoshiba
Satellite 1715 and I would like to install freebsd on, I was looking at the
hardware list and did not see my hardware listed. I have a ati rage mobility
video chip, what server would I choose and also what would I choose for
monitor, generic lcd ? The next piece is a netgear fa 510 pcmcia network
card, is there a special driver or module I will need? I know in linux most
netgear cards use a tulip driver. Last but not least I have a crystal sound
fusion 4281 sound board. I guess I need some help, lmao. I am reading the
complete freebsd as we speak and hope I have not offened any one with all my
questions.I am interested in hearing from anyone who has installed on the
same laptop above or anyone who can help me out.Thanks for your time.....



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Hey !
Don't make my typo a great mistake. Typos happen to everyone. I am sure you
make them also(actually you did !! "mispell" !
Plus you don't make any sense. From your own point of view : If you would
know English you would not misspell 'misSpell'. So it means you don't know
how to write in English, and you have no idea what you are typing (random
symbols probably). You should not make conclusions quickly :P
Don't take it as offence, it's just a joke. 
 If I misspelled Linux it does not mean I do not use it. :p

caught in a lie.......don't lie again......

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if you used 'everything' you would not mispell 'linUx'......and you would
know what they mean........

caught in a lie.......dont lie again......

d~y
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Subject: curiosity


> Hello,
> It sounds kind of off topic, and not FreeBSD related. But
> I was going to mail it to Linux mailing list, but I don't want to offend
> them by my question :)
>
> Is it true that "LINUX" stands for Linux Is Not UniX (LINUX)
>
> Guys, no intend to start flame war, I use everything FreeBSD, OpenBSD,
> NetBSD, Lunux...
>  I just need to know this is it true or not.
> Thanks.
> P.S. Can you CC me please since I am no on a mailing list.
>
>
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Microsoft is great at com calls, you dont see me running it. From past
experiences converting high traffic servers from NT -> Linux -> BSD, BSD
IS the better of the three. Never have the servers which i run been so
stable. As for the 2.4.0 Kernel, it was just released. Im sure there will
be plenty of root exploits, bugs, problems (as always) with it to soon be
found.

You've said it yourself, BSD has a 20+ year headstart over linux so logic
would say that it is the better OS. My understanding is that the BSD code
audit is better than linux, which explains why the amount of exploits for
BSD servers/services are non-existant compared to linux.

As for Linux being better than NT? Ofcourse it is but hey, which OS isnt
better than NT?!

Microsoft: "Where would you like to go to today"
Linux: "Where would you like to go tomorrow"
FreeBSD: "Hey,when are you guys going to catch up"


On 25 Jan 2001, Assad Khan wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>     I have been seeing a FreeBSD-VS-Linux war on this mailing list and it has
> disturbed me beyond tolerance. Which drove me to write this e-mail.
> 
>  First I want to tell everyone that I love everything thats opensource and
> free, that includes FreeBSD,Linux,OpenBSD and NetBSD. But my most loved OS is
> Linux for the following reasons.
>   For its age Linux has gone farther than any other OS has, including *BSD's.
> The BSD's have a history of 20+ years and you are trying to prove that its
> superior as compared to Linux? Give me a break! If they werent superior even
> now, then they did not deserve to be used at all. Plus Linux was written from
> scratch, even though it was derived from Minix it did not contain any foreign
> source code. While the BSD's contained actual AT&T code for quite some time
> and then they built upon that when they 'migrated' to 4.4BSD. Linux has a more
> open model of developement as compared to any of the BSD's. With the release
> of kernel 2.4.0 for Linux, its now an official gladiator in the arena of
> Enterprise computing (although it is already running one of the most heavily
> visited sites namely google.com,freshmeat.net...). Microsoft hates Linux's
> guts while it seems to embrace the BSD's, for this reason alone is Linux worth
> using! 
> 
> This discussion could go on without an end, but my point is not to prove that
> Linux is better than FreeBSD or any other BSD but to say that Linux has done
> much to improve and its BETTER than NT (for some of you falmers kind info).
> And watch out, Linux is fast improving and *very* soon the BSD's might seem
> redundant with Linux around!
> 
> Regards,
> Assad Khan.
> 
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From: Kenneth Wayne Culver <culverk@wam.umd.edu>
To: Assad Khan <assad.khan@usa.net>
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>     I have been seeing a FreeBSD-VS-Linux war on this mailing list and
> it has disturbed me beyond tolerance. Which drove me to write this
> e-mail.
> 
>  First I want to tell everyone that I love everything thats opensource
> and free, that includes FreeBSD,Linux,OpenBSD and NetBSD. But my most
> loved OS is Linux for the following reasons.


>   For its age Linux has gone farther than any other OS has, including
> *BSD's. The BSD's have a history of 20+ years and you are trying to
> prove that its superior as compared to Linux? Give me a break! If they
> werent superior even now, then they did not deserve to be used at all.
> Plus Linux was written from scratch, even though it was derived from
> Minix it did not contain any foreign source code. While the BSD's
> contained actual AT&T code for quite some time and then they built
> upon that when they 'migrated' to 4.4BSD. Linux has a more open model
> of developement as compared to any of the BSD's. With the release of
> kernel 2.4.0 for Linux, its now an official gladiator in the arena of
> Enterprise computing (although it is already running one of the most
> heavily visited sites namely google.com,freshmeat.net...). Microsoft
> hates Linux's guts while it seems to embrace the BSD's, for this
> reason alone is Linux worth using!

Where do you think the 2.4 kernel got it's networking and vm
code? FreeBSD! OF course most linux zealots like yourself would not stop
to realize this. Linux's model of development is FAR from being more open
than FreeBSD's and it could be argued that FreeBSD's model is FAR more
open. The BSD License allows anyone do do anything with the code that they
want to do, without even disclosing it, as long as they include a notice
about the University of California, Berkley or something. However, the GPL
(what linux falls under) maintains that everything must remain open
source, and the source for all work and all changes to the code must be
published with the product. This isn't that open because while it forces
the source to be released, it limits it's usability to companies because
companies don't always want to release their intellectual property to the
masses. So FreeBSD's licence is more open and flexible. The reason that
FreeBSD is better than linux is because it's code is very mature. The main
reason for linux's relative instability and it's flakiness under large
loads is because it is so new. The ONLY reason that linux 2.4 is going to
be any better is because linus took most of the Tcp/ip stack and most of
the vm code from FreeBSD. Get your facts straight before you send
flamebait to lists.

> This discussion could go on without an end, but my point is not to
> prove that Linux is better than FreeBSD or any other BSD but to say
> that Linux has done much to improve and its BETTER than NT (for some
> of you falmers kind info). And watch out, Linux is fast improving and
> *very* soon the BSD's might seem redundant with Linux around. 

You are writing as if FreeBSD is not improving anymore. FreeBSD's
development is just as active as linux's and in some cases progressing at
a faster rate because of it's superior organization. In some places
linux's 2.4 kernel was being called vaporware because it took SOOO long to
come out. 

Ken



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Hi,
    I'm trying to mount an external SCSI hard drive to my freebsd
system.  The hard drive is a SUNOS 4.2 drive and I'm
connected to it by a 50 pin SCSI connector.  The dmesg shows
the following:

<cut -------------- >
sym0: <875> rev 0x04 int a irq 10 on pci0.9.0
sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, parity checking
sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM
<cut ------------ >
Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
sym0: Downloading SCSI SCRIPTS.
(noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI bus reset delivered.
changida0 at sym0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
da0: <SEAGATE ST5660N  SUN0535 0638> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing
Enabled
da0: 520MB (1065664 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 520C)
<cut ------------ >

  A "disklabel -r da0" fails to work, but all the above info is right.
What should the entry in the fstab be to mount this drive?
And what should the major and minor numbers be for the device?
- So that I can make the block special file for it ?


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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 11:12:55AM -0800, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> [I don't know why -current is CC'd this is clearly about -stable]
> 
> Ruslan Ermilov wrote:

   [ story of a little prob with groff skiped; 
	the patch worked fine ;) ]
> > 
> > Attached is the patch for RELENG_4.  It works but I don't like
> > how it pollutes the Makefile.inc1.  Anyone with a better idea?
> 
> Allow me to sidetrack for a moment:
> 
> I just ugraded a machine from 4.1 to 4.2-stable without any problems.
> I'm a bit confused. Rene picks up RELENG_4 and sees his build fail. Why
> did it work for me?

Maybe because I might have traces of my old 3.4 system lying around?

> -- 
> Marcel Moolenaar
>   mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org
>   tel:  (408) 447-4222

I've done my next compile, after applying the patch given to me by Ruslan;

Unfortunately, it now fails for c++...

c++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/g++ -O -pipe
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../include -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1
-DHAVE_LIMITS_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_MATH_H=1
-DRET_TYPE_SRAND_IS_VOID=1 -DHAVE_SYS_NERR=1 -DHAVE_SYS_ERRLIST=1 -DHAVE_CC_LIMITS_H=1
-DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_STRUCT_EXCEPTION=1 -DHAVE_GETPAGESIZE=1 -DHAVE_MMAP=1 -DHAVE_FMOD=1
-DHAVE_STRTOL=1 -DHAVE_GETCWD=1 -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_PUTENV=1 -DHAVE_RENAME=1 -DHAVE_MKSTEMP=1
-DHAVE_STRCASECMP=1 -DHAVE_STRNCASECMP=1 -DHAVE_STRSEP=1 -DHAVE_STRDUP=1 -DSYS_SIGLIST_DECLARED=1
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/include -fno-for-scope
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/assert.cc -o assert.o
cc1plus: Invalid option `-fno-exceptions'
*** Error code 1

Stop.

Any ideas on how to solve this?

For the newcomers; I re-installed via bootfloppies, upgrading a 3.4 system to 4.1 with an ISO
image because I couldn't get CVSup to work due to many small 'stops' along the way ;) Anyway. I
think I *need* to be able to build a new world, because parts of my system are complaining about
functions missing and stuff..

I'll include the uname and cvsupfile I used again;

FreeBSD messenger 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #0: Sun Dec 17 18:12:40 CET 2000
root@messenger:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386


*default host=cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
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*default prefix=/usr
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On 25 Jan 2001, Assad Khan wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>     I have been seeing a FreeBSD-VS-Linux war on this mailing list and it has
> disturbed me beyond tolerance. Which drove me to write this e-mail.
> 
I haven't. I think you're imagining it.

-ac

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 12:22:39PM -0600, Steve Price wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 11:21:33AM -0600, jpaetzel@hutchtel.net wrote:
> > 
> > If I take ftpd out of my inetd.conf and run /usr/libexec/ftpd -D then I 
> > am able to run ftpd as a background daemon and get normal 
> > connection behavior. (ie no lag to authenticate)  Trying to start ftpd 
> > without the -D flag gives the error: getpeerbyname (./ftpd): Socket 
> > operation on non-socket.
> > 
> > This leads me to believe that the "problem" is in inetd, not in ftpd.
> 
> Still no dice here.  I did figure out that in order to run ftpd as
> a standalone processs I had to use 'ftpd -D4', but even then I still
> see the 30+ second delay after typing in the password. :/

/etc/defaults/rc.conf shows inetd_flags="-wW", tcpwrapping is enabled,
and this is where the reverse lookup could be happening?  To match
entries in /etc/{hosts.allow,hosts.deny}.

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Hi Folks,

I'm trying to build a new 4.2-stable system these days.
It's actually going fairly well too!  But I have one of
those "did I miss a step?" sorts of questions...

When I installed the whole mess originally, I had two
Western Digital 1G Caviar drives hanging around the house
(Yes, back then dirt still _was_ rocks!).  And I installed
both those drives just fine.  Now I expected them to show
up as /dev/wd's.  Nah.  They showed up as /dev/ad's.

Uh, OK.  I guess.  And /etc/fstab thought so too.  Uh, OK.

So today I added a new, hot off the shelf Western Digital 40G
Caviar drive and wanted to dice it up as /u03 and /u04 with
roughly 20G each.  I apparently successfully ran /stand/sysinstall
to do the nasty formating, dicing, slicing and labeling for me!
And I again thought I was talking about /dev/wd2s1e and s1f.
So I modified /etc/fstab to have those new /u03 and /u04 mount
points.  Worked great.

But still, this whole /dev/ad versus /dev/wd things lingers...
I have a mix now...  The list of devices in /dev/MAKEDEV isn't,
uh, clear here either.

How concerned should I be?  Did I miss a step?  Is there some
funky name correlation I missed somewhere?

Thanks!
jdl

PS -- And for those keeping track, yes, this is an effort to
      stop some apparent rpc.statd hacks as mumbled here before.. :-)

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> i am on your side just wnated to know how much of FreeBSD networking
> code is in 2.4?

I'm not sure, but I think the BSD networking stuff has been in linux since
2.2, I think 2.4 got a lot of FreeBSD's VM stuff. I don't know how much of
either is there, but I remember reading about it, and I've worked in both
kernels before and have seen some pretty non-superficial similarities in
both.

Ken



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From: Assad Khan <assad.khan@usa.net>
To: Joe Oliveiro <joe@advancewebhosting.com>
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Like I said, my point is not to argue that Linux is better than BSD, of c=
ourse
it is not. But is is getting there. Inspite of all the exploits that are =
to be
found in the new kernel it is getting significantly better. When I ran Fr=
eeBSD
after running Linux for about 9 months I found it to be more polished and=
 well
designed. My venting is a result of some people equating Linux with Windo=
ws
NT. I am more for unity than fighting. When I joined this list I thought =
I
would find people that appreciated Linux and its efforts, unfortunately i=
t was
otherwise. We Linux users regard BSD as a big brother to Linux, but you s=
eem
not to act that way.


Joe Oliveiro <joe@advancewebhosting.com> wrote:
Microsoft is great at com calls, you dont see me running it. From past
experiences converting high traffic servers from NT -> Linux -> BSD, BSD
IS the better of the three. Never have the servers which i run been so
stable. As for the 2.4.0 Kernel, it was just released. Im sure there will=

be plenty of root exploits, bugs, problems (as always) with it to soon be=

found.

You've said it yourself, BSD has a 20+ year headstart over linux so logic=

would say that it is the better OS. My understanding is that the BSD code=

audit is better than linux, which explains why the amount of exploits for=

BSD servers/services are non-existant compared to linux.

As for Linux being better than NT? Ofcourse it is but hey, which OS isnt
better than NT?!

Microsoft: "Where would you like to go to today"
Linux: "Where would you like to go tomorrow"
FreeBSD: "Hey,when are you guys going to catch up"


On 25 Jan 2001, Assad Khan wrote:

> Hi,
> =

>     I have been seeing a FreeBSD-VS-Linux war on this mailing list and =
it
has
> disturbed me beyond tolerance. Which drove me to write this e-mail.
> =

>  First I want to tell everyone that I love everything thats opensource =
and
> free, that includes FreeBSD,Linux,OpenBSD and NetBSD. But my most loved=
 OS
is
> Linux for the following reasons.
>   For its age Linux has gone farther than any other OS has, including
*BSD's.
> The BSD's have a history of 20+ years and you are trying to prove that =
its
> superior as compared to Linux? Give me a break! If they werent superior=

even
> now, then they did not deserve to be used at all. Plus Linux was writte=
n
from
> scratch, even though it was derived from Minix it did not contain any
foreign
> source code. While the BSD's contained actual AT&T code for quite some =
time
> and then they built upon that when they 'migrated' to 4.4BSD. Linux has=
 a
more
> open model of developement as compared to any of the BSD's. With the
release
> of kernel 2.4.0 for Linux, its now an official gladiator in the arena o=
f
> Enterprise computing (although it is already running one of the most
heavily
> visited sites namely google.com,freshmeat.net...). Microsoft hates Linu=
x's
> guts while it seems to embrace the BSD's, for this reason alone is Linu=
x
worth
> using! =

> =

> This discussion could go on without an end, but my point is not to prov=
e
that
> Linux is better than FreeBSD or any other BSD but to say that Linux has=

done
> much to improve and its BETTER than NT (for some of you falmers kind in=
fo).
> And watch out, Linux is fast improving and *very* soon the BSD's might =
seem
> redundant with Linux around!
> =

> Regards,
> Assad Khan.
> =

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You know, everybody says this, that Linux uses the FreeBSD tcp/ip stack 
and other things, but no one seems to verify it.  Has anyone actually 
looked into the code?  It shouldn't be very hard to grep through the 
code and see.  If they don't mention the copyright and they use the 
code, then that's illegal, and I can't picture them doing that, they're 
quite serious about their GPL, and it's implications.
	If they didn't actually use any of the code, but instead rewrote 
similiar stuff, then they didn't really steal it.  At that point that's 
no different from any other code that gets shared between the projects.

						Tim

On Thursday January 25, 2001 16:45, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > i am on your side just wnated to know how much of FreeBSD
> > networking code is in 2.4?
>
> I'm not sure, but I think the BSD networking stuff has been in linux
> since 2.2, I think 2.4 got a lot of FreeBSD's VM stuff. I don't know
> how much of either is there, but I remember reading about it, and
> I've worked in both kernels before and have seen some pretty
> non-superficial similarities in both.
>
> Ken
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Is it possible to write applications with Java with BSD, and what do I need 
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rene@xs4all.nl wrote:
> 
> > I just ugraded a machine from 4.1 to 4.2-stable without any problems.
> > I'm a bit confused. Rene picks up RELENG_4 and sees his build fail. Why
> > did it work for me?
> 
> Maybe because I might have traces of my old 3.4 system lying around?

I upgraded from 3-STABLE as well :-/

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 05:00:44PM -0500, DataExplorer@aol.com wrote:
> Is it possible to write applications with Java with BSD, and what do I need 
> to do that?

There's information on:

	http://www.freebsd.org/java/

Alternatively, as root:

	cd /usr/ports/jdk
	make && make install

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I've continued trying to get my buildworld to stop nagging, and have taken
two more hurdles for the current c++ problem. 

It nagged about something internal (posted earlier), so I recompiled
it in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/c++ using make install

c++ then nagged me about libc.so.4 not being OK, so I did a make install
in /usr/src/lib/libc, which fixed that.

But then I hit this;

c++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/g++ -O -pipe
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../include -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1
-DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DHAVE_LIMITS_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1
-DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_MATH_H=1 -DRET_TYPE_SRAND_IS_VOID=1
-DHAVE_SYS_NERR=1 -DHAVE_SYS_ERRLIST=1 -DHAVE_CC_LIMITS_H=1
-DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_STRUCT_EXCEPTION=1 -DHAVE_GETPAGESIZE=1
-DHAVE_MMAP=1 -DHAVE_FMOD=1 -DHAVE_STRTOL=1 -DHAVE_GETCWD=1
-DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_PUTENV=1 -DHAVE_RENAME=1 -DHAVE_MKSTEMP=1
-DHAVE_STRCASECMP=1 -DHAVE_STRNCASECMP=1 -DHAVE_STRSEP=1 -DHAVE_STRDUP=1
-DSYS_SIGLIST_DECLARED=1
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/include
-fno-for-scope -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -fno-rtti
-fno-exceptions -c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/assert.cc
-o assert.o
*Initialization*:1: cc1plus: warning: Invalid option
`-fno-exceptions'`__FreeBSD__' redefined

*Initialization*:1: warning: this is the location of the previous
definition
*Initialization*:1: warning: `__FreeBSD_cc_version' redefined
*Initialization*:1: warning: this is the location of the previous
definition
*** Error code 1

Stop.

And this one I don't get, even after staring at it for a while ;)

Some guidance would be much appreciated.



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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 1/25/01, 7:56:37 PM, Odhiambo Washington <wash@iconnect.co.ke> wrote
regarding Advise Please:


> I only need a little advise on source synchronization.

> Could someone kindly tell me what might have happened if you cvsup
today
> and your buildworld breaks, but you cvsup 2morrow and it goes OK? Is
it
> because we're all humans and are prone to err?



Hello Odhiambo,

Errare humanum, perseverare autem**... :-))



Seriously, though, the best piece of advice I have ever heard of is
the following:

1) cvsup and update a test machine;
2) test... the test machine for a week or so.


N.B. the updating process itself, in this connection, is a *minor*
issue. Rather, it is important (even essential) that you should
"squeeze" your test machine, in order to examine/check/scrutinize its
actual stability/functionality/etc. before committing -- if I may say
so -- the changes to your production machines.

Best regards,
Salvo

**reference to [FreeBSD's] daemon(s) is to be considered as purely
coincidental.





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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 04:52:10PM +0100, Danny Pansters wrote:
> 
> > Is it true that "LINUX" stands for Linux Is Not UniX (LINUX)
> >
> 
> No its not. Linus named it after himself.
> 
And it is pronounced to rhyme with "cynics" (true !) and not
a la the Peanuts cartoon character.
... so if I write an O/S "cliffux" you will have to pronounce
it "clinics", so you could have "clinics clinics" .. 

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Hello,

I was just attempting to make a custom kernel when make failed.
I'm not sure of where to go from here.  Can someone assist me
in determining what went wrong?

TIA, 
Doug

********* output from make ***************

cc -elf -shared -nostdlib hack.c -o hack.So
rm -f hack.c
sh ../../conf/newvers.sh CANAAN 
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  vers.c
linking kernel
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim':
umass.o(.text+0x1257): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc'
umass.o(.text+0x127d): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc'
umass.o(.text+0x1296): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register'
umass.o(.text+0x12a6): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback':
umass.o(.text+0x12bf): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan':
umass.o(.text+0x1309): undefined reference to `xpt_periph'
umass.o(.text+0x1312): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path'
umass.o(.text+0x1325): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb'
umass.o(.text+0x1340): undefined reference to `xpt_action'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim':
umass.o(.text+0x13f7): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister'
umass.o(.text+0x1415): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach':
umass.o(.text+0x1456): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path'
umass.o(.text+0x1477): undefined reference to `xpt_async'
umass.o(.text+0x147f): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action':
umass.o(.text+0x179d): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o(.text+0x17ad): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb':
umass.o(.text+0x18a1): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb':
umass.o(.text+0x1918): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o(.text+0x1929): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/CANAAN.

********* kernel file ***************

# CANAAN -- Custom kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.20 2000/10/31 23:16:07 n_hibma Exp $

machine		i386
cpu		I686_CPU
ident		CANAAN
maxusers	32

#makeoptions	DEBUG=-g		#Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols

options 	MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
options 	INET			#InterNETworking
#options 	INET6			#IPv6 communications protocols
options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options 	SOFTUPDATES		#Enable FFS soft updates support
options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
options 	MD_ROOT			#MD is a potential root device
options 	NFS			#Network Filesystem
options 	NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device, NFS required
options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options 	CD9660			#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options 	CD9660_ROOT		#CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options 	COMPAT_43		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options 	SCSI_DELAY=15000	#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) support
options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores
options 	P1003_1B		#Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options		ICMP_BANDLIM		#Rate limit bad replies
options 	KBD_INSTALL_CDEV	# install a CDEV entry in /dev

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
#options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
#options 	APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O

device		isa
#device		eisa
device		pci

# Floppy drives
device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
#device		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device		ata0	at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device		ata1	at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device		ata
device		atadisk			# ATA disk drives
device		atapicd			# ATAPI CDROM drives
#device		atapifd			# ATAPI floppy drives
#device		atapist			# ATAPI tape drives
options 	ATA_STATIC_ID		#Static device numbering
#options 	ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA	#Enable DMA on ATAPI devices

# SCSI Controllers
#device		ahb		# EISA AHA1742 family
#device		ahc		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
#device		amd		# AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
#device		isp		# Qlogic family
#device		ncr		# NCR/Symbios Logic
#device		sym		# NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
#options		SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
				# Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when 
				# both sym and ncr are configured

#device		adv0	at isa?
#device		adw
#device		bt0	at isa?
#device		aha0	at isa?
#device		aic0	at isa?

#device		ncv		# NCR 53C500
#device		nsp		# Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
#device		stg		# TMC 18C30/18C50

# SCSI peripherals
#device		scbus		# SCSI bus (required)
#device		da		# Direct Access (disks)
#device		sa		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
#device		cd		# CD
#device		pass		# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)

# RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
#device		asr		# DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
#device		dpt		# DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
#device		mly		# Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID

# RAID controllers
#device		ida		# Compaq Smart RAID
#device		amr		# AMI MegaRAID
#device		mlx		# Mylex DAC960 family
#device		twe		# 3ware Escalade

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device		atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD
device		atkbd0	at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12

device		vga0	at isa?

# splash screen/screen saver
pseudo-device	splash

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa? flags 0x100

# Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
#device		vt0	at isa?
#options 	XSERVER			# support for X server on a vt console
#options 	FAT_CURSOR		# start with block cursor
# If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines
#options 	PCVT_SCANSET=2		# IBM keyboards are non-std

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13

# Power management support (see LINT for more options)
device		apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management

# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
#device		card
#device		pcic0	at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
#device		pcic1	at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable

# Serial (COM) ports
device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
device		sio1	at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
#device		sio2	at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
#device		sio3	at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9

# Parallel port
device		ppc0	at isa? irq 7
device		ppbus		# Parallel port bus (required)
device		lpt		# Printer
device		plip		# TCP/IP over parallel
device		ppi		# Parallel port interface device
#device		vpo		# Requires scbus and da


# PCI Ethernet NICs.
#device		de		# DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
#device		fxp		# Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
#device		tx		# SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
#device		vx		# 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
#device		wx		# Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')

# PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
# NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs!
device		miibus		# MII bus support
#device		dc		# DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
#device		pcn		# AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
#device		rl		# RealTek 8129/8139
#device		sf		# Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
#device		sis		# Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
#device		ste		# Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
#device		tl		# Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
#device		vr		# VIA Rhine, Rhine II
#device		wb		# Winbond W89C840F
device		xl		# 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')

# ISA Ethernet NICs.
#device		ed0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
#device		ex
#device		ep
#device		fe0	at isa? port 0x300
# WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really
# exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed
# and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code.
#device		wi
# Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will
# work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP
# mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
# card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify
# those paremeters here.
#device		an
# Xircom Ethernet
#device		xe
# The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
device		ie0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
#device		le0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
#device		lnc0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
#device		cs0	at isa? port 0x300
#device		sn0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10

# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
pseudo-device	sl	1	# Kernel SLIP
pseudo-device	ppp	1	# Kernel PPP
pseudo-device	tun		# Packet tunnel.
pseudo-device	pty		# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
pseudo-device	md		# Memory "disks"
pseudo-device	gif	4	# IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
pseudo-device	faith	1	# IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)

# The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
pseudo-device	bpf		#Berkeley packet filter

# USB support
device		uhci		# UHCI PCI->USB interface
device		ohci		# OHCI PCI->USB interface
device		usb		# USB Bus (required)
device		ugen		# Generic
device		uhid		# "Human Interface Devices"
device		ukbd		# Keyboard
device		ulpt		# Printer
device		umass		# Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
device		ums		# Mouse
device		uscanner	# Scanners
# USB Ethernet, requires mii
device		aue		# ADMtek USB ethernet
device		cue		# CATC USB ethernet
device		kue		# Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet


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> 
> I have multiple Freebsd machines, Four  2.2.8 machines  and a new 4.2
> stable machine that are handling multiple functions( email, file serving
> with samba, web serving, etc. ) so I mave multiple password files and
> group files and versions of the user name. Forgeting samba for now What is
> the best way to synchronize the password files and group files so I only
> have to enter a user passwd ,group once when setting up a user. And

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Let's not start the childish fighting. Please restrict
it to childish name calling, please. And, so you know,
Linux is a term created by the inventor of Linux,
Linus Torvalds (I think I spelled that wrong). He
wrote it from scratch to simulate Unix. And, therefor,
requires the utmost respect and admiration.

--- "Zaitsau, Andrei" <AZaitsau@panasonicfa.com>
wrote:
> Hey !
> Don't make my typo a great mistake. Typos happen to
> everyone. I am sure you
> make them also(actually you did !! "mispell" !
> Plus you don't make any sense. From your own point
> of view : If you would
> know English you would not misspell 'misSpell'. So
> it means you don't know
> how to write in English, and you have no idea what
> you are typing (random
> symbols probably). You should not make conclusions
> quickly :P
> Don't take it as offence, it's just a joke. 
>  If I misspelled Linux it does not mean I do not use
> it. :p
> 
> caught in a lie.......don't lie again......
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SpaZ [mailto:spaz@bsdguys.org]
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 12:28 PM
> To: Zaitsau, Andrei
> Subject: Re: curiosity
> 
> 
> if you used 'everything' you would not mispell
> 'linUx'......and you would
> know what they mean........
> 
> caught in a lie.......dont lie again......
> 
> d~y
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Zaitsau, Andrei <AZaitsau@panasonicfa.com>
> To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'
> <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 9:30 AM
> Subject: curiosity
> 
> 
> > Hello,
> > It sounds kind of off topic, and not FreeBSD
> related. But
> > I was going to mail it to Linux mailing list, but
> I don't want to offend
> > them by my question :)
> >
> > Is it true that "LINUX" stands for Linux Is Not
> UniX (LINUX)
> >
> > Guys, no intend to start flame war, I use
> everything FreeBSD, OpenBSD,
> > NetBSD, Lunux...
> >  I just need to know this is it true or not.
> > Thanks.
> > P.S. Can you CC me please since I am no on a
> mailing list.
> >
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greg simonoff <gsimonoff@geocities.com> types:
>     I',m trying to mount a SunOS/external drive onto a FreeBSD system
> using a 50 pin cable.  The FreeBSD system sees the drive - ids it as
> Seagate - gets the right size and names it as "da0".  This all shows up
> in the dmesg.  The FreeBSD manuals say to mount drives that are foreign
> like this as /dev/da1s1e where the s means mdos and the e is a slice of
> a physical partition. 

The part about 's' isn't true. Could you please let us know which
manual says that, so we can do soemthing about fixing it.

> In the /dev directory there are nodes for
> /dev/da1 but not "/dev/da1s1e".  There is a make file for creating
> nodes, but the make makes guess what?  That's right the nodes that are
> already exist.  How do you use mknode to make this inode?  What should
> the major and minor numbers be?

Try doing "sh MAKEDEV da1s1e" in /dev; that should make the device
entries for you.

>     It would be alot of help to know what the fstab entry for this dirve
> should look like.

That depends on the layout of the drive. Does it use MSDOS slices at
all? Can you read the disklabel off of it, or do you know what it was
on SunOS?

It's not at all clear that you can do what you're trying to do. SunOS
usually refers to the BSD-based versions of Sun's OS, but that doesn't
mean the file systems will be the same. The file system has changed
quit a bit since Sun forked the code.

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greg simonoff wrote:

> There is a make file for creating
> nodes, but the make makes guess what?  That's right the nodes that are
> already exist.  How do you use mknode to make this inode?  What should
> the major and minor numbers be?

To create your specific device do:

cd /dev
./MAKEDEV da1s1e

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Hi all

Just some feedback, and a big thank you to James Housley, who quite
patiently and eloquently assisted me.

The problem was a simple (aren't they all AFTERwards?) route, that I
omitted.

/wiZZ

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> Hi all
>
> I'm a little hesitant about posting my ipfw rules here, but I'm getting
> rather desperate. Our FreeBSD guru has left on holiday for Switzerland
today
> (of all days) and I've been lumped with this issue. Needless to say,
fending
> off dialup users is _not_ my idea of fun :-(

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I've seen a lot of info on this list about mirroring hard drives, most of
which is answered with "man vinum".

I want to mirror two hard drives so that if one fails, the other will
boot.  And while I'm honestly expecting that this could be done with
vinum, I don't think I need it, as the data on the drives (other than
logfiles) will br pretty static.  (this is for a router)

So here's the questions of the day:

1. Is there some boot manager that will recognize failed drives and roll
over to the next?

2. Does vinum (or is it the loader) support booting directly to a vinum
partition?

3. Can anyone think of a better way to do this (I've thought about making
boot floppies and I've also considered making a boot cdrom, although I
have no idea how I would do this, help would be appreciated)

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Assad Khan <assad.khan@usa.net> types:
> My venting is a result of some people equating Linux with Windows
> NT.

I didn't see anyone doing that. I saw people complaining that some of
the Linux distributions acted like Windows distributions, but that's a
different thing.

> I am more for unity than fighting. When I joined this list I thought
> I would find people that appreciated Linux and its efforts,
> unfortunately it was otherwise. We Linux users regard BSD as a big
> brother to Linux, but you seem not to act that way.

You're right, I don't. Linux is a nice, SysVish system that benefits
from Open Source. If I was interested in such, I'd find a Linux
distribution I liked.

Linux also makes a nice desktop system, with better support for
oddball hardware, and distributions built to cater to Windows
users. The latter I don't want, and would avoid in a BSD system as
well as a Linux system. The former I'm willing to give up to get BSD
instead of SysV.

	<mike

> Joe Oliveiro <joe@advancewebhosting.com> wrote:
> Microsoft is great at com calls, you dont see me running it. From past
> experiences converting high traffic servers from NT -> Linux -> BSD, BSD
> IS the better of the three. Never have the servers which i run been so
> stable. As for the 2.4.0 Kernel, it was just released. Im sure there will=
> 
> be plenty of root exploits, bugs, problems (as always) with it to soon be=
> 
> found.
> 
> You've said it yourself, BSD has a 20+ year headstart over linux so logic=
> 
> would say that it is the better OS. My understanding is that the BSD code=
> 
> audit is better than linux, which explains why the amount of exploits for=
> 
> BSD servers/services are non-existant compared to linux.
> 
> As for Linux being better than NT? Ofcourse it is but hey, which OS isnt
> better than NT?!
> 
> Microsoft: "Where would you like to go to today"
> Linux: "Where would you like to go tomorrow"
> FreeBSD: "Hey,when are you guys going to catch up"
> 
> 
> On 25 Jan 2001, Assad Khan wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > =
> 
> >     I have been seeing a FreeBSD-VS-Linux war on this mailing list and =
> it
> has
> > disturbed me beyond tolerance. Which drove me to write this e-mail.
> > =
> 
> >  First I want to tell everyone that I love everything thats opensource =
> and
> > free, that includes FreeBSD,Linux,OpenBSD and NetBSD. But my most loved=
>  OS
> is
> > Linux for the following reasons.
> >   For its age Linux has gone farther than any other OS has, including
> *BSD's.
> > The BSD's have a history of 20+ years and you are trying to prove that =
> its
> > superior as compared to Linux? Give me a break! If they werent superior=
> 
> even
> > now, then they did not deserve to be used at all. Plus Linux was writte=
> n
> from
> > scratch, even though it was derived from Minix it did not contain any
> foreign
> > source code. While the BSD's contained actual AT&T code for quite some =
> time
> > and then they built upon that when they 'migrated' to 4.4BSD. Linux has=
>  a
> more
> > open model of developement as compared to any of the BSD's. With the
> release
> > of kernel 2.4.0 for Linux, its now an official gladiator in the arena o=
> f
> > Enterprise computing (although it is already running one of the most
> heavily
> > visited sites namely google.com,freshmeat.net...). Microsoft hates Linu=
> x's
> > guts while it seems to embrace the BSD's, for this reason alone is Linu=
> x
> worth
> > using! =
> 
> > =
> 
> > This discussion could go on without an end, but my point is not to prov=
> e
> that
> > Linux is better than FreeBSD or any other BSD but to say that Linux has=
> 
> done
> > much to improve and its BETTER than NT (for some of you falmers kind in=
> fo).
> > And watch out, Linux is fast improving and *very* soon the BSD's might =
> seem
> > redundant with Linux around!
> > =
> 
> > Regards,
> > Assad Khan.
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Peter Salvage wrote:

> I'm more than happy to share the contents of the ipfw.conf and (if it would
> help) the rc.conf files off-list.

Can't you post a modified version with dummy ips? However it sounds more
as if your box needs a default gateway defined?
route add default gateway xx.xx.xx.xx

See if you can provide us with the output of 'ipfw list' and 'netstat
-rn', with ips changed or x'ed out.

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Jon Loeliger (jdl@jdl.com) wrote:

> But still, this whole /dev/ad versus /dev/wd things lingers...
> I have a mix now...  The list of devices in /dev/MAKEDEV isn't,
> uh, clear here either.
> 
> How concerned should I be?  Did I miss a step?  Is there some
> funky name correlation I missed somewhere?

You did miss a step, which is to read /usr/src/UPDATING. The relevant 
sections follow:


19991210:
	The ata driver has become the primary ata/ide/atapi driver in
	the kernel.  The wd driver is obsolete.  You should upgrade your
	machine to the new ata driver.  You will need to follow the
	directions for updating the devices in the 19991205 entry.  You
	will need to update all occurances of wd to ad in your config files
	(/etc/rc.conf, /etc/fstab, etc).  A compatibility device exists
	for wd for the time being, but once you have determined that
	ata is working for you, transition to the new ad devices.

19991205:
	Block devices are going away.  You will need to update your /dev
	tree with a fresh copy of MAKEDEV for things to always work in 
	the future.  fsck is unable to cope with dirty file systems
	after this change, so it may work for you or it may not.

	See "To rebuild disk /dev entries" at the end of the file.

	*** All uses of block devices must be converted to char devices.
	*** Likely the only thing impacted is dumpdev in /etc/rc.conf


	To rebuild disk /dev entries
	----------------------------
	MAKEDEV should be copied from src/etc/MAKEDEV to /dev before
	starting the following:

		For N in the list of disks
			MAKEDEV N			# eg ad0
			for M in the list of slices
				MAKEDEV NsMa		# eg ad0s1a

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 04:37:40PM -0600, Doug Poland wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I was just attempting to make a custom kernel when make failed.
> I'm not sure of where to go from here.  Can someone assist me
> in determining what went wrong?

[...]
> # SCSI peripherals
> #device		scbus		# SCSI bus (required)
> #device		da		# Direct Access (disks)
> #device		sa		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
> #device		cd		# CD
> #device		pass		# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
[...]
> device		umass		# Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da

Here's your problem. umass requires scsbus and da
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Steve,

You may want to have a look at a web site dedicated to disaster
recovery. As such they probably are full of suggestions.

The site is:

http://www.toms.net/rb/home.html

They have archives of info. Most directed at disaster issues. I hope
this is helpful and wish you the best with your recovery.

Mark

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:51:50PM -0500, Steve Lewis wrote:
> 
> I need help recovering a filesystem, or at least some data from it.
> 
> I am using:
> 
>  4.1-RELEASE
> 
> Machine: Compaq Deskpro 590 (Pentium 90 MHz)
> RAM: 80 MB
> HD: Maxtor 71687 AP 
> 
> I suffered a power outage at home where I have two FreeBSD systems.  One
> of them is fine.  The other seems to have developed some issues:  during
> boot, the autoboot didn't notice the unplanned reboot (odd) and so when it
> tries to boot into multi-user mode, it dies while mounting drives.
> 
> fsck dies while in phase 2 (check pathnames) of a fsck on my /usr
> partition (ad0s1f), and the machine locks up tighter than fort knox.  I am
> not that familiar with fsck, so have not used any command line options for
> fear of damaging the fs further.
> 
> I have fsck'ed the other partitions on this drive without issue, although
> a number of errors were found in the /var partition.
> 
> Can someone please refer me to a specific resource or give me some idea of
> how I might proceed to recover some of the data if I cannot repair this
> fs?
> 
> I have look at :
> Man pages and The Complete FreeBSD (old version, for FBSD 2.2.0)... the
> FreeBSD website seems to be down (or at least portions of it are) so I am
> encountering a little difficulty finding resources...
> 
> thanks
> --Steve
> 
> 
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Hey,

Thankyou in advance for any help.

I just recently switched from Slackware to FreeBSD 4.2, and i quickly 
recompiled my kernel to get my soundcard working and include tun support for 
my PCMCIA modem.

Pccard detects my modem and installs it as sio4.  I discovered the device to 
be /dev/cuaa4  I can use 'cu -l cuaa4 -s 38400 and talk to my modem.  Then i 
tried configuring user-ppp.  I set up /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and everything was 
ok, but when i try to dial nothing happens. It is like the chat script is 
not sent to my modem at all.  I tried several of the chat script examples 
but nothing.  In the config file 'set device /dev/cuaa4' was there.  Then i 
tried mannually dialing, using term and that worked beautifully.  I cannot 
figure out why the script doesn't work?  The only thing syslog says is that 
the chat script failed.  For now i can manually dial, but i would like to 
use the background feature and that requires that the ppp.conf file works.  
Another thing i noticed is that kppp can only go to cuaa3, I don't know if 
this is related?  Can you only use cuaa0-3?

Any help would really be appreciated.

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu Jan 25 16:22: 3 2001
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Howdy,

  I've got an HP697C hooked up to an NT Workstation all shared out to the 
network that I'd like to get FreeBSD printing to.  I ran through that port 
install (which was like watching a make world) and also ran the SETUP script 
for apsfilter.
  The good news is, during the SETUP it was able to do the test printing with 
little trouble.  I connected through the NT and out to the printer perfectly. 
Once all that finished up I ran the "lpc restart all" per the instructions.  
Heck, I even rebooted just in case.  The problem I'm having is that I still 
can't get any regular apps to print.
  If I go and run the apsfilter binary I get the following error.
  
rm: No such file or directory
apsfilter: can't determine the lpd spool directory
apsfilter: Please fix your lpd or stop printing to remote printers
apsfilter: directly.

  This is what is presently in my printcap file, which is what I assumed 
apsfilter was supposed to alter for me.

lp|local line printer:\
        :sh:\
        :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:
        :af=/var/spool/output/acctlpd

  I added the :af line manually due to one how-to I was reading that said it 
should have an accounting file.  I haven't a clue what this means, but in the 
interest of getting it working I guessed that it had something to do with 
logging information.  I also created that "acctlpd" file with wide open 
permissions.
  Lastly, once I actually do get all this stuff tweaked in, do I just tell my 
apps to print to lpr?  Do I need to create a device that points to the Samba 
share?  The docs seemed awfully vague on this point, and I'm just very 
confused as to what all I did wrong.

Later on,
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Is it possible to have some form of NAT running on a dialout ppp interface
so it ONLY affects traffic coming & going via a dialin ppp interface &
NOT traffic to / from the LAN ??

I've been trying to use the default NAT in user-ppp to do this but seems
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public IP's can't get to the internet.

As I understand it, NAT must be running on the external ppp interface in
order to work at all, but then how does one segregate traffic to be left
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%[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Assad Khan
%Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:48 PM

%Like I said, my point is not to argue that Linux is better
%than BSD, of course
%it is not. But is is getting there. Inspite of all the
%exploits that are to be
%found in the new kernel it is getting significantly better.
%When I ran FreeBSD
%after running Linux for about 9 months I found it to be more
%polished and well
%designed. My venting is a result of some people equating Linux
%with Windows
%NT. I am more for unity than fighting. When I joined this list
%I thought I
%would find people that appreciated Linux and its efforts,
%unfortunately it was
%otherwise. We Linux users regard BSD as a big brother to
%Linux, but you seem
%not to act that way.
%

I used to appreciate Linux's efforts, as Linux was able to do what no
other *nix could do, and that is to have mass appeal. Somehow Linux
acquired this sexy, yet underdogish aura. Now, with public appeal comes
two things, 1. resources (money, programmers, etc) and 2. the
requirement of giving the public what it wants. Now the former is
wonderful. The latter, however is what bugged me. Perhaps I am in the
minority of liking my servers lean. Which was something Linux initially
had going for it, but now... cool new features seem to have taken the
front seat over performance, stability, and most obviously security. Why
do they keep adding extra bells and whistles? Because you go down to
your local software store, and you've got what? ~15 flavors of Linux?!
And of course they all give glittering generalities like "fast, stable,
secure, blah". Now the consumer is forced to go after unique things "Now
with over 200 GUI's to choose from!", "now with 2500 password less
accounts pre set-up to save you the time and hassle of adding users!",
"Now with plug and play support of most major appliances!", etc.
In short, Linux was a good thing, and the Unix community was
appreciative.
But Linux got greedy, factions fought, brand names got muddled... and as
sad as this is... to most of the world BSD, AIX, Solaris, (etc) and
Linux are all the same. (there are two OSes in this world Windows and
other.)
So now that Linux lost it's way and the Unix community as a whole gets
to pay for it, don't expect us to be happy about it, and don't preach
about unity.
ok, enough of my bitching.



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my backgrounds are posted on x.themes.org.... search for "bsd" or "r7"

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I have noticed that no one realy makes cool FreeBSD wallpapers.... I 
have a few that i made and I was wondering if there was a site for me to 
post them on?

-thanks
Ameer Bauer


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Hi, I was wondering if there was any literature (maybe specific
to FreeBSD or in general) about the overheads of various
programming techniques etc. For eg, reducing the number of
system calls, and mapping them to Library function calls, or say
use of inline fucntions vs otherwise.

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I wasn't going to respond...i've completely ignored the FreeBSD vs Linux
thing because I don't care, I use what I like...but this caught my eye
for some reason.....

>Hi,
>
>    I have been seeing a FreeBSD-VS-Linux war on this mailing list and it
has
>disturbed me beyond tolerance. Which drove me to write this e-mail.
>
> First I want to tell everyone that I love everything thats opensource and
>free, that includes FreeBSD,Linux,OpenBSD and NetBSD. But my most loved OS
is
>Linux for the following reasons.
>  For its age Linux has gone farther than any other OS has, including
*BSD's.
>The BSD's have a history of 20+ years and you are trying to prove that its
>superior as compared to Linux? Give me a break! If they werent superior
even
>now, then they did not deserve to be used at all.

WTF is this supposed to mean?  Linux is newer and hyped more and everyone
has
jumped on the linux bandwagon.  Therefore, since BSD has been around longer
and
it's "hype" has died out, we're not to be deemed worthy of ever being
superior
against?  Christ.

Plus Linux was written from
>scratch, even though it was derived from Minix it did not contain any
foreign
>source code. While the BSD's contained actual AT&T code for quite some time
>and then they built upon that when they 'migrated' to 4.4BSD.

It was written from scratch...big deal.  What, the AT&T code that BSD
derived from
was handed down from God and said "hey, check this out...it's something I
whipped
up on that 7th day...you know, the one I was supposed to be resting on."

Linux has a more
>open model of developement as compared to any of the BSD's. With the
release
>of kernel 2.4.0 for Linux, its now an official gladiator in the arena of
>Enterprise computing (although it is already running one of the most
heavily
>visited sites namely google.com,freshmeat.net...).

More of an open model?  Sure theres no "commiters" list, but when submitting
kernel code for Linux, it would be the same thing as a non-commiter for BSD
submitting code.  Only (big) difference is that we don't send the code to 1
(or
2) people and hope that it gets included in the next version.  If I were to
make a patch, i'd send it in (or post to the hackers maling list for review)
and,
if liked, commited.  With (at least) FBSD, you more then likely have a
better chance
of getting the code commited then with linux(IMHO).

Microsoft hates Linux's
>guts while it seems to embrace the BSD's, for this reason alone is Linux
worth
>using!

no prob here, which is why i don't see the Linux vs BSD debate as worth my
time
to read :P.

>This discussion could go on without an end, but my point is not to prove
that
>Linux is better than FreeBSD or any other BSD but to say that Linux has
done
>much to improve and its BETTER than NT (for some of you falmers kind info).
>And watch out, Linux is fast improving and *very* soon the BSD's might seem
>redundant with Linux around!

Redundant....hmmm.

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Dear fellow FreeBSDers,

Has anyone successfully compiled MySQL 3.23 from the
ports
or from the source tar.gz downloaded from the MySQL
site on FreeBSD/Alpha 4.2 (using built-in threads) ?

On my system (EV6) compile fails consistently with:

c++ -DMYSQL_SERVER                    =20
-DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME=3D"\"/usr/local\""  -
DDATADIR=3D"\"/home/mysql\""                    =20
-DSHAREDIR=3D"\"/usr/local/share/m
ysql\""                         -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
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*, TABLE_LIST *, HA_CHECK_O
PT *, thr_lock_type, bool, const char *, int
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)':
sql_table.cc:1016: Internal compiler error in
`gen_reload_inhi', at ../cc_tools/
insn-emit.c:5550
Please submit a full bug report.
See <URL:http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/bugs.html>
for instructions.

On both versions: 3.23.26-beta from the ports of
3.23.32 (now stable) from the MySQL site.

I can compile this same file without any
optimization, but even -O fails (the compiler is
noisy about the fact that -O2 is strongly discouraged
at this time)

A search on the MySQL and FreeBSD sites produced no
hit about the same case. It seems than another source
file used to give internal errors at some point, but
this is not the same file. Recent 3.23 versions are
said to have workarounds for gcc 2.95.2 bugs on
Alpha.

I will report this to GNU.

I wanted to upgrade because the 3.22 version compiled
without any problem from the ports dies very
frequently with signal 11.

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at
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They didn't reall cut 'n paste.. but used the same ideas... so you can't
really exactly just grep through the code, but Linus himself has said that
that's where the ideas come from.


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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Tim McMillen wrote:

> 
> You know, everybody says this, that Linux uses the FreeBSD tcp/ip stack 
> and other things, but no one seems to verify it.  Has anyone actually 
> looked into the code?  It shouldn't be very hard to grep through the 
> code and see.  If they don't mention the copyright and they use the 
> code, then that's illegal, and I can't picture them doing that, they're 
> quite serious about their GPL, and it's implications.
> 	If they didn't actually use any of the code, but instead rewrote 
> similiar stuff, then they didn't really steal it.  At that point that's 
> no different from any other code that gets shared between the projects.
> 
> 						Tim
> 
> On Thursday January 25, 2001 16:45, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > > i am on your side just wnated to know how much of FreeBSD
> > > networking code is in 2.4?
> >
> > I'm not sure, but I think the BSD networking stuff has been in linux
> > since 2.2, I think 2.4 got a lot of FreeBSD's VM stuff. I don't know
> > how much of either is there, but I remember reading about it, and
> > I've worked in both kernels before and have seen some pretty
> > non-superficial similarities in both.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
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Please help,

Having destroyed my RH box beyond all repair, I decided to have a look at
FreeBSD.  I am informed it is closer to UNIX, an OS I am keen to get up to
speed in.  The install went sweet and I have basic ethernet support.  Now I
need to configure dial up PPP support to Arizona State University.  I have
been messing around ALL DAY trying to get it working.  To be honest I do not
know what I am doing and what settings I should have in my config files.  I
have tried everything I know but still cannot get a connection. All I get
is:

charlie# ppp asu
Working in interactive mode
Using interface: tun0
ppp ON charlie> dial
ppp ON charlie> Warning: Chat script failed
Warning: Chat script failed

ppp ON charlie>

If I use term and manually dial I authenticate fine and if I use the kppp
also.  So what is going wrong??????????  I have tried so many different
entries in set login "...." I am all out of ideas.

Please help.  Thanks,

Simon Maycock

System files:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

charlie# uname -a
FreeBSD charlie.mrhagar.com 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #0: Fri Jul 28
14:30:31 GMT 2000     jkh
@ref4.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386

charlie# cat ppp.conf
################################################################
# PPP Configuration File ('/etc/ppp/ppp.conf')
# Default settings; These are always executed always when PPP
# is invoked and apply to all system configurations.
################################################################
default:
 set device /dev/cuaa0
 set speed 57600
 disable pred1
 deny pred1
 disable lqr
 deny lqr
 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0M0 OK-AT-OK
\\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONN
ECT"
 set redial 3 10
#
#
################################################################
#
# For interactive mode use this configuration:
#
# Invoke with `ppp -alias interactive`
#
################################################################
asu:
 set login "TIMEOUT 25 Username:-\\r-Username: mrhagar Password: ZZZZZZXXXX"
 set phone 7270030
 set timeout 300
 set openmode active
 accept pap
 accept chap
 set authname mrhagar
 set authkey ZZZZZXXXXX
 set ifaddr 0 0
 add default HISADDR
# set ifaddr 127.1.1.1/0 127.2.2.2/0 255.255.255.0
# add 0 0 127.2.2.2
 ################################################################
 # End of /etc/ppp/ppp.conf



charlie# cat ppp.linkup
#########################################################################=
#
# PPP Link Up File ('/etc/ppp/ppp.linkup')
#
#  This file is checked after PPP establishes a network connection.
#
#  This file is searched in the following order.
#
#  1) First, the IP address assigned to us is searched and
#     the associated command(s) are executed.
#
#  2) If the IP Address is not found, then the label name specified at

#     PPP startup time is searched and the associated command(s)
#     are executed.
#
#  3) If neither of the above are found then commands under the label
#     'MYADDR:' are executed.
#
#########################################################################=

#
# This section is used for the "demand" configuration in
#   /etc/ppp/ppp.conf:
asu:
 delete ALL
 add 0 0 HISADDR
#
# All other configurations in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf use this:
#
MYADDR:
 add 0 0 HISADDR
########################################################################
# End of /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup



charlie# cat /var/log/ppp.log
Jan 25 18:27:38 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: bundle: Establish
Jan 25 18:27:38 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening
Jan 25 18:27:38 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 25 18:27:38 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 25 18:28:20 charlie ppp[342]: Warning: Chat script failed
Jan 25 18:28:20 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
Jan 25 18:28:20 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 25 18:28:20 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 42 secs: 0
octets in, 0 octets out
Jan 25 18:28:20 charlie ppp[342]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:28:20
 2001
Jan 25 18:28:20 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
Jan 25 18:28:20 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
redialing.
Jan 25 18:28:23 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 25 18:28:23 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: dial -> logout
Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: logout -> hangup
Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 28 secs: 0
octets in, 0 octets out
Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:28:51
 2001
Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> closed
Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: bundle: Dead
Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal).
Jan 25 18:51:54 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: Using interface: tun0
Jan 25 18:51:54 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state
Jan 25 18:51:55 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: PPP Started (interactive mode).
Jan 25 18:52:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: bundle: Establish
Jan 25 18:52:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening
Jan 25 18:52:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 25 18:52:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 25 18:52:43 charlie ppp[238]: Warning: Chat script failed
Jan 25 18:52:43 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
Jan 25 18:52:43 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 25 18:52:43 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 43 secs: 0
octets in, 0 octets out
Jan 25 18:52:43 charlie ppp[238]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:52:43
 2001
Jan 25 18:52:43 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
Jan 25 18:52:43 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
redialing.
Jan 25 18:52:46 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 25 18:52:46 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 25 18:53:29 charlie ppp[238]: Warning: Chat script failed
Jan 25 18:53:29 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
Jan 25 18:53:29 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 25 18:53:29 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 43 secs: 0
octets in, 0 octets out
Jan 25 18:53:29 charlie ppp[238]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:53:29
 2001
Jan 25 18:53:29 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
Jan 25 18:53:29 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
redialing.
Jan 25 18:53:32 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 25 18:53:32 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 25 18:54:14 charlie ppp[238]: Warning: Chat script failed
Jan 25 18:54:14 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
Jan 25 18:54:14 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 25 18:54:14 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 42 secs: 0
octets in, 0 octets out
Jan 25 18:54:14 charlie ppp[238]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:54:14
 2001
Jan 25 18:54:14 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
Jan 25 18:54:14 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
redialing.
Jan 25 18:54:17 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 25 18:54:17 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 25 18:55:00 charlie ppp[238]: Warning: Chat script failed
Jan 25 18:55:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
Jan 25 18:55:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 25 18:55:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 43 secs: 0
octets in, 0 octets out
Jan 25 18:55:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:55:00
 2001
Jan 25 18:55:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
Jan 25 18:55:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
redialing.
Jan 25 18:55:03 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 25 18:55:03 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 25 18:55:45 charlie ppp[238]: Warning: Chat script failed
Jan 25 18:55:45 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
Jan 25 18:55:45 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 25 18:55:45 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 42 secs: 0
octets in, 0 octets out
Jan 25 18:55:45 charlie ppp[238]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:55:45
 2001
Jan 25 18:55:45 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
Jan 25 18:55:45 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
redialing.
Jan 25 18:55:48 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 25 18:55:48 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: dial -> logout
Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: logout -> hangup
Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 1 secs: 0
octets in, 0 octets out
Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:55:49
 2001
Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> closed
Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: bundle: Dead
Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal).

charlie# netstat -rn
Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags      Netif Expire
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          1       26      lo0
192.168            link#1             UC          0        0     fxp0 =>
192.168.0.1        0:d0:b7:c0:f5:4b   UHLW        2      677     fxp0   1196
192.168.0.201      0:a0:c9:42:ee:9a   UHLW        0       16      lo0

Internet6:
Destination                       Gateway                       Flags
Netif Expire
::1                               ::1                           UH
lo0
fe80::%fxp0/64                    link#1                        UC
fxp0
fe80::%lo0/64                     fe80::1%lo0                   Uc
lo0
fe80::%tun0/64                    link#11                       UC
tun0
fe80::2a0:c9ff:fe42:ee9a%tun0     ::1                           UH
lo0
ff01::/32                         ::1                           U
lo0
ff02::%fxp0/32                    link#1                        UC
fxp0
ff02::%lo0/32                     fe80::1%lo0                   UC
lo0
ff02::%tun0/32                    link#11                       UC
tun0



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"Mike Thompson" <mike.thomson@onlinecables.com> wrote:
>I used to appreciate Linux's efforts, as Linux was able to do what no
>other *nix could do, and that is to have mass appeal. Somehow Linux
>acquired this sexy, yet underdogish aura. Now, with public appeal comes
>two things, 1. resources (money, programmers, etc) and 2. the
>requirement of giving the public what it wants. Now the former is
>wonderful. The latter, however is what bugged me. Perhaps I am in the
>minority of liking my servers lean. Which was something Linux initially
>had going for it, but now... cool new features seem to have taken the
>front seat over performance, stability, and most obviously security. Why=

>do they keep adding extra bells and whistles? Because you go down to
>your local software store, and you've got what? ~15 flavors of Linux?!
>And of course they all give glittering generalities like "fast, stable,
>secure, blah". Now the consumer is forced to go after unique things "Now=

>with over 200 GUI's to choose from!", "now with 2500 password less
>accounts pre set-up to save you the time and hassle of adding users!",
>"Now with plug and play support of most major appliances!", etc.
>In short, Linux was a good thing, and the Unix community was
>appreciative.
>But Linux got greedy, factions fought, brand names got muddled... and as=

>sad as this is... to most of the world BSD, AIX, Solaris, (etc) and
>Linux are all the same. (there are two OSes in this world Windows and
>other.)
>So now that Linux lost it's way and the Unix community as a whole gets
>to pay for it, don't expect us to be happy about it, and don't preach
>about unity.
>ok, enough of my bitching.

Yes, you are absolutely right, Linux has indeed gotten greedy. Distributi=
ons
like Red Hat, Mandrake and SuSE have divided Linux into their own OS's. T=
hey
hardly look like the same basic OS when you move from one distro to anoth=
er.
Heck SuSE even changed the FH (Filesystem Hierarchy) which is not helping=

Linux the Linux cause at all, it may even be harming it when you consider=
 its
long range effects. Commercial developers will not write many apps for Li=
nux
due to the above mentioned fact. The only distro's worth using are Debian=

Linux and Slackware Linux which I must admit are more like UNIX hence the=
ir
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greg simonoff <gsimonoff@geocities.com> types:
> How can block special file - which the way
> I understand it is just an inode with the major and minor
> numbers in it be read?  Is there a utility for doing
> that?

cat, dd, etc. You might want to try /dev/rda0<stuff>.

> dmesg shows that my external scsi drive is recognized -
> it is even correctly identified, but I can't get disklabel to
> return anything.  If disklabel can't read the disk label
> then I can't even get to the point were I can reformat
> it and add a new file system.  Is that right?

You can't read one until you've written one on it. If you're willing
to lose the data on the disk - or have no data on it - you can use
"disklabel -w -r /dev/da0 auto to put a label on da0. You then need to
do "sh MAKEDEV da0h" to create the partitions on the disk (no slices
at all). If you want to use MS-style slices, use fdisk first, then use
disklabel on /dev/da0s#, for # being 1, 2, 3, or 4.

	<mike

> Mike Meyer wrote:
> 
> > greg simonoff <gsimonoff@geocities.com> types:
> > >     I',m trying to mount a SunOS/external drive onto a FreeBSD system
> > > using a 50 pin cable.  The FreeBSD system sees the drive - ids it as
> > > Seagate - gets the right size and names it as "da0".  This all shows up
> > > in the dmesg.  The FreeBSD manuals say to mount drives that are foreign
> > > like this as /dev/da1s1e where the s means mdos and the e is a slice of
> > > a physical partition.
> >
> > The part about 's' isn't true. Could you please let us know which
> > manual says that, so we can do soemthing about fixing it.
> >
> > > In the /dev directory there are nodes for
> > > /dev/da1 but not "/dev/da1s1e".  There is a make file for creating
> > > nodes, but the make makes guess what?  That's right the nodes that are
> > > already exist.  How do you use mknode to make this inode?  What should
> > > the major and minor numbers be?
> >
> > Try doing "sh MAKEDEV da1s1e" in /dev; that should make the device
> > entries for you.
> >
> > >     It would be alot of help to know what the fstab entry for this dirve
> > > should look like.
> >
> > That depends on the layout of the drive. Does it use MSDOS slices at
> > all? Can you read the disklabel off of it, or do you know what it was
> > on SunOS?
> >
> > It's not at all clear that you can do what you're trying to do. SunOS
> > usually refers to the BSD-based versions of Sun's OS, but that doesn't
> > mean the file systems will be the same. The file system has changed
> > quit a bit since Sun forked the code.
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So I setup pptpclient-1.0.2 on my -stable box and am having issues with it. =

It appears that the ppp process is receiving a SIGTERM immediately after it =

brings the link up.  I have no idea why this was happening and was =
wondering if someone might enlighten me?

ppp log is as follows:

Jan 25 21:25:24 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: Using interface: tun0
Jan 25 21:25:24 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state
Jan 25 21:25:24 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: PPP Started (direct mode).
Jan 25 21:25:24 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: bundle: Establish
Jan 25 21:25:24 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening
Jan 25 21:25:24 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 25 21:25:24 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: deflink: opening -> carrier
Jan 25 21:25:25 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: deflink: carrier -> lcp
Jan 25 21:25:26 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: bundle: Authenticate
Jan 25 21:25:26 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: deflink: his =3D CHAP 0x81, mine =
=3D =
none
Jan 25 21:25:26 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: Chap Input: CHALLENGE (16 bytes =
from PPTP)
Jan 25 21:25:26 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: Chap Output: RESPONSE (XXXX)
Jan 25 21:25:26 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: Chap Input: SUCCESS =
(S=3D0D8E12F023C01E0E69541D8EF394925D2B477C63)
Jan 25 21:25:26 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open
Jan 25 21:25:26 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: bundle: Network
Jan 25 21:25:27 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: Signal 15, terminate.
Jan 25 21:25:43 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: bundle: Terminate
Jan 25 21:25:43 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: deflink: open -> lcp
Jan 25 21:25:58 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 25 21:25:58 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 34 secs: =
457 octets in, 1125755 octets out
Jan 25 21:25:58 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: deflink: : 14 packets in, 1599 =
packets out
Jan 25 21:25:58 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase:  total 33123 bytes/sec, peak =
228153 bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 21:25:58 2001
Jan 25 21:25:58 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: deflink: lcp -> closed
Jan 25 21:25:58 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: bundle: Dead
Jan 25 21:25:58 enigma ppp[2710]: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal).

The config file used is just the sample file with the tag, username, etc =
filled in.

Any ideas would be appreciated.  Please cc me any responses as I do not =
subscribe to -questions (volume issues).


-Matt
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For really basic ppp setup info, have a look at
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon "Hagar" Maycock" <hagar@inficad.com>
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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:23 PM
Subject: UsePPP configuration.


> Please help,
>
> Having destroyed my RH box beyond all repair, I decided to have a look at
> FreeBSD.  I am informed it is closer to UNIX, an OS I am keen to get up to
> speed in.  The install went sweet and I have basic ethernet support.  Now
I
> need to configure dial up PPP support to Arizona State University.  I have
> been messing around ALL DAY trying to get it working.  To be honest I do
not
> know what I am doing and what settings I should have in my config files.
I
> have tried everything I know but still cannot get a connection. All I get
> is:
>
> charlie# ppp asu
> Working in interactive mode
> Using interface: tun0
> ppp ON charlie> dial
> ppp ON charlie> Warning: Chat script failed
> Warning: Chat script failed
>
> ppp ON charlie>
>
> If I use term and manually dial I authenticate fine and if I use the kppp
> also.  So what is going wrong??????????  I have tried so many different
> entries in set login "...." I am all out of ideas.
>
> Please help.  Thanks,
>
> Simon Maycock
>
> System files:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> charlie# uname -a
> FreeBSD charlie.mrhagar.com 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #0: Fri Jul 28
> 14:30:31 GMT 2000     jkh
> @ref4.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386
>
> charlie# cat ppp.conf
> ################################################################
> # PPP Configuration File ('/etc/ppp/ppp.conf')
> # Default settings; These are always executed always when PPP
> # is invoked and apply to all system configurations.
> ################################################################
> default:
>  set device /dev/cuaa0
>  set speed 57600
>  disable pred1
>  deny pred1
>  disable lqr
>  deny lqr
>  set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0M0 OK-AT-OK
> \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONN
> ECT"
>  set redial 3 10
> #
> #
> ################################################################
> #
> # For interactive mode use this configuration:
> #
> # Invoke with `ppp -alias interactive`
> #
> ################################################################
> asu:
>  set login "TIMEOUT 25 Username:-\\r-Username: mrhagar Password:
ZZZZZZXXXX"
>  set phone 7270030
>  set timeout 300
>  set openmode active
>  accept pap
>  accept chap
>  set authname mrhagar
>  set authkey ZZZZZXXXXX
>  set ifaddr 0 0
>  add default HISADDR
> # set ifaddr 127.1.1.1/0 127.2.2.2/0 255.255.255.0
> # add 0 0 127.2.2.2
>  ################################################################
>  # End of /etc/ppp/ppp.conf
>
>
>
> charlie# cat ppp.linkup
> #########################################################################=
> #
> # PPP Link Up File ('/etc/ppp/ppp.linkup')
> #
> #  This file is checked after PPP establishes a network connection.
> #
> #  This file is searched in the following order.
> #
> #  1) First, the IP address assigned to us is searched and
> #     the associated command(s) are executed.
> #
> #  2) If the IP Address is not found, then the label name specified at
>
> #     PPP startup time is searched and the associated command(s)
> #     are executed.
> #
> #  3) If neither of the above are found then commands under the label
> #     'MYADDR:' are executed.
> #
> #########################################################################=
>
> #
> # This section is used for the "demand" configuration in
> #   /etc/ppp/ppp.conf:
> asu:
>  delete ALL
>  add 0 0 HISADDR
> #
> # All other configurations in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf use this:
> #
> MYADDR:
>  add 0 0 HISADDR
> ########################################################################
> # End of /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup
>
>
>
> charlie# cat /var/log/ppp.log
> Jan 25 18:27:38 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: bundle: Establish
> Jan 25 18:27:38 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening
> Jan 25 18:27:38 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
> Jan 25 18:27:38 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
> Jan 25 18:28:20 charlie ppp[342]: Warning: Chat script failed
> Jan 25 18:28:20 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
> Jan 25 18:28:20 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
> Jan 25 18:28:20 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 42 secs: 0
> octets in, 0 octets out
> Jan 25 18:28:20 charlie ppp[342]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
> bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:28:20
>  2001
> Jan 25 18:28:20 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
> Jan 25 18:28:20 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
> redialing.
> Jan 25 18:28:23 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
> Jan 25 18:28:23 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
> Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
> Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: dial -> logout
> Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: logout -> hangup
> Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
> Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 28 secs: 0
> octets in, 0 octets out
> Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
> bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:28:51
>  2001
> Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> closed
> Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: bundle: Dead
> Jan 25 18:28:51 charlie ppp[342]: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal).
> Jan 25 18:51:54 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: Using interface: tun0
> Jan 25 18:51:54 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state
> Jan 25 18:51:55 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: PPP Started (interactive mode).
> Jan 25 18:52:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: bundle: Establish
> Jan 25 18:52:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening
> Jan 25 18:52:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
> Jan 25 18:52:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
> Jan 25 18:52:43 charlie ppp[238]: Warning: Chat script failed
> Jan 25 18:52:43 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
> Jan 25 18:52:43 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
> Jan 25 18:52:43 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 43 secs: 0
> octets in, 0 octets out
> Jan 25 18:52:43 charlie ppp[238]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
> bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:52:43
>  2001
> Jan 25 18:52:43 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
> Jan 25 18:52:43 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
> redialing.
> Jan 25 18:52:46 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
> Jan 25 18:52:46 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
> Jan 25 18:53:29 charlie ppp[238]: Warning: Chat script failed
> Jan 25 18:53:29 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
> Jan 25 18:53:29 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
> Jan 25 18:53:29 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 43 secs: 0
> octets in, 0 octets out
> Jan 25 18:53:29 charlie ppp[238]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
> bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:53:29
>  2001
> Jan 25 18:53:29 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
> Jan 25 18:53:29 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
> redialing.
> Jan 25 18:53:32 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
> Jan 25 18:53:32 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
> Jan 25 18:54:14 charlie ppp[238]: Warning: Chat script failed
> Jan 25 18:54:14 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
> Jan 25 18:54:14 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
> Jan 25 18:54:14 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 42 secs: 0
> octets in, 0 octets out
> Jan 25 18:54:14 charlie ppp[238]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
> bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:54:14
>  2001
> Jan 25 18:54:14 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
> Jan 25 18:54:14 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
> redialing.
> Jan 25 18:54:17 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
> Jan 25 18:54:17 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
> Jan 25 18:55:00 charlie ppp[238]: Warning: Chat script failed
> Jan 25 18:55:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
> Jan 25 18:55:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
> Jan 25 18:55:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 43 secs: 0
> octets in, 0 octets out
> Jan 25 18:55:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
> bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:55:00
>  2001
> Jan 25 18:55:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
> Jan 25 18:55:00 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
> redialing.
> Jan 25 18:55:03 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
> Jan 25 18:55:03 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
> Jan 25 18:55:45 charlie ppp[238]: Warning: Chat script failed
> Jan 25 18:55:45 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
> Jan 25 18:55:45 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
> Jan 25 18:55:45 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 42 secs: 0
> octets in, 0 octets out
> Jan 25 18:55:45 charlie ppp[238]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
> bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:55:45
>  2001
> Jan 25 18:55:45 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
> Jan 25 18:55:45 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
> redialing.
> Jan 25 18:55:48 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
> Jan 25 18:55:48 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
> Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
> Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: dial -> logout
> Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: logout -> hangup
> Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
> Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 1 secs: 0
> octets in, 0 octets out
> Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
> bytes/sec on Thu Jan 25 18:55:49
>  2001
> Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> closed
> Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: bundle: Dead
> Jan 25 18:55:49 charlie ppp[238]: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal).
>
> charlie# netstat -rn
> Routing tables
>
> Internet:
> Destination        Gateway            Flags      Netif Expire
> 127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          1       26      lo0
> 192.168            link#1             UC          0        0     fxp0 =>
> 192.168.0.1        0:d0:b7:c0:f5:4b   UHLW        2      677     fxp0
1196
> 192.168.0.201      0:a0:c9:42:ee:9a   UHLW        0       16      lo0
>
> Internet6:
> Destination                       Gateway                       Flags
> Netif Expire
> ::1                               ::1                           UH
> lo0
> fe80::%fxp0/64                    link#1                        UC
> fxp0
> fe80::%lo0/64                     fe80::1%lo0                   Uc
> lo0
> fe80::%tun0/64                    link#11                       UC
> tun0
> fe80::2a0:c9ff:fe42:ee9a%tun0     ::1                           UH
> lo0
> ff01::/32                         ::1                           U
> lo0
> ff02::%fxp0/32                    link#1                        UC
> fxp0
> ff02::%lo0/32                     fe80::1%lo0                   UC
> lo0
> ff02::%tun0/32                    link#11                       UC
> tun0
>
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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:34:53AM -0800, richd@pathlink.net wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> I tried looking through your web site but wasn't able to locate
> anything specific for this. Would you offer any type of courses or
> training specifically for FreeBSD? If so, anything available in the
> San Jose, CA area, or if you had any recommendations that would be
> appreciated.

I believe BSDi offers training packages. Check out www.bsdi.com

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:56:37PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> I only need a little advise on source synchronization.
>=20
> Could someone kindly tell me what might have happened if you cvsup today
> and your buildworld breaks, but you cvsup 2morrow and it goes OK? Is it
> because we're all humans and are prone to err?

Yes, build problems do creep in from time to time. Your best bet is to
subscribe to the freebsd-stable mailing list and look for reports of
build trouble.

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 03:49:32PM -0600, Jon Loeliger wrote:

> When I installed the whole mess originally, I had two
> Western Digital 1G Caviar drives hanging around the house
> (Yes, back then dirt still _was_ rocks!).  And I installed
> both those drives just fine.  Now I expected them to show
> up as /dev/wd's.  Nah.  They showed up as /dev/ad's.

wd is now ad with the new ATA driver. Make all the changes
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'cd /dev && sh MAKEDEV all' (if you have more than 2 IDE
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I think this is all covered in /usr/src/UPDATING

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Hello,

I am currently running Linux Mandrake 7.1 and have become disappointed
with the performance of Linux on my system.  It appears to be somewhat
sluggish at times and slow to respond to various web/ftp queries.

We are developing an Internet application, and from what information
that I can find, FreeBSD was built to handle large user loads and is
supposed to be more stable than Linux which is what we are looking for.

One of our test machines is an Intel Pentium 500Mhz with 128-Meg ram,
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What I am wondering before I decide to switch over the FreeBSD from my
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I have installed FreeBSD 3.4 on an IBM PS/1 Expert for a project I am 
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Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> 
> I only need a little advise on source synchronization.
> 
> Could someone kindly tell me what might have happened if you cvsup today
> and your buildworld breaks, but you cvsup 2morrow and it goes OK? Is it
> because we're all humans and are prone to err?

One thing that no one has pointed out. Your comment on syncronization
says it all. We typically use server mirror's and not the main site.
You can always time it such that a you grab the source in the middle
of an update sequence and you need the whole thing to work. I was
always told to re-cvsup in an hour and see if the problem is still
there. If it is, look at the cvs-all messages. In my case, I use a
script that generats HTML from my cvsup.log and it points back to
cvsweb.cgi. You usually have an idea who broke -stable :). I still
don't spend time doing that until the second cvsup, up to an hour
later than the first, also fails.

Kent

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I'm trying to delete Netscape 6 for Linux.
I don't think I can do this with pkg_delete, I need to use rpm.
Is there a special way I need to do this?

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:44:51PM -0600, Steve Price wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:32:20PM -0600, Joe Guetler wrote:
> >=20
> >     Now I could be waaaaay off on this, but could it be that the box you
> > are trying to run the ftp server on is pointing to a bad dns server with
> > bad or no reverse-lookup tables?
>=20
> I'd have to say that you were spot on. :)  I just noticed that
> the box in question which is running a caching-only named wasn't
> using the primary DNS server for the domain that it is in as its
> first choice to forward requests to.  I moved it to the first one
> in the list and voila connections times are down around a couple
> of seconds.  Thanks for the suggestion.

Hehe. Since this problem comes up approximately every 10 seconds on
the lists, perhaps you could write up a FAQ entry on the topic?

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:58:39PM -0500, Erik Rothwell wrote:
> Hi folks,
>=20
> I just had a couple of questions regarding XFree86 4.0.2:
>=20
> 1. At this point, is it worth the upgrade from 3.3.whatever that comes
> standard wtih 4.2-RELEASE? What are the benefits of upgrading?=20

In general, "hell yeah". Much improved stability and fewer bugs
(inc. security bugs). Plus feature improvements you can read about in
the various release notes.

OTOH, if your 3.3 is working to your satisfaction then there's no
immediate necessity.

> 2. I really, really would like anti-aliased fonts :-) I'm a bit of an
> aesthetic nut and I think that'd really improve the overall X Windows
> experience, if yanno what I mean :-)=20
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> But, I'm unsure from everything I've read about the XFree86 4.02
> rendering engine whether or not *all TT fonts* are *always* antialiased
> or just fonts in certain "AA enabled" applications (if that makes any
> sense)...

I believe the application needs to be AA-enabled (for dynamically
linked applications using a toolkit like QT, probably having the
toolkit enabled is enough).

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At 10:09 PM -0500 1/25/01, Lonnie wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I am currently running Linux Mandrake 7.1 and have become disappointed
>with the performance of Linux on my system.  It appears to be somewhat
>sluggish at times and slow to respond to various web/ftp queries.
>
>We are developing an Internet application, and from what information
>that I can find, FreeBSD was built to handle large user loads and is
>supposed to be more stable than Linux which is what we are looking for.
>
>One of our test machines is an Intel Pentium 500Mhz with 128-Meg ram,
>16Meg 3dfx VooDoo3  AGP video card, 27.3 GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive, with a
>Ultra ATA 66 controller.
>
>What I am wondering before I decide to switch over the FreeBSD from my
>current Linux, is if FreeBSD will run on this machine setup.  There
>appears to be a problem with the new versions of Mandrake 7.2 supporting
>this setup and to make things run would require much modifications
>before it could get installed.
>
>I would also presume that we could still do our standard web
>developments using FreeBSD as it should have similiar c++ library
>headers as Linux GCC and I am also guessing that MySQL can be installed
>as well?




Your development environment will be the same re C++, gcc, perl, tcl, 
and all other open source Unix utilities.  Your source code should 
compile on either platform with no conversion problems.  Mysql runs 
perfectly well on FreeBSD although for a large production application 
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Please CC me on any replies.  TIA.

I'm trying to keep everying on my 4.2-STABLE system failry up to date.
I have something going on with the ports that I do not understand.

I've RTFM but I'm fuzzy on CVS and I'm more or less just following the
instructions.  (Sorry Greg, your CVS section didn't help me either.)

When I manually add the files to the ports directory (all that seems to
exist is an HTML file) I can build the port.  The latest one is
etherboot that I'm playing with.

The problem that I do not understand is, when I do the next CVS run, it
seems to delete everything I just added to the /usr/ports.... directory.

I've transcribed my supfile below.  My undetstanding was cvs-all would
bring down "everything" (including the ports.)
Any helo would be appreciated since I would not even call my self a CVS
novice.
Cheers...

# usr/src/hercules-supfile
*default host=cvsup3.freebsd.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
cvs-all

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Doug,

Thanks for the suggestion, but alas no luck.  I used the ppp_script just to
see what it did.  It appears just to have taken out some of the set
statements I dragged of the internet over the course of the day!!!  I
nolonger get the Chat script error, but still only get a 15s connect and no
functionality.  I have taken the libity of attaching the new files so if you
have any good ideas, please feel free to make suggestions...I am going out
of my mind with frustation!!!  I have read so much, purchased the Walnut
Creek book and still no joy.  I am sure this is just a script problem as I
can connect manually no problem as follows...

charlie# ppp ASU
Working in interactive mode
Using interface: tun0
Warning: Carrier: Invalid log value
Warning: Usage: set log [local]
[+|-]async|cbcp|ccp|chat|command|connect|debug|dns|hdlc|id0|ipcp|lcp
|lqm|phase|physical|sync|tcp/ip|timer|tun...
ppp ON charlie> term
deflink: Entering terminal mode on /dev/cuaa0
Type `~?' for help
atdt7270030
CONNECT 28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS

*** I HAVE TO PRESS RETURN HERE TO GET USERNAME PROMPT: ****

User Access Verification

Username: mrhagar
Password:


AS5100F>ping general.asu.edu
Translating "general.asu.edu"...domain server (129.219.17.5) [OK]
Translating "general.asu.edu"...domain server (129.219.17.5) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 129.219.10.243, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!!!!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/7/20 ms
AS5100F>


BUT using the scripts below...................

Before I "dial" only the CS light is on, on the modem (USR 56K Ext
Sportster). When I "dial" the TR light comes on.  For about 30s the RX TX
lights flicker and eventually the CD lights. After another 30s I hear the
line drop and only the CS remains lit.  All I see is

charlie# ppp ASU
Working in interactive mode
Using interface: tun0
Warning: Carrier: Invalid log value
Warning: Usage: set log [local]
[+|-]async|cbcp|ccp|chat|command|connect|debug|dns|hdlc|id0|ipcp|lcp
|lqm|phase|physical|sync|tcp/ip|timer|tun...
ppp ON charlie> dial
ppp ON charlie>

Should there be a connected message or something?

Script generated ppp.conf with gin: changed to name: (Username:)

default:
  set log Phase Chat Connect Carrier lcp ipcp ccp command
  set device /dev/cuaa0
  set speed 115200
  set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK
\\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNE
CT"
ASU:
  set phone "7270030"        #Separate multiple phone numbers with a |
  set login "TIMEOUT 10 name:-BREAK-name: mrhagar word: XXXYYY"
  set timeout 300            #Change to 0 if no timeout desired
  deny lqr
  set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0

charlie# cat host.conf
hosts
bind

charlie# cat hosts
127.0.0.1     localhost
10.0.0.1      charlie.mrhagar.com               charlie

charlie# cat resolv.conf
nameserver 129.219.13.81
nameserver 129.219.17.200
domain mrhagar.com

charlie# cat rc.conf
# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf
# please make all changes to this file.

# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- #
ifconfig_fxp0="inet 192.168.0.201  netmask 255.255.255.0"
hostname="charlie.mrhagar.com"
linux_enable="YES"
moused_enable="YES"
defaultrouter=""
nfs_server_enable="YES"
ntpdate_flags="clock.llnl.gov"
ntpdate_enable="YES"
gateway_enable="YES"

charlie# cat ppp.linkup
MYADDR:
  delete ALL
  add 0 0 HISADDR

charlie# netstat -nr
Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags      Netif Expire
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          1       26      lo0
192.168            link#1             UC          0        0     fxp0 =>
192.168.0.1        0:d0:b7:c0:f5:4b   UHLW        2      659     fxp0   1066

Internet6:
Destination                       Gateway                       Flags
Netif Expire
::1                               ::1                           UH
lo0
fe80::%fxp0/64                    link#1                        UC
fxp0
fe80::%lo0/64                     fe80::1%lo0                   Uc
lo0
fe80::%tun0/64                    link#11                       UC
tun0
fe80::2a0:c9ff:fe42:ee9a%tun0     ::1                           UH
lo0
ff01::/32                         ::1                           U
lo0
ff02::%fxp0/32                    link#1                        UC
fxp0
ff02::%lo0/32                     fe80::1%lo0                   UC
lo0
ff02::%tun0/32                    link#11                       UC
tun0


Any help will be most helpful...otherwise it is back to RH LInux.

Simon



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Tom Parquette (tparquet@twcny.rr.com) wrote:

> I've transcribed my supfile below.  My undetstanding was cvs-all would
> bring down "everything" (including the ports.)
> Any helo would be appreciated since I would not even call my self a CVS
> novice.
> Cheers...
> 
> # usr/src/hercules-supfile
> *default host=cvsup3.freebsd.org
> *default base=/usr
> *default prefix=/usr
> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
> *default delete use-rel-suffix
> *default compress
> cvs-all

There is only one branch of the ports collection, the "current"
branch.  Your supfile is probably acquiring the ports collection
from the "RELENG_4" branch, which is non-existent for the ports.
You normally acquire ports from cvs by requesting ports-all, with
a tag=.

I usually request exactly what I need, rather than using the cvs-all 
collection. My 4.x-STABLE supfile looks exactly like yours, but instead
of the "cvs-all" line, I have this:

src-all
doc-all
ports-all tag=.

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That's an easy one.

Replace the line: 
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
with:
*default release=cvs tag=.
That is how is appears in 
/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
The following is from the example file for stable in
/usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
########################################################
#
# DANGER!  WARNING!  LOOK OUT!  VORSICHT!
#
# If you add any of the ports collections to this file, be sure to
# specify them like this:
#
#   ports-all tag=.
#
# If you leave out the "tag=." portion, CVSup will delete all of
# the files in your ports tree.  That is because the ports collections
# do not use the same tags as the main part of the FreeBSD source tree.
#
#########################################################







Tom Parquette <tparquet@twcny.rr.com>
Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
01/25/2001 08:26 PM

 
        To:     freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
        cc: 
        Subject:        CVS deleting ports?

Please CC me on any replies.  TIA.

I'm trying to keep everying on my 4.2-STABLE system failry up to date.
I have something going on with the ports that I do not understand.

I've RTFM but I'm fuzzy on CVS and I'm more or less just following the
instructions.  (Sorry Greg, your CVS section didn't help me either.)

When I manually add the files to the ports directory (all that seems to
exist is an HTML file) I can build the port.  The latest one is
etherboot that I'm playing with.

The problem that I do not understand is, when I do the next CVS run, it
seems to delete everything I just added to the /usr/ports.... directory.

I've transcribed my supfile below.  My undetstanding was cvs-all would
bring down "everything" (including the ports.)
Any helo would be appreciated since I would not even call my self a CVS
novice.
Cheers...

# usr/src/hercules-supfile
*default host=cvsup3.freebsd.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
cvs-all

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Oops , foot in mouth makes it hard to type.

Leave *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 as it is.
change cvs-all to:
src-all
doc-all
ports-all tag=.





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        To:     Tom Parquette <tparquet@twcny.rr.com>
        cc:     freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
        Subject:        Re: CVS deleting ports?

That's an easy one.

Replace the line: 
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
with:
*default release=cvs tag=.
That is how is appears in 
/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
The following is from the example file for stable in
/usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
########################################################
#
# DANGER!  WARNING!  LOOK OUT!  VORSICHT!
#
# If you add any of the ports collections to this file, be sure to
# specify them like this:
#
#   ports-all tag=.
#
# If you leave out the "tag=." portion, CVSup will delete all of
# the files in your ports tree.  That is because the ports collections
# do not use the same tags as the main part of the FreeBSD source tree.
#
#########################################################







Tom Parquette <tparquet@twcny.rr.com>
Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
01/25/2001 08:26 PM

 
        To:     freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
        cc: 
        Subject:        CVS deleting ports?

Please CC me on any replies.  TIA.

I'm trying to keep everying on my 4.2-STABLE system failry up to date.
I have something going on with the ports that I do not understand.

I've RTFM but I'm fuzzy on CVS and I'm more or less just following the
instructions.  (Sorry Greg, your CVS section didn't help me either.)

When I manually add the files to the ports directory (all that seems to
exist is an HTML file) I can build the port.  The latest one is
etherboot that I'm playing with.

The problem that I do not understand is, when I do the next CVS run, it
seems to delete everything I just added to the /usr/ports.... directory.

I've transcribed my supfile below.  My undetstanding was cvs-all would
bring down "everything" (including the ports.)
Any helo would be appreciated since I would not even call my self a CVS
novice.
Cheers...

# usr/src/hercules-supfile
*default host=cvsup3.freebsd.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
cvs-all

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well, I didn't mean for it to be a flame or a holy war, I just wanted to
set the facts straight.


=================================================================
| Kenneth Culver              | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade    |
| Unix Systems Administrator  | ICQ #: 24767726                 |
| and student at The          | AIM: muythaibxr                 |
| The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction)   |
| College Park.	              | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/|
=================================================================

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, SpaZ wrote:

> ARGGGGGGGHHHAAAAA.........
> 
> I guess I can't stop this flame/holy war between bsd-linux linux-windows
> bsd-windows......but I can put in my buck twenty.
> 
> Use what is good for you.  aka      "To each his own"
> 
> I use NT, 2000,. and FreeBSD.  I have my reasons, why?  No of your biz, 2000
> for my laptop for stability and compatibility at all my clients, NT for
> small office servers, and FreeBSD for my web hosting company.
> 
> Why I don't use Linux.....not since college......tooo many changes....
> 
> 
> Spaz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kenneth Wayne Culver <culverk@wam.umd.edu>
> To: Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu>
> Cc: <GLOBALLINK2001@aol.com>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 8:20 PM
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD-VS-Linux---Some Venting from Linux's side!
> 
> 
> > They didn't reall cut 'n paste.. but used the same ideas... so you can't
> > really exactly just grep through the code, but Linus himself has said that
> > that's where the ideas come from.
> >
> >
> > =================================================================
> > | Kenneth Culver              | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade    |
> > | Unix Systems Administrator  | ICQ #: 24767726                 |
> > | and student at The          | AIM: muythaibxr                 |
> > | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction)   |
> > | College Park.               | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/|
> > =================================================================
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Tim McMillen wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > You know, everybody says this, that Linux uses the FreeBSD tcp/ip stack
> > > and other things, but no one seems to verify it.  Has anyone actually
> > > looked into the code?  It shouldn't be very hard to grep through the
> > > code and see.  If they don't mention the copyright and they use the
> > > code, then that's illegal, and I can't picture them doing that, they're
> > > quite serious about their GPL, and it's implications.
> > > If they didn't actually use any of the code, but instead rewrote
> > > similiar stuff, then they didn't really steal it.  At that point that's
> > > no different from any other code that gets shared between the projects.
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > On Thursday January 25, 2001 16:45, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > > > > i am on your side just wnated to know how much of FreeBSD
> > > > > networking code is in 2.4?
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure, but I think the BSD networking stuff has been in linux
> > > > since 2.2, I think 2.4 got a lot of FreeBSD's VM stuff. I don't know
> > > > how much of either is there, but I remember reading about it, and
> > > > I've worked in both kernels before and have seen some pretty
> > > > non-superficial similarities in both.
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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rsowders@usgs.gov (rsowders@usgs.gov) wrote:

> That's an easy one.
> 
> Replace the line: 
> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
> with:
> *default release=cvs tag=.

If he changes that line, doesn't he start pulling source from FreeBSD-
CURRENT (rather than STABLE) ?

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Is there any way we can restrict this to some other listserv?  Maybe its
just me, but yeah, it was great hearing such sub-par flamage for the 50th
or 51st time, but this listserv gets enough traffic on it as it is.  This
is just a humble request, but its starting to grate on my nerves.  

-Josh

On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:

> well, I didn't mean for it to be a flame or a holy war, I just wanted to
> set the facts straight.
> 
> 
> =================================================================
> | Kenneth Culver              | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade    |
> | Unix Systems Administrator  | ICQ #: 24767726                 |
> | and student at The          | AIM: muythaibxr                 |
> | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction)   |
> | College Park.	              | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/|
> =================================================================
> 
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, SpaZ wrote:
> 
> > ARGGGGGGGHHHAAAAA.........
> > 
> > I guess I can't stop this flame/holy war between bsd-linux linux-windows
> > bsd-windows......but I can put in my buck twenty.
> > 
> > Use what is good for you.  aka      "To each his own"
> > 
> > I use NT, 2000,. and FreeBSD.  I have my reasons, why?  No of your biz, 2000
> > for my laptop for stability and compatibility at all my clients, NT for
> > small office servers, and FreeBSD for my web hosting company.
> > 
> > Why I don't use Linux.....not since college......tooo many changes....
> > 
> > 
> > Spaz
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kenneth Wayne Culver <culverk@wam.umd.edu>
> > To: Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu>
> > Cc: <GLOBALLINK2001@aol.com>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 8:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD-VS-Linux---Some Venting from Linux's side!
> > 
> > 
> > > They didn't reall cut 'n paste.. but used the same ideas... so you can't
> > > really exactly just grep through the code, but Linus himself has said that
> > > that's where the ideas come from.
> > >
> > >
> > > =================================================================
> > > | Kenneth Culver              | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade    |
> > > | Unix Systems Administrator  | ICQ #: 24767726                 |
> > > | and student at The          | AIM: muythaibxr                 |
> > > | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction)   |
> > > | College Park.               | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/|
> > > =================================================================
> > >
> > > On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Tim McMillen wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You know, everybody says this, that Linux uses the FreeBSD tcp/ip stack
> > > > and other things, but no one seems to verify it.  Has anyone actually
> > > > looked into the code?  It shouldn't be very hard to grep through the
> > > > code and see.  If they don't mention the copyright and they use the
> > > > code, then that's illegal, and I can't picture them doing that, they're
> > > > quite serious about their GPL, and it's implications.
> > > > If they didn't actually use any of the code, but instead rewrote
> > > > similiar stuff, then they didn't really steal it.  At that point that's
> > > > no different from any other code that gets shared between the projects.
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday January 25, 2001 16:45, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > > > > > i am on your side just wnated to know how much of FreeBSD
> > > > > > networking code is in 2.4?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure, but I think the BSD networking stuff has been in linux
> > > > > since 2.2, I think 2.4 got a lot of FreeBSD's VM stuff. I don't know
> > > > > how much of either is there, but I remember reading about it, and
> > > > > I've worked in both kernels before and have seen some pretty
> > > > > non-superficial similarities in both.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ken
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
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> > >
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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Hi,

I upgraded my ipfw yesterday on my 4.0-STABLE system with the patch by
following the instructions to the letter for the security bug discovered
by Aragon Gouveia, and compile and install appeared to go seamlessly.

However, ipfw now gives me this type of problem:

[root@athena]~# ipfw add 5000 deny tcp from any to 196.30.167.200 515 via rl0
05000 deny tcp from any to 196.30.167.200 515 via rl0
ip_fw_ctl: empty interface name
ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument
[root@athena]~#

The interface is most definitely rl0, and this exact ruleset is the same I
have been using for ages with my previous ipfw. Suggestions?

--
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On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:00:04AM +0200, Justin Stanford wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I upgraded my ipfw yesterday on my 4.0-STABLE system with the patch by
> following the instructions to the letter for the security bug discovered
> by Aragon Gouveia, and compile and install appeared to go seamlessly.
> 
> However, ipfw now gives me this type of problem:
> 
> [root@athena]~# ipfw add 5000 deny tcp from any to 196.30.167.200 515 via rl0
> 05000 deny tcp from any to 196.30.167.200 515 via rl0
> ip_fw_ctl: empty interface name
> ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument
> [root@athena]~#

You have to compile ipfw(8), compile a new kernel (or reload a new module),
and ipfw(8) needs to have /sys/netinet/ip_fw.h copied to /usr/include/netinet
unless you used buildworld(this needs to happen before recompiling ipfw).

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Is there any reason why one interface should NOT have two IP addresses =
??

My reason is to do with testing NAT .... I've got a problem thats been =
driving me
to distraction for ages & because it involves one of two tun's it costs =
a mint to keep=20
dialling the incoming line to test changes. If I can try things on a =
regular ethernet=20
interface I might have a chance of seeing whats not right without =
enriching Tel$tra \any further.

I guess the second (private) address is assigned similarly to the first =
(public) one
in /etc/rc.conf ??=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My reason is to do with testing NAT =
.... I've got a=20
problem thats been driving me</FONT></DIV>
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one of two tun's it costs a mint to keep </FONT></DIV>
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 FreeBSD 4.0 A full 4.4 BSD Lite Based 32-bit Operating System.

 The install kernel won't recognize and use DMA and LBA on my Compaq
Deskpro.
How do I activate DMA and LBA for my Deskpro BEFORE I partition the drive?
They are BOTH enabled in the BIOS.

DMA isn't that critical right this minute but `Bad things happen' if you
switch from CHS to LBA after installing partitions.


 I'm copying this from an envelope I wrote the dmesg text output on. No
printer, yet.

 pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> om motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
atapci0: <Intel PIIX3 ATA controller> port 0x1200-0x120f at device 20.1 on
pci0.
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 (the Maxtor drive)
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 (my cd-rom drive)
ad0: 43967MB <Maxtor54610H6> [8933/16/631] at ata0 master using BIOSPIO

ahc0: <Adaptec 2940 UltraSCSI adapter> port 0x1000-0x10ff mem
0x40000000-0x40000fff irq10 at device 14.0 on pci0.

 pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x1274, dev=0x5880) at 13.0 irq9 on pci0 (my
Ensoniq soundcard, to be configured in the kernel RSN.)

 The book and the FAQ just say 'Make sure you enable DMA and LBA if your
system supports it."
My system supports it, it's enabled in the BIOS, the drives all support it,
but FreeBSD doesn't.

 I looked in the GENERIC kernel and it doesn't even have 'pci' bus, only isa
and eisa.
The ATA devices enumerated in the kernel all appear to be for old wd type
isa? drives/controllers.

 The book and the FAQ don't really mention much about PCI devices except to
mention "...installed in computers for several years..." but that's not
especially helpful for adding PCI devices and controllers to the kernel!

 I tried adding devices from the dmesg list but then config -g whines about
the devices not existing.
I tried the special kernel keyword to enable DMA but config -g spit it back
out at me.

 Okay, fine. I left ALL the drives and ALL the controllers out of the kernel
and recompiled with just the 'pci' bus included. That actually worked. :)

Still no DMA but it DOES boot.
Out of curiosity, has anyone actually written any docs for enabling the PCI
devices yet or should I just go on letting the kernel grope the drives every
time it boots?

-3P



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I would like to be able to write to my floppy disk 
without going to su. I am the only person using this
machine (at home), so I don't care about world writable
permissions. I changed the permissions on /dev/fd0a
to world-writable, but the system refuses to let me 
do the same to /floppy and the directories and files
that already exist on the floppy. And yes, I am trying
this as root.

-- 
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www.wiegand.org


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is the disk filesystem msdos? 


On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Chip wrote:
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:41:07 -0800
> To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> From: Chip <chip@wiegand.org>
> Subject: chmod, chown don't work on /floppy
> 
> I would like to be able to write to my floppy disk 
> without going to su. I am the only person using this
> machine (at home), so I don't care about world writable
> permissions. I changed the permissions on /dev/fd0a
> to world-writable, but the system refuses to let me 
> do the same to /floppy and the directories and files
> that already exist on the floppy. And yes, I am trying
> this as root.
> 
> -- 
> Chip Wiegand
> Alternative Operating Systems
> www.wiegand.org
> 
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I would like to set up a Dell Inspiron with FreeBSD and 
use X, but am having a heck of a time with the XConfigurator
setup. One of the screens wants to know about the monitor
details - horizontal and vertical rates, but these don't 
apply to the lcd screen. The custom options are all standard
crt monitors. How do I set up X to run on the LCD screen? I 
have tried every custom option on the list, I have tried 
nearly every Dell option on the monitor list, and none of 
them will work. I called Dell, they refuse to support any
*nix on a laptop.
I have 3 of these to set up, and about a dozen more in the
next couple months.
Please help with this one, we're about to give up on Dell
and try another brand, though I don't see how that will make
any differance, the X set up still has only standard crt
monitors on the list.

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Michael Johnson wrote:
> 
> is the disk filesystem msdos?

Good question, here's the results of fdisk fd0a ->

 ******* Working on device /dev/fd0a *******
 parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
 cylinders=1 heads=1 sectors/track=1 (1 blks/cyl)
 
 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
 cylinders=1 heads=1 sectors/track=1 (1 blks/cyl)
 
 Media sector size is 512
 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
 Information from DOS bootblock is:
 The data for partition 1 is:
 sysid 1,(Primary DOS with 12 bit FAT)
     start 0, size 2880 (1 Meg), flag 80 (active)
 	beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0;
 	end: cyl 79/ sector 18/ head 1
 The data for partition 2 is:
 <UNUSED>
 The data for partition 3 is:
 <UNUSED>
 The data for partition 4 is:
 <UNUSED>

I don't know what else to do to find out what the
filesystem type is. 
Did I do the right thing or not?

-- 
Chip

 
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Chip wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:41:07 -0800
> > To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > From: Chip <chip@wiegand.org>
> > Subject: chmod, chown don't work on /floppy
> >
> > I would like to be able to write to my floppy disk
> > without going to su. I am the only person using this
> > machine (at home), so I don't care about world writable
> > permissions. I changed the permissions on /dev/fd0a
> > to world-writable, but the system refuses to let me
> > do the same to /floppy and the directories and files
> > that already exist on the floppy. And yes, I am trying
> > this as root.
> >
> > --
> > Chip Wiegand
> > Alternative Operating Systems
> > www.wiegand.org


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Hi, I'm running an Apache server. My box has two domain names. Is it =
possible to make Apache load a different Htdocs directory when one of =
the domain names is accessed? Like let's say I have 1.org and 2.org. =
1.org is default. So, when you type in 1.org, it goes to =
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Greetings,

I have a FreeBSD 3.2 system which panics with out of MBUFS, 
the messages says increase maxusers or NMBCLUSTERS.

In my kernel file I have :

maxusers     128
options         NBUF=512
options         NMBCLUSTERS=4096

I have checked the handbook and the complete FreeBSD book but there is no 
information pertaining to handling a panic or understanding what needs to be
fixed.


The panic occurs when I run nessus ( 1.0.7 ) and when the attack reaches the
IIS Malformed Extension Data.

I have 64Megs of Ram 
and 256Megs of SWAP

Please advise

Vikash


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this is a bit of a rtfm... :(

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/vhosts/index.html

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Hi, I'm running an Apache server. My box has two domain names. Is it
possible to make Apache load a different Htdocs directory when one of the
domain names is accessed? Like let's say I have 1.org and 2.org. 1.org is
default. So, when you type in 1.org, it goes to /usr/local/www/data/, but
when 2.org is typed into browser, /home/2org/public_html/ is accessed? I'm
lost, please find me. :P

Ty




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	<freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:46:34 -0800
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>    I have been seeing a FreeBSD-VS-Linux war on this mailing list and it
has
> disturbed me beyond tolerance. Which drove me to write this e-mail.

So you've decided to join in.

 First I want to tell everyone that I love everything thats opensource and
free, that includes FreeBSD,Linux,OpenBSD and NetBSD. But my most loved OS
is
Linux for the following reasons.

Linux isn't an OS.  It's a kernel.  That's like saying GNU HURD is my
favorite OS, or kernel32.dll is my favorite OS.  How about io.sys is my
favorite OS ?

>  For its age Linux has gone farther than any other OS has, including
*BSD's.
>The BSD's have a history of 20+ years and you are trying to prove that its
>superior as compared to Linux? Give me a break! If they werent superior
even
>now, then they did not deserve to be used at all.

FreeBSD Version 1.0 (December, 1993)   Last time I checked 2001-1994 != 20

Not to mention the fact that your reasoning here is stupid.  You say Linux
has done more in less time, yet it's still inferior to BSD, yet somehow this
is a reason to use Linux ?  I have a Buick which will 0-35 faster than your
car, but it's top speed is 45 miles per hour.  Would you rather have my
Buick or your car ?  Going from 7th place to 5th place very quickly doesn't
mean a damned thing until you pass a few more people.  You're still losing.

>Plus Linux was written from
>scratch, even though it was derived from Minix it did not contain any
foreign
>source code. While the BSD's contained actual AT&T code for quite some time
>and then they built upon that when they 'migrated' to 4.4BSD.

So now being derived from the original "Unix" is now a flaw ?  It used to be
a claim to fame as I recall.

> Linux has a more open model of developement as compared to any of the
BSD's.

Open model of development ?

>With the release of kernel 2.4.0 for Linux, its now an official gladiator
in the arena of
>Enterprise computing (although it is already running one of the most
heavily
>visited sites namely google.com,freshmeat.net...).

What exactly is it about 2.4.0 that makes it Enterprise as opposed to the
previous versions of Linux ?  Have you seen the benchmarks ?



> Microsoft hates Linux's guts while it seems to embrace the BSD's,
> for this reason alone is Linux worth using!

That is the stupidest thing you've said so far.  So when Microsoft embraces
Linux, are you going to run to Solaris ?

> Linux has done much to improve and its BETTER than NT (for some of you
falmers kind info).

Better than NT ?  Isn't that like the taller than Napoleon award ?  Everyone
wins.


>And watch out, Linux is fast improving and *very* soon the BSD's might seem
redundant with Linux around!

Might seem redundant ?  Do you understand the term redundant ?  Give me a
break.  You're talking out your ass, spouting Linux advocacy bullshit on a
FreeBSD mailing list.  Get the hell off this list and stop throwing your
Linux shit in my mailbox.





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On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 02:01:34PM -0800, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> rene@xs4all.nl wrote:
> > 
> > > I just ugraded a machine from 4.1 to 4.2-stable without any problems.
> > > I'm a bit confused. Rene picks up RELENG_4 and sees his build fail. Why
> > > did it work for me?
> > 
> > Maybe because I might have traces of my old 3.4 system lying around?
> 
> I upgraded from 3-STABLE as well :-/
> 
Groff 1.15 (which added the -U flag) was imported after 3.4-RELEASE.

cvs di -rRELENG_3_4_0_RELEASE -rRELENG_3_5_0_RELEASE src/contrib/groff/groff/groff.cc


Cheers,
-- 
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> >    I have been seeing a FreeBSD-VS-Linux war on this mailing list and it
> has
> > disturbed me beyond tolerance. Which drove me to write this e-mail.
> 
> So you've decided to join in.
> 
>  First I want to tell everyone that I love everything thats opensource and
> free, that includes FreeBSD,Linux,OpenBSD and NetBSD. But my most loved OS
> is
> Linux for the following reasons.
> 
> Linux isn't an OS.  It's a kernel.  That's like saying GNU HURD is my
> favorite OS, or kernel32.dll is my favorite OS.  How about io.sys is my
> favorite OS ?
> 
> >  For its age Linux has gone farther than any other OS has, including
> *BSD's.
> >The BSD's have a history of 20+ years and you are trying to prove that its
> >superior as compared to Linux? Give me a break! If they werent superior
> even
> >now, then they did not deserve to be used at all.
> 
> FreeBSD Version 1.0 (December, 1993)   Last time I checked 2001-1994 != 20
> 
> Not to mention the fact that your reasoning here is stupid.  You say Linux
> has done more in less time, yet it's still inferior to BSD, yet somehow this
> is a reason to use Linux ?  I have a Buick which will 0-35 faster than your
> car, but it's top speed is 45 miles per hour.  Would you rather have my
> Buick or your car ?  Going from 7th place to 5th place very quickly doesn't
> mean a damned thing until you pass a few more people.  You're still losing.
> 
> >Plus Linux was written from
> >scratch, even though it was derived from Minix it did not contain any
> foreign
> >source code. While the BSD's contained actual AT&T code for quite some time
> >and then they built upon that when they 'migrated' to 4.4BSD.
> 
> So now being derived from the original "Unix" is now a flaw ?  It used to be
> a claim to fame as I recall.
> 
> > Linux has a more open model of developement as compared to any of the
> BSD's.
> 
> Open model of development ?
> 
> >With the release of kernel 2.4.0 for Linux, its now an official gladiator
> in the arena of
> >Enterprise computing (although it is already running one of the most
> heavily
> >visited sites namely google.com,freshmeat.net...).
> 
> What exactly is it about 2.4.0 that makes it Enterprise as opposed to the
> previous versions of Linux ?  Have you seen the benchmarks ?
> 
> 
> 
> > Microsoft hates Linux's guts while it seems to embrace the BSD's,
> > for this reason alone is Linux worth using!
> 
> That is the stupidest thing you've said so far.  So when Microsoft embraces
> Linux, are you going to run to Solaris ?
> 
> > Linux has done much to improve and its BETTER than NT (for some of you
> falmers kind info).
> 
> Better than NT ?  Isn't that like the taller than Napoleon award ?  Everyone
> wins.
> 
> 
> >And watch out, Linux is fast improving and *very* soon the BSD's might seem
> redundant with Linux around!
> 
> Might seem redundant ?  Do you understand the term redundant ?  Give me a
> break.  You're talking out your ass, spouting Linux advocacy bullshit on a
> FreeBSD mailing list.  Get the hell off this list and stop throwing your
> Linux shit in my mailbox.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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This is not the proper channel, but anyway...
I'm running 2.2.8-RELEASE and I'm considering it's FAR better
than 2.4.0 Linux.
am I using my brain before making such statement?
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When installing fbsd 4.0-R from cd onto a computer with a 30.8gb drive I get
strange happenings after select the disto I want (kern developer).
First I get asked about the des/md5 as normal, then ports as normal...
but when I get sent back to the disto menu, nearly everything is select.
I am unable to deselect the superflous choices, and if I continue with the
install all goes well until the reboot where I get "No Operating System
Found"
I have verified that all hardware works correctly as I can install 3.2 and
other OS'es on the same box, but any attempt to upgrade gives me the same
errors as a freash install.

Any support is greatly appreciated.
robert



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> This is not the proper channel, but anyway...
> I'm running 2.2.8-RELEASE and I'm considering it's FAR better
> than 2.4.0 Linux.
> am I using my brain before making such statement?

Okay, you just confused me beyond belief.  I just had a kernel panic of the
mind, and I'm not sure whether I'll be able to recover.

...

I'm still confused.

...

I read it again, and now I'm more confused.  Veins in my head are starting
to throb.

...

For my own personal health and safety, I'm going to have to delete this
email and try to forget it ever existed.

...

ARG !  I couldn't help it, I read it again.

Please, have mercy upon us all and don't send this kind of email to the
list.  Weaker minded people could actually die from this sort of confusion.
Next time just say something like:

I pink linux because it's tall and he is toe.



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> When installing fbsd 4.0-R from cd onto a computer with a 30.8gb drive I
get
> strange happenings after select the disto I want (kern developer).
> First I get asked about the des/md5 as normal, then ports as normal...
> but when I get sent back to the disto menu, nearly everything is select.
> I am unable to deselect the superflous choices, and if I continue with the
> install all goes well until the reboot where I get "No Operating System
> Found"
> I have verified that all hardware works correctly as I can install 3.2 and
> other OS'es on the same box, but any attempt to upgrade gives me the same
> errors as a freash install.
>
> Any support is greatly appreciated.
> robert

Although I have no solution for you, I will just put out there that I have
used both 36 and 42 gig maxtor drives with BSD, no problem.  I know that's
not much help, but I figure it's something :)




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On Thu 2001-01-25 (13:16), Assad Khan wrote:
>     I have been seeing a FreeBSD-VS-Linux war on this mailing list and it has
> disturbed me beyond tolerance. Which drove me to write this e-mail.

Yes, it's pretty obvious you have a problem with tolerance.  Please
don't bother the people trying to answer questions about FreeBSD with
your intolerance.

Thanks,

Neil
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I am beating my head up trying to figure out how to do this; I've tried
(what little I know) Perl, sed, awk, etc, and am stumped.  This is my
last-ditch resort...

I have a script that checks the size of a staging directory (for
offloading data to CD-R).  It does a rudimentary check with something like
this:

DIRSIZE=`du -k /var/backup | tail -1 | awk '{ print $1 }'`

That works just fine, and gives me the number of kilobytes used by my
staging directory.

However, because I am a want to see real numbers, I also pass it through a
short perl script as well, for the report that gets mailed to me:

perl -e "printf('is %10d bytes (%dK, %dM). (%5.2f%%)',\
   ${DIRSIZE}*1024, ${DIRSIZE}, ${DIRSIZE}/1024, ((${DIRSIZE}/716800)*100));"\
   >>/tmp/tempfile.$$.1

This outputs something like...

is  470768640 bytes (459735K, 448M). (65.68%)

But, I want that first really big number (ok, the second one too) to be
formatted a la

470,768,640 bytes (459,735K; 448M). (65.68%)


Any ideas?  I know this is possible (but I haven't done it since my "Intro
to Unix course years ago, and forgot how).

Thanks in advance for any help,

joe



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Hello again,

My users want to use flashget as ftp client. They're behind FreeBSD
firewall.

Is there any way to make this?

They can use normal ftp clients now. They can also use ftp over squid proxy
server. But, what they want is to use flashget.

System is FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE, machine has two NICs one uses LAN ip and the
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Howdy,

  Does anyone have, or have a reference to, a keyboard config for any of the 
major X console apps?  I'd like to have something like xterm or rxvt work 
with my keyboard in much the same way as things would work at the CLI.  I've 
been reading man pages until my eyes went red, and I just don't see how to 
properly get this configured.
  At this point, the only GUI based console I've gotten to work properly is 
TeraTerm on my NT box.  Just something wrong with having to go to NT to work 
with FreeBSD if ya know what I mean :)
  More specifically, I'd like to have the following keys perform these 
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Backspace - kill character on the left
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Ctrl Rt Arrow - Move cursor to next word
Ctrl Lt Arrow - Move cursor to previous word

  Well, that's a bit more than the CLI, but that's my keyboard wish list.  I 
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Dear sir/madam,

I recently started using FreeBSD instead of Linux. I was used to the feature of compressing filesystems on the fly but can't seem to find a way to do that using FreeBSD. I've asked several newsgroups but noone knew...
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the second ip adress should be assign like below
if the ip adress is on the same subnet you must use 255.255.255.255
as the netmask. if not use the appropriate netmask for the new ip
address you are adding.
 
ifconfig_xl0_alias0="inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.255"
                                        ^^ ipadress
PeTe

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Young [mailto:dougy@bryden.apana.org.au]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 7:24 AM
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Two IP addresses for one interface


Is there any reason why one interface should NOT have two IP addresses ??
 
My reason is to do with testing NAT .... I've got a problem thats been
driving me
to distraction for ages & because it involves one of two tun's it costs a
mint to keep 
dialling the incoming line to test changes. If I can try things on a regular
ethernet 
interface I might have a chance of seeing whats not right without enriching
Tel$tra \any further.
 
I guess the second (private) address is assigned similarly to the first
(public) one
in /etc/rc.conf ?? 


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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there any reason why one =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My reason is to do with testing NAT =
.... I've got=20
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because it involves=20
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changes. If I=20
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seeing whats=20
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is assigned=20
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You should take a look at the vtun port
/usr/ports/net/vtun

For the latest build/faq/configs look at
http://vtun.sourceforge.net

I'm currently using it to connect two diffrent lans over
the internet between two freebsd firewalls. Works like
a charm.

Search the questions mailinglist on freebsd.org for
a how-to on setting up the tunnel.

PeTe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Murray [mailto:mgd@brutus.converging.net]
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 6:56 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Resources on vpn and ipsec?
> 
> 
> I am looking for resources on how to properly set up a virtual tunnel
> between two FreeBSD 4.2 firewalls. My intention is to establish a
> secure connection between two offices both of which have DSL. I have
> configured each FreeBSD 4.2 box as firewalls because they are
> protecting W2K networks.
> 
> I can easily set up sshd on each firewall and use a product like Terra
> Term Secure Shell on a w2k box to remotely log onto each  firewall in
> order to
> manage the firewalls from the other site.
> 
> However, I would like to go one step further. From a w2k box at site
> A, connect to a w2k box at site B and manage the box or transfer
> files. Something like VNC does a good job from w2k to w2k. However, I
> would have to somehow configure a port or a nic on the firewall to
> point to the interior box. Some sort of relay or routing mechanism.
> 
> As you  see my understanding is basic. I just need to find some good
> websites or resources and do a bit of reading and experimenting.
> 
> -- 
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Thats what I've been trying ...... FreeBSD accepts that no problem, but =
the=20
remote Win98 system complains that 255.255.255.255  is an illegal =
netmask.

The IPs aren't on same subnet though .... the initial one is a public =
one with
subnet 255.255.255.248 & the second is private (192.168.0.1).I've tried =
various
netmasks including 255.255.255.0 (FreeBSD complained that the remote=20
IP (192.168.0.2) was not in same subnet & 255.255.255.255 (Windows=20
complained about illegal netmask)

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Per Tore Larsen=20
  To: 'Doug Young' ; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
  Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 7:12 PM
  Subject: RE: Two IP addresses for one interface


  the second ip adress should be assign like below
  if the ip adress is on the same subnet you must use 255.255.255.255
  as the netmask. if not use the appropriate netmask for the new ip
  address you are adding.

  ifconfig_xl0_alias0=3D"inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.255"
                                          ^^ ipadress
  PeTe
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Doug Young [mailto:dougy@bryden.apana.org.au]
    Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 7:24 AM
    To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
    Subject: Two IP addresses for one interface


    Is there any reason why one interface should NOT have two IP =
addresses ??

    My reason is to do with testing NAT .... I've got a problem thats =
been driving me
    to distraction for ages & because it involves one of two tun's it =
costs a mint to keep=20
    dialling the incoming line to test changes. If I can try things on a =
regular ethernet=20
    interface I might have a chance of seeing whats not right without =
enriching Tel$tra \any further.

    I guess the second (private) address is assigned similarly to the =
first (public) one
    in /etc/rc.conf ??=20

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(FreeBSD=20
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  the ip adress is on the same subnet you must use=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D218471309-26012001><FONT face=3DArial =
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
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.... I've=20
    got a problem thats been driving me</FONT></DIV>
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changes. If=20
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Hello,

I run dial-in server, using FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE and Cyclades-Ye board.
The system run without any problems, but after 20-30 days or more I get
message like this:

Message from syslogd@hostname at Thu Jan 25 16:57:10 2001 ...
hostname Jan 25 16:57:10pppd[: Hangup (SIGHUP)

and all pppd daemons get SIGHUP.

With my old dial-in server, running FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE, I had the same
problem and some others with cy driver (silo overflow). The FreeBSD
2.2.8-STABLE and 3.5-STABLE use pppd-2.3.5.

I thing that is bug in pppd-2.3.5.

Can anyone confirm this?

PS: Sorry, my englysh is too bad.

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Hi all,

I want to compile the mod_php4 port with the option "--with-dom" but it
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> Dear sir/madam,
> 
> I recently started using FreeBSD instead of Linux. I was used to the feature of 
> compressing filesystems on the fly but can't seem to find a way to do that
> using FreeBSD. I've asked several newsgroups but noone knew... > Do you know
> if this feature is implemented or will be ? > 
> Thanks in advance,
> Axel
I dont have any idea about compressing the file system (If I'm wrong do correct
me). But you can compress the binary itself using gzip. Just make sure you have
the appropriate kernel with support of executing gzipped compressed binary.
Refer to the LINT.

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Hi all,

Sorry to keep bugging with this question, but I really want Linux off
of my laptop. The laptop is a Sony PCG505.

I have tried to install FreeBSD from the pcmcia cdrom drive, and by
booting off of floppies and then installing over the pcmcia network
card (3Com).

Can anyone tell me if this is possible? I just need to get the install
going and then I'll be ok, but I can't even get that done. I have
tried all of the memory address options with IRQ's 3 and 10, but it
can never find the pcmcia device.

If I can't get the pcmcia side of things fixed, what are my other
options to do an install ?

TIA,

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Hi!

I've done some bechmarks on softupdates with different filesystem
options. Benchmark is a very simple one:

time find /usr

/usr is 7241594 1K block long, has

HARDWARE: 
PIII 550Mhz, 128Mb RAM,  
IDE QUANTUM FIREBALLlct10 10 9787Mb 
MASTER UDMA-33

Interupts never went above 2%, system was never above 4%.

Here is what i've got (time ascending):

noatime+su 
    08m54.222s
noatime
    08m55.301s
noatime+async 
    08m57.124s
noatime+async+su  
    08m58.251s
async+su
    12m3.157s
su
    12m5.452s
no options:
    12m14.341s
async 
    12m23.763s

1% of worst time = 7 seconds.
Difference smaller than 3% should be accounted for
testing flaws.

I realize that async with atime is useless, since nothing
is written in this benchmark. Also, async should be useless
in this benchmark anyway. And using async+su together
is at least weird, because they do pretty much the
same job.

I;ve read the list and know that using atime+su used to
cause kernel panics but no more. So, it seems to be
fine (theoretically). Does anybody run it like this?

Weird result:  no options at all seems to be faster then
async option along. However the differene is within 3%,
so we can say they perform the same.  Does it mean
that async does not apply to updating atime?

Overall result: if you going to have a system which
does a lot of small read on a lot of files 
(usual suspects: loaded web servers) using noatime
will save the day, all other option give negligible
win. I have not run any special test, but it seems that
mysql can gane some speed with noatime too. Any
ideas?

This is not a strict test, nor it is a complete one.

If you have some additional data or comment, please share it in
the list

I am planning to run some REAL fs benchmarks with different options
 later.

Best Regards,
Artem



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If you have a internet connection (should be fast if you plan
to install everything) you could install the system using the
internet as a source for install files.
Youll need a pcmcia network adapter, and can recommend 3com574.
Worked for me.

PeTe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Pascoe [mailto:wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:45 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: IS THERE HOPE? (was - installing FreeBSD from PCMCIA devices)
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Sorry to keep bugging with this question, but I really want Linux off
> of my laptop. The laptop is a Sony PCG505.
> 
> I have tried to install FreeBSD from the pcmcia cdrom drive, and by
> booting off of floppies and then installing over the pcmcia network
> card (3Com).
> 
> Can anyone tell me if this is possible? I just need to get the install
> going and then I'll be ok, but I can't even get that done. I have
> tried all of the memory address options with IRQ's 3 and 10, but it
> can never find the pcmcia device.
> 
> If I can't get the pcmcia side of things fixed, what are my other
> options to do an install ?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> -- 
> - Wayne Pascoe 
> E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk
> Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668
> Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675
> 
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Per Tore Larsen <per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com> writes:

> If you have a internet connection (should be fast if you plan
> to install everything) you could install the system using the
> internet as a source for install files.
> Youll need a pcmcia network adapter, and can recommend 3com574.
> Worked for me.
> 
> PeTe
> 

My whole problem (as described below, and at length in 2 other
postings) is that I can't get the PCMCIA device to work at install
time. Not the cd or the pcmcia device. :(

> 
> > -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Pascoe
> > [mailto:wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 26,
> > 2001 10:45 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: IS THERE
> > HOPE? (was - installing FreeBSD from PCMCIA devices)
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Sorry to keep bugging with this question, but I really want Linux off
> > of my laptop. The laptop is a Sony PCG505.
> > 
> > I have tried to install FreeBSD from the pcmcia cdrom drive, and by
> > booting off of floppies and then installing over the pcmcia network
> > card (3Com).
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me if this is possible? I just need to get the install
> > going and then I'll be ok, but I can't even get that done. I have
> > tried all of the memory address options with IRQ's 3 and 10, but it
> > can never find the pcmcia device.
> > 
> > If I can't get the pcmcia side of things fixed, what are my other
> > options to do an install ?
> > 
> > TIA,
> > 
> > -- 
> > - Wayne Pascoe 
> > E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk
> > Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668
> > Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675
> > 
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On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 05:48:00PM +0800, Ariff Abdullah wrote:

> I dont have any idea about compressing the file system (If I'm wrong
> do correct me). But you can compress the binary itself using
> gzip. Just make sure you have the appropriate kernel with support of
> executing gzipped compressed binary.  Refer to the LINT.  good luck

FreeBSD doesn't currently support compressed filesystems (and the
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Greetings,

I want to gather traffic accounting informations of incoming and
outgoing traffic based on the virtual domains (apache, sendmail, ftp).
AFAIK trafd, mrtg, etc work on ip/port basis which is the same for all
domains.

Is there a solution for this task?

Please advise

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HI
My friend intends to install FreeBSD on his AMD Duron based machine. Will it
work ok, or he needs some special things to make it run.

Maciej "Maciunio" Paczesny
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Gernot Hueber <hueber@riic.at> writes:

> Greetings,
> 
> I want to gather traffic accounting informations of incoming and
> outgoing traffic based on the virtual domains (apache, sendmail, ftp).
> AFAIK trafd, mrtg, etc work on ip/port basis which is the same for all
> domains.
> 
> Is there a solution for this task?

While not an ideal solution, I am currently doing the following :

I have mrtg running and graphing traffic on the ports on the
switch. Apache generates logs which I run through analog. This gives
me a total amount of data transfered per virtual host. I add the
traffic for all of the sites up, and then work out each virtualhosts
traffic as a percentage of the total. This is then worked out as a
percentage of the total traffic as reported by mrtg.

It's not ideal because it doesn't take into account shell sessions
used to maintain the box, but it's pretty close.

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Hello,
I'm trying to make my LJ1100 print, and what is worse -- print in Russian.
I hope there is no need to reinvent the wheel. Maybe someone has already 
done the work. I would really appreciate your help.

History: I came from Linux and have no experience of working with FreeBSD.



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On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:30:43AM +0100, Maciej Paczesny wrote:
> HI
> My friend intends to install FreeBSD on his AMD Duron based machine. Will it
> work ok, or he needs some special things to make it run.

It works fine on my Duron 650 :)

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Hi All,

Does anyone know for sure if  FreeBSD 4.2 supports HP NetRAID Ultra2 disk array
controller?  The FreeBSD 4.2 Release Note doesn't explicitly name it, but says
"Some HP NetRAID controllers are OEM versions of AMI designs, and these are
also supported."

Thanks!

Maxim




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I've done it here. You need:
    1) ghostscript
    2) some russian fonts for ghost script

Play with the config files for ghostscript and printer daemon.
Now you can print postscript with russian. However, all russian
fonts that i found  for ghostcript are terrible and print from
Netscape looks really ugly (letters go over other letters, pictures,
borders etc). Don;t know about word processors for X.

ghostcript is in the ports and some filters are there too:
all the other parts you can get from
ftp://osiris.ipform.ru/pub/russian-p

Good luck!

Artem

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> Hello,
> I'm trying to make my LJ1100 print, and what is worse -- print in Russian.
> I hope there is no need to reinvent the wheel. Maybe someone has already
> done the work. I would really appreciate your help.
>
> History: I came from Linux and have no experience of working with FreeBSD.
>
>
>
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Upsmon is only for the Smart-UPS. If you have a Back-UPS or other,
find another application to use. I've got a 1400 Smart-UPS and even it
doesn't like upsmon. I get all the readings correct for voltage, %
load, etc, but when I test it by removing AC, it tells me only 4% of
battery is left and immediately begin shutdown sequence. After that,
upsmon won't report any readings from the ups until I reboot. I can
look at the outside of the unit and see it's still got a full charge.
bleh. I'm going to look into nut this weekend. I think it has support
for a wider variety of brands/models. And yes, it's in the ports
collection!
-Otter

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* Micke Josefsson <mj@isy.liu.se> [20010122 19:42]: writing on the
subject 'RE: UPS''
Micke>
Micke> On 22-Jan-01 Matt Bettinger wrote:
Micke> > Hello,
Micke> >
Micke> > Had the power go out for me at the home and ofcourse the
network went down and
Micke> > my
Micke> > bsd box had a tough time recovering.  Think it is about time
fora UPS.  What
Micke> > would
Micke> > y'all recommend for a UPS and how does it work with the upsd
port if at all?
Micke> >
Micke> > Thanks
Micke> >
Micke> > Matt - Houston
Micke>
Micke>
Micke> APC Smart-UPS 700 and upsmond from the ports. You can get this
report:
Micke>
Micke>
Micke> vanheden> ps ax|grep ups
Micke>   304  ??  Is     0:04.67 /usr/local/sbin/upsmond -p
/dev/cuaa1 -r 20
Micke> 45358  p0  S+     0:00.01 grep ups
Micke> vanheden> upsstat
Micke>
Micke>         UPSMON Status Reporting Facility
Micke>         ---  upsmond version 2.1.3  ---
Micke>
Micke>              APC UPS 700 Status Info
Micke> --------------------------------------------------------
Micke>                      Model: SMART-UPS 700
Micke>                  CopyRight: (C) APCC
Micke>           Manufacture date: 12/18/99
Micke>                   Serial #: NS9951331687
Micke>           Firmware version: 50.11.I
Micke>                   Local ID: UPS_IDEN
Micke>  Last battery replace date: 12/18/99
Micke>       Nominal line voltage: 230 V
Micke>    Nominal battery voltage: 24 V
Micke>                  Available: YES
Micke>                    Standby: NO
Micke>                 Line Power: OK
Micke>                    Battery: OK
Micke>               Line Voltage: 227.50
Micke>                       Load:  20.20 %
Micke>            Battery Voltage:  27.60
Micke>              Battery Level: 100.00 %
Micke> --------------------------------------------------------
Micke> vanheden>
Micke>
Micke>
Micke> And it tells vanheden to shutdown if the power is down for more
than X minutes.
Micke> (-r 20 = 20 mins in the command above).
Micke>
Micke> And it logs too:
Micke>
Micke> vanheden> tail /var/log/upsmon.log
Micke> Sep 19 00:29:31 <daemon.alert> vanheden UPS: Input line power
back
Micke> Oct 14 08:31:11 <daemon.crit> vanheden UPS: Input line power
failure
Micke> Oct 14 08:31:13 <daemon.alert> vanheden UPS: Input line power
back
Micke> Oct 25 10:00:21 <daemon.info> vanheden UPS: upsmond daemon
started - version
Micke> 2.1.3
Micke> Oct 30 09:24:24 <daemon.info> vanheden UPS: upsmond daemon
started - version
Micke> 2.1.3
Micke> Jan  2 13:56:47 <daemon.crit> vanheden UPS: Input line power
failure
Micke> Jan  2 13:56:47 <daemon.crit> vanheden UPS: Input line power
failure
Micke> Jan  2 13:56:48 <daemon.alert> vanheden UPS: Input line power
back
Micke> Jan  2 16:30:28 <daemon.crit> vanheden UPS: Input line power
failure
Micke> Jan  2 16:30:29 <daemon.alert> vanheden UPS: Input line power
back
Micke>
Micke>
Micke> Very satisfied customer.
Micke> /Micke
Micke> ----------------------------------
Micke> Michael Josefsson, MSEE
Micke> mj@isy.liu.se
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Hi Micke,
Is this only possible with the Smart-UPS or any other UPS?

TIA

-Wash

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How can I mount my CDROmM in KDE?
I tried many times, but failed.

Can I install Mozilla for Linux from my CDROM in my FreeBSD partition? Or
should it be placed in my "linux compatible part?

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Jaap van Hennik schrieb:
> 
> How can I mount my CDROmM in KDE?

It works as root. You may allow others to mount, too. Since this is a
security risk, it is disabled by default for lusers.

> Can I install Mozilla for Linux from my CDROM in my FreeBSD partition? Or
> should it be placed in my "linux compatible part?

As long as the binary is branded as ELF, it may be placed anywhere on
your hard disk. man brandelf tells the whole story.

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Then maybe you could hook up an external modem to a com port and do an
ftp install over dialup... or if you have another machine on the lan
which could provide you a plip link, that's also an option, assuming
your parallel port is operational.
-Otter


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Per Tore Larsen <per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com> writes:

> If you have a internet connection (should be fast if you plan
> to install everything) you could install the system using the
> internet as a source for install files.
> Youll need a pcmcia network adapter, and can recommend 3com574.
> Worked for me.
>
> PeTe
>

My whole problem (as described below, and at length in 2 other
postings) is that I can't get the PCMCIA device to work at install
time. Not the cd or the pcmcia device. :(

>
> > -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Pascoe
> > [mailto:wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 26,
> > 2001 10:45 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: IS THERE
> > HOPE? (was - installing FreeBSD from PCMCIA devices)
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sorry to keep bugging with this question, but I really want Linux
off
> > of my laptop. The laptop is a Sony PCG505.
> >
> > I have tried to install FreeBSD from the pcmcia cdrom drive, and
by
> > booting off of floppies and then installing over the pcmcia
network
> > card (3Com).
> >
> > Can anyone tell me if this is possible? I just need to get the
install
> > going and then I'll be ok, but I can't even get that done. I have
> > tried all of the memory address options with IRQ's 3 and 10, but
it
> > can never find the pcmcia device.
> >
> > If I can't get the pcmcia side of things fixed, what are my other
> > options to do an install ?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > --
> > - Wayne Pascoe
> > E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk
> > Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668
> > Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675
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On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 02:00:04PM +0300, Artem Koutchine wrote:
> I've done it here. You need:
>     1) ghostscript
>     2) some russian fonts for ghost script
> 
> Play with the config files for ghostscript and printer daemon.
> Now you can print postscript with russian. However, all russian
> fonts that i found  for ghostcript are terrible and print from
> Netscape looks really ugly (letters go over other letters, pictures,
> borders etc). Don;t know about word processors for X.
> 
> ghostcript is in the ports and some filters are there too:
> all the other parts you can get from
> ftp://osiris.ipform.ru/pub/russian-p
> 
Is it possible to take gs fonts from Black Cat Linux distribution?
They are very nice. Can I just copy the fonts directory or it won't 
work?
Developers of BCL also provide a patch called "netscape-print-patch".
It makes printing from netscape very easy and output is not ugly.
I'll try to apply the patch after setting up the printer.


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I have been trying to get the SKIP package working properly with a Realtek
8139 based ethernet card (the 'rl' device) and FreeBSD 3.x and 4.x, but have
run into trouble. The problem is that every encrypted packet transmitted is
truncated - tcpdump shows something like the following:

11:15:12.895052  truncated-ip - 120 bytes missing! 213.38.150.1 >
194.73.188.40: ip-proto-57 184 (ttl 255, id 54)

If I use an Intel Etherexpress 10/100 card (fxp device), everything works
fine.

On examining the Realtek driver if_rl.c, the reason would appear to be
because it only takes the first mbuf from the chain and ignores the rest
when constructing the frame to transmit, while the fxp and other drivers
appear to deal with mbuf fragments correctly.

Is this the correct diagnosis or am I way off track?

Is there any solution to this problem? (other than not using a Realtek card
for this purpose)

Regards,

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Hi,

I like to use the PAM-Module pam_userdb in FreeBSD 4.2 stable. 

I take the module from the PAM-Distribution 0.73 and attempted to compile
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I've just upgraded my server from 3.x to 4.2 stable.

I achieved this by a new installation of 4.2 on a new disc and then
swapping out my root disc to a new mount.

I installed the basic packages I have by default from CVsup and used the
ports make install.

Packages installed are

Apache, Samba, Netatalk, amanda, X

I then copied across the old password file to recreate users accounts.

Most things seem to work fine.

I can login as any authorised user under telnet, xdm, samba or pcnfsd.

However I am unable to login using ftp or as an appleshare over appletalk.

The machine is registered OK over appletalk and even allows printing via
appletalk.

The problem I am experiencing seems to be specific to uid/password
authorisation for the ftp and appleshare (netatalk) protocols. I am at a
loss as to where to tackle this problem. I have looked at auth.conf and
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Help would be appreciated as I have a number of apple users who would like
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From: "Vitaly Semkin" <freebsd@online.sinor.ru>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 02:00:04PM +0300, Artem Koutchine wrote:
> > I've done it here. You need:
> >     1) ghostscript
> >     2) some russian fonts for ghost script
> >
> > Play with the config files for ghostscript and printer daemon.
> > Now you can print postscript with russian. However, all russian
> > fonts that i found  for ghostcript are terrible and print from
> > Netscape looks really ugly (letters go over other letters,
pictures,
> > borders etc). Don;t know about word processors for X.
> >
> > ghostcript is in the ports and some filters are there too:
> > all the other parts you can get from
> > ftp://osiris.ipform.ru/pub/russian-p
> >
> Is it possible to take gs fonts from Black Cat Linux distribution?
> They are very nice. Can I just copy the fonts directory or it won't
> work?

Have no idea.

> Developers of BCL also provide a patch called
"netscape-print-patch".
> It makes printing from netscape very easy and output is not ugly.
> I'll try to apply the patch after setting up the printer.

Hmm.. Never heard of it. It would be interesting to know if and how
it works.

Please, let me know, how things went and how nice russian PS
printing look like.

Regards,
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Okay, I've been at this the better part of the night, and reading the
mailing list doesn't seem to help.

I'm pertty much at this point:

I need to label a partition for vinum.  From what I can gather from
Greg's postings the disk does not have to have any partitions on it, nor
does it have to have any slices labeled.  All it seems to need is
disklabel -e.

>>> At this point I have not done anything to the disk's (like newfs or
>>> /stand/sysinstall) they are low-level formatted only.
>>
>> That's all you need.  I'm assuming that you're using an older version
>> of FreeBSD.  Do 'disklabel -e da0' and it should work.

(in my case it's ad4 and ad6, but...)

# /dev/ad4:
type: unknown
disk: amnesiac
label: fictitious
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 16
sectors/cylinder: 1008
cylinders: 39693
sectors/unit: 40011300
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0           # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0

8 partitions:
#        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  c: 40011300        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 -
39693*)


---End

Now I've also seen the vinum docs say that partition C is not usable, as
it refers to the entire disk.  Well, there aren't any others there.

Here's the funny part.  I've tried creating FreeBSD partitions on the
disks (but never labeled them) using /stand/sysinstall.  The above did not
change at all.

Even if I make no changes to the file, I get:

disklabel: Operation not supported by device
re-edit the label? [y]: 

Greg, help please!

Thanks,

Dan Mahoney


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I tried the kernel compile in 4.2 earlier today & got similar response ....
looks like
some "feature" there that needs attention

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From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:23 PM
Subject: New Kernel install


Hi,

I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my machine.  I used the GENERIC
configuration as a starting point and added what I needed and commented out
what I didn't want.  I was able to issue the command /usr/sbin/config -g
"newkernel" fine but when I go to build the kernel with the make depend or
just make I get a stop error.  The error indicates that there's unterminited
string or something to the effect and gives me this "#IF" for the problem.
I've gone through my kernel config and can not see anything. I'm not very
good at this I should also say.

I'm using Freebsd 4.2-Current.  This is my first custom kernel.  I've
attached the file for your viewing and hopefully  you can see my problem.  I
included the options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT for now to get the machine
up and running.  I'll change this to DENY once I"m done and recompile the
kernel.

Thanks for your help.



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> #
> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
> #
> # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
> # Kernel Configuration Files:
> #
> #    http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
> #
> # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
> # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
> # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
> # latest information.
> #
> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
> # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you
are
> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
> #
> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FWKERNEL,v 1 2001/01/25 22:45 Ben Ossei Exp
$
>
> machine i386
> cpu I386_CPU
> cpu I486_CPU
> cpu I586_CPU
> cpu I686_CPU
> ident FWKERNEL
> maxusers 64
>
> # makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
>
> # options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation
> options INET #InterNETworking
> options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
> options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
> options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
> options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
> options MFS #Memory Filesystem
> options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
> # options NFS #Network Filesystem
> # options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
> # options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
> options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem
> options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
> options PROCFS #Process filesystem
> options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
> options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
> # options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console
> options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor
> options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
> options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support
> options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
> options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
> options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
> options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
> options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
> options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies
> options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV #install a CDEV entry in /dev
> options IPFIREWALL
> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
> options IPDIVERT
> options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
> options IPFILTER
> options IPFILTER_LOG
>
> # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
> options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
> options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
>
> device isa
> device eisa
> device pci
>
> # Floppy drives
> device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
> device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
> # device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
>
> # ATA and ATAPI devices
> device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
> device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
> device ata
> device atadisk # ATA disk drives
> device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
> device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
> device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
> options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering
> # options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
>
> # SCSI Controllers
> # device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family
> # device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
> # device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
> # device isp # Qlogic family
> # device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
> # device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
> # options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
> # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
> # both sym and ncr are configured
>
> # device adv0 at isa?
> # device adw
> # device bt0 at isa?
> # device aha0 at isa?
> # device aic0 at isa?
>
> # device ncv # NCR 53C500
> # device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
> # device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50
>
> # SCSI peripherals
> # device scbus # SCSI bus (required)
> # device da # Direct Access (disks)
> # device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
> # device cd # CD
> # device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
>
> # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
> # device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
> # device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
> # device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
>
> # RAID controllers
> # device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
> # device amr # AMI MegaRAID
> # device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family
> # device twe # 3ware Escalade
>
> # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
> device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
> device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
> device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12
>
> device vga0 at isa?
>
> # splash screen/screen saver
> pseudo-device splash
>
> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
> device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100
>
> # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
> # device vt0 at isa?
> # options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console
> # options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor
> # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT
lines
> # options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std
>
> # Floating point support - do not disable.
> device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
>
> # Power management support (see LINT for more options)
> device apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management
>
> # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
> # device card
> # device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
> # device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable
>
> # Serial (COM) ports
> device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
> device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
> device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
> device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
>
> # Parallel port
> device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required)
> device lpt # Printer
> # device plip # TCP/IP over parallel
> device ppi # Parallel port interface device
> # device vpo # Requires scbus and da
>
>
> # PCI Ethernet NICs.
> # device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
> device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
> # device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
> device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
> # device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
>
> # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
> # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these
NICs!
> device miibus # MII bus support
> device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
> # device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
> # device rl # RealTek 8129/8139
> # device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
> # device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
> # device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
> # device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
> # device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
> # device wb # Winbond W89C840F
> device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
>
> # ISA Ethernet NICs.
> # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
> # device ex
> # device ep
> # device fe0 at isa? port 0x300
> # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really
> # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed
> # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code.
> # device wi
> # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will
> # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP
> # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
> # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify
> # those paremeters here.
> # device an
> # Xircom Ethernet
> # device xe
> # The probe order of these is presently determined by
i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
> # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
> # device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
> # device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
> # device cs0 at isa? port 0x300
> # device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
>
> # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
> pseudo-device loop # Network loopback
> pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support
> # pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP
> # pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP
> # pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel.
> pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
> pseudo-device md # Memory "disks"
> pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
> pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
>
> # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
> # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
> pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter
>
> # USB support
> # device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface
> # device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface
> device usb # USB Bus (required)
> device ugen # Generic
> device uhid # "Human Interface Devices"
> device ukbd # Keyboard
> device ulpt # Printer
> # device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
> device ums # Mouse
> # device uscanner # Scanners
> # USB Ethernet, requires mii
> # device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet
> # device cue # CATC USB ethernet
> # device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
>



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Do you think there's a bug in the software?

--- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
> wrote:
>I tried the kernel compile in 4.2 earlier today & got similar response ....
>looks like
>some "feature" there that needs attention
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
>To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
>Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:23 PM
>Subject: New Kernel install
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my machine.  I used the GENERIC
>configuration as a starting point and added what I needed and commented out
>what I didn't want.  I was able to issue the command /usr/sbin/config -g
>"newkernel" fine but when I go to build the kernel with the make depend or
>just make I get a stop error.  The error indicates that there's unterminited
>string or something to the effect and gives me this "#IF" for the problem.
>I've gone through my kernel config and can not see anything. I'm not very
>good at this I should also say.
>
>I'm using Freebsd 4.2-Current.  This is my first custom kernel.  I've
>attached the file for your viewing and hopefully  you can see my problem.  I
>included the options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT for now to get the machine
>up and running.  I'll change this to DENY once I"m done and recompile the
>kernel.
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
>_____________________________________________________________
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>
>
>> #
>> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
>> #
>> # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
>> # Kernel Configuration Files:
>> #
>> #    http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
>> #
>> # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
>> # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
>> # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
>> # latest information.
>> #
>> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
>> # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you
>are
>> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
>> #
>> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FWKERNEL,v 1 2001/01/25 22:45 Ben Ossei Exp
>$
>>
>> machine i386
>> cpu I386_CPU
>> cpu I486_CPU
>> cpu I586_CPU
>> cpu I686_CPU
>> ident FWKERNEL
>> maxusers 64
>>
>> # makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
>>
>> # options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation
>> options INET #InterNETworking
>> options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
>> options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
>> options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
>> options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
>> options MFS #Memory Filesystem
>> options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
>> # options NFS #Network Filesystem
>> # options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
>> # options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
>> options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem
>> options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
>> options PROCFS #Process filesystem
>> options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
>> options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
>> # options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console
>> options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor
>> options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
>> options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support
>> options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
>> options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
>> options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
>> options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
>> options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
>> options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies
>> options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV #install a CDEV entry in /dev
>> options IPFIREWALL
>> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
>> options IPDIVERT
>> options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
>> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
>> options IPFILTER
>> options IPFILTER_LOG
>>
>> # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
>> options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
>> options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
>>
>> device isa
>> device eisa
>> device pci
>>
>> # Floppy drives
>> device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
>> device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
>> # device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
>>
>> # ATA and ATAPI devices
>> device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
>> device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
>> device ata
>> device atadisk # ATA disk drives
>> device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
>> device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
>> device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
>> options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering
>> # options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
>>
>> # SCSI Controllers
>> # device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family
>> # device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
>> # device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
>> # device isp # Qlogic family
>> # device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
>> # device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
>> # options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
>> # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
>> # both sym and ncr are configured
>>
>> # device adv0 at isa?
>> # device adw
>> # device bt0 at isa?
>> # device aha0 at isa?
>> # device aic0 at isa?
>>
>> # device ncv # NCR 53C500
>> # device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
>> # device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50
>>
>> # SCSI peripherals
>> # device scbus # SCSI bus (required)
>> # device da # Direct Access (disks)
>> # device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
>> # device cd # CD
>> # device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
>>
>> # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
>> # device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
>> # device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
>> # device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
>>
>> # RAID controllers
>> # device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
>> # device amr # AMI MegaRAID
>> # device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family
>> # device twe # 3ware Escalade
>>
>> # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
>> device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
>> device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
>> device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12
>>
>> device vga0 at isa?
>>
>> # splash screen/screen saver
>> pseudo-device splash
>>
>> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
>> device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100
>>
>> # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
>> # device vt0 at isa?
>> # options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console
>> # options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor
>> # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT
>lines
>> # options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std
>>
>> # Floating point support - do not disable.
>> device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
>>
>> # Power management support (see LINT for more options)
>> device apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management
>>
>> # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
>> # device card
>> # device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
>> # device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable
>>
>> # Serial (COM) ports
>> device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
>> device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
>> device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
>> device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
>>
>> # Parallel port
>> device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
>> device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required)
>> device lpt # Printer
>> # device plip # TCP/IP over parallel
>> device ppi # Parallel port interface device
>> # device vpo # Requires scbus and da
>>
>>
>> # PCI Ethernet NICs.
>> # device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
>> device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
>> # device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
>> device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
>> # device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
>>
>> # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
>> # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these
>NICs!
>> device miibus # MII bus support
>> device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
>> # device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
>> # device rl # RealTek 8129/8139
>> # device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
>> # device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
>> # device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
>> # device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
>> # device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
>> # device wb # Winbond W89C840F
>> device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
>>
>> # ISA Ethernet NICs.
>> # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
>> # device ex
>> # device ep
>> # device fe0 at isa? port 0x300
>> # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really
>> # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed
>> # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code.
>> # device wi
>> # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will
>> # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP
>> # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
>> # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify
>> # those paremeters here.
>> # device an
>> # Xircom Ethernet
>> # device xe
>> # The probe order of these is presently determined by
>i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
>> # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
>> # device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
>> # device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
>> # device cs0 at isa? port 0x300
>> # device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
>>
>> # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
>> pseudo-device loop # Network loopback
>> pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support
>> # pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP
>> # pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP
>> # pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel.
>> pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
>> pseudo-device md # Memory "disks"
>> pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
>> pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
>>
>> # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
>> # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
>> pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter
>>
>> # USB support
>> # device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface
>> # device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface
>> device usb # USB Bus (required)
>> device ugen # Generic
>> device uhid # "Human Interface Devices"
>> device ukbd # Keyboard
>> device ulpt # Printer
>> # device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
>> device ums # Mouse
>> # device uscanner # Scanners
>> # USB Ethernet, requires mii
>> # device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet
>> # device cue # CATC USB ethernet
>> # device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
>>

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Well since both of us got what appears to be identical error messages
totally
independently I think the odds are there IS a "feature" there


----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>; <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: New Kernel install


> Do you think there's a bug in the software?
>
> --- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
> > wrote:
> >I tried the kernel compile in 4.2 earlier today & got similar response
....
> >looks like
> >some "feature" there that needs attention
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> >To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:23 PM
> >Subject: New Kernel install
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my machine.  I used the GENERIC
> >configuration as a starting point and added what I needed and commented
out
> >what I didn't want.  I was able to issue the command /usr/sbin/config -g
> >"newkernel" fine but when I go to build the kernel with the make depend
or
> >just make I get a stop error.  The error indicates that there's
unterminited
> >string or something to the effect and gives me this "#IF" for the
problem.
> >I've gone through my kernel config and can not see anything. I'm not very
> >good at this I should also say.
> >
> >I'm using Freebsd 4.2-Current.  This is my first custom kernel.  I've
> >attached the file for your viewing and hopefully  you can see my problem.
I
> >included the options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT for now to get the
machine
> >up and running.  I'll change this to DENY once I"m done and recompile the
> >kernel.
> >
> >Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >> #
> >> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
> >> #
> >> # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section
on
> >> # Kernel Configuration Files:
> >> #
> >> #    http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
> >> #
> >> # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
> >> # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
> >> # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
> >> # latest information.
> >> #
> >> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
> >> # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you
> >are
> >> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in
LINT.
> >> #
> >> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FWKERNEL,v 1 2001/01/25 22:45 Ben Ossei
Exp
> >$
> >>
> >> machine i386
> >> cpu I386_CPU
> >> cpu I486_CPU
> >> cpu I586_CPU
> >> cpu I686_CPU
> >> ident FWKERNEL
> >> maxusers 64
> >>
> >> # makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
> >>
> >> # options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation
> >> options INET #InterNETworking
> >> options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
> >> options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
> >> options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
> >> options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
> >> options MFS #Memory Filesystem
> >> options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
> >> # options NFS #Network Filesystem
> >> # options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
> >> # options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
> >> options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem
> >> options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
> >> options PROCFS #Process filesystem
> >> options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
> >> options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
> >> # options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console
> >> options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor
> >> options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
> >> options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support
> >> options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
> >> options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
> >> options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
> >> options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
> >> options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
> >> options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies
> >> options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV #install a CDEV entry in /dev
> >> options IPFIREWALL
> >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
> >> options IPDIVERT
> >> options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
> >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
> >> options IPFILTER
> >> options IPFILTER_LOG
> >>
> >> # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
> >> options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
> >> options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
> >>
> >> device isa
> >> device eisa
> >> device pci
> >>
> >> # Floppy drives
> >> device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
> >> device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
> >> # device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
> >>
> >> # ATA and ATAPI devices
> >> device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
> >> device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
> >> device ata
> >> device atadisk # ATA disk drives
> >> device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
> >> device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
> >> device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
> >> options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering
> >> # options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
> >>
> >> # SCSI Controllers
> >> # device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family
> >> # device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
> >> # device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
> >> # device isp # Qlogic family
> >> # device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
> >> # device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
> >> # options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
> >> # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
> >> # both sym and ncr are configured
> >>
> >> # device adv0 at isa?
> >> # device adw
> >> # device bt0 at isa?
> >> # device aha0 at isa?
> >> # device aic0 at isa?
> >>
> >> # device ncv # NCR 53C500
> >> # device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
> >> # device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50
> >>
> >> # SCSI peripherals
> >> # device scbus # SCSI bus (required)
> >> # device da # Direct Access (disks)
> >> # device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
> >> # device cd # CD
> >> # device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
> >>
> >> # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
> >> # device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
> >> # device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
> >> # device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
> >>
> >> # RAID controllers
> >> # device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
> >> # device amr # AMI MegaRAID
> >> # device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family
> >> # device twe # 3ware Escalade
> >>
> >> # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
> >> device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
> >> device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
> >> device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12
> >>
> >> device vga0 at isa?
> >>
> >> # splash screen/screen saver
> >> pseudo-device splash
> >>
> >> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
> >> device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100
> >>
> >> # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
> >> # device vt0 at isa?
> >> # options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console
> >> # options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor
> >> # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the
PCVT
> >lines
> >> # options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std
> >>
> >> # Floating point support - do not disable.
> >> device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
> >>
> >> # Power management support (see LINT for more options)
> >> device apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management
> >>
> >> # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
> >> # device card
> >> # device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
> >> # device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable
> >>
> >> # Serial (COM) ports
> >> device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
> >> device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
> >> device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
> >> device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
> >>
> >> # Parallel port
> >> device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> >> device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required)
> >> device lpt # Printer
> >> # device plip # TCP/IP over parallel
> >> device ppi # Parallel port interface device
> >> # device vpo # Requires scbus and da
> >>
> >>
> >> # PCI Ethernet NICs.
> >> # device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
> >> device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
> >> # device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
> >> device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
> >> # device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
> >>
> >> # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
> >> # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these
> >NICs!
> >> device miibus # MII bus support
> >> device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
> >> # device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
> >> # device rl # RealTek 8129/8139
> >> # device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
> >> # device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
> >> # device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
> >> # device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
> >> # device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
> >> # device wb # Winbond W89C840F
> >> device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
> >>
> >> # ISA Ethernet NICs.
> >> # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
> >> # device ex
> >> # device ep
> >> # device fe0 at isa? port 0x300
> >> # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really
> >> # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed
> >> # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code.
> >> # device wi
> >> # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below
will
> >> # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP
> >> # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
> >> # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify
> >> # those paremeters here.
> >> # device an
> >> # Xircom Ethernet
> >> # device xe
> >> # The probe order of these is presently determined by
> >i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
> >> # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
> >> # device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
> >> # device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
> >> # device cs0 at isa? port 0x300
> >> # device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
> >>
> >> # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
> >> pseudo-device loop # Network loopback
> >> pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support
> >> # pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP
> >> # pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP
> >> # pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel.
> >> pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
> >> pseudo-device md # Memory "disks"
> >> pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
> >> pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
> >>
> >> # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
> >> # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
> >> pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter
> >>
> >> # USB support
> >> # device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface
> >> # device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface
> >> device usb # USB Bus (required)
> >> device ugen # Generic
> >> device uhid # "Human Interface Devices"
> >> device ukbd # Keyboard
> >> device ulpt # Printer
> >> # device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
> >> device ums # Mouse
> >> # device uscanner # Scanners
> >> # USB Ethernet, requires mii
> >> # device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet
> >> # device cue # CATC USB ethernet
> >> # device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
> >>
>
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Did you cvsuped lately? Try cvsupping again and
use

make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
make installkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME


----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>; <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: New Kernel install


> Do you think there's a bug in the software?
>
> --- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
> > wrote:
> >I tried the kernel compile in 4.2 earlier today & got similar
response ....
> >looks like
> >some "feature" there that needs attention
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> >To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:23 PM
> >Subject: New Kernel install
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my machine.  I used the
GENERIC
> >configuration as a starting point and added what I needed and
commented out
> >what I didn't want.  I was able to issue the command
/usr/sbin/config -g
> >"newkernel" fine but when I go to build the kernel with the make
depend or
> >just make I get a stop error.  The error indicates that there's
unterminited
> >string or something to the effect and gives me this "#IF" for the
problem.
> >I've gone through my kernel config and can not see anything. I'm
not very
> >good at this I should also say.
> >
> >I'm using Freebsd 4.2-Current.  This is my first custom kernel.
I've
> >attached the file for your viewing and hopefully  you can see my
problem.  I
> >included the options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT for now to get
the machine
> >up and running.  I'll change this to DENY once I"m done and
recompile the
> >kernel.
> >
> >Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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>---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >----
> >
> >
> >> #
> >> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
> >> #
> >> # For more information on this file, please read the handbook
section on
> >> # Kernel Configuration Files:
> >> #
> >> #    http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
> >> #
> >> # The handbook is also available locally in
/usr/share/doc/handbook
> >> # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see
the
> >> # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
> >> # latest information.
> >> #
> >> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of
the
> >> # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file.
If you
> >are
> >> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first
in LINT.
> >> #
> >> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FWKERNEL,v 1 2001/01/25 22:45 Ben
Ossei Exp
> >$
> >>
> >> machine i386
> >> cpu I386_CPU
> >> cpu I486_CPU
> >> cpu I586_CPU
> >> cpu I686_CPU
> >> ident FWKERNEL
> >> maxusers 64
> >>
> >> # makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
> >>
> >> # options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation
> >> options INET #InterNETworking
> >> options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
> >> options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
> >> options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
> >> options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
> >> options MFS #Memory Filesystem
> >> options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
> >> # options NFS #Network Filesystem
> >> # options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
> >> # options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
> >> options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem
> >> options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
> >> options PROCFS #Process filesystem
> >> options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
> >> options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
> >> # options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console
> >> options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor
> >> options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
> >> options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support
> >> options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
> >> options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
> >> options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
> >> options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
> >> options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
> >> options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies
> >> options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV #install a CDEV entry in /dev
> >> options IPFIREWALL
> >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
> >> options IPDIVERT
> >> options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
> >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
> >> options IPFILTER
> >> options IPFILTER_LOG
> >>
> >> # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
> >> options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
> >> options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
> >>
> >> device isa
> >> device eisa
> >> device pci
> >>
> >> # Floppy drives
> >> device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
> >> device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
> >> # device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
> >>
> >> # ATA and ATAPI devices
> >> device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
> >> device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
> >> device ata
> >> device atadisk # ATA disk drives
> >> device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
> >> device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
> >> device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
> >> options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering
> >> # options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
> >>
> >> # SCSI Controllers
> >> # device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family
> >> # device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
> >> # device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
> >> # device isp # Qlogic family
> >> # device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
> >> # device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
> >> # options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
> >> # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
> >> # both sym and ncr are configured
> >>
> >> # device adv0 at isa?
> >> # device adw
> >> # device bt0 at isa?
> >> # device aha0 at isa?
> >> # device aic0 at isa?
> >>
> >> # device ncv # NCR 53C500
> >> # device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
> >> # device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50
> >>
> >> # SCSI peripherals
> >> # device scbus # SCSI bus (required)
> >> # device da # Direct Access (disks)
> >> # device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
> >> # device cd # CD
> >> # device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
> >>
> >> # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
> >> # device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
> >> # device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
> >> # device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
> >>
> >> # RAID controllers
> >> # device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
> >> # device amr # AMI MegaRAID
> >> # device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family
> >> # device twe # 3ware Escalade
> >>
> >> # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
> >> device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
> >> device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
> >> device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12
> >>
> >> device vga0 at isa?
> >>
> >> # splash screen/screen saver
> >> pseudo-device splash
> >>
> >> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO
console
> >> device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100
> >>
> >> # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console
driver
> >> # device vt0 at isa?
> >> # options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console
> >> # options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor
> >> # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of
the PCVT
> >lines
> >> # options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std
> >>
> >> # Floating point support - do not disable.
> >> device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
> >>
> >> # Power management support (see LINT for more options)
> >> device apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power
Management
> >>
> >> # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
> >> # device card
> >> # device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
> >> # device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable
> >>
> >> # Serial (COM) ports
> >> device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
> >> device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
> >> device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
> >> device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
> >>
> >> # Parallel port
> >> device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> >> device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required)
> >> device lpt # Printer
> >> # device plip # TCP/IP over parallel
> >> device ppi # Parallel port interface device
> >> # device vpo # Requires scbus and da
> >>
> >>
> >> # PCI Ethernet NICs.
> >> # device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
> >> device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
> >> # device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
> >> device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
> >> # device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
> >>
> >> # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
> >> # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use
these
> >NICs!
> >> device miibus # MII bus support
> >> device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
> >> # device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
> >> # device rl # RealTek 8129/8139
> >> # device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
> >> # device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
> >> # device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
> >> # device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
> >> # device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
> >> # device wb # Winbond W89C840F
> >> device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
> >>
> >> # ISA Ethernet NICs.
> >> # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
> >> # device ex
> >> # device ep
> >> # device fe0 at isa? port 0x300
> >> # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE
really
> >> # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement
needed
> >> # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard
code.
> >> # device wi
> >> # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration
below will
> >> # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA
PnP
> >> # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
> >> # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must
specify
> >> # those paremeters here.
> >> # device an
> >> # Xircom Ethernet
> >> # device xe
> >> # The probe order of these is presently determined by
> >i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
> >> # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
> >> # device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
> >> # device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
> >> # device cs0 at isa? port 0x300
> >> # device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
> >>
> >> # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to
allocated.
> >> pseudo-device loop # Network loopback
> >> pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support
> >> # pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP
> >> # pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP
> >> # pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel.
> >> pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
> >> pseudo-device md # Memory "disks"
> >> pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
> >> pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
> >>
> >> # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
> >> # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
> >> pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter
> >>
> >> # USB support
> >> # device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface
> >> # device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface
> >> device usb # USB Bus (required)
> >> device ugen # Generic
> >> device uhid # "Human Interface Devices"
> >> device ukbd # Keyboard
> >> device ulpt # Printer
> >> # device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
> >> device ums # Mouse
> >> # device uscanner # Scanners
> >> # USB Ethernet, requires mii
> >> # device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet
> >> # device cue # CATC USB ethernet
> >> # device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
> >>
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>
To: <ben@cahostnet.net>; "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>;
<questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: New Kernel install


> Did you cvsuped lately? Try cvsupping again and
> use
>
> make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
> make installkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>; <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: New Kernel install
>
>
> > Do you think there's a bug in the software?
> >
> > --- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
> > > wrote:
> > >I tried the kernel compile in 4.2 earlier today & got similar
> response ....
> > >looks like
> > >some "feature" there that needs attention
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> > >To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:23 PM
> > >Subject: New Kernel install
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my machine.  I used the
> GENERIC
> > >configuration as a starting point and added what I needed and
> commented out
> > >what I didn't want.  I was able to issue the command
> /usr/sbin/config -g
> > >"newkernel" fine but when I go to build the kernel with the make
> depend or
> > >just make I get a stop error.  The error indicates that there's
> unterminited
> > >string or something to the effect and gives me this "#IF" for the
> problem.
> > >I've gone through my kernel config and can not see anything. I'm
> not very
> > >good at this I should also say.
> > >
> > >I'm using Freebsd 4.2-Current.  This is my first custom kernel.
> I've
> > >attached the file for your viewing and hopefully  you can see my
> problem.  I
> > >included the options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT for now to get
> the machine
> > >up and running.  I'll change this to DENY once I"m done and
> recompile the
> > >kernel.
> > >
> > >Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------
> > >----
> > >
> > >
> > >> #
> > >> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
> > >> #
> > >> # For more information on this file, please read the handbook
> section on
> > >> # Kernel Configuration Files:
> > >> #
> > >> #    http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
> > >> #
> > >> # The handbook is also available locally in
> /usr/share/doc/handbook
> > >> # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see
> the
> > >> # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
> > >> # latest information.
> > >> #
> > >> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of
> the
> > >> # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file.
> If you
> > >are
> > >> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first
> in LINT.
> > >> #
> > >> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FWKERNEL,v 1 2001/01/25 22:45 Ben
> Ossei Exp
> > >$
> > >>
> > >> machine i386
> > >> cpu I386_CPU
> > >> cpu I486_CPU
> > >> cpu I586_CPU
> > >> cpu I686_CPU
> > >> ident FWKERNEL
> > >> maxusers 64
> > >>
> > >> # makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
> > >>
> > >> # options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation
> > >> options INET #InterNETworking
> > >> options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
> > >> options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
> > >> options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
> > >> options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
> > >> options MFS #Memory Filesystem
> > >> options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
> > >> # options NFS #Network Filesystem
> > >> # options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
> > >> # options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
> > >> options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem
> > >> options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
> > >> options PROCFS #Process filesystem
> > >> options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
> > >> options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
> > >> # options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console
> > >> options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor
> > >> options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
> > >> options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support
> > >> options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
> > >> options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
> > >> options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
> > >> options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
> > >> options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
> > >> options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies
> > >> options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV #install a CDEV entry in /dev
> > >> options IPFIREWALL
> > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
> > >> options IPDIVERT
> > >> options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
> > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
> > >> options IPFILTER
> > >> options IPFILTER_LOG
> > >>
> > >> # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
> > >> options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
> > >> options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
> > >>
> > >> device isa
> > >> device eisa
> > >> device pci
> > >>
> > >> # Floppy drives
> > >> device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
> > >> device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
> > >> # device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
> > >>
> > >> # ATA and ATAPI devices
> > >> device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
> > >> device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
> > >> device ata
> > >> device atadisk # ATA disk drives
> > >> device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
> > >> device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
> > >> device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
> > >> options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering
> > >> # options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
> > >>
> > >> # SCSI Controllers
> > >> # device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family
> > >> # device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
> > >> # device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
> > >> # device isp # Qlogic family
> > >> # device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
> > >> # device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
> > >> # options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
> > >> # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
> > >> # both sym and ncr are configured
> > >>
> > >> # device adv0 at isa?
> > >> # device adw
> > >> # device bt0 at isa?
> > >> # device aha0 at isa?
> > >> # device aic0 at isa?
> > >>
> > >> # device ncv # NCR 53C500
> > >> # device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
> > >> # device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50
> > >>
> > >> # SCSI peripherals
> > >> # device scbus # SCSI bus (required)
> > >> # device da # Direct Access (disks)
> > >> # device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
> > >> # device cd # CD
> > >> # device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
> > >>
> > >> # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
> > >> # device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
> > >> # device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
> > >> # device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
> > >>
> > >> # RAID controllers
> > >> # device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
> > >> # device amr # AMI MegaRAID
> > >> # device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family
> > >> # device twe # 3ware Escalade
> > >>
> > >> # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
> > >> device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
> > >> device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
> > >> device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12
> > >>
> > >> device vga0 at isa?
> > >>
> > >> # splash screen/screen saver
> > >> pseudo-device splash
> > >>
> > >> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO
> console
> > >> device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100
> > >>
> > >> # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console
> driver
> > >> # device vt0 at isa?
> > >> # options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console
> > >> # options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor
> > >> # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of
> the PCVT
> > >lines
> > >> # options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std
> > >>
> > >> # Floating point support - do not disable.
> > >> device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
> > >>
> > >> # Power management support (see LINT for more options)
> > >> device apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power
> Management
> > >>
> > >> # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
> > >> # device card
> > >> # device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
> > >> # device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable
> > >>
> > >> # Serial (COM) ports
> > >> device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
> > >> device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
> > >> device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
> > >> device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
> > >>
> > >> # Parallel port
> > >> device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> > >> device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required)
> > >> device lpt # Printer
> > >> # device plip # TCP/IP over parallel
> > >> device ppi # Parallel port interface device
> > >> # device vpo # Requires scbus and da
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs.
> > >> # device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
> > >> device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
> > >> # device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
> > >> device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
> > >> # device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
> > >>
> > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
> > >> # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use
> these
> > >NICs!
> > >> device miibus # MII bus support
> > >> device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
> > >> # device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
> > >> # device rl # RealTek 8129/8139
> > >> # device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
> > >> # device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
> > >> # device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
> > >> # device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
> > >> # device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
> > >> # device wb # Winbond W89C840F
> > >> device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
> > >>
> > >> # ISA Ethernet NICs.
> > >> # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
> > >> # device ex
> > >> # device ep
> > >> # device fe0 at isa? port 0x300
> > >> # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE
> really
> > >> # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement
> needed
> > >> # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard
> code.
> > >> # device wi
> > >> # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration
> below will
> > >> # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA
> PnP
> > >> # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
> > >> # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must
> specify
> > >> # those paremeters here.
> > >> # device an
> > >> # Xircom Ethernet
> > >> # device xe
> > >> # The probe order of these is presently determined by
> > >i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
> > >> # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
> > >> # device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
> > >> # device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
> > >> # device cs0 at isa? port 0x300
> > >> # device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
> > >>
> > >> # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to
> allocated.
> > >> pseudo-device loop # Network loopback
> > >> pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support
> > >> # pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP
> > >> # pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP
> > >> # pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel.
> > >> pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
> > >> pseudo-device md # Memory "disks"
> > >> pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
> > >> pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
> > >>
> > >> # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
> > >> # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
> > >> pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter
> > >>
> > >> # USB support
> > >> # device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface
> > >> # device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface
> > >> device usb # USB Bus (required)
> > >> device ugen # Generic
> > >> device uhid # "Human Interface Devices"
> > >> device ukbd # Keyboard
> > >> device ulpt # Printer
> > >> # device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
> > >> device ums # Mouse
> > >> # device uscanner # Scanners
> > >> # USB Ethernet, requires mii
> > >> # device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet
> > >> # device cue # CATC USB ethernet
> > >> # device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
> > >>
> >
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According to the handbook, "make buildkernel blah blah" is used after
buildworld.

Since that is NOT the case here (all thats been done is addition of a few
lines for IPFW) is it correct practive to run "buildkernel" instead of the
regular process specified in the handbook ??


----- Original Message -----
From: "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>
To: <ben@cahostnet.net>; "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>;
<questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: New Kernel install


> Did you cvsuped lately? Try cvsupping again and
> use
>
> make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
> make installkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>; <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: New Kernel install
>
>
> > Do you think there's a bug in the software?
> >
> > --- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
> > > wrote:
> > >I tried the kernel compile in 4.2 earlier today & got similar
> response ....
> > >looks like
> > >some "feature" there that needs attention
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> > >To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:23 PM
> > >Subject: New Kernel install
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my machine.  I used the
> GENERIC
> > >configuration as a starting point and added what I needed and
> commented out
> > >what I didn't want.  I was able to issue the command
> /usr/sbin/config -g
> > >"newkernel" fine but when I go to build the kernel with the make
> depend or
> > >just make I get a stop error.  The error indicates that there's
> unterminited
> > >string or something to the effect and gives me this "#IF" for the
> problem.
> > >I've gone through my kernel config and can not see anything. I'm
> not very
> > >good at this I should also say.
> > >
> > >I'm using Freebsd 4.2-Current.  This is my first custom kernel.
> I've
> > >attached the file for your viewing and hopefully  you can see my
> problem.  I
> > >included the options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT for now to get
> the machine
> > >up and running.  I'll change this to DENY once I"m done and
> recompile the
> > >kernel.
> > >
> > >Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >_____________________________________________________________
> > >========GET YOUR FREE E-MAIL============
> > >http://freemail.cahostnet.net
> > >Web Hosting http://www.cahostnet.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------
> > >----
> > >
> > >
> > >> #
> > >> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
> > >> #
> > >> # For more information on this file, please read the handbook
> section on
> > >> # Kernel Configuration Files:
> > >> #
> > >> #    http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
> > >> #
> > >> # The handbook is also available locally in
> /usr/share/doc/handbook
> > >> # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see
> the
> > >> # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
> > >> # latest information.
> > >> #
> > >> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of
> the
> > >> # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file.
> If you
> > >are
> > >> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first
> in LINT.
> > >> #
> > >> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FWKERNEL,v 1 2001/01/25 22:45 Ben
> Ossei Exp
> > >$
> > >>
> > >> machine i386
> > >> cpu I386_CPU
> > >> cpu I486_CPU
> > >> cpu I586_CPU
> > >> cpu I686_CPU
> > >> ident FWKERNEL
> > >> maxusers 64
> > >>
> > >> # makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
> > >>
> > >> # options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation
> > >> options INET #InterNETworking
> > >> options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
> > >> options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
> > >> options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
> > >> options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
> > >> options MFS #Memory Filesystem
> > >> options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
> > >> # options NFS #Network Filesystem
> > >> # options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
> > >> # options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
> > >> options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem
> > >> options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
> > >> options PROCFS #Process filesystem
> > >> options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
> > >> options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
> > >> # options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console
> > >> options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor
> > >> options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
> > >> options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support
> > >> options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
> > >> options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
> > >> options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
> > >> options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
> > >> options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
> > >> options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies
> > >> options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV #install a CDEV entry in /dev
> > >> options IPFIREWALL
> > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
> > >> options IPDIVERT
> > >> options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
> > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
> > >> options IPFILTER
> > >> options IPFILTER_LOG
> > >>
> > >> # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
> > >> options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
> > >> options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
> > >>
> > >> device isa
> > >> device eisa
> > >> device pci
> > >>
> > >> # Floppy drives
> > >> device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
> > >> device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
> > >> # device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
> > >>
> > >> # ATA and ATAPI devices
> > >> device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
> > >> device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
> > >> device ata
> > >> device atadisk # ATA disk drives
> > >> device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
> > >> device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
> > >> device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
> > >> options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering
> > >> # options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
> > >>
> > >> # SCSI Controllers
> > >> # device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family
> > >> # device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
> > >> # device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
> > >> # device isp # Qlogic family
> > >> # device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
> > >> # device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
> > >> # options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
> > >> # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
> > >> # both sym and ncr are configured
> > >>
> > >> # device adv0 at isa?
> > >> # device adw
> > >> # device bt0 at isa?
> > >> # device aha0 at isa?
> > >> # device aic0 at isa?
> > >>
> > >> # device ncv # NCR 53C500
> > >> # device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
> > >> # device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50
> > >>
> > >> # SCSI peripherals
> > >> # device scbus # SCSI bus (required)
> > >> # device da # Direct Access (disks)
> > >> # device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
> > >> # device cd # CD
> > >> # device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
> > >>
> > >> # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
> > >> # device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
> > >> # device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
> > >> # device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
> > >>
> > >> # RAID controllers
> > >> # device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
> > >> # device amr # AMI MegaRAID
> > >> # device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family
> > >> # device twe # 3ware Escalade
> > >>
> > >> # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
> > >> device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
> > >> device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
> > >> device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12
> > >>
> > >> device vga0 at isa?
> > >>
> > >> # splash screen/screen saver
> > >> pseudo-device splash
> > >>
> > >> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO
> console
> > >> device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100
> > >>
> > >> # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console
> driver
> > >> # device vt0 at isa?
> > >> # options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console
> > >> # options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor
> > >> # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of
> the PCVT
> > >lines
> > >> # options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std
> > >>
> > >> # Floating point support - do not disable.
> > >> device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
> > >>
> > >> # Power management support (see LINT for more options)
> > >> device apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power
> Management
> > >>
> > >> # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
> > >> # device card
> > >> # device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
> > >> # device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable
> > >>
> > >> # Serial (COM) ports
> > >> device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
> > >> device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
> > >> device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
> > >> device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
> > >>
> > >> # Parallel port
> > >> device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> > >> device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required)
> > >> device lpt # Printer
> > >> # device plip # TCP/IP over parallel
> > >> device ppi # Parallel port interface device
> > >> # device vpo # Requires scbus and da
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs.
> > >> # device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
> > >> device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
> > >> # device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
> > >> device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
> > >> # device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
> > >>
> > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
> > >> # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use
> these
> > >NICs!
> > >> device miibus # MII bus support
> > >> device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
> > >> # device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
> > >> # device rl # RealTek 8129/8139
> > >> # device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
> > >> # device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
> > >> # device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
> > >> # device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
> > >> # device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
> > >> # device wb # Winbond W89C840F
> > >> device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
> > >>
> > >> # ISA Ethernet NICs.
> > >> # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
> > >> # device ex
> > >> # device ep
> > >> # device fe0 at isa? port 0x300
> > >> # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE
> really
> > >> # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement
> needed
> > >> # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard
> code.
> > >> # device wi
> > >> # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration
> below will
> > >> # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA
> PnP
> > >> # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
> > >> # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must
> specify
> > >> # those paremeters here.
> > >> # device an
> > >> # Xircom Ethernet
> > >> # device xe
> > >> # The probe order of these is presently determined by
> > >i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
> > >> # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
> > >> # device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
> > >> # device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
> > >> # device cs0 at isa? port 0x300
> > >> # device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
> > >>
> > >> # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to
> allocated.
> > >> pseudo-device loop # Network loopback
> > >> pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support
> > >> # pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP
> > >> # pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP
> > >> # pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel.
> > >> pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
> > >> pseudo-device md # Memory "disks"
> > >> pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
> > >> pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
> > >>
> > >> # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
> > >> # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
> > >> pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter
> > >>
> > >> # USB support
> > >> # device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface
> > >> # device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface
> > >> device usb # USB Bus (required)
> > >> device ugen # Generic
> > >> device uhid # "Human Interface Devices"
> > >> device ukbd # Keyboard
> > >> device ulpt # Printer
> > >> # device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
> > >> device ums # Mouse
> > >> # device uscanner # Scanners
> > >> # USB Ethernet, requires mii
> > >> # device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet
> > >> # device cue # CATC USB ethernet
> > >> # device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
> > >>
> >
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To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>,
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This is a new install for me.  I first installed the 4.0-Current and then did another install from the FTP of the 4.2-Current.  I haven't CVSub yet at all.  I tried using tha command but it said it didn't know what to make.

--- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
> wrote:
>According to the handbook, "make buildkernel blah blah" is used after
>buildworld.
>
>Since that is NOT the case here (all thats been done is addition of a few
>lines for IPFW) is it correct practive to run "buildkernel" instead of the
>regular process specified in the handbook ??
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>
>To: <ben@cahostnet.net>; "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>;
><questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
>Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:42 PM
>Subject: Re: New Kernel install
>
>
>> Did you cvsuped lately? Try cvsupping again and
>> use
>>
>> make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
>> make installkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
>> To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>; <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: New Kernel install
>>
>>
>> > Do you think there's a bug in the software?
>> >
>> > --- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >I tried the kernel compile in 4.2 earlier today & got similar
>> response ....
>> > >looks like
>> > >some "feature" there that needs attention
>> > >
>> > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
>> > >To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
>> > >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:23 PM
>> > >Subject: New Kernel install
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Hi,
>> > >
>> > >I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my machine.  I used the
>> GENERIC
>> > >configuration as a starting point and added what I needed and
>> commented out
>> > >what I didn't want.  I was able to issue the command
>> /usr/sbin/config -g
>> > >"newkernel" fine but when I go to build the kernel with the make
>> depend or
>> > >just make I get a stop error.  The error indicates that there's
>> unterminited
>> > >string or something to the effect and gives me this "#IF" for the
>> problem.
>> > >I've gone through my kernel config and can not see anything. I'm
>> not very
>> > >good at this I should also say.
>> > >
>> > >I'm using Freebsd 4.2-Current.  This is my first custom kernel.
>> I've
>> > >attached the file for your viewing and hopefully  you can see my
>> problem.  I
>> > >included the options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT for now to get
>> the machine
>> > >up and running.  I'll change this to DENY once I"m done and
>> recompile the
>> > >kernel.
>> > >
>> > >Thanks for your help.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >_____________________________________________________________
>> > >========GET YOUR FREE E-MAIL============
>> > >http://freemail.cahostnet.net
>> > >Web Hosting http://www.cahostnet.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -------
>> > >----
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> #
>> > >> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
>> > >> #
>> > >> # For more information on this file, please read the handbook
>> section on
>> > >> # Kernel Configuration Files:
>> > >> #
>> > >> #    http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
>> > >> #
>> > >> # The handbook is also available locally in
>> /usr/share/doc/handbook
>> > >> # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see
>> the
>> > >> # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
>> > >> # latest information.
>> > >> #
>> > >> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of
>> the
>> > >> # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file.
>> If you
>> > >are
>> > >> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first
>> in LINT.
>> > >> #
>> > >> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FWKERNEL,v 1 2001/01/25 22:45 Ben
>> Ossei Exp
>> > >$
>> > >>
>> > >> machine i386
>> > >> cpu I386_CPU
>> > >> cpu I486_CPU
>> > >> cpu I586_CPU
>> > >> cpu I686_CPU
>> > >> ident FWKERNEL
>> > >> maxusers 64
>> > >>
>> > >> # makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
>> > >>
>> > >> # options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation
>> > >> options INET #InterNETworking
>> > >> options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
>> > >> options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
>> > >> options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
>> > >> options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
>> > >> options MFS #Memory Filesystem
>> > >> options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
>> > >> # options NFS #Network Filesystem
>> > >> # options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
>> > >> # options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
>> > >> options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem
>> > >> options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
>> > >> options PROCFS #Process filesystem
>> > >> options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
>> > >> options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
>> > >> # options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console
>> > >> options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor
>> > >> options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
>> > >> options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support
>> > >> options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
>> > >> options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
>> > >> options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
>> > >> options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
>> > >> options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
>> > >> options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies
>> > >> options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV #install a CDEV entry in /dev
>> > >> options IPFIREWALL
>> > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
>> > >> options IPDIVERT
>> > >> options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
>> > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
>> > >> options IPFILTER
>> > >> options IPFILTER_LOG
>> > >>
>> > >> # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
>> > >> options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
>> > >> options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
>> > >>
>> > >> device isa
>> > >> device eisa
>> > >> device pci
>> > >>
>> > >> # Floppy drives
>> > >> device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
>> > >> device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
>> > >> # device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
>> > >>
>> > >> # ATA and ATAPI devices
>> > >> device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
>> > >> device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
>> > >> device ata
>> > >> device atadisk # ATA disk drives
>> > >> device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
>> > >> device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
>> > >> device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
>> > >> options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering
>> > >> # options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
>> > >>
>> > >> # SCSI Controllers
>> > >> # device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family
>> > >> # device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
>> > >> # device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
>> > >> # device isp # Qlogic family
>> > >> # device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
>> > >> # device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
>> > >> # options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
>> > >> # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
>> > >> # both sym and ncr are configured
>> > >>
>> > >> # device adv0 at isa?
>> > >> # device adw
>> > >> # device bt0 at isa?
>> > >> # device aha0 at isa?
>> > >> # device aic0 at isa?
>> > >>
>> > >> # device ncv # NCR 53C500
>> > >> # device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
>> > >> # device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50
>> > >>
>> > >> # SCSI peripherals
>> > >> # device scbus # SCSI bus (required)
>> > >> # device da # Direct Access (disks)
>> > >> # device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
>> > >> # device cd # CD
>> > >> # device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
>> > >>
>> > >> # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
>> > >> # device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
>> > >> # device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
>> > >> # device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
>> > >>
>> > >> # RAID controllers
>> > >> # device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
>> > >> # device amr # AMI MegaRAID
>> > >> # device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family
>> > >> # device twe # 3ware Escalade
>> > >>
>> > >> # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
>> > >> device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
>> > >> device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
>> > >> device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12
>> > >>
>> > >> device vga0 at isa?
>> > >>
>> > >> # splash screen/screen saver
>> > >> pseudo-device splash
>> > >>
>> > >> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO
>> console
>> > >> device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100
>> > >>
>> > >> # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console
>> driver
>> > >> # device vt0 at isa?
>> > >> # options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console
>> > >> # options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor
>> > >> # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of
>> the PCVT
>> > >lines
>> > >> # options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std
>> > >>
>> > >> # Floating point support - do not disable.
>> > >> device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
>> > >>
>> > >> # Power management support (see LINT for more options)
>> > >> device apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power
>> Management
>> > >>
>> > >> # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
>> > >> # device card
>> > >> # device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
>> > >> # device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable
>> > >>
>> > >> # Serial (COM) ports
>> > >> device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
>> > >> device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
>> > >> device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
>> > >> device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
>> > >>
>> > >> # Parallel port
>> > >> device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
>> > >> device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required)
>> > >> device lpt # Printer
>> > >> # device plip # TCP/IP over parallel
>> > >> device ppi # Parallel port interface device
>> > >> # device vpo # Requires scbus and da
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs.
>> > >> # device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
>> > >> device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
>> > >> # device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
>> > >> device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
>> > >> # device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
>> > >>
>> > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
>> > >> # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use
>> these
>> > >NICs!
>> > >> device miibus # MII bus support
>> > >> device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
>> > >> # device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
>> > >> # device rl # RealTek 8129/8139
>> > >> # device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
>> > >> # device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
>> > >> # device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
>> > >> # device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
>> > >> # device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
>> > >> # device wb # Winbond W89C840F
>> > >> device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
>> > >>
>> > >> # ISA Ethernet NICs.
>> > >> # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
>> > >> # device ex
>> > >> # device ep
>> > >> # device fe0 at isa? port 0x300
>> > >> # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE
>> really
>> > >> # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement
>> needed
>> > >> # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard
>> code.
>> > >> # device wi
>> > >> # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration
>> below will
>> > >> # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA
>> PnP
>> > >> # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
>> > >> # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must
>> specify
>> > >> # those paremeters here.
>> > >> # device an
>> > >> # Xircom Ethernet
>> > >> # device xe
>> > >> # The probe order of these is presently determined by
>> > >i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
>> > >> # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
>> > >> # device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
>> > >> # device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
>> > >> # device cs0 at isa? port 0x300
>> > >> # device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
>> > >>
>> > >> # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to
>> allocated.
>> > >> pseudo-device loop # Network loopback
>> > >> pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support
>> > >> # pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP
>> > >> # pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP
>> > >> # pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel.
>> > >> pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
>> > >> pseudo-device md # Memory "disks"
>> > >> pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
>> > >> pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
>> > >>
>> > >> # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
>> > >> # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
>> > >> pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter
>> > >>
>> > >> # USB support
>> > >> # device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface
>> > >> # device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface
>> > >> device usb # USB Bus (required)
>> > >> device ugen # Generic
>> > >> device uhid # "Human Interface Devices"
>> > >> device ukbd # Keyboard
>> > >> device ulpt # Printer
>> > >> # device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
>> > >> device ums # Mouse
>> > >> # device uscanner # Scanners
>> > >> # USB Ethernet, requires mii
>> > >> # device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet
>> > >> # device cue # CATC USB ethernet
>> > >> # device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
>> > >>
>> >
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Hello,

Sorry for asking again :\ how to install JDK1_3_0
but I'm newbie to FreeBSD. As I said previously I
have FreeBSD 3.4-Release.

I go to www.freebsd.org -> Ported Apps ->
-> search for jdk
And I find: linux-jdk-1.3.0
That file is only 71kb!!! Is it realy jdk?!?!?!
If it is, then how do I install it???

Can someone describe to me how to install jdk1_3_0??

TIA

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I'd avoided messing with CVSUP until a month or so back .... only installed
it because I was getting continual errors when I attempted to install stuff
from ports. CVSUP didn't
change anything there though ..... ports that were broken before CVSUP are
still broken. Unless I see some good reason for CVSUP I probably wouldn't
bother with it again .... my FreeBSD systems are all quite basic things & I
can usually get everything I need off the original CD. Installing a fresh
version once a year is simple & straightforward.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>; "Artem Koutchine"
<matrix@ipform.ru>; <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: New Kernel install


> This is a new install for me.  I first installed the 4.0-Current and then
did another install from the FTP of the 4.2-Current.  I haven't CVSub yet at
all.  I tried using tha command but it said it didn't know what to make.
>
> --- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
> > wrote:
> >According to the handbook, "make buildkernel blah blah" is used after
> >buildworld.
> >
> >Since that is NOT the case here (all thats been done is addition of a few
> >lines for IPFW) is it correct practive to run "buildkernel" instead of
the
> >regular process specified in the handbook ??
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>
> >To: <ben@cahostnet.net>; "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>;
> ><questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:42 PM
> >Subject: Re: New Kernel install
> >
> >
> >> Did you cvsuped lately? Try cvsupping again and
> >> use
> >>
> >> make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
> >> make installkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> >> To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>; <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:35 PM
> >> Subject: Re: New Kernel install
> >>
> >>
> >> > Do you think there's a bug in the software?
> >> >
> >> > --- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >I tried the kernel compile in 4.2 earlier today & got similar
> >> response ....
> >> > >looks like
> >> > >some "feature" there that needs attention
> >> > >
> >> > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> >> > >To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >> > >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:23 PM
> >> > >Subject: New Kernel install
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > >I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my machine.  I used the
> >> GENERIC
> >> > >configuration as a starting point and added what I needed and
> >> commented out
> >> > >what I didn't want.  I was able to issue the command
> >> /usr/sbin/config -g
> >> > >"newkernel" fine but when I go to build the kernel with the make
> >> depend or
> >> > >just make I get a stop error.  The error indicates that there's
> >> unterminited
> >> > >string or something to the effect and gives me this "#IF" for the
> >> problem.
> >> > >I've gone through my kernel config and can not see anything. I'm
> >> not very
> >> > >good at this I should also say.
> >> > >
> >> > >I'm using Freebsd 4.2-Current.  This is my first custom kernel.
> >> I've
> >> > >attached the file for your viewing and hopefully  you can see my
> >> problem.  I
> >> > >included the options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT for now to get
> >> the machine
> >> > >up and running.  I'll change this to DENY once I"m done and
> >> recompile the
> >> > >kernel.
> >> > >
> >> > >Thanks for your help.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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> >> >
> >> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> -------
> >> > >----
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> #
> >> > >> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
> >> > >> #
> >> > >> # For more information on this file, please read the handbook
> >> section on
> >> > >> # Kernel Configuration Files:
> >> > >> #
> >> > >> #    http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
> >> > >> #
> >> > >> # The handbook is also available locally in
> >> /usr/share/doc/handbook
> >> > >> # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see
> >> the
> >> > >> # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
> >> > >> # latest information.
> >> > >> #
> >> > >> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of
> >> the
> >> > >> # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file.
> >> If you
> >> > >are
> >> > >> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first
> >> in LINT.
> >> > >> #
> >> > >> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FWKERNEL,v 1 2001/01/25 22:45 Ben
> >> Ossei Exp
> >> > >$
> >> > >>
> >> > >> machine i386
> >> > >> cpu I386_CPU
> >> > >> cpu I486_CPU
> >> > >> cpu I586_CPU
> >> > >> cpu I686_CPU
> >> > >> ident FWKERNEL
> >> > >> maxusers 64
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation
> >> > >> options INET #InterNETworking
> >> > >> options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
> >> > >> options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
> >> > >> options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
> >> > >> options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
> >> > >> options MFS #Memory Filesystem
> >> > >> options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
> >> > >> # options NFS #Network Filesystem
> >> > >> # options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
> >> > >> # options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
> >> > >> options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem
> >> > >> options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
> >> > >> options PROCFS #Process filesystem
> >> > >> options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
> >> > >> options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
> >> > >> # options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console
> >> > >> options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor
> >> > >> options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
> >> > >> options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support
> >> > >> options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
> >> > >> options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
> >> > >> options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
> >> > >> options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
> >> > >> options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
> >> > >> options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies
> >> > >> options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV #install a CDEV entry in /dev
> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL
> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
> >> > >> options IPDIVERT
> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
> >> > >> options IPFILTER
> >> > >> options IPFILTER_LOG
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
> >> > >> options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
> >> > >> options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
> >> > >>
> >> > >> device isa
> >> > >> device eisa
> >> > >> device pci
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # Floppy drives
> >> > >> device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
> >> > >> device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
> >> > >> # device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # ATA and ATAPI devices
> >> > >> device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
> >> > >> device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
> >> > >> device ata
> >> > >> device atadisk # ATA disk drives
> >> > >> device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
> >> > >> device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
> >> > >> device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
> >> > >> options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering
> >> > >> # options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # SCSI Controllers
> >> > >> # device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family
> >> > >> # device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
> >> > >> # device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
> >> > >> # device isp # Qlogic family
> >> > >> # device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
> >> > >> # device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
> >> > >> # options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
> >> > >> # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
> >> > >> # both sym and ncr are configured
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # device adv0 at isa?
> >> > >> # device adw
> >> > >> # device bt0 at isa?
> >> > >> # device aha0 at isa?
> >> > >> # device aic0 at isa?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # device ncv # NCR 53C500
> >> > >> # device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
> >> > >> # device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # SCSI peripherals
> >> > >> # device scbus # SCSI bus (required)
> >> > >> # device da # Direct Access (disks)
> >> > >> # device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
> >> > >> # device cd # CD
> >> > >> # device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
> >> > >> # device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
> >> > >> # device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
> >> > >> # device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # RAID controllers
> >> > >> # device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
> >> > >> # device amr # AMI MegaRAID
> >> > >> # device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family
> >> > >> # device twe # 3ware Escalade
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
> >> > >> device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
> >> > >> device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
> >> > >> device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12
> >> > >>
> >> > >> device vga0 at isa?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # splash screen/screen saver
> >> > >> pseudo-device splash
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO
> >> console
> >> > >> device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console
> >> driver
> >> > >> # device vt0 at isa?
> >> > >> # options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console
> >> > >> # options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor
> >> > >> # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of
> >> the PCVT
> >> > >lines
> >> > >> # options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # Floating point support - do not disable.
> >> > >> device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # Power management support (see LINT for more options)
> >> > >> device apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power
> >> Management
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
> >> > >> # device card
> >> > >> # device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
> >> > >> # device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # Serial (COM) ports
> >> > >> device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
> >> > >> device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
> >> > >> device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
> >> > >> device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # Parallel port
> >> > >> device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> >> > >> device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required)
> >> > >> device lpt # Printer
> >> > >> # device plip # TCP/IP over parallel
> >> > >> device ppi # Parallel port interface device
> >> > >> # device vpo # Requires scbus and da
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs.
> >> > >> # device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
> >> > >> device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
> >> > >> # device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
> >> > >> device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
> >> > >> # device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
> >> > >> # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use
> >> these
> >> > >NICs!
> >> > >> device miibus # MII bus support
> >> > >> device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
> >> > >> # device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
> >> > >> # device rl # RealTek 8129/8139
> >> > >> # device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
> >> > >> # device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
> >> > >> # device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
> >> > >> # device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
> >> > >> # device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
> >> > >> # device wb # Winbond W89C840F
> >> > >> device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # ISA Ethernet NICs.
> >> > >> # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
> >> > >> # device ex
> >> > >> # device ep
> >> > >> # device fe0 at isa? port 0x300
> >> > >> # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE
> >> really
> >> > >> # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement
> >> needed
> >> > >> # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard
> >> code.
> >> > >> # device wi
> >> > >> # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration
> >> below will
> >> > >> # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA
> >> PnP
> >> > >> # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
> >> > >> # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must
> >> specify
> >> > >> # those paremeters here.
> >> > >> # device an
> >> > >> # Xircom Ethernet
> >> > >> # device xe
> >> > >> # The probe order of these is presently determined by
> >> > >i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
> >> > >> # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
> >> > >> # device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
> >> > >> # device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
> >> > >> # device cs0 at isa? port 0x300
> >> > >> # device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to
> >> allocated.
> >> > >> pseudo-device loop # Network loopback
> >> > >> pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support
> >> > >> # pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP
> >> > >> # pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP
> >> > >> # pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel.
> >> > >> pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
> >> > >> pseudo-device md # Memory "disks"
> >> > >> pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
> >> > >> pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
> >> > >> # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
> >> > >> pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # USB support
> >> > >> # device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface
> >> > >> # device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface
> >> > >> device usb # USB Bus (required)
> >> > >> device ugen # Generic
> >> > >> device uhid # "Human Interface Devices"
> >> > >> device ukbd # Keyboard
> >> > >> device ulpt # Printer
> >> > >> # device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
> >> > >> device ums # Mouse
> >> > >> # device uscanner # Scanners
> >> > >> # USB Ethernet, requires mii
> >> > >> # device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet
> >> > >> # device cue # CATC USB ethernet
> >> > >> # device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
> >> > >>
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Fri Jan 26  5:32:38 2001
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try this:
cd /usr/src
make buildkernel KERNEL=kernelname
make installkernel KERNEL=kernelname

even thought it is usually used to build kernel after make
build, IMHO this is the best way to build kernel anytime.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>; "Artem Koutchine"
<matrix@ipform.ru>; <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: New Kernel install


> This is a new install for me.  I first installed the 4.0-Current and
then did another install from the FTP of the 4.2-Current.  I haven't
CVSub yet at all.  I tried using tha command but it said it didn't
know what to make.
>
> --- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
> > wrote:
> >According to the handbook, "make buildkernel blah blah" is used
after
> >buildworld.
> >
> >Since that is NOT the case here (all thats been done is addition of
a few
> >lines for IPFW) is it correct practive to run "buildkernel" instead
of the
> >regular process specified in the handbook ??
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>
> >To: <ben@cahostnet.net>; "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>;
> ><questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:42 PM
> >Subject: Re: New Kernel install
> >
> >
> >> Did you cvsuped lately? Try cvsupping again and
> >> use
> >>
> >> make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
> >> make installkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> >> To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>;
<questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:35 PM
> >> Subject: Re: New Kernel install
> >>
> >>
> >> > Do you think there's a bug in the software?
> >> >
> >> > --- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >I tried the kernel compile in 4.2 earlier today & got similar
> >> response ....
> >> > >looks like
> >> > >some "feature" there that needs attention
> >> > >
> >> > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> >> > >To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >> > >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:23 PM
> >> > >Subject: New Kernel install
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > >I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my machine.  I used the
> >> GENERIC
> >> > >configuration as a starting point and added what I needed and
> >> commented out
> >> > >what I didn't want.  I was able to issue the command
> >> /usr/sbin/config -g
> >> > >"newkernel" fine but when I go to build the kernel with the
make
> >> depend or
> >> > >just make I get a stop error.  The error indicates that
there's
> >> unterminited
> >> > >string or something to the effect and gives me this "#IF" for
the
> >> problem.
> >> > >I've gone through my kernel config and can not see anything.
I'm
> >> not very
> >> > >good at this I should also say.
> >> > >
> >> > >I'm using Freebsd 4.2-Current.  This is my first custom
kernel.
> >> I've
> >> > >attached the file for your viewing and hopefully  you can see
my
> >> problem.  I
> >> > >included the options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT for now to
get
> >> the machine
> >> > >up and running.  I'll change this to DENY once I"m done and
> >> recompile the
> >> > >kernel.
> >> > >
> >> > >Thanks for your help.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> -------
> >> > >----
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> #
> >> > >> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for
FreeBSD/i386
> >> > >> #
> >> > >> # For more information on this file, please read the
handbook
> >> section on
> >> > >> # Kernel Configuration Files:
> >> > >> #
> >> > >> #
http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
> >> > >> #
> >> > >> # The handbook is also available locally in
> >> /usr/share/doc/handbook
> >> > >> # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always
see
> >> the
> >> > >> # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/)
for the
> >> > >> # latest information.
> >> > >> #
> >> > >> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed
explanations of
> >> the
> >> > >> # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration
file.
> >> If you
> >> > >are
> >> > >> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check
first
> >> in LINT.
> >> > >> #
> >> > >> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FWKERNEL,v 1 2001/01/25 22:45
Ben
> >> Ossei Exp
> >> > >$
> >> > >>
> >> > >> machine i386
> >> > >> cpu I386_CPU
> >> > >> cpu I486_CPU
> >> > >> cpu I586_CPU
> >> > >> cpu I686_CPU
> >> > >> ident FWKERNEL
> >> > >> maxusers 64
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug
symbols
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation
> >> > >> options INET #InterNETworking
> >> > >> options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
> >> > >> options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
> >> > >> options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
> >> > >> options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
> >> > >> options MFS #Memory Filesystem
> >> > >> options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
> >> > >> # options NFS #Network Filesystem
> >> > >> # options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
> >> > >> # options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
> >> > >> options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem
> >> > >> options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
> >> > >> options PROCFS #Process filesystem
> >> > >> options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
> >> > >> options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
> >> > >> # options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console
> >> > >> options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor
> >> > >> options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
> >> > >> options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support
> >> > >> options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
> >> > >> options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
> >> > >> options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
> >> > >> options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
> >> > >> options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
> >> > >> options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies
> >> > >> options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV #install a CDEV entry in /dev
> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL
> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
> >> > >> options IPDIVERT
> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
> >> > >> options IPFILTER
> >> > >> options IPFILTER_LOG
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
> >> > >> options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
> >> > >> options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
> >> > >>
> >> > >> device isa
> >> > >> device eisa
> >> > >> device pci
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # Floppy drives
> >> > >> device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
> >> > >> device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
> >> > >> # device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # ATA and ATAPI devices
> >> > >> device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
> >> > >> device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
> >> > >> device ata
> >> > >> device atadisk # ATA disk drives
> >> > >> device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
> >> > >> device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
> >> > >> device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
> >> > >> options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering
> >> > >> # options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # SCSI Controllers
> >> > >> # device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family
> >> > >> # device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
> >> > >> # device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
> >> > >> # device isp # Qlogic family
> >> > >> # device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
> >> > >> # device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
> >> > >> # options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
> >> > >> # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
> >> > >> # both sym and ncr are configured
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # device adv0 at isa?
> >> > >> # device adw
> >> > >> # device bt0 at isa?
> >> > >> # device aha0 at isa?
> >> > >> # device aic0 at isa?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # device ncv # NCR 53C500
> >> > >> # device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
> >> > >> # device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # SCSI peripherals
> >> > >> # device scbus # SCSI bus (required)
> >> > >> # device da # Direct Access (disks)
> >> > >> # device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
> >> > >> # device cd # CD
> >> > >> # device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
> >> > >> # device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
> >> > >> # device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
> >> > >> # device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # RAID controllers
> >> > >> # device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
> >> > >> # device amr # AMI MegaRAID
> >> > >> # device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family
> >> > >> # device twe # 3ware Escalade
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
> >> > >> device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
> >> > >> device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
> >> > >> device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12
> >> > >>
> >> > >> device vga0 at isa?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # splash screen/screen saver
> >> > >> pseudo-device splash
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO
> >> console
> >> > >> device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible
console
> >> driver
> >> > >> # device vt0 at isa?
> >> > >> # options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console
> >> > >> # options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor
> >> > >> # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest
of
> >> the PCVT
> >> > >lines
> >> > >> # options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # Floating point support - do not disable.
> >> > >> device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # Power management support (see LINT for more options)
> >> > >> device apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power
> >> Management
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
> >> > >> # device card
> >> > >> # device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
> >> > >> # device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000
disable
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # Serial (COM) ports
> >> > >> device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
> >> > >> device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
> >> > >> device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
> >> > >> device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # Parallel port
> >> > >> device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> >> > >> device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required)
> >> > >> device lpt # Printer
> >> > >> # device plip # TCP/IP over parallel
> >> > >> device ppi # Parallel port interface device
> >> > >> # device vpo # Requires scbus and da
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs.
> >> > >> # device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
> >> > >> device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
> >> > >> # device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
> >> > >> device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
> >> > >> # device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller
code.
> >> > >> # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to
use
> >> these
> >> > >NICs!
> >> > >> device miibus # MII bus support
> >> > >> device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
> >> > >> # device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
> >> > >> # device rl # RealTek 8129/8139
> >> > >> # device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
> >> > >> # device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
> >> > >> # device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
> >> > >> # device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
> >> > >> # device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
> >> > >> # device wb # Winbond W89C840F
> >> > >> device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # ISA Ethernet NICs.
> >> > >> # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
> >> > >> # device ex
> >> > >> # device ep
> >> > >> # device fe0 at isa? port 0x300
> >> > >> # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE
> >> really
> >> > >> # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA
attatement
> >> needed
> >> > >> # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the
pccard
> >> code.
> >> > >> # device wi
> >> > >> # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the
declaration
> >> below will
> >> > >> # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to
ISA
> >> PnP
> >> > >> # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on
your ISA
> >> > >> # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must
> >> specify
> >> > >> # those paremeters here.
> >> > >> # device an
> >> > >> # Xircom Ethernet
> >> > >> # device xe
> >> > >> # The probe order of these is presently determined by
> >> > >i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
> >> > >> # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
> >> > >> # device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
> >> > >> # device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
> >> > >> # device cs0 at isa? port 0x300
> >> > >> # device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to
> >> allocated.
> >> > >> pseudo-device loop # Network loopback
> >> > >> pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support
> >> > >> # pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP
> >> > >> # pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP
> >> > >> # pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel.
> >> > >> pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
> >> > >> pseudo-device md # Memory "disks"
> >> > >> pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
> >> > >> pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet
Filter.
> >> > >> # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling
this!
> >> > >> pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter
> >> > >>
> >> > >> # USB support
> >> > >> # device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface
> >> > >> # device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface
> >> > >> device usb # USB Bus (required)
> >> > >> device ugen # Generic
> >> > >> device uhid # "Human Interface Devices"
> >> > >> device ukbd # Keyboard
> >> > >> device ulpt # Printer
> >> > >> # device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
> >> > >> device ums # Mouse
> >> > >> # device uscanner # Scanners
> >> > >> # USB Ethernet, requires mii
> >> > >> # device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet
> >> > >> # device cue # CATC USB ethernet
> >> > >> # device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
> >> > >>
> >> >
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Fri Jan 26  5:33:21 2001
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As i said, try cvsupping again. Your source might be broken.
It happened to me several times.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
To: "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>; <ben@cahostnet.net>;
<questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: New Kernel install


> My cvsup updates ports every week & source every day
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>
> To: <ben@cahostnet.net>; "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>;
> <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:42 PM
> Subject: Re: New Kernel install
>
>
> > Did you cvsuped lately? Try cvsupping again and
> > use
> >
> > make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
> > make installkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> > To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>;
<questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: New Kernel install
> >
> >
> > > Do you think there's a bug in the software?
> > >
> > > --- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >I tried the kernel compile in 4.2 earlier today & got similar
> > response ....
> > > >looks like
> > > >some "feature" there that needs attention
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> > > >To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:23 PM
> > > >Subject: New Kernel install
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my machine.  I used the
> > GENERIC
> > > >configuration as a starting point and added what I needed and
> > commented out
> > > >what I didn't want.  I was able to issue the command
> > /usr/sbin/config -g
> > > >"newkernel" fine but when I go to build the kernel with the
make
> > depend or
> > > >just make I get a stop error.  The error indicates that there's
> > unterminited
> > > >string or something to the effect and gives me this "#IF" for
the
> > problem.
> > > >I've gone through my kernel config and can not see anything.
I'm
> > not very
> > > >good at this I should also say.
> > > >
> > > >I'm using Freebsd 4.2-Current.  This is my first custom kernel.
> > I've
> > > >attached the file for your viewing and hopefully  you can see
my
> > problem.  I
> > > >included the options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT for now to
get
> > the machine
> > > >up and running.  I'll change this to DENY once I"m done and
> > recompile the
> > > >kernel.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for your help.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -------
> > > >----
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> #
> > > >> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for
FreeBSD/i386
> > > >> #
> > > >> # For more information on this file, please read the handbook
> > section on
> > > >> # Kernel Configuration Files:
> > > >> #
> > > >> #    http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
> > > >> #
> > > >> # The handbook is also available locally in
> > /usr/share/doc/handbook
> > > >> # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always
see
> > the
> > > >> # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for
the
> > > >> # latest information.
> > > >> #
> > > >> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed
explanations of
> > the
> > > >> # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration
file.
> > If you
> > > >are
> > > >> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check
first
> > in LINT.
> > > >> #
> > > >> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FWKERNEL,v 1 2001/01/25 22:45
Ben
> > Ossei Exp
> > > >$
> > > >>
> > > >> machine i386
> > > >> cpu I386_CPU
> > > >> cpu I486_CPU
> > > >> cpu I586_CPU
> > > >> cpu I686_CPU
> > > >> ident FWKERNEL
> > > >> maxusers 64
> > > >>
> > > >> # makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug
symbols
> > > >>
> > > >> # options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation
> > > >> options INET #InterNETworking
> > > >> options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
> > > >> options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
> > > >> options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
> > > >> options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
> > > >> options MFS #Memory Filesystem
> > > >> options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
> > > >> # options NFS #Network Filesystem
> > > >> # options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
> > > >> # options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
> > > >> options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem
> > > >> options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
> > > >> options PROCFS #Process filesystem
> > > >> options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
> > > >> options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
> > > >> # options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console
> > > >> options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor
> > > >> options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
> > > >> options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support
> > > >> options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
> > > >> options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
> > > >> options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
> > > >> options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
> > > >> options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
> > > >> options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies
> > > >> options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV #install a CDEV entry in /dev
> > > >> options IPFIREWALL
> > > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
> > > >> options IPDIVERT
> > > >> options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
> > > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
> > > >> options IPFILTER
> > > >> options IPFILTER_LOG
> > > >>
> > > >> # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
> > > >> options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
> > > >> options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
> > > >>
> > > >> device isa
> > > >> device eisa
> > > >> device pci
> > > >>
> > > >> # Floppy drives
> > > >> device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
> > > >> device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
> > > >> # device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
> > > >>
> > > >> # ATA and ATAPI devices
> > > >> device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
> > > >> device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
> > > >> device ata
> > > >> device atadisk # ATA disk drives
> > > >> device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
> > > >> device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
> > > >> device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
> > > >> options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering
> > > >> # options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
> > > >>
> > > >> # SCSI Controllers
> > > >> # device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family
> > > >> # device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
> > > >> # device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
> > > >> # device isp # Qlogic family
> > > >> # device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
> > > >> # device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
> > > >> # options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
> > > >> # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
> > > >> # both sym and ncr are configured
> > > >>
> > > >> # device adv0 at isa?
> > > >> # device adw
> > > >> # device bt0 at isa?
> > > >> # device aha0 at isa?
> > > >> # device aic0 at isa?
> > > >>
> > > >> # device ncv # NCR 53C500
> > > >> # device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
> > > >> # device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50
> > > >>
> > > >> # SCSI peripherals
> > > >> # device scbus # SCSI bus (required)
> > > >> # device da # Direct Access (disks)
> > > >> # device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
> > > >> # device cd # CD
> > > >> # device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
> > > >>
> > > >> # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
> > > >> # device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
> > > >> # device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
> > > >> # device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
> > > >>
> > > >> # RAID controllers
> > > >> # device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
> > > >> # device amr # AMI MegaRAID
> > > >> # device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family
> > > >> # device twe # 3ware Escalade
> > > >>
> > > >> # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
> > > >> device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
> > > >> device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
> > > >> device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12
> > > >>
> > > >> device vga0 at isa?
> > > >>
> > > >> # splash screen/screen saver
> > > >> pseudo-device splash
> > > >>
> > > >> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO
> > console
> > > >> device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100
> > > >>
> > > >> # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible
console
> > driver
> > > >> # device vt0 at isa?
> > > >> # options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console
> > > >> # options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor
> > > >> # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest
of
> > the PCVT
> > > >lines
> > > >> # options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std
> > > >>
> > > >> # Floating point support - do not disable.
> > > >> device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
> > > >>
> > > >> # Power management support (see LINT for more options)
> > > >> device apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power
> > Management
> > > >>
> > > >> # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
> > > >> # device card
> > > >> # device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
> > > >> # device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable
> > > >>
> > > >> # Serial (COM) ports
> > > >> device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
> > > >> device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
> > > >> device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
> > > >> device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
> > > >>
> > > >> # Parallel port
> > > >> device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> > > >> device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required)
> > > >> device lpt # Printer
> > > >> # device plip # TCP/IP over parallel
> > > >> device ppi # Parallel port interface device
> > > >> # device vpo # Requires scbus and da
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs.
> > > >> # device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
> > > >> device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
> > > >> # device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
> > > >> device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
> > > >> # device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
> > > >>
> > > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller
code.
> > > >> # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to
use
> > these
> > > >NICs!
> > > >> device miibus # MII bus support
> > > >> device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
> > > >> # device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
> > > >> # device rl # RealTek 8129/8139
> > > >> # device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
> > > >> # device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
> > > >> # device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
> > > >> # device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
> > > >> # device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
> > > >> # device wb # Winbond W89C840F
> > > >> device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
> > > >>
> > > >> # ISA Ethernet NICs.
> > > >> # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
> > > >> # device ex
> > > >> # device ep
> > > >> # device fe0 at isa? port 0x300
> > > >> # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE
> > really
> > > >> # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA
attatement
> > needed
> > > >> # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the
pccard
> > code.
> > > >> # device wi
> > > >> # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the
declaration
> > below will
> > > >> # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to
ISA
> > PnP
> > > >> # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your
ISA
> > > >> # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must
> > specify
> > > >> # those paremeters here.
> > > >> # device an
> > > >> # Xircom Ethernet
> > > >> # device xe
> > > >> # The probe order of these is presently determined by
> > > >i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
> > > >> # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
> > > >> # device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
> > > >> # device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
> > > >> # device cs0 at isa? port 0x300
> > > >> # device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
> > > >>
> > > >> # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to
> > allocated.
> > > >> pseudo-device loop # Network loopback
> > > >> pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support
> > > >> # pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP
> > > >> # pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP
> > > >> # pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel.
> > > >> pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
> > > >> pseudo-device md # Memory "disks"
> > > >> pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
> > > >> pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
> > > >>
> > > >> # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
> > > >> # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling
this!
> > > >> pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter
> > > >>
> > > >> # USB support
> > > >> # device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface
> > > >> # device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface
> > > >> device usb # USB Bus (required)
> > > >> device ugen # Generic
> > > >> device uhid # "Human Interface Devices"
> > > >> device ukbd # Keyboard
> > > >> device ulpt # Printer
> > > >> # device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
> > > >> device ums # Mouse
> > > >> # device uscanner # Scanners
> > > >> # USB Ethernet, requires mii
> > > >> # device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet
> > > >> # device cue # CATC USB ethernet
> > > >> # device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
> > > >>
> > >
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This is from /var/log/messages:

Jan 25 16:57:10 hostname Jan 25 16:57:10pppd[: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[86697]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
protocol 0xd
Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[90208]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
protocol 0xd
Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[89915]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
protocol 0xd
Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[90127]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
protocol 0xd
Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[90180]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
protocol 0xd
Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[87759]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
protocol 0xd
Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[86720]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
protocol 0xd
...

Krassimir Slavchev

> Hello,
>
> I run dial-in server, using FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE and Cyclades-Ye board.
> The system run without any problems, but after 20-30 days or more I get
> message like this:
>
> Message from syslogd@hostname at Thu Jan 25 16:57:10 2001 ...
> hostname Jan 25 16:57:10pppd[: Hangup (SIGHUP)
>
> and all pppd daemons get SIGHUP.
>
> With my old dial-in server, running FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE, I had the same
> problem and some others with cy driver (silo overflow). The FreeBSD
> 2.2.8-STABLE and 3.5-STABLE use pppd-2.3.5.
>
> I thing that is bug in pppd-2.3.5.
>
> Can anyone confirm this?
>
> PS: Sorry, my englysh is too bad.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Krassimir Slavchev





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I tried this and it said "don't know how to make kernel. Stop".

--- "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>
> wrote:
>try this:
>cd /usr/src
>make buildkernel KERNEL=kernelname
>make installkernel KERNEL=kernelname
>
>even thought it is usually used to build kernel after make
>build, IMHO this is the best way to build kernel anytime.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
>To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>; "Artem Koutchine"
><matrix@ipform.ru>; <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
>Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 4:05 PM
>Subject: Re: New Kernel install
>
>
>> This is a new install for me.  I first installed the 4.0-Current and
>then did another install from the FTP of the 4.2-Current.  I haven't
>CVSub yet at all.  I tried using tha command but it said it didn't
>know what to make.
>>
>> --- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
>> > wrote:
>> >According to the handbook, "make buildkernel blah blah" is used
>after
>> >buildworld.
>> >
>> >Since that is NOT the case here (all thats been done is addition of
>a few
>> >lines for IPFW) is it correct practive to run "buildkernel" instead
>of the
>> >regular process specified in the handbook ??
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>
>> >To: <ben@cahostnet.net>; "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>;
>> ><questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
>> >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:42 PM
>> >Subject: Re: New Kernel install
>> >
>> >
>> >> Did you cvsuped lately? Try cvsupping again and
>> >> use
>> >>
>> >> make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
>> >> make installkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
>> >> To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>;
><questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
>> >> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:35 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: New Kernel install
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Do you think there's a bug in the software?
>> >> >
>> >> > --- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > >I tried the kernel compile in 4.2 earlier today & got similar
>> >> response ....
>> >> > >looks like
>> >> > >some "feature" there that needs attention
>> >> > >
>> >> > >----- Original Message -----
>> >> > >From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
>> >> > >To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
>> >> > >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:23 PM
>> >> > >Subject: New Kernel install
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Hi,
>> >> > >
>> >> > >I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my machine.  I used the
>> >> GENERIC
>> >> > >configuration as a starting point and added what I needed and
>> >> commented out
>> >> > >what I didn't want.  I was able to issue the command
>> >> /usr/sbin/config -g
>> >> > >"newkernel" fine but when I go to build the kernel with the
>make
>> >> depend or
>> >> > >just make I get a stop error.  The error indicates that
>there's
>> >> unterminited
>> >> > >string or something to the effect and gives me this "#IF" for
>the
>> >> problem.
>> >> > >I've gone through my kernel config and can not see anything.
>I'm
>> >> not very
>> >> > >good at this I should also say.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >I'm using Freebsd 4.2-Current.  This is my first custom
>kernel.
>> >> I've
>> >> > >attached the file for your viewing and hopefully  you can see
>my
>> >> problem.  I
>> >> > >included the options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT for now to
>get
>> >> the machine
>> >> > >up and running.  I'll change this to DENY once I"m done and
>> >> recompile the
>> >> > >kernel.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Thanks for your help.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
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>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> -------
>> >> > >----
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> #
>> >> > >> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for
>FreeBSD/i386
>> >> > >> #
>> >> > >> # For more information on this file, please read the
>handbook
>> >> section on
>> >> > >> # Kernel Configuration Files:
>> >> > >> #
>> >> > >> #
>http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
>> >> > >> #
>> >> > >> # The handbook is also available locally in
>> >> /usr/share/doc/handbook
>> >> > >> # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always
>see
>> >> the
>> >> > >> # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/)
>for the
>> >> > >> # latest information.
>> >> > >> #
>> >> > >> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed
>explanations of
>> >> the
>> >> > >> # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration
>file.
>> >> If you
>> >> > >are
>> >> > >> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check
>first
>> >> in LINT.
>> >> > >> #
>> >> > >> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FWKERNEL,v 1 2001/01/25 22:45
>Ben
>> >> Ossei Exp
>> >> > >$
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> machine i386
>> >> > >> cpu I386_CPU
>> >> > >> cpu I486_CPU
>> >> > >> cpu I586_CPU
>> >> > >> cpu I686_CPU
>> >> > >> ident FWKERNEL
>> >> > >> maxusers 64
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug
>symbols
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation
>> >> > >> options INET #InterNETworking
>> >> > >> options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
>> >> > >> options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
>> >> > >> options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
>> >> > >> options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
>> >> > >> options MFS #Memory Filesystem
>> >> > >> options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
>> >> > >> # options NFS #Network Filesystem
>> >> > >> # options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
>> >> > >> # options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
>> >> > >> options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem
>> >> > >> options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
>> >> > >> options PROCFS #Process filesystem
>> >> > >> options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
>> >> > >> options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
>> >> > >> # options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console
>> >> > >> options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor
>> >> > >> options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
>> >> > >> options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support
>> >> > >> options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
>> >> > >> options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
>> >> > >> options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
>> >> > >> options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
>> >> > >> options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
>> >> > >> options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies
>> >> > >> options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV #install a CDEV entry in /dev
>> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL
>> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
>> >> > >> options IPDIVERT
>> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
>> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
>> >> > >> options IPFILTER
>> >> > >> options IPFILTER_LOG
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
>> >> > >> options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
>> >> > >> options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> device isa
>> >> > >> device eisa
>> >> > >> device pci
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # Floppy drives
>> >> > >> device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
>> >> > >> device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
>> >> > >> # device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # ATA and ATAPI devices
>> >> > >> device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
>> >> > >> device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
>> >> > >> device ata
>> >> > >> device atadisk # ATA disk drives
>> >> > >> device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
>> >> > >> device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
>> >> > >> device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
>> >> > >> options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering
>> >> > >> # options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # SCSI Controllers
>> >> > >> # device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family
>> >> > >> # device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
>> >> > >> # device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
>> >> > >> # device isp # Qlogic family
>> >> > >> # device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
>> >> > >> # device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
>> >> > >> # options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
>> >> > >> # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
>> >> > >> # both sym and ncr are configured
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # device adv0 at isa?
>> >> > >> # device adw
>> >> > >> # device bt0 at isa?
>> >> > >> # device aha0 at isa?
>> >> > >> # device aic0 at isa?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # device ncv # NCR 53C500
>> >> > >> # device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
>> >> > >> # device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # SCSI peripherals
>> >> > >> # device scbus # SCSI bus (required)
>> >> > >> # device da # Direct Access (disks)
>> >> > >> # device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
>> >> > >> # device cd # CD
>> >> > >> # device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
>> >> > >> # device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
>> >> > >> # device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
>> >> > >> # device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # RAID controllers
>> >> > >> # device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
>> >> > >> # device amr # AMI MegaRAID
>> >> > >> # device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family
>> >> > >> # device twe # 3ware Escalade
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
>> >> > >> device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
>> >> > >> device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
>> >> > >> device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> device vga0 at isa?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # splash screen/screen saver
>> >> > >> pseudo-device splash
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO
>> >> console
>> >> > >> device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible
>console
>> >> driver
>> >> > >> # device vt0 at isa?
>> >> > >> # options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console
>> >> > >> # options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor
>> >> > >> # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest
>of
>> >> the PCVT
>> >> > >lines
>> >> > >> # options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # Floating point support - do not disable.
>> >> > >> device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # Power management support (see LINT for more options)
>> >> > >> device apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power
>> >> Management
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
>> >> > >> # device card
>> >> > >> # device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
>> >> > >> # device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000
>disable
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # Serial (COM) ports
>> >> > >> device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
>> >> > >> device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
>> >> > >> device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
>> >> > >> device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # Parallel port
>> >> > >> device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
>> >> > >> device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required)
>> >> > >> device lpt # Printer
>> >> > >> # device plip # TCP/IP over parallel
>> >> > >> device ppi # Parallel port interface device
>> >> > >> # device vpo # Requires scbus and da
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs.
>> >> > >> # device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
>> >> > >> device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
>> >> > >> # device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
>> >> > >> device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
>> >> > >> # device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller
>code.
>> >> > >> # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to
>use
>> >> these
>> >> > >NICs!
>> >> > >> device miibus # MII bus support
>> >> > >> device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
>> >> > >> # device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
>> >> > >> # device rl # RealTek 8129/8139
>> >> > >> # device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
>> >> > >> # device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
>> >> > >> # device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
>> >> > >> # device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
>> >> > >> # device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
>> >> > >> # device wb # Winbond W89C840F
>> >> > >> device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # ISA Ethernet NICs.
>> >> > >> # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
>> >> > >> # device ex
>> >> > >> # device ep
>> >> > >> # device fe0 at isa? port 0x300
>> >> > >> # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE
>> >> really
>> >> > >> # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA
>attatement
>> >> needed
>> >> > >> # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the
>pccard
>> >> code.
>> >> > >> # device wi
>> >> > >> # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the
>declaration
>> >> below will
>> >> > >> # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to
>ISA
>> >> PnP
>> >> > >> # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on
>your ISA
>> >> > >> # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must
>> >> specify
>> >> > >> # those paremeters here.
>> >> > >> # device an
>> >> > >> # Xircom Ethernet
>> >> > >> # device xe
>> >> > >> # The probe order of these is presently determined by
>> >> > >i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
>> >> > >> # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
>> >> > >> # device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
>> >> > >> # device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
>> >> > >> # device cs0 at isa? port 0x300
>> >> > >> # device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to
>> >> allocated.
>> >> > >> pseudo-device loop # Network loopback
>> >> > >> pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support
>> >> > >> # pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP
>> >> > >> # pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP
>> >> > >> # pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel.
>> >> > >> pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
>> >> > >> pseudo-device md # Memory "disks"
>> >> > >> pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
>> >> > >> pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet
>Filter.
>> >> > >> # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling
>this!
>> >> > >> pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> # USB support
>> >> > >> # device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface
>> >> > >> # device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface
>> >> > >> device usb # USB Bus (required)
>> >> > >> device ugen # Generic
>> >> > >> device uhid # "Human Interface Devices"
>> >> > >> device ukbd # Keyboard
>> >> > >> device ulpt # Printer
>> >> > >> # device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
>> >> > >> device ums # Mouse
>> >> > >> # device uscanner # Scanners
>> >> > >> # USB Ethernet, requires mii
>> >> > >> # device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet
>> >> > >> # device cue # CATC USB ethernet
>> >> > >> # device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
>> >> > >>
>> >> >
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We've had a rush on spam lately - Im having trouble figuring out the best
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I have a Toshiba 730CDT laptop. I want to get a
ethernet card for my laptop. What is the best card out
there. Meaning, I wont have the urge to throw the
laptop out the window when I cant get it to work, or I
wont be up till 3am trying to configure it. 

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Its still possible to get NAT working without a kernel compile. User ppp has
a "-nat" switch that appears to work OK for LAN connections although
apparently not for dialin interfaces. Firewalls are another issue however
..... until some expert figures how to get a kernel compile to work


----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
To: "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>; <ben@cahostnet.net>; "Doug Young"
<dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>; <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: New Kernel install


> I tried this and it said "don't know how to make kernel. Stop".
>
> --- "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>
> > wrote:
> >try this:
> >cd /usr/src
> >make buildkernel KERNEL=kernelname
> >make installkernel KERNEL=kernelname
> >
> >even thought it is usually used to build kernel after make
> >build, IMHO this is the best way to build kernel anytime.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> >To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>; "Artem Koutchine"
> ><matrix@ipform.ru>; <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 4:05 PM
> >Subject: Re: New Kernel install
> >
> >
> >> This is a new install for me.  I first installed the 4.0-Current and
> >then did another install from the FTP of the 4.2-Current.  I haven't
> >CVSub yet at all.  I tried using tha command but it said it didn't
> >know what to make.
> >>
> >> --- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >According to the handbook, "make buildkernel blah blah" is used
> >after
> >> >buildworld.
> >> >
> >> >Since that is NOT the case here (all thats been done is addition of
> >a few
> >> >lines for IPFW) is it correct practive to run "buildkernel" instead
> >of the
> >> >regular process specified in the handbook ??
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>
> >> >To: <ben@cahostnet.net>; "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>;
> >> ><questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >> >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:42 PM
> >> >Subject: Re: New Kernel install
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Did you cvsuped lately? Try cvsupping again and
> >> >> use
> >> >>
> >> >> make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
> >> >> make installkernel KERNEL=YOUKERNELNAME
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> >> >> To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>;
> ><questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >> >> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:35 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: New Kernel install
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Do you think there's a bug in the software?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --- "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > >I tried the kernel compile in 4.2 earlier today & got similar
> >> >> response ....
> >> >> > >looks like
> >> >> > >some "feature" there that needs attention
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > >From: "Benjamin Ossei" <ben@cahostnet.net>
> >> >> > >To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >> >> > >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:23 PM
> >> >> > >Subject: New Kernel install
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Hi,
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my machine.  I used the
> >> >> GENERIC
> >> >> > >configuration as a starting point and added what I needed and
> >> >> commented out
> >> >> > >what I didn't want.  I was able to issue the command
> >> >> /usr/sbin/config -g
> >> >> > >"newkernel" fine but when I go to build the kernel with the
> >make
> >> >> depend or
> >> >> > >just make I get a stop error.  The error indicates that
> >there's
> >> >> unterminited
> >> >> > >string or something to the effect and gives me this "#IF" for
> >the
> >> >> problem.
> >> >> > >I've gone through my kernel config and can not see anything.
> >I'm
> >> >> not very
> >> >> > >good at this I should also say.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >I'm using Freebsd 4.2-Current.  This is my first custom
> >kernel.
> >> >> I've
> >> >> > >attached the file for your viewing and hopefully  you can see
> >my
> >> >> problem.  I
> >> >> > >included the options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT for now to
> >get
> >> >> the machine
> >> >> > >up and running.  I'll change this to DENY once I"m done and
> >> >> recompile the
> >> >> > >kernel.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Thanks for your help.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
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> >> >> >
> >> >>
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> >> >> -------
> >> >> > >----
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> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> #
> >> >> > >> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for
> >FreeBSD/i386
> >> >> > >> #
> >> >> > >> # For more information on this file, please read the
> >handbook
> >> >> section on
> >> >> > >> # Kernel Configuration Files:
> >> >> > >> #
> >> >> > >> #
> >http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
> >> >> > >> #
> >> >> > >> # The handbook is also available locally in
> >> >> /usr/share/doc/handbook
> >> >> > >> # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always
> >see
> >> >> the
> >> >> > >> # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/)
> >for the
> >> >> > >> # latest information.
> >> >> > >> #
> >> >> > >> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed
> >explanations of
> >> >> the
> >> >> > >> # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration
> >file.
> >> >> If you
> >> >> > >are
> >> >> > >> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check
> >first
> >> >> in LINT.
> >> >> > >> #
> >> >> > >> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FWKERNEL,v 1 2001/01/25 22:45
> >Ben
> >> >> Ossei Exp
> >> >> > >$
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> machine i386
> >> >> > >> cpu I386_CPU
> >> >> > >> cpu I486_CPU
> >> >> > >> cpu I586_CPU
> >> >> > >> cpu I686_CPU
> >> >> > >> ident FWKERNEL
> >> >> > >> maxusers 64
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug
> >symbols
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation
> >> >> > >> options INET #InterNETworking
> >> >> > >> options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
> >> >> > >> options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
> >> >> > >> options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
> >> >> > >> options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
> >> >> > >> options MFS #Memory Filesystem
> >> >> > >> options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
> >> >> > >> # options NFS #Network Filesystem
> >> >> > >> # options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
> >> >> > >> # options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
> >> >> > >> options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem
> >> >> > >> options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
> >> >> > >> options PROCFS #Process filesystem
> >> >> > >> options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
> >> >> > >> options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
> >> >> > >> # options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console
> >> >> > >> options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor
> >> >> > >> options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
> >> >> > >> options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support
> >> >> > >> options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
> >> >> > >> options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
> >> >> > >> options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
> >> >> > >> options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
> >> >> > >> options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
> >> >> > >> options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies
> >> >> > >> options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV #install a CDEV entry in /dev
> >> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL
> >> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
> >> >> > >> options IPDIVERT
> >> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
> >> >> > >> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
> >> >> > >> options IPFILTER
> >> >> > >> options IPFILTER_LOG
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
> >> >> > >> options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
> >> >> > >> options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> device isa
> >> >> > >> device eisa
> >> >> > >> device pci
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # Floppy drives
> >> >> > >> device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
> >> >> > >> device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
> >> >> > >> # device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # ATA and ATAPI devices
> >> >> > >> device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
> >> >> > >> device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
> >> >> > >> device ata
> >> >> > >> device atadisk # ATA disk drives
> >> >> > >> device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
> >> >> > >> device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
> >> >> > >> device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
> >> >> > >> options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering
> >> >> > >> # options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # SCSI Controllers
> >> >> > >> # device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family
> >> >> > >> # device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
> >> >> > >> # device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
> >> >> > >> # device isp # Qlogic family
> >> >> > >> # device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
> >> >> > >> # device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
> >> >> > >> # options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
> >> >> > >> # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
> >> >> > >> # both sym and ncr are configured
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # device adv0 at isa?
> >> >> > >> # device adw
> >> >> > >> # device bt0 at isa?
> >> >> > >> # device aha0 at isa?
> >> >> > >> # device aic0 at isa?
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # device ncv # NCR 53C500
> >> >> > >> # device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
> >> >> > >> # device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # SCSI peripherals
> >> >> > >> # device scbus # SCSI bus (required)
> >> >> > >> # device da # Direct Access (disks)
> >> >> > >> # device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
> >> >> > >> # device cd # CD
> >> >> > >> # device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
> >> >> > >> # device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
> >> >> > >> # device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
> >> >> > >> # device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # RAID controllers
> >> >> > >> # device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
> >> >> > >> # device amr # AMI MegaRAID
> >> >> > >> # device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family
> >> >> > >> # device twe # 3ware Escalade
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
> >> >> > >> device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
> >> >> > >> device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
> >> >> > >> device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> device vga0 at isa?
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # splash screen/screen saver
> >> >> > >> pseudo-device splash
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO
> >> >> console
> >> >> > >> device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible
> >console
> >> >> driver
> >> >> > >> # device vt0 at isa?
> >> >> > >> # options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console
> >> >> > >> # options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor
> >> >> > >> # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest
> >of
> >> >> the PCVT
> >> >> > >lines
> >> >> > >> # options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # Floating point support - do not disable.
> >> >> > >> device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # Power management support (see LINT for more options)
> >> >> > >> device apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power
> >> >> Management
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
> >> >> > >> # device card
> >> >> > >> # device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
> >> >> > >> # device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000
> >disable
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # Serial (COM) ports
> >> >> > >> device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
> >> >> > >> device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
> >> >> > >> device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
> >> >> > >> device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # Parallel port
> >> >> > >> device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> >> >> > >> device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required)
> >> >> > >> device lpt # Printer
> >> >> > >> # device plip # TCP/IP over parallel
> >> >> > >> device ppi # Parallel port interface device
> >> >> > >> # device vpo # Requires scbus and da
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs.
> >> >> > >> # device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
> >> >> > >> device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
> >> >> > >> # device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
> >> >> > >> device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
> >> >> > >> # device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller
> >code.
> >> >> > >> # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to
> >use
> >> >> these
> >> >> > >NICs!
> >> >> > >> device miibus # MII bus support
> >> >> > >> device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
> >> >> > >> # device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
> >> >> > >> # device rl # RealTek 8129/8139
> >> >> > >> # device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
> >> >> > >> # device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
> >> >> > >> # device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
> >> >> > >> # device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
> >> >> > >> # device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
> >> >> > >> # device wb # Winbond W89C840F
> >> >> > >> device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # ISA Ethernet NICs.
> >> >> > >> # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
> >> >> > >> # device ex
> >> >> > >> # device ep
> >> >> > >> # device fe0 at isa? port 0x300
> >> >> > >> # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE
> >> >> really
> >> >> > >> # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA
> >attatement
> >> >> needed
> >> >> > >> # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the
> >pccard
> >> >> code.
> >> >> > >> # device wi
> >> >> > >> # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the
> >declaration
> >> >> below will
> >> >> > >> # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to
> >ISA
> >> >> PnP
> >> >> > >> # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on
> >your ISA
> >> >> > >> # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must
> >> >> specify
> >> >> > >> # those paremeters here.
> >> >> > >> # device an
> >> >> > >> # Xircom Ethernet
> >> >> > >> # device xe
> >> >> > >> # The probe order of these is presently determined by
> >> >> > >i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
> >> >> > >> # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
> >> >> > >> # device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
> >> >> > >> # device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
> >> >> > >> # device cs0 at isa? port 0x300
> >> >> > >> # device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to
> >> >> allocated.
> >> >> > >> pseudo-device loop # Network loopback
> >> >> > >> pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support
> >> >> > >> # pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP
> >> >> > >> # pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP
> >> >> > >> # pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel.
> >> >> > >> pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
> >> >> > >> pseudo-device md # Memory "disks"
> >> >> > >> pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
> >> >> > >> pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet
> >Filter.
> >> >> > >> # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling
> >this!
> >> >> > >> pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> # USB support
> >> >> > >> # device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface
> >> >> > >> # device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface
> >> >> > >> device usb # USB Bus (required)
> >> >> > >> device ugen # Generic
> >> >> > >> device uhid # "Human Interface Devices"
> >> >> > >> device ukbd # Keyboard
> >> >> > >> device ulpt # Printer
> >> >> > >> # device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
> >> >> > >> device ums # Mouse
> >> >> > >> # device uscanner # Scanners
> >> >> > >> # USB Ethernet, requires mii
> >> >> > >> # device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet
> >> >> > >> # device cue # CATC USB ethernet
> >> >> > >> # device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Fri Jan 26  5:48:31 2001
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> We've had a rush on spam lately - Im having trouble figuring out the best
> way to prevent connections from IPs with no in-addr.arpa (reverse dns) -
> could someone point me in the right direction?

The easiest (if you are indeed using sendmail) is to find
/usr/src/etc/sendmail, edit the file, removing the /^dnl / from the lines
that activate the MAPS features.

That assumes you want to make world.

If not, copy that file (/usr/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc) to
/usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf, make the change, 'make freebsd.cf' and copy the
resulting freebsd.cf to /etc/mail/sendmail.cf and restart sendmail.

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Hello

- Is the file you downloaded jdk1_3_0.
- Does it have an extension *.tgz
- If so maybe you can type in (as root) pkg_add jdk1_3_0.tgz




On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Katerina Markoy wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Sorry for asking again :\ how to install JDK1_3_0
> but I'm newbie to FreeBSD. As I said previously I
> have FreeBSD 3.4-Release.
> 
> I go to www.freebsd.org -> Ported Apps ->
> -> search for jdk
> And I find: linux-jdk-1.3.0
> That file is only 71kb!!! Is it realy jdk?!?!?!
> If it is, then how do I install it???
> 
> Can someone describe to me how to install jdk1_3_0??
> 
> TIA
> 
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:29:58 -0500
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What does BSD stand for?

Also, do you have any or know of any applications we can use to develope
user-interface screens?

Thanks,
Jeanne

-----------------------------------------------
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Fri Jan 26  6:41:48 2001
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Justin Stanford wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I upgraded my ipfw yesterday on my 4.0-STABLE system with the patch by
> following the instructions to the letter for the security bug discovered
> by Aragon Gouveia, and compile and install appeared to go seamlessly.
>
> However, ipfw now gives me this type of problem:
>
> [root@athena]~# ipfw add 5000 deny tcp from any to 196.30.167.200 515 via rl0
> 05000 deny tcp from any to 196.30.167.200 515 via rl0
> ip_fw_ctl: empty interface name
> ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument
> [root@athena]~#
>
> The interface is most definitely rl0, and this exact ruleset is the same I
> have been using for ages with my previous ipfw. Suggestions?
>
> --
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Yup, I`ve heard this problem and I tried to solve it.I copied
/sys/netinet/ip_fw.h  to /usr/include/netine and then I recompiled my kernel .
After then this problem has disapeared from my box.



Mehmet Hinc
Yildiz Teknik University
>From Turkey



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Berkely Software Design

--- Jeanne Riley <JRiley@mapletree.com> wrote:
> What does BSD stand for?
> 
> Also, do you have any or know of any applications we
> can use to develope
> user-interface screens?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeanne
> 
> -----------------------------------------------
> Jeanne Riley
> Senior SQA Engineer
> Mapletree Networks Inc
> 315 Norwood Park South
> Norwood, MA 02062
> Desk: (781) 751-2432
> QA Lab: (781) 751-2450
> jriley@mapletreenetworks.com
> 
> 
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ipfw will deny those connections if done right.

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On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Stephen Hovey wrote:

> 
> We've had a rush on spam lately - Im having trouble figuring out the best
> way to prevent connections from IPs with no in-addr.arpa (reverse dns) -
> could someone point me in the right direction?
> 
> Thanx
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--- Danny <dannyho@bigpond.net.au> skrev: > 
> Hello
> 
> - Is the file you downloaded jdk1_3_0.
> - Does it have an extension *.tgz
> - If so maybe you can type in (as root) pkg_add
> jdk1_3_0.tgz

It's the file: linux-jdk13.tar
(obviously it's not the same with yours)

Anyway if I get the jdk1_3_0.tgz
and I type (as root) pkg_add jdk1_3_0.tgz
can I "javac myfile.java"??

TIA


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> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 04:37:40PM -0600, Doug Poland wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I was just attempting to make a custom kernel when make failed.
> > I'm not sure of where to go from here.  Can someone assist me
> > in determining what went wrong?
> 
> Jonathan Chen said...
> 
> [...]
> > # SCSI peripherals
> > #device		scbus		# SCSI bus (required)
> > #device		da		# Direct Access (disks)
> > #device		sa		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
> > #device		cd		# CD
> > #device		pass		# Passthrough device 
> (direct SCSI access)
> [...]
> > device		umass		# Disks/Mass storage - 
> Requires scbus and da
> 
> Here's your problem. umass requires scsbus and da
>
Thanks for your sharp eyes!

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Or rather Berkeley Software Distribution.
It depends where you refer to..

bye,
dimitri

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> > Thanks,
> > Jeanne
> > 
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Opps! Your right. Sorry, been up all night trying to
configure my damn ethernet card. Im still 1/2 asleep!!
--- pgd@telehorizon.com wrote:
> Or rather Berkeley Software Distribution.
> It depends where you refer to..
> 
> bye,
> dimitri
> 
> > Berkely Software Design
> > 
> > --- Jeanne Riley <JRiley@mapletree.com> wrote:
> > > What does BSD stand for?
> > > 
> > > Also, do you have any or know of any
> applications we
> > > can use to develope
> > > user-interface screens?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jeanne
> > > 
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Anyoneone else has any suggestions to my problem?  I've attached the configuration file.  Thanks for your help.

--- Benjamin Ossei <ben@cahostnet.net>
> wrote:
>Part: 1
><pre>Hi,
>
>I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my machine.  I used the GENERIC configuration 
>as a starting point and added what I needed and commented out what I didn't 
>want.  I was able to issue the command /usr/sbin/config -g &quot;newkernel&quot; fine 
>but when I go to build the kernel with the make depend or just make I get 
>a stop error.  The error indicates that there's unterminited string or something 
>to the effect and gives me this &quot;#IF&quot; for the problem.  I've gone through 
>my kernel config and can not see anything. I'm not very good at this I should 
>also say.
>
>I'm using Freebsd 4.2-Current.  This is my first custom kernel.  I've attached 
>the file for your viewing and hopefully  you can see my problem.  I included 
>the options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT for now to get the machine up and 
>running.  I'll change this to DENY once I&quot;m done and recompile the kernel.  
>
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>
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><pre>#
># GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
>#
># For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
># Kernel Configuration Files:
>#
>#    <A HREF="http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html" target="_new">http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html</A>
>#
># The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
># if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
># FreeBSD World Wide Web server (<A HREF="http://www.FreeBSD.org/)" target="_new">http://www.FreeBSD.org/)</A> for the
># latest information.
>#
># An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
># device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you 
>are
># in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
>#
># $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FWKERNEL,v 1 2001/01/25 22:45 Ben Ossei Exp 
>$
>
>machine		i386
>cpu		I386_CPU
>cpu		I486_CPU
>cpu		I586_CPU
>cpu		I686_CPU
>ident		FWKERNEL
>maxusers	64
>
># makeoptions	DEBUG=-g		#Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
>
># options 	MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
>options 	INET			#InterNETworking
>options 	INET6			#IPv6 communications protocols
>options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
>options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
>options 	SOFTUPDATES		#Enable FFS soft updates support
>options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
>options 	MD_ROOT			#MD is a potential root device
># options 	NFS			#Network Filesystem
># options 	NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device, NFS required
># options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
>options		CD9660		#ISO 9660 Filesystem
>options 	CD9660_ROOT		#CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
>options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
>options 	COMPAT_43		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
>options 	SCSI_DELAY=15000	#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
># options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
>options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
>options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
>options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) support
>options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
>options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
>options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores
>options 	P1003_1B		#Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
>options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
>options		ICMP_BANDLIM		#Rate limit bad replies
>options 	KBD_INSTALL_CDEV	#install a CDEV entry in /dev
>options		IPFIREWALL		
>options		IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
>options	 	IPDIVERT
>options		IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT	
>options		IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
>options		IPFILTER		
>options		IPFILTER_LOG		
>	
># To make an SMP kernel, the 
>next two are needed
>options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
>options 	APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O
>
>device		isa
>device		eisa
>device		pci
>
># Floppy drives
>device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
>device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
># device		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1
>
># ATA and ATAPI devices
>device		ata0	at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
>device		ata1	at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
>device		ata
>device		atadisk			# ATA disk drives
>device		atapicd			# ATAPI CDROM drives
>device		atapifd			# ATAPI floppy drives
>device		atapist			# ATAPI tape drives
>options 	ATA_STATIC_ID		#Static device numbering
># options 	ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA	#Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
>
># SCSI Controllers
># device		ahb		# EISA AHA1742 family
># device		ahc		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
># device		amd		# AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
># device		isp		# Qlogic family
># device		ncr		# NCR/Symbios Logic
># device		sym		# NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
># options		SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
>				# Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when 
>				# both sym and ncr 
>are configured
>
># device		adv0	at isa?
># device		adw
># device		bt0	at isa?
># device		aha0	at isa?
># device		aic0	at isa?
>
># device		ncv		# NCR 53C500
># device		nsp		# Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
># device		stg		# TMC 18C30/18C50
>
># SCSI peripherals
># device		scbus		# SCSI bus (required)
># device		da		# Direct Access (disks)
># device		sa		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
># device		cd		# CD
># device		pass	# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
>
># RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
># device		asr		# DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
># device		dpt		# DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
># device		mly		# Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
>
># RAID controllers
># device		ida		# Compaq Smart RAID
># device		amr		# AMI MegaRAID
># device		mlx		# Mylex DAC960 family
># device		twe		# 3ware Escalade
>
># atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
>device		atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD
>device		atkbd0	at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
>device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12
>
>device		vga0	at isa?
>
># splash screen/screen saver
>pseudo-device	splash
>
># syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
>device		sc0	at isa? flags 0x100
>
># Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
># device		vt0	at isa?
># options 	XSERVER			# support for X server on a vt console
># options 	FAT_CURSOR		# start with block cursor
># If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT 
>lines
># options 	PCVT_SCANSET=2		# IBM keyboards are non-std
>
># Floating point support - do not disable.
>device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
>
># Power management support (see LINT for more options)
>device		apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management
>
># PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
># device		card
># device		pcic0	at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
># device		pcic1	at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable
>
># Serial (COM) ports
>device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
>device		sio1	at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
>device		sio2	at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
>device		sio3	at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
>
># Parallel port
>device		ppc0	at isa? irq 7
>device		ppbus		# Parallel port bus (required)
>device		lpt		# Printer
># device		plip		# TCP/IP over parallel
>device		ppi		# Parallel port interface device
># device		vpo		# Requires scbus and da
>
>
># PCI Ethernet NICs.
># device		de		# DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
>device		fxp		# Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
># device		tx		# SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
>device		vx		# 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
># device		wx	# Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
>
># PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
># NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs!
>device		miibus		# MII bus support
>device		dc		# DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
># device		pcn		# AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
># device		rl		# RealTek 8129/8139
># device		sf		# Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
># device		sis	# Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
># device		ste		# Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
># device		tl		# Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
># device		vr		# VIA Rhine, Rhine II
># device		wb		# Winbond W89C840F
>device		xl		# 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
>
># ISA Ethernet NICs.
># device		ed0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
># device		ex
># device		ep
># device		fe0	at isa? port 0x300
># WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really
># exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed
># and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code.
># device		wi
># Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will
># work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP
># mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
># card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify
># those paremeters here.
># device		an
># Xircom Ethernet
># device		xe
># The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
># device		ie0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
># device		le0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
># device		lnc0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
># device		cs0	at isa? port 0x300
># device		sn0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
>
># Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
>pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
>pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
># pseudo-device	sl	1	# Kernel SLIP
># pseudo-device	ppp	1	# Kernel PPP
># pseudo-device	tun		# Packet tunnel.
>pseudo-device	pty		# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
>pseudo-device	md		# Memory &quot;disks&quot;
>pseudo-device	gif	4	# IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
>pseudo-device	faith	1	# IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
>
># The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
># Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
>pseudo-device	bpf		#Berkeley packet filter
>
># USB support
># device		uhci		# UHCI PCI-&gt;USB interface
># device		ohci		# OHCI PCI-&gt;USB interface
>device		usb		# USB Bus (required)
>device		ugen		# Generic
>device		uhid		# &quot;Human Interface Devices&quot;
>device		ukbd		# Keyboard
>device		ulpt		# Printer
># device	umass		# Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
>device		ums		# Mouse
># device		uscanner	# Scanners
># USB Ethernet, requires mii
># device		aue		# ADMtek USB ethernet
># device		cue		# CATC USB ethernet
># device		kue		# Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
></pre>

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Could Someone Please Help Me With This Problem?

I Am Currently Running 3.4-RELEASE. I Used cvsup To Update My Source
Files.(Several Times)
To 3.x-STABLE. This Was My cvsupfile:
*default  host=cvsup.FreeBSD.org
*default  base=/usr
*default  prefix=/usr
*default  release=cvs
*default  tag=RELENG_3
*default  delete use-rel-suffix

src-all
src-crypto
src-secure
*default tag=.
ports-all
doc-all
 
When I Do "make buildworld" It Fails Here Everytime. I Have Read Through The
Mail Archives 
I Have Read The Updating Stuff But I Can not Find An Answer. 
I Have tried  "make cleandir" I Have Tried Deleting "/usr/obj" 
Still Doesn't Work. 
Don't Know What Else To Try.
Help Please.

Thanks In Advance,

/usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC
-DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED all;  /usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make
-DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -B install cleandir obj
rm -f .depend /usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GPATH
/usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GRTAGS
/usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GSYMS
/usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GTAGS
rm -f .depend /usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GPATH
/usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GRTAGS
/usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GSYMS
/usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GTAGS
yacc -d -o parse.c
/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/parse.y
cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err
-I/usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c
/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/compile_et.c
cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err
-I/usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c parse.c
lex -t  /usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/lex.l >
lex.c
cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err
-I/usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c lex.c
cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err
-I/usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c
/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/getarg.c
/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/getarg.c: In
function `add_string':
/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/getarg.c:178:
warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/getarg.c: In
function `arg_match_long':
/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err/getarg.c:197:
warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/dest/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../contrib/com_err
-I/usr/obj/usr/dest/usr/src/tmp/usr/include  -static -o compile_et
compile_et.o parse.o lex.o getarg.o  
parse.o: In function `yyerror':
parse.o(.text+0x78): multiple definition of `yyerror'
compile_et.o(.text+0x600): first defined here
/usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `yyerror' changed from 47 to 18
in parse.o
compile_et.o: In function `main':
compile_et.o(.text+0x4c2): undefined reference to `current'
compile_et.o(.text+0x4c8): undefined reference to `table_number'
compile_et.o(.text+0x58e): undefined reference to `table_number'
compile_et.o: In function `yyerror':
compile_et.o(.text+0x612): undefined reference to `current_token'
compile_et.o(.text+0x618): undefined reference to `yylineno'
parse.o: In function `yyparse':
parse.o(.text+0x3f4): undefined reference to `id_str'
parse.o(.text+0x40d): undefined reference to `base'
parse.o(.text+0x41e): undefined reference to `name'
parse.o(.text+0x429): undefined reference to `name'
parse.o(.text+0x452): undefined reference to `base'
parse.o(.text+0x463): undefined reference to `name'
parse.o(.text+0x46e): undefined reference to `name'
parse.o(.text+0x49c): undefined reference to `number'
parse.o(.text+0x4c3): undefined reference to `prefix'
parse.o(.text+0x4d0): undefined reference to `prefix'
parse.o(.text+0x4e8): undefined reference to `prefix'
parse.o(.text+0x50c): undefined reference to `prefix'
parse.o(.text+0x516): undefined reference to `prefix'
parse.o(.text+0x539): undefined reference to `number'
parse.o(.text+0x544): undefined reference to `prefix'
parse.o(.text+0x54d): undefined reference to `prefix'
parse.o(.text+0x582): undefined reference to `codes'
parse.o(.text+0x5af): undefined reference to `codes'
parse.o(.text+0x5b7): undefined reference to `codes'
parse.o(.text+0x5c1): undefined reference to `codes'
parse.o(.text+0x5cd): undefined reference to `number'
lex.o: In function `error_message':
lex.o(.text+0xdc0): undefined reference to `numerror'
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.

Steve McNelly
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> I go to www.freebsd.org -> Ported Apps ->
> -> search for jdk
> And I find: linux-jdk-1.3.0
> That file is only 71kb!!! Is it realy jdk?!?!?!
> If it is, then how do I install it???

What you downloaded is the JDK port.  See the "Using the Ports 
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http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ports.html

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I have been having a problem that has been baffling me. I have a freebsd
4.1 machine running natd and a totally open firewall (temporarily). When I
boot with kernel.GENERIC networking (local net and cable modem to
internet) work fine, but no routing happens (as expected). When I boot
with my custom kernel with options IPDIVERT and IPFIREWALL enabled, I am
unable to use either network interface. I can't even ping localhost.
I ran a diff on GENERIC and MYKERNEL and these were the only differences. 

Gateway, natd, and firewall are enabled in rc.conf   

Does anyone have an idea what could be causing my all networking to
die with my firewall enabled kernel? I have gotten this working in the 
past, but did a re-install at one point after a hardware failure. I feel
like I'm forgetting something obvious.

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It will work fine most likely, just as well as any other x86 based
machine.


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On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Maciej Paczesny wrote:

> HI
> My friend intends to install FreeBSD on his AMD Duron based machine. Will it
> work ok, or he needs some special things to make it run.
> 
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This is the error I get at the end.

../../dev/ppbus/ppb_1284.c:705: unterminated string or character constant
../../dev/ppbus/ppb_1284.c:702: unterminated `#if' conditional


--- Benjamin Ossei <ben@cahostnet.net>
> wrote:
>Anyoneone else has any suggestions to my problem?  I've attached the configuration file.  Thanks for your help.
>
>--- Benjamin Ossei <ben@cahostnet.net>
>> wrote:
>>Part: 1
>><pre>Hi,
>>
>>I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my machine.  I used the GENERIC configuration 
>>as a starting point and added what I needed and commented out what I didn't 
>>want.  I was able to issue the command /usr/sbin/config -g &quot;newkernel&quot; fine 
>>but when I go to build the kernel with the make depend or just make I get 
>>a stop error.  The error indicates that there's unterminited string or something 
>>to the effect and gives me this &quot;#IF&quot; for the problem.  I've gone through 
>>my kernel config and can not see anything. I'm not very good at this I should 
>>also say.
>>
>>I'm using Freebsd 4.2-Current.  This is my first custom kernel.  I've attached 
>>the file for your viewing and hopefully  you can see my problem.  I included 
>>the options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT for now to get the machine up and 
>>running.  I'll change this to DENY once I&quot;m done and recompile the kernel.  
>>
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
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>><pre>#
>># GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
>>#
>># For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
>># Kernel Configuration Files:
>>#
>>#    <A HREF="http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html" target="_new">http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html</A>
>>#
>># The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
>># if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
>># FreeBSD World Wide Web server (<A HREF="http://www.FreeBSD.org/)" target="_new">http://www.FreeBSD.org/)</A> for the
>># latest information.
>>#
>># An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
>># device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you 
>>are
>># in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
>>#
>># $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FWKERNEL,v 1 2001/01/25 22:45 Ben Ossei Exp 
>>$
>>
>>machine		i386
>>cpu		I386_CPU
>>cpu		I486_CPU
>>cpu		I586_CPU
>>cpu		I686_CPU
>>ident		FWKERNEL
>>maxusers	64
>>
>># makeoptions	DEBUG=-g		#Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
>>
>># options 	MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
>>options 	INET			#InterNETworking
>>options 	INET6			#IPv6 communications protocols
>>options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
>>options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
>>options 	SOFTUPDATES		#Enable FFS soft updates support
>>options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
>>options 	MD_ROOT			#MD is a potential root device
>># options 	NFS			#Network Filesystem
>># options 	NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device, NFS required
>># options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
>>options		CD9660		#ISO 9660 Filesystem
>>options 	CD9660_ROOT		#CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
>>options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
>>options 	COMPAT_43		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
>>options 	SCSI_DELAY=15000	#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
>># options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
>>options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
>>options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
>>options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) support
>>options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
>>options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
>>options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores
>>options 	P1003_1B		#Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
>>options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
>>options		ICMP_BANDLIM		#Rate limit bad replies
>>options 	KBD_INSTALL_CDEV	#install a CDEV entry in /dev
>>options		IPFIREWALL		
>>options		IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
>>options	 	IPDIVERT
>>options		IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT	
>>options		IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
>>options		IPFILTER		
>>options		IPFILTER_LOG		
>>	
>># To make an SMP kernel, the 
>>next two are needed
>>options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
>>options 	APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O
>>
>>device		isa
>>device		eisa
>>device		pci
>>
>># Floppy drives
>>device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
>>device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
>># device		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1
>>
>># ATA and ATAPI devices
>>device		ata0	at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
>>device		ata1	at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
>>device		ata
>>device		atadisk			# ATA disk drives
>>device		atapicd			# ATAPI CDROM drives
>>device		atapifd			# ATAPI floppy drives
>>device		atapist			# ATAPI tape drives
>>options 	ATA_STATIC_ID		#Static device numbering
>># options 	ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA	#Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
>>
>># SCSI Controllers
>># device		ahb		# EISA AHA1742 family
>># device		ahc		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
>># device		amd		# AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
>># device		isp		# Qlogic family
>># device		ncr		# NCR/Symbios Logic
>># device		sym		# NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
>># options		SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
>>				# Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when 
>>				# both sym and ncr 
>>are configured
>>
>># device		adv0	at isa?
>># device		adw
>># device		bt0	at isa?
>># device		aha0	at isa?
>># device		aic0	at isa?
>>
>># device		ncv		# NCR 53C500
>># device		nsp		# Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
>># device		stg		# TMC 18C30/18C50
>>
>># SCSI peripherals
>># device		scbus		# SCSI bus (required)
>># device		da		# Direct Access (disks)
>># device		sa		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
>># device		cd		# CD
>># device		pass	# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
>>
>># RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
>># device		asr		# DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
>># device		dpt		# DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
>># device		mly		# Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
>>
>># RAID controllers
>># device		ida		# Compaq Smart RAID
>># device		amr		# AMI MegaRAID
>># device		mlx		# Mylex DAC960 family
>># device		twe		# 3ware Escalade
>>
>># atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
>>device		atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD
>>device		atkbd0	at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
>>device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12
>>
>>device		vga0	at isa?
>>
>># splash screen/screen saver
>>pseudo-device	splash
>>
>># syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
>>device		sc0	at isa? flags 0x100
>>
>># Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
>># device		vt0	at isa?
>># options 	XSERVER			# support for X server on a vt console
>># options 	FAT_CURSOR		# start with block cursor
>># If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT 
>>lines
>># options 	PCVT_SCANSET=2		# IBM keyboards are non-std
>>
>># Floating point support - do not disable.
>>device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
>>
>># Power management support (see LINT for more options)
>>device		apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management
>>
>># PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
>># device		card
>># device		pcic0	at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
>># device		pcic1	at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable
>>
>># Serial (COM) ports
>>device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
>>device		sio1	at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
>>device		sio2	at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
>>device		sio3	at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
>>
>># Parallel port
>>device		ppc0	at isa? irq 7
>>device		ppbus		# Parallel port bus (required)
>>device		lpt		# Printer
>># device		plip		# TCP/IP over parallel
>>device		ppi		# Parallel port interface device
>># device		vpo		# Requires scbus and da
>>
>>
>># PCI Ethernet NICs.
>># device		de		# DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
>>device		fxp		# Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
>># device		tx		# SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
>>device		vx		# 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
>># device		wx	# Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
>>
>># PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
>># NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs!
>>device		miibus		# MII bus support
>>device		dc		# DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
>># device		pcn		# AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
>># device		rl		# RealTek 8129/8139
>># device		sf		# Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
>># device		sis	# Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
>># device		ste		# Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
>># device		tl		# Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
>># device		vr		# VIA Rhine, Rhine II
>># device		wb		# Winbond W89C840F
>>device		xl		# 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
>>
>># ISA Ethernet NICs.
>># device		ed0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
>># device		ex
>># device		ep
>># device		fe0	at isa? port 0x300
>># WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really
>># exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed
>># and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code.
>># device		wi
>># Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will
>># work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP
>># mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
>># card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify
>># those paremeters here.
>># device		an
>># Xircom Ethernet
>># device		xe
>># The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
>># device		ie0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
>># device		le0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
>># device		lnc0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
>># device		cs0	at isa? port 0x300
>># device		sn0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
>>
>># Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
>>pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
>>pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
>># pseudo-device	sl	1	# Kernel SLIP
>># pseudo-device	ppp	1	# Kernel PPP
>># pseudo-device	tun		# Packet tunnel.
>>pseudo-device	pty		# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
>>pseudo-device	md		# Memory &quot;disks&quot;
>>pseudo-device	gif	4	# IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
>>pseudo-device	faith	1	# IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
>>
>># The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
>># Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
>>pseudo-device	bpf		#Berkeley packet filter
>>
>># USB support
>># device		uhci		# UHCI PCI-&gt;USB interface
>># device		ohci		# OHCI PCI-&gt;USB interface
>>device		usb		# USB Bus (required)
>>device		ugen		# Generic
>>device		uhid		# &quot;Human Interface Devices&quot;
>>device		ukbd		# Keyboard
>>device		ulpt		# Printer
>># device	umass		# Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
>>device		ums		# Mouse
>># device		uscanner	# Scanners
>># USB Ethernet, requires mii
>># device		aue		# ADMtek USB ethernet
>># device		cue		# CATC USB ethernet
>># device		kue		# Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
>></pre>
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Hi there.
I have been wanting to install FreeBSD 4.1 on my computer but am 
a little confused with the fdisk portion of the install.
Currently I have 2 windows partitions, C and D.  When installing 
linux, they are labeled as /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda5.  When 
installing FBSD, I don't see my D partition listed, nor my current 
linux partitions.
I would eventually like to have a triple boot system with windows 
still on C and D, Free BSD and Linux (debian).
A)  Is this possible?
B)  Why does it look like FreeBSD's fdisk doesn't recognize the 
linux partitions?
C)  If I'm willing to lose my current linux install, what is the best 
course of action to take?  (I'm also a bit concerned with losing that 
D partition in windows as I mentioned above.)
Any help you can offer would be EXTREMELY appreciated.  
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Do you have the IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCESS option in your kernel?

--- Stephen Brandi <melomel@vuae.pair.com>
> wrote:
>
>I have been having a problem that has been baffling me. I have a freebsd
>4.1 machine running natd and a totally open firewall (temporarily). When I
>boot with kernel.GENERIC networking (local net and cable modem to
>internet) work fine, but no routing happens (as expected). When I boot
>with my custom kernel with options IPDIVERT and IPFIREWALL enabled, I am
>unable to use either network interface. I can't even ping localhost.
>I ran a diff on GENERIC and MYKERNEL and these were the only differences. 
>
>Gateway, natd, and firewall are enabled in rc.conf   
>
>Does anyone have an idea what could be causing my all networking to
>die with my firewall enabled kernel? I have gotten this working in the 
>past, but did a re-install at one point after a hardware failure. I feel
>like I'm forgetting something obvious.
>
>Steve Brandi
>
>
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First, I hope this message is posted in an acceptable format, I am at work
posting from Lotus Notes.
Here at my company we are tired of having to rely on our isp's mail server, so I
want to set up my own.
I realize I need to make a DNS change, that's no big deal. I have a FreeBSD4.2
machine up and
running, which has sendmail running by default, right? I installed the port
qpopper. I have looked at
several sites for info on just where to start, and the FreeBSD handbook on
FreeBSD.org, but am still
in the dark. Could someone point me in the right direction? I would like to get
the system running within
a day or two, then submit the DNS changes. This machine is the only non-NT box
in the company, and
if I don't show a very compelling reason why I need it, it will be used as a NT
workstation.
Please help,

Please reply to the address below, Notes doesn't have a proper reply-to field,
that I can find.

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No I don't. I'll try that. Thanks.


On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Benjamin Ossei wrote:

> Do you have the IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCESS option in your kernel?
> 
> --- Stephen Brandi <melomel@vuae.pair.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >I have been having a problem that has been baffling me. I have a freebsd
> >4.1 machine running natd and a totally open firewall (temporarily). When I
> >boot with kernel.GENERIC networking (local net and cable modem to
> >internet) work fine, but no routing happens (as expected). When I boot
> >with my custom kernel with options IPDIVERT and IPFIREWALL enabled, I am
> >unable to use either network interface. I can't even ping localhost.
> >I ran a diff on GENERIC and MYKERNEL and these were the only differences. 
> >
> >Gateway, natd, and firewall are enabled in rc.conf   
> >
> >Does anyone have an idea what could be causing my all networking to
> >die with my firewall enabled kernel? I have gotten this working in the 
> >past, but did a re-install at one point after a hardware failure. I feel
> >like I'm forgetting something obvious.
> >
> >Steve Brandi
> >
> >
> >
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show me what comes from 'mount'

/dev/fd0 on /mnt (ufs, local)     <--should look a little bit like that

 



On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Chip wrote:
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:00:45 -0800
> To: ahze@slaughter.necro.edu
> From: Chip <chip@wiegand.org>
> Subject: Re: chmod, chown don't work on /floppy
> 
> Michael Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > is the disk filesystem msdos?
> 
> Good question, here's the results of fdisk fd0a ->
> 
>  ******* Working on device /dev/fd0a *******
>  parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
>  cylinders=1 heads=1 sectors/track=1 (1 blks/cyl)
>  
>  parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
>  cylinders=1 heads=1 sectors/track=1 (1 blks/cyl)
>  
>  Media sector size is 512
>  Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
>  Information from DOS bootblock is:
>  The data for partition 1 is:
>  sysid 1,(Primary DOS with 12 bit FAT)
>      start 0, size 2880 (1 Meg), flag 80 (active)
>  	beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0;
>  	end: cyl 79/ sector 18/ head 1
>  The data for partition 2 is:
>  <UNUSED>
>  The data for partition 3 is:
>  <UNUSED>
>  The data for partition 4 is:
>  <UNUSED>
> 
> I don't know what else to do to find out what the
> filesystem type is. 
> Did I do the right thing or not?
> 
> -- 
> Chip
> 
>  
> > On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Chip wrote:
> > > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:41:07 -0800
> > > To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > From: Chip <chip@wiegand.org>
> > > Subject: chmod, chown don't work on /floppy
> > >
> > > I would like to be able to write to my floppy disk
> > > without going to su. I am the only person using this
> > > machine (at home), so I don't care about world writable
> > > permissions. I changed the permissions on /dev/fd0a
> > > to world-writable, but the system refuses to let me
> > > do the same to /floppy and the directories and files
> > > that already exist on the floppy. And yes, I am trying
> > > this as root.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chip Wiegand
> > > Alternative Operating Systems
> > > www.wiegand.org
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I'm getting 2 distinct errors in my system logs and on the console:

Jan 24 21:17:18 cfdns2 /kernel: usb0: scheduling overrun

and

a more worrysome one based on timeouts on the scsi disk:

Jan 24 21:46:28 cfdns2 /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x1a - timed out
while idle, SEQADDR == 0x3
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: STACK == 0x1, 0xf8, 0x153, 0x17b
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: SXFRCTL0 == 0x80
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: SCB count = 40
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: QINFIFO entries:
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: Waiting Queue entries:
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: Disconnected Queue entries: 13:10 5:11
1:17 14:7 2:19 7:21 4:2 8:6 0:27 9:5 3:16 12:38 6:14 11:26
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: QOUTFIFO entries:
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: Sequencer Free SCB List: 15 10
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: Pending list: 11 10 17 7 19 22 21 2 39 6
23 12 3 27 5 16 38 14 26
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: Kernel Free SCB list: 0 9 13 4 15 24 29
25 8 28 20 37 1 36 35 34 33 32 31 30
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: sg[0] - Addr 0x4bd3000 : Length 4096
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: sg[1] - Addr 0x68d4000 : Length 2048
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queuing a BDR SCB
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Bus Device Reset
Message Sent
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout,
status = 34b
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: ahc0: Bus Device Reset on A:0. 19 SCBs
aborted

I found that the bootmanager didn't work on this system although both
lilo and WinDoze one does.

Any ideas or suggestions????

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Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Nov 20 13:02:55 GMT 2000
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: jkh@bento.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: CPU: Pentium Pro (189.75-MHz 686-class CPU)
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x619  Stepping = 9
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: Features=0xfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV>
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: real memory  = 134217728 (131072K bytes)
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: avail memory = 126390272 (123428K bytes)
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0436000.
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: md0: Malloc disk
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: pcib0: <Intel 82454KX/GX (Orion) host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: isab0: <Intel 82378IB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 0.0 on pci0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: atapci0: <CMD 646 ATA controller> port 0xfc00-0xfc0f,0x374-0x377,0x170-0x17f,0x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1ff irq 14 at device 1.0 on pci0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: ahc0: <Adaptec aic7880 Ultra SCSI adapter> port 0xf800-0xf8ff mem 0xfffdc000-0xfffdcfff irq 9 at device 2.0 on pci0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: ahc0: Using left over BIOS settings
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: aic7880: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: pci0: <Matrox MGA Millennium 2064W graphics accelerator> at 11.0 irq 10
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: fxp0: <Intel Pro 10/100B/100+ Ethernet> port 0xf400-0xf41f mem 0xffe00000-0xffefffff,0xfffcc000-0xfffccfff irq 10 at device 12.0 on pci0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: fxp0: Ethernet address 00:60:b0:57:55:4d
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: dc0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0xf000-0xf0ff mem 0xfffbc000-0xfffbc0ff irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: dc0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:f0:3e:47:fb
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: miibus0: <MII bus> on dc0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: ukphy0: <Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface> on miibus0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: ohci0: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> mem 0xfffac000-0xfffacfff irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: usb0: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> on ohci0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: uhub0: (unknown) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: chip0: <Intel 82453KX/GX (Orion) PCI memory controller> at device 20.0 on pci0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: kbd0 at atkbd0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: sio0: type 16550A
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: sio1: type 16550A
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: acd0: CDROM <HITACHI CDR-8130> at ata1-master using PIO4
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s2a
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: da0: <QUANTUM XP34550S LXY1> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
Jan 24 20:45:11 cfdns2 /kernel: da0: 4341MB (8890760 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4341C)
Jan 24 20:49:35 cfdns2 /kernel: cd9660: RockRidge Extension
Jan 24 21:17:18 cfdns2 /kernel: usb0: scheduling overrun
Jan 24 21:20:37 cfdns2 /kernel: usb0: scheduling overrun
Jan 24 21:39:49 cfdns2 /kernel: usb0: scheduling overrun
Jan 24 21:46:28 cfdns2 /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x1a - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x3
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: STACK == 0x1, 0xf8, 0x153, 0x17b
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: SXFRCTL0 == 0x80
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: SCB count = 40
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: QINFIFO entries: 
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: Waiting Queue entries: 
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: Disconnected Queue entries: 13:10 5:11 1:17 14:7 2:19 7:21 4:2 8:6 0:27 9:5 3:16 12:38 6:14 11:26 
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: QOUTFIFO entries: 
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: Sequencer Free SCB List: 15 10 
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: Pending list: 11 10 17 7 19 22 21 2 39 6 23 12 3 27 5 16 38 14 26 
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: Kernel Free SCB list: 0 9 13 4 15 24 29 25 8 28 20 37 1 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: sg[0] - Addr 0x4bd3000 : Length 4096
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: sg[1] - Addr 0x68d4000 : Length 2048
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queuing a BDR SCB
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Bus Device Reset Message Sent
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b
Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: ahc0: Bus Device Reset on A:0. 19 SCBs aborted
Jan 24 21:51:43 cfdns2 /kernel: usb0: scheduling overrun


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how do i configurate the bootmanager? a simple hint to the man-page should
be enough.

thx and have a nice weekend

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On 26 Jan 2001, at 11:21, Charlie Finan wrote:

> I'm getting 2 distinct errors in my system logs and on the console:
> 
> Jan 24 21:17:18 cfdns2 /kernel: usb0: scheduling overrun
> 
> and
> 
> a more worrysome one based on timeouts on the scsi disk:
> 

I don't know about the usb error, as I have never used an usb 
devices on a FreeBSD system before.  But I have seen the timed 
out errors that you are getting.  In my case it always came down to 
using an old SCSI that should've been retired long ago.  (Like the 
adaptec 1542B or the BT-757) Replacing the SCSI adapter always 
made the timed out errors go away.

Josh

> Jan 24 21:46:28 cfdns2 /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x1a - timed out
> while idle, SEQADDR == 0x3
> Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: STACK == 0x1, 0xf8, 0x153, 0x17b
> Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: SXFRCTL0 == 0x80
> Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: SCB count = 40
> Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: QINFIFO entries:
> Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: Waiting Queue entries:
> Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: Disconnected Queue entries: 13:10 5:11
> 1:17 14:7 2:19 7:21 4:2 8:6 0:27 9:5 3:16 12:38 6:14 11:26
> Jan 24 21:46:29 cfdns2 /kernel: QOUTFIFO entries:


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I would like to thank all of who helped me.
THNX :))))))))))

It seems that FreeBSD will work on Duron machine :)
Thanx again for all answers :))

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Norbert Kaufmann schrieb:
> 
> how do i configurate the bootmanager? a simple hint to the man-page should
> be enough.

The standard FreeBSD bootmanager autoconfigures itself.

HTH
-Christoph Sold


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I've recently been having random problems with two of my logs
(/var/log/maillog and /var/log/daemon.log) being empty after they are
rotated on my 4.1 system.  For example, nothing has been logged to
/var/log/maillog even though I'm sending and receiving messages.  This is
really odd because I haven't modified syslog.conf or newsyslog.conf in
months.  What's more bizarre is this will happen for a day, then be fine
for a few days, then happen again.  I've tried running newsyslog from the
command line and restarting syslogd.  Any ideas?

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John Heyer <john@snake.supranet.net> writes:

> I've recently been having random problems with two of my logs
> (/var/log/maillog and /var/log/daemon.log) being empty after they are
> rotated on my 4.1 system.  For example, nothing has been logged to
> /var/log/maillog even though I'm sending and receiving messages.  This is
> really odd because I haven't modified syslog.conf or newsyslog.conf in
> months.  What's more bizarre is this will happen for a day, then be fine
> for a few days, then happen again.  I've tried running newsyslog from the
> command line and restarting syslogd.  Any ideas?

Couple of things...

Make sure that syslogd is either HUPed or restarted after the logs are
rotated.

See if the rotated log (eg mail.old) is still having data written to
it. If so, then the syslog process probably needs either a HUP or a
SIGUSR1 signal sent to it.

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TODD WITTER schrieb:
> 
> Hi there.
> I have been wanting to install FreeBSD 4.1 on my computer but am
> a little confused with the fdisk portion of the install.
> Currently I have 2 windows partitions, C and D.

That's one primary partition in slice 0 and a logical partition in slice
1.

> When installing
> linux, they are labeled as /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda5.  When
> installing FBSD, I don't see my D partition listed, nor my current
> linux partitions.
> I would eventually like to have a triple boot system with windows
> still on C and D, Free BSD and Linux (debian).
> A)  Is this possible?

Yes.

> B)  Why does it look like FreeBSD's fdisk doesn't recognize the
> linux partitions?

Because they are probably installed as externded partition in slice 1.

> C)  If I'm willing to lose my current linux install, what is the best
> course of action to take?  (I'm also a bit concerned with losing that
> D partition in windows as I mentioned above.)

Backup. Install from start. Everything else should only done if
experienced enough. If experiencved enough, you would backup first...

HTH
-Christoph Sold


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Mike Thompson <mike.thomson@onlinecables.com> types:
> I used to appreciate Linux's efforts, as Linux was able to do what no
> other *nix could do, and that is to have mass appeal. Somehow Linux
> acquired this sexy, yet underdogish aura. Now, with public appeal comes
> two things, 1. resources (money, programmers, etc) and 2. the
> requirement of giving the public what it wants. Now the former is
> wonderful. The latter, however is what bugged me. Perhaps I am in the
> minority of liking my servers lean. Which was something Linux initially
> had going for it, but now... cool new features seem to have taken the
> front seat over performance, stability, and most obviously security. Why
> do they keep adding extra bells and whistles? Because you go down to
> your local software store, and you've got what? ~15 flavors of Linux?!

You know, I agree with you. That's why I distinguish between Linux
(the kernel) and "Linux distributions", which are the things you are
talking about. The Linux kernel is pretty much ok. It's not perfect,
but they are working on it - just like the FreeBSD kernel.

The distributions, on the other hand, cover a very wide spectrum. They
range from things that are every bit as obnoxious as Windows, to
things that are clean and reasonable. Having a wide choice of
distributions is a Good Thing.

> (there are two OSes in this world Windows and other.)

I think the two are actually Windows and Macs.

	<mike
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Krassimir Slavchev schrieb:
> 
> This is from /var/log/messages:
> 
> Jan 25 16:57:10 hostname Jan 25 16:57:10pppd[: Hangup (SIGHUP)
> Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[86697]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
> protocol 0xd
> Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[90208]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
> protocol 0xd
> Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[89915]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
> protocol 0xd
> Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[90127]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
> protocol 0xd
> Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[90180]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
> protocol 0xd
> Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[87759]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
> protocol 0xd
> Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[86720]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
> protocol 0xd
> ...

Win2k mumbo-jumbo?

Just my EUR .02
-Christoph Sold


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Subject: Which java - jdk1.2-beta or linux-java?
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Hi,

I have several questions about java for FreeBSD.

1.  I need to run java on my 4.2-RELEASE box.  The code 
came from W*****sNT using java2 or jdk1.3 Should I install 
jdk1.2-beta or linux-jdk?  

2.  I'm trying to use linux-netscape6 and the java virtual 
machine does not work.  Which mentioned install has the
best chance of working?

3.  Can jdk-1.1.8, jdk1.2-beta, and linux-jdk co-exist?

Many thanks for your help!
Doug


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This also happened to me while in the process of setting up natd.  You
should make sure all of the nat setting are correct, its probably that you
have firewall enabled in rc.conf, but not gateway, etc.   There is a good
howto for natd here that I found very helpful:
http://www.freebsd-howto.com/HOWTO/NAT-HOWTO

-Josh

On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Stephen Brandi wrote:

> 
> I have been having a problem that has been baffling me. I have a freebsd
> 4.1 machine running natd and a totally open firewall (temporarily). When I
> boot with kernel.GENERIC networking (local net and cable modem to
> internet) work fine, but no routing happens (as expected). When I boot
> with my custom kernel with options IPDIVERT and IPFIREWALL enabled, I am
> unable to use either network interface. I can't even ping localhost.
> I ran a diff on GENERIC and MYKERNEL and these were the only differences. 
> 
> Gateway, natd, and firewall are enabled in rc.conf   
> 
> Does anyone have an idea what could be causing my all networking to
> die with my firewall enabled kernel? I have gotten this working in the 
> past, but did a re-install at one point after a hardware failure. I feel
> like I'm forgetting something obvious.
> 
> Steve Brandi
> 
> 
> 
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Gentlemen, 

Where could I read about sysctl variables and its values with
explanations?

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ACCORDING TO rfc 1700 


     0                 Reserved                              [JBP]
     1     ICMP        Internet Control Message       [RFC792,JBP]
     2     IGMP        Internet Group Management     [RFC1112,JBP]
     3     GGP         Gateway-to-Gateway              [RFC823,MB]
     4     IP          IP in IP (encasulation)               [JBP]
     5     ST          Stream                 [RFC1190,IEN119,JWF]
     6     TCP         Transmission Control           [RFC793,JBP]
     7     UCL         UCL                                    [PK]
     8     EGP         Exterior Gateway Protocol     [RFC888,DLM1]
     9     IGP         any private interior gateway          [JBP]
    10     BBN-RCC-MON BBN RCC Monitoring                    [SGC]
    11     NVP-II      Network Voice Protocol         [RFC741,SC3]
    12     PUP         PUP                             [PUP,XEROX]
    13     ARGUS       ARGUS                                [RWS4]
    14     EMCON       EMCON                                 [BN7]
    15     XNET        Cross Net Debugger            [IEN158,JFH2]
    16     CHAOS       Chaos                                 [NC3]
    17     UDP         User Datagram                  [RFC768,JBP]


That is protocol 0xd  or 13 is a protocol called ARGUS

I have no idea what it is but you could check the RFC (www.ietf.org and
follow the links to RFC 1700) for references.


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To: Krassimir Slavchev
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Krassimir Slavchev schrieb:
> 
> This is from /var/log/messages:
> 
> Jan 25 16:57:10 hostname Jan 25 16:57:10pppd[: Hangup (SIGHUP)
> Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[86697]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
> protocol 0xd
> Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[90208]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
> protocol 0xd
> Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[89915]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
> protocol 0xd
> Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[90127]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
> protocol 0xd
> Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[90180]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
> protocol 0xd
> Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[87759]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
> protocol 0xd
> Jan 25 16:57:11 hostname pppd[86720]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported
> protocol 0xd
> ...

Win2k mumbo-jumbo?

Just my EUR .02
-Christoph Sold


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Any suggestions?  If this isn't the right list, where should I ask?

Gerald

On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> Is there a way to display options (v2 vs v3, TCP vs UDP) that are
> currently used for NFS mounts?
>
> `mount -v` does not provide this kind of information
>
>   vexpert:/var/mail on /var/mail (nfs)
>   vexpert:/files7 on /system (nfs)
>   vexpert:/files5 on /.amd_mnt/vexpert/files5 (nfs)
>
> nor do mount_nfs or amq.



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Hi,

I have a question about managing ports and packages.  When I
install a port, I can also see it when I run pkg_info.  So,
is it a port, or is it a package?

If I want to remove it, would I do a "pkg_delete" or 
"make deinstall"?

Regards,
Doug



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On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:34:53AM -0600, Doug Poland wrote:
> I have a question about managing ports and packages.  When I
> install a port, I can also see it when I run pkg_info.  So,
> is it a port, or is it a package?

A package is a pre-compiled port, and a port is registered into
the package system :-)

> If I want to remove it, would I do a "pkg_delete" or 
> "make deinstall"?

That depends. If you have cvsup-t the ports-tree you often see that
the version in the ports-tree is not the one you have installed.
In that case you can only remove it with pkg_delete. If it is still
the same version you can delete it with make deinstall.

If you look in the source of the makefiles in the ports-directory
(/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.ports.mk) and search for ^deinstall, you will
see that it does nothing more that calling pkg_delete...

Edwin

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I had the same problem till I changed the IPFW rule for DIVERT to show 100.
Below are all the IPFW rules that work for me.

00100 divert 8668 ip from any to any via ed0
00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0
00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
65000 allow ip from any to any
65535 deny ip from any to any


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>
> I have been having a problem that has been baffling me. I have a freebsd
> 4.1 machine running natd and a totally open firewall (temporarily). When I
> boot with kernel.GENERIC networking (local net and cable modem to
> internet) work fine, but no routing happens (as expected). When I boot
> with my custom kernel with options IPDIVERT and IPFIREWALL enabled, I am
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To: mavetju@chello.nl (Edwin Groothuis)
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Edwin Groothuis said...
> 
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:34:53AM -0600, Doug Poland wrote:
> > I have a question about managing ports and packages.  When I
> > install a port, I can also see it when I run pkg_info.  So,
> > is it a port, or is it a package?
> 
> A package is a pre-compiled port, and a port is registered into
> the package system :-)
>
okay...

> 
> > If I want to remove it, would I do a "pkg_delete" or 
> > "make deinstall"?
> 
> That depends. If you have cvsup-t the ports-tree you often see that
> the version in the ports-tree is not the one you have installed.
> In that case you can only remove it with pkg_delete. If it is still
> the same version you can delete it with make deinstall.
> 
> If you look in the source of the makefiles in the ports-directory
> (/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.ports.mk) and search for ^deinstall, you will
> see that it does nothing more that calling pkg_delete...
> 
I'm currently not updating ports with cvsup so I can do either.
Does a pkg_delete do a "make clean" as well?

Doug 


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Vitaly Semkin <freebsd@online.sinor.ru> types:
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 02:00:04PM +0300, Artem Koutchine wrote:
> > I've done it here. You need:
> >     1) ghostscript
> >     2) some russian fonts for ghost script
> > Play with the config files for ghostscript and printer daemon.
> > Now you can print postscript with russian. However, all russian
> > fonts that i found  for ghostcript are terrible and print from
> > Netscape looks really ugly (letters go over other letters, pictures,
> > borders etc). Don;t know about word processors for X.
> > 
> > ghostcript is in the ports and some filters are there too:
> > all the other parts you can get from
> > ftp://osiris.ipform.ru/pub/russian-p
> > 
> Is it possible to take gs fonts from Black Cat Linux distribution?
> They are very nice. Can I just copy the fonts directory or it won't 
> work?

You probably can't just copy the directory, but it probably can be
made to work. I use commercial MSDOS fonts on a pretty regular basis.
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On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:50:21AM -0600, Doug Poland wrote:
> > 
> > > If I want to remove it, would I do a "pkg_delete" or 
> > > "make deinstall"?
> > 
> > That depends. If you have cvsup-t the ports-tree you often see that
> > the version in the ports-tree is not the one you have installed.
> > In that case you can only remove it with pkg_delete. If it is still
> > the same version you can delete it with make deinstall.
> > 
> > If you look in the source of the makefiles in the ports-directory
> > (/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.ports.mk) and search for ^deinstall, you will
> > see that it does nothing more that calling pkg_delete...
> > 
> I'm currently not updating ports with cvsup so I can do either.
> Does a pkg_delete do a "make clean" as well?

No, "pkg_delete" only throws away the installed files, as does
"make deinstall" (only "make deinstall" should be called from the
proper directory while "pkg_delete" works everywhere). "make clean"
removes the source from the ports-directories, it does nothing with
installed ports.

Edwin

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Is

shutdown now

the only command needed to properly shutdown a bsd machine?

i find that if i do this and turn off the machine once in single user mode,
it comes back up with incorrect block counts.

What do i need to do to fully prepare the machine to be turned off.

i have been known to use

reboot

and wait until the bios screen comes up, but there's got to be a better way.

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shutdown -r now
then
halt
then turnoff the box
but why would anyone turn off a BSD box? :)

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> Is
>
> shutdown now
>
> the only command needed to properly shutdown a bsd machine?
>
> i find that if i do this and turn off the machine once in single
user mode,
> it comes back up with incorrect block counts.
>
> What do i need to do to fully prepare the machine to be turned off.
>
> i have been known to use
>
> reboot
>
> and wait until the bios screen comes up, but there's got to be a
better way.
>
> Peter Brezny
> SysAdmin Services Inc.
>
>
>
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In the last episode (Jan 26), Peter Brezny said:
> shutdown now
> 
> the only command needed to properly shutdown a bsd machine?
> 
> i find that if i do this and turn off the machine once in single user
> mode, it comes back up with incorrect block counts.
> 
> What do i need to do to fully prepare the machine to be turned off.

"shutdown now" simply brings the system into single-user mode.  The
filesystems are still mounted read-write at this point.  Try "shutdown
-h now" to halt the system or "shutdown -p now" to power the system
off.  See the shutdown manpage for more options.

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On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Peter Brezny wrote:

> What do i need to do to fully prepare the machine to be turned off.

halt

G

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shutdown -h now

shutdown sans the halt just kills all the daemons
robert

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%i find that if i do this and turn off the machine once in 
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I posted this one to the freebsd-net list about 4 hours ago and haven't
received many responses.

any ideas, I'm stumped.

Peter Brezny
SysAdmin Services Inc.


I recently revamped a lot of my zone files, consolidating several into
generic files since many of our domains have mail, dns, and web hosting on
the same servers.  This works fine on the primary server, substituting an @
symbol in the zone file for the origin of the zone listed in the .conf file.
However, on the secondary  The origin in the zone file is being hard coded
to what ever the server looked up first, which of course wrecks the
information for any subsequent zone that uses the same default zone file.

example:
on the primary
@		in	soa	etc...

		in	ns	ns1.domain.com
		in	a	ip.of.domain.com
mail		in	a	ip.of.mail.com


The secondary reports this:
$ORIGIN org.	in	soa	etc...

		in	ns	ns1.domain.com
		in	a	ip.of.domain.com
$ORIGIN first.domain.that.got.looked.up
mail		in	a	ip.of.mail.com

Is there a way to get around this?

my primary server is running bind 8.2.3-T6b and the slave server is running
bind 8.1.2

Thanks in advance for your help.

Peter Brezny
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Fri Jan 26 10:33:13 2001
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Although we still haven't fixed the problem, I think we've narrowed it 
down.  Some of the original messages are included below.  Basically, we're 
trying to install FreeBSD 4.1 or 4.2 onto a machine with three IBM 32GB 
drives.  After the installation and reboot, we get one of two error messages:

1.  If we chose "dangerously dedicated", we get the "No /boot/loader" 
message (full text included at the end of this message)

2.  If we chose true partition, we get "Missing Operating System"

After doing some additional reading, I found in the FreeBSD FAQ that this 
is probably a problem with the disk geometry, that the BIOS and FreeBSD 
don't agree on it.  So in the BIOS, we set all the drives to LBA and the 
disk geometry is:

C/H/S
4160/255/63

and FreeBSD sees the disks as:          4160/255/63.

We do the install, and still the same error messages.  When we're asked 
about the boot loader, we always do a Standard MBR.  I have tried the Boot 
Loader but still the same errors.  We are able to bootup and mount the 
disks, and we see that all the files are being copied to the 
drives.  Another piece of information, we have another machine configured 
EXACTLY the same way, but running Red Hat Linux 6.2, there was no problem 
installing it, and here's what it says in dmesg:

hda: IBM-DPTA-373420, 32634MB w/1961kB Cache, CHS=4160/255/63
hdb: IBM-DPTA-373420, 32634MB w/1961kB Cache, CHS=4160/255/63
hdc: IBM-DPTA-373420, 32634MB w/1961kB Cache, CHS=4160/255/63

I would really prefer to stick with FreeBSD on this machine.  At this 
point, I'm at a dead end.  I've tried the suggestions from here.


Oscar


At 02:42 PM 1/23/01 -0600, Oscar Ricardo Silva, you wrote:
>In an answer to a reply:  this machine is about 6 months old.  The BIOS 
>successfully recognizes the size of the large drives.
>
>In the FDISK portion of the install, I had been selecting "A" to use the 
>entire disk and then "N" to accept dangerously dedicated,  but that wasn't 
>working.  I've been doing some additional reading and apparently, the new 
>boot0 won't work with "dangerously dedicated".  This is according to John 
>Baldwin in:
>
><http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=86312+90941+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/freebsd-stable/20000730.freebsd-stable>
>
>So in another attempted install, I still chose "A" to use the entire disk, 
>but this time selected "YES", for a true partition entry, and also set 
>that partition as bootable.  In the next section, I was asked to install a 
>Boot Manager for the drive and I selecte "S" to install a Standard MBR (no 
>boot manager).  The machine may have three drives, but there will only be 
>one operating system so I don't see a need for a Boot Manager, just the 
>standard MBR.  I then created my partitions on ad0 in the following manner:
>
>ad0s1a  /       2000MB
>ad0s1b  swap    512MB
>ad0s1e  /var    10000MB
>ad0s1f          /usr    20500MB
>
>I then selected which Distribution I wanted to install, and I selected 
>"ALL".  After this I went through the post-installation configuration and 
>that finished.
>
>This time, when I rebooted the machine I get a different message:
>
>         "Missing Operating System"
>
>Not sure what I need to do now.  I've followed the different install 
>methods suggested in the mail archives as well as on this list.
>
>As before, any information or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>
>
>Oscar
>
>
>The drives are all 32GB and all on the ATA-33 bus.  I have tried installing
>>FreeBSD 4.1 and 4.2 but each time, when the machine boots after the
>>install, I get a prompt:
>>
>>No /boot/loader
>>
>>  >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
>>Default:  0:ad(0,a)/kernel
>>boot:
>>No /kernel
>>
>>  >>FreeBSD/i386  BOOT
>>Default:  0:ad(0,a)/kernel
>>boot:



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I have a friend that has 4.0 and wants to upgrade.  She's only on
dialup so cvsup'ing would take a long time.  I can burn the ISO for
4.2.. is there any way she could use this to upgrade her system
without doing a full clean install?

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On Thursday 25 January 2001 21:04, Jason Halbert wrote:
> I have a friend that has 4.0 and wants to upgrade.  She's only on
> dialup so cvsup'ing would take a long time.  I can burn the ISO for
> 4.2.. is there any way she could use this to upgrade her system
> without doing a full clean install?

I recently updated a friend's box to 4.2. I just burned a copy of /usr/src, 
copied it to his machine and did a make buildworld. Worked fine.
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Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> 
> > I upgraded from 3-STABLE as well :-/
> >
> Groff 1.15 (which added the -U flag) was imported after 3.4-RELEASE.
> 
> cvs di -rRELENG_3_4_0_RELEASE -rRELENG_3_5_0_RELEASE src/contrib/groff/groff/groff.cc

Ah, yes. I probably came from 3.5. I assume we didn't use the -U flag
then and only start using it now.

BTW: Feel free to check the changes in.

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On Friday 26 January 2001 09:43, Beech Rintoul wrote:
> On Thursday 25 January 2001 21:04, Jason Halbert wrote:
> > I have a friend that has 4.0 and wants to upgrade.  She's only on
> > dialup so cvsup'ing would take a long time.  I can burn the ISO for
> > 4.2.. is there any way she could use this to upgrade her system
> > without doing a full clean install?
>
> I recently updated a friend's box to 4.2. I just burned a copy of /usr/src,
> copied it to his machine and did a make buildworld. Worked fine.
 
I forgot to add you also need to do a make installworld, plus a make 
buildkernel / make installkernel.

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Hmm.. using compressed transfer i remember
cvsupping from 2.2.8 to 3.4 in 2 or 3 hours on
28.8 kbps line. I really think she should do cvsup
with compression turned on. 

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> I have a friend that has 4.0 and wants to upgrade.  She's only on
> dialup so cvsup'ing would take a long time.  I can burn the ISO for
> 4.2.. is there any way she could use this to upgrade her system
> without doing a full clean install?
> 
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Dear Sir:

Where is the Rage 128 driver located?

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Fri Jan 26 10:55:23 2001
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it is in 3.3.6 and above under the ati 64 section...
if you try to install it, you will be told if you lack the driver, and
where to find it.
robert

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Hello Assad,

Thursday, January 25, 2001, 9:16:54 PM, you wrote:

AK> Hi,

AK>     I have been seeing a FreeBSD-VS-Linux war on this mailing list and it has
AK> disturbed me beyond tolerance. Which drove me to write this e-mail.

I was not interested in this discussion, and i wanted to filter
everything about it because it is (for me) a very non-important topic.

I went from Linux to FreeBSD, and I have to say that FreeBSD is my
solution, and it is very very great.

AK>  First I want to tell everyone that I love everything thats opensource and
AK> free, that includes FreeBSD,Linux,OpenBSD and NetBSD. But my most loved OS is
AK> Linux for the following reasons.

[snip]
...

I do not compare who has developed what, and who done this, and who is
doing that, and who stole source from a or b.

AK> of kernel 2.4.0 for Linux, its now an official gladiator in the arena of
AK> Enterprise computing (although it is already running one of the most heavily
AK> visited sites namely google.com,freshmeat.net...). Microsoft hates Linux's
AK> guts while it seems to embrace the BSD's, for this reason alone is Linux worth
AK> using!

There is no argument to me anywhere why I should use linux.

I tell you why I like FreeBSD:

1. The quality of the source is very great and clear. There are no
script kiddies writing extensions what are not needed in reality.

2. The kind of developing, how everything is organised and the thing
that we normal people can see how it is being better and better every day is very
interesting.

3. FreeBSD is very stable and secure, and it really works on heavily
loaded engines very well. I have tried it out by myself. I was very
surprised.

4. I donĀ“t like RPM files (*ggggggg)

5. The FreeBSD mailinglists are very informative and the people here
are very helpful. I have never seen something before.

6. I have learned how to code very stable programs. Now I know what QS
really means, and how to write stable code. It is the first time that
I could look into such a big project like freebsd, and I have learned
a lot about software design in general.

Until now you can see the only thing i am looking for and the most
important thing to decide what OS to use is for me the following:

- The people. I went to FreeBSD because the people here are very high
skilled and the niveau is very high.

- The code. I have learned how to write better